Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2279678]It's worth pointing out that a Samsung J3 used, goes for 100-200 k in Medellin. You're bartering a $60 phone for $30 pussy. And you're paying cab fare on top of that.[/QUOTE]Then if you fuck the same chick twice do you give her another phone or what? One of the failures of a bartering system is that what either party is bargaining with may be worth more or less than what they are getting in return. That is why people came up with money, so they can adjust the "price" of the trade. Plus as I said before you can travel with it easier.

People are known for stealing out of bags when going to and from Latin America. That is why you see those plastic wrapping places. Then you end up paying for more luggage because you are bringing a bunch of shit. Then you end up running afoul of Customs when they see you with 10 phones. Why not keep it simple?

Hi guys,

I am glad a sparked a conversation but I think my original words might have been misinterpreted. I will try to reply individually to everyone who was kind enough to weigh in.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2279409]This is all part of doing your own thing. Somewhere out there there's a guy who brings along a complete Mrs. Doubtfire costume for girls to wear, because that's his thing. Guys bring shoes or pantyhose, or lingerie, or bondage gear. It's whatever they need to get the most enjoyment out of their sessions.

You bring toys to use, but it's not really for the girls. It's part of what you enjoy. I understand. You get more pleasure when they get more pleasure. These aren't gifts or barter items, they're part of the person's desires. It all fits in with trying to normalize the encounter. Note that "normal" varies from person to person.

I do gifts differently. If I had a great time, which requires more than good sex, then I might invite her back for something longer. Maybe a shopping trip to buy her something to wear and not just something for my enjoyment. Maybe dinner and a movie, or something nice for her kids. My reasoning is, if I give her something to convince her to show me the best time, then I'm committed to that routine with her every time, and she'll start to expect it from others. But, if she gives me her best without expecting a bonus, then a reward might be in order.[/QUOTE]I agree 100% with what you've said. I bring toys because this is what gets me off. I do not do it because I'm under some sort of delusion that by doing that I'm somehow less of a monger. The girl's pleasure is there purely to enhance mine and not to make me feel better. I am one of those guys who isn't really able to get into it if the girl isn't a bit too. It seems to me that you are by far a much better person in the sense you actually care about their personal lives and don't mind improving them within reason. I simply don't have that level of empathy. I will always respect the girls and be a gentleman with them because that is how I was brought up but I will not get involved enough to do any of the above. I have enough drama and "real" dates back at home that I wouldn't appreciate a watered down Colombian version. Also I don't care.

[QUOTE=Combo;2279518]How do you know the local guys are selfish?[/QUOTE]Because quite a few (if not the majority) girls have told me so. And trust me, they weren't trying to flatter me or anything. Quite a few said it in a derogatory way as something almost less manly. Maybe it's just a direct result of where these girls come from. I doubt there is much room for romance and similar stuff when your first worry when you wake up is how you're going to feed yourself and your family. Perhaps girls of a higher social extraction (and perhaps more westernized) are different. To be clear I'm talking about whatever novio they're banging on the side not local punters.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2279523]The local guys are there to pay to fuck and cum. Foreigners are there to pay to try to please the hooker by making her cum and showering her with gifts and tips.[/QUOTE]How nice it must be to have all the answers. If your idea of a good time is to get a girl in a room and come as quickly as possible, then that's your choice. No need to be sarcastic. Using a dildo in a session doesn't equal to showering a girl with gifts and trips. Maybe you were talking in a more general sense but I assure you that's not what I (or any seasoned monger for that matter) do.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2279553]Very good question. But who even cares what the locals do? Culturally, the chicas and chicos know their roles.

My general impression is that the chicas are content when they've made you cum and you walk away happy. If you want extras, you negotiate that into the price of the service most of the time. As far as trying to figure out what is in their head, I don't bother. These girls do this for a living so I don't know if they are acting or serious unless they really let me know by doing something unusual. After all, in the casas, at least, it's like an assembly line. I love new pussy but if I find one or two in a casa that give me exceptional service that is what is important to me.[/QUOTE]Very true. Who cares what the locals do. I say live and let live. There are clearly very different personalities and way to approach mongering. As long as we can all agree on not pushing the rates up, everyone should be able to do whatever they prefer without feeling judged.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2279678]It's worth pointing out that a Samsung J3 used, goes for 100-200 k in Medellin. You're bartering a $60 phone for $30 pussy. And you're paying cab fare on top of that.[/QUOTE]For the board, I never once mentioned how long the girl stays for the phone, plus, I am always into business. If I only pay $50 us for a J3 (which I frequently do) & I keep the girl for 6 to 8 hours, do I look like a fool afterwards? Many mongers forget its up to them to set the terms of the deal that they are negotiating. A cell phone is the most valuable item a girl in Medellin can have. You'd be surprised at how many girls I have given phones to, even after a year in medellin, these girls still have these phones on & communicate with me daily, same number & all. I fully understand if you're a "casa guy! " the phone is a horrible trade (JjBee) but rarely do I ever take a girl & not keep her all day. That's just my tactic. Thanks to you Mr. E, I have tightened up my mongering game and see it for what it is, they are doing a job & we are paying, therefore I want work to be done & completed to my satisfaction or no second "Cita! " When I hit any of the clubs or Vera Cruz in Centro, the girls are klinging on me for a date, but you better best believe I obtain everything I want from the deal before bringing the girl back to my room. Not one date have I had in over a year, do I not have photos, videos, & all 3 holes, or no more "Cita! ". I took a big note from you Mr. E, these girls are not making a guaranteed $300-$500 mil pesos daily in Veracruz & centro. So if I'm guaranteeing that amount, I get what I desire out of the deal. To each their own, but I love when guys post about these girls & the girls feelings, and why the sell themselves, its not my concern. They never offer money back & always seem to be broke the next day. Figure that bullsht out? We both get opportunities in the deal, what they are? Are things we both feel we need at the time! Pollonegro is out!

[QUOTE=Baudelairemod;2279979]Maybe it's just a direct result of where these girls come from. I doubt there is much room for romance and similar stuff when your first worry when you wake up is how you're going to feed yourself and your family.[/QUOTE]This kind of thing is said in the Dominican Republic thread too. I have yet to see a starving Dominicnan or Colombian. Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos are probably saying the same about us.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2280003]This kind of thing is said in the Dominican Republic thread too. I have yet to see a starving Dominicnan or Colombian. Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos are probably saying the same about us.[/QUOTE]My bad, man. I guess they must be doing it for the love of the dick. Such charitable souls!

[QUOTE=Baudelairemod;2280048]My bad, man. I guess they must be doing it for the love of the dick. Such charitable souls![/QUOTE]No. They do it because it is fast easy money. For some reason a lot of mongers see it as these women are about to starve and have no other choice. To that I say bullshit.

I am in Rio right now with a girl I have known for a couple of years that cleans hotel rooms for a living. Best job? Probably not. But she is not making excuses in order to prostitute herself. As much as I love hookers, I am not fooled into thinking they have no other choice.

A lot of Venezuelans are abroad because their country is fucked up. There are a lot of Venezuelan chicks horing themselves. But I know one Venezuelan chick in Lima that was an engineer in her country but does nails in Peru. I know another that works in an optical shop. I know another that works in a restaurant. Etc. There IS a choice.

I will consider mongers to be charitable souls when they start giving these poor girls money without fucking them. Just walk up to the projects and pass money out if you feel that bad for them.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2280064]No. They do it because it is fast easy money. For some reason a lot of mongers see it as these women are about to starve and have no other choice. To that I say bullshit.

I am in Rio right now with a girl I have known for a couple of years that cleans hotel rooms for a living. Best job? Probably not. But she is not making excuses in order to prostitute herself. As much as I love hookers, I am not fooled into thinking they have no other choice.

A lot of Venezuelans are abroad because their country is fucked up. There are a lot of Venezuelan chicks horing themselves. But I know one Venezuelan chick in Lima that was an engineer in her country but does nails in Peru. I know another that works in an optical shop. I know another that works in a restaurant. Etc. There IS a choice.

I will consider mongers to be charitable souls when they start giving these poor girls money without fucking them. Just walk up to the projects and pass money out if you feel that bad for them.[/QUOTE]Ha I think you've misunderstood me! I don't feel bad about them. I thank geopolitical and global financial inequality every day. Only way we can fuck these gorgeous women and spend so little in the process. But I do get your point that there are other options out there. "Starving" was perhaps a touch too much.

Excellent casa session today. I was walking around downtown and saw a spot that had the casa MO or look so I rang the bell to see and it turned out to be a casa with about 8 girls. Took a spinner. Wanted 25,000 tip for BBBJ. Good head job, licked balls, etc. Pussy was nice and tight. Busted my nutt and kept fucking for about another 10 minutes after I came. This place charged me 45,000 after the deed was done. So in total, it cost me $70,000 for BBBJ and a good fuck.

To many it may seemed cold hearted or uncaring, but let me assure you that I have spent weeks with the same girls over and over and they have made sometimes $300,000 pesos a day off of me. Meaning in a week they have earned over $2,100,000 pesos off of me, and on the 8th day, guess what? They were asking for another "Cita" for a sick baby, sick mom, sick cousin, it's all a game. I don't have to care about why you sell your body especially when I know that the average income is $800,000 pesos a month and you blow through 2 million in one week and ask for more. If I bang your brains out and plug all 3 holes, why should I be concerned about why you got into this business? It's not my concern, I don't ask the girls how they spend the money I pay them, so why should I be concerned with why they entered into this business? Spend your money how you choose, treat the girls how you choose, but don't impose your gullible style on others, if it works for you, fine, but don't expect me to rationalize with why these girls do this type of work. Let me be the first to tell you, I have lost far more money being nice than I have when holding people accountable. One thing about me is this, I will only see girls through other girls, meaning, even if she is knew, she knows what to expect, because the last girl will tell her what I like and what I expect during our "Cita!" You have to be in a fairy tale if you do not think these girls do not know each other and talk to each other. Imagine that I have spent $2-$3 million pesos a week with one or two girls, you better best to believe that they have told their friends how much they made, then the friend wants in as well. Same process the media uses to entice the less fortunate into believing that they need that "$500" pair of sneakers. Trust me, it works. When I see guys post about not getting BBBJs or paying extra for that, trust me, find the right girls, spend the right amount and you will get what you want in Medellin. Spend $13 dollars for a quickie and that's exactly what you get, a quickie. I usually get everything on the board and then some, I don't mind spending extra to get what I want, but I'm never asking a girl why does she sell her body, my statement is "Just sell it to me sometimes! LOL, Pollonegro is out.

Terrific report, speaking for the membership, we are happy you got your balls licked. With all due respect an address would make your report worth the time it takes to read it. Without that, it's of little use to anyone.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2280084]Excellent casa session today. I was walking around downtown and saw a spot that had the casa MO or look so I rang the bell to see and it turned out to be a casa with about 8 girls. Took a spinner. Wanted 25,000 tip for BBBJ. Good head job, licked balls, etc. Pussy was nice and tight. Busted my nutt and kept fucking for about another 10 minutes after I came. This place charged me 45,000 after the deed was done. So in total, it cost me $70,000 for BBBJ and a good fuck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2280084]Excellent casa session today. I was walking around downtown and saw a spot that had the casa MO or look so I rang the bell to see and it turned out to be a casa with about 8 girls. Took a spinner. Wanted 25,000 tip for BBBJ. Good head job, licked balls, etc. Pussy was nice and tight. Busted my nutt and kept fucking for about another 10 minutes after I came. This place charged me 45,000 after the deed was done. So in total, it cost me $70,000 for BBBJ and a good fuck.[/QUOTE]Do you remember the address?

Been doing lots of casas. My plan is to do all the reported ones and unreported as well whenever I can get valuable info on them such as an address. Decided to check out Tantra for the first time. It has been favorably reported on here before and I do believe it was not in existence during my previous trip to Medellin in 2017. I was indeed disappointed by the line up. Only 6 girls were presented to me and not the quality that I expected based on the reports. I chose Juliana, a 7 in my estimation, who was good enough but did have some baby damage, apparently recent. The facilities I would say are on par with that of Energy. COP 130 for the hour. Do not let me discourage punters from visiting this casa for tastes differ and mongers may disagree with my rating of the women and also I may just have gone on a bad day or, indeed, the better chicas may have been servicing clients. I do not know how many rooms there are nor did I encounter any other customers. Juliana did tell me that the place is frequented by many foreigners. Did I say the facilities are great?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2280064]No. They do it because it is fast easy money. For some reason a lot of mongers see it as these women are about to starve and have no other choice. To that I say bullshit.
[/QUOTE]The experienced ones always have a story: son needs an operation, I lost my job and debt payments are due. Only they were saying that three years ago as well. The son got an operation. The debts were paid. Now the same story is used to continue earning extra cash.

You'll find they are either very savvy and investing this money or too lazy to work a normal job.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2280064]No. They do it because it is fast easy money. For some reason a lot of mongers see it as these women are about to starve and have no other choice. To that I say bullshit. [/QUOTE]This is true.

Colombia is not a desert land with a famine outbreak. Anywhere where there local business running, there will be enough to sustain yourself and put food on the plate. But is it as well paid as horing? To me most hookers are just lazy gold diggers, just make sure you don't go broke first. IF you really want to help poor people then google "kids dying of hunger in Yemen" and help, now that's really being generous.

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2280135]This is true.

Colombia is not a desert land with a famine outbreak. Anywhere where there local business running, there will be enough to sustain yourself and put food on the plate. But is it as well paid as horing? To me most hookers are just lazy gold diggers, just make sure you don't go broke first. IF you really want to help poor people then google "kids dying of hunger in Yemen" and help, now that's really being generous.[/QUOTE]You have a choice between making 700 k a month doing a "normal" job or making that in a few sessions. I'm not sure most of us, at least when we were 20 years old, wouldn't make the same decision.