Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2282017]Why is Uber safer for her? The driver is a stranger and less accountable than a cab driver.

Normally I do not have a security guard at my apartments. So, I often request a girl I do not know well to take a yellow taxi because I don't know if her Uber driver is a friend who could be casing my location, an accomplice, or something other.[/QUOTE]Makes no sense at all. First you say the Uber driver is a stranger, then you say the Uber driver might be her friend. Wouldn't it be more likely that the taxi driver is a friend? When you press the button on Uber a random person picks up the trip and the trip and driver are documented in your Uber record. Anybody can call a friend that is a taxi driver and all you saw was a yellow car. The taxi driver can just as well call another friend to stake out your location or go get an unmarked car and do it himself.

There is a lot of paranoia going on in these Colombia threads. I am not saying not to play it safe but geez. You got one guy in the Bogota thread worrying about being kidnapped and another afraid to walk outside and get into a taxi on arrival at the airport. What is it about Colombia that sparks these thoughts and fears? In over 100 trips to Colombia in 15 years I have never had any of the worries that guys come on this board having; not even my first few times there.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2282026]Makes no sense at all. First you say the Uber driver is a stranger, then you say the Uber driver might be her friend. Wouldn't it be more likely that the taxi driver is a friend? When you press the button on Uber a random person picks up the trip and the trip and driver are documented in your Uber record. Anybody can call a friend that is a taxi driver and all you saw was a yellow car. The taxi driver can just as well call another friend to stake out your location or go get an unmarked car and do it himself.

There is a lot of paranoia going on in these Colombia threads. I am not saying not to play it safe but geez. You got one guy in the Bogota thread worrying about being kidnapped and another afraid to walk outside and get into a taxi on arrival at the airport. What is it about Colombia that sparks these thoughts and fears? In over 100 trips to Colombia in 15 years I have never had any of the worries that guys come on this board having; not even my first few times there.[/QUOTE]They are stuck in the 90's, when Medellin was the most dangerous city in the world at 225 homicides per 100,000 people, now around 20 which is safer then the Bahamas or Jamaica or St. Louis, Baltimore, New Orleans and Detroit.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2282026]Makes no sense at all. First you say the Uber driver is a stranger, then you say the Uber driver might be her friend. [/QUOTE]To be clear, Uber is a personal vehicle so I would not know. The Uber driver of course is a stranger to me- that is what I meant. I would prefer not to flag my location to someone driving their personal vehicle.

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Wouldn't it be more likely that the taxi driver is a friend? [/QUOTE]Some girls claim to have friends that drive them but not likely in a taxi because that would require the driver of a yellow taxi to be on duty and available when she needed the ride to or from. That's not likely.

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When you press the button on Uber a random person picks up the trip and the trip and driver are documented in your Uber record. Anybody can call a friend that is a taxi driver and all you saw was a yellow car. The taxi driver can just as well call another friend to stake out your location or go get an unmarked car and do it himself.[/QUOTE]But if I am not the one that calls for the Uber I have to take her word for it and I have no record.

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There is a lot of paranoia going on in these Colombia threads. I am not saying not to play it safe but geez. You got one guy in the Bogota thread worrying about being kidnapped and another afraid to walk outside and get into a taxi on arrival at the airport. What is it about Colombia that sparks these thoughts and fears? In over 100 trips to Colombia in 15 years I have never had any of the worries that guys come on this board having; not even my first few times there.[/QUOTE]It's about limiting exposure over time. I use apps that call yellow taxis and it works just fine, even if more expensive. I know girls buddy up and talk with Uber drivers. I prefer yellow taxis.

Recently I returned from the shower to find a date had already called a friend or Uber to pick her up so too late for me to call a taxi. She went outside to wait and maybe 10 minutes later as I was leaving my apartment she was still there. She explained the driver was on his way and giving her a ride to Bello for free. I asked why and she shrugged but apparently he offered and wanted to drive her from Laureles to Bello. It was odd. Maybe she sent a foto and because she was pretty he thought there could be something in it for him, I don't know. But it was unusual if not sketchy. Perhaps it was a friend who had been waiting close by. I don't know. I checked my door locks and bolted. A yellow taxi would never do that, but a friend or a creepy Uber driver would.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2282039]But if I am not the one that calls for the Uber I have to take her word for it and I have no record. [/QUOTE]So if a chick tells you she will have a friend drop her off you would protest and insist she take a taxi? Sorry I am just not following. After all, the girl knows where you are staying and she could just send a message or call and tell someone. They would not have to arrive with her or be the one to come pick her up in order for you to be setup or whatever. For that not to happen, you would have to go get her yourself and take her phone and put a blindfold on her until you get inside.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2282039]I would prefer not to flag my location to someone driving their personal vehicle.
[/QUOTE]So what will prevent the girl to just text your address or share location to her friend?

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2281901]How do you operate Centro! .[/QUOTE]What I do is (I stay at the Botero 2 blocks from the redlight blocks) after breakfast I walk thru the Vera Cruz block and the Raudal block and see what's out, usually alone.

Dress like you are going to Home Depot to pick up some lumber, (no shorts / sandals) if you have light colored hair wear a ball cap, don't take more cash then you need, carry a photocopy of your passport and leave the real thing in your room or with the front desk, keep your phone in your pocket and don't stand around, only stop to talk to a girl, don't go after 5 pm when the locals are off work and starting to get drunk. I usually walk through 3 or 4 times a day, if you find one you want, ask her how much to play, the Vera Cruz ones should be in the 30 k range plus room (not sure how much for the room, I always hand them 50 k and tell them to keep the change as a tip) and the hotter Raudal chicks 60-80 k room incld. They will walk you a few feet to the stairs up to a short term hotel, I've been in 4 or 5, nice enough, showers, clean sheets, some have porno TV. I give them the money at the front desk so they can pay and bring my own condoms. Just because you saw nobody hot on the 1st trip doesn't mean they won't be there on the next walk thru, it is hit or miss.

Vera Cruz is the block behind the old white Iglesia de la Veracruz (construction started in 1682). You want Carr 53 between Calle 51 and 52 both side of the street. Some bars along there you can go in for a beer. Ignore most the ones up front by the church, the trannies hang out there. If they look young ask to see their Cedula (ID). If you see nada, walk 2 blocks over to the Raudal area, basically the 2 northern corners of Calle 53 / Carr 54. Less women but usually some hotter ones. I find that block a little sketchier, esp as it gets later.

Remember, she has to only be $10-$20 hot.

After dark I switch to the Centro big 3 strip clubs (Conejitas, Barra Ejectiva & Maracaibo) with occasional taxis to Fase II. That is all I hit in Medellin, not a Casa fan or Escort fan due to no time to check attitude and possibly old or touched up pictures), will hit some FB friends who are super hot on my next trip most likely also.

I have to say its a very bad idea to pay first for any girls in Colombia. Mongers of course are free to do whatever they want. But even mentioning that or tipping, word gets around to newbie mongers trying to emulate and before you know it the place is overpriced, and the service and attitudes go in the shtter.

[QUOTE=Bill;2282102]I have to say its a very bad idea to pay first for any girls in Colombia. Mongers of course are free to do whatever they want. But even mentioning that or tipping, word gets around to newbie mongers trying to emulate and before you know it the place is overpriced, and the service and attitudes go in the shtter.[/QUOTE]New Life is one of the few casas in which you pay after. However, the service there is not as good as many other casas where you pay before. New Life is the only casa I have been to during this visit where I have encountered American mongers. New Life is the only casa in which I have been asked for a propina. Do the math.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2282066]What I do is (I stay at the Botero 2 blocks from the redlight blocks) after breakfast I walk thru the Vera Cruz block and the Raudal block and see what's out, usually alone.

Dress like you are going to Home Depot to pick up some lumber, (no shorts / sandals) if you have light colored hair wear a ball cap, don't take more cash then you need, carry a photocopy of your passport and leave the real thing in your room or with the front desk, keep your phone in your pocket and don't stand around, only stop to talk to a girl, don't go after 5 pm when the locals are off work and starting to get drunk. I usually walk through 3 or 4 times a day, if you find one you want, ask her how much to play, the Vera Cruz ones should be in the 30 k range plus room (not sure how much for the room, I always hand them 50 k and tell them to keep the change as a tip) and the hotter Raudal chicks 60-80 k room incld. They will walk you a few feet to the stairs up to a short term hotel, I've been in 4 or 5, nice enough, showers, clean sheets, some have porno TV. I give them the money at the front desk so they can pay and bring my own condoms. Just because you saw nobody hot on the 1st trip doesn't mean they won't be there on the next walk thru, it is hit or miss.

Vera Cruz is the block behind the old white Iglesia de la Veracruz (construction started in 1682). You want Carr 53 between Calle 51 and 52 both side of the street. Some bars along there you can go in for a beer. Ignore most the ones up front by the church, the trannies hang out there. If they look young ask to see their Cedula (ID). If you see nada, walk 2 blocks over to the Raudal area, basically the 2 northern corners of Calle 53 / Carr 54. Less women but usually some hotter ones. I find that block a little sketchier, esp as it gets later.

Remember, she has to only be $10-$20 hot.

After dark I switch to the Centro big 3 strip clubs (Conejitas, Barra Ejectiva & Maracaibo) with occasional taxis to Fase II. That is all I hit in Medellin, not a Casa fan or Escort fan due to no time to check attitude and possibly old or touched up pictures), will hit some FB friends who are super hot on my next trip most likely also.[/QUOTE]Perfectly said, in the past almost 2 years now since frequenting the Vera and Raudal streets (and don't forget to check out the paseo at Botero plaza area) I have spent too much time than I care to admit and beside for siting in some of the bars and drinking / flirting and just having fun I have trolled these areas numerous times at day and night on my motorcycle, in my car and walking the streets, note 99% of the time with my trusted colombian buddy, we love the chase and damn must admit have found some real fun times.

I am almost all but done with the higher end clubs (ie Fase Dos and La Isla) and only will go with a group of guys who must check it out, same with the casas, same with majorista, same with FB chicas and Tinder and the cupid girls, etc. Etc. And now my wallet thanks me as I spend a fraction of what I use to and I could argue that I have more fun. With friends I still will hang with a buddy in a lower end club such as Barra Executiva or maricaibo or the playboy or the like and from time to time will take a girl out.

To each his own, what ever floats your boat guys. Just have fun.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2282026]Makes no sense at all. First you say the Uber driver is a stranger, then you say the Uber driver might be her friend. Wouldn't it be more likely that the taxi driver is a friend? When you press the button on Uber a random person picks up the trip and the trip and driver are documented in your Uber record. Anybody can call a friend that is a taxi driver and all you saw was a yellow car. The taxi driver can just as well call another friend to stake out your location or go get an unmarked car and do it himself.

There is a lot of paranoia going on in these Colombia threads. I am not saying not to play it safe but geez. You got one guy in the Bogota thread worrying about being kidnapped and another afraid to walk outside and get into a taxi on arrival at the airport. What is it about Colombia that sparks these thoughts and fears? In over 100 trips to Colombia in 15 years I have never had any of the worries that guys come on this board having; not even my first few times there.[/QUOTE]To keep all the diamonds for yourself? Stoke fear in the hearts of New mongers. Everyone who preaches fear about Medellin and Centro, are fearful in America as well. Did anyone read my previous post? 17 trips to Centro last year, not one incident of harm. People see me in Centro so much they walk up to me & call me by my Colombian name. So if you want to miss the best sex at the cheapest prices avoid Centro. But if you want to know all about centro you must do what The Tall Man, Wolf, myself & others have done. Put boots on the ground and explore centro for yourself. The best time for girls in vera cruz is 11:45 am-1 pm and 3 pm-6 pm. Lunch time & after school. Or work. Trust me, Pollo negro is out!

Just to be clear, because I don't want to hear about somebody getting stabbed or robbed based on my posts:

El Centro aka La Candelaria, aka downtown is not for everybody.

If you are not used to sketchy places and dodgy people sizing you up to maybe mug you stay in El Poblado or Laurales or the Mansion and cab to the nicer strip clubs and Casa's and Gustos etc.

How do I get an instagram model level girl? I've been sending DMs on tinder, facebook, and instagram (skipping Colombian cupid and SA for now) and not really getting any responses from 9's and 10's. I've just been introducing myself as an American tourist who will be visiting and ask if they will show me Medellin. Maybe just messaging the wrong girls, any leads of girls would be appreciated!

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2281901]How do you operate Centro! I have done every single method also! Except Centro! I have a skewed vision of it after watching YouTube videos. Maybe it's me but it seems like the most uncomfortable way of mongering. I imagine walking down some 3rd world looking street. Passing by shady guys and looking like a sore thumb. Then walking up to a group of thirsty unattractive women. Looking at them then walking as they make cat calls at me as I continue down ghetto streets on foot looking for a diamond in the ruff. LOL.

My thought process to avoid this scenario was find some sort of transportation (in a car seems safer). Maybe asking the cab driver to circle around until I found my diamond. Putting down the window. She walks over. Negotiates. Hope's in then off we go to either my alt or a love motel of my choosing.

Mind you, I monger alone so what is the real way of doing this safely and with a bit of dignity LOL. The whole walking the streets just doesn't seem realistic for a foreigner. What's your methods? In detail please.[/QUOTE]I monger alone, although I've gone with others to walk around El Centro. Most of my time in El Centro has been solo. I'm also 6'4" and mid 50's in age. It's pretty obvious I'm not a local. Here's how I do it.

First thing, I take the Metro. Why pay an extra 12 k for a ride that will take 30 minutes longer? I prefer to get off at the San Antonio station. Parque Berrio station is closer, but I enjoy the walk from San Antonio. From the station I walk 1/2 block west and turn right and walk north. There's all kinds of clothing shops and a few restaurants. It's only about 3 blocks to the south end of Botero Plaza. You'll see the old, white Veracruz church on your left. Up to this point, other than a few guys trying to sell you blue jeans, nobody is going to bother you.

At the church turn left down the alley. Now you'll start seeing working girls, along with a few that don't appear to be anatomically correct girls. There aren't many gems to be found on this block, but occasionally one will stand out. At the corner turn right. There will be working girls on both sides of the street. Usually there are more on the left (west) side. You'll see all types here. Usually they'll just watch you go by. Occasionally one will try to get her hands on you. It's important to not let this happen. I usually will grab their wrist and say no. I've never had one continue after that. Rarely will any of the girls say anything, although a few will click their tongues to get your attention.

At this point you can either cross the street and come back the other side, or you can walk a block north then a block west to get to the Raudal area. It's only half a block long.

My advice is to keep moving. Don't stop to gawk. Only stop when you find one that interests you. Chances are, nobody will bother you.

Of course that's only one option. There's also the strip clubs. For those, it's best to take a taxi at night. Find a spot to sit down and get a beer or a bottle of water. If you see one you like, wave her over.

Probably the best option for you is a visit to the casas. Most guys will take a taxi to New Life, although I walk. The names of the casas won't help you much. The taxi drivers know where they are, but don't know the names. Give the driver the address and tell him it's "la casa de chicas con la puerta azul. "

Go through the blue door, you'll come to a security gate with a buzzer. Once the gate is unlocked go up to the waiting room. The manager will tell you where to sit and the lineup will come out. Having a pen and paper is handy because there will be about 20 girls. Each girl will shake your hand and tell you her name. Remember the name of the one you prefer. After the lineup tell the manager your choice. He'll call her out and she'll take you to a room. Afterwards she'll take you to the cashier.

If you don't see one you like, Aiffe is 1 block north. It has a red door. If nothing there, Sexxy Amigas is about 2 blocks away with a brown door. There are a few more all within walking distance.

As long as you follow the advice that's been given plenty of times here about keeping yourself safe, you should be fine.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2282039]To be clear, Uber is a personal vehicle so I would not know. The Uber driver of course is a stranger to me- that is what I meant. I would prefer not to flag my location to someone driving their personal vehicle.

Some girls claim to have friends that drive them but not likely in a taxi because that would require the driver of a yellow taxi to be on duty and available when she needed the ride to or from. That's not likely.

But if I am not the one that calls for the Uber I have to take her word for it and I have no record.

It's about limiting exposure over time. I use apps that call yellow taxis and it works just fine, even if more expensive. I know girls buddy up and talk with Uber drivers. I prefer yellow taxis..[/QUOTE]Your reasoning is excellent. It's not necessarily correct, but it is excellent.

Let's start with the last part first. You returned from a shower to find the girl had already called for a ride? Instead of calling for a ride, she could have opened the door and let her friends inside. For someone so worried about security, this makes no sense.

Now let's go to the yellow taxis are safer angle. I remember seeing a girl riding around in a yellow taxi, through Parque Lleras, trying to flag down gringos and get them to get in the cab. Clearly she knew the driver and that seems like a dangerous taxi to me. I've also had a few girls show up in a taxi, where it was obvious they knew the driver. I've had a few girls call for a ride and the friend that showed up was in a yellow taxi.

These girls spend a lot of time in taxis. It's not unlikely for them to have a driver they work with.

I've been involved in a couple of conversations with taxi drivers. Both were nice guys, but they lived in rough areas. One was from Manrique and the other lived in Paris. That one even showed us his house. However, there are plenty of not so nice guys in those areas. How many of them have a taxi?

Uber, on the other hand, has requirements for the cars they allow. It's a larger investment for the driver, plus the driver already has taxi drivers who will beat the crap out of him if they get the chance. They have a lot more at stake than a taxi driver.

Personally, I've never had a problem with either. For a few months I used Uber a lot, then I began using taxis more.

How do I find instagram fitness model level hot 10's? Haven't had any luck getting responses to DMs on tinder, instagram, or facebook. Do casas or strip clubs have 10's, or mostly 7's and 8's?