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[QUOTE=SeaTraveler;2777102]It's the evening dates or overnighters where the true value lies in Southeast Asia. I prefer longer "date-like" encounters over the "wham-bam-thank-you ma'am" of the brothels.

A date with Kimber in Toronto is $5000 for 10 hours. 24 hours with Madison Winter in Toronto is $10,000.

My 3-week trip to Jakarta; Bali, Manila & Angeles with business class plane tickets and 4-5 star hotels is costing around $8,000. Add an overnighter in Jakarta at $300 and I'm still ahead of a that single date with Winter.

Overnighters in the USA run from $3000 to $6000.

And that ya'll is why I save my money and travel.

Cheers, SEA Traveler.[/QUOTE]Not sure you can compare the quality of girls like Madison winters to what's available in Asia.

Gone are the days of the better looking girls of Angeles staying long time for cheap, why because the better looking girls are in extremely high demand and charge by the hour, why fuck one guy for 10 hours for 5,000 p when she can fuck 5 guys at 5,000 p per hour = 25,000 p per day.

Yes one can find a freelance old homeless girl in Angeles for long time with cheaper price but who would travel around the world for such.

Hi guys,

How is the holiday going to affect the amount of girls in Angeles City?

I wonder if most of the girls will be going back to their provinces.

Thanks for your inputs.

[QUOTE=PuteNut;2776517]Good to see a realistic post interspersing the tales of non-stop condomless debauchery with AC's "top models" LOL.

I think it's becoming more common that the girl clarifies this point before going out, happens quite often to me. I tend to prefer lower mileage so perhaps my sample is skewed. Hygiene seems also to be stressing condoms in their mandatory lectures. Condom or no condom is a personal choice; you may not catch the big one going sans French letters, but AC can certainly put you out of action with some other nasties.[/QUOTE]Catching something fatal in your cock and succumbing prematurely to the Reaper is an occupational hazard for all mongers not just the bareback gang. A certain percentage of condoms will fail and mongers will be infected. On the other hand, mongers lacking adequate immunity could just as easily expire due to infection from a particularly virulent strain of Covid-19 caught during a night of condom-filled debauchery with an infectious LBFM.

I've read a lot in this (AC) and the Manila threads, but I'm confused (and lost in discussions that veer to Indonesia and other topics).

On Burgos Street, it the bar fine is now 3500-4000, then you pay as much again to the girl, negotiated up front.

In AC, the bar fine averages 3500. But does she also negotiate 3000-4000 up front, or is such a tip not expected, just 500-1000 for good effort?

[QUOTE=Lulle;2777630]I've read a lot in this (AC) and the Manila threads, but I'm confused (and lost in discussions that veer to Indonesia and other topics).

On Burgos Street, it the bar fine is now 3500-4000, then you pay as much again to the girl, negotiated up front.

In AC, the bar fine averages 3500. But does she also negotiate 3000-4000 up front, or is such a tip not expected, just 500-1000 for good effort?[/QUOTE]Burgos is 10 drinks for the Barfine, paid directly to the bar before you leave. Depending on where you are that will be 35 to 3900 peso. The girl will also want her payment based on ST / LT, time of night etc. This could be anywhere from 3 to 6000 peso and is typically paid direct to her before she leaves the room. A newbie may be asked for full payment upfront but it's not necessary to do this.

AC barfines include both the bar and girl's fees and is paid in full before leaving the bar. A tip can be added for good service and would typically be in the 00's of pesos.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2777244]Not sure you can compare the quality of girls like Madison winters to what's available in Asia..[/QUOTE]Why? I'll be honest and say I didn't find her anything special. Certainly not $10 k special. I realise she markets herself as "girl next door" but I've seen many girls in AC and Asia generally who are stunners in comparison. Of course YMMV depending on preferences.

She's certainly not the only one to post a crazy sticker price and wait for idiots to pay it.

Granted, if your measure of "quality" is education, intelligence and conversation, then that's a different discussion and I'd agree with you.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2777711]Why? I'll be honest and say I didn't find her anything special. Certainly not $10 k special. I realise she markets herself as "girl next door" but I've seen many girls in AC and Asia generally who are stunners in comparison. Of course YMMV depending on preferences.

She's certainly not the only one to post a crazy sticker price and wait for idiots to pay it.

Granted, if your measure of "quality" is education, intelligence and conversation, then that's a different discussion and I'd agree with you.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]I think what I was trying to say is that you don't see girls of Madison winters quality dancing around chrome poles in Asian gogo bars.

Of course there are Asian professional models that are just as high quality as their western sisters, but the Asian professional models that might also sell their body cost the same 1000's of usd per night as their western sisters.

What I won't accept though is members claiming that professional models are expensive in Toronto Canada or usa so its much better to travel to Asia to fuck much lower quality cheaper bar girls, of course that would in no way be comparing apples to apples.

In honesty I look at most of the Angeles girls available to westerners and would not even buy them a lady drink let alone pay 100 usd to fuck them and I'm already here so no travel expenses.

As a side note I once paid a manila motor show model a very large sum of money for a night back at my hotel, was it money well spent, you bet it was, one of the best faces, body and fucks I have had in the phills.

Morale of the story, quality girls are not found in the bargain basement section.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2777753]I think what I was trying to say is that you don't see girls of Madison winters quality dancing around chrome poles in Asian gogo bars.

What I won't accept though is members claiming that professional models are expensive in Toronto Canada or usa so its much better to travel to Asia to fuck much lower quality cheaper bar girls, of course that would in no way be comparing apples to apples.

Morale of the story, quality girls are not found in the bargain basement section.[/QUOTE]I'd definitely agree here. Not too many Ms Universe contestants swinging $100 tricks on Walking street.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2777753]

As a side note I once paid a manila motor show model a very large sum of money for a night back at my hotel, was it money well spent, you bet it was, one of the best faces, body and fucks I have had in the phills.[/QUOTE]I've done the same, though my weakness is dancers rather than models. Unfortunately, my run rate is not good as I have definitely scored more entitled princesses than fun good-time girls. However, you are right that when the planets align, then it makes a great evening.

One area that Asia does excel in is unwrapping a jeans and T-shirt 6 to find a bikini model underneath. That's a pleasant surprise that I have had a few times. Many more times than being pleasantly surprised by a looker's performance.

Cheers. G.

Will I find places in Angeles, possibly also in Manila or Cebu, which will be at least a little similar to BKK Thermae? To be honest, I don't feel like having drinks, barfines, etc. Thanks in advance for reply.

[QUOTE=Bernikle;2778133]Will I find places in Angeles, possibly also in Manila or Cebu, which will be at least a little similar to BKK Thermae? To be honest, I don't feel like having drinks, barfines, etc. Thanks in advance for reply.[/QUOTE]You are looking for a FL bar, like Manila's LA Cafe, Hussy's, or G-Point bars. These places are in Malate city (Manila area). OTOH there are plenty of street walkers to be negotiated with and had in AC.

Gents, is there such a place in AC (besides the disco, where he won't be sure who is and is not a working girl)?

[QUOTE=Bernikle;2778133]Will I find places in Angeles, possibly also in Manila or Cebu, which will be at least a little similar to BKK Thermae? To be honest, I don't feel like having drinks, barfines, etc. Thanks in advance for reply.[/QUOTE]This is not an international franchise business. Every world wide city has its own supply and delivery system not duplicated elsewhere. AC has an excellent supply and delivery system of bars with drinks and barfines.

Some like it and some dont.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2778183].. (besides the disco, where he won't be sure who is and is not a working girl)?[/QUOTE]No need to ask if any 23 yo philippina, talking to her grandpa in a foreigner joint at 3 am, is a working girl or not. 😊.

[QUOTE=Bernikle;2778133]Will I find places in Angeles, possibly also in Manila or Cebu, which will be at least a little similar to BKK Thermae? To be honest, I don't feel like having drinks, barfines, etc. Thanks in advance for reply.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bernikle;2660592]Many thanks for these links. Has anyone used these websites?

How it's working? Do we meet the girl in her place? Has anyone managed to contact the girl directly? So far I'm talking on "Line" with bots and "admins" of girls. I am also aware that the reality may not match the photos.

Thanks in advance for the hints.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bernikle;2565553]Hi,

Has anyone been to GT in recent days? I would like to go on the weekend, but I wonder if it's worth it. How about the amount of girls?

Thank you in advance for your answer.[/QUOTE]That's Bernikle's entire post history. Sorry I didn't check it first.

Hey Bern: Do you have any informative, descriptive posts for the gents? Anything other than questions for the group? Thanks in advance.

AC is not for everyone.

What really pissed me off is the price has more than doubled over the past few years. Yes, the jeepney used to be 6 pesos and now it it is costs 12 pesos! What a bummer.

Lots of things to complain about AC.

But the friends and family plan still exist.

A week ago I barfined one girl and had a great LT session. Ends up she refers 4 different girls over to me. One of the girls brings over her 2 sisters, one cousin and a neighbor!

All for a 5 kilo bag of onions to each girl.