Angeles City

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2778880]AC is not for everyone.

What really pissed me off is the price has more than doubled over the past few years. Yes, the jeepney used to be 6 pesos and now it it is costs 12 pesos! What a bummer.

Lots of things to complain about AC.

But the friends and family plan still exist.

A week ago I barfined one girl and had a great LT session. Ends up she refers 4 different girls over to me. One of the girls brings over her 2 sisters, one cousin and a neighbor!

All for a 5 kilo bag of onions to each girl.[/QUOTE]The interesting part of AC is the chain of ladies you can get from one link. I always enjoyed it. I never saw such association of companionships among girls in any country. They always share and care. Precovid time when I pick a friend from a High Society another one will be attached to it. I enjoyed three some in AC lot of time and is much easier to get than in Pattaya with less damage.

Hello,

This year I will make my first trip to Angeles City. I have been reading the forum and I have some doubts:

-Currently, how much does short time and long time cost with the girls in the bars? And with the freelancers?

-Is there a club where you can meet freelancers, like the High Society was before?

What time do the bars close on Walking Street?

Any other advice for a newbie like me would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2778880]All for a 5 kilo bag of onions to each girl.[/QUOTE]You are very generous to the freelancers. 5 X 600 = 3000 pesos.

I normally would pay 2500 (for short time; several hours; I usually don't do long time). 2500 is good. If you think about it, the barfines are between 3500 - 5000 on Fields. Girl should get half minus 100 or 200 (for mamasan).

I'm not complaining. I invite all to pay as much to the girls as they can. The girls deserve it.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2778964]You are very generous to the freelancers. 5 X 600 = 3000 pesos.

I normally would pay 2500 (for short time; several hours; I usually don't do long time). 2500 is good. If you think about it, the barfines are between 3500 - 5000 on Fields. Girl should get half minus 100 or 200 (for mamasan).

I'm not complaining. I invite all to pay as much to the girls as they can. The girls deserve it.[/QUOTE]The last batch was well worth it. 18-19-20 yo young and inexperienced. I checked all the ids. 18 yo will be 19 end of the month. Priceless moments.

Barhop walking street 1st week of 2023,I had planned on laying off the barhops for a couple of weeks but 3 new business clients had been over in angeles visiting from Korea for a couple of days and asked if I would show them around the nightlife venues, here's what we visited and found.

1st bars were in a row of la bamba bar, lollipop bar, geckos bar, as we walked into la bamba bar the girls on seeing customers walk in they quickly jumped to their feet from sitting on the edge of the stage to start dancing, you could see that they were confused but delighted to see young koreans in their bar as this is normally a western bar, big smiles on their faces and gesturing that they wanted to be called down for drinks, we ordered our drinks and the waitress asked if we wanted company to which one korean replied not now, maybe later, they obviously were not interested on what was on offer but wanted to seem polite.

Lollipop bar and geckos bar were much the same, we had drinks but did not call any of the girls down for drinks as none had caught our eye.

I decided that it was time to head to the korean owned bars of walking st where there was more possibility of my korean guests finding something to their liking.

Ist korean bar was club sky, I know the korean manager here and he had rushed over to greet us and seat us at a good table, we ordered drinks and I had spotted a girl Jocelynn that I knew so I gestured for her to come over, a quick whisper in her ear and we were joined by her and 3 other girls for drinks, big smiles from my guests as they moved in closer for drinking games with the girls.

2nd,3rd bars were Avalon bar and Q bar, much the same as club sky the better looking girls were willing to sit with us, drink with us enjoy the food snacks that we had ordered for us and the girls, we had by now spent some serious money and my korean clients had not chosen bed partners yet, now we are talking young, handsome well dressed guys, they had had plenty of interaction with many girls but were still alone, meeting needed, I had pointed out that some of these girls could be taken home, yes they nodded we know and we have been trying but were told by the girls various excuses not to leave the bar.

To be honest my guests were not in the least bothered, they were happy that they had come over, had completed business transactions, had seen the bars, had drunk many bottles of beer and shots and now their only request was for me to show them to a restaurant that served the best ramen.

Its easy to see why the better looking girls of angeles go crazy when they see koreans, from what I saw the girls were treated with the utmost respect and had filled their bellies on snacks and had earned large in lady drinks all without any one seeing the colour of their panties, what's not to like.

In summing up it seems that some members on this board can get laid by multiple girls long time for the price of a bag of onions yet very high spending young handsome koreans are turned down en masse by the girls, Amazing philippines as they say.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2778331]That's Bernikle's entire post history. Sorry I didn't check it first.

Hey Bern: Do you have any informative, descriptive posts for the gents? Anything other than questions for the group? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Hey Westy: Thank you for your response. If someone is as nice as you and also shares similar spots, I will certainly share my opinion after visiting them.

I will only comment on the answer that Thermae does not have a franchise in the Philippines with a smile.

[QUOTE=Gorrion;2778962]Hello,

This year I will make my first trip to Angeles City. I have been reading the forum and I have some doubts:

-Currently, how much does short time and long time cost with the girls in the bars? And with the freelancers?

-Is there a club where you can meet freelancers, like the High Society was before?

What time do the bars close on Walking Street?

Any other advice for a newbie like me would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Lets see if I can help a noobie out.

Short time or long time is not the no1 concern in Angeles bars, working out who the drinks only girls are, the cherrie girls (virgins) are and the Korean only girls are the concern.

Some girls that work in western owned bars are happy to barfine, mostly short time, the quality of girls is very low though, the lower the quality of girl chosen the higher chance of getting long time due to desperation of girl and the limited earning potential of the girl, most girls that will actually barfine in the western owned bars start at 3,500 pesos but some think their worth much more.

There is no exclusive freelance discos now in Angeles, there is hammer club but it tends to cater to hiso locals in groups or Asians with their dates wanting to dance, occasionally a few lone males are in but the pickings in single girls are very slim, and obviously one has to be careful the girl they try to talk to is not there with her pinoy husband / boyfriend.

The better girls work in the Korean bars, all are welcome but if one is a westerner in a Korean bar although ones drinking money is welcome the chance of any attention from the girls is remote, barfines for westerners even more remote, the few girls that will barfine with Asians are all short time girls at 5,000 peso per girl.

Good luck on your visit and pay back to the board with a trip report.

[QUOTE=Bernikle;2779029]Hey Westy: Thank you for your response. If someone is as nice as you and also shares similar spots, I will certainly share my opinion after visiting them.

I will only comment on the answer that Thermae does not have a franchise in the Philippines with a smile.[/QUOTE]Be: All of your posts are questions. There isn't a single solid descriptive field report of your experiences. We call that "Taking without Giving". Consider blessing the Thailand forums with one of your Thermae experiences.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2778987]
2nd,3rd bars were Avalon bar and Q bar, much the same as club sky the better looking girls were willing to sit with us, drink with us enjoy the food snacks that we had ordered for us and the girls, we had by now spent some serious money and my korean clients had not chosen bed partners yet, now we are talking young, handsome well dressed guys, they had had plenty of interaction with many girls but were still alone, meeting needed, I had pointed out that some of these girls could be taken home, yes they nodded we know and we have been trying but were told by the girls various excuses not to leave the bar.

To be honest my guests were not in the least bothered, they were happy that they had come over, had completed business transactions, had seen the bars, had drunk many bottles of beer and shots and now their only request was for me to show them to a restaurant that served the best ramen.

Its easy to see why the better looking girls of angeles go crazy when they see koreans, from what I saw the girls were treated with the utmost respect and had filled their bellies on snacks and had earned large in lady drinks all without any one seeing the colour of their panties, what's not to like.
[/QUOTE]Have not been to Phils for 7 years. Had a Korean friend. We bar hopped just the two of us when he visited on 3 different occasions. We scared everyone because everyone at the bars could not figure out why we were together barhopping. They assumed we were working for the police. I could see the writing on the walls back then with him and his buddies (met twice during group barhop) and it has finally happened. The idiot Koreans finally out priced themselves so the girls will not even go out with them. The Koreans feed them, buy them drinks, and rain money on them so they have no reason to leave the bars. Hell, I bet they tip the girls just for sitting and drinking with them. First they screw things up for everyone else and now have done it to themselves. The worst part is they are too stupid to comprehend what they have done. I saw it in my buddy and then compounded it like interest in my head for ten years and the results came sooner rather than later. I retire late this year and AC was my plan back in the day but luckily I knew soon after that would not happen.

"At Club Sky the better looking girls were willing to sit with us" How very sad you sound so appreciative that the girls were willing to join you which says a lot but in a bad way. Most posts talk about so few customers. The girls should be thrilled your group walked in the door. In the past the customer was king but now the girls are.

Sad. I remember sitting at Kokomo's watching the girls walk by 15 years ago. I saw several hotties walk past every time I ate there. Then 7 years ago the walking traffic passing by dropped nearly in half and the hotties walking past plummeted by 80%. I will visit again 2024 just for the memories for 2 weeks. Mostly I will do some outdoor touristy stuff. See what action can be found in the provinces.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2778964]You are very generous to the freelancers. 5 X 600 = 3000 pesos.

I normally would pay 2500 (for short time; several hours; I usually don't do long time). 2500 is good. If you think about it, the barfines are between 3500 - 5000 on Fields. Girl should get half minus 100 or 200 (for mamasan).

I'm not complaining. I invite all to pay as much to the girls as they can. The girls deserve it.[/QUOTE]BTW, I was using the spot market price of P700 per kilo. Which is equal to a barfine price. I have found for myself it is better to let them make some extra money. It works for me.

Have been trawling the bars for 3 nights (and some day time). I arrived early first day and so went to a perimeter bar, Touch of Class / Emotions, which opens at midday and closes at 9 pm. Girls ok overall but friendly place. Luckily I saw one super bored looking but very, for me, attractive lady on stage. I relaxed and just took in the scenery and noticed she started interacting with other dancers, waitresses etc and looked friendly and charming. I invited her down from stage and she explained she was looking bored because " no drinks ". Haha. Of Course!! So we got on splendidly and she was warm and cuddly and soon had her legs and arms wrapped around me as we chatted and she slowly consumed her first drink of the day. Bar fine, short time / long time, was 2,500 pesos. She was 25, slim, pretty and so nice to be in bed with. Happy day!! After a break I went bar hopping and found cute enough girls to buy drinks for etc. Next day I went around 7 pm to Club Asia, a Korean owned bar. It's a fun place for overall set up and atmosphere with some very nice looking women. Definitely one of the best larger places in my opinion. One girl on stage had a non-stop blank to serious expression on her face but she was very attractive so I decided to buy one drink and see if she would interact and be warm and chatty. She turned out to be great great company and warm and cuddly. Yum!! I went out, bar hopped a lot and went to sleep about midnight. But she'd given me her contact and so at 3 am I got a call, woke up and spent the night with an adorable woman. She left about 9. 30 am and I gave her 2,000 pesos. Bar fine there is 4,000 or 4,500. I have noticed some girls look at Korean guys and give me a polite smile before looking at Korean guys etc. But I had great luck in Korean owned Club Asia and in a perimeter bar with pool table and older western guys.

[QUOTE=Gorrion;2778962]-Currently, how much does short time and long time cost with the girls in the bars?[/QUOTE]On Walking Street, the barfines are between 3500 - 5000. In theory, that is longtime, but many girls don't want to do longtime. You need to ask. Some bars have 2 types of barfines, short time and longtime. At XS for example, the short time is 4000, and longtime is 5000. Not sure if that longtime barfine guarantees a longtime experience. Barfines on Perimeter Road will be slightly cheaper.

These days, the girls expect a tip. It's not mandatory though. It seems over half the guys tip. Some guys don't tip; then the girl will label you as cheap. These type of questions might be difficult to get a true answer. But you need to put everything together. Average tip for a cute girl in demand might be 500.

[QUOTE=Gorrion;2778962]And with the freelancers?[/QUOTE]I guess you're asking what is the bottom price. Not sure. You need to read previous posts from people who mainly do freelancers. Of course, prices will vary.

[QUOTE=Gorrion;2778962]-Is there a club where you can meet freelancers, like the High Society was before?[/QUOTE]There are 3 nightclubs. There is 2 next to Envy. One upstairs, and one downstairs. It's not really like High Society. In one bar, they put tables on the dance floor, so it's more like a "table" club. There's some single girls. Not as much as the old High Society. There's also Sky Trax, further up the road.

There's also freelancers on Walking Street. They offer "massages". More ladyboys now than before, especially late at night. They used to only hang out in front of Phillies, but they expanded.

There's also internet sites.

[QUOTE=Gorrion;2778962]What time do the bars close on Walking Street?[/QUOTE]Many bars close at 2 am. Some bars close at 3 am. Carousel closes at 4 am. Not sure if that bar next to Kokomos is still 24 hours.

[QUOTE=Gorrion;2778962]Any other advice for a newbie like me would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]You need to ask the girls all the questions before you buy them a ladydrink (if you want to save money) or barfine (to avoid conflicts).

I wasn't impressed by the quality of the girls in the Korean bars between Amsterdam and Atlantic. But those Korean bars open early during the day. Maybe all the cute ones were barfined when they opened. That guy probably has never been there. In the Korean style bars, the girls wear dresses. They usually have Korean managers. Most of them open early. Most of them are moms. You're an idiot of you entertain Korean businessmen, and you don't take them to Dragon Bar. They probably has the best quality for a Korean bar. 4000 barfine plus mandatory ladydrink. But you need to get there early, at 5 or 6 when they open. Many girls there. Many will only accept East Asians there. If you get there at 11 pm, the stage is virtually empty. But there are numerous decent girls on their phones, not dancing. Those girls came back from their "short time" barfine.

The best quality I've seen is at XS. Atlantis went downhill. Avalon and XS are not Korean owned. Some of the taped supermodels are good. But most of them have sponsors / boyfriends. You need to ask if you want to barfine. Avalon and XS are owned by the same group. There was one, very cute taped supermodel at Avalon.

Many of the cute girls I talk to, including in the Western owned bars, will not go out with you if you are Black or Indian. I ask why. They always say because Black guys have big dicks. Then I ask, if they show you their small dicks, will you barfine. They always say no.

The cute girls have more options since they are barfined everyday. Some of them will say no to long time. Some of them even will say no to BJs.

Barfine the waitresses for horny, desperate girls. They hardly ever get barfined. Most of them are moms.

Most girls on stage with dresses will be moms.

If you play poker, there's Wild Aces. I heard there's one at the Hyatt inside Clark. The other 2 that were around closed since the Pandemic.

Things might / should change with the pandemic ending.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2779182]

Many bars close at 2 am. Some bars close at 3 am. Carousel closes at 4 am. Not sure if that bar next to Kokomos is still 24 hours.

.[/QUOTE]So where is the goto place for the girls after work? It was HiSo. It's a bit late for Aqua. Are they now using Mega as a last drinks option?

[QUOTE=Goferring;2779239]So where is the goto place for the girls after work? It was HiSo. It's a bit late for Aqua. Are they now using Mega as a last drinks option?[/QUOTE]I forgot about Aqua; never been there.

Not sure if there is any "goto" place for the girls after work. Around 3 am, some girls are at Mega and Hammer (the 2 clubs next to Envy). Mega and Hammer are fairly large. Hi Society wasn't that large. The last time I was there on a Saturday in October, it was fairly packed.

Right now, girls are still coming back from the holidays. Funny story; in Insomnia, the owner threatened to fire the girls if they left for the holidays. Many left anyways. Last week, there weren't that many girls working. It kind of proves the girls are more important than the bar. Of course, he will / has to hire the girls back. Right now, he must be desperate to get some girls to work.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2779250]I forgot about Aqua; never been there.

Not sure if there is any "goto" place for the girls after work. Around 3 am, some girls are at Mega and Hammer (the 2 clubs next to Envy). Mega and Hammer are fairly large. Hi Society wasn't that large. The last time I was there on a Saturday in October, it was fairly packed.

Right now, girls are still coming back from the holidays. Funny story; in Insomnia, the owner threatened to fire the girls if they left for the holidays. Many left anyways. Last week, there weren't that many girls working. It kind of proves the girls are more important than the bar. Of course, he will / has to hire the girls back. Right now, he must be desperate to get some girls to work.[/QUOTE]On Wednesdays Aqua has Ladies day / night which ladies get free P290 consumables and entry. I haven't been up there on Wednesdays to see who is there. However I have had dinner at Vintage Hall and watched quite a few lookers walking by going to Aqua. I have no idea if they are FL or not.