Angeles City

Damn you guys make AC sound horrible haven't been since 2016 but I like it sure there were a bunch of chicks with beer bellies but Dollhouse at the time had a pretty good group of chicks. I read the report about girls not wanting to go with black guys as a black dude that's a problem but that happened a little bit in 2016 sounds like its worse now. I live in Pattaya so I'm not pressed for company but if I choose to visit ID like to find something of quality. I'm looking at making a trip in April my visa will expire one week before Songkran so I have two weeks to kill I'm going to Cambodia for one and I thought about coming to AC. I'm also considering Jakarta so I got to pick one.

Thank you very much for all the information. It is greatly appreciated and of course I will post my report when I am there (although there are still a few months to wait).

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2779063]Lets see if I can help a noobie out....[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2779182]On Walking Street, the barfines are between 3500 - 5000.... [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2779316]On Wednesdays Aqua has Ladies day / night which ladies get free P290 consumables and entry. I haven't been up there on Wednesdays to see who is there. However I have had dinner at Vintage Hall and watched quite a few lookers walking by going to Aqua. I have no idea if they are FL or not.[/QUOTE]Its a favourite with the IG set. Lots of lookers seeking photo ops.

I'm guessing that they aren't there to measure for new floor tiles, so many should be available. Expect killers bodies, maybe even some bolt on surgeries, but eye watering prices and entitled attitudes. Simps and Sugar Daddies form a queue. 😊.

[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;2779354]Damn you guys make AC sound horrible haven't been since 2016 but I like it sure there were a bunch of chicks with beer bellies but Dollhouse at the time had a pretty good group of chicks.[/QUOTE]It's of course in the eye of the beerholder, fun can still be had if YOU work hard and pretend, mediocre girls barfined att high cost, with varying results. But I think the most negative factor is navigating these new "rules" like drinks only, barhop only, Koreans only blah blah. Used to be like you just asked mama to point out the cherries, now it's like in SFZ where you get a laundry list of cockblocking rules.

I'm almost exclusively using regulars and alternate hunting grounds these days. Not much fun in watching Koreans do money rain LOL.

[QUOTE=PuteNut;2779404]It's of course in the eye of the beerholder, fun can still be had if YOU work hard and pretend, mediocre girls barfined att high cost, with varying results. But I think the most negative factor is navigating these new "rules" like drinks only, barhop only, Koreans only blah blah. Used to be like you just asked mama to point out the cherries, now it's like in SFZ where you get a laundry list of cockblocking rules.

I'm almost exclusively using regulars and alternate hunting grounds these days. Not much fun in watching Koreans do money rain LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm still lost why some guys think that GoGo barfines are the only way to get laid in AC.

Yes, it's a complete shithole as a city but there is pussy literally everywhere. You're correct in that some go and have a great time while others can't see the wood for the trees and hate it.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2779418]I'm still lost why some guys think that GoGo barfines are the only way to get laid in AC.

Yes, it's a complete shithole as a city but there is pussy literally everywhere. You're correct in that some go and have a great time while others can't see the wood for the trees and hate it.[/QUOTE]I am a majority street guy but that is diminishing everywhere so I need to transition to online. I had 70% street to 30% bar girl split. But even back then the questions became such an ass ache.

You cherry?

You on menstruation?

You bar fine to have sex?

Is your mother or baby sick so that you have to leave early?

I think you are missing the point. Main point is your point of view is as a local living there versus most guys are 2-3 week tourists who do not want to waste time hunting with the possibility of finding little or finding low quality. Fields is a one street paradise surrounded by crap. Since the number of bars had been cut in half in the last 20 years and the amount of bar girl power and thus BS has doubled. Why stay there? The number of bars keeps shrinking and the princesses keep increasing. There are other places to go that are far nicer with just as many girls. Problem is that tourists do not have the time to tap these hidden markets and build them up to be sustainable for future visits. Think about it. Many tourists are traveling half way around the world. So many of these bar girls will not have sex with you. Many bar girls will not even drink with you. I was turned down for a drink at Camelot 7 years ago. No idea why. It was a bit embarrassing because there were lots of girls and only 3 small tables of customers (5 guys total). I could not ask another girl because she would feel like runner up or second choice which would embarrass her. From what I have been reading it is worse now. I remember the number of hot girls in the mega bars 11 years ago and then the lack of them just 7 years ago. Hope to visit later this year and report my before and after findings.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2779418]I'm still lost why some guys think that GoGo barfines are the only way to get laid in AC.

Yes, it's a complete shithole as a city but there is pussy literally everywhere. You're correct in that some go and have a great time while others can't see the wood for the trees and hate it.[/QUOTE]I think you will find that many guys want to use the gogo bars because they are short on time, a guy that is in town for a few days or a couple of weeks does not want to lose possible fucking time by trawling online only to be either let down when it comes to actually meeting the girls or the usual trick of bait and switch by the girls in which photoshopped photos are used or photos from 10 years ago used by the girls, even talking to the girls on cam before meeting does not always work out because often another girl turns up instead.

That leaves street walkers, referrals and girls that have normal jobs.

Street walkers, as has been said by many, yes years ago there were many freelance streetwalkers, now the majority are men in dresses, the few that are actually girls are not very attractive, young or slim and still charge large amounts mostly by the hour.

Referrals, yes some claim I barfine 1 bar girl and then she referred her friends and sisters to me, well the problem with that is that if the referrals were of any quality they would be drink only girls earning the big money by staying in the bar.

That leaves non pros or girls that have a job like sales girls, bank Clarks etc, again we come back to time, such girls are normally not interested in dating foreigners especially ones old enough to be her grandfather, if one is young, good looking, well dressed, drives a nice car and owns his own apartment and has all the time in the world to start the dating ritual then maybe a small chance of some pussy after a few months of courting, lets not forget that there are many young rich Koreans / Japanese living in Angeles who are all trying their luck with the sales girls, bank clerks, etc.

The reason why many westerners including many friends who were once regular visitors have turned their back on Angeles city is that it is just not easy to get laid by anything except the lowest type of girls at great expense, they have though moved on to other Asian areas where one does not have to put up with drinks only girls, virgins or girls that will only fuck certain nationalities, where the streetwalking freelancers are in their thousands and are good quality at the same price or cheaper than Angeles.

Just to add a couple of things to my previous report: Club Asia is now called Dragon Bar. I think this bar well reported here. There are stacks of girls, day shift and night shift. The stage and seating set up I think is the best of the larger bars so the atmosphere is good. Not certain about dayshift girls but I met a dayshift girl just finishing when I turned up at 5.45 pm and she was very attractive. Also to add to my previous report the nightshift girl I met after her work finished gave me her contact details as she was already on a firm promise for the night from a repeat customer and had a day off coming up next day etc etc. I am not at all sure if girls just give out contact details to anyone that buys them a drink. I am sure they would get in trouble with management. That night it turned out the customer she had or supposedly had kept messaging her delaying his arrival and he finally turned up around 2. 30 am to apologize, pay her barfine (wow, nice guy), and say he was busy with another girl. Hence her very late call to me and my 3.15 am liaison with her.

I enjoyed Geckos a lot as was a smaller bar, great music (for me. Classic rock and roll) , really fun line up of attractive girls and a scrumptious newbie for me to pounce on, barfine and take to nearby Kokomos for a 3 hour upstairs room for 500 pesos. Bar fine was 4,000, ladies drinks 300.

Gazing out on the street at Kokomos. Also a restaurant as most know: a very cute, very nubile, but scarily young looking 18 year old popped up to sit with me after she caught my eye walking past as all the girls and nearly but not quite girls do on walking street. We have each other's facebook messenger and a she is quoting prices a lot cheaper than paying ladies drinks and bar fines in the walking street or even perimeter bars. Hmmm!! We'll see but so far hands full and time taken with nice ladies I have met from the gogo bars.

[QUOTE=Rexy1234;2779168]Have been trawling the bars for 3 nights (and some day time). I arrived early first day and so went to a perimeter bar, Touch of Class / Emotions, which opens at midday and closes at 9 pm. Girls ok overall but friendly place. Luckily I saw one super bored looking but very, for me, attractive lady on stage. I relaxed and just took in the scenery and noticed she started interacting with other dancers, waitresses etc and looked friendly and charming. I invited her down from stage and she explained she was looking bored because " no drinks ". Haha. Of Course!! So we got on splendidly and she was warm and cuddly and soon had her legs and arms wrapped around me as we chatted and she slowly consumed her first drink of the day. Bar fine, short time / long time, was 2,500 pesos. She was 25, slim, pretty and so nice to be in bed with. Happy day!! After a break I went bar hopping and found cute enough girls to buy drinks for etc. Next day I went around 7 pm to Club Asia, a Korean owned bar. It's a fun place for overall set up and atmosphere with some very nice looking women. Definitely one of the best larger places in my opinion. One girl on stage had a non-stop blank to serious expression on her face but she was very attractive so I decided to buy one drink and see if she would interact and be warm and chatty. She turned out to be great great company and warm and cuddly. Yum!! I went out, bar hopped a lot and went to sleep about midnight. But she'd given me her contact and so at 3 am I got a call, woke up and spent the night with an adorable woman. She left about 9. 30 am and I gave her 2,000 pesos. Bar fine there is 4,000 or 4,500. I have noticed some girls look at Korean guys and give me a polite smile before looking at Korean guys etc. But I had great luck in Korean owned Club Asia and in a perimeter bar with pool table and older western guys.[/QUOTE]Nothing like a first hand with actual getting laid experience report. Thank you sir.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2779512]That leaves non pros or girls that have a job like sales girls, bank Clarks etc, again we come back to time, such girls are normally not interested in dating foreigners especially ones old enough to be her grandfather, if one is young, good looking, well dressed, drives a nice car and owns his own apartment and has all the time in the world to start the dating ritual then maybe a small chance of some pussy after a few months of courting, lets not forget that there are many young rich Koreans / Japanese living in Angeles who are all trying their luck with the sales girls, bank clerks, etc.[/QUOTE]Come on you have to be exaggerating / trolling here haha! A young good looking Westerner will not take months to score decent pussy. I've been here 1 month. 32, good shape, average looking. And non pros aged 18-25 on dating sites rated 6 - 7.5 are in abundance. It takes 1-2 weeks max to get them in bed a lot of the time less. No money exchanged. I only pay expenses. The Asian preference is strongly in the pro market because they don't bargain and are generally an easier nights work, also with some pressure from Korean owners etc. The non pro market your competition is local Filipinos. If you're young here and you can't pull for months there is something seriously wrong with you. Majority of Koreans / Japanese can't even communicate without translators, that's why they are heavily P4 P and interesting in short time. So in public you're not competing with many 'rich young Koreans' very often. Actually I see a lot of Koreans but they're usually tourists after the same short time previously mentioned.

Young, white, money still easily gets 7's and some 8's anywhere in Philippines including Angeles City.

I've looked back on some of your posts and while this is my first post all I can assume is you're either trolling or trying to put people off coming here. If it's genuinely your experience then my apologies but it won't be as you say for everyone. I accept what you say about the bars but they are crap anyway. But decent average Westerners will still find something in them.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2779599]Nothing like a first hand with actual getting laid experience report. Thank you sir.[/QUOTE]+1. He's off to a great start. I hope Rexy continues to enjoy his stay.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2779656]+1. He's off to a great start. I hope Rexy continues to enjoy his stay.[/QUOTE]I am sure he will continue to enjoy his stay. Looks like the newbie doesn't know any better!

It reminds me of when I started my business years ago. The best advice I got was not to listen to any negative nellies shitheads old timers. Most said the old days were gone and the prices are too high. Also to never listen to the local boys. They live in yesterdays.

Glad I paid attention.

[QUOTE=JordCo;2779653]Come on you have to be exaggerating / trolling here haha! A young good looking Westerner will not take months to score decent pussy. I've been here 1 month. 32, good shape, average looking. And non pros aged 18-25 on dating sites rated 6 - 7.5 are in abundance. It takes 1-2 weeks max to get them in bed a lot of the time less. No money exchanged. I only pay expenses. The Asian preference is strongly in the pro market because they don't bargain and are generally an easier nights work, also with some pressure from Korean owners etc. The non pro market your competition is local Filipinos. If you're young here and you can't pull for months there is something seriously wrong with you. Majority of Koreans / Japanese can't even communicate without translators, that's why they are heavily P4 P and interesting in short time. So in public you're not competing with many 'rich young Koreans' very often. Actually I see a lot of Koreans but they're usually tourists after the same short time previously mentioned.

Young, white, money still easily gets 7's and some 8's anywhere in Philippines including Angeles City.

I've looked back on some of your posts and while this is my first post all I can assume is you're either trolling or trying to put people off coming here. If it's genuinely your experience then my apologies but it won't be as you say for everyone. I accept what you say about the bars but they are crap anyway. But decent average Westerners will still find something in them.[/QUOTE]As many have said, quality girls is in the eye of the beholder, ones 7,8,9's might be someone else's would not fuck for free.

I own an Angeles company that employs over 100 pinays, all that are married are married to pinoys, all that are dating are dating pinoys, not one single girl is married or dating a foreigner, my own live in girlfriend (non bargirl) took 6 months to get a date with and many months of courting to get in her panties.

Those girls on dating sites are normally ex prostitutes who all of a sudden became good girls so yes those type of girls are easy and quick to fuck.

Normal educated pinays are not on dating sites looking to fuck foreigners, they are married or dating pinoys, sorry to burst your bubble.

While I often disagree with NS, parts of his viewpoint are correct.

[QUOTE=JordCo;2779653]Young, white, money still easily gets 7's and some 8's anywhere in Philippines including Angeles City.[/QUOTE]The average gent on this board is not young, white, and monied (combined). He is only one (or two) of those three things.

[QUOTE=JordCo;2779653]Come on you have to be exaggerating / trolling here haha! A young good looking Westerner will not take months to score decent pussy. I've been here 1 month. 32, good shape, average looking. And non pros aged 18-25 on dating sites rated 6 - 7.5 are in abundance. [/QUOTE]NS is not referring to young + good looking gents. He is referring to wheezer / geezers such as myself.

[QUOTE=JordCo;2779653]It takes 1-2 weeks max to get them in bed a lot of the time less. No money exchanged. I only pay expenses. [/QUOTE]Agree with the first part of this sentence, it takes time to get regular girls in bed. Longer for an older fella. Which is making NS' point, that the gents on this board don't have that kind of time. They are in town for 1-2 weeks, they are looking for point-and-shoot girls. Girls willing to sex with a 60 or 70 year old gent the moment she meets him. Regular girls you described, 18-25 years old from dating sites, are not so inclined. Girls who *are* inclined will want money.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2779698]While I often disagree with NS, parts of his viewpoint are correct.

The average gent on this board is not young, white, and monied (combined). He is only one (or two) of those three things.

NS is not referring to young + good looking gents. He is referring to wheezer / geezers such as myself.

Agree with the first part of this sentence, it takes time to get regular girls in bed. Longer for an older fella. Which is making NS' point, that the gents on this board don't have that kind of time. They are in town for 1-2 weeks, they are looking for point-and-shoot girls. Girls willing to sex with a 60 or 70 year old gent the moment she meets him. Regular girls you described, 18-25 years old from dating sites, are not so inclined. Girls who *are* inclined will want money.[/QUOTE]Westy, while we often have slight differences of opinion, you have always been the voice of reason and dignified in your responses, shame we don't have more westy, s on this board.

But in all honesty nothing would make me more happy than to report that all Angeles visitors are getting laid by super models at bargain prices and if this should start to happen then ill be the 1st to report of such with great delight, I too am stuck in Angeles, I too am a monger that wants high quality girls that are mostly all willing to barfine at lower prices but in being fair to the board and other would be visitors I feel I have to report honestly what I see and experience as do other members who are saying the same as myself.

Looking forward to many more future debates with your good self.