Angeles City

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2780387]They're not as bad as the LB's in Thailand. I hate it when they move to block my path, or touch me. All the ladyboys in Angeles do is just say Hi.

Although the ladyboys in Thailand "look" better. But it seems the ladyboys in Angeles have improved in appearance since 10 years ago. I guess they learned how to put on makeup. LOL! LOL![/QUOTE]I think it's hard to say which place (Thailand or PH) the LBs are worse. Probably depends on who you talk to. My own feeling is that PH LBs are more aggressive. Last August out in front of Phillies in AC they just wouldn't leave you the f. K alone if you're at the outdoor part of Phillies or the cafe across the street. They hang out in groups, which is what gives them extra gumption (bad enough alone).

Makati was even worse for me. Walking down Burgos street with them constantly stepping in front of you, and then once you signal your intent to charge forward no matter what, they start screaming to attract attention (as if you're planning to hit them). Of because, they're trying to incite you to do exactly that. Really tests your ability to stay cool. And even sitting in Burgos st bars, they keep coming and sitting at your table uninvited, and if you continue to ignore them, they try to stir up a fight ("Why don't you want to talk to me? And that BS). I cut my August Manila trip short because I was so sick of them and the freaking kids trying to pickpocket you.

Don't know if this will work in PH, but on my trip to Thailand last month, I decided to add some candid lines in my Thai Friendly and Tdr profile. I just said "Looking for 100% female only. Absolutely NO transgender. " I can't be sure that this was the cause, but my LB traffic on those sites was almost nonexistent. I maybe only had a few, but was generally left alone. I'm going to try next week, but we all know that the persistent ones are going to try to work around you no matter what.

One of the other bros mentioned meeting them out front first, which I think is a must, though I know lots of guys prefer the girls just showing up at their door. I tried the video call, with some success, but others have mentioned doing that and still having be&S with someone else showing up. I also met a few girls at nearby bars, willing to by them one cheap drink and get acquainted for 15 minutes before going back to my room and banging to bejesus. At least I was confident that it was a girl coming with me. Hope you can keep clear of the LBs, and hope we can at least keep talking about them candidly on this site without having to give in to PC pressure. Hell!

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2780656]What do you do when she gives you the best BBBJCIM with swallow before you discover the Chinese arithmetic equation? What happens when you have had a little too much to drink and you go balls deep in her man-pussy? Do you just go all-in or have a mental breakdown?[/QUOTE]Yeah at that point you might as well have a mental breakdown. But make sure you do harm to your SELF and NOT the ladyboy because apparently you like men on the low and you're still have issues with coming to terms with your own sexuality. Do NOT blame the ladyboy. Because I'm telling you now there ain't enough liquor in the known observable universe that would make me not know that I'm going balls deep in some ladyboys pussy AKA a mans ass 🤢.

All seriousness though everyone who travels to the Philippines and Thailand knows by now that they have to be on the lookout for ladyboys. It aint NO secret. So I plan to be on my guard in the beginning and politely ask upfront and as Reagan once said, trust but verify. Which means before ol mighty joe goes into her mouth I'm checking to see if that pussy nice and wet or if she whipping out a hard chinese algebra test down below. And if so, NO bueno, time to go. Quick fast and in a hurry.

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2780590]Be careful, in today's politically correct environment, such talk might label you as a "transphobe. " We are expected to be equal opportunity mongers. LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm not transphobe, I'm as Kat Williams once said, I'm Pro-Pussy. And if being Pro-Pussy is wrong then I don't want to be right LOL.

[QUOTE=Beavis;2780771][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBvbvCxvUzE[/URL][/QUOTE]LMAO 🤣Man you went serious OLD school with that movie. F#%%ING HILLARIOUS.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2780816] Fairly sure in my 50's that I know what the body parts look like fella. How would that happen? Was with her many times. "Maybe the lights is off in the room". Twenty or more times, with the lights on. With a woman who has 2 kids? The idea of a foreigner, visiting for more than a decade, traveling the smaller cities of Mindanao, doesn't know what a ladyboy is (or alternately can't spot one while she's naked -- 20+ times), is remote.

It was a discussion going nowhere. They weren't about to be disuaded. As I couldn't mention that I had poon pix, I finished my business there and moved on. Proof that its possible that anyone can be fooled, and in either direction.[/QUOTE]Yeah it sounded like you went into the twilight zone with that conversation. Unfortunately that happens from time to time. So much so that probably for a split, split second they had you thinking that maybe she isn't. But WAIT a sec, you got video, pics and she has 2 kids. I wouldve toldem F##$ OUT OF HERE lol

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2780851]Maybe, your ladyboy was post-op. It happens. Lots of foreigners fall for a fake pussy and laryngeal shave.[/QUOTE]AND just like that we're right back in the twilight zone. I take it you didn't read the part about him having videos, him smashing a billion times and the fact that she has 2 kids. Even with post op surgery that would have to be some magnificent magical pussy for him to not realize that hes been smashing a ladyboy. I know a couple dudes that got a little to drunk and fell for the ol oakie doke post op but even they knew once entering that the pussy wasn't authentic and proceeded the Jim Carry Pet Detective cleanse thyself routine.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2780851]Maybe, your ladyboy was post-op. It happens. Lots of foreigners fall for a fake pussy and laryngeal shave.[/QUOTE]Yes of course, anything is possible. But the possibility is slim. She'd never been out of Augusan del Sur. Maybe the lights were off. Maybe. . .

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2780917]Yeah it sounded like you went into the twilight zone with that conversation. Unfortunately that happens from time to time. So much so that probably for a split, split second they had you thinking that maybe she isn't. But WAIT a sec, you got video, pics and she has 2 kids. I wouldve toldem F##$ OUT OF HERE lol..[/QUOTE]In the Philippines, it pays to have a healthy skepticism of the senses. Take heed of the warning, "Believe nothing you hear, and only one half that you see." This is the land where brothers are actually husbands, and aunts are really unrelated pimps. Dating site beauties show up missing an eye, leg or all of their teeth. Sometimes, the only person in the town with no clue of reality is the foreigner.

[QUOTE=Volterra;2780854]Don't know if this will work in PH, but on my trip to Thailand last month, I decided to add some candid lines in my Thai Friendly and Tdr profile. I just said "Looking for 100% female only. Absolutely NO transgender.[/QUOTE]I tried similar a few years back. Ended up getting too many abusive type of messages, surprised you haven't yet.

I always ask the question and follow-up with I'm not looking for a ladyboy at the moment. (of course I'm never looking for a LB but they usually exit and refer their 'sister friend' or whatever).

AC is a small place and you don't want to be confronted by a group of LB as you are strolling your way back late one night.

Have the 'girl' yell, "I love gummy bears!

They pretty much have to have a super born with female voice to pass this test. That is why they always talk so quietly because the louder the voice the harder it is to suppress the male voice.

If you question if it is a lady boy or not just simply ask a girl. Real girls know.

But my absolute go to move is that if I have any doubts at all I run away.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2780951]In the Philippines, it pays to have a healthy skepticism of the senses. Take heed of the warning, "Believe nothing you hear, and only one half that you see." This is the land where brothers are actually husbands, and aunts are really unrelated pimps. Dating site beauties show up missing an eye, leg or all of their teeth. Sometimes, the only person in the town with no clue of reality is the foreigner.[/QUOTE]Not only that, often it is the husband, BF, aunt, ect. That created the profile and are the ones you are talking to. It isn't a coincidence that the same trike driver picks her up and drops her off at the bar every night. And no he isn't just a friend that lives near her. When he drops her off at your hotel he just finished doing her to so she will be ready for you.

[QUOTE=Beavis;2781119]Not only that, often it is the husband, BF, aunt, ect. That created the profile and are the ones you are talking to. It isn't a coincidence that the same trike driver picks her up and drops her off at the bar every night. And no he isn't just a friend that lives near her. When he drops her off at your hotel he just finished doing her to so she will be ready for you.[/QUOTE]Yikes! That thought is pretty gross. Now I'll be wondering if I'm getting sloppy seconds each time my girl gets out of a tricycle. 🤮.

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2781132]Yikes! That thought is pretty gross. Now I'll be wondering if I'm getting sloppy seconds each time my girl gets out of a tricycle. 🤮.[/QUOTE]We are. Get used to using one of these every time.

Veering away from ladyboy talk for a moment:

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2779930]
I do know that around 11 years ago the laws changed and that caused a huge supply issue. We old timers know that back in the day 70% of the girls came from Samar (now maybe 10% Most girls now are from Pampanga and Manila (both areas with girls who know the game and are more hardened than the Samar girls). Why? In the past mamasans and bar girls would make yearly recruiting visits finding cousins, sisters, past school mates, neighbors, and so on. But the laws changed making that trafficking in women so that stopped real quick.
[/QUOTE]If this is true, why wouldn't a dedicated punter just go to Samar and meet these "cousins, sisters, past school mates, neighbours, and so on" for themselves? Presumably, the supply of them is still there, and still just as desperate for money, but now there's nobody coming over to recruit them, right?

Is it that these girls are spread too thin out among various rural villages, such that it'd be more work than it's worth to find them if you're only interested in one shag with each girl?

Is it that the desperate provincial girls are only willing to talk to locals / people they know, since they don't yet see themselves as working girls serving the "customer service needs" of foreigners? (In that case, why not hire a guide —*ideally, a retired / non-working mamasan, someone knows exactly who she'd [I]like[/I] to recruit, if only she were allowed, but can point you at them instead?

In less than a month I will be returning to Angeles for the first time in eight years (I made the rookie mistake of getting a girlfriend but now thankfully I'm single again).

I trawled back 100 pages to research my forthcoming trip, collecting any relevant information along the way, and for the first time I can honestly say I haven't got any questions. So I'd just like to thank all contributors for your fields reports and providing such a goldmine of information.

I will post a day-by-day diary of my trip, on this page, Manila and Cebu.

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2781132]Yikes! That thought is pretty gross. Now I'll be wondering if I'm getting sloppy seconds each time my girl gets out of a tricycle. 🤮.[/QUOTE]Not only trike but bars as well. On my last trip met a girl in one of the bars early in the evening so she was on day shift. Everything was going fine as she was a real cutie so a barfine was in the cards. While she was in the john another girl I knew walks up, careful she's been on two ST already. These girls can be jealous and petty so I took that into account. When she returns I work in the conversation business looks good now since COVID, you doing OK. Yep two ST already today I've been lucky. I'm thinking, well darling your luck just ran out. It never hurts to ask and true some will lie but allot of them like to brag about their prowess as they are very desirable. DATY is probably my favorite. So a day or two is fine as they probably would have time for a proper wash but one or two hours? Ewwww that's just disgusting.

[QUOTE=RadicalGuy;2781132]Yikes! That thought is pretty gross. Now I'll be wondering if I'm getting sloppy seconds each time my girl gets out of a tricycle. 🤮.[/QUOTE]Let's not discuss what that special taste is, if you go down on a bargirl. 😱.

[QUOTE=ZachHammond;2781220]Veering away from ladyboy talk for a moment:

If this is true, why wouldn't a dedicated punter just go to Samar and meet these "cousins, sisters, past school mates, neighbours, and so on" for themselves? Presumably, the supply of them is still there, and still just as desperate for money, but now there's nobody coming over to recruit them, right?

Is it that these girls are spread too thin out among various rural villages, such that it'd be more work than it's worth to find them if you're only interested in one shag with each girl?

Is it that the desperate provincial girls are only willing to talk to locals / people they know, since they don't yet see themselves as working girls serving the "customer service needs" of foreigners? (In that case, why not hire a guide *ideally, a retired / non-working mamasan, someone knows exactly who she'd [I]like[/I] to recruit, if only she were allowed, but can point you at them instead?[/QUOTE]I have no idea what the change in law 11 years ago was.

There are not any large cities in Samar to meet girls discreetly. Let alone a hotel in the small villages. Most girls will not meet a foreigner in a hotel. The major town is Tacloban with an airport which you could meet a girl. Most province villages will be 1-3+ hours away by van or bus. I doubt they will come to meet you for monger activities.

When they are recruited it is for a "waitress" or "sales lady" job in the big city probably Manila or Cebu. That is the story to the families. Most know it will be as a dancer in AC but probably not fully aware of all the job duties. But being in a financial bind and willing to help the family they will go.

The supply system in place works fine.

[QUOTE=ZachHammond;2781220]If this is true, why wouldn't a dedicated punter just go to Samar and meet these "cousins, sisters, past school mates, neighbours, and so on" for themselves? SNIP

Is it that these girls are spread too thin out among various rural villages, such that it'd be more work than it's worth to find them if you're only interested in one shag with each girl?

Is it that the desperate provincial girls are only willing to talk to locals / people they know, since they don't yet see themselves as working girls serving the "customer service needs" of foreigners? (In that case, why not hire a guide *ideally, a retired / non-working mamasan, someone knows exactly who she'd [I]like[/I] to recruit, if only she were allowed, but can point you at them instead?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2781282]There are not any large cities in Samar to meet girls discreetly. Let alone a hotel in the small villages. Most girls will not meet a foreigner in a hotel. The major town is Tacloban with an airport which you could meet a girl. Most province villages will be 1-3+ hours away by van or bus. I doubt they will come to meet you for monger activities.

When they are recruited it is for a "waitress" or "sales lady" job in the big city probably Manila or Cebu. That is the story to the families. Most know it will be as a dancer in AC but probably not fully aware of all the job duties. But being in a financial bind and willing to help the family they will go.

The supply system in place works fine.[/QUOTE]ZH, its a conflating of ideas that aren't bad, but need to be separated by physical space. Showing up in a small town with a week on your hands to find poon has been amply described here as a mistake. The girls are generally too shy to meet you for anything other than a Jolliebee or coffee.

DG has hit upon some of the disparities of going to the province to find young honies. Its just not cost-effective for 2-week warriors. You probably need to meet the girls in a separate but nearby city (chismosa won't allow her to just waltz into your hotel for bang-time, the gossip will get back to her family). Its an interesting idea, possibly hiring a local pimp to find you girls to your liking, but you run into similar problems. The idea is to convince them to get away from their family area for tryst time, which DG points out is exactly how AC works.

For the short-time warrior, you need point-and-shoot access to poon. Gogo bars fill a critical need, meaning the girls and customers must come to the bar and meet in person. They can spend a bit of time together (far from prying eyes of friends / family) to get comfy and assess up close if they each want to spend time in a hotel hammering away.