FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=TheCane;2824686]My "anecdotal evidence" said nothing about Asian customers driving up prices and was not meant to "justify bias". But, it was meant to give credence to the reality that "Asian Hunters" are a known quantity and are out to take advantage of Asian customers by providing subpar service while extracting as much money as possible at the same time. People can seek to draw whatever conclusions they would like to from that truth. And mongers who have been in this game for as long as I have know that a truism it is. Now, do I believe it serves to drive up pricing? No not necessarily, but it's not helping anything either.[/QUOTE]That's fine, but again, to the original question:

Why do people here seem to be more preoccupied with the effect of Asian customers than those on German boards?

I gave my theory but I have not heard any others, only more preoccupation.

Asian guys are fascinated by white girls, just like many white guys are fascinated by asian girls. Not many white girls in these Asian countries, so a mongering trip to an FKK where there are dozens of hot ones walking around naked is a dream come true. Imagine these girls are walking around the FKK, repeatedly soliciting and getting rejected by Europeans or Americans who are sizing them up and trying to bargain down their price. When the women approach the Asian guys, they are eager to go and not so concerned about trying to bargain them down. Its not about asian guys being "desperate marks. " They are not paying more to make up for some perceived inferiority. They are paying more because they have the coin. They are eager, no hassle customers who are easy to please.

Its as simple as that. Its not rocket science.

Some of these recent comments sound like dog-whistle, backhanded racism to me. Any ruminations about "what people think of Asian men" or sexual performance just sounds like crap coming from bitter, cheap, cynical guys trying to rationalize the world around them with racist excuses. Inflation is making the price of everything go up around the world. Including ladies.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2824686]My "anecdotal evidence" said nothing about Asian customers driving up prices and was not meant to "justify bias". But, it was meant to give credence to the reality that "Asian Hunters" are a known quantity and are out to take advantage of Asian customers by providing subpar service while extracting as much money as possible at the same time. People can seek to draw whatever conclusions they would like to from that truth. And mongers who have been in this game for as long as I have know that a truism it is. Now, do I believe it serves to drive up pricing? No not necessarily, but it's not helping anything either.[/QUOTE]Cane when was your last visit at Sharks?

You mentioned that you don't like going to Sharks and you probably have not been there for a very long time. How can you right editorials or make comments on something that you have very little experience in the past 5 years? You belong in the São Paulo Brazilian forum where you have more experience with heavy set girls.

[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2824837]Cane when was your last visit at Sharks?

You mentioned that you don't like going to Sharks and you probably have not been there for a very long time. How can you right editorials or make comments on something that you have very little experience in the past 5 years? You belong in the So Paulo Brazilian forum where you have more experience with heavy set girls.[/QUOTE]I don't need to come to the aid of Cane, he's a big boy. But if you've had a couple dozen visits to assorted FKKs then you have "observed" the fact that when an Asian man comes in they seems to get more scavengers attacking them than the average white guy. Just saying. Happens in almost every FKK I've sat in. Actually it's great people watching. And like any good used car salesman, I see guys like deer in headlights succumb quickly to the sell. So who's to say the girls are wrong. They make the sale!

As to whether the prices being driven up- really? Not enough Asians to be the reason prices rise. All tourists yeah! But one particular ethnic group. Nah.

After my trips to FKK Rom, Atlanta, Sharks, Mainhattan and Oase the last weeks, back at Sharks again yesterday at 12 noon today, around very early noon 10 CDL on arrival, at 9 pm 140 girls on leaving according to reception at this time. Today public holiday in Germany, the hut was well filled from about 7 pm and there were also plenty of pretty girls. I only had 1 room. And that was a hit. And I stopped where it was most beautiful for me, everything worked out, great sympathy and chemistry. I was "grocky" afterwards, deeply relaxed, just "full". Then I just enjoyed the atmosphere, chilled and let myself be sprinkled.

[B]Valentina RO[/B] ("fresh in club" - speaks good German with an Austria accent, previously worked in the gastro industry in AT, today her 2nd day at Sharks), 25 years, 170 cm, CF 32/34, b-cups natural / firm / steep, hair dark brown, brown / green / blue eyes, medium skin, great white perfect teeth, very beautiful girl with a bombshell body, totally nice, humorous and open-minded. Drooling full service with deeper wet soft FK from the beginning, in between and when shooting away, everything safe, blow with a firm stroke, breasts touching and nipples sucking, facesitting with finger games outside and licking with fingers or thumbs in when lying on the back, pushing her pussy demanding on my mouth and pulls my head towards it, positions side missio / missio / rider with masturbation, she reaches for the body in the positions, actively participates, pleasant sighs, never used "Flutschi", circles while riding, pushes the pelvis back and forth, speed gets faster, moaning in the ears and more tongue smooching, I just press / hold against it, let them clap - "finito". Super hot act, no rush, completely relaxed room, time felt a bit over it, 100/30. [I]She will find her place... got to know the front/bar/middle, then seen the back/bar/back right, finally bar chair/"German Corner" behind the restaurant.[/I].

[B]Line Up - 7.6.[/B]

Not there: Catalea RO, Kim RO, Chayenne MD, Patricia MD, Julie MD, Melissa RO (red), Desiree MR, Liseth VE.

"Very slow business" at noon / afternoon, quit full from about 5 pm, full from about 7 pm, the public holiday "moves", more than enough guys there, on reception request at checkout currently 140 CDL inside, a group of Eastern Europeans was around 9 pm not allowed in because the front desk asked "insufficient" for German / English language skills.

Adriana RO (ex Ashley), Agnes PL, Alea GR, Alexis RO, Alia (Bosnian-Turkish), Alice RO, Alina MD (ex World), Alisha HU, Anja RO (tall, black hair, the-Cups silicone), Amy RO, Anastasia RO, Anjelica LV, Ayleen AT, Bianca RO (tall and blonde hair), Brenda RO, Cami RO, Camilla RO, Candy MD, Carla RO, Celine RO, Chanel HU, Chantal (German-Turkish, new), Chloe RO, Christina RO, Dasha PL (tall, blonde hair, see-Cups silicone, new), Dea RO, Debby DE, Dunja (Serbia, ex Jana), Esther RO, Francesca IT (or RO?, brown hair), Francesca RO (blonde hair), Gabriela RO, Ica (Serbian-Romanian), Ivana RO (ex Mainhattan), Jana DE, Jessy DE, Kaliste RO new, Katalina RO (ex "Sabina", ex Oase), Kaira (Serbian-Slovenian), Kisha KE (Blacky), Lara DE, Lea DE (blonde hair), Lena RO, Lilia DE, Liz RO, Liv RO (ex Becki), Lolita DE (Peru-Chile, born in DE, ex "Lola", ex Samya), Madalina RO new (glases, A-Cups, under the fishtank), Magda RO, Mara MD, Melanie RO, Melina RO (curly hair, afrostyle), Mirella RO, Miriam RO (ex "Estefania", ex Oase), Misha RO, Monica RO, Nelly RO, Nico RO, Rebecca RO (next to Brenda RO by the bar), Renata RO, Sabrina MD (ex World), Samara (Iranian-Bulgarian, ex GoldenTime and Globe), Samira RO, Samy RO, Sarah RO, Shania RO (ex "Isabella", ex Bahama and Atlanta), Shirin (Iranian-Bulgarian), Silvana IT, Sky RO, Sophia (Macedonia, dark blonde hair), Sylvia RO, Ulia RO (ex "Katharina", ex Julia), Valentina RO new, Vanessa RO (now with glases), Victoria CZ-RO (blonde hair), Victoria RO (black hair).

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2824876]I don't need to come to the aid of Cane, he's a big boy. As to whether the prices being driven up- really? Not enough Asians to be the reason prices rise. All tourists yeah! But one particular ethnic group. Nah.[/QUOTE]No you don't, and yes I am. This is one of those cases where the message is so weak, lame, and false that it doesn't even merit a response. I established my bona fides in the FKK threads a long time ago, and have nothing to prove. Points have been made and acknowledged by those with the experience and knowledge to confirm the existence and methods of the "Asian Hunter" across the whole of FKK club culture, whether it be at Sharks or at any other FKK club. That said, I still take issue with the assertion that it's only tourists (particularly Asians and Americans) who are responsible for "price creep". There's often a tendency to latch onto easy answers to complicated questions. I believe this is far more complicated than that with things like changes in the law, circumstances brought on in the aftermath of the pandemic, and the behaviors of European customers themselves (the ones who are by far the most frequent and therefore most influential customers of the clubs) that have contributed to rising prices.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2824891] I believe this is far more complicated than that with things like changes in the law, circumstances brought on in the aftermath of the pandemic, and the behaviors of European customers themselves (the ones who are by far the most frequent and therefore most influential customers of the clubs) that have contributed to rising prices.[/QUOTE]Yeah point taken I overstated my knee jerk reaction which was you can't blame one ethnic group I should have added "among other reasons" but we can debate all these points between rooms, beers, and checking out the girls.

[QUOTE=FFM96;2824890]After my trips to FKK Rom, Atlanta, Sharks, Mainhattan and Oase the last weeks, back at Sharks again yesterday at 12 noon today, around very early noon 10 CDL on arrival, at 9 pm 140 girls on leaving according to reception at this time. Today public holiday in Germany, the hut was well filled from about 7 pm and there were also plenty of pretty girls. I only had 1 room. And that was a hit. And I stopped where it was most beautiful for me, everything worked out, great sympathy and chemistry. I was "grocky" afterwards, deeply relaxed, just "full". Then I just enjoyed the atmosphere, chilled and let myself be sprinkled.

[B]Valentina RO[/B] ("fresh in club" - speaks good German with an Austria accent, previously worked in the gastro industry in AT, today her 2nd day at Sharks), 25 years, 170 cm, CF 32/34, b-cups natural / firm / steep, hair dark brown, brown / green / blue eyes, medium skin, great white perfect teeth, very beautiful girl with a bombshell body, totally nice, humorous and open-minded. Drooling full service with deeper wet soft FK from the beginning, in between and when shooting away, everything safe, blow with a firm stroke, breasts touching and nipples sucking, facesitting with finger games outside and licking with fingers or thumbs in when lying on the back, pushing her pussy demanding on my mouth and pulls my head towards it, positions side missio / missio / rider with masturbation, she reaches for the body in the positions, actively participates, pleasant sighs, never used "Flutschi", circles while riding, pushes the pelvis back and forth, speed gets faster, moaning in the ears and more tongue smooching, I just press / hold against it, let them clap - "finito". Super hot act, no rush, completely relaxed room, time felt a bit over it, 100/30. [I]She will find her place... got to know the front/bar/middle, then seen the back/bar/back right, finally bar chair/"German Corner" behind the restaurant.[/I].

[B]Line Up - 7.6.[/B]

Not there: Catalea RO, Kim RO, Chayenne MD, Patricia MD, Julie MD, Melissa RO (red), Desiree MR, Liseth VE.

"Very slow business" at noon / afternoon, quit full from about 5 pm, full from about 7 pm, the public holiday "moves", more than enough guys there, on reception request at checkout currently 140 CDL inside, a group of Eastern Europeans was around 9 pm not allowed in because the front desk asked "insufficient" for German / English language skills.

Adriana RO (ex Ashley), Agnes PL, Alea GR, Alexis RO, Alia (Bosnian-Turkish), Alice RO, Alina MD (ex World), Alisha HU, Anja RO (tall, black hair, the-Cups silicone), Amy RO, Anastasia RO, Anjelica LV, Ayleen AT, Bianca RO (tall and blonde hair), Brenda RO, Cami RO, Camilla RO, Candy MD, Carla RO, Celine RO, Chanel HU, Chantal (German-Turkish, new), Chloe RO, Christina RO, Dasha PL (tall, blonde hair, see-Cups silicone, new), Dea RO, Debby DE, Dunja (Serbia, ex Jana), Esther RO, Francesca IT (or RO?, brown hair), Francesca RO (blonde hair), Gabriela RO, Ica (Serbian-Romanian), Ivana RO (ex Mainhattan), Jana DE, Jessy DE, Kaliste RO new, Katalina RO (ex "Sabina", ex Oase), Kaira (Serbian-Slovenian), Kisha KE (Blacky), Lara DE, Lea DE (blonde hair), Lena RO, Lilia DE, Liz RO, Liv RO (ex Becki), Lolita DE (Peru-Chile, born in DE, ex "Lola", ex Samya), Madalina RO new (glases, A-Cups, under the fishtank), Magda RO, Mara MD, Melanie RO, Melina RO (curly hair, afrostyle), Mirella RO, Miriam RO (ex "Estefania", ex Oase), Misha RO, Monica RO, Nelly RO, Nico RO, Rebecca RO (next to Brenda RO by the bar), Renata RO, Sabrina MD (ex World), Samara (Iranian-Bulgarian, ex GoldenTime and Globe), Samira RO, Samy RO, Sarah RO, Shania RO (ex "Isabella", ex Bahama and Atlanta), Shirin (Iranian-Bulgarian), Silvana IT, Sky RO, Sophia (Macedonia, dark blonde hair), Sylvia RO, Ulia RO (ex "Katharina", ex Julia), Valentina RO new, Vanessa RO (now with glases), Victoria CZ-RO (blonde hair), Victoria RO (black hair).[/QUOTE]I wish you don't believe for 140 girls, when slow business at Sharks, except for few. Oulia is Austrian?

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2824876]I don't need to come to the aid of Cane, he's a big boy. But if you've had a couple dozen visits to assorted FKKs then you have "observed" the fact that when an Asian man comes in they seems to get more scavengers attacking them than the average white guy. Just saying. Happens in almost every FKK I've sat in. Actually it's great people watching. And like any good used car salesman, I see guys like deer in headlights succumb quickly to the sell. So who's to say the girls are wrong. They make the sale!

As to whether the prices being driven up- really? Not enough Asians to be the reason prices rise. All tourists yeah! But one particular ethnic group. Nah.[/QUOTE]100/30 and 150/60 are from covid lockdown, paid by locals to empty painful balls, but some at Sharks don't kiss like a woman for this expensive rate, so, too expensive. Some at Sharks get Asians for 150/30 and 300/60 , when can find beautiful German escorts for 200/60 without needing to pay entry. Positive of increasing rate is I got 4 really high level since October, higher level than at Globe and for less expensive, one tornado for 100/40 and Kasper. De who lowered her rate to 150/60 but kissing like a woman and no limit, no too big, no too hard. Even I thought casting would be on higher level, but can find few rare at Sharks and I enjoy with them when 1 girl can be enough for me if I really enjoy her. 2 visits at Globe on 2 Saturday on this year and couldn't find only 1 attractive.

Was there this Monday and Tuesday. Had some very nice sessions. Later Tuesday there was a girl I went to the room with (forgot her name) very beautiful small with blue dress and looked a bit Egyptian but was not from there I think. She had very curly black hair. Was tanned in a way she looked from mediterranen but probably just Romanian. Anyone knows her name? She joined late in the evening saw her around 12/1 o clock.

[QUOTE=Manny51;2824729] Some of these recent comments sound like dog-whistle, backhanded racism to me. Any ruminations about "what people think of Asian men" or sexual performance just sounds like crap coming from bitter, cheap, cynical guys trying to rationalize the world around them with racist excuses. Inflation is making the price of everything go up around the world. Including ladies.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, again the original question was:

"Why do people here seem to be more preoccupied with the effect of Asian customers than those on German boards?

And your answer is similar to the answer I came up with. English speakers have much more sexual animosity towards Asians than Germans do.

If English speakers were poorer, I could see that being a reason for their preoccupation. But English speakers are not.

All the other responses seem to be "but we're right to be preoccupied!"

[QUOTE=FFM96;2824890]After my trips to FKK Rom, Atlanta, Sharks, Mainhattan and Oase the last weeks, back at Sharks again yesterday at 12 noon today, around very early noon 10 CDL on arrival, at 9 pm 140 girls on leaving according to reception at this time. Today public holiday in Germany, the hut was well filled from about 7 pm and there were also plenty of pretty girls. I only had 1 room. And that was a hit. And I stopped where it was most beautiful for me, everything worked out, great sympathy and chemistry. I was "grocky" afterwards, deeply relaxed, just "full". Then I just enjoyed the atmosphere, chilled and let myself be sprinkled.

[B]Valentina RO[/B] ("fresh in club" - speaks good German with an Austria accent, previously worked in the gastro industry in AT, today her 2nd day at Sharks), 25 years, 170 cm, CF 32/34, b-cups natural / firm / steep, hair dark brown, brown / green / blue eyes, medium skin, great white perfect teeth, very beautiful girl with a bombshell body, totally nice, humorous and open-minded. Drooling full service with deeper wet soft FK from the beginning, in between and when shooting away, everything safe, blow with a firm stroke, breasts touching and nipples sucking, facesitting with finger games outside and licking with fingers or thumbs in when lying on the back, pushing her pussy demanding on my mouth and pulls my head towards it, positions side missio / missio / rider with masturbation, she reaches for the body in the positions, actively participates, pleasant sighs, never used "Flutschi", circles while riding, pushes the pelvis back and forth, speed gets faster, moaning in the ears and more tongue smooching, I just press / hold against it, let them clap - "finito". Super hot act, no rush, completely relaxed room, time felt a bit over it, 100/30. [I]She will find her place... got to know the front/bar/middle, then seen the back/bar/back right, finally bar chair/"German Corner" behind the restaurant.[/I].

[B]Line Up - 7.6.[/B]

Not there: Catalea RO, Kim RO, Chayenne MD, Patricia MD, Julie MD, Melissa RO (red), Desiree MR, Liseth VE.

"Very slow business" at noon / afternoon, quit full from about 5 pm, full from about 7 pm, the public holiday "moves", more than enough guys there, on reception request at checkout currently 140 CDL inside, a group of Eastern Europeans was around 9 pm not allowed in because the front desk asked "insufficient" for German / English language skills.[/QUOTE]Samara is ex Viki in NRW, but I don't remember to see her at Globe since 2016 .

[QUOTE=EsCargo;2825096]Was there this Monday and Tuesday. Had some very nice sessions. Later Tuesday there was a girl I went to the room with (forgot her name) very beautiful small with blue dress and looked a bit Egyptian but was not from there I think. She had very curly black hair. Was tanned in a way she looked from mediterranen but probably just Romanian. Anyone knows her name? She joined late in the evening saw her around 12/1 o clock.[/QUOTE]Melina RO. Romanian! (one parent is black, the other white), approx. 25 years, approx. 170 cm, curly dark hair / "afro style", see-cups silicone.

[QUOTE=FFM96;2824890]
[B]Line Up - 7.6.[/B]

Adriana RO (ex Ashley), Agnes PL, Alea GR, Alexis RO, Alia (Bosnian-Turkish), Alice RO, Alina MD (ex World), Alisha HU, Anja RO (tall, black hair, the-Cups silicone), Amy RO, Anastasia RO, Anjelica LV, Ayleen AT, Bianca RO (tall and blonde hair), Brenda RO, Cami RO, Camilla RO, Candy MD, Carla RO, Celine RO, Chanel HU, Chantal (German-Turkish, new), Chloe RO, Christina RO, Dasha PL (tall, blonde hair, see-Cups silicone, new), Dea RO, Debby DE, Dunja (Serbia, ex Jana), Esther RO, Francesca IT (or RO?, brown hair), Francesca RO (blonde hair), Gabriela RO, Ica (Serbian-Romanian), Ivana RO (ex Mainhattan), Jana DE, Jessy DE, Kaliste RO new, Katalina RO (ex "Sabina", ex Oase), Kaira (Serbian-Slovenian), Kisha KE (Blacky), Lara DE, Lea DE (blonde hair), Lena RO, Lilia DE, Liz RO, Liv RO (ex Becki), Lolita DE (Peru-Chile, born in DE, ex "Lola", ex Samya), Madalina RO new (glases, A-Cups, under the fishtank), Magda RO, Mara MD, Melanie RO, Melina RO (curly hair, afrostyle), Mirella RO, Miriam RO (ex "Estefania", ex Oase), Misha RO, Monica RO, Nelly RO, Nico RO, Rebecca RO (next to Brenda RO by the bar), Renata RO, Sabrina MD (ex World), Samara (Iranian-Bulgarian, ex GoldenTime and Globe), Samira RO, Samy RO, Sarah RO, Shania RO (ex "Isabella", ex Bahama and Atlanta), Shirin (Iranian-Bulgarian), Silvana IT, Sky RO, Sophia (Macedonia, dark blonde hair), Sylvia RO, Ulia RO (ex "Katharina", ex Julia), Valentina RO new, Vanessa RO (now with glases), Victoria CZ-RO (blonde hair), Victoria RO (black hair).[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for the lineup information.

You FFM96, Hyperion2007, Amsexyboy, NotSavvy, etc, are a few of members who always provided best lineup and girls reviews information. I really appreciate we could read more posts like yours instead of tons of non-informative ones by someone.

BTW, I haven't seen Roberta and Stacy for a while. Did you see them in your recent visits?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2824957]I wish you don't believe for 140 girls, when slow business at Sharks, except for few. Oulia is Austrian?[/QUOTE][B]U[/B]lia RO (ex Katharina and ex Julia) is romanian and she speaks fluent german with austrian accent, 27 years, brown-red hair, A-cups, CF 32/34, light skin.

The front desk told me 140 wg's inside when I left at 9 pm, "holly hall" was full for sure, girls and men, this is all I can say and what I really believe is another matter again, Sirioja. But as I told you months ago, Wednesday and Sunday are good days for locals, "Line Up" is pretty nice, entrance fee is only 50, the girls also know this. And Thursday was public holiday in Germany.

I saw a lot of other girls which I don't know so far by name and country. I know actually approx. 100 girls. From visit to visit, I know more girls.