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[QUOTE=Freezone]Hi Marrow,
Perhaps we could direct this to the Vietnam thread as I'm curious where you found tons of lookers for $20? I was there just this year and only HJ or BJ could be had for this price for a good looker (if you were lucky)
FZ[/QUOTE]Well, not so hard, if you go to discos. There are a couple in Dist. 1 with some cuties for this price. Obiouvsly, when you find them free. Agree, we will expand this topic inside Vietnam area of the forum.
[QUOTE=Amjeck]Are there a lot of 18-20yo slim pretty girls?[/QUOTE]Ye, there are, beautiful too. Ready to spend 50-100$? LOL, such a pathetic country and people at all this Cambodia XD
Still people go here? Oh my.
Every tried to ask an awesome huge tit 18y girl in europe? 50-70$, too much too. Please, don't answer you like chocolate skin, you can find in europe too, and for 30 bucks.
[QUOTE=Freezone]I do agree with others that $40 for 1-2 hours is way too much for ST rate. $40 should be the high end for LT with a stunner. Just my thoughts.[/QUOTE]
I've paid $10/ST and $20/LT multiple times with attractive girls. $40/ST is ridiculous.
[QUOTE=Evianist]I've paid $10/ST and $20/LT multiple times with attractive girls. $40/ST is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]When, 2 years ago? True is ridiculous, expecially for an expat. If u still pay 20, the reason is easy, you are a "long term customer", so why not.
That's the trick
[QUOTE=Freezone]No names to these places as it's really just someones home converted to a local brothel. But with all the crackdowns when I was there they were all closed and gated. Not sure if any had reopen since but if anyone venture there do report back and let the rest of us mongers know.
FZ[/QUOTE]I dropped by these places the other day, and I think there is nothing left really. There are some private houses with almost closed doors, but no "You want lady' or anything like that, so I think that this is over.
[QUOTE=Marrow]Ye, there are, beautiful too. Ready to spend 50-100$? LOL, such a pathetic country and people at all this Cambodia XD
Still people go here? Oh my.
Every tried to ask an awesome huge tit 18y girl in europe? 50-70$, too much too. Please, don't answer you like chocolate skin, you can find in europe too, and for 30 bucks.[/QUOTE]
So the really good looking girls have been pushed up into that price range? These are cambodian girls not imported chinese yah?
Hate to ask this kinda question here, but- anyone find a good laundromat a moderate price - hotel rob you blind.
Or have a suggestion where to stay that has their own laundryroom where I'd feed them coins?
[QUOTE=Fred Gold]Hate to ask this kinda question here, but- anyone find a good laundromat a moderate price - hotel rob you blind.
Or have a suggestion where to stay that has their own laundryroom where I'd feed them coins?[/QUOTE]
Over to you Marrow (I can't wait for the "laundromat" diatribe),
[QUOTE=Fred Gold]Hate to ask this kinda question here, but- anyone find a good laundromat a moderate price - hotel rob you blind.[/QUOTE]Depends on the hotel. I took in a pair of jeans, a shirt, and a pair of socks yesterday, and my hotel charged me an outrageous . . . one dollar.
Self-service laundromats don't really make sense in a country where people will work hard, all day, for a couple bucks. (Besides, you're going to have trouble finding coins here.) Just use any of the little laundry shops you see everywhere.
[QUOTE=Hotman 666]This was posted on Egypt, Phnom Penh and Siem Reap forums within 3 minutes yesterday!
Think the guy has his own private jet? (or maybe a time machine!)
Go figure
Hotman.[/QUOTE]Flight attendant
ok ok.. yes I have a private jet, errrrrr I mean private seat in my very own AirAsia and EgyptAir planes. IN MY DREAMS!!! It's just that I have been ripped off (or at least my feeling). Sometimes when I'd go to a local laundry to save a few bucks, they would take out the price list from some hotel and that's what they try to charge me.
btw Did you like any of the pictures I've posted? The older picture from LOS was the best provider I ever had!!!~ well at least it seemed that way from my memory. lol
since Cambodia doesn't have any coins of their own, you would need to buy the "slugs" to put into the cin slots. That means you have to find the laundromat, too, It's just easier to have it done than to do it oyursefl (particularly if you don't speak Khmer and can aske where the laundromats are. In my travels in PP, I never saw a laundromat)
I am based in Cambodia at the moment for a long-term stay. Any updates on active massages locations in PP?
If not, I was thinking that we can split up the investigation work for such between expats currently in town. We can generate a list of spots, people can volunteer to check the ones they choose out within the month, then we can report back here and have a complete updated list of massage places in the post-crackdown era.
What do you more experienced guys think of this idea?
Seght
I first went to PP 15 years ago, and of course you can't compare that with today. Sure, you can still get 10/15 ST, 20/30 LT, but good lookers? No. I haven't found one in Martini, Sharky, Walkabout for years. If I ever go to PP again, I would gladly pay 40 ST for a great looker, if there still are any. This is still reasonable compared with LOS. If you want young, nice, unspoiled, cheap today, like PP 10 years ago, go to Rangoon.
I have not posted on this board for quite awhile. Every time I read it, I get so disgusted by the stupidity being posted that I just log back out, but this time I have decided not to do so. I have been living in Phnom Penh for a awhile now. The prices some people are paying has gotten ridiculous, but what is even more ridiculous is when the people who pay these stupid prices come on this board and insist the price they paid was truly the going rate, refusing to listen to people who know better. At best they might admit that cheaper prices are possible, but then say that is only for ugly girls. Bullshit. They can't admit that their knowledge of the scene and bargaining skills sucked and they just got taken advantage of.
If I offend you, too bad. You can look at my previous posts and see that I seldom make such strong comments. I wouldn't care about what people write, but it is finally starting to have an effect and there actually are some girls in the hostess bars who are refusing to go for less than $40 now, because one or two guys paid that or more. Thankfully, they are still in the very small minority, although the number of girls who will start by asking for that amount is growing rapidly. Most will rapidly come down in price as soon as you politely (and sometimes impolitely) tell them that there is no way you will pay that much.
Guys, you have every right to pay whatever you want. I don't like it when the two week millionaires overpay, but I would never say you don't have a right to. However, at least admit you were overpaying, and don't use any excuse like "she deserved it" or "I make that much in an hour back home." This is not the west. If these girls were not working in bars, they would make less than $100 per month in a factory or restaurant. The going rate for ST (outside of the brothels where it is still $5) is $10, with a few really good looking girls getting $15 in high season. For LT, the price is $20 -$25. This is for freelancers and many hostess bar girls. In some hostess bars, the girls will insist on $20 or even $25 for ST but this is only in bars where no distinction is made between a ST barfine and LT. By going with you, the girl is forfeiting her salary for the night and sometimes paying an additional fee to the bar, whether you want her all night or for an hour. I have never paid more, and nobody has ever been pissed off, at least not when I paid the upper number of the ranges I have given, and usually not when I paid the lower. I'm not grandfathered or getting special "local" pricing, because I don't take girls all that often, I simply know what I am doing, and it does not take much. When friends come to visit, they have no problem paying the same price. Some even get better prices than what I have said, but they also get turned down a lot. However, since last high season, there have been a few hotties who have been paid $40 or $50 by enough guys that they have now decided everyone should pay that (except when rent is due). If you run into one of them, you can pay it or go to another bar where you will find someone just as hot for half the price. If people keep overpaying, that may not be true in a year or two, but thankfully it still is now.
For those who want to pay a fair price (not a lowball price that will only work with someone who is desperate) but just don't know how, the keys are to be firm and to know what the price should be. I generally advise that you never ask a price. If you feel that you really should arrange a price in advance (I almost never do), start by TELLING the girl how much you will give her, or at worst, name your price and ask if that is correct. (Be prepared for a potentially much more difficult bargaining session if you do this, however.) Use common sense. Don't discuss money loudly, where other girls can hear and it becomes a status/face issue. Don't ask a Khmer girl in front of other girls if she gives BJs. If she won't meet your price, or brings friends into the discussion to try to convince you the price is too low, just politely say sorry and ask to pay the bill (or you can be a jerk, like some guys are, but I don't recommend it). Odds are she will accept your price before you walk out of the bar, and leave smiling. If not, there is a good chance she will do so the next time you come in. BTW, I have had more than one girl throw a fit when I paid $10 for ST or $20 for LT, then call me a day later asking to come back over, or be all over me the next time I came into her bar. They never complain a second time. It is just a game they have learned to try to extract more money from you.
For Cyrcee, the ST price has gone up to $20 plus a $3 lady drink, unless you pay the $5 barfine, in which case you only need to pay the girl $15. (If anyone is still getting it for $15 with no barfine, please say so.)
Walkabout and Sharkey are indeed pretty grim these days, but I still see the occasional 8 or 9 on the rare times I go. Martini, however, is packed with hot Vietnamese girls from 9PM until 1AM or so, and you can find some attractive Khmers in there, as well. I can't imagine how anyone can think otherwise. The girls are mostly rather hardened pros, but they are definitely attractive. Heart of Darkness is a bit more hit and miss than it used to be, and pretty empty before 11PM. I assume it will start to fill up with backpackers again in October, as usual.
Hippie's comments about the prices holds good for those who live there. They can negotiate , refuse, move on and try another day. Also if you live there I am sure normal local girls can be had.
But for a guy on vacation for a few days it is different. We go there to find girls as quickly as possible and get down to business. We do not have time to troll around the whole city looking for cheap options. Ofcourse we do bargain
but at the same time if we like a certain girl yield a little on the price. Apart from few places there is no fixed price all over the world to take a girl home for fun. Everything is negotiated.
If these girls depend only on the local mongers all these bars and freelancer places will not have any business. I have taken girls from hostess bars and paid them $40 LT. If the girl stayed only ST I paid $20. Yes, I have had $10 girls ST from freelancer places but most of them are 4-5 scale. All pretty girls are in hostess places or other high priced venues.