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[QUOTE=WindAngel;2287658]Put it in a different context but similar situation, if I pick up a girl at Gusto for 300, after sex the girl demands 300 USD and I only want to pay 300 KCOP, are you saying that I have to pay 300 USD to the girl because it is common sense?[/QUOTE]If a girl quotes you "300" in Medellin, then it's pesos. I've spent three months a year there for four years now and it's never been any different. If she wants dollars she needs to say "dollars," otherwise she gets pesos, and as someone else said, they know how to say dollars. Just show some balls, something many girls are banking that you do not have, and you'll be better off. Show weakness, especially to Latin women, and that's where you invite problems.
Dollars are rarely used in Medellin, and it's only the biggest chumps that carry them. And any girl quoting simply "300" hoping to extract dollars in the end is up to no good anyway. She can still scam by denying she agreed to pesos, or scam some other way. Then she can just threaten to call the police or a crew of her straight razor wielding extended family members and the petrified gringo is running to the safe faster than her head can spin. Lololol.
P.S. Yes there are occasionally gringos killed in Medellin, but the typical scenarios are street robberies where the victim allegedly resisted. There's also been a few that were over drugged.
I think it is better for members to reply with improved approach than rejection.
[QUOTE=Midwest;2287929]The next thing out of your mouth should be "tres cientos mil pesos?" especially if you're at Gustos or La Isla & you're thinking with the little head. If you're talking with a casa or street girl, even if she meant 300 k COP, she better be quoting her weekly rate.[/QUOTE]I don't think one will have problem at La Isla because two things, it is not a Gringo club like Gusto. I was asked to pay in advance at the bar at La Isla when I was there. I saw Colombians did the same.
I think all the replies are just to change the condition to avoid replying the question.
If I rephrase the question, what if a girl wants 300 USD after and you don't have the agreement in writing, what would you do? I know one can reply like before, put it in writing, then I say, girl eats the paper the agreement is written on, what would you say? Take a picture of the agreement and send it to a friend? We can go on and on but the original question is never answered.
Waiting for late arrivals is the number one downside of the facebook scene. A close second is paying triple the casa fee. It is not very hard to compromise and get casa girls to come to your room.
[QUOTE=Chicafan;2287807]Reminds me of a joke a friend likes to tell to illustrate what he says is all you need to know about Latin women.
Girl says to her girlfriend "I think my boyfriend is cheating on me". The girfriend pauses, looks curiously at her, then asks "which boyfriend?
I am moving in your direction but wish I knew where are more casas. There must be 50 that are essentially hidden to most of us. Medellin is interesting and I like to be free to move around and explore. A casa to get the sex part out of the way works. A great session in my apartment with a good girl is appealing also. But the waiting around and structuring a day to be on time and ready for an apartment date is stressful at times and essentially reduces the amount of time I experience the city and culture. It's not "vacationy". It has taken me some time and reflection to see that clearly. I get a little frustrate if a girls says 7, which becomes 8 then arrives at 9. There have been days I wanted to relax for the day, see a girl late afternoon, then head out for the night and do whatever strikes me. But when 5 pm becomes 7 I end up wishing I had done a casa or some kind of session early but put it off because I believed I was only hours away from a girl arriving at my apartment. We've all been there..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SurfLooker;2288203][URL]https://www.instagram.com/tanikataa/[/URL][/QUOTE]I really can't stand girls who are very hot soil themselves with so much plastic surgery.
Fake asses are the biggest turn off for me.
Doesn't feel as good when you fuck them from the back and it smells quite awful since they can never properly wipe their asses. LOL. So spontaneous sex is out the question for them.
[QUOTE=WindAngel;2288265]I think it is better for members to reply with improved approach than rejection.
I don't think one will have problem at La Isla because two things, it is not a Gringo club like Gusto. I was asked to pay in advance at the bar at La Isla when I was there. I saw Colombians did the same.
I think all the replies are just to change the condition to avoid replying the question.
If I rephrase the question, what if a girl wants 300 USD after and you don't have the agreement in writing, what would you do? I know one can reply like before, put it in writing, then I say, girl eats the paper the agreement is written on, what would you say? Take a picture of the agreement and send it to a friend? We can go on and on but the original question is never answered.[/QUOTE]The original question assumes a complete rookie did something stupid. Correction, did a few stupid things. 1. he went to Medellin without doing any research. 2. he accepted a initial, well above standard rate offer (in pesos). 3. he never confirmed the price.
Any answers don't really matter, because that person will never see them. If they were the type to read the forums, they would have 1. Probably have avoided Gusto, or just got the girl's number and negotiated a better deal. 2. Confirmed the price, because he would know many girls in Gusto ask for dollars from gringos.
But, let's say it happens and I happen to walk up in the middle of the heated argument between the girl and the GTC (Google Translate Commando). First thing, I get her side of the story. Next I get his side. I explain each side to the other. Then, because I'm a nice guy, I'll explain to her that he doesn't have dollars, he has pesos, and he doesn't have that much money. I'll tell her that I will get him to pay what he can and I will tell her to say "dolares" next time.
Then, I'll tell him that he fucked up. I'll explain the importance of clarifying the price and ask how much he has. I'll get him a rate between the 300 k he thought and the 900 k she wanted. He'll pay more than 300 k. She'll get less than 900 k and he will have learned a lesson. Both will walk away without any trouble.
Then, if I like her look, I'll get her number and have her for 150-200 k.
Now assuming someone doesn't come along to rescue the GTC, he's on his own. If she makes enough noise, security or the police are likely to show up. Whose side will they take? If he's lucky he gets away with paying 500 k. If he's unlucky. Worst case, she tells the cop she's not of age, that she's using her cousin's cedula and that he knew she was only 16.
Any time you let a situation escalate to the point where police are involved, you're swimming with the sharks.
So, the final answer is:
1. he needs to keep the situation calm.
2. he needs to explain the confusion.
3. he needs to work out a deal that she will accept.
If he can talk her into 300 k, great. If she's not budging off of $300, he's better off paying it, than risking an escalation.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2288269]Waiting for late arrivals is the number one downside of the facebook scene. A close second is paying triple the casa fee. It is not very hard to compromise and get casa girls to come to your room.[/QUOTE]The voice of wisdom.
Facebook does present challenges. I overcome them by knowing the game. First, I schedule in advance. Usually on the same day, sometimes a day or two before. I keep in regular communication so they don't forget. I also set a time 30 minutes earlier than I want and expect arrival 30 minutes after. Finally, I let them know that it's not a timed event. They'll be with me for more than an hour. Most of them I keep for about 2 hours, some have spent 4 or more hours and 1 spent the night. That's for 3 or 4 times the casa rate for 30 minutes (or for the 60 minutes price at Energy).
However, there are times when I just want a quick encounter. I can hit 3 or 4 casas, have a few beers while looking for the right girl. With travel time, I'm eating up about 2 hours and spending 60 k-70 k.
There's a hidden advantage with Facebook, or with having a lot of girls in your WhatsApp, and with keeping some basic communication open, especially for guys who spend long stretches in Medellin. Occasionally a girl will hit you up because she's bored, or because she's desperate. Maybe she's fighting with her mom and wants to get out of the house. Bargains occasionally pop up. For taxi fare and not much more, you can have her company for several hours.
Of course, this requires developing some sort of connection with the girls, beyond the sex. Some guys don't want that. Some, myself included, think it enhances the experience.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2288274]I really can't stand girls who are very hot soil themselves with so much plastic surgery.
Fake asses are the biggest turn off for me.
Doesn't feel as good when you fuck them from the back and it smells quite awful since they can never properly wipe their asses. LOL. So spontaneous sex is out the question for them.[/QUOTE]I used to be fine with fake boobs but plasticity is way overdone in Colombia with some chicas looking like caricatures and is a turn off.
For those who read my report a few pages back I mentioned I took a shared taxi from the airport to Laureles when I arrived. Without Google after I landed, and without knowledge of even their existence before this trip, I probably overpaid. It should be 75 k / number of riders according to a website I found later. Now, I'm not sure if they will take that amount since it was midnight and there weren't many taxis there in the first place so they have more pricing power than I did. But I'm guessing ballpark 25-30 k for 3 riders would have been acceptable even if they ask for more in the beginning.
On to another topic though.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2288269]Waiting for late arrivals is the number one downside of the facebook scene. A close second is paying triple the casa fee. It is not very hard to compromise and get casa girls to come to your room.[/QUOTE]If you want to avoid the wait and you want them to come to your hotel / apartment now, you pay the exit fee, which negates any savings. What are the casas without exit fees if you know them?
If you read this forum you will see that Yakuza lets you take girls out without an exit fee. Read the forum and you will find other useful information.
[QUOTE=Tasss;2288389]For those who read my report a few pages back I mentioned I took a shared taxi from the airport to Laureles when I arrived. Without Google after I landed, and without knowledge of even their existence before this trip, I probably overpaid. It should be 75 k / number of riders according to a website I found later. Now, I'm not sure if they will take that amount since it was midnight and there weren't many taxis there in the first place so they have more pricing power than I did. But I'm guessing ballpark 25-30 k for 3 riders would have been acceptable even if they ask for more in the beginning.
On to another topic though.
If you want to avoid the wait and you want them to come to your hotel / apartment now, you pay the exit fee, which negates any savings. What are the casas without exit fees if you know them?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tasss;2288389]For those who read my report a few pages back I mentioned I took a shared taxi from the airport to Laureles when I arrived. Without Google after I landed, and without knowledge of even their existence before this trip, I probably overpaid. It should be 75 k / number of riders according to a website I found later. Now, I'm not sure if they will take that amount since it was midnight and there weren't many taxis there in the first place so they have more pricing power than I did. But I'm guessing ballpark 25-30 k for 3 riders would have been acceptable even if they ask for more in the beginning.
On to another topic though.
If you want to avoid the wait and you want them to come to your hotel / apartment now, you pay the exit fee, which negates any savings. What are the casas without exit fees if you know them?[/QUOTE]Hi Tasss, I think what Knowledge meant was that he goes to casas, finds a girl he likes and gets her number for a later session. I assume he first takes them for a road test on location only to connect with them afterwards if there's a connection. In my experience girls can easily get out of their shifts by simply not showing up or using some bullshit excuse (sick mothers and kids are alwasy a classic). Especially as they'll make more with you than on her average week.
If I am wrong about the above, apologies, it's just what I do.
What's the best method for changing currency? Is it through the cambio exchange? Or the bank or ATM? The rate I got at the airport was 2800 per 1 usd. If its the bank or ATM? Which one? Thanks for any info.
Never ever ever ever change money at the airport! Best exchange rate will be from a Bank ATM that is in the bank. Some will have hight limits than others. Thus minimizing the ATM fees always pull out the max you can.
[QUOTE=CeeJay1;2288457]What's the best method for changing currency? Is it through the cambio exchange? Or the bank or ATM? The rate I got at the airport was 2800 per 1 usd. If its the bank or ATM? Which one? Thanks for any info.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=WindAngel;2288265]I think it is better for members to reply with improved approach than rejection.
I don't think one will have problem at La Isla because two things, it is not a Gringo club like Gusto. I was asked to pay in advance at the bar at La Isla when I was there. I saw Colombians did the same.
I think all the replies are just to change the condition to avoid replying the question.
If I rephrase the question, what if a girl wants 300 USD after and you don't have the agreement in writing, what would you do? I know one can reply like before, put it in writing, then I say, girl eats the paper the agreement is written on, what would you say? Take a picture of the agreement and send it to a friend? We can go on and on but the original question is never answered.[/QUOTE]Some of the problem with your dissatisfaction with the replies is that you are dealing with a hypothetical where any legit confusion is very unlikely to take place. Dollars are so uncommonly used, and aren't even dispensed in the ATMs in Medellin. If she wants them it's her job to clarify, not your's. If the agreement was 300 and she demands dollars at the end, laugh and say "what dollars?" Then offer the agreed upon amount which by default is pesos. Don't give into extortion. Strength earns respect. Wimping out makes it harder on you as well as the Gringos that follow. Plus a girl like that is going to try and extort regardless of the angle, regardless of any unwarranted clarifications from you. They extort because it works, and it works more often because of bad advise given. If she wants to call the police offer to dial the number for her. If they arrive and make some sort of demand then you can re-evaluate, but in the meantime man up.
BTW this "I'm calling the police" racket has been common in Costa Rica for years now, and taught on day one in puta school. You can thank the timid Gringos for it. You can thank the same the more it catches on in Medellin.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2288274]I really can't stand girls who are very hot soil themselves with so much plastic surgery.
Fake asses are the biggest turn off for me.
Doesn't feel as good when you fuck them from the back and it smells quite awful since they can never properly wipe their asses. LOL. So spontaneous sex is out the question for them.[/QUOTE]Yes true.
Mansion hotel-young chica, braces, not much plastic.
Fase Dos, La Isla. Plastic chicas, big boob butt.
Facebook and Instrgram chicas. Hot facebook girls with big boob and asses no use facebook much. Most modelo protocol all use Instagram now.
Casa. Less plastic.
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