Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Allover;1590773]Ralph:

Is Seiki 21 still open? I remember it being very difficult to find P4 P as a white man in Japan. If I lived in JApan I would try to get over to BKK as often as possible.[/QUOTE]I have not heard the name on the Japan board so it might well be closed. P4 P sex has improved greatly for white men in Japan during the 16 years I have lived here but it is still expensive and Japanese language skills are often necessary. I certainly like BKK for a change of pace, sort of like a kid in a candy store with a wad of cash.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1590783]I think some guys get a bit warped wanting to do repulsive things due to copying porn movies.[/QUOTE]I met a super hot girl at NPL who said she liked to watch animal porn. Not my cup of tea. As a travel agent she spoke excellent English, but had quite a lot of attitude.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1590783]my most memorable girls were due to the sheer passion that they approached sex and coupled in one case with abnormally stunning looks, so that she could be labelled a dream girl. i never had the chance to get bored with her...[/QUOTE]I find girls who act passionate, whether fake or not, are often a distraction that impedes my own enjoyment of the session. I can also do without the claws or teeth digging into my body, lips & genital areas.

Those who want a passionate GFE are advised to seek out PI girls outside of the PI. Such is relatively rare in places like LOS, SG, and China.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1590783]There is one girl I still enjoy to occasionally fuck after nearly 20 years, and she wasn't a dream girl. She was once a hooker but retired many years ago, but still likes to get a bit of variety from her regular Partner. So we have a date once in a while for dinner and sex. I don't have a strong need to make every sex session totally unique. i dont see why guys get bored so easily. i do have some things i might do in sex that surprises girls though, like differences from all other guys, certainly not following a porn recipe.[/QUOTE]Evidently she's bored enough in her sex life to engage at least one other partner from her regular.

As I see it sex is like eating food. If you're hungry, you eat. If not, you don't. If you're bored with eating steak every day, you try something else.

Personally I like sex every day, but most of the time by myself. A big part of the reason for that is that people, even hookers you see for only an hour or a few, can get on your nerves. IOW they easily bore me.

Secondly, banging away in missionary for 2 hours a day would surely mess up my arms & dick head even more than they already are. Masturbation using the shaft is a better idea. This speaks to the health issues I refered to in another post, which was not about my general state of health, fitness or diet.

Third, if I'm with a girl, I'm only seeing one body engaged in a few activities. That's boring relative to having an autoerotic porn session seeing hundreds of history's most sexy bods doing everything imaginable under the sun.

The monetary savings & STI safety are added bonuses, besides avoiding all the hassles necessary to preparing for a happy time with a girl.

Quality rather than quantity of P4 P sessions has become increasingly important. I don't mind shelling out more if I can get what I want, namely a mind blowing erotic experience with a fun friendly female. The average vanilla ho hum doesn't cut it anymore, except maybe to satisfy some craving for body contact about once a week.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1590783]Some things that are nice may be just not dirty enough for porn. Like i don't see two girls tongues probing one guy's mouth at the same time in porn. However i think its great. I am not going to give away my more unusual secret practices. I like to be unique without any copy cats. but not great at going the distance. She seems exhausted after about 6 to 8 orgasms when I only get one.[/QUOTE]It seems you haven't watched much. The example given is there in porn. There is so much of it it would take one person many lifetimes to see it all.

I hit a few massage places that don't get reported on too frequently, before hitting the GoGo's on my first few days. The first was the Top Inn between Soi 4 and Soi 6, right on Sukhumvit. It's close to the Majestic Suites. I had "Bun"? Should have had her spell her name on the card. Nice massage and HE. Very sensual. She's not a model, but she's cute enough and did a great job with the massage. She hit me with a 1,500 baht quote for the HE, and I rolled my eyes and got her down to the market rate. That night I made a late night run through Soi Cowboy, with a stop at several bars and ending with a barfine at Bacarra.

On day two, I stopped in at MM Massage on Soi 23, which is next to Manisara Massage and that cluster of Oily's. It was early, about 10 am. Na was sitting at the entrance door and caught my eye. She was cute. I got the massage with a great finish. Lot's of teasing before the flip. Repeat worthy, but it's BKK and there is rarely ever enough time for a repeat. Too many places to try! LOL! That night I hit NEP and ended up at Rainbow 4. Selected number 51. What a rockin' body. Had a great night.

On day three I went to Otemachi Shoji on Soi 24/1. The sister shop is right across from it. I think the name was Premium massage. I opted for the Jacuzzi room, which was basically a smaller version of what you see in the Soapies. She did the wash routine. This place is targeting the Japanese market, with the OL (office lady) uniforms. I chose Mei. She has a bubbly personality and was really fun to be with. I will circle back to her if I have a chance. The rooms are nice, great lineup (not a huge selection, but I would have only passed on one of the eight or so in the lobby). A hottie walked in right after I made my selection, but no regrets with my choice. This place is pricey at 2.8K baht and 3K baht if you want the Jacuzzi room.

Somewhere between these stops on the first three days, I had May at Bamboo massage on Soi 8. May was nice and aimed to please. I asked for the lotion massage, which is similar to a Nuru massage. B2B massage, before the FS. Hard to beat the 2K baht price point for this place, considering the service levels. I was looking for the On8 hotel, which I don't recall on prior visits and could not place on a Google map street level search. Now I know why. It's in the Soi right across from Bamboo Massage. I hear the rooms are small, but it's right next to the Nana BTS.

I did a walk through of Patpong and it was dead. Soi Thaniya looked slow. I came across Geisha massage on an internet search, and may try that next. It's on Soi 33. If anyone has any intel on this place, that would be great. I also spent some time in the NEP courtyard about 7 pm, before the action started. Met one of the bartenders. I can't recall her name. I bought her a drink, just to strike up a conversation. Basic questions like when does the action start, how early do a lot of the girls come through, yada yada. Same questions I have asked before, but good to get current intel. With the curfew getting lifted just in time for my visit, I wanted to know if things were back to normal. A girl by the name of May or Mei. I think I met three or four May's / Mei's in the first three days! My first instinct was LB alert. I asked the bartender, and she said "no no, she is not LB". Looks like she had a nose job. Still has the bandages on her nose. If she's the real deal, she has a smokin' bod. I have her on my todo list, if I can confirm with someone else that I won't be in for any surprises! More fun to come!

Otemachi Shoji link:

[URL]http://www.thai-ol.com/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.thai-ol.com/gals/profile.php?gal_dir=mei[/URL]

So much to do, so little time!

AT2

[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2;1590942]I came across Geisha massage on an internet search, and may try that next. It's on Soi 33. If anyone has any intel on this place, that would be great. I also spent some time in the NEP courtyard about 7 pm, before the action started. Met one of the bartenders. I can't recall her name. I bought her a drink, just to strike up a conversation. Basic questions like when does the action start, how early do a lot of the girls come through, yada yada. Same questions I have asked before, but good to get current intel. With the curfew getting lifted just in time for my visit, I wanted to know if things were back to normal. A girl by the name of May or Mei. I think I met three or four May's / Mei's in the first three days! My first instinct was LB alert. I asked the bartender, and she said "no no, she is not LB". Looks like she had a nose job. Still has the bandages on her nose. [/QUOTE]Geisha massage had some very cute girls a couple of years back, but I quit going there when the cuties left. "Guitar" was one I liked. I did enjoy body massage on the blow-up mattress there, when the air would stay in the mattress. I think you really just have to go in and check the girls line up. Have to admit some girls on website look to have potential (if we can trust the pics at all). Japan, Kristen, Malley (Malee), Giffy, and Lucky, however my taste may be very different to a Japanese taste. In the past the real girls were mostly not that good, with an exception or two.

May is a very common Thai (and western) girl name sounds similar to the English month of May (mouth slightly more closed). Another common name is Mai (means new) which rhymes with "die". Two different names that get confused by westerners, although really sound a lot different. Other common M names are Miaow (sound of cat), Maew (means cat), Maa (horse), Manee (jewel), Min (mint), Mat (Rhymes with cut), and Moo (piglet).

Some girls are also adopting Japanese style working names.

I also have problems with a lot of operated girls looking like Ladyboys, even though have spent a lot of time in Thailand over many years. I guess when girls are very plain looking, the Ops really don't help much, in fact the opposite. Have seen the odd girl with a good face and appalling silicone coconuts in Baccara, as an example. Also other girls with good body but "alien" face. Seems that highly adjusted looks is popular. The girl that most looked like a ladyboy in Baccara, got called out for a drink and maybe BF very quickly, so I must be the weird one. My German friend agreed though that she was "horrible". Like an alien, is my thought. Try Crazy House one day. Very popular with Japanese customers. Only a couple of faces in there look peculiar to me and also very few tit jobs. Even the girl with the bulbous nose and puffy face seems popular enough. I really don't understand the taste of some of the customers. She does dance like trying to put her pussy in your face. Doesn't work for me. I am long sighted. LOL. She just blocks my vision of the pretty ones.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1590991]<cut>Try Crazy House one day. Very popular with Japanese customers. Only a couple of faces in there look peculiar to me and also very few tit jobs. Even the girl with the bulbous nose and puffy face seems popular enough. I really don't understand the taste of some of the customers. She does dance like trying to put her pussy in your face. Doesn't work for me. I am long sighted. LOL. She just blocks my vision of the pretty ones.<cut>.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I hit Crazy House the first night. Nothing like seeing nude woman to get the motor running.

AT2.

[QUOTE=Allover;1590773]Ralph:

Is Seiki 21 still open? I remember it being very difficult to find P4 P as a white man in Japan. If I lived in JApan I would try to get over to BKK as often as possible.[/QUOTE]If you are talking about the blow-job place in Shibuya, it sadly closed a few years ago.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1590913]
Personally I like sex every day, but most of the time by myself. A big part of the reason for that is that people, even hookers you see for only an hour or a few, can get on your nerves. IOW they easily bore me.

Secondly, banging away in missionary for 2 hours a day would surely mess up my arms & dick head even more than they already are. Masturbation using the shaft is a better idea. This speaks to the health issues I refered to in another post, which was not about my general state of health, fitness or diet.

Third, if I'm with a girl, I'm only seeing one body engaged in a few activities. That's boring relative to having an autoerotic porn session seeing hundreds of history's most sexy bods doing everything imaginable under the sun.

The monetary savings & STI safety are added bonuses, besides avoiding all the hassles necessary to preparing for a happy time with a girl.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for your very interesting insights on autoerotic alternatives. IOW: you prefer wanking! BTW, how much do you have to pay yourself? Or do you get freebies?

[QUOTE=Bigstud;1591179]Thanks for your very interesting insights on autoerotic alternatives. IOW: you prefer wanking! BTW, how much do you have to pay yourself? Or do you get freebies?[/QUOTE]I know a guy that does the same as you all the time. He has never been out of his home country, and very few times out of his home city. He lives in his mom's basement. I sure will trade that for being with a boring chica once an awhile, the risk of STI, and fun and adventure of travel. Each to their own I guess. Must run getting ready for the start of another great circle trip Cuba in 2 weeks time, Colombia in September and Thailand in December, sure the hell beats blisters on a hand. Foto is what is waiting for me in Havana, at least that is what she said the last time I talked to her.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1590783]Like i don't see two girls tongues probing one guy's mouth at the same time in porn. However i think its great. I am not going to give away my more unusual secret practices. I like to be unique without any copy cats. but not great at going the distance. She seems exhausted after about 6 to 8 orgasms when I only get one.[/QUOTE]Two tongues in the mouth, I read about it somewhere not sure where maybe it the Kama Sutra. I do remember it was fully illustrated as it's not a straight forward maneuver and requires either a large mouth or small tongues. Incidentally rumor has it lips Jagger managed 6 at a session in Mexico. Have you ever tried two dicks in a single mouth, again not straight forward requiring either a big mouth or etc etc.

I totally agree with you Syzygies on keeping secret your unusual sexual practice. I say this because I too have a secret sexual practice which I picked up from an old retired geisha I met In Kyoto. Mine though may be a tad superior to yours as my lady usually has 10 to 12 orgasms between my own pops. As discussed is other posts orgasms vary in intensity so it's hard to say which is best but like yourself I am not giving away the formula.

[QUOTE=Allover;1590773]Ralph:

Is Seiki 21 still open? I remember it being very difficult to find P4 P as a white man in Japan. If I lived in JApan I would try to get over to BKK as often as possible.[/QUOTE]Seiki 21 closed a year or two ago.

AT2.

I hit Soi Cowboy for an evening few nights ago.

I started in Doll House and there were quite a lot of cute tho not stunning ladies on the stage. There was certainly more ladies than men so I figured that the market was in my favour. Some were topless and even naked. An overly eager waitress engaged me in conversation, made out she was there to help me have a good night and just let her know if I want to speak to a lady yada yada (Obviously just looking for tips). I saw one real cutie with a great smile, dancing a little more enthusiastically than most. I pointed her out to the waitress and she went away for what seemed like an age. Eventually she came back "that lady is with a customer. He leave soon and she can sit with you". At a dancer change I saw her leave the stage and go sit with a Japanese guy. He was buying *a lot* of lady drinks and drinks for himself so I figured he wouldn't be leaving anytime soon and of course the girl would be keen to milk the lady drink commission as much as she could. Never mind.

I started scouring the stage and paid a bit more interest to a girl I'd seen earlier, a taller, slim very dark skinned girl with breasts that were quite large for a Thai but very pert and in proportion. I caught her eye and smiled. She smiled back. I caught her eye again a few seconds later, smiled and waved. She came and sat with me. Can't remember her name now but she said she was 22 from Isaan (aren't they all). I buy her a lady drink and she starts rubbing my leg and dick. Good girl I love Bangkok! By way of return I rub her legs and put my hand down the back of her dress and feel her ass. A few empty but none-the-less true compliments about her looks and she's asking me to bar fine her. "How much" "2000". This is obviously the short time fee. I'm usually not a fan of short time as I like to take my time with a lady and don't like time pressure. "How much long time" "6000" WTF? I actually laughed out loud at this point "Way too expensive". I didn't even make an attempt at negotiation. I sent a text to a farang buddy who has more experience at this than me and his reply was "leave and go to Nana. LT 4000 max!" The girl sat with me playing with my leg and dick for a few more minutes. Maybe hoping I was going to enter negotiation or change my mind. The music changed and she had to go back on stage. I then left.

And went into Kiss. There was quite a few ladies, again more girls than customers. Thing is, there were 2 fat ones (I suppose to cater for guys who are into that, makes good business sense) and a few girls slightly above average looks. No stunners and no ugly ones. You could probably find more choice and better looks in most beers bars. I saw one girl who had a *very* pretty face but was very young looking. I caught her eye and she came and sat with with. I bought her the almost compulsory lady drink and chatted. She was more reserved than most gogo girls. She said she had been working there only one month. Her name was Den, only 18, from Bangkok and a university student. Too young for me. After a while it was her turn to dance again and she made sure to dance right in front of where I was sitting, getting a bit bolder with every beat, looking and smiling at me and making gestures with her body. I appreciated the effort but she was just too young for me. I paid the bar bill and left.

And went into Tilac. Which was had a lot of sexy ladies but even more customers. The place was seriously FULL, due to the fact that they were showing some world cup match! Not good odds. I just turned around and walked straight out and across the soi into another gogo. There was 4 average looking girls on stage and another 4 waiting their turn. I had a quick coke, left and went into Shark.

There was a lot of attractive girls on stage with a low number of customers. I ordered a drink and took in the view. I saw Poi who I banged short time back about 6 months ago on my previous and first visit to Shark. I looked at her but I thought she hadn't seen me. After a few minutes they changed dancers. Poi left the stage and went to the bar at the far side of the club and started talking with the bartender.

I saw a good looking girl dancing, caught her eye and waved her over. She came and sat with me. She said her name was "BB", 25 from Isaan. I bought her a lady drink. Next thing I know Poi has appeared from out of nowhere asking "do you remember me" and talking across BB as though she's not there. Women! They're just like cats, they'll ignore you until you pay attention to another then they'll be all over you. So I tell BB to move across to my right and Poi sits on my left. They're both now touching me. I'm like a temporary rockstar.

BB asks me if I want to go with her and I ask how much. She says 5000 long time. She even suggests I take both of them. I say my body and wallet can only afford 1! BB is not as hot as Poi and remember last time I was here, Poi's rates were 2500ST and 5000 LT.

Poi is also now getting more eager. I get the feeling she doesn't want to lose face by me taking another girl in front of her. So I say to Poi " you want to go? 4000 long time"? She says yes straight away without even thinking about it.

I turn back to BB tell her I'm leaving with Poi. She then asks me for a "tip" and I say "No I bought you a drink". BB then leaves. Poi says "wait here while I go change". While I'm waiting for Poi BB comes back and asks if I can give her "taxi money" which gets a very quick "no". WTF? She then says maybe we can go together next time I visit? Jesus!

I was absolutely astounded that Poi remembered me from one short time encounter 6 months before. I mean just how much farang dick must she taken in the intervening period?? These girls have great memories.

So anyway I head back to the hotel with Poi and she puts on a great performance. We shower together, she's very GFE, and she does her wonderful simple but effective body rub, blow job and lowering herself down onto my dick and banging away. I think Poi must have remembered what a lousy piece of ass I was on our first encounter, being half drunk first timer to Bangers and an easy 2500. This time I'm sober and this working girl's going to get it! She rides me until she's out of breath. I flip her over and go at her missionary. It's one of those nights where I'm not coming easily She asks if I'm close to finishing as she's already finished twice. She gets on all fours in front of me and guides me in and I bang her doggy. God I love her tiny dark skinned Isaan ass. I have to stop. I lay down beside her and start kissing her. She gets on top of me and rides me again. She's now starting to sound frustrated. " I just finish third time, when you finish". I flip her over and open her legs, but before I can enter her she makes me change condom as she thinks it's in danger of breaking. I then thrust back inside her and bang her as hard as I can for several minutes until I come.

Awesome! I ask her to give me her phone no and email address for next time I'm in Bangers. Obviously I'm thinking of accessing loyal customer rates and outside of the bar so no barfine next time I'm in town. That could easily save me 1000 baht a night.

Unfortunately the next morning Poi has gone from being an A+ to a D- fuck for the second round. Very rushed as though she has some pressing appointment, and not so GFE. Maybe she thinks I had more than my money's worth the night before? So I probably won't be calling her. Just before she left she left she gave me her phone no and email, having remembered that I asked her after round 1. Oh well. Competition is good all round clearly! If I go back to Shark I may have to BF another girl in front of Poi just to make the point about service quality?

One more thing I found quite entertaining... Poi told me that business has been a bit slow in her bar the last few weeks. Because of the curfew or the army? NO! Because customers are more interested in the world cup. She went on to tell me how one of her friends at work had been barfined long time by a customer a few night previously and when they got back to his room he sat in bed and watched 3 games back to back and hardly touched the girl! Jesus guys, c'mon!

[QUOTE=Sammyt;1591428] "How much long time" "6000" WTF? I actually laughed out loud at this point "Way too expensive". I didn't even make an attempt at negotiation. I sent a text to a farang buddy who has more experience at this than me and his reply was "leave and go to Nana. LT 4000 max!" The girl sat with me playing with my leg and dick for a few more minutes. Maybe hoping I was going to enter negotiation or change my mind. [/QUOTE]Some guys believe the girl should take 4000 for LT. However some won't. Some girls can do 3 STs in an evening, have 3 quick fucks, go home and get a good night's sleep. Desperate girls that have no customers will take the 4 K. Can't expect every girl to be the same.

One of my favourite bargirls is very reluctant to take LT from Friday through to Sunday as she has many customers, and can fit quite a few short times in. She will do LT for a very high rate of course. However she doesn't like to negotiate or state her price, so its easier for her just to say no LTs on Friday, Sat, Sun. She likes LT better on quite days like a Tuesday. She wants to maximise the money and keeping all the regulars happy that they get a chance, even if its only 2 hrs.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;1591317]
I totally agree with you Syzygies on keeping secret your unusual sexual practice. I say this because I too have a secret sexual practice which I picked up from an old retired geisha I met In Kyoto. Mine though may be a tad superior to yours as my lady usually has 10 to 12 orgasms between my own pops. As discussed is other posts orgasms vary in intensity so it's hard to say which is best but like yourself I am not giving away the formula.[/QUOTE]Sure my things are not necessarily supposed to be techniques as such. Just different things that a girl may have some appreciation of or just find different to the norm. Things that would never happen in porn for example. In porn guys are not really giving the girl a good service at all. Its more about just take what they want.

I haven't met too many girls that actually want to pop 10 to 12 times. That maybe because most of them are hookers. LOL. However my GF pops so easily (not requiring incredible technique) she may get close to that before complaining of exhaustion. I never tried to count them.

Your special super techniques are specially useful for girls that cum with great difficulty, I would think.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1590913]
I find girls who act passionate, whether fake or not, are often a distraction that impedes my own enjoyment of the session. I can also do without the claws or teeth digging into my body, lips & genital areas.
[/QUOTE]I do agree that girls can get too carried away in the sex. I am not into biting or clawing. Also my pace is slow. So I like girls that are passionate but not too powerful, and able to go with the flow too. However a girl getting herself off by riding me cowgirl and grinding her mound on me, is not distracting me at all. It has a very sexy feel for me.

I know the powerful girls can be popular with other guys but its not my style.

There are girls out there with techniques that will always be better than a wank. I know one or two girls with a squeeze box pussy. Try a session at Dr BJ with big soft tits brushing your balls while getting the DT BBBJ. Try the VIP session with body slide, or the Nuru, or a balls massage expert. There are some really special sensations that can be experienced.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1591443]Some guys believe the girl should take 4000 for LT. However some won't. Some girls can do 3 STs in an evening, have 3 quick fucks, go home and get a good night's sleep. Desperate girls that have no customers will take the 4 K. Can't expect every girl to be the same.

One of my favourite bargirls is very reluctant to take LT from Friday through to Sunday as she has many customers, and can fit quite a few short times in. She will do LT for a very high rate of course. However she doesn't like to negotiate or state her price, so its easier for her just to say no LTs on Friday, Sat, Sun. She likes LT better on quite days like a Tuesday. She wants to maximise the money and keeping all the regulars happy that they get a chance, even if its only 2 hrs.[/QUOTE]Honestly, I cannot remember ever having paid more than 3500 baht for LT with any girl from Suzie Wong. Perhaps I like girls that are not top of the market and they come at a discount.