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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2380130]PP would be slightly better than Soi 6 looks.[/QUOTE]Have you been in PP recently?
Actually the choices are very very slim at this time, most of the girls are not even lookable (at least on the riverside).
Soi6 was way better than this when I was there 10 days ago.
[QUOTE=Gajith;2381950]Please don't think like kids. Hygiene and smell are depend on individual, not based on nationality or passport.[/QUOTE]You are right. But when 8 out of 10 guys from a particular country are unhygienic, the you cannot blame the uneducated farm girl from concluding that the next 100 are also going to be unhygienic. That is how stereotypes are created. When a significant majority start behaving in a certain similar way.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2382276]Have you been in PP recently?
(at least on the riverside)[/QUOTE]An old time (3 years back) monger in the Cambodian soil. I had never tried picking girls from Riverside because I always had success from Darling Darling, Golden Sorya Complex and Pontoon. Have you ever tried these places?
[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2382291] That is how stereotypes are created. When a significant majority start behaving in a certain similar way.[/QUOTE]Agreed to your point, I also received feedback about the same subject, but it was years back. Then I realized, the girls started understanding this smell is belongs to individual rather than to the nationality. Sad to know, there are still some girls thinks like the old time.
Anyway, I will be in Thailand next week and will update my experience here.
In Pattaya for 4 days of fun. The first thing that happened was the Bell Travel bus cought fire in the engine on our way from the airport to Pattaya. Lots of smoke, but passengers were safely evacuated. Had a one hour delay or so waiting for a new bus, but arrived safely to hotel in LK Metro around 2 PM. Bell is normally safe and good, only 138 bath from airport with transfer to hotel.
Day one, October 17.
Went to some bars in LK Metro area / Soi Buakhao. A new rock bar just opposite Tree Town had a good Philippino band playing. Went for dinner at Witherspoon sportsbar and listen to the outstanding band playing there. Probably the best cover band in town right now. Many people out weather was nice. Found a gem at one of the Scooters bars. Agreed to meet her after work outside my hotel but she stood me up. Said she could not meet me after all. Well, it happens. Went to Destiny Go-go and they really had some talent. Then went to Lucifer disco on walking street around 3. 30 AM. Found a pretty girl there and she was willing to go right away. Took her to hotel and banged her in different positions. She was loud moaning and claimed she came 3 times. I was too drunk to come, but had a good time with her. She had to leave at 8 in the morning to go for work. Damage 2000 bath.
Day two, October 18.
Had some drinks with Bee outside Phoenix bar on LK Metro. She is only 20 years and been 1 month in Pattaya. Funny and pretty girl, but limited English. She told me barfine was 750 at that bar and normally the lady charge 1500 for ST and 3000 for LT. I considered for a while, but the night was still young. Went to Champagne go-go in LK Metro. Big bar and some good looking ladies there. Then popped into Kink on second floor, but could not find a seat. Very hands-on action in this place! Took motorbike to WS and headed for Dollhouse. Good action and many people, but girl quality just so-so. Then I go to Marine Disco. My first visit there even I have been to Pattaya maybe 20 times. After 5 minutes someone told me her friend like me. Really!? Well, her friend was Bee Bee and she was a lovely little spinner 25 years old. She used to work in the Secrets bar (I think it was in soi 14) where Scooters is now. Took her to the room and she really was into sex in all possible ways. What a treasure! Paid her 2000 bath the next day. Will repeat!
Pattaya have been a positive experience this time. I guess it is what you make of it. If you bring a positive attitude and are willing to spend you can get quality time here. And at the end it is what matters.
Will probably continue in the Cambodia / Phnom Penh thread.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2381962]But those prices were for bars and gogos. You are still good with 1000-1500 for discos like iBar, although some guys like to pay more.[/QUOTE]As I wrote, 3000 was the price the girls started off at and only budge slightly from. 1500 or even 1000 was what I was paying 2 years ago.
I consider myself a good negotiator. But ultimately how long do you want to stick around there bargaining them down? And to what level?
1000 there now? Good luck.
[QUOTE=Lanthano;2383133]As I wrote, 3000 was the price the girls started off at and only budge slightly from. 1500 or even 1000 was what I was paying 2 years ago.
I consider myself a good negotiator. But ultimately how long do you want to stick around there bargaining them down? And to what level?
1000 there now? Good luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the good luck. I can never get enough of that. But I have been paying 1000 for the last 11 years. Only in the last couple of years have I started giving 1200 sometimes. I have given 1500 exactly twice. Half of the time there is not even a need to negotiate because the girl will come without saying "how much you give me", and you just give her whatever the next day when she leaves. As always YMMV!
1000 seems reasonable when you consider most people might make 300 per day in a normal job. One of my chicks recently wanted to start fucking for money. She wanted me to find her a dependable babysitter that could stay with her kid all night. She said she would pay 300 for this. If she could possibly find some guy willing to pay 3000 like some chicks may ask, then she will be living the high life. I think her rent is 4000 per month.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2383142]Thanks for the good luck. I can never get enough of that. But I have been paying 1000 for the last 11 years. Only in the last couple of years have I started giving 1200 sometimes. I have given 1500 exactly twice. Half of the time there is not even a need to negotiate because the girl will come without saying "how much you give me", and you just give her whatever the next day when she leaves. As always YMMV!
1000 seems reasonable when you consider most people might make 300 per day in a normal job. One of my chicks recently wanted to start fucking for money. She wanted me to find her a dependable babysitter that could stay with her kid all night. She said she would pay 300 for this. If she could possibly find some guy willing to pay 3000 like some chicks may ask, then she will be living the high life. I think her rent is 4000 per month.[/QUOTE]No disrespect meant, but this certainly wasn't my experience. I don't think it was for others either that I spoke to.
What is reasonable is secondary, I can only say being there at low season two nights in a row, unlike 2 years prior, I was not able to get 1000 there.
If this was a one-off, and you are able to get it for 1000, all the power to you. I was not. Even had one girl walk out when she asked and I replied with that amount. Maybe not negotiating in advance maybe the key and just giving her 1000 after may work (done this before last trip) but getting her attention and getting her to leave with you without her asking isn't a given for me.
My personal advice to others from my recent trip is try 1000 at your own peril. But again, I am quite happy to be wrong and for you to tell me 1500 is overpaying. (just confirming, we are talking long time till midday, early afternoon, right?)
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2383142]Thanks for the good luck. I can never get enough of that. But I have been paying 1000 for the last 11 years. Only in the last couple of years have I started giving 1200 sometimes. I have given 1500 exactly twice. Half of the time there is not even a need to negotiate because the girl will come without saying "how much you give me", and you just give her whatever the next day when she leaves. As always YMMV!
...[/QUOTE]What does "whatever the next day" mean? Is it what she asks / asked for or is is what you deem adequate. Big difference here. I wouldn't plan to kick a girl out of my room with 1000 knowing she had in mind the deal was 2000 or 3000. I dont have the balls to do that.
Big difference too between waiting out until ANY girl agrees to 1000 and getting ONE particular girl you fancy to agree to such a price.
[QUOTE=Lanthano;2383143]My personal advice to others from my recent trip is try 1000 at your own peril. But again, I am quite happy to be wrong and for you to tell me 1500 is overpaying. (just confirming, we are talking long time till midday, early afternoon, right?)[/QUOTE]That is the exact time frame. I am not saying anything is wrong or that anything is overpaying, I am just saying that it is still possible to consistently get chicks at that price. I am by no means saying ALL either.
[QUOTE=XXL;2383145]What does "whatever the next day" mean? Is it what she asks / asked for or is is what you deem adequate. Big difference here. I wouldn't plan to kick a girl out of my room with 1000 knowing she had in mind the deal was 2000 or 3000. I dont have the balls to do that.[/QUOTE]I am not saying to cheat anyone, but if a girl does not ask about a price before, then 9.8 times out of 10 she is happy with 1000 or 1200. The times that chicks have said give me more after I have given that amount, I have always said no way, and they continue to ask to come back time and time again. Of course if you had agreed on a certain price then you have to hold up your end of the bargain.
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1000 seems reasonable when you consider most people might make 300 per day in a normal job.[/QUOTE]I know you and on and off reading your posts for 6-7 years, thanks for letting us know still we can say 1000. I can't remember when was my last visit but it should be within last 2 years. I never paid more than 1500 - 2000 for a long time girl and sometimes I managed to get 1000 for ST. Some massage girls, allowed me to fuck them for like 300 - 400 in addition to the massage cost. Let's see what will happen this time.
Apologies in advance, as I realize this is a report (and apparently Indian bashing) forum, but I don't see another logical section for "newer type" questions. I've spent 3 hours RTFF this morning and I still don't have a good sense as to what is available in these types of clubs (maybe I'm just an idiot.). They are interesting to me. But only to a point, unless there is an ability to procure a girl (preferably a submissive) and hang her upside down from the rafters and FF her (or something along the demented side like that! Is that the sort of thing that comes with a purchased package?
Thanks in advance for any help. Haven't been to Thailand in a while, as I developed a love of Medellin over the past 5 years. Picking up bar girls is good for a time or two for me, but I need some additional spice from time to time.
Hello all,
Long time dream come true and I'm finally going to Thailand!
20+ years mongering in US, DR, Mexico, Jamaica, Russia, Ukraine, Germany, Greece, Netherlands and recently Colombia, but couldn't allocate at least 10 days to go to Thailand. Finally I was able to allocate 2 weeks of vacation time, convince my friend and pull the trigger. As of now only airline tickets were bought arriving BKK Nov 24 and departing BKK Dec 7.
I was reading a forum a lot and know for sure that I need to visit Pattaya and Bangkok but have no idea how to split the time and which one should be first? My friend and I are white divorced men in our 50's in good shape and we want this trip to be not only mongering but touristy also. Probably 60/40 or 70/30 with tourism on the lower side LOL, so please advise what MUST to be seen and if I need to consider other places for couple days IE any island, Cambodia, etc.
Also need advice on accommodations do we need to book 2 hotel rooms or look for AirBnB with 2 bedrooms.
All advices and suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
AtVsebudetNY: All depends how well are you organized. Counting full days, half days, nights and transfer days may help. Some trips you have to book in advance, at least a day before your actual trip. When in Pattaya most of your sightseeing is local, that is your touristy stuff is half day. There is not much which will originate in Patts. You may consider 1 night 2 full days trip to Siem Reap, Cambodia, for example. Sites like [URL]viator.com[/URL] may help you to see what tourist options are available. I would recommend to plan 3 to 7 nights in Bangkok and you can fill enough tourism in those days, as well hit 3 major night areas and clubs. Seven days in Patts is enough to see all major attractions there.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2383142]Thanks for the good luck. I can never get enough of that. But I have been paying 1000 for the last 11 years. Only in the last couple of years have I started giving 1200 sometimes. I have given 1500 exactly twice[/QUOTE]I have tremendous respect for you Mr E, but out of curiosity I have to ask this.
If you paid 1000 for the past 11 years, doesn't that mean you were grossly overpaying for several years? Surely the daily wages 11 years back would not have been 300 ?