Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1593157]
Its very interesting that guys have generally always seen LT price as being less than double the ST price, and yet the modern day popular bargirl is considering that LT price should be double ST price, or even more. This causes girls to seem very reluctant to take LT at all, if they believe they can get 3 STs without much difficulty.[/QUOTE]Used to be 500 baht more than ST price. 1 k ST 1. 5 k LT. Many gals liked LT as they did not have to hustle so much and would usually get a meal or two out of it as well. And of course 15 years ago most gals were looking for long term relationships. Now they make so much money the last thing they want is a hubby, well until they are over 30 and reality starts to kick in.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1593157]Wow, thanks for the detail. Interesting that prices may have gone up the most when the Baht crashed. I had not thought of that possibility. I probably started at Chao Praya II Soapy in the late 90's and price was probably a little higher than your super cheap ones in Petchburi. When the Baht crashed, these Soapies seemed a hell of a lot cheaper. My currency was not in sync with US dollar, so my currency still buys a hell of a lot more Baht than my early times in Thailand.

You do confirm my suspicion that the really steep price rises in go-gos may have been more in the 90's than since 2000.

2 K is a common price for ST these days, but there are plenty of girls (in the top gogos) initially asking to get 2.5 K (negotiable), and some even going to 3 K depending on the popularity of the establishment, the "hotness" of the girl, and the types of customer the girl typically manages to get..[/QUOTE]I think the Crazy House ladies are right they are right, if I were a girl I would much prefer to fuck young guys, Japanese or not, than an old man like me, especially if they pay more.

The Farang size is a bit of a legend, you pay more and your dick will shrink. These ladies are used to toys that are bigger than your dick.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1593161]I hope everyone remembers that is Buddhist Asaalaha day (wien thien) today (11 July). So I guess bars may not be open, and Khao Phansaa day tomorrow (definitely no alcohol allowed for the holy day), where monks go into retreat.

Hope you all have fun with MPs instead, or have the girl phone numbers. I arrive back in Bangkok to see the bargirls on Monday, just missing the holidays.[/QUOTE]Will SC and NEP go gos remain open inspite of the no alcohol day tomorrow (Saturday)? I am not fussed about being served drinks (hardly drink) but it would be a bummer to see all of these places closed up.

P.s. What about Climax / Mixx etc? Can someone recommend any alternatives for tomorrow night in case both the Go-Gos or the clubs are likely to be closed.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1593157]Wow, thanks for the detail. Interesting that prices may have gone up the most when the Baht crashed. I had not thought of that possibility. I probably started at Chao Praya II Soapy in the late 90's and price was probably a little higher than your super cheap ones in Petchburi. [/QUOTE]Back in late '70's the fx rate was 40:1 and two full hour soapie at the top MP was 800 fishbowl and 1200 for sideline superstar. The latter usually had her own room, with super large jacuzzi and assortment of toys. My favorite back then was the old Bangkok Cozy, which was a glittzy place.

Back then, the girls 'took pride' in their work, LOL.

Went to Annies not to long ago. Late afternoon usually good time of day there. Things have changed. 2700 for a soapie, fishbowl only with about 6/7 average ladies no sideline at all and when asked mamasan said nothing coming later tonight. So prices there have gone up and selection down IMHO.

Just got back from Bangkok and what an amazing time I had. First a big thanks to the guys here. Cannot imagine how anyone ever managed Bangkok without ISG! My flight arrived from UK at around 330 pm and I was out with my luggage in about 45 minutes. I changed money at the Kasikorn Bank counter in the basement. That seemed to have the best rates. Also bought a SIM card. I had written to Bamboo beforehand to book Cheer for an overnight. Wanted to start with someone I was sure would be good service!

Reached my hotel at around 630 pm. Cheer was in my room at 8! Not the most stunning looks, but great body and great service. She also has a friendly personality so I had a great time. The service was GFE / pse. As soon as she came out of the shower (I had just showered the minute before she walked in) she pulled my towel, went down on her knees and started giving me a great BBBJ. Subsequent to that I remember there being a lots of fingering, reverse oral and sex (including anal). We then went out for dinner to place she picked (can't remember the name) and when we returned. Had some of the best sex ever. It was like being with a gf. I slowly undressed her. And we made love. She really gets into it and seems to enjoy herself. By then I was wiped out and slept. Woke up in the morning to the sound of the shower. So once she came out showered myself and then another round of great sex! She left around 9 am. I paid her the 5 k+1 k tip. Thankfully did not spend that kind of money again on a LT during the trip but I do not regret it. After she left, I went for breakfast.

A word about the hotel. I stayed at Dream on Soi 15. Great hotel, very girl friendly. Never made to feel awkward about it and decent breakfast as well. Paid just about 2 k per night.

After the breakfast I was still tired, so took another nap and then in the afternoon walked to Health Land and got a great 2 hour thai massage for 500 BHT. Post the massage I was fresh again so went to Cherry Massage and brought BB back with me to my room. Now she was a bit of a disappointment. Better looking than Cheer, a sweet soft personality as well but not much fingering and a little more reserved than I like my girls to be.

That night I went to Climax. As I walked in I saw this petite stunner, just about 5 ft, great tight body and a beautiful smile. I chatted her up, offered her a drink. At one point I asked her if she kissed and she grabbed my face and stuck her tongue into my mouth. I asked her for ST and she said yes. 1500 is what we agreed on. We were dancing together for some time and she held my hand put it on her wet pussy. Also started playing with me and so we quickly got out of there! Back in the hotel, she was a dynamite in bed (but no anal and that does not bother me). Lots of DFK, BBBJ, reverse oral and very spirited sex. She rode on me top, we did missionary, doggy and also some standing up leaning against the mirror. She was really good so I asked her if she would stay LT and she said yes. Agreed for 2500. It was almost 4 am by the time we slept. Woke up around 10, another round of great sex and she left at about 1130. I took her number, but unfortunately lost it. Looked for her again in Climax on subsequent days but could not find her. Her name was Joy.

That afternoon I happened to cross Beer Garden. Just popped in, out of curiosity and I think punting will never be the same for me again! Met the most amazing girl ever, and no I am not in love!

I got a drink, sat down and looked around didn't see anyone that interested me till I saw this girl sitting with a few friends in the corner towards the back. Went upto her and sat next to her. Given my brown skin was met with a little apprehension. But once I spoke I guess she figured my accent, asked me where I was from and when I said London suddenly seemed to relax. Later on we had some great conversations about Indians in Bangkok. But I guess enough has already been discussed about it here. Her name is Nok and she usually works from the BG. Is 5 ft5 ish, Chinese origin, good English, very sexy body, great ass and amazing friendly person. She agreed for 1500ST. We walked back to the hotel and then after the showers, the fun began. Another superstar in bed. Lots of kissing, great BBBJ, lovely sex and responds amazingly to DATY. Was full of very natural maoning and screaming and even came a couple of times. When we finished, it was around 5 pm and because I was having a great time. (Including some great conversations) with her I asked her for LT. She asked 3000 and I agreed.

That evening we went to togerher to Spanky's and SW. Also did Rainbow not to my taste. I wanted to take anothr girl for a lesbian session but it was too early to bf anyone so around midnight w went to Climax. Not many girls are up forma lesbian show and Nok with great enthusiasm helped looked for another girl. Finally we found one, she agreed for 1500ST and off we went to the hotel. Both girls really got into it, eating each other's pussy, sucking the nipples and one one point I had one sitting on me while the other was sucking me. Heaven! Nok made this girl come, and she suddenly started making excuses about how she had a friend waiting in Climax and she needed to leave. I was hoping to fuck her, but didn't force her to stay. Paid her off. Gave her no tip and then got going with Nok. Another session of great sex and afterwards when we were in the shower I asked her to stay back for another day.

The next day great sex in the morning and then we went sight seeing during the day, some more sex in the evening, great dinner, visit to a bar and then we tried Insomnia. The place was dead at around midnight so I cut my losses and went to Climax. We wanted to pick up another girl for a lesbian session but that didn't work out so we returned at around 1 and went to bed.

Next day Nok had to leave for her village she was going to see her son so she left around 10 am. Nok was just the complete package, great company, awesome in bed and genuinely a nice person. Never did she try to extarct more money out of me. Infact she would tell me not to take a taxi and to just walk as the place we were going to was close! I cannot recommend her enough. If you would like to see her, just to go BG and ask for her. Let her know Roy told you about her and I am sure she will be happy to hear that. I know she is already back in Bangkok and will be in BG tomorrow!

By late afternoon I was missing her and called her to see if she had a friend she could recommend. She said yes and said would call me a little while. She called me in 5 minutes and asked me to go to BG and meet with Min in about 30 minutes. She sent me Min's number and I called her to fix it up. In about 45 minutes I was in BG sitting with a very sexy Min. She is about 5 ft6, great boobs, nice ass. While Nok has a Chinese look to her Min is darker skin. But she is a lady. Very polished. She is quiter than Nok is but is a tigress in bed. You will hear her scream and bend into all kinds of shape if you hit it well. That night was spent with Min and the next day morning I had to leave.

I had planned on being with more girls, but I had such a great time with Nok and Min that didn't bother me. I am in touch with htem both. Min says she may be coming to London, so that would be great and if not I am sure I will see them both again in Bangkok!

Once again, thanks guys for answering all the questions, sharing your experirnces. If I can help in any way. Would love to!

Got quoted 3 K ST recently at Shark and almost choked on my water. She then offered to drop it to 2. 5 K as if that was a major concession.

For the record, I'm as attractive as she was.

Just a couple years ago I was regularly being quoted 2 K at everywhere except Baccara, which quickly fell to 1. 5 K on request.

Nightlife areas have mostly been really dead this year. Even Shark will usually just have a few Japanese guys sitting and staring blankly at the stage and not buying.

I've been getting a lot of 1000 bt sex at dinky massage parlors from girls who sit around bored all day until I walk by.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1593062]I don't want to hang out with them either, but I want skilled un-rushed service.

Prices are far more than double what they were 15 years ago. Can't point to many things that have inflated that much. And most wages are not that much more, see the shrinking middle class.[/QUOTE]The only prices I care about are the FL streetwalkers. Their rate hasn't changed since at least 2007 when I first came to LOS. 1000 baht ST. If I had opted for similar looks & service in my home Western country, it would have cost me 6 to 7 figures more than what I paid in LOS, if I could have found it at all. That's the only comparison that matters, not living in other people's wet dreams about 1960, 1975 or 1998.

Anyone that can't get "skilled un-rushed service" in 2014 hasn't been paying attention to ISG, needs to get out more or failed to keep a little black book over the years.

I've been back a week following three weeks in Bangkok and an unexpectedly long trip home.

I used up some Skymiles on a flight to LAX. From there I took Cathay Pacific to HKG and on to BKK. Cathay Pacific offers a premium economy class on some flights. After watching the promotional video on the website I decided to book it. It was a few hundred dollars more than regular economy. This turned out to be an excellent decision. Due to a change of equipment the premium economy class was not available on the HKG to BKK leg. I got a refund of a couple hundred dollars and an upgrade coupon that I used to take business class from LAX to HKG. Same thing happened with the HKG to LAX leg on the flight home so I got another free upgrade to business class on that leg. I love Cathay Pacific business class! Lots of good food, all the free booze I wanted, included Johnny Walker Gold, and a flat-bed to sleep on. My flight home from LAX was in high demand so I exchanged my seat for a redeye to JFK with a flight home the next morning and a voucher for US$1000. Same story at JFK where I traded my seat for vouchers for meals, a hotel room and US$1300. Got home 36 hours late but with US$2300 in vouchers for future flights. A lady working the desk in the SkyClub lounge at LAX told me retired people are adept at working these voucher offers. She claimed many travel extensively without ever paying for a ticket.

I stayed at the Sofitel Sukhumvit at a good rate, US$110 per night. At check in I asked for and received a free upgrade to a club room on the 28th floor. Comfortable room, very good breakfast buffet, friendly staff, good maid service, very good gym for a hotel and a convenient location. Will definitely stay there on my next trip. It appears I have been elevated one level in the Club Accor program because now I can book a room at this hotel for US$100 during high season.

My first night on the town was the Thursday just before curfew ended. Checked out Soi Cowboy and Crazy House around 8-9 pm. Soi Cowboy was dead. Crazy House was almost full. There were a couple of available seats when I walked in. The upstairs was empty. The downstairs stage was packed. Every lady on the stage was attractive, some were very attractive. A few girls wore G-strings with no tops. Most were completely naked. A few of the girls looked to be mid-teen. Most loooked late teen to mid-twenties. A couple looked to be around thirty. On several subsequent visits I did not see another lineup as stunning as on this night. One night the lineup was so poor I walked out. On a couple of occasions the lineup was not significantly better than in several of the bars I visited on Soi Cowboy. One of the Crazy House staff claimed that the youngest girls are mid-teens. She claimed Crazy House gets away with this because the real owner is a high ranking police officer. Because there is at least one dim-witted simpleton on this forum who doesn't realize that sometimes people repeat another person's statements without necessarily believing the statements to be true, let me be clear: I have no idea if this is true. I'm just repeating what I was told.

Thermae is next to my hotel. I stopped in there a couple of times and walked past it almost every night. By far the best looking girls I saw on this trip were there. Some were dolled up to appeal to the Japanese men. They did not appeal to me. No doubt I did not appeal to them. On two occasions, once mid-week and once on a Friday, I went inside, found it full of East Asian men and many, many very attractive ladies. It was clear the majority of them had no interest in this old farang. However, on both visits a couple dozen or more very attractive ladies made it clear they would be most happy to accompany me back to my hotel.

Overall it was a nice visit. One night was particularly fun.

My plan is to write a number of reports over the next week or so about my various mongering experiences.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1593341]The only prices I care about are the FL streetwalkers. Their rate hasn't changed since at least 2007 when I first came to LOS. 1000 baht ST. If I had opted for similar looks & service in my home Western country, it would have cost me 6 to 7 figures more than what I paid in LOS, if I could have found it at all. That's the only comparison that matters, not living in other people's wet dreams about 1960, 1975 or 1998.

Anyone that can't get "skilled un-rushed service" in 2014 hasn't been paying attention to ISG, needs to get out more or failed to keep a little black book over the years.[/QUOTE]Pink, I have lived in BKK for 15 years. Skilled un-rushed enthusiastic services was the norm then, it is not now. I would say out of every 100 gals 90 were great. Not the case today. It takes a lot of effort to find a decent looking gal that performs. Exception being the oilies. I stopped taking FL street gals after a 6 month run where I honestly booted 15 out of 20 gals. They were all in the wrong profession. Problems? No DFK, short BJs, constantly wiping their mouth on a towel during the BJ or wiping their mouths, no fingering, freaked out when I tried to lick their ass, telling me "you come now," etc. All of those are "your out of there" offenses in my book. Of course I never get angry. I just get up, get dressed, give the girl a small amount depending on how far things progressed and leave. I would not want a gal to do anything she does not want to do, but hey she is a sex worker. If she can't provide a GFE or a PSE then she is in the wrong biz. Personally I fault the punters who settle for poor performance and pay full fees for it. The excuse I hear is "its better than I can get back home. " Well, it will be exactly what you get back home if the trend continues and dudes don't accept poor performance.

Actually that is the only comparison that does not matter. This is not the West and what you would pay there is completely immaterial. Again see above.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1593341]Anyone that can't get "skilled un-rushed service" in 2014 hasn't been paying attention to ISG, needs to get out more or failed to keep a little black book over the years.[/QUOTE]And Pink, have a look at tptp76's description of sex with Cheer a few posts below. That pretty much sums up experiences with the vast majority of gals I took "back in the day. " It also sums up my expectations of every gal that I take with the exception of A levels. As I stated, maybe one in ten were not up for that type of sex. FLs, gogo gals, etc. Now you have to go to the oilies to have the same percentage chance of getting it. I was a FL guy back then as well. Had hundreds of gals out of Thermae pre-'07 before the complete Japanese takeover. There were none there till late '01.

[QUOTE=PaulKausch;1593380]
My first night on the town was the Thursday just before curfew ended. Checked out Soi Cowboy and Crazy House around 8-9 pm. Soi Cowboy was dead. Crazy House was almost full. There were a couple of available seats when I walked in. The upstairs was empty. The downstairs stage was packed. Every lady on the stage was attractive, some were very attractive. A few girls wore G-strings with no tops. Most were completely naked. A few of the girls looked to be mid-teen. Most loooked late teen to mid-twenties. A couple looked to be around thirty. On several subsequent visits I did not see another lineup as stunning as on this night. One night the lineup was so poor I walked out. On a couple of occasions the lineup was not significantly better than in several of the bars I visited on Soi Cowboy. One of the Crazy House staff claimed that the youngest girls are mid-teens. She claimed Crazy House gets away with this because the real owner is a high ranking police officer. Because there is at least one dim-witted simpleton on this forum who doesn't realize that sometimes people repeat another person's statements without necessarily believing the statements to be true, let me be clear: I have no idea if this is true. I'm just repeating what I was told.
[/QUOTE]Yes we just call it a "rumour" when its hearsay, and what you actually see are "experiences". I never saw girls in Crazy House wearing G strings so that was weird. Probably temporary measure. The line up can vary, and deteriorates when late. In general the line up has gone down hill over time in that there are some relatively ordinary girls and even a couple of ugly ones. Fortunately there are still some very superior looking girls there.

I don't BF girls there so often, but have sometimes. 2 were good, most average and one looked good but very poor. YMMV.

[QUOTE=Tptp76;1593241]
Reached my hotel at around 630 pm. Cheer was in my room at 8! Not the most stunning looks, but great body and great service. She also has a friendly personality so I had a great time. The service was GFE / pse. [/QUOTE]I took Chia / Cheer at Mango once. Although service was good (could not be faulted), in the end she just didn't have the looks and sex appeal to really enthuse me, so I never repeated. I must be the crazy one who is very looks oriented. So no matter how good the service is, I really need a lot more pretty and a sleek sexy body is best for me.

I did do Cat and Cherry at Mango several times, as their looks appealed more, without being stunning. Cat was not quite slim but acceptable and cute face.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1593341]The only prices I care about are the FL streetwalkers. Their rate hasn't changed since at least 2007 when I first came to LOS. 1000 baht ST. [/QUOTE]I share your preference. The 1000 baht price has not changed, but in 2007 it was a no-negotiation price that got you a good looking under-30 streetwalker who'd usually perform well, for 2 shots if you asked. These days, 1 k is the rock-bottom price at Sukhumwit, taken by uglier girls, and only reluctantly after they try to negotiate, realize their prospects are grim and ain't getting more. The scene has gone down the drain in terms of average quality and numbers too.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1593341]If I had opted for similar looks & service in my home Western country, it would have cost me 6 to 7 figures more than what I paid in LOS, if I could have found it at all. [/QUOTE]Comparison only holds for sex deserts like the US / UK / Saudi Arabia. The West includes places like Frankfurt where 30 euro (1200 baht) gets you laid, although for something decent you need to shell out 2-4 times that. To be honest, Sukhumwit freelancers are not even close to good looking, so looks are not a major sticking point, though service is still usually better in Thailand.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1593341]Anyone that can't get "skilled un-rushed service" in 2014 hasn't been paying attention to ISG, needs to get out more or failed to keep a little black book over the years.[/QUOTE]Of course you can still get it from the repeats or oilies. But it used to be the 90% chance of getting it from any girl you pick, and some mongers like me have a penchant for trying out new girls. If I wanted to stick to the same few girls over and over, the giks would do the job just fine (though this route takes more time and is not viable past a certain age).

[QUOTE=PaulKausch;1593380]I've been back a week following three weeks in Bangkok. Overall it was a nice visit. One night was particularly fun. My plan is to write a number of reports over the next week or so about my various mongering experiences.[/QUOTE]Hey Paul. It's good to hear from you stranger. I assumed your absence from the forum could only have meant you were having a great time in BKK. I am looking forward to reading about your experiences in the big Mango. I am in the middle of writing my own trip report. It is taking forever, but I am beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

I liked CH when I was there. Some of the CH girls are really hot and a couple of those girls got pretty wild in the bar trying to convince me to barfine them, which they succeeded in doing. I wish I was with those two CH girls right now! I visited Thermae a couple of times myself when I was in town, and although most of the girls seemed more than willing, I passed. I did not see anyone I had to have. I guess it was just not in the cards this trip.