Angeles City

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2789943]NS, are you talking photos of barfined girls? As in a hotel or resto (outside the bar)? Cameras have been verboten in AC and Burgos bars since before pandemic (possibly close to a decade). Are there bars allowing pics of girls inside? Which ones?

Separately from that, I found multiple barfine-able girls in almost every bar I was in late last year.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately westy no photos allowed inside the bars for as you say multiple years.

Maybe the bar owners want to hide the multiple fatties and oldies in order to keep the dream alive for the noobies or those that have not visited in years.

As always girls quality is in the eye of the beholder, maybe a late 30's or mid 40's chubbie plain jane girl is a dream come true for guys in their mid 60's or 70's-80's because she is half their age and young to them so maybe ok, for those of us that are in our late 40's or very early 50's then maybe not acceptable to us, lets face it if younger guys want fatty plain janes of middle age or similar age to themselves then might as well stay home as most can find such in their own country, normally for free.

As I have repeated countless times on my many barhops its not only me that does not see our type of girls in the bar but multiple angeles expat friends also don't see them, I very recently bar hopped on a very well known angeles bar owners birthday to multiple bars and his very words in most bars visited was (and I thought I was having a torrid time finding young slim barfineable girls to work in my bars, seems most others are finding it just as hard).

Happy for those that visit angeles and find multiple girls to their taste but unfortunately the same girls are not mine or other peoples taste, hence why I say it would be nice if trip reports of multiple beautiful young barfineble girls came with a photo if possible (does not have to be naked) so others can see what some call stunners or 7 8,9's.

In the absence of up to date angeles girl photos on mongering sites then I tend to beleive what I see with my own eyes on the streets and bars of angeles, what I see is the young koreans sometimes have a cutie on their arm as for the older westerners, not seen a cutie on any of their arms in multiple years, some might call this being negative, I call it being honest.

I am in AC now, middle of a ten day trip. Tall, white Westerner, mid 60's, not afraid to spend money. Staying at ABC. A great hotel, designed for this lifestyle. Having alot of fun, but the Korean influence is real. I like the energy and selection of talent at the Korean Bars. Discovered I had to befriend the Mammasan, to see which ladies would only go with Koreans? On the young beautiful ones, the majority. One Mamasan told me to leave, in a nice way. Beautiful women can be had, but have to be able to play with the rules in this environment. When you do find the right lady, long time 85 bucks a steal in my mind. I take them to nightclub at Aqui, Bar in ABC. Great experience. I am not used to being turned down by Bargirls because of race, but it does happen here. I still think it can be alot of fun.

The club looks to be in the vicinity of the other dance clubs at the top end of Fields: maybe on the other side of the street. I see PaulyMack has returned to his former position he held at Hiso.

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It looks like the supposed 'new High Society' is open, called Eclipse, west of walking street. By the look of it, it's way less classy than Mega Dance, and fewer hot girls. Which probably means it is more freelancer friendly.

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[QUOTE=Goferring;2789957]For a first time visitor, with only a week (less travel time) it's hard to not recommend AC. Many other places are nicer, have fresher girls, are cheaper etc but you are going to loose days and money getting there and finding your feet etc. Save those areas for subsequent visits, if you decide that you like PI.

Are you going to Sabang for diving? If so, maybe investigate Subic. It's much closer and easier to get to from AC and has very good wreck diving.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Can't compare Sabang and Subic. Diving in Sabang is far better. Subic has a few wrecks but the visibility is often shit. Sabang has a lot of reefs, macro diving, wreck and clear water with better visibility. If diving is the main attraction, Sabang hands down. If bars are more important then maybe Subic.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2789858]Pool parties are back at Score Birds. Every third Sunday of the month.

It looks like the supposed 'new High Society' is open, called Eclipse, west of walking street. By the look of it, it's way less classy than Mega Dance, and fewer hot girls. Which probably means it is more freelancer friendly.
[/QUOTE]Can confirm this, although I wouldn't say quality is suffering. Was in there and out with a cutie within 30 minutes.

[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2789984]Thanks. I want to go to Sabang mostly for the island / beach vibe which I love.[/QUOTE]If you are going for the vibe then Sabang makes more sense both day and night. Subic is functional but almost soulless. Sabang bars have a lot more of a fun element to them. As Expat mentioned, the general diving is much better there too, unless you are a dedicated wreck diver, then Subic wins hands down.

It's a shame the float planes collapsed. It was a very scenic trip and well worth the price. Less than an hour for the same cost as a charter van / bunca. If you are limited in time, then I would still still go with the charter as it's door to door, rather than several steps, so saves you a lot of time and hassle.

I guess you know that Sabang is very small so stay close to the main bar alley and it's a five minute walk to everywhere.

Enjoy. G.

PS make sure you include Verde Island. Getting there and back means that the dive days are dependant on numbers and may not run every day but it lives up to its reputation. If you have quals to dive deep, then even more so. Just be prepared for strong currents

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2790128]If you are going for the vibe then Sabang makes more sense both day and night. Subic is functional but almost soulless. Sabang bars have a lot more of a fun element to them. As Expat mentioned, the general diving is much better there too, unless you are a dedicated wreck diver, then Subic wins hands down.

It's a shame the float planes collapsed. It was a very scenic trip and well worth the price. Less than an hour for the same cost as a charter van / bunca. If you are limited in time, then I would still still go with the charter as it's door to door, rather than several steps, so saves you a lot of time and hassle.

I guess you know that Sabang is very small so stay close to the main bar alley and it's a five minute walk to everywhere.

Enjoy. G.

PS make sure you include Verde Island. Getting there and back means that the dive days are dependant on numbers and may not run every day but it lives up to its reputation. If you have quals to dive deep, then even more so. Just be prepared for strong currents

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Thanks this is very helpful. I think I want to see Sabang. MNL and AC will give me enough late night partying.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2789998]Unfortunately westy no photos allowed inside the bars for as you say multiple years.

Maybe the bar owners want to hide the multiple fatties and oldies in order to keep the dream alive for the noobies or those that have not visited in years.[/QUOTE]Maybe mongers don't like being included in photos taken without their permission and plastered all over the internet.

[QUOTE=AceKicker;2789955]Just to clear some facts out I am 39 yrs old tall, blond w blue eyes usually those characteristics the girls here seem to like. What comes to alchohol consumption mine is pretty much next to zero and out of those 5 days I got myself drunk once.

I think there's been talk about this before but maybe my success doesn't automatically quarantee success for the next guy. All I know is I always treat the girls with huge respect, listen to their worries and generally be as nice as I can. Some of the girls I spoke even told me they always prefer a white dude over korean if they can.

Yes it is true for 1 true beauty there are that 20 not so attractive girls around. I wish there were a larger scale what comes to barfines since I feel it's a bit unfair to the not so pretty ones if their prices are put same level with the beauties.

Sorry for no photos like I said I respect the girls and their privacy plus some of them have become my long time friends even they already gotten old and are happily married with children all around the world.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your input, just a few thoughts if I may.

Reading through your trip report you quoted the bars that you visited which happen to all be the ex pat western orientated bars of angeles which cater to westerners, so yes being 39,tall with a full head of hair might be advantageous as most guys in these bars are elderly westerners, on the other hand if you had visited the korean bars that employ all the younger cuter girls then being 39,tall with hair might not be advantageous, why because the better looking girls of these bars are interested in the younger, tall, handsome very high spending korean customers only, as an example a friends expats sons were over from the uk a few weeks ago, the sons being early 20's,tall, fit with very handsome looks were getting zero attention from the cuties in the korean orientated bars when we visited.

Again you mentioned in your trip report that you did not encounter drinks only girls, well again drinks only girls do not work in the western orientated bars that you visited, hell most of the girls in those bars are lucky to get 1 drink bought for them throughout the night so obviously would not make good drinks only girls.

You also said that you saw girls drinking from beer bottles, again its down to a punters choice of bar and girl, choose the type of girl that rarely gets bought lady drinks then I'm sure she will be able to handle a beer, on the other hand choose the type of girl that has the looks, body and youth to be very popular for multiple drinks bought per hour then she will be on juice only for the obvious reason of not getting wasted and being of no use to the bar if she is puking her guts up in the cr.

As far as bar girls telling her punter she prefers a certain nationality then I think you will find that most bar girls tell a punter what she thinks he wants to hear, if american, she, loves americans, if british the same, if indian the same etc.

Not trying to knock your way of having fun or bar hopping, what's important is that you had fun, but as always one punters type of fun might not be anothers type of fun.

[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2790195]Maybe mongers don't like being included in photos taken without their permission and plastered all over the internet.[/QUOTE]I think you will find that on any given night on the streets of angeles one will encounter multiple utube bloggers filming all the mongers in angeles and plastering it all over the internet.

Unfortunately no way of keeping a low profile or hiding from the fact one is indeed in angeles and walking in a street that is geared to prostitution.

[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2790195]Maybe mongers don't like being included in photos taken without their permission and plastered all over the internet.[/QUOTE]Seriously, it is not about you Princess. That is true but hardly the correct answer. Pictures and videos give police agencies a reason to come visit the bar, save the girls, shut down the bar, and give police and officials money if the bar wishes to re-open. Video and pictures also attract Non-Government Organizations such as the International Justice Mission (IJM) who are a bunch of USA Religious lawyers to come visit. IJM cleaned up Cambodia about 20 years ago. I had some guys explain the before and after of that. Prostitution is illegal but tolerated in PI. It should not be flaunted. Philippines and ANgeles City officials want to be known as a tourist destination and not a sex tourist destination. Think of the slogan "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas".

I knew a street girl who was secretly video taped making introduction she should not have. Then a year later they set her up. She is doing life in prison. She was on the news program '60 Minutes' in the USA. Sadly, I doubt you even know what that is.

I read awhile back that there was an app that the Koreans are using to get the bar girls. But other nationalities are not made aware of it. I believe part of the reason is that the Koreans are more discrete versus some big mouth nationalities.

I've seen the same foreigner (thinner white guy) walking through Walking Street with his bicycle and holding his GoPro. Conveniently he's wearing a gator neck mask, hat and sunglasses, yet vlogging. I usually wear a mask when I go out doors in this area and if it's not too dark also sunglasses.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2790255]I think you will find that on any given night on the streets of angeles one will encounter multiple utube bloggers filming all the mongers in angeles and plastering it all over the internet.

Unfortunately no way of keeping a low profile or hiding from the fact one is indeed in angeles and walking in a street that is geared to prostitution.[/QUOTE]

Note: My posts tend to get rather long so I broke this up into parts.

Arrived in Manila in the early evening and waited through an extensive immigration line due to the number of flights from China arriving. Immigration was longer than I am used to in most countries. Many questions asked: How long are you here? Are you alone? Where are you staying? Show me your return ticket? Show me your hotel reservation? But in the end I got through. I haven't had a mongering trip since November so I decided I would go straight to the "mongering paradise" called Angeles City. I got money out of the ATM and got a sim card (1500 PHP).

Tip: Don't get a sim card from the airport unless you absolutely need to. I realized later that the plans at the airport are excessive and you are way better off just getting a sim card from a shop and loading it with a couple hundred pesos as needed.

I initially looked to get a coupon taxi but was quoted some price like 7000 PHP and instead opted for a meter taxi to Victory Liner Pasay (500 PHP) and then a bus to Dau. At the station, no need to wait in the ticket counter line. Just ask a bus driver and they will direct you to the correct bus. Pay on the bus ( 200 PHP). I believe all northward buses go direct to Dau and then proceed to other destinations. Got off at Dau and paid 150 PHP for a trike to Kandi Tower.

Checked in and had a couple of hours to kill so I grabbed a trike to walking street (100 PHP). Explored some of the bars and clubs there. It was valentines day so I didn't expect much. I saw a lot of girls with guys walking on the street so I assume they were barfined already. I went to Arabesque and watched a dance show. The girl dancing seemed cute so I called her over after the dance and got her a drink (mango juice). We talked for a bit and messed around but I really wasn't getting the vibe I wanted from her so I decided to bounce after paying my drink. Got some McDonalds on the way out and went back to my apartment to get some work done (I work US hours).

The next morning I woke up late and met up with fellow ISG member, JusRide during the day. Met at Penguin bar where he had a girl he already knew. Had a drink and bounced and looked around some of the other bars, nothing too interesting so I grabbed some food and went back to my apartment to relax. Joined JusRide at Dollhouse at around 7 PM where we each had a girl. I choose one of the dancers name Liveh (I guess I have a thing for dancers). Had a couple of beers and got her two lady drinks (gin and tonic) and barfined. I initially asked for long time but apparently it was only short time which explains why I got 1000 PHP back after I thought I paid the right amount. Total 4000 PHP short time, 900 PHP total for two beers and two lady drinks. Took a trike to my apartment where we talked for a bit longer. Girl has attractive from Mindinao, has two kids (1 and 2). We each showered and started some foreplay. She refused to DFK and gave me a BBBJ. Since this was the Phillipines I decided to try for some BBFS. It took very little convincing and she agreed (Please no arguments on this, I know the risks and I have been vaccinated for every STI possible as well as am on PrEP and always carry around antibiotics). She declined DATY though I think that was because I didn't have any soap in my shower. Afterwards she cleaned me up and got ready and left. I told her I paid for long time but she correctly said that I paid for short time which made me realize why I got my 1000 PHP back. She said she was going to Manila the next day to get her passport and that some of the girls were going off to Japan as dancers (allegedly no full service there). She was saying the pay was from 7000 to 10000 php per month. She may have been lying but it seems like too comprehensive of a lie for a bar girl. I had been talking with her for about two hours at that point and she really didn't feel like the sharpest tool in the shed to make up such a comprehensive lie. Escorted her out of the building and went on to do my regular job for the night.

I was busy with work on Thursday so I didn't go out at all.

[QUOTE=AsianPursuits;2790195]Maybe mongers don't like being included in photos taken without their permission and plastered all over the internet.[/QUOTE]Actually the girls are next in line. The girls do not want friends, family, and especially the Western Union fools sending them money to see them in a bars found in Angeles on Youtube.

Can you see how money is the main issue for the bars first, girls second, and mongers third?