FKK Dietzenbach

Me & a friend named Al recently returned from a 18 day Euro trip where we visited many clubs. I was unable to post any reports until I got home because I could not get my ISG password to work on my traveling laptop.

I will include in this report the supposed AO clubs we visited with detailed info about Dietz only. Details about other clubs will be in their section.

May 2- Luderland I saw Isabella & Al roomed with Erica. There were only 4 Cards in the display case. Only heathens there.

May 4 Dietz 10:30 AM. - Alice was not at the counter. 30 E entry. I was talking to Anais on the loveseat when she started laughing. She told me to look over my shoulder where some guy had put Dani on the High table and was now licking her. I went to the room with 23 year old Anais (new girl to me since my October visit) and she was very good GFE for me with just soft light kissing (my Choice). She never asked about my Religion but just showed me how Religious she was. BJ and 69 were good and she was a snug fit. 25 min was 30 E. Girls were charging 40 E last year. I thought she was worth it so I gave her 40 E that I had budgeted. When I returned Al told me while the guy was licking Dani on the Table another girl joined in and gave the guy a handjob at least. She was leaning over and Al could not tell from his angle if she also did a BJ. The guy finished on the other girls tits.

Al then went to a room with Suzi after I told him that I had a nice time with her last year. He said Suzi was good but he liked more DFK. Still he gave her a 7 out of 10. Al likes the wet slobbering kind of kissing with lots of tongue hockey. Al is old, bald and overweight.

After a rest I was sitting on a loveseat watching 22 year old new girl Mara. Dani came over and sat on her towel she left on the Loveseat. I asked Dani about Mara. She told me Mara was good. I told Dani I had a nice time in the room with her last year so maybe she should join me & Mara. We all went to the room. Mara looked a little confused on the bed so Dani took charge and said something to Mara. Dani moved down for a BJ and Mara began kissing me with soft wet passionate kisses. After a while I had Mara sit on my face so I could enjoy her other soft lips. While Mara made soft wimpering noises Dani was giving me a very nice BJ. After seeing Anais a short time before I knew it was going to take me longer to get going so I enjoyed tasty Mara for some time while Dani did the BJ with some egg sucking every once in a while.

When I was ready I told Dani to go for it and she moved on top for Asian Cowgirl. Mara was now getting very wet and holding my shoulders while making her soft moans. I wanted to be in Mara so bad so I have the girls move around so I could do Doggy with Mara. Dani moved next to Mara on her back and lifted her leg up on Mara's Back so I could reach down to play with her pussy at the same time. I entered Mara from behind. She was warm, wet, & snug. Just what I was looking for. I was getting close but I wanted more so I turned Mara over and leaned over her to lick & suck on her soft pink nipples while I calmed down some. When I was ready I mover down and entered her warm pussy again. After I finished I raised myself up on my elbows and looked down on Mara's very pretty face. She was smiling back at me so I asked her how she was doing. She replied " You Heavy". I got up and we went downstairs. I gave both girls 40 E to continue their Religious Studies.

Al went to the room with new girl Andra?. He said nice kissing on the loveseat but in the room she was a dead fish when kissing.

May 16 - We returned to Dietz. 30 E entry. Alice was back. I did a room with petite 22 year old new girl Alena. Again no Religion was ever discussed. We did light soft kissing before she did a nice BJ. Instead of 69 I had her move on her back so I could lick her. Alena made different kind of noises than the other girls when licked her. She loudly sucked in her breath every time my tongue hit her button. I let her pop. She sat up and asked if I wanted more BJ or to Fuck. I was ready to go so I told her to get on top. Alena then reached over for a paper towels and wiped her pussy. What the Fuck! I spent the time her wet and she wipes the extra lube away! Too late now. Alena tries getting on top but is having a little trouble getting us connected. I wanted to tell her she shouldn't have wiped herself before but I keep quiet. Finally she settled down on me. She is tight. Alena tries to move her pelvis up & down on my dick but she isn't so good at Cowgirl. I tell her we should do doggy and we move into position. She is even tighter in Doggy. I spend some time enjoying her firm grip on me. I then ask her to turn over and I apply some saliva to my Dick and I notice her doing the same to her pussy. After an easier connection we go at it. Alena then begins lightly digging her fingernails into my shoulders so I lift up legs a little and go at her hard and fast until I pop. I gave her 40 E.

Al saw Mara and came back saying the sex was good but not so much the kissing. I reminded him that her kissing with me was very good. Maybe he is too fussy?

May 17 - Villa Venus 15 E early entry. Al & I both saw petite Religious girl Emma. I paid 30 + 10 E.

Freude39 30 E entry I saw Antonia with Elena Duo 30+30 E Al passed on the Girls. He had a better time than I did. We leave.

Grimsberg- 15 E after 8 entry. I left my wallet in money locker at Freude because I couldn't wait to get out of there. Instead of Al coming.

Back with me I drop him off at he club. When I get back Al tells me not to bother paying the entry because this place is terrible and he wants.

To leave. In the car Al tells me he saw Angie for 30 E and she lost ALL her Religion!

May 18 - Villa Verena 30 E. I see Trina 25 & Jolena 28 30 E + 30 E. Al sees Rebekah 30 E. No Religion to be had there.

Again more details about the other club visits in a few days.

[QUOTE=Tp273;2324187]

May 2- Luderland I saw Isabella

May 4 Dietz 10:30 AM. - Alice was not at the counter. 30 E entry. I was talking to Anais on the loveseat when she started laughing.

She told me Mara was good.

I did a room with petite 22 year old new girl Alena.

Al saw Mara and came back saying the sex was good but not so much the kissing. I reminded him that her kissing with me was very good. Maybe he is too fussy?

Grimsberg- 15 E after 8 entry. I left my wallet in money locker at Freude because I couldn't wait to get out of there. Instead of Al coming.

Back with me I drop him off at he club. When I get back Al tells me not to bother paying the entry because this place is terrible and he wants.

May 18 - Al sees Rebekah 30 E. No Religion to be had there.

Again more details about the other club visits in a few days.[/QUOTE]Look forward to more reviews and glad you had a good trip, just missed each other, maybe see you next time.

Isabella at Luderland was a great choice, sadly she is on holiday now and won't be there for my upcoming trip but never know when they spend their money these girls have a habit of cutting holiday short!

Anais is a very fun girl, Mara is new but comes to the DayCare center rather seasoned but is a little picky and choosy so if you got good service she liked you!

Good choice in Rebekkah at Verena. Grimberg can be feast or famine, looks like you hit it on a bad day, a 'shit hole indeed with a hidden Queen' :D

And most importantly thanks for the honest writeup and respectful one of Alina, very good girl. She didn't deserve that bullshit false and heavily fabricated review she got the other day

BTW I too had log in issues with the ISG from my hotel too on my laptop; but never on my iphone. I had to repeatedly reset the password.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2324141]There are German forums which as specialise in reporting on ao. Other German forums prohibit any mention of ao, however heavily coded.

I personally no longer report in huge detail on the content of my sessions, but this has nothing to do with legal worries, but to do with ISG members talking to guys and girls about me to my detriment. Putting all the details in posts only aids such people.[/QUOTE]For my recent trip, I really debated doing reviews. It's weird, reviews have really helped me, but too many folks read a review and think they are guaranteed to enjoy a session with the reviewed girl. I mean, I may have a great time with girl X, you may hate it. Why? Chemistry, her bad mood, my great mood, day of the week, million things. The only real thing you can do is try, and be prepared for some meh sessions. I mean, the worst session I had (Sharks) was *still* sex with a pretty girl -- so on an absolute scale, it was pretty good.

I've learned to take reviews as a description of one possible outcome, not any sort of guarantee. Variety is the spice of life, and you have to be prepared for the bad to be open to the good. Sure, find what you like, but don't begrudge the universe its curve balls. Etc, etc. Preaching to the choir with you I believe.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2323741]Generally speaking, German boards frown on talks about AO. The ones that openly discuss it are the invite only forums. Perhaps you can fulfill your desire for open discussion of AO there.[/QUOTE]But the management of *this* board has been quite clear that they don't approve of poster X telling poster Y that certain things shouldn't be posted.

(Not that KK said that. He didn't. But it is the implication of your post quoted here.).

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2324136] ... Takedown is right, the Germans do frown about posting about AO or details however the Germans even thru a translator I can tell will refer or hint at it and beat around the Bush and it is still easy to tell what is going on they just do not spell it out.[/QUOTE]And thus the absurdity of it all.

There is no coded language that posters here *can* understand that FKK owners, workers, or the police *cannot* understand.

It's like on some boards (not here so far as I know) where newbies will be jumped on for mentioning specific prices. They are urged to talk about how many "roses" they brought the provider, or use a code like $$$ which is supposed to mean three hundred dollars. As if cops and owners, who deal in this realm all day, won't know exactly what is being said.

There is no middle ground here. There is no way to share information with posters without also sharing it with owners, workers, and cops.

So posters are just fooling themselves if they think they can post coded info that will benefit readers but baffle FKK operators, workers, or cops. Either the code will hide the meaning, in which case no information has been passed, or the code will be understandable, in which case just about everyone (intended or not) will receive the information.

[QUOTE=LaBambaBoy;2324217]Preaching to the choir with you I believe.[/QUOTE]Optimist would be a singer not a choir. A choir would be addressing several and in the case of Optimist he is one person with one handle not 50+ ! Optimist and myself both post under one handle and one handle only as all members should.

I think you miss a key point in Optimists posts that he doesn't give detailed reviews anymore due to ISG guys (one in particular) outing him and perhaps you should rather than attack him think about the guy down in Darmstadt who printed out all the reviews and / or on his smartphone decided to show all the girls reviews written by other members about them to gain their favour when in reality those girls do not give two shits about that guy but principle and the most cardinal sin of monger ethics were violated so please do not blow off the big issue with this silly spin. And Optimist and I weren't the only ones who had reviews used against them.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2324333]Optimist would be a singer not a choir. A choir would be addressing several and in the case of Optimist he is one person with one handle not 50+ ! Optimist and myself both post under one handle and one handle only as all members should.

I think you miss a key point in Optimists posts that he doesn't give detailed reviews anymore due to ISG guys (one in particular) outing him and perhaps you should rather than attack him think about the guy down in Darmstadt who printed out all the reviews and / or on his smartphone decided to show all the girls reviews written by other members about them to gain their favour when in reality those girls do not give two shits about that guy but principle and the most cardinal sin of monger ethics were violated so please do not blow off the big issue with this silly spin. And Optimist and I weren't the only ones who had reviews used against them.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]I meant no disrespect, the choir comment was not intended that way. I was not reacting to the decision to not post detailed reviews, I was just musing on my general. Lack of clarity as to how helpful they are. And a guy using them against you is obviously a huge dick move. I just got sidetracked thinking about detailed reviews in general and their utility.

[QUOTE=LaBambaBoy;2324342] And a guy using them against you is obviously a huge dick move. [/QUOTE]Glad we can agree on that :D

As I am the subject of discussion I will clarify to make it clear I don't give a monkey's about the universe's curve balls. I didn't get to where I am by bleating about life being unfair

What I said was "I personally no longer report in huge detail on the content of my sessions". This does not mean that I do not post detail. I write more detail than most members and think that reports of who, when, how, and where are a useful function for this forum. Of course such reports are only a snapshot reflecting many subjective variables and it is up to other members to use them or not, as they wish.

I try to include details like services offered / declined by a girl, pricing, physical characteristics, attitude and so on. What I include takes account of the following;.

1. Will the girl be offended if a guy reads the report to her (if my report is uncomplimentary I am not concerned about this)?

2. Will I become persona non-grata in the club if I am identified by a guy as the author of the reports?

3. Does the girl consent to the writing of reports (again, if my report is uncomplimentary I do not worry about this)?

4. Is there any possibility of what I write leading to trouble for a girl with the management or for a club with the authorities (for example, I would not write that a girl was taking cocaine). Although of course if I knew for sure that a girl was being trafficked or abused I would make sure I reported this in some way.

The issue of guys reading reports to girls in order to make themselves look like White Knights is as old as the hills. I have rarely suffered as a result of these would-be heroes, but have no wish to be embarrassed by them again. The last incident was a couple of years ago in Sharks when a guy read my reports to my favourite and I then received upset Whatsapp messages from the girl. The guy achieved his purpose and became a brief honey for the girl, but I noticed that he soon after started writing derogatory comments about her as his tactics did not achieve his wish of her coming under his control. Such guys are roaming the forum using dozens of fake handles to escape detection and previous bans and trying to befriend unsuspecting members who will then be at the very best, insulted behind their backs to other members, and at worst, put in embarrassing situations. That is the reality of White Knights who live in a fantasy world

So, as I said, my reports do not have the extent of detail they once had, but I hope they are in some tiny degree, of some use to some members. That is my motive for writing this. Not to bleat but in the hope of being of some use to others

[QUOTE=Optimist;2324542]The issue of guys reading reports to girls in order to make themselves look like White Knights is as old as the hills. I have rarely suffered as a result of these would-be heroes, but have no wish to be embarrassed by them again. The last incident was a couple of years ago in Sharks when a guy read my reports to my favourite and I then received upset Whatsapp messages from the girl. The guy achieved his purpose and became a brief honey for the girl, but I noticed that he soon after started writing derogatory comments about her as his tactics did not achieve his wish of her coming under his control. Such guys are roaming the forum using dozens of fake handles to escape detection and previous bans and trying to befriend unsuspecting members who will then be at the very best, insulted behind their backs to other members, and at worst, put in embarrassing situations. That is the reality of White Knights who live in a fantasy world[/QUOTE]Agree with you on all. The real damage is done to the WKs themselves not the guys they try to target or keep away from their favourites; these girls don't give a shit but doesn't make it right. We actually have what is called ' Pink Knights' here and they are women who register handles on the board also known as ' Man-dles' who than either write their own fake reviews or come to the defense of the clients who get attacked by other guys for White Knighting. Quite a headache for the mods which is probably why our boards that run on VBulletin and Invision for the most part have to constantly employ the software tracking programs or as is the case in the olden days when I wore a different hat on the boards (still hated hats in the bedroom) before all the updates caught the guys and girls who learned to skirt the tracking software the good old fashioned way.

Thru their writings and the more handles they had the more they crossed over and tripped over their own shoelaces; giving these posters ' the rope to hang themselves' we called it.

This board is a later version of VBulletin than we operated on and certainly has the software to catch these guys you refer to if they wish but the problem with tracking software is the culprits who abuse it usually stay one step ahead of the software, as the old saying goes ' Burglar alarms only keep the good guys out'.

Apologies for all the relevant but at first sight offtopic stuff.

I am looking forward to normal service being resumed and to my next visit in two weeks. Proper field reports will of course follow.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2324592]Apologies for all the relevant but at first sight offtopic stuff.

I am looking forward to normal service being resumed and to my next visit in two weeks. Proper field reports will of course follow.[/QUOTE]I agree with you Optimist.

I think we have driven home the point now and made others aware of the issue and I truly hope other guys will be more careful out there in deciding who to trust especially thru the PM system where we truly may not know who we are talking to.

Not sure if I will catch you on your trip I may be out of there a few days prior but would be great to see you again.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2324137]Gino02. I didn't realise you have been in our company so long. I bow to your experience. Were you using a different handle way back then?

I know I am only an amateur, but, without giving details of Alice's private life, I think you are incorrect[/QUOTE]Hey Optimist, yeah I started doing FKKs many years back, circa 2005. But haven't really posted much back then, besides few stupid questions here and there. I do not and never had any other handle, it's just not my thing in any board or social media, as it is I suck in writing LOL.

And yes, it's my bad to mention something personal about someone who's still there in the business even if in a different role. I broke my own code of conduct, and that was not right. Thanks for pointing it out.

KK, like you, I also wish that the gods of rental cars are always kind enough to upgrade me free to the otherwise very expensive Porsche rentals so that I can drive at 260-300 kmph speeds where allowed on Autobahn. But unfortunately it happens only when they run out of all other options (pretty much sold out in all categories) and the rental car manager is a kind hearted one; so far happened only 3 times in almost 15 years, though free upgrades to BMW 3 series or Mercedes C-class happens quite frequently, and you can easily push those suckers to 240-260 kmph. I will ping you next time any of these happens and we can drive together to our Queens in NRW. I'm yet to ever been to Atmos, Finca, Magnum, Oceans, or Luder Lounge - so that could be a mini adventure trip.

Luder Lounge in Dortmund is not a RTC but a day club, he's talking about Luderland or something like that.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2324692]KK, like you I also wish that the gods of rental cars are always kind enough to upgrade me free to the otherwise very expensive Porsches rentals so that I can drive at 260-300 kmph speeds where allowed on Autobahn. But unfortunately it happens only when they run out of all options (pretty much sold out in all categories)

I will ping you next time any of these happens and we drive together to our Queens in NRW. I'm yet to ever be to Finca or Louder Lounge, so that could be a mini adventure.[/QUOTE]I don't drive over there but the same has happened on the airlines with me the last few years. Once in a blue moon they will upgrade my seat due to overbooking. I usually always fly the Comfort+ seat in Delta (can not sit in economy seats for more than a 2-3 hour flight) but if they overbook the flight or have empty seats in Delta One or Comfort+ they will start from the back of the plane pushing folks in economy up to Comfort + and from Comfort+ up to Delta One which on the Airbus 747-300 (I think that is what most Delta flights are for medium / long hauls) that is really business class not first but still a lay flat seat, giant TV, great food and the bathroom (sometimes two) are always clean and the toilets spotless. Also first to exit the plane to avoid lines at immigration unless it is JFK in which case you are fucked regardless; amazing how Atlanta and Detroit get you thru in 1-15 minutes in JFK it takes 15 min just to get from the gate to immigration. Maybe I shouldn't complain people tell me Heathrow is worse and next trip I have 65 minutes to make a British Airways to British Airways connection so not sure if I have to go thru immigration or not since not leaving the terminal and instead do so in Germany. Fortunately 90% of the time I fly to Europe the planes arrive 15-60 minutes early.

We can do Finca first, fill up our bellies while there than I suggest we hit Luderland, fill up Isabella (if back) and / or Sarah (there) and hit the road up north in your Porche and find ourselves a fine steakhouse and order a meal rich in proteins to be able to properly vash our Queens the next morning. Actually I am quite sure can get Princess Di to the hotel. Her English stinks but occasionally it is a tad better ( not by much) in which case I know I am writing to her manager and he really isn't that bad a guy (he also responds quicker) , I have shared a smoke (his brand is much stronger, colorful and flavorful) and dined at Burger King with him so I think he will have no problem letting us tap his girl the night we check in.

By the way speaking of toilets what is with these European toilets with two square panels on top you flush others have one push button in the center, they all seem to do the same thing and why do some places have plastic bags to wrap up your used toilet paper and others don't?