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[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2797266]So while you repeatedly call everyone else to verify the beauty of their girls by posting photographic evidence, you refuse to do so yourself because you, a long-term resident in Angeles lest we forget, apparently hasn't got one single photo of a beautiful girl he's been with? Hmm.
And there we have it. You've frequently complained on this forum about poor service from girls and midnight runners (see the bottom quote, from your recent guide to Angeles) and yet it transpires that our resident 'expert' doesn't actually barfine. Why make things up?[/QUOTE]Not sure what part of this is a board that deals with bars and bargirls you do not understand.
Wanting to see photos of non bargirls that have normal jobs that I and guys choose to marry or live with is not on the agenda for obvious reasons, maybe joining one of the swingers forums might be better for your good self if such is important to you.
As far as runners one does not have to barfine to know if runners exist, just sit in any angeles bar and see how many girls return to the bar very shortly after accepting a long time barfine.
Ask any bar owner or bar manager and they will quite openly tell one that most of the bars money comes from lady drinks and girls running back to the bar for their next punter, after all girls and bars are in business to make money, the bigger and the quicker the money the better, why accept one lontime barfine when most bars and pretty bargirls can can rent out per hour, bars and girls are in their business for max profit and their own needs not to cater to their punters needs.
Anyways, still awaiting the photos from all your claimed barhops and stunners, guess it might be a long wait.
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10 k
[QUOTE=Gorrion;2795984]Hello, I continue to read this thread every day. Thank you all for the reports and information.
In July, I will be in Angeles City, but my first night in the Philippines will be spent in Makati near P. Burgos. What do you recommend for me to have company on that first night? Should I hire a freelancer or should I check out the bars in P. Burgos and barfine someone? I'm reading the latest posts and it seems like they're asking for a lot of money for a short-time in the bars. 10 K total for a short-time? Or am I mistaken?
Thanks again for the information and responses.[/QUOTE]10 K for some its a lot, for some its not much. But if time is a factor, you can easily just do a search online for escorts in manila, and it will cost you half. If you want the adventure, then the bars will provide that. Again if time is of concern, a taxi ride during traffic between LAC and makati is about an hour so plan accordingly.
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NS.
Your posts have always been the same ole stuff. Quite frankly I have never ever believe anything you have ever posted.
This will be the last of any communications we have regarding anything.
Don't worry you will still have a constant never ending newbie suckers to believe you.
Newbies "buyer beware". There are many satisfied AC mongers.
May you find a hole that is fitting for you.
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[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2797048]Why are photos important.
The reason photos are important when guys claim to find stunners in the bars of Angeles is to help the board and its members to decide if that quality of girl is worth spending thousands of dollars and a very long trip only to be disappointed in what they actually find once there, so very important I would say, after all, this board is called international sex guide for a reason, that reason is for board members to advise others on the type of girls that can be found and photos would play a big part in that of course, as they say, a photo is worth a 1000 words.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2797266]So while you repeatedly call everyone else to verify the beauty of their girls by posting photographic evidence, you refuse to do so yourself because you, a long-term resident in Angeles lest we forget, apparently hasn't got one single photo of a beautiful girl he's been with? Hmm.[/QUOTE]To suggest that others post photos (for any reason) when you are not willing to do so yourself. Its hypocritical. Pinoy use the term "two face". Rules for thee, but not for me.
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2797048]As far as your claim that angeles is like a sweet shop at the moment I'm confused how you would know considering your very short trip was some weeks ago and your now back in the uk, angeles and girls change day to day, a cute girl in a bar today might not be working there tomorrow.[/QUOTE]If the girls change regularly (and they do), then posting pics as you suggest is not smart. Among other pic posters that I have communicated with, we wait a period of time before posting (security reasons). There is little chance that I am posting a pic of a girl while I am still in town, and I'd suggest others also follow that policy. The idea that I am posting pics for other guys to decide if they want to come to AC is not correct. Also I don't share contact info (including bar info) unless a girl has specifically told me in the past to do so.
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2797048]SNIP angeles and girls change day to day, a cute girl in a bar today might not be working there tomorrow, so unless one is actually here then no way of knowing what's happening on the ground as of today, to claim anything else would be misleading.[/QUOTE]Respectfully disagree. Many gents write their FR's after going back to their home country. Their posts are still relevant, and indicative of what is happening recently. Thru their posts we've discovered, post-covid: More Korean bars, higher prices, more ST / runners. That's the basics of the change. Even better are posts from guys in town right now.
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[QUOTE=Transporter;2797414]10 K for some its a lot, for some its not much. But if time is a factor, you can easily just do a search online for escorts in manila, and it will cost you half. If you want the adventure, then the bars will provide that. Again if time is of concern, a taxi ride during traffic between LAC and makati is about an hour so plan accordingly.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply! You're right about some people thinking it's expensive while others think it's cheap. For example, in my country, an hour with a pretty girl would cost a little less. So I'd rather stay here and save myself the long trip XD.
Anyway, after arriving in Manila at night following so many hours of flying, I think the best option will be to do what you suggest and find a girl online. If I go bar-hopping, I might end up getting ripped off big time because I'll be half out of it from jetlag. I'll check out some bars just to see P. Burgos, and then I'll head back to the hotel to hook up with a girl from Pinalove or a similar site.
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Gorrion
I guess I suck at explaining things.
What I meant was Time does not stop for anyone. I believe you only had one night? There is only so many hours in one night. Time, hours, minutes, seconds, and all that is related do not apply to the girls, they have there own reference to time. If you want to grab something off the street, then its pretty fast, the bars will take a while to meander through, casa pretty fast, but online is where time takes on an entirely new meaning especially if the girls is coming from caloocan or cavite or worse. What I mean about search online is exactly that, search for escort agencies in manila. They are all business, and can pretty much guarantee arrival time within 10-15 minutes (they use their own drivers). Or at least have it as a back up plan, as if you are not dead set on a specific girl, the agency (and there are many) can have one to you within an hour. Some faster as some are located in makati. A lot of the girls are listed with multiple agencies, find the one you want to work with.
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Transporter
[QUOTE=Transporter;2797774]I guess I suck at explaining things.
What I meant was Time does not stop for anyone. I believe you only had one night? There is only so many hours in one night. Time, hours, minutes, seconds, and all that is related do not apply to the girls, they have there own reference to time. If you want to grab something off the street, then its pretty fast, the bars will take a while to meander through, casa pretty fast, but online is where time takes on an entirely new meaning especially if the girls is coming from caloocan or cavite or worse. What I mean about search online is exactly that, search for escort agencies in manila. They are all business, and can pretty much guarantee arrival time within 10-15 minutes (they use their own drivers). Or at least have it as a back up plan, as if you are not dead set on a specific girl, the agency (and there are many) can have one to you within an hour. Some faster as some are located in makati. A lot of the girls are listed with multiple agencies, find the one you want to work with.[/QUOTE]Sorry, it's my fault since my English is very poor. After carefully reading your message, it's now clear to me what you mean. Indeed, I will only be in Manila that night, so I will follow your advice and look for escort agencies to find a girl. Thank you very much for your advice. Regards.
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First trip
First off just wanted to preface this with my sincere gratitude for everyone's comments and reports, the time some of you spend to enlighten people like me is much appreciated and I hope to repay that with my own reports following my trip. I'm going to be heading to Angeles with a small group of friends in mid April. Having read about 50 pages deep on this page I think I have a good idea of how to navigate the mongering aspect of the trip. That being said, I have a few questions for the more experienced mongers on here.
1. I've read reports on this board about freelancers leading to scams where they make rape or similar accusations to extract substantial bribes / blackmail, is this something that happens with enough frequency that I should avoid freelancers or is there some sort of precaution that I can take to avoid being wrapped up in such nonsense?
2. Where are the best places to eat good western food? I know Angeles isn't exactly known for its culinary offerings so I figure I'the rather emphasize eating at places less likely to give me food poisoning and ruin my week in Angeles, any recommendations to that end would be much appreciated.
3. Are there any good places to daytrip with / without a girl in tow? I know what I'll be doing each evening I'm in town but would love to hear some things that others have enjoyed doing during the day as well as some things to avoid.
4. I've read anecdotal reports that the bar girls are tested for std's weekly, is there any concrete evidence to back this up or is it just rumor, I love BBFS as much as the next guy but also am hoping to avoid bringing back any unwanted gifts LOL.
5. I will be arriving just after Holy Week ends, how much of an impact on the quality of the girls should I expect that to have?
I appreciate any feedback / insight anyone may have to offer and fully intend to repay the board with some trip reports during / after my trip.
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[QUOTE=ThirtySubset;2798185]2. Where are the best places to eat good western food? I know Angeles isn't exactly known for its culinary offerings so I figure I'the rather emphasize eating at places less likely to give me food poisoning and ruin my week in Angeles, any recommendations to that end would be much appreciated.
4. I've read anecdotal reports that the bar girls are tested for std's weekly, is there any concrete evidence to back this up or is it just rumor, I love BBFS as much as the next guy but also am hoping to avoid bringing back any unwanted gifts LOL.
5. I will be arriving just after Holy Week ends, how much of an impact on the quality of the girls should I expect that to have?[/QUOTE]In walking distance to Walking Street, I would recommend Envy, Duke's at Score Birds and Phillies. I'm sure others can add to it.
STD testing from what I know they do go to the doctor weekly for an examination, but from what I gather they don't do blood tests weekly. On a recent visit the girl I was with a couple of times, mentioned that she enjoyed the examinations and (vaginal wash) but was delinquent on getting a recent blood test. Yet they still update showing her medical visit so she can continue working.
Holy week, I came once pre-pandemic and a lot of girls go home so your pickings will not be typical. Luckily I had a GF so I didn't have to struggle to worry about finding someone.
Hope this helps.
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First off just wanted to preface this with my sincere gratitude for everyone's comments and reports, the time some of you spend to enlighten people like me is much appreciated and I hope to repay that with my own reports following my trip. I'm going to be heading to Angeles with a small group of friends in mid April. Having read about 50 pages deep on this page I think I have a good idea of how to navigate the mongering aspect of the trip. That being said, I have a few questions for the more experienced mongers on here.
1. I've read reports on this board about freelancers leading to scams where they make rape or similar accusations to extract substantial bribes / blackmail, is this something that happens with enough frequency that I should avoid freelancers or is there some sort of precaution that I can take to avoid being wrapped up in such nonsense?
[B]Not really much you can do except to try to vet them before you go the room. Take her for a drink or a bite to eat and talk to her. If she seems too pushy or you get bad vibes, give her a few pesos and move on. Other than that, its a crap shoot.[/B]
2. Where are the best places to eat good western food? I know Angeles isn't exactly known for its culinary offerings so I figure I'the rather emphasize eating at places less likely to give me food poisoning and ruin my week in Angeles, any recommendations to that end would be much appreciated.
[B]Phillies on the main drag though watch out for the ladyboy FLs outside. There is a McDonalds at the other end of the strip.[/B]
3. Are there any good places to daytrip with / without a girl in tow? I know what I'll be doing each evening I'm in town but would love to hear some things that others have enjoyed doing during the day as well as some things to avoid.
[B]Not really much in the way of organized days trips. Check Trip Advisor[/B]
4. I've read anecdotal reports that the bar girls are tested for std's weekly, is there any concrete evidence to back this up or is it just rumor, I love BBFS as much as the next guy but also am hoping to avoid bringing back any unwanted gifts LOL.
[B]Don't believe it.[/B]
5. I will be arriving just after Holy Week ends, how much of an impact on the quality of the girls should I expect that to have?
[B]The girls should be out and about and hungry after a week of no extra pesos. The ones from out of town might still be traveling back from the provinces depending on how close to Easter you arrive.[/B]
I appreciate any feedback / insight anyone may have to offer and fully intend to repay the board with some trip reports during / after my trip.
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[QUOTE=ThirtySubset;2798185]First off just wanted to preface this with my sincere gratitude for everyone's comments and reports, the time some of you spend to enlighten people like me is much appreciated and I hope to repay that with my own reports following my trip. I'm going to be heading to Angeles with a small group of friends in mid April. Having read about 50 pages deep on this page I think I have a good idea of how to navigate the mongering aspect of the trip. That being said, I have a few questions for the more experienced mongers on here.
1. I've read reports on this board about freelancers leading to scams where they make rape or similar accusations to extract substantial bribes / blackmail, is this something that happens with enough frequency that I should avoid freelancers or is there some sort of precaution that I can take to avoid being wrapped up in such nonsense?
2. Where are the best places to eat good western food? I know Angeles isn't exactly known for its culinary offerings so I figure I'the rather emphasize eating at places less likely to give me food poisoning and ruin my week in Angeles, any recommendations to that end would be much appreciated.
3. Are there any good places to daytrip with / without a girl in tow? I know what I'll be doing each evening I'm in town but would love to hear some things that others have enjoyed doing during the day as well as some things to avoid.
4. I've read anecdotal reports that the bar girls are tested for std's weekly, is there any concrete evidence to back this up or is it just rumor, I love BBFS as much as the next guy but also am hoping to avoid bringing back any unwanted gifts LOL.
5. I will be arriving just after Holy Week ends, how much of an impact on the quality of the girls should I expect that to have?
I appreciate any feedback / insight anyone may have to offer and fully intend to repay the board with some trip reports during / after my trip.[/QUOTE]1. It can happen but I don't think its common. I've fucked dozens of freelancers and never had that kind of issue. I have had non performers who I had to kick out but even then they mostly left without a fuss and without payment. You have to act like you're always in contorl. If you are drunk or weak they will smell it.
2. Food in AC generally is mediocre to terrible. All the tourist type places give about the same menu of the same quality. We don't go there for the food.
3. Mt. Pinatubo or Subic (overnight trip).
4. You do the BBFS you take your chances. I use azythromycin prophylactically and so far that seems to have worked.
5. don't know Never traveled at that time.
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1. Not super likely particularly in AC where the cops know the score, but I'm not a big freelance guy.
2. Just walk to the SM Mall. Plenty of western options.
3. None that I would care to go to. Take her swimming and to dinner.
4. Pee tests weekly. You will see the van parked on walking street around noon with hundreds of girls lined up. No weekly blood tests but you are unlikely to catch something that requires one. Risk / reward. I also take antibiotics while there and I'm well into the triple digits barebacking pinays and never caught anything.
5. There will probably always be at least one girl who suits your needs.
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[QUOTE=ThirtySubset;2798185]3. Are there any good places to daytrip with / without a girl in tow? I know what I'll be doing each evening I'm in town but would love to hear some things that others have enjoyed doing during the day as well as some things to avoid.[/QUOTE]Pinatubo has a tour, quad biking and other activities.
Clark museum.
Golf Course (back of Hensonville).
Deca wakeboarding park.
Joy flights at Angeles Flying Club.
Angeles City proper (away from Walking St).
Buy fresh food at Pampang markets (go early).
Go Ziplining.
[QUOTE=ThirtySubset;2798185]5. I will be arriving just after Holy Week ends, how much of an impact on the quality of the girls should I expect that to have?[/QUOTE]Compared to the girl quality in your home town, AC will be awesome.
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[QUOTE=ThirtySubset;2798185]First off just wanted to preface this with my sincere gratitude for everyone's comments and reports, the time some of you spend to enlighten people like me is much appreciated and I hope to repay that with my own reports following my trip. I'm going to be heading to Angeles with a small group of friends in mid April. Having read about 50 pages deep on this page I think I have a good idea of how to navigate the mongering aspect of the trip. That being said, I have a few questions for the more experienced mongers on here.
1. I've read reports on this board about freelancers leading to scams where they make rape or similar accusations to extract substantial bribes / blackmail, is this something that happens with enough frequency that I should avoid freelancers or is there some sort of precaution that I can take to avoid being wrapped up in such nonsense?
2. Where are the best places to eat good western food? I know Angeles isn't exactly known for its culinary offerings so I figure I'the rather emphasize eating at places less likely to give me food poisoning and ruin my week in Angeles, any recommendations to that end would be much appreciated.
3. Are there any good places to daytrip with / without a girl in tow? I know what I'll be doing each evening I'm in town but would love to hear some things that others have enjoyed doing during the day as well as some things to avoid.
4. I've read anecdotal reports that the bar girls are tested for std's weekly, is there any concrete evidence to back this up or is it just rumor, I love BBFS as much as the next guy but also am hoping to avoid bringing back any unwanted gifts LOL.
5. I will be arriving just after Holy Week ends, how much of an impact on the quality of the girls should I expect that to have?
I appreciate any feedback / insight anyone may have to offer and fully intend to repay the board with some trip reports during / after my trip.[/QUOTE]Just go and experience it. Don't over think it.
Go with bargirls first. Leave the FL alone until you are experienced.
Don't know your lifestyle or your finances to tell you anything else.
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[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2798305] I use azithromycin prophylactically and so far that seems to have worked.
[/QUOTE]I do not put azithromycin in my prophylactics and have not caught anything.