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[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2801162]Ya, that was kind of my point. P5 k barfines in AC, while that is the increased price from the pre-covid days, still gets you a lot more than similar pricing in VN (and only 1 hour in VN). I compared AC to Mexico about a month ago. Them latinas were p50 ($1) per minute (roughly) pre-covid, so p50 x 60 minutes was p3000 for 1 hour (or much less) and 1 pop (she will be out the door 3 minutes after you pop), and she will not f*ck or s*ck an uncovered schwanztooga. Post-covid prices have jumped there. AC might be a bargain.[/QUOTE]I'd argue that choosing between $50 or $100 a day fucks isn't the deciding factor for guys that are spending thousands on (Business Class) airfares, ABC suites, domestic flights etc. Even Cheap Charlie's are only spending a fraction of their total cost actually on girls.

It's guys who are spending months in country that concentrate more on $/ shot and by that stage most will not be paying nightly barfines but working from existing contacts or more civilian sources.

The PI has cornered the market for guys seeking GFE, BB and a relaxed holiday. It's these addons that guys are happy to pay for.

Notwithstanding higher prices, most of the usual AC complaints seem to have fallen by the wayside: most are reporting fun girls' attitudes; one shot runners are with the guys urging; some are even finding tolerable hotels and food.

Cost comparisons to other destinations are difficult and often lack accuracy as prices and services vary so much that it's often apples and oranges.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2801129]Spent most of the day in my room at ABC catching up on real life back home. My plan was to take advantage of the Friday night FL scene at the ABC rooftop club. But as they say: "the best laid (pun intended) plans. ".

Mr. O agreed to meet me at ABC once he finished dinner. I went up a bit early, around 7:30. Nothing really going on beyond the DJ trying to set new worlds records for noise pollution. No FL's in sight. I asked a security guy when the babes show up and he told me between 9 and 10. As I hung out, more or less between 7:30 and 11:45 pm, I only saw one possible FL: tall, blonde, white, rail thin and drinking alone at the bar. All the others there we obviously not FL's.

The others there were mostly groups of 2-6 Koreans, each with an equal number of hot Pinays, with 2 or 3 tables occupied by a western guy with a girl. At one time there were two tables with 2 and 4 girls drinking. They appeared to be there for themselves: never made eye contact with any guys, even when heading to the toilet. Two Indian guys approached the table with 4 girls, and were moving on within 2 minutes (hey, read the room fellas). I eventually had a small epiphany. All those YT vlogs showing a van in front of Envy collecting a group of Koreans, each with a girl; where do they go?

They go to ABC to swim and drink, and most importantly, smoke.

I left a little before midnight having seen no confirmed freelancers. But today will be another day.

And my new motto remains: "If I'm fucking, I'm learning. ".[/QUOTE]I believe the van takes them back to Korea Town in Friendship. That's where the Koreans usually stay.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2801174]I'd argue that choosing between $50 or $100 a day fucks isn't the deciding factor for guys that are spending thousands on (Business Class) airfares, ABC suites, domestic flights etc. Even Cheap Charlie's are only spending a fraction of their total cost actually on girls.

It's guys who are spending months in country that concentrate more on $/ shot and by that stage most will not be paying nightly barfines but working from existing contacts or more civilian sources.

The PI has cornered the market for guys seeking GFE, BB and a relaxed holiday. It's these addons that guys are happy to pay for.

Notwithstanding higher prices, most of the usual AC complaints seem to have fallen by the wayside: most are reporting fun girls' attitudes; one shot runners are with the guys urging; some are even finding tolerable hotels and food.

Cost comparisons to other destinations are difficult and often lack accuracy as prices and services vary so much that it's often apples and oranges.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]The AC experience is priceless to some.

[QUOTE=JordCo;2801050]He said this a while ago and I said it was trolling then. Whether you are younger or older in AC, you'd know this statement is pure nonsense. Anything else said before or after this point can be discredited. Put it down to being in a troll / Korean cuck / one of the 1% who can't even get laid in AC.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2800976]Persona non grata...The real value from ISG comes from the reports from real mongers who have gotten their dicks into it. Not from some academic lurker with a different killjoy agenda.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2800930]His objective on this board is obvious, discourage all westerners from visiting at any cost, never say anything good about AC that would encourage them.[/QUOTE]I find it hilarious that Napa has positioned himself as a Simon Cowell style judge of Angeles Got Talent, telling us which girls are pretty and which aren't. This from someone who let slip recently that he never barfines girls. He's clearly spamming the board with inaccurate information to discourage people from visiting. My bet he owns a bar in Pattaya.

I recently posted a glowing diary of my time in Angeles, which he did not like as it's a different opinion to his. It ired him so much in fact, he spammed my inbox with a string of insulting emails, to such a degree I now delete them without reading. But I'm going to end this post with a direct quote from one of Napa's emails that I found particularly ironic:

"Leave the fucking to the big boys that are actually here".

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2801664]I find it hilarious that Napa has positioned himself as a Simon Cowell style judge of Angeles Got Talent, telling us which girls are pretty and which aren't. This from someone who let slip recently that he never barfines girls. He's clearly spamming the board with inaccurate information to discourage people from visiting. My bet he owns a bar in Pattaya.
[/QUOTE]I appreciate the diversity of opinions on AC on this thread. I like your posts and I like his.

We are all adults and can deal with the spectrum of opinion to form our own beliefs. Personally I'm not a huge Angeles booster- my experiences have borne out much of what NS has said. But at the same time I don't disbelieve your accounts and others who have glowing reviews. I can see how both can be true. Angeles has many things that are missing in Pattaya: almost universal BB, easygoing Filipinas. It also has some real downsides: Korean oriented market, limited things to do in the city. Everyone can make their own decisions based on their own values and tastes.

[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2801666]I appreciate the diversity of opinions on AC on this thread. I like your posts and I like his.[/QUOTE]I too appreciate some of NS' comments.

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2801664]But I'm going to end this post with a direct quote from one of Napa's emails that I found particularly ironic: "Leave the fucking to the big boys that are actually here".[/QUOTE]But the hypocrisy of his suggesting we take / post pics (until they please him) to prove something that is difficult to prove (or disprove, as beauty is in the eye of the beholder), then admitting that he doesn't barfine (and hence, doesn't take pics, hence not measuring up to what he is asking of others), is just too much.

Hope everyone is having a great day.

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2801664]I find it hilarious that Napa has positioned himself as a Simon Cowell style judge of Angeles Got Talent, telling us which girls are pretty and which aren't. This from someone who let slip recently that he never barfines girls. He's clearly spamming the board with inaccurate information to discourage people from visiting. My bet he owns a bar in Pattaya.

I recently posted a glowing diary of my time in Angeles, which he did not like as it's a different opinion to his. It ired him so much in fact, he spammed my inbox with a string of insulting emails, to such a degree I now delete them without reading. But I'm going to end this post with a direct quote from one of Napa's emails that I found particularly ironic:

"Leave the fucking to the big boys that are actually here".[/QUOTE]Hard to speculate on the reason to cockblock you in AC.

I have run across people with many reasons to CB, mainly they had a family person in the sex business like a sister, ex GF, ex wife, mother or worst they were a product of it.

You can only be a little sympathetic towards them.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2801356]The AC experience is priceless to some.[/QUOTE]Well, isn't it!

She gives good shadow.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2801740]Well, isn't it!

She gives good shadow.[/QUOTE]I quit going to AC about 10 years ago, but I am starting to rethink my position after that pic.

After the ABC Rooftop Club wash out, I decided to stick with Bar Girls for my last 2 days. Met up with Mr. O for lunch at the Indian place in Royal Amsterdam. Food was good.

We started another early afternoon club crawl and ended up at Bad Boy. I bar fined a 27 year old spinner, P4 K LT and took her back to ABC. Decided to head up to roof to take a swim first. Love frolicking in the water with a hot chick in a skimpy bikini. What bikini, you ask? I had purchased 2 small bikinis in advance from [URL]Shein.com[/URL] for about $8 each. She liked the purple one and up we went to commence said frolicking. After a while, we headed down to grab a bite and then back to the room. And that was when the night went to shit. Despite her energetic attitude and flirtations, suddenly she remembered she doesn't like BJ's. She gave it a barely adequate effort and it was time to mount up. Now she suddenly found out her pussy is too small for my (let's face it) average size HappyKat. I was, well disappointed to say the least. Kicked her out and started looking for a Plan be.

Plan be turned out to be a Hail Mary from Pina Love. 19, very tight body with big boobs, but a bit of a butterface. She told me from her 1st message she was down for everything. I had already done a video chat with her, including seeing her Pic ID. She wanted 3 k for ST, and I messaged her to come over ASAP.

She came over in 15 minutes, delivered a solid, enthusiastic everything and then flashed a huge smile as I filled her up, Westy Vaccination-Style. She was out the door in 45 minutes and I went to sleep.

Next day was my last in AC. I had no specific plans, save to get some hang time on WS and see what happens. It turns out, next to nothing with one exception. I went back to Angel Witch and found myself the instant center of attention when Mamasan, the waitresses and the girl I bar fined 2 night earlier recognized me. Apparently, I was now officially a Baller at AW. Yay?

Had some fun, joking around, buying drinks and then I found out that if you "Ring The Bell" for 3 K you will see naked titties for the next 30 minutes. Not all titties should have been naked, but whatever.

Went back to my hotel, grabbed a snack and packed before heading to bed.

Next report will be in the Makati thread, where I will spend my final 5 days.

[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2801790]She wanted 3 k for ST, and I messaged her to come over ASAP.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this Info. As you were not shocked about these price it seems that this is the new normal now?

Last year (06/2022) I had girls for 1,5 K ST easily and now the price doubled? What happened?

Or are Americans now trying to compete with the Koreans or they want a new Costa Rica (where ST is 150 $) in the PH? Then keep on!

I will not go to AC anymore with this Prices and shit like that. Thanks for your warning. Go on with this. Many thanks!

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2801919]Thanks for this Info. As you were not shocked about these price it seems that this is the new normal now?[/QUOTE]That roughly is the new normal, for those that have been following along since the re-opening of AC.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2801919]Last year (06/2022) I had girls for 1,5 K ST easily and now the price doubled? What happened?[/QUOTE]Can you tell where you got girls for 1500? SW? Gogos? Tinder?

BTW, when I was there late last year, I got a wild range of initial prize requests from SW. From 5 k ST, down to 1 k ST. For the 1 K girl (mid 30's, nice figure, demure girl), I queried jokingly if that was good for 2 pops. "Up to you". She was serious, so I decided to go a bit further and asked if she could stay for 5 hours and 2 pops for 1 k. "OK yes". One wonders what one is getting for that low price.

[QUOTE=DzikaBomba;2801919]Thanks for this Info. As you were not shocked about these price it seems that this is the new normal now?

Last year (06/2022) I had girls for 1,5 K ST easily and now the price doubled? What happened?

Or are Americans now trying to compete with the Koreans or they want a new Costa Rica (where ST is 150 $) in the PH? Then keep on!

I will not go to AC anymore with this Prices and shit like that. Thanks for your warning. Go on with this. Many thanks![/QUOTE]I'm not qualified to talk about pricing trends over the last few months, let alone years. This is my first visit to Angeles, Manila and the Philippines. So I can only comment to what expectations I had from reading posts here any my own experiences in 6 days at ABC in Angeles.

What I found in my brief stay was bar fines ranged from PHP 4,000 to PHP 5,000 for LT along Walking Street and Perimeter clubs like Brown Sugar. At the same time, the few Pina Love, FilipinoCupid contacts I spoke with (who were not catfishing, or asked for cash in advance) wanted from a reasonable (IMO) PHP 2,000 to an outrageous (IMO) PHP 12,000. The PL girl I selected was an obvious pro. No pretense about it. But she had a great body (with a butterface), showed me that body and a pic ID on video chat in advance, and got right into fucking me near to death within 5 minutes of entering my room.

So I can't comment on what prices are too high for you. It's your dick and your wallet. I can comment that almost every girl I banged gave me what I considered the full value of the amount I paid (with exceptions noted in my posts).

I will definitely come back when I can.

[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2802051]I'm not qualified to talk about pricing trends over the last few months, let alone years. This is my first visit to Angeles, Manila and the Philippines.[/QUOTE]No offense but the girls are famous for charging what the market will bare. Its no surprise that a self confessed new guy in town was fully priced.

But, as you said, your money, your dick and evidently you were happy with the results. 👍.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2802051]I'm not qualified to talk about pricing trends over the last few months, let alone years. This is my first visit to Angeles, Manila and the Philippines. So I can only comment to what expectations I had from reading posts here any my own experiences in 6 days at ABC in Angeles.

What I found in my brief stay was bar fines ranged from PHP 4,000 to PHP 5,000 for LT along Walking Street and Perimeter clubs like Brown Sugar. At the same time, the few Pina Love, FilipinoCupid contacts I spoke with (who were not catfishing, or asked for cash in advance) wanted from a reasonable (IMO) PHP 2,000 to an outrageous (IMO) PHP 12,000. The PL girl I selected was an obvious pro. No pretense about it. But she had a great body (with a butterface), showed me that body and a pic ID on video chat in advance, and got right into fucking me near to death within 5 minutes of entering my room.

So I can't comment on what prices are too high for you. It's your dick and your wallet. I can comment that almost every girl I banged gave me what I considered the full value of the amount I paid (with exceptions noted in my posts).

I will definitely come back when I can.[/QUOTE]I don't understand why mongers expect the price of pussy to remain the same?

Price of bread is up. No one complaining about that?

Price of gasoline is up. No one complaining about that?

Monger Wages are up. No one complaining about that?

SMH.

Under the Friends and Family plan I am paying P3500 for ST before 8 pm. Plenty of girls lined up before 8 pm.

Why before 8 pm? 1) I like to sleep at 11 pm. 2) I have found these innocent 19-22 yo can be home by 10 pm without raising any suspicions.

F and F plan P3500ST works for me.

Great reports Mr. HappyKat.