FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2843256]So I was in the place on Thursday, first revisit since COVID and my first visit since getting treated for Prostate Cancer. (Currently the treatment working, so get checked boys, get checked).

The place is much the same, upstairs is slightly revamped. The entry fee is fine (75 Euros) and the food good. Now, the good stuff.

I was shocked by this having to "negotiate" with the girls. It is a total passion killer for me. It makes everything more mechanical and everything harder. I get it there is inflation. I get it there is a free market. But 200 Euros for an hour and negotiating BJ without condom as an extra just destroys Germany as an option. With the money you can spend on girls in Germany now, you can spend on a plane ticket to Dubai and get a girl all night for 400 USD or even cheaper. Of course for the more well heeled, the money is irrelevant and for you lucky guys you still get that shopping market, stack 'em high sell 'em cheap experience and more power to your elbow.

Regarding negotiation, some girls will go for 150 for the hour. I always need an hour these days after prostate cancer. However I did have to explain to the girls that we have to take things slowly now. (Everything works just a bit slower due to radiation damage). Also, when I finish the seminal fluid is reduced to a tiny little drop. Ah well, better that than dead, plus it feels the same, just less messy. I did try explaining to one girl that I had some issues and was waiting for Viagra to kick in, and we negotiated 150 for the hour and I was happy to go to the room when I felt the flush come..[/QUOTE]Very happy for you, you won your war. Very sorry about this stupid girl, she should go to gynecologue when breast krank may kill in only few months, but girls in this business won t invent hot water, or maybe she thought You would be too complicated. Not for same reason, but I m used to girls who seem to think I would be too difficult for them, but when we discover, most ask to repeat. Kloe is not chubby at all, but very firm slim with perfect naturals compare to many bad silicon, pity she most often hide them, when I'm pretty sure they could help her for more business. For Sharks, entry is 65, why did you pay 75? For girls rate, when can find German escorts for 150/60, when I'm not a 30 mn rabbit, so I look at Sharks escort level and really not many. On last Saturday, I was really happy to find my full natural Sharks 2021 best girl, she is also a Mainhattan superstar, for 150/80 for real GFE. If you want to try German escorts, lady. De or kaufmich. De, ask video by whatsapp, when they are less expensive than little Romanians at Sharks. Like clothes for babies, the smallest, the most expensive.

[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2843256]So I was in the place on Thursday, first revisit since COVID and my first visit since getting treated for Prostate Cancer. (Currently the treatment working, so get checked boys, get checked).

The place is much the same, upstairs is slightly revamped. The entry fee is fine (75 Euros) and the food good. Now, the good stuff.

I was shocked by this having to "negotiate" with the girls. It is a total passion killer for me. It makes everything more mechanical and everything harder. I get it there is inflation. I get it there is a free market. But 200 Euros for an hour and negotiating BJ without condom as an extra just destroys Germany as an option. With the money you can spend on girls in Germany now, you can spend on a plane ticket to Dubai and get a girl all night for 400 USD or even cheaper. Of course for the more well heeled, the money is irrelevant and for you lucky guys you still get that shopping market, stack 'em high sell 'em cheap experience and more power to your elbow.

Regarding negotiation, some girls will go for 150 for the hour. I always need an hour these days after prostate cancer. However I did have to explain to the girls that we have to take things slowly now. (Everything works just a bit slower due to radiation damage). Also, when I finish the seminal fluid is reduced to a tiny little drop. Ah well, better that than dead, plus it feels the same, just less messy. I did try explaining to one girl that I had some issues and was waiting for Viagra to kick in, and we negotiated 150 for the hour and I was happy to go to the room when I felt the flush come. But then she actually refused me (first refusal since 2005) because I was "Krank". I said no, I was cured and cancer is not contractable, I just had to explain things had to go slower, but she said "For me this is not OK you are sick" and with that I just walked off. I nearly walked out I was so ashamed but then I realised something. What the fuck do I have to explain anything for? So I forgot trying to explain things, I am just an older guy who takes longer end of story

Having said that the quality of girls was just as good as it has been since about 2010 (the second decline when they tightened up registration rules) and certainly 2007 (when the kicked the Russians out). In terms of price, the majority seemed to want 200 from me. Maybe because I am starting to actually look old now. Who knows. Things change I guess. I did see (I think) the girl Chloe who is cute face and a touch chubby but she wanted 200. She seemed a bit mechanical but nice. I didn't want to spend 200 so I thought I would try something else. Nikka (I think) was my eventual choice.

The service was just about acceptable. Certainly not GFE. And with that, I finished and fucked off.

All in all the scene is not what it was. The negotiation aspect is a pain, the prices are just a bit too high for me now and make Germany a less attractive option. I think the Girls do not make any more money than they did but they probably don't have to do as many clients (but I could be wrong as I only did a quick observation). I do miss the German girls. If you got a good one you could get a real good fuck sometimes. I think Berlin still has a few local girls. But I will only be an occasional visitor in future.[/QUOTE]Great that you had a good time. You did start off by giving too much information. The girls also have their issues but they will never tell you.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2843303]Great that you had a good time. You did start off by giving too much information. The girls also have their issues but they will never tell you.[/QUOTE]I didn't read he enjoyed so much his visit, feeling ashamed when he is a hero to win his war and not sure he would repeat his choice, what I understood when I learned English at school in Paris long time ago. Girls tried to fuck him for money because new face for them. My tip: don't say your first visit, same in any club. I fully agree with him, grocery negotiation is a real killing desire also for me, I refuse to negotiate, I prefer next, or even to drive back to Paris full heavy. With their new rate, I wonder how many girls make more money than when was 50/30. Few girls like Cami and Kamila are for 80/30 and 130/60. My 150/80, or 200/90 with a very rare so natural and deep GFE German now escorting, are not too bad, from my good job to treat girls who are able to attract me. On last Saturday, Miss Sharks 2022 Roxi was back. Alina and Sabrina will return on end of month. Tara was also back. Also Sena.

Sharks really grew on 2015, when was behind Oase, World and Palace before. Now biggest, but don't mean highest quality and for sure not best value for money in Germany. Only worth for me is new rate can attract rare girls and from escorting, when best club for Germans if you know when.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2843303]Great that you had a good time.[/QUOTE]A good time? Is it just [I]me[/I] who has completely misread his post?

If you actually read his report then IMHO it clearly shows that he did [U]not[/U] have a good time. One girl bailed on him (after initially agreeing 150460 and after he popped a Viagra) and the second girl offered "just about acceptable" service.

[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2843256]I did try explaining to one girl that I had some issues and was waiting for Viagra to kick in, and we negotiated 150 for the hour and I was happy to go to the room when I felt the flush come. But then she actually refused me (first refusal since 2005) because I was "Krank". I said no, I was cured and cancer is not contractable, I just had to explain things had to go slower, but she said "For me this is not OK you are sick" and with that I just walked off.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=MikeDeH;2843256]Nikka (I think) was my eventual choice.

The service was just about acceptable. Certainly not GFE. And with that, I finished and fucked off.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2843279]Did they suddenly increase prices? Two weeks ago I still paid 65.

[URL]https://fkk-sharks.de/pricing.php[/URL]

Wrong again: 150-hour is the norm.

It would help if you at least get the names of the girls and entrance & hourly room prices correct, Chloe is definitely not chubby so it probably wasn't her.

Hope you get well soon and that the treatment of your prostate cancer will be successful. I don't know what your budget is, but perhaps next time consider going to Switzerland? It's more expensive, but when a girl agrees to go to a room with you, then IMHO there is a much smaller change of getting ripped off with poor service and bullshit upselling.[/QUOTE]Yes, entry is 50 or 65 , not 75 . French native, but I understood his report in same way than You = quite disappointing and even feeling ashamed when he really doesn t have to. There is no more norm at Sharks, few will really kiss and BBBJ for 80/30 and 130/60 and not the ugliest and some will ask 150/30 and 250 or even 300/60 . This is now Sharks, but my french friend enjoyed today a Globe girl for 100/30 , I never noticed her at Globe, but he was happy with her at Sharks, when we don t have same taste for girls, only to play NBA at Oase.

4 days at Sharks, Wed. Sun. My second time in the post-Covid era.

I had an initial panic attack that I had traveled 4,500 miles from the US for nothing. Wasn't the quality of girls I remember. Admittedly, I'm picky and strongly prefer natural light-haired, light-eyed girls, versus the dark features that are common with Romanian girls. German girls are always my go-to. Looks and service is always better for me. If the German girls stop coming, I will as well.

Luckily, I later found Jana and Zoe, two German jewels, IMO. I also couldn't resist the light-eyed Sophia from Macedonia. Unfortunately, despite being pretty, the service was not great and would not repeat.

Speaking of German girls. Should a miracle happen and Leonie returns (Tall blonde gone since Covid), I'll pay you for the notice. She was my soulmate.

I was hoping the new prices would bring in more QUALITY girls but it does not appear that's the case. I'll never forget in 2018, sitting in the main captain's chair next to the video game table, the best seat in the house where you have a perfect view of everything, and I remember sitting there just watching the girls' locker room door continually swing open, and my jaw dropping as a constant stream of beauties would walk out. It felt like an out-of-body experience. Side note: When did more girls start sitting in the couch area? That is prime real estate for us!

I've been to Sharks 8 more times since, which may also be a factor (like any addiction, it's never as good as your first time). I also read on this forum that Sharks was even better pre-2017, which just blows my mind to think about. I feel fortunate to have discovered FKK but also resentful it wasn't until 2018. But, I can objectively say for me, Sharks is not what it once was. Hoping we'll get back to the 'ol days soon!

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2843318]A good time? . . .
If you actually read his report then IMHO it clearly shows that he did [U]not[/U] have a good time.[/QUOTE]I read it the same way. But I'd remind him that Germany has more than Sharks to offer. Give up on the club, perhaps. . . But the whole country?

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2843510]I read it the same way. But I'd remind him that Germany has more than Sharks to offer. Give up on the club, perhaps. . . But the whole country?[/QUOTE]Good point. Sharks is the biggest, but not always the best. I'd also like to add that bad luck is part of the game sometimes.

Mike, glad you are around and still kicking. All the best to you.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2843510]Give up on the club, perhaps. . . But the whole country?[/QUOTE]Well, I'm open for ideas. Do you have any better suggestions for clubs at the moment in Germany?

After Golden Times in Brueggen burned to the ground, NRW is more or less dead for me because IMHO all the other clubs suck. I was never a fan of Living Room, and I always avoided Oceans because it was another rip-off tourist trap with their pricing 'strategy' of trying to rip off customers if they arrived by taxi or having to pay for food etc.

What else is there? Villa Vertigo? Oase? Mainhattan? Palace? Artemis?

No thanks, just read the poor reviews and you know enough. I already predicted this in 2020-2021 that the lockdowns and all the "pandemic" bullshit would be disastrous for the economy in general and FKK clubs in particular in Germany and now we see the result.

Another prediction I made is that the left-socialist parties (and that includes the CDU which has Merkel turned into just another franchise SPD-Green party) in Germany will follow what the left-socialist-Schwab-Soros parties have already 'achieved' in other countries like Sweden, France, and Ireland: closing down clubs and outlawing prostitution.

[URL]https://www.bild.de/politik/2023/politik/prostitution-in-deutschland-kommt-bald-ein-bordell-verbot-84971158.bild.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]Politiker wollen neues Gesetz Kommt bald ein Bordell-Verbot?[/QUOTE]'Politicians want a new law Will brothels soon be outlawed?

According to some 'study' they now claim that '90% of the women in the prostitution business' are being abused. Yes, you read that right: NINETY PERCENT!

[QUOTE]Die Frauen muessen tagtglich schwere Koerperverletzung durch gewalttaetige Freier und Zuhaelter erdulden, sagte Mack. Sie leiden deshalb unter psychischen Traumatisierungen, wie wir sie sonst nur von Folteropfern und Kriegsveteranen kennen.[/QUOTE]'Women must endure heavy bodily violence from customers and pimps on a daily basis' said Mack, 'that's why they suffer from psychological traumas similar to victims of torture and veterans of war. '.

Just like with all the Covid 'deaths' and the Climate change' hype, do we now again see shameless exaggerations sold to the sheeple as 'science' by the 'media' in order to push a certain narrative?

Just a little thought experiment: what's the last time any of you saw a girl walk down the stairs in Sharks looking all bloodied with bruises and black eyes ("schwere Koerperverletzung" = severe bodily harm.) after a room with a customer? And then they [I]suggest[/I] with clever writing that this happens to NINETY PERCENT of the girls, on a DAILY basis? Really? WTF!?

P.S. The Greens pretend to be against outlawing prostitution, but they usually do this bait-and-switch trick: pretend to be in favour of personal freedoms ("my body, my choice") but then they collectively vote along with the Brown Fascists under the guise of 'protecting the general public. '.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2843318]A good time? Is it just [I]me[/I] who has completely misread his post?

If you actually read his report then IMHO it clearly shows that he did [U]not[/U] have a good time. One girl bailed on him (after initially agreeing 150460 and after he popped a Viagra) and the second girl offered "just about acceptable" service.[/QUOTE]In his circumstances he did pop, its a good time compared to sitting at home in the US and not nutting. He also got experience to make his next trip better. Its sometimes good to look at the positive side of things.

Thank you for the nice replies. A lot was made of the entrance fee being 75. Can I point out this is probably a mistake and I also want feeling top well at the time. So it probably was 65 euros. My apologies.

I definately spoke to a kloe / chloe and a nikka. Also a nice Turkish girl with a very short buy cute face with hamster cheeks. But she wanted 200.

I don't remember names so well of the girls themselves are empty vessels. Always been the same. Sorry.

I made it clear I was a long timer and no way I was paying 200 for an hour. Bit mpst girls with me were very adamant ot was 200. As I was adamant it was not acceptable.

After my treatment I lost a bit of hair and got fatter. I noticed that even though they don't care much about looks. It made a difference that I look less pleasant I think. A man can tell.

So I had a good time with the atmosphere and the food and the naked chick's.

In the room not so much. Waste of money really. A visit to pornhub would have been more satisfying. The negotiations were painful and frustrating. It was just about with going for the expedience. Not giving up on Germany but sharks is finished for me.

Thanks again for considerate replies.

[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2843682]Thank you for the nice replies. A lot was made of the entrance fee being 75. Can I point out this is probably a mistake and I also want feeling top well at the time. So it probably was 65 euros. My apologies.

I definately spoke to a kloe / chloe and a nikka. Also a nice Turkish girl with a very short buy cute face with hamster cheeks. But she wanted 200.[/QUOTE]Chloe recently got a perm and her body is very tan from the Solarium. There is not an ounce of fat on her. She does ask for 200 for 60 minutes. Her usual place is on the right side of the bar directly opposite the stripper pole sitting with Liz, Emma and gang.

For the experts, there was a romanian girl, back in 2020 that I've been with that gave me a memorable service, it was a Sunday at noon, she said that she never stays past 4-5 pm because it gets too crowded and prefers to work when there's less people. She was on the darker side (or maybe tanned? Medium height, black hair long and straight, had really big natural boobs, bigger than Brenda's, very soft skin, black eyes, no lip injections or anything like that, obviously can't remember the name, but I think she was my best experience in Sharks so I decided why not throw that bottle out here if anybody can recognize who I'm talking about.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2843627]In his circumstances he did pop, its a good time compared to sitting at home in the US and not nutting.[/QUOTE]Obviously you have the bar set extremely low for quality and service levels.

Mike's answer perfectly explains it:

[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2843682]
In the room not so much. Waste of money really. A visit to pornhub would have been more satisfying.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2843750]For the experts, there was a romanian girl, back in 2020 that I've been with that gave me a memorable service, it was a Sunday at noon, she said that she never stays past 4-5 pm because it gets too crowded and prefers to work when there's less people. She was on the darker side (or maybe tanned? Medium height, black hair long and straight, had really big natural boobs, bigger than Brenda's, very soft skin, black eyes, no lip injections or anything like that, obviously can't remember the name, but I think she was my best experience in Sharks so I decided why not throw that bottle out here if anybody can recognize who I'm talking about.[/QUOTE]Maybe Dilek sitting at the bar close to ex kino.