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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2649678]Enjoy your basements gentlemen. Excuse me as I head out to enjoy this fine Cancun day.[/QUOTE]LOL. I will be there next week. My passport's pages are all filled up and no one is doing Express. I was going to have wait 8 weeks for a new one or scratch and claw and get an appointment at a passport agency. I got one in El Paso on Thursday thank God!
It is a four hour drive from Cancun, but I hope my gal and I have the time to see the lake of seven colors, lake Bacalar: [URL]https://www.google.com/search?q=lake[/URL]+bacalar&rls=ig&sxsrf=AOaemvIN5 XlPdJK3 MKaOcH3 a__i5 J58 KWw:1641963902047&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2 ahUKEwjgwvWYuKv1 AhXSmmoFHVMWCtAQ_AUoAnoECAIQBA&biw=1280&bih=577&dpr=1. 5.
Hope the seaweed is not that bad where you are!
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2649739]That is why I say for me freedom is a collective right. Just follow rules and move on. What I am trying to say in my post is that the debate here or issue like this in general is not a science one, not the type of science being discussed here. You won't get very far at this point if you only focus on numbers or medical science alone. [/QUOTE]I couldn't disagree with you more on freedom being a "collective right". Fuck that.
As far as debate not being about medical science, I agree. This is more of a social science.
I've seen a lot in the past two years, people clinging to dogmas, afraid to voice an opinion that goes against the consensus.
These are not good things, and definitely not my idea of freedom.
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[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2649912]Oops, sorry, I have a life and don't spend every waking minute on this board typing out non-sensical solipsistic essays[/QUOTE]Solipsistic? It looks as though the Botero Plaza barfly found a bottle of Aguarente and a thesaurus, what an odd convergence. Yet you've backed yourself into another pot calling the kettle black corner. Oh well. Even an ape can come up with brilliance if he hammers a keyboard long enough. Wink.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2649541]Another excellent example of not knowing what you're talking about.
Paulie and I had a big public, knock down fight right here over 3 years ago. It might have been the reason this thread was started. We haven't really talked since then. We're not sidekicks, friends or buddies.
Here's something you might understand when you reach emotional maturity. I agree or disagree with what is posted. It doesn't matter who posted it. Bullshit (for example, declaring the pandemic is over) is bullshit, regardless of the source. Good advice is good advice regardless of the source.
As for the rest of what you agreed with, I suggest you go read the other threads. There have been a few people over the years who might have agreed with me at one time or another.[/QUOTE]I've met JBee62 on at least three occasions. I call him an overall good guy with high mental aptitude and a gift for analogies. That said I've often disagreed with him, especially on mongering issues though his Covid analysis has been very useful and well sourced.
P.S. What about all the guys that refuse to meet up with anyone here? I speak of Elvira, The Marquis de Twat, Just TK, or Shoo Swede? I mean we shouldn't expect anyone to go searching mothers' basements in England, Sweden, or even the USA should we? Colombia should be the point of contact right? Anyone met them? Just asking and thanks. Winks.
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[QUOTE=Paulie97;2650013]I've met JBee62 on at least three occasions. I call him an overall good guy with high mental aptitude and a gift for analogies. That said I've often disagreed with him, especially on mongering issues though his Covid analysis has been very useful and well sourced.[/QUOTE]I know you have been in Medellin the last 5 years. I was asking about the last two, and you have pulled a Democratic douche move and did not answer the question. So you have been sitting in your bunker watching MSNBC the whole time acting like you are a damned expert. That is fine, but the rest of us, the ones who actually have to work and travel in this world do not appreciate those of you playing up the virus for political purposes.
After creating this damned virus to begin with, the government has been scaring the shit out of everyone about it. Hell, JJBee just said that Covid had a 20% admission rate. Bill Maher said that 60% of Democrats said the admission rate was 30+% or above. The actual rate of admission is 1%, and it is lower with omicron. Yeah, I have heard others talk of people dying with Covid. Know how many I have seen it myself? Zero. And I have seen dozens come in gasping for air with low oxygen levels. I am not saying there are no Covid deaths, but it is very very rare, and it sure as hell is not 900,000.
So here we go again. We have an arm chair douche like you telling us how it is while the government scares the shit out of people like you. You see douche, I may complain about mask wearing, social distancing ETC but I do it. The story about mask wearing and the supermarket, which you have taken to think I am antimask, was about government insanity. The government mandated the wearing of masks, said not to go to Mexico, but there were plenty of masks in Mexico but none in the USA where the mask mandates were.
The problem with being a bunker douche like you is that you do not get to see that most of the rules are being followed: the lockdowns, the social distancing, the mask wearing, even the vaccines, and it has not done jack shit. Case numbers are higher now than they ever have been. Even the fucking vaccine now does not work. You just watch MSNBC and CNN who have been blaming the pandemic on Republicans since day one. That makes money for them but it is not helpful for us in the real world.
But the pandemic is over. The virus has mutated to a more contagious and less potent form. It has done like all the viruses before it have done. Governments did not defeat the virus. The virus changed its form so it could live longer and not kill its hosts.
So now it is time for me to laugh. How much longer you going to be holed up? He he. I think after the 2022 midterms and the Dems lose their ass, you might peak out and see the sun. For you, the pandemic will be over when MSNBC is not shouting fear porn day and night.
And now Biden is polling negatively on the virus, but it is not even that. The passion of those fighting the vaccine mandate is a 100 X more that of those for it. My prediction is Biden will declare victory on the virus after the midterms and douches like you will emerge from your bunkers. As for Colombia, don't worry, we will keep a light on for you.
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[QUOTE=CrowExplorer;2649999]I couldn't disagree with you more on freedom being a "collective right". Fuck that....[/QUOTE]You can disagree all you wan but I don't know what you are disagreeing with. It's what I think and what I will do. I did not say you or others have to think the same way and I am not imposing my idea on you like you are trying to do on me when talking about freedom.
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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2650298]After creating this damned virus to begin with, the government has been scaring the shit out of everyone about it. Hell, JJBee just said that Covid had a 20% admission rate. Bill Maher said that 60% of Democrats said the admission rate was 30+% or above. The actual rate of admission is 1%, and it is lower with omicron. Yeah, I have heard others talk of people dying with Covid. Know how many I have seen it myself? Zero. And I have seen dozens come in gasping for air with low oxygen levels. I am not saying there are no Covid deaths, but it is very very rare, and [B]it sure as hell is not 900,000.[/B][/QUOTE]You're right the actual number (according to Worldometer is 864,000 today 1/12/2022) Does that mean there weren't a few that were mis characterized as CoVid deaths? Clearly with a number that great there have been a few that were mischaracterized. And deaths that weren't characterized as CoVid? I'm sure there have been a few of those too, that should have been.
But you think this number is greatly exaggerated in order to scare people? Why, oh I know. The Elvis analytical diarrhea strikes again. Less than 1% of the US population has died from CoVid and you don't know any of them so it must be fiction. That isn't exactly reasoning on a high level. I don't know a single person who died in the armed services of the US in any of our wars or conflicts. Does that mean it hasn't happened? Arlington National Cemetery would beg to differ.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2650298]So here we go again. We have an arm chair douche like you telling us how it is while the government scares the shit out of people like you. You see douche, I may complain about mask wearing, social distancing ETC but I do it. The story about mask wearing and the supermarket, which you have taken to think I am antimask, was about government insanity. The government mandated the wearing of masks, said not to go to Mexico, but there were plenty of masks in Mexico but none in the USA where the mask mandates were.
The problem with being a bunker douche like you is that you do not get to see that most of the rules are being followed: the lockdowns, the social distancing, the mask wearing, even the vaccines, and it has not done jack shit. Case numbers are higher now than they ever have been. Even the fucking vaccine now does not work. You just watch MSNBC and CNN who have been blaming the pandemic on Republicans since day one. That makes money for them but it is not helpful for us in the real world.[/QUOTE]BTW what is your expertise? Do you have a degree in Epidemiology? Virology? Immunology? No? Your degree is in libertarian blogs and podcasts by fellow conspiracy theorists. You have offered sage predictions that have been proven to be laughable. "No more tan 80,000 deaths. Not going to happen" but wait? We're at 864,000 and counting. You simply don't have any knowledge or idea about this virus and all your advice, predictions and analysis are just simply Elvis analytical diarrhea.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2650298]But the pandemic is over. The virus has mutated to a more contagious and less potent form. It has done like all the viruses before it have done. Governments did not defeat the virus. The virus changed its form so it could live longer and not kill its hosts.[/QUOTE]Why is it that the virus mutated? Was it because the other earlier and more lethal variants were defeated by widespread worldwide vaccinations? Don't you think that might have played a role? Oh, of course that can't have played a role because it crosses your conspiracy theory that all the government actions and vaccines didn't do anything to curb the lethal spread of the deadly initial variants. Of course you would know all about this, afterall Joe Rogan told you so. Right? Or was it some other super-knowledgeable scientist like Tucker Carlson?
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2650298]So now it is time for me to laugh. How much longer you going to be holed up? [/QUOTE]We all like a good laugh. I get a good laugh at every post you make pretending to be knowledgeable when you are, simply, alergic to analytical rigor and statistics. I laugh when you quote blogs without sources or libertarian podcasters. Instead you could google other sources like The Mayo Clinic or Johns Hopkins or The Cleveland Clinic or any of a dozen other reputable sources. They don't always agree about everything but they sure as hell have peope with real expertise expressing opinions and not the political hacks you love to listen to.
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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2649947]LOL. I will be there next week. My passport's pages are all filled up and no one is doing Express. I was going to have wait 8 weeks for a new one or scratch and claw and get an appointment at a passport agency. I got one in El Paso on Thursday thank God!
It is a four hour drive from Cancun, but I hope my gal and I have the time to see the lake of seven colors, lake Bacalar: [URL]https://www.google.com/search?q=lake[/URL]+bacalar&rls=ig&sxsrf=AOaemvIN5 XlPdJK3 MKaOcH3 a__i5 J58 KWw:1641963902047&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2 ahUKEwjgwvWYuKv1 AhXSmmoFHVMWCtAQ_AUoAnoECAIQBA&biw=1280&bih=577&dpr=1. 5.
Hope the seaweed is not that bad where you are![/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/12/magazine/sex-old-age.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Villainy;2650375]You're right the actual number (according to Worldometer is 864,000 today 1/12/2022) Does that mean there weren't a few that were mis characterized as CoVid deaths? Clearly with a number that great there have been a few that were mischaracterized. And deaths that weren't characterized as CoVid? I'm sure there have been a few of those too, that should have been.
But you think this number is greatly exaggerated in order to scare people? Why, oh I know. The Elvis analytical diarrhea strikes again. Less than 1% of the US population has died from CoVid and you don't know any of them so it must be fiction. That isn't exactly reasoning on a high level. I don't know a single person who died in the armed services of the US in any of our wars or conflicts. Does that mean it hasn't happened? Arlington National Cemetery would beg to differ.
BTW what is your expertise? Do you have a degree in Epidemiology? Virology? Immunology? No? Your degree is in libertarian blogs and podcasts by fellow conspiracy theorists. You have offered sage predictions that have been proven to be laughable. "No more tan 80,000 deaths. Not going to happen" but wait? We're at 864,000 and counting. You simply don't have any knowledge or idea about this virus and all your advice, predictions and analysis are just simply Elvis analytical diarrhea..[/QUOTE]An outstanding Elvira beatdown.
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj7WjLtquVM&t=44s[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2650298]The problem with being a bunker douche like you is that you do not get to see that most of the rules are being followed: the lockdowns, the social distancing, the mask wearing, even the vaccines, and it has not done jack shit. Case numbers are higher now than they ever have been.[/QUOTE]ROFL.
Is 'Elvis' still habitually this stupid?
He should take a math class sometime.
Case numbers are supposed to be "higher than they've ever been" at this point. Does this clown not understand the word "exponential" ?
Nobody ever said or expected those steps to "end the pandemic".
Mental midgets like Elvis can't even comprehend the fact that the only numbers one can appropriately compare to today's Covid numbers are those which would be in place had there been no preventive steps taken.
The most vivid element of the entire pandemic hasn't even approached yet. As that will occur when it tears through Africa at a pace even Elvis's shallow mind has yet to even consider.
The entire pandemic, to date, has been distributed as a function of wealth, freedom, and desirability as a place to visit.
Most of Africa has zero of those so they've known just a glancing blow so far, with the exception of South Africa, which has more of all three factors.
People in Africa don't just leap into their Land Rovers and drive across the continent to Sturgis or the African equivalent of same to spread their Covid cheer.
It seems Elvis should head back to Burger King. Ideally one in Kinshasa, waiting for the real Covid pandemic to strike him.
Hope they serve Elvis's favorite Kool Aid at the BK in Kinshasa. Though obviously he won't likely be thirsty for a good, long while.
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[QUOTE=SawZonaNorte;2650476]Case numbers are supposed to be "higher than they've ever been" at this point. Does this clown not understand the word "exponential" ? [/QUOTE]Yeah, douche, they are higher now than ever.
[QUOTE=SawZonaNorte;2650476]Nobody ever said or expected those steps to "end the pandemic".[/QUOTE]But, but, but Biden had a plan to end the pandemic. You are saying he lied? OMG. I am shocked, shocked.
[QUOTE=SawZonaNorte;2650476]Mental midgets like Elvis can't even comprehend the fact that the only numbers one can appropriately compare to today's Covid numbers are those which would be in place had there been no preventive steps taken.[/QUOTE]LOL. I even predicted that you douches would say. Can you imagine if we did nothing? Yeah, I can. We would have the same number of cases and not destroyed the world economy. That is why I was preaching that we should imitate what Sweden was doing.
[QUOTE=SawZonaNorte;2650476]The most vivid element of the entire pandemic hasn't even approached yet. As that will occur when it tears through Africa at a pace even Elvis's shallow mind has yet to even consider.[/QUOTE]It is only central Africa that has been spared and if you knew why, you would not be making such a claim. What strain is going to hit them and do them in?
[QUOTE=SawZonaNorte;2650476]People in Africa don't just leap into their Land Rovers and drive across the continent to Sturgis or the African equivalent of same to spread their Covid cheer.[/QUOTE]LOL. Which people in Africa? It is kind of a big continent you moron.
[QUOTE=SawZonaNorte;2650476]It seems Elvis should head back to Burger King. Ideally one in Kinshasa, waiting for the real Covid pandemic to strike him.
Hope they serve Elvis's favorite Kool Aid at the BK in Kinshasa. Though obviously he won't likely be thirsty for a good, long while.[/QUOTE]Congratulations, you have just written THE stupidest post on covid I have ever read. You are on ignore.
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[QUOTE=Villainy;2650375]You're right the actual number (according to Worldometer is 864,000 today 1/12/2022) Does that mean there weren't a few that were mis characterized as CoVid deaths? Clearly with a number that great there have been a few that were mischaracterized. And deaths that weren't characterized as CoVid? I'm sure there have been a few of those too, that should have been.[/QUOTE]I saw Paulie smugly quoted this and the truth is I should put both of you douches on ignore. You are too stupid to get what I was talking about so I will explain it once. As Mr. E posted today, "75% of vaccinated people who died of COVID-19 had at least four comorbidities."
Do you have any idea why she did that? Of course not, you are a douche and only exist to suck government dick and not think.
Right now, there are more + Covid cases than ever before. If someone gets in a car wreck and his head is cut off and he tested + for Covid, that counts as a Covid death, so there is going to be an explosion of deaths now. The CDC is trying to back off that number because it is going to explode and it directly conflicts with what Dr. Malone said about there being zero omicron deaths. Of course, you douches only watch CNN and MSNBC but 10 million people watch Joe Rogan's podcast and Dr. Malone was one of his most popular guests, and the informed people unlike you are seeing how full of shit the CDC really is.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2650375]"No more tan 80,000 deaths. Not going to happen" but wait? We're at 864,000 and counting. You simply don't have any knowledge or idea about this virus and all your advice, predictions and analysis are just simply Elvis analytical diarrhea.[/QUOTE]Sorry, douche, but you do not what the fuck you are talking about. Do you know how many pure Covid deaths there were in Italy when the Italians took out co-morbidities? "2. 9% presented with no comorbidities and 97.1% had one or more condition listed aside from COVID-19, such as ischemic heart disease, heart failure, type-2 diabetes, obesity or autoimmune disease (see Table 1 here)."
So you are being an arrogant douche in thinking that the 80,000 number has been exceeded. Tell me douche, how do you determine a heart attack, stroke, or pulmonary embolism was due to Covid or not?
If you are the CDC, you say, "Ah fuck it, we will say they are all due to Covid." and a douche like you says "Sounds smart to me."
What the CDC was trying to say today, and you were too dense to get it, was "not all those Covid deaths were due to Covid."
Yeah, I know. You do not give a fuck about people dying, the government lying or anything else. All you care about is that your government checks keep rolling in. That is why you are a worthless illogical POS. You are too stupid to know what data can be trusted and what cannot and you are back on ignore. My goal in life is to be smart as you think you are.
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[QUOTE=SawZonaNorte;2650476]ROFL.
Is 'Elvis' still habitually this stupid?
He should take a math class sometime.
Case numbers are supposed to be "higher than they've ever been" at this point. Does this clown not understand the word "exponential" ?
Nobody ever said or expected those steps to "end the pandemic".
Mental midgets like Elvis can't even comprehend the fact that the only numbers one can appropriately compare to today's Covid numbers are those which would be in place had there been no preventive steps taken.
The most vivid element of the entire pandemic hasn't even approached yet. As that will occur when it tears through Africa at a pace even Elvis's shallow mind has yet to even consider.
The entire pandemic, to date, has been distributed as a function of wealth, freedom, and desirability as a place to visit.[/QUOTE]Yawn, imagine if it existed a country with less restrictions. Think little boy, think!
LMFAO!
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[QUOTE=Paulie97;2650417]An outstanding Elvira beatdown.
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj7WjLtquVM&t=44s[/URL][/QUOTE]You're incredibly funny, calling someone a girls name. You really should be a stand-up comedian.
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[QUOTE=Paulie97;2650013]I've met JBee62 on at least three occasions. I call him an overall good guy with high mental aptitude and a gift for analogies. That said I've often disagreed with him, especially on mongering issues though his Covid analysis has been very useful and well sourced.
P.S. What about all the guys that refuse to meet up with anyone here? I speak of Elvira, The Marquis de Twat, Just TK, or Shoo Swede? I mean we shouldn't expect anyone to go searching mothers' basements in England, Sweden, or even the USA should we? Colombia should be the point of contact right? Anyone met them? Just asking and thanks. Winks.[/QUOTE]Paulies posts are pathetic by so many reasons, the latest is that he seems so lonely and pathetic that he uses ISG as a way to meet strange men LMFAO! Come on, how pathetic can you get?! I will never be so pathetic that I will want to meet weirdos like Paulie or Gaygaybee on my vacation.
No thanks, since I'm not a **** (unlike Paulie and Gaygaybee) I actually have a lot of friends. They probably should try not being cunts just once.