[QUOTE=Dg8787;2804809]Lollipop has 2 rates.
Black bikinis are 3500.
Red bikinis are 4000.[/QUOTE]Short time or long time?
Printable View
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2804809]Lollipop has 2 rates.
Black bikinis are 3500.
Red bikinis are 4000.[/QUOTE]Short time or long time?
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2804254]Seems that some on this board can not be adults.[/QUOTE]With respect I don't think the grown-up card is one you can play. You recently bombarded me with a string of insulting emails purely because my opinion differs to yours. In one of your emails you even comically told me to leave fucking to the 'big-boys' like you! (especially ironic as you recently let slip you never barfine).
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2804254]mention that angeles is a shadow of its former self and guys start to spit out their dummy, why, because most are fantasists[/QUOTE]No-one claims Angeles is as good as it used to be. It's still an incredible place though with lots of pretty girls who give you a lot more bang for your buck than Thai girls. Your problem though is that when anyone claims they've had a good time, you dismiss them as a fantasist or a dreamer because it doesn't chime with your own experiences. On my trip I fucked a gorgeous 19 year old bareback in every position I could think of, once at night and again in the morning before taking her for breakfast. She was so good I barfined her again on my last night and she was even better second time around, bringing her handcuffs along with her ('would you like me to suck you Officer Lance?). But nothing like that ever happens to you so I must be making it up, that's how you think. It's quite sad really when you think about it.
People on this forum can choose who they want to believe. They can believe me and the many, many people who have posted glowing reports about Angeles or they can believe you, the lone dissenting voice who relentlessly trashes the place and clearly has an agenda.
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2804254]Its funny how over time I have offered to go on a friendly barhop and pick up the entire tab with many members who claim to see only stunners in angeles bars, most recently to member sir lancelot.[/QUOTE]I don't recall you ever offering to meet up with me on a bar-crawl. It strikes me as the type of thing I'd jump at too because you seem such a fun guy.
[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2804862]With respect I don't think the grown-up card is one you can play. You recently bombarded me with a string of insulting emails purely because my opinion differs to yours. In one of your emails you even comically told me to leave fucking to the 'big-boys' like you! (especially ironic as you recently let slip you never barfine).
No-one claims Angeles is as good as it used to be. It's still an incredible place though with lots of pretty girls who give you a lot more bang for your buck than Thai girls. Your problem though is that when anyone claims they've had a good time, you dismiss them as a fantasist or a dreamer because it doesn't chime with your own experiences. On my trip I fucked a gorgeous 19 year old bareback in every position I could think of, once at night and again in the morning before taking her for breakfast. She was so good I barfined her again on my last night and she was even better second time around, bringing her handcuffs along with her ('would you like me to suck you Officer Lance?). But nothing like that ever happens to you so I must be making it up, that's how you think. It's quite sad really when you think about it.
People on this forum can choose who they want to believe. They can believe me and the many, many people who have posted glowing reports about Angeles or they can believe you, the lone dissenting voice who relentlessly trashes the place and clearly has an agenda.
I don't recall you ever offering to meet up with me on a bar-crawl. It strikes me as the type of thing I'd jump at too because you seem such a fun guy.[/QUOTE]You dare slappa the nappa! LOL.
I totally agree. Real dick in the pussy reports are what counts.
Re: the viagra / cialis debate. How about just getting a Rx from your doc at home? I'm relatively young and just told my sympathetic male doctor that I had a few lackluster experiences revolving around sexual opportunities mostly arising when I am very drunk. Got a script for 12 viagra 50 mgs. Pharmacists are obliged to ask if I want the cheapest generic version. It's 12 pills for 4-5 EUR. I renew it online every 2-3 months and use it as needed (when porking 30-something chunky white girls at home that I can't naturally get aroused by, or when I need more throughput than is humanly possible in the PH).
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2804809]Lollipop has 2 rates.
Black bikinis are 3500.
Red bikinis are 4000.[/QUOTE]I haven't gotten to my Lollipop report yet, but I spent a lot of (very happy) time there. My experience was not quite this way. I only saw girls in red bikinis (much better than the long dresses elsewhere.) I barfined several (including one who spent a week with me in exchange for a 4 day BF) and they were all 4000 pesos ST or LT in my experience. Maybe the black bikinis are hiding in the basement, but I didn't see them. I did bring a "Spotlight" dancer down my first night. Gorgeous. She was wearing a red bikini and the smallest ass an adult ever had. I didn't know she was a Spotlight dancer, but when I first inquired about BFs she said she didn't do them. Later she said she had her mens but wanted to see me when they were over. Others later confirmed that she is a Spotlight dancer but they thought she would go with me if she wasn't on her mens (and for the right price, but we didn't determine that).
Don't get me wrong. I thought Lollipop was the best Bar I visited in AC and that's why I kept going back. I should mention that there is a discount card you can buy (called Wolf Pack or something). The first time I went in there I thought I was only staying 4 days so why would I buy a discount card? (I think it was 500 pesos) But I went often enough that I should have. It works other places, but none that I went. But I spent enough at Lollipop. It gets you a discount on all of your drinks and probably drinks you buy for males, I don't think you get anything on Lady drinks, but it probably would have still been worthwhile for me.
[QUOTE=Gorrion;2804811]Short time or long time?[/QUOTE]Depends on the girls. Some will say st to be safe and then stay LT if they like or trust you.
Some can only do st as they have to get home for the night. I had a 19 yo that would only stay up to 11 pm as her her mother expected her home by then and didn't know what she was doing. Now she would come at 1 pm and stay until 11 pm, you could call that LT.
I had others say st and then spend the whole night. Depends on how you treat them. Most would be in bed on their cp using the Wi-Fi in between sessions. Ones that were from provinces staying in boarding houses would likely stay LT if they like you.
Many variables for them to go from st to LT. Tipping helps a bit too.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2805221]I had a 19 yo that would only stay up to 11 pm as her her mother expected her home by then and didn't know what she was doing..[/QUOTE]Bwahahaha. Mom knows exactly why Princess is coming home most nights with 3000 p in her purse. She just pretends otherwise. It's amazing how many girls in Angeles are the world's highest paid waitress, DH or nanny.
Plausible denial is alive and strong in Asia.
Enjoy. G.
PS. Perhaps not your girl, but many also need to get back to kids or husbands.
I'd agree that the whole ST/LT definitions can be hazy. It's the same with online or freelancers. Just go with the flow.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Goferring;2805254]Bwahahaha. Mom knows exactly why Princess is coming home most nights with 3000 p in her purse. She just pretends otherwise. It's amazing how many girls in Angeles are the world's highest paid waitress, DH or nanny.
Plausible denial is alive and strong in Asia.
Enjoy. G.
PS. Perhaps not your girl, but many also need to get back to kids or husbands.
I'd agree that the whole ST/LT definitions can be hazy. It's the same with online or freelancers. Just go with the flow.
Cheers[/QUOTE]If momma knows, can she send me next year's graduating 19 yo?
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2805221]Depends on the girls. Some will say st to be safe and then stay LT if they like or trust you.
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Goferring;2805254]
I'd agree that the whole ST/LT definitions can be hazy. It's the same with online or freelancers. Just go with the flow.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Thanks for your answers.
Normally at night, I like to do LT, while during the day I usually do one or two ST. Hopefully, the girls will like me and I can have long nighttime sessions. XD.
Regards.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2805254]Bwahahaha. Mom knows exactly why Princess is coming home most nights with 3000 p in her purse. She just pretends otherwise. It's amazing how many girls in Angeles are the world's highest paid waitress, DH or nanny.
Plausible denial is alive and strong in Asia.
Enjoy. G.
PS. Perhaps not your girl, but many also need to get back to kids or husbands.
I'd agree that the whole ST/LT definitions can be hazy. It's the same with online or freelancers. Just go with the flow.
Cheers[/QUOTE]I have chatted with many girls who say daytime only. Once I had a girl from Taguig who used an excuse saying she is with her girlfriend staying the night and her phone lit up practically every 5 minutes till she shut it off at midnight. Some parents are reastrict believe it or not. Others bury their head in the sand not knowing what their little girl does. I have found if the parents are well off they tend to be strict. They cannot control the girl in daytime but certainly at nighttime. Curfews are common. But they do allow dating. Most girls I talked to lost their virginity when they were 14-16 with a neighbor boy who hangs around the house. If they get pregnant so be it. Parents may scold but all Philippine people live children and will take care of them irrespective of whose child it is. I have mat several pretty girls in the evening for a few hours. Very adamant about not staying the night even I told them many excuses they can use. They all said they could come early morning and hang around all day cutting classes. These girls are not worried about money.
But girls from poor families the parents usually only the mother knows very well. Mother is only looking for money and hoping foreigner will continue to be a cash source.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2805394]I have chatted with many girls who say daytime only. Once I had a girl from Taguig who used an excuse saying she is with her girlfriend staying the night and her phone lit up practically every 5 minutes till she shut it off at midnight. Some parents are reastrict believe it or not. Others bury their head in the sand not knowing what their little girl does. I have found if the parents are well off they tend to be strict. They cannot control the girl in daytime but certainly at nighttime. Curfews are common. But they do allow dating. Most girls I talked to lost their virginity when they were 14-16 with a neighbor boy who hangs around the house. If they get pregnant so be it. Parents may scold but all Philippine people live children and will take care of them irrespective of whose child it is. I have mat several pretty girls in the evening for a few hours. Very adamant about not staying the night even I told them many excuses they can use. They all said they could come early morning and hang around all day cutting classes. These girls are not worried about money.
But girls from poor families the parents usually only the mother knows very well. Mother is only looking for money and hoping foreigner will continue to be a cash source.[/QUOTE]Yes, most poor parents know exactly what their daughter is doing at night. AC is full of girls from Samar or Leyte which are economically impoverished regions. Parents and family enjoy the monthly remittances these girls send home. Everyone knows what they earn is several times more than what a waitress or maid could earn. They just don't discuss it, but all are in on it.
I know an IG model based in AC. She runs very lucrative Alua and Fansly sites where she chats with mongers for a fee, gets them to subscribe and then sells them custom videos. She gets customers from IG, Twitter and Facebook and then directs them to her paid site. She makes about $5,000 a month working 7 hours a day on her phone. That's a huge salary for AC. She lives with her sister and white brother in law. Initially claiming that none of her family knew, she then revealed that they all know she is an online prostitute. With so much cash to burn, they are very supportive of her profession. Her mom is particularly happy and goes on spending sprees to AC from Davao every few months and then accompanies her daughter on content creation trips to various holiday resorts. They were dirt poor, so you could say the family is now addicted to the money and feeling very smug. I told the girl to buy a house, but there are too many family members with their hands out to grab the loot. Girl's only hope is to marry an American monger and leave.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2805404]Yes, most poor parents know exactly what their daughter is doing at night. [/QUOTE]Poor girls generally have poor moms. Many of those moms know exactly what is happening because they were doing precisely the same thing 20 years ago.
Enjoy. G.
I am a newbie. One trip to PI, so take my experience with a grain of salt, but it is recent.
I was with one girl (on my second day) 19 years old from Mindanao (all my hot teenie boppers were from Mindanao, not by plan). No kids, wants to be a nurse, trying to save money. We agreed to BBFS in the bar, and she didn't try to reneg, but in the room she was very concerned that I not come inside her because it would "kill" her father (and her dreams) if she became pregnant. I asked if she was on some sort of birth control. She said yes, but not the pill (she thinks the pill would make her infertile. Sounded like it was something like anIUD but not sure). Meanwhile, her Poppa was texting her every 15 minutes. She claimed that he has no idea what she does, thinks she's a waitress. She kept apologizing for responding (it was Papa as she showed me the messages, not that I read Tagalog or Visaya, but somehow it was clear). But in the final message he said that it was very hot (believable) and he needed 4500 pesos for an air conditioner her aunt had found. How the fuck would a waitress be able to send 4500 pesos? (to be clear, she wasn't asking me for it).
The girl I spent a week with, also 19 from Mindanao, wasn't so pure. She had a one year old child at home. It seemed pretty clear that her entire family knew what she was doing and she didn't care. Both her eldest brother and one of her sisters had followed her to AC for work. The first day we were traveling she put me on video chat with her entire family (including her father who is younger than I am) and I know she told at least some family members exactly what I paid in bar fine to take her with me. They had to know there were expectations beyond companionship, but she also told them I was her boyfriend (true for the week).
So, to me it seems that they're all slightly different and you don't really know whether they're sharing details with their family or not. One piece of good advice I got was, if you want LT and the girl has a child, ask where the child is. If it's in AC or nearby, LT will always be a problem. But if the child's in a distant province it's no problem.
Just my 2 cents.
[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2805917]I am a newbie. One trip to PI, so take my experience with a grain of salt, but it is recent.
One piece of good advice I got was, if you want LT and the girl has a child, ask where the child is. If it's in AC or nearby, LT will always be a problem. But if the child's in a distant province it's no problem.
Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Thanks. All of your comments are very common and 100% believable. The only grey area is that Auntie's AC is likely Dad's gambling debts.
I'm not sure if you found out or not but BBFS-dontCIP is a common request and a promise that is wise to keep. I've seen girls get very angry after 'accidents' due to the reasons you mention and being trusted after the first session often opens the flood gates for the girls to say thanks on subsequent times.
Good call on connecting kids' location to ST runners.
Cheers. G.
[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2805917]I am a newbie. One trip to PI, so take my experience with a grain of salt, but it is recent.
I was with one girl (on my second day) 19 years old from Mindanao (all my hot teenie boppers were from Mindanao, not by plan). No kids, wants to be a nurse, trying to save money. We agreed to BBFS in the bar, and she didn't try to reneg, but in the room she was very concerned that I not come inside her because it would "kill" her father (and her dreams) if she became pregnant. I asked if she was on some sort of birth control. She said yes, but not the pill (she thinks the pill would make her infertile. Sounded like it was something like anIUD but not sure). Meanwhile, her Poppa was texting her every 15 minutes. She claimed that he has no idea what she does, thinks she's a waitress. She kept apologizing for responding (it was Papa as she showed me the messages, not that I read Tagalog or Visaya, but somehow it was clear). But in the final message he said that it was very hot (believable) and he needed 4500 pesos for an air conditioner her aunt had found. How the fuck would a waitress be able to send 4500 pesos? (to be clear, she wasn't asking me for it).
The girl I spent a week with, also 19 from Mindanao, wasn't so pure. She had a one year old child at home. It seemed pretty clear that her entire family knew what she was doing and she didn't care. Both her eldest brother and one of her sisters had followed her to AC for work. The first day we were traveling she put me on video chat with her entire family (including her father who is younger than I am) and I know she told at least some family members exactly what I paid in bar fine to take her with me. They had to know there were expectations beyond companionship, but she also told them I was her boyfriend (true for the week).
So, to me it seems that they're all slightly different and you don't really know whether they're sharing details with their family or not. One piece of good advice I got was, if you want LT and the girl has a child, ask where the child is. If it's in AC or nearby, LT will always be a problem. But if the child's in a distant province it's no problem.
Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]My opinion. Young girls have "young girl problems" that include varying levels of drama. I prefer a more "seasoned" PI companion with experience and reasonable expectations.