[QUOTE=BlrCity;2407959]Oh yeah! Which country might that be? India?
I doubt if these other countries actually exist.[/QUOTE]I would suggest try Vietnam and Cambodia. They have not overrun by Indian tourists yet, so you will fine less bias.
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[QUOTE=BlrCity;2407959]Oh yeah! Which country might that be? India?
I doubt if these other countries actually exist.[/QUOTE]I would suggest try Vietnam and Cambodia. They have not overrun by Indian tourists yet, so you will fine less bias.
[QUOTE=VegasGambler9;2407796]While watching YT videos (yes my couch is as close as I've came to Thailand) more girls seem to be asking for 700ST. I could be wrong but I think the price is sliding down.[/QUOTE]How old are the videos you're watching? Sometimes the date the video is posted is a fair bit later than the date it was created.
As far as I know, 700 THB is the baseline going rate on Beach Road, it has been for a few years. Up until 2015 or so the going rate was 500 THB, but then jumped to 700. Some girls might ask for more (especially if busy), but it's OK to offer 700 and see if they accept, most will. In any case, on Beach Road, dreadful quality (I'm not too picky, but it really is dire) is more of a problem than price. I haven't been to Beach Road in a few months, so I'm not 100% sure, but things change slowly there.
I find that offering a price works much better than asking, as long as you know the going rate. Most girls feel better if I offer 700 and settle on 700-800, rather than if I talk her down from 1000. And if she throws out some ridiculous number like 1500-2000, the game is over before it started, even if we could have agreed.
As for other venues, it's highly unlikely prices would go down, they never do. The best you can hope for is price staying the same for a while, and girls readily accepting the lower end of the going rate range, rather pushing for more.
Bannana Boi.
I was being sarcastic. Sorry about that.
I did see Indian bars / clubs on walking street. I avoided them thinking it would be a sausage fest like in most Indian clubs.
I will try it out next time.
Gargano19.
Have you tried Vietnam. How would you compare with Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2408146]How old are the videos you're watching? Sometimes the date the video is posted is a fair bit later than the date it was created.
As far as I know, 700 THB is the baseline going rate on Beach Road, it has been for a few years. Up until 2015 or so the going rate was 500 THB, but then jumped to 700. Some girls might ask for more (especially if busy), but it's OK to offer 700 and see if they accept, most will. In any case, on Beach Road, dreadful quality (I'm not too picky, but it really is dire) is more of a problem than price. I haven't been to Beach Road in a few months, so I'm not 100% sure, but things change slowly there.
I find that offering a price works much better than asking, as long as you know the going rate. Most girls feel better if I offer 700 and settle on 700-800, rather than if I talk her down from 1000. And if she throws out some ridiculous number like 1500-2000, the game is over before it started, even if we could have agreed.
As for other venues, it's highly unlikely prices would go down, they never do. The best you can hope for is price staying the same for a while, and girls readily accepting the lower end of the going rate range, rather pushing for more.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info guys, yeah the videos I watch are very modern maybe two days old. I just noticed two girls offering for 700 not really lookers but still. I'm scared so scared of all of the girls but yeah mostly beach road. I'm scared of STI's. I really often wonder if the bar girls like on Soi 6 could really be any safer at all. Why would the bars really test the girls for STI's? I see no reason for them to test the girls. I didn't know if the prices would budge or not for the rest of the city thanks.
[QUOTE=VegasGambler9;2408174]Thanks for the info guys, yeah the videos I watch are very modern maybe two days old.[/QUOTE]You are allowed to post youtube links on here. Post away and we'll let you know if the videos are recent or old. Some guys like Mr. E may even be able to provide you with reviews of some of the Beach Road girls in the video.
[QUOTE=VegasGambler9;2408174]I'm scared of STI's.[/QUOTE]
You can always wear 2 condoms.
[QUOTE=VegasGambler9;2408174]I'm scared so scared of all of the girls but yeah mostly beach road. I'm scared of STI's. I really often wonder if the bar girls like on Soi 6 could really be any safer at all. Why would the bars really test the girls for STI's? I see no reason for them to test the girls.[/QUOTE]And who is testing the customers? Why would you be scared of one chick over another? A disease does not care how much a person charges or where they are working.
[QUOTE=BlrCity;2407959]Oh yeah! Which country might that be? India?
I doubt if these other countries actually exist.[/QUOTE]If you have money, it doesn't matter if you are indian. 1) travel to Thailand alone, 2) don't be cheap, 3) don't act like a fucking jerk, and 4) take shower daily and everything will be fine in Thailand. Prostitutes are prostitutes. You may be as lucky as a fat ugly man from western country if you follow those instructions.
[QUOTE=MongerForSex;2408364]If you have money, it doesn't matter if you are indian. 1) travel to Thailand alone, 2) don't be cheap, 3) don't act like a fucking jerk, and 4) take shower daily and everything will be fine in Thailand. Prostitutes are prostitutes. You may be as lucky as a fat ugly man from western country if you follow those instructions.[/QUOTE]I agree totally. I am originally from India and I know where Indian guys ruin it. I have been to Bangkok and Pattaya. I treated the girls really well. Showered, smelled good, good clothes and being polite. I saw a lot of Indian guys haggling with 1 girl for having sessions with multiple guys trying to get a combo deal or something. It's simple logic, girls are there to make money they don't care which nationality a guy is from as long he is respectful and willing to spend cash. The girls talk among themselves, once they know I am a good customer they repeatedly contact me and also recommended me to other chicks.
Folks,
I was pretty disappointed with my experience with UTP so far. The go-gos are absolutely a rip-off that are surviving only on the Japanese and the Arab crowd. I went to a couple in Soi LK Metro and the girls there are pretty decent, but the set up is just so stupid. The girls on the stage are 7's and 8's, but they barely move their hips an inch up and down. That's not sexy. Their only aim in life is to have the customer order a lady drink for her. If you make eye contact with any of the girls on the stage, the bar staff immediately gesture for you to buy her a LD. The LD comes to your seat, and the lady comes over to you and you have the chance to talk to her. I inquired with one of the worst (chubbiest) girls in Ninja gogo about how much she would set me back by. It was THB 1,500 for the BF and THB 3,500 for her LT. She was a 8 at best, and that was after I had my beer goggles on. These gogos lure customers in by offering draft beer at THB 65. LD was THB 160. Just seconds after I had finished my beer, the bar staff asked if I wanted another. Having had enough, I was planning to leave, so I said no to her. And then, when I told her that I didn't want another beer, she said "then goooo! The audacity! I was leaving anyway, but I did feel offended. (I am Indian, and I understand the stereotype after spending a few days in 3 of the most popular cities in Thailand. I like to think that I'm different. I travel alone, I am fit and young, clean, dress well and I go into a place only if I can afford it, so I don't have to cheap out. But then again, I bet every Indian here thinks the same about himself.).
But it still smarts when it happens to you.
There was was a massage parlour somewhere off Soi Buakhao. Really non-descript, and with one fat aunty and a younger, small petite one in a Santa costume. I asked the younger one how much for a full body massage. It was THB 300. I decided to go for it. Inside, I stripped naked and initiated sex. She reciprocated. But she was a starfish. But I have my own ways of making a starfish move. It's a combination of starting slow but progressing fast in a dominant manner. There were a couple of times where she said "Chiep, chiep", and I slowed down. Her boobs were surprisingly soft and supple and I took some time sucking and playing with them. Soft nipples, but not like the standard Asian type of small areolas but big nipples poking out. After barely 3 or 4 minutes of me sucking and licking her nipples and boobs, I could see her body getting turned on, and she put on a condom and opened her legs. Went in in missionary (I like to see their faces when I insert). Banged for like 5 minutes. Turned her around, got her on all 4's and dogged her hard and slapped her ass a few times. Came in doggy, and realized that I made the mistake of not negotiating how much for extras. She spoke NO English at all (literally nothing), and her mamasan did all the talking for her. Mamasan took advantage of the fact that we did not negotiate prior, and I ended up paying THB 800 for a sub-par starfish experience.
Next day I went to Route 66 bar on Soi 6 and was invited inside by Ning, who was a 6. 5 after I had my beer goggles on. Bought a beer for myself and one for her and we hung out, with her in my hand for like an hour or so. Got talking a bit. By this time, I was a little desperate (I had had a couple of massages earlier during the day but I didn't like the attitude of the ladies so I didn't proceed to specials). So I told her that I'd come back at 1 (when her work ended) to pick her up. We exchanged numbers. She got a little too attached, I think. Shit came up, and I didn't go back at 1. The next day, I woke up to find 15 missed calls and shit. She called when I was awake and I actually picked up. I gave her very simple instructions. Come to Soi 2. Now I don't expect them to be very smart, but come on, you can at least follow instructions to come to Soi 2. She wasted like half an hour trying to video call while she was on the road, and neither of us could hear each other very well. What little we could hear, we couldn't understand. In the video call, I saw in the background where she was. At this point, she wasn't a looker, didn't speak much English, and she had a bit of a tummy. I should have bailed, but junior took over and I raced on my scooter to pick her up. We came back to my room, I made up some bullshit story about why I couldn't come at 1 the previous night. We took a shower. While around, she was being very childish, giggling at stupid shit, running around the room expecting me to run behind her and shit like that. She was 30 but behaved like 13. Even in bed, she had no concept on sexy. Her idea of foreplay was getting naked, covering her boobs with her hands and giggling away to glory. I had to initiate everything and do all the work. I negotiated THB 800 and we finally fucked in miss and WOT. Nothing spectacular, really. I considered letting her go, but by the way she was behaving all childish, girly and giggly, I knew it would be a task. We took some rest. After 40 minutes, I wanted to do one more shot with her, but she wasn't sexy enough for junior to concentrate. So I took my laptop, put on some porn and set it on my bed beside her so I can see it while doing her. Did missionary and doggy and came soon. Was very unremarkable. I realized that the only way to get rid of her was to take her out for lunch and let her go after lunch. That way, no scenes are created at the hotel. Did exactly that.
But, during my last night in Pattaya, I was roaming around beach road when I saw a stunner (relatively, considering it was beach road). When I asked her, she said ST for THB 800. She had an air of arrogance around her, but she was much better than the rest. She spoke passable English, and she dressed much classier than the rest (not micro miniskirt, but a long gown that would not be very out of place at a cocktail party). She had her own car. We agreed on the price and I got into her car. She even turned on the AC! She must be doing well. I told her that she was too beautiful to work on the beach road, and that she would make more money in a bar. She seemed to take offence and went on a rant about how she likes her freedom. In a bar, old, fat and smelly customers would come and she wouldn't be able to refuse. On the beach road, she's just quote some exorbitant price to these old smelly fat people and they would go away. Made sense to me, and she had her own damn car. Perhaps she was right. As soon as we walked into the hotel (Sabai Lodge. I recommend it even though it's a little further from the action), she went to the reception to submit her ID on her own without any prompting. She fit right in with the crowd in the resort. In the room she undressed and we went for shower. Nice, handful of titties that didn't sag at all, a tiny bit of a tummy due to having a 6 year old. But she was an 8. 5 for me, and I didn't have my beer goggles on. Perhaps this may have been on the higher scale because of the relative disappointment in UTP so far. But it was my last night in UTP, and I'm glad I ended it on a high note. Being so beautiful, I was concerned that she might be a starfish. So I took precautions by turning up the foreplay to max settings. Usually when I P4P, I don't care about her. But when you have a potential starfish, you could turn her on with foreplay and she would respond and most of the time, reciprocate. I went to town on her nipples with every trick in the bag and soon enough, when she started gyrating her hips, started slowly but surely fingering her. Soon, she gushing wet. We had foreplay for around 12 minutes. Soon, she was begging me to get the condom and fuck her. Pounded her in missionary, doggie and WOT. She was amazing on WOT, squatting and doing powerful, deep thrusts. I blasted my load in the condom during WOT. It's been just under an hour since I had her, and I'm already getting a boner writing about it. I've always been a monger that focused on value for money. In my opinion, I don't think I've done better, and I don't think I ever will. A smart man once said that it's never about absolute performance. It's always about performance at a given price point. I had to convince her to stay for a couple of minutes after we were done. It looked like she had a very efficient modus operandi. It was one of the best experiences of my mongering life so far, and I believe UTP has redeemed itself. Goes to show that you can get diamonds in the rough in the beach road as well.
Thank you Thailand.
Attached pic of the last girl.
[QUOTE=Bbdbbd;2408670]I inquired with one of the worst (chubbiest) girls in Ninja gogo about how much she would set me back by. It was THB 1,500 for the BF and THB 3,500 for her LT. She was a 8 at best, and that was after I had my beer goggles on. These gogos lure customers in by offering draft beer at THB 65. LD was THB 160. Just seconds after I had finished my beer, the bar staff asked if I wanted another. Having had enough, I was planning to leave, so I said no to her. And then, when I told her that I didn't want another beer, she said "then goooo! The audacity! I was leaving anyway, but I did feel offended. (I am Indian, and I understand the stereotype after spending a few days in 3 of the most popular cities in Thailand. I like to think that I'm different. I travel alone, I am fit and young, clean, dress well and I go into a place only if I can afford it, so I don't have to cheap out. But then again, I bet every Indian here thinks the same about himself.).
[/QUOTE]It has nothing to do with race. You got entry into bar, girl was sitting next to you. If you're only going to buy 1 drink for you (65 b I assume) and 1 LD for girl, what more were you expecting.
[QUOTE=VegasGambler9;2408174]I'm scared of STI's. I really often wonder if the bar girls like on Soi 6 could really be any safer at all. Why would the bars really test the girls for STI's? I see no reason for them to test the girls.[/QUOTE]If you're paranoid about STIs, you picked a wrong hobby. As long as you follow the usual safe sex precautions, you'll be fine. There's still a small chance you might catch something, but it won't be AIDS. I'm sure you managed to get over a flu or strep throat a few times in your life so far, it's not life-changing.
It's useless to think about STI testing for girls. Indeed, the businesses don't have much incentive to test, except to tell paranoid customers they're testing (in which case, a doctor sign-off with no actual test would do just fine). The girls have every reason to keep working even if they test positive for something, nobody else is going to pay her bills (including the new medical expenses). Moreover, even if she was thoroughly tested every month and would have stopped working, she could still pass on an infection she got from one of the 50 customers since her last test.
Condoms, lube, wash before and immediately after sex, pee afterwards if you can, it's no rocket science.
Went down soi 6 yesterday to a bar with A/C at the very end on the right hand side. Entered, asked for if my regular girl is working. Was lucky so far. She showed up and I don't know why but asked how much is barfine. Got a really unexpected answer - 3 k. Asked if I got it right or she meant ST? No got it right. But day after so from 2nd Jan on it is back to 1 k.
I don't really get the sense but my answer was. So then see you tomorrow maybe.
Paid my friends beer and mine, and her drink and off we went.
Live long and prosper.
[QUOTE=Gargano19;2408797]It has nothing to do with race. You got entry into bar, girl was sitting next to you. If you're only going to buy 1 drink for you (65 b I assume) and 1 LD for girl, what more were you expecting.[/QUOTE]What do you mean what more was he expecting? So if I walk into McDonald's and comb over the menu and decide to just order a small coffee, they should tell me "Just Go!" after they give me my order?
You are right that it had nothing to do with race, and all to do with you only being there as an ATM. I have been told the exact same thing in stores when I have decided not to make a purchase. They get angry and say just go, as if I am not supposed to have a choice whether to spend my money there even if I do not see anything that I would like to buy.
You can not run a business by acting like you are doing the customer a favor by allowing him to spend his money there, and if he decides not to then you get angry and yell at him. Yeah. What more was that customer expecting?
This may be the wrong forum to post on but in the spirit of replying to you I post here.
You should visit Russia.
My last visit to Moscow was a revelation.
The Strip Bars were great and welcoming as were the massage places.
With the Russian Ruble being approx Rs. 1. 10/- to 1 Ruble it is a because effective country to monger in.
Language can be a barrier but Google Translate helped a lot.
Most Strip bars charged an entry of Rub 2000/- which included a lapdance. The Girls expect a tip of Rub 100 for every time they come to you and a session there would cost you Rub 6-7 K depending on the establishment and the girl you choose.
The Massage Parlour I visited in Moscow cost me Rub 5000 and the girls were the most beautiful I have met.
The overall vibe of the country is welcoming for Indians and paying the extra 10 k for a return air ticket is well worth it.
[QUOTE=BlrCity;2407959]Oh yeah! Which country might that be? India?
I doubt if these other countries actually exist.[/QUOTE]