Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=Revere;2128655]Many of you all are missing what is taking place in the DR. You have a new and exploding Dominican Hip Hop scene. If you have not heard of Cardi b, the hottest hip hop women artist in the game right now who happens to be Dominican, then you out of touch what is happening with young chicks. Go to a regular nightclub and see what happens when they throw a Cardi b song on. Chicks go crazy as she is singing about she do not fuck with cheap dudes.

Just to confirm what I am saying drive up the road to Puerto Plata on a Friday or Saturday night. The place is booming a lot of new nightclubs have opened on the malecoln. Hot chicks everywhere. Now, why do the hot chicks not come to sosua. They do not have too. They not coming to Sosua for a 1000 or 1500 peso hookup. If they thought they could get paid big money they be there. Just ask yourself why sosua not teeming with hot chicks right now. They can do better in the big cities. If I am wrong, why are there not a ton of hot chicks in sosua looking to get paid right now. It is like anything you have to make moves. You do not speak spainish, do not know how to dress the part, then you SOL in the hot nightclubs in the big cities. Do not be mad at me for saying it just look at the market conditions. You go to Puerto Plata right now it's booming. You try to be cheap with a chick she is voting with her feet and chicks have voted. Time for the mayor to realize and be more nightclub friendly.[/QUOTE]The important thing to bear in mind, is that what you say applies ONLY to those men that fit the criteria. There'll be others it won't apply or simply it is not an issue for them on what is going on elsewhere.

You asked why are "hot chicks" not going to Sosua right now? Who determined which chicks were hot from those who were not, for ALL men? I for one have not seen any identification or markings on any chick in Sosua or PP identifying her as hot or not. Attraction, sex appeal etc is a subjective entity. An individual male will make that determination on what he finds attractive / hot. As for the hot chicks in PP, a guy can't miss what he can't measure. And if them chicks think they are worth so much more, then that's their choice. It won't be like that forever. Many a female has been humbled by the realities of life, meanwhile the thing they hunt (a mans wealth) usually out lasts their beauty.

How many chicks (pass 27) are in Sosua now who used to "hunt" elsewhere for a mans money, but have come back to Sosua or now use the internet or other means? The same ones who had a couple of kids along the way and no longer look "hot" like they used to?

What a man can measure, are the chicks that did make it their business to come to Sosua and get paid according to what they negotiate. Still a decent income compared to many folks working a regular job. Chicks in Sosua are doing their thang, and chicks in PP are doing theirs. Everybody is doing and enjoying what works for them.

For the average man in his 50's, 60's and 70's, and there are many, come for vacation in Sosua, live in Sosua or are contemplating on it. Does anybody think they are pining over hot girls in PP? The truth is, just men in those age groups I mentioned, are likely extremely lucky that they spend time with women much younger than them. PERIOD.

Something to ponder. In our individual circles certain concerns are there. In some circles men are complaining that there arent any hot chicks that meet their standards in Sosua. Men like me understand that. But that is their problem to work out. In other circles, enough men are saying they don't care about those fly ass diva types. Their experience and shared reports with other men has lead them to believe, an average chick is more likely to offer better service more consistently than the diva types stuck on themselves. And with that, the PSA message about Hot chicks in PP may fall mostly on indifferent ears (of course that means to whom it applies).

Give them hot chicks 5 yrs, and we will see how much value hip hop and night clubs mean to them then. When you got to eat, keep a roof over your head, and your appearance is on the decline, stability from a good source trumps frivilousness in a night club, (in the long run.) It is my opinion a lot of these women age like dog years. They only have a small window in which to work with. Two major assets when they have their youth. Beauty and a mans vulnerability against his own best interests. Their enemy? Their beauty fading, and aware men not allowing themselves to pay more than what its worth.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2128957] For the average man in his 50's, 60's and 70's,.....men in those age groups, are likely extremely lucky that they spend time with women much younger than them.

In other circles, enough men are saying they don't care about those fly ass diva types. Their experience and shared reports with other men has lead them to believe, an average chick is more likely to offer better service more consistently than the diva types stuck on themselves. [/QUOTE]I thought this message was thoughtful and sensible and the two points quoted above resonated with me in particular.

Back home, it would be impossible to find women in their 20's looking at me, unless we are talking of being a "sugar daddy" / a continued financial presence, for which I have no stomach. I am also jaded enough, to give the word "love" a wide berth.

Based on my experience, I would also agree that average women, tend to give better service compared to prima donnas. Gogo stated it more succinctly while we were chatting: women with smaller breasts work harder than those having larger breasts!

To my mind, the whole island is a treasure trove: if one is mobile and has some linguistic skills (both kinds), it is possible to find a satisfactory love life, on the island.

I think we getting into semantics here. All I am saying in the past Sosua was teeming with hot chicks. Yes or no? Let's start there the streets would be packed with hot young chicks. Now, go on pedro and that is not the case. Yes or no? Now, I gave my reason for why that has happened. I could be wrong, but right now if you go in to Puerto Plata tonight and hit a club called Calle 16 you will see tremendous talent. No comparison to what is happening in sosua right now tonight. We can talk about what that hot chick will look like in 5 years, but as diddy says I do not want the Chrysler that looks like the Phantom I want the Phantom. I am just not the type to go all that way and settle and try to justify it with some analogy. Trust me I will be at Calle 16 on Sunday night picking my Phantom. We all have our tastes.

[QUOTE=Revere;2129032]Trust me I will be at Calle 16 on Sunday night picking my Phantom. We all have our tastes.[/QUOTE]The question is, where are these Phantoms in the daytime? It is the same in Santo Domingo. If you go to certain clubs on certain nights, your jaw will drop. But no idea why I don't see these chicks out in the daytime. Unless it is just the way they fix themselves up to go clubbing that is throwing me off from how they really look in the day hours.

[QUOTE=Revere;2128655]
You do not speak spainish, do not know how to dress the part, then you SOL in the hot nightclubs in the big cities. Do not be mad at me for saying it just look at the market conditions. You go to Puerto Plata right now it's booming. You try to be cheap with a chick she is voting with her feet and chicks have voted.[/QUOTE]2017: learn Spanish so you won't be the sucker that pays gringo prices. Keep the chica union in check, let us all stick to X pesos ST and YY pesos LT.

2018: learn Spanish so you can pay the high prices. If you can't beat the chica union, you got to join the chica union.

Revere is tapped into the club scene so I respect what he saying but there are also dynamics in play not discussed. The Puerto Plata scene is hot locally for Dominicans because the POP girls can / will not go to Sosua at night. The Santo Domingo weekend warriors are clicked up and don't play. Before every girl was local. Ask pre 2012 and they would proudly say they were from POP, La Union or Montellano. Now 80 percent say they are from SD. The girls turned to their local scene to party and not compete with the rough clicked up SD girls. Now if you skirt the putter bars of Sosua you will still see a few leftovers from the local scene laying low.

Cardi B is the hottest thing out right now and I like her, but she is also a self professed trick and stripper. She is also with Onset who has been caught cheating on her. Her image is "I will fuck for money and talk shit, but I will let a young dude take advantage of my low esteem and dog me out for nothing". That's what's happening now with young girls in the hip hop scene. Old dudes will pay but young dudes with status can treat them like shit for free.

If you speak the language and dress the part but are an old do then you will still pay. Young Dominican dudes don't pay.

Now there is a silver lining for us old dudes who have run out of dresses to give these hot young things. It's an emerging older group of Dominican women who still look good and have style as they hold on go what they once had. The Dominican dudes don't want these girls. These girls don't go to hip hop clubs but rather stay home and cook and raise kids. They mainly visit the neighborhood commando on Friday night to gossip, sip a beer and maybe dance. They also have big wet pussies which I like that are under serviced. So guys you can deal with some crazy young girl and hope / pay for a good experience or move up to the 30-40 age group and pluck something more stable. Just my take on things.

[QUOTE=BrotherP;2128895]Returned 1/6 from 2 wks in sosua. Had a great time! I've been there every Christmas since 2012. This was the slowest by far, but I still had a blast! There were enough chicas but not an abundance. Not too many guys either, a few came in the last few days, but nothing crazy. I laughed when you said chicas were complaining about low prices. Of course guys are going to low ball when things are slow. But I know from experience chicas have a hord time understanding and accepting that they won't always get "my price". I predict there will be less guys traveling in next few yrs, because money is getting tight in the states. I'm hearing there going to close rumbas as soon as it opens. We shall see. All in all I still luv my little beach town. Be back soon! Peace![/QUOTE]So far this year there hasn't been one day when it hasn't rained really hard, or looked like it was going to, and that has kept a lot of folks off the street, except for Saturday night when everybody was out like they'd just got out of jail.

The beach on Saturday was jumping so much, I spent most of the day there, for the first time ever. Music and impromptu dancing! My PP chica joined the band.

More European guys in town than usual (they must know something!) plenty of "hot" women available to take right off the street, but I got my latest two 10's on call, after I send my PP chica home. They are always up for anything. I'm in pussy heaven!

For this old guy, every thing I love and need is around the corner, or a phone call away. Good food, good swimming, good friends, and hot chicas. No need to drive or taxi every day. I usually visit PP and Cab, but I honestly haven't found the need since I've been back.

As for the clubs, count me out. We have clubs at home, but clubs are a whole different scene, no need to go half way around the world to spend big money on divas with attitude. Especially at my age, LOL.

Last night they had lights in Rumba and some work was being done. If it opens for Superbowl that would bring a lot of Americans down, but I'm not sure if more crowds will improve Susua for me. I rarely go to Rumba anyway.

One of my old hoe friends came by where I was and we chatted I asked her If she'd like a beer, she said no and rubbed her belly. I gave her 500 pesos and said, "change!" I thought she was going accross the street, she just hollered at a MC and sent him off. 5 minutes later he came back with a full take out meal, and she gave me 300 pesos back. Turns out she sent him to the same place up the street where I pick up my fried chicken.

There really are 3 prices for everything in Sosua!.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2129055]The question is, where are these Phantoms in the daytime? It is the same in Santo Domingo. If you go to certain clubs on certain nights, your jaw will drop. But no idea why I don't see these chicks out in the daytime. Unless it is just the way they fix themselves up to go clubbing that is throwing me off from how they really look in the day hours.[/QUOTE]You raise a an interesting point. I recall several years ago when Passions and CMP were open. They used to have some fly ass women up in there. In my early days of coming to Sosua on vacation (my learning curve) I was thinking they were importing these women from somewhere.

But what opened my eyes, is that I started seeing those same women in the day time walking around with no make up, no fancy clothes, no high heels, a hair net (tube). Plain Jane. Them muggs were ordinary chicks. That there re-opened my eyes from what I already knew about the women in the clubs back in the day in the states. Back then many or most men elevated womens value based on the exterior facade that they portrayed. Meanwhile underneath all of that makeup, hair, clothes, high heels, was usually just a regular chick.

Today on the North coast, Pica Flor, is a good example of the same thing. You take off their makeup, high heels, tight provactive clothes, put their hair up in a tube, and all you got is an average chick. With that type of exposure, you don't see any reason to pay them 100 USD for 4 hrs, 150 for overnight. It's just an illusion.

As for the hot chicks in PP, SD or wherever they are, they are no exception. You strip them of the facade they are using to elevate their value, and all you got is an average chick. Further, once a dude gets a chance to hit it once, her value plummets with that man immediately. Her value is strongest with the men that never had her. Ask any man who has had very attractive women that he's fucked ad nauseum.

All them chicks up in the clubs, their strongest value / asset is towards the men that haven't fucked them, yet. And if any of those chicks are giving up the pussy to local men for free or a huge discount, that in of itself will reduce her value in the eyes of the men she's targeting (that have the superior resources.).

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2129055]Unless it is just the way they fix themselves up to go clubbing that is throwing me off from how they really look in the day hours.[/QUOTE]Mr. E,

You nailed it! The day / night transition of girls (in Santo Domingo at least) is dramatic. You know I'm here all the time. I spend most of my time hunting for non pros during the day. Girls just going about their daily business. And you do have to use some imagination when looking at them during the day, because the night club / date package will be much nicer. I have never had a girl show up for a date looking like they do during the day. Even the poorest barrio girls have their one outfit they look great in. They will get friends to help them do their hair and nails and they will come out looking as stunning as humanly possible for them.

I'm a muscle car guy. The type that prefers performance over appearance. You know the kind of rough around the edges street machine that will blow the doors off the pretty boy's imported machine in the 1/8 mile. Who said everyone has their tastes. Holla! LOL!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2129055]The question is, where are these Phantoms in the daytime? It is the same in Santo Domingo. If you go to certain clubs on certain nights, your jaw will drop. But no idea why I don't see these chicks out in the daytime.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Revere;2129032] We all have our tastes.[/QUOTE]Revere, if we all have our tastes, and you actually believe that, then does your position make sense, that there are no hot chicks in Sosua? This isn't a semantics game, it's just common sense. Either you believe we all have our tastes or you don't. But its not your call to choose or identify for other men what they consider hot, attractive, or adequate for their needs in Sosua.

I used this analogy in the past here. Some folks remind me of someone who sits down next to you while you are eating. They complain about how bad the food is in the place, and that they know a better restaurant where the food is off the chain. While you are enjoying your food, they proceed to tell you how nasty your food tastes to you. They want you to feel the same way about your food, that they did with the food they had.

My thing is this. I am in agreement with you that we all have our tastes. If the food here doesn't do anything for you, you don't have to broadcast it, you don't have to tell me how nasty my meal is to me. Go where you feel that fulfills your needs. Nobody needs a dissertation on why someone doesn't like this or that anymore. Everybody isn't trying to do what other people do. Especially if the station in life of each party are worlds apart. Many men may not be into night clubbing and HIP HOP like other folks. They may enjoy more simplistic entertainment or means to hooking up. Hanging out at a night club may be a distraction or even a time waster for some folks.

If someone believes we all have our tastes, then I think it should reflect in how they carry themselves. They go about their business enjoying, not appearing as if they are trying to recruit other people to participate in what they are doing. BTW the answer to your question. Are there hot chicks coming to Sosua, and on Pedro Clisante these days? The answer is yes. You know how I know? Because we all have our tastes. Are there chicks in Sosua or PC that arent hot? The answer is yes. You know how I know? Because we all have our tastes.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2129183]As for the hot chicks in PP, SD or wherever they are, they are no exception. You strip them of the facade they are using to elevate their value, and all you got is an average chick. Further, once a dude gets a chance to hit it once, her value plummets with that man immediately. Her value is strongest with the men that never had her. Ask any man who has had very attractive women that he's fucked ad nauseum.[/QUOTE]Mr. Wrx2005, I couldn't agree with you more. There is that saying every hot girl has at least one man saying FDB!

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2129183]All them chicks up in the clubs, their strongest value / asset is towards the men that haven't fucked them, yet. And if any of those chicks are giving up the pussy to local men for free or a huge discount, that in of itself will reduce her value in the eyes of the men she's targeting (that have the superior resources.).[/QUOTE]And you know these women are giving it up to local men for free and a huge discount. But, I actually doubt it reduces her value in the eyes of men she's targeting if they don't know that's what's happening. If that's the case most sexual tourists are engaged self delusion. Just a thought.

Wow! I must of woke up in the twilight zone this morning. I'm agreeing with Mr. E and Mr. Wrx2005. Must be the sunshine and fresh ocean air. LOL!

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2129183]
But what opened my eyes, is that I started seeing those same women in the day time walking around with no make up, no fancy clothes, no high heels, a hair net (tube). Plain Jane. Them muggs were ordinary chicks. That there re-opened my eyes from what I already knew about the women in the clubs back in the day in the states. Back then many or most men elevated womens value based on the exterior facade that they portrayed. Meanwhile underneath all of that makeup, hair, clothes, high heels, was usually just a regular chick.

[/QUOTE]Yes, of course this is true, and obvious, but when you are new to the DR it may take a while to catch on.

I remember many years ago being gobsmacked when a slim chica who was a cashier at a supermarket in Puerto Plata exchanged eye glances and flirty looks even though I was in line three cash registers over, and wrote her name and number on a scrap of paper, and passed it over to me. What kind of place is this, I thought. But then much later I realized that she was probably one of the chicas who gets dolled up and takes the late night taxi down to Sosua to find a man for extra cash, and that perhaps she recognized me and knew of me, or that probably she considered me a prospect because of the man I was with in the supermarket, who is well-known in Puerto Plata or Sosua. Remember, when you are in that area, you are the hunted, not the hunter. As far as girls forsaking Sosua for nightclubs in Puerto Plata? Maybe, but if they are looking for male companionship for money, they will always go where the money is. If it is true that they are avoiding Sosua, it could be because they don't like the clientele in Sosua, and can do better elsewhere. Not the music.

I do think Revere has good intention and that he was only trying to guide fellow travelers along a path that he thinks others may like. It is that spirit that counts, while you folks write your comments on his thoughts.

Personally, I have a problem with "Hip Hop" music and similar genres. In fact, I think it has done more harm to a certain segment of a population but this is not the forum to speak of it. I think the Hispanic music is beautiful (Bachata and Salsa, I cannot follow Merengue, too fast of a tempo) and it is a shame they are all giving up on that tradition to follow a miasma. In any case, I would not go to a place where the music is deafening with language which often is course, no matter how pretty the women are (in the dark of course while I am fortified with alcohol) but that is me. I would stick to the island in general, which has plenty of "diamonds in the rough".

[QUOTE=Frannie;2129202]As far as girls forsaking Sosua for nightclubs in Puerto Plata? Maybe, but if they are looking for male companionship for money, they will always go where the money is. If it is true that they are avoiding Sosua, it could be because they don't like the clientele in Sosua, and can do better elsewhere. Not the music.[/QUOTE]Some other variables comes to mind. But 1st I would question, who interviewed ALL of these women going to night clubs in Puerto Plata? Are there any plain Jane chicks going to the night club in PP? If so, what's their story?

Who accounted for every chicks reason for being in a PP night club, instead of going to Sosua? It could easily be a simple matter of preference or convenience. Close proximity to where they live. Choosing to avoid the stigma women get for coming to Sosua. Afraid of being spotted in Sosua by family. Perhaps it's beneath them to stay in some raggedy hotel with other women just because they don't have a client / date. Maybe they arent playing the music they like in Sosua, and not much dancing going on either? But again, I still say. No man can miss what he can not measure.

A man aint missing out on Thai, Filipina, Colombian, Cuban, German, African, or any other woman just because those women exist in those other places. Right now there are a shitload of fine ass women dancing in an Atlanta strip club right now. Does it make sense to be concerned about NOT being with any of those women? I'd like to be fucking the chick I met in the Philippines tonight. But am I missing anything because I can't be there?

Men have to use their brain and not be clouded by emotion. For enough men that vacation in Sosua, everything they need is right there. Airport close, check. Food shopping close, check. Nice beach to hang out all day, check. Women available day and night to get ones loins exercised for young and old farts, check Many hotels to choose from, check. Most anything one needs is within walking distance, check. People who do not like or enjoy smoky environments, maybe don't drink or like to be around those that do, can find alternative things to occupy their time, check.

Taking all of that into consideration, would an individual with all of those conveniences in place really be missing anything not going to a night club in PP just so he can say he enjoyed OTHER hot chicks who are crazy about HIP HOP? Here's something else to consider.

If a guy goes to PP one night, and meets a hot chick up in the club, exchanges numbers, and she agrees to visit him in Sosua, fucks him in his hotel, what does that say about her now? Weve already established what were dealing with. The venue we meet them at, or score with them at, has no significance, in changing what they may represent to us eventually.

How many hot chicks that have gone to a night club has already fucked a bunch of men that they connected to by FB, Tagged or Badoo? Them chicks in PP aint no new or better juice. It's the same juice in a different package/venue.

Many thanks for the many reports! I RTTF! LOL! Was in Sosua / POP / Cabarete a few years back and had a good time!

Heading down again next week and was wondering about current best practices regarding currency. ATM? Bring cash along with me? Any advantage to either exchanging for DOP at a bank, street or shops? Also if it is best to bring CDN $ to DR or exchange to USD before leaving Canada?

Any recommendations on GREAT fish or lobster places and any recommendations on non-mongering activities?