Angeles City

[QUOTE=DCups;2811342]Perhaps the ol chap has alzheimers or some other memory problem. Or maybe this is how he gets his jollies. I dunno. Anyway, G, I will be in Angeles May 19 -23. Are you there then? Cheers.[/QUOTE]I'll be there from mid August to mid September, Angeles and Pattaya.

Grabbed a trike and headed towards WS, got a good 3/4 there then the traffic was just stopped. Hopped out and started walking. Went into one of those bars before WS called Insomnia. Was packed full of cute girls on a late visit where I saw this one cute girl who came and sat on my friends lap. Wanted to go back and check her out, saw her right before I left. The beer goggles must have been working pretty good the first night. Absolutely no ass and not as cute as I remembered. I remember the girl saying the barfine was 3200 the last time we were there, there were a few decent looking girls. Never know what gems you might find. Wasn't worth sticking around so made a short walk to WS.

Made my way to Kokomos and ordered a few beers and some food. Lots of people walking up and down, not as many girls being led away by Koreans as their normally is. Took me a second but when I glanced into the street looking at people walking by I realized there were no trikes waiting in line. Then I glance again a few minutes later and they are all back, must be a time when they are allowed to line up now? After that I swung into Scooters next door, bar full of girls. They really have a few hidden jems in here, would have easy grabbed a couple of them. A foreigner was sitting on the bar and must have bought ladydrinks for 4 of the girls onstage, as they were dancing I saw a few bend down and drink some drinks. They then got off stage and all stood around the guy. So I'm sitting there watching the girls dancing when two Korean guys come in and sit next to me and get their drinks. They sat there for a few minutes when a seat on the opposite side of where I was sitting opens up and as one they both stood up and moved to that seat. But the oddest thing was they both left their drinks on the other table like they both expected the wait staff to bring them over. One waitress grabbed one drink and the bill and brought it over then made a move to put a tissue under that drink which left the other guys drink sitting across the room. Man he was staring down that drink like it wasn't being brought over fast enough. Never in my life have I seen two guys in a bar in Asia do this. You want to move to another seat the routine is you gather up your drink and walk to the other seat. Maybe this is looking down on Filipinos as below them. Wonder if they do the same in Korea.

Made my way over to Lucifers to meet a friend and in tern many of his buddies who live in Angeles. These guys come from all walks of life, guessing because its easier to get the necessary visas here compared to say Thailand. Only been in Lucifiers once or twice, they do have some cute girls but by 10 pm on a Saturday so so many have already been barfined. Doesn't help that their beer prices are 40 pesos higher than the surrounding bars. Around midnight the remaining group headed over to Viking bar and again many many of the girls were gone already leaving just a dozen or so girls and the ladyboys they allow to work in there. I ended up barfining one of the remaining girls who I had bought drinks for months ago, she kept giving me looks. First thing she does is start to play with little breadman under the table. Said to me she hadn't been barfined in 2 weeks so I'm guessing that's why the looks. I'm betting she was barely 4'10", little baby fat from having a baby just over a year ago. Grabbed a trike and headed back to my apartment to end the night. Or so I thought. Had my fun in the bed, very nice little body she had and I assumed she'd want to sleep after that but she cleans up and starts getting dressed. Its now after 3 am and I live on a darkish side street and she thinks she'll just walk out and find a trike like that. Couldn't let her walk by herself so I walked her up to where the trikes normally sit. To find none. So another short walk to the main street where other trikes sit. To find none. Luckily two came around the corner so she could get back to the bar or wherever it is she sleeps.

All in all a normal Saturday in Angeles, somewhat devoid of girls with all of the guys grabbing them up. Normally just a night to go out and drink a few beers. If your looking for hot talent then its best to hunt in the early afternoon.

[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2810397]It's not such a crazy idea. US Military presence is starting to make a comeback in Luzon. If Western mongers vote with their feet I can see Subic as an alternative to Angeles. Smaller but more Western friendly.

I was trying to warn everyone about AC last summer so it's gratifying to see all these reports confirming my take-away. I wonder what is animating these die-hard AC Boosters other than sheer stubbornness and male reactive tendencies? It's so much easier to get laid in Thailand- not even a contest. No way in hell I'd ever go back to AC other than out of morbid curiosity on my way through Luzon.[/QUOTE]Many, many members have been reporting the demise of angeles city as a mongering destination for the last few years, especially from the time our korean friends started to visit angeles and take over the town.

I think the devide between those westerners that visit angeles and have a good time and those that don't comes down to the obvious fact that some mongers have great taste in women and higher standards and some guys will fuck anything with a pulse as long as their getting laid, and adding more notches to the bed post.

It is what it is, many claim online I only fuck young stunners, my girls all stay long time, all my girls are porn stars in bed, I pay less than everyone else for my girls etc, its human nature for men to boast, who in their right mind would openly admit they can only attract the lowest kind of old fatties to their bed even by paying handsomely and travelling half way around the world.

Best advice, make a recent visit, look at what type of women the westerners are sitting next to in the bars, what type of women they have on their arm after a night out, what type of woman they are having breakfast with in the morning, I think most would be shocked at how far some are willing to lower the bar to in order to get laid.

[QUOTE=PeteAppleSeed;2811798]I'll be there from mid August to mid September, Angeles and Pattaya.[/QUOTE]PAS: Hoping you can pick up the pace for me when you are in town. I slow down as I age. So many PYT's. Get in there fella, there's no wrong way to vax or booster (seen here above and below treatment options).

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2812708]Best advice, make a recent visit, look at what type of women the westerners are sitting next to in the bars, what type of women they have on their arm after a night out, what type of woman they are having breakfast with in the morning, I think most would be shocked at how far some are willing to lower the bar to in order to get laid.[/QUOTE]Why? I am only interested in the women that I want. I do not care what other people are doing whether they are locals, Koreans, or Westerners. Do you also go to restaurants and look on everybody else's table to see what they decided to eat? And when you see they did not choose the same meal that you did, then what? Will you be up for some type of award or increased money to your bank account? To each their own.

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[QUOTE=Breadman;2812632] If your looking for hot talent then its best to hunt in the early afternoon.[/QUOTE]Good to know. I am not a late night guy anyway. Sometime you get lucky early morning, too. I mean, I have. Something for the morning wood haha. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Breadman;2812632]If your looking for hot talent then its best to hunt in the early afternoon.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DCups;2812860]Good to know. I am not a late night guy anyway. Sometime you get lucky early morning, too. I mean, I have. Something for the morning wood haha. Cheers.[/QUOTE]This would jibe with my experience late last year there. The number of gents (and people in general), on all of WS over to Teodoro St, the foot traffic was picking up in the late afternoon, maxxed in the 6-8 pm range, and was paltry by 10-11 pm. I believe I posted pics of a nearly empty WS, from both ends, about 11 pm, and on a weekend. Can't say it is the same now, but it appears from reports here that early evening is the draw for the most GRO. Get busy and hit something.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2812760]Why? I am only interested in the women that I want. I do not care what other people are doing whether they are locals, Koreans, or Westerners. Do you also go to restaurants and look on everybody else's table to see what they decided to eat? And when you see they did not choose the same meal that you did, then what? Will you be up for some type of award or increased money to your bank account? To each their own.[/QUOTE]I think you will find that even if one is a little bit fussy in women choice then what the koreans and other asians are doing plays a very big part in what you and other westerners can get laid by, why, because as said by almost everyone the koreans are the girls no1 choice by a long long way.

Again, as far as looking at other guys meals in restaurants of course I and many others do this just last week I walked into a restaurant I had not been into in years, on being shown to our seats I looked at another guests Tbone steak with all the trimmings and went right ahead and told the waitress ill have what that guy over there has ordered, it looks delicious, again many guys in passing or taking a nearby seat have asked me what's that your eating, I think ill have the same.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2812778]Thank you Professor once again for the academics.

As they say those that do, do.

Those that dont, teach.[/QUOTE]Its funny how some make a trip once every few years for a couple of days / hours and then spend the rest of their time trying to correct those of us that live, work and are out most nights in angeles, no I'm no expert, but I'm here, I'm out and I'm reporting on exactly what I see on the town which is exactly the whole point of this board.

Now lets see what's happening on the town for those that are home watching reruns of trike patrol and youtube videos and playing the online experts.

Many girls have not returned to the bars after their trips home for easter which was some weeks ago, will they return, who knows, many western bars are very quiet indeed with many completely empty on many visits, its amazing how some owners keep the lights on in many bars, maybe digging deep into their own pockets to pay the bills till they can sell out to the koreans who seem to be the only guys buying bars or any kind of other business in angeles.

2 or 3 of the korean orientated bars seem to be busy in the evenings with bums on seats and guys spending large on the girls in the bar, of course the silver vans are scooping up the better looking girls for the koreans who want dine in pussy, I'm told by many korean bar owners and managers that the vans are getting more popular by the day.

Drink sluts, korean only girls, cherrie girls are of course still alive and well in most bars visited over the last few days.

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Whats happening in angeles city for those that are not here.

Had some severe storms and heavy rain over the weekend, think it was Saturday evening when the heavens opened up, obviously bar hopping in such conditions are not much fun.

The town during the week is almost dead for visiting punters, few older expats out in their normal haunts of geckos bar and lollipop bar but that's it, most other western bars are dead for punters with very few girls in the bars.

Weekends tends to pick up a bit but only in number of asian punter in korean orientated bars, western bars quiet.

Last few barhops popped our heads into, paro paro bar, shooters bar, geckos bar, la bamba bar, lollipop bar, mostly only stayed for the 1 drink for ourselves with none of us buying any lady drinks as girl choice was poor to say the least.

Punters drink prices are around the 120 peso to 180 peso mark for local beer, ask for imported beer or top shelf shorts and the price goes up sharply, girl drinks (normally juice) in many bars is 300 peso with some bars that have a few lookers demanding 350 pesos for girl drinks.

Best deal on local beer prices on walking street was at high quality bar where they have a 90 peso beer price for punters between 9 pm and 2 am I think, the girl drinks though are 300 peso all night, its an ok bar, few girls on stage but no real lookers.

Due to low numbers hammer disco and some of the others are closed during the week, open on Saturday nights for sure but not sure about Fridays as did not try to visit then, quite busy on Saturdays but mainly bring your own girls.

Q bar, avalon bar, sky bar and bar atlantis all had a few younger slim lookers, obviously if one is not asian and throwing money around big time then the girls pay no attention, couple of my young japanese clients I was bar hopping with over the weekend had good luck with a couple of very reasonable looking girls from qbar (not stunners but best of the night), at first they would not barfine but after many drinks bought for them and a food and beer party promised back at abc hotel the girls agreed.

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Just returned from a 1 week visit, my first time back since 2016. I should note between 2009-2016 I made about 30 visits and also note that I am a 39 year old white retired army, decent shape, average looks at best but not disgusting. With all that said, I must say, Angeles is not as bad as some are making it seem! Yes the prices have gone up to 3500-5000 per barfine, yes there are Koreans there but they are all out during the day, not at night and I never felt like they were getting any special attention I wasn't. It's also true there are like half the girls that were there 10 years ago and half the bars but I had no problem finding a girl I liked every night. I guess it all depends what you like. The Korean guys like the super shy, super inexperienced and young girls who do what they say and moan at a 3 inch cock. If you like that type of girl, then you have to go out during the day because those girls like Koreans and then yes, you will not be their first choice. I went out at 5 pm one day because I was in the mood for this type of girl and when I tried to barfine one, she was super scared and made me promise her I didn't have a big dick. Oh and the sex was terrible, she was in pain and just layed there almost crying (and I was ridiculously slow and easy).

I like the fun girls, the ones that like to joke and party. These girls are not going with Korean guys and they don't start their shift until 6 or 7 pm. I'd barfine a couple every night then bring them to megadance and have fun all night. I never felt I was settling on quality. Definately not as many to choose from than years ago but still not a problem to find one.

In summation, yes if you knew Angeles 10 years ago or more and trying to compare then you feel sour. But Angeles is still far better than anything you will find back in the states and I think still worth it for sure! Oh and I was never once asked short time or long time but any of the 11 girls I had last week. All were long time like usual. Maybe that's just a daytime girl thing? (Ie- Korean loving girl thing).

Also I can confirm that megadance and hammer are open at least on wed, Thurs weekdays, though they close at 4 am. I went there on those days. It was also odd to see Atlantis and dollhouse closed on Monday night. I know mondays were typically slow but they were always open in the past.

[QUOTE=WalkAboutBoyz;2814097]Just returned from a 1 week visit, my first time back since 2016. I should note between 2009-2016 I made about 30 visits and also note that I am a 39 year old white retired army, decent shape, average looks at best but not disgusting. With all that said, I must say, Angeles is not as bad as some are making it seem! Yes the prices have gone up to 3500-5000 per barfine, yes there are Koreans there but they are all out during the day, not at night and I never felt like they were getting any special attention I wasn't. It's also true there are like half the girls that were there 10 years ago and half the bars but I had no problem finding a girl I liked every night. I guess it all depends what you like. The Korean guys like the super shy, super inexperienced and young girls who do what they say and moan at a 3 inch cock. If you like that type of girl, then you have to go out during the day because those girls like Koreans and then yes, you will not be their first choice. I went out at 5 pm one day because I was in the mood for this type of girl and when I tried to barfine one, she was super scared and made me promise her I didn't have a big dick. Oh and the sex was terrible, she was in pain and just layed there almost crying (and I was ridiculously slow and easy).

I like the fun girls, the ones that like to joke and party. These girls are not going with Korean guys and they don't start their shift until 6 or 7 pm. I'd barfine a couple every night then bring them to megadance and have fun all night. I never felt I was settling on quality. Definately not as many to choose from than years ago but still not a problem to find one.

In summation, yes if you knew Angeles 10 years ago or more and trying to compare then you feel sour. But Angeles is still far better than anything you will find back in the states and I think still worth it for sure! Oh and I was never once asked short time or long time but any of the 11 girls I had last week. All were long time like usual. Maybe that's just a daytime girl thing? (Ie- Korean loving girl thing).

Also I can confirm that megadance and hammer are open at least on wed, Thurs weekdays, though they close at 4 am. I went there on those days. It was also odd to see Atlantis and dollhouse closed on Monday night. I know mondays were typically slow but they were always open in the past.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your report.

I think you will find that hammer night club will start closing during the week as from last Saturday, confirmed by security and management, before then open most days, the change from last weekend in opening times going forward is why I reported on it in my last post in order to keep the board up to date.

Find that many asians are out in the bars both day and night, qbar, avalon bar, atlantis bar, were all busy with asians as their only customers between 8-11 pm most weekend nights, maybe you did not visit these bars at weekend during these times.

Atlantis bar and dollhouse bar have been closed on mondays for some months now.

Have to fully agree with you that dependent on how high one sets the girl bar directly affects how much attention and fun one has and definately agree that angeles of yester year was a totally different place.

Again thanks for taking the time to let us know your thoughts, happy mongering.