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[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2304328]Why people can't stick to this simple rule, I will never know. For chicas on social media, Most of the time an offer of 150 mil will be greeted with acceptance or at most a counteroffer, at which time you can decide if its worth it. Never ask.[/QUOTE]Because they may say something lower. Prime example. My girlfriend just left for work. It will be a couple of months before I see her again. I was about to give her 100K. Before I did that she asked me for 50K because she needed to buy something. I saved myself 50K by letting her talk first. Had she asked for 300K, I could have always said I only have 100K.
Just like shopping. You don't just walk up with an offer for the stuff that is being sold. You usually ask how much a person wants for a product before you start your haggling.
Of course 150K would be greeted with acceptance, because it is too damn much! I remember when the exchange rate was 1600 pesos to the USD. Would you have been walking around all willy nilly offering chicks $93 back then? The exchange rate is 3100 now, but you never know when that mf will swing back down. And here you have gotten chicks used to getting 150K. Don't shoot yourself in the foot. Many here have reported chicks online for as low and 60K and 80K.
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[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2304328]Why people can't stick to this simple rule, I will never know. For chicas on social media, Most of the time an offer of 150 mil will be greeted with acceptance or at most a counteroffer, at which time you can decide if its worth it. Never ask.[/QUOTE]It works either way. If the girl is telling guys she wants $550 USD, she's not going to jump on 150 k or 200 k COP, just because someone told her that's what he pays, instead of asking what she wants.
No matter which way you start the negotiation, you have the ability to walk away.
Instead of worrying about whether to ask her price, or to tell your price, people should work on moving on to the next girl. Those girls wanting $200 or more don't need your money. At $200, she only needs 1 guy to say yes every 3 weeks. At $550, 1 time every 6 weeks and she's doing okay. Leave them for the guys who are happy to pay.
They aren't doing anything unusual by asking those prices. Last night in Miami, New York, Chicago and Los Angeles, among other places, there were women getting paid $10,000, even though plenty of pussy can be found for $200. Tonight it will repeat.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2304465]The exchange rate is 3100 now, but you never know when that mf will swing back down. And here you have gotten chicks used to getting 150K. Don't shoot yourself in the foot. Many here have reported chicks online for as low and 60K and 80K.[/QUOTE]Excellent point and good advice! Many sex tourists think short term. Like another guy was saying, when he flies to Colombia for a weekend, he doesn't have time to haggle or waste time bargain shopping. He is willing to pay a premium to save time. That coupled with guys thinking in their local currency tends to fool them into thinking they are paying a good price, even if it is 2 or 3 times more than what others are paying. But it's your money and you have the right to spend it how you like, even if others think you are overpaying.
We often assume most guys understand the Colombia currency and / or the full concept of geographical arbitrage, but these are not things that can be easily spoon fed through Google translate. Even if the dollar weakened, it wouldn't affect a lot of these folks because they have so much deposable income, but it would affect some.
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Is 150 mil overnight and multiple shots rate, or an hour rate? Thanks.
[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2304328]Why people can't stick to this simple rule, I will never know. For chicas on social media, Most of the time an offer of 150 mil will be greeted with acceptance or at most a counteroffer, at which time you can decide if its worth it. Never ask.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Starlord1;2304150]Never ask them LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2304328]Never ask.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2304465]You usually ask how much a person wants for a product before you start your haggling.[/QUOTE]It seems there is not a consensus on this. I think the best strategy is to not ask, never bring up a price unless they do.
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[QUOTE=Smoothy;2304501]It seems there is not a consensus on this. I think the best strategy is to not ask, never bring up a price unless they do.[/QUOTE]So 500 dollar discussion at the hotel? LOL.
One thing I learned is, its always better to play with clear rules, you don't want a fight at the hotel.
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[QUOTE=Jayson01;2304507]So 500 dollar discussion at the hotel? LOL.
One thing I learned is, its always better to play with clear rules, you don't want a fight at the hotel.[/QUOTE]That is where experience comes into play. First of all, you walk them outside before you pay them. You know where you got your chick from and you know the going rates there. Example. A couple of weeks ago I was home in Thailand. I met this chick at a hooker disco and she came home with me. The next day I took her home and when she got off my motorbike I stuck $34 in her pocket. She started walking to her door and checked her pocket and counted the money. She came back and asked for $28 more. I said no way. She kept asking and I kept saying no way.
I know the money that I always give is fair. I have been giving the same thing for years. So a few days later she is trying to come stay over again; and again after that. So evidently the $34 that I gave her the first day was sufficient or she would not keep trying to come back.
I do understand what you mean though. I was in Nigeria and had read all up and down the forum to pay chicks the equivalent of $30. Me and my coworker picked up some chicks in the disco of the hotel. After the deed I give my girl the $30 and she wants way more. I told her no way. So we were at a standoff. She kept saying she was going to go get security. I told her to go get them. Who did she think they would listen to, her or me? She cried, I cried. Finally she left. The next day I asked my coworker what he gave his girl. He said that they got to the room and she ordered a $20 bowl of soup and charged it to his room, so when it was time for her to go he gave her a bag of peanuts and told her to get the fuck out of his room. LOL. I told him damn, and I thought I was cold.
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[QUOTE=Smoothy;2304501]It seems there is not a consensus on this. I think the best strategy is to not ask, never bring up a price unless they do.[/QUOTE]That is a stategy that works for guys that live here ot otherwise spend a lot of time here and who are looking for GFE and seeing the same chick on a regular basis.
If yhe chick thinks you are just another sex tourist there is very litle incentive for her not to try and get as much out of you as quickly as possible.
So I think it would be best for guys just visiting to nail down all the details before doing the deed.
Besides the chicks that are going to give you a very low monthly rate arent very likely to even bother with guys that are in town for a week or two.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2304300]
It is like mf can't you see where I am going before you accept it?[/QUOTE]Actually, I don't believe they can.
They see the destination once they start the ride.
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I'm pretty sure the drivers see the destination before accepting fares. Think about it, how practical is it for a driver to accept a fare and find out when the trip starts that the destination is hundreds of miles away?
[QUOTE=Balboa;2304642]Actually, I don't believe they can.
They see the destination once they start the ride.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Knowledge;2304653]I'm pretty sure the drivers see the destination before accepting fares. Think about it, how practical is it for a driver to accept a fare and find out when the trip starts that the destination is hundreds of miles away?[/QUOTE]Actually, you're wrong.
This is from the UBER App Q and A: The Uber app lets passengers designate a destination, but drivers aren't privy to this information until they pick someone up ...
I’ve had drivers call me on the way to pick me up to ask my destination, then cancel because the fare wasn’t enough.
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[QUOTE=Bleble;2304485]Is 150 mil overnight and multiple shots rate, or an hour rate? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Usually 2 shots 1-3 hrs.
Another way to look at it is, even if 1 shot 1 HR initially, if repeating it then becomes multiple shots multiple hours, and then overnight. Same 150 mil or less. 150 mil is a good chunk of money there. Think a weeks wage.
Unless she's a hard pro, once they become a regular everything is more generous with you and rate is negotiable.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2304465]Because they may say something lower. Prime example. My girlfriend just left for work. It will be a couple of months before I see her again. I was about to give her 100K. Before I did that she asked me for 50K because she needed to buy something. I saved myself 50K by letting her talk first. Had she asked for 300K, I could have always said I only have 100K.
Just like shopping. You don't just walk up with an offer for the stuff that is being sold. You usually ask how much a person wants for a product before you start your haggling.
Of course 150K would be greeted with acceptance, because it is too damn much! I remember when the exchange rate was 1600 pesos to the USD. Would you have been walking around all willy nilly offering chicks $93 back then? The exchange rate is 3100 now, but you never know when that mf will swing back down. And here you have gotten chicks used to getting 150K. Don't shoot yourself in the foot. Many here have reported chicks online for as low and 60K and 80K.[/QUOTE]Well Mr E since you don't share contacts. We will never know.
I would like to ask if anyone has asked a FB chica and ever been quoted anything less than 150 k because I haven't and that is when I changed my approach. Once again I think once established with them they will adjust things, pops, time, rate etc. But initially that's I think that’s the price at which FB girls will draw the line.
Esp. if you are a non spanish speaking gringo. If you are in centro and speak Spanish well, then you will have room to go lower. Certainly the casas have fixed rates and we all pretty much know what those are.
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[QUOTE=Smoothy;2304501]It seems there is not a consensus on this. I think the best strategy is to not ask, never bring up a price unless they do.[/QUOTE]When I said never ask I meant state your own price. Never ask her what her price is. She could give you a random number and now you got to talk her down. "Babe no tengo dinero. Solo 150 mil. And see where that gets you. 150-200 k is my limit always. It also depends on where you grabbing them. If you and gusto's. Hell yea she going to try and bust why'all balls for 500 if you in Centro. 50-80 k sure. Recognize your surroundings and haggle accordingly. Some guys pockets are deeper than others I judge no one. Pay what you can afford.
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[QUOTE=Bill;2298892]Went to foreigner heaven, or New Life sala de masajes think its called.
Pretty sure these girls are spoiled by gringo behavior [/QUOTE]New Life was my spot back in 2014. Even then, I think I was late to the party as I remember I had a friend that was in Medellin a lot and he used to tell me about his escapades there. Fast forward and I've only been there once since 2014. When I was last there some random guy started asking me questions in English and I haven't been back since, even though I walk by the place all the time. Got good memories of that place though.