Angeles City

[QUOTE=WalkAboutBoyz;2814410]I guess my point is, have fun and be fun and you will have NO trouble getting any girl you want. A smile goes a long way and every girl likes to feel special so make her feel special. This should be easy for those of you coming for short sprints like me. For those of you expats living there 24/7. I feel for you, hard to keep that kind of energy when you are there for a long time.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with you WalkAboutBoyz, and thank you very much for your reports and tips.

[QUOTE=Gorrion;2814387]Thanks a lot everyone for the replies and all the info, really appreciate it.

I'll pass all the info to my friend, although he already booked a hotel for a few days in Angeles City on the same dates as me. He'll also be stopping by Cebu (he has more vacation days than me and wants to do some tourism in the area). I'll only be in Cebu for one night (due to an unexpected flight change by Cebu Pacific, which could be a whole other post), so I'll just check out Mango Square and see if I can find anything, or maybe try my luck online.

Thanks again everyone. Cheers![/QUOTE]I received a PM about an important omission in my Cebu post. Namely that when girls refer to being from Cebu, it's important to determine early on if they are referring to Cebu City or Cebu province. If the province, she could be 6 or 8 hours from the city centre.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Pickley;2814495]Maybe I'm speaking out of my ass as a Philippines newb but I don't get why so many people say to avoid AC it's been ruined. I was there for a week for my first trip and yeah there's a huge Korean presence there but there were also still plenty of birds in the sea. Prices were great for me too. Much better value than makati. Why don't more people complain about makati being ruined instead? It's always AC.[/QUOTE]Hello Pickley,

IMO Angeles City has been ruined. Since about 2011. I see no reason to return as the pictures and stories from another board with Philippines in their name have more activity on "other places" like Thailand or Indonesia. Now I am happy you still dig the place! Really I am! I would guess there is still some magic out there but. I'll answer specifically Why I as an example feel the place Sucks now.

1) The hotels are obnoxiously expensive compared to Pattaya.

2) The ladies have gained weight and are older and more used up than say in 2004. (See pictures of AC Bargirls pre 2009).

3) Raids and other legal gray area matters have plagued Angeles City for about 15 years or so.

4) Being a 2 week millionaire from USA means nothing to the ladies now. They are not as excited to see American $ versus other nationalities money.
(5) The ladies have many more work options like Call Centers or other Business outsourcing they can do and hey - good for them, I am not hating.

Overall around 2002-2005 it was BBFS CIP heaven over there. And a lot of this creampieing was with BEAUTIFUL ladies who were slim and sexy.

Today. With the magic of Google Translate. I can simply head to Thailand and ask the ladies if they want my load. Philippines ladies speak English is no longer very important.

There is HUGE variety in Thailand. There are SO MANY bars in Thailand.

In Angeles City I still hear people posting about the same 3 or 4 bars over and over again. Sorry. Call me old. But I won't be back anytime soon since the Heyday is over. Again, just my opinion and I am not trying to say I am right. It's just that it's easier and cheaper to find what I want elsewhere.

I have been to AC 3 times this year. Total of 25 days. About 7-8 days a tour. Primary have been to Qbar and Lollipop bars. Both bars have 2 tier bar fines. How do I know? Because I have paid 3500 and 4000 at each bar. I have barfined 3 from Qbar and 5 from Lollipop. On NYE I BF a 3500 one from lollipop. That girl is still working there and at a 3500 BF. 3500 girls wear a red bikini. There is one other 3500 color bikini. Go and verify it if you like.

I have had at least another 10 girls from my Friends and Family program. Some I paid 2500 to 3500 each. One special 19 year old got 4 k plus. Most girls were at least a 7. 2 to 8. 2 in looks rating. 9 out 10 of all girls had tight pussies. And I am not big either. Other day a 4 month pregnant was referred to me. She was so tight that I had to really lube up to get it in. 8 out of 10 performed well.

BTW, I do not sit around a bar drinking. Most amount of time I have been in a bar is 45 minutes, chatting up a girl that I have BF before for a referral there. I go to BF a girl and then straight to the hotel. Sex is my game and purpose there. A shopping trip if you will.

I really don't compare what it was 10 years ago. Today is what matters to me. Does it serve my purpose? Yes. I am having a much better time now than 10 years ago.

Never had a Korean cockblock me. BTW, plenty of new and clean Korean restaurants in Friendship now.

To each their own. Some may have a completely different purpose here, then disregard my post.

BTW, my apologies for 2 rude posts which were deleted. I will just post my actual experiences.

I ran in to an 8.5+ that I have known for 7 years. She is 26 now with 2 kids. Still one of the greatest bodies around and might I add a tight kitty. We had a great time catching up. So much so that I will be taking her to Boracay tomorrow for 3 days. Direct flights from Clark to Boracay are available now for $60 one way. Great Boracay hotels for under $100 a night.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2814613]There is HUGE variety in Thailand. There are SO MANY bars in Thailand. SNIP In Angeles City I still hear people posting about the same 3 or 4 bars over and over again. Sorry. Call me old. But I won't be back anytime soon since the Heyday is over. Again, just my opinion and I am not trying to say I am right. It's just that it's easier and cheaper to find what I want elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Understood.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2814627]BTW, I do not sit around a bar drinking. Most amount of time I have been in a bar is 45 minutes, chatting up a girl that I have BF before for a referral there. I go to BF a girl and then straight to the hotel. Sex is my game and purpose there. A shopping trip if you will.[/QUOTE]We are of the same mold. When I go out looking to barfine, I don't go bar-hopping with the intent of socializing and having fun in the bars. I almost never barfine if I am out with a mate (on purpose). When out with mates, its social, and an evening of chat and fun. My buddy is probably looking for a girl. However when I am looking for a girl, I usually go alone, and the first girl that lights my fancy and agrees to my things is walking out the door with me to receive my vaccine in the next 30 minutes. The bar-hopping is done for the night. Its quite possible for me to walk into a bar, have the mama or waitress help me choose a girl, chat the girl for a moment, pay the barfine, and have been in the bar 10 minutes (or less). No need to go to anymore bars tonight (unless, after the first bang, the girl and I both want to go out for a drink). No LD purchased, a tip goes to the mama / waitress.

Prior, in the mid-00's, I was the opposite. Typical newb having fun in 4-5 bars in a night, sometimes going home drunk with no girl, having lost sight of the prime directive. One can get drunk any / every night of the year, anywhere. But when there are only 7 or 10 nights of your annual vacation and you are in trim heaven, each night is precious. At one point I looked at that fun vs nawty thing and thought: [B]Talk about misplaced priorities![/B].

[QUOTE=WalkAboutBoyz;2814097]I like the fun girls, the ones that like to joke and party. These girls are not going with Korean guys and they don't start their shift until 6 or 7 pm. I'd barfine a couple every night then bring them to megadance and have fun all night. I never felt I was settling on quality. Definately not as many to choose from than years ago but still not a problem to find one.

In summation, yes if you knew Angeles 10 years ago or more and trying to compare then you feel sour. But Angeles is still far better than anything you will find back in the states and I think still worth it for sure! Oh and I was never once asked short time or long time but any of the 11 girls I had last week. All were long time like usual. Maybe that's just a daytime girl thing? (Ie- Korean loving girl thing).[/QUOTE]Great report. Eleven girls in one week? Bit jealous here. . .

That report calls for a pic of my girls being playful (WAB-girls).

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2814768]One can get drunk any / every night of the year, anywhere. But when there are only 7 or 10 nights of your annual vacation and you are in trim heaven, each night is precious. At one point I looked at that fun vs nawty thing and thought: [B]Talk about misplaced priorities![/B].

[/QUOTE]True but where in the rule book does it say that they are mutually exclusive?? I don't know anywhere at home where I can have a face full of titties, a beer in one hand and snatch in the other. All for less than $10 a drink. That's where AC and wider Philippines shine.

Sure it's not as in your face as years ago, but it's still there.

Each to their own, but I've never gone for point and shoot and notches on a bed post. Give me a enjoyable night of laughs and frolicking any time.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2814924]True but where in the rule book does it say that they are mutually exclusive?? I don't know anywhere at home where I can have a face full of titties, a beer in one hand and snatch in the other. All for less than $10 a drink. That's where AC and wider Philippines shine.

Sure it's not as in your face as years ago, but it's still there.

Each to their own, but I've never gone for point and shoot and notches on a bed post. Give me a enjoyable night of laughs and frolicking any time.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I tend to keep the two separate (now). When I need a rest night (no nawty) during my stay (then, pre-covid), I might go out perving alone as you suggest (or with a mate). But not barfining. When out trying to do both, 3 drinks in and I start conflating the two. Four drinks into my night at bar #3, intending to barfine, having fun with a cutie that is agreeable to a barfine, and its too late for me. I confess that my constitution has changed (a decade ago) and is such that there will be no junior-joy this evening. My age shows itself. Its been a wonderful evening, and the perving can continue. But not with a barfine. A drink in bar #1 looking over the talent. Two drinks in bar #2 (one each with different cuties), and then one drink with a cutie in bar #3, and its over. Its been good fun. Can continue at bar #4 with a bottle of water maybe, more perving. Alcohol, and bar-carousing have become, for me, the antithesis of barfining. Much easier to skip the booze and carousing on a barfine evening. Keep a bottle of tequila or RH in the room and have (only) 1 with the girl, should she want one. The good-old-days of bar crawling, perving, and barfining ended for me not because of the Koreans, but because my constitution changed. Also, another gent I met at Kokomo's, older and wiser than me, had found ways to change up the barfine system that was in place, to either save himself some money, or more importantly (to him) time in accessing bargirls. He had created methods to:

1) Not buy a LD when barfining. 2) Get bargirls to 'cheat the bar' on their time off, and pay about half the barfine amount. 3) Get into certain bars, and be back outside with his barfined gogo gal in 10 minutes. 4) Other things, some of them genius. Once I adopted some of his methods, I found it useful to stop drinking in bars (clouded my judgement, reduced Johnson thru-put), get in / out with a girl and vax someone.

That's for barfining. When I am with my regulars on a LT, we often go out for live band, drinks, food, carousing. Quite possible we will skip the evening joy and have it in the morning, depending my mood / energy. When barfining it would be (for me) a dereliction of duty to not hammer the girl shortly after the barfine, even on a LT where she is available in the morning.

Nobody needs to heed my methodology.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2814352]
In summary (sorry about the long post): in town for a few days, not super fussy and want point and shoot, then go to AC and have a blast; have some extra time, looking for better quality and looking girls and prepared to put in some ground work, then bypass AC and go to Cebu.

.[/QUOTE]I agree. There is no change over the years in regards the possibilities AC vs Cebu.

The change is in the budget. AC, years ago, a budget of 100. -$ a day all inclusive was good for excellent fun. Nowadays be ready to spend 300. -$ or more a day. (I talk about 1 week tourists!

Otherwise stay back home and don't moan about the bygone good old times.

10 years ago.

Armed guards with sawed off shotguns in most businesses.

4-5 15 yo glue sniffing boys trying rob your pockets.

3 or more ladyboys trying to steal your wallet on the street.

Pickpockets galore walking around.

Cell phone snatch and runners.

Most bars girls were inexperienced country bumpkins from Samar.

High percentage were runners.

I like today better.

This board makes AC sound like shit. I have never been but was entertaining the idea for easy drive-thru BBFS. Now I'm discouraged.

For those who think AC is over, are there any BBFS alternative destinations anywhere in the world?

Money is not an issue. Filipinas aren't even my type, but AC just seems to be the BBFS capital of the world. I wish Thailand offered BBFS but I've been told that's rare.

[QUOTE=Mastov;2815314]This board makes AC sound like shit. I have never been but was entertaining the idea for easy drive-thru BBFS. Now I'm discouraged. For those who think AC is over, are there any BBFS alternative destinations anywhere in the world? Money is not an issue. Filipinas aren't even my type, but AC just seems to be the BBFS capital of the world. I wish Thailand offered BBFS but I've been told that's rare.[/QUOTE]I would say pm me, but with 1 post not sure. Either way I wouldn't be discouraged. The entire PI is pretty much the same not only AC. Everything is bare everywhere. Whether that is a good thing or a bad thing is up to you.

[QUOTE=Mastov;2815314]I wish Thailand offered BBFS but I've been told that's rare.[/QUOTE]I do not know who told you that. It is so easy that 2 days ago this new guy could do it without even trying.

[QUOTE=Fortunate;2815270]I moved from Bangkok to Pattaya for a few days yesterday.

The rest of the day here was spent exploring. The RLD is massive here! Lots of walking around on my tired legs but worth it.

I then walked up and down Beach Road and Walking Street a few times checking out the talent. Lots of working girls available. 1 K BHT paid for the standard suck and fuck, and she was up for BBCIP, starting to mount me without a condom, but I use a condom for PIV. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Transporter;2815424]I would say pm me, but with 1 post not sure. Either way I wouldn't be discouraged. The entire PI is pretty much the same not only AC. Everything is bare everywhere. Whether that is a good thing or a bad thing is up to you.[/QUOTE]I'm new here. How do I PM you? I go to your profile and don't see a button. Do I need to be a paying member?

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[QUOTE=Mastov;2815314]This board makes AC sound like shit. I have never been but was entertaining the idea for easy drive-thru BBFS. Now I'm discouraged.

For those who think AC is over, are there any BBFS alternative destinations anywhere in the world?

Money is not an issue. Filipinas aren't even my type, but AC just seems to be the BBFS capital of the world. I wish Thailand offered BBFS but I've been told that's rare.[/QUOTE]Somebody told you it's rare in Thailand. Hahahahahah.