Ho Chi Minh City - General Info

[QUOTE=Milkweed]This cafe is on the Thi Nghe Channel on Le Binh Street. It's near CMT8. I'm looking at google maps. Not sure of the District.

No bushes in front. I think it's just a cafe that has pretty waitresses to sit with customers so they can charge 16,000 for a green tea.

I usually date normal girls or go to hot tocs. I'm not really experienced with grey areas. But I think some guys here "date" waitresses...maybe semipros? And I know John Dao has some way of propositioning random women. Maybe he has some kind of radar that I'm lacking.[/QUOTE]

This area is in Q.TB. I know that canal area well. Lots of the area is under construction. With this being just a normal coffee shop with hot girls, but not a "ca phe om", the girls give out numbers for a few reasons. But of which is the same as the girls who work in the Hot Toc's (not BnGs). Plan of attack would be the same.

I say you normally date "normal girls" or go to "hot tocs". You are aware this is night and day, right?

oh, John Dao, I just remembered a report you did a while ago. You banged an 18 year old waitress from a cafe I think. I remember you said you paid her tuition at school and maybe it was a thank you bang. So, maybe you are being humble when you say you never got a waitresses phone #.

I know about the night and day thing, of course. I guess what I'm saying is I usually don't date cafe waitresses or legitimate hot toc girls or bida girls etc. This is an area that I'd like to explore more now that my tviet is improving. Maybe it's the same as dating a university student or a professional girl. I don't know. I suspect that it's a little different.

[QUOTE=Milkweed]oh, John Dao, I just remembered a report you did a while ago. You banged an 18 year old waitress from a cafe I think. I remember you said you paid her tuition at school and maybe it was a thank you bang. So, maybe you are being humble when you say you never got a waitresses phone #.

I know about the night and day thing, of course. I guess what I'm saying is I usually don't date cafe waitresses or legitimate hot toc girls or bida girls etc. This is an area that I'd like to explore more now that my tviet is improving. Maybe it's the same as dating a university student or a professional girl. I don't know. I suspect that it's a little different.[/QUOTE]


Of course everyone is different, and comes from different backgrounds etc. But for the most part, I would say that girls working in the service industries (hot toc, bida, or restaurants) are NOTHING like dating girls/women with corporate jobs or university students.

If you start dating one of them for awhile, after about a month or two (generally speaking) they will tell you some story about a family member in need, and they need to "borrow" money from you. From a few million to a large amount, depending on how much they think they can extract from you. This is a VERY common practice here. Don't ever expect to see that money again. University students are young, and needy. After dating for awhile they will probably start hinting to you to help pay for school. Women working for a company are a little bit older, not as needy, but after dating a while will start looking for marriage. Each one has its pro's and con's.

There are some good girls out there, but, they seem to be harder and harder to come by these days.

I've marked some maps of the city showing approximate locations for Blow and Go (BnG) places, Streetwalkers (SW) and Moto Girls (Moto).

The areas are in Districts 1, 5, 7 and Binh Thanh (Q1, Q5, Q7, QBT).

There is really nothing new here, everyplace has been discussed in the VN Threads, I just marked them on the map.

Notes:
1) The Nguyen Dinh Chieu Moto Girl Market in Q1 is nighttime only.

2) The Nguyen Chi Thanh Moto and SW Market is open all day but especially around 11 am to 1 pm and then again after 7 pm.

3) The Nguyen Thi Minh Khai SW market on the south side in front of the Zoo is mostly nighttime. The bridge to QBT from there is day time. Beyond that is Moto, not SW.

4) Tu Xuong St is nighttime only.

5) All places marked in Q7 are BnG only, no SW or moto.

6) The old lady market in Q5 near Hung Vuong on Hong Bang St is a kink specialty -- beware.


JD

[QUOTE=Milkweed]oh, John Dao, I just remembered a report you did a while ago. You banged an 18 year old waitress from a cafe I think. I remember you said you paid her tuition at school and maybe it was a thank you bang. So, maybe you are being humble when you say you never got a waitresses phone #.
[/QUOTE]
Yes MW, you are right, Hieu. But it was very informal, nothing to call dating, no phone numbers. I frequented the cafe where she worked, she sat with me and talked as that is her job. One day she implied she was short of money (a very small amount for school fee). I asked how much and when she said 150k, I took it out of my pocket and handed it to her without discusion. Next time at the cafe I asked her what time she gets off and what she is doing. I invited her to do something. I picked her up at that time a few days later. She asked where we were going as we were riding. I told her I was tired and need to rest, so to a nearby hotel. She said ok. You saw the pictures of the rest of our time. Her face partly blocked. Her mouth very full. We did the same routine a few weeks later, money for school fee one day, to the hotel a few days later. No direct connection between the two events time wise, but obviously we both understood there was. Some time later the cafe was gone and so was she. No phone, no email, not even a real name. That's how I like it.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1550&page=13&pp=20[/url]

JD

[QUOTE=Johndao]I've marked some maps of the city showing approximate locations for Blow and Go (BnG) places, Streetwalkers (SW) and Moto Girls (Moto).

The areas are in Districts 1, 5, 7 and Binh Thanh (Q1, Q5, Q7, QBT).

There is really nothing new here, everyplace has been discussed in the VN Threads, I just marked them on the map.

Notes:
1) The Nguyen Dinh Chieu Moto Girl Market in Q1 is nighttime only.

2) The Nguyen Chi Thanh Moto and SW Market is open all day but especially around 11 am to 1 pm and then again after 7 pm.

3) The Nguyen Thi Minh Khai SW market on the south side in front of the Zoo is mostly nighttime. The bridge to QBT from there is day time. Beyond that is Moto, not SW.

4) Tu Xuong St is nighttime only.

5) All places marked in Q7 are BnG only, no SW or moto.

6) The old lady market in Q5 near Hung Vuong on Hong Bang St is a kink specialty -- beware.

JD[/QUOTE]Jd,

Great info. I knew something special would present itself for my last night in Saigon. Unless the 22 year old from Craigslist lewdly detains me.

If not tonight, then I will definitely check out this scene when I move here permanently in December.

Thanks to you and all the rest of the Saigon troops who have so graciously helped me out. I hope to repay the favors with my own contributions when I return.

Poly

JD, you da THE MAN! Thanks for these maps! I am in HCMC right now and will go to some places based on your advice.

I met some hot toc beauties including one with big boobs at Benny's but have not been successful getting them to come back to my hotel. It is not a GF hotel but I talked the manager into letting me bring my "legitimate" GF over. Now I have to get one!

They had some stunners at Apocalypse Now disco who offered to spend the night for $100 US. Damn these girls have gotten greedy. Still, a hundred-dollar overnight call girl in USA is impossible so I might just have to spring for it.

Happy Horndogging and special thanks to all the boob hounds who posted boob photos.

[QUOTE=Johndao]I've marked some maps of the city showing approximate locations for Blow and Go (BnG) places, Streetwalkers (SW) and Moto Girls (Moto).

The areas are in Districts 1, 5, 7 and Binh Thanh (Q1, Q5, Q7, QBT).

There is really nothing new here, everyplace has been discussed in the VN Threads, I just marked them on the map.

Notes:
1) The Nguyen Dinh Chieu Moto Girl Market in Q1 is nighttime only.

2) The Nguyen Chi Thanh Moto and SW Market is open all day but especially around 11 am to 1 pm and then again after 7 pm.

3) The Nguyen Thi Minh Khai SW market on the south side in front of the Zoo is mostly nighttime. The bridge to QBT from there is day time. Beyond that is Moto, not SW.

4) Tu Xuong St is nighttime only.

5) All places marked in Q7 are BnG only, no SW or moto.

6) The old lady market in Q5 near Hung Vuong on Hong Bang St is a kink specialty -- beware.


JD[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=D Cups]JD, you da THE MAN! Thanks for these maps! I am in HCMC right now and will go to some places based on your advice.

They had some stunners at Apocalypse Now disco who offered to spend the night for $100 US. Damn these girls have gotten greedy. Still, a hundred-dollar overnight call girl in USA is impossible so I might just have to spring for it.[/QUOTE]
Right, impossible. Also can't get factory workers six days-a-week in the USA for $60 per month. Can't even get 'em for $100. Not yet anyway. But that's where we are headed.

JD

Read the reports here for the first time just now, especially Johndao's and I must say need to visit Vietnam as soon as possible.

I travelled a lot in the whole world, missed it until now, but these girls attract me so strongly.

Will report to you!

[QUOTE=Johndao]I've marked some maps of the city showing approximate locations for Blow and Go (BnG) places, Streetwalkers (SW) and Moto Girls (Moto).

The areas are in Districts 1, 5, 7 and Binh Thanh (Q1, Q5, Q7, QBT).

There is really nothing new here, everyplace has been discussed in the VN Threads, I just marked them on the map.

Notes:
1) The Nguyen Dinh Chieu Moto Girl Market in Q1 is nighttime only.

2) The Nguyen Chi Thanh Moto and SW Market is open all day but especially around 11 am to 1 pm and then again after 7 pm.

3) The Nguyen Thi Minh Khai SW market on the south side in front of the Zoo is mostly nighttime. The bridge to QBT from there is day time. Beyond that is Moto, not SW.

4) Tu Xuong St is nighttime only.

5) All places marked in Q7 are BnG only, no SW or moto.

6) The old lady market in Q5 near Hung Vuong on Hong Bang St is a kink specialty -- beware.

JD[/QUOTE]Great Info JD

I'm living in Bkk, never been to VN but your work inspires to me hop over asap.

Hallo to All Experts there !

I will visit Saigon my first time soon in November and will stay in a hotel near the Ben Tanh market.

Is there some action around there, exspecially Moto Girls or Bars.

I have read teh Forum and learned, there will be some MiniHotels around, but nothing about girls.

Can you give me some advice?

Many Thanks

[QUOTE=H Schneeberg]

I have read teh Forum and learned, there will be some MiniHotels around, but nothing about girls.

Can you give me some advice?[/QUOTE]

Probably read the forum again. If you say there is nothing about girls in the forum then what are we posters discussing?

[QUOTE=************]You can bring a girl to Park Hyatt, just did it yesterday. Make sure you do it early though, the girl just needs to check in with her ID.[/QUOTE]Mike,

1. How early is "early?" When does the carriage turn into a pumpkin? ;-)

and

2. Once she's in, is she good for the night?

Any assistance you can give will be greatly appreciated.

Happy Hunting,
EM

[QUOTE=El Mujerista]Mike,
1. How early is "early?" When does the carriage turn into a pumpkin? ;-)
and
2. Once she's in, is she good for the night?
Any assistance you can give will be greatly appreciated.
Happy Hunting,
EM[/QUOTE]
I think the rule in the hotels is that no guest can stay in the rooms after 9pm.
If the girl ID has been left or copied at reception the hotel know there someone extra in the room. If you could smuggle her through earlier than it should not be a problem to' keep her overnight till breakfast time when hotel lives up again.
Rule is that Vietnamese cannot be in hotel rooms with strangers, that is the starting point.

[QUOTE=Bionicman]I think the rule in the hotels is that no guest can stay in the rooms after 9pm.
If the girl ID has been left or copied at reception the hotel know there someone extra in the room. If you could smuggle her through earlier than it should not be a problem to' keep her overnight till breakfast time when hotel lives up again.
Rule is that Vietnamese cannot be in hotel rooms with strangers, that is the starting point.[/QUOTE]

Good luck with that smuggling...the Park has security cameras throughout the hotel (lobby, elevators, hallways etc) along with a security staff to monitor such activities. Assuming you were able to make it to the room without being stopped, you will receive a phone call to the room within a few minutes requiring you to register the girl. If you wish to not listen, there will be someone there at the door knocking. Personal experience. Security is more robust at the nicer hotels, especially the PH, since they cater to international government officials etc.