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[QUOTE=SeekingHead;2437292]I'm not going to ask for #'s but just wanted to talk prices & advice. I'm pretty active over on the USA forums, but created an account over here also. I was planning on taking a 1 week trip to Cartagena this summer but the virus has that all fucked up right now. I prefer SA girls as you can usually screen a bit thru text & then a couple of phone calls via whatsapp. Also I've found with most girls on SA if you treat them like you would a girlfriend, wining & dining them you usually get a good GFE. By this I mean upscale dinner / drinks after dinner a drink at a night club or bar for an hour after dinner then back to the hotel for 2 to 3 rounds.

Cartagena is attractive to me because I work remote & could fly down from Atlanta on a direct flight for a week at the beach, work remote, nap / beach, & then take a girl out. For dinner.

If you could share advice & pricing structure. I am to spending $200 to $400 a night US if I can get a supermodel or 9/10 girl, if not a cute college aged amateur for $60 US is good too.

One more thing I'm conversationally fluent in Spanish so language isn't a barrier, just local slang.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Check out this thread post 5423 by Elvis.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?578-General-Info&p=2420852#post2420852

He has a lot more experience with the SA thing than I do. SA in Medellin is worked a little differently in the states. In my opinion 200 to 400 a night is way too much and you can definitely find the quality you are seeking for a lot less. For now I would just put things on hold because I really don't know when any of us will be going back to Colombia again. I have a list of SA girls waiting for me, probably too many. You'll find that you will have to narrow things down as there will be a long line of takers.

[QUOTE=Uthred;2437414]Check out this thread post 5423 by Elvis.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?578-General-Info&p=2420852#post2420852

He has a lot more experience with the SA thing than I do. SA in Medellin is worked a little differently in the states. In my opinion 200 to 400 a night is way too much and you can definitely find the quality you are seeking for a lot less. For now I would just put things on hold because I really don't know when any of us will be going back to Colombia again. I have a list of SA girls waiting for me, probably too many. You'll find that you will have to narrow things down as there will be a long line of takers.[/QUOTE]Thank you, some really good info & reading. It seems to function about the same way SA does in other parts of the world. I was going to meet a Russian girl & a Romanian girl in Malaga Spain this summer but Corona got me. The abundance of pussy on SA I can bang has led to me being a little choosy about quality. In the last 3 years I've had some type of sexual experience with around 100 different women from a 4 to a solid 9. 5. The better girls tend to be open to a FWB / GFE which is what I want instead of a 1 hour meetup at a random hotel. The current girl I've going out with now is a solid 7 but is a complete GFE & I think for her she is just into older man & SA allows her to find someone.

Are girls more open to USD or Peso? By this does paying in $'s get you a discount or are you better with Peso's? From doing a bit of reading it looks like $100 will get me the todo la noche I am looking for.

I'm hoping by the fall things get back to normal. I need a vacation.

[QUOTE=SeekingHead;2437292]By this I mean upscale dinner / drinks after dinner a drink at a night club or bar for an hour after dinner then back to the hotel for 2 to 3 rounds.

Cartagena is attractive to me because I work remote & could fly down from Atlanta on a direct flight for a week at the beach, work remote, nap / beach, & then take a girl out. For dinner.

If you could share advice & pricing structure. I am to spending $200 to $400 a night US if I can get a supermodel or 9/10 girl, if not a cute college aged amateur for $60 US is good too.[/QUOTE]SH, no offense, but you are doing it wrong. I know it is normal to price in most other places, but do not do it in Colombia, you will get plenty of action without having to front women cash. About 3 in 4 women in Colombia are looking for what you are offering but many if not most of the women I have met on SA have not been out with a guy, and they do not know how things work, so use it to your advantage. Many if not most do not want or will not set a price.

You will be asked about what you are looking for in an arrangement. If they seem home bound, like with kids, tell them that you are having to travel to the area frequently for work and are looking for a GFE type. Most are not home bound and are looking to travel, so tell those types when they ask about an arrangement that you are looking for a travel partner. Try not to mention money when asked what kind of an arrangement you want.

Keep your first meet quick, a drink over a meal. Make sure that she is the woman in the photo and has a decent personality. Use google translate if Spanish is difficult. It works well in a quiet place as long as there is decent internet.

If the woman has a price mentality and you aren't going to meet her otherwise, offer up 50,000 COP which is now like $12 to meet them. It is nothing for you, but for these women, that is often a day's pay. I have never been turned down with that offer. You would think the photos will tell you all that you need to know, but they can be deceiving.

Your goal should not be bedding a 8 or 10 for $200 to 400 a night. Your goal, and it is realistic in Colombia, is to pay them nothing directly. After sex, take them out to a nice dinner and lure the women with trips to exotic countries. You do not have to use the john mentality in Colombia to work SA. In fact, you will get the best pussy and best effort without it.

Oh, and you are not married even if you are in Colombia when on SA. Given that many of the women know that doing the same job they are currently doing yields them between 3 and 10 X that amount in the USA, many are looking to get married or come to the USA. Keep that option open for your sake. Who knows? After being with a Colombian woman, you may want a divorce anyway.

Cartagena is not the place you want to be on SA as well. There are too few choices. You want to do Medellin or Bogota, find the best women and fly the women from there to Cartagena. (If you like darker skinned woman, I would look at Cali.) Flights from these cities to Cartagena are like $50 round trip. The reason for that is that there are not that many woman on SA in Cartagena, and you have 10 X as many in either city over Cartagena. The better beaches, and it is a cheap flight too, is to San Andreas, but that is not a non-stop for you.

Colombia is SA wonderland. One of my SA gals just called me and showed me her showering, another just sent me one of her dancing and masturbating. That is just tonight. I NEVER had anything like that in the USA or elsewhere. That is normal in Colombia, the women love to please their man.

And for what it is worth, your hit rate is going to be MUCH higher in Colombia than in the USA or elsewhere, and it is best if you can stay away from the English speaking women in general or the women who have had American SDs before. The first Colombian girl I met from SA told me that she was making $300 a month as a bank teller. So when you say you are offering up $200 to $400, I know that is not much for you, but it is like offering an American girl $2000 to $3000 per night, and you do not have to do that. In fact, the women are going to think that you are a sucker if you do offer that.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2437573]SH, no offense, but you are doing it wrong. I know it is normal to price in most other places, but do not do it in Colombia, you will get plenty of action without having to front women cash. About 3 in 4 women in Colombia are looking for what you are offering but many if not most of the women I have met on SA have not been out with a guy, and they do not know how things work, so use it to your advantage. Many if not most do not want or will not set a price.[/QUOTE]Elvis,

TY for the great advice. I'm looking to spend as little as possible, but do want to bang a higher quality chica with a GFE, so it looks like Colombia will work. I'm active over in the USA version of this guide in Atlanta & see people chasing $60 qv girls, who I wouldn't touch if they were paying me $200. This is the reason I mentioned spending $200 to $400 if I can bang a model on vacation then I will pay for it, but am good with $60 if she is a cute girl next door type who is a GFE. My current SB is a solid 7 in looks, 25 year old grad student & I pay her rent, see her 8 to 10 times a month, & it's a complete GFE.

No hay problema con la idoma, para esta Columbia es mas interesante de Brazil con la Portuguese.

Also there is a direct flight from Atlanta to Cartagena, or there was before the virus & it's only about a 4 hour flight. I will take your advice on Medallion & Bogata, I'm looking at it from the point of view of just chilling on the beach for a week while working remote.

I'm not married & doubt I want to get married again. Just too much drama & love hurts, my wife passed from cancer 4 years ago, I was married for 22 years. Trust me had plenty of offers, I have Colombian friends here in Atlanta, & they all keep trying to set me up with a divorced mid 30's women with 2 kids.

I will use your strategy on lures of travel & vacation. It's similar to the strategy I use on SA here in the states, I look for the 23 to 27 year old woman who likes older guys. It works really good I'm now on my 4th sugar relationship with a women in that age group, all were into dating older guys, trips, & vacations. I was going to bring my current SB to Madrid / Barca for 7 days & when she leaves, I had a Russian girl flying in for 5 days. Here in the US it's a bit harder as only 1 out of 10 girls fits this category, whereas you are saying I can find this easily in Colombia What I might do is head to Bogata or Medallion & find a girl, then just have her visit me in at a beach resort when I come down.

I will go back over some of your posts as you seem to have this down to a science.

[QUOTE=SeekingHead;2439400]Elvis,

TY for the great advice. I'm looking to spend as little as possible, but do want to bang a higher quality chica with a GFE, so it looks like Colombia will work. I'm active over in the USA version of this guide in Atlanta & see people chasing $60 qv girls, who I wouldn't touch if they were paying me $200. This is the reason I mentioned spending $200 to $400 if I can bang a model on vacation then I will pay for it, but am good with $60 if she is a cute girl next door type who is a GFE. My current SB is a solid 7 in looks, 25 year old grad student & I pay her rent, see her 8 to 10 times a month, & it's a complete GFE.

No hay problema con la idoma, para esta Columbia es mas interesante de Brazil con la Portuguese.

Also there is a direct flight from Atlanta to Cartagena, or there was before the virus & it's only about a 4 hour flight. I will take your advice on Medallion & Bogata, I'm looking at it from the point of view of just chilling on the beach for a week while working remote.

I'm not married & doubt I want to get married again. Just too much drama & love hurts, my wife passed from cancer 4 years ago, I was married for 22 years. Trust me had plenty of offers, I have Colombian friends here in Atlanta, & they all keep trying to set me up with a divorced mid 30's women with 2 kids..[/QUOTE]I'm not particularly interested, as I've said before, in a SD-SB relationship, especially not an international one. I'm too cynical to expect some hot young woman with a high sex drive is going to keep her legs crossed for months at a time waiting for me. However, that doesn't matter. If she's not fucking me, not supposed to be attending to me and not keeping me awake by fucking my friend in the next room while I'm trying to sleep (it happened), I don't care what she's doing.

Then again, I have no issue with sending a girl money, and I'm willing to try new things in the pursuit of knowledge.

Not long ago I began talking with a Colombian girl through a non-traditional (not a dating site, SA, Tinder, Facebook etc.) source. I'd put her face in the 7. 5-8 range, body 8-8. 5 and personality 9. She's non-pro from a middle-class family, well educated and was employed until the lockdown went into effect. No kids, no overload of trashy tattoos and a stable living arrangement. If I was ever looking for a relationship, so far she would have checked all the boxes. Haven't asked her age yet. She has a cedula and looks under 20.

I haven't dug too deep, haven't suggested taking her on trips, or shopping trips, and haven't finished detailing my expectations when or if I come to visit. I've only questioned her to see what level of income would make her squeal. At current exchange rates, about $300 monthly is a number that made her jaw drop.

If you haven't been to Colombia, it requires an attitude adjustment. In the US, a really stunning girl is something you probably see almost every day, sometimes a few in a day. I'm talking about a girl that you won't let go without a good second look. In Colombia, if there are plenty of people around, you'll see a head-turner about once a minute. They're hard to find in the US because they're in short supply, which means they're also expensive. In Colombia they're everywhere.

The other adjustment is the cost index. I know a young woman in Medellin, from an estrato 6 family. Her husband is also from an estrato 6 family. She looks like a 23 year old Natalie Portman and graduated from University as a dentist. She also speaks almost fluent English. If you run a Dentist practice in the US and a bilingual and gorgeous new dentist applied for a job, you would probably throw money at her. In Colombia, the best paying job she could find came out to $540 per month.

In case you're not aware, Colombia's wealth classes, estratos, run from 1 to 6.

You can pay $200-$400 a night for a hot GFE, or you can get the same for $100 or less. It appears you can also pay $200-$400 a month and get the full SB package. My suggestion is to go, see what is already on the market, at what price level and then readjust your expectations.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2440078]You can pay $200-$400 a night for a hot GFE, or you can get the same for $100 or less. It appears you can also pay $200-$400 a month and get the full SB package. My suggestion is to go, see what is already on the market, at what price level and then readjust your expectations.[/QUOTE]TY.

I will be down once the virus passes, what I want to reiterate is I would rather pay for quality over quantity. If I can pay another $50 US & get a model vs. A normal 20 something girl, then I'm willing to do it. It's not going to kill my bank account or make a difference on where & what I eat, I've seen where mongers are always trying to get the cheapest price & are willing to put a bag over the head of a girl who has a nice body. I'm not like that, I like a bit of a connection to a girl & for me with a bit of connection and that I'm attracted to make the sex much better at least for me.

As for the SB, what I have now is a SB who fucks me like a GF 2 x a week, this leaves me another 3 days a week to monger & try out fresh talent. As for the SB, finding a girl who I can take out for dinner & drinks is high on my list, A good night or me is to take a girl out for dinner, split a bottle of good wine, go for copas, maybe dance a bit, & then back to the house for a couple of rounds, bang her in the morning, then kick her out. Then the other days of the week I can partake in other monger activities, like getting a 90 minute massage plus BBBJ, or going to a casa or picking up a girl at cafe or club. I prefer American Strip clubs where you can get extras in the club quite a bit as it's a bit of fantasy fuck type thing.

I'm conversationally fluent in Spanish so the language isn't an issue for me. If I couldn't speak the language I would just go to Sao Paulo which is full of supermodel types.

[QUOTE=SeekingHead;2441239]TY.

I will be down once the virus passes, what I want to reiterate is I would rather pay for quality over quantity. If I can pay another $50 US & get a model vs. A normal 20 something girl, then I'm willing to do it. It's not going to kill my bank account or make a difference on where & what I eat, I've seen where mongers are always trying to get the cheapest price & are willing to put a bag over the head of a girl who has a nice body. I'm not like that, I like a bit of a connection to a girl & for me with a bit of connection and that I'm attracted to make the sex much better at least for me.

As for the SB, what I have now is a SB who fucks me like a GF 2 x a week, this leaves me another 3 days a week to monger & try out fresh talent. As for the SB, finding a girl who I can take out for dinner & drinks is high on my list, A good night or me is to take a girl out for dinner, split a bottle of good wine, go for copas, maybe dance a bit, & then back to the house for a couple of rounds, bang her in the morning, then kick her out. Then the other days of the week I can partake in other monger activities, like getting a 90 minute massage plus BBBJ, or going to a casa or picking up a girl at cafe or club. I prefer American Strip clubs where you can get extras in the club quite a bit as it's a bit of fantasy fuck type thing.

I'm conversationally fluent in Spanish so the language isn't an issue for me. If I couldn't speak the language I would just go to Sao Paulo which is full of supermodel types.[/QUOTE]{ I prefer American Strip clubs where you can get extras in the club quite a bit as it's a bit of fantasy fuck type thing. }.

If you like that then you must try the Santa Fe strip clubs. For 20 k you get about six songs and you can do almost anything while they are dancing naked on your lap.

[QUOTE=SeekingHead;2441239]TY.

I will be down once the virus passes, what I want to reiterate is I would rather pay for quality over quantity. If I can pay another $50 US & get a model vs. A normal 20 something girl, then I'm willing to do it. It's not going to kill my bank account or make a difference on where & what I eat, I've seen where mongers are always trying to get the cheapest price & are willing to put a bag over the head of a girl who has a nice body. I'm not like that, I like a bit of a connection to a girl & for me with a bit of connection and that I'm attracted to make the sex much better at least for me.

As for the SB, what I have now is a SB who fucks me like a GF 2 x a week, this leaves me another 3 days a week to monger & try out fresh talent. As for the SB, finding a girl who I can take out for dinner & drinks is high on my list, A good night or me is to take a girl out for dinner, split a bottle of good wine, go for copas, maybe dance a bit, & then back to the house for a couple of rounds, bang her in the morning, then kick her out. Then the other days of the week I can partake in other monger activities, like getting a 90 minute massage plus BBBJ, or going to a casa or picking up a girl at cafe or club. I prefer American Strip clubs where you can get extras in the club quite a bit as it's a bit of fantasy fuck type thing.

I'm conversationally fluent in Spanish so the language isn't an issue for me. If I couldn't speak the language I would just go to Sao Paulo which is full of supermodel types.[/QUOTE]Okay, SH, here is a list for you on what you want.

In Bogota, this one, whose picture is not that great, was a real looker in real life and had close to a perfect body. I paid her top dollar, $140 for two rounds, and she was worth it: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5a786aa8-b938-4e4a-bb17-f15cc0ee8280[/URL].

This one has a different handle now, but you should be able to find her in Bogota with the information in the profile. She speaks English well. She is more cute than stunning, and her pictures look better than she is, but she is a balls to the wall, multi orgasmic, wall shaking type O gal. She was a lot of fun. I gave her like $80 for 2 hours. https://www.seeking.com/member/a88164f5-1cbb-47a8-88e5-e5ce0c21957c

This one is fit, fashionable. She is attractive and fashionable but not stunning, but I do not think no is in her vocabulary: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e9ed7422-33b2-4ccd-a928-a2bd933dbf5c[/URL].

For Barranquilla, I think all these gals will meet you in Cartagena.

Pictures look better than she is in real life. However, she too will not say no to anything. You can get an overnight with her for a reasonable price. Make sure to watch your wallet though. I think that she helped herself to a tip: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/31ff439e-4021-4217-a20d-dfb53fc9d793[/URL].

This is the only one of two who insists on a cover for full service. She is model quality type, great kisser, great head, speaks English. Her doggie is unreal. She will ram you so hard from behind you may end up in the Atlantic. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bc99349a-1deb-4419-b964-fc6ba636fa9e.[/URL] I paid her $100 for an for a few hours.

Dani is the supermodel type. I fell in lust with her picture. She showed up at a time that was not scheduled, is greedy. She would not do oral unless covered. Still, she was as hot as her photo suggested and so tight I could barely get in her. I paid her $140 for an hour and she was not worth it. Still, I wanted her so badly that I may have overplayed my hand. I think I have had been much less in lust with her, I could have gotten a better price. I am not sure that she would leave Barranquilla. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/48f7ebcc-d004-474a-a99d-b2383e1cdc8e[/URL].

You may ask why I am giving these up. Believe it or not, this is my be or pseudohooker list. I have an A list I keep to myself.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2440078]I'm not particularly interested, as I've said before, in a SD-SB relationship, especially not an international one. I'm too cynical to expect some hot young woman with a high sex drive is going to keep her legs crossed for months at a time waiting for me. However, that doesn't matter. If she's not fucking me, not supposed to be attending to me and not keeping me awake by fucking my friend in the next room while I'm trying to sleep (it happened), I don't care what she's doing.[/QUOTE]You are right to be cynical, but I do not insist on monogamy. Still, I have had multiple women after meeting me take their profiles off of seeking by their choice. I also am not paying by the month. Some live with their parents and it would be hard for them to get away and others work 6 days per week. Even if she is a GF or fiance type, I would not recommend monthly allowances though. Helping out when they are hurting like almost everyone is now is one thing, but dependence is another.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2440078]I haven't dug too deep, haven't suggested taking her on trips, or shopping trips.[/QUOTE]That is something you save for at least the third date. Doing so too early is spoiling them. If you want a girl to fly to another country like Mexico or Aruba, you have to send them $500 or they will not make it through customs so you had better trust them not to just put that money in their pocket. Other fucked up part is top of the line cosmetics are same price as here in the malls.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2440078]If you haven't been to Colombia, it requires an attitude adjustment. In the US, a really stunning girl is something you probably see almost every day, sometimes a few in a day. I'm talking about a girl that you won't let go without a good second look. In Colombia, if there are plenty of people around, you'll see a head-turner about once a minute. They're hard to find in the US because they're in short supply, which means they're also expensive. In Colombia they're everywhere.[/QUOTE]It is why I love Colombia so much. I do not know why, but have you noticed that there is not much obesity?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2440078]The other adjustment is the cost index. I know a young woman in Medellin, from an estrato 6 family. Her husband is also from an estrato 6 family. She looks like a 23 year old Natalie Portman and graduated from University as a dentist. She also speaks almost fluent English. If you run a Dentist practice in the US and a bilingual and gorgeous new dentist applied for a job, you would probably throw money at her. In Colombia, the best paying job she could find came out to $540 per month.[/QUOTE]I had a orthodontist from Villavencio down to meet me, but she was too transactional. I am not sure if the degree could transfer, but that is one I would consider marrying, getting a license in the USA And put my feet up and let her provide for us. Just kidding, I think. LOL.


[QUOTE=JjBee62;2440078]You can pay $200-$400 a night for a hot GFE, or you can get the same for $100 or less. It appears you can also pay $200-$400 a month and get the full SB package. My suggestion is to go, see what is already on the market, at what price level and then readjust your expectations.[/QUOTE]

The hooker types, are fine, but I prefer the GF types, and I don't pay them anything but the occasional expense. I do not need webcams because of the amount of video sex I get with them. We do daily or weekly phone calls. That is what I play. Those are the novia types, and they would be insulted at a P4P type arrangement.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2441364]Okay, SH, here is a list for you on what you want.

In Bogota, this one, whose picture is not that great, was a real looker in real life and had close to a perfect body. I paid her top dollar, $140 for two rounds, and she was worth it: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5a786aa8-b938-4e4a-bb17-f15cc0ee8280[/URL].

This one has a different handle now, but you should be able to find her in Bogota with the information in the profile. She speaks English well. She is more cute than stunning, and her pictures look better than she is, but she is a balls to the wall, multi orgasmic, wall shaking type O gal. She was a lot of fun. I gave her like $80 for 2 hours. https://www.seeking.com/member/a88164f5-1cbb-47a8-88e5-e5ce0c21957c

This one is fit, fashionable. She is attractive and fashionable but not stunning, but I do not think no is in her vocabulary: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e9ed7422-33b2-4ccd-a928-a2bd933dbf5c[/URL].

For Barranquilla, I think all these gals will meet you in Cartagena..[/QUOTE]Some solid SB's in there. TY.

I take it you didn't do a meet & greet with any of these girls?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2441374]You are right to be cynical, but I do not insist on monogamy. Still, I have had multiple women after meeting me take their profiles off of seeking by their choice. I also am not paying by the month. Some live with their parents and it would be hard for them to get away and others work 6 days per week. Even if she is a GF or fiance type, I would not recommend monthly allowances though. Helping out when they are hurting like almost everyone is now is one thing, but dependence is another.[/QUOTE]I think that either way can be wrong, or right, depending on the girl.

[QUOTE]That is something you save for at least the third date. Doing so too early is spoiling them. If you want a girl to fly to another country like Mexico or Aruba, you have to send them $500 or they will not make it through customs so you had better trust them not to just put that money in their pocket. Other fucked up part is top of the line cosmetics are same price as here in the malls.[/QUOTE]I have no plan or desire to fly anyone to another country. If I'm going somewhere else, I want to sample the local dishes, not imports. Traveling within Colombia however, is a possibility. Not only is it ridiculously cheap, but no hassles with immigration and no need to send a chunk of money.

[QUOTE]It is why I love Colombia so much. I do not know why, but have you noticed that there is not much obesity?[/QUOTE]My first trip to Colombia was 10 days in Bogota. I was walking the streets, riding the transmilenio and cruising the malls every day. Out of all those people I saw one I would classify as obese and probably less than 100 who I considered overweight.

[QUOTE]I had a orthodontist from Villavencio down to meet me, but she was too transactional. I am not sure if the degree could transfer, but that is one I would consider marrying, getting a license in the USA And put my feet up and let her provide for us. Just kidding, I think. LOL.

The hooker types, are fine, but I prefer the GF types, and I don't pay them anything but the occasional expense. I do not need webcams because of the amount of video sex I get with them. We do daily or weekly phone calls. That is what I play. Those are the novia types, and they would be insulted at a P4P type arrangement.[/QUOTE]For me, this is something I haven't done for many years. I'll flirt a little with the Facebook girls, but nothing too serious. There's no need. With this one, I'm conditioning her and testing her. If I dangle a subtle hint, does she take it? Does she respond to my innuendos? Will she initiate a conversation? Can she carry a conversation? I get frustrated with 1 word responses.

So far this girl is a pleasure. I don't have to explain my jokes, although I did confuse her once. She asked what I was doing and I said I was waiting to see a beautiful woman. She was confused, until I sent her back her own photo. Then she gushed for 5 minutes.

Mainly I'm just killing time with her. Keeping her as an option for when the planes are back in the air. I'll spend a little bit of the money I'm saving by the shutdown and see what I get in return.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2441360] I prefer American Strip clubs where you can get extras in the club quite a bit as it's a bit of fantasy fuck type thing.

If you like that then you must try the Santa Fe strip clubs. For 20 k you get about six songs and you can do almost anything while they are dancing naked on your lap.[/QUOTE]I love American clubs, just not the price! I would love to sit for songs with a girl / many girls to get warmed up and try them out before I take one upstairs. Any recommendations for specific ones in Santa Fe?

[QUOTE=SeekingHead;2441381]Some solid SB's in there. TY.

I take it you didn't do a meet & greet with any of these girls?[/QUOTE]I would do meet and greet in the hotel. I used an excuse of poor direction skills as an excuse (Mine are actually really good), and I would have them come to me.

So meet and greet would be at the hotel restaurant or bar. Because of the time constraints, I would take them up to the room or not. Outside of crazy money demands or my being sexually exhausted, I cannot recall anyone refusing. It is way different than in the states.

What you will find SH is that Colombian women are unbelievable sexual performers but also amazingly sweet. Sure, there are many gold digging and working girl types, but I have yet to find an American woman, even one who herself is loaded, have pride to say that they are not interested in money. I think that is what is interesting to me. There are women who really do not want to be seen as taking money for sex. If you did that with an American woman, she would label you a cheap bastard.

I think that is why being a SB has caught on and caught on too well in the USA It is become part of the main stream to ask a guy "What can you do for me?" or "I am looking for ROI (return on investment). " It is almost as if now all American women have become working girls, and it took me coming to Colombia to see otherwise.

Hello,

Why is no-one posting photos in this thread?

[QUOTE=Butter69;2442232]Hello,

Why is no-one posting photos in this thread?[/QUOTE]HAHA I was wondering the same thing also. It's slim picking right now homie. Here is a picture I took the last time I was there. Most on this board know who she is because we have brought thousands of dollars to her in commission from this site. Too bad we cannot post videos!