Nairobi

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2188347]

Having more experience in Thailand I don't see the reason to spend nearly same as in a western country for an accomodation that in Thailand would cost 20/40% - and thIs applies all along other issues.

.[/QUOTE]I have a 3* Hotel in Nairobi for 5 K and a better accomodation in Mombasa for even less.

My point is that in Kenya with some flirting and shillings the girls from shops and restaurants I get naked after at most the second dinner is around 50 percent. In my country it is about 2 percent.

What will be the percentage in Thailand or South America?

Me I don't like blow job bars and discos.

[QUOTE=SceticoBlu;2188461]What will be the percentage in Thailand or South America?

Me I don't like blow job bars and discos.[/QUOTE]I am qualified to answer as I live in Thailand and been traveling from city to city looking for Non-Pro. Your chance is Zero. Let me repeat as my English is not perfect, your chance to date a 22 years old from a Mall, shop etc and have a dinner assuming your age is past 35 years is zero. If you are 25 or even 30 then you will get a nice GF.

One more trivial thing that we tend to forget. No one speak a word in English out of the tourist path. Girls can't talk with you even if they want to. So you need to be super handsome and below 30 to enjoy life. So what is left is to get Pros or super ugly and short girls with children in from provinces as your date. And even this is hard.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2188347]Honestly I wasn't there in a mongering status. So, indeed, logistic, prices, infrastructure were the judging factors.

Having more experience in Thailand I don't see the reason to spend nearly same as in a western country for an accomodation that in Thailand would cost 20/40% - and thIs applies all along other issues.

Food choice is limited and as soon as you venture in something more appropriate prices go up.

Fact is that you pay premium prices and people has third world salaries.[/QUOTE]I fully agree that in terms of food as soon as you go into normal or european standard, prices get crazy.

A dinner for 2 in Italian restaurant with a basic bottle of wine cost me 80 usd, in Bamburi (for those who know Yul's restaurant).

Same for hotels, prices are too high for what you get.

However, chicas for all night cost you less than 3 or 4 whiskys.

This is amazing!

[QUOTE=Bond69X;2188621]I fully agree that in terms of food as soon as you go into normal or european standard, prices get crazy.

A dinner for 2 in Italian restaurant with a basic bottle of wine cost me 80 usd, in Bamburi (for those who know Yul's restaurant).

Same for hotels, prices are too high for what you get.

However, chicas for all night cost you less than 3 or 4 whiskys.

This is amazing![/QUOTE]Pussy is one of the cheapest things in Kenya.

[QUOTE=MadaExpert;2188487]I am qualified to answer as I live in Thailand and been traveling from city to city looking for Non-Pro. Your chance is Zero. Let me repeat as my English is not perfect, your chance to date a 22 years old from a Mall, shop etc and have a dinner assuming your age is past 35 years is zero. If you are 25 or even 30 then you will get a nice GF.

One more trivial thing that we tend to forget. No one speak a word in English out of the tourist path. Girls can't talk with you even if they want to. So you need to be super handsome and below 30 to enjoy life. So what is left is to get Pros or super ugly and short girls with children in from provinces as your date. And even this is hard.[/QUOTE]Mada is correct on all points. I thought to make Pattaya a retirement option, but all the reasons Mada gave is why its not really a good one, although many expats are there living in cramped 30 square meter condo made of cheap materials for $60,000 and more. There are so many expats there the woman really has choice. New girls from the province are scooped like money lying in a road.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;2187883]I can't tell but there also seemed to be a little brotherhood for the brothers going on. So I have had people kinda tell me the deal. [/QUOTE]Kenyan women either like Kenyan men for the most part, or hate them for fucking around so much. Many like to fuck flashy Nigerians, but they know they're playing with fire with that.

[QUOTE=SceticoBlu;2188461]

My point is that in Kenya with some flirting and shillings the girls from shops and restaurants I get naked after at most the second dinner is around 50 percent. In my country it is about 2 percent.

[/QUOTE]Definitely more than 50% in TZ.

Trying to figure this out and I've been reading the forum.

I think my airbnb is a calm and quiet so I don't know how much is happening there. Are there places in Nairobi to meet women then take them back to a small room? Is that how Sabina Joy, Liddos or Black Diamond work? Meet someone then have a little fun then on with your way? I encountered this a lot in Southeast Asia so I'm trying to figure that out. Yes rookie mistake on no hotel but I'll be there for a bit so I'm trying to figure that out.

I see a lot of you recommending apps or just meeting people but I'm wondering what are the best places to simply meet a lady and go for a room. Definite it props if anyone knows the best place to find tall Kenyan amazon / ladies.

Appreciate it and I'm still perusing the forum, but I'm not exactly finding a direct place to meet then hookup.

[QUOTE=HaynesPi87;2189253]Trying to figure this out and I've been reading the forum.

I think my airbnb is a calm and quiet so I don't know how much is happening there. Are there places in Nairobi to meet women then take them back to a small room? Is that how Sabina Joy, Liddos or Black Diamond work? Meet someone then have a little fun then on with your way? I encountered this a lot in Southeast Asia so I'm trying to figure that out. Yes rookie mistake on no hotel but I'll be there for a bit so I'm trying to figure that out.

I see a lot of you recommending apps or just meeting people but I'm wondering what are the best places to simply meet a lady and go for a room. Definite it props if anyone knows the best place to find tall Kenyan amazon / ladies.

Appreciate it and I'm still perusing the forum, but I'm not exactly finding a direct place to meet then hookup.[/QUOTE]At nairobi is easy to get girls everywhere. Try diffrent methods and look which works best for you!! You can find girls on tinder, badoo, tagged, afrointroductions chat with them agree the price and invite them at your place but try not to pay more than 1500- 2000 shillings for short time and 3000-3500 shillings all night. You will see many girls on dating sites will ask 50-100 dollars just bargain and never pay this price!! You can also get girls for free if keen date few times invite them for dinner, drinks and threat them nice other ways, but most of the times its cost more money anyway at the end. You can talk with girls on streets also and collect numbers. Black diamond is nice place to find freelancers also, just most of a girls have bad attitude here and are pushy for buying them drinks and asking sillly prices for short time or all night so be wise here find right one and don't pay more than 3000-4000 for all night.

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I never use boda boda at nairobi myself before because its wasnt safest way to travel without helmet and with drivers who drives like crazy, but next time I will give a go with helmet its looks safer little bit and at least you know who is picking you up and good to avoid worst traffic at nairobi!

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2189519]At nairobi is easy to get girls everywhere. Try diffrent methods and look which works best for you!! You can find girls on tinder, badoo, tagged, afrointroductions chat with them agree the price and invite them at your place but try not to pay more than 1500- 2000 shillings for short time and 3000-3500 shillings all night. You will see many girls on dating sites will ask 50-100 dollars just bargain and never pay this price!! You can also get girls for free if keen date few times invite them for dinner, drinks and threat them nice other ways, but most of the times its cost more money anyway at the end. You can talk with girls on streets also and collect numbers. Black diamond is nice place to find freelancers also, just most of a girls have bad attitude here and are pushy for buying them drinks and asking sillly prices for short time or all night so be wise here find right one and don't pay more than 3000-4000 for all night.[/QUOTE]Appreciate it my issue was my place. I need a place just for the short time. I can't use my place. Are there short time hotels that's more my question. Interesting on the streets. Black Diamond. Hmmm looks like I'l have to try those apps then ugh I didn't want to.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2189531]I never use boda boda at nairobi myself before because its wasnt safest way to travel without helmet and with drivers who drives like crazy, but next time I will give a go with helmet its looks safer little bit and at least you know who is picking you up and good to avoid worst traffic at nairobi![/QUOTE]I would kill to have a Go Pro on my head during some of my epic boda boda rides. I rode from Ginkomba once to town and we almost killed a kid, got run over by a bus, on sidewalks, it was extreme riding, and yes, you will beat traffic!

[QUOTE=HaynesPi87;2189253]Trying to figure this out and I've been reading the forum. I think my airbnb is a calm and quiet so I don't know how much is happening there. Are there places in Nairobi to meet women then take them back to a small room? Is that how Sabina Joy, Liddos or Black Diamond work? Meet someone then have a little fun then on with your way? I encountered this a lot in Southeast Asia so I'm trying to figure that out. Yes rookie mistake on no hotel but I'll be there for a bit so I'm trying to figure that out. I see a lot of you recommending apps or just meeting people but I'm wondering what are the best places to simply meet a lady and go for a room. Definite it props if anyone knows the best place to find tall Kenyan amazon / ladies. Appreciate it and I'm still perusing the forum, but I'm not exactly finding a direct place to meet then hookup.[/QUOTE]Dude,

You got to read more. I alone have provided five years of info, and I know your questions will be answered, but am feeling motherly, so I will feed you: Liddos is a strip bar, and they have beds there, so its expected you fuck a chic there. She will inflate prices to come to your room before or after work. Black DIA chicks will inflate so you really have to bargain there. They are a bit hardcore there because they feel they are top dollar. Sabina Joy is a Kenyan joint, there are beds there. Southeast Asia is a 180 degree different mindset in my opinion. Don't try to fit square pegs in round holes.

ABB landlords don't give two shit about who you bring to the room, at least in my experience. All they want is they're money. Why get a cheap room? The logistics of finding a chic in BD, going to CBD to your room, then back to your ABB in the dead of night is a bit too much, and the both of you are exposing yourselves to robbery being out that early if you leave the room.

[QUOTE=HaynesPi87;2189584]
Appreciate it my issue was my place. I need a place just for the short time[/QUOTE]Next Tom Mboya street there are some GH for about 2. 5 K per night. In this bracket you should find rooms everywhere around in Nairobi.

[QUOTE=NakedGunz;2189662]I would kill to have a Go Pro on my head during some of my epic boda boda rides. I rode from Ginkomba once to town and we almost killed a kid, got run over by a bus, on sidewalks, it was extreme riding, and yes, you will beat traffic![/QUOTE]Sounds like you have extreme journey its most important your ride finish with happy end.