Angeles City

My 2 week tour is finished. 7:30 an I checked in for my flight and my AC girl went home on the Genesis 8 am bus.

Friends and Family plan worked out great along with a few new barfines. Nothing to complain about here.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2814352]Your friend is correct. Do the math:

1/. There are many, many more foreigner friendly girls in Cebu than Walking Street. Cebu simply has a larger population. A LOT larger.

2/. Some / many hot girls in AC are Korean or drinks only and will not be going home with a white guy under any circumstance. I haven't found this in Cebu. My experience has been that any Cebu girl happy to date a foreign guy doesn't care if that foreigner is white, yellow, brown or green.

2/. The typical source of AC working girls is poor, destitute, single moms not the thousands of regular girls who flood into Cebu looking for quality schools or jobs.

3/. AC feed stock generally comes from Lyete or Samar (think Isaan and Pattaya). Great if you prefer spinner body types but no so good if you are looking for tall and slim or buxom girls. Poverty and poor nutrition exaggerates this. True cebuana I find to be the whole range from 5'0" and homely to tall and slim. However, to these you add all the other imported ethnicities. The Philippines is an archipelago where different areas produce girls with strikingly different features. Porcelain white skinned girls, tall and stacked, honey brown skinned, huge jugs on a tiny frame: whatever you prefer, seek and ye shall find!

Here is the rebuttal and it's a big one: walk into AC and, if you aren't too fussy, you can be getting laid within minutes of arrival; Cebu is a huge city but it's not point and shoot. It does have a settling in period for newbies to find their feet and make things happen. I've had several guys complain that this period is too long and took up most of their stay. For those prepared to wait, there are rewards. However, it does take time.

In summary (sorry about the long post): in town for a few days, not super fussy and want point and shoot, then go to AC and have a blast; have some extra time, looking for better quality and looking girls and prepared to put in some ground work, then bypass AC and go to Cebu.

I should also add that if your also looking for other things to do beyond getting laid 24/7, then Cebu wins hands down.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Hit the nail on the head with this one, great post.

So true to say that many of the better looking slimmer angeles bargirls are drinks only girls and will not leave with anyone, even the very high spending koreans who are far preffered customers by many bargirls have problems getting their 1st,2nd,3rd etc choice girls to leave the bar.

Yes its true if one lives in a loveless country where a jump with a whale is impossible or has been locked up in solitary for the last 10 years and is so desperate for some pussy then an angeles visit might be heaven, not so desperate and not willing to greatly lower ones standards to almost nil then one will be greatly dissapointed in angeles, sorry to be truthful but it needs saying.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2815312]10 years ago.

Armed guards with sawed off shotguns in most businesses.

4-5 15 yo glue sniffing boys trying rob your pockets.

3 or more ladyboys trying to steal your wallet on the street.

Pickpockets galore walking around.

Cell phone snatch and runners.

Most bars girls were inexperienced country bumpkins from Samar.

High percentage were runners.

I like today better.[/QUOTE]Angeles better than 10 years ago?

I think you will find that the angeles of today has even more armed guards with automatic weapons at establishments.

Multiple more glue sniffing street kids on every st corner leading up to walking st.

Multiple more ladyboys on every st corner than before.

Pickpockets, cell phone snatchers, muggers etc all alive and well in angeles.

Girls promising long time and charging for long time only to run after the 1st pop are at very high levels, of course if one barfines the older fatter more desperate girls then number of runners decreases dramatically.

As stated, not sure what there is to like more than 10 years ago IMHO.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2814613]Hello Pickley,

IMO Angeles City has been ruined. Since about 2011. I see no reason to return as the pictures and stories from another board with Philippines in their name have more activity on "other places" like Thailand or Indonesia. Now I am happy you still dig the place! Really I am! I would guess there is still some magic out there but. I'll answer specifically Why I as an example feel the place Sucks now.

1) The hotels are obnoxiously expensive compared to Pattaya.

2) The ladies have gained weight and are older and more used up than say in 2004. (See pictures of AC Bargirls pre 2009).

3) Raids and other legal gray area matters have plagued Angeles City for about 15 years or so.

4) Being a 2 week millionaire from USA means nothing to the ladies now. They are not as excited to see American $ versus other nationalities money.
(5) The ladies have many more work options like Call Centers or other Business outsourcing they can do and hey - good for them, I am not hating.

Overall around 2002-2005 it was BBFS CIP heaven over there. And a lot of this creampieing was with BEAUTIFUL ladies who were slim and sexy.

Today. With the magic of Google Translate. I can simply head to Thailand and ask the ladies if they want my load. Philippines ladies speak English is no longer very important.

There is HUGE variety in Thailand. There are SO MANY bars in Thailand.

In Angeles City I still hear people posting about the same 3 or 4 bars over and over again. Sorry. Call me old. But I won't be back anytime soon since the Heyday is over. Again, just my opinion and I am not trying to say I am right. It's just that it's easier and cheaper to find what I want elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Excellent post, Thanks for telling some home truths, egree with most all of what you say.

I arrived in Angels City yesterday, and I'm collecting data to help all the randy guys like me trapped in the West. I created a new username since my last one was not sufficiently anonymous. Here are my notes so far.

E-health.

This turned out to be nothing to worry about. The website asks you if you are vaccinated, but no evidence is required. It also asks if you had Covid in the last 30 days, which I did but have been testing negative. I didn't admit that and I got a green pass.

United makes you upload a picture of you vaccination record, but they are not able to validate the e-health pass so I had to check in at the airport. I had to call a gate agent over. The only instructions she had were to check my travel documents. She had no idea what the e-health pass was. I showed her my green pass and she checked me in.

In Manila there was a line for green passes and a line for red. Nobody was manning the green line and nobody checked my pass.

Transport.

Margarita Station car was shockingly expensive at 4,000 PHP, but it was nice to be transported directly to my accommodations.

Accommodations.

I always think I'm going to splurge on ABC, but then I look at the pictures and can't bring myself to book it. The rooms look tacky, and the bathrooms look old and tired. I booked an Airbnb in the new One Euphoria condo tower. It's a nice little modern room with a kitchenette and a bathroom that doesn't look like it's from 1980.

Angeles City.

Say what you will about Pattaya, but at least it's not a third-world dump. It's always shocking to see the shacks, homeless sleeping on the sidewalks, crippled and deformed beggars and urchins repeatedly asking for money at ATMs.

First Night Out.

I spent a few months here back in 2014 and 2017. At those times people complained about how the good old days were gone. Now those are the good old days. I accept the fact that I can't go back and things are different.

There's been a lot of complaining about girls not bar fining. I dismissed those reports as being from jaded guys that weren't making an effort. My data is limited and anecdotal, but maybe they have a point. But I can confirm the classic GFE can still be experienced.

My first stop was Lollipop, which I have fond memories of and there have been good reports. On my first night I tend to be a little more liberal buying drinks, so I bought one for the ugly annoying waitress that sat next to me and kept talking to me. Most of the lineup was fugly, but I spotted a perfect ten, a jewel in the rough. Tall, slim, big boobs. No tattoos, wearing neon tape instead of a top. I asked the waitress to call her down. She had a sparkling personality, was 20, and baby-free.

I asked about taking her out and she said since she had to stay until 9 since she had to do shows. Alarm bells rang but this girl was amazing. In the past showgirls and cherry girls would straight up tell you they wouldn't go out and she wasn't saying that. I had to make a quick call and I decided to keep buying drinks for annoying waitress and beautiful showgirl until 9. Of course at nine she said she was on mens. I didn't burn any bridges and finished the last drink with her and said I'd come back in a couple days. It would probably be a waste of time.

I cut my losses and went to La Bamba, another bar with fond memories. All the girls were short and average but young and cute. These girls weren't 10's, but I like short cute girls. They were all very friendly so I had to pick one quickly to call down. She was going on 19, bubbly and very hands on. In the past it was fun to spend time building rapport in the bar so I bought a few rounds of drinks. When I inquired about going she dropped a bombshell. According to her the is no barfine and La Bamba! Can that be true? I asked how we could meet up and she said to give her my Facebook. Then she said she was on mens and couldn't meet for a few days. Of course she didn't friend me on Facebook. Another waste of time and money.

At this point I was feeling the jetlag and had used up most of my limited introvert energy. I went in Q-Bar and looked at the fuggly lineup and left.

Next up was Monsoon. This time I didn't buy the waitress a drink. I spotted a pretty dancer in a sparkly dress and ask to buy a drink for her. The waitress said she didn't work here. Weird. I paid up and headed out, but at this time she was sitting with the other dancers. I went up to her and asked if she's working and she said yes so I told her I want to buy a drink.

I was tired and low energy but chatted with her. She's 25 from Samar. The previous two were from here. She was pretty and charming. I didn't wait too long about asking her to go out and she said yeah. So I paid the shockingly hight 4,000 PHP and took her home.

It was a classic experience as good as any from the past. She was passionate, gave BBFSCIP, spent the night, and did another session in the morning. I have the old dilemma of deciding if I want to see her again and risk having her get attached to me, or if I should roll the dice and keep hunting.

I'm still tired from jet lag, so on night two I will call for one of the massage girls that looked sort of cute handing out cards to come to my room.

Is there a place to buy doxycycline here? I used to get it from the Pharmacy right on Walking Street, but it is closed now. I went to the Filipino chain place down Fields but they wanted a prescription. I will try the Mercury Drug by the McDonald's later.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2816783]Hit the nail on the head with this one, great post.

So true to say that many of the better looking slimmer angeles bargirls are drinks only girls and will not leave with anyone, even the very high spending koreans who are far preffered customers by many bargirls have problems getting their 1st,2nd,3rd etc choice girls to leave the bar.

Yes its true if one lives in a loveless country where a jump with a whale is impossible or has been locked up in solitary for the last 10 years and is so desperate for some pussy then an angeles visit might be heaven, not so desperate and not willing to greatly lower ones standards to almost nil then one will be greatly dissapointed in angeles, sorry to be truthful but it needs saying.[/QUOTE]I'm a newb who's never been to AC. You can see my previous post in this thread. Are there any places you suggest as alternatives to AC for easy / young / hot BBFSCIP? I don't mind paying a premium for quality and convenience. There does not seem to be an "AC" in latin america or europe or really anywhere else in asia? You come across as the most critical poster here and seem to have high standards, so what's your strategy? I'm debating whether a place like AC is even worth it because I can already get BBFSCIP locally from Koreans in the USA whom on average look better than filipinas.

I've been reading that in several bars they pull off small scams (like, for example, paying for lady drinks to a girl that you could potentially barfine, and then she tells you she can't go with you, maybe because of her period or something) and also that once you barfine a girl for a long time, you have sex once and she quickly leaves.

Can you guys tell me which bars are more honest about all these things? I'll only be there for a few days and I don't want to be fooled all the time.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Gorrion;2817226]I've been reading that in several bars they pull off small scams (like, for example, paying for lady drinks to a girl that you could potentially barfine, and then she tells you she can't go with you, maybe because of her period or something) and also that once you barfine a girl for a long time, you have sex once and she quickly leaves.
Can you guys tell me which bars are more honest about all these things? I'll only be there for a few days and I don't want to be fooled all the time.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]This can happen to the best of us from time to time, I have had it happen to me a few times over the years, there is no 100% way to combat it, but I do suggest to dramatically reduce the odds is to be very upfront about your asks before buying a lady-drink or committing to pay money (such as barfine), or a technique that I find works well for somewhere new if I don't have that much time to hand; is to buy the mamasan a drink (or give a tip), tell her what you want and she will usually be happy to supply you with what you are looking for within reason as well as give you the lowdown on prices, types of service and so on.

Good luck and happy hunting.

[QUOTE=GhostD;2817276]This can happen to the best of us from time to time, I have had it happen to me a few times over the years, there is no 100% way to combat it, but I do suggest to dramatically reduce the odds is to be very upfront about your asks before buying a lady-drink or committing to pay money (such as barfine), or a technique that I find works well for somewhere new if I don't have that much time to hand; is to buy the mamasan a drink (or give a tip), tell her what you want and she will usually be happy to supply you with what you are looking for within reason as well as give you the lowdown on prices, types of service and so on.

Good luck and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips, I will be very nice with the mamasan and I will try to make all the questions before paying anything.

I continued my boots on the ground research. I walked all the way down to the Perimeter bars. Only about five remain, and they are all terrible. Gone is Det 5, which was packed full of 18,19, 20 year old cuties five years ago. There was one girl that was kind of cute in XXX who I chatted with for a while. I talked to a slightly older cute waitress too about barfines. On walking street there is only one option, but here there is a price for ST and LT, I think 3000 or 3500. Since I sort of liked the waitress too I joked about a threesome, and both girls seemed into it. Being that these girls were cute but not stunners, and it was only like 2:30 pm, I respectfully exited to continue my walk and said I would be back. I think I actually will.

I noticed that dancers are no longer outside trying to entice you to go in. Only guys and fuglies are outside the bars now. There must be a new law requiring girls stay inside. The dancers no longer wear numbers either.

After killing time in SM since Walking Street in the daytime is a depressing hellhole I went out early at 5 pm. I think the key to a good time is to know which bars are fun, and which to avoid. If you are a newbie with no idea you will waste a lot of time in terrible Korean bars. Now I had some great experiences in Korean bars, but some, like Bunny at the end of the street are bad. I had fond memories of Bunny Ranch in the same location from 2017, which had about 10 pretty young girls. My first girl was into threesomes and I managed to bang every girl in that bar. It closed because nobody walked that far down the street I guess. The new Bunny had a stageful of girls, some of which where cute. But they were all sitting sullenly on the stage. Some of them did smile at me, so I probably could have picked one of those girls. When groups of Koreans walked in a buzzer went off and they all stood up and smiled. The waitress asked me to pick and I picked a cutie with bangs. But she wasn't one that smiled at me and flatly refused to come down. This is one of the bars that Koreans come to at 5 pm and pick the prettiest girls. Not all bars are like this.

I walked all the way down to Old Bar, formerly the Bar, a fun bar I have fond memories of threesomes from. I can report it's still fun. About a dozen friendly cuties. I picked one, 23, from Lyte and spent some time in her bar, establishing early on that she would leave with me. I never specify that she will end the night at my place for boom boom, instead I usually suggest we visit another bar and that is usually good enough although a very few times I did get burned for not being explicit. When one of her co-dancers sat next to me I joked about a three way and they seemed like they would be into it. But I wanted to try out my girl first before adding a second one.

I paid the expensive 4,000 and the sex turned out pretty good. I'd sort of prefer to wake up alone, but like the other night's girl long time was assumed with no discussion and there was a morning session. So that's 2/2 long times for 4,000.

Going through an exit clearance now, guessing it's easier doing it in Angeles but it's still a pain. Number one thing I dislike is leaving my passport with them for three days. Then there's the time wasted, getting 4 photos made at the kiosk next to immigration and photocopies of everything. Was cheap but the whole process seems like a money grab. I can see why guys either travel before 6 months or wait the three years before they have to leave the country. Adding up the fees, trikes to and from and it's 1000 pesos. Three days to complete and they recommend it be done two weeks before your departure. From what I've heard only the main immigration office do these. And Angeles. So what do you do if you don't live near one? Stay at a hotel in a big city until it's done then go home or wait and fly out? Add this to the process and I can see why guys are leaving the country before 6 months. Nothing like getting fingerprinted and your photo taken to spend your morning. If you've never gotten biometrics done you have to show up, can't how an agent.

But they sure are more friendly than Thailand.

[QUOTE=ATraveler;2816848]Is there a place to buy doxycycline here? I used to get it from the Pharmacy right on Walking Street, but it is closed now. I went to the Filipino chain place down Fields but they wanted a prescription. I will try the Mercury Drug by the McDonald's later.[/QUOTE]Try the small mom and pop drug stores a few blocks or so away from Fields Avenue.

A recent visit to Angeles City (May 2023) revealed that the Perimeter Bars have more bang for your buck. A lot of Walking Street locations are quoting 5000 PHP total like Lollipop and sister establishment. Few places open during the day. Checked out the Vicking Bar and it was so so. Had some Red Horse and moved around outside of Walking Street.

[QUOTE=ATraveler;2816848]Is there a place to buy doxycycline here? I used to get it from the Pharmacy right on Walking Street, but it is closed now. I went to the Filipino chain place down Fields but they wanted a prescription. I will try the Mercury Drug by the McDonald's later.[/QUOTE]There's a convenience store on the left side on fields ave. I can't remember exactly where it is but it's past royal Amsterdam and before you get to McDonald's. Just ask the clerk and they'll sell by the pill. I don't remember many convenience stores on the main section of fields so shouldn't be hard to find.