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I saw that 1 sale a day has unlocked phones for 39.99 or 2000 pesos. Thinking about picking up a few for the chicas. Always running into some that don't have a phone. A cellphone for TLN may work as opposed to 2000 pesos.

Thoughts?

[QUOTE=DcGogo;2138884]I saw that 1 sale a day has unlocked phones for 39.99 or 2000 pesos. Thinking about picking up a few for the chicas. Always running into some that don't have a phone. A cellphone for TLN may work as opposed to 2000 pesos.

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]That only works if the Chica really needs a phone. I like plugging them into the matrix when they need it. Remember money trumps all. I usually give options. ST 1000 if you're malo 1500 regular if you are good more. That can lead to 2000 pesos or a phone or in some cases both. I pay per performance. I see you're a lot like me. Even though I wouldn't session with Patrick Ewing. It's not about how pretty the chica looks. It's about the performance in the bedroom. 10's and 9's beauty queens are often overrated.

I used to tell my friends when they first get there. First you're going to have sex with the chicas of your dreams, then you're going to look for someone you can have fun with in bed.

The gym is around 250 pesos a day or 600 for the week. Most days it closes around 9. On Saturday it closes at 1. It is on the top floor above the casino at the entrance to the beach.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2138397]The reason against doing it is because most people are going to rip themselves off. [/QUOTE]I completely understand your view point. Your South African Rand was an interesting example but the DR economy (in contrast to your example) is very heavily dollar denominated. Petroleum is traded in dollars (one of their biggest expenses), Tourism income is in dollars (although I am sure Euro counts as well) and all the repatriation of DR emigres are primarily in dollars. No wonder people are so familiar with the USD and that would help any tourist to manage without looking for a bank late at night. So my point was precise and the field very circumscribed: If I get to the DR (SDQ or STI or POP) late at night with no local money in pocket, can I get by with dollars? The answer is a clear "yes". I can pay the right amount if I have the right breakdown of the currency (and can count) without getting ripped off and the day after I can go to change my money into the local currency.

I made my maiden trip. Very impressive specimens. If I was rich it would take me 2 weeks to knock off my faves. Considering transport I won't be frequenting. Drinks or cheap and I prefer the girls wear lingerie. Probably worth it if you get GFE and lots of time. I think I saw some of the girls freelancing on Clisante. Perfectly happy paying 1500 to 3 k for a 8 instead of 6 k for a dime.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2138901]That only works if the Chica really needs a phone. I like plugging them into the matrix when they need it. Remember money trumps all. I usually give options. ST 1000 if you're malo 1500 regular if you are good more. That can lead to 2000 pesos or a phone or in some cases both. I pay per performance. I see you're a lot like me. Even though I wouldn't session with Patrick Ewing. It's not about how pretty the chica looks. It's about the performance in the bedroom. 10's and 9's beauty queens are often overrated.

I used to tell my friends when they first get there. First you're going to have sex with the chicas of your dreams, then you're going to look for someone you can have fun with in bed.[/QUOTE]Tru that, Cash is king. I just like using different baits when I hunt, pesos, dresses, perfumes, panties, this was just another thing to add to my tackle box. You got to put me on to the hair game that's next level.

Also true about the "chicas of your dreams" I went there on my first trip. Girl is gorgeous and sweet but too dang money hungry but I was young and dumb and fed her too well. She started asking for money for her kids clothes and tuition. Still would see her (I'll post pic) she does not look like one of Ewings kids LOL.

The best one I had was a student from SD, can do this thing with her coochie and at only 22! I snuck money in her bag one day and when she got home and found it was mad that I did that. Has never asked me for money in 6 months that I have know her. Only problem with the one's that don't want money is that they are looking for a husband. Been there done that. Its cheaper to rent or use Uber (had to sneak that in) as opposed to buying a car.

So far I can't get the cuties below 1500.

[QUOTE=DcGogo;2138884]I saw that 1 sale a day has unlocked phones for 39.99 or 2000 pesos. Thinking about picking up a few for the chicas. Always running into some that don't have a phone. A cellphone for TLN may work as opposed to 2000 pesos.

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]You go to work and your boss tries to pay you with a cell phone. Will that work for you, when you had a long list of things you needed from Walmart? Why go through the trouble of finding cell phones to buy then giving them to chicks that have to find someone to sell it to when you could have just given her money and let her buy what she needed. It is the same as giving stuff to the needy. Don't buy coats and toys, just give the money for the people or organization to buy what is needed.

Most people these days have a phone anyway. And if they haven't been able to afford getting one, chances are they won't be able to afford keeping credit on it. The good thing about mongering is that you don't need gimmicks or lures as you do with a regular chick; all you have to do is show up with money. Plus money is easier to carry than all that other stuff.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2138972]You go to work and your boss tries to pay you with a cell phone. Will that work for you, when you had a long list of things you needed from Walmart? Why go through the trouble of finding cell phones to buy then giving them to chicks that have to find someone to sell it to when you could have just given her money and let her buy what she needed. It is the same as giving stuff to the needy. Don't buy coats and toys, .[/QUOTE]Duly noted, though your logic seems flawed to me. Of course I wouldn't take a cell phone, but first and foremost because its value is less than what would be owed to me. A somewhat better argument would be if someone was going to finish my basement for say $5000 but I also know they need a work van and I happen to have one that is worth say $6000. I make them the offer of either the van or the cash, but it is their choice.

That is what I am giving them a choice. Straight pesos (2000) or a phone that may be worth say 2500 to them.

As far as the needy (homeless), I don't give them cash, they don't need cash, they need the things that cash can bring them. Clothing, food, shelter. A homeless man that needs a coat, would be far better off with warm coat that I no longer want than 20 bucks.

Just trying to spark a different conversation than the normal, who loves Sosua, who hates Sosua, who's trolling who and who's calling who out.

We all have our ways what works, works.

[QUOTE=DcGogo;2139011]Duly noted, though your logic seems flawed to me. Of course I wouldn't take a cell phone, but first and foremost because its value is less than what would be owed to me.[/QUOTE]Not flawed at all. Your rate is $50/ hour and your boss tries to push a $150 cell phone off on you for working 3 hours, when you had overdue utility bills and a bare cupboard at home. Neither Sosua Luz nor La Sirena accepts cell phones as payment. Money was invented because not everyone was in the market for a cell phone, left boot, used alternator, etc as payment.

[QUOTE=DcGogo;2139011]As far as the needy (homeless), I don't give them cash, they don't need cash, they need the things that cash can bring them. Clothing, food, shelter. A homeless man that needs a coat, would be far better off with warm coat that I no longer want than 20 bucks.[/QUOTE]We are all needy. That is why we go to work to get money to exchange for things that we know will fullfill our personal needs. In Cuba the people go to work and the government gives them the things that they suppose they need. I just gave a homeless guy a goose down coat. 2 hours later he broke out in a rash because he did not know the coat was filled with real bird feathers. Instead of trying to use my inept wisdom and proclaim what another person needed, I should have given them the cash and let them go at it themselves because who would know better than them what goods or services they themselves needed?

[QUOTE=DcGogo;2139011]Just trying to spark a different conversation than the normal, who loves Sosua, who hates Sosua, who's trolling who and who's calling who out.[/QUOTE]You definitely did that. I laughed myself to sleep with that Patrick Ewing, Aunt Esther deal. It just goes to show that as guys we can find one thing that we like about a chick and roll with that. Sometimes I go out and choose a chick just because of the hairdo that she has.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2139027]Not flawed at all. Your rate is $50/ hour and your boss tries to push a $150 cell phone off on you for working 3 hours, when you had overdue utility bills and a bare cupboard at home. Neither Sosua Luz nor La Sirena accepts cell phones as payment. Money was invented because not everyone was in the market for a cell phone, left boot, used alternator, etc as payment.

We are all needy. That is why we go to work to get money to exchange for things that we know will fullfill our personal needs. In Cuba the people go to work and the government gives them the things that they suppose they need. I just gave a homeless guy a goose down coat. 2 hours later he broke out in a rash because he did not know the coat was filled with real bird feathers. Instead of trying to use my inept wisdom and proclaim what another person needed, I should have given them the cash and let them go at it themselves because who would know better than them what goods or services they themselves needed?

You definitely did that. I laughed myself to sleep with that Patrick Ewing, Aunt Esther deal. It just goes to show that as guys we can find one thing that we like about a chick and roll with that. Sometimes I go out and choose a chick just because of the hairdo that she has.[/QUOTE]I understand what the homie is saying. I often give homeless people food and clothing because I'm more in control of their needs than their wants when its MY money. They might want cash for drugs so what use is it to contribute to their wants (drugs). IMO you are really contributing to something they might want verses something they might need when giving cash.

As far as the dresses and phones, it shows a creative side that most guys don't present. Understand when you are dealing with working girls you are dealing with girls who know how to hustle so sometimes having gifts and not cash taps into their hustle side. They can manage those gifts better then they can manage cash, plus the hustle in them makes them curious about what else is there. In a way you see a side of them that cash won't present. Personally I like to see the girls eyes light up like Christmas when I tell them I have a gift and tell them look there. Cash is more business like, gifts are more personal.

Another advantage is it breaks the ice. Seeing her eyes light up and having her try on the dresses gives you an insight on them and lets you see the loose. I remember in Cuba and me and my girl went to Grownmans crib in Cuba and he had ten dresses laid out neatly. My girl saw those dresses and grabbed her face with excitement. I stepped back and enjoyed the moment, happy for her but Grownman was licking his chops knowing he was going to get a show. She stripped down to her underwear and tried on every dress and even let us take pictures as she was enjoying her " Top model moment". Damn Grownman has more pictures of my girl than I do LOL.

Pretty much all the supposed top notch girls that work at said establishments can be approached outside. Got a Classic girl for 2 k. Apparently weekend warriors want to pay an inflated surcharge for the same girl I saw on Clisante a hour before. Competition is stiff for the girls. The working girls seem to come from the same source. I rather parking lot pimp a 7.5+ for 2 k. The 200Rd entrance to go upstairs isn't necessary unless your an alcoholic or like popping bottles and dancing. I'm an opportunist. The girls angle is a horn dog with a wallet full of pesos don't want to go home alone with bluebells hard balling over 500 pesos when he know that girl has the optics he likes. I'm picky but with over 200 girls I can find 5 to 10 chicas who gets the excitement and juices flowing.

[QUOTE=DcGogo;2139011]Duly noted, though your logic seems flawed to me. Of course I wouldn't take a cell phone, but first and foremost because its value is less than what would be owed to me. A somewhat better argument would be if someone was going to finish my basement for say $5000 but I also know they need a work van and I happen to have one that is worth say $6000. I make them the offer of either the van or the cash, but it is their choice.

That is what I am giving them a choice. [/QUOTE]That's a slam-dunk! I see you have been having a session with Patrick Ewing again. Let's say a pack of hair runs me $43 dollars. The value of that hair retails in the DR runs for about 4000- 5000 pesos. If a Chica needs hair what do you think she's going to choose.
My top distributor used to tell me baby give me two packs of hair so I can sell. She would prefer this over money. After three days of sessions Instead of giving her 4000 pesos; I give her two packs of hair. She can easily make up to 10,000 pesos because the chicas she sells the hair to may not have all the money. And has to pay her back in small increments until she reached 10,000 pesos.
We must remember that the DR is all about bargaining. In our culture cash is the Dominant bargaining tool when we need something. We don't have time to play the bargaining game. At least not on the level they play. This is why after a street vendor notice you might like his product and gives you his over exaggerated price. You say hell no! He then will asked you well "how much will you give me"? He knows it's not about the item or how much he paid. It's how much you want or need what he has to offer so he can maximize its profit.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2138928]I completely understand your view point. Your South African Rand was an interesting example but the DR economy (in contrast to your example) is very heavily dollar denominated. Petroleum is traded in dollars (one of their biggest expenses), Tourism income is in dollars (although I am sure Euro counts as well) and all the repatriation of DR emigres are primarily in dollars. No wonder people are so familiar with the USD and that would help any tourist to manage without looking for a bank late at night. So my point was precise and the field very circumscribed: If I get to the DR (SDQ or STI or POP) late at night with no local money in pocket, can I get by with dollars? The answer is a clear "yes". I can pay the right amount if I have the right breakdown of the currency (and can count) without getting ripped off and the day after I can go to change my money into the local currency.[/QUOTE]I realized something following your exchange with Mr E. He may or may not have realized it. But you made a straw man argument when you said you disagreed with him. You implied that he said USD was unacceptable to use.

But that assessment of his position is not accurate in the context he was using. The emphasis of his post wasnt that USD was unacceptable, or that you can't get by using USD. Mr E's focus was on the benefits of using local currency, what locals expect, and to avoid ripping oneself off.

A poster asked this question and he responded to it.

[QUOTE]3. Are people accepting dollars and what denominations are preferable ? Would a stack of singles be useful for tipping and bus/public transport ?[/QUOTE].

In that question, there was no emphasis on can somebody use USD until they can exchange money. Or because it's late at night and the banks are closed. It was a general question about people accepting dollars and what denomination would be preferable. , and would a stack of singles be useful for tipping / public transport?

And Mr E's answer reflected a general response to what was asked, emphasizing that locals are not necessarily looking to be paid in USD. So in essence there is no need to concern oneself about what preferred denomination of USD one should carry. Nor is there a need to have a stack of singles on hand to tip or pay for transport. The poster reading can take the info and decide for himself what he chooses to do with it. Some guys might assimilate what was provided as survival guide, or how to blend in type of info. Points you made are helpful too. But it is in addition to what Mr E provided.

So when you talked about using USD because one may not have exchanged money yet. Or mentioned how you use USD to tip etc, you changed the focus from what Mr E and the poster was discussing to something else.

I'm sure Mr E or any logical person would use whatever currency they had until they could exchange money. So based on that, Mr E's focus and yours do not match. So I do not see a disagreement, I see a difference in perspectives being addressed.

Now if the poster asked, is it ok to use USD until such time one can exchange money, and he says, "NO WAY" Then you can say you and him disagree. But him discussing apples, and you interpreting his response as oranges, is not a disagreement.

Another thing guys can get from this, it's a good idea to save pesos so you can be better prepared once you return.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2139027]Not flawed at all. Your rate is $50/ hour and your boss tries to push a $150 cell phone off on you for working 3 hours, when you had overdue utility bills and a bare cupboard at home. Neither Sosua Luz nor La Sirena accepts cell phones as payment. [/QUOTE]My final thoughts on this.

I see where you're going but my boss can't pay me less because I am an employee. A chica that you meet on the strip on in a club is NOT your employee. True a chica and an employee both perform a service for some compensation but that is where the similarity ends. An employee is much more.

The definition of an employee is "An individual who works part-time or full-time under a contract of employment, whether oral or written, express or implied, and has recognized rights and duties. " Most would also add that an employee works for an agreed upon wage or salary.

A chica has no contract with you when you meet her and she has no recognized duties, her duties could include a HJ, sex or whatever she agrees to at that time. Finally there is no agreed upon wage. In the forum I have seen people say that get what they want from "free" to paying in the 1000's of pesos.

If I had described a scenario where I promised a chica (entered into a verbal contract) 1000 (wage) for a BJ (duties) and then told her I was only going to pay her 750 pesos or give her a dress instead then you comparison would be completely on point.

I won't even go into why money was invented.

Thanks for your opinion. Its refreshing to see people can agree to have differing views on this board without getting personal.