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[QUOTE=DCups;2826221]Yes and Patts has bigger boobs for us boob addicts. But I still prefer PI girls for the GFE / BBFS. Cheers.[/QUOTE]Also for the non boob fiends. For those looking for long and lean bikini bodies, anything over 5'3" is pretty rare in PI. Not so elsewhere.
Hi, I know Santos St is very dead these days re blow-job bars, but when I was there about 3 years ago, there were still a couple of places that offered BJs (in-house or apartment visit). They were just to the west of Santos. That closed loop road where Clouds Bar is (Suri Luisa St and Surla St and Karen Alley). Are they still there? Thanks.
[QUOTE=DonMalo;2826226]Sex is only sex if it is bareback. No bareback, no party. In Manila I thought one girl ask me for condom, I was shocked by her question. NEXT.
What means CIP? Could be fake sex more common in Phillippines for our next years?[/QUOTE]CIP the abbreviation for Cum-In-Pussy. Often expressed within BBFSCIP for Bareback Full Service Cum-In-Pussy! Angeles City sole claim to fame is the fact that BBFSCIP is standard service at no extra cost. Yes. It could be that fake sex or no sex will be on sale for the future years in AC. The pandemic pretty much killed off the AC mongering scene, and it certainly killed off many of the old pre-pandemic mongering patrons. The pandemic wiped out the handful of remaining Western-owned bars that were gasping on their last leg. Most Western mongers only visit the city for the nostalgia of the times when countless bars offered cheap BBFSCIP and BBBJCIM.
[QUOTE=DonMalo;2826226]Sex is only sex if it is bareback. No bareback, no party. In Manila I thought one girl ask me for condom, I was shocked by her question. NEXT.
.......[/QUOTE]Fortunately for me I mongered in the 1970's so I had tons of bareback sex. However, with the advent of AIDS and antibiotic resistant STDs I've decided not to push my luck and cover up, I'm not as brave or as lucky as you guys.
Moved here awhile back, tried out the Cebu area and was shocked by the lack of a bar scene. Even the dating apps were 99% miss since most that I contacted were just using Cebu city as their location but living an hour out in the province. So I made a short first time run up to Angeles on the Cebu to Clark flight and was impresssed by the amount of bars. More bars, more girls. Just more to do vs Cebu city. Eventually made the move up here and found out the downfall of living in a bar area with a ton of girls. The dating app girls were pretty much the dregs you don't want to dig up. Nothing like Manila where you can score jems from a huge population. Now I'm not a big barfine type of guy so I went along with the dating app girls. Saw maybe 8 different girls. Really only repeated with 2 of those. The first girl had absolutely no tits but a great little ass and I got along good with her so I kept her. The second was a bit taller than I like but had an amazing see cup. But I started to not care much for the sex after awhile. It was my own little mini harem. Sounds good until you realize they quit looking for other customers and start asking you for money. I did just dump the taller girl. Well more like she quit chatting me after I yelled at her out for making her own time to come over. The flat chested girl's performance was constantly going down but what made up for it was her very cute 18 why old sister. Sister had a body, perky large be's on a skinny frame. Sister would only do BJ's for 1000 and she too started to lose her performance. I finally had to dump both when I was getting chats 30 times a day asking for money even though I had given them over 3,000 the day before total. My guess is the family was getting their cut of the money and I'm guessing they were the ones texting me asking for gcash and sending numbers I never saw before. Blocked all 3 of them and decided to move on.
You end up spending in a week for these lower class freelance girls what you'd pay two lookers from the bars per week. Decided to do quality over quantity. Took a few gogo girls out of the bars and had some fun times. What's funny is I was in one of the bars on WS and bought a girl a drink that I thought stood out from the rest. Talked with her and got her number. Sent her a few chats asking her to come over before work etc to save me the barfine but she never did. A good month goes by and I sent her another chat to which she responds 'you live in Angeles city?' and I said yes. That changed the dynamic, I was no longer a tourist looking for fun but a possible long term client. Really cute girl but for some reason isn't getting barfines like other girls, maybe the Koreans don't care for her natural looks. Same thing happened with a dating app cutie, she comes over and realizes I live here and I'm easy to get along with. She stopped over the other day and said 'I'm hungry' so I pulled out some pork chops I had thawing and said 'cook them up'. And she stripped down to her underwear and cooked dinner in my apartment. Amazing how you can go from average talent to top tier in a matter of weeks.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2828218]...A good month goes by and I sent her another chat to which she responds 'you live in Angeles city?' and I said yes. That changed the dynamic, I was no longer a tourist looking for fun but a possible long term client. Really cute girl but for some reason isn't getting barfines like other girls, maybe the Koreans don't care for her natural looks. Same thing happened with a dating app cutie, she comes over and realizes I live here and I'm easy to get along with. She stopped over the other day and said 'I'm hungry' so I pulled out some pork chops I had thawing and said 'cook them up'. And she stripped down to her underwear and cooked dinner in my apartment. Amazing how you can go from average talent to top tier in a matter of weeks.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. There is a world of difference in the step up from weekend warrior to resident. Just wait until the hot girls realise you can be called upon at short notice for heavily discounted services when the rent is due. All the talk of K-only flies right out the window. Expect much better service levels than mere mortals as the girls want to stay in your good books for the next time they are broke. Where their money goes I have no idea but the call always comes.
The next step is graduating to bank tellers and junior accounts receivable clerks. There will be a group of them that get passed around the expats in town so they know the deal, are comfortable around foreigners and are much better quality than GoGo girls.
Don't forget to start learning a few few words of Tagalog. That really makes you stand out and opens many more doors.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2828413]Hahaha. There is a world of difference in the step up from weekend warrior to resident. Just wait until the hot girls realise you can be called upon at short notice for heavily discounted services when the rent is due. All the talk of K-only flies right out the window. Expect much better service levels than mere mortals as the girls want to stay in your good books for the next time they are broke. Where their money goes I have no idea but the call always comes.
The next step is graduating to bank tellers and junior accounts receivable clerks. There will be a group of them that get passed around the expats in town so they know the deal, are comfortable around foreigners and are much better quality than GoGo girls.
Don't forget to start learning a few few words of Tagalog. That really makes you stand out and opens many more doors.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Discounted service? I think you will find that the very few angeles girls that are young, slim and attractive have a que of guys willing to pay the full amount plus generous tips for a few moments of such girls time, talk of discounts are a dream only, hell most of these gjrls earn far more than most of the expats pensioners per month and most don't need any help from grand daddy.
Hell the very top angeles girls earn a small fortune each day from sitting and lady drinks without the need to fuck anybody.
Obviously the girls that do not have the youth, body, looks to get much attention and therefore have no money are obviously available in hours of their need, but looking at most who would want them.
Talk of grand daddy getting a date with that cute young bank teller is also wishful thinking, bank tellers are normally university educated and come from families with money already so no need to be sucking grand daddies cock for a few extra peso.
Times have changed in the phills, many girls are getting educated and getting good paying jobs, they want to meet, date, marry young pinoys of their own standing, gone are the days of young attractive girls needing hand outs from elderly westerners.
I'm wanting to take a solo trip to Angeles like Aug 30 to Sept 12. Are there going to be plenty of single guy activities or are the ladies staying home because it's the rainy or low season. So I've heard.
Logic says that the girls still have bills to pay during the rainy season.
I would hate to go through the time and expense and the place is like a ghost town. Last time I was there was around '94-'95 when my ship (USN) pulled into Manila.
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Times have changed in the phills, many girls are getting educated and getting good paying jobs, they want to meet, date, marry young pinoys of their own standing, gone are the days of young attractive girls needing hand outs from elderly westerners.[/QUOTE]I absolutely agree!
Some few experienced frequently used girls get the 1 week millionaires. Others are playing good as drink sluts.
But the young slim girls from the provinces are not coming into the scene anymore. They stay on the home green with their guys, having more fun with them instead sucking dick of 40 or 50 years plus aged hairy western guys.
Those days are over.
[QUOTE=GodSpeed72;2828760]I'm wanting to take a solo trip to Angeles like Aug 30 to Sept 12. Are there going to be plenty of single guy activities or are the ladies staying home because it's the rainy or low season. So I've heard.
Logic says that the girls still have bills to pay during the rainy season.
I would hate to go through the time and expense and the place is like a ghost town. Last time I was there was around '94-'95 when my ship (USN) pulled into Manila.[/QUOTE]Seems we arrived in the phills roughly the same time so I can relate to what you last saw so ill try to answer what's changed in 2023.
Well in all honesty everything has massively changed, where there was once well over 100 bars in angeles now there is a fraction of that amount.
Where there was once 1000's of young 18-20 year old naked girls now there is much less girls and they tend to be older, fatter girls that mainly wear street clothes.
Where there was once 1000's of young slim girls that would all barfine long time now we have girls that don't barfine at all, we have girls that are asian only girls, that is to say they will only talk to, accept lady drinks and fuck with asians only.
Where once westerners were kings in angeles they are now mainly shunned by the very few girls that are younger, slimmer and ok looking, new kings have arrived in town and they are called asians, yes mainly young koreans, chinese, japanese punters that fly in for a vew days and shower the few better looking girls with large money, obviously the girls only have eyes for the new asian kings.
A few posts back I wrote a list of all the main angeles bars, look at the bar names that I included as western owned and oriented bars, yes there is only a few, but for westerners they can have a few beers here and get laid, don't expect any young, attractive, slim girls to be working in these bars, they are mostly older but are quite hands on and are willing to fuck with older westerners, expect to pay 4,000 pesos for mainly short time, some girls still offer long time but obviously these are the less popular ladies in the western bars.
Stay away from the asian oriented bars that I mentioned if one wants to get laid, its just not going to happen here, but please pop in if you want to see the better looking girls angeles has to offer, all are welcomed by management here, the beer is cold, they have excellent professional female dance teams and a nice ambience, maybe pop in with a girl you have barfined from one of the western bars.
Hope that helps you out a bit, most other info one might need is all in the forum but one might have to go back over several pages.
Please let us know if you do make it to angeles with a trip report of what you found after so many years away.
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2828956]Seems we arrived in the phills roughly the same time so I can relate to what you last saw so ill try to answer what's changed in 2023.
Well in all honesty everything has massively changed, where there was once well over 100 bars in angeles now there is a fraction of that amount.
Where there was once 1000's of young 18-20 year old naked girls now there is much less girls and they tend to be older, fatter girls that mainly wear street clothes.
Where there was once 1000's of young slim girls that would all barfine long time now we have girls that don't barfine at all, we have girls that are asian only girls, that is to say they will only talk to, accept lady drinks and fuck with asians only.
Where once westerners were kings in angeles they are now mainly shunned by the very few girls that are younger, slimmer and ok looking, new kings have arrived in town and they are called asians, yes mainly young koreans, chinese, japanese punters that fly in for a vew days and shower the few better looking girls with large money, obviously the girls only have eyes for the new asian kings.
A few posts back I wrote a list of all the main angeles bars, look at the bar names that I included as western owned and oriented bars, yes there is only a few, but for westerners they can have a few beers here and get laid, don't expect any young, attractive, slim girls to be working in these bars, they are mostly older but are quite hands on and are willing to fuck with older westerners, expect to pay 4,000 pesos for mainly short time, some girls still offer long time but obviously these are the less popular ladies in the western bars.[/QUOTE]Hehehehe. Plus girls have told me since the Asian guys typical have smaller dicks much easier on the kitty. We can if necessary do two or three of them a day but one western guy like you (And I'm average) and the kitty takes more of a pounding. We're like everyone else make the money with least stress and effort.
Some guys need to work on their appearance when mongering. When I was in Angeles City last month I noticed a lot of guys looking sloppy in their appearance and disheveled. I don't blame a girl that wants to choose better looking guys that are paying. Some of you need to make some improvements in your lives and with your lifestyle if you want any type of longevity and quality in this game instead of just flopping around in life.
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2829189]Some guys need to work on their appearance when mongering. When I was in Angeles City last month I noticed a lot of guys looking sloppy in their appearance and disheveled. I don't blame a girl that wants to choose better looking guys that are paying. Some of you need to make some improvements in your lives and with your lifestyle if you want any type of longevity and quality in this game instead of just flopping around in life.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Not only in bars either. My last flight over 14 hrs longest of the trip. Flip flops old ratty shorts and tank tops, who travels like that? You can buy a 2 grand ticket but that's the best you can do. God forbid there's a accident, flip flops. Really? Speaking of tank tops. I don't know how many guys I see around the bar areas wearing these. Most are not even clean and look like they were in a wad on the floor before they decided to go out. Unless you are Arnold Schwarzenegger's twin in his prime please stop wearing those in public. You look ridiculous and 99.9% of you do not have the physique to pull that off. No need for a Giorgio Armani suit to cruise bars, but come on some of you look like you just crawled out of bed. Got a buddy there does this sloppy look all the time. Saw him last time in a bar, Lips I think, a beauty I knew was talking to him. Later on she plops down what's up? Oh not much, saw you talking to a buddy, no barfine? Well she said he needed a shower and did you see his clothes I thought he was a homeless man. No dear he's got money, why he dresses like that I do not know. I know some think its just a prostitute in a 3rd world country who gives a shit. They do, believe it or not they are still women and they notice cleanliness and attire much more than we do. Decent shoes, not worn out, clean pressed shorts or slacks with a clean wrinkle free shirt along with a bath. Its not that hard, give it a try I think you'll see the difference.
[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2829189]Some guys need to work on their appearance when mongering. When I was in Angeles City last month I noticed a lot of guys looking sloppy in their appearance and disheveled. I don't blame a girl that wants to choose better looking guys that are paying. Some of you need to make some improvements in your lives and with your lifestyle if you want any type of longevity and quality in this game instead of just flopping around in life.[/QUOTE]Its much easier just to blame others: the Koreans; changing times; girls' attitudes. Many find it truely shocking that pretty & fun girls have options and it's up to us to become the most attractive option. For some girls that's simply being the highest bidder. For many others, not being a slovenly A-hole goes a long way.
I'm often amazed at guys who say that everything and everyone else is the problem, without considering a little introspection.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2829367]Its much easier just to blame others: the Koreans; changing times; girls' attitudes. Many find it truely shocking that pretty & fun girls have options and it's up to us to become the most attractive option. For some girls that's simply being the highest bidder. For many others, not being a slovenly A-hole goes a long way.
I'm often amazed at guys who say that everything and everyone else is the problem, without considering a little introspection.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Copy that, fellas. I try to look nice with pressed Hawaiin shirts, nice shoes, smell good including breath. And treat the girls nice including tip for good performance. I got to beer belly but not too bad. I don't drink much any more as it affects performance. My body count has been declining with age but so far this year had about 25 nice ones between Negros, Cebu, Manila, Angeles, Bangkok and Pattaya. Not bad for 67. Cheers.