Frankfurt

It's a no-brainer really, but let's go through the details:

Massage Parlour:

- Free entrance.
- Line-up: 2- 5 girls (skimpy outfits).
- Age: 25- 45.
- 1hr erotic massage with a nude girl including B2B, mutual touching and HJ (and possibly pussy slides, DATY and COB / Spanish / Between tits): 100 E.
- Upgrade to sex (not always provided): Add 100 E more within same hour, I. E. Ususally 20- 30 mnts of sex which includes CFS. BBBJ / kissing not included if not negotiated.
- Food / Drink: One coke or beer. Mints.
- Facilities: Shower before and after.

Total costs: 200 E.

FKK:

- Entrance: 50- 70 E.
- Line-up: 20- 100 girls (all nude).
- Age: 20- 35.
- 30 mnts professional massage (non-erotic): 30 E. Optional (just skip it).
- 1hr of heavenly sex including BBBJ / DATY / CFS / kissing (probably DFK): 100 E (50 E per half hour). CIM / Anal usually available at an extra cost.
- All you can eat buffet / soft drinks all day long included in the entrance fee (opening hours 10 am- 5 am).
- Facilities: Access to kino, sauna, showers, jacuzzi, bar / meeting area, restaurant, relax area, garden with BBQ, bar and swimming pool/jacuzzi (in summer), Sports TV, wardrobe with lockers / money lockers, private rooms.

Total costs: 150- 200 E.

Your choice.

[QUOTE=Shark16;1809729]It's a no-brainer really, but let's go through the details:

Massage Parlour:

- Free entrance.
- Line-up: 2- 5 girls (skimpy outfits).
- Age: 25- 45.
- 1hr erotic massage with a nude girl including B2B, mutual touching and HJ (and possibly pussy slides, DATY and COB / Spanish / Between tits): 100 E.
- Upgrade to sex (not always provided): Add 100 E more within same hour, I. E. Ususally 20- 30 mnts of sex which includes CFS. BBBJ / kissing not included if not negotiated.
- Food / Drink: One coke or beer. Mints.
- Facilities: Shower before and after.

Total costs: 200 E.

FKK:

- Entrance: 50- 70 E.
- Line-up: 20- 100 girls (all nude).
- Age: 20- 35.
- 30 mnts professional massage (non-erotic): 30 E. Optional (just skip it).
- 1hr of heavenly sex including BBBJ / DATY / CFS / kissing (probably DFK): 100 E (50 E per half hour). CIM / Anal usually available at an extra cost.
- All you can eat buffet / soft drinks all day long included in the entrance fee (opening hours 10 am- 5 am).
- Facilities: Access to kino, sauna, showers, jacuzzi, bar / meeting area, restaurant, relax area, garden with BBQ, bar and swimming pool/jacuzzi (in summer), Sports TV, wardrobe with lockers / money lockers, private rooms.

Total costs: 150- 200 E.

Your choice.[/QUOTE]Sometimes massage can have more than 5 girls, sometimes FKK less than 20, but in general more at the FKK. FKK entrance fee can be less (Dietzenbach, special offers). Maybe FKK girls are on average younger, but it is not as clear-cut as you describe. Sometimes kissing is available at massage parlors at no extra cost, but this is probably rare. Facilities are not always as good as you say at FKKs, but in general they are better. I have never paid for an upgrade at a massage parlour, but have been offered one a couple of times. It has never been that expensive, just EUR 30 or EUR 50.

All in all, though, yes, of course, an FKK is more for your money. Why a massage parlour at all, then? Well, if you have just one hour, and no time to wait, and make an appointment, then it is more effective. Second, the massage is better. Third, you have a full hour with the girl with no looking at the clock.

[QUOTE=SvenFKK;1809811]Sometimes massage can have more than 5 girls, sometimes FKK less than 20, but in general more at the FKK. FKK entrance fee can be less (Dietzenbach, special offers). Maybe FKK girls are on average younger, but it is not as clear-cut as you describe. Sometimes kissing is available at massage parlors at no extra cost, but this is probably rare. Facilities are not always as good as you say at FKKs, but in general they are better. I have never paid for an upgrade at a massage parlour, but have been offered one a couple of times. It has never been that expensive, just EUR 30 or EUR 50.

All in all, though, yes, of course, an FKK is more for your money. Why a massage parlour at all, then? Well, if you have just one hour, and no time to wait, and make an appointment, then it is more effective. Second, the massage is better. Third, you have a full hour with the girl with no looking at the clock.[/QUOTE]Hey Sven,
Yes, I think we agree in most parts. My comparison is simplified of course. I also think it may be influenced on which FKK clubs you visit most. Yours I believe is Dietzenback, while mine are World, Oase, (Sharks). Of course, lots of different experiences right there. There are also exceptions to the rule, like 60+ years old Silvana at Sharks, and just the other day I saw two of these at Palace.

Another way of looking at it is erotic massage vs. Sex. These are two different things / experiences. Just as you can experience good and bad sex, you can experience good and bad massages (it happens).

[QUOTE=Shark16;1809822]Hey Sven,
Yes, I think we agree in most parts. My comparison is simplified of course. I also think it may be influenced on which FKK clubs you visit most. Yours I believe is Dietzenback, while mine are World, Oase, (Sharks). Of course, lots of different experiences right there. There are also exceptions to the rule, like 60+ years old Silvana at Sharks, and just the other day I saw two of these at Palace.

Another way of looking at it is erotic massage vs. Sex. These are two different things / experiences. Just as you can experience good and bad sex, you can experience good and bad massages (it happens).[/QUOTE]Thanks Sven & Shark. Then I prefer FKK.

[QUOTE=Graf61;1809638]Some of the girls are Japanese. They run weekly ads on ladies. De for the club and individual ads for each girl. Some girls in the ads will actually be there. Some may not. There are some who won't be in the ads. The pictures in the ads are in some cases at least a few years old. Of the current ads, the girls I know have used the same pictures for two years at least except Yoko; her pictures are new.

The website is just a collection of some of the girls who have at some time been there -as far as I can tell. It's not current at all.

Of the girls advertised this week, Kiko is Chinese, Yoko and JoJo are Japanese. I've heard this from them. Her ad says Emily is Japanese but for some reason I'm thinking she might be Korean. The other girls might be of the nationality they are advertised as and they might not be. Some facts in the ads are definitely incorrect. Some of these girls have been 18 for three years or more. Height and weight are sometimes wrong.

The four girls I've mentioned here are all lovely girls who do a super job and I'd pay to see any one of them again. Emily is the most fun ever, JoJo is a sweetheart, Yoko is kinda reserved, but she did a fine job and she's got the hardest body of the bunch. Kiko is super tight and a nice girl. The pictures, although dated, are generally real and accurate. The girls are pretty enough but they aren't super models.

I've seen a few other girls there, and they all did a creditable job with one very notable exception. This is where I do most of my business when I'm in Germany now. It's a pleasant place as long as you get one of the three main rooms; they've got one or two overflow rooms that are cramped and unattractive. The main rooms are quite large and quite nicely furnished.

I've got a plane flight December 17 and I plan to visit these girls about as often as I can manage in the week and a half following.[/QUOTE]I did check this place out, and I have to say I was not impressed. I went about 4 pm on a Friday and there was only one girl available supposedly. She was "coco" and she said she was Chinese. I was there already and the I decided to go ahead based on the service levels advertised. She did not kiss enthusiastically. Lots of fake moans. The room was nice but you have to take a shower outside the room. I saw two other girls there and I did not think they were very hot either. Ironically I saw an Asian girl at Oase on Saturday night that I would have loved to shag but I was with another girl. Bottom line is that for me, it was not worth it. YMMV and of course it just depends who you get. I could have waited for another girl to be available I suppose but I didn't want to spend a lot of time hanging around. Reminded me of asian massage parlors in the US. I checked that off my "To do" list in Frankfurt LOL.

I did check out the numerous brothels around the train station where girls basically sit in their rooms and you climb a gazillion stairs to get to them. An elevator to the top would be nice lmaoo. I went into like eight buildings just out of curiosity and I would say that about 10% of the girls could work in an FKK. VERY seedy atmosphere, which you may or may not be into. Worth a tour but I had zero intention of partaking. It is a bit awkward in that they are standing right there and it feels funny just standing there and looking them over. Other guys may not have a problem doing this but I like to really check out girls before making a decision.

[QUOTE=SmokyJack;1810466]I did check out the numerous brothels around the train station where girls basically sit in their rooms and you climb a gazillion stairs to get to them.

It is a bit awkward in that they are standing right there and it feels funny just standing there and looking them over. Other guys may not have a problem doing this but I like to really check out girls before making a decision.[/QUOTE]I sometimes get confused going up and down the different stairs as to which doors I have visited previously. There are a couple of buildings where the stairs crisscross and then you really can go round in circles. On one occasion I came back to a door that I had visited before and a girl recognised me but I pretended I had never seen her before. She got a bit shirty. She probably thought that I was one of those guys who had no intention of choosing a girl but just liked to tour the buildings getting a free gawp at the women. "Don't come back here again" she ordered "or I'll call the police". A little bit harsh and probably an empty threat. Would she really call the police?

I also like to interview the girls about what they offer before deciding but it is a little difficult as often 4 or more of them will be standing outside their doors on a landing and can hear everything you ask one of the girls. This is a big problem if you are after AO as Vito once warned me. The girls that do it may not want the other girls to know. One time I spotted this sexy looking, hard bodied woman with tattoos, fiery dark eyes and stylish, short, spiky hair. I thought she was Italian but she was actually Turkish. She seemed to take a shine to me, grabbed hold of my shirt and pulled me against her.

Then her wandering hands went under my shirt and felt the 1. 4 kg, solid ruthenium metal, double GG interlocking Gucci belt that I was wearing and things suddenly started to get a little wild. She immediately started unbuckling it. Next her hands moved quickly to the buttons of my flies and started working on those. There were 3 other girls standing around watching this public display and I suddenly got an instant boner. But things were moving a little too fast for my liking. I knew that once I had allowed her to get to the stage where she got my dick out and started playing with it then it would be difficult to then tell her that I wasn't interested.

"Wait" I said. I needed to find out what services she offered first. She paused and looked a little puzzled because she had already opened my trousers and was busy fondling my erection through my underpants whilst trying to drag me into the room. "Ficken?" I asked. "Ja" she replied. "Ohne gummi?" I then asked. It took a second or two for her to realize what I had asked her and then all hell broke loose.

"Nein, nein, nein!" she screamed and then turned to her colleagues with a hurt, outraged look on her face. "Kein gummi?. Kein gummi?" as if how could I think of asking her such a thing. A couple of the girls hid their mouths with their hands and giggled nervously as they tried to hide their amusement at what was taking place. I beat a hasty retreat down the steps as she ranted and wailed her shrill voice echoing behind me all the way down the stairs.

Frankfurt is offering such nice clubs; for low budget Treff 188; better FKK Mainhattan; and I never understand why the gentlemen in this forum are talking about the urinated.

Junkie area of the RLD main station; sorry; is this our world? So many times only trouble in these houses? And the customers. Without words.

[QUOTE=SteveGerman;1810934]Frankfurt is offering such nice clubs; for low budget Treff 188; better FKK Mainhattan; and I never understand why the gentlemen in this forum are talking about the urinated.

Junkie area of the RLD main station; sorry; is this our world? So many times only trouble in these houses? And the customers. Without words.[/QUOTE]I agree it is pretty seedy but some people like that. I thought it was worth looking around and reporting back, since I have been to Frankfurt six times without ever going to the Eros Centers. I personally wouldn't partake there but some low budget mongers who want a quickie could do ok. I actually saw a few cute girls so it's not impossible. Let's say you are waiting for a train for an hour. You could easily get a BJ one or two blocks away.

Just my humble opinion.

I was in Frankfurt last week. I went to Oase, I knew it and I like it so much. But I got hotel near station just in the middle of the Sex district.
I think it's creepy, really. Drug addicted people everywhere, so many weird guys and just trans on the road and I saw even rats. I didn't go in the buildings: I don't know what can you find inside, but looking from the street they don't look good.
I know, you can't judge a book from its cover, but I really didn't imagine that in the middle of such a city you could find such a degraded area.

[QUOTE=Arkiloko;1811898]Just my humble opinion.

I was in Frankfurt last week. I went to Oase, I knew it and I like it so much. But I got hotel near station just in the middle of the Sex district.
I think it's creepy, really. Drug addicted people everywhere, so many weird guys and just trans on the road and I saw even rats. I didn't go in the buildings: I don't know what can you find inside, but looking from the street they don't look good.
I know, you can't judge a book from its cover, but I really didn't imagine that in the middle of such a city you could find such a degraded area.[/QUOTE]Next time get a hotel in Friedrichsdorf. Hotel Arkadia is where I usually stay. 3 min walk from the S-bahn stop and very nice. 10 min cab ride to Oase. The area near the main train station in Frankfurt is a dump, like in many cities across the world. It is not the most dirty or dangerous area I have seen in my travels, even for "nice" cities. Maybe you have never been to the US? Try the seedy areas in New York or LA, or (insert city name here).

Mongering comes in all flavors, so I try not to look down on what other people like. I agree that I would never partake in this area but if I had less money, I would be tempted. There were a few good lookers, trust me on this.

When in Frankfurt, I stay at Mnchner Hof, just across the street from the Bahnhof; it's a little noisy on the street side, but otherwise it's fine.

The RLD doesn't bother me in the least. I'm not fit enough anymore to go up and down stairs long enough to hunt out the good stuff and, frankly, it's pretty hit or miss there. Western European girls are usually poor providers if not scam artists and Eastern Europeans with exceptions are indifferent at best. Latinas and especially Asians tend to be better choices. If I had more time and more stamina, I would use the Laufhuser frequently.

There are beautiful, girls in the RLD and there are ugly, fat old broads in the RLD. There are desperate-seeming girls who will probably do anything for 20 Euro. Don't go to the top floor unless you're ready for that.

The RLD's are best visited early afternoon, I would probably not go to the RLD late at night but then I don't go out in my suburban neighborhood late at night.

Most of my business is with smaller, more pleasant brothels these days. It easier, less stressful and on average much more productive of good times. The RLD can't be beat for value if one has the time and energy to hunt out the value and sense enough to give the girls a little extra cash to improve their attitudes. 20 extra Euro sometimes goes a long way in the RLD.

I admit the area is not the best, but I've never felt in any kind of danger. The only thing dangerous is those killer stairs!

I've always found a really nice gem in the RLD. You need to be patient & willing to walk up & down the stairs multiple times to see all the girls available. Also very important is to walk to the top floors as most of the young hot fresh of the pimps car newbies get those rooms. Had some great fun with some hotties willing to do anything for not much money. I wouldn't bother with morning / daytime. Late afternoon / Early evening is the best times to start.

Hi,

I am travelling Frankfurt. Please suggest me some good company with place in budget.

Thanks in advance.

I was in Frankfurt about a month ago and decided to check out the "AO Haus" as some mongers refer to when they discuss the Eros Center. It was early morning on a Sunday so there were not many girls. After hiking up the stairs and being disappointed, I saw a spinner Turkish girl open her door directly in front of the the first floor entrance. Her face wasn't too impressive, but her body was right, and she was OK with a BBFS session. I think she asked me to not cum inside her. 50 Euros less and 15 minutes later I walked out a happy customer. I took a city bus tour and came back a couple hours later. Saw a really hot blonde in her doorstep, asked for BBFS but she declined. Went up a flight of stairs and saw a cute Bulgarian spinner which agreed to BBFS CIP for 70 Euro. I love Germany! Hope to visit again soon.

[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;1813645] The only thing dangerous is those killer stairs![/QUOTE]LOL, I see that some things haven't changed a bit in the past 25 years.