Angeles City

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2830674]Totally agree. Have been with well over 100 AC girls and have never smelled an odor. In contrast, I have been with many successful LA white girls who have had an odor. This doesn't mean they 'have something'. But yes it is an indication of bacteria. Anecdotally this tells me that the AC girls probably take a weekly antibiotic.[/QUOTE]If you've been with 100 AC girls and never smelled bad pussy, I would say your sniffer is suspect. Absolutely worse poon I've EVER encountered was in PI. It's all about cleanliness and 100 out of 100 are stats unbelievable.

Maybe it's long Covid 😂.

[QUOTE=MaximusV;2830604]It's either you don't know what an actual good pussy smells like or there is a serious problem with your nose. I have been mongering in PH for 12+ years. Normal office workers, bank tellers, call center girls women who have jobs outside of the bar industry for the most part I would say you have a 70% chance of getting a decent, good smelling vagina.

Bar girls anywhere in the PH's is a completely different story and is the exact opposite of what I mention above. Going off my experience's and sample size from, Manila, Angeles, Cebu, Davao you have a 70% chance of getting a smelly vagina when taking a bar girl. Now before we get ahead of ourselves. Lets be very clear. There are different degrees of stench.

Level 1 - Code Red. Smells like,3 week old hot rotten fish, absolute putrid, completely disgustingly. Depending on how long my trip is there is usually just one Level 1 stinker per trip.

Level 2 - This type of smell is a strong fish smell that regardless of how many times she goes in the shower to use her feminine wash it doesn't go away. You get a bunch of these level 2 stinkers every trip.

Level 3 - The fish scent is lighter here but its definitely still there, throw in a very good wash (scrubbing and rinsing) and you can almost not smell it for an hour or two, roughly 40%-50% of the girls fall into this Level 3 category. I can somewhat tolerate these vaginas buy breathing out of my mouth when the smell comes back but I would never ever think of putting my tongue anywhere near it!

Level 4 - This category there is no real fish scent, its mainly a sweaty acidic smell, these vaginas are very nice, great to enjoy, when you find one its almost like finding a unicorn- these are very hard to find so when I find one I have to keep for a couple days because you never know when you will find another.

Level 5 - Congratulations! - You have found your Unicorn. Absolutely zero fish scent. Absolutely zero musty scent. This is the holy grail. The smell is hard to describe but natural, clean and pure comes to mind. This is the only smell where I might go down south to show gratitude by licking the honey pot for being so unique. What I have done when I have found a level 5 is basically keep her for the rest of my trip, regardless of cost, I can't let her go until my trip is over. This is very very rare in the bar scene, almost never happens.[/QUOTE]This reminds me of a night long ago. I took a bar girl back to my hotel on MacArthur Blvd and we immediately took a swim in the hotel pool. After a while we went up to the room and showered together where I gave her naughty bits a good scrub. When we got to the bed and she was on her back, I started on her tits, slowly working my way down. At her belly button I was whisked away to the Sam Shing Hui market in Hong Kong. Needless to say, I went no further. I forced my cock to do the work my nose and tongue were unwilling to perform.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2830674]Totally agree. Have been with well over 100 AC girls and have never smelled an odor. In contrast, I have been with many successful LA white girls who have had an odor. This doesn't mean they 'have something'. But yes it is an indication of bacteria. Anecdotally this tells me that the AC girls probably take a weekly antibiotic.[/QUOTE]I agree. In all my younger days and until I went to Asia White girls smell, at least most I had in High School and college and even there after. My assumption was that's just the way it is, not knock a buzzard off a garbage truck smell but they were all fishy to a degree. I went to Asia and it was first thing I noticed, damn these pussies have no smell. I'd get a bad one occasionally.

But for the most part odor free. I think its something in white girls diet or their genetics. Anyway I've been done with white girls long ago but yes looking back I do remember those days.

In my experience, 200 women and counting, there is a direct correlation between the facilities and type of mongering and clean poo tang. Escorts are the cleanest, since they shower at your hotel and then after and do less clients. Bar girls like hk where they don't shower after and run back down are the worse. Termas are great because they shower before and after too. Never been to asia, but it sounds like the bar girls are up and down with few showers. Reason I don't do villa mimosa or el Centro. Filthy rooms and just a sink in some places. Nasty. I'll pass.

[QUOTE=TnJed;2830874]If you've been with 100 AC girls and never smelled bad pussy, I would say your sniffer is suspect. Absolutely worse poon I've EVER encountered was in PI. It's all about cleanliness and 100 out of 100 are stats unbelievable.

Maybe it's long Covid 😂.[/QUOTE]He is fishing in a better pool than the others. He posted what his experience is as like mine. Unless you or the others were in the same room at the same time lurking and sniffing behind the curtains then you really don't have anything to say.

I was there this past week with 10 girls. None smelled bad. A couple of 18 and 19 yo had no smell at all.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2830897]I agree. In all my younger days and until I went to Asia White girls smell, at least most I had in High School and college and even there after. My assumption was that's just the way it is, not knock a buzzard off a garbage truck smell but they were all fishy to a degree. I went to Asia and it was first thing I noticed, damn these pussies have no smell. I'd get a bad one occasionally.

But for the most part odor free. I think its something in white girls diet or their genetics. Anyway I've been done with white girls long ago but yes looking back I do remember those days.[/QUOTE]You do realise that there is roughly 170 million females in the usa, are you trying to say that due to 170 million american girls diets their pussies stink, the mind boggles at some claims it really does.

Trying to claim that asian pussies on the whole smell less is just not true, you do realise that anything like menstrual cycle, normal discharge, bacterial vaginosis, Trichomoniasis can and does occur regularly in girls pussies the world over causing a fishy smell including of course asian pussies.

But What we are discussing here is not slight fishy smells but 10 week old rotten fish smell that can't be scrubbed away regardless of how much washing one does on a girls pussy.

These pussies are usually desease pussies to smell that bad, how does a girl get a desease pussy well by letting thousands of paying strangers that have previously had sex with thousands of other possibly desease prostitutes the world over ejaculate in their pussies normally several times per day by multiple guys.

It does not take a rocket scientist to work out the much higher risks of pussy desease and therefore possible foul smells amongst the angeles girls that are selling their pussy and having unprotected sex with multiple punters, looking at the facts then to suggest asian pros are imune to desese and therefore smelly pussy is far from true IMHO.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2831020]He is fishing in a better pool than the others. He posted what his experience is as like mine. Unless you or the others were in the same room at the same time lurking and sniffing behind the curtains then you really don't have anything to say.

I was there this past week with 10 girls. None smelled bad. A couple of 18 and 19 yo had no smell at all.[/QUOTE]How do you know he was fishing in a better pool if you were not in the same room lurking and sniffing behind the curtains?

Morale of the story be careful of what you say before you get caught out with your own words.

Because I said so. And also because I said I've smelled plenty of odor, just not in AC. There is nothing wrong with sharing experiences, and we all understand that this is ANECDOTAL. Nobody's doing a peer reviewed study on this, so it's just conversation that may be of interest.

I always shower with the girl, and that will certainly wash away some of the funk (we have it too BTW), but if she has a real infection, that's not going to cut it. The weekly health checks are designed to find exactly that. Hell, they could test positive for the clap every week, take the antibiotic, and be back in the game in a few days for all we know.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2831095]How do you know he was fishing in a better pool if you were not in the same room lurking and sniffing behind the curtains?

Morale of the story be careful of what you say before you get caught out with your own words.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2831020]He is fishing in a better pool than the others....[/QUOTE]Like most, I've had fresh and stale pussy. I will say though that the sweetest smelling and tasting was from the Philippines: a beautiful promo dancer from ICON Cebu. I don't think she was banging 10 guys a day off the streets but was certainly open to overtime after work. I'd put her in the upper end of the hooker scale. Her pussy smelt and tasted devine.

That pussy is definitely one of the few that is burned in to my memory for all the right reasons.

Enjoy. G.

P.S. Should I meet her again, I'll be sure to invite everyone over so that we can get a weighted average rating. 😜.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2153551]...At 10:59 pm I received a message saying that she was on her way and she suggested coming straight to the room. Obviously, I was fine with that. A couple of minutes later she arrived. Holy Shit!! I received some profile pics earlier but they were not fair warning. In the flesh, she was incredible: max 5'0", maybe 75 lb and stacked with DDs. She was standing there in leggings and a sports bra, dripping with sweat, having come straight from 4 hours of dance rehearsals. I was already harder than Chinese Calculus. She requested a shower where I valiantly helped her out of her clothes and tongue bathed every crevice. In bed those tits made great play pads and we had several sessions. All positions were catered for and she had a mouse's ear that tasted heavenly. . . .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JbLife;2823020]So, I'm late 30's guy, not tall or great looking in my own mind to western standards. Got a bit of a gut (but working on it). First time I went to AC was 2012 or so. Probably went back 20 times since then. Alot of that was helped by loving in a East Asian country for work so no 20+ hour flying time to get there.

I think I have barfined a single girl in all those trips. I personally can't stand the bars, not even in the US or east Asia. I just don't particularly like being out in big clubs or places like that.

Anyway I've always had a good time and it really all goes back to the first trip I took. Before I left I was on DIA chatting to women in the area.

I found one, she was cute enough about 24-25 at the time great in bed, really knew how to throw it back. Next trip she introduced me to her sister. Another great time. Let me fast forward to the this year 2023. Saw the second sister again and have been chatting with her since I got back in January. Come next February I am going to complete the set in the time between 2012 and 2023 I got with 4 of 6 sister and next year I will see little sisters 5 and 6 in this family. A 21 yea old with 1 baby and a 23 year old with no kids. Plus the second sister who I keep telling is my Mamasan is going to find some more girls in the barangay who want to earn 2 k pesos, a meal and some time in an Air conditioned room.

I know its 2023 now and a long time has passed but, these girls are very trusting, if you find a girl and ask about her friends or if she has family she will probably hook you up. Plus now you have Tinder. Once you get the hard-core pros out of the way it's like shooting fish in a barrel.[/QUOTE]If you put on your tinder profile in AC or Manilla." 18 to 25 no hookers no kids natural busty girls nice personality " how many hits would you realistically get. Let the ad weed out the hardcore pros and everything else I don't like.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2831155]Like most, I've had fresh and stale pussy. I will say though that the sweetest smelling and tasting was from the Philippines: a beautiful promo dancer from ICON Cebu. I don't think she was banging 10 guys a day off the streets but was certainly open to overtime after work. I'd put her in the upper end of the hooker scale. Her pussy smelt and tasted devine.

That pussy is definitely one of the few that is burned in to my memory for all the right reasons.

Enjoy. G.

P.S. Should I meet her again, I'll be sure to invite everyone over so that we can get a weighted average rating..[/QUOTE]Sounds like you found my unicorn. Skinny girl with natural DDs. When a girl has that she is a 8 and goes to 9 or 10 if she is pretty too. Keep her number. If I ever get to PI I will hit you up for it. LOL.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2831213]If you put on your tinder profile in AC or Manilla." 18 to 25 no hookers no kids natural busty girls nice personality " how many hits would you realistically get. Let the ad weed out the hardcore pros and everything else I don't like.[/QUOTE]Any reasonably attractive girls gets 100's of messages a day. Stunners get 1000's. That's no exaggeration. Hence, they are very unlikely to be the ones sending the first message. 99.99% of the time they will be responding to messages etc not sending them.

The only unsolicited messages I've ever received have been from the desperate and dateless, generally purely commercial girls. Certainly not attractive, employed, civilian girls.

Its not zero, but very few guys and girls read profiles as they are mostly meaningless, say the same thing as everyone else and / or only there as a smoke screen for friends and family that may see them. I've had countless pure as snow profiles offer to come around in 15 minutes to blow my mind for the right price.

In short, you contact girls that you find attractive and present whatever proposal suits you regardless of if it's sinful or clean.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2831214]Sounds like you found my unicorn. Skinny girl with natural DDs. When a girl has that she is a 8 and goes to 9 or 10 if she is pretty too. Keep her number. If I ever get to PI I will hit you up for it. LOL.[/QUOTE]Sure but, without getting too far off thread, have you been to Davao? See the pics below. 😍.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2148861]I came across this flat chested lass in Davao.

Swore that she was the smallest of her sisters.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2831263]Any reasonably attractive girls gets 100's of messages a day. Stunners get 1000's. That's no exaggeration. Hence, they are very unlikely to be the ones sending the first message. 99.99% of the time they will be responding to messages etc not sending them.

The only unsolicited messages I've ever received have been from the desperate and dateless, generally purely commercial girls. Certainly not attractive, employed, civilian girls.

Its not zero, but very few guys and girls read profiles as they are mostly meaningless, say the same thing as everyone else and / or only there as a smoke screen for friends and family that may see them. I've had countless pure as snow profiles offer to come around in 15 minutes to blow my mind for the right price.

In short, you contact girls that you find attractive and present whatever proposal suits you regardless of if it's sinful or clean.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Instead of having to compete with 1000's of online profiles, do you think going to all the malls is better, since they speak English. The main reason I want to go to PI is it would be the first mongering country where the regular girls speak English. Usually I have to use my horrible Spanish or horrible Portuguese to hit on regular girls, and it's so hard. Would you say the regular girls at the malls and servers at restaurants are hotter than the hookers at the bars and massage places, or do most hot ones go into hooking.

There seems to be mixed reports on this forum. Maybe it's due to standards, maybe it's for other reasons. No one can really know until they experience it for themselves.

Here are my observations on Angeles.

There are fewer bars than pre-COVID.

The percentage of them owned or run by Koreans is higher than pre-COVID. This is due to them buying some out and also due to some non-Korean owned ones not reopening. All bars were welcoming. Girls act differently in different bars. Some are more hands-on and initiate drinks / contact. Others wait for call downs and for you to approach them. In some bars, girls won't take any notice at all until you initiate contact. Don't always take this as being ignored. Cherry girls are fakes / scams aimed at the Asian market. Whether Asian punters know this or not, I'm unsure. They might just enjoy the illusion.

The overall quality of girls is about the same as 2016-2019, but there are fewer of them to go around. There are some pretty girls, but nothing amazing that I've seen in bars. The best I've seen is probably around a 7 face with a 9 body. There are some Korean-only girls, but the percentage isn't that high. They are sometimes the best-looking girls in the bar, but not always. Even so, they are nothing special as they are still bar girls. Any genuinely hot girls don't need to be working in the bar anymore, so you shouldn't expect to be amazed by anyone's beauty. It is down to personal taste, but K-focused girls seem to be a certain style rather than actually 'better looking'. Underneath, they are almost the same. If you like this style too, then you have to try to compete with the Koreans. You can find these girls outside the bars, but on their shift, it's harder since they are discouraged by the bar owners from going with a Westerner over a Korean. This is actually more specific with Koreans than Asians. When I was in a bar with 2 other Asians who turned out to be Chinese, they were far more open and weren't bothered by the Chinese. I think Korean bar owners actually dislike them, so that discouragement doesn't exist. Although the girls might have their own views on who's going to spend more and be an easier night.

In Angeles KTV / JTV, the quality is only a bit higher overall, but they are a different style of girl. Taller, lighter. So their Asian value is higher. Again, this is down to personal taste, but you might not find them prettier or hotter. If you are open to darker-skinned girls, you'll find better bodies and possibly a face in the bars. You can meet some of them out of their shift, but a lot of them are actually platonic and already have Filipino boyfriends. Those ones are there for salaries only. For the ones who do take p4 p / relationships, if you're within a 20-year age range, it will make things a lot easier for you.

Freelancer scene:

Clubs. Mega, Hammer, Eclipse.

Online:

For higher quality girls. Tinder, Tantan.

Easy p4 p. Pinalove (not a huge amount of girls).

Random. DIA, Badoo, any others.

There are various clubs / bars scattered around the city that locals hang out too. They're popping up all the time. I spent 1 night at Shinma in Balibago. It was 90% Filipinos, some Koreans and me and 2 others were the only Westerners. I already had company when I went there; however, the other Westerner was young and decent-looking, and he was picking up some girls.

I don't think this is a p4 p crowd, but with discretion and approach, I'm sure something can be found. When going to clubs with many Filipinos, make sure the girls are there alone. Don't piss off any locals, it can and will turn nasty.

Longer term / Non-p4 p. The above apps. Takes more effort. You probably need more time. Although if you're doing this, there are better places in the Philippines to do it.

Costs. Bars: 3-5 k short time, 4-6 k long time. Some don't do LT.

- KTV if they do it outside shift 5 k + whatever the arrangement.

- Freelance 2-6 k depending on quality.

Is this place worth visiting? Well, it depends on where you are and your budget. If you're in Asia already, it's okay for 3-5 days. If you have a longer holiday planned, there are better places to do it in Asia and even the Philippines.

If you're a long, expensive flight away, then some research in more local areas might be worth it instead with everything added up.

Even the best-looking p4 p Filipinas in AC don't compare to Latinas, Eastern Europeans, or even other Asians like Thais. English speaking is usually their only plus point.

If the Philippines is a must, and you like it for other reasons but still want p4 p, then you can find far better options in Manila. If you can tap in to non pro market if you're rich or young or all of them then Filipinas can still be some of the best in my opinion.

Overall, AC for girl quality is average. If you love to drink and want an abundance of average girls to bareback, then you will enjoy AC. If you are old enough to find the hardened bar girls who are 25-35 years old 'young', then you will enjoy AC.

If you like 18-21, you will be relying on good timing, luck, and your wallet. If you have a long time (months), you will find plenty of whatever you're looking for.

None of this is set in stone. It's based on my observations of being here for the last 6 months. I work online, and I'm 32. Cebu is my next destination, and from what I've heard, p4 p in bars will be less available but more of other opportunities.

Good luck to anyone visiting.