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[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1617862]I recently met a working girl from Uzbekistan in Bangkok.

(. . .)

She said that she had to pay her pimp 4000 USA Dollars in order to buy her freedom (4000 USA Dollars is like approximately 120000 Thai Baht; I don't know why they use USA Dollars as their currency).

Then, the pimp would provide her a one-way flight ticket and allow her to go back home. She would be free.

She wanted me to give her 120000 Thai Baht to help her gain her freedom.

(. . .)

In sum, I refused, and I didn't call or meet her again.

What do you guys think about it? Did I make the right decision?[/QUOTE]Her story may very well be true. It has been reported before that these women are "employed" by a gang of pimps and are not entirely free to go where they want unless they pay back the pimp's investment in them. Age old story, found everywhere in the world, but unfortunately true too many times. On the other hand, it could be the "Russian" equivalent of the Isaan bargirl's "sick buffalo" or "terminally ill grandmother" ploy.

4000 USD however seem a rather low amount. As you said yourself, it is an amount she should be able to pay herself within a reasonable time. That's why I think it is a scam. The real amount, if there is one, is likely to be much much higher. But no monger, even when deeeply in love with her, will pay such an amount. So, she quotes a more reasonable amount and thus has more chance to find a love-sick client to cough up that amount. And of course once paid that will be the last he sees or hears of her.

In short you did well by refusing. Now to fully cure yourself of her, go and f*ck some Thai-girls.

[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1617862]I recently met a working girl from Uzbekistan in Bangkok.

She charged approximately 3000 Thai Baht for ST or 7000 Thai Baht for LT.

After I took her for LT for few times, she started to tell me how sad and pathetic her life was (something like she's a single Mom with a kid, her husband left them, etc). She said that she had to pay her pimp 4000 USA Dollars in order to buy her freedom (4000 USA Dollars is like approximately 120000 Thai Baht; I don't know why they use USA Dollars as their currency).

Then, the pimp would provide her a one-way flight ticket and allow her to go back home. She would be free.

She wanted me to give her 120000 Thai Baht to help her gain her freedom.

She also told me that I could go to Uzbekistan with her. She would be happy to take me to her home.

In some time, those remarks really made me fall in love with her.

I guess some part of her story may be true. (The single Mom part, because she showed me many photos of her really young kid and her bastard husband who left his wife&kid for another woman.).

However, some part of her story may be over-exaggerated and made-up. (4000 USA Dollars /120000 Thai Baht to pay off her pimp and buy her freedom part.).

If she's so desperate to pay off 4000 USA Dollars /120000 Thai Baht to her pimp in order to buy her own freedom, she should be living a frugal life and saving every Thai Baht she earned. However, when I was with her, I observed that she was actually living a very comfortable and easy life. She spent her money on lots of unnecessary and useless stuff, and she even gave generous tips to the waitresses when we went to a restaurant together.

She didn't look like she was trying hard to save money in order to pay off her pimp and buy her freedom.

That's why I don't fully believe her story, and refused to help her in the end.

Besides, I've also heard about mongers who fall in love with the foreign working girls. The girls left without a trace, after taking a large amount of money from the mongers.

I always remind myself not to make that kind of mistake.

In sum, I refused, and I didn't call or meet her again.

What do you guys think about it? Did I make the right decision?[/QUOTE]If she was referring to the balance due to the pimp then the $4,000 may be true.

I can remember about 10 years ago, I met a Russian girl in the Middle East that needed $5000 to buy her way out. At least she thought it was $5000. She asked me to talk to the man in charge. The man had a very frank discussion with me, he said we bring them over here and expect to make more than transportation cost and reimbursements, we need to make a profit. After some more discussion I pressed him for a price. He paused for a while and then mentioned loss of income for the balance of the "contract" period and said $50,000 would cover it.

Your girl might think $4000 is the reimbursement cost for transportation to get out and hasn't figured out there is a "loss of income" penalty!

The girl I knew threw money around like it was nothing too. At that time ST was $50 for 30 minutes and I think she was on a 50/50 split. She made some decent money and could have saved the 5 k in a few months.

She may have been telling you the truth as she knew it. But she didn't factor in the contract period. Either way you probably would never have gotten her out for 4 k.

That's a no-brainer. Why anyone would fall for a working girl is beyond me. I am certain you can find plenty of smoking hottt single Uzb ladies over in her country. If that's what you are looking for, go there and spend some time. I bet you will fall for more than one.

[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1617862]I recently met a working girl from Uzbekistan in Bangkok.
She charged approximately 3000 Thai Baht for ST or 7000 Thai Baht for LT.......
What do you guys think about it? Did I make the right decision?[/QUOTE]

Hi all,

As I read about does all the MP (oily or soapy) close by midnight? Because I have a over night layover in BK, I will arrive BK around midnight, what's the other option beside barfine a girl to hotel.

Thanks very much.

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What do you guys think about it? Did I make the right decision?[/QUOTE]YES! I lived and worked a few years in RF and UA, and know, these girls are the cream of the top, and I also had a long lasting affair with a semi-pro, telling me a few "business-"stories. In short words, 4 k was far too cheap, in case her story was true. So she simply wanted to rip you off.

However: Quite a few American guys, looking in RF and UA for their future wifes, lost much more than 4 k.

[QUOTE=TesterTester;1617802]Can anyone recommend clubs in Bangkok, Phuket or Pattaya with Russian dancers? I can't find references to any in the Thailand forums.[/QUOTE]It is not that difficult to find a Russian in BKK. Just go and attend few adult performance shows and you will find Russian doing few acts in the end. You can ask the bouncer for their nuber for a fee. Most likely they will even fix ST or LT with them. I have done that two years ago but not cheap though.

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In short you did well by refusing. Now to fully cure yourself of her, go and f*ck some Thai-girls.[/QUOTE]Well said. Doesn't really matter if girl told some truth or not. Believe nothing of what you hear and only 50% of what you see or experience.

[QUOTE=Mushiboshi;1618025]Hi all,

As I read about does all the MP (oily or soapy) close by midnight? Because I have a over night layover in BK, I will arrive BK around midnight, what's the other option beside barfine a girl to hotel.

Thanks very much.[/QUOTE]Its pretty obvious there are street walkers, clubs, discos, etc.

Last night was at Bangkok Beat till close about 2 am. Several girls there for pick up and LBs. Could not watch one guy tongue kissing a Ladyboy.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1617924]I'm kind of the opposite. I much prefer cooler weather. Was in Melbourne, OZ in July. 6 see in the mornings and 16 or so in the afternoon. About perfect for me. If a place never made it above 70 F during the day and cooled off into the high 40's in the evenings, I would be in heaven. Humidity ideally would be about 35-40%. Spent most of my life in TX with horrid 5 month summers. Guess that is why I like the cold. Thailand would be perfect if we had mountains and skiing in the North. Eventually Burma will.[/QUOTE]Today Bangkok actually has clear blue skies and few clouds and so is very hot like it used to be 20 years back. This is not that common these days in my experience. Just the odd day here and there.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1617189]It all depends on what is your main focus. If you want to stretch your budget as much as possible and your focus is on mongering, then follow your friends' advice. If however, you want to experience other aspects of Thailand (culture, history, shopping, .) as well, and you don't mind paying somewhat higher prices for your fun, then 6 days in Bangkok would be better. There is more than enough action in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Plan is to experience it all, night life, mongering, shopping, culture etc.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1616664]Why decide now? Different people have different likes. Why not land BKK, have a look a couple of days, then go to Pattaya. Then depending if you like Pattaya, stay long, or if not, come back to Bangkok in a hurry.

In Thailand, plans should never be set in concrete. Keep your options open. Learn to reduce planning and see what happens. I was going to go up country with an ex-GF on Saturday or Sunday, but things have changed. Lucky I did not try to book well ahead.

I haven't been to Pattaya for about 20 years! Others tell me its very cheap, but girls tend to be of lower quality than what can be found in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]That's what I thought initially to get the feel of the area and go with the flow, but the hassle of checking in and out of hotels and back and forth from BKK to Pattaya is painful.

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1616635]You don't seem to have RTFF'd more than a couple of pages. May be a better place to start on what's available in BKK would be the Links to Reports of Distinction section, if trawling through the back pages is too much of an effort, it will give you a fair idea that BKK has so much to offer in terms of better and assured quality and service albeit at a higher price than Pattaya. The advantage with Pattaya is that it is more of a holiday destination and unlike the big city puts you in a zen mode to monger. Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Still lots of reading up for me to do.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1616634]There are as many opinions on the never ending BKK vs Pattaya debate as there are punters, but anyone who suggests there is not much action in BKK doesn't know what they are taking about. Pattaya is mostly about Go Go's, FL's, and small bars. The town has a crazy relaxed resort feel. BKK is about Go Go's, massage parlors, FL's and night clubs. The city has a distinct modern Thai cosmopolitan cultural feel. There is no telling which destination will be more to you liking before you go and experience them both so your original plan is pretty good. The important thing is no matter how you slice it, 4/6, 6/4, or 5/5; you are going to have a great time. So don't waste your time on over thinking your schedule. I suggest you spend your time in a more productive way by carefully reading the forums going back a year or so. Take notes and write down the establishments that consistently receive high marks from respected ISG'ers. In the Pat forum you will read a lot about Sensations, Baccara, Airport, & Happy Go Go's on Walking Street; LK Metro; Beach Road; & the many small bars on Soi Six. In the BKK forums you will read a lot about Baccara, Crazy House, Suzi Wong Go Go's on Cowboy; Rainbow 4 Go Go in Nana; Nataree, Amsterdam, Lord, & La Belle Soapies; Mango, Cherry, Snow White, EZ, & Bamboo oilies; & Climax on Soi 11. Ignore the extreme negative posts.

I favor BKK over Pattaya because I prefer the big city over the resort town. But that is just my opinion. Actually I dig both places a lot. They seem to compliment each other. So do your homework, then go there, and decide which place you like best. They are both amazing.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your tip.

So the plan is to to Pattaya initially followed by BKK, I'm a city person as well and this is my first trip. After I get to know the places I will decide effectively for future.

Thank you all for your valuable input, report will be posted in about a month's time from now.

Been there done that. You did the right thing.

Although you could have been still seeing her and tell her your sessions with her will add to her contribution.

[QUOTE=SoloTraveler;1617862]I recently met a working girl from Uzbekistan in Bangkok.

She charged approximately 3000 Thai Baht for ST or 7000 Thai Baht for LT.

After I took her for LT for few times, she started to tell me how sad and pathetic her life was (something like she's a single Mom with a kid, her husband left them, etc). She said that she had to pay her pimp 4000 USA Dollars in order to buy her freedom (4000 USA Dollars is like approximately 120000 Thai Baht; I don't know why they use USA Dollars as their currency).

Then, the pimp would provide her a one-way flight ticket and allow her to go back home. She would be free.

She wanted me to give her 120000 Thai Baht to help her gain her freedom...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1618236]Today Bangkok actually has clear blue skies and few clouds and so is very hot like it used to be 20 years back. This is not that common these days in my experience. Just the odd day here and there.[/QUOTE]If you were here in March, April, and May you would not say the same thing. The last three hot seasons have been very hot.

[QUOTE=Mushiboshi;1618025]Hi all,

As I read about does all the MP (oily or soapy) close by midnight? Because I have a over night layover in BK, I will arrive BK around midnight, what's the other option beside barfine a girl to hotel.

Thanks very much.[/QUOTE]You can try Sabai Sabai a 24 hr massage parlor.

[URL]http://sabaisabaimassages.com/index.php/sabai-sabai-massage[/URL]

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1618376]If you were here in March, April, and May you would not say the same thing. The last three hot seasons have been very hot.[/QUOTE]I have been here not for entire hot season. 2 years ago was exceptionally cool a couple of weeks before Songkran. I always skip Songkran itself.

I have noticed the Bangkok weather is not near as hot as 20 years ago, less direct sunshine. There are exception days and periods.

I am also more used to the heat and don't stay outside for long periods. Who would?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1618421]I have been here not for entire hot season. 2 years ago was exceptionally cool a couple of weeks before Songkran. I always skip Songkran itself.

I have noticed the Bangkok weather is not near as hot as 20 years ago, less direct sunshine. There are exception days and periods.

I am also more used to the heat and don't stay outside for long periods. Who would?[/QUOTE]Smart, as it can be brutal. Being from TX I just hate the heat. My observation is that the hot seasons are hotter than when I moved here 15 years ago, but rainy seasons are milder (which is nice). Last cool season was brilliant. Best I have experienced. Even a bit chilled riding the motorbike some nights. However, the three cool seasons before were non-existent. But if we had San Diego weather here there would be twice as many people.