Sosua Reports

Wrx2005 - I totally understand what your saying I just have high expectations when I am travelling. Your saying there are times that you just miss out on top talent and might be chosen. I hear you, but when I scan the room of Lovera Bar or Eurphoria the talent level does not compare to classico and I want what I want and I can pick what makes me happy. Never going to settle when I know what is out there. Oldkool I am happy that you are happy with the talent level in sosua. I mean that. I just have high standards for me and just will not be happy if I do not do me. Again, does not change the fact that I love staying in the higher end properties of sosua, but talent does not match my expectations. Everyone has to be happy with their decisions and expectations. I just say what I think, feel and see.

A haitiana I know needs some cash to resolve a family issue in Haiti in four weeks time. She is 28, a semi-pro, attractive, slim side of average, clean, honest, and a cheerful companion in public or in private. I have known her for eight years and can recommend her. She has an evening job so is only available for the next three Wednesday nights (28 Feb, 7 Mar or 14 Mar). She speaks good Spanish and a little French and English. (Her native tongue is of course Haitian Kreyol, but I guess any member who can speak that needs no help hooking up with haitianas).

She could be with you from 5 pm to 10 am next morning (unlimited pops) and wants 4000 pesos for those 17 hours plus return transport from Puerto Plata. Or would stay with you in Puerto Plata at your place or at Mountain View Hotel. She would also expect a cheap evening meal and breakfast.

I feel a bit awkward "advertising" her here but she asked me to help and I keep reading about guys having bad experiences in Sosua or guys who want to try a haitiana but are deterred from doing so by the hard-core cliques in Sosua. You will have no problems with her trying to up the price or wanting to leave early. She has never done drugs or smoked or hooked in Sosua, and she drinks little alcohol. No tattoos or piercings and knows how to dress so as not to embarrass you in public or where you live.

If interested, PM me with your email address. Best would be you come to Puerto Plata at 4 pm (cost you 160 pesos return from Sosua) and we all three have a drink on the Malecon (very pleasant now the weather is improving) to see if you and she hit it off. If either of you do not fancy it, then no harm, no foul, and you could be back in Sosua in time for dinner (unless you fancy sampling Puerto Plata at night).

I do not have WhatsApp now but expect to within a few days.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2144540]I reread some portions of Sammons trip report for Sosua. I never did get the full understanding of what he was looking for as far as quality of chicas was concerned? In one part he mentions that he did encounter a few women that he felt were attractive enough to approach and hire. Seems though, most of them were not interested in Long Time only Short Time. Which could mean, him getting GFE was unlikely. There may be other variables leading up to that assessment. But could that be one example of what he is including in his assessment of quality of chicas going down? In addition, of the women he was considering, he also got prices he was not willing to pay. Taking that into consideration, maybe the real issue is, the supply and demand curve was not in his favor. It seems there were enough attractive women he approached that would fit into his vacation schedule. But there were no meeting of the minds.

In other words, if a guy comes to Sosua and demonstrates to providers that he has a spending budget he won't budge from, is focused on a particular service the providers he approaches are NOT interested in (LT, GFE or TLN) , you can't readily blame that on quality is lacking. Somewhere, somebody may get his price as well as LT, TLN or GFE service because his approach and/or the chicas assessment of the monger may differ from their assessment of some other guy.
[/QUOTE]In Mongerworld we try to get best looking, best providers who rock our world, best service in and out of bed in exchange for best deal money wise. This is why we travel all over the worlds sex destinations. If we are ready to pay any amount we need not travel. All kinds of beautiful girls are available right here in USA.

In this case Dominican Republic especially Sosua used to be a destination where over the years I had great fun with good looking women who gave good service cheap. Not anymore. Remember we do not go there for dating. We are there to get girls by paying money. Not any amount of money. It is a business deal. We try to get the best price. There is no need to ' Meeting of minds ' like you put it. She is not your date. Moment your back is turned she is up for sale again.

Quality of the girls has gone down quite a bit. No more country girls coming to Sosua to make money from foreigners as it used to be because of police crackdowns and closing of some bars etc. All I saw over 4 nights is mostly ugly girls with very few passable girls. Only a couple or so good looking. What I do is negotiate prices just to get the feel. Just because I ask the price it does not mean I want to take that girl. If we let girls dictate the price, service, time we are screwed. We need to let them know we are the buyers who dictate.

Freewheeling mongers has spoiled many destinations by acting like weekend millionaires.

[QUOTE=Revere;2144559]Wrx2005 - I totally understand what your saying I just have high expectations when I am travelling. Your saying there are times that you just miss out on top talent and might be chosen. I hear you, but when I scan the room of Lovera Bar or Eurphoria the talent level does not compare to classico and I want what I want and I can pick what makes me happy. Never going to settle when I know what is out there. Oldkool I am happy that you are happy with the talent level in sosua. I mean that. I just have high standards for me and just will not be happy if I do not do me. Again, does not change the fact that I love staying in the higher end properties of sosua, but talent does not match my expectations. Everyone has to be happy with their decisions and expectations. I just say what I think, feel and see.[/QUOTE]The thing is Revere, what other men are doing in Sosua or what standards they have, never had or has any connection to you. It's not like folks here have been engaging you in debate or criticisms on why you have the standards or expectations you have. Which would compel you to post your opinion about the quality of chicas being way down, or that there are no hot chicks in Sosua. And further to advise the fellas, ya'll need to check out the clubs and hot chicks in PP. Why do you care if some guys do not see the glass as half empty for what they get out of Sosua? After all, other men still coming to Sosua and having a good time does not affect your ability to enjoy and maintain the standards / expectations you experience elsewhere?

I have seen enough instances where some guys are reporting that they started going to different locations to monger. And in the same breath feel the need to use their new disdain for a previous destination as the reason for it. Then they want to criticize, condescend, or come off as somewhat superior to those who still find value in something they don't anymore. What does that behavior seem like to you? If another mans standards / expectations and MO is really not your concern, not connected to you in any way, and you respect another mans right to his preferences / standards etc, (even if they are not your own) and you also believe we all have our own tastes, what's the reason for bringing up your standards / expectations being different?

[QUOTE=Sammon;2144677]In Mongerworld we try to get best looking, best providers who rock our world, best service in and out of bed in exchange for best deal money wise. This is why we travel all over the worlds sex destinations. If we are ready to pay any amount we need not travel. All kinds of beautiful girls are available right here in USA.

In this case Dominican Republic especially Sosua used to be a destination where over the years I had great fun with good looking women who gave good service cheap. Not anymore. Remember we do not go there for dating. We are there to get girls by paying money. Not any amount of money. It is a business deal. We try to get the best price. There is no need to ' Meeting of minds ' like you put it. She is not your date. Moment your back is turned she is up for sale again.

Quality of the girls has gone down quite a bit. No more country girls coming to Sosua to make money from foreigners as it used to be because of police crackdowns and closing of some bars etc. All I saw over 4 nights is mostly ugly girls with very few passable girls. Only a couple or so good looking. What I do is negotiate prices just to get the feel. Just because I ask the price it does not mean I want to take that girl. If we let girls dictate the price, service, time we are screwed. We need to let them know we are the buyers who dictate.

Freewheeling mongers has spoiled many destinations by acting like weekend millionaires.[/QUOTE]Sammon your premise is somewhat flawed. I'm not sure who is identified as "we", but being a monger is not some monolithic mindset/MO. And when it comes to standards / expectations / quality etc, one mans preferences does not set the bar for others. If a guy can't get his needs met, his issue is not every other mongers issue. Every monger does not seek to get the best looking girl to rock his world. That only applies to you and those that fit the criteria. The key thing you said that I agree with is that Sosua no longer provides YOU (and others who share your sentiments) with good looking women who give good service cheap to YOU. I agree that YOU try to get the best price. But again, that does not apply to every monger. The good thing about choices, Sosua is not hindering anyone from never stepping foot there again. One mans disappointment does not automatically make another mans experience a failed opportunity.

Going to watch the adults and kids play at the ball field.

Watching intense games of chess with several guys at The Tree House.

Hooking up with guys to chop it up (discussing everything from A to Z) along with chica watching.

Listening to music at ones favorite eating or drinking spot.

Driving around looking for possible places to rent or buy property (especially for those nearing retirement).

Several guys enjoying swimming / snorkeling in the bay.

Meeting guys from all over the globe.

Make plans to travel to places through the contacts they made.

Investing time in seeking better quality hookups instead of relying on chicas in Sosua alone. Establishing regulars that offer TLN, GFE, good looking, affordability and a degree of trust.

Maintaining ones fitness by attending the local gyms in town. Or renting a bicycle.

Doing research on other hotels, just in case.

Enjoying a day / night in ones place just relaxing (TV, movies, studying etc).

Thats just a small list.

It's interesting the things a man can do with his time when his thirst for women / companionship / sex can be put on the back burner.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2144648]A haitiana I know needs some cash to resolve a family issue in Haiti in four weeks time. She is 28, a semi-pro, attractive, slim side of average, clean, honest, and a cheerful companion in public or in private. I have known her for eight years and can recommend her. She has an evening job so is only available for the next three Wednesday nights (28 Feb, 7 Mar or 14 Mar). She speaks good Spanish and a little French and English. (Her native tongue is of course Haitian Kreyol, but I guess any member who can speak that needs no help hooking up with haitianas).

She could be with you from 5 pm to 10 am next morning (unlimited pops) and wants 4000 pesos for those 17 hours plus return transport from Puerto Plata. Or would stay with you in Puerto Plata at your place or at Mountain View Hotel. She would also expect a cheap evening meal and breakfast.

I feel a bit awkward "advertising" her here but she asked me to help and I keep reading about guys having bad experiences in Sosua or guys who want to try a haitiana but are deterred from doing so by the hard-core cliques in Sosua. You will have no problems with her trying to up the price or wanting to leave early. She has never done drugs or smoked or hooked in Sosua, and she drinks little alcohol. No tattoos or piercings and knows how to dress so as not to embarrass you in public or where you live.

If interested, PM me with your email address. Best would be you come to Puerto Plata at 4 pm (cost you 160 pesos return from Sosua) and we all three have a drink on the Malecon (very pleasant now the weather is improving) to see if you and she hit it off. If either of you do not fancy it, then no harm, no foul, and you could be back in Sosua in time for dinner (unless you fancy sampling Puerto Plata at night).

I do not have WhatsApp now but expect to within a few days.[/QUOTE]I will be in town again on the 4th of April and she sounds like someone I would appreciate meeting. PM me if she's still around and needs assistance. I must admit I send a couple chicas $25.00 to $30.00 us if they ask. Thing is they seldom ask so I don't mind helping out from time to time. When I get to Sosua they treat me very well in all aspects.

Peace,

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2144704]..... being a monger is not some monolithic mindset/MO. And when it comes to standards / expectations / quality etc, one mans preferences does not set the bar for others..... Every monger does not seek to get the best looking girl to rock his world....[/QUOTE]I have been having sex for close to 50 years now and have reached a stage in my life where fucking average and below average girls just does not do it for me. I would rather save my money and go to more expensive destinations like Germany or Brazil where I can session hot girls. I actually would rather stay home and wank to the likes of Vanessa Veracruz than travel to a destination to sample sub par girls. Now this is good news for mongers in Sosua for that means less punters to compete for their girls so I guess that Sosua regulars would appreciate that.

Good idea for a thread, Wrx2005, especially if others chip in with ideas. The truth is that there is not that much else to do once you have visited a couple of times, but plenty to keep a first-time visitor on a shortish trip amused.

I would add:

Visit Castillo Mundo King (Google it if you do not already know of it), a ten minute walk up the hill behind the cop shop (or take a moto if a hot day). Sadly Rolf, its creator and custodian, died recently so you may need to check if and what hours it is still open.

Some people like Monkey Jungle and / or the adjacent ziplining.

Massage at Kika's

A day trip to Puerto Plata (35 minutes ride). Cost you a dollar each way by publico (or two dollars to buy two seats for more comfort). Suggest you ride to Parque Central, where the cathedral is, then walk to the Malecon (5 minutes) from there. I am happy to meet guys for a drink on the Malecon afternoons if pre-arranged.

A day trip to Cabarete (15 minutes ride). I think 35 pesos each way.

Visit the (very small) Jewish Museum about the origins of Sosua (founded by Jewish refugees).

[QUOTE=Turgid;2144859]I have been having sex for close to 50 years now and have reached a stage in my life where fucking average and below average girls just does not do it for me. I would rather save my money and go to more expensive destinations like Germany or Brazil where I can session hot girls. I actually would rather stay home and wank to the likes of Vanessa Veracruz than travel to a destination to sample sub par girls. Now this is good news for mongers in Sosua for that means less punters to compete for their girls so I guess that Sosua regulars would appreciate that.[/QUOTE]Exactly! If a particular destination doesn't serve ones needs, all a person needs to do is adapt to what works for them. A speech or declaration about it is un necessary. Nobody needs to know how or where someone else gets their rocks off. Thats because everyone has their own needs, preferences, standards, skill set, maturity level and experience. Very often a persons choice is comprised of more than it being about the women.

Nobody would ever know somebody existed or what their standards were unless they themselves volunteered that information. That info is just not on any other mongers mind to care about. And trust, mongers who choose to go to someone elses unfavorable destination (including Sosua) will not and have not lost any sleep over their departure, nor feel a sense of relief that somebody moved on. One won't miss or care about what they can't measure.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2144866]Good idea for a thread, Wrx2005, especially if others chip in with ideas. The truth is that there is not that much else to do once you have visited a couple of times, but plenty to keep a first-time visitor on a shortish trip amused.

I would add:

Visit Castillo Mundo King (Google it if you do not already know of it), a ten minute walk up the hill behind the cop shop (or take a moto if a hot day). Sadly Rolf, its creator and custodian, died recently so you may need to check if and what hours it is still open.

Some people like Monkey Jungle and / or the adjacent ziplining.

Massage at Kika's

A day trip to Puerto Plata (35 minutes ride). Cost you a dollar each way by publico (or two dollars to buy two seats for more comfort). Suggest you ride to Parque Central, where the cathedral is, then walk to the Malecon (5 minutes) from there. I am happy to meet guys for a drink on the Malecon afternoons if pre-arranged.

A day trip to Cabarete (15 minutes ride). I think 35 pesos each way.

Visit the (very small) Jewish Museum about the origins of Sosua (founded by Jewish refugees).[/QUOTE]Good additions. I especially like getting massages. Kika's is one of my favorite spots. As well as Karina's massage down the street. I saw a couple of Youtube vids about Jewish settlement in Sosua back in the day. Interesting stuff.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2144677]Freewheeling mongers has spoiled many destinations by acting like weekend millionaires.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Assuming that is true, are they the only mongers who have spoiled many destinations? Exactly how does a free wheeling monger spoil a destination? Are there any other types of mongers that can spoil a destination? For instance, how about the mongers who are WESTERN UNIONIZED? Or the guys marrying local women or facilitating them moving away?

Or the guys buying cars, paying for apartments for local women etc? Do those guys have impact on spoiling a destination? Do they contribute to driving up the expectations of women (young and old) hoping to get what other chicks got? Maybe we can attribute all of these things being responsible for so much low quality and talent from women trying to get a piece of the action? It's to the point all types of women come out the wood work looking to get paid.

Lets focus on the women for a moment. Can we attribute destinations being spoiled by the women themselves? Like women recklessly having babies by local men, putting themselves in the position of having to resort to pay for play? How about the family structure in the last 5 yrs? Have the family values and home training gotten better or worse for folks in any mongering destination?

There was a time more women seemed to have and demonstrated domestic skills. They voluntarily cooked and cleaned for mongers. What seems more prevalent today with women in enough destinations? It sure aint trying to be someones Suzy homemaker. It's more about making a quick buck.

And if they can get it without working for it, the better it is for them. ( scamming, thieving, lying ). Point being, a lot has changed over the years with women, and in the family structure. One can't sit back and blame things on men, and not open the aperture a little wider to see that women have also changed. And men also adapted to womens changes. So again, if a particular destination doesn't serve one's needs, there is no use complaining about it, just go where one can get their needs met.

Now if one can't afford to do that, don't blame that on others. Take responsibility and do what is necessary if there are any shortcomings ( the shortcomings of the participants of any destinations or as an individual having issues getting his needs met elsewhere. Ex, wanting to go to a better destination, but it's too far, too costly etc ).

The man was fascinating to talk to if you could suspend your disbelief and hear him out with an open mind. A visit there is fascinating and slightly disturbing but will definitely pique your interest.

Watch for the bees!

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2144866]Good idea for a thread, Wrx2005, especially if others chip in with ideas. The truth is that there is not that much else to do once you have visited a couple of times, but plenty to keep a first-time visitor on a shortish trip amused.

I would add:

Visit Castillo Mundo King (Google it if you do not already know of it), a ten minute walk up the hill behind the cop shop (or take a moto if a hot day). Sadly Rolf, its creator and custodian, died recently so you may need to check if and what hours it is still open.

Some people like Monkey Jungle and / or the adjacent ziplining.

Massage at Kika's

A day trip to Puerto Plata (35 minutes ride). Cost you a dollar each way by publico (or two dollars to buy two seats for more comfort). Suggest you ride to Parque Central, where the cathedral is, then walk to the Malecon (5 minutes) from there..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sammon;2144677]What I do is negotiate prices just to get the feel. Just because I ask the price it does not mean I want to take that girl. If we let girls dictate the price, service, time we are screwed. We need to let them know we are the buyers who dictate.[/QUOTE]Sammon, I agree that mongers shouldn't let girls dictate certain things. While a monger has control over what he chooses to pay, he can't dictate the quality of service a girl puts out. He also can't dictate how much time a chica puts in providing whatever he thinks he's paying for. All a monger can do is calculate and speculate beforehand on what he might get. Meanwhile women have their own way of getting what they want. Being seductive enough to get men to think they might get a certain type of service, GFE or time.

That means, if a monger desires GFE or LT, he can't dictate that a chica provide that. Just because he has money. It's entirely up to the woman on whether on not she chooses to provide that. A woman can get around the time issue as well. She can leave after a guy busts a nut. She can make up some reason why she has to leave. The main thing a monger can do is dictate his response to the control the female has. That usually involves trying not to pay in full. Good luck with that. Because that could lead to paying considerably more. He can choose not to hire that chick again. And if a monger thinks him bad mouthing her to other mongers or him refusing to give repeat business is going to stop her hustle, he is sadly mistaken.

Bottom line, after the deed is done, if a monger did not get what he was paying for, he did not dictate anything. The woman did.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2144940]And if a monger thinks him bad mouthing her to other mongers or him refusing to give repeat business is going to stop her hustle, he is sadly mistaken.[/QUOTE]LOL. I have been warning guys about a chick that had a visible STD when I took her. You think that is fucking stopping them? They are looking for every possible reason to get her anyway.