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[QUOTE=HotelAl;2312224]Which is the best city to see on my first trip?? [/QUOTE]Subjective but usually people choose between Cartagena, Bogota, Medellin or Cali. You can read through the various threads to see what might appeal to your particular taste.
[QUOTE=HotelAl;2312224]I used to go to Rio regularly, but have not been there is years. I do Costa Rica and MTY. But have been thinking about Columbia. Which is the best city to see on my first trip??[/QUOTE]If you want hot weather, a beach, and easy to find women (but limited quantity compared to Bogota and Medellin), Cartegena. If you want cool to cold weather with lots of women, Bogota. If you want weather not too hot nor too cold, and plenty of women that you will have to put a little effort into finding, Medellin. You will get more for your money in Medellin with women, food, and lodging.
I am curious why you gave up Rio. Was it the distance? I've never been there, but if it is as good as many people say, I can't imagine anyone using Costa Rica as a substitute.
[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2312205]True as again last night I was in centro, again hehehehe, with my best Colombian amigo who settled in on a venie, him his venie and my paisa at about 11 PM last night then we went to that motel nearby for 3 hours.
Lets dispel the myth about 15 mil sex with any venie, I wish it was true but this is becoming an urban myth. Believe me as 2 weeks ago I was in Cucuta and searched far and wide for the mythical 10 mil sex with a venie, just not true and truth be told glad it is not true.
The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]It's not a myth about the 15 mil sex. Three of my Colombian regulars have confirmed this. However, I have no idea what these Vzs look like. I do know for a fact that the going rate for the Colombians can be as low as 20 K as I have been quoted this price by several of them, however they were not hotties.
The Vzs are desperate in my opinion, and I can easily see them dropping their prices, especially the very plain ones to make money. Additionally, a Colombian should easily do better than a foreigner when it comes to pricing with them. So with that being said it might be very difficult for a foreigner to get a Vzs for 15 K. My experience with the Vzs in El Centro has been mixed. The nicer ones have quoted me 30 K which is the going rate for a nice Colombian on the streets. However a few quoted me 50 K and I just laughed at them and told them good luck.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2312186]Haha, I was going to post just the opposite!
I'm in Brazil for a couple weeks every month.
So Paulo and Rio.
They both rock!
To me they're on a different level, both higher and lower actually, LOL.
The only advantage I see to Colombia for mongering is closer proximity to USA / Canada, etc for travel purposes.
Love them both.
Brazil better IMO.
Don't know what the previous poster experienced in Rio, but damn, not to enjoy Rio.
Whaaaaat?? LOL.[/QUOTE]Sorry, respectably disagree. Both Mexico and Colombia are way better then Rio for me, Russia / Parts of Europe, blow both of them away. I am sure S. P. Is much more my style, but I have no desire to go ever back to Brazil major let down. I will leave out the details, but not for me.
The reality is I'm not going to give out numbers. These girls are my friends. Poblado is a unique part of medellin. Personally, I find richer experiences in local's spots. You guys need to explore.
Today is El Dia Sin Carro in Medellin. It's an annual event due to the extreme level of air pollution. I first found out through an email from Uber. The fine if caught driving your vehicle today is about $130 USD. There are some exceptions. Anyway, the streets are nice and quiet today and it almost feels like a Sunday. For those trying to get an Uber today, good luck!
[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2312265]The reality is I'm not going to give out numbers. These girls are my friends. Poblado is a unique part of medellin. Personally, I find richer experiences in local's spots. You guys need to explore.[/QUOTE]Good to hear about Poblado. That's where I'm staying. I'm looking for more like TLN / repeat / non pros than I am spa girls. So Poblado I think will be nice for this.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2312244]You will get more for your money in Medellin with women[/QUOTE]People have been posting good reports for Bogota with good prices and talk of an influx of Venezolanas. I haven't been to Bogota but have lived in Medellin for a few years. Just curious why you think "you will get more for your money in Medellin with women."
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2312244]I am curious why you gave up Rio. Was it the distance? I've never been there, but if it is as good as many people say, I can't imagine anyone using Costa Rica as a substitute.[/QUOTE]There are many different types of mongers. Many of the Rio mongers were the same as the Sosua mongers. They could be on one block (Meia Pataca and Help - I remember getting on a flight and seeing a guy with more gold on than Mr. T. I told him not to go down to Rio with all of that jewelry. He said that is okay, I am going no further than Help.) and there would be as many chicks as they could handle for the rest of their lives. It was all point and click for them. I was giving chicks $25 for all night back then. When Help Disco closed, that area dried up for that style of mongering.
Now the only place like that is Mab's at the other end of the beach and it is an old shell of how it was before. You can only find a hand full of chicks (some decent, most below decent) there late at night and many want too much money. The type of monger that learned how to speak Portuguese and/or had already ventured out to the places downtown or had learned to dig chicks up on the websites are still holding strong.
Same thing with Medellin. Many mongers on this thread do not leave the Parque Lleras area of Poblado. If something happened and no more hookers could or would come to Poblado, many would just not go anymore, instead of learning Spanish, the ropes downtown, or other ways to find chicks. In short, when the point and click goes away, so do many of the mongers.
Costa Rica has the Del Rey Hotel which is point and click. It also has Jaco. But I would not be caught dead paying those prices. Besides, many of the chicks are from different countries like DR and Colombia, and you know they did not travel to a different country to charge LESS money. I would rather go to the downtown casas that the locals go to. Same thing in Medellin. You got guys doing the gringo thing (Facebook and Gustos) and paying 5 to 10 times the price or guys going to the cheaper local spots and fucking the same girls for way less. It is all according to your style of mongering.
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Costa Rica has the Del Rey Hotel which is point and click. It also has Jaco. I would rather go to the downtown casas that the locals go to. [/QUOTE]I knew a guy that lived in San Jose and he showed me a lot of the local spots throughout the city. I had some epic sessions and memorable experiences in those places off the beaten path. Haven't been to San Jose in years but I would definitely hit those spots again if I go back. The gulch was always decent but I wouldn't do Jaco again.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2312201]I live in Medellin and spend about 95% of the year in Colombia so I'm interested in checking out Rio for a change of scenery. The flights are only about $400 USD. I've always heard what you expressed about Brazil being on another level.[/QUOTE]I really enjoy the Brasileira.
Maybe because I'm there so much, I've built quite the stable of "girlfriends".
São Paulo has the low and high end CLínicas / prives, similar to casas in Medellin.
Also plenty of low to high end nighttime clubs for mongering activity.
Rio has the beach obviously, the layed back atmosphere.
Between the daytime CLínicas / prives, termas, and low end areas, I keep very busy and happy.
Love Colombia too!
Heading to Medellin this weekend.
Brasil is my numero uno, Colombia as we all know, Rocks as well!
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2312244]If you want hot weather, a beach, and easy to find women (but limited quantity compared to Bogota and Medellin), Cartegena. If you want cool to cold weather with lots of women, Bogota. If you want weather not too hot nor too cold, and plenty of women that you will have to put a little effort into finding, Medellin. You will get more for your money in Medellin with women, food, and lodging.
I am curious why you gave up Rio. Was it the distance? I've never been there, but if it is as good as many people say, I can't imagine anyone using Costa Rica as a substitute.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I live in Hoston and the flight was long (8-9 hrs) and the airfare was getting really expensive. With the closing of Help disco, it kind of made me decide to take a break from Rio. I started going to Costa Rica, it was closer (3. 5 hrs) and cheaper. I saw a lot of ladies and did have a good time, but now I am bored and might be looking at Colombia. I like Monterrey, but the airfare can get expensive (1 HR flight). Funny thing, while I was waiting for a flight from San Jose I was on a gate next to a flight going to Bogota. Wow I saw nothing but beautiful women! I will be looking at a trip to Colombia soon.
I have had a lot of good times in Poblado. With girls and guys who I consider my friends. The key point being the best times were with people who I was able to build rapport, trust and respect. Those when rapport seemed to come much faster and easier than others. We all know a complicated interracion within the first minutes of meeting someone. That is your signal to excuse yourself and move on. Oh....and that taught me better spanish LOL which gives me the advantage of surviing in other parts of the city I consider less touristy. Almost every barrio hasa square with a church. These are great places to go, have a coffee and people watch. Paisas are extremely friendly and often initiate first contact beause they are curious about foreigners. I guess when you get past the first impressions, its not about money.
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Same thing with Medellin. Many mongers on this thread do not leave the Parque Lleras area of Poblado. If something happened and no more hookers could or would come to Poblado, many would just not go anymore, instead of learning Spanish, the ropes downtown, or other ways to find chicks. In short, when the point and click goes away, so do many of the mongers.
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I wanted to edit my previous post but I waited more than 60 minutes to do so while I left the page open so I was unable to do so. So here it is...
I have had a lot of good times in Poblado. With girls and guys who I consider my friends. A lot of people have their agenda. Recently having met some great peopl and restarting with some from the past, I want my key point to be the best moments were and are with people who I was able to build rapport, trust and respect. It could be in any part of Medellin. However, I'm not perfect either. Selfish? In reference to you guys here, I have often felt I was responsable for making what could be a boring time a GREAT time because of my help with translations, knowledge of the city new places, good food and attempts at avoiding problems, crowds, rip offs scams etc. And therefore felt underappreciated because a friend invited me out on their vacation. But ends up being a lot more expesive than I would normally do. So I guess "invite" is a grey area and since I am really uncomfortable and awkaward about asking someone to pay for my stuff I feel a little screwed. LOL. But because they invited me and we have good rapport I say yes when I should have said no or maybe, "I don't have the money for that right now. " I hope remembering to say this will help things go better for me financially in the future.
Anyway. Those people with whom rapport seemed to come much faster and easier than others. Sometimes even instantly! Even though this board is about hooking up, having good times with good people are the situations and memories we try to create. We all know a complicated interracion within the first minutes. That is your signal to excuse yourself and move on. I guess if you can get past the first impressions, its not about money. Oh. And being in the middle, has also helped me learn better spanish LOL which gives me the advantage of confidence in other parts of the city I consider less touristy.
Even though I know A LOT of what is said in this forum is B. S. , projections of what we imagine, hot air, people making provocations, and a lot of guys pretending to be someone else. I must remind myself because I FORGET that the subject matter is sensitive. I know most of the time I come here I am in alterred states and at times didn't even remember what I wrote, probably stressed out, tired or buzzed. For a long time, what started as just a distraction at home feeling lonely, has become an avenue to vent my own personal frustrations and simply to change my focus from other pressing real life issues as I am sure many others do. I get private messages and I respond with what I think people want to hear. Its a faceless community and it seems like more or less the same things get repeated and I just get desensitized because I want to think whoever is writing to me, I probably will never meet and they are just amped to go on vacation and the details arent really too important so I just say whatever even though my personal choices are different.
Going forward, I know what is right and wrong and not simply what is convenient. Even though this forum is for sharing information and entertainment I have said things without thought that when looking back, I personally think have crossed some lines. Some of which I wish I could edit, correct or even take them back. Sooooo getting back on track with some actual useful information, let me recommend the Spanish language program, The Pimsler Approach, once again! I used to listen to those discs in my car. They are conversational and situational lessons. I had them memorized! (One of the best tools in my learning process of Spanish). Furthermore, as most people know but may not think about is that almost every barrio has a square with a church. These are great places to go, have a coffee and people watch. Floresta for example is a nice part of the city, not too out of the way and always has something going on in the park. Families, kids, dogs horse rides, and an interesting variety of foods and restaurants. Arepas stuffed with everything, burgers and hot dogs, fresh healthy juices for 2 - 3 mil that you would pay $7 in the states, You may be surprised. Paisas are extremely friendly and often initiate first contact beause they are curious about foreigners and they don't care if your Spanish is terrible. LOL Just as long as you seem relaxed.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2312273]There are many different types of mongers. Many of the Rio mongers were the same as the Sosua mongers. They could be on one block (Meia Pataca and Help - I remember getting on a flight and seeing a guy with more gold on than Mr. T. I told him not to go down to Rio with all of that jewelry. He said that is okay, I am going no further than Help.) and there would be as many chicks as they could handle for the rest of their lives. It was all point and click for them. I was giving chicks $25 for all night back then. When Help Disco closed, that area dried up for that style of mongering.
Now the only place like that is Mab's at the other end of the beach and it is an old shell of how it was before. You can only find a hand full of chicks (some decent, most below decent) there late at night and many want too much money. The type of monger that learned how to speak Portuguese and/or had already ventured out to the places downtown or had learned to dig chicks up on the websites are still holding strong.
Same thing with Medellin. Many mongers on this thread do not leave the Parque Lleras area of Poblado. If something happened and no more hookers could or would come to Poblado, many would just not go anymore, instead of learning Spanish, the ropes downtown, or other ways to find chicks. In short, when the point and click goes away, so do many of the mongers.
Costa Rica has the Del Rey Hotel which is point and click. It also has Jaco. But I would not be caught dead paying those prices. Besides, many of the chicks are from different countries like DR and Colombia, and you know they did not travel to a different country to charge LESS money. I would rather go to the downtown casas that the locals go to. Same thing in Medellin. You got guys doing the gringo thing (Facebook and Gustos) and paying 5 to 10 times the price or guys going to the cheaper local spots and fucking the same girls for way less. It is all according to your style of mongering.[/QUOTE]Just the mention of HELP in Rio and my heart starts beating faster, and my 2 visits to SP and Rio were back in 2000 yep 19 years ago. The memories will be with me till the day I am on the other side of the ground.
Must agree that if not for Poblado and Park Lleras 90% of the mongers would never come, sad but to each his own. I only go to Poblado when a friend pushes me there for a meal or have a drink.
Same with the high end men's clubs, I never go BUT last night a Colombian amigo wanted to check out Fase Dos, so paid the 10 mil and went inside for an hour with him, this was my first return in about a year or more, and guess what I counted about 100 total hombres and 85 were gringos, and the plastic chicas were, I should say are, simply gross to me and an insult to my taste, no thank you. Well good I don't have to re-visit this shit hole for another year or two. Again IMHO.
I have the same opine for Gustos and the FB chicas, no thanks, just over priced pussy, listen in, in decades past the tall man was married to a russian model so I don't need absolute beauty (perfectly symmetrical face) but rather the girl next door type which there are hordes of them here in Colombia that fit that bill perfectly.
The Tall Man.