Angeles City

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2833707]At 6:00 pm, July 14,2023 NS and I are having drinks at Lollipop Bar to reconcile our standards of beautiful girls and whether there is a 2 tier bar fine system or not. We are on opposite ends of the scale and probably won't change. Need your help in this.

NS knows the owner and manager. I am suggesting and inviting other mongers to join in for a drink and grading. First drinks are on me. All are invited. The system is to tell the waitress you are here with NS and she will inform the manager and or owner. As I will do the same.

If you wish to remain anonymous and just want to file a field report please feel free to do so.

Looking forward to this.[/QUOTE]He knows the owner and manager and has over 1 week before meeting Hmm. That is a lot of in between time.

I'm sure she appreciated that =) provide a return exp if you come again.

Victor.

[QUOTE=SAInterested;2833675]Short time is P3000 and long time is P4000.

I had already paid the barfine at the bar P4000 for long time, so letting her go early as I was tired was my choice and it never crossed my mind to try to negotiate some money back. The lady was willing to stay the whole time, though.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SAInterested;2833675]Short time is P3000 and long time is P4000.

I had already paid the barfine at the bar P4000 for long time, so letting her go early as I was tired was my choice and it never crossed my mind to try to negotiate some money back. The lady was willing to stay the whole time, though.[/QUOTE]When you pay 4 K barfine is that just for the bar and then you have to give the girl 3 or 4 k for sex.

[QUOTE=KumuMan;2833820]He knows the owner and manager and has over 1 week before meeting Hmm. That is a lot of in between time.[/QUOTE]Come join us 6 pm, July 14,2023. I repeated the time and date so there is no confusion.

Tell them you are with the Nappa group.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2833707]At 6:00 pm, July 14,2023 NS and I are having drinks at Lollipop Bar to reconcile our standards of beautiful girls and whether there is a 2 tier bar fine system or not. We are on opposite ends of the scale and probably won't change. Need your help in this.

NS knows the owner and manager. I am suggesting and inviting other mongers to join in for a drink and grading. First drinks are on me. All are invited. The system is to tell the waitress you are here with NS and she will inform the manager and or owner. As I will do the same.

If you wish to remain anonymous and just want to file a field report please feel free to do so.

Looking forward to this.[/QUOTE]Who said I had agreed to drinks at 6 pm on the 14th, it takes two to make arrangements, not just your good self to agree a time and date by your self without consulting the other party to see if they can make that time and date, I had specifically asked you to send me a private pm to make arrangements that suits both parties which you did not.

Obviously had you asked instead of just charging ahead and making your own arrangements then you would have been informed that I am not even in angeles city for the next 7 days because some of us run busy companys and travel often on business.

Morale of the story, quite happy to buy you a beer at a convenient time and date to both parties. As far as comparing girls, no need, I already know that our tastes differ greatly, how do I know, simple, where you claim to see and barfine many great looking 8+ girls from lollipop bar me and many many barhop friends never see even 1 girl we would even buy a drink for let alone barfine in lollipop bar.

As always beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so in such I'm glad you manage to find your type of girls, of course your type of girls does not mean any one else would be happy with them, anyways, safe trip.

A few thoughts if I may on the last few weeks in angeles.

Where over the last few months the week day nights saw a fair few expats and asians in the westerner and asian bars they were never busy, some bars even no customers, some bars doing just ok.

The weekends were a different story, Friday and Saturday nights would see the number of visiting asian guys double / treble and even though the western bars remained quiet the asian bars would be rocking, guys spending big money in the asian bars, sitting with multiple girls, buying multiple lady drinks, tipping everyone, throwing handfulls of money at the girls on stage etc.

What has happened over the last few weekends is that although the asian number do go up a bit its nowhere as much as before, it seems that even those asians that are in town are not inviting so many girls to sit, yes they all have 1 each at the table where as before 2 or 3 guys would be buying drinks for 6/7 girls at the same time.

Hotels seem to be very quiet, the roads seem to be much quieter, the dance clubs that were once busy are now opening just weekend and then the most clients to the dance clubs are pinoys out with other pinoys.

Where there were not so long ago many massage girls in walking street these seem to have completely disapeared, where recently one could see some street walker girls these too are much fewer, what is about the same number is the lady boys outside phillies, they seem to get taller, butcher and more pushy by the day, viagra sellers, cigarette sellers, trike drivers all are getting more desperate for punters and of course more agressive with it.

P. s, please note, no arrangements have been made by my self for drinks with member dg8787 for the 14,7,23,it seems he made the arrangements of time and date on his own without consulting availability, thanks.

I have to say I really like living here in Angeles city, in my head for years it was always Pattaya and the move here was sorta unplanned. The bars don't compare at all to Pattaya but they give you something to do. If you live on the main drag in Pattaya you have those the baht buses. Here you have the trike mafi. Never hop in a trike here and say take me to this place if it involves lots of weaving around different streets, the price at the end will be double what booking a trike using the GRAB app will run you. What sets this place apart is the girls. I'm not talking the Asian dolls the Koreans take but the natural lookers. Yeah you'll get the scammers, be ready for the bullshit. But in most cases there are just some really nice girls here who go well over the wham bam thank you maam rouitine. I've got a girl who comes over after a long day at school and doesn't eat anything but breakfast and I'll have the food ready for her to do the cooking. She strips naked and puts on an apron. Other day she brought over an equally cute friend and they were both cooking up a storm while naked. After dinner into the bedroom for a fantastic threesome. Later they go out on my balcony to have a smoke and chill NAKED. And its not like I'm in a secluded high rise.

Lately I've been getting friend requests on facebook from many of the working girls around this area. I chatted one up and made arrangements for 1500 for short time, had her meeting me on walking street. Before the meet told her 'I also need a good BJ tonight'. Just wanted to make sure they don't say 'I don't do that' when they show up. Her reply was a simple 'NO'. That answer right there set off the warning bells, not worth bothering with an unknown if they are going to give abrupt answers like that. She then says 3000 short time. To which I laughed and said 'just stay home'. The warning bells were right.

So then I'm just planning on going out for some beers and hit a few bars and step into a Korean joint. Place was hopping, lots of girls at 6 pm with few customers. And I'm getting the stares from a girl on the stage that is just perfect for me. Kept looking and every time she could she looked over, most of the other girls were keeping their eyes on the mirror behind me. So I get her a drink and right off the bat I ask for her number. Sure. Pull out the phone and she keys it in. Hasn't been here long but hates the Koreans making her dance from 10 am to 7 pm with little breaks. I then take off and meet her down the street. And she shows up with a friend. More the merrier, had food in the fridge and let them cook themselves dinner after working those shitty hours. Then who calls them? Mamasan. Wants to know where they are at since they are living in rooms provided by the Koreans. That just isn't right, that is borderline trafficking. Mamasan might be doing the calling but the owners are controlling the girls movements way more than a foreigner should. I took my girl into the bedroom while her friend kept cooking and had a great time for 2000 vs spending 5000 on a barfine.

[QUOTE=Breadman;2834359]... Mamasan. Wants to know where they are at since they are living in rooms provided by the Koreans. That just isn't right, that is borderline trafficking. Mamasan might be doing the calling but the owners are controlling the girls movements way more than a foreigner should...[/QUOTE]Sad to say but mongering isn't always full of happy faces and fun times. Especially so behind the scenes.

Koreans aren't exactly known for their progressive employee relations and focus on being employers of choice, so it's no surprise that they expect their pound of flesh in return for the higher wages that they pay.

Their attitudes towards nationalities that they see as beneath them wouldn't exactly help either.

I'm not saying it's right, just that it's what happens in the real world.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2833890]When you pay 4 K barfine is that just for the bar and then you have to give the girl 3 or 4 k for sex.[/QUOTE]Barfines in Angeles are all in and paid upfront, before leaving the bar. That's why there are so many bad reports of poor performance, early runners etc: she's already been paid.

If you're super happy, then you can add a tip. 1000 is being very generous.

Pretty much everywhere else is pay first to get her released from work then negotiate an agreed amount for her time and services. Typically this portion is paid as she is leaving.

Enjoy. G.

My mistake but I will be still buying first round 6 pm, July 14,2023. One lucky winner will get 1 k prize money for 3500 bar fine girl for your inconvenience.

[QUOTE=Breadman;2834359]I have to say I really like living here in Angeles city, in my head for years it was always Pattaya and the move here was sorta unplanned. The bars don't compare at all to Pattaya but they give you something to do. If you live on the main drag in Pattaya you have those the baht buses. Here you have the trike mafi. Never hop in a trike here and say take me to this place if it involves lots of weaving around different streets, the price at the end will be double what booking a trike using the GRAB app will run you. What sets this place apart is the girls. I'm not talking the Asian dolls the Koreans take but the natural lookers. Yeah you'll get the scammers, be ready for the bullshit. But in most cases there are just some really nice girls here who go well over the wham bam thank you maam rouitine. I've got a girl who comes over after a long day at school and doesn't eat anything but breakfast and I'll have the food ready for her to do the cooking. She strips naked and puts on an apron. Other day she brought over an equally cute friend and they were both cooking up a storm while naked. After dinner into the bedroom for a fantastic threesome. Later they go out on my balcony to have a smoke and chill NAKED. And its not like I'm in a secluded high rise.

Lately I've been getting friend requests on facebook from many of the working girls around this area. I chatted one up and made arrangements for 1500 for short time, had her meeting me on walking street. Before the meet told her 'I also need a good BJ tonight'. Just wanted to make sure they don't say 'I don't do that' when they show up. Her reply was a simple 'NO'. That answer right there set off the warning bells, not worth bothering with an unknown if they are going to give abrupt answers like that. She then says 3000 short time. To which I laughed and said 'just stay home'. The warning bells were right.

So then I'm just planning on going out for some beers and hit a few bars and step into a Korean joint. Place was hopping, lots of girls at 6 pm with few customers. And I'm getting the stares from a girl on the stage that is just perfect for me. Kept looking and every time she could she looked over, most of the other girls were keeping their eyes on the mirror behind me. So I get her a drink and right off the bat I ask for her number. Sure. Pull out the phone and she keys it in. Hasn't been here long but hates the Koreans making her dance from 10 am to 7 pm with little breaks. I then take off and meet her down the street. And she shows up with a friend. More the merrier, had food in the fridge and let them cook themselves dinner after working those shitty hours. Then who calls them? Mamasan. Wants to know where they are at since they are living in rooms provided by the Koreans. That just isn't right, that is borderline trafficking. Mamasan might be doing the calling but the owners are controlling the girls movements way more than a foreigner should. I took my girl into the bedroom while her friend kept cooking and had a great time for 2000 vs spending 5000 on a barfine.[/QUOTE]Of course when you live in a place the girls will treat you differently than the 4 day tourist. Still, I can't imagine living in AC. Besides girls there is not a single good thing to say about the place. After 3 days my balls are drained and I can't wait to leave. Also, there are other places in the Philippines that are much nice to live and also have a lot of girls, although not bar girls. If I had to live in the PI, ID probably start with Cebu. I need a major city for decent food options at least, some access to diving plus of course girls. But to each their own and glad you are having a good time. Maybe we grab a beer on my next go around.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2834668]Of course when you live in a place the girls will treat you differently than the 4 day tourist. Still, I can't imagine living in AC. Besides girls there is not a single good thing to say about the place. After 3 days my balls are drained and I can't wait to leave. Also, there are other places in the Philippines that are much nice to live and also have a lot of girls, although not bar girls. If I had to live in the PI, ID probably start with Cebu. I need a major city for decent food options at least, some access to diving plus of course girls. But to each their own and glad you are having a good time. Maybe we grab a beer on my next go around.[/QUOTE]Angeles City can be fun for a while but after a year or two, you might feel differently. There is just not that much to do except girls and drinking. I get bored after a few e and prefer a real city like Cebu or other real cities. If you go out to some of the other cities and do online dating, It can be a lot of fun. You can also be flaky but if you have time, it's not a big deal.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2834350]A few thoughts if I may on the last few weeks in angeles.

Where over the last few months the week day nights saw a fair few expats and asians in the westerner and asian bars they were never busy, some bars even no customers, some bars doing just ok.

The weekends were a different story, Friday and Saturday nights would see the number of visiting asian guys double / treble and even though the western bars remained quiet the asian bars would be rocking, guys spending big money in the asian bars, sitting with multiple girls, buying multiple lady drinks, tipping everyone, throwing handfulls of money at the girls on stage etc.

What has happened over the last few weekends is that although the asian number do go up a bit its nowhere as much as before, it seems that even those asians that are in town are not inviting so many girls to sit, yes they all have 1 each at the table where as before 2 or 3 guys would be buying drinks for 6/7 girls at the same time.

Hotels seem to be very quiet, the roads seem to be much quieter, the dance clubs that were once busy are now opening just weekend and then the most clients to the dance clubs are pinoys out with other pinoys.

Where there were not so long ago many massage girls in walking street these seem to have completely disapeared, where recently one could see some street walker girls these too are much fewer, what is about the same number is the lady boys outside phillies, they seem to get taller, butcher and more pushy by the day, viagra sellers, cigarette sellers, trike drivers all are getting more desperate for punters and of course more agressive with it.

P. s, please note, no arrangements have been made by my self for drinks with member dg8787 for the 14,7,23,it seems he made the arrangements of time and date on his own without consulting availability, thanks.[/QUOTE]Guys want bars to be full of young attractive girls so that there is a good selection to choose from. Yet at the same time guys are meeting up with girls without paying the bar fine which hurts the bar's bottom line. Bars that are making less money will not be able to attract a lot of young attractive women. That's why bars try their best to prevent this from happening. Now it may seem wrong that bars have rules to try to stop this from happening But it is to prevent guys from meeting girls at the bar without paying the bar fine.

Now I know some guy say, well most guys are going to pay the bar fine and everything will be fine. But what does everybody started doing this? Will everything still be fine? What it does do is cause the increase in bar fines because if bars are getting less bar fines, they need the amount of the bar fine to compensate for this.

It is primarily the long-term guys who are doing this at the expense of the short-term visitors.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2834668]After 3 days my balls are drained and I can't wait to leave.[/QUOTE]Sure, but 3 days later when you're in Iloilo and getting nothing, you'll start having fond memories of AC, LOL. At least that's how it is for some of us.

Has anyone ever stayed at Aqua Beach Club. It's 110 a night. Looks amazing. Does the club have all hookers or just guests of the hotel. What's the lay of the land. Is it worth the money.