FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2866890]The club is in full swing again. Lots of options. Pricing seems fairly fixed at 200/60. I don't tend to usually do 30 min sessions but asked many girls for prices and the rumours of more than 100 seem odd to me. Probably spoke to 15-20 girls and not one of them quoted more than 100 for 30. But then none of them offered 60 for any less than 200.[/QUOTE]OK, but what did 200/60 get you? I wouldn't have a problem with that if it included BBBJ / CIM. That said, if I don't CIM, then I don't want to pay for that. I'd want 150/60, which seems more than fair to me. And if she's doing anal and I want it, then I would pay an extra 100 for that too. In your view, how reasonable are my expectations here? I mean, I think it would be totally BS to pay 200/60 and not get BBBJ / CIM for that. These greedy tutes can just step off then!

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2866843]And I don't believe you could get 150/100 from her.
[/QUOTE]Should be 150/60 here.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2866843]Alina accepted 150/30 for return customers I knew that. She also offered that price to me.

Roxy, Amy, Sibal, Mira, Mila, Mina, Cami, Shirin, Lola, Florina, etc, might agree 150/30 for customers if they are familiar with. I paid 200 to some of them because I want to compensate some couch time. I don't take advantage from girls.[/QUOTE]Should be 150/60 here too.

Now 100/30 is a universal flat rate.

Hi gentlemen, could we compile a list of girls who still accept 150/60?

Until last week, I know below girls still accepted 150/60.

Lola.

Cami.

Amy.

Mira.

Jennifer.

Shirin?

Lina.

Alina.

Please add more.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2866905]OK, but what did 200/60 get you? I wouldn't have a problem with that if it included BBBJ / CIM. That said, if I don't CIM, then I don't want to pay for that. I'd want 150/60, which seems more than fair to me. And if she's doing anal and I want it, then I would pay an extra 100 for that too. In your view, how reasonable are my expectations here? I mean, I think it would be totally BS to pay 200/60 and not get BBBJ / CIM for that. These greedy tutes can just step off then![/QUOTE]200/60 is standard service including BBBJ and FS (obviously covered). I'm not a CIM fan but it would be 50 extra. They try to upsell a lot. One of the girls asked if I wanted prostate massage with a vibrator. For 50 e! WTF? I have to pay for it (to go up my own ass! Erm. No thanks!

I'll see what pricing is like in Palace and Oase but this goes back to our previous discussion (in Artemis thread).

I will have a very large wager with anyone that inside 12 months it will be 250/60 standard in Sharks. 4 times yesterday I was quoted 300 for either GFE or "romantic time" (never heard that before! And bear in mind that I had several of the faces I did recognise come and greet me with hugs. Including one from one of the barmaids and Pia (masseuse). So it should have been fairly obvious to anyone watching that I was not a newbie tourist.

I'm afraid the girls have realised that pushing the prices from 150/60 up to 200/60 did not deter punters from coming (the club was rammed after midnight). A lot of the girls are chancing their arms and pushing for more / upselling other services to get up to 250 or higher.

At one time I was a real regular at FKKs. And I love the experience so won't abandon it completely. But the days when it was great value for money compared to other mongering options (Spain / Dubai / Thailand) have gone. Of course it couldn't ever compete with Thailand but then the cost of getting there is prohibitive and I know you don't like the Asian ladies as I do! But Dubai is a far better place to be than Frankfurt. The weather, activities, shopping, beach etc. And the diversity of the cultures available and pricing makes it hands down better than Germany. Flights to Dubai are not that much more for me (from UK) and they operate ST / LT instead of pay by the hour.

Still love being surrounded by so many naked beauties so will always want some trips to FKKs. But its not a cheap option anymore. No more expensive than say Madrid / Malaga (where 200 or even 250 (Scandalos and Vive) is normal for an hour). We have to accept that as the cost of living increases for all, that applies to the girls as well. But I certainly felt they were pushing it last night.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2866843]It's just what you said, it's not worthy of belief.

Catelea might charge more from other customers for same services she provided me. And I don't believe you could get 150/100 from her.

Neither Chloe, Sophie, Kitty, Bibi, Jana, Ariana, Kathleen, Stacy, Vanessa, or other top girls would accept 150/60 from any customer recently. It is meaningless to compare one year ago rate when someone (ie Siri) paid 150/60 or less for these girls.

Alina accepted 150/30 for return customers I knew that. She also offered that price to me.

Roxy, Amy, Sibal, Mira, Mila, Mina, Cami, Shirin, Lola, Florina, etc, might agree 150/30 for customers if they are familiar with. I paid 200 to some of them because I want to compensate some couch time. I don't take advantage from girls.[/QUOTE]Most of those You call top girls and You want to pay more expensive for them, are not at all top level and I would not pay anything for most of them, not pretty enough or not the potential for normal european sex. At Sharks or elsewhere, we experience from what we are. I would pay 200/60 only for a wow elegant look and for real fresh true GFE. Why would I pay 200/60 , when I got so often Katalea for 150/60 when she was fresh not needing heavy make up and I remember funny pointing hard nipples and chicken skin on her more round ass at this time. Did You experience for 200 or even 400 ?

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2866843]It's just what you said, it's not worthy of belief. [/QUOTE]As I won't record the chat or film the money hand-over at the locker, it's up to you to believe me or not.

You quoted several times that you are good with paying 200/60. So just keep going. And if you need it for your inner peace: keep on believing everyone has to.

At The Cane: Yes, CIM always is an extra for 50€ more.

At PayForIt: Reading here and at other boards how easy it was for the girls to establish 100/30 and 150/60 after Corona and now already trying to push it to 200/60 (obviously also paid with a smile by far too many men) I agree that the girls won't stop trying to raise their pricing further.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2867004]200/60 is standard service including BBBJ and FS (obviously covered). I'm not a CIM fan but it would be 50 extra. They try to upsell a lot. One of the girls asked if I wanted prostate massage with a vibrator. For 50 e! WTF? I have to pay for it (to go up my own ass! Erm. No thanks!

I'll see what pricing is like in Palace and Oase but this goes back to our previous discussion (in Artemis thread).

I will have a very large wager with anyone that inside 12 months it will be 250/60 standard in Sharks. 4 times yesterday I was quoted 300 for either GFE or "romantic time" (never heard that before! And bear in mind that I had several of the faces I did recognise come and greet me with hugs. Including one from one of the barmaids and Pia (masseuse). So it should have been fairly obvious to anyone watching that I was not a newbie tourist.

I'm afraid the girls have realised that pushing the prices from 150/60 up to 200/60 did not deter punters from coming (the club was rammed after midnight). A lot of the girls are chancing their arms and pushing for more / upselling other services to get up to 250 or higher.

At one time I was a real regular at FKKs. And I love the experience so won't abandon it completely. But the days when it was great value for money compared to other mongering options (Spain / Dubai / Thailand) have gone. Of course it couldn't ever compete with Thailand but then the cost of getting there is prohibitive and I know you don't like the Asian ladies as I do! But Dubai is a far better place to be than Frankfurt. The weather, activities, shopping, beach etc. And the diversity of the cultures available and pricing makes it hands down better than Germany. Flights to Dubai are not that much more for me (from UK) and they operate ST / LT instead of pay by the hour.

Still love being surrounded by so many naked beauties so will always want some trips to FKKs. But its not a cheap option anymore. No more expensive than say Madrid / Malaga (where 200 or even 250 (Scandalos and Vive) is normal for an hour). We have to accept that as the cost of living increases for all, that applies to the girls as well. But I certainly felt they were pushing it last night.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great report. Which day of the week did you visit?

[QUOTE=Austin28;2867056]Thanks for the great report. Which day of the week did you visit?[/QUOTE]Just last night. Wednesday.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2867012]Most of those You call top girls when I got so often Katalea for 150/60 when she was fresh not needing heavy make up and I remember funny pointing hard nipples and chicken skin on her more round ass at this time.[/QUOTE]From your posts I think you might not visit Sharks for very long time. You're still living in the fantasy of the past. Old time rate 50/30 100/60 have been out of date for years. Top girls (Denise / Kitty, Anastasia / Katherine, or Melissa) charged 150/60 in 2019 even before pandemic / covid. Catelea hiked prices from 150/60 to 200/60 since 2022. During first two weeks when Kitty / Denise came back last September (2022), she charged 150/60. However Kitty immediately raised prices to 200/60 or more.

For the first half of this year 2023, majority girls still quoted 150/60, but now in October-November, almost All the girls hiked their prices simultaneously to 200/60.

You should blame inflation, not girls.

I understand cheap Charlies, including myself, feel more or less frustrated about price hike. But I go to clubs for fun, I don't intend to argue with girls to ruin my mood. So I accept what I could NOT change, and Enjoying my time with top girls.

If you feel too expensive, then stop visiting club or stop taking girls, as Siri currently does, find cheaper alternatives.

I believe some below average level MILFs or tan old-fat ladies in Sharks could still accept lower prices.

Lola starts to tryout to quote 200/60 since November. Cami might follow. No long ago Cami quote 130/60 but no more. They both were very busy and always fully booked (7-8 sessions each day as I observed).

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2867004]..........I will have a very large wager with anyone that inside 12 months it will be 250/60 standard in Sharks. 4 times yesterday I was quoted 300 for either GFE or "romantic time" ........[/QUOTE]I will not take you up on that wager because I believe I will lose. If Sharks is crowded with men and they are happily paying 200/60 the girls will fancy their chances and will come together for 150/30 and 250/60 or as much as the men will continue to pay them.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2867150]I will not take you up on that wager because I believe I will lose. If Sharks is crowded with men and they are happily paying 200/60 the girls will fancy their chances and will come together for 150/30 and 250/60 or as much as the men will continue to pay them.[/QUOTE]Yes, it's gotten totally out of control, and I'm definitely not paying that. I think I want to do one more trip to FKK Land, and that's going to be it. There was a time when Brazil and Germany were about on par in terms of overall cost for me. But now, Brazil and its pricing structure works much better for a guy like me, especially with my desire for anal. Germany is just simply becoming too expensive (and I already ditched Spain which offered even less value). I like Brazil better as a mongering destination anyway, and it's an overall better deal for me. Germany is pricing out business from "holiday mongers" such as myself who must also factor in the cost of airfare and lodging expenses. Keep raising prices like this and the FKK model will become unaffordable to too many mongers and ultimately fail. The law of supply and demand is still applicable here. Go ahead and price yourselves right out of business then you greedy tutes! Then what? Go back to Romania (or wherever you're from).

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2867004]At one time I was a real regular at FKKs. And I love the experience so won't abandon it completely. But the days when it was great value for money compared to other mongering options (Spain / Dubai / Thailand) have gone. Of course it couldn't ever compete with Thailand but then the cost of getting there is prohibitive and I know you don't like the Asian ladies as I do! But Dubai is a far better place to be than Frankfurt. The weather, activities, shopping, beach etc. And the diversity of the cultures available and pricing makes it hands down better than Germany.

Still love being surrounded by so many naked beauties so will always want some trips to FKKs. But its not a cheap option anymore.[/QUOTE]I've been to Dubai, German FKKs, and Thailand many times. They all have their pros and cons. As someone put it, Frankfurt is a place for a quick stop to have some fun. Dubai and Thailand are actual vacation destinations you can spend several weeks in. Theres's hundreds of things you can do with a WG in Dubai and Thailand, not so much in Frankfurt outside an FKK. And as you stated, nothing can beat Dubai for diversity, its the united nations of WGs.

However, nothing beats the monger set-up and convenience of a German FKK. You walk into 1 location, everyone is already naked, and you pick which one to have fun with.

No traveling to hotel lobbies, no going to dark loud night clubs, no taxis back and forth, no dress code to worry about, no escorts needing to be signed into reception to come into your hotel, no negotiating with mamasans, no renting a car, no walking in non air conditioned heat, etc.

I still need to check out Colombia and Brazil, as I heard Sao Paulo has a top brothel (Scandallo). But, in my opinion, I can say for certain that a German FKK can still compete with other top monger destination because of pure convenience. As far as cheap options well Sosua in the Dominican Republic is cheap with endless women, but youre still going to be bored as its a small beachtown with nothing else to do. Modern mongering really isnt cheap any more.

[QUOTE=HappyTour;2865229]The corner couch is the center of club but facing bar. Vanness, Mara and Juliana sit together. They are pretty.

Next to them are Kitty's clique (4 girls), which are ugly (except Kitty) moody and have bad manners (including Kitty) all the time.

Kitty's clique includes Kitty, Malvania, Tamara, and 4th girl, some of them belong to ex-Betty's clique. Try to avoid them to save you money and mood.

Under aquarium couch now occupied by Adriana, Lorena, Teodora, etc. They are ok and deserve to try 100/30. Roxy's group share couch with them.[/QUOTE]If you are a regular customer you can pay 75 for 30 minutes with these girls. If it's your first time you pay 100 for 30 minutes.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2867170]However, nothing beats the monger set-up and convenience of a German FKK. You walk into 1 location, everyone is already naked, and you pick which one to have fun with. I still need to check out Colombia and Brazil, as I heard Sao Paulo has a top brothel (Scandallo). But, in my opinion, I can say for certain that a German FKK can still compete with other top other monger destination because of pure convenience.[/QUOTE]Although not as big and luxurious as the best FKKs in Germany, the Brazilian termas in Rio de Janeiro match the FKKs for offering convenience as it's a very similar setup. I love them both for what they offer, but Germany is getting too expensive for me, reducing the overall value of mongering there. I'm always picky with who I go with, but that's going to be even more so now during my next trip to Germany.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2867150]I will not take you up on that wager because I believe I will lose. If Sharks is crowded with men and they are happily paying 200/60 the girls will fancy their chances and will come together for 150/30 and 250/60 or as much as the men will continue to pay them.[/QUOTE]Most girls wait for business for hours. I'm pretty sure most make less money than past good girls who worked for 100/60 . Most of my weekly regulars told me they wanted to make 1000 when I paid 100/60 , I wonder how many at Sharks make 5000 on the week.