Chat Rooms & Pen Pals

It's too late to start lying to them about each other. I have been honest with all of them; they all know which cities I have other interests in. I have not however given them my full name in most cases., yet.

I cannot believe that a well written contract will not hold some weight in the courts there, but I could be mistaken, depending on if the family has connections and/or bribes the judge.

Maybe if I stay in a hotel and never let these friends into my room, that would help. But then, of course, I cannot sleep with any of them. Which is not all bad as these ladies are mostly friends at this point, not neccesarily women I am hot to trot with.

I will try to make it VERY clear that I have no intention of marrying certain friends to both them and their families. Maybe I will get rid of those who are only thinking of me as a permanent meal ticket/marriage.

I guess I have been naive about Filip. culture. But other than sneaking around and lying to everyone, I don't know how else to deal with shopping for the right woman. I am not against marriage, but I am very careful about vetting those that will make good long term marriage prospects and you cannot do that without spending time with many.

I have told all of them that I intend do visit more than one lady and then select from that. They have accepted that on the surface and continued to chat with me, but I don't think they have fully accepted it deep down-they are still hoping I will choose them. They have not shown any proclivity to pull some lame police or other aggressive action against me, but who knows what members of their family might do.

I guess this is rather selfish on my part, but how else do you sift through all the bad actors on DIA, etc in order to come up with someone you want something long term with?

[QUOTE=Tenchi]Contracts will mean nothing over there, especially for the foreign party.

You don't have to tell filipina A about filipina B, they'll never know unless you're careless with your cellphone or laptop around her. When I am chatting to two, and she's saying 'you busy?' implying who's the other girl, I just say I went to toilet or internets slow, a random 'is yahoo msg crashing on you?' comment adds to the believability

Don't give the impression you're the 'one-girl guy' from the start, and if you do but she still gets jealous and there are signs there might something sinister afoot, I would leave, seriously. Mind you, this has never happened to me, I usually end it before she gets ideas of meeting the parents and morning school runs... and with filipinas this starts 1 month into relationships I would say :o

The best defence in the situation you fear is to up sticks and leave. Trust me, you have no offence against dodgy police...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]It's too late to start lying to them about each other. I have been honest with all of them; they all know which cities I have other interests in. I have not however given them my full name in most cases., yet.

I cannot believe that a well written contract will not hold some weight in the courts there, but I could be mistaken, depending on if the family has connections and/or bribes the judge.

Maybe if I stay in a hotel and never let these friends into my room, that would help. But then, of course, I cannot sleep with any of them. Which is not all bad as these ladies are mostly friends at this point, not neccesarily women I am hot to trot with.

I will try to make it VERY clear that I have no intention of marrying certain friends to both them and their families. Maybe I will get rid of those who are only thinking of me as a permanent meal ticket/marriage.

I guess I have been naive about Filip. culture. But other than sneaking around and lying to everyone, I don't know how else to deal with shopping for the right woman. I am not against marriage, but I am very careful about vetting those that will make good long term marriage prospects and you cannot do that without spending time with many.

I have told all of them that I intend do visit more than one lady and then select from that. They have accepted that on the surface and continued to chat with me, but I don't think they have fully accepted it deep down-they are still hoping I will choose them. They have not shown any proclivity to pull some lame police or other aggressive action against me, but who knows what members of their family might do.

I guess this is rather selfish on my part, but how else do you sift through all the bad actors on DIA, etc in order to come up with someone you want something long term with?[/QUOTE]


The idea of relying on a legal contract in cases like this in the Philippines is laughable.

There are some girls who are (supposedly) saving their virginity for the man they are going to/will marry. Often this is just a BS story in the hope that you will take her more seriously , pay her more, give her an expensive gift etc. But I dare say in some cases it may be true, in which case you could end up upsetting the parents if you have been spinning some BS story just to get into her panties.

More generally the girls will be mature enough to know that most sensible guys will want to meet and "get to know" several girls before settling on a long term partner. Of course they will each be keen to make this set as exclusive as possible. Any sensible, non naive girl will also know that many western guys are merely using the possibly very remote chance that he may marry her as a carrot to get a higher quality girl/ lower cost / more enthusiastic performance than if he were being realistic with her. In some cases I think guys are being cynically duplicious, in others I suspect it's a matter of kidding himself as much as the girl.

[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]Seems they think that when I leave Filipina A to visit Filipina B that Filipina A and her family will do anything and everything to force me to marry her, including violence or having me deported as an "undesirable" character.[/QUOTE]Having you deported is little more than a threat. Its hard for locals to get the attention of (corrupt) immigration officials. Locals don't have money for bribes. Its not so easy to get deported (they have to find you, toss you in a craphole jail, have a hearing, etc). If it were the case of locals in the province having a foreign bf deported every time they got mad, there would be tens of thousands of these yearly, and we'd all stop going there. Relax.

[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]Seems they have an exaggerated idea of what brings shame on their family and what expectations they should have from visiting foreigners.[/QUOTE]Its not necessarily exaggerated to them, especially if they are provincial girls. There is a cultural difference here. There is (or can be) a real danger for a young provincial girl to have her first foreign boyfriend show up, spend time, then leave, without talk of marriage or another visit geared towards marriage. Even if she doesn't have sex with you, if she goes to your hotel for even a few hours, she will be seen by folks in her town as sleeping with you. If she was known prior to your visit as a virgin, she will have lost that reputation on your departure. This represents a minority of girls. Most are glad to spend time with you, and are more than willing to sleep with you. But for some, yes, they see the purpose of your visit as to solidify the relationship with her and her family to marry.

[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]Maybe having each Filipina sign a contract stating I am only visiting her and no promises of marriage have been made. Maybe I should record our chat sessions wherein I tell them there are no implied promises of marriage or my even staying with them beyond my short visit time.[/QUOTE]The contract, the recorded chat sessions, none of that will help. The contract may not be legally binding in the first place. Even if it was, it won't help. Its not that you are a foreigner and don't have rights (you do), but you have as few legal rights as citizens there (their legal rights are ignored also, just like yours will be). A girl having you sign a contract promising to marry her there would have the same legal recourse: not much.

[quote=westcoast1]its not so easy to get deported (they have to find you, toss you in a craphole jail, have a hearing, etc).[/quote]there is a well publicised case of an american military guy called daniel smith who picked up a drunk girl in subic had sex with her and she filed a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] charge case for which he spent 3 years in jail.. the conniving woman, after she already left philippines and settled her whoring ass with some sugar daddy in usa, has admitted the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] allegations were a fabricated crock. so be careful what you do, deportation may be a blessing compared to that ordeal.

[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/03/17/2009-03-17_filipino_who_accused_us_marine_daniel_sm-1.html[/url]

[quote=fast buck artist]there is a well publicised case of an american military guy called daniel smith who picked up a drunk girl in subic had sex with her and she filed a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] charge case for which he spent 3 years in jail.. the conniving woman, after she already left philippines and settled her whoring ass with some sugar daddy in usa, has admitted the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] allegations were a fabricated crock. so be careful what you do, deportation may be a blessing compared to that ordeal.

[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/03/17/2009-03-17_filipino_who_accused_us_marine_daniel_sm-1.html[/url][/quote]there is of course another version of the story, whereby the us government quietly waited 3 months till after the trial then speedily processed her us visa/residency application and thereafter she recanted her story once in possession of her papers as part of the deal.

no one hear knows what really happened. but whatever did, theres no disputing the fact that the sailor had sex in the back of the van with her, whilst his mates all watched then dumped her on the pavement so he wouldn't be late getting back to the ship.

really classy well bought up kid he was.

reply inline below:

[quote=westcoast1]having you deported is little more than a threat. its hard for locals to get the attention of (corrupt) immigration officials. locals don't have money for bribes. its not so easy to get deported (they have to find you, toss you in a craphole jail, have a hearing, etc). if it were the case of locals in the province having a foreign bf deported every time they got mad, there would be tens of thousands of these yearly, and we'd all stop going there. relax.

*ok, thanks for the info.

its not necessarily exaggerated to them, especially if they are provincial girls. there is a cultural difference here. there is (or can be) a real danger for a young provincial girl to have her first foreign boyfriend show up, spend time, then leave, without talk of marriage or another visit geared towards marriage. even if she doesn't have sex with you, if she goes to your hotel for even a few hours, she will be seen by folks in her town as sleeping with you. if she was known prior to your visit as a virgin, she will have lost that reputation on your departure. this represents a minority of girls. most are glad to spend time with you, and are more than willing to sleep with you. but for some, yes, they see the purpose of your visit as to solidify the relationship with her and her family to marry.

*guess i forgot to state they are all older, not chasing any virgins or similar.

the contract, the recorded chat sessions, none of that will help. the contract may not be legally binding in the first place. even if it was, it won't help. its not that you are a foreigner and don't have rights (you do), but you have as few legal rights as citizens there (their legal rights are ignored also, just like yours will be). a girl having you sign a contract promising to marry her there would have the same legal recourse: not much.[/quote]

*i think if a video tape of the lady showing that no promises were made and that any lies made by the family are not true might not be given weight by the authorities unless of course it were made public on the media, which is who i would send it too if false claims of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] arose. i know i am being a bit paranoid, but be prepared is my motto.

[quote=turdycurdyone]reply inline below:



*i think if a video tape of the lady showing that no promises were made and that any lies made by the family are not true might not be given weight by the authorities unless of course it were made public on the media, which is who i would send it too if false claims of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] arose. i know i am being a bit paranoid, but be prepared is my motto.[/quote]

best you avoid pi like the plague if you are as paranoid as this and lets more seasoned visitors like myself and those who live in pi handle the 'difficult' matter of virgins and pussy.

get a life and come to pi and have fun, if you worry about all these things even a massive v and c cocktail will not help you rise to the occasion :d

try thailand, cambodia, vietnam but clearly pi is not a place for someone who worries like you do...

You may be right. The Phil is a good country for exacerbating paranoia as there are so many bad things about the place. It's overpriced, highly corrupt with alot of scamming, hypocrisy and a disregard for poriners whose value only lasts as long as their money. Once you're money is gone, you're just an interloper who they would rather be rid of.

I once asked a smart Filipina why it is that Filipinos frequently elect someone with great enthusiasm and then turn around a few years later to riot and try to hang the same guy by his thumbs from the nearest utility pole. Her answer was that Filipinos only are loyal to you as long as your bringing home the bacon. Once that stops your just another bas*tard they need to get rid of.

Put your mind at ease Wicked Roger. No competition from me and I will not even impact your Viagra market as I don't need it. I rarely even chat with women under 35 years of age there. Perhaps I am stupid but I was hoping to find a good woman to marry there instead of arriving, blowing all my money on tourist pricing, booze, and sex with young girls only to have to return home to make money for my next trip as is the routine of most foreigners coming there.

I would rather be paranoid and cautious then wind up in a Phil. jail, have to pay bribes to pigs, or worse. In fact, those things usually happen to poriners who THINK they know the country and get too relaxed, usually under the influence of too much drink and their little heads doing all the thinking.

I will endeavor to put an end to this thread as the main purpose of this forum is trying to get laid without too much regard to long term consequences.


[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Best you avoid PI like the plague if you are as paranoid as this and lets more seasoned visitors like myself and those who live in PI handle the 'difficult' matter of virgins and pussy.

Get a life and come to PI and have fun, if you worry about all these things even a massive V and C cocktail will not help you rise to the occasion :D

Try Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam but clearly PI is not a place for someone who worries like you do...[/QUOTE]

[quote=turdycurdyone]i would rather be paranoid and cautious then wind up in a phil. jail, have to pay bribes to pigs, or worse. in fact, those things usually happen to poriners who think they know the country and get too relaxed, usually under the influence of too much drink and their little heads doing all the thinking.[/quote]while such occurences are rare, i have known personally several foreigners who ended up in a filipino prison without much trial or due process, so taking some precautions is certainly a good idea.

you need a trustworthy lawyer or a friend familiar with filipino justice system who can come to your rescue if you get locked up. while you are inside your ability to help yourself is very limited so you will really need outside help. you should also have an emergency fund of 50,000 pesos put aside for bail/bribes/getting help.

and most importantly, dont stir up trouble.

- dont get caught with **** women or in a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] type situation
- dont get into fights, concealed weapons are common here, from flick knives to handguns
- dont get involved in politics, land disputes or any of the local squabbles for power
- avoid the police, and bribe them if they pick on you, for minor offenses 200 pesos should do, going up depending on the transgression committed

[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]

Put your mind at ease Wicked Roger. No competition from me and I will not even impact your Viagra market as I don't need it. I rarely even chat with women under 35 years of age there.

instead of arriving, blowing all my money on tourist pricing, booze, and sex with young girls only to have to return home to make money for my next trip as is the routine of most foreigners coming there.

[/QUOTE]
TC

That is exactly what I do :)....blow my cash but not on booze just cuties and then return home and do it all again as soon as possible :D Good that you go the over 35s as leaves the young cuties to me and others ....yummy

Marrying and finding a wife....lots of chatter on this but take your time, enjoy the variety beofre you chose...try and make sure she is kinky, not jealous, likes to be naughty etc ...well that is my advice :) Many ignore it for some reason :(

This trip has made me even more convinced that if some guy wants to get married, the PI is the place to find a wife. I have never seen so many girls groomed to get married to anything as long as the utang is sent every month. For someone who doesn't care much about intellectual conversation, but is happy having a cutie who lives to do housework and have kids, this is the place to find the perfect wife. I used to think that Peruvian chicas would make the best wives, but the Pinays have them beat, IMHO.

Not that I'm considering getting married, but I don't live in sex prison U.S.A. either.

Check out miss fem20 on DIA, sounds like one for you pervs

Hug me I'll show you happy on bed

I'm naughty

I want to meet a Male

With age from 20 to 50

And I want to meet for Friendship, Romance, Marriage or Other.

I want hard all time

I never go over 22 normally, but I'll be damned if I did not have myself both a 28 year old and a 30 year old this trip. Both upper class with their own car, etc. Nice to have an intellectual exchange, but not to be confused with being better than the defloration of a tight 19 year old. Just different. These older girls in general seem more open to experimenting with getting cum shot up their ass as well as their fanny.

[QUOTE=Barba]I never go over 22 normally, but I'll be damned if I did not have myself both a 28 year old and a 30 year old this trip. Both upper class with their own car, etc. Nice to have an intellectual exchange, but not to be confused with being better than the defloration of a tight 19 year old. Just different. These older girls in general seem more open to experimenting with getting cum shot up their ass as well as their fanny.[/QUOTE]

Barba

I just stick witt the first sentence and never have trouble getting the girls to experiment...must be the way I smile at them :D Or the fact I look harmless and conservative when we meet ;) Unlike a few monger I know......

Sorry we missed each other hopefully soon we will have the same schedules

Well she sounds very agressive on DIA, maybe her profile is too well written so read it carefully as some are written by the boyfriend/toerag/a**hole etc depending on the relationship

Maybe a tad chubby for some of you wimps out there (Bopalula springs to mind?) but if you are submissive then I doubt you care :D

hot_openminded_woman is the ID

Let us all know if you sample......;)