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[QUOTE=Enphl;2875945]We'll have to agree to disagree on the first point, (that you are more likely to meet someone who is not "PC" in a FKK / brothel (ie FKK Palace) as compared to a "classy establishment" (ie. Buckingham Palace).[/QUOTE]Really? I [B]cannot[/B] believe you just went there! Seems you don't follow the news my friend. Buckingham Palace "classy" on the matter? Not!
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbtDybAjXAI[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Adindas;2875948]If you happen to be an Middle age East/South East Asians, you're often perceived as a lucrative target by the sharks, attracting opportunists aiming to exploit you for monetary gain. The question arises: who perpetuates this stereotype? Blame all of that to the predecessors who create this perception thinking they are in Tokyo, Singapore, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Macau, Seoul etc, willing to pay whatever they have been asked to pay. These are the type of people who actually ruin the market. For them it is not a problem as it is only a one off occasion or even once in a lifetime..[/QUOTE]Economically speaking, they are not "ruining the market". In normal free market, it's quite natural that rich buyer pay more than poor buyer, and popular girl get paid more than less popular girl. Supply and Demand determine the price. The fixed price system at low price (50 E /30 mins) for all girls and all men is anti-market and socialism price system. Of course, I prefer 50 E /30 m, but I am also a free market supporter.
Generally speaking, Sharks is a decent club. I met many Asians friends each time I visited. Overall they enjoyed their experience in Sharks. Some of them might have complaints but most likely related to communication issues with girls or surcharges. None of them were related to so called "racism".
Years ago in 2018 on a Sunday afternoon, I saw front desk lady yelled to a Japanese guy. The guy seemed to speak poor English so front desk woman tried to bully him and told him no way to find a parking if parking lot was full. I then tried to help this Japanese to find a parking space closed to Aldi and walked back to club. This was only one case I saw that club employee was rude to customers.
[QUOTE=David1266;2875985]Economically speaking, they are not "ruining the market". In normal free market, it's quite natural that rich buyer pay more than poor buyer, and popular girl get paid more than less popular girl. Supply and Demand determine the price. The fixed price system at low price (50 E /30 mins) for all girls and all men is anti-market and socialism price system. Of course, I prefer 50 E /30 m, but I am also a free market supporter.[/QUOTE]No, it's not normal for a rich buyer to pay more for the same good or service, where did you receive your education?
While I'm a free market capitalist, setting a price at the club for the girls is not anti-market or socialist.
If the girls had no options to work at other clubs, and all the clubs set the same price, which they didn't, then there would be (some) anti-market practices and certainly not socialist type rules. Under a socialist type system the club would have taken pay from girls who worked and then redistributed it to other girls that didn't work as much! Or charged one punter more for the same service and then redistributed some of that payment to another man to subsidize his service.
But that's the farthest from the truth, the girls were paid by the men directly and worked at many clubs that charged less and lots of clubs that charged more! That still applies today to clubs around Frankfurt that want $100 and many in NRW that still charge $50.
Some examples: Artemis was $60/30 min, lots of clubs in NRW were $30-40/30 min and clubs in Zurich like Globe charged almost $100/30 min.
Furthermore, setting a standard rate of $50 is fair market competition, not anti-market practices as men will shop around for the cheapest prices, in many cases, but not all. This would be like buying a BMW at different dealerships. All the dealerships are competing for your business and you'll eventually buy from the dealer that has the best price! Or buying a Macbook at the store that has the best deal. Your buying sex as a service and it's the same regardless of where you go. If the girl is prettier than another she has the right to work at Globe and earn $150/30 min instead of $100 at another club or $50 from another.
[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2876053]No, it's not normal for a rich buyer to pay more for the same good or service, where did you receive your education?
While I'm a free market capitalist, setting a price at the club for the girls is not anti-market or socialist.
If the girls had no options to work at other clubs, and all the clubs set the same price, which they didn't, then there would be (some) anti-market practices and certainly not socialist type rules. Under a socialist type system the club would have taken pay from girls who worked and then redistributed it to other girls that didn't work as much! Or charged one punter more for the same service and then redistributed some of that payment to another man to subsidize his service.
But that's the farthest from the truth, the girls were paid by the men directly and worked at many clubs that charged less and lots of clubs that charged more! That still applies today to clubs around Frankfurt that want $100 and many in NRW that still charge $50.
Some examples: Artemis was $60/30 min, lots of clubs in NRW were $30-40/30 min and clubs in Zurich like Globe charged almost $100/30 min.
Furthermore, setting a standard rate of $50 is fair market competition, not anti-market practices as men will shop around for the cheapest prices, in many cases, but not all. This would be like buying a BMW at different dealerships. All the dealerships are competing for your business and you'll eventually buy from the dealer that has the best price! Or buying a Macbook at the store that has the best deal. Your buying sex as a service and it's the same regardless of where you go. If the girl is prettier than another she has the right to work at Globe and earn $150/30 min instead of $100 at another club or $50 from another.[/QUOTE]Some think expensive mean quality, so they feel better paying expensive, when at Sharks now and Globe since a while, You pay more expensive for lower quality for girls, when again today I paid 150/60 for real GFE with a woman look who wanted to please me to make me return and choose her as number 1 like til June when everybody at GG told: You only go with Valeria. Same like new Audi now which are expensive but shit with Asian electronics, so I preferred to buy the original S5 with V8 from 2008 , but not enough for my standard for quality, so I improved a lot with race techniques and programmed for french E85 to save planet, when Audi make shit to fight vs pollution, but they would not be able to do, when I drove more in less than 1 year than owners before me in 14 years. Each one own standard for quality.
[QUOTE=Enphl;2874758]Wow, if we only had a floorplan, we'd have a nice map.[/QUOTE]I tried to upload a map, but it was deleted by admin. So I write text. This is the latest version.
TOP QUALITY GIRLS* (Optics, not sex skill, judged by multiple people).
Katalea / Catalea (Sitting at bar, the opposite end from entrance, near Alina / Sabrina / Lora, one of the most popular post-COVID girls).
Kitty (RO, early 20's, white skin / big lip, near center of shark, L-shape couch facing the bar, between the bar and fish tank, near Vanessa, less popular in 2023, available most of the times).
Maria (Real Ukrainian, early 20's, location not clear but probably near the bar).
Above-Average Girls.
Alina / Sabrina (RO, 30+, left side of stairs to jacuzzi, near TV screen);.
Bibi (near the pole dance stage which is on the right side of the bar, near the front stairs, looking from the entrance);.
Brenda (between the restaurant and the bar, Left side of the bar, looking from the entrance);.
Camilla (near the pole dance stage which is on the right side of the bar, near the front stairs, looking from the entrance).
Cami (Kami) and Sirin (back of the bar looking from the entrance, near Katalea, often playing poker table, near TV display and back stairs).
Lora (RO, left side of stairs to jacuzzi, near TV screen, around 20, petite, poor English).
Kloe (near stairs);.
Maxima (FR) unknown. Works only short term on August);.
Roxy ("Miss Sharks 2022" by Siri, couch under Fish tank);.
Sofi or Sophie (DE, 30+, unknown location);.
Vanessa, Mara (same location as Kitty);.
Other girls.
Lara (35-40, German, most slim among MILF, blonde / blue eyes, huge skeleton tattoo on back, sitting at bar near the entrance "MILF" section).
Melanie / Emma (late 20's, Ro, at bar near the entrance, Asian hunters, Melanie with eyeglasses, Emma blonde).
Zaira or Xaira (early 20's, peptite white skin type, not so friendly, Sitting at bar near Katalea).
Sophia / Sofia (sitting at bar near Zaira / Victoria, Macedonian, blonde / blue eye, late 20's).
Victoria (sitting next to Zaira / Sofia, blonde, Czech).
Adriana / Lorena / Teodora (couch under aquarium).
[QUOTE=David1266;2876261]I tried to upload a map, but it was deleted by admin. So I write text. This is the latest version.
TOP QUALITY GIRLS* (Optics, not sex skill, judged by multiple people).
Katalea / Catalea (Sitting at bar, the opposite end from entrance, near Alina / Sabrina / Lora, one of the most popular post-COVID girls).
Kitty (RO, early 20's, white skin / big lip, near center of shark, L-shape couch facing the bar, between the bar and fish tank, near Vanessa, less popular in 2023, available most of the times).
Maria (Real Ukrainian, early 20's, location not clear but probably near the bar).
Above-Average Girls.
Alina / Sabrina (RO, 30+, left side of stairs to jacuzzi, near TV screen);.
Bibi (near the pole dance stage which is on the right side of the bar, near the front stairs, looking from the entrance);.[/QUOTE]Roxi was elected Miss Sharks 2022 by other forum, not by me when I was never with her since I see her before covid. When you see election, seem really not many rank Kity or Bibi as topgirls, when only a look with not much elegance don't worth 200/60 for others than Asian tourists.
Does anybody know if Bibi is still in Sharks or did she already leave for Christmas holidays?
I had very nice rooms with her, although licking and kissing is not possible. But she is really sweet.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2876197]Some think expensive mean quality, so they feel better paying expensive, when at Sharks now and Globe since a while, You pay more expensive for lower quality for girls.....[/QUOTE]There are destinations in which can be found girls who are as good physically as FKK girls and in some cases better. That being said from my experience the German FKKs have the greatest percentage of hot girls compared to other places. However, I think FKKs have priced themselves beyond the realm of reasonable expenditure. I can find girls as hot as FKK girls in Mexico, Colombia and Brazil. For me ethnicity has nothing to do with beauty. If a girl has a pretty face and a shapely, fit and clean body she is hot in my book whatever her ethnicity. In that regard I will choose cheaper destinations in Latin America over Germany.
[QUOTE=Toto001;2876387]Does anybody know if Bibi is still in Sharks or did she already leave for Christmas holidays?
I had very nice rooms with her, although licking and kissing is not possible. But she is really sweet.[/QUOTE]Did DATY her on my 150 € I only paid for her low level for around 70 mn trying to get something on woman level from her. Impressive growing pointing hardening nipples for her body reaction was the only interesting, more impressive than hardening Katalea nipples. Angel smile and superb naturals, but not enough to repeat so low level. Even Kity is higher level.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2876435]There are destinations in which can be found girls who are as good physically as FKK girls and in some cases better. That being said from my experience the German FKKs have the greatest percentage of hot girls compared to other places. However, I think FKKs have priced themselves beyond the realm of reasonable expenditure. I can find girls as hot as FKK girls in Mexico, Colombia and Brazil. For me ethnicity has nothing to do with beauty. If a girl has a pretty face and a shapely, fit and clean body she is hot in my book whatever her ethnicity. In that regard I will choose cheaper destinations in Latin America over Germany.[/QUOTE]When Sharks is turning to fuck tourist behavior, but can still find really high level in Germany for 150 for 1 hour which is quite short for my game when I m not a rabbit. I m not into Latinas nor Black, but when I won t be anymore able to free ride I look forward for my Christmas nor to climb legends and I look forward Gavia and Zoncolan on 2024 , then I wish Putin will be over and will still be powerful to go to practice my Russian in cold Irkousk and Ekaterinburg where fire is under ice when You know a bit these prettiest women in the world. I m pretty sure if no Putin and I could go, I would easily manage for 1000 for 1 month with a Siberian beauty, in deep places where only speaking Russian, when Russians are even worst than French for english. Maybe one day I will return to land of beauties and they are very good for my GFE, really kissing like in love when You started their inside fire. Not same than professionnals in Dubaï , when we lost them since Amour Russe, Charme Russe, Sexy Lady 4 U, YDG, Star escorts, Russian girls 4 me and Aphrodite before, in Paris where I got so many, being their first ever client for some.
[QUOTE=David1266;2876261]I tried to upload a map, but it was deleted by admin. So I write text. This is the latest version.
20, petite, poor English)
Maxima (FR) unknown. Works only short term on August);.
[/QUOTE]While to my knowledge she doesn't sit somewhere in particular, when not doing the rounds she stands at the top of the stairs looking down.
[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2876720]I've never heard someone in the USA Refer to themselves as Chinese American. That sounds like someone outside the USA.[/QUOTE]Well being an American myself, I'm here to tell you that there's absolutely nothing unusual or "suspect" about that at all. Except for Native Americans, we're all considered to have come here from somewhere else. So, we're always within our own country describing ourselves as Chinese-American, Irish-American, Italian-American, African-American, Jewish-American, etc. That's a standard, regular part of American life, and a very "American way" to describe oneself. And when I say "American", I refer specifically to people from the United States. That said, when we travel abroad or present ourselves to the broader world, we normally just say we are "American". In my extensive travels abroad, I've found that so many people have false impressions and misunderstandings about American life and people, and who and what we are, undoubtedly some of that being caused by Americans themselves. But for you to say, "That sounds like someone outside the USA. ", demonstrates that you don't understand, for to an American that sounds [B]exactly[/B] like something an American would say about themselves. Just setting the record straight.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2875938] Each time these girls said what they said (one a gypsy looking Bulgarian and one a blonde Moldovan), they actually had approached me and wanted to fuck, so it was clear they weren't trying to be offensive. But they were in fact being very offensive per my American culture.[/QUOTE]It's been written about at almost every FKK club. If you see a group of Asians in a FKK the girls will go up to them and be aggressive. 1) they can usually get someone in a group to say yes-often via group encouragement and 2) and reviewers have quoted being charged higher prices.
Like you said, maybe their tone or words appear offensive but the sales technique works. And not just Sharks. There's a similar story on so many FKK forums on this board if you look back far enough. If you don't like it. Move on to the next girl or don't come back. Or use "TheCane" technique as he describes in his post.
It seems there is no Christmas party until December 24-26. Whoever has time to go there during the period.
Sharks party used to hold at 2nd weekend in December before Covid.