[QUOTE=BarryManila;2879329]Sorry, but she will be too bored with you, 9 hours with just one man.[/QUOTE]Is Maria (Ukraine) still working in Shark? What is her schedule looks like? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=BarryManila;2879329]Sorry, but she will be too bored with you, 9 hours with just one man.[/QUOTE]Is Maria (Ukraine) still working in Shark? What is her schedule looks like? Thanks.
[QUOTE=EuroTravel1234;2879685]Is Maria (Ukraine) still working in Shark? What is her schedule looks like? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I Never found her this month. Maybe she has so many appointments and all booked and very difficult to find. But another Ukrainian top girl at Oase, Nadia whom Siri always recommend will work through Christmas and new year so you should visit OASE. (Strictly speaking she is an ethnic Ukrainian who resides in Moldova, not a pure Ukrainian immigrant like Maria).
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Imagine there are people like you, thinking top looking girls desserve 250/ h and are ready to pay this.
Then other girls will[/QUOTE]Do you really understand number or English?
Please open your eyes to read what I said in my post.
I said top attractive young girls deserve 200/60.
You misinterpreted as 250/ h ，which Only the illiterate who doesn't recognize numbers could do that.
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2879349]I've reiterated this countless times: the 200/60 rate is only to the most attractive young girls. Approximately around 10% girls inside club deserve that. But there are always ones who deliberately misinterpret my point and consider I overpaying all the girls[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=David1266;2879695]I Never found her this month. Maybe she has so many appointments and all booked and very difficult to find. But another Ukrainian top girl at Oase, Nadia whom Siri always recommend will work through Christmas and new year so you should visit OASE. (Strictly speaking she is an ethnic Ukrainian who resides in Moldova, not a pure Ukrainian immigrant like Maria).[/QUOTE]Maria is real Ukrainian. Nadia Oase would be one of the prettiest at Sharks, but she doesn't speak Russian, but Romanian.
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2879738]Do you really understand number or English?
Please open your eyes to read what I said in my post.
I said top attractive young girls deserve 200/60.
You misinterpreted as 250/ h ，which Only the illiterate who doesn't recognize numbers could do that.[/QUOTE]When German escorts can be for less than 200/60 when they know You and your way, why do You want to pay same or more expensive for lower quality like Katalea, Kity, Bibi / Samira who can t compete with escort level. Just your choice to pay more expensive for a dacia than for a Audi. In many of your writings, You write girls deserve more expensive and even at Gold, but a dacia will never reach 300 , which is reason I bought Venus8 . You don t know German business so You can t compare quality. If one day, You can touch Maria I got twice, You may start to understand to compare quality, when she is not even my best quality in Germany, when Sharks girls are not on highest level in Germany. Most expensive don t mean highest quality, Globe is proof.
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2879738]Do you really understand number or English?
I said top attractive young girls deserve 200/60.
You misinterpreted as 250/ h ，which Only the illiterate who doesn't recognize numbers could do that.[/QUOTE]I said, when it was 150€/ h, you paying some girls (your top girls) 200€/ h.
Which is not good for the market.
Because these girls tasted blood and stuck with the price.
Then the other girls followed.
And that's why the price now for the top girls are 250€/ h.
And 200€/ h for the other girls.
[QUOTE=Bonsai;2879997]I said, when it was 150/ h, you paying some girls (your top girls) 200/ h.
Which is not good for the market.
Because these girls tasted blood and stuck with the price.
Then the other girls followed.
And that's why the price now for the top girls are 250/ h.
And 200/ h for the other girls.[/QUOTE]He always wrote and not only at Sharks, he likes to pay girls he likes more expensive than usual rate. Some Germans also pay crazy rate. When You know a bit the business, then You know most Romanians unfortunately fell for quality and You can compare quality, when topgirls for him are not always wow looks, I never noticed some, I would not pay for some and mostly low level for sex for Caucasians.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2879000]You arrived 2 years too late for Katalea and pay more expensive than those who got her freshness on her first 2 weeks at Sharks when she didn't need heavy make up. I would not pay for Lola, not pretty enough for me. Natalia at Gold has average teeth and low level for sex.[/QUOTE]Not too late for Catelea. She is just 22 yo still very young skinny white and pretty. Yes, she is more expensive than before. She charges everyone in same price rate 200/60. So it might be not affordable for you since you are only able to pay 150/60.
I recently fall in love with Stacy. She looks very decent.
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2879738]Do you really understand number or English?
Please open your eyes to read what I said in my post.
I said top attractive young girls deserve 200/60.
You misinterpreted as 250/ h ，which Only the illiterate who doesn't recognize numbers could do that.[/QUOTE]The mentality here clearly comes from someone who undermines the FKK concept. Even the idea of normalizing 200/ HR to any girl in an FKK is already absurd. Like others said, the 200/ HR or above pricing belongs in the outcall scene, not at an FKK where the point is high volume. The fact that one hour at an FKK costs the same as one hour as a private outcall visit is illogical. It's why Sharks has become a tourist trap for 2 pump chumps and is not really an FKK anymore.
That price point inherently undermines the concept of FKKs, sex in volume. It's clearly evident as the number of rooms being taken have declined and the number of 1 hour rooms taken declined even more. That's evident by the fact that room waits are nonexistent these days. Weekend club attendance is pretty good, but off peak day attendance is comparatively weaker than before. This tells me that Sharks attendance now skews even more heavily toward tourists and weekend party guys, not locals or guys trying to fuck.
And like another poster said, guys who normalized the 200/ HR price is why we're now seeing 250/ HR.
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2880123]Not too late for Catelea. She is just 22 yo still very young skinny white and pretty. Yes, she is more expensive than before. She charges everyone in same price rate 200/60. So it might be not affordable for you since you are only able to pay 150/60.
I recently fall in love with Stacy. She looks very decent.[/QUOTE]I paid on more than 10 rooms Lora. FR 200/60 , when she asked 150 for 30 , but she was higher GFE than Katalea and french educated. Katalea level for sex don t worth 200/60 for me and she has mostly 30 mn rooms, but I m not interested by 30 mn room. I only rush when average like with Kity.
[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2880152]The mentality here clearly comes from someone who undermines the FKK concept. Even the idea of normalizing 200/ HR to any girl in an FKK is already absurd. Like others said, the 200/ HR or above pricing belongs in the outcall scene, not at an FKK where the point is high volume. The fact that one hour at an FKK costs the same as one hour as a private outcall visit is illogical. It's why Sharks has become a tourist trap for 2 pump chumps and is not really an FKK anymore.
That price point inherently undermines the concept of FKKs, sex in volume. It's clearly evident as the number of rooms being taken have declined and the number of 1 hour rooms taken declined even more. That's evident by the fact that room waits are nonexistent these days. Weekend club attendance is pretty good, but off peak day attendance is comparatively weaker than before. This tells me that Sharks attendance now skews even more heavily toward tourists and weekend party guys, not locals or guys trying to fuck.
And like another poster said, guys who normalized the 200/ HR price is why we're now seeing 250/ HR.[/QUOTE]With rate they ask, many girls have slow business, even on Saturday and party. I wonder if most didn t make more money when they were for 50 per 30 . Funny, ranked as top here are not in election final.
Well, some guys (Sirioja or others) are lucky and always get 150/60 deal. Good for you.
I am not as lucky as you guys. Almost all girls (except few) quota me 200/60. And not negotiable.
Then what could I do? Yes I Walk away, if girls are not my favorite types, (or too old or too mature, even if Sirioja like, but I don't).
So if ugly or regular girls quote you 200/60 or 100/30, then not go with them. If you still want to go with them, then it is your own problem.
However, If the girls are Catelea, Ariana, Maria, Sophie (de), Bibi, Claudia, Stacy, Lola, Roberta, Simona, etc. , I'm unable to decline. I must either accept the quoted rate of 200/60 or propose longer sessions (2-3 hours) for a reduced rate. Some girls agree, while others still adhere to the 200/60 rate.
You guys have a magic trick to reduce prices and pay less to those girls than I do. [B] Good for you again. [/B]You've already gained an advantage, so why complain? Are you altruists or egoists?
[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2880152]The mentality here clearly comes from someone who undermines the FKK concept..[/QUOTE]From your post, it appears that [B]you hold the view that all girls are homogeneous. [/B]It seems you may overlook the fact that [B]different girls can have varying prices and appeal[/B]. Your use of the term "normalize" suggests a uniformity, akin to treating them as if they were all the same (like AI robots).
Not that case。.
Top young beauties (at most 10-20 girls at Sharks) deserve 200/60. I mentioned countless times.
However, for most of average and below average girls (account for 80% girls population) at Shark club, I would not take them even at 100/60 or 50/30 rate. They could still survive and quote 100/30 200/60 because they have their own regular customers to pay them.
As some customers who claim to always go for their regulars girls only.
[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2878394]I'll surely stop coming when my regulars are all gone.[/QUOTE]So average girls quote 200/60 are not my fault. It is because their regulars customers indulge these girls, keep these girls in business and hike the price.
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2880123]Not too late for Catelea. She is just 22 yo still very young skinny white and pretty. Yes, she is more expensive than before. She charges everyone in same price rate 200/60. So it might be not affordable for you since you are only able to pay 150/60.
I recently fall in love with Stacy. She looks very decent.[/QUOTE]She is called the Catalea subway express because we ran a train through her. You can have her we are done. She's a train wreck and you're living in embarrassment and denial. Laughing my ass off.
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2880264]From your post, it appears that [B]you hold the view that all girls are homogeneous. [/B]It seems you may overlook the fact that [B]different girls can have varying prices and appeal[/B]. Your use of the term "normalize" suggests a uniformity, akin to treating them as if they were all the same (like AI robots).
Not that case。.
Top young beauties (at most 10-20 girls at Sharks) deserve 200/60. I mentioned countless times.
However, for most of average and below average girls (account for 80% girls population) at Shark club, I would not take them even at 100/60 or 50/30 rate. They could still survive and quote 100/30 200/60 because they have their own regular customers to pay them.
As some customers who claim to always go for their regulars girls only.
So average girls quote 200/60 are not my fault. It is because their regulars customers indulge these girls, keep these girls in business and hike the price.[/QUOTE]It is possible that you may not be aware of the FKK concept as your views seem to disregard some essential principles of an FKK sauna club.
These are not my personal views; but rather, they are inherent concepts of [B]German FKKs[/B]: standardized pricing for all girls regardless of the subjectivity of "top girl" and bulk fucking many girls in volume. So not only does the normalization of a price point that prevents volume fucking undermine the FKK concept, normalizing variable pricing is also against the FKK concept.
As others have said, it does not matter that a monger justifies higher prices by claiming that a girl is a "top young girl. " The monger who pays higher prices is actively involved in raising prices from other girls as girls work in unison to raise prices. Pay one hot girl a higher rate, her mediocre friend will ask for the higher rate. Girls watch each other and pressure others into higher pricing. I took a massage from one girl, just a massage, and paid her 50 euro. On payment, she requested that I discreetly give her the 50 e so others could not see the small amount. This should tell you how price gouging works.
Your 200 e payment to a "top optic" promotes the entire price gouge scene. Like you, another poster has previously stated, "not all girls are worth the same rate. " That too undermines the German FKK concept. The idea of only fucking one girl during a visit undermines the FKK concept. Common thread: foreign mongers not respecting local concepts.
It's Germany, frugality and standardization are cultural norms embedded into the FKK Sauna Club concept. Locals respond by mostly only taking half hour rooms for 100 euro and many have stopped visiting altogether, already unfortunate.
Unfortunately many foreign mongers mess up a good thing by gleefully giving extortion level payments for service levels that are not even guaranteed to be acceptable. People can do whatever they choose but let's not fool ourselves by turning a blind eye to being part of the problem of the disappearing FKK concepts orchestrated by Romanian girls price gouging low volume fuckers.