Rio de Janeiro Reports

I agree that this is excellent info. Should be made a sticky. One thing I would recommend: avoid the online sites with photos, reality is NEVER like in the pictures, even with the more reliable ones (barravips etc.). I had several tries with photoacompanhantes and all were a failure. I think this is where only trash is offered. Try termas, Mabs or prives instead. And please, please stop completely overpaying those hoes (I must say this goes out especially to our american friends). I read here someone gave a garota 1500. That is absolutely nuts. Even the 600-700 most chicks from the sites demand are a joke. 300 used to be the going rate at Copa if you are not an ugly, fat, old bastard. Lets factor in inflation, maybe 400 now, I give you that. But NEVER 700-1000. Please stop! It is nice that you have so much money, but you are ruining it for everybody. Just yesterday I had an intense fucking session with a drop dead gorgeous 22 year old from Minas in Perola Negra. 10 body and 7-8 face. Damage done: 350 plus entrance and a drink for the lady. Yes its out there gents, you just have to look.

[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2908790]Complete Idiot's Guide to Copacabana.

Arrival at GIG airport:

Use the app to find the Uber pickup spot. It has pictures of the 5 minute walk from the airport to the pickup area. Basically, from the international arrival area, you go to the area marked "domestic arrivals" and then exit the building and turn left. You walk along the sidewalk towards the "administration" building and you will see a walkway with a big Uber arched sign over the walkway with different "colored" areas for pickup. I went to the "orange" area and requested a ride. Cost from GIG to Copacabana was 70 reals or $14 US. There were clusters of ATMs on the arrival floor and also up the stairs. Literally none of the ATMs would work with one of my cards. Thankfully, I had a backup card that worked fine.

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[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2909454]That is the mineira. If anyone sees her in sp send her back to Rio.

She was in club 74 downtown but I missed her.

QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2909311]We headed to Perola Negra a few years ago, you fucked the hot negra, and I took the mineira, who by the way was back, but she went to SP.[/QUOTE]She fine, face and bod. I need to get back to Brazil.

[QUOTE=Filho;2909583]I agree that this is excellent info. Should be made a sticky. One thing I would recommend: avoid the online sites with photos, reality is NEVER like in the pictures, even with the more reliable ones (barravips etc.). I had several tries with photoacompanhantes and all were a failure. I think this is where only trash is offered. Try termas, Mabs or prives instead. And please, please stop completely overpaying those hoes (I must say this goes out especially to our american friends). I read here someone gave a garota 1500. That is absolutely nuts. Even the 600-700 most chicks from the sites demand are a joke. 300 used to be the going rate at Copa if you are not an ugly, fat, old bastard. Lets factor in inflation, maybe 400 now, I give you that. But NEVER 700-1000. Please stop! It is nice that you have so much money, but you are ruining it for everybody. Just yesterday I had an intense fucking session with a drop dead gorgeous 22 year old from Minas in Perola Negra. 10 body and 7-8 face. Damage done: 350 plus entrance and a drink for the lady. Yes its out there gents, you just have to look.[/QUOTE]Once in a while when I see a good comment I like to give kudos!

Well said! This is Gold and hope some of y'all dumb mfrs learn.

I'm not one of the guys on here who's going to cry saying stop ruinning the game by overpaying LOL, but I can understand why many say it. Like for ex I'd love stick around in Rio for months but shiiit bro's already thinking and booking the next stop. So ruin it LOL. I agree that paying anything over 500 r is nuts. Lots of reports here about spending 1000-1500 r on a single fuck. Like wtf? But now that I'm here I realize that oh these girls are sharp as fuck. And personally I think one should use his or her intelligence to get ahead in life. Meaning I don't blame the garotas at all. A couple sharks tried me few days ago. Basically when you step in these termas, especially new and a fresh fish, they'll quote you an upgraded room at first for the hourly instead of the 30/40 min that many have or standard room. So I had to learn that.

Also in mongering lately many no longer discuss CPF / Cost per Fuck. This shit really matters. I used to read on average 200/250 USD (incl flight / stay) as a commonly agreed amt in mult forums. But now mfrs especially here in rio you're seeing 1000/1500 r 200/250 USD in termas, plus adding flight, hotels / Airbnb you're easily at 500 USD cpf. For this amount you might as well stay home using legal bunny ranch brothels in Vegas and pay even less or a trip to Miami and find girls at 200 USd easily. Nothing to brag about oh I fucked x amt of girls in Brazil LOL. Mofo you spent $500 per fuck dumb ass.

Mr E, a vet here who has my respect always says no such thing as high end pussy, only high mileage LOL. Dude's fucking hilarious on this topic. And it is true. Your paying extra for the make up, her dress, and high mileage pussy. I have money, no brag but I do. But I will spend extra on nonpros which I do hunt hard on SA or in person. Harder here since I speak no fucking porto LOL. Like you ain't fucking 10 dudes a day nor work in a brothel, you don't watch the clock with me, spend the night etc. Then yeah budget is unlimited cause that's an actual friendship and relationship. But for wg cpf matters man.

[QUOTE=Filho;2909579]Are you out of your fucking mind? 300-400 is the going rate. Or are you speaking of over night.[/QUOTE]300-400? Where are you finding these women?

CPF Cost Per Fuck should be as low as possible.

I agree completely!

Your cost per fuck should be as low as possible. You calibrate your CPF by centro prive or tijuca prive pussy.

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[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2909618]Once in a while when I see a good comment I like to give kudos!

Well said! This is Gold and hope some of y'all dumb mfrs learn.

I'm not one of the guys on here who's going to cry saying stop ruinning the game by overpaying LOL, but I can understand why many say it. Like for ex I'd love stick around in Rio for months but shiiit bro's already thinking and booking the next stop. So ruin it LOL. I agree that paying anything over 500 r is nuts. Lots of reports here about spending 1000-1500 r on a single fuck. Like wtf? But now that I'm here I realize that oh these girls are sharp as fuck. And personally I think one should use his or her intelligence to get ahead in life. Meaning I don't blame the garotas at all. A couple sharks tried me few days ago. Basically when you step in these termas, especially new and a fresh fish, they'll quote you an upgraded room at first for the hourly instead of the 30/40 min that many have or standard room. So I had to learn that.

Also in mongering lately many no longer discuss CPF / Cost per Fuck. This shit really matters. I used to read on average 200/250 USD (incl flight / stay) as a commonly agreed amt in mult forums. But now mfrs especially here in rio you're seeing 1000/1500 r 200/250 USD in termas, plus adding flight, hotels / Airbnb you're easily at 500 USD cpf. For this amount you might as well stay home using legal bunny ranch brothels in Vegas and pay even less or a trip to Miami and find girls at 200 USd easily. Nothing to brag about oh I fucked x amt of girls in Brazil LOL. Mofo you spent $500 per fuck dumb ass.

Mr E, a vet here who has my respect always says no such thing as high end pussy, only high mileage LOL. Dude's fucking hilarious on this topic. And it is true. Your paying extra for the make up, her dress, and high mileage pussy. I have money, no brag but I do. But I will spend extra on nonpros which I do hunt hard on SA or in person. Harder here since I speak no fucking porto LOL. Like you ain't fucking 10 dudes a day nor work in a brothel, you don't watch the clock with me, spend the night etc. Then yeah budget is unlimited cause that's an actual friendship and relationship. But for wg cpf matters man.[/QUOTE]

Did you even bother to read at shinycrazy's post? It is all laid out there. Prive girls are less than 200 for short time, Perola Negra is 350,4 x4 around 300 if I remember correctly. And that is in a safe environment for the girls which means they have to give at least half of it to the establishment. So the Mabs rate of 300-400 is already pretty high. Of course, as said, if you want special treatment, all night etc. And if you are an ugly bastard, its different. Still it should NEVER be 1000 for short time. Let them hoes ask what they want but just don't give it to them. Also don't think that just because they ask these prices many other people will pay them. These girl often have no business sense at all and will rather go home unfucked that lower their price. Some of these girls have an odd sense of pride like "I am a 700 Reals girl" so they will rather wait until the next dumbfuck shows up than do it for less than that.

[QUOTE=BallsDeep1980;2909654]300-400? Where are you finding these women?[/QUOTE]

I completely agree. For these prices I can stay home in Europe and fuck ANY girl of my liking. Ironically even Brazilians. That being said, I do enjoy the other nice things in Rio, a trip is always more than fucking. So lets keep this natural sex reserve as intact as possible)).

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2909618]
Also in mongering lately many no longer discuss CPF / Cost per Fuck. This shit really matters. I used to read on average 200/250 USD (incl flight / stay) as a commonly agreed amt in mult forums. But now mfrs especially here in rio you're seeing 1000/1500 r 200/250 USD in termas, plus adding flight, hotels / Airbnb you're easily at 500 USD cpf. For this amount you might as well stay home using legal bunny ranch brothels in Vegas and pay even less or a trip to Miami and find girls at 200 USd easily. [/QUOTE]

What would be a good time to try 4 X 4 and Perola Negra? Never been to either. I tried to go to 4 X 4 one night and the uber dropped me off in what looked like a bunch of abandoned buildings in a really shady area and there was no sign of anyone, I was confused. Are the girls quality at the above two mentioned establishments?

CPF: Sure. Ever rational punter wants to minimize his CPF and maximize his pleasures, but there are a lot of variables that go into what is one's pleasures and these pleasures vary from individual to individual. So, what turns you on? A beautiful face? A big ass? 30 minutes wham bam? LT? Huge ta ta's? A large clean bed? BBFS? Or something else? I don't know and I don't much care what others like because I know what I like. But, interestingly I am well aware of a handful of similar minded punters on the various forums like the SP, BKK, CGK, Phnom, and Makati threads who over the years I have barhopped. It has always been entertaining and fun to compare notes and see how each of us feel about various girls, their personalities, the venues, and prices on the ground in actual situations.

This highlights the problems with CPF internet discussions because these discussions are usually conducted in the dark since most ISG'ers including myself will not post facial pics of our favorite girls on the internet for obvious reasons and without pics, CPF discussions can only make sense if you think girls are fungible like a bushel of soybeans. Unfortunately, I do not think so. But hey, if some of you guys think centro prive girls look as good as tier 1 or tier 2 Scandallo girls or even boutique SP Palms clinica girls then knock yourself out. Centro is bargain city for you! Just remember, that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so there is going to be a lot of disagreement on the quality variable. And beauty / looks is only one of the deciding variables that lead to my choice of a girl on any given afternoon or night. A girl's personality or lack thereof is another very important variable for example.

And I don't think I am alone in this. I will only add that a punter should know the particular venue a little and what is typically charged in that venue before he goes there. "Overpaying" or getting ripped off is paying more than others in a particular venue like paying more than the set price in a prive or terma. But it should be obvious to everyone that a shag in a quality terma like Solarium will cost you more than a shag in a centro clinica. I can't say anything more to guys who think the shag and the girls are the same in both venues and the only thing that matters is the BR and CPF. But rock on guys and have a good time wherever you decide to monger. I am not judging anybody, at least not before I see the pics. KKK.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2909685]CPF Cost Per Fuck should be as low as possible.

I agree completely!

Your cost per fuck should be as low as possible. You calibrate your CPF by centro prive or tijuca prive pussy.

[URL]https://gparena.net/tds-areas.php?a=2[/URL][/QUOTE]Of course, spend 200 usd at Centaurus and 20 usd at a prive and you're already at 110 average. Funny thing is usually in a many reports mongers would say their best lay was the cheaper one LOL. Not always but I read that a lot. I'm also discovering all these low end clubs / prives myself that NO MFR ever report or write about. It is like shame or embarrassment maybe? Or is there a sense of making their balls bigger online aka flexing when reporting high end spots or expenses? I know you VagaB when you report your porn star excessive raw balls deep fucking it's just for fun, besides you lowball their asses at 400/500 per noite. That's how it's done. But talking about spending 1500 on a high mileage hefer and never mentioning the sweet cheap places that they go daily on the low secretly isn't cool man. The $10 pussies are what I want to tell my buds about, VM and everything cause that's what's rare.

[QUOTE=BallsDeep1980;2909837]What would be a good time to try 4 X 4 and Perola Negra? Never been to either. I tried to go to 4 X 4 one night and the uber dropped me off in what looked like a bunch of abandoned buildings in a really shady area and there was no sign of anyone, I was confused. Are the girls quality at the above two mentioned establishments?[/QUOTE]The taxi must have dropped you off in the main Road Av Presidente, be sure to have Gmap open, small street looks lke a hallway called are. Buenos Aires on the left is the final turn. Not hard to find. I have a theory of not going to these places on Fri or Sat, since lots of want to be ballers w bottles and usually grab all the best girls 2 or 3 each for hours LOL. If I'm going to spend 400/500 r + drinks / room I must have an 8/9 at least and very picky. So I didn't session at 4 X4 which I tried last Mon., my theory failed that night but almost worked as there wasnt too many dudes but also only few girls, only 2 solid 8's which were grabbed quickly. Tried Perola Negra last Sat and best ones were all busy. I'm going to try early evenings like 5-8 pm Tues. To sat and I might get lucky. Paris Cafe's been great so far on Fri nights after 10 p luckily not too many gents and usually a nice selection.

I find it hard to believe you are getting 200 usd cpf in miami, Florida. It may be possible but I doubt the quality of a 200 usd girl in miami is the same as a 1000 r brazilian in rio. I'm happy to be corrected on this.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2909618]Once in a while when I see a good comment I like to give kudos!

Also in mongering lately many no longer discuss CPF / Cost per Fuck. This shit really matters. I used to read on average 200/250 USD (incl flight / stay) as a commonly agreed amt in mult forums. But now mfrs especially here in rio you're seeing 1000/1500 r 200/250 USD in termas, plus adding flight, hotels / Airbnb you're easily at 500 USD cpf. For this amount you might as well stay home using legal bunny ranch brothels in Vegas and pay even less or a trip to Miami and find girls at 200 USd easily. Nothing to brag about oh I fucked x amt of girls in Brazil LOL. Mofo you spent $500 per fuck dumb ass.
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[QUOTE=Kazeu;2909892]I find it hard to believe you are getting 200 usd cpf in miami, Florida. It may be possible but I doubt the quality of a 200 usd girl in miami is the same as a 1000 r brazilian in rio. I'm happy to be corrected on this.[/QUOTE]No such thing as a 1000 r Brazilian, chomps pay that then she'll go to another club and charge 100 r or freelancing online for a lot less, and of course giving it free to some.

So yes no trash talk but I can correct you since I lived in Miami, they got Boricuas / Puerto ricans, Cubans, Dominicans, Whites, Blacks, and yes a shit load of Brazilians too LOL. Indeed you can even pay less than $200 for 30 min as I'm just being generous.

The only obvious issue you run into and why it's worth traveling is that this shit is illegal back home; and many of the Ads are cops trying to set you up to blast your face on tv oh we caught another sex trafficker LOL. When you call you cannot ask for rates / cost and talk about sex, and if you talk about sex you cannot talk about cost / rate. The two together is illegal, and that's the trick to know if it's a cop. Escorting is legal, hence you can pay for company, just cannot discuss that it's for sex and what two adults do in private is legal. That's how it's done in the Matrix, and why US still is the largest brothel in the World believe it or not. If she's saying oh for 200 you get sex / BJ blah blah it's 100% a set up. The real ads will say to not ask questions on services offered when you call, etc. Also will ask you if you're a cop, and legally no charges can be filled if a real cop lies. When you live in the US and want P4 P you must know these tricks unfortunately.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2909860]The $10 pussies are what I want to tell my buds about, VM and everything cause that's what's rare.[/QUOTE]Well, you can still talk to your buds about these unicorn $10 pussies, but you won't find them in real life. Granted it's been years since I last ventured into those paradisiacal urine-stench alleys of VM, but even then a 30-minute session would set you back $16-20, and I doubt it's gotten cheaper since then.

Trash venues are only cheap up to a point. If you're OK with a 30-minute humping in despicable conditions, sure you can save loads of money. But if you want to take your sweet time, that's going to start costing more very quickly, and if you're -- god forbid -- not inclined to have sex in the same sweat- and jizz-soaked sheets used by generations of johns and hookers before you, then we're looking into the same 200-300 reals territory of a relatively decent prive. So what's the point again?

Of course, if you're in Rio for weeks or months, then sure, go to trash prives and collect numbers. But it's still going to cost you way more than $10. Otherwise, I wouldn't bother unless out of curiosity.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2909901]No such thing as a 1000 r Brazilian, chomps pay that then she'll go to another club and charge 100 r or freelancing online for a lot less, and of course giving it free to some.[/QUOTE]Flight cost is of course part of the cost but there is value to enjoying travel in and of itself, especially if you enjoy the environment, music, culture, and mindset of your destination. There is also the value of convenience, comfort, and being in a place where what you want is readily accessible. It's still important to be informed what is the norm at each location, from high end to low end. But when factoring in all the layers of value, cost is a more complex calculation.