Davao

GE and I live relatively peaceful,comfortable lives here in the PI.He and I enjoy relatively respected status in the Cebu and Davao communities respectively.We both live in exclusive gated and guarded communities.So you can imagine how a guy like Freddy can be very disturbing and disruptive to GE s life.I can understand and respect his choice to disengage from contact.Personally If this happened in Cebu to me with my friends,It would have been a different ending......

GE,On a personal note ,Remember that MTV VJ I had,I just helped her using my contacts in Tourism Malaysia to get selected as one of the image models of Tourism Malaysia.She is going to be the girl you will be seeing on the global TV,Print Ad campaign of Tourism Malaysia.So her face will be all over BBC,CNN etc.billboards in Singapore,Hong Kong,London,New York etc.For this She will be paid tens of thousands of dollars.You can imagine how she will show her thanks.She is leaving for Malaysia in April and So will I......

Wow,

Seems I missed all the action with GE & DS in Hennys place.

Most action i have seen in that compound is when some local Filipino/Chinese guy ran his BMW into Henny's plant pots. And Jim the expat owner of Some Place Else had this very same guy ejected from his place, for abusing one of his staff. So there is justice after all.

I'll be back down Davao way in a couple of months, so will drop by the compound and check out the scene. As for O'Flanagans I think I will give that a wide berth after my last visit.

Ciao,

CP

CL you devil! Of course I remember her. She's gorgeous! I'll be back in Manila tomorrow. Maybe you could bring her to dinner and ask her to bring along her twin sister. You're correct of course about my life in Davao. It's fairly tranquil and I hate to engage in any behavior which disrupts that tranquillity, especially when such disruption is caused by my own stupidity. I will give you a call tomorrow when I'm back in town.

Tout01, there's something in your post that makes me want to respond, but I realized when I reread it that I have no idea what you're talking about. Freddy had zero idea who DS was. I would never give out the names of my friends! He did not come to the restaurant to "confront" DS. He had no idea he would be there and he had no idea who DS was even after sitting at the table. Your idea is ludicrous.Even Henny does not know (from me) about the "DS" nickname. Why would I tell him.

Neither DS nor I make our involvement with this board a topic of coktail party conversation. Like DS, I belong to and write on here strictly as a matter of personal amusement.

I agree with DS that most of the guys out there are "decent" people; after all, I've met more than a few, but it's also true that there is a small percentage of people who are neither decent nor "normal" in any socially acceptable sense of that term. They're the ones to avoid at all costs and unfortunately, I was not cautious (or perhaps smart) enough to avoid one of them.

At any rate, I think the "Freddy" topic has been done to death already. As Domino said, on his thread, maybe it will serve as a warning to others about an unvarnished willingness to meet strangers. It's certainly taught me a lesson about too much openness.

DS my friend. let's leave the topic and concentrate instead on the sharing of good wine and the nicer things in life.

:D

GE

Yes I can confirm for dinner. But I dont know about her,I,ll see,Final Word about Freddie.Please invite him to Cebu and We can have a another episode Freddie meets Immigration Department and Mayor Tommy Osmena s Hunter Squads.....

I realize you guys want this topic to end, but I'm really confused.

GE says, "Freddy had zero idea who DS was."

Yet DS seems to indicate otherwise in his post. When DS asks Freddy to put down the knife, Freddy responds as if he knows who DS is. I don't remember exactly what was said, but something like, "...someone like you...".

Of course maybe Freddy was making assumptions just from DS's appearance....I don't know.

Anyway, as GE suggests, on to more interesting topics: wine, women and song...

X

Hate to break up the frat party but can anyone advise me on a good mp in Davao. A bar with a VIP room. Additionally, a relatively clean short time hotel. I may want to break away from my already scheduled lady.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=X Man]I realize you guys want this topic to end, but I'm really confused.

GE says, "Freddy had zero idea who DS was."

Yet DS seems to indicate otherwise in his post. When DS asks Freddy to put down the knife, Freddy responds as if he knows who DS is. I don't remember exactly what was said, but something like, "...someone like you...".

Of course maybe Freddy was making assumptions just from DS's appearance....I don't know.

Anyway, as GE suggests, on to more interesting topics: wine, women and song...

X[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Billpsu]Hate to break up the frat party but can anyone advise me on a good mp in Davao. A bar with a VIP room. Additionally, a relatively clean short time hotel. I may want to break away from my already scheduled lady.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]
Cannot give you any advice on an MP as I've never used one in Davao. The best VIP room is probably at Roman Plaza on Cabaggio, but there are also decent ones at Moonlight at the other end of that road. Moonlight has really deteriorated though so you may want to give that some second thought. There's a very small VIP room at Hot Legs II and I don't remember seening any at Hot Legs I but I was not really looking for them. There are about five decent short term places in Davao, but the only one I know about (never used any) is the Holiday Hotel which is out near the Grand Regal on Lentacca. I hear it's very nice but as I said, I have no personal experience and I do not know the cost.

Hope this helps somewhat.

:D

GE

Moonlight, this place has just never been the same sine C... sold out his share and went elsewhere. In fact found one of his old business cards the other day. "If your wife dont love you, then we do" what a catch phrase.

Used to be a regular after hours haunt back in the old days.

In fact I dont think since C... gave up his share there is anywhere else quite like it.

Ciao,

CP.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Cannot give you any advice on an MP as I've never used one in Davao. The best VIP room is probably at Roman Plaza on Cabaggio, but there are also decent ones at Moonlight at the other end of that road. Moonlight has really deteriorated though so you may want to give that some second thought. There's a very small VIP room at Hot Legs II and I don't remember seening any at Hot Legs I but I was not really looking for them. There are about five decent short term places in Davao, but the only one I know about (never used any) is the Holiday Hotel which is out near the Grand Regal on Lentacca. I hear it's very nice but as I said, I have no personal experience and I do not know the cost.

Hope this helps somewhat.

:D

GE[/QUOTE]

Galeras has several VIP Rooms on the Ground floor. This Bar is located in D/T Davao a few blocks over from the Marco Polo Hotel. Has dancers on second floor, some of whom wil get totally nude. Has Karaoke on first floor. Clientele on first floor is mostly local filipinos.

This place is close to ITME's Bar of similar quality. I am certain the girls use the VIP Rooms to fuck/suck the locals. As a foreigner, I had no luck with the women here as they always wanted P2500 for a few hours. Given the lousy quality of the place and the squalid locale, this is five times what it wold be worth. I doubt if tey get more than P500 for a romp with a local in a VIP Room. I never had any trouble here but it is in a bad section of D/T. Take a taxi to/from it.

Dragon SLayer

What is "ITME's"? Is that the bars name?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Dragon Slayer]Galeras has several VIP Rooms on the Ground floor. This Bar is located in D/T Davao a few blocks over from the Marco Polo Hotel. Has dancers on second floor, some of whom wil get totally nude. Has Karaoke on first floor. Clientele on first floor is mostly local filipinos.

This place is close to ITME's Bar of similar quality. I am certain the girls use the VIP Rooms to fuck/suck the locals. As a foreigner, I had no luck with the women here as they always wanted P2500 for a few hours. Given the lousy quality of the place and the squalid locale, this is five times what it wold be worth. I doubt if tey get more than P500 for a romp with a local in a VIP Room. I never had any trouble here but it is in a bad section of D/T. Take a taxi to/from it.

Dragon SLayer[/QUOTE]

ITME's is the Name of this Bar with dancers. Near Galleras and same quality sleaze. GE and I actually walked from Hot Legs to ITME's to Galeras one night in Aug 2004. Stepped over many a druniken tramp and passed by many a sleazy w___ along the way. This was during my "dragon slayer stage" when I was into barroom brawling and whatever excitement approached me. Most of my time was spent hanging out at Ground Zero though(pretty good choice I might add).

The Place did a "shower show" similar to Hot Legs I. Since Aug 2004 I have not ventured into any of the D/T Clubs even though I have made seven additional Trips to Davao in this time. To quote Kipling in Mandalay " I have a sweeter, neater maiden in Davao far away". Hope Rudy doesn't mind the slight change in the last few words. Referring to my 22 y/o.

When Davao runs out of its overflowing abundance of beautiful, sexy, young regular ladies I will revisit the D/T Clubs. I strayed briefly with GE last Feb 13, right after that fateful event. But I had (who the fuck wouldn't given the circumstances?) consumed a bit of wine in the aftermath and was in need of some pussy to take my mind off the events that had transpired. Sadly, GE's woman together with mine in the car behind us noticed our "detour" and followed.

Dragon Slayer

[QUOTE=Dragon Slayer]Pals,

I knew I should never have made that Freddy Kruger Post. For five weeks now I had a bad feeling in my left testicle whenever I considered writing that long Report.

Freddy is now a virtual celebrity here. If he does return to Davao, he will most likely be doing tv spots, autograph signings and sell replice "Freddy Knives". I can't blame GE. I mean who the Fuck would think he was this weird? Like I said I never had an experience like this before. The "where is your house, so I can drop my things off there now?" cellphone comment to GE gave some indication he was "different" but not into flashing carving knives at a restaurant dinner table.

I plan on returning to Cebu in four weeks, via Hong Kong, unless I go to the UK for a week first. In Cebu I frequent Silver Dollar in the early evening. I might change Hotels as the one I stay at there did some renovating and doubled their prices to pay for it ( the actual rooms are all unchanged).

I will fly to Davao after a day or two in Cebu. I may try the Executive Suites at Marco Polo this Trip. Not sure but after the dream of Freddy climbing over the balcony into my Room at Casa leticia, it may be a good idea.

X Man, you have a point. Henny needs to switch to one inch, thin blade steak knives. May take a bit longer to carve your meat but better than having someone, perhaps a psycho lady, using the six inch knives to carve your other "meat" via a "Wayne Bobbick" (remember him?).

Dragon Slayer[/QUOTE]

Hey DS,

Read your post on Freddy. Truly an unfortunate incident.

I think many of these losers assume they can go to a "third wolrd" country and do and get away with everything. I'll bet you Freddy there probably thought he could waltz in and you would just share your women with him because they are "thrid world". I have run across a few like him myself. Yes, these countries and their people are poor, but we still have to respect them. Freddy will eventually find himself in a ditch or in a really bad THIRD WOLRD prison!

You are right about the hotel situation in Cebu. When I was last there in Nov, they were starting their renovations. Please let me know if you find a better place at reasonable rate. I'm starting to plan my next trip, which I hope will be around December again.

Cheers.

Diver69

Exactly what and where is "ground zero?" I have noticed it mentioned a number of times. I went back and researched previous posts but could not find a precise explanation of the where and what.

Appreciate your help.

[QUOTE=Dragon Slayer]ITME's is the Name of this Bar with dancers. Near Galleras and same quality sleaze. GE and I actually walked from Hot Legs to ITME's to Galeras one night in Aug 2004. Stepped over many a druniken tramp and passed by many a sleazy w___ along the way. This was during my "dragon slayer stage" when I was into barroom brawling and whatever excitement approached me. Most of my time was spent hanging out at Ground Zero though(pretty good choice I might add).

What and exactly where is "ground zero?" I have observed it mentioned a number of times. I went back in the posts but can't seem to find the what and where of it.

Thank you.

The Place did a "shower show" similar to Hot Legs I. Since Aug 2004 I have not ventured into any of the D/T Clubs even though I have made seven additional Trips to Davao in this time. To quote Kipling in Mandalay " I have a sweeter, neater maiden in Davao far away". Hope Rudy doesn't mind the slight change in the last few words. Referring to my 22 y/o.

When Davao runs out of its overflowing abundance of beautiful, sexy, young regular ladies I will revisit the D/T Clubs. I strayed briefly with GE last Feb 13, right after that fateful event. But I had (who the fuck wouldn't given the circumstances?) consumed a bit of wine in the aftermath and was in need of some pussy to take my mind off the events that had transpired. Sadly, GE's woman together with mine in the car behind us noticed our "detour" and followed.

Dragon Slayer[/QUOTE]

I think it's the convenience store just north of Apo View Hotel / Casa Leticia. It's across the street from the Davao sports center and has outdoor seating which attracts a young drinking crowd in the evenings.

Who coined the name "ground zero"? My guess is DS.

X

Bill, you have to read back a lot farther.

Ground Zero is a convenience store. It sits on a street corner where Illustre Street, which has O'Flanagans Irish Bar and Gaisano Citimall, meets the street coming from Apo View Hotel. I think that street is called Camus Street. The best way to find it is to start at the Apo View. From the hotel go to the street and turn right. After crossing the street and going for about 250 meters you'll pass Casa Leticia Hotel and Tsuru Japanese Restaurant (a good place to eat by the way). Just after these you will come to the street corner and the convenience store. That's the where.

Now for the what. You'll see that there's an outdoor seating area of about 8 tables or so. This area is surrounded by plants, trees and shrubs in a valiant but not altogether successful attempt to shield it from the unpleasantness of the street. Go inside and you'll see another seating area of about 5 tables or so to the left. On the other side of the store there are some counter seats facing out the window onto Illustre Street. Working girls will sometimes sit here, giving an informal Amsterdam window effect. Besides its attraction as a mongering venue, the store is a good place to pick up various goodies late at night when most places are closed, especially phone cards. If you're staying at nearby hotels or drinking at O'Flanagans you'll almost certainly be in this shop at some point. That's the what.

Now for the what's what and importantly, the when. In general, earlier means more normal girls and better quality. If you go in the daytime you'll often see nursing students from the nearby hospital in the indoor seating area. As night falls the composition of people shifts. Street walkers appear on the nearby streets. The outdoor seating area will have a mix of the street walkers, transsexuals, pimps and mamasans, and some normal people. If you choose to sit here you'll get to breathe your fill of car exhaust and sewage odor, not to mention dealing with whatever the weather might be.

Can you find something you like at Ground Zero? Possibly. Some guys like the 'skanky' side of things and this place is definitely for them, especially at night. It's a street walker, hardcore scene. If that's for you go for it. If you go earlier you might find quality. Then again if you're looking for that you'll find more selection and better places to hang out if you go to the mall.

Relative to the quality of mongering that you find there and your chances of seeing it on a given day, I think that this place is one of the most overrated and overmentioned in ISG. In fact the name Ground Zero, implying the center of everything, could more deservingly be given Rizal Promenade or De Bonte Koe's area. Among your mongering options in Davao, it's down the list a ways, probably on par with the Hot Legs-Galera-ITME hostess bars.

Let me point out the facts that led to my suggestion that FK used his contact with GE to confront DS:

1) FK informs DS “from what I have heard about you, I would not think you would be uncomfortable now". (DS, Post 1048)

2) GE informs DS after the incident "the fucking guy just would not get it. I kept telling him if he went back inside the Dragon Slayer was going to kill him.” (DS,1048)

Now this quotation does not fit with the recent denials:

1) “Freddy had zero idea who DS was. I would never give out the names of my friends! He did not come to the restaurant to "confront" DS. He had no idea he would be there and he had no idea who DS was even after sitting at the table.” ( GE, 1072)

2) “GE told me last February that Freddie is one of the lurkers, not into posting…My DS moniker was NEVER brought up during the "meet" at Henny's” (DS, 1068)

My emphasis: From the evidence of the prior posts, I suggested that it was planned. Now the players deny it. I understand why GE does but GE has caused DS red tape before. Well the denials don’t add up. I am making an issue of this as I need to clarify why I believe DS's personality and the nature of WSG lurkers created this clash.

DS judges one’s self worth by the quality and quantity of how many women one fucks and how much assets real and imagined he has is as much as a sign of insecurity as it is a sign of definite immaturity. We all have foibles, but I can understand why a FK came out of the woodwork to test the excessive pride DS espouses herein. We can’t be all winners like you DS, remember?

It is those losers who will be out there seeking DS, the likes of FK who had the balls to confront DS. The fact that several individuals are seeking him out at O’Flanagans is proof enough. The fact that DS has several enemies on this board is known to all.

It would not be that difficult to garner a decent description of DS and pin him down from his own posts. DS made his travel plans known to all that he was in Davao at the time.

DS states “ while leaving O'Flanagan'. Heard someone yell" Dragon Slayer how are you?" DS Feb 10 2006 – four days before the event.

My emphasis: There were over 200,000 hits on that message. This is not keeping a low profile.

FK might not have been at the bar at the time but don't suggest that you keep a low profile and are just a normal guy.

You have a very high profile and are a immature braggart.

It is no wonder to me that the FK incident occurred. If it was not planned, it sure sounds way too good not to be true.

Damn Mahku, I couldn't have written that many words about Ground Zero if I had been paid to do so. I'm surprised you didn't include photographs and floor plans!

BTW, I went to CDO earlier this month. If I'm not mistaken you were one of the people who did a trip report -- along with GE. Thanks. I've been meaning to type up my own trip report...just never seem to find the time.

X

Mahku:

Thank you very much for taking the time to provide such a complete, yet concise, answer to my question. I will be visiting Davao for the first time in July and, as it probalby appears, want to practice some serouls time management with my mongering.

I was begining to think the Davao section of ISG was devoted soley to communication between a certain few.

Again, thank you for being so gracious.

billpsu

[QUOTE=Mahku]Bill, you have to read back a lot farther.

Ground Zero is a convenience store. It sits on a street corner where Illustre Street, which has O'Flanagans Irish Bar and Gaisano Citimall, meets the street coming from Apo View Hotel. I think that street is called Camus Street. The best way to find it is to start at the Apo View. From the hotel go to the street and turn right. After crossing the street and going for about 250 meters you'll pass Casa Leticia Hotel and Tsuru Japanese Restaurant (a good place to eat by the way). Just after these you will come to the street corner and the convenience store. That's the where.

Now for the what. You'll see that there's an outdoor seating area of about 8 tables or so. This area is surrounded by plants, trees and shrubs in a valiant but not altogether successful attempt to shield it from the unpleasantness of the street. Go inside and you'll see another seating area of about 5 tables or so to the left. On the other side of the store there are some counter seats facing out the window onto Illustre Street. Working girls will sometimes sit here, giving an informal Amsterdam window effect. Besides its attraction as a mongering venue, the store is a good place to pick up various goodies late at night when most places are closed, especially phone cards. If you're staying at nearby hotels or drinking at O'Flanagans you'll almost certainly be in this shop at some point. That's the what.

Now for the what's what and importantly, the when. In general, earlier means more normal girls and better quality. If you go in the daytime you'll often see nursing students from the nearby hospital in the indoor seating area. As night falls the composition of people shifts. Street walkers appear on the nearby streets. The outdoor seating area will have a mix of the street walkers, transsexuals, pimps and mamasans, and some normal people. If you choose to sit here you'll get to breathe your fill of car exhaust and sewage odor, not to mention dealing with whatever the weather might be.

Can you find something you like at Ground Zero? Possibly. Some guys like the 'skanky' side of things and this place is definitely for them, especially at night. It's a street walker, hardcore scene. If that's for you go for it. If you go earlier you might find quality. Then again if you're looking for that you'll find more selection and better places to hang out if you go to the mall.

Relative to the quality of mongering that you find there and your chances of seeing it on a given day, I think that this place is one of the most overrated and overmentioned in ISG. In fact the name Ground Zero, implying the center of everything, could more deservingly be given Rizal Promenade or De Bonte Koe's area. Among your mongering options in Davao, it's down the list a ways, probably on par with the Hot Legs-Galera-ITME hostess bars.[/QUOTE]

Tout, there's no reason to turn this into a flame war. All the inconsisties can (probably) be easily explained...but GE says he's finished with this topic. As for DS, he sometimes rubs people the wrong way, but it's not going to make the Davao thread more interesting if the two of you start flaming and calling each other names.

Easily explained: Part of your post is quoted below. Although GE used the name "DS" in his post, it is likely that he did not use the name DS when he was talking to the guy. He very likely used "he" or "that guy".

If you really want the fine points of the story, buy GE or DS or Freddie a beer and ask. Of course you might have to send your resume and some personal references before GE or DS will meet you. :-)

****

2) GE informs DS after the incident "the fucking guy just would not get it. I kept telling him if he went back inside the Dragon Slayer was going to kill him.” (DS,1048)

Now this quotation does not fit with the recent denials:


2) My DS moniker was NEVER brought up during the "meet" at Henny's” (DS, 1068)

Jeesh...

What is the problem here?

** I was begining to think the Davao section of ISG was devoted soley to communication between a certain few.

** Hate to break up the frat party ...

Amazing that some guys have so little to occupy their time that they obsessively "research" quotes from prior posts. I know I do not have to justify myself to some guy whom I don't know and will never meet, but the fact is that FK had no idea that my friend DS would be there and had no idea who he was. Accept that or don't. It makes no difference to me.

DS hardly needs me to defend him as he's perfectly capable of doing that himself. However, the fact is that he's been here dozens and dozens of times, is inordinately successful with the ladies, has a great time while he's here, has lots of friends in the city, and hurts no one. Why anyone else should even care about this, let alone have a problem with it, is beyond my comprehension, as is the reason for ad hominem attacks by people who do not even know each other. Of course, speaking only standard English and French, I do not understand the "red tape" sentence, but I don't really need a clarification.

On another front entirely, the bad news is that school as ended for a couple of months and vacation begins this week. This means fewer ladies in white thronging the pavements until school resumes again. The good news is that summer school starts in two weeks, which brings in a fresh crop of talent looking for funds to pay the summer school tuition. The crowds on Rizal then, will not be as thick as they are during the academic year, but there will be some new faces. The other bit of good news is that the frequency of rain is diminishing, the ocean water is clearing, and the diving is improving.

I have been in Thailand for the last several days and it's reconfirmed my earlier conclusion that while the food, the culture and indeed the place itself is altogether more interesting than the PI, the Filipinas are, in general, more beautiful than the Thais. It seems logical to me then, that choosing between the two places depends almost entirely on one's reason for visiting. If it's to meet ladies, the PI wins every time. If it's to explore cultural differences and visit interesting sites, then Thailand certainly has the edge.

I've gotten several recent PMs from guys looking for moderately-priced places to stay. I think the Hotel Galleria is the best choice for those seeking accommodations in the P1,200-P1,500 ($23-$29) range. It's convenient, attractive, and clean, though certainly not as nice as Case Leticia, the Marco Polo or the Grand Regal.

:D

GE

[QUOTE=X Man]Damn Mahku, I couldn't have written that many words about Ground Zero if I had been paid to do so. I'm surprised you didn't include photographs and floor plans!
X[/QUOTE]

Well, if I had them I probably would have put them in.

In my visits to Davao in the last couple of years, I've met or heard of several people who came to Davao just because of what they read about Ground Zero on this board. Most of them left in a day or two, thoroughly disappointed and disgusted about what they really found there. That's why I tried to be as complete as possible about what people may find there.

[QUOTE=X Man]
BTW, I went to CDO earlier this month. If I'm not mistaken you were one of the people who did a trip report -- along with GE. Thanks. I've been meaning to type up my own trip report...just never seem to find the time.

X[/QUOTE]

Yes, I love that town! It's better for normal girls than bar girls, though it does have a bit of that action also. I'll be back there for my July to September visit. Sadly, I've had to replace the girl I've mainly been seeing, since she's graduated to the world of marriage. But the online interviewing process to find her successor(s) has been going on briskly.

Please give us your report as soon as you can.

Funny you mentioned it GE but a hobglobin is in fact the irish version of FK as per the picture; funny you couldnt translate the word red tape, so I will leave it to your imagination but will share with readers what you are talking about.

I am not saying that ge informed fk himself that ds would be in attendence but if in fact fk contacted GE via WSG , FK knew DS and planned the confrontation given DS's GPS posts.

I doubt this is fucked-all-squared as you purport it. The fact is the event happened and FK is the exact type of weirdo from WSG who would take a crack at DS.

DS needs to tone it down not only for his own personal safety but also for the 200,000 plus readers who may suffer existential nausea by his posts even though this might not be consistent with your view on how great he is.

Galleria
[email]hgadicor@info.com.ph[/email] / 221-24-80
2005 rates range from single standard 685 to penthouse 1,975
Some of the rooms have a mildew smell. Great value since it has a courtyard pool.

If I ever get back to Davao, I think I'll try Apo view since they have such a huge pool.
Deluxe room 2,300 w/ breakfast
That sounds reasonable, but when I was in davao they said they had only a junior suite available at 6000! No thanks.

Apo [email]info@apoview.com[/email]

X

[QUOTE=X Man]Galleria
[email]hgadicor@info.com.ph[/email] / 221-24-80
2005 rates range from single standard 685 to penthouse 1,975
Some of the rooms have a mildew smell. Great value since it has a courtyard pool.

If I ever get back to Davao, I think I'll try Apo view since they have such a huge pool.
Deluxe room 2,300 w/ breakfast
That sounds reasonable, but when I was in davao they said they had only a junior suite available at 6000! No thanks.

Apo [email]info@apoview.com[/email]

X[/QUOTE]

If you really want to experience the full glory of the scent of mildew, I think the Apo View is a better bet. I've only been in the rooms once, but the odor of mildew in the corridors and in the room itself was quite strong. Again, the problem with the Apo is that no one has spent more than $1.50 on rennovations and preventive maintenance in a long, long time, and it shows. Admittedly, I've never been in the rooms in Galleria, or even inside the hotel for that matter, so I cannot compare the relative strenth of mildew odor. Of course one added benefit of Galleria is that it's aroundthe corner from one of the largest nursing schools in Davao, so it's easy to pop over and scope the ladies between their classes.

:D

GE

Tout01,

You are a disgrace to my Irish Family living in Cork. You are beyond disgrace. What did you do, struggle through the 8th grade laddie? When I was in US law Enforcement we had a term for a "tout". It was a cheap crook.

A guy like you will NEVER have enough money for a TRip to Davao. I do hope we meet though. You are too much. Make me ashamed for my beloved Mother from southern Ireland and all my Family still living over there.

Guys who have NOT been to Davao should just fuck off. No need to put your two cents worth in here. I should listen to my instincts and keep from reporting on what takes place here.

The dickhead I call Freddie had no fucking idea I was in Davao nor that I was even talking with GE after a two years period where we kept apart from each other. If he came looking to confront me, he got a hell of a lot more than he could fucking handle.

As to the other asshole's comments here, who the fuck cares? Davao is a great place and I always have a great time here. Be back in a few days. My Nephew of NYPD will be here shortly as the 21 y/o sister of my lovely lady in Davao wants to meet him.

It is a shame that so many jealous, little people cannot just enjoy their lives as I do. This has been y City for over ten (10) years now. No pathetic shanty is going to fuck with me.

Dragon Slayer

XMan,

Pal, you will NOT let up. I am 6'4" tall and 240#. I dress nice and usually wear black at night. How do you think Freddie, an avid reader of this Board, knew it was me??? He recognized me the minute he sat down, uninvited, at our table. I was with GE and, even after a long absence, everyone here knew we had been old friends. How many 6'4", 240# friends does GE have? GE has described me here very accurately on several occasions back in 2004.

Give this a rest. Freddie has no time to Post here. I am certain at this moment he is in some remote (and cheap) corner of the world tormenting some unsuspecting travellers. Most likely has them tied to a bed in his cheap hovel and is taunting them with his Freddie knife while saying, " Now you know you want my pills?"

You do realize I returned to Davao two days AFTER the "Freddie Incident"? Had a fabulous time and no drama at all. GE and I went out with our ladies nightly and no Freddie was to be found anywhere. I spent my time fucking myself like crazy with my lovely 22 y/o in Davao. Be back in a few more days.

Dragon Slayer

Goodenough,

I am busier than a Pro Girl at a "Tool & Die Convention" with work. Looking forward to returning here shortly. My Nephew says thankyou for your kind offer of introducing him to some lovely ladies (more than I ever got). He is still working on my 22 y/o's gorgeous 21 y/o sister. But he needs a "back-up plan".

I have been calling you on your cellphone like you had a $ 1000 for me. What the fuck has been happening? On the net I met a gorgeous 22 y/o (yes, another one in Davao) named "Eve". I told her I was Adam. I have the banana (no apple this time) for her in my trousers to munch on. She left me a message tonight on the internet when I was out eating a very late night dinner.

Some guys come to Davao and stirke out big time with the ladies here. Then they spend years making Posts here badmouthing me because I do good with the ladies. It takes a bit of finesse and a lot of CLASS. Not money thoug I have this. My 22 y/o refused offers to reimburse her for lost wages while she spent a week off from work with me AFTER the Freddie incident. Same with my 23 y/o in southern china who would not take any money to cover her travel expenses to and from my city in china.

See you in a few more days GE.

Dragopn Slayer

GE, thanks for the heads up about Apo. I'll make sure to inspect a room before laying my money down. As for Galleria, I checked out a room and it was great: bright and clean. I was already booked at Casa L, so I told them I wanted a room the next day. Next day they didn't have the room I first inspected, so I asked to see the room first. As I got to the room, one of the cleaning staff was inside spraying air freshner...bad sign. I told them no thanks and went back to Casa L. I still think Galleria would be a great bargain if you get the right room. Hmmm, I wonder what the "penthouse" looks like...

DS, what was that all about? I've been to that restaurant and met GE. If he was sitting with some big buy dressed in black, I really don't think I would assume it was you. In fact GE introduced me to several people, including males and I never once imagined, "Hmmm, I wonder if this is DS". In fact, according to some of your past posts, I thought you and GE were enemies.

DS, I don't give a flying fk about how big you are, how rich you are, or how hot your women are (unless of course you are posting photos). But I know you've got some great experiences in the Philippines, so I hope you continue to share your wisdom. My only quibble is that you should give us more detail and information....like you did in many of the early Dumaguete and Davao threads. You seem to keep your cards rather close to your chest. (PS, I don't need your chest measurement). For example, can you give us some info about the bar atop Casa Let? What is the atmosphere/ prices/ music / food quality / etc...

X

Well we are automatic adversaries, one side being from W. Limerick the other N. Kerry one generation back mind you but it is not about you and I - although we might pass for brothers.

I speak for those that are of the opinion that the FK incident should be a lesson to DS. I don't expect that you have the faculty to accept it -so your replies with the constant verbage of how you determine self worth centered around your navel only adds fuel to the fires of the FK's that abound that want to reach out to our hero.

It was well known to all that you and GE were back in the good books prior to the Valentine Close to Hari-Kari incident as per your post Feb 10:

"It will be dinner at Henny's this evening. The front desk has a message for GoodEnough in case he calls giving him my cellphone # so we can meet. "

My emphasis: I think many on this board agree that your reports are more about how great you are rather than providing any commentary that would assist the brothers.

So if you elect not to post, that would be fine with us. If "Ground Zero" is any indication of your contribution, your touts are useless as tits on a bull. Tout means the art of promoting stock - but definitely not your kind nor seed although you usually beat us in the hurling.

So that my posts are worthwhile to the brothers seeking info on pussy in the Phil I pass on the non commerical website whorist.com wherein a fellow brother gets real advice from his experiences in a format all can use and enjoy a play by play of his trips that show acumen, something DS lacks.

His posts on his travels are on an almost daily basis when he is in the Phil or Thailand and he never reveals GPS information on himself. He is a figure most can relate to.

Therein you will get the inside skinny on Davao et al., wherein he rates it as "not a sexy place" and GroundZero as a non event, but good information still abounds.

Albeit the ad nauseam posts of DS and his hot tempered drunken sexploits and the broken record of GE does have entertainment value in of itself. So keep it up lads.

It's amazing how, when DS posts, regardless of the subject, this board seems to spring alive and everyone starts coming out of the woodwork to offer opinions, counter opinions, wisdom and ignorance regarding any subject that he posts about. I just got off the phone with him, and neither of us could quite believe the responses provoked by the now famous "Freddy" posts, which were clearly intended to present a humorous description of what actually happened on that dark and rainy night. I'm pretty sure that Freddy's favorite haunt is Ethiopia, so he may be lurking there at present, though I know some Ethiopians who would gladly cut his balls off if he pulls his steak knife routine.

No one else that I know of on this board seems able to provoke so many varied responses from so many different kinds of guys. This would be a less interesting place without him.

The DS told me, and asked me to tell everyone else that he will not be posting for the several few weeks as he's up to his ass in work, and then he'll be heading this way again. I'm sure this will disappoint those of you who seem to relish his reports.

XMan, you ask about the club "Totos" at the top of the Apo View. The only time I was ever there was about 2 years ago with DS. It was extremely attractive, and had just been renovated. Several people I know go there regularly and they enjoy it, but I do not think it's a pick up spot, and it's reasonably upscale. It's easy enough to check out, being across the street from the Apo View and within easy walking distance of the Marco Polo. I would recommend the Blue Room as a more exciting alternative; at least it's got pick up possibilities, though no certainties.

I doubt that Galleria is as nice as Casa Leticia, though I've only been in DS' suite at CL, and it is lovely. As I said, I've never been inside Galleria.

:D

GE

GE talks about the top of APO...and maybe someone can talk about the top fo Casa Leticia...but the theme always seem to be women. Nothing wrong with that, and I'm sure the newbies appreciate that, but I have had no problem picking up women in the Philippines ....been doing that on and off for the last 25 years. I'd prefer to have more detailed travel information...

A few months ago I asked if anyone knows web sites / message boards that have good information about traveling in the Philippines. TRAVEL...expecially travel to out of the way places...as Freeler and Domino would describe...

Jackson won't tolerate competition, which means p4p sites, but what I'm asking for is just regular old travel sites that you may have found interesting.

If Jackson disagrees, just strike me form this web site, but info about traveling to PI will be good for a web site that plays the p4p card.

x

Sorry. The club "Totos" is on top of the Casa Leticia Hotel, not the Apo View. I typed the post in haste and made the mistake of not rereading it before I submitted it. The Apo View has two clubs, both on the ground floor: the bar/disco Liquids, and the jazz club, The Blue Room. Both of these offer the possibliity of pick ups.

:D

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough] I'm pretty sure that Freddy's favorite haunt is Ethiopia, so he may be lurking there at present
[/QUOTE]

No shit? I'm headed there a week from today. Maybe old Freddy and I will off each other and that'll make some people around here happy. Addis doesn't have an Elm Street does it?

Pals,

X Man asked for input on this Bar. In the "Post Freddie Days" when I was with my lovely Lady in Davao we had several dinners with GE. One evening we went up to Toto's after a long dinner with GE. Rose, my lady's 21 y/o sister, took a taxi home.

The place is dimly lit and very nicely decorated. Several cute waitresses. It was around 11:30PM and I saw no ladies sitting anywhere. We took one of the little corner alcoves where you sit on tatami mats with pillows "Japanese Style". We had a great view of the City from the large window there.

The place served food and drinks and I think they said it was open to 02:30AM but I am not certain. We sat, snuggled up together on the pillows having drinks and relaxing. I noticed small groups of people sitting in similar spots and a western guy sitting alone at a table. Place had great music and ambiance. No available women though. I do not remember the drink prices so they were probably in line with Davao prices at Henny's and similar night spots. Definitely cheaper than Hot Legs I & II. We left there around 01:00 AM and headed to our room.

Liquids in Apo View was great after 10:00P on a Friday night when I visited there. I got there earlier and it was quiet but I noticed one beautiful lady sitting alone at a table sipping a drink. Never saw anyone join her and I regretted that I had someone with me. This place is not as nice as Toto's but it has plenty of dimly lit, comfortable booths where you can sit with a girl after buying her a drink.

On the Saturday night "After Freddie" ( Davao is in the "Before Freddie" and "After Freddie" time spans) we walked past Ground Zero to O'flanagan's Pub. It was around 7:00PM and I was with my Lady and her sister. The place was about 80% full to capacity even at this early hour. One table of seven(7) nurses (yes, i counted) and another table of four young women. Looked pretty good. This place is fun and has music from loud speakers outside and waiters for the tables. Beer is P25/bottle and red horse beer is even cheaper. I think Michael (guy formerly known as Fat Mike) met his wife at Ground Zero. She is cute.

O'Flanagan's does not appear to get women in there. However, as the three of us left there to meet GE at Henny's, three very cute ladies in their early 20's walked in and sat in one of the corner booths. So maybe on weekends the place shows some promise.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

This was just taken in March of my Jing inSOuthern China who I was wit

This is the lady I mentioned earlier with the 38b rack living south of Davao.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

I this one you cannot see my Jing's beautiful face but somehow I do not think you will mind. She is awesome. I should marry her just so she can fuck me to death. She is 25 and a 4 year college degreed professional woman. Be here in So China right before and after Davao.

Pals,

Taking a break from work. Read the Posts here finally as I do not have much free time. I did talk to GE by phone for an hour the other day. We spoke about my Trip, my Lady in Davao AND a couple of guys who do NOTHING but contradict me and ridicule me on this Board. Th one guy only Posts after I do. To my knowledge he has made all of two trips to Davao ever. NEVER saw him with a woman and I asked GE what his "deal" was. His response, and I am quoting GE, "well I don't think he is gay. He's just one of those guys who does not do good with women".

The fact on Ground Zero. GE discovered it, not me. I walked past it a few months before meeting GE for the first time and noticed all the people there. Did not think to stop by. The initial stop there was with GE and my Annie, a very beautiful lady who was head nurse in a Hospital till she moved to Singapore. She mentioned how she and the other nurses would stop by here after work several times each week.

GE and I celebrated my birthday the following evening. GE brought along a beautiful 27 y/o. I asked where did she come from? He replied I picked her up at Ground Zero two weeks ago. Been fucking her ever since. Not bad. The following evenig we headed there alone. Picked up two girls, 19 & 21, both beautiful, within thirty minutes of sitting down here. Spent the evening with them and the following day till my Annie got off from work at the Hospital.

Over the next few Trips GE and I would go here frequently. I would sit here alone at night simply because I enjoyed the music, sitting under the night sky and chatting with the ladies. Met several women here. It is a fun place to go and definitely a good place to meet women. GE agreed with me on this during our telephone conversation the other night. I doubt if we ever spent more than P250 here on food/drinks.

I go here only rarely now because I always have a woman with me and prefer to hang out at more upscale places. GE is out of the lady hunting now. I will drop by here a couple evenings on this Trip and when my nephew is with me.

I do not really care if anyone wants to follow my advice on places to go in Davao. Feel free to listen to a guy that BOTH GE and I never saw with a woman and whom Maurice O'Flanagan complained like hell to me about how cheap he was, "laddie that friend of yours was in here the other day. Let me tell you, he is a cheap one. Sat at the bar for two hours and never ordered so much as a drink". As seems to occur all too frequently when I visit O'Flanagan's, I had to tell Maurice that the guy is NOT a friend of mine.

As to the other offensive comments here by guys, my replying only gives them the attention they desperately crave. All PM's threatening me go directly to Jackson and elsewhere. After the Stalker, I am just tired of this. Posts should be about experiences you have had here, preferably picking up lovely, Davao women. in the more tha three dozen separate Trips have made to Davao beginning i n996, I have never had a Trip here that I did not spend at least a portion of my time fucking my brains out with a beautiful Davao Pussy.

Dragon Slayer

Hee are two photos of the beautiful dwarf I posted about meeting/fucking. How I met her? I got a letter in the postal mail from her last September saying she got my address from a friend who knew me back in 1999 or 2000. She enclosd two photos of her. These I took while fucking her last Feb '06.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

These were taken on the Terrace of my Suite in D/T Davao last Feb 18. My 22 y/o in the first and her with her sister in the second.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

The ladies are holding champagne glasses as these photos were taken during the traditonal "Evening Champagne Sunet Hour" which I hold nightly while in Davao. On the rare occasion when I am alone, I pour a glass of exquisite "bubbly" and step out on the Terrace solo. GE has joined me in a few of these Champagne Sunsets. As to where to buy champagne, PM me. I have a couple suggestions for someone on a tight budget also.

GE has met both ladies in these photos and can confirm that they were with me.

Dragon Slayer

Thanks for the pics DS. Ah, I miss HK and Macao and Chinese women (but not my EX, LOL, besides, she's too old for me and has a kid).

Maybe this sounds crazy, but I found Chinese women had a "tauter" skin texture that I liked and it seemed to me that Filipinas have a "softer" texture, if that makes sense. It's all a moot point now, as my mongering days are over.

I miss RP (and Davao) even more and will not be going this year; new job, not enough leave (or $$$), but the wife and baby go sometime this month.
Ah well, maybe next year.

Nice pictures DS. The two balcony shots bring back found memories of good (no, excellent) wine), beautiful women, lovely surroundings and a feeling of utter contentment. Of course, I remember these two lovelies as well. I thought of you last night as I was helping to consume four bottles of an Oxford Landing Shiraz, circa 2002. It was not up to the standards of the Italian red you left with me, of course, but it was pretty good stuff. I have found a good source here for lots of Australian vintages in the $15-$25 a bottle range. Some of it is quite good.

See you soon.

:D

GE

That is left to the reader to decide but I would say the record shows you contradict yourself a plenty. Thank the booze.

Sure I interposed some of my opinions on our local hero that were repressed, but deep down, we all know you are a nice guy, just a little misunderstood.

So no need to go in a corner and sulk and pretend that it isnt true. FK is the villian here. Lest we forget. You are a work in progress. We care about you. And judging from your recent posts you are being more humble. Enough said.

BTW, I have never been to Davao. But I am not adverse to taking you up on your offer to meet with you.

Dont take that as a contradiction in itself or ridicule for that matter or a threat that you would need to report the post to Jackson, unless in fact that was a ruse on your part, and the invite was not a genuine hand of friendship, not a sharpening of knives.

Judging from your GPS posts, and the fact that I have now almost freed myself after a sojourn of two years with the same lady - if the auditor goes away, we can meet by all means. Davao sounds like a great place for me. I do believe there is better quality to be had there with simpler ladies for as dashing a character as myself.

Seeing that you invited me first, the first drink is on you and if you are not full of yourself and I dont feel like puking listening to how great you think you are then I promise to buy you one and promise not to toast the memory of FK, lest anyone else get toasted.

Pals,

The ladies in the photos I took are all sweet. I had forgotten how lovely my little dwarf was until I posted her photos. It was just last Feb 4 when I was with her but work and life back here seem to make that appear like it was years ago.

Davao is a fun CIty, There is plenty to do and with Henny opening a Second Jazz Bar in two weeks, I have one more place to hang out. As I mentioned O'Flanagan's, Ground Zero and Rizal Promenade (Pussy Central) are all fun in the evening and drinks and food are very reasonable. You can take a two minute walk from Henny's place to Rizal Promenade. Just stay in one of the dozen Hotels (all different prices) in D/T Davao so you are where it all happens.

Most of the Bars with dancers/hookers are in the seedy section of the city. A taxi for P 22 will get you there and back. I have to admit I did find Hot Legs II to my liking. The ladies coming to your table nude for a little tit sucking and two fingers up the pussy routine may have had somethinig to do with this. Beer was P100 but no entrance fee and I tipped P 20 to suck on her tits and shove my fingers up her. She must have liked the treatment as she came back wearing a shirt and panties and sat between GE and myself. Michael (monger formerly known as Fat Mike) was right beside us.

These photos are of my first ever Lady in Davao. I came across her address two years ago and contacted her She replied with cell # and e-mail address immediately. She is living with a guy but was eager to see me again. I did not follow up then but I will see if I can find her address and have a scond go at her. This was back in 1996 in Davao before the beautiful Int'l Airport, Marco Polo Hotel, O'Flanagan's, Henny's and Venue Plaza. There was nothing for us to do but fuck all day/night. Man, just thinking of those days makes my eyes water. It was great.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer

tout 01,

I assume you are talking about me laddie. I have your first dinner and drinks covered at Henny's. After we go to O'flanagan's where every Irishman coming to Davao makes his peace. See you soon laddie.

My nephew arrives in a few months and wants to drink with an irishman of your caliber. You are welcome anytime but you will prefer when he is here and it gives you a few months to prepare. It wil be a Post to remember Laddie.

Dragon Slayer

Pal, I had some good news to report and you have been as absence as a renter on "collection day". I had some singnificant great news . Also, Steve, my good friend in the wine/champagne distributing business has some fabulous champagnes for me to bring to the Phils. Needed your input. But, as usual, you were fucking yourself silly.

Tout 01,

when are you coming so I can be here? If you are needing time PM me and I will tell you exacty when my nephew (NYPD BLUE Irish) will arrive. I am paying for his pane ticket so I know his arrival date.

Dragon Slayer

Hey my man so you did a midget? Damn, I lived in Manila for years and went to the Hobbit House many times. Never did one. I am jealous. Got try that some day. Second pic looks like a combination of pain and ecstasy.

Is she from Davao?

ES

Eaglestar,

I never visited the Hobbit House but I always wanted to go there. I believe it is in Malate, MM. THe dwarf does love to be fucked and she orgasms and screams almost as much as the ladies in China. She is from a small island off Mactan that I did not know existed. Takes a ferry to/from work.

Funny thing about her is I did not know her size. Could not tell on webcam, only that she had big tits. She was 33. When she arrived at my taxi she was scared as I was tired from the long journey across the world. Had only 3 hours sleep in Makati and caught morning flight to Cebu. She got confused at the AIrport (first time there) and was waiting for me at a Restaurant at Departure Area. I was in a cab at Arrivals.

She climbed into te front next to the driver and started crying. I was in the back and said to the driver, "what the fuck is she doing now, crying?". He affirmed this and I apologized, mentioning my lack of sleep (lack of pussy really makes me an angry guy) and a desire for some good food (good pussy actually).

Then, I noticed. I said to myself, what is she ten? SHe looked like a little kid not a grown woman. At the Hotel I politely asked her size and age again. She was a 33 y/o dwarf who could pass for 21. I am 6'4" so this was going to be a "Real Trip". I just said, ok, my first genuine midget. Fucking was great. She loved to take the "One Eyed Trouser Rat" into her love box and gave a good blowjob. When we walked together at Crossroads, I just put my hand on her head as she was too tiny for me to put my arm around her.

No one in the restaurants made any comments about her size and my height. Same for the Hotel. Spent four nights with her till it was time for DAVAO, what it is all about.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

I have not had time to Post. No one else has felt the need to Post either. This will all change soon. Things just seem to happen to me. Not sure why. I will be hunting new pussy in Davao. The 22 y/o, at my request, went to an OB/GYN (female B___) to get on birth control. The B___ MD told her (after hearing my nationality) that this was my responsibility, NOT hers. I mean seriously, this C___ (MD pussy doctor) makes each month what I spend on a couple bottles of very good Champagne every week or so.

So NOW she has received the WORD FROM ON HIGH and says, no condom, no fuck. I was too tired to waste another moment after a long, brutal day in the "coal mines" dealing with wealthy business owners. I needed to rest and forget about 22 y/o "spoiled davao pussy". I told her we would discuss this later. Called the next night and she informed me that she would NOT meet me in Manila (GREAT) and "no sex in Davao" (That's what you think Queen Mary. Davao is overflowing with willing pussy).

Jade from Davao, with the "perfect tits," IM'd me this evening while I was working online. SHe is in Manila so I told her we could meet in Makati CIty soon. I may spend a couple days there after all. I should have something worthwhile to Post from Davao soon anyway.

My little dwarf wants me to meet again also. So does the 38b tits you can see on a Post here. I missed her last time due to the 22 y/o. I will NOT make this mistake again. I have not called or IM'd the young Eve in Davao due to work and thinking the 22 y/o would occupy my time again. I will call her this evening.

Dragon Slayer

For all you guys planing to come out here in the next couple of weeks, this is to alert all hands that summer school starts during the week of April 17. This means, of course, that the first installment of tuition is due this week, which means of course that opportunities will abound among the "tuition mama" set. All the bars on Rizal and the surrounding areas should be jumping.

Happy hunting...


:D

GE

DS, thanks for the laugh. Probably good to leave that one alone. If you do FK her she's going to imagine that's she's pregnant. Some of them really want to be pregnant.....

"oh, I missed my period by one day...i'm pregnant...what should I do?"

Funny thing, the lady who sent me that message never contacted me again. I would have waited nine months and would have taken some responsibility if a blood test had proven that I was the dude. But, she was just testing me...or maybe wondering if I was a sucker.

GE, these tuition girls you've mentioned SEVERAL times...I'd really like to know what is going on here. If it's a school holiday, it makes sense that the bars are full of students. What is it that makes you thing these ladies are out selling booty? And since there are so few foreigners in Davao, what make you think they are going to cozy up to some middle aged git like me?

Is this thinking all based on presumptions? If you've dipped your wick in the "student" population (I know you have), what is the number of samples? I don't doubt your premise, it's just that I assume most students are depending on their family for tuition money. I also assume most students, as would be expected of normal Philipinos, would put a premium on their reputation.

Last, but not least, maybe you should start a scholarship fund. Tell me where to send the money!

X

[QUOTE=X Man]
Last, but not least, maybe you should start a scholarship fund. Tell me where to send the money!
X[/QUOTE]

Okay Xman, I will start the fund today with your donation. I'll even give you a seat on the Board of Directors! Please send cash though.

I'm not sure I can explain the "tuition mama" phenomonon. I do know, from having spoken to my lady's friends and from very personal (and repeated) experience, that these kids rarely have enough money and some of them see nothing at all wrong with augmenting whatever their families give them by going after guys with money. For others, screwing guys for money is how they put themselves through school. They don't seem to have any problems with this approach at all.

Most of the students here who are not in summer school go back to their provinces where their families live. They don't have the money to hang around Davao and go to bars. Remember that most of the kids in school here do not come from wealthy families. Also remember that often there's a very fine, and often indistinguishable line between "normal" girls, be they students, office workers or whatever, and pros.

As to my "sample size" the truth is, I don't know, as I do not keep records. My conclusions however, are not based only on my own direct experience, but also on that of several friends who have also passed time with representatives of the student population of Davao. I've even met girls from some of the pick-up bars claiming to be students, who were working at the bar to earn school funds.

Check it out for yourself the next time you're here for one of our board meetings.

:D

GE

Thanks for the extra info GE,

I've talked / flirted with college girls in both Manila and Cebu and never felt like there was a chance in hell I was going to get anywhere. They were polite and on a few occasions I even got a date, but that was all I got.

I've met ladies at LA Cafe and other known pick up sites who claimed to be students. I don't know that they were, but I have no reason not to believe them. One of them is in the Paco Park photo series I did back in January.

X

Pals,

I cuaght GE s he was touring the road to CDO. I am touring the road to bed shortly. I am losing the ballte in the corporate jungle I think. My 22 y/o refused to take my calls last Sat/Sun in the Phils. I had a IM waiting for me the other day as I sat at m desk and logged in to do some work.

SHe said I do not respect her and "look down" upon her. What the fuck? All I did was ask her to see a doctor about taking birth control. I did not even ridicule her when she informed me of the "useful advice" the doctor gave her. s might fuck the doctor as well when I get back (why not? She had figurately fucked me.).

The reason for my reqest was simple. I like this girl but no need to have children together yet. Remember my Post in early Feb? I mentioned how I did not expect anything to happen with her. I also mentioned that I was totaly unprepared with no concoms, only good champagne (the important things). What I did NOT mention here or anywhere was that as I departed for the USA, by way of Hong Kong (could not forget the lady there whom I met at baggabe claim 6 months earlier) my lovely 22 y/o gave me some parting words, "honey I think I am pregnant. Are you happy?"

Yes, I was exstatic. I had no problem slamming down the liquor that evening in HK. I am one man who is not 'short" on children. THe two I have are keeping my wallet empty, thankyou. Turned out it was "wishful thinking" on her part. I just wanted to keep this from becoming reality any time soon.

As to other co-eds in Davao. The RealJean that I met at Ground Zero and fucked in GE's livingroom as the "Big Fella" (GE's german shepard) reamed her asshole (kinky sucker that he was) was 19 and a college freshman. She was also, as she put it, a part time "B___Girl", another Davao term for prostitute. Cost me P600 for each 24 hrs with her and she used this money each time I paid her to buy clothes and get her hair and nails done.

Dragon Slayer

DS is correct of course. The dividing line between students, "part time b girls" and outright hookers is thin and, in many cases, simply invisible. This isn't unique to the PI by any means. It's very common in every African country I've ever visited.

Sorry about that call DS. I was in the mountains and the cell signal wasn't very strong. We are in CDO now, and the signal strength has been restored. Might go to Camiguin on Friday for a couple of days just to see the place. It's supposed to have great beaches.

:D

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]

Sorry about that call DS. I was in the mountains and the cell signal wasn't very strong. We are in CDO now, and the signal strength has been restored. Might go to Camiguin on Friday for a couple of days just to see the place. It's supposed to have great beaches.

:D

GE[/QUOTE]True,Try the black volcanic sand beaches for some variety and the white island sand bar is also great.cheers

[QUOTE=Dragon Slayer] All I did was ask her to see a doctor about taking birth control. [/QUOTE]Unless you are certain that HK shares your desire not to become pregnant, I would not trust her to take oral contraceptives regularly. Here is a better method:

Go to any pharmcay in the RP and buy a packet of Femenal oral contraceptives. Inform your HK that you are not going to have sex without a condom unless she agrees to take 2 pills immediately plus 2 more 12 hours later--then WATCH HER TAKE THEM. CHECK UNDER HER TONGUE AFTER SHE SAYS SHE SWALLOWED THEM THEN KEEP HER IN YOUR SIGHT FOR THE NEXT 20 MINUTES, WHICH IS ABOUT HOW LONG TO BE SURE THE PILLS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ABSORBED INTO HER SYSTEM.

Another option (especially now that Femenal has become difficult to find in the RP) is to bring some Plan B tabs from your country--this is better in that she will only need to take 1 pill every 12 hours for a total of 2 (but worse in that this regimen is a lot more expensive).

Pals,

I got a call late lst night on my cellphone from GE. I told him my plan was to go to the UK next week and fly to the Phils the end of May. That has all changed in the 12 hours since speaking with him. I made my final decision based on a number of factors and went "hard on the money" purchsing my ticket. I will be in Davao by May 1 after a brief weekend with my lovely lady in Hong Kong with the huge tits.

This is the young lady who assisted me with my bags at baggage claim in Hong Kong last August when I was flying from Manila. I finally got around to meeting her again last February and spent a great evening in Hong Kong sucking her huge tits and fucking like crazy. And peole constantly ask me how meet women. This one sort of found me.

She has the weekend off from work so this makes it convenient as I could secure the best flights from my City on a Thursday. I spent literally hours checking flights and hotels for both Asia and the UK. Availability of each Lady was a factor as both work full time jobs.

In the Phils I have to work out the situation with my 22 y/o in Davao. Spoke with my Nephew in NYPD late last night after GE (was one long night). He has been calling her 21 y/o sister, Rose and appears to be moving forward. I may spend an evening or two at Ground Zero and then on to Rizal Promenade and Venue Plaza. I will attempt entice GE to accompany me purely for his companionship as I hunt the formidable and not too elusive Davao Pussy; an impressive beast if ever there was one.

I will be posting here frequently when I arrive. Look for my Posts in Hong Kong, So China, Makati and Cebu also. Should an intrepid reader choose to travel by chance to Davao at this time, you can spot me at the above mentioned sights, as well as Henny's two fine establishments.

Should anyone ask how we met, simply say at O'Flanagan's, where else?

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

I will arrive here May 1. Got my ticket from HK to Manila at Expedia.com for much less than I ever paid in Manila, Davao, Cebu or even China over the last three years I have been doing this additional leg ( did it twelve previous trips).

During a Client Meeting this afternoon I recieved a call on my private cellphone. This phone never rings as few have it (GE is only man in Asia with it and 3 women there). I almost let it "ringoff" but I noticed the number on caller ID. I apologized to my Client and said "this has to be important". It was.

Worst part is that no one was around to share my great news with. No friends as it was Saturday evening and I could NOT reach my Nephew in NYPD or GE. I settled for going out and getting wasted.

I will celebrate both in Cebu and Davao. I hope to see you then.

Dragon Slayer

[QUOTE=Dragon Slayer]Pals,

I will arrive here May 1. Got my ticket from HK to Manila at Expedia.com for much less than I ever paid in Manila, Davao, Cebu or even China over the last three years I have been doing this additional leg ( did it twelve previous trips).

During a Client Meeting this afternoon I recieved a call on my private cellphone. This phone never rings as few have it (GE is only man in Asia with it and 3 women there). I almost let it "ringoff" but I noticed the number on caller ID. I apologized to my Client and said "this has to be important". It was.

Worst part is that no one was around to share my great news with. No friends as it was Saturday evening and I could NOT reach my Nephew in NYPD or GE. I settled for going out and getting wasted.

I will celebrate both in Cebu and Davao. I hope to see you then.

Dragon Slayer[/QUOTE]Sounded like good news,So Whatever it is was Congratulations to you.I have always enjoyed reading about your adventures.Cheers

CebuLocal,

Thankyou for your kind words. Thanks also to GoodEnough for his words of congratulations. I slept only a few hours today after drinking/clelbrating alone last night. Even though it was Saturday I had to awake very early. My taking this upcoming Trip forces me to continue working everyday. The Client I met with this morning gave me the warmest words in the 22 years he has been with me and slapped my back as he left.

It is nice to have friends who are happy for your happiness. Look forward to seeing many of you next week.

Dragon Slayer

GE was last heard from headed to Camiguin. I was planning to go there myself in the near future.

DS says he couldn't contact GE and GE hasn't posted here in a while.

Should we send out the search parties?

Nah, he's probably enjoying a well deserved vacation, hanging out on the beach, buying new bikinis for his friends, drinking heavily....

I'll be looking forward to the trip reports.

X

Dang,

I just realized DS and I might be in Davao at the same time.

I just want to warn you DS, I look dangerous, have been known to drink other people's wine, sometimes wear backpacker gear, sweat like a pig in the Philippine summer, and, BRACE YOURSELVES, have been known to pick up a steak knive.

But, I assure you I'm completely harmless...although possibly annoying after a few too many drinks.

Oh, one more thing. I am very appreciative of attractive women...

But I would no more chase another man's woman, than I would drink from another man's glass of wine. A bottle on the table is a different sort of thing...

*** If anyone is confused by this post, you have to go back a month or two and read all the Davao posts. ***

X

I spoke to GE at considerable length Sunday afternoon (early morning in Phils). I would explain why he has not posted but I assume he would prefer to do this himself. He sounded good and excited about recent events. I will see him in seven days.

X Man,

Should be more than enough wine to go around. Henny opended a second Restaurant in the same courtyard off Rizal Street. I am looking forward to visiting it.

Looks like I will NOT be seeing my 22 y/o in Davao. I lost interest in this recently and events of this past weekend make it completely irrelevent. My nephew, the young policeman in NYC is still commmunicating with Rose. I was unable to reach him by phone Saturday evening to update him on matters. I was unavailable when he returned my call last evening.

In my last conversation with him he suggested that in as much as Elaine was pissed off at me (wanted her to commence birth control), he would take on the responsibility of fucking both her and Rose, her younger sister. When GE heard this, he replied, "hey, there's a thought". Jade still wants to accompany me back to Davao where I first met her last Feb '06. Jade is one of only four women I have ever had that possess "perfect tits". A genuine "rack", perfectly round, full breasts that while not huge (I hate basketball size tits) are too big for her figure.

My return to Davao is still a week away; half a lifetime by Davao occurrences. Anything can happen between now and then.

Dragon Slayer

I guess it has been a while since I posted here. The reason is that I've been somewhat incapacitated for the last couple of weeks, having torn some ligaments in my ankle, and been reduced to staying in bed, foot elevated, in a cast. What a pain in the ass! Having partially recovered, I decided that enough was enough, removed the cast and can now at least hobble around. Hopefully the improvements will continue. Xman, that's why I haven't responded to your email. Sorry, but I just haven't been able to access my computer for a couple of weeks, nor have I felt like it.

As DS says, Henny has opened a new place, directly across the terrace from his current restaurant. I had a lovely paella there last night. The menu is mainly spanish, with assorted tapas, paellas of various kinds, good booze, outdoor and indoor seating, and pleasant surroundings. You can order from either of the restaurants. The place is so new that even Henny doesn't know what kind of crowd it will eventually attract. I did note however, last night, a really stunning, and definitely available woman at Someplace Else. She kept looking at my friend who was sitting with us, and I guess she's a regular there. I think her name is Jean and if she's ever around whenever any of you guys are around she is surely worth a second and even a third glance. She's relatively tall, thin, has what appears to be a great body, and oceans of long, black hair.

I went for lunch today to a new, recently-developed area of town just off of JP Laurel, across from the Swiss Deli. There's a small, new development with several coffee houses and restaurants, among which is a newly-opened branch of Tsuru, the Slayer's favorite Japanese restaurant here. I had lunch there and it was excellent. A fixed price Sushi with Miso soup for P500, and there was a lot of food. I have no idea what this area is like in the evening. It may be dead. However, it's got some intriguing possiblities and I will surely check it out during the nocturnal hours once Slayer gets to town.

I have another friend here who has been making his virgin tour of all the Davao boites. He reports that Hot Legs II is by far the best that he's seen, and he's been well-satisfied with his experiences there. His information is a lot more current than mine, so some of you might find it useful.

Slayer, I just spoke to Cebu Local, who may actually be in Davao while you're here. If so, he will join us for dinner at Henny's place.

:D

GE

GE Thank you for a great time.It was fantastic.About the person,I am starting the training and I think It will be fun Cheers

[QUOTE=Dragon Slayer].....Jade is one of only four women I have ever had that possess "perfect tits". A genuine "rack", perfectly round, full breasts that while not huge (I hate basketball size tits) are too big for her figure....
Dragon Slayer[/QUOTE]

Hey Slayer, Any chance of getting a look at those perfect tits?

Davao sounds like a good destination. Are you the Honorary Mongering Mayor? I may visit my next time I'm in PI. What is the current situation regarding Americans traveling there? Any troubles there with the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF)?

nocbj4me

Pals,

Not much to Post. Have to be in the mood for this. I will Post Jade's nude photos later here. Same for Elaine as I see no reason NOT to put her tits here. Her age really shows in some of her recent messages to me. Not sure why I bothered to bring my laptop as all three Hotels I have stayed at had no internet access. I am here in some dump in cebu now getting messages.

I had to listen to Mae here tell me how she needed money. I gave her P1500 just to fuckoff. Had to listen to Elaine's text messages explaining her idea of Life. Like she knows a fucking thing. I have to decide soon who to have over the Hotel tonight. I might drop by Silver Dollar first as I always enjoy that Place.

I had a good time with CebuLocal and GoodEnough in Makati City the past few days. Good Times and Good Friends. We celebrated the birth of my Son, my first and only Son. His mother was sweet enough to fly with him to Manila on short notice.

I am anxious to get to Davao now. Life always goes much easier there.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

I plan to arrive solo as i need some fuck time. So far it has been mainly being a father this Trip. Not bad but no sex. My Lady is occupied with my son and this will continue for some time. I am basically a piece of furniture now. My two little girls are in summer school six days a week. Their mother mostly wants to kill me (probably has good reason). Got a phone call from my Annie while buying wine and champagne at Tinder Box here in Cebu this morning.. She is on a Trip in Malaysia.

In Davao I have Eve, Eden, Apple and Erica. Something has to happen as I told all four I would meet them. Plan to make certain Elaine is aware of this.

New Headquarters for the Davao Team Meetings is Henny's. We rarely go to O'Flanagans now. Better a/c, food, wine and pussy at Henny's. Last week we interviewed CebuLocal in GE's Suite at the Dusit Hotel and today we voted him into the Davao Team over the phone. I have his shirt with me to present him at his Induction Ceremony next week. First new member in two years. We have been a bit laxed on recruitment as it cuts into
our "pussy time".

Dragon Slayer

[QUOTE=Dragon Slayer]Pals,

I plan to arrive solo as i need some fuck time. So far it has been mainly being a father this Trip. Not bad but no sex. My Lady is occupied with my son and this will continue for some time. I am basically a piece of furniture now. My two little girls are in summer school six days a week. Their mother mostly wants to kill me (probably has good reason). Got a phone call from my Annie while buying wine and champagne at Tinder Box here in Cebu this morning.. She is on a Trip in Malaysia.

In Davao I have Eve, Eden, Apple and Erica. Something has to happen as I told all four I would meet them. Plan to make certain Elaine is aware of this.

New Headquarters for the Davao Team Meetings is Henny's. We rarely go to O'Flanagans now. Better a/c, food, wine and pussy at Henny's. Last week we interviewed CebuLocal in GE's Suite at the Dusit Hotel and today we voted him into the Davao Team over the phone. I have his shirt with me to present him at his Induction Ceremony next week. First new member in two years. We have been a bit laxed on recruitment as it cuts into
our "pussy time".

Dragon Slayer[/QUOTE]Guys I am honored and grateful for my invitation to join Team Davao.Davao is really a pleasant little city,It is laid back and relaxed and CHEAPER then AC,Manila and a bit cheaper then Cebu.The women there are not are hardened as the Manila and AC women.DS I am glad you were able to get a room,But Cebu was absolutely crazy last week due to some convention.GE I finally tried her yesterday and you were right She was inexperienced but eager to try new things and a fast learner.But I paled in comparison to the master.She kept on saying I learned this and that from the Master.But I made a contribution to her skills,Showed her the Pics from a Joy of Sex Book and straight into practical application,Overall a great experience.Thanks again

DS/CL:

Thanks for the great times last week in Manila. The champagne and the chocolats were wonderful, and the company was excellent, the baby adorable, and the traffic unbearable.

CL, I'm glad you enjoyed the neophyte, and I'm always happy to have made a contribution, however small, to her expertise. I'm sure you took it to the next level.

Once again, it's exam time here in Davao for all of the summer school students, and once again the streets a thronged with tuition mamas struggling to pay that last installment. Looking forward to DS' arrival here in the laid back city.

:D

GE

Pals,

I arrive here on Wednesday. This is short as my lvely, pixie from Cebu is with me now. She is wonderful. Had to wire money to my daughters mother and am making plans for Mothers' Day and how to be in two places same day. I am sure i will think of something.

I did not even realize there was a poll to kick guys off the Board. Some guy PM'd me asking my input and I got GE to vote also. Guy I would LOVE to see kicked off is NOT on the poll so my interest is minimal at best.

Last night was great and I will be having fun tonight with my 24 y/o "pixie". She may accompany me here as she is sweet and with a body I would cut my left nut off to have.

Dragon Slayer

Like DS, I never paid much attention to the polls to sequester members who are "serial antagonists" until Domino was victimized. I've always enjoyed Domino's quirky humor and sarcasm. How did that happen? I guess I needed to pay attention to these polls.

I don't seem Junior as a problem, rather someone who HAS contributed information. Those who have voted to sequester him, could you please state the reasons.

X

I have just spoken to the Dragon Slayer and have confirmed that he is arriving, with company, today. This means that things should definitely pick up in the staid city of Davao for several days as he and I endeavor to spread good cheer wherever we go. Will probably eat tonight at Henny's new place and then, who knows.

Cebu Local, can we expect to see your smiling face here this week? You need to pick up your "Team Davao" shirt.

:D

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I have just spoken to the Dragon Slayer and have confirmed that he is arriving, with company, today. This means that things should definitely pick up in the staid city of Davao for several days as he and I endeavor to spread good cheer wherever we go. Will probably eat tonight at Henny's new place and then, who knows.

Cebu Local, can we expect to see your smiling face here this week? You need to pick up your "Team Davao" shirt.

:D

GE[/QUOTE]Yes,I have a meeting with the Pearl farm people,So I have to be there Cheers CL

Pals,

Using the Hotel computer. Not sure if it will Post. I have been having fun but it is much quieter than previous trips. However the week is young and so am I. Anything can fucking happen. This IS DAVAO.

Dragon Slayer

DS, are you posting from CasaL rental computer? Although I loved the cubical privacy, I had nothing but trouble with that computer. And overpriced as well.

Can anyone recommend a good net cafe in Davao?

I did find one place I liked, but it's a bit out of the way. Now, what's the name and location.....???????

X

Pals,

She was leaning over me as i relaxed in the warm water of the large bathtub. She genlty bathed my body as her lovely, round tits hung in front of my eyes. I had to take one into my mouth. Sucking the tit, I heard her moan softly, "ooh baby, so nice. So nice Babe". My dick was the size of a small island and rearing its head above the surface of the tub water. She reached out and began stroking it as I sucked away on her beautiful tit.

X-Man now what was your question???

I am now at the Chikkachat Internet Cafe on Illustre Street two blocks from ground zero. The lovely Pizie just departed by taxi for the Airport. I am now solo. Not certain how long I will go it alone here. Could be as much as a few hours.

This place has nice chairs and cubicles offering a little privacy. Some asshole is pounding away at something here so I have to get out. Back at Casa Leticia some guy was on the internet causing me to head here early in the morning.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

I will meet GoodEnough later. He has been a little "under the weather" so I will try to cheer him up with nude photos of Pixie and Elaine, the 22 y/o from last Trip here.

I have a lot to Post but this guy with the fucking hammer is telling me and everyone else here to clear out. He must think we are all deaf as he hammers away like a madman at a repair shop.

My baby son is fine and with his lovely mother. GE and CebuLocal met him at 10 days old. GE had a few notable comments: "you think he would at least dress in black" "Is he getting any pussy?". "When will he begin to Post on the Davao Board?". and "Does he drink his champagne from a glass or his baby bottle?".

Dragon Slayer

As the DS said in his latest post, I have been somewhat limited in my movements, due to the fact that I broke a bone in my foot and, while waiting for it to heal, have become largely housebound. This however, has not stopped the Slayer from sharing with me several bottles of superb wine and champagne. In fact, last night, in addition to the fine French wines, he brought me a steak tartar from the best French restuarant in town! Now, I'm indebted to him not only for magnificent wines, but for culinary treats as well. Needless to say, the Slayer was accompanied, during his visits with me, by lovely, young women who were not only beautiful to look at, but who were bright, articulate, and charming as well. Well done my friend!

I know a lot of people with excellent taste in wines and good food. The Slayer however, is the only one who leaves nothing to chance, and brings his own cache of wine and champagne with him wherever he travels. Now this is evidence of a man who is totally commited to the good life. As the stuff that he brings with him is typically far better than the quality available in Davao, it's been a real treat for my tongue and palate as well.

So, DS, thanks for a great week. I'll miss your presence here. Hopefully I'll be walking somewhat better on your return.

The women with whom DS spent his time here were, in all respects, "normal" ladies, with good jobs, decent educations and good manners. This proves what he and I have contended for a long time, namely that it's just not necessary to frequent the bars and the pick-up joints. I'll leave it to him to share his secrets of success, but believe me when I say that any effort he may have devoted to the identification and pursuit of these ladies was well worth the time and trouble.

:D

GE

Anyone know of a website that can provide me with a relatively good street map of Davao.

Thank you.

Send me a pm with your email address and I'll send you photos of my Davao map. Give me an idea of what you want. Any pic I post here has to be scaled down and you lose detail.

X

Looking at the map pic I posted, I thought I should explain a few things.

The parallel streets C. Bangoy and C.M. Recto are running north/south. So looking at the image, north is actually at about 30degrees.

Rizal promenade is on Rizal st just a short walk from Legazpi, on the right side. Keep walking and you will find Chicos on the left. Behind Chico's is Henny's place Bonte....whatever. I can never remmeber the name. You could walk into Chicos, use the back door and exit into a courtyard where there is a bar and the two restaurants run by Henny. Or walk around Chicos to the right or left and you will find the restuarants.

You can't go wrong with the food at Hennys. I also had some good food at a Chinese restaurant. I think that was somewhere around Legazpi and Duterte.

Streetwalkers can be found here and there, but I found a real gem on Bonifacio St, I think at the intersection of C. Bangoy. (see pic) I think Hot legs is on the same street, but I didn't think much about the Davao go gos. Too dark to see anything.

Flanigans is on Ilustre (a block behind Casa Leticia Hotel). Going north from Casa Leticia you will find Ground Zero, the convenience store which has outdoor seating. I've seen cute girls there, but never felt comfortable hitting on women there since there are so many drunk Fil guys there.

Along J.P. Laurel you will find two malls. Victoia Plaza and Gaisano Mall. I prefer Gaisano in all respects.

Davao finally has a Bo's Coffee. I saw it when I came in from the airport. It's too bad it's in such an out of the way place. So far no Bo's in the mall, like you would see in the Cebu malls.

Pals,

In Cebu playing Father. Doubt any would want to hear as I amcertain you know about this. I did meet CebuLocal last night and had a great dinner at Crossroads Plaza after drinks with CebuLocal at Cafe Adriatico's.

Ground Zero is safe. i was there every night for a month. No trouble ever. Sometimes the women approach you. Mostly, I offer to but them a drink or would ask the waiters to make the Offer on my behalf. The place is good from 7:00PM on but the crowd declines after 10:00PM as there are not many "nice ladies" hanging out then. Women are here and all around this area till 02"30AM. Some filipino barbecue joints there stay open till 03:OOAM.\

Rizal Promenade gets going after 10:00PM and is good Wed through Sat nights. Lots of women when the band is playing. Stays open till 04:30AM on weekends.

Be back end of July as my Son will be christened then. Huge Party as I have only this one son.

Dragon Slayer

GoodEnough,

As always it was fun. See you soon and I will be in touch from USA. THANKYOU, Pal.

I will post photos when I get home. I will stop in China on way home as Jing (her photos are here) is waiting for me. If you check her photos you will understand this detour.

Have to go as my Son is getting irritable and we need to eat.

Dragon Slayer

[QUOTE=Dragon Slayer]Pals,

In Cebu playing Father. Doubt any would want to hear as I amcertain you know about this. I did meet CebuLocal last night and had a great dinner at Crossroads Plaza after drinks with CebuLocal at Cafe Adriatico's.

.

Be back end of July as my Son will be christened then. Huge Party as I have only this one son.

Dragon Slayer[/QUOTE]Thanks again,I will advice you about having the corkage waived for the party.See you there

Guys:

I got a call from the DS last night. He's in China with the lovely Jing and tells me that he may never go home again as he is just remembering how truly delightful she is. Apparently, he's having an even better time there than he did in Davao, and he had a great time in Davao.

I would provide additional details, as he requested, but I'm jealous and don't want to dwell on what I imagine he is doing with with whom he's doing it, so you can await his post on the subject.

To be honest, I never heard of Davao until I came to this website.

With all due respect to GE and DS, the Davao thread is already a very select destination, a pristine destination, a place only Philippine conneisurs would go. Whoever suggested a Davao thread, I applaud you.

With all due respect....
Whatever and whoever DS is slopping around with in China is irrelevant. DS, no offense.

Good night.

X

It may actually have been the Dragon Slayer. Certainly when I first started to post, he was the most prolific and enthusiastic contributor. As to Davao being for the "connoiseur," I'm not sure I agree. I think it's a great place for anyone wanting to take advantage of what the city has to offer.

:D

GE

Pals,

Home and working now. I joined WSG in 2003 and began to Post ONLY on the Thailand Board. I discovered the Davao Board in October 2003 as I was reviewing various areas in the Philippines. The Davao Board then had twelve (12) Posts over two years. These Posts dealt primarily with how dangerous it was in Davao and that no westerner (or Asian) should EVER go here.

I first posted here in October 2003. I mentioned that I had been visiting Davao on a regular basis for five years and never had any problems or concerns about danger. Shortly after this a man callig himslef GoodEnough posted here. He stated that he had just moved to Davao and was checking out the nightlife. He then had a few more Posts about meeting pussy in d/t Davao. I chimed in with my experiences here.

In December 2003 GoodEnough posted about this great little spot on the corner of J Camus & Illustre Sts where he found many lovely filipinas hanging out in the evening. This soon became known as Ground Zero. In the beginning of 2004 GE and I met at Sturo Restaurant on J Camus, together wiht my lovely Annie (now in Singapore). We then ventured out to Ground Zero and I stated, "this Place is a Davao Pussy Gold Mine". The following evening, Alone, GE and I scored our first Davao Pussy as a Team at Ground Zero. We then formed the Davao Team.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

When I was at that internet cafe last week I would have posted more but this guy was pounding away in there giving me an awful headache at 08:30AM. I had to get out. It was a decent Internet Cafe if anyone needs one in d/t Davao. I left the name and location on my Post last week. It is on Illustre St 2 blocks down from O'Flanagan's on the opposite side of the street.

I mentioned being solo after Pixie left to return to work. It took 8 1/2 hours for me to find a replacement. I took Chem, Pixie's replacement, over to GE's home that evening. Over wine I showed him Chem's nude photos on my digital cam as she was in the bathroom. This was to cheer him up as he was a little "down" then. This perked him up quite a bit.

Chem is a gorgeous woman with lovely tits and a very sexy figure. I met her on the internet in March and told her of my plans to return here. Soon after she was showing me her tits on cam. Later she began to show her pussy and then totally nude. She is a very sensual woman.

She arrived at my Hotel exactly 8 1/2 hours after Pixie departed. She sat on the couch in the Presidential Suite and invited me to sit beside her. I began to kiss her neck and view the lovely cleavage showing from her blouse. I started to kiss the top of her tits that was exposed. She said, "you saw them on webcam". I pulled a tit out of her blouse and said, "now, I want to suck on them", and began to suck in earnest.

She unbuttoned my shirt and pulled it off me as I lifted her blouse off and unhooked her bra, exposing her large, lovely rack. She began to stroke my cock through my pants and then unbuckeled my pants and pulled them down exposing my cock. She stood, removed her pants and panties and promptly swung over onto my cock, burying it inside her. She rode my cock, hanging onto my neck and I just grabbed onto her lovely ass. She fucked me like this for 20 minutes until I exploded inside her. She then snuggled in my arms and lay there for half an hour without saying anything.

We moved to the large bed and I already had a stiff dick pointing skyward. She again got on top and stuck it inside her and began fucking quickly, screaming outloud. No need to guess if she was enjoying herself as she yelled, "I'm cumming Baby. Baby i'm cumming". We fucked for a good 40 minutes with her cumming outloud twice and then I exploed inside her. We had fucked less then ten minutes after her arrival and twice in less than 90 minutes. No viagra and at 05:00AM that morning Pixie had given me a great "farewell fucking".

We parted the next afternon, having fucked four times in 18 hours. The first three times I did not use any V as I did not need it. This lady is fabulous. I have had several IM's left for me from her since and I will spend a lot more time with her when I return.

I had to leave Davao as I wanted to see my infant spon again and his mother. I also had to see my Attorney in Cebu City pertaining to various matters before the weekend. Chem had to return to work as she had a six day work week scheduled and got emergency leave when she heard at the last minute that I was there.

This is the one problem with ladies like Pixie, Cham, my Son's Mother, the 22 y/o Elaine in Davao and many others I have been fortunate to meet. They have regular, full time jobs and it is difficult for them to get time off without a few weeks advance notice. This limits the time that any of them can spend with me, though I never had trouble getting one to go directly from work to my hotel and then go directly back from my hotel to work in the morning. However, beautiful Cham has a young daughter that she left with the nanny and this was also a factor. She is a wonderful, hot lady. Please, I will NOT be sharing her so do not ask.

Dragon Slayer

Okay, so it was not the DS who started this board. It was he however, who gave it an impetus by reanimating it with all of his posts. I joined in only after he began to post. I'm not sure if I "discovered" Ground Zero or not. I thought the DS and I found it together. Regardless of the discovery credit though, it was definitely the Slayer who dubbed it "Ground Zero."

I did meet Chem when the Slayer brought her over, together with some lovely French wine and even some food from Claude's restaurant. She is a very,very pretty girl and promptly entwined herself around the Slayer's neck while sitting on my sofa. I'm sure they could have done it again right there, but didn't for propriety's sake, though they could have taken one of the empty bedrooms.

Slayer, the next time you're here, we need to check out a place called "Hug Me." It's not new but I've never been there. I think it's pretty near Henny's place, and I'm told that though it's a little sleazy, it does have some really good looking hostesses/dancers/GROs or whatever.

:D

GE

I wonder, do you guys always use condoms when you bang different girls you pick up in the bars or places in Davao? or are the gurls in Davao pretty much safe? If so, what is the best and thinnest condom brand you recommend, especially for anal intercourse?

(the reason is i have a GF in Manila who wants to try anal intercourse but told her I can only do it with a condom and KY jelly) Any tips?

I am a Pinoy, on my forties, from the US, and now a US citizen.

I plan to visit Davao alone on June 20 for about 4 days. I intend to snorkel and scuba dive, taste the exotic fruits, durian, suha, rambutan, etc. Can anyone recommend some nice dive spots and must things to do and see in Davao and of course where to get class A pussy, even if i had to pay more. Thanks to your reply.

I would also like to meet anyone on this board who may be in Davao by that time and buy a round or two of drinks to offer my friendship. Pls. PM me if interested and to schedule our meeting in Davao.

Thanks

Midas:

Aside from the condom issue, on which I can offer no particular expertise, I believe all of your other questions have been answered several times on this board. I would suggest that, when you get here, you contact either Wind and Wave or Pro Dive, both of which arrange scuba trips on most week ends. They know all of the good spots here including Coral Gardens and Aundanao.

Send me a PM when you get here and, if I'm diving during that time, I'll be happy to invite you along with my group.

:D

GE

I think Japanese condoms are the thinnest you'll find, although I never tried shit packing with them.

x

[QUOTE=X Man]I think Japanese condoms are the thinnest you'll find[/QUOTE]
Just getting back from the RP and ran out of my usual brand "Lifestyles" (ironically manufactured in Thailand). Bought some Japanese condoms at Mercury Drug and 2 out 3 in the pack broke.

Pals,

Same happened to me in So China Dec '05 with a local condom. I smashed through it like the "Man of Steel" while fucking Hong, a beautiful Shenzhen Lady. I think it is best to bring your own quality, latex condoms. If unavailable, try Rose Pharmacy on Ilustre St down from O'Flanagan's Pub and across from the mall.

Hot Legs II is my favorite spot in d/t Davao for professional pussy. Like Hot Legs I nearby , it is dark inside. This has to do with the "side action" taking place. Girls cruise the tables. I stuck a P20 bill and 2 fingers up the pussy of a nude "dancer" who cruised our table. A quiet corner and a Lady's Drink would have a girl pulling out your dick and giving a "courtesy handjob". A bit more would get a decent blowjob.

Talking with my nephew last night, Rose, 21 y/o sister of the 22 y/o I was fucking in Davao in Feb '05 (photos here), got talking about the Pearl Farm Resort. I have never visited this place. Anyone have any particulars on it? Any pussy to be had here or is it strictly bring your own? What are the rates/night?

Last week I visited Chico's on Rizal St together with my Pixie. The music was ok and drinks were cheap. There was no pussy hanging around. We also stopped at Toto's Club on the roof of Casa Leticia. This place is beautiful with great views from the windows of d/t Davao. We snuggled together on the tatami mats like I did with Elaine (Rose's sister) last Feb. Sadly, we were the only customers in the entire Club. As nice as this place is, it is unfortunate that it gets such limited patronage.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

Maurice O'Flanagan's falls short of being a "classy place". However, I still like it. My first visit here was the night I scored my first Ground Zero pussy. I dropped by twice this trip. Maurice has taken leave to work on some project in the States. No one was quite certain when he would return. My understanding is that he is keeping his return qiet, especially from his wife in Davao. She is now running the place. Hours have been reduced to 3:00PM till 11:00Pm. Who the fuck ever heard of an Irish Pub closing at 11:00PM?? This is a fucking disgrace.

I stopped by for a late lunch with Pixie at 3:30PM and then tried to go back at 11:30PM on Friday night for a drink but it was closed. I used to drink here till 02:30AM with Maurice and some of the local Expats (generally a good bunch). Came back at 10:15PM Saturday night with Pixie and we were the only patrons. With Maurice gone and his wife running it, the place cannot even hold its own. To think this is the same fine establishment where I got an awesome handjob from lovely Apple in May 2004 (Apple's photos can be found in May '04 here).

While having Bailey's and ice cream together with Pixie, I heard from Whing (long time waitress here) that the place may be for sale. Now this has me thinking. I do not know anything about restuarant operation but I still may consider something along this line. This is something to discuss with my son's mother.

The place needs to be brightened up and the decor could use a total makeover. Maurice once had the idea of having cute, young filipinas around on Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights to talk with the men and give some TLC (Slayer handjob perhaps). This lasted all of two weeks. He said the wives of the men complained. Actually, I think it is his wife that complained. I have seen very few wives of local men ever in there. Plus, many of these guys spend next to nothing. It is the single touriists and local expants and the Slayer that spend money in his Place.

I think having more lovely ladies in the place would help. The food is great and very reasonable by even Davao is "sound system" is an 30 year old tape player and a half dozen cassettes from the 60's & 70's. The mural on the inside wall needs to be used as firewood. The a/c needs a new unit that actually keeps the place cool and some decent lighting would help greatly.

I will ponder this some more.

Dragon Slayer

[url]http://www.davaocity.gov.ph/InsiderTip.aspx[/url]

- details additional nightlife options in davao without getting into explicit details.

- I am moving mountains to free up the needed time for an extended vacation to Davao soon enough.

Congrats to DS on the birth of his son are in order.

[QUOTE}

Talking with my nephew last night, Rose, 21 y/o sister of the 22 y/o I was fucking in Davao in Feb '05 (photos here), got talking about the Pearl Farm Resort. I have never visited this place. Anyone have any particulars on it? Any pussy to be had here or is it strictly bring your own? What are the rates/night?



[/QUOTE]The Pearl Farm is the most exclusive resort on Mindanao,It is where the Rich and Famous go,Hilltop Rooms not on the water are 110$ per head Full board based on Single,Samal House on the Water are 195$ per person based on Single,It is full board so breakfast,Lunch and Dinner are covered.HOWEVER One of the top people there is a friend and former employee of mine,I can get you the Local Resident rate of 4,000 pesos for the Hilltop room instead of 110$ and 6,000 Pesos for Samal house instead of 195$.Let me know and I can take care of getting the rate.It is bring your own pussy and she will adore you for it

Pals,

Thanks CebuLocal. I could use a couple days at a lovely resort. Tout01 please PM me with your Particulars so I can get your Invitation sent to you (guest included). Planning a big celebration as this does not happen to me often (second time ever).

I hope guys will stop by Toto's on the roof of Casa Leticia. I hate to see this place not make it as it really is a classy place with incredible views. Prices were reasonable also.

I am plannig my return. Airfares are rediculous now which means I have to use the FFM. Problem is I am 19,000 short of the 120,000 needed to fly world business class. I may take a short trip somewhere next week. I have to be back the end of July no matter what.

Dragon Slayer

DS:

I forgot to mention when we spoke that I spoke to Cebu Local last night, and both of us, having been to the Pearl Farm (though I was there only for lunch), agree that it's simply not worth the price charged. The accommodations are relatively standard as is the food, and the hotel offers very little in the way of recreation. In addition, the facilities pretty much close down by 10 and there's nowhere else you can go once you're there.

I mention this here, rather than in another phone call, email or PM because I think it might be of interest to any of the guys out there who are contemplating a trip to Davao.

:D

GE

Thanks GE. This is pretty much what I heard about all luxury resorts. After 9 or 10:00PM there is not much to do and it is "every man holding himself". I visited a resort in Thailand and after two nights I had to get the fuck out. If I wanted to go to sleep by 10:00PM or sit and watch tv I could have married a fat pig here in the USA and joined the "Rank & File" work force in some "exciting" middle management job. NO THANKS.

I think this Rose is trying to get a Resort Holiday at my Nephew's expense. I will tell the kid to pass on this place. As I stated, her sister Elaine tried to contact me again. Would not see me in Davao but wants to keep the "lines of communication" open. I will mail her some of the nude photos that I took of her and she can keep those lines open.

Dragon Slayer

Thank you for the info.

I was thinking of stopping during my August trip, looks like I will stay in town. Any hotel recommendations? I am primarily interested in being within walking distance to any available action.




[QUOTE=GoodEnough]DS:

I forgot to mention when we spoke that I spoke to Cebu Local last night, and both of us, having been to the Pearl Farm (though I was there only for lunch), agree that it's simply not worth the price charged. The accommodations are relatively standard as is the food, and the hotel offers very little in the way of recreation. In addition, the facilities pretty much close down by 10 and there's nowhere else you can go once you're there.

I mention this here, rather than in another phone call, email or PM because I think it might be of interest to any of the guys out there who are contemplating a trip to Davao.

:D

GE[/QUOTE]

Will be staying for 5 days min. Ill put your maps and reports to the test... thanks for contributing guys. reports to follow.
OD

Do taxi drivers know where it is at? is it FAIRLY safe to walk around after dark? (I am staying at Marco Polo) Ive read thru this thread, but Im still kind of vague on the places to check out, what they are, and where they are.
Is there some sort of row of bars to kinda barhop? Is Hennys the best place to meet Team Davao and a few native ladies? what is the typical fare for a lady?

The airport porter was REALLY pushy... he kept cutting me off and wouldnt let me approach the carosel, then he snagged my bag claim check from me, I almost told him to back da fuck up. But I was in a pretty good mood until then, and thought he has to hustle for a dollar. Oh well...

Any extra help is appreciated
OD

Billpsu:

The action in Davao is reasonbly well spread out, and is not confined to one section of town. I would suggest a hotel that's within striking distance of Rizal St., which is also near Hot Legs I (and some of the more down market girlie bars). If you want the best hotel in Davao, then stay at the Marco Polo. You can walk from there to any of the aforementioned, but it will take you about 10 minutes more from there than from the other hotels I'll mention. The advantage is that it's significantly better than the other hotels. You might also want to consider Casa Leticia which is slightly less expensive, but a very nice place. As Dragon Slayer has pointed out, it has what is probably the nicest-looking (but sparsely populated) club. They have a couple of suite rooms which are very, very nice, but which would cost you more, I think, than a standard room in the Marco Polo.

About a block from Casa Leticia, there's the Apo View Hotel, which is within easy walking distance of Rizal St. and the girlie bars. The major advantage of this place is that it is home to Liquid, which is a nice bar, and an excellent late night pick-up place. However, the hotel itself has not had much maintenance over the years and the rooms, I'm told, are fairly run down. Around the corner and down the block from the Apo view, there's the Royal Mandaya, which is directly across the street from Hot Legs I. It has seen far, far better days, and is more run down than the Apo View, but it is convenient to Rizal St. and, as I said, the girlie bars.

You might also want to consider, depending on your budget, the Galleria Hotel, which is located near Davao Doctors Hospital near Quirino. The people whom I know who have stayed there give it high marks. All that I know is that it's got a decent lobby and it's clean and appears to be well maintained. All told, it seems like a good value, however, it's not within walking waking distance of any of the action, though it's only a short taxi ride away.

There are a lot of more down market places all over town, and they're easy to find, but I don't know much about them and I don't want to recommend any of them.

Send me a PM if you want any additional information.

:D

GE

[quote=orgasm donor]do taxi drivers know where it is at? is it fairly safe to walk around after dark? (i am staying at marco polo) ive read thru this thread, but im still kind of vague on the places to check out, what they are, and where they are.
is there some sort of row of bars to kinda barhop? is hennys the best place to meet team davao and a few native ladies? what is the typical fare for a lady?

the airport porter was really pushy... he kept cutting me off and wouldnt let me approach the carosel, then he snagged my bag claim check from me, i almost told him to back da fuck up. but i was in a pretty good mood until then, and thought he has to hustle for a dollar. oh well...

any extra help is appreciated
od[/quote]

henny's place is called "de bonte koe" (the spotted cow) and it's just off rizal st. but not really visible from the street. ask a taxi driver to take you chico's which is a large, indoor/outdoor bar and club. if you walk to the back of the parking lot next to and behind chico's you will see henny's place. if you look for the path to the right of chico's and follow it to the rear of the complex, you will wind up at the bar "someplace else" which is diagonally across a courtyard from henny's place.

the main street running in front of chico's is rizal. if you turn right on rizal from chico's and walk about a block, you will see "bar 183" and "swig" both of which are excellent pick up bars on the week ends. the bar someplace else also has a couple of nice looking waitresses and i'm sure they're available to paying clients. there are a number of smaller bars along the interior promenade which is fronted by bar 183, and there's an outdoor bar where lots of people congregate.

most of the gro-type bars are not on rizal, though there is one called "hug me" which is just around the corner. the bar "hot legs 1" is on parma gil, directly across the street from the royal mandaya hotel which, if you're going by taxi, you should give the taxi driver as your destination. the bar "hot legs 2," which has a much better selection than 1, and features full nudity, shower scenes, pussy washing (by the audience), and candle dancing, is on san pedro st. if you want to go there, tell the taxi driver to take you to city hall and when you see that building, tell him to turn right (which is the only direction he can go). the bar is about two blocks down on the left and still has the original "swag" or "swagman" sign in front.

if you're in hot legs 1 and want to try your luck at a few more down market places, leave hot legs 1, turn right, and walk up to the first intersection. then turn right. if you go about half a block, you will find a bar called "gallera" where you do not want to use the rest room, but might enjoy the fully nude show. if you don't like that, leave the bar, turn right again, cross the street and walk up another block or so where there are two bars, side-by-side. one is called "itme's" and i don't remember the name of the other. these too are fairly down market, but who knows? you might find someone you like.

in addition to the above, there are lots of karaoke places rep001tered around central davao and there's a lot of street action, most of which is centered around the "pta grounds," which, in turn, are directly across the street from the fabled "corner covenience store" which has been described in many posts written by the dragon slayer.

as to safety, there are few worries, but it always pays to be prudent. rizal is totally safe, and attracts a fairly up market crowd. the walk from hot legs 1 to the other girlie bars mentioned is a bit iffier, but still fairly safe. rizal st. aside, i would take cabs to most of the other places. taxis are cheap and safe, and to me it makes little sense to take unnecessary chances.

i think i'm the only member of team davao in town at the moment. the slayer has left, though he will return, and cebu local is usually in makati or cebu. i do not know about his travel plans. as for me, i eat at henny's place a lot, and can usually be found there on the weekends.

if you need more information, feel free to send me a pm.

:d

ge

Thanks for the walking tour... I cased out the neighborhood today, located Da Bonte Koe, and Hot Legs I, but didnt enter, looked closed. (what time they open?)

During the day doesnt look like a pussy goldmine, although the filipinas are cute, flirtatious and friendly at the stores I went to. got my hair trimmed for 50pesos (one dollar), thats almost free! The ladyboy (not my preference) who cut my hair did a good job, plus a little neck and back massage, tipped him 30 pesos.
Hot Legs I is just a long block from here, and Im off to check it out...
Thanks GoodEnough...

PS Too bad there isnt a restaurant/bar open to the street ala Copacabana, or the News Cafe bar in San Jose, Costa Rica... where you can hang out drink a cold one and check out the talent that strolls by....
OD

Strolled down to Hot Legs I, checked out the talent and had a cold San Miguel Pilsen if it werent for the hot talent I wouldnt stay long. It was pretty irritating with the tape player dra..gg..ing while it was playing some cheesy stock porn soundtrack with a with a moaning woman on it...

The light show consisted of the mamasan twirling a flashlight at the dancers. I found out why it is so dark in there, I looked behind the bar just in time to see 2 BIG FUCKING RATS milling about from underneath the beer cooler.
Boy am I glad I wore shoes instead on sandals, I would be paranoid one of those rodents would take a bite out of my pinky-toe. Welcome to the Philippines!

Although sandals/flip-flops are more comfy to wear, there are too many potholes and bits of rebar steel sticking out of the sidewalks. I suggest wearing sturdy walking shoes no matter how hot it is. Why risk rolling your ankle or splitting a toe open on a filthy rusty piece of metal and ruin your vacation? ...and dont forget the BIG FUCKING RATS!

A girl with her bikini too small and her butt-crack smiling at me out of the top caught my eye, but it was 11pm, wanted to check one more place out before they close at 2am.

Went to the Somplace Else bar, (beside "Hennys", De Bonte Koe) quiet in there, a tall filipina made good, convo with me while I had a rum and coke, she wasnt flirtatious, just some intelligent, inquisitive small talk. I decided to head back to Hot Legs I, and barfine that girl.

The damage was too much, 500 peso BF, 2,500 for her, I was getting too tired to barter She saw me empty every last peso out of my wallet, 2,250 I think, that was good enough for her, I know she was high-balling me, but at this point I was too tired and horny to care.

Back to the Marco Polo, the doormen patted me down, I thought maybe they might make her register at the desk, but we went right up to my room.

She showered, and we went at it... she said she was too shy to suck me, but after warming her up, she did, and wow it felt good. I thought I wouldnt last long having such a hot looking girl after a long dry spell.. but we did about 5 positions, 45min or so of solid fucking. After I came, she was nice enough to take the condom off, dispose of it, and cuddle for a bit. She said she had to leave, it was ok with me, got her number and email.
OD

you guys keep this thread full of informative tidbits and flaming to a minimum. Part of that may be because Davao attracts a more sophisticated type of monger than Manila, Angeles, Cebu etc.

Been 11 years since was last there, I think. Always stayed at the Apo View and had no complaints. Anyway, 3+ years after my divorce from the Filipina with whom I broke the cardinal rule (i.e. moved her into my place in the great wasteland), I have developed enough emotional and chronological distance to again mingle with babae Filipina. Thinking of joining Filipinahearts to do some groundwork for my September return to Mindanao ( I used to frequent Surigao as it was the only way station to get to great surf spots in the Siargao Islands.)

Would enjoy buying a few cold ones for the esteemed membership of Team Davao, and would be mnost honored if granted an audience. Marami Salamat Po

Not much to report today guys, spent most of the day planning the remainder of my trip. Met with a girl met on introduction service, she was pretty hot looking, her mother is Mexican, and sort of looks like Shakira. alot more curves than the typical filipina. (nice rack) she had two friends with her, we went to har part of town, "Matina" I think... nice safe neighborhood, I think thats where most epats live. she is pretty straight-laced, I dont think I want to do the groundwork needed to get into that. Too tired to go out...
OD

Sophisticated? Well, I've been there twice. How do you explain that?

I don't know much about Filipina heart, but Cherry blossom has a lot of Mindanao girls, including Surigao. See pic...

I'd love to hear more about Surigao. Have you been to the island? Siragao is the name, I think.

X

[QUOTE=Surfer]you guys keep this thread full of informative tidbits and flaming to a minimum. Part of that may be because Davao attracts a more sophisticated type of monger than Manila, Angeles, Cebu etc.

Been 11 years since was last there, I think. Always stayed at the Apo View and had no complaints. Anyway, 3+ years after my divorce from the Filipina with whom I broke the cardinal rule (i.e. moved her into my place in the great wasteland), I have developed enough emotional and chronological distance to again mingle with babae Filipina. Thinking of joining Filipinahearts to do some groundwork for my September return to Mindanao ( I used to frequent Surigao as it was the only way station to get to great surf spots in the Siargao Islands.)

Would enjoy buying a few cold ones for the esteemed membership of Team Davao, and would be mnost honored if granted an audience. Marami Salamat Po[/QUOTE]

Surfer, thanks for the kind words. It's nice to know that the information has been useful. You don't indicate when you plan on being in Davao, so I don't know if the Dragon Slayer will be here or not. He's really the inventor of the Team Davao concept. I'm usually there however, so send me a PM whenever you firm up your travel plans.

:D

GE

Are you back??Hopefully Things turned out ok in the "fine" city.Catch you soon.

Pals,

My brand fucking new laptop stopped working last Thursday. THen I became sick and spent the last week doing nothing but working and sleeping. Feeling better now and my laptop back but I had to threaten legal action(these fucking geeks insisted on a "by the book review of my computer". They did not care that i was the one paying the fucking wimps) to retrieve it this afternoon.

I have NEVER taken a girl from any of the Davao Clubs. ALL are a fucking wripoff and there are just way too many gorgeous ladies to be had on the streets of Davao. P3000, as I mentioned two years ago, is the normal for 2-3 hours for a Foreigner (locals pay P500-1000). I do much, much better on the streets or in the stores and at Ground Zero. Trust me, the place is a gold mine for young pussy.

Do NOT walk the streets around Maro Polo and where the d/t Clubs are at night. I did this in Aug '04 with Ge and a girl he had from Manila. But this is me at 6'4" AND 240# and professional training from my much younger days. At night around there it is not for strolling. Take taxis to and from the CLubs. THe cost will be P26 -P35 depending on your Hotel.

Hands down the Casa Leticia Hotel is the best as far as I am concerned. I have stayed at five Davao Hotels, including Maro Polo and Apo View. The service is excellent at Casa Leticia and the new manager is a great, young man. The Presidential Suite is magnificent. Toto's Club just above it is great and they include a full breakfast for two. Don't want to pay for the Prs Suite, try the Executive Suites on the fifith floor. All have terraces.

I will be back here later. Have to work for some time now.

Dragon Slayer

Guys, especially GE, Ds and CL

I am after some general pointers. I have RTFF and have a hotel etc in mind, probably Casa Leticia, but as well as wanting some evening and night time fun, my trip will be for pure R+R purposes, and would like to learn to scuba dive, are there any dive schools locally, did google but nothing obvious came up, and if so any idea as to cost, i have never dived before so it would all be new.

Are any discounts available from Casa Leticia for the web published rates.

Thanking you guys in advance, and if i can return the favour for Taipei then just let me know.

Taipei Traveller,

You have not ben going back to older Posts here. Henny, owner of De Bonte Koe Restaurant on Rizal Street in d/t Davao runs a diving school. He is a certified PADI instructor and he goes along with his students on dive trips on the weekend. GE is in with a group that rents a boat on Saturday mornings to dive. I imagine Henny's fees are reasonable. When I dropped by his restaurant last year to eat, a young filipina who was in his diving class had her manual with her. She was sitting at the bar studying her diving lessons when we stopped in for dinner. Henny introduced her to us as one of his current students.

Drop by Henny's restuarants at lunchtime, 11:30AM to 2:30PM when it is not crowded and he can talk to you. Both restaurants, De Bonte Koe and the new one, are great. They are opposite each other. Prices for fine dining are one fourth what I pay here in my City.

Call Casa Leticia in advance and ask if you can get a discount as a new but soon to be frequent visitor. Say you were referred by me and are really excited about staying there. You should get a 20% discount for an Executive Suite or Deluxe Room. I have not stayed in a standard room in over 7 years. They were small but nice. Executive Rooms on fifth floor are all nice and the terraces make for nice evening views while sipping champagne with a lovely lady.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

I will reply to all PM's. No computer for a week and too sick to Post anyway has me behind.

I alwyas liked Venue Plaza at night. On weekends when the band plays in the courtyard a lot of ladies gather at tables here. Venue Plaza disco is good on ladies night and the Bar, Halos gets a young crowd and lots of women but not until about midnight. Have no idea how late it stays open.

In d/t Davao Liquids nightclub in Apo View Hotel is good on weekends after 10:00PM. Plenty of lovely, young pussy. I spotted a hot looking filipina sitting alone at a table (she was alone the entier time we were in there; I checked). This was around 8:00PM on a Friday when the place was mostly empty. I had Davao Pussy with me, allowing no oportunity to meet her.

Rizal Promenade on Rizal Street fills up once the band begins to play at 10:00PM. This place is good late at night and keeps going till 04:30AM, much too late for me these days.

I have made three trips to Surigao City. It is about a 8 hour bus ride (had pussy travel from there to fuck me last Feb '06) from Davao City. This is a nice city but not much in the way of amenities. Restaurants and primitive. But the women are lovely and quite plentiful. There is a Park in the City where coeds will walk at night looking to meet and fuck a man for a small amount of money. This is a very poor City and the girls do this to meet tuition and costs for school. I stayed at the Tavern Hotel by the ocean. Not good but the restaurant is nice. The new Hotel there is supposed to be nice.

Dragon Slayer

[QUOTE=Taipei Traveller]Guys, especially GE, Ds and CL

I am after some general pointers. I have RTFF and have a hotel etc in mind, probably Casa Leticia, but as well as wanting some evening and night time fun, my trip will be for pure R+R purposes, and would like to learn to scuba dive, are there any dive schools locally, did google but nothing obvious came up, and if so any idea as to cost, i have never dived before so it would all be new.

Are any discounts available from Casa Leticia for the web published rates.

Thanking you guys in advance, and if i can return the favour for Taipei then just let me know.[/QUOTE]
In case You decide NOT to stay at Casa Leticia drop me a PM,I can get you a deal at either Pearl Farm or Marco Polo.But you will be pleased to find prices are a fraction of Taipei prices.Have Fun

Pals,

For the newcomers here please DO take the time to read back all the way to June '04 ( we had a horrible "Davao War" here in late April/May '04 and Jackson had to step in to settle it). But then we got back to normal and the Posts gave tons of valuable insights and information.

The same questions are being asked here over and over again. This is okay but you could also find all this by just reading the Posts. We hang out at Henny's nightly when I am in town. You can find us there.

I wonder when Maurice O'Flanagan gets back. From the way the place was going in his abscence, there may not be much to come b ack to if he waits too long. This was a good place to go for a drink and good meal and friendly company in the early evening before a short walk to Ground Zero for some pussy hunting. Then, if nothing promising shows up you can take in the Show at Hot Legs II (P28 taxi ride) and get a handjob or blowjob in a quiet corner.

By then it is 10:45PM and time for Rizal Promenade and some outdoor, live music and more pussy hunting. You then can choose more of the d/t Clubs or move on to Venue Plaza. Or return to Ground Zero and try your luck ( I did many a night) with the sleazier, hornier crowd that is there from 10:30PM till 02:00AM. You can also try a return to Venue Plaza and the young crowd at Halos. I went by there one night (had pussy with me as usual) and it was going just great at 01:00AM.

This is NOT an expensive City and the traffic you find in Manila and Cebu does not exist here. Plenty of Bars, Clubs, fine Restaurants and good Hotels. Did I mention more solid board feet of awesome pussy than just about anywhere else???

Dragon Slayer

Guys:

I am writing thid on my hand held from a hoital in Singapore where I will remain for about a week. Please forgive any typos.

There are lots of dive instructors in Davao, most of whom are inexpensive and sometime unqualified. Henny is certified by PADI to instruct at all levels and is not only the best, but the only one that anyone should even consider. His price is about $260 all inclusive, from the time you begin until you get your license. Either DS or I can give you his email address.

As usual, all of DS' posts were on the money. I think I'll call him in a couple of hours and tell him.
D:

GE

Pals,

This is Pixie in Davao last May. 24, lovely and sweet. Thought you guys might like these photos. She really gets into fucking.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

This Board needs new photos to liven it up. This is Cham last May. She is only nthe third lady that I fucked on the couc in the livingroom of the Pres Suite. The other two are Elaine, the 22 y/o who dumped me in March (read Posts here; her nude photos to follow shortly) and Amy(her nudes to follow when I find where I put them).The rest I did only in the bed or bathtub.

This beautiful lady has an awesome "lovebox" as you can see.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

The first two are of my Pixie, age 24. The others are of Cham, age 30. I plan to see them both when I return. You guys asked for photos and the Slayer responds. Hope you like them. The one is Cham's tit. Took this while kissing her during a good fuck session in Casa Letica.

Pals,

I keep forgetting to mention a couple items. Champagne has always been a nice accompaniment when fucking a lovely lady (talking non-pros now). With Elaine, the 22 y/o in Davao, the Vieve Cliquot we drank that evening definitely helped me get my cock inside her lovely hole. With both Pixie and Cham (nudes below), it was not a factor. Pixie met me at my Hotel and we had a drink together outside and 20 minutes later we went to my Room. I did have the Hotel bring up an ice bucket and I stuck a nice Schlamsberg Brut Rose' Champagne (sparkling wine actually but excellent and, sadly, expensive). I had my cock in her a minute after the waiter closed the door. We drank the Champagne afterwards and fucked again and then again.

With Cham I took a taxi to get her and we went straight back and up to the Pres Suite. A few minutes later I had her naked and my dick inside her. Fucked her twice in the first 90 minutes before drinking Champagne with her. It still made a nice experience after fucking.

Tinder Box next to Crossroads now sells an excellent Sparkling Wine (Champagne must be from the "Champagne Region" of France in order to call it Champagne), Beringer Brut Rose. This sells for $ 20 US and is very good. This is compared to $ 50 for Taittinger Champagne there and $ 48 for Moet Chandon Brut Imperial at Tinder Box. You can buy three bottles of this fine Brut Rose "Champagne" for a little more than one bottle of the real thing.

I drank this with three separate women and they all loved it. My duaghter's mother has had Taittinger, Vieve Cliquot ($60/btl at Ralph's Wine Store in Cebu or Davao), Moet Chandon Brut Imperial, Schlamsberg Blanc de Noir and Schlasmberg Brut Rose. She thinks this is better than any of them. AND it is only a fraction of the cost.

Dragon Slayer

ds, ge, cl many thanks for the update of info, obviously did not go back far enough when doing the research, will try to do better next time, honest !!! lol

ds or ge, if one of you could pm me henny's email address i would be grateful. any idea how long it normally takes to get qualified, are we talking about a day or two, or is it closer to the week.

cl, thanks for the offer, i gathered from reading here that pearl farm is a bit out of the way, is that right ? davao certainly has to be cheaper than taipei for rooms, although reasonably priced rooms can be had. i am really looking for something that is comfortable, internet access, close to all amenities including night life and henny's dive club at a reasonable to cheap price.

final item is just to wish ge a speedy recovery from his hospital bed in sg and that it does not curtail him from his natural activities for too long.

pals,

i got a call from ge sunday night (us pac time) while doing some work on the internet. i wish him a safe and a fast recovery in singapore.

get well ge. see you very soon.

i was 16 when i got certified to scuba dive. it was a long, very boring 16 weeks in a ymca swimming pool with a ymca and naui certified instructor. henny uses an in the ocean and much faster path to certification. i understand that he has you scuba diving within a week.

pearl farm is not far from davao. but few, if any, available women there. marco polo has great rooms at the deluxe level for around $48 us a night. this hotel has the best room service and it is now 24 hours whic i love. i was here with my lovely pixie last trip before transferring to casa leticia. internet hookup in the room was rediculous. they wanted $ 6.50 us per hour for me to use my own laptop in my room.

i think the executive rooms at casa leticia run about $ 40/night with the discount i get. not sure as i do not quibble much over small amounts when travelling. rooms a re nice and i like the terrace that comes with all executive suite rooms on the fifth floor.

both of these hotels are close to the nightlife. so is apo view. the bar on the first floor of marco polo is expensive but very nice. they offer a very nice buffet for lunch and dinner on this floor also. as i mentioned, casa leticia will include a free, full breakfast for two (ask for this when registering) in its restaurant on the first floor. do stop by toto's club on the roof. it is open from5:00pm till 02:00am. this is a beautiful, romantic place. resaonable prices for food and drinks and lovely tatami mats to snuggle together with a lady. i took pixie here and lovely elaine back in feb '06. the view from the windows is great at night.

internet access is good at casa leticia and they have high speed internet on the first floor for p90/hour. beats the hell out of sitting in the cafes in the little booths.

dragon slayer

Pals,

I can use some help. My Nephew has a vacation that is etched in stone. He wants to come here in August when he has his time. Days are fixed. I checked airfares and cheapest I found from NYC or Newark to Manila was $ 1450 on Expedia with Cathay Pacific. Looking for routes through Hong Kong was useless. Every person who ever wants to travel to HK must do it then. Never saw rates so high.

Anyone know a good consolidator or any other ideas? Last hope is priceline.com but I doubt they will do much. The kid is excited about seeing my little girls, my new Son, meeting the guys here in Davao and getting some Davao Pussy. But he has to get here first.

Who plans to come here in August? Please note that there is a very big fiesta in Davao in mid to late August. Not sure of the dates but ALL hotels are fully booked. Please make your plans NOW if you intend to go here at that time. This thing lasts for a week and d/t Davao gets very crowded. They even shut down traffic around Ground Zero and make it a "pedestrian only" (and pros of course) area then.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer,

Expedia is owned by the Star Alliance Group and therefore heavily weights all searches toward Star Alliance flights. You may be better to either find an independant travel agent or if you want to book yourself, take a look at Eva Air ([url]www.evaair.com[/url]) They have a special from los Angeles to Manila right now. It's somewhere in the neighborhood of $700.00 Add a flight from New York to L.A. and a flight from manila to Davao and I am sure it can't be up to the Cathay flight.

I hope that helps

Manila Special
By EVA Airlines
Aug1-15 LA from $885, San Francisco $995, Seattle $990,
Aug16-Sep4 from LA $745, San Francisco $775, Seattle $810

Call them for add on from JFK/EWR.

I know a few consolidators here in SF I can check the fares with if Angel does not give a cheap fare quote from NYC. Using miles is another option and somebody might barter with you. Believe it or not, Northwest & CO are better as Oneworld wants 90,000 which gets you BIZ CLASS on United (but they haven't served MNL in years). ! TG has flight JFK-BKK-MNL for 70,000 United Miles, but August is hard. Check Thai consolidators in NYC.

Surfer,

Thanks I will try. The kid is like my much younger brother. My mother asked me to look after him. He is a cop in NYC and no way he can change his days. He could try leaving a day later. I checked NWA and did the expedia.com deal also. Best was the $1400 for leaving on Aug 15 his first day off.

I am using my miles to fly WBC then. The Ceremony for my newborn son is costing quite a bit and I am making a big thing of this. He has a budget for the Air of around $1000. I will have to cover the difference. Hope to keep it around this amount.

Look forward to seing some of you then. I will be postponing the date to give me more time to plan and I will notify GE, CebuLocal, Spamhogs, Diver69, Tout01 and other pals in a few more days.

Thanks for any help you guys here can provide.

Dragon Slayer

Try [url]www.bt-store.com[/url].

A Filipino travel agent in Long Beach, CA was recommended to me but I have not used them. The company is RC Travel and the contact is Tet. E-mail her at [email]Tet_rctravel@hotmail.com[/email].

Check out [url]www.cheapseats.com[/url] also. I found a good flight leaving aug 15th returning sept 2nd for usd 1347 including taxes and services fees. The foreign leg of the flight was using Philippine Airlines which is non stop MNL/SFO.

Hello DS,

Good to see you are surrounding yourself with nice young women and great sparklers! If you strike out on the other suggestions, try [url]www.farecompare.com[/url]. It is a great website to find the absolute lowest airfare for any particular destination. Also congrats on the birth of Slayer Jr!

Excelsior!

[quote=taipei traveller]ds, ge, cl many thanks for the update of info, obviously did not go back far enough when doing the research, will try to do better next time, honest !!! lol

ds or ge, if one of you could pm me henny's email address i would be grateful. any idea how long it normally takes to get qualified, are we talking about a day or two, or is it closer to the week.

cl, thanks for the offer, i gathered from reading here that pearl farm is a bit out of the way, is that right ? davao certainly has to be cheaper than taipei for rooms, although reasonably priced rooms can be had. i am really looking for something that is comfortable, internet access, close to all amenities including night life and henny's dive club at a reasonable to cheap price.

final item is just to wish ge a speedy recovery from his hospital bed in sg and that it does not curtail him from his natural activities for too long.[/quote]
henny's course is four day; 2 in yhe pool, one diving in the ocean off a beach, and the final day doing two dives in open water off a boat. there's a simple written test at the end and then you get your license. wii pm henny's email address tomorrow.
:d
ge

[QUOTE=Dragon Slayer]Surfer,

Thanks for any help you guys here can provide.

Dragon Slayer[/QUOTE]

DS try this one.

[url]http://www.opodo.co.uk/Jsp/opodo/HomeServlet?Int_Id=BP_5.0%7ENAV_HOM&locale=en_GB[/url]

ES

Try this consolidator. I always use this and compare . I called most of travel agents in the Filipino Newspaper including RC Travel in Long Beach and also BT Store Travel but this seems to be the always the cheapest by $10 or $20 or more. I guess the owner is a Filipino too.

[url]http://www.jjbargainstravel.com/traveldeals.htm[/url]

I'm thinking of coming to visit Davao for a few days in early July with a PI girl so I'm not looking for pickup places. However, I do like going out dancing, especially to hip hop music. Are there any decent clubs in Davao for this? Since I'm only going to be there during the week, I'm a bit worried that they might be a bit dead.

Thanks for the advice!

Pals,

Thanks for all your help. I am now seaching through the various sites you guys provided me. See what happens. Let you know. The kid is a good guy and much different from me. You guys will enjoy hanging with him.

Clubbing in Davao:

You did not read back. Tons of Posts here on this. Venue Disco at Venue Plaza is packed on ladies night. Liquids at Apo View gets a good crowd on Thurs, Fri & Sat nights after 10:00PM. Live music after 10:00PM at Rizal Promenade. Jazz nightly at Blues Bar outside Apo View. Chicos on Rizal St has live music nightly.

Dragon Slayer

[QUOTE=Member #1344]I'm thinking of coming to visit Davao for a few days in early July with a PI girl so I'm not looking for pickup places. However, I do like going out dancing, especially to hip hop music. Are there any decent clubs in Davao for this? Since I'm only going to be there during the week, I'm a bit worried that they might be a bit dead.

Thanks for the advice![/QUOTE]


I hope you can at least be there later in the week because that's your best chance of being in a place and NOT be surrounded by empty chairs and tables. Sunday nights are a complete writeoff and hardly anywhere is open. Mondays and Tuesdays they may be open you may have the place to yourself. Starting Wednesday you can catch ladies nights and that's when places start to fill up. Wednesdays and Thursdays can be the happy medium between nobody there and the crowded can't move an inch situation you get on weekends.

As for finding hip hop music, your best bet may be the Auto Club, near Victoria Plaza mall. That seemed to have the youngest crowd and the most thick chains. The kind of music you get often depends on the band that's playing on a particular night. At Venue one night you may get a band playing more hip hop. The next night it could be somebody playing John Denver tunes all the time.

Also, if you happen to be in Cebu there's a club called Pump, at the Cebu Convention Center, that you might like. It was closed for a spell a few months ago because of a gang fight, but I think it's ok now.

flew that PR 102/103 MANY times in the 90s, and unannounced "technical" stops in HNL are all too common going over (never coming back as the jet stream reduced flight time by several hours).

DS: My good mongering buddy is a Captain in NYPD; maybe I can ask him to help your nephew alter vacation dates. I'd ask him if you want.

August 16 departure is $745 on EVA ; use your miles to get him from JFK to LAX. EVA is supposedly quite good (never flown them). Another idea: get him a cheap flight to NRT (that is what I am doing) then use miles or Japan times add to get cheap deal to MNL. Also try Asiana through ICN (Seoul). Sometime you can save a lot by buying one ticket across the water then another within SE Asia. Tiger Air has VERY cheap flights from SIN, and AirAsia from KL, to the PI.

[QUOTE=Mahku]I hope you can at least be there later in the week because that's your best chance of being in a place and NOT be surrounded by empty chairs and tables. Sunday nights are a complete writeoff and hardly anywhere is open. Mondays and Tuesdays they may be open you may have the place to yourself. Starting Wednesday you can catch ladies nights and that's when places start to fill up. Wednesdays and Thursdays can be the happy medium between nobody there and the crowded can't move an inch situation you get on weekends.

As for finding hip hop music, your best bet may be the Auto Club, near Victoria Plaza mall. That seemed to have the youngest crowd and the most thick chains. The kind of music you get often depends on the band that's playing on a particular night. At Venue one night you may get a band playing more hip hop. The next night it could be somebody playing John Denver tunes all the time.

Also, if you happen to be in Cebu there's a club called Pump, at the Cebu Convention Center, that you might like. It was closed for a spell a few months ago because of a gang fight, but I think it's ok now.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. I'm leaving PI on Thursday, so I'll probbaly be in Manila on Wednesday night. It sounds like Davao might be a poor choice since the clubbing is dead on Sun-Wed.

I was in Cebu in March for week or two and did stop by Pump. It was a fun time but I can see how a fight could break out there. Quite a few wanna be gansters there with attitudes.

Pals,

Thanks again for help with my nephew's flights. He is mainly interested in meeting Elaine's younger sister here (see photos Feb '06). I have a call into him to see what he will do.

With GE out of town it has slowed down here. Both girls I had on my last Trip to Davao have contacted me over the internet yesterday. Both want to see me again (photos here). I had several other ladies here in Davao but I was unable to meet up with them last Trip. I will do that this coming Trip.

I put a photo of one here a year ago as a "Davao hope I fuck". Still hoping. While at a net cafe here one morning she was online at 8:00AM. She turned on her webcam. At 8:00AM on a Thursday morning she was wearing a bright red dress. Lowcut so you could see her huge, lovely tits hangig out. This was attire you would expect a girl to wear to a banquet or wedding reception. She was obviously in an office.

Told me she worked as an Event Coordinator and also in a medical office. In that outfit with her tits hanging out in a medical office??? The male patients would all have huge erections and not need the viagra prescriptions. She is 22 and a 9.5 easily. Asked me if I would take her to lunch. I said "yes". I would fucking take her to an abu sayyaf rally if she asked me.

She called later and said she could not get to my hotel till $:00PM. I was meeting Cham (her nudes here) then so I could not reschedule her. I have since talked to her and I plan to see her this Trip.

I have a 20 y/o named Eden that I met on the internet here. She showed me her tits as we chatted (she was in a "make shift" private room with a cheap curtain for privacy). I offered her no $$ for this but got her phone number. Called her 1 1/2 hrs later but she could not remember who I was. Shows her tits quite a bit I would imagine. She also wanted to meet me last Trip. With Pixie and Cham I could not schedule it. I will try this next time.

Dragon Slayer

a harvest festival with lots of exotic fruits and flowers and the like. A bigger attraction might be the marching bands full of masarap babae (delicious babes)-see picture below. Bummer I will miss it as it looks like fun with everybody dancing in the street like a Philippine version of Brasil's Carnival.

DS: will you stay in town until early September? My friend the Captain wants to go too and it would be cool to hook up. While my cyberstalker ("the Senator Dashing Don") thinks there is something illegal or nefarious about it, and wants an internal affairs investigation because I said he might be able to ask him to help your nephew alter his exact vacation dates by a day or two, there is nothing illegal or wrong about that. But because he has yet to get beyond Manila/Angeles in the PI, or Cartagena/Medellin in Colombia, he is jealous of those with the cojones (balls) to venture further afield (though he did threaten to go Cebu on his next trip-Ayalas beware! ).

Anyway, lots of guys in LE like to have fun with the ladies too and I've runinto a fair number in Colombia. While "prostiution" per se may be illegal in the PI, so you cannot legally pay for sex, there aint no law against giving gifts or taxi money to girlfriends out of appreciation for time spent.





[url]http://www.clickdavao.com/festivals.html#kadayawan[/url]

Pals,

Hope all had a good Father's Day. Boring for me except had a good dinner with a young Client of mine, a pro ball player. We had fun joking around over dinner about women in my City (he is here onl for medical treatment now and goes back in the morning).

Surfer,

I will probably not be in Phils in September as I will have to return to work. I do NOT know Dashing Don nor do I give a fuck what he thinks. The kid would NOT accept any favors so I did not even pass on your suggestion. He did get an extension on the outer end from his Supervisor in the Precinct. Nothing could be done about his departure date.

I had a fucking loser as a stalker here a year ago. I hope I DO meet him again in the Phils. These guys have lousy jobs, no woman and a crummy life. Jealous of the rest of us.

I did not enjoy the Fiesta last time in Davao in August. I am going to try to avoid Davao during that time. Stay elsewhere then if possible. It is much too crowded and really not much fun.

Prostitution IS legal in the Philippines. They get a CSW card (contract sex worker) and are subject to Monday morning health department checkups that are marked on their cards. I have no problem with pros but seldom patronize them as there are so many nice, lovely regular women around. None of the ladies in any of my photos here are pros. I nailed two (2) pros and 30+ regular women in 2005. No pros and 12 women in 2006 so far. Most I will see again.

Dragon Slayer

I guess it's no surprise that I agree with the Slayer. The festival just ain't that much fun for foreigners. The streets are clogged at all hours and parking becomes almost impossible. True, there are outdoor concerts on Rizal St. and the streets are jammed with people, and there are parades all over town, so there may be a slightly higher probability of seeing more women during the festival, but there are so many during normal times that it's hardly worth the effort. Also, hotels are packed during the time of the festival.

I just got out of the hospital today, but still have to hang around Singapore for another 5-6 days, so I will not be back in Davao until next week end.

:D

GE

If you are up to it, try the Geylang houses for some sweet Chinese (or occasionally Viet) action at a reasonable price FOR SINGAPORE. If you compare to Davao prices. . . .

Sentosha Island is worth a day trip too, and the Night Safari at the SIN Zoo is the only exhibition in the World (to my knowledge) of nocturnal animals in their habitat). Finally, tasting a Singapore Sling at Raffles is a MUST! As a frequent visitor to Malaysia, you likely have already done all this but if not you should.

My timing is off for the festival anyway, but as long as I don't need to drive far or park, the crowds would not deter me. You should see the crowds in Rio during Carnaval (or in Kowloon on an average day LOL!)! I am guessing they make the streets of Davao seem downright empty in comparision.

DS: Bummer I will miss you this trip but hope to cross paths one of these days. Any suggestions where I might catch the NFL games (I will be there when the season opens) in Davao? Is there a sports bar with satellite?

[QUOTE=Surfer]If you are up to it, try the Geylang houses for some sweet Chinese (or occasionally Viet) action at a reasonable price FOR SINGAPORE. If you compare to Davao prices. . . .

Sentosha Island is worth a day trip too, and the Night Safari at the SIN Zoo is the only exhibition in the World (to my knowledge) of nocturnal animals in their habitat). Finally, tasting a Singapore Sling at Raffles is a MUST! As a frequent visitor to Malaysia, you likely have already done all this but if not you should.

My timing is off for the festival anyway, but as long as I don't need to drive far or park, the crowds would not deter me. You should see the crowds in Rio during Carnaval (or in Kowloon on an average day LOL!)! I am guessing they make the streets of Davao seem downright empty in comparision.

DS: Bummer I will miss you this trip but hope to cross paths one of these days. Any suggestions where I might catch the NFL games (I will be there when the season opens) in Davao? Is there a sports bar with satellite?[/QUOTE]

Thanks Surfer, for the tips. I'll act on them during my next trip in about six weeks, as my mobility, though better, is still reasonably limited and I don't want to push my luck. Actually, I've never visited Raffles in Singapore, and I'll try to have a drink there next time.

Of course, the crowds during the Kidayawan festival do not compare to a typical day in Kowloon. Few things do, but for Davao, the festival attracts quite a crowd, though there's nothing of particular interest for a foreigner.

Don't worry about catching the NFL. Star sports broadcasts and re-broadcasts quite a few of the games. What I cannot quite believe is that I cannot get any World Cup matches live on the enormous TV in my fancy hotel room here in Singapore. I guess football is not considered a big deal here by most of the guests. There's a nice sports bar in the Marco Polo with a huge screen, though you can catch the games on any of the TVs in the rooms as well.

Thanks for the good wishes. The quality of medical care here in Singapore is outstanding.

:D

GE

World Cup is on ESPN and any decent hotel will have ESPN so I cannot believe you cannot get the games. Did you ask the Concierge?

Pals,

I have been working and taking breaks to chat on the internet. Meeting tons of gorgeous women, many in Davao. Ages are 20-31. Many have huge tits. I refuse to chat if they do not get a webcam. I am not sure how I will work this when I return. Needless to say they also have requests for financial assistance. Anything from P1000 so they can chat with me every day to $ 150 US to be ready (?) for me when I arrive back here. I have yet to wire a single peso. Been there and fell for that one a couple years ago. I simply say, we can discuss this when I arrive.

I do make a point of being very polite to each one and telling them how beautiful they look, which is being truthful. The fat ones and ugly ones I politely inform that I have an appointment and must logoff. A couple were even willing to remove their tops and show me theri lovely tits. I consider the as "A List Women". I will definitely meet them. This is how I met my Annie from Davao in 2003.

Some guys never do good with women. Last thing you want to do is insult or offen a woman, especially when you first make contact. My Pixie told me that some jerk was chatting with her online during her lunch break at her Office. He saw a photo of her in a bathing suit in her avatar. He told her to lose weight as she was too fat. She was so upset that she contacted me about it. She went on to say that the fucking loser told her to pass on the Champagne and chocolates that I bring.

This guy was an american, I am ashamed to note. I told her to tell the dickless geek to "go fuck himself". Her reply was, " I did already". The first photo here is of Pixie, taken in the Marco Polo Hotel in Davao. You guys tell me if she needs a diet and weightloss program. She has yet to ask me for a dollar since I met her.

Other photos are of another lady at Davao Airport when we departed together last May. You can see Welcome to Davao City in the turf. Final photo taken in Pres Suite at Casa Leticia in May.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

GE tells me I have "the most messed up biorythms of anyone he ever met". Well those biorythms can go fuck themselves. It is 02:00AM and I am wide awake. Took a npa at lunchtime which most likely did it to me.

No one seems to put any decent photos here, save your Slayer. This site needs more photos. So I am inserting some I resized as my Father's Day Post of some of the most beautiful, sensuous women I ever fucked. I got a call from a Client, a Pro Bllplayer, who wanted to meet me for dinner and watch the Game. So I never got around to making the Post.

Anyway, this is a lady who was a nightclub singer in Fugishi, Japan that I used to fuck quite frequently. No, this is Japan and NOT Davao. If someone wants me to remove these photos, we can put it to a vote. Thought you guys might enjoy them just the same.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

This Lady I met this evening on the internet. A webcam photo of her. She has same first name as former movie actress, Miss Monroe. 23, she lives outside Davao City. The second one is a lady I met last week while chatting. She is 22. Last two are of Eden in Davao that I met a few months ago but could not squeeze in during my May Trip. I get phone numbers on all ladies I meet and e-mail addresses for follow up when I arrive.

Dragon Slayer

CL,

Trying to send you a PM but your mailbox is full. Can you either clear some out, or PM me with a normal email address as a couple of items i would like to check with you for my trip here.

Thanks TT

The first lady pictured is simply gorgeous, and I urge you to bring her by the house for some wine, champagne and munchies as soon as you get back to Davao.

:D

GE

Pals,

The photo of Miss Monroe is a webcam shot. I have her cell #, e-mail and Yahoo ID but sadly I have NOT fucked her. THe other two I have the same on and Eden, I have been calling and texting the last two trips. Just could not meet her as I had my little girls and their mother the first Trip, plus Elaine; and Pixie and then Cham the second Trip to Davao.

I believe th Festival in Davao is the Third Week In August. I will be in Cebu then and I am scheduling my Son's Baptism and the three day reception/celebration then. Davao is no fun at all during the Fiesta.

Did anyone see the photos I enclosed here? I got very upset when some fucking loser insulted my Pixie on the internet. She is sensitive enough as it is. Funny thing is, these Cyber Losers are real jerks. I was in Davao at a net cafe with my daughter's mother in November. I was sending e-mails to Clients in my Firm back home. She was amusing herself chatting.

Some Loser was on the net with her. Asked her how her body looked. She showed me and I told her to tell him honestly. So, she replied, big breasts and a small body. The cyber geek got all bent out of shape, replying, "I DO NOT LIKE big breasts". I mean where the fuck did this guy come from???

Think he would say "great". "I love that". No, he has to upset her and get her on the defensive. I doubt if any of these guys ever meet any women, let alone a gorgeous one like Pixie or my daughters' mother. You have to be a gentleman and compliment the ladies. Pussy comes on a gold platter if it is any good at all.

Dragon SLayer

I'm a bit confused about Slayer's last post. Did this lady really feel insulted just because a guy said he didn't like big breasts. C'mon, like 98% of guys like big breasts, why break a sweat?

Would you feel insulted if a woman said, "sorry, your penis is too big"?

X

I lack the chatting thing in my DNA but I know other guys do well (and Filipinas love it almost as much as text messaging). I get these damn knocks of women trying to chat when I enter the chat room looking for hotties to email but then quickly log out.

Nice pics DS (although some are thumbnail size and impossible to view). Thanksd for brightening up the board. 99% of my PI pics are from the pre digital age and scanning takes too much time and produces image quality that I find too disappointing to bother. After the upcoming trip shopuld have plenty of hi res (8 megapixel) images to post. On another note, the Japanese singer is WAY sweet .

Re popularity of big tits, the guy who said 99% of guys like them is wrong IMHO. I would say in the US probably 2 out of 3 guys like big boobs, but in other cultures (Brasil immediately comes to mind), big boobs are considered UNATTRACTIVE whereas big butts (bunda) are VERY in demand).

Pals,

Some ladies are sensitive. My daughter's mother, Pixie and my Beijing Doll are all very sensitive, very insecure and easily become upset. All three are wonderful women and very beautiful, with sensuous bodies. Oh forgot, incredibly good at fucking also. So I avoid upsetting them. I try to avoid offending anyone.

Last July Xin Xin, a girl in Xiamen, China that I was fucking told me after we departed that my dick was too big and I wanted to fuck too much. Her reasons for not wanting to see me anymore. She was only average in a country with millions of beautiful women anyway. Not sure if I was offended but I did not take it as a compliment either. My lovely Jing in China whom I was just with for a week in May loves the huge "beast". Women are all different. What makes life so great.

Happy to hear you liked the girl in Japan. Besides my Beijing Doll, she was the best fuck I ever had. Married now but I still hear from her. Yes, she asks to meet me but so far I have not bothered to travel to her City in Japan. She has offered to go elsewhere but it did not happen, yet.

I will call Eden and ask her for more photos of her that are a larger size and insert them. She is in Davao and a sweet lady. Get a good scanner. My scanner was used for the photos of the Japanese girl and they are from a 35 mm camera. One negative so far with my new digital is getting my photos developed from it. I have them loaded into my computer but it is time consuming to print them all out. Hate to ask a local place to print out my "fuck shots" and "blowjob shots". I do NOT post these as I cannot see anyone wanting to see my dick, even in Jing, Pixie, Beijing Doll's or the Japanese girl's mouth. Much better to view the ladies.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

Got online this morning and had a lady IM me. Then she offered her cam. First thing I see is her cleavage out of her nightgown. I though it was Cham here (see photos) that I was with in Davao. SHe hid her face and proceeded to lower the nightgown. What a large, lovely rack! Chamdoes this to me often to entice me to return quickly. then the girl lowers it all the way and moves her panties down just enough to show her pubic hair.

Cham,as you all know, has no pubic hair. Finally she shows her face. It was a gorgeous 25 y/o I met last Monday morning online (late night in Phils). I had her phone number and we spoke briefly a few times when I was at home in the evening here. She gave me a great show of he large, d cup, natural tits. Asked to see my cock. What could I do? I unleashed the man and she said, "I want it between my tits".

This girl has 4 year college degree and now is studying nursing. She asked if my "cockursaurus rex" was all hers. Again, I might look stupid but the Slayer is far from dumb. I had to learn something in 7 years undergrad and post grad study. My Father never fails to inform me what a waste my education was. He should be viewing my cam. This LIVE CAM SHOW cost me absolutely nothing. Time chatting with her and a few phone calls. I have to get back here and fucking fast.

She departed for sleep saying she would chat with me again. I then almost immediately get an IM from another girl. This one in CDO, a few hours by bus from Davao. This is C (name withheld for me). She has only a towel on just covering her body. SHe says hello and sks me how I am. I say GREAT. I know I had met her but where?

I tactfully work in asking her her name and city and age, claiming my memory is bad now from too much work. She is 23 and works in an internet cafe 4-5 days a week. She has the night shift and sleeps there as her home is an hour ride away. She removes the towel and asks me if I like her body. Huge, lovely tits and nice pussy. She asks me if I want to look at her now? Says, "I do this for you because I know you (we chatted 3-4 times last 7 days) and I know you are a good man (right again girl wonder). But this is my first time to do this" (remember my swamp land in Louisiana? I have choice desert property outside Desert Valley for sale also. Believe this nonsense and I KNOW we can do business).

Proceeds to lift her legs on each arm of her chair and masturbate for me. Types in, "almost there",screams outloud (dialed my # so we could use mic) and keeps going for 20 minutes. Then she re-attaches the towel and we talk for another 20 minutes. She gives me both her cellphone numbers and asks me to call later.

I have to logoff after this. Logon late with the intention of working (ya right). Find the beautiful lady in the red dress with the "rack to die for" here in Davao online. At home now with no webcam but we chat for two hours. Wants me to take her to Pearl Farm (cebulocal I need help getting a good rate). Very insistent on knowing my exact date arriving in Davao which I have not decided yet. Sends me some recent photos of her and I am including one here.

This day was awesome as it was and then I get an IM from Jian Min, another girl in southern China that I know. THis girl is older than my Jing but much bigger tits and a much hotter body (you saw Jing here). Jina Min wants to know when she can expect me in So China. Goes on over the hour of chatting to tell me how she wants to fuck me. No cam so I listen while chatting with the honey in the red dress in Davao.

Did not get webcam shots as I was frozen to the screen watching each lady. Next time. Here are photos of them from my Slayer Archives. No I a NOT sharing any of these ladies. I want to give them some personal attention. One photo is of C and the other is of the lady in Davao with the "rack". Both have great racks actually.

Dragon Slayer

[QUOTE=Surfer]

Nice pics DS (although some are thumbnail size and impossible to view). Thanksd for brightening up the board. 99% of my PI pics are from the pre digital age and scanning takes too much time and produces image quality that I find too disappointing to bother. After the upcoming trip shopuld have plenty of hi res (8 megapixel) images to post. On another note, the Japanese singer is WAY sweet .

QUOTE]

Surfer I must agree 100%. DS has really livened up this thread. I lived in PI for seven years but now in China so I come here to remember how it was. I like to read about DS's exploits as it is much the same as what I did in Manila.

I find Yahoo a good place to chat up girls here in Shangahi and I also still chat with Filipinas. A couple of pics of a big busted girl from Lapulapu attached. These were taken from my computer secreen with her permission. Semi pro looking to "tuition money".

Thanks DS..................Very good thread.

ES

DS:

Even by the usual high standards of your performance, I think you've reached a new plateau here. I can set aside two or three rooms in the house for you if you want to accommodate all of these lovelies. I think you've answered the question of why (some) guys come to Davao and why the city has so little need of the usual girlie bars, clubs and other pick-up sites.

Come back soon, the city and your friends miss you.

GE

I'm sure DS already knows this, but GE has keys to all the rooms. He also has those little tiny cameras....

Oh, sorry. Was that supposed to be secret?

x

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]DS:

Even by the usual high standards of your performance, I think you've reached a new plateau here. I can set aside two or three rooms in the house for you if you want to accommodate all of these lovelies. I think you've answered the question of why (some) guys come to Davao and why the city has so little need of the usual girlie bars, clubs and other pick-up sites.

Come back soon, the city and your friends miss you.

GE[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man]I'm sure DS already knows this, but GE has keys to all the rooms. He also has those little tiny cameras....

Oh, sorry. Was that supposed to be secret?

x[/QUOTE]
You forgot to mention the full-screen, surround sound playback equipment, and yes, it was supposed to be a secret.

Pals,

Posting before dawn after working the "graveyard shift" in my Firm. I awoke at 01:00AM, cold not sleep so went to work on the computer. Took breaks to chat with C (read about her below) in CDO, Dalia (new and lovely) in Cebu and my lovely D on Zamboanga Island.

I got photos to sho wo fmy student nurse who was the first to give me the cam show last Saturday monring on the net. These will give you a good idea of what I was watching live, on cam, except without any clothing.

Dragon Slayer

Lovely girls DS. I keep getting the "god fearing" virgins seeking a "religious man" to have kids etc etc etc. . Pictures are often revealing of how they dress; I married one of the sexy and sophisticated ones from Manila so thought I should now try "simple" girls from Mindanao. But I like the pics they send you better but I don't have the balls/heart to write back "forget the Sunday school dress shots; show me some sousous!""" LOL).

Also, anybody ever notice hoew many hotties there are from Ozamis City? I took a GF to Dakak years ago, and Dipolog did not strilke me as anything special, but this Ozamis is intriguing. Anybody been over there? Also Valencia?

Surfer
Valencia is Bukidnon has gotten good feedback from GE,It is mountain country being cool with an average elevation of 3000-4000 feet.the tribal people and scenery are supposed to be interesting.Cheers CL

Khun Paul,

Mai Pen Rai krap. Bai yahoo chat krap. Regional for Philippines, cow chai mai krap?

Sawadeekrap

Surfer,

I had a girl in Ozamis back in 1994. Huge tits and lovely, but so quiet, it was like I was talking to myself. Good (not great) fuck though. I will look for the photos and Post here at a later date.

Ozamis is an hour from Dipolog by bus. I had a girl in Dipolog in 1999; another hot body and lovely lady but a mediocre fuck. Plus, family was at my hotel door knocking every couple hours. Could not handle it. Oldest brother managed the local bank. This made him think he was some fucking big shot (ya on a banker's salary). Unless things have changed dramatically, like in totally, since 1999, neither place is worth more than a 48 hour stay no matter who you are fucking there.

I have a gorgeous honey, 25, in Dipolog now. Told her to meet in Zamboanga City as I have no desire for small town life anywhere in the world. She is complaining about the 8 hour bus ride. Too fucking bad. I have a 24 travel to Manila and then a 1 1/2 hour flight to Zam City.

BTW Mindanao ladies are often well educated, sweet, articulate and sophisticated. Over the last 16 years in Phils (18 yrs going to SE Asia) I have found Manila ladies to be much more into the "hustle" and "give me money" routine. But the internet is levelling this "Playing Field" fast.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

For my 5ooth Post I am doing something different. I had so many of you send me PM's, E-mails and Post congrats here on this Board after the birth of my son, Daniel, in Cebu last April 23. I want to take a moment to personally thank all of you for your kindness and nice words. Thanks to Tout01 for offering his much needed assistance at my son's upcoming Christening and also to GoodEnough and CebuLocal for meeting with us in Makati ten days after his birth.

Photos of my son at birth and ten days later.

Dragon Slayer

DS:

First, we had a great time toasting the new arrival with the best champagne I've ever tasted. It was hardly a tribulation for any of us, and the baby (and his Mom) is adorable. This is not however, the intent of this post.

There are many guys who post here, and who send me PMs, and who, I'm sure, send the Slayer even more PMs, wondering how to meet "normal" women. Over the past couple of weeks, DS must have posted literally dozens of pictures, with supporting text, explaining exactly how this is done.

Now granted, the Slayer dresses very well, has a wonderful line of chat, acts like a gentleman, and travels with several bottles of vintage wines and champagnes, and perhaps not all of us can duplicate all of these attributes. However, dressing well, acting like a person who respects women, and appearing to be interested in whatever these ladies are talking about is not all that difficult.

In other words, anyone willing to invest some time in pre-trip chatting, some effort in his selection of clothes, and a little time once he arrives, can meet enough women to keep him satisfied throughout his trip. A little effort and a little forethought go a long way.

I am now back in Davao, having returned yesterday afternoon. Naturally, since I hadn't been here in 3.5 weeks, we went to Henny's place for dinner and ordered from the "old" and the new restaurant. I can strongly recommend the crepes at the new place. Delicious. However, I digress. On our drive home up Rizal St. I noticed three or four lovely tuition ladies (exams begin Monday) hanging out in the street in front of Swig's. These ladies are easy to distinguish from normal street hookers. They're better dressed, cleaner, and they're not patrolling the street, but remain stationery in front of the better bars. I also noted some local lovelies at Someplace Else, diagonally across from Henny's. As this was only Thursday night, I took the plethora of talent as a good sign.

For those of you arriving prior to the conclusion of the World Cup, please note that several of the bars are showing the matches on large screen TVs. This service attracts a lot of expats, which in turn, attracts a lot of women pretending to be interested in football. The Eagle Bar in the Marco Polo is one such bar, as is El Toro which is the name of Henny's new place. Henny tells me he's had crowds in the new place, watching the matches, until about 5 AM. The World Cup is only available to those subscribing to a special premium channel and paying a "special" fee of PhP5,000 for the duration of the tournament. Not too many people have done so, hence the popularity of the bars offering telecasts of the matches is substantial.

Slayer, you need to get back here. The place is too dull without you.

:D

GE

Thanks for Valencia info CL. Welcome home GE. DS: TOTALLY agree that manila is the epicenter of all that is wrong with the PI. My profile even says I am looking for a "simple girl from the province this time" (I am honest about being divorced; the religious that are put off by divorce are not of interest anyway.) The sweet virgin with whom I have become quite close comes fom afamily that "does not believe in divorce", but I gave a good (true) reason and she seems pretty accepting of that. Also told her I would never be a church going man and she said no problem, her father isn't either (but the mother is WAY religious).

As CL indicated, Valencia appears to be a very attractive, reasonably clean, small city. However, I have no idea if there are any bars, clubs, decent hotels or even restaurants there. My knowledge of the place is limited to having driven through it several times on the way to Cagayan de Oro. I wouldn't want anyone to make a special effort to get there based on my very limited knowledge of the place. Malaybalay, which is about 90 minutes down the road toward Cagayan de Oro from Valencia appears to be a more dynamic town, and it's certainly attractive. This statement also though, is based on several very short visits on the way to CDO. I do have a colleague who stays frequently at The Pines Hotel in Malaybalay and who really likes the place. I've eaten lunch several times at the hotel, and its a very attractive place.

:D

GE

I will be staying with a lady in Valencia City in a month or so, for a couple weeks. I'll post my experience if you'd like. Seems to be a lot of attractive, intelligent ladies in Cagayan de Oro and surrounding areas. Is it like that in all of Mindanao?

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]As CL indicated, Valencia appears to be a very attractive, reasonably clean, small city. However, I have no idea if there are any bars, clubs, decent hotels or even restaurants there. My knowledge of the place is limited to having driven through it several times on the way to Cagayan de Oro. I wouldn't want anyone to make a special effort to get there based on my very limited knowledge of the place. Malaybalay, which is about 90 minutes down the road toward Cagayan de Oro from Valencia appears to be a more dynamic town, and it's certainly attractive. This statement also though, is based on several very short visits on the way to CDO. I do have a colleague who stays frequently at The Pines Hotel in Malaybalay and who really likes the place. I've eaten lunch several times at the hotel, and its a very attractive place.

:D

GE[/QUOTE]

Pals,

The 500th Post behind me it is time to move forward. Most filipinas today are NOT virgins. I think internet chat has expanded their horizons. Many, nice, educated ladies love to fuck. Just not indiscriminately and not for money. The sleazy ones are those asking for money to show themselves. My Jade (lady with the perfect set of tits) that I met first in Davao in Feb and again in Makati in May hit me up a week ago for some funds to see a doctor, claiming she is sick. She threw in a bonus saying she will give me a nude, private room show if I help her.

I fucked this lady on two trips and she is sweet and lovely. So i sent her a small amount, P 1250. This is plenty for lab tests and MD visit. THe private room would cost P 50/ 1/2 hr. After getting the money, t was a week before I heard from her. Told me first, the money was NOT enough. Then, I reminded her of her promise. Her reply, "yes I did promise you. Sorry".

Ingratitude and Deception. The little tramp has no sense of honesty. No more funds for her. If she asks, she will go on my ever increasing Filipina Ignore List.

This morning I did get treated to a great nude cam show by my lovely student nurse whose photos are below. She again lowered her nightgown revealing her beautiful, huge tits. Then placed the cam to show her pussy as she masturbated live. This lady does NOT ask me for money but wants to entice me to get there fast.

On another note, Cham, whom I was with in Davao in May (nudes below) again hit me up for money. She lives in a home owned by her sister working in London and has a car. She knows I have two little girsl on Leyte that I support and send to a private school. She wants an allowance. Her rationale is simple, I am rich so I should share my wealth with her.

When I was iwth her in Davao w dined at Claude's, drank fine wines that I purchased at GE's home, drank Champagne in the Pres SUite and flew together to Cebu. She openly stated, "You know I am a single mother. You spend so much money on yourself, you can afford to give me some." What I CAN afford to do is avoid seeing her again.

She can fine some othe guy to treat her like I did (ya, good luck girl).

Dragon Slayer

It's been over two months since we have been able to get out and around due to an injury incurred in April, so it was good to get out tonight and re-immerse myself in the sights, smells and sounds of Davao on a Saturday evening. The good news is that virtually all of the night spots we passed on Rizal St. were packed with women. Bar 183 and the immediate environs outside the bar were full, as was Swigs, which is down the street. Anyone who could not score here tonight has some serious problems and probably should not be here at all.

We had dinner at Henny's and then watched the England-Portugal match in his new place called El Toro, which is right across from the old (and still open) place, De Bonte Koe. El Toro was jammed, with the usual crowd of expats but also, as I predicted, some some really fine looking women. The expats were more interested in the match than the ladies, so they did not get much attention, but they were there.

The match was fairly boring, or at least I was fairly bored, so I sat outside for about 45 minutes watching through the window. Therefore, I had an excellent view of the tables outside of Someplace Else. They too were packed, and again, some of the women were very, very fine. This crowd had nothing to do with the World Cup. This is the largest crowd I've ever seen at that bar, and it's obvious that business in this entire complex is starting to pick up, at least on the week ends.

I happened to be sitting outside with my lady, two of her sisters (also very good looking) and the very pretty girlfriend of another friend of mine who was inside El Toro watching the match. The guys walking outside for the occassional smoke must have thought I had my own harem.

:D

GE

there have been some pms and posts on other threads from guys thinking of renting bikes when they get here. as a biker, and one who has managed to learn at least something about riding safely (if that's indeed possible) in davao, i thought i should share a response i wrote to someone recently. i've posted it below:

the only powerful bikes i've ever seen in my three years here are the harleys, yamahas and hondas imported from the us or japan. i live in davao, where a 250 cc bike is considered a "large machine." of course, at least here in davao, it's really not possible to exceed the capacity of a 125cc bike, so maybe it does not matter. i ride a 150 cc "harley copy" made in china, and about it's only relationship to a harley is that both types of machine have two tires. on the other hand, it's a comfortable road bike, and given the conditions of the streets here, the insanity of the drivers, the lack of any enforcement of traffic laws, the absence of traffic lights and stop signs, and the ubiquitous jeepneys and tuk-tuks, engine size really doesn't matter much.

in theory, here in davao, all riders must wear helmets, though the passengers need not. given that it's hardly unique to see 5 people and assorted packages and occasionally live pigs being toted on a single 125cc machine, this seems a bit bizarre, but again, no one here really cares. your biggest obstacle to safety will be the "tricycles" which are 125cc bikes with a shell dropped over them to sit up to six people. they are mostly full and can never achieve a speed of more than 5-10 kph; they never have working tail lights so at night they're tough to see, and the drivers are untrained, insane, and indifferent. it's easy to run into one or get run into by one simply because it suddenly swerves across your path, stops in the middle of any given street, or simply because it's night and you didn't see it.

if you are going to ride a bike here, and if you are not familiar with how people drive, just anticipate that the guy in front of you will turn right if he's in the left lane or left if he's in the right lane; that the guy behind you will try to pass regardless of weather, oncoming traffic or distance from a corner; that no one stops at any crossroad for any reason and that the solid steel jeepneys stop, go, turn and break down wherever they please. in other words, just assume that every vehicle around you will do the most stupid, mindless thing you can imagine and you will be rarely disappointed and safer than if you assume there's any rationale to the way people drive.

remember, that here in the pi (at least in davao) most people receive licenses through the simple expedient of bribing someone and most have no clue how to drive in a way that we might define driving. also remember that 95% of the people have zero funds for maintaining anything, so be prepared for the absence of any vehicular lights, "required" emissions controls, turn signals, or road courtesy.

be safe and assume that no one else cares, cause no one else does.

:d

ge

My lady and I had an appointment with a new dentist whose office is in Matina Town Square, which is a place I had never been. It's located on Quirino St. directly accross the street from Ateneo High School, about a 15 minute drive or less from the Marco Polo Hotel.

The "square" is really more like a "T" with small stores, bars and restaurants lining all parts. It's very attractive and clean, with the small businesses taking obvious care to maintain their places well. I noticed a billiards parlor, several bars and a BlueGray coffee shop and there were several places that I did not see.

I was there from about 7 to 8:30 in the evening on a Thursday night and none of the places were crowded. The folks who were there looked to be in the 16-20 year old age group, though age is a tough thing to judge for me in the Philippines. I'm told though, that some of these places attract large crowds on the week ends, and that very few expats frequent them. This could be because they offer little opportunity, but it's most likely because there aren't so many expatriates here who know about the place. Given that it's not a problem to get there, and no problem at all to find a taxi and leave if you don't like it, the area may be worth exploring for an hour or so on a Friday or Saturday evening.

:D

GE

I've never been to Matina Sq, but If you take a taxi from Davo up to the area of Jack's Ridge (recommended) you will pass Matina Sq. I don't remember the day I passed there, but I saw enough potential that I jotted down the name.

Someone recently posted about the Ridge, and it is a good place for a date.

GE's notes about biking are spot on. The funny thing is I've never seen an accident in the Philippines except for one incident in Manila when a foreigner in a rent a car rear-ended a jeepney on Roxas blvd.

As for biking, I tooled around Cebu and Manila on a bicycle. This was great fun, but probably insane. I've never tried skydiving, but why should I. Ride a bicycle around Manila or Cebu and you will have far greater exhileration!

X

[QUOTE=X Man]I've never been to Matina Sq, but If you take a taxi from Davo up to the area of Jack's Ridge (recommended) you will pass Matina Sq. I don't remember the day I passed there, but I saw enough potential that I jotted down the name.

Someone recently posted about the Ridge, and it is a good place for a date.

GE's notes about biking are spot on. The funny thing is I've never seen an accident in the Philippines except for one incident in Manila when a foreigner in a rent a car rear-ended a jeepney on Roxas blvd.

As for biking, I tooled around Cebu and Manila on a bicycle. This was great fun, but probably insane. I've never tried skydiving, but why should I. Ride a bicycle around Manila or Cebu and you will have far greater exhileration!

X[/QUOTE]
It's true that going out Quirino is one way to get to Jack's Ridge and you will surely pass the square. It's also true that, give how people drive here, there are fewer accidents than you would expect. However, I've seen lots and lots of them, usually caused by no one yielding at an intersection. I've also seen bikes sucked under jeepneys and cars brushing bikes and toppling the bike and the riders. Sky diving is probably safer than riding a bicycle around Davao, where again, riders wear dark cloths at night and bike lights have not yet been discovered.

Take care X. Next time you're here, I'll lend you my bike and you can really get a taste of the traffic thrill.

:D

GE

Last year Matina Square and the Auto Club were two of the places that were said to be taking business away from The Venue. I did get to the Auto Club, which is near Victoria Plaza. It was happening but a lot of the crowd looked dangerously young to me. I didn't have a chance to try Matina Square, but I might give it a look next month when I'm in town.

Jack's Ridge is a good place for a date. Girls really appreciate being taken there, and have been known to show their appreciation in very gratifying ways.

I will be in Davao next month (wk of 8/21) meeting some ladies I set up on line. One is from out of town and, depending on how it goes, I may or may not want them staying at my hotel. Can anyone suggest a decent pension house to put them up in. I plan on staying at the Casa Leticia.

Also, I would look forward to meeting up with a regular Davao traveler for a beer and short orientation.

Bicycle or bike? I like to ride two wheeled contraptions that don't have engines. My second Filipina SERIOUS girlfriend (met in HK) visted me in San Diego, California. The guy I shared and apartment with had a motorbike, but she seemed disappointed when I pointed at my bicycle...bicycle......Queen tune now bouncing around in my head....


[QUOTE=GoodEnough]It's true that going out Quirino is one way to get to Jack's Ridge and you will surely pass the square. It's also true that, give how people drive here, there are fewer accidents than you would expect. However, I've seen lots and lots of them, usually caused by no one yielding at an intersection. I've also seen bikes sucked under jeepneys and cars brushing bikes and toppling the bike and the riders. Sky diving is probably safer than riding a bicycle around Davao, where again, riders wear dark cloths at night and bike lights have not yet been discovered.

Take care X. Next time you're here, I'll lend you my bike and you can really get a taste of the traffic thrill.

:D

GE[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I meant motorcycle, the big red one that's sitting in my driveway right now. I'm pretty sure I haven't been on a bicycle since I got my driver's license and that was a long, long time ago. Anyway, riding a bicycle here in Davao would be acting out a death wish that I simply don't have. You could however buy a Chinese-made bicycle here for about $50 though I have no idea what you would do with it when you left as there's probably not much of a market for the used bikes.

:D

GE

Pals,
I am in the Uk visiting my Beijing Doll. I spent two days with my Nephew at his place in NYC. Got him and myself booked into our Hotel in Davao as we arrive in the middle of the Fiesta. Not my idea but the kid's dates are fixed and I did not want him "tripping over his dick" on his rookie trip. He is set on meeting Rose and no point in my trying to dissuade him.

The Pension House on Illustre St, directly across from O'Flanagan's Pub is supposed to be okay. Again, I am going on what I was told. This is just a short walk from Casa Leticia which is right around the corner on J Camus St.

I will be in/out of Davao in August as I have business to deal with and my son's christening which will remove most Davao regulars from the city for a couple days to attend this. I imagine the kid, my nephew, will leave Davao only for my Son and then to go to the Island and be with my daughter. He will NOT be permitted to have Rose accompany him as this witch is a real demon. Yes, I introduced them (no good deed goes unpunished) back when I was with her 22 y/o sister. So, he will return here quickly.

We are in adjoining rooms which will complicate things. I have no desire to see this Rose or her sister (big tits and all) during this trip. Have made plans that will occupy my time. We both will spend a night or two at Ground Zero however. I want him to take in the local nightlife there and meet some of the local ladies. I do NOT want my nephew to be aware of this Board. In many ways I am responsible for him and he respects my advice and judgment.

On another note, Davao is an absolute bargain. For what I am paying for 2 days hotel and meals/drinks here in the UK I could stay for at least 7 nights in a fine Hotel in davao, including my food and drinks. Is the lady her worth it? ABSOLUTELY. As usual I brought my own Wine and Champagne which has saved me a few hundred dollars.

Dragon Slayer

Thanks for the clarification. I'm not sure why your motorized bike would be safer than one without the motor, but I'll take your word for it. As for a used bicycle, I would just give it away. Charity.

I didn't notice your bike when I visited you...I guess I was too busy paying attention to those two creatures who greeted me at the gate: a beautiful Filipina and a big dog with big teeth!

X

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Sorry, I meant motorcycle, the big red one that's sitting in my driveway right now. I'm pretty sure I haven't been on a bicycle since I got my driver's license and that was a long, long time ago. Anyway, riding a bicycle here in Davao would be acting out a death wish that I simply don't have. You could however buy a Chinese-made bicycle here for about $50 though I have no idea what you would do with it when you left as there's probably not much of a market for the used bikes.

:D

GE[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xtorted Decay]I will be staying with a lady in Valencia City in a month or so, for a couple weeks. I'll post my experience if you'd like. Seems to be a lot of attractive, intelligent ladies in Cagayan de Oro and surrounding areas. Is it like that in all of Mindanao?[/QUOTE]


I have some relatives in Maramag which is just down the road from Valencia, Been thru Valencia many times, some small hotels there, can't remember the name, one of them is by the side of the road and features a blue bikini clad manikin in one of those cement waterfalls the Filipinos like to build for decoration. The place is cheap, dirt cheap. Not much to do there, might be some local Videoke your lady might take you in where you can sing Kareoke songs and drink a few san migs, you'll be a celebrity, not another white face around but the people there are SUPER friendly. Shake hands with everybody and smile, be polite, you'll make a lot of new friends. I would sugest taking her to CDO and check out some of the clubs like exotica, but judging from the number of invatational smiles I get everytime I go there with "The boss" you might want to take a solo tour.

A LOT of the GRO's (prostys) in CDO come from the surrounding Bukindnon area (Valencia), It is a VERY poor and everyone is dependant on agriculture for a living. Many of these girls are just plain nice sweet young ladies who have absolutely no way of supporting themselves or their families. There is something about these girls, CDO has a rep of having the HORNIEST women in the PI, a few I've had the pleasure of meeting ALL hail from the Budkidnon area. Every time I go to Maramag Im surrounded by my relatives and all the
un attached (and even some of the attached) ladies beg me to intorduce them to a nice foreigner.

You'll have a ball, I suggest going to CDO by plane from Manila. Take the taxi to Agora terminal in CDO, get the Air con express bus to Davao and You'll be in Valencia in less than three hours. Coming from Davao it is a longer bus ride that gets tedious, like five or six hours.

Good luck and let us know about those hot blooded lasses in Bukidnon!


The Spamhog

SH: Valencia sounds like paradise, and I've met a couple online from there, but I read recently that Malabalay City has been one of the most active hotspots for violence and was a tad concerned about driving through there in a rented car. Also, south of Maramag the road from Davao appears to pass through Cotabato area. Have you encountered roadblocks or bandits on the road? Obviously I would not drive it at night. Thanks

[QUOTE=Surfer]SH: Valencia sounds like paradise, and I've met a couple online from there, but I read recently that Malabalay City has been one of the most active hotspots for violence and was a tad concerned about driving through there in a rented car. Also, south of Maramag the road from Davao appears to pass through Cotabato area. Have you encountered roadblocks or bandits on the road? Obviously I would not drive it at night. Thanks[/QUOTE]

I don't know the Spam Hog's view of this, but in the case of our company, we retrict the hours of road travel in this area to the period between 7:30 AM and darkness. If you stick to this rule, you should be fine. We have cars plying the route all the time, including last week, and we've never encountered any problems at all. The bad guys seems to strike in the off hours, and I've never heard of them hitting the main roads during the day. Whatever you do, make sure you're at your destination by nightfall.

The other piece of advice I would offer is not to travel alone. If possible take a Filipino with you and failing that take a friend. Even better, use a driver, use a car with tinted windows and you sit in the back seat.

:D

GE

Can someone give me the correct name/address of "ground zero."

I did a hot sync with my palm and lost a lot of info. Although most of it can be replaced, thanks to this board, it will be a pain trying to find this precise info.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I don't know the Spam Hog's view of this, but in the case of our company, we retrict the hours of road travel in this area to the period between 7:30 AM and darkness. If you stick to this rule, you should be fine. We have cars plying the route all the time, including last week, and we've never encountered any problems at all. The bad guys seems to strike in the off hours, and I've never heard of them hitting the main roads during the day. Whatever you do, make sure you're at your destination by nightfall.

The other piece of advice I would offer is not to travel alone. If possible take a Filipino with you and failing that take a friend. Even better, use a driver, use a car with tinted windows and you sit in the back seat.

:D

GE[/QUOTE]


Gentlemen:

Good advice by GE. Wise to travel with a companion who can go for help while you babaysit the vehicle. A few good reasons why it is NOT a good idea to be on the 'road" after 7 30 pm. First it is dark as hell in most places outside the city, no streetlights like the USA. I do drive at night but that is around Davao and close environs. No problem with it, once again location, location, location. Driving the stretch from Davao to CDO i've done twice in my green weenie mobile, always started in the morning made sure I was in CDO by late afternoon allowing for problems like gas, flat tire etc. Like I said, break down ANYTIME outside a city and you are in for a wait for assistance, then you go to find somebody who can GIVE you assistance. No AAA here and Filipinos don't like doing things at night.

Second reason is the road conditions, enough switchbacks on those roads to dislocate a snakes spine. EVERY time I venture forth, be it by bus or POV, I see an overturned vehicle of some sort, usually a top heavy truck. Bus drivers are a bit.. errr... daring and I wouldn't want to be on board when they are twisting around those dark unlit roads in a night time run.

SECURITY. The freaks DO come out at night. The NPA (Communist guerillas) often stage their exercises at night. The have been known to stop buses from a certain line that doesn't pay its "revolutionary taxes" on time and demand tribute. I recall a few incidents in the past five years where passengers were made to get off and the lads set fire to the bus to further emphasize their point. The only bright spot is that the NPA does not harm civilians, but why push it. There are a few local bandit gangs operating in that area also doing sometimes the same thing but robbing the passengers. I recall one incident in whioch they used a carabao to drag a log in front of the road and set fire to it to stop a bus. The "Danger zone" is south of Maramang to about an hour north of Davao. Lots of check points on the road by the AFP and a special task force that has been trying to clean up the area.

Can't say I've heard much about Malabalay situation, times I've been there or through it the place seemed like typical small town Philippines. Had a girlie inthat place many years ago, no one ever hassled me. I know the bus terminal there is filled with thieves and pick pockets.

Regards

Spamhog

[quote=billpsu]can someone give me the correct name/address of "ground zero."

i did a hot sync with my palm and lost a lot of info. although most of it can be replaced, thanks to this board, it will be a pain trying to find this precise info.

thank you.[/quote]
i cannot give you the correct name or address, but i can tell you how to find it. "ground zero" as it was aptly named by the dragon slayer, sits on a corner diagonally across the street from the apo view hotel, and just up the street from the casa leticia hotel. if you are at the apo view (known to every taxi driver), turn right out of the entrance and walk up the street about 25 meters. you will then note, across the street, a 24/7 convenience store, brightly lit, with a concrete terrace and rep001tered tables outside. you have arrived. if you're at casa leticia, turn left out of the entrance and walk about 15 meters up the street till you reach the corner, and look to your left. you will have arrived. if you're at o'flannigans on illustre st., turn right outside the door and walk to the corner and you will notice it on your right.

speaking of o'flannigans, maurice the owner, is still in the us so the place is presumably still being run by his wife. it's probably wiser to avoid the bar in maurice's absence. he will not be back in davao until october, i'm told by one of the australian denizens of the bar whom i encountered on sunday. it was the first time i ever saw him in natural light.

:d

ge

thank you very much.

[quote=goodenough]i cannot give you the correct name or address, but i can tell you how to find it. "ground zero" as it was aptly named by the dragon slayer, sits on a corner diagonally across the street from the apo view hotel, and just up the street from the casa leticia hotel. if you are at the apo view (known to every taxi driver), turn right out of the entrance and walk up the street about 25 meters. you will then note, across the street, a 24/7 convenience store, brightly lit, with a concrete terrace and rep001tered tables outside. you have arrived. if you're at casa leticia, turn left out of the entrance and walk about 15 meters up the street till you reach the corner, and look to your left. you will have arrived. if you're at o'flannigans on illustre st., turn right outside the door and walk to the corner and you will notice it on your right.

speaking of o'flannigans, maurice the owner, is still in the us so the place is presumably still being run by his wife. it's probably wiser to avoid the bar in maurice's absence. he will not be back in davao until october, i'm told by one of the australian denizens of the bar whom i encountered on sunday. it was the first time i ever saw him in natural light.

:d

ge[/quote]

Pals,

I will NEVER complain about prices in Davao or the Philippines ever again. The Uk, in my opinion, is the worst value for money paid in the world. Did not find a single fucking hotel that offered air conditioning even as a luxurious "extra" in the hot, humid summer. Paid $ 130 US for one place that was essentially a glorified Motel 6 and would have cost $ 40/Nt here in the USA. British beers cost more than in my City.

Happy to be home in the southwest. Wasted a couple nights in NYC on the way back which were originally to be spent with my family there. Stayed at a hotel instead and rested till my dawn departure for the other side of the USA. Hope the rest of you have normal, close families.

O'Flanagan's is fine in the late evening now after Maurice's wife heads home. Whing or Ann work then and the place has a semblance of normality to it. To think Maurice used to get on my case about some of my "difficulties". He should fucking talk with the woman he is married to. No woman I have anywhere is such that I have to retreat for several months and stay with friends. Talk about the "pig calling the cow fat".

Someone needs to go in this place during the day and "paint a smile on the wife". I will drop by at night when I get back. Still enjoy stopping by.

Anyway, it is good to be home and hope all are doing good.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

Now with my nephew travelling to Davao shortly, I guess I will be spending time here. I have not hung out here for nearly two years. I do enjoy it but the simple fact is that on my last ten trips to Davao I was constantly with a beautiful lady. No need to hunt one up at Ground Zero. But with the kid along I will stop by in the early evenings.

The nephew is mainly interested in my former 22 y/o's sister, whom I do not like. So, he will be on his own most of the time which we both agreed was best. When meeting a woman for the first time it is best to "fly solo". No need for anyone else around to fuck it up. Best to "Sink or swim" on your own. No one but yourself to blame. As I told him, I have met 95% of the women I met in Asia when hanging out alone.

Davao is a Non-Smoking City which I really love, as I hate being around that. My nephew is a very heavy smoker, despite his former claims to the contrary. Spent two nights at his apartment in NYC before flying to the UK. He smoked constantly and had to have all my clothes cleaned as soon as I arrived in England. It was a primary consideration for me getting a Hotel on my return before going back home to my City.

Not being able to smoke indoors and my aversion to sitting outside in the heat and humidity means the best choice will be Ground Zero. If I must deal with his addiction, I want to at least have lovely, young women to talk with, hang out with and fuck. But I do not intend to be there too long. Meet a woman and give him my "well wishes" as the Lady and I go off to some nice, air conditioned bar or restaurant or my Pres Suite where we can chat, drink champagne and fuck without having to deal with smokers. If he has the 21 y/o younger sister with him, you can count the time I spend there in micro seconds.

Sadly the kid does not drink wine or champagne. Only beer and inexpensive whiskey. How "blue collar johnny" got into my immediate family I do not quite know. This will be different. He grew up in the same home with myself, my brother and our father, all of whom do not smoke and all were ballplayers when young.

GE, we will need a couple of cases of budweiser for my Nephew. What a fucking waste. All the great wine and champagne we will have with us and he only wants jameson and beer. I am truly surprised he doesn't go for fat, boozing/smoking women as well.

This will be different. Time for a little change I guess. If he hits it off with Elaine's sister he will most likely spend his time alone with her, leaving me free to take lovely ladies to Henny's, El Toro and Claude's and elsewhere as we desire.

I am THRILLED to hear the no smoking craze has hit Davao (now when will it hit Indonesia? The biggest drawback to that country is not Islamiscists but something much more insidious, smoke!).

One thing I long appreciated about coming home after trips to California was the smoke free environment. That was HUGE after struggling to breathe in smoke infested countries like Japan, China, Indonesia, Vietnam, Argentina Germany and Spain to name the very worst offenders.

Filthy, disgusting and deadly, nephew or not I would not let him toke his tar sticks in my presence no siree. He will find plenty of Filipinos to drink Ginebra or Mekong with (few Filipinos have ever tasted REAL wine or champagne).

Is there a GOOD bottle shop in Davao by chance DS? Too damn heavy to carry more than 2 bottles, and a well chilled California Chardonnay is SUCH a refreshing way to beat the heat and humidity. Not to mention how easy the babae seem to get drunk on it (because it is SO smooth they will take more than a sip or two).

In terms of your concern the kid will drink Bud instead, looks like your nephew's loss is GE's gain LOL

Pals,

In my opinion there is no decent wine shop in Davao. The Swiss Deli has some but the content, quality and pricing were off when I was there. Ralph's at Venue Plaza, the place where the b___, Chin, drugged me that fateful Monday night in Aug 2004 is mainly supplied with poor quality wines. The closest I have found isTinder Box on Archbishop Reyes, next to Crossroads Complex (great pussy here after 10:00PM Thurs - Sunday nts) in Cebu City. The Italian and French reds are adequate. Northern Ca wines so overpriced it would make you sick.

As I stated many times, there are no reasonably priced Champagnes sold here. The best Value for Money is the Beringer Rose' Sparkling Wine (champagne NOT from the Champagne Region of France) from No Ca. At $ 19.50 this is a good buy. I like it. My daughter's mother prefers this to Taittinger, Veuve Cliquot, Gosset Millenium '96 ($ 95/Btl), Moet Chandon Brut Imperial and Taittinger Brut Rose ($ 75/btl), all magnificent Champagnes. I suggest buying 3-4 bottles of this for a week Trip. Will work wonders in helping you get laid with beautiful, young, regular Filipinas.

Surfer, Consider bringing your wines in the styrofoam wine shippers that you can pick up for free at your wine store. The wine can then be shipped safely in your checked baggage. Two - three bottles in your carryon is the most anyone would want to handle. I bring five (5) bottles of Champagne in my checked bag and 2-3 bottles of Fine Red wine in my carryon.

Since "Dirty Harry" became Mayor of Davao a few years ago, the City has been a "Smoke Free" environment. This gets no mention here as virtually all of the guys from this Board who travel here are smokers. I did not even bother to bring this up as I felt it would be meaningless. I hate being around smoking and tolerate it only minimally. There is no smoking in any Hotel rooms, restaurants or Bars. My Suite has a long Terrace where a guy can step out to smoke. I made certain my nephew's room had a bigger terrace as he will spend most of his time out there.

I know this 21 y/o girl does not like smoking as she commented on this when she accompanied me and her older sister to dinner one night. It would be useless to advise my nephew. I do not plan to spend too much time with him as it was miserable in his apartment with him constantly smoking. Then, I said nothing as it was his home. In Davao "johnny redneck" will be doing his own thing if he wants to smoke all the time. He really needs Maurice O'Flanagan, another smoker, back here. O'Flanagan's Pub with its smoking room is perfect for him. They both love beer in large quantities and the jameson's Irish whiskey. The Slayer loves Fine Wines and Good Champagnes and Lovely Pussy in large quantities.

Dragon Slayer

[QUOTE=Surfer]I
In terms of your concern the kid will drink Bud instead, looks like your nephew's loss is GE's gain LOL[/QUOTE]

The Slayer usually brings with him several bottles of excellent reds and Champagnes and it's difficult to believe that the nephew is not a wine drinker. Never mind, the beer is plentiful, though I don't think I've ever seen Budweiser, and I'll grab a case of San Mig before he arrives. It's true as DS indicates that there are no good wine shops here. Occassionally, you can find decent French/Australian reds at Gaisano that somehow manage to sneak in. Also, Henny has just added a very small number of French wines and has created a "special" wine list. I had a decent Haut Medoc there the other night, but the price was P2700 for a bottle that I could buy in Paris for about 12 Euros. On the other hand, it sure beat the mid-priced Australian stuff that I normally drink there.

I still haven't shown DS the Italian place I discovered that sells a wide range of Chiantis. I need to remember to do that when he gets back to town, as his knowledge of Italian reds is much greater than mine and I'm pretty sure he knows enough to write a column or a book about Champagnes. Some of the bottles of Champagne that he's brought over here have been beyond superb.

I don't think that Davao could support a fine wine store. The market here for expensive stuff simply isn't large enough.

In vino veritas.

:D

GE

Too damn hot in the PI (well maybe Baguio or Bontoc) to drink reds IMHO. I also am not a beer drinker. With the 50lb per bag weight limit STRICTLY ENFORCED here in the wasteland, that limits the number of bottles one can bring (without paying STEEP overweight chrages) as each bottle weighs about 3 or 4 pounds.

Speaking of overpriced Champagnes, I recall my wedding night in Manila after the reception my ex and I went looking for a Kristal or Shramsberg or something nice but it was in the evening. After much searching, we ended up at a7/11 in Ermita where I had to pay like $50 for a bottle of Moet that had not been chilled since leaving france ):

DS: I will bring a bottle from my father's private reserve (and he has a VERY impressive earthquake proof cellar) and promise a smoke free meeting if you and GE would be kind enough to grant me an audience in the first week of September.

[QUOTE=Surfer]Too damn hot in the PI (well maybe Baguio or Bontoc) to drink reds IMHO. I also am not a beer drinker. With the 50lb per bag weight limit STRICTLY ENFORCED here in the wasteland, that limits the number of bottles one can bring (without paying STEEP overweight chrages) as each bottle weighs about 3 or 4 pounds.

Speaking of overpriced Champagnes, I recall my wedding night in Manila after the reception my ex and I went looking for a Kristal or Shramsberg or something nice but it was in the evening. After much searching, we ended up at a7/11 in Ermita where I had to pay like $50 for a bottle of Moet that had not been chilled since leaving france ):

DS: I will bring a bottle from my father's private reserve (and he has a VERY impressive earthquake proof cellar) and promise a smoke free meeting if you and GE would be kind enough to grant me an audience in the first week of September.[/QUOTE]
Well, I cannot speak for DS, but for for me it's too good an offer to refuse. I will even go outside to smoke my disgusting Monte Cristo cigar brought from Havana through Singapore to Davao. In fact, if you can steal two bottles I may even forego the cigar, at least until I am well out of range. As to the heat and humidity, usually we consume the good wines in the comfort of fully air conditioned rooms, so the heat does not become a factor.

:D

GE

An exhaustive review of Surfer's posts reveal that:

Surfer is either at your throat or at your feet.

The good mongers of Davao seem to be getting the subservient treatment and I'm curious why. Lets see......

GE's postings are balanced and dry with occasional shades of sarcasm. DS's posts are full bodied, resonant and border on sensual overload. No hints or shadings here. Hmmm

Also, with Surfer's Market Street, San Francisco, clientele, he could never afford anything more than a bottle of Yellowtail, so whats up.......????????

I've got it! Surfer is trying to cadge GE and DS's supply and will actually bring a bottle of Yellowtail as his contribution to this 'audience'.

Now it makes sense!

BTW, I think I know the 7/11 that Surfer stole that bottle of champagne from in Ermita. Its on Mabini and there's a photo of him right above the sign that says ' no backpackers allowed'.

'Earthquake proof cellar' indeed!!

Don

Pals,

I just received word that my Father in NYC was taken to the Hospital today. I am saying this to inform all guys who have been waiting for the exact date of my son's Reception in the Philippines. I do not know what will happen yet as I have heard first that he is dying and then that this is uncertain. I live near the west coast and NYC is a day's trip flying. I just got back from there 2 days ago. I will update all my pals shortly. I have called my son's mother to inform her of this.

Surfer, I believe you should have no trouble bring 3-4 bottles of wine in your checkd baggage. This will still be only 15-20 lbs and you have plenty of room under the weight limit for clothing. I have never had an "excess weight assessment". I do travel using a gold card but still think of how much clothing weighs. What else do we carry in our checked baggage?

I will most likely fly WBC this time but if I do fly economy, I will have two plastic pepsi 20oz bottles full of fine, red wines. At $ 5/btl beer or cheap red wine, the charge is rediculous. At least I can then enjoy drinking some great wines on the long, horrendous trip in economy class.

I hope I can relate that I will continue my planned Trip in the next day or two. My nephew says he flys even if my Father dies, according to him, but this will NOT happen. He will be back with the Family then.

Claude's Restaurant on Rizal St has 7-8 good French wines. If you buy it to "take out" you get a 25% discount (may need to mention GE). These are decent French wines at a reasonable price. He has one Champagne there and after the 25% "take out discount" it is $ 60 US. It is just okay and there are many, much better Champagnes for less money. Buy in No California or adjoining States and bring to the Phils.

The Champagne sold by Wine Enthusiast in their web site for $ 28.95 is good. I bought a case and got a 15% discount. Cheapest genuine Champagne I ever purchased and good. I have had about 50 authentic Champagnes and another 40 Sparkling Wines. In France there are over 5000 different Champagnes in the Champagne Region and then there are the thousands of Sparkling Wines in France (over 2000), Italy, Germany, Spain, No California (over 1000) and elsewhere. Many are fabulous and many are very inexpensive. You pay anywhere from $ 20 -$200 more for one from the Champagne Region of the same quality as a Sparkling Wine.

Surfer, to my knowledge Krug Champagne is NOT sold anywhere in the Phils. At $ 150/btl for non-vintage Champagne here, it would be about $ 300/btl if you could find it. Buy here and bring there, which is what I did in April when we drank Krug for my Son's Birth Celebration in Makati with GE and Cebulocal.
Honestly, Vieuve Cliquot and Taittinger are close and at $ 35/btl much more reasonable. I had the Krug for a special day (like the birth of my son). I have the "88 Dom and the "95 Celebrus for similar dates. Have to decide when, along with the "95 Taittinger Comte de Champagne.

BTW, Filipinas love both the good Champagne and the fine wines. Like I mentioned, you DO NOT need a "deep wallet" as you can get Beringer Brut Rose' at Tinder Box in Cebu City for about $ 19 US.

Dragon Slayer

Allow me to offer my hopes that it's not as bad as it sounds and for a swift recovery.

In addition to clothes, I bring lots of candy (always hit Costco before traveling overseas) and pasalubong for the girls I meet and their families. It works wonders.

The othere thing about carrying boittles in the suitcase is TSA ALWAYS opens the bag (spherical looking objects on xray) and never closes it properly (plus I hate them snooping around some othe items of use in the PI).

I will bring at least 2 bottles and hope you can join GE and I for some fine Chardonnay from the cellar of SF's #1 connosuer (my father).

Pals,

Took a break from my work and checked the Boards here. Stumbled onto the new Board in the Phils where the primary purpose appears to be several guys who hate each other discussing how to get at one another. Since returning from my Horrible trip to NYC and not so great trip to the UK, into the horrific heat here, I have been less than my usual positive, upward self.

However, after a few minutes reading Posts there (some even mentioned me by name), I was falling over laughing, tears running down my face. Last time I laughed that hard was about three years ago when a "good ol boy" described his foray down to a Mexican border town for a weekend. When I replied to him, "you paid $340 fucking dollars for a night with a mexican border town prostitute"!!! He replied, "you have to remember that this included $10 for the short time room". I laughed so fucking hard I fell off my barstool.

The guys are discussing taking their "Show on the road to Davao". I will have to reconsider bringing my two little girls here during that time. Can see them now as we approach Henny's two Restaurants from the courtyard asking me, "Why are those men beating each other daddy"? We could even be sitting at one of the Courtyard tables enjoying a bottle of french red, GE and myself, and have some guy get thrown onto our table, knocking the wine over us. Me then telling GE, "I think we are supposed to drink it not wear it".

I wonder how my lovely Pixie (see photos here) would react as she views, firsthand, a group of american men spreading "brotherly love", bashing each other's heads in. My explaining to her how sometimes american men have to let off a little "steam" to relieve the tension of life. I can imagine this sexy nymph's reply, "isn't that what you do when you fuck me 3-4 times a day"?

Anyway, this coming Trip will be interesting as they always manage to be. I got my mood improved now and this is good. Thanks guys. I know if my nephew witnesses any of this, he will just call it a typical work day on the Force back in NYC. Just don't knock over his beer.

Dragon Slayer

Hey DS, I'm glad you enjoyed our little war. Just speaking for myself, I do try to make my posts entertaining, and they amuse the hell out of me, so perhaps euphemisticaly, I suspect that there are plenty of others out there that are also getting a laugh.

The only problem is that its the complainers who pm Jackson and get us into trouble. All of us got an email from Jackson that basically says that we can continue the war in that thread only. If we stray outside, instant banishment. So I have to be careful here.

Its been a while since I read anything that I didn't already know. I mean how complicated is it, banging a ho? Where the $5 blowjobs can be obtained and suchlike are boring after a while, so, we juice it up. There's always some giddy target and before you know it, the insults are flying and some of us are having fun.

Dont worry about a fracas in Davao. It'll never happen. This is cyber stuff.

Don

Pals,

I got chatting with pussy from Davao this morning. She got pissed off when I asked a simle question 20 minutes into our chat, "do you have big boobs"? If this gets her upset I cannot be bothered. Virtually no women in china or the Phils get offended by this question. I just like to know in advance if I will have some nice tits to hang onto.

The lovely Eva, age 20, in Davao came online after the "uptight virgin". She is hot but does not have big tits. Started into her usual line about her problems (girl has more fucking problems then a politician down ten points in the latest poll). All Eve's problems can be solved with an influx of $$ from whatever dumbshit she is chatting with at the time. I just pretended she never mentioned this, even after she repeated it three times. So she got an attitude. She has small tits anyway.

I believe that Hot Legs II in d/t Davao is the best place for professional pussy. Ground Zero has far more than its share of semi-pro and amateur pussy from 7:00PM on (quality declines after 10:00PM) but this is not a sure thing. Rizal Street and Rizal Promenade (latter only after 10:00PM) are my next choice. The Clubs get plenty of women here on Thurs -Sun nights. Hit or miss the other nights.

I was unimpressed with the other Clubs. Roman Plaza has as many women as Silver Dollar in Cebu so I would think this would be good, although I never took a woman out of here. Venue Plaza is great on Fri/Sat nights and Halos Disco here gets plenty of young pussy late in the evening ( I went by with a girl at 12:30AM and it was packed).

It is always good to line up at least 2-3 girls over the internet in Davao. This saves on your "down time" while visiting here. Most regular women hold full time jobs so they will not be able to monopolize your time unless you ask them.

Dragon Slayer

I have been to the Phils several times over the last couple of years, but only Manila, Subic, and Angeles. I'll be coming again in late August and will spend 5 days in AC with a newbie, then go to work in Manila for a few days. After that, I have 5 days at the end of August and first of September that I want to spend somewhere I have not been before. I'd like to take scuba lessons, and party at night. Go-gos and hostess bars are fine, regular bars are even better if my chances of success are good. (I'm an overwight American in my mid-40s. I have good manners and I treat women well, but I am definitely a shorts and t-shirt guy in hot climates. I seem to get a resonable amount of interest from regular girls in Manila, but have never been to any of the regular clubs.)

I have a friend from Davao who thinks I would like it there, but he admits to being biased. He mentioned this after I told him I was considering Cebu. He can arrange for some of his family and friends to pick me up from the airport and show me around, which is a plus, although it might become a negative in the evenings.

What do you guys think? I have been reading about Davao here the last few days, and it sounds good. If some of you who live there are interested in meeting up, that would make it even better. I could return the favor if you are ever in Nanjing, China--not that this is very likely. I'm a non-smoker and both a beer and wine drinker (although I think anyone who drinks Bud when Cerveza Negra, Red Horse, or even San Mig & San Mig Light are available has really strange taste). I'm fairly easy-going but I have a low tolerance for boredom when on vacation. I prefer Rock, Blues, Heavy Metal, and Jazz, but I can endure hip-hop and dance music if that is what the girls want.

Guys:

For the first time in about four months, and maybe longer, we hit the Blue Room at the Apo View Hotel last night. It was great to be back after the protracted idelness enforced by my foot injury, and I had forgotten what a fun place this is to pass an evening with good friends, good, live music, and top shelf booze.

The band played three sets, and we came in during the middle of the first set and stayed until the end. On the way, we hooked up with good friends of ours--he's a 60ish Australian and she's a 26 year old filipina--and boogied till about 2 AM. We also ran into a Danish guy whom we both know, of around the same age. I always thought that he was a nice guy, if somewhat stiff, uncommunicative and staid. However, he dumped his Danish wife/girlfriend and showed up with a beautiful twenty-something who used to work at Some Place Else. What a difference a lay makes! He's now witty, chatty, laid back, and has a permanent smile plastered on his previously dour face.

I was thinking, as I looked around the room, at other expats about my age, sitting with their much younger partners, that most of these guys--myself included--have discovered the real fountain of youth and are not ever again going to deprive themselves from drinking its waters. These guys were among the happiest, most relaxed people I've seen in a long time. They too were having great time, and we had an excellent evening.

The Blue Room is not a pick up spot normally. However, I did spot two fine looking young women who came in alone. I am reasonably sure that it would have been relatively easy to strike up conversations. Maybe these girls got bored at Liquid (which is just next door) and ambled over.

The band played a lot of old rock and roll and of course every guy in the room glommed onto the tunes immediately since the stuff from the sixties was part of our cultural histories. These guys knew their audience. This used to be a pure jazz bar, which was why I liked it so much. I was told by the manager that jazz is now played on Mondays and Tuesdays. I guess it's rock on all of the other days of the week.

We were there from just after 9 until 2, consuming Absolut Vodka and lime juice (gimlets). I think we had 7 drinks, plus a coke, plus a cold cut platter and our whole bill was less than PhP1,300 ($24-25). Not bad at all considering the quality of the booze, the great music and the good time we had. I've got to get there with the DS when he's here again. He will, I know, like the place.

Hippie:

It will take you four days to get your PADI Open Water license here. If you're interested, send me a PM and I'll get you in touch with the best instructor in Davao. He is truly excellent and he will make a safe diver out of you.

Given my slow but steady rate of recovery from my foot injury, I figure it will be another month or so until I'm back underwater. When I do return though, I plan to dive every week end weather permitting, for three or four months to make up for lost time. You would be welcome to join us on these excursions.

Like your friend, I am also biased in favor of Davao. I like Cebu, but Davao has less traffic, is more laid back and more relaxing. It's also cheaper, but it does not have the abundance of T&A bars that Cebu has. There are dozens of native places and about 10 bars catering to high end Filipinos and expats. Of all these, as DS said in his last post, Hot Legs II is probably the best. You can verify this with your friend who lives here. If he's an expat, I probably know him as the community is fairly small, which is another reason the place is so attractive to me.

:D

GE

GE,

Thanks for the offer to point me in the direction of the best dive instructor. If I decide on Davao, I'll dfinitely take you up on it. I'm also recovering from an injury; it occurred just after I decided to learn to dive. Unfortunately it has taken a lot longer than a month to recover, so the plan has been considerably delayed.

My friend is Filipino and he is a coworker, so I have to be somewhat discreet on what I ask.

[QUOTE=Hippie]I
I have a friend from Davao who thinks I would like it there, but he admits to being biased. He mentioned this after I told him I was considering Cebu. He can arrange for some of his family and friends to pick me up from the airport and show me around, which is a plus, although it might become a negative in the evenings.

What do you guys think? "

I've been to both places, Davao is about 80% the cost of Cebu (Cebu is about 80% of the cost of MNL), with many of the amenities westerners seem to like. I loved Cebu till I went to Davao. If I had to choose a place to live, Davao would win easily.

Happy Trip

The answer is in the question

Follow your bliss

Davao

Yes your posts are quite amusing. I particularly enjoyed my recent return from Asia with my wife ( details of said trip have been personally deemed inappropriate for this forum due to complete boredom ) only to perform my Dashing Don search to catch up on my buddies whereabouts and antics. I was shocked to see you were back in the Phillipines after only a few weeks hiatus and in search of A WIFE ? Maybe life is lonely in the NY mansion but do you really need a wife. I'm on my second and still not sure sure why I reenlisted for a second term of incarceration. I know your marriage groundrules differ significantly from mine and maybe you can still pull off the dual life of Husband and monger. If that is what you want I wish you luck.

One thing however, and let me be perfectly clear. You owe me a damn bachelor party. It is all I have to look forward too. it doesn't have to be Rio like mine, but you owe me one. Please...

As an aside, give Surfer a break. I don't want to see you banned for a silly war. I know if more people knew you personally they would detect much more of the lighthearted jovial nature behind your insult trading. Your sardonic wit probably escapes most that haven't met you.

Drop me a line or email when you return to the states, we'll trade stories. I'll tell you all about afternoon tea at the penninsula. God do I need a bachelor party.,

DS and GE
I will be arriving in Davao on August 11 and will be there to attend the Regional Tourism Conference and Trade Show at SM.I will be in until the 13th.See you guys Cheers CL

[QUOTE=Cebu Local]DS and GE
I will be arriving in Davao on August 11 and will be there to attend the Regional Tourism Conference and Trade Show at SM.I will be in until the 13th.See you guys Cheers CL[/QUOTE]
Good news CL. Sorry we didn't get together when I was in Manila but I will be back next week. See you soon in Davao.

:D

GE

CL: Bummer I won't be there yet, but you will get to see DS and his nephew in addition to GE. A true summit of the real experts on Philippine mongering. Surely the discussions will be more interesting than the dull goings on at any APEC or ASEAN conference LOL More fun than even your tourism conference perhaps, but how sweet it is to get a business trip to Davao. I suppose it might seem like hard work after your last several weeks cruising among the islands in style. You do live the life.

GE: Glad to hear you are recovering. Filipinas make such great nurses, especially when you dress them up in white lingerie with the red cross on their hat.

[QUOTE=Surfer]Filipinas make such great nurses, especially when you dress them up in white lingerie with the red cross on their hat.[/QUOTE]Some US hospital was doing mass interviews in my hotel for nursing talent. Some of these girls really know what it is like to care for patients. Case in point: [post=489087]my private Filipina nurse[/post]. Enjoy, AR+

[quote=surfer]cl: bummer i won't be there yet, but you will get to see ds and his nephew in addition to ge. a true summit of the real experts on philippine mongering. surely the discussions will be more interesting than the dull goings on at any apec or asean conference lol more fun than even your tourism conference perhaps, but how sweet it is to get a business trip to davao. i suppose it might seem like hard work after your last several weeks cruising among the islands in style. you do live the life.

ge: glad to hear you are recovering. filipinas make such great nurses, especially when you dress them up in white lingerie with the red cross on their hat.[/quote]
that is so correct,much more fun than listening to speeches.as a backgrounder i vanished since i was cruising the palawan region on a friends yacht for 2 weeks and there is no wifi or internet access in open ocean.i had my chinese fiance with me and she screwed me silly,since there was no other nighttime entairtainment available.3-4 rounds daily for 2 weeks will really drain you plus no shopping malls.cheers

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Good news CL. Sorry we didn't get together when I was in Manila but I will be back next week. See you soon in Davao.

:D

GE[/QUOTE]I have some more Portugese wines to try,Vihno Tinto or Port.See you soon

[QUOTE=Harvey WB][QUOTE=Hippie]I
I have a friend from Davao who thinks I would like it there, but he admits to being biased. He mentioned this after I told him I was considering Cebu. He can arrange for some of his family and friends to pick me up from the airport and show me around, which is a plus, although it might become a negative in the evenings.

What do you guys think? "

I've been to both places, Davao is about 80% the cost of Cebu (Cebu is about 80% of the cost of MNL), with many of the amenities westerners seem to like. I loved Cebu till I went to Davao. If I had to choose a place to live, Davao would win easily.

Happy Trip[/QUOTE]


I've lived in both places (Davao is my permanent home). Cebu is nice but Davao is a more scaled down version. As far as costs and expenses I don't know about 80% range but it is much cheaper. I dont monger in Davao but if I wanted to, plenty of available places and cheaper than Cebu, foreigners are still a novelty here among the lasses.

As far as the relatives of your friend meeting you and showing you around, consider this. They WILL take care of you, show you around etc, typical Filipino hospitality however, there may be a whole platoon of them and you will most likely have to foot the bill for food and drinks where ever you go. Also possible they have some un married honey lined up for you. I would try to go off on my own if I were you at least in the evenings and check out a few places mentioned here, better yet try to line up a few local gals on the internet get a few phone numbers to check out when you are here, these girls make the best "tour guides" with delighful possibilities at the end of the tour.

No matter what anyone tells you YOU ARE SAFE here, more so than Manila.

Regards

Spamhog

Spam Hog, pretty much everything you said was what I was already thinking and/or doing. I believe my friend's family is reasonably well off, so not too worried about them mooching off me. I don't mind buying a few rounds or meals in return for hospitality. I was actually offerred to stay at his his parents' house for free, and I suspect the accomodations would be plenty acceptable, but somehow I don't think his mom would appreciate me coming home with a different girl every night. I'll probably just meet them when I arrive and then go off on my own after that. I'm not at all worried from a safety standpoint. I used to live in Tijuana, and part of the time not in a particularly good neighborhood. I'm pretty good at avoiding trouble.

[QUOTE=Hippie]Spam Hog, pretty much everything you said was what I was already thinking and/or doing. I believe my friend's family is reasonably well off, so not too worried about them mooching off me. I don't mind buying a few rounds or meals in return for hospitality. I was actually offerred to stay at his his parents' house for free, and I suspect the accomodations would be plenty acceptable, but somehow I don't think his mom would appreciate me coming home with a different girl every night. I'll probably just meet them when I arrive and then go off on my own after that. I'm not at all worried from a safety standpoint. I used to live in Tijuana, and part of the time not in a particularly good neighborhood. I'm pretty good at avoiding trouble.[/QUOTE]


Sounds like a good plan maybe stay a night or two to get oriented, I would suggest taking this family out to "jacks ridge" really nice views and reasonable rates.Also be advised there are several "short time" hotels around Davao (Queensland) so if you did meet some honey (guarantee it!) and were staying at "Moms" you could always waltz her into queensland or one of the other places for like P250 or something for a three hour stay.

Good luck


Spamhog

Thanks for everyone's advice. Davao it is! Any suggestions on hotels? I have been taking too many trips and saving too little money lately, so I am trying too watch my budget for the first time ever in the PI. I want something comfortable and clean, and broadband would be a plus but not a must. I don't spend much time in my room so I am hopeful of keeping the price under 1500 pisos a night. A place like Central Park, Sunset Garden, or Royal Amsterdam in Angeles is fine. (If this has been discussed extensively before and I just did not read far enough back, I won't get offended at RTFF comments.)

By the way, if anyone is interested in meeting while I am there (Aug. 29 - Sep. 3) that would be great. Having cool guys to hang around with can make the difference between a good trip and a great one. As always, I'll be happy to buy the first beer or wine. PM me.

Pals,

Absolutely no fun at all burying your Father. It has been a truely horrible time. Checked E-mail several times to contact Clients/Business Associates. Had many offline messages from women. Too messed up in the head to even know who they were. Some from Davao and others from Manila and the rest were from China.

I took a moment to purchase my ticket. Nephew was already booked and I could not have him going here alone. I arrive the day after him via San Francisco. It will be after CebuLocal leaves. I do hope he intends to be in Cebu City the weekend of August 19-20. The Christening of my Son in Cebu will go on as originally scheduled. Too many things were already in motion. Please PM me if interested. It will be in Cebu City and then I depart immediately for Davao, my Nephew accompanying me.

I am in desperate need of something to change my mood, like lovely Filipinas and good times with good friends. The kid is carrying several bottles of the Champagne for the Saturday evening party, lightening my load a little.

Dragon Slayer

Having lost my Father a few years back,I know how that gut wrenching feeling feels first hand,My sincere condolences and wishing you strength during this trying time.Best regards

Despite the claim of my cyberstalker (named after a brown, wastewater like concotion that passes as a beverage in some parts), I can assure you the wine I bring will be worthy of any 4 star sommelier. This is especially true given the airline weight limitations (I bring LOTS of pasalubongs in addition to a surfboard) which will limit me to one bottle (so I need to make that one special).

D.S

Please know that time and surrounding yourself with good people will lighten the load you carry right now.Just hang in there kid and remember TIME heals all wounds.

GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS.

B.B...

Pals,

I want to thank all of you for your very kind words. This has been a very unpleasant time. Be happy when the dreams stop and I can sleep through the night.

I am going through with my Son, Daniel's Baptism as scheduled. Had to switch the dates as the Church has definite rules on Sunday Baptism (sort of a "free for all" with infants being baptized "turn key style" which I do not like). My nephew would have found it next to impossible to perform on the Irish babpipes amidst the frenzy of the moment. So the Baptism is now at 4:00PM Saturday, Aug 19 and the Champagne party is Sunday eveing beginning at 7:00PM.

I cannot personally invite all of you as there are just too many good friends here. So, if you think you will be in Cebu that weekend, PM me NOW. You do not have to attend both parties and you are required to bring nothing but your friendship and desire to have a great time. But I must hear from you NOW as I need to give the final count to the Restaurant for that Saturday and be certain I have enough food/drink/women(did not forget you guys) in attendance Sunday evening. Attire for both is casual elegance, which includes jeans and polo shirts. I will be the only man in a suit as it is my son. Feel free to take a break, go to the Wild Orchid Massage on the second floor, get fucked and then return to the rooftop to resume the party. I will make certain with the Hotel Manager that no one is overcharged for "extra service" that evening.

Daniel's mother has invited 25 guests and I believe at least 15 are young women around her age (29) from the Hospital where she works. My Nephew will be there to perform on the bagpipes, sing a few irish melodies (don't laugh, the kid can really sing), drink with you guys and hit the Clubs afterwards. We will leave for Davao the following morning to begin our usual life in pursuit of the beautiful, awesome, but not elusive Davao Pussy.

You can find the two of us nightly at Ground Zero during the week of Aug 21-25. I hope to be my usual self by then and into getting laid on a regular, consistent basis.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

This is a photo of one of the women I had who I consider in possession of perfect tits. I mentioned her here before. She IM'd me a couple days ago when I was working online and sent me this recent photo of her. I was fucking her in May 2005. Lost touch with her but hope to resume that position now. THose tits are real. I examined them many times and had my cock burid between them on many an occasion.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer. Beautiful set of Breasts. Damn. Can't wait to see more of this one. Good on ya man.

In Davao for now for the next week. Just checked into the Marco Polo, staring down at the Ateneo College campus and all the white-clad coeds like Dr. Evil wondering who I might lure up here. Meanwhile one of my girls from last year will be along shortly. Will meet some of the usual Davao suspects later...

Arriving Friday Morning for a Tourism Conference and will be in town till Sunday.Mahku,GE see you guys cheers

i was watching the local news this evening which my lady deigns to translate from time to time, and i noticed footage on a police raid of hot legs i which was either busted for (1) **** girls and/or (2) prostitution. by the time i noticed the story it was almost over, and i couldn't tell if the place has been closed or merely fined. the last time this happened the club was closed for about four weeks until everything was sorted out. fortunately, hot legs 2, which is far nicer than 1 remains open for business so the hooker bar scene here in davao should not suffer much.

:d

ge

Even having my honey call Apo View directly (she speaks fluent Bisaya), best rate could get was 2,900 (almost $60)-website says 4,400. Maybe that includes taxes and MP rate doesn't, but for an extra $20 Marco Polo seems to be worth the extra dosh. Insular Hotel is $62.

Suggestions from the experts? I assume MP is just as guest friendly as Apo View (never had so much as an ID check despite the LONGISH walk of shame).

GE & DS: Worried about the wine after the new security ban on ANY liquids in the carry on as my pasalubong weigh almost 50lbs (weight limit per bag)!

Yes, Marco Polo is guest friendly. Never felt much shame in the walk.

GoodEnough,

Hot Legs I should have been raided long ago for ripping off western men. I still cannot forget the night two years ago to this day that you and the Slayer made seige on this establishment of questionable repute for the sole purpose of taking two lovely, young women out for an evening of wine, fun and serious fucking. When it came down to the "departure time" and the first one stated that she would go for two hours and wanted P3000 I was amazed. Then, the lovel halfwit, Kristen, whom I had been lavishing ladies drinks on for the last six omnths during my too frequent visits informed me, " I need P3000 and I only lke two hours also". My reply was, "you need to quit taking those drugs. They are causing you to lose your mind".

This place is a fucking dive if ever I saw one. They must have spent every bit of $ 200 remodeling what had been a small retail store. I doubt if any of those women ever saw P3000. But no reason to stop them from trying to ripoff two americans, who everyone knows are total dumbshits. A few nights later I dropped by for what was to be my last ever visit to this dump.

Only thing it can claim is that it is a little bit better (not much) than Galeras, another ripoff place where the only foreigners I ever saw there were with me.
The best way to deal with these places is to avoid them. Whic is what I hve done for two years now.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

We need more photos of gorgeous women on this site. This is another beautiful lady on my "short list" of women with perfect tits. She is from China and was an awesome fuck. You can even see your Slayer going to work on those tits in the one photo. You would never guess her profession so I will not bother to inform you. Only have a bunch of comments about me being a fucking liar like the now banished guy used to say in all too numerous PM's to me.

This belongs on the So China Board but fuck it. YOu guys deserve to see this.

Dragon Slayer

Slayer:

I do remember the night in question very well. It's also the last time that I was there, though I do miss the torn carpet, the cigarette butts on the tatty rug and the warm San Mig beer. What I cannot understand though is that Hot Legs II (with presumably the same owners) is reasonably clean and the girls are much, much nicer. Then too, the girls at HL II get naked in about 15 seconds and I don't think the HL 1 girls stip anymore.

At least we left a collective PhP6,000 richer than we would have if we had taken them up on their offers.

It's time for the news in 10 minutes, so I'll report back if there's any further word on what happened.

See you very soon.

:D

GE

Pals,

A couple weeks ago I accidentally stumbled onto the Peru Board. Never been there but I had a friend, Yale Univ Grad from Mexico City, who worked for one of the Airlines. He would fly free to central and latin america on a regular basis. Claimed Peru was most dangerous place he had ever been. In any event, it appears that many Posts there would fit in nicely on the "Philippine Fight Club" Board. I did spend a week once in Caracas, Venezuela but felt no desire ever to return. Panama City, Panama was the only place in latin america I really enjoyed.

Back to the business of Davao. Two weeks prior I posted photos here (as always). One was of a lady I called Miss Monroe. GE really liked her photo. Last night while working, she treated me to a cam view of her lovely tits. I do intend to see her this Trip. I need to hang onto those tits. I spoke often here of Eve, a 20 y/o in d/t Davao, who constantly sent me IM's pertaining to her "problem". Never found out what the fuck her problem was; only that a few thousand pesos could cure it. I could not help but notice that she is far too frequently online with webcam. Must have a problem that needs constant funding. I finally deleted her as there are just too many women in Davao to waste time with a cyber pro.

Finallly took time to contact various ladies I know here. Rhea, the 22 y/o with the "rack of gibralta" told me she would meet me at my Hotel when I arrive. I think the Kid and I will start out at Marco Polo and move our action to "headquarters" after a couple days. I want to check out the Eagles Nest Bar on the Ground Floor during the early evening. I once saw two very hot ladies enter at 5:00P on a Friday just as I was leaving with my daughter and her mother.

I like to plan out my Trips as I found out years ago that it makes for a much better time. I make certain I have phone numbers of many ladies in each city and their e-mail addresses. I can always pass up meeting one but hate not being certain of getting fucked 3-4 times a day (fucked literally that is, not figuratively). I have always managed some free time to try my luck at meeting ladies and I plan to spend time at Ground Zero doing this. GE will have to accompany us for consulting purposes. It will be the three mongering musketeers in Davao.

Dragon Slayer

DS: As somewhat of a Latin expert I can tell you Panama is the pits compared to Colombia (next door). Ditto Peru. Interesting opinion on Peru being dangerous. My first trip there was in 89 at the height of the Shining Path's guerilla war. Felt a bit sketchy, but still safer than the inner city of most US metroplises. Was there last year and it seemed finme. Has your friend been to Rio or Sao Paolo? El Salvador? Hell much of Mexico seems more dangerous than Peru IMHO.

"danger" is so relative too. Many believe Mindanao is "too dangerous" yet think nothing of the risks in Mamila (IMHO, Manila is WAY more dangerous than the parts of Mindanao I'ver seen-of course I have not gone to trouble spots like Malaybalay, Marawi etc).

Suerte a los tres amigos cabrones (Good luck to the three mongering friends)

Pals,

This belongs in Filipinas, Opinions and Advice & China Board, same Topic. But you look here for my thoughts on whatever so I will post it here.

I am wondering if Asian women possess a "hit him when he is down" attitude. The last three weeks have not been my best and I must admit I took far more than my share of abuse from several ladies. I mean my Father died and several took this as a good time to be cruel. Not rude or impolite but actually cruel.

My little Jing in So China whom I spent far too much time fucking and treating like a princess just sent a message "condolences". Yes she can barely speak 1st grade english but she never had trouble getting into long discussions with me, especially about fucking, using translation software on the net. But when I called her on my return home, she had her 6 y/o nephew answer and they had a great laugh at my expense. Then a day later on the phone she abrutly told me she wanted nothing to do with me now. Fucking small titted C___.

Finally, My Annie, whom I first met in Davao in 2003 and who took off to SIngapore in May 2004 (told meshe was leaving the night before her AM departure back then) told me Thursday night she did NOT wish to hear from me. Told me she was angry with me (??) and was going to marry someone else this year. My reply started very amicably with a polite "Fuck you B___. You were the one to fly off to Singapore w/o even telling me. Marry some small dick in Singapore or Boise Idaho or whatever place the little cocksucker lives".

These are two examples of six total. There was nothing that has transpired in the last several weeks to warrant this. Only that I was not online or calling anyone as I was either preparing to leave for NYC at the last minute, travelling across the USA, assisting with the funeral preparations and greeting people I either did not know (or ever want to know) or had not seen in 20 years. Not to mention dealing with my two older, hippo sized, unemployed and psychotic sisters. When I had time I did e-mail them and I did explain why I could not contact each lady. The response in each case was not supportive, unless you can call Annie's Goodbye & Wedding announcement and Jing's Insults & Goodbye support.

In the end, after my outburst on the web, Annie tried to redress her comments and stated that wedding plans were not certain and that I was still "in consideration" for this "position". I told her to stay in fucking Singapore. Life as virtually a prisoner in some old fucks home suits her quite well as she has just demonstrated. A little cocksucker and his trailer home in Boise or keyhole, Indiana sounds good also.

I am serious when I state no one was in any way sympathetic except my Beijing Doll in the UK. My Son's mother must not have been listening to a fucking thing I said as the day of the Funeral she inquired into my Father's health. I had told the halfwit twice before that he died. I think there was more concern from the owners of Casa Leticia and Cafe Adriatico upon hearing why I must cancel hotel reservations for myself and my nephew and move the date of the Reception. I never expected such treatment from women who claimed to love me, want to marry me and would care for me forever. What a load of nonsense!

I will post nude photos here of Annie, Jing, Jade, and the rest of these _____. As I explained to a lovely, Japanese lady friend here in my city, if anything my father's death will change things for me dramatically in the near future. It has no negative impact on my life other than losing him has devastated me emotionally. But I am still here, more or less the same man, still have my work and my home and my life.

TO get the ball rolling, here is a photo of one of the assholes who took this event as an opportunity to fuck me over "big time". She is a grade school teacher in China. Annie will be next. I might even break my rule on fuck shots and blowjob shots for this.

Dragon Slayer

DS
The cruelty of these women to hit you when you are down is truelly sad.But Arent you glad that you did not marry or live with any of these women.Again my sincere condolences for the tragic event and the behavior of these women.CL
GE and Co
It was great to see you again however briefly.I will defenitely follow your advice regarding Marco Polo ,I dont want to stay in a Tourist Inn in Ecoland again ever.See you in Cebu and Manila Cheers

I shall be on 14th night in davao, where can I find cheap freelancers ; I am rather shy to ask and dont want to pay more than in Thailand. Any cheap but clean GF hotel or guesthouse near action?

I have the whole 15 to visit, where can I go?

Here in Cagayan, I went in strip tease club where I was the only customer(no foreigner here), but they asked first 3000 for lady, I refused to negociate and went out, after, a middle aged lady in the street asked 1500 ST> I am amazed because in Cebu, most of the cheapest ladies came from cagayan.

Small Buterfly,


Senior member after 26 posts? I guess it is not much to be a senior member here, but not my concern.

Your questions: You have NOT been reading Posts or you would NOT have to ask this. Anyway by Ground Zero freelancers are everywhere from 10:00PM to 03:00AM, especially on weekends. Same goes for Rizal Street. Pay NO MORE than P600. I never paid more and I always fucked a gorgeous, young co-ed semi-pro.

All Hotels in Davao are girl friendly. End of Story. Do not be shy. Just approach women and start talking. Hang out at Ground Zero from 7:00PM and offer to buy regular girls beers. It will cost you P26/beer or 50 cents US.
The semi pros will gather here after 9:00PM and the hard core pros work the strets from 19:00PM on to 04:00AM. Around 10:00PM walk down Illustre St from GZ past O'Flanagan's towards SM Mall. At the corner by Rose Pharmay you can find pros hanging out at night.

Read the Posts here and please do NOT ask what and where the fuck is Ground Zero. Or O'Flanagan's or Ilustre St.

Have fun and Good Luck.

Dragon Slayer

[QUOTE=Joking]In over 30yrs of travelling to the Philippines and must be close to a thousand pay for play ladies , its hard for me to think of any who treated me badly. There have been some of course , but so few in 30yrs and more than one hundred trips , that its hard for me to remember them. I have found the Filipinas treat you well if you treat them well. Thats why I keep coming back for more. The problem for some is , we only get out of life what we put into it. There will always be exceptions , but generally Filipinas are really nice girls. Folks who have trouble with them most probably have trouble with people in general.[/QUOTE]
I think you're confusing P4P relationships, which are essentially commercial, with more lasting relationships which are at least partially emotional. A p4p type who treats her customers badly risks economic consequences, so why would she treat you badly, and who would really care even if she did. She's certainly easy to replace. It's an entirely different story however when someone who says she actually cares about you treats you callously.

GoodENough,
THanks. Someone needs to explain life to this guy. Talk about a serial antagonist. I have no problem with guys posting here who never go here, EXCEPT when they feel the need to fuck with me.

I leave for the Phils in 36 hours and I am still finalizing plans for my Son's Reception. No time to waste on some guy who's sole intent is to fuck with me on this Board. I was disgusted with what transpired with my Annie from Davao and Jing in China during the period of my Father's passing. I posted here to air my anger, NOT to have some jerk make comments solely to upset me.

Dragon SLayer

DS, GE, etc..

Sorry, but generalizing about women is wrong. Every woman / person is differnt.

The woman who was most evil to me was my ex. I suppose I deserved it a bit, but when whe was sick or down I tried to be a shoulder to lean on. I found that when I was down or sick it was a great big signal for OPEN SEASON on X Man.

Joking actually may have the truth here. If you spend only a night with a working girl, you'll usually get SERVICE. Easy to get rid of her if you aren't satisfied.

Spend more time with a woman and you can find out how loving she can be, or how hating...or both.

Let's face it, how many of us have felt our most instense love AND anger/saddness with a woman who was ...a lover.

Well?

X Man

X you are belaboring the obvious. Of course every person is different. So what? We all generalize all of the time about people: the difference between Filipinas and American women being but one of thousands of examples. Generalizations also hold kernels of truth which is why we make them. Besides, DS was not discoursing about any particular class of women. He was venting his anger about specific women. Of course we experience more intense feelings for women who are lovers. It would be strange if we did not.

GE

Going back to my post, it seems that we come to the same conclusion.

Nevertheless, I thought labeling "Joking" a "serial antagonist" was ABSURD, but maybe you didn't read that post. I don't know the history of DS and J, but I don't see how the J post merited name calling.

As for my comments about "generalizing", you said, "DS was not discoursing about any particular class of women". I suppose I'm really absurd to think so - after all, he wrote, "I am wondering if Asian women possess a "hit him when he is down" attitude." I'll be honest, I've felt the same thing on occasion. But, to blame your partner's nationality or culture for conflict is a dead end.

Despite the absurdity, I'll stick to my original point:
DS and GE and anyone else (despite the kernals of truth) are wrong to generalize about 1) Asian women 2) p4p women vs. emotionaly attached women.

X

I agree with the Dragon, 26 posts is very few , the rule should be changed. But fake posts should be banned, some (not the Dragon chat and never inform).
In my short 3 years mongers experience, I visited Madagascar, Senegal,Morroco, Dominican republic, Thailand, Cambodia, Philipinnes.
I always reported what I learned about sex life abroad without trying to post to increase my score (I cant do more as I am working).
I also want to ask anglo saxon members to be tolerant towards those whose english is not the native language. Its more difficult for as to read 20 pages or more to find an information...
Anyway, thanks to the Dragon who did not reply but RTFF.
His help allowed me to find a lady for 500 in the street outside Apo view (I tried to find Ground 0 over the 24 hours shop at the corner, but it seemed closed).

Pals,

Please DO read Posts back here. You will find almost all questions answered this way. Ground Zero is the convenience store at the corner of J Camus & Ilustre Sts. I named it this 3 years ago due to its ideal location in the center of the nightlife of Davao AND due to how it starts at 7:00PM with lovely nurses, coeds, and other regular girls sitting here. Progresses on to have semi-pro and sleazier, regular ladies from 9:00PM onward and the Pros start dropping by after 10:00PM.

This place closes at 02:30AM outside, at least. They have live music outside and servers from 7:00PM when the night begins here in d/t Davao. It is dead usually during the daytime but I ate at the outdoor tables once with Annie a couple years ago and again last summer around noon with the Lady Politician here I was seeing. With O'Flanagan's not opening until 3:00PM in Maurice's abscene this is one place to eat d/t during the daytime. Henny's two restaurants and Claude's are other choices over on Rizal Street,as is Sturo on J Camus.

Davao is primarily a nightlife city for chasing pussy. I have a lady with me during the day, hit one of the massage parlors, such as in Apo View Hotel or meet friends or a woman for lunch. I am not a big beach person but it is nearby and definitely a good place to go during the day.

I posted the other day on my thoughts concerning recent events with a couple chinese ladies and filipinas I have been involved with over the last three years in Davao and southern china. I was NOT generalizing. My comment was "I wonder if" NOT "this is how it is". The same people here consistently comment negatively when I make anything but a general report. I was NOT talking about my daughter's mother in Leyte, my son's mother in Cebu ( she just has trouble understanding english over the phone) or many other women I know here.

Plain and simple I was very surprised that these women, even after learning the circumstances that had just taken place in my life, felt the need to attempt, at least, to devastate me further.Why this, like the "Nightmare on Rizal Street" post would generate comment from men on this Board amazes me.

In an event, I leave in 9 hours and I need to pack. I am happy to hear the one guy followed my suggestion and scored some awesome pussy on the Streets of d/t Davao. I will be there soon.

I look forward to seeing many of you here next week or perhaps, Sunday evening on the rooftop of my Hotel in Cebu for Daniel's Champagne Party. Many of you have confirmed you will attend. PM me if you want to also join in and meet my baby son.

Dragon Slayer

backups, backups, always have backups. i always tell myself this and anyone who will listen. my problem on this trip is that i'm going to about a dozen countries over 6 months, with multiple stops in each place. so chatting up, getting to know and arranging to meet girls in each place is a massive job that's spreading me pretty thin. so even though i've been to davao a lot and know several women there, things didn't go as smoothly as i hoped. i really need to consider hiring a long, leggy secretary to help me with the prep work for all these places.

i arrived here a week ago, had a nice dinner with ge and his lady. a girl that i knew (in all senses) last year was along as well as a friend of hers. so far so good...

snags: as i said this first girl had been dependable to get physical before and i thought she was a sure thing again. but apparently a recent breakup with a boyfriend was making her a headcase. so she played the avoidance game for several days. that first night i took her and her friend to blue room but hints to take her and/or her friend back to my room fell flat. the next two days were more of the same. another girl who had made it sound like she was a sure thing backed out of meeting me at the last minute. then i met a third girl last year. she was a shy, shrinking violet then. but in her recent chats she had been more confident and flirty. in person she was back to the shy thing, and was deathly afraid to meet other foreigners at de bonte koe.

so it was a bad start. but things got better after this. i dug deeper into the list of backups but meeting these took time to set up since, thinking i wouldn't need them, i hadn't told them i was in town. meanwhile a kind forum member stepped in and offered me a contact which rejuvenated the week. she was a true gfe, temporarily demure but a wildcat in bed when things got going. then the newer backups started kicking in and things were back on track. one showed up in one of those white uniforms, which is a true delight to a perv like me. to top things off the very first girl of the week got over her breakup and was ready for the rebound. the last 3 days i was back to juggling more than i could handle, which is how things should be in davao. the moral of the story is that you can never have too many girls up your sleeve in each town. now a little about some of our favorite spots around town:

o'flanagan's: the situation here has been reported already, but maurice is indeed out of the country until at least october. according to the waitresses there (the same ones as before, at least that didn't change) the owner of the building is looking for buyers. so our favorite davao irish bar may soon be history.

de bonte koe: still a great place to meet friends, expats and take a regular girl out for a dinner date. the owner is a great friend to have in town and a good contact about scuba diving. also, he has taken over the place that used to be red bar opposite dbk, and now serves a generally spanish menu.

someplace else: this is in the same place as de bonte koe. there are a number of cute waitresses here. the owner seems to know how to pick 'em. it seems he has to replace them often as they are picked up and whisked off by horny expats. the only thing is i think some of these girls have jealous filipino boyfriends that are on the scene drinking red horse beer. one night i was here the girls were looking afraid and not making eye contact because of this.

liquid in the apo view: gone and replaced by a different setup. the wall has been knocked out and the waterfall window is gone. now it's more like a kind of lounge/piano bar. it's nice enough but i liked things before. you may be able to pick someone up her but it was definitely a better mongering situation under the old setup.

blue room: also in the apo view but to the right of the main entrance. they seem to play mostly jazz here. it's a mostly groups at tables situation. the one night i was here with some girls i didn't see anything to hit on and i haven't heard about anything from other reports here either.

venue (main disco): even on a saturday night the crowd here was sparse and the upstairs closed off. i came back with a girl on monday night and it was almost completely empty but there were a couple of all-woman tables.

venue (halo disco): got here too late on saturday night as it was starting to close. i brought a girl here on monday night and it was empty but that suited my purpose fine as that meant there were dark corners to do dirty dancing with my girl. it seemed to help loosen her up for later bedroom antics. halo seems to have hired a few hottie girls to gyrate in the window and attract customers. it's not clear if these girls are tied to the bar or are free to be chatted up and/or taken out. further investigation is necessary.

venue (others): the open area here is full of outdoor seating from several restaurants and bistros. i didn't see anything this week but i'm sure it's a ymmv kind of place. bar 1 is said to often attract the good-looking regular girls, but i didn't see anything on the late saturday night that i looked.

auto shop: near victoria plaza and gaisano malls. it's a mostly open air collection of bars, barbecues, cafes and an enclosed disco or two. i was here last year and it seemed to be a younger crowd. this time it seemed to be more like college age or maybe the same kids are just a year older now? but i will have to say that the saturday night here was stocked with hot hot girls dressed up to be even hotter. a friend introduced me to one of them. i hope other girls here are similarly inclined for action as she is.

rizal promenade, including bar 183: i was here 3 times and the male-female ratio was always bad to worse. the thing is the outdoor part of this place is a great mongering setup. it's narrow with one beer bar and a few tables. you can make eye contact with any girls sitting at the tables or the bar and then chat them up. in the most interior part there's a live band with several rows of seating. off to the side there are several small bars and dancing places. the biggest of these is bar 183. but all of these places will be playing music at full volume. hard to do much but wink and make lewd gestures. i also looked into swig but never saw a reason to go in there.

eagle bar in marco polo hotel: i was staying in the hotel (guest friendly) so i always peeked in here when coming or going. 2 out of the 7 nights i saw decent looking female customers. once a group of 5 lovelies was just finishing up and leaving and the other time i had another girl to meet and couldn't stay. if you're staying here it's worth a look but i wouldn't make any special trips here.

corner convenience store, aka ground zero: took two looks here, once in about 8 pm and another time around midnight. the 'earlier is better' idea held true here. the 8 pm sample was better and almost bordering on something i would be interested in bothering with. almost.

i tried going to hotlegs 2 but it was already closed. some of the girls were still sitting around outside, none of them better than about a 5. hopefully that was because the better girls were barfined or something.

i just arrived in zamboanga. i will be here (first time visit) for five days and then back in davao next monday.

Are any of you familiar with Regency Inn on Villa Abrille Street? Any reason NOT to stay there? I have never seen a Philippine hotel that was not guest friendly, but I am sure some must exist.

Anyone in addition to GE who is interested in meeting when I am there in two weeks for my first Davao trip?

Terrific report that brings a touch of sadness: Can't believe they got rid of the Liquid waterfall. Proof that progress is not always positive.

The cyber GF and her family are coming to Apo View to meet me, but I will have a couple nights before they arrive and am thinking that Marco Polo at $75 aint bad (she got a locals rate at Apo View of 2900, 3100 with 2 double beds but their website says 4000). Curious what rate you guys can get at both Apo View and Marco Polo.

Just spoke to the Slayer who arrived in the PI last night. He asked me to tell you guys that anyone who wants to contact him about the events tomorrow and Sunday should send him a PM and he'll check the board later. He also said that he traveled with ten bottles of champagne, 8 pounds of chocolat and assorted other goodies and did not get charged anything for overweight luggage. The last thing he told me during our conversation was that his mood improved about 1000 percent as soon as the wheels touched down in the Philippines. Of course, it was no doubt helped by arriving at his room to find it already well-stocked with a young, beautiful woman.

Looking forward to Cebu!

:D

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Just spoke to the Slayer who arrived in the PI last night. He asked me to tell you guys that anyone who wants to contact him about the events tomorrow and Sunday should send him a PM and he'll check the board later. He also said that he traveled with ten bottles of champagne, 8 pounds of chocolat and assorted other goodies and did not get charged anything for overweight luggage. The last thing he told me during our conversation was that his mood improved about 1000 percent as soon as the wheels touched down in the Philippines. Of course, it was no doubt helped by arriving at his room to find it already well-stocked with a young, beautiful woman.

Looking forward to Cebu!

:D

GE[/QUOTE]We all should have a good time,Should I bring Vihno Verde?????I confirmed attendance by SMS to DS.Cheers

I've posted this elsewhere, but thought that guys here might be interested as well.

I've gotten a few posts recently from guys looking to come to Davao for a few weeks or a few months, and asking about the availability of furnished apartments for rent here. There are several available, and I certainly don't know them all. The one I would recommend is called Red Knight Garden, which is in Guadeloupe Village on Lanang Road. The phone number there is: +63-82-233-0618 and the owner's name is Ray, who is an English guy married to a Filipina. I think (but I'm not sure) that one bedroom apartments rent for about $600 a month.

:D

GE

[QUOTE=Surfer]Terrific report that brings a touch of sadness: Can't believe they got rid of the Liquid waterfall. Proof that progress is not always positive.

The cyber GF and her family are coming to Apo View to meet me, but I will have a couple nights before they arrive and am thinking that Marco Polo at $75 aint bad (she got a locals rate at Apo View of 2900, 3100 with 2 double beds but their website says 4000). Curious what rate you guys can get at both Apo View and Marco Polo.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Surfer. Actually I think as recently as last year I was getting the Apo View for around 2000, without any local going to bat for me. And there may still be a Cebu Pacific discount that knocks it down even more. For Marco Polo 60 to 80 bucks is probably about normal unless you can book well in advance.

Also, another good place I forgot to mention is a foodcourt in the row of shops across from the Ateneo entrance. It's the place that has Clickerz internet cafe. At lunchtime it's full of Ateneo girls in their white outfits.

I was paying P995 and then P1,100, I think, on Cebu Pacific Summit Club (last visit 2003). 2nd visit, in 2001, they "kicked me out" after 4 days (refused to honor CP Summit Club after the 4th day) due to a conference, but they told me this on check in. I consider it a deal at P1,100 to P1,500 maybe, but not any higher.

GE, thanks for the apt rental info. How I wish I had a long enough vacation to consider an apartment! Maybe some day. The place you suggested has a web site:

[url]http://mozcom.com/~ray-phil/red.htm[/url]

Also, there has been talk about Apo View. I stayed there for just over 2000.

The pool looks nice, but it's hard to do laps because one end is extremely shallow. Well, if you're taking small kids to Davao, this might be a good thing.

Also, when I was there, they had an electrical fire in the ceiling of the lobby. No one was hurt, but things could have been really nasty if the fire had started somewhere out of view. I'm not a religious man, but I went to church the next day!

Some G-rated pictures attached.

X

As regular readers of this thread will know, the Dragon Slayer hosted two parties over the week end to celebrate the baptism of his son. Although the parties were held in Cebu, most of the expats who came live in Davao and Davao is where I met the Slayer, so it seems most appropriate to thank him here.

As always, the DS brought his own champagnes, and they were superb. It takes a hell of a commitment to fine wines to drag a case of champagne across the Pacific, but that's what he did and it was much appreciated, at least by the expats who drank most of it. On Saturday night we enjoyed a fine French red, and again, the expats drank about 80% of the wine, though we constituted less than 50% of those attending.

To Spam Hog, Cooler Brew, Cebu Local and the other guys who were there, it was great seeing you all again. To the Slayer, thanks for two memorable evenings of good food, great wine and excellent company.

:D

GE

Glad you guys had a good party. What was the brand?
x

Thank you for a great celebration Fine Wine and Champagne .GE nice to meet you and your lady,Ditto for Mr and Mrs Spamhog,Best wishes

For about 36 hours after I got back from Zamboanga I never left the area of the Marco Polo. Girls were coming around afternoon and evening. One of the girls who stood me up last week came by for a great round of makeup sex. Also another one that I've been working on for a while finally gave it up. I was so worn out that I couldn't do anything with one girl that came by later at night but just lay together and watch TV. I may need to consider getting chemical help.

Last night I finally got out. After an all afternoon session with one girl I brought her to Henny's for dinner then sent her home. I wandered around town a bit and ended up at Hot Legs 2. I'm not so sure that the positive press this place has gotten is deserved. There was heavy pressure to buy lady drinks for girls that I wouldn't give a second look. Mamasan said the barfine is 3500. I didn't bother to talk about it further. I have to say there are several lookers here. So if they can get over their tendency to give us the 'foreigner treatment' this could be a decent place to go. But for now it's like all the other bars of this type that I've been to and I'll be giving it a miss.

I finally staggered into Blue Room at Apo View. Before I didn't consider this as a good bet for picking up a girl but on this night I was very wrong. There was a stunner there that I couldn't get my eyes off of. She was with a work group and I think her boss had designs on her. I happened to be sitting on the way to the ladies room and this girl have her number to me on the way to do her business. We spent the next hour doing furious texting while this boss man was glaring at me. Looks like I'll be meeting her later...I've put off my trip to Cagayan and we'll see how things go.

I'm in Tacloban now. I had planned to go to Cagayan next but I couldn't face the 7 hour bus ride. I'll go there next connecting through either Cebu or Manila.

Anyway, my last several days in Davao were divided between 4 different girls that I either met on the internet, were introduced to me, or whom I just met out on the town. Most nights I would start out in the Eagle Bar at Marco Polo, waiting for a girl to show up. Then we would head upstairs for a session. Then out to dinner somewhere like De Bonte Koe or Tsuru. Then out dancing at the Venue or Bar 183. Then back to the room for late night action.

The one that I met in Blue Room was a real find. Even though I found out that she has a kid her slim, 5 foot 6 frame doesn't show it at all. She used to work in Japan so we often communicated in Japanese better than English. I caught her at a good time, since she's now started work at a KTV near Victoria Plaza and she'll be less available. After a couple of days together she did start asking for money, so I starting distancing myself. In fact all the contacts sort of ended up like that. Either they were getting too clingy, too gold digging, or getting busy with exams or something like that. Since I won't be back in Davao for about a year I'll have plenty of time to build up contacts again. As if to illustrate that I met one of last year's girls while I was at the Venue with the Blue Room girl. She was with her fiance and heading off to the States soon. So each trip is part of a cycle. You prepare in advance, reap the benefits while you're there, then the girls and you move on to other things and you start preparing for future visits. The cycle of mongering in Davao and elsewhere...

Pals,

The Champagne was Taittinger, family owned in Champagne Region of France. I did start first with a magnificent J Schramm '99 as guys from this Board had arrived agead of the Filipinos at the Pres Suite on rooftop of Crowne Regency. So, we went with the vintage brand and then on to the Taittinger for the balance of the night.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

I dropped by Ground Zero last evening. First time there alone in a very long time. Being Sunday there were no nurses or co-eds. It was a nice evening and the music was fine. So I drank a few beers and relaxed. JP has replaced Gino as waiter for the tables. I might have tipped him 30 pesos.

I just came from Monday lunch with Henny at De Bonte Koe. We chatted about various and sundry. I am at Marco Polo and mostly resting. Have not seen GE since my Saturday night arrival. We have dinner plans for tonight though.

Cristina texted me early Sunday morning. She is a 26 y/o lady I know here. She came by late morning, promptly fucked/sucked me, had lunch with me in room, fucked and sucked me again and departed. Asked for 50 pese cab fare, and, being the big tipper, I gave her 100. Did not see her again as my plans are sketchy. Jen is due here this evening to keep me company for the next few days. See how it goes.

Have to return to Cebu soon as my son's mother and I were invited to a private party at Cafe Adriatico and the Director/CEO of the Hospital where Daniel's mother is on Staff, has invited me to a private lunch there. She is a sweet, elderly lady who was at the rooftop party last week.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

Some brief comments before I logoff. I have had a good trip without a lot of the wild nights I usually have. Spent many nights with my son. Was amazed to see him looking at me thorugh big, "blue eyes". Could not believe it. His mother replied,"I told you he has your eyes". Sadly he looks nothing at all like her or a filipino. Saw my two little girls fof two nights. WOuld have been longer but my one baby's mother started getting on my case big time for "sins" I committed anywhere from six months ago (in Davao w Ge of course) to ten years prior. When she awoke my little girl, causing her to start crying, I knew it was time to depart. I will see them again later. She has apologized for her outbursts.

I DO enjoy the Posts on the Fight Club Board. July and early August were miserable for me. Those Posts gave me a great deal of levity. I laugh outloud when reading them. Here at Marco Polo I drew some surprised glances from the Business Centre Staff while I was reading them. The photos are equally hilarious.

Some young Davao witch named Eden tried to fuck me over figuratively last Saturday night, shortly after my arrival here in Davao. She came in second.

More later.

Dragon Slayer

GE, can I please have the diving trainng contact info. Please send me pm or my yahoo.

Oh, DS, PLease give us the contact info of this evel Eden. I'm always interested in meeting bad girls.

Speaking of bad girls, my old friend Rby from Davao has suddenly contacted me. She was extremely great fun, GFE, sex in first two hours (after I met the entire extended family), CHerry blossom girl. She helped me test the beds at Casa Leticia, which is the best hotel in Davoa IF YOU DON'T NEED A POOL.

I've posted about her and even posted some pics here at DV thread, but never expected to hear from her again...the cute, sweet, little btch. After our romantic four days, i got the most ridiculous emails.... "I'm sick, electric bill unpaid, no food, I'm pregnant..." ...this girl was reading from the scammer guidebook and apparently wasn't a quick learner.

Here we are, a year later and she happily uploaded some bikini pictures and I had goose bumps. Hot. Of course none of the pics included the hot black bikini that I bought for her, (and shared with the Davao elite), but who am I to complain.

I'll string her along for a while...see what happens... at least we both understand each other now....I wonder if she sitll has to go home by 10pm...

X

DS, your post was kind of confusing since we don't know your PERSONAL details.

But, I wouild love to hear more about EDEN. Whats her problem, and how did you solve it?

And I'm sure the members here would love to hear more about ...

how you attracted...
how you seduced...
how she responded...
how you seperated..

....and any ugly (or beautiful) details in between.

X

Hi.

I have read my conuntry's department of state believe Mindanao is too dangerous to travel to. What do all of you who has been to Mindanao lately think about the risk?

K

[QUOTE=Klon15]Hi.

I have read my conuntry's department of state believe Mindanao is too dangerous to travel to. What do all of you who has been to Mindanao lately think about the risk?

K[/QUOTE]


Klon:

I suppose Im qualified to respond to this (it is a recurring question) since most Embassies have declared Mindanao "Unsafe" etc. I lived in Davao for several years, traveled about alone and in the company of wife, friends, strange women and local Pinoy's. I've traveled by bus, by motor cycle and driving around my piece of crap truck. Drove it to General Santos a few times, Digos, Kidpawan, tagum all within about a fifty mile radius of Davao.
Also went by Bus regualrly from Davao to Cagayan de Oro, Surigao etc.

I have NEVER had ANYONE be they Muslim, Lumad (native) or NPA "soldier"
(Met a few of them!) bother me. They might say "Hi" or ask you a few curious questions but thats it.

So once again for the record as so many of the fellows on this board who have had the pleasure of mongering in Davao will tell you.

You are safer in Davao and it's immediate environs more so than your average US city. Personally, I think that goes for most of the Philippines but Davao has a tough no nonsense Mayor who EVERYONE is scared shitless of. He says a word and you die, no matter if you are an MILF chieftan, a racketeer, a street criminal or commander of the local NPA militia. Hizzoner has said that foreigners are under his special protection,(with the stipulation all must behave) woe be unto he who crosses that line.

I would not tempt fate and wander into MILF held areas of ARMM (Atonymous region of Muslim Mindanao) that is the extreme western half or the Sulu sea island chain. But in most major cities you are reasonably safe.


Enjoy your trip, relax and get a personal body guard to tuck you in at night, one named Rosa or Gemma, Evelyn, Diane etc. etc.

Spamhog

Pals,

You believe what State Departments Post and remember the choice Louisiana swamp land and fine desert property outside Death Valley I am looking to move.

Davao is a great city. I have made over 50 separate trips here in the last tne years. No trouble here other than the time in Aug '04 when I got drugged at Ralph's at Venue by the witch Chin who worked there as a waitress. I posted in detail here on that when it occurred.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

Had dinner last night at El Toro with GE, his Lady and my woman, Jen. I mentioned the other day that I was having Jen come over Monday night. WOW. 25, 5'5", 121#, long, raven hair, ruby lips (yes and sparks flying from her fingertips), olive skin, a solid "A Team" woman and a 9.2 on looks and a 9.4 on body (36C, 26, 36 w/ a "rack to die for").

More on my woman later. I think Jackson may have to commence a basic IQ Test here for new members of the Board. Now, I do NOT know this guys Board Name and paid no attention when GE told me his real name (went back to telling Jen what I was going to do to her when we got back to the Hotel).

We had finished our dinner and were seated at the bar drinking coffee. Henny leads in two guys who dropped by De Bonte Koe looking for GE. He led them across the Courtyard to his other restaurant where we were. I knew right off by GE's furtive glance in my direction that he did not know either guy. Turns out the one is a lurker; never posts but is an avid readed. Like a vampire he sucks out information via PM's from Board members. Never Posts or provides any information useful or not. He used GE as his "pointman" this time.

GE makes no attempt to inform him that Slayer was in attendance (one of my few Rules; when guys show up unexpected I am NOT around). Any guy looking in my direction who noticed me would have to be fucking crazy. Jen was sitting with me in a pair of"body fitting" pants and a "hot blue" form fitting blouse which nicely accentuated her big, lovely tits. She is BEAUTIFUL, plain and simple. The guy begins by apologising to Henny that he will not be taking diving lessons, citing a basic fear of whatever the fuck. I am massaging Jen's side and telling her how I will fuck her in various parts of her body when we get back. Her reply is only, "okay honey, whatever you want".

The guy then asks GE where he can get clothes. Goes on to tell how he arrived in the Phils on his first Trip without ANY clothing, save for what is on his body (t shirt, shorts, sneakers, no socks). This gets my attention and I turn from Jen to look at this guy. With both GE and myself staring he states, "I had all my clothes neatly set out on my bed and forgot to pack them in my suitcase". I knew it was time to go and GE offered to give us a ride home.

Outside I asked GE, "What the fuck did he do? Did he come here with an empty suitcase"? GE goes, "I can see a guy forgetting to pack a pair of socks but all his clothes"? Jen thought she missed something in translation to vasayan and even inquired if he really said what she thought she heard. My only comment then was, "GE, do you intend to hang with these two guys"? His response, "Oh hell no".

I got home and fucked Jen for the third and fourth times that day. Nine times so far since her arrival at 8:00PM Monday evening; it is early Wednesday evening now but who's counting?

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

I posted some photos of Eden back in March here. Look back for them. She is a sold "B Team" woman, 21, 7.0 on looks and body. Cute but nothing like Jen, Pixie (numerous pics here) my daughter's mother, my son's mother, Jing (pics here) or my Beijing Doll. She is a first rate hustler. Young, stupid but working men for $$$.

She was due to arrive at 7:00PM at the Marco Polo Hotel to accompany me to dinner. At 7:15 she texted she would be late. Arrived at 9:00PM but I was out eating. Took her till 10:00PM to get to El Toro where I had moved after dining at De Bonte Koe.

She had her 20 y/o cousin with her, something she told me she would not do. They both proceeded to order Pina Coladas at P150 each (after all I was paying). Began to give me a "sad story" which she must have invented during the three hours she was late at arriving. I told her I had only one bed in my room and no place for her cousin. Reminded her how she said she was coming alone, knowing we were going out for dinner. I also mentioned how 10:00PM for a 7:00PM dinner was a little too much.

She then asked for money to give her cousin. I said NO. Told her to have her cousin stay with her sister or one of her friends here. She did not think this a good idea (no $$$ this way). They ended up in my taxi to my Hotel where I exited, paid the fare and wished them a fun night.

After Cristine on Sunday, 26 and a 6.5 on looks but quickly becoming fat, and now Eden, I had tired of "B Team" women. The following morning I confirmed with Jen that we would meet that night and told GE (and Henny over lunch) I had decided to "bring in the A Team". Over dinner Monday he told me, "You said you were bring in the A Team; I think you made a very wise choice".

Dragon Slayer

Starting in a few months Viva Macau Airlines is going to running direct flights from Davao to Macau and vice versa.So for team Davao,Macau and its famous MPS and Zhuhai and its " red ropes"will be only a short hop away.This is straight from the Regional Tourism Director.

Pals,

I was asked for Eden's contact information. I deleted her cell # here but I will retrieve it and give it via a PM. She is looking for dollars but not bad looking.

I read the Fight Club Board again. Getting more and more unusual. One guy appears to Post only on that Board. Another guy wants to know why it is so aggressive (it IS called the Fight Club). Anyway, the photos are funny and to the guy who posted a pic of some lady in the USA, She does not appear fat and looks sexy in a "sort of way".

I am finally in my Pres Suite at Casa Leticia. I should never have talked up this Hotel. My Suite has been occupied, most likely by a lurker here, for the past week. Last night while sitting on our Terrace in the Exec Room next door, drinking a magnificent Champagne with Jen, a magnificent woman. I got a bit out of hand. I began yelling over the terrace wall for the guy to "get out of my suite". Told him, "the Pres Suite belongs to the Dragon Slayer". Jen kept telling me to be quiet. I said I had enough of this guy encroaching on my Suite.

Not sure if he heard me but he did move this morning. Jen is up there making herself comfortable. It will be great to have my old Suite back now. I do hope you guys like Apo View, Marco Polo, Waterfront, etc. I recommend them all. Before I began posting here I would simply arrive in Davao and go directly up to my Suite. I had a good thing going and I ruined it.

I am taking a break from fucking. These marathon fuck sessions are exhausting. Last night, we stayed at the Hotel, fucked, drank a Schlamsberg Rose" and ordered room service. Spent the evening on our terrace listening to music with Jen in my lap. Had a Spanish red wine with dinner and watched a late movie. Awoke this morning and fucked and then we did not awake until after Noon. Fucked again and took a bath, dressed and made it to Henny's just before the 2:00PM lunch deadline. Fortunately, many tables were still occupied so we did not inconvenience his staff.

I very much enjoy Jen's company. Not only because of her face and body (9.2 and 9.4 respectfully) but she is sweet and kind. My guess is she is with me for the experience of fine dining, champagne, red wines and sex with an american. I doubt she will last any longer than Elaine, the 22 y/o here in Davao (photos here)that I was with in Feb. She came up with some fucking nonsense excuse to not see me again. Claimed my request that she take birth control was inconsiderate of her. She really just wanted to get back to fucking young, educated filipinos from her age group.

Jen did surprise me last night by asking if she could spend her coming birthday with me here in Davao. She had told me she would need to leave by Sep 2 as her friends had scheduled a birthday party for her then. I am supposed to be at a Party with Daniel's mother the 1st in Cebu. She could go with a friend I imagine but I will most likely depart. Don't see this going beyond this Trip. The lady is just TOO HOT not to have many men in her life. Sometimes you have to be realistic.

Dragon Slayer

Thanks for the posts DS,

Remind me not to stay at Casa Leticia when you are there bellowing out and about.

Actually, CL is a great place. Excellent service, although I wouldn't recommend the overpriced Internet service. Hopefully, they've bought a new computer (or computer connection) since that time.

Cheaper rooms share a common balcony, which could be a security risk (especially when DS is in the next room). Nevertheless, a very nice place which is conveniently located. I think it is Japanese run, but so what.

Hey, DS, is the lost-clothes guy a REAL STORY or did you and GE make this up? My first trip to Davao I had only one set of clothes. My baggage was left in Cebu.

BTW, if H still does diving lessons, could you please post the contact info.

X

Just a few comments from my first trip to Davao before I head out for the evening:

Davao is DEAD on Tuesday nights.

Club 183 on Wednesday night (ladies night) is like shooting fish in a barrel. Tons of hot available ladies.

DS's girl Jen, who I got to see today when they walked into De Bonte Ko for the before mentioned late lunch is indeed hot. The food there is quite good, and Henny is a class act.

Regency Inn is perilously close to "dump" status, and they started repair work on the room next to mine at 9AM. Apo View is much better, albeit twice the price, but there was a pretty bad mustiness when I first entered my room, as has been previously mentioned here. After returning a few hours later it was mostly gone. The massage girls offer extras, but their massage is not as good as the shiatsu available at the Regency Inn.

I've never stayed in the Apo View, but I've got lots of friends who have, and I've always been struck by the mustiness that never entirely disappears. This is one of the reasons I would never recommend staying there to anyone. The other of course is that the place is just not well maintained, and I don't think the owner has spend more than $2.50 on maintenance since it was opened.

Xman, the DS story about the forgotten clothes is absolutely true. In fact, he repeated it here practically verbatim as this guy told it to us. Can you imagine getting to the airport, ready to disembark on an international (or for that matter any) trip, and saying to yourself: "Whoops. I seem to have forgotten to bring a suitcase?" In his case, he seems to have forgotten to have packed a suitcase, which I guess is even worse. I'll post Henny's dive School email address later, once I've had a chance to look it up, or I may send it to you by PM if I decide I don't want to broadcast it. I'll ask Henny which he would prefer.

DS and the lovely Jen were here at our place last night, and she is truly a fine looking woman. But then, you would expect that as DS' tastes are impeccable. He also brought a vintage Taitanger Rose with him, and a good time was had by all.

:D

GE

The musty smell seems to be gone, but then again my sinuses are stopped up so I may just not be smelling it anymore. The lack of maintenance is truly sad. It would really not take much to turn this place back into the true 4 star hotel I suspect it once was.

That's right about the day of the week being key. If someone only has 3 or 4 days to spend here they should definitely time it from Wednesday onward. Or if staying longer they should start on Wednesday and by the time the dead Sunday-Monday spell comes around they should have plenty of contacts to see them through.

In Club 183 on the best nights you don't even need to pick anyone up. You can just writhe amongst the teeming masses and get your jollies that way.

I think all but the best Philippines hotels fight a generally losing battle against foul odors. Even the Marco Polo last week smelled really rank just outside the 7th floor elevators.

[QUOTE=Hippie]Just a few comments from my first trip to Davao before I head out for the evening:

Davao is DEAD on Tuesday nights.

Club 183 on Wednesday night (ladies night) is like shooting fish in a barrel. Tons of hot available ladies.

DS's girl Jen, who I got to see today when they walked into De Bonte Ko for the before mentioned late lunch is indeed hot. The food there is quite good, and Henny is a class act.

Regency Inn is perilously close to "dump" status, and they started repair work on the room next to mine at 9AM. Apo View is much better, albeit twice the price, but there was a pretty bad mustiness when I first entered my room, as has been previously mentioned here. After returning a few hours later it was mostly gone. The massage girls offer extras, but their massage is not as good as the shiatsu available at the Regency Inn.[/QUOTE]

Pals,

Ground Zero is good on Monday and Tuesday nights as it gets co-eds & nurses in the evening. The clubs are fine for pro pussy after 10:00PM.

I have been flooded with texts from ladies I know here. "Timing is everything", as I like to say. Elvie, a 9.0 on looks and 9.2 on body sent me messages yesterday and this morning to announce her availability. I had called and texted her many times last week. She must have had to check her "options". Jade with the perfect set of tits called and texted me the prior two days to inform me she woulld make the Trip into town now for me. Sad she did not say this last week.

I would have to be fucking insane to even think of leaving Jen for another woman; ANY WOMAN. A look from her huge, lovely brown eyes could bring an erection on a statue. I had to send a message last night to GE saying "sorry we will be a bit late. My fault. I cannot get enough of her. Like heroin". This morning the choice was lunch or fucking Jen. Eating did not stand a chance. Thriteen times now in less than four days. She has little to say and few comments. But a look from her could melt a glacier. Asks for nothing except to spend her birthday with me here.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

China can Wait. I decided to skip it this Trip. Why would I want to be anyplace but Davao? Love this City. I may extend my Trip a few days to allow more time with my children. No desire to see other women now. Told GE this morning, "I found what I am looking for". Even if it lasts only for now, stilll better than nothing.

Not sure what tonight will bring as it is early yet. Stopped by the rooftop club, Toto-s here last night. Ambiance is great. Jen liked it. We were the only people there at 10:30PM. Have no idea how it normally does.

I am out of Champagne as I left some in Cebu. Have to go out to a store this evening. Jen likes the Schlamsberg Rose so hopefully I can come up with some of the Beringer Rose here in Davao (the Schlamberg is hard to get even in Ca.).

Dragon Slayer

GE, thanks for clarifying the thing about lost soul who forgot to pack his suitcase. I've heard that certain types of inhaled smoke can cause forgetfullness...poor guy.

Is it possible this guy is a friend of the guy who gave you the evil eye while holding a steak knife? Or was it a butter knife?

I guess life in Davao is a never ending soap opera.

As for Apo View, never smelled anything bad in the one room I stayed in, but that doesn't mean there isn't a room that's bad. Or maybe the north side has more mildw than the south side. I'll pass on Apo more because I'm worried about electrical fires....as was explained in a previous post.

Also was pissed off at check out. Lobby was closed due to the fire and they had a makeshift lobby in one of the spacious areas between the lobby and the elevators. The check out was taking incredibly long. As I was waiting one employee came into the area, sat in front of a computer, logged onto Yahoo and started checking her messages.

At that point I complained (about the wait) and mentioned that some of us had planes to catch. One guy politely explained "...blah...blah...the fire...blah...and they were doing their best".

I replied, "well, what about her checking her personal email? Can't she help out."

Hmmm, a lot of emarrassed faces among the staff, but I strangely became very popular with a group of 30ish, middle class, women waiting behind me, who very vocally and bluntly agreed with me and my complaints.

Ha, ha, complain like that in Japan and people quickly move away from you as if you are carrying an ax and a severed head. (I assume since I try to avoid carrying severed heads around)

note: if you are from Homeland security and are reading this, I assure you I've never carried a severed head onto an airplane, nor into the USofA.

X

Those of you who love Davao, please take this in the spirit it is intended. Planned a four day trip to Davao but left after two days. It seemed the only serious mongering to be found was in Hot Leggs II. Aside from being stone cold dark, it turned out to be like a high school formal – you sit at a table and ladies are brought to you. No chance to mingle. For a mongerer with a time/management problem this is not the place to visit.

Yet, I visited some of the smaller places I read about here and found them to be very laid back and full of charm. It appears to me that Davao, with the right initial contacts and an appreciable amount of time, can be a fun place. It is not for short-timers.

Billpsu, I agree completely. Davao is a nice enough town, but not a place I will ever make an effort to go back to. I was somewhat aware of this before I came, but really expected the freelancer action to be better based on what I read here. Despite what DS says, I found virtually no P4P or other action available on Tuesday evening, and we went to pretty much every club in Rizal Promenade, the Autoshop area, and two other club areas I don't know the names of. There were a very small number of women who might have been working, but they were just plain ugly. Maybe this was just a particularly bad Tuesday. I arrived too late to check out GZ that night. In fact, the only night I did check it out was Saturday about 10:15, and there was nothing even remotely interesting. Maybe it requires more patience than I had. If I had realized Hot Legs II was a Filipino style go-go I would not have bothered to go, but since I was there I went ahead and got a forgettable session in a VIP room. I did not find any of the girls there to be above an 8, but YMMV.

I was too tired to go out on Thursday, and called it an early night on Saturday as I had an early flight, but I did venture out again on Friday. Not bad, but not spectacular. Definitely not as good as Wednesday at 183, but much better at the other locations.

Had I had more time to spending chatting with girls on the Internet before I arrived, I'm sure I would have had more fun. As it was, the three I did manage to touch bases with all turned out to be a waste of time for one reason or another. However, as a guy who likes to go out to clubs in the evening when on vacation, I would have still been disappointed. The town is just a bit too small and quiet for me, and the large number of clubs actually works against it on the off days, as no place reaches a "critical mass" of partiers.

On the plus side, the smell never came back in my room, and the buffet at the ground floor restaurant was good enough that I ate there the last three nights. Henny's food is certainly better, but the convenience factor kept winning out.

[QUOTE=Billpsu]Those of you who love Davao, please take this in the spirit it is intended. For a mongerer with a time/management problem this is not the place to visit.
It appears to me that Davao, with the right initial contacts and an appreciable amount of time, can be a fun place. It is not for short-timers.[/QUOTE]

I agree with all of the major points in Bill's post, but then again, many of us have made the same point many times. If you're into the club scenes, and the p4p arena, there is no reason at all to come to Davao. Sure. It exists here, but other areas are much, much better and you'll only leave disappointed. I've said often, as have Dragon Slayer and others, that the nicest attraction of Davao is the accessibility of "normal women." But again, this doesn't mean that you're going to breeze in here for three or four days, hook up with a bunch of women you met at a restaurant/office/department store, and then screw your brains out.

I would advise anyone who is not willing to come to Davao for at least a week, to go elsewhere. I'd also advise you to think clearly about why you want to come here and to come with a realistic set of expectations. It's not a place, as Bill says, for short timers, and it may not be the place even for those of you who want to stay longer.

Most of us who love the city either live here, and know it very, very well, or spend several weeks a year here and have done so for many years. Many of us know people who can introduce us to the types of ladies we want to meet, or know people who know people who can do so. Now that I think of it, most, if not all of us, are grizzled veterans of the road wars who have been at this a long time, and find Davao a pleasing change. I don't think anyone in the group of which I'm speaking is less than 45 and most of us are significantly older than that.

This is not intended to put anyone down, but merely to suggest that Davao appeals more to a specific type of older guy who has experienced the gamut of mongering options and now searches for something different. I, for example, simply cannot do the Burgos St./EDSA Complex thing any more and find that it has zero appeal. For those who want that, or who want the Angeles City experience, fine, but Davao is probably not for you.

It will be interesting to see what Dragon Slayer and Spam Hog think about this. They may have a different take.

:D

GE

As a younger guy in my late 30 s,I wanted to put in my 2 cents opinion on Davao.Davao is a relaxing relatively peaceful city.It is low cost compared to Manila or Cebu.But it is a haven for hunting NORMAL women.Given the desperation of the local women for better lives,It is not that difficult to get normal women here.Regarding Bars and Clubs Manila and Cebu have better scenes.For those with less time,Stick to Manila or Cebu.Spam Hog has joined Team Cebu I believe though.Davao is more for relaxation then mongering

It may be worthwhile to have one of those 'sticky' posts that stay at the top of the page saying that Davao is NOT Angeles or Burgos St. Etc. etc.

Hunting normal girls is not for the impatient or those short of time. Even in Davao, which is chock full of women that are open to being with foreigners, you can go through dry spells and down days. That goes double if you're a picky sort. I had two lost days in this trip because 3 internet girls stood me up. I only picked up one girl this trip in the bars, at the Blue Room (And SHE was just fine even for picky me). Last year it was the same, one girl picked up 'cold turkey.' So that's 2 in about 3 weeks of being in Davao. Of course if I didn't have so much lined up already by internet contacts and friends' introductions I might be trying harder out in the bars.

Another important point that GE mentioned a few weeks ago is you have to be assertive. They don't just come and sit in your lap. You have to go up and say hi, prepare to be shot down, then try again and keep trying. The law of averages will eventually work for you IF you have the time to pursue it.

All of the night clubs I've seen in Davao like both of the Hot Legs, Galera, etc. have been Filipino style. That means they tend to be dark, have different kind of showing styles, and definitely you will be the only foreign guy there or one of a very few. They tend to stick it to the foreigner price wise. All in all if you want go-go bar action there is no way that you want to come here.

Pals,

Long ago I read an article containing some very sage advise. It said, " Give a beautiful woman a gift of fine jewelry and she will be so very grateful". I wish I had noted the Author's name. I would like to hire him for a consultation for additional wise, useful words. Jen said she wanted to be with me for her birthday. I told GE that I wanted to buy her something nice for the day.

Before anyone mentions the old one about it always being an asian girl's birthday when she is with a foreigner, her cellphone lit up like a Christmas Tree beginning the day before and all through her birthday. She got over 50 messages and phone calls wishing her Happy Birthday. So GoodEnough took me first to get money and then to buy something for her from a Wholesale Jewelry Dealer he knows. First they pulled out the 14K gold but I asked to see the 18k. There is a real noticable difference in the two when you first see the one and then the other.

We spent fifteen minutes choosing an 18K necklace and another 5 minutes deciding on an 18K heart pendant for it. GE's lady helped her put it on and also got me a small discount. I pulled out a wad of bills, paid and off we went to dinner at La Toscana Restaurant on Quirino St in d/t Davao. We ate plenty, I had three beers and the bill for the two of us was only P535. GE and his Lady arranged for a birthday cake to be brought in and the Place played a record of "Happy Birthday".

GE said he needed to head home and asked if they could drop us anywhere. Jen said she wanted to return to the Hotel, so that is where we headed. When we got back I propped my feet on a few pillows in front of the TV. Jen walked in naked save for her panties. Stood in front of me and a tiny smile came across her face. She began to remove my clothes. When I was naked she quietly removed her panties, climbed onto the bed and took my huge dick in her mouth. She sucked the "beast" while stroking it with her left hand.

Twenty minutes later she stopped, climbed on top of me and stuck trausersaurus rex inside her. She placed her hands on my chest and, moving her hips, began to slowly fuck me. I did nothing but look at her beautiful face and large, perfect tits. She smiled and began to gradually increase the movement of her hips, taking my hard beast in and out of her. She began to smile. Then softly moan outloud. I "held on for all heaven", not wanting this to end. Finally, I had to give in and shot a loud that would make Peter North proud

When I was done, Jen bent forward and softly kissed me.

Fucking Fantastic!

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

Enough on Davao being good for pussy. I wrote over a year ago to "Do a little planning before you arrive". GZ gets going on Saturday nights later but should be ok by 10:30PM. Monday - Friday you will get the nurses from the Hospital across the street and the co-eds from the several area colleges and the semi pros beginning at 7:00PM.

I did hit Burgos St again this Trip wiht my nephew from NYPD. It was just okay. The typical ripoff and we spent more money there than anywhere. Saw lots of tits and held and sucked on all that I saw but nothing more. I am not an Angeles City sort of guy. Not only my opinion but that of many guys here and in the Phils who know me. We did the nightlife thing in Cebu the night of my Son's Christening Reception. A bunch of us went out and I welft shortly afterwards to get back to my woman and my Son. My Nephew and the other three guys stayed out till at least 02:00AM enjoying Clubs like Silver Dollar, Exotica and Lone Star.

I wrote two years ago here that for the "pay for play" go to Pattaya City Thailand. End of Story. The six Clubs here in Davao (fuck there are seven Clubs I know of even in Dumaguete City) are basically ripoffs. I have stated this here more times than could possibly be necessary.

Davao is overflowing with lovely, sensual, beautiful women like Elaine, the 22 y/o I had in Feb and Jen who is with me now. Only trouble is you have to work for it. These are regular ladies who are looking to meet a Gentleman. A guy who looks at least "presentable", is polite, does not insult her and treats her like the Lady that she is. This includes taking her to dinner at nice restaurants and treat her to a box of fine chocolates, bottle of champagne or an evening of music and dancing.

I have met few guys from the Board. GE has met many. From what he AND his Lady have told me (and Henny's comments), many of the guys have a real problem doing any of what I mentioned in the previous paragraph. I asked the other night why one guy dined alone at Henny's De Bonte Koe on a Saturday evening when he supposedly was "up to his ears" in Davao Pussy. GE started to comment about dinner costing P300-400 at Henny;s ($6-$8 US), too much for some guys to spend on a woman. His woman interrupted him saying, "Why will he take a girl to dinner? All he wants to do is fuck her. He does not care about the girl or how she feels".

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

I know some guys come here a little tight on money. Galleria Hotel near Quirino St (and La Toscana) by Davao Doctors' hospital is a good place to stay if you cannot spend a lot. Rooms go for P 1800 and are nice. Casa Leticia has very very nice standard rooms for less. Laroux Pension House across from O'Flanagan's on Illustre St has rooms with a/c for about P500.

I have never stayed in standard rooms at Casa Leticia or the other two places but heard they are fine. I know the rooms at C L are nice as i have viewed them. For a fine dining experience La Toscana is great for anyone, EVEN the guy on a tight budget. IF you and your woman have a drink each and a pasta or a pizza (delicious) your total bill will be about P400 ($8 US); less than at Mc Donald's back home.

I posted here in Feb 2004 about a place where Annie (Davao nurse; big, lovely tits and beautiful) and I shared a stew and I had a beer and she drank a coke for a total of P 60 back then. I took Jen there late Friday night after drinks at Chico's on Rizal Street (and dinner at El Torro). I had a beer and she had a Royal soft drink. Cost was P40 for all. This is a cute, openair place just about 30 meters to the right of Casa Leticia as you exit. They have karaoke upstairs but we wanted the view of the street and to sit and relax. The guys running it were very friendly and decent to us both.

At GZ I think I paid P28/bottle for beer. Food is reasonable and JD, the waiter, will get it for you. I tipped him about P20. O'Flanagan's has a Happy Hour from 5:00PM to 8:00PM. I go there mainly for the fabulous Meatloaf dinner for P200 ($ 4). This is a great, home cooked meal and very filling.

I am Posting from the "War Room" of GE's Residence here. Jen is asleep in the other room on the couch. GE is here chatting with me and we are discussing the Board (what else?).

As i find more inexpensive places to eat, drink, get fucked, etc i will post here.

Dragon Slayer

got too good a thing with a girl from Oriental I met on CB, so I am flying down, hosting the family one night (Friday) then bringing her to Manila (will be her first time on a plane). Will try and sneak out late Friday night for some fun, although I will be SO drained from a week in LOS and then 3 nights in Manila that I will need a sex break (like DS mentioned) LOL.

DS I think you mean SchRamsberg (R not an L) unless you were intentionally being funny and pronouncing it with an Asian accent. Never tried (or heard of) them having a Rose, but the Blanc de Blanc and Blanc de Noire are superlative (my favorites). Not difficult to obtain in CA (presuming you meant the State of Arnold). I can hook you up with our wine merchant in SF should you so desire.

I agree with just about everything that has been posted recently on the scene in Davao. The key is that some things are subjective. One guy's "plenty of action" can be another's "dead as hell." I personally chose Davao specifically because of the opportunity to meet regular girls. I just did not realize that opportunity was limited exclusively to Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday as far as bars were concerned. I did try cruising SM Mall and had one encounter that was looking quite well until her bitchy ugly friend insisted on leaving right away, and dragged her away by the arm as we were preparing to exchange numbers. Everyone who has said you need to be willing to make the first move is right. (Unfortunately, I kept getting smiles from really hot girls who were with guys. It was obvious they were interested, but there was nothing I could do about it.)

Meeting girls on the Internet first is good advice. I had planned to do that, but you know what they say about best laid plans. However, if you are the kind of guy who likes going out at night even when you are with a girl, you will probably still fnd Davao disappointing during the week. I managed to hook up with a girl Wednesday night who was very much my type and quite sweet, although not exactly intellectually stimulating. However, I was still bored the next few days just because there was not much for us to do. Also, the beaches I saw were really disappointing.

As for P4P, I agree with DS that Burgos is not too hot, but disagree about Pattaya. I find lots of places to be better, including AC and Bangkok. However, just my opinion.

DS, while I probably won't make it back to Davao since my company has no office there and I can't see spending more vacation time on it, I'd still like to thank you for posting the valuable info about inexpensive places to eat and drink. I had planned to stay on a budget on this trip, but the more bored I am the more money I tend to spend trying to have fun. It is hard to watch your spending when everything is so cheap, but it adds up after a few days.

I too have been remiss in my manners for not thanking DS for the Davao information he has posted in the past. Although my trip was a bust, at least I felt as if I were "on safari," so to speak, with respect to finding and evaluationg these places for myself. Thank you DS.

Someday, when time permits, I would like to invest a significant amount of time in getting to know Davao.

[QUOTE=Hippie]I agree with just about everything that has been posted recently on the scene in Davao. The key is that some things are subjective. One guy's "plenty of action" can be another's "dead as hell." I personally chose Davao specifically because of the opportunity to meet regular girls. I just did not realize that opportunity was limited exclusively to Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday as far as bars were concerned. I did try cruising SM Mall and had one encounter that was looking quite well until her bitchy ugly friend insisted on leaving right away, and dragged her away by the arm as we were preparing to exchange numbers. Everyone who has said you need to be willing to make the first move is right. (Unfortunately, I kept getting smiles from really hot girls who were with guys. It was obvious they were interested, but there was nothing I could do about it.)

Meeting girls on the Internet first is good advice. I had planned to do that, but you know what they say about best laid plans. However, if you are the kind of guy who likes going out at night even when you are with a girl, you will probably still fnd Davao disappointing during the week. I managed to hook up with a girl Wednesday night who was very much my type and quite sweet, although not exactly intellectually stimulating. However, I was still bored the next few days just because there was not much for us to do. Also, the beaches I saw were really disappointing.

As for P4P, I agree with DS that Burgos is not too hot, but disagree about Pattaya. I find lots of places to be better, including AC and Bangkok. However, just my opinion.

DS, while I probably won't make it back to Davao since my company has no office there and I can't see spending more vacation time on it, I'd still like to thank you for posting the valuable info about inexpensive places to eat and drink. I had planned to stay on a budget on this trip, but the more bored I am the more money I tend to spend trying to have fun. It is hard to watch your spending when everything is so cheap, but it adds up after a few days.[/QUOTE]

Pals,
It was a Great Trip. Hated to see it end. I was three nights in Manila, a week in Cebu, two nights on Leyte with my little girls, and 11 nights in Davao. Saw my daughter and her mother for a few days again in Cebu before returning home.

My idea of a Wild TIme is fucking like crazy, meeting lovely, beautiful, sexy (no pigs for the Slayer) ladies between 18 and 38 (don't laugh, some of the finest pussy I ever had was age 35+) for fucking, fine dining, fucking, champagne nights on the terrace, fucking, watching movies together, fucking, hanging with GE and his Lady, fucking and sucking. Almost forgot to mention, I Like to Fuck a Lot.

I hope this settles the question on my idea of "Plenty of Action". How much action in Davao? Met Eden and got rid of her quick as mentioned. Following morning Cristine, aged 26 came by and fucked me till mid afternoon. Spent a relaxing two hours that evening at GZ and then dinner/drinks at Henny's. I had plans to meet Jade from two prior trips, age 28 with large, "perfect tits", Rhea, 22 (photos here), Rose and Elvie but I met Jen Monday. After that, no need to meet anyone else in Davao.

I did not meet any Pros or Semi Pros simply because I did not need to meet them. You guys can have a great time here also. Just hit on the ladies, don't be shy and DO get their cellphone numbers. I have a few other suggestions that work. Post more later as I need to rest.

Not sure if Schlamsberg in an "L' or an "R". I had the last two bottles from my Champagne cellar consumed in Davao so I do not have one to check. My Pal who is a distributor told me he had a case of the Schlamberg Rose for me but it has not been delivered yet. Anyone in California will have no problem getting this. GE had it at the Champagne Party for my Son in Cebu last Aug 20. I will post more and on my Cebu and Manila adventures also.

My Nephew did meet the 21 y/o, Rose here in Davao. I arrived in Davao after his departure. He did not stop by to eat at Henny's two restaurants or see GoodEnough here. Word was he was constantly occupied with this Rose. He pissed me off for about a dozen different reasons which I will relate here. Any information on his time in Davao is from GE. I was in dire need of a rest from the kid and his rookey misadventures in Manila and Cebu. He gives a new meaning to "tightwad" and "freeloader" and "NAIEVE".

I may need to hold a seance some time soon. Promised my Mother to look after the kid after she died. I need to "contact" her now to see if I can contribute to charties, do neeeded volunteer work, or something else. "Looking after" the kid is more than my patience can handle. I cannot go back on my Word and risk her anger, but I do want to preserve my sanity also.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

Wonder what happened to my earlier Post. Anyway I am home. Many from this Board attended my Son's Baptism, Dinner/Wine Reception at Cafe Adriatico and the Champagne Party the following evening in the Penthouse of Crowne Regency Hotel. Thankyou all. And thankyou for the beautiful, lovely gifts for Daniel. His Mother was very impressed by my choice of friends, your appearance (extremely welll dressed one and all ) and your generosity. The two parties were very extravagant but I had a lot of fun holding both of them.

I told GE, I enjoy throwing parties. His reply was, "yes and your are very good at it". I intend to hold a Party for my young daughter in the Presidential Suite of Casa Leticia in early January. I will host another party in the Penthouse of Crowne Regency Hotel between Christmas and New Year's. Look forward to seeing you guys at BOTH. I will have Champagne at both and fine, northern california and french, red wines. I will invite lovely, single women also. I intend to have a Gosset "95 Celebrus and a Krug Gold label Champagne for the pre New Year's Party. For my daughter's birthday I might include one of the two extremely rare Charles Heidsick "96 Black Label Champagnes I have. My buddy, Steve, A wine distributor has offered to purchase these from me at a profit as he cannot get them due to limited production and very high demand in France (virtually unknown in USA).

Dragon Slayer

Well, the Dragon Slayer has departed, and I have to admit that the scale of excitement in Davao has dropped proportionately since his departure. Henny also reports about a 20% drop-off in his business due to this circumstance and at least one wine store is closing.

Thanks Slayer, for the lovely parties, the great champagne, the company and the wine. It was fun and my lady sends you her very best as well. I will really look forward to the '96 Black Label champagne during the next go round.

I am contemplating throwing a New Year's Eve party this year as we certainly have the space and the facilities. Getting the single women there will not be a problem, but finding enough guys to accommodate them all may be. I'm only going to throw the party however, if the Slayer is in town.

:D

GE

Pals,

For some reason my return home from this annual August Trip provides far more hassels and problems than any other trips I make during each calendar year. I believe part of this is due to the tourist trade taking their final trip of the summer. More just relates to the lousy weather in my city back here this time of year. The rest, I do not know. I am considering moving this Trip.

By now everyone who reads this Board knows the Kid as my Nephew from New York City and NYPD. Not really a kid but certainly a naieve rookie. He must have been stricten with a serious case of "puppy love" for the little bi__h, Rose, the younger sister of Elaine. I made the mistake of hooking him up with her last Feb '06 when I was fucking Elaine 3 times a day here. I was doing a "good deed" and as I am fond of relating, "no good deed will go unpunished".

I last saw my nephew as he left my home on Leyte for a boat to Cebu and then a Flight to Davao. This was early morning and I got up to eat with my daughter and other little girl before they left for school. Last I saw of the nephew was him departing on a tricycle; not to be heard from since, at least not by me.

The Rose witch must have gotten hold of my rookie nephew the moment he touched down in Davao. He did not stop by O'Flanagan's, Henny's or meet with any of my friends. This was one more disappointment I had with him as GoodEnough had gone far to assist him in every way possible. Henny had told me he was looking forward to joining him at the Bar in his two restaurants, El Toro and De Bonte Koe. He did make a "guest appearance" with Rose for a beer at De Bonte Koe the night before he left. Just before closing and stayed for less than 30 minutes.

Did the nephew get laid? NO. Of course not! But, as he told GE by phone, "I was 'this close' and I got everything but". What the fuck is he talking about? "This close" is something I get about five times each week just when I am sitting talking to a lovely woman. Not somethig I would boast about to another man. And what else is there? If you did not get laid, you struck out. Period. Almost is fine in horseshoes and handgranades. Of no use at all in the Realm of Davao Pussy Hunting.

The Kid could have at least offered to meet GE for dinner and thank him properly for his kindnesss and assistance. But, as he did with me, he not so sagely chose the far cheaper route of a text message saying, "had a great time. Thanks". Okay you cheap SOB. Should the Kid contact either of us for future assistance, we BOTH intend to be unavailable.

To add further damage I had instructed him that I would "slice off his testicles" if he so much of mentioned to Rose or her sister about anything in my Life, especially my infant son. It comes under the "none of their fucking business" caption. Needless to say, he accidentally on purpose slipped up, something I should have known, given his propensity for drinking and who is mother is, would have occurred. Even mentioned when I was to be arriving so they could "fuck with me from the start".

Right as I was heading in the Marco Polo van to the Hotel I get several texts messages in a row taunting me about the birth of my son and the bad person I am. This coming from the older sister, Elaine. It was a great way to start my Davao Trip. She was the one to get rid of me in March with the bullshit reason that I was "insensitive".

Anyway, the Trip worked out fine and Jen arrived on my doorstep two nights after I arrived. Have not heard from my Nephew but I have no doubt he is in constant communication with Rose. She may tire of him, his drinking and constant smoking (she said she hates both) or see him for a big, american sucker.

Dragon Slayer

[QUOTE=Dragon Slayer]Pals,

For some reason my return home from this annual August Trip provides far more hassels and problems than any other trips I make during each calendar year. I believe part of this is due to the tourist trade taking their final trip of the summer. More just relates to the lousy weather in my city back here this time of year. The rest, I do not know. I am considering moving this Trip.

By now everyone who reads this Board knows the Kid as my Nephew from New York City and NYPD. Not really a kid but certainly a naieve rookie. He must have been stricten with a serious case of "puppy love" for the little bi__h, Rose, the younger sister of Elaine. I made the mistake of hooking him up with her last Feb '06 when I was fucking Elaine 3 times a day here. I was doing a "good deed" and as I am fond of relating, "no good deed will go unpunished".

I last saw my nephew as he left my home on Leyte for a boat to Cebu and then a Flight to Davao. This was early morning and I got up to eat with my daughter and other little girl before they left for school. Last I saw of the nephew was him departing on a tricycle; not to be heard from since, at least not by me.

The Rose witch must have gotten hold of my rookie nephew the moment he touched down in Davao. He did not stop by O'Flanagan's, Henny's or meet with any of my friends. This was one more disappointment I had with him as GoodEnough had gone far to assist him in every way possible. Henny had told me he was looking forward to joining him at the Bar in his two restaurants, El Toro and De Bonte Koe. He did make a "guest appearance" with Rose for a beer at De Bonte Koe the night before he left. Just before closing and stayed for less than 30 minutes.

Did the nephew get laid? NO. Of course not! But, as he told GE by phone, "I was 'this close' and I got everything but". What the fuck is he talking about? "This close" is something I get about five times each week just when I am sitting talking to a lovely woman. Not somethig I would boast about to another man. And what else is there? If you did not get laid, you struck out. Period. Almost is fine in horseshoes and handgranades. Of no use at all in the Realm of Davao Pussy Hunting.

The Kid could have at least offered to meet GE for dinner and thank him properly for his kindnesss and assistance. But, as he did with me, he not so sagely chose the far cheaper route of a text message saying, "had a great time. Thanks". Okay you cheap SOB. Should the Kid contact either of us for future assistance, we BOTH intend to be unavailable.

To add further damage I had instructed him that I would "slice off his testicles" if he so much of mentioned to Rose or her sister about anything in my Life, especially my infant son. It comes under the "none of their fucking business" caption. Needless to say, he accidentally on purpose slipped up, something I should have known, given his propensity for drinking and who is mother is, would have occurred. Even mentioned when I was to be arriving so they could "fuck with me from the start".

Right as I was heading in the Marco Polo van to the Hotel I get several texts messages in a row taunting me about the birth of my son and the bad person I am. This coming from the older sister, Elaine. It was a great way to start my Davao Trip. She was the one to get rid of me in March with the bullshit reason that I was "insensitive".

Anyway, the Trip worked out fine and Jen arrived on my doorstep two nights after I arrived. Have not heard from my Nephew but I have no doubt he is in constant communication with Rose. She may tire of him, his drinking and constant smoking (she said she hates both) or see him for a big, american sucker.

Dragon Slayer[/QUOTE]Hi DS Thanks again for a great time in Cebu But
Imagine that you are lucky so far,Imagine If she MARRIES him.....Rose would be your relative and Elaine could visit.You have to educate him on this real quick before he gets hooked..I will be in Davao on the 9th to the 11th.Sorry I will miss you.GE see you soon

[QUOTE=Dragon Slayer]Pals,

By now everyone who reads this Board knows the Kid as my Nephew from New York City and NYPD. Not really a kid but certainly a naieve rookie. He must have been stricten with a serious case of "puppy love" for the little bi__h, Rose, the younger sister of Elaine. I made the mistake of hooking him up with her last Feb '06 when I was fucking Elaine 3 times a day here. I was doing a "good deed" and as I am fond of relating, "no good deed will go unpunished".

Dragon Slayer[/QUOTE]

I spent many years entertaining customers in Hong Kong at the Filipina gogo bars before my first trip to the Philippines, so I have seen my fair share of wide eyed men and boys of all ages get pulled in by a many sweet Filipina spell casters. They are masters of telling you what you want to hear, especially those in HK. If it hadn't been for a good host during my first trips to HK I myself may have fallen under the spell. Not knowing exactly how much exposure that your Nephew has had I would say that someone needs to take him to other regions of the Philippines or HK or even Thailand. This way he will hopefully see the way of so many a mongers and be a butterfly. This does not excuse his diarrhea of the mouth, which is a favorite spell of the Filipina spell casters, but hopefully he will see the light or actually the brown as in LBFM's waiting for him all over SE Asia. Good luck and I hope that he wasn't already shown the ropes and still fell under the spells.

This is a very good lesson for all those who plan to visit the Philippines for the first time or any other country like the Philippines. I, as well as many other long time mongers, have seen many many guys who will swear...and I mean swear to the very depths of their souls that the girl they have met is different. Not saying that there are not a few and I mean very few real Filpinas out there, but too think you are going to meet THE ONE on your first trip is like thinking that you are going to score on your first trip into a strip club in Las Vegas for the same money as spent in the PI..US$20.00

Those are accurate odds fella's. If you are such a stud that you can pull free pussy from a strip club in Vegas then come on over..haha...actually if you are that much of a stud you most likely would never even think of the PI, unless you have tired of the attitudes of your home spun women. In any case take a deep breath and count backwards from 20 of the last 20 LBFM's that you had sex with and then start looking for your special lady. Good bet that after the memories you will decide to do another 20 LBFM's to be sure your ready for that special girl.

FF

Well said FF. For a lot of these guys, it must be like swimming in an endless lake of fresh water after having spent years in the sands. I've seen and met so many guys, as have most of us most likely, who come here for the first time, get totally enamoured of the first lithsome 20 something that hauls them into the sack, and fall head over heels in love. Of course, in the case of the Slayer's nephew, she was able to weave her web without even getting him into bed which shows true talent on her part, and compelte naivete on his. But this is SE Asia and this shit happens every day all over the place.

I met a guy here in Davao a couple of months ago who came to the PI for the first time last year. He's about 60 and he fell in love with a 20 year old on the second or third day of his visit. Now they're "in love" and he's planning his retirement around her and around their being together here. Maybe it will work. Who knows? The thing is, that while most of these encounters don't live up to the longer-term dream of the expats, some actually do and that's what these guys latch onto. They don't see the 98% that fail, but the 2% that work out against all the odds.

It's been my experience that most of these relationships that actually work occur with guys who live here, or who spend a lot of time here, and have already been through the one or two girls a day routine. For them, that fascination has worn off and they're more ready to distill bullshit from reality. For the newbie who gets struck, there's not much of a chance.

I remember my first trip to Patpong in Bangkok, thinking that I must have died and there must be a heaven after all. Come to think of it, I remember thinking that on my first several trips there. This phenomonon is not limited to Asia. I've seen the same thing all over Africa and in other places where the pickings are easy and the choices seemingly limitless.

I've met the Slayer's nephew and I understand exactly what Slayer is talking about, but I don't think there's anything that anyone can do about it. He's not the first, and he surely will not be the last to get ensnared.

:D

GE

I must say that the last few posts are very interesting. I too, remember my first trip to SE Asia and how enchanting it was. Guess what? It still is! For me, to go into a bar filled with girls in bikinis and pick one and be fornicating with her a half hour later is dynamite! Unbeatable. And it never loses its allure.

Would I be doing it if I lived in the PI full time? Maybe. GE, its not a given that because you live there, the bars become boring. How do I know that? Because a week after I left Davao a couple of years ago, we saw Maurice O'Flanagan in Angeles City, and he's an expat.

I'm sure that the guys who fall in love with PI girls are having a whale of a time too. If it doesn't work out, they'll lick their wounds for a while, and then draw from the well again. They can keep on doing this until they finally get what they want.

Last category is the older expat who has a young 'wife'. Way, way younger than he could hope to get back in the States. You yourself, GE, have extolled this possibility and the preciousness of it.

It seems that whatever type of woman anyone wants, they can be found in the PI and its all good. The only caution is to keep your finances totally separate so that you can live to fight another day if necessary.

Don

Regarding the Last Post I can only reply in the following way:

If you are from the U.S. you can only use a K visa once, and then you are done, unless you can prove that she used you, good luck on that one.

My advise is that you never, ever, never, ever immigrate any women over to the U.S. In my line of work I often see what happens. Lets say things do not work out and she is not the same girl(seems to happen ALOT) and you refuse to change, by continuing her sponsership, her status to an LPR(Legla Permanent Resident) and you kick her to the curb. Now what, well if she is smart, and a lot of these ladies are fairly intelligent, she will accuse you of abusing her and self petition, if she is believed, you are now fucked, and she will become an LPR even without you.

Hate to be so cynical, but I have lived it and I see it all of the time. I mean I have had clients who's wife gave him the Clap or much much worse. You just never know.

You have to realize that to a certain degree as soon as your future wife lands on U.S. soil has a tremendous advantage on you. In the state that I work in Community Property is the law, so everything that you earn through wages she now has a RIGHT to 1/2 of it. And if you have a business you can get really screwed, no pun intended.

My advise, and one that I give my clients is that if you absolutely can not live without this girl, and she is IT for you, and you MUST bring her into the country, then show her a very strong Pre-Nuptial Agreement. One that allows you to keep EVERYTHING that you have or earn during the marriage, and one where she waives all spousal support(sorry gents but you can never waive child support) and see how she reacts. I have noticed that sometimes that the bride to be freaks out completely, and I tell him, this lady is not for you!

The best situation is one where you can have a women in a foreign country and keep her there, or to a country that is closer to you. If your lady can not get a tourist visa to the U.S., what about Canada or Mexico? If you live anywhere near these places then just have your honey on the other side of the border, and it now is cheaper to keep her happy, because believe me it can get very expensive if you bring a 3rd world girl to the U.S. and you make a decent living!

The very best situation is to keep her in her own country and you visit her, but alas some gentlemen do not have that option.

I hope this clarifies some issues for everyone.

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This great post really belongs in the "filipinas - opinions & advice" thread. Not sure I know how to make a link to Barbarosa's post in that thread, perhaps someone can do that.

His advice is exactly what I have been thinking about the honey I met: keep her there in the Phils while my money stays where I come from. If someday time from now I decide to stay in the Phils long term, then sure she's with me if she's still around. I really don't want to bring her home nor do I want to marry her, but I know she has those thoughts in her head. She's told me about a friend she just met who is going to the US on a fiancee visa later this year so I think she'll be leaning on me for one of those someday. Well I only have one thing to say in Thai: "chaat naa". We'll see how that goes over.

Pals,

I Post about my nephew's first Trip to the Phils and Davao and the Board "lights up" with talk of prenuptials and whatever. Last evening while drinking a fine 2000 French Red Bordeaux, I chatted with GE. Asked the usual, "read the Posts today on the Davao Board"? He said "yes, you seem to provoke comments".

I have been travelling here 4-5 times a year for 18 years now. Last Trip was # 95. Trips 1-12 were only to Thaniland and # 13 was my first to the Phils. Have not been to Thailand for over three years now, mainly because I discovered China (8 Trips there since Aug '03). I personally do NOT hold such a bleak view of Filipinas and YES, I have lots to lose in terms of finances. I do know quite a few success stories of marriages lasting over 20 years. Longer than many of my friends married to American women here.

Protecting your assets (and your ass) is NOT an insurmountable task. As to the prenuptial, showing her that in the Phils is useless. THe other party to the forthcoming marriage (I have known many instances here in the US where the woman was the rich one) must have access to separate Legal Counsel for an "in depth" review of the proposed Prenuptial Agreement prior to signing. Never hurts to have an LLC and an irrevocable trust formed long before the wedding also. Lot of work? Yes. Worth it? you bet.

As to the Nephew and the possibility of Elaine arriving at my doorstep. You guys need to look at a map of the USA. The Kid lives nearly 3,000 miles from me in NYC. Been 13 years since any member of my Family has visited me ( I tell them "NO" always) and doubt anyone will arrive any time soon.

I talked to his Mother today on important matters of my Father's will. He has told her nothing of his Trip. She had no idea he even met the witch, Rose. I told her of my disappointment in his having no gift for my Son at the Reception and nothing for my two little girls. He was taken care of everywhere he went in the Phils yet saw no need to repay anyone's generosity, including GE's, with so much as dinner and drinks or a bottle of French Red. She said he probably thought it was "unnecessary". Offered to talk to him but I told her it would be useless. "Small thinkers" do not change.

I have not spoken to him since his early morning departure from my home on Leyte Aug 23. GoodEnough is the only one who can shed any light on how the Kid did in Davao and no one has any idea where he went, He did not even eat a single lunch at Henny's, let alone drinks and dinner. My assupmtion is that Rose took him to some filipino carenderias and outside stalls. His pention for not spending money would have found this appealing.

Now back to the important matter of Davao Pussy. As GE and I discussed, many guys come here and leave disappointed. Reasons are many and I will pass on the ones dealing with the guys themselves (ie: "Freddy Kruger" could not have scored in most of the clubs here even, let alone with the regular women). We both agreed that they do NOT take the time to meet the regular women here. I guess many just do not have the initiative, social skills or whatever it takes to approach a lady, say hello and arrange dinner, karaoke or any of the things that these women enjoy.

This Post is long enough.

Dragon Slayer

Wooow.

"We both agreed that they do NOT take the time to meet the regular women here. I guess many just do not have the initiative, social skills or whatever it takes to approach a lady, say hello and arrange dinner, karaoke or any of the things that these women enjoy."

For those of us who just don't have the time, and are little more cerebral, an "or" would have been nice.





[QUOTE=Dragon Slayer]Pals,

I Post about my nephew's first Trip to the Phils and Davao and the Board "lights up" with talk of prenuptials and whatever. Last evening while drinking a fine 2000 French Red Bordeaux, I chatted with GE. Asked the usual, "read the Posts today on the Davao Board"? He said "yes, you seem to provoke comments".

I have been travelling here 4-5 times a year for 18 years now. Last Trip was # 95. Trips 1-12 were only to Thaniland and # 13 was my first to the Phils. Have not been to Thailand for over three years now, mainly because I discovered China (8 Trips there since Aug '03). I personally do NOT hold such a bleak view of Filipinas and YES, I have lots to lose in terms of finances. I do know quite a few success stories of marriages lasting over 20 years. Longer than many of my friends married to American women here.

Protecting your assets (and your ass) is NOT an insurmountable task. As to the prenuptial, showing her that in the Phils is useless. THe other party to the forthcoming marriage (I have known many instances here in the US where the woman was the rich one) must have access to separate Legal Counsel for an "in depth" review of the proposed Prenuptial Agreement prior to signing. Never hurts to have an LLC and an irrevocable trust formed long before the wedding also. Lot of work? Yes. Worth it? you bet.

As to the Nephew and the possibility of Elaine arriving at my doorstep. You guys need to look at a map of the USA. The Kid lives nearly 3,000 miles from me in NYC. Been 13 years since any member of my Family has visited me ( I tell them "NO" always) and doubt anyone will arrive any time soon.

I talked to his Mother today on important matters of my Father's will. He has told her nothing of his Trip. She had no idea he even met the witch, Rose. I told her of my disappointment in his having no gift for my Son at the Reception and nothing for my two little girls. He was taken care of everywhere he went in the Phils yet saw no need to repay anyone's generosity, including GE's, with so much as dinner and drinks or a bottle of French Red. She said he probably thought it was "unnecessary". Offered to talk to him but I told her it would be useless. "Small thinkers" do not change.

I have not spoken to him since his early morning departure from my home on Leyte Aug 23. GoodEnough is the only one who can shed any light on how the Kid did in Davao and no one has any idea where he went, He did not even eat a single lunch at Henny's, let alone drinks and dinner. My assupmtion is that Rose took him to some filipino carenderias and outside stalls. His pention for not spending money would have found this appealing.

Now back to the important matter of Davao Pussy. As GE and I discussed, many guys come here and leave disappointed. Reasons are many and I will pass on the ones dealing with the guys themselves (ie: "Freddy Kruger" could not have scored in most of the clubs here even, let alone with the regular women). We both agreed that they do NOT take the time to meet the regular women here. I guess many just do not have the initiative, social skills or whatever it takes to approach a lady, say hello and arrange dinner, karaoke or any of the things that these women enjoy.

This Post is long enough.

Dragon Slayer[/QUOTE]

Pals,

My Posts keep getting the "blue copy" treatment. Not certain why. Now I have mentioned many times that I have NOT met many guys from this Board, although I DO like many guys from this Board and would have liked to have seen them at my Son's Baptism and two parties on successive nights.

Still, I have read many Posts here and I am giving my personal feeling on the situation. First, I seriously believe that many guys "want their pussy handed to them". Not only here. I have had plenty of "friends" (not real friends) back in my City who would want to get in touch with me when I was holding a party or to be introduced to women. The guy GE met in April 2004 from my City, who GE refers to as "Cheez whiz" and I call the "Bone Collector" (guy has more skeletons in his "closet" than the County Morgue), is a Case in Point.

Finally, sick at long last of his contacting me solely to accompany me on Trips to Asia and for Pussy Introductions, I told him he would have "no problem on his own" meeting women in Davao. His response was simple: never heard from him again. Which, to be honest, in very gratifying. He wanted me to fix him up with my Annie's fellow nurses and the young nursing graduates she had in training at Cebu Doctors' Hospital where she was Head Nurse at the time. The fact that "BONES" had never done squat for me or even offered a simple "thanks Slayer" was something he could not comprehend.


Like my Nephew, "the Kid" and many GE has met here, they forget this is a "Two Way Street". Last week I posted from the War Room, GE's Office in Davao which we have used for nearly three years to confer on Davao Team matters and Pussy Hunting. My nephew was a major topic due to his "lack of gratitude" to both of us. GoodEnough then pulled out his mini computer, ipod and cell combo. He began to read several texts and PM's to me from guys on this Board. They, one and all, were asking him for favors. In one particular instance the guy was asking for "another favor" and also for assistance for some pal of his whom GE does not know from Bin Laden.

GE told me, I did favors for this guy before when he was here and he showed no gratitude. No offer of a dinner and/or drinks or anything to reciprocate for what GE had done for this jerk. I personally DO NOT have the set of balls on my 6'4", 240# body to do this to anyone. GE is NOT his "daddy" to arrange his hotels and hook him up here.

The "I am too busy" to meet regular women is coming from guys whom I am quite certain have tons of free time. I have my own Firm and my two children and my other little girl in the Philippines. I imagine I could use this "too busy" argument just like everyone else. So lets' all be realistic. Some guys just use this as an excuse and then come here and complain because they did not meet the "solid boardfeet of Davao Pussy" they anticipated.

Dragon Slayer

Why would any monger travel thousands of miles to meet a 'regular woman'. We can do that in our own backyards. Go through the bullshit of begging for phone numbers, first dates, pecks on the cheek and after a big investment, finally, a fuck. What follows is the possessiveness, emotional swordplay and all the other horseshit. Now why the fuck would anyone travel thousands of miles for that? Don't make any kinda sense.

Yo Slayer! We travel to PI to sportsfuck. Forget the chocolates will ya. Its cash on the pillow. Thats the way to go. Wise up.

Don

Don may speak for the majority of guys who come here for "sports fucking." That's fine and as the Slayer and I, as well as others have said, this is not a good town for that sport. If you're into paying for as much pussy as possible in the shortest amount of time, that's your business, but don't come here as you will no doubt leave disappointed.

It may surprise Don to learn however, that there are other guys, believe it or not, who are tired of that scene and are looking to hook up with an actual woman that they like for a possible longer-term relationship. For those guys, especially those with time to invest, this is a great place because it offers multiple venues and opportunities to meet such women. And no, it's not at all the same in this regard as the US or Europe. It's much easier for one thing, and the girls' expectations are much lower for another. Also, the path from drinks and dinner to bed is much shorter. To use myself as an example, I had 20+ years of "sports fucking," and I got tired of it and wanted a change. Most of the other expats whom I know here are in the same boat.

From the number of PMs I receive asking for introductions, advice and additional information, I know that there must be hundreds of other guys who read this thread who are looking for the same thing. The Slayer gets even more PMs than I do about this subject, so there must be a whole universe of guys out there for whom "sports fucking" is not the sine qua non of their existence.

Yes, being successful in this regard requires at least minimal social graces, a willingness to spend some funds up front without necessarily getting laid immediately, and just a soupcon of charm. For those willing to make such an investment, and who are not still fascinated by the chance to bag 20 women or so in six or seven days, the payback on investment is substantial. For those who are not interested, Davao is probably not for you.

:D

GE

With a just a LITTLE charm and game, an average looking guy can score loads of regular girls in the PI. It is not like you need weeks of courting to score. Usually by the second or third date you will get action IMHO. After a first date with no sex, go pick up a hooker. Is that so hard?

I load my suitcase with little gifts to give in lieu of cold hard cash (trhough I do give small amounts of taxi money as the girls are often very poor).

Manila is loaded with hard core hos too, so there is something for everybody in the PI. But it is the ease of getting non pros that makes the PI more fun than Thailand IMHO. I like Thailand for the gogos and bj bars, but I like the PI for the ego boost of scoring so many "good" girls,

[QUOTE=Dashing Don]Why would any monger travel thousands of miles to meet a 'regular woman'. We can do that in our own backyards. Go through the bullshit of begging for phone numbers, first dates, pecks on the cheek and after a big investment, finally, a fuck. What follows is the possessiveness, emotional swordplay and all the other horseshit. Now why the fuck would anyone travel thousands of miles for that? Don't make any kinda sense.

Yo Slayer! We travel to PI to sportsfuck. Forget the chocolates will ya. Its cash on the pillow. Thats the way to go. Wise up.

Don[/QUOTE]With all due respect Senator Why do people spend thousands of Dollars to fly to Alaska,Hawaii,South America to Fish,When they can buy fish at the supermarket.Its the thrill of fishing and thats why SOME people prefer to fish for regular women in Davao.You have to realize,there is something fun in catching your own meal then simply buying it.Cheers

GE writes that he gets a lot of PMs from guys needing introductions and such. These guys are also known as lurkers. If they can't even write a post, well of course they are going to need help meeting the opposite sex. A lurker is about as useful as tits on a bull, and has about as much to offer.

Now if GE were to write that he is getting PMs from guys who write here, then I'd be shocked. Especially if GE were to write that Bareback Bill or Surfer PMd him for help with an introduction, I'd advise GE to scale back his humanitarian activities.

As it appears to me, this board is for guys who fuck hos. Over and over. Those socially challenged who are looking for intros should be on Filipina Heart or Blossom.

Finally, I don't understand how a red-blooded male can get tired of fucking different women. I know that on occasion, after days of strenuous fucking, I want a break. Maybe I dont want to even look at a pussy for a while. But within a few days, the juices start flowing, that pecker starts perking and before I know it, Im on the street, looking for a piece of ass. I don't say to myself, ' I better stop this, I've been doing this for twenty years'. No way! There's a need to be fulfilled, a hole to be plugged. And while I'm not married now, when I was, I made a point of banging the old lady when I returned from the trips. Meaning, I don't think that having a wife and being a monger/sportsfucker is mutually exclusive.

Don

Pals,

Do not know you all. But I have heard detailed descriptions of you from GE and others on this Board. I wish I could meet women in my City who look half as hot as the ones that I meet in Davao, Cebu, southern China and elsewhere in Asia.

As I told GE last week in Davao, even in my much younger, ballplaying days when I was 40 pounds lighter and a handsome "jock" I did not meet any women who looked even remotely like Jen from this last Trip, my daughter's Mother, "Shanghai Baby" in China, my "Beijing Doll" from Beijing (of course) now in the UK, Jing in southern China (photos here) or many others in Asia.

I do have the financial resources to fuck hot looking pros in my City (there are tons of those as this is a resort area) but I choose not to do this. No personal interest in pro fucking. In Asia I occasionally see a Pro I just have to have and give her a good fucking, pay her and leave it at that.

Now guys somehow I like you much more on your "Fight Club". When you move your "game" here it loses its "glitter". I DO NOT need to "wise up". Sorry, 4 years undergraduate university study and three years post graduate study gives me all the smarts I need, especially for the WSG Boards.

I see no problem with "sport fucking" and I enjoyed getting together in Cebu three weeks ago after my Son's Reception with guys fro this Board and hitting the Clubs. We had a great time adn I should Post in Cebu on that occasion. I come to the Phils and China for the "drop dead gorgeous" women who are NOT pros.

Dragon Slayer

OK, so I'm now married and am not into the Sports F scene.

Actually I got tired of it very quickly, before I got married, and preferred the relationships I developed with non P4P ladies in Davao, Cebu and elsewhere. Still had friends who were P4P, but did not go that route after I decided it was not for me (well, OK, had a few "slips", LOL, but that was in China).

Davao is definitely limited for Sports, but is great for meeting and making "friends".

I realize that this is probably a pointless discussion, so I won't comment on the topic after this post. However, it seems clear that there are two more or less generic classes of guys writing about this: those who are into the whole multiple partner, p4p scene, and those who have grown tired of it and want something different. There's nothing wrong with either one, and there's certainly no right or wrong. I guess that some cities are better for one and some cities are better for the other.

As to the guys who PM me, I've never done a tally, but I would estimate that about half are lurkers and the other half post. I never get posts asking about where to find hookers in Davao so I guess those who write to me are a self-selected sample.

All of the women I've seen with the Slayer here--and I've seen a bunch--are gorgeous and from the "normal" population. That is, they're not bar girls. The last lady he was with, Jen, was stunning. He, better than anyone, proves my point about Davao; it's a great place to establish relationships such as those that he has had.

I'm not disparaging sports fucking either, as I've done lots of it and enjoyed most of it.

:D

GE

While in Manila a few weeks ago I was accosted by a quite ordinary SW named Lea (like Princess Lea in Star Wars). I was with a couple of colleagues at the time so I wasn't interested. I mentioned that I might have be traveling to Davao so she showed me a photo on her cell phone of her Sister/Cousin (aren't they all) named Amore who lives in Davao. Amore's phone number is +63 928 320 7331. Her photo looked model quality with rather impressive boobs. If you're in Davao, you might like to try Amore and give us all a report. Tell her that you ran into her Sister Lea in Makati. Happy trails!

Pals,

I was I ordered food and it just arrived. Beside, I have been slmming some Cellar Quality wines and having a great time. Had calls from My Beijig Doll in the Uk and talked with Jen here and my daughter and her mother and my Son's mother. Sometimes life is good.

I will comment later.

We have to all get together for Ge's New Year's Eve Party and my Party in Davao and the follow up Party in Cebu in the first week of anuary.

Dragn Slayer

Okay, can we have some translation please. Have you been slamming wine or slimming wine. And if you have been "slimming", could you please give me details about how one would do that. Sounds interesting.

GIRL COUNT:

Well since DS can give us a day by day girl count, why can't I?

Lalalalala....we go to a developed country....

Tonight's date really wanted it, I could see it in her eyes. Not to mention that she recommended a restaurant just five minutes from her apartment (after seeing a movie in a different location). Miami Vice, not as bad as some of the critics say, but I not so good either. You'd think they could find a better ASIAN ACTRESS...looks and actings...

Tonights date didn't look so good as she did a week ago Saturday when I went to a party and met here. She had some nice lush cleavage showing and I was very drunk. Sober and in daylight, she was a bit older and a bit fatter in the thighs than I expected. When I said good night and shaked her hand, she had a bit of venom in her eye. Damn, women refuse men all the time...but do it to them and you would think we shat on their doorstep.

But that same night (of the party), I also met a girl who had managed to get into my futon a few months ago, but somehow messed things up. I've stayed on friendly terms, but never had a subsequent date. She was at the party where I met tonight's date. We happened to bump into eachother on the way to the rest rooms. We stopped to say hello ...and before I knew it we were French kissing there in front of the restroom doors.

But, who cares. Thursday night I had a skinny girl, very skinny. I like the anorexic type. She was a squealer. I live in a five story apartment building...so I opened up the balcony windows. I hope the neighbors enjoyed it.

x

Pals,

First Schramsberg is how the excellent Sparkling Wine (champagne NOT from Champagne Region of France) is spelled with an R. Spoke to my pal, the distributor and the Rose' is limited production and not easy to obtain. You can PM me if you need a case of this. And No, I will not be making any money on it.

I meant slamming. I did a lot of misspelling but then I was drinking some excellent California reds from my Cellar that had been in there over three years (1999 & 2000 vintages) whle watching NFL football. I had calls from two ladies in Asia and spoke to three others as well. The "kid" in NYC also caled but we did not have an opportunity to discuss his Davao Trip. My Father's Estate is taking precedent over everything else now. If one more person, attorney, friend or whomever, asks me why he names my eldest sister and not me as Executor, I will fucking scream.

I do not get the tons of P's I used to receive from lurkers, most of whom wanted me to fix them up with women. I stopped offering ladies cellphone numbers and e-mail addresses and they stopped sending me PMs.

I knew tow guys several years ago, both computer guys (one a programmer and the other a computer consultant). They both claimed they did not need to go to Asia to score with gorgeous women. Both were very ugly looking men by anyone's judgment. I had the opportunity to meet the women they married (one was married 4 times before I lost track of him). To be kind, I will call their women "not god looking". In reality they were so fucking ugly I could not even look at the one. The other was plain and had a butt the size of New England and dressed in what looked like Thrift Store throw aways.

Yet these two "studs" were boasting of how they had "pussy a plenty" while the Slayer travelled across the world for his. The one had the famous quote he kept giving me "any pussy is better than no pussy. Remember this Slayer". I must say he was definitely a Testament to his own Rhetoric. Not only were his last two wives that I met ugly. Each was several years older than him and earning little or no money while doing a good job of consuming his salary. Oh, almost forgot, they were mean and nasty.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

Here are photos of some of the women I have travelled across the world to be with during the last 1 1/2 years Yes, I am sure all of you get much lovlier, sexier, more beautiful women right where you live in your country. RIGHT!

Well, the Dragon Slayer, former ballplayer who still looks good and who has his own successful Company and is financially solvent (and then some) does not.

First is a photo of my Jen from Davao taken by GE at his home ten days ago. The next two are of my "Beijing Doll" whom I met in Beijing but is now in the UK. The next three are of my "Shanghai Baby" in southern China. A magnificent women and I "blew it". The last four are of Hui Li in southern China. She is 26 and lovely.

I have much better photos of my Beijing Doll nude but she is very much in my life now so I so not want to have her face here for all to see. Same for not showing nudes of Jen. I doubt if Hui Li would be offended as she enjoys posing nude. None of these women are or ever were Pros or semi-pros. All but one has at least a four year College Degree.

Okay I know you guys have much lovlier women at your doorsteps nightly. So enjoy your lives and let the Slayer live his.



Dragon Slayer

Thanks for the pictures. Your china doll is really...a doll!

As for drinking and spelling they don't go well together. Looking back at my post from last night certainly confirms that! I was drinking an inexpensive Chardonnay from Australia called Yellow tail. Hmmm, "yellow tail"?

And a great quote.

"He is a testament to his own rhetoric". Good one.

Hoping to make it to Davao around the holidays.

X

Hey I'm in! I guess after awhile lurking here you can join the club? Anyway, heres my story. My first time in the Philippines was Jan. 2005. I was in Mindanao for 1 month. My gf and her mother met me at the airport in Davao. We stayed overnight at the Apo Veiw and the next day we took the bus to her place in Mangagoy. I work with many Filapinas and most of them told me, " be careful where you go, what you do. Etc. Etc. Etc". I didn't venture around town much by myself until I got bored after a few days. Theres not much to do in these small places. Internet cafe, a few cheesy restaurants, thats about it. I decided to go jogging and walking alone and like some of you say here, it is quite unnerving the 1st time. The staring and people calling you "joe". At first I thought they were making fun of me by calling me that name until the family said it's just their way of trying to say hi. The funniest thing though, was when I came back to the house after my journey the door was locked. Yeah, they were all out looking for me. LOL. Well to make a long story short I'm going back to Mindanao in early 07 and this time I want to stay in Davao for about a good week by myself. I want to have some fun. Nudge. Nudge. Wink. Wink. It's kind of stiff being with my gf and her mom. The mother is quite religious, which really isn't a big thing. Sometimes though I get uncomfortable around her because she is always replying to my words with religious connotations. I can't be with them 24/7, I need some relaxation before I'm off to the province again. I hope to wander around Davao and check out the hotties. Maybe I'll see some of yous around and we can have a drink or 2. I enjoy reading the posts here.

Im ashamed of myself for not publically thanking the slayer for the magnificent party he threw during the christening of his son, lot of excuses why a belated mention mainly due to computer repair, But anyhow thought I would combine it with the appreciation for the pixs of the much awaited (on my part) view of the much taslked about Shanghai baby, yes my friend she is all that you said and probably a lot more, that body is PERFECTLY proportioned.

Anyhow to the rest of ye who may have doubt re the DS all I can say is I have LONG understood why he does so well in the PI and other places as the Man has a touch of class. That is something westerners fail to understand concerning their dealings with Asian's particularly the women...they admire FACE, if I have to explain that concept to any of you then go back to sociology 101 and start over. Women admire a man of means who knows how to treat them well and with a bit of class and even charm, Filipinas are very susceptible to this, it isn't just the money or the fact that you're a "rich" westerner its knowing how to act and treat people properly DS got that part covered.

The Spam hog

As usual, SH got it right. It's not the money, or at least, it's not only the money. It's having a certain amount of charm, gentility, and the ability to actually listen to women and respond to them as people. I don't think you even need Sociology 101 to understand this. Some guys get it, and some don't.

Spam Hog, if you're around these parts for New Year's Eve, please join the party. I spoke to the Slayer at some length this morning and he confirmed that he's planning to be here. I figure that we'll round up some of the guys we both know from Davao, and their ladies, add a couple of "extra" ladies for those who may come without, and then take it from there. Let me know if you will be around Davao during that time.

:D

GE

Pals,

Thankyou Spamhogs and GoodEnough for your kind words and XMan for his compliments. I got it wrong there. The first photo is of Jen. The next three are of Shanghai Baby and then, two of Beijing Doll. Notice her body is visible but her face is obscured. The last four are of Hui Li.

I see we have a Lurker converted to a Davao afficionado. Welcome. There will be two parties held in Davao around the end of this year.

Remember the Bone Collector? This guy was a former acquaintance of mine living here in my City. Bones is a world class lurker on this Board. Would not join as he said it would embarrasss him and hurt his reputation. I never could determine what reputation Bones had as everyone considered him a "First Rate Asshole". Bones never got it right about Asian Women. To the Bone Collector they were just "tools" to be used and discarded. I finally grew weary of Bones and his fucking piece of shit attitude to Asian Women and people in general.

Enough on Bones and back to much more pleasant matters. I assume the one guy wants more photos of Shanghai Baby as it was her photos that I confused with my Beijing Doll. I will scan some and include with more photos of Hui Li and my Beijing Doll.

Dragon Slayer

Anyone know the cost of a CT scan in Davao hospital my girlfriend went there with her mom for treatment of a headache and couldn't afford the scan. She won't accept any money from me for anything. I send her load so we can talk everyday but even then she doesn't like it. You find a decent girl and can't help her its frustrating.

Tungsten Chef
I'm heading to Mangagoy next year I hope it is a place an expat can live in. I don't mind quiet, dull and boring so long as I got a beach. I am going to check out Davao just in case its too quiet.

GoodEnough
Always enjoyed your posts you are singularly the most helpful person on any of the Philippine boards I usually don't post because I haven't been to Davao before but I am planning on coming next April

Dragon Slayer
you are the most colourful person I've seen on the boards and no I can't pull any of the chicks you can in even in my own home town which is full of beautiful asian women mostly Tiawanese maybe you should hit these shores one day. There are the lovely P4P ones here cos its legal but its cheaper in the PI and some of your ladies do have bodies to die for, it was nice to see them.

[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]Anyone know the cost of a CT scan in Davao hospital my girlfriend went there with her mom for treatment of a headache and couldn't afford the scan. She won't accept any money from me for anything. I send her load so we can talk everyday but even then she doesn't like it. You find a decent girl and can't help her its frustrating.

Tungsten Chef
I'm heading to Mangagoy next year I hope it is a place an expat can live in. I don't mind quiet, dull and boring so long as I got a beach. I am going to check out Davao just in case its too quiet.

GoodEnough
Always enjoyed your posts you are singularly the most helpful person on any of the Philippine boards I usually don't post because I haven't been to Davao before but I am planning on coming next April

Dragon Slayer
you are the most colourful person I've seen on the boards and no I can't pull any of the chicks you can in even in my own home town which is full of beautiful asian women mostly Tiawanese maybe you should hit these shores one day. There are the lovely P4P ones here cos its legal but its cheaper in the PI and some of your ladies do have bodies to die for, it was nice to see them.[/QUOTE]Using Cebu rates as a guide about 8-10 thousand pesos might be a good range.GE care to confirm this ??? Cheers

Pals,

This was my Woman for a brief, fantastic period that ended over a year ago. SHe was a fantastic woman and my stupid desire for "the pussy on the next 'block"" messed it up. She quit her work, left her apartment and moved home to her parents place in Sichuan Province and soon after changed her cellphone number and stopped the yahoo e-mail address.

Wish I could find her and slither across the floor on my belly, lick at her toes begging forgiveness and a Second Chance. Second Chances come mainly Golf and Table Tennis, not in Pussy THumping.

Anyway, I would offer her diamond necklaces, new car, home in the country, anything just to have trousersaurus rex buried deep in her "love nest" again.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

In case some guys wondered why the women I just had photos of included were Chinese with the exception of Jen, it is because I have posted photos of many of the other women in Davao and Cebu here already. At least a dozen nudes of Pixie, half a dozen of Cham, photos of Elaine and many others. I would not have ever listed photos of my SHanghai Baby but she is obviously done with me. If I cannot locate her (believe me I am fucking trying) I doubt others can. Besides the photos in no way degrade or embarass a truly magnificent woman. I knew you guys would enjoy finally seeing them.

If I appear like a man who claims starvation while standing there wth "a large loaf of bread under each arm and a bottle of fine, red wine in his mouth", well I guess it is accurate. Still hard to get over her. Same holds for the one in Nagoya Japan from 1994. And she in no way gave anywhere near the fabulous blowjob (had great tits though) Shanghai Baby did.

A footnote to Beijing Doll's photos. She is holding a riedel crystal (same as I gave GE for a gift 2 years ago) glass othe Schramsberg Rose" "Champagne" in her hadn in the one nude photo of her.

On another Note at the Reception Party at Cafe Adriatico for my Son last August 18, a quorum of Davao Team members being present, it was placed in nomination by GoodEnough that "the Kid", my Nephew, be made an official Member of the Davao Team. Seconded by Spamhogs and a vote then taken he was unanimously voted into our small, elite Group. That evening he was presented with his Davao Team shirt, making it official. He is alreadyasking when we will hold our next Meeting. Last week of December in Davao.

I hope someone else will run for President. I have hled this position for nearly three years and want some other Member to take over.

First four photos are more of Hui Li, 26, in southern China. The other two are of my "Beijing Doll', a wonderful Lady. I did not want to have her face showing, especially as we are now talking about meeting in Hong Kong and her accompanying me to Davao. So, I was limited in photo choices. in the one she is helping herself to a glass of Champagne.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer

[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Using Cebu rates as a guide about 8-10 thousand pesos might be a good range.GE care to confirm this ??? Cheers[/QUOTE]Thanks for that Cebu Local I appreciate it. No wonder they went back to the province she told me its a family problem and they will solve it.

[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Using Cebu rates as a guide about 8-10 thousand pesos might be a good range.GE care to confirm this ??? Cheers[/QUOTE]
The rate here for a CT scan is probably between PhP4-6,000. I think the only hospital with the equipment is Davao Doctors Hospital. Based on my recent experience however, I would be cautious about getting any sophisticated tests done here; not because there's little in the way of equipment (which is true) but because the ability of trained professionals to interpret test results correctly or even to operate the equipment correctly is highly questionnable. I would encourage anyone with anything more than a routine medical problem to go to Singapore.

:D

GE

Thanks GoodEnough, Davao is their third largest city so thats scary information on their medical expertise. Whats Davao like for dental work then? I'll be there for about a month and want some things fixed.

Surprisingly, there are some excellent dentists here in Davao, many of whom have received part of their training in the US or Europe. The quality of the work they do is typically up to Western standards, and the prices are at most 25% of what one would pay in the US.

:D

GE

Pals,

A heavy work load and dealing with the massive problem of settling my Father's Estate keeps me very busy. I have had no time to Post and it appears the Board has gone dormant.

I hope GE is enjoying himself as I have been unable to contact him. I am now ready to hold the Holiday Party in Davao as my good friend in the Wine/Spirits Business needs my Professionnal assistance. He is also a Client and made a "prepayment" of a case of the magnificent Schramsberg Rose 2003 "Champagne" and a mixed case of magnificent Italian Reds, including a 1990 Barolo. He even helped me find a new computer repair guy as it looked like my 6 month old Laptop had "bit the dust" leaving me with the task of buying a new one at a cost well in excess of my airfare to the Phils next Trip.

However, the guy fixed it for $ 50 (WOW) and I was so ecstatic that I ordered and paid for two "platinum level" Charles Heidsick "95 'white label'. Champagnes. Steve was obviously happy also. He told me they wholesale for $80/btl ($ 120 - $130 retail) but I could have them for $70 each. I plan to bring one of these bottles along with the Schramsberg Rose for my next Trip and to drink with lovely Filipinas, and my good friends here..

I have been talking to Jen reguarly. She is planning a Trip to Zamboanga to Visit her Family. I have not been there since 1995 so I told her I would fly there for a few days.

I plan to do some House Hunting in Davao this next Trip. I am considering buying a Home in the same gated community as GoodEnough. I like it there and GE has offered to check on my home if I am back working in the USA. So far I have had five different ladies offer to "look after" the house for me, including Jen and my daughter's mother. I already built a home for my daughter and her mother on the ocean. They need to look after that one. They can visit this one with me.

In any event I have no plans of ever retiring and I am much too young anyway. But my home here is paid for and I think I need to make plans now rather than just talk about doing something. I have my Attorney in Cebu whom I retained for handling the formal name change of both of my children to my Name. He will provide the necessary legal expertise. The birth of my Son facilitates this so that I will never need a Filipina on the Property Deed or Title of any future Business I might commence here.

Mothers of both my children have been informed of my intent to acquire Property here, together with my Son & Daughter (but NOT them), and they are very happy. I spend so much time here it is a smart move.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

I do not think that Medical Care in the Philippines is bad. Both of my children became ill recently and my Infant Son was even hospitalized. They both received excellent care and the cost was a small fraction of what it would be here.

The "Kid", my Nephew, did finally give me a brief report on his Davao Trip. As you all heard, I was on the Island with m two little girls and my daughter's mother. Then I visited Pixie (photos here). I arrived in Davao the day after his departure. Yes, I planned it this was, but still Elaine and the bit__ Rose, had to "fuck with my head", sending me insulting text messages as I was literally riding in the Marco Polo van to the Hotel.

Apparently, Rose met him at Davao Int'l Airport and accompanied him to the Marco Polo. He stopped by Henny's late that evening with Rose for "ONE FUCKING BEER" before they closed. Obviously my Nephew is NOT into Fine Dining and elegance. "Blue Collar Johnny" was vague about what he did the rest of the time. Never made it to any of the Davao Clubs or even the Eagle's Nest Bar in the Marco Polo. I do not even know where he ate. Only that Rose was with him the entire Trip.

As mentioned, the "Kid" did not even get laid. What he did all the time is a "Mystery for the Ages". How he and Rose got along is hard to comprehend. He is a "Man's Man". Drinks Jameson's whiskey and smokes several packs of Marlboro's each day. Rose does not drink at all (would not drink champagne with Elaine and myself last February) and hates being around smokers.

In any event the Nephew said he had a fantastic time. Not sure when, if ever, he will return. I handled this Trip for him and Rose can handle the next one. He lives nearly 3,000 miles from me and was last out here for a visit in 1985. Not mch chance of my seeing Rose with him at my front door any time soon.

I will fly back to NYC to resolve my Father's Estate very soon. Hope to make a Trip to China and the Phils in late November.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

I completed a mayor project for a Client here and took a very late lunch. If the matter is extremely important I pass on food, sleep and even pussy. Finished, I went to eat. Called my little daughter and told her to have her mother buy her another of the baby, giant aruwana fish that are now for sale in a Shop 1 1/2 hours from where they live.

In my younger days I owned a combination Dog Kennel, Grooming salon and pet shop (in addition to my Firm; YES I was foolish). My daughter has inherited my love of animals/creatures to the extent that they have two "In Ground" Koi Fish Ponds and a giant aquarium housing a giant aruwana like the one in the fish tank in the presidential suite of Casa Leticia. Sady, the hotel staff killed it recently by adding chlorinated water.

Jen and I were in the Suite when they asked if they could enter to put the new, baby aruwana in the giant aquarium. We both took photos of the Event. These fish come from South America and eat primarily live fish. Grow to three feet in lenght. My daughter's was a tiny, six inch baby that is now 1 1/2 feet in length and eats three fish daily. My daughter is "crazy" about the fish. The idea of getting a second has her ecstatic.

I got off the phone and in five minutes got a call from my "Beijing Doll" (photos below). Lonely and depressed, she asked if we could meet somewhere in late October. I told her I could get away for a short Trip and we can meet in Hong Kong and then fly to Davao. If direct flights are not yet ready we will make a brief stop in Cebu for a night or two and then continue.

GoodEnough are you ready to meet my beautiful, chinese lady? Fluent in english and a 9.2 in looks and a 9.4 in body she is magnificent. Very low maintenance as she earns good money and has no problem paying her own way. Loves fine, red wines and champagnes.

I am now making plans for my End of Year Trip and the Party in Davao between Christmas & New Year's. GoodEnough will host the New Year's Eve Party and this should be a great Trip. I have decided to invite the "Kid" as I have to stay in Good Standing with my Mother. Her death anniversary just passed and I have had some strange dreams (NO, I was NOT doing drugs or drinking heavily; well NOT too heavily).

Anyway, anyone in Davao in late December should PM me now.

Dragon Slayer

I am pleased to report that on Monday this week I will start a six month Asian junket which will see me first in Shenzhen, China for 2mos , Phil 3mos starting Dec and Thailand 1 mos with maybe a quick 3-5 day trip to Angkor Wat if I need an extension in Thailand and a reduction in Phil.

At long last, almost six years, I can stop reading the sexploits herein and maybe contribute a bit or two and practise my social skills with ladies who don't speak much English - yet need not to.

After suffering a heavy bout of nausea and fighting back my mid to half life crisis I have earned myself a six month streatch lying on my back whilst pondering the importance of being well endowed in the tropics if not for my body then for my money.

Yes, I am going to be present in Davao for this New Year Shindig. 100%

And will post when I arrive in Davao on or about that time or as the board dictates. But then again what is a New Year Party if it is not at New Years?

I wonder if Freddie will come out? Being a New Years Party and such, it shouldnt be that difficult to find us.

Good to know that the Slayer is fine. I've tried to call him several times as well but with no success. However, the party is still on, I'm ordering four cases of French wine on Tuesday, and it should be fun. Anyone who gets the Dragon Slayer's imprimatur is welcome to come.

I've been in Manila for the past couple of days, and yesterday we had a major typhoon hit the city squarely with winds in excess of 176 kph. There are downed trees, light posts and billboards all over the place and 21 people were killed. The electricity died in Makati at 11 or so yesterday morning and still has not been restored in most places. Hotels and big office buildings are running on generators which means the AC sucks.

Being here reminds me why I like Davao so much more. A couple of days of the congestion, the traffic and the pollution here and I've had enough.

I actually met a guy in a bar (unintentionally) two nights ago who was at the Slayer's big bash in Cebu. I didn't recognize him, but he recognized me. A very small world indeed.

:D

GE

I would like to clarify that I personally do not encourage people to get Girls Pregnant and run away from their responsibilities.Formal apologies to the Slayer for the misunderstanding.

Well, sorry for butting in, but the person who was worried about "pregnancy" may have been worried about scammers. CL gave his clarification of the situation. I agree with DS, the right thing to do is to take responsibility for what we do (which is hard sometimes).

We also need to make sure we don't take responsibility for someone else's mistake.

Four cases of wine?


[QUOTE=Cebu Local]I would like to clarify that I personally do not encourage people to get Girls Pregnant and run away from their responsibilities.Formal apologies to the Slayer for the misunderstanding.[/QUOTE]

Pals,

I would guess that the person GE met in Manila, like GE works in the Phils. His beautiful wife is close friends with my Son's mother. They actually had my Son's Mother live with them for several months once when she was in dire straits (long before she met me). They were present at the party along with her younger sister, also beautiful. We had told them to invite their infant son and other relatives to the second party, the champagne party, held in the Penthouse. He became good friends with the "kid" and went out mongering with him and guys from this Board the night of my Son's Christening.

If by some miracle my Father's Estate is settled by the end of this year, I will have one more giant thing to celebrate. I only hope none of you has a situation involving a large estate that is placed in the hands of an Executor who has trouble (seriously) in deciding what to do each day and paying bills puts her into a state of severe distress. Yet she refuses to relinquish her assigned duties to myself and my brother, both Professionals with advanced degrees (she has a H.S. diploma) and successful business careers (she is unemployed for many years now). My Father must really have hated both of us, perhpas because we became "Too successful".

Look forward to seeing many of you by Year's End. I will most likely have my little Daughter and her beautiful Mother with me in Davao for New Year's as I promised my daughter I would be with them.

Have to return to work now.

Dragon Slayer

[QUOTE=Dragon Slayer]Pals,

If by some miracle my Father's Estate is settled by the end of this year, I will have one more giant thing to celebrate. I only hope none of you has a situation involving a large estate that is placed in the hands of an Executor who has trouble (seriously) in deciding what to do each day and paying bills puts her into a state of severe distress. Yet she refuses to relinquish her assigned duties to myself and my brother, both Professionals with advanced degrees (she has a H.S. diploma) and successful business careers (she is unemployed for many years now). My Father must really have hated both of us, perhpas because we became "Too successful".[/QUOTE]


And reminder to all to have a will in place. I know it sounds morbid to some, but it is inescapable. You will place loved ones in a situation possibly worse than what DS is going through without a written will, at least in America or if you are an American. Not sure of laws elsewhere.

Without a will the Government steps in and you do not want that.

No matter your age or health, especially those who travel frequently, you should have a will in place if you have wealth to leave behind.

FF

[QUOTE=X Man]Four cases of wine?[/QUOTE]

Well, I'm out of stock. My friends are all wine drinkers. It's as easy to order four as it is to order one, and it's the gift-giving season so I'll probably give a lot of it away.

Just called the Slayer a couple of times, still without success. I'm still stuck here in Manila and unable to get to Davao, and there's still no electricity in most of the town. At least in Davao there are no typhoons, ever, and when the electricity does go out, it's back in a couple of hours. I do not recommend coming here after a typhoon. It well and truly sucks. No electricity means no traffic lights and you can imagine what driving here is like.

I've gotten several PMs recently from newbies thinking of making a first trip to Mindanao; all wanting to know if it's safe to go off the beaten track. Let me reiterate that the major cities in Mindanao: Davao, Cagayan de Oro, Zamboanga, and even some of the smaller towns like Malaybalay and Quezon, are perfectly safe. The smaller places don't see many foreigners, so they are somewhat of a curiosity, but there's no hostility. Stay away from Cotabato (which is a slum anyway) and all of Sulu, Basilan and Tawi-Tawi. These are where the rebels hang out, and there are no real hotels on these islands anyway. In Sulu there is a small guest house (Janet's Pension) which is reasonably safe and very basic. There's no reason at all to go to these islands and there's nothing there for you.

I got another PM from a guy wanting to know if Iligan is safe. The answer is yes, but who the hell would want to go there. It's sort of like the Trenton New Jersey of Mindanao. It's a small city about halfway between Cagayan de Oro and "The Islamic City of Marawi." There are a couple of smallish hotels, a lot of squalor and nothing much to do or see. Better to hang out in CDO and, if you absolutely must roam the wild streets of Iligan, take the one hour bus ride down and then hang out for an hour and go back to CDO.

:D

GE

Pals,

The guy GE met is a "honger on" invited by the Faimly, inlcuding the Lady physician who works with my Son's Mother in the Hospital. He is essentially a fucking loser. No i nver met him.Hie relationwith the Familyn who looked after my Son's Mother for merely six months is non-existent. The husband of the other Doct or in the Hospital, himself a pathetic "rank and rile nobody" invited thisl Loser to oor magnificent "Champange Party" in the Penthouse. I will speak to my Son's Mother os that in the future ONLY the Husband of this wonderful Filipina Physician and NOt her pathetic husband's LOSER FRiENDS come near me or my Family.

Now to more importtant matters:

CebuLocal your pathetic apology IS NOT accepted. END OF MATTER. I am now telling you (NOT ASKING) that you stay away from me forever. GoodEnough is in argeement with me on this. YES, I just finished taliking with him. Leave our Board. Got It????

I read what you said concerning men getting filipinas pregnant and abandoning them. I have met you enough to form my own personal opinoin. My Nephew, the "kid" added his own input. Please do yourself a favor and sell your travel to others and stay off the Davao Board. You are here ONLY to make money anyway.

DO NOT make me take this matter further.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

GoodEnough informed me he has been inundated with PMs from Cebulocal. He did not have the balls to contact me directly about his horrific assistance to some "piece of shit" rookie who wanted advice on how to "bare back fuck filipinas, get them preganant, and go home "worry free".

To help him you make me fucking sick. Just stay away from me, Cebulocal, FOREVER. Yes, I know you will tell me how you have all kinds of connections. I did my own "homework". Guys who have the money you claim actually pay for their own drinks. Not walk off on me or GoodEnough aka the other Loser I named the "the Stalker", leaving us to pay your tab.

Sorry for all the misspelllings in the former Post. I am very upset about this and this Guy. He has over 1000 Posts, mostly one sentence long and people might think that his "word" his gospel. It IS NOT.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

I was Posting here and GoodEnough sent me an IM over Yahoo Messenger to tell me "Great Post" pertaining to CebuLocal and how the ENTIRE DAVAO TEAM FEELS. There are exactly five (5) Members to an elite Group founded by Myself and GoodEnough back in Feb 2004 in Davao. The initial four Members included Myself, GoodEnough, SpamHogs, and Maurice O'Flanagan in Davao. Last August. a majority of Members finally Present to form a quoroum, we voted my Nephew, " the Kid" into the Davao Team.

GoodEnough says he has been inundated with PMs from Guys asking how they can enter the elite Davao Team. First off you would, I hope, want to know the benefits. We have solemnly promised to assist each other in any way possible, including Hotel discounts, Airfares, and meeting pussy, without ANY personal gain to each other individually. However, you must agree to provide the same services to the other Memebers as well.. In plain language, this is NOT a "freeloaders paradise".

A majority of Members must be present to hold a vote and elect a "New Member". This almost never occurs. We rarely get together and feel little need to add New Members. However, this can be changed. We will ALL be together the end of December. Placed in Nomination by GoodEnough for Membership is Henny, owner of two fine Restaurants in downtown Davao. Other Men wishing to become members will be voted on at the same time.

Membershp gives you the aid and assistance of ALL Davao Team Members in whatever way they can paoosibley assist you without personal gain to them. You are to provide this same service to Members, also without personal gain to YOU.

Members are given a "Davao Team" Shirt which they must purchase at a cost of P400 ($8 US). It is a polo shirt in black with an "emeral green" trim and the personal signature of Dragon Slayer (along with our Team insignia, the "Dragon"). The Pocket square is ideal for holding a 100 mg viagra pill, a condom and a small bottle of lube gel, all essential tools for the Davao Team.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

Frequent Flyer's advice is very good. Please ALL of you in situations involving a relative who has subatantial assets, do your best to convince this person to not ONLY have a Will but to name an EXECUTOR who is both responsible, reliable and efficient. "Uncle Harry" who is a 'good ol boy' or Maryjane who eveyone liked but found it tough to get through senior year of high school is NOT the person to be Executor to a multi million dollar Estate.

My Father could have saved all of us trouble. Even if he hated me, his eldest son enough to skip, he could have named our younger brother and we would be done with all of this now. Instead, I have met with advisors to determine my Legal Actions if the Executor, my eldest sister, fails to sell and distribute the massive assets of my Father's Estate, if for no other reason than she is "feeling stressed out and wants to go comatose for a few months".

Dragon Slayer

I will stay away from where I am not welcome.However I will post as needed if.. I visit the area.Sorry Things did not work out,But to clarify something.I have not made money of ISG people Since I dont actively court their Business.But that is not a point of arguement,I would also like to remind you,you do not OWN Davao,So I will stay away but I dont think you can say keep out of YOUR city and YOUR board.By the way I have picked up Drink and Dinner Tabs for many other people many times.But dont make a fuss about it.I dont believe I walked out on you except for the drinks at Cafe Adriatico which was a diet coke and An iced tea for my companion and I invited you for dinner to reciprocate.Anyway consider me history

I've always found CL to be helpful and fair, and he does have a sense of humor too.

I read the post that supposedly started this storm in a teacup and it was a complete throwaway. Nowhere near as bad as DS makes it out to be. CL gave some off the cuff advice probably in between answering 50 emails from newbies; fielding several phone calls regarding travel and perhaps shaving. All at the same time. So I wouldn't infer anything from it.

Several times I have publicly asked CL to book me hotels and make travel arrangements and he never did, but he gladly gave FREE advice as to where to stay in Butuan and other places when I needed it. He never made a dime from me even though I wanted to throw some business his way, however small, in recognition of his being a helpful and humorous guy. So DS's comment that CL is here to make money is wrong.

Those of you who have read this board for a few years know that DS goes on a rampage every once in a while, complete with threats about his '6 4" height, 'law enforcement connections' (Yawn. Here we go with that again) and other stuff. In fact, GE was the target of DS a few years ago. DS ranted about GE for months. Anyone here knows that GE is the modicum of wisdom and moderation and that it was all nonsense.

Just waitin for this to blow over,

Don

I will be in Davao this October Since I will be a Guest speaker for the DATA Davao Association of Travel Agents.However I am also scouting at an investment there and may invest in a small hotel there.There are going to be direct flights from Korea and Macau to Davao starting this October.So this will be a growing nice little city.I intend to return often here
I am going to be entertained by the City Investment Office and I have specifically requested They bring me to Henny s and they have told me they have already contacted "Lani" to set this up where I shall order more then drinks But have a full Dinner Party.To put this supposed Freeloader issue to a rest .At My request This trip the people of Sonia Garcia the Regional Tourism Director has arranged for me to meet the owners of Casa Leticia which is owned by Ray and Neneng De la Paz.Rest Assured I will have DS s ENTIRE NEXT STAY CHARGED TO MY COMPANY.This should more then pay for any drinks I may have had from him.I am not asking DS any forgivness or care to join Team Davao.I will just never accept being called a Free Loader who pretends to have money.I will stay out of your way and stay away from you.But I am not staying away from Davao. I shall be reporting from time to time on my visits to this city.
Senator Thanks for nice comments.Guys just because you are nice doesnt mean you dont know how to bite.Sometimes its better to let sleeping peaceful quiet happy dogs lie

I spoke at some length to the Dragon Slayer last night, and he asked me to explain that he did not mean to start any sort of war or controversy over this, and said he may have reacted too strongly. But the failure of men to accept financial and moral responsiblity for the children they create is a very sore spot with him, as the mother of his son was ostracized by her entire family when she announced her pregnancy, and then she was fired from her job solely as a result of being pregnant. Without the financial and emotional support provided by DS, she would have confronted some pretty awful consequences.

As to Don's comments on my relationship to DS, it's really nobody's business except DS' and mine. We're close friends who had a misunderstanding and worked it out. That's really all anyone else needs to know.

The Slayer's point is that without support from the men responsible for having impregnated them, these women suffer devastating emotional and financial consequences that they should not have to face alone. Men who flee this responsibility, or who plan from the outset to avoid the consequences of their behavior sicken him (as they do me) and this is what he was reacting to.

I understand the Slayer's point fully, as does anyone who lives or stays here for any length of time. I would estimate that more than half of the women working in the bars have been forced into lives of prostitution because the assholes who got them pregnant evaded their responsibilities, refused any support to the mother or child and, in most cases simply ran away, leaving the women to cope as best they could. Guys who, for their own pleasure, refuse to use condoms, and then refuse to acknowledge any responsibility for their actions are contemptible, and the Slayer was reacting to the posts which appear to accept the legitamacy of running away from problems created by the guys themselves.

Slayer, I hope I represented your point of view correctly. It also happens to be my own. I don't care if guys want to bareback a hundred women here. That's their business so long as the women consent. But those who indulge in such behavior have to be willing to step up and accept the consequences, the same as they would have to do in their countries of origin. To do anything else is to perpetuate the cycle of misery and poverty, which is not acceptable.

:D

GE

GE: A site devoted to fucking semi literate hookers is not Speakers’ Corner and a soap box is out of place. Your sociological analysis is spot on but, as the Victorian ditty below shows, hardly original. Dragon Slayer does not deserve a medal though he was fortunate to have the kudos to do the right thing and play Great White Saviour. DS lives in a bubble, as do all of us. Cebu Local, living in his bubble, has been generous to this board and he has not been motivated by money. The sign of a parasite is repeat behaviour and, given Cebu Local’s offer of a freebie to DS, the obvious reaction is “Me too”.

Maybe David Icke is right and this world like my own is full of lizard like aliens. But Cebu Local is not one of them even if he does associate with people who fund pawn brokers. The Philippines remains one of the saddest and most fucked over places on earth. Take a walk around Davao’s back streets and see the young unemployed guys hanging out, like dogs waiting for biatches in heat and with noting to look forward to but banging some local hottie. Or visit the lock up past the Cathedral and see the yabba heads being sent away for 15 hard while their pregnant wives are left behind to face hell. Go down the beach at night and see the boring, condomless orgies. Pinoy guys do indeed cause a lot of misery. But so do we.

Now if some jerk off posts here that he is bare backing, chances are it is to get a rise out of someone. Some people should be above that.

She was poor but she was honest,
Victim of a rich man's whim.
He was rich and he seduced her,
And she had a child by him.
See him riding in his carriage,
See him going to the hunt,
Thinking nothing of a marriage,
Only of a piece of ****.
Now she stands in Picadilly,
Selling matches by the box.
Anyone who buys those matches
Gets a hellfire dose of pox.

PS: Cebu Local: I will be in Davao at the end of the month for about 10 days and would like you to arrange free lodging.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]

The Slayer's point is that without support from the men responsible for having impregnated them, these women suffer devastating emotional and financial consequences that they should not have to face alone. Men who flee this responsibility, or who plan from the outset to avoid the consequences of their behavior sicken him (as they do me) and this is what he was reacting to.

Guys who, for their own pleasure, refuse to use condoms, and then refuse to acknowledge any responsibility for their actions are contemptible,

those who indulge in such behavior have to be willing to step up and accept the consequences, the same as they would have to do in their countries of origin.

GE[/QUOTE]

Totally agree. Thank you GE and Slayer.

Not only is it tragic for the girl, but it is also tragic for the kids. And saying "the filipinos also do it" is no excuse. If YOU bring kids into this world then YOU must take care of them.

I will be there second half of December with Chardonnay in hand.

[QUOTE=Cebu Local]I will stay away from where I am not welcome.However I will post as needed if.. I visit the area.Sorry Things did not work out,But to clarify something.I have not made money of ISG people Since I dont actively court their Business.But that is not a point of arguement,I would also like to remind you,you do not OWN Davao,So I will stay away but I dont think you can say keep out of YOUR city and YOUR board.By the way I have picked up Drink and Dinner Tabs for many other people many times.But dont make a fuss about it.I dont believe I walked out on you except for the drinks at Cafe Adriatico which was a diet coke and An iced tea for my companion and I invited you for dinner to reciprocate.Anyway consider me history[/QUOTE]
I've now spent 1 of the last 2 years in the Phils.

Before I had been able to go much at all, I read everything in this forum. CS is one of the most informative and trustworty people I've ever seen on monger forums. I've been reading this and TSM (don't even know if that site exhists now) since 1996.

[quote=goodenough]i spoke at some length to the dragon slayer last night, and he asked me to explain that he did not mean to start any sort of war or controversy over this, and said he may have reacted too strongly. but the failure of men to accept financial and moral responsiblity for the children they create is a very sore spot with him, as the mother of his son was ostracized by her entire family when she announced her pregnancy, and then she was fired from her job solely as a result of being pregnant. without the financial and emotional support provided by ds, she would have confronted some pretty awful consequences.

as to don's comments on my relationship to ds, it's really nobody's business except ds' and mine. we're close friends who had a misunderstanding and worked it out. that's really all anyone else needs to know.

the slayer's point is that without support from the men responsible for having impregnated them, these women suffer devastating emotional and financial consequences that they should not have to face alone. men who flee this responsibility, or who plan from the outset to avoid the consequences of their behavior sicken him (as they do me) and this is what he was reacting to.

i understand the slayer's point fully, as does anyone who lives or stays here for any length of time. i would estimate that more than half of the women working in the bars have been forced into lives of prostitution because the assholes who got them pregnant evaded their responsibilities, refused any support to the mother or child and, in most cases simply ran away, leaving the women to cope as best they could. guys who, for their own pleasure, refuse to use condoms, and then refuse to acknowledge any responsibility for their actions are contemptible, and the slayer was reacting to the posts which appear to accept the legitamacy of running away from problems created by the guys themselves.

slayer, i hope i represented your point of view correctly. it also happens to be my own. i don't care if guys want to bareback a hundred women here. that's their business so long as the women consent. but those who indulge in such behavior have to be willing to step up and accept the consequences, the same as they would have to do in their countries of origin. do do anything else is to perpetuate the cycle of misery and poverty, which is not acceptable.

:d

ge[/quote]i totally find irresponsible fathers disgusting.i have acted on this in the past.i have a a case where i had a staff divirginized then impregnated by a fellow staff.the guy refused to give child support claiming that he was not sure the child was his,he refused a patenity test claiming they were not 100% accurate,i provided her a lawyer for free to go after this asshole.he skipped town,so i helped her get a job overseas to help support her child.she is currently a well paid it at intercontinental dubai.

likewise i have provided a lawyer to a maid who was raped and impregnatedby her nigerian employer.she was the cousin of my driver and we were able to get a financial settlement and child support in exchange for dropping the case.guys who are not man enough to face up to their responsibilities are not true men .i admit i was guilty in being nuetral on giving advice on this matter.i should have spoken up for my personal conviction on this.i reacted rather strongly since i have never freeloaded knowingly.guys have no business creating kids they cannot support.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]
I would estimate that more than half of the women working in the bars have been forced into lives of prostitution because the assholes who got them pregnant evaded their responsibilities, refused any support to the mother or child and, in most cases simply ran away, leaving the women to cope as best they could.
GE[/QUOTE]

Lets make sure that those not in the know understand that the majority of these "working" women described by GE were impregnated by their fellow countrymen, not mongers as some may think based on the subject at hand.

The less than active role that the Government takes here is just as disgusting as the mongers who visit and do the same thing. The mongers who do this are more disgusting then the locals as they know better, the men who live here were brought up and indoctrinated just like the girls to believe that they should not use protection. So I waiver to blame them on their lack of condom use, but once the girl is pregnant their behavior is unforgivable.

The Government gives no true recourse to the girls. If there is action that can be taken the girls are reluctant to do so. I have offered assistance in the past to girls to help them take action, but they refuse. They simply look at the child as a blessing that they are totally responsible for. Worse again is that, from what I understand about the law in the PI, the father and his family can at any time make claim to the baby and remove the baby from the mother to their family.

FF

Absolutely right and I should have clarified that point. Most of the girls get impregnated by the assholes here who promptly run away, abdicate every responsibility and then probably go and do the same thing with other girls and repeat the cycle. How many times have you guys heard some variation of: "I used to have a boyfriend who said he loved me, took my virginity, made be pregnant and then broke my heart?" That the culture here sanctions, and even reinforces such egregious behavior is bad enough, but FF is right; at least these guys have some semblance of an excuse. The foreigners who come here however, have none.

FF is also correct that the girls have little or no recourse. It takes money to retain a lawyer and even then, there are no computerized records here that would allow easy tracking of a guy who decides to bail out. Even if he could be found, the court decisions go to the highest bidder, and that would rarely be the girl. When foreign guys pull the same stunt, embassies aren't much help either, requiring in many cases, "ackowledgement of paternity" which most foreigners who run away will not provide. These girls get screwed twice; once by the guys who got them pregnant and then again by a system that's totally stacked against them.

:D

GE

I really don't know why you bothered and don't see why you feel you need to kowtow to this bully. No need to bend over backwards to explain yourself like you've been trying to do. Any moron who reads your post can see that you weren't advocating impregnating women and leaving them. Just because it's a sore point with someone doesn't excuse them from being a complete asshole.

I and others know how you've helped more people in the Philippines, China and other places than we could possibly name. And in my case and for others it was freely given without the expectation that it would lead to some business or financial gain elsewhere.

And look how on the one hand when CL PMs GoodEnough it means he "doesn't have the balls to contact me directly." But then only a day later the best Dragon Slayer can do is this sorry missive through a phone conversation with GE to the effect of "Hehe, maybe I overreacted." Not having balls is bad enough. Being a hypocrite and not having balls is off the charts pathetic. A real man would come back here and apologize. But I wouldn't expect that history to be in the making anytime soon.

GE is right that it's his own business how he gets on with the Slayer (or not). He has his own reasons for sticking up for the man, making up with him even after vicious personal attacks, making excuses for him and spinning out topics about single mothers to change the subject and deflect attention from his friend's excesses and I respect those reasons. But the rest of us have no such reasons to be bound. Also, the fact that DS constantly spills details of his friendship (or acrimony) with GE ad infinitum, ad nauseum means that it in fact IS our business whether we like it or not unless we want to do lots and lots of scrolling. So it's just a tad disingenuous to say it's ONLY between those two, especially when DS uses alleged quotes and opinions from GE to beat up on Cebu Local (and others in the past).

But what's really of interest to me and most people is this Davao thread and how it helps people coming here looking for women. Or more specifically:

*Nobody who isn't a moderator has any right to tell another member not to post here or come here. I don't care how many times they've been to Davao. I don't care that there were only 10 posts in this thread when they started posted here. I don't care how much money is in anyone's bank account or who is 6 foot 4 or who may be picked up by law enforcement. I don't care if DS says that GE's girlfriend says that my mother wears army boots. Who the hell is he to come on Jackson's board, create a rump state and start ordering people around?

*Davao is not "my town" or anyone's town just because they blow through town, pass around a few bottles of wine and fuck a few women.

*There will be opinions that differ from those who set themselves up as Lords of the Realm. If those opinions are wrong and be countered by facts then so be it. But countering by facts doesn't include such things as: "His bank account is smaller than mine." or "My nephew is coming to town to kick your ass."

My advice to those coming to Davao is the following:

*Of course RTFF, including those posts by Dragon Slayer that have excellent information. In fact we agree on 95% of things. But that other 5 can be a *****.

*As for this "Davao Team" business, by all means make friends with the ones that matter, i.e. the ones who live there like GoodEnough, Spam Hog, etc. They'll help you without expecting endless ass kissing in return. No need to bother with the other one who thinks he's God's gift to all of us.

*Most of all, join as many chat and email sites as you can. Make contact with as many women as time allows. There's something for everyone in Davao.

CL, thanks for kindnesses in the past. My advice is go to China and get some red rope treatment and forget this loser.

Sorry for the long post, but I'm here at the remote Wakatobi Dive Resort in Indonesia. There are only fat cow western women here, so I don't have much else to do when out of the water. Normal programming will resume October 6th in Jakarta.

Don’t fuck with Mahku. What an articulate attack. And as it is from someone who has trod the less trodden path, it carries more weight. I will be there in a few weeks time, and I am hoping Cebu Local will pick up the tab as I am at least as deserving of a freebie as the big fella.

One slight quibble. Single mother prostitutes are an issue worth looking at and very many of them, in my book at least, are super heroes. They fuck all comers for their children and are scared shitless their children and others will find out how they turn a buck. Perverse as it is, it is “heartening” so see a mother’s love shine through like that. Many of them would have made great spouses but for the fact they were fucked over when they were young and fatally innocent.

I will be in touch with my own Club Davao. Real mongers don’t wear Prada, or polos;)

10-01-04 at 11:19 #81
Juniour
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I have just read your post and No I do not intend to ask anyone GE or whoever, how you come across – what for?

I would suggest that you go back and re-read my PM to you because you have obviously invented a few things in there, thrown in for sensationalism, in what I have claimed to have said.

The one thing you did get right was when I said that on this board, Philippines, there are many exaggerated claims passed off as factual, Yes I still maintain this. And maybe I must be one of the guys, who you refer to as being jealous of you, hmmmm poor me.

Finally, from your reaction I can only imagine I must be touching a raw nerve here because a quote from William Shakespeare’s Hamlet “ The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”


Juniour

Junior was expelled from this list. Who knows why?

[QUOTE=Martians]GE: A site devoted to fucking semi literate hookers is not Speakers’ Corner and a soap box is out of place. Your sociological analysis is spot on but, as the Victorian ditty below shows, hardly original.[/QUOTE]
You're right, this isn't the place and I guess in the greater scheme of things it doesn't really matter. I guess the sadness of the country is finally starting to get to me.

I enjoy most posts here, GE's included. I know this is a site for mongering, but I'm here for news of the Phils, Hotels, etc., and I do enjoy 99% of the personalities on here (or should I say "characters", LOL). I can ignore those posts that don't appeal to me and do. I do miss Davao, Cebu and the Phils in general, so this is my way of staying in touch, so thank you all (well, at least 99% of you).

[QUOTE]I guess the sadness of the country is finally starting to get to me.[/QUOTE]
This really caught my attention, so there is a downside to a great sex adventure. I am coming next year to Davao to check out the possibilities of retiring there. How realistic is it to think a person could live there and be untouched by the underside of the Philippines. The poverty, corruption and stuffups.

I am thinking of renting a place for a month while I check out the city rather than live in a hotel. I notice some of you live in gated communities how sensible is it to just rent a cheap apartment for a month outside of those? Is it better to rent when living there or to buy locally I'll be living on an Australian pension around about 38,000 pesos a month with my woman.

The $US600 a month mentioned in a previous post would be way out of my budget. I just want to live a simple life with a woman or two.

My relatives think I'm mad and should stay in Australia and find a nice 40 - 50 year old woman for company how mad is that when I have all these nice honeys promising me bliss if I show up on their doorstep in the Philippines. They tell me I'll get my head chopped off going to Mindanao but a guy got beaten almost to death at my local railway station and the houses are being broken into all the time in my neighbourhood, its not safe here either.

Any advice or suggestions would be most welcome

1. Mahku makes some good points, and his opinions do have gravitas as he has been among the top quality contributors here in recent months.

2. CL, DS and GE all have been very helpful to mongers asking questions and none of them are serial antagonists at all. While I have met none, I have zero doubt that all are likeable guys with positive vibes.

3. A long simmering personal dispute seems to have arisen which could have been better handled in private, rather than through a public forum like this one.

4. We need to self police and get the thread back on track as Jackson's patience, while Solomon like, is not infinite and the PI threads have given him more headaches than just about any other country.

5. Never got to monger during my brief stop in Davao as I was with my new GF and her family. I can say that for booking nicer hotels in Davao, the internet yields better rates than having a local call, in Visayan, and asking for local or balikbayan rate.

We stayed at Davao Insular Hotel out by the airport. Very spacious grounds with a large pool area and a pier where bancas could be hired by Hotel guests for P1,000/hour to cruise Samal Island just across the channel. HIGHLY Reccomended to do the private cruise and go for a swim off Samal in the clear water (out front of hotel is murky and swimming is discouraged according to signs posted there).

Searching the web you can get a double, including breakfast, for about $60, including the dreaded service charge & tax. Ask for room with water view. Newer building has rooms with balconies but will cost an extra $20.

Restaurants at hotel are WAY overpriced. Avoid at all costs unless others are footing the bill. Main drawback for mongers is location. Hotel taxis are a ripoff, obviously, but walk out to the main road and pay 20Pisos for the bus to town (locals pay 10) More of a place to retreat when you find a real hottie that you want to hang out with for a day or two away from the hustle and bustle of the city. Pictures below.

[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]This really caught my attention, so there is a downside to a great sex adventure. I am coming next year to Davao to check out the possibilities of retiring there. How realistic is it to think a person could live there and be untouched by the underside of the Philippines. The poverty, corruption and stuffups.

I am thinking of renting a place for a month while I check out the city rather than live in a hotel. I notice some of you live in gated communities how sensible is it to just rent a cheap apartment for a month outside of those? Is it better to rent when living there or to buy locally I'll be living on an Australian pension around about 38,000 pesos a month with my woman.

The $US600 a month mentioned in a previous post would be way out of my budget. I just want to live a simple life with a woman or two.

My relatives think I'm mad and should stay in Australia and find a nice 40 - 50 year old woman for company how mad is that when I have all these nice honeys promising me bliss if I show up on their doorstep in the Philippines. They tell me I'll get my head chopped off going to Mindanao but a guy got beaten almost to death at my local railway station and the houses are being broken into all the time in my neighbourhood, its not safe here either.

Any advice or suggestions would be most welcome[/QUOTE]
I think there's a downside to living in any third world country for a length of time. This has not at all to do with Davao and everything to do with the general hopelessness of the Philippines. It's difficult not to be touched by it, and it's impossible not to be aware of it, no matter how much you like most of the attributes of your life here. I guess I first became aware of this while living and working in African countries, in which you get a sense very quickly that things are just never going to get any better. It's much the same here, even though it's possible to ignore that fact of life most of the time.

As to the cost of living in your pension, it's certainly possible here in Davao. There are houses available, in decent neighborhoods, for as little as $100 a month. If you buy food in the local markets here, it's quite inexpensive, especially if you eat the local cuisine. Local transportation, including taxis, is also quite inexpensive, as are clothes made locally.You should have no problem living well within your pension and living reasonably well. Davao is about 40% less expensive than Manila and about 20% less expensive than Cebu, so it might be a city at which you should look carefully.

There are some fairly inexpensive apartments here, though most of the rentals are houses. It's also possible to get some excellent monthly rates at inexpensive hotels, which is an alternative you might want to consider.

As I said before, as have many others, Mindanao, at least in the cities where you would live, is totally safe. Davao, Zamboanga, and Cagayan de Oro are all safer than Manila and I've never heard of any violence directed at any foreigner in any of these places. I would estimata that at least 35% of the expats living in Davao are Australian, and there are lots of Aussies living here on fixed pensions.

Let me know in a PM if you've got any questions about the prices of specific goods or services.

The Surfer is absolutely correct about the Insular, which used to be the premier hotel in Davao. It's got gorgeous grounds, but the problem is that it has not been well-maintained, so it's reputation was rapidly eclipsed by the Marco Polo.

:D

GE

My former staff is currently a manager for one of the top hotels in the city with a salary of 35,000 pesos a month.On that salary She has a 2 bedroom apartment in the city,a live in maid and a part time laundry woman.Eats out daily eating only Breakfast at home,Goes shopping for clothes 2-3 times a week and goes out at night 3-4 times a week.Yes you can live well for 38,000 pesos a month.Some random costs Lunch Buffet or Dinner Buffet at a mid range restaurant 100 pesos or 2$,All the beer and wine you can drink at the Venue a popular Drinking spot 140 pesos or roughly 3$.FS at a massage parlor 1000 pesos or 20$.T shirt at SM 130 pesos or 2.5$.One month salary of live in maid 1500 pesos or 30$.Fine dining meal at French restaurant 400-500 pesos 8-10$.

This is why I like this city and will be setting up another business here soon.I think Davao is a great city to retire in,Good luck

Thanks GE and CL for the information, we all would be flying blind without the help from you guys.

GE I will look into the monthly rate at an inexpensive hotel it sounds like a good idea and better than signing some lease. I will PM you on things when I get closer to April thanks for the offer. I have already booked my trip just got to wait it out.

CL, great breakdown now I have a good idea of what I can afford to do I just wonder if your former staff manages to save any money on that life style as well.

I don't wish to be rude but I think you should have kept this a secret I'd hate to show up and find all the Aussies have drunk the place dry. (LOL)

"All the beer and wine you can drink at the Venue a popular Drinking spot 140 pesos or roughly 3$"

38,000 will be my base income and I hope to make some pocket money on a little business I set up back home before I retire there to pay for treats like trips to Boracay etc.

Unfortunately She doesnt save anything.But for what it its worth here is her breakdown.Rent 4,000 pesos.Eating out daily 5,000,-6,000 pesos,Maids Salary 1,500 pesos,Laundry woman 500 pesos,Going out drinks cost 2,000 -2,500 pesos,Clothes 5,000 pesos.Groceries 3,000 -5,000 .The rest misc. expenses
Regarding the Drinking Promo at the Venue,I think there is a time limit,Since its like from 5PM to 9PM.Cheers

GoodEnough and other Davao guys,

I will be arriving in Davao this coming Oct. 18 Wed.

I may be checking in Casa Leticia or other similar hotel.

I plan to monger and also scuba dive. I wonder if we could get together for a drink, ill treat you. We could also go bar hopping?

I also need a dive buddy, would you be available? Pls. pm me your contact tel no. or email me at: [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]

So I can get in touch with you when I am there.

Thanks

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She spends more money on food than rent? Was that a typo?

Maybe I'm a simple guy but I would have trouble spending that much money on food in the Philippines. Of course if you are taking a local tribe out for the slow roast lechon, I guess it's possible.

[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Unfortunately She doesnt save anything.But for what it its worth here is her breakdown.Rent 4,000 pesos.Eating out daily 5,000,-6,000 pesos,Maids Salary 1,500 pesos,Laundry woman 500 pesos,Going out drinks cost 2,000 -2,500 pesos,Clothes 5,000 pesos.Groceries 3,000 -5,000 .The rest misc. expenses
Regarding the Drinking Promo at the Venue,I think there is a time limit,Since its like from 5PM to 9PM.Cheers[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man]She spends more money on food than rent? Was that a typo?

Maybe I'm a simple guy but I would have trouble spending that much money on food in the Philippines. Of course if you are taking a local tribe out for the slow roast lechon, I guess it's possible.[/QUOTE]Remember She is only eating Breakfast at home,So the restaurant meals are costing her around 80-120 pesos per meal 2 times a day.so 30 times 2 times 100 pesos is about 6000 pesos.Remember She is a Manila girl who used to live and work in Makati,So she is not a simple provincial girl but a well travelled fashionista.Tiger 1 has met her in HK and GE has met her during the Asean Tourism Forum.They will confirm she is into eating well.apartment is about 70-80 square meters.

On a personal note,I will be in Davao next week to be a guest speaker for the Davao Association of Travel Agents and meet with the owners of the hotel I MAY invest in.GE Thanks for the endorsement to the owners relatives.If anybody is interested in further information on Davao Hotels Drop me a line Cheers

[QUOTE=Midas Touch]GoodEnough and other Davao guys,

I will be arriving in Davao this coming Oct. 18 Wed.

I may be checking in Casa Leticia or other similar hotel.

I plan to monger and also scuba dive. I wonder if we could get together for a drink, ill treat you. We could also go bar hopping?

I also need a dive buddy, would you be available? Pls. pm me your contact tel no. or email me at: [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]

So I can get in touch with you when I am there.

Thanks

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I tried to PM you with the information, but got a message that you have chosen not to receive PMs, and email addresses are not permitted on the forum, so I don't have yours, so I don't know how to establish personal contact.

Three of the dive shops here arrange dives just about every week end. Wind and Wave and Carabao dive shops have their own boats, and weather permitting, typically organize dives for Saturdays. Pro Dive rents available boats and it organizes both Saturday and Sunday dives. If you don't have your own gear, any of them will rent you whatever you need. Wind and Wave is the only shop that fills nitrox tanks if you're interested in a nitrox dive. Carabao is the dive shop from which I buy all my gear. The phone number is: 082-300-1092 and you can ask to speak to either Ray or Dick.

I may be in Singapore the week end that you plan to be here, but if not, I will probably be diving that Saturday or Sunday.

:D

GE

GoodEnough,

Thanks for your response.

I spoke to Dick of Carabao and inquired about the diving.

I might dive Paradise Island, since it will be a thursday diving and the boats may not be available.

Dick quoted me P750 for one dive, equipment included.

I've been researching the internet about Davao.

I'd like to ask you some information you may know about the following places ...

1. How is the Royal Manadaya Hotel compared to casa leticia - price? is it any good? What other hotel can you suggest as nice but cheaper than Casa Leticia?

2. Are these places good to meet gorgeous women for sex ... any other bar suggestions?

Shangrila KTV (Dakudao Ave near the cor. of R. Castillo)
Karokkan KTV (Victoria Plaza Compound)
Frankie's KTV (Nova Tierra)
Fountain Place -ledge bar (Dacudao Avenue in Agdao, across Shangrila KTV)
Danny's Bar (back of ponciano fruitstand..in madraso compound)
Option: Take taxi to Cabaguio St, options to meet women, where?

3. Are these restaurants good? Can you recommend some other restaurants?

AH FAT Restaurant (Victoria Plaza Compound) maybe the best in Davao, try their crabs

Jack's Ridge Rest. - another good place for seafoods, nice ambiance
Picobello Rest. - (5th flr , Gaisano Southmall) best rest. for pizza

I'll be in Davao on Oct. 18, early evening time, i hope to meet you.

Just in case you are still in Davao, you can call me so that we can meet.

Can you show me Ground Zero, Hotlegs, Henny's, etc.? Thanks.

My cell number in the Philippines and Davao will be Tel. 0915-784-4590

Restaurants Try Claudes at the Paseo the Habana Compond at 29 Rizal street,It s run by Chef Claude and his daughter Celina.The onion soup and Cheese plate are supposed to be good,Beside is Henny s place called De Bonte Koe.It is famous for steaks and Ribs.
Meeting Normal Girls at Drinking Spots
Try the following The Venue located at Quirino avenue or Matina Town Square located along Macarthur Highway
Have a great time in Davao City

[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Restaurants Try Claudes at the Paseo the Habana Compond at 29 Rizal street,It s run by Chef Claude and his daughter Celina.The onion soup and Cheese plate are supposed to be good,Beside is Henny s place called De Bonte Koe.It is famous for steaks and Ribs.

Meeting Normal Girls at Drinking Spots.

Try the following The Venue located at Quirino avenue or Matina Town Square located along Macarthur Highway.

Have a great time in Davao City[/QUOTE]Thanks so much Cebu Local, you have given me other options to explore.

I'll visit the places you mentioned. If you happen to be in Davao by that time I'm there, pls. Give me a call so we can get together. I'll buy you a couple rounds of beer and pulutan. I'm a pinoy balikbayan. Last June 2006, I was in Cebu for 4 days. I had good luck in Jaguar KTV, a pretty girl joining me in bed at Eddie's Hotel. I liked Harem too, I think this place has the best young and pretty girls in Cebu. I almost got a gorgeous girl whom I vip roomed in Harem join me in the hotel, but I just run out of time, I had to go back to manila. Thanks once again.

By the way when it comes to Quezon City night life, that is my territory and I practically know all the places there, since I have a condo along west ave, qc.

[QUOTE=Midas Touch]GoodEnough,

Thanks for your response.

I spoke to Dick of Carabao and inquired about the diving.

I might dive Paradise Island, since it will be a thursday diving and the boats may not be available.

Dick quoted me P750 for one dive, equipment included.

I've been researching the internet about Davao.

I'd like to ask you some information you may know about the following places ...

1. How is the Royal Manadaya Hotel compared to casa leticia - price? is it any good? What other hotel can you suggest as nice but cheaper than Casa Leticia?

2. Are these places good to meet gorgeous women for sex ... any other bar suggestions?

Shangrila KTV (Dakudao Ave near the cor. of R. Castillo)
Karokkan KTV (Victoria Plaza Compound)
Frankie's KTV (Nova Tierra)
Fountain Place -ledge bar (Dacudao Avenue in Agdao, across Shangrila KTV)
Danny's Bar (back of ponciano fruitstand..in madraso compound)
Option: Take taxi to Cabaguio St, options to meet women, where?

3. Are these restaurants good? Can you recommend some other restaurants?

AH FAT Restaurant (Victoria Plaza Compound) maybe the best in Davao, try their crabs

Jack's Ridge Rest. - another good place for seafoods, nice ambiance
Picobello Rest. - (5th flr , Gaisano Southmall) best rest. for pizza

I'll be in Davao on Oct. 18, early evening time, i hope to meet you.

Just in case you are still in Davao, you can call me so that we can meet.

Can you show me Ground Zero, Hotlegs, Henny's, etc.? Thanks.

My cell number in the Philippines and Davao will be Tel. 0915-784-4590[/QUOTE]

Midas asks a lot of questions, and, since the answers may be of interest to others, I'll try to respond in the hopes that this will not get bounced because of the "No Crosstalk Rule."

1. Royal Mandaya vs. Casa Leticia - In my opinion Casa Leticia is far superior. The Royal Mandaya is a little bit far from the center of town and, mroe importantly, has been poorly maintained. It's quite a large hotel, and it has a casino, but it's not much of a place. Rather seedy and the service is poor.

2. Diving - I'm going to dive off Paradise Island tomorrow. It's an easy beach dive, and, though you won't see as much as you would on a boat dive off of Talakud Island, it's not bad. You can get to Paradise on a boat from a well-known departure dock to which any taxi driver can take you and it's about a ten minute ride. I think there's a dive shop from which you can purchase air, or you can rent a tank or two from Dick and take it on the boat. That's what I'm going to do. The only problem with Paradise is that there can be a reasonably strong current about 30 meters off the beach. The last time I dove there, the current carried me about 200 meters beyond Paradise and it I had to go back down under the current to get back. This might not happen all of the time however,

3. Gorgeous women for sex - In the years that I've lived here, I think I've been to two KTVs, so I cannot help you much there. All of the KTVs I'm sure, have women available, as do the two pick-up bars--Moonlight and Roman Plaza--on Cabaggio. Probably the best of the p4p bars is Hot Legs II on San Pedro St though some prefer Hot Legs I directly across the street from the Royal Mandaya. There are lots and lots of p4p places on and around Rizal St. as well and you will have no problem finding a dozen of them.

4. Restaurants - Unfortunately, there are no really good Chinese Restaurants in Davao. Ah Fat's is just okay, as is the much more expensive Chinese restaurant in the Marco Polo. Jack's Ridge is local food which I do not like, and I never eat there. It's very cheap however, but if you do not have a car, it's quite far to go in a taxi. Picobello for Italian food is fair, but I think La Toscana on Quirino is much better and it's less expensive. De Bonte Koe (Henny's) and Cafe de Ville (Claude's) are both on Rizal St. and only about 20 meters from each other. Claude serves very standard French bistro food, which would be average by Parisian standards but passes for haute cuisine here. It's a bit overpriced, but not outrageous, and Claude has without doubt, the best selection of wine of any restaurant in Davao. Henny's has the best steaks and other beef in town, a much nicer atmosphere, and he's just opened a Spanish restaurant across the courtyard, called El Toro. It's where we eat most of the time. Henny is also the most highly qualified dive instructor in Davao, and perhaps the Philippines, and is a great one to talk to about dive spots here.

I may be in Davao on the 18th but there's a chance I'll have to go to Singapore on the 17th. I will let you know. Don't worry about coming here with a long list of places to go for various purposes. If you go to Henny's and ask him your questions, I'm sure he would be glad to help, as would any of the expats who hang out there, as many of us do.

Hope this answers at least most of the questions.

:D

GE

GoodEnough,

Thanks again for answering my questions and supplying great info on Davao. I have taken notes and will probably do a lot of bar hopping in Davao to cover as much as possible.

Yes, skip it. Main areas look good but hallways leading to the rooms and the rooms themselves are inferior to Apo View (poorly maintained, a little dirty).

Midas asked for a cheaper hotel. GE has, in the past, suggested Galleria. I was shown a great room there, made a reservation, and went back the next day...only to be shown a room that had a strong mildew smell. Give it a try. They have a small pool in their courtyard.

Jack's Ridge is indeed a nice place to create a nice mood. WHen I took a taxi there, with a date, we passed by a place that looked interesting. I thought, hey, I should go there sometime...looks like fun. I asked my date, what's that. The answer was..."Matina Town Square". I've never been there. Maybe CL or GE could give more details.

X

GE,

Can you give a rough description of where Paradise Island is? I don't have a map in front of me (not yet) but I'm assuming it's near Samal Island.

If I'm not mistaken, the nearest beach on Samal Island (5-10 min across the channel from Davao city) is Paradise beach.

It's been a while, so maybe I'm mistaken.

I've attached a picture taken at that beach. Behind the girl you can see a concrete dock. At first, I thought these were a horrible addition to the beach. But they are necessary, because the current is quite strong. While snorkeling, I learned quite quickly to walk upstream on the beach enter the water and then swim along the current until I reached the other end...where the next concrete dock is. Then walk back to where the girl was waiting...(at one point, her and the "chaperone" were being entertained by the local boys). From where I was, I could see several of these concrete docks.

X

I'm not sure, but I don't think that Paradise is part of Samal. It's a small island that's separate. At least, I think so, but I don't have a map in front of me so I cannot be sure. Also the boats that go to Samal leave from Santa Ana wharf, whereas Paradise has its own departure area.

Matina Town Square, the one time I was there, looks to me like it's inhabited mainly by young adolescents, too young to interest most of the guys here. It looked to me that it was strictly a girlfriend-boyfriend kind of place. A better alternative might be the Auto Mall, which I just discovered recently although its been here for a while. It's a concrete corridor, blocked to traffic, with about 15 or 20 bars, with outdoor dining, lining both sides of the corridor. On Saturday nights, it's jammed with couples and with singles. It's probably a great place to pick up young (but legal) normal girls. I don't think the pros go anywhere near it.

:D

GE

It's part of Samal Island. You take a taxi towards the airport to catch a boat to it. It is a 5 minute boat ride (P15? fare) and a small fee to enter the resort, plus a "corkage fee" for any beverages you bring. They sell food and drink there and there are a few rooms to rent overnight (P1,000 for an AC room in 2003). Been there a few times, I was the sponsor of the trip, maybe 10 people each time, no big cost, good time. My friend said to arrive at 6 AM and leave at 10:30 AM, before it got "too hot" and then we went to church up near Jack's Ridge.

[QUOTE=X Man]Midas asked for a cheaper hotel. GE has, in the past, suggested Galleria. I was shown a great room there, made a reservation, and went back the next day...only to be shown a room that had a strong mildew smell. Give it a try. They have a small pool in their courtyard.

Jack's Ridge is indeed a nice place to create a nice mood. WHen I took a taxi there, with a date, we passed by a place that looked interesting. I thought, hey, I should go there sometime...looks like fun. I asked my date, what's that. The answer was..."Matina Town Square". I've never been there. Maybe CL or GE could give more details.

X[/QUOTE]Basically It is an entertainment complex with a mix of bars,restaurants and shops located along Macarthur highway.It attracts a younger crowd But not all teenagers.Thinks teens, 20s with a sprinkiling of 30 s

Harvey is correct. The beach I mentioned earlier is in fact named Paradise Island. There is some reasonable snorkeling there, but this is probably not a good place for diving.

The current is very strong there, as I said earlier. Looking at my map, Paradise Island (the beach area on Samal Island) is at the narrowest point in the Pakiputan Strait which is between Davao city and Samal island.

This seems to be where the beach resorts are clustered.

Has anyone been to the beaches north of this area? Holy Cross / Budyong / Villarica?

I can't find any Paradise Island (the island) anywhere in the vicinity of Samal Island.

I'd like to explore Samal a bit...I just wish I had more time and the appropriate "tour guide".

Thank you for the info about Matina. Where is the Auto Mall?

Looks like my flight has been confirmed. MLA on Dec 18, Cebu Bohol for Christmas, Davao for New Year's. GE, CL, I'll give you a call and maybe we can hook up.

X

Paradise Island is indeed located on Samal Island, this place is one of the closest points between Davao (SASA wharf) and Samal Island. They have their own ferry boat that dock near Sasa Wharf, Paradise is crowded on the weekends. You may want to explore Samal Island by going to the main wharf
Sta Ana and trying to get a ferry boat to Pena Plata, as of six months ago the ferry was running sporadically. Pena Plata is more centrally located for visiting some of the Samal attrachtions like the falls and the Hiking trails. HOWEVE A MAJOR WORD OF CAUTION!!!!!

There are FEW modes of transportation on Samal. NO TAXI'S and only a few Jeepneys that stay close to the central wharf. Your best bet is to hire a trisykad and prepare for the bumpy, dusty ride.

My suggestion is that if you want a bit more privacy is to checkout Telikud Island. They did have a ferry boat but it was very erratic. Best way to get there by private Banca (Probably charge you P3500) Tell the capt you want to spend the day at Isla Rita this is a small resort facing Samal. Great place to take that special girl (and her family) if you have to, all you Macho guys can try swimming the channel between the two islands or snorkeling which is great just twenty meters offshore. Some old Jap gun turret ruins on the south side of Telikud are fun to explore.

[QUOTE=X Man]Harvey is correct. The beach I mentioned earlier is in fact named Paradise Island. There is some reasonable snorkeling there, but this is probably not a good place for diving.

The current is very strong there, as I said earlier. Looking at my map, Paradise Island (the beach area on Samal Island) is at the narrowest point in the Pakiputan Strait which is between Davao city and Samal island.

This seems to be where the beach resorts are clustered.

Has anyone been to the beaches north of this area? Holy Cross / Budyong / Villarica?

I can't find any Paradise Island (the island) anywhere in the vicinity of Samal Island.

I'd like to explore Samal a bit...I just wish I had more time and the appropriate "tour guide".

Thank you for the info about Matina. Where is the Auto Mall?

Looks like my flight has been confirmed. MLA on Dec 18, Cebu Bohol for Christmas, Davao for New Year's. GE, CL, I'll give you a call and maybe we can hook up.

X[/QUOTE]Paradise Island Resort is located in Barangay Limao,Samal. Island.The Matina Town square is styled after a Singapore Hawker Center with Restos,Bars and Shops,A tent with wall climbing,a jazz bar,a park and a food court with live music.Hope this helps

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]

As to the cost of living in your pension, it's certainly possible here in Davao. There are houses available, in decent neighborhoods, for as little as $100 a month...

As I said before, as have many others, Mindanao, at least in the cities where you would live, is totally safe. Davao, Zamboanga, and Cagayan de Oro are all safer than Manila and I've never heard of any violence directed at any foreigner in any of these places...

GE[/QUOTE]Like Bilbo I've been scouting out an overseas retirement home. I hate the snow. I've made a few trips to Indonesia, but have yet to visit the Philippines.

One item not mentioned that would certainly affect any retiree is the matter of medical insurance and the need for decent local health services. How does this pan out in Davao or the Philippines in general?

I'm sure that one can rent an apartment for $100 per month, but what kind of security is one afforded? Is CDO or Davao large enough to have a gated middle class community. Perhaps this question is better asked elsewhere, but this forum has been very informative.

Regards,

[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Paradise Island is indeed located on Samal Island, this place is one of the closest points between Davao (SASA wharf) and Samal Island. They have their own ferry boat that dock near Sasa Wharf, Paradise is crowded on the weekends. You may want to explore Samal Island by going to the main wharf
Sta Ana and trying to get a ferry boat to Pena Plata, as of six months ago the ferry was running sporadically. Pena Plata is more centrally located for visiting some of the Samal attrachtions like the falls and the Hiking trails. HOWEVE A MAJOR WORD OF CAUTION!!!!!

There are FEW modes of transportation on Samal. NO TAXI'S and only a few Jeepneys that stay close to the central wharf. Your best bet is to hire a trisykad and prepare for the bumpy, dusty ride.

My suggestion is that if you want a bit more privacy is to checkout Telikud Island. They did have a ferry boat but it was very erratic. Best way to get there by private Banca (Probably charge you P3500) Tell the capt you want to spend the day at Isla Rita this is a small resort facing Samal. Great place to take that special girl (and her family) if you have to, all you Macho guys can try swimming the channel between the two islands or snorkeling which is great just twenty meters offshore. Some old Jap gun turret ruins on the south side of Telikud are fun to explore.[/QUOTE]

I stand corrected. Paraside is indeed part of Samal, more or less directly East of the Grand Regal Hotel. I went diving there today, and it was a nice, long, if somewhat shallow dive. There were abundant small tropicals and some nice coral formations, none of them deeper than 12-13 meters. There's a new diving area at the head of the pier as you dock, and you can store all of your gear there until you're ready to use it. The boat ride to the island is Php10 and the resort area was fairly full of large family groups with very few expats.

As X Man said, there can be strong current, particularly at low tide. However, the current diminishes as the tide rises between noon and 2 in the afternoon. This is the best time to dive or snorkel. I arrived at Paradise at about 11:30 and there was a large sign warning of the strong current. We waited ot dive until about 2 and the current was very mild and no problem at all.

The price of renting a private banca is now Php5,000-Php5,500 to go to Telikud, but most bancas accmmodate 15-20 people so if you can find people with whom to share the cost of the day it's not too bad. The diving off of Telikud is nicer, and much deeper than Paradise. There's a lovely spot called Dizon Wall which is a large, deep coral formation that starts at about 10 meters and goes down to about 30. We've seen leopard rays there and a large variety of eels and sea snakes, in addition to the usual assortment of fish. The Coral Garden, which is also just off Telikud, used to be wonderful, but has been so decimated by dynamite fishing and cyanide fishing, that large portions of it have been reduced to rubble.

As Spam Hog said, there's little transportation. However, you can take your car/bike across on a barge and riding the motorcycle through the interior of the island is quite a lot of fun. Those who do so will become instant tourist attractions as those who live in the interior villages do not get to see many foreigners.

The Auto Mall is located on the same street as the Venue. If you comtinue up that street away from the Marco Polo, you will run into crowds of people and long lines of cars waiting to park. Just follow the crowds and you will find it if you're looking during the week end.

:D

GE

Basically I had a short business trip to Davao to be a guest speaker for some Davao travel agents and look at some small hotels to invest in.So I did not get a chance to monger much,I visited Hot Legs 1 and Sad to say,IMHO the girls looked like recycled Gaisano sales girls.mostly 5-6 s.This is the one located infront of the Grand Regal Hotel.Following GE s advice,I went to Hot Legs 2 on San Pedro street and I am happy to say It was like night and day Solid 7 s and 8 s.Yes they do a great candle dance,though the area around Hot Legs 2 looks seedier then that of Hot Legs 1.
Regarding Restaurants,The travel agents brought me to Ah Fat for a great seafood lunch.Yes this is one of the best Chinese food in davao.If you like Native Sukat Sili at the venue was also great.I also had a great meal at Claudes,But Henny was not in.They do French bistro type food which is a novelty in Davao.Until my next trip to Davao,I dont have much to report for a short trip.But I may have picked up some freebie leads which I will pursue next trip.

[QUOTE=John Dust]Like Bilbo I've been scouting out an overseas retirement home. I hate the snow. I've made a few trips to Indonesia, but have yet to visit the Philippines.

One item not mentioned that would certainly affect any retiree is the matter of medical insurance and the need for decent local health services. How does this pan out in Davao or the Philippines in general?

I'm sure that one can rent an apartment for $100 per month, but what kind of security is one afforded? Is CDO or Davao large enough to have a gated middle class community. Perhaps this question is better asked elsewhere, but this forum has been very informative.

Regards,[/QUOTE]


I gave a breakdown of living expenses in Davao, CDO and Cebu for some of the brethern under "General Info".

Medical expenses is one thing I left out but it is an important thing for us "senior citizens" to consider. Frankly you will find the medical expenses here cheaper than the US by far, HOWEVER, you will find the qwuality somewhat...well...lacking. I was hospitalized in Davao for kidneys stones about four years ago. I think for treatment and all xrays and an overnight stay was US 600. The best hospital in the PI is St Lukes in Manila.

There is a US Military hospital somewhere near Subic, got to be retired US Govt and Military to be treated there.

If you marry a FIlipina she can put you on "Phil health" as her dependant, but most things here are so cheap I usually just pay cash for it. Dentitstry is VERY in expensive like 10 bux to have a tooth pulled.

Good luck.

Spamhog

Davao has three large gated communities that are solidly upper middle class and extremely safe. They're also probably the most secure places to live in the city. However, there are lots of other choices, all of them less expensive and also safe.

I think, and it's just a personal opinion, that the quality of medical care is very sub standard, though it's cheap and there are lots of doctors and lots of hospitals. In April, I developed a severe bone infection in my foot, was dissatisfied with the treatment I received in Davao, and went to the famous St. Lukes in Manila where the diagnostic treatment was no better. Finally, after being incapacitated for about six weeks, I went to Singapore, where it took a Mayo Clinic-trained orthopedic surgeon about ten minutes to diagnose the infection, and a Harvard-trained infectious disease specialist prescribed perfect treatment, though I did have to remain in country for almost a month until the doctors were satisfied that it was all under control. Not only did the Singapore hospital readily accept my US insurance, but the hospital itself was state-of-the-art. There's simply no comparison. US health insurance is not accepted in Davao, which, as Spam Hog said, is not a problem, since it's also so cheap you can pay in cash and then get reimbursed by your insurance company.

Strangely, the quality of dentistry in Davao is excellent. There are lots of dentists who have gotten part of their graduate training in the US, Australia or the UK, excellent equipment, and a standard that's at least the equivalent of the United States. I just had four caps re-done for less than $250, and my wife just had an impacted wisdom tooth removed, ten cavities treated, and her teeth cleaned for $120, and this is one of the most expensive (and one of the best) dentists in Davao. Again, they don't take US insurance, but I do get reimbursed by my US-based insurance company.

:D

GE

Thanks for the med update GE.

Since I need a tooth capped, time is a factor. Since I arrive in MLA and depart from MLA this is my best option.

BTW, I got a good pair of bifocal lens glasses made in Davao, which I'm wearing at this moment. The optometrist was recommended by a friend of GE that I met at Bonte de Koe. I suppose you could do this in Manila or Cebu as well.

I regularly visit the Philippines. If you are coming from a relatively expensive developed coutry (as I am) you can save money on clothes, glasses and rum. Rum tastes a bit like cough syrup, but old drunkards like me don't mind so much.

I suppose a tailored suit would come cheap too, but it's been a long time since I had to wear one of those.

X

There's a dentist (actually a dentist husband and wife) that I've been going to in Cebu for the past couple of years. They're also recommended in one of the larger expat online forums. I'm not sure if I can post their contact info here, so PM me for details (soon since I'm disappearing onto a dive boat in Fiji for a week)

Clothes are actually cheaper in HK in many instances. One of the front desk gals at Marriott (my favorite) would travel with her sister 2X a year to HK to buy stock to resell in RP, avoiding duty. If you go to Giordano in HK and also in Cebu, prices are way cheaper in HK.

I did find "no name" cargo shorts/pants in SM Cebu that were quite cheap, P297 was the cheapest, I think. Also attended San Carlos City's Fiesta in 2000 and my friend negotiated a good price from some vendors on clothes. Interesting to watch her bargain.

HK is also the place to have suits made, have had 3 made there and a couple of dozen dress shirts. I hope next trip we can go US/HK/RP an spend a few days there.

Harvey,

The suits I got made in HK were good. However, a better idea is often to get a good tailor and get him to alter top of the range off the rack gear you buy. That way, you are guaranteeed quality and you have a good idea of what you see is what you get.

[QUOTE=X Man]Thanks for the med update GE.

Since I need a tooth capped, time is a factor. Since I arrive in MLA and depart from MLA this is my best option.

BTW, I got a good pair of bifocal lens glasses made in Davao, which I'm wearing at this moment. The optometrist was recommended by a friend of GE that I met at Bonte de Koe. I suppose you could do this in Manila or Cebu as well.

I regularly visit the Philippines. If you are coming from a relatively expensive developed coutry (as I am) you can save money on clothes, glasses and rum. Rum tastes a bit like cough syrup, but old drunkards like me don't mind so much.

I suppose a tailored suit would come cheap too, but it's been a long time since I had to wear one of those.

X[/QUOTE]




X MAN; I go to two different dentists here, one is excellent, just had some detal done on Mrs spamhog (Braces) he yanked one for me also. Have another female dentist that is Very good and has several "foreigner" patients.
Both of them are located VERY close to Robinsons at Osmena circle. Let me know if your interested and I'll give you more, directions number etc. via private email.


SUITS:

You can have relatively cheap clothing made in Davao. Very close to APO Hotel there is an excellent tailor (flaming faggot too but who cares) very large shop and a variety of Materials, including pin stripes he specializes in Barongs for your wedding but he produces a fairly nice western style suit, pants etc. Cant remember his name but come out of Apo main entrance, hang a left and another left, go three/four doors down and the guys shop is on the left fairly, classy place. Directly across the street from his shop is another Byot (Bamba Limon)'s shop, this flamer does ladies wedding gowns.

Recently checked out the suits when in Hong Kong last week, decided the Indian tailors there wanted more than the Indian Tailors in Bangkok. Two years ago the Indians who run a shop in front of the Ambassador Hotel had a special on for Two (2) western made suits plus a collared shirt for $199 US. They did a great job too.


Regards Spamhog

I think the tailor about which Spam Hog is speaking is Chardin. The place is excellent, and we've had some stuff made there. The quality was outstanding and the selection of cloth was broad. This is one of the most expensive tailor shops in Davao, but it's got one of the largest selections in town.

With the start of the regular flights between Davao and Korea,Hong Kong and Davao and Macao and Davao,I believe the city is going to have finally begun to realize its full potential.I am currently hosting a Davao Delegation of Travel people on a tour around Manila,Cavite and Laguna.I think that exchanges are very important for understanding.
Bobby Teo the Assistant City Administrator of Davao told me though of some stories of how Mayor Duterte wants foriegners to behave in his city.A Korean beat up a caddy,then left.The caddy reported the incident to Mayor Duterte and Mayor Duterte proceeded to the Korean s Hotel and had him dragged from his room and Mayor Duterte beat the crap out of the Korean.In a similiar incident a Korean hit his 10 year old son in the face at the golf course with a golf club.When he heard about it,Mayor Duterte Had the Korean picked up and gave him 3-4 strokes with a 9 iron before having him deported.He explained that while Mayor Duterte protects Foriegners He expects them to behave in his city.

Things are looking up in Davao though,that I have decided to invest in a small hotel in the city.Small world though,The owner s close relative works with GE.I guess I will be going to Davao regularly with this developments.It is laid back compared to my former home Cebu,Since while I still have businesses there,I have relocated to Manila since I go to China monthly now and the connections are better there to China.combining that with an ambitous Chinese fiance I found Cebu becoming too small for me not with investments all over the PI and increasingly China.Her Father my Future Father in law a middle level official in the Chinese Goverment arranged for me to become the GSA of one of the Chinese Carriers that will fly between Greater China and Clark.From there He has opened a whole lot of future deals in AirFreight,Tours etc.The "connections"really help.He used to be in Shanghai but has now been transfered to Guangdong province.Anyway enough story telling But things are looking up for Davao,Visit it soon before it changes too much.

[QUOTE=Cebu Local]With the start of the regular flights between Davao and Korea,Hong Kong and Davao and Macao and Davao,I believe the city is going to have finally begun to realize its full potential.I am currently hosting a Davao Delegation of Travel people on a tour around Manila,Cavite and Laguna.I think that exchanges are very important for understanding.
Bobby Teo the Assistant City Administrator of Davao told me though of some stories of how Mayor Duterte wants foriegners to behave in his city.A Korean beat up a caddy,then left.The caddy reported the incident to Mayor Duterte and Mayor Duterte proceeded to the Korean s Hotel and had him dragged from his room and Mayor Duterte beat the crap out of the Korean.In a similiar incident a Korean hit his 10 year old son in the face at the golf course with a golf club.When he heard about it,Mayor Duterte Had the Korean picked up and gave him 3-4 strokes with a 9 iron before having him deported.He explained that while Mayor Duterte protects Foriegners He expects them to behave in his city.

Things are looking up in Davao though,that I have decided to invest in a small hotel in the city.Small world though,The owner s close relative works with GE.I guess I will be going to Davao regularly with this developments.It is laid back compared to my former home Cebu,Since while I still have businesses there,I have relocated to Manila since I go to China monthly now and the connections are better there to China.combining that with an ambitous Chinese fiance I found Cebu becoming too small for me not with investments all over the PI and increasingly China.Her Father my Future Father in law a middle level official in the Chinese Goverment arranged for me to become the GSA of one of the Chinese Carriers that will fly between Greater China and Clark.From there He has opened a whole lot of future deals in AirFreight,Tours etc.The "connections"really help.He used to be in Shanghai but has now been transfered to Guangdong province.Anyway enough story telling But things are looking up for Davao,Visit it soon before it changes too much.[/QUOTE]


I'm glad that commerce in Davao has so many prospects and I think the international flights will certainly help. I know "security" and safety is so much an issue to investors but to those of us who have lived or visited there it really is a non issue.

Of course Duterte is the prime reason for it, he has stated time and again he will not tolerate foriegners or legitimate business men being hassled in any way. However, it seems many try to take advantage of this priveledge.

Regarding the recent examples by Koreans I'm sorry to say my fellow Americans are the worst, here are some of the worst cases to my recollection:

The much talked about " David Meiring" incident a few years back, this con man who ran phony treasure schemes blew himself up in a Davao Hotel and lost his leg. He hired some shady characters to pose as FBI agents and hustle him out of the Phils. Hizzoner went nuts over this and tried to have him extradited back from Texas where the guy was living under and assumed name.

The two brain trust "black Muslims" from Chicago who came to town much touting their aide and assistance to MILF militants and esposing their bomb making skills. These Idiots displaying some un muslim like conduct, got into a row in a Davao bar and threatened the owner, a friend of Hizzoner. Im suprised they only got deported rather than a 55 gal drum at the bottom of Davao Gulf.

The dumb ass who chartered a private plane to fly him and his Filipina wife out of the country with more than a million bucks in counterfeit US treasury notes in a plastic gaisano shopping bag.

The list goes on but you get the idea, when in Davao behave, pay your bar bills, dont beat on the working girls or slap your wife around and if you turn combative while drinking stay in your room and pass out.

Regards to all

Spamhog

I received this one today and thought some of you guys might be interested. It's funny how this guy (whom I have never met) has better things to do than hang around a sex board, yet takes the time to write quite a lengthy, somewhat detailed PM. Wonder what his motivation was:

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Kissing Ass and Hype

Hey buddy , just came back to the board , since my August post that is. Not like you , I have better things to do than hang around a sex forum.

Man you kiss ass too much. You are also too much full of hype and bullshit. Please talk frankly and truthfully. You are doing a DIS-SERVICE to all and sundry.

Why you keep kissing ass and keep passing off hype for fact amuses me.

For sure , you do not have my respect , cause of your ass licking ways.

You will be pleased to know that I will tried hard not to read any more of your dribble and your ass licking or your 'leader' (the owner of the ass you kiss) ones on the Davao Board. But I admit it will be hard cause you and your leader are an amusing act.

Why do you kiss ass and feel the need to pass off hype for fact ?

I feel sorry for you , goodbye , I will not bother reading your condescending reply.

Get some balls and start being independent , stop kissing ass and please stop all this hype , you are doing a dis-service to yourself and to all those who read it. You might fool some , but you do not fool me ..... J

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I received this one today and thought some of you guys might be interested. [/QUOTE]

Sounds like this man is downright irked about something.

You don't deserve that kind of commentary.

I have always found you informative.

Obviously the person does not know you,Defenitely a Strange PM.Perhaps the guy cannot distinguish between speaking up for your friends and ass licking.

I can't conceive of how sad the lurker's lives must be for them to criticize regular contributors to the boards. Contributors who provide much useful information and entertainment for us lurkers who haven't had the chance to make it down to Davao for any length of time.

GE is a real treasure to the Davao Board.His posts have always have been informative and well thought out.His posts lead me to explore Davao and eventually set up some operations there.Even though I will never be a member of Team Davao,I will continue to get more involved and established in this Charming City.But I will continue to stay out of the way of the other guy.

Starting Later this year Air Macau will be flying Koreans into Davao.The effect of this influx might be rowdy noisy Koreans at the Drinking Spots.But Like Mayor Duterte says,He will protect the foriegner But We have to behave in his city.Expect Duterte kicking Korean Ass soon.Bobby Teo the head of the Davao City Investment office was in my Makati office today.Davao will have a Airport Microtel as its Airport hotel.He gave me the usual spiel of what a great place Davao is to invest in.But He was preaching to the converted

He and his wife will be my partners for a small travel related business,We will duplicate the Pasalubong center you see beside the airport in Mactan,Cebu on a smaller scale in Davao.I think Filipinos would be willing to pay a little more for one stop present shopping beside the airport.

On a personal note I am working on a possibile freebie who currently works in sales for one of the hotels here.But still weighing the options of that compared to a paybie.She appeares clingy,Will decide next trip

Note to GE: Because of the lack of vetting on this site and the fact that anything to do with sex attracts an undesireable element, EVERY real contributor here has had at least one lowlife scum (who is envious) flame him. Don't let one bad apple spoil the barrel! You have WAY more friends than enemies on this board, whereas your antagonist likely has no friends at all. Just delete his PMs unread or forward them to Jackson.

I urge you NOT to let the ranting of an illiterate octagenarian (read: old fart) drive you off the board. DS was not deterred by his antagonist, nor will I let my cyberstalker stop me from sharing with the community (he may lay low for awhile now-read fight club if interested why).

While I wrote a report on Davao from my first visit back in 1994, I did not post it here (not sure Atta had even started this site back them). You and DS certainly deserve the credit (and the condemnation LOL!) for putting Davao on the ISG! I respectfully request that you keep posting Sir, as if the losers drive the contrubtors away there will be nothing left worth reading here.

IMHO the arrival of the Koreans (influx of Japanese will be next) will cause an increase in prices, but also an increase in mongering options. Such is progress.

CL: Good luck with your venture at Davao Airport. People WILL pay for convenience (of shopping at the airport); how do you think Changi pays its operating costs (it is NOT just from landing fees or passenger service charges!)?

[QUOTE=Surfer]Note to GE: Because of the lack of vetting on this site and the fact that anything to do with sex attracts an undesireable element, EVERY real contributor here has had at least one lowlife scum (who is envious) flame him. Don't let one bad apple spoil the barrel! You have WAY more friends than enemies on this board, whereas your antagonist likely has no friends at all. Just delete his PMs unread or forward them to Jackson.

I urge you NOT to let the ranting of an illiterate octagenarian (read: old fart) drive you off the board. DS was not deterred by his antagonist, nor will I let my cyberstalker stop me from sharing with the community (he may lay low for awhile now-read fight club if interested why).

While I wrote a report on Davao from my first visit back in 1994, I did not post it here (not sure Atta had even started this site back them). You and DS certainly deserve the credit (and the condemnation LOL!) for putting Davao on the ISG! I respectfully request that you keep posting Sir, as if the losers drive the contrubtors away there will be nothing left worth reading here.

IMHO the arrival of the Koreans (influx of Japanese will be next) will cause an increase in prices, but also an increase in mongering options. Such is progress.

CL: Good luck with your venture at Davao Airport. People WILL pay for convenience (of shopping at the airport); how do you think Changi pays its operating costs (it is NOT just from landing fees or passenger service charges!)?[/QUOTE]Yes the board needs all kinds of contributors,Some people to post FR s on pussy hunting,Others like me to post more general Info on Hotels,Airlines etc.Others on Bars,restaurants etc.We should never let the Trolls win.To clarify Why I dont post Philippine FR s.Personally I am CUTTING BACK on my mongering,Because I have a deal with my Chinese Fiance.I will be faithful as long as she is available in country But She will "understand" male needs if I am away on long business trips.But since She is now here in the PI,I guess no more Philippine mongering for me But China,Macao,LOS is a different story.......

Dragon Slayer: If I treat a wench to a sandwich (= free + food), does that count? Or are all three needed? Also, how does one convince a lady one is rich, and why should one? Also, should one chase hungry gold diggers looking for freebies? If there were 100 rich winos at this gig, how many wenches could be expected?

Would a better poliocy be to drift around the malls and Rizal St and look for a nice cuties. (poor but honest?). There are some real stunning waitresses in in cheap cafes in Davao, jobs being at a premium.

Also, why sohuld Davao angels wtih Apo-ian racks have to resort to yahoo chat or prawn sandwich freebies?

On a side note: I was looking at the latest football rankings. England is in fifth place but the Philippines is wayyyyyy down near the bottom with such stalwarts as the Gilbert & Ellis Islands. Are Davao chicks passionate about anything expect freebies and rich men, both of which strike me as boring.

Martians

ps: our space ship should land in Davao and CDO in the next 10 days. Enquiring aliens need to know. We do not value wine or polite chit chat on Mars. We like sexy babes who cut to the chase and are loyal to their man. We also like Jack's Ridge, except for the mosquitoes.

I certainly hope GE is not driven away but something so ludicrous as an off color PM from a moron. There have been a few idiots and detractors on these boards and the best policy is to ignore them and laugh at them for when it is all said and done what can they do? Nothing, what are they to our individual lives? Nothing but a joke. PM threatening messages to somebody, how impotent and utterly pathetic! Of course that is what happens when your stuck in your musty cramped room in your smelly low rent apartment, wishing to hell you could be in the PI banging lovely ladies instead of getting ready for the night shift in your janitorial duties and embittered in your lot in life.

On a brighter side I know of a lot of Koreans already in Davao, they have their own clubs, night clubs and KTV's etc, just like the Japanese, (Matina) so it is doubtfull they will mix all that much. Most of them around Cebu behave even when a little drunk. The formerly famous mongering hole (the sunflower) is now owned by Koreans and naturally one sees more of them in there, girls as well as guys. Also this presents new monegering possibilities in itself. Korean girls like to fool around as much as anyone else.

I know of a certain bald headed diving instructor in Davao (who shall remain nameless, he he he) who has cut a swath through the Korean female population.

Regards

Spamhog

Hmm, that may be too much information.

Nevertheless, Koreans and Japanese tend to have conformist, heirarchial societies (teachers have power). Lots of social rules and lots of tsking if you aren't conforming. These folks can really let loose when they are on holiday (or when drinking) and somewhat free of their shackles.

It's good to hear that some bald guy is taking advantage of the situation.

X

PS: why is Cebu Sunflower a "formerly famous mongering hole"?

[QUOTE=Spam Hog]The formerly famous mongering hole (the sunflower) is now owned by Koreans and naturally one sees more of them in there, girls as well as guys. Also this presents new monegering possibilities in itself. Korean girls like to fool around as much as anyone else.

I know of a certain bald headed GUY in Davao (who shall remain nameless, he he he) who has cut a swath through the Korean female population.
[/QUOTE]

I will be staying in Davao from November 25, 2006 until January 1, 2007 and i am looking for a good dentist to work on my teeth. I need 2 crowns and several cavities to be filled. If anyone can recommend a good dentist i would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

GE, Keep posting


Enricos

Thanks to those who wrote in. It wasn't so much that guy whose PM I posted that bothered me. It was mainly some stuff that's happened off of this board and the details aren't important.

I've been in Manila for two of the last three weeks, and I haven't been out much here as I was just too tired from work. Tonight however, we decided to go out with someone from my office and went to Cafe de Ville (Claude's place). This is the first time I've eaten there in about a year, during which time Claude has stopped cooking for medical reasons and has turned the French kitchen over to Filipino cooks whom he trained. The results were not outstanding, and the Dragon Slayer will no doubt be disappointed to learned that the meal was strictly mediocre, but expensive. We did however, order five cases of excellent French wine, some of which will be reserved for New Year's Eve. There's an excellent wine called Domaine du Peche that I'm saving to drink with the Slayer as he and I enjoyed two bottles of this wine a year or so ago.

After dinner, we walked the twenty meters over to Henny's to have a drink with him, and I did notice that the bar Someplace Else was packed, which is unusual here for a Thursday night. Not only was it packed, but a couple of hte girls hanging out were stunning. I'm pretty sure these were not pros. For all those guys who send me PMs or who post here, wanting to no where they can meet non-pro ladies, you should definitely add this place to the list.

Per the Slayer's suggestion, I did ask both Henny and Claude about hosting wine tastings in November. Both were reasonably enthusiastic, and both said they would contact their distributors to see if something could be arranged. Claude typically holds two tastings a year, strictly by invitation, and they are truly excellent. He prepares the food, the distributor brings 15-20 wines, and a good time is had by all. Actually, his distriubtor ought to love me this week since I just ordered five cases that he'll supply. Henny too, has started to move up market with his wine, and he now has a bottle of Margaux that he sells for $120 and that costs him $100. He's going to see if he can get some more moderately priced stuff for a tasting.

If we can get Henny and Claude to each throw a tasting during the same period, those of us who are here during that time ought to enjoy ourselves immensely. If this does come off, we'll make sure that there are enough young lovelies to occupy those of you who come stag, but, since the tastings are free, you guys have to promise to buy at least a bottle or two.

Thanks again to the guys who posted encouraging words.

:D

GE

GE Glad to know you are staying.Hopefully no more problems will arise.Regarding Claude s Restaurant Tour observations are right on the dot
Apparently due to his medical condition,His wife has taken over running the operations of the Restaurant.Try as she may,She cannot match the cooking skills of a true native.But she cooks great native food.So How does Claude s French Restaurant and Native Cooking sound Onion Soup paired with Sisig Haha Just joking

Since I stay away from controversy I will shy away,But I would like to offer some support from a distance. Gaitano is the the largest Italian Wine Distributor in the country and supports wine tastings. He owns Galileo Inoteka which I believe you may have heard of.Would you like me to contact him and PM you his contact details,So you can communicate directly with him.Ditto for Bobby Joseph of Ralph s who in addition to owning Ralph s is President of NAITAS,the National Association of Independent Travel Agents.The guy just solicited 4 Room nights from me for Raffle Prizes at the SKAL Makati Christmas party.Would you like his contact details for him to sponsor this???Anyway Best Regards

Surfer
People have different tastes in Liquor and I guess We should respect that.For Example My Brother who is a Vice President at New York Life collects Fine Scotches and When he has me try his latest Single Malt from some obscure Scottish Distillery or Johnny Walker Blue,I can hardly tell the difference.I am not ashamed to admit I do not have a sophisticated taste in Liquor.

I like Portugese Wines and am happy with a Simple Vihno Verde or Vihno Tinto myself.I like a fine tawny port occasionally.Champagne is a wonderful drink,Which Unfortunately My Fiance does not enjoy it and nither does my Future Father in law Good for me.In fact during My last trip He gave me a Taittinger Comtes De Champagne 1996 Bottle and a Salon Le Misnel 1995 Bottle Which were given to him as Gifts When He Assisted A Foriegn Group get their Shanghai permits in order.Are these great Champagnes ???I have no idea whatsoever,Just know that they are fine vintages best saved for a special occasion.Anyway Good luck and all the best wishes for a succesfull wine tasting for team Davao.

Actually, my girlfriend hasn't met that many guys from this board but it's true that some of the meetings have been fairly grotesque, or at least very, very strange. I could respond at some length to Trim's comment, but then I consider the source and I figure it just isn't worth it, and then there's Jackson's (well-considered) rule about not attacking other members.

I was just speaking to the Slayer and got interrupted by a call from Henny and I think he might actually do thie wine tasting if his supplier can come up with enough reds. Surfer, you might be interested to know, that "room temperature" regardless of where you happen to be drinking the wine or what temperature it may be outside, is about 12-14 degrees celsius, which is why the French--and anyone else who knows wine--chill their reds to this temperature. I could tell you the history of this practice if you're interested. The single exceptions to this are heavy burgundies, but we don't get many of them in Davao.

The Slayer's correct about never drinking whites. Even when I was living in France I could never get into them and I didn't include any in last night's order to Claude.

In vino veritas.

:D

GE

Pals,

GoodEnough, a Class Act in Himself, just called me. He is NOW caliing my daughter's mother to iwsh her a Happy Birthday. I look forward to meeting you guys very soon.

Dragon Slayer

Pals,

Invitations will go out. GE told me that BOTH Henny and Claude like this Idea. I will personally purchase at least one case of fine red wine at each tasting, assuming qualtiy and price. I have no doubt that both will be acceptible.

I have consumed a large quantity of magnificent Italian and Australian Wines (gotta love the Italians & Aussies, BOTH US Pals). I am now back to celebrating my Woman's birthday.

Dragon Slayer

ds thank you for the information.you really know your fine wines ,ge personally i prefer white wine like vihno verde,rhieslings etc but that is a personal opinion and preference i can apreciate a fine burgundy just like anybody else.anyway anything is better then chinese wine.here are some recent tasting notes changyu chefu red wine color bright red taste cough syrup mixed with flavor of grape tang.cheers

Trimkeeper,

You need to cool down and pay attention.

GE was suggesting that Jackson's rule prevented him from attacking YOU. Or maybe he was using that as an excuse to not further pollute the Davao board, I don't know his intent, but he never suggested anyone was attacking anyone. The man laughs at foolishness, but I never saw him attack anyone. I did see him send a German Shepard into quivering fear...so it is possible. Don't confuse the man with the other person who always quotes him.

Second, I've met the man's significant other and I don't believe she ever said anyting derogatory about..... I don't care if DS gets pissed off at me. In fact, DS should mind his "classy" manners and refrain from mentioning other folk's women, and refrain from repeatedly attacking people for the flimsiest of reasons. Trimkeeper, you owe an apology. You insulted a man and his woman just because of some third party rant on a sex site.

Third, DS, thanks for all the great info over the years. Thanks for the invitation to the party in Davao for New Years. Everyone understands you're the big man at the table, but please stop knocking over everyone's drinks.

If I make it to Davao, I want to relax, have fun, drink, fug, hit the beach and a few other things. I don't need anyone to make rules, count pennies, nor attempt to belittle me with size, status or income.

Now, let's all try to follow Ge's great example: Be civilized, give information, and avoid being a prima donna.

X

[QUOTE=Trim Keeper]You can do better than that Mr. GE., nobody's making attacks on anyone. I was merely commenting on DS' comment. If he can make his comments then you have to expect a reply. Why is it he can talk about just whatever the fuck he wants and does and when someone makes a little remark they get nailed for their comments. Again...like I said many times, you guys don't say you own the board but with the threads you guys lay down surely proves you do without having to say it. Who gives a rats ass about the bullshit you guys talk about. Just talk about the pussy and PM the other shit to each other. If you dont want to hear the comments dont put them on the board!

Trim[/QUOTE]

i'm a wine lover, but mostly in the romantic sense. haven't met any filipinas that liked wine...most haven't tried. hmmmm, what am i waiting for???

i prefer reds, but in the philippine heat, i think a chilled white wine would be quite tasty.

like cl, i'm not interested in joining the davao condom-pocket-t-shirt gang, but "wine and women" parties sound very inviting.

btw, if i bring a bottle, is there a chance that air pressure changes will blow the cork? had a bad experience coming out of the caribean...a bottle of rum blew it's top inside my baggage.

x

[quote=cebu local]i prefer white wine like vihno verde,rhieslings etc but that is a personal opinion and preference i can apreciate a fine burgundy just like anybody else.anyway anything is better then chinese wine.here are some recent tasting notes changyu chefu red wine color bright red taste cough syrup mixed with flavor of grape tang.cheers[/quote]

[blue]Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson[/blue]

If it's Saturday night we must have been at Henny's place (De Bonte Koe) which was so busy that Henny was turning away people without reservations; unusual for any restaurant in Davao. We had our fairly large German Shepherd with us and so we ate outside, where I had an excellent opportunity to observe what was happening at Someplace Else, the bar diagonally across the courtyard.

I counted twenty women sitting in small groups, and obviously waiting for something to happen. As I remarked the last time I reported on this place, they were not pros, or at least not obvious pros but they were clearly amenable to something. When I got up to walk the dog, I got a lot of comments directed at the dog but meant for me. Maybe I should start a dog rental business for visiting mongers wanting a conversation opener. It clearly would have worked for me tonight.

Chicos is a bar which features live music a few nights a week, and it too was jumping. The crowd was mixed between couples and again, ladies out on the town, sitting in small groups and drinking San Mig light. What's interesting about these women is they all were well dressed, as were the women in Someplace Else, and they all had at least a little money, since these bars insist that the only way you're allowed to sit at a table is to drink and/or eat.

As we left to go home, I made a point of driving up Rizal St. past Swigs, Bar 183 and the Promenade. It was only 9:30, which is a bit early for those places to start really hopping, but there was a decent crowd in the outdoor bars, and again, loads of women, but I was only driving by and I can't say what they looked like.

This is of course Saturday night, so it's the busiest night of the week, and it's not like this on other nights. However, anyone in Davao alone who cannot get laid on Rizal St. on Saturday night might want to seriously consider joining a monestary. I'm sure that by 11 or so the crowds at these places will be double what I observed.

Driving home, we took Torres St. which is a fairly large street, and for the first time ever, I noticed a bunch of hookers patrolling the street. There weren't many, and those that I noticed were not particularly attractive, but this may be a hunting gorund for those interested in inexpensive p4p treats.

I also stopped at the corner convenience store to buy some stuff for tomorrow's dive, and the outside terrace was jammed. Not a seat to be had. There was one table of student nurses, but the incoming tide of lowlife street people pretty much filled the rest of the tables. There were however, several women, though most were sitting at tables with some fairly disreputable looking locals.

I get a steady stream of PMs asking me where to go to meet normal women, and I've responded to several of these. I hope though that this post provides a fuller description of some of the better places to hang out, at least on Saturday.

:D

GE

[blue]Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson[/blue]

Great report from GE. Thanks for keeping us up to date on the happenings in Davao. Attached is a picture taken out the back door of Chicos in the "courtyard" that GE mentions in his post.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]
Chicos is a bar which features live music a few nights a week, and it too was jumping. The crowd was mixed between couples and again, ladies out on the town, sitting in small groups and drinking San Mig light. [/QUOTE]

You gotta love a guy who would create a board like this. He must live in a virtual reality with thousands of sleazy women and far too many drunken, aggresive, lowlife arseholes.

If anyone is interested, far below the Presidential Suite at Casa Leticia, are the STANDARD rooms. Yes, some people actually do stay in the standard rooms. They are really standard.

X

I'd like to share with you my well spent 4 days vacation adventure in Davao ...

First of all let me start with letting you know my impression about Davao
and its people. I've found Davao to be one of the safest cities in the Philippines. I commend the mayor for doing a fantastic job in keeping peace and order. I've found the people of davao very respectful, helpful, friendly, honest and disciplined. Cheers to Davao and its people!

DAY 1

Checked in Casa Leticia about 6:30pm. Nice, clean hotel w/ friendly service.

Went to Victoria Plaza, ate at AHFAT Restaurant. For about P850 had
live lobster, live pampano fish, mango shake. Food was absolutely fresh,
super delicious and inexpensive.

After dinner, walked nearby to VISA KTV, didnt see any girl i liked.

Walked further down to KAROKAN KTV within Victoria Plaza, high end ktv bar, many girls, I almost got to vip a girl but didn't.

Went to Hotlegs Too (not II) many so-so looking girls, nude show, tried the small vip room, with a lovely young 18 yr. old lass, named MAYUMI. Sucked her nice standing boobs with pointed nips, fingered her succulent pussy. She got real horny, opened her legs wide and shoved my face to her nice smelling dripping pussy.

After Hotlegs Too, I hopped on a taxi and went to a casa, as recommended by the taxi driver. There were about 6 chics, 2 were lookers and students. I finally got one, brought her home to Casa Leticia for an "End of the Night" banging! Her name was DIVINE, was clean, nice smelling wet pussy, gave me a very sensational BJ that made me say ahhhh ... ahhhhh!

DAY 2
Called Carabao Dive Shop. Good service, they picked me up at my hotel to go scuba diving at Paradise Beach in Samal Island. Current was quite strong but manageable, saw many nice corals, fishes. It was a nice relaxing dive and we stayed for about 55 mimutes underwater.

At about 8:30pm in the evening, started scanning "Ground Zero" convenience store at Illustre cor. Camus, but didnt see a chic i liked and I didn't like the ambiance of the place either. I decided to go Bar hopping, I headed to check the big KTV bars: Shangrila KTV, ET ktv, New World Palace ktv, but didn't see any chic i liked. Until somehow we dropped in a small ktv bar called SANDAWA ktv. There i found the most beautiful and fresh 18 yr. old girl named: IYAH. I got excited and didnt waste time. I got her into the vip room and after some sweet talks and few drinks i started kissing her soft, luscious seemingly innocent lips. She was a bit shy but started to enjoy it. I progressed to caressing her seemingly newly developed and firm breasts. Her nipples turned hard and protruded to invite me to suck it with joy. Her skin was so smooth, body very clean and smelled so good. After about 5 rounds of drinks, i finally got her to remove her panty. I couldnt bear not to dive her perfect pussy. It smelled naturally fragrant, succulently lubricated, thin pubic hair, small, cute and smooth vaginal lips and openning. As i inserted my angry raging stiff dick into her pussy, i could feel the the real tightness only helped by her natural lubrication to
penetrate her love box. Her pussy hugged my dick so warmly, there was no room for my dick to float, but was in constant tight contact with her vaginal walls. Wow what a sensation. It took me longer to cum as i bore in mind to control my urges of cumming at once. I cant forget that classic penetration because i had to work my way on earning it. This girl is not an automatic fuck, you have to work your way, have some technique. I was surprised to have banged her in the vip room. It may not be true, but she told me that i was the second man to do her, aside from her BF. (it also may be true coz her pussy tightness tells and her initial reluctance for sex was evident in the beginning)

After Sandawa ktv, i visited VENUE to check the girls, but didnt see anyone i liked, the girls seemed cheap and a far comparison to IYAH.

Then visited AUTOSHOP, but it was too late, the ladies were already gone.

Went to Casino Regal Hotel to play, but no luck, I guess i was already lucky with IYAH.

DAY 3
Took a taxi all the way to EDEN natural park for a sight seeing tour. They also have nice accommodations there where you can take your special girl to enjoy overnight.

After Eden, I passed by a fruitstand, to sample and eat Davao's tropical fruits, such as Durian, Pomelo, Rambutan and Lanzones. They say Durian is a natural aphrodisiac, but i didnt like the taste. I liked the Pomelo fruit.

I went to Gaisano Shopping Mall to book a flight back to Manila and did some shopping. I bought some nice t-shirts and a nice fake ferragamo salvatore shoes for P800. It was just like the original with soft leather, lightweight, rubber soles, comfortable fit.

At about 8:30pm ... pussy time ... i scanned "Ground Zero" again but didnt see a chic worth talking to. There were pimps on the street asking if i wanted girls, they showed them to me but i didnt like them, they looked dirty and beaten.

I hopped in a taxi to show me Rizal Promenade. I guess it was early and didnt see much chic. We proceeded to Plaza Roman, massage and bar. The girls in the massage didnt fancy me, most of them looked old and beaten and in the bar, it was still early and didnt have much girls to show yet.

We toured AUTOSHOP again and VENUE but didnt see someone i liked. So I was just strolling around Davao city inside a taxi, when the taxi driver suggested to try HILLTOWN KTV.

I went inside Hilltown ktv. It was nice, clean, huge and felt new. They have so many huge vip rooms for private videoke use. The mamasan showed me a room full of girls. It took me quite a while to select a 19 yr. old lass named: MARICEL (this may be her true first name, as she told me).

Maricel had a wonderful body. Clean, smelled good and the best attitude among all the girls I encountered in Davao. She is not as beautiful as IYAH but super entertaining. We just holed ourselves in a big clean, aircon, classy vip room, complete with toilet. We drank, ate and sung songs all night. we petted heavily and it came to a point were she took off all her clothes, was dancing and singing to me all night, while dancing and teasing me with her naked body. The vip room had a lock so nobody could just enter but the upper door had a window. The toilet was so clean, so i decided to move the action inside the toilet for more privacy. We locked the toilet, then i sat on the clean toilet bowl cover lowered my pants and underwear. She started to give me a sensuous eyepopping BJ, ahhhh! She enjoyed sucking my dick as she didnt want to stop doing it. When my dick reached the highest point of stiffness, I told her to take my place and seat on the bowlcover. She did, i spread her legs apart, sniffed her pussy and saw her glorious **** about to drip with juice. I played with her pussy to make her even hornier and licked her clit. She got wilder and begged for it ... wow, time for insertion!...I spread and hung her legs on my shoulder then inserted my stiff dick into her thirsty pussy The action was ecstatic, deep, hard banging, pounding, ahhhs and ohhhhs and outflow. After it was
over i just couldnt believe how exciting and euphoric it was doing it in such a place with such a wonderful lady. What a night of pleasure and entertainment!

DAY 4
Went back to AHFAT Restaurant for lunch. This time i ordered live crabs and steamed rare Tigik fish. As expected it was another very delicious inexpensive meal, only experienced in Davao.

My flight back to Manila was late afternoon, so I thought of ending my Davao vacation with pure relaxation. I was recommended to go to BAHIA SPA. The place is nice and clean and service excellent. I had a steam bath, jacuzzi bath and superb massage, thai stretches & swedish combination by a young pretty masseuse all for P500.

THE END. MIDAS TOUCH flies back to Manila to conquer more urban gorgeous pussies.

I have attached a picture of IYAH and MARICEL.

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

Great Report on Davao,I took some notes myself.Thanks for a detailed report on how you can have luck in Davao.

Agree with CL; very nice to actually get a report about finding women interspersed with all the garbage that has polluted the PI threads of late. Well done getting the discussion back to finding girls King Midas, you do have the golden touch apparently.

How was the diving at Paradise beach on Samal? What was it about the ambience at Ground zero that you found distateful? Which KTV do you rate the highest?

As much as I LOVE that kind of report, posting pictures of the girls, along with names and where you found them, leads to problems more often than not due to the presence of idiots who will surely print your report and pictures and then take them to the KTVs you mentioned seeking those same girls. Some guys will never understand discretion or YMMV.

Excellen report Midas! Gave me a chubby. Where are you based? Why Davao for vacation?

When you say "beaten" do you me beat down/tired looking or actually beaten? If the latter I'd like to give the beaters a knee cappin!

[QUOTE=Midas Touch]I'd like to share with you my well spent 4 days vacation adventure in Davao.

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]

Surfer,

Dont discourage. Finding these chicks is a needle in a haystack right?

[QUOTE=Surfer]Agree with CL; Some guys will never understand discretion or YMMV.[/QUOTE]

Midas' report indeed illustrates why we expats & others in the know are fond of calling davao "the Philippines best kept secret". Typical foray at reasonable prices with interesting ladies many of whom have never been with a foreigner.

Regading "beaten" I beleive Midas is refering to girls who have been well used or have a bit too much expereince in their profession and are starting to show it. You will see the type, a bit puffy in the tummy (too much rice and pork, too many kids) maybe a bad tooth or two (can't afford a dentist)
eyes a bit bloated from too many late night shifts entertaining filipino high rollers & drinking tanduay.

It is a shame that none of the girls in Roman plaza were up to their previous standards, used to be that the former management (a friend of mine) hired some real nice looking ones like the legendary 'tata' or Tin tin with the naturally bald pussy. New management settling for second best I guess.

The disco/bar just adjacent to it was also a place for freelancers but the action didn't start until later int he evening.

I reported before on some of the smaller and lesser known KTVs in Davao
(Sandawa area is mentined by Midas, Matina actually) that dot the main highway all the way to Ulas. Few of these KTV's see a foreigner and they fall all over themselves to try to be your GF for the night.

Good luck

Spamhog

CEBU LOCAL,
You're welcome, I wished we had a chance to get together in Davao during my stay.

SURFER,
Diving in Paradise beach was good, not excellent. The good thing about diving there is that it is very near, a mere 10 mins. boatride from Sasa, Davao City. It was a way of making good use of my afternoon time, while waiting for nightime. It was a beach dive and was so comfortable and practically no work, since the divemaster carried most of the heavy equipment i rented. It cost me a total P1,350 for a 1 tank dive, which included pickup from the hotel, RT transportation to Sasa, RT boat transfer to Paradise Beach, entrance to Paradise Beach, full scuba diving equipment and friendly divemaster buddy. The water was warm and visibility good. You will see a lot a diff. species of corals, sponges, crinoids, anemonies, clown fishes, many other small fishes. It was just colorful underwater. It was a relaxing dive and refreshing dive that cooled down and washed away the alcohol from my body from last's nights drinking. The deepest part was about 50 ft. and we stayed for about 55 minutes under water. If you want to experience excellent dive spots in the Philippines, I recommend: TUBATTAHA REEFS in the Sulu Sea, Cabilao and Balicasag Islands in Bohol. These dive spots i've tried before and they are really AWESOME! Lots of Pelagics, sharks and schools of fishes. You have to join the liveaboard boat for a week to be able to go to Tubattaha Reefs. Anilao in Batangas is
also very good diving for many colorful small fishes, multitudes of corals, underwater christmas tree beauty and macro photography.

Personally, I didn't like Ground Zero because of its location in the corner of the street where a lot of people pass by, a lot of cars and other transportation zoom by. I find it kinda noisy and too open for me. I prefer cozy places. However, if i saw a pretty chic i liked there, I could have stationed there for awhile.

It's hard to rate KTVs based on different factors, but if i were to come back again to Davao I would definitely visit the following KTV to prospect and look for that new special someone ...
1. HILLTOWN KTV - nice, huge, plush, KTV with good facilities, many girls to chose from
2. SANDAWA KTV - small but may have someone special, just like Iyah, who knows?
3. KAROKAN KTV - seems ok, nice place, just hope that the girls in the lineup are pretty
4. VISA KTV - visit on a friday night, maybe you'll find someone pretty & hot
5. PLAZA ROMAN Bar - they say there are many pretty ones here, visit about 11PM and try

DEFACER,
I am based in the United States, but frequent the Philippines, about 3 times a year just to have good time, enjoyment, relaxation and practice my favorite hobby ... mongering!

I have been to different parts in the Philippines and have had many happy chic encounters in Quezon City and Manila. This time I thought of Davao to sample what it could offer. I say that, the Davao trip indeed has been counted as one of my enjoyable trips.

Beaten for me means, the chic seemingly appears to be overUsed sexually and doesnt look fresh, based on how i see them physically. I may be wrong in how i see them but its good to be resourceful enough to select someone you think is better and to your liking.

The chics i found may be needles in a haystack and i really had to practically go around Davao city to look for them. I paid the price and that was effort and time to look for the needles, but it was well worth it. Of course aside from money, you need luck and charisma to make it all happen. Cheers!

As Tuesday is Melbourne Cup day, O'Flannagans should have a bumper crowd for it. Maurice is back in town but the place is a bit of a dive. Plus they show Liverpool matches, as if anyone needs that shit. When Maurice is not there, his help spend more time eating the food than working.

If you head to The Venue from O'Flannagans, there are many hoker streets to the left of the main road leading to the Venue. There are best seen by taxi as even though the roads are all off the main busy road, they are dark with lots of trees.
The main sw scene is not where people here say it is but at the corner of the stret Mt Apo Hotel fronts on to, and San Pedro St. There is a short time hotel there with always a few hookers hanging outside 24/7. After 11 pm and well into the early hours, there are up to 40 or so there. There are plenty of pimps too but they are mostly losers and can be safely ignored. Turning into San Pedro Street and walkiing to City Hall late at night there are always plenty of male and feamle pimps offering chicks.

The square outside City Hall and all the way down to Rozal Park has an interesting mix of professionals and amateurs. The Reflexology guys all seem to be gay and, after Duterte hands out the free porridge on Friday afternoons, about 20 of the world's ugliest ladyboys assemble for a game of voleyball. THis spectacle is hard to beat for ugliness, exhibitionism and bad volleyball. On the plus side, it shows what lies just under the bonnet.

There are about 5 NBangladeshi guys hanging around trying to pick up locals. They might be interested to know that the hookers - the better looking ones aged under 21 - jump into the cops' patrol wagons in the early hours, chat and perform a variety of adult services for the boys in khaki. This means that the hookers are the eyes and ears of the cops (in a city renowned for its death squads) and a scam is a possibility if you go for the jailbait. I bet the Bangladeshis are asking for it.

Once you reach the far paret of San Pedro cathedral, walk to the Marco Polo on the Avinco side. About half way up, there are a number of short term hotels with 24/7 service.

As regards prices, a very large number of women are paid 90 pesos (ninety) a day, and a 10 pesos (ten) overtime rate. This should give you an indication of waht the marekt will bear. 300 pesos is the short time local rate and the roads off San Pedro St near the square have a large number of grotto 80 pesos short time hotels. The older women will go for as low as 100 pesos.

If you move upmarket to the expat hangouts, there are some hu$$band chasers around. Remember that 3,000-5,000 pesos is the average monthly wage here and act accordingly (or not if you like).

Paradise Beach Resort has a 75 peso entry fee. Nahundnow makes a much better dive if you join a boat going out. The scenery both above and below water is nice, and even better if you take some flesh along to feed to yourself.

Frankly, I find many of the hookers in Davao and Manila clapped out. I picked up a 20 year old stunner in San Pedro St who, on the second night, slept immediately she entered the room. This allowed me to study her up close.She was so jaded and she was a non smoker. Her mate who hangs out with the cops has the body of an 19 year old and the face of a 40 year old. (She is 19).

Earlier, outside LA Cafe, I eyed up an 18 year old beauty at 10 am. When her toothless shabu pimnp pulled a knife, I disarmed him, and made a citizen's arrest of the two of them and brought them to the cop shop on the next road. She was beautiful but unable to pull a customer all night long and she was consorting with shit like that.

I saw some guy boasting about conning Samar salesladies into havign sex for a second hand cell phone. Whatever floats your boat I guess. But there are nice women about, but not on the street. Even the youngest ones are clapped out.
I could write more but suffice it to say the street sex scene is a bore, as is anything more upmarket. If you want hard on sex, go to Angeles. Davao and other places have other, more wholesome attractions.

One further thing. Don't believe the shot about them being students. If you are a personable guy, hang out on the streets, take one long time, build up trust. After that night, they will all know you. And so will the cops.

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De Bonte Ko, featured prominently in this thread, is a Dutch owned restaurant in a tiny foreign courtyard in Rizal Street, which runs parallel to San Pedro. De Bonte Ko and its sister Spanish restaurant are nice places to bring more upscale babes for some upscale nosh. The food is good but expensive by street standards and so not suitable for slappers. Some Place Else is a similarly designed bar opposite De Bonte ko and is frequented by upwardly mobile student nurse types who nurse their beers. Some of the waitresses are cute – they dress up a little better than most Davao losers – but are probably a hard catch.

The Venue is loud and noisy and has too many students nursing their drinks. Jack’s Ridge makes a nice night out with a slapper and is a good taxi ride from town. Wear some anti mosquito stuff. Good live bands and Viet etc food.

There is a big sex and shabu scene by the beach at night with rooms etc for rent at reasonable prices. This is where the fun people/hookers/shabu users/ hang out. This place is only advisable if you are street smart. Although Rody Duterte, the mayor of Davao, has made it plain that foreigners are off limits, a little discretion never hurts.
Avinco, opposite the Marco Polo is the best place to change real money into pesos and the rates at the many tourist shops are comparable to Mabini St Ermita. Rates vary slightly from shop to shop.
The airport tax is 40 pesos at Davao, 200 at Manila Domestic. Get a metered taxi at Davao. At Manila, it is best to walk out to the main road and get a guy who turns on the meter.

Women apart, there is little to buy in Davao. Mt Apo is a good 3 day stretch of the legs but a guide would be handy. The weather is mild, not much happening. Just poor people having sex for free or for money.

Finally to the guy who met R- and fucked her all of week one, and married her on week 2: congratulations. You have found a wonderful woman, as many of can attest. For any other pony tailed fools: stay in Angeles, Los Angeles if you are that green.
I remain agnostic on wheteher these mixed marriages (age in particular) can work. Although all 50+ ers like women young enough to be their daughters, some are really hopeless cases.

having lived, worked, mongered and married in davao, i can assure you the street scenes that are painted herein are true and factual. martians just scratched the surface and didn;t even get into the real dicey areas near santa ana wharf, magsay say park after dark or the notorious kiddy corner near bolton bridge, however a caveat, if i may.

the p100 hookers, shabu heads, whacked out trannny's and glue sniffiing (rugby) boys and girls that sally forth in davao's mean streets after dark & sometimes broad daylight are no different than their brethern in any other philippines city i've seen, be it manila, cebu, cagayan de oro,bislig, butuan. etc ad naseum. it is easy to find such effluvia no matter where one goes in the phils as any veteran monger or expat afficianado can relay. true, some cities have more or denser population of scum buckets and the prices may vary. i would estimate that you are getting bargain nasement prices in all of mindanao with davao a little more high end than, say cdo, butuan or bislig/surigao.

now the question is why would one want to mingle with such low lifes and partake of rock bottom rate hookers most of which are diseased or employ their shabu peddling husbands/bf/pimps as stickup artists? i guarantee you a foreigner does not have to resort to such to get laid in davao or any where else. davao isn't exactly a monger town, that has been said time and again. however enough ktv's, massage parlors etc exist for p4p set, but most guys go there looking for girlfriend or even wife material, somebody they met on the internet or whatever. they usually get laid time and again by simply chatting up waitresses, salesgirls or what have you. running around on the streets at 2 am is unnecessary and unhealthy. yes, foreigners are protected in davao but why push it.

most of these street people serve the filipino truck drivers in from the province, the ill paid afp soldier and the equally bottom feeding merchant seamen, i strongly suspect that the bangladeshi's mentioned in the previous post were off one of the ships and being unable to score with one of the notoriously clapped and syphallytic "akyhat barko" (ship hopper) *****s went in town looking for something a little more "upscale" ie p200 blow job instead of p100 bj. what you are dealing with here is the equivilent of the $10 "crack *****s" one sees in most usa ghetto's.

nor is such limited to the philippines, one can find skanked out 'hos in bangkok's klong tooey section, all wired up on "yah bah" (shabu), ditto for
kl city and jakarta, the list goes on and on but why bother?

bottom line, these women are diseased, dangerious and most likely ****,
avoid them no matter what city you are in the philippines/asia/the world.


regards

spamhog

Spam Hog: I agree I just scratched the surface, one reason being I like scratching surfaces and am smart enough not to go too far into the wrong side of town. I did go into Magsay Park many times after dark and spoke to the homeless, who asked me why I ventured into their world. (Coz I am me). I was at Santa Ana wharf during the day and was not aware that a Bolton Bridge existed. I had my photo taken in the park by a female family visiting from CDO, who were staying at a 7 peso a night place. They were clean and respectable btw. I did not feel unsafe though I did avoid a few specimens. The thing is many haven o money so hanging out is all they can do and there is a thin line between hooking and hanging out.

The volleyball playing shemales seemed rather middle class to me and were merely claiming the high ground by playing volleyball in the main town square. Flaunting it even if they have not go it. The gaggle of ladyboy hookers I saw another night could also do with lessons in make up etc. The reflexology gays were all middle class.
The Bangladeshis own a shop in Gaysano shopping mall. The hookers I hired all spoke reasonable English and used condoms. I doubt they were diseased. I did ask how many foreigners they had serviced: not many but loads of Pinoys.

I did not run around at 2 am and am usually locked in a hooker's embrace by then. But 2 am seems normal mongering time and it is good to get a take on the street.

As regards your bottom line: all the ones I saw were of age. However, there did seem to be some jail bait as I pointed out and the presence of the cops makes a sting a la Angeles likely there.

I think you are misguided to shout of diseases etc, though I reckon the chances of getting one are higher than other places. I like trawling those areas as I like to hear their stories and their insights and to glimpse their world views. The sex, often mundane, is not the main course.

Joking, a few of the regulars on the Davao board have "retired", so there is no need to keep referring to them.

Good posts Martians. Much of it has been touched on before, but it's nice to have such a comprehensive update.

I might be in Davao in late Dec if anyone else expects to be in town.

X

Martians just a few things regarding disease and why I caution all who venture to the "street".

You got a good handle of the big picture regading the "street". But consider WHY they are in the street not working in a bar/ktv etc. These low end(Hookers) are there to serve the pinoy truckers, merchant seamen, soldiers whatever who don't have a lot of money to begin with, remember there are not that many foreigners who come to Davao and of those that do only a relative portion engage in mongering, and most mongering takes place in the KTV's bars etc for that purpose. Most of the girls are VERY young, most of them work the street as they are TOO YOUNG to get a GRO license required to work in a videoke, ktv or what have you, most cannot no matter what age as they have a record or are on the Barangay Capt watch list for drugs/crime one thing that is STRICTLY enforced in the davao is the age limits and non criminality for GRO license.

Now to further clarrifly my assertion I will quote statistics from various Davao organizations which make their claims rather public in local papers etc. This year in January they had a big ASEAN conference, all kinds of security measures but some Nob in city hall with rare intelligence decided they better clean up the street girls, ie get them into clinics and have them tested and treated else many visiting dignitaries are sent home with drippy dicks.

As a result of that much touted effort here are some things that were discovered: the good news, VERY FEW CASES OF AIDES/HIV are reported in Davao, the bad news: While there were a number of ghonerreha cases, cases of Syphyllis far exceeded the norm.

The most diseased specimens were the low rent 'Ahkyat Barko', the ship hoppers who serve the merchant seamen, imagine these guys coming off the ships and plowing some hooker without a rubber as they are too cheap to roll one on or macho tradition distains it (Ala Pinoy).

Three years ago I was buddies with a local (americano) missionary. He and his Filipino wife would actually do some good by driving around in their battered tamaraw and handing out condoms to the street girls. They also worked for a local organization connected to WHO and offered free treatment to any who would come in. This visayan fluent no nonsense fellow estimated that 90% of the "street" girls (and Trannies) were STD infected, once again a lot of syphyllis and clap but really not much in the HIV/Aides dept. There were also a host of other diseases like TB and Hep B/C (both communicable).

Heres another mongering tip fellas, if you want to check a conga line of girls getting tested for their weekly GRO licensure go over to Torres street in Davao just north of Central bank. (I can't remember the day either wednesday or thursday) you can always score an 'off duty' cutie who is coming out of the clinic and just had her pap smear.

I would venture to say that some of the "homeless" you met in magsaysay park were likely ship hoppers, there and some other sections of the city 'Boulevard' in particular their favorite haunts. However, others are likey "lumads" (native tribes)who come down from the mountains this time of year (xmas) to sing, dance, beg and sometimes fuck for money. Lots of these folks (god bless 'em) carry TB etc just by virture of the fact they have NO health care in their villages and rely on native cures. (aside: one native cure for the clap is sticking your dick in a coconut for about an hour).

So I stand by my caution, to avoid street hookers in Davao or anywhere else in the PI for that matter. Most port areas in the Phils have the ship hoppers who service the incoming sailors and most catch the various diseases as the result of prior liberites in prior ports in a dozen nations.

JOKING:

I will be the first to admidt that I have been a "cheerleader" for Davao in some of my past posts. But if there is ANY hype at all it is to counter the Hype from the US embassy about how dangerous Davao is, I always counter that with a big "bullshit", the whole Philippines and Davao in particular is realtively safer for a foreigner than your average US city. I stand by that assertion. If anything Martains just proved that, I guarentee you he would not have fared so well in a US city mingling with the "street".


Regards

Spamhog

Spam Hog: Interesting post. I find the low HIV rate of the Philippines, given its fame and infamy as a sea faring port, most odd. I do know Hep C is big there. I did meet several tribals (very dark) down for Christmas but none gave me the glad eye. Something like 40% of Pinoys are susceptible to TB (?), something not commented on much here.

I did not sample all that many women and always used a rubber. They seemed clean to me. Contrary to the whackos on the Thai safe sex thread, I generally find the married ones safe as they have an investment, their child, in life. I think your native cure for the clap would do well on the Thai safe sex thread btw.

I have appreciated your comments and those of GE etc in the past. The main thing is to get a fuller picture. I have been in much scarier places than Magsaysay Park; the main danger there is saying the wrong thing and meeting some wanna be hero and his 20 friends. I met no bar hoppers.

I do value your comments and insights. However, as so many women there are skint, they have no option but to hang around. I did, btw, take some shop workers into De Bonte Ko for a meal but they were so totally out of their depth I was dumb founded. All but one babe who really wanted to meet a foreigner. So there are different types hanging around there. I guess I always want the virginal apple that is just out of reach.

I read your post on the Pinay women too and it is also food for thought. The key thing is there is often a major age, income and cultural gap between the Pinay and the foreigner. What mutual friends have told me regarding this still befuddles my mind as I can’t get my head around such things as why the faithful women are faithful (can’t or won’t look at life beyond their main), or why they don’t try to trade up (or down in age).

There was that one lady I previously banged senseless who is now married to a pony tailed Yank. I would love to see the background check on her. He married her in week 2 of their romance and she has told mutual friends she is still on the market. It seems to be the only career move for many women there and my friends in M Park refer to it as a marriage of convenience. I could see such marriages becoming inconvenient very quickly.

[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Martians just a few things regarding disease and why I caution all who venture to the "street". (aside: one native cure for the clap is sticking your dick in a coconut for about an hour).[/QUOTE][url]http://www.coconutresearchcenter.org/[/url]

Sure enough Spam Hog, that cure is listed here, as well as ones for hep c etc. It is impossible to go to Mindanao and not be impressed by the coco nuts. I did meet one Gen san beauty with big watermelons even Nibu would have envied. On a more serious note, the fact that such bs is peddled is a little frightening.

Thanks a lot for your ship hoppers' info. I do feel, however, you are beinga little unkind to the pros and amateurs of downtown Davao. CDO seems risque by comparison and, as you say, the other cities are off the wall for depravity. Which is fine if you drive carefully.

Before my 2000 trip, maybe in 1999, I read that Estrada was so infuriated by organizations trying to accurately track and report HIV and AIDs cases that he simply stopped the Philippine Government from collecting such data. Not sure of what has happened since he left office, but I would be suspect of any data provided by RP and would expect it to be more "flattering" (under reporting cases) to the government.

[QUOTE=Harvey WB]Before my 2000 trip, maybe in 1999, I read that Estrada was so infuriated by organizations trying to accurately track and report HIV and AIDs cases that he simply stopped the Philippine Government from collecting such data. Not sure of what has happened since he left office, but I would be suspect of any data provided by RP and would expect it to be more "flattering" (under reporting cases) to the government.[/QUOTE]


I don;t know why Estrada didn;t want data on STD's that guy had so many mistresses he was a candidate. Im not an authority on HIV/AIDES but my general impression is that there is not as much of it here in the Phils like there is in Thailand. Every so often the papers make a big deal out of some returning OFW who is HIV positive, I would also imagine that HIV is more common in Angeles than in anywhere else due to the more international population visiting, but for some reason Ghonnoreha/Clymidia and Syph seem to be common in Miindanao. The world health Organization did have an office in Davao and they are the ones who finance some of the HIV prevention methods and encourage condom distribution, they are also heavily involved in the Anti Dengue efforts that are epidemic in some regions in and around Davao. Plus you have a lot of "women's rights" groups like "Gabriella" active in Davao, however most of what they do is scream and protest. You have a lot of Missionaries and "Do gooder" orgs (including the red cross) that are also active and to my knowledge finance clinics and hand out condoms. You probably get more accurate stats from these orgs than you ever would from any Govt

A few years back when the SARS scare was in full swing there was heavy monitoring of the situation by Phils govt.

Regards

Spamhog

Whats happening to the Davao thread? Seems no one is posting anymore.

[QUOTE=Midas Touch]Whats happening to the Davao thread? Seems no one is posting anymore.[/QUOTE]Some Davao Regulars have gone on Vacation,Others have relocated to places like Cebu or Manila and as For Myself I have been spending more time out of the PI in China.My last 2 weeks were spent in Guangzhou,Wuhan and Xiamen.

[QUOTE=Botaki6]Can you tell me which one is "the hotel"?

I'm heading down on Sunday - 2 gals from chat lining up. But not sure if it works as both are claiming to be cherries. Therefore want to keep my options open. Which hotel is the better one then, hasslefree and no PI_bushdrums: Casa Laeticia - or Apo, considering that I just want to walk out, get a chick, up in the room and here-we-go..

Thanks[/QUOTE]

I have stayed at Casa Letecia(thanks to GE) and was not disappointed. Apo View is a fine hotel but a tad more expensive than the Casa.... I've made a few friends at that place. PM me if you need more info.
BS

I reserved the Presidential Suite at CL for the New Year Holidays. If anyone interesting is in town, let's get together.

X

I changed my reservations at Casa Leticia. Too many bullshit stains on the carpet. X

I'm sorry. I'm having trouble understanding this. It sounds really interesting, but I don't understand the part about eunich, nor JEN, nor....



Even if the resident in Room 501 (Pres Suite ) was having sex with four (4) sexy, young ladies, when my Jen knocked on his door and announced that "I would like you to attend a Champagne Party next door", no fucking way would anyone, save for a euniuch let it pass.

Even more bad news coming out of the Philippines..this time from Tagum which is northeast of Davao City.

[url]http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/MAN50013.htm[/url]

As many here know,I spend half my time in China now having recently married a Shanghainese girl.But I continue to work in Promoting PI-China Trade and Commerce.I will actually be with the City Delegation of Davao City led by Mayor Duterte,When they visit Nanning,Guangxi China this coming January8-11.Nanning is the Sister City of Davao.Likewise the Assistant City Admistrator Bobby Tseo will be with me in Kunmming,Yunnan China this January 12-16.So while I have not visited Davao,I still keep touch with my contacts there.Personally My new year will be spent at Jean George s Shanghai Branch on the Bund drinking fine champagne and dining on his imaginative French cuisine.Happy Holidays and Seasons Greetings to Team Davao

[QUOTE=Cebu Local]As many here know,I spend half my time in China now having recently married a Shanghainese girl.But I continue to work in Promoting PI-China Trade and Commerce.I will actually be with the City Delegation of Davao City led by Mayor Duterte,When they visit Nanning,Guangxi China this coming January8-11.Nanning is the Sister City of Davao.Likewise the Assistant City Admistrator Bobby Tseo will be with me in Kunmming,Yunnan China this January 12-16.So while I have not visited Davao,I still keep touch with my contacts there.Personally My new year will be spent at Jean George s Shanghai Branch on the Bund drinking fine champagne and dining on his imaginative French cuisine.Happy Holidays and Seasons Greetings to Team Davao[/QUOTE]Hi,,

I recently met a girl from cagayan de oro on the internet, and we have been chatting for 6 months now.

I have been thinking about going to the philipines to visit her, but I hear a lot of bad stuff about mindanao and the muslim rebels. So if you could help me with some information about cagayan de oro. Is it safe to go there and what should a first time visitor be aware of going to the Philipines.

I saw all the warnings about bargirls and not to take drink and food from strangers (kind of a given in my book) but especialy in areas like cagayan. Should I be extra carefull going out and things like that.

I hope you or someone that reads this will reply.

Ridder

I believe corrections are in order,I was in Davao during the Asean Tourism Forum where Crazier and I met Spam Hog with GE and Spam Hog at Hennys.Second I was back with the Philtoa Delegation during the Davao Travel show.Finally I was back for the third time this year when We did the presentation at Villa Margarita.I will not take this more public than this has to be.But Do a check when you get in and Hizzoner is going to be in Nanning on Jan 8-11 and the City admistrator will be in Kunnming on the 12th to 15th. I will be hooking up with the China boarders who will confirm this.Me a cheap Skate the following might Disagree.Sugoi,Mahku,Crazier,Tiger 1,Old Asia Hand,Dragon D,Cancontrib,Fire Dick,Bill Buxton..........Anyway He is entitled to his impression.False information here is My Challenge If Mayor Duterte is not in Nanning on January 8-12,I LEAVE the Philippine Boards PERMANENTLY.If He leaves on those dates,You owe me a Public apology on this board.Here is Another Challenge while you are at it,If I was not in China,How Did I hook up with all the Guangzhou,Zhuhai and Shanghai Mongers?????I hooked up with people in Macau,Zhuhai,Wuhan,Shanghai,Xiamen who can all confirm I was in their cities.
I am probably one of the most peaceful people here and I said I would stay out of your way.But you dont own the board.Jackson does..Lets watch over the next few days.I have set a lunch with Roy Almoro this coming wensday and.As the Chinese like to say,May you live in interesting times

I've been following the Slayers rantings about cheapskates on the Davao board for a while now. First, he blamed Mahku for this; now its Xman and CL. There seems to be a pattern forming.

Look, I met Mahku recently in Lima Peru, and cheapskate he's definitely not. There was an election going on that weekend and all sales of alcohol were banned, except, as it was explaind to me, in hotels with foreigners; in my case, the Marriott. Mahku and I and another guy consumed several of the hotel's mediocre wine at $50+ a bottle. Mahku paid more than his share. So lets put that 'cheapskate' bullshit to rest right now.

Now I like a good fight as much as the next guy, maybe more than most :), but it has to be fun. The PI isn't like Thailand with a million mongers present at any given time. PI mongers are a small group whose paths will eventually cross. Its ludicrous to fight like this.

Don

Let me say upfront that I have not made it to Davao yet. But I am one of those who has met CL in real life and corresponded a little bit with him. I found him to be one of the good guys, a straight up and very helpful fellow. So accusing him isn't cutting much ice with me or others who know him. Just my 2 pesos. Enjoy your holidays...

Thank you Guys and I would like to point out that IF I was a cheapskate,I would be Celebrating New Year in a 2nd or 3rd Rate City like Davao.Instead I will be with my Shanghainese Wife at Jean Georges,The Shanghai Branch of Michelin 3 Star Chef Jean Georges Vongerichten,The Place has wonderful Kumamoto Oysters that are paired with Champagne Jelly that sparkles in the mouth as it dissolves in your mouth Yummy and they pound scallops into silken noodles along with the Finest French Vintages.Davao Where s That????Simply does not compare.Jean Georges 4/F Three on the Bund,3 Zhongshan Dongyi Lu Shanghai 86-21-6321-7733. Why there???She used to work in the Building,DS Ask your Shanghai Babe What Level of Chinese Eat,Party or work as Managers at that Address.The New year Package is set at 1200 RMB a head,Thats about 150$ a head and the Shanghai Mongers will confirm that I will be there at New Years.Enjoy your Party in a Backwater Third World City,While I enjoy my New Year with my Wife in a Global City with a Michelin 3 star Chef,Happy Holidays

Actually I intend to take the high road and avoid fighting Since He is very much in touch with the movers and shakers,I will avoid tangling with him.I have lunch tommorow with a humble civil servant called Roy Almoro.He is the Executive Director of the Bu of Immigration and Deportation,I will make sure that you get a chance to meet him when you get into the PI.We can have a nice chat about topics of interest,But be careful about what we discuss,He has a thing against Sex Tourists and cyberporn.The "invitation" to visit will probably be served by BID people in Cebu or Davao at his preference

To the fellow from Japan
Yes I have his real name and Address office and home phone nos.Its amazing how fast Chinese Hackers can work.But Forum rules prohibit me from Sharing it or posting it.But let me check If a google earth shot of his house is OK.Maybe that might be ok.
DS
I just checked .Its already in the Davao Sunstar.Mayor Rodrigo Duterte is going to lead a Trade Investment Mission to Nanning China on January 8-12.So I guess you owe me an apology about posting false information.I will send you a postcard from China.Imagine the discussions We could have about Sex Tourists in "His City"while I am with them.Happy Holidays

Gentlemen, Gentlemen, cease fire PLEASE!

I know most of the Davao crowd personally, I like to think Im on good terms with all of them, interesting bunch of guys and I enjoy the ribald,semen flecked adventers of all who post here. But all this bickering??? And things are sounding serious here, lighten up!

Time for a story:
When I was an adolecent growing up in rural Pennsylvania circa early sixties I would go out in the "back 40" and build tree houses or cabins, having a secret cabin was COOL, it was a place where you and your friends could go hide from your parents, talk, loaf, but MOST importantly, look at and stash all your dirty books and if your were real cool, cigarettes. But you had to be careful, if somebodies older sister found out she would go running to Mom and tattle. "Those boys are up there smoking cirgarettes and looking at playboys again MOM!" But the real danger was from the older, bigger kids who would come by and steal all your dirty books, cigarettes and wreck the place and maybe kick your ass for not telling them. So you had to be careful who you said what to about the tree house.

Fastforward 42 years and here we have our own club house, complete with dirty pictures and dirty stories from around the world. A place to meet and bullshit, entertain and be entertained as well as learn and teach... BUT we gotta keep it kinda secret, MOM can't do nothing anymore but Big Sis is now some wacko organization like Gabriella or womens rights which abhores prostiution and male chauvanism in any form and they are running around the Phils and other Asian countries where mongers tread and VERY interested in what you do so maybe they can get you on some kind of "Sex tourism" rap.

Enter the "Big Kids" like US justice dept and all those in agencies in other countries changed with the enforcement of the UN's (May they burn in Hell) enforcement edicts. In case anyone is wondering I know for a FACT that the NBI monitors this website (along with a few others) they are mainly looking for kiddy porn, child prostiution etc but handing them someone's head for engaging in what we all do over here is with consenting female adults...well, it is gonna wreck the cabin and start a chain reaction, coz "we all guilty" of that one. I would hate to see anything make the papers, the Philippines with its sensationalistic tabloid style journalism would have a field day, I can see it now,

"foreigners have website to aide in explotation of Filipinas".

Now that that is out in the open Harken further ye who doth venture to the land of the "Middle Kingdom". About the end of September I picked up a newpaper (I beleive Cebu sun) which quoted a chinese (Shanghai) newspaper. The article dealt with the reaction of the chinese press and local citizenry to the published report of a "Blog" dedicated to finding, seducing and having sex with Chinese women, the article stated that the blog was run by "foreigners" and had many derogatory things to say about chinese women, mocked chinese men and often published pictures of the women nude or partically clothed. Several "online monikers" were quoted and the local Law enfordcment announced it had launched an investigation intot he matter to have those respobsible expelled if in China or blacklisted if not, to much cheerleading from various Chinese sources who named the Foreigners "scoundrels" and such, in short, if these guys are ever identified heads are gonna roll. I thought the might be talking about ISG but from the giost of the article I dont think it was.

Now I was gonna post something about it, warning all of you who venture to that Celesial land but I got wrapped up in my preparation to Visit Honk Kong Macao so It feel along the wayside.

Point is, whatever personal crap we might have against varios personalities from time to time, it is NOT worth getting so upset we have to wreck the secret tree house.

Life is a dilbert cartoon, learn to laugh at yourself.

regards to all

Spamhog

sh
consider it done,ceasefire from me.after all i wouldnt want the big kids demolishing our clubhouse over 1 person.funny you mentioned the story in shanghai.you know mrs cebu local is from shanghai.anyway that was correct,it raised a real ruckus and many people were embarassed when the authorities tracked them down and exposed their real life identities.funny you should mention gabriela,lisa masa their sector rep in congress and i meet quite often,since i am quite active in bantay bata,which is a childs right foundation.i am quite active in the anti **** field along with make a wish another organization i support also.while i support our hobby with legal aged consenting women,i draw the line with kids.anyway from what i know of her(cong.lisa masa),she could really make a mess of our clubhouse.she is extreme.we do not need people like that messing around.best regards

Spamhog,

Speaking of the Chinese blowing up over websites, this summer in the Philippines I read of a bust on cyberporn dens in Cebu. As usual, foreigners were portrayed as dirty, lecherous swine lusting over frail Filipinas (not mentioning they are separated by several thousand miles). Oh my God! Foreigners are looking at naked Filipinas on the Internet!

On the same day how many desperate, broke Filipinas are gang-banged by drunken Filipinos for centavos? Yet everyone is worked up into a frenzy over the Internet, which represents a huge improvement in working conditions for the typical Filipina sex worker. We shouldn't kid ourselves: the same government that doesn't give a crap about Chinese ("Chinoy") and Filipinos exploiting Filipinas in the most unconscionable ways is going to go ballistic over imagined Internet abuse, including this forum.

[quote=cebu local]sh
consider it done,ceasefire from me.after all i wouldnt want the big kids demolishing our clubhouse over 1 person.funny you mentioned the story in shanghai.you know mrs cebu local is from shanghai.anyway that was correct,it raised a real ruckus and many people were embarassed when the authorities tracked them down and exposed their real life identities.funny you should mention gabriela,lisa masa their sector rep in congress and i meet quite often,since i am quite active in bantay bata,which is a childs right foundation.i am quite active in the anti **** field along with make a wish another organization i support also.while i support our hobby with legal aged consenting women,i draw the line with kids.anyway from what i know of her(cong.lisa masa),she could really make a mess of our clubhouse.she is extreme.we do not need people like that messing around.best regards[/quote]


when gabriella and linkol filipina get involved in anti ****, child porn or child prostitution, they have my full support and they should from every member of this board, read an article in the cebu sun today about six filipina in sabah who were promised jobs and ended up working as gro's against their will, they escaped their employment and now the embassy is involved.
in this case i can't help but wonder why some of the aformention orgs aren''t there with treasure and time instead of wasting time running down some guy who wants to look at naked (adult) girls on a web site. plus you never see them mes with the japanese and their japiyuki enterprises or all the filipina who disappear in japan (snuff films) these orgs are financed heavily by the new york main office yet the seem to be more interested in prostesting the asian summit here in cebu. priorities, gentlemen, priorities.

regards

spamhog

Dragon Slayer,

How ya doin. Yer a great mon, producing all them wee bairns. How do you do it? It must be a great responsibility for you and the kid. I look forward to one of the future baptism parties, if not the baptism. Litle waifs don't need that religion.

Yer reports give me hope. If a big New York plodder can get hot babes so easily, there must be hope for all of us. I hope to hit town just after the New Year. I will miss the parties but I will look you up in OFlannagans. We'll have a blast. You can keep the wine but I dont mind sticky seconds on the pussy. Is the kid the same way? If so, I will hold my nose and take thirds. Still, if it is that easy to throw a leg over, you can have my leavings.

Fares should come doon in the new year so lets pack the condoms, the gel, the toys. And P-A-R-T-Y

[quote=guinness]i say, let's poll the filipina's and ask them who they would rather play with. "dirty" foreigners who just might support them or "dirty" pinoy's with no future?

guinness[/quote]

here we go again..., article today from manila bulletin:

manila (reuters) - the united states said on friday it was pulling the plug on annual joint military exercises with the philippines next year in an escalating dispute over custody of a us marine convicted of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] a local woman.

the case of lance corporal daniel smith has become a major headache for the philippine government, which agrees with washington that under the terms of a visiting forces agreement (vfa) he should remain in us custody while he appeals.

but a local court has defied the government and sent the 21-year-old to a city jail, jeopardising the philippines' close security alliance with its former colonial master.

''until the philippine courts are able to ensure that the philippines is in full compliance with the vfa, it would not be prudent to bring additional troops here for exercises at this time,'' us embassy spokesman matthew lussenhop told reuters.

Spam Hog, thank you for your thoughtful, well-written appeal to all of us. You make a very good point about overreactions that could boomerang on us all. I think most of us here share your wish for a Davao thread that has useful exchange of information where all the members respect each other. I wish it were a matter as simple as "Now you boys be nice to each other." Unfortunately, experience has shown that this isn't the case.

A case in point: Since your attempt at peacemaking we've seen a conciliatory post by Cebu Local. We've also seen a lot of hate spewed out by Dragon Slayer. First, there was a general 'they're all losers' kind of post. Now he's throwing barbs in Henny's direction, a guy that has everybody's respect here.

So it's plain to see that DS aims to continue his antagonizing regardless of whether anyone responds to it or not. To be fair, this Billy Ibrox (who is probably a transitory troll or a long-term member hiding behind a new name) is pushing his buttons a bit. But anyone who says that we should just ignore him should remember the days of his feud with GoodEnough. GoodEnough hardly ever responded, but the board was subjected with endless attacks on GE for more than a year. Also, most recently I've been in South America minding my own business and enjoying the ladies here. I hadn't posted here or thought of here for over 2 months. Apparently, DS considered this an intolerable provocation. He launched into a 3 paragraph rant about stuff that happened years ago. Then, in an example of his twisted logic, he accuses me of 'not being able to let go.' He also slammed Cebu Local after a relatively innocuous post about going to Shanghai. Such unprovoked attacks by Dragon Slayer are too numerous to mention.

Members like X Man, Cebu Local, myself and most of the others who get mixed up here travel a lot and post useful information. We all meet other forum members frequently and get along with almost all of those we meet. But we do have in common the one guy we don't get along with. We aren't the ones who need to cease fire. We often go quiet for long periods while this guy whines about people incessantly. In other words, the stink mainly emmanates from one place. If the emmanator would stop emmanating all of this would die down right away.

I'm at a business lounge computer so I have to run for now. But I just throw open to all the members the question of what we should do about this. Dragon Slayer has earned the label Serial Anatagonist several times over. The list of members he has tangled with here is too long to even begin with for now. Perhaps it's way overdue for a 'Dragon Slayer in the Philippines' thread. There he could hate away to his heart's content and when the rest of us get bored we could look in on him from time to time. I'm open to any constructive ideas.

And Slayer, who's talking about which way to go on the street. I was talking about your comparison of those girls and the ones at GZ. Next time wait until you're sober and then respond.

[QUOTE=Dragon Slayer]Pals,

Any guy who drinks guinness is okay with me. I am the 6'4", 240#. The lady is the usual tiny woman. Just trying to make it easy to find me when I am in Cebu prior to hitting Davao. I even tried to bring my Son with me to Davao, in as much as his mother pulled duty New Year's Eve and New Year's Day at the Hospital. Her reply was one word, "NO". I asked again and got "NO". Reminded her who paid the bills and got a "Yes" to who pays the bills but still a solid "NO".

I guess it will be interesting in as much as she intends to bring him along with her on a night of shootings, stabbings, drunken accidents and burns from fireworks. Hope he does not start to cry when some stupid fuck comes in bleeding all over the place. The guy will most likely be told to shut up and wait until she gets my son quiet.

Dragon Slayer[/QUOTE]

DS,
Your postings are of no interest whatsoever to the vaste majority of ISG users as they give no useful information for the general users. An example is the one quoted. Do please go elsewhere if you want to get into posting fights.

Relax mon. Why ye having a fucking party fae anyways? To fuck Henny? Leave the mon earn a shilling and dannae be dragoooning him into yer "enjoy or else" Hogmanay, ye big fucking Tim.

So yer 6'4"? Since when? Doon the east end o Glasgow, the lads like jumpin big cunts like you. And its the same everywhere or has all yer life been under yer mammy's apron strings. Ye wannae last 5 minutes in Glasgow lad. They'd use yer guts as a swing for yer bairns. And as fer yer big giraffe of a nephew, ae pity the wee bugger. Most places like taking on big cunts and giving them a hiding. Nothing personal, just some jollies. The NYPD must have had great fun winding you up. Will ye nae relax before ye kil yerself Timmie?

And as fer all these bairns ye make in the Philippines, are they giraffes too? Coz if they are, the local lads will enjoy jumping them in the schoolyard and making haggis out ae them. Will ye think with yer big head fer a change Timmie?

What kind ae sorry fuck are ye that ye start crying if fellas cannae attend yer fucking party? Get a life. Put yer big head between the little legs o one of the Ground Zero lassies and report back here on what she tastes like. Put that big tongue ae yers up her little arse and tell us how she takes it. Have ye usd the tradesmon's entrance on any ae these lassies? How much can we get Jen faer? How much did she want and does she like Jock stick?

Give us the facts, ye big fucking Tim. Keep yer hair on too or yell give yerself a heart attack and yer loving nephew will have to dump the sod on ye. Yell nae be getting many rides when yer pushing up daisies. Peace oot!

I've been folllowing this thread for many years and am almost convinced to retire to Davao because of the reports posted here mostly by Goodenough I miss his imformative and reflective posts as I see him as a thinking mans man.

There must be something redemptive about DS in real life if Goodenough is his friend even though they seem to be total opposites on this board.

I wouldnt want to ban DS myself I find his posts entertaining he is a character he seems to be a Disastrous Success. He travels, he has money, he has plenty of pussy and doesnt lack for height, everythiing I dont have but I dont envy him, reading his posts makes me glad I'm not him he can be vitriolic to his friends at times, we all have our disabilities.

If Goodenough, Spamhog and Cebu Local aren't posting here (no helpful informative posts) and you ban DS (no entertainment with information some times) then there is no point in coming here anymore. Billy Ibrox whoever he is seems to be a good foil for DS and is just as entertaining. Leave things as they are and let nature take its course.

I plan to be in Davao next year to scout the possibility of semi permanent living thanks to this board and I'll probably need a good nurse or two to take care of me. Things I can do intelligently now thanks to the good information of members here.

[QUOTE=Trim Keeper]As of last night I was in the making of leaving a long and well deserved burial for DS's comments. But after reading Mahku and Fast's responses I won't. I would like to ask Jackson to consider not allowing any further posts by DS in the Davao section and as Mahku suggested, give him his own area where he can be king of comments because I have ALWAYS said he offers NOTHING to the board by antagonizing everyone with his attitude and comments about EVERYTHING in his pathetic life!

DS gives a nugget of useful info once in a while. If he were blogging, very few would read him. By dropping the occasional nugget here, he gets many of us wading through it, like digging through the city dump to recover a gold ring that you accidentally dropped in the trash.

In the spirit of the season,I would like to wish everyone a peaceful Prosperous New year.I would like to even say a few things in defence of DS in the Spirit of the Season.DS owns his own business and probably is wealthier then most people on the board and having met some of his women,I will concede that they are at least Above average in looks.So He has some brraging rights,BUT He is not the only wealthy guy on the boards,To cite an example Ace Gallant the leader of the Shanghai Gang owns his own Pharmacuetical company,Goes around Town in a Porsche with his Driver/Bodyguard.The Dude is worth many millions of dollars and a lot more humble.Furthermore there are many other Senior mongers here with MORE BEAUTIFUL WOMEN,just a lot more humble.Tiger 1 a HK based monger has some excellent Chinese,African and European Freebies that look a lot better then his women.One of My past Freebies is one of the drop dead gorgeous women you see on the Tourism Malaysia Ads on CNN and BBC.When was the last time DS did an International model as a Freebie????

He brags about his 150$ wines as if He is the only one who can drink them.I recently was invited to Dinner by another HK based Lurker monger who is the GM of of one of the finest Hotels in Hong Kong.We had the opportunity to have some Sauternes wine from Chateau d Yquem which is a Premier Grand Cru Status wine ranking it the highest rank in the world.The Chateau d Yquem 1976 was listed at 610 Euros or roughly 800$ a bottle.But We never cared to brag about drinking 800$ wine,So his showing off with 150$ champagne was kinda pathetic.Yes I think its about time the peasants of Davao revolted and demanded a vote,

On another thread here, you mentioned one of the rich Chinese dudes was using some fancy tracking software to get to know someone's ID. Could ye tell us mare about this software as I have a mate wants it for the good purpose ae catching bad cunts? Do ye need geeks to run it and support it? Mae mate asked me so here I am. Even the name would be a help.

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Dinnae worry about Baby Face here. This brotherhood exists to fuck women, all women. If Chinks waste their money on wine, like they do on Johnny Walker cough mixture, who gives a fuck? If ye've eaten those 2000 year old duck eggs, same deal. I'd prefer a few drams, a few beers and a good fight on a Saturday night than sitting around sipping wine and talking shit.

But horses faer courses. Yon Slayer will blow a fucking gasket the way he goes on. The Kids is sent to babysit him and apologise to the women for this stupid Tommie giraffe. He goes into a poor area, throws some money around and thorws women out the minute they ask fare a tanner. His treatment of Jen is enough to warrant a hiding.

And no I am not volunteering or suggesting it. But the big thick stupid **** is too much of a prick to see he puts his Henny and his Paddy the Pig pub in the firing line. What a fucking wanker. It would be a piece of cake to wreck those places. Timmie is too fucking thick to see his attitude is no help to those places at all. And if a restaaurant is waiting on an arsehole to crack open a chanpagne bottle once in a blue moon, it must be a kip.

He keeps telling us he is 6'4" and a 240 gorilla. I think he forces himself on the women like Iron Mike Tyson, who, to be fair, is not a giraffe. He should kearn some manners or as sure as fuck someone will put manners on him.

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I hope to be around late January. I will buy a few beers, no wine or cough mixture. And I don't sweat the small stuff so no worries if I buy you a beer and you don't buy one back
Cabu Local: If you could tell me the name of the sofware, that would be worth a dram or two of real drink.

Not again!

Can't we all just get along.


[QUOTE=Cebu Local]In the spirit of the season,I would like to wish everyone a peaceful Prosperous New year.I would like to even say a few things in defence of DS in the Spirit of the Season.DS owns his own business and probably is wealthier then most people on the board and having met some of his women,I will concede that they are at least Above average in looks.So He has some brraging rights,BUT He is not the only wealthy guy on the boards,To cite an example Ace Gallant the leader of the Shanghai Gang owns his own Pharmacuetical company,Goes around Town in a Porsche with his Driver/Bodyguard.The Dude is worth many millions of dollars and a lot more humble.Furthermore there are many other Senior mongers here with MORE BEAUTIFUL WOMEN,just a lot more humble.Tiger 1 a HK based monger has some excellent Chinese,African and European Freebies that look a lot better then his women.One of My past Freebies is one of the drop dead gorgeous women you see on the Tourism Malaysia Ads on CNN and BBC.When was the last time DS did an International model as a Freebie????

He brags about his 150$ wines as if He is the only one who can drink them.I recently was invited to Dinner by another HK based Lurker monger who is the GM of of one of the finest Hotels in Hong Kong.We had the opportunity to have some Sauternes wine from Chateau d Yquem which is a Premier Grand Cru Status wine ranking it the highest rank in the world.The Chateau d Yquem 1976 was listed at 610 Euros or roughly 800$ a bottle.But We never cared to brag about drinking 800$ wine,So his showing off with 150$ champagne was kinda pathetic.Yes I think its about time the peasants of Davao revolted and demanded a vote,[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Billpsu]Not again!

Can't we all just get along.[/QUOTE]Ooops I got carried away.No more negative comments from me.Thanks for reminding me.

[QUOTE=Billy Ibrox]On another thread here, you mentioned one of the rich Chinese dudes was using some fancy tracking software to get to know someone's ID. Could ye tell us mare about this software as I have a mate wants it for the good purpose ae catching bad cunts? Do ye need geeks to run it and support it? Mae mate asked me so here I am. Even the name would be a help.

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To my knowledge, one can trace a URL conventionally with your own computer with out much fancy software. Now there are some anti spyware anti virus software (norton/watchdog) etc that will block an IP/URL trace or send it to a 'dummy" some of the private security outfits use this but it doesn;t take a geek to run it or install it. Several commercial courses in URL tracing/spyware are available in the US as well as elementary software that can bypass some firewalls.
BUT YE MUST HAVE A CARE LADDIE, FOR MANY A STATE HAS ENACTED A PRIVACY CLAUSE THAT MAKES THIS ON THE ORDER OF HACKING AND YE CAN BE GOALED FOR IT. Private investigators in the US run into this all the time. Since there are no rules in the rest of the world he with the biggest wallet can get away with whatever he wants. That is why i often use a commercial internet, as do many of the Lassies working the chat scams do.

Now for me own rant, the DS has a touch of class, thats right laddies, class. Ye DS throws fancy parties, hands out engraved invitations (the forst one I've every received in the Philippines)and stocks his hotel suite with designer chocolate, a suckling pig and well, the ladies like this with all the fawnin and dainties and with the Big fellow all dressed fine, shaved and lookin prosperous, not wearin 'is cargo shorts and walking in sandels like a monk, tis sure I've seen some of ye with me own eyes and the lasses laughin at yer for being BULINGIT (sloppy bum) ...well, everytime I see the Big Tim he has a different Mary, some are pretty, some are plain, some are Angeles from pearly gates without wings they are! And the lad has even posted pictures of such pretties for all to enjoy, enough to raise Iron in ye kilt boyo! Now that is a bit more than a few of ye have done while rantin and ravin. in plain (american) english. Ain't no need for him (or any of ye bretheren) to be muscling pussy if you talk decently, dress nice, treat the ladies gentlemanly and well, have a bit of class.

Now a boyo or two has raised the issue before of how such a great lump of a man can get that much of the fine favors of so many a Colleen, surely he must be spoutin' the blarney, but I've seen it with me own eyes I tell ye!

I know, the big lad gets down with some of ye and that is just a way he has, but to banish such a fellow who has contributed to many a wet dream with the publishing of his pretty lassies (and hopefully a few more) well...t'would be a loss methinks, a great loss.


May the Great Saint Patrick be protectin ye all.

Spamhog

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was deleted because the subject was not related to the purpose of this Forum, which is as follows:

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex.[/blue][/size]

Here is wishing you all the best of the season. I enjoyed two months in the Pearl River Delta - So. China with one week trip to Chengdu with a good friend, chinese monger of retirement age, a person I can barely keep up with and he is 30 years my senior.

I could hardly report a thing about that trip except I have seen several fuck villages and women for hire are around every corner and that if you dont speak Mandarin or have a tourist guide forget about it - if you do - you will have one heck of a great trip - the food, the entertainment, the infrastructure is superb.

Sorry but I could never find my way around never mind relay directions, except to say I never had so much tight pussy in my life.

Presently in Cebu for past month. I must say there is action aplently one only needs to show up if you are as guapo as I. If not, it don't really matter. F. Osmena circle is the place to stay and conduct operations.

As of late, I found a respectable lassie and we are like two peas in a pod.

I guess I must hang up my mongerer label for now. It is a wonder how five years can change a man. I was swinging with both balls last time around as per my previous report.

As to DS, I will meet him in Cebu at Olio and from there who knows. Much is said about him both ways, and I think beyond his bravado is a decent man. He sure as hell not scared to share his whereabouts nevermind my warnings against doing so as his character line herein is a bit over the top for most.

I just want to see him because WSG and this board has been such a big part of my fantasy life since 2003 but as I am in the game now, I hardly have time to get up for air - she is one sweet tasting filipina - but meeting DS is right up there with meeting the Pope.

DS I will sms you shortly when you touch down.

Unlike some Trolls in ISG,DS provides useful information on Davao and Cebu.If he chooses to mix in his personal life,That is his prerogative though quite boring to some people.I think that we should not restrict or sanction DS, despite our differences I believe He is one of the more Colorful and Entertaining characters in the Philippine board.Personally though I think people would like see more pictures rather then stories of his ladies.Happy New year

[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Unlike some Trolls in ISG,DS provides useful information on Davao and Cebu.If he chooses to mix in his personal life,That is his prerogative though quite boring to some people.I think that we should not restrict or sanction DS, despite our differences I believe He is one of the more Colorful and Entertaining characters in the Philippine board.Personally though I think people would like see more pictures rather then stories of his ladies.Happy New year[/QUOTE]

I would second that. Although not all of DS posts are full of useful information you can always skip them if you don't want to read any stuff about his personal life. It's not like they are attacks or never contain any info about pussy at all. Happy New Year and peace to all and hope to be in Davao for the start of a great year.

Hi all. My fist post ever.

I am in Davao right now. Sitting on a terrible connection and trying to scan all previous posts without much success.

Any info on a couple of bars / clubs / etc where I can meet some nice Davao girls is most welcome.

And of course places where I can get an erotic massage.

I am very new at this, so please be somewhat clear and understandable in your posts.

Muchas Gracias and happy New Year!

Br B.

[QUOTE=Barba]Hi all. My fist post ever.

I am in Davao right now. Sitting on a terrible connection and trying to scan all previous posts without much success.

Any info on a couple of bars / clubs / etc where I can meet some nice Davao girls is most welcome.

And of course places where I can get an erotic massage.

I am very new at this, so please be somewhat clear and understandable in your posts.

Muchas Gracias and happy New Year!

Br B.[/QUOTE]


One meets the "nice girls" in Davao's stores, waitresses or hanging around an internet, if its bars and such then try a few of these.

Roman Plaza spa, open 24 7 go in, look at the "fishbowl' chose a girl by number on her dress and go into the room and negotiate for masage and "Extra", usually around P1000 up.

Try Moonlight club, this place converted to a byot bar last year but may have converted back if rumor has it right. All of the girls went to work in a new place in Matina called "SIRENA", including spamhogs two GFs Nicole and her sister Heather who used to double team my Irish short sword with abandon, place is right aross from the Sabong arena in Matina. Any Cab driver knows these places.

If you are staying "downtown" near Apo view hotel etc, right around the corner is some seedy littel bars with rather lackluster girls but these places are so low rent and spontaneous they are fun, a real hoot if you got the proper attitude for it, Hot legs and Galleria. Ask for "Kimberly" from Kidapawan at the later, does a dance with these giant platform shoes and a great BBBJ

Used to live in Davao, moved out last year to Cebu, some of these places may have changed and Im sure the Girls are probably not there, but you can
Do a little hunting on your own at some of the KTVs, a lot near Victoria Mall and other in Sandawa, just ask a Cab driver to take you to a KTV in either of those places. Korkoran is one upscale KTV you might want to check out.

people are real nice in Davao, just be freindly, tip cabbies, hotel security guards, desk men, waiters, waiteresses with a few pesos and they can help you out.


Good luck and let us know what you find

Spamhog

I thank you, Spam Hog.

And I found the list also so now I can decrypt those abbreviations :-)

Will be back.

Br B.

BTW, guys, don't you get paranoid about catching some disease when you get blow jobs without protection?

Br B.

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[QUOTE=Barba]BTW, guys, don't you get paranoid about catching some disease when you get blow jobs without protection?

Br B.

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S SUGGESTION[/u]:[/b] [blue]This is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it under the [u]Safe Sex[/u] topic in the Special Interests section of the Forum where it will benefit the Forum Members who are specifically looking for this type of information. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue][/size][/QUOTE]


We've had several discussions on unprotected sex in this board and about same in Davao vs other areas. First, it is ALWYS advisible when mongering to "glove up" disease of course but pregnancy is another issue that can cause complications. The commercial sex workers in Davao are regularly tested if they carry a GRO license which they must to work a massage/bar etc. they are tested twice a week. Used to be on Tuesday and Friday, also a hint, if you want to checkout the conga line of girls, go up to Central bank on torres Ave just two block north and you will see a small clinic where the testing is done, you cna even pick up an off duty "fresh one".

But to get back to disease and Davao, there are FEW if any HIV or AIDES
among commerical sex workers, HOWEVER the rate of SYPHYLLIS was somewhat high, ghonerrea was about average. ALSO THE RATE OF INFECTION WAS HIGHER AMONG THE NOTORIOUS AHYAT BARKO (Ship hoppers) and street girls who work the piers and the corners on RECTO STREET, many of these girls (Lot of drug addicts among them) are infected from working the ships that come into town and the sailors carrying the disease from other ports.

From everything I have read, heard and discussed with the girls themselves,
you are more likely to become infected by unprotected sex in manila or Angeles, but still....best to put a helmet ont hat soldier!!!!!


Good luck

Spamhog

Permit me to weigh in on this one.

I have been visiting the PI since 1992. I have never had vaginal sex without a condom, I have never recieved a bj with a condom. 95% of the time I have limited my mongering to card carrying sex workers.

To sum it up, I have never cought anything more than a cold. That is not to say it cannot happen, however, with the right conduct you can stack the odds in your favor.

If you do some reading on this subject you will find the odds are far greater the blowjobee (joke only) will catch something.


[QUOTE=Spam Hog]We've had several discussions on unprotected sex in this board and about same in Davao vs other areas. First, it is ALWYS advisible when mongering to "glove up" disease of course but pregnancy is another issue that can cause complications. The commercial sex workers in Davao are regularly tested if they carry a GRO license which they must to work a massage/bar etc. they are tested twice a week. Used to be on Tuesday and Friday, also a hint, if you want to checkout the conga line of girls, go up to Central bank on torres Ave just two block north and you will see a small clinic where the testing is done, you cna even pick up an off duty "fresh one".

But to get back to disease and Davao, there are FEW if any HIV or AIDES
among commerical sex workers, HOWEVER the rate of SYPHYLLIS was somewhat high, ghonerrea was about average. ALSO THE RATE OF INFECTION WAS HIGHER AMONG THE NOTORIOUS AHYAT BARKO (Ship hoppers) and street girls who work the piers and the corners on RECTO STREET, many of these girls (Lot of drug addicts among them) are infected from working the ships that come into town and the sailors carrying the disease from other ports.

From everything I have read, heard and discussed with the girls themselves,
you are more likely to become infected by unprotected sex in manila or Angeles, but still....best to put a helmet ont hat soldier!!!!!


Good luck

Spamhog[/QUOTE]

Interesting information. An somewhat a relive after last adventures with some Latino morenas 2 months ago. Saw the editors note. Sorry for misplacing the question.

Well, this trip it looks like I have to behave after all. My wife just won't let me out off sight. But I'll be back for some tight Pi pussy and then all of those tips will come in most handy. :-)

Br B.

This is an article from the Sun Star today. Far as I'm concerned, shoot on site. Asshole like this need to be "Saddamized".

HIV-positive man sexually active?
By Grace L. Plata

EXTRA caution is being asked of the public after City Hall was alerted to the presence of a foreigner said to be positive of the Human Immuno-deficiency Syndrome (HIV), the virus responsible for AIDS, who is sexually active and refuses to use protection in his encounters with local women.

The City Hall received e-mail reports from police intelligence regarding this Caucasian man who is said to be a long-term resident of the Philippines with a tourist or balikbayan visa but who does not have a work permit or a marriage contract to support his balikbayan visa.

The report said the man has at some periods stayed in Davao, Surigao, Butuan, Gingoog, and Cagayan de Oro.

The foreigner is described to be around 5'3" in height, in his mid-fifties, has brown eyes and a heavy body build, with short hair, and clean shaven. He has lots of tattoos and drives a motorcycle with a Philippine license.

The man is also said to be intelligent and manipulative with a history of pay-offs to the police and other Philippine authorities. Also, that he has a criminal record in his country.

Sightings of the said foreigner should be reported to the police and other local authorities.

that description sure does sound like a certain member who has been given his own thread recently. Hope Mayor Duterte's boys take care of him real soon.

PS. Thanks to DS for the suggestion on Casa Leticia which I used as home base over the holidays. They no longer offer free airport pickup, however, as a new policy of 300Pisos per trip just started at the end of the year (I took a taxi instead for110P). Davao taxis are NOT like Manila (they use the meter without argument) so you do not need a hotel pickup at the airport. ApoView hotel, where I used to stay and spent the first night of this trip before moving to CL, charges 50 Piso per person for airport service.

Only other bummer was Toto restaurant upstairs (the Teppanyaki style place) was always closed. There is a good Filipino restaurant just around the corner past the burnt out house (see picture) but I forgot the exact name (Mencia's or similar). Just across from entrance to the Mall. For an internet cafe that is open at 6am for 20Piso per hour, continue to the corner then turn left and about halfway down the block on the left before the beauty salon you will find it. Free mineral water for customers too.

[QUOTE=Lucifer69]This is an article from the Sun Star today. Far as I'm concerned, shoot on site. Asshole like this need to be "Saddamized".

HIV-positive man sexually active?
By Grace L. Plata
[/QUOTE]Here is an attachment of the news article.

[QUOTE=Surfer]that description sure does sound like a certain member who has been given his own thread recently. Hope Mayor Duterte's boys take care of him real soon.

PS. Thanks to DS for the suggestion on Casa Leticia which I used as home base over the holidays. They no longer offer free airport pickup, however, as a new policy of 300Pisos per trip just started at the end of the year (I took a taxi instead for110P). Davao taxis are NOT like Manila (they use the meter without argument) so you do not need a hotel pickup at the airport. ApoView hotel, where I used to stay and spent the first night of this trip before moving to CL, charges 50 Piso per person for airport service.

Only other bummer was Toto restaurant upstairs (the Teppanyaki style place) was always closed. There is a good Filipino restaurant just around the corner past the burnt out house (see picture) but I forgot the exact name (Mencia's or similar). Just across from entrance to the Mall. For an internet cafe that is open at 6am for 20Piso per hour, continue to the corner then turn left and about halfway down the block on the left before the beauty salon you will find it. Free mineral water for customers too.[/QUOTE]



Surfer, if you reseach some of my (and DS too, although I dont speak for him) this was the gist of our posts,again, not mentioning any names. Any one who does the girls bareback is NOT our friend, anyone who does that irresponsibly is a MENACE, for this very reason, sowing a deadly dieease amongs us. I'm not sure who the guy is in the article, but from his description I remember seeing someone like that in Cebu just before Xmas, guy was short (Which made me notice him) stocky and had a lot of Tats, struck me as a "miniature biker" type. Every expat, monger and member of this board should hunt idiots like this down and make sure the immigration knows. Should he be caught in Davao you can imagine the penalty, Duterte has said time and again foreigners, expats are under his personal protection, woe to he who doesn't listen, however, the flip side is one must behave or woe be to ye.

Are you still in Davao? Curious, if you are ...think you might be able to checkout Sirena bar in Matina just across from the cockfight (sabong) arena? Curious if my old GF's Nicole and her sister are still working there, if they are I might suggest a double team.

Regards

Spamhog

SH: Thanks for the suggestion but unfortunately I am back in the waste (FREEZING in California this weekend). Will be back in Cebu just after Holy Week and would enjoy buying you a few cold ones if you are around. Also, do you have contact info for the rasta surf guide in Tandag? Definitely want to hook up with him (although April is flat season).

[QUOTE=Surfer]SH: Thanks for the suggestion but unfortunately I am back in the waste (FREEZING in California this weekend). Will be back in Cebu just after Holy Week and would enjoy buying you a few cold ones if you are around. Also, do you have contact info for the rasta surf guide in Tandag? Definitely want to hook up with him (although April is flat season).[/QUOTE]


Gimme a PM when you get close to coming to Cebu,regarding a sit down. I will be going to Tandag/Surigao again in April but likely after Holy week(?????). I can get you the particulars of the guide, his digits et al, even have him meet you at the Airport etc. My understanding is that the surf is also up around that time.

Regards

Spamhog

Glad to see you are posting again, Davao board needs a shot of life, when are you gonna do the story on the "two bozo twins" and their entourage who showed up at your suite, I been waitin' for that.

Regards

Spamhog

Davao is NOT a place to visit on a holiday. I once went there on a Mayday. Thankfully, I was patient, and rewards come to those who are patient.

DS, I was a bit surprised to get your pm asking me why I didn't meet you in Davao or Cebu. Why would I want to meet you? I've never had the slightest desire to meet you.

BTW, I'm straight. Stop sending pm asking to meet me.

Have a wonderful day.

X

just returned few days ago from the philippines. spent three days in davao city. about my one hundredth trip there. the info already on this board will point you in the right direction regarding most matters. however , i will give you my impressions on this my most recent trip. might be of assistance to those who have yet to venture to davao city.

taxis from the airport are wanting. much better vehicles await you at a place like cebu airport but nevertheless the drivers in davao are very friendly nice guys. in all my trips to davao city never came across a bad taxi driver. they would have to be the best in the world , but their cars possibly the worst in the world. rattling doors , broken seats , mostly no air con. on the positive side the fares are even cheaper than cebu city.

apo view hotel has had some changes and not necessarily for the better. gone are their buffets. i am a bit of a buffet freak so disappointed with that. music type bar has been replaced with a regular but nice restaurant. had a look at the menu , wasnt for me.

went to de bonte koe restaurant in rizal st , often mentioned on this board. food is ok , waitresses and atmosphere the best. i can recommend this place for a feed , as a good feed in davao is hard to come by. tried o'flannagans before that , for a feed , but its not up to scratch. lovely personality girls working there , one by day , another by night , but food not to my liking. i see maurice has upgraded his tables with new tablecloths and bottle of wine on each table. trying to give it a sophisticated look , no doubt. his draft beer is the best in the philippines. worth a visit and chat with maurice and any other foreigners who might be at the bar. didnt see maurice himself this last trip. nice guy , nice host , but someone has to teach the kitchen staff how to cook western style food.

had two respectable girls via internet to keep me company , but checked out the usual places. just down from maurices is ground zero. a couple of cute girls there , bit young , and most if not all girls closely guarded by filipino male companions at the time. do not bet a lot on scoring at ground zero.

the girls sitting out on the footpath just down from casa leticia , behind maurices , looked a bit malnourished , poorly dressed and maybe one or two ****. gave them a pass.

rizal street is always a bit lively ten or eleven pm on. promenade is not a bad place to sit and drink beer and try your luck. i would say 90% of promenade girls are not available , the other 10% nothing much to look at. boasting type guys will tell you they score at promenade and surrounding mini bars regularly. do not believe it. anyway , i already had nice girls via the internet. a bit out of town there is the cabaguio complex with bar fine scene etc. prices there as with other places are high for what they are. same type of places in cebu city are better.

hot legs2 is in a run down area of town and an excuse to extract p2/300 ladies drinks from unsuspecting or desperate foreigners. was called stag club before. had a look around , better girls when it was stag. your drink is cheap , girls drinks not so. bar fines are crazy. better places can be found in cebu.

they are my personal impressions last trip. if you want more info pm me. the website i scored the internet girls on is asianeuro.com . davao is ok for a break from more active places like cebu city , angeles , la cafe manila.

Thanks Joking for the Davao post. Although I was there over a year ago, my observations mesh with yours, with some minor exceptions.

I did manage to pick up a very attractive GRO at the small disco/bar at the front of Rizal Promenande. I forgot the name. I also had a real stunner off the street near Apo.

X

was in davao a few months ago, your report was "spot on."

[quote=joking]just returned few days ago from the philippines. spent three days in davao city. about my one hundredth trip there. the info already on this board will point you in the right direction regarding most matters. however , i will give you my impressions on this my most recent trip. might be of assistance to those who have yet to venture to davao city.

taxis from the airport are wanting. much better vehicles await you at a place like cebu airport but nevertheless the drivers in davao are very friendly nice guys. in all my trips to davao city never came across a bad taxi driver. they would have to be the best in the world , but their cars possibly the worst in the world. rattling doors , broken seats , mostly no air con. on the positive side the fares are even cheaper than cebu city.

apo view hotel has had some changes and not necessarily for the better. gone are their buffets. i am a bit of a buffet freak so disappointed with that. music type bar has been replaced with a regular but nice restaurant. had a look at the menu , wasnt for me.

went to de bonte koe restaurant in rizal st , often mentioned on this board. food is ok , waitresses and atmosphere the best. i can recommend this place for a feed , as a good feed in davao is hard to come by. tried o'flannagans before that , for a feed , but its not up to scratch. lovely personality girls working there , one by day , another by night , but food not to my liking. i see maurice has upgraded his tables with new tablecloths and bottle of wine on each table. trying to give it a sophisticated look , no doubt. his draft beer is the best in the philippines. worth a visit and chat with maurice and any other foreigners who might be at the bar. didnt see maurice himself this last trip. nice guy , nice host , but someone has to teach the kitchen staff how to cook western style food.

had two respectable girls via internet to keep me company , but checked out the usual places. just down from maurices is ground zero. a couple of cute girls there , bit young , and most if not all girls closely guarded by filipino male companions at the time. do not bet a lot on scoring at ground zero.

the girls sitting out on the footpath just down from casa leticia , behind maurices , looked a bit malnourished , poorly dressed and maybe one or two ****. gave them a pass.

rizal street is always a bit lively ten or eleven pm on. promenade is not a bad place to sit and drink beer and try your luck. i would say 90% of promenade girls are not available , the other 10% nothing much to look at. boasting type guys will tell you they score at promenade and surrounding mini bars regularly. do not believe it. anyway , i already had nice girls via the internet. a bit out of town there is the cabaguio complex with bar fine scene etc. prices there as with other places are high for what they are. same type of places in cebu city are better.

hot legs2 is in a run down area of town and an excuse to extract p2/300 ladies drinks from unsuspecting or desperate foreigners. was called stag club before. had a look around , better girls when it was stag. your drink is cheap , girls drinks not so. bar fines are crazy. better places can be found in cebu.

they are my personal impressions last trip. if you want more info pm me. the website i scored the internet girls on is asianeuro.com . davao is ok for a break from more active places like cebu city , angeles , la cafe manila.[/quote]

Thanks for the kind words. But as you can see, posting here in the Davao thread causes a slow rot kind of dementia to all who hang here too often. The foaming at the mouth post that you referred to (which I see has now been deleted) is an extreme example. But I fear all of us who are regulars here are at some advanced stage toward the same fate. But it's not too late for you. Get out while you still can!

The 6 month trip is over and I'm getting reacquainted with ice and snow and less attractive dating possibilities. But before you break out the violins and tissues I have to say that 2 different Filipina old flames, now living in the US and separated from ill-advised marriages, are bugging me to come visit them. I'll be headed up to Iowa for one of those next week.

In Davao girl related matters, I've noticed that the A Foreign Affair website has had a bumper crop of choice looking Davao women. It's one other possible way to line up contacts in advance. This is the kind of site where you have to buy the girls' contact information. So if you mainly want to be able to chat up girls right away it's not for you. AFA also run these romance tours. They really charge a lot and I can't see the value. But if you have money to burn but not much time it may be an option. Even if you don't want to use any services the site is still worth a look to get an idea of what's available in Davao.

I more or less agree with what Joking said. I think Apo View made a big mistake when they got rid of Liquid Bar and replaced it with a somewhat sterile restaurant lounge. They did make the Blue Room but I don't like it nearly as much even though I did find an attractive girl there. Liquid was a lot better for moving around the crowd and mingling.

If you're staying at one of the bigger hotels (Marco Polo, Apo View, Grand Regal, etc.) you can use their shuttles from the airport. Just go up to their representative in the arrival area, or just outside, and they'll take you to their van. This is usually free or costs something like 50 pesos.

I agree with most of what you said.

The non-air con taxis whilst being delapidated were nevertheless the cheapest I found in PI- 100PHP from the airport to apu view for example, and, as you say, all very friendly. I take loads of taxis so preferred those to the more expensive Cebu ones.

I was there for five days three weeks ago and only scored one regular girl- though I probably didn't try hard enough. I found the SW looked to poor for my tastes and wasn't tempted to go into Hot Legs 2.

I got adicted to the regular massage places- no sex but GREAT massages. Loved the "Shiatsu 2" and "Shiatsu 3" massage places with their no lights and near pitch black rooms and very nice music. They guide you to your bed with a torch! At 200PHP for an hour, I ended up having 2/3 a day.

I wondered whether one could have proposed extras but was reluctant to try as it seemed too straight to me (despite the darkness)- the girls being very sweet but formal and wearing very unsexy clothing.

Anyone tried these places and got more than just a regular massage?

Joking, I'm curious as to what happened when you met up with the two girls you met on asianeuro.com. Did you have to date them and take them for dinner, etc. many times before sleeping with them or did you just meet them and then jump into bed? How did you manage to see two without them knowing- changed hotels and sim cards?

Planning to go to Zamboanga in 2 months because I read it's better than Davao for picking up regular girls. Have you been?

Henerson, what makes you think Z city would be more productive than Davao? I hope you can find the time to give more detail trip reports. If you want to chase regular girls you might try meeting some online before you go. There is a thread here at the Philippines site that might offer some tips:

chat rooms and pen pals

The Davao thread doesn't get much traffic. Sadly, GE has left and last time I communicated with him it sounded as if he won't be back. He was especially unhappy with pm's that attacked him, and I've gotten several myself...albeit from only one person.

But maybe the Davao thread is quiet because people are reluctant to post in such a tense atmosphere (Mahku's warning to Piper seems to confirm this). Does anyone think it would be worthwhile to have a Mindanao thread? Naturally this could include Davao.

X

[QUOTE=X Man]Henerson, what makes you think Z city would be more productive than Davao? I hope you can find the time to give more detail trip reports. If you want to chase regular girls you might try meeting some online before you go. There is a thread here at the Philippines site that might offer some tips:

chat rooms and pen pals

The Davao thread doesn't get much traffic. Sadly, GE has left and last time I communicated with him it sounded as if he won't be back. He was especially unhappy with pm's that attacked him, and I've gotten several myself...albeit from only one person.

But maybe the Davao thread is quiet because people are reluctant to post in such a tense atmosphere (Mahku's warning to Piper seems to confirm this). Does anyone think it would be worthwhile to have a Mindanao thread? Naturally this could include Davao.

X[/QUOTE]


Remember there are many individual places other than Davao to monger, a thread dedicated to that would have to encompass Cagayan de Oro ( A GREAT mongering place) as well as some lesser know areas like Surigao city, Butuan, the Bukidnon region. Zambo city doesn't get much visitation due to its fearsome reputation, lotta people are scared Shitless of the Abu Sayeef (Who never get near the place). There are some low grade videoke's and KTV's there and LOTS of girls online looking for Mr. Right. A while back when the US forces began their joint exercises the Phils Govt declared all such places were to be off limits to American GI's as there was some concern over another Angeles City/Olongopo developing. My trip there revealed that this was universally igniored and many provincial princesses came to the "big" city to snag a GI. It was well worth the trip and many a lovely dark skinned lass did drop her knickers for a bit O' fencing with the Irish short sword.

Davao, a place I once called home, is not really a mongering city, nor is CDO or Zambo for that matter, not in the same regard as Angeles, Manila or even Cebu, primarily as there is little visitation from westerners it doesn't get the tourist/visitor influx the aformentioned do, ergo less posts. But If you do go such places you will be treated like a king, trust me. But Davao's strong point, like the rest of Mindanao is that you would go there to meet "wife or GF" material, it is best to start online.

Regards


Spamhog

Although I was quoted, it seems like this is info for Hendersen rather than any comments about why a Mindanao thread isn't needed. All the places you mention are either discussed in the Davao thread or the "other areas" thread.

Anyway, I've seen some real cuties from Z city at the online sites. You seem to think it's safe visit...but... SH, I'm not as tough as you, nor do I have a cute little dragonlady to scare off the Abu Sayaf like you do. :-)

Any hotel recommendation? If Hendersen comes back alive, I might plan a trip there.

X



[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Remember there are many individual places other than Davao to monger, a thread dedicated to that would have to encompass Cagayan de Oro ( A GREAT mongering place) as well as some lesser know areas like Surigao city, Butuan, the Bukidnon region. Zambo city [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man]Henerson, what makes you think Z city would be more productive than Davao? [/QUOTE]Well, reading the posts here and elsewhere. One guy (I forgot who) saying that he picked up regular girls every time he went to the disco there.

As for chat rooms and pen pals, it's the time that it takes to weed out the gold-diggers and build up a relationship with a straight(ish) girl when you find her.

As for GE, It was after reading his many posts (here and elsewhere) that I decided to go to Davao.

I was a bit surprised though when I got there. The safety aspect has often been debated, but I found it completely safe, in fact, maybe too safe and hence a bit boring. There’s a local ordinance that all clubs must close by 2am which puts a big dampener on things.

I wandered around all the time in Downtown Davao, evenings, 2, 3, 4 o’clock in the morning and other than the occasional sales pitch from a SW (who looked too poor for me to be tempted) I was left alone. I must have looked very lost most of the time as well as for some reason I couldn’t get the layout of the streets clear in my head, so often walked in circles for ages.

What surprised me was that it was so much more provincial and third world than Manila and Cebu, where I had just come from. There wasn’t much entertainment. However, it’s pleasant enough if you just want a cheap place to relax and while away the days.

The girls all looked too young and provincial to me ( I like them in their late twenties/early thirties). I Stayed in Davao 5 days waiting for the weather to clear so as to make the over-ground trip to CDO, which it didn’t do. So I just had massages, used the apu view’s gym ( tiny but adequate and I think I was the only one to use it as it was hidden away) and in the evening went drinking with some of the local guys.

I did score with a waitress but that got boring after the second day. Maybe there were some hidden places that I didn’t know about. I made friends with some local guys but they were not very adventurous.

[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Remember there are many individual places other than Davao to monger, a thread dedicated to that would have to encompass Cagayan de Oro ( A GREAT mongering place) as well as some lesser know areas like Surigao city, Butuan, the Bukidnon region. Zambo city doesn't get much visitation due to its fearsome reputation, lotta people are scared Shitless of the Abu Sayeef (Who never get near the place). There are some low grade videoke's and KTV's there and LOTS of girls online looking for Mr. Right. A while back when the US forces began their joint exercises the Phils Govt declared all such places were to be off limits to American GI's as there was some concern over another Angeles City/Olongopo developing. My trip there revealed that this was universally igniored and many provincial princesses came to the "big" city to snag a GI. It was well worth the trip and many a lovely dark skinned lass did drop her knickers for a bit O' fencing with the Irish short sword.

Davao, a place I once called home, is not really a mongering city, nor is CDO or Zambo for that matter, not in the same regard as Angeles, Manila or even Cebu, primarily as there is little visitation from westerners it doesn't get the tourist/visitor influx the aformentioned do, ergo less posts. But If you do go such places you will be treated like a king, trust me. But Davao's strong point, like the rest of Mindanao is that you would go there to meet "wife or GF" material, it is best to start online. [/QUOTE][b]Spam Hog, [/b]I’m not into the commercial places like Burgos st. in Manila or Quezon City (I didn’t go to Angeles).

I like it when there’s not many other foreigners around (like Davao) and where GFEs abound.

You say that CDO is a great mongering place and then say it’s not?

As for Zamboanga, as you say that,“It was well worth the trip and many a lovely dark skinned lass did drop her knickers for a bit O' fencing with the Irish short sword” then that's another vote in it’s favour.

[QUOTE=X Man]Any hotel recommendation? If Hendersen comes back alive, I might plan a trip there.[/QUOTE][b]X Man, [/b] you know, the older I get the less scared I get about anything. I’ve been to lots of places in different countries that I was warned against and, other then a few little episodes that were diffused by keeping a cool head, never had any trouble at all.

Here in my home town (London), I’ve had countless arguments and fracas driving or in pubs/clubs.

I would say there is far more aggression in the west than there is in Asia.

The only real thing to be scared of in life is fear itself, cos that stops you living a fulfilled life.

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SH: Great points but SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let us not encourage the Angeles/Makati crowd to brave MUSLIM Mindanao, lest it go the way of Colombia (previously protected by its reputation for violence but now overrun by kooks).

The gal I was chatting with says not to worry in Z city ....since there are plenty of American military guys there.

Hmmm, so, there's competition?

I had a lot of fun drinking with some special forces guys while I was in abc city (city name omitted intentionally). They are a lot of fun, but not to be trifled with. The only thing that pissed me off is that every time I went to a bar after that the girls would ask me, "Where are your friends?" X

Gentlemen you are right, the Spamhog erred, smack me upside the head with rubber chicken, first I said CDO was a great mongering place then I say it isn't. Same with Davao. Lemme explain.

CDO IS a great mongering place "BUT* YOU KNOW WHERE TO GO, you can have a great time, it is CHEAP, THERE ARE LOTS OF GIRLS WHO HAVE NEVER HAD A FOREIGNER and LOTS OF REGULAR GIRLS looking to be your GF even if for the weekend. The vice and sin are NOT as commercialized as one would find in Burgos, Ermita, Makati, Angeles or running around in Osmena Circle bar clusters in Cebu. Those places are pretty much all night debacheries.

But CDO has its little cluster of bars, they also have a "Walking street" that is in the main part of town and Corridoned off around 8pm until midnight or so with outdoor beer bars, live bands, vendors selling all kinda food etc. LOTS of little honeys walking around smiling and saying "HI", a few freelancers here and there and (Be careful) a troup of Byot ladyboys who hang out by
the chow king. There are a few bars and discos where you WILL BE the center of attention. Excite disco is one, Mojo is another, in the later I was constantly flirted with. Yes there are a few go go bars where you can haul one out for the night. I beleive Bada Bing is still open, across the parking lot is a KTV and another club (can't remember the name) that features UBA UBA dancing (Strippers) you can VIP room 'em or barfine 'em.

DAVAO is pretty much the same, There is as MUCH commercial sex there as CEBU IMHO, Cheaper, more low key, BUT once again you have to know WHERE TO GO. I was never much of a one for bars, barfining and KTV's and the like. But by virture of living there I knew the varied establishments and locals for such. Yes going to "ground Zero" and sitting down for a coke I would see the "ladies in White" student nurses who would smile flirt etc. Shopping in the Mall the salesgirls would look a bit too long or some cutie going up the escalator would smile and raise her eyebrows, stuff like that.

One of the BEST places to meet "regular girls" is in the commercial internet cafe's, almost EVERY time I went to certain ones, I would see some honey
giving me the eye. standing over my shoulder trying to get my email, and several times I had one drop her cell phone number on my keyboard.

In BOTH of those locale's I had more opportunity to meet, interact with and know "regular girls" ie wife or GF material, many of them are looking for foreigners, there is a WHOLE ARMY of women in both places who are constantly on the chat lines, some are scamming but a lot are looking for Mr. Right. These girls are a different stripe than the Manila joy junks, even the GRO's, many of them have the manners, grace and heart of the legendary "good" Filipina.

Zambo city was a while back for me, I can't remember the name of the hotel, sorry, but I recall it was just P800 a night and "average". Your "average"
regular girl there is much onthe same order as what you would find in CDO or Davao, Zambo seemed to me more like CDO, however, GI's in buzz cuts very noticible and seemed to have an impact on the mongering situation like raising the prices. Girls are super sweet.


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Spamhog

If you didn't pick up girls very often in Davao I wouldn't count on it being better in Zamboanga. Also, if you want to try other cities I would go to Cagayan or Dumeguete before Zamboanga.

I only went to Zambo once for 5 days and I had some good finds there. Also, I found it completely safe. But percentage wise Davao and also CDO and DGT have a higher density of hot, young things. Davao is just a much bigger city and so it has more and better places to meet girls. And after meeting them there are more and better places to take them out to. The other two have several colleges each so lots of student girlies. The game is all about numbers, giving yourself the best chance to meet the best and most girls the most often.

So if you go to Davao again you may try finding girls online ahead of time. Yes, it takes effort but it pays off. Also, I don't know how assertive you were when you were out hunting but you really do have to make your move. The girls are shy (meaning regular girls, not bargirls). They may make eye contact but the rest is up to you. If you see a chance don't let the moment pass.

Finally, one girl found in 5 days of by the seat of your pants hunting isn't necessarily bad, depending on how high your standards are. If you have no standards and any warm body is fine then you should find something within an hour. But if you're looking for someone that's just right then it's not so easy. I'm quite picky and I only find 1 or 2 girls like this in a week or so, although a lot of my time is taken up with girls that I got to know in advance.

Other things to remember for a short visit is that the day of the week is crucial. There are days (like Sunday) when most places are closed and almost nobody is out. Wednesday to Saturday is best. Also, the fact that places close at 2 doesn't really matter. Most girls worth having will start going home by then anyway.

Zamboanga can be just fine. But again, the more you get to know girls in advance the better. The girls there are really, really shy. And the town being smaller means that the girl's acquaintances WILL see you two together. So she needs to be the kind of girl that can shake off the gossip worries.

You can meet girls here cold turkey. But you could also strike out or have to settle for a plain Jane. As usual, internet cafes are a good place to try. There's only one real mall that I saw.

Safety isn't really an issue in the city. It may be a problem in the surrounding countryside. But I went to a beach 40 minutes outside of town with a family and they were perfectly relaxed about it. I never saw any US military. Maybe they're only there in any numbers when there's an exercise or a bad guy hunt.

I stayed in Garden Orchid Hotel. It's right by the airport and it has one of the possible pickup joints, the downstairs disco. But again the day of the week matters. It was only open on the weekend.

Hopefully you'll have a chance to get to all of these places and let us know your take on them. Get to know a girl in advance and have her meet you at the airport. You'll be glad you did.

[b]Mahku & Spam Hog:[/b] Excellent observations and tips.

[quote=Spam Hog] …There are a few bars and discos where you WILL BE the center of attention. Excite disco is one, Mojo is another, in the later I was constantly flirted with…[/quote]Sounds good. I'll try CDO first then, that also puts me in striking distance of Camiguin. Is Camiguin only good if you have a girl with you?

[quote=Spam Hog] One of the BEST places to meet "regular girls" is in the commercial internet cafe's, almost EVERY time I went to certain ones, I would see some honey giving me the eye. standing over my shoulder trying to get my email, and several times I had one drop her cell phone number on my keyboard.[/quote]I used those places nearly every day, but all I ever saw were kids (mostly boys playing games on the net). Was it because I went during the day when the regular girls were working or were they the wrong internet places as they were all geared towards game playing?

Like you Mahku, I'm also very picky. Too picky probably- always looking for the one that stands out from the crowd.

Like you both say, there’s a very high percentage of girls from Mindanao on websites like AsianEuro and FilipinaHeart and they do look very GFE.

But how do you line up several girls from the same city and see them all?

If you don’t like one after the first day isn’t it hard to get rid of her? Remember you’ve already built up a relationship with her on the net so she now feels she’s your GF. And if she meets you at the airport then even more so. She will also know your hotel etc. And in a small place (like CDO) she or her friends are going to see you when you go the discos/clubs at night hunting after you've dumped her.

[QUOTE=Mahku]… Also, I don't know how assertive you were when you were out hunting but you really do have to make your move. The girls are shy (meaning regular girls, not bargirls). They may make eye contact but the rest is up to you. If you see a chance don't let the moment pass.[/quote]You know, I was never sure of how forward I could be without running the risk of causing offence in a strict Catholic country. And the trouble is that they are all smiley and friendly all the time so I didn’t know whether that was a come on or them just being polite. After all. the guys are also very friendly and smiley and I’m sure that wasn’t come ons.

[quote=Mahku] Other things to remember for a short visit is that the day of the week is crucial.[/quote]You’re right there, Mahku, the beginning of the week was completely dead in Davao.