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[QUOTE=Laylow3]Anyone ever make their way up north to the areas of Laoag, Ilocos Norte for the purpose of mongering/picking up ladies. I was there also during my last trip but I couldn't go by myself since I was visiting my wife's family. I mean I was with her male cousins the entire fucking time and they didn't take me to not one club or venue that had babes. I told my wife that this time I'll be going out by myself often WITHOUT her annoying ass family accompanying me every fucking place I go.

A/QUOTE]
How about just telling her that you refuse to stay with her family in some boring hole in bumblefuck and that you will not be going with her, but will meet her in Manila or elsewhere when she's completed the family visit? I cannot imagine letting a woman or a woman's family having that much control over my life.

[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]How many kids do you have under 18 that you will be paying child support for or how many in college. How much of your retirement, stock and investments are you willing to lose just to try to dodge her and her family for a strange piece of ass in the Phils? [/QUOTE]

That is why, among other reasons, I think it is a bad idea to marry a Filipina. Before that she is a cute young thing willing to do anything for you. After that she does what she wants with you, she grows into an old ***** and you can't get away from that thing. All the while, you are surrounded by tempting beauties and you can't have a taste of them!

Where's the fun in that?

[QUOTE]
How about just telling her that you refuse to stay with her family in some boring hole in bumblefuck and that you will not be going with her, but will meet her in Manila or elsewhere when she's completed the family visit? I cannot imagine letting a woman or a woman's family having that much control over my life.[/QUOTE]
Exactly.

One of my neighbors in the Philippines is married to a Filipina and bought the house there (under her name of course). He lives in the house 2-3 weeks a year, which is about how much holidays he gets from his job in Germany. For his entire holiday most of what he does is visit her family!

I find that incredibly boring. If I go on holidays in the Philippines I limit my visit/inviting to the strict minimum, but that poor guy does not have a choice. Is that a holiday at all?

I use that opportunity to make a very quick report of my recent visit in the Philippines, mostly from memory. I may not get all the names right.

Spent a short week in Calbayog, Samar. The big advantage of that town is that it is one of the very few in Samar that has an airport.

The town is extremely provincial. Most of the taxis are just pedicab (bicycle) - which actually gives a rare gently and quiet atmosphere. The town is clean and green and surprisingly the people do not really bother you that much. The countryside is beautiful, with green rice fields scenery's and backdrop mountains. For that matter, the landing alone is spectacular.

One of best hotels is a little bit out of town and called Marju-crisel. Rooms are not bad for around 1000 pesos but the big asset is their very big public swimming pool. During the week-end it's full of people. Occasionally you can meet someone there and bring to your room. I almost succeeded in doing that but that delicious looking girl was with friends, so although she really wanted to come in she only got as far as the room entrance. Food is just normal Filipino food (read: nothing really edible for Westerners). They do have wireless Internet, though the girls at the reception will tell that you they don't.

Another interesting place is something called Bacagay resort. It's much closer to town and is a beach. Rooms are really not posh at all (to say the least) but cost only 300 pesos for 24 hours and mostly to be used to fuck local beach beauties you may me lucky enough to find there. Beach and water are nothing special, but it is a beach nevertheless. It's also not bad in the evening, where you can have a quiet candle light diner in a rented hut. Bring your own food though.

Do not go to Malajog or Malaho beach. It's really far (with those slow tricycles) and there is nothing there apart from an overcrowded and dirty beach with no lodging at all even for the day. You will read that the beach is known because celebrities from Manila go there. That's a lie. It may have been the case back when the water may have been clean if that ever happened, but it certainly is not the case now.

Usually, the most lively place in any city is on the "plaza", especially early evening. In Calbayog, however, the plaza, which is in front of the (beautiful) Cathedral, is mostly empty. The meeting place is in the park that is just front of the Jolibee and along the river. Met some girls there but did not succeed in bringing them to my room. I was all enthralled when they agreed to come with me for "gimmick" but not so enthralled anymore when I found out they thought gimmick was food.

"Gimmick? Sure! Where?" (Denom now gets all very excited!)
"In hotel"
"oh, hotel? No no no! Jolibee OK!"

:(

You may get something eventually if you are very persistent but you'll need a lot of time. And did I mention you need to speak at least some Tagalog? No, I forgot to mention it...

Mongering-wise at night is quiet. There are the usual karaoke bars and such (about a hand full or a dozen at most). You will find there the type of girls that usually inhabit those abodes- which may do the trick if you are desperate. They also have in town a few very accommodating short time hotels. One of them is "3 guys" or something like that "(something with 3 anyway) near the Ice Plant hotel (that has slow-Internet and noisy rooms for 700 pesos). Another one is at the entrance of baragay Payahan or something.

There are however many opportunities, but, apart from the laborious and time-consuming courting, you will need to know people who know people who know people who know gems who may be willing. That was my case, so the trip was well worth it - plus it was also an overall pleasant quiet green country town discovery. That's what they call sexual tourism I guess.

Even if you don't know anybody, it may be worth to make a quick jump there for the week-end, provided your expectations are not too high. Maybe even bring your own girl with you. The fare is ridiculously low, and it probably won't take long before the bicycles are replaced with noisy polluting motorbike, turning this quiet town into a far too common Filipino nightmare city.

If you are short of time and are happy with bar girls, though, just go to Angeles instead. Many if not most of the girls there come from Samar anyway.

@Puerto La Cruz - If i can escape to AC or Olongapo then the chances of her finding out about me are very low I think. Ilocos norte is pretty far away from AC or Olongapo.

@GoodEnough - but I want to play with the ladies at least for a week or so while I’m there. I think as long as there is a couple of hours distance between us then I should be safe.

@Denom - well, I’m married to her already so that’s that. No way out buddy, no refunds. hehe

[QUOTE=Laylow3]@Puerto La Cruz - If i can escape to AC or Olongapo then the chances of her finding out about me are very low I think. Ilocos norte is pretty far away from AC or Olongapo. [/QUOTE]You're dreaming..."Honey, I think I will take a side trip to the most notorious red-light city in the country, because you know, they have great food there."

Not gonna happen. You read about a couple of married guys here who sport around, but they live here and 1) have semi-legit reasons to fly to other cities or 2) since their wives are in PI, not USA, the wives have less absolute control over their assets.

Now if you have a real friend who lives somewhere in the PI, and wants to invite you to go golfing, diving... maybe?

[QUOTE=Jambo]You're dreaming..."Honey, I think I will take a side trip to the most notorious red-light city in the country, because you know, they have great food there."

Now if you have a real friend who lives somewhere in the PI, and wants to invite you to go golfing, diving... maybe?[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the quick catch, Jambo. Yes, I'll have to tell her another city. I'm working on it along with a good story.

Well not all is lost. Its possible in your retirement you can coax her back to the PI to live, and then you can root around in the outlying areas. Good luck with that though. Once she gets a high-paying job in the US, she may never want to leave.

Thank you Denom, it's been a long time since anyone reported from Samar. I think it may have been Mahku who had luck in Calboyog with a department store gal.

Did you have any Internet gals lined up? X

[QUOTE=Denom]I use that opportunity to make a very quick report of my recent visit in the Philippines, mostly from memory. I may not get all the names right.

Spent a short week in Calbayog, Samar. The big advantage of that town is that it is one of the very few in Samar that has an airport.

The town is extremely provincial. Most of the taxis are just pedicab (bicycle) - which actually gives a rare gently and quiet atmosphere. The town is clean and green and surprisingly the people do not really bother you that much. The countryside is beautiful, with green rice fields scenery's and backdrop mountains. For that matter, the landing alone is spectacular.

One of best hotels is a little bit out of town and called Marju-crisel. Rooms are not bad for around 1000 pesos but the big asset is their very big public swimming pool. During the week-end it's full of people. Occasionally you can meet someone there and bring to your room. I almost succeeded in doing that but that delicious looking girl was with friends, so although she really wanted to come in she only got as far as the room entrance. Food is just normal Filipino food (read: nothing really edible for Westerners). They do have wireless Internet, though the girls at the reception will tell that you they don't.

Another interesting place is something called Bacagay resort. It's much closer to town and is a beach. Rooms are really not posh at all (to say the least) but cost only 300 pesos for 24 hours and mostly to be used to fuck local beach beauties you may me lucky enough to find there. Beach and water are nothing special, but it is a beach nevertheless. It's also not bad in the evening, where you can have a quiet candle light diner in a rented hut. Bring your own food though.

Do not go to Malajog or Malaho beach. It's really far (with those slow tricycles) and there is nothing there apart from an overcrowded and dirty beach with no lodging at all even for the day. You will read that the beach is known because celebrities from Manila go there. That's a lie. It may have been the case back when the water may have been clean if that ever happened, but it certainly is not the case now.

Usually, the most lively place in any city is on the "plaza", especially early evening. In Calbayog, however, the plaza, which is in front of the (beautiful) Cathedral, is mostly empty. The meeting place is in the park that is just front of the Jolibee and along the river. Met some girls there but did not succeed in bringing them to my room. I was all enthralled when they agreed to come with me for "gimmick" but not so enthralled anymore when I found out they thought gimmick was food.

"Gimmick? Sure! Where?" (Denom now gets all very excited!)
"In hotel"
"oh, hotel? No no no! Jolibee OK!"

:(

You may get something eventually if you are very persistent but you'll need a lot of time. And did I mention you need to speak at least some Tagalog? No, I forgot to mention it...

Mongering-wise at night is quiet. There are the usual karaoke bars and such (about a hand full or a dozen at most). You will find there the type of girls that usually inhabit those abodes- which may do the trick if you are desperate. They also have in town a few very accommodating short time hotels. One of them is "3 guys" or something like that "(something with 3 anyway) near the Ice Plant hotel (that has slow-Internet and noisy rooms for 700 pesos). Another one is at the entrance of baragay Payahan or something.

There are however many opportunities, but, apart from the laborious and time-consuming courting, you will need to know people who know people who know people who know gems who may be willing. That was my case, so the trip was well worth it - plus it was also an overall pleasant quiet green country town discovery. That's what they call sexual tourism I guess.

Even if you don't know anybody, it may be worth to make a quick jump there for the week-end, provided your expectations are not too high. Maybe even bring your own girl with you. The fare is ridiculously low, and it probably won't take long before the bicycles are replaced with noisy polluting motorbike, turning this quiet town into a far too common Filipino nightmare city.

If you are short of time and are happy with bar girls, though, just go to Angeles instead. Many if not most of the girls there come from Samar anyway.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Denom] You may get something eventually if you are very persistent but you'll need a lot of time. And did I mention you need to speak at least some Tagalog? No, I forgot to mention it... [/QUOTE]
I think most people in Samar speak either Waray-Waray or Cebuano. For us non-native speakers it all sounds like Tagalog, but it isn't in this case.

An excellent and informative report, Denom.

Skip post - yes, definitely Waray, but my Tagalog went down just fine. Either there is not that much a difference between the two (waray means wala in Tagalog etc) or most people speak Tagalog on top of their local dialect because schools are taught in Tagalog. Alas English gets lost more and more.

X Man - no Internet gals. I don't really have time to spent on Internet chat though that would be an additional asset. I just rely on live people and have learned after many years in the Philippines that it is more important to befriend Filipino men who can help you on the field than try to befriend Filipina girls, because on your own you would not get very far and would only scratch the surface. They will be the ones to look around for me while I just enjoy my holiday at the beach or whatever. Much more easy, but not that easy to find the right kind of help.

For example I remember once going out of LA Cafe alone, having found nothing at all (the quantity of girls over there those days is very high but the quality very low). Then as I go out I bump into this 20 years-old girl selling flowers outside. She was lovely, skinny, and brown skinned. To my eyes she was more pretty than any other girls inside but there was no way I could convince her to come with me. All she wanted was to sell me her flower, not her pussy. I then called one of my Filipino friend to the rescue and after much talk managed to convince her. I could not have done that by myself.

As it turned out, she was absolutely great at BBBJ and even swallowed it all. I still get excited just thinking about it as I write. Big surprise coming from this innocent-looking girl who for the first time went with a foreigner. She said she learned this from her Filipino boyfriend (classical story, meet boyfriend fairly young, make baby, boyfriend running away, now need to feed baby...).She was also very sweet, not like the more experienced girls inside LA.

I tried to encourage her. In the morning, on top of a very large tip (I don't remember but I think I may even have given her 3,000), I bought her a cell phone and a sim card. I must say I also did that because I wanted to call her back sometime, which I never did for lack of time and being too busy with other girls.

If all goes well she may still be standing there outside LA as this happened just a little more than a month ago. Her name is Jean. I think after the tip I gave her she may be looking to repeat the experience. It is not likely that she will ever go inside. The standard of "beauty" in the Philippines is to be very white, straight hair, and slightly chubby. Not thin and especially not brown skinned with curly hairs. Try her if you see her - the BBBJ is just amazing and she is really sweet.

Bacolod is one of those “Other Areas” which provides a smaller but good alternative to mainstream ISG cities. It lies in the north western end of Negros Island, in the province of Negros Occidental. I spent a week there and this posting endeavours to summarise the city and local scene.

I should first acknowledge some of the previous solid postings on the subject of Bacolod:
Questor 55 on 20th Jan 2010, (in the Dumaguete thread) [url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=978671#post978671[/url]
Brown Rail 16th Jul 2008 [url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=766248#post766248[/url]
AgentOrange 15th Dec 2007 [url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=681600#post681600[/url]
Gangles 15th Nov 2008 [url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=813042#post813042[/url]

Bacolod is a city spread over flat country and has a population of about half a million. It is trumpeted as “the cleanest and greenest and most liveable cities in the Philippines” but frankly I doubt if you would find a clean beach within 50 kms of the city. There is a very good city overview at [url]http://www.bacolodcity.gov.ph/bacolod_city.htm[/url] including a city map and a listing of accommodations (hotels, inns, pensions and resorts) and their rates. Another good guide is the “EZ Map of Negros and Siquijor” costing 100 pesos at the National Book Store and some hotel lobbies. It includes street maps of Bacolod and Dumaguete Cities.

The new Bacolod-Silay airport is about 15kms, or 20 minutes, north of the town and costing about 400 pesos for a taxi ride or 150 in a shuttle van to your hotel. The airport is well served with a 55 minute link from Manila and a 30 minute link from Cebu-Mactan airport. Shipping links exist to Manila (20 hours) and an hour from Iloilo on the island of Panay. A 5-6 hour air-con Ceres coach travels 4 times daily between Bacolod and Dumaguete, costing about 250 pesos from memory. The journey is through interesting sugar cane, rice growing and coffee growing (at higher altitudes) but the extensive road concreting forcing single lane travel makes the trip slow and tiring.

I based myself and spent most of my time in the “Goldenfields Entertainment Complex”. This is about 2.5 kms south of the city off to the left of Areneta Street. This is the area to be and includes the Pagcor Casino, hotels, indoor and outdoor restaurants, bars, KTVs, nightclubs, bowling lanes, and a great swimming complex. MO2 Days Inn Hotel (photo 1) offered good basic services for 800 pesos a night, including wifi in the room (if you pick the right room –otherwise in the lobby and restaurant). Adjacent Kundutel Hotel (photo 2), same owners, was more upmarket, with a superior room for 1000 pesos. The Bacolod casino itself (photo 3) offers good accommodation.

The go-go bars were pretty mediocre and the prices somewhat outrageous. Some may like it but I found a 6 month pregnant pole-dancer somewhat deflating. Bar-fines were over 3000 and ladies drinks 250 plus. For a provincial town this exceeded Manila and Angeles rates! Monday to Thursday it was somewhat thin pickings but the area became alive for the weekend. Wild Cat, entrance 2 drinks per person, had a reasonable floor show the most enjoyable for me was a pretty polished non-stop 10pm-2am variety acts at Black Velvet (photo 4); but not really a pick-up bar. I went back there 3 times with my partner.

Filipinos are very generally-speaking very talented musically (spoilt by some over-confident videoke “performers” primed by Red Horse!). Chicken Alley restaurant (photo 5) had great bands and vocalists and gave good vibes.

The Goldenfields complex has plenty of open area bars and restaurants. You can hardly be left alone without some tout offering young ladies. At the entrance to Goldenfields from about 6pm onwards, a private van or two is stationed and supplies young women, often students. Going rate for foreigners seemed to be 1500 for short time (up to 3 hours) but this could be negotiated down to about 700 pesos. There seemed to be a well established system in place. Behind Days Inn was a couple of so-called “lodges” with roll-in garages at 150 pesos for three hours (photo 6). I never took up this opportunity! I was more into fraternising with chat-mates and my Bacolod adventure is summarised in the “Chat Rooms and Pen Pals” thread.

KongKing

[QUOTE=KongKing]Bacolod is one of those “Other Areas” which provides a smaller but good alternative to mainstream ISG cities. KongKing[/QUOTE]Thank you very much Kong King. That is a really excellent report. It sounds like an out of the way place that I would like to visit. For some reason I have an attraction to out of the way women.

Could you tell me anything about the casino? How large, how many tables, what type of card games they have or is it all slot machines? Do they have a craps table?

Kongking, I am in awe. Your report on Bacolod was such a thorough and

Professional job, that I realize I've got a long way to go to even consider being in your league! We both failed to mention the very large, modern

Shopping mall complex about 1km. From downtown. Name escapes me.

Do you remember? It struck me as uncharted, but potentially very fertile territory. I think we're on the same wavelength about Bacolod. Definitely worthwhile for anyone with 'game', time, and inclination to venture off the well-beaten tracks.

I was unaware of the swimming pool complex you mentioned and would appreciate any additional information.

Again, thanks for your excellent, informative report!

If you get time, please elaborate on the this strategy of getting guys to search out women for you. Are these guys pimps from the get go?

I've never told this story before since it would give ammunition to some of the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] takers -- CS, try to restrain yourself.

Here goes: a very feminine gay guy approaches. I resist the urge to turn and walk away. He doesn't proposition me, but strikes up a conversation. At some points he offers to get a girl for me. Okay, why not. In the end he brought be a real stunner. As you know, women tend to trust these types of "men". He and plenty of ladies on offer. X



[QUOTE=Denom]
I just rely on live people and have learned after many years in the Philippines that it is more important to befriend Filipino men who can help you on the field than try to befriend Filipina girls, because on your own you would not get very far and would only scratch the surface. They will be the ones to look around for me while I just enjoy my holiday at the beach or whatever. Much more easy, but not that easy to find the right kind of help.

(good story snipped).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Devils 1]Thank you very much KongKing. That is a really excellent report. It sounds like an out of the way place that I would like to visit. For some reason I have an attraction to out of the way women.

Could you tell me anything about the casino? How large, how many tables, what type of card games they have or is it all slot machines? Do they have a craps table?[/QUOTE]
Thanks Devils 1 for that feedback.

I am not really into casinos but this one gave me 4000 pesos (when I withdrew that amount from their ATM machine!). It is smaller than the Davao Hotel Regal casino. Their gaming table details are here: [url]http://www.pagcor.ph/bacolod/games.html[/url]
Cheers, KongKing

[QUOTE=X Man]If you get time, please elaborate on the this strategy of getting guys to search out women for you. Are these guys pimps from the get go? [/QUOTE]

Sometimes but not always. Could be taxi drivers or acquaintances or friends of friends. I first talk general subject with them to see if they are people I can get along with to start with and only if they pass the test I may (or not) start to talk to them about what I am looking for. Like this you build up a network over the years. Of course I have been living here for so long too, it may be more difficult for the casual tourist, but still possible I guess.

Think about this. If you go in a mall and wish to talk to a pretty girl, it may be very easy, but it is also very visible, because as a foreigner you very much stand out among others. The girl may be very shy because of that as well. Ask a local to speak to her instead while you stay at a distance, and it gets much easier.

It also is something cultural to the Philippines. For example, if you organize a party, you need to get the locals you invite to confirm whether they will come or not by sending another local to ask them, because to you they will not dare say no. What will happen is that they will say yes to you and then just not come. To a local go-between, they will dare say no.

I don't want to spend my time courting the girls - unless of course I really like her. I want to know if she is interested to have sex with me for money yes or no. If the girl is not in the profession, it's a tricky things to ask from the get go. However, it is relatively easy for a local to do it for you. When they know me well and know my taste, they can just look around for me on their own.

Sometimes they can even find arrangements with the girl's boyfriend! You will be surprised on how many would agree because they get part of the share! And that's another aspect. The most beautiful girls in the Philippines get engaged with their classmate, neighbor or friends at a very young age and never "released" afterwards. Their boyfriend will not let them go, and most of the time they are being taken care of anyway so no need to search something else. That is the reason why the quality of girls in professional venues are so low. Just compare the amount of beautiful girls you see in the street and those you see in professional venues. To get something better you need to go off the beaten track, and this is were your go-between, if you get a good one, is invaluable.

So anyway, just to say that while mongering in the Philippines, it is as important to make friends with the men too, not only the girls. They will know the local geography very well, where to go, who to ask and who not to ask, and sometimes if they are good they will indeed bring stunners out of nowhere.

Gentlemen,

I plan to spend a week in Boracay in March.

I have RTFF and also searched many hotel finding sites, but I do not have a clear idea of suitable places.

Does anyone have recent experience if reasonable, 3 star midrange hotels, maybe $50 or so per night.

Thanks in advance,

Gangles

[QUOTE=Questor 55]Kongking, I am in awe. Your report on Bacolod was such a thorough and professional job, that I realize I've got a long way to go to even consider being in your league!

We both failed to mention the very large, modern shopping mall complex about 1km. From downtown. Name escapes me. Do you remember? It struck me as uncharted, but potentially very fertile territory. I think we're on the same wavelength about Bacolod. Definitely worthwhile for anyone with 'game', time, and inclination to venture off the well-beaten tracks.

I was unaware of the swimming pool complex you mentioned and would appreciate any additional information.

Again, thanks for your excellent, informative report![/QUOTE]
Thanks for your comments Questor 55. [I tried to send you a personal message a few days ago but you are not on PM. We seem to be covering much the same circuit at the moment!]

Re your two questions. I should have mentioned more about the "Caribbean Water Park and Resotel". It is situated on the right going into the Goldenfield Complex, after the KTV and billiard bars and before the bowling lanes, Chicken Alley and Pagcor casino. It is a great water park, a number of pools and jacuzzi. There are many newish accommodation units and next time I will probably stay there (Businessman's Suite for 1500 pesos). The Nipa Huts and cabins offer daytime (short-time?) possibilities. More details at [url]www.caribbean-waterpark.com[/url]

The large modern shopping complex you are referring to is Gaisano City, about a kilometre back towards town from Goldenfields. Yep it is new and has good potential for casual contacts. And so has the bigger dual unit SM in the centre of the city. [url]http://wikimapia.org/1670305/Gaisano-City[/url]
KongKing

[QUOTE=KongKing]Thanks for your comments Questor 55. [I tried to send you a personal message a few days ago but you are not on PM. We seem to be covering much the same circuit at the moment!]

Re your two questions. I should have mentioned more about the "Caribbean Water Park and Resotel". It is situated on the right going into the Goldenfield Complex, after the KTV and billiard bars and before the bowling lanes, Chicken Alley and Pagcor casino. It is a great water park, a number of pools and jacuzzi. There are many newish accommodation units and next time I will probably stay there (Businessman's Suite for 1500 pesos). The Nipa Huts and cabins offer daytime (short-time?) possibilities. More details at [url]www.caribbean-waterpark.com[/url]

The large modern shopping complex you are referring to is Gaisano City, about a kilometre back towards town from Goldenfields. Yep it is new and has good potential for casual contacts. And so has the bigger dual unit SM in the centre of the city. [url]http://wikimapia.org/1670305/Gaisano-City[/url]
KongKing[/QUOTE]Hi guys,

I haven't posted for awhile, but 2 foot of snow and a bottle of wine makes me miss the life.

Bocolod., stayed at the Caribbean Water Park last year.

Very nice, the units are condo style. Bedroom/wc upstairs, livingroom/kichenette downstairs.

Front porch is in line with the other units., all fronting the pool-park on the lawn.

Not cheap, but a great place to entertain the GF's family, if you have to handle the horde.

Friendly staff can run errands for sundries., or more.

At the front enterance to Goldenfields is a Italian restro open for yankee breakfast. And they got an expressso machine! And a decent wine list!

All's good at Goldenfields, you can find anything you need, plus gambling.they got slots, card tables, no craps tho.

The p4p I saw was very low-ball, lotta girls hanging in their bars to the left of the entrance, very few mongers.

Forget the touts, 500p lt works.

Better to byob there tho., someone you like. 'Cause if you've been in the sticks Negros with your honey, Goldenfields a place to unwind.

Have to tell you guys 'about this hotel I found.

Damedest place I've ever paid to sleep.

It's about a half click from Goldenfields, I walked it, out the 'back' enterance to Goldenfields.same road, just continue thru.

It's called, Tam-Tam #2, or Tyi-Tyi #2?.don't matter, the cabbies know.

This place is a 'short-time drive-thru'.ya drive up to the window., buy your key., drive thru into a compound., just like a U-store place, garage doors.

Drive to your garage, open, drive in, close garage door., key opens the room.

No windows, mirrors round, porn tv., LOL.

Very cheap., by the hour was like 1200p for a day? HaHa!

Oh boy, what a franchise!

This is where the Pinoy mongers play.

They can find you a girl too if you show up empty.

Tell you one thing tho, that place was the quietest room I've slept in throughout the whole country.like a tomb.

Happy trails,

Ratszo

It's been over a year, but someone was asking about nice and convenient beaches. I found Borocay over commercialized and the next best thing would be the much smaller (1500 meters?), quieter, white sand beach called Alona or Ahlona on Panglao island.

THere are a few bars, but I would bring a gal with you or at least have some dates set up with some online gals.

You can fly into the Bohol capital, Tagbilaran. I didn't. I took Ocean jet ferry from pier 1 in Cebu. It's a scenic ride and gets you to Tagbilaran in 90 minutes. From there the taxi would be 20 to 30 min to the beach.

[url]http://www.oceanjet.net/[/url]

Pictures:
one of the higher priced resorts, an example of someone's byob (bring your own babe), Alona beach

I just spent a week in boracay. Been back in the US for 2 weeks now. I stayed at willy beach resort. I had the suite with breakfast for two every morning and a set dinner for one night. Cost me around $20, 000 pesos. Big room. I had my number one in tow so I went big instead of cheap. Right on the beach in zone 3. Willys rock is right out front and is one of the draws of the island. I enjoyed the stay there. Depending on what you want is what zone you want to stay in. Quieter zone is zone 3. Very quiet and easy to sit on the beach at night and just relax. Zone 2 is more noisy and has more nightclubs and restaurants. I ate most of the meals in that area. Good music and and good nightlife. Not a lot of nightlife but respectable. I ate at the steakhouse, (the actual name of the steakhouse) if you want something instead of chicken rice and so one. A german guy owns it and it is a good spot for an actual good steak. You can text or call ahead and get a table on the porch outside reserved, look it up when you get there if you like. I didn't go to zone 1 but for some shopping so I can't comment on it. At willys when you reserve a room they pick you up at the airport and take you escorted all the way to the resort. If you book there tell them that your family has stayed there before. I said it because my girl had stayed there before with her family. They gave me an instant 20% discount off the top no questions asked! So good luck and have fun. My 2 pesos worth of information anyway.

Norske 1

i arrived in at the airport in cdo after 7pm. the flight from davao cost around p1600, give or take a few peso’s. excess baggage fee…p5300! i shouldn’t have brought so much chocolate with me.

i noted the difference between cdo and davao as soon as the taxi driver opened his mouth. p500 to the malberry he said. i told him he was crazy! bakit walang metro? why no meter? he said it was too late in the evening, that’s how it’s done…yada yada yada! i got him down to p300. i don’t understand why the airport allows this to happen on their property. they should see to the customers needs, and make sure this kind of robbery doesn’t happen until we are off their property at the least. i miss davao already.

i check in at the malberry into a deluxe suite. as soon as i arrived at my room, the first thing that stood out was the construction curtain separating the rest of the hallway from where my room door ended. “under construction?”, i asked the bellhop. “yes sir, from 8am til 5pm”. you have got to be shitting me!

room 209 was not impressive. i immediately noticed the column of ants marching up and down three of the four walls. the towels in the bathroom were almost thread-bare, and the noise from the street was fairly loud. i’ve stayed in better rooms for a lot less. i knew i would be moving out to the marco in cugman the next day!

after a good shower i took a taxi to spooks club to check out the selection. i had several chat mates lined up to meet, but i wanted easy access puss that evening, not chat mate drama. the selection wasn’t bad at spooks. they just didn’t have girls who were my type. i sat and downed a few drinks and called a guy from texas i had met in the airport in manila who was supposed to be in cdo. he was staying at lamar inn not far away, so he shoots over to spooks to join me there. evidently there are no women there that are his type either, so he suggests we go to the pulse disco around the corner.

nothing doing at pulse. the selection of women there was mediocre at best. we downed a few drinks and left. next stop: hot babes on j.r. borja borgos st.

what a cess pool! hot babes is the worst shit hole i have been in to date in the philippines. you immediately catch the smell of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] when you walk through the door, and the club is dark and dank. if the girl on stage hadn’t been a hot mother f’er we would have been out the door in seconds, but we took one look at her and decided to have at least one drink. there where several 8-9’s in that little shit hole! i couldn’t believe it! a big, fat, nasty looking mamas an approaches us and ask us if we want girls. i tell mama that i’m looking for a girl that can give a great blow job. she calls a girl #5 over. she sits down and i buy her a drink. i like everything about her so i decide to bf her. my friend finds a girl he likes, but declines to take her telling me he has something lined up later that night already. while we are sitting there admiring the girl dancing on stage, mama asks me for 100 peso’s. i ask her why, but she just smiles and says, “you’ll see!” she takes my 100 peso’s and wraps it around the top of a san miguel light bottle then calls the girl off stage. she comes over, climbs on to my table and starts dancing over the bottle. she eventually squats and sits on the long neck bottle, gives a few pumps, and sucks the 100 peso note into her ****. impressive for the philippines being that you don’t see that sort of thing here much anymore. i pay mama the peso 1500 for the bf and i’m out of there.

near the hotel girl #5 tells me she forgot her id card, so instead of risking her being denied entrance at the malberry we head for a st hotel. once there we took showers and got right to work. i’m wondering if mamasan had a dick, because she was right about girl #5…she sure could suck a mean dick! we did the usual stuff in bed and fell asleep wrapped around each other. i woke her up early for another round because i had to run back to the malberry to make check-out time. we took showers. i got her digits, gave her peso 1000 tip, and i headed for the malberry.

checked into the marco hotel in cugman at peso 1250 for a deluxe room with a large balcony area. quoted rate was peso 1300 or more, but they gave me a discount for some reason. i was much happier with the arrangements at the marco. the pool is very large and great for swimming laps, there’s a separate warm water pool for relaxing, there’s a fairly nice fitness gym, and even a climbing wall if your into that sort of thing. the only draw back is the food at the restaurant. it bites!

i get settled in and call a chat mate who i had been chatting with for several months to let her know i’m in town. she wants to meet. lucky me! my night is set.

i meet girl #6 near her home and we decide on seafood at a place called dabin dagit in a nearby town known for seafood restaurants. she lets me know early that she has to be home before 11pm or her father will be angry, explaining that since she is living in his house, and that he is paying her education bills, she has to respect his wishes even if she’s 22 years old. i’m cool with it so we head to dinner. after stuffing ourselves on good food washed down with white wine, we headed for the night market in divisoria. girl #6 is quite tipsy from the wine. quite tipsy indeed!

we set ourselves up near a live band and order several red horse beers, the beer of choice for many filipinos. we drink and gyrate to the music. girl #5 from the previous night texts me and asks me where i am. i tell her i’m in divisoria with a friend. 30 minutes later she walks by me and girl #6 sitting at our table. i have to remember not to answer a text like that when i’m already pre-occupied. i notice a lot of fine looking women in divisoria who are also noticing me. i like the night market.

11pm comes and goes and i remind girl #6 that she has to get home. she looks at me in a drunken haze and tells me she can’t go home like that or her father will be furious. we head to my room at the marco.

we fuck and suck the rest of the night away. she had class in the morning so she was up and about before 9am so we showered and went to breakfast. i sensed that she wasn’t looking for any peso’s from me, so i had the hotel call her a taxi and sent her on her way.

yella man

[quote=yella man]i arrived in at the airport in cdo after 7pm. the flight from davao cost around p1600, give or take a few peso's. excess baggage fee p5300! i shouldn't have brought so much chocolate with me.

i noted the difference between cdo and davao as soon as the taxi driver opened his mouth. p500 to the malberry he said. i told him he was crazy! bakit walang metro? why no meter? he said it was too late in the evening, that's how it's done yada yada yada! i got him down to p300. i don't understand why the airport allows this to happen on their property. they should see to the customers needs, and make sure this kind of robbery doesn't happen until we are off their property at the least. i miss davao already.

i check in at the malberry into a deluxe suite. as soon as i arrived at my room, the first thing that stood out was the construction curtain separating the rest of the hallway from where my room door ended. "under construction? ", i asked the bellhop. "yes sir, from 8am til 5pm". you have got to be shitting me!

room 209 was not impressive. i immediately noticed the column of ants marching up and down three of the four walls. the towels in the bathroom were almost thread-bare, and the noise from the street was fairly loud. i've stayed in better rooms for a lot less. i knew i would be moving out to the marco in cugman the next day!

after a good shower i took a taxi to spooks club to check out the selection. i had several chat mates lined up to meet, but i wanted easy access puss that evening, not chat mate drama. the selection wasn't bad at spooks. they just didn't have girls who were my type. i sat and downed a few drinks and called a guy from texas i had met in the airport in manila who was supposed to be in cdo. he was staying at lamar inn not far away, so he shoots over to spooks to join me there. evidently there are no women there that are his type either, so he suggests we go to the pulse disco around the corner.

nothing doing at pulse. the selection of women there was mediocre at best. we downed a few drinks and left. next stop: hot babes on j. r. borja borgos st.

what a cess pool! hot babes is the worst shit hole i have been in to date in the philippines. you immediately catch the smell of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] when you walk through the door, and the club is dark and dank. if the girl on stage hadn't been a hot mother f'er we would have been out the door in seconds, but we took one look at her and decided to have at least one drink. there where several 8-9's in that little shit hole! i couldn't believe it! a big, fat, nasty looking mamas an approaches us and ask us if we want girls. i tell mama that i'm looking for a girl that can give a great blow job. she calls a girl #5 over. she sits down and i buy her a drink. i like everything about her so i decide to bf her. my friend finds a girl he likes, but declines to take her telling me he has something lined up later that night already. while we are sitting there admiring the girl dancing on stage, mama asks me for 100 peso's. i ask her why, but she just smiles and says, "you'll see! " she takes my 100 peso's and wraps it around the top of a san miguel light bottle then calls the girl off stage. she comes over, climbs on to my table and starts dancing over the bottle. she eventually squats and sits on the long neck bottle, gives a few pumps, and sucks the 100 peso note into her ****. impressive for the philippines being that you don't see that sort of thing here much anymore. i pay mama the peso 1500 for the bf and i'm out of there.

near the hotel girl #5 tells me she forgot her id card, so instead of risking her being denied entrance at the malberry we head for a st hotel. once there we took showers and got right to work. i'm wondering if mamasan had a dick, because she was right about girl #5 she sure could suck a mean dick! we did the usual stuff in bed and fell asleep wrapped around each other. i woke her up early for another round because i had to run back to the malberry to make check-out time. we took showers. i got her digits, gave her peso 1000 tip, and i headed for the malberry.

checked into the marco hotel in cugman at peso 1250 for a deluxe room with a large balcony area. quoted rate was peso 1300 or more, but they gave me a discount for some reason. i was much happier with the arrangements at the marco. the pool is very large and great for swimming laps, there's a separate warm water pool for relaxing, there's a fairly nice fitness gym, and even a climbing wall if your into that sort of thing. the only draw back is the food at the restaurant. it bites!

i get settled in and call a chat mate who i had been chatting with for several months to let her know i'm in town. she wants to meet. lucky me! my night is set.

i meet girl #6 near her home and we decide on seafood at a place called dabin dagit in a nearby town known for seafood restaurants. she lets me know early that she has to be home before 11pm or her father will be angry, explaining that since she is living in his house, and that he is paying her education bills, she has to respect his wishes even if she's 22 years old. i'm cool with it so we head to dinner. after stuffing ourselves on good food washed down with white wine, we headed for the night market in divisoria. girl #6 is quite tipsy from the wine. quite tipsy indeed!

we set ourselves up near a live band and order several red horse beers, the beer of choice for many filipinos. we drink and gyrate to the music. girl #5 from the previous night texts me and asks me where i am. i tell her i'm in divisoria with a friend. 30 minutes later she walks by me and girl #6 sitting at our table. i have to remember not to answer a text like that when i'm already pre-occupied. i notice a lot of fine looking women in divisoria who are also noticing me. i like the night market.

11pm comes and goes and i remind girl #6 that she has to get home. she looks at me in a drunken haze and tells me she can't go home like that or her father will be furious. we head to my room at the marco.

we fuck and suck the rest of the night away. she had class in the morning so she was up and about before 9am so we showered and went to breakfast. i sensed that she wasn't looking for any peso's from me, so i had the hotel call her a taxi and sent her on her way.

yella man[/quote]sorry i was not there to met and greet you.

i do not know what time you rolled up but we were very busy upstairs with 5 room being used so many of our first choice girls were already booked.

try for 9pm order some food with a cold beer and see the modeling prior to the ladies being whisked away for singing duties, you may find more of what you appreciate. yolly the floor manager speaks great english ask for her and she will help you.

Putting a woman into your baggage doesn't work the way it used to.

X

[QUOTE=Yella Man]I arrived in at the Airport in CDO after 7PM. The flight from Davao cost around P1600, give or take a few peso’s. Excess baggage fee…P5300! Yella Man[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man]Putting a woman into your baggage doesn't work the way it used to.

X[/QUOTE]Cebu pacific excess fees are brutal!!

[QUOTE=Spooks]Cebu pacific excess fees are brutal!![/QUOTE]


But I put the two skinniest women I could find in my baggage! :) Combined weight of 20Kilo's! Seriously, I paid Peso 15700.00 to move my bags around. I'll plan a little differently next time...like using Manila or AC as a home-base and leaving my bags there.

YM

Yes, some hotels are very good about this.

I have a bag at a hotel in Cebu full time. Inside: snorkel, extra shoes and flip flops, some clothes/socks, nail clips, lotions, ....and a few others....

I save myself money and I reduce weight on airlines -- and flying an airplane is one of the most un-eco things you can do. X

[QUOTE=Yella Man]But I put the two skinniest women I could find in my baggage! :) Combined weight of 20Kilo's! Seriously, I paid Peso 15700.00 to move my bags around. I'll plan a little differently next time...like using Manila or AC as a home-base and leaving my bags there.

YM[/QUOTE]

My friend from Texas sends me a text saying he was coming by my room at the Marco with a girl. I’m thinking he wants to chill at the pool or on the balcony or something. He gets there with a short, thin and not so bad looking girl in tow, asks me for a towel, leaves the girl in my room, and then heads for the pool. Hmmm! I get a text from him five minutes later saying he bought the girl to my room for me because she looked like my type, and he was interested in her sister but not her. I like my new friend from Texas.

I take her out to the pool area and join my friend. He changes into trunks and jumps into the pool. I sit and chat with my new slim friend to see if I actually want to do her. The conversations not bad and she seems like she might be a good lay. I text my friend from Texas and let him know Girl #7 will be staying with me.

Texas exits the pool and goes to change, comes back, checks his phone and gives me a nod. He tells me and the girl he has to run, then asks her to make sure her sister meets him at the Lamar Inn at midnight. She said she would.

Girl #7 and I head back to my room. I’m starving at this point so we catch a taxi and pick up some BBQ and six bottles of Red Horse beer. Back in the room we eat and drink for several hours. It's a funny thing. The drunker I became the uglier girl #7 looked to me. I thought alcohol was supposed to have the opposite effect? I took several pictures of her using my CP, none of which looked decent. It was time to take showers, dim the lights, and find out what was lurking under her clothes.

The girl was crazy….and horny! After an ok bbbj, I slipped on a condom and got to work. After several strokes girl #7 took control and rolled on top to ride me. Then she scared me by reaching down and trying to take my condom off. I asked her what she was doing and she said, “Your handsome man so you’re clean. I’m clean to. I want to feel you inside me. I want you to feel my warm pussy!” I told her no, and said that I could feel her just fine, but she repeated this several times and continued to grab at my condom. I finally put her in doggy and pounded her till I came. I let her take a quick shower, gave her Peso 1000 and showed her to the door. Good riddance!

The next day I have girl #6, my chat mate, come over again. We had fun a few nights earlier so what the heck. She brings a swim suit with intentions on swimming, but freaks out because she thinks there are too many people around the pool. I counted five other people, none of whom were swimming. We decide to go to a place called Galum to sing Karaoke instead. I hate Karaoke!

Once there we order some flavored vodka and a bucket of ice for the room. I drink, she sips and sings. I belted out one song to satisfy her fun requirement, but I was content getting hammered on cheap vodka instead. With Karaoke done, we grab some grub then head back to the room. Showers, sex, showers, sleep! It’s almost routine for me now. I wake up during the night and slip a few thousand peso’s in her purse without her knowing because it just seemed like she would be offended if I handed it to her. Out the door with a kiss and a hug she goes the next morning with promises of texting and keeping in touch. I’m on my final day and night in CDO. What shall I get into tonight?

I decide to hit Spooks again for a few drinks. I’m there early before the dancing starts and I grab a seat at the bar. Like I said before, the women aren’t bad looking at Spooks, but every man has a type, and my type just wasn’t there. I drink until the dancing starts, I watch several sets and then leave. I catch a trike to Hot Babes to see if girl #5 wants to play. She’s busy with a customer, but tells me she will text me and come over to my room after she finishes work. I give her my room number at the Marco and head for the hotel. Girl #6 texts me and asks me why I put peso's in her purse, did I think she was a prostitute? We text each other most of the night, me mostly apologizing, and her trying to come to my hotel room again. I'm tired so I beg off. I packed my bags and fell asleep knowing I wouldn’t be answering anymore texts that evening. Next stop: Manila to pick up a friend who was flying in from Philadelphia.

Yella Man

I just returned from El Nido. There is definately mongering to be had there. There is a Karaoke/Disco club in town with a good selection of girls. The first night I took a young spinner home for the night. The sex was great & I have no complaints but we just didn't click. The next night she tried to claim me but I said no and ended up with her roomate. Of course her roomate knew all about me. Anyway we got along great. Wonderful GFE. We went out Island Hopping the next day. She would have stayed with me as long as I wanted but I moved on. I paid 2, 000 but I felt It could have been cheaper. The manager asked for 2, 500 & I said no, 2, 000. He immediately agreed. I should have started the negotiations at 1, 000. It is a barfine paid up front. No tip is expected. (I asked the manager directly). I prefer to pay the bar as little as possible and leage some room for a performance tip. I made it clear I wanted all night and it was no issue. Both girls went to breakfast with me, the second stayed with me all the next day. So no need to BYO.

Hello Gentleman.

Me and my friends planning to spend some time on Philippines.

Especially, we go diving here, but want to have some free time on Alona Beach (Panglao, Bohol). Is there some action?

Thank you for any information.

Definitely a Bring Your Own Girl type of place, unless you have enough game to pick up a waitress at a different resort than the one you're staying at. Suggest bringing your own from Manila, Angeles, or Cebu.

As there may be "well off" tourists on this board also, I will just clarify that Johnred talk about El Nido Town and not about the El Nido Resorts (Lagen and Miniloc).
In the resorts you have to BYOB, as they will stop local girls from entering the resort (own experience from inviting a couple of pinay tourists we met on an outing in one of the lagoons to the resort one evening).

[QUOTE=Johnred]I just returned from El Nido. There is definately mongering to be had there. There is a Karaoke/Disco club in town with a good selection of girls. The first night I took a young spinner home for the night. ........So no need to BYO.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rubio Tonto]Definitely a Bring Your Own Girl type of place, unless you have enough game to pick up a waitress at a different resort than the one you're staying at. Suggest bringing your own from Manila, Angeles, or Cebu.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I think you are right

I find Ceby the nearest one in internet.

Thanks Johnred, we don't hear too much about Palawan.

Do you remember the name of the disco? What hotel or resort did you stay at? X

[QUOTE=Johnred]I just returned from El Nido.
SNIP
So no need to BYO.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Johnred]I just returned from El Nido. There is definately mongering to be had there. There is a Karaoke/Disco club in town with a good selection of girls. The first night I took a young spinner home for the night. The sex was great & I have no complaints but we just didn't click. The next night she tried to claim me but I said no and ended up with her roomate. Of course her roomate knew all about me. Anyway we got along great. Wonderful GFE. We went out Island Hopping the next day. She would have stayed with me as long as I wanted but I moved on. I paid 2, 000 but I felt It could have been cheaper. The manager asked for 2, 500 & I said no, 2, 000. He immediately agreed. I should have started the negotiations at 1, 000. It is a barfine paid up front. No tip is expected. (I asked the manager directly). I prefer to pay the bar as little as possible and leage some room for a performance tip. I made it clear I wanted all night and it was no issue. Both girls went to breakfast with me, the second stayed with me all the next day. So no need to BYO.[/QUOTE]

BYO may not be essential but the choice of gils in El Nido is pretty limited and not so high quality when I want there at least. I think if you have a girl you actually like being with el Nido is a great place to take her

[QUOTE=Rubio Tonto]Definitely a Bring Your Own Girl type of place, unless you have enough game to pick up a waitress at a different resort than the one you're staying at. Suggest bringing your own from Manila, Angeles, or Cebu.[/QUOTE]

I had no prblem with meeting DIA giris in Bohol, only issue was my resort charged me extra fees for bringing the girl in.

There really isn't much info on La Union Province on ISG. I happened to be near San Fernando City, in La Union province, for a few of days on business, so I dropped in on an old friend of mine who is semi-retired and lives in the area. He is in his 60's, living off his US military pension, I'll call him Tom.

Just to the North of San Fernando is what used to be Wallace Air Force Base. The Americans moved out in 1991, now it's the Philippine military that run an air base there. Just south of San Fernando City, actually in Bauang, on MacArthur Highway, is a small strip of about 4 or 5 girly bars, which seem to be the remnants of the R 'n' R area back in the heyday when the US Military was here. There remains a small community of older white guys in the area, mainly Americans, many on military pensions, that have retired there and seem happy to hang out at the few bars, drink, and fondle and kiss the bargirls' tits.

The night I arrived, Tom meets me at my hotel and invites me to check out the "local cultural establishments". He takes me to Footlights nightclub, a girly bar! How did he know what I was thinking? The place is just south of San Fernando City, close to Bali Hai and Coconut Grove resort. It seems to be the best of the 4 or 5 girly bars in the area. There are also KTV bars nearby where there is some action to be had, but Tom prefers the straight-up girly bars.

We walk into Footlights around 7 pm, and all the girls cheer when he walks in. I guess he is well known there. He claims he has kissed every girl's breasts in the bar, and I don't doubt it. He has a Filipina gf for the past 8 years, so he is only allowed to touch and kiss the breasts of the bargirls. No boom-boom unless the GF is there for a 3some. Occasionally they go to Angeles for a 3some. Tom is hilarious. He's been in the Phils for over 30 years, and he has a ton of stories about bar girls, etc.

Anyways we sit down at a table close to the stage. The atmosphere is relaxed. There are about 5-10 girls on stage dancing in bikinis, and about 5-10 mingling around the tables with the customers, many who are a bit older. There were maybe 10-20 guys there, many seem like regulars. The music was not too bad, and not too loud. Every few songs, the girls switch; those on stage take a break and mingle with the customers, and the ones mingling around get on stage. The mamasan will ask you politely if you would like to buy a lady-drink, but if you say no, they leave you alone, no pressure.

Tom gives me the lowdown: Barfine is 1200 p, ladies drinks are 110 p, rum and coke is 70 p. Kiss of the breasts is 20 to 40 p. He actually has devised a cool way to pay for the breast kiss. He uses his cell phone to transfer load from his phone to the bargirl's phone, so that the bar doesn't get a cut! Wow! Amazing, the modern technology! Always carry lots of load, because the girls always need load!

We talk for a while with his buddy, who is also a retired American guy. He has this chick beside her, "Apple". She is 22, cute face, smiling, a bit of a party animal, seems like a real firecracker. She flashes her nice perky youthful breasts, and takes off her top for a while, to show off what she's got. Apple's sister comes by, "Heart". She is 26, also kinda cute, seems a bit calmer than Apple, but I think Apple is a bit cuter. Heart talks with me for a while; she obviously wants me to pay her barfine, but I wait, to see if better prospects will come my way.

Tom assures me that Heart and Apple are bisexual and quite happy to do a 3some. Hmm, something to keep in mind.

After about 5 rum and cokes, Tom offers me a lift back to my hotel. We get in his car, but I suddenly have the urge to go back to Footlights to get a girl, so he drops me off and I hop on a trike to go back. As soon as I walk in, Apple notices me and calls out my name from the stage and motions me over. The other guy left without her, so I guess she is all mine. The other girls don't seem as cute, so I ask her if she wants to leave with me. She flashes a big smile and says, let's go! So I take her out for 1200p – what a bargain! I ask her if she is hungry, she says yes, so we go to a beach resort very close by, the Bali Hai. We have a quick bite to eat there, get a trike, and head back to my hotel.

Back at my room, we both have a shower, and we hop in bed. She gives great boom-boom. I can't remember all the details, but she definitely knows what she is doing. About 30 min after the deed is done, we are just lying in bed, and she starts toying with me, and gets me hard again. She seems to want round 2 already! I'm in my early 40's, so I know at my age I won't be able to come again just yet. I know I will probably need a bit more time to recharge (unless I haven't had it for a long while, but I have been getting a lot of nooky for the past year). Anyway, I give it to her for a while, but no more cream in the pot for now, so we eventually fall asleep. About 5 am, I wake up a bit, and we go at it again, but this time I unload. Her performance is at least an 8 or 9 in my opinion.

She was a great in the sack, but not much emotional connection. She was a bit of an airhead, she seemed a bit spaced out in the morning. Not much between the ears I guess. Kind of hard to have a conversation, so I decide not to see her again.

Anyways, after a space cadet morning with Apple, I had to do some work with a bit of hangover. I get back to my hotel at 8 pm after long day. As soon as I get back to my room, Tom texts me to see if I want to go out again. Uh, sure, I guess. Geez, he parties pretty hard for an old guy.

So we go back to Footlights. This time I decide not to drink too much, because I don't want to go to work the next day with another hangover.

This night, Apple is not there, but I do notice another girl who strikes me as cute. She has just a hint of chubbiness, cute face, but she seems kind of nervous or distracted or something. No other girls tickle my fancy, so Tom and I decide to check out the other place across the street, I think it is called Stilettos. There are only 3 or 4 girls there, none look good, so we bolt out of there after one quick drink and go straight back to Footlights.

We have another couple of drinks. I mention to Tom that the slightly chubby one is cute to me. Tom seems to want to call it an early night, so to expedite matters, he tells the Mamasan I want to talk to her, so the girl gets off stage and talks to me. I'll call her Vanessa. She's 19, been at the bar 5 months. We chit chat for a bit. I ask her if she wants to go my hotel with me? "Ok"! Off we go for only 1200 p.

We get to my hotel. She says, "Last night you went with Apple, right? " Yes, how did you know? "Apple is my friend! " Hmm, ok. I gather maybe that's why she is a bit uncomfortable, doesn't want to intrude on her friend's turf. I try to reassure her that I'm not interested in Apple, only her!

She still seems a bit nervous or uncomfortable. I do my best to reassure her, try to make her at ease. I am actually feeling quite tired, but as soon as I turn out the lights, she goes at it! Great kisser, but I can taste a bit of nicotine. Turns out she has a pierced tongue.

Next the clothes come off. She has a perfect body, young, firm, tight, that only the under-22 girls seem to have. She gave such a great BJ, I almost lost it! I had to get her to stop! Then I go down on her, she had a great wet sweet puss.

Then she climbed on me and gave the ride of my life! Wow! She gave me a very passionate and vigorous cowgirl, for quite a long time. I hung on for a while to see if she could come with me. She seemed very close, but not quite, so finally I had to let go of my jets. She made me cum hard. I was amazed that she seemed to almost be there too. Usually it would take a lot of practice together to get the hang of coming together.

In the morning, she still seems kinda nervous or agitated or something,. At least we can have a bit of conversation. I ask her a bit about her life. She lived with a Filipino guy for 2 years, starting at only 17. Some 40 year-old Aussie surfer guy saw her for a few months, but it didn't work out. He didn't mind that she worked at a club, but I guess he was seeing other girls, so she didn't like that. He lives in the Phils, with no obvious source of income. I'm curious how this guy can afford to just surf and screw bar girls, but Vanessa doesn't know. She alludes to some other situation or problem, but it does not involve a guy. I only found out later what it was.

She tells me she is picky with barfines, she'll only go if the guy is nice and not old. Nice to know. She hasn't gone on a barfine for 2 weeks before me, so the mileage is perhaps not too high.

Anyway, I ask if she would like to see me again that night, she says sure. She suggests I go back to the club to pay her barfine, but I say, why can't we just meet for dinner? She says ok, but you have to pay my barfine up front. She only gets 550p of it, the bar gets the rest. I guess the bar is savvy enough to know what she is doing if she doesn't show up. Geez, can't she just call in sick? So I give her 1500p, and tell her I'll text her when I'm done with work. I tell her I can taste cigarette when we kiss, and I get her to promise me she won't smoke during the time that she is with me.

We exchange a few texts over lunch while I'm working. At 4 pm, she goes to the bar to pay her own barfine. When I'm done at 5, she meets me at my hotel. We have a drink and watch the sunset. We decide to go to Coconut Grove resort for dinner. It might be slightly nicer than the place I'm at, but very similar. Plus it's close to Footlights, and she wants to drop by there after dinner. I am wondering why she is so keen to go to her work; I found out much later why! She says it's because she wants to talk with her cousin (I found out later this was a small white lie).

Anyways, we have dinner at Coconut Grove. It seems like a nice resort. She still seems a bit uncomfortable or distracted. I had already asked her if she wanted to come with me to a certain place elsewhere in the Philippines for a little vacation the following week Says she wants to, but she seemed so uncomfortable, that I tell her she doesn't have to if she doesn't want to. She says of course she wants to come. We talk about price. She says that she will have to give the bar her barfine for everyday she is away. I offer her 2000 p per day, but I would prefer she gets all of it, but apparently the bar has to get its cut.

We had another great boom-boom that night, similar to the previous. I try my luck again in the morning (because she makes me hard, such a great body, why not go for seconds?) Anyway, she seems shy to do it in daylight. Kind of cute. Still young and a bit low on miles I guess. I desist and do some paperwork.

To make along story short, I did end up taking her to another vacation spot in the Philippines the following week. We ended up chatting with another bargirl there one night, I'll call her BG #2. Vanessa did seem to settle down a bit, but she still seemed uncomfortable, so a few days later, I cut her loose. As soon as I do, she starts sending me texts, "I miss you", etc. Ah well, too late for that now. Strange how these Filipinas seem to communicate better by text rather than face to face.

A few days later, I spent a few days with BG #2, and she eventually told me that Vanessa was lesbian! She was surprised I didn't know, it was no big secret, so she thought. vanessa has a live-in girlfriend (also a bar-girl) back home that she was missing, although they fight all the time. Ah-ha! That explains why she seemed so uncomfortable, and why she was so keen to go to her workplace that night. Anyway, she was still a great lay. I am amazed that a lesbian can give such a great BJ! Wow!

So that is my story on La Union. Probably not a true pooning destination, but if you happen to be in the area, there is some action to be had.

Cheers and happy pooning!

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On Day 14 in the Philippines, my friend and I catch the bus to Batangas Port from City State Tower Hotel. Cost per Ticket: around Peso 600-700 for the bus and ferry fare I believe. I takes nearly two hours to get to the port, another two and a half to get to Sabang beach in Puerto Galera. We check into the Big Apple Resort. Nothing special, but comfortable enough. Suite Room cost Peso 2000 a night. My friend stayed in the Superior Room for same Price. The Suite Room is the best room they have so book that one if you stay there.

We showered, dressed and broke out the whiskey and drank by the pool until it was time to go out that evening. We hit Panther Disco first. Girls crawled all over us as soon as we walked in the door. We stayed there most of the evening, took a few numbers and then decided to go eat.

We went to Eddies, a restaurant/bar that sits by the beach and stays open all night. Ordered food and started texting the girls we had just met at Panthers. It wasn’t long before we had a table full of food and four of the girls from Panthers sitting with us. After eating and drinking I invited them all back to our hotel for a early morning swim.

At the hotel I ordered more Red Horse Beer and gave each of the girls a T-shirt to swim in. My friend and I changed into shorts and jumped into the pool. It wasn’t long before all the girls ditched their T-shirt swam naked instead. It was a fine, fun filled night in the pool.

My friend pulls me aside and asks me how we are going to get rid of the extra girls. I told him we aren’t. We’re gonna do all of them! So he concentrated on his two and I did likewise. Eventually we ended up in our separate rooms with our ladies and got busy.

Girl #9 became a little shy in the room, but Girl #10 got right in the shower. When she came out she moved right to the bed and started giving me head. The other girl jumped in the shower. When she came out, girl #10 was riding me. I reached over and grabbed Girl #9’s hand to pull her into the bed. She immediately climbed under the covers and stayed shyly away from us. Not what I expected at all.

When I finished with girl #10 I took a quick shower and slid back into the bed next to the other girl. I played with her titties and started kissing on her to see how she would react. She responded nicely, but when I tried DATY she acted shy again. Her friend noticed this and asked her what the problem was. They spoke in Tagalog for a bit, and then girl #10 went into the bathroom and closed the door. Girl #9 then started giving me head. I guess she was shy only because her friend was watching.

After some DATY I went right to Mish. Girl #9 couldn’t handle it much so she took control by flipping me over and climbing on top. She bounced up and down and amazingly made me cum fairly quickly. Exhausted, I fell asleep right where I lay. Both girls snuggled in next to me and fell as well. And that’s how we lay until noon the next day when my friend came by and woke us up by knocking on the door. They showered, I gave each Peso 1000, and kissed them goodbye. It was a very memorable night!

Yella Man

Day 15 started much the same way as the previous day did. We dropped some laundry at a shop in town, and grabbed a bite to eat not far from Eddies Restaurant at what looked like a busy pedestrian intersection. Great for checking out the beautiful sites walking by. After eating we head back to the hotel and break out the JW, keeping up our ritual of getting hammered by the pool before we go out.

Around 11PM (much too late for PG because all the clubs close around 2AM) we realize we should be on our way to the clubs. We hit Village Disco, a stones throw from Panther Disco. Not a bad selection of girls so we order drinks. Mamasan sits next to us and tries to peddle her girls. We let her know we’ll pick our own if we are interested and she leaves us alone. I see a short little spinner who's maybe 5ft, or below, thin, and very cute. I knew she was going to be #11.

I buy her a drink just to be sure she was likable. Satisfying that requirement, I gave her mamasan Peso 2000 and waited for my friend to find his GF for the evening. He made his choice and we were out of there.

Back at the hotel we continued drinking and getting to know our new dates. Somewhere around 3AM we retired to our individual rooms and got busy. After showers Girl #11 showed me what she could do. BBBJ, Mish, Cowgirl, and some doggy until I came. She was enthusiastic and fun. Another round near 11:30 AM, showers, a Peso 1000 tip and a kiss on the cheek to say goodbye. A new day has started.

Day 16 was much the same as 15. We ate, we drank, we picked up our laundry, and we went to a new club, Hammerhead which is essentially Broadway Disco. Hammerhead is upstairs, Broadway downstairs. My friend decided he wanted another taste of one of the two girls he had the first night we were there, so he was busy making text arrangements with her while I sat in Hammerhead trying to find my next GF for the evening. It didn’t take long before a nice sexy, thick (thicker than I like but not fat) girl with blonde hair sauntered over and climbed on my lap. She wrapped her arms around my neck and started to sing along with the current song being played. She had a very sexy voice unlike any I’ve heard on a Filipina before. I found Girl #12.

I collected Girl #12 and met my friend at the restaurant at our hotel. His girl came along not long after so we ordered food and drinks and let things get merry. After the meal we carried our conversation, along with several bottles of beer, back to our rooms. Girl #12, who had been really quiet most of the night (I thought I made a bad choice at first) finally found her tongue after several Red Horse’s and decided she wanted to swim, so she stripped her clothes off and jumped in the pool. My friend and I looked at each other in amazement at the new development…and at the fishnet panties Girl #12 was wearing. Damn if they didn't look sexy on her! She tried to coax me into the pool. After changing into some shorts, I got in briefly, but jumped out quick. The water was freezing because it had been overcast and rainy the previous two days. She seemed to enjoy it though.

We drank some more and faded into our rooms and showered. Girl #12 was sloppy drunk by now from too much Red Horse. She could barely stay awake for sex, so I laughed to myself, rolled over and went to sleep.

She made up for it in the morning by waking me up with a BJ and leading me into various positions. Not a bad experience. Gave her Peso 1000 after our showers and kissed her goodbye. It was time to pack for our trip to AC.

Yella Man

Some interesing posts and stories there YellaM. With all those activities you've described, I can't help wonder if you realize there is an ocean somewhere near there. Have you seen it yet? ;-)

X

[QUOTE=Yella Man]Day 15 started much the same way as the previous day did.

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Yella Man[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man]Some interesing posts and stories there YellaM. With all those activities you've described, I can't help wonder if you realize there is an ocean somewhere near there. Have you seen it yet? ;-)

X[/QUOTE]


Did you say ocean? Near PG? WoW! I missed seeing that! I might have gone diving had I seen it. ;)

YM

I am alone in Borcacay.

Can anyone tell me where i should look to pick up some entertainement for the evening.

PS : yes I have RTTF but there hasn't been any post on Borcacay for a while!

I can't believe this asshole. He quit his job when I was there last month. He doesn't want to work figuring now that his daughter has a foreigner she should pay his way in life. I don't mind helping out mom and the younger sister but no way that lazy prick.

We got a helper to help mom with the chores and handle my son now and then. The old prick is always arguing about the maid. I told my wife he has no say in the matter. He don't work so he doesn't pay her salary. What's this cock sucker's problem? He says he's going to leave and go to aunt's place. Well pis off and quit causing everyone grief Tostito Dorito(his name is Faustino but I call him Tostito).

Yesterday he said he was going to stab his wife. Actually it's not really a true wife cause he got 2 half kids and pissed off for a few years only to return. Can't you see your not wanted. Get on the bus and f#%atk right off.

It's not a good situation for my wife and son. Thank Christ only a few months and they will be here with me. And old Tostito can sell fish balls at the school.

[QUOTE=Escort Fan]i am alone in Borcacay can anyone tell me where i should look to pick up some entertainement for the evening.

PS : yes I have RTTF but there hasn't been any post on Borcacay for a while![/QUOTE]Cocomos or maybe Cocamagos, something like that.

[QUOTE=Escort Fan]I am alone in Borcacay.

Can anyone tell me where i should look to pick up some entertainement for the evening.

PS : yes I have RTTF but there hasn't been any post on Borcacay for a while![/QUOTE]

Two places I have picked up freeancers are Cocamangos and Summer Place. That was in 2008. Going to be there next week but bringing someone along.

[QUOTE=Tungsten Chef]I can't believe this asshole. He quit his job when I was there last month. He doesn't want to work figuring now that his daughter has a foreigner she should pay his way in life. I don't mind helping out mom and the younger sister but no way that lazy prick.

We got a helper to help mom with the chores and handle my son now and then. The old prick is always arguing about the maid. I told my wife he has no say in the matter. He don't work so he doesn't pay her salary. What's this cock sucker's problem? He says he's going to leave and go to aunt's place. Well pis off and quit causing everyone grief Tostito Dorito(his name is Faustino but I call him Tostito).

Yesterday he said he was going to stab his wife. Actually it's not really a true wife cause he got 2 half kids and pissed off for a few years only to return. Can't you see your not wanted. Get on the bus and f#%atk right off.

It's not a good situation for my wife and son. Thank Christ only a few months and they will be here with me. And old Tostito can sell fish balls at the school.[/QUOTE]
I feel your pain. It's always a mistake, I think, to let your asawa live anywhere near her parents. You would be far better off getting her a place on another island somewhere reasonably far removed from mom and the dickweed. You can always send the mother a few bucks every month. You're a better man than I cause I could not tolerate this crap for even a day.

GE

You sound royally pissed, but you also sound like part of the problem. Hear me out...

First, you start out calling him an asshole. Does your wife and other family members agree? How much time have you spent with this family?

He "quit" his job, but maybe he got laid off and wants to save face. Especially since mr. rich foreigner roles into town and can suddenly pay for everything? Rich foreigner and the maid....you don't explain the old man's complaint. Rubbing it in his face is a very bad idea.

Who supported this family before you started fking the daughter (your wife)? And is the old man the real father of your wife?

You can have a hissy fit if you want, but if you post your rant in a public place, you have to expect some inquiry.

I'll conclude this post by saying that no matter how inappropriate the old man's complaint is, you should always look for the grain of truth. You will make yourself a better person if you do that. X

[QUOTE=Tungsten Chef]I can't believe this asshole. He quit his job when I was there last month. He doesn't want to work figuring now that his daughter has a foreigner she should pay his way in life. I don't mind helping out mom and the younger sister but no way that lazy prick.

We got a helper to help mom with the chores and handle my son now and then. The old prick is always arguing about the maid. I told my wife he has no say in the matter. He don't work so he doesn't pay her salary. What's this cock sucker's problem? He says he's going to leave and go to aunt's place. Well pis off and quit causing everyone grief Tostito Dorito(his name is Faustino but I call him Tostito).

Yesterday he said he was going to stab his wife. Actually it's not really a true wife cause he got 2 half kids and pissed off for a few years only to return. Can't you see your not wanted. Get on the bus and f#%atk right off.

It's not a good situation for my wife and son. Thank Christ only a few months and they will be here with me. And old Tostito can sell fish balls at the school.[/QUOTE]

[quote=x man]you sound royally pissed, but you also sound like part of the problem. hear me out...

first, you start out calling him an asshole. does your wife and other family members agree? how much time have you spent with this family?

he "quit" his job, but maybe he got laid off and wants to save face. especially since mr. rich foreigner roles into town and can suddenly pay for everything? rich foreigner and the maid....you don't explain the old man's complaint. rubbing it in his face is a very bad idea.

who supported this family before you started fking the daughter (your wife)? and is the old man the real father of your wife?

you can have a hissy fit if you want, but if you post your rant in a public place, you have to expect some inquiry.

i'll conclude this post by saying that no matter how inappropriate the old man's complaint is, you should always look for the grain of truth. you will make yourself a better person if you do that. x[/quote]oh yeah the wife, mom, relatives and all the neighbours agree he is king asshole. when we had the wedding in cebu the old man never associated with anyone. when we had a house party after the old man sat in the house not associating with anyone. his own mother doesn't want to come over when he's around.

my wife had enough the other day. he was bitching again about the helper. my wife told him, " you're bullshit. you better leave and if you come back, me and the baby moving out". she said his attitude could get him shot in other places.

who supported the family? i say the mother mostly. dad left to fuck other women so mom sold snacks at the school canteen. honestly i don't know why the prick ever came back. but what's mom to do. he beat her before is she going to call the cops? not.

maybe he's pissed off at the maid cause she never went for his advances. years ago he raped his sister's maid. sorry man there is no grain of truth. only a total asshole. don't like the guy. never did.

I met a taxi driver in the PI who has a sister in Detroit. She sends him money only once a year at Christmas. She told him "I don't send you money because I know you won't work."

A know a Filipina here in the US whose dad had abandoned the family. Now that she's here in the US married to a wealthy guy (even by US standards), lo and behold, dad comes back into the picture.

Dad may not be a lazy asshole, but it's not exactly unprecedented.

[QUOTE=X Man]
You can have a hissy fit if you want, but if you post your rant in a public place, you have to expect some inquiry.
[/QUOTE]

I am wondering what is the poster's motive in posting this rant here? Is he trying to warn us about something? Is he just looking for a platform to vent? Is he seeking advice? If so, I never saw any questions to that effect.

T-Ray seems to be hanging out until he can get his wife and son away and out of contact. Once this happens it will be very difficult for a filipina - no matter how bad it might be at home, they always want to remain in touch as much as possible.

I see lots of dysfunctional outcomes happening here down the line. But hope it works out for the best for everyone.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt]I am wondering what is the poster's motive in posting this rant here? Is he trying to warn us about something? Is he just looking for a platform to vent? Is he seeking advice? If so, I never saw any questions to that effect.

T-Ray seems to be hanging out until he can get his wife and son away and out of contact. Once this happens it will be very difficult for a filipina - no matter how bad it might be at home, they always want to remain in touch as much as possible.

I see lots of dysfunctional outcomes happening here down the line. But hope it works out for the best for everyone.[/QUOTE]Get my wife and son out of contact? Nooo. It's the wife who wants to get here as fast as possible and the hell out of that scenario. Even her brother says she better hurry up and get out. I got nothing against mom. I'll welcome her and the sister here with open arms.

Today is my wife's birthday. You all know the Philapino tradition is the celebrant pays for the spread. Well mom and the wife said they're not cooking if dad's around. So no free food for the old man. Thank Christ he's sposed to go back to work Monday. But Butuan isn't far enough to get rid of that prick.

Over and out guys you can get back to your fucking.

I have no problem with Tungsten Chef's criticisms of his father-in-law. It's good to know these things, and some newbies here don't know what they're getting into when they get involved with a Pinay.

I think T. R. Has bad luck with his f-in-l, but similar family relations exist in Phils, I am not surprised at all. And there is no solution, leaving ASAP gives only temporary relief.

Anyway this kind of information and disussion should be moved to Phils general thread.

I have no problem with Rubio Tonto agreeing with Tungsten Chef&s criticisms of his father in law. It"s good to know these things, and some newbies here don't know how boring it can get when people agree with others without any meaningful contribution. X

[QUOTE=Rubio Tonto]I have no problem with Tungsten Chef's criticisms of his father-in-law. It's good to know these things, and some newbies here don't know what they're getting into when they get involved with a Pinay.[/QUOTE]

I have no problem with X-Man's wanking. Some newbies don't know how boring it can get here when there aren't enough wankers around. RT

Good lookin gal, but who is responsible for the hideous underwear? X

[QUOTE=Rubio Tonto]I have no problem with X-Man's wanking. Some newbies don't know how boring it can get here when there aren't enough wankers around. RT[/QUOTE]

I have no problem with Rubio Tonto providing pics, but what is with the hideous underwear pics? It's good to know the underwear trends, but some newbies here don't know the difference between hideous underwear and underwear that just asks to be taken off. X :-)

Sigh...ugly underwear is in the eye of the beholder.

Guys I'm sure most of you know Butuan City isn't one of the whoring hot spots you think about visiting. It's quite a boring place. You can only go to Gaisano Mall so many times. Right?

Last visit I found a decent restaurant run by a guy from Saskatchewan, Canada. It's called True Brew. It's a gourmet coffee shop that has a limited menu of good western grub. Chicken fingers, ribs, spaghetti, fettucine, and an assortment of sandwiches. I'm not famaliar with the iced lattes but you have to try the Cookies and Cream Frappe. One of my favorite drinks.

I can't remember what street it's on because I wasn't paying attention. I know it's on a main drag. If you're looking for some decent food besides the crap they sell in the mall or the native Phil. food give True Brew a shot.

[QUOTE=Tungsten Chef]Guys I'm sure most of you know Butuan City isn't one of the whoring hot spots you think about visiting. It's quite a boring place. You can only go to Gaisano Mall so many times. Right?

Last visit I found a decent restaurant run by a guy from Saskatchewan, Canada. It's called True Brew. It's a gourmet coffee shop that has a limited menu of good western grub. Chicken fingers, ribs, spaghetti, fettucine, and an assortment of sandwiches. I'm not famaliar with the iced lattes but you have to try the Cookies and Cream Frappe. One of my favorite drinks.

I can't remember what street it's on because I wasn't paying attention. I know it's on a main drag. If you're looking for some decent food besides the crap they sell in the mall or the native Phil. food give True Brew a shot.[/QUOTE]Overpriced place. The guy even advertised his place on Cebu's inflight journal in the local experts category.

I ordered a coffee (not cheap) and they brought CREAMER! Yuck. Cost me extra to get some milk.

Enough good food in town. The place is a bit out of sink with reality.

this is the second part of a cagayan de oro (cdo) report

[b]restaurants[/b]
western style:
-la tegola cucina italiana: hayes street, one back from downtown divisoria (weekend market);
lovely fare; the imported lamb was delectable, with fresh salad, aided by a good house wine made in the owner’s own italian vineyards. specialises in pizzas, italian cheeses, pastas,
-countryside steakhouse limketkai: i tried the ostrich steaks; locally grown and tastes great. located near the north concourse entrance at limketkai;
-la vetta: near countryside steakhouse;
vienna kaffeehaus: good menu; free wifi but 50p an hour for a power plug-in!

filipino style (nice to take your filipina date for her choice of food):
-night café: friday saturday night on the divisoria. great atmosphere, eat with the locals;
-lexis grill: tiano bro and macahambus cnr (good music);
-inilog grill and acoustic bar (tiano bros and kalambaguhan sts);
-piano bar (also known as d’sainte): san agustine st. upper market, piano and soloist from 9pm. nice place to take that special lady. the eel angulas is well recommended.



[b]nightclubs[/b]
here are some nightclubs i visited with a few comments. there may be more clubs and i would be interested to hear of them. see the map (map 1) for their locations.

nuwave (the old ontic club) newly renovated, relaxing, good seating. 100p entrance includes beer and peanuts! 300p ladies drink (ld) 3500 bar fine. small girl selection the night i was there. friday, saturday there are kama sutra (two girls), shower and candle shows. worth visiting except for pushy lady-boy mamasan.

bada bing many girls, comfortable seats, 120p entrance with one drink. good dancers. left alone unpestered.

fantastic: a rather cramped but popular club with uncomfortable plastic cane aluminium seats. 112p entrance first beer including vat. nice set of girls but in this club more than any other the girls were prancing to themselves in the wrap around mirrors and disappearing up the spiral staircase well before their number had finished. that pisses me off.

exotic club: a very small non-descript club with young talent (see pics 8 and 9 –one of the few clubs where photos were allowed) it is above a boys only club. why is it that some of the smallest, roughest, clubs have the prettiest and newest young girls? watch the prices here. like new love oro and gion there are lots of extras built into the pricing for a ladies drink.

new love oro: after an uninviting entrance way you enter a large lounge with comfortable seats and a good stage. entrance 115p including your first smb. i have previously rated this club highly; and still good. a large selection of girls, and their dance routines are well choreographed by a lady-boy trainer. the club had few customers when i was there but i was told that the vip rooms were full. watch the pricing of the ladies drinks. it is now a club that builds in a mamasan drink charge; 250p for the ladies drink, 250p for the mamasan charge, 500p all up.

gion: upstairs above a japanese restaurant. the first thing that hit me, on two occasions, was the stench of male [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] climbing the stairs. inside it is pleasant and comfortable surroundings, and more than 20 girls. but there were long pauses between dances. the dancers do a lot of mirror preening and they leave the stage early, which as i have said before pisses me off. the thing that kills this place is their charges. 175p for first drink (100p entrance and 75p for beer), then 675p for a ladies drink (broken down as 275p for the ladies drink, 150p for the ladies charge, and, listen, 250p for the floor manager’s drink!!). gez, what’s this?! buy a ladies drink then you need to buy ladies time! then also buy drinks for the mamasan!? come on! i asked are these your normal prices, because i will post them on the internet, and the answer was “yes”. and what does the girl get out of these outrageous prices; just 100p in her pocket. the last time i go there.

thrives club and restaurant: upstairs, just 100p entrance including a beer. comfortable chairs, 16 girls when i was there, some nudity.

mics and mugs. upstairs. entrance fee variable so watch it. mine was 50p for entrance, plus drink cost plus 10%; mine 130p all up. some nice dancers, especially camille. an overbearing lady-boy mamasan had difficulty explaining his/her prices which were regarded as “bullshit” by one of his/her dancers. it was 550p for a ladies drink broken down as 250p for the drink itself and 350p for the lady and mamasan charge. what are things coming to? just watch it here. but first night i was there i did not have this problem, mind you i didn’t buy a ladies drink. to test the waters with one near naked dancer i put 100p in the neck of a bottle, the mamasan put this on stage and after many hilarious attempts the dancer successfully removed it with her pussy. not seen at any other cdo club!

coras 2 and coras 3 (but no coras 1) standard entrance price 130p including three beers, two of which i gave away to appreciative filipinos resulting in continuous high fives for the next hour. plastic stackable chairs. in coras 3 there was a sensuous shower show which by the third number in the bracket she was naked and masturbating solidly.

spooks: this club (pic 10) was slaughtered by dragon slayer in his forum, where he had a beer removed after he left his table for more than 5 minutes. he recommended to isg members never to go there. to me it was the most relaxing and best club in town, but i guess it depends on what you are after. there was no entrance charge and prices were standard, 60p for a beer, 90p for a house wine. very reasonable, and there was no pressuring mamasans. you can choose your company from the dancers and “girl friendly officers” (gfos) and buy a ladies drink at listed prices (from 150p for iced tea to 300p for cocktails). for the 250p drink the girl would get 100p but i successfully negotiated for the girl to get 150p and the management just 100p. i have had success trying this in other clubs. there is a good stage show, enhanced on friday and saturday with candle and shower shows. every now and again the full girl complement is paraded filling the stage and sometimes the row in front (30 plus girls). there is no bar fine in this club and any negotiation is a personal matter between the girl and you. the british owner runs a good club here. when i was there he revved the girls up about excessive dancing to the mirror and leaving the stage early, but in the owner’s absence i notice they fall back to some of their old ways. i should also mention that from 5-7pm on a friday night a buffet dinner is supplied for 200p. there is a good range of food including roasted potatoes, shrimps, and salad. it is a good congregating place for the many expats living in the city (pic 11).

there are a couple of places on the other side of the cagayan river recommended by taxi drivers. pyramid is on the iligan highway and just over the maharlika bridge. i have been there twice. it has a large lounge and stage but most of the time the stage floor is empty -like the number of customers attending. troy is downtown carmen and just over the ysalina bridge. this is literally a rat infested dump. i arrived at 9.30pm, no other customers, and the first and last thing i saw was a big rat scurrying across the floor. i think i know why these taxi drivers recommend these places; it puts more pesos on their meters!


[b]dance venues[/b]
there is great musical talent in the phils and cdo is no exception. i went to four venues: lexis bar and grill, on tiano brothers street, pulse and mojo bar, both opposite dynasty hotel on capistrano street, and the relatively new silver rain in divisoria (corner of abejuela and rizal streets). silver rain, a korean owned nightclub on the third floors, was the new discovery and the most enjoyable for me; a very popular “in” place with the younger set

i have been to lexis (tiano bros st near macahambus st) many times and it is a good venue for meeting people. there are two 7 piece bands, 3 vocalists rotating through the evening. lots of girls, and lady-boys, dance in groups on the floor. pick the right group, even if you are on your own, and you would quickly get accepted for giving it a go. one thing can lead to another if you play your cards right.

pulse (opposite dynasty hotel) is a disco live band combination; a 10-piece band when i was there. as with other venues it doesn’t seem to warm up to well after 10.30pm. i also went to adjacent mojos, restaurant and bar, and probably the most down-market dance venue but lots of talent. i was there coinciding with one of the extensive evening power blackouts in the nightclub district and many of the dancing girls rolled over to mojos. if i wasn’t accompanied it would have been a great place to make initial contact and pick up phone numbers.


[b]meeting and pick-up spots[/b]
there are the usual malls (limkitkai, sm, gaisano, ororama) and plazas. chatting with the sales-ladies in the local malls not exposed to heavy foreigner traffic (eg ororama and gaisano city) can be rewarding. these girls are often on short-term contracts and then return to their provincial homes. two nice parks with lots of activity and mixing and mingling are gaston park, near the cathedral (pic 12), and vincente de lara park (formerly macarthur park). very obvious too, in the evening hours, are the young “chicks” and their pushers, on the streets around the night clubs (map 1). these girls (pic 13) are generally young, often too young, and very high risk


kongking

I have just had a few weeks in Cagayan de Oro (CDO), my fourth visit in 3 years. I thought I would put together a summary for this ISG board; a mixture of facts and opinions.

[b]Getting there[/b]
There are good daily air-links from Manila and Cebu to this so-called “City of Golden Friendship”. There is a 4 days-a-week Cebu Pacific early evening flight from Davao and this avoids a rather tedious 6-7 hour plus bus journey. Currently the CDO airport, or Lumbia airport, is just 10 kms from the city. In the name of progress, and I guess safety, this airport will be replaced, supposedly 2011, by the Laguindingan International Airport 46 kms from CDO and half way towards Iligan. The taxi-drivers try and rip you off for 250p but my last metered fare from downtown CDO to the airport was just 105p. The taxi fare for the new airport could be more than the cost of the air ticket!

There is an overnight slow boat trip from Cebu. Recently Paras Jet has introduced a fast boat service from Jagna in Bohol departing at 1pm to Benoni in Camiguin Island and departing there at 4pm arriving CDO at 6.15pm; cost 800p a standard seat. I broke my trip with a few days in Camiguin Island with an invited chat-mate; very nice. The return trip CDO to Bohol leaves at 8am. There are also direct passenger boat services between CDO and Dumaguete and some other centres, but not daily.

Bus services from all over Mindanao will get you to Cagayan. There is the yellow Batchelor bus service and the red Rural Transit is the other line. I was not too impressed the last time I travelled on the Batchelor “non-stop Executive air con” from CDO to Davao. First we had a ½ hour lunch stop then about 25 minutes out of Davao the driver and 7 “executive” passengers alighted to sprinkle their urea supplement in a roadside banana plantation.

[b]CDO overview[/b]
The city has a population of nearing 600,000. It is on the northern central coast of Mindanao and the capital of the Province of Misamis Oriental. Temperatures are pretty constant through the year, averaging 28°C. The wet season is usually June to November, the wettest month July; the drier season is December to May but it can rain all months. CDO misses the typhoons and hurricanes that regularly belt Luzon and other north regions.

The Mindanao Ez Map has a street map of CDO but you may need a magnifying glass to read the details! A better map, with most of the nightclubs and hotels marked on it, is the “City Map of Cagayan de Oro”, see [url]www.cdoguide.com[/url] for map outlets and other city details. I have enclosed a map of the downtown area (Map 1).

There are hundreds of foreigners living in this city, some in retirement, many with jobs. Some of the congregating haunts for expats are Spooks nightclub for the 200p Friday night buffet (see nighclubs), the Entertainment Centre on opposite Philtown hotel on, the Generations Bar at Limkitkai, between Discovery Hotel and Coffee Works (on a Friday and a Saturday evening), and the SM Mall Supermarket, which seems to have the best fresh food in town. There is an active expat calendar and forum, and viewable in the Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro discussion group at Yahoo.

[b]Safety[/b]
Some countries put out travel “advisories” warning of the dangers of Mindanao travel. CDO, like Davao, is a pretty safe city. There are many parts of the world, including many cities in the US, Europe, and Australia where I would have greater safety concerns. I can safely walk around Divisoria (the weekend night market area), Velez and Limkitkai at night. But I would be hesitant to wander some of the shadier night club streets and districts like Cogon, Carmen, the Pier (port), and Agora too late at night. Taxis are cheap, readily available, and generally better quality than some of the crap “non aircon” taxis in Davao. And I have no qualms taking a tricad motorbike, or jeepney, for 7 or 10 pesos).

[b]Utilities[/b]
All the utilities are here: mobile, broadband, plenty of wi-fi networks, cable tv (with some sports coverage limitations). The biggest problem at the moment, in CDO and across the Mindinao region, is electricity distribution, with extensive daily “brown-outs”, often shutting businesses and hotels without generators down for stretches of 5 hours at a time. It’s a chronic situation but with a little strategic planning and political will it was totally avoidable. Looks like the wet season and maybe auxiliary oil burning generators are the only hopes of a solution. Frankly I do not know how some businesses can survive the escalating shutdowns. In most western countries the electrical generator and power distributor would be in breach of delivery contracts and would be facing major compensation claims. But this is the Philippines.

[b]Attractions[/b]
There are no real super attractions that I could find; there is river rafting, some local waterfalls, some golf courses, and a few beach resorts are often promoted. It is a good jump-off point to get to lovely Camiguin Island. I took a look at General “MacArthur’s Marker” at the port, (pic 2) and I hoped to learn a bit about local WW2 history but the signage there gave much more information about how great “Tinex” the current CDO mayor was in getting this small monument established and protected. This is a country full of self glorification. It will get worse as we head to the May elections.

[b]Hotels and Pensions[/b]
There is full range of accommodation in CDO; it is a popular conference location. We have the high end (4 star) accommodation with Hotel Koresco (near the airport and golf courses, Korean owned, 4000-28,000p a night), and Pryce Plaza Hotel (on Carmen Hill, from 4,300p a night but discount sites like Agoda offer better deals. Fantastic views and a nice restaurant to share with your Filipina on a special evening (pic 3). I had a lovely dinner there accompanied by a small strings orchestra!).

I have tried at least 10 hotels in my visits to CDO. Currently I am tripping nearly 4 months through the Philippines, am not on business expenses, so the high end was out of my budget (except for that occasional very special night). I prefer to save a little on accommodation and invest more in my partner. And I think for most Filipina any hotel lodge or pension is a treat compared to the homes and boarding houses they live in. It doesn’t have to be a Marco Polo to impress! I don’t turn my nose up at pensions. By definition they are small hotels, and common through Europe. Generally they can be friendlier, more personal, than large tourist hotels. But like hotels, some pensions can be doss-houses.

With accommodation you generally pay for what you get. We are dealing with personal preferences. Generally a bed is a bed. A bed with a footboard has some good advantages! A good hot shower that works is one of my priorities; along with a bathroom that is a little more up-market than a bucket and scoop. It doesn’t take many years before a shower nozzle corrodes up, taps lose their threads, and tired hotel staff forget to replace missing plugs. So I preferentially go for the newer, or newly, renovated over the tired and tatty. I have stayed at a wide range of CDO hotels and pensions, newly renovated and old and tatty!

On past visits I have stayed near the Limketkai shopping mall. Malberry Suites is very good; however with major extensions currently underway it is somewhat noisy. The adjacent Discovery Hotel is half the price, much older, but quite functional. I like to move my hotels fairly frequently and I don’t mind mixing it up. This time I focused on downtown hotels and pensions. There are lots of good choices within easy walking distance of the clubs, restaurants, and the Divisoria weekend market (pics 4 and 5). Here are some downtown recommendations, alphabetical and no order of priority, with prices mainly reflecting the standard matrimonial/double bed option, and all with cable tv and air/con:
-Demiron Hotel: Tiano Bro and Kalambaguan Streets. Adjacent to Lexis grill, bar and disco. 750p Wifi 50p a day, in restaurant and reception and some nearby rooms. A little bit tired, but clean;
-Dynasty Court: Crn Tiano Bros and Hayes Streets. From 1600p. Free wifi network on all floors but room positioning is important;
-Executive Pension: Velez and Marbini Sts. Well located. 625p with free wifi on all floors;
-Grand City Hotel: Velez near Abejuela (weekend market avenue). Newly renovated. 1,080p with wifi access using 4 hour card for 100p;
Hotel Ramon: Burgos and Tirso Neri Sts. Overlooking Cagayan River. Basic and aged, but friendly staff (700p);
-Nature’s Pensionne-Velez: Macahambus-Velez Streets. New and with extensions underway. Wifi 100p for 4 hours (880p);
-Park View Hotel: Divisoria near Capistrano St. Older, 575p, basic;
-Philtown Hotel: Velez and Macahumbus Sts. Good value for money (900p);
-Victoria Suites: Neri St Divisoria. Opened Jan 2010. Somewhat cramped rooms. No back-up generator, badly hit by brown-outs (850p);
-VIP Hotel: Velez St, corner with Pacana Streets and 50 metres from Spooks nightclub. 1950p upwards, with free wifi on all floors. Not quite the value for money as others.

Maxandria and Wilthire Hotels are nearby on Borja and Aguinaldo Sts. There are also some short term, 250p for 12 hours “hotels” and doss houses (eg Hotel Kinross) around as well, but untested by me. My picks for value for money stays in downtown CDO are Executive Pension and the relatively new Nature’s Pensionne-Velez

There are at least a couple of relatively handy beach resorts. I have stayed at Coconut Bay Resort a few times now (pics 6 and 7). This is a nice moderately priced relaxing place to take your partner (and kids). It is only a 100p taxi ride out of CDO heading towards Del Monte. It has a nice swimming pool, and setting. It is very popular for weddings, birthdays and conferences. Bungalow rooms are from 900p upwards, pretty basic but major upgraded extensions are underway. I would not recommend swimming in the sea. If you excuse the pun, you would probably be only going through the motions. Another local beach resort I haven’t yet tried is Cha-Li Beach Resort. It is 15 minutes out of CDO. Check the web-site; rooms from about 1800p upwards. I’ll try that one next time.

Better still, if you had the time, is to head off to Camiguin Island for a few days if you wanted a nice resort.

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KongKing

[QUOTE=KongKing]I have just had a few weeks in Cagayan de Oro (CDO), my fourth visit in 3 years. I thought I would put together a summary for this ISG board; a mixture of facts and opinions.

[/QUOTE]

A very informative post KongKing. It makes me want to re-visit CDO. It's a fun city if you know where to look.

YM

Kongking, great report. I will print it out and use it as my guide.

Master Author KongKing

I've toyed with "going south" for a couple of years so this puts me over the top.
So much better report than the insecure meanderings, yet sometimes entertaining reports of other threads.

Thanks again

[QUOTE=Yella Man]A very informative post KongKing. It makes me want to re-visit CDO. It's a fun city if you know where to look.

YM[/QUOTE]

Let me join mine with the other accolades for Kongking's comprehensive reports on CDO. I get there maybe once a month, but I've never heard of half of the places that he covers. Of course, I'm there for business, so I really don't have time to check out all the restaurants and hotels.

I notice that KK included Tegola on his list. I've eaten there a few times, and the last couple of times was disappointed in the quality, which I thought was at best mediocre, though the first couple of times I ate there I thought the food was quite good. I'll need to return given the review.

I've never stayed at the Pryce Hotel, though I've been there. To me, the location is simply too inconvenient to make it a worthwhile alternative, though with its white marble splendor it's quite an attractive place. I would also advise giving the VIP a miss; for the difference of a couple of hundred pesos between that hotel and the Mallberry, I'd opt for the latter since it's clean, attractive and has nicer rooms. Likewise with the Dynasty, which I found fairly shabby when I stayed there prior to the construction of the Mallberry. Admittedly, I've not been back there since the Mallberry's construction, so it might have improved.

Just another note, that one new wing of the Mallberry has opened and the other will open soon, so the construction noise has diminished substantially.

Again, KK thanks for the comprehensive overview of the city. I appreciate your willingness to travel the length and breadth of Divisoria. Every time I've thought about doing this, I get about ten meters into the journey and conclude that it's just too crowded and noisy for an old guy like me, so I turn back. It is however, an unusually attractive street for a city in the Philippines.

GE

[QUOTE=KongKing]I have just had a few weeks in Cagayan de Oro (CDO), my fourth visit in 3 years. I thought I would put together a summary for this ISG board; a mixture of facts and opinions.


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KongKing[/QUOTE]


The information on hotels with wifi is especially useful as it generally doesnt appear in the guidebooks which ared always a couple of years out of date.

I'm planning a trip there tomorrow so this is fantastically useful information.

Yes excellent report and have posted a link in the ROD thread.

Was wondering which hotels and pension houses have secure storage for valuables. Do they have in room safes?

Guys
Don't forget the Marco Hotel in Cugman, a short taxi ride from Gaisano Mall. Can't remember how much I paid exactly now, about 1500 per night I seem to remember. OK it is not in the thick of the action, but for that money I got a free mediocre breakfast, a huge clean well tended pool, superb well equipped gym and a massive room with two king size beds. The resort is laid out with small cottages as well as your typical hotel style rooms. I chose a cottage for my last stay and the geat thing about this hotel is that it completely avoids any walk of shame. You bring your girl (s) back in the taxi, drive through the manned security gates and park up right outside your cottage. No need to even go into reception if you take your key with you. The only downside is that there is no wifi in the rooms but they do have a business centre with free use of the internet, so it saves lugging around a lap top if you are staying there. I have yet to find a similarly priced comparable hotel with facilities of this standard anywhere in the Philippines

[QUOTE=Mattrick]Yes excellent report and have posted a link in the ROD thread.

Was wondering which hotels and pension houses have secure storage for valuables. Do they have in room safes?[/QUOTE]
Thanks guys for the positive feedback.

Can't help you Mattrick regarding secure storage. I don't use them. Too risky in my opinion. This is highlighted in recent postings by GregLondon and Sxxxx in the Cebu thread (13th March). I don't carry large loads of cash. I use ATMs fairly frequently, and hide surplus in internal luggage pockets. Where I can I keep my tv on when I am out of my hotel room to deter entry. Yours is not the only key to your room and you just don't know how desperate or tempted some staff could be to rummage or plunder. This is not just a Philippines thing.
KongKing

[QUOTE=KongKing]This is the second part of a Cagayan de Oro (CDO) report
These girls (pic 13) are generally young, often too young, and very high risk
KongKing[/QUOTE]Great report Mr King! Thank You.

A question on the statement I quoted above; do you mean risk as in posing as older than they are, or risk in some other sense (STD, robbery, etc...)?

Regards Barba

[QUOTE=Mattrick]Yes excellent report and have posted a link in the ROD thread.

Was wondering which hotels and pension houses have secure storage for valuables. Do they have in room safes?[/QUOTE]

Well I arrived today and ended up in the Dynasty Court. There is a 50% discount on the deluxe rooms making them 1250P +200P per head if you choose to have a buffet breakfast. Wifi in my room is fine. It's bang in the middle of the action near the Friday/Saturday night market.

I had a couple of hot DIA contacts when i came here. One girl said she was going to be an enthusiastic sex slave for me, she hails form illigan about 30 mins away. She hadnt texted me all day by the time i was at the airport so I send her a text asking if she had cold feet to let me know. I got a message back when i was on the plane that though she is still keen to meet she has family commitments today and maybe tomorrow. Plan B then swung into action and I texted a second girl who had previously asked me whether it was OK if she could drink my sperm. A few frantic texts later and we were in the early stages of ascent when she texted me that she would meet me at the airport. We met at the airport. I think she paid 250P for the taxi 2 ways, but i gave her 500p to cover it.

She is quite cute ad true to her word very keen on sucking cock until i cum and then swallowing. Unfortunately shes had a baby which has left her tummy in something of a mess, but shes a nice girl. If there are any Fork Lift truck drivers working for Carlsberg and living in Tamworth out there, i have news for you, you are the not so proud father of a rather beautiful little boy. According ton her at least this chap was fucking her for 5 months without a condom, then went back to UK and then as soon as she sent an email saying that she was pregnant ceased to answer emails or phone calls. It's tough on her and the baby I guess.

She's a very open minded girl. She was pretty confident that i would find some ready and willing girls to stay over night if i wondered around the nightmarket and smiled, i maybe left it a little late and am perhaps a little shy, i did get quite a few smiles. She's promised to come round again tomorrow AM and then take me to Gaisanao Mall where she says lots of young girls hang out on the 4th floor. Failing that she recommends hanging outside the church on Sunday afternoon. We will see. She is adamant that I shouldn't pay girls more than 300P to be fucked which she claims is more than enough. I guess this is local prices. im not sure the higher end girls are going to take kindly to me offering them 300P for a few hours fun.

To my annoyance in turns out i left my touch screen Samsung phone. We called the number many times and eventually the guy who was next in the taxi answered and despite the best efforts at reward promising from my girl he claimed to be on his way to Ozamis (very implausible) and then shut off the phone. Its a blow as the touch screen makes it super easy to text which is the prime mode of communication here in the Phils. I have a reasonably up to date sync of my contact list on my laptop which is one relief. I also have a cheap backup phone. I seem to be massively careless on this trip. Pretty soon im not going to have anything left to lose or get stolen. Or is that tempting fate.

The dynasty have office safety boxes they are of the dual key kind master key they have and a second key only you (they claim) have.

[QUOTE=Thaifun]Overpriced place. The guy even advertised his place on Cebu's inflight journal in the local experts category.

I ordered a coffee (not cheap) and they brought CREAMER! Yuck. Cost me extra to get some milk.

Enough good food in town. The place is a bit out of sink with reality.[/QUOTE]I guess your 1 of the fish and rice 3 times a day guys.

I don't know why, but I'm always somewhat surprised to hear that Western guys can be as totally irresponsible and immoral as the pinoys who father children and then accept no responsibility whatsoever for their financial support. The sad thing is that there's nothing she can do to pursue this legally. He's totally secure in his refusal to acknowledge the baby.

I've stayed at the Dynasty a few times prior to the construction of the Mallberry. I don't remember it as anything much, but perhaps its been renovated since I was there. The price is certainly attractive enough.

GE

[QUOTE=Barba]A question on the statement: "These girls (pic 13) are generally young, often too young, and very high risk"; do you mean risk as in posing as older than they are, or risk in some other sense (STD, robbery, etc...)?

Regards Barba[/QUOTE]
Hi Barba, yes I mean all of those. I was surprised at the number of "chicks" on offer. Some were mutton dressed up as lamb, but most were young. Going rate was variable but 400p short time was accepted, 1000p all night. The girls minders take abt 100p commission, but you can (try and) cut out the middle man. My short time girl said she was 19 but later said she was 17. To protect myself against any under-age set-up I do not tell the minders what hotel I am at, and if I do it is another hotel I say. I check to ensure I do not have third party company at any stage. And I try and monitor the girl's use of her mobile. "Do not take your phone into the cr". Condoms and washing before and after. Street girls do not get the STD checks that a nightclub girl receives.

greetings, fellow mongers

i do not have the time or budget to visit all 7000 cities/villages of the philippines. however, i did visit manila, boracay and cebu. i did have a very easy mongering experience with p4p in boracay so i will focus this report on boracay since there is not recent or detailed information on boracay but plenty of information on the bars and etc in cebu and manila.

these are the rules that i observed while spending three nights in boracay. 1). the action starts around 9pm after the families go to their hotels and many buffet restaurants shut down or the real night entertainment places start jammin' with live bands. 2). the best place to stay and monger is station two – if you want to reduce time from pick-up to the main event. 3). the best place to monger is summer place 4). if you are mongering anywhere between station one to station three after 3am the only thing available will be horrible lady boys so get your girls or girls lined up before 2am to avoid being harassed and shaking the lady boys off of you. i felt like i was playing full contact football trying to tell the ladyboys to f. o. lmtfa. 5). the going rate "wish rate" is 3000 pesos which can be easily reduced to $1500. 00 and possibly $1000 pesos if she is not aggressive and no one is buying her drinks. 6). at summer place, the drinking is not happening so when the ladies get to the room they are freakin' hungry and thirsty and want to raid your minibar especially the girls drinking nothing but cobra energy drinks. 7). second pops are tough to negotiate 8). phone numbers and pictures are easily to get. this is not the famous del ray at costa rica but summer place is packed with freelancers and if you can't find one it is only because the ladyboys have taken over the place or too many couples are in the place. 8). if a girl runs up to you or ask to talk to you near the water then more than likely she is ladyboy. – the girls are not aggressive as the ladyboys just keep that in mind if you are approach first with a girl trying to grab your package. bluf: you will more than likely need to step to the girl after you make eye contact and get a smile; she may come to you but step to her immediately. there were some mongers there scooping up three to five girls at a time or at least drinks. so, it is easily to lure a girl away from guy that has more than his fair share just wave her to come over or whisper in her ear that you want to talk to her in private. 9). final rule: bring the real lube! these girls are using vaseline and baby oil which is not the proper thing to use and may even increase opportunity of breakage of the raincoat or degrade the coating of the raincoat.

bonus #10: i'm not a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118][CodeWord118][/url] person or a beach fan or bum so i was unprepared when i got there and was very much out of place, so i would like to share this with you so you don't make the same mistake that i did. this is a beach and everything is on the beach so it is okay to be super casual and wear flip-flops 24-7. pack light and be laid back. also you will have to catch a small boat to the actual beach so be prepared for three transfers from the airport and pack light so you are not tired by the time you walk on all the sand with your luggage. swimming trunks and an athletic top will get you any girl remember it's the 1500 pesos which is important not the cologne, jeans, slacks, shoes. just bring flip-flops, your equipments and supplies and relax. everything you need is on the beach. i did check out cocomangoes but it must operate late. at 930pm there was only private parties/groups there no freelance girls.

the performance with the girls i selected could have been better but they made sure i was able to explode my load one way or another. bbbj was not an option with all four girls. i would repeat and jennifer did a good job and finding me other girls but wanted a $300 peso tip. i told her $200 peso only because she knew i was "too big" for babe so i needed for her to stfu and lie for me.

here are few pics i have numbers. michelle, jennifer, babe and jenny. there are based out of cebu but come to boracay for more cash flow and one is based in and around boracay.

cheers!

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I was there last week. Before that I was there 5 or 6 years ago.

Wow, the prices remained the same, and the girlie scene I think is better. Couple of more bars, and the quality of the girls IMHO went up. The quality of girls is similar to EDSA (went there 2 days ago). The beers are 50 or 60 pesos for most bars. The ladies drinks are 200 or 250 pesos. The girls cost 1000 P bar fine; plus 1000P tip long time.

The bars are along an alleyway in the middle of Sabang parallel to the beach (you can't miss it).

The bars starting from the east end:

1) Sunset Disco: Currently closed. For sale sign on the door. It was kind of dumpy 5 years ago. It actually might be a good investment for the right type of person. They are currently building a pier/entertainment area over the water near there; after it is done, there might be more foot traffic.

2) Sabang Disco: A girlie bar.

3) Philippine Disco bar: Another girlie bar. Across Sabang Disco.

4) Venus Disco: New from 5 years ago. A girlie gar. My favorite for quality. Several nice ones (but couple might be 17). The girls in Sabang has no IDs. But I mumbled the girl looks 17, and the girl next to me said "it's OK". Haven't heard/read of any trouble/scams in Sabang.

5) Venue Disco: New from 5 years ago. Below Venus. This is an actual disco. Large disco with a loft. Not sure of the scene. Went there early. Several local girls dancing with themselves. Came back later; 50 pesos entrance fee. Somewhat empty. Not sure if the girls are freelancers or if they work for the bar.

6) Broadway Disco: Girlie bar in the back of a bar/music/entertainment area.

7) Hammerhead Broadway Disco: New from 5 years ago. Girlie bar above Broadway. My favorite bar in terms of layout. Stage is on the back wall, instead of the middle. You have comfortable leather couches where you can take off your sandals and put your feet on the coffee table. A/C is the best; cold; they don't have a curtain in the front door which lets in all the warm humid air.

8) Pink Panther Disco: Girlie bar. Dumpiest places charges the most for the San Miguel Light (70 pesos). There is a KTV upstairs.

I believe these are all the bars in Sabang. Did I miss any?

How to Get There:

1) Cheapest way-Take public bus from Manila to Bantagas Pier. Then take boat to Sabang.

2) Take Si-Kat. Bus plus boat combo from Southern Cross hotel. I believe Swagman hotel also has a service. Problem is that leave early from Manila.

3) What I did: From Angeles, take a private sedan taxi (cost is between 4400. 4750 pesos) to Batangas. Then take boat (cost is 230? Plus 2 junk fees. Terminal and environmental fees). If you leave Angeles at 10 AM, you can get there at 2 something for the 2:45 PM FSL boat. You can also leave anytime, and pay extra for your own private boat.

How to Leave:

1) Si-Kat or Swagman Fly the Bus. I took Swagman. Next time I will pay the extra 50 pesos for the Si-Kat (700 instead of 650). Bus from Batangas was large modified jeepney with A/C. It was uncomfortable and noisy.

2) Take boat (230 plus 1 fee). At Bantagas, you can either take the public bus, or arrange a private taxi to Manila. The taxi tout at the pier offered 2500 pesos (first offer). My PG hotel offered 3500 pesos. You can also call you Angeles hotel to pick you up (cost should be the same as the drop off charge).

Side Note: Wasn't impressed by the scuba diving Puerto Galera; it's OK. But it's good because it's close to shore. I thought Phuket was better. In PG, it's cool to rent your own private boat and to go island hopping and snorkeling. Don't pay those ridiculous prices posted. They're claiming a boatman association (new from before). They are trying to be like those Phuket transport ripoff pricks and gouge the tourist. I paid 1000 pesos for 4 hours from Small Laguna to White Beach and back.

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You might have misnamed one of the discos there, unless Village Disco no longer exists. I was just in Sabang with my gf in January. The talent was of a much more consistently high quality than it was four years ago, which was the last time I was there. You missed out on Verde Island, which might be the best wall diving in the entire Philippines except for the Sulu Sea liveaboard diving and Apo Reef to the west of Mindoro. In each of my three previous visits, I couldn't convince the dive shop to take me out to Verde because not enough additional divers wanted to pay the extra cost. It was always a minimum of six before they'd take you. This time, I could only get four, but we told them we'd pay a surcharge and they ended up taking us. The vis was only about 40-50 feet due to recent storms, but supposedly it can get up to 100 feet plus. On a clear day like that, it would be pretty spectacular. As it was, it was pretty damn good.

[QUOTE=GreenBud]I was there last week. Before that I was there 5 or 6 years ago.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great report. I am definitely going here on my next trip in July.

Could you give me any info about hotels. It seems there is not much info on the net about the different places to stay. Also, could you give me your opinion about the different beaches. From what i have read there is little laguna and big laguna? realistically how far apart are they and is there any advantage to staying one place or the other? Also from what i have read Sabang is more of a port than a beach so it is not the best beach to stay on.

To give you some more idea i am mostly searching for a nicer hotel with a huge bed and cold a/c like a 4 star type place.

[QUOTE=Devils 1]Thanks for the great report. I am definitely going here on my next trip in July.

Could you give me any info about hotels. It seems there is not much info on the net about the different places to stay. Also, could you give me your opinion about the different beaches. From what i have read there is little laguna and big laguna? realistically how far apart are they and is there any advantage to staying one place or the other? Also from what i have read Sabang is more of a port than a beach so it is not the best beach to stay on.

To give you some more idea i am mostly searching for a nicer hotel with a huge bed and cold a/c like a 4 star type place.[/QUOTE]Long time lurker. 1st time post. Anyway.

I've stayed at Big Apple Apartments ( $60/night) right in the middle of Sabang and Out of the Blue Villas Studio ( $45/night) on Small La Laguna ( 5-10 minute walk to Sabang.) Both are similar in quality (3. 9 stars), had large bed, nice a/c and had a small kitchen with refrigerator. The BA apt has 2X the space with a separate living room area and couch. I had trouble sleeping at BA Apt unless the a/c was blasting to drown out the noise all night. If you think you can find restful sleep at 3AM in the middle of Sabang think again. OOB villas were nice and quiet all night but the walk was a pain. I would still probably stay at the BA Apt next time. It's just more convenient to be close to all the restaurants, dive shops, and nightlife. I can catch up on sleep at home.

Big LaLaguna ( 10-15min walk to Sabang) is the best beach in the Sabang area but I wouldn't stay there or Small LaLaguna for the beaches. The quiet atmosphere would be the reason. For a nice beach you would have to take a boat to White Beach ( 30mins away).

I took the Si-Kat service to get to Sabang. It leaves the City State Tower Hotel in Ermita at 8AM. You need to get there by 7:30AM and don't need a reservation. Roundtrip cost was $30. This includes a comfortable bus ride ( 2. 5hrs) to Batangas pier and a ferry ride ( 1hr 15min) to Sabang.

After a few days at the Dynasty Court I opted for a change of scene and went to stay at the Kingston Lodge which is about 7kms out of town past SM Mall but before the airport. Its deservedly highly rated on Trip advisor. Its now owned by an Aussie guy who bought out his British partner. Double rooms go for 1000P and suites with kitchenettes for 1500P . There is free wifi though in the al too frequent brownouts electricity is confined to the generator supplied bar/restaurant area. there are a couple of mid sized pools. Most of the rooms are taken by foreign guys with Filipina gfs in tow.
Taxis to centre of town are about 90P. The food is very good and reasonably priced by phis standards. Its a friendly place where most of the guests have a similar agenda/mindset and happy to chat. A big contrast with the city centre hotels which are mostly populated by Phil / Chinese business guys.

I had two girls whilst i was there, both from Tagged. The first was a 23 year old from Iligan with a fantastic slim but with big firm boobs body, quite a cute face but in need of some dental work. She was a very innocent girl, first time on almost everything we did from eating pizza up, but very willing. She really should have gone to Angeles/Manila/Cebu as with her body she could easily be earning 30/50k + a month.

The second was a student caregiver aged 25, a very pretty slim girl but with some stretch marks from a couple of kids. She has a very high sex drive and is a real expert in bed again I was she said (and I believe) her first foreign guy. Her differentiating feature was her sassy and humorous personality, in about 6 months in the phils meeting many many girls I would rank her in the top 1 or 2 in terms of attitude and fun personality.

Both these girls are keen to meet more guys so if you are in the area i'm happy to send you their DIA IDs or pass on your contact details if you wish, just PM me. I'm reluctant to just quote them here as previously some guys mentioned this to the girl in question and she got very upset.

[QUOTE=Rubio Tonto]You might have misnamed one of the discos there, unless Village Disco no longer exists. I was just in Sabang with my gf in January. The talent was of a much more consistently high quality than it was four years ago, which was the last time I was there. You missed out on Verde Island, which might be the best wall diving in the entire Philippines except for the Sulu Sea liveaboard diving and Apo Reef to the west of Mindoro.[/QUOTE]On bar number 3 (I wrote Philippine Disco bar), the sign says "Philippine Village Disco".

I heard great things about Apo Reef. I plan to do that one of these days.

[QUOTE=Devils 1]Thanks for the great report. I am definitely going here on my next trip in July.

Could you give me any info about hotels. It seems there is not much info on the net about the different places to stay. Also, could you give me your opinion about the different beaches. From what i have read there is little laguna and big laguna? realistically how far apart are they and is there any advantage to staying one place or the other? Also from what i have read Sabang is more of a port than a beach so it is not the best beach to stay on.

To give you some more idea i am mostly searching for a nicer hotel with a huge bed and cold a/c like a 4 star type place.[/QUOTE]If you google puerto galera hotels, you get a lot of info.

I usually stay at the Portofino in Small Laguna ([url]http://www.portofino.com.ph/index.htm[/url])

It is decent; studios and one or two bedrooms. Maybe 3 stars, which is good for a beach area. I like it because you can put the toilet paper in the toilet instead of the trash bin. It's closer to the nightlife in Sabang than Big Laguna (Only a small distance, but I'm lazy). More Quiet. Nice pool. Beds can be better, but not that bad. Problem is that for the large bed, they put 2 twins together. OK A/C. Has a kitchen. Guest friendly. Beach in Small Laguna is yucky; when I was there, a lot of algae. At high tide, the beach goes away.

But be warned about the laundry service. The maid/staff does it; they ripped me off. I gave them the laundry; they didn't weigh it in front of me. It should have been around 2 or 2. 5 kilos. But it came back as 5 kilos. I complained when I checked out, and the clerk gave it to me as 4 kilos.

Better hotels in that area is the Red Sun. Next to the Portofino; looks expensive. Also, Atlantis looks nice in Sabang; right in the middle of the nitelife. The price was 100 something for the lowest level room. ([url]http://www.Atlantishotel.com/puertogalera/index.php[/url])

The better beach in that area is Big Laguna; it's over the peninsula as you head away from Small Laguna and Sabang. See this site for good info: [url]http://www.Philippines-travel-guide.com/la-laguna-beach-club.html[/url].

Hence in that "Sabang area", you have Sabang (marginal beach, nitelife central), Small Laguna (approx 10 minute walk to Sabang, quiet), and Big Laguna (better beach, quiet, but additional walk-not sure of how much extra time)

The best beach is White Beach. It's about a 30 minute boat ride from Small Laguna. You can also get there by jeepney/trike.

Sabang is not really a port; although they're building something over the water (right where you get off from the boat)

Note: If you miss the boat to Sabang from Batangas, you can take the boat to Muelle port (Puerto Galera town), and take the jeepney for 20 pesos to Sabang (last one is at approx 6 PM; then you can take a trike for between 80 to 100 pesos).

El Galleon Resort at Small La Laguna Beach is very reasonable and has excellent food. There are three or four pricing tiers, ranging from about $55 USD to about $250 USD.

If you're a diver, don't get Apo Reef (west of Mindoro) and Apo Island (east of Negros) mixed up. Two different types of diving, from what I hear. Apo Reef has more pelagics.

[QUOTE=Tungsten Chef]I can't believe this asshole. He quit his job when I was there last month. He doesn't want to work figuring now that his daughter has a foreigner she should pay his way in life. ...Yesterday he said he was going to stab his wife. ...
It's not a good situation for my wife and son. Thank Christ only a few months and they will be here with me. And old Tostito can sell fish balls at the school.[/QUOTE]Oh what i situation if I understand you correct. Your wifes father is in your house, or house paid by you, where your son and wife life. And he dont work and threatening to stab his own wife?

Based on my own experience with lazy father, I think you have only one choice, throw out the father and get him away. And then you learn your wife that her father might be very dangerous now and more later. She will insist on forgiving her father, since own blood, but you must show you are a man here. Good luck whatever you do.

I am planning my next trip, and a couple of the women that I want to spend time with in CDO prefer that we spend a week or so together. This is OK with me, but I will want to get them out of town so that I am not forced to meet with her family, friends etc.

Does anyone have experience of resorts that are not excessively expensive, yet within striking distance of CDO?

Thanks in anticipation,

G

Within striking distance of CDO?

Just go to Camiguin island, you can take a fast ferry from the Pier in CdO,

Maybe Bohol is an alternative too, but not that near, Camiguin is only a couple of hours by Supercat.

Yes, it is so near that there is a possibility you will meet friends and/or family there, but what the heck when nobody knows you're going there

Don't go to Balingoan for a ferry. To much of a fuss to go there by bus.

The Tourist information is on Velez when I am not mistaken and I did my booking in the Mall nearby, Gaisano at CM Recto, walking distance (for me) from the tourist office.

Locals do know even better ways I think.

[QUOTE=Gangles]I am planning my next trip, and a couple of the women that I want to spend time with in CDO prefer that we spend a week or so together. This is OK with me, but I will want to get them out of town so that I am not forced to meet with her family, friends etc.

Does anyone have experience of resorts that are not excessively expensive, yet within striking distance of CDO?

Thanks in anticipation,

G[/QUOTE]

The Marco Hotel in Cugman fits your criteria perfectly, if you read back through my posts you will find a couple of detailed reports on this place. I like it so much that I will be back there again next month
M

Camiguin is the resort islanmd closest to CDO and of course CDO girls will love to go there. Angel was very keen fopr me to viist her home town iligan about 90mins bus down the road from CDO. She says its cheaper place top stay than CDO. There were a few girls from there keen to contact me, It gets far fewer visitors than CDO.

As a general point many of my best finds have been friends or friends of friends from girls I originally met on the dating sites. Once you make clear that marriage is not on the agenda, the majority of Phil girls are willing to set you up with friends and cousins sometimes as threesomes sometimes as alternative dates. The general perspective seems to be that a western guy without a sexy girl in his bed is a pitiful thing and many girls will text all their friends trying to find suitable girls to join you. At least if you treat them nicely that is.

[QUOTE=Gangles]I am planning my next trip, and a couple of the women that I want to spend time with in CDO prefer that we spend a week or so together. This is OK with me, but I will want to get them out of town so that I am not forced to meet with her family, friends etc.

Does anyone have experience of resorts that are not excessively expensive, yet within striking distance of CDO?

Thanks in anticipation,

G[/QUOTE]

Huis Wijn,

Camiguin is a definite must. It's a couple of hours from CDO.

In Mambajao, be certain to stop in at the Rooftop Hotel and Restaurant. George is a great guy who can help you out.

Mantigue Island is beautiful. There are plenty of waterfalls, the people are friendly. Trust me, women will love you for it.

Hey GL,

Thanks for the info about Camiguim.

Do you have any suggestions about hotels, maybe mid range.

I spent some time in Iligan with Miss P. It is cheaper than CDO,but much smaller, and there is a potential problem with a girl who wants to be with you, but does not want her family to know. So she will be very reluctant to walk around town with you, as she wll be seen by family/friends/neighbours, who wil report immediately.

There is also a problem with power, so be careful to get a hotel that has a back up generator.

Thanks again,

G

[QUOTE=Gangles]Hey GL,

Thanks for the info about Camiguim.

Do you have any suggestions about hotels, maybe mid range.

I spent some time in Iligan with Miss P. It is cheaper than CDO,but much smaller, and there is a potential problem with a girl who wants to be with you, but does not want her family to know. So she will be very reluctant to walk around town with you, as she wll be seen by family/friends/neighbours, who wil report immediately.

There is also a problem with power, so be careful to get a hotel that has a back up generator.

Thanks again,

G[/QUOTE]
Gangles, I suggest you try Paras resort. It's not deluxe, but it's comfortable and right on the beach. The people there will arrange scuba or snorkeling trips or a trip out to white island for you.

Try the Rooftop in downtown Mambajao. There are some beautiful rooms, all at very reasonable rates.

The problem is that transportation is centered in Mambajao, and if you stay at the beach (say, Yumbing) you're stuck without any transportation, especially at night.

[QUOTE=SergeantRay]Try the Rooftop in downtown Mambajao. There are some beautiful rooms, all at very reasonable rates.

The problem is that transportation is centered in Mambajao, and if you stay at the beach (say, Yumbing) you're stuck without any transportation, especially at night.[/QUOTE]
That's true what you say about the transportation. I had my own car, so it wasn't an issue, and I'm sorry I forgot to mention it.

Thank you gentlemen,

Right on the wire.

I think I am going to have a very nice time.

G

Hi,

Does anyone have any tips for mongering in this city beneath Mt Mayon? Doesn't seem to be a lot happening from the searches I've done within the site.

Cheers

Yes Camiguin is close to CDO and I have been 3 times each with a different chick from CDO. They love it, once I took a rent a car that I had for 2 week, wow do they love that.

So I have always stayed at Secret Cove, located just past Paras. The owner is a Canadian from Kelowna BC who has been there for 10 years or so with his lovely wife. Good food, great bar with a huge collection of Scotch. The local expats come for breakfast and again for happy hour.

What I have always liked is that Camiguin is so clean and the people are just like the say "where Asia wears a smile".

Get a DIA girl, bar girl, student girl whatever and go.

The problem with Paras Beach Resort (first set of pics) is unless you are deaf the blaring kareoke machine will ruin any hope for peace and quiet regardless of where your room is. It does have the best facilities and grounds for sure.

Secret Cove (pictured below Paras) is much smaller (less than 10 rooms), friendlier and quieter. Unique and full of character. Be discrete here as there are few sex tourists (this aint Boracay or Sabang!) This applies all over sleepy, conservative, Camiguin. An example is when we swam the girl I brought (last picture at white beach) was the only one wearing a bathing suit. The local girls would wear tshirts and shorts or even long pants like it was Malaysia.

Rocky beach, like most of Camiguin. White island is the bomb, but its a 5 minute bacna ride offshore. If you want to lounge on a sand beach outside your room Bohol, not Camiguin, is the better choice and not that much farther from CDO. It has way more development and foreigners, however.

Batangas
Iloilo city
Bacolod
Dumaguete
Kalibo
Zamboanga
General Santos
Davao
Baguio
Ilocos Sur

Which 3 of the above cities are best for nightlife and being an enjoyable city to stay in (ease of getting around, good food, not dangerous, etc)?

It has been a long time since I was last in Bagiuo, is there nuch going on there these days? Any suggestions? How about a cheap hotel in the thick of it? What are some good bars for P2P? Last time I was there it was all massage parlors. Any change? Prices? How about Vigan? I have never been there, but would like to visit.

Thanks

It is NOT a mongering destination at all, and the rainy season is now beginning in the Cordillera so unless you like cold and wet, forgetaboutit. Vigan is the quietest and deadest provincial capital I've seen in all the PI. The North just aint the place for mongering. If you must find action in the North Laoag is likely your best option.

Visayas and Mindanao is the motherload NOT Luzon (except Bicol perhaps, which I don't know well having last visited I the 90s). Puerto Galera really presents an unbeatable combination of the natural beauty and daytime activities coupled with girlie bars for after dark and good tourism infrastructure.

Got the 1.15pm Cebu Pacific flight from Cebu and touched down at an amazing 20 minutes ahead of schedule. Check in went really smooth, no inspection of liquids or gels this time. I stuck with hand carry only as my last trip to CDO involved a 50 minute flight from Cebu and a 50 minute wait for my luggage to arrive on the carousel.

Went out of the terminal to be greeted by 3 or 4 persistent taxi touts whom I ignored completely. I went over to the meter taxi rank to find none of them were willing to use the meter even on the promise of a reasonable tip. All wanted around 450 pesos with some going down to 350 even though I know my metered fare is about 170. One driver even had the audacity to tell me the price was high because he had been waiting all day for a fare at the airport. I felt like telling him to get off his lazy ass and drive round down town and get some honest work on his meter.

Now I can easily afford 450 pesos it is just that I hate being ripped off and cheated. Some people might argue it is not worth the hassle but I have a bit of a stubborn streak. With drivers still following me on foot, I turned round and headed back to the terminal with the intention of finding out if there any jeepneys, or minibuses into town. I stopped a Filipina woman coming out of the terminal and asked her if she knew of any place I could catch a jeepney into town. She replied that she knows foreigners get ripped off by the taxi drivers and she offered to drop me into town on her way home. Turns out her husband had come to pick her up and I gratefully accepted her offer. You should have seen the expression on the taxi driver's faces, worth a million dollars when they saw me heading off with this woman into the car park.

Really nice family, and we had an interesting chat into town, where they dropped me off at a taxi rank. Wouldn't take any money, what a kind hearted gesture I thought. The subsequent taxi ride cost me 70 pesos.

Met up with an old gf and her 20 year old daughter with the promise of a threesome, but for a number of reasons it did not work out and I sent them home after an hour at the hotel. I then contacted another DIA contact I had cultivated over the last few months. Aged 26, girl next door type, no make up in her photo but cute in a natural way. We exchanged texts and she told me that she was working at a resort 10 minutes from my hotel (The Marco in Cugman). I arranged to go over and see her and grabbed a taxi. The address had been given was the Paras Agusan Resort but the taxi driver had never heard of this place. We stopped for directions a number of times and eventually turned off the main highway down a long winding unlit dirt track, through a shanty town slum of tin shacks. We eventually arrive at a high security compound with steel gates and armed guards and I begin to think to myself WTF have I got myself into? The guard would not allow us into the compound so I gave him my DIA girls name so he could phone ahead. He finished the call and waved us through. I am thinking to myself that this does not look anyway like a beach resort but I hold my composure as we drive up the path to a large detached building where my DIA girl is waiting enthusiastically.

Turns out she works for Jess Paras a congressional candidate in the forthcoming elections for the senate and this is his own private beach club/Election HQ. I am greeted by all her friends and we go off on the verandah overlooking the sea for a coffee and chat. She is a lovely girl but when I suggest going downtown for dinner, she tells me she is scared. I reassure her and although her DIA photo does her more justice than she deserves, I left emptyhanded but not disappointed and promised to text her the following day. Unusually for DIA this girl is not looking for fun or a meal ticket, she seems genuine and just wants to meet someone who is serious and wants to settle down. I always thought I had no morals, but I just don't want to exploit this poor girl, she is far too nice for me thats for sure.

Later in the evening I headed down to Visoria where the night market is situated. Saw lots of street WGs including quite a few ones that looked extremely risky in terms of chronology. I decided to head back to my hotel, it has been a long day, I am tired and strangely enough sleeping alone for the first time since I arrived in the Philippines.

Glad to be back at the Marco it is like an oasis of calm. 60 pesos ride from downtown and with promo rates still running which means I get a deluxe cottage for 1600. Massive room, with huge verandah and could comfortably accomodate 4 adults.....now thats a thought to go to sleep with :-)

Spent yesterday trawling the malls, before pre arranged meetings took place with a couple of DIA girls. I decided to hit Gaisano and experiment see whether I still can could pick up girls like I did on my last visit here. Set about shop girls first, got the number of a cute girl working on the top floor in a cell phone shop, aged 19 and tiny. Then round to the other side on the same floor and using the top of the escalater and advertising hoarding to keep out of view of the first girl, had my second number within 5 minutes from one of the girls working the perfume stand, again aged 19. That was too easy so I set myself a more difficult challenge, try and stop a complete stranger who is not a shop girl. Again within 5 minutes I was chatting to a young girl aged 20 with a small baby. Turns out she was child minding for her eldest sister and after only 3-4 minutes of chatting had her cell.

Ok time was ticking on so I made my way to the ground floor where I had arranged to meet a DIA girl at 2pm. She arrived at 2.30pm (as usual Filipinas are always late) with a friend in tow. Both girls looked ok and before we had even started a conversation they complained of being hungry and not having any money. I am wise to this trick now so I was quite blunt and told them I only take my girlfriend out for meals. I invited both girls back to my hotel making it clear I was only looking for fun and within seconds we were in a taxi on our way back to the hotel. Arrived in the room and offered drinks to the girls and was just engaging in general chit chat. I was not in the mood to hang around so I thought I would try a completely different approach this time. I told both girls I just wanted sex only and that I would give one or both of them 1000 pesos if they agreed. They seemed completely unfazed and began whispering in Visayas to each other and giggling. I could see them pushing each other as if to say "go on you do it". Both girls appeared very shy but since they were still negotiating with each other I reckoned I was in with a chance. Finally the girl I had arranged to meet told me her friend would do it and she went out onto the verandah with her coke leaving me in the room with the other girl.

The girl I was with was extremely shy and with my help I managed to get her undressed and onto the bed. She seemed completely inexperienced and her kissing technique was also quite poor. As usual with all the Filipinas I tend to meet, she declined a shower so that instantly put DATY out of my mind. Talk about a complete starfish she just lay there like a corpse hardly moving. After a few minutes of playing with her pussy, she got quite wet and I entered her only to find she was in a great deal of pain. I hopped off the bed, and returned within seconds with copious amounts of KY and making sure we were both well lubricated I entered her slowly a second time. Managed to get all the way in and I was just sooo horny and within seconds blew my load just at the same moment she pushed me off, clearly it was causing her too much discomfort. As I withdrew I noticed a few blood spots on the quilt cover and I realised this girl was in all probability a virgin. She had already intimated that she had previously had a boyfriend so I assumed she was not a virgin. However when I questioned her further she confirmed that I was her first experience of sex. Not a great experience for either of us, but it fulfilled my immediate needs and once dressed I paid her 1000 pesos plus a bit extra for the jeepney and waved both girls goodbye.

The girl from the cell phone shop was constantly texting me that afternoon, I probably received in excess of 60 texts within the space of a few hours. She wanted to meet me with her friend after work in Divisoria and I figured this was a ploy for me to ply them with food and drink all night before they left me to go home alone. I turned down the girl and said I was busy but that I would call her the following day.

I met up with Ruth the girl I met on the first day and we had a nice meal across the road from Limketkai that evening. I was feeling tired and about 11pm after a couple of beers I told her I needed an early night. She was keen to go to the night cafe but I knew she just didn't do it for me on a physical level although she is good company, intelligent and respectable. Would make a really good wife for someone, not just for me. I paid for her cab home and got a seperate one back to my hotel.

Thanks for the report. It is true that getting the number of the girl is really easy, but to get the girl to sleep with you is another story. They are all very eager and interested to text, and maybe to be invited with their friends to Jollibee, but this still does not bring them into your bed, at least not for the younger 18-20 generation.

Headed into town for my last supper and ended up at Lexis Grill situated round the back of the Philtown Hotel. Live half decent band, food was almost of a reasonable standard and good atmosphere. I was tucking into my grilled Bangus and sipping a beer oblivious to all, when I was suddenly confronted with three uniformed police officers photographing me. My heart skipped a beat as he said "please sir can we get a shot of you drinking your beer?" Happy to oblige as always I took a nervous swig and the cops walked off. It was only when the woman sat at the table next to me explained the situation that it dawned on me I had become the unwitting acomplice in the crime of the century. Apparently it is illegal to serve beer on the night before an election and it is my guess at least another 5000 establishments would also be guilty in CDO alone.

Anyway I was relieved when told I had nothing to worry about, it was the establishment that would be in trouble, probably another big back hander to those wonderfully corrupt men in uniform.

Anyway I decided to head back to my hotel around 7pm for a shower and head back out later that evening. The girl from the cell phone shop had been texting and phoning all day so I decided to meet her in Divisoria later.

My hotel is situated in its own grounds and has a business park, language school and a number of private housing developments on a large sprawling estate. My walk back to the hotel cottage took me past some large detached houses and I saw a young woman busy washing the patio of one of the houses. There was a large for sale sign on the side of the building and I asked her how much it was selling for? She told me it was on sale for 11 million pesos and invited me in to look around.

Turns out she is the housekeeper and the owner a chinese businessman only stays there occasionally as his main base is in Manila. Was not particularly impressed with the house, I thought the kitchen was poor quality and too small although it did have 7 bedrooms.

Anyway the purpose of this story is the housekeeper as you might have guessed. She seemed older than her years, turns out she was 21 but could have passed for late 20's. Very very slim, almost like the size zero you see on the fashion catwalks but also only about 5 feet tall, so she carried her slim frame well. She was acutely shy and kept laughing nervously at everything I said even though it wasn't funny. As I was leaving I asked her if she would like to join me in my cottage for drinks and to watch some TV since she was all alone like me. She declined, shaking her head shyly, looking at the floor and I left telling her my room number and if she changed her mind to just knock.

An hour later just as I am getting ready to go back out, I get a knock on my door and guess what, not only do I have the housemaid waiting at the door, she is actually dressed in a pair of pyjamas. I invite her in and we sit on the bed exchangng chit chat and watching TV.

I spend ages trying to convince her to stay the night and she won't even kiss me or even let me touch her. In the end I promise her I will be a good boy and talk her into staying. Anyway once in bed she will not let me so much as touch her but I am a persistent devil, or at least the devil in my pants is and eventually after many attempts on my part, we start kissing passionately. She still prevents my hands from wandering and all of a sudden I get a searing pain in my lower lip as she bites me ferociously drawing blood. WTF, I throw her off me and launch into a verbal tirade at her. I absolutely do not like that kind of behaviour and I am just about ready to grab her by the arm and throw her out of the room.

She apologises profusely and I accept her apology grudgingly (the pain of a hard penis outweighed the pain in my lip) and we begin to start to kiss again. My hands are still pushed away if I try anything intimate and eventually I manage to slip my hand down the back of her pyjama bottoms. She complains, tries half heartedly to pull my hand away but then leaves my hand there. I start massaging the cheeks of her bottom. I swear to god she had one of the tightest, smallest bottoms I have ever encountered and I was raging hard by now. I slipped her bra undone at the back and in no time was rubbing my hands around her tiny breasts. I pushed her onto her back and pushed my hands down her panties before she could protest and her pussy was dripping wet. All protests had ended as I eagerly pulled off her pyjamas and climbed on top of her missionary. Considering she was tiny and considering she had never had kids, entering her was just like throwing my penis up Oxford Street on a wet Wednesday. Her pussy was just so ready I am sure she had not had sex for ages she was just so eager.

We tried all sorts of positions that night, she even enjoyed my finger inside her arse and about 2 hours later we collapsed in a sweaty heap and fell asleep. What a night, took her to breakfast the following morning and said my goodbyes promising (as always) to stay in touch and left for the airport. I gave her a £25 wristwatch as a goodbye gift but didn't have enough in ready cash to leave her any money. I feel a little bit bad I did not reward her more, but I never anticipated this event and I only had enough cash to see me through to Cebu, until I arrived at my hotel. I had originally been planning to head back downtown that night where I would have drawn cash from one of the ATM's, but as they say "the best laid plans" This girl was like a treasure find, in no way pretty or cute but with a great body that more than made up for it. If any of you guys stay at the Marco in CDO she stays in the house on the right as you walk up the hill towards the cottages. It has a great big for sale sign on it. Stop by and chat to her, you just might get lucky as I did.

[QUOTE=Mortman]..........
After a few minutes of playing with her pussy, she got quite wet and I entered her only to find she was in a great deal of pain. I hopped off the bed, and returned within seconds with copious amounts of KY and making sure we were both well lubricated I entered her slowly a second time. Managed to get all the way in and I was just sooo horny and within seconds blew my load just at the same moment she pushed me off, clearly it was causing her too much discomfort. As I withdrew I noticed a few blood spots on the quilt cover and I realised this girl was in all probability a virgin. She had already intimated that she had previously had a boyfriend so I assumed she was not a virgin. However when I questioned her further she confirmed that I was her first experience of sex. Not a great experience for either of us, but it fulfilled my immediate needs and once dressed I paid her 1000 pesos plus a bit extra for the jeepney and waved both girls goodbye.
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I am not being a smart ass here nor am I moralizing Mort but you never mentioned the word "condom" in your detailed story, and I can't remember if you said you were vasectomised or not.
If you didn't use the raincoat then I just hope that you didn't impregnate this little inexperienced Bisayan girl and she ends up preggers as a result of your horniness. Some of these girls are incredibly fertile - let's hope the blood was from her impending or just finished period.

I met up with the beautiful Miss P, who I have been sponsoring through college.

She had come from Iligan to meet with me in Angeles a bit over a year before. And it was one of the most pleasant liaisons that I have had, ever. She is just lovely, personality, body, not too experienced, but a very willing lover. We had such a nice time together. She had completed about half of a degree, then the family ran out of money. So I offered to pay her school fees to finish her degree. I get regular updates on grades etc, and when we are together, she gives me the receipts for payments made to the college.

Not surprising I suppose, that when she gets a bit of money, the kilos just creep up. Not chubby, but not quite as slim as before. Nice middle B cup size. A very attractive package. To make things a bit messier, she had just started her periods. So our first business was to go to Robinson’s mall and buy a large, thick, brown towel to spread over the sheet in case of spillage or leakage.

Also, she was in the throes of her final exams for the semester, so my job was to provide an environment which was as conducive to study as possible. The large room helped in this case, and availability of power and my laptop meant that she could do her research unhindered by power blackouts.

She had booked me in to the Cheradel Suites, pretty upmarket for Iligan, pool, generator. Standard room is 2450, presidential suite is 3,000. Not good value for money in my books, but the key was the backup generator, which was essential in our situation.

And it was just lovely to be able to catch up, and make love as we had before, such a long time before in Angeles. Beautiful body, very amenable nature, totally uninhibited. Life can be just so good.

Things have bumped along here. I went to CDO to check it out as a place to live. It seems OK so far, and I will get the grand tour on Friday, my last day.

Had a very frustrating experience there.

I had booked into the

I had been chatting with a Miss C from CDO for a while, and we agreed to meet. But she then told me that she lived in Iligan. So I sent a bus fare. But she had no ID, so I had to send her fare in her brother's name. Curious? She wanted to bring her cousin to check me out. OK, I agreed. She was going to get to CDO from Illigan by 5 pm. Then it got later and later.

I called my taxi driver and we went to some bars for a couple of beers and a chat, ogle the girls. Eventually I went back to the hotel at midnight and they are still not there. They eventually turned up at 2 am, the guards had them bailed up at the front door. I could not figure out who was who, trying to relate names to photos. Anyhow, I cleared them with the guards, and we went upstairs to the room. All the while, Miss C said nothing, and the cousin did all of the talking.

Then there was a confrontation because the cousin had no place to stay. When we talked, the cousin answered all of the questions, which I found frustrating. So I kicked the cousin out with 500 pesos. But Miss C was so scared and nervous that I just pushed her to the other side of the bed and I slept as best I could.

I spoke to Miss C over breakfast next morning, and an inconsistent tale came out. She couldn't get her times and dates right. Could not tell me when she graduated high school, said she was pregnant in her last year of high school, did not graduate. But she is 21 yo. Kid is 17 months old. But her profile on Cherry Blossoms shows 28 yo. In summary, I think that the person who I have been communicating with is actually 2 people, Miss C and her cousin. Maybe a shake down, maybe a scam. What a schemozzle.

Later in the morning, the cousin turned up. When I compared phone numbers, the story came out. I was right that the profile on CB was a mix of the two. The cousin, Miss V had done all of the talking and chatting, because her English is good, and she was trying to push her cousin to meet a foreigner. But the photos on the profile are definitely Miss C, and she is gorgeous.

Anyhow, we parted good company, and Miss C has decided that I am just what she is looking for, is desperately in love, and I am on a promise for my next trip to CDO.

Could be a lot worse.

I stayed in the Mallberry Suites, superior room, large queen sized bed, very new, everything worked, 4 star, 2200 per night. Good value fro money.

At the airport, the place is a disorganized rabble, and I could not distinguish touts from genuine taxi drivers, or metered taxis. I chose a guy who looked OK and spoke good English. As we drove into town, we had a good talk, and he would make a good tour guide. We negotiated 1500 for a half day tour around town and the local area.

Early that evening, nothing was coming good, so I texted him that I would buy him a few beers, if he showed me round the bars.

He mentioned a bar called Pyramid, top of the local standard.

No bf, ld are 275 per 30 minutes, entry charge of 150 per person, consumable. Beers are 50 and 55 pesos. Very quiet Monday evening, and we were early. About 20 girls, some were very presentable. Quite conservatively dressed. They would come over for a quick frontal rub. No more than that. It is on Recto Ave, over the Maharlika bridge.

We then went to Thrive, upstairs, fronts as a restaurant. Small place, in a small street. About 15 girls, and 3 were very good looking. Bf is 3500, cover charge of 50 per person, not consumable. Girls dance singly, progressively strip as time gets later, by the time that we left, 11pm, they were tops off, bottoms pulled down but not off. I expect that as the night wore on, it would be down to bare. They are advertising themselves for barfines, so they have a vested interest to show more as the night wears on, and they get more desperate. Reasonably comfortable sofas, not much hassling. The mama brought over a real beauty, Teresa, very slim, pretty face. Knew her way round the dancing, pole etc. I guess she has seen more than a few miles. Also, she understands English, and speaks passably.

Out the door, turn left, then left again is another bar, forget the name, same deal as the Thrive, full nudity, similar prices.

He says that there is a bar called Camagawa where the girls are also take out.

We drove around, just to get a feel for the place. Plenty of SW, even for Monday night. At 11pm, plenty could be seen on Velez St, concentrated round the VIP hotel, and the intersection with Pacana St. The cross streets either side had a few. Further along Velez, at the corner of Antonio Luna was a bigger bunch of girls, with pimps. My driver says that the standard price for foreigner Lt is 2500, but for pinoy, it is 1,000.

So he offers a service to cruise the streets with me in the back seat. I choose the girl, and he calls her over, negotiates, then if agreed, she gets into the back, and I have a local girl at pinoy price.

He also offers to prearrange a few girls for you to choose from, for a modest fee.

He will also meet you at the airport, take you in to town for the standard rate, which is 350 pesos. I think if you got a metered taxi it would be less, but maybe not much less.

PM me for his contact details.

G

I wanted to try the VIP hotel, because it is literally in the middle of the action. Velez St is sw central, with plenty of girls in the side streets.

The advertised price on their web page for a standard room with matrimonial bed is 850. Actual price is 1950 for a business room with matrimonial bed.

Velez St, phone 08822) 726 080 you must dial all of this number. 726 552, 856 2505.

I got a front room, and the noise level was deafening all night. The place is worn out. Very overpriced, the Mallberry beats this place hands down for value for money.

Turned out that at midnight, when I went out to look for a SW, there were few obvious sw. I decided to walk down the street to the Divisoria mall, whch was almost totally closed down. I was accosted by a pimp, and negotiated a price of 700 for a girl for the rest of the night till 6 am. I told him that I like them skinny, and he brought a skinny one. But her dress, demeanor and facial expression were against her, and my thoughts were on Miss J. So I turned him down. Later I thought that her demeanor was probably because she was very new at the business. But she was so badly dressed that I could not walk her through the lobby, and the stalls were closed so I could not buy her a pair of jeans.

I checked out New Oro Love City. It was now 12.30 midnight, Friday. The place is very bare, and there is no comparison with the bars of Angeles, or Burgos, or Cebu for entertainment, energy and ambience. There were only a few customers, generally low life pinoys. Probably 10 girls. Surprisingly 3 of them were more than presentable. Good figures, no obvious stretch marks, reasonably pretty faces.

The bf is 3,000, lt, total price, bar plus girl. Or you can pay 2,000 for a romp in a VIP room, time unlimited, and apparently anything goes. Ld is 500 for the first, 250 for others. Beers 50 pesos, 60 pesos entry, not consumable.

But by now I had miss J on my mind, and all others faded into insignificance in comparison, so I departed empty handed.

I had found Miss J on a dating site a few months before I started my trip, and she came through as very different to almost all women that I had found this way. She is university qualified, a professional, and well established in her profession. Well paid, financially secure, family middle class.

So before I got to CDO, I had started a texting blitz, that she seemed to enjoy. I had allocated her Saturday night, as she could not get away from her job earlier. For a while, I thought that she would pike out on me, but eventually, she said that she was on the bus, and I should wait at the bus station. This I did, standing in the middle of the entry, like a shag on a rock.

Then a text asking where I was, I replied, then began a game, she was hiding. Eventually she said that she was at the taxi rank, at the back of the terminal. I walked around, looking, suddenly there she was. Pretty good.

We spoke very briefly. She did not want to be seen with a man, particularly a foreigner. So we slid into a cab, and I said that I was hungry, and so was she.

So she directed the cab to a resort on the edge of town which had a nice open aired restaurant.

We ate a pretty decent meal, and the conversation flowed. Later, the resto wanted to close, so we got drinks, and went over to the pool side, on two lounges, and continued the conversation. She was not going to come back to the room, but I really didn’t care. I was enjoying this so much.

We talked for hours, I mapped the constellations in the stars, she told me about her career, family, anything else.

It was enchanting.

Eventually we just ran out of steam, walked to the guard house and got a taxi. She dropped me at the hotel and headed off into the night.

What a lovely experience.

So now she is totally committed, and the next visit is going to start off at a pretty high level of intensity.

Wow.

Bohol - Panglao Island

Beautiful Alona Beach - not as crowded and tourist like Boracay - cheap prices, nice people - good place to relax. Good for bring your date in there. But i really had a great time with local girls and in local bars. I also enjoyed the nice relaxing atmosphere and excellent food. If you say Philipiine food sucks - try pork adobo or fresh seafood at Opss Bar. For the food/disco a very good place. For drinking - Helmut's Place is a must. Great owner (from Germany) and nice staff in there. Beautiful island for snorkeling/diving.

Boracay

For me the number one in Philipiines. Also the most expensive one. Amazing white beach - great people to party with. I went out almost every night with guys i met in Red Coconut Hotel Bar. (By the way i stayed in this hotel and it is highly recomended- also for the cool bar staff). Again the food was very good.

We become a group of me + english, german, french, new zealand, american guys and we really had a nice time. I also met a guy from Slovakia, girls from Russia, guys from Israel, Austria. Try Summer Place disco. While it is better to bring your girl for a holiday you will not have a problem with finding one in Boracay. Summer Place is just one of many places you can find them. Be careful for LB's on your way back to the hotel. One night we even met some nice girls at a local disco and after we had a swim in the sea completely naked with them and then a great sex on the beach for free. Watch out for the happy hours at the bars - usually from 4-8 PM.

I really had a time of my life there with my new friends. We even organised a boat trip and had a big party on boat.

[QUOTE=Mortman]Considering she was tiny and considering she had never had kids, entering her was just like throwing my penis up Oxford Street on a wet Wednesday. Her pussy was just so ready I am sure she had not had sex for ages she was just so eager.

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Love the turn of phrase. It's interesting how some of the girls who put most effort into resisting are the hottest when they actually give in. Whereas the more experienced girls "wanna fuck.... whatever" are often so disappointing

[QUOTE=Slufagus]It has been a long time since I was last in Bagiuo, is there nuch going on there these days?[/QUOTE]Surfer's right -- it's a dead loss. I like Baguio and spend a lot of time there, but do my mongering before or afterwards at Bauang and Poro Point, which are a couple km from each other down on the coast just south of San Fernando La Union. To my knowledge this is the most northerly place in the Philippines where you're likely to find what you're looking for.

I once had the pleasure of arriving in SF L Union via a US Navy destroyer, and they put on a nice show for us on the pier - including the song "in the Navy"

Later that afternoon, I found a great gal in a bar, and she took me back to her bamboo shack, and we shagged in that shack.

Betong, hope you can give us some info about the La Union coast.

[QUOTE=Betong]Surfer's right -- it's a dead loss. I like Baguio and spend a lot of time there, but do my mongering before or afterwards at Bauang and Poro Point, which are a couple km from each other down on the coast just south of San Fernando La Union. To my knowledge this is the most northerly place in the Philippines where you're likely to find what you're looking for.[/QUOTE]

Any info on this seaside university city?

I have met a gal on dia and she hails from there.

Looks ok from what I can google up.

But would love some info from someone who has actually mongered there.

Looks like some good little beach resorts close by which I'm into.

I don't want to stay at a hotel in a city which seems the case in Cebu.

I want pussy and beach and internet in same place.

the bars in bauang (ba-wahng) are mostly attached to the beach resorts and attract mainly westerners. the style is similar to the smaller bars in barrio barretto, as are quality and price. i've found about half a dozen places but there might be others rep001tered around.

the poro point bars line the highway a couple km north of bauang and they have the unmistakable look of an old r&r area (wallace air station was just up the road). clientele these days is mostly filipino and they (and the girls) can get rowdy, but people are friendly and unless you get drunk and obnoxious you're unlikely to have any trouble. maybe a couple dozen bars in total, mostly very small.

nothing to get excited about if you've just come from ac or even subic, but barely an hour's drive from baguio . . . .

[QUOTE=Vandaddio]Any info on this seaside university city?

I have met a gal on dia and she hails from there.

Looks ok from what I can google up.

But would love some info from someone who has actually mongered there.

Looks like some good little beach resorts close by which I'm into.

I don't want to stay at a hotel in a city which seems the case in Cebu.

I want pussy and beach and internet in same place.[/QUOTE]Why not check out the Dumaguete thread below the one you posted on??

Most of your questions are answered there if you are prepared to do some leg work.

Don't think it is out of date because anything written about Dumaguete from 2005 will still be current - not much changes there.

Just watch out for the baklas along the Esplanade opposite What's Up. Some are quite deceptive but all are aggressive.

Thanks for the RedKilt,

I read several pages on that place and it sounds nice but rather too quiet.

Most say bring your own pussy, which defeats the purpose a wee bit.

Maybe a beach resort close to cebu is the answer?

The easiest placwe to pick up a p4p is in front of the Why Not KTV on the promenade. They are often sitting inside a trycicle, and you go round the corner to negotiate the deal. I had a choice of 2. She was OK, about fair value for the price.

The bars listed in the Dumaguete thread are in operation, but they are pretty low life. Some of the girls are quite eye catching, but the customers were low end pinoys blowing their dough. My guide was upper class old Spanish money, so he was very uncomfortable, so we could not stay long.

I met a veery nice young lady while walking along the promenade early afternoon. Next day we went to the island just offshore and had a very pleasant day. So they are there if you are a bit game.

Gangles.

[QUOTE=Betong]Surfer's right -- it's a dead loss. I like Baguio and spend a lot of time there, but do my mongering before or afterwards at Bauang and Poro Point, which are a couple km from each other down on the coast just south of San Fernando La Union. To my knowledge this is the most northerly place in the Philippines where you're likely to find what you're looking for.[/QUOTE]

This is generally correct, but "dead loss" is a bit exaggerated. I've been there twice for several days. After dark there are girls waiting along the edges of Burnham Park. Once I waited an hour on the overpass from the park to downtown, and was offered service by a girl who wandered by; she spent the night. She was among the ugliest I've even been with, but not fat or anything, and this is something to note about the Ifugao population. There is a bikini bar or two in the Legarda Road area; I did not investigate take-out. And twice I've hooked up with pairs of nurses/nursing students getting drunk out of their minds in normal bars; no sex but fun; one pair took me to the (then) new Nevada Square club venue.

Any you guys have some info on this hotel?? Location? Cleanliness? Close to action?

[QUOTE=Mayntain]Any you guys have some info on this hotel?? Location? Cleanliness? Close to action?[/QUOTE]

it may have been sensible to tell people that the hotel is in CDO given this thread covers the entire phils ex some big cities.
Its located on Valez which is the centre of the action in CDO

[QUOTE=GregLondon]it may have been sensible to tell people that the hotel is in CDO given this thread covers the entire phils ex some big cities.
Its located on Valez which is the centre of the action in CDO[/QUOTE]
Do you have a few recommendations for hotels in CDO around the P1500 range??

[QUOTE=Mayntain]Do you have a few recommendations for hotels in CDO around the P1500 range??[/QUOTE]


[url]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotels-g317124-Cagayan_de_Oro_Mindanao-Hotels.html[/url]

is a good source. personally free wifi is must for me. i stayed at Dynasty Court in the centre, which is fine (though maybe you can get something a bit cheaper). I also stayed at Kingston Lodge out of town which is very nice and has wifi, a pool and a very friendly atmosphere. Most of the guys staying there have medium /long terms GFs as its away from the action though I guess its just a 100P ride away so thats not such a big deal

Does anyone have experience on visits to Palawan. What are the affordable resorts, most bang for the buck, or must see sites?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Othelo 99]Does anyone have experience on visits to Palawan. What are the affordable resorts, most bang for the buck, or must see sites?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

The main areas of interest are

1 Honda Bay - very impressive island hopping about 25 kms out of the capital Puerto Princesa
2 Sabang - close to the Underground River - a major tourist attraction
3 El Nido - gateway to the Bacuit Archepelgo. Outstanding natural scenery. A couple of very high end resorts buty most people stay in El Nido with plenty of accomodation options 500-3000P only problem is electricity only available 2pm -6.30am

[QUOTE=GregLondon]The main areas of interest are

1 Honda Bay. Very impressive island hopping about 25 kms out of the capital Puerto Princesa

2 Sabang. Close to the Underground River. A major tourist attraction

3 El Nido. Gateway to the Bacuit Archepelgo. Outstanding natural scenery. A couple of very high end resorts buty most people stay in El Nido with plenty of accomodation options 500-3000P only problem is electricity only available 2pm.6. 30am[/QUOTE]I agree with Greg's suggestions, today and always. He really knows his way around P. I. Wherever you go in Palawan, other than Puerto Princessa, be sure to 'bring your own'.

Another option to consider is Port Barton, roughly halfway between Sabang and El Nido. Good beach, interesting islands to explore close by, about half a dozen resort options that are inexpensive. Low key, laid back

Kind of place that is definitely worth a visit, if you are a traveling kind of guy.

[QUOTE=Questor 55]I agree with Greg's suggestions, today and always. He really knows his way around P. I. Wherever you go in Palawan, other than Puerto Princessa, be sure to 'bring your own'.

Kind of place that is definitely worth a visit, if you are a traveling kind of guy.[/QUOTE]
I will be heading to Palawan for some beach and scuba action shortly. I really don't care if I find any girls to play with there. I know I will have plenty of fun before and after my little excursion.

Still I am curious. In all my research, I have read very little about the Puerto Princessa night life other than that there are a couple of bars (good places to get a cold one) and maybe a few chica possibilities. What have you experienced players found in PP?

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]I will be heading to Palawan for some beach and scuba action shortly. I really don't care if I find any girls to play with there. I know I will have plenty of fun before and after my little excursion.

Still I am curious. In all my research, I have read very little about the Puerto Princessa night life other than that there are a couple of bars (good places to get a cold one) and maybe a few chica possibilities. What have you experienced players found in PP?[/QUOTE]

I've also heard that Port Barton is a worthwhile laid back stop but never been myself. If you are travelling in Palawan be aware that there are only ATMs in Puerto Princesa so you need to get cashed up there or accept big FX charges elsewhere.

There are quite a few small scale bars in PP mostly aimed at locals. I'm toold girls are available, but I've always just relied on DIA/Tagged girls in PP.

Hello,

I read that Small Laguna is 5' walking to Sabang and Big Laguna between 10-15'. I don't know if is true.

Someone can tell me if these hotels are girlfriendly and close (walking distance) of Sabang nightlife?

- Mermaid Resort Puerto Galera (Sabang Beach)

- Big Apple Resort (Sabang Beach)

- Sabang Inn (Sabang Beach)

- Portofino Beach Resort Puerto Galera (Small La Laguna Beach)

- Lalaguna Beach Club & Dive Centre (Big La Laguna Beach)




Thanks in advance.

Mastorr

[QUOTE=Mastorr]Hello,

I read that Small Laguna is 5' walking to Sabang and Big Laguna between 10-15'. I don't know if is true.

Someone can tell me if these hotels are girlfriendly and close (walking distance) of Sabang nightlife?

Mastorr[/QUOTE]

Distances are true. Sabang is the nightlife - and to all othere areas there just walk.
Is there any hotel in the Phils NOT girlfriendly???

I was on the beautiful island of Palawan beginning of the year.

There are many resorts for approx 1000peso which were fine for me. Most people come to Palawan just for beach, scuba and to explore the nature. Many European couples to find. I did not meet someone with same hobby like me.

I got very good impression, all is clean and people have good attitude, also. It was really different to all the other places I did see in Philippines, before. All the places I did see are very quiet.

Stayed only one day in PP. Nice city. Had a room close to the airport. Some places to eat around, and places to have a drink. But I did not see real nightlife.

Than to Sabang for the Underground River. Nice beach with couple of resorts, nothing more. 10-11pm all is dead. Most people come just for daytrip to see the River. No bars and girls. Next stop was a beautiful and quiet island on the way to El Nido. Most people here for diving in Bacuit areal. Many resorts and restaurants there. I found 2 bars/disco in El Nido where you can find some girls. Both places were quiet with just some customers.

As I had a girl travel with me, I did not do more research.

It's a natural island and I would recommend to bring your girl with you. As mentioned before, electricity was not available the whole day. Sometimes only from 6pm to 2am. Same with ATM only in PP to find. Credit card not well accepted. You need cash.

Sam

I haven't been to Bohol in a few years. I noticed that Ocean jet now charges 800p.

Can anyone give a review of Panglao hotels? I've stayed at ISIS (not very large) and Bohol Beach club, and was quite happy with both places, but that was a few years ago.

I'd also like to know what the going rate is to hire a boat out to one of the outlying islands -- mostly for snorkeling.

[QUOTE=Sammson]I was on the beautiful island of Palawan beginning of the year.

There are many resorts for approx 1000peso which were fine for me. Most people come to Palawan just for beach, scuba and to explore the nature. Many European couples to find. I did not meet someone with same hobby like me.

I got very good impression, all is clean and people have good attitude, also. It was really different to all the other places I did see in Philippines, before. All the places I did see are very quiet.

Stayed only one day in PP. Nice city. Had a room close to the airport. Some places to eat around, and places to have a drink. But I did not see real nightlife.

Than to Sabang for the Underground River. Nice beach with couple of resorts, nothing more. 10-11pm all is dead. Most people come just for daytrip to see the River. No bars and girls. Next stop was a beautiful and quiet island on the way to El Nido. Most people here for diving in Bacuit areal. Many resorts and restaurants there. I found 2 bars/disco in El Nido where you can find some girls. Both places were quiet with just some customers.

As I had a girl travel with me, I did not do more research.

It's a natural island and I would recommend to bring your girl with you. As mentioned before, electricity was not available the whole day. Sometimes only from 6pm to 2am. Same with ATM only in PP to find. Credit card not well accepted. You need cash.

Sam[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Botaki6]Distances are true. Sabang is the nightlife. And to all othere areas there just walk.

Is there any hotel in the Phils NOT girlfriendly?[/QUOTE]yes there are some that are very hostile to foreign guys bringing girls in. And also they try to charge extra money for everyone that comes in.

A trusted friend was in cebu and he tried to check into a hotel with his steady girlfriend.

The desk clerk said he had to be married other wise they could not be in same room. Was it the desk clerk that took a dislike to him?

I have had some trouble with some hotels making it very difficult. Like a hotel room in manila I check in(amazonia) and I had two different girls come in on short time and not stay over nite.

They hassled me and demanded more money for each girl.

And this is rated as a girl friendly hotel. They also have many independents in their bar downstairs?

What is up with those guys.

Any body with any information on Pagadian? I go there this week.

I am going to see a girl I know but I like to know what else there is in case

We don't get along. Hahahaha.

Also safety concerns?

Close to the Zamboanga areas which is know for kidnaping of foreigners?

[QUOTE=MauiDude]yes there are some that are very hostile to foreign guys bringing girls in. [/QUOTE]Very few. There is the Bethel Hotel in Dumaguete. They even have a sign, "No Joiners." I don't even ask anymore.

[QUOTE=MauiDude]Any body with any information on Pagadian? I go there this week.

I am going to see a girl I know but I like to know what else there is in case

We don't get along. Hahahaha.

Also safety concerns?

Close to the Zamboanga areas which is know for kidnaping of foreigners?[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't be going there mate.
I have spent a lot of time in Western Mindanao (including Pagadian City) in the period pre-2001 but no way will I go there any more. Pagadian City is off the beaten track and too far from Zamboanga City to be safe.
It's up to you though but I was told by my Government rep that they would NOT give me permission to go and that my insurance may not cover me in the event of any "accidents". You should check on that factor before you go.
I have a casual friend there too but she won't let me come there to meet her - we have met twice already (in Cebu and Davao)

[QUOTE=Red Kilt]I wouldn't be going there mate.
I have spent a lot of time in Western Mindanao (including Pagadian City) in the period pre-2001 but no way will I go there any more. Pagadian City is off the beaten track and too far from Zamboanga City to be safe.
It's up to you though but I was told by my Government rep that they would NOT give me permission to go and that my insurance may not cover me in the event of any "accidents".
I have a casual friend there too but she won't let me come there to meet her - we have met twice already (in Cebu and Davao)[/QUOTE]
I don't think this is very sound advice. Pagadian is fine, and you can go without much worry, though it's a pretty boring place without much to do. You should check on that factor before you go.I don't know what the power situation is there at the moment, and you might want to check to see how often the power goes, and for how long.Zamboanga however, has changed drastically in the last three years, and I wouldn't recommend it to the casual tourist. I go there frequently (and again later this week) and I rarely look forward to it.

The problem with advice about Mindanao is that, unless you're on the ground and get constant updates on the shifting security situation (which I am and which I do), the advice is likely to be incorrect.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I don't think this is very sound advice. Pagadian is fine, and you can go without much worry, though it's a pretty boring place without much to do. You should check on that factor before you go.I don't know what the power situation is there at the moment, and you might want to check to see how often the power goes, and for how long.Zamboanga however, has changed drastically in the last three years, and I wouldn't recommend it to the casual tourist. I go there frequently (and again later this week) and I rarely look forward to it.

The problem with advice about Mindanao is that, unless you're on the ground and get constant updates on the shifting security situation (which I am and which I do), the advice is likely to be incorrect.

GE[/QUOTE]

OK GE point taken.
But I suspect you spend time down there because of work and not as a matter of choice.
I cannot see any reason to go there at present unless you need to go.
I spend a lot of time in Mindanao but mainly in Davao and short trips to Cotabato City for work. We have an escort when we travel, and we don't go out of the hotel in Cotabato after we return from the office unless escorted to a function of some sort. I know this is not Pagadian, but I am extrapolating that scene across to ZC and Pagadian City.
I know that ZC currently has power black-outs for 3 or 4 hours almost every evening from around 8-12, but not sure about Pagadian.

Reading your post you seem to be saying that it is still not a good idea to go wandering around, and you make mention of the "shifting security situation".
I still say don't go there unless you are getting up to date information on the current security situation. You may feel quite isolated if you are alone, unless your girl and her family act as bodyguards for you. There is always the risk of random banditry, but I guess you can get that anywhere in the world.

I repeat my earlier warning that my friend in Pagadian is too scared of the situation to have me come visit her in her home town.
You cannot get much more "local" or "on the ground" than that.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt]OK GE point taken.
But I suspect you spend time down there because of work and not as a matter of choice.
I cannot see any reason to go there at present unless you need to go.
I spend a lot of time in Mindanao but mainly in Davao and short trips to Cotabato City for work. We have an escort when we travel, and we don't go out of the hotel in Cotabato after we return from the office unless escorted to a function of some sort. I know this is not Pagadian, but I am extrapolating that scene across to ZC and Pagadian City.
I know that ZC currently has power black-outs for 3 or 4 hours almost every evening from around 8-12, but not sure about Pagadian.

Reading your post you seem to be saying that it is still not a good idea to go wandering around, and you make mention of the "shifting security situation".
I still say don't go there unless you are getting up to date information on the current security situation. You may feel quite isolated if you are alone, unless your girl and her family act as bodyguards for you. There is always the risk of random banditry, but I guess you can get that anywhere in the world.

I repeat my earlier warning that my friend in Pagadian is too scared of the situation to have me come visit her in her home town.
You cannot get much more "local" or "on the ground" than that.[/QUOTE]


The Pagadian - Cotabato road is good and was at least during the election time well protected.
Pagadian itself is somewhat spooky. Heavy security, at one hotel guys with laser pointers on their M-16, plus the local hotel guy with an AK 47.
People were surprised that I walked around alone. No cinema. I was advised NOT to visit the villages on the bay.
Allegedly very high kidnapping risk. So it is a bit on the border. Better to date in Dipolog, Ozamis or Iligan. In Pagadian any foreigner sticks out like a light tower.
I certainly felt uneasy in Pagadian, not much different than in Cotabato.

[QUOTE=Thaifun]The Pagadian - Cotabato road is good and was at least during the election time well protected.
Pagadian itself is somewhat spooky. Heavy security, at one hotel guys with laser pointers on their M-16, plus the local hotel guy with an AK 47.
People were surprised that I walked around alone. No cinema. I was advised NOT to visit the villages on the bay.
Allegedly very high kidnapping risk. So it is a bit on the border. Better to date in Dipolog, Ozamis or Iligan. In Pagadian any foreigner sticks out like a light tower.
I certainly felt uneasy in Pagadian, not much different than in Cotabato.[/QUOTE]
Okay TF, I take your point as well. I guess the bottom line is, if you don't feel comfortable don't go. I agree totally about Cotabato. I never venture outside the hotel at night for any reason, and the hotel itself is pretty much of a hole, so it's not lots of fun being there. ZC hasn't had problems for a while, but there are all kinds of less than desirable types, affiliated with various groups wandering around the town, and they've been known to take pictures of obvious foreigners. So that's another place where I don't go out at night.

Davao and CDO are fine, as most people know, and General Santos is reasonably safe, though I'm not sure why anyone who didn't have to would want to go there either. Iligan had some minor problems a few months ago but seems to have settled down. Again though, the town is a hole, so I cannot understand why anyone would go there.

As for casual visitors to Mindanao, I advise that you stay in and around Davao and/or CDO. That way, you need not have any concerns.

What I meant by "shifting security situation" is simply that the more mobile bad guys--the NPA and the Abu Sayyaf--flit from one location to another within a reasonably large area, so what's safe and secure on one day may not be so secure the next day or the next week.

GE

I will be there very shortly.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Okay TF, I take your point as well. I guess the bottom line is, if you don't feel comfortable don't go. I agree totally about Cotabato. I never venture outside the hotel at night for any reason, and the hotel itself is pretty much of a hole, so it's not lots of fun being there. ZC hasn't had problems for a while, but there are all kinds of less than desirable types, affiliated with various groups wandering around the town, and they've been known to take pictures of obvious foreigners. So that's another place where I don't go out at night.

Davao and CDO are fine, as most people know, and General Santos is reasonably safe, though I'm not sure why anyone who didn't have to would want to go there either. Iligan had some minor problems a few months ago but seems to have settled down. Again though, the town is a hole, so I cannot understand why anyone would go there.

As for casual visitors to Mindanao, I advise that you stay in and around Davao and/or CDO. That way, you need not have any concerns.

What I meant by "shifting security situation" is simply that the more mobile bad guys--the NPA and the Abu Sayyaf--flit from one location to another within a reasonably large area, so what's safe and secure on one day may not be so secure the next day or the next week.

GE[/QUOTE]

I m not easily scared and I do spend my time in places others dont go. In Pagadian the situation was very tense. Great scare of bombs and the main hotel is owned by the governor which makes it THE TARGET. I had all radars on and I "smelled" trouble was brewing. Bad vibrations left and right.

I walked around Cotabato city at night, the night market, i found some hideouts (hidden behind a front shop) etc. The Muslims were very friendly, the others less so. Pagadian was distinctly more tense.
The hookers near the market are very scary (so we're not off topic).

Iligan was relaxed. Lots of students, clubs open till late night, cafe, ktv with girls negotiating before you even enter. A high street full of shops, plenty of food. I had a great time there.

Iligan had bad luck with the raid but Pagadian felt like resident evil around the next corner.

To compare Abu Sayyaf with the NPA or even to name them in one sentence is not correct. I have been in the mountains with activity within a few miles, nervous military, helicopters in the air. All assured me that I m perfectly safe, just I should keep a little distance from those guys in uniform. The support for the NPA in the rural areas made it more than likely that I had a meal or drink with sympathizers or members without even knowing it. A.S. would simply assault or kill you.

The problem on the Zamboanga Peninsula and areas of Cotabato and around is aggravated by the fact that private gangs have joined the lucrative hijacking business. So it is difficult to calculate. Endless nights with guys working for the police and military in rural ktvs etc confirmed this. A couple of beers and we were brothers and I got all the input I might need.

So my advice for Pagadian would be to limit the visit to the essential greetings and then off to the next larger destination. Dipolog is 5 hrs over the mountain - scenic trip.

Pagadian has lots of nice women and hardly any white male skin to meet the demand. Problem is, tight public control. :(

I'll going to baguio soon. I know there is not much action in baguio. Any information about bar or karoke where i can bar fine the girl will be appreciate.

Salamat

I felt okay about being in Pagadian, last year. It's a tough call. Most of us who have been to places like Cotobato City or Pagadian, are seasoned travellers with well-tuned antennae. GoodEnough, Thaifun, and Red Kilt,

All took the time to respond to your question. You should feel flattered.

These guys are all 'heavy hitters'. Advice doesn't come any better than that.

I was In Dipolog and Dapitan a couple of months ago. A DIA contact in Ipil was very anxious for me to visit (That's between Pagadian and Z. C.).

It just didn't feel like a smart move, so, I didn't go. That's the bottom line.

If you are experienced, trust your gut. If not, then trust the guys who know. I'd send her 500 pesos for bus fare to Dipolog or Dapitan.

The Dapitan City Beach Resort on Sunset, is a great place to spend some time with a new girl. Even better, Dakak Resort, is one of the best resorts on Mindanao and it's about 15km. North of Dapitan.

[QUOTE=The Departed]I will be there very shortly.[/QUOTE]Reminds of when I was working in Saudi Arabia many years back.

I took a vacation to Bali and the singer in the band in Sanur Beach hotel, was kind enough to ask me if I wanted pussy.

Yes please I said.

He said did I want large or small girl, tall or short. No I replied, I just want to do a Muslim girl!

[QUOTE=Thaifun]I m not easily scared and I do spend my time in places others dont go. In Pagadian the situation was very tense. Great scare of bombs and the main hotel is owned by the governor which makes it THE TARGET. I had all radars on and I "smelled" trouble was brewing. Bad vibrations left and right.

........... Pagadian has lots of nice women and hardly any white male skin to meet the demand. Problem is, tight public control. :([/QUOTE]

Hmmm looks like we have gone around 360 degrees back to what I said in my original advice post #1142.
Go to Davao or the northern parts of Mindanao (or maybe even Cebu) unless you want to run a risk of something happening in Western and South-western Mindanao

[QUOTE=X Man]I haven't been to Bohol in a few years. I noticed that Ocean jet now charges 800p.

Can anyone give a review of Panglao hotels? I've stayed at ISIS (not very large) and Bohol Beach club, and was quite happy with both places, but that was a few years ago.

I'd also like to know what the going rate is to hire a boat out to one of the outlying islands -- mostly for snorkeling.[/QUOTE]
What better place to get away from the hustle and grime of Cebu City?
Bohol is a great choice!

Last time I visited Panglao island, I was put up at Playa Blanca Beach Resort by a friend who knew the brother and sister owners. Situated on a beautiful piece of property amongst coconut trees, this resort was the first one built on Alona beach.

The accomodations are duplex cottages set back from the beach like idyllic little grass shacks! The huge bed takes up 75% of the room with attached bathroom. No TV, no hot water so only a hardy beach goer/diver would feel at home! No problem for me as I only use the room for the five S's (shit, shower, shave, sleep and last but not least a shag). :D

They had a bar and resto on the beach but it burned down years ago.
An a/c room can be had for 1500 php. Half that price for a fan room.

Hired a banka for a half day trip to Balicasag island for 1500 php. The water was so clear you didn't need tanks as the area is a wildlife preserve so snorkeling is the way to go!

[QUOTE=Malibu21]I'll going to baguio soon. I know there is not much action in baguio. Any information about bar or karoke where i can bar fine the girl will be appreciate.[/QUOTE]
There is plenty of action in Baguio you just have to find it!
In the downtown core, there is a handful of Asian style KTV bars massed together. These are the kind of places where the girls don't strip down completely and just tease you on stage. LD are 300+ and BF 3000+.

But I suggest a KTV located out a ways on Naguilian Road. Forgot the name of the place and would not doubt their name has changed to protect the innocent. Taxi drivers should know the place since it has been at that locale for over seven years. You will probably be the only westerner but maybe see a few Koreans. The beers are cheap so you can hang out and see the show, get something to eat (food is decent) and pick out a girl. They have VIP rooms if that is your thing. Still the BF will be as quoted above.

If you have got some game, there are numerous music clubs and discos off Session Road like Arturo's and Paddy's.

Please file a FR upon your return!

[QUOTE=Mattrick]There is plenty of action in Baguio you just have to find it!
In the downtown core, there is a handful of Asian style KTV bars massed together. These are the kind of places where the girls don't strip down completely and just tease you on stage. LD are 300+ and BF 3000+.

But I suggest a KTV located out a ways on Naguilian Road. Forgot the name of the place and would not doubt their name has changed to protect the innocent. Taxi drivers should know the place since it has been at that locale for over seven years. You will probably be the only westerner but maybe see a few Koreans. The beers are cheap so you can hang out and see the show, get something to eat (food is decent) and pick out a girl. They have VIP rooms if that is your thing. Still the BF will be as quoted above.

If you have got some game, there are numerous music clubs and discos off Session Road like Arturo's and Paddy's.[/QUOTE]Yes the Naguilian road KTV was still there 6 months ago.

Another alternative is to go sit in Burnham Park, during the daytime.There are lots of university ladies there and for a guy with good game theres a lot that you could try. Remember this is the Phils.. girls arent shy and all college kids need some additional pera most of the time.

As the very worst alternaitve, head to La Union... can reach there in an hour on a good day. Lots of resorts there and lots of ladies there willing to enjoy beachtime with you.

[QUOTE=Questor 55]

I was In Dipolog and Dapitan a couple of months ago. A DIA contact in Ipil was very anxious for me to visit (That's between Pagadian and Z. C.).

It just didn't feel like a smart move, so, I didn't go. That's the bottom line.

If you are experienced, trust your gut. If not, then trust the guys who know. I'd send her 500 pesos for bus fare to Dipolog or Dapitan.

The Dapitan City Beach Resort on Sunset, is a great place to spend some time with a new girl. Even better, Dakak Resort, is one of the best resorts on Mindanao and it's about 15km. North of Dapitan.[/QUOTE]

I was in the area a few months ago and thought about going to Zamboanga. In Pagadian I had talked to the bus drivers about schedules etc (it is basically a 24 hrs service). But then I spoke with a security guy on one bus, M-16 with him, lots of extra ammo. Very low key, going to his post. He said it is 95%+ safe but they never know when they hit and they have their informants.

Van drivers might be a better option. Faster, not many stops, not many people getting off before the destination is reached. Ipil had a horrible massacre some years back.
In general, the combination of forest, mountains, and Muslim population majority make a bad combination on Mindanao. In Cotabato city the houses might have replaced the trees and give cover.

Dipolog and the surrounding area is very nice and safe, good sea food at ridiculous prices. Lots of clubs in Dipolog and ladies to attend to your needs if the date does not work out.

Pagadian has some nice hotels, dont go to the governor's hotel. There is a new 'business' hotel nearby in a side street (on your right hand side when you drive down the hill from the bus station. Prices are OK and better than in the other spots.

[QUOTE=Mattrick]What better place to get away from the hustle and grime of Cebu City?

Bohol is a great choice!

Last time I visited Panglao island, I was put up at Playa Blanca Beach Resort by a friend who knew the brother and sister owners. Situated on a beautiful piece of property amongst coconut trees, this resort was the first one built on Alona beach.

The accomodations are duplex cottages set back from the beach like idyllic little grass shacks! The huge bed takes up 75% of the room with attached bathroom. No TV, no hot water so only a hardy beach goer/diver would feel at home! No problem for me as I only use the room for the five S's (shit, shower, shave, sleep and last but not least a shag). :D

They had a bar and resto on the beach but it burned down years ago.

An a/c room can be had for 1500 php. Half that price for a fan room.

Hired a banka for a half day trip to Balicasag island for 1500 php. The water was so clear you didn't need tanks as the area is a wildlife preserve so snorkeling is the way to go![/QUOTE]Hey Mantrik,

Where did you get the girl?

Is there any available in Bohol?

[QUOTE=Mattrick]There is plenty of action in Baguio you just have to find it!
In the downtown core, there is a handful of Asian style KTV bars massed together. These are the kind of places where the girls don't strip down completely and just tease you on stage. LD are 300+ and BF 3000+.

If you have got some game, there are numerous music clubs and discos off Session Road like Arturo's and Paddy's.

Please file a FR upon your return![/QUOTE]Thanks for the info.

I'll bring my own girl there, but my friends might want to try some FL university student there. Will go there end of the year, sure will post some Fr when back.

[QUOTE=Malibu21]Thanks for the info.

I'll bring my own girl there, but my friends might want to try some FL university student there. Will go there end of the year, sure will post some Fr when back.[/QUOTE]
You are most welcome!
Additionally, if your friends are in search of, SM mall is the centerpiece of the city with many posibilities for meeting students and such!

[QUOTE=Nolz7]Where did you get the girl?

Is there any available in Bohol?[/QUOTE]
B.Y.O.B. from Cebu!
Hard to find unless you have time to search them out.
But who knows, you might get lucky!

[QUOTE=Nolz7]Hey Mantrik,

Where did you get the girl?

Is there any available in Bohol?[/QUOTE]When I went to Bohol in December, we went on a tour of the island. After the tour, we asked our driver/tour guide if he would take us to some places later in the evening where we could get some girls. At the first bar he took us, there was only 3 girls. I don't remember the name of that place, but it was a hole in the wall. We had a few drinks and left.

The next bar he took us was Solid Gold KTV. Solid Gold is one of those places where you pick a girl from a "fish bowl" window and they come sit with you. There were plenty of girls just waiting in the room. I picked a girl and had a few drinks with her and later ended up barfining her. There are girls available in Bohol.

I was in Bohol a year or so ago. I was with my gf at the time but there were a few times I had been out in the mall, eating, what not and I got many looks. Some girls were so aggresive to ask me if I were travelling alone.

I mean some of these girls would easily be considered 10 here in the US. There, as thurout, the Philippines. They consider themselves regular at best and unattractive and undesirable at worst.

Enjoy. This is a wonderfull island to explore. Getting out to some of the remotest areas you will find some of the worlds best beaches. In fact if you are on the south part of the island, you can actually see mindanao.

Best of travels.

[quote=betong]the bars in bauang (ba-wahng) are mostly attached to the beach resorts and attract mainly westerners. the style is similar to the smaller bars in barrio barretto, as are quality and price. i've found about half a dozen places but there might be others rep001tered around.

the poro point bars line the highway a couple km north of bauang and they have the unmistakable look of an old r&r area (wallace air station was just up the road). clientele these days is mostly filipino and they (and the girls) can get rowdy, but people are friendly and unless you get drunk and obnoxious you're unlikely to have any trouble. maybe a couple dozen bars in total, mostly very small.

nothing to get excited about if you've just come from ac or even subic, but barely an hour's drive from baguio . . . .[/quote]i made a report about this area a little while back. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=991377&postcount=1041[/url]

i wonder how things are there these days.

I've just returned to Cebu from a couple of months on Palawan. It's not so easy to find "open minded" girls in such areas, but I met 3 nice ones (20, 25, 29) during my time there. Like most girls in Phils their ultimate aim is to get married, but I think they are open to shorter term arrangements to help with their finances etc if that's not what you are looking for. The 20 yr old is at college, petite and very slim, the 25 year old is tall, good figure and good fun but deaf and dumb (if you wish to meet you may wish to bring along one of the other girls - they are all friends). the final one is 29, graduate more curvy but very womanly figure. All are honest and trustworthy. PM if you are interested in contact details, let me know a bit about you eg age , nationality, race , what you are looking for so i can tip them off that someone may get in contact.

GregLondon

Anyone know of bungalows on or very close to (view) of beach and not noisey with traffic etc. For rent?

I want internet and 5-10 min. Taxi to action.

[QUOTE=Vandaddio]Anyone know of bungalows on or very close to (view) of beach and not noisey with traffic etc. For rent?

I want internet and 5-10 min. Taxi to action.[/QUOTE]Everything is close to the beach in the PI, if you are thinking of rental in terms of long term like living in the PI then what you are going to end up with (Bungalow) is something you are not going to want to stay in for long and in an area you are not going to be comfortable in.

You are also going to have to get away from the city, like WAAAYYYYY out.

You can check out places like San Fernando, Barili near Moalboal in Cebu

DO NOT MAKE ANY ARRANGEMENTS OVER THE INTERNET BEFORE HAND and DO NOT give a Filipino OR A FOREIGNER money to "hold" before you get there, see the place up front.

Every foreigner I ever met (a few) who did this was sorely disappointed when he came to view the place it was not as portayed, a yard full of crowing chicken next door, nosiey kids playing outside the window or a pig trough up wind

If you as a foreigner rent something (most places are one year lease, six

Months maybe if you are lucky) it has to meet certain requirements. Security first and foremost.

Running water and a reasonable working toilet second, electricity capable of handling air cond, a computer at the same time and a micro wave/refridge

TV VCR. MANY PLACES DO NOT. I bring a portable laptop computer that can handle WIFI and get a local broadband account.

Your strategy should be, come here, look around, but stay in a cheaper hotel until you get oriented.

'Course you can find a cute little "tour guide" to help out too

Spamhog

Thanks Hog for your info,

I think I would not want a independent bungalow but one that is in a resort with infrastructure like pool, bar, beach, resturant, wi-fi, but not attached to a larger building. Thailand has many places with little 1 bedroom, living room with mini kitchen, refridgerator for drinks snacks etc.

Cable or sat t/v for football private patio?

[QUOTE=Vandaddio]Thanks Hog for your info,

I think I would not want a independent bungalow but one that is in a resort with infrastructure like pool, bar, beach, resturant, wi-fi, but not attached to a larger building. Thailand has many places with little 1 bedroom, living room with mini kitchen, refridgerator for drinks snacks etc.

Cable or sat t/v for football private patio?[/QUOTE]



In Cebu you could check out the various resorts in Lapu Lapu. If you go out of Cebu into the province of Cebu your selections in places like Bantayan island, Moalboal will be endless, BUT the catch is there is very little there in support such as TV, transportation (some guy with a motorbike & side car) no cable phones don't work etc and the available babe selection is rather limited to none. usually one takes their own someone they met in cebu city aka: BYOB.

Spamhog

A bit over an hour North of the airport in the hotel van (free), Allegre has plush, separate bungalows (2 unites to a building and so far from reception you take a golf cart!). The rooms are 5 start with all the modern amenities. The resort also has the best beach on Cebu Island which is at bottom of a cliff and access strictly for guests only (pic below). I'm sure a few girls could be rounded up in town, but if you want big neon lit clubs you are talking a full hour back to Mandaue.

On Anninuan beach beach, just West of White beach, Tamaraw Beach Hotel has some bunaglows on the beach but unlikely the wifi works there (you must go by reception or in restaurant).

Hope you have been well.

Guys the Spam Hog is one of the treasures of ISG and the resident expert on Cebu. I meant to add this to my post about Alegre Resort but hit post too soon, with Jackson's indulgence, I do want to send a shout out to Spam Hog.

Is Alegre on Mactan, or Cebu itself? Thanks and good to see you here.

Thanks for that info. Was the pic the hotel on Cebu or down near White beach?

It looks fabulous. But I need or have to have wifi for my work, I want to work in my air con bungalow or on my private patio.

[QUOTE=Surfer]Hope you have been well.

Guys the Spam Hog is one of the treasures of ISG and the resident expert on Cebu. I meant to add this to my post about Alegre Resort but hit post too soon, with Jackson's indulgence, I do want to send a shout out to Spam Hog.[/QUOTE]



Surfer, when ya gonna go down an do Tandang during "habagat?????
They been waiting for ya.

Spamhog

Hey Surf, hows it goin? Nice to see you back.

Surf there's been a few rumors goin around that you got yourself hitched to a flip, for the second time, apparently. And also that she was a dancer in AC before you guys tied the knot. Reason I ask is that a guy I know in S California married a flip thinking that she was a regular girl, and now he finds out that she's got Hep B and that her sister worked in AC. So now he's worried. Big age difference too which adds fuel. Right now, he's torn over whether to send her back to the PI or what to do. He treated her real good too but she's on the single web sites chatting and stuff. Cheating little ho. I hope you don't have the same situation.

[QUOTE=Dashing Don] ... and now he finds out that she's got Hep B and ... he's torn over ... what to do. [/QUOTE]

Get a Hep B shot and keep on riding her.

Cheaper than divorce American style. :-D

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Dashing Don]a guy I know in S California married a flip thinking that she was a regular girl, and now he finds out that she's got Hep B.[/QUOTE]
Gee he should ask for his money back from that clinic in Manila. They test for all that shit before you get the visa (or is he for real?). ONE smart thing about a controlled immigration policy, an decent attempt to prevent the spread of communicable disease.

[QUOTE=Jambo]Gee he should ask for his money back from that clinic in Manila. They test for all that shit before you get the visa (or is he for real?). ONE smart thing about a controlled immigration policy, an decent attempt to prevent the spread of communicable disease.[/QUOTE]

Calling Bullshit on this one.

Personally know you cannot get a visa to the US if you have Hep A/B or HIV+. I should know, I used to do the Visa application tests. Absolutely no way around the test. At least none that I know of that is.

I guess you could have been negative when you applied and then positive later when you joined the USA. That is possible. The time between infection and the appearance of the symptoms, (the incubation period), is between two and six weeks and the average incubation period is 28 days. But that is HIGHLY unlikely as it takes well over six weeks to get the Visa application processed.

I guess a bribe is also possible, but that would go down at the US consulate in Manila, and those dudes are not into that...that would be waaaaaayyy too much money for a pinay.

[QUOTE=Carmex]Calling Bullshit on this one.

Personally know you cannot get a visa to the US if you have Hep A/B or HIV+. I should know, I used to do the Visa application tests. Absolutely no way around the test. At least none that I know of that is.[/QUOTE]I know clinics in Manila, having processed paperwork for employing filipiino staff in Singapore, where Hep and HIV is done within 15 minutes - I thought it takes more time to print the report.

BTW, here, we don't bother, because upon arrival, Singapore immigration does put them through another round of medical at a Singapore Clinic, and does not give two hoots about the Filipino testing.

[QUOTE=Econo Tech]I know clinics in Manila, having processed paperwork for employing filipiino staff in Singapore, where Hep and HIV is done within 15 minutes - I thought it takes more time to print the report.

BTW, here, we don't bother, because upon arrival, Singapore immigration does put them through another round of medical at a Singapore Clinic, and does not give two hoots about the Filipino testing.[/QUOTE]

Well, I thought I was pretty sure about my statement (otherwise I wouldn't have made it), but after the responses I did some research. So here it is from the pages of the US Consulate in Manila:

The Medical Examination

All visa applicants, regardless of age, need to complete a medical examination at the St. Luke’s Medical Center Extension Clinic (SLMCEC) before the visa interview. Applicants are advised to have their medical examinations done at least one week before their interview appointment at the U.S. Embassy in Manila.

SLMCEC is located at 1177 J. Bocobo Street, Ermita, Manila. It is best to arrive for your medical examination between 6:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. Applicants are served on a first come first served basis, but the order of release of the medical reports will depend on the complexity of the results of the medical examination.

What this means to me is: there is only one place you can get the medical exam, and bribing them would be close to impossible. I do suppose that with the incubation period you could get away with it (Hep A and HIV+), but your average pinay cannot just go to any witchdoctor and get a signed piece of paper saying she is good to go.

The exam also costs $213 USD, which is a shit load of money for a pinay. That being said, Philippines is Philippines and I guess anything is possible.

As an aside, in some other countries (Thailand being one), the medical exam is done at the US Embassy Clinic, or at least it used to be. No room for error there.

[QUOTE=Carmex]Well, I thought I was pretty sure about my statement (otherwise I wouldn't have made it), but after the responses I did some research. So here it is from the pages of the US Consulate in Manila:[/QUOTE]Well, I was quoting in the context of employing to Singapore. Whereas the medical requirement is mandatory by Philippines OFW people. Even though they know the medical is not accepted in Singapore.

Another form of money making scam by the OFW people to feed the doctors pocket I guess. And some others to make a commission in referrals.

As for US Embassy, if you say so. Yes, quite possible that they have tightened up the process. St Lukes is respected and no doctor worth their salt will sign fake papers there.

That is one of the reason we make the "suspected candidates" (like those who seem abnormally weak, or perpetual running nose. Etc) to take their medical in St Lukes, even though the all mighty OFW Dept insists that another medical has to be done through their quack doctors.

Welcome to Government sponsored robbery.

Hepatitis B is prevalent in the Philippines, with studies showing 10-15% of the population is infected. While it can be transmitted sexually, it is also commonly transmitted during childbirth to the newborn. It's not an indication of being a bargirl; one large study showed that prevalence among bargirls is no higher than the general population.

Hepatitis is NOT a bar for admissability into the US:

[url]http://uscis.gov/graphics/Medical_Exam.htm#inad[/url]

What are “medical grounds of inadmissibility”?
“Medical grounds of inadmissibility” is a term used when an applicant has a health condition which is a public health concern to the United States. Under the U.S. immigration laws, the medical grounds of inadmissibility are divided into four categories:

* communicable disease of public health significance;
* lack of required vaccinations (for immigrant visa applicants only);
* physical or mental disorders with harmful behavior; and
* drug abuse/drug addiction.

What is a communicable disease of public health significance?
A “communicable disease of public health significance” is defined in the HHS regulations that cover the required medical exam for immigration purposes and includes the following 9 infectious medical conditions:

* severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS)
* tuberculosis (TB)
* leprosy
* human immunodeficiency virus (HIV/AIDS)
* syphilis (infectious state)
* chancroid (STD, similar to syphilis and herpes)
* gonorrhea
* granuloma inguinale (STD, donovanosis)
* lymphogranuloma (STD, chlamydia)

Jesus!

I stand corrected! To further complicate the matter, it seems you can now enter being HIV+ also. Read on from the Dept. of Homeland Security:

On or after Jan. 4, 2010, when HIV is no longer a medical ground of inadmissibility, all cases that were held in abeyance because of HIV infection will be adjudicated according to the new law. Furthermore, HIV infection will no longer be a medical ground of inadmissibility for any application for immigration benefits pending on or after Jan. 4, 2010.

So, my apologies to all. My data was from 2008 when I conducted the testing. I didn't know about the changes. So, I guess anyone can get in now. Fuck me!

All those other 9 categories can be rendered non infectious or cleared up with medicine. Except HIV, Herpes, or TB. Wear a N95 face mask and cover your dick boys!

I wanted to take this thread to a new direction since I realize it has gotten off track of late. No doubt, it was at my writing, but my original purpose was to write a FR of my latest trip to Sabang, where I spent 19 days during the month of July.

I did a bit of research from the thread at first, and unfortunately, I have to report not much has changed. I can offer all the pros and cons.

Getting There:

I took the bus from City State Tower Hotel in Ermita. The bus leaves at 8 am and after arriving in Batangas you are lead to the connecting ferry by a Sikat agent. The bus takes about 3 hours and the boat about 1.5 hours. Cost was 700 peso one way, 1400 round trip open ticket. Don't Book a hotel from the ferry terminal in Batangas as you will get a better deal when you get there in Sabang. I cannot comment about White Beach though. And it was low season.

Where to Stay:

I stayed at the Seashore Resort. I rented a little bungalow for 1000 peso a night. Little kitchen and porch with ocean view (second floor). In the high season everything is double or triple. You can stay at different resorts in Sabang for the same price that have pools but smaller rooms and better restaurants, just do some checking before you commit. I also had to pay in cash as their credit card machine was "broken". (uh-huh)

This is a huge pain in the ass as there is no cash machine in Sabang. You can rent a little scooter guy to take you into Puerto Galera for 100 peso, which is the nearest ATM which will allow you to take out 10,000 peso at one time. Or, you can go to the money changer in Sabang, and use your credit card to get money and they will charge you 6% interest (no thank you MF!).

Also, I would not recommend Big Laguna or Little Laguna as I went to some BG houses over there and it was a pain in the ass to walk along the beach at night after a few drinks to get there. Only took a few minutes but still, it was a pain in the ass. (IMHO)

Sabang has 6 gogo bars and Sunset disco is closed and up for sale. A few massage parlors are available during the day, and you can party all night at Venus disco (Live band sometimes on the weekends) or at Big Apple's.

Mostly I hung out at Broadway because it has a bar on the bottom floor, a disco (girly bar on the second floor), and a gym (open during the day) on the third floor. It was a nice way to start the night.

I barfined from all the bars and its 1000 peso to the bar and 1000 peso to the girl in the morning, non negotosh as far as I know. For me, that always included two pops. I did this for 10 days straight, but on days 11 -14 some girls stayed late and went and got food and came back to the room to cook breakfast and hang out and watch TV. Days 14-19 I fell in "Like" and kept the same girl and rented a motorbike for 600 peso and went to the falls, Calapan, White Beach for the day, etc... you know did the BF/GF thing. She even went with me all the way to Manila and saw me to Airport blah, blah, blah.

I thought, man, this chick is really working hard for a tip! I told her only 2000 per day and thats it, but when in Manila she asked for 15,000 peso! I still gave her 2000 per day. But she got an extra 1000 and dinner in Manila, so whatever. Still, great GFE from all the girls.

I did run out of steam/ stamina on day 10 though and thought if I do ever come back to Sabang I would need to go on some kind of work out/ hard core fitness routine for a few months before hand. I guess if I was still in my 20's I could do it, but not anymore. :(.

Still, Mindoro was beautiful and relaxing, with the waterfalls and diving and beaches.

Speaking of the beaches, White Beach was a good day trip, but not for mongering. Too many tourist and no go go bars. They had one bar with a Ladyboy show that was entertaining, but that was it for nightlife, and you only need to see that once. As for pussy, forget it unless you want Korean tourist pussy during the day.

And speaking of Korean, I would say the entire place is about 80% Korean. Maybe 10% Japanese, and 10% European and Australian. I was the only American there. The pinay freaked out when I said I was American. "What are you doing here?" They asked. I would tell them that I was there for the diving, but I actually never did any diving.

Mostly I would be out all night, come home when the sun came up, eat some breakfast early morning or fuck and then eat, and sleep all day and do it again the next night. I never really got into the diving thing, but that is what most people did there.

So, I would say, with well over 50 dive sites, ranging from open water 1 to advanced/master diver, if you are a diver and like warm water and phils pussy with no hassle barfine, then Sabang is a good spot to be.

I can also attest to the Korean sweep. Those dudes are out in the bars by 6pm and got the hot chicks by 8pm and back in the rooms fucking by 9. I would be just going out and these guys would be coming back to the resorts in packs, that's how they travel, each with a hottie. I cannot imagine what high season would be like. Probably more competitive.

As another aside, during high season, there are two floating bars anchored out in the bay. They were not there when I was there as I guess they cannot keep up with the tides or storms, but during high season, with live bands my guess is that would be quite a party.

A group of Aussie chicks were at Broadway every night (staying at Big Apple resort). Some nice blonds in that group. They had been on holiday for a month or so. Literally no one was giving them any attention, and it seemed like anyone could take them home. My thought was they probably were not used that! Young hot blonds and everyone wanted Filipina!

Weather was good the entire time I was there, and the typhoon in Luzon missed us, but it rained every night. Still was sunny every day. If anyone wants photos I can post. Let me know.

Sabang is no AC, but is there really anyplace like AC?

Hey great post.

Funny about the blonde girls - lol

Please post photos of your whole trip in the photo section. Love to see what the beaches and town looks like. And the filipinas too of course.

[QUOTE=Carmex]A group of Aussie chicks were at Broadway every night (staying at Big Apple resort). Some nice blonds in that group. They had been on holiday for a month or so. Literally no one was giving them any attention, and it seemed like anyone could take them home. My thought was they probably were not used that! Young hot blonds and everyone wanted Filipina!

Weather was good the entire time I was there, and the typhoon in Luzon missed us, but it rained every night. Still was sunny every day. If anyone wants photos I can post. Let me know.

Sabang is no AC, but is there really anyplace like AC?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Carmex]I took the bus from City State Tower Hotel in Ermita. The bus leaves at 8 am and after arriving in Batangas you are lead to the connecting ferry by a Sikat agent. The bus takes about 3 hours and the boat about 1.5 hours. Cost was 700 peso one way, 1400 round trip open ticket. Don't Book a hotel from the ferry terminal in Batangas as you will get a better deal when you get there in Sabang. I cannot comment about White Beach though. And it was low season.[/QUOTE]My first time there, I got screwed 'buying' a hotel before seeing it. Not more.

[QUOTE=Carmex]

Also, I would not recommend Big Laguna or Little Laguna as I went to some BG houses over there and it was a pain in the ass to walk along the beach at night after a few drinks to get there. Only took a few minutes but still, it was a pain in the ass. (IMHO)[/QUOTE]You surivived: I had the fun of walking on a high tide, all the way from Portofina to The Big Apple. Damn. (PS: Portofina has a nice American Manager. Who goes the extra step to make sure you get good food. And more than makes you homely. I was there during last thanksgiving weekend. And he made it special for me and my gf adding a turkey slice on house)

Good one mate, taking time to compose the whole stuff.

PG has it's place, but as you say, if you are looking for girls. AC it is.

PG is for relaxing and enjoying some dives.

I'm in PG now and the previous posts are still 100% correct.

It's very quiet and if you don't have your girlie chosen by 9PM all the good ones will be gone.

There is no Short Time in PG also so one they are gone they ain't coming back.

That being said the girls are great with plenty of lookers and all have fun attitudes.

One thing though, do any of the previous posters know where to get some lube? Plenty of rubbers available but can't find anything to assit the slip and slide.

Tried in SM in Batangas and none there either.

[QUOTE=Goferring]

One thing though, do any of the previous posters know where to get some lube? Plenty of rubbers available but can't find anything to assit the slip and slide.

[/QUOTE]

Hmm, spit not working? Just kidding. The closest Pharmacy is in Calapan that I know. Its a one hour Jeepney ride. The scenery is really beautiful along the way. Or, if you know how to ride a motorcycle, you could rent a big bike for 600 peso (they start at 800 peso), and make a day trip of it by stopping at the falls (water cold as shit), stopping at the local eatery, and taking your new found "like" shopping in Calapan as I did.

She will of course love you for it, and I just gave her 500 peso and said meet me when your finished shopping. I needed some meds and that was a nice day trip and break from Sabang.

Or just ask one of the girls where to get some lube, they of all people should know.

I have read the archives of this thread and picked up some good info since I am will be visiting some of the cities around Cebu next trip and I am looking for some GF friendly hotels that are well located near shopping and some restaurants. I do not have to stay in the best hotel in town but often I know that the selection in some of these cities will be limited. Also any info on nightlife such as gogo bars or freelance hotspots and any other general tips would be very useful.

[b]OZAMIZ
CDO
BUTUAN CITY
SURIGAO CITY
TACLOBAN CITY
BACOLOD CITY[/B]

I wanted to fly to Ozamiz from Cebu then take a bus to CDO then on to Butuan City and finally end up in Surigao City spending a few days in each city to meet some of my chatmates who have been bugging me to go visit them. Has anyone taken a bus to and or from these cities and can give me advice about schedules, prefered bus lines, price, safety and what to look out for. Would you advise me to buy two seats so I can keep on eye on my bag?

I also was interested in taking a ferry from Surigao City over to Tacloban City, does anyone know if this is possible?

Any info on these cities would be a huge help.
Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Goferring]One thing though, do any of the previous posters know where to get some lube? Plenty of rubbers available but can't find anything to assit the slip and slide.

Tried in SM in Batangas and none there either.[/QUOTE]Mercury or another drugstore, or a pharmacy. There should be one in Puerto Galera town. Going all the way to Calapan just for that would be a really long ride.

[QUOTE=Denom]Mercury or another drugstore, or a pharmacy. There should be one in Puerto Galera town. Going all the way to Calapan just for that would be a really long ride.[/QUOTE]

Yea, agreed. But the point was to make a day trip of it, and see the falls and the other beautiful parts of Mindoro, plus some shopping for the girl of choice.

yada, yada, yada, If you just want lube, ask the girls, they know where to get it.

[QUOTE=Carmex]Yea, agreed. But the point was to make a day trip of it, and see the falls and the other beautiful parts of Mindoro, plus some shopping for the girl of choice.[/QUOTE]Yes - an interesting side trip. Incidently, there used to be sex offerings on private houses on the way to Calapan in the past, especially around the water fall. Sadly, everything has been "cleaned up" now. Still an interesting trip, and the road has been improved too whereas before it was really rocky. A few girls to be found in Calapan but not as many as in Sabang. There's a couple of clubs, plus the plaza in the evening and the university (try to get a motorcycle driver to ask the university guards. Some students need to round up their fee and the guards may know them). You could take the Supercat back to Batangas too so no need to come all the way back, except if you rented a bike.

The clock is getting closer for my early sept, 3 month visit.

If I can find a nice spot around this area it may take 1/2 my visit time.

I have been doing alot of research to find my hotel resort bungalow style, which has to have wi-fi.

What baffles me is the huge change in price when wifi is a must.

Many resort/hotels have internet but only in lobby, I must have it at my room and not at a huge hourly rate.

Seems White Beach area has the better higher end places that are fully loaded?

Any prices or info appreciated.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88]I have read the archives of this thread and picked up some good info since I am will be visiting some of the cities around Cebu next trip and I am looking for some GF friendly hotels that are well located near shopping and some restaurants. I do not have to stay in the best hotel in town but often I know that the selection in some of these cities will be limited. Also any info on nightlife such as gogo bars or freelance hotspots and any other general tips would be very useful.

[b]OZAMIZ
CDO
BUTUAN CITY
SURIGAO CITY
TACLOBAN CITY
BACOLOD CITY[/B]

I wanted to fly to Ozamiz from Cebu then take a bus to CDO then on to Butuan City and finally end up in Surigao City spending a few days in each city to meet some of my chatmates who have been bugging me to go visit them. Has anyone taken a bus to and or from these cities and can give me advice about schedules, prefered bus lines, price, safety and what to look out for. Would you advise me to buy two seats so I can keep on eye on my bag?

I also was interested in taking a ferry from Surigao City over to Tacloban City, does anyone know if this is possible?

Any info on these cities would be a huge help.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

i lie Kingston Lodge in CDO (or about 5kms out of town.) Its Expat owned well managed very monger freindly good prices with a pool and their restauant is fine. But as its out of town its best if you have a medium ternm who you stay with rather than girls comming and going taxi to town is about 90P i think

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88]I also was interested in taking a ferry from Surigao City over to Tacloban City, does anyone know if this is possible?[/QUOTE]Yes, easy, but I don't think the ferry will go all the way to Tacloban. From Surigao you can cross to the other side then take the bus. You can go up to Tacloban by bus from the right side of the island or the left. I did the right side, a friend of mine did the left. Same same. Just don't go too late or you may be stranded as the last bus is early. Also don't believe the time schedule of the ferry the tourism office (on Surigao plaza) gives you. The time table at the port is the one the boats follow.

No need to reserve two places on the bus. It isn't that dangerous. Traveling around 5 pm is nice, because the sunset light makes the countryside even more beautiful and greener than they already are.

Gentlemen,

Is there any place in CDO where I can buy some simple sex toys?

Gangles

Further to the comments about Koreans in PG, it is the same in Boracay.

If you like a drink in Cocomango's, be prepared. The Korean hordes have occupied all of the best lounges by early evening.

Large numbers of them, and they move in packs.

G

All,

Many thanks for your comments and advice but unfortunately several girls and long term residents have confirmed that there is no lube nor toys available in PG. The girls with their own lube have had it donated by past customers before leaving.

BTW - several girls expressed severe disappointment that they could not get vibrators locally - maybe a novel way to impress a GFE on the next visit..!!

Enjoy

[QUOTE=Gangles]Further to the comments about Koreans in PG, it is the same in Boracay.

If you like a drink in Cocomango's, be prepared. The Korean hordes have occupied all of the best lounges by early evening.

Large numbers of them, and they move in packs.

G[/QUOTE]Thats the way Japanese/Koreans holiday. Accept it.

AV

[QUOTE=Gangles]Is there any place in CDO where I can buy some simple sex toys? [/QUOTE]
Good God man, you ventured into Mindanao improperly equipped?

alegre is on cebu's west coast just over an hour north of mactan. alegre beach is the place pictured in my prior post. tamaraw beach hotel (on anninuan beach just west of white beach, mindoro) is pictured here.

wifi is a luxury in the bundok and only upscale places will have it (and even then speed will be slow, connection unreliable). consider investing $60 or so in a smartbro wireless modem.

rt: the reason i and many pi experts rarely post in this forum is jackson's failure to prevent a couple adolescents with multiple handles (dashing don being the worst offender) from repeatedly initiating flame wars. while a few good things about the board have stayed the same over the years, like spam hog, the bad still outweighs the good imho as jackson is still letting dd run amok so this will be my last post here until jackson takes action by permanently deleting dd.

Next beach over the hill from White Beach-10 minute walk along the beach which is how I found the place being so disgusted with the overdevelopment at White Beach. Only these two hotels on Anninuan Beach. Tamaraaw is about 1500 while Anninuan is close to double that.

Well instead of Staying in nice hotel in Makati close to the action, I am being put up in hotel in Filivest Corp City - Alabang.
Someone PLEASE tell me that there is some action to be had there....how about some pick-up at a mall? Any ideas....this really stinks so any information would definitely be appreciated

Pirata.com has a hack for smartbro.

Here’s a simple hack that you will be able to use the SmartBro Service even if they had already cut-off your subscription.

Softwares:
Softperfect Research Network Scanner (Free)
Gentle MAC Pro 4.0

Steps:
When you try to browse the internet you’ll be redirected to the SmartBro Portal right?
1. Run the NETSCAN .
2. Go to Options Menu then click on Program Options of NETSCAN.. shortcut ctrl-o.
3. Click Additional tab then check the Resolve MAC Addresses. click OK.
4. On the IP Range enter 192.168.100.1 TO 192.168.224.254 then click Start Scanning
5. It will display all the live IP addresses.
6. Run the MAC Address Changer.
7. Select any live IP Address that was detected by NETSCAN.
8. Use the MAC Address Changer to change your MAC address using the one you selected in NETSCAN.
9. Change your ip address using the corresponding IP address of the MAC address you selected in NETSCAN.
10. Now disable your network adapter then enable it back.
11. Try to browse the internet.

And Tweak your Smartbro Connection.

[QUOTE=Firebird]Well instead of Staying in nice hotel in Makati close to the action, I am being put up in hotel in Filivest Corp City - Alabang.
Someone PLEASE tell me that there is some action to be had there....how about some pick-up at a mall? Any ideas....this really stinks so any information would definitely be appreciated[/QUOTE]

You are definitely shafted FB.
No action down that way at all unless you manage to call in a local massage that will provide "extra or even full service". Maybe the concierge of your hotel can assist?
If you need to get out, it will take you between 45 - 60 mins at off peak times to travel up to Makati.

[QUOTE=Firebird]Well instead of Staying in nice hotel in Makati close to the action, I am being put up in hotel in Filivest Corp City. Alabang.

Someone PLEASE tell me that there is some action to be had there. How about some pick-up at a mall? Any ideas. This really stinks so any information would definitely be appreciated[/QUOTE]That's a ritzyish area in the Philippines, there aren't any bars like in Manila Quezon and Makati. But it's the Philippines and there are millions of available women there. The last time I was there I was looking at buying a house in a new Italian themed subdivision. I bought a condo in the Fort instead. Anyway, I have always had the best luck talking with department store ladies. They are usually more educated, speak better english and still love to date. Try the mall there, its nice and start doing some talking. You'll find someone for sure. If not its not a long drive at night after the traffic dies off to head back into makati. BTW if you are out one night, try the Embassy Superclub in Fort Bonifacio if you haven't already been there. Its crazy and always full of hot hot hot chicks.

The former M/V Schooner is now operating as 'Cabin's Bar' after being shut down after a raid late last year. Is it still a girlie bar or just a normal bar/club now?

[QUOTE=Vandaddio]Pirata.com has a hack for smartbro.

Here’s a simple hack that you will be able to use the SmartBro Service even if they had already cut-off your subscription.

Softwares:
Softperfect Research Network Scanner (Free)
Gentle MAC Pro 4.0

Steps:
When you try to browse the internet you’ll be redirected to the SmartBro Portal right?
1. Run the NETSCAN .
2. Go to Options Menu then click on Program Options of NETSCAN.. shortcut ctrl-o.
3. Click Additional tab then check the Resolve MAC Addresses. click OK.
4. On the IP Range enter 192.168.100.1 TO 192.168.224.254 then click Start Scanning
5. It will display all the live IP addresses.
6. Run the MAC Address Changer.
7. Select any live IP Address that was detected by NETSCAN.
8. Use the MAC Address Changer to change your MAC address using the one you selected in NETSCAN.
9. Change your ip address using the corresponding IP address of the MAC address you selected in NETSCAN.
10. Now disable your network adapter then enable it back.
11. Try to browse the internet.

And Tweak your Smartbro Connection.[/QUOTE]
Is this Other Areas?

I guess I am not very computer-literate Vandaddio. I got as far as "softwares" in following this "simple hack".

[QUOTE=KongKing]Is this Other Areas?

I guess I am not very computer-literate Vandaddio. I got as far as "softwares" in following this "simple hack".[/QUOTE]Yes, you are not very bright, and if you read this thread you would see this post was a follow up to surfer dudes post re- internet in outer areas and (other areas).

Hey brothers!

I want to get hold of a woman working in pinkpannter in Sabang.

She is called Grech.

Anyone want to help me so I can get her telephone number?

Alex

I will be heading to Tacloban on the island of Leyte soon, and I am looking for a hotel that is 3 stars or better, clean, good security, close to restaurants or a short taxi ride away, GF friendly and maybe a pool. Any suggestions from members who has visited Tacloban recently?

[QUOTE=Firebird]Well instead of Staying in nice hotel in Makati close to the action, I am being put up in hotel in Filivest Corp City - Alabang.

Someone PLEASE tell me that there is some action to be had there....how about some pick-up at a mall? Any ideas....this really stinks so any information would definitely be appreciated[/QUOTE]I usually stay in Alabang. There certainly isn't much P4P.

I used black velvet massage and got what I needed.

Touchpoint Massage in Alabang also sounds promising.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88]I will be heading to Tacloban on the island of Leyte soon, and I am looking for a hotel that is 3 stars or better, clean, good security, close to restaurants or a short taxi ride away, GF friendly and maybe a pool. Any suggestions from members who has visited Tacloban recently?[/QUOTE]I have not been there, but have done the research for a trip next month. Nothing that meets all that. In fact the best of the lot appear to be a real stretch to call 3-star.

I'm staying at Leyte Park, but will not be seriously on the prowl (will only be meeting one DIA girl and then going traveling with her) so didn't check their girl policy. Was looking at Hotel Alejandro but my local cutie said no. Saving all my prowling for the following week in Cebu after she's on her way back home.

[QUOTE=Firebird]Well instead of Staying in nice hotel in Makati close to the action, I am being put up in hotel in Filivest Corp City - Alabang.

Someone PLEASE tell me that there is some action to be had there....how about some pick-up at a mall? Any ideas....this really stinks so any information would definitely be appreciated[/QUOTE]I don't think you are as shafted as others may say. I used to live there.

Theres a funny little bar near top of Zapote Raod called Suzy wong. Used to date and score with two of waitresses there.

Lots of girls in Festival mall, less so in ATC (alabang town Centre) but thousands girls in SM mall. Don't go there weeeknds as half of Manila seems to be there.

Theres a Sogo near the old mall on other side of Muntinlupa highway and where theres a short time motel. They can sometimes do in call.

Use DIA for girls living in Alabang or in Cavite. Theres plenty there and some are game. I had a Cavite girl take a 2 hour jeepney trip on my last Manila advnture to meet me.

I would look at it as a challenge and try your best.

There used to be a great driving range there too with lots of cuties. Managed to nail one but it took 3 months of swinging at balls before she gave it up.

But like all things, its a challenge and requires a positive spirit.

There are KTV places all along Zapote road, cultivate a friendly taxi driver to take you up and down the road, be funny and polite, and you WILL get what you need.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88]I will be heading to Tacloban on the island of Leyte soon, and I am looking for a hotel that is 3 stars or better, clean, good security, close to restaurants or a short taxi ride away, GF friendly and maybe a pool. Any suggestions from members who has visited Tacloban recently?[/QUOTE]Leyte Park is your best bet in Tacloban. No problem for me re. Girl friendliness. I took a DIA girl with me. Decent pool, spectacular view. Like most hotels in secondary places, a little 'tired' and could use a major cash infusion for upgrading. Security was good. It's about a 5 minute ride to downtown. I also stayed earlier at a supposed three star downtown called 'Stars'. It wasn't.

I recommend Otcho for seafood. One of the best meals I've had in PI.

Hey I'm looking for a very big hotel room in CDO. Basically I'm looking to throw a party in my room and need space for it.

Anyone have a hotel they would recommend?

Hey,

Does anyone know where a good size hotel room in CDO?

I want to have a party in my hotel room can someone give me a suggestion or 2.

[QUOTE=Questor 55]Leyte Park is your best bet in Tacloban. No problem for me re. Girl friendliness. I took a DIA girl with me. Decent pool, spectacular view. Like most hotels in secondary places, a little 'tired' and could use a major cash infusion for upgrading. Security was good. It's about a 5 minute ride to downtown. I also stayed earlier at a supposed three star downtown called 'Stars'. It wasn't.

I recommend Otcho for seafood. One of the best meals I've had in PI.[/QUOTE]
Questor 55,

Thanks for the info. When did you stay at Leyte Park and what room type did you book, and did you book from an online website or directly from the hotel? I have not seen any hotels in Tacloban listed on the usual discount hotel websites. Thanks for the tip about Otcho, I will have to check it out.

Mongrinastrlnd,

Thanks for the info. I plan on being in Tacloban in early October so let me know your thoughts if you visit Tacloban in September.

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Thanks for the info. When did you stay at Leyte Park and what room type did you book, and did you book from an online website or directly from the hotel?[/QUOTE]

Last year, and the year prior, I just showed up at Leyte Park and they always had standard rooms available. I think it came to 40usd per night. I agree with other posters, LP could benefit from a little renovation, but the location is great... a beautiful waterfront view and just a few mins trike to the center of town. Both times, I had arranged entertainment prior to arrival, but I noted that women were discretely trying to get my attention whenever I went by the reception area in the evenings.

There is also McArthur Park Resort. Much further away from the center of town, but much nicer IMHO.

Any and all info of ones experiences in and around PG would be appreciated.

I will be there end of sept. Early oct for a minimum of a month maybe 2.

Have narrowed the search down to a few places now.

Fishermans cove is a maybe. But they don't have wifi in rooms.

I don't like to carry large amount of cash but a couple grand is ok, if lost or stolen does not break the bank, but running out because of no ATM's is a hazzle when you have a little hotty in tow.

Is there a problem with accessable atm cash there?

[QUOTE=Vandaddio]Any and all info of ones experiences in and around PG would be appreciated.

I will be there end of sept. Early oct for a minimum of a month maybe 2.

Have narrowed the search down to a few places now.

Fishermans cove is a maybe. But they don't have wifi in rooms.

I don't like to carry large amount of cash but a couple grand is ok, if lost or stolen does not break the bank, but running out because of no ATM's is a hazzle when you have a little hotty in tow.

Is there a problem with accessable atm cash there?[/QUOTE]

The last time I was there, I had to either go to an ATM in Puerto Galera proper, or pay the 6.5% fee for a cash advance at the Sabang tourist center.

We have just had the bus high-jack and 8 Chinese killed in downtown Manila by a disaffected ex-police officer who wanted his job back.

Not so well internationally reported but far more sinister in my view is a bus hold up with 4 killed in south western Mindanao in the last 24 hours. A bus on its way from Cagayan de Oro to Zamboanga City was held up at 1 am Thursday by nine gunmen dressed in police uniform who had created their own "police" check point. The 20 passengers were ordered off the bus and the driver, conductor, and two uniformed police guards were shot dead. The bus was then set alight and the attackers fled.

The incident happened at Kapatagan, Lanao del Norte, Mindanao, which is about 60 kms south west of Iligan City. This is a pretty tension-filled area. The bus marshalls were there because of previous problems. Perhaps the local militia were due their local cut from the bus company? Whatever the reason there is a risk in the south west Mindanao where muslim-christian tensions are fragile.

Although travel advisories of a number of embassies red flag the whole of Mindanao there are many areas that remain quite safe in my view including the major cities of Davao, Cagayan de Oro, Butuan and Surigao City.

KongKing

I'd bet that if any Americans were on board, they would have bought it too. :(

[QUOTE=KongKing]We have just had the bus high-jack and 8 Chinese killed in downtown Manila by a disaffected ex-police officer who wanted his job back.

Not so well internationally reported but far more sinister in my view is a bus hold up with 4 killed in south western Mindanao in the last 24 hours. A bus on its way from Cagayan de Oro to Zamboanga City was held up at 1 am Thursday by nine gunmen dressed in police uniform who had created their own "police" check point. The 20 passengers were ordered off the bus and the driver, conductor, and two uniformed police guards were shot dead. The bus was then set alight and the attackers fled.

The incident happened at Kapatagan, Lanao del Norte, Mindanao, which is about 60 kms south west of Iligan City. This is a pretty tension-filled area. The bus marshalls were there because of previous problems. Perhaps the local militia were due their local cut from the bus company? Whatever the reason there is a risk in the south west Mindanao where muslim-christian tensions are fragile.

Although travel advisories of a number of embassies red flag the whole of Mindanao there are many areas that remain quite safe in my view including the major cities of Davao, Cagayan de Oro, Butuan and Surigao City.

KongKing[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KongKing]We have just had the bus high-jack and 8 Chinese killed in downtown Manila by a disaffected ex-police officer who wanted his job back.
[/QUOTE]A botched mega screw up .. no comments ..

[QUOTE]Not so well internationally reported but far more sinister in my view is a bus hold up with 4 killed in south western Mindanao in the last 24 hours. A bus on its way from Cagayan de Oro to Zamboanga City was held up at 1 am Thursday by nine gunmen dressed in police uniform who had created their own "police" check point. The 20 passengers were ordered off the bus and the driver, conductor, and two uniformed police guards were shot dead. The bus was then set alight and the attackers fled.[/QUOTE]Somebody mentioned that the NPA and the militia have made 'violence' as a part of their life as a source of income.

99% of the hits are money making ventures.. Maybe somebody forgot to check with the escaped passengers if they were robbed first .. :D

[QUOTE=KongKing]We have just had the bus high-jack and 8 Chinese killed in downtown Manila by a disaffected ex-police officer who wanted his job back.

Not so well internationally reported but far more sinister in my view is a bus hold up with 4 killed in south western Mindanao in the last 24 hours. A bus on its way from Cagayan de Oro to Zamboanga City was held up at 1 am Thursday by nine gunmen dressed in police uniform who had created their own "police" check point. The 20 passengers were ordered off the bus and the driver, conductor, and two uniformed police guards were shot dead. The bus was then set alight and the attackers fled.

The incident happened at Kapatagan, Lanao del Norte, Mindanao, which is about 60 kms south west of Iligan City. This is a pretty tension-filled area. The bus marshalls were there because of previous problems. Perhaps the local militia were due their local cut from the bus company? Whatever the reason there is a risk in the south west Mindanao where muslim-christian tensions are fragile.

Although travel advisories of a number of embassies red flag the whole of Mindanao there are many areas that remain quite safe in my view including the major cities of Davao, Cagayan de Oro, Butuan and Surigao City.

KongKing[/QUOTE]Seems political or mafia motivated. There wouldn't be enough people at 1am to make a fortune by mere robbery.

[QUOTE=KongKing]We have just had the bus high-jack and 8 Chinese killed in downtown Manila by a disaffected ex-police officer who wanted his job back.

Not so well internationally reported but far more sinister in my view is a bus hold up with 4 killed in south western Mindanao in the last 24 hours. A bus on its way from Cagayan de Oro to Zamboanga City was held up at 1 am Thursday by nine gunmen dressed in police uniform who had created their own "police" check point. The 20 passengers were ordered off the bus and the driver, conductor, and two uniformed police guards were shot dead. The bus was then set alight and the attackers fled.

The incident happened at Kapatagan, Lanao del Norte, Mindanao, which is about 60 kms south west of Iligan City. This is a pretty tension-filled area. The bus marshalls were there because of previous problems. Perhaps the local militia were due their local cut from the bus company? Whatever the reason there is a risk in the south west Mindanao where muslim-christian tensions are fragile.

Although travel advisories of a number of embassies red flag the whole of Mindanao there are many areas that remain quite safe in my view including the major cities of Davao, Cagayan de Oro, Butuan and Surigao City.

KongKing[/QUOTE]Common in those parts. Sounds like local business rivalry/extortion in this case. Banditry (Robbery) is common also as is inter party political violence & of course violence by the "rebel's" factions.

Any farang who uses a bus for inter city travel in Mindanao is out of their freakin' mind.

Yeah, I know, guys do it, fools.
AV

Thinking of spending a few relaxing days in Boracay on my next venture to PI before turning loose in AC/ maybe even Manila now that LAcafe seem to reopen. Loved the photos of the beaches in Boracay. Hotels and RT tickets from either Cebu or Manila are not too expensive either. So it might be doable for me.

Does anyone have any info or even any idea if there are any FL or girlie bars or brothels on Boracay--in case I get too lonely or (horny). Trying to avoid having to wank myself to sleep.

Beers and cheers

FZ

[QUOTE=Amavida]Common in those parts. Sounds like local business rivalry/extortion in this case. Banditry (Robbery) is common also as is inter party political violence & of course violence by the "rebel's" factions.

Any farang who uses a bus for inter city travel in Mindanao is out of their freakin' mind.

Yeah, I know, guys do it, fools.
AV[/QUOTE]I often use buses, even in Mindanao - it's a great way to move around and not really that dangerous during the day, and the nature is so beautiful. Just don't do it at 1 am, I mean... that's common sense. Best time is at sun set, the light makes the trees even greener and the surrounding even more beautiful. Of course also don't go to the West part of the country (from Cotabato left) but Daveo, Surigaeo, Butuan all should be OK.

[QUOTE=Denom]I often use buses, even in Mindanao - it's a great way to move around and not really that dangerous during the day, and the nature is so beautiful. Just don't do it at 1 am, I mean... that's common sense. Best time is at sun set, the light makes the trees even greener and the surrounding even more beautiful. Of course also don't go to the West part of the country (from Cotabato left) but Daveo, Surigaeo, Butuan all should be OK.[/QUOTE]
I had planned to fly back from CDO to Davao on Thursday night, but the weather sucked, the flights are often canceled in the midst of heavy rains, and I didn't want to take the risk of going to the airport, finding the flight canceled, and then returning only to find I had no room because the hotel (Mallberry) was full. So instead, I opted to stay the extra night and to drive back on Friday, seeing as we had a car and driver already in CDO and he would be returning to Davao with or without me.

This is probably the 20th or maybe the 30th time I've made this drive, and, as Denom has said, the countryside of Mindanao is truly beautiful as I was reminded again. The terrain varies from coastal to mountainous, the greenery is lush and varied, and there are enough pit stops along the way that you don't have to worry about chances to empty your bladder. That said, while I recommend the drive, I would never recommend taking a bus. It's true, they're comfortable enough, and safe enough during the day that you don't have to worry about hijackings, robberies or kidnapping. However, the drivers are insane, take absurd risks along roads that are, at best, marginal, and seem to learn nothing from the all too frequent accidents that have occurred in the recent past. If guys want to take these side trips, I suggest finding a couple of other fellow travelers and sharing the expense of renting a car and driver.

I've not made the drive to Butuan, since when I need to go there I fly from Cebu or Manila, but I'm sure it too is a beautiful one. I can assure anyone who might be curious that, unless you're into banana and coconut trees, rice fields and sugar cane farms, there's not a hell of a lot of interesting scenery on the road from Cotabato to Davao, but even this might prove intriguing to some. I've been here so long I more or less take all of the aforementioned for granted.

GE

[QUOTE=Freezone]Thinking of spending a few relaxing days in Boracay on my next venture to PI before turning loose in AC/ maybe even Manila now that LAcafe seem to reopen. Loved the photos of the beaches in Boracay. Hotels and RT tickets from either Cebu or Manila are not too expensive either. So it might be doable for me.

Does anyone have any info or even any idea if there are any FL or girlie bars or brothels on Boracay--in case I get too lonely or (horny). Trying to avoid having to wank myself to sleep.

Beers and cheers

FZ[/QUOTE]

As a rule Boracay is a Bring your own babe place. There are freelancers around, but the quality is not inspiring and the asking prices toppy. Therer are lots of foreign tourists chasing a relatively small local population and most of the pinoys that can afford to go there are from a wealthy background so not so interested in typical monger material.

If you are thinking of visiting Boracay soon, just be a bit careful.

This is the typhoon season.

There is a huge weather barrier right along the beach that spoils the view, and breaks much of the openness of the place. Often strong rain in the afternoon, and sometimes strong winds and heavy rain in the evenings.

The sand is often wet, and not so appealing. I was in Cocomangos about a month ago. Lots of Koreans there, probably more women than men. And maybe 10 to 15 fl who seemed to spend their time doing not much. maybe there was trade later in the evening, but they didn't seem to be very hopeful. So you should be able to get fl readily.

By chance, I ended up staying at a small place called Dave's Straw Hat Inn. Very pleasant, well run, good price, wifi worked. Just a bit far from the main action.

[QUOTE=KongKing]We have just had the bus high-jack and 8 Chinese killed in downtown Manila by a disaffected ex-police officer who wanted his job back.

Not so well internationally reported but far more sinister in my view is a bus hold up with 4 killed in south western Mindanao in the last 24 hours. A bus on its way from Cagayan de Oro to Zamboanga City was held up at 1 am Thursday by nine gunmen dressed in police uniform who had created their own "police" check point. The 20 passengers were ordered off the bus and the driver, conductor, and two uniformed police guards were shot dead. The bus was then set alight and the attackers fled.

The incident happened at Kapatagan, Lanao del Norte, Mindanao, which is about 60 kms south west of Iligan City. This is a pretty tension-filled area. The bus marshalls were there because of previous problems. Perhaps the local militia were due their local cut from the bus company? Whatever the reason there is a risk in the south west Mindanao where muslim-christian tensions are fragile.

Although travel advisories of a number of embassies red flag the whole of Mindanao there are many areas that remain quite safe in my view including the major cities of Davao, Cagayan de Oro, Butuan and Surigao City.

KongKing[/QUOTE]

That's on the route to Pagadian, after the very stop to Ozamis.

In some areas using Vans is the better option. Drivers explained to me that Bus companies often try avoid 'local taxes.' The Van lines are operated by powerful local families who often have interested on both sides of the law. Night buses in that specific region are not a good idea.

I personally have seen local policy near that spot. They were holding out their hands for 50 peso tax per Van. Buses would likely cost more.

Small world, I stayed at Straw hat several years ago for my first and possibly last trip to Borocay. No wifi when I went there, I actually went up into Dave's office to use his computer.

Dave of Straw Hat had a Fil wife and she was apparently operating a business in Hawaii.

"Yes, honey, you go to Hawaii and I'll stay in Philippines seeing if I can make this Borocay hotel business work." Tough life.

[QUOTE=Gangles]If you are thinking of visiting Boracay soon, just be a bit careful.

This is the typhoon season.

There is a huge weather barrier right along the beach that spoils the view, and breaks much of the openness of the place. Often strong rain in the afternoon, and sometimes strong winds and heavy rain in the evenings.

The sand is often wet, and not so appealing. I was in Cocomangos about a month ago. Lots of Koreans there, probably more women than men. And maybe 10 to 15 fl who seemed to spend their time doing not much. maybe there was trade later in the evening, but they didn't seem to be very hopeful. So you should be able to get fl readily.

By chance, I ended up staying at a small place called Dave's Straw Hat Inn. Very pleasant, well run, good price, wifi worked. Just a bit far from the main action.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]This is probably the 20th or maybe the 30th time I've made this drive, and, as Denom has said, the countryside of Mindanao is truly beautiful as I was reminded again. The terrain varies from coastal to mountainous, the greenery is lush and varied, and there are enough pit stops along the way that you don't have to worry about chances to empty your bladder. That said, while I recommend the drive, I would never recommend taking a bus. It's true, they're comfortable enough, and safe enough during the day that you don't have to worry about hijackings, robberies or kidnapping. However, the drivers are insane, take absurd risks along roads that are, at best, marginal, and seem to learn nothing from the all too frequent accidents that have occurred in the recent past. If guys want to take these side trips, I suggest finding a couple of other fellow travelers and sharing the expense of renting a car and driver.[/QUOTE]Buses are especially good for people who have a lot of time to just wander around Philippines. Not good for people on holiday with only 15 days a year or what. Renting a van then may indeed be a better option, but it isn't as flexible as to just hop on and off buses. Van almost always come with the driver and this being the Philippines, the driver does not make a big difference in price. But to improvise your itinerary if you have all the time in the world, buses are great.

Last trip I made was Davao, Tagum, Butuan, Surigao, Sirgao, Tacloban, Ormoc, Cebu city, Moalboal, Dumaguete, all by bus (with the occasional boat/ferry/supercat), then back to Manila by airplane because I had a family appointment, but I could just as well have continued all the way up by bus through Bais, Bacolod, Iloilo, Boracay, Puerto Galera then Manila.

It's so easy with just short trips of max 5 hours to go all around the Philippines this way, and it costs peanuts. Unlike other countries, including Thailand, it's so easy to meet local girls. On the plaza in the evening, at the beach, malls, through tricycle drivers... (and I don't speak about karaoke and bars). Again you need time and you won't get lucky every time but just speaking with them can be fun too. They are a fun lot and by all means they always very ready to be invited at Jollybee and you'll get tons of cell phone numbers that will keep you busy no end. Don't go at their house. They won't do anything with the family there and half the village will gather to watch the foreigner.

That's how buses can be fun, but yes, for short stays, business trip, etc, airplane and van are better. There are also downsides. Drivers can be reckless indeed (but so are those in town and by all means they are half as reckless as in Sri Lanka, not that it helps much); price/quality ratio of lodging is bad, food (if like me you don't like sea food) is a problem, cleanliness is not Thailand, buses as well as ferries can be somewhat dangerous at times, etc.

These all are the pro and con of bus travel improvisation, but if I compare all the Asian countries together, Philippines is the best for this kind of travel improvisation because the infrastructure is adequate, weather always perfect (rare to get non-stop rain in the PH though it happens, especially on the East side, Samar etc), your dollars or euros goes a very long way everywhere, but mostly because its people speak English and are so welcoming and always so interested/friendly with foreigners and always joyful/laughing. It really is fun and more times than not if you don't rush things you can get lucky as well. Plus staying in the cheap hotels (I don't use air-con or TV just need a clean bed and ideally wireless (more rare)), gets you to meet at times penniless sleeping or otherwise beauties as well... Quite a few fond adventures had I this way.

[QUOTE=Denom]Buses are especially good for people who have a lot of time to just wander around Philippines. Not good for people on holiday with only 15 days a year or what. Renting a van then may indeed be a better option, but it isn't as flexible as to just hop on and off buses. Van almost always come with the driver and this being the Philippines, the driver does not make a big difference in price. But to improvise your itinerary if you have all the time in the world, buses are great.

Last trip I made was Davao, Tagum, Butuan, Surigao, Sirgao, Tacloban, Ormoc, Cebu city, Moalboal, Dumaguete, all by bus (with the occasional boat/ferry/supercat), then back to Manila by airplane because I had a family appointment, but I could just as well have continued all the way up by bus through Bais, Bacolod, Iloilo, Boracay, Puerto Galera then Manila.

It's so easy with just short trips of max 5 hours to go all around the Philippines this way, and it costs peanuts. Unlike other countries, including Thailand, it's so easy to meet local girls. On the plaza in the evening, at the beach, malls, through tricycle drivers... (and I don't speak about karaoke and bars). Again you need time and you won't get lucky every time but just speaking with them can be fun too. They are a fun lot and by all means they always very ready to be invited at Jollybee and you'll get tons of cell phone numbers that will keep you busy no end. Don't go at their house. They won't do anything with the family there and half the village will gather to watch the foreigner.

That's how buses can be fun, but yes, for short stays, business trip, etc, airplane and van are better. There are also downsides. Drivers can be reckless indeed (but so are those in town and by all means they are half as reckless as in Sri Lanka, not that it helps much); price/quality ratio of lodging is bad, food (if like me you don't like sea food) is a problem, cleanliness is not Thailand, buses as well as ferries can be somewhat dangerous at times, etc.

These all are the pro and con of bus travel improvisation, but if I compare all the Asian countries together, Philippines is the best for this kind of travel improvisation because the infrastructure is adequate, weather always perfect (rare to get non-stop rain in the PH though it happens, especially on the East side, Samar etc), your dollars or euros goes a very long way everywhere, but mostly because its people speak English and are so welcoming and always so interested/friendly with foreigners and always joyful/laughing. It really is fun and more times than not if you don't rush things you can get lucky as well. Plus staying in the cheap hotels (I don't use air-con or TV just need a clean bed and ideally wireless (more rare)), gets you to meet at times penniless sleeping or otherwise beauties as well... Quite a few fond adventures had I this way.[/QUOTE]

The bad qualities of bus drivers might actually be the single most valid argument to get on buses. Last week a former beauty queen and her companions died in a crash. A bus overtook a tricycle and converted her SUV into a pancake. I pick seats among the middle rows. So the truck hitting the back is at some distance and also the debris from the driver's victim wont fly right into my face. Some routes are rather rough so Vans might be no fun at all. Having said that, I m pretty tired of buses in the RP. Some 3rd class Thai services easily beat the aircon RP lines.

Some routes are only serviced by buses as some local strong man believe that the population should be held hostage. So they make the money and nobody else.

I was here last weekend. It's often said that you should BYO to Panglao, and I did. But while I was in Bohol Beach Club I spied some opportunities at the adjacent public beach. It's to the east of the resort, going left if you're looking out to sea. Especially on a Sunday it will have lots of local people, a slight majority of which will be the target group.

Also, in the resort itself there were a few Korean girls that appeared unattached and looking for fun.

Stayed in that area as outlined in post #1153.
Would love to have the time to explore Bohol to compare and contrast Bohol women with Cebuanas!
Some day soon!

Any recommendations for fun in Dipolog?

Massage?

Bar scene?

Hey what are peoples thoughts about renting houses/condos in CDO? How do you know the people will not just take your money and not rent you the house? What are some tips for 1st time renters? I was just thinking of renting for a month to cut down on money stolen if that was the case.

Also what are some of your success rates of hooking up with DIA chicks or other internet girls online? Success as in sleeping with them.

[QUOTE=Snake12]Any recommendations for fun in Dipolog?

Massage?

Bar scene?[/QUOTE]
Stay at Top Plaza Hotel (Echaves St Corner Quezon Avenue Dipolog City) is right in the middle of town.

Walk around get friended by chicks. There is a new large mall, lots of girls around.

There a couple of 'bars' within a few blocks in which you will find local patrons only. Ask a trike driver to take you to one. Locals are getting it for PHP200 a pop just to give you a guide on how much you will be overcharged hehehehe :)

Massage? get a girlfriend there..

Dipolog is not a mongering destination but like everywhere in the PI there are girls looking for a farang to milk.

Look if I were you i would go on CB or DIA, search for girls there & let them know you are going to Dipolog. never hurts to line up a couple to audition.

There is a beach resort nearby if you fall in love & want to take your new found love somewhere less... industrial.

AV

[QUOTE=Mattrick]Stayed in that area as outlined in post #1153.
Would love to have the time to explore Bohol to compare and contrast Bohol women with Cebuanas!
Some day soon![/QUOTE]

Just a small point of clarification.
Pretty much all girls from around Cebu, Bohol, Siquijor are Cebuanas, because the Visayan language is called Cebuano.
There is no physical difference between Bohol women and Cebu women. Maybe Bohol women are raised on a more "religious" diet (check out the biblical quotes on all the tricycles), so they may appear as a bit more conservative.
The hottest girl I ever met in Cebu came from Bohol (sample of 1) but it shows that variety is unpredictable.

Thinking of heading down to Bohol for a few days. I've not been for 10 years . Can anyone remember aa decent place to stay (under say 2000P) with free wifi?

I'm kind of surprised that a senior member like you would give such an ambigious post. Bohol is a big place with many attractions.

I liked ISIS on Alona beach, but the best place in Taglibaran is the Bohol. I forgot the name, but have name and pictures in my files.

[QUOTE=GregLondon]Thinking of heading down to Bohol for a few days. I've not been for 10 years . Can anyone remember aa decent place to stay (under say 2000P) with free wifi?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hookup09]Hey what are peoples thoughts about renting houses/condos in CDO? How do you know the people will not just take your money and not rent you the house? What are some tips for 1st time renters? I was just thinking of renting for a month to cut down on money stolen if that was the case.

Also what are some of your success rates of hooking up with DIA chicks or other internet girls online? Success as in sleeping with them.[/QUOTE]



You rent a place in CDO like you rent a place anywhere else in the PI, first you check the place out and see what the problems are, open sewers, noisy kids, a chicken farm next door.

Most landlords in the PI will not rent you a place unless it is a one year lease, they usually want a month up front, the last month and maybe another just for show. If you are in doubt about the ownership you can challenge the person to show you paperwork that says they own the place or have the
legal right to own it. You should get a copy of any lease they sign and if there is a dispute you cna take it to the Barangay captain.

I used to live in CDO, you cna rent some apratments thre for undr P10,000 a month close to Limkekai mall.

You can PM me for more.

Spam hog

I arrived in Tacloban last night, and as expected, Leyte Park Hotel has seen much better days. The room wasn't really BAD, barring a broken room-safe in the first one, but everything could use refurbishing and a coat of paint. The three things it does have going for it is location, location, location.

Met a DIA cutie here last night, gonna take a lot of work with her, probably a long-term project, but cute, slim and smart. Only staying 2 nights here so probably no action with her this trip.

Does anyone know of a fitness center or gym in Puerto Galera close to Sabang Beach? I'd like to get my daily workout in October while I'm there if I could. If not, I'll have to ride the girls a little harder I guess. :)

Yella Man

[QUOTE=Yella Man]Does anyone know of a fitness center or gym in Puerto Galera close to Sabang Beach? I'd like to get my daily workout in October while I'm there if I could. If not, I'll have to ride the girls a little harder I guess. :)

Yella Man[/QUOTE]I thought the 3rd floor of the Boardwalk was a fitness center? Anyway, there is a gym in Sabang. Not that I ever needed it though.

C.

[QUOTE=Carmex]I thought the 3rd floor of the Boardwalk was a fitness center? Anyway, there is a gym in Sabang. Not that I ever needed it though.

C.[/QUOTE]I've been to Puerto Galera a few times, but only for short trips so I never really looked for a gym. I'll be there eight days this time and will definitely be in need of a gym to kill time in between fucking, and diving. Never heard of the Boardwalk, but I'll check it out. Thanks!

Yella Man

[QUOTE=Yella Man]I've been to Puerto Galera a few times, but only for short trips so I never really looked for a gym. I'll be there eight days this time and will definitely be in need of a gym to kill time in between fucking, and diving. Never heard of the Boardwalk, but I'll check it out. Thanks!

Yella Man[/QUOTE]Sorry brother, might have been called Broadway. Anyway, my neighbor who lives in Sabang 7 months out of the year told me about it. I never went there. Bar on the bottom floor, Disco on the second floor, gym on the 3rd floor. At least that is how he described it to me. As far as I remember.

Anyway, there is a gym in Sabang. Or at least there was in July when I was there.

C.

[QUOTE=Carmex]Sorry brother, might have been called Broadway. Anyway, my neighbor who lives in Sabang 7 months out of the year told me about it. I never went there. Bar on the bottom floor, Disco on the second floor, gym on the 3rd floor. At least that is how he described it to me. As far as I remember.

Anyway, there is a gym in Sabang. Or at least there was in July when I was there.

C.[/QUOTE]Ahhh yes, Broadway disco! I know it well. I never knew there was a gym on the third floor though. Thanks for the info!

Yella Man

A freind told me that the girl scene is happening but the girls are mostly dawgs. I can't understand why one place would only attract old / fat / ugly's. Not sure if I believe his opinion. But will find out in a few more weeks.

[QUOTE=Vandaddio]A freind told me that the girl scene is happening but the girls are mostly dawgs. I can't understand why one place would only attract old / fat / ugly's. Not sure if I believe his opinion. But will find out in a few more weeks.[/QUOTE]Around PG, most of the cuter ones are hooked to Koreans .. no kidding :D

As for the dawgs, no - there are enough cuties, but you got to start your search early in the evening, not after 11 PM or later.

[QUOTE=Vandaddio]A freind told me that the girl scene is happening but the girls are mostly dawgs. I can't understand why one place would only attract old / fat / ugly's. Not sure if I believe his opinion. But will find out in a few more weeks.[/QUOTE]

Puerto Galera is hit or miss depending on what time of the season you're there. With only five clubs (discos) to choose from, the pickings can be slim. Most of the girls working there hop a ferry in from Manila or else where's. Last January when I was there the selection of women was fantastic. I'm hoping this October will be the same. If not, I'll simply head to AC or Cebu.

Yella Man

[QUOTE=Vandaddio]A freind told me that the girl scene is happening but the girls are mostly dawgs. I can't understand why one place would only attract old / fat / ugly's. Not sure if I believe his opinion. But will find out in a few more weeks.[/QUOTE]

If you cannot find a hottie BF in Sabang for the night, you are either way too picky or just not trying.

Fuck man, what are you looking for Model 10's? If so, start early, like around 6-7pm. Can't find any? Go to the other places and look for FL or Tourists. Shit man, I mean really, if you can't get laid in Sabang, well, damn, I just don't know what to say.

Old/fat/ugly's? Really? I was there in July (total low season) and was pretty much fucked out by day 10. My journal I kept told me the total was at 20 girls.

I then met Miss Sabang, and her friend Miss Sabang-Best Bikini Body (saw the sash in her room later that night). Kept them both for next 9 days.

As far as I'm concerned, Sabang has some goooooood pussy.

C.

[QUOTE=Carmex]If you cannot find a hottie BF in Sabang for the night, you are either way too picky or just not trying ... I then met Miss Sabang, and her friend Miss Sabang-Best Bikini Body (saw the sash in her room later that night). Kept them both for next 9 days.

As far as I'm concerned, Sabang has some goooooood pussy. C.[/QUOTE]
C,

Worthwhile diving, nice beaches (close by) for daytime activities and "goooooood pussy" for nightime adventures; that’s why I am thinking of going.

I have heard a few good things about Atlantis Dive resort which is right on the water and in the thick of things; also Mermaid Resort up on the hill. But what Sabang Beach hotels do you recommend?

Thanks, NB

last march i posted a fairly comprehensive two-part report on cagayan de oro. see: postings 1078 and 1077 on 18th march in this forum.

just had a further few weeks there, overlapping with their fiesta week. the town is buzzing and booming. this updates a little on the hotels and on the nightclubs etc in my earlier report.

[b]hotels[/b]
amongst others, i stayed at 4 moderately priced hotels that have opened in this last year: marigold, metro (opened this last week), new dawn, and victoria suites. it’s good to stay at new hotels knowing with some confidence that showers, water supply, air cons will work, and that the bedding has at least a little freshness about them.

marigold hotel: opened in april, this is in the landbank building, corner of velez and antonia luna streets, but it’s poorly signposted outside. they seem to be catering more for conferences and weddings than guests. their in-house restaurant was heavily “sorry sir, not available”. the free wi-fi was restricted to the reception and a few rooms. entrance to the reception on the 3rd floor could be regarded as a “walk of shame” for some when walking to the staff-heavy check-in. discounts on agoda, but promo prices from 1300p for a standard room including refrigerator and mini bar.

metro hotel: just opened last week and near the corner of antonio luna and capt vincent roa streets. it is just a 5 minute walk from limkitkai and gaisano malls. it is a little isolated from the action, surrounded by light industry. good new rooms, flat screen cable tv, wi-fi only in the foyer but free. coffee shop is with limited food. there seemed to be an over-supply of staff with too little to do and when they did, it was slow service. probably it’s good value at 1,180p for superior rooms and 1,880p for executive suites.

new dawne pensionne: opposite philtown hotel, on the corner of velez and macahambus streets, and not too far from the action. this was a 3 story in february (under the name of natures pensionne, velez) but is now a 7 story well managed hotel. there is wi-fi on all floors at 120p for six hours (cheaper than smartbro). no in-house restaurant but plenty nearby. 1080p for a superior room (but no refrigerator). ngood value.

victoria suites: neri street, divisoria. in march they had no generator (much needed in cdo!) and i was given a candle for the 5 hour brown-out! they now have a generator, much needed in a city that has irregular rolling brown-outs. the rooms are cramped.

i also spent time at kingston lodge. kingston lodge is located 1km up the road from the sm mall heading towards airport, and down a short rough side-road. for some this would be regarded as too isolated, but for me it was no problem and only a 100 peso ride to down town. rated no2 by feedback out of 21 hotels listed on trip advisor this is a favoured congregating place for local expats and visitors. a regular wednesday morning/lunch “yap yap” session would be attended by 20+ expats and some partners. it’s owned by a brit and an australian and their wives. they have great western food menu; rooms from 1000p up, and apartelles with kitchen facilities for longer term stayers at 1600p. good free wi-fi in most rooms facing the restaurant and two swimming pools. [url]www.kingston-lodge.com[/url]


[b]nightclubs[/b]
in my feb posting i enclosed a map of the downtown clubs, which i update here. i called in at most but not all. discovered two new (old) ones and found one, the exotic, had been burnt to the ground.

if you are looking for nice comfortable lounge seats try bada bing, gion, love oro, mics and mugs, spooks and thrives. if you are happy with the harder stackable chairs try coras 2 and 3, club 39, hot babes; fantastic is in between with its plastic and chrome wicker chairs.

there seemed to be more nudity this time than in the pre-election feb period. there are some real cuties and many of the younger nubiles are at the most down-and-out of bars!

i digress here. gez, is it me, or are there others like me who (perhaps as they get older) get more turned on by “fossae lumbales laterales” wtf? i mean “dimples of venus” (see photo below and wikipedia!). some guys are infatuated with boobs, others by butts, and me i seemed to have developed an infatuation for these love dimples. unlike the former two, you don’t normally see love dimples out in the street, but you certainly see it in the clubs. am i imagining it but are these love dimples more prevalent here in the philippines than other countries?? i digress even further, isn’t it great riding doggie looking down upon and holding onto those small hips and pressing those love dimples?! (wipes froth from mouth)

a few updated details from the clubs:

club 39: i missed this one in my feb review. it is on borja street between velez and tiano bros. 90p entrance and first drink. pretty basic but some cuties. three were prepared to pussy pick up the note in the neck of the bottle!

coras 2 and 3: 130p entrance including 3 smbs (or 2 smls). 170 ld, 1500 bf. some real cuties hang out in these run-down joints. and you may get a bj in the dark recesses for upwards of 500p.

gion: i did say last time i would not go back to this place, but one of my isg mates said it was outstanding so i dropped by at 11pm on a friday night. it is a comfortable lounge but only 4 others there. first ladies drink was, yes, still 675p!! gez! a filipino bought a ladies drink, had a girl with him for less than 15 minutes and away she went dancing. i am not crazy about these places, like fantastic, with the wrap around front, back and sideways mirrors, with the dancer spending most of her time preening herself in the mirror and ignoring her customers. but there were indeed some nice ladies and outstanding love dimples!

hot babes: tucked away on burgos street near the corner with j.r. borja street. i missed this one in my earlier report. some isg members have had a good time here. pretty basic, few girls, young and good looking.

love city oro: 110p plus added vat. 250p ld (much better than previous times). good dancing and range of girls but slow going on a tuesday night.

mics and mugs: 50p entrance plus 65p for sml. ld 250p and 3500p for bar fine but nothing worthy of that on the night i was there.

nu wave: (the old ontic) opposite bada bing. ld 375p first, 275p second every half hour. this time i was not pestered by the bayotsan (ladyboy mamasan). if you want milf types this is the one; only a few young ones.

spooks: pretty busy the nights i was there and still the congregation for a handful of visiting and local foreigners. at 9pm there is a parade of the girls and the 3 nights i was there including a tuesday there were over 20. no entrance fee, beers 65p or 45p in happy hour (i think before 10pm). this is still my pick for the selection, the dancing (candle dance and shower dance after midnight on a friday and saturday) and for value for money. a good selection of imported canned beer is also available.

thrives: 105p first beer. about 15 girls on a tuesday, some hotties. 250p ld, 3500bf.


[b]other aspects[/b]
cdo probably has the worst drivers in the country, and that’s saying something! pedestrians take care.

macarthur's park alongside the provincial capital building and gaston park are good areas for casual meetings with friendly locals. there is an active “do you want a chick” street scene in taino bros and capistrano street but watch out for **** and disease.

i found a good non prescription pharmacy called boticas, alongside coras 3 on tiano bros street selling all kinds of chinese male vitamins. try “true hero”, six tablets 200p, really up-standing.

if you are looking for a good relaxing entertainment centre, live bands, where you can take your partner try new zax on ebarte street. also silver rain on divisoria (see earlier report) is a high energy disco but i am getting a bit beyond that!

as for me i was well occupied with some lovely chat-mates, but that is another (unpublished) story!

kongking

KK another outstanding, helpful report. I think you've probably been to about 400% more places than I have in CDO and I'm there at least once a month. However, I would strongly disagree about CDO drivers being the worst. I don't think you've spent quite enough time in Davao where the drivers are much, much worse.

GE

[QUOTE=KongKing]

I digress here. Gez, is it me, or are there others like me who (perhaps as they get older) get more turned on by “fossae lumbales laterales” WTF? I mean “dimples of venus” (see photo below and Wikipedia!). Some guys are infatuated with boobs, others by butts, and me I seemed to have developed an infatuation for these love dimples. Unlike the former two, you don’t normally see love dimples out in the street, but you certainly see it in the clubs. Am I imagining it but are these love dimples more prevalent here in the Philippines than other countries?? I digress even further, isn’t it great riding doggie looking down upon and holding onto those small hips and pressing those love dimples?! (wipes froth from mouth)

[/QUOTE]

I have been fascinate by these devilish little dimples for over 40 years but never knew they had a name. I have found them most prevalent on slimmer, more petite women.

So, you are not alone.

Slim

P.S. Found a free pic for you

[QUOTE=Nvslim]I have been fascinate by these devilish little dimples for over 40 years but never knew they had a name. I have found them most prevalent on slimmer, more petite women.

So, you are not alone.

Slim

P.S. Found a free pic for you[/QUOTE]

Nope he is not alone. I like them too, find them really sexy.....

Nice report about CDO by kong king so I thought I would add my thoughts about some of the hotels and eating places I have been to in my 10 visits to this city. All these hotels I stay at are in divasoria within walking distance of the center of town. The only hotel I would stay away from is Lamarr Inn which is across the street from VIP. One morning I woke up to find a large mango skin about 10 feet from the waste basket I had put it in the night before . I am thinking the only thing large enough to take it there would be rat, and ten min later I had checked out never to return. I think Grand City is an ok place and seems to cater to the business traveler and has a nice bar and restaurant . Their breakfast is a buffet for 150 P and a good value. Phil Town I did not care for because they have central air con and no way to adjust how cold it is in your room. Casa Christalia is older place but clean and only about 800 for a room with a big ( as they say matrimonial ) bed. Pleasant staff too. If you want to avoid the walk of shame stay at Natures Pensionne which is in back of Grand City hotel. Some of their rooms you gain entrance to without going through the lobby.
I will agree that New Dawn Pensonne is the best value in Divasoris. New and clean and great flat screen TV reception. Seems the word has gotten out about this place cause the last 2 times they were fully booked so maybe reservations are the thing to do now.

Restaurants
Dear Manok has good food and as their name suggests specializes in bbq chicken but their other offerings are good too. I like the boneless’ bangus .
Thai Me Up is a new place and has a nice atmosphere. And of course specializes in thai dishes. I can’t believe that name was thought up by a Filipino..Did not think they had that much creativity..lol.. Only drawback is that it seems like all their offerings are good for 2 or 4 people..I was there alone one night and asked the waitress if I could just get one serving. Of course that blew her mind and she scurried back to ask someone and came back saying no.. So I asked her if she could join me for dinner. ( don’t hurt to try right ?) More giggles from her but I ate alone. I asked for a take out bag and gave what was left to a street person so it would not be wasted.. Good karma I am thinking.

Bars
I am not a bar person and prefer to meet DIA chat mates even if the success ratio is not 100% but I do stop at a little hole in the wall place called AnnAnn”s which is on a street close to Mc Donalds. The owners are a husband and wife who are nice and friendly. Seems there is always one or two expats there having a san mig so nice place to talk and see what info they can tell you. There you can also watch the ladies of the evening on the street corner but they seem to be too old and worn for me.

My 16th trip to Phil for four weeks starts tomorrow so as Peter, Paul and Mary ( if you know who they are you’re an old fart just like me) used to sing “ My bags are packed ,I’m ready to go “

Anyone in Puerto Galera in October? Be glad to meet for drinks and to share stories. Just PM.

YM

hopefully this will serve as a complete guide for those of you looking to spend time in boracay. i have spent more than 30 days there over the past couple of years. one of my buddies spent the entire summer there in 2010, so i got a lot of this info from him.

boracay is a very small island. there are almost no cars on the island and most of the transport is done with trikes. there is one main road on the island that runs from one end to the other. most commonly people walk to the beach and follow the path in front of the beach to go everywhere. you do not have to know how to get anywhere, you just tell the trike driver where you want go and he will take you. the center point of the island is a place called d'mall. it is a small pedestrian mall in the middle of the action that leads from the main road to the beach. boracay is organized by location of the beach you are on. these different locations are numbered "boat station 1-4" (maybe less or more than 4). the center of everything is boat station 2. so when booking a hotel try to find something in station 2. the other beaches have names, these are on the other parts of the island and farther away from the action. i would advise against staying anywhere that you have to take a trike just to get to the beach!

the attitude of boracay is a lazy and friendly beach atmosphere. the filipinos here are very smart, educated and friendly. they understand that foreigners are there to have a good time and to meet women. they will all welcome you and are easy to make friends with. the most popular activity on boracay is kite boarding. basically surfing while being pulled by a parachute. because of this people come form all over the world to kiteboard and party. keep this in mind when you are out and about because most of the foreigners are there for the day time activity rather than the p4p scene.

bars:

the most well known p4p place is cocomangos. it is on the main road 5-10 minute trike ride from d mall. cocomangos is a loud and dirty dance bar. all the p4p women in boracay will definitely make an appearance here. this place does not usually get going until after 10 pm and sometimes later. there are every size and shape of women here, ranging from model quality to fat old ladies. do not assume that a girl is a p4p girl, but do not assume that she is unattainable. if you see something you like you must give it a shot to know for sure.

perar - this is directly across the road from cocomangos. it is a really cool and friendly dance type club. the floor is covered with sand and the back of the bar opens on to the beach. the tables are set up like big hard beds, with lots of pillows. you are meant to sit on the beds with a small table in front of you to eat and drink from. i guess the idea is persian kind of a harem feel, hence the name. a lot of the p4p girls from across the road will come here at some point in the night because the music is good and the mood is fun.

juice bar - this is located on the beach at boat station 2. they play loud dance music and have a very friendly atmosphere. it is easy to meet people here and get to know the locals and other travelers. this is a later place and does not get going until after midnight.

hey jude - this is a local hang out type of bar, they play casual music. it is very small and relaxed. kind of a neighborhood pub type of feel. it is very cheap and a comfortable place to hang out. in a magazine i read on the airplane most of the rich and famous from manila named this as the bar they like the most.

something else worth mentioning is there are a lot of women who walk up and down the beach after dark offering services to men. some of these women might be ok, while a lot of them are ladyboys. basically these are the boracay version of streetwalkers. beware that some of them are ladyboys, **** or any other kind of trouble!

massage parlors - there are a lot of massage parlors in boracay. from my knowledge none of them offer extra services.

to sum all of this up: if you are looking for a woman go to cocomangos or perar. if you have a woman and want to party with her go to juice bar or hey jude. if you are looking for an ac type of atmosphere with a beach than boracay is not for you, but if you want to have a beautiful beach with the chance for some p4p you should be able to find it in boracay.

restaurants:

aria - italian this is at the end of d'mall where it meets the beach. excellent food, opened almost all of the time and a great place to sit on the beach and watch the women walk by.

jammers - this is a little sandwich type place right on the beach to the left of d'mall as you approach the beach. they have very good, hamburgers, sandwiches and everything simple. the food is fast, high quality and cheap. there specialty is buka shake. which is a shake made from fresh coconut. you must try it, you have not been to boracay until you have had a buka shake!

kasbah - this is very far down the beach and very difficult to find. they serve middle eastern food. i am not middle eastern and have never been to the middle east but they have some of the best food here i have had anywhere on the planet. it is small and quiet and very reasonably priced. they serve a stewed lamb that is out of this world.

cyma - this is a greek restaurant that is on d'mall. the food is fresh and unique. good prices and excellent quality. just ask people on d'mall how to find it.

just about all of the restaurants on d'mall will have good food. so you should not be disappointed anywhere you go. some of the places on the beach have fresh seafood and will grill it while you wait.

hotels:

there are a huge number of hotels to choose from some of the nicer ones like the shangri la will cost as much as $300 per night. and the quality will definitely match. but for the best deals on mid-price hotels check agoda and find something near boat station 2. a mid range hotel i can recommend is the tides. they will run @ $100 per night. it is very nice with a great location.

also i have checked out the red coconut. it is located on the beach right in front of d'mall. if you are going for a longer time i would book a couple of days in a hotel and spend some time finding a nice apartment that you can rent by the week or month.

hopefully this will give you enough info to get thru your first couple of days. the most important thing i can say is boracay is hit or miss when it comes to women. i was there in may and june and it was full of women. when i went back in july it was like a ghost town. i would recommend the old filipino insurance policy. go there by yourself for 2-3 days. if you don’t find anything you like then call up the all star you met in manila or ac and fly her in. boracays reputation is so huge with filipino people that they will do almost anything to get there. the two women i have taken there in the past were so turned on and horny to be there that they fucked me senseless. the prices to travel and stay in boracay are so far out of the average filipinos price range that they could never go on their own….so you have a huge incentive to dangle for any girl you might consider taking with you!

if you have other questions not covered here, post them or pm me.

day 7: puerto galera

the trip to puerto galera was easier than expected. a two hour bus-ride to batangas was followed by a short ferry trip to mindoro. the ferry landed on the beach at sabang, so i collected my luggage and found a good room at sonny's inn for 1300 pesos a night. it was large with a separate kitchen and a balcony with a sea-view.

sabang is a small town within a scenic bay, visited mainly by divers who go on boat-trips to the surrounding islands. there is a narrow walkway stretching along the beach from which all of the restaurants, bars, shops and hotels are accessed. surprisingly given the size and ambience of the place, there are also half a dozen gogo bars (called 'discos' here).

after a leisurely walk, i breathed in the fresh air and decided that sabang was exactly what i needed. i dropped off some laundry and then ate a spicy sea-food dish at eddie's. it was so spicy i had to hastily order a few bottles of sprite and gulp them down. once my mouth had cooled down, i went to see what sabang had to offer in the way of nightlife.

the first gogo i went to was pink panther. only two girls were dancing and before i had even taken a sip from my beer, i was joined by a girl called denise. as much as i sometimes like a bit of flesh on the bone, there's a fine line between 'curvy' and 'chubby' and this girl had crossed it. she was a nice girl though so i bought her a drink. there were 15 girls rep001tered around the bar, including a few i liked the look of. i watched a girl do a spectacular solo dance routine that included doing the splits. given my injury, just watcing made my eyes water! the bar-fine here was 1000 pesos with a further 1000 pesos going to the girl.

after a few drinks i walked the short distance to sabang disco. it was darker with stools surrounding a long stage. again only two or three were dancing but there were probably about 20 dotted around the perimeter, trying to latch on to customers. soon i was clinking bottles with a pretty girl called lin, who had dark curly hair and a nice face. she was a real sweetheart and definitely the type of girl i would consider bar-fining, if i was fit to do so. i also had fun with a group of four girls sat opposite. one of them was leaning against her hand looking bored, so i mimicked her, much to her (and her friends) amusement. there were some nice girls in here, including one babe with a killer body who compared favourably to most i had seen in angeles.

as much as i love visiting gogo bars, it just isn't the same when you subtract the thrill of wondering who you will end up fucking. it was about midnight so i decided to head back to my hotel for an early night. i felt happily buzzed from half a dozen san miguel beers as i walked along the beach back to my room.


day 8: puerto galera

switching effortlessly in to 'tourist mode', i decided to spend the day on a boat trip. i chartered a small boat but told the owner that i needed to get breakfast first so i'd be back in fifteen minutes. i went to eddies and ordered 'french toast & coffee' from the menu. the french toast arrived with honey, so i polished that off, but where was the coffee? it was taking too long so i went to pay the bill but noticed that it was for the full amount. i politely pointed out to the waitress that i didn't get any coffee but she got shirty and told me that i had to pay the full amount. ordinarily i might have argued my case, perhaps suggesting that i could get a free coffee on my next visit, but i was in a relaxed frame of mind and didn't want any negativity. i also didn't want to waste time quibbling over a few pesos when i was in a rush to go on a boat trip.

i spent the day exploring the islands, swimming in the warm water and sunbathing on a nearby beach. i could get used to being a tourist! there were also encouraging signs that my injury was getting better, as the bruising felt less sore. maybe it was the sea air or the relaxed vibes, or maybe even good karma after my good deed in manila? whatever the reason, i was excited that in a few days i would be shagging pretty filipino girls again. i found an internet cafe and booked a flight to cebu. no rest for the wicked.

that night i ate at a sea-food restaurant overlooking the bay. although sabang is a divers resort, there were two old gents, eating on their own, taking a keen interest in the passing 'traffic' on the beach. when i paid my bill, i made sure i told the manager how friendly and attentive the two young waitresses had been. as i was doing so, a cigarette promo girl walked past who was undoubtedly the prettiest girl i had seen on the trip so far (even beating 'miss perfect', which is quite a feat given her name). she was wearing a cowboy hat and see-through sari with white underwear beneath. she had a 'wow' face and a 'wow' body too - a definite 10/10 girl. i felt a stirring in my pants, which pleasingly wasn't followed by a sharp pain - my groin injury was getting better. :)

it was gogo time. i opted to visit philippine village first. there were more girls than the bars i visited the night before, with six dancing on stage and lots more on the sidelines. a pretty young girl called ella sat beside me and whispered in my ear "you are gwapo" (handsome). she had braces on her teeth, a cute appeal and large boobs hidden away beneath an unflattering dress. when it was her turn to dance, some of the other girls laughed at her attempts at dancing sexily. this told me that she was new to the bar... in other words, just my kind of girl. i considered bar-fining her, but decided against it. it was maybe a day too soon to resume my sexual escapades and i didn't want to jeopardise the cebu leg of my tour. it was a shame, ella was extremely fuckable.

all of sabang's gogos are close to each other. next i went to venus which had plenty of girls, although only three were dancing. i was joined by a dark-skinned beauty called lorraine, who minutes earlier had been doing splits on the stage. my mind raced, wondering what fun i could have back in my hotel room with someone so supple. she had a gorgeous face and what thommo might describe as 'slutty eyes'. i bought her a drink and discovered that the bar-fine here, like other places in sabang, was 1000 pesos with a further 1000 going to the girl. fair prices i think, given the talent that can be found. lorraine introduced me to her friend, who was a 6/10 but one of those girls whose boobs you just want to bury your face in to. the sexiest girl though was sat nearby, with smouldering dark eyes and a stunning face. venus definitely has some talent.

i decided that it was time to go back to my hotel to get some sleep. i had only been to two bars but i saw at least three beauties who i would bar-fine quicker than you could say "drink for the lady, sir?". the gogo scene in sabang may be much smaller than manila and angeles (maybe half a dozen bars), but there are some pretty girls to be found. in fact, if you're looking for somewhere nice to escape manila or angeles for a few days, where you can breathe fresh air and pretend to be a tourist for a while, sabang is definitely a viable option, with good looking girls to be found at cheap prices (p2000, all in).

as for freelancers, i think you can forget eddies. i walked past there probably a dozen times and only once did i see an unaccompanied filipino girl, and she was probably in her 40's. apparently the venue (above venus) is a popular disco, especially when the gogos close, but i didn't actually go inside myself. near the gogos are numerous massage places which stay open till late. there are lots of girls sat outside and given some of the cheeky comments i received, i'm sure that 'extras' could be negotiated.

all in all, puerto galera had been a nice surprise.

[QUOTE=Devils 1]Hopefully this will serve as a complete guide for those of you looking to spend time in boracay. I have spent more than 30 days there over the past couple of years. One of my buddies spent the entire summer there in 2010, so I got a lot of this info from him.

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Thanks Devils 1 for the great info and location advice on Boracay.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot]DAY 7: Puerto Galera

The trip to Puerto Galera was easier than expected. A two hour bus-ride to Batangas was followed by a short ferry trip to Mindoro. The ferry landed on the beach at Sabang, so I collected my luggage and found a good room at Sonny's Inn for 1300 pesos a night. It was large with a separate kitchen and a balcony with a sea-view.

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Great Report lance...looking forward to your trip in Cebu :)

Sir Lancelot,

Thanks for your tripreports. I really love reading them. They are written very well and if they would be printed in a book, it would be a "page turner" for sure. Also, your tripreports contains some information, but not that much.

Is it possible to post some information here?
- About the bus companies for a ride from Manila to Batangas City.
- About the ferry between Batangas City and Puerto Galera.
- Hotels and resorts you can advice.
- The costs of all this.
- Any other information is also very welcome.

Many thanks in advance...

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot]DAY 7: Puerto Galera

The trip to Puerto Galera was easier than expected. A two hour bus-ride to Batangas was followed by a short ferry trip to Mindoro. The ferry landed on the beach at Sabang, so I collected my luggage and found a good room at Sonny's Inn for 1300 pesos a night. It was large with a separate kitchen and a balcony with a sea-view.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Brastrav]Sir Lancelot,

Thanks for your tripreports. I really love reading them. They are written very well and if they would be printed in a book, it would be a "page turner" for sure. Also, your tripreports contains some information, but not that much.

Is it possible to post some information here?
- About the bus companies for a ride from Manila to Batangas City.
- About the ferry between Batangas City and Puerto Galera.
- Hotels and resorts you can advice.
- The costs of all this.
- Any other information is also very welcome.

Many thanks in advance...[/QUOTE]Aside from being admonished to RTFF, or to stop being a lazy fuck and do your own online research, a good guide book is well worthwhile.

My bible is titled "Philippines Travel Guide". It's translated from German. Authour is Jens Peters. Ask for it at any National Book Store

Location. If they don't have it, ask them to use the computer to find you a copy. A bargain at about 1200 pisos.

[QUOTE=Starchild2012]Great Report lance...looking forward to your trip in Cebu :)[/QUOTE]

Sir Lancelot,
Can you ensure your reports are up-dated trip reports though.
Many of us here have already read yours and Thommo's reports on Whorist.com so please don't just cut and paste reports from 2008 - 2009.
I am sure I read about the damaged groin at least 18 months ago on whorist.com.
And the report containing exploits in LA Cafe was written way before it was closed down earlier this year.

Always great to get new and updated reports but we don't really need out-dated ones.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Sir Lancelot,

Can you ensure your reports are up-dated trip reports though.

Many of us here have already read yours and Thommo's reports on Whorist.com so please don't just cut and paste reports from 2008. 2009.

I am sure I read about the damaged groin at least 18 months ago on whorist.com.

And the report containing exploits in LA Cafe was written way before it was closed down earlier this year.

Always great to get new and updated reports but we don't really need out-dated ones.[/QUOTE]Hello. Apologies that my diary is a little out-of-date. I wrote it for another website but it's only recently that I've become a member on this site.

However, it wasn't copied and pasted from 2008/09. It was actually written in March and April this year. So although LA Cafe has since closed (and re-opened in another guise?) I thought a lot of the information was still relevant and prices still fairly accurate. Also, since it was my first trip to Philippines, I thought it might be quite interesting for other first-timers to read.

Also, not that you've suggested otherwise, I can assure you that it was written by me. I shall post photos at a later date that were never published on whorist.com.

Thanks for your feedback though. Still trying to get the hang of this forum!

[QUOTE=Brastrav]Sir Lancelot,

Thanks for your tripreports. I really love reading them. They are written very well and if they would be printed in a book, it would be a "page turner" for sure. Also, your tripreports contains some information, but not that much.

Is it possible to post some information here?
- About the bus companies for a ride from Manila to Batangas City.
- About the ferry between Batangas City and Puerto Galera.
- Hotels and resorts you can advice.
- The costs of all this.
- Any other information is also very welcome.

Many thanks in advance...[/QUOTE]Firstly, many thanks for your compliment. On the advice of a few people, I've actually turned all of my diaries (2 x Thailand, 1 x Phils) in to pdf diaries, including all of the photos. I'm still trying to work out this site but may post a link in the classified section.

In answer to your questions:

- I got an ALPS bus from Manila to Batangas. Unlike Bangkok for example, Manila doesn't have a central bus-station, instead lots of private operators. ALPS is based very close to Intramuros. It took three hours and is a pretty enjoyable trip once you leave the mayhem of Manila. I'm afraid I can't recall the price but it was pretty cheap.

- Similarly I can't recall the cost of the ferry from Batangas to Sabang but it took about an hour. It pulls up right on the beach and you can walk to any of the hotels. The boat stops right next to 'Eddies bar and restaurant' and the hotel I chose to stay at, Sabang Beach Hotel, is to the left, a three minute walk down. Rooms cost 1300 baht and were really spacious and clean with a separate kitchen area and balcony. I'd definitely recommend it.

- As I said in my report, I think Sabang is a nice balance of tourism and girlie action. The talent of girls was impressive at the gogo bars and the prices not too inflated (refreshing considering it's a touristy places). My favourite bar was Venus. It seemed to be the busiest with the most girls and the prettiest ones too. However, all of the gogo bars (called Disco's in Sabang) are very close to each other, so just go for a bit of a bar-crawl, have a few drinks and enjoy yourself!

Anyone have up to date report of experience of puerto galera area?

i appreciate Sir Lancelots , however a couple years old.

Hotel with nice beach in front and not noisey with street noise or boats?

Prices?

Cheers

[QUOTE=Vandaddio]Anyone have up to date report of experience of puerto galera area?

i appreciate Sir Lancelots , however a couple years old.

Hotel with nice beach in front and not noisey with street noise or boats?

Prices?

Cheers[/QUOTE]I assure you that my report is not a couple of years old. Red Kilt got his dates mixed up, the part when I was in Puerto Galera was written at the end of March THIS YEAR.

In answer to your question, if you're staying in Sabang, once you jump off the ferry, turn left and there are lots of nice hotels within a five minute walk of the main action area. Some have swimming pools and it's quite peaceful at that end of the beach. My room cost 1300 baht per night (see below) and was really spacious with it's own balcony. There are plenty of hotels - you don't even need to book in advance - just turn up, try one you like the look of and if they don't have any vacancies, move on to the next one.

Enjoy your trip.

Thank you Sir Lancelot.

And I do intend to, hehehe.

Huh?

"if you're staying in Sabang, once you jump off the ferry, turn left and there are lots of nice hotels within a five minute walk of the main action area. "

You mean the ferry now goes directly to the beach??? It's been many years but my recollection is a ferry from Batangas Pier to Puerto Galera port town, and then a rough, sometimes muddy ride thru the jungle, over a hill, and on to the other side of the island to the Sabang area. Jeepney gets stuck in the mud...guess who gets to push the damn thing out.

I think there were three beaches, and at least one required wading thru ocean surf if it was high tide.

Of course you can always hire a private boat to get around, possibly even from the port. The Verdes passage is sometimes rough, on my one and only trip the ferry was delayed because of rough water.

Oh, and I remember high intensity sales people on the ferry trying to get you into certain hotels.

X

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot]I assure you that my report is not a couple of years old. Red Kilt got his dates mixed up, the part when I was in Puerto Galera was written at the end of March THIS YEAR.

In answer to your question, if you're staying in Sabang, once you jump off the ferry, turn left and there are lots of nice hotels within a five minute walk of the main action area. Some have swimming pools and it's quite peaceful at that end of the beach. My room cost 1300 baht per night (see below) and was really spacious with it's own balcony. There are plenty of hotels - you don't even need to book in advance - just turn up, try one you like the look of and if they don't have any vacancies, move on to the next one.

Enjoy your trip.[/QUOTE]

How many ATMchines in Sabang and Puerto Galera area?

Or is it cash and carry kinda place?

[QUOTE=X Man]You mean the ferry now goes directly to the beach??? It's been many years but my recollection is a ferry from Batangas Pier to Puerto Galera port town, and then a rough, sometimes muddy ride thru the jungle, over a hill, and on to the other side of the island to the Sabang area. Jeepney gets stuck in the mud...guess who gets to push the damn thing out.

X[/QUOTE]Yeah, I got a ferry from the ticket office in Batangas and it took me directly to the beach in Sabang. I did specify Sabang when I bought the ticket though, not Puerto Galera. It wasn't some kind of arrangement with a privately hired boat either - it was a large boat with probably 40 people on it, including tourists and Filipino families.

It pulled right up on the beach, in front of Eddies - couldn't be more convenient. Of course the problem with this (as you alluded to) is that you get mobbed with touts for the hotels on your arrival. I just walked past them and said "I have hotel, thank you".

Well that is interesting! Things do change.

As for touts, I remember they hounded people on the ferry for the entire trip - back in the day.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot]Yeah, I got a ferry from the ticket office in Batangas and it took me directly to the beach in Sabang. I did specify Sabang when I bought the ticket though, not Puerto Galera. It wasn't some kind of arrangement with a privately hired boat either - it was a large boat with probably 40 people on it, including tourists and Filipino families.

It pulled right up on the beach, in front of Eddies - couldn't be more convenient. Of course the problem with this (as you alluded to) is that you get mobbed with touts for the hotels on your arrival. I just walked past them and said "I have hotel, thank you".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man]Well that is interesting! Things do change.

As for touts, I remember they hounded people on the ferry for the entire trip - back in the day.[/QUOTE]As I wrote in my diary, I think Sabang is a worthwhile 'escape' from the mayhem of Manila, or Angeles. It's not far away, has a nice ambience, good food and there are some interesting diversions for beginners like me who like to dilute their whorism with a bit of tourism :).

But what surprised me was that the girlie scene was more than adequate too (so long as you like gogos). It's not a huge scene but there are enough places to keep you entertained for, say, three nights. I saw some really pretty girls and the prices were reasonable too.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot]Yeah, I got a ferry from the ticket office in Batangas and it took me directly to the beach in Sabang. I did specify Sabang when I bought the ticket though, not Puerto Galera. It wasn't some kind of arrangement with a privately hired boat either - it was a large boat with probably 40 people on it, including tourists and Filipino families. [/QUOTE]Those are the banca's with outriggers. Actually, if you get a trip through swagman, the guide has a book with all the hotels with pictures, so you can choose

Alternate, choose big apple dive, or a refined place. Portofino (google) the manager of Portofino. Chuck is a very hospitable guy.

Avoid "Oriental Hill resort" as you really need to walk up a long flight of stairs. More or less, the hotel is visible on the left side of the beach when you reaching the white beach.

[QUOTE=Vandaddio]How many ATMchines in Sabang and Puerto Galera area?

Or is it cash and carry kinda place?[/QUOTE]You are kidding mate? ATM and PG don't go in the same sentence.

It is cash and carry, and only in the PG town proper I heard there is an ATM but never saw it.

The Sabang Beach area is like more than a wee distance away. Better to stick to card for payments (they do whack the 5% surcharge) and carry US$ or Euro. There are enough money changers, but I would be vary to change large amounts of money.

[QUOTE=Vandaddio]How many ATMchines in Sabang and Puerto Galera area?

Or is it cash and carry kinda place?[/QUOTE]I think its more cash and carry. But I did hear of an atm off the muelle area of Puerto Galera?

Not sure I have heard sometimes guys go back and forth to batangas to use an atm? But then afriend told me that he had used an atm in puerto galera. Walking into the town(or main street from the pier (muelle? Not sure of spelling)

I have been to Puerto Galera (PG) many times as I am a diver and that area is a popular scuba diving destination. Unlike most scuba diving destinations where the night life is really quiet after 10PM, there is the tiny village of Sabang..and banging is easy to do. There are about 7 discos which are GoGo bars with mamsans & such. As of last year 2009 the bar fine was 1000 PHP. There are quite a few cute girsl but beware of the Koreans who come in masses and can clean a place out early. A lot of them stay at this massive place built into a cliff about a 15 minute walk down the beach from the village. I usually stay at a dive place on Small Laguna Beach about a 7 minute walk to the Sabang discos. You don't have to stay in the village. If you are walking with a lady home along the beach at night bring a pocket flashlight to make your life easier as you will probably be half hammered as well. Getting there form Manila is easy. Check out [url]http://si-katferrybus.com/schedules_rates.php[/url]. They have a bus service that the leavesCity State Tower, Mabini St., Ermita, Manila every morning and icludes the ferry trip for 700 PHP each way. Stay at the hotel for a night and have fun at the LA Cafe (Now Manila Cafe) a few blocks away.

Hope everyone remains safe during this huge typhoon Juan that is going slam the coast tonight.

Stay out of the boats until the seas calm down.

[QUOTE=Horn Dog7]If you are walking with a lady home along the beach at night bring a pocket flashlight to make your life easier as you will probably be half hammered as well. [/QUOTE]As I did find out - I had to wade in almost knee deep water, when I was coming back from Portofina -Small Laguna - and the tide was rising.

I will be taking my Filipina gf who is located in Ac at the moment to possibly Palawan or another nice place for 2-weeks in December. If you have been to Palawan can you give me some insight to where to stay or what to expect there?

Are there other nice secluded beach and island places to visit instead that you would suggest?

Also is it better to fly out of Manila than AC to get to theses places in terms of airfare cost?

I would like to hangout at a nice slow paced area with nice comforts close to the everyday life in the area.

[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]I will be taking my Filipina gf who is located in Ac at the moment to possibly Palawan or another nice place for 2-weeks in December. If you have been to Palawan can you give me some insight to where to stay or what to expect there?

Are there other nice secluded beach and island places to visit instead that you would suggest?

Also is it better to fly out of Manila than AC to get to theses places in terms of airfare cost?

I would like to hangout at a nice slow paced area with nice comforts close to the everyday life in the area.[/QUOTE]Definitely fly out of Manila. Either to Puerta Princessa, or to El Nido.

I doubt that any flights go to Palawan from A C.

In terms of being close to a nice hangout place, El Nido would be best.

Spectacular scenery, a wide range of resorts, from cheap and cheerful up to international standards and prices.

For sure, do some online research for lots of good info. I also suggest looking at 'Trip Advisor' for accommodation options.

I spent over a week island hopping and snorkeling in the nearby Bacuit Archipelago. Absolutely one of the world's great destinations !

What is a better area for a older guy who wants a deluxe quality beach bungalow, with air con and sat t/v and wifi? White beach/sabang/or others.

I, m not into disco but a taxi ride to score a over nighter in sabang bar a few times a week is in the plan. But I like variety in resturants so not a isolated resort. I was just going to go to sabang, and then look around, but after searching a bit white beach looks okay also. But not sure how far from the action in taxi?

Mongers,

Spent a two day / night ride in Sabang last week. The majority of SirLancelot's report rings true. However, here's a couple of things to update.

High season is considered November-March-ish, so the hotel rates go up but the p4p rates don't. However, this also means a lot more mongers in the gogo bars, where 90% of the action is. FL can be found, or should I say will find you if you wander around long enough. Beware though that these girls either just got fired from the last gogo bar she worked at or can't get a gig at the bar. So trust 'them at your own peril. Met an adorable (busty, slightly chubby) FL w/ DSL while parked at Eddie's for a break from the bars. Woulda coulda shoulda on that one. Still kicking myself for being a good boy.

Getting there is not as bad as it sounds (Si-Kat is at least semi-organized about it. They'll get you there, eventually) but to soften the pain, try to go on an off-traffic day, like Sunday. And stay for more than one day, make it like three or four, that way the four-hour trip doesn't seem so awful. Be advised that they tell you the boat is leaving at 11:15 but they don't leave until they have enough passengers to justify a trip. So get the pesky touts off your back by splurging for a bag of San Miguel and put your feet up. Plenty of beaver in this place to keep all but the extremely spoiled and choosy monger occupied, more on that in a minute. Bus leaves at 8:00 am from Citystate, which is a shit hotel in my opinion unless you get a room above the 6th floor. Fucking hate that place. City Garden Suites just down the street is way way way better for about the same money. Or be cheap. Whatever, I don't care how you spend your money. Just a heads up.

Around 7:00 pm the bars get rolling. The Korean Subject. Yes, they're pretty prominent (even during off-season), and yes, they're. Um. Not the kind of people I would prefer to spend any of my time near or around, but they generally keep to themselves and double-yes, they are the first mongers in the joint. These clowns throw money around and assume macho poses. Whatever. Ignore them and they'll reciprocate. Actually had a couple of guys in their mind-20s try to chat me up, asking about PG town. Sorry kids, can't help ya there. Interesting little scene happened first night. I took a stroll down the eastern side of the beach (toward Sonny's), which is the other "Korean area" in town, where they play pool in the bars and karaoke and whatever it is they do. On the way down, I spied a group of guys with their WGs and it appeared one of the girls was really getting into it with the Korean guy. Everybody was standing up and the K-guy was yelling in Korean. So I beat a loop back to Eddie's, rightly thinking I wanted no part of what was going down. I had just stepped up to Eddie's when a pack of shirtless local guys came screaming down from the west end of the beach, headed toward Sonny's. Then another wave of 'them came. These dudes were fucking flying, man. Serious shit going down with the Ks, for sure. I posted up and had a beer and waiting for word on what was going down. Then a couple of serious-looking local dudes cruised down that way. Twenty minutes later, the FL I mentioned earlier came in and gave me the scoop. Apparently the K-guy had insulted the girl, she tossed a beer on him, he broke a bottle and managed to cut her leg (how the fuck that happened, I have no idea), she got on her cell and called her local boy and to wrap it all up, no punches were thrown and the matter was settled amicably by the local chiefs.

OK. The WGs. At the time I was there, they outnumbered mongers by 30-1. No joke. The discos packed with 18-25 y/o girls on stage, lining the bar. Range: 6 to 9s, depending upon taste. Lots of 8s with great attitudes. 1000 bf, 1000 to the WG. Spinners, stunners, divas. From every corner of SE Asia. However. A lot of them don't look very happy to be there. There isn't a lot of the party atmosphere you find at EDSA (Pitstop, especially fun). Lady drinks are reasonable in Sabang, like 100 php. The gogo joint have more of a shopping experience. Get in, find one, get out. Then take her to one of the diver bars down the alley and relax.

For the record, over two nights I did not partake due to the fact that I have a gf in Manila and she's all I need. However, my travel companion did partake on several occasions and he gave sparking review on overall service.

Stayed at Steps and Garden, which is up the hill about two minutes and far enough away from the noise that you can sleep. Kind of a primitive cottage but 1500 php a night. Tried for one of the upgrades (2200 php) but they were booked. The Mermaid looked awesome. Had dinner and a swim there. Shoulda stayed there, too. Atlantis is top notch, but pricey.

There is one major drawback to all of Sabang and that is the construction noise from the new resorts they're putting up on the hill. If you need day-sleep, bring ear plugs. The hammering goes non-stop from 8:00 am to noon, picks up again at 1:00 and stops at 5:00.

Overall, it's a great place to monger as long as you don't mind Koreans or scuba diving Europeans who start drinking beer with breakfast.

Shark San, excellent report. I was there in January with my soon to be ex-fiancee, and when we stopped into a couple of the discos one night, we saw pretty much what you saw. A lot of 6's to 9's, and not a huge party atmosphere.

Vandaddio, if you're looking to pay up for quality, the El Galleon Resort around the corner from Sabang Beach has resort rooms around the pool, but also has expensive studio apartments built into the hillside above, with wi-fi and great sea views. You're not going to see taxis in the Sabang area. There is only one road near the beach that is parallel to the shoreline, and it ends pretty quickly and becomes a pathway after only 200 meters or so. Many of the rooms right on Sabang Beach itself are private homestays rather than being full-service hotels or resorts. El Galleon and other resorts are probably more what you're looking for, and they are located around the headland from Sabang on Small La Laguna Beach, about a ten-minute walk. The beach is also a little better than Sabang's. Further along past Small La Laguna Beach is Big La Laguna Beach, but I'm not familiar with their resorts. There are also a few resorts on a couple of the islands located between Sabang and White Beach. Again, not familiar with their prices or quality.

[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]I will be taking my Filipina gf who is located in Ac at the moment to possibly Palawan or another nice place for 2-weeks in December. If you have been to Palawan can you give me some insight to where to stay or what to expect there?

Are there other nice secluded beach and island places to visit instead that you would suggest?

Also is it better to fly out of Manila than AC to get to theses places in terms of airfare cost?

I would like to hangout at a nice slow paced area with nice comforts close to the everyday life in the area.[/QUOTE]Sea Air had flights out of Clark to Palawan, check their site.

Alternate, check the resorts, and they bundle the fligths. Check Lally and Abeth - and Palawan has a lot of nice places - though time between each place can be a day by road, or almost 5,000 p or more by flight

Or stick to El Nido - go by Busuanga ..

I been to Palawan, spent most time on PP, and then took a day tour to Underground River, and then another tour to the Dos Palmas Resort - and then spent a couple of days in the Laly and Abeth resort - which was like about few hour road trip (forgot - about a day I think .. )

Flying to Peurto Princesca PP - is cheapest - as there are flight by PR and 5J - other places cost you an arm an a length - if you got time, head to PP, and then do the road trip to El Nido - even though you spend a day on road, it is much much cheaper to rent your own van compared to flying in to El Nido from Manila

Updated FR on Boracay.

Just spent a few days in Boracay just in time for f**king Typhoon Megi to hit the PI. Although Boracay was not a direct hit, the super storm was so huge that it caused heavy bands of wind and rain every day I was there. Some flights were canceled also because it was unsafe to land at both Caticlan or Kalibo airports. Talk about surfs up. The usual calm seas off white beach looked more like the Hawaiian surfing championship. Waves were topping well over 5 ft.
All the usual tourist boats anchored on White Beach were forced to leave for shelter.
Needless to say, not much to do at all as even the all day cheap beach beer stalls all packed up. Had to wait until later when evening happy hrs at some of the bars were open.

Action in Boracay:

I have not seen any FL on the beach itself and I think most if not all so called FL by the beach are LBs. The LBs line the beach between station 1-3. There MO is to stay in the dark areas in the shadows and try to get your attention as you walk by.

Cocomangas disco starts around 10pm with a few FL available. No need to go into disco to see what's on the menu. Simply stand outside and the bar will be right in front of you. The 1st row at the bar (which is the row next to you as you look in) is where all the FL sit. Can't say there are too many of them, on the best night I counted about 10-12 and only 2 that I would even consider talking to.
Note: most of the ladies you see here are NOT for sale as most are tourist and some are locals with there friends and boyfriends out for a night of dancing, so thread lightly.

Across the street is another disco called Guilly's Island. Sign outside said 100p cover charge but it is not enforced as I was never charged anytime I went. place is more popular with tourist and locals alike as the sound system and dance music is better. Less FL here but still maybe about 5-6 hang out here, Again, look no further than the bar to find the few FL.
Again most ladies here are NOT FL. and also beware that at both discos, there were more LBs here than regular FL so choose wisely.

Both places start winding down about 1am and almost all the FL not picked up will head to another dance place on the beach called The Summer Place. This is located next to D'Mall.

Can't comment on the rest of Boracay as I don't know what else to report as the blasted Typhoon kept me indoors most of the day so best to read Devil 1 report on Boracay to fill in the rest.

The only last thought I have is that Boracay could possibly be the safest place in all of PI. Its safe here to walk anywhere and at anytime day or night and walk down dark alleys (and I do mean dark as some alleys leaving the main road to the beach are pitch black and need to bring a flashlight just to see where you are going.

I'll report more if I ever make it to the waters.

Shark

Other than Dumaguete, it's been a long time since we've received reports from other parts of Negros or Panay. Both KongKing and I reported on Bacolod a while ago. If you are interested in seeing what's on the other side of the fence, then there's a lot more to P I then the regular destinations. I'm considering a trip to Iloilo on Panay after my next visit to Negros. Would be great to get some reports from there and any other places further afield.

C'mon guys, let's also get these alternate destinations in the spotlight. There's a lot of fertile ground out there just waiting to be 'plowed'.

Just got back from Sabang. Stayed 4 days with a Manila GF and agree that 3/4 nights is about the max stay. If you do go alone or with a wingman, be sure to go out to the "Floating Bar" in the afternoons. The Broadway Bikini Bar girls like to hang out there looking for extra cash or a temporary BF. Also, some young ladies were out there, but be aware a few looked a little too young.

Stayed at Sha Che Inn at Little Laguna Beach (200 meters from Sabang center). Payed 1200p for large oceanfront with kitchen. Much quieter and more relaxed than Sabang centro.

Enjoy,

Cheapy

[QUOTE=Shark San]Mongers,

Spent a two day / night ride in Sabang last week. The majority of SirLancelot's report rings true. However, here's a couple of things to update.

High season is considered November-March-ish, so the hotel rates go up but the p4p rates don't. However, this also means a lot more mongers in the gogo bars, where 90% of the action is. FL can be found, or should I say will find you if you wander around long enough. Beware though that these girls either just got fired from the last gogo bar she worked at or can't get a gig at the bar. So trust 'them at your own peril. Met an adorable (busty, slightly chubby) FL w/ DSL while parked at Eddie's for a break from the bars. Woulda coulda shoulda on that one. Still kicking myself for being a good boy.

Getting there is not as bad as it sounds (Si-Kat is at least semi-organized about it. They'll get you there, eventually) but to soften the pain, try to go on an off-traffic day, like Sunday. And stay for more than one day, make it like three or four, that way the four-hour trip doesn't seem so awful. Be advised that they tell you the boat is leaving at 11:15 but they don't leave until they have enough passengers to justify a trip. So get the pesky touts off your back by splurging for a bag of San Miguel and put your feet up. Plenty of beaver in this place to keep all but the extremely spoiled and choosy monger occupied, more on that in a minute. Bus leaves at 8:00 am from Citystate, which is a shit hotel in my opinion unless you get a room above the 6th floor. Fucking hate that place. City Garden Suites just down the street is way way way better for about the same money. Or be cheap. Whatever, I don't care how you spend your money. Just a heads up.

Around 7:00 pm the bars get rolling. The Korean Subject. Yes, they're pretty prominent (even during off-season), and yes, they're. Um. Not the kind of people I would prefer to spend any of my time near or around, but they generally keep to themselves and double-yes, they are the first mongers in the joint. These clowns throw money around and assume macho poses. Whatever. Ignore them and they'll reciprocate. Actually had a couple of guys in their mind-20s try to chat me up, asking about PG town. Sorry kids, can't help ya there. Interesting little scene happened first night. I took a stroll down the eastern side of the beach (toward Sonny's), which is the other "Korean area" in town, where they play pool in the bars and karaoke and whatever it is they do. On the way down, I spied a group of guys with their WGs and it appeared one of the girls was really getting into it with the Korean guy. Everybody was standing up and the K-guy was yelling in Korean. So I beat a loop back to Eddie's, rightly thinking I wanted no part of what was going down. I had just stepped up to Eddie's when a pack of shirtless local guys came screaming down from the west end of the beach, headed toward Sonny's. Then another wave of 'them came. These dudes were fucking flying, man. Serious shit going down with the Ks, for sure. I posted up and had a beer and waiting for word on what was going down. Then a couple of serious-looking local dudes cruised down that way. Twenty minutes later, the FL I mentioned earlier came in and gave me the scoop. Apparently the K-guy had insulted the girl, she tossed a beer on him, he broke a bottle and managed to cut her leg (how the fuck that happened, I have no idea), she got on her cell and called her local boy and to wrap it all up, no punches were thrown and the matter was settled amicably by the local chiefs.

OK. The WGs. At the time I was there, they outnumbered mongers by 30-1. No joke. The discos packed with 18-25 y/o girls on stage, lining the bar. Range: 6 to 9s, depending upon taste. Lots of 8s with great attitudes. 1000 bf, 1000 to the WG. Spinners, stunners, divas. From every corner of SE Asia. However. A lot of them don't look very happy to be there. There isn't a lot of the party atmosphere you find at EDSA (Pitstop, especially fun). Lady drinks are reasonable in Sabang, like 100 php. The gogo joint have more of a shopping experience. Get in, find one, get out. Then take her to one of the diver bars down the alley and relax.

For the record, over two nights I did not partake due to the fact that I have a gf in Manila and she's all I need. However, my travel companion did partake on several occasions and he gave sparking review on overall service.

Stayed at Steps and Garden, which is up the hill about two minutes and far enough away from the noise that you can sleep. Kind of a primitive cottage but 1500 php a night. Tried for one of the upgrades (2200 php) but they were booked. The Mermaid looked awesome. Had dinner and a swim there. Shoulda stayed there, too. Atlantis is top notch, but pricey.

There is one major drawback to all of Sabang and that is the construction noise from the new resorts they're putting up on the hill. If you need day-sleep, bring ear plugs. The hammering goes non-stop from 8:00 am to noon, picks up again at 1:00 and stops at 5:00.

Overall, it's a great place to monger as long as you don't mind Koreans or scuba diving Europeans who start drinking beer with breakfast.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tally Wacker]I will be taking my Filipina gf who is located in Ac at the moment to possibly Palawan or another nice place for 2-weeks in December. If you have been to Palawan can you give me some insight to where to stay or what to expect there?

Are there other nice secluded beach and island places to visit instead that you would suggest?

Also is it better to fly out of Manila than AC to get to theses places in terms of airfare cost?

I would like to hangout at a nice slow paced area with nice comforts close to the everyday life in the area.[/QUOTE]Most people fly from Manila to Puetro princessa. Puerto is nothing special.

The place is reccomend is called Hibiscus Garden run by a french guy. Great breakfasts and nice staff. I stayed ther several times. Places to visit are undrground river. Toitally worth it, crocodile farm, abd honda bay. Better to take boat in Honda Bay to the outerlying islands than usual ones on the intenary and maybe you and your gf can make some memories

Best way to get around puetro princessa is rent a motorcycle 400p. The resurants are Kina Burch. Looks like a biker bar with a pool table, high end that is good food is Diaches and I think Hibiscus garden is also opening an organic resturant

Other place I recommend:

Is El Nido. 6-7 hour mini bus ride form puerto or a real real expensive flight from Manila. The resturants on the beach front are real good. The boat rides around El Nido is just spectaular. Make Hailong Bay in Vietmnam look over rated. Best place to book boat, dive, and eat is Art cafe run by a swiss gal and her filino husband. The husband is real nice and wife, I reccomend dealing with the husband. AVOID Marina beach hotel. Owned and run by the most horrible person I ever met in all my travels and incompitent staff. Elnido is just amazing.

Let me know if you need additonal info. I have been to palwan several times. Take a lot of sun tan lotion and skimpy bikinis for your GF.

SL captured it perfectly. El Nido is well worth the effort to get there. If you want a quiet laid back beautiful place, Port Barton is it. If you go there, eat and drink at Judy's place. PP is reputed to be on eof the nicer cities, but it is still a city in the Philippines. I chose to get out of PP quickly. There are way better places to hang out in Palawan than PP.

Is there any action on Bohol these days? Probably best to bring a girl with you I guess? Any recommendations on where to stay 2 nights? Tagbilaran City or somewhere close to Alona Beach? Maximum is like $100-150/night.

Hi - there ain't much action-wise to speak of in Bohol unless you fancy very small primitive primates (Tarsiers).

Instead it's wisest to bring your own chick-BYOC. Alona Beach is very very nice. Go out on a boat ride early AM to see the dolphins. On Alona we stayed at the Hehaw (something like that, look it up...) which was fine and well under the budget figure you mentioned. German owned, good bread and beer and I recall. Good scuba diving schools all around there also, if you're into that...

In Tagbilaran (about 30 minutes taxi ride from Alona) worth staying at is the Bohol Tropics - we booked the "Presidential Suite" which is more like a junior vice presidential suite (I recall price was approx $120), but it's good due the bubble bath at least that we had spilling out all over the large bathroom; giant room so if you can find other chicks, heck stage an orgy. Multiple chicks ought not be a problem there.

Your chick may beg you to go see the "Chocolate Hills" - the myopic poorly read and traveled Filipinos marvel that it's one of the Eight Wonders of the world but, sorry (having seen Swiss mountain peaks/Yosemite) it ain't that great but still the chick will get a thrill.

Maybe there's some KTV's in town but to be safe I say BYOC, unless you have lots of time for trolling....

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo]Is there any action on Bohol these days? Probably best to bring a girl with you I guess? Any recommendations on where to stay 2 nights? Tagbilaran City or somewhere close to Alona Beach? Maximum is like $100-150/night.[/QUOTE]

Yah, still haven't been to El Nido, gotta try that still but we did go to Port Barton which at least 1.5 years ago had lousy infrastructure, hotels very very minimal, it's very laid back, very few falang/foreigners since getting there is the real problem - we came when it was sunny but it rained the day before ---> the grueling 3.5 hr drive in was like out of the movie Romancing the Stone - driving through DEEPLY rutted mud roads on the sides of a steep cliff we had to get out and push the 4 wheel van through the mud - the GF was not pleased to say the least. Reports are that it is a malarial/dengue infested area (this from a gringo living up the hill who I met while pushing through the mud on the cliff side...). So, you can go by jeepney (not recommended) or hire a car but be sure it's 4wdrv and it's not been raining.... Or you can go there by boat (see below)

BUT right at the mouth of the harbor is a lovely looking island resort - THAT looks worth going to. Foreign owned which is good - it seems this fellow bought a small island surrounded by lovely waters.
I think it was this one on Cacnipa Island:
[url]http://coconutgarden.palawan.net/Home.html[/url]

Again bring your own chick, there ain't no action here unless you marry a local girl then and there in this winky little town.

Speaking of small town charm, be careful strolling at night in Port Barton - some young roughs were having yet another knife fight.... the barangay Tanod (constable) finally woke up but we had to run away to stay clear of the fighting.

Notes to self: 1) next time bring strong flashlight, very dark at night. 2) bring plenty of cash - FB is far far from any ATM's.

Yes, Judy's Place is about the only civilized place there (a somewhat clean outdoor bar with barstools, on a quite street corner, a block off the beach), the bartender I think was a hooker but now's moved on to cocktails - she's quite good at that. Married I think to a foreigner (her teen daughter was very cute but untouchable as I recall...)

So if you do venture to Port Barton (ain't much of a port that's for sure) then leave there by taking a 5 hr coastal boat trip south to the beach adjacent the famous Sabang underground river cave (inside take another boat thru the middle of the long river in the cave).

[QUOTE=Johnred]SL captured it perfectly. El Nido is well worth the effort to get there.

If you want a quiet laid back beautiful place, Port Barton is it. If you go there, eat and drink at Judy's place. PP is reputed to be on eof the nicer cities, but it is still a city in the Philippines. I chose to get out of PP quickly. There are way better places to hang out in Palawan than PP.[/QUOTE]

Thank you SH for the detailed information. I will be firming up my plans in the next week so I will PM you if I need additional info.

TW

[QUOTE=Shanghai Lover]Let me know if you need additonal info. I have been to palwan several times. Take a lot of sun tan lotion and skimpy bikinis for your GF.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rendorseg] On Alona we stayed at the Hehaw (something like that, look it up...) which was fine and well under the budget figure you mentioned. German owned, good bread and beer and I recall. Good scuba diving schools all around there also, if you're into that...

In Tagbilaran (about 30 minutes taxi ride from Alona) worth staying at is the Bohol Tropics - we booked the "Presidential Suite" which is more like a junior vice presidential suite (I recall price was approx $120), but it's good due the bubble bath at least that we had spilling out all over the large bathroom; giant room so if you can find other chicks, heck stage an orgy. Multiple chicks ought not be a problem there.
[/QUOTE]

Do you have anymore idea what that "Hehaw" place is? I could not find it when tried to google. Do you or anyone else think that if I have only 3 nights it is best to stay by the (alona?) beach? Because traveling from tagbilaran daily to the beach might take too much time. Any other suggestions for accommodation? Of course it depends a little if I can get one of my cebu contacts to come with me. Otherwise I should probably just fly to boracay or somewhere else for some bar possibilities.

Here it is.... I recall that it somehow rhymed with heehaw as in that old Okkie show, but actually it's hayahay, not heehaw. Ha ha.

[url]http://www.hayahay.net/[/url]

Anyways, it's simple clean and well run, at least when we were there.
Simple clean and well run is something rare in the Philippines, reminds me actually of the nice and affordable hotels along the beaches in Samui.
Actually, FYI, most all of the hotels on that short strip of beach seemed fine...

Look up Hayahay on [url]www.agoda.com[/url] - you can get very good rates when one pays in advance... sometimes just pay a day or so then if you stay longer (unless it's peak season) they'll let you stay at the same lower rate you got at Agoda instead of their normal higher walk in rates...

Panglao Island/Alona Beach is a very nice, clean but relatively laid back place... prices are good.... prices are totally fucked up insanely, absurdly high Boracay. In neither place will one find "action" (unless you enjoy the company of many a swaying and giggly lady-boys in which case going to Boracay alone is just the ticket for you, amigo...) ;-)

Boracay is vastly overrated, but if you take a chick there they will swoon in gratitude and brag about it to their friends and point out all the gee whiz Phil movie stars in the crowds... but there's >7000 other islands to go to... Hotels and food being so high, wow, makes no sense... Boracay beach was ok, but not incredible, the water was nice. what was nice is that they don't allow any car or trikes or motorcycles in the main walking are of Boracay and it's clean nowadays but the same thing can be said also about Alona Beach on Panglao Island.... so if you get turned on by passing stuck-up movie stars, movie-star wannabees, absurd overpricing then heck run to Boracay... Not my thang, but we were there a week.... Sigh.

(There is a certain economic illogic here in the Philippines which is generally that if a place isn't a total shit-hole then they charge very high prices. Competition isn't prized (unlike say in Thailand) instead it is surpressed by the highly corrupt bribing/"rent seeking" elite and in that sense is why Manila might compare to Moscow (illogical overpricing due to corrupt rent-seeking). Unfortunately many Filipinos think that if something is expensive it feels better, it's cool. That's why Starbucks is a bit hit here in fact. (It's a Filipine 'sickness' based on my years of observation....)

Don't stay in Tagbilaran just to go to the beach, stay in Tagbilaran only maybe as a first night in/out and/or on the way to see the Tarsiers. Stay on Alona to stroll out simply on it's lovely beach with beauty in hand (flown in with you...)

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo]Do you have anymore idea what that "Hehaw" place is? I could not find it when tried to google. Do you or anyone else think that if I have only 3 nights it is best to stay by the (alona?) beach? Because traveling from tagbilaran daily to the beach might take too much time. Any other suggestions for accommodation? Of course it depends a little if I can get one of my cebu contacts to come with me. Otherwise I should probably just fly to boracay or somewhere else for some bar possibilities.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rendorseg]Here it is.... I recall that it somehow rhymed with heehaw as in that old Okkie show, but actually it's hayahay, not heehaw. Ha ha.
[url]http://www.hayahay.net/[/url]...)[/QUOTE]

Hayahay, I'm told, means something like "laid back". It's a common name for
restaurant or resort.

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo]Do you or anyone else think that if I have only 3 nights it is best to stay by the (alona?) beach? Because traveling from tagbilaran daily to the beach might take too much time. Any other suggestions for accommodation?[/QUOTE]
Have to agree with everything Rendorseg says!
If you only have three nights, BYOB is the way to go.
But I would not make advanced reservations because you might not like the hotel or it's location. Upon arrival, have your driver take you around to several properties to have a look. Bohol Beach Club is in a good locale and has various rooms at all price levels. No reason to stay in Tagbilaran which is around a thirty minute drive unless you are on the hunt.

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo]Do you have anymore idea what that "Hehaw" place is? I could not find it when tried to google. Do you or anyone else think that if I have only 3 nights it is best to stay by the (alona?) beach? Because traveling from tagbilaran daily to the beach might take too much time. Any other suggestions for accommodation? Of course it depends a little if I can get one of my cebu contacts to come with me. Otherwise I should probably just fly to boracay or somewhere else for some bar possibilities.[/QUOTE]
Stay on Alona Beach! Don’t even think about staying elsewhere.
There is another resort on Alona called Isla Hayahay rated #1 by Travel Advisor. Read up on your choices. Check Travel Advisor, Lonely Planet, and Rough Guide. Then check the hotel websites. Do your homework. It pays off.

If going in high season it is probably a good idea to book a resort. Otherwise it is best to show up and pick the one you like. Almost a certainty you will have a good time on Alona. Best to bring your own girl, but it is definitely not a requirement.

The best alternative beach resort with bar possibilities in PI is Sabang, Puerto Galera. Search the forum; there is good info on Sabang Beach.

[QUOTE=Cheapy]Just got back from Sabang. Stayed 4 days with a Manila GF and agree that 3/4 nights is about the max stay. If you do go alone or with a wingman, be sure to go out to the "Floating Bar" in the afternoons. The Broadway Bikini Bar girls like to hang out there looking for extra cash or a temporary BF. Also, some young ladies were out there, but be aware a few looked a little too young.

Stayed at Sha Che Inn at Little Laguna Beach (200 meters from Sabang center). Payed 1200p for large oceanfront with kitchen. Much quieter and more relaxed than Sabang centro.

Enjoy,

Cheapy[/QUOTE]Wow, the floating bar is open again? That's probably pretty cool then. I was told it was shut down for good. At any rate, one more reason to go.

There's a town in Misamis Occidental, Mindanao called Calamba that I'm looking at traveling to. Anybody know where the closest airport is and how long it might take by taxi to get to Calamba from the closest airport?

Thanks in advance.

Slippery f/k/a Puerto La Cruz

Malapascua is a wonderful small island north of cebu. 2-3 kilometers in length, 1 kilometer in wide. It is not a mongering destination but a perfect stay for some days with your cebu-girl. I have not been in boracay 15 years ago, but it seems to me that malapascua today is maybe like boracay has been at this time. There are some hotels, not too much, some bars and restaurants, mostely at the southern part called bounty beach. Important: there is no ATM at the island, and most of the hotels do accept only cash.

How to go there

From cebu city northern bus terminal there are running non-aircon busses to maya every hour for peso 90. I have been told that there are air con busses as well, but never saw one. Travel time by bus is 4-5 hours to maya. Most of the taxi drivers in cebu are willing to bring you there for 3000 peso. Bargaining helps, I payed 2000 and tipped another 200.

From maya there are small boats going to malapascua, ride is 30 minutes. They start with prices arround 1000 for a private trip bringing you exactly to the place at the beach where your hotel is. Bargaining can bring it down to 700. From malapascua back to maya I catched one for 600.

There is also a public boat running for 50 peso per person. Officially it goes every hour, but it seems they wait till they are full. From the place where this boat arrives, it is a 5 min walk to the south beach on a sandy path.

Where to stay

There are a lot of different small hotels. I stayed in sunsplash, checked 2 other options during my 3 days stay and think both others are better. All prices following are from nov. 2010. Depending to season they are changing a lot.

Sunsplash: Hotel style building with 16 rooms, 50 meters back from the beach, no direct ocean view. Rooms are not too big, queen size bed, aircon and in room safe. Tv (important for your girl if you want to read something in the sun), german management. They have a restaurant close bye with reasonable food. Payed 2700 for the room including breakfast for 2. Contact number: 09272240110

Cocobana: bungalow type, trees between the buildings with some hamrocks. They have a lot of different style cottages, some without aircon. Deluxe (2600 without breakfast) and especially Super Deluxe (3000 without b) looked very good. Deluxe without TV. Both with 2 queensize beds, both without inroom safe. Both rooms much bigger then sunsplash. Swiss management. From the 8 superdeluxe rooms 4 have a perfect seeview. Contact: 09159200011

Ocean Vida: brand new, grandopening dec 2010, soft opening nov. 12 rooms in a hotel style building, anyway with private terrace. In room safe, tv is promised to be there soon. Room size between sunsplash and cocobana. 2 normal size beds which could be taken to one big one. Roomrate 2500 till December 18, then it should be 4000. Swiss management. Contact: 09058001030

Mongering: did not see any action. Some of the hotels have a really nice staff who is willing to flirt, but I do not know if more then this is possible. Big suggestion: bring your own girl. Teach her swimming, or whatever you want.

[QUOTE=Slippery]There's a town in Misamis Occidental, Mindanao called Calamba that I'm looking at traveling to. Anybody know where the closest airport is and how long it might take by taxi to get to Calamba from the closest airport?

Thanks in advance.

Slippery f/k/a Puerto La Cruz[/QUOTE]Slippery, I assume you are going to Calamba to meet a chatmate. I have been through Calamba, where our van transport stopped for about 10 minutes. That was plenty long enough! Typical small town in the middle of nowhere with nothing to recommend it. Within an hour, everyone in town would know all about your being there, for who, for what. If there is a hotel there, it will be very basic, or worse.

Closest airport is Dipolog, with regular flights from Cebu. Probably about one hour by taxi to Calamba. Vans going from bus terminal on the way to Ozamis, Iligan, and CDO. Would be available. However, my suggestion is DON't go!

Have her come to you. There is a very pleasant small resort hotel in Dapitan, called either The Pavilion, or The Dapitan City Resort. Yes, It goes by both names. They will pick you up at Dipolog and take you to the resort which is only about 15-20 minutes away. Book a double on the second floor (nice view of pool and ocean). If you arrange for her to come to you, then she can take the bus as far as the Dapitan turnoff, then by trike to the Pavilion, or you can meet her bus.

Phone # for the hotel is 065 213 6413. I've stayed there a couple of times and it is recommended. Once again, best you not go to Calamba.

Visited Boracay last week. In Cocomangos every day 10pm-11pm there were several small groups of FL girls sitting at the bar just near the entrance. I approached one and she quickly agreed for 2000pe ST at my hotel, I tried to bargain but she did not agree for a lower price (at the beginning of 2009 I got ST there for 1200pe). I liked her so I agreed and did not try to negotiate with other girls there.

She was there with several other girls, her friends, they could be found (and picked up) at the same place at the Cocomangos bar every day. She said they are from Manila and came to Boracay for couple of weeks. She said in Manila she is a 'good girl', she is single mother of a child and she does not have a husband or boyfriend.

Thought I would share a few internet sites that were helpful in planning my trip to the Palawan Islands.

[url]http://www.elnidopalawan.com[/url]

[url]http://www.smarttravelasia.com/palawan.htm[/url]

[url]http://palawanmap.org/palawan-map[/url]

[url]http://www.elnidoboutiqueandartcafe.com[/url]

[url]http://travel-philippines.com/locations/palawan/2-puerto-princesa.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.palawanmotorbiketours.comuf.com[/url]

[url]http://www.pitstopbikeadventure.com[/url]

[url]http://booknow.flyseair.com[/url]

[url]http://www.islandtransvoyager.com[/url]

Hi friends, I'm wondering why there are almost no information on mongering in Laoag.

I read on more than one travel forum that Laoag is considered a primary mongering destination, mainly for asian customers.
On the Lonely Planet is indicated that "entertainment" district in Laoag is called Discolandia, and it should be not a family district... such as a rld.

Any suggestion?
Any hotel tip?

Thanks!

I'll do some research and I post the results, of course...

[QUOTE=On The Road]Hi friends, I'm wondering why there are almost no information on mongering in Laoag.

I read on more than one travel forum that Laoag is considered a primary mongering destination, mainly for asian customers.
On the Lonely Planet is indicated that "entertainment" district in Laoag is called Discolandia, and it should be not a family district... such as a rld.

Any suggestion?
Any hotel tip?

Thanks!

I'll do some research and I post the results, of course...[/QUOTE]

I was there about 9 years ago. At least then it was it was itself a not especially attractive little town with not much going on. There is a casino complex just outside the city which attracts loads of Chinese and other gamblers. For sure there will also be girls there to provide additional services. But I think unless you are ome sort of package its not a very economical place to stay.

One of the girls I met on my last trip to CDO messaged me complaining that she hasn't met any guys recently and asked me to try to find someone planning a trip to CDO who might be interested.

She's a cute fairly slim 21 year old who is bright and fun to be with. For some reason she REALLY loves sucking cock and especially swallowing cum. Apparently she also likes riding guys but had a period when I was there so I can't judge that but she definitely knows how to suck cock expertly!

She has got a 2 year old son (from an English guy she spent 6 months with and who then had no more to do with her once she got preg) , and stretch marks on her tummy.

She is a great little guide around town, open to threesomes and can try and locate some other girls if you are interested. She's not greedy but has a kid to feed and support so treat her fairly if you decide you would like to meet her. PM me if you would like contact details. I promised to let her know who might call so include something about yourself / what your plans are so that I can pass it on to her.

Prior to my recent trip to the Philipines I spent a lot of time on DIA, intending to bring a girl to Palawan (well-known as a BYOG place) with me from Manila, but this was ultimately fruitless. Lots of false starts and then too short notice. I eventually gave up, worried about being stuck for 3 days with someone who was unbearable. Still, tail can be found there if you lower your standards. Ask a tricycle driver or check out some of the Karaoke places. Several flights each day from Manila and R / T airfare approx. P4, 000. Food was excellent, and cheap.

[QUOTE=Tally Wacker; 1100115]Thought I would share a few internet sites that were helpful in planning my trip to the Palawan Islands.

[url]http://www.elnidopalawan.com[/url]

[url]http://www.smarttravelasia.com/palawan.htm[/url]

[url]http://palawanmap.org/palawan-map[/url]

[url]http://www.elnidoboutiqueandartcafe.com[/url]

[url]http://travel-philippines.com/locations/palawan/2-puerto-princesa.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.palawanmotorbiketours.comuf.com[/url]

[url]http://www.pitstopbikeadventure.com[/url]

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[/QUOTE]Thanks for the links, this is a great help. I'm planing a 5 day bike trip there early Feb, do you have any FL or bar girl info or experiences or pointers?

Planning a few days in Baguio and surrounding areas for the next few days. It's a long time since I went up there anyone got any tips for comfortable places to stay? Ideally with wifi access? I believe Baguio is quite developed now so may move on to Banaue or Segada. 10 years ago that was quite a long trip but maybe the road has improved? Not to worried about the girl situation as I have a nice hot girl from Manila who has volunteered to come with me. Setting out from Angeles.

Hi,

Sorry no info on girls in Palawan as I brought my filipina gf with me. Just arrives a a day ago and its 1am here but my body tells me its 7am.

I had this freak thing to me happen on my long flight from USA. My feet swelled up enormously and have red blotts everywhere. I understand its from the altitude in the plane and lack of movement in my leags from sitting in one place for over 17hrs. From looking on the internet I hear the remedy is keeping my feet elevated, drink fluids and no alchohol. Not to fun.

Its been raining daily here for the past week so hope it clears up so we can have some fun.

[QUOTE=Pierre Le Ski;1101577]Thanks for the links, this is a great help. I'm planing a 5 day bike trip there early Feb, do you have any FL or bar girl info or experiences or pointers?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GregLondon;1102054]Planning a few days in Baguio and surrounding areas for the next few days. It's a long time since I went up there anyone got any tips for comfortable places to stay? Ideally with wifi access? I believe Baguio is quite developed now so may move on to Banaue or Segada. 10 years ago that was quite a long trip but maybe the road has improved? Not to worried about the girl situation as I have a nice hot girl from Manila who has volunteered to come with me. Setting out from Angeles.[/QUOTE]GL.

Was there earlier this year.

Elizabeth Hotel is not a bad place had free wifi.

Was also in San Fernadao La Union at a small beach resort, cheap and cheerful, had the whole week with Cebu favourite, sat by the ocean etc. Well not all the time, again free wifi and Baguio about an hour up the road and certainly warmer than Baguio. Nice strawberries though and for a pinay who has never seen them. Wonderful treat and great brownie points. Also Cebu fav bought penis shaped key rings for her sister.

Road to Baguio is OK but slow, took us around 9 hours to get back to Manila (but then 2 hours were spent in Manila trying to get to Cubao and Pasay!). But road is fine, when you get closer to Baguio then very slow and winding, lots of hills and limited overtaking. So take lots of food / nibbles and water

Gents,

Was in Palawan about 6 months ago. There were 3 places that I remember. One was Phoenix, its on a road perpendicular to the main road leaving the airport heading into town (close to the airport). The 2nd was actually on that main road. Can't remember the name, but if you are heading into town from the airport, its on the left side (which is the same side that the road Phoenix is on). The third was called Golden Bell or something like that. A friend took me. Its away from the main town.

The setup at the first 2 are basically bars with about 30 girls with numbered tags. Every once in a while (when people come in) the mama puts on this song and the girls do this "runway" routine allowing everyone to see them as they walk around the stage and "pose". Then you tell the mama which one you want. After that, its like any other bar. Bf available of course although I can't remember how much. I do remember it being more expensive than I thought it would be. Closer to makati prices.

The 3rd bar. Golden bell, is more like a large compound with little "Nipa" huts. Basically a sort of park bench with 1/2 walls and a roof. You are "outside" vice being in a bar. More local style I suppose. Mama brings girls around until you choose which one you like. This bar was cheaper than the first 2 (go figure). I didn't take out but my friend did. The first 2 are very easy to get to. Any trike should be able to take you to it. The 3rd, I'm not sure. You probably have to go with someone who knows. Puerto Princessa is not a big city so you will likely pick up the lay of the land fast.

My advice: have dinner at Kinnebuch's (food is excellent) on the main road. When you leave, stay on that side, turn right and leisurely walk towards the airport. The 2nd bar is about 10 or 15 mins walk. Otherwise, grab a trike and go to Phoenix. From Kinnebuch it should be between 10 30 peso (you negotiate).

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Localboy; 1102437]Gents,

Was in Palawan about 6 months ago. There were 3 places that I remember. [/QUOTE]Could you comment on the quality of the women available?

Pierre, when you say bike trip. Do you mean mortorbike or bicycle?

I was planning on renting a mortorbike while in Puerto Princessa from Pitstop Bikes but noticed his Jeep parked at the Hibiscus Hotel that I looked into previously but seemed too expensive. I called Arnold the owner of Pitsop and inquired about the Jeep. I was able to rent it for 4-days including a one way trip to El Nido for $8000P. His shop is located in El Nido so it worked out good for him to get his jeep back.

The Hibiscus Hotel took care of the rental contract and I would also suggest this hotel to stay in.

[QUOTE=Pierre Le Ski;1101577]Thanks for the links, this is a great help. I'm planing a 5 day bike trip there early Feb, do you have any FL or bar girl info or experiences or pointers?[/QUOTE]

Hi all,

Thanks for the info. I'm doing a Motorbike trip early feb on the end of 5 weeks in the Philippines. I've done many, many similar trips in Thai, Cambo, Laos and Myanmar over the last 7 years and I thought I'd give The Philippines a try. Hiring a bike out of Angeles City as will for three weeks. Wish me luck, I'll report back.

[QUOTE=Shanghai Lover; 1091122]Most people fly from Manila to Puetro princessa. Puerto is nothing special.

The place is reccomend is called Hibiscus Garden run by a french guy. Great breakfasts and nice staff. I stayed ther several times. Places to visit are undrground river. Toitally worth it, crocodile farm, abd honda bay. Better to take boat in Honda Bay to the outerlying islands than usual ones on the intenary and maybe you and your gf can make some memories.

Best way to get around puetro princessa is rent a motorcycle 400p. The resurants are Kina Burch. Looks like a biker bar with a pool table, high end that is good food is Diaches and I think Hibiscus garden is also opening an organic resturant.

Other place I recommend:

Is El Nido. 6-7 hour mini bus ride form puerto or a real real expensive flight from Manila. The resturants on the beach front are real good. The boat rides around El Nido is just spectaular. Make Hailong Bay in Vietmnam look over rated. Best place to book boat, dive, and eat is Art cafe run by a swiss gal and her filino husband. The husband is real nice and wife, I reccomend dealing with the husband. AVOID Marina beach hotel. Owned and run by the most horrible person I ever met in all my travels and incompitent staff. Elnido is just amazing.

Let me know if you need additonal info. I have been to palwan several times. Take a lot of sun tan lotion and skimpy bikinis for your GF. [/QUOTE]Thanks Shanghai for the informations. I'm planning a trip in Ph. Next March and I'm interested in Palawan (already was in AC, Manila, P. Galera, Cebu, Malapascua, Borocay, Tablas). Any information about a new bar in El Nido like a Go Go? A friend tell me about it, but I didn't find anything.

[QUOTE=HotSam;1103595]Thanks Shanghai for the informations. I'm planning a trip in Ph. Next March and I'm interested in Palawan (already was in AC, Manila, P. Galera, Cebu, Malapascua, Borocay, Tablas). Any information about a new bar in El Nido like a Go Go? A friend tell me about it, but I didn't find anything.[/QUOTE]There's no go go bars in El Nido that I came across. There's a night club that stays open till morning but it's a bring your own girl place. There are a couple of flights a week to Puerto Princesa from Cebu and daily flights from Manila. Then it's a five hour mini bus trip to El Nido. There may be pickings available in Puerto Princesa (I had my gf with me so didn't investigate) but I wouldn't go to Palawan hoping to find decent company there. Much better to travel with your own companion.

Make sure you take lots of cash (pesos) with you to El Nido. There's no banks and no ATM's. And few places accept credit cards, not even the hotels. There are a couple of places that will change dollar notes for pesos but the exchange rate is outrageous.

The scenery around El Nido is magnificent. Well worth the effort to get there.

I was in El Nido last month. There is a disco in the middle of the beach road. Went in for a couple of hours on a Saturday night. 15-20 girls there of variable quality. At least half of them appeared to be freelancers, judging by eye contact and smiles.

I have been told there is a girlie bar in the area. If true, any trike driver will know it. I was there with my girlfriend, so I did not check.

[QUOTE=Iron Duke; 1103967]There's no go go bars in El Nido that I came across. There's a night club that stays open till morning but it's a bring your own girl place. There are a couple of flights a week to Puerto Princesa from Cebu and daily flights from Manila. Then it's a five hour mini bus trip to El Nido. There may be pickings available in Puerto Princesa (I had my gf with me so didn't investigate) but I wouldn't go to Palawan hoping to find decent company there. Much better to travel with your own companion.

Make sure you take lots of cash (pesos) with you to El Nido. There's no banks and no ATM's. And few places accept credit cards, not even the hotels. There are a couple of places that will change dollar notes for pesos but the exchange rate is outrageous.

The scenery around El Nido is magnificent. Well worth the effort to get there. [/QUOTE]

Anyone got some new info re-girl scene around that area?

If one stays in the White beach area is there any action to be had?

Or does one have to travel to Sabang for it?

An unusual invitation here for anyone planning a trip to Puerto Princesa, Palawan in the near future.

One of the girls I met there earlier this year is a slim, tall, rather shapely and attractive 25 year old without kids. She is a little different from the norm because she is a deaf mute. She communicates mostly by typing into a very old and battered mobile phone.

If anyone is going there and is interested in an unusual sexual experience plus the opportunity to do a little good then PM me for her contact details. She is willing to please in bed and if you are in a position to get her a new phone with good texting capabilities or if feeling especially generous an old laptop, it would be something that would make a significant difference in her life. She has a good sense of humour and being with her is more fun than you might imagine. She can probably hook up another cute friend of mine if you think it would be easier to have a talking girl as well or fancy a threesome.

[QUOTE=Vandaddio; 1104768]Anyone got some new info re-girl scene around that area?

If one stays in the White beach area is there any action to be had?

Or does one have to travel to Sabang for it? [/QUOTE]got to go to Sabang, that's where the discos are. Might be a freelancer or two hanging around White Beach, but it's unlikely.

I will actually be in Palawan Dec 30-Jan 2 and travel to Sebang for Jan 2-4. Fly into Manila Dec 29 and out Jan 5 on the Nagoya-Manila Delta express!

I have been working tagged to find a couple of friends to show me around and have an enjoyable New Years! Looking forward to doing thr nature thing an seeing the falls in the area. No time for El Nido though due to wanting to be in a decent sized town for New Years and do the Underground River while in Sebang. (staying at the Sheridan for something different)

Any recommendations?

I have used the ISG forums for my trips to Hong Kong / Macau and all around Japan to great success. Unfortunately the last 2 times to the PI was with my Filipino GF so she kept me entertained while in Puerto Gallera, Manila, and Boracay. I am all for making new friends now that she is behind me.

What can I say. I love the Philippines. Great food, weather, women, and sights!

[QUOTE=GregLondon; 1104908]An unusual invitation here for anyone planning a trip to Puerto Princesa, Palawan in the near future.

One of the girls I met there earlier this year is a slim, tall, rather shapely and attractive 25 year old without kids. She is a little different from the norm because she is a deaf mute. She communicates mostly by typing into a very old and battered mobile phone.

If anyone is going there and is interested in an unusual sexual experience plus the opportunity to do a little good then PM me for her contact details. She is willing to please in bed and if you are in a position to get her a new phone with good texting capabilities or if feeling especially generous an old laptop, it would be something that would make a significant difference in her life. She has a good sense of humour and being with her is more fun than you might imagine. She can probably hook up another cute friend of mine if you think it would be easier to have a talking girl as well or fancy a threesome. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Livingthedream; 1105065]I will actually be in Palawan Dec 30-Jan 2 and travel to Sebang for Jan 2-4. Fly into Manila Dec 29 and out Jan 5 on the Nagoya-Manila Delta express!

I have been working tagged to find a couple of friends to show me around and have an enjoyable New Years! Looking forward to doing thr nature thing an seeing the falls in the area. No time for El Nido though due to wanting to be in a decent sized town for New Years and do the Underground River while in Sebang. (staying at the Sheridan for something different)

Any recommendations?

I have used the ISG forums for my trips to Hong Kong / Macau and all around Japan to great success. Unfortunately the last 2 times to the PI was with my Filipino GF so she kept me entertained while in Puerto Gallera, Manila, and Boracay. I am all for making new friends now that she is behind me.

What can I say. I love the Philippines. Great food, weather, women, and sights! [/QUOTE]Yes I have the perfect little guide / sexual companion for you if she is free those days, you can also take the deaf girl who is her friend for ta threesome if you like. You need to PM me though so you may need to pay your subscription. There are thousands of lurkers on this forum and if I posted this gilrs DIA she would get inundated wioth all sorts of guys.

Welcome to the board, LTD. Have very much enjoyed your reports on another, PI-oriented site. Drop a pm if you're up for a drink in Manila during the first week of January.

[QUOTE=Livingthedream; 1105065]I will actually be in Palawan Dec 30-Jan 2 and travel to Sebang for Jan 2-4. Fly into Manila Dec 29 and out Jan 5 on the Nagoya-Manila Delta express!

I have been working tagged to find a couple of friends to show me around and have an enjoyable New Years! Looking forward to doing thr nature thing an seeing the falls in the area. No time for El Nido though due to wanting to be in a decent sized town for New Years and do the Underground River while in Sebang. (staying at the Sheridan for something different)

Any recommendations?

I have used the ISG forums for my trips to Hong Kong / Macau and all around Japan to great success. Unfortunately the last 2 times to the PI was with my Filipino GF so she kept me entertained while in Puerto Gallera, Manila, and Boracay. I am all for making new friends now that she is behind me.

What can I say. I love the Philippines. Great food, weather, women, and sights! [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Livingthedream; 1105065]I will actually be in Palawan Dec 30-Jan 2 and travel to Sebang for Jan 2-4. Fly into Manila Dec 29 and out Jan 5 on the Nagoya-Manila Delta express!

I have been working tagged to find a couple of friends to show me around and have an enjoyable New Years! Looking forward to doing thr nature thing an seeing the falls in the area. No time for El Nido though due to wanting to be in a decent sized town for New Years and do the Underground River while in Sebang. (staying at the Sheridan for something different)

Any recommendations?

I have used the ISG forums for my trips to Hong Kong / Macau and all around Japan to great success. Unfortunately the last 2 times to the PI was with my Filipino GF so she kept me entertained while in Puerto Gallera, Manila, and Boracay. I am all for making new friends now that she is behind me.

What can I say. I love the Philippines. Great food, weather, women, and sights! [/QUOTE]You will probably be aware that the main attraction in and around Puerto Princesa is to take a day trip to the islands in Honda Bay. In good weather these are stunningly beautiful little islets. The boat station is about 15km outside town. A Trike wil take you there for about 150P-200P . They start off higher. The boats take 8-12 people and cost 800P-1200P from memory divided between the passengers. They will ask 100P for a mask and 100P for flippers, flippers are pretty pointless as it's shallow water. What I tend to do is to take 5-6 sexy girls in bikinis (130P from NCCP dept store in PP, second floor for nice skimpy sexy ones) out there and have a boat to ourselves. For obvious reasons LOL. If you have a nice group of girls who like taking pics as they pretty much all do in Phils, and you get a nice day, you will think you have died and gone to heaven. Best not to tempt fate though, one of my girls in Cebu went island hoping with a group of Singapore biz guys last month. Apparently one of them was so happy that he said something along the lines of this was the best time of his life and if he died then and there he would die contented. Later that afternoon they found him floating around dead from a heart attack.

If you hit DIA / tagged you will fairly easily find contacts who will certainly be up for a free boat trip. However in general Palawan girls are much more conservative than girls in Manila / Cebu / Angeles and it can be challenging to find open minded girls. There is alot of "bait and switch" ie promising unlimited sex only to find excuses and " I meant once we were married" etc. There are a bunch of somewhat second rate bars around town where you can get bar girls, but generally not such high quality ones, the cuties who opt for that work generally go to AC / Manila / Cebu etc.

I've spent 3 months or so in Palawan over the last couple of years and made a few really nice, sexy and open minded friends there and am prepared to help out (if I'm not there at the time you are going) but only to decent guys who I can trust will treat the girls well, use condoms etc (fed up with guys whose attitude is "I'm a clean respectable guy so you don't have to use a condom with me", then she picks up an STD because he had bare backed 5 bar girls during the last week)

[QUOTE=Driveallnight;1104931]got to go to Sabang, that's where the discos are. Might be a freelancer or two hanging around White Beach, but it's unlikely.[/QUOTE]It always makes me smile, when I hear guys bragging (well, I still think it's bragging) that there are loads of girls in the beach here and there. Just wating to be picked up.

If such a place exists in Phil, I am damn curious to know.

White beach, you get the odd girl, who you can chat up, but is a far cry from the image of girls waiting and sunbathing. Just to be collected by punters.

[QUOTE=Driveallnight;1105204]Welcome to the board, LTD. Have very much enjoyed your reports on another, PI-oriented site. Drop a pm if you're up for a drink in Manila during the first week of January.[/QUOTE]Hi Driveallnight.

Unfortunately I cannot take the credit for someone else's work. While I am on a few other boards I am not the "Livingthedream" of which you speak.

Be that as it may I hope to bring glory to the username I have adopted on ISG as it is a saying I truly live by.

In the near future I will be providing more info of my adventures in order to give back to the community that has inspired me so much!

Some details of my trip.

I will be traveling from Nagoya. Manila Dec 29 with my good friend and his Malayasian GF.

I am the 3rd wheel and if course need to rectify that as I broke up with my Manila GF who traveled with me before. FYI we are in contact still for regular visits it's just a fun needs based arrangement.

Dec 30. Manila.Puerto Princesa early: explore city and visit locals / fishing village and the like.

Dec 31. Morning or half day trip to visit the local waterfalls and enjoy nature. Find some place to enjoy New Years and hope to bring it in with a BANG! Any recommendations? Good parties and thr like?

Jan 1-island hoping around Honda bay.

Jan 2-travel to Sebang and try the resort experience. Hopefully do the underground river and jungle trek this day. Enjoy the resort!

Jan 3-mangrove tour and caving / nature experience.

Jan 4-head back to PP and catch last flight out to Manila. Enjoy a night out at greenbrier or in the casino waiting till 4am to head to the airport.

Jan 5-back to Nagoya.

I am actually going to Palawan to enjoy the beauty of the island first with the hope of making some great friends and long lasting memories in the process. All the while avoiding the odd man out syndrome if possible. Oh yeah and enjoying some of the best seafood in my life!

So Greglondon if any of your friends would enjoy spending time with these activities, acting as a guide or just able to keep me from getting hustled to much I would appreciate it. My pm should be working soon so I will be able to discuss these matters privately.

[QUOTE=Rampana; 1105475]Guys, don't fall into this.

Be careful. [/QUOTE]Rampana I feel like I'm trying to put out a Bush fire here!

"Be careful" . Agreed always solid advice . About what exactly though?

"Don't fall into this" . Fall into what exactly?

It seems that you are an arch skeptic. Fine don't have anything to do with these girls. But you should explain to people what the basis of your skepticism is.

For example:

1 Have you personally met any of the girls that I have recommended or had any negative experiences whatsoever with them? As far as I can recall you have not requested contact details from any of them or had anything to do with them. Correct me if this is wrong?

2 Are you basing your skepticism on the general intuition that nobody ever helps anyone for no personal gain type reasoning? Fine, you can choose to live your life by such reasoning, you should thereby protect yourself from ever being scammed, but may also lose interesting opportunities because you are too cynical.

3 Are you basing your views on a character assassination conducted by "Gen" a month or two ago on one of the 5 or 6 girls that I have introduced to him and that he has spent the bulk of his time over the last 4 months or so with? As I explained at the time "Gen" was being what we in England call "economical with the truth" in his account of the matter for his own, in my view dishonourable reasons.

Here is some info on Port Barton, Palawan located about 1/2 way between Puerto Princessa and El Nido. I took a side trip here on my way to El Nido and ended up canceling my plans to El Nido and stayed 9 days here.

Port Barton is a quiet little fishing town that does not get alot of tourists because of the difficult dirt access road from the main interstate. The road has been patched up with cement in a few bad areas that became mud pits when it would rain but is now passable by car when dry but would require a 4-wheel drive when it is wet.

We stayed in what seemed to be the best resort in the area named Deep Gold located on the beach front in the center of the bay. Our beach front cottage cost 1000P a night and they do not accept credit cards so bring enough pesos with you if you stop here. If you run out of Pesos you can change your US dollars at a local store at a lower exchange rate.

The power in town only goes on from 5:30 PM to 12 midnight or longer and the Resort does have Wifi internet that can be accessed from the Restaurant / Bar or from some of the closser cottages.

The water in the bay was clean, clear and smooth like glass most of the time. There are many nice Islands and snorkeling spots that one of the many Boatman will take you to from 800P to 1000P for the day. There are also two different local Dive Shops and I understand the Diving is good at the outer reef.

No nightlife here so bring your own babe.

More Port Barton Photos.

More Port Barton Photos.

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I recently cleaned up this thread by deleting a number of off-topic and otherwise pointless posts, as well as a number responses made by other forum members to these deleted posts.

This cleanup process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently deleted a few otherwise legitimate posts. If you find that your own report was also deleted, please don't take it personally.

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[QUOTE=Tally Wacker;1105944]More Port Barton Photos.[/QUOTE]She's a real dog TW . What were you thinking of?

Sorry I couldn't resist it. Thanks for the pics of PB. I've tended to be reluctant to advertise Palawan too much as its charm is not too many fellow tourists.

I guess I'm just selfish

I think someone needs to either stop me or take away my mongering card. I've been in one place (province-side) for almost a week now, with one girl (the same one as the end of my last trip, a dating site contact, a sub-40kg 4'11" spinner, smart and educated). Turned down an invitation to come visit from Miss H in Cebu too in favor of staying. Think this is the first time ever I've come across a girl whose appetite is more than mine, I'm finding myself turning down "one more round" already despite assistance of fortifying vitamins.

No money changing hands, this one is a total keeper. Reinforces my opinion that you get out of the dating sites exactly as much as you put into it (this one was about 2 months worth of mail exchange 2-3x or more a day, after weeding out dozens of sub-par contacts).

Puerto Galera is not so good any more. I have been coming here for a number of years over the Christmas new year time. There have always been six bars, although one closed and recently reopened under new name. When I first started coming here, there were dozens of really sweet girls from the provinces who really want to make the guest – that's the term they used – feel special.

Many of the girls were from relatively good backgrounds – their families were poor but they had relatively good educations, stable homes, and were good girls before entering the bar world. They came straight from their parents homes without having been in other bars in Manila or elsewhere. Over the past three or four years, this seems to have been changing.

You do have to take account of the fact that Christmas new year is a bad time to go – many of the girls go home to their families and there's generally a massive exodus. Also, there are Koreans who come into the bar – there's really only one good bar Venus and one fair bar Broadway, the other four in my opinion are awful –and bar fine five or 10 or 15 girls.

Nevertheless, this year has been by far the worst. Virtually all the girls are experienced bar girls. They are totally disinterested in providing service and are frequently interested only in Koreans, who tend to throw around a lot of cash. It is certainly true that they can make three or four times as much money going with Koreans. So it's a perfectly rational economic decision on their part, but It doesn't make me or other people like me particularly happy. The girls frequently have tattoos, most now shave – which I hate – and they have numerous other manifestations of what I guess we would call being hard-core.

There are much fewer Americans, Canadians, and especially Australians in town. There are lots of Europeans and a tremendous number of Koreans, who are in the process of overrunning the place. Some Europeans and virtually all Koreans are unfriendly and competitive. And perhaps they need to be competitive. Getting a pretty girl out of one of those two bars is not easy, especially if you show up more than 30 min. After opening at seven or 7:30 PM.

I have no idea exactly why this is happening but I suspect it is the result of several separate factors – American pressure on the government to stop [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url], economic development – despite what many on this board say, the country is growing economically –, changing social patterns, and so forth. There is still tremendous opportunity here but, for those who remember the good old days, it is irritating. Perhaps I am a pessimist by nature, but I believe that things will get much worse in the next five or 10 years.

I don't know if it's because of the factors you've cited here, but I agree: Mongering in PG sucks compared to other parts of Phils. Hardened girls who perform poorly, narrow selection, and you need to bum-rush the bars by 8-9pm if you want to beat the crowd and grab something decent. YMMV of course, but it's gotten so bad that I've started bringing talent with me from Manila and restricting my patronage of the PG discos to barhopping.

[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist; 1106672]Puerto Galera is not so good any more. I have been coming here for a number of years over the Christmas new year time. There have always been six bars, although one closed and recently reopened under new name. When I first started coming here, there were dozens of really sweet girls from the provinces who really want to make the guest – that's the term they used – feel special.

Many of the girls were from relatively good backgrounds – their families were poor but they had relatively good educations, stable homes, and were good girls before entering the bar world. They came straight from their parents homes without having been in other bars in Manila or elsewhere. Over the past three or four years, this seems to have been changing.

You do have to take account of the fact that Christmas new year is a bad time to go – many of the girls go home to their families and there's generally a massive exodus. Also, there are Koreans who come into the bar – there's really only one good bar Venus and one fair bar Broadway, the other four in my opinion are awful –and bar fine five or 10 or 15 girls.

Nevertheless, this year has been by far the worst. Virtually all the girls are experienced bar girls. They are totally disinterested in providing service and are frequently interested only in Koreans, who tend to throw around a lot of cash. It is certainly true that they can make three or four times as much money going with Koreans. So it's a perfectly rational economic decision on their part, but It doesn't make me or other people like me particularly happy. The girls frequently have tattoos, most now shave – which I hate – and they have numerous other manifestations of what I guess we would call being hard-core.

There are much fewer Americans, Canadians, and especially Australians in town. There are lots of Europeans and a tremendous number of Koreans, who are in the process of overrunning the place. Some Europeans and virtually all Koreans are unfriendly and competitive. And perhaps they need to be competitive. Getting a pretty girl out of one of those two bars is not easy, especially if you show up more than 30 min. After opening at seven or 7:30 PM.

I have no idea exactly why this is happening but I suspect it is the result of several separate factors – American pressure on the government to stop [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url], economic development – despite what many on this board say, the country is growing economically –, changing social patterns, and so forth. There is still tremendous opportunity here but, for those who remember the good old days, it is irritating. Perhaps I am a pessimist by nature, but I believe that things will get much worse in the next five or 10 years. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Devils 1;1102668]Could you comment on the quality of the women available?[/QUOTE]I thought they were of pretty good quality overall. The clubs (Phoenix and the other one whose name I can't remember) had some really nice ones. Tall, sexy, spoke English well. Can't complain. All the girls that I talked to were from Manila or Cavite. They came to PP to work since its not near their friends and family. Based on their job, makes sense I guess. I could easily see many of those girls working in Makati or at greenbelt. Very quality I thought. One girl that I talked to was 20, no kids, and stood about 5'9". Long silky legs. I think she could have been a model.

The local place. Golden bell (or whatever it is called) had more province girls. Still fun, but spoke little or no English, seemed to wear less makeup, and were more "country girls". If that makes any sense. This reminded me of girls that I would find in Puerto Galera a few years back, or girls that you would find in the Olongopo years back.

Hope that helps

Anyone have any info on good AMP in santa rosa. Or any providers if there isn't.

[QUOTE=Driveallnight;1106742]I don't know if it's because of the factors you've cited here, but I agree: Mongering in PG sucks compared to other parts of Phils. Hardened girls who perform poorly, narrow selection, and you need to bum-rush the bars by 8-9pm if you want to beat the crowd and grab something decent. YMMV of course, but it's gotten so bad that I've started bringing talent with me from Manila and restricting my patronage of the PG discos to barhopping.[/QUOTE]I would take offence to that, but not too violently: I got some contacts in PG, who are essentially Manila Girls Free-lancing there, and have a steady stock of buyers. . Maybe that's why I am a bit spoilt for quality.

[QUOTE=Localboy; 1107143]I thought they were of pretty good quality overall. The clubs (Phoenix and the other one whose name I can't remember) had some really nice ones. Tall, sexy, spoke English well. Can't complain. All the girls that I talked to were from Manila or Cavite. They came to PP to work since its not near their friends and family. Based on their job, makes sense I guess. I could easily see many of those girls working in Makati or at greenbelt. Very quality I thought. One girl that I talked to was 20, no kids, and stood about 5'9". Long silky legs. I think she could have been a model.

The local place. Golden bell (or whatever it is called) had more province girls. Still fun, but spoke little or no English, seemed to wear less makeup, and were more "country girls". If that makes any sense. This reminded me of girls that I would find in Puerto Galera a few years back, or girls that you would find in the Olongopo years back.

Hope that helps[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Localboy; 1107143]I thought they were of pretty good quality overall. The clubs (Phoenix and the other one whose name I can't remember) had some really nice ones. Tall, sexy, spoke English well. Can't complain. All the girls that I talked to were from Manila or Cavite. They came to PP to work since its not near their friends and family. Based on their job, makes sense I guess. I could easily see many of those girls working in Makati or at greenbelt. Very quality I thought. One girl that I talked to was 20, no kids, and stood about 5'9". Long silky legs. I think she could have been a model.

The local place. Golden bell (or whatever it is called) had more province girls. Still fun, but spoke little or no English, seemed to wear less makeup, and were more "country girls". If that makes any sense. This reminded me of girls that I would find in Puerto Galera a few years back, or girls that you would find in the Olongopo years back.

Hope that helps[/QUOTE]I think the name is Echoes, is in Rizal Avenue near airport!

Any action or points of interest in Lapu Lapu as I'm escaping Sinulog in a decent beach resort as I'll be here till Sunday night when I'm returning back to BKK. I'd appreciate any tips / suggestions.

Thanks guys!

[QUOTE=Sprite13; 1112422]Any action or points of interest in Lapu Lapu as I'm escaping Sinulog in a decent beach resort as I'll be here till Sunday night when I'm returning back to BKK. I'd appreciate any tips / suggestions.

Thanks guys! [/QUOTE]Just to clarify for those not familiar. Lapu Lapu is the residential area on Mactan island where Cebu airport is located. It's a 200/350P 30/45 mins taxi ride from Cebu City. The girls can get between the two via jeep rides for say 40P taking say 1/1. 5 hours.

Most of the bars / clubs in Cebu are located in Cebu City. Lapu Lapu / Mactan has pretty limited nightlife options. Quite a few expats own or rent condos out in Mactan. As a rule of thumb the girls in LL are relatively conservative / provincial as the more open minded / naughty will tend to gravitate towards Cebu City where the nightlife is. There are some exceptions of course such as the girls who are / have in the past been live in GFs for the expats out there.

If you are using the dating sites you need to clarify whether girls are living in Cebu City or Mactan / Lapu Lapu or elsewhere in Provincial Cebu. In general girls will not be keen to travel between each of these areas unless they are very confident you exist, are truly in the Philippines, will treat them fairly, pay their fares etc because there are plenty of low life guys who find it fun to get a poor Filipina to travel an hour or two to meet him even though he may not actually be in the country / just intends to see what she looks like / wants to trick her into giving a "freebie" by telling her stories about how he is a "serious" guy looking for a wife etc.

I had a really fun / sexy girl I knew who was based in LL, but she has now moved to Prague. I do however have quite a few seemingly hot prospects from the dating sites who I did not get around to checking out face to face when I was in Cebu City. If you are interested to get their contact details just PM me, but I emphasis that I have not met these ones in person just on cam / texting so cannot vouch for whether they are really as hot as they claim to be etc.

Hey Greg,

Thans for the detailed reply. Tried to pm you about the prospects in Lapu Lapu but you've exceeded your pm capacity.

Would appreicate if you could swing some prospects here.

Cheers man.

[QUOTE=D Cups;1112428]Hi guys I met a DIA girl online (not F2F yet) who piques my curiosity. What's the mongering like there?[/QUOTE]I have been there and have not seen much? But I think in the main town there are some karoke?

But I went with a girl. And we walked around. I saw some potential for girls.

And also a friend met a really nice girl on dia and he said she was good. But I never heard of clubs out there?

Good water for snorkel and scuba. Out on the island, panglao? I think is the name.

[QUOTE=Sprite13; 1112578]Hey Greg,

Thans for the detailed reply. Tried to pm you about the prospects in Lapu Lapu but you've exceeded your pm capacity.

Would appreicate if you could swing some prospects here.

Cheers man. [/QUOTE]OK I've just deleted some messages. I wish Jackson would increase the inbox limit as 200 is not such a large no of messages for active users.

[QUOTE=GregLondon; 1112490]<SNIP

I do however have quite a few seemingly hot prospects from the dating sites who I did not get around to checking out face to face when I was in Cebu City. If you are interested to get their contact details just PM me, but I emphasis that I have not met these ones in person just on cam / texting so cannot vouch for whether they are really as hot as they claim to be etc. [/QUOTE]Greg I know this has been discussed before but I don't understand why you are doing this. You are just encouraging guys to be lazy. Surely they can do their own trawling on DIA etc and establish the bone fides of girls for themselves.

If it was someone that you had already trial driven that you were recommending then OK I could understand it but in essence you are just passing on addresses of girls you have met on DIA to guys I assume that you have never met.
I think those of us who have met a few other ISG members are happy to "share" but I would be leery of passing on details of some sweet girls to just anyone on here.

Seems weird to me.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1112586]Greg I know this has been discussed before but I don't understand why you are doing this. You are just encouraging guys to be lazy. Surely they can do their own trawling on DIA etc and establish the bone fides of girls for themselves.

If it was someone that you had already trial driven that you were recommending then OK I could understand it but in essence you are just passing on addresses of girls you have met on DIA to guys I assume that you have never met.

I think those of us who have met a few other ISG members are happy to "share" but I would be leery of passing on details of some sweet girls to just anyone on here.

Seems weird to me. [/QUOTE]I agree with you RK. I have already had guys PM me asking for details of girls I have met from my recent posts on the Cebu thread and one guy who I will not shame here, PM me asking me to share my techniques for meeting DIA girls. He has one post to his credit, how f*ing lazy is that!

If guys cannot meet girls in Cebu through their own meagre efforts, then humanity will fail and die out. Philippines is like shooting fish in a barrel, hell I was with a 70 year old pensioner from the UK yesterday and he was still pulling 25 year olds.

You guys crack me up sometimes.

At least being called "weird" is a step up from Rampada's suggestion that I am some sort of cheapo pimp. LOL.

I can however understand where you are coming from. We guys have been genetically programmed over the eons to be almost pathologically jealous regarding attractive women so when a guy offers to help out another with a few contacts it does seem "perverse" in a sense. However this is the Philippines and at least for those blessed with a working ATM card and a foreign face there is a super abundance of attractive prospects as you have both admitted so I think we can attempt to overcome our natural jealous, prospect guarding instincts.

Now let's step back here a little. We have a guy on his first trip to the Phils. He comes to Cebu perhaps never having heard of Sinolog or maybe thinking it will be a fun fiesta, rather than a time when prices are jacked up by 50% and everything is way overcrowded. He therefore decides to spend a few days at the end of his trip at a "Cebu" resort out in Mactan but then finds that all the babes are firmly attached to their rich BFs the security guards won't let the poor single girls inside. Being a long standing member of ISG with over 370 posts to his name (presumably some of which contain valuable bits of advice from his own area of expertise) , he figures he will politely ask the guys on ISG for some advice.

And what response does he get from long time Phils experts such as your good selves: Nothing apart from denouncing the one guy who attempts to help him out as a weirdo and intimating that he is "lazy" and should do his own homework and that to help him out would only encourage others to be equally "lazy".

I've sent this guy half a dozen YMs / Cell nos of girls I've found in Lapu Lapu over the last few months who were open minded and up for some compensated sexual encounters. I found them whilst searching for girls in Cebu City and only after chatting for a while discovered that they were infact based in LL and not keen on trekking out to meet me in CC. They seemed attractive enough on cam but as we all know you have to meet girls in person to find out what they are really like. I've no idea what kind of response he's going to get or whether any of them are going to turn out to be real winners but at least it's a useful start and with just 2 days left of his holiday in Cebu he hasn't got the luxury that both you guys and I have of spending weeks chatting to girls to sieve out the lady boys, scammers, single mums, girls who are infact in Angeles or Manila or back in their province, girls who are really looking for a "serious" relationship, girls who are twice as plump as their pic indicates, girls who are looking for 2000P a shot and all the rest. It's certainly not an ideal solution and if you have better plan go ahead and suggest it. For sure if you are a long term resident or experienced Phils operator you can probably work on some dates in the Mactan malls, but it's not the same as Ayala and SM where there are basically a bunch of girls who go there every day hunting for foreign P4P customers.

Cult tQUOTE=GregLondon; 1112698]You guys crack me up sometimes.

At least being called "weird" is a step up from Rampada's suggestion that I am some sort of cheapo pimp. LOL.

GL.

I am pretty sure RK does not mean you are weird in the personal sense, he was reffering to the concept of what you are doing. I know your heart is in the right place and I am always willing to help members, I have done so many times in the past. I don't really like giving details of girls I have met purely from the point of view that if something goes wrong with the encounter I will get the blame, either from the girl herself or from the ISG member.

Look what happened to another member who passed on details of a girl in good faith, she then went and gave the guy an STD and he flamed the guy that helped him on one of the Philp threads. It is difficult to judge a guy's credentials from posts he has made and I have met guys admittedly in the very small minority, whom I would never make a referral for, simply because I know they will treat the girls badly.

As for helping guys with DIA girls in general, I look at it from the point of view that I have invested many many hours of work to narrow down half a dozen good candidates for each of my visits, you get out of it what you put in. The guy you were helping is obviously a regular contributor and I was agreeing with RK about the general concept and not the individual member you helped out.

Anyway I don't agree with the reference cheapo pimp. All the girls on Mango Square tell me you are taking a 40% cut. LOL

[QUOTE=GregLondon; 1112698]

At least being called "weird" is a step up from Rampada's suggestion that I am some sort of cheapo pimp. LOL.

[/QUOTE]GL,

Can you PLEASE stop flaming me here?

I, myself announced and stopped flaming you long time ago and even exchange PM with you about that.

Thank you,

Ram

PS: To make it clear again: I NEVER and under ANY circumstances I told you a "cheapo pimp". Read my posts carefully before misinterpreting myself.

I for one am glad that there are members like GregLondon, Wicked Roger, and others, that are willing to pass on some of their own knowledge gained from previous experiences. After all, isn't that what this site is all about? Granted, there are some guys that will tell the girls about our forums here, or treat the girls badly, or blame the provider of the information for what they feel is a bad referral. But everyone should understand that not all have the same tastes. What one feels is a great girl, another might feel is not worth their time. I have not personnally received any contacts through this forum, but some have been offered. I have not been able to make the trip across the pond to enjoy the fruits of the Philippines in quite a while. But when I do return there again, I hope there will be ISG members willing to help me, if I need it.

HW

I lived in the area for a while. It was a great read, I was there with you in Footlights. LOL.

[QUOTE=IgoforAsian; 991377]There really isn't much info on La Union Province on ISG. I happened to be near San Fernando City, in La Union province, for a few of days on business, so I dropped in on an old friend of mine who is semi-retired and lives in the area. He is in his 60's, living off his US military pension, I'll call him Tom.

Just to the North of San Fernando is what used to be Wallace Air Force Base. The Americans moved out in 1991, now it's the Philippine military that run an air base there. Just south of San Fernando City, actually in Bauang, on MacArthur Highway, is a small strip of about 4 or 5 girly bars, which seem to be the remnants of the R 'and' R area back in the heyday when the US Military was here. There remains a small community of older white guys in the area, mainly Americans, many on military pensions, that have retired there and seem happy to hang out at the few bars, drink, and fondle and kiss the bargirls' tits.

The night I arrived, Tom meets me at my hotel and invites me to check out the "local cultural establishments". He takes me to Footlights nightclub, a girly bar! How did he know what I was thinking? The place is just south of San Fernando City, close to Bali Hai and Coconut Grove resort. It seems to be the best of the 4 or 5 girly bars in the area. There are also KTV bars nearby where there is some action to be had, but Tom prefers the straight-up girly bars.

We walk into Footlights around 7 pm, and all the girls cheer when he walks in. I guess he is well known there. He claims he has kissed every girl's breasts in the bar, and I don't doubt it. He has a Filipina gf for the past 8 years, so he is only allowed to touch and kiss the breasts of the bargirls. No boom-boom unless the GF is there for a 3some. Occasionally they go to Angeles for a 3some. Tom is hilarious. He's been in the Phils for over 30 years, and he has a ton of stories about bar girls, etc.

Anyways we sit down at a table close to the stage. The atmosphere is relaxed. There are about 5-10 girls on stage dancing in bikinis, and about 5-10 mingling around the tables with the customers, many who are a bit older. There were maybe 10-20 guys there, many seem like regulars. The music was not too bad, and not too loud. Every few songs, the girls switch; those on stage take a break and mingle with the customers, and the ones mingling around get on stage. The mamasan will ask you politely if you would like to buy a lady-drink, but if you say no, they leave you alone, no pressure.

Tom gives me the lowdown: Barfine is 1200 p, ladies drinks are 110 p, rum and coke is 70 p. Kiss of the breasts is 20 to 40 p. He actually has devised a cool way to pay for the breast kiss. He uses his cell phone to transfer load from his phone to the bargirl's phone, so that the bar doesn't get a cut! Wow! Amazing, the modern technology! Always carry lots of load, because the girls always need load!

We talk for a while with his buddy, who is also a retired American guy. He has this chick beside her,"Apple". She is 22, cute face, smiling, a bit of a party animal, seems like a real firecracker. She flashes her nice perky youthful breasts, and takes off her top for a while, to show off what she's got. Apple's sister comes by,"Heart". She is 26, also kinda cute, seems a bit calmer than Apple, but I think Apple is a bit cuter. Heart talks with me for a while; she obviously wants me to pay her barfine, but I wait, to see if better prospects will come my way.

Tom assures me that Heart and Apple are bisexual and quite happy to do a 3some. Hmm, something to keep in mind.

After about 5 rum and cokes, Tom offers me a lift back to my hotel. We get in his car, but I suddenly have the urge to go back to Footlights to get a girl, so he drops me off and I hop on a trike to go back. As soon as I walk in, Apple notices me and calls out my name from the stage and motions me over. The other guy left without her, so I guess she is all mine. The other girls don't seem as cute, so I ask her if she wants to leave with me. She flashes a big smile and says, let's go! So I take her out for 1200p – what a bargain! I ask her if she is hungry, she says yes, so we go to a beach resort very close by, the Bali Hai. We have a quick bite to eat there, get a trike, and head back to my hotel.

Back at my room, we both have a shower, and we hop in bed. She gives great boom-boom. I can't remember all the details, but she definitely knows what she is doing. About 30 min after the deed is done, we are just lying in bed, and she starts toying with me, and gets me hard again. She seems to want round 2 already! I'm in my early 40's, so I know at my age I won't be able to come again just yet. I know I will probably need a bit more time to recharge (unless I haven't had it for a long while, but I have been getting a lot of nooky for the past year). Anyway, I give it to her for a while, but no more cream in the pot for now, so we eventually fall asleep. About 5 am, I wake up a bit, and we go at it again, but this time I unload. Her performance is at least an 8 or 9 in my opinion.

She was a great in the sack, but not much emotional connection. She was a bit of an airhead, she seemed a bit spaced out in the morning. Not much between the ears I guess. Kind of hard to have a conversation, so I decide not to see her again.

Anyways, after a space cadet morning with Apple, I had to do some work with a bit of hangover. I get back to my hotel at 8 pm after long day. As soon as I get back to my room, Tom texts me to see if I want to go out again. Uh, sure, I guess. Geez, he parties pretty hard for an old guy.

So we go back to Footlights. This time I decide not to drink too much, because I don't want to go to work the next day with another hangover.

This night, Apple is not there, but I do notice another girl who strikes me as cute. She has just a hint of chubbiness, cute face, but she seems kind of nervous or distracted or something. No other girls tickle my fancy, so Tom and I decide to check out the other place across the street, I think it is called Stilettos. There are only 3 or 4 girls there, none look good, so we bolt out of there after one quick drink and go straight back to Footlights.

We have another couple of drinks. I mention to Tom that the slightly chubby one is cute to me. Tom seems to want to call it an early night, so to expedite matters, he tells the Mamasan I want to talk to her, so the girl gets off stage and talks to me. I'll call her Vanessa. She's 19, been at the bar 5 months. We chit chat for a bit. I ask her if she wants to go my hotel with me?"Ok"! Off we go for only 1200 p.

We get to my hotel. She says,"Last night you went with Apple, right?" Yes, how did you know?"Apple is my friend!" Hmm, ok. I gather maybe that's why she is a bit uncomfortable, doesn't want to intrude on her friend's turf. I try to reassure her that I'm not interested in Apple, only her!

She still seems a bit nervous or uncomfortable. I do my best to reassure her, try to make her at ease. I am actually feeling quite tired, but as soon as I turn out the lights, she goes at it! Great kisser, but I can taste a bit of nicotine. Turns out she has a pierced tongue.

Next the clothes come off. She has a perfect body, young, firm, tight, that only the under-22 girls seem to have. She gave such a great BJ, I almost lost it! I had to get her to stop! Then I go down on her, she had a great wet sweet puss.

Then she climbed on me and gave the ride of my life! Wow! She gave me a very passionate and vigorous cowgirl, for quite a long time. I hung on for a while to see if she could come with me. She seemed very close, but not quite, so finally I had to let go of my jets. She made me cum hard. I was amazed that she seemed to almost be there too. Usually it would take a lot of practice together to get the hang of coming together.

In the morning, she still seems kinda nervous or agitated or something. At least we can have a bit of conversation. I ask her a bit about her life. She lived with a Filipino guy for 2 years, starting at only 17. Some 40 year-old Aussie surfer guy saw her for a few months, but it didn't work out. He didn't mind that she worked at a club, but I guess he was seeing other girls, so she didn't like that. He lives in the Phils, with no obvious source of income. I'm curious how this guy can afford to just surf and screw bar girls, but Vanessa doesn't know. She alludes to some other situation or problem, but it does not involve a guy. I only found out later what it was.

She tells me she is picky with barfines, she'll only go if the guy is nice and not old. Nice to know. She hasn't gone on a barfine for 2 weeks before me, so the mileage is perhaps not too high.

Anyway, I ask if she would like to see me again that night, she says sure. She suggests I go back to the club to pay her barfine, but I say, why can't we just meet for dinner? She says ok, but you have to pay my barfine up front. She only gets 550p of it, the bar gets the rest. I guess the bar is savvy enough to know what she is doing if she doesn't show up. Geez, can't she just call in sick? So I give her 1500p, and tell her I'll text her when I'm done with work. I tell her I can taste cigarette when we kiss, and I get her to promise me she won't smoke during the time that she is with me.

We exchange a few texts over lunch while I'm working. At 4 pm, she goes to the bar to pay her own barfine. When I'm done at 5, she meets me at my hotel. We have a drink and watch the sunset. We decide to go to Coconut Grove resort for dinner. It might be slightly nicer than the place I'm at, but very similar. Plus it's close to Footlights, and she wants to drop by there after dinner. I am wondering why she is so keen to go to her work; I found out much later why! She says it's because she wants to talk with her cousin (I found out later this was a small white lie).

Anyways, we have dinner at Coconut Grove. It seems like a nice resort. She still seems a bit uncomfortable or distracted. I had already asked her if she wanted to come with me to a certain place elsewhere in the Philippines for a little vacation the following week Says she wants to, but she seemed so uncomfortable, that I tell her she doesn't have to if she doesn't want to. She says of course she wants to come. We talk about price. She says that she will have to give the bar her barfine for everyday she is away. I offer her 2000 p per day, but I would prefer she gets all of it, but apparently the bar has to get its cut.

We had another great boom-boom that night, similar to the previous. I try my luck again in the morning (because she makes me hard, such a great body, why not go for seconds?) Anyway, she seems shy to do it in daylight. Kind of cute. Still young and a bit low on miles I guess. I desist and do some paperwork.

To make along story short, I did end up taking her to another vacation spot in the Philippines the following week. We ended up chatting with another bargirl there one night, I'll call her BG #2. Vanessa did seem to settle down a bit, but she still seemed uncomfortable, so a few days later, I cut her loose. As soon as I do, she starts sending me texts,"I miss you", etc. Ah well, too late for that now. Strange how these Filipinas seem to communicate better by text rather than face to face.

A few days later, I spent a few days with BG #2, and she eventually told me that Vanessa was lesbian! She was surprised I didn't know, it was no big secret, so she thought. Vanessa has a live-in girlfriend (also a bar-girl) back home that she was missing, although they fight all the time. Ah-ha! That explains why she seemed so uncomfortable, and why she was so keen to go to her workplace that night. Anyway, she was still a great lay. I am amazed that a lesbian can give such a great BJ! Wow!

So that is my story on La Union. Probably not a true pooning destination, but if you happen to be in the area, there is some action to be had.

Cheers and happy pooning![/quote]

Yea, I agree with you hairy.

Went a few months ago. And all the info was a great help. Not everything worked out all the time. But I had a great time. Did and saw things I have allways wanted too. Yes I will do things differently on the next trip. But I paid for my learning experinces. And those are the best ones. You learn from your own memorys.

As far as DIA, Man you do have to invest lots of time to weed out what you are looking for. So good contacts that you can go to their profile and see if they hit your fancy would be helpfull.

I thank everybody who gave me advice. And I still owe DS a cantour of Richards, Wild Irish Rose.

GL didn't flame you. Does anyone think that GregLondon is provoking Rampana? If you read the whole post, it sounds like good hearted banter to me. I haven't read every post between the two, but I fail to see a reason for any continued antagonism. X.

[QUOTE=Rampana; 1112773]GL,

Can you PLEASE stop flaming me here?

I, myself announced and stopped flaming you long time ago and even exchange PM with you about that.

Thank you,

Ram.

PS: To make it clear again: I NEVER and under ANY circumstances I told you a "cheapo pimp". Read my posts carefully before misinterpreting myself.[/QUOTE]

I arrived in Cagayan De Oro yesterday from Cebu, the flight had been delayed by an hour and then we spent another 20 minutes sat on the runway waiting to take off. I didn't mind too much since the flight itself was well under an hour.

Phoned through to the Marco my usual place of abode in CDO but there was a problem with the booking and now they have no rooms available due to some business convention taking place there. A hotel rep at the airport offered a promotional rate of 1600 at the Country Village, a resort hotel in Camen about 15 minutes in a cab from downtown. As he was also offeing free transport there, I thought why not.

After checking in I was very disappointed, the hotel had seen much better days. The rooms were very tired, and the whole resort seemed like it had seen better days, however it did have a fairly decent swimming pool and free wi fi in the lobby. I came down from my room to use the wifi and then went into town for food. I dumped the T shirt and shorts put on a long sleeved shirt and chinos and headed off to the Laguna Cafe near Ayalla It is one of the nicest and most expensive restaraunts in CDO but I wanted to sit down in comfort and enjoy some decent food. Just as I was about to go in to the place there was a power cut affecting the whole block, leaving the restaraunt in complete darkness. Whether they had a problem with their generator or what, I don't know, but as other places seemed to get their power back quickly, the Laguna seemed to remain in darkness. I was in no mood to wait, I was starving hungry so headed across the street to the Golden Cowrie, what a big mistake that was. Probably the worst food I have ever been served since I started coming to the Philppines. The kankong arrived ahead of the main meal and I managed to eat that before the rest of the main course arrived. The rice was lukewarm and overcooked and the fried shrimp in garlic had so much oil left on it, that there was a pool of it on the base of the plate. I left the meal mostly uneaten, complained angrily to the manager before paying my bill and walking out. Finally ended up having a pizza, not quite what I had originally intended but I was too hungry to waste any more time and it wasn't too bad at all.

Had a walk round Divisoria at about 11pm and the place was teeming with very young street hookers many of them definitely jail bait. Actually this is the busiest I have seen Divisoria at this time of night with the hookers at least, they tend to hang out around one or two specific blocks west of Velez Street as you head South and before you get to the Bank De Oro. The same pimp I see every time I come here was hanging about the outside of the VIP hotel, offering girls at 1500 pesos. I chat with him everytime I see him, he even knows me by name but I have never taken a girl from him yet. Anyone who pays 1500 for a girl here is crazy since most girls are happy to let foreign men pay 500 for short time, still more than double what a Pinoy will pay. If a pimp or anyone else tries to charge you 1500, walk away because you are being ripped off.

There are many makeshift bars in the area that may seem very very seedy, but they are surprisingly friendly and I have yet to meet any foreigner who has had a problem there. In fact I would go so far as to say that CDO is one of the friendliest and safest places I have encountered in the Philippines and I have never felt uncomfortable even when walking around very late at night. There is not really much to recommend the place for visiting or a vacation, although as a mongering destination it has enormous potential if you like freelancers or regular girls. CDO is a convenient place to stop if you want to explore Mindanao or visit Camiguin, but the city itself is uninspiring to say the least.

Today I had breakfast at the hotel and it was terrible. Was told I could not have orange juice AND coffee, only one or the other. The free wifi which I really needed was not working and with that I went upstairs to pack and check out.

Met a girl today I have known for just over a year at Limketkai Mall. She is not my type, aged 27 and very slim but her face just dosen't do it for me though she is not ugly. She is a principled girl and I have never slept with her since she is looking to settle down and get married and won't sleep with a guy unless she is sure about him. I have been honest with her right from the start about my intentions but she is nice company, loyal and honest and she would actually make a great wife for someone. We went for food and I saw her off in a taxi late this afternoon. Had a walk round some of the less well known streets from Limketkai Mall to Divisoria and was stopped every half block or so my young girls wanting to chat. Two really cute, slim girls were sat outside a tin shack called home, I later learned they were sisters aged 18 and 21. We got chatting until their mom came out from inside the house, who was actually probably younger than me. She beckoned to the girls and said to me "you like them, they have no boyfriend you want?" They didn't have a cell phone and I was on my way back, but what an opportunity that I sadly had to decline. If you get a little off the main roads here, there are limitless opportunities to meet girls, all you need is a friendly smile and a willingness to stop and chat. I may return to the area tomorrow to exploit those opportunities.

Mortman

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1114064]I arrived in Cagayan De Oro yesterday from Cebu, the flight had been delayed by an hour and then we spent another 20 minutes sat on the runway waiting to take off. I didn't mind too much since the flight itself was well under an hour.

Phoned through to the Marco my usual place of abode in CDO but there was a problem with the booking and now they have no rooms available due to some business convention taking place there. A hotel rep at the airport offered a promotional rate of 1600 at the Country Village, a resort hotel in Camen about 15 minutes in a cab from downtown. As he was also offeing free transport there, I thought why not.

After checking in I was very disappointed, the hotel had seen much better days. The rooms were very tired, and the whole resort seemed like it had seen better days, however it did have a fairly decent swimming pool and free wi fi in the lobby. I came down from my room to use the wifi and then went into town for food. I dumped the T shirt and shorts put on a long sleeved shirt and chinos and headed off to the Laguna Cafe near Ayalla It is one of the nicest and most expensive restaraunts in CDO but I wanted to sit down in comfort and enjoy some decent food. Just as I was about to go in to the place there was a power cut affecting the whole block, leaving the restaraunt in complete darkness. Whether they had a problem with their generator or what, I don't know, but as other places seemed to get their power back quickly, the Laguna seemed to remain in darkness. I was in no mood to wait, I was starving hungry so headed across the street to the Golden Cowrie, what a big mistake that was. Probably the worst food I have ever been served since I started coming to the Philppines. The kankong arrived ahead of the main meal and I managed to eat that before the rest of the main course arrived. The rice was lukewarm and overcooked and the fried shrimp in garlic had so much oil left on it, that there was a pool of it on the base of the plate. I left the meal mostly uneaten, complained angrily to the manager before paying my bill and walking out. Finally ended up having a pizza, not quite what I had originally intended but I was too hungry to waste any more time and it wasn't too bad at all.

Had a walk round Divisoria at about 11pm and the place was teeming with very young street hookers many of them definitely jail bait. Actually this is the busiest I have seen Divisoria at this time of night with the hookers at least, they tend to hang out around one or two specific blocks west of Velez Street as you head South and before you get to the Bank De Oro. The same pimp I see every time I come here was hanging about the outside of the VIP hotel, offering girls at 1500 pesos. I chat with him everytime I see him, he even knows me by name but I have never taken a girl from him yet. Anyone who pays 1500 for a girl here is crazy since most girls are happy to let foreign men pay 500 for short time, still more than double what a Pinoy will pay. If a pimp or anyone else tries to charge you 1500, walk away because you are being ripped off.

There are many makeshift bars in the area that may seem very very seedy, but they are surprisingly friendly and I have yet to meet any foreigner who has had a problem there. In fact I would go so far as to say that CDO is one of the friendliest and safest places I have encountered in the Philippines and I have never felt uncomfortable even when walking around very late at night. There is not really much to recommend the place for visiting or a vacation, although as a mongering destination it has enormous potential if you like freelancers or regular girls. CDO is a convenient place to stop if you want to explore Mindanao or visit Camiguin, but the city itself is uninspiring to say the least.

Today I had breakfast at the hotel and it was terrible. Was told I could not have orange juice AND coffee, only one or the other. The free wifi which I really needed was not working and with that I went upstairs to pack and check out.

Met a girl today I have known for just over a year at Limketkai Mall. She is not my type, aged 27 and very slim but her face just dosen't do it for me though she is not ugly. She is a principled girl and I have never slept with her since she is looking to settle down and get married and won't sleep with a guy unless she is sure about him. I have been honest with her right from the start about my intentions but she is nice company, loyal and honest and she would actually make a great wife for someone. We went for food and I saw her off in a taxi late this afternoon. Had a walk round some of the less well known streets from Limketkai Mall to Divisoria and was stopped every half block or so my young girls wanting to chat. Two really cute, slim girls were sat outside a tin shack called home, I later learned they were sisters aged 18 and 21. We got chatting until their mom came out from inside the house, who was actually probably younger than me. She beckoned to the girls and said to me "you like them, they have no boyfriend you want?" They didn't have a cell phone and I was on my way back, but what an opportunity that I sadly had to decline. If you get a little off the main roads here, there are limitless opportunities to meet girls, all you need is a friendly smile and a willingness to stop and chat. I may return to the area tomorrow to exploit those opportunities.

Mortman[/QUOTE]Very interesting. I may have expand my horizons a bit. How much of an expat presence is there in CDO?

There is quite a large well established expat community here although to be honest, there is a large minority of guys living here off social security benefits or pensions, who have nothing better to do with their time, other than sit in cheap bars all day, drinking too much because they have nothing better to do and watching every penny they spend. Some of these guys look like they need a good bath and a change of clothes but I am sure every city in the Philippines has these kind of guys. Lots of decent guys here as well, you certainly will not be lonely if you need company.

I was out with an old friend of mine tonight who is from Holland and lives in CDO. We did a tour around all the girlie bars in CDO and I was surprised to find that there are large numbers of bars here, all located within a few blocks of each other West off Velez Street in Divisoria. I went to a club called Geon tonight, drinks were only 60 pesos for an SML and the was at least 15 girls available. Now I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder and judging beauty is a subjective thing, but I swear to God, the quality of the girls in this club would rival, if not better anything I have ever seen in Cebu and I have frequented most of the clubs in Cebu. In fact there seems to be as many bars here, as there are in Cebu City and Mandaue.

In Geon the girls were truly stunning but when I asked the bartender how much the bar fine was, I nearly fell off my chair laughing. Bar fine here is 3500 but maybe because it sits over the top of a Japanese restaraunt, I guess it attracts wealthy Japanese or Korean clients, but there were none in evidence in the club tonight.

In fact the club was semi full with local guys and though I really did like the girls, no way am I paying 3500 that is insane IMHO. We had a couple of beers and left. Next stop was a larger club called Nu Wave, girls were of good quality but the bar fine again was 3500. My Dutch friend who lives here tells me this is the standard going rate now in most of the bars, but Hot Babes let me bar fine a girl last year for 1000. Hot Babes is still open but it was getting late and I was ready to go home and sleep.

Divisoria and the few blocks just off Velez Street have a very lively street hooker scene and there are a wealth of bars available with some top quality girls, some of them model material. I will try and visit some of the other bars later this week and I will add some further FR's

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1114202]There is quite a large well established expat community here although to be honest, there is a large minority of guys living here off social security benefits or pensions, who have nothing to do than sit in cheap bars all day, drinking too much because they have nothing better to do and watching every penny they spend. Some of these guys look like they need a good bath and a change of clothes but I am sure every city in the Philippines has these kind of guys. Lots of decent guys here as well, you certainly will not be lonely if you need company.

I was out with an old friend of mine tonight who is from Holland and lives in CDO. We did a tour around all the girlie bars in CDO and I was surprised to find that there are large numbers of bars here, all located within a few blocks of each other West off Velez Street in Divisoria. I went to a club called Geon tonight, drinks were only 60 pesos for an SML and the was at least 15 girls available. Now I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder and judging beauty is a subjective thing, but I sear to God, the quality of the girls in this club would rival, if not better anything I have ever seen in Cebu and I have frequented most of the clubs in Cebu. In fact there seems to be as many bars here, as there are in Cebu City and Mandaue.

In Geon the girls were truly stunning but when I asked the bartender how much the bar fine was, I nearly fell off my chair laughing. Bar fine here is 3500 but maybe because it sits over the top of a Japanese restaraunt, I guess it attracts wealthy Japanese or Korean clients, but there were none in evidence in the club tonight.

In fact the club was semi full with local guys and though I really did like the girls, no way am I paying 3500 that is insane IMHO. We had a couple of beers and left. Next stop was a larger club called Nu Wave, girls were of good quality but the bar fine again was 3500. My Dutch friend who lives here tells me this is the standard going rate now in most of the bars, but Hot Babes let me bar fine a girl last year for 1000. Hot Babes is still open but it was getting late and I was ready to go home and sleep.

Divisoria and the few blocks just off Velez Street have a very lively street hooker scene and there are a wealth of bars available with some top quality girls, some of them model material. I will try and visit some of the other bars later this week and I will add some further FR's[/QUOTE]Tons of excellent info already mate. Much appreciated. Wherever I go, I'll probably opt for as many DIA hookups as possible rather than the bar scene though, which I'm not a fan of really. I had heard the girls in Mindanao are a lot more conservative and harder to approach, or at least less willing to jump in the sack with some foreign guy, but apparently this isn't the case, at least not in CDO. Thanks again for the tips.

G. G, I suggest you read the posts here: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3123-Cagayan-De-Oro-City[/url]

I know Mortman and he is a young good looking guy with a lot of charm. Does a lot better with the cuties than I do. You might be a hansum man also, but Dragon Slayer's posts are interesting and might give you a different outlook on DIA girls in CDO.

[QUOTE=David_33; 1114212]G. G, I suggest you read the posts here:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3123-Cagayan-De-Oro-City[/url]

I know Mortman and he is a young good looking guy with a lot of charm. Does a lot better with the cuties than I do. You might be a hansum man also, but Dragon Slayer's posts are interesting and might give you a different outlook on DIA girls in CDO. [/QUOTE]Coolio. Thanks a lot mate!

David33

I wish the girls in my own country thought the same as the girls in the Philippines, then I might really start believing I am a handsome man!

I deleted a post about CDO and I have added it to DS's board as he has a dedicated CDO thread.

Mortman

[QUOTE=Driveallnight;1106742]I don't know if it's because of the factors you've cited here, but I agree: Mongering in PG sucks compared to other parts of Phils. Hardened girls who perform poorly, narrow selection, and you need to bum-rush the bars by 8-9pm if you want to beat the crowd and grab something decent. YMMV of course, but it's gotten so bad that I've started bringing talent with me from Manila and restricting my patronage of the PG discos to barhopping.[/QUOTE]D. A. N,

I have to admit that I have no point of reference as far as PG history is concerned, but based on my visit the week before Christmas I would tend to agree with your assessment of the talent in P. G. I had read all the info available here about P. G. And even contacted a couple of friends that had visited in Sep / Oct. What I found was a relatively small selection and you are correct about the impact made by the Korean contingent. I spoke with one of the girls, who turned down my BF offer and when I asked why, she told me that she had already "promised" someone to see them that night. When I asked why she was still in the bar, she didn't know, other than a big group of Korean guys came in, bar fined about 10 gals, paid the fine, then left and told them the would be back later.

I hadn't thought of this technique, but maybe it works pretty good for everyone.

I plan to go back in the next couple of months and we will see how that works out.

I do think that arranging a massage from one of the free lancers or when one of the massage girls gets off work might be another avenue to pursue, although I am not sure if that "quality" level meets everyone's desires.

All this means is that there is just more research to be done. Work, work, work. It just never ends!

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder; 1115221]I spoke with one of the girls, who turned down my BF offer and when I asked why, she told me that she had already "promised" someone to see them that night. When I asked why she was still in the bar, she didn't know, other than a big group of Korean guys came in, bar fined about 10 gals, paid the fine, then left and told them the would be back later.

I hadn't thought of this technique, but maybe it works pretty good for everyone.[/QUOTE]I recently heard of one this from one of my friends who is a big Pattaya guy. What you do is pay half of the bar fine to reserve the girl. Then you return later to pay the balance and collect the girl if you decide she is the one. The idea being you are free to shop other venues and return if you don't find anything better.

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder;1115221]but based on my visit the week before Christmas[/QUOTE]Rule No. 1:

Never ever travel between Dec. 15 and Jan. 15!

By far the worst time of the year (that applies for every country in the world).

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder; 1115221]D. A. N,

I have to admit that I have no point of reference as far as PG history is concerned, but based on my visit the week before Christmas I would tend to agree with your assessment of the talent in P. G. I had read all the info available here about P. G. And even contacted a couple of friends that had visited in Sep / Oct. What I found was a relatively small selection and you are correct about the impact made by the Korean contingent. I spoke with one of the girls, who turned down my BF offer and when I asked why, she told me that she had already "promised" someone to see them that night. When I asked why she was still in the bar, she didn't know, other than a big group of Korean guys came in, bar fined about 10 gals, paid the fine, then left and told them the would be back later.

I hadn't thought of this technique, but maybe it works pretty good for everyone.

I plan to go back in the next couple of months and we will see how that works out.

I do think that arranging a massage from one of the free lancers or when one of the massage girls gets off work might be another avenue to pursue, although I am not sure if that "quality" level meets everyone's desires.

All this means is that there is just more research to be done. Work, work, work. It just never ends! [/QUOTE]Hey SR-

I just spent 6 nights in Sabang about a week ago. Barhopped every night with a buddy of mine who lives there, and I only barfined once. Limited choices, and what was available seldom had the right attitude.

So I stand by my previous words concerning mongering in PG. And I don't think I'll ever visit the place again without bringing some takeout with me from Manila.

I read somewhere that you can get a direct flight from Manila to El Nido. Anybody have pointers to the airline (s)? Any ideas on price?

[QUOTE=Irony Monger;1117906]I read somewhere that you can get a direct flight from Manila to El Nido. Anybody have pointers to the airline (s)? Any ideas on price?[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.flyseair.com/[/url]

Just left the Sabang area after a week of partying.

I thought it was good. There's a complaint of the limited selection. Well it definitely isn't the size of Angeles. There are 6 girlie bars; maybe couple of hundred instead of thousands of girls. There should be a couple you can find. They still cost 2,000 pesos total (1,000 barfine and 1,000 tip).

There's also a complaint of Koreans coming in early and reserving the best girls. Well, duh; that occurs everywhere, especially in high season and not just with the Koreans. I hope it's just the Euros and Aussies whining; I believe in the American spirit of competition - "sink or swim", "early bird gets the worm", "you snooze you lose". I say compete and win. Come in half an hour earlier.

I love the 50 or 60 pesos beers in the girlie bars; 35 peso beers at other bars; it can be cheap to become an alcoholic. LOL!

[QUOTE=GreenBud; 1117924]Just left the Sabang area after a week of partying.

I thought it was good. There's a complaint of the limited selection. Well it definitely isn't the size of Angeles. There are 6 girlie bars; maybe couple of hundred instead of thousands of girls. There should be a couple you can find. They still cost 2, 000 pesos total (1, 000 barfine and 1, 000 tip).

There's also a complaint of Koreans coming in early and reserving the best girls. Well, duh; that occurs everywhere, especially in high season and not just with the Koreans. I hope it's just the Euros and Aussies whining; I believe in the American spirit of competition."sink or swim","early bird gets the worm","you snooze you lose". I say compete and win. Come in half an hour earlier.

I love the 50 or 60 pesos beers in the girlie bars; 35 peso beers at other bars; it can be cheap to become an alcoholic. LOL! [/QUOTE]G. B,

Thanks for the heads up, and I agree with another comment that I was there at a "bad" time. At least now I know the "program" and will be better equipped to maximize my "fun quotient" on the next visit. Can't wait!

I also enjoyed the cheap beer and for the most part the beach setting is right up my alley. I try not to set my goals too high when it comes to "company" as long as it is for one night only. If I had brought my own sand to the beach, well different story.

Sky

Recently spent three weeks in PI (end of Dec / beg Jan). Don't really have anything of value to add for Manila or Cebu, just meeting CB girls and hitting on regular girls. Met with WR in Cebu, great guy and willing to help in many ways. Seems to know many girls there. Spent time in Palawan but nothing to add since with a girl. Same for Bantayan Island.

Did spend three nights in Tacloban. Although I had some CB contacts it was completely random. Literally bought a ticket on 30th and flew there on 31st. Stayed at Leyte Park Resort since I assumed it was the nicest place there. Probably was a kickass place 20 years ago but now it's dated, worn down and in serious need of updating. They do have a few villa types with private pools and renovated recently but they go for over US$200 per night. My cottage was around 2600P per night. The seafood restaurant was closed under reno and the regular restaurant served medicore and relatively overpriced food. Did not check out the bar. Several foreigners staying there but all appeared to have come as couples with pinay GF / wives.

Out of about dozen that I texted, more than half did not live in the city or anywhere near it. They admitted they just put Tacloban because they figure guys would recognize it. Of course I hadn't spent much time messaging them beforehand not thinking I would actually go there so no big deal. They all seemed more than willing to catch the bus for couple hrs to meet but being New Years and constant rain seemed to make it difficult. But who really knows. The ones that actually lived in the city all turned up to meet. The girls, at least the ones I met, seemed much more conservative than the girls in Cebu or Manila. Outside of the hotel in places like the mall, I saw virtually no foreigners. Could have been time of the year also.

As far as girls go, the CB girls I met took at least two or three dates before I could get them in bed. I met and spent time with them anyway since I got to do some interesting things (at least for me) like seeing how they live. I mean I really had no idea until I saw the room one of the girls lived in. It was size of a little closet and was meant for two. She slept on a mini makeshift bunkbed with no padding whatsoever. I did peak at a bar with girls wearing plaid school uniform type skirts but did not investigate. The goldmine seems to be the regular girls at malls. I'm an Asian guy in my 30's and I have never had one girl approach me in Manila or Cebu in two trips. In Tacloban, I was constantly getting approached while I was killing time in the malls waiting for CB girls. Now I'm not talking about working girls cruising the mall like I have seen in Cebu or Manila but just regular girls who actually work at the stores. So a caucasian guy should have a field day here theoretically. Because one of the CB girls is a gem I like to see again, I may just go back next trip and work the mall more. May also check out that bar if just to provide info here.

I've gotten girls from a few Sabang discos (Broadway, Venus, Pussycat). All moderate to good to great GFE. But on my last trip I got a quick trickster out of Sabang Disco (coming from the main road into town, it the first one on the left). Barfined her, took her the hotel. She was quick about it, zero GFE, bad attitude, and finished in about 1/2 and hour. Then she puts her clothes on, makes an excuse about having a brother in town who is in trouble and says she has to go. So I say ok and I give her 500 (1000 is expected for overnight). So she complains and I say, ok, lets go talk to your mama. Walk quickly back to Sabang Disco with her babbling on her cellphone behind and find that the mama is equally not interested in customer service. Had to create a scene in front of the disco. To avoid dealing with the small-town cops that they threatened, I paid the 1000 and chalked it up as a bad experience.

But then I walked back and chatted with my hotel guard who had seen the whole thing and he said that there had recently been a similar situation from Sabang Disco with a Japanese guest. Also I realized that some of my friends had gotten girls from there with either bad attitudes or who had tried sob stories to get them to give extra money (like one that wanted to help her parents with a sick cow). Either way, I won't be visiting that disco again.

Anyone planning on going to El Nido? I was in Palawan recently but did not make it all the way to El Nido. I have (2) nights credit at the 5 star resort Miniloc Island that I would like to sell. The credit is PHP9, 430 nett x 2 nights. I will sell it for PHP10, 000.

Here are some links below about resort. Let me know if your interested.

[url]http://www.elnidoresorts.com/[/url]

[url]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Rev...o_Palawan.html[/url]

[url]http://www.google.com/images?q=minil...w=1007&bih=479[/url]

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[QUOTE=Toronto;1120968]Stayed at Leyte Park Resort since I assumed it was the nicest place there. Probably was a kickass place 20 years ago but now it's dated, worn down and in serious need of updating. They do have a few villa types with private pools and renovated recently but they go for over US$200 per night. My cottage was around 2600P per night. The seafood restaurant was closed under reno and the regular restaurant served medicore and relatively overpriced food. Did not check out the bar. Several foreigners staying there but all appeared to have come as couples with pinay GF / wives.[/QUOTE]I think this is a common theme. So many stay at Leyte Park ONCE based on undeserved / outdated reputation. I'd not stay there again. Only thing it has going for it is the pool and the waterfront location.

IMO best hotel in town is Alejandro by a rather wide margin. I've received good recommendations for Rosenvil Pensione but I've not stayed there myself, staying Alejandro again on my trip this week.

[QUOTE=Mongrinastrlnd;1121218]IMO best hotel in town is Alejandro by a rather wide margin. I've received good recommendations for Rosenvil Pensione but I've not stayed there myself, staying Alejandro again on my trip this week.[/QUOTE]I agree, not staying there again. Couple of the girls did mention Hotel Alejandro to me but did not go check it out. What are the rates there? I will probably stay there as well when I go back.

[QUOTE=Toronto;1121238]I agree, not staying there again. Couple of the girls did mention Hotel Alejandro to me but did not go check it out. What are the rates there? I will probably stay there as well when I go back.[/QUOTE]The executive rooms (ones with double / queen beds) were about 1600 / night as I recall, the ones with twins are 1000-1300.

Hi Guys,

Just some Information about Boracay. Just back since Sunday, spend there more than one week and didn't bring any girls.

There are at least 4 places to meet the ladies:

Cocomangas: Its a disco on the main Road opposite Guilys island. Around 10- 20 FL there, partially really good looking. Took 4 evenings FL from there. ST or LT doesn't make any difference regarding price. Prices start with 2. 000 but I paid 2. 500 as well, too horny to refuse and no more bargaining possible.

Summer Place: Between Boatstation 2 and 3 at the walking path. Girls around the same price then Cocomangas. Have been there one time only and picked up two ladies. Bad experience, lots of Donts, so I saif them goodbuy without finishing. But I'm sure to get good girls there as well.

Attention: On the wa to Summerplace some girls will approach you. If you tell them to come with you and enter summerplace most of them will refuse (too loud, too hot inside,.) : These ladies are ladyboys, met some traveller who picked up these "girls", all of them have been ladyboys. Same BTW at Charles Bar, most of them Ladyboys. So take care if don't want to experience this!

Karaoke Bar: Littel bit difficult to find: If you are on the Main Road at station 2 go south until a sign on the right hand side with shows a way to the left side towards Fishermans Farm. Go this way app. 5 min, then you will find a Karaoke Bar on the left hand side. Have been there one time, was asked for ladies but I was too drunken.

Bar after Karaoke Bar. Wen there before I went to Karaoke Bar. Inside ordered a drink and was asked for a girl. Checked the ladies, choose one of them, reall stunner but nice as well. Invited her for a drink, then she told me the price is 3. 500 ST or LT. Too much for me this night, was already too drunken. Definitly wirth a visit.

Have fun guys on Boracay, a beautiful Island!

Cheerz,

Flo69

Hi Guys, I'll be passing through the Philippines again next month and have two days landing in Friday in Manila about 6 AM and leaving Manila Sunday 3 PM. Thought of catching a flight to Puerto Princessa spending Friday and Saturday exploring. I think that may not be enough time to see the caves and maybe even meet some FL in town. Stil working on BYOC. I'm worried I'm trying to do too much with not enough time.

The alternative is 2 nights in AC where girls and fun are guaranteed, but been there so many times it is getting old.

Been to PG and considering as another alternative, also thinking of Subic. Any suggestions?

Coron. Places and rates.

Here is a quick update of Coron on the island of Busuanga. I had 3 days to kill here and this is what I found.

Went to a little bar near the the center of town just kitty corner from the open square in front of the tourism center. The bars name of Cathy's. Place had about 20 women all just sitting around texting and combing their hair. I was the only customer in there at about 9pm on a Tuesday night (the town pretty much closes up at 10PM). There was a fat "Kathoey" and I use that term loosey, named Robbi who was also working there. Sat down and had a drink. No one approached me and I had a bit of a hard time making eye contact with some of the girls. Finally got one and motioned for her to come over. After a bit of chit chat, she told me the rate was p2000 for short time and that was for 3 hours. If you wanted long time, then it was just a multiple of that. P4000 for 6 hours, p6000 for 9 hours. Rate was not negotiatable. Or at least they were not negotiating with me. I was also told that every girl had her own rate. The lowest girls were p1500 for 3 hours plus tip or p2000 for 3 hours no tip. I finished my coke and left.

Next I tried Hard Rock Disco. It's not hard to find. Pretty close to the center of town and all the tricycle drivers know it. Was quoted a rate here of p2000 for long time. I know it's a bit high but I was wanting some action in this little one horse town. They agreed but I was short on cash so I went to the atm. When I got back the rate had jumped to p3000 for longtime. Why? I told them I was staying at the diving resort across the bay. It's about a 10 minute boatride from the pier. Boat transfers back and forth are free because the resort runs the shuttle back and forth. The boat stops running at 10pm. The reason I got was that it was "Management's policy" WTF? This resort is not that far way not p1000 far away. The nice thing about this is that it prevents the girl from pulling a runner. I don't know what the real reason was. Is there a scam that they run here most of the time and it requires the girl being able to leave? Was everyone really scared of being seperated from town? I don't know. It sounded like a lot of bullshit so I just left.

I did not see any Street walkers or freelancers. If anyone has any additional info on Coron, please let me know. I still have another day here.

[QUOTE=Asia Smiles; 1123867]Hi Guys, I'll be passing through the Philippines again next month and have two days landing in Friday in Manila about 6 AM and leaving Manila Sunday 3 PM. Thought of catching a flight to Puerto Princessa spending Friday and Saturday exploring. I think that may not be enough time to see the caves and maybe even meet some FL in town. Stil working on BYOC. I'm worried I'm trying to do too much with not enough time.

The alternative is 2 nights in AC where girls and fun are guaranteed, but been there so many times it is getting old.

Been to PG and considering as another alternative, also thinking of Subic. Any suggestions? [/QUOTE]If AC is getting old, then I would recommend Sabang, Puerto Galera. Subic is also good. Sabang has the better beaches / islands; Subic has more girlie bars, but 7 girlie bars in Sabang is enough, IMO.

If you get into Manila at 6 AM, you can catch the Si-Kat shuttle at 8:45 AM? from the City State Tower hotel in Manila. On the way back, the Si-Kat shuttle will return between 12:30 - 1:00 PM; you might cut it too close. For more comfort and a more reliable time, you can get a private car for the transportation between Batanagas pier and Manila airport.

[QUOTE=GreenBud; 1124001]If AC is getting old, then I would recommend Sabang, Puerto Galera. Subic is also good. Sabang has the better beaches / islands; Subic has more girlie bars, but 7 girlie bars in Sabang is enough, IMO.

If you get into Manila at 6 AM, you can catch the Si-Kat shuttle at 8:45 AM? From the City State Tower hotel in Manila. On the way back, the Si-Kat shuttle will return between 12:30. 1:00 PM; you might cut it too close. For more comfort and a more reliable time, you can get a private car for the transportation between Batanagas pier and Manila airport. [/QUOTE]Thanks GreenBud. Sabang might be my best bet for two days because of the flexibility. Subic is nice but the diving in Sabang was awesome about 3 years ago.

I think I'm just cutting it too close to go to the caves in Palawan.

Went into town again last night. Found two more places. A video Karioke bar called Sea Front. About 12-15 girls here to choose from. Again quoted the same rates p1500 for 3 hours. No one did long time. Went to another place called D's Music box. Only 5 women here to choose from. Rates again p1500 for 3 hours. Long time rate was quoted at p4000. Tricle driver seemed to confirm what I was told the other night at the Hard Rock Disco. Double for all night. I probably could have chewed that p4000 down to p3000. So the rate seems to be p1500 for 3 hours, p3000 for all night. Most girls don't do all night. Looks like they make plenty of money doing just short time. Also they did not seem that eager to make a sale or negotiate the price. This seemed to be a common theme here actually. Not much negotiating. The prices are more or less straight forward on a lot of things. Tricyle anywhere in town is p10 although they will ask for p20. Round trip ride to the hotspring and back is p300. No one seemed willing to negotiate on that. Negotiate your rates with your dive shop and hotel before you get here. I found out one of the guests at the resort I was at ended up paying about $20 per dive where I ended up paying about $30. They told him gear rental and park fees were included in the price they gave him while they tacked those onto my bill. Will not dive with Dive Cal again. Owner, is a westerner, but apparently he's been here long enough to have been "localized".

Anybody stay at this hotel in Boracay?

Le Soleil De Boracay. [url]http://www.lesoleil.com.ph/[/url]

It looks nice and reasonably priced, but would like some first hand opinions (or alternative suggestions). Don't want to spend more than $100 / night (Le Soleil is less than that on hotels. Com) , and want to be either on the beach or a stone's throw away.

I am assuming any hotel there will be girl-friendly, not that it matters as I am bringing my own, but she mentioned that she might want to do a threesome, so keeping my fingers crossed.

[QUOTE=Irony Monger; 1131921]Anybody stay at this hotel in Boracay?

Le Soleil De Boracay.

[url]http://www.lesoleil.com.ph/[/url]

It looks nice and reasonably priced, but would like some first hand opinions (or alternative suggestions). Don't want to spend more than $100 / night (Le Soleil is less than that on hotels. Com) , and want to be either on the beach or a stone's throw away.

I am assuming any hotel there will be girl-friendly, not that it matters as I am bringing my own, but she mentioned that she might want to do a threesome, so keeping my fingers crossed. [/QUOTE]You may want to try Red Coconut hotel as a possible alternative. Booked through Agoda. I have stayed there twice. Right on the beach at Station 2.

[QUOTE=Python75;1131963]You may want to try Red Coconut hotel as a possible alternative. Booked through Agoda. I have stayed there twice. Right on the beach at Station 2.[/QUOTE]

I stayed at Le Soleil last year with my manila gf. It is very well located, right in the center of White Beach, and the rooms are comfortable, especially if you have one overlooking the pool area. The food is adequate, with an acceptable, but not fantastic breakfast buffet. The only downside I noticed is that the resort does seem to host quite a few large-ish tour groups / families from Taiwan / China (at least when I was there) which can make the dining room a tad busy / noisy in the morning. Other than that, a very reasonable place to stay.

Manta Ray

[QUOTE=Manta Ray; 1131978]I stayed at Le Soleil last year with my manila gf. It is very well located, right in the center of White Beach, and the rooms are comfortable, especially if you have one overlooking the pool area. The food is adequate, with an acceptable, but not fantastic breakfast buffet. The only downside I noticed is that the resort does seem to host quite a few large-ish tour groups / families from Taiwan / China (at least when I was there) which can make the dining room a tad busy / noisy in the morning. Other than that, a very reasonable place to stay.

Manta Ray[/QUOTE]My fave was and is Boracay Beach Club [url]www.boracaybeachclub.com[/url]. They do complete service, from Kalibo or Caticlan, plus their restaurant is good. And it didn't help the next door was "Obama Grill" (change you want, change you get.)

They add in complimentary massage and a sail boat trip + a visit to their sort of private island. Not crowded, nice pool and since they own the beachfront across the hotel. Was very private.

Twice in a row, I felt happy. And the prices were good. .

Thanks Econo Tech, Manta Ray, and Python 75. Since I have heard no horror stories about Le Soleil, I think I'll stay there. Will post my report in May when I return. I'll also do a walk by the other recommendations and scout them out for future possible stays.

With a country of thousands of islands and beaches, I know there must be a special gem out there that for obvious reason is being kept secret.

A place that has NICE beach, nice decent hotels, a small girl scene, or close to a place to take out girls, a few restaurants?

Not Boracy, Sabang, PG, Subic, Mac Tan?

Please pm with some info, or post.

Thanks,

VD

It is on the north east end of CEBU. 4 hours by bus then a boat hop, I love the Busrides personally. I was there 2 years ago. Cheap beautiful, take awlak around the island and see real villagers I took many pictures. Not sure of any pro or pro am action perhaps best to bring one.

Cheap and there is a fantastic little resturant int he middle of this small island that makes the best food at the cheapest prices.

And Shark island is close and has good diving I hear.

Great place.

Hi all. I am going ot be spending alot of time in the illagan region and have developing some lands and a neat business there.

Don't know much about these places, any counsel is approeciatted, I know of the dangers and I am covered there.

I am well travelled in Manila Cebu, Davao, although I can't ever seem to get laid in Davoa.

Been to much of the rest of the Phils. Feel free to ask.

PP

Never been there but had an Iligan girl come to CDO for a week. She "hates" the Muslims there and considers them "thugs" as in gangs. A forigner got shot and killed on a jeepney by a Muslim.

Late year. Watch your back.

Guys, don't "flame" the messenger.

[QUOTE=Pinaypounder; 1146222]Hi all. I am going ot be spending alot of time in the illagan region and have developing some lands and a neat business there.

Don't know much about these places, any counsel is approeciatted, I know of the dangers and I am covered there.

I am well travelled in Manila Cebu, Davao, although I can't ever seem to get laid in Davoa.

Been to much of the rest of the Phils. Feel free to ask.

PP[/QUOTE]

The Visayas is like a necklace of gems all strung together in a wedge separating Luzon from Mindanao. Both Luzon (far North and Far Southeast) and Mindanao (All along the East coast) have some excellent beaches too, but the real gems are in Visayas (Palawan too but I know it much less well).

IMHO Malapascua is WAY overrated, small and crowded with parked boats blocking most of the beach, smoky from fires, and with shit diving no better than the rubble of Mactan). It has nice White sand and deep blue water, however. Try Bantayan Island, about an hour South of Malapascua, instead. Or Bohol and Camgiuin just Southeast of Cebu. Or the Camotes islands to the Northeast. Or Romblon to the Northwest. Or Negros to the West which has its most epic beach (Sipalay) on the West coast. 3 hours from an airport or port, but has many others of quality, no doubt as I saw many on the coast, both from Bacolod in the North to Dumaguette in the South-we did an open jaw. Even the small islands just North of Boracay like Carabao Island offer escapes from the hordes.

Sabang beach in Puerto Galera is shit. Compared to Subic or Malate, its ok I guess, but no need to swim there when about 30 minutes trike ride West, just past White beach, lies the real World class beach of Northern Mindoro Aninuan. No pics of Sabang to compare but Aninuan is sublime. White Beach is 10 times better than Sabang, but it is quite developed and crowded; but hike 15 minutes further West over the rocks, or 5 minutes along the road by trike. First pics are White beach from the restaurant on the hill on the way to Aninuan, then Aninuan itself. GREAT restaurants, best outside Makati, around PG.

I was in Boracay for a few days last week, and thought I would post a quick review of the hotel I stayed at: Le Soleil de Boracay ([url]http://www.lesoleil.com.ph/[/url]).

I booked through hotels.com vs. the le soleil hotel website, as the rate was cheaper for the superior deluxe room ($94 / night vs. PHP 6000 aka $140 / night).

The hotel is right in the middle of white beach, which made it very convenient. They have lounge chairs and umbrellas right on the beach during the day, then replace them with tables and chairs for their dinner buffet every night.

The room came with breakfast, and I found their breakfast buffet satisfactory, with a decent selection of the usual (eggs, sausage, fruit, breads, etc.) , though I would not call it a regal spread by any means.

The room I got was on the first floor next to the pool. This was convenient, but not very private. The result was that I kept the window blind closed most of the time, resulting in a very dark room. This of course is fine for engaging in extracurricular activities, but made it all but impossible to get good lighting for indoor photography (I prefer sunlight to flashes).

The superior deluxe room comes with one double bed and one twin bed. The double was adequate for a large westerner plus a small filipina, though I would have preferred a king or queen bed. The extra single bed only saw use as a luggage storage accessory. I don't know why they don't offer larger beds in non-suite rooms. They should just get rid of the extra single and put in queens.

The bathroom had the usual sink and toilet. Not a lot of counter space though. The shower was a large walk-in variety with room for two, a feature I definitely took advantage of ;)

There is no internet in the rooms, though there is public wifi available in the lobby and at the pool. However, it was very slow and kept timing out regularly. I ended up just sticking to my SmartBro wireless adapter as it was faster and more reliable.

What else...CRT for a television vs. flat screen, but no big deal there. Had the usual type of in room safe that seemed...well, somewhat safe. The air conditioning worked well, but was a bit loud. The pool bar makes an ok margarita, but better ones are available at most of the bars along the beach.

Would I stay there again? Maybe. The price was right, and nothing about the hotel was bad except the internet access, but I would much prefer a larger bed, a bit more privacy, and a beach view vs. A pool view. To be honest, even thought I was not unsatisfied by any means, I'll probably look elsewhere next time.

[QUOTE=Surfer; 1147661]The Visayas is like a necklace of gems all strung together in a wedge separating Luzon from Mindanao. Both Luzon (far North and Far Southeast) and Mindanao (All along the East coast) have some excellent beaches too, but the real gems are in Visayas (Palawan too but I know it much less well).

IMHO Malapascua is WAY overrated, small and crowded with parked boats blocking most of the beach, smoky from fires, and with shit diving no better than the rubble of Mactan). It has nice White sand and deep blue water, however. Try Bantayan Island, about an hour South of Malapascua, instead. Or Bohol and Camgiuin just Southeast of Cebu. Or the Camotes islands to the Northeast. Or Romblon to the Northwest. Or Negros to the West which has its most epic beach (Sipalay) on the West coast. 3 hours from an airport or port, but has many others of quality, no doubt as I saw many on the coast, both from Bacolod in the North to Dumaguette in the South-we did an open jaw. Even the small islands just North of Boracay like Carabao Island offer escapes from the hordes.

Sabang beach in Puerto Galera is shit. Compared to Subic or Malate, its ok I guess, but no need to swim there when about 30 minutes trike ride West, just past White beach, lies the real World class beach of Northern Mindoro Aninuan. No pics of Sabang to compare but Aninuan is sublime. White Beach is 10 times better than Sabang, but it is quite developed and crowded; but hike 15 minutes further West over the rocks, or 5 minutes along the road by trike. First pics are White beach from the restaurant on the hill on the way to Aninuan, then Aninuan itself. GREAT restaurants, best outside Makati, around PG. [/QUOTE]Great report Surfer, I really enjoyed reading it and agree with your point of view.

I spent a week in Sabang, Palawan on my first trip to PI this last February. I really liked the island and the beach in particular. Flying over Palawan from Manila you can see how green and verdant the island is. There are not a lot of people here. Once you get out of Puerto Princessa, which compared to Manila or AC is a beautiful city (LOL) , the beautiful tropical landscape starts to take over. Sabang Beach was real nice. There were two 'quality hotels' and a couple of backpacker cottages and not much else on the main beach. The village shut down after 8pm. There was nothing, not even a hut on the beautiful pristine second beach which is on the way to the Monkey Trail and the Subterranean river. The virgin tropical rain forest comes right down to the beach. I would spend hours on this beach and see no one. I want to take a girl here on my next trip and get laid on this beach.

I met an ex-pat and his pretty Filipina GF one night at my hotel bar. We got to talking. He has a house, a couple acres and a 32ft sail boat near Port Barton. He told me and I have no reason to doubt him,"that it gets better and better the farther north you go." Sabang, Palawan was one of the highlights of my last trip along with a session I had with a smoking hot Chinese girl in a Macau Sauna and a Japanese 141 hotel reservation girl I had in Hong Kong. I also enjoyed the AC bar girls and the action in Havana Café and Burgos Street. But Palawan is the main reason why I want to go back to PI. I can get laid in BKK, Pattaya, or Phnom just as easily as I can in AC or Manila and I don't think the Filipinas are any prettier or better in bed than their Thai or Khmer cousins. But most of the beaches I have been to in Thailand, and there are a lot of really pretty ones, are overdeveloped IMHO.

I first visited Phuket in 1980. We scuba dived off Phi Phi, which was uninhabited back then! I won't even talk about what it is like now. In 2002 I tried Ko Samui. It was too late! And in 2010 I tried Ko Chang and Ko Lanta. Both islands are quite beautiful but the beaches there are the perfect example of what I am talking about (overbuilding) and are no longer appealing. Ko Chang and Ko Lanta must have been fantastic 15-20 years ago. Today, my opinion again, it kind of sucks; too many hotels and too many tourists.

The same phenomenon is happening in the Philippines no doubt, but at a much slower pace. Boracay is the Phuket of the Philippines. No way do I want to go there. I know some guys may disagree with me. That's fine. This is my point of view: I like getting away from it all and I love beautiful semi unspoiled beaches. Loose women and virgin beaches, that's it for me. After reading your report and doing a little research on my own, I now am planning to visit Sipalay (Sugar Beach) , Negros in addition to Port Barton, Palawan. My tentative plans are Hong Kong – Macau – AC – Manila – Palawan – Cebu – Negros – MNL – Hong Kong. (HKG is my port of entry into SE Asia.) I like this itinerary because it intersperses mongering with beachcombing and I get the best of both worlds.

Again, thanks for the post. I appreciate it.

I spent three nights staying at a resort on big La Laguna beach a couple of weeks ago, heading into Sabang for the nightlife on two occasions. I checked out all of the five or so clubs and barfined from a different one on each of the two nights I went.

However. My god what hard work! The girls there obviously have it a bit too easy. A severe lack of eye contact and a shocking lack of flirting once they have been bought a drink. It seems they are happy to receive the drink and then just sit there expecting to be barfined. Ditto very poor performance in bed, with a common tactic of refusing to wake up in the morning (got things started eventually but it took perseverance).

It is also true that the Koreans take out the best looking ones at 7pm, however considering the generally poor performance I doubt I missed anything.

Expats living there also confirmed that the lack of enthusiasm / poor performance is a common problem, and recommended heading to Angeles or somewhere else to find a friend first and then bringing her to PG.

NB: Your welcome. Guys like you are why I still bother to post here once in awhile, despite all the morons who cause me to stop reading this board for extended periods.

Sabang in Palawan bears no resemblance to the one on Mindoro.

I liked Sipalay, but it would not be my first choice for a few reasons. For you I suggest the Camotes; easier to get to from Cebu City than Sipalay too. Most mongers won't go that far from hookers but it really is amazingly undeveloped and pristine and loaded with beaches better than any on Negros.

I writing to you, because of the report 1312 (Other Aereas, Philippines ).

Can you give me her E-Mail adresse or phone number?

I will go in November for 5 weeks to palawan. Most of my time, I will spend in port barton area. E-mail me to [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]

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I just left the Philippines having stayed for 6 days in Sabang, Mindoro Island for a short vacation whilst working in SE Asia for the last few weeks. I am a newbie to the Philippines but have experiences from many other parts of the world as my job involves regular travel. I chose to go to Sabang because it is not far from Manila so relatively easily accessible and also for scuba diving, my primary reason for vacation. I have not been anywhere else in PI, not even Manila though I have had pleasant experiences with Filipinas in Singapore in the past.

What is Sabang like? First of all it is a tiny place but with enough crammed in to keep me entertained for 6 days. Second there are quite a few European / American / Australian older males who stay here on a very low budget for months or more who really don't add much value to the place and to be honest are pretty washed up spending the majority of their time drinking cheap alcohol and slowly killing themselves but if that is your scene then fine. There are also a lot of Koreans here and Koreans own a number of the establishments. Talking to the girls, they are not very keen on the Koreans who tend to treat the girls openly as if they were in a meat market. There is just one tiny main strip that you can walk in around 5 minutes which hosts the bars and I think 5 girly bars plus 3 legit massage places.

I stayed at a place called Big Apple which is geared for divers with a very competent dive operation on site plus a 24 hour bar and sports bar staffed with cute waitresses (that are NOT available). I booked a superior room (quiet at the back) .2000 pesos per night, good value.

My days revolved around diving from 9am. The diving is the easiest anywhere with numerous good dive sites right off the beach. I would be all done by around 1. 30, have some lunch and then an hour massage at one of the legit places followed by an afternoon rest. Have a couple of early evening beers with the divers (I am not a big drinker) then some dinner. Then off to the main strip!

There are 5 girly bars otherwise known as discos called Pink Panther, Venus, Hammerhead, Sabang Village disco, Las Vegas and can't remember the other. I barfined a girl every night cost 1000 to the bar and 1000 for the girl (plus tip if she was good). The quality varies from bar to bar but generally there is something for everyone's taste. My preference is slim with a nice smile and although I sometimes get carried away and forget, with the brain in my dick taking over, I try to make sure the girl's attitude is right.

First night I took a girl from Venus mainly because I accidently walked into her entering the place and we hit it off there and then. She was tall for a Filipina, dark skinned, great smile and around 24. What a great pick, I was horny but she was hornier and we banged for hours. She was experienced for sure but such a great attitude and had me do what she wanted to make her cum, and I was happy to oblige! I took her again on the 3rd night and it was as if we were long separated lovers. Highlight of the night was banging her in the ass while we both rubbed her clit to her climax. I saw her a couple of nights later being taken away by some fat old guy and she flashed me a knowing smile, I had to laugh!

Second night I took a petite slim 18 year old from Las Vegas, nice enough but tame compared to night 1. She was very tight however but I made her bleed and she had to go off to get some medication for it (I think a common problem she has). But she did come back to my room at 7am to fuck me again, good girl!

Fourth night I wasn't planning to take a girl as I got involved in a local drinking event where some of the guys working there do the rounds in various bars (as I am no drinker I thought I wouldn't be able to perform after a session but I went easy on the beers) and we ended up in Las Vegas. I saw this absolute stunner, bit young really but 18, very slim and so pretty with a lovely smile. I started talking to her but she couldn't speak English, only Tagalog. Anyway translating through a friend, I found out she had just arrived the day before and had never been barfined before. Well she was just about to be! Took her back, she was very shy and nervous but after relaxing her I banged her 3 times. I can't say she was an active participant but I thoroughly enjoyed it even so.

Fifth night was a bit disappointing. Took a girl from Sabang Village Disco (Korean owned). She was only about 5ft and slim but didn't smile (I veered from my normal rules). Talking to her she was definitely a smart girl with long term plans but no apparent enthusiasm to fuck me. We did one round which was pretty good, she was athletic for sure but it all felt too mechanical. As I went to wash she was dressed ready to go. I had paid for all night but no point in forcing her to stay against her will, I put it down to experience and slept.

The following day I actually chatted to one of the bar girls wandering around during the day and got short time with her for 650, very nice 19 years old no English though, straight from the provinces!

The last night I went to Hammerhead and sat down to purvey the scene. Started talking to a girl who sat down beside me. 21, not a stunner but slim and a fucking amazing smile. When she started rubbing my crotch my mind was made up. Back in the room we talked and then got down to it, my God she was wet and horny. She said she had come down from Manila for just a weeks holiday (strange holiday) and I did believe her, and she wants my babies (seriously) insisting I shoot inside her, so I did, quite a few times we are now friends on fb.

I read that some people have had poor experiences with some of the bar girls. Well my advice is to put in some effort of your own if you want to have a good time by making them feel good and screening out the ones who are clearly less than interested in you until you can gauge there is a certain chemistry. If you are fat, middle aged and dressed in vest and shorts then no girl is going to have her juices flowing over you. I am not fat but I am in my 40s and don't mind putting in a bit of effort and charming the girls which on most occasions pays dividends.

In summary, I would have been bored shitless in Sabang if I had not been diving and would not recommend as a place for an active holiday (fucking aside). It's a small place and I was ready to leave after 6 days but those 6 days were fucking great fun.

Could any one please let me know of the safey issues in these places as of late? There seem to be plenty of willing dia girls at all three.

Thanks.

Reports here or even PM would be perfect.

Poolmover

[QUOTE=Bloke;1160088]The last night I went to Hammerhead and sat down to purvey the scene. Started talking to a girl who sat down beside me. 21, not a stunner but slim and a fucking amazing smile. When she started rubbing my crotch my mind was made up. Back in the room we talked and then got down to it, my God she was wet and horny. She said she had come down from Manila for just a weeks holiday (strange holiday) and I did believe her, and she wants my babies (seriously) insisting I shoot inside her, so I did, quite a few times we are now friends on fb.[/QUOTE]Amazing story! Many men would have wilted like a daisy at her request but you shot not one but several loads in her. So did your shots fly true? Can we expect a post that Baby Bloke is on the way? ;)

I'm fairly sure this topic has been covered extensively elsewhere in this forum. However the short answer is that Davao and CDO are very safe and secure. You can walk almost anywhere in either city without fear of being hassled. Both are very relaxed cities and both offer a host of decent amenities for the traveler. Iligan is a bit more, well actually a lot more primitive. First, it's a hole and if there are decent places to stay or restaurants to visit I've not heard of them. Second, while it's not usually dangerous, it's not a place where I feel comfortable walking around though you're probably safe enough in a private vehicle. I go there frequently, but, with the exception of one unavoidable overnight, I've always returned to CDO to sleep. It's only a two hour drive. If you want to meet someone from Iligan, my advice would be to tell her to take the bus (probably less than Php100) and come meet you in CDO. I was in Iligan again last week and again was struck by how ugly the place is.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1160274]I'm fairly sure this topic has been covered extensively elsewhere in this forum. However the short answer is that Davao and CDO are very safe and secure. You can walk almost anywhere in either city without fear of being hassled. Both are very relaxed cities and both offer a host of decent amenities for the traveler. Iligan is a bit more, well actually a lot more primitive. First, it's a hole and if there are decent places to stay or restaurants to visit I've not heard of them. Second, while it's not usually dangerous, it's not a place where I feel comfortable walking around though you're probably safe enough in a private vehicle. I go there frequently, but, with the exception of one unavoidable overnight, I've always returned to CDO to sleep. It's only a two hour drive. If you want to meet someone from Iligan, my advice would be to tell her to take the bus (probably less than Php100) and come meet you in CDO. I was in Iligan again last week and again was struck by how ugly the place is.

GE[/QUOTE]Great summary GE. Very accurate portrayal of the situation.

In fact, I would go further and suggest that for all you would-be DIA warriors, make either CDO or Davao your base for any girls based in Mindanao and request that all girls that you wish to meet come to see you there. Bus trips of 3 or 4 hours or more are the norm for them so if they really want to meet you then they will not baulk at the trip, but you might need to reassure them that you will give them the fare (and, as GE says, it won't be much).

The major problem with meeting women in their own home town is the fact that these places are small and the gossip mill is huge so they will be worried someone might see them with you and so will not be as relaxed with you as they might be away from home.

It might also be a way of sieving them out too. If you suggest that they come to meet you then that will imply an overnight stop with you so you can innocently ask if they are prepared to stay with you, alone, in your room, all night.
Yes means 'get on the bus"; No means "don't bother coming".

Yes I agree reports are probably somewhere.

Perfect responses. Cdo and davao it will be then. Lots of young cute things in both areas. Many reluctantly willing dia husband-wanters, which implies the built in pleasures we all like.

Ill be there in two weeks for 2 weeks. Should be nice. Any further comments appreciated. Contacts, girl friendly places to stay, etc. But I'm fairly crafty so if not its ok too.

Great.

Poolmover.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1160284]Great summary GE. Very accurate portrayal of the situation.

In fact, I would go further and suggest that for all you would-be DIA warriors, make either CDO or Davao your base for any girls based in Mindanao and request that all girls that you wish to meet come to see you there. Bus trips of 3 or 4 hours or more are the norm for them so if they really want to meet you then they will not baulk at the trip, but you might need to reassure them that you will give them the fare (and, as GE says, it won't be much).

The major problem with meeting women in their own home town is the fact that these places are small and the gossip mill is huge so they will be worried someone might see them with you and so will not be as relaxed with you as they might be away from home.

It might also be a way of sieving them out too. If you suggest that they come to meet you then that will imply an overnight stop with you so you can innocently ask if they are prepared to stay with you, alone, in your room, all night.

Yes means 'get on the bus"; No means "don't bother coming". [/QUOTE]

I am not finding much searching the forums. Not having much luck searching Google also. Is there any action in Baguio? It is a good size city I would think there must be something happening there.

The only action there is the ktvs and Filipino bars. I was there 8 months ago and the only bar (strip bar, Filipino) that I found was on 23 Naguilan Road. Near it, there is a Korean restaurant and a KTV. I barfined a cute 19yr old with D cups but she could not speak any english. She spoke Korean though. I think I paid 2. 5K long time. The strip club had few girls but I didn't bother. Me and my friend were the only gringos there. Overall city is not really worth visiting for hobby purposes and I suggest byo from AC.

I agree with McD no significant p4p scene. BYOB from Ac or Manila or try your luck on DIA etc.

[QUOTE=Bloke; 1160088]I just left the Philippines having stayed for 6 days in Sabang, Mindoro Island for a short vacation whilst working in SE Asia for the last few weeks. I am a newbie to the Philippines but have experiences from many other parts of the world as my job involves regular travel. I chose to go to Sabang because it is not far from Manila so relatively easily accessible and also for scuba diving, my primary reason for vacation. I have not been anywhere else in PI, not even Manila though I have had pleasant experiences with Filipinas in Singapore in the past.

What is Sabang like? First of all it is a tiny place but with enough crammed in to keep me entertained for 6 days. Second there are quite a few European / American / Australian older males who stay here on a very low budget for months or more who really don't add much value to the place and to be honest are pretty washed up spending the majority of their time drinking cheap alcohol and slowly killing themselves but if that is your scene then fine. There are also a lot of Koreans here and Koreans own a number of the establishments. Talking to the girls, they are not very keen on the Koreans who tend to treat the girls openly as if they were in a meat market. There is just one tiny main strip that you can walk in around 5 minutes which hosts the bars and I think 5 girly bars plus 3 legit massage places.

I stayed at a place called Big Apple which is geared for divers with a very competent dive operation on site plus a 24 hour bar and sports bar staffed with cute waitresses (that are NOT available). I booked a superior room (quiet at the back).2000 pesos per night, good value.

My days revolved around diving from 9am. The diving is the easiest anywhere with numerous good dive sites right off the beach. I would be all done by around 1. 30, have some lunch and then an hour massage at one of the legit places followed by an afternoon rest. Have a couple of early evening beers with the divers (I am not a big drinker) then some dinner. Then off to the main strip!

There are 5 girly bars otherwise known as discos called Pink Panther, Venus, Hammerhead, Sabang Village disco, Las Vegas and can't remember the other. I barfined a girl every night cost 1000 to the bar and 1000 for the girl (plus tip if she was good). The quality varies from bar to bar but generally there is something for everyone's taste. My preference is slim with a nice smile and although I sometimes get carried away and forget, with the brain in my dick taking over, I try to make sure the girl's attitude is right.

First night I took a girl from Venus mainly because I accidently walked into her entering the place and we hit it off there and then. She was tall for a Filipina, dark skinned, great smile and around 24. What a great pick, I was horny but she was hornier and we banged for hours. She was experienced for sure but such a great attitude and had me do what she wanted to make her cum, and I was happy to oblige! I took her again on the 3rd night and it was as if we were long separated lovers. Highlight of the night was banging her in the ass while we both rubbed her clit to her climax. I saw her a couple of nights later being taken away by some fat old guy and she flashed me a knowing smile, I had to laugh!

Second night I took a petite slim 18 year old from Las Vegas, nice enough but tame compared to night 1. She was very tight however but I made her bleed and she had to go off to get some medication for it (I think a common problem she has). But she did come back to my room at 7am to fuck me again, good girl!

Fourth night I wasn't planning to take a girl as I got involved in a local drinking event where some of the guys working there do the rounds in various bars (as I am no drinker I thought I wouldn't be able to perform after a session but I went easy on the beers) and we ended up in Las Vegas. I saw this absolute stunner, bit young really but 18, very slim and so pretty with a lovely smile. I started talking to her but she couldn't speak English, only Tagalog. Anyway translating through a friend, I found out she had just arrived the day before and had never been barfined before. Well she was just about to be! Took her back, she was very shy and nervous but after relaxing her I banged her 3 times. I can't say she was an active participant but I thoroughly enjoyed it even so.

Fifth night was a bit disappointing. Took a girl from Sabang Village Disco (Korean owned). She was only about 5ft and slim but didn't smile (I veered from my normal rules). Talking to her she was definitely a smart girl with long term plans but no apparent enthusiasm to fuck me. We did one round which was pretty good, she was athletic for sure but it all felt too mechanical. As I went to wash she was dressed ready to go. I had paid for all night but no point in forcing her to stay against her will, I put it down to experience and slept.

The following day I actually chatted to one of the bar girls wandering around during the day and got short time with her for 650, very nice 19 years old no English though, straight from the provinces!

The last night I went to Hammerhead and sat down to purvey the scene. Started talking to a girl who sat down beside me. 21, not a stunner but slim and a fucking amazing smile. When she started rubbing my crotch my mind was made up. Back in the room we talked and then got down to it, my God she was wet and horny. She said she had come down from Manila for just a weeks holiday (strange holiday) and I did believe her, and she wants my babies (seriously) insisting I shoot inside her, so I did, quite a few times we are now friends on fb.

I read that some people have had poor experiences with some of the bar girls. Well my advice is to put in some effort of your own if you want to have a good time by making them feel good and screening out the ones who are clearly less than interested in you until you can gauge there is a certain chemistry. If you are fat, middle aged and dressed in vest and shorts then no girl is going to have her juices flowing over you. I am not fat but I am in my 40s and don't mind putting in a bit of effort and charming the girls which on most occasions pays dividends.

In summary, I would have been bored shitless in Sabang if I had not been diving and would not recommend as a place for an active holiday (fucking aside). It's a small place and I was ready to leave after 6 days but those 6 days were fucking great fun. [/QUOTE]Good report. I live in Manila I am a regular to Sabang as I enjoy the diving and bars as well. As divers we are not allowed to fly for 18 hours after the last dive, so Sabang has the advantage of an overland trip back to Manila and not a flight. The disadvantage is that from May-Nov, the ferry is sometimes cancelled. The only other place I have found in Phil with diving and bars is Subic but the diving is not as good and neither are the bars.

I don't know if you noticed in Sabang but many of the Koreans bar fine many cute girls as soon as the bar opens, like 7pm. I prefer drinking and partying and taking a girl around 10 but there are fewer to choose from. When I am in the mood, I go to the bar early like 7pm, pick a girl or 2, then go bar hopping with them and then to the room. Often they enjoy bar hopping and I enjoy their company.

Sabang, Mindoro.

Hi all:

I've been living in Sabang for near two years. Sabang is ok for a tourist visit, but loses its appeal as an expat home over time.

I am in the process of relocating and am enjoying the posts in the forum to learn about other destinations that may suit my requirements. I am neither rich nor poor, in the middle in terms of monthly living budget. So I am reading posts for Davao, CDO, Leyte and Dumaguete, for example.

Here is a brief report about Sabang, Mindoro.

How to get there:

Bus from Manila to Bantangas Pier.

When you arrive at Bantangas Pier, ignore any offers of help from vendors. Make your way to the ferry terminal and ticket booths. Boat ticket booths are on left in the compound in front of the terminal proper. Each company is ok for the passage. Just review the departure times and get a ticket from the booth that best fits your timing.

Also if you want to game the system for another 30P, when buying the boat ticket, have 200P in your hand to pay for the ticket. Ask for resident passage / ticket. Or simply hand the 200P to the booth staff and say 'resident ticket' please.

If you are cheap Charlie, like me, then you can avoid paying the 50P environment fee, if asked for it, by saying you are a resident returning from abroad. You own / rent a house in Puerto Galera.

All passenger must pay the Terminal Fee. 30P, at a different booth.

Accommodation:

No need to book for accommodation in advance. When you alight from boat at Sabang, it is likely you will be approached by several middle aged ladies offering to help guide you to accommodation. They are useful. Tell them your budget for nightly stay.

Low season rooms can be had for 400-600P. Fan room is enough. Cold water shower is ok for me. Here are few suggestions:

Ronaldo's (Eastern end of Sabang beach. Walk left along beach after alighting boat). Behind Tina's restaurant.

Sonny's Inn (in same direction)

Sabang Inn Resort. I stayed there before. I little more upmarket. Daniel is the owner. Rooms can be nego for 600-800 per night. And if staying for a week, then can nego a better deal. This also applies to most places, if staying longer.

My advice if planning to stay a week or so, take a moderate room first night. Then use the second day to do your research on other rooms.

Bars for freelancers:

Big Apple Bar.

On the Sabang beach. Pool tables etc. The freelances are avid billiard players. So if you see 'sexy' girls playing billiard, and they do not have boyfriend watching them, then that is a good sign. It can make for fun waste of time to shoot a few rounds of billiard with them. Buy a few drinks, then see what develops in terms of a proposal. I am not a drinker, but from what I have observed, the sexier girls generally hang in Big Apple after 9pm.

Venue Disco, above Venus Club:

I do not hand at that Disco. However, every night there is a live band, good quality themed music. Check it out after 10pm to see if there are any small groups of girls. Buying them drinks will lubricate the situation in your favor. Some say that the bar / club girls sometimes go there after closing time. 1am, looking for opportunity.

Until 4 months ago, it was common to find freelance girls hanging around in Eddies Café and outside near Eddies and on the pathway to Tina's restaurant from about 9pm onwards. That is now not the case. The local Major stopped this practice. Why? Because he is a local bar owner and wants the foreigners to get their jollies from his girls and not the freelance girls. Welcome to the Philippines. Hehehe.

Girly Bars:

1. Pink Pantha: Small. Many girls if go early. 8-9pm. Friendly happy girls.

2. Broadway, nearly renovated. Popular and busy. Full of girls now because its sister bar, HammerHead Bar, is under renovation. So Hammerhead girls are now working in Broadway. Friendly happy girls.

3. Sabang Disco: Popular with the Koreans, Korean owner. But the girls also like all patrons and offer smiles and attention.

4. Venus Disco. This bar you must to early. 8pm, to see the best girls. Why? The Koreans go there at 7. 30 to collect their nightly playmates.

5. Village Disco: Again, popular with the Koreans. But all is good here also.

6. Vegas: on the way to Eddies. I like this bar because of lounge type seating options. Best time is early, before 9pm to see the full selection of girls.

The barfine here is 2K. LD is not mandatory, but the girls will ask for LD. I have never barfined a girl here, but from conversations with others, here are some tips:

- LDs are optional at 250P. Alternative: offer a standard drink, coke or sprite. 50P.

- If you want to BF the girl, give her the interview about your requirements to see if she will agree / accept your terms of engagement. If you want a guarantee, then talk to her mama and ask her to explain the terms to the girl. For example, if you want 2 or more or whatever rounds; how long you want her to stay (technically the BF is until morning).

- Tipping? Most girls will ask for a tip. At you discretion, perhaps 100 or 200 is welcomed.

- Given that Sabang is a small community, then you will get little trouble here from the girls. If, for example, the girl and mama have agreed to your terms and then the girl wants to make changes, namely go home early or not complete the set number of rounds, you have the options to return her to the bar and ask for a replacement. Why is this possible, because when taking the girl, you only need to give 1K to the bar. Then in the morning, give the girl 1K. So you retain some power. Explaining this to the girl if she becomes non compliant will usually change her intentions.

- The girls in Sabang are safe. What I mean, it is unlikely they pose a threat to the stuff in your room. However, exercise caution at all times in the PH. Secure your valuables so the girl is not tempted during the night.

- If you like the girl, ask for her cell number. If they like you, they are open minded to a return visit in during your stay here, in the mornings or afternoons. A simple txt message will have them visit you for ST. They will ask 1K or 700. Some will accept an offer of 500, but this is becoming rarer.

- Having the cell number is also useful for asking her to introduce you to any of her bargirl friends. Just tell her your requirements. Give her a tip. 100P, for her help. &61514;

My strategy tips as an expat:

I am a non repulsive; time generous; caring; intelligent; careful man with some experience in Indo and PH. I have developed my own set of 'rules' and 'boundaries' regarding the girls. The girls may form an opinion that I am not the most cash generous / stupid man, but I believe that I to not generate disrespect from the girls. In other words, I am learning to be deliberate when using the words: 'yes' and 'no'. Sometimes I will say 'yes' to their requests. While other times, I will say 'no', whether these requests are for: money; food; tips; or help of any kind. The girls will accept either of the 'yes' or 'no' response.

Do not be afraid to say 'no' sometimes. I have tested this with the 'no' word to all kinds of requests. And the girls accept and will still visit and share their time with me. Try to find the balance between the yes and no. And be consistent. The girls will at least respect you. And for me in the end, respect is more important than love or other such stupid notion.

BTW, and only ever say 'yes' on your terms, when it is right for you and only you to say the 'yes' word. For example, the girl asks to take one of my ripe mangos with her when she is leaving. I will sometimes just say 'no'. Then the next time she visits, I will cook her a meal after the BOMBOM. Or invite her for a swim in the pool on a super hot afternoon, just for fun and not BOMBOM, or pass her some load to her phone or give her some pocket money when I see her on the street.

The point is: I want to set a precedent at the outset with new girls. And the precedent is: I am the boss and I am in control; . We can never manage or control the girl's agenda, all we can do is manage our own response to events.

My Bar strategy in Sabang. May or may not work in other locations. Hehehe.

- I never buy LDs. If the girl approaches me, and I do not want her to stay, I explain that I am bar hopping only tonight and do not want BF. If I like her and want her attention, I ask her to sit with me and I will whisper in her her, if she gives me her time and attention, I will give her a cash 50P tip. Be discrete with passing the 50P before you leave to avoid any probs with other girls or her mama.

- If I do not want that particular girl's attention, I may ask her to introduce me to another girl I might spot in the bar. For example, 'who is that girl? '. Call her here, or can you bring her to me. Then when chatting to new girl, offer the same tip for her time.

- If you like girl number 1 or 2, and not want to pay the BF, tell her you like her, but tonight you have no 'power' or 'tired'. Ask her if she would like to meet / visit your room tomorrow morning / afternoon. If she agrees, give her your number, on pre-written card or slip of paper, discreetly so no one sees.

- I use the above strategy when I want to refresh my contact list. Most of my contacts, when they are ready, will visit me during the day. They expect 1K in the beginning. I will offer 500. 70% will accept. And most will evolve into repeaters when they do not have a better afternoon offer or when they need money for 'emergencies'.

- Other opportunities: given my longterm status, I have time to approach girls while walking around. Use a smile and some small talk and give your cell number on a card. Then just wait for the booty call.

Season.

The situation in Sabang, and perhaps this applies to other areas, depends on the season. Less tourists during the wet season means less BFs for the girls, so they get hungry and we as the expats get more attractive as prospects. So the girls are happy with the 500P at lunch time. However, during the high season, that 500P is less motivating for them to visit.

Koreans.

Sabang is increasing popular destination for the Korean's. They are buying and developing resorts and businesses here. They like the young girls and take them early from the bar. They are responsible for the changes here in terms of the girls now start to think BF = ST. Why? Because when the girl asks to be released after 1 round after the Korean has BF the girl for 2K, he politely agrees. So the girls quicky learn that a 2K BF=1 round ST. And then impose this new model on the old school types like me who expect multiple rounds and a sleep over till 10am. I have never BF a girl, so that does not apply to me. Heheh. The afternoon ST is the way to go for me.

Girlfriends:

I have been blessed with having 2 steady PH girlfriends in my 2+ years in PH. My experience in Asia only included Indonesia and PH. And I have to say, I a good Indo or PH girl make for a sweet girlfriend. They can embody all the best one can imagine in a woman. Caring, loving, devoted.

I read once from an Academic journal. In the West, the woman has achieved her emancipation by adopting a 'male model'. In other words, achieve their upward mobility by following the way men to things in life. How men achieve power and success according to the male definition. In PH, for example, woman are working on their emancipation by adopting a 'female model'. In other words, women embrace what it means to be a woman. In PH, woman build their power base within the family. Blah Blah.

The point is: at least with my Indo and PH girlfriends, they want to feel like a woman. They want to be with a leader / strong man. A fare man. A disciplined man. A man who is in control of himself and his environment. A man who sets rules and boundaries. A man who consistent with his rules and boundaries. A kind, caring and generous man, within his means and boundaries. Within this context, the woman can feel safe; secure and trusting.

Develop the above and sprinkle it with some: humor; spontaneity; fun; adventure; playfulness, then you will stimulate the best qualities to emerge in the indo and PH ladies. That has been my experience.

Currently I have a PH GF. But based on that experience, It is unlikely I will take another GF here in the PH. Why? I will move from Sabang soon. And it will break her heart when I leave. I will not take her with me to the South of PH because I want to sample other delights. Although the 1. 5 years with her has been a daily delight and my respect for her grows each day, the burden of breaking hearts is too much for me.

I am by no means, young or handsome, but the GFs I've had in PH have shown me genuine caring and affection and I've seen too many tears when it is time for me to move on to other pastures. So, although I do enjoy having a GF, I will make that sacrifice and avoid that in the future and option for the library model.

More on this topic in future posts. Time for a swim.

Enjoy your Sunday.

PS. Major fire here in Sabang 2 nights ago. One of the 'stop house' (accom for bar girls) burnt down. Rumor has it. 2 girls plus 1 baby died. Tragic given the context of the flesh business, eg: young single mother working in bar to feed new born baby etc etc. Easy to forget the details of a bar girl's life and prospects in a country like PH when enjoying their promo dancing in the disco / bar etc etc.

PSS. I agree, some of the expats in Sabang are an embarrassment, visually. But having said that, about a year ago, I met the most ugly disgusting repulsive man on God's planet in Sabang. It was 9pm as I was walking home. Bid him 'Hi'. Started some small talk. Aussie man. After listening to his story for 15 mins, my initial profiling of him changed 180 degrees.

For example, he is married to PH lady. 3 kids, all live in Aust. He supports her family. Bought them houses and land in PH based on their needs and within the context of the PH economy. In other word, not lavish but modest houses in the provinces etc. He is well spoken, kind and caring to his family. Responsible. Visits PH for his extra curricular activities, then back to Aust and his family responsibilities.

Take away message, I am reminded that we can not judge a book by its cover.

[QUOTE=Redim; 1165233]Sabang, Mindoro.

Here is a brief report about Sabang, Mindoro. [/QUOTE]What a great report Redim. Not a brief one but a very comprehensive one. Well done. For me a 'Report of Distinction' and I will try and post it as such, if I can crack the code to posting RoDs.

I see you have been a member for almost two years with only two postings. And that is fine; I appreciate good quality thoughtful postings such as yours. You have provided an interesting and useful perspective for someone who, I guess, is more or less is a retired Philippines resident. The modus operandi of a short in and out (pun intended) monger to the Philippines is different from someone like yourself who lives in the community.

You have provided a great insight into Sabang, its haunts and, for a resident, how to handle and manage Filipina relationships.

I see you are moving away from the tearful partings with gfs in favour of opting for a 'library model'. I guess that means taking your pick from what's available, borrowing, absorbing the contents, and returning without the need to buy and keep on the shelf. I wonder if anyone else who successfully utilises this library model without a regular gf. [Perhaps post any response in the Filipinas –Opinions and Advice forum]

KongKing

KingKong: Thanks for approving the post and reviewing.

I will attempt to post occasionally about Sabang and other destinations I visit.

Redim

BTW, if you plan to visit Sabang, send a PM or post in this thread.

Despite my plans to relocate, I may still be here for a month or two.

Redim

[QUOTE=KongKing; 1165303]What a great report Redim. Not a brief one but a very comprehensive one. Well done. For me a 'Report of Distinction' and I will try and post it as such, if I can crack the code to posting RoDs.

I see you have been a member for almost two years with only two postings. And that is fine; I appreciate good quality thoughtful postings such as yours. You have provided an interesting and useful perspective for someone who, I guess, is more or less is a retired Philippines resident. The modus operandi of a short in and out (pun intended) monger to the Philippines is different from someone like yourself who lives in the community.

You have provided a great insight into Sabang, its haunts and, for a resident, how to handle and manage Filipina relationships.

I see you are moving away from the tearful partings with gfs in favour of opting for a 'library model'. I guess that means taking your pick from what's available, borrowing, absorbing the contents, and returning without the need to buy and keep on the shelf. I wonder if anyone else who successfully utilises this library model without a regular gf. [Perhaps post any response in the Filipinas –Opinions and Advice forum]

KongKing[/QUOTE]KongKing,

I'm a convert to the library model. In my first stays I was strictly pay-for-play, because I was unaware of the opportunities available to me. Still in the US mindset, I thought I was too old (in my forties!) , not good looking enough, not rich enough, etc.

A friend, to whom I am eternally grateful, tipped me to the opportunity to score a Filipina girlfriend. I like the GF experience, and patted myself on the back for not being a "playboy" or a "user."

On my last trip, though, I began to see the flaws of the GF model. From the time my GF met me at the airport, I never had a free moment. All of a sudden I was on the hook for every disaster (mom in hospital, dad laid off, need cash to pay electric bill, etc.) that occurred, and some that didn't occur.

I was also slow to see what economists call an "opportunity cost." In other words, if I make one choice, it closes off other options, and I pay a price. In the US, if I settle down with my gorgeous 18 year old GF, there is no opportunity cost. The odds that I can do as well, or better, are about zilch. In the US, the smart thing to do is to latch onto an attractive young woman, but in the PI, this is NOT the smart strategy.

By going with a GF in the Philippines, unless you get some sort of an open arrangement, you are sacrificing other very abundant opportunities. Looked at logically, this makes no sense. Ultimately, you will pay far more for any GF than you would for a free lancer, casual date, friends-with-benefits arrangement, or just outright barfine, and you will sacrifice your freedom.

I think the obstacle for many men, as it was for me, is a lack of awareness of the opportunities, and a lack of self-confidence. Coming from the US, I still find myself thinking when approaching a young Filipina half my age,"Who am I kidding? This isn't going to work."

Another obstacle is the idea that having sex with more than one woman, sex without commitment, sex outside of marriage, sex for money, etc, are somehow wrong. It's even harder for someone like me who grew up in a deeply religious home. Men who have sex without strings attached are castigated as "users," "playboys," "selfish," "immature," "lustful," etc. All of this shaming is designed to get men to resign themselves to surrendering all of their income to one lackluster woman.

I've finally accepted that it is in the nature of male sexuality to seek variety. Due to the poor US economy, I can't go this year, but on my next trip I am committed to the Library Model.

[QUOTE=Redim; 1165422]BTW, if you plan to visit Sabang, send a PM or post in this thread.

Despite my plans to relocate, I may still be here for a month or two. Redim[/QUOTE]I tried to PM you Redim but I can't. To do that you need to be a subscribing member or a senior member. Check the forum FAO for details. I would like to contact you about some of your possible new residential destinations.

[QUOTE=KongKing;1165502]I tried to PM you Redim but I can't. To do that you need to be a subscribing member or a senior member. Check the forum FAO for details. I would like to contact you about some of your possible new residential destinations.[/QUOTE]Sergeant:

Good post.

Your experiences with PH GF#1 is a typical story. And sounds like not a lot of damage was done. But many lessons learned.

When I first stepped into the Asian context (Indo for a year and now PH for two years) , I was confronted, confused and angry at the modus operandi of many of the Indo / PH ladies in terms of their tactics to milk and manipulate their foreigner BFs. I could write a book about the stories I've heard about the creative methods used by the girls to achieve their material gain.

These stories shocked me. However I always and still do listen to any of the stories as a learning process. In the beginning, I was angry and judgmental towards to perpetrators (the girls and their associates). But over time I learned more about the context in which the girls live. In our countries there is a social security system. We come from a 'welfare' state system. There are safety nets for those less fortunate. Here in the Asian context, there is no welfare system. The only safety net is the family.

So, my position now is this: I do not judge or condemn the girls or their actions to better their lives, feed themselves, their child or family. Switch positions with the girl and I would do the same if I was fortunate to get the attention of a 'green', gullible, naive man. We all look for opportunities in life for our own gain. These girls are not doing anything different with their available tools and chances as we do ourselves in our worlds.

And further: so now when I hear stories of some guy getting fleeced by a cutie, I acknowledge the girl's strategy. And am more judgmental of the man for allowing himself to be manipulated.

We must remember, women are women and share common traits all over the world. Women will push their agenda in relation to men. Men must remember that have the power to either 'allow' things to happen to them or 'now allow' those events. When I hear stories now, I know that the man allowed the events to happen to him. He allowed her to extract funds from him for repairs to his GFs family home. He allowed her to manipulate him for her own gain. He gave permission to himself to be weak. He gave away his power to his GF.

The message here: As my older Italian friend once said (20 years experience in PH) , there is a place for all men in PH. I once saw a man playing in the water with 2 young ladies at the beach in Sabang. I watched as they finished and returned to shore. At the shore line, I could see he had NO legs, not handsome, overweight. But nevertheless, the 2 lovelies were smiling, attentive and carried him back into the shade of the coconut tree to relax.

So, never think that your current GF is the only woman who will ever show you some attention or affection. And therefore you must allow her to manipulate you for fear she may leave you and crush your delicate ego.

My moto is this: "I am the prize". And there are countless opportunities around the next corner. So no need to be fearful of losing a that GF. Either she is an asset or a liability. Be clear and make your decision.

More thoughts about GFs.

I have been blessed here in PH. I've accepted 2 GFs. And they are a couple of the best humans I've ever had the fortune of meeting and sharing some of my life. Both never ever asked me for 1 peso. For example, my current GF had no credit in her phone and rather than ask me for credit, she sent txt to her sister asking for phone credit. That is an indication of the character here although rare, is available.

Having said that, I do my best to care for my GF and all her personal needs. Her empty phone credit was my oversight for the day. Hehehe.

I've now forgotten the reason for this post or the main point. Hehehe. So it has developed into a 'train of thought' ramble.

Until next time.

Redim.

PS Kingkong:

No worries about the PM. I will simply post in the main threads about other locations.

PSS: A final tip: When using ATMs in PH. Check your bank notes to make sure they are genuine. The local ATM here in Puerto Galera (Sabang) on occasions dispenses fake bank bills. View and check the 1000P notes. I got 1 and so did my friend. When I spoke to and told the young bank manage, he leaned forward to me and said "impossible" that HIS ATM can dispense fake money. Welcome to the philipines. Heheh

[QUOTE=Mc Don;1165036]The only action there is the ktvs and Filipino bars. I was there 8 months ago and the only bar (strip bar, Filipino) that I found was on 23 Naguilan Road. Near it, there is a Korean restaurant and a KTV. I barfined a cute 19yr old with D cups but she could not speak any english. She spoke Korean though. I think I paid 2. 5K long time. The strip club had few girls but I didn't bother. Me and my friend were the only gringos there. Overall city is not really worth visiting for hobby purposes and I suggest byo from AC.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info.

Ray,

It's been years since I've been to Baguio, and there wasn't much of a P4P scene, just a few girlie bars with steep barfines. Basically, the girls did a stage show dance routine while wearing numbers, and you could call them over and make arrangements.

The local Filipinos I was with never paid the barfine. They knew a girl or two who were "party girls" and were willing to perform after hours for a fraction of the barfine. These venues often screw themselves, making the barfine so high that fewer girls are hired out, and must make other arrangements after hours.

The big problem with Baguio, though, is the rain. When it rains, it rains hard and long. I've spent all day indoors in Baguio during a torrential downpour. When I first went to Cebu and it rained I thought,"Oh crap, a whole day shot down the tubes." I was surprised when the rain broke off in 15 minutes, the sun came out, and in a half hour I couldn't tell it had rained.

I have a friend in Cebu City who moved from Luzon just because Cebu doesn't have as much rains and flooding as Luzon.

I suppose the offsetting advantage of Baguio is that it is cooler.

[QUOTE=Bloke;1160088]There are also a lot of Koreans here and Koreans own a number of the establishments. Talking to the girls, they are not very keen on the Koreans who tend to treat the girls openly as if they were in a meat market.[/QUOTE]This was a very useful post, thanks. However, one comment : Pinay girls will often say things such as the above to white guys, and yet the younger, prettier ones will always choose Koreans above us. I am guessing it is the ones NOT attractive to Koreans who said the above!

[QUOTE=Yiddo;1167849]This was a very useful post, thanks. However, one comment : Pinay girls will often say things such as the above to white guys, and yet the younger, prettier ones will always choose Koreans above us. I am guessing it is the ones NOT attractive to Koreans who said the above![/QUOTE]You might be right, but as an aside I have just been having coffee with 2 women who are caddy girls on a golf course south of Manila near Bacoor, and they told me they dislike being caddies for Korean guys.

They said they are "bastos". When I asked in what way, they told me they are always touching them, grabbing at them, yelling at them if they do not have a club ready immediately they want it, treating them like dirt and then rarely tipping them anything over the official rate.

When I suggested that only some guys were like this they refused to agree. They said all are like it. Go figure.

D Cups asked the following on the Cebu thread:

Hi RK, any experience in Zamboanga? . They seem to have a high proportion of sexy ones on DIA. Thanks.

My response:

I think we have had a few different points of view here about the safety or otherwise of western Mindanao.

My own opinion is based on my working experience. I am permitted to go to Cagayan de Oro or Davao without restriction, and I agree that there are few problems in both cities.

Outside of them, like the road between them passing through Bukidnon, Agusan del Sur etc, we are advised not to go there without some form of security. There have been a few cases of groups being kidnapped along the road and a number of military were killed in an ambush a month or so ago.

Re western Mindanao: This includes Zamboanga, Pagadian City, Lanao del Norte and Cotabato / Maguindanao etc.

I am forbidden to go there and if I go it is at my own risk. The few times that I have been to Cotabato or ZC I have had security meet me at the airport and escort me all the way.

It is an uncomfortable place to visit because not only are there military and police roadblocks all the way if you travel by road but the risk of opportunistic banditry is high.

You cannot stroll around any of these cities like you can anywhere else, and the bar scene is zero anyway.

If you find a woman in these cities that you cannot resist I would suggest that you fly her to Cebu or Davao or suggest she takes the long haul bus ride to either Davao or CdO.

You will have to promise her the fare and you might even have to pay for it upfront with all the risks that entails.

My advice: Unless you can convince her to meet you in Davao or CdO or Cebu or even Manila, ignore her and click on by and look for other women. Some hardy adventurers will tell you all sorts of stories about me being too conservative but I don't like taking risks and going to places where the locals are unpredictable in all sorts of ways, and especially for mongering.

I go to Zamboanga about once every 4-6 weeks and have been doing so for almost 8 years. Two or three years ago I would have disagreed with RK's post, as the city is not, strictly speaking in the conflict areas. However, it's situated about 40 minutes by boat from Basilan (lots of bad guys) , and is about 45 minutes or an hour by air from Sulu (even more bad guys) and it's become somewhat of a staging area. I was there about 6-8 months ago when a bomb went off at the airport, no more than 300 meters or so from the hotel in which I was staying. As little as two years ago, I walked around the city with no worries. I would not do so now and I encourage others who don't know the place to stay away.

There are a few clubs-Las Vegas, Zamboanga White, a place near the airport that used to be called Love Disco-and they're all pretty grungy with no foreigners. There's also a "take out" massage place called Penguin, which is equally grungy. But all of this is somewhat besides the point, which is that it's an unacceptable risk to go there. Zamboanga has no taxis, so transportation is pretty well limited to tricycles, which means you're an obvious and visible target. There are very few foreigners, so they stand out wherever they are.

I'm at the point now that when I go there, and I always have a car and driver, I go between my meeting sites, my office there and my hotel. I venture nowhere on foot and nowhere alone. There are few restaurants and no restaurants worth talking about. There are two hotels that are more or less acceptable to foreigners: the Garden Orchid, which is very close to the airport and which is where I always stay, and the Lantaca, which is right on the beach and too open, with too little security for my tastes.

Obviously, my situation is different from that of RK since I'm permitted to go and indeed have to go because we have lots of activities in and around the city. I do not use guards when I'm there, but as I said I have a car and a driver, and if I do have to venture out in the dark for meetings, I go with people who are armed.

This is not a place for the casual visitor and I agree with RK. If you simply must meet someone from Zambo, pay the Php3, 000 or so and fly her on the daily Cebu Pacific flight to Davao.

GE

[QUOTE=KongKing;1165502]I tried to PM you Redim but I can't. To do that you need to be a subscribing member or a senior member. Check the forum FAO for details. I would like to contact you about some of your possible new residential destinations.[/QUOTE]Inbox full is a sure sign of Legend status. That other guy in that minor Davao thread, not the Official Davao thread, the minor one, often has his Inbox full, now your Inbox is full. Congratulations on reaching Legend status, thus can not answer your illuminating and secret pm, LOL.

Hey folks, I just returned from a 10 day visit to Negros Occidental. 3 days in Bacolod. 5 days at Sipalay Beach, then 2 days back in Bacolod. I was there visiting a pinay online friend so I didn't get to partake in any mongering. But I do have a tidbit of information that might be useful for some of you.


While in Bacolod I stayed at the downtown Westown Hotel. 1100 pesos for a really nice room. Breakfast was excluded, but I'm not much of a morning eater. It's in a great location, smack dab in the middle of downtown and within walking distance from the SM Mall. I can't imagine a better lodging value in Bacolod.


Saturday afternoon and the lady who was with me decided to take a nap (guess I had more stamina than she did, haha). Anyway, I decided to go out for a walk. I walked north and eventually came to the main park in Bacolod. The south side of the park has a large sign (Welcome to Bacolod, Home of the Masskara Festival) , see the attached pic. It's a busy place on the weekend, with all the benches in the park center occupied by people enjoying the day.


As I strolled down the cement paths under the tall trees, I spied a white guy sitting alone. Our eyes met and he gave me a wave, so I strolled over to him to make conversation. Turns out he was American, the first one I had come across in Bacolod. Actually seeing white folks in downtown Bacolod is a rarity, probably because it's no where close to any worthwhile tourist attractions.


He seemed like a pretty cool guy, so I eventually asked him where the good places were to find "paid company" in Bacolod. He chuckled and said,"man, you're right in the middle of it". He then said,"see those girls sitting over there?". I looked and there were 3 young girls around 18 to 20 years old, sitting on a concrete bench. Then he pointed to another bench in another section of the park where 2 more girls were sitting. He said the park is the place where girls come to ply their wares.


I asked him about prices, and he said the going rate is usually 500 pesos, but you can sometimes negotiate it down to 300. Of course he said that they probably would start the negotiating at 1000 for we rich westerners, which is the unwritten law of the land here.


I'm not about to tell you that any of the girls were primo material. They were average at best, and one was downright fugly. If this had been Cebu or Manila, there's no way I would have considered bedding any of them considering all the other options of finding company there. But in Bacolod it's not quite as easy to find someone, especially during the day. So in a pinch I guess I would have lowered my standards and gone for the bronze medal.


Hope this helps someone.

[QUOTE=Keen Eye Joe; 1171782]Hey folks, I just returned from a 10 day visit to Negros Occidental. 3 days in Bacolod. 5 days at Sipalay Beach, then 2 days back in Bacolod. I was there visiting a pinay online friend so I didn't get to partake in any mongering. But I do have a tidbit of information that might be useful for some of you. <SNIP> I walked north and eventually came to the main park in Bacolod. The south side of the park has a large sign (Welcome to Bacolod, Home of the Masskara Festival). <SNIP> I eventually asked him where the good places were to find "paid company" in Bacolod. He chuckled and said,"man, you're right in the middle of it". He then said,"see those girls sitting over there?". I looked and there were 3 young girls around 18 to 20 years old, sitting on a concrete bench. Then he pointed to another bench in another section of the park where 2 more girls were sitting. He said the park is the place where girls come to ply their wares.
<SNIP> Hope this helps someone.[/QUOTE]

That is great information Joe (with the keen eye).

I was in Bacolod around 3 months ago for 2 nights only and I walked through this park a couple of times. I must say my antennae never twitched as I strolled around because I saw a lot of school-age kids but nothing that I would have been confident was old enough and willing enough. After your "heads-up" I will check more closely next time.

I am not "pissing on you" or even doubting what you say BUT. . . . . do you believe that your "new found friend" was reliable in what he said? Did he elaborate further? (eg. his experiences; were there any hassles, were all these girls looking etc?). Just checking on whether he was relating information from his experience or whether he was actually sitting there fantasising that all these girls were "plying their wares" and he wished he could partake.

My experiences in all of these rural "cities" eg Butuan, Iloilo, Bacolod, Ormoc. Etc is that there are always groups of girls sitting around swapping tsismis in the central city parks but I tend to stand out a bit (white, tall and slim) and I just cannot imagine myself going up to these groups and trying to draft one out of the "herd".
I also just can't imagine one of these shy country girls suddenly leaving her barkada group and going off with an unknown foreigner who happened to chat her up. I suspect it will require a deft exchange of cell phone numbers and a fair bit of follow-up before she ends up in your hotel bed. Now I know there will be guys who say they have had instant success in parks like this but my long experience of living and working here is that such a rapid "pick-up" will be more the exception than the rule.

Hey Red, I certainly understand your concern as to whether this guy was on the up and up and not just feeding me a line of hooey. I have a pretty good "BS Radar" and I never got the impression he was some sort of flake. I must admit I didn't press him for any personal experiences he might have had as it would have been a bit rude of me to ask him point blank. When I asked him about prices he volunteered the info, so I surmised he knew the game.

He said he and his wife had lived in Bacolod for about 5 years and he came often to the park to enjoy the shade and to chat with the locals to pass the time as a lot of friendly expats probably do. I certainly couldn't see this place as being a popular venue for foreigners to come score someone. 99 percent of any potential customers would be Pinoy, and I'm sure the "game" is a lot different with them than it would be with recognizable foreigners like you and I.

I will add that after I left him, I strolled down the path toward where the group of 3 girls were sitting. I made eye contact with them and the "alpha-female" of the group said,"Hello, sir" in a friendly yet not flirty way. I replied in kind, then continued walking without her replying to me. If they were looking for a score, I surmised she would have said something like "where are you going?" like I've had happen while strolling along Dumaguete's promenade after sunset. But then again I did not act interested in stopping and chatting with them, so nothing more was said.

As an aside, one night my Bacolod companion and I were sitting in the hotel room, deciding what to do later that evening. I suggested going to a disco and listening to music and dancing, but she quickly pooh-poohed that idea. When I asked why, she said,"discos are just pick up places for prostitutes". She says a lot of older Pinoy men go there to find young willing semi-pros. Sounds exactly like what I've experienced in my two trips to Mango Square discos in Cebu.

I haven't seen any information in this forum about Bacolod discos. Anyone have any first-hand info?

i was in bacolod for about 10 days. at first i didn't see anything. having been in the plaza (and i'm assuming that's the park mentioned in the post) during the day, there are no vibes.

but at night there is a p4p scene. the girls are in the park across the street, and although i wasn't in the park / plaza, i was on the other side of the street in a little sidewalk cantina. there's a jollibee right across from it.

there was also a girlie bar in the area, just down the street from the plaza, but the prices were ridiculous. i ran into one of the girls after hours and made arrangements. there was also a female pimp working the street, but you've really got to be careful of thieves and ****d.

you're probably better off going to the bars at the goldenfields complex. i ran into the owner of happy fred's (in goldenfields) who's a great guy and might prove to be a good source of info.

ps keen eye joe, looking at your picture, that's the plaza. jollibee is to the left, and if you go in the direction of traffic in the photo, to the right, there's a girlie bar on the right on that street not far from there (100 yards tops).

Spending 3 days here. Wow there's little here. The Gaisano mall is crap, old, low-brow. The newer, Limketkai mall is much nicer, many outdoor places, reminds you a bit of Greenbelt in Makati (just a bit, not quite as upscale). So far, that's it. Dragonslayer is right, its just a larger version of Surigao or Butuan. Having walked both malls, not a single look.

19 solid dating site gals who agreed flat out to meet-and-bang. 19. Am on my second night, have met with 3 of them so far. Had one walk away; she brought her cousin, we chatted an hour at Starbucks, and she walked. What an ego shot. She is the second meet-and-bang girl ever to not come back to my hotel after a drink. I nearly fell out of my chair. She said,"I'm not ready for this. Sorry po." The other two girls I sent packing: one was not attractive (fatter than shown on cam) , and the other, who had agreed in first chat to meet / bang and didn't seem to have any reservations or morality, was in fact sharp, moral, and wanted to know if I would marry her after banging her. OMG. She has sent this afternoon, since meeting, (no kidding) 61 txt msgs asking relationship questions. Strike 3. Whereas AC was a whirlwind of 2-6 girls a day, this has been 36 hours of, well, johnson needs a break anyway.

For the other 16 meet / bang contacts (almost all of whom I've chatted / txtd in the last 48 hours) , they have either:

1. Not responded to txt / chat;

2. Responded negatively: they don't really live in the area, gramma is to sick to leave at the moment (same as washing her hair?) , etc.

OK, what are the names of those gogo bars in the area? I'll post another report here about my hotel.

Don't waste your time. The 1400 for a standard room (double bed) is fair. The hotel is large, and looks nice in the lobby and dining area. Mahogony, nice tile and nice stairwells. The room is spartan, like Diplomat in Cebu (fuente). The website claims free wifi in the room. I emailed in advance of the reservation to confirm this. Here is the website's description of the Standard Room:

High-Definition LCD TV, air conditioned room, free Wi-Fi internet access, IDD / NDD telephone, hot and cold shower, working table, breakfast included.

The wifi worked yesterday, and stopped this afternoon. I went walking around the hotel with my laptop to see if it was just near my room that had dropped off. Nope, everywhere. I took the lappy down to the lobby and it popped back on. Must be a temporary glitch, so I went back up the stairs. Off it went. Back to the lobby and front desk. I showed the receptionist my laptop:

Her: Yes. No more free wifi in rooms.

Me: Can I pay for it in my room?

Her: No sir. Only free in lobby.

Me: but I chose this place because you said it have free wifi in the rooms.

Her: no sir, we never say that.

Me: take a look at this email. It has your name on the bottom. You answer my question about free wifi in the room.

Her: I never say that sir.

Me: this is your email or not? You typed your name on the bottom. 3 separate times you said wifi in the room?

Her: yes sir it is.

I went to the website and showed her the room description you read above.

Me: this says free wifi in the room?

Her: no sir it does not.

Me: are we reading the same thing?

Her: sir its lobby only. Always.

Me: it worked yesterday.

Her: yes but we change it.

Me: so its not lobby-only always.

Her: your confusing me sir haha.

Me: you are the only one laughing. I need wifi in the room, not the lobby.

Her: you need to speak to manager. Hes here tomorrow. Maybe at 9am. Usually by 2pm. Sometimes don't come.

================================

The aircon went out this afternoon. I turned on the power in the room with the key in the wall, and POP the aircon dies. Sounded like a breaker. I went to the front desk and told them, they said they would send an engineer right up. Sweltering away for 30 minutes waiting, I go back down to the desk. Same receptionist."Oh? When did it go out sir?" OMG."I send engineer right now ok?" I told her I would go to the mall and come back in 2 hours. 2 hours later upon return, no aircon. Back at the desk: "Sorry sir. Engineer cannot go in your room without you. He's going there now." 20 sweltering minutes later the bellboy comes in bangs his hand on the wall by the aircon wall-unit and it comes right on.

Last night I wake up at 2am to yelling outside. The security guards are playing grab-ass in the street. Back to sleep. 2:45 I awaken to loud music, disco thumping. Walk down to the lobby to find the night receptionist guy sound asleep. Speakers in the ceiling above him are distorting with the same loud music; my room is directly above. I ring the bell on the front desk twice, to no avail, he's snoring."HEY!" He jumps up and the chair flies out from under him and he falls down."Sorry sir! What do you need?" "Turn the effing music down!" Its at this point I realize he's not wearing shoes. He walks over to the stereo, and slips on the tile floor in his bare feet, and nearly does the splits. Hoping he pulled a groin muscle.

Can't wait to see what happens next here.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1175266]For the other 16 meet / bang contacts (almost all of whom I've chatted / txtd in the last 48 hours) , they have either:

1. Not responded to txt / chat;

2. Responded negatively: they don't really live in the area, gramma is to sick to leave at the moment (same as washing her hair?) , etc.

OK, what are the names of those gogo bars in the area? I'll post another report here about my hotel.[/QUOTE]Bad luck. I especially love the hotel!

While the 'in-love-after-only-2-chats' girl that I met and sent home today sent me the 61 txts wanting to give me her virginity so I can marry her tomorrow, I had enough, and was sitting outside with the security guard at the front door (the phone reception inside is bad). At one point I looked over to him and asked if there were girly go-go bars in the area."Yes sir." Later I go out and he gets me a cab and asks where I'm going."The gogo bars we talked about before. Any one of them is fine." He says something to the driver, and off we go. 2 minutes later we pull up at Lemketkai Mall, where I met the girls today. Very upscale. WTF? The driver was looking around.

Driver: Sir, you want Coco bar?

Me: gogo bar.

Driver: huh.

Me: gogo bar. Girls?

Driver: huh.

Me: naked girls. Dancing girls. Barfine girls. (I made the girlie-figure with my hands)

Driver: oh. Ok.

He drives another block and pulls over.

Driver: here is coconut bar sir.

Me: what?

Driver: coco.

There was no such place there.

Me: take me back to the hotel.

Driver: ok.

So back we go. I say to the security guy the driver does not know where to go. Security says: "Coco sir?" O M F G! Another driver walks up and says to go with him. We jump in and he takes me to Blush's bar. About a dozen girls. Several dance (clothes on). I've asked the driver to come in and have a drink, which he was happy with (I was concerned with not getting a cab back at night). The waitress suggests I barfine one. I ask how much, she says "3. 5 for short time." I nearly barf up my san mig. Sitting back in the hotel lobby now on INTERNATIONAL SEX GUIDE, mostly because that banner is on every page, and the hotel is fully booked up for a convention: "Public Service Employees" or similar. Now that I'm relegated to the restraunt and lobby for my wifi, f*ck 'them. Let every public service employee in the joint who is also toying with his laptop see ISG each time I refresh. Hahaha. I'm the only kano in the joint. Think they know why I'm here?

MANILA, Philippines (AP) — Philippine police say 14 armed men have abducted the 50-year-old Filipino wife of a German national, her son and her nephew from a southern island near a stronghold of al-Qaida-linked militants.

Senior Supt. Edwin de Ocampo says the men snatched Gerfa Yeatts Lunsmann, her 14-year-old son and her 19-year-old nephew from a house in Zamboanga city's Tictabon island village before dawn Tuesday, fleeing on two motorized boats.

De Ocampo says the abductors have not contacted authorities or made any ransom demands.

The victims were visiting relatives. The woman's husband, who lives in the USA state of Virginia, is abroad.

Tictabon is near Basilan island, a stronghold of al-Qaida-linked Abu Sayyaf militants. Moro Islamic Liberation Front rebels also have a presence in the area.

Tried to PM you as I have just arrived at CDO and checked into the Marco in Cugman. Sounds like you are having a pretty miserable time here in CDO! I have three DIA dates lined up this afternoon, I am waiting at Limketkai for the first one to arrive, the other one who should have been the first date is late (surprise surprise) so the dates may collide figuratively speaking. If so I will just tell the one who originally kept me waiting, to wait see how she likes being made to wait around for one and a half hours. I then have a further date at 7pm out of town and received a confirmation text from her that she is still available. I do not plan these dates to be meet and fuck, rather exploratory meetings to see what they are like. I already blew my load in Cebu this morning and I am not feeling that frisky at the moment, but things can easily change once I have met the girl. If you are still around in CDO PM me with your cell if you fancy a cold beer later

Thanks Mort.

Fairly fed up with CDO, I decide to depart a day early. Having been ignored by oodles of girls who had 48-60 hours prior agreed to meet / bang, I packed up and hit the front desk by 8:30am to check out and get to the bus terminal. Taxi to the terminal for a 9am bus. The bus has pulled out and gone exactly one block when I get this txt from one of the girls who ignored me:

Her: its me where you now?

Me: where you been?

Her: my baby was sick. But I want to come to your hotel now even its early. We f*ck like we talk about before.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

For the rest of the day I got txts from 3 other girls who also ignored me, who now wanted to meet. Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes the bear gets you.

Well I met up with three DIA contacts yesterday, actually it was 4 if you count one meeting where two girls turned up, but more about that later.

I had arranged to meet two DIA contacts yesterday about 2 hours apart so as not to have overlapping appointments, but as is usually the case, the first date turned up over one and a half hours late, just as my other date had arrived. I told the first one (an 18 year old student) that I was waiting in McDonalds and asked the other date (two girls) to wait for me as I was busy at that moment.

The 18 year old student for some reason took another 20 minutes to arrive at Macdonalds despite me texting her numerous times asking her to hurry. I placed myself around the back of the store so I could watch her arrival through the glass, as I had a good view of the entrance but was fairly well hidden from view myself. I texted her one final time telling her I was pissed at being kept waiting for so long and was leaving, only to see her sidle up to the front of Macdonalds, walking as though she had all the time in the world and not in the least bit hurried as I would have expected. Sadly despite seeing her on cam a few times, the one thing I now noticed is that her ass was way too big for my liking. Her body was chunky without being fat and she was dressed like a pro, to be completely honest just not my type. Now I knew she lived very close to the centre of town, so I decided to teach her a lesson and I texted her back saying I had left and didn't want to see her because she was so late. I would normally never agree with a guy who deliberately stood a girl up but in this particular instance she had pissed me off so much I was past caring and I also knew she could get home easily enough. A couple of terse texts were sent back and forth and that was the end of that.

Whilst I was sauntering in and around Limketkai, I had several girls making eye contact and a few even turning round to look at me when we walked past. Sadly I am no Brad Pitt, but I certainly feel like him when I am here. I just did not have time to really see if I could exploit these potential opportunities, but the vibes seemed good. I will save that for another day!

My second two dates were also DIA girls. In fact I had kind of engineered the two girls turning up together as I had told my chat mate I was accompanied with another foreigner also looking for a girl friend. I know it is a bit underhanded but it means that I usually can pick the best of the two girls or as is often the case, both girls will decide to accompany me. Anyway we sent several texts back and forth and arranged to meet in Starbucks by Limketkai Mall, and I was asked to describe what I was wearing so they could identify me. Having agreed to meet in Starbucks I ensconced myself in the outside seating area with a tea waiting for the girls. When they turned up I apologised and told them my imaginary friend had found another girl but they did not seem bothered at all. We spent over 30 minutes chatting, they were aged 18 and 19 and both pretty girls, one was very slim whilst the other was bordering the stage were I thought she was just a little too big but still not fat. To be fair they were both enjoyable company and I could see that we would have fun together.

Both girls agreed to come back to my hotel later (it was now 6pm and I had a further date planned for 7pm). I told them my cover story, that I had an American friend living in CDO and that they had invited me for dinner that evening. I tested the water and suggested that both girls stay with me at my hotel later and after some whispering they agreed. The girls told me they were really hungry and I gave them 300 pesos for food and the jeepney fare and both seemed delighted with this.

I then went back to the hotel, showered and changed and caught a cab out to Bugo about 15 KM East outside of town where I met my third date for the day. Another pretty 18 year old but looking for a serious relationship and marriage and not willing to fuck around for money, at least that was the impression I got. She arrived with her sister and we went for dinner in a place that resembled an old man's working club in the UK, complete with a terrible out of tune musician and two pretty but out of tune singers. I was forced to endure a disgusting meal of deep fried chicken and rice, whilst my ear drums were continually assaulted by a sound system that belted out the music and song at a hundred decibels. When the food arrived at the table, I started helping myself to the rice and an enormous plate of fried chicken, looked up and saw both girls staring at me expectantly? I said "whats wrong" and the older sister said to me with a straight face, "aren't you going to say grace before you eat?" I thought to myself WTF and reluctantly returned my piece of fried chicken back to the main plate. I then lowered my head in unison with the two girls, clasped my hands together and sat in silence whilst she mumbled a prayer. I was also thinking of a prayer in my head but I guess I was praying for other things, the kind God might not agree with! I even managed to make the sign of the cross when she had finished which went down well with both girls (my Catholic upbringing comes in handy sometimes). I told the girls I was really tired and I caught a taxi back after the meal to my hotel. I then texted the other two girls and apologised that I was tired and needed some sleep, actually the complete truth in this case. Got back to my hotel and crashed at about midnight feeling exhausted.

[QUOTE=Mortman;1175858]Anyway we sent several texts back and forth and arranged to meet in Starbucks by Limketkai Mall, and I was asked to describe what I was wearing so they could identify me. Having agreed to meet in Starbucks I ensconced myself in the outside seating area with a tea waiting for the girls.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. I sat at that same Starbucks a few nights ago outside and met a stunner and her friend. The stunner was the one who stood me up after the coffee. Nice gal. They sent me the same txt, asking what I'm wearing. In fact in the last few days I've gotten that txt from multiple girls. In response to "What you wearing?" I usually txt back: "I'm the only person here blond / blue." To which one usually comes back from the girl: "Oh ya hahaha." Always cracks me up: they have all seen me on cam, and in the province I rarely see another kano. I got the same txt in Butuan today.

[QUOTE=Mortman;1175858]When the food arrived at the table, I started helping myself to the rice and an enormous plate of fried chicken, looked up and saw both girls staring at me expectantly? I said "whats wrong" and the older sister said to me with a straight face, "aren't you going to say grace before you eat?" I thought to myself WTF and reluctantly returned my piece of fried chicken back to the main plate. I then lowered my head in unison with the two girls, clasped my hands together and sat in silence whilst she mumbled a prayer.[/QUOTE]Haaaaaaaaaaa. Today I met a sweetie who says she's a virgin. Talked a few times for the last month. Agreed to meet and give me her virginity, even after I told her that's not a good idea. Wow. Asked if she could bring a cousin, and she did. WOW the cousin is a stunner. The cousin and I had a blast for 30 minutes (Jollibee, very romantic) , and my gal never spoke."Oh she shy to you. Because your guapo." Finally I said I was leaving, and asked the shy virgin if she wanted to come with me. She had not spoken to that point, and could not speak. She was blushing and could not look at me. The cousin was trying to talk her into staying with me ("look, hes handsome, go with him". Right there in jolibee so everyone could know what was happening) , but the shy one would not respond, and the cousin took her home. Just now as I'm typing this, the shy one comes online and apologizes: "Never seen foreigner man before in my life. I can't look your eyes because they blue." I think she got flustered. Originally in chat the shy one said she was 25, as was on her dating profile. But the cousin squealed and informed me "she's running 19 next month."

Another cutie was txting while I was meeting the shy girl. After shy girl left I had the cutie meet me at Dunkin Donuts. A meal at the food court followed, as did an afternoon of fun in the room (finally one who I didn't have to send away or walked away!). Too shy for pics, and was fine with 500. After the fun we napped, then went across the street for some halohalo. Srangely Mort, she asked if I was born-again christian. She said she was previously Iglesia n Christian. Then, like a true christian, she went back to the room where she offered boomboom again. Just sent her packing. Another one who said she's 25 in chat, but the I'd showed her as 22. In chat she had one child, a 2-yr-old daughter. But the boobs were too big and she was lactating. After the ditty she said she also has a 6-month old son, with a fever, and needed pesos.

As I'm writing this, the shy one comes online and apologizes, saying she never seen anyone with blue eyes before and got too embarrassed to speak in jolibee.

I had at least two dozen dead certainties from DIA for my arrival in CDO but nothing ever pans out like you expect in the Philippines and always assume the worst. Some of these girls I have spent weeks and weeks chatting to on line to develop a rapport and make the first meeting that much less awkward.

Probably out of my dead certainties I have only had real success with maybe 30% of the DIA contacts I had made. It seems that unlike a lot of other places, CDO girls show Cagayan as their place of residence because it is the nearest big city but many actually live at least an hours drive outside the city, or one and a half hours if travelling by jeepney. I found many girls just did not have the means to pay their fare one way to meet me and that they could not even borrow the money to get here. Some show CDO but live in Ozamis, Dipolog and other areas many hours drive from CDO. Even the ones living one or two hours out of town could not afford or borrow the 40 or 50 pesos to get here and I am not really willing to drive around the North of Mindanao in a taxi going to meet these girls

Of course I checked where they lived during on line conversations and many gave assurances they could get to CDO but the reality was somewhat different. I am meeting a 28 years old DIA girl tonight in CDO and she is getting a jeepney in to town with her friend. Now she has already told me the journey by jeepney will take one and a half hours and we have spent most of the last two hours texting back and forwards, with me continually reassuring her that I will be there to meet her and that I will pay her fare. Even if she was completely not my type, I will be there as promised to meet her and pay her fare, I would not want to let her down at all. I only met her on line (DIA) this lunchtime and she was initially very suspicious about why I was in CDO. My well rehearsed cover story is that I have an American friend living here with his Filipina wife and kids, but they have had to go to Davao/Manila/Cebu unexpectedly due to a family illness. Maybe this meeting will prove fruitful, at the very least I will hope to have dinner with two charming female companions and if it turns out to be something more I will report back here tomorrow.

I had been chatting on line to a 35 year old single mom with an 18 year old daughter for some weeks. They are living just outside CDO. She was keen to find a foreigner for her daughter and I was keen to help her. She had assured me that her daughter was a virgin and although I doubted that, anyway it helped to fuel my desires and fantasies.

She had arranged to meet me yesterday first at Limketkai Mall and then later at my hotel with her daughter but had stood me up. Anyway I know I broke the mongers cardinal sin and told her where I was staying and this afternoon she turned up unannounced and sent me a text saying she was waiting for me in reception. WTF luckily I was at the hotel and alone so I went over to find two ugly women sat in reception waiting for me. It turns out she had left her daughter at home and brought her sister in law, because they wanted to meet me. Her daughter was apparently busy in the province and could not come. I felt I had been set up and I was very candid with them about my feelings. I told her quite bluntly that she had no right to turn up unnanounced and to NEVER come to my hotel again without permission. I told her I had come to meet her daughter not her sister in law and to take a hike, especially as she had already stood me up. I quietly ranted at them for a few minutes both of them sat sullen looking as they listened. I pulled out a wad of 20 and 50 peso notes and said "I will pay your jeepney fare" but the sister in law said "we don't want your money thank you" and both women sauntered off like scolded schoolchildren.

I then got a text from the mother about 15 minutes later saying how badly I had treated them and that they had spent over 300 pesos on a taxi fare to get there. I called her bluff and sent a text back quote " I saw you arrive by jeepney you liar, you stood me up yesterday and you arrive here without your daughter and without you letting me know, don't waste my time again". I never heard from her after that

well the two dates last night were charming company, we all had dinner at the golden cowrie just round the block from macdonalds and close to yellow cab pizza. food was ok it serves traditional phillipines food but is slightly more upmarket than the normal local eateries and food was pleasant enough.

the girls were aged 24 and 28, the youngest had two young children but she was actually the nicest of the two. we spent a couple of hours laughing and joking and then i suggested it might be a bit late to travel back home (it was around 8pm). the older of the two told me she had a brother living behind robinsons mall and that they would go to see him so i told her if she and her friend needed a place to stay for the night, i had plenty of room at my place (i am all heart). i gave them 100 pesos each for their jeepney fares.

then went off to meet fellow isg member kongking to do a trawl of the bars around divisoria and got a text about an hour later from the older girl thanking me for my kindness but that they would make their way home. i think they are both achievable but it will take a bit more time and effort and i am not so sure i have the inclination.

kongking and myself tried to hit the bars at around 8. 30pm but most do not open until around 9pm and we eventually found ourselves in spooks. i have been in spooks a few times before on previous visits to cdo but this is the first time i met the owner mike. seems like he is having all sorts of problems with the philippines bureau of internal revenue (tax authourity) and from all accounts has been treated pretty badly. what i did like about mike was his staunch resilience in the face of such adversity and how he refuses to pay people off, when completely surrounded in shit storm of corruption. i take my hat off to him, i could never endure some of the problems he has encountered over the last 5 years and it just reinforces my view, never to open a business here.

i was not particularly enamoured with spooks the first time i visited at year or two back but i have changed my mind now. mike was very welcoming, knowledgable and helpful and i was never ever pressurised to buy lady drinks. all the lady drink prices are clearly displayed on the wall so there is transparency with the pricing structure. unlike most of the other bars in cdo, there is no cover charge at spooks and the most interesting aspect of all is that there is no longer any bar fine, that is something you negotiate individually with the lady of your choice. the women last night were of varied quality but seemed more friendly than most of the other bars i have been to. there was one new girl at the bar an absolute stunner, aged 18 and just started a week ago. now i am not a big user of bar girls but i have to say i would have taken this girl in the blink of an eye, but sadly kongking had already beaten me to her and had visited her earlier that evening and struck a deal. kongking you lucky sob.

we did a few bars most of whom were charging around 55 pesos cover charge plus the cost of a drink so your first drink would cost about 110 pesos give or take.

most of the bars in cdo are all within walking distance of each other and we spent some time in a bar around the corner from spooks (newly opened i believe) called 'three point shots' girls were of a good standard, usual cover charge of 55 and sml 55 making it 110. the thing that i did not like was that the bar fine here (as in most other bars) is 3000 but that is only for short time. that is way, way too expensive considering that you may have bought a couple of expensive lady drinks before bar fining, an hours pop back at your hotel could easily cost you 4000 or more, when you add your drinks, her drinks, the bar fine and taxi home. from memory this is about the going rate in most of the bars in cdo though if you use some of the more primitive local bars prices are much cheaper and the girls can still be remarkably pretty.

even though it was a thursday night, divisoria was bustling, several young hookers plying their wares around the back streets, but numbers definitely down from my last visit in january when the place seemed to be teeming with young street hookers. we got chatting to one expat drinking at a local bar who claims **** hookers have been taking guys back to some of the nearby short time hotels, only for a couple of cops to burst in and demand payment. i don't know how true this is and though i don't condone the pratice using girls of questionable age, i also despise corruption, greed and dishonest practices. just a warning to other mongers to be on your guard.

just want to say thanks to kongking for introducing me to a completely hidden expat community in cdo, one that seems to be friendly, thriving and very active. ignore some of the posters who say there are not many foreigners in cdo, that is just not an accurate assessment at all. ok compared to places like cebu there are not as many granted, but i would definitely consider cdo as one of my retirement destinations next year, one because i like the city for all sorts of reasons, but secondly you have a pretty well established and supportive expat community there.

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1176271]<SNIP

. I felt I had been set up and I was very candid with them about my feelings. I told her quite bluntly that she had no right to turn up unnanounced and to NEVER come to my hotel again without permission. I told her I had come to meet her daughter not her sister in law and to take a hike, especially as she had already stood me up. I quietly ranted at them for a few minutes both of them sat sullen looking as they listened. I pulled out a wad of 20 and 50 peso notes and said "I will pay your jeepney fare" but the sister in law said "we don't want your money thank you" and both women sauntered off like scolded schoolchildren.

I then got a text from the mother about 15 minutes later saying how badly I had treated them and that they had spent over 300 pesos on a taxi fare to get there. I called her bluff and sent a text back quote " I saw you arrive by jeepney you liar, you stood me up yesterday and you arrive here without your daughter and without you letting me know, don't waste my time again". I never heard from her after that[/QUOTE]I am glad it ended up OK for you Mortman but these sort of things scare me a bit, especially since they already know where you are staying and what you look like. I assume they didn't know your room number.

Just to elaborate. I had a mate stay in Cebu at Eddie's Hotel a year or so ago (before it became Beverly Boutique) and he had a very similar scenario to you. Sent 2 women off like you did. He got a text a few minutes after they had left saying they were going to report him to the police for assaulting them. He guessed they were bluffing but soon after he got a fone call from reception saying there was a guy downstairs asking for him. He freaked out and told the woman at reception to say he wasn't there and he left the hotel by the back door. He returned a few hours later when he assumed the coast was clear and checked out and went to another hotel. It seems from what he was told by the receptionist later that it was probably the woman's husband who was at reception but he never found out any further details. Luckily the receptionist was discreet and called him up without giving anything away to the visitor. I don't think you can underestimate what these pissed-off pinoys can and might do, so I err on the side of extreme caution. It just gets way too complicated and remember - the customer might always be right but the foreigner is always wrong.

I must say my absolutely fundamental rule is NEVER tell women where you are staying until you are already in the taxi going back to the hotel and she has got her hand in your lap.

Mortman, I like your style and postings. And you are good company!

Yes we did a round of the bars in the downtown area last night. Just to complement Mortman's posting, the 'Three Points Shots' bar was the new discovery for me. It has been open just a month and replaces the upstairs Thrives nightclub; same owners I gather. Some nice cuties there but, as Mortman says. 3000p for a short time bar fine (all inclusive) is ridiculous. It is located at street level on Capistrano Street, opposite the new SaveMore shop.

We called in at Japanese owned Gion and the New Love Oro; two Clubs like Spooks with comfortable seating. But both were dead on a Thursday night at about 10pm. No girls on stage at the time, a few sitting around the edges, just a few customers and we didn't bother to stay. Next then to Fantastic which is popular with some members here on ISG but for me it is a bit of a turn off. The plastic and aluminium cane chairs are not all that comfortable; the half dozen dancing girls had a rather fuller figure but one in particular I am sure would put a smile on D-Cups face. They danced mechanically, somewhat stone-faced, and mainly preened themselves in the wrap around mirrors. There seemed to be some nice young slim cuties (Guest Relations Officers or GROs) sitting in the back rows behind us but we had little opportunity to size them up.

There are a few down market Clubs, stackable chairs, like Hot Babes, Club 39, and Coras 2, 3. There seemed to be nothing much there last night, but sometimes the place for the real new girl discovery. If Mortman's still around we may take a closer look tonight. Friday and Saturday evening is the Night Cafe and street market and the Divisoria area will be buzzing.

As Mortman and Westcoast1 have found, finding and capturing chat-mates takes much more effort, patience, and let-downs, in this part of the Philippines than in Luzon and Cebu. Don't expect to bed a chat-mate after a few chats and a first meeting. In fact the going can be tough if you are looking for instant success, and the clubs may be the answer but at a big price, or use the street scene, at a much cheaper price but higher risk.

KongKing

I have nothing much to add on the current status of CDO as Mortman and Kongking have summed it up well. My guess is that the whole scene, together with the city will change dramatically over the next couple of years. CDO is one of two cities-Davao being the other-that are booming economically in Mindanao. Indeed, they are two of the only true success stories in the whole sorry country. With lots of local investment washing in, the club scene will doubtless change as well. There will be more clubs I think and perhaps slightly higher end venues. I can see that in Davao, the new Ayala Mall is forcing changes in the whole retail market.

I can well understand why some would find CDO attractive as a possible retirement destination. It's fairly well governed, as Philippine cities go, and it's reasonably attractive and clean. For me, in the end, it's just too small and there's no international destination available from the city, which means if you have to bail in a hurry, you're limited in your actions. However, once the new Ayala Mall in Cebu is completed, that may change the face of things in ways that are not entirely foreseeable. Right now, I find it too provincial.

GE

got stood up last night by a dia contact who didn't reply to text messages when she failed to turn up at scheduled meeting at 10pm last night. was in a bit of a bad mood as kongking and i had gone out for some dinner together at a really nice thai restaraunt, i was starving hungry and thai food being my favourite, i was looking forward to a nice dinner. i knew it was a bad omen when it took about four attempts before the waiter (on a work placement) got our order correct and then only when a more senior member of staff intervened. we placed our food order after the drinks arrived and after one hour went to investigate whether they had despatched the waiter to bangkok to collect our meals! seems like there was a mix up and the food order had not been taken. we both walked out in disgust without paying for the drinks. the failure of my dia date to turn up was just the icing on the cake.

kongking was otherwise engaged later in the evening so i set about wandering divisoria and i was surprised at the number of young hookers lining the streets after 11pm. when i say dozens i am not exaggerating and if street hookers are your thing, cdo beats cebu hands down. some of the girls were very cute, and without exception almost all will initially quote 1500 pesos to a foreigner and almost 99% will accept 500 even for long time. i spent an hour or so wandering around, stopping and chatting to the girls, who were on the whole engaging and friendly. the streets are quite dark at this time of night, but as i have always found on every visit to cdo i felt completely at ease, absolutely no danger or risk at all. obviously common sense (that intagible and hard to describe quality) must always prevail, but i am always polite, don't take unecessary risks and have never ever felt in the slightest way threatened, wandering around downtown cdo at night.

plenty of massage places, most offer legitimate massage although there are one or two places that are just fronts for rather tired old prostitutes to overcharge you for poor sex. i counted three blind massage places last night and although i had already had a very good massage earlier in the evening, i had this peverted fantasy of having some attractive blind woman rubbing her hands over my naked body. i checked all three places out and none of them would allow male customers to be massaged by female therapists, fuck that i thought, there is no way i am paying a guy to touch my body.

i ended up in spooks with an old friend last night and stayed for a couple of drinks. correction on my earlier post, spooks has a cover charge of 35 after 9pm which is still very reasonable and cheaper than most places. girls were of a good quality last night, the floorshows are better than most of the other bars and i had an enjoyable time there last night without taking anything out.

will be back in divisoria tonight if my dia contacts let me down this time, i will probably get a take away from one of the clubs. i need to get back to cebu to see daisy tomorrow, she is arranging a couple of students to meet me once i have checked into my hotel, the anticipation is killing me.

[QUOTE=Mortman;1176271]I had at least two dozen dead certainties from DIA for my arrival in CDO but nothing ever pans out like you expect in the Philippines and always assume the worst. Some of these girls I have spent weeks and weeks chatting to on line to develop a rapport and make the first meeting that much less awkward.[/QUOTE]To be honest, I missed meeting several of my contacts because something went completely wrong in the txting transmission. I sent several girls a txt saying,"Hi its me, this is my phils numer. I'm in CDO tomorrow. Txt back please." They never got the txt. 3 of them have sworn me up / down pretty good, saying they kept waiting for me to send my number. Once I had (later) sent the # in YM, they contacted me, too late.

On the other hand, in both CDO and Butuan, I got a LOT of they bring their mom / sis / auntie to meet me. I say fine, bring one person, but they bring two extra. I'm very clear prior in chat that if mom doesn't like me, she can take the girl home. Otherwise, its a short meeting, and the girl is going with me to the hotel. Usually in Cebu and Manila this is easy stuff, the mom / aunt sends the youngster off to my room with me. But not cdo / butuan. There seems to be some confusion. They leave and go home (all of them) , only to txt to set up ANOTHER meeting for mom / aunt to chat me. Nothin' doing', sister. Both the girl, and her mom / aunt / sis, got mad at me after, when I didn't want another public meeting."Bring her to my hotel, or don't bother." Is followed by this from auntie: "Why? What your purpose there?" I get the feeling the girl is too shy to tell her kin what she's agreed to.

Not so in AC. An aunt brought her niece (the girl) and another niece directly to Central Park. Once inside the room, the aunt grabbed my morning newspaper and said,"I wait in lobby."

Just did 5 days in PG (Sabang).5 go-go bars open (Sabang Disco, Las Vegas Disco, Philippine Village Disco, Venus Disco, Broadway Disco). Pink Panther was closed. The scene is OK for Westerners if you don't insist on the youngest, prettiest girls, because they are 100% reserved for Koreans. PV Disco and Venus Disco has a handful of absolute stunners, much better in my opinion than anything you see in AC, but if you are not Korean you have about as much chance of bedding Beyonce. I even tried offering P3000 ST (on top of the P1000 BF!) for one of them, and the answer was still no. Mamasan in the PV actually told me that those girls are not allowed to go with anyone but a Korean (the place is Korean owned). So, unless you come from that country which only even exists because the US allows it to, maybe you will find PG to be a frustration. I did.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1176959]To be honest, I missed meeting several of my contacts because something went completely wrong in the txting transmission. I sent several girls a txt saying,"Hi its me, this is my phils numer. I'm in CDO tomorrow. Txt back please." They never got the txt. 3 of them have sworn me up / down pretty good, saying they kept waiting for me to send my number. Once I had (later) sent the # in YM, they contacted me, too late.

On the other hand, in both CDO and Butuan, I got a LOT of they bring their mom / sis / auntie to meet me. I say fine, bring one person, but they bring two extra. I'm very clear prior in chat that if mom doesn't like me, she can take the girl home. Otherwise, its a short meeting, and the girl is going with me to the hotel. Usually in Cebu and Manila this is easy stuff, the mom / aunt sends the youngster off to my room with me. But not cdo / butuan. There seems to be some confusion. They leave and go home (all of them) , only to txt to set up ANOTHER meeting for mom / aunt to chat me. Nothin' doing', sister. Both the girl, and her mom / aunt / sis, got mad at me after, when I didn't want another public meeting."Bring her to my hotel, or don't bother." Is followed by this from auntie: "Why? What your purpose there?" I get the feeling the girl is too shy to tell her kin what she's agreed to.

Not so in AC. An aunt brought her niece (the girl) and another niece directly to Central Park. Once inside the room, the aunt grabbed my morning newspaper and said,"I wait in lobby."[/QUOTE]The Smart network has been having some issues lately. I've gotten messages to that effect when trying to text in Manila over the last few days. That being said, you can never rule out the possibility that some girls just got a case of the cold puki when the time came to actually go through with their promises to meat with you. The girls also chat multiple mongers and another fellow may simply be occupying her hole for the next couple days or weeks. Expect a frantic burst of communication once he departs with his pesos and no commitment to long term fiscal injections via Western Union.

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1177166]The girls also chat multiple mongers and another fellow may simply be occupying her hole for the next couple days or weeks. Expect a frantic burst of communication once he departs with his pesos and no commitment to long term fiscal injections via Western Union.[/QUOTE]That's whats happened."You left? How dare you! You say were going to be together!"

As CM mentioned, SMART had some problems last week.

I've also found that it helps to turn the phone off and on every once in a while. Sometimes the phone just needs a reset. Once I sent a pile of messages and got nothing back for a whole day, eventually learning that nothing had been transmitted. I've learned that if you don't get replies almost immediately, you should start trouble shooting.

And the reason I use SMART is because I had a problem with GLOBE a few years back. I lost several days because of that. At the globe office the lady said that this particular series of numbers is not working, would I like to buy another SIM. I smiled and said, yes, I'm going to buy a SMART SIM. I prefer to buy the load cards and I found with SMART that you might have to try to call in your load several times. You often get busy signals.

All this may sound trivial, but I wasted a lot of precious holiday time before I figured all these things out. X.

X

[QUOTE=X Man; 1177617]As CM mentioned, SMART had some problems last week.

And the reason I use SMART is because I had a problem with GLOBE a few years back. I lost several days because of that. At the globe office the lady said that this particular series of numbers is not working, would I like to buy another SIM. I smiled and said, yes, I'm going to buy a SMART SIM. I prefer to buy the load cards and I found with SMART that you might have to try to call in your load several times. You often get busy signals.

All this may sound trivial, but I wasted a lot of precious holiday time before I figured all these things out. X.

X[/QUOTE]X, I feel your pain. Until quite recently I had both Smart and Globe post-paid and have had similar problems with both; dropped calls, network downtime, a voice explaining that the number I just called "is not yet in service," despite the fact that I had connected to it an hour earlier, and so on. In terms of service, I don't find much, if any difference between the two companies. I dropped Smart because the service people are hopeless and indifferent, whereas with Globe, I've found quite the opposite to be true. The problem with both companies is, I think, the failure to invest in network technologies outside of Luzon, coupled with an ever growing subscriber base. So there is an increasing number of people trying to access inadequately sized networks.

I have four Globe accounts, and when I do have problems, the Globe people are invariably helpful and fast. This kind of service is so unusual in the Philippines, that I like to reward it with fidelity whenever I find it.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1177671]X, I feel your pain. Until quite recently I had both Smart and Globe post-paid and have had similar problems with both; dropped calls, network downtime, a voice explaining that the number I just called "is not yet in service," despite the fact that I had connected to it an hour earlier, and so on. In terms of service, I don't find much, if any difference between the two companies. I dropped Smart because the service people are hopeless and indifferent, whereas with Globe, I've found quite the opposite to be true. The problem with both companies is, I think, the failure to invest in network technologies outside of Luzon, coupled with an ever growing subscriber base. So there is an increasing number of people trying to access inadequately sized networks.

GE[/QUOTE]Its interesting you bring this up because the problem is going to grow like a tidal wave. I have noticed the "smartphone" revolution has come to the Phils. I have a friend who works for Verizon in the US (one of the 2 largest cell providers in the US) she told me that in the 3 yrs following the smartphone revolution their data load increased by 1700, no typo 1700%.

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1177166]The Smart network has been having some issues lately. I've gotten messages to that effect when trying to text in Manila over the last few days. That being said, you can never rule out the possibility that some girls just got a case of the cold puki when the time came to actually go through with their promises to meat with you. .[/QUOTE]One of the things that amuses / frustrates / maddens / baffles me (depending on how recently I've been laid) is the way that my Smart sim mysteriously and suddenly stops sending and receiving texts the moment I walk into an Ayala / Globe area such as an Ayala mall. Signal works, walk into mall, signal dead.

Of course the simple reason is that Ayala owns Globe, so why would they allow Smart signal equipment in their malls, but it just seems a tad petty. Equally baffling is the way both Smart and Glovbe claim to have "widest network, largest coverage" etc. They cat both be correct.

Although I don't live in the Philippines, I had a third date with a gal (former viking gal) in Cebu and there were two things I don't like about her. 1 she smokes (sorry GE, I know this is your favorite bad habit) 2 she sends way too many texts and also complains that I don't reply. Right in front of her I send her a text, which doesn't arrive. (I had a hint that there was a problem because I gave specific instructions about the meeting place in SM mall which seemed to be ignored). I turned my phone off and turned it back on, send the msg, and she got the msg. FK! THis seems to happen most often when I send multiple messages. Just got an email from the gal who insists my lack of reply was because I had multiple gals in my room. I did, but that wasn't why I didn't reply! These problems do waste time and especially spoil your value with regular gals you may be trying to meet.

I just realized that this is in "other areas" thread. Probably should be somewhere else to give guys phone info. I'm can't be bothered, but thanks GE. I do make it a point to give my biz to companies that give good service, so will buy a Globe SIM next time in PI. THe ones I have don't seem to work. I guess they have an expiration date.

X Man.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1177671]X, I feel your pain. Until quite recently I had both Smart and Globe post-paid and have had similar problems with both; dropped calls, network downtime, a voice explaining that the number I just called "is not yet in service," despite the fact that I had connected to it an hour earlier, and so on. In terms of service, I don't find much, if any difference between the two companies. I dropped Smart because the service people are hopeless and indifferent, whereas with Globe, I've found quite the opposite to be true. The problem with both companies is, I think, the failure to invest in network technologies outside of Luzon, coupled with an ever growing subscriber base. So there is an increasing number of people trying to access inadequately sized networks.

I have four Globe accounts, and when I do have problems, the Globe people are invariably helpful and fast. This kind of service is so unusual in the Philippines, that I like to reward it with fidelity whenever I find it.

GE[/QUOTE]

So you were eating her out and there was blood. Then you put a condom on to screw her? Something smells fishy here.

[QUOTE=X Man; 1181299]I do make it a point to give my biz to companies that give good service, so will buy a Globe SIM next time in PI. THe ones I have don't seem to work. I guess they have an expiration date.

X Man.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately most poor and available girls sit on Smart or Sun down in Mindano it seems, so I found that the would not reply to my Globe SIM. Eventually I got a Smart and after not using my Globe during one trip, it died, just like yours seem to have done.

B

[QUOTE=Slippery;1181388]So you were eating her out and there was blood. Then you put a condom on to screw her? Something smells fishy here.[/QUOTE]Time for you to go back to sex ed class. :) When a woman gets sexually excited her pussy will puff up as more blood is pumped to the area. Just like a man's cock getting erect.

Slim

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi;1181184]However, after some time I was finally able to make a decision by choosing a petite young Filipina named Liezle. I took her out of the disco and got her something to eat at the barbecue. I wanted to make sure that she was satiated with a hearty meal of food and drink before having sex with her. After a meal at the barbecue we headed to the disco- the one without women for pay-for-play. I liked to make the experience more GFE. After a brief stint at the disco we headed back to the Mermaid Resort. I politely offered her snacks from the mini-bar, of which she graciously accepted. After a brief chat in which I asked her questions about herself as well as telling her about myself I told her I was going to take a shower. I stripped down in front of her, so as to augment her arousal with my physicality before I actually got down to touching her. Once we were both showered and laying on the bed I began to go to work on her. I always show the initiative and take the helm by first stimulating the woman. I began to kiss her ear lobes, the back of her neck, her face and light succulent kisses to her lips, finalized with deep French kissing. I then proceeded to move my mouth down to her breasts, lavishing oral attention on her nipples. I spent a good ten minutes on her breasts and then proceeded to kiss her stomach and the inside of her thighs, ever so slowly drawing my tongue closer to her labia. After she could no longer bare the sexual tension I began to lavish oral attention on her clitoris, eventually sucking on it hard. She began to moan and then I stuck my tongue deep inside her vagina, while pushing her legs up in the air and bending her supple spine until her asshole was exposed. Not hesitating one wee bit I stuck my tongue deep inside her asshole, pushing it in as deep as it would go with machine like rapidity. Her pussy was engorged with blood and dripping fluids, of which I ravenously lapped up after taking a brief reprieve from licking her asshole. Once I felt both her ass and pussy were sufficiently stimulated I motioned for her to start sucking my dick, of which she didn't hesitate for a moment to imbibe with extreme relish. Once I was nice and hard I put on a condom and inserted my cock into her pussy from behind. She was lean, much more so than the girls I banged in the Dominican Republic. I have never banged girls this lean before in my life. I was pulling her in towards my loins while at the same time I thrust my cock into her pussy vigorously. After banging her doggy style I then flipped her on her back and banged her missionary style. She was beautiful and I took liberty of kissing her on the lips while banging her from the missionary position. I was still hard and did not have to pull the condom off to lube my cock to get it hard again, usually by licking her pussy or asshole. After I had pounded her missionary style and had her moaning and dying to be fucked even harder I flipped her over and put her on top of my cock and had her fuck me cowgirl style, which she did rapidly. As she got more aroused she just started riding me harder and harder. She just loved it, banging me ever harder until my cock was getting bent back. Finally, she got so exhausted that she could no longer continue. She was finished, having had several orgasms.[/QUOTE]Seems like you are more interested in ass licking. I would suggest you invest in some solutions to clean out the asshole before you indulge. There are many enema solutions available. This is what adult film actresses use.

It will help your health also.

By transferring your tongue between asshole and vagina, you will be causing infection.

By introducing germs.

[QUOTE=X Man;1181299]I do make it a point to give my biz to companies that give good service, so will buy a Globe SIM next time in PI. THe ones I have don't seem to work. I guess they have an expiration date. X Man.[/QUOTE]I think with smart, if the card is not used for 90 days they cut it off.

[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1181712]I think with smart, if the card is not used for 90 days they cut it off.[/QUOTE]The official rule is 120 days without load, however I have seen multiple examples that the reality is 1 year.

I met a few gals last trip who have dual sim. How much do those phones cost? I only spend 20-30 days in Phil. A year, so quite happy to rely on the 1000 peso Nokio I bought about two years ago. It does the job. Usually. But your post is important. A regular gal may not be able to respond quickly if she is on another system. And for the poorest gals, I've learned it's nice to figure out the pasaload or whatever system. X.

[QUOTE=Barba; 1181545]Unfortunately most poor and available girls sit on Smart or Sun down in Mindano it seems, so I found that the would not reply to my Globe SIM. Eventually I got a Smart and after not using my Globe during one trip, it died, just like yours seem to have done.

B[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man;1182123]I met a few gals last trip who have dual sim. How much do those phones cost?[/QUOTE]I had two.

One Samsung D880 I bought late 2008 for some 150 € on Ebay and one Philippino crap brand that was even more useless than the Samsung. There are many Chinese dual SIM phones on eBay if your not worried about usability.

I'd rather carry one Android that I can surf on and one small&simple for my secondary SIM. And one "home phone", but I rarely bring that one.

Barba

[QUOTE=X Man;1182123]I met a few gals last trip who have dual sim. How much do those phones cost? I only spend 20-30 days in Phil. A year, so quite happy to rely on the 1000 peso Nokio I bought about two years ago. It does the job. Usually. But your post is important. A regular gal may not be able to respond quickly if she is on another system. And for the poorest gals, I've learned it's nice to figure out the pasaload or whatever system. X.[/QUOTE]Chinese 1300 I paid in e mull

Hello, Bro:.

First time in PI and first time in*

Palawan after years of mongering.

All over Asia. I come there with.

My thai Tiger GF to dive and.

Relax from Bangkok but I would.

Like to know (I read all the forum,

Did my homework.

And did the research of course) *

If there are some massage.

Parlours (with HJ BJ and may.

Be FS) around Puerto Princessa.

(for HJ BJ service it's around 500 pesos?

And for FS one pop?) and around.

El Nido too as I won't be able to.

Play by night or shop a girl in.

Manila as I would do if I was coming.

Alone. I know my chances are low.

And my only hopes are in the*Forum, *

Thank you guys.

Flo69. Thanks for the excellent research on the Boracay P4P scene. Here's my 2 cents worth.

Boracay is only a good place for a family holiday, a holiday with your AC takeout or for diving. The mongering scene is dreadful. Cocomangas Shooters Bar is really the only pickup joint of note and it has about 20-25 freelancers in there every night. Most are so ugly, that by comparison, the creatures at MBC seem positively beautiful! The fee in Boracay is around 2000 pesos, long or short time negotiable. Most will complain and renege on deals already discussed. No do blow job, or the usual 'me shy' routine for DATY. The Koreans and Taiwanese are the biggest tourist groups in Boracay, so may be the girls can get away with absolute shit service. All hotels in Boracay are girl friendly, but the hotel guard will withold her ID until you have finished the job. Save your money for AC.

[QUOTE=Engine Driver; 1185281]Flo69. Thanks for the excellent research on the Boracay P4P scene. Here's my 2 cents worth.

Boracay is only a good place for a family holiday, a holiday with your AC takeout or for diving. .[/QUOTE]ED.

Hate to disagree with you but the diving in Boracay is terrible! Moalboal (Cebu) and Alona Beach (Bohol) are much better.

[QUOTE=Iron Duke; 1185319]ED.

Hate to disagree with you but the diving in Boracay is terrible! Moalboal (Cebu) and Alona Beach (Bohol) are much better.[/QUOTE]Iron Duke,

I'm not saying that diving in Boracay is fantastic. Its just that you wouldn't go to Boracay for the P4P scene alone and the diving provides some pleasant diversion at an otherwise boring place. Agree that there are far superior places in the PI for diving.

[QUOTE=X Man;1182123]I met a few gals last trip who have dual sim. How much do those phones cost? I only spend 20-30 days in Phil. A year, so quite happy to rely on the 1000 peso Nokio I bought about two years ago. It does the job. Usually. But your post is important. A regular gal may not be able to respond quickly if she is on another system. And for the poorest gals, I've learned it's nice to figure out the pasaload or whatever system. X.[/QUOTE]X Man,

You can find the unlocked dual sim GSM phones in the US on the TigerDirect or Geeks dot com sites at times. The prices vary so much that I would not want to post a set value in this message.

HW

Hi All:

- Pink Pantha is renovated and renamed Coco Lips. New owner. At first I heard rumors it was the original Australian owner who withdrew the lease and took control. Then I heard it was a korean new lease holder for the venue.

- Plenty of young ladies, friendly. They are happy to give you some attention after enticing them to approach with a smile or gesture, but tire of your flirtations if you are not prepared to buy an LD and will politely leave and rejoin their friends usually sitting in a large group on the opposite side of the room.

- It is the low (wet / monsoon / typhoon) season now, so fewer tourists, but still plenty of Koreans, more than last low season. Someone said that there is a new English school open in Puerto Galera, which may explain the uptrend of Koreans even in the wet season. And we all know the Koreans get special treatment in the bars especially with many girls exclusively reserved for the Koreans no matter how much a white guy may offer the mamasan. This is especially the case in the Korean owned bars. Even if you want to see the cute young girls, go early to the bar otherwise by 8pm, they have left with their 'guests'. .

- Hunting girls (freelances) are increasingly less common in Sabang. My last report suggested Broadway front bar (backbar is the girly bar) , and Big Apple. However, as a result of 'policing' and 'rules' by new town 'captain' (town mayor, who is also bar owner) , the freelances have been told they are not welcome. Of those who I know live here and ply their hunting trade, they must be seen to be associated with a male when out at night, otherwise they will get 'policed' by the mayor's patrolling watchmen.

I can speculate that the rationale is this:

A. The local mayor wants to more business for his bar.

Be. The other bar owners have lobbied (paid a gift) for this policy to reduce the leakage from their own girly bar business.

And why can this level of control and policing happen here? Because it is a small community / less bar competition / only a few powerful families / entities and can be more controlled than a larger semi-urban situation.

- Another observation. Up until recently it was not uncommon for a girl in the bar to be open minded to a little moonlighting during the day for some extra personal pocket money. But lately I think the bars have started to more forcefully enforce the existing rule about this practice. One of the girls told me that if they are caught or seen during the day visiting or sharing too much time with someone, then they face a 2K fine. I know one of the bars forbid the girls to leave their quarters during the day.

In summary, Sabang is still a worthwhile destination for a tourist, a few days or a week or two. Beer in the bars is way cheaper then AC. 50-70P and water is 50P.

Accommodation in low season can be found for 500P, give or take. Try Renaldo's or Sonny's.

Thur Afternoon summary:

Got a text from a girl who I have know for about 3 weeks. Invited her to my room a few times for an afternoon thingy. But she never responded. The first encounter / meeting 3 weeks prior was an invite to swim in the pool. All good, but after the swim she wanted 2000 to stay longer. I explained my budget was 500P. She politely rejected my offer.

The morning she sends me the text and says she is visiting my room. Arrives with 2 other friends, both cute. The have come expecting food, primarily because I had not stocked up on food lately. I did not oblige but offered ST alternative. They wanted a foursome, each offered a different service: BJ from one, pussy from another, anal from another. But what might be the budget? I did not ask. Heheheh. But I might consider for another occasional. And I did interview them to find out who might be the anal participant. Hehehe Plus one of the cutties is in need of a cell phone, so I offered to help her. She wants to visit me tomorrow to discuss the terms. Hehehe.

The one that I know from before, wanted to learn facebook, so there was my bargain chip. I then offered to teach her / set up account and in return, she gives me the ST for 500P. She agrees and BTW she was the anal contender (which I finger tested during the subsequent ST event, hehehe). So her price has become flexible since I first met here when she was asking 2K. Some times patience is required.

So now there is a 'happy ending' to this story.

Till next time.

Some info shortly from El Nido (Palawan) , was there in July 2011.

In El Nido you can find one disco called Asylum which is everyday full of local people and some western. About 20 girls working in the bar (serving drinks and chatting with customers) , you can barfine anyone of them and the price is usually 2000 peso / night (1500 girl / 500 bar). Some girls might ask more. 2500-3000 peso but you can discuss the price. Asylum is open 8pm. 2am, first couple of hours karaoke and then disco. It's more like a normal disco, not gogo place but yeah, you can barfine the bar girls. Couple of stunning girls working there.

It's beginning to look like the girl I had planned to take to Boracay in October is going to crap out. Not sure what's going on, but she has disappeared. And she's counting on me for college tuition. I suppose I should be worried, and I am a little, but my main problem now is a prepaid airfare and hotel reservation in Boracay.

There hasn't been a report for some time here. Anyone got up-to-date information on the scene on Boracay? What are my chances of finding some professional assistance for my problem? I saw a couple of references to a bar called Cocomangos (or something like that) where FL were available two years ago. I know the main advice is to bring your own, and I'm working on that, but just in case. Any suggestions?

[QUOTE=Titmouse; 1195522]It's beginning to look like the girl I had planned to take to Boracay in October is going to crap out. Not sure what's going on, but she has disappeared. And she's counting on me for college tuition. I suppose I should be worried, and I am a little, but my main problem now is a prepaid airfare and hotel reservation in Boracay.

There hasn't been a report for some time here. Anyone got up-to-date information on the scene on Boracay? What are my chances of finding some professional assistance for my problem? I saw a couple of references to a bar called Cocomangos (or something like that) where FL were available two years ago. I know the main advice is to bring your own, and I'm working on that, but just in case. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]On both of my last trips to Boracay I took a couple of girls from Cebu so wasn't on the lookout. My impression was that there were a few girls who were potentially available, however they were mixing in with the crowds so it wasn't especially obvious who was and who wasn't available. As a rule of thumb limited supply (for most girls its too expensive a place to hang out) and high demand from guys who have gone there without a partner leads to high prices and indifferent quality. If you can sort out your existing date or find another (should be an easy sell, the issue is to be comfortable re compatibility.) , it would be much better.

[QUOTE=Messenger78; 1192516]Some info shortly from El Nido (Palawan) , was there in July 2011.

In El Nido you can find one disco called Asylum which is everyday full of local people and some western. About 20 girls working in the bar (serving drinks and chatting with customers) , you can barfine anyone of them and the price is usually 2000 peso / night (1500 girl / 500 bar). Some girls might ask more. 2500-3000 peso but you can discuss the price. Asylum is open 8pm. 2am, first couple of hours karaoke and then disco. It's more like a normal disco, not gogo place but yeah, you can barfine the bar girls. Couple of stunning girls working there.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info on El Nido. I'm going back to Palawan soon.

[QUOTE=Titmouse; 1195522]It's beginning to look like the girl I had planned to take to Boracay in October is going to crap out. Not sure what's going on, but she has disappeared. And she's counting on me for college tuition. I suppose I should be worried, and I am a little, but my main problem now is a prepaid airfare and hotel reservation in Boracay.

There hasn't been a report for some time here. Anyone got up-to-date information on the scene on Boracay? What are my chances of finding some professional assistance for my problem? I saw a couple of references to a bar called Cocomangos (or something like that) where FL were available two years ago. I know the main advice is to bring your own, and I'm working on that, but just in case. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]You are correct, Cocomangoes. Really the only place. Any trike driver can take you there.

[QUOTE=Titmouse; 1195522]It's beginning to look like the girl I had planned to take to Boracay in October is going to crap out. Not sure what's going on, but she has disappeared. And she's counting on me for college tuition. I suppose I should be worried, and I am a little, but my main problem now is a prepaid airfare and hotel reservation in Boracay.

There hasn't been a report for some time here. Anyone got up-to-date information on the scene on Boracay? What are my chances of finding some professional assistance for my problem? I saw a couple of references to a bar called Cocomangos (or something like that) where FL were available two years ago. I know the main advice is to bring your own, and I'm working on that, but just in case. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]I assume you are connecting from somewhere else in PI, probably Manila, right? If so, you can just stop by EDSA or MBC and find someone to accompany you with very little notice. How long is your trip?

[QUOTE=Titmouse; 1195522]It's beginning to look like the girl I had planned to take to Boracay in October is going to crap out. Not sure what's going on, but she has disappeared. And she's counting on me for college tuition. I suppose I should be worried, and I am a little, but my main problem now is a prepaid airfare and hotel reservation in Boracay.

There hasn't been a report for some time here. Anyone got up-to-date information on the scene on Boracay? What are my chances of finding some professional assistance for my problem? I saw a couple of references to a bar called Cocomangos (or something like that) where FL were available two years ago. I know the main advice is to bring your own, and I'm working on that, but just in case. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]Lots of these tickets are non-refundable. You can change the ticket to another person name and it might cost you some money to do it. Make sure you show them documents and prove that you paid for the ticket.

You can meet many girls in Manila and make a deal with them. Better make a deal with MBC girl. EDSA girls will definitely ask you to pay barfine for every day unless you can convince otherwise. They do not want to loose their only source of income. MBC girls may not be totally GFE as you envisioned going to Boracay with a normal girl. All mongers should never make plans for a romantic trip without meeting the girl, spending time with her etc.

Only after the chemistry is there plan on these trips. There is nothing worse than stuck with a non-co-operative companion in a romantic setting.

I think you should troll DIA for a quick fix. You never know.

DIA is one option. Been there done that.

I can suggest all kinds of alternatives for TitMouse, but a paid site could also be an option if you want a chance for better quality. Cherry blossom or Filipina heart?

My personal advice would be to skip Borocay. I've been there too, done that, probably won't go back.

X.

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1196562]SNIP:

I think you should troll DIA for a quick fix. You never know.[/QUOTE]

Been playing cat and mouse (ok, more like pussy and rat) with a DIA cutie for a while now who is living in Bacolod City. Looks like short cheap flights from Manila and google maps shows a few "beach resorts" there, but that could mean anything from a 5 star hotel on a pristine beach to a folding chair next to a sewer outlet. Anybody been there recently? Is it worth the trip? For more than the girl I mean, because otherwise I'll just tell her to be in Manila when I arrive if she wants to see me.

Yes, I read KingKong's report and others, so no need to repeat what was stated here [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1012-Other-Areas&p=980908&highlight=Bacolod#post980908[/url]. Mostly I am trying to determine if it is a city worth visiting for non-mongering activities, as I would be with one girl for 2 nights or so (will tack a mongering location on either before or after).

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1196562]All mongers should never make plans for a romantic trip without meeting the girl, spending time with her etc.

Only after the chemistry is there plan on these trips. There is nothing worse than stuck with a non-co-operative companion in a romantic setting.[/QUOTE]Excellent advice. A few years ago I plucked a diminutive lady out of LA Cafe who reported recently returning from Boracay. The guy had wanted to spend time swimming at the beach and getting out and about. She wasn't interested. Soon she was bored just hanging out in the cabin or hotel room and begged to fly back early. He paid extra to change her ticket and stayed a couple more days without her. She'd been bright and bubbly at the bar when she was looking to score a customer, but after spending an hour with her alone I knew she was not somebody I would have wanted to take to Boracay. Do your homework before heading off to the romantic getaway.

Never been there, but have considered it a few times. If interested in architecture, I believe there are some old mansion / museums in Silay, not far to the north.

The Bacolod / Silay airport is fairly new and has flights to Cebu City.

Sipilay to the south seems to be the place with best beaches on that side of the island. Of course Dumaguete and Apo Island are worth a visit on the opposite side (Negros Oriental). If you aren't into roughing it on the buses or van transports, talk to the taxi driver from the airport. Get his number.

Only two days? And your point of entry and exit is Manila? How long is the total trip? I think you'll get better information if you give us more information. Also, Thorn Tree of Lonely planet is good for detailed travel information about obscure places. X.

[QUOTE=Irony Monger; 1196919]Been playing cat and mouse (ok, more like pussy and rat) with a DIA cutie for a while now who is living in Bacolod City. Looks like short cheap flights from Manila and google maps shows a few "beach resorts" there, but that could mean anything from a 5 star hotel on a pristine beach to a folding chair next to a sewer outlet. Anybody been there recently? Is it worth the trip? For more than the girl I mean, because otherwise I'll just tell her to be in Manila when I arrive if she wants to see me.

Yes, I read KingKong's report and others, so no need to repeat what was stated here.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1012-Other-Areas&p=980908&highlight=Bacolod#post980908[/url]

Mostly I am trying to determine if it is a city worth visiting for non-mongering activities, as I would be with one girl for 2 nights or so (will tack a mongering location on either before or after).[/QUOTE]

A slim 23 yr college girl I know in Puerto Princesa, Palawan I know is in urgent need of funds. She's funny, slim, quite tall, trustworthy and rather beautiful. She has had a baby but very few stretch marks. Ideally she needs someone who is coming to Palawan and looking for a paid companion / guide / gf. She is very open minded and bisexual so very happy with FFM threesomes (though it's not so easy to find another willing girl in Puerto). She has a laptop so can also discuss cam shows if you are not going to palwan in near future but needs to be confident that you will actually pay up. (She is very trustworthy so if you do pay up you will certainly get your show.)

PM me if interested

[QUOTE=X Man; 1197362]Never been there, but have considered it a few times. If interested in architecture, I believe there are some old mansion / museums in Silay, not far to the north.

The Bacolod / Silay airport is fairly new and has flights to Cebu City.

Sipilay to the south seems to be the place with best beaches on that side of the island. Of course Dumaguete and Apo Island are worth a visit on the opposite side (Negros Oriental). If you aren't into roughing it on the buses or van transports, talk to the taxi driver from the airport. Get his number.

Only two days? And your point of entry and exit is Manila? How long is the total trip? I think you'll get better information if you give us more information. Also, Thorn Tree of Lonely planet is good for detailed travel information about obscure places. X.[/QUOTE]Thanks X, very helpful. I was only planning 2 days because if I don't hit it off with the girl in person I don't want to be stuck there. Yes, entry / exit would be Manila.

Going to be in the Legazpi City area at the beginning of November. Haven't found any info about the area and was wondering if anyone has had any experience in this area.

If the Pink Panther has changed hands in Sabang does anyone know if Alf is still around who ran it? A bit of a shame if Koreans have taken it over, a near monopoly situation is not good as they run many if the other bars too.

I used to scold people for this kind of empty post, but it just makes me more enemies. So, I will bend over backwards. The poster is asking about a city just to the south of the very beautiful Mayon Mtn, or Volcano. I have a few pictures of this mountain taken way back in 1980 that were published. And the Japanese need to back off when bragging about their UNIQUE cone shaped mtn. Fuji doens't even smoke!

As for "experience in this area" I once had a tribe of head hunters chase me up and down the mountain. I was pretty quick on my feet in those days and despite being chased to death I managed to shag about half of the local young gals, and some of their mothers too. Of course that was in 1946, so things have changed since then.

[QUOTE=Tmnb26;1200602]Going to be in the Legazpi City area at the beginning of November. Haven't found any info about the area and was wondering if anyone has had any experience in this area.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man; 1201116]I used to scold people for this kind of empty post, but it just makes me more enemies. So, I will bend over backwards. The poster is asking about a city just to the south of the very beautiful Mayon Mtn, or Volcano. I have a few pictures of this mountain taken way back in 1980 that were published. And the Japanese need to back off when bragging about their UNIQUE cone shaped mtn. Fuji doens't even smoke!

As for "experience in this area" I once had a tribe of head hunters chase me up and down the mountain. I was pretty quick on my feet in those days and despite being chased to death I managed to shag about half of the local young gals, and some of their mothers too. Of course that was in 1946, so things have changed since then.[/QUOTE]Well thank you for your "experience in this area!" I will have to stay away from the tribes. I was unaware when I posted that I was being so obtuse. What I should have asked was, since I have read many stories of triumph in different areas of the country, such as Manila and Cebu, and I have been unlucky to find any post about other monger's conquest in the little sleepy town of Legazpi City, and was wondering if there was any action to be found there? I would also like to know Is there an area such as the EDSA Entertainment Complex in this town?

I also would like to thank you, X Man, for the geography lesson. The main purpose of my trip is to see Mt Mayon up close and see for myself the wonders it holds. But when I am not brushing up on my geography and history, I like to participate in a little adventure I believe everyone who uses this site enjoys. So with that said, anyone else's experiences in this area would be greatly welcomed!

A search of Legaspi, nightlife brings up some info about bars and even a utube video of some live music. I'm at the office so not inclined to search too deeply for the good stuff.

Anyone had any mongering experience here. Tried a search but it keeps directing me back to "other places" thread.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by X Man.

I used to scold people for this kind of empty post, but it just makes me more enemies. So, I will bend over backwards. The poster is asking about a city just to the south of the very beautiful Mayon Mtn, or Volcano. I have a few pictures of this mountain taken way back in 1980 that were published. And the Japanese need to back off when bragging about their UNIQUE cone shaped mtn. Fuji doens't even smoke!

As for "experience in this area" I once had a tribe of head hunters chase me up and down the mountain. I was pretty quick on my feet in those days and despite being chased to death I managed to shag about half of the local young gals, and some of their mothers too. Of course that was in 1946, so things have changed since then.

Your my hero. To keep mom happy is hard. Grandpa said he only got two girls and was fightting the head hunters. I asked where the rest of the Sea Bees were. He said his wing man was busy. Now I know. Grandpa died before he got to those good storys. He did have two necklesses of gold teeth and some storys about thim teeth and a few flags with holes in them. X, grandpa is waiting for you with a deck of cards and some dewberry wine. You ole fart.

Wow. If I had to guess this persons occupation I believe I would nail it with "low level bureaucrat."

[QUOTE=Redman69; 1201488]Originally Posted by X Man.

I used to scold people for this kind of empty post, but it just makes me more enemies. So, I will bend over backwards. The poster is asking about a city just to the south of the very beautiful Mayon Mtn, or Volcano. I have a few pictures of this mountain taken way back in 1980 that were published. And the Japanese need to back off when bragging about their UNIQUE cone shaped mtn. Fuji doens't even smoke!

As for "experience in this area" I once had a tribe of head hunters chase me up and down the mountain. I was pretty quick on my feet in those days and despite being chased to death I managed to shag about half of the local young gals, and some of their mothers too. Of course that was in 1946, so things have changed since then.

Your my hero. To keep mom happy is hard. Grandpa said he only got two girls and was fightting the head hunters. I asked where the rest of the Sea Bees were. He said his wing man was busy. Now I know. Grandpa died before he got to those good storys. He did have two necklesses of gold teeth and some storys about thim teeth and a few flags with holes in them. X, grandpa is waiting for you with a deck of cards and some dewberry wine. You ole fart.[/QUOTE]

Garndpa Dads side Operating engineer. Sea Bee.

Grandpa Moms side, Bum died on the street as a drunk.

Dad, Teamster, Steamfitter, Paint Contractor. Oh, yea at 15 a able seaman north atlantic.

As stated above. I am a friend of Bill Wilson, and a proud union electrician.

Yea you could say bureaucrat, Mom worked state department durring WW-2, Grandpa Sea Bee Pacific taken from Navy Yard DC. Dad able seaman Merchent Fleet. And I did 7 years working for the state. .90 cent a day. My clan only workes for the government when God says we got too.

[QUOTE=Henryv;1201455]Anyone had any mongering experience here. Tried a search but it keeps directing me back to "other places" thread.[/QUOTE]There is a trick where you have to select "show reports" instead of "show threads". Also you could try to search for "cdo" which most people insist on using to refer to Cagayan de Oro city, but I do not belive 3 letters are searchable.

Considerate posters might spell out and then abbreviate (per Chicago Manual of Style) as in: "I was in Cagayan de Oro (CDO) last week."

I believe I have always done this, so you can enjoy my posts and miss the others, haha!

[QUOTE=Irony Monger; 1196919]Been playing cat and mouse (ok, more like pussy and rat) with a DIA cutie for a while now who is living in Bacolod City. Looks like short cheap flights from Manila and google maps shows a few "beach resorts" there, but that could mean anything from a 5 star hotel on a pristine beach to a folding chair next to a sewer outlet. Anybody been there recently? Is it worth the trip? For more than the girl I mean, because otherwise I'll just tell her to be in Manila when I arrive if she wants to see me.

Mostly I am trying to determine if it is a city worth visiting for non-mongering activities, as I would be with one girl for 2 nights or so (will tack a mongering location on either before or after).[/QUOTE]I have been to Bacolod City many times, my last visit was in April and I can provide you with an update.

If you are visiting Bacolod "For more than the girl" as you put it I would think twice. Bacolod is a smallish city and there is nothing to do there with the exception of visiting the SM mall close to the water or the usual Gaisano and Robinsons malls.

You could head to Lacson Street and walk around the park in front of the Museum and and feed the fresh water talapia. Vendors sell puffed rice in various colors for a few pesos. Many locals can be seen feeding the thousands of fish that are fattened up and netted on a regular basis to provide food for inmates in the Negros Jail. There is usually music playing in the park and sometimes you can catch the unusual and funny dance preformance of a LB that entertains the crowd in a ragged pink dress for a few pesos in tips. Think Vice Ganda mixed with Michael Jackson and add in a splash of Bigfoot and you get where this is going.

Bacolod does not have white sand beaches, and the closest will be a 3hr hired car drive from the city. So do not go there if you want nice beaches or resorts. I have stayed at Palmas Del mar, a resort very close to the center of Bacolod and it's located on the water. No beach but it does have a nice pool. A very basic place with low-flow shower heads so low-flow you will have to jump in the pool to properly rinse the leftover shampoo. The hotel food sucked and the hotel does not provide anything but a small travel sized bar of soap and no bottled water in the rooms.

As for hotels in Bacolod city I usually stay at L' Fisher on Lacson street. It is run-down and old by western standards and the price is expensive for a city in the Province but the location is good. The new addition of the roof-top pool is a plus and the bistro pool side serves good food with some excellent pizza baked in a wood fired oven on the roof top deck.

Bacolod does not have it's own airport, as the old Bacolod airport closed many years ago when the new one opened out in Silay. When you arrive at the airport there are no taxis waiting to pick you up. You will have to negaotiate with locals who use there SUV or cars as underground taxis. The going rate is 500p to the first part of Bacolod, and 600-700p for destinations on the other side of Bacolod. Many drivers will start at 1000p, so up to you how much you want to pay. You can walk outside the gate and find a V-hire that will take you into Bacolod and locals pay around 100p per person but if you have luggage you might have to pay double and most V-Hires will not leave until all 13 places are full. If you arrive in the rain prices will be increased.

Taxis from Bacolod are only allowed to drop off departing passengers and usually are never allowed to pick anyone up. This is so the local officials and OC all get there cut of your pesos. Just a tip but usually the driver will make small talk and ask you all sorts of seemingly harmless questions. The answers you provide can come back to bite you. IMHO give as little info as possible while still seeming like this is not your first time in Bacolod. When you exit the terminal you will be noticed right away and many people will track you and remember you during your stay. Bacolod might seem like a big enough city but it is a small place to the locals and you can avoid alot of trouble by keeping a low profile.

There are 15-20 gogo bars located in what is known locally as the "Goldenfields" area. You can barfine and take out but go early as all the best get picked quickly. These are bars for locals and when the few foreigners come in you will often not be viewed as a prize catch, but possibly pissing off her local clients who sit and buy lots and lots of LD's. Never barfined in Bacolod so can't comment on the service.

One word on the girls that can be found in Bacolod is, caution. From my personal experince most girls from Bacolod will say and agree to almost anything in chat before you meet. Most are just thrilled a foreigner will come to visit them they will tell you want you want to hear to get you to show up. Once you are there they will change there story and tell you they never agreed to go with you to the hotel. Most will just use the occasion to brag to friends and family and show off without any real intention to go to your hotel. Sure there are exceptions and again YMMV but I mention this just as a word of caution. Also I have found alot of scams originating from Bacolod girls, with the majority very skilled in playing mind games and I would not trust any of them as far as I can throw a Jollibee Yum burger. Once again YMMV.

Almost the whole month of October there will be Masskara festivities ongoing in Bacolod and the week of the major parades hotels will be fully booked and traffic will be one massive gridlock with many streets around the downtown area closed. Avoid Bacolod at this time if this is your first trip as all the girls you have lined up to meet will disappear or be busy with friends or family at Masskara and will flake on you.

Be aware that there is more than one place called Cagayan. I know of two, Cagayan valley at the northern part of Luzon and CDO in the NE part of Mindanao.

Others have guessed that you mean CDO, a nice city with some hanky panky, but if you are pulling a place name off of a gal's DIA profile, you may be on the opposite side of the country.

Info about CDO might also be found in the Davao thread or Dragon Slayer's private section. X.

[QUOTE=Henryv; 1201455]Anyone had any mongering experience here. Tried a search but it keeps directing me back to "other places" thread.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for a substantive response.

[QUOTE=Jambo; 1201840]There is a trick where you have to select "show reports" instead of "show threads". Also you could try to search for "cdo" which most people insist on using to refer to Cagayan de Oro city, but I do not belive 3 letters are searchable.

Considerate posters might spell out and then abbreviate (per Chicago Manual of Style) as in: "I was in Cagayan de Oro (CDO) last week."

I believe I have always done this, so you can enjoy my posts and miss the others, haha![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Henryv; 1201455]Anyone had any mongering experience here. Tried a search but it keeps directing me back to "other places" thread.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]I guess you realize that the northern-most province in Luzon is called Cagayan (the area often referred to as Cagayan Valley). People there are Ilokanos/Ilokanas. They have a reputation in the Phils of being good money managers (aka kuripot).

This province is not to be confused with the CITY of Cagayan de Oro (aka CdO) and rarely but sometimes just called Cagayan which is the major city in Region 10, Misamis Oriental, on the northern coastline of Mindanao.
If you mean CdO, scroll through back post on this thread and refer to posts here by either GoodEnough or Barba. Dragon Slayer has a fair bit to say about CdO on his thread too.

For mongering, there are lots of bars in CdO, but if you mean Cagayan Valley, you will be a bit disappointed with the local bars in the capital Tuguegarao and the small local bars in every small town throughout.

Again, thank you and X-Man, gives me hope for this board.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1201989]I guess you realize that the northern-most province in Luzon is called Cagayan (the area often referred to as Cagayan Valley). People there are Ilokanos / Ilokanas. They have a reputation in the Phils of being good money managers (aka kuripot).

This province is not to be confused with the CITY of Cagayan de Oro (aka CdO) and rarely but sometimes just called Cagayan which is the major city in Region 10, Misamis Oriental, on the northern coastline of Mindanao.

If you mean CdO, scroll through back post on this thread and refer to posts here by either GoodEnough or Barba. Dragon Slayer has a fair bit to say about CdO on his thread too.

For mongering, there are lots of bars in CdO, but if you mean Cagayan Valley, you will be a bit disappointed with the local bars in the capital Tuguegarao and the small local bars in every small town throughout.[/QUOTE]

Anybody have any general information about Naval, Biliran in the context of bars, restaurants, things to do? Given its size, I'm sure the female scene is quite limited but I will be closely guarded anyway so the girl scene isn't that important. Decent food and a safe bar are important. Are there even any expats in the area?

Slippery, you are likely to be out of luck when it comes to bars and restaurants in Naval. I was there for a couple of days, two years ago.

Only half way decent restaurants are located a few klicks out of town in two resorts. It's a small town with very few foreigners in evidence.

A couple of bars frequented by locals only. Naval is typical of isolated, small town Philippines. We don't know the rules and don't know the

Local power structure. I would suggest keeping a low profile and watch your back if you are intent on sampling the night life there.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1201862]I have been to Bacolod City many times, my last visit was in April and I can provide you with an update.

If you are visiting Bacolod "For more than the girl" as you put it I would think twice. Bacolod is a smallish city and there is nothing to do there with the exception of visiting the SM mall close to the water or the usual Gaisano and Robinsons malls.

You could head to Lacson Street and walk around the park in front of the Museum and and feed the fresh water talapia. Vendors sell puffed rice in various colors for a few pesos. Many locals can be seen feeding the thousands of fish that are fattened up and netted on a regular basis to provide food for inmates in the Negros Jail. There is usually music playing in the park and sometimes you can catch the unusual and funny dance preformance of a LB that entertains the crowd in a ragged pink dress for a few pesos in tips. Think Vice Ganda mixed with Michael Jackson and add in a splash of Bigfoot and you get where this is going.

Bacolod does not have white sand beaches, and the closest will be a 3hr hired car drive from the city. So do not go there if you want nice beaches or resorts. I have stayed at Palmas Del mar, a resort very close to the center of Bacolod and it's located on the water. No beach but it does have a nice pool. A very basic place with low-flow shower heads so low-flow you will have to jump in the pool to properly rinse the leftover shampoo. The hotel food sucked and the hotel does not provide anything but a small travel sized bar of soap and no bottled water in the rooms.

As for hotels in Bacolod city I usually stay at L' Fisher on Lacson street. It is run-down and old by western standards and the price is expensive for a city in the Province but the location is good. The new addition of the roof-top pool is a plus and the bistro pool side serves good food with some excellent pizza baked in a wood fired oven on the roof top deck.

Bacolod does not have it's own airport, as the old Bacolod airport closed many years ago when the new one opened out in Silay. When you arrive at the airport there are no taxis waiting to pick you up. You will have to negaotiate with locals who use there SUV or cars as underground taxis. The going rate is 500p to the first part of Bacolod, and 600-700p for destinations on the other side of Bacolod. Many drivers will start at 1000p, so up to you how much you want to pay. You can walk outside the gate and find a V-hire that will take you into Bacolod and locals pay around 100p per person but if you have luggage you might have to pay double and most V-Hires will not leave until all 13 places are full. If you arrive in the rain prices will be increased.

Taxis from Bacolod are only allowed to drop off departing passengers and usually are never allowed to pick anyone up. This is so the local officials and OC all get there cut of your pesos. Just a tip but usually the driver will make small talk and ask you all sorts of seemingly harmless questions. The answers you provide can come back to bite you. IMHO give as little info as possible while still seeming like this is not your first time in Bacolod. When you exit the terminal you will be noticed right away and many people will track you and remember you during your stay. Bacolod might seem like a big enough city but it is a small place to the locals and you can avoid alot of trouble by keeping a low profile.

There are 15-20 gogo bars located in what is known locally as the "Goldenfields" area. You can barfine and take out but go early as all the best get picked quickly. These are bars for locals and when the few foreigners come in you will often not be viewed as a prize catch, but possibly pissing off her local clients who sit and buy lots and lots of LD's. Never barfined in Bacolod so can't comment on the service.

One word on the girls that can be found in Bacolod is, caution. From my personal experince most girls from Bacolod will say and agree to almost anything in chat before you meet. Most are just thrilled a foreigner will come to visit them they will tell you want you want to hear to get you to show up. Once you are there they will change there story and tell you they never agreed to go with you to the hotel. Most will just use the occasion to brag to friends and family and show off without any real intention to go to your hotel. Sure there are exceptions and again YMMV but I mention this just as a word of caution. Also I have found alot of scams originating from Bacolod girls, with the majority very skilled in playing mind games and I would not trust any of them as far as I can throw a Jollibee Yum burger. Once again YMMV.

Almost the whole month of October there will be Masskara festivities ongoing in Bacolod and the week of the major parades hotels will be fully booked and traffic will be one massive gridlock with many streets around the downtown area closed. Avoid Bacolod at this time if this is your first trip as all the girls you have lined up to meet will disappear or be busy with friends or family at Masskara and will flake on you.[/QUOTE]Pretty in depth report. If I read that report on Trip Advisor then for sure I wouldn't go within 100 miles of the place. Anyways as we all know, theres pussy everywhere. Maybe the OP should get Ms Bacolod to fly to Manila.

[QUOTE=Questor55; 1205386]Slippery, you are likely to be out of luck when it comes to bars and restaurants in Naval. I was there for a couple of days, two years ago.

Only half way decent restaurants are located a few klicks out of town in two resorts. It's a small town with very few foreigners in evidence.

A couple of bars frequented by locals only. Naval is typical of isolated, small town Philippines. We don't know the rules and don't know the

Local power structure. I would suggest keeping a low profile and watch your back if you are intent on sampling the night life there.[/QUOTE]The hottest girl who ever worked in Rogues in P Burgos (real name Ann, can't remember stage name) came from Naval Biliran.

She was the girl you could find buck naked laid on the bar during the infamous Wine and Cheese parties there.

Oh the good old days. Now Ann is married having popped two kidlettes and theres no more Wine and Cheese parties at least in old format.

[QUOTE=Joe Banana;1200921]If the Pink Panther has changed hands in Sabang does anyone know if Alf is still around who ran it? A bit of a shame if Koreans have taken it over, a near monopoly situation is not good as they run many if the other bars too.[/QUOTE]Hi All:

I have been meaning to visit and post for the past 2 days to update on the latest big news for Sabang. 2 days ago, all bars raised their barfine prices from 2K to 3K. And beer / water from 60P to 80P. I guess the drinks are cheaper than Pampanga, but now the BF is same same or higher compared to some bars in Angeles.

So, if you are planning a trip to Sabang, it better be for the diving and not necessarily for the bar action.

The word on the street is that the Korean bar owners are responsible for the price hike. Sabang Disco has been Korean for a while, but recently a Korean took a new lease on Broadway bars and some say he overpaid the lease at 500K per month commitment and is struggling. He pressured the local barangay captain, who is also a bar owner, to raise the price. And of course all other bar owners must follow the trend.

Sabang is a very small community and so can be tightly controlled by the Barangay captain in terms of controlling the sex business. For example, the Barangay captain about 6 months ago banned 'hunting' girls, freelances from Sabang. He employs night patrolers to police this ban so the freelancers do not attempt to earn some food money. This ensures that the foreigners will visit his and other bars for their jollies after dark.

The PH owner of Las Vegas is not happy about the BF price hike because now noone is taking barfines. All will suffer now, the bar owners, the girls, the mamas because white foreigners will not pay 3K for service that is barely worth 500P hehehe.

In the 2. 5 years I've been in Sabang, the Korean business and visitor numbers have increased. They are the only investors here, building more accommodation facilities and establishing food businesses.

Regarding Pink Pantha. It has been replaced by Coco Lips and is still a useless small bar, overpriced drinks. It does not matter if you are young and handsome or fat and old, the girls will give you 10mins of chat and if no LD is given, they will retreat into the corner to talk to their friends leaving you alone for the remainder of your stay in the bar.

The word is the Australian owner of the lease evicted Alf and has decided to run the new bar himself. Alf relocated Pink Panta up the hill in Senentigan and tried to persuade people to visit there but with no success. I do not know the final result of Alf's move.

In conclusion, unless you bring your own girl company, expect the now 3K BF prices; few freelance opportunities (in fact even Big Apple is lean of freelances these days) ; higher drinks prices.

P. S. I had a cash rich English friend here for about a week. He made a BF each night while the price was 2K and each morning over coffee he would relay his experiences. Each BF gir was a headache in one way or another. Either they forced him to wait till mid night before leaving with him because they must finish their 3 set dance routine and then complain to him that they are too tired for the bombom business. Or after the first bombom, give some rubbish story about having to go home. Or making promises about the morning glory bombom and then changing their minds etc etc.

I have never paid a BF and I have to say. 80% of the ST experiences are barely worth 500P let alone 2K and now 3K.

Having said that, I did have a sweet visitor today. New arrival, never did the business with a white guy before. She said she will never forget me, heheheh. I negotiated a package: 2 visits for 1K and will see her again on Monday. This experience confirms my thinking to give up on the bargirls and focus attention on regular girls in other normal locations, not Sabang. Heheheh.

I think I have been in PH too long. Hehehe. Or I am only now getting a firmer grasp on the reality of the situation in Sabang at least.

Peace out

Is there a way to keep these guys outside of phils? They are going to ruin the whole country!

I have some great memories in Sabang 2 years ago and I never paid more than 500p for a fuck there.

So what you tell us Redim makes me think I will never go back there.

Angeles is going down too

They even come to the Santos bars these days paying LD and even throwing ping pong balls in a ST bar!

Fuck them!

After the Sabang BF price hike development, I thought the girls would immediately start to think that their 'value' was higher. And how this will impact on the price they will accept for afternoon ST encounters. Well, perhaps the impact is not as widespread as I imagined.

For example, I had a spontaneous visitor to my room today. When I first met her a week ago, she insisted on 1K for afternoon ST. Today we chatted about the BF price rises, she believes the rates are now too expensive and is worried that less foreigners will pay that BF rate.

After the chatting, I offered her a package: 2 encounters for 1K. She agreed and will visit again in a few days to collect the second half of the deal.

So it might still be business as usual here in Sabang outside of the bars. For example, as before, some girls will scream 1K for afternoon ST, while others will accept the 700/500 offers, like before. Sure there will always be the cutties that never ST. But will less foreigners paying the BF, then the girls will be same same open minded to afternoon ST delights. Hehehe.

So, for those like me who are not interested in paying the BF, then use the same strategy as before. Pay the higher prices for the drinks and use your bar time to make friends and distribute your cell number and wait for the booty calls.

The Koreans. Some long terms westerns believe that the Koreans come here on package deals, booked and paid for in Korea. The package includes: flights; hotel and some kind of BF quota. The hotel will then pay the bars at the end of the month for each hotel guest. Perhaps the bars give the hotels some kind of bulk discount on BF quotas etc. So the Koreans do not payout for each BF as it is packaged in the original holiday deal. And with the price hike, the travel agent / hotel may absorb the price hike partially.

Nevertheless, I still believe the price hike will impact on foreigner casual BFs.

The instigator of the price hike was the new Broadway lease holder, Korean. The PH owner asked a certain monthly price for the lease, the Korean agreed and now realizes he has overpaid and feels the pain so he needs to raise cashflow. Visitor numbers to Sabang have been on the decline since the economic crisis and this will continue. So the pain for business operators here will increase over time.

Despite the appearance that Koreans have some kind of superior business savy, they will make mistakes like westerners with business and investment decisions. So I will not lose sleep if / when they (Koreans) crash and burn.

[QUOTE=Redim;1206662]2 days ago, all bars raised their barfine prices from 2K to 3K.[/QUOTE]Did the bars in Sabang raise their barfines from 1000 to 2000 or 3000? Did the bars change like Angeles with a straight barfine without tip? Or are the girls demanding more than 1000 tip for a total cost of 3000?

Previously the barfine in Sabang was 1000, with the girl getting a 1000 tip the next morning, for a total of 2000 pesos.

Yes, the bar owners have got together and agreed to raise the barfines to 3000, 1500 for the bar and 1500 for the girl. Drinks have also increased 25. The reason is the Koreans come to the bars early, barfine girls and don't spend money on drinks. Western Foreigners like me tend arrive later, party in the bars with the girls, buy drinks and then bar fine the girls. The first night after the increase in bar fine, very very few girls were barfined. The business model of Koreans barfining the girls and not spending money in the bars will evening cause the bars to fail. Most of the bars are owned by Koreans now. This issue was eventually going to come to a head so it will be interesting to see what happens next.

[QUOTE=GreenBud; 1207549]Did the bars in Sabang raise their barfines from 1000 to 2000 or 3000? Did the bars change like Angeles with a straight barfine without tip? Or are the girls demanding more than 1000 tip for a total cost of 3000?

Previously the barfine in Sabang was 1000, with the girl getting a 1000 tip the next morning, for a total of 2000 pesos.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Snow Koala;1207978]This issue was eventually going to come to a head so it will be interesting to see what happens next.[/QUOTE]Have Subic rates risen to match the competition? It is the obvious alternative for those seeking diving with nightly entertainment. My last trip the total price was the same as Sabang's old rates at 1500+500. It will be interesting to see if the 500 has grown to 1500. I must admit though that Sabang always represented better value interms of looks and their general attitude of keep the punters happy and they will come back. It will be a pity if that has disappeared.

[QUOTE=Goferring;1209283]Have Subic rates risen to match the competition? It is the obvious alternative for those seeking diving with nightly entertainment. My last trip the total price was the same as Sabang's old rates at 1500+500. It will be interesting to see if the 500 has grown to 1500. I must admit though that Sabang always represented better value interms of looks and their general attitude of keep the punters happy and they will come back. It will be a pity if that has disappeared.[/QUOTE]Subic bars 1700 + tip in the room to the girl. Girl gets 700 of the 1700. I was in Subic 2 weeks ago and Subic bars have improved since I was there 3. 5 years ago but still not enough girls. For me, good bars in Subic are Wet Spot and Lips. Diving and girls are still a lot better in Sabang than Subic but Subic is a good change especially if your are a fan of wreck diving. [url]www.subicdive.com[/url] Is a good dive shop and they have basic rooms as well. The dive shop at Blue Rock has closed but the rooms and food are still good. Subic bars tend to get busy later, like after 11pm so don't be surprised if you are the only customer in the bar at 9pm.

If I was a bar owner in Sabang, I would set my bar fine to 2000p until 10pm, then 1000p after 10pm. This keeps a good proportion of the girls in the bar until later when the punters have had enough drinks. There are plenty of non-girlie bar in Sabang like Marty's and Tamarind if you want to have cheap drinks.

If anyone knows of another good dive place in Philippines with girlie bars, please let us know.

Can anyone confirm that they dropped the barfine cost back down to the old price?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Rubio Tonto; 1210862]Can anyone confirm that they dropped the barfine cost back down to the old price?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Sabang Update:

BF.

Coco Lips: 2000, 1000 to bar then 1K for the girl in morning before she leaves. This is the system for all bars.

Broadway: 3000.

Sabang Disco: 3000.

Village: 3000.

Venus: 2000.

Vegas: 2000.

Things to mindful of:

Go early and take your girls, otherwise you will be left with the Korean rejects in the 3K korean owned bars after 730pm. This applies to all bars.

Regarding the 2K, PH owners, bars, again go early, otherwise you will be left with both Korean and Western rejects. The 2K bars are now very busy with few available girls after 9pm because of the price difference.

Freelance girls are few because they are policed away by barangay captain security monkeys patrolling around at night.

Can anyone inform me please of what to expect in terms of Nightlife in Boracay as well as any other attractions?

Stuff like normal bars where you can pick up "amature or normal" locals and expats. Also, some mongering bars where you pick up p2ps. Any other tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Redim; 1212277]Sabang Update:

BF.

Coco Lips: 2000, 1000 to bar then 1K for the girl in morning before she leaves. This is the system for all bars.

Broadway: 3000.

Sabang Disco: 3000.

Village: 3000.

Venus: 2000.

Vegas: 2000.

Things to mindful of:

Go early and take your girls, otherwise you will be left with the Korean rejects in the 3K korean owned bars after 730pm. This applies to all bars.

Regarding the 2K, PH owners, bars, again go early, otherwise you will be left with both Korean and Western rejects. The 2K bars are now very busy with few available girls after 9pm because of the price difference.

Freelance girls are few because they are policed away by barangay captain security monkeys patrolling around at night.[/QUOTE]Guys,

The Koreans are killing Sabang for us Westerners. I have been going to Sabang since 2006 and the last 2 years the Koreans have invaded and now the bars in Sabang are no fun anymore. What can we do? If the Korean Won took a huge dive making it expensive for Koreans to travel that would help but not likely anytime soon.

Suggestions please.

Snow

Than don't buy Samsung phone, Kia cars and don't ship your Chinese junk with with Hyundai shipping lines.

[QUOTE=Snow Koala; 1212925]Guys,

The Koreans are killing Sabang for us Westerners. I have been going to Sabang since 2006 and the last 2 years the Koreans have invaded and now the bars in Sabang are no fun anymore. What can we do? If the Korean Won took a huge dive making it expensive for Koreans to travel that would help but not likely anytime soon.

Suggestions please.

Snow[/QUOTE]

Also, here are some suggestions:

1. Boycott the Korean owned bars of Broadway, Sabang Disco and Village or at least refuse to buy girlie drinks.

2. Vacate any bar that has too many Koreans or leave when a large group enters and make sure you make it known to the girls that there are too many Koreans.

3. The bargirls in Sabang tell me that Koreans don't like to use condoms so spread rumours that all Koreans have diseases.

4. BYOGs from AC or Manila.

5. Spend less time in Sabang. There are plenty of other good places around Philippines and easier to get to, I. E. Subic, AC, Cebu.

Snow "Pissed Off" Koala.

[QUOTE=Mbsl65;1213012]Than don't buy Samsung phone, Kia cars and don't ship your Chinese junk with with Hyundai shipping lines.[/QUOTE]Guys,

The Koreans are killing Sabang for us Westerners. I have been going to Sabang since 2006 and the last 2 years the Koreans have invaded and now the bars in Sabang are no fun anymore. What can we do? If the Korean Won took a huge dive making it expensive for Koreans to travel that would help but not likely anytime soon.

Suggestions please.

Snow

[QUOTE=Snow Koala; 1213345]Also, here are some suggestions:

1. Boycott the Korean owned bars of Broadway, Sabang Disco and Village or at least refuse to buy girlie drinks.

2. Vacate any bar that has too many Koreans or leave when a large group enters and make sure you make it known to the girls that there are too many Koreans.

3. The bargirls in Sabang tell me that Koreans don't like to use condoms so spread rumours that all Koreans have diseases.

4. BYOGs from AC or Manila.

5. Spend less time in Sabang. There are plenty of other good places around Philippines and easier to get to, I. E. Subic, AC, Cebu.

Snow "Pissed Off" Koala.

Guys,

The Koreans are killing Sabang for us Westerners. I have been going to Sabang since 2006 and the last 2 years the Koreans have invaded and now the bars in Sabang are no fun anymore. What can we do? If the Korean Won took a huge dive making it expensive for Koreans to travel that would help but not likely anytime soon.

Suggestions please.

Snow[/QUOTE]Update:

One girl from Village Bar (Korean owned) and a 3K BF, told me many girls are leaving, especially, the ones that do not fit the narrow profile that the Koreans like. This trend is probably happening in the other 3K bars also.

(Correction from previous post, Venus is also a 3K bar).

Those koreans that are not on a holiday / girl quota package pre-paid in korea, now invade the 2K bars and swipe all the decent girls by 8pm.

The korean invaders will burn themselves eventually unless they can maintain the flow of pre-paid punters shipped in by the boatload.

Only western dumbass tourists and lonely koreans will pay 3K for korean rejected prospects, in Sabang at least.

Another rumor. A 2 pricing system is developing. 1 for koreans and blowins, and 1 for expats. If you are in one of the 3K bars and want a girl, talk to the mama, say you are a resident and she may allow the girl to go with you for 2K. My friend was in Venus the other night and the mama made the 2K offer.

On a lighter note, the dry season is approaching with the promise of bluesky days, great swimming and exploring some of the 'secret' beaches for afternoon snorkels and snacks.