Hanoi

I have been following these threads for years, but the post below was so useful I thought I must now sign up and contribute. If you want to go down market, there are hundreds of fake barber shops and tam quats where you can get a BBBJ on a grubby massage bed, and the girl will let you play with her. Often a bit routine, but great when you are in the right mood and have 20 minutes spare between work meetings. They are all over the city, but with lots down the far end of Thuy Khue (number 200 up) , and nearby Doc Ngu. My favourites? Phuong at 381 Kim Ma for best BBBJ. She's a real artist, takes it slow, tongue everywhere (yes) teasing and building you up for a great CIM finish. She's a little older than some, but cute smile and nice ass. She will do whatever you want but not FS. Another regular for me is Trang at 26 Doc Ngu. Young girl next door type with no special skills, but she and I fumble around like a couple of horny teens, and if you're very lucky she'll hand you a condom and you get the lot. Normally on her back legs together in the air jeans and panties round her ankles, but she will occasionally strip off and give you the whole GFE, or bend over the bed. Remember this is not really allowed, so needs to be when it's quiet. Next door down an alley there's a girl called Mai, who looks a bit scarily whorish with lipstick and lots of frizzy hair, but she's nice and pleasant, speaks a bit of English and will do FS for a fixed fee of 500. And finally my 3rd girl is Nga at Royal Rose Massage. 299 Cau Giay. This is a standard massage joint with clean sheets and towels, sauna etc. Nga is a bigger girl than most, which is a nice change. Beautiful face, she really aims to please, with good massage, nice HJ and a lot of playing before and after the sauna. She wears classy panties under her uniform, and if she lets you in (which is not always) you will see a great black forest of pube next to her smooth light skin. If you slide a tongue or finger in you will find a pussy that is big but tight and very wet after a little stroking. She likes it and trembles a bit, but keeps glancing at the little window. So, these are my girls for now. You can find your own, or try one of mine. If you do, I ask you for 2 things: 1. Treat them nicely and 2. Recommend new ones for me.

[QUOTE=Joffre;1172088].[i].[/i]. They are all over the city, but with lots down the far end of Thuy Khue (number 200 up) , and nearby Doc Ngu.[i].[/i].[/QUOTE]Wow, two most enlightning reports coming very timely, thanks Joffre and The Guy. Will come in handy when I return later this summer.

I stayed at Somerset West Lake last year and unknowingly entered a Tam Quat nearly opposite the hotel which said 'Massage' on the sign board, and was very pleasantly surprised when the sweet 'masseuse' unceremoniously went for a quite nice BBBJ. She allowed my hands to wander and it was great to feel her becoming so wet. I don't remember what I paid, maybe 200k, but I also gave the girl a tip.

So Joffre: how much is the usual damage and is it customary to tip, and in that case: how much?

Can one expect the same service at every Tam Quat? Or is there any way to distinguish those who give from those who don't? I think I will stay around the French Quarters next time.

[So Joffre: how much is the usual damage and is it customary to tip, and in that case: how much?

Can one expect the same service at every Tam Quat? Or is there any way to distinguish those who give from those who don't? I think I will stay around the French Quarters next time.[/QUOTE]You pay between 100 and 300 (1 or 2 try to get more from westerners) and tip or 100. 200 or more expected. However, when I am happy after a nice session with a regular I tip a lot more. 500 and up. It's worth it. The girl is happy, and then next time she makes even more of an effort.

All those tam quat places near each other are BJ joints, and it's obvious from the row of scantily clad girls sitting inside. There are some very simple poor places which just offer massage, but you can tell that when the bed is not curtained off. You can always change your mind and leave.

Anyone know where I can find mature womens (40 and 50 years old).

I am recently craving for them!

[QUOTE=Towel; 1173968]Anyone know where I can find mature womens (40 and 50 years old).

I am recently craving for them![/QUOTE]Most of the ladies selling pho bo would qualify. Try to catch them early around 8am, you will notice that they wears makeup but no bra!

Dear everyone here is one review and along with a few questions about services in Hanoi. I live out of town but here often for work. Last month visited Oasis at Lang Ha street near the Fortuna Hotel where I sometimes stay at. Had very good service with cute SYT number 36 I think. Some flirting and then after massage the usual questions, haha! I like this place because the girls don't' wear shorts under the skirt. This girl I even manage to remove the underwear for easier access while she HJ. A new one for me!

Girl: 7. 5.

Massage: 7?

HJ + roam: 8.

Overall been there a few times and find most girls flirty and fun, sometimes there are some boring ones though. But I always go back. Also the girl there #1 that I like (easy to remember but off lots!). Hope these reports help someone else.

One thing with VN girls is no real trimming downstairs which I don't like. I Like the Oasis place and one report below talks about another one: Oasis 2? I think I will check this out next few weeks when I am back in town. Any recomendations for girls at these massage places? Know any girls that keep shave below?

Sorry, I can't find Doc Bac Co Street, where the Oasis 2 is located. It's not on Google maps and it's not on my street map of Hanoi. Can you tell me where it's near? Thanks.

[QUOTE=The Guy; 1170458]I just finished up an extended stay in Hanoi and thought I'd pass this one.

For the short-term monger, Hanoi is tough. I suggest you do it the expensive way and go to the Fortuna, but it'll cost you $200 all night with peripheral expenses. Or do it the medium way and go to Nutz at the Sheraton where you'll pay $50 short-term or all night. Or do it the cheap way and visit a proven high-end men's massage parlor, but then you'll just get HJ for $20-30. If you're in town for a few nights and do not know locals who can guide you, your options are limited. I don't do the low-end places, so I can't comment on those.

If you go to the Fortuna, make sure you ask the Mamasan only to bring around the women who will do sex. Some only entertain guests in the Karaoke rooms. There are cheaper karaoke bars with pretty women but it's very hard to navigate them without local Vietnamese friends. As a foreigner on your own, I don't recommend you try on your own. If you just want a girl sent to you, you can call / text this Fortuna mamasan: Hoang 01686770888. Plan on $100 ST and $150 LT.

The easiest option are the men's massage parlors, but you have to know where the best talent is. It tends to change from time to time. For a while, I was going to the massage parlor of the Bao Som Hotel. 50 Nguyen Chi Thanh. Massage 200, 000 and most girls will generally be up for a meeting at a later time, just exchange cell numbers. I usually tipped 200, 000 for good service and 50, 000-100, 000 for mediocre service. However, over the past year, talent has deteriorated at that place. I also don't like wearing the shorts.

Some readers have recommended Kingston Club. 53b Hang Chuoi, and it's pretty decent. Around $20 for the massage and they'll bath you. Girls will probably meet up later. Tip 200, 000 for good service.

Best place at the moment is the "other" Oasis Hotel. 77 Doc Bac Co. You go into the restaurant and ride the elevator to the 5th floor (not the 6th, like the signs say). Never seen a foreigner in the place. Known by Vietnamese locals to have the best looking girls in town right now. VIP massage 450, 000 for 90 minutes. Big rooms. You can start by sitting in the easy chair and having the girl sit on your lap while you feel them up. Then she'll bathe you in the whirlpool, then massage. Unhurried HJ and the girls so far have been willing to meet up after their shifts (which, unfortunately, end at midnight). No shorts. The Oasis on Lang Ha is OK, but this one is much better. Tip 200, 000 for good service.

For long-timers in Hanoi, you have many options. There are so many girls / women who want to meet a Westerner to practice English or try something different. Just put an ad in any of the dating websites or even in the New Hanoian. It's like fishing. You'll pull in some attractive ones and some unattractive ones. As someone else on this site said, most wlomen will be longing for sex with you by the 3rd date. In fact, some Vietnamese women seem to be starving for sex. Best to invite them to your own apartment. They're more conflicted than Western women about sex, sometimes feel guilty but at the same time beg you not to stop.

Pluses of Viet girls: Much easier to get one with flat tummy, no kid than in Thailand, but they are less skilled in sex. Viet men make any foreigner look good to them. Lots of pent-up sexuality and fantasies with Western men. That can be fun.

Minuses of Viet girls: Bad teeth. The man really has to take the initiative, depending what you want to do.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Terry1000;1177075]Sorry, I can't find Doc Bac Co Street, where the Oasis 2 is located. It's not on Google maps and it's not on my street map of Hanoi. Can you tell me where it's near? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Not far from the Opera House / Hilton area but across a busy thoroughfare and away from the tourist streets. I recommend you show a page with the name of Oasis 2 Hotel and the address to a taxi driver the first time you go. The o in Co has a tail.

[QUOTE=Terry1000;1177075]Sorry, I can't find Doc Bac Co Street, where the Oasis 2 is located. It's not on Google maps and it's not on my street map of Hanoi. Can you tell me where it's near? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Here's the info from the hotel's website (did I put an extra "doc" in?) :

OASIS 2 HOTEL.

Add: 77 Bac Co Str, Hanoi, Vietnam.

Tel: (84. 4) 39328886 Fax: (84. 4) 38257191

Are there any good massage place not far from Hoan Kiem lake or old quarter.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=FranklinD;22145]Where do you go in Hanoi to find a pharmacy and can I get Viagra there? Is it available in Hanoi? Please, any tips would sure be appreciated.[/QUOTE]You should take a taxi or "xe om" go to Ngoc Khanh street near Giang Vo exhibition center, this street has a lot of pharmacy shops and you might get Viagra there. If you staying in "Old street" area you could buy Viagra or something like that at Hang Chieu street. Hang Chieu str is well know place for selling sex drug and sex toy but it is black market and they only sell it at late evening.

[QUOTE=Erik; 26410]Does anybody have info about the action in Bay Chai (the so called Halong Bay City) , Cat Ba and Haiphong?

I will be travelling from China to this area next month. Any hotel to recommand?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Bai Chay doesn't have much girls there but it is very easy to find the girls at Cat Ba or Do Son (near Hai Phong city). You can ask taxi," xe om" or even the hotel receptionist introduce some girls for you, I went to Doson on yesterday and the price is around 15$ for one short.

[QUOTE=Nhapnhom;1177730]You should take a taxi or "xe om" go to Ngoc Khanh street near Giang Vo exhibition center,[/QUOTE]You can also go to any of the pharmacies "nhà thu&7889; see tâwhy" (western medicine pharmacy) on Quan S&7913; near the corner Hai Bà Tr&432; ng across from the Hospital. Viagra is expensive $5usd per pill 50mg. If you can go with an alternative generic brand, I. E. Adagrin, it will cost you about $2usd per 50mg pill.

[QUOTE=The Guy; 1177276]Here's the info from the hotel's website (did I put an extra "doc" in?) :

OASIS 2 HOTEL.

Add: 77 Bac Co Str, Hanoi, Vietnam.

Tel: (84. 4) 39328886 Fax: (84. 4) 38257191[/QUOTE]It's actually D&7889; see Básee C&7893; Street but most people still use the common name which is C&7847; you &272; &7845; t Street. So tell the cab "77 C&7847; you &272; &7845; t" to make things easier.

[QUOTE=MuoiBeo;1178432]It's actually D&7889; see Básee C&7893; Street but most people still use the common name which is C&7847; you &272; &7845; t Street. So tell the cab "77 C&7847; you &272; &7845; t" to make things easier.[/QUOTE]What's with all the numbers? Code? Or you just can't type?

Pretty much every pharmacy has this stuff. The original is expensive but the generics are just as effective with the same active ingredients.

Best to ask for them by the generic names (Sildenafil or Taladafil) and usually the pharmacist will respond in english so that the conversation remains a little private.

[QUOTE=Sudsoz;1178504]What's with all the numbers? Code? Or you just can't type?[/QUOTE]The forum must not support Vietnamese diacritics. I had typed everything with the proper diacritics to avoid confusion, and to make it easier for folks to copy down. Anyway, Oasis 2 is at 77 Cau that (also called Doc Bac Co as indicated in a previous post). Most cab drivers know "Cau that" instead of the other name.

[QUOTE=Sudsoz; 1178507]Pretty much every pharmacy has this stuff. The original is expensive but the generics are just as effective with the same active ingredients.

Best to ask for them by the generic names (Sildenafil or Taladafil) and usually the pharmacist will respond in english so that the conversation remains a little private.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Though I've read in the papers that there has been a rash of fake drugs, especially name brand Viagra, on the market. I simply go to pharmacies (nha thuoc tay) that are popular and do a lot of business, say in front of a hospital. That's why I recommend any of the pharmacies in front of the hospital on Quan Su Street (near the corner of Hai Ba Trung).

Still no find any mature womens! If anyone has clue, please tell me!

Oasis 2 is located on Doc Bac Co, which is listed as "Cau that" on GMAPS.

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?q=cau[/url]+that+hanoi&hl=en&sll=21. 026818, 105. 856335&sspn=0. 004892, 0.008218&z=17

I wrote some time ago about my experience with married ladies during the time I was working in Hanoi. My favourite was Lan who I discovered via Date In Asia and when I asked why she was looking for a lover she said that a common discussion among some of her female friends was the size of western men's cocks compared to Vietnamese men and how they were also much better in bed, so decided to try.

Recently I had to return to Hanoi for two months so decided to re-kindle our relationship however when I emailed Lan she said the she was in the USA for a year staying with her sister but she thought a friend of hers might be interested.

A few day later I received a email from Ngoc suggesting we meet for coffee so as I was renting a flat on Truc Bach we arranged to meet at the Happy House. What a surprise where Lan was a small cute typical Vietnamese woman Ngoc was tall, elegant with a perfect figure poured into tight blue jeans, in her mid 40's she was a university lecturer and had been married since she was 20. After a few drinks she said she wanted to find out if what Lan had been telling her was true so we walked back to my apartment, I got a hard on just walking behind her as we climbed the stairs to my flat where once the door was closed she flew at me hugging kissing and rubbing herself against me. She was without doubt the best fuck I have ever had and during the six weeks she wanted it every way in both holes, she also liked to swallow. So lads with a bit of ground work no need to pay it is all out there for free.

I am off to Phnom Penh in a few weeks and hoping to find a few friends I haven't seen for years and have posted an enquiry there in the hope that they may still be around.

Howdy everyone.

What a great piece of intelligence this place is. Wish I'd discovered it sooner. Quick question re WLs: recently when cruising down Duong Buoi (Canal road that runs into the Cau Giay roundabout) I noticed a few WLs plying their trade on the sidewalk. Discreetly so. I am wondering if anyone here has had experience with any of these ladies, can make recommendations and indicate current pricing arrangements. All information most welcome. I am assuming they have Nga Nhi close by that they utilise for clients.

Cheers all. Been in Hanoi 6 months now and will be writing some of my own experiences on here soon. It's tricky out there. Us Hanoians need to help each other out!

CS

i gave this place that qxeau suggested the other day. it's pretty much as he described a few pages back. parking for your bike downstairs. you get taken upstairs and can have a sauna, or as i did, just had a quick shower and then head straight for the massage. the girl i had was small and decent looking, but the rooms are very hot. massage lasted about half an hour and then she asked if i wanted my "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]" massaged. i said yes and she got out a little tip book for me to fill out the amount in. i wrote 200, 000 vnd she wanted more, but didn't put up too much of a fuss. it was then off with the shorts and covered with a towel for a very clinical hj. nothing particular wrong with the service, but i do like a girl to at least show a little interest in what she's doing.

once it was all over, you go back upstairs to change and then to the front desk to pay the 150, 000 vnd for the massage plus whatever tip you agreed to. not sure if i'll be going back any time soon, but it's another place to add to the list of places to visit when the need arises.

I tried 148 Au Co too and was disappointed. Average looking girl started Ok massage and then started bargaining hard for HJ I knew would be "clinical" so I got bored, left and went across town to see one of my regulars. The truth is there is no consistency in these places. Get the right girl, strike up a rapport, and she'll do amazing things for you, but others talk only about money and don't even try to please. So let's recommend girls, not places.

I am in Hanoi for the next two weeks and looking for a little advice.

I am staying near the opera house and have found a few massage places around here that have been disappointing. One had a great looking girl but she was just going through the motions and wanted way too much money (300US to come to my hotel) so I said no.

I am looking for a place I can go to get full service GFE without having to bring a girl back to my hotel.

Any advice is appreciated.

Richard & Joffre.

Genuinely sorry you didn't find 148 Au Co any good. I think Joffre makes a good point. It's the girl who makes the difference. The girl I used to see there has moved on. I still like the place as it is clean and well run.

Time to do some random drop-ins in a few places I think and get a feel for some new talent.

[QUOTE=Erikb1978; 1202413]I am in Hanoi for the next two weeks and looking for a little advice.

I am staying near the opera house and have found a few massage places around here that have been disappointing. One had a great looking girl but she was just going through the motions and wanted way too much money (300US to come to my hotel) so I said no.

I am looking for a place I can go to get full service GFE without having to bring a girl back to my hotel.

Any advice is appreciated.[/QUOTE]If you're only here for a short time and don't know the language, then your best bet is to head to Nutz Bar at the Sheraton Hotel. You'll easily pick up a girl there who should give you the GFE. Price should be between 1. 5M. 2M VND for short time, and they'll know a hotel that you can go to together. Overnight should cost you around 3M VND. Most of the girls there will speak enough English to make your life easy.

It's probably about 20 minutes form your hotel in a taxi, shouldn't cost more than 50k. 100k VND to get there.

I found an interesting little place on Dong Tac the other day. Drive along Pham Ngoc Thach until you get to the traffic lights near to where the star bowl used to be. Turn left at the lights and you'll see a sign advertising massages on the right, follow the sign down an alley about 30m down the road.

The place is definitely for the locals. Ticket price was 100k VND. Had a quick shower in a grotty little cubicle and then put on the massage shorts and was led to the room. The room was reasonable, aircon split between two rooms and a fan. The door to the massage room has a small window in it, so only HJs are possible.

The woman that serviced me was on the larger side, but had a nice big pair of boobs. My shorts stayed on for all of 5 minutes and she spent the whole hour giving me a very sensuous massage with lots of anal play and brushing against my cock to get me excited. She then gave me a great HJ without trying to negotiate for a tip.

When it was all over I tipped her 200k VND. I think she would have been happy with much less, but I thought her performance merited that much. I'd return again if I happened to be in the area, and I'd hope to get the same woman again. Didn't see any of the other girls, so can't tell you if there are any better looking women than her.

[QUOTE=Qxeau; 1202695]Richard & Joffre.

Genuinely sorry you didn't find 148 Au Co any good. I think Joffre makes a good point. It's the girl who makes the difference.[/QUOTE]No worries, I've certainly had far worse experiences. It's definitely about which girl you get, really is luck of the draw. Like my last report; my first impression was oh great I've got a heffer! And in the end she gave me one of the best experiences I've had in Hanoi for some time. I just really need to work on my language skills to make arranging things easier. I haven't tried them yet, but there are a couple of places on Nghi Tam that I'm going to try out when I get time. I think the numbers are 109 and 129 (or 129 and 149). They're on the opposite side of the dyke road to Esalen 3.

I figure just go in and give them a try. 90% of the "locals" places that I've tried have at least some extras on offer. I figure if we try enough of them we might end up running across one that does FS in house. I miss being in Ha Tinh, where pretty much every place I went to was FS for just a few hundred thousand Dong.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins; 1202716]If you're only here for a short time and don't know the language, then your best bet is to head to Nutz Bar at the Sheraton Hotel. You'll easily pick up a girl there who should give you the GFE. Price should be between 1. 5M. 2M VND for short time, and they'll know a hotel that you can go to together. Overnight should cost you around 3M VND. Most of the girls there will speak enough English to make your life easy.

It's probably about 20 minutes form your hotel in a taxi, shouldn't cost more than 50k. 100k VND to get there.[/QUOTE]Thanks Richard for the advice, this is about what I expected so I will head there soon. Is there a time when the action is best? Do I need to bring my own "supplies" or will the girl have everything needed?

I haven't tried them yet, but there are a couple of places on Nghi Tam that I'm going to try out when I get time. I think the numbers are 109 and 129 (or 129 and 149). They're on the opposite side of the dyke road to Esalen 3.

Drove past there today. Seems 109 is a local looking place. 129 is Annam Spa and looks relatively upmarket. Either not promising or promising with a price tag. Actually, there seems to be a number of options to explore on Nghi Tam and Au Co. Good Autumn / Winter project.

[QUOTE=Erikb1978;1203031]Thanks Richard for the advice, this is about what I expected so I will head there soon. Is there a time when the action is best? Do I need to bring my own "supplies" or will the girl have everything needed?[/QUOTE]I can't really advise you of the best time. I'd just say don't get there too early and don't get there too late probably from around 9:30. 10pm onwards. As for supplies, I'd suggest taking your own condoms, the girls are likely to have these, but if you buy your own, then you're sure that they'll fit. Finding condoms supplied by the girls being too small is a common complaint for westerners here.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins;1203080]I can't really advise you of the best time. I'd just say don't get there too early and don't get there too late probably from around 9:30. 10pm onwards. As for supplies, I'd suggest taking your own condoms, the girls are likely to have these, but if you buy your own, then you're sure that they'll fit. Finding condoms supplied by the girls being too small is a common complaint for westerners here.[/QUOTE]Nutz was a bust tonight, got there around 930 and stayed till 11 the only girls that were not there with guys were a couple in their late 30s.

I'm looking for a place to score the 18. 19 year old girls. I know language can be an issue but I don't mind trying some of the other places.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins;1203080]I can't really advise you of the best time. I'd just say don't get there too early and don't get there too late probably from around 9:30. 10pm onwards. As for supplies, I'd suggest taking your own condoms, the girls are likely to have these, but if you buy your own, then you're sure that they'll fit. Finding condoms supplied by the girls being too small is a common complaint for westerners here.[/QUOTE]I think I posted this but it is not showing so maybe not.

Nutz was a bit of a bust tonight got there around 930 and left at 11 tried to tell my taxi I was looking for a girl and he had no clue so I just handed him my hotel card to take me home. Nutz was full of great looking young girls but they were all with someone and the only ones unattached were a couple old ladies in their late 30s early 40s which is not what I am after.

I'm looking for the place I can get the young 18. 20 girls, I don't mind a little adventure just as long as I know what to tell the taxi driver.

If you want a street full of cut price BJs head for Doc Ngu (west Hanoi, down far end of Doi Can). There must be 6 or 7 places. My regular at number 26 was away so I stopped in at number 62. As I opened the door there was a near naked girl, nice looking, in the reception area. I was ushered through behind the curtain, and she quickly got dressed before joining me behind the curtain and starting to strip again! She exposed her rather splendid but I think remodelled breasts, lowered her panties and rubbed herself against me just long enough to get me hard, and then told me to drop my trousers. I obeyed and lay back. After thoroughly cleaning with a wet wipe, She started a really top BJ, including gripping the head with her lips, as a true artist. She's a good looking girl too, and I was really starting to enjoy, when she stopped and seemed to say time was up! It was like a fairground ride! She tugged the todger a few times to make me come, and then by the time I was standing up, she was already next door rinsing and spitting noisily, and I could hear a bloke grunting and another girl whimpering behind the curtain. No tip was required, I paid the 200 fee and was out on the pavement zipping up my flies less than 10 minutes after stopping in front. You could almost pop in there while waiting for the traffic lights to change!

I think she was called Mai. I'll probably go again, as she's cute, good and cheap, but she won't become a regular.

Anyone knows if any working girls in Hanoi has latex or leather outfits?

Also is there anywhere here that you can buy such stuff?

Thanks in advance!

P S My latest experience was the massage joint next to Bao Son hotel. Ok massage and routine handjob for 200k + 200k tips, but not really anything that I would recommend.

Hi all,

First of all let me extend my many thanks to the contributors here; you have been very helpful.

Although cliche, I am a long long time lurker first time poster. I thought it's about time I gave something back to the community.

I consider myself a Junior punter if there ever was one; I still get really nervous still (fairly) young. I've had a couple of 30min sessions back home in Melb as well as a couple in Vancouver when I went there for business. Interestingly I have never had the "massage with happy ending" until this Vietnam trip, I can see myself being a regular to these types of establishments.

I was in Hanoi only for a short time and went to Sapa and Ha Long bay. I only had one day really to "play" in Hanoi. I did have more than one day really but my holiday was more about seeing new places not just about the endings.

(apologies for the longish review)

After reading some favourable reviews about Oasis 2, I decided to have a go. I got a taxi arranged by the hotel. I was a mixture of excited and nervous, it's slowly getting less and less with each punt. On my phone I had a website which showed a pic of the hotel and its address; I showed this to the bus boy and driver and apparently the driver knew it. However he was wrong. The hotel was near the water puppetry theatre on Hoan Kiem Lake and this dude went up and down the freeway a few times, asking dudes on motor bikes here there and everywhere. In the end he had no idea and dropped me (luckily) right near it. I had to deduce it from signs nailed onto posts, it's pretty clear once you get close. This taxi ride cost 70k VND, obviously ripped, but around 2. 5 who cares really.

For those who still are not sure where this place is I can do a screen shot of google maps and point it out if anyone would like.

From here, I have the review information on my phone. (A lot of thanks to "The Guy"). I walk in confidently, one entrance is a restaurant one is the hotel entrance. I walk into the hotel entrance and there are two dudes manning the desk. I walk by and hit the elevators, following "The Guy's" post and click the 5th floor; despite the signs saying it's on the 6th. Again I am a sheep and opted for the 90m 450k option as per "The Guy". The bloke at the desk will prompt you to do the 120min option. 90 min was enough for me. I am lead down the hall and told to wait. For the noobs who don't know what to expect, up to this point no money has exchanged. I should also point out that I went in the early evening on a Friday, being my last night, I wanted to use the later part of the night to party. The girl came. I don't know what the protocol is usually but that's what happened at this time, maybe other times you get a lineup. There was other girls on at the time as I saw one whilst negotiated the 90min option. As this seems to be a local haunt, not much english goes on. Anyway, I was pretty happy with my girl.

She was about 5'1" or 2" really skinny, decent face, but really sweet nature, nice smile. Pretty flat with A cups and a small ass. Not everyone's cup of tea (including my own probably) but she is a spinner for sure. Despit this; there was something about her and I was more than content with her. Not really a bone of english so that was a bit of a dampener. We still tried to talk or whatever. Her name was Cheng. 23 years old. On to the service. First up is you get nekked then off to the steam room / cubicle. I was a little worried because it was fucking hot as shit and more to that I couldn't see anything and I could hear her leaving and re-entering the room. I had no idea what she was doing (the room looked ready) and of course I'm thinking she's stealing shit (she didn't). She turned down the heat and I relaxed a bit, she still came and went a couple of times.

Anyway, after the small steam room was a shower which joins the steam room in one cubicle / unit thing. I was hoping she'd join me however they stay fully clothed here. Their uniform is a short dress, orange I think. Quick shower onto the tub which she has filled already, she did that whilst I was in the steam room. Get in the tub and she washes you, highlight of this was she gets the conditioner and gives the little bro some nice washing. Its hard for me to articulate in words our great chemistry, the best by far in my short punting career. All of this despite the language barrier. We were trying to learn words in each other's language etc. We asked each others age like five times but it was great. I dunno if it's standard practice or what but she really stroked my ego and my cock gesturing vietnamese cocks are small with her pinky and that she was happy with mine. I am not huge by any stretch, anyway, if she was being fake, it worked, if real, sucks to be Viet. I am ethnically Filipino so I dunno what's going on really. She washed my chest and gave my pecs the thumbs up and "good", that also gave me a bit of a boost. I guess if the girl actually finds you attractive, that can make the session. That or she's a good actress.

After the spa tub wash down and subsequent dry off to the bed for the massage. The massage was pretty good actually. On the flip everytime she walked around she's touch it and sigh in a wanting matter. You feel them up as much as you want, I didn't go for the vag BTW. Then here comes the negotiation: points to dick "massa baby?" (imagine heavy viet accent) At first she wanted 700k!"the Guy's" post says 200k. Anyway, being a noob, nervous, horny, a multitude of other adjectives, I offer 500 and she accepts. This negotiation was a little bit difficult and I had to get the iPhone out to confirm the numbers, I didn't mind showing the phone at this point because I was actually in the room. So yeah, the HJ was great, she knew how to work it, sucked on my nipples for an added bonus. One more standing wash of the goods to finish.

When I was getting changed it took me ages to understand but she actually wanted to give me her number. Got her number and the guy out the front said they finish at 1am. (I was ultra hammered at that time and got my phone stolen anyway, but that's another story). We were just hanging sitting on the table hugging. She couldn't stop rubbing her soft face on my 3 day stubble, she really really digged my beard. So she'd rub her cheeks on my cheek and then kiss my neck and lips (no dfk though). It was so hot. My best experience to date. I gave her a short massage then yeah, had to go.

I walked back down the hall, paid the front guy his 450k and left.

FS never seems to go to plan due to the aforementioned nerves. Anyway, I think I prefer massages with happy endings. I'd really like to try a body slide one day, but they're kinda hard to find and ultra exxy here in Aus.

Noob point: It was pretty difficult to get back, as the taxi drivers wouldn't stop for me, I had to get in when one dropped of people where I was waiting. Otherwise when you try and wave them down, they just wave back. Is there a special protocol when getting a cab in VN? When I told him the street he had no idea. So I said the lake and used land marks to direct me back to the hotel. Keep this in mind.

Nice report Ultrarandom, this place is still on my to do list if you'll pardon the pun. The whole language barrier can certainly increase the feeling of being a bit of a noob, but the more you do it, the more confident you'll feel on putting your foot down on the tip price. Picking up a few basic phrases will also make you feel more confident; it's a definite advantage to know your numbers, so you're not on the back foot during negotiations.

As for the hailing a cab thing, I can't help but laugh at the image of the cab drivers giving you a wave as they drive past. Don't stick your hand in the air to flag one down like you'd do at home, it won't work a lot of the time, and it can be an impolite gesture to put your hand out in the "stop" sign (that goes for all interactions). Have a look at what everyone else does: stick your arm out horizontally with your palm facing down (like you're making a turn signal on a bicycle) and then flap your hand up and down like you're limp wristed when you spot a cab coming.

I asked the concierge at my hotel where to get a good massage, and he told me that the massages there in the hotel were good. I didn't really think that a hotel massage would have any extras, but it was getting late and I decided to give it a try. Bought a massage from the hotel spa, and the girl was cute, English-speaking, and the massage was good quality. I have had some good massages in HCMC, sometimes with extras and sometimes not. I rubbed her leg while she massaged me, so that she knew that I was open to more contact. After about 45 minutes she offered to let me touch her and give HJ for $100 US. At first I thought she meant FS because it was so expensive, but we ended up at $70 US, which is a lot, but I wasn't going back out and she was nice. Ended up with a good slow HJ and some kissing, touching her all over, then followed by more rubbing. Not exactly cheap, but overall a satisfying experience and in a good setting having it done in a hotel spa. The girl had me give her the money someplace where there was no camera, at a spot in the hall around a corner. Must be against their rules to provide extras. Not sure I would do it again, knowing what I've read here about other options at a better cost, but it was a nice way to end the day.

Mr. Dawkins.

Thanks for the info. I can honestly tell you it was comical from my view point, waving at taxi drivers, then them waving back, they were all smiles though. Thanks for the tip regarding the 'stop' sign, luckily I didn't do that, it was more of a wave. The up / down gesture seems an interesting differentiation in worldwide 'taxi wave down' etiquette.

Unfortunately there are so many places to see and so little time / money, I don't think I'll be heading back to Vietnam any time soon, which is a shame because I really liked Hanoi. I didn't mind too much getting ripped because it was still under 50 AUD. I will however charge it to experience and endeavour to do some more homework in any new territory that I go, especially when it comes to the language.

On Sunday night I finally took the plunge and ventured back to Duong Boi to check out the SW action. The girls seem to have their stretches of pavement marked out. The first girl, in a pink dress, did not look that appealing, so I moved on. Th second girl, very pretty. Lovely hair, slim, long legs etc. Limited English but enough to say "boom boom"?

Well duh.

So, we agreed on 600k, including the room. She jumped on the bike and we went over the canal to a Nga Nhi which is clearly the SW Nga Nhi. Went up to the room. Here's the summary: clinical. Now, I know that is expected. But really clinical. It became a game for me to see how long I could spend with her. Made it to around 20 mins only. She motions for me to take a shower if I wish. I don't wish. She ask for the money up front, fair enough. She gets undressed, I get undressed. We both lay on the rock hard bed (but clean). She plays with me. No kissing, nothing else whatsoever. After getting the boy ready she whips on a condom. Indicates for me to climb on top of her. The game starts. I indicate for her to get on top of me. Back and forth. Naturally, I limp up. She gets me ready again. There is nothing in the air. All clinical. Finally I climb on and do the deed. Feels damn good actually. She really is quite pretty, about a 7, and if she tried a little I would have taken her number.

No effort. Back onto the street to find the next one. This I well understand. Tough game, no doubt a tough boss. But, taking texts when trying to get me ready. Hardly conducive. Should have negotiated down. Never mind.

So, if you feel like a quickie with no sides, Duong Boi is an option. Keep low expectations and you'll be right. Perfectly safe. A bloke to watch your bike etc. For 600. It'll do.

[QUOTE=Joffre;1172088]My favourites? Phuong at 381 Kim Ma for best BBBJ. You can find your own, or try one of mine. If you do, I ask you for 2 things: 1. Treat them nicely and 2. Recommend new ones for me.[/QUOTE]Joffre,

Thank you for your recomendations. I tried Phuong and she was just as you described. There were better looking girls in the place but I was very pleased with Phuong's attitude and service.

I did a market visit at the far end of Thuy Khue. The quality of the talent in most of them was pretty low; 3-5. However, I found one place at #361 that had 4-5, younger, better looking girls. The service (more hand, less mouth) could not compare with Phoung but the young, hard body to play with was an added pleasure.

OAH

Interesting. Maybe an uglier one would have been a bit more eager? Not far from there is a karaoke joint called Las Vegas. Outside I saw about 10 girls hanging around, probably before work. Anyway pretty sure they are available, hopefully without having to go inside and sing with them first.

1208014]On Sunday night I finally took the plunge and ventured back to Duong Boi to check out the SW action. The girls seem to have their stretches of pavement marked out. The first girl, in a pink dress, did not look that appealing, so I moved on. Th second girl, very pretty. Lovely hair, slim, long legs etc. Limited English but enough to say "boom boom"?

Well duh.

So, we agreed on 600k, including the room. She jumped on the bike and we went over the canal to a Nga Nhi which is clearly the SW Nga Nhi. Went up to the room. Here's the summary: clinical. Now, I know that is expected. But really clinical. It became a game for me to see how long I could spend with her. Made it to around 20 mins only. She motions for me to take a shower if I wish. I don't wish. She ask for the money up front, fair enough. She gets undressed, I get undressed. We both lay on the rock hard bed (but clean). She plays with me. No kissing, nothing else whatsoever. After getting the boy ready she whips on a condom. Indicates for me to climb on top of her. The game starts. I indicate for her to get on top of me. Back and forth. Naturally, I limp up. She gets me ready again. There is nothing in the air. All clinical. Finally I climb on and do the deed. Feels damn good actually. She really is quite pretty, about a 7, and if she tried a little I would have taken her number.

No effort. Back onto the street to find the next one. This I well understand. Tough game, no doubt a tough boss. But, taking texts when trying to get me ready. Hardly conducive. Should have negotiated down. Never mind.

So, if you feel like a quickie with no sides, Duong Boi is an option. Keep low expectations and you'll be right. Perfectly safe. A bloke to watch your bike etc. For 600. It'll do.[/QUOTE]

I popped into Nutz on a Friday night around 11pm during my stay in Hanoi. Most of the girls were older as previously reported and I could not understand how a few of them could even manage to get customers; fat, old, ugly (sounds like me LOL).

I did find a younger. 22 yo, that I was keen on. She quoted me 3 million to start for LT. I only wanted ST so she said 2 million. We finally agreed on 1. 5. As we were walking over to the Intercon, her attitude started to change, evidently because she realized that I was not such a big fish to catch and was complaining about the deal we made, asking again for more money. I started to lose interest thinking that her service would reflect her attitude. Anyway, the Intercon would not let her come up to my room after 10pm so I sent her on her way. She had the nerve to ask me for 20US$ for taxi fare. Obviously, I told her to get lost.

On the other hand, as I understand, the Intercon can be girl friendly if you register 2 guests when you check in and tell them your g / f is coming later and she has an I'd to present on arrival. My problem was that they checked the record and saw that I was only registered for 1 guest. Also, it seems that girls are allowed in before 10pm.

Just my POV.

OAH

[QUOTE=Joffre;1172088]And finally my 3rd girl is Nga at Royal Rose Massage. 299 Cau Giay. This is a standard massage joint with clean sheets and towels, sauna etc. Nga is a bigger girl than most, which is a nice change. Beautiful face, she really aims to please, with good massage, nice HJ and a lot of playing before and after the sauna. She wears classy panties under her uniform, and if she lets you in (which is not always) you will see a great black forest of pube next to her smooth light skin. If you slide a tongue or finger in you will find a pussy that is big but tight and very wet after a little stroking. She likes it and trembles a bit, but keeps glancing at the little window. So, these are my girls for now. You can find your own, or try one of mine. If you do, I ask you for 2 things: 1. Treat them nicely and 2. Recommend new ones for me.[/QUOTE]So I went into Royal Rose today. Nice clean premises. A range of ticket prices. From VND120k for 1 hour up to VND250k for 90 mins. I went for the 1 hour this being the first visit. Decided to try my luck and went random. Received Tuoi as a masseuse. Nice girl, probably rates a 6. Not skinny, not too short and pretty enough. Very little English, might be better English range in the evenings. The uniforms are not very friendly for us blokes. Pants and top, ao dai style. Massage was acceptable, even parts of it pretty good. Not much in the way of chemistry going on. Got towards the end and the expected question. Then tip negotiation, which truly spoiled it for me. HJ was ok. Nothing special. Tuoi keen on giving me her number for a hotel meeting. Got the number, unsure whether I would proceed.

Overall, good venue. Will return and get different girl I think.

On Hang Chuoi, number fifty something on left walking away from centre. This is a nice upmarket option costing double the normal price, so 400+. Very nice and clean. I was treated very well by Van, number 11. Petite, pretty and speaks English. No unseemly talk of money, as it is assumed you'll tip. Nice HJ but no kissing or groping. At least not this time. This is a place to unwind in a civilised way. If you want something raunchy and dirty, go one block up to number 28, which has nice girls but costs more than the standard blow and go joints. 400 plus tip. This street is handy for opera house, Hiton etc so you can often get here quickly from business functions.

A few times people have mentioned Tam Quat places way out on Pham Van Dong. I had occasion to be out that way yesterday for a meeting so decided to give one of them a shot. I randomly went into number 136. Nice girl waved me in, her name is Hien. Parked my bike well inside. She was all on her own so locked the security door as we went in.

I was set for a massage and HJ with the possibility of a BJ. As soon as I got undressed she lay down next to me and kissed me. No sign of any massage. Immediately she indicated FS was on offer. I quickly accepted and we agreed on 500k. No unreasonable bargaining, I could probably have got lower but decided not to. She promptly stripped off and had me play with her while she got me ready and slipped on a condom. She was lovely and wet, really nice and enjoyed being played with. Beautiful breasts too. More kissing while we played with each other then she climbed on top and went for it. OMG! She was awesome. Needless to say I soon popped good and proper. She gently cleaned me off and stroked me before getting dressed. I got dressed, paid and she got my bike out for me.

Totally surprised. In the best possible way. Going back there for sure. She's lovely, attractive to look at, not skeleton skinny and very willing. The room has comfortable soft mattress on the floor. Seeing I was the only one there it all felt just fine.

Highly recommended.

Went back again today to see if it was merely a lucky shot or if there is anything in this. Firstly, my numbering sucks. Typically the numbering is pretty ordinary and it's more like 156 Pham Van Dong. Apologies to anybody lead astray. Rocked up and she was there again. Called me in, showed she was happy to see me. Very different this time. Slower, tenderer, more like a lover than a banger. Spent a good 30 minutes there and came away damn happy. Same price, much more intimate service, no doubt she is happy to make extra dong than a standard massage and she certainly seems to enjoy herself, allowing for acting and all that.

Judging by the reaction of the women from places nearby, they will also offer the same service if you want it. They all seem keen to hook-up with the white dude getting it on next door!

Happy punting everyone.

[QUOTE=Doppel One; 1101901]My advice. Stray towards the smaller provincial towns and seek out a mamasan or papasan who speaks English (if you don't speak Vietnamese) and make friends with them. Then, things start to happen and the quality of the girls improves.

This girl was fun. I paid the house 200K and tipped her 50K (she was happy with that). That's for ST.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=142968&d=1292124248[/url][/QUOTE]Does anyone know of any girls in Hanoi who look like this girl? I'm here for another few days, and would love to meet exactly this type of girl. Slim, pretty and with big firm boobs.

Any details, addresses, contact information or more info is helpful.

Thanks!

I woke up horny on a Sunday morning and decided to head down to Pham Van Dong and see if I could find any action. I'm pleased to say that although not as busy as in the evening, I was still able to find a few places with girls sitting outside at 11am. You have to keep more of an eye out than in the evenings, but you can still find them. They don't try to wave you in at that time of the day, but just keep an eye out for one or two girls sitting in their doorway for no particular reason and you know you've found the spot.

I went to 237 Pham Van Dong (I made a point of checking the number on my way out). There were a few other places either side of this one with girls sitting in the doorway. I saw a couple of girls sitting at this address, smiled at them and they got up and let me drive my motorbike inside. They then closed the shutter door behind me and motioned me inside. The working girl seemed quite amused and excited to be having a foreigner come in. We went into the next room and she dropped the curtain around the bed. I liked this place immediately because there was only one bed, so you're never going to be dealing with company while doing your business.

It was a double mattress so plenty of room. It was straight off with our clothes and no questions about what I wanted. This is a FS place. The girl was nice and slender, with a great little arse and perky little B-Cup breasts. She straddles me and starts stroking my cock to get me hard while I'm sucking on her tits; none of it seemed particularly forced or rushed. When I was nice and hard, she slipped on a condom and started to slide down on my cock. She was very tight and struggled to cope with getting my cock inside her. But I was pleased that despite her finding it very uncomfortable, unlike other girls I've come across, she persisted until she had all of me inside her.

She then gave me a really good performance, riding me good and hard for around ten minutes, with no signs of complaint that I was taking too long. I finally shot my load and again in another nice touch, she didn't rush for me to get my cock out of her, but allowed me to stay inside her while I finished pumping my load and catching my breath. She then got off me, slid the condom off and gently clean off my cock with tissues. It was only afterwards that I realised that we'd gone through the whole show and money hadn't been mentioned once. A very refreshing change. I decided to forgo any haggling over prices that might spoil my now very good mood, so gave her 500, 000 VND which she seemed happy with, and I was out the door and on my way again.

I'm very pleased that I've now found at least one place in Hanoi that is offering FS guaranteed, no guessing about what service you are going to get. I haven't checked out the other places nearby yet, but guessing that they would also have to offer FS, otherwise I doubt they'd be in business next door to somewhere that is. I'll let you know as I try them out.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins;1214654]I went to 237 Pham Van Dong (I made a point of checking the number on my way out). There were a few other places either side of this one with girls sitting in the doorway. I saw a couple of girls sitting at this address, smiled at them and they got up and let me drive my motorbike inside.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=CaseyStar;1212092]Went back again today to see if it was merely a lucky shot or if there is anything in this. Firstly, my numbering sucks. Typically the numbering is pretty ordinary and it's more like 156 Pham Van Dong. Apologies to anybody lead astray.[/QUOTE]Richard D and Casey. Thanks for the great intel, but I could use some help. I'll be stuck over on that side of Hanoi and I want to try to find this area with the walk up FS places. I tried mapping these places but Pham Van Dong is a really long street and when I put in street numbers I'm getting different places show up that don't make sense.

I'll either be using taxis or on foot, so it's not like I can just easily cruise up and down the street looking for these places, but I would love to check them out.

Can you help out with a cross street or other reference so I at least know the general area? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Pablo;1215341]Can you help out with a cross street or other reference so I at least know the general area? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I get to Pham Van Dong by driving along the dyke road (An Duong Vuong) and then turning left into Tan Xuan just as you pass under the Thang Long bridge over the river. You then turn right when Tan Xuan intersects with Pham Van Dong. You then need to go along Pham Van Dong and make a U-turn at the first break in the dividing barrier and head back the way you came. And you will find 237 after 100 metres or so. If you get to a petrol station after doing your U-turn, then you have already gone past it.

If that's too tricky to explain to a taxi driver, then just get him to let you out at the intersection and walk up the road against the flow of traffic, it'll only take a few minutes to walk it, and probably makes it a little easier to spot the places too.

There were definitely a few places before 237, after doing your U-turn, I couldn't say with any certainty if there are any places after 237. I've put a Google maps link below to help you with my directions. Best of luck, let us know how you get on.

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?q=pham[/url]+van+dong, +hanoi&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=21. 077282, 105. 786903&spn=0. 002688, 0.005284&sll=37. 0625-95. 677068&sspn=38. 963048, 86. 572266&vpsrc=6&hq=pham+van+dong, &hnear=Hanoi, +Ho%C3%A0n+Ki%E1%BA%BFm, +Hanoi, +Vietnam&t=m&z=18

[QUOTE=Pablo;1215341]Richard D and Casey. Thanks for the great intel, but I could use some help.[/QUOTE]My area is way down the other end, adjacent to the intersection with Hoang Quoc Viet. There's a group of several Tam Quat places and a few VIP massage / Karaoke places as well.

I have yet to try 237 but it's definitely on my radar.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins;1215360]I get to Pham Van Dong by driving along the dyke road (An Duong Vuong) and then turning left into Tan Xuan just as you pass under the Thang Long bridge over the river. You then turn right when Tan Xuan intersects with Pham Van Dong. You then need to go along Pham Van Dong and make a U-turn at the first break in the dividing barrier and head back the way you came. And you will find 237 after 100 metres or so.[/QUOTE]Richard D, many thanks. It took a bit of work since I'm not familiar at all with the city, but google maps worked. It looks like there's a computer shop (baotin. Tk/) nearby that popped up on the google search so I printed the front page with the address I can give to the cabbie. It's a pretty simple trip from my hotel (one turn and only 5km from my hotel) so even with almost zero experience in the city I'll know if the taxi is going in the right direction. I'm pretty sure I can find it.

Any idea of how late they're open? I arrive late at night and I know I'll want to do something when I arrive. Or I'll find a club the first night but I'm way behind on my research, time to get busy! Thanks again, and I'll report back if I make it there.

[QUOTE=CaseyStar;1215420]My area is way down the other end, adjacent to the intersection with Hoang Quoc Viet. There's a group of several Tam Quat places and a few VIP massage / Karaoke places as well.[/QUOTE]Casey, thanks. This is actually way closer to my hotel, in fact it's within walking distance or a short and direct taxi ride.

If I come walking down Hoang Quoc Viet, which way do I turn on Pham Van Dong? I'm interested in the other establishments too since it's close to where I'm at. Thanks a lot again and I'll report back.

[QUOTE=Pablo;1215985]Any idea of how late they're open? I arrive late at night and I know I'll want to do something when I arrive. Or I'll find a club the first night but I'm way behind on my research, time to get busy! Thanks again, and I'll report back if I make it there.[/QUOTE]Hi Pablo,

To avoid confusion between the places I described and the ones Casey is talking about, mine are not Tam Quats or any other sort of massage places. At this end of Pham Van Dong they are just private residences or other non-descript buildings with no signage whatsoever to identify them; hence my having to give a rather detailed description of how to get there and giving the number. And just as a heads up, please be aware that these places tend to be a little bit grotty and dingy; you'll definitely be slumming it in terms of conditions, but to me that just adds to the fun of it a bit.

If you are going there at night, your life should be made a little easier in finding this place in that the girls will be more likely to actively wave you inside. As I said before, just be sure to make eye contact and smile with women who seem to be hanging around in their doorways for no particular reason and you'll know you found the right sort of place. The one I described has the traditional blue background with white numbered sign next to the doorway, so you'll know for sure if you find it.

As for what times this place will be open, your guess is as good as mine since it's not a business with opening hours displayed, however I think it's a safe bet that they will be open late at night. How late is a bit more tricky. Since most bars have to close around 11pm, I'd say that business probably slows to a halt around 1 or 2am.

I'd suggest doing your best to find the exact one (237) that I went to, since you'll be sure of what is on offer, as I have had varying results from place along this road.

If you plan to try and find a girl in a club, then your only real choice is Nutz Bar at the Sheraton Hotel. Directions are easy enough to find so I won't repeat them here. Read back a few pages and you'll see a variety of both successful and unsuccessful outings that people have had here. Whether you can take them back to your hotel or have to find a short time hotel nearby (the girl would do that) will depend on which hotel you are staying at; if it's 4 star or above then the chances are it won't be GF. There are a couple of other clubs around (that are very very difficult to find) that some people say working girls hang out, but I've been to these places before, and while not actively looking at the time, I didn't really see any evidence of working girls plying their trade.

I popped into this place thanks to Joffre's suggestion since I was in the area yesterday lunchtime. The service was pretty much as he described, I think I even got the same girl as him, nice set of knockers. I got taken into the back, stripped off and the girl pulled down her top and dropped her shorts so that I could play around while she got me nice and hard. Then she gave me a thorough cleaning with wet wipes before starting to give me a BBBJ. This was interspersed with a lot of hand work, and she let me finger her during the whole event. She finished me off with her hands and then I was dressed and out of the door. I got charged 300, 000 VND for the service as I couldn't be bothered trying to argue over the difference in price between myself and Joffre.

If I was in the area, I might go here again, but would probably try out a few of the other places on this street first. Certainly not worth going out of your way to get here, but a useful tension reliever if you happen to be nearby.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins;1216042]To avoid confusion between the places I described and the ones Casey is talking about, mine are not Tam Quats or any other sort of massage places. At this end of Pham Van Dong they are just private residences or other non-descript buildings with no signage whatsoever to identify them; hence my having to give a rather detailed description of how to get there and giving the number. And just as a heads up, please be aware that these places tend to be a little bit grotty and dingy; you'll definitely be slumming it in terms of conditions, but to me that just adds to the fun of it a bit.[/QUOTE]Once again thanks for the info. I think I understand the difference between the places you're describing on PVD and the ones further south that Casey is describing. Like you, I don't mind getting a bit low down and dirty sometime, in fact sometimes that's just what I'm looking for. I hope I can make it up there.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins;1216042]If you plan to try and find a girl in a club, then your only real choice is Nutz Bar at the Sheraton Hotel. There are a couple of other clubs around (that are very very difficult to find) that some people say working girls hang out, but I've been to these places before, and while not actively looking at the time, I didn't really see any evidence of working girls plying their trade.[/QUOTE]Since I'm staying near Pham Van Dong, Nutz looks like it's a pretty long haul across the city. Since like you said it seems to be an easy place for visitors like me, I'll probably end up there. I actually like the slightly older ladies sometimes too. I can't go back to my hotel anyway because it's filled with my colleagues and it wouldn't be cool if they happened into the lobby while I was walking a WG thru it on the way to my room.

I read thru 2 years of Hanoi posts and you summed it up well. There isn't much action here for the visitor who doesn't know his way around and doesn't speak the language. Nothing like the Philippines and Thailand where I usually go anyway. Fortuna and the Oasis massage places, Nutz and these smaller massage places and walk ups. I have low expectations but I'm hoping for 1 or 2 good experiences.

I read about some clubs closer to my hotel before I just have to look them up again, I might end up at one of those too.

Thanks again.

[QUOTE=Pablo; 1215986]Casey, thanks. This is actually way closer to my hotel, in fact it's within walking distance or a short and direct taxi ride.

If I come walking down Hoang Quoc Viet, which way do I turn on Pham Van Dong? I'm interested in the other establishments too since it's close to where I'm at. Thanks a lot again and I'll report back.[/QUOTE]Walk to the end of HQV, cross over the road to the far side of PVD and turn left. About 100 metres on you will start to see a few places with women waving you in as well as the VIP massage outfits.

I find these places great during the day, can't speak for evenings. Between about number 156 and 124 there are 6-8 different small places for massage, BJ and the like. If they like you they will offer FS. Good luck. My advice, if you look into a place, go out the back and check the facilities. Some have rock hard 'beds' in a row where there will be several punters at once. Not my scene. I prefer the smaller places with something soft to play on.

If you're arriving late and want night action, you could head over to To Ngoc Van lane 52, where there are several Nha Nghi small hotels, of which some are brothels. The ones with guys outside waving you in. Mainly active at night, and fairly discreet. Haven't tried myself, but this would be higher class than Pham Van Dong (anything would be!) but lower and cheaper and a lot less hassle than Nutz.

Again thanks for the info. I think I understand the difference between the places you're describing on PVD and the ones further south that Casey is describing. Like you, I don't mind getting a bit low down and dirty sometime, in fact sometimes that's just what I'm looking for. I hope I can make it up there.

Since I'm staying near Pham Van Dong, Nutz looks like it's a pretty long haul across the city. Since like you said it seems to be an easy place for visitors like me, I'll probably end up there. I actually like the slightly older ladies sometimes too. I can't go back to my hotel anyway because it's filled with my colleagues and it wouldn't be cool if they happened into the lobby while I was walking a WG thru it on the way to my room.

I read thru 2 years of Hanoi posts and you summed it up well. There isn't much action here for the visitor who doesn't know his way around and doesn't speak the language. Nothing like the Philippines and Thailand where I usually go anyway. Fortuna and the Oasis massage places, Nutz and these smaller massage places and walk ups. I have low expectations but I'm hoping for 1 or 2 good experiences.

I read about some clubs closer to my hotel before I just have to look them up again, I might end up at one of those too.

Thanks again.[/QUOTE]

Sounds familiar. If I had the language, I'd tell her to take her time and I'll pay double! As I've said before, Trang at number 26 is my top choice, and I have been known to cross the city Just to feast at her Y. She is always very happy to see me, but I'm not sure if that's due to my skilful tongue or the generous tip. Maybe both.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins; 1216054]I popped into this place thanks to Joffre's suggestion since I was in the area yesterday lunchtime. The service was pretty much as he described, I think I even got the same girl as him, nice set of knockers. I got taken into the back, stripped off and the girl pulled down her top and dropped her shorts so that I could play around while she got me nice and hard. Then she gave me a thorough cleaning with wet wipes before starting to give me a BBBJ. This was interspersed with a lot of hand work, and she let me finger her during the whole event. She finished me off with her hands and then I was dressed and out of the door. I got charged 300, 000 VND for the service as I couldn't be bothered trying to argue over the difference in price between myself and Joffre.

If I was in the area, I might go here again, but would probably try out a few of the other places on this street first. Certainly not worth going out of your way to get here, but a useful tension reliever if you happen to be nearby.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaseyStar; 1216308]Walk to the end of HQV, cross over the road to the far side of PVD and turn left. About 100 metres on you will start to see a few places with women waving you in as well as the VIP massage outfits.

I find these places great during the day, can't speak for evenings. Between about number 156 and 124 there are 6-8 different small places for massage, BJ and the like. If they like you they will offer FS. Good luck. My advice, if you look into a place, go out the back and check the facilities. Some have rock hard 'beds' in a row where there will be several punters at once. Not my scene. I prefer the smaller places with something soft to play on.[/QUOTE]Thanks, all good tips. I really prefer FS to just a BJ, but I know nothing guaranteed at these places. I'll report back and try to remember the street numbers.

Hey!

Yesterday, I just discovered on my way from my trip a street full of Tam quat! I was amazed! Didn't try there yet but am sure it's worth something to check it out! The name of that street is Tham trinh! You need to start from the hoang mai district and not by Minh kai and it's a one way street, because of the long and narrow stream of water in the middle who separate the street. So you need to do the turn by the other street.

If you want also they have some tham quat in Pham Ngoc Thach in one of the alley! If you arrive from Xa Dan, turn to pham ngoc Thach and goes to the first alley or second alley! I used to take Phuong! She's small but she rides well!

Went to Pham Van Dong to try again the scene over there! But late at night. Only blow job place for a total of 200k and you don't tips over there! Went to thoses places because a truck driver stole the girl of one of thoses houses that was still open.

Will ty to go back again during this week!

Hope this info will help you guyz!

If you have any info about mature womens, share it in the forum!

So I just arrived in Hanoi and this time my hotel driver mentions that several of the KTV / Karaoke places are good for P4P. He even said $50 for full service ST, which sounds a little steep of VN but not bad. Any of you guys living in Hanoi have any experience with full service at a KTV joint. I have gone to some of the Jap / Korean places near the Daiwoo and while they were skimpily dressed, anything other than looking was off the table for in-house consumption with most girls not interested in off sight freelance.

I assume not all Tam Quat offer extra services or do they? I see that there is a Tam Quat near the Galaxy Hotel, does anyone have any experience with this place? If I can find the time I will try to check it out.

First thanks to everyone who helped me out with the tips. Unfortunately, my Vietnamese work colleagues ended up taking me out almost every night so I didn't get to sample nearly all the places I wanted to.

I arrived mid evening Saturday night and it was midnight by the time I was checked into my hotel and cleaned up and ready to go out. I asked the guy at the front desk where I could go for a beer and he actually said 'everything is already closed'. At midnight on Saturday night? So I walked out and took a stroll down to Pham Van Dong to check out the massage places CaseyStar recommended. Sure enough, everything was closed so night one was a complete bust.

Night 2 after we had dinner and drinks I was brought to a massage place in the old part of town but it wasn't one of the ones everyone talks abut on here. The name is Hoang Kim at 121 Phung Hung St, but wasn't very good. It had pretty much the same MO as the other places described on here. I disrobed and started with the sauna which was intense enough that I almost had to end it early. Then the really cute girl gave me a bath, but not like in Thailand where she's in the tub with you which is really great. She was still fully clothed in her shorts and t-shirt and washed me from outside the tub, which was still pretty cool. I then got a good massage and on the flip I started to play around and she was OK with it. I actually unhooked her bra twice and played with her tits but both times she buttoned back up after a few minutes and pointed out the pretty big window in the door. She then let me do some serious fingering of her super wet pussy and I think she was close to coming when she finally pulled away. From there we bargained for a HJ finish, and I tried pretty hard bargaining but the lowest I could get it was 500K which I knew was too much, but with a pretty young thing stroking away, I had no bargaining leverage and I OK'ed the finish at that price. The other thing that sort of sucked was I paid for 90 Minutes and I was back out in the lobby in maybe 70 minutes and had to wait quite a while for my colleagues to finish up. Overall, I'd not go back and suggest everyone use the places recommended on this site instead.

My 3rd night night dinner ended early enough so I hit Nutz which was only about a 120K taxi ride away. I arrived about 9:30 and it was pretty dead, but after 10pm some talent started showing up. I ended up with a tall girl who at first I thought could be a ladyboy and in fact there were several taller girls there who raised my suspicions. But I ended up taking her out to the nearby hotel and after a thorough inspection she was for sure a girl-girl, just tall. I had an OK time with her, she was really pretty just not particularly skilled. She did ask for US $150 at first too but was OK with half that which I think is still overpaying. The hotel was a real dump too but she did give me a ride partway back to my hotel on her motorbike.

The 4th night was a late night out drinking with my colleagues and I was all primed for my last night, but I think the street food caught up with me as I was sick all day. I had plans for a day time stop at one of the Pham Van Dong places and then something else at night, but the best I could do was to hit the massage place in my hotel. I didn't even think I'd be up (literally) for anything, but the cute masseuse worked a HJ so the day wasn't a complete bust.

Overall, I see what everyone says that Hanoi can be tough for visitors especially when we're used to the ease of getting great services in places like Thailand and the Philippines. I know I'll be back to Hanoi soon though, so I'm determined to make the next trip better. I know I didn't hit the best places and overpaid at the ones I did go to. Thanks again for the tips guys even I was only able to put a few of them to use.

Hey guys,

I forgot my password and so did not log in for quite sometime, but tonight was lucky to be able to finally login, hihi.

Anyway, I have a spot to recommend you guys to try. Go to this street Pho Vong. It is in Bach Mai area. If you go around 10pm at night, you will see a few shops with soft lights. Its BJ joints. If I remember correctly, there is a 176 unit.

So if you guys try any of those, please post FR here.

The last time I brought some friends there, they were escorted upstairs, had a BJ and done in about 20 mins. Total damage was VND250k all-in, and that was about a year ago.

[QUOTE=Deptrai; 1222310]Hey guys,

I forgot my password and so did not log in for quite sometime, but tonight was lucky to be able to finally login, hihi.

Anyway, I have a spot to recommend you guys to try. Go to this street Pho Vong. It is in Bach Mai area. If you go around 10pm at night, you will see a few shops with soft lights. Its BJ joints. If I remember correctly, there is a 176 unit.

So if you guys try any of those, please post FR here.

The last time I brought some friends there, they were escorted upstairs, had a BJ and done in about 20 mins. Total damage was VND250k all-in, and that was about a year ago.[/QUOTE]I tried one of those two months ago! I paid VND300k! It was a good!

Between 436 and 450 Minh Kai street, they have 3 massage place! I've been to one of those with red light! Good massage and I paid VND100K for the hour massage and tips VND200K for her skillful HANDJOB!

3 months ago I met this girl from Hanoi at the Beach Club in Kuala Lumpur. She had just arrived, I picked her up at the bar and brought her back to my hotel, she stayed until morning and appeared to like me a lot. We did have a very good session and exchanged email addresses. She explained that she is a hairdresser in Hanoi, came to KL upon the recommendation of a friend to make quick money so as to open her own salon. But she did not like the Beach Club Experience at all and left back to VN within a matter of days.

Well, this girl has been writing to me just about every day for the last 3 months, sending me love declarations. I finally got an opportunity and told her I would come to Hanoi for the week-end, would she like to see me? Yes of course. So here I get to Hanoi and she is at the airport waiting for me with roses and a car, explaining on the way to the hotel how she is so emotioned and crying of happiness. To my surprise we had no difficulty checking in together at the Hilton and we had an absolutely amazing GFE week-end, half of it in bed and half of it going out to a couple restaurants, a disco etc. She quickly learned what I like and would just do it every time. I was afraid she might be nuts, but in fact she is just a beautiful and very down to earth girl, who bargained prices for me and was everything I could hope for. I certainly wish to see her again. From KL to Hanoi life can be full of surprises sometimes and I still believe treating a girl well is the way to the most gratifying encounters, sexual and otherwise.

Being in the neighborhood, I dropped in here yesterday. Had fairly low expectations and figured I'd be in for a quick tug and out again.

Must have struck a quiet moment. Parked the bike and the door was opened by a cute little woman with a big smile. She ushered me in and took me out the back. Now, this is a small place, with just a few 'tables' each curtained off. A couple of guys are playing on a computer near the front door and a couple of other girls are about.

This girl, Lien, was cute as a button and very enthusiastic. She had me strip off, get ob the table and then climbed on with me. No hint of any kind of massage. She cuddled up and made herself fully available for me to play with at my leisure. Kissing, pretty much anything. After a long time when it was clear I was more than ready, she climbed down, lifted up her top, grabbed a stool and put one leg up so I had very clear pussy access and proceeded to get me off. She encouraged and happily took two fingers inside her and had me finger fuck her till she came. Very wet, very sexy.

Once we had finished, she cleaned me up and we sat there. Then the other two girls came in for a chat. Thao and Ly. Ly is older but still attractive, Thao is in the middle and hot! I sat there naked and we all chatted for another 10 minutes or so, them being happy for me to play with them as well. Lien claims she is 22 and she might be. Thao speaks some English, Ly speaks a lot of English and did some translating.

This was all very good fun and I was in there for around 30-40 minutes all up. When I decided to go, I paid Lien 300k which seemed fair for all the attention I received. I'm definitely going back and exploring FS with these girls. They certainly all seem up for it.

[QUOTE=CaseyStar; 1224021]Being in the neighborhood, I dropped in here yesterday. Had fairly low expectations and figured I'd be in for a quick tug and out again.

Must have struck a quiet moment. Parked the bike and the door was opened by a cute little woman with a big smile. She ushered me in and took me out the back. Now, this is a small place, with just a few 'tables' each curtained off. A couple of guys are playing on a computer near the front door and a couple of other girls are about.

This girl, Lien, was cute as a button and very enthusiastic. She had me strip off, get ob the table and then climbed on with me. No hint of any kind of massage. She cuddled up and made herself fully available for me to play with at my leisure. Kissing, pretty much anything. After a long time when it was clear I was more than ready, she climbed down, lifted up her top, grabbed a stool and put one leg up so I had very clear pussy access and proceeded to get me off. She encouraged and happily took two fingers inside her and had me finger fuck her till she came. Very wet, very sexy.

Once we had finished, she cleaned me up and we sat there. Then the other two girls came in for a chat. Thao and Ly. Ly is older but still attractive, Thao is in the middle and hot! I sat there naked and we all chatted for another 10 minutes or so, them being happy for me to play with them as well. Lien claims she is 22 and she might be. Thao speaks some English, Ly speaks a lot of English and did some translating.

This was all very good fun and I was in there for around 30-40 minutes all up. When I decided to go, I paid Lien 300k which seemed fair for all the attention I received. I'm definitely going back and exploring FS with these girls. They certainly all seem up for it.[/QUOTE]I just got back from this place after searching in Google Map (I hope I got it right)

Save the map on my Iphone and hop on to the taxi and show that pic to him.

When I reach there, it was quite dark and no sign activity.

I actually reached there around 10. 45pm (local time)

Did I went there too late?

[QUOTE=Akane5555; 1224943]I just got back from this place after searching in Google Map (I hope I got it right)

Save the map on my Iphone and hop on to the taxi and show that pic to him.

When I reach there, it was quite dark and no sign activity.

I actually reached there around 10. 45pm (local time)

Did I went there too late?[/QUOTE]I think 1045 may be a bit too late for Doc Ngu, but should be just right for Thuy Khue street which is not too far from Doc Ngu. U can walk to Thuy Khue from Doc Ngu.

There are quite a few B&G places around the Somerset Westlake hotel / apartment.

Saturday night, I went to the Club Green- Massage-Sauna-Jacuzzi massage place in 34A ngo 120 Truong Chinh. I paid 220 for 80 mins. The massage was good! The girl that I got was a Saigonese and I didn't undersatnd fuck all about what she said. But I play a lot with her especially when she told me where do you want me to massage you! Hahaha I played the dumb guy and after severall minutes she just remove my cock from the massage boxer! Only Handjob is available but I am sure if you take the phone number of the girl you can have FS because just beside it they have 1 nha nghi! It was great!

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins; 1202723]I found an interesting little place on Dong Tac the other day. Drive along Pham Ngoc Thach until you get to the traffic lights near to where the star bowl used to be. Turn left at the lights and you'll see a sign advertising massages on the right, follow the sign down an alley about 30m down the road.

The place is definitely for the locals. Ticket price was 100k VND. Had a quick shower in a grotty little cubicle and then put on the massage shorts and was led to the room. The room was reasonable, aircon split between two rooms and a fan. The door to the massage room has a small window in it, so only HJs are possible.

The woman that serviced me was on the larger side, but had a nice big pair of boobs. My shorts stayed on for all of 5 minutes and she spent the whole hour giving me a very sensuous massage with lots of anal play and brushing against my cock to get me excited. She then gave me a great HJ without trying to negotiate for a tip.

When it was all over I tipped her 200k VND. I think she would have been happy with much less, but I thought her performance merited that much. I'd return again if I happened to be in the area, and I'd hope to get the same woman again. Didn't see any of the other girls, so can't tell you if there are any better looking women than her.[/QUOTE]I went there Friday! Like Richard Dawkins said, I paid 100k VND. I got a girl with big boobs. It was big enough to pop out of her bra during the massage! The massage was ok, but she compensated with a good handjob skills! I tipped 100k! She was happy! Am sure they are available also for FS because you park your motobike in a Nha Nghi!

I mentioned this place in a report a while back, although at the time I didn't have the number of the place to report, so I thought I would provide an update.

I headed out to Pham Van Dong after pub kick-out time recently and was hoping to hit my favourite FS place at No. 237, however at this time of night (after 11pm) that part of the street seems to have shut down already. So I continued on down the road and found this place still open. This is another non-descript house that you can only tell because there is a girl outside waving you in. I've been there a few time recently and still found it open well after midnight.

Most times I've been here it has just been the one girl there working on her own, but I have been there when there were two of them. Inside there are two massage type tables separated by curtains.

This is a BBBJ joint and nothing else, I've tried on several occasions to see if FS is on offer, but it definitely isn't. The girl I always go for (whose name I don't know I'm afraid) has a great set of knockers and is happy for you to play around everywhere, lifting up her top and dropping her trousers to allow you easy access. There is also plenty of DFK and general play too. When she gets down to business, she really doesn't hold back. She's got a mouth like a hoover and will work very very hard to get you off with a blow job, not like a lot of girls who try to do most of the work with their hands.

If she's knows you're about to cum, then she will finish you off with her hand and cum on your stomach, but she's missed the warning signs with me before and taken CIM. She obviously doesn't enjoy this, but didn't make a big fuss about it and was still friendly with me afterwards.

I don't know if it is because I am a regular with her now, but she never seems to rush me, and there is always plenty of time for kissing and cuddling and general intimacy both before and after the event, I think that is why I keep going back to her. The price is normally 300, 000 VND and she normally asks for an extra 100, 000 VND tip afterwards. Given how much fun she is, I'm always happy to give that, and the time she took CIM, I rounded it up to 500, 000 VND.

Thanks bro Deptrai, I didn't know you are a member in ISG too!

I pm'ed you in SBF.

Anyway, since my failed attempt to explore this place on the first night.

On the 2nd night, I ended my work early and took a taxi from Horison Hanoi and I reached there earlier than last night.

It was around 9pm.

I walked around there, in front of the [I]house[/I] Number 6. Doesn't seen to have a girl in front of the [I]house[/I] Waving at me.

Only a motorcycle parked in front.

Muster up some courage, I walked into the [I]house[/I], through the wooden doors.

Inside, I see 2 girls playing PC. 1 is chatting and the other (cuter one) is playing some online game.

There 3 girls (chubby) lying the bed. I can see that the bed are only partitioned by curtains.

They looked at me while I looked at them in surprised.

I spoke "massage?", and they just giggle.

The chubby ones lying on the bed as the cuter girl (whom is playing the online game) to so called-massage me.

She was cute, but also chubby. Since I am all this way here, I shouldn't leave and try to go through the experience.

She brought me to the last bed. Sadly, she can't speak English. More of like duck and chicken talking.

To be honest, I have no idea what to do or what to expect in a [I]Tam Quat[/I] Shop.

I stripped to my birthday suit after she seal the partition with the curtains, and I lied facing down.

She entered, asked me to flip over and put on my underwear.

I hug her as she hug me a bit. Try to FK her but she moved away, lightly pecked on her cheek and neck area.

Then she point to her mouth and later to my genital, signaling me for a BJ.

While BJ, she lift up her shirts to allow me to grope her breast (33B like that)

Her BJ was short, followed by HJ.

I couldn't cum.

Fed up. Luckly I brought a condom with me just in case. I asked for a FJ.

She asked for 500, 000 for her and 100, 000 for [I]entrance fee[/I]

I tried to negotiate to 400, 000 but she refuse.

I finally accepted her offer and put on the condom and fuck her silently.

Deed done, she clean it with wet tower, I paid her and paid to the chubby lady who is chatting on PC.

She looks like the mamasan of this [I]house[/I]

As I leave, the other chubby girls teased me, saying "bye. Bye"

That was the only English words they know.

Took a taxi back to hotel, along the way, saw a big signboard which says "VIP MASSAGE", just a minute walk away from Horison.

In front of the hotel, there is this cafe "I Love Friday Cafe", a few steps from it is another signboard which says "TAM QUAT".

My question is:

1- What's the difference between VIP Massage and TAM QUAT.

2- is Tam Quat is HJ place. BJ place or FJ place.

I read other reports, they are lucky to have BJ all the way till CIM.

Thanks bro Deptrai, I didn't know you are a member in ISG too!

I pm'ed you in SBF.

Anyway, since my failed attempt to explore this place on the first night.

On the 2nd night, I ended my work early and took a taxi from Horison Hanoi and I reached there earlier than last night.

It was around 9pm.

I walked around there, in front of the [I]house[/I] Number 6. Doesn't seen to have a girl in front of the [I]house[/I] Waving at me.

Only a motorcycle parked in front.

Muster up some courage, I walked into the [I]house[/I], through the wooden doors.

Inside, I see 2 girls playing PC. 1 is chatting and the other (cuter one) is playing some online game.

There 3 girls (chubby) lying the bed. I can see that the bed are only partitioned by curtains.

They looked at me while I looked at them in surprised.

I spoke "massage?", and they just giggle.

The chubby ones lying on the bed as the cuter girl (whom is playing the online game) to so called-massage me.

She was cute, but also chubby. Since I am all this way here, I shouldn't leave and try to go through the experience.

She brought me to the last bed. Sadly, she can't speak English. More of like duck and chicken talking.

To be honest, I have no idea what to do or what to expect in a [I]Tam Quat[/I] Shop.

I stripped to my birthday suit after she seal the partition with the curtains, and I lied facing down.

She entered, asked me to flip over and put on my underwear.

I hug her as she hug me a bit. Try to FK her but she moved away, lightly pecked on her cheek and neck area.

Then she point to her mouth and later to my genital, signaling me for a BJ.

While BJ, she lift up her shirts to allow me to grope her breast (33B like that)

Her BJ was short, followed by HJ.

I couldn't cum.

Fed up. Luckly I brought a condom with me just in case. I asked for a FJ.

She asked for 500, 000 for her and 100, 000 for [I]entrance fee[/I]

I tried to negotiate to 400, 000 but she refuse.

I finally accepted her offer and put on the condom and fuck her silently.

Deed done, she clean it with wet tower, I paid her and paid to the chubby lady who is chatting on PC.

She looks like the mamasan of this [I]house[/I]

As I leave, the other chubby girls teased me, saying "bye. Bye"

That was the only English words they know.

Took a taxi back to hotel, along the way, saw a big signboard which says "VIP MASSAGE", just a minute walk away from Horison.

In front of the hotel, there is this cafe "I Love Friday Cafe", a few steps from it is another signboard which says "TAM QUAT".

My question is:

1- What's the difference between VIP Massage and TAM QUAT.

2- is Tam Quat is HJ place. BJ place or FJ place.

I read other reports, they are lucky to have BJ all the way till CIM.

[QUOTE=Akane5555; 1226184]Thanks bro Deptrai, I didn't know you are a member in ISG too!

I pm'ed you in SBF.[/QUOTE]Ah, so here you are. Hope to meet up with you soon! Meantime, try Pho Vong. U will like it there too! Its BBBJ place.

[QUOTE=Akane5555; 1226184]My question is:

1- What's the difference between VIP Massage and TAM QUAT.

2- is Tam Quat is HJ place. BJ place or FJ place.

I read other reports, they are lucky to have BJ all the way till CIM.[/QUOTE]Hi Akane5555,

Tam Quat is actually a traditional form of Vietnamese massage; although generally most of these places, and certainly all the ones referred to on her are generally just a front for extra services. What that may be will vary from place to place. Some you'll just be able to get HJ, some places BBBJ some CIM others not, and the occasional one that may offer FS.

A VIP massage is normally a longer affair that does involve receiving an actually massage. It will start off with a steam bath and sauna, and then being bathed in a bath and being scrubbed down by your massage girl. This generally isn't as erotic as it sounds, and 99 places out of 100, you'll be wearing shorts while you're in the bath. Then you'll be given your massage for an hour. Some places will then have extras at the end and some won't. Generally I've only found extras in Hanoi to be HJ. That's the same at most massage places as they often have see through windows in the door. Other places that I've written about in the past outside of Hanoi are much more likely to be FS at the end of the massage.

Personally I'm not a big fan of the VIP experience, especially as the language barrier can make everything quite awkward. By all means give these massage places a go, but I'd normally recommend just going for the straight massage and not the VIP treatment. Any extras offered at the end will still be the same.

Anything that you want is available if you look hard enough, and there are plenty of good reports here as a few of us seek out some of the less well travelled spots in this city, however if you are only stuck to getting around by taxi, then that certainly could make it difficult getting to a lot of these places.

I sniffed around looking for the talked about girls. 156 Is a Thai massage place, so I did not go in as I couldn't be bothered with the sauna massage ritual followed by argument over the price of a happy ending. Further down at number 136 a nice looking girl waved me in. Very small hard mattress on the floor. Good points: she did CIM and stripped off a bit. Bad points: no finesse or rapport, really fast and even a bit uncomfortable. I hate the term "gobble" but that is what it was. I would go again only if passing by with 2 minutes to spare. I said before that 62 Doc Ngu is quick, but It's a luxury spa compared to this.

On the way back I saw some ok looking ladies on the right going north at around number 235. Might pop back and look, though that road is bloody dangerous.

When I use google maps for Ngoc Van lane 52, I get many or no options. Could you specify more? I'm arriving in Hanoi late.

[QUOTE=Joffre; 1216379]If you're arriving late and want night action, you could head over to To Ngoc Van lane 52, where there are several Nha Nghi small hotels, of which some are brothels. The ones with guys outside waving you in. Mainly active at night, and fairly discreet. Haven't tried myself, but this would be higher class than Pham Van Dong (anything would be!) but lower and cheaper and a lot less hassle than Nutz.

Again thanks for the info. I think I understand the difference between the places you're describing on PVD and the ones further south that Casey is describing. Like you, I don't mind getting a bit low down and dirty sometime, in fact sometimes that's just what I'm looking for. I hope I can make it up there.

Since I'm staying near Pham Van Dong, Nutz looks like it's a pretty long haul across the city. Since like you said it seems to be an easy place for visitors like me, I'll probably end up there. I actually like the slightly older ladies sometimes too. I can't go back to my hotel anyway because it's filled with my colleagues and it wouldn't be cool if they happened into the lobby while I was walking a WG thru it on the way to my room.

I read thru 2 years of Hanoi posts and you summed it up well. There isn't much action here for the visitor who doesn't know his way around and doesn't speak the language. Nothing like the Philippines and Thailand where I usually go anyway. Fortuna and the Oasis massage places, Nutz and these smaller massage places and walk ups. I have low expectations but I'm hoping for 1 or 2 good experiences.

I read about some clubs closer to my hotel before I just have to look them up again, I might end up at one of those too.

Thanks again.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NiceMusic;1229716]When I use google maps for Ngoc Van lane 52, I get many or no options. Could you specify more? I'm arriving in Hanoi late.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]Ok, so I think this is just a case of you not fully understanding the wonderful Vietnamese street name / numbering thing; it takes a while the get used to it. In this case it appears pretty simple. Go into Google Maps and type "To Ngoc Van, Hanoi" into the search bar (without the quotation marks) and the correct road will pop up. You will then see in the map heading upwards a road running between two lakes called "Ngo 52". Ngo basically means "alley" or "side-street" in Vietnamese, I think it is this "Ngo 52" that Joffre is suggesting that you cruise down to find the action. I haven't been there myself yet, so can't comment on the services.

As a general rule when using Google Maps, at least in Hanoi, never try putting in a number as you will never get an accurate result because the numbering of properties and alleys etc. Is completely screwed up. Find the road you want, try to get some pointers as to where on the street the place you are looking for is, and then just head out there and keep a close eye out for numbers as you drive by.

Feeling horny after a night out and not wanting to make the long journey to Pham Van Dong for my regular BJ, I decided to cruise around and see if I could find some mongering action nearer to where I was. This tip is probably not of use to visitors to Hanoi because it requires a bit of knowledge of the Hanoi area, a motorbike to cruise around on and at least the minimal of negotiating skills in Vietnamese.

I took my bike for a slow drive around the area behind the dyke wall in between Solace bar (formally called Titanic (the boat on the river bar) and Phuc Tan Bar (formally called Lighthouse). Both these places can be located roughly on The New Hanoian if you need pointing to the general area.

I was probably nearer to Solace than I was to Phuc Tan, and had only been cruising for about two minutes when a girl on her motorbike pulled up level with me and asked "Boom boom?" I stopped and asked her how much. She wanted 800k VND, I countered with 400k VND. This went back and fourth for a minute or so but I stuck to 400k and when she refused I just rode off to have a bit more of a hunt. Within about a minute of cruising down a few other alleys, she had caught back up with me and agreed 400k VND and indicated that I should follow her. I then had to do my best Valentino Rossi impression to keep up with her as she darted through a maze of alleys before we ended up at a Nha Nghi.

I had to pay 100k VND for the room to the guy at the desk and then he handed over a condom to the girl and we were up the stairs to our room. The room was reasonable. Once inside the girl takes her pants off, but keeps on her top because she is cold! I then had to basically get myself hard as she didn't play with my cock much. Once I was hard she puts the condom on me, rubs some KY Jelly onto it and laid back. To call her performance starfish like would probably be an insult to some of the other starfishes we have encountered on our adventures. But I got the deed done paid my money and went home a fairly happy camper anyway.

But more generally, I think the fact that the guy at the desk is handing out condoms indicates that there must be a fairly thriving industry in the area and we all know that it is quite luck-of-the-draw what level of service you get from your girl. So I offer up this area as another place worth hunting around if you're in the area and want to get your rocks off.

[QUOTE=NiceMusic;1229716]When I use google maps for Ngoc Van lane 52, I get many or no options. Could you specify more? I'm arriving in Hanoi late.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]Hi, I am local. But due to lgal system here I am not seemed to know many cheap place with young girls. Would you please suggest some near Ho Dac Di?

Due to legal system, I am not seemd to know much about this in Hanoi Although I am a local. Any guide to local is apprecited. Cheap but young cute girl.

Richard Dawkins,

How about foreign girls in Hanoi. How about price and place to find thier service?

How about price and place to play foreign girls in Hanoi?

Had a meeting cancelled near the Opera House today. So thought I'd try my luck at 28 Hang Chuoi. Walked in about 4pm. Two nice girls inside (about 7) , a motorbike, a guy and a young mamasan. I could see the rooms were empty.

Mamasan leaps up. You want massage?

I can speak reasonable Vietnamese. Much giggling and fun. But the gist was this:

Mamasan: You pay USD30.

Me: Too much, how about VND200, 000. I'm talking about just the entrance ticket.

Mamasan: Oh that's silly. OK USD20. That includes the girl.

Me: To be clear, I'll pay VND200, 000 and add tip later.

Mamasan: No the tip is up to you. But you pay me USD20.

Me: Oh too much, perhaps another time.

And that was that. Maybe she would have taken VND300K. Dunno. From her "includes girl" thing (we were in Vietnamese) I can see how maybe the earlier poster thought it was an all-in price only to find a tip was required. I suppose includes girl means some nominal massage, not extras.

I walked, and they were happy to let me go.

Typical Hanoi situation. They had no other business going, but were too stubborn / uncommercial to do a deal. Just not prepared to pay 400K (ie USD20) up front for this place.

Frankly I'm out of touch with Hanoi. I used to be here in the late 1990s. Fond memories of at least 2 or 3 places right in the old quarter where you could have a quiet, sensual full hour including fun for VND100, 000 or so. Ditto some karaoke / cat toc thu gian places just a block south of HK lake. The central places seem to have dried up now.

Planning soon for a trip to Hanoi. Would any one recommend a friendly hotel with a gym? I also prefer hotels near parks?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Deptrai;1226387]Ah, so here you are. Hope to meet up with you soon! Meantime, try Pho Vong. U will like it there too! Its BBBJ place.[/QUOTE]Hi Deptrai,

Sorry for the late response.

I am already back to SG land.

Contact you soon via SBF.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins; 1226402]Hi Akane5555,

Tam Quat is actually a traditional form of Vietnamese massage; although generally most of these places, and certainly all the ones referred to on her are generally just a front for extra services. What that may be will vary from place to place. Some you'll just be able to get HJ, some places BBBJ some CIM others not, and the occasional one that may offer FS.

A VIP massage is normally a longer affair that does involve receiving an actually massage. It will start off with a steam bath and sauna, and then being bathed in a bath and being scrubbed down by your massage girl. This generally isn't as erotic as it sounds, and 99 places out of 100, you'll be wearing shorts while you're in the bath. Then you'll be given your massage for an hour. Some places will then have extras at the end and some won't. Generally I've only found extras in Hanoi to be HJ. That's the same at most massage places as they often have see through windows in the door. Other places that I've written about in the past outside of Hanoi are much more likely to be FS at the end of the massage.

Personally I'm not a big fan of the VIP experience, especially as the language barrier can make everything quite awkward. By all means give these massage places a go, but I'd normally recommend just going for the straight massage and not the VIP treatment. Any extras offered at the end will still be the same.

Anything that you want is available if you look hard enough, and there are plenty of good reports here as a few of us seek out some of the less well travelled spots in this city, however if you are only stuck to getting around by taxi, then that certainly could make it difficult getting to a lot of these places.[/QUOTE]Thanks Richard!

Point noted!

Hi.

Just browsed through this topic from 3 years old posts, still need some advise (not surprizing, really.

I'll be in Hanoi next month for business, and will have to stay in Hanoi Hotel (4*). Is there any "life" just inside this hotel? I mean girls from hotel own nightclub, massage saloon or so. Actually, up to 200$ for overnight in my room going to be reasonable or I'l have to go out looking for pleasure in another place?

And another one. Am I correct that escort sites like vietnamescortservice.com, saigonescorts. Jimdo. Com, tour69 are pure scum? Or anyone had successfull experience with these "service provides"?

Thanks

Hi.

Just browsed through this topic from 3 years old posts, still need some advise (not surprizing, really.

I'll be in Hanoi next month for business, and will have to stay in Hanoi Hotel (4*). Is there any "life" just inside this hotel? I mean girls from hotel own nightclub, massage saloon or so. Actually, up to 200$ for overnight in my room going to be reasonable =) Or I'l have to go out looking for pleasure in another place?

And another one. Am I correct that escort sites like vietnamescortservice. Com, saigonescorts. Jimdo. Com, tour69 are pure scum? Or anyone had successfull experience with these "service providers"?

Thanks

Out and about walking the town in the early afternoon 1pm as a tourist in the area of Hàng &272; &7853; you I finally had time to explore the real Hanoi when I saw a sign advertising VIP Massage. Price at the door was USD20 for a one hour massage. We had some language problems and I wanted to check that it was a female masseuse. This lead the guy to think I wanted more than a massage so he took me across the road to a karaoke lounge where he offered me a girl (via a 2 minute scooter ride) for VND800, 000. That wasn't what I wanted so we headed back across the road and paid my VND400k.

He directed my up the stairs and I went up two flights. On this level there were a number of cubicles with perspex dividers. My hopes were dashed. Although as a punter I couldn't see the other clients lying down, the girls were ale to see each other and chat aloud.

During the downstairs negotiations the guy had been asking about happy ending but I always said I wasn't interested.

The girl was a cute 22year old uni student. Very cute indeed. Good massage technique. Walking on back, serious muscle work on my body. She's rolled me onto my back and giving my scalp a massage and then tweeks my nipple for fun. That can only mean one thing in any language.

Meanwhile in the adjacent cubicle english bf & gf tourist have finished their massage and are being hassled for tips by their massueses. They end up tipping VND200K each. They finish up and the four of them leave the floor. It is just me and my girl now. She politely enquires as to my other needs and offers VND400 for happy ending. I come back at VND200k and she agrees. She was very good about it. A little bit of dry humping on top and plenty of pleasure rubbing. She let me suck her nipples and feel her fanny. All the time she is looking around to make sure nobody is coming up the stairs.

Eventually she moves between my legs and jerks me off inside the supplied boxer shorts. She cleans me up, I get dressed and leave happy.

Thinking back about it, I think she was looking around so much so that the boss didn't know the size of her tip. By keeping the extras to herself, she got to cut the boss out. I assume had I negotiated the happy ending with the boss at the start he would have kept more of the cut.

I enjoyed my time in Hanoi but this was the only action I could find time and arrange away from colleagues. There appeared to be no shortage of attractive, sweet young VN girls.

Interesting too. Any reccomend?

[QUOTE=Zinda; 1233041]Planning soon for a trip to Hanoi. Would any one recommend a friendly hotel with a gym? I also prefer hotels near parks?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

What nationality?

[QUOTE=Aussie Jo; 1238658]Out and about walking the town in the early afternoon 1pm as a tourist in the area of Hàng &272; &7853; you I finally had time to explore the real Hanoi when I saw a sign advertising VIP Massage. Price at the door was USD20 for a one hour massage. We had some language problems and I wanted to check that it was a female masseuse...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cheong777;1240493]What nationality?[/QUOTE]The language problem was between me and the guy on the door. I just wanted to make sure it was a female masseuse that would be doing the massage.

The ultimate girl was nice and VN, to my liking.

[QUOTE=Aussie Jo;1238658]Out and about walking the town in the early afternoon 1pm as a tourist in the area of Hàng &272; &7853;[/QUOTE]Can you write the street names in plain English script? The site doesn't handle Viet text well.

[QUOTE=CaseyStar;1241676]Can you write the street names in plain English script? The site doesn't handle Viet text well.[/QUOTE]The location is getting hazy for me. I was in the centre of this map: [url]http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Ph[/url]%E1%BA%A1m+H%E1%BB%93ng+Th%C3%A1i&daddr=65+Ph%E1%BA%A1m+H%E1%BB%93ng+Th%C3%A1i, +Tr%C3%BAc+B%E1%BA%A1ch, +Ba+%C4%90%C3%ACnh, +H%C3%A0+N%E1%BB%99i, +Vietnam+ (Kh%C3%A1ch+s%E1%BA%A1n+B%C3%A1ch+Trung) &hl=en&ie=UTF8&sll=21. 044903, 105. 843186&sspn=0. 005407, 0.006663&geocode=FagcQQEdiwlPBg%3BFVMcQQEdBQpPBiFJieLhSp6gOA&mra=mift&mrsp=0&sz=17&t=m&z=17

[QUOTE=CaseyStar;1241676]Can you write the street names in plain English script? The site doesn't handle Viet text well.[/QUOTE]As I'm always on the lookout for new places to try out, I've looked around the interweb a bit and the street Aussie Jo referred to in his first post was Hang the. This is much closer to Hoan Kiem Lake that the map link Aussie Jo has provided, and I think far more likely a place that he would have been walking around as a tourist. For future reference, I used this website to help work out what Vietnamese characters have been written that are then displayed incorrectly.

[url]http://www.eki.ee/letter/chardata.cgi?lang=vi[/url]+Vietnamese&script=latin

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins; 1243049]As I'm always on the lookout for new places to try out, I've looked around the interweb a bit and the street Aussie Jo referred to in his first post was Hang the. This is much closer to Hoan Kiem Lake that the map link Aussie Jo has provided, and I think far more likely a place that he would have been walking around as a tourist. For future reference, I used this website to help work out what Vietnamese characters have been written that are then displayed incorrectly.

[url]http://www.eki.ee/letter/chardata.cgi?lang=vi+Vietnamese&script=latin[/url][/QUOTE]I am back from Pattaya where are alot of cute young Russian girls.

Can anynone tell where to find one in Hanoi?

I finally got a chance to try out the Tam Quat at 26 Doc Ngu that Joffre recommended some time back. The girl I got was Mai and she gave a great service. She spoke a decent amount of English that made the whole thing a lot more enjoyable and she had a great attitude. I got to suck on her breast and taste her sweet pussy. Got BJ and finished off with HJ. Price was 100K VND to the house and I tipped her 300K VND for such a good show.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins;1245765]I finally got a chance to try out the Tam Quat at 26 Doc Ngu that Joffre recommended some time back. The girl I got was Mai and she gave a great service. She spoke a decent amount of English that made the whole thing a lot more enjoyable and she had a great attitude. I got to suck on her breast and taste her sweet pussy. Got BJ and finished off with HJ. Price was 100K VND to the house and I tipped her 300K VND for such a good show.[/QUOTE]Yes, I've had Mai a few times, a nice sexy girl who aims to please, and cuter since she got rid of the afro hair. I think she belongs to the place next door, but they give her a shout when a foreigner needs servicing, or in my case when Trang isn't there. Some of the others there aren't worth bothering with, as they think you want a crappy massage followed by mechanical HJ. In all these places the basic service is nothing much, but when you find one who knows what you want and appreciates the regular tip, she'll do amazing things, and you have a better time than in any brothel or MP. So come on guys, share the names and locations of other Mais.

[QUOTE=Towel;1225694]I went there Friday! Like Richard Dawkins said, I paid 100k VND. I got a girl with big boobs. It was big enough to pop out of her bra during the massage! The massage was ok, but she compensated with a good handjob skills! I tipped 100k! She was happy! Am sure they are available also for FS because you park your motobike in a Nha Nghi![/QUOTE]Her name is Thuy and she seems to be making a name for herself. The place is very basic, no sauna or jacuzzi offered nor wanted, and no pretence of proper massage. Just stroking, teasing, touching, rubbing, her hands all over me and my hand stroking her thighs and arse under her dress. She flipped me over, released a large breast for me to suck on (nipple like a wine cork) , and took hold of my cock. I slid a finger into her now wet pussy, and came with a shudder. She held me a while, and then cleaned me up. I had come from a stressful meeting and this was exactly what the doctor ordered. I left happy!

Just as Richard Dawkins said, go down Dong Tac from the top end, follow a big sign saying massage down an alley on the right.

Mentioned in previous reports, I want to Oasis 2 massage at 77 Doc Bac Co (there was some question as to whether there was a "Doc" in the street name and there is. See attached business card with map). You walk through the ground floor restaurant to the elevators in the back and go to the 5th. Floor. The receptionist tried to get me to tip her for bringing a big breasted girl and I played dumb, did not fall for the extortion attempt and she sent her into the room anyway."Lin" or something like that came in put me in the sauna and started filling the jacuzzi tub. She seemed rather disinterested which concerned me but as soon as I got into the tub she turned into the perfect playful, outgoing provider. I usually prefer the more slender type but she was a great combination of voulptuousness and slenderness with an absolutely magnificent natural rack. My hands were welcome anywhere and she seemed to enjoy everything I did with them. Very nice BBBJ and HJ, breasts were popped out for me to do whatever I wanted with them, and she seemed to enjoy the session as much as I did.

Went back and wanted to try a different girl so I got "Huh" (sounded like a grunt while exhaling) , a slender 25 whyear old beauty. She saw much more reserved than Lin and didn't do BJ. Hands were allowed to wander her lovely body an a nice HJ was provided.

As is usually the case, the luck of the draw will determine if you get a great experience like Lin, or a decent but not spectacular one like with Huh. The girls all seem to be 9's and trained to give at least decent performance. Ask for Lin and use hand gestures for big tits and you should have a great time.

hi,

i am a vietnamese. i have been a member of this awesome forum for a quite long time and honestly i must say that thanks so much for its information. i have traveled a lot throughout the world and thank to this website, i had chances to enjoy many interesting services. and now i feel i would be a bad guy if i just get information from you and didn't have anything to share. therefore, i will tell you everything i know about sex services in hanoi. but please keep in mind that the price i mention there is for vietnamese. as a foreigner, maybe they will ask you to pay higher. the girls usually can't speak english. so please practice your negotiation skill and learn a little bit vietnamese before exploring. .

firstly, i will tell about massages services.

1. the most popular massages services in hanoi is "tam quat thu gian". you can find a lot of "tam quat thu gian" shops in vong, truong dinh, thuy khe (google map please).

pros: the price is reasonable. ticket usually is from 100k vn&272; to 150 vn&272; and 100k to 200k for tips. you can get hj, bj and even if you are lucky, handsome, etc you can have a fs.

cons: the girls usually are just acceptable and some of them are very far from pretty (it's just my opnion, a vietnamese viewpoint). rooms are very small and dirty. beware of std, when you have sex or bj you should wear a condom. many people report that they get gonorrhea from these girl after enjoy a bj session.

the most famous shop today: uhm, maybe at 882 truong dinh. this shop is very famous in vietnamese sex guide forum now.

2. if you do not like "tam quat thu gian", you can try normal massage parlors. you can find them everywhere in hanoi, even in luxury hotels.

pros: the girls are more beautiful than the ones in "tam quat thu gian". rooms are also much cleaner. in some hotels, rooms are huge and nice. you also can put the fear of std at home.

cons: you should have a thick pocket before entering these shops. tickets usually from 300k vn&272; to 500k vn&272; but in hotels, it can be 100. 200 usd. the higher ticket fee are, the more the girls ask for tips. in small shops, they can ask for 300k. 500k. 1m but in hotels, they can ask for 2m. however, you often just get hj there. in some very rare cases, girls can offer you a bj but in fact it's forbidden by the shop owners.

luckily, you still can ask the girls their cell phone numbers and after their working time, you can take them to a hotel and have a happy time.

the most famous shop today: i cannot tell which one is the best because there are too many shops like that in hanoi. i just give you some address i know. fortuna hotel, bao son hotel, hanoi hotel, esalen (333 doi can. 6 nghi tam) , kingston (53 hang chuoi) , eden (pham hong thai str) and many others you can find in this thread.

3. under the same banner massage parlor, some shops provide you more interesting services.

+ sakura in vu thach str, you can have two girls bathing, massaging for you and they also provide bj. ticket from 400k. 600k and tips from 500k. 1500k. rooms are large and clean.

+ moscow in f361 an duong str. you and the girls will bath together (they wear bikini). you can have hj, bj (sometimes) or even fs (rarely). ticket: 500k and tips depending on services the girls provide.

+ oasis in cau that, i find that it is quite popular in this thread so i will skip its description.

secondly, some vietnamese men like ktv. karaoke bar with girls are also very popular in hanoi. you can find them in nguyen chi thanh str, au co str. i can say that you can go to any karaoke bars and ask for girls (just ignoring too big karaoke bars or the ones with "karaoke gia dinh" or family karaoke banners).

+ pros: you can easily find a pretty girl in a big number girls they show you. some of them are soooo kuteee. during karaoke time, your hands can travel all over girls' body. they also can provide a strip show (of course, you must pay more). you can ask them for a date at a hotel and have a boom boom session.

+ cons: you should be very careful with the girls if you don't want to pay a big amount of money. girls will open beer bottles as quick as light speed although you cannot drink all. if you can control this problem, you just need to pay around 500k. 700k for a normal session. but if you ask for strip shows? uhm i am not sure, maybe add 500k or 1m, once again it depends on your negotiation skills.

famous ones: well i don't know much because it's not my hobby (i prefer massages and fs.). but nhat thong (in thi sach str) is very famous. girls are very beautiful. however it's very expensive. for a karaoke session with strips show, you may have to pay 2. 3m vnd. consider carefully before visiting.

thirdly, i will tell you about boom boom services. in fact, even for a vietnamese, it's very difficult to find a good-looking girl to have sex if you do not have any contracts. you can find some girls standing in the streets in pham ngu lao or ton dan str. but normally they are old and not pretty. a good place for you to quickly find a girl for having sex is in the base of fortuna hotel. the girls are beautiful, can speak a little bit of english and know well how to satisfy you. however the price are high. you will pay around 200 usd for a fs session. you also can visit some nightclub to find working girls (nutz bar at sheraton hotel, the bar at hanoi hotel and other nite clubs). it can cost you about 100 usd. in my opinion, the best way for you is visiting massage parlors or karaoke bars first, take their phone number and do the rest at a hotel. good luck. .

finally, some of you ask how to find a normal girl to chat chit and then having sex? in fact, normal vietnamese girls are not familiar with one night stand. therefore, it's quite hard to complete this mission in one or two days. if you stay in hanoi for a long time, you should try your luck at bars, night clubs. be friend with normal girls, flirting, chatting and maybe you will be successful. but if you are short time travelers, it's really really difficult. all i can say is you should try to register an i'd at yahoo or paltalk, go to their vietnamese rooms, chat with vietnamese girls 2-3 weeks before you visit vietnam. good luck for you.

ahh, it's all my knowledge about hanoi. if you have any question about more detail information, please ask me. i will answer as far as i know.

excellent report. hanoi is a tough town for folks just passing through.

[quote=ssrtc1984; 1250929]hi,

i am a vietnamese. i have been a member of this awesome forum for a quite long time and honestly i must say that thanks so much for its information. i have traveled a lot throughout the world and thank to this website, i had chances to enjoy many interesting services. and now i feel i would be a bad guy if i just get information from you and didn't have anything to share. therefore, i will tell you everything i know about sex services in hanoi. but please keep in mind that the price i mention there is for vietnamese. as a foreigner, maybe they will ask you to pay higher. the girls usually can't speak english. so please practice your negotiation skill and learn a little bit vietnamese before exploring. .

firstly, i will tell about massages services.

1. the most popular massages services in hanoi is "tam quat thu gian". you can find a lot of "tam quat thu gian" shops in vong, truong dinh, thuy khe (google map please).

pros: the price is reasonable. ticket usually is from 100k vn&272; to 150 vn&272; and 100k to 200k for tips. you can get hj, bj and even if you are lucky, handsome, etc you can have a fs.

cons: the girls usually are just acceptable and some of them are very far from pretty (it's just my opnion, a vietnamese viewpoint). rooms are very small and dirty. beware of std, when you have sex or bj you should wear a condom. many people report that they get gonorrhea from these girl after enjoy a bj session.

the most famous shop today: uhm, maybe at 882 truong dinh. this shop is very famous in vietnamese sex guide forum now.

2. if you do not like "tam quat thu gian", you can try normal massage parlors. you can find them everywhere in hanoi, even in luxury hotels.

pros: the girls are more beautiful than the ones in "tam quat thu gian". rooms are also much cleaner. in some hotels, rooms are huge and nice. you also can put the fear of std at home.

cons: you should have a thick pocket before entering these shops. tickets usually from 300k vn&272; to 500k vn&272; but in hotels, it can be 100. 200 usd. the higher ticket fee are, the more the girls ask for tips. in small shops, they can ask for 300k. 500k. 1m but in hotels, they can ask for 2m. however, you often just get hj there. in some very rare cases, girls can offer you a bj but in fact it's forbidden by the shop owners.

luckily, you still can ask the girls their cell phone numbers and after their working time, you can take them to a hotel and have a happy time.

the most famous shop today: i cannot tell which one is the best because there are too many shops like that in hanoi. i just give you some address i know. fortuna hotel, bao son hotel, hanoi hotel, esalen (333 doi can. 6 nghi tam) , kingston (53 hang chuoi) , eden (pham hong thai str) and many others you can find in this thread.

3. under the same banner massage parlor, some shops provide you more interesting services.

+ sakura in vu thach str, you can have two girls bathing, massaging for you and they also provide bj. ticket from 400k. 600k and tips from 500k. 1500k. rooms are large and clean.

+ moscow in f361 an duong str. you and the girls will bath together (they wear bikini). you can have hj, bj (sometimes) or even fs (rarely). ticket: 500k and tips depending on services the girls provide.

+ oasis in cau that, i find that it is quite popular in this thread so i will skip its description.

secondly, some vietnamese men like ktv. karaoke bar with girls are also very popular in hanoi. you can find them in nguyen chi thanh str, au co str. i can say that you can go to any karaoke bars and ask for girls (just ignoring too big karaoke bars or the ones with "karaoke gia dinh" or family karaoke banners).

+ pros: you can easily find a pretty girl in a big number girls they show you. some of them are soooo kuteee. during karaoke time, your hands can travel all over girls' body. they also can provide a strip show (of course, you must pay more). you can ask them for a date at a hotel and have a boom boom session.

+ cons: you should be very careful with the girls if you don't want to pay a big amount of money. girls will open beer bottles as quick as light speed although you cannot drink all. if you can control this problem, you just need to pay around 500k. 700k for a normal session. but if you ask for strip shows? uhm i am not sure, maybe add 500k or 1m, once again it depends on your negotiation skills.

famous ones: well i don't know much because it's not my hobby (i prefer massages and fs.). but nhat thong (in thi sach str) is very famous. girls are very beautiful. however it's very expensive. for a karaoke session with strips show, you may have to pay 2. 3m vnd. consider carefully before visiting.

thirdly, i will tell you about boom boom services. in fact, even for a vietnamese, it's very difficult to find a good-looking girl to have sex if you do not have any contracts. you can find some girls standing in the streets in pham ngu lao or ton dan str. but normally they are old and not pretty. a good place for you to quickly find a girl for having sex is in the base of fortuna hotel. the girls are beautiful, can speak a little bit of english and know well how to satisfy you. however the price are high. you will pay around 200 usd for a fs session. you also can visit some nightclub to find working girls (nutz bar at sheraton hotel, the bar at hanoi hotel and other nite clubs). it can cost you about 100 usd. in my opinion, the best way for you is visiting massage parlors or karaoke bars first, take their phone number and do the rest at a hotel. good luck. .

finally, some of you ask how to find a normal girl to chat chit and then having sex? in fact, normal vietnamese girls are not familiar with one night stand. therefore, it's quite hard to complete this mission in one or two days. if you stay in hanoi for a long time, you should try your luck at bars, night clubs. be friend with normal girls, flirting, chatting and maybe you will be successful. but if you are short time travelers, it's really really difficult. all i can say is you should try to register an i'd at yahoo or paltalk, go to their vietnamese rooms, chat with vietnamese girls 2-3 weeks before you visit vietnam. good luck for you.

ahh, it's all my knowledge about hanoi. if you have any question about more detail information, please ask me. i will answer as far as i know.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1251287]Excellent report. Hanoi is a tough town for folks just passing through.[/QUOTE]Right. However if you stay at Hanoi for a quite long time and have enough money, you will find that Hanoi can satisfy all your wildest sexual fantasy. You can play three, four or five-some with very beautiful girls, act as a real emperor. Now I'm in Melbourne, Australia and I think that Melbourne makes me really disappointed. Is there anyone knowing that where I can find places like Vietnam's massage parlors in Melbourne?

[QUOTE=Joffre; 1248925]Her name is Thuy and she seems to be making a name for herself. The place is very basic, no sauna or jacuzzi offered nor wanted, and no pretence of proper massage. Just stroking, teasing, touching, rubbing, her hands all over me and my hand stroking her thighs and arse under her dress. She flipped me over, released a large breast for me to suck on (nipple like a wine cork) , and took hold of my cock. I slid a finger into her now wet pussy, and came with a shudder. She held me a while, and then cleaned me up. I had come from a stressful meeting and this was exactly what the doctor ordered. I left happy!

Just as Richard Dawkins said, go down Dong Tac from the top end, follow a big sign saying massage down an alley on the right.[/QUOTE]I had tried this before Tet and it is worst to say that ladies are old and ugly.

This is a great report so thank you so much for it! I will now try to add what I know about some of these places to more help others. I live in Thailand but can visit hanoi a few times a year and I used to live there so I am a little familiar also. Sorry for the OK english.

About Sakura massage there is also one near Doi Can street. Maybe Doi Nhan street? They have doctor fish massage and the VIP massage but you can not take both at once! So I usually take a VIP and it is a little more money but the rooms are very big and the girls' are pretty.

For Sakura on Vu Thack street, how is it with two girls? My thought is that in Vietnam they are very shy with each other so it is better to keep only one girl? Is this true? Or can it be fun with two girls?

At Moscow massage some local firends brought me there one time. It is very unusual but fun! As he said before there is a girl that will sauna with you and bath you in the pool with a bikini. I could not believe it! The decorations is strange. Not many customers when I went in durng the day and they give me one pretty girl named Tuyet I think. I remember she did ask for high tip is why I have not returned back yet. BUt it is very worth it for sure at least one time (or maybe more!) Any one else have some experiences here?

I also like the Oasis by the OPera House downtown. Already everynoe knows this one so I can just recommend girl 4 for a massage there. Very pretty and nice (for me.). There is also the other Oasis massge on Lang Ha street near the fortuna hotel. It is very similar there and number 47 was a good one last time I went.

I hope this can help some people!

[QUOTE=Ssrtc1984; 1250929]Hi,

The most famous shop today: I cannot tell which one is the best because there are too many shops like that in Hanoi. I just give you some address I know. Fortuna hotel, Bao Son hotel, Hanoi hotel, Esalen (333 Doi Can. 6 Nghi Tam) , Kingston (53 Hang Chuoi) , Eden (Pham Hong Thai str) and many others you can find in this thread.

3. Under the same banner massage parlor, some shops provide you more interesting services.

+ Sakura in Vu Thach str, you can have two girls bathing, massaging for you and they also provide BJ. Ticket from 400k. 600k and tips from 500k. 1500k. Rooms are large and clean.

+ Moscow in F361 An Duong str. You and the girls will bath together (they wear bikini). You can have HJ, BJ (sometimes) or even FS (rarely). Ticket: 500k and tips depending on services the girls provide.

+ Oasis in Cau that, I find that it is quite popular in this thread so I will skip its description.[/QUOTE]

You are right. Sakura have another one in Doi Nhan Str but in my opinion, I prefer the one at Vu Thach Str. It's quite popular today to find a massage parlor providing two-girl service (namely "Four hands massges"). As I mentioned before, in Vietnam if you have enough money, you can satisfy your wildest dream. By using Four hands massages at Sakura, two girls will wash your body, provide HJ and BJ at once. No shy! Actually, girls there always try to convince you using four hands services because they won't need work a lot.

[QUOTE=Photo 79; 1254909]This is a great report so thank you so much for it! I will now try to add what I know about some of these places to more help others. I live in Thailand but can visit hanoi a few times a year and I used to live there so I am a little familiar also. Sorry for the OK english.

About Sakura massage there is also one near Doi Can street. Maybe Doi Nhan street? They have doctor fish massage and the VIP massage but you can not take both at once! So I usually take a VIP and it is a little more money but the rooms are very big and the girls' are pretty.

For Sakura on Vu Thack street, how is it with two girls? My thought is that in Vietnam they are very shy with each other so it is better to keep only one girl? Is this true? Or can it be fun with two girls?

At Moscow massage some local firends brought me there one time. It is very unusual but fun! As he said before there is a girl that will sauna with you and bath you in the pool with a bikini. I could not believe it! The decorations is strange. Not many customers when I went in durng the day and they give me one pretty girl named Tuyet I think. I remember she did ask for high tip is why I have not returned back yet. BUt it is very worth it for sure at least one time (or maybe more!) Any one else have some experiences here?

I also like the Oasis by the OPera House downtown. Already everynoe knows this one so I can just recommend girl 4 for a massage there. Very pretty and nice (for me.). There is also the other Oasis massge on Lang Ha street near the fortuna hotel. It is very similar there and number 47 was a good one last time I went.

I hope this can help some people![/QUOTE]

As the bishop said etc.

Excellent report from ssrc and others with some places I'm looking forward to trying. It's worrying to hear about the risk of std in blow-and-go places. Are there any mongering doctors out there who can tell us how risky it is? Has anyone caught anything nasty off a tam quat blowie? Many of us get serviced in these places twice weekly, and a few of us are partial to a drink from the furry cup too.

You didn't mention older VN women. It is said that once they are married, and their two kids are older, they often get neglected by their husbands, who go to bia hoi and karaoke a lot (shame on them). So apparently these women are open to liaisons in hotels with men who can be relied upon to treat them well and be discreet. So far my attempts to pursue this route have been rebuffed, but without offense. But let's not give up.

To Ssrtc1984 and Photo 79:

You mentioned that Sakura is on Vu Thach Street but I tried Google Maps and it seems no such street exists. However, I tried to Google Sakura Massage Hanoi and I got this address:

39 V&360; TH&7840; NH (off Giang Vo)

Is this the right address?

It seems that Vietnamese is not shown correctly in the forum however the address you found is right. Vu Thach Str is a small lane near Giang Vo Str.

[QUOTE=JohnAppleseed; 1255990]To Ssrtc1984 and Photo 79:

You mentioned that Sakura is on Vu Thach Street but I tried Google Maps and it seems no such street exists. However, I tried to Google Sakura Massage Hanoi and I got this address:

39 V&360; TH&7840; NH (off Giang Vo)

Is this the right address?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ssrtc1984;1257022]It seems that Vietnamese is not shown correctly in the forum however the address you found is right. Vu Thach Str is a small lane near Giang Vo Str.[/QUOTE]Thanks Ssrtc for confirming, the Vietnamese that didn't show up correctly actually shows up as "Vu Thanh" on Google Maps for some reason. Will check out the place next time I'm in town.

Hi everybody,

I am a belgium artist 41, not on fast food, I stay five weeks in Hanoi now in April.may and I like gourmandise. I would like to avoid the poor, short and miserable girls from the rural areas which are serving the massage centers. Anybody interesting in HAN that could meet me and eventl guide me to meet some semi prof beautiful students or give me some adresses of karaoke place where to meet normal girls that are looking for adventures with westerners.

Thanks to the great report and info from ssrtc1984 I went and checked this place out. I've been twice now.

I went for a 90min VIP massage, and being morning time I had the place all to myself, the ticket price was 700k vnd.

You get changed into the massage shorts and are given a towel and then head into the communal steam bath. After about 5 minutes your girl will join you dressed in a skimpy little bikini.

The first time I went there the girl I got was called Vi, very attractive and friendly. She came into the steam bath and sat on the bench above and behind me and got me to lean back between her thighs while she massaged my shoulders and neck before starting to rub my chest and playing with my nipples. After a few minutes of this, having got me nice and hard, she started playing with my cock and didn't really stop doing that for the rest of the time I was there.

After about ten minutes of playing round in the steam bath, we moved to the sauna, where things proceeded pretty much as before. She lifted up her bikini top to let me play and suck on her tits and let my fingers explore her nice wet pussy. She was also sucking on my nipples / kissing my neck and sticking her tongue in my ear while continuing to play with my cock.

After another ten minutes or so, we headed upstairs to the jacuzzi, which is about the size of a small hotel swimming pool. Here things started to get a lot more fun, and we spent most of our time in here with her straddling me with her bikini bottoms removed and allowing me to penetrate her pussy with just the very tip of my cock. Very alluring and very hard not to push the situation further, although she was adamant about no sex.

Once our time in the jacuzzi finished, I headed upstairs again for a change of shorts and then had to wait about 5 minutes in my massage room for her to arrive in a change of clothes. She then gave me a reasonable if somewhat perfunctory massage for 15 minutes or so, before offering me a HJ or a BBBJ. My head being thoroughly in my shorts by now, I negotiated 1M VND for a BJ and she proceeded to give an excellent performance that had me blowing my load in no time.

I went back downstairs, got changed and then you pay your tip at the front desk on the way out.

The second time I went there, I don't know the name of my girl, but again being early morning I had the place to myself. Things started off the same as the first time in the steam bath and then we headed into the sauna. Here we started doing a lot of kissing and groping. She was letting me play with her arse and finger her pussy. She was sitting straddled on my lap while I was fingering her and playing with her arse and was making lovely groaning noises of pleasure and was clearly getting into the whole thing. She then stood up, and I thought that maybe that was as much fun as I was going to get.

But then she pulled down my shorts, removed her bikini bottoms and was sitting astride me again before I'd even blinked. She then slid her very wet pussy onto my bare cock and basically fucked the shit out of me until she was shaking and cumming then slowing down her pace and working my shaft expertly until I was shooting my load inside her. All of this without saying a word and not mentioning money in the slightest.

After that, everything went as I have described about my first time there, although I think she was a little disappointed that I couldn't get it back up for a repeat performance within my allotted time. At the end of the massage, she gave me the tip book to fill out and I tipped her 1M VND. She cooed as if she wanted more, but didn't make a big fuss that could have spoiled the experience.

Overall, this is by no means somewhere to go if you're looking for it on the cheap, but as an occasional experience well worth while. As to what level of service you get, that seems to depend on the girl you get, and I guess whether or not there are other people there at the same time as you.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins; 1262340]Thanks to the great report and info from ssrtc1984 I went and checked this place out. I've been twice now.

I went for a 90min VIP massage, and being morning time I had the place all to myself, the ticket price was 700k vnd.

Overall, this is by no means somewhere to go if you're looking for it on the cheap, but as an occasional experience well worth while. As to what level of service you get, that seems to depend on the girl you get, and I guess whether or not there are other people there at the same time as you.[/QUOTE]At what time you went mate? I am here working so I guess I can sneak out for a long lunch.

I tried to look for the address in google maps but no luck (maybe I'm stupid. Haha). Is that place in the west lake?

Cheers

It sound so exciting. I visited Moscow twice or three times but never got FS like you. I only heard about it from some friends. Congrats.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins; 1262340]Thanks to the great report and info from ssrtc1984 I went and checked this place out. I've been twice now.

I went for a 90min VIP massage, and being morning time I had the place all to myself, the ticket price was 700k vnd.

You get changed into the massage shorts...[/QUOTE]

Maybe because you copied exactly what I wrote in the report. You should write like this in google map, it will shown more clearly: F361 An Duong, Ha Noi. It will be better if you can write "Ha Noi" by Vietnamese spelling. I don't write here because Vietnamese is not shown properly in this forum.

[QUOTE=Sfanimal; 1263467]At what time you went mate? I am here working so I guess I can sneak out for a long lunch.

I tried to look for the address in google maps but no luck (maybe I'm stupid. Haha). Is that place in the west lake?

Cheers[/QUOTE]

A vietnamese friend told me that there is a forum on lauxanh. Us in vietnamese where it is all happening. The saunas and massages are mostly state controled (corruption) while all the freebees can be found on this side. Problem the side is in viet and my autotranslater is only doing it approximatly. Anybody knows about " lauxanh "?

Of course I know lauxanh. Us very well because I am a Vietnamese. It's is the largest Vietnamese adult website today but foreigners nearly cannot read it because all its content is Vietnamese. However you can read my previous reports. Most of its information is discussed in lauxanh as well. If you want to know more about Vietnam, you can ask me, I will reply as soon as possible.

[QUOTE=PedroEuropa;1263902]A vietnamese friend told me that there is a forum on lauxanh. Us in vietnamese where it is all happening. The saunas and massages are mostly state controled (corruption) while all the freebees can be found on this side. Problem the side is in viet and my autotranslater is only doing it approximatly. Anybody knows about " lauxanh "?[/QUOTE]

So Moscow is really easy to find, if the Google Maps search suggested hasn't helped. Basically head into An Duong through the gap in the dyke wall that is opposite to the Sofitel hotel on the big junction (the one with KFC). Once through the dyke wall keep heading straight and then follow the road until the very end. Moscow is on the right hand side just as you head down the very final alley that you will bear left to get into. It is one alley over from Softwater restaurant. If you're in the right alley, you won't miss it.

So I headed back to 62 Doc Ngu this weekend after a long absence. I've been frequenting No. 26 fairly regularly recently, but having got Luyen on repeat occasions and being less than impressed with her price gouging and poor attitude / service I thought I'd give No. 62 another go.

The girl I got was not the prettiest of the bunch, but more than made up for it with attitude and service, getting me very turned on. I didn't get her name, although I've seen her described here in the past, the girl that cocks her leg up on the stool for easy access to the goods.

She seemed to take an instant liking to me, and so everything was allowed. We started with lots of DFK and groping and it wasn't long until the clothes were all off both of us. After a long time in foreplay, she gives my todger a wipe down and then sets to work doing things with her mouth and tongue that had me holding on for dear life so that I didn't blow too early and miss out on the experience. Just at the point when I was about to erupt, purely from her playing her tongue around the head of my cock, she mercifully took a bit of a break so that I could spend a bit more time getting her off. She was letting me get several fingers inside her very wet pussy and then grinding herself on my leg.

I slid my cock underneath her pussy as she was grinding on my leg, and after a minute of this, she quickly put on some clothes, dashed out and return a moment later with a condom. She slid it on me and then perched herself up on the massage table so that I could bang her while standing up. All the time she was telling me to be very quiet. There was lots more kissing and fondling while the deed was being done, and she seemed to really enjoy the whole thing.

After we had finished and she'd cleaned me up, we spent another 10 minutes or so, kissing, cuddling and fondling like horny teenagers while she complimented me on being handsome and well endowed. Nothing like a good ego boost on a Saturday morning! The damage was 700K VND and I think I'll be heading back to see her again next week. Much less than Luyen at No. 26 wants for FS, and she just lies there like a plank of wood into the bargain.

Any of you have experience with escorte services in Vietnam? I have found two websites: [url]http://www.hanoiescortagency.com[/url] And [url]http://vietnamescortservice.com[/url]

They are of course pretty expensive and I was wondering if they are any good or if they actually exist.

Also, do any of you have some contacts of some nice ladies who do massage services with extras on delivery at home? That would be an interesting adventure I guess.

Would love to hear from your experiences.

Moscow Massage service is fairly good I have to admit, although the quality and excitement depends on the girl you get. Some are a bit boring I have to say.

[QUOTE=ANick; 1265871]Any of you have experience with escorte services in Vietnam? I have found two websites:

[url]http://www.hanoiescortagency.com[/url]

And.

[url]http://vietnamescortservice.com[/url]

They are of course pretty expensive and I was wondering if they are any good or if they actually exist.

Also, do any of you have some contacts of some nice ladies who do massage services with extras on delivery at home? That would be an interesting adventure I guess.

Would love to hear from your experiences.

Moscow Massage service is fairly good I have to admit, although the quality and excitement depends on the girl you get. Some are a bit boring I have to say.[/QUOTE]Their prices are way too high, and usually they send you the same girls that you can find in HBT or other known places (where you pay less than half the price) in HCMC. I heard that sometimes they don't send you the same girl you choose from their website. Their services are focused mainly for HCMC clients, but not much for HN.

Cheers,

Alex

Could any one like to tell the contact number and the detail address / location of the Moscow Sauna Club in An Duong, it's my first time to Ha Noi and very confused about it!

Many thanks to any helpful infromation.

[QUOTE=Mcleo; 1267260]Could any one like to tell the contact number and the detail address / location of the Moscow Sauna Club in An Duong, it's my first time to Ha Noi and very confused about it!

Many thanks to any helpful infromation.[/QUOTE]Don't have contact number for Moscow, and unless you speak Vietnamese, it would be pretty pointless having it anyway. The address would be something like: Duong 11, F361 An Duong, Tay Ho District. I have posted a link that should show the Duong 11 alley it is located on below. Because of the way this site adds spaces after full stops (periods) you'll need to manually remove the spaces when you post the entire link into your browser address bar.

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?q=an[/url]+duong, +hanoi, +vietnam&hl=en&ll=21. 049629, 105. 84442&spn=0. 002809, 0.005284&sll=37. 0625-95. 677068&sspn=38. 963048, 86. 572266&hq=an+duong, &hnear=Hoan+Kiem+District, +Hanoi, +Vietnam&t=m&fll=21. 050065, 105. 843487&fspn=0. 002809, 0.005284&z=18

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins; 1267364]Don't have contact number for Moscow, and unless you speak Vietnamese, it would be pretty pointless having it anyway. The address would be something like: Duong 11, F361 An Duong, Tay Ho District. I have posted a link that should show the Duong 11 alley it is located on below. Because of the way this site adds spaces after full stops (periods) you'll need to manually remove the spaces when you post the entire link into your browser address bar.

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?q=an[/url]

+duong, +hanoi, +vietnam&hl=en&ll=21. 049629, 105. 84442&spn=0. 002809, 0.005284&sll=37. 0625-95. 677068&sspn=38. 963048, 86. 572266&hq=an+duong, &hnear=Hoan+Kiem+District, +Hanoi, +Vietnam&t=m&fll=21. 050065, 105. 843487&fspn=0. 002809, 0.005284&z=18[/QUOTE]Or use the "short link" option:

[url]http://g.co/maps/847ep[/url]

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1267366]Or use the "short link" option:

[url]http://g.co/maps/847ep[/url][/QUOTE]Thank you for edumacating me on this interweb doohickey! Will use short links in future.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins; 1267364]Don't have contact number for Moscow, and unless you speak Vietnamese, it would be pretty pointless having it anyway. The address would be something like: Duong 11, F361 An Duong, Tay Ho District. I have posted a link that should show the Duong 11 alley it is located on below. Because of the way this site adds spaces after full stops (periods) you'll need to manually remove the spaces when you post the entire link into your browser address bar.

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?q=an[/url]

+duong, +hanoi, +vietnam&hl=en&ll=21. 049629, 105. 84442&spn=0. 002809, 0.005284&sll=37. 0625-95. 677068&sspn=38. 963048, 86. 572266&hq=an+duong, &hnear=Hoan+Kiem+District, +Hanoi, +Vietnam&t=m&fll=21. 050065, 105. 843487&fspn=0. 002809, 0.005284&z=18[/QUOTE]Thanks Richard, it is very helpful infromation you provided.

i like a good vip massage, i really do. i have seen this joint advertised online so checked it out.

i made contact with them via text message to determine cost of service and tipping arrangements. one of the guys speaks decent enough english. when i arrived, it was pretty quiet. i was welcomed in, sat down to go through the menu and asked what i wanted. i chose a 90 minute vip service. vnd400, 000. pretty good price. i was taken upstairs and shown into a room. standard vip room. massage table, spa bath, mini-sauna. not a real big room, but nicely laid out. they also have a wet-massage table in the spa room which i have not come across in other places.

a girl was brought in. no english. but, she's a cutie, easily a 7. 5. she is warm, friendly and playful. my kind of girl. i get my gear off, she does the usual 'ooh and aah' you expect and gets me into the sauna. i last about 15-20 mins in what turns out to be a damn hot sauna! when i come out, i find out what the wet massage table is for. she gets me on there, on my front, and proceeds to wash me down then give me a body scrub using some exfoliating cream. delicious. some playfulness. rolls me over. lots more playfulness and attention to the little fella who is wide awake now. this she is happy about. then it's into the spa bath for a while. i come out sparkling clean and wrinkly from hot water. onto the massage.

here is where things are a let-down. i don't expect a quality therapeutic massage but i do expect the girl to try, just a little. this was ordinary. towards the end we got to the usual stage. refreshingly, no bargaining at this point. just onto the little fella. annoyingly, and disappointingly, she is wearing those silly shorts under the dress. she makes no effort to help with access to herself. the hj is fairly mechanical really.

for a great vip service i tip well. this was far from great, no matter how cute she is. i tipped her vnd300k. she was ok with it, tried to whine a little but quickly gave up. her name is tram. i'd probably get someone else next time.

would i go back? perhaps. it's a really nice venue, discreetly tucked down ngo 31 away from thoroughfares. the place is well designed, the rooms are nice. cost me vnd700k all up which is pretty reasonable for a vip service.

so. who can recommend other vip joints worth checking out? moscow sounds great and is on my list! i've done oasis lang ha a few times. it gets tired after a while. others?

[QUOTE=CaseyStar;1268544]So. Who can recommend other VIP joints worth checking out? Moscow sounds great and is on my list! I've done Oasis Lang Ha a few times. It gets tired after a while. Others?[/QUOTE]I'm a fan of VIP massages myself but haven't visited a great one thus far in Hanoi. Favorite one for me is Oasis on Doc Bac Co but it's a bit out of the way for me. If anyone else has other good ones to recommend that'd be great!

BTW I passed by Moscow the other day, looks rather pricey since it's a whole building to itself. Might give it a try if I pass by again.

[QUOTE=JohnAppleseed; 1270989]I'm a fan of VIP massages myself but haven't visited a great one thus far in Hanoi. Favorite one for me is Oasis on Doc Bac Co but it's a bit out of the way for me. If anyone else has other good ones to recommend that'd be great!

BTW I passed by Moscow the other day, looks rather pricey since it's a whole building to itself. Might give it a try if I pass by again.[/QUOTE]I just went to Moscow so I thought will be good to send a quick review.

For those who were asking about the address and numbers, I got the details from their card.

Address: So 11 Duong 11, TT F361 An Duong, Yen Phu, Tay Ho, Ha Noi.

Tel: (04) 38291748

Mobile: 0986460568.

It is really easy to find the place. I found it in no time. And the girl in the front desk speak a decent broken english

The experience went pretty much as Richard described in a previous post. Arrived there around 12ish, place empty and followed the same script. VIP massage VND 700K. I liked the jacuzzi the most as she took out the bikini bottoms and let me inspect her tight pussy and anus.

About the girl, no english what so ever so I didn't even get her name. Pretty face, tight body, small tits. 2 turn offs, one nipple had 2 big hairs and the asian classic forest pussy, I know its asia but they should trim a bit that jungle.

Massage was decent, nothing spectacular. Then we negotiate for the BBBJ and we agreed in VND 800K, the BBBJ was very mechanical but enjoyable, took me a while to come, she tried her hardest. And let me inspect again her bushy pussy and anus. I didn't ask / push for FS.

At the end the damage was 1. 5million + taxis.

If I will go back? I guess so, I liked the fact that the place was empty and the girl goes with you to the sauna and jacuzzi.

Will be good to know is there any way that you choose the girl.

Hello,

I just arrived at hotel Grand Plaza, any recommendation for massage parlors in near by area.

Thanks

Hi guys,

I am in search of the biggest boobs in Hanoi preferably on a slim body.

Any recommendations? Will be there in July. Much obliged.

Did the cups find the biggest boobs on slim body in Hanoi? Please tell us where they are and if they for sharing. And how about the MPs near Grand Plaza hs1975? Any recommendations?

After getting a pretty poor body massage at the 160, 000 dong (70 minutes) place on Ly Quok Su near Hang Bong, I decided to check out Sauna and Massage at 65 Hang Trong (one street closer to the lake, just off of Hang Bong).60 minute body massage 250, 000 dong, VIP 400, 000 dong (70 minutes, includes massage girl washing you). Paid the 250, 000 dong and was brought to a room. A pretty cute girl came in and started the massage. She was really good and the aches from walking the whole afternoon sightseeing diminished.

When the massage was almost over, she asked me if I wanted a HJ. I'm not really into HJs unless it is at the end of a sex session to get me off if I have not come through sex or BJ. I told her I wasn't interested but just out of curiosity, what would she want. She said 400, 000. I told her no way. She then said that she doesn't get any of the 250, 000 dong I had paid, only the HJ tip. I was surprised that she would work for nothing except tips and felt obligated to get a HJ, so I told her 200, 000 dong. She countered with 300, 000, then 250, 000. I said OK but she had to take her top off. She said no, so I stuck with the 200, 000, which she accepted. The HJ was OK, was able to squeeze her tits inside the bra, but no pussy access.

Nice girl, great massage. Too bad she didn't work at the 160, 000 dong place where you don't have to (and can't) get HJs.

[QUOTE=Sfanimal; 1273868]About the girl, no english what so ever so I didn't even get her name. Pretty face, tight body, small tits. 2 turn offs, one nipple had 2 big hairs and the asian classic forest pussy, I know its asia but they should trim a bit that jungle.[QUOTE]

It's considered 'bad luck' to trim or shave your pubic hair in Vietnam, hence the plethora of hirsute girls.

Personally I find the sight of a neat little au-naturale Bush a huge turn on. The wild forest look less so. And like you I draw the line at wiry hairs protruding from the nipples which are just creepy.

I am returning to Hanoi soon for a new four month contract and would like to try some new pussy so I placed a add on the TNH Hanoi website looking for some

"discrete fun" with a Vietnamese lady as I struck gold the last time I advertised. This time I received five replays which I have narrowed down to two distinct possibilities and already have my first meeting scheduled. Forget massage parlours and the like during my time working in Vietnam I have discovered more free pussy than any where else I have worked. What has surprised me is how many married women want to have no strings sex with a western cock.

[QUOTE=Doppel One; 1288108]It's considered 'bad luck' to trim or shave your pubic hair in Vietnam, hence the plethora of hirsute girls.

Personally I find the sight of a neat little au-naturale Bush a huge turn on. The wild forest look less so. And like you I draw the line at wiry hairs protruding from the nipples which are just creepy.[/QUOTE]Must be Vietnam only as the Vietnamese girls I had in Singapore or Macau were well trimmed if not even shaved.

Am at May de Ville Hotel, want to have a massage with BBBG near. Any adresse?

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1292352]Must be Vietnam only as the Vietnamese girls I had in Singapore or Macau were well trimmed if not even shaved.[/QUOTE]Naturally people adapt to their environment and the influences that surround them. From what I can gather the auld ways still endure in provincial Vietnam and an un-trimmed Bush is very much the norm.

Sorry guys, my trip to Hanoi was cancelled by the people who were going to hire me there. I'll be back in HCMC tho in October doing my eternal big boob research there. I was disappointed to learn last time I was there in HCMC that the one super busty BBBJCIM queen named May from Smiley's on Thai Van Lung in HCMC has apparently made her fortune and retired. Oh well. There must be another vixen like that available somewher in Vietnam.

[QUOTE=Joffre;1287526]Did the cups find the biggest boobs on slim body in Hanoi? Please tell us where they are and if they for sharing. And how about the MPs near Grand Plaza hs1975? Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]

Had an unexpectedly free couple of hours during a meeting at the Intercontinental on West Lake. No time for research so I headed up to the main road (Âyou C&417. Where I had noticed a couple of sauna signs on the journey from the airport. I turned left and walked a little way and saw only one on the east side of the road so I took my life in my hands and crossed over. The entrance turned out to be off a side street (Ngõ 34 &272; &432; &7901; ng Âyou C&417; I think) and was frankly seedy. 500k got me an hour with a rather cute VN lady who gave a good massage and HJ, would have done more if I had asked.

I was leaving a bar around 12 this evening in the French Quartere, not far from the Hilton and got a bit lost. I ended up running into 4-5 girls on motos offering the usual "lady boomboom".2 were beat. 2 were not bad 1 was about late 20s but had a great body, little aggressive. Asking price was 500, 000, said she had a hotel. Anyone have and experience with this? Is this a scam or legit?

Hi guys, I'm new, so please stick with me.

I'm overnigting in Hanoi in a few months time and was going to give Moscow a burl which I'll report back on after. From all of the great reports that I've read I've figured out how to get there etc and what to expect. Thanks for that. I've found a nearby hotel so that was easy. What I need to know is what time does Moscow open? I'll be on a 4pm flight out and so would need to get there at 10am or 11am to make my flight. Looking forward to any assistance.

[QUOTE=Riverstar; 1292229]I am returning to Hanoi soon for a new four month contract and would like to try some new pussy so I placed a add on the TNH Hanoi website looking for some

"discrete fun" with a Vietnamese lady as I struck gold the last time I advertised. This time I received five replays which I have narrowed down to two distinct possibilities and already have my first meeting scheduled. Forget massage parlours and the like during my time working in Vietnam I have discovered more free pussy than any where else I have worked. What has surprised me is how many married women want to have no strings sex with a western cock.[/QUOTE]Hi riverstar, I am living in Hanoi since about 6 months and yes lots of girls, I lived in Brazil and famous Cuba and I never had such good free sex like in HN, poor guys who have to go to working girls and massa parlours. You just need to have some time and speak some words of Vietnamese and you will not have enought freetime to deal with all of them. Westerners are very lucky in Vietnam. Although I did the same like you putting un add into TNH but I was not lucky, I only met some unattractive married ladies. Hope you have more luck. Let us know!

Found some interessting ad for expaths in Hanoi in craigslist vietnam, there is a crazy jap couple looking desperatly for a third person to play all their fantasies. The girl is very beautiful. If its her on the photos.

I am not into three some but would like to play with the wive but the husband categoricaly don't want. So if somebody else is interessted go on the side and contact "are you lonely " "finding a guy " finding good guy "

In both "women seeking men" and "casual encounters". They will immediatly send you some photos.

Hello,

Can someone recommend a GF hotel (s) in Hanoi that is close to action?

Spaceman

[QUOTE=AlLostInSpace13; 1304183]Hello,

Can someone recommend a GF hotel (s) in Hanoi that is close to action?

Spaceman[/QUOTE]The Sheraton! At least based on the number of WG in Nutz bar at the hotel's basement.

[QUOTE=Conradt Safran;1300493]. I ended up running into 4-5 girls on motos offering the usual "lady boomboom".2 were beat. 2 were not bad 1 was about late 20s but had a great body, little aggressive.[/QUOTE]And how many of them being possible LB's?

Hello Pedro,

I also noticed them for a while now. And yes they reply instantaneously. Has anyone met them before and how was the issue. I will be in hanoi in August and looking for some nice Straight action. Please provide hints. Do we have some site like DIA here in vietnam.

Kevin

[QUOTE=PedroEuropa; 1303707]Found some interessting ad for expaths in Hanoi in craigslist vietnam, there is a crazy jap couple looking desperatly for a third person to play all their fantasies. The girl is very beautiful. If its her on the photos.

I am not into three some but would like to play with the wive but the husband categoricaly don't want. So if somebody else is interessted go on the side and contact "are you lonely " "finding a guy " finding good guy "

In both "women seeking men" and "casual encounters". They will immediatly send you some photos.[/QUOTE]

I also replied to these ads. My gut feeling is that it is just the guy, hoping to get a guy-on-guy thing going and the girl would mysteriously be unavailable. I doubt the girl even exists at all based upon my emails with him. At best, it's a Jap guy trying to convince his wife to have a threesome. I don't get the sense, again from emails, that she is totally a willing partner. As they say, enter at your own risk.

[QUOTE=PedroEuropa;1303707]Found some interesting ad for expats in Hanoi in craigslist vietnam, there is a crazy jap couple looking desperately for a third person to play all their fantasies. The girl is very beautiful. If its her on the photos.[/QUOTE]

Hello everyone. Got a good time at the Moscow Mssage that everyone here likes. Girl could not give me her number (like other massage places that have #s) but says her name is Thuy. So she says just ask for her but I'm afraid this is a common name. I think the rate for BJ is 1 million VN Dong because thats always what they ask and she told me that only HJ for less money. Of course what else can I do? 1 million it is. English there is OK or some girls cannot speak it.

Overall I like this place but the girls have only been 6-7s to me. No real stunners. The service is much better over some other VIP places, so this is how it makes up for that I think. If you don't like crowds like me, I find the best time to go is morning or afternoon. Not during lunch because so many locals are going there during lunch, from what I can see.

Also went to Oasis Massage on Lang Ha. The "first" Oasis. I like the one near the old town better, on Bac Do Street. Oasis on Lang Ha has an older feeling. Its kind of more poor looking. Still the prettiest girls work at Bac Do Oasis. You can choose number 4 and 27 (I think this is right) for good ones. Small girls both but good massages.

Whenever I have VIPs coming in I bring them to that Oasis and they always leave happy and thanking me! Would be nice to know some other "stars" at this place.

Last thing is Oasis the only massage place that the girls don't have to wear the shorts under the dress? Does anyone know another place like this?

Hope this reports helps some people!

[QUOTE=AussieKoi; 1300698]Hi guys, I'm new, so please stick with me.

I'm overnigting in Hanoi in a few months time and was going to give Moscow a burl which I'll report back on after. From all of the great reports that I've read I've figured out how to get there etc and what to expect. Thanks for that. I've found a nearby hotel so that was easy. What I need to know is what time does Moscow open? I'll be on a 4pm flight out and so would need to get there at 10am or 11am to make my flight. Looking forward to any assistance.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure that Moscow opens at 10am, it is definitely open by 11am anyway. I'm glad you're confident on your directions LOL, but to be honest it's not the hardest place in Hanoi to find. Just don't be put off by how deep into An Duong you have to venture to get to the place, it's right at the very very end of the road as I've alluded to before.

[QUOTE=CaseyStar;1305696]I also replied to these ads. My gut feeling is that it is just the guy, hoping to get a guy-on-guy thing going and the girl would mysteriously be unavailable. I doubt the girl even exists at all based upon my emails with him. At best, it's a Jap guy trying to convince his wife to have a threesome. I don't get the sense, again from emails, that she is totally a willing partner. As they say, enter at your own risk.[/QUOTE]I also noticed and did some researched.

Please go this linked, [url]http://www.loveawake.com/profile/annawizesca/[/url]

Her name is Anna, and her picture matched with Dude's wife.

But she isn't Japanese.

His I'd is zz8w1988.

If you googled, you'll see he is a gay.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins;1308629]I'm pretty sure that Moscow opens at 10am, it is definitely open by 11am anyway. I'm glad you're confident on your directions LOL, but to be honest it's not the hardest place in Hanoi to find. Just don't be put off by how deep into An Duong you have to venture to get to the place, it's right at the very very end of the road as I've alluded to before.[/QUOTE]Many thanks for the info. I'll report back when the deed is done.

AussieKoi

it has been a good 9 months in vietnam, both hanoi and hcmc, and with isg. thanks to all the fellow isg members and the distinguished reports that have helped me out more than many ways. it's now time to contribute!

hanoi, i must say, has been spoilt with foreigners and tourists willing to pay and paying more than adequate and hence, the prices have gone up accordingly over the last few years. but this inordinate pricing still seems to be kinda restricted to places that are talked about on isg and famous among the expats.

just a few examples. a place like sakura or kingston charges vnd 450k for a vip massage and the girls demand anything between vnd 300k-500k for a hj. a similar establishment on nguyen chi thanh or nguyen khang, cau giay (parallel to duong lang) or nguyen thi thap (behind grand plaza hotel) offers similar vip services for vnd 200k-300k (60-90 min jacuzzi, sauna, hj, bj) and a standard 200k tip is more than sufficient to keep the girls happy and willing to do more later. that's half the price dear friends and the best part about these establishments. no girl talks about money the whole time unless you are paying them less which makes it a much better experience than any of the sakuras and kingstonss.

or among the blow & glow places, if that's what gets you off. people seem to head to doc ngu. 381, kim ma and pay 300k-400k for a 10-20 minute bj. these places are downscale, dirty and yet charge 2-3 times of what you should be paying at an establishment like this which are rep001tered all over the city. head to nguyen khang or nguyen hoang ton (adjacent street to ciputra connecting phm van dong and lac long quan) or tam trinh and there are at least a dozen such establishments along the road each with 8-10 girls of similar or better quality agianst doc ngu for a fixed price of either 100k or 150k, no tips necessary. experience is subjective and depends a lot on who you choose. fj also possible depending on the time of the day, the girl's willingness and your irresistable charm. usually at a price of 500k.

let's get started with all i can remember right now. will keep adding new episodes as and when i recall.

full-service:

nutz bar. perhaps the worst destination in all of hanoi. old, high mileage, terrible looking girls / women who will nag you to death even if you have just gone in for a glass of drink. the pole / table dancers are kinda okay though the place remains empty most of the time. prices in the range of usd 100/150 for st / lt which can be negotiated down to 75/100. service quality is a mystery as i have never dared to try nor do i personally know anyone who has. i just knew a colleague who tried and what seemed to be a lovely drinks-date for this old gentleman, turned out to be filled with nightmarish negotiations through the night once they hit the road and reach the hotel. the prices changed. so. unless you are deperate for any pussy and don't know where to go, stray away.

hilton hotel or pham ngu lao moto-girls. be careful. i got robbbed myself sometime end of last year! lol! it goes like this. you take a stroll on the road right outside hilton hotel for a while, you are approached by one of the moto-girls, offered an incredibly low rate (sometimes as low as 200k for fj inlcuding hotel) , you ignore they follow till you give up and say "what the heck! let's try out". and that my friend, marks the death of the day! you will be robbed off while she gives you a fantastic bj in the hotel room. i knew about this and still wanted to try for the adventure bit. kept only money that i need in my wallet and the rest tucked inside a small hidden pocket inside my jeans almost impossible to find unless you know where to look. and i was still robbed! ha ha!

fortuna and hanoi hotel. no further discussion required on these two places i guess. fortuna has a far better line-up of girls and quite an enviable platter.

new square club. this is a premium club located adjacent to daewoo hotel on kim ma. lots of fls and hotties inside. the waitresses can give you a nice time inside and then introduce you to some hotties you might want to take home. but you got to order a bottle to get their attention and hence, better place for a group. bottles in the range of 2. 5-4 million, good club, good music, goo go-go dancers, hot women, rich vietnamese clientele. tips of 200k to the waitress. and 1. 5 million for st.

next top club at grand plaza hotel. same as above except this is one of the best nightclubs in hanoi among whatever this city has to offer for nightlife. service is much better than new square, fantastic leds all over and very pretty waitresses and hostesses. good place for an expensive night.

local ktv at nguyen chi thanh, duong lang, bui thi xuan. preferred with locals though i have done it all by myself as well. you go in, check the price per hour (usually 200k-300k per hour) , check the price of beer (usually 50-70k) and grab a room. then they call up the girls and get them lined up for you. choose what you like. one, two, three, all you can afford, they start opening up the beer, ask them to take away all fruits and snack packets and just keep what you need or trhey will be emptied without anyone eating them, sing or listen to them sing while you have fun, roaming and kissing allowed and a little more depending on what the gir (s) think of you and finally take them back for usd 50 for st or vnd 1 million or give them a tip of 200k and go home and sleep.

local ktv at nguyen van cu. these are right across the chuong duong bridge over the red river. lots of them but best to veture with locals. it can get pretty wild here with the girls dancing naked and almost an orgy there. take them to an adjacent motel if you want for about 300k-500k st. total expense about 800k per person for a group of 5. with the right company, these can turn out to be some of the best times you've had in hanoi.

bac ninh tam quat- venture a little ahead on the above road and you will reach bac ninh. about 25km from the center of hanoi. this road has at least 20 motels+massage (tam quat) written places and all of them are actually brothels. its pretty simple. walk in, ask for the price (usually 300k all-in st inlcuding tip. 100k for the house and 200k for the girl or slightly higher in some places but never exceeding 450k in total) , choose the girl, go to room, take a shower, enjoy! girls are good and often stunners as well with very good service. no rushing and a lot of gfe. people at most of these establishements are rooms are clean and good and the best places to be around hanoi if all you are looking for is boom-boom.

to ngoc van in tay ho. go to ngo 52 and you will not really have to look. lots of nha nghis or motels there but the prices are usually bad for us. its 400k for locals and 800-900k for foreigners. go in, ask the price, check out the girls, choose on or if you don't like move to another motel, do the deed! service average. it always gets better if you move out of the city to the friendly neighbourhood areas.

street walkers at tran khanh du (very close to oasis 2) , nguyen chi thanh (near the big crossing) , nguyen khanh toan (across the highway from pham ngu lao) , duong boi, etc. sometimes good ones as well but usually 5 pointers. cost. 400k-500k st. they will take you to a nearby hotel or take them back to your place.

rest of the story and a look at the b&g, massage places and free sex in episode 2.

Hey DK,

Thanks for the wonderful report and points, I am coming back to Ha noi after 4 years and was going through the Forum for hints and your report has almost everything I was looking for. Looking forward to Part 2.

Have you ever tried meeting anyone through tnhvietnam. Xemzi. Com. Its a Local equivalent of craiglist

K

[QUOTE=Darker Knight; 1311455]It has been a good 9 months in Vietnam, both Hanoi and HCMC, and with ISG. Thanks to all the fellow ISG members and the distinguished reports that have helped me out more than many ways. It's now time to contribute!

Hanoi, I must say, has been spoilt with foreigners and tourists willing to pay and paying more than adequate and hence, the prices have gone up accordingly over the last few years. But this inordinate pricing still seems to be kinda restricted to places that are talked about on ISG and famous among the expats.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, will be there in two weeks. Any ideas on in-room massages in the hotels? Any extras? Thanks again, very informative. Any info on female caddies at the golf courses?

Thanks Sheriff. Am trying to find some time off my work to write the next episodes as well! Have tried both TNH and Craigslist. CL was a complete disappointment for me. 2 oldies (40+) and 3 kids (18-) and am not into either of them. The rest on CL were either Trannys or gays. Not my style again. TNH was nice and I did meet quite a few pretty girls from there. All of them were SYTs but I slept with only 2 of them because the rest seemed too nice to fuck. By principle, I do not take advantage of girls unless they are into it. These girls were mostly young, dreamy types who still believe in eternal love and knight in shining armour stories. And am definitely not their knight. Am the darker one!

You can give it a try. But I would still think picking up girls from bars is a much simpler way. Loads of them out there. Just use your charm! .

[QUOTE=Sheriff2057; 1311493]Hey DK,

Thanks for the wonderful report and points, I am coming back to Ha noi after 4 years and was going through the Forum for hints and your report has almost everything I was looking for. Looking forward to Part 2.

Have you ever tried meeting anyone through tnhvietnam. Xemzi. Com. Its a Local equivalent of craiglist

K[/QUOTE]

Thanks Erich. This depends on which hotel you stay in. I know of some smaller hotels that provide this service but for most of the semi-decent ones, this option is a luxury. Fly to HCMC. That's where the action comes to your room. Just pick up the phone, call room service and order for your kinda girl. And don't forget if you need those extra toppings! .

I have seen female caddies at golf courses but have no clue how to get around them. Am sure, if you play for long enough you'll eventually hit off with one of them. Like I always say, just use your charm!

[QUOTE=Erich711;1312076]Thanks, will be there in two weeks. Any ideas on in-room massages in the hotels? Any extras? Thanks again, very informative. Any info on female caddies at the golf courses?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Darker Knight; 1312127]Thanks Erich. This depends on which hotel you stay in. I know of some smaller hotels that provide this service but for most of the semi-decent ones, this option is a luxury. Fly to HCMC. That's where the action comes to your room. Just pick up the phone, call room service and order for your kinda girl. And don't forget if you need those extra toppings! .

I have seen female caddies at golf courses but have no clue how to get around them. Am sure, if you play for long enough you'll eventually hit off with one of them. Like I always say, just use your charm![/QUOTE]Won't be in HCMC. Will be staying in Hanoi and not sure yet where they'll be sending me yet. When you state "luxury". What does that mean specifically? I've read the majority of posts. Looks like $25US is high, but expect a little higher in some on the Hanoi Hotels.

Well, it just means that most of the hotels do not provide in room massage services for the fear of local police. The smaller hotels, under USD40, might be more willing to provide this service but it's rare. What hotel are you staying in? Give me the details and I can perhaps suggest some alternatives for you.

[QUOTE=Erich711;1312537]Won't be in HCMC. Will be staying in Hanoi and not sure yet where they'll be sending me yet. When you state "luxury". What does that mean specifically? I've read the majority of posts. Looks like $25US is high, but expect a little higher in some on the Hanoi Hotels.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Darker Knight;1312881]Well, it just means that most of the hotels do not provide in room massage services for the fear of local police. The smaller hotels, under USD40, might be more willing to provide this service but it's rare. What hotel are you staying in? Give me the details and I can perhaps suggest some alternatives for you.[/QUOTE]Thanks DK, will be at the Opera Hilton. Looks like the Oasis is around the corner.

The closest option for you would be Oasis 2 which you can actually walk to.

Use this link for easy direction on Google Maps. [url]https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Hilton[/url]+Hanoi+Opera+Hotel, +Hilton+Hanoi+Opera+Hotel, +%C4%90%C4%83%CC%A3ng+Tha%CC%81i+Th%C3%A2n, +Hoan+Kiem+District, +Hanoi, +Vietnam&daddr=Kh%C3%A1ch+S%E1%BA%A1n+Oasis+2, +Kh%C3%A1ch+S%E1%BA%A1n+Oasis+2, +77+C%E1%BA%A7u+%C4%90%E1%BA%A5t, +Ch%C6%B0%C6%A1ng+D%C6%B0%C6%A1ng, +Hoan+Kiem+District, +Hanoi, +Vietnam&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sll=21. 024054, 105. 859419&sspn=0. 005678, 0.010568&geocode=Fc_JQAEdsUJPBiG19NYbbDdPuCmLxOgJ7Ks1MTG19NYbbDdPuA%3BFfPSQAEdMlJPBiGnz8bV_uToASm_HJTQuqs1MTGnz8bV_uToAQ&oq=oasis+2&mra=ls&t=m&z=18.

Hilton does not allow unregistered guests after 9pm especially if the guests are Vietnamese women. Also, beware of the motorbike girls around the hotel at night. They are mastered the art of robbery! You can also try Moscow, much talked about on this forum, for a slightly better experience which is not far from your hotel as well.

[QUOTE=Erich711;1313090]Thanks DK, will be at the Opera Hilton. Looks like the Oasis is around the corner.[/QUOTE]

DK, when is Episode 2 going to get published and when you mentioned the Grand Plaza, did you mean the Golden Plaza Hotel on 9 Hàng Thùng?

[QUOTE=Darker Knight; 1311455]It has been a good 9 months in Vietnam, both Hanoi and HCMC, and with ISG. Thanks to all the fellow ISG members and the distinguished reports that have helped me out more than many ways. It's now time to contribute!

Hanoi, I must say, has been spoilt with foreigners and tourists willing to pay...[/QUOTE]Hi Knight,

Do you know the exact location in Bac Ninh. I always go there for supplier visit but never know of any massage area. I asked driver he also don't know.

Trying to set a target to finish off the next episode by today. I meant Grand Plaza hotel on Tran Duy Hung street. This is a 5 star hotel. Golden Plaza is different smaller one.

[QUOTE=Erich711;1313805]DK, when is Episode 2 going to get published and when you mentioned the Grand Plaza, did you mean the Golden Plaza Hotel on 9 Hàng Thùng?[/QUOTE]

I know the location very well. But have no clue about the name of the road and the address! The following link will give you an approximate location and all the Tam Quat / Nga Nghi are on the same road. Just walk into anything that looks like a motel and ask for a massage. FS for between 300-500k VND.

[url]https://maps.google.com/maps?q=21.086632[/url].105. 918594&ll=21. 086512, 105. 918707&spn=0. 001419, 0.002642&num=1&t=m&z=19&iwloc=A.

[QUOTE=Dragonball999; 1314029]Hi Knight,

Do you know the exact location in Bac Ninh. I always go there for supplier visit but never know of any massage area. I asked driver he also don't know.[/QUOTE]

Here comes the next installment of my story and experience in Hanoi. In this episode I will cover B&Gs, Massage, Cat Toc and the best of all. Secrets to free sex.

Blow & Go's.

The McDonalds of the sex world are all over SE Asia serving hot for ease of access and ease of consumption and Hanoi, owing to it's strict policing against sex trade, seems to have a generous share of this experience. Locals believe that a massage is not complete without a HJ or BJ and hence, almost all local massage joints offer some extra. And the there are some who believe why pay more and go through the whole pretentious massage experience when the end objective is a release. B&Gs do just that. And sometimes more.

Traditional B&Gs can be in the disguise of Tam Quat (massage) or Cat Toc (Haircut salons) or Cafes. Anything with a pink light (or sometimes bluish pink) is about a pop and these are usually concentrated in one area with multiple shops. Get into one, take a look at the blokes, choose one or say sorry and head to the next shop to try the blokes there. The girls are usually a 1-5 on looks but often score higher on service. I have even found some 7s and 8s there and have been pleasantly surprised. Service is never standard though most of them offer BJ and CIM, some resort to HJ after a few short blows and some stick to HJ completely. I have had amazing experiences and aweful ones as well. With some you can get on to FS as well, but it all boils down to the instant chemistry that you share. .

Hoan Kiem and Surrounding areas:

There aren't too many in this area and the ones that are there are expensive. Apart from the places.

Tran Quang Khai.

There are a few reasonable ones at Tran Quang Khai. The highway on the east of Hoan Kiem, about 10 minutes from the lake. This road has a few Tam Quats on its west side. Price is usually 200-300k.

Phuc Tan / Bach Dang.

This area is on also on the east of Hoan Kiem right along the red river starting from the Chuong Duong bridge ranging southwards. Lots of Karaokes, Cat Tocs and Tam Quats here offerring HJs and BJs. Price is similar as above for a foreigner. This area also showcases a lot of Street Walkers and Moto Girls who you can take to any of the countless motels here. Price of Motel. Usually 100k VND for an hour. Girls range from 400k to 600k. Some good ones could be 800k.

Westlake or Tay Ho area:

Nguyen Hoang Ton.

A thin street passing alongside the Ciputra International City from Lac Long Quan to Pham Van Dong. This street has at least a dozen Tam Quats with pink lights. Simple deed with pricing of 100-150k. FS is possible in the adjecent motels as well with the girl you choose for BJ. Just negotiate and she will lead you. FS usually at 400-500k.

Pham Van Dong.

Just north of Hoa Binh Peace park, all the way to Ciputra. This street is the real crazy dirty side to mongering. Whenever you notice girls sitting or hanging outside small houses for no reason, understand that you are the reason. Some offer BJ and some FS. And keeps varying. Girls are usually 4s and less. BJ. 100k, FS. 250-300k. No tips. The last place that I would go to! But that's personal preference. I know guys who actually like this place for the its filthy feel.

Thuy Khue.

Just south of WestLake, yet another street filled with the Pink Lights. Pretty much the same standard of service.

Doc Ngu.

One of the talked about places here. Prices are higher because of higher expat movement. Usually between 200-300k.

Ba Dinh, Dong the, Cau Giay, Thanh Xuan area:

Nguyen Khang street.

This street runs parallel to Duong Lang near Cau Giay and is home to the pink Tam Quat cafes. Each cafe has about 5-8 girls of various types. Guess there was some police trouble here a few weeks back and hence, these places have become a little dicreet. Price. 100k-150k VND. FS only when your are the only one for about 400-500k.

Kim Ma Street.

Some Tam Quats here as well. 298, Kim Ma is a good one though they often extort out of the foreigners. Usual price. 200-300k VND.

Tam Trinh Street.

Yet another with more than a dozen such places between 150-200k.

Dai la Street.

A couple of likely cafes with average girls.

Massage Parlours.

These are all over the town in all areas which inlcude the non-pink bigger Tam Quats, Xong Hoi / Xoa Bop Tam Quat (with Sauna / Jacuzzi) , VIP Massage, Spa, etc. Almost 90% of them offer extras. In some, a part of the experience and some known as the "Massage Baby?" experience! :-D The smaller ones usually charge 120k as service fee for 60 minutes while the bigger ones usually charge 200k for 60 minutes. 200k-300k of tips is usually considered generous.

Modus Operandi is usually the same. Walk in, check the prices (Bao Neo Tien) , choose your package, some ask you to pay upfront and some later, if they understand Emglish or if speak little Viet than specify your preference. Young, MILF, slim, voluptous, etc etc, walk in to your room and wait for the girl, ask for a change if you do not like the girl, open your clothes, get into the jacuzzi, she will wash you nicely, get out and into the sauna / steam, get the massage, get the usual HJ or BJ sometimes, pay up the tip and go home happy. This can be a nice experience with the right girl and can be spoilt if the girls starts to negotiate.

Then there are the famous talked-about ones like Sakura, Kingston, etc. Which charge 400k and a similar amount for tip. Beyond them are Oasis 1 and Oasis 2. Which usually have the best girls in town and the prices are 500k upwards and a similar amount for tip. Moscow would be different one where the girl would get into a bikini but it comes at a premium as well.

A lot of these places have been covered on this website and the rest are all over the town. All you have to do is use your common sense and you'll find one near you.

Free Sex.

The best of all experiences in Vietnam and sinfully easy to pick one. But guess I will cover this in the next update. Time to go and get a free massage after all this writing.

Basic introduction to Hanoi's nightlife.

[url]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/ReadersSubmissions2012/reader7479.htm[/url]

Hi Wet Nose. I am afraid this introduction is too old and does not hold any significance in today's Hanoi. Some items are misleading as well.

[QUOTE=Wet Nose; 1315722]Basic introduction to Hanoi's nightlife.

[url]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/ReadersSubmissions2012/reader7479.htm[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Darker Knight; 1314794]I know the location very well. But have no clue about the name of the road and the address! The following link will give you an approximate location and all the Tam Quat / Nga Nghi are on the same road. Just walk into anything that looks like a motel and ask for a massage. FS for between 300-500k VND.

[url]https://maps.google.com/maps?q=21.086632[/url]

105. 918594&ll=21. 086512, 105. 918707&spn=0. 001419, 0.002642&num=1&t=m&z=19&iwloc=A.[/QUOTE]Hi Knight.

Try your link it is not working.

Simple information

Hanoi escort agency ___ Shit. Fake pic. Cheat. Big damage. Just stay away.

Sheraton NUTZ ___ Shit, old and ugly women.

Futuna Boss Club __ Very good. 4.5 million total inlcuding everything (room, girl, mama, pub beer) Suggest No. 113.

Will go to Grand Plaza hotel tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Darker Knight;1312124]CL was a complete disappointment for me. 2 oldies (40+) and 3 kids (18-) and am not into either of them. The rest on CL were either Trannys or gays. Not my style again. TNH was nice and I did meet quite a few pretty girls from there.[/QUOTE]I agree with DK's sentiments here. There is plenty of free sex available in Hanoi if you are patient and use your natural charm. CL is a complete waste of time and energy. Don't bother answering any ads you see there. They will either be gays (as DK says) or hookers. Nothing else of interest there.

TNH is a real option. Answering any ad placed by Viet girls with a bit of gentle flirting will almost certainly lead to fun times. Many of them are hanging to be with a foreign man who will treat them even half decently. Viet men are notoriously awful at this. Be kind, smile a lot, buy a few drinks and she will, in time, give you anything you want. My tip. Don't go for the younger, arrogant and flashy girls. Look for someone in their late 20s-30s, in their prime with a little experience under their belt. The rewards are well worth it. Be smart about how you word your ads on TNH. Moderators will remove ads that are too racy. Answering ads is generally more productive than placing them.

Bars are an option too but watch out for girls who will try and get you buying drinks for them and their friends all night on a promise that will never happen. Girls in bars are not typically hunting that hard really. Ads on TNH are from hunters who really want some time with a lovely foreign man.

DIA is another option but with slim pickings. There are a few genuinely interested women on there and a couple of outright hookers who will simply message you asking you if you want to fuck for $100. DIA is probably a longer path, especially if you don't load a photo as postings are restricted then.

Having said all of that. I'm still a sucker for a great massage and extras. Always interested in new options there. Particularly if anyone knows of girls who will come to your home for massages. Very interested in this.

I used to monger varies part of China and Taiwan, yall can see some of my post in Taipei forum although I have not post anything for long time due to having too much freebies. Just my luck, company sent me to Hanoi for 3 days biz trip. Before arriving, a quick RTFF and Fortuna came mentioned many times and stuck in my mind. Tuesday night, taken out for dinner and drinks by friends (Vietnam Custom officers). End of dinner, the guys want to drink elsewhere, one of the guy mentioned Fortuna and I got excited instantly. The resturant was only 5 min drive from Fortuna. Quickly arrived and went downstair for typical KTV action just like Taiwan. After 3rd round of viewing, I picked a gal name Lan, she spoken a bit of english and we quickly got cozy and my hands were all over her. The talent in Fortuna was better than I expected but I do know the price for take out will be higher. Other guys need to leave fairly quick after settle in for an hour. So one of the guy ask me if I like to take Lan back to my hotel (Saigon hotel) for some fun. Sure why not, she had great smile, silky smooth skin, great rack and cheerful personality. However, she said she only can come after midnight. Since it's about 9:30, I agree to take her number and call her around midnight to have her come over. Mommy told me the price was 2hr 100usd, or 150 all night long which I didn't have problem since it's normally what I pay in Taiwan. The room damage from one of guy told me it's quite expensive but I didn't pay for it so no idea. So the very same guy offered to drive me back to hotel, in the car he started chatting about how expensive Fortuna is, local Vietnam men pay much less. And I proceed to ask him what's like of the places he talks about and he decided to take me. The drive was long about an hour from city center, I only can make out it's same direction to the airport but further. As time goes, we started to driving into country side and I really have no ideas where we are. The destination has long stretch of road with hotels on both side. We went into few hotels but no girls and finally settle on one. I manage to find a girl after reject 2 of them. Her looks I give 5, but body and everything else is 7. Took a quick shower with her and got onto bed. The service was ok just with HJ to get me hard then she hop on me to finish. Nothing worth mentioning but it was a release. The price was 20 for the room and 20 for the girl. Based on the information I've gotten, it's a red light district in Hanoi and only locals come. As for myself will never know this place exist or able to find it again. By the time we got back into town at almost 1am. Still feeling want to get more release, I decided to call Lan if she is willing to come over at this late. To my surpise, she said she is nearby and will be at my hotel in 15 min. Indeed she shows up in 10 min and we got down to business. Since it's quite late, I told her I only need 2 hr and will pay for taxi to take her home. To make the long story short, she was very good in bed, very cooperative with BBJ and any style you can think of. By end of our session, she said she was too tired to go home and ask if was ok for her to sleep over. Since I don't have much cash on hand and my worthless computer in room. I agreed and we slept. During the night she acted like my gf, fold my clothes and brings me water and smokes. I was quite please how she tried to please me. Next morning I had to get to the meeting and going back to Taiwan, so we had breakfast at the hotel and went our seperate way.

Overall, I had a great night esp. With Lan staying over. My next visit to Hanoi I'm not sure if I will go to the red light district again. I would rather just go Fortuna and pick out the girl / s I like and have them come over to my hotel.

[QUOTE=Roni44;1324170]...However, she said she only can come after midnight... ...the price was 2hr 100usd, or 150 all night long which I didn't have problem since it's normally what I pay in Taiwan... ...one of guy told me it's quite expensive but I didn't pay for it so no idea...[/QUOTE]Next time I hope they charge you 200 because it is still cheaper than back home. They surely get the message.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1324270]Next time I hope they charge you 200 because it is still cheaper than back home. They surely get the message.[/QUOTE]I will gladly to pay 200 if the gal is right. About to ask for 3p next time if it's available.

OK.

Outside of ciputra, there are several shops offer BJ and go.

Check the Banner, Cafe that offers Tam Quat.

I believe Tam Quat is a massage.

This place translates it as your dick massage.

Many shops has Blue-white blind at the door or enterance.

Price rance is 130k-200k. I think if you can speak vietnamese you can lower the price to 100k.

Just enjoying the simplicity of blow job or hand job.

This place you don't look girls, body. Just let it out.

You don't have to pay fee in advance. I found that's very odd.

I did 6 times with different shops.

There are some shops girls kiss your nipple but not suck your dick.

Or and some girls just love to suck your dick

You can touch her, and if she is pretty and young you can kiss her.

But not recommend. It might ruin everything.

Somewhere nearby cemetry, she was young and sexy.

Probably hard to believe she works in this shop.

Usually girls in the shops are old or bit fugly, .

For less than 200k someone helps to masterbate.

So face and body not important,

But she was very pretty one.

I think her name was Tu.

And she was very good. So I touch her boobs and slowly I move to her bottom.

And I feel weird. And Tu is a dude.

I came few moment later but it was very weird moment and I could go after that

[QUOTE=HanoiSex; 1326814]OK.

Outside of ciputra, there are several shops offer BJ and go.

Check the Banner, Cafe that offers Tam Quat.

I believe Tam Quat is a massage.[/QUOTE]What street are these places on? Any address numbers would be useful. Especially which number shop you got the dude at so it can be avoided!

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins;1326888]What street are these places on? Any address numbers would be useful. Especially which number shop you got the dude at so it can be avoided![/QUOTE]I don't know much about street name and shop number.

Ciputra has 4 exits. 3 exits are in the same line, and the other is another side.

BJ shops are in the line between 3 exits.

It was very fun experience for me after I worked before I go home.

Like an icy cold beer.

But my last experience. Even though I cumed, I could not go there.

However, all of my masterbation-aid experiences are very good.

And no timing. Just keep rubbing and sucking until I cum.

[QUOTE=Roni44;1324170]So one of the guy ask me if I like to take Lan back to my hotel (Saigon hotel) for some fun.[/QUOTE]Did the Saigon hotel give you a difficult time about bringing a girl back at that late of the night? Why didn't you stay at the Fortuna, wouldn't it be easier to bring the girl upstairs at the Fortuna?

I agree with CaseyStar comments on the use of various web sites and have written about my experiences in Vietnam before but if I may I would like to repeat my experiences for the benefit of new members. I was fortunate to work in Hanoi for three years and enjoyed more free sex in Vietnam than anywhere else I have worked.

I am in my late 50's although I am told that I look a lot younger and had a pleasant apartment overlooking Truc Bach lake which certainly helped in my quest. I am not into younger girls preferring the 35-50 age range as not only do I consider them much more adventurous in bed they are also much better company and are looking for less complicated relationships, one thing that did surprise me was the amount of married ladies who were looking for a western sex partner.

The first lady I met was in a small restaurant where she helped translate for me, she was married and was attending a course in Hanoi for two months, we met several times at the restaurant and the night before her return to the south we spent a fantastic night together. After this I started to work hard on various web sites and found the most successful were TNH, Date in Asia and Tagged. My first encounter on THN was with 33 year old who seemed to be in it for the money she asked for 1000000VND but settled for 800000 for three hours one evening and she was one of the best fucks ever and promised to stay all night the next week for the same money. Two weeks later she texted asking if she could come and spend the night for free and that relationship lasted until my contract came to an end and was the only time I paid for sex in Vietnam.

Date in Asia provided me with three ladies one was a television reporter on secondment from the south the second a married lady who said that her husband had never satisfied her and a friend had said she should try a western man as they had bigger cocks, she would call every other week when she fancied having a little fun, the third was a wild one but she wanted to go a little further than being a fuck buddy so I had to cool that relationship a little.

Tagged proved by far to be the best resource throwing up over ten encounters with the most memorable being a university lecturer in her 50's, married with the body of a 20 year old and a sexual appetite that even succeeded mine. A very cute girl who lived in the next street and was engaged to a American who enjoyed popping around when he was out of town on business and would bring her laptop with photographs of them having sex together and a fashion designer who suggested on one occasion she bring a friend with her as she had always wanted to see her fucked.

There were a few I never managed to persuade into bed but we would still meet for a drink or a meal and I still enjoyed the chase and never gave up. There is plenty of free pussy out there if you are prepared to put a little hard work in.

I was curious about this, since I have never seen nor heard of ladyboys in Vietnam. So I cruised all the tam quats along that road near the cemetery, and did not see any ambiguous looking ladies. But I did see one place with a group of ok looking girls, so I went in. Nice surprise! 45 minutes or so with a nice studenty type girl who was responsive to me. I kissed her breasts for a long time and slowly undressed her. She would not let me touch her pussy, but allowed me to kiss it, just lowering her pink and white panties a bit. So I decided to go for it. I pushed her back on the bed, raised her thighs and got to work with my tongue. She closed her eyes and opened her mouth, tensing and sighing. She shifted the angle of my head a few times and I felt her come silently. All this just behind a curtain, and I could hear mates playing cards. She gave me a sweet smile and I lay beside her a while. Then she stood up, I dropped my trousers, out came the wet wipes, and she did what she's been trained to do. Afterwards, I tipped her well, promised to return, and walked out as she sat down to rejoin the card game.

After 24 hours of fantasising all the things I am going to do with her, I went back, but couldn't find the place! They all look the same, and I think different ones open and close each day. Good though for the memory. I tried that street a few times before and it was boring. Nothing more than an assisted wank. It just depends who you get.

[QUOTE=HanoiSex; 1326814]OK.

Outside of ciputra, there are several shops offer BJ and go.

Check the Banner, Cafe that offers Tam Quat.

I believe Tam Quat is a massage.

This place translates it as your dick massage.

Many shops has Blue-white blind at the door or enterance.

Price rance is 130k-200k. I think if you can speak vietnamese you can lower the price to 100k.

Just enjoying the simplicity of blow job or hand job.

This place you don't look girls, body. Just let it out.

You don't have to pay fee in advance. I found that's very odd.

I did 6 times with different shops.

There are some shops girls kiss your nipple but not suck your dick.

Or and some girls just love to suck your dick

You can touch her, and if she is pretty and young you can kiss her.

But not recommend. It might ruin everything.

Somewhere nearby cemetry, she was young and sexy.

Probably hard to believe she works in this shop.

Usually girls in the shops are old or bit fugly, .

For less than 200k someone helps to masterbate.

So face and body not important,

But she was very pretty one.

I think her name was Tu.

And she was very good. So I touch her boobs and slowly I move to her bottom.

And I feel weird. And Tu is a dude.

I came few moment later but it was very weird moment and I could go after that[/QUOTE]

Hey guys,

I just been hanoi around one month, anyone of you still in hanoi? Maybe we can have a tea time session.

[QUOTE=Gromit8;1327245]Did the Saigon hotel give you a difficult time about bringing a girl back at that late of the night? Why didn't you stay at the Fortuna, wouldn't it be easier to bring the girl upstairs at the Fortuna?[/QUOTE]The night auditor at Saigon was a younger guy, he just opened the door for Lan and off we go. While we were partying at Fortuna, all the guys are leaving and Lan was not available after mid-night. Plus I was going back to hotel finish some report but went to a working girl house instead. I do have her phone number but not sure if it's good idea to pass it out.

[QUOTE=Hotmail66; 1328306]Hey guys,

I just been hanoi around one month, anyone of you still in Hanoi? Maybe we can have a tea time session.[/QUOTE]Iam in hanoi. I prefer a beer session.

First, you need to test your social skill.

Friday night but 10-11 pm, go to Dragon Fly or Funky Buddha. If you can find at least 1-2 girls to hang out, your sex life is good in Hanoi.

They are not a one-night stand, but once you get to know them you will get a lot of sex.

IF you can't, I think TNH is the solution.

Many girls in Hanoi looking for boyfriends.

Please avoid the younger one.

Between 30s & 40s.

Usually meet a cafe, buy her drink, and chat. And go to park to see lake or someting.

Next date, meet a food place, buy her meal. She will probably hug or kiss.

3rd date you will have sex. Probably 8 of 10.

Be patient. Make her feel comfortable and know you somehow.

30s-40s in TNH probably have a job. Some married. Widows.

When you do, go to mobile phone shop.

Buy cheap nokia phone with 100k sim card.

And probably you know what this mean.

Hello gents,

Can someone tell me if either Le Foyer Hotel and Sunshine Suites are GF? And also how the weather is in December?

Thanks

[QUOTE=BlazeOn420; 1329448]Hello gents,

Can someone tell me if either Le Foyer Hotel and Sunshine Suites are GF? And also how the weather is in December?

Thanks[/QUOTE]December will be cool, or even cold, depending on your temperature tolerance.

[QUOTE=Pak Mike;1329794]December will be cool, or even cold, depending on your temperature tolerance.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply Pak Mike. I'm from Michigan so my tolerance is pretty high when it comes to cold weather.

[QUOTE=HanoiSex; 1329140]First, you need to test your social skill.

Friday night but 10-11 pm, go to Dragon Fly or Funky Buddha. If you can find at least 1-2 girls to hang out, your sex life is good in Hanoi.

They are not a one-night stand, but once you get to know them you will get a lot of sex.

IF you can't, I think TNH is the solution.

Many girls in Hanoi looking for boyfriends.

Please avoid the younger one.

Between 30s & 40s.

Usually meet a cafe, buy her drink, and chat. And go to park to see lake or someting.

Next date, meet a food place, buy her meal. She will probably hug or kiss.

3rd date you will have sex. Probably 8 of 10.

Be patient. Make her feel comfortable and know you somehow.

30s-40s in TNH probably have a job. Some married. Widows.

When you do, go to mobile phone shop.

Buy cheap nokia phone with 100k sim card.

And probably you know what this mean.[/QUOTE]Forgive my ignorance but what is TNH?

[QUOTE=Mantrini;1329850]Forgive my ignorance but what is TNH?[/QUOTE]The New Hanoian. It's a website for expats in Hanoi and HCMC, it has a section for dating and meeting people.

Hi Guys.

I Will be in Hanoi soon. Thanks to you, I have a nice plan 1) moscow 2) sakura 3) oasis 2 4) doc ngu.

By the way I found some informations on the website adultsearch. Com. Most of the places refer to Nguyen van cu. I did not find too much informations on this street on this forum.

By the way, I am wondering wether or not to go to a KTV since I will by alone. Is there any good not too expensive KTV where to have some fun even if you are a newbie as me? I am still not sure to have understand what you get in a KTV? A nice girl sitting close to you and teasing you? And that s all?

Thanks again.

Tom

[QUOTE=Pmolikuj;1329967].By the way I found some informations on the website adultsearch.com . Most of the places refer to Nguyen van cu. I did not find too much informations on this street on this forum.[/QUOTE]A website that lists Apocalypse now in Hanoi. Beware! That is far not all they got mixed up that I can recognize with my limited knowledge. Almost no reviews either.

[QUOTE=Pak Mike;1329794]December will be cool, or even cold, depending on your temperature tolerance.[/QUOTE]And the other part of the question? .

"Can someone tell me if either Le Foyer Hotel and Sunshine Suites are GF?"

I'm making my first visit to Hanoi and Saigon . I've searched the forum (great info!). But found only the Sheraton and Fortuna as possible GF's in Hanoi. But the Fortuna seems fully booked and the Sheraton gets the thumbs down from many posters.

In other countries, (Caribbean, Thailand, Europe) , I usually prefer to take the girl back to my place, (safety & comfort) , but I'm getting the idea this may not be the approach in Vietnam?

Suggestions / advice please?

(By the way, it has to be the full boom-boom!)

(and similar for Saigon?)

Thanks.

[QUOTE=DeepLiamG; 1330699]And the other part of the question? .

I'm making my first visit to Hanoi and Saigon. I've searched the forum (great info!). But found only the Sheraton and Fortuna as possible GF's in Hanoi. But the Fortuna seems fully booked and the Sheraton gets the thumbs down from many posters.

In other countries, (Caribbean, Thailand, Europe) , I usually prefer to take the girl back to my place, (safety & comfort) , but I'm getting the idea this may not be the approach in Vietnam?[/QUOTE]I'm picking up the same vibe as you are DeepLiamG. I've searched the forums also, and it appears the best bet is to stick with the lower star hotels. Either that or you have to take care of business before 9pm at your room. Looks like we'll just have to adapt to the environment. I'm looking forward to it!

My experience of living in Ciputra was boring.

But I started to realize Ciputra can be fun.

Just walk outside of gates, you will find several shops to help you jerk off (Blow job+Handjob for Ave. 150K vnd)

The problem is I want it more, but you don't want to sex with girls in the shop.

Most girls there are fugly.

There is a mini shop or CVS.

I usually go there for milk and juice.

But often the store closed in the middle of days.

And locked inside of store.

I thought lady in the store took a nap or something.

Several weeks ago, I waited until store reopened.

The door opened, and old man walked out.

Several days later, I asked about rate.

She responded "What?" I told her "I know"

She told me 500K.

I am thinking about doing it.

Shoud I?

[QUOTE=HanoiSex; 1331500]I usually go there for milk and juice.

I am thinking about doing it.

Shoud I?[/QUOTE]Of course you should go for it. And report back on how well she milked your juice.

Do not go or let a taxi take you to 90 Quan Thanh, scam! They quote you 500. 000 VND and then they present you with a bill for $225. 00! You re in the room with 2 guys, and it does not help to negotiate. I paid and went to the police station next day. They are investigating.

Avoid Moscow at any cost, Oasis2 not bad, but expensive. A real nice one I found is on 200 Yen Phu (go down the road toward the lake there is a hotel or country club) it's right behind, you can't miss it as there are billboards or ask the security guy. 350. 000 for 90 minutes of a nice massage, steam room, jacuzzi, hot stones and extras HJ only 300. 000 to 500. 000 depending on the girl.

For those than can splurge, the Boss night club at Hotel Hanoi. Takeaway of over 100 girls to chose from $100. 00 ST $150. 00 LT you can get a room there or just take her to your place. Drinks are very expensive and LD is $35. 00.

Beware also of taxis, many scams (rigged meter, or some that hid the coma before the thousands) use reliable companies like Taxigroup or Mai Linh and again do not let a taxi take you to a massage place or karaoke.

Almost 6 weeks in Nam and love it here.

Destinla, I am curious about your experience in Hanoi. You got robbed in a massage place, which is actually pretty rare. They forced you to give up 225 USD? That's four and a half million dong! Must have been a damn good HJ! And what happened to you at Moscow? Other reports are positive. Yes, taxis occasionally try it on, but only for an extra dollar or 2. But despite all, you're loving it. So you must be having a good time in the other places. Tell us more. My advice is try everything. Upmarket spas, the dirty backstreet tam quats and everything in between. There's no consistency and while some are a waste of time and money, along the way you'll meet some real lovelies who will do whatever it takes to please you. Once you show willing to pay them a little more and build up a rapport.

Look forward to next reports.

[QUOTE=Destinla; 1332207]Do not go or let a taxi take you to 90 Quan Thanh, scam! They quote you 500. 000 VND and then they present you with a bill for $225. 00! You re in the room with 2 guys, and it does not help to negotiate. I paid and went to the police station next day. They are investigating.

Avoid Moscow at any cost, Oasis2 not bad, but expensive. A real nice one I found is on 200 Yen Phu (go down the road toward the lake there is a hotel or country club) it's right behind, you can't miss it as there are billboards or ask the security guy. 350. 000 for 90 minutes of a nice massage, steam room, jacuzzi, hot stones and extras HJ only 300. 000 to 500. 000 depending on the girl.

For those than can splurge, the Boss night club at Hotel Hanoi. Takeaway of over 100 girls to chose from $100. 00 ST $150. 00 LT you can get a room there or just take her to your place. Drinks are very expensive and LD is $35. 00.

Beware also of taxis, many scams (rigged meter, or some that hid the coma before the thousands) use reliable companies like Taxigroup or Mai Linh and again do not let a taxi take you to a massage place or karaoke.

Almost 6 weeks in Nam and love it here.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Joffre; 1332821]Destinla, I am curious about your experience in Hanoi. You got robbed in a massage place, which is actually pretty rare. They forced you to give up 225 USD? That's four and a half million dong! Must have been a damn good HJ! And what happened to you at Moscow? Other reports are positive. Yes, taxis occasionally try it on, but only for an extra dollar or 2. But despite all, you're loving it. So you must be having a good time in the other places. Tell us more. My advice is try everything. Upmarket spas, the dirty backstreet tam quats and everything in between. There's no consistency and while some are a waste of time and money, along the way you'll meet some real lovelies who will do whatever it takes to please you. Once you show willing to pay them a little more and build up a rapport.

Look forward to next reports.[/QUOTE]Hello Joffre,

Thanks for your input, it's true it is very rare to get robbed in a massage place, it was 1 am, just left a bar in Ta Hien and I've let my guards down and allowed the taxi to take me to the massage place. I did file a report the next morning at the Police station on 61 Quan Thanh. 3 hours later they called me, they arrested the guy, also brought the owne, are a certain Ms Ngoc she was in tears and all apologetic and I did get my money back. It's part of the experience. And something to write about.

Moscow : It was just a hygiene issue, the place is below par, and just one girl, Yen on duty and compared to other places I ve been to it's not worth it at all.

Tam Quat : Not really my cup of tea. Tried a Hot Toc in HCMC, loved it there (amazing BBBJ).

Karoke: Fortuna, amazing selection. I prefer Boss at Hanoi hotel, more relax, time to have a drink at the bar, time to scan the selection, and the 2 times I ve been there It was a great experience for an overnight my fav is Chang. 42 kgs of cuteness and she is a wonderful player. $150. 00 and she left at 11 am.

VietnamCupid: get a platinum membership $25. 00 and get ready to meet them by the dozens if you have the time. I scored with 5 of them. Freebies all of them, just treat them nice and with respect and dine them in a nice place. Last night I met my gem 5'8 which is rare for a Viet girl. We went on a regular date, we re meeting again for 3rd base.

Massage: I am a regular at 200 Yen Phu, service is wonderful. 90 minutes of pure delight and Lan will make you cum from your pores my friend. 350. 000 + 500. 000 for Lan she deserve it.

On a side note : Linh at Oasis, boobs to die for and the sweetest girl you can meet.

TNH : When I first arrived, I ve put an ad in the personals section, did get a few responses and one from pimps named Otto and Angela, offering some girls as escort for 800. 000 3 hours (companion only) the rest up to the girl. And also from a girl names Ella? She fucked me for $50. 00 not worth it. Starfish!

CL : I met a kinky office type girl, loves to fuck and can hook you up with a sexslave! If you re in the mood for this kind of play. She is high maintenance, she charges $100. 00 for 2 hours and negotiable for additional time. She advertises under "Juicy girl for hot steamy time".

Restaurants: Pane e Vino, Indochine, Pots and Pans, Tadioto. Etc. Etc.

If you want to fall in love 3 or 4 times a day. Come to Viet Nam. Cheers!

I know that Craigslist girl you are talking about. She and I have a bit of a regular thing going on. She is a manager at one of the big hotels in Hanoi. She really enjoys sex and I think she meets guys to satisfy her need and to supplement her income a bit. She's not really a working girl in the traditional sense; more of a high class escort is how I would describe her. Or to borrow a Japanese euphemism you can consider time with her as "compensated dating".

I really enjoy spending time with her as she is well educated and very engaging. She enjoys being taken out to dinner and generally being spoiled by her guy. She has fluent English which really makes life easy for everyone.

It really is the full on girlfriend experience with her. I've enjoyed many romantic dinners with her before heading back to my place for some serious bedroom antics. She's small with a great body and she loves sex more than any other girl I've ever met.

Cheap Charlies definitely don't need to contact her, but if you don't mind splashing out to spend time with a classy girl them she's well worth it in my opinion. I know how much she asks for very much depends on the guy and her circumstances at the time, as I think she is the main breadwinner for her family. So telling you what I gift her wouldn't help.

If you want a cheap and dirty fuck, then she's not going to be the girl for you, but if you want to have something a bit more meaningful and intimate she's worth the effort and the price. I'm happy to pass on her contact details via PM.

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For 500K, I thought it would be an quick sex, but no.

She closed the shop by locked inside of store, we went to small space in storage room.

She asked me to take pants down. Rub my leg, and wipe my private including anus by wet tissues.

Blow me for several min.

And ask me to turn around and bend over. She started to suck my anus.

Very arousing. She rubbed around my butt.

Used massage oil or baby oil around my anus. And put her fingers in.

I didn't see that coming, it was fast but soft.

I started to moan.

Go deep inside,

Then she started to hand job with my penis. Both her hands now busy.

Hand job was very sex.

I believed when she started to stimulate my prostate.

What I see was yellowish. Dizzy. Weird feeling all together.

I cum very fast. Probably less than 10 mins.

But I felt very good and clean.

She wiped my mess with wet tissue again.

I tried to kiss her but rejected.

My legs are very tired. But very good feeling.

After this, I went home and took a nap for 3 hours

Very good.

[QUOTE=HanoiSex; 1334321]She asked me to take pants down. Rub my leg, and wipe my private including anus by wet tissues.

Blow me for several min.

And ask me to turn around and bend over. She started to suck my anus.

Very arousing.

Very good.[/QUOTE]Great report, glad you followed through. Now you know it's for real you should post the address so that others can try out her milking technique too!

Wow, what a great report! I popped down there as soon as I read it. I went into each convenience store and pointed knowingly at the back room, and at my arse. They just looked at me blankly, and one of them showed me the toilet.

That lady has discovered what many men want, but few will admit to. They should add it to the Ciputra list of services for residents! And the lady should buy herself a strap on.

If this were London, it would be a homely corner shop keeper secretly spanking high court judges in the back room. I wonder if she'll do that.

Can you tell us where it is? Or should we just look out for a closed shop with a queue of blokes outside, and others leaving with a smile and a slight limp?

[QUOTE=HanoiSex; 1334321]For 500K, I thought it would be an quick sex, but no.

Closed the shop by locked inside of store, we went to small space in storage room.

And ask me to turn around and bend over. She started to suck my anus.

Very arousing. She rubbed around my butt.

Used massage oil or baby oil around my anus. And put her fingers in.

I didn't see that coming, it was fast but soft.

I started to moan.

Go deep inside,

Very good.[/QUOTE]

Is Moscow really good?

I visited Moscow last Aug and had not good experience.

According to the some articles in this forum, it seems like they offer really good service though, it was different with what I experienced.

At the front, a mamasan said,"you can be the VIP from the second visit. And we offer 90 minutes service. But now you are first time visitor, so you can take only 60 minutes course"

Her English was poor so it was hard to communicate though, this is what I understood.

The process was as same as I heard of. But the girl didn't give me any GFE services. Only HJ at the end.

Anyone who've been to Moscow recently?

I think Moscow has different policy now.

I think she can only take few clients, worry about getting new clients.

Mini mart I don't know but probably she is not an owner so she can close the shop all the time.

And Mini mart is the main business.

Only reason she is doing milking for few clients to make extra cash.

I can tell you where it is, but I am worrying that if it gets too popular. I might not do this again.

About milking, I don't know I will do it again.

Very strange. And there's strong stimulation to feel again, and I tried during the shower. And I realized I can't do it myself.

But I am not a gay. So very mess up and confused.

But I want to have an option.

When I want to do, I will go to mini mart for milking.

So please understand my situation.

But it's not very hard to find that place, and she is not that pretty. But not fugly. About late 20s-early 30s.

Typical local vina girl.

[QUOTE=Joffre; 1334646]Wow, what a great report! I popped down there as soon as I read it. I went into each convenience store and pointed knowingly at the back room, and at my arse. They just looked at me blankly, and one of them showed me the toilet.

That lady has discovered what many men want, but few will admit to. They should add it to the Ciputra list of services for residents! And the lady should buy herself a strap on.

If this were London, it would be a homely corner shop keeper secretly spanking high court judges in the back room. I wonder if she'll do that.

Can you tell us where it is? Or should we just look out for a closed shop with a queue of blokes outside, and others leaving with a smile and a slight limp?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Axma4; 1334958]Is Moscow really good?

I visited Moscow last Aug and had not good experience.

According to the some articles in this forum, it seems like they offer really good service though, it was different with what I experienced.[/QUOTE]Moscow can be pretty hit and miss. I assume you're referring to my report for good service. I've only had the one truly sensational experience there that I wrote about. I've been a few other times and only come away with a handjob at the end of it, with various levels of play with the girls in between.

In terms of whether or not you get a good experience, I think as with many places it all depends on the girl you get. Unfortunately I never got the name of the girl who screwed my brains out in the sauna and haven't had the good fortune to get her again since.

As for the "only able to have 60 minutes for first time visit". I've been a number of times and it was only on my last visit a few weeks ago that this first happened to me. I didn't have the VIP card they give out to you at the end of a massage and I wasn't able to convince them I'd been before so could only get 60 minutes. Really not sure why they do this, especially when they are not busy.

I still go back every now and again hoping to have another top quality girl, but hope seems to be fading. I do still enjoy the experience of having a girl in a bikini taking you around, but I appreciate that not everyone is prepared to put up with the hit and miss nature of the experience given the cost.

Some more free experiences. I recommend anyone who is living in Hanoi for a few years to retain past contacts. You just never know when they will pop up once again.

Just this week I received a call from a girl I met two years ago at a VIP massage place. Last I heard from her she left that area of work and works in a hotel. She called, having found my number and wanted to "go for cafe'. I met her, bought her a drink and we chatted for a while. Then she came back to my place and we had a beautiful sexy evening together. She's gorgeous, slim and lithe and gives amazing head jobs as well as really enjoying sex. Had a wonderful and very unexpected evening. I gave her money for a taxi home, that's it. She did not ask for or expect to be paid, just wanted a nice sexy evening with a nice foreign guy she remembered. Lucky me! No doubt we will do it again soon as she lives quite close to me.

So, yeah, hang on to those phone numbers. Maybe even drop a text or two every now and then. Showing a girl a good time and treating her well a while ago can linger in her memory and bring its own rewards.

Enjoy!

Milking can be very strange and powerful experience.

But. Not very recommended.

Ok. I did twice.

After milking, regular sex is very hard to focus.

Not enough arousing.

Just hard to reach cum.

Milking itself, make me very tired.

After milking, I didn't get turned on for 2-3 days.

I am very horny person.

And when she milked me,

She did hand job from behind. Twisted my penis (got picture?)

That's what I like nowadays.

And that's really hard to ask girls to do.

Problem problem

Hey Hanoi Sex,

Next time you go to Bangkok, I recommend you visit Mistress Jaa (look up her website). It'll cost you deep, but she will make your dreams (or nightmares) come true.

And now please tell us which minimart! At least which Ciputra gate?

Milking itself, make me

I am very horny person.

And when she milked me,

Problem problem[/QUOTE]

Casey Star is right. If you've lived here a few years, speak a bit of the language, have your own place (living alone) , have enough free time, take care of yourself and are friendly and respectful, then you'll have an amazing time. You'll be up to your eyeballs in it! But that's true of most parts of the world, isn't it? I guess the difference is that only in Vietnam, and Hanoi especially, are all the women so desirable. Where else could you go in the world and find that every woman gives you the horn?

And for those of us who are newly arrived, don't speak a word of Vietnamese, live with our wives and kids, work long hours, and are fat, ugly and socially inept? Well, you can still get sucked off safely in a side street for a fiver. What a great country!

And as Casey says, the text message is a great invention. You meet someone nice, who gives you the look, you exchange numbers, and then start with suggestive texts. Use google translate and tell her things like "I want to kiss your nipples" (toi muon hon num vu cua them). See where it goes. But make sure you don't get them mixed up with your work colleagues, especially when they're all called Thuy and Trang.

[QUOTE=CaseyStar; 1336174]Some more free experiences. I recommend anyone who is living in Hanoi for a few years to retain past contacts. You just never know when they will pop up once again.

Just this week I received a call from a girl I met two years ago at a VIP massage place. Last I heard from her she left that area of work and works in a hotel. She called, having found my number and wanted to "go for cafe'. I met her, bought her a drink and we chatted for a while. Then she came back to my place and we had a beautiful sexy evening together. She's gorgeous, slim and lithe and gives amazing head jobs as well as really enjoying sex. Had a wonderful and very unexpected evening. I gave her money for a taxi home, that's it. She did not ask for or expect to be paid, just wanted a nice sexy evening with a nice foreign guy she remembered. Lucky me! No doubt we will do it again soon as she lives quite close to me.

So, yeah, hang on to those phone numbers. Maybe even drop a text or two every now and then. Showing a girl a good time and treating her well a while ago can linger in her memory and bring its own rewards.

Enjoy![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins; 1335284]Moscow can be pretty hit and miss. I assume you're referring to my report for good service. I've only had the one truly sensational experience there that I wrote about. I've been a few other times and only come away with a handjob at the end of it, with various levels of play with the girls in between.

In terms of whether or not you get a good experience, I think as with many places it all depends on the girl you get. Unfortunately I never got the name of the girl who screwed my brains out in the sauna and haven't had the good fortune to get her again since.

As for the "only able to have 60 minutes for first time visit". I've been a number of times and it was only on my last visit a few weeks ago that this first happened to me. I didn't have the VIP card they give out to you at the end of a massage and I wasn't able to convince them I'd been before so could only get 60 minutes. Really not sure why they do this, especially when they are not busy.

I still go back every now and again hoping to have another top quality girl, but hope seems to be fading. I do still enjoy the experience of having a girl in a bikini taking you around, but I appreciate that not everyone is prepared to put up with the hit and miss nature of the experience given the cost.[/QUOTE]Was at Moscow last week. Went with high expectations but was quite disappointed. Had to pay 600 ticket as it was my first time. Got a cutie around 7 but a bit of a starfish. She kept sitting behind me massaging my neck in the steam and sauna as well as the jacuzzi and pushed my hand away when I touched her thigh. Massage was competent without being exceptional. Closed with a HJ offer for an absurd 800K which I turned down. Left tipping 100K which she was very upset about. Wanted 500K. Overall pretty much a disappointment and not worth the ticket price. Plenty of better VIP massages available at half the ticket price.

Just curios.

Many handjob / blowjob places in Hanoi, they use wet tissue to clean.

And I realized they are from Vietnam Airline.

Anybody know why?

Hey guys,

Visited Cat Ba 2 weeks ago and stayed at Sunflower Hotel. I have GPS coordinates but I think it's already listed in Wikitravel.

There's a MP across the narrow street a stone's throw away to the left. It's lit up in red at night with about 6 MLs rating from 5 to 8 in looks and body. Ticket price for boom boom is 300k dong and tips range from 50k to 200k. I believe they close around 1 am. Sucky plus massage is at 400k plus the same tips but these girls can't massage worth a damn so just stick with boom boom.

Walk 5 minutes to the left of the hotel and you'll see another MP in red. Ticket price 400k dong but the girls are only 6s at most.

Another 5 minutes to the right and there's another MP, but not lit up in red. The massage here is a joke and the girls won't get naked no matter how romantic or friendly you act.

I picked the prettiest girl in the closest MP with the smoothest skin I've ever touched named Ayin. Bad mistake. Started nagging for her tip the second I got undressed. Wouldn't accept less than 200k but couldn't even speak English. She only knew the words "tip","no" and "more".1 pop only. No kissing, cuddling, BJ or intimacy of any kind. Pretty much a starfish. She even did a victory dance when horny little me forced me to give up the cash.

Thinking back, I probably should have tried talking and joking with the girls before choosing. My friend got a friendly girl who spoke good English and didn't mind a second pop while they watched TV together.

Tips: Bring your own condoms, never show the contents of your wallet to anyone. In fact, just bring 500k with you, and don't judge a girl by her looks.

Is this something you think about during a session, to delay the climax and prolong the fun?

I think the next time you are flying with Vietnam Airlines, you should ask a helpful flight attendant about this. Her English might not be quite enough to understand, so you'll need to use gestures.

[QUOTE=HanoiSex; 1339078]Just curios.

Many handjob / blowjob places in Hanoi, they use wet tissue to clean.

And I realized they are from Vietnam Airline.

Anybody know why?[/QUOTE]

You think a few Vietnam Air flight Attendants may be pulling double shifts in blow-job joints with their own wet wipes?

[QUOTE=HanoiSex; 1339078]Just curios.

Many handjob / blowjob places in Hanoi, they use wet tissue to clean.

And I realized they are from Vietnam Airline.

Anybody know why?[/QUOTE]

Not the most beautiful gal but she is an over achiever. Great effort at deep throat and anal is possible. Asks too much but for an over night with multiple pops, I paid.

Staying at Movenpick for 3 nights November 8, 9.10th. Is there anything available at the hotel spa? I suspect not so can you point me in the right direction for action as close as possible to this hotel.

I have RTFF but do not really understand the geography of Hanoi. If I appeara lazy bastard I apologise.

Hi,

Anyone have experience with the Rosaliza hotel? I will visit for a few nights this week, but not sure I can bring back a girl for overnight. I have a DIA girl or two interested.

[QUOTE=Robert the Brave; 1340236]Staying at Movenpick for 3 nights November 8, 9.10th. Is there anything available at the hotel spa? I suspect not so can you point me in the right direction for action as close as possible to this hotel.

I have RTFF but do not really understand the geography of Hanoi. If I appeara lazy bastard I apologise.[/QUOTE]It really depends what you want, but your hotel is reasonably centrally located. Don't know anything about the spa at your hotel but would be surprised if there was anything on offer. You can find your hotel on Google Maps by searching for; Movenpick hotel, Hanoi, Vietnam. I'd suggest picking out the spots you like the sound of from previous reports and see where they are on the map in relation to you, but realistically most places shouldn't be more than 20 minutes max away in a taxi with the exception of Pham Van Dong, which I wouldn't bother with as a tourist.

Plenty of options around the Westlake area; Esalen, Indara, Moscow, Nutz and a few others. None should cost you more than 100, 000 VND ($5) at the most in a taxi. If you wanted to try a BBBJ and possible quickie (if you get the right girl) you could head to the Tam Quats in Doc Nu (I'd recommend No. 62 if you do head there (300k total for BBBJ or 600k total if girl will give FS, give money to the girl after the deed is done, she gives 100k to mamasan) , again this shouldn't cost too much to get to in a taxi.

I don't know of anything within walking distance of your hotel.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins; 1340452]It really depends what you want, but your hotel is reasonably centrally located. Don't know anything about the spa at your hotel but would be surprised if there was anything on offer. You can find your hotel on Google Maps by searching for; Movenpick hotel, Hanoi, Vietnam. I'd suggest picking out the spots you like the sound of from previous reports and see where they are on the map in relation to you, but realistically most places shouldn't be more than 20 minutes max away in a taxi with the exception of Pham Van Dong, which I wouldn't bother with as a tourist.

Plenty of options around the Westlake area; Esalen, Indara, Moscow, Nutz and a few others. None should cost you more than 100, 000 VND ($5) at the most in a taxi. If you wanted to try a BBBJ and possible quickie (if you get the right girl) you could head to the Tam Quats in Doc Nu (I'd recommend No. 62 if you do head there (300k total for BBBJ or 600k total if girl will give FS, give money to the girl after the deed is done, she gives 100k to mamasan) , again this shouldn't cost too much to get to in a taxi.

I don't know of anything within walking distance of your hotel.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information. It is most helpful.

Try Hang Chuoi St. Short taxi ride from the hotel about 8 blocks east and 3 blocks south. Number 28 is a blow and go. 400, 000 plus tip of 3-500, 000 depending on how happy you are, and number 53 (roughly) is the Kingston Club for upmarket massage and HJ. Both cost more than other places but are convenient if you are visiting.

[QUOTE=Robert the Brave; 1340236]Staying at Movenpick for 3 nights November 8, 9.10th. Is there anything available at the hotel spa? I suspect not so can you point me in the right direction for action as close as possible to this hotel.

I have RTFF but do not really understand the geography of Hanoi. If I appeara lazy bastard I apologise.[/QUOTE]

Will be in Hanoi early 2013 for a week. Was really looking forward to it into I started reading this thread, Sounds like it is not the best place in Viet.

Any recommendations on Hotel (I am in Hanoi for Business and hoping to enjoy some time with some very nice and cute young ladies).

I have read quite a bit and Dars report of distinction sounds like the place. Is it still active?

I am looking forward to posting details of my trip and appreciate any advice.

[QUOTE=Joffre;1341672]Try Hang Chuoi St. Short taxi ride from the hotel about 8 blocks east and 3 blocks south. Number 28 is a blow and go. 400, 000 plus tip of 3-500, 000 depending on how happy you are, and number 53 (roughly) is the Kingston Club for upmarket massage and HJ. Both cost more than other places but are convenient if you are visiting.[/QUOTE]I was VERY surprised by Kingston. Nice upmarket experience, and pretty gal to assist with sauna, massage, bathing me, jakuzzi, etc. However, when it came time to determine price for HJ, the gal would not go less than 500, 000. Already paying 450, 000 for a VIP 90 minute package, so 500, 000 to do what others do for 100-400, 000 is too much.

I did not budge, and left with no HJ and no tip to her. Very off-putting.

Depends who you get. A good one will tease and flirt, get you really excited, bring you to an explosive HJ, followed by a reading massage with no mention of money. Afterwards you'll gladly give her 500 because she's worth it, and you know you can go back anytime. After a while you exchange numbers and meet on her day off. You can't compare service like that to a tam quat gobble.

Unfortunately my regular isn't at Kingston anymore. We meet for a coffee once in a while with a promise of more to come.

As I always say, we have to recommend girls not only places.

[QUOTE=Explorerman; 1344368]I was VERY surprised by Kingston. Nice upmarket experience, and pretty gal to assist with sauna, massage, bathing me, jakuzzi, etc. However, when it came time to determine price for HJ, the gal would not go less than 500, 000. Already paying 450, 000 for a VIP 90 minute package, so 500, 000 to do what others do for 100-400, 000 is too much.

I did not budge, and left with no HJ and no tip to her. Very off-putting.[/QUOTE]

Wish I'd discovered this thread earlier! Now I feel sheepish for letting a motorbike tout take me to a massage place that quite clearly charged me too much. I'll put it down to experience. Just a bit confused about tam quats, I've found one but am a bit unsure what service they give. Have a couple more nights in hanoi so wouldn't mind one more fling to make up for it.

Wish I'd discovered this sooner. That way I would feel so stupid for letting a motorbike tout take me to a massage place where all I got was a BBBJ and a crap massage! Learning experience I suppose. I've got 2 more nights in hanoi and want to make the most of it. I've seen a few threads regarding the tam quat houses but am a bit confused. I've found one near my hotel and would like to give it a try, but what exactly do they offer?

Any input would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=LibertyGt; 1346493]I've seen a few threads regarding the tam quat houses but am a bit confused. I've found one near my hotel and would like to give it a try, but what exactly do they offer?

Any input would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Tam Quats generally offer BBBJ / HJ the ratio of which will depend solely on the girl you get. Some places the girls may offer FS, but are generally not allowed so it will be a quiet affair and no guarantees. Generally the price for BBBJ should be around 300k vnd, that's 100k vnd to the house and 200k vnd to the girl. FS will set you back around 600k vnd.

Quality of girls and service vary wildly from place to place and girl to girl. By all means give the place near you a go, don't worry about the language issues, they will get straight down to business. If you don't have any luck there, head to my favourite on Doc Nu, and try to get the girl with the big melons. She's a lot of fun, has truly stunning tits and will do FS usually.

If you're after a bit more than a BJ and don't mind splashing out, then I'd recommend my regular girl for dinner followed by truly awesome sex back at your hotel. She's not cheap but will give you the fuck of your life, repeatedly! Just PM me or head to the personals section on Craigslist Vietnam and do a search for "juicy girl".

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins; 1346757]Tam Quats generally offer BBBJ / HJ the ratio of which will depend solely on the girl you get. Some places the girls may offer FS, but are generally not allowed so it will be a quiet affair and no guarantees. Generally the price for BBBJ should be around 300k vnd, that's 100k vnd to the house and 200k vnd to the girl. FS will set you back around 600k vnd.

Quality of girls and service vary wildly from place to place and girl to girl. By all means give the place near you a go, don't worry about the language issues, they will get straight down to business. If you don't have any luck there, head to my favourite on Doc Nu, and try to get the girl with the big melons. She's a lot of fun, has truly stunning tits and will do FS usually.

If you're after a bit more than a BJ and don't mind splashing out, then I'd recommend my regular girl for dinner followed by truly awesome sex back at your hotel. She's not cheap but will give you the fuck of your life, repeatedly! Just PM me or head to the personals section on Craigslist Vietnam and do a search for "juicy girl".[/QUOTE]Thanks Richard. Unfortunately this is my last night and I'm travelling with a mate so your girl may not work out. I'm hoping its the same tam quat every ones talking about! There were no girls sitting outside but did have a sign saying tam quat 80, 000vnd. Do you know of any in the old quarter as that's where I am at the moment, or near the daewoo hotel in ba dinh district?

Well I tried that tam quat near me and its fair dinkum legit. Not even a tackle tickle! It's near the danly hotel opposite a taxi depot. The massage was good and the girl was quite cute but alas that's all it was. Have tried many massages and spas this fortnight and got bugger all. The 2 times I did get lucky was at a hotel and from a bike tout. Both overpriced from the reports I've read. Oh well live and learn.

There's always next time.

Hi brothers, living in Hanoi I post sometimes ads in the Newhanoian to find nsa girlfriends (mostly I then meet the old and ugly leftovers) this time I got a message from a girl that could be interesting for our community, maybe one of you would like to give it a try, as I am not realy in need of paydating :

Mshaihang I provide some nice sex service with reasonable price 50 USD hour/[blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]m Or[blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]

And as I work for intelligence I found her flickr account : flickr. Com / photos / mshaihang

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Does anybody have some experience with ALAUXANH lately, it should be a perfect option for guys living in Hanoi / Vietnam and speaking vietnamese or having a local translater.

How can I pay the fee to become gold member?

[QUOTE=PedroEuropa; 1347930]Does anybody have some experience with ALAUXANH lately, it should be a perfect option for guys living in Hanoi / Vietnam and speaking vietnamese or having a local translater.

How can I pay the fee to become gold member?[/QUOTE]Looking at their website using Google Translate, seems like you will need to have a Vietcombank or Dong A bank account in order to transfer the fee to them by internet banking.

I was in Doc Ngu the other day, and bumped into Mai who works at number 26 (and the place next door down an alley). She looked a bit bored and eager for business, and told me "you please tell your friend come here, I like man with beard". I don't know if she meant a particular man who she thinks is a friend of mine. If so, then if you are reading this man with beard, then she's waiting for you. Or maybe she meant she likes beards in general. So, chaps, bearded or not, a nice pair of milky soft thighs are waiting for your stubble. She's a little older than than your average, but she's nice, speaks English, and will try to please you. I think she also enjoys herself too.

And also at number 26 there's one called Luyen who has just had a baby, so if you like those very full post partum breasts then now is the time to take her behind the curtain for a fondle.

I stayed at the Sheraton Hanoi for a few nights a couple of weeks back. I only got to Nuts once, and it was Monday I think. Music was loud and bar was fairly empty, but there were a few decent girls in there. Pizza was good too!

I had a drink with one that spoke half decent English, and told her I was staying at the Sheraton. She said she could come to my room. But from what I understand from elsewhere on the site that seems unlikely unless something has changed.

I might be back there in a couple of weeks again and will try and confirm the situation. I know its a legal thing in Vietnam, like in China, and previously I have had Viet girls I have met in KL or Singapore meet me in nice hotels in Hanoi, but had them arrive in the afternoon or earlier evening. Most of the Viet girls you meet in bars in SE Asia seem to live in Hanoi, so just get the local and Viet. Number if you want to see them again when they are at home.

John

[QUOTE=Joffre; 1344827]Depends who you get. A good one will tease and flirt, get you really excited, bring you to an explosive HJ, followed by a reading massage with no mention of money. Afterwards you'll gladly give her 500 because she's worth it, and you know you can go back anytime. After a while you exchange numbers and meet on her day off. You can't compare service like that to a tam quat gobble.

Unfortunately my regular isn't at Kingston anymore. We meet for a coffee once in a while with a promise of more to come.

As I always say, we have to recommend girls not only places.[/QUOTE]Very true. I've been to most of the massage places in town, and these girls are really hard to find. Out of hundreds of girls I was able to find 2 gems who I went to regularly and eventually met up. The sex was good and the best part was they never asked for any money, both of them just really wanted the sex.

The interesting part is that they both wanted me to fuck them raw. I had to insist on using a condom. It seems like in Hanoi the ladies either don't like the rubber, or they just want to get pregnant.

The moral of the story is that yes, it's possible to have free sex in Hanoi, but unless you get lucky, you have to put in a lot of time, effort and (ironically) money into the search so it only works if you live here. If you're a visitor then tough luck since most Hanoian women will not be interested in sex with someone they've only met once or twice.

[QUOTE=JohnAppleseed; 1351893]Very true. I've been to most of the massage places in town, and these girls are really hard to find. Out of hundreds of girls I was able to find 2 gems who I went to regularly and eventually met up. The sex was good and the best part was they never asked for any money, both of them just really wanted the sex.

The interesting part is that they both wanted me to fuck them raw. I had to insist on using a condom. It seems like in Hanoi the ladies either don't like the rubber, or they just want to get pregnant.

The moral of the story is that yes, it's possible to have free sex in Hanoi, but unless you get lucky, you have to put in a lot of time, effort and (ironically) money into the search so it only works if you live here. If you're a visitor then tough luck since most Hanoian women will not be interested in sex with someone they've only met once or twice.[/QUOTE]Hi John, I am in Hotel Fortuna and will be here for another 2 days. Please suggest me some good resources or information, so that I get young gal to hangout with. I wasn't able to find anything online otherthan this forum. I am here from last one week, tried approaching some taxi drivers but not sure about them as they were quoting some 65$. And am really not sure about it.

Please help

[QUOTE=JonDebb; 1352943]Hi John, I am in Hotel Fortuna and will be here for another 2 days. Please suggest me some good resources or information, so that I get young gal to hangout with. I wasn't able to find anything online otherthan this forum. I am here from last one week, tried approaching some taxi drivers but not sure about them as they were quoting some 65$. And am really not sure about it.

Please help[/QUOTE]If you only have 2 days then your best bet is to go to the Boss KTV at the basement of Fortuna Hotel and get a girl there for ST. It's expensive but it's guaranteed and foolproof. Otherwise you can try the VIP massage in Oasis Hotel directly across the street where you might find a girl who's willing to meet you after work if you are lucky or generous enough.

Hi guys,

I have been doing some mongering in Hanoi lately.

Fortuna and Hanoi Hotel seem expensive with 150$ LT and 100$ ST. If you add additional costs for hotel overnight (ofcourse if you do not have a room at these hotels) , then it ends up being close to 200$ LT which is huge. They don't budge on the costs, did not agree for 100$ LT.

Any information where I can find 100$ LT with nice collection of girls to choose from.

Nutz was an option but it really sucks, the girls there are really old and mostly those who wander outside on their bikes. You can get these girls at less than 50$ LT in some other area. It is just the location premium they are charging. Also, Nutz is closed down until New Year's.

What about the other small bars around the city? Any bars which are not inside some big hotel like Fortuna, but you can easily finds girl for LT there. And it would be better if it is structured as in you have a collection to choose from.

[QUOTE=Sydney316; 1357138]Hi guys,

I have been doing some mongering in Hanoi lately.[/QUOTE]Well I think the abject silence should probably answer the question for you. Unfortunately Hanoi simply doesn't have the set-ups that they have in HCMC. I've never tried Fortuna myself, but your experiences sound in line with what everyone else reports. And as far as I know, Fortuna is the only place in Hanoi that has a proper system set up. Nutz is the only other bar known of in Hanoi where a large number of working girls can be found and are tolerated.

Your prices too are pretty much on the mark. Fortuna and Nutz have their location premiums, but that said, it will be difficult to find decent girls with a basic command of English that will go for less. There are areas to head in the city where you can get ST for as little as 500k VND, but not everyone is satisfied with the quality of the girl they will get for that price or the conditions they will be in while doing the deed.

I have a contact for a girl that fluent in English and she wouldn't go for much less than 3M ST and 4M LT and then you have to provide the location yourself.

To be honest Hanoi is a sellers market when looking for quality and you either have to stick that or lower your standards.

A lot also depends on whether you are a visitor or expat, how easily you can get around (ie do you have a motorbike) , and whether or not you have your own place to host.

There is also the suggestion that some people here have of taking the time to cultivate a relationship with a girl via something like The New Hanoian website. But that will take time and cost money and probably would total up more than you are spending at somewhere like Fortuna, with no guarantees at the end of it. Personally this has never been a route I have considered; I prefer to keep it all on a strictly business level to remove the complications of relationships that will inevitably ensue.

Like I say, you are not going to find what you are looking for here in Hanoi. All I can suggest is read back through the forum and see if any of the experiences of mine or others piques your interest and give them a go or ask for more info.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins;1357714]Well I think the abject silence should probably answer the question for you. Unfortunately Hanoi simply doesn't have the set-ups that they have in HCMC. I've never tried Fortuna myself, but your experiences sound in line with what everyone else reports. And as far as I know, Fortuna is the only place in Hanoi that has a proper system set up. Nutz is the only other bar known of in Hanoi where a large number of working girls can be found and are tolerated.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply Richard. I have been following this forum since few weeks.

One thing I would like to add is, that I never saw Hanoi Hotel being named that much here. I think it is much better option than Nutz. Also, it is quite better than Fortuna in the aspect that you just go, talk to mamasan, pick up a girl for the night. Fortuna, the last time I went, insisted that I drink there and spend some money before taking the girl out. Also, I believe they have started a policy of 'smart casuals' as I saw a guy denied entry because of improper dress code. That sucks.

On the massage parlor front, I think most of the reviews here have been spot on. On the premium side, there is Oasis II, Moscow, Kingston etc. I think Oasis II is the best option, while Moscow is really a hit and miss option, depending on the girl. If you get the wrong one, it is 1 million down the drain.

Also, as you mentioned, lot of places to get cheap sex. One of them is an alley in Duong Hong Ha, where lot of girls on motorbike will become ready for around 500k VND and will even provide you their own hotel room. But again, the standard is pretty bad, and the experience too, as these girls are not much cooperative.

Have been for like 3 weeks here in Hanoi, and now I am looking for some new options. I heard there are some bars where you can get real sexy girls for 100 USD LT easily. Something like that will be good. Would like to hear some new names from the members here, as I have been to most of the places named here.

Also, does anyone know the LT prices at Daewoo Hotel nightclub?

[QUOTE=Johnsue; 1350590]I stayed at the Sheraton Hanoi for a few nights a couple of weeks back. I only got to Nuts once, and it was Monday I think. Music was loud and bar was fairly empty, but there were a few decent girls in there. Pizza was good too!

I had a drink with one that spoke half decent English, and told her I was staying at the Sheraton. She said she could come to my room. But from what I understand from elsewhere on the site that seems unlikely unless something has changed.

I might be back there in a couple of weeks again and will try and confirm the situation. I know its a legal thing in Vietnam, like in China, and previously I have had Viet girls I have met in KL or Singapore meet me in nice hotels in Hanoi, but had them arrive in the afternoon or earlier evening. Most of the Viet girls you meet in bars in SE Asia seem to live in Hanoi, so just get the local and Viet. Number if you want to see them again when they are at home.

John[/QUOTE]I was back in the Sheraton Hanoi a couple of weeks back. Unfortunately NUTS had closed for renovation, and was supposed to reopen (under a new name I think) in late December. I will report back next time I am there.

John

[QUOTE=Johnsue; 1366982]I was back in the Sheraton Hanoi a couple of weeks back. Unfortunately NUTS had closed for renovation, and was supposed to reopen (under a new name I think) in late December. I will report back next time I am there.

John[/QUOTE]Nutz has opened again as Chime bar. And it is shit. I went there some days ago, and there was no girl there. One was there, but maybe someone brought her from outside or something. But if you want to find some girl, Nutz (Chime) is not an option now.

Only options are Fortuna and Hanoi Hotel.

[QUOTE=Sydney316; 1367239]Nutz has opened again as Chime bar. And it is shit. I went there some days ago, and there was no girl there. One was there, but maybe someone brought her from outside or something. But if you want to find some girl, Nutz (Chime) is not an option now.

Only options are Fortuna and Hanoi Hotel.[/QUOTE]Is this the Shearton Hanoi Hotel at 11 Xuan Dieu Road?

[QUOTE=Timewaster;1368354]Is this the Shearton Hanoi Hotel at 11 Xuan Dieu Road?[/QUOTE]Yes the same one.

I encounted mshaihang online today. She offered $100/2 hours. After some chats, I doubt her services because she's so cash-oriented and is maybe a potential starfish.

As PedroEuropa's intelligence work, I found her Facebook and Youtube, LOL.

She said she's clean-shaven. My favorite. But, I'm still in doubt if a Viet girl dares to shave her pussy.

[QUOTE=PedroEuropa; 1347429]Hi brothers, living in Hanoi I post sometimes ads in the Newhanoian to find nsa girlfriends (mostly I then meet the old and ugly leftovers) this time I got a message from a girl that could be interesting for our community, maybe one of you would like to give it a try, as I am not realy in need of paydating :

Mshaihang I provide some nice sex service with reasonable price 50 USD hour/

And as I work for intelligence I found her flickr account : flickr. Com / photos / mshaihang[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Male; 1371596]I encounted mshaihang online today. She offered $100/2 hours. After some chats, I doubt her services because she's so cash-oriented and is maybe a potential starfish.

As PedroEuropa's intelligence work, I found her Facebook and Youtube, LOL.

She said she's clean-shaven. My favorite. But, I'm still in doubt if a Viet girl dares to shave her pussy.[/QUOTE]I'd like to chat with her to see what services she offers. Can you give me her username on TNH? Thanks.

[QUOTE=JohnAppleseed;1371690]I'd like to chat with her to see what services she offers. Can you give me her username on TNH? Thanks.[/QUOTE]You go to tnhvietnam site and search user mshaihang. Email her and go on.

[QUOTE=Mr Male;1373184]You go to tnhvietnam site and search user mshaihang. Email her and go on.[/QUOTE]Been messaging back and forward with this girl. Not sure if I should indulge, anybody tried? Seems like a genuine office girl out for some extra cash for that I-phone, kinda like that type.

[QUOTE=Swallwell;1373722]Been messaging back and forward with this girl. Not sure if I should indulge, anybody tried? Seems like a genuine office girl out for some extra cash for that I-phone, kinda like that type.[/QUOTE]Hi Swallwell,

I digged this thread (page 4) and found answer for you from Destinla:

TNH : When I first arrived, I ve put an ad in the personals section, did get a few responses and one from pimps named Otto and Angela, offering some girls as escort for 800. 000 3 hours (companion only) the rest up to the girl. And also from a girl names Ella? She fucked me for $50. 00 not worth it. Starfish!

Ella is mshaihang on TNH. Thank you for your test job, Destinla.

[QUOTE=Mr Male; 1373938]Hi Swallwell,

I digged this thread (page 4) and found answer for you from Destinla:

TNH : When I first arrived, I ve put an ad in the personals section, did get a few responses and one from pimps named Otto and Angela, offering some girls as escort for 800. 000 3 hours (companion only) the rest up to the girl. And also from a girl names Ella? She fucked me for $50. 00 not worth it. Starfish!

Ella is mshaihang on TNH. Thank you for your test job, Destinla.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up mr male, saved me time and money. Was leaning that way anyway, seems very picky that girl.

I have to say that out of the 6 or 7 Vietnamese women I've fucked, just about all of them have been starfishes. Some of them were P4P and others were freebies. I think younger and less-experienced Vietnamese women tend to be more sexually closed-up. I've heard that mature Viet women are less inhibited but I've never tried them.

[QUOTE=Mr Male; 1373938]Hi Swallwell,

I digged this thread (page 4) and found answer for you from Destinla:

TNH : When I first arrived, I ve put an ad in the personals section, did get a few responses and one from pimps named Otto and Angela, offering some girls as escort for 800. 000 3 hours (companion only) the rest up to the girl. And also from a girl names Ella? She fucked me for $50. 00 not worth it. Starfish!

Ella is mshaihang on TNH. Thank you for your test job, Destinla.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnAppleseed;1374502]I have to say that out of the 6 or 7 Vietnamese women I've fucked, just about all of them have been starfishes. Some of them were P4P and others were freebies. I think younger and less-experienced Vietnamese women tend to be more sexually closed-up. I've heard that mature Viet women are less inhibited but I've never tried them.[/QUOTE]I disagree I ahve been here over 4 yrs and on average get 5-8 freebies each year all the girls in the 20-30 range and very few were starfish, yhe ones who end up being starfish are p4p and even they tend to be a minority.

[QUOTE=JohnAppleseed;1374502]I have to say that out of the 6 or 7 Vietnamese women I've fucked, just about all of them have been starfishes. Some of them were P4P and others were freebies. I think younger and less-experienced Vietnamese women tend to be more sexually closed-up. I've heard that mature Viet women are less inhibited but I've never tried them.[/QUOTE]As far as starfishing goes it all comes down to experince doesn't it? Not done much P4P but my worst starfish was Italian. In freebies you're more likely to get a starfish who is younger as she's done the deed less, be she Vietnamese, Western or wherever else. As far as Viet's go only ever had free here and I've only had good lays so far. My worst here was a Korean.

I am looking at going to Vietnam Ho Chi Minh City in Late March 2013 and I am looking for hotels that are girl friendly and close to nightlife.

I also read on some other post the Au Lac Hotel is girl friendly but I have found 2 hotel with the same name Au Lac Hotel and the Au Lac Saigon Hotel they are near District 1, do you know of this hotel or can you give me so info on where to stay (Hotel and place) and where to go.

Thank you for your help

[QUOTE=SteveHanoi;1328733]Iam in hanoi. I prefer a beer session.[/QUOTE]Hi bro, nice to meet you, pm me your contact number, we can meet up this weekend.

A little plug for a place I've not seen mentioned here. The mens spa on Kim Ma, down a ngo opposite Ngo 58 (see google). It's clean enough, and service is good. I wish I could take the receptionist up stairs too! For 250 for 1 hr. 400-500 to the girl, you get a nice massage with HJ. Some girls will let you go places with your fingers, others won't. Try #3 (nice big rack) and #1. Some might also ask for your number for take out. If you pay top dollar for 2 hrs the girls wear a top that leaves nothing to the imagination and no barrier for wandering hands. Enjoy.

Hello All. Had a nice distraction on Monday evening. Walked out the entrance of the Hilton, headed left at around 9:30 PM. Lots of girls (and pimps) on bikes cruising. When they weren't greeting you from the bike they'd run across the street and grab your arm. One pulled up with a cute little spinner who spoke reasonable English. She was looking for $50. 00. I countered with $30. 00 and it was off to the races. We walked to a nearby mini-hotel (she covered the room fee). Girl was good, not great. But charming and fun to talk to. I think I enjoyed the walk with her more than the actual session.

We went to about five different no-tel's who all turned us away at the door. Apparently, it's not legal for a foreigner to rent a room in one of these places. For a Viet. No problem. So we visited about six places until we found one, tucked back into some very risky looking back-streets.

The room offered a clean towel, and sheets. And (amazingly) hot water in the shower. We cleaned up. She soaped me down. Everything was covered. Which was fine with me. I told her I was from New York. And she went on about all the places she had traveled to and worked. She recounted multiple tours to Singapore where she'd go to Ipanema. The Beach Club in Malaysia; as I said. The conversation on the walk to the no-tell was more interesting than the session. I wouldn't mind giving her $100. 00 and just asking her to recount her travels. She seemed to have some great stories.

What was really remarkable about this evening was the confirmation of an old adage I heard a long time ago about girls. That it's not the sex you usually remember, it's something special or unique about the girl. A sound they would make, or a personality quirk. Some of the more interesting girls I have been with haven't always been the most entertaining in the sack.

SA

[QUOTE=FrankieT035; 1375588]I am looking at going to Vietnam Ho Chi Minh City in Late March 2013 and I am looking for hotels that are girl friendly and close to nightlife.

I also read on some other post the Au Lac Hotel is girl friendly but I have found 2 hotel with the same name Au Lac Hotel and the Au Lac Saigon Hotel they are near District 1, do you know of this hotel or can you give me so info on where to stay (Hotel and place) and where to go.

Thank you for your help[/QUOTE]I stayed at the one that is NOT downtown and it is GF. Also try Hoang Vinh 29 Ba Huyen Thanh Quanh D3, around the corner from Saigon Star, but tell the staff she is your girlfriend.

Good luck.

I've checked out a few of the Tam Quats on Nguyen Hoan Ton recently. The road that runs along the back side of Ciputra as mentioned by a few others in this thread. Experience is pretty much as reported. 150K VND for BBBJ / HJ. Nothing special about the girls or service but I guess it's pretty good value for getting your rocks off. I don't have a particular favourite so just take a look and see what piques your interest. During the daytime you just have to bite the bullet and head into the place of your choice. In the evenings you see girls hanging around outside some of the places calling you in.

[QUOTE=JohnAppleseed;1374502]I have to say that out of the 6 or 7 Vietnamese women I've fucked, just about all of them have been starfishes. Some of them were P4P and others were freebies. I think younger and less-experienced Vietnamese women tend to be more sexually closed-up. I've heard that mature Viet women are less inhibited but I've never tried them.[/QUOTE]It's been a year since I've been to Hanoi, but there is one woman I met toward the end of my trip who all but offered a date. We were in the French Quarter in the silk vendor area when I walked into a Hmong store. The owner of the store was a 9+ MILF who I chatted up for no less than an hour. She's done some traveling and we compared notes on a few places before the conversation got friendlier. I had only a few hours before the grueling drive back to the airport or I would have wined and dined her right out of her pants. God the woman was beautiful. Look for the Hmong shop near the silk street and you're in for a treat. Prior to this, I picked up some sinus meds at a pharmacy just a few blocks from our hotel and got a phone number before leaving. Had a very nice time with a 20y / o with a perfect little frame. God I'm Jones'in to get back to VN. Oh and had plenty of top notch pussy at Fortuna's basement bar.

Hi guys,

long time no update?

It would be good if the elites like Darker Knight or Richard Dawkins post some update or tips.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins;1379091]I've checked out a few of the Tam Quats on Nguyen Hoan Ton recently. The road that runs along the back side of Ciputra as mentioned by a few others in this thread. Experience is pretty much as reported. 150K VND for BBBJ / HJ. Nothing special about the girls or service but I guess it's pretty good value for getting your rocks off. I don't have a particular favourite so just take a look and see what piques your interest. During the daytime you just have to bite the bullet and head into the place of your choice. In the evenings you see girls hanging around outside some of the places calling you in.[/QUOTE]There are certainly lots of places on that street. As Road says, it's a quick rocks off experience, but you can sometimes make a connection with one, so it's a proper encounter. I think it's more likely if you go for an older one, maybe one who isn't there all the time. Then exchange mobile numbers and use google translate to fix up a hotel meeting by text. Then you really start to have a good time. By the way, a poster called HanoiSex claims to have had a very interesting time on this street. He met an alluring tranny in one tam quat, and he got rimmed in a store cupboard by the checkout girl at the minimart! But is he a fantasist?

Wondering if any of you mongers living here would like to meet up for a drink and maybe do some exploring?

I'm intrigued by this place:

[I]Local KTV at Nguyen Van Cu. These are right across the Chuong Duong bridge over the Red River. Lots of them but best to veture with locals. It can get pretty wild here with the girls dancing naked and almost an orgy there. Take them to an adjacent motel if you want for about 300k-500k ST. Total expense about 800k per person for a group of 5. With the right company, these can turn out to be some of the best times you've had in Hanoi. [/I]

What's a KTV?

I've tried to find several of the places listed in the reports, with not much luck.

It's a pain not having a car, since a lot of the places mentioned are far apart from each other.

200 Yen Phu does not exist as far as I can tell. I walked that block twice, once during the day and once at night, and didn't find anything remotely resembling it.

I took a stroll past 28 Hang Chuoi St. (down the block from Kingston) , and was surprised when she quoted me USD$30 or 600, 000 dong. That's much more than what a previous report mentioned. Plus tips, I'm sure. For a 5 in the looks department, and not terribly nice ambiance from what I could tell. I know negotiating is the name of the game, but she didn't seem interested in bargaining.

In hindsight, I should have gone to Kingston then. But I still wanted to explore more.

There is a place between the two, on the perpendicular street. I didn't inquire within, but it would be worth checking out. You can see it just 20m down the street that comes off Hang Chuoi if you're walking between the two.

What's the deal with these huge club-looking karaoke places that look suspiciously like they could be strip clubs? Or is it my dirty mind playing tricks on me. I've passed a few of them, with lovely friendly girls standing outside, and just wondered. What really goes on in there?

I've tried a few massage places around the Old Quarter. They all turned out to be straight (real) massage, no hanky-panky. Guess I didn't know what I was really looking for, with the pink light etc. But the upside is that I've gotten some nice massages!

I guess I'll try Oasis 2, since it's a sure-fire and is walkable from the Old Quarter.

I only happen to know where it is since I passed it while walking Bach Dang, from the bridge south. Previous reports had mentioned that there was a lot of Tam Quats on this road, but I didn't see zilch. Nor moto girls, nor street walkers. This was at about 10pm on a Tuesday.

It would be super helpful if fellow mongers could post real addresses, with actual street names, instead of just assuming we all know where such and such place is. I mean, I'm just sayin'. Saves hours of internet research for your fellow brothers!

OK, let me know if any of you locals would be up for a drink tonight or tomorrow. I'm only here until Saturday.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Floyd Dylan; 1392399]Wondering if any of you mongers living here would like to meet up for a drink and maybe do some exploring?

I'm intrigued by this place:

[I]Local KTV at Nguyen Van Cu. These are right across the Chuong Duong bridge over the Red River. Lots of them but best to veture with locals. It can get pretty wild here with the girls dancing naked and almost an orgy there. Take them to an adjacent motel if you want for about 300k-500k ST. Total expense about 800k per person for a group of 5. With the right company, these can turn out to be some of the best times you've had in Hanoi. [/I]

What's a KTV?

What's the deal with these huge club-looking karaoke places that look suspiciously like they could be strip clubs? Or is it my dirty mind playing tricks on me. I've passed a few of them, with lovely friendly girls standing outside, and just wondered. What really goes on in there?[/QUOTE]KTV is the huge karaoke places. The company driver confirms that some wild times are to be had in there but also confirms that a foreigner must be with locals.

[QUOTE=Sydney316; 1392144]Hi guys,

Long time no update?

It would be good if the elites like Darker Knight or Richard Dawkins post some update or tips.[/QUOTE]Still lots of wet, willing pussy out there and more blowjob shops than you could get through hitting one a day for an entire year. If you go past somewhere that says Tam Quat anywhere on it's signage, head in and ask for "massage" and how much. I guarantee 99 time out of 100 you're going to leave a few ounces lighter for less than the cost of a Starbucks and pack of smokes from wherever you hail from.

[QUOTE=Floyd Dylan; 1392399]It would be super helpful if fellow mongers could post real addresses, with actual street names, instead of just assuming we all know where such and such place is. I mean, I'm just sayin'. Saves hours of internet research for your fellow brothers!

OK, let me know if any of you locals would be up for a drink tonight or tomorrow. I'm only here until Saturday.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Hi,

To answer your queries :

- Karaokes are a waste of time, don't go there alone. If you have some local friends, you can ask them to take you to one, maybe then you will have good time.

- 28 Hang Chuoi is actually pretty good. The real price is 200k VND outside + 200k VND (tip to girl). They will name 30USD if they think it's your first time. Just go and give 200k and act like it ain't your first time. If they don't budge, try to leave. They will surely stop you. The good thing about this place is it is less hassles and the girl is a bit more cooperative than other places.

- Other massage places are 62 doc ngu. 26 doc ngu, and some places Darker Knight have mentioned are pretty good.

- JUst do a search of these places on this thread. Moscow, Oasis, etc. I don't remember exact addresses, so you might search and get. They are real.

- As for full service, Hanoi Hotel, Fortuna Hotel are the expensive places with 100 or 150 USD price, whereas To Ngoc Van and Duong Hong Ha are the cheap places (around 500k one shot)

Cheers

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins;1340452]Plenty of options around the Westlake area; Esalen, Indara, Moscow, Nutz and a few others.[/QUOTE]Staying at the Intercon and these are all pretty nearby. Is the area safe to walk around alone at night?

[QUOTE=Pita123;1392520]Staying at the Intercon and these are all pretty nearby. Is the area safe to walk around alone at night?[/QUOTE]Yes, perfectly safe to walk around although common sense still needs to apply.

Anyone want to have tea time tomorrow? Pm me your contact number.

To add a bit more detail about what happens in KTV. (Karaoke Television Television)

These places are vary varied but normally they are on a series of floors and have a number of different rooms of varying sizes. Each room has sofas and 1 TV set (or more depending on the room). There is a big book of songs and you choose the songs and sing to your hearts content. You choose music and order beer or food and it comes through and you sing. You can go to these places with your parents or wife and friend no problem and they will have no idea what is going on in the other rooms.

In each of these places is normally a load of hot (or not) chicks. If you come in with a load of expats or a load of western girls you will go into the room no problem and never see the girls. If you go into them with a group of locals they will speak to the papasan or mamasan and you'll get a line up of girls come into your room for you to choose. You all choose one girl to sit with you and the rest leave. Generally speaking again more variety comes in here. Some places will be like a roman orgy (naked chicks pouring beer all over each and guys getting sucked off in the room) others the girls will chat to you, hold you hand and pour you beer, sing for you but not a lot else. There is real variety which is why being with locals helps as they can select a place that they know will be in line with what the group wants.

Paying is per hour for the room (bigger rooms cost more) , whatever you order and then a tip for the girls. Bills can be extremely difficult to understand and I've heard of groups of expats who have managed to get girls in the room get his with monster bills. Don't let the girls order food as a rule.

Tips is a difficult area and again I'm always guided by locals. I imagine if just expats they try to hit you up for millions. For an hour with hugging and tit feel, some stroking of cock through jeans the locals I'm with give 200. For a couple of hours, sucking tits, maybe slipping a digit in, full on kissing action it is more like 500+. Pretty much all the girls are up for take-out later and cost depends massively on the chick.

(So if you are kind of person who wants the most action in the littlest time for the least price (B&G) then this is not for you.

These places are much more fun with locals as they can translate and get games going and in my experience Viets know how to party in KTV's way more than expats.

For a clearer vision go on one of the many famous porn aggregates e. G XXNX and put KTV in the search bar. You'll see some examples from Korea.

It's been a long time since I wrote in that forum even through I live and monger in Ha Noi.

Since it's been such a long time, I am going to update some places that I've been in Hanoi.

They have some Tam Quat in Bach Dang or Nguyen Khoai street (Am not sure exactly what street between those two). I went to one of them and I found that 28 years who was fantastic! After service for the first time in that Tam Quat, I called her back the next day and we went to a Hotel together to have one of the best sex I got in my entire life! After that, We got so many aewsome nights together without having me to pay her and she Knew that it was purely for fun! I miss the sex with her!

I went also to some nha nghi Tam quat on my way to Hai Duong. This road to Hai Duong has many Massage places and cafe tam quat that You can try if you are bored of Hanoi but you need to have a motobike and willing to ride for at least 40 mins to 1 hour (Do it when you want to go to Hai Phong).

Beside that, I always go to my usual massage place (local one, not a fancy one in a hotel) in Ha Noi. The more often you go to a massage place, you'll be serviced well and have some other things that a Foreigner or vietnamese wouldn't get. It also help if you could speak vietnamese to a intermediate level!

Next time, I will try to monger more in Long bien district and give you some updates!

I have gone to this street for some dirty action a few times and found fast release. Highly recommended if you're into sleazy stuff LOL.

Anyway. The other day I drove by with my motorbike and approached a lady. I asked in my limited VNse for a blowjob. She gestured VND 250. 000 and I was like "Ok." It was around 14:00 in the afternoon.

In I went with my motorbike to this shady apartment door and heard the noises of a local Vietnamese guy porking a lady behind a thin curtain. I walked inside directed by the madam and sat on a filthy looking bed. She asked for the money and I hand it to her. After this, she jumped on the bed and took off her trousers and laid on her back motioning me to climb aboard.

I sat there dumbfounded pointing at my dick and my mouth asking for the promised blowjob. She just stare at me and say in Vietnamese for me to hurry up and do the deed. I make a fuss and she start to look pissed as well.

I lose all my mojo and put on my trousers and she starts screaming at me in Vietnamese. I don't understand a word the ***** is saying but just look at her with amusement. I was kinda ready to part with the VND 250 at this point so I just wanted to stress my disappointment to her. She looked smug and satisfied with the easy money.

Sometimes I do stupid shit like this and probably ruin mongering for other guys. I speak Vietnamese alright for a European and can hold my own in these situations.

Another time I went, I waltzed in with a really cute small countryside type of girl. She was not in a rush and we agreed on VND 150. 0000 for full service. It was awesome I tell you! She giggled and made me feel so nice about all of it. I gave her VND 220. 000 stressing that I really enjoyed her GFE approach. I like to thank girls who go an extra mile but I'm still looking for nice girls like this but they are quite rare in Hanoi for non-native mongers it seems.

I'll share stories later from 2010 to today when I have time. I hope to hear more about places and experiences in Hanoi!

Good luck mongering dudes!

I spotted a blow and' go type of massage (tam quat) place on a road going around a lake called Thanh Cong. The Petro Vietnam HQ tower is near this lake so it's faily easy to find. Search for Thanh Cong on google map and you'll find the street.

Near an entrance to the park there are Internet cafes, small boutiques and cafes. In the middle of all these is a shady looking entrance to a blow and' go place. In evening times you can spot it particularly easy due to the red light hue.

Anyhow. I often see these fat VNse women sitting on a couch inside. I gathered courage and waltzed in thinking I'm going to be one of the first foreigners to go here.

In I went and was greeted lazily by two sleepy VNse middle-aged women sitting cozily under an electric blanket. They just pointed to a entrance behind them absently. I walked in and saw these 5 massage tables and 3 girls fully clothed taking their afternoon naps there. Upon entering I was faced by a 30 something Vietnamese lady (5 body. 7 face). I motion her to come to a massage table with me and in I went.

It was really cold inside the place and the lady was wearing really thick layer of clothing but kinda thin type of top so you could see her baby belly and saggy tits.

I prop myself on the table and she pulled down my pants without ceremonies. This continued with her wiping my dick with a wet cloth. Then she proceeded to give somewhat mechanical handjob as I engaged in some casual small talk in Vietnamese.

After a minute or so she gobbled up my dick and went through the typical motions. She allowed my hands to wander about her body but I did not feel a particular urge to do so. After shooting my load in her mouth she skipped away to spit it in a sink somewhere. AS I sat there recollecting myself she came back and wiped my dick clean again.

I smiled, she smiled. And I gave her 250. 000 and I just walked out.

It was faily clinical in a way but I kinda like dirty places like this. I don't think I was the first foreigner there but nobody spoke a word of English.

I'm always looking for a place where I'm greeted by anxious women looking forward to gobble on my dick but maybe Hanoi does not have that customer service level.

I know 20-30 places like this and I can write more about them but I think most localized mongers are somewhat familiar with these places. Good for instant release but I'm fairly young guy so I have not "picked up" a GF for later meetings in places like this.

My feeling in Hanoi is that these places are best because massage places I have had so many disappointments. I just like to go to go straight to business like this. .

Send me PM or comment if you guys are interested to know about these places more? There are tons.

I was across from the lake starting the walk back to my hotel when a guy parked on a motorcycle called me over and asked if I wanted massage boom boom. I said hell yeah, how much? He said 800K. I told him fuck that noise jack. I have been in HCMC, Nha Trang, and Da Nang and have not payed anywhere near that. I told him the most I will pay is 400K. He told me to ride with him to the place just 1km away and I could see for myself. I'm game.

So we were riding and riding and I said man I thought you said this place was 1km away. He said no it is 3 km. We finally pull up at a massage place on Chau Long. I go in and ask to see the girls. I'm ushered upstairs. I see 2 girls lying on pallets on the floor in a large room. Past that room are massage rooms. I walk back to look and there is one other girl in a room with a customer (the doors had glass windows). I started fucking with the girl through the window but the guy who works there pulled me away.

One of the girls in the room was tall just like I like. I went back downstairs and started negotiations. The guy opened at 700K. I told him that I haven't paid more than 400K since I have been in Vietnam. He went down to 600K. I told him that I would come back later on and do it for 400K. I headed for the door. He shouted out okay okay 400. Again I told him that I would be back. I had the motorbike guy drop me at my hotel. On the way I asked him if he knew of other places and he said no. When he dropped me off he wanted 100K, but I told him he would have to settle for 40K.

I haven't really seen any variety while I have been here in Vietnam. Every working girl I have seen has been young and thin. Not really my cup of tea. The guys in the Bangkok thread who rave over young, thin women with white skin have been missing their calling. They should have been to this place long long ago.

[QUOTE=Darker Knight; 1314889]Pham Van Dong.

Just north of Hoa Binh Peace park, all the way to Ciputra. This street is the real crazy dirty side to mongering. Whenever you notice girls sitting or hanging outside small houses for no reason, understand that you are the reason. Some offer BJ and some FS. And keeps varying. Girls are usually 4s and less. BJ. 100k, FS. 250-300k. No tips. The last place that I would go to! But that's personal preference. I know guys who actually like this place for the its filthy feel.[/QUOTE]Thanks DK. This was the absolute first place I wanted to go. This is my kind of mongering. But most of the time I monger in places like this I am able to speak the language. I can't even say hello in Vietnamese. And so the story goes:

I left my section of the city in a taxi at 1032pm. I showed the driver the paper where I had written Pham Van Dong, Hoa Binh, Ciputra. I told him that I was going there to find ladies. Well he fucked around and took me to a fancy hotel in the area called Hoa Binh. I told him noooo Park Hoa Binh. He made a U-turn. It was farther down right past the intersection where we turned to go to the hotel. When we were passing through the park I saw chicks on the sidewalk in between trees and carrying on. It appeared they were working but where were the houses? On the other side of the road before the beginning of the park there were a couple of women in front of houses. We continued down the street and right around the UPS building is where the action was. When it appeared we had passed them all I told him to pull over and let me out. The time was 1110 and the fare was 144K.

I walked back toward the action and when I arrived the girls were all over me, verbally telling me "boom boom" while at the same time using the elementary school sign language way of inserting the index finger of one hand into a circle made by the index finger and thumb of the other hand. They were also trying to pull me by the arm into their respective houses. There were some good prospects but for some reason my mind was on going back to the park to see what the deal was with the chicks between the trees. So I continued on the journey. Then I got caught behind two slow strolling teenage lovebirds who were walking the same way. When I made it to the trees there were no women at all. I know it wasn't my damn imagination. Maybe the chicks I saw there earlier were just waiting for the bus or something. I walked all that way for nothing.

So I crossed to the other side of the road and continued to the first girls I saw before the beginning of the park. A girl at the first house tried me but I kept walking. Then a girl who was my type at the second house pulled me in by the arm asking boom boom. I was trying to hold out then I said sure how much. She pulled out her own money and showed me 150K. I was trying to tell her that I will pay after but that was not going over well, so I gave her 100K. I was trying to tell her that I would give her the rest after boom boom but she didn't understand. Another lady came and showed me 20K. So I went ahead and forked over another 100K and got 70K change. I know it doesn't add up. The second lady kept all the money and off I went with my girl upstairs to what at first glance appeared to be a crack house.

It was actually clean upstairs though. She ushered me behind a sheet that they had partitioned off into a room and told me to take off my clothes and lie on the pallet. I did not take my clothes off. I kept trying to get her to take hers off for boom boom but she was refusing. I went back downstairs to look for the lady with the money. I could not find her but there was a guy there. He was looking at me like MF you aren't getting shit back. Soon the lady came back and somehow got the point across that what I paid is for BJ. So I went back upstairs with the girl and took my pants down and got on the pallet. She started doing an HJ. I motioned her to use her mouth. She said no. What the fuck.

I got up and pulled my clothes up. I did it slowly so the girl would go downstairs before me. Before going downstairs I went to where they keep their jumbo stash of baby wipes and stuffed them into my jeans. From now on the only dick that's going to get wiped down with these baby wipes is mine! If I'm going to get fucked out of my 130K I'm going to be able to at least say I got a little something for it. It wasn't 130K worth of baby wipes but dammit I felt better. I made a bee line out of there.

Apologies with the delay in thos report as the events took place just before Tet in early Feb. As I had been warned by an experienced member, I was not expecting much action here. As my hotel room was the only option as a venue for any action, I decided to just check out one location. As reported by someone recently, outside the entrance to the Hilton Opera was a location for freelancers. I visited on 2 separate nights. There are 2 entrances and I checked the areas around both to no avail. On the 2nd occasion there were 2 ladies on scooters nearby talking but soon headed off. There was a lane that leads away from one entrance that vehicles must drive down to exit from one of the entrances which had a couple of pool bars but were empty when I passed. I thought I noticed some unusually dressed ladies along the street my hotel was on in the old quarter (Hang Be) but must just have been ladies out due to Tet being so nearby. Also checked out the bars along the street but no sign of any ladies. The hotel (Rising Dragon at no. 55) was an excellent hotel and had arranged to be able to bring back ladies and it was a shame not to have been able to take advantage of that privilege.

DL

Took Monday off work and decided to spend the day investigating some of the previous posts. Drove around Kim Ma area but think I was a little early as the massage place on Giang Vo had no girls loitering inside (when you drive past you can see them all sitting in the front reception, no door only the blue and white string) [from Kim Ma, turn into Giang Van Minh, turn left into Giang Vo and about 150m down on left hand side]. If you keep going there is another huge massage sign on the right, I turned in there but was very expensive VND 700k just to get started.

Then decided to head to Pham Van Dong as never tried, cruised from Cau Giay until just before the bridge towards the airport, saw the entire range of girls sitting just inside the door, had to turn back as its a one way system with a barrier. Found a cute little thing from earlier drive by and drove the bike off the road into the unit, she quickly pulled the steel door behind and locks it and you're off. She was a 6, not a day over 20 with incredible large Dcup tits and a neat trimmed Bush, average Viet height. No english but lots of hugging, giggling and then kit off, she didn't tell so I enquired about price and nearly fell over. The location is a dive just a thin mattress on a pallet, her clothes pushed into a bundle, this is very basic defo for locals. No kissing, condom on (or off if you want) and every which way (no anal) , decided to pull condom off and spray her which was no problem (I did ask first). Total Cost US10.

To be honest the venues are so grimy but on the pos easy to find a girl from safety of your bike, straigth off the road and door shut behind.

In the name of research I went back a few hours later and tried another one which was exactly the same scenario but 2 birds working the shop so the door wasnt shut and I was worried about the bike and my wallet. Girl same but skinnier, don't think you will find a 9 here.

As it was my day off I thought one final treat and headed to the massage on Kim Ma in the evening, come past Ete on Giang van minh, have to turn rt onto Kim ma but turn back into town asap, there is a large massage sign on your right hand side (can't miss it) , you need to turn into a nice quiet and private alley. There are 2 options, I've tried both but prefer the first place as U-turn in as its cheaper. Ask for the VIP room for an hour (200, 000) as its large and they can't see you from the window in the door.

I now have a regular who after the first tme lots of GFE and finished me off with a BJJ and lots of anal play yest. You can finger / play with their tits under the clothes but they wear the shorts, my reg is now grinding her crotch and I wonder what will happen at the next sitting.

Big day out, am very keen to try the 381 Kim Ma but when I went past it looks dead with not even a light on, has anyone tried recently?

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1395740]Thanks . Before going downstairs I went to where they keep their jumbo stash of baby wipes and stuffed them into my jeans. From now on the only dick that's going to get wiped down with these baby wipes is mine! If I'm going to get fucked out of my 130K I'm going to be able to at least say I got a little something for it. It wasn't 130K worth of baby wipes but dammit I felt better. I made a bee line out of there.[/QUOTE]Loved the baby wipes story. Have to ask "How many wipes did you score? You may have made a profit! What did it work out as price per wipe?

(The girls would have been saying glad I didn't get him, look at the the size of that bulge in his jeans, too big, big boy.)

Ideas: sell them on the street, swap them for sex, use them to put over those little windows in the doors, sell them as mouth covers for all those on mototbikes.

Anybody have any other what ideas Mr Enternational can use the baby wipe stash for?

[QUOTE=OverRedRover; 1397067]Then decided to head to Pham Van Dong as never tried, cruised from Cau Giay until just before the bridge towards the airport, saw the entire range of girls sitting just inside the door, had to turn back as its a one way system with a barrier. Found a cute little thing from earlier drive by and drove the bike off the road into the unit, she quickly pulled the steel door behind and locks it and you're off. She was a 6, not a day over 20 with incredible large Dcup tits and a neat trimmed Bush, average Viet height. No english but lots of hugging, giggling and then kit off, she didn't tell so I enquired about price and nearly fell over. The location is a dive just a thin mattress on a pallet, her clothes pushed into a bundle, this is very basic defo for locals. No kissing, condom on (or off if you want) and every which way (no anal) , decided to pull condom off and spray her which was no problem (I did ask first). Total Cost US10.

To be honest the venues are so grimy but on the pos easy to find a girl from safety of your bike, straigth off the road and door shut behind.

In the name of research I went back a few hours later and tried another one which was exactly the same scenario but 2 birds working the shop so the door wasnt shut and I was worried about the bike and my wallet. Girl same but skinnier, don't think you will find a 9 here.

As it was my day off I thought one final treat and headed to the massage on Kim Ma in the evening, come past Ete on Giang van minh, have to turn rt onto Kim ma but turn back into town asap, there is a large massage sign on your right hand side (can't miss it) , you need to turn into a nice quiet and private alley. There are 2 options, I've tried both but prefer the first place as U-turn in as its cheaper. Ask for the VIP room for an hour (200, 000) as its large and they can't see you from the window in the door.

I now have a regular who after the first tme lots of GFE and finished me off with a BJJ and lots of anal play yest. You can finger / play with their tits under the clothes but they wear the shorts, my reg is now grinding her crotch and I wonder what will happen at the next sitting.

Big day out, am very keen to try the 381 Kim Ma but when I went past it looks dead with not even a light on, has anyone tried recently?[/QUOTE]Nice story!

I never have a girl in Pham Van Dong being so agreeable! You are quite lucky!

It's always better if you find a girl who work alone in her small house to have a fuck!

It's been more than a year since I use the brothel in Pham Van Dong.

I will try the massage place in Kim ma! It seems interesting!

BTW, did anyone try the brothel in Nha nghi in giai phong, Hyunh thuc khang, hoan quoc viet?

[QUOTE=Vlad Impaler; 1397646]Loved the baby wipes story. Have to ask "How many wipes did you score? You may have made a profit! What did it work out as price per wipe?

(The girls would have been saying glad I didn't get him, look at the the size of that bulge in his jeans, too big, big boy.)

Ideas: sell them on the street, swap them for sex, use them to put over those little windows in the doors, sell them as mouth covers for all those on mototbikes.

Anybody have any other what ideas Mr Enternational can use the baby wipe stash for?[/QUOTE]Go round all the other massage shops, tam quats and brothels, stealing all their wet wipes until he has cornered the market.

Take a flight and walk up and down the aisle handing them out to confused passengers.

I've never had any luck down Pham Van Dong. Just old hags who want money up front and then lie down on a dirty mattress with their legs parted. But as with everywhere, you can get lucky.

Senior member Joffre suggested: "Take a flight and walk up and down the aisle handing them out to confused passengers."

Hope fully not used ones

Perhaps Senior member Mr Enternational can tell us what he has managed to do with them . Or who?

I was reading the HCMC posts and they regularly mention barber shops, do we have something similar in Hanoi and where? Whats the deal, do you at least get a decent haircut?

Just got back from Thailand and noticed a lot more Indians in the place, up to 6 guys trying to do a deal with the same girl (what girl is going to do a up!) , had arranged for Leah (met her at rocksuper or some name like that) to come round the next day at 11am but got stuck in meetings so had to cancel.

[QUOTE=OverRedRover;1398678]I was reading the HCMC posts and they regularly mention barber shops, do we have something similar in Hanoi and where? Whats the deal, do you at least get a decent haircut? .[/QUOTE]We don't have barbershops in Hanoi, our equivalent is the Tam Quat places you will often see mentioned which are mostly blow and go places. Just read back through the threads for locations and prices.

I went to Dong Anh district in Hanoi (about 17 km from the city centre).

It's a rural district in Hanoi.

Since I was in the district for a wedding, I went to massage parlour and it was cheap and great.

I got a nice 20 year old and she gave me an amazing blow job!

I didn't ask for FS since I wasn't in the mood but I am pretty sure that FS was available in that place!

It's definitely for local!

[QUOTE=Vlad Impaler; 1398655]Senior member Joffre suggested: "Take a flight and walk up and down the aisle handing them out to confused passengers."

Hope fully not used ones

Perhaps Senior member Mr Enternational can tell us what he has managed to do with them. Or who?[/QUOTE]How about setting up a tam quat / barbershop / mp for ladies only? As an alternative to manicure pedicure or shopping, a lady would call into your premises. A 2 room shed with street facing open door. She would see you (and a few more of us) sitting on a broken sofa, and she makes her choice. If you are chosen, you take her to the other room, which has narrow dirty beds divided by curtains. She removes clothes and lies down. You scrub her privates rigorously with wet wipes, tie your hair back and get down at the Y. You can drop your jeans and briefs to let her play with your tackle, which will help her get aroused and finish more quickly. Make fake orgasm noises. As soon as she's finished, run out and spit loudly. Then come back and get to work with more wet wipes. Ask for good tip and say see you again.

You'll probably need a licker license for this sort of business.

Tried this place last week, best BJ ever try, any other shop.

[QUOTE=Hotmail66;1399548]Tried this place last week, best BJ ever try, any other shop.[/QUOTE]Which one bro?

[QUOTE=Sydney316;1400150]Which one bro?[/QUOTE]Sorry forget to put the place, I mean doc ngu, I believe most of bro here already tried, any bro want to have a TT session?

On a usual horny Saturday morning, I decided to pop along to Pham Van Dong since it's been a while since I last went there. I dropped in to number 257 where there was a pretty cute girl manning to doorway. The usual routine, bring in your bike, have the door shut behind you and straight into the back to get down to business. As me and others have reported, if you're heading down the PVD you're going to be roughing it. But for me that is part of the appeal. In the back room, no lighting and just a few blankets and a pillow laid out on the floor. I handed over 300k VND and then got undressed and sat down. She took off her bottoms and then proceeded to put a condom on me and laid back. She wasn't a starfish by any stretch of the imagination, but equally one shouldn't expect the girlfriend experience either. As things got going, she seemed to get more into it and started allowing a bit of light petting which eventually turned into kissing with tongues, as she tightened up and orgasmed. That pretty much sent me over the edge, and after blowing my load, she slipped off the condom, cleaned me up and I was out the door again and on my merry way.

Sunday night, I sampled the other end of the market and met up with my regular friend. She's a million miles removed from the PVD experience and always a lot of fun. She's not your average Vietnamese girl. Short, but not stick thin like a lot of others, but has a great figure non-the-less. Very small perky tits, a pussy to die for and a lovely shapely arse; something sorely missing in most Viet women. She holds down a regular job and just likes to meet guys to earn a little money on the side and get the constant sex that she seems to need to satisfy her.

We went out to a nice restaurant, and she turned up looking drop dead gorgeous in a figure hugging dress as usual, but nothing that would be considered out of place. We spent a couple of hours having a lovely meal and enjoying nice intelligent conversation, thanks to her great English, and a boundary pushing amount of flirting thrown in for good measure. After that we headed back to my place for a bit of action. After lots of kissing, it didn't take long before our clothes were off and we were in the shower together having lots of fun getting each other nice and soapy and clean. Then back to the bed for the marathon to begin.

She has a great pussy and loves to get eaten out. I spent a good 30 minutes dining at the Y before she had a screaming, shaking orgasm which is a sight to be seen. Then it was on with the condom and time to start fucking. It wasn't long before I blew my load and then we lounged around in bed chatting until I was recovered. It wasn't long before she had me hard again and this time she took the lead and rode my cock like she was a cowgirl at the rodeo. She brought herself to orgasm again and it wasn't long before I was emptying my nuts again too.

After a long time catching my breath, she managed to get me up one last time and we had another great round of fucking until I was completely drained and exhausted. A bit disappointing for her as I know she would have happily gone a few more times, she's insatiable and to say she enjoys her work would be an understatement. I'd definitely describe it as the girlfriend experience with her, but perhaps that doesn't quite do her justice as to be honest I've never had a girlfriend who so obsessively loves sex like she does. Perhaps it's more like the porn star experience. She doesn't do anal but then that's never really been my thing anyway.

So that night out cost me several million dong plus dinner, and I come away thinking it was money well spent every time.

So which do I prefer? To be honest I don't have a favourite, they both have their place for me. I love the fact I can spend just a few hundred thousand here to get a girl to spread her legs and let me get my rocks off but equally I don't mind blowing what some would consider big money to have an enjoyable evening with good company and great sex that I know both parties are enjoying.

More than happy to pass along my regular's contact info, but out of respect for her, will only do that privately.

Hi gents!

Is there anybody who know about or can advise tam quat places in My Dinh district? Near by with Keangnam tower?

Thanks!

Hi, all.

I've been RTFF-ing, but haven't found what I'm looking for. I've found a bit, but much of it seems to be a couple of years old.

I'll be in Hanoi in a couple of weeks. Just for a few days. First time in Hanoi, but not in VN. The only downside is that I'll not be alone, so won't be able to run around in the evening. But I may be able to slip away for a bit during the day, for a massage.

So, my question is what may be available during the day, near the Old Quarter? What sort of extras might be expected, and what's the going rate?

Any tips are greatly appreciated!

I have been coming to Hanoi for several years and would usually try to do the massage with extras or pickup at a bar or Japanese KTV. A while back I posted M4W ads on TNH and CL. I received some responses and choose a few to meet. Of the ones I chose to meet all turned out pretty good in one way or another. One has since moved on to marry a foreigner (unfortunately she was the anal loving one) but of the rest one has become my favorite which I would see every day if she were available. One other is a solid choice for nasty fun and the third is an ok back up in case the others are busy. I believe all of these girls / women came from my ad on TNH.

Prior to my arrival on my most recent trip, I responded to some W4M ads on CL. One of those has turned out to be a potential winner. She is a 23 year old college student with a nice if very slightly pudgy body and speaks great english. Her ad is now gone from CL but I would definitely repeat with her.

Hanoi is an odd place. I don't know if I just got lucky or if this new strategy is a winner going forward.

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1405334]I have been coming to Hanoi for several years and would usually try to do the massage with extras or pickup at a bar or Japanese KTV. A while back I posted M4W ads on TNH and CL. I received some responses and choose a few to meet. Of the ones I chose to meet all turned out pretty good in one way or another. One has since moved on to marry a foreigner (unfortunately she was the anal loving one) but of the rest one has become my favorite which I would see every day if she were available. One other is a solid choice for nasty fun and the third is an ok back up in case the others are busy. I believe all of these girls / women came from my ad on TNH.[/QUOTE]Not sure what TNH stands for?

[QUOTE=Fritobugger; 1405334]I have been coming to Hanoi for several years and would usually try to do the massage with extras or pickup at a bar or Japanese KTV. A while back I posted M4W ads on TNH and CL. I received some responses and choose a few to meet. Of the ones I chose to meet all turned out pretty good in one way or another. One has since moved on to marry a foreigner (unfortunately she was the anal loving one) but of the rest one has become my favorite which I would see every day if she were available. One other is a solid choice for nasty fun and the third is an ok back up in case the others are busy. I believe all of these girls / women came from my ad on TNH.

Prior to my arrival on my most recent trip, I responded to some W4M ads on CL. One of those has turned out to be a potential winner. She is a 23 year old college student with a nice if very slightly pudgy body and speaks great english. Her ad is now gone from CL but I would definitely repeat with her.

Hanoi is an odd place. I don't know if I just got lucky or if this new strategy is a winner going forward.[/QUOTE]Hi bro,

What is the full name for CL?

[QUOTE=Jvdairlie;1405436]Not sure what TNH stands for?[/QUOTE]The is The New Hanioan website personals.

[QUOTE=Hotmail66; 1405456]Hi bro,

What is the full name for CL?[/QUOTE]Google is your friend.

Managed to set a new record low on Pham Van Dong on the weekend. I've been hitting up number 257 in the last few weeks, had a couple of different girls there and in general they have been above average in terms of both looks and performance for this street. It's certainly my favourite go-to place at the moment and I think I'll keep hitting it for a while until it either gets boring or the service drops off. The girls there have asked for either 300k vnd or 400k vnd depending on who you get, and as I said, I think the performance certainly merits the price. You'll be doing it in the back room on a few blankets on the floor. Not everybody's cup of tea I'm sure, but to be honest I enjoy the whole sleaze factor.

However this Saturday morning when I went to Pham Van Dong. 257's door was shut, so they must have had a customer already so I headed further along the street until I saw a girl I fancied trying out. Apologies that I didn't get the number but it was lower than 257 probably 20. 30 meters further down the road going with traffic. I caught the girls eye and drove my bike in as per usual. I asked the price and she only wanted 200k vnd. She wasn't the best looking girl in the world, but decent body and fairly young. She was a bottoms off, spread her legs and let you do your business type of girl, and to be honest, instantly forgettable. That said however, that's the cheapest price yet for getting a girl to spread her legs and let you get your rocks off, so I felt it deserved mention.

I think the biggest lesson to take away from this is always ask the price before you take your wallet out. I've made the mistake in the past of getting what I thought was the standard amount out, and the girls will always ask you for 100k vnd more, which tends to be hard to refuse, as you don't know if they are trying to squeeze you for more or if that is there normal rate.

So there you have it. 200k vnd pussy! Got to love this country.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins;1408908]Managed to set a new record low on Pham Van Dong on the weekend. I've been hitting up number 257 in the last few weeks, had a couple of different girls there and in general they have been above average in terms of both looks and performance for this street. It's certainly my favourite go-to place at the moment and I think I'll keep hitting it for a while until it either gets boring or the service drops off. The girls there have asked for either 300k vnd or 400k vnd depending on who you get, and as I said, I think the performance certainly merits the price. You'll be doing it in the back room on a few blankets on the floor. Not everybody's cup of tea I'm sure, but to be honest I enjoy the whole sleaze factor.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review mate. I've hit PVD a few times and also admit that I quite like it. Pricing is as you say with all the doors I have tried. Not sure I have hit 257 yet but will add it to the list.

I am interested in whether anyone has tried any new VIP massage joints lately. I'm a bit of a sucker for them and am interested in some variety!

I will also second comments by others about freebies. I've been doing well in the freebie range this year via TNH. Plenty of great options to be had if you're a gentleman about it.

If you went even lower down the numbers on Pham Van Dong, you might find a place that's only 100, 000 VND, but what would it be like? Maybe no door at all, or maybe the girl just bends over in the doorway and you walk past and slip it to her.

I think somebody posted a story of an ok looking girl doing a HJ and when the customer requested BJ, some old hag came in just to do the deed! Nothing like outsourcing!

For VIP massage, I go to 299 Cau Giay. It 's like all the other places, depends who you get, but my regular is Nga, and she does whatever she can to please. She's not petite. If you go to the back of the car park, there's a kind of shed where they keep the girls. (it's a boiler room but no pun intended). Early evening they sit outside eating, so you can check them out. Recently there are quite a few cuties, so could be worth trying. You ask the name and then request her at the desk. Or try and get phone number. This sort of place is only really for HJ but when it's done well, with lots of teasing, flirting and stroking it can be great. Nga will certainly attend to whichever part of your body you want.

Leaving aside the cost / value arguments, can anyone tell me if there are any FL bars in Hanoi similar to Apocalypse and Go2 in Saigon? I visited HCMC last year and had a blast at both venues. From what I've read here I can't tell if Hanoi has any similar bars; it sounds like there are plenty of billiard bars, but I did investigate a couple of those on my trip to Saigon and I wasn't impressed. Just not my type of scene. I much prefer the more relaxed and slightly mixed atmosphere of FL pickup bars. I'm planning a trip back to Vietnam later this year and would like to see more of the country, but I'm not sure I'll enjoy Hanoi if it's really all billiard bars, BJ shops and massage parlours.

Thanks in advance!

I know there are loads of FLs working in various street locations around the city. What about more upmarket options?

I also know that a couple of ladies advertise on CL. One who is rightly popular, late twenties, medium build and a wild thing in the bedroom. She is amazing and currently advertises something along the lines of Mind Blowing sex. Another is advertising about sucking your cock. She turns out to be a prize starfish others have experienced. When she send you photos, don't be fooled. So not worth it. Shitty attitude and a waste of money. Rumour has it there is a pseudo-escort business being run as well. VND800k for the girl's time then up to you to negotiate for what you really want. Run by a couple that also do phone repairs and the like. Yet to try it but worth investigating. Anyone have experience with this lot?

Anything else? Variety is the spice of life. There must, surely, be other FLs of high quality in this fair city. I'm prepared to spend several million for an upmarket experience from time to time. Appreciate any info.

Not sure if you have heard of the app wechat. Was lying in bed and at 1am got a friend request, she looked ok so I said yes and her first question was do I want to make the sex with her. I was bored so replied yes, she wanted $100. Then she sent a live video request, I accepted, its like the skype video, she is naked rubbing her pussy and showing off her tits. Talk about making technology work for you. First time this has happened to me but was wondering where the Nutz bar crew have gone to and I guess its viral.

It was late, I didn't have the 100 on me and getting out of bed to get her past security into the apartment was to much to ask but for the sake of this board will get her round either tonight or tomorrow and post.

Has anyone responeded to the personals. Women seeking men on NH, Let's try heart-skipping with No String Attached. I sent a pic in, got an amazing pic back and now its gone quiet. Just all sounds a bit fishy, ill follow it to the end but a heads up would be good.

Been once or twice to the Tam Quat at the bottom end of Duong Giang Vo. 300, 000. 500, 000 and you can do just about anything, they put a bed in front of the door so you have the room to yourself, I once went there late and super drunk and must have been upstairs for at least 40mins BJ, sex, anal sex, licked my ass, and a shower after. Never seen anyone else there so its my regular and get greeted like royalty by the manager. Sorry 200, 000 to manager.

Please let me know about NH and Ill advise about wechat.

F sakes, spent 10 mins writing a report and have to start again, sorry but you getting the brief summary and not full report.

App called wechat on my iphone, got a message at 1am on lookaround, she looked ok so I said yes, her fist question is if I wanted to make the sex. Was bored and did so replied yes, bit of back and forth $100, she was in cat linh and had a bike to travel, hotel or my house. Then I get a video request from her, pushed yes and its like the skype chat, she is lying on bed holding the phone rubbing her pussy, showing her tits for about 2 mins. I didn't have the 100 on me and couldn't be arsed to get out of bed to get her past security. Just for you guys ill call her tonight or tomorrow to bring this to conclusion. Wondered where the nutz crowd went but guess they going viral.

Has anyone responded to the classified add on NH, women seeking men, Let's try heart-skipping with No String Attached. Sent in a pic, got an amanzing one back and now its gone quiet. Just sounds a little fishy, has anyone got anything from this?

Been going to the Tam Quat at bottom end of Duong giang vo (close to where it joins kim ma) .200K to the manager then upstairs with girl, she pushes a bed against the door so you can pretty much have the room to yourself. Pay girl 300-500 and have had BJ, FS, anal, licked my ass, once went there at end of the night and was in for 30 mins and she showered me after and I was wasted so it wasnt for the performance I gave her.

Please let me know about the NH and Ill post update on wechat girl.

[QUOTE=OverRedRover; 1411600]Been going to the Tam Quat at bottom end of Duong giang vo (close to where it joins kim ma).200K to the manager then upstairs with girl, she pushes a bed against the door so you can pretty much have the room to yourself. Pay girl 300-500 and have had BJ, FS, anal, licked my ass, once went there at end of the night and was in for 30 mins and she showered me after and I was wasted so it wasnt for the performance I gave her.

Please let me know about the NH and Ill post update on wechat girl.[/QUOTE]I also sent a message to the girl on NH that you mentioned and didn't get a reply. Seems like it might be a scam.

Do you remember the address of the Tam Quat place on Giang Vo?

[QUOTE=JohnAppleseed;1411688]I also sent a message to the girl on NH that you mentioned and didn't get a reply. Seems like it might be a scam.[/QUOTE]Definite scam. Check to see how your porn-spam messages have ticked up considerably since answering the ad.

Sigh.

[QUOTE=JohnAppleseed; 1411688]I also sent a message to the girl on NH that you mentioned and didn't get a reply. Seems like it might be a scam.

Do you remember the address of the Tam Quat place on Giang Vo?[/QUOTE]Very close to 61 giang vo. Sign that says Massage about 5m off the ground. I used to park across the road and walk across but now just dump the bike at the entrance and they can sort if out if need be.

Hi!

I coming back to Hanoi soon and I want to visit few of my favorite spots, but I know in Hanoi the quality / price of the services change very fast.

Please If anyone can answer for me few question:

Moscow:

- The Moscow massage in Tay Ho still in business?

- How much the price? (massage / tip)

- If chose the highest massage service there the girls still do the service in bikini?

- Girls still doing here BJ for higher tip?

Nha Nghi (guesthouse) To Ngoc Van.

- There was few place like this all of them full with girls 5-7 this places still running?

- Price range now? I remember 1 years ago the price was 50 USD for all night room, and 10 USD tip for the girl / shot.

If anyone can help me with answers I can offer few beer in Hanoi! .

Thanks!

Chased this email address and add in TNHH; as it seems have many others. Received a shit load of extra pivate invites to a justdateher website; but nothing more. Damn shame. But if it's too good to be true. It's often exactly that.

[QUOTE=Vnsmurfer;1412263]Chased this email address and add in TNHH; as it seems have many others. Received a shit load of extra pivate invites to a justdateher website; but nothing more. Damn shame. But if it's too good to be true. It's often exactly that.[/QUOTE]I don't think it's a scam, as it's too quirky, too long and too local. I think she's just choosy. Imagine how many replies she got. All of us, for a start! She just responds to the ones she likes the look of, as we would if we got lots of responses to an offer of sex! There are some women who like to find a man for sex, maybe ones who have come out of crappy marriages and don't want another bloke telling them what to do. But not many, just as there are some blokes who advertise for romantic long term partners, but not many!

[QUOTE=Joffre;1412779]I don't think it's a scam, as it's too quirky, too long and too local.[/QUOTE]Have to disagree. All those reasons why she wouldn't reply were just teasers to get more respondents. Scam for sure. Elaborate, but a scam.

finally i arrived back to hanoi at friday. saturday when i woke up i rented a scooter and drive around to search girls!

[b]moscow massage. [/b]

my old favorite place. the vip massages 600k vnd. the girl was 9/10 (name: hoa, small tits but quite long leg and incredible perfect hard spherical ass! really pretty girl) , and she wear only bikini, but i must wear shorts. she gives me a really nice massage and finish with hj. i ask for bj but she try to explain (mix english and vietnamese) it's not possible here. she was really nice and funny (well she made me laugh many times in 2 hour) i give her 400k tip. here you can't pay directly for the girl. she just gives you a paper where you can write how much tip, and you will pay everything at the reception.

at the end i went back to my locker. when i finished the dressing, one of the helper guy give me a small piece of paper. when i open it i saw this: '10pm sex? phone number, hoa. '

i wrote a text message for her: 'yes! 10pm sex! ' her reply was only a coffee shop address. (i will write more about this below)

pro:

really nice girls in bikini (9/10 or even higher)

awesome massage! (sauna with herbs, small pool)

contra:

must wear shorts.

many helper guy running everywhere around. you just meet with them when you walk between 2 rooms. (for example from sauna to the pool) they are really kind and always try to help you, offer you drinks. but they don't disturb you when you are with the girl! (thanks)

[b]hoa[/b]

at the evening i went to the coffee shop where she wanted to meet. i arrived exactly at 10pm i sat down and wait around 15 minutes when i received a text message from her: 'wait 20 min, sorry'. finally around 11pm she arrived, and i surprised. a marvelous dress and really nice make up she was wearing. (before in the moscow i wrote 9/10 here she was 10/10) we agree about the money slowly. she wanted 250 usd for over night, i wanted to pay maximum 150. finally she say okay for 150, but she said i will change my mind and i will want to pay for her minimum 200 at the morning, because she is 'master in sex'. i said okay. let's see. we went back to my hotel room with my scooter, on the way she hug me and kiss my neck from behind.

in the hotel we had a little problem on the reception. they don't want to let i bring girl to my room, but after i paid 100k vnd for the guy he let us in.

the night. i finished 7 times! basically she raped the shit out of me! lots of real kissing fs, bj, bbbjtcws, cim and all pose i know. she hugs me and sleep with me until the morning. (she bring 20 condom in her purse. crazy girl lol!) at the morning i pay her 225 (4. 5 mill. vnd) she doesn't even need to ask the higher money!

i already try minimum 70-80 girl in 5 different countries (include a luxury one for 3000usd) none of them give me a high level service like this. i am still in shock. i am in love?

that was my first 24 hour in vietnam. i love to come back into this country!

more report coming soon! i will be in hanoi in the next 6 month!

Hello all. New to the forum and the Asia scene.

I'm flying into Hanoi but staying in Hai Phong for a couple of days. Any advice on where to find a BBBJ cim in hai phong that's easy to get to? Ill be staying at the harbour view hotel and they have a spa. But not sure what they offer?

Cheers,

Bingo

Anyone know any good easy to get to spots in hai phong? Ill be spending a couple days at the Harbor view and although they have a spa I'm not sure what they offer. Looking for a BBBJ cim.

Cheers.

Yes the Nha Nghi at To Ngoc Van is still there, although I'm not aware what the prices are currently.

[QUOTE=Minus; 1412152]Hi!

I coming back to Hanoi soon and I want to visit few of my favorite spots, but I know in Hanoi the quality / price of the services change very fast.

Please If anyone can answer for me few question:

Moscow:

- The Moscow massage in Tay Ho still in business?

- How much the price? (massage / tip)

- If chose the highest massage service there the girls still do the service in bikini?

- Girls still doing here BJ for higher tip?

Nha Nghi (guesthouse) To Ngoc Van.

- There was few place like this all of them full with girls 5-7 this places still running?

- Price range now? I remember 1 years ago the price was 50 USD for all night room, and 10 USD tip for the girl / shot.

If anyone can help me with answers I can offer few beer in Hanoi! .

Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bingo85; 1413602]Anyone know any good easy to get to spots in hai phong? Ill be spending a couple days at the Harbor view and although they have a spa I'm not sure what they offer. Looking for a BBBJ cim.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]BBBJ is uncommon in Vietnam, and CIM is almost unheard of. However, you can get a HJ at just about most massage places.

If you are generous enough some girls might be persuaded to give BBBJ, but don't expect CIM and certainly don't expect them to be experts at it.

thanks minus.

i was reading this threads with great interrest. i am new here and i would like to have some fun in hanoi.

could anyone share the address of moscow massage.

thanks a lot.

[quote=minus; 1413462]finally i arrived back to hanoi at friday. saturday when i woke up i rented a scooter and drive around to search girls!

[b]moscow massage. [/b]

my old favorite place. the vip massages 600k vnd. the girl was 9/10 (name: hoa, small tits but quite long leg and incredible perfect hard spherical ass! really pretty girl) , and she wear only bikini, but i must wear shorts. she gives me a really nice massage and finish with hj. i ask for bj but she try to explain (mix english and vietnamese) it's not possible here. she was really nice and funny (well she made me laugh many times in 2 hour) i give her 400k tip. here you can't pay directly for the girl. she just gives you a paper where you can write how much tip, and you will pay everything at the reception.

at the end i went back to my locker. when i finished the dressing, one of the helper guy give me a small piece of paper. when i open it i saw this: '10pm sex? phone number, hoa. '

i wrote a text message for her: 'yes! 10pm sex! ' her reply was only a coffee shop address. (i will write more about this below)

pro:

really nice girls in bikini (9/10 or even higher)

awesome massage! (sauna with herbs, small pool)

contra:

must wear shorts.

many helper guy running everywhere around. you just meet with them when you walk between 2 rooms. (for example from sauna to the pool) they are really kind and always try to help you, offer you drinks. but they don't disturb you when you are with the girl! (thanks)

[b]hoa[/b]

at the evening i went to the coffee shop where she wanted to meet. i arrived exactly at 10pm i sat down and wait around 15 minutes when i received a text message from her: 'wait 20 min, sorry'. finally around 11pm she arrived, and i surprised. a marvelous dress and really nice make up she was wearing. (before in the moscow i wrote 9/10 here she was 10/10) we agree about the money slowly. she wanted 250 usd for over night, i wanted to pay maximum 150. finally she say okay for 150, but she said i will change my mind and i will want to pay for her minimum 200 at the morning, because she is 'master in sex'. i said okay. let's see. we went back to my hotel room with my scooter, on the way she hug me and kiss my neck from behind.

in the hotel we had a little problem on the reception. they don't want to let i bring girl to my room, but after i paid 100k vnd for the guy he let us in.

the night. i finished 7 times! basically she raped the shit out of me! lots of real kissing fs, bj, bbbjtcws, cim and all pose i know. she hugs me and sleep with me until the morning. (she bring 20 condom in her purse. crazy girl lol!) at the morning i pay her 225 (4. 5 mill. vnd) she doesn't even need to ask the higher money!

i already try minimum 70-80 girl in 5 different countries (include a luxury one for 3000usd) none of them give me a high level service like this. i am still in shock. i am in love?

that was my first 24 hour in vietnam. i love to come back into this country!

more report coming soon! i will be in hanoi in the next 6 month![/quote]

If you go back enough pages you'll find where it is and some other reviews from me and other people ranging from excellent to mediocre and overpriced. But if you don't want to go back and see previous reviews, it is located in Duong 11, in Ngo 32 of An Duong, Yen Phu in the Tay Ho (Westlake district). It is just on the right after you turn into Duong 11. Here's the Google Maps link.

[url]http://goo.gl/maps/uwi1b[/url]

[QUOTE=Minus;1413462]Finally I arrived back to Hanoi at Friday. Saturday when I woke up I rented a scooter and drive around to search girls! [b]Moscow massage. [/b] More report coming soon! I will be in Hanoi in the next 6 month![/QUOTE]Great report! I am sure your PM will be flooded with inquiries. Ler tme also add that a few days before you put some questions and then you did the best action: you got the answers yourself and gave a meaningufl and informative report. many should do the same in a lot of forums.

Thanks a lot for your reply. I will post a review after give it a try.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins; 1414099]If you go back enough pages you'll find where it is and some other reviews from me and other people ranging from excellent to mediocre and overpriced. But if you don't want to go back and see previous reviews, it is located in Duong 11, in Ngo 32 of An Duong, Yen Phu in the Tay Ho (Westlake district). It is just on the right after U-turn into Duong 11. Here's the Google Maps link.

[url]http://goo.gl/maps/uwi1b[/url][/QUOTE]

If you want to have a coffee and a good blowjob with it, I advice you to go nguyen hoang ton street just behind HIS (Hanoi International school)! This street have a lot of cafe tam quat or tam quat! I tried one and the girl was ok but her skills were excellent!

Does anyone has experience with the love cafes on Kim Ma, opposite the Daewoo Hotel? To be more precise, most of them are on Ngo 535, Kim Ma. It looks interesting, but I am not sure what one can get there. From what I have been seeing from driving by from outside, most of these places are frequented by Japanese / Korean business man. A few however also cater for other folks.

It seems to be a place where you can hang out with a pretty girl, have a few drinks, I am assuming that it's expensive drinks, and she will stroke you and make you feel good. I wouldn't expect much action in there, but who knows. Possibly you can meet the girl for more outside of cafe.

So, yes, these are just assumptions. Would be great to hear from someone who has actually tried one of these places.

Great report on Moscow BTW, Hoa maybe worth visiting. I have been with Thuy at Moscow, who was a great performer. Gave blowjob in the sauna and did a really great job in teasing. But unfortunately she is not working there anymore. Possibly because she was overperforming. Hehe.

I have done those with some Japanese friends and for me it is really a waste of time except to maybe get a number for a girl to meet another day. Most are Japanese style KTV and very expensive. Geared toward Japanese business man with expense account.

[QUOTE=A Nick; 1415135]Does anyone has experience with the love cafes on Kim Ma, opposite the Daewoo Hotel? To be more precise, most of them are on Ngo 535, Kim Ma. It looks interesting, but I am not sure what one can get there. From what I have been seeing from driving by from outside, most of these places are frequented by Japanese / Korean business man. A few however also cater for other folks.

It seems to be a place where you can hang out with a pretty girl, have a few drinks, I am assuming that it's expensive drinks, and she will stroke you and make you feel good. I wouldn't expect much action in there, but who knows. Possibly you can meet the girl for more outside of cafe.

So, yes, these are just assumptions. Would be great to hear from someone who has actually tried one of these places.

Great report on Moscow BTW, Hoa maybe worth visiting. I have been with Thuy at Moscow, who was a great performer. Gave blowjob in the sauna and did a really great job in teasing. But unfortunately she is not working there anymore. Possibly because she was overperforming. Hehe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1415433]I have done those with some Japanese friends and for me it is really a waste of time except to maybe get a number for a girl to meet another day. Most are Japanese style KTV and very expensive. Geared toward Japanese business man with expense account.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the valuable feedback Fritobugger. It sounds like it's not worth the visit then.

I personally like Sakura for a BJ session. They have a good technique, at least most of the girls do and you can negotiate several shots with them if you are a regular. Most girls are a 7 or 8, that makes it also better then most places. But yeah, it gets boring after a while and it would be good to have a more upper-class or at least decent place to get a bit more action, a soapy body to body massage for instance or something similar, possibly FS. I don't like the tendency of massage places that the girls do not undress at all. Sometimes they lift their shirts but that's usually it. Dining at the Y is pretty much no were available according to my knowledge.

Oasis is fairly nice as well for a BJ, although I only went once and the girl was just ok. Not a great technique and she was not that great looking either. I would say a 5 or a 6.

Tam Quats are a bit dirty and dingy in my opinion, even though some offer good service and more action. I guess it depends on who you are.

Has anyone tried the new ZEUS SPA in Tay Ho BTW? Of Au Co street near the waterpark?

I'd have to say I am now bored with Hanoi.

Not many options here, and it has been over three months for me, so I think I have explored most of them.

Overall, I would still say the best options here are. Fortuna and Hanoi Hotel. Yes, they are expensive but it is worth it.

Most of the 200k VND places are not my cup of tea. Other than that, the usual BJ places are pretty expensive. You have to shell atleast a million VND (500+500 tip) if you want to get a BJ at an Oasis or Moscow. I feel that with 2 million VND (100$) , getting FS from a girl of your choosing at Fortuna / Hanoi Hotel is a better deal.

Other places like To Ngoc Van and the rest of the 500k VND. 800k VND places are also not that great for FS. The girl usually acts as a robot through the whole session.

Would like to know some new places from the punters here.

[QUOTE=Sydney316; 1417933]Other places like To Ngoc Van and the rest of the 500k VND. 800k VND places are also not that great for FS. The girl usually acts as a robot through the whole session.

Would like to know some new places from the punters here.[/QUOTE]That's because the girls are not working for themselves. They are mostly trafficked and bought and sold and rented. They may not be able to leave. Sometimes they are forced to work to pay off family debts. Find a real girl, which means either girlfriend or a working girl who is actually earning from her labor and she will be fun!

JD

[QUOTE=A Nick;1416397]Tam Quats are a bit dirty and dingy in my opinion, even though some offer good service and more action. I guess it depends on who you are.[/QUOTE]Tam Quats are actually where you can have the most fun, find the freshest, cutest young girls and pay the lowest prices. But like you said, you need to be able to handle the physical surroundings. They are very small businesses, girls earn a little and move on, owners pay something to LE and they are ok.

The so-called high class places (there really is no such thing as high-class in Vietnam) are owned and run by big business people and the authorities. Just high prices there, mostly a waste of time and money. They are just posing as something for tourists and short-time business visitors but really there is little interesting there.

JD

[QUOTE=JohnAppleseed; 1413741]BBBJ is uncommon in Vietnam, and CIM is almost unheard of. However, you can get a HJ at just about most massage places.

If you are generous enough some girls might be persuaded to give BBBJ, but don't expect CIM and certainly don't expect them to be experts at it.[/QUOTE]John, You have no idea what you're talking about, Vietnam is the world's leading venue for great BBBJ and CIM for around $10. I have had no fewer than 400 such encounters over a decade in Hanoi and Saigon with at least 300 different girls.

[QUOTE=Sydney316; 1417933]I'd have to say I am now bored with Hanoi.

Not many options here, and it has been over three months for me, so I think I have explored most of them.

Overall, I would still say the best options here are. Fortuna and Hanoi Hotel. Yes, they are expensive but it is worth it.

Most of the 200k VND places are not my cup of tea. Other than that, the usual BJ places are pretty expensive. You have to shell atleast a million VND (500+500 tip) if you want to get a BJ at an Oasis or Moscow. I feel that with 2 million VND (100$) , getting FS from a girl of your choosing at Fortuna / Hanoi Hotel is a better deal.

Other places like To Ngoc Van and the rest of the 500k VND. 800k VND places are also not that great for FS. The girl usually acts as a robot through the whole session.

Would like to know some new places from the punters here.[/QUOTE]If dark and dingy doesn't really do it for you (personally I enjoy sampling all ends of the market; banged a great little girl in PVD the other night who was like a little action figure to be put in whatever position you like for 200k VND) and you are willing to shell out good money for a good experience, then I think you should be hitting up my regular to sample her wares. She is independent and I would imagine that her level of service would beat anything from the high-cost hotels you mention as long as you can host. She enjoys her work, which is a rare thing and provides delightful company and conversation over dinner too. She has also received high marks from CaseyStar recently. PM me for her contact info or read back a few pages and you should figure out how to get in touch with her.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins;1418177]If dark and dingy doesn't really do it for you (personally I enjoy sampling all ends of the market; banged a great little girl in PVD the other night who was like a little action figure to be put in whatever position you like for 200k VND) and you are willing to shell out good money for a good experience, then I think you should be hitting up my regular to sample her wares. She is independent and I would imagine that her level of service would beat anything from the high-cost hotels you mention as long as you can host. She enjoys her work, which is a rare thing and provides delightful company and conversation over dinner too. She has also received high marks from CaseyStar recently. PM me for her contact info or read back a few pages and you should figure out how to get in touch with her.[/QUOTE]I am not able to find the PM option on the site.

How much does your contact charge for one night? Also, can you let me know how I can find her contact in past few pages, I read and found the posts where you mentioned her, but not the contact details.

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[QUOTE=Sydney316; 1418253]I am not able to find the PM option on the site.

How much does your contact charge for one night? Also, can you let me know how I can find her contact in past few pages, I read and found the posts where you mentioned her, but not the contact details.[/QUOTE]The contact details are indicatively available from those posts. Read carefully and follow the information. No-one is going to post her details on here.

Dawkins speaks the truth about options. PVD really does have some top little numbers to take a load off. I'd reckon that of anywhere around town for this style, it's the best by far. Some of the girls are very willing indeed. It's try. And see how it goes.

[QUOTE=A Nick;1416397]Has anyone tried the new ZEUS SPA in Tay Ho BTW? Of Au Co street near the waterpark?[/QUOTE]Dropped into Zeus today, for research purposes.

It's fancy, really fancy. And bloody expensive. Cheapest option was VND400k for massage only for 80-90 minutes. I asked about a 30 minute option and was quoted 300k.

I reckon it would be a great place to hang and enjoy some pampering and some fun if you had the dong to shell out at the time. I'm going to keep it in mind and go back in the near future when I have the time for a 90 min massage.

Hi Fellows!

I'm Klaus having arrived in Hanoi some weeks ago before I stumbled across this wonderful forum – thanks for all the advice!

Last Sunday early afternoon I decided to have a little tour around – I didn't expect much action at that time of a Sunday, but I figured I could check out the places.

I started at the Tam Quats in (Ngo) 31 Kim Ma and 66 Giang Vo – but as expected no action.

Than I headed to 28 Hang Chuoi and was offered 50 USD which they quickly loweered to 400 + 200 tip. I declined, however, since I guessed from the expression on the girls faces that they didn't appreciate my bargaining (I assume they regard – as many Vietnamese – foreigners to be 'walking ATMs'). Plus they where not really good looking.

Being nearby I decided to head for Bach Dang looking for numerous Tam Quats that had been mentioned here earlier – couldn't find any (except Oasis 2 which is hard to miss). I assume that even them being closed at that time of the day I should have been able to see some signs. Anyway – maybe some guys can help by giving some house numbers (since the street is very long indeed).

Afterwards I was off to Nguyen Hoang Ton – and here there were, at least 10 Café Tam Quat more or less in a row. However I was too early since I could see through the typical blue and white curtains that there were hardly any girls inside.

In PVD, however, business was up and running already. Around ten houses open with sometimes several girls enthusiastically waving as I cruised by. I picked a cute one on high heels with nicely sized tits (turned out to be all-bra though.) who giggled in excitement when I tried to maneuver me bike into the hut. She suggested 300 which I brought down to 250 (I'm a mean bastard, I know!). Since there were two other girls I had to climb a steep ladder into the 'mezzanine floor'. She allowed some kissing with tongue (more mine than hers, though) and gave me a BBBJ (which I had asked for beforehand by sucking me thumb). However CIM was a strict no-go – so I had to fuck her! Given the expression on her face when I penetrated her, I assume she might have preferred it in the mouth with hindsight.

On the way back I passed Nguyen Hoang Ton again (just because it was on my way home) – but still no action at around 3 pm.

OK – so much for this time, I'll keep you posted.

[QUOTE=FunLoverBerlin; 1419189]Hi Fellows!

I'm Klaus having arrived in Hanoi some weeks ago before I stumbled across this wonderful forum – thanks for all the advice!

Last Sunday early afternoon I decided to have a little tour around – I didn't expect much action at that time of a Sunday, but I figured I could check out the places.

I started at the Tam Quats in (Ngo) 31 Kim Ma and 66 Giang Vo – but as expected no action.

Than I headed to 28 Hang Chuoi and was offered 50 USD which they quickly loweered to 400 + 200 tip. I declined, however, since I guessed from the expression on the girls faces that they didn't appreciate my bargaining (I assume they regard – as many Vietnamese – foreigners to be 'walking ATMs'). Plus they where not really good looking.

Being nearby I decided to head for Bach Dang looking for numerous Tam Quats that had been mentioned here earlier – couldn't find any (except Oasis 2 which is hard to miss). I assume that even them being closed at that time of the day I should have been able to see some signs. Anyway – maybe some guys can help by giving some house numbers (since the street is very long indeed).

Afterwards I was off to Nguyen Hoang Ton – and here there were, at least 10 Café Tam Quat more or less in a row. However I was too early since I could see through the typical blue and white curtains that there were hardly any girls inside.

In PVD, however, business was up and running already. Around ten houses open with sometimes several girls enthusiastically waving as I cruised by. I picked a cute one on high heels with nicely sized tits (turned out to be all-bra though.) who giggled in excitement when I tried to maneuver me bike into the hut. She suggested 300 which I brought down to 250 (I'm a mean bastard, I know!). Since there were two other girls I had to climb a steep ladder into the 'mezzanine floor'. She allowed some kissing with tongue (more mine than hers, though) and gave me a BBBJ (which I had asked for beforehand by sucking me thumb). However CIM was a strict no-go – so I had to fuck her! Given the expression on her face when I penetrated her, I assume she might have preferred it in the mouth with hindsight.

On the way back I passed Nguyen Hoang Ton again (just because it was on my way home) – but still no action at around 3 pm.

OK – so much for this time, I'll keep you posted.[/QUOTE]Good to see a newbie putting in the legwork. Or some other appendage. Couple of updates: 28 Hang Chuoi was great a few years ago but not now. 66 Giang Vo (or 60?) is often closed but I found it open the other day and had a good time! Worth a visit. That street by Ciputra with the 10 BJ cages is always open, you just have to go in. At lunchtime they sleep, but they'll wake up soon enough for 200k BJ. With all tam qats they're mostly horrible, but when you get a good one, they're great. VIP massage is more predictable. Massage and HJ.

Went to Nguyen Hoang Ton the other day.

Got waived into 427 by a cutie. She quoted 200 but when I demanded BJ it was raised to 300.

I didn't want to bargain since it was beginning to rain heavily. We went behind the curtain, she lowered her pants (but didn't take off the bra interestingly). BJ was performed with a lot of hand-usage and – even worse – CIM was rejected and I 'was made' to come into a tissue.

Not so nice – but I didn't argue since rain was poring down like hell and I had to stay in the hut for another 20 minutes until the storm had calmed down.

Any idea where I can get a decent BJ with CIM? I would be prepared to pay higher if the 'outcome' is certain and not left to chance as it seems to be in most of the Tam Quats.

Had another good one on Pham Van Dong over the weekend (early morning as usual) and managed to get the door number for a change. This one was at 237. Nice looking girl in her mid-twenties, died blondish hair. Nice body and pretty decent attitude.

The usual routine, catch her eye, get waved in and park the bike inside. Into the back with a mattress on the floor. She took her time to clean me up with wet-wipes and then proceeded to blow me until I was nice and hard while allowing me access everywhere. This is a bonus as some of the girls down there want to whip a condom on you before you've even had a chance to get properly hard. Once I was ready, she slipped on the condom, got me to lay back and rode me for a while. Then she flipped over for a bit of missionary. She was doing her best to make me cum quickly, but wasn't having much luck as I'd been a busy boy this weekend. After a while of missionary, she turned herself over for a bit of doggy style with her legs together inside mine to make it nice and tight. She was nice and lubed up and was able to take all of me without complaining. She seemed ok with a bit of light spanking of her arse as I was doing my thing.

Clean me up after I was finished and charged 200k VND for the experience. It seems like there are quite a few girls down there that will go for 200k and they aren't all starfish or ugly, you just need to keep trying all the different doors.

Happy exploring

As some of you may know from my previous reports I spent three years working in Hanoi and during that time I enjoyed the best sex life I ever had meeting various ladies via Date In Asia and Tagged, these ranged form a 25 year old nurse to 2 married ladies one in her 40's and one early 50's who was a lecturer of economics at Hanoi University and incidentally not only had a fantastic ass but was the best fuck ever. During my stay apart from paying for meals and drinks I only ever paid for sex once and that was before I built up a stable of regulars.

I was recently in Bangkok for a few months so decided to pop over to Hanoi to catch up with some old work colleagues and hopefully some other friends so I emailed several and received three replies. One had moved south and was working in Can Tho and said she would love to meet up if I could visit her, the nurse by now 28 was living full time with a American but said she would love to meet up for old times sake but it would need to be in the afternoon which was fine by me. The one I was most looking forward to meeting again was Hoa the lecturer she was on a exchange visit to the USA but did say that Lan a friend of hers who I had once briefly met would probably love to meet up for dinner if I invited her. I couldn't remember her at all but I find blind dates exciting so I decided to give her a go, she was delighted to meet for dinner when I contacted her and we settled on The Happy House restaurant on Truc Bach lake which was fortunate as I was using an apartment of a friend at the other end of the lake.

On the evening we had arranged I sat at a table outside the restaurant with a beer so I could get an little advance warning she could not fail to spot me. After about fifteen minutes a typical Vietnamese lady in her 40's slim long black hair and very well dressed waved to me after parking her scooter and then joined me at the table. To cut a long story short we had a delightful meal and apart from being attractive she was delightful company, during the meal she mentioned several times that Hoa had told her all about me which of course I could take in two different ways. When we finished eating she suggested we take coffee on one of the many pavement cafes facing the lake and I suggested she park her scooter in the ground floor parking at my apartment and I am sure you can guess the rest. She was fantastic, Hoa had told her that I was her secret lover and she loved having sex with me so Lan wanted to try as well.

I was surprised at how many middle class married Vietnamese ladies wanted a discrete affair with a western guy and they all said the same thing. They knew their husbands visited massage parlors and brothels especially when having a guys night out and if their husbands were having sex outside the marriage and they didn't want to be left out.

So guys with a little planning it is possible to have a vary active sex life in Hanoi for the cost of a moderate meal

[QUOTE=Darker Knight; 1314794]I know the location very well. But have no clue about the name of the road and the address! The following link will give you an approximate location and all the Tam Quat / Nga Nghi are on the same road. Just walk into anything that looks like a motel and ask for a massage. FS for between 300-500k VND.

[url]https://maps.google.com/maps?q=21.086632[/url]

105. 918594&ll=21. 086512, 105. 918707&spn=0. 001419, 0.002642&num=1&t=m&z=19&iwloc=A.[/QUOTE]Sorry to bother you with the same question again.

Unfortunately I was unable to open the Google-Maps Link you gave and when I enterd the co-ordinates manually, they don't refer to Bac Ninh but to an area in Long Bien just across the bridge from Hanoi center (probably the area with all the KTVs)

I'm intrigued by your idea to go beyond the beaten path away from the rich expats (and even richer Vietnamese) in Hanoi. However, I'm a little hesitant to make the trip to Bac Ninh whithout knowing where to go there – expecially since the other guy couldn't find it (even having a VN driver).

It would be greatly appreciated if you could post more details with respect to the location I promise to post a Google-Maps link as soon as I will be going there!

There are a half dozen or more fairly new Tam Quat on the main road running along the rail road tracks from the area where the Media Markt and the auto dealers are located to the toll road that take you to Halong Bay. It seems a long way to go for some action.

[QUOTE=FunLoverBerlin; 1422351]Sorry to bother you with the same question again.

Unfortunately I was unable to open the Google-Maps Link you gave and when I enterd the co-ordinates manually, they don't refer to Bac Ninh but to an area in Long Bien just across the bridge from Hanoi center (probably the area with all the KTVs)

I'm intrigued by your idea to go beyond the beaten path away from the rich expats (and even richer Vietnamese) in Hanoi. However, I'm a little hesitant to make the trip to Bac Ninh whithout knowing where to go there – expecially since the other guy couldn't find it (even having a VN driver).

It would be greatly appreciated if you could post more details with respect to the location I promise to post a Google-Maps link as soon as I will be going there![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunLoverBerlin; 1420282]Went to Nguyen Hoang Ton the other day.

Got waived into 427 by a cutie. She quoted 200 but when I demanded BJ it was raised to 300.

I didn't want to bargain since it was beginning to rain heavily. We went behind the curtain, she lowered her pants (but didn't take off the bra interestingly). BJ was performed with a lot of hand-usage and – even worse – CIM was rejected and I 'was made' to come into a tissue.

Not so nice – but I didn't argue since rain was poring down like hell and I had to stay in the hut for another 20 minutes until the storm had calmed down.

Any idea where I can get a decent BJ with CIM? I would be prepared to pay higher if the 'outcome' is certain and not left to chance as it seems to be in most of the Tam Quats.[/QUOTE]Do you mean 200 or 300 USD?

Hi Guys.

I am visiting Hanoi and will be staying at Movenpick. Please advise if any contact can be shared and if Movenpick is a friendly hotel.

This is my first visit and any feedback would be highly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Bguy63;1423062]Do you mean 200 or 300 USD?[/QUOTE]Hahaha, I know some girls here are expensive but I'm sure what he was referring to was 200k - 300k VND (200,000 - 300,000 Vietnam Dong)

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins;1423124]Hahaha, I know some girls here are expensive but I'm sure what he was referring to was 200k - 300k VND (200,000 - 300,000 Vietnam Dong)[/QUOTE]thanks for the clarification Richard. That sounds an interesting price.

Looking forward my first visit to Hanoi and Saigon next week.

Any inputs highly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Riverstar; 1422350]I was surprised at how many middle class married Vietnamese ladies wanted a discrete affair with a western guy and they all said the same thing. They knew their husbands visited massage parlors and brothels especially when having a guys night out and if their husbands were having sex outside the marriage and they didn't want to be left out.

So guys with a little planning it is possible to have a vary active sex life in Hanoi for the cost of a moderate meal[/QUOTE]Pretty much my experience as well. And not just with married ladies, some younger as well. Important to have a veneer of respectability, this place isn't Patpong.

I promised last time I am will post new reports soon, but I was busy. So slowly I try to write all the missing reports about the last one month.

[b]Kingston Land massage[/b]

Address: 32 Truong Han Sieu, Hoan Kiem District.

Not Cheap place, but the service is excellent. 800K VND for the 120 min massage. The girl I got was pretty and kind. (8/10) No English knowledge at all, I had to use my Vietnamese knowledge. When I went in the room I start with sauna when I came out The girl already prepare a herbal bath for me in jacuzzi. Before I jump into the water she asked me how much top I willing to give her. I negotiate 500K after this She washed me in the Jacuzzi and give me a HJ. After I moved to the massage table give me a long massage with lava stone, oil, and many other stuff plus anal play. The massage finished with other HJ. Go back to the Jacuzzi for the final bath, and the final HJ.

I asked for BJ but the price was 1. 5 million VND. Too high price. So I asked only for HJ.

[b]Pro: [/b]

Lots of HJ, professional massage.

[b]Contra: [/b]

The girl dressed all the time she just let you move you hand under her cloth.

[QUOTE=Minus;1424168]I asked for BJ but the price was 1. 5 million VND. Too high price. So I asked only for HJ.[/QUOTE]I need to say most of Viet massage / KTV girls are illusive on their own. This is a common practice among them.

You might think this is a rude manner but if you go to a massage lounge, ask the girl to do what you can't do. You can't do BJ, you can't fcuk on your own, right? It's waste of money paying for a HJ.

[QUOTE=Mr Male; 1424508]I need to say most of Viet massage / KTV girls are illusive on their own. This is a common practice among them.

You might think this is a rude manner but if you go to a massage lounge, ask the girl to do what you can't do. You can't do BJ, you can't fcuk on your own, right? It's waste of money paying for a HJ.[/QUOTE]Thats why, now I prefer to go Tam Quat, at least have BJ, I only will go VIP massage when I really tired after working, just want to relax.

Anyway my home is very near kingston, any bro go to Kingston can contact me, we can have a beer / coffee session.

Does anyone have good information or knowledge about mongering opportunities in Sapa?

Thanks.

LexLuther

[QUOTE=LexLuther; 1424880]Does anyone have good information or knowledge about mongering opportunities in Sapa?

Thanks.

LexLuther[/QUOTE]Hi,

You might try to pick up one of the "Minority"-Girls peddling there wares in the street. They have the reputation among Vietnamese to be sexually very "liberal". Unfortunately they also have the reputation of not washing themselves regularly.

Seriously. I think your chances are higher in Lao Cai where there should be some places catering to the Chinese and Vietnamese smugglers.

[QUOTE=FunLoverBerlin; 1424947]Hi,

You might try to pick up one of the "Minority"-Girls peddling there wares in the street. They have the reputation among Vietnamese to be sexually very "liberal". Unfortunately they also have the reputation of not washing themselves regularly.

Seriously. I think your chances are higher in Lao Cai where there should be some places catering to the Chinese and Vietnamese smugglers.[/QUOTE]Ok bro. Thanks. That makes a lot of sense. Don't want a stinky girl.

LexLuther

[QUOTE=LexLuther; 1425082]Ok bro. Thanks. That makes a lot of sense. Don't want a stinky girl.

LexLuther[/QUOTE]This idea that the ethnic minority girls are uneducated and unwashed is bad propaganda put about by the ethnic majority Vietnamese (what they call Kinh).

Most of what you call the minority girls who work in the tourist trade in Sapa are far more civilized and educated than the local Vietnamese. This is because they have escaped the communist education system and can easily. They seem to be able to learn English quickly and very well as well as to interact with tourists and foreign visitors. Some of the more intelligent conversations have been with these girls in Sapa. But my experience with them is that they are happy to talk to you, be a tour guide and all the rest but will not put out for money. THey will marry the right guy, and if that is what you want, you could do a lot worse. A few foreigners that I heard of have married these girls and are still happily so.

Stop any woman in Sapa and ask her directions. If Vietnamese, she will not likely understand you. Even if you speak Vietnamese (and she understands your way of pronouncing!) , she won't know the hotel you are asking directions to. The minority girl will very likely answer you in reasonable English.

Now to the mongering. I would be surprised if there were any hobby possibilities in Sapa now. Back a few years ago I searched the town with the help of a foreign Vietnamese guy (who spoke Vietnamese) and we found a massage / coffee shop place that charged 600K up front. The girls were all Vietnamese and the price was all-inclusive full-service for one hour but only one room for on site. We had to do scissors, rock, paper to decide who went first. The next time I went to Sapa it was closed down. I searched the town and went for massages in several of the places advertising but not even HJ was on offer.

By the way, you will have a terrible time with bringing a local girl to your room. The hotel / GH will not allow it unless you register together.

If you want some action, why not bring it with you from Hanoi. Find an easy-going girl of easy virtue who speaks a few words of English and make a deal with her. Sapa and so much a day pocket money while you pay the food and accommodation. It is highly unlikely she will ever have been to Sapa before. Just make sure she brings enough warm clothing as it can get a bit chilly up there.

Where ever I travel I link up with local girls via facebook finding them is easy- Singapore Doll, KL Chick, Hanoi Doll- link up have a chat and within a couple of days for the price of a lunch- bingo.

This approach also lets they and you check each other out to make sure both parties will be happy with the net results- happy hunting.

As I've said before, I'm a bit of a sucker for VIP massages. Something I have been trying lately is going local and trying the places never mentioned on here.

What I can say is that going to a VIP place near your home is likely to be a lot cheaper for the same result. I have tried a few in my area and each has their pluses and minuses. Today I went to my nearest local haunt. Had a girl who rates about a 6-7 overall. Very generous in the tits department. Good service, lots of nice teasing and a lovely build up to a HJ near the end, followed by a hot bath. Total cost. 300k for the 90 minutes plus 300k as a tip. The attendants indicated BJ is available now that I am a bit of a regular. I suspect FS as well as there's a hotel thingo over the road that frequently has lunchtime activity. Usually I expect to offload up to 1m VND for a good VIP at a well known place. Going local makes it a lot cheaper and I still get pretty girls who do everything I am after.

Local for me is around Cau Giay area and there are heaps of options.

Try local. You just never know.

[QUOTE=CaseyStar; 1418862]Dropped into Zeus today, for research purposes.

It's fancy, really fancy. And bloody expensive. Cheapest option was VND400k for massage only for 80-90 minutes. I asked about a 30 minute option and was quoted 300k.

I reckon it would be a great place to hang and enjoy some pampering and some fun if you had the dong to shell out at the time. I'm going to keep it in mind and go back in the near future when I have the time for a 90 min massage.[/QUOTE]Maybe it is just me, but 400k is about $19 USD. Bloody expensive? I am visiting soon and hope to spend so little.

[QUOTE=Johhnny;1428950]Maybe it is just me, but 400k is about $19 USD. Bloody expensive? I am visiting soon and hope to spend so little.[/QUOTE]Yes well actually the TOTAL price is 400+400tip =800k, and yes 40dollars for a HJ isn't expensive, but given that locals know places that AT MOST you would pay ONLY 400k total, then yes it would be considered expensive relatively. BUt then with attitudes regarding what is cheap and expensive like yours, then you would never find these cheaper places like posted online.

[QUOTE=CoolMachine; 1427479]Where ever I travel I link up with local girls via facebook finding them is easy- Singapore Doll, KL Chick, Hanoi Doll- link up have a chat and within a couple of days for the price of a lunch- bingo.

This approach also lets they and you check each other out to make sure both parties will be happy with the net results- happy hunting.[/QUOTE]My own experience for my 5 hanoi trips was to get a local girl also. A regular girl. Found a couple of them. My only expenditure is for dinner and taxi if they take one. These are not sex workers, they have real jobs and families. They speak english to varying degrees and range in age from 25-40 (I'm fine with older women, really not into the 18 year olds myself but that is me). As for hotels in Hanoi, if the girls bring their I'd and you pay a bit extra, they can stay over. I'm told that the police from time to time drop in and check the "register" so the hotels where I stay (boutique places) like to have all IDs on file and no questions are asked then by authorities.

Agree with the poster who says if you go to SAPA bring you own girl. Since you stay there for a short time, its hard to get 'wheels on the ground" quickly, at least that is my experience.

GG

Hanoi scam, told cabbie to take me to happy ending massage, went to the first one and he quoted 500, 000 downstairs for a happy ending, which seemed acceptable, walked up 4 flights of stairs to the crusty sauna and showers area, strip off to have a shower, as soon as the water hits me he says one million, so I'm stark naked having an angry confrontation with these 2 pimps. Dress and leave, hail another cab and go to another joint,

This one is a karaoke bar and all the gangsters / pimps are asleep in the karaoke lounge, they are all hustled out and the half asleep pimp (this is at lunch time) tries to sell me a half hour karaoke package while he goes to wake up some girls, no dice.

Take a third cab to another massage parlour. The friendly guy downstairs says yeah 400 for happy ending or 600 for boom boom, just pay the girl and tip me something later. All too easy. Went to the room and picked the prettier of the 2 girls on offer. She proceeds to give me a scrub in the bath, facial treatment, lame massage and finally terrible hand job all in about 40 mins. I gave her the 500, 000 only because I promised it to her beforehand, and went to leave.

Not so simple, after some discussions outside, suddenly there are three gangsters in the room, the main one lights up a cigarette and presents me with a trumped up handwritten invoice for 1. 8 million itemising the facial, bath scrub, cup of tea and other misc bullshit. The sudden realization that you are in a scam is a very sobering experience I can tell you, and having the three pimps blocking the exit, well you can imagine, one minute you're having a shit massage, massage the next minute you're in a be grade gangster film. I tried disputing the bill, but I knew where this was headed, I was their ATM machine today, after a few minutes I agreed to pay a further 1. 5 million which was about all I had in my wallet. I was 300, 000 ($13. 84) short of their invoice and the gangsters didn't like it. So surreal to see these guys operate their scam face to face. I suppose a bog standard extortion and hostage setup till the bill is paid. They talked about it not being their money, it was their bosses money, did they want me to call the big boss? I didn't like the sound of that.

So they basically kidnapped me and took me to the ATM by taxi. 2 of them plus a random driver 4 in the cab, heading to an ATM in a very public street in broad daylight. My head was spinning. 4 days earlier I had heard about an aussie leb that had been driven to an outer suburb ATM while pissed at night, then he had to empty his account at knifepoint. But I had to calm my nerves and think what to do. This was a small time scam, $90, certainly not worth starting a scuffle. Police advice is always to do what they say. If you do start something, move towards the road where you can attract attention. The guys were not big, but for gangsters; winning a street fight is a point of honour. What kind of gangster wants to lose a street fight to a tourist? I was also unsure of what weapons they were carrying if any, but I would not have been at all surprised at all to see a knife come out of a pocket if things went bad. In hindsight, these guys were conscious of the fact that I could have guided police back to their shop, so they didn't want to rob me, that really worked in my favour as I had a credit card in my wallet. I was thinking of ways to throw the credit card away in the gutter before they got to it. Maybe I could run but that would likely end in a scuffle or fight, where they would likely want revenge as well. At the ATM they were trying to look inconspicuous about 6m away from me and didn't try to get my pin.

Local people in the street were looking at us, they knew something was not right, but they didn't do anything helpful. The ATMs were not working we tried 3. Thank Christ my Australian bank set a limit on my daily withdrawal. I showed them the error message each time. Finally back in the cab just driving around slowly as I tried to explain the daily limit using sign language their English was rubbish. Finally they called the big boss, and his English was better so I spoke to him on the phone. He asked how much I had already paid. 2 million I said. 500 to the girl and 1500 to the gang. Come on, I tried to bargain with him, it's enough already! He more or less agreed and after speaking with the pimp clowns they agreed I could be released, I ended up joking with them 2 million! Its good for you. What a fucking relief. But I wasn't out of the woods yet. They left me with the random cabbie, who one gangster had given detailed instructions earlier during the drive, suddenly he didn't want me to get out either, but I was way less afraid of him. Likely they instructed him to find the name of my hotel which none of them knew so far, I showed him my empty wallet, but he still didn't want me to get out. So I jumped out, ran away and hailed a second cab. Jumped in the second cab like something out of a Jason Bourne film and laid down in the back and told him go, go go! We took off with the other cab in pursuit. I still had no money so after about 5 k's I threw my last 20k on the front seat jumped out when he stopped at the light, sprinted off into an alley with cab in pursuit. Turns out the alley was a dead end and a second cab had joined the pursuit, possibly the gangsta cab, couldn't be sure. Neither of them wanted to fight, so I just bolted out of the dead end and escaped into a nearby high end mall. I don't think they saw where I went. I holed up in the mall for an hour to regroup and figure out what to do next. I was still ten k's away from my hotel and no money.

After an hour I walked back to the hotel through the afternoon heat. The whole thing only cost me $2 million, so all a bit silly really. Lessons learned: Never use massage parlours in Hanoi. Always have a limit on your ATM daily withdrawal. Being a walking ATM is not a joke, it is a fact. You are a legitimate target in Vietnam.

[QUOTE=Sunday8493; 1429431]Hanoi scam, told cabbie to take me to happy ending massage, went to the first one and he quoted 500, 000 downstairs for a happy ending, which seemed acceptable, walked up 4 flights of stairs to the crusty sauna and showers area, strip off to have a shower, as soon as the water hits me...[/QUOTE]I've had bad experiences when asking random cabbies for advice. Most of the time you will get scammed. You're better off relying on the advice in this forum on where to go.

[QUOTE=Gromit8;1430100]I've had bad experiences when asking random cabbies for advice. Most of the time you will get scammed. You're better off relying on the advice in this forum on where to go.[/QUOTE]Yeah first rule in Vietnam is to never accept offers from cabbies or motorbike taxis who say they will bring you for a massage, KTV or "boom-boom".9 times out of 10 you will either be cheated or worse, robbed. Sunday8493's experience was bad but believe me, I've heard a lot worse including people being held up at knife-point by a group of thugs inside a KTV.

[QUOTE=FunLoverBerlin; 1420282]Went to Nguyen Hoang Ton the other day...[/QUOTE]Hi,

Twice now I have been to 469 Thuy Khue St on edge almost of Westlake and headed upstairs to a room. 3 beds / tables and curtains but quite clean compared to usual Tam Quat.

First time had a CIM laying down. Gal dropped her underwear and brought out her tits to play with and same second time but this gal was okay about kneeling down and giving a CIM BJ while I was standing and could hold her head to be sure my load went in to her mouth. Then she discreetly spat it into a tissue. Her name she said was Su Su

Both probably 6-7, quite young and pleasant and skill level okay!

Cost 400,000 vnd but I didn't really bargain and probably could get it down to 200,000 vnd maybe.

Its a big house so you can just drive in the entrance straight of the street and seem to be open from lunchtime onwards

Hi,

So this is possible at 469 Thuy Khue St. Large house so you can just drive in. There are a number of Tam Quats along this street that you can drive into.

Been twice and both gals took the load then quietly spat it into a tissue.

Second visit the gal Su Su let me stand and she knelt. After so tit and pussy play. So could hold her head to be sure she took the load.

Both times about 400, 000vnd without any bargaining.

Gals 6-7, friendly, let you play with tits and pussy. Didn't inquire about full service but who knows.

Rooms upstairs. Much nicer / larger than normal Tam Quats. 3 beds / tables with curtains and I was alone both times.

Semm to be open from lunchtime onwards.

Hi Guys:

I'll be in Hanoi in a few weeks. 10 Hotels are being offered, any advice based on :

1. Nearby mongering possibilities.

2. Ability to bring a lady back to the hotel.

3. Others, safety etc.

Here's the list:

Renaissance Saigon Riverside Hotel

Mercure Hanoi La Gare.

Caravelle Hotel

Sofitel Plaza Hanoi

Hilton Hanoi Opera Hotel

Hotel Lanvien.

Intercontinental Hanoi Westlake

Hilton Garden Inn Hanoi

Moevenpick Hotel Hanoi

Sofitel Saigon Plaza

Thanks!

Sharky (1st time to Hanoi.)

[QUOTE=Sharky Skinner; 1433540]Hi Guys:

I'll be in Hanoi in a few weeks. 10 Hotels are being offered, any advice based on :

1. Nearby mongering possibilities.

2. Ability to bring a lady back to the hotel.

3. Others, safety etc.

Here's the list:

Intercontinental Hanoi Westlake

Thanks!

Sharky (1st time to Hanoi.) [/QUOTE]Well, I'll be staying at the Westlake. Travel folks needed an aswer today. If anyone knows of any fun places nearby, please let me know.

Sharky

[QUOTE=Sharky Skinner; 1434021]Well, I'll be staying at the Westlake. Travel folks needed an aswer today. If anyone knows of any fun places nearby, please let me know.

Sharky[/QUOTE]Please report back on your experiences. I'll be a Hanoi first-timer in a couple of months also at the Intercontinental.

It's worth taking a look at the personal ads in the classified section of "The New Hanoian" web site which is a website for expats living in Hanoi and over the years I have had some success using this site. Occasionally you will find a working girl looking for business but more often girls who are not professionals just at times short of cash and are happy to be wined dined and fucked for a little present, or some ladies who are just looking for fun with a western guy. I have met some lovely young girls but the best has been some very classy middle aged ladies who not only know exactly what they want and how they want it but also what a man needs as well

Posting your own add with a throw away e-mail address is also not a bad idea. I have had good luck with this also. Nothing too overt.

[QUOTE=Riverstar;1437600]It's worth taking a look at the personal ads in the classified section of "The New Hanoian" web site which is a website for expats living in Hanoi and over the years I have had some success using this site. Occasionally you will find a working girl looking for business but more often girls who are not professionals just at times short of cash and are happy to be wined dined and fucked for a little present, or some ladies who are just looking for fun with a western guy. I have met some lovely young girls but the best has been some very classy middle aged ladies who not only know exactly what they want and how they want it but also what a man needs as well[/QUOTE]

Hi guys,

Presently in Hanoi, first time in Asia, plan on spending 1 month in Vietnam then on Cambodia then fly back home August 17 from Thailand but no solid plans. If I find fun might just stay in Vietnam. If possible would like to get together with someone to explore chick places and clubs. I stay in 25-30 $ places and would like to try to find Asian girlfriend.

I've spent 5 months ea of the last 12 years in Coata Rica, Panama, Nicaragua, and Cuba, started out with no Spanish and a phrase book and did pretty good.

Would like someone to check out FS places and clubs with someone well mannered person.

There is a add in the personal section from a girl who is looking for fun with white guys, she has send me some pics and has confirmed to me that she is not looking for a relationship just good sex. Unfortunately I have just left Hanoi and won't be back until November so if anyone manages to catch up with her I would be grateful if you could tell me how it went. I haven't posted her pic as I don't have her permission but if I was still in Hanoi I would love to give her one

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins;1418177]If dark and dingy doesn't really do it for you (personally I enjoy sampling all ends of the market; banged a great little girl in PVD the other night who was like a little action figure to be put in whatever position you like for 200k VND) and you are willing to shell out good money for a good experience, then I think you should be hitting up my regular to sample her wares. She is independent and I would imagine that her level of service would beat anything from the high-cost hotels you mention as long as you can host. She enjoys her work, which is a rare thing and provides delightful company and conversation over dinner too. She has also received high marks from CaseyStar recently. PM me for her contact info or read back a few pages and you should figure out how to get in touch with her.[/QUOTE]Interested in meeting your regular and am happy to "shell out good money," as you put it, for the experience. I'm not a paying member on this forum but would be much obliged to receive her contact info.

Thank you in advance.

It's been a long time since I wrote on the forum.

Beside going to regular places (massage, Tam Quat in nguyen xien) , I went to PVD. When I go to PVD, I always go to the last house (number 229) , first because she's always alone and after some time, she is open to new idea!

I also went to Ha Dong district to try again some new Tam Quat and some massage parlor (in quan Trung street)!

On my way to Hai Phong, I saw the Bac Ninh tam quat in the corner but didn't go in. I will try next time that I will go to Hai Phong or Hai Duong!

I tried to use CL but it's shit. People do answer but don't want to go further message. So trying in CL, it's a waste of time. Same with the new hanoian.

I have a new regular! She is from Saigon and I met her in a massage parlor. She's young and only 20y. Don't have much experience but she's willing to learn and she is having fun also! Went to some small trip with her and it was nice!

I will try to keep her long!

[QUOTE=MinaTour; 1443367]Interested in meeting your regular and am happy to "shell out good money," as you put it, for the experience. I'm not a paying member on this forum but would be much obliged to receive her contact info.

Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]I am not going to post her contact details on here. That said, if you take the time to read back through mine and CaseyStar's reports, you'll figure out how to get hold of her.

2 new Tam Quat were opened this week on Ngoc Hoi near the bus station nuoc ngam and the car shop!

Those are small place with only three beds and most of the time you are alone in those Tam Quat!

I paid 100k to enter and I tip 100k to the girl (BTW It's only blowjob, handjob was practically inexistant! She took it slow with the BJ and didn't try to rush things! And if I think correctly, FS was available!)! She was quite happy and told me to come back!

Riverstar,

New Hanoian,

There is a add in the personal section from a girl who is looking for fun with white guys, she has send me some pics and has confirmed to me that she is not looking for a relationship just good sex. Unfortunately I have just left Hanoi and won't be back until November so if anyone manages to catch up with her I would be grateful if you could tell me how it went. I haven't posted her pic as I don't have her permission but if I was still in Hanoi I would love to give her one.

Yes I hit that. Does what it says on the tin. Good fun but her phone was ringing off the hook, I think she is with someone different every night. Had to book a week in adv, apparantly people like free poon.

Mentioned this before but there are lots of girls on the wechat app, they will send you a friend request and chat politely (need to google translate) but if you quickly state what you're after just about all have quickly said they want some cash. Told one 200VND and she came round to the house for a few hours. Something for members to maybe look into.

Well someone on Craigslist really seems to have it in for my regular girl at the moment. I'm guessing some local guy, cheap backpacker or English teacher she probably turned down. Now whenever she posts an advert he puts one up claiming she is a gay Vietnamese guy trying to trick you. She is understandably annoyed and upset about this since it is losing her some business.

I've posted my own Craigslist ad defending her and telling people to come here and check out her reviews. So, maybe you guys could repay the favour for all the info I've posted since joining. If you've met my regular, do her a solid and write a review about her on here. I know CaseyStar has written about her in the past.

She has the following ads on Craigslist, if you've met her, write about her please.

"Mind Blowing Sex", "Sporty and Sophisticated", "Full Girlfriend Experience"

In the past she's been "Satisfy Your Desires", "Educated, Beautiful and Passionate" and "Juicy Girl for Hot Steamy Time".

Cheers
RD

You are absolutely right. On Craiglist a nice girl is said to cheat: Sugardady something . She is okay No probs.

Mik

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins; 1447106]Well someone on Craigslist really seems to have it in for my regular girl at the moment. I'm guessing some local guy, cheap backpacker or English teacher she probably turned down. Now whenever she posts an advert he puts one up claiming she is a gay Vietnamese guy trying to trick you. She is understandably annoyed and upset about this since it is losing her some business.

I've posted my own Craigslist ad defending her and telling people to come here and check out her reviews. So, maybe you guys could repay the favour for all the info I've posted since joining. If you've met my regular, do her a solid and write a review about her on here...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins; 1447106].

She has the following ads on Craigslist, if you've met her, write about her please.

"Mind Blowing Sex","Sporty and Sophisticated","Full Girlfriend Experience"

In the past she's been "Satisfy Your Desires","Educated, Beautiful and Passionate" and "Juicy Girl for Hot Steamy Time".

Cheers.

Road[/QUOTE]There is another real one by the name Je. Hope you have tried her.

[QUOTE=MikVerlaine; 1447201]You are absolutely right. On Craiglist a nice girl is said to cheat: Sugardady something. She is okay No probs.

Mik[/QUOTE]The Sugardaddy girl is someone else, not my regular, the guy trashing her / them doesn't even seem to know the difference.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins;1447452]The Sugardaddy girl is someone else, not my regular, the guy trashing her / them doesn't even seem to know the difference.[/QUOTE]The gal who used Sugar Daddy this week is legitimate as I have met her.

Jul 12 Naughty baby wants to be spoilt by a sugar daddy. W4m (Hanoi)

Just who is writing this stuff attacking the w4m ads after lots of adverts with pictures of supposedly guys who were posting adverts. Is anyones guess.

Would be keen to met your regular also but really can only meet daytime.

[QUOTE=OverRedRover; 1446812]Riverstar,

New Hanoian,

There is a add in the personal section from a girl who is looking for fun with white guys, she has send me some pics and has confirmed to me that she is not looking for a relationship just good sex. Unfortunately I have just left Hanoi and won't be back until November so if anyone manages to catch up with her I would be grateful if you could tell me how it went. I haven't posted her pic as I don't have her permission but if I was still in Hanoi I would love to give her one.

Yes I hit that. Does what it says on the tin. Good fun but her phone was ringing off the hook, I think she is with someone different every night. Had to book a week in adv, apparantly people like free poon.[/QUOTE]Better forget that woman, if she has an email with hoa in it. A waste of time and money. Talks a lot but no performance at all. First time was halfway ok, but I made the mistake to take her another couple of times. Promised to get better but turned out worse instead. PM me for more info. There are surely better ways to waste money in Hanoi.

Vietnam Cupid is packed full of hot Hanoi girls you can check out their pics make your approach and straight away get connected.

I've already had a couple of successful link ups.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins;1447452]The Sugardaddy girl is someone else, not my regular, the guy trashing her / them doesn't even seem to know the difference.[/QUOTE]Get me in touch with your regular? Ty, Best, Mik

[QUOTE=MikVerlaine;1448038]Get me in touch with your regular? Ty, Best, Mik[/QUOTE]You'll have to reply to one of her ads on Craigslist, as I assume you don't have PM capabilities.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins;1448979]You'll have to reply to one of her ads on Craigslist, as I assume you don't have PM capabilities.[/QUOTE]I will say again, I completely endorse Dawkins' comments about this lady. She is a lady. Don't forget it. Road has pointed you to her ads. Click and type, it's not all that hard.

On a different topic, and returning to the concept of 'free stuff', I reiterate that it is easily possible to connect with a range of Viet women through various forums that have already been mentioned on here. My advice is this: be a gentleman about it. Be kind, be caring, be interested and be gentle. If you post an ad asking for raw sex, you will get replies from hookers and those simply seeking payment of various kinds. If you think about what you post, you will meet some amazing women who genuinely want no strings sexual relationships. They are out there and in numbers. One other piece of advice: don't look for 'pretty young things' if you want quality experiences. Look for late twenties to mid-thirties and I guarantee you will find willing women who will get to know you and, if you get on well and are good to them, they will open their entire body and fantasy life to you every time and be willing to help fulfill whatever fantasy you may have lurking deep within.

Hanoi truly is a goldmine if you're willing to be patient, considerate and kind.

What a fun read!

Great advice. And a great story! I loved it!

[QUOTE=Sunday8493; 1429431]Hanoi scam, told cabbie to take me to happy ending massage, went to the first one and he quoted 500, 000 downstairs for a happy ending, which seemed acceptable, walked up 4 flights of stairs to the crusty sauna and showers area, strip off to have a shower, as soon as the water hits me he says one million, so I'm stark naked having an angry confrontation with these 2 pimps. Dress and leave, hail another cab and go to another joint,

This one is a karaoke bar and all the gangsters / pimps are asleep in the karaoke lounge, they are all hustled out and the half asleep pimp (this is at lunch time) tries to sell me a half hour karaoke package while he goes to wake up some girls, no dice.

Take a third cab to another massage parlour. The friendly guy downstairs says yeah 400 for happy ending or 600 for boom boom, just pay the girl and tip me something later. All too easy. Went to the room and picked the prettier of the 2 girls on offer. She proceeds to give me a scrub in the bath, facial treatment, lame massage and finally terrible hand job all in about 40 mins. I gave her the 500, 000 only because I promised it to her beforehand, and went to leave...[/QUOTE]

Thanks, this is absolutely right advice for expat guy, do you have any idea for a local guy? Do you know any VIP massage in hanoi where they have female expat?

I'm here to post a disgusting experience, look out guys.

Chatted up a working "gal" thru I'm app a couple of days ago, then made an appointment in a hotel. I did my homework: I checked the location on google and decided not to bring too much cash. What a fool I was to think that I'm fully prepared for anything coming. I went to the hotel and they didn't even ask for ID, so directly went to the room. First impression was ok when I saw the gal, off we went to business. I was not surprised when she asked to dim the lights, it's Vietnam anyway. And after a little BJ she started to ride me. A thought flashed in my head when I started to observe her breast (I love this stuff when I was under). It's just not right! Difficult to explain but her chest is just a little bit muscular for a gal, and the breast is just too small. Then I noticed that she closed her thigh tightly even when riding me. I suddenly realized what might be happening and managed to get my hand between her thigh. WTF! Now I understand what disgust really means when I touched that soft stuff. I ran off like hell and was disgusted until now.

Lesson: Don't fuck working "gal" until you are sure she is a gal.

Finding: A25 is a chain hotel and you can find lots of it all over Hanoi. It must be girl friendly to support such business.

[QUOTE=TonyStark;1451958]Thanks, this is absolutely right advice for expat guy, do you have any idea for a local guy? Do you know any VIP massage in hanoi where they have female expat?[/QUOTE]That's an interesting question! There might be a lot of demand for it, but I'm sure though that most foreigner ladies are teaching English in Hanoi. Because if they are in the massage business, they would make a lot more in their home country. I would love to be proven wrong though!

Unless you mean Chinese, Japanese, Korean, then of course you can find some in Hanoi.

But, I would be very interested in hearing from a local Vietnamese about some good unknown places to go to have some fun. The kind of places where they've never had a foreigner come in before. I like feeling special LOL.

As I pass by a small alley one day, I saw a lot of Tam Quat shops. There must be game because inside each shop sits several girls with clothers barely cover their breasts and a gang-like young man sits outside. I didn't have the chance to find out that night because I was escorting customers to their homes. Anybody in the forum knows what the routine is in Tam Quat places?

After checking on Google, I think the name of that alley should be Dinh Cong Ha. Anybody interested can give it a shot, I'm kinda busy recently but I will post follow up reports after checking it out.

[QUOTE=BlackStreetGhost; 1454094]As I pass by a small alley one day, I saw a lot of Tam Quat shops. There must be game because inside each shop sits several girls with clothers barely cover their breasts and a gang-like young man sits outside. I didn't have the chance to find out that night because I was escorting customers to their homes. Anybody in the forum knows what the routine is in Tam Quat places?

After checking on Google, I think the name of that alley should be Dinh Cong Ha. Anybody interested can give it a shot, I'm kinda busy recently but I will post follow up reports after checking it out.[/QUOTE]"Tam Quat" is Vietnamese for massage. But if you see girls waiting around like that, then you can imagine what part of your body they want to massage! I'm not familiar with that area of town, but you can search the thread for other places people have tried. In any case, when you go in normally you make it very clear what you want before hand (either full service "boomboom" or BJ) and what the price is. If not, then you somehow walked into a legit Tam Quat and will get a crappy massage on a cheap folding table meant for the working class locals.

Be sure to post that follow up, it's sure to be an interesting read! I was going to try out a Tam Quat I found on Bo Song Quan Hoa, but I've been busy having fun with Wechat girls for free LOL.

The usual places were getting kinda boring, and my friend noticed a new massage place that opened up, so we decided to check it out. Geisha Massage in Cau Giay.

The place itself was pretty nice. It wasn't extra fancy like the Fortuna spa, but it was clean and everything was new. We chose the 2 hour VIP massage for 500k, and took the elevator up to the second floor. The rooms were big enough, including a massage table, shower stall, and big spa tub. It was definitely a big improvement over the aging Oasis!

My girl, Nhung, was pretty hot. Tall with long hair and a nice slim body. She asked me to take off my clothes and put them in the cabinet, then led me into the steam room. After I was covered in sweat and sitting there for what seemed like forever and it started to get hard to breathe, she got me out and dried me off with a towel. Then the massage itself was pretty good, with a gritty cream. Obviously it depends on what girl you get, but she definitely put a lot of effort into it, paying special attention to massage my cock and balls for a bit.

After the main massage, it was into the shower where she washed my hair and soaped me up, again making sure my little friend was enjoying himself. After washing off the soap, it was back to the massage table where she sat down beside me to begin the sales pitch. I said just 200k, but she said she can't use her mouth for under 500k. I'm sure 500k would be more than enough for a blow job, but I'm not one to haggle so we eventually agreed on 1m. (sorry, yes I'm personally responsible for inflating prices in Hanoi!.)

She was slow, delicate and sensual as she licked my nipples and let her hands wander. It also didn't take me long to start fondling her nice ass. Her tongue action on my cock was excellent, nice and slow and licking all over instead of just trying to make me cum fast. At this point she was rubbing her crotch into my hand and breathing heavy. I noticed that the underwear she wore was extra padded as a deterrent to the groping guys LOL. I'm sure my fingers could have gone inside, but. Well I'd rather avoid that with massage girls.

After my release a good while later, she laid down with me on the table, sucking on my ear and kissing my neck. After I recovered, she led me to the waiting spa tub, turned on the jets for me and sat down next to me, lovingly stroking my belly. If it all was an act, well it didn't matter because it was believable and I definitely had a happy ending at Geisha Massage!

Geisha Massage One: So 8, dung so 2, Tran Thai Tong, Cau Giay.

Off topic a little, but has anyone seen any joints with a pregnant masseuse?

I've always had a thing for pregnant women and would really like to meet one!

So if you know of anywhere, can you let me know the address?

Thanks!

Is this the place sandwiched between a playschool and a bbq chicken place on Pham Van Dong St? Well, just off the street through some gates?

I've been in there a few times but there is always quite a few staff members so I just come away with bread and cheese, no milk.

[QUOTE=HanoiSex; 1335074]I think she can only take few clients, worry about getting new clients.

Mini mart I don't know but probably she is not an owner so she can close the shop all the time.

And Mini mart is the main business.

Only reason she is doing milking for few clients to make extra cash.

I can tell you where it is, but I am worrying that if it gets too popular. I might not do this again.

About milking, I don't know I will do it again.

Very strange. And there's strong stimulation to feel again, and I tried during the shower. And I realized I can't do it myself...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlackStreetGhost; 1452013]I'm here to post a disgusting experience, look out guys.

Chatted up a working "gal" thru I'm app a couple of days ago, then made an appointment in a hotel. I did my homework: I checked the location on google and decided not to bring too much cash. What a fool I was to think that I'm fully prepared for anything coming. I went to the hotel and they didn't even ask for I'd, so directly went to the room. First impression was ok when I saw the gal, off we went to business. I was not surprised when she asked to dim the lights, it's Vietnam anyway. And after a little BJ she started to ride me. A thought flashed in my head when I started to observe her breast (I love this stuff when I was under). It's just not right! Difficult to explain but her chest is just a little bit muscular for a gal, and the breast is just too small. Then I noticed that she closed her thigh tightly even when riding me. I suddenly realized what might be happening and managed to get my hand between her thigh. WTF! Now I understand what disgust really means when I touched that soft stuff. I ran off like hell and was disgusted until now.

Lesson: Don't fuck working "gal" until you are sure she is a gal.

Finding: A25 is a chain hotel and you can find lots of it all over Hanoi. It must be girl friendly to support such business.[/QUOTE]Instead of running away, you could have flipped it over and treated yourself. Many seasoned mongers are partial to the occasional tranny (as long as it's a proper one who thinks and acts female, not just a bloke dressed up). The etiquette is to pretend you didn't realise, and thought you had just met a tall beautiful woman who loves it in the arse.

Hey guys,

Long time reader first time writer. Just curious to know if anyone knows where I could find some good Japanese snatch?

[QUOTE=CrazyFunGuy;1457316]Hey guys long time reader first time writer. Just curious to know if anyone knows where I could find some good Japanese snatch?[/QUOTE]In Japan, perhaps.

[QUOTE=CrazyFunGuy;1457316]Hey guys long time reader first time writer. Just curious to know if anyone knows where I could find some good Japanese snatch?[/QUOTE]Try japan, in Thailand I heard you can get good Thai snatch as well.

Yeah, Japanese or Korean.

[QUOTE=Ong Tay; 1452743]That's an interesting question! There might be a lot of demand for it, but I'm sure though that most foreigner ladies are teaching English in Hanoi. Because if they are in the massage business, they would make a lot more in their home country. I would love to be proven wrong though!

Unless you mean Chinese, Japanese, Korean, then of course you can find some in Hanoi.

But, I would be very interested in hearing from a local Vietnamese about some good unknown places to go to have some fun. The kind of places where they've never had a foreigner come in before. I like feeling special LOL.[/QUOTE]If you want to look for the better service for the local guys, don't go to any "tam quat" spot (this is in my opinion) because it is low quality service as well as price. For me I go to some place like Osis (over the fortuna lang ha st).

Is there any place that has Japansese or Korean girls? I would love to have any phone number of girls from euro or Japan / Korea travel to Hanoi. I can pay for it higher due my demand for it are very high haha.

[QUOTE=Floyd Dylan;1392399]200 Yen Phu does not exist as far as I can tell. I walked that block twice, once during the day and once at night, and didn't find anything remotely resembling it.[/QUOTE]200 Yen Phu certainly exists, as of my visit there just last week. Was easy to find, as long as you know that Yen Phu is the smaller street that traces along Westlake (and it's not the bigger street above it with lots of massage / karaoke places. On the map, this bigger street might be mistake for Yen Phu). Anyways, there's a big sign advertising the sauna / massage place (also saying "200 Yen Phu" on the sign) on the smaller street and it's a standard massage place, with HJ. I tried for FS but was denied. My first visit to Vietnam, FWIW. I had better luck in Ha Long Bay actually.

The other night, I drove down Nguyen Hoang Ton behind Ciputra looking for a little something and I found that only a few shops were open and none of the girls were outside. In the past, I've seen them all lined up on the side of the road in the open, but tonight it was totally dead. I made my way to PVD and it was abandoned. There were no girls at all and many of the houses had for rent signs on them. Does anyone know what's happening here?

[QUOTE=GionDau;1457806]The other night, I drove down Nguyen Hoang Ton behind Ciputra looking for a little something and I found that only a few shops were open and none of the girls were outside. In the past, I've seen them all lined up on the side of the road in the open, but tonight it was totally dead. I made my way to PVD and it was abandoned. There were no girls at all and many of the houses had for rent signs on them. Does anyone know what's happening here?[/QUOTE]I haven't seen anything in the news, which is unusual given all the high profile HCMC busts that have been printed recently. But this weekend and the one before I went down PVD for my usual early morning session and and as you say all the places where the girls normally sit outside for FS are locked up from the outside. I have a bad feeling that they won't be returning, but no clue what has happened. On both occasions I was able to find a little action on Nguyen Hoang Ton, but there are far less places that look open.

The weekend before last I went to a place on NHT that has no signage outside, coming in from PVD end it is about 200m in and has a long steep ramp into it. Was fortunate to catch one of the girls outside and she saw me slowly cruising and asked if I wanted massage. She was alright looking, early twenties. Good little worker, BBBJ in lots of different positions followed by FS. She charged 500k VND which is a little on the steep side compared to the 200k VND places that are now vacant on PVD.

This weekend I didn't see anyone there, but that could have been just a timing issue. I found the a Tam Quat, massage place a little further in that was open. It was the one with the sign board outside with the picture of the guy in the bath tub. Anyone who's been down that street will know the one I am talking about. Went inside and there were several girls waiting, asked if I wanted massage. They take you downstairs where there are about 8 curtained off beds and she went to business. BBBJ and HJ only it seems here. I really made her work for her money and spent a good 20 minutes getting off. She didn't complain all that much, which considering she charged me 400k VND for the privilege I was glad for. Good looking girl and good service, plenty of mouth action, nicely complimented with hand action.

So it looks like our options have been severely curtailed, but there are still a few options left. Although it seems price is perhaps reflecting the current drought, or maybe they the more expensive places are able to stay in business because they can afford the pay-offs, who knows? Anyway, I will continue to cruise up there when I get the chance on weekends, and hopefully this is just a blip and we will see the girls return for business soon.

So the other night, I finally got a chance to visit Boss club under Fortuna hotel and had a good experience for the first time in Vietnam. The staff in Boss is very friendly, so different from other shitty places in Vietnam. There are two sections in Boss, you can sit and drink with girls in the hall or go to private room for karaoke. There must be more fun in a private room, but I don't believe it's allowed to do anything substantial here. Anyway I chose the lobby, and right after I sit down, mamason led around 10 gals for me to choose. Girls are all pretty and many of them with nice boobs almost coming out. But I definitely want to see more, so asked her to bring more. A gal with nice body and smooth skin caught my eyes (ok, maybe just becuase she wear less than others). Girl's name is Phuong and she speak very little English but who cares, we had fun exchanging English and Vietnamese words through phone, with a lot of touching and teasing of course. I intend to take her for LT but she could only do ST that night, which is fine for me. You need to go upstairs and wait for the girl at 12. O in Boss, I guess there might be some rules that forbid them to leave before 12 or cut a deal inside the hotel (which is funny but this is Vientam).

Sure you can guess the rest but wow, when Phuong took off her clothes and ready to shower with me, I was immediately blown away by her nice boobs. I though it's a B+ but hey, it's actually D according to Asian standard. And different from many working gals, she is not shy or incooperative, though easy to tell that she's just working instead of having fun.

Total damage is 2mil++ for a bottle of tequila (and you can keep if for two months, which in my opinion is much better than 110k++ Carlsberg) , plus some small money for soft drinks and fruits. A gal costs 800k inside and normally 100USD for ST and 150USD for LT. It might also be a custom to tip the waitor 100k and mamason 200k (I guess only when you want to take the gal out). It's a little pricy but I got the best experience ever since I came to Vietnam, I really like their attitude and service. I would definitely go back again to finish my tequila, maybe try out the private room with friends.

You were go to right place! Almost Gal there are from southern of Vietnam, they might not know English but they know how to play or have some fun with you as long as you have money in your pocket.

[QUOTE=BlackStreetGhost; 1458449]So the other night, I finally got a chance to visit Boss club under Fortuna hotel and had a good experience for the first time in Vietnam. The staff in Boss is very friendly, so different from other shitty places in Vietnam. There are two sections in Boss, you can sit and drink with girls in the hall or go to private room for karaoke. There must be more fun in a private room, but I don't believe it's allowed to do anything substantial here. Anyway I chose the lobby, and right after I sit down, mamason led around 10 gals for me to choose. Girls are all pretty and many of them with nice boobs almost coming out. But I definitely want to see more, so asked her to bring more. A gal with nice body and smooth skin caught my eyes (ok, maybe just becuase she wear less than others). Girl's name is Phuong and she speak very little English but who cares, we had fun exchanging English and Vietnamese words through phone, with a lot of touching and teasing of course. I intend to take her for LT but she could only do ST that night, which is fine for me. You need to go upstairs and wait for the girl at 12....[/QUOTE]

I kind of knew going into this that it was going to be a rip-off, but I wanted to give it a shot. I'm a fan of VIP massages and I make decent money working with my company, so I figured I would try it out and report back.

So the Fortuna Spa. It has a fancier name I think but I forget what it is. It's at the Fortuna Hotel on Lang Ha street. The hotel is more famous for its nightclub, and after attending the spa, I can say rightfully so.

The VIP package for 90 minutes is 1.8m dong. Kind of crazy expensive. I mean, the spa is really really nice, very well appointed, clean, professional, and everything, but 1.8 is three times the price of even the most expensive VIP spas in Hanoi, I think. And in the end, the services aren't worth that much more. For example, Oasis, across the street, is maybe 550k for 90 minutes in the VIP room, with a 500k tip if you're being really generous. You still haven't even covered your entry ticket at the Fortuna for that price.

Anyway, this isn't an Oasis review, so back to Fortuna. My girl was very cute and nice, and the massage was excellent. We chatted (in Vietnamese, I don't think she can speak English) for a long time, and the whole experience was very relaxing. At the end of the massage, she wanted 1m for an HJ. Which we all know is just out of the park expensive. She said it was because girls in other spas would have 2-3 customers a day, but she was lucky if she had even one. And while I can sympathize with that a little bit, it still doesn't take away the sting of feeling really taken for a ride. I didn't even ask about other services because it didn't really even feel like they were on offer.

I definitely wouldn't return, but I don't think the spa is really targeting a local crowd. With those prices, I think they just bank on international travelers and businessmen. Though I think I was the only person there on the afternoon I went, so it can't be too busy.

Final points: cute girl, very clean VIP rooms, very high-end feel to the whole place, but you pay for it. Service negotiation was tiring, and I'm too old to deal with that, but I don't really blame the girl in this instance. I wouldn't return or recommend, even though I had a great massage, it's just too expensive. Oasis, Kingston, Zeus, and Sakura are all better VIP spas for a fraction of the price.

Hope this helps you guys!

I forgot to mention below, I ended up at the Fortuna Spa (with a much lighter wallet) because I initially drove out to that neighborhood to look for Geisha Massage, which was mentioned a few posts back by another user. I looked everywhere on Tran Thai Tong street, but couldn't find where he was talking about. Does anyone have any other directions to this spa? I tried to look online, but only found a Geisha Massage on Tran Duy Hung street-though I also had trouble finding that one as well.

If anyone has any directions to the spa-or knows if it is supposed to be on Tran Thai Tong or Tran Duy Hung streets-please help out. I'm not very familiar with that neighborhood, so probably I was just really lost and it was right under my nose!

Tam quats offer you the best and worst of Hanoi P 2 P. Most are dirty unfriendly places where young not nice girls suck you off lying on a bed and spend most of the time rubbing you with wet wipes and spitting noisily into a basin or tissue. Also some are genuine massage places for poor people do you get nothing. But, they are unregulated and unpredictable and often have girls for a very short time, which means anything can happen in there, and occasionally you have an amazing erotic encounter. Here are my top stories:

1. A small one room place on Thuy Khue. A straggled haired tired but kind of cute woman closed the door and pointed to a narrow bed. I dropped my trousers and sat down. She stood in front of me and raised her t shirt to reveal a perfect pair of medium breasts with bullet nipples. I sucked on them while she wanked me off slowly and carefully. Next time she stopped in the middle and fetched a condom. She sat on my lap facing me and rode me. Next time she lay back and lifted her dress. No panties. I fucked her standing up. Me in business suit with trousers round knees. It was great! Next time I went she was gone and the place is a cafe now.

2. 26 Doc Ngu. I was a regular and had them all there at least once. My current regular GF was there for 2 years and we did everything there behind the curtain until I insisted on a hotel, which the mamasan objected to. Madam Mai is the classic working girl with a heart of gold, and I think she is there, so if you want day time quick sex, just gi and ask for her. She even speaks some English.

3. In a really scummy place on the road next Ciputra there was a young mother. We looked at each other, clicked and started kissing. I dropped to my knees pulled her panties aside and kissed her pussy. She lay back, legs over my shoulders and I livked. She loved it, she was gasping and bucking and came gloriously. She was red faced and embarrassed when I left (after quick BJ) and the other girls gave a me a weird look as I walked out.

4. 381 Kim Ma. Phuong. Best BJ in Hanoi and she does AR like nobody else, as if she likes it (tongue right in). And if you like spanking, she can take it without flinching until your hand hurts. And she doesn't mind who hears! You should tip well, mind. 1 million for the works.

I've got more stories, but you get the idea. Just try a few and tell.

Them what you want. Most don't care what you want, but you can strike hold.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=BlackStreetGhost; 1454094]As I pass by a small alley one day, I saw a lot of Tam Quat shops. There must be game because inside each shop sits several girls with clothers barely cover their breasts and a gang-like young man sits outside. I didn't have the chance to find out that night because I was escorting customers to their homes. Anybody in the forum knows what the routine is in Tam Quat places?

After checking on Google, I think the name of that alley should be Dinh Cong Ha. Anybody interested can give it a shot, I'm kinda busy recently but I will post follow up reports after checking it out.[/QUOTE]

So I went for a ride down PVD again and for the third straight week all the places there were locked up from the outside and now some of them have signs on. Can't read what the signs say but guess it's something like "for rent". So I'm sad to say it really looks like the girls won't be coming back, and there are now only one maybe two places open on NHT.

Gutted as PVD was the ideal place for a quick, cheap, guaranteed fuck. Really not sure if there is anywhere else like that where there is a street full of girls ready and waiting for you at all times of the day and night. I especially liked that they were around from early morning on the weekends. Tam Quats can be so hit and miss in terms of service and price and even if you do find a girl that will fuck, she normally makes a big song and dance about it, jacks up the price and makes you be really really quiet because you are just hiding behind a curtain.

If anyone does know where these girls have gone or knows of anywhere similar to PVD I'd love to hear about it. In the mean time I guess I'll go off into pastures knew and try some of the more out of the way Tam Quats that I've seen on my travels but haven't seen mentioned on here before. Reports to follow I'm sure.

[QUOTE=Dragonball999; 1314029]Hi Knight,

Do you know the exact location in Bac Ninh. I always go there for supplier visit but never know of any massage area. I asked driver he also don't know.[/QUOTE]Go to Tu Son hotel in Tu Son before Bac Ninh city. Has a massage out the back 120 VND entrance fee and 100-200 tip for HJ / BJ. You can arrange to have the girl visit you at the hotel for FS at around 25 USD. There are many places here.

[QUOTE=Paperman; 1460212]I kind of knew going into this that it was going to be a rip-off, but I wanted to give it a shot. I'm a fan of VIP massages and I make decent money working with my company, so I figured I would try it out and report back.

So the Fortuna Spa. It has a fancier name I think but I forget what it is. It's at the Fortuna Hotel on Lang Ha street. The hotel is more famous for its nightclub, and after attending the spa, I can say rightfully so.

The VIP package for 90 minutes is 1. 8m dong. Kind of crazy expensive. I mean, the spa is really really nice, very well appointed, clean, professional, and everything, but 1. 8 is three times the price of even the most expensive VIP spas in Hanoi, I think. And in the end, the services aren't worth that much more. For example, Oasis, across the street, is maybe 550k for 90 minutes in the VIP room, with a 500k tip if you're being really generous...[/QUOTE]I had the exact same experience as you a few years back at the Fortune Spa, which I didn't want to go to but was dragged there by my client who was staying at the Fortuna and too lazy to go out. Way overpriced with nothing special to speak of, and the massage wasn't even good. The girl spent over 20 min trying to sweet-talk me into a HJ for 1M but I wouldn't budge. The session ended about 75 min in. Never been back there since.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins; 1460599]So I went for a ride down PVD again and for the third straight week all the places there were locked up from the outside and now some of them have signs on. Can't read what the signs say but guess it's something like "for rent". So I'm sad to say it really looks like the girls won't be coming back, and there are now only one maybe two places open on NHT.

If anyone does know where these girls have gone or knows of anywhere similar to PVD I'd love to hear about it. In the mean time I guess I'll go off into pastures knew and try some of the more out of the way Tam Quats that I've seen on my travels but haven't seen mentioned on here before. Reports to follow I'm sure.[/QUOTE]There were a WG gunned down by a gangster a month or two back. Follow by a few crack down by local police so they must have decided to close and move further away from this area.

I remember about 3-4 years ago, Duong Buoi from Cau Giay intersection was full of them. But as the city grow bigger, these girls moving away from the center.

I guess you will have to go a bit further down to find some new venue.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins; 1460599]So I went for a ride down PVD again and for the third straight week all the places there were locked up from the outside and now some of them have signs on. Can't read what the signs say but guess it's something like "for rent". So I'm sad to say it really looks like the girls won't be coming back, and there are now only one maybe two places open on NHT.

Gutted as PVD was the ideal place for a quick, cheap, guaranteed fuck. Really not sure if there is anywhere else like that where there is a street full of girls ready and waiting for you at all times of the day and night. I especially liked that they were around from early morning on the weekends. Tam Quats can be so hit and miss in terms of service and price and even if you do find a girl that will fuck, she normally makes a big song and dance about it, jacks up the price and makes you be really really quiet because you are just hiding behind a curtain.

If anyone does know where these girls have gone or knows of anywhere similar to PVD I'd love to hear about it. In the mean time I guess I'll go off into pastures knew and try some of the more out of the way Tam Quats that I've seen on my travels but haven't seen mentioned on here before. Reports to follow I'm sure.[/QUOTE]Plenty of action on Lieu Giai street. Just down from Kim Ma across from the Japanese Embassy. Most nights (after 9pm) there at least 6 girls out, some on bikes and some just strolling. You will see them at and near the bus stop an sometimes right out front of the embassy. Plenty of ST Ngha Nghi's are available in the back streets. Usual price is 300 vnd for the FS plus 100 for the hotel. Quality is mixed but most would be described as veterans! Some grab a granny opportunities too for those inclined. The younger ones are pimped up and I tend to stay away from that party. Recently I have noticed teams of young cops in the area but they usually only stay for a few minutes before getting back into there mini bus and heading off to the next 'crime' hotspot. The girls are used to drunken salary men so be careful of your wallets and phones. Most of my experiences there have been fine but I had one who persistently frisked me before, during and after the deed!

Went for a body massage at hotel Fortuna. The place was nice, clean, pleasant, brightly lit. It was highly recommended and I was taken there personally by a young government VIP, no less. He was recently married to a beautiful and accomplished woman, offspring of a hard-core proletariat, revolutionary family. The guy is a very accommodating friend, but he's not the one who can risk fucking around on his wife as Hanoi is still full of secret police's eyes and ears, especially anywhere foreigners hang out.

The massage was done by a tiny young girl in a cubicle separated from dozen others by glass partitions, where everybody sees each other, while the boss was roaming around watching every girl. Needless to say no hanky panky was at all possible.

The tiny girl was not even attractive. She was wearing jean and a loose blouse. She had no tits and no ass that I could see. I could not grope to verify her assets like usual, as the massage room was public, brightly lit and wide open to everyone. Besides I had to save face for my host, acting like I am a caring and respectable friend of the country, not a sex pervert, going to Vietnam to screw every sweet, woman I could get my hands on, which was my original plan nonetheless.

The girl worked hard at the massage. She was driving her tiny fingers, which were hard as steel, into the joints in my spinal column, delivering a lot of pain. I don't subscribe to all the bullshit about the benefits the massage do the the joint, but went in hoping to fuck some attractive, sexy woman, ended up being tortured by a tiny sexless VC. Damn. I was pissed off for wasting the time that I could spend poking some sweet woman. Well, one form of massage is clearly beneficial in many ways: my dick massaging her tight, wet, swollen pussy. I believe in that kinds of massage, hehe.

I felt pretty bad, remembering Sen. John McCain's memoirs how he had his joints twisted and broken everyday in the infamous Hanoi Hilton by the comrades just for fun.

The sex scene in Hanoi is very frustrating. The comrades figure out how to work against, not with, the basic human instincts in every goddamned possible ways. That's why the country is so backward and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor and the people are so corrupt and unhappy. There are no happiness and pleasures among the people, just a lot of tensions, manipulations, cheating and abuses by everyone everywhere you go.

Vietnam is just a big goddamned waste of time for foreigners to visit. But I do know for facts, that the people with power and / or money are fucking women in their wild orgies routinely held for the privileged class. So don't let the comrades fool you with their outward austerity.

All this government's oppression and abuses of power by almost every government officials, from the central government down to the lowly traffic cops, alienate the people big time. Sex, abortions are driven underground in filthy back alley hotels and abortion clinics.

Vietnam is pretty much down in the bottom of my list of nice, relaxing, interesting places to visit in Asia, probably just above Myanmar with the recent horrible violence between Buddhists and Muslims.

[QUOTE=JohnAppleseed;1461587]I had the exact same experience as you a few years back at the Fortune Spa, which I didn't want to go to but was dragged there by my client who was staying at the Fortuna and too lazy to go out. Way overpriced with nothing special to speak of, and the massage wasn't even good. The girl spent over 20 min trying to sweet-talk me into a HJ for 1M but I wouldn't budge. The session ended about 75 min in. Never been back there since.[/QUOTE]

I am really thinking this is the worst possible place in the world for a monger. I have check back post and can not find anything here. Anyone have any tips for Hanoi?

To those who've been having a rough time, and getting culture shocked along the way, here's a roadmap to a nice time.

Go to 299 Cau Giay. I think it's called Royal Rose VIP Massage. (on Kim Ma street keep going west over the big junction, where the street name changes to Cau Giay. It's further on, on the right behind a Vietcom Bank.

Ask for miss Nga and choose the basic service. She will greet you and point to the shower and sauna. When you've finished, she'll dry you and you lie down for naked massage, including hot stones on back. She'll do her very best to please you, with her hands. All done nicely and unhurriedly with no mention of money. If you ask nicely she'll unzip her uniform for you too. Afterwards, tip her 500 and get her phone number. Then text her and invite her for a coffee (ca phe?) or to a restaurant (nha hang). Thst's the tricky part. Arranging time and day by text in Vietnamese (use google translate). When you do meet, be nice to her as if you're on a date, and then say "hotel?". If she says yes, you could take her to Hotel New Sun at 67 be Van Cao. 200, 000 VND for 2 hours and quite clean with no hassle. Don't ask her how much as she isn't a pro. But you should still pay her a million or so. Once in the room she'll get right down to it. She's not much into foreplay (she gets groped enough at work) but likes a long slow pounding, mish and doggy.

On your way out, check out Miss Phuong on the front desk. I have an idea she's envious of the girls who come in for an hour, have a raunchy time and get paid more than her.

Enjoy! I ask just one thing. A full report.

Somebody mentioned that they couldn't find the Geisha Massage I reported about. Checking the business card and google maps, it is at #8 on Ngo 2, off of Tran Thai Tong, halfway between Xan Thuy / Cau Giay and Duy Tan. The newer one that just opened is at 92 Nguy Nhu Kon Tum, more down south a bit near Big C, which is the one I went to. Sorry about the confusion!

There have been a few bad reports about the Fortuna Spa. Which I can mostly agree with, it's expensive and the girls are used to getting big tips for just a HJ. But the upside is that you can ask to see "the menu" where you can pick the girl you want from the photos. And they have like 100 girls to choose from! Also if you have a hotel room there, you can call up to the spa and ask them to bring a girl down to your room for a private massage <wink wink . If you're traveling alone, it's more than worth it to book a room at the Fortuna for fun at all hours of the day and night without any hassles. In any case, I've tried it a few times and moved on.

Thanks for the tip about WeChat, there is a great abundance of girls on there looking for a quickie with a foreigner, oops I mean "practice English." Honestly my weeks are full now with my free, enthusiastic regulars. Just be honest with them and cut them loose early. As one of my friends once said,"getting you is like winning the lottery for them, and they will do and say anything to get it".

[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1463156]The sex scene in Hanoi is very frustrating. The comrades figure out how to work against, not with, the basic human instincts in every goddamned possible ways. That's why the country is so backward and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor and the people are so corrupt and unhappy. There are no happiness and pleasures among the people, just a lot of tensions, manipulations, cheating and abuses by everyone everywhere you go.

Vitnam is just a big goddamned waste of time for foreigners to visit. But I do know for facts, that the people with power and / or money are fucking very young girls in their wild orgies routinely held for the privileged class. So don't let the comrades fool you with their outward austerity.

All this government's oppression and abuses of power by almost every government officials, from the central government down to the lowly traffic cops, alienate the people big time. Sex, abortions are driven underground in filthy back alley hotels and abortion clinics.[/QUOTE]Wow, sorry you feel this way. While it's true that Vietnam can never rival Thailand as a sex destination, your view of the country as a whole is rather misguided. Yes there's oppression here but the ordinary people are actually rather happy, compared to citizens of many other Asian countries. I can see why you would think that way if you only spend time in the big cities roaming for sex, but if you actually take some time to travel the country like I did, you may find that Vietnam is actually a very beautiful place with nice and friendly people everywhere, especially in the more rural areas. Don't let your negative experiences with the rich and powerful cause you to paint the entire country with a broad brush.

Well, I managed to find this place. Finally. It is actually on my way to work, and I just figured out it is on a small side street off the main road. Not too far from Cau Giay street. Basically, off of Cau Giay street, onto Tran Thai Tong, it will be on a small street on your left. I forget which one exactly, but it is there, not so far away. The building has a sign but I didn't see it the first time I looked.

My experience was mixed. I was excited to find another good VIP massage close to my work, but my service was only so-so. Maybe it was my fault though, as I went in and wasn't really in the mood for it, so maybe I should have waited another day or two. My girl was very mediocre looking, which was a big turn off at the start. Maybe I should have tipped the front guy, or told him what I liked, but I didn't, and then my girl was very nice and chatty, and I just didn't have the heart to send her away. Not their fault, so I'm certainly not giving them a bad mark for my personal preferences.

The rest of the massage was good. I took a two-hour VIP package. Salt scrub, sauna, bath, massage, all as usual. All pretty good. I wasn't in the least bit worked up, so when it came time to ask about the ending, I told the girl I wasn't interested and tipped her 300k for her time. I thought it was a good tip for no "extras", but she seemed upset about it. Or she was just trying to get a few more bucks, which is fine, but considering some people pay 300k for "extras", I thought I was being pretty damn generous.

Final thoughts? I definitely want to check it out again when I'm more in the mood. I think it has potential. The place was pretty nice. I hate tipping the front desk guys, but maybe I'll feel it out to see if I get a better-looking gal next time. Otherwise, I'll probably not return if the second time is also a waste. Which is a shame because of the convenience. Anyone else have experiences here? Good or bad?

[QUOTE=Kodanana; 1462049]There were a WG gunned down by a gangster a month or two back. Follow by a few crack down by local police so they must have decided to close and move further away from this area.

I remember about 3-4 years ago, Duong Buoi from Cau Giay intersection was full of them. But as the city grow bigger, these girls moving away from the center.

I guess you will have to go a bit further down to find some new venue.[/QUOTE]The question is where did they go? Where is a good place to find some fun?. Anyone found there new place?

i believe in immersing myself in the local lifestyles of every country that i visit. i want to find out how average local folks manage to have their funs, pleasures (!) , motivations, love, hope, happiness, sorrows, frustration, anger, hatred etc.

i don't believe in traveling to exotic locations to hang around the pool of 5-start resorts, getting drunk and talking bullshit with a bunch of bloated, stupid, ignorant tourists.

i had opportunities to travel up and down vietnam a few times, using various transportation means. so i really had good chances to mix with all kinds of people. it's a big challenge, but my work is in markets research. with limited time and resources in country, i would try my best to immerse myself in the local lifestyles, trying to figure out what they want, hate, hope for, what make them tick.

of course true intimate relationships are the hardest thing to get being foreigners who only stay in country for a short time. how do you quickly sell some women, pretty girls that they should trust you with their lives and give their wet crotches to you freely and wildly? i did have offers for romantic relationships from a few women. they wanted me to set them up in a little business in exchange for sexual relationships. i would not go that far.

it seems the comrades are preoccupied controlling and regulating sex between people, and they left lots of other activities unattended and fallen to pot, like the economy, education, health care, science and technology, defense, agriculture, industry etc. vietnam has fallen far behind other backward neighbors, like thailand, malaysia, the phil, even cambodia.

despite a lot of technical people educated by various countries in the soviet block, their government's organization, both central and local, are really fucked up village-level guerrilla committees with lots of corruption and graft by everyone, but noone takes any responsibility. the comrades have rejected to adopt any new principles of management science and prefer their traditional village committees in all their activities.

every one tries to steal from the country, yet responsibilities are spread out to everyone, so nobody gets blamed when things get screwed up. looks like the comrades, at all levels, just gang together to loot the country, fuck all pretty women, ban all forms of sex for foreigners and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and torture anyone with potentials for resistance.

i know my honest assessments are worth shit to the comrades.

[quote=johnappleseed;1464709]wow, sorry you feel this way. while it's true that vietnam can never rival thailand as a sex destination, your view of the country as a whole is rather misguided. yes there's oppression here but the ordinary people are actually rather happy, compared to citizens of many other asian countries. i can see why you would think that way if you only spend time in the big cities roaming for sex, but if you actually take some time to travel the country like i did, you may find that vietnam is actually a very beautiful place with nice and friendly people everywhere, especially in the more rural areas. don't let your negative experiences with the rich and powerful cause you to paint the entire country with a broad brush.[/quote]

I seriously suggest the moderator delete Lukeskywalkers last post as it is overly critical and politically sensitive. Those who live here know that currently there is a nationalwide crackdown on vice related activities, further there is current debate making it illegal to forward politically sensitive material on facebook, and it has been a long established fact that the government has and have jail political dissisents who have commented on their blogs criticising the governmanet. As such I don't see how his post benefits this community by drawing unwanted attention, with both types of activities.

Further his lack of night activities is more due to his inability and or incompetance, for someone who claims to me a immersive traveller and who doesn't need the use of touts or guides etc, he should have immersed himself and asked a mere xe om. That simple 5 sec action would have got him what he sought and saved him the trouble of writing that unhelpful and misleading diatribe.

It was payday, so a coworker convinced me to go with him and check out some new massage places. We went to a side street near Big C that had a string of them. 5 or 6 of them. It doesn't matter exactly where, that's not the point. But we picked the one that looked the nicest and opted for the 90 minute VIP for about 380.000 I think it was. The rooms were ok for a local joint, still better than the Oasis that made me wonder why I kept going there so much hehe.

My massage was excellent, her hands were so smooth and she really did a good job with just the right amount of pressure. Then she simply said 'massage baby? ' and went to work without talking about extra payment. Unfortunately it did seem like work, clinical as we say. But afterwards I was getting dressed and she still didn't seem to expect any tip so I gave her a nice tip anyways because the massage was excellent and I'd go back to her again just for the massage.

My friend reported the exact opposite experience. I believe he said 'the massage was torture, but the dick sucking was great. I got her number and next time I'll just skip the massage! '

The point of this story is that it's not the place that matters, it's the girl and both of your feelings towards each other. It's really like a blind date! Always try new places and new girls for a different experience.

There is more than one Big C, which one is this?

[QUOTE=Ong Tay; 1466823]It was payday, so a coworker convinced me to go with him and check out some new massage places. We went to a side street near Big C that had a string of them. 5 or 6 of them. It doesn't matter exactly where, that's not the point. But we picked the one that looked the nicest and opted for the 90 minute VIP for about 380. 000 I think it was. The rooms were ok for a local joint, still better than the Oasis that made me wonder why I kept going there so much hehe.

My massage was excellent, her hands were so smooth and she really did a good job with just the right amount of pressure. Then she simply said 'massage baby? ' and went to work without talking about extra payment. Unfortunately it did seem like work, clinical as we say. But afterwards I was getting dressed and she still didn't seem to expect any tip so I gave her a nice tip anyways because the massage was excellent and I'd go back to her again just for the massage.

My friend reported the exact opposite experience. I believe he said 'the massage was torture, but the dick sucking was great. I got her number and next time I'll just skip the massage! '

The point of this story is that it's not the place that matters, it's the girl and both of your feelings towards each other. It's really like a blind date! Always try new places and new girls for a different experience.[/QUOTE]

Can anyone recommend a hotel near the airport. That is / may be close to any "relevant facilities"! Searched through several pages and can't find any info on Hanoi hotels.

Thanks

hi guys,

i travel quite a bit, and its always nice to have a warm, sexy girl next to me when i'm all alone in a strange city. you guys pointed me to dia, and the new hanoian, both of which have been good sources of pussy.

on my last trip o hanoi a couple weeks ago, i hooked up with a hot, skinny vietnamese girl who loves sex. we met for a couple drinks at my hotel, and then went back to the room and took a shower. she put on only a robe, and then we talked for awhile on the balcony looking over the lake, while i checked out her firm body peeking out from the loosely tied white robe. we went to bed, where she snuggled up to me and worked my cock to a frenzy before planting her sopping mint flavored pussy on my face in a splendid 69. i slept like a baby, and then we shagged again the next morning before i headed off to work.

here's the best part: she does this for fun, just like most of us. i didn't give her any money, and she didn't want any. she is looking for sex, so i asked her if she wanted me to post her info here, and she agreed. feel free to contact her if you are a white guy in hanoi (sorry, she doesn't mess around with vietnamese guys).

pm me for her skypeid, since i'm not sure the admins would like it if i posted it here.

note: she gets irritated when guys start acting jealous and asking too many questions, so just have fun, treat her lake a lady, and post some tidbits from your experience.

br sharky

sent you a pm.

[quote=sharky skinner; 1470070]hi guys,

i travel quite a bit, and its always nice to have a warm, sexy girl next to me when i'm all alone in a strange city. you guys pointed me to dia, and the new hanoian, both of which have been good sources of pussy.

on my last trip o hanoi a couple weeks ago, i hooked up with a hot, skinny vietnamese girl who loves sex. we met for a couple drinks at my hotel, and then went back to the room and took a shower. she put on only a robe, and then we talked for awhile on the balcony looking over the lake, while i checked out her firm body peeking out from the loosely tied white robe. we went to bed, where she snuggled up to me and worked my cock to a frenzy before planting her sopping mint flavored pussy on my face in a splendid 69. i slept like a baby, and then we shagged again the next morning before i headed off to work.

here's the best part: she does this for fun, just like most of us. i didn't give her any money, and she didn't want any. she is looking for sex, so i asked her if she wanted me to post her info here, and she agreed. feel free to contact her if you are a white guy in hanoi (sorry, she doesn't mess around with vietnamese guys).

pm me for her skypeid, since i'm not sure the admins would like it if i posted it here.

note: she gets irritated when guys start acting jealous and asking too many questions, so just have fun, treat her lake a lady, and post some tidbits from your experience.

br sharky[/quote]

At Fritobugger "Which Big C" you ask? The big one. (Sieu Thi Big C) But come on, you can't find any massage places in Hanoi? That's like saying you can't find vodka in Russia.

Today my buddy and I went off in search of a new place. Just went in a random direction and see what we could find (of course, driving motorbikes makes this easy!) We saw a bunch of big signs on the road near the My Dinh bus station, so we stopped at a random place that looked ok from the outside.

O2 Club. #1, Ngo 54, Duong Pham Hung. Going from the bus station towards the Garden / Big C, it's right off the road on the right side. 400k for 90 minute VIP, cheaper options available.

The rooms were showing their age a bit. In this case I think the Oasis was better. But at least here the rooms were very large, lots of open space and a huge tub with room for two people. The girl was. A massage girl. They all look the same now. But she had a southern accent so I couldn't understand her Vietnamese at all. First it was off with the clothes and into the steam room with my feet in a bucket of hot water. Seemed like forever, then she took me to the massage table and rubbed the gritty soap all over. All over. She saw that I was enjoying that so without another word she continued stroking me for quite a long time until I had a happy. Beginning I guess LOL. Then into the bathtub, soap me up, wash my hair, etc etc. Shower and back to the massage table. Her massage skills were really good, a little bit of everything including straddling me to massage my back, using her thighs, walking on my back, etc. Really good job there I must say. I was "up" for another pop, but then left a bit disappointed that it ended without anything further. I got dress and tipped her 500k cause it was good overall and no negotiating.

As for my friend's report?"The massage was right at that borderline between torture and really good." He negotiated 500k first and ended up giving her 600k, so I guess he enjoyed it. We probably won't be back though, better to explore something new!

I'm taking requests if you want me to review any specific spots or check out a different neighborhood. Don't mind taking one for the team! LOL

[quote=sharky skinner; 1470070]hi guys,

i travel quite a bit, and its always nice to have a warm, sexy girl next to me when i'm all alone in a strange city. you guys pointed me to dia, and the new hanoian, both of which have been good sources of pussy.

on my last trip o hanoi a couple weeks ago, i hooked up with a hot, skinny vietnamese girl who loves sex. we met for a couple drinks at my hotel, and then went back to the room and took a shower. she put on only a robe, and then we talked for awhile on the balcony looking over the lake, while i checked out her firm body peeking out from the loosely tied white robe. we went to bed, where she snuggled up to me and worked my cock to a frenzy before planting her sopping mint flavored pussy on my face in a splendid 69. i slept like a baby, and then we shagged again the next morning before i headed off to work.

here's the best part: she does this for fun, just like most of us. i didn't give her any money, and she didn't want any. she is looking for sex, so i asked her if she wanted me to post her info here, and she agreed. feel free to contact her if you are a white guy in hanoi (sorry, she doesn't mess around with vietnamese guys).

pm me for her skypeid, since i'm not sure the admins would like it if i posted it here.

note: she gets irritated when guys start acting jealous and asking too many questions, so just have fun, treat her lake a lady, and post some tidbits from your experience.

br sharky[/quote]bros, mind to pm me the details?

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[quote=sharky skinner; 1470070]hi guys,

i travel quite a bit, and its always nice to have a warm, sexy girl next to me when i'm all alone in a strange city. you guys pointed me to dia, and the new hanoian, both of which have been good sources of pussy.

on my last trip o hanoi a couple weeks ago, i hooked up with a hot, skinny vietnamese girl who loves sex. we met for a couple drinks at my hotel, and then went back to the room and took a shower. she put on only a robe, and then we talked for awhile on the balcony looking over the lake, while i checked out her firm body peeking out from the loosely tied white robe. we went to bed, where she snuggled up to me and worked my cock to a frenzy before planting her sopping mint flavored pussy on my face in a splendid 69. i slept like a baby, and then we shagged again the next morning before i headed off to work.

here's the best part: she does this for fun, just like most of us. i didn't give her any money, and she didn't want any. she is looking for sex, so i asked her if she wanted me to post her info here, and she agreed. feel free to contact her if you are a white guy in hanoi (sorry, she doesn't mess around with vietnamese guys).

pm me for her skypeid, since i'm not sure the admins would like it if i posted it here.

note: she gets irritated when guys start acting jealous and asking too many questions, so just have fun, treat her lake a lady, and post some tidbits from your experience.

br sharky[/quote]hi guys,

the shop is closed. she's got enough friends for now, and asked me to stop passing out her info.

good luck,

sharky

Kingston Land has been raided and shut down. Big red banner denouncing it across the facade. Looks like its been shut for at least a month or two.

[QUOTE=Minus; 1424168]I promised last time I am will post new reports soon, but I was busy. So slowly I try to write all the missing reports about the last one month.

[b]Kingston Land massage[/b]

Address: 32 Truong Han Sieu, Hoan Kiem District.

Not Cheap place, but the service is excellent. 800K VND for the 120 min massage. The girl I got was pretty and kind. (8/10) No English knowledge at all, I had to use my Vietnamese knowledge. When I went in the room I start with sauna when I came out The girl already prepare a herbal bath for me in jacuzzi. Before I jump into the water she asked me how much top I willing to give her. I negotiate 500K after this She washed me in the Jacuzzi and give me a HJ. After I moved to the massage table give me a long massage with lava stone, oil, and many other stuff plus anal play. The massage finished with other HJ. Go back to the Jacuzzi for the final bath, and the final HJ.

I asked for BJ but the price was 1. 5 million VND. Too high price. So I asked only for HJ.

[b]Pro: [/b]

Lots of HJ, professional massage.

[b]Contra: [/b]

The girl dressed all the time she just let you move you hand under her cloth.[/QUOTE]

I would like to provide some feedback from Zeus Spa.

It's in Tay Ho and you can easily find it if you google it.

I went there numerous times and was almost never disappointed. Tried several girls, not all provide the same service. Usually, the better the massage was, the more limited the extras. I got two girls out of 4 who provided BBBJ and also allowed to touch and lick them pretty much everywhere. One even offered that she could ride me if I wanted, but since I didn't have protection, I kindly declined, although I would have really enjoyed it. The location is really nice and relaxed, good standard with jaquzi, shower, comfy massage table, spacy rooms. The girls are quite good looking as well, compared to other massage places. 2 of them were an 8. One a 6. 7 and another one a 7. So, overall quite good. The damage. Entrance: 300VND + 400. 700 tip, depending on quality of service. Good thing, they usually don't negotiate with you. You the negotiation is at the end rather then in between, which is usually a turn off.

New Sakura in Tay Ho. 217 Au Co street.

Has anyone tried this one? What are the prices like, what are the girl like? And what service do they offer as standard?

Would be interesting to hear from someone about his experience. May check it out myself soon. So, will report once I have first hand experience.

[QUOTE=CaseyStar; 1411547]I know there are loads of FLs working in various street locations around the city. What about more upmarket options?

I also know that a couple of ladies advertise on CL. One who is rightly popular, late twenties, medium build and a wild thing in the bedroom. She is amazing and currently advertises something along the lines of Mind Blowing sex. Another is advertising about sucking your cock. She turns out to be a prize starfish others have experienced. When she send you photos, don't be fooled. So not worth it. Shitty attitude and a waste of money. Rumour has it there is a pseudo-escort business being run as well. VND800k for the girl's time then up to you to negotiate for what you really want. Run by a couple that also do phone repairs and the like. Yet to try it but worth investigating. Anyone have experience with this lot?

Anything else? Variety is the spice of life. There must, surely, be other FLs of high quality in this fair city. I'm prepared to spend several million for an upmarket experience from time to time. Appreciate any info.[/QUOTE]I've managed to pick up some really classy babes on Vietnam Cupid which is free to join- just search for girls in your location.

[QUOTE=RonnieMonger;1474008]Kingston Land has been raided and shut down. Big red banner denouncing it across the facade. Looks like its been shut for at least a month or two.[/QUOTE]I'm not surprised, they went too far in the last 3 month. First they started with a new service "4 hand massage". Actually it was very cool, exactly the dual BJ part.

And the last time I was there, the guy ask me if I want the girl can be full naked but it's double price. I said okay. And yes I had a massage with a nude girl, she jump into the bathtub with me, and finished with FS on the massage table.

So I think it was way to much for the police.

[QUOTE=CoolMachine;1475861]I've managed to pick up some really classy babes on Vietnam Cupid which is free to join- just search for girls in your location.[/QUOTE]Thanks, any restrictions for bringing girls to hotels at Hanoi?

I had problems at Mekong area so thinking to try the north.

[QUOTE=The Wolverine; 1478974]Thanks, any restrictions for bringing girls to hotels at Hanoi?

I had problems at Mekong area so thinking to try the north.[/QUOTE]Generally, yes, but are exceptions.

Hi,

I've been playing in many countries before but never in Hanoi. Now's the first time there, just for a couple of days, so I was wondering if some kind soul could give some ideas about where to find some action around Pullman Hotel where I'll be staying.

C

[QUOTE=CoolMachine;1475861]I've managed to pick up some really classy babes on Vietnam Cupid which is free to join- just search for girls in your location.[/QUOTE]Free to join, but you need to pay for messages, no?

[QUOTE=Pita123;1481914]Free to join, but you need to pay for messages, no?[/QUOTE]True! But some girls have their YM or Facebook or email somewhere hidden in their profile on vncupid. Maybe CoolMachine was referring to that. And I agree that there are many classy girls on that side.

[QUOTE=Nullnull;1482508]True! But some girls have their YM or Facebook or email somewhere hidden in their profile on vncupid. Maybe CoolMachine was referring to that. And I agree that there are many classy girls on that side.[/QUOTE]Not finding any, unfortunately. Arriving tonight, RTFF. Not finding much.

I was over in Hanoi a couple of weeks ago. One evening I decided to check out Queen Massage. 27C, Qui see Giám. If you go to the Temple of Literature there is a big sign advertising massage. 150 meters.

They had a four hand. 90 minute massage, spa for 500K. I figured what the heck. Last night, why not. They started me with a steam sauna, then a soak in a tub where one of the lovely ladies (ages 23 and 25) climbed in and scrubbed me down. Unfortunately she remained clothed.

The massage itself was very nice. They allowed some hand wandering, but not too much. I gave them $20 US each tip for the nice massage and the "baby massage" they gave me. No luck getting their dresses off, but I did leave happy.

[QUOTE=Pita123;1485973]Not finding any, unfortunately. Arriving tonight, RTFF. Not finding much.[/QUOTE]Post your screen name in your profile and you will have a bunch of girls contacting you. You have to be clever and hide it from the automated screeners. Let us know how the action is in Hanoi.

Good Luck!

If you're just here for a few days then I would suggest the basement club of the Fortuna hotel, which opens daily at 6pm. A little bit on the pricey side for FS, but no hassles there and the lineup of girls is definitely an experience not to be missed! You can read more about it from the reviews in this thread.

[QUOTE=Pita123;1485973]Not finding any, unfortunately. Arriving tonight, RTFF. Not finding much.[/QUOTE]It's a pity. Didn't you find them despite you upgraded to paid membership? I found some really nice cuties on VNcupid, most of them the pretty college girl next door type. But I didn't browse much for Hanoi region. I guess Saigon is the more open minded liberal city so there must be more girls interested in a relationship with a westerner there. Good luck anyway!

[QUOTE=Ong Tay;1486454]If you're just here for a few days then I would suggest the basement club of the Fortuna hotel, which opens daily at 6pm. A little bit on the pricey side for FS, but no hassles there and the lineup of girls is definitely an experience not to be missed! You can read more about it from the reviews in this thread.[/QUOTE]So what's the damage here now? I heard it's $200 per 2 hours including a room at the hotel. Was that correct?

Nothing this time due to lack of time. Made some good Badoo and Skout contacts for next time.

I did pay for the membership as after reviewing the potential I thought a couple of dollars investment was worth it.

Once you make contact you can very quickly get set up with a date.

I've got two regulars now who's bf's are busy making money for them in Europe will I look after the business here. Win win win.

I don't see much info posted about the Hanoi Hotel, so my friend and I decided to give it a try. It's always best to go with a friend so you can compare notes afterwards! LOL.

We had dinner in the little restaurant next to the lobby. A lot of dishes on the menu and the food was quite good. I heard that at closing time you should sit in the restaurant because all the bar girls will come through there when they get off work. Anyways, we finished dinner and went to the bar on the 2nd floor around 10pm. There was a big sign advertising all you can drink plus a free hostess girl for 1million dong, but we were pretty drunk already so it probably wasn't a good deal. As for the bar itself, the main area is quite small, mostly older Japanese and Korean guys. They also have private karaoke rooms. But when you sit at the oval shaped bar you get a real treat as pole dancers come out every 15 minutes or so. Some of the dancers were pretty hot in their leather bikinis and fishnet stockings.

Not too long after you sit at the bar you'll get asked if you want a girl to join you for $35. The selection of girls wasn't that great, compared to the Fortuna. Maybe they weren't wearing nice dresses, or maybe it wasn't so dark so you could actually see them! . But the company was pretty good and I enjoyed it. The girl said they have 100 girls working at that bar. They even have a few electronic dart boards to play next to the bar. But perhaps the best part is that they actually have a good selection of beer, not just the sewer water called Carlsberg like the Fortuna. I was delighted to drink a Corona!

When it came time to have some private time with the girls, we were told that it was $100 for a short time and $35 for the hotel. But the Hanoi Hotel was full, so we had to go to a smaller nha nghi down the street, which was a total rip off for $35, it should have been more like $10. My girl had some amazing breasts and we started with a really great 69, but a few minutes into sex she was moaning and whining like a fake porn star and saying "finish! Finish!" A little bit disappointing to be rushed like that. As for my friend, he reported that his girl went into the bathroom to remove her makeup and came out really ugly looking heheh. And also with the fake moaning and rushing with the exact same phrase "finish, finish!" They must be trained to do that! Somebody tell them to stop it if they want repeat customers!

Overall, I would return for the beer selection and bar entertainment, but probably skip any extras with the girls! .

At WebWerewolf. Last time I was at the Fortuna I think it was about the same: $100 for short time (it's even printed on the menu!) and $40 for the hotel room I think. Plus pay for the girl to sit with you. Plus pay for overpriced drinks.

Checked her pics on vc so made contact within 3 messages we agreed to meet for coffee- once there she spoke good English and became very flirty- she told me many guys she met from vc where not like there profile but said I matched mine- she also said a lot of guys she met failed when it came to doing the business and used that as an excuse to discreetly feel my stiffy which was rock thanks to the conversation, she also did say some of the local guys didn't have the size and that's why she preferred Europeans- but this time I was ready to explode.

I quickly paid and took her back to the Pullman Hotel- no issues entering with lady mid afternoon. We showered then I went down on her and managed to get her moaning but got myself to excited so I quickly mounted her and set up a slow rhythm which again she enjoyed coming yet again so it then really started shafting her and she was really loving it so I couldn't hold any longer and exploded inside her.

She told me me that a lot of the younger guys come to soon and they were not interested in making her come so she said she would be very happy to see me again- so looks like I've got yet another regular.

[QUOTE=Richard Dawkins; 1460599]So I went for a ride down PVD again and for the third straight week all the places there were locked up from the outside and now some of them have signs on. Can't read what the signs say but guess it's something like "for rent". So I'm sad to say it really looks like the girls won't be coming back, and there are now only one maybe two places open on NHT.

Gutted as PVD was the ideal place for a quick, cheap, guaranteed fuck. Really not sure if there is anywhere else like that where there is a street full of girls ready and waiting for you at all times of the day and night. I especially liked that they were around from early morning on the weekends. Tam Quats can be so hit and miss in terms of service and price and even if you do find a girl that will fuck, she normally makes a big song and dance about it, jacks up the price and makes you be really really quiet because you are just hiding behind a curtain.

If anyone does know where these girls have gone or knows of anywhere similar to PVD I'd love to hear about it. In the mean time I guess I'll go off into pastures knew and try some of the more out of the way Tam Quats that I've seen on my travels but haven't seen mentioned on here before. Reports to follow I'm sure.[/QUOTE]Hey!

Just saw the girls on PVD! 6-7 girls waiting for costumers! I think the police rage is over and they are back in business again!

[QUOTE=Ong Tay; 1489654]I don't see much info posted about the Hanoi Hotel, so my friend and I decided to give it a try. It's always best to go with a friend so you can compare notes afterwards! LOL.

We had dinner in the little restaurant next to the lobby. A lot of dishes on the menu and the food was quite good. I heard that at closing time you should sit in the restaurant because all the bar girls will come through there when they get off work. Anyways, we finished dinner and went to the bar on the 2nd floor around 10pm. There was a big sign advertising all you can drink plus a free hostess girl for 1million dong, but we were pretty drunk already so it probably wasn't a good deal. As for the bar itself, the main area is quite small, mostly older Japanese and Korean guys. They also have private karaoke rooms. But when you sit at the oval shaped bar you get a real treat as pole dancers come out every 15 minutes or so. Some of the dancers were pretty hot in their leather bikinis and fishnet stockings.

Not too long after you sit at the bar you'll get asked if you want a girl to join you for $35. The selection of girls wasn't that great, compared to the Fortuna. Maybe they weren't wearing nice dresses, or maybe it wasn't so dark so you could actually see them! . But the company was pretty good and I enjoyed it. The girl said they have 100 girls working at that bar. They even have a few electronic dart boards to play next to the bar. But perhaps the best part is that they actually have a good selection of beer, not just the sewer water called Carlsberg like the Fortuna. I was delighted to drink a Corona!

When it came time to have some private time with the girls, we were told that it was $100 for a short time and $35 for the hotel. But the Hanoi Hotel was full, so we had to go to a smaller nha nghi down the street, which was a total rip off for $35, it should have been more like $10. My girl had some amazing breasts and we started with a really great 69, but a few minutes into sex she was moaning and whining like a fake porn star and saying "finish! Finish!" A little bit disappointing to be rushed like that. As for my friend, he reported that his girl went into the bathroom to remove her makeup and came out really ugly looking heheh. And also with the fake moaning and rushing with the exact same phrase "finish, finish!" They must be trained to do that! Somebody tell them to stop it if they want repeat customers!

Overall, I would return for the beer selection and bar entertainment, but probably skip any extras with the girls! .

At WebWerewolf. Last time I was at the Fortuna I think it was about the same: $100 for short time (it's even printed on the menu!) and $40 for the hotel room I think. Plus pay for the girl to sit with you. Plus pay for overpriced drinks.[/QUOTE]Wow! $35 for a girl to sit next to you, $100 more for a few minutes of poor sex, $35 for a crummy room. How much for the Mexican beer which was your favorite part? Save the $170 and just drink beer!

This is why the P4P scene in VN is dead.

JD

Right now this is my favorite VIP massage in Hanoi. The massage price is 300K-600K (60-90min 6-7 different kind of massage) , I'm the kind of person who go to VIP massage not only for the HJ or BJ. I like the good professional full body massage. In the Zeus Spa the massage service is great! The place include the lobby and the rooms looks fancy and everything really clean. The rooms sizes big! Large bath tube and separated clean shower cabin.

I visited this place 5 times, so here my last two story:

The first:

After I chosen the massage at the reception (jelly bath 500K. 90min) a guy told me to follow him into the elevator, when moved up to the third floor moved me into one room. He asked me what kind of girl I want, or do I have any girl exactly by number or name? I just told him give me somebody sexy, after he answered okay and told me If I don't like the girl just call him and he can replace to other one. A mid 20 girl entered to the room shortly, her name was Linh (7/10 nice long legs, nice ass, with small tits, and average face) she can speak a little bit English.

She start to prepare the bath for me, until that she asked me to sit into the sauna (the shower cabin is also the sauna). Around 10 minutes later she open the sauna door and ask me to move into the bath. When I sit into the water she started to wash me everywhere (include a hair wash) and take a lots of care to clean my dick. When she cleaned my dick it was actually a soft HJ. She moved her head close to me and firs give a little kiss to my face and moved down to kiss me on my neck. She keep this care for a minute (all the bath part take around 15 minutes). I moved to the massage table and she give me a upper body massage. It was awesome! Her hand is small but very strong. Soon she told me to turn around, she started to give me a massage at my legs. And when she arrived close to my dick she just took into her mouth. Not really a BJ yet. She keep doing massage on my legs but sometimes kiss my dick or suck it a bit. When she finished the massage on my legs asked me for "massage baby?" I said yes. And I expect the argue about the price is coming. But she didn't say anything just grab my dick and give me a great BJ. When we done I take a shower, I give her 500K tip, she said thank you and give me a little kiss on my lips. I think how Linh act is very rare in Hanoi. She doing really great service and not cry for more money like many other girl! I'm sure next time I going to ask for her if I visit zeus again!

The other Zeus story:

This time I got a very funny girl her name is Hien, she is short I think maximum 155cm tall. But she have huge tits and a very nice ass! When I was in the bath tub she moved her body on the way to always push her tits into my face. So I just start to touch her everywhere. And after she asked me "bum bum?". Why not? Okay. The price she said 2mill VND. Very quickly she accept a 1,5 million price, after that she run out from the room shout something on Vietnamese. Few second later somebody give her a A4 paper with glue tape on it, and she fixed it on the small door window. She open a small cupboard under the mirror and take a condom. I was still in the bath tub, so she just take of her cloth and come into the water. My dick was already hard. So she put condom on and ride me in the water.

Zeus is my favorite!

[QUOTE=Minus; 1490614]Hey!

Just saw the girls on PVD! 6-7 girls waiting for costumers! I think the police rage is over and they are back in business again![/QUOTE]Exactly where? I went down PVD on Sunday and saw the same places still all locked up.

[QUOTE=CaseyStar;1491887]Exactly where? I went down PVD on Sunday and saw the same places still all locked up.[/QUOTE]Same place like before. But you right, I drive there yesterday afternoon and all locked up. Maybe they just working evening, last time I saw them around 7-8PM.

[QUOTE=Ong Tay;1489654]At WebWerewolf. Last time I was at the Fortuna I think it was about the same: $100 for short time (it's even printed on the menu!) and $40 for the hotel room I think. Plus pay for the girl to sit with you. Plus pay for overpriced drinks.[/QUOTE]Cheers man.

Well that's still not too overpriced. Compared to Moscow, for example.

[QUOTE=CaseyStar;1491887]Exactly where? I went down PVD on Sunday and saw the same places still all locked up.[/QUOTE]Pardon me I am not that "local" so far. What is PVD? Pham Van Dong?

Yes!

Pham van dong is reopen! I saw plenty of girls! But you need to be discreet because of the police!

Have fun!

[QUOTE=Johndao; 1490663]Wow! $35 for a girl to sit next to you, $100 more for a few minutes of poor sex, $35 for a crummy room. How much for the Mexican beer which was your favorite part? Save the $170 and just drink beer!

This is why the P4P scene in VN is dead.

JD[/QUOTE]LOL well, when you put it that way.

A week later we returned to the Hanoi Hotel. Oh god, don't go before 8pm, or you'll just be sitting there waiting for the girls to start work, listening to some really crappy karaoke type music. But then I asked for the same girl, because she was really good last time and I was planning to just tell her to shut up this time. She talked to mamasan and got permission to go to that other nearby hotel again, so I saved a bunch of cash compared to my friend who paid a mamasan tip and more expensive hotel. The sex this time was even better. So yeah, next time I'll just call the girl and skip the bar, opposite from my previous review LOL.

Sometimes you just get tired of the free girls, you know? Like it's too much upkeep work and you get bored of your regulars and can't be bothered to chat up somebody new. I'm getting lazy now.

[QUOTE=Towel;1494100]Yes! Pham van dong is reopen! I saw plenty of girls! But you need to be discreet because of the police! Have fun![/QUOTE]Let's not get too excited here. On a number of trips along PVD, at varying times of day, I've seen one place open at a time. My guess is that they are trying to reopen but it may take a while.

I dunno about you guys, but I become more and convinced there must be a BJ university in Hanoi. There's a university for just about everything else! Pretty much every woman I have met in this city has been a great BJ exponent. Part of it, I think, is enthusiasm. Seems to be a town full of cock-lovers. Not that I'm complaining.

As has been mentioned many times before, there's plenty of gf sex available here if you look for it. Seems to me to be two main places: TNH & Hanoi Massive. Take time, get to know some girls / women and before you know it you'll have more sex than you know what to do with. Keep contact info. I have found that refreshing contact after a few months when things have died down is a great option. Plenty of women who just want sex and no relationship. They want to feel cared for but don't want any attachments. I've found that 25-30 year olds want to explore sex; while 30-40 year olds just want loads of raw sex and are open to pretty much anything. These women will make you feel like a sex king even when you know you're not! Great for the ego.

People who try and tell you that Hanoi is a wasteland just aren't trying hard enough!

However, the hooker range in Hanoi (which all of us feel like sometimes) appears extremely limited. Pretty shitty quality too. Anybody have any fresh leads on good hookers? There's two who regularly advertise on Craigs List. Both of whom are pretty ordinary. There must be others out there. Share some info. By private message is OK if not cool to post publicly.

Happy punting!

I've seen a few places recently starting to push the "4 hands massage". I wasn't sure how everything would work out, so I decided to take one for the team. Okay, honestly I went to two different places, just for proper research purposes!

VIP Ngoi Sao. A6 Nguyen Thi Thap. There is a whole street of massage places here where Nguyen Thi Thap crosses Le Van Luong (check google maps)

The other place I tried was around the corner. Green something something. Who cares.

I believe for two girls 100 minutes it was 600k. In theory you would get twice the massage since two girls are doing it though, so I thought it could be worth it. In actuality, in both places it consisted of the girls chatting amongst themselves for the whole time, which obviously kills the mood. The massage wasn't that good either, and being off the beaten path the girls were not that great looking. They were also a little bit shy when there were two girls in the room, so the good part wasn't even that good, and then they each expected a tip. The room and facilities and equipment were very good though, they even had an interesting 3d painting of a naked girl heheh.

I should point out that the 4 hands massage was in very strong contrast to what I experienced in another country, which was all about the customer and quite awesome! So in Hanoi it was such a letdown. However, I did get one of the girl's phone number for some free extras later, so it wasn't a total loss!

[QUOTE=CaseyStar; 1502163]I dunno about you guys, but I become more and convinced there must be a BJ university in Hanoi. There's a university for just about everything else! Pretty much every woman I have met in this city has been a great BJ exponent. Part of it, I think, is enthusiasm. Seems to be a town full of cock-lovers. Not that I'm complaining.

As has been mentioned many times before, there's plenty of gf sex available here if you look for it. Seems to me to be two main places: TNH & Hanoi Massive. Take time, get to know some girls / women and before you know it you'll have more sex than you know what to do with. Keep contact info. I have found that refreshing contact after a few months when things have died down is a great option. Plenty of women who just want sex and no relationship. They want to feel cared for but don't want any attachments. I've found that 25-30 year olds want to explore sex; while 30-40 year olds just want loads of raw sex and are open to pretty much anything. These women will make you feel like a sex king even when you know you're not! Great for the ego.

People who try and tell you that Hanoi is a wasteland just aren't trying hard enough!

However, the hooker range in Hanoi (which all of us feel like sometimes) appears extremely limited. Pretty shitty quality too. Anybody have any fresh leads on good hookers? There's two who regularly advertise on Craigs List. Both of whom are pretty ordinary. There must be others out there. Share some info. By private message is OK if not cool to post publicly.

Happy punting![/QUOTE]Absolutely agree with this. Just collect phone numbers. You can meet women who you think are right out of your league and then you suddenly realise that if you just invite them for a coffee (always best way to start) and are a little patient, she can be yours. My advice. Go for slightly older, and make your intentions clear early on. Even if she doesn't speak English, take her for coffee, smile at her, exchange numbers and then send a text message in Vietnamese from Google translate, saying you want to kiss her. You need to be generous, and you must make it completely safe for her, meaning no chance of family or friends finding out.

As for the BJ universities, I think some girls learn by working in tam qats. Those places are full of poor young girls fresh from the villages who suck cock in the big city to support families back home. Some get good at it, build up regular clients and then move on. My favourite regular is now a girl about town with elegant clothes, a new motorbike and a job in a hairdresser, but I knew her in her BJ shop days. She still likes it though. One time she was taking a break, just holding my cock, kissing and licking it, her head resting on my stomach, and I asked her "do you like it". She nodded and gave me the sweetest smile before getting back to work. In contrast they hardly ever get good cunnilingus, and I love laying a massage girl down on her own table, parting her legs and then getting down at the Y. If they don't like it I stop, but I've converted at least three to loving it, and I never forget the look of red faced surprised delight on the face of a massage girl who has orgasmed when she was expecting just another drunk bloke to shoot into a wet wipe.

Re payment, unless they're rich, you should pay but in a way that doesn't make her feel like a hoor. Say it's a present, or to pay her rent. This is not just being nice. It means she'll come whenever you call (even after getting married) , but treat you well even though you are both clear it's a transaction.

If you want regular hookers just go to any tam qat and ask for FS. If they say no, try another. I notice that as the country gets richer the BJ shops and brothels are being pushed further out of town and are more hidden. Anyone remember the Emperor barber shop near Vincom Tower, or the days when you could get sucked off against a tree outside 108 hospital.

In contrast they hardly ever get good cunnilingus, and I love laying a massage girl down on her own table, parting her legs and then getting down at the Y. If they don't like it I stop, but I've converted at least three to loving it, and I never forget the look of red faced surprised delight on the face of a massage girl who has orgasmed when she was expecting just another drunk bloke to shoot into a wet wipe.

Have to agree fully. Found some regular girls in Hanoi, none had been eaten out by their husbands. So when I did it they went crazy. Have one regular girl (sorry can't pass contact info) , after I eat her clean smelling hairy pussy, she wants me to put a load of cum in it. So have to oblige her. We had 3 rounds of sex in one morning at her place in Hanoi (home alone) and she said 'cannot believe" seems that hubby was a cum and run kind of guy and a one shot deal.

I use tagged to meet viets, but there are other sites I'm sure. They can be a lot of fun if free hehehe.

GG

I'm new to Hanoi ( I don't speak VN) , where I'll be living for a while, and I have a million questions for you guys. But, just a few (for now).

We'll start here: I recently went with a Vina friend to a few brothels (my 1st in Hanoi) on Tô Ng&7885; see Vâand. Very hot girls. Which must be why each place said they'd charge me. A Westerner. More than 2ce what they were asking from him. For me: 1mil-1. 5mil VND. So with a good tip, that's about $72-$92 US, for an hour. Amazing!

I kept my cash in my pocket. A waste of a taxi ride.

Has anyone else experienced the brothel mark-up? Or was I just in the very wrong place?

Also, I'm staying in the Hang Bai / Hai Ba Trung area, not far from Zone 9. I'm looking for a good hands-on massage & BJ place. Anyone know (safe) places not crazy far from me?

Last: brothels in my area that are better priced in Tay Ho?

Thanks for the guidance, folks.

[QUOTE=Minus;1490933]Zeus is my favorite![/QUOTE]Can you point the way to Zeus? Just a street will do; Google is not my friend tonight. This place sounds awesome. I'm on my way!

[QUOTE=SeeJustice;1505483]Can you point the way to Zeus? Just a street will do; Google is not my friend tonight. This place sounds awesome. I'm on my way![/QUOTE]Drive by Au Co, you won't miss it I am sure.

Or just show the name to the taxi driver (better show, not say, since the local English is not really English, to say nothing about listening comprehension) , and they will get you there. Just make sure you pick the right taxi.

My experiences have been that everything, especially pussies, are for sale for absurd amounts of money in Vitnam. These people in this wretched country are all out to extract every penny possible from foreigners.

The girls in Hanoi are not even healthy or good-looking. They mostly have disproportionate figures, bad skin, foul breath, ugly faces and exploitative / manipulative attitudes. Some of these girls have their hips padded with so much fat, their pear-shaped bottom-heavy body look ridiculous.

I was visiting for some business. My government contacts did set up parties with girls, they were young but not too good-looking. They look sick, abnormal. We had to take the girls to a hotel outside of Hanoi near the Red river dike. The girl I took was tall and the best-looking of the group. She was accommodating but cold and unresponsive like a star fish. Sex with her was mechanical, not sweet, fun or sexy. It was obvious she was just renting out her body.

Most likely only old, dumb, ugly Viet women, who could not get any Viet to fuck them, would give up their pussies for free to foreigners.

I would avoid Vitnam altogether for the purposes of finding female company or sex. The Philippines, China, Hong Kong, Thailand etc all have much larger selections of better-looking young girls with batter attitudes and far more reasonable pricings.

Leave the ugly and bitchy Viet women to the comrades...LOL.

Just comparing ISG photo threads of Vietnam vs Thailand, it's a slam dunk in favor of Vietnam females IMO.

The percentage of hot P4P ladies is higher with Viet ladies in Singapore than what you see with TGs in LOS.

From the relatively few VN women I've been with, their top performers actually bested anything I've had in Siam.

The top performing 3 star hotels in VN also seem to offer way more value than in the land of the Shins.

[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1505584]I would avoid Vitnam altogether for the purposes of finding female company or sex. The Philippines, China, Hong Kong, Thailand etc all have much larger selections of better-looking young girls with batter attitudes and far more reasonable pricings.

Leave the ugly and bitchy Viet women to the comrades. LOL.[/QUOTE]How many times have you visited? Of course, first impression is forever, but seems like you didn't want (or didn't have a chance) to take a better look.

[QUOTE=WebWerewolf;1505866]How many times have you visited? Of course, first impression is forever, but seems like you didn't want (or didn't have a chance) to take a better look.[/QUOTE]Hi man,

Couldn't agree more. Spent many years in the paradise of workers and farmers. P4p with at least 200 ladies, nearly all very inventive and enthusiastic to make me happy and get some happiness for themselves.

In most places I was the only foreigner ever so something very special, making the girls lining up to get their turn. Bad luck this became much more difficult some 10 yrs ago when massage doors got glaswindows, barbers shut down etc.

Visiting Vietnam nowadays you indeed can believe there is nothing. Lucky they do not know what they are leaving out.

A while back I posted about this escort girl I met through TNH. She has asked me to post on here for any Senior Member to PM me for her e-mail address. She is a nice college age girl. Nice body. Good service. Very good English. Drop me a line if you wish to get her e-mail. She has some excellent skills. No anal though.

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1506201]A while back I posted about this escort girl I met through TNH. She has asked me to post on here for any Senior Member to PM me for her e-mail address. She is a nice college age girl. Nice body. Good service. Very good English. Drop me a line if you wish to get her e-mail. She has some excellent skills. No anal though.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Please share her contact number.

Thanks in advance.

Hi,

Please share her email with me.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1506201]A while back I posted about this escort girl I met through TNH. She has asked me to post on here for any Senior Member to PM me for her e-mail address. She is a nice college age girl. Nice body. Good service. Very good English. Drop me a line if you wish to get her e-mail. She has some excellent skills. No anal though.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1506201]A while back I posted about this escort girl I met through TNH. She has asked me to post on here for any Senior Member to PM me for her e-mail address. She is a nice college age girl. Nice body. Good service. Very good English. Drop me a line if you wish to get her e-mail. She has some excellent skills. No anal though.[/QUOTE]How to pm you?

I want her e-mail.

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I posted, she replied.

I found many divorced women in 30s in THN.

She sucked my dick when I bent over.

I tried to teach her milking but not a luck.

But. Sucking dick when I bent over, and she is behind me sucking. Very nice.

I have my regulars in Hanoi but sometimes I want to wander in the city and find some new spots. I didn't find any new spots but in you go to Hoan hoa tham, you'll find many tam quat and nha nghi! I don't know if it's for all those tam quat in that street but today when I went to one of them (didn't have any advertisements as a Tam quat) , FS was available! I don't know where it is exactly in Hoan hoa tham but, I will be back again for sure! She wasn't a 10 but she was very hardworking!

I went to Fortuna again after having avoided it for a few months, and it seems that they now require your passport to take a lady back to your room! Which is pretty ridiculous since you're not sleeping there over night, and I've never had to show a passport for shorttime girls before at Fortuna or many Nha Nghis. Not sure I want the government to know how often I'm doing this LOL.

[QUOTE=Ong Tay;1506982]I went to Fortuna again after having avoided it for a few months, and it seems that they now require your passport to take a lady back to your room! Which is pretty ridiculous since you're not sleeping there over night, and I've never had to show a passport for shorttime girls before at Fortuna or many Nha Nghis. Not sure I want the government to know how often I'm doing this LOL.[/QUOTE]I believe there is nothing to worry about. My view is that they were made "an offer they couldn't refuse" so that in case of some "check" which they are surely aware of in advance they would show that they are not a house of sin but a "serious hotel hosting honoured foreign guests". LOL

[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1505584]My experiences have been that everything, especially pussies, are for sale for absurd amounts of money in Vitnam. These people in this wretched country are all out to extract every penny possible from foreigners.

The girls in Hanoi are not even healthy or good-looking. They mostly have disproportionate figures, bad skin, foul breath, ugly faces and exploitative / manipulative attitudes. Some of these girls have their hips padded with so much fat, their pear-shaped bottom-heavy body look ridiculous.

I was visiting for some business. My government contacts did set up parties with girls, they were young but not too good-looking. They look sick, abnormal. We had to take the girls to a hotel outside of Hanoi near the Red river dike. The girl I took was tall and the best-looking of the group. She was accommodating but cold and unresponsive like a star fish. Sex with her was mechanical, not sweet, fun or sexy. It was obvious she was just renting out her body.

Most likely only old, dumb, ugly Viet women, who could not get any Viet to fuck them, would give up their pussies for free to foreigners.

I would avoid Vitnam altogether for the purposes of finding female company or sex. The Philippines, China, Hong Kong, Thailand etc all have much larger selections of better-looking young girls with batter attitudes and far more reasonable pricings.

Leave the ugly and bitchy Viet women to the comrades. LOL.[/QUOTE]Although I agree about being ripped off in my experience it was taxi drivers and market stall owners that were the problem not girls, a Vietnamese girlfriend from the south used to complain that as soon as soon as they heard her southern accent the price would rise in the market.

I lived and worked in Hanoi for three years and in that time I had more free pussy and great sex than I have experienced anywhere else and only paid on two occasions and that was in the first month.

With the help of THN, Tagged, DIA a sweet smile and a willingness to take a little time nurturing contacts I was amply rewarded. My friends ranged from a sweet student and waitress from a local restaurant, a television reporter, fashion designer, office girls a government official who may have been fifty but she was the best fuck of my life and a number of housewives I even met two after smiling at them on the street and then getting into conversation. The two things in common was they all wanted to fuck with a western man and the married ladies were all convinced that their husbands ended up having sex after drinking on business trips and they wanted part of the action. Ok I would take them out for dinner but often some would want to cook for me.

I am no young stud and was 53 with a few extra pounds when I was living in Hanoi so there is hope for everyone although I must admit that I don't think I would have had as much success if I hadn't had an apartment.

[QUOTE=Riverstar;1507767]I am no young stud and was 53 with a few extra pounds when I was living in Hanoi so there is hope for everyone although I must admit that I don't think I would have had as much success if I hadn't had an apartment.[/QUOTE]What does having an apartment have to do with it?

Why wouldn't a hotel room be just as effective?

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1507848]What does having an apartment have to do with it?

Why wouldn't a hotel room be just as effective?[/QUOTE]I 100% agree with Riverstar. Having your own place makes the world of difference. Many women think that going to a hotel is a bit sleazy, whereas going to my place is cool and sophisticated. Good food, good wine, music etc. Goes a long way.

[QUOTE=CaseyStar;1508078]I 100% agree with Riverstar. Having your own place makes the world of difference. Many women think that going to a hotel is a bit sleazy, whereas going to my place is cool and sophisticated. Good food, good wine, music etc. Goes a long way.[/QUOTE]The ladies I am talking about are not working girls and would shudder at the thought of running the gauntlet of the hotel reception desk accompanied by a western guy also they would worry about being recognised. One must also recognize the Vietnamese character where the party portray Vietnamese ladies as sweet, innocent and totally faithful to their husbands and anything out side this is considered socially deviant. Inviting a lady to you hotel bedroom can only mean one thing and doesn't give her the opportunity to play the sweet and innocent lady which has become ingrained however visiting your apartment does as the are more reasons to visit someones house even though she knows your motive and is happy to visit you.

I did take three of the ladies away for short holidays and found that they were very happy staying in hotels as you check in together as a couple

[QUOTE=WebWerewolf; 1505530]Drive by Au Co, you won't miss it I am sure.

Or just show the name to the taxi driver (better show, not say, since the local English is not really English, to say nothing about listening comprehension) , and they will get you there. Just make sure you pick the right taxi.[/QUOTE]Hi Guys,

First time in Hanoi. May I know where is Zeus Spa? I am staying at the Mecure for tomorrow night before heading to Hai Phong on Tuesday. What time does it closes?

[QUOTE=Riverstar; 1508126]The ladies I am talking about are not working girls and would shudder at the thought of running the gauntlet of the hotel reception desk accompanied by a western guy also they would worry about being recognised. One must also recognize the Vietnamese character where the party portray Vietnamese ladies as sweet, innocent and totally faithful to their husbands and anything out side this is considered socially deviant. Inviting a lady to you hotel bedroom can only mean one thing and doesn't give her the opportunity to play the sweet and innocent lady which has become ingrained however visiting your apartment does as the are more reasons to visit someones house even though she knows your motive and is happy to visit you.

I did take three of the ladies away for short holidays and found that they were very happy staying in hotels as you check in together as a couple[/QUOTE]One way around being at hotel reception with a Western guy would be for your Vietnamese lady to check into the hotel & rent a place there on her own, from about $5 & up. Then she could discretely slip over to your room or suite in the same hotel for the main event.

With hotels being more likely to be full of foreigners & apartment buildings full of local Viet people, I have to wonder if it would be the latter where she'd be more likely to be recogized. Though in a city of over 6 million people, it seems like quite a longshot in either case.

Moreover as you took some ladies out for dinner, it seems they are not that concerned about being seen in public with a foreigner.

Hotels, rather than apartments, are places where business meet ups often occur. If your VN girl wanted to play the game of Ms innocent, she could come to your hotel in the appearance of business attire. Or if you are into girls in uniform, she might come dressed up as a doctor or nurse & pretend she's visiting a patient. You might want to inform reception in advance that you are sick & help is on the way.

If your hotel has a bar or restaurant or MP etc in it or nearby, there is the option of offering to meet her there first before inviting her inside for some horizontal fun. Let her have a bottle or two of wine, first, if she likes, to set her heart at ease.

Though if these ladies are all about their fantasy of having sex with a farang, as you seemed to imply, then getting straight down to pleasure with them shouldn't be a problem, should it? After token "romantic" gestures (peacocking) , I suppose.

Today I heard from my friend that the Sheraton bar has been completely renovated and no working girls can be found anywhere there anymore. Can anyone else confirm? With the passport requirement at Fortuna, cleanup of the Sheraton bar, are we looking at a new crackdown of our favorite activity?

KukuBird1985. Zeus Spa is at 1/431 Au Co, Tay Ho.

How much should one tip at a place like Zeus spa these days ie for just HJ vs BJ etc. What if you just want a normal massage with no extras from a nice girl would 200 vnd suffice? I went there with my vn friend and he was told you just tip 200 but here people are tipping up to 500 for HJ.

Yes, I once went with two Vietnamese and one other foreigner. Both VN guys tipped 200k and both foreigners tipped 500k. Personally, I normally start at 200k and they give a pouty disappointed face, then I give in and up it to 500k and they're really happy and do a good job. Most girls will only do HJ unless they really like you or want you to pay more for BJ. It also depends a lot on the place and how often they check, that determines what the girls are allowed to do. But I'm sure the girls expect foreigners to be rich and can afford to tip more, but it's up to you to negotiate. Also if you go to the same girl a few times she will treat you really good!

If no extras then I think the girl would be surprised at a 200k tip for free heheh.

Did I mention I paid 2 million for just a handjob the first time I went to a spa in Hanoi? LOL. Lucky girl, I was a newb! Thank god for these forums.

[QUOTE=Ong Tay; 1508896]Yes, I once went with two Vietnamese and one other foreigner. Both VN guys tipped 200k and both foreigners tipped 500k. Personally, I normally start at 200k and they give a pouty disappointed face, then I give in and up it to 500k and they're really happy and do a good job. Most girls will only do HJ unless they really like you or want you to pay more for BJ. It also depends a lot on the place and how often they check, that determines what the girls are allowed to do. But I'm sure the girls expect foreigners to be rich and can afford to tip more, but it's up to you to negotiate. Also if you go to the same girl a few times she will treat you really good!

If no extras then I think the girl would be surprised at a 200k tip for free heheh.

Did I mention I paid 2 million for just a handjob the first time I went to a spa in Hanoi? LOL. Lucky girl, I was a newb! Thank god for these forums.[/QUOTE]I have seen it the other way round too: Vietnamese guys throwing their money around in a karaoke joint as if they were at a Roman orgy and spending big bucks, whereas some westerners will bargain down a massage girl until she agrees to toss him off for 100. I never discuss the money, but try to make them understand. Make me happy and I'll make you happy. And I tip accordingly, anything from 50 to millions.

For me there's nothing more annoying than a half hearted hanjob. Better to have a night in with a bottle of wine, youporn and a wet wipe.

Now I'm stuck in Singapore my VCupid girls have been complaining that there are not enough westerners around and bored with the local boys who don't know how to lick, come too quickly and are lacking in girth- looks like I need to get back up sharpish to spread some Christmas joy.

Try Xhamster!

]I have seen it the other way round too: Vietnamese guys throwing their money around in a karaoke joint as if they were at a Roman orgy and spending big bucks, whereas some westerners will bargain down a massage girl until she agrees to toss him off for 100. I never discuss the money, but try to make them understand. Make me happy and I'll make you happy. And I tip accordingly, anything from 50 to millions.

For me there's nothing more annoying than a half hearted hanjob. Better to have a night in with a bottle of wine, youporn and a wet wipe.[/QUOTE]

This is Ding Li formerly of the Beijing thread. In Beijing I found some really good connections with freebies and couples using Craigslist. Unfortunately, here in Hanoi, I have failed miserably despite applying for a number of positions, and placing my own advertisements. Most contacts never reply and the ones who do reply are either gay or weird (and not in a good way).

Nonetheless, I have found a very nice, very lonely married woman using Tagged and have been talking to other ladies. You have to go slowly with the Tagged ladies because they receive lots of inappropriate sexual suggestions so first you must gain their trust. However I do miss the instant sexual gratification from Craigslist contacts.

Hi,

About a month ago there was a fight on Craigslist between a Hanoi lady and her customer. After a week of squabbling the lady finally admitted she was HIV positive and was screwing guys without a condom. Betta be careful!

I've seen many street walkers and girls carried on motos, who have red watery eyes, or spaced out altogether just like rubber dolls.

At night many girls hang out on the street near the main hospital (forgot name) to pick up tricks. They look sick, run down, haggard. Drugs is a big problem with the young unemployed in Hanoi. There must be lots of infected girls.

[QUOTE=Ding Li; 1510903]Hi,

About a month ago there was a fight on Craigslist between a Hanoi lady and her customer. After a week of squabbling the lady finally admitted she was HIV positive and was screwing guys without a condom. Betta be careful![/QUOTE]

Hi Ding Li,

Welcome to Hanoi! Here you can try wechat on your phone, and the websites New Hanoian [url]http://tnhvietnam.xemzi.com/[/url] And Vietnam Cupid [url]http://www.vietnamcupid.com/[/url]

Street walkers are really risky, much better to find a full service "tam quat" at night, the shops with the pink lights.

Vietnam Cupid never fails to deliver quality ladies- personally I go for the 30-50 age group as they tend to know what they want and are financially secure.

Just treat them like the beautiful ladies they are over tea and cakes before delivering the hard ramming that they desire.

MIDLF stands for Mommies I don't Like to Fuck.

This kind of women usually have to pay guys big sums of money for sex, if they can even get it on seeing their bloated, saggy bodies.

[QUOTE=CoolMachine; 1511408]Vietnam Cupid never fails to deliver quality ladies- personally I go for the 30-50 age group as they tend to know what they want and are financially secure.

Just treat them like the beautiful ladies they are over tea and cakes before delivering the hard ramming that they desire.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1511427]MIDLF stands for Mommies I don't Like to Fuck.

This kind of women usually have to pay guys big sums of money for sex, if they can even get it on seeing their bloated, saggy bodies.[/QUOTE]To me they are MILF's- because I did- mind you I have received the odd token of appreciation.

LukeSkywalker, I'm so sick of all the same 27 yr old skinny vietnamese girls that I'd gladly do a bloated saggy body LOL! Ok maybe not, but the pics were MILF to me, variety is the spice of life!

Update at the Hanoi Hotel: they have been renovating the bar area for the past few weeks. So if you go and don't want a karaoke room then you get put way at the back at a small rundown bar. At least it's where all the girls hang out, so you get to see like 30 girls for a better choice. But it's definitely not someplace to go for fun, just pick a girl and get out of there! I tried some threesomes a few times there, well worth 2x the price and if you tell mamasan what you want she'll get you girls that are friends and comfortable with each other. I've had, shall we say, some very enthusiastic threesomes that way, and got some phone numbers that lead to freebies later. But sometimes you just want to pay for it to experience something / someone new.

I also checked out the Zeus Spa for the first time. Hmmm it looked a lot fancier on their website, it was nothing special really. Cost for 90 min was 600k compared to 450k at my favorite place. They do have a membership plan for 50% off if you buy a membership for 1mil though. Anyways, the dude that takes you to you room asked for a tip to pick a nice girl for me. So what the hell, I gave him 200k. And he brought me a real. Ugly girl. LOL. But she was really fun, had big firm breasts that she was so proud of and let me suck, and let me play with her pussy as she stroked me and got me off in record time. Ok, maybe a bit too quickly, but whatever. The best part was that she didn't ask for a tip at any point, so I just gave her 500k before I left. Her name is Truc #3 (say "chook!") if you want to try her.

Oh, if anyone needs leather gloves that fit big western hands let me know. I now have 3 pairs as gifts from my regulars / girlfriends LOL.

Hello,

I'm new here Member!

I have to go to Hanoi in February in the Movenpick hotel.

If you know this hotel is that the masseuses at the spa offer extras?

Is that this hotel accepts that it brings back girls?

Thank you!

Hi Quent69,

Hope you will have a good time in Hanoi!

In general, the larger hotels 4+ stars are not girl friendly and the spas are very overpriced. Of course you can bring a girl from the outside into your room discreetly and nobody would know, but there are much better and safer options. On every street you will see signs that say "Nha Nghi" which are small hotels that you pay by the hour and can take girls there easily and are really cheap.

But if you have money to spend and want full service and a nice taste of Hanoi girls, go to the basement club of Fortuna Hotel. $35 to pick a beautiful girl to sit with you, short time sex $100 and $45 or something like that for the hotel room. Other similar option is the club next to the lobby in the Hanoi Hotel.

For spas. Just pick one off the street that says VIP Massage, they are everywhere. Happy ending you should expect to tip 500k VND ($25). For specific places and reports you can read more on the forums, there's some good reading here! .

You can pm me if you need a personal tour guide LOL.

Hi Ong Tay,

Thank you for your help.

Can you give me a good address or VIP massages are offered very clean.

Thank you!

It's difficult to find good-looking girls for sex in Vietnam, pay or no pay. Main reason must be the conservative attitudes of the people. So women, especially good-looking one, are just not avail for sex.

I was hanging out with a bunch of local guys. They ordered 4 call girls for dates. I took the tallest and best-looking one, but she looked below average compared to available girls in China, Thailand or the Philippines. She showed no passion whatsoever in bed. So the whole thing was a big yawn. Some wealthy local guys can arrange orgies for a few people, spending days in an upscale hotel, being entertained by dozens of girls, wining, dining, fucking anyone of them.

But for the average traveler looking for sex, Vietnam is a big waste of time. Better to go to other countries.

[QUOTE=Ong Tay; 1516987]LukeSkywalker, I'm so sick of all the same 27 yr old skinny vietnamese girls that I'd gladly do a bloated saggy body LOL! Ok maybe not, but the pics were MILF to me, variety is the spice of life!

Update at the Hanoi Hotel: they have been renovating the bar area for the past few weeks. So if you go and don't want a karaoke room then you get put way at the bac.[/QUOTE]

Quent69, it depends on what area you're staying at. These are my top picks, you can check google maps:

Zeus Spa. 431 Au Co.

Fortuna Spa, top floor of Fortuna Hotel. 6B Lang Ha.

VIP Ngoi Sao, A6 Nguyen Thi Thap.

LukeSkywalker, are you saying you went to both Fortuna and Hanoi Hotel and saw the 400+ girls they have and still didn't think there are any good looking girls in Hanoi? Seriously? Of course if you were out partying with a bunch of local guys and they call 4 random callgirls and you had to pick one, I wouldn't be surprised if the experience wasn't so great. That would be true in any country. (but please send me the local guys contact info LOL). Even if you go to Fortuna with friends, you will be attracted to somebody while your friend is attracted to an entirely different type of person that you find ugly. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, after all!

I have been to Thailand and Singapore and much prefer Vietnam. But I try to keep an open mind, I'll have to plan a trip to China to see where all these good-looking girls are. The best looking girls in Thailand were boys LOL

[QUOTE=Ong Tay; 1517756]LukeSkywalker, are you saying you went to both Fortuna and Hanoi Hotel and saw the 400+ girls they have and still didn't think there are any good looking girls in Hanoi?

[snip]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, after all!

I have been to Thailand and Singapore and much prefer Vietnam. But I try to keep an open mind, I'll have to plan a trip to China to see where all these good-looking girls are. The best looking girls in Thailand were boys LOL[/QUOTE]I suppose his point is that VN is not an easy hobbying destination like, for example, Thailand or the PI. This is no secret & well known by veteran punters. Of course VN will be better than places like N Korea & perhaps some Arab states.

As for Fortuna it is probably overpriced compared to Angeles City or Pattaya, eh?

In Singapore I recently saw a number of hot VN from Hanoi and Saigon. Similar in looks to those pics posted recently by JuiWan. Got a few cell numbers for my upcoming trip to VN.

If you've ever been to MBK in BKK or Bugis Junction in SG you'ld have seen many hot girls. Maybe VN girls tend to be more white than TGs and have bigger boobs than SG ladies? Although the PRC in SG are often both white & have big knockers. Quite a number of them are stunners like on the HKG.

I guess touch for some and easy for others- for me Hanoi is flooded with quality girls and easily accessible via the various approaches already highlighted in this forum.

A lot of the girls I've been with are x Singapore,

KL, Taiwan and even Shanghai- they are the cream of the crop who have secured their escape ticket via some westerner paying their upkeep but these guys are hardly ever around so we just need to fill in the gaps so to speak.

To me it's a great place to be and easy to find the exact quality I'm looking for- but we are all different

Hi Gents,

Greetings from the dusts of Abu Dhabi!

I have the pleasure of visiting Hanoi 07 Feb. 15 Feb and will be staying in The Lake Side Hotel. I would be very grateful for any intelligence on this hotel regarding 'friendliness'.

Naturally I've scanned this forum and picked up on the main haunts (many thanks to all contributors). If anyone is so inclined, I would be also grateful for a local guide / wingman that would show me the ropes one evening!

The only offerings I can give are good intelligence on Abu Dhabi and Bangkok (Sukhumvit) where I live. Despite working here, in the dust!

Please drop me a private message!

Kindest regards,

Bill

Address: 217 Au Co.

(Easy to find it!)

Price: 30$.120min massage.

Tip: 15-75$ (depends on girls / service)

I visited the place 3 times already. This massage open not long ago, so everything nice and new, the interior have a nice Japanese design.

The massage part same like Zeus or Moscow, which mean very good service. First start with sauna, after the girl wash me in the bathtub. Go to the massage table for a long cool massage, then the girl ask: "massage baby?"

And this is the part what I really like in this place. When I answer yes. The girl just grab my dick and start to work, not asking the irritating question "how much you tip for me?"

My first time visit in Sakura ended with a BJ. The girl let me completely undress her. (This usual in Sakura) the girl was 6/10, with two huge watermelon. Her act was long and cool so I tip her 500K.

Second visit: HJ, this girl was a bit shy. I felt even a bit guilty, because she looks so innocent. She tried to explain to me, she doesn't know how to do BJ, so she give me a simple HJ, she also let me undress her until panties, the act was very medium. But I think its only because she is looks like really new in this job. She was pretty 8/10 Slim short body with small tits, cute face. I give her 300K, and she looks honestly super happy. (as I told she is new.)

Third visit: The same girl like the first one, the different was this time the massage ended with FS. Tip: 1.5 million I don't remember her name, but the number is 11.

Thanks for the report on Sakura Massage, I saw it before as I passed by and now I'll have to try it sometime!

Chuc mung nam moi! Tet den roi. That means all the girls have gone home for lunar new year and Hanoi is like a ghost town for the next week. Good luck finding anything that is open!

Lately I have seen a bunch of call girls advertising on WeChat and Zalo for FS 300k. Basically you call them and they meet you at a nha nghi and you have a quick fuck. Don't expect much, but hey it's only 300k plus about 100k for the hotel for FS. They don't speak English but maybe you can use google translate and text them or something heheh pm me if you want a few numbers. I've only tried one and it was ok. Sometimes you can't be bothered to take somebody out for coffee and just want to do your business and get out of there and not have them bug you afterwards LOL

That's total US$20 sex and room. Not bad.

Thanks for sharing this good info.

[QUOTE=Ong Tay; 1525143]Thanks for the report on Sakura Massage, I saw it before as I passed by and now I'll have to try it sometime!

Chuc mung nam moi! Tet den roi. That means all the girls have gone home for lunar new year and Hanoi is like a ghost town for the next week. Good luck finding anything that is open!

Lately I have seen a bunch of call girls advertising on WeChat and Zalo for FS 300k. Basically you call them and they meet you at a nha nghi and you have a quick fuck. Don't expect much, but hey it's only 300k plus about 100k for the hotel for FS. They don't speak English but maybe you can use google translate and text them or something heheh pm me if you want a few numbers. I've only tried one and it was ok. Sometimes you can't be bothered to take somebody out for coffee and just want to do your business and get out of there and not have them bug you afterwards LOL[/QUOTE]

Well, for wechat, it depends on your area where you live! In my area, no advertisement for FS or for anything else.

[QUOTE=Ong Tay; 1525143]Thanks for the report on Sakura Massage, I saw it before as I passed by and now I'll have to try it sometime!

Chuc mung nam moi! Tet den roi. That means all the girls have gone home for lunar new year and Hanoi is like a ghost town for the next week. Good luck finding anything that is open!

Lately I have seen a bunch of call girls advertising on WeChat and Zalo for FS 300k. Basically you call them and they meet you at a nha nghi and you have a quick fuck. Don't expect much, but hey it's only 300k plus about 100k for the hotel for FS. They don't speak English but maybe you can use google translate and text them or something heheh pm me if you want a few numbers. I've only tried one and it was ok. Sometimes you can't be bothered to take somebody out for coffee and just want to do your business and get out of there and not have them bug you afterwards LOL[/QUOTE]

Hi,

This is my first post to this site.

Have been to Hanoi for the first time for tourism. After reading so many posts on this site, I decided to go with one taxi driver near my 5* hotel. One taxi driver approached me near my hotel, told me he can arrange girl in hotel room. After some discussion, I decided to venture.

He bought one girl after about 2 hours of waiting. Asking for $ 100. Settled for $80. I was not sure whether hotel will allow girl but taxi driver managed to send her to my room.

Look was 6-7/10 with average boobs. Service was excellent, totall GF experience. I was toally pleased. She was willing to do all except anal.

If you need, pm me for contact detail of taxi driver.

[QUOTE=Ong Tay;1525143]Chuc mung nam moi! Tet den roi. That means all the girls have gone home for lunar new year and Hanoi is like a ghost town for the next week. Good luck finding anything that is open![/QUOTE]I used to think that Boss Club / Fortuna would be still available.

[QUOTE=KetanMehta; 1526092]Hi,

This is my first post to this site.

Have been to Hanoi for the first time for tourism. After reading so many posts on this site, I decided to go with one taxi driver near my 5* hotel. One taxi driver approached me near my hotel, told me he can arrange girl in hotel room. After some discussion, I decided to venture.

He bought one girl after about 2 hours of waiting. Asking for $ 100. Settled for $80. I was not sure whether hotel will allow girl but taxi driver managed to send her to my room.

Look was 6-7/10 with average boobs. Service was excellent, totall GF experience. I was toally pleased. She was willing to do all except anal.

If you need, pm me for contact detail of taxi driver.[/QUOTE]How to PM here?

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[QUOTE=KetanMehta; 1526092]Hi,

This is my first post to this site.

Have been to Hanoi for the first time for tourism. After reading so many posts on this site, I decided to go with one taxi driver near my 5* hotel. One taxi driver approached me near my hotel, told me he can arrange girl in hotel room. After some discussion, I decided to venture.

He bought one girl after about 2 hours of waiting. Asking for $ 100. Settled for $80. I was not sure whether hotel will allow girl but taxi driver managed to send her to my room.

Look was 6-7/10 with average boobs. Service was excellent, totall GF experience. I was toally pleased. She was willing to do all except anal.

If you need, pm me for contact detail of taxi driver.[/QUOTE]80 dollar for 2h sex. Not bad in this country. Only 4 months salery for normal hotelworker.

[QUOTE=WebWerewolf;1526216]I used to think that Boss Club / Fortuna would be still available.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I am unsure about Boss and VIP style places but some Tam Quats were open yesterday afternoon. Thuy Khue St and also 1 in Ha Hoi St area so.

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1526583]80 dollar for 2h sex. Not bad in this country. Only 4 months salery for normal hotelworker.[/QUOTE]80 USD is 4 month salary? I think I start to understand why few people cry about prices in Hanoi.

Just to see clear: in Hanoi the average salary is 200-250USD / month. My house maid with clean up make 250 / month, and its not a high end job.

80USD for sex is sounds a lot compare with other average salary, but in VN the prostitution is illegal. And its not Thailand where the police don't care about this kind of activity. This girls who make money with sex, risk few year jail. So this is the reason why they are not cheap.

So many foreigner who come here think "yeah I'll pick up a girl for a week with 10$. Its Vietnam, I'll be the king with 10$!" 30 years ago after the war, when most of the Vietnamese starved it was true, I heard stories girls sold their bodies for a small bag of rice. But these days Vietnam is not that cheap country any more. If you want to have sex for coins travel to Laos, Cambodia or Africa.

[QUOTE=KetanMehta; 1526092]Hi,

This is my first post to this site.

Have been to Hanoi for the first time for tourism. After reading so many posts on this site, I decided to go with one taxi driver near my 5* hotel. One taxi driver approached me near my hotel, told me he can arrange girl in hotel room. After some discussion, I decided to venture.

He bought one girl after about 2 hours of waiting. Asking for $ 100. Settled for $80. I was not sure whether hotel will allow girl but taxi driver managed to send her to my room.

Look was 6-7/10 with average boobs. Service was excellent, totall GF experience. I was toally pleased. She was willing to do all except anal.

If you need, pm me for contact detail of taxi driver.[/QUOTE]Never go for a third party or a mediator. You will always end up spending twice the amount.

My first few days, I paid over 150$, which included madam fees, motorbike guy's fees, girl's extra fees and what not, and later I realize that deal I could have got for max 50$.

Go to Fortuna, Hanoi Hotel (pricey but best ones). Or To Ngoc Van for the FS places for under 1 million VND.

[QUOTE=Sydney316; 1527954]Never go for a third party or a mediator. You will always end up spending twice the amount.

My first few days, I paid over 150$, which included madam fees, motorbike guy's fees, girl's extra fees and what not, and later I realize that deal I could have got for max 50$.

Go to Fortuna, Hanoi Hotel (pricey but best ones). Or To Ngoc Van for the FS places for under 1 million VND.[/QUOTE]Don't go to the places in Ngoc van they are really low end and are the sorts of places where the girls are working after being trafficked hence the poor reports on here. If you want full service for a million or less just go to any of the local VIP massage type places and once you hit it off with a girl many are willing to meet in a hotel or Nha Nghi for around 700k to a million. Also there are many massage places in the outer districts ie long bien or dong anh where you can get full service for 500 k on the spot. Go a little further to say Tuson and it becomes 300 k.

Seventeen Cowboys or other popular name "Seventeen Salon".

Address: 98B Tran Hung Dao.

This place is a bar, with live music. If you sit in and order a beer, soon girls will appear and sit next to you to talk and keep you drinking. Most of this girls here willing to go our after work to hotel for FS. The Bar is stay open until midnight. So I recommend to come here around 10-11PM drink few beer, choose the girl, and wait until her shift ending. 20-40 girl in the bar, most of them 7-8/10, but if you lucky easy to pick up even 9/10 girls. The price is 50-150$ for ST FS depends on girl, and your negotiation skills. One my friend got a BJ in the bar restroom for 25$, so its also a option here. (Once I asked a girl here and she refuse the BJ on site, so I think not all girl doing this)

The beer not cheap 3-5$ If I remember correct, but wroth a try. Also good place to collect phone numbers, and ask the girls for meet next day.

I got off the plane, checked into the Lake Side Hotel. 2 beautiful, little local girls behind the counter. Just my spec. Little spinners and cute. Are these a good omen for things to come? I had hopes!

The Lake Side Hotel has certainly seen better days. The carpet could do with a shampoo, at least. Nonetheless, the room is of adequate size, the shower and crapper work, and the bed is clean and comfortable. Hopefully, I will be able to put it to the endurance test soon!

Showered, first stop ATM and then off to the infamous Fortuna basement. Wow! A bevy of beauties in the entrance to the basement 'bar' area. All stood up and so excited to see me (or the prospect of my wallet). I wandered to the bar and was pursued by Helen, the mamas an. Helen asked me if I wanted a lady to accompany me now. I answered that I'd like 15 minutes at the bar just to unwind and then, yes, probably! The girls were busy running around to tables when guests arrived. There was also a steady stream of traffic from the entrance where the girls were sat, passed me at the bar, to the toilets. Strangely, though, very little attempt was made to make eye contact let alone to engage me in conversation. I wondered if I had grown a second head on the incoming flight. Strange and unusual behaviour for working girls.

I decided I wanted to play and tried, in vain, to engage one or two in conversation, or at least give the green light, as they passed. Really, some little sweethearts (mostly 7 and 8s but there were certainly a few 9s, if not 10s). I looked for Helen, but she was nowhere to be seen. I then looked at my watch and saw that it was 23:15hrs. Time to make a move or look elsewhere. I asked for my bill. A mere 240, 000 ($10-12) for an orange juice. Hmmm. I realised I wasn't in Sukhumvit, Bangkok! I chose to leave as obviously my body language and newbie-ness was not fitting for this place tonight! No problem, scene surveyed, a little wiser for the next time! Disappointed though as I had $100 or so and something burning in my pocket!

Tomorrow night is Saturday night.

From the Fortuna Basement to the 17 Cowboys. Arrived at 23:30hrs.

The Filipina band was belching out noise above my decibel comfort level. The place was not so full. However, the waitresses and staff all looked pretty good. The place seemed friendly enough. The waitress that served me certainly was flirty. Even though I had difficulty hearing her. Shame she wasn't the prettiest (6/10) and certainly not a spinner. So, I did not pursue the conversation except for exchanging smiles.

Unfortunately, my drink arrived and the noisy band finished. With it, the ugly lights came on and a made scamper was made by the bar staff to get their handbags and PUFO (pack up and f*ck off!). I was sitting at the bar and observed several of the girls behind the bar give out their telephone numbers. This looks encouraging as there certainly are some sweeties to be had from here! However, it looks as though I shall have to accept that tonight is merely a recce. Shame, I've still got $100+ and something burning in my pocket!

Outside. 20 or so 17 Cowboy male staff all vying to escort me to a waiting taxi. I sat in the taxi and the male staff guy is begging me for a tip as he has an umbrella. Really, quite aggressively, or at least quite assertively."Tomorrow, Son. Tomorrow."

The taxi driver is a young man. He is quite happy to take me to The Lake Side Hotel, but he knows many beautiful ladies who would give me a 2hr massage for $20 and full service for $100. Strange, that, eh? I have $100+ and something burning in my pocket."Nah, not tonight, thanks" But then again, who dares wins!"Ok, take me to massage lady" The taxi takes me to a massage parlour near to the Turtle Tower.

The pimp inside wants 500, 000 ($25) to arrange body massage or $100 for full service. Being a little over 18 and a relatively experienced monger, I tell him $20 (400, 000) at least body massage. And no fat lady. Pretty lady. He agrees, but doesn't have any change. Ok. I should have armed myself with smaller notes! 500, 000 for 2hr body massage and if lady good, full service. Lady turns up. Yep, she's pretty. Dressed in shorts and T shirt and large spectacles. Nonetheless, she certainly is a cute spinner with very limit English. Having changed in the room, and having to put on the provided boxer shorts, she starts. 10 minutes into it, I don't get any vibes that anything special is going to be offered. So I ask her for a special, or full service massage."No understandee" came back. I touched her on her arm, and she said,"no Sir, massage only" "Tired" 30 minutes later I asked her if she wanted to give full service,"No understand, tired!" Ok. Enough fun, it is one of those nights. Just put it down to a recce. I said thank you, time to go to bed! The girl started asking for a tip. I told her that I paid down stairs and then all of a sudden, her English was pretty good! Äh, that is only for room and boss. No salary. I work for tip." I give you good massage, etc, etc." I gave her 10, 000 ($5)"Not enough, I gave you good massage" "Quiet, stop moaning. I've had 40 minutes, asked you for special. You too tired. Enough!" She follows me downstairs begging. Damn, where am I? India?

Luckily, the guy downstairs is ok (He should be, he's already had me for $25!) No complaints, just a little sheepish. The taxi is outside awaiting. In the taxi, the kid is surprised to see me so soon. I told him no luck, no special. Back to the Lakeside Hotel. The meter is running, and damn, it is running fast! From near the Turtle Tower to the Lakeside Hotel. 400, 000 ($20). Hmmm, not sure about this, but I'm a newbie to Vietnam and learning fast. Reading the posts, it would appear as though Hanoi is a lot different to Bangkok. Whilst the girls are pretty, the customs aren't so nice!

It's all part of life experiences.

Hanoi Hotel tonight and the hunt for a good sports bar to watch The Chelsea at midnight. Well, what else is there in life apart from pleasuring beautiful spinners and watching Chelsea? Even though, it appears as though Chelsea are also having difficulty scoring at the moment!

[QUOTE=ChelseaBill; 1529286]From the Fortuna Basement to the 17 Cowboys. Arrived at 23:30hrs.

The Filipina band was belching out noise above my decibel comfort level. The place was not so full. However, the waitresses and staff all looked pretty good. The place seemed friendly enough. The waitress that served me certainly was flirty. Even though I had difficulty hearing her. Shame she wasn't the prettiest (6/10) and certainly not a spinner. So, I did not pursue the conversation except for exchanging smiles.

Unfortunately, my drink arrived and the noisy band finished. With it, the ugly lights came on and a made scamper was made by the bar staff to get their handbags and PUFO (pack up and f*ck off!). I was sitting at the bar and observed several of the girls behind the bar give out their telephone numbers. This looks encouraging as there certainly are some sweeties to be had from here! However, it looks as though I shall have to accept that tonight is merely a recce. Shame, I've still got $100+ and something burning in my pocket!

Outside. 20 or so 17 Cowboy male staff all vying to escort me to a waiting taxi. I sat in the taxi and the male staff guy is begging me for a tip as he has an umbrella. Really, quite aggressively, or at least quite assertively...[/QUOTE]Great report! You tipped her nicely what does she want American prices. She must have met along of American suckers before. I would have start saying I don't understand English when she is asking for tip like she did to you. LOL

After reading the reports about the good food (ribs) on a. And. Other website, and in wake of my observations the previous evening, I decided to give the 17 Cowboys a go again. I had aspirations to get a telephone number or two from a couple of the stunning staff on display there.

I turned up at about 20:30hrs. Ribs were on my mind! Upon arrival, I was immediately ushered upstairs by a trim hostess. Not exactly a 10, but certainly do-able!"Why upstairs?" I asked. The encouraging answer that came back was "Because I can take care of you better up there!" Well, can't argue with that, eh?

The hostess took me upstairs, we passed x2 10/10s standing around waiting to serve customers. Really, x2 10/10s. Wow! I was sat down and my order taken for ribs and an orange juice. I asked my hostess if she would like anything to drink,"No thank you, I am full!" she answered. I thought that this was strange, after all, what is the primary purpose of a hostess, if it is not to sell food and beverages? My mind started to race. Perhaps she just wanted to get a big tip and an even better tip after work? Whilst eating the paltry, burnt offerings that was offered up as piggy ribs, a notice was thrust under my nose that the 17 Cowboys were delighted to announce that they had a special Vietnamese singer this evening, and in order to cover costs, they would be charging VND 400, 000 cover charge after 22:00hrs."OK, no problem!" However, I realised that it was a Saturday evening and Premier League football should be showing elsewhere, as there wasn't a cat in hell's chance that any football was going to be shewn in this bar. The hosted was touchy, touchy and suggestive. I asked her "how it worked?" to which she replied that she would escort me on the premises whilst I was there. And after? Errr, not sure. No problem, there are plenty of pretty girls in Hanoi, and I remembered the bevy of beauties at The Fortuna. They were dead certs and ready for the taking. I asked for my bill, it came to some VND275, xxx. I was thinking of dropping the hostess $10 (VND 200, 000) but then she said,"VND 225, 000 is very little money for you. And a big tip for me. You do not want your change, you give me the change". Whilst it was my plan to give her the 200, 000, I am still a little old fashioned and don't like the girls to ask or beg for drinks or tips. Kinda pisses me off. Learn some manners, or at least have some dignity like your sisters in Sukhumvit, Bangkok. I told her to bring me back VND 100, 000 as the change, as I wasn't used to girls telling what tip to give. The 100, 000 came back and like the soft prat I am, I gave it to the hostess. She thanked me and let me walk out of the bar unescorted. The Vietnamese bargirls certainly are more forward than there counterparts in Nana or Cowboy.

So, still having a couple of hundred US$ in my pocket and something else burning a hole in my pocket, I decided to go for a dead cert. The question was, Fortuna or Hanoi Hotel?

After reading the reports about the good food (ribs) on a. And. Other website, and in wake of my observations the previous evening, I decided to give the 17 Cowboys a go again. I had aspirations to get a telephone number or two from a couple of the stunning staff on display there.

I turned up at about 20:30hrs. Ribs were on my mind! Upon arrival, I was immediately ushered upstairs by a trim hostess. Not exactly a 10, but certainly do-able!"Why upstairs?" I asked. The encouraging answer that came back was "Because I can take care of you better up there!" Well, can't argue with that, eh?

The hostess took me upstairs, we passed x2 10/10s standing around waiting to serve customers. Really, x2 10/10s. Wow! I was sat down and my order taken for ribs and an orange juice. I asked my hostess if she would like anything to drink,"No thank you, I am full!" she answered. I thought that this was strange, after all, what is the primary purpose of a hostess, if it is not to sell food and beverages? My mind started to race. Perhaps she just wanted to get a big tip and an even better tip after work? Whilst eating the paltry, burnt offerings that was offered up as piggy ribs, a notice was thrust under my nose that the 17 Cowboys were delighted to announce that they had a special Vietnamese singer this evening, and in order to cover costs, they would be charging VND 400, 000 cover charge after 22:00hrs."OK, no problem!" However, I realised that it was a Saturday evening and Premier League football should be showing elsewhere, as there wasn't a cat in hell's chance that any football was going to be shewn in this bar. The hosted was touchy, touchy and suggestive. I asked her "how it worked?" to which she replied that she would escort me on the premises whilst I was there. And after? Errr, not sure. No problem, there are plenty of pretty girls in Hanoi, and I remembered the bevy of beauties at The Fortuna. They were dead certs and ready for the taking. I asked for my bill, it came to some VND275, xxx. I was thinking of dropping the hostess $10 (VND 200, 000) but then she said,"VND 225, 000 is very little money for you. And a big tip for me. You do not want your change, you give me the change". Whilst it was my plan to give her the 200, 000, I am still a little old fashioned and don't like the girls to ask or beg for drinks or tips. Kinda pisses me off. Learn some manners, or at least have some dignity like your sisters in Sukhumvit, Bangkok. I told her to bring me back VND 100, 000 as the change, as I wasn't used to girls telling what tip to give. The 100, 000 came back and like the soft prat I am, I gave it to the hostess. She thanked me and let me walk out of the bar unescorted. The Vietnamese bargirls certainly are more forward than there counterparts in Nana or Cowboy.

So, still having a couple of hundred US$ in my pocket and something else burning a hole in my pocket, I decided to go for a dead cert. The question was, Fortuna or Hanoi Hotel?

So, still having a couple of hundred US$ in my pocket and something else burning a hole in my pocket, I decided to go for a dead cert. The question was, Fortuna or Hanoi Hotel?

Hanoi Hotel was close to The Lake Side, and I had still to visit the infamous Hanoi Hotel. So, Hanoi Hotel it was.

Upon arrival, I could hear the dulcet tones of chickens being strangled aka karaoke. It must be the bar to head for. Up the stairs to the right hand side of the main hotel entrance ably escorted by a uniformed MILF. The uniformed MILF handed me over to a young barman whose first words were,"So you want lady?" Err, not just yet! May I sit down and take a few minutes?"Sure, I know you want lady! Otherwise you no come here!" First of all, an orange juice please! . And let me just observe for a few minutes, eh?"No problem!" Well, there were certainly beautiful girls all around. A cluster of well dressed escorts in the near right hand corner, several lovely girls already attached to some bar flies, and wow. 4-5 absolute stunners behind the bar. One wearing a one piece red swimsuit sporting a small but very enticing, camel toe! I assumed that the girls behind the bar, supporting the barmen, were probably working girls from the squad but couldn't work due to other reasons, such as the occasional period. But what lovely eye candy they were!

The Mamasan approached me and asked me if I would like a girl for company."Sure! That would be nice!" Mama brought over 6-7 immaculate dressed girls and asked me to pick. Now the scene in the Hanoi Hotel is much better than The Fortuna Hotel in my opinion, as it is relatively well lit, and one can see the girls much better. I asked the girls who could speak English. Strange, they all raised their hands! OK! A lovely girl in the traditional white smock (forgive my ignorance about the name of this traditional dress) and trousers caught my attention. Pert tits, lovely big eyes and she looked quite petite. Plus a lovely, beaming smile. Easy choice!

Peung (Karioke 39) joined me and had a Coke. She was flirting and touching me a lot. I loved the attention. Sat at the bar with a lovely little thing gently rubbing herself against me and caressing, subtly my leg."Massage for Sir?" Of course, that would be very nice! I take you to my hotel, Lake Side."Cannot Sir. Lake Side no lady." OK, here we go. No massage? Ï like you lot. I give you free massage!" Long time no lady. I would like more than massage."I massage you everything! You enjoy 100%" Now this little thing was sweet, but I wanted to make sure that I was going to get the full service that had eluded me since my arrival in Hanoi. May I speak to the Mamasan? Number 39 called over the mamas an. I explained to mamas an that I wanted full service and was Peung up for it? Mama asked Peung something in Vietnamese. Mamasan said Peung was up for it. The rates were $100 for short time and $150 for all night. However, PEung had already told mama that I was staying at The Lake Side. Lakeside no allow lady. Iasked Mama if she could arrange a room for me at The Hanoi Hotel."Of course. US $55 for nice room. All night" But you must pay me cash for room. A US $50 bill plus VND 100, 000 was given to mama. Within minutes I had a magnetic room key for room 305 given to me by mama.

The bar bill came to VND 1, 000, xxx which was for a Coke, an orange juice and the company of my escort. This ain't too shabby when one thinks of the going rate of AED 500 (US $150) in Abu Dhabi for a Chinese freelance takeaway, plus the beverages, in far less ambient environment.

I called the mamas an over again, gave her VND 200, 000 (US $10) as a tip. Mama was all over me like a cheap suit. It would appear that she rarely gets tips. Strange, I thought that this basic tip to any mama was not only good etiquette but would endear good service in the future. Is tipping mamas in Hanoi not a regular practice? Anyhow. Off to room 305. Room 305 turned out to be a suite. Nice one Mama! The rooms in the Hanoi Hotel are far superior than the rooms in its sister hotel, The Lake Side. Far superior. I decided I would stay the night. I took advantage of the shower whilst waiting for Peung. X2 dressing gowns (dressing robes in American dialect) were in the wardrobe along by the safe. Perfect. Flatscreen TVs in both the lounge and bedroom. Good. And bingo, Premier League football, and bugger me! The Chelsea game is being broadcast! I'm lying on the couch waiting for my provider to turn up. Peung turns up and showers and comes to the lounge wearing just the dressing gown. I'm laying on the couch with 20 minutes of the game to go and ask Peung's permission to watch the game before combat. Sure, Peung likes football. We're lying on the small couch and Peung is rubbing my knob and asking me if I want short time or long time. My brains being transferred to my knob see / o Peung's gentle handling of course scream "Long time!" Why not. It's a better room than my Lake Side room. I've paid for the room. So only the $50 delta extra for a screw in the morning. Why not?

I gave Peung the choice. She chose long time. Funny that, eh? After choosing long time, Peung decided to get on her knees and give me a BBBJ."Ah come on woman! Chelsea's on!" But, the warm, wet caresses of her expert tongue got my attention. I enjoyed the attention and though of how wet and tight she maybe. I asked Peung to stop as I didn't want to come just yet!

We moved to the bedroom and put the game on. Peung spooned into me and allowed me to gently caress her small, but perfectly formed tits. Now after her tongue service and fondling Peung's tits, my old man was itching for a bit of action. I decided to start nibbling PEung's earlobes and neck. She started to moan and squirm. Damn, I love it when the wenches squirm and moan! Moving my tongue onto her nipples and caressing her all over, I have her squirming and moaning with a vengeance within minutes. Peung puts my hand down to her box. She's dripping wet! Bingo! I move a few fingers over her wet box and gently dip one into her. Still makin Peung squirm I decide to do the sniff test of her boxes' juice. All clear! No odour! Green light for DATY! Down I go on her! After about 45 seconds Peung pushes my head away "Too much. Use fingers or f*ck me now!" No, no, no. Not yet! I gently caress her box by which time Peung has pivoted 180% and decided to give me another BBBJ. She doesn't want my tongue in her tight snatch, but my fingers gently caressing her outer lips. No problem. Within minutes Peung is coming. I had to pull her off of me or I would have come as well. She certainly is a passionate little thing. Right. Now for the main course! Condom on, Peung laying on her back, and I slip a centimetre or two inside her. She loves it. Just a centimetre or two. Gently and slowly playing with her lips and entrance. Peung is squirming and moaning and pulling me into her. I have to oblige the lady and dive all the way up to the hilt. Now I'm not a big boy by any stretch of the imagination, but I usually bottom out in nice tight, little SE Asia spinners. And tonight was no exception. Most girls like it but cannot stand too much hammer on their uterus. Peung didn't object and liked it. It doesn't get much better than this! Chelsea winning 3-0 and going top of the Premier League. Nice hotel suite. No telephone to be interrupted by the missus back home and a passionate, tight, little SE Asian spinner wanting to be f*cked and f*cked hard. 40 minutes of various positions was all I could stand. The pig in me want ed release. With PEung back on her back and her legs wrapped around me, she could still move her arse enough for me to know she was fully engaged and heading for the finish line with me. I told Peung I wanted to come. She dropped her legs down and used them to produce a really sublime rymthmical f*cking motion and said,"Come! Come inside me!" I had to check the condom as I was going to hit the vinegar strokes and push her head through the head board!

Job done! A good punt!

Cost $35 for escort. $55 for room. $150 for all night, full service.

Looks 8/10.

Sex 8/10.

Ambience 9/10.

Overall punt 8/10.

Definitely going back to Hanoi Hotel. Damn, I may even move my room to there! Finally, second night success. I must be getting old!

First, thanks for the most informative report; I'm travelling the first time to Hanoi and am a little confused what is being called the Hanoi Hilton? When I google it, I just receive the standard reply for all Hanoi Hotels; could you please tell me what the exact name of the hotel is.

Thanks

[QUOTE=ChelseaBill; 1529843]So, still having a couple of hundred US$ in my pocket and something else burning a hole in my pocket, I decided to go for a dead cert. The question was, Fortuna or Hanoi Hotel?

Hanoi Hotel was close to The Lake Side, and I had still to visit the infamous Hanoi Hotel. So, Hanoi Hotel it was.

Upon arrival, I could hear the dulcet tones of chickens being strangled aka karaoke. It must be the bar to head for. Up the stairs to the right hand side of the main hotel entrance ably escorted by a uniformed MILF. The uniformed MILF handed me over to a young barman whose first words were,"So you want lady?" Err, not just yet! May I sit down and take a few minutes?"Sure, I know you want lady! Otherwise you no come here!" First of all, an orange juice please! . And let me just observe for a few minutes, eh?"No problem!" Well, there were certainly beautiful girls all around. A cluster of well dressed escorts in the near right hand corner, several lovely girls already attached to some bar flies, and wow. 4-5 absolute stunners behind the bar. One wearing a one piece red swimsuit sporting a small but very enticing, camel toe! I assumed that the girls behind the bar, supporting the barmen, were probably working girls from the squad but couldn't work due to other reasons, such as the occasional period...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PorscheDriver; 1529873]First, thanks for the most informative report; I'm travelling the first time to Hanoi and am a little confused what is being called the Hanoi Hilton? When I google it, I just receive the standard reply for all Hanoi Hotels; could you please tell me what the exact name of the hotel is.

Thanks[/QUOTE]It's the prison from the war. Its called Hanoi Hilton.

The Hanoi Hilton is the pseudonym US military pilots used to call the old French-built Hoa Lo prison in Hanoi during the Vietnam war in the 60's and 70's.

During the war over hundreds American military pilots shot down over Vietnam were imprisoned in Hoa Lo prison in Hanoi with routine interrogation and torture. This is probably the worst place to be in the war. American pilots ironically named it the Hanoi Hilton.

After the war, Hanoi turned it into a museum showing the cruelty of French colonists towards the people of Vietnam, but there was nothing displayed about American prisoners. The museum shows cells with wooden platforms and shackles for beds, torture equipment and the original guillotine used to execute prisoners.

Hanoi Hilton is a sick play of name. I doubt Hilton hotel will ever build a hotel with this name in Hanoi.

[QUOTE=PorscheDriver; 1529873]First, thanks for the most informative report; I'm travelling the first time to Hanoi and am a little confused what is being called the Hanoi Hilton? When I google it, I just receive the standard reply for all Hanoi Hotels; could you please tell me what the exact name of the hotel is.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PorscheDriver;1529873]First, thanks for the most informative report; I'm travelling the first time to Hanoi and am a little confused what is being called the Hanoi Hilton? When I google it, I just receive the standard reply for all Hanoi Hotels; could you please tell me what the exact name of the hotel is.[/QUOTE]Try googling Hilton Hanoi Opera Hotel or just go here:

[url]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g293924-d301984-Reviews-Hilton_Hanoi_Opera-Hanoi.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Athena1;1528200]Don't go to the places in Ngoc van they are really low end and are the sorts of places where the girls are working after being trafficked hence the poor reports on here. If you want full service for a million or less just go to any of the local VIP massage type places and once you hit it off with a girl many are willing to meet in a hotel or Nha Nghi for around 700k to a million. Also there are many massage places in the outer districts ie long bien or dong anh where you can get full service for 500 k on the spot. Go a little further to say Tuson and it becomes 300 k.[/QUOTE]But I never tried to get an FS out of massage places, because they were kinda hit and miss. Usually I did not prefer to put too much effort or time into this.

Once I even tried, but the girl was so bad in English, I myself got frustrated and left, though that girl might be one of the few 10/10s I have seen in my mongering sting. Damn I still regret not knowing Vietnamese for that case alone.

Other than that, I have tried the places you are saying, those beyond Long bien bridge, where for 300k you can get FS. Most girls are quite young but again you cannot expect GFE there.

For that, the best is Fortuna or Hanoi hotel.

BTW, what happend to Sheraton's Nutz Bar? I heard it had gotten renovated last year, and the scene for mongering is over there now. Any updates?

The exact name of the hotel is: Hanoi Hotel.

[url]http://www.hanoihotel.com.vn[/url]

Hanoi Hotel is girl friendly, as is the Fortuna Hotel. Unfortunately, the sister hotel to the Hanoi Hotel, the Lake Side Hotel, is not (NOT) girl friendly.

[QUOTE=PorscheDriver; 1529873]First, thanks for the most informative report; I'm travelling the first time to Hanoi and am a little confused what is being called the Hanoi Hilton? When I google it, I just receive the standard reply for all Hanoi Hotels; could you please tell me what the exact name of the hotel is.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

You have a wicked sense of humour! Whilst the POW camps were often referred to as the Hanoi Hilton, this place, The Hanoi Hotel, believe me is a fine hotel with hot and cold running women!

[url]http://www.hanoihotel.com.vn[/url]

[QUOTE=Morten A;1529903]It's the prison from the war. Its called Hanoi Hilton.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for your clarification. Congrats for climbing to the top of the BPL.

[QUOTE=ChelseaBill; 1530170]The exact name of the hotel is: Hanoi Hotel.

[url]http://www.hanoihotel.com.vn[/url]

Hanoi Hotel is girl friendly, as is the Fortuna Hotel. Unfortunately, the sister hotel to the Hanoi Hotel, the Lake Side Hotel, is not (NOT) girl friendly.[/QUOTE]

Sitting in the Fortuna basement lounge, watching all the girls go by. So many girls lined up and getting the bright light shine on them for inspection. They're all starting to look the same actually! Then I saw one that was a little chubbier than most walk by and I immediately grabbed her. It's so hard to find a girl with some meat on her bones here! I guess I've been in Hanoi too long LOL. Her breasts were spilling out of her dress, and it wasn't long before I invited her upstairs.

She arrived at the hotel room wearing a coat and just a bra underneath. First pleasant surprise was that her large breasts were very real. Sucking on her nipples made them big and hard. She was already getting very wet and I went down on her for a bit but she was going crazy and couldn't stand it for long. She pushed me back on the bed and started licking me and sucking on my balls. Pretty good job I must say! Then she grabbed the condom and struggled a bit to get it on while holding my dick in her mouth. With some help we were ready to go, starting in missionary. Her nice big tits were shaking with the rhythm but I wanted more. So I laid down and got her to ride me instead. Playing with her nipples and sucking on them, she grinded on me for a long time and moaned as she cummed. She was a little embarrassed as clearly this wasn't a normal thing for her to actually cum with a customer. Now maybe it was the beer, maybe I was too tired, probably it was the condom that was too tight, but I still didn't get any release yet. She seemed surprised that I went for so long without cumming, and wanted to make sure I left happy. So I flipped her over and started again with doggy style. Grabbing her nice big ass as I pounded her from behind, this was exactly what I miss so much after having too many skinny girls. She moaned with the pleasure and really started pushing back in time with me, so I drilled her with everything I had until she cummed again. We both collapsed on the bed for awhile until she checked me and saw something was still rock hard with no release yet. She just opened her legs wide and laid back on the bed, but I told her it's ok, she was great but I'm tired and have to go home.

She let me take a few pics of her. Not enough pics on this thread so I'll share them here! She gave me her phone number and said she wanted to meet me outside some time."Take photo sex, and boomboom, no money ok?"

Following a post from 2010 I went to Esalen 3, a massage place diagonally across from Sofitel Plaza. Unfortunately it is very easy to find, with big bright neon saying massage and jacuzzi.

The ticket price has gone up to 200, 000, which was fine, but after a short massage I found that inflation has hit the quoted HJ price to a crazy extent. Her opening quote was 700, 000. Bonkers! After starting to get dressed she brought it down to 300, 000. I continued gettting dressed, my mood was well gone by then and if lots of negotation is required you just know the service will be shit.

A shame as she was very attractive and suggesting we exchange numbers so that she could come to my hotel some time. Goodness knows what she would have quoted for a fuck!

[QUOTE=Ong Tay;1517274]You can pm me if you need a personal tour guide LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm also a new member! Don't know how to send pms, but wonder if you're still up to take someone for a little tour.

I arrived in Hanoi yesterday evening. I have been here once before, right at the end of the last rainy season. But it was before I ever tried anything that had to do with boom boom or lady massage, and I have no experience whatsoever of that aspect of Hanoi. I do like the city though. Would like to try a night out, just to see what it's all about, maybe bring a girl home if the rates aren't as high as stated in earlier posts. Or maybe for those rates too if the girls are nice!

Will stay for some time, maximum two weeks I think.

Hey DonkeyNumber2,

Welcome to Hanoi! Sorry that you came at a bad time, sooo cold and rainy here now!

For the tourist here for a short stay, I recommend going to the basement of the Fortuna hotel. Pick from one of the 300 ladies, pay $35 for a girl to sit and drink with you, $45 or something like that for the hotel room (but they ask for your passport now!) , $100 shorttime for the girl or $150 overnight. Yes this is the premium price but the girls are probably the best you will find in Hanoi and no need to haggle about price. The same goes for the Hanoi Hotel, the bar up the stairs next to the lobby, prices and quality of girls are about the same.

For massage with a happy HJ ending, go to the top of Fortuna hotel spa, Zeus spa, or Oasis Spa. You get naked and go into the steam room, then the girl gives you a bath, washes your hair, a decent massage, then the "massage baby?" question and a happy ending. Massage costs anywhere from 400-600k ($20-30) for 90 minutes and then tip for the girl 200-500k.

Otherwise you can do the old fashioned way and date a local from the WeChat app or the Vietnam Cupid website. But that takes a lot more work.

BTW you have to buy a premium membership to send / receive private messages.

Went for a wander down Thuy Khue, which according to earlier reports on here is Tam Quat central. Tam Quats are supposedly barber shops, but in reality look nothing of the sort and it is quite obvious what they are. Finding them was straight forward, they have illuminated signs and at night they stand out. The interior is usually lit by pink lighting.

The girls offering the service might not be immediately visible. In most there were a couple of people (perhaps the owner, a family, whoever) sitting around watching TV, but if you walk in they will know what you are there for. At the one I went to I poked my head in the entrance, a girl came over and said 'massage', which was about her only word of English, and lead me upstairs.

The place was basic, a few narrow beds separated by curtains.

I showed her a bank note and indicated that I wanted a piece of paper, she came back and wrote 300, 000 on it. Seemed fair enough to me, although actually I didn't know what level of service I'the be getting, HJ or BJ.

She then indicated that I should take my pants off and lie down. She didn't waste any time in getting herself topless and starting on a BBBJ. Nice!

The service wasn't too rushed, and was a BBBJ supplemented by a HJ, she let me caress and kiss her breasts.

When done she said her second English word, 'hotel', however as I don't speak Vietnamese and her English I imagine that would have been a nightmare to arrange. Nice to know that was on the menu for next time, barring that obstacle. I then got dressed, and handed her the 300k. She said her third English word 'tip', so I indicated shock and that she had written 300k, but handed her another 50. She said 'OK', but she looked a bit disappointed so being a bit soft I gave her another 100. I presume therefore that around 400 is ballpark, and compared to pricing in other parts of Asia it isn't a bad deal.

I would rate her a 7/10, and would certainly do her in my hotel if the language barrier could be overcome.

I'm usually not one to rain on somebody's parade, but let me just share a cautionary tale, as it were. The low end Tam Quats (simply Vietnamese for Massage) specializing in this kind of service get a lot of customers, and with a BBBJ chances are you're going to get sick. Just think of what this girl does all night. A quote from The Grey movie sticks in my mind, "The gave me the clap like it was gift wrapped." Luckily the required medicine is also readily available over the counter in Hanoi if it's nothing too serious. Just a friendly reminder to have fun, but stay safe!

Really agree, it's a totally different city now during winter, it's so empty. Hoan Kiem was very very busy all day and night long during my last stay. Now it's like a ghost back packer district. But it's still nice. The thing I miss the most except for just being able to sit and relax in the sun is all the pretty girls riding motorbike, with those sexy dust and gas-protection masks on.

Prices are a little too high for me. Paying 35 dollars for company while drinking (having to buy the girls drinks too, I guess) is not just a little over the top, it's plain ridiculous, especially compared to prices for other things around here. With that kind of prices they must have some kind of rule, that if the girl does not live up to the expectations, it's allowed to change? Wondering, just in case haha.

Would be fun just to see what's up in Hanoi, with the red lighty things I mean. But it doesn't seem to be so interesting unless you either like karaoke, get lucky with the masseuse or have a big budget. At least not compared to most other places here in SE-asia. But I think just going for the normal girls would be better. I love all the cute girls around here. It's something very special with the hanoian girls. So cute so cute and so beautiful so beautiful too, at the same time. I can just walk around all day and look at them.

You know any good clubs, bars, streets or anything, where I can meet locals who wants to meet foreigners? Around Hoan Kiem was great after last rainy season, but now when it's so damn cold not so many girls sit around the lake no more. Unless they already have a guy to keep them warm, that is.

Anyone know somewhere I can get a HE combined with a real good massage, BTW? It's very rare with good massage, slow, strong, silent masseuses. Like it when the masseuses sit at me, rub themselves against me etc.

[QUOTE=Ong Tay;1533898]Hey DonkeyNumber2,[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mianbao; 1534466]Went for a wander down Thuy Khue, which according to earlier reports on here is Tam Quat central. Tam Quats are supposedly barber shops, but in reality look nothing of the sort and it is quite obvious what they are. Finding them was straight forward, they have illuminated signs and at night they stand out. The interior is usually lit by pink lighting.

The girls offering the service might not be immediately visible. In most there were a couple of people (perhaps the owner, a family, whoever) sitting around watching TV, but if you walk in they will know what you are there for. At the one I went to I poked my head in the entrance, a girl came over and said 'massage', which was about her only word of English, and lead me upstairs.

The place was basic, a few narrow beds separated by curtains.

I showed her a bank note and indicated that I wanted a piece of paper, she came back and wrote 300, 000 on it..[/QUOTE]Great review Mianbao! I will be there is year. I can't wait

Tourist rip-off.

Headed to Sakura massage after reading earlier reports on here suggesting a BJ with the girl getting naked would be had for ballpark one million including the ticket price and tip.

On the reception desk there is a sign with three options. 90min for 550k, two hours for 650k and two girls for around 900k from memory. I chose the two hour option.

The place is very well decorated and maintained. The rooms are also very nice, with a massage table, tub and sauna. The attendant will bring girls one at a time, if you don't like the first one you can request to see the next one.

The run down was sauna (at the limit of endurance I have to say) , rub down in the tub followed by normal massage. During all of this she stayed dressed (in a tight red dress). After the normal massage she laid down beside me and brushed junior, asking if I wanted her to massage or kiss it. Contrary to the previous poster's experience she wanted to clarify the tip first. To put it simply, her expectations were not in line with reality. After bargaining she came down to 500k for a hand job and one million for a blow job, with justification that some Koreans give a tip of two or three million. I politely declined, and she looked pissed off when I left a tip of 200k for just the massage.

All of this took one hour and 15 minutes, after which the staff at the front counter still wanted to charge the two hour rate. I paid the 90 min price and left.

In my opinion rule of thumb anywhere is generally to go local, which in Hanoi means a good BJ job for around 400k (from a single experience) in the Tam Quats and let the inflated tourist places like this die out. If just a HJ is your thing I am sure a service provider in a Tam Quat would still oblige.

Would not be hard finding a freebie in this town if here long enough and some Vietnamese language, you'the be lucky if only a short term visitor however.

There are just too many scams in Vietnam, everywhere from Hanoi down to central parts then HCMC, against foreigners and even against their own native people. It's very frustrating dealing with Vietnamese.

I was with a group of European tourists trekking through Vietnam. These Europeans were very sympathetic with the Vietnamese for having to endure a very long and very brutal war against the Americans. But everywhere we went, there were young and old people trying to cheat them out of small change. After having to deal with so many repeated attempts at cheating, these normally very kind and generous tourists just got very angry.

My feelings are that Vietnamese is a very hardened people by the very poor economic conditions and perhaps by the extreme brutalities during the long war. They are not easy, kind and gentle to deal with. Cambodians and Laotians went through the same brutal war, but they are much kinder and easier going when you deal with them. I cannot explain it.

It's not easy to find good-looking girls for good sex in Vietnam. The old Communist leaders are deadly ashamed that their young girls have to fuck foreigners for their living. So they go all out prosecuting prostitution to foreigners. It's just not worth the effort to hunt for sex in Vietnam.

[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1534931]There are just too many scams in Vietnam, everywhere from Hanoi down to central parts then HCMC, against foreigners and even against their own native people. It's very frustrating dealing with Vietnamese.

I was with a group of European tourists trekking through Vietnam. These Europeans were very sympathetic with the Vietnamese for having to endure a very long and very brutal war against the Americans. But everywhere we went, there were young and old people trying to cheat them out of small change. After having to deal with so many repeated attempts at cheating, these normally very kind and generous tourists just got very angry.

My feelings are that Vietnamese is a very hardened people by the very poor economic conditions and perhaps by the extreme brutalities during the long war. They are not easy, kind and gentle to deal with. Cambodians and Laotians went through the same brutal war, but they are much kinder and easier going when you deal with them. I cannot explain it.

It's not easy to find good-looking girls for good sex in Vietnam. The old Communist leaders are deadly ashamed that their young girls have to fuck foreigners for their living. So they go all out prosecuting prostitution to foreigners. It's just not worth the effort to hunt for sex in Vietnam.[/QUOTE]On the other hand I've had many hot young girls in vietnam (18 and older) with little or no effort. I've even experienced what I considered a 10 and a very enthusiastic one at that. Don't get me wrong, I've also had some bad sexperiences as well but the former far outweighs the later.

Enough to say that vietnam is a viable pooning environment.

It may depend on your expectations or your approach too.

Later, LAT.

Are many girls in Hanoi liberal regarding sexual relationships? I've had some recent experiences that has made me reevaluate the Hanoian girls attitudes towards sex with strangers. Before I was thinking they're much more conservative than girls in other major cities in SE-asia, but I'm not so sure anymore. Now I'd say they're seemingly less conservative.

Is it just me?

I would blame the cheating-mentality on the Chinese influence.

[QUOTE=LuvAsianTang; 1535114]On the other hand I've had many hot young girls in vietnam (18 and older) with little or no effort. I've even experienced what I considered a 10 and a very enthusiastic one at that. Don't get me wrong, I've also had some bad sexperiences as well but the former far outweighs the later.

Enough to say that vietnam is a viable pooning environment.

It may depend on your expectations or your approach too.

Later, LAT.[/QUOTE]Can you send me some photos of viet hotties? I am all but given up the idea that vietnam has any hotties left (all gone to overseas pastures). I have been meaning to visit for a long long time. But I have gotten accustomed to Chinese beauties especially from the north east province. I am at a point where if I do go to vietnam to enjoy the beaches, I will just take a Chinese female "friend" with me at my expense. But. I rather not bring sand to the beach if at all possible. If I wasn't so god damn picky.

In line with the Sakura report below below I agree places like zeus and Sakura are really just places with high prices and should really be avoided unless your say a short term business man just passing through. I went to zeus the other day and paid the now minimum 350 ticket price for one hour. Had a decent but unexceptional un playful massage before being asked right near the end the massababi question. I indicated a 200 k tip but she said no 500k but for what looked to be a rather generic clinical HJ coming I declined and left with no extras I couldn't be bothered negotiating further. Annoying when you know the locals can go there and just tip 200-300 k. So I headed down the road to my local massage place with a 150 ticket price and then had the best massage / HJ I have ever had in hanoi and after living here for 3 years I have had a lot. The girl was more attractive than the zeus girl anyway. She made me so exceptionally happy I tipped her 500 k anyway though I can usually tip 200 k there and even 100 one time with no problems. So given the hit and miss nature of massage experiences and the fact that the service in cheaper places is often just the same or better then your better of going local most of the time, zeus is really just the same product dressed up with a high price and the girls are often a bit dissociating in the looks department anyway.

I meant the girls are often a bit disappointing in the looks department anyway not dissociating.

[QUOTE=DonkeyNumber2;1534736]Prices are a little too high for me.[/QUOTE]If you want to have a cheap non-GFE fuck with some local working girls, you can find the street walkers not too far from the Old Quarter in the evenings. Head to the Hanoi Opera House, a few minute walk from the Hoan Kiem Lake, head down the road along the left hand side of the Opera House (as you face it) , and then at the end of the road (about 300m) turn right and you'll see anywhere from a couple to a dozen girls spaced out along the pavement seemingly watching the world go by. If it's after dark, all these girls are working girls. Boom-boom seems to be the universally understood word. Negotiate a price; you should be able to get them down to around 400k vnd, holding up fingers is a valid negotiating strategy if you don't speak the language. Try not to appear too new to it all to get the best price. Obviously the more girls that are there, the stronger your negotiating position. Once a price is agreed they'll take you over the road to a short time hotel, this is a lot easier if you have a bike, if not some of them do and you can jump on the back. You'll then have to pay 100k to the hotel for the room and will be given a condom at the desk.

Rooms are pretty grotty, but not to the point that you won't want to do the deed. A quick shower if you want and then down to business. This won't be a GFE as I said, but you'll get a quick enjoyable fuck. Don't expect BJ or anything like that, or if you do expect that they'll want extra money. After you've shot your wad just leave, no fuss. They may try to ask you for a tip afterwards, just say no and leave, don't let them guilt you into something you don't need to do.

Quality and looks of the girls varies but you can usually find a pretty good looking one. If they try to get you to have 2 of them go with you together, don't bother, it'll be half the service from each girl for twice the price (you're not staring in your own porn film with these girls) and the constantly swapping condoms will start to grate, not to mention it's harder to keep your eyes on two girls at once to make sure you stuff doesn't disappear from your pockets (never had it happen to me, but no point taking chances).

[quote=richard dawkins;1536421].[/quote]hi!

thanks for an informative and interesting post. but i don't think i will try it, if not by accident. i don't like to have sex with condom, and to have sex with se-asian prostitutes without condom is both too risky and too easy to get persuaded into.

i did however have sex with a nice girl around here a couple of times now. it was very strange however. she did some role playing thing, saying no with the mouth but yes with most other body parts, trying to get me to "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]" her. anyway, i didn't feel comfortable with the whole thing, so yesterday i decided to try something else. i went out for a walk, took a look around in the old town. most places around here seem to be scams. i didn't try any. but it was "pay first, everything included, no tipping bla bla", and if i know the north vietnamese tourist areas right, in the end only the 60 minutes will be included.

did however learn that prices are very negotiable even on the set prices of the massage. it's very easy to barter it down to half in many places. so give it a try. don't just barter with the girls. barter with the parlor and then give the girl a little extra instead, so the people doing the work get the money.

anyway, today i went to a less touristy part of the city, a couple of kilometers east of van mieu. i came there by accident, walking aimlessly. i had seen many places around, where it said "massage" or "spa" or something like that, but this one not only caught my eye, but held it. it was a somewhat crappy place. a concrete building with a neon light arrow-sign on the other side of the road, saying "massage". the place had no entrance door. the only thing resembling a door was a row of slices of plastic fabric, of the kind that when it's no wind or movement comes together as one.

behind this crappy excuse for a door sat a man. he looked serious and i guess he was there for some security reason. i walked in and got welcomed by a not particularly beautiful woman. i asked about the prices of massage. 25 usd per hour she said, pointing in her book. way to much, i replied. she asked how about 20. still no. at 15 i said 10. she said yes as nothing, and i guess even 10 dollars was too much, thinking that i saw some places later that had 4 usd per hour rates.

i got handed the only girl currently available except for the not so beautiful one who seemed to work in the register. this girl weren't very pretty either, but i don't care so much. i get the feeling many of the prettiest girls gets regulars solely for being so pretty, while not so pretty girls have to offer better service in order to keep the same customers coming time after time.

i'm pretty new to this he-massage thing, and i did not know what to expect when the girl told me to get of the clothes and started massaging. would i have to ask or would she ask in the end? would the massage be bad, as always in vietnam? of course it would. and since it was and she made it obvious what she wanted to massage, i asked her how much."tip first", she said."after", i said."tip first"."massage first, after tip".

i don't know if she understood. maybe she was thinking i was trying to negotiate, but really i had only asked how much and said i want to pay after finish. in the end i just thought why not pay first, she didn't seem to be very tricksy, so i said 200 and she was ok with it.

i still did not know what would happen. i was thinking 200 was perhaps only for a hand job, but she began sucking, sucking good too. she asked me to touch her. i sucked her nipples and began fingering her. after some time i came. she didn't care to massage more, and i didn't care to get more crappy massage either, so i didn't complain when she laid down on the bed with me. after some time cuddling, she pointed at my dick, it was hard again, and she asked if we should do it again. ok, i said, but i tried with 100 this time. i didn't even want it so much such a short time after the first one. but she was ok with 100 and it would feel stupid not to accept such a good price.

it was hard to come this time, but eventually i did and then we laid on the bed for some time more before i got dressed. she asked me for my number and where my hotel was. she seemed up for boom boom. 1.5 million she wrote on the telephone. i declined but gave her a 100 extra in tip and left to go get something to eat.

overall a surprisingly good experience for a surprisingly low price. only problem is the bj is all they can offer, there aren't any steam shower or jacuzzi next door. and i guess for a steam shower and a jacuzzi it's worth to pay a bit extra. if it just weren't for those places being so sterile and industrial, girls having numbers instead of names and what not.

I think there's a bit of cultural misunderstanding by westerners around massage joints. Lots of VN guys go for a massage, especially after drinking, just to have a massage, and be pampered a bit by a young lady. The happy ending option is just an option to complete the relaxation. It's normally on offer but not always, and a bigger tip is expected. It might be sensuous and sexual, or just a quick release. But it's not the main reason you go there. We ISG types are looking for a good HJ or BJ plain and simple. And there's the other type of westerner who is really looking for professional massage, and gets offended at the offer of a happy ending, as if it somehow demeans and invalidates the massage. I think each type has slightly misunderstood what massage places are for.

Having said that, there are places pretty well known for having nice girls who all go the extra, like Oasis and my one at 299 Cau Giay.

For a cheap dirty fuck, I reckon Tam Quats are better than street walkers. They don't all offer it, but quite a few do. It's usually routine and grotty, but you can strike gold. Some of my most memorable sessions have been chance encounters behind plastic curtains on a narrow bed.

If you can speak enough of the lingo to get even a basic conversation going with a non English speaker, and if you stick around long enough to collect phone numbers, then this really is the best place.

Are you sure? In my experience it seems that the main purpose of many of the VIP massages is to get you off ie a tam quat but a better facility. A lot of the girls either have no massage skills or they just want to massage your dick only. Also a majority of the girls seem to get quiet anxious if you don't want your dick massaged, ie they feel they haven't done or been allowed to do the job they are there for and worry they won't get paid or you aren't happy. I went to a VIP massage and appeared as though I didn't want a massage baby once and she told me that if that's the case it's strange that I came there.

My vn friend told me calling it a massage is just a cover and that 99 percent of viet men go there to get a HJ / BJ.

Drive or walk from the Hoang Quoc Viet street on the Buoi street to south (follow the canal) google maps: 21.040738, 105.806052.

After 6pm 10-15girls walking or standing next to the canal. Most of them stand with scooter.

If you are come here with taxi just ask the driver to bring you to 17 Hoang Quoc Viet, and walk from here to south on the left side of the canal (on google maps right side)

The price is 300k-600K for FS + hotel 100k-150K / hour.

[QUOTE=Minus; 1537927]Drive or walk from the Hoang Quoc Viet street on the Buoi street to south (follow the canal) google maps: 21. 040738, 105. 806052.

After 6pm 10-15girls walking or standing next to the canal. Most of them stand with scooter.[/QUOTE]This tends to be a big hit and miss experience. Mostly miss. Starfish would give better service. It's potentially a lot to fork out for not much at all. Be wary.

[QUOTE=Joffre; 1537180]For a cheap dirty fuck, I reckon Tam Quats are better than street walkers. They don't all offer it, but quite a few do. It's usually routine and grotty, but you can strike gold. Some of my most memorable sessions have been chance encounters behind plastic curtains on a narrow bed.

If you can speak enough of the lingo to get even a basic conversation going with a non English speaker, and if you stick around long enough to collect phone numbers, then this really is the best place.[/QUOTE]Completely agree with Joffre. There's some great option in TQs for sweet bugger all. Sometimes a quick and dirty fuck makes the day a lot better! I'm going exploring Nguyen Hoang Ton later today. Been a while and the urge is with me. Shall report back later.

[QUOTE=Minus; 1537927]Drive or walk from the Hoang Quoc Viet street on the Buoi street to south (follow the canal) google maps: 21. 040738, 105. 806052.

After 6pm 10-15girls walking or standing next to the canal. Most of them stand with scooter.

If you are come here with taxi just ask the driver to bring you to 17 Hoang Quoc Viet, and walk from here to south on the left side of the canal (on google maps right side)

The price is 300k-600K for FS + hotel 100k-150K / hour.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. How is the quality around there?

[QUOTE=Gromit8;1538105]Thanks for the info. How is the quality around there?[/QUOTE]I tried two girls there, one was a better looking girl (8/10) she asked for 1 million, negotiated down to 600K, starfish. Never again.

The other girl was not so high (5-6/10) I told her 300K and she accepted it without any argument. (it was a rainy day, so I think she just wanted a deal quickly) In action she was much better than the other girl before, but still a bit starfish. I think for this price rare to find better.

Today I drive again here 7-8pm (on the way to home from work) and all girl gone, maybe there was a police raid?

[QUOTE=Athena1;1535485]In line with the Sakura report below below I agree places like zeus and Sakura are really just places with high prices and should really be avoided unless your say a short term business man just passing through. I went to zeus the other day and paid the now minimum 350 ticket price for one hour. Had a decent but unexceptional un playful massage before being asked right near the end the massababi question. I indicated a 200 k tip but she said no 500k but for what looked to be a rather generic clinical HJ coming I declined and left with no extras I couldn't be bothered negotiating further. Annoying when you know the locals can go there and just tip 200-300 k. So I headed down the road to my local massage place with a 150 ticket price and then had the best massage / HJ I have ever had in hanoi and after living here for 3 years I have had a lot. The girl was more attractive than the zeus girl anyway. She made me so exceptionally happy I tipped her 500 k anyway though I can usually tip 200 k there and even 100 one time with no problems. So given the hit and miss nature of massage experiences and the fact that the service in cheaper places is often just the same or better then your better of going local most of the time, zeus is really just the same product dressed up with a high price and the girls are often a bit dissociating in the looks department anyway.[/QUOTE]Let me explain why I like these "high end" massage places like zeus and sakura or Moscow.

I'm working in VN with a long term contract, my work is stressful, working 10-12hour / day 6-7days / week. At the end of the day I want to relax. This relax can happen many different ways, pick up a street walker and bring her to a hotel for a short action, or drive to PVD and do a dirty low end game. But the best is for me to visit Zeus or sakura for 2h massage. Enjoy the sauna, bathtub the long and professional massage and at the end finish with a HJ / BJ.

If you want only BJ or HJ go to tam quat.

Want FS? PVD or street walkers or Fortuna.

I know there are many massage parlours in Hanoi with far cheaper price than this "high end" places. But I have a nice salary and I don't have so much free time to enjoy my money. So I like to enjoy sometimes the luxury environment (other days I like the dirt on PVD)

The girls services in Hanoi:

Its not like Germany where the girls act same with everybody even if you are old / young fat or thin, ugly or handsome. VN girls service depends on their opinion about you. One of my colleague give me a phone number of his regular. He told me this girl is the best in Hanoi. I tried she was one of the worst starfish I ever seen. She didn't like me, she asked more money than she use to ask from my friend.

I think the best if we keep reporting all the places and all the girls. Write the price, quality and the experience. And everybody can choose what is the best for their budget and needs.

[QUOTE=Minus;1538336]I know there are many massage parlours in Hanoi with far cheaper price than this "high end" places. But I have a nice salary and I don't have so much free time to enjoy my money. So I like to enjoy sometimes the luxury environment (other days I like the dirt on PVD).[/QUOTE]I agree with Minus. Sometimes the pampering experience is just what is needed and the 'unknown quantity' of what may occur during that experience can be a bit of a turn on. I've been pleasantly surprised at Kingston, for example, and had an awesome time. Oasis can be great or ordinary. I don't mind. Often the lengthy massage, spa and pampering are better than the quick HJ anyway.

[QUOTE=Minus;1538336]I'm working in VN with a long term contract, my work is stressful, working 10-12hour / day 6-7days / week. But I have a nice salary and I don't have so much free time to enjoy my money.[/QUOTE]Without getting too personal, or asking too much detail, what kind of work do you do in Vietnam that has a nice salary? What industry? Whatever you feel comfortable sharing. All I see are manufacturing jobs, and some hospitality jobs too.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1539055]Without getting too personal, or asking too much detail, what kind of work do you do in Vietnam that has a nice salary? What industry? Whatever you feel comfortable sharing. All I see are manufacturing jobs, and some hospitality jobs too.[/QUOTE]Sent you a PM.

[QUOTE=AmericanThief;1539055]Without getting too personal, or asking too much detail, what kind of work do you do in Vietnam that has a nice salary? What industry? Whatever you feel comfortable sharing. All I see are manufacturing jobs, and some hospitality jobs too.[/QUOTE]Sounds like production or operations manager, stressful, high hours, high pay. I know how that feels like. F

Exploring a different part of town, I stumbled across the Blue Massage VIP. 466 De La Thanh. It looked nice from the outside, so I was hoping the quality was going to be good. They had a 100 minute "red wine massage" for 600k or something like that. Quite expensive for a massage but whatever. The facilities were nice and new, although they had to check a few rooms before they found one that was working. Then my massage girl came in and she had a great body but a really terrible face. So much acne that it was a real turnoff, probably the ugliest massage girl I had yet! Into the steam room first, then down on the massage table to be rubbed with gritty stuff. It was a bit weird that she just told me to lay down right after the sauna, since I was dripping with sweat so she was basically giving me a sweat massage. Anyways it was pretty good, very gentle and relaxing. I was a bit disappointed that she stayed well away from my little friend, whereas at most other places they do a very thorough cleaning job. Then into the bathtub, the red wine is actually poured into the bath water, I was hoping I was going to relax and drink it LOL. She washed my hair and scrubbed me down, but again very professional and no funny stuff. The massage was decent, in a word I would say "relaxing." Not too hard, gentle, but not much to it. Then time for "massage baby?", again it was mostly relaxing, very gentle and slow strokes and lots of fondling my balls. Overall, although the girl I got was a dog, I would probably go back again if I wanted a nice relaxing time.

Anyways to chime in on the recent discussions about different types of entertainment, after being in Hanoi for quite a while here's my system:

Adventure. Finding random new massage places, or trying out new girls at Fortuna / Hanoi Hotel.

Relaxing. Going to my favorite regular message girl where I've been tons of times and can be guaranteed a good experience.

Good Sex. I have 4 girlfriends in rotation that are constantly bugging me to have sex. Not too hard to find through Zalo or websites.

Quick Relief. Cheap Tam Quats or working girls. Don't expect much.

There's many different options depending on what you're looking for at the time!

[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1534931]There are just too many scams in Vietnam, everywhere from Hanoi down to central parts then HCMC, against foreigners and even against their own native people. It's very frustrating dealing with Vietnamese.

I was with a group of European tourists trekking through Vietnam. These Europeans were very sympathetic with the Vietnamese for having to endure a very long and very brutal war against the Americans. But everywhere we went, there were young and old people trying to cheat them out of small change. After having to deal with so many repeated attempts at cheating, these normally very kind and generous tourists just got very angry.

My feelings are that Vietnamese is a very hardened people by the very poor economic conditions and perhaps by the extreme brutalities during the long war. They are not easy, kind and gentle to deal with. Cambodians and Laotians went through the same brutal war, but they are much kinder and easier going when you deal with them. I cannot explain it.

It's not easy to find good-looking girls for good sex in Vietnam. The old Communist leaders are deadly ashamed that their young girls have to fuck foreigners for their living. So they go all out prosecuting prostitution to foreigners. It's just not worth the effort to hunt for sex in Vietnam.[/QUOTE]Luke, how do you account for the Ventura Hotel and / or The Hanoi Hotel? I had an exceptional time with Ong Tay a couple of weeks back. Some of the best looking SE Asian girls and some phenominal sex.

Please excuse this belated post. I've been a bit snowed under with work and what with she who must be obeyed paying me a visit enroute to Thailand. (I'm based in Abu Dhabi).

I visited Hanoi to undertake a week's worth of freelance consultancy for Japan Transport Consultants (Hanoi Metro Line 1). Well, that was the excuse to visit Vietnam! JTC stuck me in the Lake Side Hotel (a hotel that has certainly seen better days!) but was only a hop, skip and jump from their offices.

After a dismal first night reconnaissaince (recce) that saw me venture to 17 Cowboys and a dud local massage parlour where nuffin was offered. Even at a price.

Whilst waiting for Ong Tay to pay pity on and contact me, I decided to visit the Hanoi Hotel which waswithin walking distance of it's sister hotel, the Lake Side Hotel. The first floor 'karioke club' sported a whole raft of tight bodied little Vietnamese dolls dressed in traditional costume and smart evening dresses. I have noticed that thesedays I can resist anything but temptation, and having a a few little blue headache tablets (Viagra) in my wallet.

The barman was a cocky S. O. B and asked me if I wanted lady. When I declined, he then asked me why I was there. Just window shopping at the moment was my response. 10 minutes or so later I was hit on by the mamasan. Same-same story. Only looking. At which point she beckoned a handful of girls over to me at the bar. OK. Now you is playing dirty. I chose the prettiest girl with a trim body who was dressed in the white national costume. I invited her to join me. Just for a drink and to talk, of course. Now, I don't know about you other punters, but when I am in the presence of an available and willing girl that I am attracted to, and she puts my hand on her waist and then gently caresses the old man, my will crumbles. Needless to say, being an ex-airborne soldier I put up a fierce resistance as there is no way I wanted to be taken prisoner by the Vietnamese. So I started blubbering something about "I'm in the LAke Side Hotel, and they don't allow ladies to visit". Of which she countered that short-time rooms were available in The Hanoi Hotel for US $55. And she was only US $100. Ah what the hell, if not tonight it will be tomorrow night and what was the real objective of visiting Hanoi anyway? Yes, to sample as many local beauties as possible.

After about 45 minutes of being caressed and feeling a nice trim waist, I paid the bar bill, $35 for the girls time as well as $55 forn the room. Mamasan brought me a room key. The girl disappeared and said she would visit me in the room in 10 minutes. The room, well, damned good room! It was a suite. Quick shower, flick through the channels and found Chelsea playing live. The girl turned up and was quite happy for me to watch Chelsea whilst she showered. She emerged from the shower, joined me on the couch and began to caress me which led to a BBBJ. Oh my! Chelsea scored a couple of goals and secured the 3 points which meant it was probably time for me to do a bit of dancing in the sheets!

The girl's body, to be honest, wasn't as tight as I thought it would be. She certainly wasn't a 'hippo-croco-pig' by any stretch of the imagination. But, I do believe the traditional dress of trousers under that there long blouse certainly does them a favour.

Cut a long story short, the girl was a screamer. She loved me eating her. She gave good BBBJs and loved to f*ck. There wasn't any clock watching and she just let me ride her, caress her, lick, suckl and fuck her in every possible position and for as long as I wanted. I know I'm twisted and enjoy bringing the girls to the brink of orgasm and making them sing and eventually beg for release. This lovely facilitated my sick mind. And seemed to enjoy it. So short time was converted to long time for an additional $50. I was surprised that she put the alarm on for 06:00hrs as she had a day job to go to! So, after a few quick sessions throughout the night and one when the alarm went off, we hosed down, kissed and went our separate ways.

All in all, a very enjoyable experience! Sex 8, Aesthetics 7/8, VFM (Value for Money) , ah hell, life is short! 8!

Reports to come from similar adventures from The Ventura Hotel playing wing man to Ong Tay! (Many thanks Ong Tay. I'm off 'home' to Bangkok 17-19 April. Please allow me to reciprocate your generosity with time and tour guide if you can!)

Geisha Massage. 92 Nguy Nhu Kon Tum, I guess you would call that Thanh Xuan district. I've been there before, but I got convinced to go again. We asked for the 700k 2 hour King Massage that looked awesome with a picture of a luxuriously elegant wooden bed, but were sadly informed that it wasn't available. So we settled on the 500k 2 hour massage. My girl came in and she looked great, a bit curvy but in all the right ways, which I've been missing lately. And a beautifully big pair of lips on her! I took off my clothes and I noticed she was staring at my package. Like, literally staring at it in wonderment. I just laughed, and she led me into the steam room. After that, she took me into the bathtub, and washed me down and paid extra special attention to my little friend, making sure it was nice and clean (and starting to grow by now). She asked me to stand up, and then kept stroking it slowly with her soapy hands, watching it grow. She got me out of the bathtub and gave me a shower, then laid me down on the massage table. And then she proceeded to lay down next to me, sucking on my nipples and fondling me. Ok, this isn't what usually happens, but I'm not about to complain. She slowly worked her way down and gave me a nice and slow BBBJ. After my release, she took off her bra and let me suck on her perky little titties while my fingers went exploring. When she noticed that I was up for round two, she asked if I wanted another go, but I declined mostly because I was worried she would want double the tip. So she just laid with me on the table for a bit more, to the point I was actually thinking it was weird that she didn't even pretend to give me a massage. After that I got dressed and tipped her 500k and she was really happy. Her name is Ngoc if you want to try her, but of course your experience may vary. I would have asked for her phone number, but I have a new policy not to get involved with the working girls. When I got downstairs I realized it was only an hour, which was fine by me honestly. My friend came down a few minutes later, also only about an hour but at least he reported that he actually got a massage LOL.

Hello,

I am in Hanoi for next 10 days. So considering 3 options (massage saloon someone mentioned. 17 cowboys [to see if girl may approach me] or Hanoi Hotel).

How does it work in Hanoi hotel? Where are this girls located? When should I go there? Can I get the girl to my own hotel (other one).

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=FoxMulder1; 1543270]Hello,

I am in Hanoi for next 10 days. So considering 3 options (massage saloon someone mentioned. 17 cowboys [to see if girl may approach me] or Hanoi Hotel).

How does it work in Hanoi hotel? Where are this girls located? When should I go there? Can I get the girl to my own hotel (other one).

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Massage saloon. Not familiar (address?). Let us know if is worth it.

17 cowboys. Recommend.

Hanoi Hotel. Recommend; girls at hanoi KTV (level 2) , about 7pm. Girls from Hanoi KTV back to Hanoi hotel room. No problem.

Other recommendation.

Fortuna Hotel (Boss KTV). (safe but pricy)

Oasis 2 Hotel-massage.

Zeus Spa-massage.

Moscow-massage.

Hi FoxMulder1,

Welcome to Hanoi! I hope it finally stops raining when you are here heh.

For Hanoi Hotel, the stairs up to the bar is right next to the lobby desk. At the Fortuna, the bar is in the basement, there are some stairs down near the elevators next to the window, but there are no signs or anything. Action at Fortuna starts at 6, while the girls show up at Hanoi Hotel bar around 8pm. In both cases, somebody will seat you at the bar and then ask if you want a girl to join you. They will present about 7 girls to choose from, feel free to ask for more as there are hundreds that work there. When you find one you like, she will sit with you and flirt etc for $35 plus cost of her drink. Then if you want to take it upstairs for full service, you can book a room at the hotel for about $50 and pay the girl $100 for short time or $150 for all night. Both places won't let you take the girl someplace else.

Hope that helps! Be sure to report your adventures.

Thanks. Let me contribute a little to this society.

I tried:

1. Hanoi Hotel. It is like everyone said here already. In the end, I ended up talking to one nice waitress whole night (she is not a prostitute).

2. Streets behind Opera House. Average girls. Few of them outside. Not for me.

3. Sukura Massage in downtown (near Pullman hotel). I went in for a 2 hour (550. 000 dong). Young girl. 7/10. Doesn't speak english. First sauna, then bathtub (for me and my junior). After that a massage. She didn't allow me to touch her. After about 50-60 mins, she asks if I want the massage for my junior. I tell her OK. She asks for 100 dollars. Haahhahahaa. I gave her 500. 000 dong (approx 25 dollars). I went down, they wanted to charge me for 2 hours. I didn't want to give. Its not about 100. 000 dong differernce. Its just that they are trying to cheat tourists. I have 450. 000 and went away.

[QUOTE=FoxMulder1; 1543805]Thanks. Let me contribute a little to this society.

I tried:

1. Hanoi Hotel. It is like everyone said here already. In the end, I ended up talking to one nice waitress whole night (she is not a prostitute).

2. Streets behind Opera House. Average girls. Few of them outside. Not for me.

3. Sukura Massage in downtown (near Pullman hotel). I went in for a 2 hour (550. 000 dong). Young girl. 7/10. Doesn't speak english. First sauna, then bathtub (for me and my junior). After that a massage. She didn't allow me to touch her. After about 50-60 mins, she asks if I want the massage for my junior. I tell her OK. She asked for 100 dollars. Haahhahahaa. I gave her 500. 000 dong (approx 25 dollars). I went down, they wanted to charge me for 2 hours. I didn't want to give. Its not about 100. 000 dong differernce. Its just that they are trying to cheat tourists. I have 450. 000 and went away.[/QUOTE]Hopefully you received your happy ending with $25. Otherwise you are paying too much for just massage.

Hi Ong Tay,

Your top 3 massage places and pub similar to 17 cowboys. I'm out of ideas.

Thanks in advance.

Just a random girl I found on Zalo. Who turned out to have the most untamed Bush I ever saw! We're talking a complete jungle here, get out the hedge trimmer! Most of the "pro" girls I have met seem to keep things trimmed nicely, while the average girls off the street seem to let things go wild down there. I have heard more than one Vietnamese say that it means the girls are horny if they have a hairy Bush. Of course it might be true, cause this girl performed great but she was way too skinny for me.

[QUOTE=Ong Tay;1544119]Just a random girl I found on Zalo. Who turned out to have the most untamed Bush I ever saw! We're talking a complete jungle here, get out the hedge trimmer! Most of the "pro" girls I have met seem to keep things trimmed nicely, while the average girls off the street seem to let things go wild down there. I have heard more than one Vietnamese say that it means the girls are horny if they have a hairy Bush. Of course it might be true, cause this girl performed great but she was way too skinny for me.[/QUOTE]Have to put my two cents in here. I have only had freebies in Hanoi. Unfortunately, the last girl wouldn't allow pictures but WOW, she was more hairy than the girl in OT's picture. I am in hanoi in 2 weeks and have set up to meet a new girl, who already told me she doesn't shave and is that OK? My feeling is. If they are clean, its OK. Got a 26 year old in HCMC who I am meeting, she is tiny and told me "VN girls don't' shave their pubic hair". Agree, the P4P girls seem to trim or shave. But not the freebies. But I'll take a GFE for free anytime. This must be some cultural thing. I do think that the HCMC girl doesn't shave her armpits. At least seems like that in the pics she sent to me. But I'll find out soon enough hehehe.

By the way, found these girls on VNlove in case people ask. Tagged has been very good to for VN freebies.

GG

Yes, Yes. Massage, Bath, Sauna, HJ. 450.000 + 500.000 dong.

Anyway, I see some massage place just across the Pullman hotel. Anyone been there? I went there today, girs were screaming at me in a way "Come here".

Nice scenery Ong Tay!

Much wilder than the bushes in the dusts of Abu Dhabi!

[QUOTE=Ong Tay;1544119]Just a random girl I found on Zalo. Who turned out to have the most untamed Bush I ever saw! We're talking a complete jungle here, get out the hedge trimmer! Most of the "pro" girls I have met seem to keep things trimmed nicely, while the average girls off the street seem to let things go wild down there. I have heard more than one Vietnamese say that it means the girls are horny if they have a hairy Bush. Of course it might be true, cause this girl performed great but she was way too skinny for me.[/QUOTE]

Guys,

I am now in Hanoi. Found a nice MILF on VN love. She is all about the sex. But, wow, what a girl, she drives me around on the motobike, changes my US dollars to VND on the going rate, feeds me, bathes me (loves joint showers) and fucks me blind. Only complaint. Pussy is incredibly hairy. WOW. Could be the most hairy I have seen up close to date. I almost convinced her to let me get a photo of it hehehe. So. This is a regular girl. No numbers shared, sorry.

Anyway, VNlove dating site seems fruitful. I'll check out my 26 year old in HCMC I met there next week.

GG

Ok I'll ask, what specifically is the url for the VN Love website? I can't seem to find it.

And pics or it didn't happen, Geneva Guy! .

[QUOTE=Ong Tay; 1549944]Ok I'll ask, what specifically is the url for the VN Love website? I can't seem to find it.

And pics or it didn't happen, Geneva Guy! .[/QUOTE]OT,

Yes you are right. No pics. But fortunately for me it did happen hehehehe. Check you PMs for the website, posting them on here is frowned upon I believe.

GG

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1506201]A while back I posted about this escort girl I met through TNH. She has asked me to post on here for any Senior Member to PM me for her e-mail address. She is a nice college age girl. Nice body. Good service. Very good English. Drop me a line if you wish to get her e-mail. She has some excellent skills. No anal though.[/QUOTE]Hi Fritobugger,

Sounds interesting.

Would you mind sharing her contact details?

Best,

Nick

Sorry, I only share them by PM though it may not matter since she has not been active of late.

[QUOTE=A Nick; 1551722]Hi Fritobugger,

Sounds interesting.

Would you mind sharing her contact details?

Best,

Nick[/QUOTE]

Long time lurker. I've been in Ha Noi for around a year, and I've just recently started discovering the scene here, after this year's Tet actually. Don't know what prompted the need. As some others, I'm a sucker for VIP massages: I like to be pampered for 2 hours in a nice setting, after a long work week.

Went this Saturday to [b]Geisha Massage One[/b], located on 92 Nguy Nhu Kon Tum, Than Xuan district, opposite side of a football field. You can't miss it with its giant sign on top of the building. The prices range from 450k to 700k VND for the 2 hours VIP treatment. I chose the 500k 2 hours. Got taken to the 4th floor (there are 6, with 4 rooms at each floor I guess). The room was spotless, with a separate sauna / shower; the only thing was a bit of a smell on the massage table sheet.

Got undressed, the girl comes in, she's wearing a short red dress with one bare shoulder, and I'm already wondering how I'm going to get access into that. Well, I think, it's going to be one of those Massage. No problem, it's part of the game. She seems shy, speaks a little English: her name is Thao, she's only 21 and maybe 1m60. A nice round face, and overall curvy. She gives me trunks and off to the sauna. Strangely, I can't sit because the steam doesn't get to the chair, so I stand there for 15 minutes.

After that good sweat, time for the jaccuzzi. She gives me a nice scrub and a gentle shampoo, but strangely avoid touching junior. She asks me to get up to rinse me, and finally she cleans baby, but only mechanically. No words are exchanged.

Then comes the massage, and I have to say she was quite skilled in that department. She started with my head and neck, and then the foot, and then the whole leg. Stiil nothing in the sexy department. She asks me to turn around and sits on me to massage my back (again quite good). I grab her legs and start to tickle her, and that seems to break the ice as she jiggles. After asking for my okay, she grabs the stand attached to the ceiling and walks up and down my back, which is for me one the best part of the massage, as I usually have a sore back. She then asks me to turn around again and starts massaging my shoulders and arms. By that time, I feel quite relaxed, but not expecting much more.

She stops, and stares at me for 30 seconds. I ask her what, and she finally asks the fatadic question : "You want massage baby?"."Okay" I say. She then immediately starts sucking on my nipples, and slowly and gently kisses me down while stroking my dick. She then grabs it and gives me a very nice BBBJ for as long as it takes me to cum. Meanwhile, my hands gets under her panties and I finger her while she moans a little. Unfortunately, her dress doesn't allow much more. It's obvious she doesn't want CIM, so I gently pull her head as I'm about to come. She looks at me with a smile and gives me a small kiss.

After checking the clock, we're only at 1h20minutes, so I ask her to again walk up and down my back which she agrees to. She does that, and then lies next to me for 10 good minutes, gently stroking my body and tells "You're very handsome". Every guy must get that, but still. Oh well, it's time to go. I take a quick shower, she dresses me, and I'm fully dressed when I ask her how much she wants, which she didn't bring up so far. She shyly says 500k (which is my standard tip) , but I give her a 100k more. I also grab a snap of her and a phone number. Who knows.

She comes with me in the lift, and again she says "You're very handsome". I pay the front-desk girl and off to grab a taxi home which also comes to a 100k.


All in all, a good experience, but as always it all depends on the girl feels about you and vice-versa, which makes the game more fun with the Vietnamese ladies in my limited experience. You never know what to expect.

Geisha Massage One. 92 Nguy Nhu Kon Tum, Than Xuan district.

Thao, #2.

A previous report on [b]Geisha Massage One[/b] By [b]Ong Tay[/b] :

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1041-Hanoi&p=1540506&viewfull=1#post1540506[/url]

[QUOTE=DoctorSlump; 1552291]Long time lurker. I've been in Ha Noi for around a year, and I've just recently started discovering the scene here, after this year's Tet actually. Don't know what prompted the need. As some others, I'm a sucker for VIP massages: I like to be pampered for 2 hours in a nice setting, after a long work week.

Went this Saturday to [b]Geisha Massage One[/b], located on 92 Nguy Nhu Kon Tum, Than Xuan district, opposite side of a football field. You can't miss it with its giant sign on top of the building. The prices range from 450k to 700k VND for the 2 hours VIP treatment. I chose the 500k 2 hours. Got taken to the 4th floor (there are 6, with 4 rooms at each floor I guess). The room was spotless, with a separate sauna / shower; the only thing was a bit of a smell on the massage table sheet.

Got undressed, the girl comes in, she's wearing a short red dress with one bare shoulder, and I'm already wondering how I'm going to get access into that. Well, I think, it's going to be one of those Massage. No problem, it's part of the game. She seems shy, speaks a little English: her name is Thao, she's only 21 and maybe 1m60. A nice round face, and overall curvy. She gives me trunks and off to the sauna. Strangely, I can't sit because the steam doesn't get to the chair, so I stand there for 15 minutes.

After that good sweat, time for the jaccuzzi. She gives me a nice scrub and a gentle shampoo, but strangely avoid touching junior. She asks me to get up to rinse me, and finally she cleans baby, but only mechanically. No words are exchanged...[/QUOTE]Fantastic report! Quick question: is BBBJ standard at Geisha?

[QUOTE=Declan Murphy;1552490]Fantastic report! Quick question: is BBBJ standard at Geisha?[/QUOTE]Thanks. For your question, I wouldn't really know, as it was my only time there, but Ong Tay's report seems to show it's fairly common there if you ever get to that part of the message. Try it and report!

Glad to see someone else enjoyed the Geisha One! The last time I was there, I tried the four hands massage, which normally is twice the price for half the fun. But at this place, the girls were great and playful, leading me from sauna to bathtub by holding my cock like a leash, etc. Then they both took turns giving me a BJ which was quite enjoyable. So big marks from me for this place: clean, modern facilities, good quality of girls. But now that the hidden gem is revealed, it's time for me to move on LOL.

I've actually been having a really good string of luck with random massage places lately. I'll have to check my notes and post a few more reviews.

[QUOTE=Ong Tay; 1552953]Glad to see someone else enjoyed the Geisha One! The last time I was there, I tried the four hands massage, which normally is twice the price for half the fun. But at this place, the girls were great and playful, leading me from sauna to bathtub by holding my cock like a leash, etc. Then they both took turns giving me a BJ which was quite enjoyable. So big marks from me for this place: clean, modern facilities, good quality of girls. But now that the hidden gem is revealed, it's time for me to move on LOL.

I've actually been having a really good string of luck with random massage places lately. I'll have to check my notes and post a few more reviews.[/QUOTE]LOL on the leash part. I also tried the 2 mouthes thing in another place. Have to write a report.

Anyways, you all know that there is a few national holidays coming in in two weeks (Wed. 30th April, Thurs. 1st May) so we just to take two days leave to make a very long week-end. I was thinking of going out of the country, and I'm looking for a few suggestions (not too far like Bali e. G.) where one can have fun.

Thanks

If you want to stay in VN, I suggest Hai Phong nearby, or Vung Tau in the south. For a different country, Thailand is close and easy to find fun stuff to do. Second choice would be the Philipines. Of course, this is assuming you're going by yourself to have a little fun with the locals.

If you're up for something a bit more on the wild side, check out Phnom Penh or Siem Reap. Plenty of fun to be had but it's a bit more 'wild west' than here in Vietnam. Check the relevant Cambodia section for more info.

[QUOTE=DoctorSlump; 1553482]LOL on the leash part. I also tried the 2 mouthes thing in another place. Have to write a report.

Anyways, you all know that there is a few national holidays coming in in two weeks (Wed. 30th April, Thurs. 1st May) so we just to take two days leave to make a very long week-end. I was thinking of going out of the country, and I'm looking for a few suggestions (not too far like Bali e. G.) where one can have fun.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaseyStar;1553812]If you're up for something a bit more on the wild side, check out Phnom Penh or Siem Reap. Plenty of fun to be had but it's a bit more 'wild west' than here in Vietnam. Check the relevant Cambodia section for more info.[/QUOTE]The Philippine Islands has a rep for being "wild west" like. I'd think moreso than Cambodia. Vietnam with all the motor bikes makes me think of a country full of hell's angels.

[QUOTE=CaseyStar;1553812]If you're up for something a bit more on the wild side, check out Phnom Penh or Siem Reap. Plenty of fun to be had but it's a bit more 'wild west' than here in Vietnam. Check the relevant Cambodia section for more info.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=PinkPearl;1554240]The Philippine Islands has a rep for being "wild west" like. I'd think moreso than Cambodia. Vietnam with all the motor bikes makes me think of a country full of hell's angels.[/QUOTE]I think my previous post got deleted because I added an external image link. So, I was wondering what you guys mean by "wild west"? I'm afraid it could be difficult, because I'm not caucasian. Money talks, but still there are certain cultural prejudices you can't fight.

Back on track on Ha Noi, I needed to get a haircut this week-end, and there is a place that's definitely a little shady, but explicitely says professional men haircut, so I guessed it can get a haircut with benefits. I got in, and was greeted by 4 ladies in skimpy outfit. I asked for "cat toc" and they reply "only massage". I got out, but will visit again when in the mood.

Anyways, I still have a very hard time telling which places offer what. Clues most welcome.

[QUOTE=CaseyStar;1553812]If you're up for something a bit more on the wild side, check out Phnom Penh or Siem Reap. Plenty of fun to be had but it's a bit more 'wild west' than here in Vietnam. Check the relevant Cambodia section for more info.[/QUOTE]Siem Reap "wild"? You can take your maiden aunt there and she'd be bored out of her skull once she has seen all the temples.

[QUOTE=DoctorSlump; 1554710]I think my previous post got deleted because I added an external image link. So, I was wondering what you guys mean by "wild west"? I'm afraid it could be difficult, because I'm not caucasian. Money talks, but still there are certain cultural prejudices you can't fight.

Back on track on Ha Noi, I needed to get a haircut this week-end, and there is a place that's definitely a little shady, but explicitely says professional men haircut, so I guessed it can get a haircut with benefits. I got in, and was greeted by 4 ladies in skimpy outfit. I asked for "cat toc" and they reply "only massage". I got out, but will visit again when in the mood.

Anyways, I still have a very hard time telling which places offer what. Clues most welcome.[/QUOTE]I think if the sign is in bright pink and has a name like Night Star then you can read between the lines LOL.

Last week I got my motorbike washed and sat down to have a beer while I waited. A kid working there offered me some weed that he was smoking. Weed? Yes, real homegrown pot. Normally I avoid drugs in asian countries where they are likely to throw you in the dungeon or cut off your hand or something, but I figured in this setting it was pretty safe. 35k for motorbike washed, a beer, and free pot, not bad LOL! So when I was on my way home and feeling relaxed and up for some fun, I saw a place "Cafe Tam Quat" on Lac Long Quang near Au Co. So I thought, hey that's nice, you can sit back and have a coffee while they suck your dick. So I went inside and and the guy at the front desk asked "Lipton?" I agreed and he took me upstairs, passed by a room with an open door and saw a really old grandpa pulling up his pants. Okaaay. Then keep going up the stairs, and on the way a middle-aged lady met me and eagerly poked at my shorts. She was old and ugly, like 40 something and looks like she should be out working on the farm, but I went along with it anyways. She led me into a big empty room with a small massage table behind a curtain (well, a bed sheet hanging on a string). She quickly pulled down my pants, sat me on the massage table and went at it. Which wasn't really good at all. Her fingernails were dirty, she was missing half a pinky finger, and there was no way I was going to get off under these conditions. She did try hard though, but after awhile I called it quits. Gave her a tip and went downstairs and paid 280k I think for the tea. And then went home and scrubbed myself down with antibacterial soap ughh. I don't know what I was thinking going to a Tam Quat when I get so much better for free, I just went for the experience I guess.

[QUOTE=DoctorSlump; 1554710]I think my previous post got deleted because I added an external image link. So, I was wondering what you guys mean by "wild west"? I'm afraid it could be difficult, because I'm not caucasian. Money talks, but still there are certain cultural prejudices you can't fight.

Back on track on Ha Noi, I needed to get a haircut this week-end, and there is a place that's definitely a little shady, but explicitely says professional men haircut, so I guessed it can get a haircut with benefits. I got in, and was greeted by 4 ladies in skimpy outfit. I asked for "cat toc" and they reply "only massage". I got out, but will visit again when in the mood.

Anyways, I still have a very hard time telling which places offer what. Clues most welcome.[/QUOTE]From what I understand. 9 out of 10 "cat tocs" are actually BJ / FS places, although the conditions are generally filthy and the quality of girls vary wildly. FWIW, I never visit these places myself due to the questionable hygiene standards of the places and the people working there.

[QUOTE=Ong Tay;1554927]She was old and ugly, like 40 something and looks like she should be out working on the farm, but I went along with it anyways. She led me into a big empty room with a small massage table behind a curtain (well, a bed sheet hanging on a string). She quickly pulled down my pants, sat me on the massage table and went at it. Which wasn't really good at all. Her fingernails were dirty, she was missing half a pinky finger, and there was no way I was going to get off under these conditions. She did try hard though, but after awhile I called it quits. Gave her a tip and went downstairs and paid 280k I think for the tea. And then went home and scrubbed myself down with antibacterial soap ughh. I don't know what I was thinking going to a Tam Quat when I get so much better for free, I just went for the experience I guess.[/QUOTE]Wow that's quite the awful experience. I would've turned around the left the moment I saw the lady, cause there's definitely no way I would've been able to release under those conditions!

[QUOTE=JohnAppleseed;1555784]From what I understand. 9 out of 10 "cat tocs" are actually BJ / FS places, although the conditions are generally filthy and the quality of girls vary wildly. FWIW, I never visit these places myself due to the questionable hygiene standards of the places and the people working there.[/QUOTE]I have never visited a cat toc in Hanoi because I assumed they wouldn't offer the same service as you get in HCMC. Seems I may be wrong. Happily. Whule I generally agree with JohnAppleseed about hygiene, sometimes a quickie in a dirty barber shop or tam quat is just the ticket. Thanks Doc Slump for sharing. This place is worth a look next time I'm in the neighborhood.

[QUOTE=CaseyStar;1555993]I have never visited a cat toc in Hanoi because I assumed they wouldn't offer the same service as you get in HCMC. Seems I may be wrong. Happily. Whule I generally agree with JohnAppleseed about hygiene, sometimes a quickie in a dirty barber shop or tam quat is just the ticket. Thanks Doc Slump for sharing. This place is worth a look next time I'm in the neighborhood.[/QUOTE]No problem. The forum is all about sharing isn't it. And if you don't like it, Kingston (Hang Chuoi) is 50 meters away.

Do you mind telling me what you mean by Phnom Penh and Siem Reap "wild west" side?

[QUOTE=DoctorSlump; 1556058]No problem. The forum is all about sharing isn't it. And if you don't like it, Kingston (Hang Chuoi) is 50 meters away.

Do you mind telling me what you mean by Phnom Penh and Siem Reap "wild west" side?[/QUOTE]Sure. Don't get me wrong, I actually enjoy the scene in Cambodia. But it's generally a bit more 'rough and ready'. Practically any bar will have working girls available. Walkabout is famous for always having a number of girls there, shooting pool and available for a quickie in the guest house next door any time. Some of the 'chicken farm' joints make a Tam Quat look like paradise. Generally, it feels a little more unsophisticated and, especially at night time, a bit more edgy and dangerous. It's much cheaper in Cambodia than Vietnam, unless you go for the higher class girls to be found at the casino. They are bloody expensive!