Nairobi

[QUOTE=Mjuaji2003]I went there for the 150/- boozes in a quiet homely environment with a fireplace and nice company instead of some chaotic bar. I didn't go for the sex. 3,000/- an hr is outrageous.[/QUOTE]No need to apologize , Mjuaji . Whatever motivates you should be of no concern to any 3rd party : if your fancy gets tickled , you pay whatever you feel is appropriate , and that is it . Period .

Different strokes for different folks : in N.A. people are used to paying $2-300/hr for escorts ( and $ 1,800 for the likes of Tiffany Mynx -as I did twice so far ) .

So what is KES 3,000/hr ? $40 or thereabouts , right ?

I'd feel guilty as hell !

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Of course you are right but viewed in context, if you got one hour of fun for less than 30 euros in Germany or UK, you would post here on ISG crowing about it and guys would be either begging you for contact details or calling you a downright liar.[/QUOTE]That's true. That's why Kenya is so addictive despite its problems.

Spent a week in Nairobi recently and as I benefitede from others here it's only fair to share what I experienced.

Landed mid evening and stayed at Chester House - think it was $110 for an exec room. It was ok and fitted the bill on three counts as I had researched here - was clean, next to Madhouse, and no charge for the girls.

After a couple of sharpeners in the bar went straight over the road to Madhouse (it is an easy 20 second safe walk). Well this place was as advertised even on a Monday night. grabbed a beer and was approached immediately by a real nice girl - lots of contact and after 5 mins asked for a drink - but I was not about to be stuck with the first girl that came along so said no. This happened several times and eventually was drunk enough and was late enough to decide that Nancy was the one I wanted to come back with me. She would not talk about taxi fare so I offered 2500 KES which she rejected and it appeared that we would not agree so I walked away. Then two sisters approached me and were grouping kissing me from either side (these two became a constant with me one was called Helen and they were there every night - very tall). However they were not what I wanted (you get choosy in there) and I did in fact take Nancy back for the original price and she was great. Two rounds great attitide no hassle and still luked cute to me in the morning.

Nex day early evening I took a taxi to Simmers after dark. Two mistakes here - firstly that even though it was after dark in fact there were plenty of people around and was safe enough to walk. Secondly I was stupid enough to not suss out how close it was from my apartment - two minutes walk. The taxi driver drove around the block a few times to justify his 500 KES charge!!! My fault. Any how I didn't rate Simmers in terms of quality girls (the sisters were there) and aslo the food was crap so stayed for a couple then went back to Madhouse and eventually left with another one for 2500 who did not disappoint.

Decided to have a quietish night next so just went to Madhouse again and didn't drink much as the Ashes started that night and I was shagged out. At 2.45 i was sat on a girls lap, her tongue on my neck and in my ears, one hand in my shirt and pinching my nipples, the other down my trousers wanking me. By 3.00 I was in my room alone listening to TMS when Strauss went 3rd ball and I was full of regrets!! By the way this was Wednesday and it was bloody full and really hot.

Tomorrow is another day and I got more adventurous - picked up some Cialis and Viagra (which was easy in a chemist) to ensure I could make the most of my last few days and eventually made contact with someone from Affro who I agreed to meet later that night. Ate at Pizza Garden and not really somewhere I would return. Decided to have a couple of early beers at Simmers for a laugh and managed to get a seat at the bar - rejected the advances and waited for theAffro girl to call - she finally postponed to the next night so decided to try the orginal Florida - it was so dead. Checked out the strip joint also but that was crap too. There was one girl I chatted back to in the club which , with hindsight I should have taken home. But I thought I would get better in Madhouse so headed back there. Was pretty pissed by this stage and hardened to the scene. Around daybreak I agreed to take a couple back who were into each other also. Was fine at first but after the deed it all got a bit nasty between them to the extent that I threatened to call security - overall this was a night to forget.

Next day I met the Affro girl and was so please - she was bloody hot. And she tookk me to a few different places. Started off at Trattoria (an Italian in town) and is a good place to sit out on the balcony and watch the world go by. Then cocktails on a really posh hotel around the corner. A decent meal in a restaurant/bar at a shopping centre in Westlands, to Black Diamond which had some hot girls after 11 or 12 on a Friday. A couple of other clubs whose names i completely forget, then back to mine. She was the hottest girl I saw there and will keep in contact just in case I return. Next day went to Gypsys to watch rugby - there were some hot girls there but I had had my head turned by Black Diamond so went there - mistake. Should have stayed and taken someone from Gypsys. BD was crap so ended up back at Madhouse and took Nancy again - no regrets.

Last day spent with the Affro chick.

Overall I had mixed feelings about Nairobi - if I return I would do a couple of nights there and head to the beach as I found it a bit uninspiring in daylight. Next time I would check out the higher end clubs and use Madhouse as a last resort. Good fum, some great girls, Afro came up trumps and was not expensive.

[QUOTE=LustyHombre]No need to apologize , Mjuaji . Whatever motivates you should be of no concern to any 3rd party : if your fancy gets tickled , you pay whatever you feel is appropriate , and that is it . Period .

I'd feel guilty as hell ![/QUOTE]My opinion:

If it is of no concern of a third party, what you think is an appreciative pay, don't post, everyone has a right express an opinion, and discuss.

I'd feel guilty ass hell too, when I'd see the poverty level in most areas compared with malayas being paid half a month minimum wage in one hour, remember, also unemployment in Kenya is 40%, means no income at all.

If it is out of compassion or generosity that makes you open your wallet, sure there are better goals you can support in this country.

No malaya choose to be a malaya, some have good education, can't find a job. Others drop out of school, selling your body makes a better income. It is from which perspective you look at "whatever you feel is appropriate".

Some malayas have a better income than a surgeon, so why finish school?

Money helps and damages this society. It is where you spend money which makes the difference.

Pay reasonable, most important, there is more to it than money only, treat malayas reasonable.

The atmosphere is getting spoiled by mzungus who pay too much, and mzungus who can't behave, girls are getting scared.

[QUOTE=Mjuaji2003;1098846]I went there for the 150/- boozes in a quiet homely environment with a fireplace and nice company instead of some chaotic bar. I didn't go for the sex. 3,000/- an hr is outrageous.[/QUOTE]Mjuaji, recommended this place and sounds perfect for my needs. Can't bring ladies back to the hotel because of conference but looking for a place that has a good selection of girls where one can chat and have the action on the premise. Any other ideas would be much appreciated.

Cheers.

MD

[QUOTE=Jamie69;1099781]Nex day early evening I took a taxi to Simmers after dark. Two mistakes here - firstly that even though it was after dark in fact there were plenty of people around and was safe enough to walk. Secondly I was stupid enough to not suss out how close it was from my apartment - two minutes walk. The taxi driver drove around the block a few times to justify his 500 KES charge!!! My fault. [/QUOTE]It is always highly recommendable to go by taxi after dark, even if it is just a two minutes walk! However, next time agree on the rate before you take the cab! For sure you will not make the same mistake twice! Anyway, think positive! Although you paid too much, but you had at least a safe trip!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Mad Dog65; 1100987]Mjuaji, recommended this place and sounds perfect for my needs. Can't bring ladies back to the hotel because of conference but looking for a place that has a good selection of girls where one can chat and have the action on the premise. Any other ideas would be much appreciated.

Cheers.

MD[/QUOTE]It's at 70 Peponi Road, Spring Valley, near the OilLibya station. Any good local driver should find the place.

[QUOTE=Expat Kenya; 1100030]My opinion:

If it is of no concern of a third party, what you think is an appreciative pay, don't post, everyone has a right express an opinion, and discuss.

I'd feel guilty ass hell too, when I'd see the poverty level in most areas compared with malayas being paid half a month minimum wage in one hour, remember, also unemployment in Kenya is 40, means no income at all.

If it is out of compassion or generosity that makes you open your wallet, sure there are better goals you can support in this country.

No malaya choose to be a malaya, some have good education, can't find a job. Others drop out of school, selling your body makes a better income. It is from which perspective you look at "whatever you feel is appropriate".

Some malayas have a better income than a surgeon, so why finish school?

Money helps and damages this society. It is where you spend money which makes the difference.

Pay reasonable, most important, there is more to it than money only, treat malayas reasonable.

The atmosphere is getting spoiled by mzungus who pay too much, and mzungus who can't behave, girls are getting scared. [/QUOTE]I actually sponsor a few high school kids. I pay max 24000 a year directly to the school and then the parents pay me 2000 a month interest-free. I insist on no-frills rural schools and end-term academic reports.

I meet one girl. Working in Mgongo inn (hotel restaurant) Work from 8am till 12 pm. One workingday. Than one day free. Salery 6000ksh / month.

Her friend work in 2 sifts. From 8am till 4pm, or from 4pm to 12pm. Work evryday (6/7) Salery 4000ksh / month.

It is not surpriced that this girls running like fouls after mzungus.

Insite this local place. Tusker 110ksh, soda 40ksh

[QUOTE=Mjuaji2003;1101360]I actually sponsor a few high school kids. I pay max 24000 a year directly to the school and then the parents pay me 2000 a month interest-free. I insist on no-frills rural schools and end-term academic reports.[/QUOTE]Thats the way to do it Mjuaji! Imagine a high school kid can be helped with kes 2000 a month (no-frills rural schools). Money well spend, even if it is a loan.

Money spent for malaya mostly goes to the bars, breweries and boyfriends.

I don't say malayas shouldn't be paid, but there are better ways to help people out of poverty for as little as kes 2000 a month!

Before deciding on Momasa for my January mongering jaunt, Kampala was in contention.

And as is my won't I struck up superficial relationships with a number of women on Afrointroductions from both regions.

Before the flames begin of:

A."Why would you waste your time on Afro when any girl can be had for the asking?" (Answer: Because I believe. And I have no evidence to support this conjecture other than my anecdotal experience. That the Afro population self-selects for a relatively higher level of sophistication and offers an option for less-work-intensive pre-score schmoozing of this sub-group)

And.

B."What you see on Afro is not the in-person reality, moron." (Answer: I know, but often it is and see point a.)

I would like to share a rather remarkable impression I am getting of lovely and much more uniformly open and sexual invitation among the Kampala girls, harking back to what LH alluded to in his recent post about the attitude of Ugandan women.

It appears I can be exceedingly frank about my preferences for threesomes and sexual submission with them in a way which, to date, has brought not a single comment of:

"I am strictly a one-man woman dearie and I expect the same from my man."

"The Lord didn't intend man to lay with man or woman to lay with woman, dear."

Etc, comments I not infrequently receive while cybering up Ghanaian, Ethiopian (especially Ethiopian) and Kenyan ladies.

They mostly write that they will be happy to be my guide and companion while I am in Kampala and that they will be happy to accommodate me to the best of their ability.

Bullshit? Patter? A real reflection of a more fundamentally flexible attitude in the face of the grim prospect and dirty business of finding a man to whisk them away? Cultural / tribal differences resulting in a more submissive inclination? Strictly luck of the draw and without any statistical inferability?

P. S. A note to Jackson. As a fellow stickler for proper punctuation and a grammarian like yourself, you should know that since you changed your server / software, there is a sort of fascistic spell / grammar-check in effect which works to the detriment of expository writing.

For example, in the above post I have tried to convince your software that I really do want the word "won't" WITHOUT an apostrophe (I. E."tendency" or "inclination") , but your server is convinced I am a dolt and mean to type the contraction of "will not."

Also, periods and capitalizations are imposed ruthlessly and inappropriately, hyphens removed and replaced by punctuational nonsense.

I should think this would irritate you no end. It does me.

[QUOTE=Willyboy; 1102951]I meet one girl. Working in Mgongo inn (hotel restaurant) Work from 8am till 12 pm. One workingday. Than one day free. Salery 6000ksh / month.

Her friend work in 2 sifts. From 8am till 4pm, or from 4pm to 12pm. Work evryday (6/7) Salery 4000ksh / month.

It is not surpriced that this girls running like fouls after mzungus.

Insite this local place. Tusker 110ksh, soda 40ksh[/QUOTE]Thank you Willyboy. Am always happy to know actual prices / salaries.

[QUOTE=Satyr9; 1105674]P. S. A note to Jackson. As a fellow stickler for proper punctuation and a grammarian like yourself, you should know that since you changed your server / software, there is a sort of fascistic spell / grammar-check in effect which works to the detriment of expository writing.

For example, in the above post I have tried to convince your software that I really do want the word "won't" WITHOUT an apostrophe (I. E."tendency" or "inclination") , but your server is convinced I am a dolt and mean to type the contraction of "will not."

Also, periods and capitalizations are imposed ruthlessly and inappropriately, hyphens removed and replaced by punctuational nonsense.

I should think this would irritate you no end. It does me.[/QUOTE]I have similar beef : I always like to make a distinction between an absolute statement (which is supposed to end with a period or an exclamation mark, if I remember right) and what I'd like to call a "trailing thought" which would apply in situations where I don't (yet) have a strong opinion. I like to end my trailing thoughts with multiple periods (.) to indicate that I feel somewhat ambivalent about what I just said, but that gets always "corrected" on ISG to a single period.

2. : I like to hyphenate as well, but that always seems to be a red flag to ISG's "Grammar Nazi"

3. We were taught in GrammarSchool that you use " I. E." in order to explain something in greater detail. The ISG spell checker, without fail, changes that to "I. E" which according to my old Latin teacher just ain't the same.

In any case. And never mind grammar and interpunctation irritants. I'd encourage you to check out the scene in Kampala before you visit MBA. There ain't much likelyhood that the super hot Uganda girls who I met in MBA are the only ones reared in that culture.

[QUOTE=LustyHombre; 1105765.

In any case. And never mind grammar and interpunctation irritants. I'd encourage you to check out the scene in Kampala before you visit MBA. There ain't much likelyhood that the super hot Uganda girls who I met in MBA are the only ones reared in that culture. [/QUOTE]11 days until Mombasa.

Anyway, I like the beach, too. Lake Victoria won't cut it.

I was in Nairobi a few months ago and am going back in a few weeks.

After research here I went to Simmers where due to being a relatively early bird I ultimately found all my partners.

I also tried Madhouse which was very quiet but I guess as the latest I was there was 11:30 I was probably too early.

Now although Simmers was not crawling with top totty, with a bit of patience I always seemed to find one that was in my opinion very attractive. Quite a few University girls seem to hang out here.

My question is though, what are people referring to as stunners as a lot of people say you cannot find them at Simmers but they some seemed stunnig to me.

Also if you don't want to stay up until dawn (I am working) what is the top suggested places to go?

Can anybody recommend anywhere to play golf around Nairobi where you can hire clubs and possibly hire a caddie?

Well everyone is talking about the pitfalls of Mombasa. I have to say the girls and the establishments in Nairobi for me have tended to be more mercernary and prone to tricks. I have had to be more on my guard in Nairobi and had to deal with more angles and agendas. I know these girls tend to travel around a bit but life in Nairobi seems to be more complicated for them and us. Maybe their boyfriends tend to lean on them more for money at home in Nairobi as to when they are hiding the sausage with clients at the beach!

Since we are on the topic of dangers and annoyances in the Mombasa thread, I thought that I would also add a story about what I think was a pretty close call for myself in Nairobi once.

On my way back home from Mombasa I unexpectedly found myself with a 14 hour layover in Nairobi and I was going to be there between about 10 in the morning until midnight. Wanting to take advantage of this extra time in Kenya I decided to head into town, and arranged a hotel for myself as well. Forget the name of the hotel now, but it was a hotel that I think catered mainly to local business men and it was located close to the bus terminal.

Being still a bit tired from my last evening in Mombasa, I thought that I would stroll around a bit to see how the neighbourhood looked like and see if I could find a girl to play with. Was not in a big rush, but was hoping to have some lunch and then worse come to worst then I would bite the bullet and overpay by letting a taxi driver hook me up.

Got hustled a bit, but mainly to buy bus tickets since I was not in a touristy area. However, after a few minutes of walking I did come to what seemed to be more the center of town so there were more mzungus around. Decided to sit down for a cup of coffee to get out of the heat, so went into a cafe and got a coffee and some sort of sandwich. It was pretty crowded in the place, and after a while a well dressed black man came up and asked if he could share my table. This is not too unusual if you are by yourself in a restaurant at lunch time and holding up a table for two by yourself and the place is full, so said that that was no problem.

We struck up a conversation, and he was very well spoken and educated, and after having spent the past several days only having conversations with malayas, taxi drivers, and drunken mzungus it was actually quite good to have an educated conversation with someone. We talked about Kenya, Africa, his work, my work, how my trip had been over about half an hour while we drank our coffee. He asked a few questions about what I was doing in Nairobi (mistake here, I told him the truth that I was here for a layover only, but did not feel that I needed to lie to someone that was a decent person) , I had also told him where I was staying at, where I was from, my nationality, what work I actually do (mistake again, identifying yourself as having money). But anyway, I was having a normal conversation like you might have anywhere in the world and didn't feel the need to lie.

As we had both finished our coffees and food, and he had mentioned that he was a teacher, he asked that the children in his class often write letters to people in other countries and enjoy receiving responses with a few post cards, some local items from that country, etc and if they could write to me. I thought "why not, that's not too much effort" and agreed and wrote down my address on a piece of paper and gave it to him.

When he put the note in his pocket, all of a sudden two very nasty looking characters sat down at our table. Almost like out of a movie, one of them even had a big knife scar across his face and over his eye. They declared themselves to be the "military police" and that the other chap was arrested and should come with them for being an illegal immigrant. One of them "took him away" and the other one stayed seated and "questioned" me and also handed me his "police identification".

I had realised at this point that I had been set up, but my brain was racing with what to do so I mildly played along with the questioning. Then the other "military police" officer returned and announced that they had found 150 grams of cocaine on the guy they had just arrested, and I needed to explain why my address was in his pocket next to the drugs. I was panicking a bit here. I knew this was a scam, but I thought that they would actually try to bundle me into their car at this point, and these guys were both a head taller than me and some very tough guys so I couldn't really expect to do a Steven Seagal and make my escape from them if they did this, nor expect help from anyone in the cafe either for that matter. I thought about making a runner, decided against it, then about screaming for someone to call the police, decided against it, and as my mind is racing how I am going to get out of this situation I kept trying to stay calm and pretend to be a naive tourist.

They asked me if I did the job I had told the other guy I did. I tried to play it of by saying that I had just tried to sound impressive, I was working in the post room of that company. They asked if I was leaving that day, I said that had been a lie since I didn't want the guy to suggest we should hang out, I was staying a few more days in Nairobi following a safari, and was now heading to Mombasa to enjoy the beach. They looked a bit disappointed at this.

After a while the second "military police" officer left the table, and the other "military police" officer went into a long monologue about how dangerous illegal immigrants were in Kenya and that they needed to protect the tourists from them and so on. Quickly I realised that he was for some reason stalling for time, and then I understood that he would not try to lead me out of a crowded place by himself but was waiting for his friend to return with some real (although corrupt) police officers. I decided to make my move, stood up, shook his hand and said that "it is lucky that men like you keep us safe from these illegal immigrants. Thank you very much for looking out for my safety." Then I walked away.

After I had walked two blocks for some reason I felt that I was being followed. Don't know why, and maybe I watch too many movies, but decided to zig-zag it back through the streets to my hotel. After a few minutes of this I realised that I had actually told the guy which hotel I was staying at and maybe they would try to meet me there with a uniformed policeman. I had a camera full of nude pics and movie clips of all sorts of sex action, plus a bunch of sex toys, so even if they couldn't get me for this "drugs charge" they sure could get me for that if they searched my room.

Took the quickest route back to the hotel at this point, and ran up the stairs to my room, threw my things into my bag and then ran down the stairs again in the space of probably about two minutes. The hotel receptionist looked shocked when I ran passed and shouted is everything ok? I had already pre-paid my room, so shouted back that "everything is fine, but managed to get on an earlier flight so need to rush back to the airport". Looked in both directions as I exited the hotel, naturally no taxis, but then quickly found one. Then breathed a huge sigh of relief as the taxi rounded the corner and drove away from the hotel.

So, instead of a nice lunch followed by an afternoon of banging one or two Nairobi hotties in my hotel I spent this time sitting at the little bar out at the airport drinking Tuskers and reading a book. Was still quite shaken up so kept looking around for the police so wasn't actually at that point yet upset about doing something a lot less nice than I had planned to be doing. After all, drinking beer and reading a book in the shade is nice, but that is not what I wanted to do on that particular afternoon.

Freaked out a bit as I went through passport control, probably unnecessary since don't think they would have tried to continue their scam at the airport and they didn't know about all the naughty pics and vids I had in my bags.

So, this goes to show the wisdom of never telling anyone your name, where you stay at, what work you do, where you come from, how much money you have, when you are leaving the country and so on like I posted about in the Mombasa thread before. There are some really good scammers out there, that's for sure!

Last note, the reason that you never tell anyone that you are leaving that day (or when you are leaving) is that if someone is planning to do a police scam on you then they know that you will panic if you are only hours away from missing a USD 800 flight and will be willing to bribe yourself out of the situation much easier than otherwise.

I came across this blog, supposedly written by a Nairobi hooker, working on Koinange Street with stories about the adventures of a working girl in Nairobi.

If it's really written by the girl she must have at least an university education, looking at the style and the "philosophies" of the short stories.

On the other hand it might come from a clever journalist (or probably ghost-writer) , also because it seems to be a somehow commercial undertaking, as one can subscribe to the stories, listen to audio-clips or even order an "E-book", all for money of course, all be it just a few shillings.

The stories are entertaining though.

[url]http://www.nairobinights.co.cc/2011/01/episode-6-why-should-i-not-open-my-legs.html[/url]

A very good account from 'Fun and Sun' of the potential pitfalls in Nairobi. I have had similar situations when sitting alone eating a meal or having a drink in Nairobi.

If somebody says Hello, I will be polite to people and only carry on the conversation, if it is a good looking woman! Men stand no chance because I am in Kenya on love safari and men don't come into that equation. If guys try and sit at the same table, I always tell them that friends are about to arrive and I need the table. Yes, I know as we have heard the girls are invariably up to something as well but there is 50% less chance of me being scammed. Blunt and to the point but has probably saved me from many scams in my search for nirvana with the ultimate hottie.

Anyway, on a lighter note some of us must have had some great exploits to recount recently instead of all of this doom and gloom.

[QUOTE=Zimzam; 1108923]I came across this blog, supposedly written by a Nairobi hooker, working on Koinange Street with stories about the adventures of a working girl in Nairobi.

If it's really written by the girl she must have at least an university education, looking at the style and the "philosophies" of the short stories.

On the other hand it might come from a clever journalist (or probably ghost-writer) , also because it seems to be a somehow commercial undertaking, as one can subscribe to the stories, listen to audio-clips or even order an "E-book", all for money of course, all be it just a few shillings.

The stories are entertaining though.

[url]http://www.nairobinights.co.cc/2011/01/episode-6-why-should-i-not-open-my-legs.html[/url]

[/QUOTE]Well spotted, very good tales of the night. I think every member should read the seven tales. This reminds me of 'Belle de Jour, diaries of a call girl' serialised in a newspaper, a book and two series on the television back home. Based on a working girl in London paying her way through medical school. The publishing house like your Kenyan girl will have had a ghost writer to add that extra 'je ne sais quoi! 'The media at the time were desperate to find out the girl's real identity, while many normal girls found that the oldest profession in the world was more attractive than they orignally thought!

I hope the girl in this case makes something out of it because when I walk to Madhouse, I pass those girls on Koinange St and it is definitely not the upper end of the business, in a really quite menacing environment.

[QUOTE=Jbond; 1109006]Well spotted, very good tales of the night. I think every member should read the seven tales. This reminds me of 'Belle de Jour, diaries of a call girl' serialised in a newspaper, a book and two series on the television back home. Based on a working girl in London paying her way through medical school. The publishing house like your Kenyan girl will have had a ghost writer to add that extra 'je ne sais quoi! 'The media at the time were desperate to find out the girl's real identity, while many normal girls found that the oldest profession in the world was more attractive than they orignally thought!

I hope the girl in this case makes something out of it because when I walk to Madhouse, I pass those girls on Koinange St and it is definitely not the upper end of the business, in a really quite menacing environment. [/QUOTE]I liked the expression such as referring to a pro as : "dealers in horizontal refreshments"

[QUOTE=Zimzam; 1108923]I came across this blog, supposedly written by a Nairobi hooker, working on Koinange Street with stories about the adventures of a working girl in Nairobi.

If it's really written by the girl she must have at least an university education, looking at the style and the "philosophies" of the short stories.

On the other hand it might come from a clever journalist (or probably ghost-writer) , also because it seems to be a somehow commercial undertaking, as one can subscribe to the stories, listen to audio-clips or even order an "E-book", all for money of course, all be it just a few shillings.

The stories are entertaining though.

[url]http://www.nairobinights.co.cc/2011/01/episode-6-why-should-i-not-open-my-legs.html[/url]

[/QUOTE]Nice find. Thanks for the link!

Episode 6 should be made compulsory readin for every aspiring Captain Save-a-Hoe.

Bless

If any senior members are around and want to meet, please let me know.

Kind regards,

Arthur

[QUOTE=Satyr9; 1105674][snip]

P. S. A note to Jackson. As a fellow stickler for proper punctuation and a grammarian like yourself, you should know that since you changed your server / software, there is a sort of fascistic spell / grammar-check in effect which works to the detriment of expository writing.

For example, in the above post I have tried to convince your software that I really do want the word "won't" WITHOUT an apostrophe (I. E."tendency" or "inclination") , but your server is convinced I am a dolt and mean to type the contraction of "will not."

[snip]

[/QUOTE][QUOTE=LustyHombre; 1105765]I have similar beef : I always like to make a distinction between an absolute statement (which is supposed to end with a period or an exclamation mark, if I remember right) and what I'd like to call a "trailing thought" which would apply in situations where I don't (yet) have a strong opinion. I like to end my trailing thoughts with multiple periods (.) to indicate that I feel somewhat ambivalent about what I just said, but that gets always "corrected" on ISG to a single period.

2. : I like to hyphenate as well, but that always seems to be a red flag to ISG's "Grammar Nazi"

3. We were taught in GrammarSchool that you use " I. E." in order to explain something in greater detail. The ISG spell checker, without fail, changes that to "I. E" which according to my old Latin teacher just ain't the same.

In any case. And never mind grammar and interpunctation irritants. I'd encourage you to check out the scene in Kampala before you visit MBA. There ain't much likelyhood that the super hot Uganda girls who I met in MBA are the only ones reared in that culture. [/QUOTE]Yes, it's sad that the quality of the forum software has deteriorated so much with the new [i]vBulletin™ Version 4. 1.0[/i]. I'm glad I didn't renew my ISG subscription!

However, there is a work around for some of the Nazi spell check madness: Insert some BB Code to break up the character sequence.

- Won[i][/i]t.

- "trailing thought". [i][/i]. [i][/i]. (Here the Nazi spell check will insert an extra space, but you still get the multiple periods.)

Click 'Reply With Quote' to see how it's done.

Cheers,

Barri

Hi I will be in Nairobi on 1st Feb if any body intrested in drinking and hunting with please PM me:0

Hi, I am in a real hurru and no time to scroll through all the old postings. So please, what is generally considered to be the best, girl-friendly, mid-priced, reasonably central hotel / apartments in nairobi. Many thanks. I will have more time to read and post when I get there.

Whizzkid

Prices starting from 90$, very central, walking distance from All hot spots. Large apartments, secure access, not newly built but accommodating.

Kind regards.

Arthur

[QUOTE=WhizzKid; 1111280]Hi, I am in a real hurru and no time to scroll through all the old postings. So please, what is generally considered to be the best, girl-friendly, mid-priced, reasonably central hotel / apartments in nairobi. Many thanks. I will have more time to read and post when I get there.

Whizzkid[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WhizzKid; 1111280]Hi, I am in a real hurru and no time to scroll through all the old postings. So please, what is generally considered to be the best, girl-friendly, mid-priced, reasonably central hotel / apartments in nairobi. Many thanks. I will have more time to read and post when I get there.

Whizzkid[/QUOTE]Chesterhouse

Since these hotels have not been mentioned, do I assume they are not GF? ALso, does anyone else have a GF hotel besides the Chester House? I have RTFF, but not much in there about this, and the last time I was in Nairobi it cost me almost double to bring in company!

[QUOTE=Medic34;1111437]Since these hotels have not been mentioned, do I assume they are not GF? ALso, does anyone else have a GF hotel besides the Chester House? I have RTFF, but not much in there about this, and the last time I was in Nairobi it cost me almost double to bring in company![/QUOTE]I used that last time I was here a few years ago and it was great, very GF with at least 3 different ways in. However prices seem to have gone through the roof there now.

Whizzkid

[QUOTE=Arthur66; 1111324]Prices starting from 90$, very central, walking distance from All hot spots. Large apartments, secure access, not newly built but accommodating.

Kind regards.

Arthur[/QUOTE]90 dollar evry day for accomodation. This is not possibel for evrybody.

Chester does seem favourite for location and price. Would like cheaper but cannot find anything central. Does anyone know of any good self-catering apartments for rent in central nairobi?

[QUOTE=Arthur66; 1111324]Prices starting from 90$, very central, walking distance from All hot spots. Large apartments, secure access, not newly built but accommodating.

Kind regards.

Arthur[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zimzam; 1108923]I came across this blog, supposedly written by a Nairobi hooker, working on Koinange Street with stories about the adventures of a working girl in Nairobi.

If it's really written by the girl she must have at least an university education, looking at the style and the "philosophies" of the short stories.

On the other hand it might come from a clever journalist (or probably ghost-writer) , also because it seems to be a somehow commercial undertaking, as one can subscribe to the stories, listen to audio-clips or even order an "E-book", all for money of course, all be it just a few shillings.

The stories are entertaining though.

[url]http://www.nairobinights.co.cc/2011/01/episode-6-why-should-i-not-open-my-legs.html[/url][/QUOTE]I see our working girl has posted again with a couple of episodes.

[url]www.nairobinights.co.cc[/url]

[QUOTE=Jbond; 1112998]I see our working girl has posted again with a couple of episodes.

[url]www.nairobinights.co.cc[/url][/QUOTE]I'm going to have to call "bull shit" on this nairobi nights girl. I think that it's just someone trying to cash in on the trend for working girls to write autobiographies after that one girl in London made a tonne of money from her Belle de Jour book and TV series which resulted in several working girls writing similar books.

Would make me laugh if, as part of her research, she reads ISG, LOL.

I have gotten e-mails from loads of malayas, and their writing abilities are far below this nairobi nights girl. Most of them struggle with spelling and complete sentences. This girl has at least a basic university degree, and I think that even an English major would have better career options than being a malaya in Kenya.

All IMHO naturally.

Kenyan born and' bred. Anyone requiring a flexible available wingman (In Nairobi. But also luv's Mombasa) please get in-touch. I enjoy sharing travel experiences (Not that I have much!)

[QUOTE=Fun And Sun; 1113620]I'm going to have to call "bull shit" on this nairobi nights girl. I think that it's just someone trying to cash in on the trend for working girls to write autobiographies after that one girl in London made a tonne of money from her Belle de Jour book and TV series which resulted in several working girls writing similar books.

Would make me laugh if, as part of her research, she reads ISG, LOL.

I have gotten e-mails from loads of malayas, and their writing abilities are far below this nairobi nights girl. Most of them struggle with spelling and complete sentences. This girl has at least a basic university degree, and I think that even an English major would have better career options than being a malaya in Kenya.

All IMHO naturally. [/QUOTE]You are so right, just what I was thinking!

ISG has been infiltrated.

The clear evidence points to her call sign being 'Expat Kenya' with the material written by a ghost writer.

Except she seems to favour Mzungus!

I recently spent another great week in Nairobi, and it is time for me to report back.

This post is dedicated to a particular audience. Western white colleagues facing Nairobi for the first time. It is not a guideline for locals (they know much better than anybody else) and the rules applicable to them are different than those applicable to a muzungu. Being a white, European monger for the second time in Kenya, and having available local knowledge (Kenyan colleagues) , I thought to provide some guidelines, based on what I know and what I experienced.

First, the facts.

Arrived on Sunday afternoon, and went more or less straight to Simmers, a place where I found unconditional fun last time I was there. Got a beer, sat down, and started to look around. As usual, within 10 minutes a girl approached me, Julie. Small. 27 why / o (she said) , one child, definitely drunk. Started to chat, good vibes.

She was not a stunner by all means, but I had a good feeling about her. She was not in for business, and my attempts to gather an offer did not result in much of a result. She seemed to like me, and she wanted to spend the night with a muzungu (white guy) , even for free. We went back to my place, Chester House, walking (that is why I have chosen the place, walking distance, no taxi needed). Harassed on the way by the usual beggars (women with children on their back) , but I could not care less, they are harmless. Spent the night with her, and paid her with a kiss and a promise to be back with her later in the week.

On Monday, back to Simmers, found Julie back, this time more sober. Same story, this time agreed on a 1500 KES, good sex. She provides a decent BBBJ, and she is a hot little woman.

On Tuesday, a different girl approached me, younger and more attractive. I made a mistake there, did not negotiate fees in advance. She was disappointing. Only CBJ on offer, hot body, she came a number of times (soaked my couch) , and wanted 3000 KES in the morning. Paid her and got rid of her presence, not to repeat.

On Wednesday I went back to Simmers, but did not find anything of my liking. I was not in the right mood, probably a bit spent after three nights of fun. I decided to check out Madhouse, also at walking distance. 300 KES entrance, loud music, hard pro's inside. A few stunning women around, did not investigate offers, and I was not approached. Left after a while, Madhouse is not the place for me.

On Thursday went back to Simmers, Julie again, another night of good, relaxed fun with her. Julie does not come easily, she likes DATY but not to finish. She came a couple of times in cowgirls though. The big advantage of girls like Julie is that they do not break my balls, do not try to cheat or steal, and they keep me warm at night.

On Friday, last evening, I was approached by Lena. What a woman! Hot body, excellent BBBJ, she enjoyed sex as much as I did. She wanted to be taken on the couch in mish, than on the carpet, than back on the couch doggy style, than in bed. I do not know how many time she came, but the apartment was smelling of us violently in the morning. At a certain moment she begged me to finish, after three straight hours of hard fuck. She offered a CIM, which I gladly accepted. Damage 1000 for taxi and 1000 for her, all well deserved.

A few things that I observed and wish to share, especially dedicated to fellow westerner mongers not experienced with the local scene:

1. Nairobi centre is safe. Beggars are the only noticeable nuisance, but I never felt threatened.

2. Simmers girls are not freebies and not pro, somewhere in the middle. They are in for money, but if they do not find anybody they are happy to spend the night drinking beer and chatting.

3. Girls have a relaxed approach to safe sex. Both Julie and Lena made it clear that to have a raw muzungu dick inside them wasn't a problem. At all. I obviously declined, but you must be aware of this matter.

4. All girls at Simmers have some fascinating story to tell. Most of them say they have a job (even a shop of their own) , and present themselves as 'I like you, I love you, you are so funny and handsome'. I discounted all their stories at 100, and I advise you to do the same. IMHO, lying and bullshitting is an art in Kenya and in Africa as a whole, just do not believe anything you hear from them. The funny thing is that they know you know they are BS you. On the other side, if you have a story on your own, you would know they know you are BS them. But as long as both know of the BS of the other, there is no problem. It almost feels as a undeclared competition on who has the most original BS to tell, keeping a straight face and without making it feel too real. I found it fascinating.

5. On the topic Simmers v. Madhouse, my take is that it depends on what you want. I like Simmers because it has a 'local' sphere, with very few muzungus around. Which is great for me, as the competition is low. Madhouse is more artificial, more expensive, and frequented by both whites and affluent locals. Girls are dressed to kill, but I suspect they are after money as first, second and third priority. Simmers girls like to have a muzungu, while Madhouse girls like to have the muzungu money. And at Madhouse, if you are not dressed up in style, there is a fair chance nobody will approach you. That means you have to approach them, putting yourself in a weak negotiating position.

6. Girls are not used to long sex sessions. Their way of lovemaking is passionate but short. Local guys, they told me, are able to have two-three orgasms per night, so they do not really care about spreading out sex for more than 10-15 minutes each time. Girls, after being loved for 30 minutes maximum, having a few orgasms (they cum easy) , expects you to shoot your load and fall asleep. Sex is considered, in general, as a time where she gets pounded without too many compliments for a little time until he comes. For muzungus like myself, used to completely different requirements from white girls (the longer the sex the better the lover) could find it difficult to cope with a girl who, after less than one hour altogether (arrival to the room to him orgasming) , feels like a train has hit her. Completely wasted and a bit shocked. While the hell are you not cumming? It is difficult to understand for them that, for me as well as for many other men, lovemaking is a pleasure in itself.

7. If you like anal sex, be aware that local girls in general do not even know what is it. Let's stay liking it or even trying it. After much sweet talking, I eventually convinced Lena to get a DATY with a bit of a finger in her butt (a technique that delivers incredible female orgasms when mastered) , but that was already unheard of, and felt strange to her. And if you like refined oral skills, you got to be lucky. However, they get 'hot' easily, enjoy preliminaries (deep and very wet kissing, and boy, they can kiss!) , and are enthusiastic lovers. They can take a well-endowed man, full power, without a winch. As long as it does not last too long each time.

8. At Simmers I found that the best technique is to be chosen v. Choose a girl. Because they are not hard pros, they do not necessarily fall for the dress, the shoes or the watch you wear. Or in other words, they are not necessarily looking for a rich guy. As a muzungu, I was at the top of the food chain anyway (all girls wants to have a white lover at least once) , so if you are like me, just sit and wait. A few uglies will approach you, asking for a beer, a cigarette, or just money from you. Just say no and they will eventually leave you in peace.

9. Do not treat them as hookers. Do not talk explicitly of money for sex, and do not refer to their 'business'. In their mind, they are not hookers, and you are not exactly a customer. If you want to know what they expect from you, ask her how much would they like as taxi contribution and as a small sign of appreciation (a small gift for her. Means money, but without talking about money). You will get a figure, say 2000-3000 KES, and that will indicatively become the price per night. Beware however, no business is ever carved in stone in Africa. It is possible that the day after additional 'gifts' will be requested. Keep some spare change at hand.

10. Take into account that, for westerner standards, Nairobi scene is cheap. One Euro is 100 KES, so 3000 KES (a lot of money for a local girl) is just about 30 EURO. In Kenya there is a difference between local and gringo prices, as in all developing countries. If you are white, you are automatically rich. If you present yourself as, say, an English and a tourist, expect the level of gifts to go up. Kenyan girls are not stupid.

11. While cheap in comparison to developed countries, you (as western guy) must consider that you cannot spoil the market for locals, even if you can easily afford a 10. 000 KES shag. Keep prices down. One way of doing it (the way I used) is to present yourself as coming from a 'strange' country (I chose Singapore) , in Nairobi looking for a job (means unemployed and penniless) , and negotiating from there. It worked nicely for me. After all, if they tell you stories (like I love you baby after 10 minutes of pointless conversation) you can do the same, can't you?

12. Be nice to people, it is highly appreciated and it will reward you. There is a lot of cheating and lying going on, but it belongs to the environment. Find the right girl, and you will find a hot lover available to spend the night with you every night, for a modest compensation, and with a lot of fun for both.

13. Be prudent. Nairobi centre is not dangerous, but if you get wasted on local beer (Tusker, it is stronger than it seems) , walk around in confusional state, and drop your guard, it is almost guaranteed somebody will try to abuse the situation. Either scamming or stealing. Prepare your scene well, hide your belongings, avoid taxis if you can walk to and from destination, or negotiate taxi fares in advance. Nairobi is not London or Hamburg, all business agreements are about how fool the one is v. The other. So try to look as smart, experienced, and in the know as you can.

Concluding, I had a lot of fun in Nairobi, and I could easily consider the place as my 'retirement' option. I genuinely like local people, and I find local women much more feminine than the spoiled, neurotic, and high-maintenance 'ladies' in Europe. Kenyan girls DO like sex, even within a P4P situation.

I hope these few recollections can be of use.

Kind regards,

Arthur

[QUOTE=Arthur66; 1114448]I recently spent another great week in Nairobi, and it is time for me to report back.

This post is dedicated to a particular audience. Western white colleagues facing Nairobi for the first time. It is not a guideline for locals (they know much better than anybody else) and the rules applicable to them are different than those applicable to a muzungu. Being a white, European monger for the second time in Kenya, and having available local knowledge (Kenyan colleagues) , I thought to provide some guidelines, based on what I know and what I experienced.

First, the facts.

Arrived on Sunday afternoon, and went more or less straight to Simmers, a place where I found unconditional fun last time I was there. Got a beer, sat down, and started to look around. As usual, within 10 minutes a girl approached me, Julie. Small. 27 why / o (she said) , one child, definitely drunk. Started to chat, good vibes.

She was not a stunner by all means, but I had a good feeling about her. She was not in for business, and my attempts to gather an offer did not result in much of a result. She seemed to like me, and she wanted to spend the night with a muzungu (white guy) , even for free. We went back to my place, Chester House, walking (that is why I have chosen the place, walking distance, no taxi needed). Harassed on the way by the usual beggars (women with children on their back) , but I could not care less, they are harmless. Spent the night with her, and paid her with a kiss and a promise to be back with her later in the week.

On Monday, back to Simmers, found Julie back, this time more sober. Same story, this time agreed on a 1500 KES, good sex. She provides a decent BBBJ, and she is a hot little woman.

On Tuesday, a different girl approached me, younger and more attractive. I made a mistake there, did not negotiate fees in advance. She was disappointing. Only CBJ on offer, hot body, she came a number of times (soaked my couch) , and wanted 3000 KES in the morning. Paid her and got rid of her presence, not to repeat.

On Wednesday I went back to Simmers, but did not find anything of my liking. I was not in the right mood, probably a bit spent after three nights of fun. I decided to check out Madhouse, also at walking distance. 300 KES entrance, loud music, hard pro's inside. A few stunning women around, did not investigate offers, and I was not approached. Left after a while, Madhouse is not the place for me.

On Thursday went back to Simmers, Julie again, another night of good, relaxed fun with her. Julie does not come easily, she likes DATY but not to finish. She came a couple of times in cowgirls though. The big advantage of girls like Julie is that they do not break my balls, do not try to cheat or steal, and they keep me warm at night.

On Friday, last evening, I was approached by[/QUOTE]Great report. You seem to have hit a rich seam at Simmers and you did well on price as well for Nairobi, averaging 1, 500 Kes a shot. Try 'Black Diamond' in Westlands next time. Free entry, reasonable bar prices and the best looking girls tend to go there. Some of the stunners go for less in 'Black Diamond' as against Madhouse, which is usually the later more expensive pitstop / option.

[QUOTE=Jbond; 1113845]You are so right, just what I was thinking!

ISG has been infiltrated.

The clear evidence points to her call sign being 'Expat Kenya' with the material written by a ghost writer.

Except she seems to favour Mzungus! [/QUOTE]I disagree. I live in Kenya and know quite a number of working girls. Many have university degrees or degrees from a equivalent to a two year college. Or many are working their way through university. I find her credible since I have heard similar stories from girls I know. Especially about the "husband".

[QUOTE=Fun And Sun; 1113620]I'm going to have to call "bull shit" on this nairobi nights girl. I think that it's just someone trying to cash in on the trend for working girls to write autobiographies after that one girl in London made a tonne of money from her Belle de Jour book and TV series which resulted in several working girls writing similar books.

Would make me laugh if, as part of her research, she reads ISG, LOL.

I have gotten e-mails from loads of malayas, and their writing abilities are far below this nairobi nights girl. Most of them struggle with spelling and complete sentences. This girl has at least a basic university degree, and I think that even an English major would have better career options than being a malaya in Kenya.

All IMHO naturally. [/QUOTE]I have to agree with you brother, these tales cannot be the work of a Koinange street malaya. I have spent most of my life in Nairobi, and have been with numerous working girls. Yes, some do have some decent education, some are even university students, but I have never in my life come across any with the linguistic skills in this blog.

[QUOTE=Tonkazan;1114929]I have to agree with you brother, these tales cannot be the work of a Koinange street malaya. I have spent most of my life in Nairobi, and have been with numerous working girls. Yes, some do have some decent education, some are even university students, but I have never in my life come across any with the linguistic skills in this blog.[/QUOTE]She has an articulate client who, instead of paying in cash, reimburses her in trade as her copy editor. I can imagine stranger arrangements.

It seems she / he (the author of the stories) is in fact following the discussion about the reality-content of the person and "her" stories, as can be seen in the last Episode: " Episode 11: Of Coming Out Of The Closet"

This is an excerpt of it:

""And other mail from people who wish to know whether I am for real. I find them all funny and interesting.

Well the reason some people doubt my existence on the streets is supposedly because I express myself in 'proper' English and show some sense of 'intelligence'. Quite some basis for the doubts. A prostitute is assumed to be a little daft. Just like the thief, she is the loser who opts to go for the shortcut rather than confront life's challenges head on, like decent people do. To some extent there is truth in this, the same way there is some hypocrisy in it, but that is a story for some other day.""

The full story can be found here:

[url]http://www.nairobinights.co.cc/2011/01/episode-11-of-coming-out-of-closet.html#comments[/url]

[QUOTE=Zimzam; 1115105]It seems she / he (the author of the stories) is in fact following the discussion about the reality-content of the person and "her" stories, as can be seen in the last Episode: " Episode 11: Of Coming Out Of The Closet"

This is an excerpt of it:

""And other mail from people who wish to know whether I am for real. I find them all funny and interesting.

Well the reason some people doubt my existence on the streets is supposedly because I express myself in 'proper' English and show some sense of 'intelligence'. Quite some basis for the doubts. A prostitute is assumed to be a little daft. Just like the thief, she is the loser who opts to go for the shortcut rather than confront life's challenges head on, like decent people do. To some extent there is truth in this, the same way there is some hypocrisy in it, but that is a story for some other day.""

The full story can be found here:

[url]http://www.nairobinights.co.cc/2011/01/episode-11-of-coming-out-of-closet.html#comments[/url][/QUOTE]I am pleased that other members are coming to the same conclusion. Please note my thoughts on the Mombasa forum.

Before it sIips my mind, I must dust off the old polygraph, gags, ties, restraints and a bunch of other leather goodies in the attic for future vetting of ISG members, if Jackson so needs!

Has any of you Gentlemen traveled overland (either by car or bus) between Nairobi and Kampala? I was wondering, is the sightseeing or anything else in between worth the trip? Any hints about it?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Littletruths; 1115994]Has any of you Gentlemen traveled overland (either by car or bus) between Nairobi and Kampala? I was wondering, is the sightseeing or anything else in between worth the trip? Any hints about it?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I did it in the other direction. You have a lot of nice landscapes. I liked it, but I did many trips like that. I spent one night in Eldoret. Not so many tourists there so the girls are very interested in single white men. I scored a beautiful 20 yo student girl with a great body. I am quite sure I was her first white.

Also on the way is Jinja in Uganda, near the source of the nile. I was there with a girl from Kampala but had the impression that enough local talent was available there too.

[QUOTE=Hermescali; 1116101]I did it in the other direction. You have a lot of nice landscapes. I liked it, but I did many trips like that. I spent one night in Eldoret. Not so many tourists there so the girls are very interested in single white men. I scored a beautiful 20 yo student girl with a great body. I am quite sure I was her first white.

Also on the way is Jinja in Uganda, near the source of the nile. I was there with a girl from Kampala but had the impression that enough local talent was available there too. [/QUOTE]Nice! Did you travel by bus / other public transport or by private car? How many hours did the journey take, excluding stop-overs? Is the road condition acceptable?

Thanks in advance for the info, I'm sure other fellow member will find such input interesting!

Bless

[QUOTE=Littletruths; 1116135]Nice! Did you travel by bus / other public transport or by private car? How many hours did the journey take, excluding stop-overs? Is the road condition acceptable?

Thanks in advance for the info, I'm sure other fellow member will find such input interesting!

Bless[/QUOTE]Part of the trip I took a bus, other parts Bush taxis. Bus is ok, bish taxi very crowded and not for the faint hearted. Over the border you have to walk, but no big problem. If I remember right total travel time should be about 15 hours.

Road conditions are quite good for africa.

[QUOTE=Satyr9;1115049]She has an articulate client who, instead of paying in cash, reimburses her in trade as her copy editor. I can imagine stranger arrangements.[/QUOTE]Which ever way, she is getting famous.

Here's and interview [url]http://globalvoicesonline.org/2011/01/25/kenya-sue-the-kenyan-prostitute-building-a-brand-online/[/url]

As I kmew about the nairobi visit ahead of time I was well prepared.

There was a sweet girl from Mombasa that I knew at afro a while ago.

Asked her to come over to nairobi and stay with me for all my visit (5 days)

She took the bus and came over.

I was not aware how tall she is. 5'9" slim and well built.

She arrived to my hotel at 6 am in the morning. Gave her a hot cup of tea and she jumped to the shower.

Came out the bathroom covered with a towel. One of the most beautifull african women I ever seen.

She joined me at the bed and kept some distance (she was shy)

I hugged he and kissed her and took the towel away.

Looked at her and slowly touched her all over while kissing.

She moaned and as I reached her pussy I could feel she is tottaly wet.

While my hands all over her she moved her hand slowly and touched my dick. It was gard as a rock.

It was a great week.

A lot off sweet and tender sex.

Having looked around a bit this seems to be the big issue I have with going. There is a healthy number of luxury and fine hotels. Many advertising on the net. But when it comes to low budget accommodation it is like they don't exist. It's not that I necessarily need to find the cheapest hotel around, but after having been a regular to Pattaya for some years I don't really see my self spending too much of my budget on hotels.

I think I've been averageing 30-35$ a day. And with that as a guide I really can not find much in Nairobi. Is there anythig at all?

[QUOTE=Noudo; 1117197]Having looked around a bit this seems to be the big issue I have with going. There is a healthy number of luxury and fine hotels. Many advertising on the net. But when it comes to low budget accommodation it is like they don't exist. It's not that I necessarily need to find the cheapest hotel around, but after having been a regular to Pattaya for some years I don't really see my self spending too much of my budget on hotels.

I think I've been averageing 30-35$ a day. And with that as a guide I really can not find much in Nairobi. Is there anythig at all? [/QUOTE]If you visit nairobi with budjet less than 100 dollar / day (hotel+handmoney) Than better not go to Nairobi.

[QUOTE=Johnympole;1113841]Kenyan born and' bred. Anyone requiring a flexible available wingman (In Nairobi. But also luv's Mombasa) please get in-touch. I enjoy sharing travel experiences (Not that I have much!)[/QUOTE]Hi Johnny,

I'm coming to Nairobi around middle of March, and was looking for a good 'wing man' to 'Big me up' to the local girls. I'm primarily interested in picking up non working girls in shopping malls (like Ya Ya Center) during the day time mainly. I'm an Australian expat currently living in Jakarta, but I'm only a 9. 5 hour non stop flight away from you on Kenya Air via Bangkok.

I already have several girls lined up from Afro Introductions, and of course, I'm looking for more. This upcoming trip is only for two weeks, but if it goes according to plan, my intention is to come back to NBO (and of course, I must check out Mombasa too) on a more permanent basis around mid June.

Regards,

David Francis.

[QUOTE=David Francis; 1117338]Hi Johnny,

I'm coming to Nairobi around middle of March, and was looking for a good 'wing man' to 'Big me up' to the local girls. I'm primarily interested in picking up non working girls in shopping malls (like Ya Ya Center) during the day time mainly. I'm an Australian expat currently living in Jakarta, but I'm only a 9. 5 hour non stop flight away from you on Kenya Air via Bangkok.

I already have several girls lined up from Afro Introductions, and of course, I'm looking for more. This upcoming trip is only for two weeks, but if it goes according to plan, my intention is to come back to NBO (and of course, I must check out Mombasa too) on a more permanent basis around mid June.

Regards,

David Francis.[/QUOTE]Now this sounds like t'would have been an awesome adventure. I don't want to sound like a spoil sport but I recently landed an unexpected job out of the country and might not be around. It goes till June.

But all in all Kenyan's blacks love whites if only for a 'new' and 'different' experience and yu might not have to pay for anything other than the usual dating expenses (Wine and' Dine. And' your accommodation) if you know the right places to look; experiences of joys / adventures shared as opposed to services bought. I'm johnympole et oohay dt kom and' would be glad to give my two cents if and' when needed. A word of advice: Try and' venture out to the smaller towns Nakuru, Machakos, Embu etc (One / Two hours drive with public transport readily available) if only for a day each. You won't be dissapointed.

Johny

[QUOTE=Noudo; 1117197]Having looked around a bit this seems to be the big issue I have with going. There is a healthy number of luxury and fine hotels. Many advertising on the net. But when it comes to low budget accommodation it is like they don't exist. It's not that I necessarily need to find the cheapest hotel around, but after having been a regular to Pattaya for some years I don't really see my self spending too much of my budget on hotels.

I think I've been averageing 30-35$ a day. And with that as a guide I really can not find much in Nairobi. Is there anythig at all? [/QUOTE]Read the Nairobi thread. You will find budget hotels are aplenty.

[QUOTE=WillyboyI]f you visit nairobi with budjet less than 100 dollar / day (hotel+handmoney) Than better not go to Nairobi.[/QUOTE]That's not a problem. I'm a bit above that. It's just that I don't fancy spending too much on the hotel. For me that feels kinda pointless. Clean, friendly and "safe". .

[QUOTE=Noddy]Read the Nairobi thread. You will find budget hotels are aplenty. .[/QUOTE]I'll give it another look. Can't say I found plenty but it's quite a few posts to look through. I might have missed something obvious.

[QUOTE=Noudo; 1117660]That's not a problem. I'm a bit above that. It's just that I don't fancy spending too much on the hotel. For me that feels kinda pointless. Clean, friendly and "safe". .

I'll give it another look. Can't say I found plenty but it's quite a few posts to look through. I might have missed something obvious. [/QUOTE]Noddy is trying to tell you about the Terminal Hotel. 30 or 35 dollars per night. Clean, safe, central, very no-frills place. No TV even.

The Nairobi choice of many a no-frills monger.

[QUOTE=Noudo; 1117660]That's not a problem. I'm a bit above that. It's just that I don't fancy spending too much on the hotel. For me that feels kinda pointless. Clean, friendly and "safe". .

I'll give it another look. Can't say I found plenty but it's quite a few posts to look through. I might have missed something obvious.[/QUOTE]There are a couple of hostels in and around Nairobi where yu could a room. Whatever yu do there is your own business, and if you are lucky you get beautiful sexy and willing neighbors. Beauty about them is that they are not too harsh on the pocket. That and th fact that you get to interact with locals who might show you a thing or two other tourists never get to see / know.

OK, strange question I know, but I wonder what other people have experienced.

I am very careful in Nairobi, and everywhere in Kenya, condoms always for everything. But after almost every encounter I seem to pick up a yeast infection with red and itchy scrotum and genitals. It is easily treated and not serious (that's how I know it's yeast / fungus; diflucan zaps it quickly) but it is extremely annoying and sometimes embarrassing when I transmit it to someone who doesn't know my habits. Does everyone have similar problems? Or is it just me?

[QUOTE=Harry 294;1110550]Hi I will be in Nairobi on 1st Feb if any body intrested in drinking and hunting with please PM me:0[/QUOTE]Am looking to have my first mzungu for some naughty fun, email [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]

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[QUOTE=Kc Me; 1117942]OK, strange question I know, but I wonder what other people have experienced.

I am very careful in Nairobi, and everywhere in Kenya, condoms always for everything. But after almost every encounter I seem to pick up a yeast infection with red and itchy scrotum and genitals. It is easily treated and not serious (that's how I know it's yeast / fungus; diflucan zaps it quickly) but it is extremely annoying and sometimes embarrassing when I transmit it to someone who doesn't know my habits. Does everyone have similar problems? Or is it just me? [/QUOTE]My sensible opinion: See a qualified Doctor. Do not take advice from an ISG Doctor. LOL

[QUOTE=Noddy;1118652]My sensible opinion: See a qualified Doctor. Do not take advice from an ISG Doctor. LOL[/QUOTE]Do what Noddy said.

I'll be going to Nairobi on business in April and have (what else?) been roaming a bit on afrointroductions. Since I've never been to Kenya before this gives rise to a couple of question. First, I've been in contact with a young girl who calls herself Pili, but whose real name appears to be Jackline, who seems very keen to secure my "company" while I'm there. Does anyone have experieces with this girl to share?

Secondly, if I hook up with her (or someone else) , what are the local procedures? There's a pretence that I come to visit her as a friend / boyfriend / suitor, so how does one approach the money issue? And, how much "pocket money" would a girl expect for a few days together?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

[QUOTE=Priamos; 1119218]I'll be going to Nairobi on business in April and have (what else?) been roaming a bit on afrointroductions. Since I've never been to Kenya before this gives rise to a couple of question. First, I've been in contact with a young girl who calls herself Pili, but whose real name appears to be Jackline, who seems very keen to secure my "company" while I'm there. Does anyone have experieces with this girl to share?

Secondly, if I hook up with her (or someone else) , what are the local procedures? There's a pretence that I come to visit her as a friend / boyfriend / suitor, so how does one approach the money issue? And, how much "pocket money" would a girl expect for a few days together?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.[/QUOTE]If you have read the forums here, you will at least have noticed some posters writing about how no money exchanged hands between them and the girl (s) and how they paid for nothing apart from cab fares, food, drink, etc.

Some posters, on the other end, are almost religiously circumspect about "negotiating" upfront and making sure the girl always gets a monetary gift.

I am a veteran of six weeks in total, spent in two African countries: Ghana and Kenya. Of the between 30 and 40 girls I fucked during these six weeks, only one was found in a bar where hardcore pros ply their trade (Mecumba's in Accra). I am not fond of these places.

So I have learned a simple rule: there is no protocol, there is no "one size fits all" situation. In short, there is no rule.

Sure, if you are going to Madhouse, fee-for-service is the rule.

But when you talk about Afro or meeting a girl on the street, every girl and every encounter and every dynamic between you and her will be different.

I swear to you I have met girls who are offended by the offer of money and some who are offended when it's not offered.

This is the beauty and the jazz of Africa to me.

Nothing is predictable, scriptable or de rigueur here.

The continent of the semi-pro.

Try to enjoy the uncertainty and not cram everything into a pre-ordained box of expectation and comportment.

If your personality and taste do not allow for this sort of flexibility, I think you will enjoy Kenya much less. Or you should stick to the girls of Simmers and Madhouse while in Nairobi.

Satyr, many thanks for your advice.

[QUOTE=Satyr9;1119666]If you have read the forums here, you will at least have noticed some posters writing about how no money exchanged hands between them and the girl (s) and how they paid for nothing apart from cab fares, food, drink, etc.[/QUOTE]Well, I HAVE read the forums here, but frankly I assumed that the posters were bragging when they said that they "spent a whole night with a sophmore student for nothing". I mean, if you look like Jeff Gyllenhaal, that may be possible, but.

[QUOTE=Satyr9; 1119666]This is the beauty and the jazz of Africa to me.

Nothing is predictable, scriptable or de rigueur here.

The continent of the semi-pro.

Try to enjoy the uncertainty and not cram everything into a pre-ordained box of expectation and comportment. [/QUOTE]Point. I should not over analyse. (A known weakness of mine.) It reminds me of East Europe 25 years ago. People were proud to know a westener. And the girls were keen to spend a night with a westerner. Because, seeing as westeners were in another class, it must show that the girl whom they fancy must be someone special. Well. If that's the game in Kenya, I'll go there armed with my youthful experiences from Krakow and Poznan! .

[QUOTE=Priamos; 1119850]Satyr, many thanks for your advice.

Well, I HAVE read the forums here, but frankly I assumed that the posters were bragging when they said that they "spent a whole night with a sophmore student for nothing". I mean, if you look like Jeff Gyllenhaal, that may be possible, but.

Point. I should not over analyse. (A known weakness of mine.) It reminds me of East Europe 25 years ago. People were proud to know a westener. And the girls were keen to spend a night with a westerner. Because, seeing as westeners were in another class, it must show that the girl whom they fancy must be someone special. Well. If that's the game in Kenya, I'll go there armed with my youthful experiences from Krakow and Poznan![/QUOTE]But that is not the main point, I suppose.

I was not in Eastern Europe 25 years ago, so I cannot comment.

Am 47, good looking but not dreamy, work out regularly (so am fit) , shy but charming after the shyness is gotten past, reserved. Tend to think the worst of people and their motives and pronouncements (so not every proclamation of love carries me away). I also suffer dreadfully from a tendency to analyze things until they are dead.

Description furnished by way of context of my success and experience in Africa.

I did occasionally get the vibe that having a white boyfriend was a feather in the cap.

In Nairobi I payed no one apart from reasonable cab fare.

In Mombasa I offered 80 percent of the girls I was with 1000 shillings. They were all ST and all but one accepted. The two girls with whom I had a lifeless threesome asked for another thousand after I gave each 1000 separately on the pretext that the trip back to Diani from Mombasa was long. I didn't have the heart to argue. (When I am deflated and disappointed I tend not to argue). This was the only disappointing experience I had in 2 weeks, incidentally.

The 20 percent of girls to whom I did not offer money were the recipients of dinners and drinks and live band entertainment at Nakumatt on one occasion and karaoke at Nyali Resort on another and these girls did not seem in the least put out that I did not offer.

Now that I think of it, I suppose my few LT girls were wined and dined more thoroughly than the ST girls, as they were more scintillating all-around companions and I actually enjoyed their company both in and out of bed.

My advice with semi-pros can be boiled down to these principles: be prepared to pay or not pay, be willing and easy to pay or not pay, do not discuss paying or not paying until parting. If she doesn't ask and you feel like paying, for whatever reasons affection-based, satisfaction-based or otherwise, then offer. If you don't feel like paying, for whatever reasons affection-based, satisfaction-based or otherwise, then don't offer.

You should immediately have a feel for whether you decided correctly based on her response. And I think in most of these situations, misunderstandings can easily be remedied.

As the Zen poet and swordsman Basho said: Be without expectations.

Again, none of these considerations apply to hard-core pros, with whom I have very little experience.

I had a few days in Nairobi recently. I stayed at Chesterhouse. I booked in for just one night with the intention of finding somewhere else a bit cheaper but ended up staying at CH for the entire period. It is very comfortable and even the standard 'Bedroom' has loads of space, something I like. Security was very friendly and getting girls in was no problem at all, either with me or if they arrived on their own. I usually briefed security that was going to happen. If I stay there again I would go for a room on one of the higher floors to avoid the noise from the bar / restaurant close to the pool. I tried the 'in house' breakfast once and it was really bad and subsequently wandered down the road to the Java each day for breakfast. Although having a kitchen you can of course do your own. At no time wandering around the street local to CH did I feel threatened or hassled.

Checked in late, changed and walked across the road to Madhouse. Sheer Paradise. This was Wednesday and reggae night. Despite what has been written I found the place full of some great-looking babes. And I love reggae. The only problem with the place (and with Simmers) is that as soon as you have made a choice, you see half a dozen other stunners you wish you had gone for instead. So many girls, too little time. Anyway after a while watching the Chinese trying to dance to the dropped beat, I caught the eye of N who came back to my room for a few hours of sheer pleasure. Next day I met up with someone I had contacted on AFF. We met for lunch and she then came over for the evening, staying all night. This was more of a genuine meet such as Satyr9 refers to. No money changed hands other than meals and drinks. Friday I wandered over to Simmers too see what the place was all about. Again contrary to what has been written by some, there was a constant parade of some really amazing girls. I soon bumped into N from two nights before. She was with a friend who was totally drop dead gorgeous and I quickly introduced the idea of a threesome. A hour later the two were wandering around my apartment completly naked. This was where having lots of room came in handy as they set about exploring every nook and cranny in one of the best nights of my life, although they were not really into each other. They eventually left to go to Madhouse and was I supposed to follow but fell into a blissful sleep instead. N came back on Saturday afternoon for one last very passionate session before I left on Sunday morning. I was too drained in every sense of the word to do anything on Saturday night. There were lots of places I did not visit and I failed to try out the massge Satyr talked about which sounded good, but there is always next time. Madhouse Mzungus drool OK.

[QUOTE=Satyr9; 1119969]You should immediately have a feel for whether you decided correctly based on her response. And I think in most of these situations, misunderstandings can easily be remedied.

As the Zen poet and swordsman Basho said: Be without expectations.

Again, none of these considerations apply to hard-core pros, with whom I have very little experience.[/QUOTE]I fully concur with your observations and conclusions, except for a big exception :

I suggest you might want to reconsider the " with whom I have very little experience " bit.

I must confess that most all of my experiences are with what you would call "hard core pros". Not that I intend it to be that way, but that is how it plays out, in retrospect. Why? Because contrary to what you and I would like to think, it is not really up to you or me alone to make the choice of temporary companion. What ultimately really matters is how she signals her avaialibility to you, how she presents and positions herself to attract your attention.

In my (considerable) experience, nobody is better at pretending that she is just "goody 2 shoes trying to make it I the big city " than a consumate pro. Quite a few of my repeaters (and I always repeat with girls who give me good experiences) have openend up to me that they have a profile up on AFF or other dating sites, looking for Mr. Right. And even though they do " this " for a living, I am inclined to think that many are genuine in their desire to call it quits once they latch on to somebody for a more or less permanent relationship.

LH wrote:

<<What ultimately really matters is how she signals her avaialibility to you, how she presents and positions herself to attract your attention.

I couldn't agree more. Hence I apply my simple African rule.

If she meets you in an innocent, non-hardcore context (AFF, Afro, hairdresser, internet cafe, etc.) , then my rules apply.

If she meets you at Madhouse or Simmers, then those rules apply.

The spectrum from regular girl to hardcore pro may be nuanced and fluid on this continent but, fortunately for me and my rules of engagement, the venues and contexts of first contact are fairly fixed.

My only expectation of a girl is that she be game to proceed according to the rules of the field of play where we first encounter one another.

True intentions and rule changes are hers and mine to negotiate thereafter.

[QUOTE=Satyr9; 1122718]LH wrote:

<<What ultimately really matters is how she signals her avaialibility to you, how she presents and positions herself to attract your attention.

I couldn't agree more. Hence I apply my simple African rule.

If she meets you in an innocent, non-hardcore context (AFF, Afro, hairdresser, internet cafe, etc.) , then my rules apply.

If she meets you at Madhouse or Simmers, then those rules apply.

The spectrum from regular girl to hardcore pro may be nuanced and fluid on this continent but, fortunately for me and my rules of engagement, the venues and contexts of first contact are fairly fixed.

My only expectation of a girl is that she be game to proceed according to the rules of the field of play where we first encounter one another.

True intentions and rule changes are hers and mine to negotiate thereafter.[/QUOTE]I now more than 10 girls in afro. Running in Big tree, casabanca, casarina, florida madhouse. No different in rules between disco girls end afro girls. One distination. MONEY

[QUOTE=Satyr9; 1119969]But that is not the main point, I suppose.

I was not in Eastern Europe 25 years ago, so I cannot comment.

Am 47, good looking but not dreamy, work out regularly (so am fit) , shy but charming after the shyness is gotten past, reserved. Tend to think the worst of people and their motives and pronouncements (so not every proclamation of love carries me away). I also suffer dreadfully from a tendency to analyze things until they are dead.

Description furnished by way of context of my success and experience in Africa.

I did occasionally get the vibe that having a white boyfriend was a feather in the cap.

In Nairobi I payed no one apart from reasonable cab fare.

In Mombasa I offered 80 percent of the girls I was with 1000 shillings. They were all ST and all but one accepted. The two girls with whom I had a lifeless threesome asked for another thousand after I gave each 1000 separately on the pretext that the trip back to Diani from Mombasa was long. I didn't have the heart to argue. (When I am deflated and disappointed I tend not to argue). This was the only disappointing experience I had in 2 weeks, incidentally.

The 20 percent of girls to whom I did not offer money were the recipients of dinners and drinks and live band entertainment at Nakumatt on one occasion and karaoke at Nyali Resort on another and these girls did not seem in the least put out that I did not offer.

Now that I think of it, I suppose my few LT girls were wined and dined more thoroughly than the ST girls, as they were more scintillating all-around companions and I actually enjoyed their company both in and out of bed.

My advice with semi-pros can be boiled down to these principles: be prepared to pay or not pay, be willing and easy to pay or not pay, do not discuss paying or not paying until parting. If she doesn't ask and you feel like paying, for whatever reasons affection-based, satisfaction-based or otherwise, then offer. If you don't feel like paying, for whatever reasons affection-based, satisfaction-based or otherwise, then don't offer.

You should immediately have a feel for whether you decided correctly based on her response. And I think in most of these situations, misunderstandings can easily be remedied.

As the Zen poet and swordsman Basho said: Be without expectations.

Again, none of these considerations apply to hard-core pros, with whom I have very little experience. [/QUOTE]If one kenya girls is less than 24h with you. End you not promisd to married with her. Than this girl neet money from you. All the rest is nonsens. Not one kenya girl open her pussy for free. All this storys about big taxi money is nonsens. The girl will return it home with matatu end buy schapaty from your money. If you give 2000ksh for taxi or 2000ksh pussy. From this 2000ksh the mzungu can not drinking tusker after this from this money. The kenya girls sleeping with mzungu. 1) for better life after (western union draem) 2) or for money to pay her rent. It is only 1 or 2. Way number 3. Not

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1122797]If one kenya girls is less than 24h with you. End you not promisd to married with her. Than this girl neet money from you. All the rest is nonsens. Not one kenya girl open her pussy for free. All this storys about big taxi money is nonsens. The girl will return it home with matatu end buy schapaty from your money. If you give 2000ksh for taxi or 2000ksh pussy. From this 2000ksh the mzungu can not drinking tusker after this from this money. The kenya girls sleeping with mzungu. 1) for better life after (western union draem) 2) or for money to pay her rent. It is only 1 or 2. Way number 3. Not[/QUOTE]On the most fundamental level, maintaining that all members of a society are the same way is offensive and errant.

All Muslims are fundamentalists, all Jews are cheap, all Irish are drunks. And now, courtesy of Willyboy, all Kenyan women fuck foreigners only for money.

Just stupid and offensive on the most basic level.

[QUOTE=Satyr9; 1122890]On the most fundamental level, maintaining that all members of a society are the same way is offensive and errant.

All Muslims are fundamentalists, all Jews are cheap, all Irish are drunks. And now, courtesy of Willyboy, all Kenyan women fuck foreigners only for money.

Just stupid and offensive on the most basic level.[/QUOTE]Pussy is never for free!

Only 2 thinks are free in Kenya. 1) the sun 2) the smile of kenya girls.

All the rest. MONEY.

Not in one place al over the world is sex for free.

Maby mzungu thinking that girls in Nairobi coming to simmers or florida madhouse to find klient for free sex. Compleet nonsens.

Plaese come not with storys like big taximoney for sex.

Like all generalisations, this is rubbish. In my few visits to kenya I have met a couple of girls through AFF, Alt. Com or just chatting up someone in a shop etc and they were genuinely only interested in meeting someone different to what they were used to just for the sake of it. On my visit a few weeks ago, the girl in question said she was done with local guys and like so many Kenyan girls I have met, she had a high sex drive and wanted to try different things. In this instance bondage and I was happy to oblige. Sure I bought meals and drinks but I did not have to. The reason why I sometimes prefer a straightforward transaction is that once its done, its done. Some AFF contacts can be a bit clingy. Nothing too heavy but when time is short, sometimes pay and go has its attractions.

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1122797]If one kenya girls is less than 24h with you. End you not promisd to married with her. Than this girl neet money from you. All the rest is nonsens. Not one kenya girl open her pussy for free. All this storys about big taxi money is nonsens. The girl will return it home with matatu end buy schapaty from your money. If you give 2000ksh for taxi or 2000ksh pussy. From this 2000ksh the mzungu can not drinking tusker after this from this money. The kenya girls sleeping with mzungu. 1) for better life after (western union draem) 2) or for money to pay her rent. It is only 1 or 2. Way number 3. Not[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1122785]I now more than 10 girls in afro. Running in Big tree, casabanca, casarina, florida madhouse. No different in rules between disco girls end afro girls. One distination. MONEY[/QUOTE]Before moving on with our adventures on safari, I would like to say Willy is just being realistic. Most women really are in it for financial and emotional support. These young women would rather be hiding the sausage with a young guy in their neighbourhood rather than pander to an older mzungu. Most of them will be working in some way or other and using introduction agencies as well to further their ambitions.

We all age eventually and this is the most difficult thing for us fellow hunters to accept, when we have just had wonderful experiences with a host of young hotties. Jake Gyllenhall and whoever else you care to mention will have to accept this fact of life one day. I sadly saw my own father experience this realisation as age caught up with him.

The working girl in 'Nairobi Nights' hinted at this and why business can be so good for her and friends because ultimately part of their work is massaging the ego of their punters. Wherever, I have been in the world a woman will sweet talk me but I know this is nothing more than part of their act and the same lines they have used to other hunters passing through on sausage safari.

It is my very sad duty to report that Nairobi is not longer a premier mongering destination. I have decided to bite the bullit and face reality. I accept that many will trenchantly disagree with me and will make incisive counter arguments.

However, things have changed so much in the last 10 years in Nairobi that it is just not worth visiting anymore.

There are so few places to go now in the City. Gone are the two primary hunting grounds of Buffalo Bills and the Bavarian Hotel. Never to be replaced. Where hundreds of pretty amateur girls congregated in Florida 2000 now one only finds tired wornout camels.

You can now go to Simmers. All tough weatherbeaten pros and New Florida. All tough weatherbeaten pros. I fucked them all 10 years ago. The all sit on the same stools.

Black Diamond in Westlands is a great new disco. Lovely openair terrace but regrettably just hosting the best of the pros of Simmers and Floridas- and asking for big money in the leafy salubrious confines of Westlands.

Nairobi has in the region of 8 Universities now. They churn out thousands of graduates each year. They are all professional people and no longer desperately need of the sugar daddies of old. You will get the very odd drunken or cunning exception.

And please. The posts on the Nairobi forum have become so tedious and boring that I am turning to drink to sedate my nerves.

Sorry to burst your bubbles Rafikis but the truth must be told. Thats why we come to this site. We seek the truth.

If anyone. And I'm sure there will be many building a scaffold for me. Wish to dispute. Then let them name just one. Just one place in Nairobi during daylight hours where one can buy and beer and peruse willing amateur or semi pros.

So raise a Toast to Nairobi as we mourn her passing. Boo Hoo!

[QUOTE=Satyr9; 1122890]On the most fundamental level, maintaining that all members of a society are the same way is offensive and errant.

All Muslims are fundamentalists, all Jews are cheap, all Irish are drunks. And now, courtesy of Willyboy, all Kenyan women fuck foreigners only for money.

Just stupid and offensive on the most basic level. [/QUOTE]I have problems when people generalize, as well as when people are ignorant to learn the true colors of characters, while they could've. Most mongerers have little time or interest to get to know their temporary partners and I know we all operates in different ways.

WB is generalizing and I can not support that like the rest of you.

Satyr9 is very experienced. He can estimate different characters of malayas from the palm of his hand, I can sense that. For newcomers things may turnout different.

To pay or not to pay? I always choose pay! Even if its 500 for a newspaper or taxi when otherwise the girl gets insulted to accept money for sex. Simply because of my own motivations and standard: I am not going to marry the girl, I choose her to have sex with, not the girl choosing me and I don't wand to get in the cat and mouse game. She may refuse money not genuinely but because she is playing her cards. Many girls try emotional sabotage on two sides.

1: She accept money because she is so poor and pitiful, I have a child to raise. Its never enough.

2: How could you ever think of me that I am a prostitute! She makes you feel guilty about your acts while what she really wands is a Western Union husband. By causing a scene her chances increase with us softies.

Bare in mind that also mongerers sometimes get caught in 'serious relationship' and the girls know that, they live on hope, like their friends who managed to get a mzungu they also wand to prosper. Her chances may be less than 1% but after fucking 200 mzunges she'll get what she wands.

Let alone the girls who I see daily, who approach me, who are financially stable and I know very well!

Paying a malaya, if it's a little overpriced cab-money, a newspaper or whatsoever sets the records straight: I don't owe you, you do not owe me, and no emotional manipulation.

You might not know that some fellow posters NEVER pay a girl after let's say three or more days fun, but it happens and if something bad happens, that's the time we read that malayas in Mtwapa or so are S*T. I wish not even the biggest malaya to think of my person to fit into that category.

I think WB was trying to say something like this too, though his character is too straight forward to understand the taxi money while they'll take a matatu after all, LOL.

Girls of the Internet, are just another form of prostitution. They are poor in spirit who are unwilling to understand.

Make 2 different mailadresses. 2 different country. 2 different names. Write to one girl from afro. End say, I coming to Nairobi. Plaese pik-up in airport. One garanty. This will coming. Choise 2 different holiday periods. I did it. End I smile to to floor. In 20 seconds. The same girl will have one fuck with my. Willy from 2 different countrys. 2 different names. One girl in Nairobi told my that her mailbox in full with 50 to 100 mails / day. This afro is big profit. If you having mailadres from one girl. Put it in google, end 50 procent. Send you to SCAMMERSLIST.

[QUOTE=Donnachaa; 1123019]It is my very sad duty to report that Nairobi is not longer a premier mongering destination. I have decided to bite the bullit and face reality. I accept that many will trenchantly disagree with me and will make incisive counter arguments.

However, things have changed so much in the last 10 years in Nairobi that it is just not worth visiting anymore.

There are so few places to go now in the City. Gone are the two primary hunting grounds of Buffalo Bills and the Bavarian Hotel. Never to be replaced. Where hundreds of pretty amateur girls congregated in Florida 2000 now one only finds tired wornout camels.

You can now go to Simmers. All tough weatherbeaten pros and New Florida. All tough weatherbeaten pros. I fucked them all 10 years ago. The all sit on the same stools.

Black Diamond in Westlands is a great new disco. Lovely openair terrace but regrettably just hosting the best of the pros of Simmers and Floridas- and asking for big money in the leafy salubrious confines of Westlands.

Nairobi has in the region of 8 Universities now. They churn out thousands of graduates each year. They are all professional people and no longer desperately need of the sugar daddies of old. You will get the very odd drunken or cunning exception.

And please. The posts on the Nairobi forum have become so tedious and boring that I am turning to drink to sedate my nerves.

Sorry to burst your bubbles Rafikis but the truth must be told. Thats why we come to this site. We seek the truth.

If anyone. And I'm sure there will be many building a scaffold for me. Wish to dispute. Then let them name just one. Just one place in Nairobi during daylight hours where one can buy and beer and peruse willing amateur or semi pros.

So raise a Toast to Nairobi as we mourn her passing. Boo Hoo![/QUOTE]Sadly, you have a point. At least you experienced the good times. Black Diamond is the best but you are right in its description. This is why I only stay a couple of days in Nairobi before moving to the coast or to other pastures new.

Where do you think these girls have gone? Are they looking for Mzungu sausage more on the coast?

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1123197]Make 2 different mailadresses. 2 different country. 2 different names. Write to one girl from afro. End say, I coming to Nairobi. Plaese pik-up in airport. One garanty. This will coming. Choise 2 different holiday periods. I did it. End I smile to to floor. In 20 seconds. The same girl will have one fuck with my. Willy from 2 different countrys. 2 different names. One girl in Nairobi told my that her mailbox in full with 50 to 100 mails / day. This afro is big profit. If you having mailadres from one girl. Put it in google, end 50 procent. Send you to SCAMMERSLIST.[/QUOTE]I did the Afro test in several countries over several years. Last in 2009 in Uganda and Kenya. I met several girls. Most were working. 2 of them I met at work. I was a "hairdresser", but met me in the afternoon, fucked me silly for two hours and left without wanting taxi money and knowing she wouldn't see me again. One was a hardcore hooker with a fake photo, so kicked her out immediately.

One of the office girls just wanted me to bring her a vibrator, which I gladly did. The other office girl just asked me to buy her a girl for lesbian fun, which I also did,

Of course it took time to sort ut the good from the bad. Of course I wasn't searching in hookers paradise Mombasa.

That said I also had several prostitutes. Then it was clear from the beginning that I would pay. Like everywhere.

But it is defanitely possible to score for free (of course you pay for food and drinks) for a few days in Kenya. But I guess only if you also have some game in your home country.

Hello,

Kenya is great and kenyan girls are even better.

I met my wife at Afro. Very nice slim girl with no children. Good job where she makes around 150 000 ksh per month. I know that several of her female collegues would be very happy to meet nice muzungus up to 50 years old as long as they are well behaved and have some money.

I also met Afri women in Uganda and in different european countries. Always a nice way to find beautiful freebies and most know how to fuck!

Africa is the last paradise for muzungus where you can find well educated, beautiful girl just for being a nice white guy.

Enjoy!

There seems to be a dichotomy in the present thread of "to pay or not to pay" aka "are all African girls only after money?" between those who generalize the entire distaff African population and those who realize that life is more diverse than this.

I would suggest the following paradigm change.

Instead of thinking of African women and their ultimate motivations, think about women everywhere and their motivations.

Now, lest I be accused of sexism, now extend the question to everyone everywhere, regardless of sex.

Most folks who are in search of plighting their troughs or embarking on any LTR, tend to consider the financial circumstances of his / her partner and how a LTR will benefit his or her portfolio.

Men are as leery of hooking up with deadbeat women as women are toward men.

But the courtship is rare which includes the exchange of legal tender after every initial sexual coupling. In fact, only those which begin with a man and a prostitute (or a woman and her gigolo) and progress to LTR would fit this model.

Now, if all intimate, long-term relationships are power / financially based, at least in part, then it is a necessary conclusion that not every preliminary / early sexual encounter must involve the exchange of cash.

Not even in Africa.

QED.

Not saying don't pay. I'm saying the universe is more diverse than WB and others suggest.

[QUOTE=Satyr9; 1123571]There seems to be a dichotomy in the present thread of "to pay or not to pay" aka "are all African girls only after money?" between those who generalize the entire distaff African population and those who realize that life is more diverse than this.

I would suggest the following paradigm change.

Instead of thinking of African women and their ultimate motivations, think about women everywhere and their motivations.

Now, lest I be accused of sexism, now extend the question to everyone everywhere, regardless of sex.

Most folks who are in search of plighting their troughs or embarking on any LTR, tend to consider the financial circumstances of his / her partner and how a LTR will benefit his or her portfolio.

Men are as leery of hooking up with deadbeat women as women are toward men.

But the courtship is rare which includes the exchange of legal tender after every sexual coupling.

Now, if all intimate relationships are power / financial based, at least in part, then it is a necessary conclusion that not every preliminary / early sexual encounter must involve the exchange of cash.

Not even in Africa.

QED.

Not saying don't pay. I'm saying the universe is more diverse than WB and others suggest. [/QUOTE]As 'Donnachaa' quite rightly mentioned onwards with enthralling adventures on love safari. 'Willyboy' in his own unique and entertaining way is just saying be careful out there and the health warning is with regards most Kenyan girls and their sisters wherever you maybe in the world but note not all. Mere realism, when a young hottie is with an older mzungu. When some of the guys used to come and visit me in South America and new / not sure about the P4P scene, I used to say to them what is more expensive free sex or paid for sex and they soon understood. These girls on Afro, if given the opportunity to find a chink in your armour are trying to play for much higher stakes. Even if it only ends up with drinks, nice meal, movie and cab fare this is still more than pulling and paying for a hottie as a one off and playing hide the sausage with her! Any girlfriend or wife worth her salt will always cost you considerably more. My ex wife topped the charts on how much sex cost with her on average per event in between headaches and I am still paying to this day without any of the benefits!

I don't see any logic explaining your position to the member because this debate,

From the early life of this website, will hold forever. No winners no losers and clearly no logic!

The camp of guys that don't pay like myself are generally get artillery fire from others that pays.

So the best thing is to leave out of the forum. Its complex issue and logic is the last variable in the equation.

Anyway I like to thanks again for the "afro" idea. It will be tested next week in Uganda follows by a reports.

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1123197]Make 2 different mailadresses. 2 different country. 2 different names. Write to one girl from afro. End say, I coming to Nairobi. Plaese pik-up in airport. One garanty. This will coming. Choise 2 different holiday periods. I did it. End I smile to to floor. In 20 seconds. The same girl will have one fuck with my. Willy from 2 different countrys. 2 different names. One girl in Nairobi told my that her mailbox in full with 50 to 100 mails / day. This afro is big profit. If you having mailadres from one girl. Put it in google, end 50 procent. Send you to SCAMMERSLIST.[/QUOTE]So what the ladies you find on certain websites, in nightclubs and beaches are cheap. Isn't that what you're looking for? Easy going, cooperative, cheap company and sex with no strings attached.

Malayas will always follow the mongerer and visa versa, that doesn't say that there are no sincere non- or semi professional girls out here. After tagged now also Afro is stuffed with malayas, what dating site next?

Afro probably started with some serious girls and now it gets flooded with malayas too, obviously because mongerers discovered Afro. The fact where you find malayas on Afro doesn't mean that, because you found them there, all of them are just the same. Probably this dating site started with a number of sincere girls, they find mongerers looking for semi or non-prof, than proffessional malayas looking for mongerer finds Afro and there we go, they are all malayas!

I won't deny the percentage of what is considered prostitutes in western perspective is very high but people are different, you can not generalize if among thousands there is even one sincere girl. How do you approach girls and do you count the ones that never replied?

Isn't it the same with us mongerers. We operate from different motivations, we have different ages, different approach. One pays too much, the other pays nothing at all, one is happy to be offered free sex, the other insist he pays. Some of us are old, some are athletic and young, some enjoy other features of Kenya while others hate the country and just come to fuck. I prefer non. Or semi professional, the other chooses hard core malaya. Can a Kenyan say we are all the same?

No matter what kind of girl you're looking for, you will find her in Kenya. Only if you're looking for a sincere girl, the 'market' is getting tight and do not assume your money will buy everything. You can get a malaya, you can get a semi-prof very easy, a smile will do, but when it comes to a sincere girls, stop looking on the tourist beaches, bars and nightclubs, tagged, Afro and places where other mongerers are looking for malaya and malaya are looking for mzungu money. If you're looking for an innocent girl for cheap sex, keep on dreaming guys, the fake malayas follow wherever you step and the shy sincere girls don't even get the chance to talk to you.

It's a service for money or expectation thing.

You can't judge a malaya for asking money for a service. What you top up on dinner and drinks is your own choice, you wand sex only or you also wand their company? Didn't you already know they might expect something to pay the rent, to buy chapatti or milk for the child? It is fair guys.

If that's too much to ask, why come to a country where as a mzungu you can feel good being appreciated by just being yourself and get the best fuck, company or not, for the cheapest money.

Better watch out, these forums are full with warnings about cheeky girls looking for 'serious relationship' with western union mzungu while they just keep on fucking around with fellow mongerers and boyfriends. Now it seems it's us against them in terms of sincerity. You can not blame a girl for dreaming of a better life, why do you think they start to do prostitution, really to stay hungry but at least sexually satisfied? Aren't all women all over world ambitions and why should that be different in Kenya!

Fact is, you come to Kenya for sex, you will what you wand, so don't complain if you're just getting what you're paying for and what you're looking for. It's a service for a service, not us against them.

Insite one mail, I write. I not want love with you but fun end sex. Than her answer was coming. Like 200 dollars is it okey with you willy, are you on line we chat.

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1126046]Insite one mail, I write. I not want love with you but fun end sex. Than her answer was coming. Like 200 dollars is it okey with you willy, are you on line we chat.[/QUOTE]Well you know what to say, when writing to her and don't hold back. I have had a look at Afro recently and most of the good looking ones, I have spotted selling their pussy in some joint or other. Maybe a good idea to say," I actually meant 200 KES"! One of those who thinks you are not only the froth on one cup of capuccino but probably the whole month's worth from a well known coffee outlet. I am looking forward to next week in Black Diamond. There are always one or two there who try it on. Don't get me wrong still the best place in Nairobi, just adds to the entertainment.

Does anyone have an opinion on the Sentrim 680 Hotel? Is it girl friendly? Also what type of a place is it? Furthermore whats my best bet for finding action in that area? I am only around for 4 or 5 days, would prefer somewhere I can go in the late afternoon and select a girl.

Thanks in advance.

Pete

[QUOTE=Petepunter; 1127239]Does anyone have an opinion on the Sentrim 680 Hotel? Is it girl friendly? Also what type of a place is it? Furthermore whats my best bet for finding action in that area? I am only around for 4 or 5 days, would prefer somewhere I can go in the late afternoon and select a girl.

Thanks in advance.

Pete[/QUOTE]NOT go to hotel 680, mistake.

I've got 4 or 5 days coming up in nairobi middle next month. I'm really only interested in pussy, should I stay in Nairobi or go to Mombassa?

B,

Go to Mombasa if you can, it's no point in staying 5 days in Nairobi if you really want to have pussy only. Take a short flight to Mombasa, low as 40USD one way and book a hotel close to the action. Nairobi is expensive, and most of the girls are pretty spoiled IMHO. In Mombasa you will get more action for your cash.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Biffa;1135275]I've got 4 or 5 days coming up in nairobi middle next month. I'm really only interested in pussy, should I stay in Nairobi or go to Mombassa?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Biffa;1135275]I've got 4 or 5 days coming up in nairobi middle next month. I'm really only interested in pussy, should I stay in Nairobi or go to Mombassa?[/QUOTE]Nairobi is too much damned effort these days. And prices are getting silly. If you just want pussy, then there is much more on offer, and more variety, in Mombasa.

If you do stay in Nbi (and it IS a great place) go out of the town centre. There are some great street-girls on Argwings Khodek Road (if you want to save buying drinks first). About 200 metres away from the petrol satation, heading towards the Ya-YA, you'll usually find a really hot Luo babe called Mary (she's the one in the business suit at 9:00pm). She's 30 something, but goes all night long for 3, 000bob. There are also some very young girls on that street (too young to get into clubs).

There are still a lot of great girls / women in Roasters on Thika Road, which is much more relaxed than the places in town. Or if its the weekend, and you are into slightly more mature women, go up to the Blue Posts in Thika. If you meet a couple of cousins called Margaret and Elizabeth, who are often there on a Saturday, you had better be in good condition!

Or, you could head up-country. Best hunting ground in Kenya is still The White Rhino in Nyeri. If you can't score in that bar, you are never going to score anywhere. And at the weekend you are spoiled for choice. Or Nakuru. The Kuntse is a well-named hotel if you want a couple of young hot Masaai babes (but ask to see some I'd. A couple are mature looking, but on the dodgy side of legal). Or the Stem Hotel if you are looking for some mature action.

Ah, Kenya. When's my next leave due?

Sounds interesting, quick googlemaps check shows the Silver Springs Hotel at the end of that road.

Is that a monger friendly, or too upmarket? (in Africa?)

If I've only a couple of days this sounds like a good hunting area.

The hot Luo babe on AK Road is actually called ALICE. Thoroughly recommended.

And if you fancy something a bit older, pop around the corner to Ngong Hills Hotel. Something always on offer there.

Ah, Bill's. Don't we all miss Bill's?

[QUOTE=Biffa; 1137982]Sounds interesting, quick googlemaps check shows the Silver Springs Hotel at the end of that road.

Is that a monger friendly, or too upmarket? (in Africa?)

If I've only a couple of days this sounds like a good hunting area.[/QUOTE]Haven't been in the Silver Springs for ages. It's not a bad hotle, but unless it's changed, it's definitely not too up-market. I don't remember there ever being many girls IN the hotel. But there are always several just across the road near the petrol stations, and in the shopping area.

DON'T go to the Gracia / Grace House just behind the YaYa. It is full of Christian missionaries.

[QUOTE=Petepunter;1127239]Does anyone have an opinion on the Sentrim 680 Hotel?[/QUOTE]One year ago I was staying at 680 and had some trouble with the floor guards to bring a girl to my room, even during daytime! However, as soon as the cuty was duly registered at the reception, it was no problem at all! I assume it is still the same today, isn't it!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Hi.

Will be arriving on 11th in Nairobi on business trip. Will be staying for 2 days at the Red Court hotel provided by my cleint. I will be on my own from the next 3 days and looking for guest friendly hotel in city center in the range of USD 50 to 75. Would appreciate for any suggestions.

Thanks,

Leo

I'm interested in some hotels in the $100 USD range or less that has favorable reviews and decent location for action (anywhere near Madhouse?). Prices below are off of hotels dot com for last week in April with varied guest / star ratings. Any responses by folks who've stayed here (or any other places ok for newbies!) would be MUCH appreciated.

SIXEIGHTY HOTEL 88 USD.

CROWNE PLAZA HOTEL 137 USD.

HILTON NAIROBI 137 USD.

HOTEL KIPEPO 52 USD.

WEST BREEZE 98 USD.

KHWEZA B and B 60 USD

Hello, I am flying into Nairobi this summer and was wondering if anyone could tell me where they have the women with the biggest asses. Nairobi or Mombasa. I like lightskinned women but I will settle for a dark one with a BIG ass. Which ones are friendlier? I hear Mombasa is cheaper but I am not sure. Is there a problem bringing my girl in for the night and is it easy for a white man to pick up a regular girl. Or should I say how easy is it. What should I look out for? I hear some girls will drug you and rob you.

Never did I have had a chance to choose from such a huge selection just available.

Florida on the first floor just besides the Gas Station is the place to start with. Have girls there from all over Africa, available in all shapes and sizes. Always fix the rate before you leave. I was in Nairobi for about a month and whenever I have hit the place have never been disappointed.

Gypsy is one place where you can hang out. This place is to get picked and not to pick up. You will find some pros but the crowd which comes to this place are mostly expats, a very decent place with some space made available for the dance floor.

Artcaffe the coffee shop on the ground floor of the westgate shopping mall is a another place to hang out where you can fish out some good gems if you are lucky enough. I was able to hit the Jackpot thrice there. Also the whole shopping mall has other places to hangout and try your luck.

I did also hit on the other regular places mentioned in this forum but was left wnting for quality at almost all of them.

Happy hunting.

BR

[QUOTE=Pete Benetar; 1142298]I'm interested in some hotels in the $100 USD range or less that has favorable reviews and decent location for action (anywhere near Madhouse?). Prices below are off of hotels dot com for last week in April with varied guest / star ratings. Any responses by folks who've stayed here (or any other places ok for newbies!) would be MUCH appreciated.

SIXEIGHTY HOTEL 88 USD.

CROWNE PLAZA HOTEL 137 USD.

HILTON NAIROBI 137 USD.

HOTEL KIPEPO 52 USD.

WEST BREEZE 98 USD.

KHWEZA B and B 60 USD[/QUOTE]I have been staying at Chester House for some years now. I always enjoy it there and it's in the city centre so everything is near. I think a basic room runs around $100 per nite.

[QUOTE=Bulik;1148330]I have been staying at Chester House for some years now. I always enjoy it there and it's in the city centre so everything is near. I think a basic room runs around $100 per nite.[/QUOTE]Evrybody is free to pay this amount (not my money) But this is one month salery from normal worker in Kenya. If you stay insite this accomodation. Than girls will asking from you 5000ksh / night end more.

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1148544]Evrybody is free to pay this amount (not my money) But this is one month salery from normal worker in Kenya. If you stay insite this accomodation. Than girls will asking from you 5000ksh / night end more.[/QUOTE]Willyboy. Thanks for your input. But I am not Kenyan so my standards are maybe different. Normal Kenyan worker, not sure what you consider Normal but I consider my girlfriend a Normal Kenyan worker and she pulls in much more than $100 per month. If I was just going for a short time / quickie maybe I would try the Normal Kenyan places, but I am there every 3 months and I enjoy a nice place to stay. It's within my budget! Every man knows his limits.

Bulik Out

[QUOTE=Bulik; 1148925]Willyboy. Thanks for your input. But I am not Kenyan so my standards are maybe different. Normal Kenyan worker, not sure what you consider Normal but I consider my girlfriend a Normal Kenyan worker and she pulls in much more than $100 per month. If I was just going for a short time / quickie maybe I would try the Normal Kenyan places, but I am there every 3 months and I enjoy a nice place to stay. It's within my budget! Every man knows his limits.

Bulik Out[/QUOTE]Having worked and vacationed in West and East Africa, I will say that the only time I would stay in 100+USD hotels is if my organization is footing the bill (work requirements often dictate this to be the case. Internet access, restaurant, meeting rooms, etc). But when I go for personal reasons, I only seek out 50USD hotels. I have noticed that women do up their asking price / accepted donation when one stays in the higher end hotels. Yet I have been able to score 9 and 10 rated women whether I stayed in best or even low budget hotel. The main difference was that I did not get badgered for more or the "this is not enough" when the deed was done. So continue spoiling the scene. I hope you have as deep pockets as some government workers. However, for us practical private sector business people, I will respect the local economy and gift accordingly. Right now, I am cheap charlie-ingly my way in AC, but will be back to West and East Africa in a few months.

Also, the last time I talked to some ladies in Mombasa, Nairobi, and Kampala, they mentioned that some muzungos disrespect the local people when they come in throwing their money around. Some are willing to take what they can get, but they still see it as disrespect. And it contributes to the differential pricing in everything as it relates to foreigners and locals.

[QUOTE=Bulik; 1148925]Willyboy. Thanks for your input. But I am not Kenyan so my standards are maybe different. Normal Kenyan worker, not sure what you consider Normal but I consider my girlfriend a Normal Kenyan worker and she pulls in much more than $100 per month. If I was just going for a short time / quickie maybe I would try the Normal Kenyan places, but I am there every 3 months and I enjoy a nice place to stay. It's within my budget! Every man knows his limits.

Bulik Out[/QUOTE]I forgot to mention that it is true that the average salary for most service sector workers is 100USD. Those working in professional jobs do earn more, but even then I have found the average to be about 600USD. So it is indeed absurd to pay a lady 100+USD per night as if she even just logs 15 days of paid action, that would be more than double the going wage of even most professional workers who work in finance, medical, engineering, etc.

[QUOTE=Jiggydus;1149035]I forgot to mention that it is true that the average salary for most service sector workers is 100USD. Those working in professional jobs do earn more, but even then I have found the average to be about 600USD. So it is indeed absurd to pay a lady 100+USD per night as if she even just logs 15 days of paid action, that would be more than double the going wage of even most professional workers who work in finance, medical, engineering, etc.[/QUOTE]Insite Kenya. You having local websites for escort service. This prices are 1000ksh / one h. End remember that this are prices. 50procent for the girls.

Yes. 10 procent from workers in Kenya having more than 10. 000ksh / month. Also the president having 20. 000 EURO / one month. One schoeclainer have 20ksh for 20 minutes hard work.

[QUOTE=Jiggydus;1149035]I forgot to mention that it is true that the average salary for most service sector workers is 100USD. Those working in professional jobs do earn more, but even then I have found the average to be about 600USD. So it is indeed absurd to pay a lady 100+USD per night as if she even just logs 15 days of paid action, that would be more than double the going wage of even most professional workers who work in finance, medical, engineering, etc.[/QUOTE]Jiggydus. Thanks for your input aswell. I didn't say I paid ladies $100 per nite. I don't pay per nite. What I was saying is that I have a girlfriend there in Kenya, so that eliminates the per nite price that you say I am driving up and spoiling the scene. I was saying that I pay $100 per nite for the hotel I stay in, it's a very decent hotel, free internet, cheap lanudry, good television, a resturant with good cheap food, good security and a very good location. What I stated said nothing about paying a woman. I was strictly stating hotel information. As for throwing money away, I don't do that, maybe thats the reason I can pay $100 a nite for a decent hotel for me and my lady to relax and enjoy our time together. I have never knocked anyone for where they stay, everyone has a budget they have to stick to so they can enjoy without going broke. I have stayed in $50 a nite hotels, $20 a nite hotels even Hostiles, I used to stay at my girlfriends apartment until she took on a roomate.

Jiggydus. Please read my posts again and let me know where it said I pay a woman $100 per nite because that would be a little absurd in Kenya or most other African nations. I have worked and lived in Africa for the past 20 years so I am up to date. Hell I even know how much a semester of college cost there in Kenya!

Its not me driving the prices up,

Bulik Out

[QUOTE=Bulik; 1149142]Jiggydus. Thanks for your input aswell. I didn't say I paid ladies $100 per nite. I don't pay per nite. What I was saying is that I have a girlfriend there in Kenya, so that eliminates the per nite price that you say I am driving up and spoiling the scene. I was saying that I pay $100 per nite for the hotel I stay in, it's a very decent hotel, free internet, cheap lanudry, good television, a resturant with good cheap food, good security and a very good location. What I stated said nothing about paying a woman. I was strictly stating hotel information. As for throwing money away, I don't do that, maybe thats the reason I can pay $100 a nite for a decent hotel for me and my lady to relax and enjoy our time together. I have never knocked anyone for where they stay, everyone has a budget they have to stick to so they can enjoy without going broke. I have stayed in $50 a nite hotels, $20 a nite hotels even Hostiles, I used to stay at my girlfriends apartment until she took on a roomate.

Jiggydus. Please read my posts again and let me know where it said I pay a woman $100 per nite because that would be a little absurd in Kenya or most other African nations. I have worked and lived in Africa for the past 20 years so I am up to date. Hell I even know how much a semester of college cost there in Kenya!

Its not me driving the prices up,

Bulik Out[/QUOTE]My apologies. I used the wrong figure. Actually I was pinpointed on the 5000ksh that some ladies request as a starting amount. When I was in Mombasa, this supposed "student" I met in Casaurina (yeah we all know that the only students that hang out at Casaurina are pH. D hoes) asked me for 4500ksh. I said no way and only passed her 1200ksh plus 200ksh for taxi (total of 16USD). I even let her enjoy the breakfast the guesthouse provided for one person. I left out and went back to my hotel. But if more punters agree to 5000ksh (60USD) just because they are 1) drunk. 2) think the lady is world class fine, or 3) sympathetic to her hardships and want to be the knight in shining armor at least for the night or week, it does have a cascading effect since these women DO TALK with each other and share pertinent INTEL. Like how much they are able to score from the muzungos. So when a good percentage of punters, be they Italian, Asian, Europeans, American, or South African start pricing up the market, the affect will be felt by all who come afterward. The trend can be seen in many places that used to be excellent mongering locations but not so much now. Like Brazil, Bali, etc.

Additionally, I am currently in AC right now and I have seen altruistic, well-off "mongers" splashing cash on the bar girls. One of them happened to be a black guy and I guess he was trying to personally change the perception that black men are stingy tippers. So he took to tossing 50php bills toward a throng of bar girls in One Eyed Winch. Almost caused a major commotion and stampede as girls dashed from the other side of the bar and from the stage down to grab what they could. Well, I was doing nothing of the sort. I operate more like the smart Koreans (not the cash flashers but the cheap charlie koreans who get to the club as soon as the shift changes, buys themselves just a drink, make their pick of the gems available, bar fine her and then go off to have their fun). I am sympathetic to people's hardships but realize that just one person CANNOT solve or improve their plight (hell, multimillionaire lottery winners have gone bankrupt trying to do just that!). I believe the school of thought of making people use their ingenuity and work ethic to earn their keep is a better option than charity. So that thought is why I adhere to respecting the local economy. I have no beef about where a person chooses to lay their head for the night and I like others do have standards. I just am offended when a hotel in Africa tries to charge an exorbitant rate for what I consider basic accommodations which is a clean room, clean running hot water, an AC, and TV. I have been able to obtain that plus free broadband internet access here in AC for only 37USD per night. You can't find that at that price in Africa because of all of the corruption (informal taxation). So when in Africa, I settle for slightly less than ideal accommodations (I. E. No internet access) and pay around 50USD.

Lastly, I was not attacking you. What you do is your business. And again I own up to my mistake so let's go forth and monger in peace!

I have stayed in Hotel Kipepeo in River Road in CBD. Nice hotel, clean, safe and descent brkfast.

$52 is a standard room and $70 is for a slightly larger room.

Difference? Standard rooms are street facing and are loud. There is no aircon in this facility so you need to keep the windows open. Street facing rooms are too loud. So, other times I ask for a more spacious room facing the alley in the back. Those are the $70 / night rooms.

Hotel is GF. Just inform the desk clerk that you intend to bring over someone. If they don't pass the night you will not be charged double occupancy. Or slip the doorman some bobs and they will look the other way when you head upstairs.

Good hotel, but being in the middle of CBD there's lots of traffic.

If you want to stay in Westlands, also consider the Progressive Park Hotel. It's located next to WestLake Mall (across from Ukay Centre, on Mwanzi Road).

It's actually an old appt complex where you can rent a one bedroom (furnished) flat for $100 / night. 2 bedrooms go for $220 / night. Free wifi, gym and B&B. It's very clean and safe. Also GF (I guess?) since I never stop by the lobby when going up to my flat, I just bring girls up there with no problems.

Happy hobbying-

Guy.

[QUOTE=Pete Benetar; 1142298]I'm interested in some hotels in the $100 USD range or less that has favorable reviews and decent location for action (anywhere near Madhouse?). Prices below are off of hotels dot com for last week in April with varied guest / star ratings. Any responses by folks who've stayed here (or any other places ok for newbies!) would be MUCH appreciated.

SIXEIGHTY HOTEL 88 USD.

CROWNE PLAZA HOTEL 137 USD.

HILTON NAIROBI 137 USD.

HOTEL KIPEPO 52 USD.

WEST BREEZE 98 USD.

KHWEZA B and B 60 USD[/QUOTE]

Jiggydus-

I'm a black monger (Canadian of Senegelese descent). I have to at times flash the cash just to get attention as most bargirls are UTRs think I'm african and don't have money! It's actually quite funny!

First I don't get any attention then when I approach girls and they hear my accent (french canadian / north american) I 'm propositioned as a white mzungu with higher prices. (which I don't pay). For instance in KE I'm often asked to pay $100 / night. Outlandish.

So what do I do?

I buy drinks and invite girls over to my table, afterwhich they hear my accent and know I'm a quality prospect.

I don't pay high prices though. That's what these fora are for, to know going rates and not upset the market. I pay somewhere betw 1500 and 2500ksh depending on my mood / horniness and girl's attractiveness and menu offerings.

This may be on the high end of what others pay but for me it's quality not quantity, while also doing a bit of market development in places like Florida so girls pass the word next time I'm around.

Happy hobbying-

Guy.

[QUOTE=Jiggydus; 1149383]My apologies. I used the wrong figure. Actually I was pinpointed on the 5000ksh that some ladies request as a starting amount. When I was in Mombasa, this supposed "student" I met in Casaurina (yeah we all know that the only students that hang out at Casaurina are pH. D hoes) asked me for 4500ksh. I said no way and only passed her 1200ksh plus 200ksh for taxi (total of 16USD). I even let her enjoy the breakfast the guesthouse provided for one person. I left out and went back to my hotel. But if more punters agree to 5000ksh (60USD) just because they are 1) drunk. 2) think the lady is world class fine, or 3) sympathetic to her hardships and want to be the knight in shining armor at least for the night or week, it does have a cascading effect since these women DO TALK with each other and share pertinent INTEL. Like how much they are able to score from the muzungos. So when a good percentage of punters, be they Italian, Asian, Europeans, American, or South African start pricing up the market, the affect will be felt by all who come afterward. The trend can be seen in many places that used to be excellent mongering locations but not so much now. Like Brazil, Bali, etc.

Additionally, I am currently in AC right now and I have seen altruistic, well-off "mongers" splashing cash on the bar girls. One of them happened to be a black guy and I guess he was trying to personally change the perception that black men are stingy tippers. So he took to tossing 50php bills toward a throng of bar girls in One Eyed Winch. Almost caused a major commotion and stampede as girls dashed from the other side of the bar and from the stage down to grab what they could. Well, I was doing nothing of the sort. I operate more like the smart Koreans (not the cash flashers but the cheap charlie koreans who get to the club as soon as the shift changes, buys themselves just a drink, make their pick of the gems available, bar fine her and then go off to have their fun). I am sympathetic to people's hardships but realize that just one person CANNOT solve or improve their plight (hell, multimillionaire lottery winners have gone bankrupt trying to do just that!). I believe the school of thought of making people use their ingenuity and work ethic to earn their keep is a better option than charity. So that thought is why I adhere to respecting the local economy. I have no beef about where a person chooses to lay their head for the night and I like others do have standards. I just am offended when a hotel in Africa tries to charge an exorbitant rate for what I consider basic accommodations which is a clean room, clean running hot water, an AC, and TV. I have been able to obtain that plus free broadband internet access here in AC for only 37USD per night. You can't find that at that price in Africa because of all of the corruption (informal taxation). So when in Africa, I settle for slightly less than ideal accommodations (I. E. No internet access) and pay around 50USD.

Lastly, I was not attacking you. What you do is your business. And again I own up to my mistake so let's go forth and monger in peace! [/QUOTE]

Just to add my 2cents.

I look at cost in this way, much like when you are buying a car there is a range of prices across models. I wouldn't pay Mercedes prices for a Ford. Nor would I expect to get a Mercedes at a the price of a Ford.

So is paying 5K shillings worth it? Well it depends, are you buying the Mercedes or the Ford?

I live in Nairobi and have paid 5k many times. But it was for very special service with very special ladies. I have also paid the normal 1. 5-2k but it was for a very different type of woman. I didn't expect the same type of service I got when I paid 5k.

Also price depends on where you pick the lady and where you are staying at. If you are staying at the Serena, its not very reasonable to expect to pay 2k for the lady. The rooms cost more than $300 a night. The ladies do have costs. To work the Serena it costs the lady about 3k. She has to tip to get in, tip to be allowed to stay in the bar, and tip to get upstairs.

Different situation if you are picking a girl at Florida and taking her back to a $50 a night hotel.

So like most things in life the answer to what should I pay? Is it depends.

[QUOTE=Arthur66;1114448]7. If you like anal sex, be aware that local girls in general do not even know what is it. Let's stay liking it or even trying it. After much sweet talking, I eventually convinced Lena to get a DATY with a bit of a finger in her butt (a technique that delivers incredible female orgasms when mastered) , but that was already unheard of, and felt strange to her.[/QUOTE]Arthur, you're not the first person to say that. I have to say, though, that it contradicts my experience. I was in Nairobi on business two weeks ago and spent a few days "looking around" before returning home. OK, hardened pros in places such as Madhouse have a very clear idea of what services they offer (and for how much) , but in four days of mongering I had anal sex on two occasions. Without even asking for it.

The first such "date" consisted of a low-end provider whom I picked up on the pavement opposite the Trattoria restaurant. Around 19 yo and very badly dressed she might have been a slum resident, and she probably earns most of her money from STs in cars, etc. I took her to Chester House for the night. The thrill of having a BF with money (and no doubt the hope of return jobs and / or tips) made her go out on a limp. The second time we had sex she blurted out "you want to f*k me in the ass?" I was surprised and told her that I'd understood most girls don't do this and I don't want to hurt her. She insisted "YOU should have fun, honey. Come inside. Let's try." OK, we tried and after a bit of ceremonial moaning from her side we enjoyed a lengthy buttfuck. I didn't disappoint her hopes of a tip. The next morning I took her to a fancy shop and bought her a new blouse of her choice to replace the old rag she was wearing. I also made a lunch appointment with her for the next day. Which ultimately she didn't keep. Perhaps her pimp had other ideas.

The second such "date" was made in a small music bar in Koinange Street named Dolce Vita shortly before midnight. I ran into a slightly tubby girl in her mid-20s, who seemed uninterested at first (a drunken MILF at the bar was busy trying to chat me up) , but joined me easily at my table when I sat down. She agreed to come to my room, but she made it clear that it could be only ST because she had to go home. Once we were in bed she immediately curled up like a U-shape and indicated that I was welcome in her back entrance. Of course, she too had to utter the obligatory moans ("it is paaaainful") but she seemed totally comfortable with what she was doing. Ultimately I think this was a commercial ruse to earn some tips on top of the normal ST fee, to compensate for the fact that she couldn't stay LT. I did in fact tip her. With her service mindedness it would have seemed unfair not to.

So, plenty of anal sex around for those who like it, it would seem? I didn't even have to ask. Or, perhaps it was just beginner's luck?

I look at costs in this way, much like you are buying a candy bar. There's a lot of candy out here in Kenya ranging in different grams, taste and, not tasty but it only looks tasty. Because there is a lot of candy around, everybody seems to sell candy, it must have a big profit to sell candy and there must be a lot of competition to sell candy.

So I pay market price for candy, I can decide for how much I wand to buy candy for, now I only have to find the seller who sells candies at my price and taste.

Off course when the candy is a surprise egg, like a chocolate butt hole which I did not expect, I can always add my appreciation on top of what I've paid to the seller (pimp).

When it comes to buying cars, I'd compare a car with a wife, not with candy.

She'll be there for many years, if second hand you have to know her inside out, her character, manual, costs to maintain her and her fuel consumption.

So, keep on overrating malayas of which you won't know in a few days, all the things you need to know when buying a car, or marrying a wife.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Luvemblack; 1150199]Just to add my 2cents.

I look at cost in this way, much like when you are buying a car there is a range of prices across models. I wouldn't pay Mercedes prices for a Ford. Nor would I expect to get a Mercedes at a the price of a Ford.

So is paying 5K shillings worth it? Well it depends, are you buying the Mercedes or the Ford?

I live in Nairobi and have paid 5k many times. But it was for very special service with very special ladies. I have also paid the normal 1. 5-2k but it was for a very different type of woman. I didn't expect the same type of service I got when I paid 5k.

Also price depends on where you pick the lady and where you are staying at. If you are staying at the Serena, its not very reasonable to expect to pay 2k for the lady. The rooms cost more than $300 a night. The ladies do have costs. To work the Serena it costs the lady about 3k. She has to tip to get in, tip to be allowed to stay in the bar, and tip to get upstairs.

Different situation if you are picking a girl at Florida and taking her back to a $50 a night hotel.

So like most things in life the answer to what should I pay? Is it depends. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Luvemblack;1150199]... Also price depends on where you pick the lady and where you are staying at ...[/QUOTE]That's for sure! If you stay in a Five Star Hotel instead of a budget place, the very same girl would actually quote a higher price. It's understandable, isn't it!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Getting tired of the bar / club scene I decided to shop from the sites for an outcall to my hotel. Liked girls on kenyaraha and looked through classified adds for girls with numbers in profile (so you need not join).

Shortlisted a few and started texting them until I recv'd responses. Of the responses this night, Sophy was the most attractive and well-priced. SURPRISE: the hot girl in add was not girl that showed at hotel.

Instead, I was treated to an attractive girl around 23, very tight frame, thin waste, ample ass, a cups. I won't disclose her real name but she divulged that many on kenyaraha don't use real pix (caveat emptor). Because I remained pleased with what stood in front of me, I didn't turn her away.

Overall, she was good looking but a bad lay. She states GFE but really didn't know what it meant. No kissing, no BBBJ, no DATY, no A service, no inside vaginal massage. And then she complained I was too big so I couldn't even deep stroke. Had to finish with HJ. Now informed of what GFE really means, she told me she's removing it from her profile. I told her others could get upset at her false advertising, but frankly, she has enough asian and scandanavian clients who don't care about the Bait / Switch.

Won't call her back despite her pleasant disposition but others; YMMV

Getting tired of the bar / club scene I decided to shop from the sites for an outcall to my hotel. Liked girls on hookup. Co. Ke and looked through classified adds for girls with numbers in profile (so you need not join).

Found Kate (aka Lara / Lisa) after my last exp with another site, when I first texted her I asked point blank if she was girl in picture, and reiterated that if she was not, I would turn her away immediately at her own cabfair expense. She insisted she was girl in pic, so we proceeded to negotiate. Expansive menu (everything but A-service) good 2 hour price. Unfortunately there was a hitch, she's a massage parlor girl (out of Westlands) and when you request outcalls she still has to revert a 'house fee'. This actually makes her more expensive then independents.

So I tried to negotiate a reduced house fee with her handler (marginally successful. 25% lower) and also added an incentive structure for Kate. Would pay her nominal 2hour fee and tip based on her performance / ability to drive me nuts. Let me say this p4p / p4p (pay for pussy / pay for performance) incentive I may have to try again!

Kate arrived, was as pictured, but seems it was a few years old. She's still hot, but older than her picture. We mutually showered, but unlike Asian AMPs no BBBJ. Just mutual scrubbing. Off to bedroom.

Massagge was good, hit all the right spots. Then flip to full service. Knowing she could make more for doing me right. She did (msog) and was tipped.

Total paid 7000 including her housefee and tip. You get what you pay for and this 7000 was worth it for 2hours of hot sex.

Would see her again but not sure if I outcall her or just see her in her massage place. I'll probably save a few bobs in the process.

[QUOTE=BKKguy; 1150761]. Total paid 7000 including her housefee and tip. You get what you pay for and this 7000 was worth it for 2hours of hot sex... [/QUOTE]

Wow, and you really think it was worth it? I am just wondering since 7000 KHS is truly a damn high price and according to my experience you get easily a cuty for half the amount - for LT, of course!

Cheers.

Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Hesekiels; 1150932]Wow, and you really think it was worth it? I am just wondering since 7000 KHS is truly a damn high price and according to my experience you get easily a cuty for half the amount. For LT, of course!

Cheers.

Hesekiels[/QUOTE]Hes-

Your arguments are true, you can have a two hour session for 1/2 the price. But I've found that you get what you pay for.

Many girls in NBO are not full time providers. And the full time providers typically can be found in CBD, but they bore me, and / or are into rushing the session, or only one shot wonders.

This time I tried something diff (by choosing an outcall). Won't do this all the time, but remember, I had to pay the housefee to release her from her mp. Not intending to screw up market prices. But my MSOGs and her attention to service made it worthwhile for me. She actually LIKES to screw. YMMV.

My last night in NBO and I wanted to see if my luck would continue. Heard of Angelia and reviewed her sight: [url]http://www.angelia55.webs.com.[/url] Only had euros left and paid her 50euros for 60mins.

Her pics are real, her attitude professional and attentive. She wants you to feel good and pass the word around. She's looking for regulars.

Like my last post, she's more exp then the avg provider, but that's because she's an above avg provider.

She came to my place, and I REALLY enjoyed who arrived at the door. Finally one that looks better than pictured.

My new ATF in NBO.

Angelia. 0714404505.

Note: get her early in the day, she's busy and more fresh in the early afternoon.

Hi bros,

Anyone got a contact for Chester House? Their site is down. I tried an email, but it bounced back. Are they still operating?

[QUOTE=Priamos;1150450]So, plenty of anal sex around for those who like it, it would seem? I didn't even have to ask. Or, perhaps it was just beginner's luck?[/QUOTE]I have to concur with this statement. You will not get anal with most of the GF girls you find through Facebook or at a normal bar / shopping mall. They are simply not used to it or have had bad experience. However, picking up a girl from Florida or a pro from the side walk towards YaYa center, I have been lucky many times. Also in Mombasa, anal sex is not unheard of (from a pro that is). Initially, they are mostly reluctant of doing so, but with a bit of fingering, licking and convincing you mostly will be lucky. The last anal I had was with a big mama outside Yaya center, with lactating titts the size of my head. She was open enough in her ass so no fingering / preparing was needed, and the hole was clean. She actually did seem to enjoy it, and I liked it more since it was tighter than her pussy.

So, just insist and tease her butthole with your pecker and you will shortly see if its going to be a go or no.

[QUOTE=BKKguy; 1150962]Hes-

Your arguments are true, you can have a two hour session for 1/2 the price. But I've found that you get what you pay for. [/QUOTE]The only thing that really matters is that you had a good time! Great that you had enjoyed these moments!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Luvemblack; 1150199]Just to add my 2cents.

I look at cost in this way, much like when you are buying a car there is a range of prices across models. I wouldn't pay Mercedes prices for a Ford. Nor would I expect to get a Mercedes at a the price of a Ford.

So is paying 5K shillings worth it? Well it depends, are you buying the Mercedes or the Ford?

I live in Nairobi and have paid 5k many times. But it was for very special service with very special ladies. I have also paid the normal 1. 5-2k but it was for a very different type of woman. I didn't expect the same type of service I got when I paid 5k.

Also price depends on where you pick the lady and where you are staying at. If you are staying at the Serena, its not very reasonable to expect to pay 2k for the lady. The rooms cost more than $300 a night. The ladies do have costs. To work the Serena it costs the lady about 3k. She has to tip to get in, tip to be allowed to stay in the bar, and tip to get upstairs.

Different situation if you are picking a girl at Florida and taking her back to a $50 a night hotel.

So like most things in life the answer to what should I pay? Is it depends.[/QUOTE]Luvemblack, I totally concur!

After all, it's YOUR OWN enjoyment we are talking about, and in case you don't enjoy the encounter, a bargain basement price won't EVER be adequate compensation for the lack of enjoyment.

I know the "KES 1, 500 max " Price Police will never agree + hope that all situations in life would be this clear cut and simple!

Was chatting with this gal for some weeks.

We met for coffe and she was happy to visit my room.

Sweet pussy

[QUOTE=Zamziv; 1151523]Was chatting with this gal for some weeks.

We met for coffe and she was happy to visit my room.

Sweet pussy[/QUOTE]Nice one, let us see more please. Is she available for us?

This website is excellent for finding out where to find women and their cost. But what about girl friendly hassle free (I. E. They don't ask questions, they don't ask for the girl's I'd, and they allow 2 girls into your room) hotels in Nairobi?

Please send me a private message if you know of any hassle free girl friendly hotels under $50 a night in Nairobi.

I'm planning a trip to Nairobi (I'm only 3 hours away by plane) and would be interested in organizing a 4 some or 5 some with another straight white male. (have a thing for Oreo cookies!) Maybe I'm dreaming but the idea would be to find 2 or 3 girls (preferably and authentically bi) that would be interested in a nice sex party for a max of maybe 4 or 5 hours during the day. Idea: We could book the girls in advance after picking them out from Madhouse. I suppose the greatest challenge will be to find a girl friendly hotel or we could split the cost of renting an apartment for just the day. We could spice it up by adding bonus shillings for those willing to try DP or for those who win a DT contest.

If anyone is interested in my freaky idea send me a private message.

Anyone in Nairobi now. Be cool to have someone to have a beer with while chasing hawties

Had good luck today. Met a gal on afro. Was up front while chatting online and she was agreeable. Came over to my place and I was pleasantly surprised as she was better looking in person than in her pics (around 5'6" and 110lbs. Youthful C-cup). Definitely not a florida pro but more of the hot coed you see at the coffee shop. After a bit of chatting we proceeded to have some passionate gf type lovemaking session. Was certainly a non-pro as she did not seem to want to give BJ and was slow to respond to oral. But warmed up and did enjoy herself. In 2 and a half hours we made love 3 times and I got a very good massage. Probably the second best girl I have had in Nairobi. Will be seeing her again. All around I would rate her an 8. If she gets into giving BJ's she will be a solid 9 and maybe more.

If anyone wants her afro or skype contact info send me a pm

[QUOTE=Wdarryl; 1152160]Had good luck today. Met a gal on afro. Was up front while chatting online and she was agreeable. Came over to my place and I was pleasantly surprised as she was better looking in person than in her pics (around 5'6" and 110lbs. Youthful C-cup). Definitely not a florida pro but more of the hot coed you see at the coffee shop. After a bit of chatting we proceeded to have some passionate gf type lovemaking session. Was certainly a non-pro as she did not seem to want to give BJ and was slow to respond to oral. But warmed up and did enjoy herself. In 2 and a half hours we made love 3 times and I got a very good massage. Probably the second best girl I have had in Nairobi. Will be seeing her again. All around I would rate her an 8. If she gets into giving BJ's she will be a solid 9 and maybe more.

If anyone wants her afro or skype contact info send me a pm[/QUOTE]This is the beauty of Afro in Kenya. Yes, as Willyboy and others have pointed out, there are many pros on here. But yes also that there are many semi-pros (hell, I had one who lived about 10 miles outside of Nairobi in a corrugated tin shack with no toilet or running water) like this one which Wdarryl describes.

I miss Kenya.

[QUOTE=Interracial;1152048]This website is excellent for finding out where to find women and their cost. But what about girl friendly hassle free (I. E. They don't ask questions, they don't ask for the girl's I'd, and they allow 2 girls into your room) hotels in Nairobi?[/QUOTE]Why should they ask any questions if you bring two girls to your room? And to present their ID's at the reception is quite normal and for your own security! So, do not feel all too embarressed while registering your cuty and enjoy your time!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Interracial; 1152064]I'm planning a trip to Nairobi (I'm only 3 hours away by plane) and would be interested in organizing a 4 some or 5 some with another straight white male. (have a thing for Oreo cookies!) Maybe I'm dreaming but the idea would be to find 2 or 3 girls (preferably and authentically bi) that would be interested in a nice sex party for a max of maybe 4 or 5 hours during the day. Idea: We could book the girls in advance after picking them out from Madhouse. I suppose the greatest challenge will be to find a girl friendly hotel or we could split the cost of renting an apartment for just the day. We could spice it up by adding bonus shillings for those willing to try DP or for those who win a DT contest.

If anyone is interested in my freaky idea send me a private message. [/QUOTE]Appears like you are looking for a white man to fulfill your fantasy. You are traveling to the wrong country

I mostly agree and to each his own. One point of clarification though, I have the luxury of living in Kenya so I have lots of time to pick and choose. When I pay 5k, its someone who I know well. They are not "florida" girls and frankly you would never know they are working. Nairobi has a wide range of ladies, if it was chocolate it would be Godiva.

[QUOTE=Expat Kenya; 1150583]I look at costs in this way, much like you are buying a candy bar. There's a lot of candy out here in Kenya ranging in different grams, taste and, not tasty but it only looks tasty. Because there is a lot of candy around, everybody seems to sell candy, it must have a big profit to sell candy and there must be a lot of competition to sell candy.

So I pay market price for candy, I can decide for how much I wand to buy candy for, now I only have to find the seller who sells candies at my price and taste.

Off course when the candy is a surprise egg, like a chocolate butt hole which I did not expect, I can always add my appreciation on top of what I've paid to the seller (pimp).

When it comes to buying cars, I'd compare a car with a wife, not with candy.

She'll be there for many years, if second hand you have to know her inside out, her character, manual, costs to maintain her and her fuel consumption.

So, keep on overrating malayas of which you won't know in a few days, all the things you need to know when buying a car, or marrying a wife.

Cheers[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ze Gato;1152797]Appears like you are looking for a white man to fulfill your fantasy. You are traveling to the wrong country[/QUOTE]Already have 2 other white guys who travel to Kenya who are interested in my idea. Kenya IS the country for this since the beautiful black girls and attitude in Kenya is keen for this. Will post when it happens.

[QUOTE=Hesekiels; 1152720]Why should they ask any questions if you bring two girls to your room? And to present their I'd's at the reception is quite normal and for your own security! So, do not feel all too embarressed while registering your cuty and enjoy your time!

Cheers!

Hesekiels[/QUOTE]You are absolutely right, might rent an apt and take a chance

[QUOTE=Interracial;1153058]... might rent an apt and take a chance[/QUOTE]Sure, depending on the time you are going to spend in Kenya, it might be indeed an excellent option!

Have a great time!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

[QUOTE=BKKguy; 1150761]Getting tired of the bar / club scene I decided to shop from the sites for an outcall to my hotel. Liked girls on hookup. Co. Ke and looked through classified adds for girls with numbers in profile (so you need not join).

Found Kate (aka Lara / Lisa) after my last exp with another site, when I first texted her I asked point blank if she was girl in picture, and reiterated that if she was not, I would turn her away immediately at her own cabfair expense. She insisted she was girl in pic, so we proceeded to negotiate. Expansive menu (everything but A-service) good 2 hour price. Unfortunately there was a hitch, she's a massage parlor girl (out of Westlands) and when you request outcalls she still has to revert a 'house fee'. This actually makes her more expensive then independents.

So I tried to negotiate a reduced house fee with her handler (marginally successful. 25% lower) and also added an incentive structure for Kate. Would pay her nominal 2hour fee and tip based on her performance / ability to drive me nuts. Let me say this p4p / p4p (pay for pussy / pay for performance) incentive I may have to try again!

Kate arrived, was as pictured, but seems it was a few years old. She's still hot, but older than her picture. We mutually showered, but unlike Asian AMPs no BBBJ. Just mutual scrubbing. Off to bedroom.

Massagge was good, hit all the right spots. Then flip to full service. Knowing she could make more for doing me right. She did (msog) and was tipped.

Total paid 7000 including her housefee and tip. You get what you pay for and this 7000 was worth it for 2hours of hot sex.

Would see her again but not sure if I outcall her or just see her in her massage place. I'll probably save a few bobs in the process.[/QUOTE]Only idiots paying 7000ksh for 2h; I was 4 nights with differents girls in my room, end also with perfeckt service. When this beginners will laerning albout the prices from malayas in kenya?

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1154391]Only idiots paying 7000ksh for 2h; I was 4 nights with differents girls in my room, end also with perfeckt service. When this beginners will laerning albout the prices from malayas in kenya?[/QUOTE]Willy do not treat african girls like door mats please try to br human, they are simply trying to survive and pay for there bills. Imagine it was your daughter being treated the way you doing. Why pay little to one girl if you can change the well being of one. Try sticking to one girl for one holiday and change to onother the next. Be human life is not all about money.

[QUOTE=Bondvan200;1154681]Willy do not treat african girls like door mats please try to br human, they are simply trying to survive and pay for there bills. Imagine it was your daughter being treated the way you doing. Why pay little to one girl if you can change the well being of one. Try sticking to one girl for one holiday and change to onother the next. Be human life is not all about money.[/QUOTE]One girl during one full holiday. No thanks. Not for my. Bata schoe schop is waiting for you. To pay the rent of her house? ATM mzungu. Anater terribel misthake?

[QUOTE=Bondvan200;1154681]Willy do not treat african girls like door mats please try to br human, they are simply trying to survive and pay for there bills. Imagine it was your daughter being treated the way you doing. Why pay little to one girl if you can change the well being of one. Try sticking to one girl for one holiday and change to onother the next. Be human life is not all about money.[/QUOTE]Insite Kenya going all thinks about money. Only sun going up for free in this country. By carfull in kenya. You will losed your last slip. To pay 2000ksh / night is more than your roomclaener (one weeck to work). Your roomclaener will choising very fast for malaya job! Very soon you making your bed by yourself. No roomclaeners!

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1154391]Only idiots paying 7000ksh for 2h; I was 4 nights with differents girls in my room, end also with perfeckt service. When this beginners will laerning albout the prices from malayas in kenya?[/QUOTE]Agreed Willyboy but some guys never learn. You have guys who think they are too young and good looking to help the girls out after their 'rumpypumpy' and then there are the guys who the girls regard as more of a work in progress to put it kindly and ask them for more than the market rate. How many times do we discuss and explain the average Kenyan earns 5000-8000 KES per month. Finally, there will always be the production line of guys out there who want to spoil / ruin the girls / destinations for their fellow comrades in arms by giving them that for a couple of hours. Maybe we should take them on a tour of the places near River Road where Kenyan guys have their 'rumpypumpy' for 200KES. Sue from 'Nairobi nights ' fame and her friends go to these places when they can't find a mzungu who can be fooled into thinking they are good girls on Afro or others who want to just shower them with cash. Let's stop wasting our breath and go back to tales of bedroom gymnastics.

[QUOTE=Bondvan200;1154681]Willy do not treat african girls like door mats please try to br human, they are simply trying to survive and pay for there bills. Imagine it was your daughter being treated the way you doing. Why pay little to one girl if you can change the well being of one. Try sticking to one girl for one holiday and change to onother the next. Be human life is not all about money.[/QUOTE]The difference IS the money. It is different when a student girl tries to make ends meet to pay school fees, temporary looks for mzungu money or when she quits school to do full time prostitution because it pays damn more than an office job after collage. Its a difference when Kenyan men, attracted by the money the girls are making, try to parasite on her fruits of services, while she thinks its real love. It is a difference when a girl gets old, no mzungu to claim her and bring her to a better situation, she has a child of the Mzungu but no serious Kenyan man will ever marry her and accept her status in life.

Imagine what, good or bad, your money might do today, and, tomorrow! Even orphanages, schools and other projects depending on charity have become big business."Western Union love" has become an industry on its own. Think of fellows who can read on the whole internet that Kenyan ladies are not faithful etc etc. All because of money.

[QUOTE=Luvemblack;1152844]I mostly agree and to each his own. One point of clarification though, I have the luxury of living in Kenya so I have lots of time to pick and choose.[/QUOTE]That makes a big difference, living in Kenya, having the time to get to know them and knowing the girls characters. I am always surprised Mzungus believe all kinds of stories, they think they have a clue about the girl but in real sense, these girls have become crooks.

Once I believed dramatic stories too, than one day a girl told me these stories are just merchandise, exchanged between girls to get money from mzungus. Than I woke up.

This forum will never cease to amaze me. Could it be actually true that a member of this forum paid a malaya 7000 shillings, then found it okay to announce it here? I can't stop laughing! Okay, maybe I have the advantage of being a black African, and a native Kenyan. That means that if I want, I can go to sabasaba and pay 200 ksh. But, since I don't want to lie on a bed with lice, I prefer to go to Casablanca and pay a little more. But I still don't want to believe that anyone would willingly pay 7k for one night. Why, do you own a diamond mine in Botswana? Even if you do, its simply silly! That is the reason the rest of us find the prices going up, because some monger has decided to play father Christmas. Why do we join this forum? Is it not to learn from each other? Then why would one who is a member here, who has read all the previous posts on the subject of prices, still go out and do something like that? If you want to spoil the market rates, at least have the decency not to announce it here!

[QUOTE=Tonkazan;1155449]This forum will never cease to amaze me. Could it be actually true that a member of this forum paid a malaya 7000 shillings, then found it okay to announce it here? I can't stop laughing! Okay, maybe I have the advantage of being a black African, and a native Kenyan. That means that if I want, I can go to sabasaba and pay 200 ksh. But, since I don't want to lie on a bed with lice, I prefer to go to Casablanca and pay a little more. But I still don't want to believe that anyone would willingly pay 7k for one night. Why, do you own a diamond mine in Botswana? Even if you do, its simply silly! That is the reason the rest of us find the prices going up, because some monger has decided to play father Christmas. Why do we join this forum? Is it not to learn from each other? Then why would one who is a member here, who has read all the previous posts on the subject of prices, still go out and do something like that? If you want to spoil the market rates, at least have the decency not to announce it here![/QUOTE]Yes, spot on maybe Jackson could save us from having to repeat ourselves by banning anyone from posting if they admit to paying ridiculous prices to 'play hide the sausage' on the forum. I have seen many a destination for us fellow hunters on safari ruined and Kenya will go the same way eventually.

[QUOTE=Jbond;1155480]Yes, spot on maybe Jackson could save us from having to repeat ourselves by banning anyone from posting if they admit to paying ridiculous prices to 'play hide the sausage' on the forum. I have seen many a destination for us fellow hunters on safari ruined and Kenya will go the same way eventually.[/QUOTE]Agreed, prices will meet international levels at some point, but more likely due to economic development over the next decades rather than due to a few hopeless guys ignoring market rates. Remember, everyone deserves a lucky day.

[QUOTE=Expat Kenya; 1154931]The difference IS the money. It is different when a student girl tries to make ends meet to pay school fees, temporary looks for mzungu money or when she quits school to do full time prostitution because it pays damn more than an office job after collage. Its a difference when Kenyan men, attracted by the money the girls are making, try to parasite on her fruits of services, while she thinks its real love. It is a difference when a girl gets old, no mzungu to claim her and bring her to a better situation, she has a child of the Mzungu but no serious Kenyan man will ever marry her and accept her status in life.

Imagine what, good or bad, your money might do today, and, tomorrow! Even orphanages, schools and other projects depending on charity have become big business."Western Union love" has become an industry on its own. Think of fellows who can read on the whole internet that Kenyan ladies are not faithful etc etc. All because of money.

That makes a big difference, living in Kenya, having the time to get to know them and knowing the girls characters. I am always surprised Mzungus believe all kinds of stories, they think they have a clue about the girl but in real sense, these girls have become crooks.

Once I believed dramatic stories too, than one day a girl told me these stories are just merchandise, exchanged between girls to get money from mzungus. Than I woke up. [/QUOTE]This is a very good explanation of the situation for women in most African countries, even the 'middle' classes'. Even today in 2011 most men who graduate with a Bachelor's degree in the social sciences in Africa will end up with a very poor paying desk job in the gov't. It is hard to believe that even today these men will get their only good paying jobs from foreign aid (UN, ADB, World Bank, or they set up their own charity and get foreign aid). You can imagine that if the men are having trouble earning a living, just imagine the women. I 'married' a women from Ghana who was 'middle class' but still was very desperate to marry me to get out of Ghana since she was never going to get a good paying job in Ghana. I could have gone to the airport and not given her a dime but I gave her $4000 USA as part of the divorce. It paid for her entire 4 years tuition, too bad it was at a bad, unaccredited 'university' in Ghana. When I told her I could have just left she said "I would get you!". This shows just how desperate they are for the mzungu money. For those crazy enough, don't marry them unless you are a fascist! Or at least a Christian conservative fundamentalist.

[QUOTE=Jhack111;1155637]Agreed, prices will meet international levels at some point, but more likely due to economic development over the next decades rather than due to a few hopeless guys ignoring market rates. Remember, everyone deserves a lucky day.[/QUOTE]I agree.

I do not htink the local mongering prices are affected much by some (10? 20?) guys overpaying.

As you said, that will be the "lucky day" of the WG, but will not establish the official rate.

Take China, where everything is increasing now: salaries, prices and. WG rates. Certainly not because few dudes felt good by overpaying. But because of the general economy.

Of course the level of some WG will make them believe a "lucky day" will follow one after the other and might be tempted to demand the higher price paid by someone the day before.

If there are 10 guys each day in the local market overpaying, how are the chances that those girls will bump into them, when there are maybe 100 or 150 guys (or more) demanding their services.

But after 4. 5 or ten times they bang their head and go back home empty handed they will understand "lucky day" only comes few times and unexpectedly, so better not push too much their luck.

Fellow hobbyists. I've been offline for a week or so and am now catching and apparently catching hell for my ksh 7000 payment to a massage girl in westlands for 2hr.

Wow, first of all, a note about me. I make a healthy £six figure salary and frankly, will spend my quid as I please. 2nd, I'm not looking for a 10min fast fuck with malaya Bush girls but a nice GFE from a courtesan who knows how to entertain gentlemen, is DDF and allows MSOGs. I've spent time in Florida and am always disappointed with the quality and endurance of the 'pros'. So, I tried something different in outcalling a massage girl.

That said, if you read the post well, you'll see that I only paid her ksh3k for her two hours. Because I called a massage place in Westlands, they informed me that in order to have her outcall, I had to pay them ksh4k. I actually WENT to the massage place on another occasion so they knew me. Did they hustle me? Perhaps.

I live in Bangkok, where it is standard practice to pay barfines to have girls check out to go with joes.

Did I pay too much, I'm seeing from you experts that I did. But did I have a good time? Sure I did. So, what do you care how much I paid? The point of the board is to discuss performance, and provide tips. I welcome any PMs from you 'pros' to help me in my future endeavors.

Meanwhile, back to the pussy.

Guy

[QUOTE=BKKguy; 1156468]Fellow hobbyists. I've been offline for a week or so and am now catching and apparently catching hell for my ksh 7000 payment to a massage girl in westlands for 2hr.

Wow, first of all, a note about me. I make a healthy £six figure salary and frankly, will spend my quid as I please. 2nd, I'm not looking for a 10min fast fuck with malaya Bush girls but a nice GFE from a courtesan who knows how to entertain gentlemen, is DDF and allows MSOGs. I've spent time in Florida and am always disappointed with the quality and endurance of the 'pros'. So, I tried something different in outcalling a massage girl.

That said, if you read the post well, you'll see that I only paid her ksh3k for her two hours. Because I called a massage place in Westlands, they informed me that in order to have her outcall, I had to pay them ksh4k. I actually WENT to the massage place on another occasion so they knew me. Did they hustle me? Perhaps.

I live in Bangkok, where it is standard practice to pay barfines to have girls check out to go with joes.

Did I pay too much, I'm seeing from you experts that I did. But did I have a good time? Sure I did. So, what do you care how much I paid? The point of the board is to discuss performance, and provide tips. I welcome any PMs from you 'pros' to help me in my future endeavors.

Meanwhile, back to the pussy.

Guy[/QUOTE]If you live in Bangkok there is no need to pay barfine for the bar girls, you're doing something wrong. Why do not collect telephone numbers and call them by phone after work. For someone who supposedly lives there, it is not necessary to pay in a bar barfine. There are other opportunities to meet many nice girls. So tell us no nonsense. I've worked a long time even in Bangkok, after a short time it was no longer necessary to go to the tourist areas and pay barfine.

But you know that by yourself, if you live there. So tell us no bullshit.

Wenzman

Thanks to the Dicktators in Africa we have this problem of women not having the opportunity to benefit from a growing economy. Instead, these dictators in Africa crowd out and control most of the economy for their own benefit and a small elite class (military included) of mostly men. Those left out depend on foreign aid for a decent wage. Just look at Ghana and the difference after the dictator Rawlings stepped down (bless his soul, most dicks don; t do that, hence the problem) Although it is slow, the economy in Ghana is no longer in the control of a dicktator so more people are climbing out of poverty and getting a share of the wealth created. Not the case in most African countries where dicktators continue to rule. Don't send aid to African countries that are still run by dicktators, send it only to those countries that have had free, fair, competitive, and regular elections. Otherwise, you are keeping the dicks in power.

[QUOTE=Expat Kenya; 1154931]The difference IS the money. It is different when a student girl tries to make ends meet to pay school fees, temporary looks for mzungu money or when she quits school to do full time prostitution because it pays damn more than an office job after collage. Its a difference when Kenyan men, attracted by the money the girls are making, try to parasite on her fruits of services, while she thinks its real love. It is a difference when a girl gets old, no mzungu to claim her and bring her to a better situation, she has a child of the Mzungu but no serious Kenyan man will ever marry her and accept her status in life.

Imagine what, good or bad, your money might do today, and, tomorrow! Even orphanages, schools and other projects depending on charity have become big business."Western Union love" has become an industry on its own. Think of fellows who can read on the whole internet that Kenyan ladies are not faithful etc etc. All because of money.

That makes a big difference, living in Kenya, having the time to get to know them and knowing the girls characters. I am always surprised Mzungus believe all kinds of stories, they think they have a clue about the girl but in real sense, these girls have become crooks.

Once I believed dramatic stories too, than one day a girl told me these stories are just merchandise, exchanged between girls to get money from mzungus. Than I woke up. [/QUOTE]

On the stories front yes most are complete lies. When I was "new" I believed them. Now though I mostly don't. I have a select few girls I am friends with. A couple are working girls and the stories they tell are amazing. One has a boyfriend in Germany who send her money every month. She feeds him lies that amaze me. He pays for everything and only sees her twice a year. Another has a kid with a mzungu who send her $2. 5k every month. She drives a nicer car than mine.

[QUOTE=Expat Kenya; 1154931]The difference IS the money. It is different when a student girl tries to make ends meet to pay school fees, temporary looks for mzungu money or when she quits school to do full time prostitution because it pays damn more than an office job after collage. Its a difference when Kenyan men, attracted by the money the girls are making, try to parasite on her fruits of services, while she thinks its real love. It is a difference when a girl gets old, no mzungu to claim her and bring her to a better situation, she has a child of the Mzungu but no serious Kenyan man will ever marry her and accept her status in life.

Imagine what, good or bad, your money might do today, and, tomorrow! Even orphanages, schools and other projects depending on charity have become big business."Western Union love" has become an industry on its own. Think of fellows who can read on the whole internet that Kenyan ladies are not faithful etc etc. All because of money.

That makes a big difference, living in Kenya, having the time to get to know them and knowing the girls characters. I am always surprised Mzungus believe all kinds of stories, they think they have a clue about the girl but in real sense, these girls have become crooks.

Once I believed dramatic stories too, than one day a girl told me these stories are just merchandise, exchanged between girls to get money from mzungus. Than I woke up. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Luvemblack;1157372]On the stories front yes most are complete lies. When I was "new" I believed them. Now though I mostly don't. I have a select few girls I am friends with. A couple are working girls and the stories they tell are amazing. One has a boyfriend in Germany who send her money every month. She feeds him lies that amaze me. He pays for everything and only sees her twice a year. Another has a kid with a mzungu who send her $2. 5k every month. She drives a nicer car than mine.[/QUOTE]Mzungus not only paying cars for girls, no apartments. I now one girl, this girl having from 5 mzungus 10. 000ksh month. Mzungus open hairdress salons, Paying 40. 000ksh to dentist. Sitting many thimes in waiting rooms from dentist. To craesy to now all this. Why to work in hotels for less than 10. 000ksh / month end mzungus sending more than 5 monthsalerys. Only to go to western union the first of the month.

This malaya.

[QUOTE=Luvemblack;1157372]On the stories front yes most are complete lies. When I was "new" I believed them. Now though I mostly don't. I have a select few girls I am friends with. A couple are working girls and the stories they tell are amazing. One has a boyfriend in Germany who send her money every month. She feeds him lies that amaze me. He pays for everything and only sees her twice a year. Another has a kid with a mzungu who send her $2. 5k every month. She drives a nicer car than mine.[/QUOTE]It's amazing how dumb some white men there who swallow the lies of those girls. They invest the money gained simply more white men to snare. I laughed my a break when I see everything. One visit they sit at the bar and the next visit with one another. They do not know where they should keep their heads. I laugh myself to death. . Love your fellow Co-sponsorship of hands if you're not in Kenya. It's really lost money. This is served in your own country.

[QUOTE=Luvemblack;1157372]On the stories front yes most are complete lies. When I was "new" I believed them. Now though I mostly don't. ...[/QUOTE]Same here! And when you have learned your first lessons, then mongering makes more fun and is much cheaper as well! Or am I wrong?

Cheers!

Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1157494]It's amazing how dumb some white men there who swallow the lies of those girls. They invest the money gained simply more white men to snare. I laughed my a break when I see everything. One visit they sit at the bar and the next visit with one another. They do not know where they should keep their heads. I laugh myself to death. . Love your fellow Co-sponsorship of hands if you're not in Kenya. It's really lost money. This is served in your own country.[/QUOTE]Willyboy my friend, you use google translate. Right?

I got sort of suckered (I could have just gone to the airport and given her nothing) on a marriage. I really tried to work it out but the ignorance and literal belief in the Bible got me to say: You ain`t getting a passport from a Western country for this stuff. She was from Ghana lying about how `little`the $4, 000 USD was I gave her for the divorce. Thank Stanley it went to her father. He used it pay her entire 4 years university tuition (1200 USD per year) She lied it was not enough money. She also lied she would never get married again and got married easily within the year. Even after the divorce, she was still trying to hit on me for money. Private message me if you want her name just in case to avoid her. When I told her I could have gone to the airport and not give her anything she said ``I will get you! ` Sick. This was in Ghana but post is relevant here I hope.

[QUOTE=Luvemblack;1157372]On the stories front yes most are complete lies. When I was "new" I believed them. Now though I mostly don't. I have a select few girls I am friends with. A couple are working girls and the stories they tell are amazing. One has a boyfriend in Germany who send her money every month. She feeds him lies that amaze me. He pays for everything and only sees her twice a year. Another has a kid with a mzungu who send her $2. 5k every month. She drives a nicer car than mine.[/QUOTE]

I am making my first trip to Nairobi in about two weeks and have a reservation at the Crowne Plaza downtown. I know it is close to the action, but I have no idea whether it is girl friendly. Of course, I first RTFF but there is not much mention of this place.

I got some great advice from RTFF about Chester House, but my company wants me in the Crowne Plaza.

What do you fellas think? Are there significant drawbacks to the Crowne Plaza? Should I go to the Chester House anyway? Are there other western hotels in the area that I can try to substitute for the Crowne Plaza without drawing too much attention to myself?

My number one priority is safety, second is girl friend friendly, third is comfort. What do you fellows suggest? Sorry to clog the forum on this issue, but since the Crowne Plaza is rarely mentioned, I would like your advice.

Thanks!

This is my first post on this board after years of lurking. I am pleased to say I'm booked for my first trip to Africa. I land in Nairobi about July 15 and stay for 3 weeks. I have researched this site exhaustively and wish to thank the many posters for their excellent information. I probably wouldn't attempt this trip without your kind help.

I live in Canada and have always wanted to go to Africa. I've been to DR numerous times and once to Thailand. I promise to post a trip report. I have some additional questions for you. Please feel free to pm me if you wish.

1. My plan is a week in Nairobi, then a week in Mombasa, then a week back in Nairobi before flying out for a total of 3 weeks. Is this a good plan? What is the train between Nairobi and Mombasa like? Is the train the best way to go? Should my Mombasa stay be longer. I guess I'm asking for an assessment of the relative merits of Nairobi vs Mombasa and where, assuming my primary focus is women, will I have the most fun?

2. I'm booked in Chester House in Nairobi in a one bedroom apartment; thanks to the great advice on this board for recommending this. Where should I stay in Mombasa?

3. Is it safe / secure to bring a lap top? I wouldn't want it stolen and lap tops seldom fit into hotel room safes, to the extent there is one.

4. How do you handle finances? Do you travel with lots of easily convertible currencies like dollars or euros? Do you exchange these in banks or are there easy to find cambios? Do you use travelers cheques? Are ATMs easily available?

5. What is the rough budget for a day in Kenya; excluding hotel – but including food, drinks, taxis, general sight-seeing and, most importantly, girls? In DR, for example, I would spend an average of $150 a day excluding hotel. This seems high for Kenya; is it?

Many thanks in advance. I promise a very detailed report.

[QUOTE=Ellington; 1159510]This is my first post on this board after years of lurking. I am pleased to say I'm booked for my first trip to Africa. I land in Nairobi about July 15 and stay for 3 weeks. I have researched this site exhaustively and wish to thank the many posters for their excellent information. I probably wouldn't attempt this trip without your kind help.

I live in Canada and have always wanted to go to Africa. I've been to DR numerous times and once to Thailand. I promise to post a trip report. I have some additional questions for you. Please feel free to pm me if you wish.

1. My plan is a week in Nairobi, then a week in Mombasa, then a week back in Nairobi before flying out for a total of 3 weeks. Is this a good plan? What is the train between Nairobi and Mombasa like? Is the train the best way to go? Should my Mombasa stay be longer. I guess I'm asking for an assessment of the relative merits of Nairobi vs Mombasa and where, assuming my primary focus is women, will I have the most fun?

2. I'm booked in Chester House in Nairobi in a one bedroom apartment; thanks to the great advice on this board for recommending this. Where should I stay in Mombasa?

3. Is it safe / secure to bring a lap top? I wouldn't want it stolen and lap tops seldom fit into hotel room safes, to the extent there is one.

4. How do you handle finances? Do you travel with lots of easily convertible currencies like dollars or euros? Do you exchange these in banks or are there easy to find cambios? Do you use travelers cheques? Are ATMs easily available?

5. What is the rough budget for a day in Kenya; excluding hotel – but including food, drinks, taxis, general sight-seeing and, most importantly, girls? In DR, for example, I would spend an average of $150 a day excluding hotel. This seems high for Kenya; is it?

Many thanks in advance. I promise a very detailed report. [/QUOTE]150 dollar / day is not bad. If you now that workers from Kenya having 5 dollar / day (end paying rent from this money) 3000dollar or 20 days in Kenya (without accomodation) Good enough to distroy marktprices for adder mongers. Where is this company where you work? I will ask for one job!

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1159566]150 dollar / day is not bad. If you now that workers from Kenya having 5 dollar / day (end paying rent from this money) 3000dollar or 20 days in Kenya (without accomodation) Good enough to distroy marktprices for adder mongers. Where is this company where you work? I will ask for one job![/QUOTE]I would never destroy a market place. Such a thing is against my interest.

[QUOTE=Ellington; 1159510]This is my first post on this board after years of lurking. I am pleased to say I'm booked for my first trip to Africa. I land in Nairobi about July 15 and stay for 3 weeks. I have researched this site exhaustively and wish to thank the many posters for their excellent information. I probably wouldn't attempt this trip without your kind help.

I live in Canada and have always wanted to go to Africa. I've been to DR numerous times and once to Thailand. I promise to post a trip report. I have some additional questions for you. Please feel free to pm me if you wish.

1. My plan is a week in Nairobi, then a week in Mombasa, then a week back in Nairobi before flying out for a total of 3 weeks. Is this a good plan? What is the train between Nairobi and Mombasa like? Is the train the best way to go? Should my Mombasa stay be longer. I guess I'm asking for an assessment of the relative merits of Nairobi vs Mombasa and where, assuming my primary focus is women, will I have the most fun?

2. I'm booked in Chester House in Nairobi in a one bedroom apartment; thanks to the great advice on this board for recommending this. Where should I stay in Mombasa?

3. Is it safe / secure to bring a lap top? I wouldn't want it stolen and lap tops seldom fit into hotel room safes, to the extent there is one.

4. How do you handle finances? Do you travel with lots of easily convertible currencies like dollars or euros? Do you exchange these in banks or are there easy to find cambios? Do you use travelers cheques? Are ATMs easily available?

5. What is the rough budget for a day in Kenya; excluding hotel – but including food, drinks, taxis, general sight-seeing and, most importantly, girls? In DR, for example, I would spend an average of $150 a day excluding hotel. This seems high for Kenya; is it?

Many thanks in advance. I promise a very detailed report. [/QUOTE]I also live in Canada. I was in Nairobi for 3 days 2 yrs ago, and enjoyed it. You could fly to Mombasa. I think prices are reasonable. I rented a car and drove across the country. Pretty hairy experience. Use your extra time to safari in Amboseli (backside of Kilimanjaro) , or better, go to Masai Mara (SW of Nairobi). Awesome trips. Hotel costs vary widely in Nairobi. I stayed in Hilton downtown, very pricey. Lots of girls. Meet them on Tagged. Have a great trip.

[QUOTE=Ellington; 1159510]This is my first post on this board after years of lurking. I am pleased to say I'm booked for my first trip to Africa. I land in Nairobi about July 15 and stay for 3 weeks. I have researched this site exhaustively and wish to thank the many posters for their excellent information. I probably wouldn't attempt this trip without your kind help.

I live in Canada and have always wanted to go to Africa. I've been to DR numerous times and once to Thailand. I promise to post a trip report. I have some additional questions for you. Please feel free to pm me if you wish.

1. My plan is a week in Nairobi, then a week in Mombasa, then a week back in Nairobi before flying out for a total of 3 weeks. Is this a good plan? What is the train between Nairobi and Mombasa like? Is the train the best way to go? Should my Mombasa stay be longer. I guess I'm asking for an assessment of the relative merits of Nairobi vs Mombasa and where, assuming my primary focus is women, will I have the most fun?

2. I'm booked in Chester House in Nairobi in a one bedroom apartment; thanks to the great advice on this board for recommending this. Where should I stay in Mombasa?

3. Is it safe / secure to bring a lap top? I wouldn't want it stolen and lap tops seldom fit into hotel room safes, to the extent there is one.

4. How do you handle finances? Do you travel with lots of easily convertible currencies like dollars or euros? Do you exchange these in banks or are there easy to find cambios? Do you use travelers cheques? Are ATMs easily available?

5. What is the rough budget for a day in Kenya; excluding hotel – but including food, drinks, taxis, general sight-seeing and, most importantly, girls? In DR, for example, I would spend an average of $150 a day excluding hotel. This seems high for Kenya; is it?

Many thanks in advance. I promise a very detailed report. [/QUOTE]I'm Kenyan, born and' bred. Yours sounds like a good plan. Starting with Nairobi, mongering abit and' heading for the coast. After your week in Mombasa you'll be in a better position to see if you'll come back to Nairobi or extend your stay.

$150 a day, you are sure to have yourself some fun. Currency is easy to convert and' readily available. Banks and' bureaus. You'd be wise to avoid black market money changers. Banks do take Traveller cheques too. At a cost ofcourse.

Transport in Kenya is a tourist attraction in itself. Cheap and' memorable. And' grounds for mongering. Taxis all over.

Don't fret too much about your laptop. If it can't fit in your hotel room safe then have the reception take care of it for you.

Karibu Kenya

[QUOTE=Johnympole;1160033]$150 a day, you are sure to have yourself some fun. Currency is easy to convert and' readily available. Banks and' bureaus. You'd be wise to avoid black market money changers. Banks do take Traveller cheques too. At a cost ofcourse.[/QUOTE]$150 can cater for hotel, food, local transport and GF, excluding flight, safari other extras. Traveler cheques can not be changed, maybe a single bank in Nairobi and 30 % commission. Take some cash to exchange and don't depend last minute on ATMs. There is only one ATM working at the moment, at Nakumatt and Mtwapa ATMs are down, the one at Barclays in Bamburi is the only ATM functioning on north coast at the moment.

[QUOTE=Expat Kenya;1160081]$150 can cater for hotel, food, local transport and GF, excluding flight, safari other extras. Traveler cheques can not be changed, maybe a single bank in Nairobi and 30 % commission. Take some cash to exchange and don't depend last minute on ATMs. There is only one ATM working at the moment, at Nakumatt and Mtwapa ATMs are down, the one at Barclays in Bamburi is the only ATM functioning on north coast at the moment.[/QUOTE]So you are recommending that I bring cash only? At 21 days@$150 (not counting hotels and safaris) that's more than $3000 in cash. That doesn't sound very secure. Are you sure cash only is what I need to plan on?

[quote=ellington;1160180]so you are recommending that i bring cash only? at 21 days@$150 (not counting hotels and safaris) that's more than $3000 in cash. that doesn't sound very secure. are you sure cash only is what i need to plan on?[/quote]last time i spent about 45 days mostly in kenya with about 10 of those days up in uganda. for that trip, i took $9k usd in cash with me, mostly benjamins (100 dollar bills) , but also a good number of grants (50 dollar bills). i placed this in my concealable money pouch that i carried in a variety of places (i. e. in appropriate place on my person and in my backpack in a nicely hidden place). during that trip, i never used a safe at all and none of my cash went missing. i never let anyone know from where my money was coming from and i varied (according to my pre-planned routine. that way i couldn't forget where i placed it) where i stashed my money bag. anytime i went out, i only carried the amount of cash i needed for fun. nothing more. i prefer to not use atms due to the fraud one can encounter nowadays. and i definitely do not go through the hassle of getting travelers cheques. i think the last time i did that was around 2001. and i regretted it since i discovered i didn't even need them. but i always carry a credit card i can use in a pinch to obtain a cash advance, but so far in all of my international travels, i have never had to use it for that purpose. so my recommendation would be to get one of those money pouches you can either carry on your person and conceal around your neck, waist, or legs) or a money belt (that is if you are a belt wearing person). just remember that if you conceal your money on your person and you are flying to your destination and happen to have to go through one of those backrep001ter machines, you will have to quickly and discreetly stash it into your carryon (i never, ever place my money clip, wallet, or any monetary instruments in those bins wide open for all to see. and possibly steal) and then after clearing security, go into a bathroom stall to put it where you want it for your arrival to that country or else you will get patted down by the security folks. when i fly through europe, i just stash it in my carryon, and then just prior to landing at my final destination, i will hide it on my person.

[QUOTE=Ellington;1160180]So you are recommending that I bring cash only? At 21 days@$150 (not counting hotels and safaris) that's more than $3000 in cash. That doesn't sound very secure. Are you sure cash only is what I need to plan on?[/QUOTE]Not all cash, but for at least a few days in case ATMs aren't working and don't wait till the last day when you need to withdraw new cash. You can withdraw with credit card too when ATMs have network problems or at the counter of a bank. At the moment many ATMs are down on North Coast, its common here ATMs are empty or power failure. If you stay in the same hotel in Nairobbery, pay on arrival and take a safe if possible. Traveler cheques are very hard to change.

Cheers!

[quote=jiggydus;1160189]last time i spent about 45 days mostly in kenya with about 10 of those days up in uganda. for that trip, i took $9k usd in cash with me, mostly benjamins (100 dollar bills) , but also a good number of grants (50 dollar bills). i placed this in my concealable money pouch that i carried in a variety of places (i. e. in appropriate place on my person and in my backpack in a nicely hidden place). during that trip, i never used a safe at all and none of my cash went missing. i never let anyone know from where my money was coming from and i varied (according to my pre-planned routine. that way i couldn't forget where i placed it) where i stashed my money bag. anytime i went out, i only carried the amount of cash i needed for fun. nothing more. i prefer to not use atms due to the fraud one can encounter nowadays. and i definitely do not go through the hassle of getting travelers cheques. i think the last time i did that was around 2001. and i regretted it since i discovered i didn't even need them. but i always carry a credit card i can use in a pinch to obtain a cash advance, but so far in all of my international travels, i have never had to use it for that purpose. so my recommendation would be to get one of those money pouches you can either carry on your person and conceal around your neck, waist, or legs) or a money belt (that is if you are a belt wearing person). just remember that if you conceal your money on your person and you are flying to your destination and happen to have to go through one of those backrep001ter machines, you will have to quickly and discreetly stash it into your carryon (i never, ever place my money clip, wallet, or any monetary instruments in those bins wide open for all to see. and possibly steal) and then after clearing security, go into a bathroom stall to put it where you want it for your arrival to that country or else you will get patted down by the security folks. when i fly through europe, i just stash it in my carryon, and then just prior to landing at my final destination, i will hide it on my person.[/quote]it is very super idee to travel with kenya bus with 9000 dollar in pocket, no kredit cards end to safe in your hotel. this real top information.

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1159566]150 dollar / day is not bad. If you now that workers from Kenya having 5 dollar / day (end paying rent from this money) 3000dollar or 20 days in Kenya (without accomodation) Good enough to distroy marktprices for adder mongers. Where is this company where you work? I will ask for one job![/QUOTE]Willyboy it's nothing we can do about the prices of the hotels in Nairobi. Willyboy reccomend me a hotel thats decent and I will give it a try. I will be coming again in July!

Bulik Out

[QUOTE=Bulik; 1160491]Willyboy it's nothing we can do about the prices of the hotels in Nairobi. Willyboy reccomend me a hotel thats decent and I will give it a try. I will be coming again in July!

Bulik Out[/QUOTE]I spend always 20 euro / night. But this is not HILTON

[QUOTE=Ellington; 1159510]This is my first post on this board after years of lurking. I am pleased to say I'm booked for my first trip to Africa. I land in Nairobi about July 15 and stay for 3 weeks. I have researched this site exhaustively and wish to thank the many posters for their excellent information. I probably wouldn't attempt this trip without your kind help.

I live in Canada and have always wanted to go to Africa. I've been to DR numerous times and once to Thailand. I promise to post a trip report. I have some additional questions for you. Please feel free to pm me if you wish.

1. My plan is a week in Nairobi, then a week in Mombasa, then a week back in Nairobi before flying out for a total of 3 weeks. Is this a good plan? What is the train between Nairobi and Mombasa like? Is the train the best way to go? Should my Mombasa stay be longer. I guess I'm asking for an assessment of the relative merits of Nairobi vs Mombasa and where, assuming my primary focus is women, will I have the most fun?

2. I'm booked in Chester House in Nairobi in a one bedroom apartment; thanks to the great advice on this board for recommending this. Where should I stay in Mombasa?

3. Is it safe / secure to bring a lap top? I wouldn't want it stolen and lap tops seldom fit into hotel room safes, to the extent there is one.

4. How do you handle finances? Do you travel with lots of easily convertible currencies like dollars or euros? Do you exchange these in banks or are there easy to find cambios? Do you use travelers cheques? Are ATMs easily available?

5. What is the rough budget for a day in Kenya; excluding hotel – but including food, drinks, taxis, general sight-seeing and, most importantly, girls? In DR, for example, I would spend an average of $150 a day excluding hotel. This seems high for Kenya; is it?

Many thanks in advance. I promise a very detailed report.[/QUOTE]$150 / day, eh? You'll do way better here than in the DR, especially in MBA, I can assure you, AND for way less coin.

Chester Hse is good to give you a feel for what's going on in NBO. I think 1 wk in NBO is more than enough + maybe 1 wk on safari (Masai Mara + Amboseli) before hitting the coast. MBA / Mtwapa / Diani Beach is where it's at in these here parts. Stay at the Kahama Hotel, that's central to all the North Coast action you are looking for. PM me for an insider's tip for the South Coast.

I'd not take too much cash, ATM's are plentiful here (Barclays ATM's are no fee for Scotiacard and you'll like the xchange rate when you get your statement once you're back home. Pretty close to the Interbank rate and wayy better than what you'd get at any FX bureau!).

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1160349]It is very super idee to travel with Kenya bus with 9000 dollar in pocket, no kredit cards end to safe in your hotel. This real top information.[/QUOTE]No need to be that sarcastic, please!

I can only affirm that you are generally safe from pickpockets / muggers wherever you happen to be in Kenya as long as you observe common sense rules (be alert, stay sober, be non-offensive, stay away from all public commotions) , and of course it helps a great deal if you don't look like a sissy to begin with.

[QUOTE=Ellington;1159510]3. Is it safe / secure to bring a lap top? I wouldn't want it stolen and lap tops seldom fit into hotel room safes, to the extent there is one.[/QUOTE]Since most regular size laptops hardly fit into hotel safes (and carry too much of my bread-and-butter stuff anyhow to risk taking it along) I take a Dell Inspiron Mini with me on my travels these days.

[QUOTE=Jiggydus;1160189]... I took $9K USD in cash with me, mostly Benjamins (100 dollar bills) , but also a good number of Grants (50 dollar bills). ..[/QUOTE]Wow, but honestly spoken, I would not take such a risk!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Hey. I will be in nairobi from around the 12th to 14th of June and will have a nice apartment is anyone in or going to be in nairobi that might be interested in coming to a small sex party. I have one hot bi gal set up already so if you are a fit straight guy and are interested let me know. Am thinking 3-4 gals and me and another guy. Safe. Apartment will be in kilimani and should be a good time.

[QUOTE=Expat Kenya; 1160190]Not all cash, but for at least a few days in case ATMs aren't working and don't wait till the last day when you need to withdraw new cash. You can withdraw with credit card too when ATMs have network problems or at the counter of a bank. At the moment many ATMs are down on North Coast, its common here ATMs are empty or power failure. If you stay in the same hotel in Nairobbery, pay on arrival and take a safe if possible. Traveler cheques are very hard to change.

Cheers! [/QUOTE]When I was in Kenya, it seemed like power outages occurred on a weekly basis. Additionally, I am from the US and the banks here charge a motherload just for one to withdraw cash from non-bank ATMs (and since I only do business with a local credit union, I would get charged quite alot). I could transfer my banking business to an outfit that reimburses ATM fees charged by other institutions, but since I do so very rarely-it has been years, the inconvenience to my other operations is just not worth the hassle. So although I know I take certain risks by carrying that amount of cash with me on any of my trips, I am willing to do so and that is the reason I am overly alert and onguard the moment I step out of my house embarking on any of these trips. Suffice it to say, I never allow myself to become a drunk fool. Perhaps I would have more fun, but then again, perhaps I might have to cut my trip short because I was taken advantage of in such a drunken state. Not my idea of fun! I only shared what has worked for me. I am 100 percent truthful that I have experienced no problems folllowing my plan. But we are all grown men here, and you can choose to do what you think is best for you. As for those who think it stupid, I think it stupid and not a bright idea to "gift" $5 to the banks for the convenience of accessing my money. You Euros may not have that problem, but we do have that problem here in the US.

BTW I have been on work trips with colleagues who tried to just have enough cash on hand to last for a few days, relying on accessing cash from a Barclay's ATM. From their experiences, I saw that it wasn't always a sure thing, and when they were successful, it took much too long for my liking. So I will carry cash thank you very much.

Wow, I have by now traveled and mongered in many places but never really seen an issue with money. For two weeks mongering, I take 3-600 USD and 1-300 EUR in cash and two credit cards (or debit with cash advance function) from two different banks. You change the first 1-200 USD at the airport, get comfortable at the hotel and locate an ATM for your future cash withdrawals. When the need of cash arises, you take out money at the ATM, or, when all ATMs are down as it happens so often in Kenya and other cheap pussy countries, you change some of the USD / EUR at a bank or worst case at the hotel. I don't think I have traveled with traveler checks since my first mongering trip after High School back in the 90's.

9k USD? In one small little poach? In Kenya? Honestly man, how can you sleep? Much too risky of getting stolen and you being stranded.

[QUOTE=Bide59; 1161036]Wow, I have by now traveled and mongered in many places but never really seen an issue with money. For two weeks mongering, I take 3-600 USD and 1-300 EUR in cash and two credit cards (or debit with cash advance function) from two different banks. You change the first 1-200 USD at the airport, get comfortable at the hotel and locate an ATM for your future cash withdrawals. When the need of cash arises, you take out money at the ATM, or, when all ATMs are down as it happens so often in Kenya and other cheap pussy countries, you change some of the USD / EUR at a bank or worst case at the hotel. I don't think I have traveled with traveler checks since my first mongering trip after High School back in the 90's.

9k USD? In one small little poach? In Kenya? Honestly man, how can you sleep? Much too risky of getting stolen and you being stranded. [/QUOTE]I was 4 days with the same lady. Started all a little less careful with money. In the fifth night she stole 26000ksh. And my kriditcards. God was with me and the way-out protection, I would have her gestopt. Waar necessary funds have taken me to the airport to travel? It was my last night in Kenya. It happens more in last night. A personal advice for all hunters. SLEEP LAST NIGHT ONLY. Start your journey to well-equipped body. I thought it not happening to me!

[QUOTE=Bide59; 1161036]Wow, I have by now traveled and mongered in many places but never really seen an issue with money. For two weeks mongering, I take 3-600 USD and 1-300 EUR in cash and two credit cards (or debit with cash advance function) from two different banks. You change the first 1-200 USD at the airport, get comfortable at the hotel and locate an ATM for your future cash withdrawals. When the need of cash arises, you take out money at the ATM, or, when all ATMs are down as it happens so often in Kenya and other cheap pussy countries, you change some of the USD / EUR at a bank or worst case at the hotel. I don't think I have traveled with traveler checks since my first mongering trip after High School back in the 90's.

9k USD? In one small little poach? In Kenya? Honestly man, how can you sleep? Much too risky of getting stolen and you being stranded. [/QUOTE]Your money plan good, one big but though Nairobi airport has normal banks and ATM machines. No need to change any money at the airport. Everyone knows this is the worse place to change money because of the extremely poor exchange rates. So back to those tales of hide the sausage!

[QUOTE=Wdarryl;1160822]Hey. I will be in nairobi from around the 12th to 14th of June and will have a nice apartment is anyone in or going to be in nairobi that might be interested in coming to a small sex party. I have one hot bi gal set up already so if you are a fit straight guy and are interested let me know. Am thinking 3-4 gals and me and another guy. Safe. Apartment will be in kilimani and should be a good time.[/QUOTE]The man has to be fit as well, sounds like an audition. These things sound good but me and my girl who incidentally is very hot and very, very bi usually end up back at ours for an olympiad of bedroom gymnastics with a hotty (s)!

[QUOTE=Bide59;1161036]...when all ATMs are down as it happens so often in Kenya...[/QUOTE]I usually travel without any cash. The days when ATMs were down frequently are long gone. At least in Mombasa and Nairobi, but even in remote locations in Nyanza or anywhere along the Nairobi-Mombasa highway I've not had any problems with ATMs for a while.

Most of the UK Banks charge about 1. 50 GBP for a withdrawal plus somewhere between 2-3% commission factored into the exchange rate. I usually take out 35-40K in one go and that certainly goes a long way. The last withdrawal (a few days ago was charged at a rate of 137 per GBP which isn't bad.

Last time I entered Kenya even without the cash in hand to pay for the tourist visa. Luckily there is a Barclays ATM somewhere next to the Duty Free shops and after a bit of negotiation I got away with KSh 2, 500 for the Visa which was OK.

[QUOTE=Jhack111; 1161124]I usually travel without any cash. The days when ATMs were down frequently are long gone. At least in Mombasa and Nairobi, but even in remote locations in Nyanza or anywhere along the Nairobi-Mombasa highway I've not had any problems with ATMs for a while.

Most of the UK Banks charge about 1. 50 GBP for a withdrawal plus somewhere between 2-3% commission factored into the exchange rate. I usually take out 35-40K in one go and that certainly goes a long way. The last withdrawal (a few days ago was charged at a rate of 137 per GBP which isn't bad.

Last time I entered Kenya even without the cash in hand to pay for the tourist visa. Luckily there is a Barclays ATM somewhere next to the Duty Free shops and after a bit of negotiation I got away with KSh 2, 500 for the Visa which was OK.[/QUOTE]Very strangs. Never ATM machine bifore costumers control. Never possibel to pass visa control without money. Maby I was blind?

To thake money from ATM. With my master card 300 ksh (3 euro) extra for 30. 000ksh. No extra things No commision

If you coming to border control end you need visa. Plaese have with you 25 dollar or 20 euro. If not. You will not look lions or girls. Where persons look ATM machines bifor pasport / visa control. Only god now this!

Last time I entered Kenya even without the cash in hand to pay for the tourist visa. Luckily there is a Barclays ATM somewhere next to the Duty Free shops and after a bit of negotiation I got away with KSh 2, 500 for the Visa which was OK.

It is not posibel to pay visa in this local amount. This local amount is not possibel for inport or export (kenya rouls) Ofcours. Evry monger spend not all in Kenya. Hi must have one reden to return (spending the rest of money).

If this writer look duty free shop bifore pasport control. Maby Hi was not wek-up after his fly.

[QUOTE=Jhack111;1161124]I usually travel without any cash. The days when ATMs were down frequently are long gone. At least in Mombasa and Nairobi, but even in remote locations in Nyanza or anywhere along the Nairobi-Mombasa highway I've not had any problems with ATMs for a while.[/QUOTE]Try to withdraw now. For the next three months Nakumatt ATMs are closed. Mtwapa is out of cash and electricity was off for 36 hours. Mtwapa is packed with tourists despite low season. Good advise, keep it up.

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1161041]I was 4 days with the same lady. Started all a little less careful with money. In the fifth night she stole 26000ksh. And my kriditcards. God was with me and the way-out protection, I would have her gestopt. Waar necessary funds have taken me to the airport to travel? It was my last night in Kenya. It happens more in last night. A personal advice for all hunters. SLEEP LAST NIGHT ONLY. Start your journey to well-equipped body. I thought it not happening to me![/QUOTE]How did the girl know it was your last night? Don't tell your real name, country, city, what you plan and where to go. Malayas don't, so why would you?

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1161149]...To thake money from ATM. With my master card 300 ksh (3 euro) extra for 30. 000ksh. No extra things No commision...[/QUOTE]Your 3 euro is still more than the 1. 50 GBP common in UK and the fact that your master card statement doesn't show a commission doesn't mean there is one. It is factored into the exchange rate! Compare the rate I was giving you and see if you had a better one around that time. What you get charged is pretty much the same across competitive markets.

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1161151]If you coming to border control end you need visa. Plaese have with you 25 dollar or 20 euro. If not. You will not look lions or girls. Where persons look ATM machines bifor pasport / visa control. Only god now this![/QUOTE]It is located at the lower departure gates (1-8) , if I remember correctly not far from the diplomatic duty free. You just need to wander around a bit and get to know JKIA a little bit better. No need to ask for god either. The Kenyan immigration officers are lovely people and if you speak a little bit Swahili with them you will never have a problem. Even if you just have local currency. Just leave the European arrogance at home. That will go a long way.

Attention willyboy, I know you have alot of exp in Kenya, and ofcourse other senior members.

I am not interested in GFE at all, in fact I prefer to pick a girl up, have a BBBJ in my car or hotel, then drop her off and keep moving. Thats what I'm used to and thats how I like it, I don't like the girls hanging around all day or all night.

Do you know of any places like that in Nairobi or Mombasa where there are street walkers who you can pick up for a short date either in the car or nearby hotel? Is it easy to rent a car in kenya?

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Norweez;1161200]...I am not interested in GFE at all, in fact I prefer to pick a girl up, have a BBBJ in my car or hotel, then drop her off and keep moving. Thats what I'm used to and thats how I like it, I don't like the girls hanging around all day or all night...[/QUOTE]I'll leave this one to Williboy as per your request.

[QUOTE]...Is it easy to rent a car in kenya?...[/QUOTE]It is very easy. You have many choices. You can pay stupid money and rent from the usual suspects at airports or downtown locations (avis, carhire 3000, etc) or you can rent from local companies. There are plenty of them and the going rate is about 2, 500 Ksh per day for a small saloon (corolla etc) , which is about the equivalent of the price of a taxi ride from Moi Airport to Mtwapa. If you intend to go out and about a lot, renting will work out cheaper than taxis, but if you like drinking it might not be the best option.

[QUOTE=Expat Kenya;1161165]Try to withdraw now. For the next three months Nakumatt ATMs are closed. Mtwapa is out of cash and electricity was off for 36 hours. Mtwapa is packed with tourists despite low season. Good advise, keep it up.[/QUOTE]Electricity was actually off for less than 24 hours (at least where I live in Mtwapa) and over the last 12 months that was rather the exception than the rule. If you leave yourself in a position where you don't have enough cash to survive the next 2-3 days is just being silly.

You will always almost find a working ATM. Mtwapa being out of electricity doesn't mean that Bamburi is. Barclays in Bamburi has 2 ATMs and I have lately very rarely seen them down or out of cash. Even if it is there are plenty of ATMs in downtown Mombasa. I really don't see the problem.

I have local accounts in Kenya in parallel to my foreign accounts and it is quick, easy and cheap to wire money into these accounts and if all goes wrong it is just as easy to transfer money from outside Kenya into MPESA. There are plenty of options and yes, I will keep this advice up: There is absolutely no need to carry foreign currency cash around.

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1161164]...It is not posibel to pay visa in this local amount. This local amount is not possibel for inport or export (kenya rouls) Ofcours.....[/QUOTE]Oh Williboy. You never fail to amuse me. Non-residents are free to import / export local and foreign currency without restrictions. And yes, it is possible. You just haven't tried it. But I have, so I am right and you are wrong.

[QUOTE]...If this writer look duty free shop bifore pasport control. Maby Hi was not wek-up after his fly...[/QUOTE]Maybe you should widen your horizon a little bit. Not all airports are like Mombasa. Nairobi is a different construction (circular) which allows you to pass the same duty free shops no matter whether you arrive or depart. There is an ATM at Gate 10 and that is the one I used to withdraw from as I had no other cent of cash in my pocket.

[QUOTE=Jhack111; 1161254]Oh Williboy. You never fail to amuse me. Non-residents are free to import / export local and foreign currency without restrictions. And yes, it is possible. You just haven't tried it. But I have, so I am right and you are wrong.

Maybe you should widen your horizon a little bit. Not all airports are like Mombasa. Nairobi is a different construction (circular) which allows you to pass the same duty free shops no matter whether you arrive or depart. There is an ATM at Gate 10 and that is the one I used to withdraw from as I had no other cent of cash in my pocket. [/QUOTE]Why you need BORDINGCARD in airport to buy duty free items? If way out for you end you pass duty free. Not possibel to buy. End shop are CHOSED. Duty free is only for passagiers. Thaking flys.

It cost my one h thime to find it

Currency.

The currency is the Kenyan Shilling (KSh) , divided into 100 cents. Imports of foreign currency is unlimited, but on arrival in Kenya indicate money you entered. The import and export of Kenyan shillings is prohibited under any circumstances. Traveler's checks (in USA dollars or pounds) can be exchanged at the bank. Often credit cards only accepted in major hotels.

Some contributions in the discussion do not have much to do with reality.

Meanwhile, there are of course many ways to pay without cash, or receive money at ATM's all over the world. But it's natural, that I will not leave the house without any cash in my pocket. I would at least not go without a small amount of cash for emergencies on holiday. That's common sense.

It is also known that the fee for the Visa in Kenya is Euro or dollars is in cash.

If there is now an opportunity to get cash from an ATM before you pay the Visa in Mombasa or Nairobi.

What is the discussion.

If I know that I need the cash money for the Visa I bring it along with me. I would not ruin even the beginning of my vacation because I have to go looking around for an ATM. I too would not be at the mercy of the visa officer, if I can pay the visa in ksh or not.

Once again. I don't know anybody who leaves home without any cash the pocket.

For me personally. Since I had some time ago, massive problems with my credit cards, I've been bringing always a lot of cash with me. This is obviously a risk. Everyone has to decide this for themselves.

So, have the visa fee in cash. And at least a little cash for emergencies. How much. This must everybody know byself.

Greetings.

Wenzman

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1161346]Why you need BORDINGCARD in airport to buy duty free items? If way out for you end you pass duty free. Not possibel to buy. End shop are CHOSED. Duty free is only for passagiers. Thaking flys.[/QUOTE]C'mon man this is Kenya. Theoretically you need one. Practically you don't.

@willyboy [email]and@Jhack111.[/email]

What I forgot to say, my dick is the longest. You know what I mean. Just for fun.

Be kind to each other.

Greetings.

Wenzman

[QUOTE=Wenzman;1161373]...Some contributions in the discussion do not have much to do with reality...[/QUOTE]Everyone's reality is different. This is a forum where people exchange their opinions and experiences. These might not always be your cup of tea. No need to be so judgemental.

[QUOTE=Wenzman;1161373]...I would at least not go without a small amount of cash for emergencies on holiday. That's common sense...[/QUOTE]Here we go again. Common sense easily classifies as the mosed overused and abused term.

[QUOTE=Wenzman;1161373]For me personally. Since I had some time ago, massive problems with my credit cards, I've been bringing always a lot of cash with me. This is obviously a risk. Everyone has to decide this for themselves.[/QUOTE]Exactly. I'm not criticising the brother on this forum who says he carries $9K in cash. Its his personal decision, he has his reasons to do it and it works for him. Having massive amounts of cash and cards seems to work for you. And heaving 0 (foreign currency) cash and lots of cards works for me. Everyone's choices in life are different and I was simply stating the fact that it is not a necessity to travel with cash if you know your way around

[QUOTE=Jhack111; 1161385]Everyone's reality is different. This is a forum where people exchange their opinions and experiences. These might not always be your cup of tea. No need to be so judgemental.

Here we go again. Common sense easily classifies as the mosed overused and abused term.

Exactly. I'm not criticising the brother on this forum who says he carries $9K in cash. Its his personal decision, he has his reasons to do it and it works for him. Having massive amounts of cash and cards seems to work for you. And heaving 0 (foreign currency) cash and lots of cards works for me. Everyone's choices in life are different and I was simply stating the fact that it is not a necessity to travel with cash if you know your way around[/QUOTE]Relax my friend, I have some medicine.

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Back to the girls.

Greetings.

Wenzman

i found a website that imports and exports of kenya schilling is prohibited. in another site i found that payments kenya schillings on the plane as possible. so i think nothing further discussions to be suffering. limiting speeds back to basics: sex

[QUOTE=Wenzman; 1161391]Relax my friend, I have some medicine.

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Back to the girls.

Greetings.

Wenzman[/QUOTE]Nice pic my friend. Really appreciate the donation.

[QUOTE=Jhack111; 1161245]. I am not interested in GFE at all, in fact I prefer to pick a girl up, have a BBBJ in my car or hotel, then drop her off and keep moving. Thats what I'm used to and thats how I like it, I don't like the girls hanging around all day or all night.

I'll leave this one to Williboy as per your request.[/QUOTE]Jhack, thanks a mill for the info on the rent a cars, I hope the local companies are easy to find. Please provide your 2 cents on the street walker scene I asked about.

[QUOTE=Norweez;1161532]Jhack, thanks a mill for the info on the rent a cars, I hope the local companies are easy to find. Please provide your 2 cents on the street walker scene I asked about.[/QUOTE]Norweez, I'll PM you some more info regarding car rental.

My 2 cents on your other question:

I take it when you are saying you are not interested in GFE you are in line with the main character in the movie The Italian who says to the girl: I'm coming here to receive pleasure, not to give pleasure! In other words you don't need her to fake for you or give you the illusion that she really likes it?

To be perfectly honest, its part of the package here to make you feel special.

However, the mindset of many of the girls here is very well described in this blog: [url]http://www.nairobinights.co.cc/.[/url] This is written by a self confessed prostitute working in Nairobi. When you know what you are up against you can adapt in terms of your response / behaviour.

Mombasa / Mtwapa. Girls can be found anywhere, on the street in clubs, shopping centres, there is never a shortage, you will have plenty to choose from. What you do with them is completely up to you. Many of the girls will want to hang around but you just need to insist for them to go. Car jobs are not very common in Kenya. I would be careful with that. If you don't want to take them to your hotel, there are rooms available for short rent in some places where no questions are being asked, just a small fee to the security guard and you can do whatever you like.

Nairobi. There are plenty of street walkers around Koinange Street, this is hunting ground for locals and non-locals, so the quick job is quite a common thing. You will find what you are looking for where the locals are banging cause they are looking for the same set up as you, I. E. For what you have in mind stay away from the girls that hang around the tourist hotel bars. Too expensive, lousy service. Otherwise just pick and choose from the many clubs and watering holes.

Jhack great pic where did you find her and how much did you pay?

[QUOTE=Jhack111;1161429]Nice pic my friend. Really appreciate the donation.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Interracial;1162068]Jhack great pic where did you find her and how much did you pay?[/QUOTE]Credit for this one is to Wenzman, I simply forgot to remove the link to the pic when I hit the reply with quote button. Wenzman, can you help our friend out here?

[QUOTE=Jhack111;1162085]Credit for this one is to Wenzman, I simply forgot to remove the link to the pic when I hit the reply with quote button. Wenzman, can you help our friend out here?[/QUOTE]Tempo Disco, Friday night.

LT 2000 ksh. No children

Got it seems that 2000 is the going rate

[QUOTE=Interracial;1163086]Got it seems that 2000 is the going rate[/QUOTE]There are so many fish in the pond, why pay more than necessary

[QUOTE=Wenzman;1163106]There are so many fish in the pond, why pay more than necessary[/QUOTE]If Hi go to supermarket. End Hi like the kassa girl. Hi always pay 20 procent TIP, Hi give this thinks name TAXIMONEY.

Many to thankss to Johnympole, Wenzman, Willyboy, Expat Kenya, Jhack111, Zircon, Bide59, Jiggydus, Hesekials, and Lusty Hombre and others for their great information in answer to my call for help.

My trip is now set for 3 wks beginning July 16; staying initially at Chester House then moving on to Kahama's in Mombasa. Thanks again. What a great board!

I promise a full report.

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1163108]If Hi go to supermarket. End Hi like the kassa girl. Hi always pay 20 procent TIP, Hi give this thinks name TAXIMONEY.[/QUOTE]Hey willyboy, as you know I pay the girls in the morning that they go, not that they stay and it's always MATATUMONEY.

We are always on a mission

[QUOTE=Ellington; 1163168]Many to thankss to Johnympole, Wenzman, Willyboy, Expat Kenya, Jhack111, Zircon, Bide59, Jiggydus, Hesekials, and Lusty Hombre and others for their great information in answer to my call for help.

My trip is now set for 3 wks beginning July 16; staying initially at Chester House then moving on to Kahama's in Mombasa. Thanks again. What a great board!

I promise a full report.[/QUOTE]Have lotsa fun. Wouldn't mind a few naughty pix. Same handle [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]

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[QUOTE=Ellington; 1163168]Many to thankss to Johnympole, Wenzman, Willyboy, Expat Kenya, Jhack111, Zircon, Bide59, Jiggydus, Hesekials, and Lusty Hombre and others for their great information in answer to my call for help.

My trip is now set for 3 wks beginning July 16; staying initially at Chester House then moving on to Kahama's in Mombasa. Thanks again. What a great board!

I promise a full report. [/QUOTE]Enjoy. There are many really pretty women in Kenya and they love to fuck.

[QUOTE=Ellington;1163168]...My trip is now set for 3 wks beginning July 16; staying initially at Chester House then moving on to Kahama's in Mombasa...[/QUOTE]Nice choice mate. Bang on in the middle of the action. By the way, in between fucking sessions if you get tired of hotel food and need to eat don't miss to go to Ranalo Foods on Kimathi Street. Fantastic local place. Cheap, clean, good.

Good luck and happy mongering! An extended report with pictures is expected.

[QUOTE=Ellington; 1163168]Many to thankss to Johnympole, Wenzman, Willyboy, Expat Kenya, Jhack111, Zircon, Bide59, Jiggydus, Hesekials, and Lusty Hombre and others for their great information in answer to my call for help.

My trip is now set for 3 wks beginning July 16; staying initially at Chester House then moving on to Kahama's in Mombasa. Thanks again. What a great board!

I promise a full report. [/QUOTE]

Anyone know where to find some on-site brothels in Nairobi? Street location and landmarks nearby would be great. I'd like to try some on-site action and choose from a selection of girls if its possible.

Any details / information would be great.

[QUOTE=Interracial; 1164657]Anyone know where to find some on-site brothels in Nairobi? Street location and landmarks nearby would be great. I'd like to try some on-site action and choose from a selection of girls if its possible.

Any details / information would be great.[/QUOTE]Try kenyanlistings. Com and keep in mind that in this business " what may be here today, may be gone tomorrow " applies.

I found some gems as well as some duds when I worked the site during my last NBO trip (8 wks ago) and guess what : some of the gems are no longer advertising as of now (maybe they have lots of activity now without continuing to pay for the ad?) but most of the duds I walked out on are still there.

Colleagues, I'll be in Nairobi soon for 1 week of business, and in this week my idea was to submitt a registration to a social network and place my location in Nairoby.

I received a lot of contact directly from the kenyan woman, from 22 to 35 YO.

I was surprise of that but probably they like withe man.

Someone of you have some experience in this situation?

Do you think that I can accept some invitation from this girls? . Or can be dangerous?

I will be in Ole-Sereni Hotel, is that guest friendly? Or I can find some girl directly at the hotel?

Thanks to all

[QUOTE=SenzaZucchero;1164930]...Someone of you have some experience in this situation?...Do you think that I can accept some invitation from this girls? . Or can be dangerous?...[/QUOTE]The question I'd have is why do you want to go down this route? There are so many girls and 1 week is more than enough time to just get there and find exactly what you want. However, to answer your question: I have several freebie contacts like that on the big social network. I don't take contacts over the Internet lightly. I always take time to assess someone's agenda and never give out information that will allow someone to track me down. So from my experience it's a possibility but as always be vigilant.

[QUOTE=SenzaZucchero;1164930]...I will be in Ole-Sereni Hotel, is that guest friendly? Or I can find some girl directly at the hotel?...[/QUOTE]I haven't been to Ole Sereni, but as with most hotels registration of your guest is pretty much a standard requirement. As for girls in the bars of up market hotels my advice would be to forget about those unless you are happy to overpay. Pick your chicks outside. You will have a much wider choice.

Cheers J

[QUOTE=Jhack111; 1165287]. Pick your chicks outside. You will have a much wider choice.

Cheers J[/QUOTE]Thanks alot Jhack, I will follow your suggestion. Probably is better to be like "anonymous", but what about outside place? I'm alone, and my firs time in Kenia, so I want to avoid any critical situation for a funny night.

Where do you think is possible to be in the night, I. E. For a dinner and more? I mean not a real mongering place, but normal place where the "final result" is quite shure.

Thansk Again

[QUOTE=Jhack111;1161708]If you don't want to take them to your hotel, there are rooms available for short rent in some places where no questions are being asked, just a small fee to the security guard and you can do whatever you like.[/QUOTE]Jhack, thanks for the info and and the blog site. Do you have any info as to where I can find the short rent rooms and how much they cost? Would there be girls hanging around such sites for an all in one stop?

[QUOTE=Norweez;1165733]Jhack, thanks for the info and and the blog site. Do you have any info as to where I can find the short rent rooms and how much they cost? Would there be girls hanging around such sites for an all in one stop?[/QUOTE]In Nairobi I'm afraid I don't know. But in Mombasa in the past I have been fucking quite a few chicks in the rooms next to Tembo. Very quiet daytime, you can make her scream the house down if you want and don't even need to close the door. Only the security guard roaming around outside LOL. Think I paid 300/= to the guard. Condoms are plenty on the bedside table but not the super thin ones.

[QUOTE=SenzaZucchero;1165300]...I'm alone, and my firs time in Kenia, so I want to avoid any critical situation for a funny night...[/QUOTE]No worries, you'll be safe if you don't do anything stupid. In Nairobi use cabs during the night if you are not experienced. If you don't want to be on your own post in the travel announcements thread and you might just find someone travelling at the same time willing to team up.

[QUOTE=SenzaZucchero;1165300]Where do you think is possible to be in the night, I. E. For a dinner and more? I mean not a real mongering place, but normal place where the "final result" is quite shure[/QUOTE]There is no one who isn't going to score in Kenya. No worries. The final result is sure. Just go to the usual clubs and watering holes, there are so many mentioned in this forum. Just take your time and READ!

Don't mix dinner with pussy!

[QUOTE=Norweez;1165733]Jhack, thanks for the info and and the blog site. Do you have any info as to where I can find the short rent rooms and how much they cost? Would there be girls hanging around such sites for an all in one stop?[/QUOTE]In Nairobi try Terminal or Parkside. You may also try Sagret. These all go for about 2000. No problem with guests though they may charge 500 to 600 extra. Includes breakfast if she stays that long.

Also, down from Sagret is Kenya Comfort Suites which is very nice. Can do some of your own cooking and prices are 3000 single with 1000 extra for guest. No hassles, but will need to register. These two are just outside of CBD, taxi about 300. You can also just ask one of the guards or attendants at places you visit such as Madhouse. They would no doubt direct you to some good choices.

[QUOTE=Norweez;1165733]Jhack, thanks for the info and and the blog site. Do you have any info as to where I can find the short rent rooms and how much they cost? Would there be girls hanging around such sites for an all in one stop?[/QUOTE]You may also try Annie Oakley's. Its just down the street from Sagret and Kenya Comfort Suites. Used to be full of action and there is a small hotel attached. Room rates must be very accomodating.

Happy time friend!

Wow my first time in Kenya has been breathtaking. The walking people in the hundreds then thousands as you drive by is my first big impresion. As for AccomadationI tried Africana and found it was way below what I could take. You classic boys ISG have my respect. But I had screaming Jesus from below in a couryard that never ended. Next day moved on to Green Court (they say. Greencot) in Latema Road (its a narrow entrance with stairs at the end and two flights before reception. I really recommend. Clean and secure, rightoutside is the main Matatu centre but very quiet without screaming jesus. At Ksh 3000 I was happy for a dble Rm. Met a beautiful lady at Simmers, yeah I know. But she was a real genuine lady so we hooked up and. Spent a couple of weeks travelling with her up to her Meru country and stayed in Isiolo, Samburu parks amazing never saw another 4wd and had the park to ourselves. Yeah I know should have played the feild but hey not a working girl

[QUOTE=Matbro;1166784]...Wow my first time in Kenya has been breathtaking....[/QUOTE]Glad you enjoyed yourself. I said this many times before. Anyone can get what they are looking for in Kenya.

[QUOTE=Matbro;1166784]...Yeah I know should have played the feild but hey not a working girl...[/QUOTE]Working girl, semi pro, all these classifications don't mean really much in reality. Promiscuity is a national sport and genuine is a very broad term. But I'm glad you found what you were looking for. I take it you will be coming back to Kenya then?

[QUOTE=Jhack111;1166845]Working girl, semi pro, all these classifications don't mean really much in reality.[/QUOTE]Sure its not a big difference, working girl, semi pro, if you stay with the same girl 8 month per year yourself.

[QUOTE=Expat Kenya;1167118]Sure its not a big difference, working girl, semi pro, if you stay with the same girl 8 month per year yourself.[/QUOTE]I don't want to spawn off another lengthy discussion. So let me clarify what I meant. First of all these are all human beings and deserve to be treated with equal respect. I don't support social hierarchies that's why I said there is not much meaning to such classifications. However long you stay with someone is just a matter of choice and again has nothing to do with social stereotypes.

Promiscuity is a national sport and genuine is a very broad term. [/QUOTE]Promiscuity might be ``a`national sport which could apply to ANY country but in most African countries, extortion is THE national sport rather than football. At all levels of government, a bribe is extorted in exchange for government approval of something you need, either entry of a good into the country or for services you require.

[QUOTE=Interracial; 1164657]Anyone know where to find some on-site brothels in Nairobi? Street location and landmarks nearby would be great. I'd like to try some on-site action and choose from a selection of girls if its possible.

Any details / information would be great.[/QUOTE]I can think of two such places in Nairobi CBD but if yu are white skin yu'd probably shock the gals. And' the staff

Sabina Joy aka Karamaindo and Modern Green. I'm not so good with street names but yu'll find the directions on google.

[QUOTE=Jhack111;1167253]I don't want to spawn off another lengthy discussion. So let me clarify what I meant. First of all these are all human beings and deserve to be treated with equal respect. I don't support social hierarchies that's why I said there is not much meaning to such classifications. However long you stay with someone is just a matter of choice and again has nothing to do with social stereotypes.[/QUOTE]The fact that all are human, does not mean we're all the same, equal and "deserve" to be treated with respect. Treated with respect by who and why? Mzungus are discriminated in Kenya. Mostly because of Mzungu's naivety, money and / or mixing emotions like loneliness with love etc. Go to a bar stuffed with people and no seats. Without asking, you'll have the best seat at the best spot in a wink of an eye. The most conning type of Kenyans who steal, lie, manipulate, drug mzungus to rob are prof malayas. Specially the lovers of high politicians. Not all, no by far not all malayas. Mentioning that is not to discriminate or stereotyping, its to inform. Westerns are even embarrassed to tell and worn others in public, even its a taboo to write anything negative that may look generalizing or discriminating. To write statements like.

We're all the same, we all have a right to bla bla is naive and ignorant.

[QUOTE=Interracial;1167474]but in most African countries, extortion is THE national sport rather than football. At all levels of government, a bribe is extorted in exchange for government approval of something you need, either entry of a good into the country or for services you require.[/QUOTE]Sure extortion and bribes are a national sport in Africa. In western countries we call these TAX when exchanging money for government approval of something you need. Its all the same, you have to pay an authority, which makes laws and maintain it in order to get done what you need "legally".

Norweez. Just look for a sign that says Day and Night club. Every woman you see at any hour of day / night is for hire. The accommodations may be rudimentary: a cubicle with walls that don't go all the way to the ceiling, but has a bed and a wash bowl. Bring your own rubber.

Wait a second. Taxation through a democracy is legitimate, extortion, even in a democracy is illegal. There is a BIG difference. In Africa, most countries are still not democratic so citizens have no choice at all. Look at the USA they continue to elect only governments that won't increase taxes but extortion is still illegal. Africans don't have that choice. But extortion certainly substitutes for taxation when there is no proper taxation and then control of how that money is spent. Maybe that's your point. But I'd take democracy and taxation over extortion any time.

Sure extortion and bribes are a national sport in Africa. In western countries we call these TAX when exchanging money for government approval of something you need. Its all the same, you have to pay an authority, which makes laws and maintain it in order to get done what you need "legally". [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Interracial;1168393]Wait a second. Taxation through a democracy is legitimate, extortion, even in a democracy is illegal. There is a BIG difference. In Africa, most countries are still not democratic so citizens have no choice at all. Look at the USA they continue to elect only governments that won't increase taxes but extortion is still illegal. Africans don't have that choice. But extortion certainly substitutes for taxation when there is no proper taxation and then control of how that money is spent. Maybe that's your point. But I'd take democracy and taxation over extortion any time.[/QUOTE]First, I think we're on the wrong forum here, there is a political forum here on ISG. Democracy is the suppression of a minority by a majority. Example: individuals do not decide for themselves if they wand their tax-money to be spend on bombing of Libyan citizens or not, the democratic chosen majority chooses for you that you'll be an accessory by paying tax-money. Western countries are famous in Africa for their extreme violent foreign policies. Like explained in this clip:

[url]Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd-SLRyuRq0[/url]

Here is what I think of tax, bribes, extortion and governments in general:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TJIMqwJI2uI[/url]

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Vittu;1168101]Norweez. Just look for a sign that says Day and Night club. Every woman you see at any hour of day / night is for hire. The accommodations may be rudimentary: a cubicle with walls that don't go all the way to the ceiling, but has a bed and a wash bowl. Bring your own rubber.[/QUOTE]Thanks vittu, so I go to river road and search for a place with a sign that says day and night club, is this a bar or a club or a hostel?

Any info on the price for the room, sorry for the questions don't want to get ripped off?

By the way, does anyone know if Hotel Ambassadeur is girl friendly?

Any info will be greatly appreciated.

I will be in Nairobi this Friday June 24th. If you are willing to send any numbers of bi-girls interested in a 3 hour 3some please send them to me via private message. That would be great.

[QUOTE=Expat Kenya;1167903]...To write statements like we're all the same, we all have a right to bla bla is naive and ignorant...[/QUOTE]That's fine by me. In this case I choose to be naive and ignorant

Yes, democracy isn't perfect but at least in most democratic countries, not all, where there is proportional representation or at least negotiation between competing interests, the majority rules legitimately and minorities are protected from discrimination which is far superior to a dick-tatorship. And it isn't perfect since these democracies can still be hypocritical on foreign policy as you point out. It's a real joke when you hear Africans preach democracy but don't even have it or practise it themselves (e. G. Africans working at the UN or with international charities in their own country).

[QUOTE=Expat Kenya; 1168436]First, I think we're on the wrong forum here, there is a political forum here on ISG. Democracy is the suppression of a minority by a majority. Example: individuals do not decide for themselves if they wand their tax-money to be spend on bombing of Libyan citizens or not, the democratic chosen majority chooses for you that you'll be an accessory by paying tax-money. Western countries are famous in Africa for their extreme violent foreign policies. Like explained in this clip:

I`ve just returned from my first trip to Nairobi and here are my thoughts:

I visited Florida Madhouse, Florida 2000, Black Diamond and Gypsies. It would appear that the much older and more hard core hookers are at Florida Madhouse while Gypsies in Westlands is where the better looking and younger hookers hang out. So the selection is better at Gypsies but the price is most likely higher than 2, 000 Ksh since most of the mzungus seem to be well established and living in Nairobi.

I highly recommend AfroIntroductions (max 1 month) since Metrodate (free site) has mostly pros. But again if you feel out their money situation (e. G. Is someone paying for their schooling or are they working) desperation increases as the money declines. All 3 I met on Afro in the 5 days I was there were great (1 full sex but very desperate afterwards, gave her 2. 000 but she wanted `shopping`, the other 1 was struggling job wise but had USA mom paying her housing so lots of foreplay but nothing more and the last one was fully supported in school from her family so after 2 hours I got a free BBJ.

Final one on Facebook was just DATY but has promised reciprocal when I come back. She has the most money but the least looking.

Hello ISG,

Are there any photographer in Nairobi, that is paying young girls from Mombasa / lamu for photographs? I heard he is paying them money to go to school / study. I heard he is not fucking for it, can anyone tell me who that is? He is a older white australian.

[QUOTE=JanosB; 1171424]Hello, ISG,

Are there any photographer in Nairobi, that is paying young girls from Mombasa / lamu for photographs? I heard he is paying them money to go to school / study. I heard he is not fucking for it, can anyone tell me who that is? He is a older white australian.[/QUOTE]I am seriously questioning whether such a message should be here.

There's a long story in the Daily Nation about "The double lives of university students"

You can read it here:

[url]http://www.nation.co.ke/News/The+double+lives+of+university+students+/-/1056/1193332/-/7rwlk4/-/index.html[/url]



It was a few minutes to 8 pm when Beth's cell phone alerted her to a text message. 'Come with eight girls. Mix them in different styles. Take a cab and let's meet in South B, ' it read.

Beth, who had been waiting with her friends for the message, was excited. They had to dress scantily, she told the young women who would soon make a short journey to the underworld where illicit sex, alcohol and rich men mix in one of Nairobi's latest fads. Etc. Etc.

Is anyone in town Nairobi this week & interested to join in with this babe.

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She seems quite wild & willing.

PM only!

G

[QUOTE=Zimzam; 1172547]There's a long story in the Daily Nation about "The double lives of university students"

You can read it here:

[url]http://www.nation.co.ke/News/The+double+lives+of+university+students+/-/1056/1193332/-/7rwlk4/-/index.html[/url]

It was a few minutes to 8 pm when Beth's cell phone alerted her to a text message. 'Come with eight girls. Mix them in different styles. Take a cab and let's meet in South B, ' it read.

Beth, who had been waiting with her friends for the message, was excited. They had to dress scantily, she told the young women who would soon make a short journey to the underworld where illicit sex, alcohol and rich men mix in one of Nairobi's latest fads. Etc. Etc.[/QUOTE]Zimzam : this has been going on for decades now, both in NBO and MBA (and presumably all over the world as well bcs what's the easiest way for a goodlooking girl to make some serious dough without anybody spilling the beans?) ; it's just that nobody has sensationialized it as yet until this poor post-grad girl got killed a few weeks back in Westlands.

R. I. P. , poor thing! My heart goes out to her parents though who believed she was a real Yehowa's Witness! She's gone but how do they cope with all the shame?

I need some help in finding suitable accommodation in Nairobi. I would prefer apartment 1 bedroom is fine. Any ideas. Planning to be there in middle of August for about 7 days. Any suggestions would be appreciated. You can PM me I think or just post to the thread is ok

[QUOTE=Andy Pierce;1174478]I need some help in finding suitable accommodation in Nairobi. I would prefer apartment 1 bedroom is fine. Any ideas. Planning to be there in middle of August for about 7 days. Any suggestions would be appreciated. You can PM me I think or just post to the thread is ok[/QUOTE]Try Natural Oak Apartments. I spent there 1 week last year. Nice apartments, absolutely GF.

But a liitle bit far from the center. 10-15 minutes by taxi. You can book directly with them by e-mail.

[url]www.naturaloak.co.ke[/url]

[QUOTE=Dzikusek; 1174727]Try Natural Oak Apartments. I spent there 1 week last year. Nice apartments, absolutely GF.

But a liitle bit far from the center. 10-15 minutes by taxi. You can book directly with them by e-mail.

[url]www.naturaloak.co.ke[/url][/QUOTE]Dzikusek,

Natural Oaks Apartments sound a good option of GF budget hotel for mongering in Nairobi.

I am thinking to book it now.

My last consern is how easy to get a taxi around bar areas (such as New Florida) at night.

You know in some cities it is very difficult to find a taxi at night.

Therefore, staying in a hotel nearby the theme becomes a good option.

Can you elaborate a little bit on the taxi issues? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Professor J; 1175326]Dzikusek,

Natural Oaks Apartments sound a good option of GF budget hotel for mongering in Nairobi.

I am thinking to book it now.

My last consern is how easy to get a taxi around bar areas (such as New Florida) at night.

You know in some cities it is very difficult to find a taxi at night.

Therefore, staying in a hotel nearby the theme becomes a good option.

Can you elaborate a little bit on the taxi issues? Thanks.[/QUOTE]The Taxis are always hanging around outside waiting. You will have no problem. I took the numbers of a couple of reliable non rip-off drivers and just buzzed them which worked ok.

[QUOTE=Professor J; 1175326]Dzikusek,

Natural Oaks Apartments sound a good option of GF budget hotel for mongering in Nairobi.

I am thinking to book it now.

My last consern is how easy to get a taxi around bar areas (such as New Florida) at night.

You know in some cities it is very difficult to find a taxi at night.

Therefore, staying in a hotel nearby the theme becomes a good option.

Can you elaborate a little bit on the taxi issues? Thanks.[/QUOTE]No problem at all with taxis.

There were always taxis waiting at the entrance to Madhouse.

But don't forget to negociate the price!

Going from N. O. A. To the city, just ask the security guy at the gate to call a taxi for you. Usually very nice guys BTW.

Have a chat with them, give them a gift or a small tip: during my stay they were a good source of any information (taxi fares, clubs, food, shopping etc).

They even can arrange for girl (girls) if you don't want to go to the city.

One day I was not in mood to go to the city so I asked the guy at the gate to arrange for girls. No problem at all!

After half an hour 2 girls (students) arrived (OK, one was totally stoned). I took them both, nice threesome.

The advantage of this place is: it's quiet at night and safe.

Nairobi city centre is loud.

However, if you prefer to be in the "middle of action", don't go to the N. O. A.

I was staying at Hilton (expensive as hell and not good at all) and Fairview (very nice but even more expensive than Hilton).

I certainly would book it again. But next time I would insist on having my apartment not at the highest floor: there is no lift which means: endless stairs! And the water prsssure was not that good. But everything else was perfect for me. : clean, nice furnished, full equipped kitchen, swimming pool, privacy, free internet, very nice staff.

[QUOTE=Dzikusek; 1175386]No problem at all with taxis.

There were always taxis waiting at the entrance to Madhouse.

But don't forget to negociate the price!

Going from N. O. A. To the city, just ask the security guy at the gate to call a taxi for you. Usually very nice guys BTW.

Have a chat with them, give them a gift or a small tip: during my stay they were a good source of any information (taxi fares, clubs, food, shopping etc).

They even can arrange for girl (girls) if you don't want to go to the city.

One day I was not in mood to go to the city so I asked the guy at the gate to arrange for girls. No problem at all!

After half an hour 2 girls (students) arrived (OK, one was totally stoned). I took them both, nice threesome.

The advantage of this place is: it's quiet at night and safe.

Nairobi city centre is loud.

However, if you prefer to be in the "middle of action", don't go to the N. O. A.

I was staying at Hilton (expensive as hell and not good at all) and Fairview (very nice but even more expensive than Hilton).

I certainly would book it again. But next time I would insist on having my apartment not at the highest floor: there is no lift which means: endless stairs! And the water prsssure was not that good. But everything else was perfect for me. : clean, nice furnished, full equipped kitchen, swimming pool, privacy, free internet, very nice staff.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the detailed explanation.

I think I will book NOA.

By the way, just as curiosity, are Hilton and Fairview GF hotels in your experience?

[QUOTE=Professor J; 1175642]Thanks for the detailed explanation.

I think I will book NOA.

By the way, just as curiosity, are Hilton and Fairview GF hotels in your experience?[/QUOTE]I stayed at Hilton in 2006 last time so difficult to say something about their policy nowadays.

Hilton was GF in 2005. However, no chance to avoid "walk of shame" and I had to register one lady.

In my opinion, Hilton is not worth the money. Small rooms, maybe 3 stars, not more.

At Fairview I stayed twice and each time I booked for First Class Single Room. Rate is high (13, 600 KSH) but I was lucky to have the room paid by my company.

The First Class rooms are located in a separate building, located across the street. There is also a separate entrance gate to this building directly from the street.

You don't have to enter the main hotel building, no walk of shame, absolutely nothing! Once you get the key, you can have as many visitors as you want.

OK, there are cameras everywhere but nobody cares.

The rooms are very comfortable, perfect beds and huge bathrooms, good breakfast.

In general, the Fairview Nairobi is a real treasure in Nairobi.

Check the website.

[url]www.fairviewkenya.com[/url]

You will find there a youtube movie showing exactly the way from check in to the room.

If you decide to book for Fairview, book the room with the "longer walk from reception" and your full privacy is guaranteed.

Good luck and have fun

[QUOTE=Dzikusek;1175732].Hilton was GF in 2005. However, no chance to avoid "walk of shame" and I had to register one lady.[/QUOTE]All the bigger hotels require registration and I don't consider that GF as there are plenty of ladies who don't have or don't carry I'd and that can be a serious spoiler.

[QUOTE=Dzikusek;1175732].In my opinion, Hilton is not worth the money.In general, the Fairview Nairobi is a real treasure in Nairobi.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more. If you must go into one of the expensive hotels then forget about Hilton (sub standard) , forget about Stanley (noisy). I agree that many places in the Upper Hill region are very beautiful. Fairview is one of them and the Crowne Plaza is also really nice. However please bear in mind that almost all hotels in Upper Hill are now strictly non-smoking. Most of the ladies are serial smokers and that can become a spoiler too.

[QUOTE=Professor J; 1175642]Thanks for the detailed explanation.

I think I will book NOA.

By the way, just as curiosity, are Hilton and Fairview GF hotels in your experience?[/QUOTE]Are you on an expense account? If not:

[url]http://www.afrogems.com/news/view/16-Hotel-review---The-Central-Park-Hotel-in-Nairobi/[/url]

5 min walk (or less) from the hilton.

"You don't have to enter the main hotel building, no walk of shame, absolutely nothing! Once you get the key, you can have as many visitors as you want."

By the way, are there any other hotels, for a cheaper price than the fairview ofcourse, that have this type of setup? This is truly a perfect setup.

I once stayed in a hotel where the setup was quite different; there was a main gate to seal off the hotel, a garden in the middle, and the reception was at the back. The rooms were lined at the sides of the garden so if you brought a visitor, you didn't have to pass by reception. It was about 2000 shillings a night. The draw back was that the entrance to the garden was on the opposite side of the reception, so they still have a view of whats going happening. Don't know if they were GF friendly or not.

[QUOTE=Andy Pierce;1174478]I need some help in finding suitable accommodation in Nairobi. I would prefer apartment 1 bedroom is fine. Any ideas. Planning to be there in middle of August for about 7 days. Any suggestions would be appreciated. You can PM me I think or just post to the thread is ok[/QUOTE]Hi Andy,

I know a lady with private house which is safe and cheap with all amenities, her email is, [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]

Tel +[blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue] susan mungai, she will meet you at airport also and will do your washing and cooking if needed.

Nice room for 1000 kes per night, she will actually find girls for you if you ask, there is one beauty available there for

1, 500kes per night, please do not overpay her, her name is Julieanne, and she can be found in simmers also, am not sure if this email is properly written, but

You can send her sms, tell her Irish Mike gave you her details, best wishes, Wild Rover

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Greetings all.

I know of private house in Lavington Nairobi that has rooms for rent 1, 000kes per night short term and 10,000 monthly.

Use of kitchen included, owner can provide girls also, please pm for details.

Wild Rover

Hi WR. I am interested in the roons in Lavington. Will be in NBO in Sept.

Can't work out how to PM you for the details. Could you send the details to me privately.

I can not praise the NOA more than I did before: it's not too expensive for Nairobi, it's quite, it's clean, free WiFi, nice staff and a swimming-pool. I had a lot of FS and BBBJ in that little pool house or pool chair, it turns me on somehow. Ok, it's a bit away from the action uptown (Madhouse, Simmers.) but once you have found one or two chicks you will mostly stick to them anyway (well, I do). I always have a great time there, and as mentioned earlier, you can order your ladies to your liking from the guards, they are more than willing to help you out. Give them a little bakschisch, they in turn will take some from the girl also, and you will get them delivered to your room without problems. Ask for a room on the lower floors and the windows not facing the street (the auxiliary power generator is standing that way-lots of noise when power cut).

[QUOTE=Bide59;1180999]I can not praise the NOA more than I did before: it's not too expensive for Nairobi, it's quite, it's clean, free WiFi, nice staff and a swimming-pool. I had a lot of FS and BBBJ in that little pool house or pool chair, it turns me on somehow. Ok, it's a bit away from the action uptown (Madhouse, Simmers.) but once you have found one or two chicks you will mostly stick to them anyway (well, I do). I always have a great time there, and as mentioned earlier, you can order your ladies to your liking from the guards, they are more than willing to help you out. Give them a little bakschisch, they in turn will take some from the girl also, and you will get them delivered to your room without problems. Ask for a room on the lower floors and the windows not facing the street (the auxiliary power generator is standing that way-lots of noise when power cut).[/QUOTE]What is NOA? Is this the full name or an abbreviation? And where and How Much pse!

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Donnachaa; 1181056]What is NOA? Is this the full name or an abbreviation? And where and How Much pse!

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Is the abbreviation for an apartment complex. They are very good and reasonable. They are on Turbo Road down from So. African embassy on opposite side of block from Casablanca.

Only a short distance also from YaYa Center.

If I remember a studio is 5500 a night and a 1 BR is around 7, 000 KSh. You can check their prices on their website or email them. They are very good at responding. Haven't been there myself but considering it. Sorry we couldn't hook up, had luck with a few girls off Afro Intro.

[QUOTE=Donnachaa; 1181056]What is NOA? Is this the full name or an abbreviation? And where and How Much pse!

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Interracial;1181128]If I remember a studio is 5500 a night and a 1 BR is around 7, 000 KSh. You can check their prices on their website or email them. They are very good at responding. Haven't been there myself but considering it. Sorry we couldn't hook up, had luck with a few girls off Afro Intro.[/QUOTE]Right you are. NOA is an excellent place. If they are booked another good choice is not far from there. Woodmere Apartments. About the same price.

Hello Gentlemen,

Let me just say, I love the board. The information I've received has been greatly appreciated. I just have a few questions for you that I couldn't

Find in research.

1) Mzungu. Is this strictly a term used for white foreigners, or would I be considered a Black Mzungu?

2) Since the ladies seem to be in search of a white companion, How difficult of a time do you suspect me having getting noticed?

3) Being a Black American, do you fore see any ill will towards me? I really try to steer clear of confrontational scenes.

4) Last question and I'll thank you for your time. If you were me, would you venture to Kenya or stick with S. E. Asia?

Thanks again for your time. All the best. Whiskey

[QUOTE=Whiskey Dick; 1182779]Hello, Gentlemen,

Let me just say, I love the board. The information I've received has been greatly appreciated. I just have a few questions for you that I couldn't

Find in research.

1) Mzungu. Is this strictly a term used for white foreigners, or would I be considered a Black Mzungu?

2) Since the ladies seem to be in search of a white companion, How difficult of a time do you suspect me having getting noticed?

3) Being a Black American, do you fore see any ill will towards me? I really try to steer clear of confrontational scenes.

4) Last question and I'll thank you for your time. If you were me, would you venture to Kenya or stick with S. E. Asia?

Thanks again for your time. All the best. Whiskey[/QUOTE]1) You'll surely start out not getting paid much attention to. But that will change in a flash as soon as they notice your accent and see you spending some Benjamins. Cash makes people color blind everywhere.

3) much less likely here than in SEA, I believe.

4) Try Kenya and make your own comparisons.

Can I get some info on good short term room near simmers or Florida Madhouse. In Mombasa it is easy to find short term room close to every club. Do you how much short term room with cost in nairobi town.

Thanks

Mzungu is a term used for european people, I think derived from english man, as english language in KiSvahili, is KiSungu. Indian People is Muindi and African Muafrica.

Girls aren't in search for white foreigners but for "green" (dollars) friends.

Nobody give You a problem because you're a black American, but take care because not only girls look for your money, but thugs too.

I don't know SEA but I think Africa is incomparable.

Welcome in Africa fantasyworld!

[QUOTE=Whiskey Dick; 1182779]Hello, Gentlemen,

Let me just say, I love the board. The information I've received has been greatly appreciated. I just have a few questions for you that I couldn't

Find in research.

1) Mzungu. Is this strictly a term used for white foreigners, or would I be considered a Black Mzungu?

2) Since the ladies seem to be in search of a white companion, How difficult of a time do you suspect me having getting noticed?

3) Being a Black American, do you fore see any ill will towards me? I really try to steer clear of confrontational scenes.

4) Last question and I'll thank you for your time. If you were me, would you venture to Kenya or stick with S. E. Asia?

Thanks again for your time. All the best. Whiskey[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chotu; 1182978]Can I get some info on good short term room near simmers or Florida Madhouse. In Mombasa it is easy to find short term room close to every club. Do you how much short term room with cost in nairobi town.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Try Terminal Hotel. Not far from either place. Also, there are a couple others near it.

[QUOTE=Whiskey Dick; 1182779]Hello, Gentlemen,

Let me just say, I love the board. The information I've received has been greatly appreciated. I just have a few questions for you that I couldn't

Find in research.

1) Mzungu. Is this strictly a term used for white foreigners, or would I be considered a Black Mzungu?

2) Since the ladies seem to be in search of a white companion, How difficult of a time do you suspect me having getting noticed?

3) Being a Black American, do you fore see any ill will towards me? I really try to steer clear of confrontational scenes.

4) Last question and I'll thank you for your time. If you were me, would you venture to Kenya or stick with S. E. Asia?

Thanks again for your time. All the best. Whiskey[/QUOTE]I would say you shouldn't have any problems. I was with a black South African and he was fine as he was in the right places buying drinks. Perhaps he didn't get approached so much but in some ways that can be good as you don't end up fending off the unwanted. It is easy to approach someone once you see one you like and your accent (and probably clothes) will mean they will know you are not local. And they just want your cash at the end of the day.

As for Kenya v SEA I have only sampled the delights of Thailand and suffice to say you will have a fucking great time in both places. The difference is that it is not quite so blatent in Kenya with the Thai neon and almost naked girls on the street. But once you are in the clubs it is not so different. Most people choose one or the other based on there preference for black or asian but if you like both (like me) then there is little to choose between them. Enjoy.

1) Mzungu is in strict translation a European, but as you guessed correctly it is loosely used for anyone with white skin. As for americans are called marikani in Swahili.

2) You will always be spotted as a foreigner no matter what colour you are, also your accent will give you away easily. Black africans approach women in a different way than anyone else does. Trust me you will get noticed, just due to the fact that you don't blend in.

3) There is generally no beef on the streets unless you do something stupid! So, no worries you are safe, Kenyans are not known for violence towards foreigners.

4) Go Kenya, in my opinion SE-Asian women are lame compared to African women, plus the bodies, just to die for. I guarantee you will always want to come back for more!

[QUOTE=Whiskey Dick; 1182779]Hello, Gentlemen,

Let me just say, I love the board. The information I've received has been greatly appreciated. I just have a few questions for you that I couldn't

Find in research.

1) Mzungu. Is this strictly a term used for white foreigners, or would I be considered a Black Mzungu?

2) Since the ladies seem to be in search of a white companion, How difficult of a time do you suspect me having getting noticed?

3) Being a Black American, do you fore see any ill will towards me? I really try to steer clear of confrontational scenes.

4) Last question and I'll thank you for your time. If you were me, would you venture to Kenya or stick with S. E. Asia?

Thanks again for your time. All the best. Whiskey[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jhack111; 1183956]1) Mzungu is in strict translation a European, but as you guessed correctly it is loosely used for anyone with white skin. As for americans are called marikani in Swahili.

2) You will always be spotted as a foreigner no matter what colour you are, also your accent will give you away easily. Black africans approach women in a different way than anyone else does. Trust me you will get noticed, just due to the fact that you don't blend in.

3) There is generally no beef on the streets unless you do something stupid! So, no worries you are safe, Kenyans are not known for violence towards foreigners.

4) Go Kenya, in my opinion SE-Asian women are lame compared to African women, plus the bodies, just to die for. I guarantee you will always want to come back for more![/QUOTE]Come there you will thank God

I just want to say thanks once again for everyone's help and opinions about my future African adventure. I'm 36 and I came to international travel fairly late. When I think of the time and money I wasted in my 20's vacationing in places like New England and Seattle and San Diego. I was visiting zoos for god sake! Damn it, I want all those wasted spring breaks back. The money I dropped in Vegas alone would have covered 3 or 4 trips to Thailand. Please believe me when I say that you guys, and this board, have opened my eyes to the world in a way no geography teacher ever could. I'm aiming for Nairobi in November. I'll return to the board with full details of the carnage. Oh I had one more quick question about condoms in Africa. Do most chemists carry the name brands or the weird off brands like in Thailand. Size Matters but the thought of walking through customs with a bag full of top hats does not appeal to me. Do I need to load up before I go or can I get them there? Thanks again for your patience. Oh and if any of you have any sway over the USA economy, could you make the dollar a bit stronger in November (Smiling).

Cheers,

Whiskey

[QUOTE=Whiskey Dick;1184295]Do I need to load up before I go or can I get them there?[/QUOTE]You can get them there. Durex brand available at all pharmacies and in all permutations.

Saw their ad on kenyanlistings, they claim to have Indian, Chinese, Arab and Ethiopian girls.

Anyone tried them?

Any other experience with escort / massage places on that site?

Just curious if there are alternatives to the well-known bars and discos. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Whiskey Dick; 1182779]1) Mzungu. Is this strictly a term used for white foreigners, or would I be considered a Black Mzungu?

2) Since the ladies seem to be in search of a white companion, How difficult of a time do you suspect me having getting noticed?

3) Being a Black American, do you fore see any ill will towards me? I really try to steer clear of confrontational scenes.

4) Last question and I'll thank you for your time. If you were me, would you venture to Kenya or stick with S. E. Asia?[/QUOTE]I met a couple of black guys in Ghana last year and they were having a heck of a time. The way they dressed at night and not least their accent made it easy for the ladies to identify them as foreigners with all the benefits that come along. Wear a cap with a pic of Obama and you'll be fine.

Also, they avoided a lot of street hassle during daytime by dressing somewhat local and keeping their mouths shut, I suggest you do the same. Should you see a potential 'victim' (which you will) it's easy to start something up with a lame excuse like asking for direction. Anything will work.

In Ghana these guys were called 'obrunis' which covers all non-Ghanians though probably mostly used about white people. Not sure if it's the same with mzungu in Kenya though.

It's more than 20 years since I was in Thailand. Great country, great food, great people and pussy available everywhere. But you can't have a meaningful conversation with the girls there like you can in an English speaking African country.

Have fun!

Just booked up for a short 5 night visit again to Nairobi in two weeks time. Can't wait and will report back. Just need to decide where to stay and whether to hook up with contacts from last trip.

[QUOTE=Jamie69;1186130]Just booked up for a short 5 night visit again to Nairobi in two weeks time. Can't wait and will report back. Just need to decide where to stay and whether to hook up with contacts from last trip.[/QUOTE]Time for me to pay Kenya a visit. Trying to get there in November, looking forward to your recent report from there, especially a safe place (hotel) to stay

[QUOTE=Nuff Said;1186156]Time for me to pay Kenya a visit. Trying to get there in November, looking forward to your recent report from there, especially a safe place (hotel) to stay[/QUOTE]Last time I stayed at Chester House for around $100pn. Great location next to Madhouse, was clean and spacious, decent shower and no problems with girls coming in as long as they had I'd. On the downside not exactly luxurious, TV did not work and pool area was so-so. All in all for a short visit was fine and may well stay there again.

[QUOTE=Jamie69;1186318]Last time I stayed at Chester House for around $100pn. Great location next to Madhouse, was clean and spacious, decent shower and no problems with girls coming in as long as they had I'd. On the downside not exactly luxurious, TV did not work and pool area was so-so. All in all for a short visit was fine and may well stay there again.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info Jaime69.

Can anyone recommend a nice day time activitiy (tours) besides the safari stuff. Or a trusted tour guide out there, I know some will say take / ask one of the girls you shag the night before but prefer one I did not or a professional tour guide who won't scam you. So were where some of the places you guys been? I hear there is a casino or two in Kenya also anyone been? Or there is not really much of Kenya to see during the day?

[QUOTE=Nuff Said;1187069]Can anyone recommend a nice day time activitiy (tours) besides the safari stuff. Or a trusted tour guide out there, I know some will say take / ask one of the girls you shag the night before but prefer one I did not or a professional tour guide who won't scam you. So were where some of the places you guys been? I hear there is a casino or two in Kenya also anyone been? Or there is not really much of Kenya to see during the day?[/QUOTE]My favorite daytime activity was banging the sugarwalls and backside of my temporary Kenyan gf. You could also visit the "zoo", museum, cafe (and people watch) , downtown to central business district, or to the stadium to take in a soccer match. I did 1, 3, and 4 and of course, banged the sugarwalls and backside of my temporary Kenyan gf.

[QUOTE=Jiggydus;1187232]My favorite daytime activity was banging the sugarwalls and backside of my temporary Kenyan gf. You could also visit the "zoo", museum, cafe (and people watch) , downtown to central business district, or to the stadium to take in a soccer match. I did 1, 3, and 4 and of course, banged the sugarwalls and backside of my temporary Kenyan gf.[/QUOTE]YMMV yadda yadda. But the zoo and the museums were quite unsophisticated and depressing to me.

Go to a nice hotel (that you are presumably not staying at because it's absurdly expensive) , glide in for free or pay the day fee to use the pool and gym (and bar and restaurant) , bring a book and an mp3 player and pretend you're on a cruise for three or twelve hours.

I miss Nairobi.

[QUOTE=Satyr9; 1187254]YMMV yadda yadda. But the zoo and the museums were quite unsophisticated and depressing to me.

Go to a nice hotel (that you are presumably not staying at because it's absurdly expensive) , glide in for free or pay the day fee to use the pool and gym (and bar and restaurant) , bring a book and an mp3 player and pretend you're on a cruise for three or twelve hours.

I miss Nairobi.[/QUOTE]Yeah, outside of mongering, I prefer to do low-exertion activities. I did go running and do some strength training exercises. I preferred to avoid pissy swimming pools full of little kids. I am black so I don't sun bath. Otherwise, I also watched TV programming like Border Security, Cake Boss, Mythbuster, Manswers, (yeah Discovery Channel rocks) as well as some other uniquely African programming. I also thought about playing golf but did not want to embarrass myself as I haven't touched my clubs this year due to all of my traveling.

Any recent visitor to Nairobi been to that night club in Carnivore, it's still a good place to meet girls? Plan to visit in November and will be trying to get a room at Chesters House, is that close to this club? Or is there a closer hotel to Canivore, thanks in advance for your replies.

[QUOTE=Nuff Said;1187466]Any recent visitor to Nairobi been to that night club in Carnivore, it's still a good place to meet girls? Plan to visit in November and will be trying to get a room at Chesters House, is that close to this club? Or is there a closer hotel to Canivore, thanks in advance for your replies.[/QUOTE]Chester house 100 dollar, eat in carnivore 100 dollar, girl from carnivore 100 dollar. Plaese thake enough money from your kredit card bifore you doing this 3 thinks.

[QUOTE=Nuff Said;1187466]Any recent visitor to Nairobi been to that night club in Carnivore, it's still a good place to meet girls? Plan to visit in November and will be trying to get a room at Chesters House, is that close to this club? Or is there a closer hotel to Canivore, thanks in advance for your replies.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't pick Carnivore as a place to pick up girls. They have really tasty game meat, but that's about it. There is no variety there on the girls. Plus the distance plays a part in it. Carnivore is about 8km from Chester House. And about 1km from public transport. So the girls that would make it there would have to be driving or taking a cab.

However, there are some clubs close by Carnivore where you can meet some local girls. Rafikiz and Psys which usually have a hoard of educated girls.

Hotels close by? I think there used to be a Kenya Comfort Hotel close by. Not so sure about that one.

[QUOTE=Whiskey Dick; 1184295]I just want to say thanks once again for everyone's help and opinions about my future African adventure. I'm 36 and I came to international travel fairly late. When I think of the time and money I wasted in my 20's vacationing in places like New England and Seattle and San Diego. I was visiting zoos for god sake! Damn it, I want all those wasted spring breaks back. The money I dropped in Vegas alone would have covered 3 or 4 trips to Thailand. Please believe me when I say that you guys, and this board, have opened my eyes to the world in a way no geography teacher ever could. I'm aiming for Nairobi in November. I'll return to the board with full details of the carnage. Oh I had one more quick question about condoms in Africa. Do most chemists carry the name brands or the weird off brands like in Thailand. Size Matters but the thought of walking through customs with a bag full of top hats does not appeal to me. Do I need to load up before I go or can I get them there? Thanks again for your patience. Oh and if any of you have any sway over the USA economy, could you make the dollar a bit stronger in November (Smiling).

Cheers,

Whiskey[/QUOTE]Are you for sure going in November?

[QUOTE=Spartan KE; 1187579]I wouldn't pick Carnivore as a place to pick up girls. They have really tasty game meat, but that's about it. There is no variety there on the girls. Plus the distance plays a part in it. Carnivore is about 8km from Chester House. And about 1km from public transport. So the girls that would make it there would have to be driving or taking a cab.

However, there are some clubs close by Carnivore where you can meet some local girls. Rafikiz and Psys which usually have a hoard of educated girls.

Hotels close by? I think there used to be a Kenya Comfort Hotel close by. Not so sure about that one.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info Spartan.

[QUOTE=Jamie69; 1099781]Spent a week in Nairobi recently and as I benefitede from others here it's only fair to share what I experienced.

Landed mid evening and stayed at Chester House...[/QUOTE]Nice report Jamie69, answers a lot of questions I had about bars close to Chesters, thanks. Looking forward to my stay in November

Anyone know the normal rate for a taxi from the airport to Chesters place? I noticed Chesters charges 2, 500ksh for a car to pickup. Anyone have any problems with taxi drivers (scams / over charging, etc). This would help me decide how much to exchange at the airport or the atm there.

Thanks in advance for your replies.

[QUOTE=Nuff Said; 1188472]Anyone know the normal rate for a taxi from the airport to Chesters place? I noticed Chesters charges 2, 500ksh for a car to pickup. Anyone have any problems with taxi drivers (scams / over charging, etc). This would help me decide how much to exchange at the airport or the atm there.

Thanks in advance for your replies.[/QUOTE]After you get your luggage and just before you exit the customs area through the glass doors there is a desk where a few people are working to arrange taxi transport. They will do it for you and inform you the price. Should be 1500 to 1800 shillings. May even negotiate a bit cheaper. They will escort you to a taxi. Or, you could just get one outside on your own. Find one marked as a taxi. You will have no problem. Tell the driver where you are going and negotiate the price before you leave. No worries.

[QUOTE=Nguvu2;1188535]After you get your luggage and just before you exit the customs area through the glass doors there is a desk where a few people are working to arrange taxi transport. They will do it for you and inform you the price. Should be 1500 to 1800 shillings. May even negotiate a bit cheaper. They will escort you to a taxi. Or, you could just get one outside on your own. Find one marked as a taxi. You will have no problem. Tell the driver where you are going and negotiate the price before you leave. No worries.[/QUOTE]Thanks Nguvu2

Does anyone know whether Rassmataz (?) above Bombay Cafe in Nairobi Hilton still in business?

Heard that is strictly only for foreigners and offers very special services. But that information is quite old.

I am scheduled to visit Nairobi next month and will stay there for 2 weeks.

Thank you in advance for your update.

Does anyone know where the day time action in Nairobi is other than simmers.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Chotu; 1188774]Does anyone know where the day time action in Nairobi is other than simmers.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Just step across from Simmers to 680. Sit in the coffee shot and wait. Someone will come in IF not there already. Try also any of the malls. Java Coffe shop, or Thorn Tree, mate just about anywhere you go for a drink or something to eat or even to use the internet, you should be able to meet someone.

It was well prepared.

I arranged some numbers from the Afro dating site.

27, tall and sweet. Mombasa girl.

She came to my hotel and after a drink at the bar went up to my room.

3 rounds (I was not able to run more)

Great GFE.

And she agreed to anal session

<<Rassmataz It never existed, don't loose you time, it was a lie. Good day.

will be in nairobi in 48 hours can't wait. first night am planning on a simple simmers followed by madhouse as will arriving late and they are within easy distance of chester house. will attempt to log a daily report and am only there for 5 nights. friday night my itinary has me in black diamond from 11. 00 to 1. 00 and am thinking of taking a peep in red tape either before or after. any views on that particular place would be appreciated.

So I'll be in Kenya for 10 days and trying to decide how to split that time between Nairobi (arrival / departure point) and Mombasa. I'm not really a beach person and would prefer the cool highlands (and lack of malarial mosquitoes) of Nairobi to the coastal heat and humidity of Mombasa, but reading the forum, it seems like the action is better, easier and cheaper on the coast, especially Mtwapa. Is there really a big difference?

Also is there a difference in girls' looks? In other words, is the coast's large Indian and Arab population visibly represented among the working girls?

Any thoughts, comments, suggestions on this will be welcome, and thanks in advance.

Went through the motions of buying ticket from lastminute. Com for nairobi to mombasa, the site said £73 pounds UK with Jetlink, then. Right at the end, as I checked out stuck a "ticket delivery at airport" price of extra £30 on top?

What is that charge and how can I avoid it? Eticket?

2ndly: I arrive early morning Nairboi, fly out to Mombasa later same day, where can I get a Kenyan phone SIM card that has a data connection, given I will only have 3 hours or so in the airport?

Arrived at Chester House at around 10pm and got myself into Simmers by 11. The walk from the hotel at that time of night was ok, it's very close and plenty of security guards, just need to be careful to not get too close to anyone. A couple of youngish looking girls made a grab as I headed for the bar but I wanted to grab a beer and checkout the crowd. They followed me however and one was right up my street so decided to hang out with them for abit even though I wanted to not hook up too early. Had fun with the pretty one over the next couple of hours and they were making noises about going on to Madhouse but I didn't want to be stuck with both of them for the next few hours so did not commit and ended up leaving them there. The less pretty one made an attempt for taxi money but I ignored it. They never miss an opportunity. Simmers was pretty good with lots of attention and looks and calls and a few I would have been happy to take back to the hotel.

Madhouse was same as ever, the girls more blatant with their intentions and one in particular caught my eye on the dance floor and she came over for a chat, but once again I wanted an hour alone to check everyone out. After 10 minutes I was thinking I had fucked up as she was my first choice and she had hooked up with someone else, and I was also regretting leaving the Simmers girl (Sheila). Spent some time fending off pleasant but ultimately unwanted advances whilst making eye contact with a couple of possibilities when I spotted my first choice taking a walk to the ladies. If you are reading this I apologies whoever you are but I pulled a robbery. Waited for her outside the ladies and took her to the bar in the restaurant where things soon got interesting. We fondled outragiously for the next hour before retiring from the noise to the comfort of my bed. The rest is a blur apart from resisting the no condom sex she offered and also a lovely blowjob in the morning which she swallowed. Shortly after it went downhill as she demanded 7000KES and then refused to leave when I did not up my taxi fare gift. Called security to end the stand off and she scarpered before they arrived. All in all a cracking first night much enjoyed the attention and seeing those lovely gyrating African women, and the two girls I spent time with were a 9 looks wise for me personally.

Tomorrow night am spending in Westlands.

[QUOTE=Biffa; 1190577]Went through the motions of buying ticket from lastminute. Com for nairobi to mombasa, the site said £73 pounds UK with Jetlink, then. Right at the end, as I checked out stuck a "ticket delivery at airport" price of extra £30 on top?

What is that charge and how can I avoid it? Eticket?

2ndly: I arrive early morning Nairobi, fly out to Mombasa later same day, where can I get a Kenyan phone SIM card that has a data connection, given I will only have 3 hours or so in the airport?[/QUOTE]At the moment, there are offers on return NBO-MSA flights on Kenya Airways and Fly 540 for about US$ 90. The Kenya Airways flight is proper Jet engined. I usually buy my tickets at the airport but it helps to call them in advance for availability and to confirm their offer prices. Sometimes they claim Late bookings don't qualify for the offer prices.

SIM cards are available all over. Look for a phone shop. At the airport, they may insist on registering the line in your name. I prefer to avoid that, so I bought my line from the streets of Nairobi. Cost me less than US$ 1. 00. Ask the vendor to activate the Data connection for you. If you get the Safaricom (local Vodafone) you just need to send a text to 445. They'll send you settings for your phone model.

I got an e-ticke NBO-MBA return for $110 USD on Kenya Airways. Call me if you are in Mtwapa Sept 5 to 9 and looking for group action.

[QUOTE=Biffa; 1190577]Went through the motions of buying ticket from lastminute. Com for nairobi to mombasa, the site said £73 pounds UK with Jetlink, then. Right at the end, as I checked out stuck a "ticket delivery at airport" price of extra £30 on top?

What is that charge and how can I avoid it? Eticket?

2ndly: I arrive early morning Nairboi, fly out to Mombasa later same day, where can I get a Kenyan phone SIM card that has a data connection, given I will only have 3 hours or so in the airport?[/QUOTE]

Hello,. Reporting back few days in Nairobi. Stayed at heron. Up the road some 300 meters there is a local bar / club with hotel included (after the backpackers camp). Few chicks around. Some really good. Some funny well performing sisters. Can't remember the name something coumpound. Even a hairdresser and restaurants inside. Activity all week.

Wanted to try another thing went in a taxi to place 70 peponi road (found ref here on this board) with a wingman, got in ordered a drink and then after paying, a girl probably the manager came and ask us to leave because private party (apparently our taxi entered the house (looks like a private house, no sign outside) after a car that was part of the private party).

I asked for a refund of the drinks, she said no way. Got pissed and we left the drinks untouched, paid, and left. I said to her I will report back. Done

[QUOTE=Jamie69; 1190623]Arrived at Chester House at around 10pm and got myself into Simmers by 11. The walk from the hotel at that time of night was ok, it's very close and plenty of security guards, just need to be careful to not get too close to anyone. A couple of youngish looking girls made a grab as I headed for the bar but I wanted to grab a beer and checkout the crowd. They followed me however and one was right up my street so decided to hang out with them for abit even though I wanted to not hook up too early. Had fun with the pretty one over the next couple of hours and they were making noises about going on to Madhouse but I didn't want to be stuck with both of them for the next few hours so did not commit and ended up leaving them there. The less pretty one made an attempt for taxi money but I ignored it. They never miss an opportunity. Simmers was pretty good with lots of attention and looks and calls and a few I would have been happy to take back to the hotel.

Madhouse was same as ever, the girls more blatant with their intentions and one in particular caught my eye on the dance floor and she came over for a chat, but once again I wanted an hour alone to check everyone out. After 10 minutes I was thinking I had fucked up as she was my first choice and she had hooked up with someone else, and I was also regretting leaving the Simmers girl (Sheila). Spent some time fending off pleasant but ultimately unwanted advances whilst making eye contact with a couple of possibilities when I spotted my first choice taking a walk to the ladies. If you are reading this I apologies whoever you are but I pulled a robbery. Waited for her outside the ladies and took her to the bar in the restaurant where things soon got interesting. We fondled outragiously for the next hour before retiring from the noise to the comfort of my bed. The rest is a blur apart from resisting the no condom sex she offered and also a lovely blowjob in the morning which she swallowed. Shortly after it went downhill as she demanded 7000KES and then refused to leave when I did not up my taxi fare gift. Called security to end the stand off and she scarpered before they arrived. All in all a cracking first night much enjoyed the attention and seeing those lovely gyrating African women, and the two girls I spent time with were a 9 looks wise for me personally.

Tomorrow night am spending in Westlands.[/QUOTE]Hope this girl doesn't cause too much trouble for you if you run into her again at one of the bars

Checked out the pool scene at the Holiday Inn (Southern Sun) which was quiet at around 9pm. Had an average meal there and decided to check out Red Tape. Should have stayed at the indoor bar at the hotel as there appeared to be a few there when I was leaving. I though Red Tape was a strip joint but there was no sign of that. It was dead in there and I left at around midnight after a drunk fat girl decided I was fair game much to the amusement of the staff.

Went into Black Diamond for an hour which was heaving and plenty of nice looking girls but also many many white men. Went on to Gypseys which was even more fun and the quality even higher. Ultimately the game here is no different to Madhouse in my opinion, apart from the fact that the prices will be higher. Hooked up with a lovely girl from Congo, mixed race and 6ft tall. We retired back to mine and had great time with lots of toy play. She wanted to head back out after to a club nearby just off Koinange Avenue, felt a little unsafe as we went down a dimly lit side road and then down some steps. It was around 4 by this time and they wanted to charge full entry price. No Way. This was a funny little bar with around 20 people, small dance floor. It seemed to play her Congo music so maybe a place where they hand out. Of course I was the only white guy there which was fine by me. Stayed there drinking until they kicked us out at 6 I think. Oh by the way after the morning after stand off from my first night I made sure prices were agreed in advance and her first offer was 10, 000 LOL.

Saturday will be spent with a girl I have stayed in contact with from my last trip and we originally met on Affro. She was even better looking in person and not a pro.

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5; 1190414]So I'll be in Kenya for 10 days and trying to decide how to split that time between Nairobi (arrival / departure point) and Mombasa. I'm not really a beach person and would prefer the cool highlands (and lack of malarial mosquitoes) of Nairobi to the coastal heat and humidity of Mombasa, but reading the forum, it seems like the action is better, easier and cheaper on the coast, especially Mtwapa. Is there really a big difference?

Also is there a difference in girls' looks? In other words, is the coast's large Indian and Arab population visibly represented among the working girls?

Any thoughts, comments, suggestions on this will be welcome, and thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]The climate on the Coast is very pleasant right now, in the mid twenties in Celsius, and low humidity.

Don't know of any Indian WG's but there are plenty of mixed blood.

Next week I am coming to Kenya after 2 years. Can anyone tell what is current short term and long term price in Nairobi?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Chotu; 1191036]Next week I am coming to Kenya after 2 years. Can anyone tell what is current short term and long term price in Nairobi?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I was in Nairobi in July and I paid for long term from 3000 to 7000. Never had short term.

[QUOTE=Ellington;1191047]I was in Nairobi in July and I paid for long term from 3000 to 7000. Never had short term.[/QUOTE]If you pay more than 2000ksh. Than you need big lesson in Kenya prices.

1000ksh ST.

7000ksh is salery for one month, Kenya worker without diplome.

I haven't told this story to anyone since it's kind of embarrassing. But here goes:

I was traveling to Madagascar in October 2009 flying out from London and changing planes in Nairobi. We arrived to Nairobi early in the morning as scheduled and had to wait a couple of hours for the connection to Madagascar. I'll cut the details but they include more waiting, flight to Madagascar where we couldn't land because of bad weather, going down in Tanzania and sitting in the plane for another hour until we returned to Nairobi late evening. Kenya Airways informed us that we wouldn't get to Madagascar until 2 (!) days later but they would provide accomodation. And they sure did! Looking at the web I can tell that it was Hotel Nairobi Safari Club [url]http://www.nairobisafariclub.com[/url] which must cost a gazillion bucks per night. We weren't there until after midnight so all I did was have a meal and a couple of beers before hitting the sack, I had been on the road for some 36 hours then.

Next day I took a look at Nairobi strolling down what I now know is Koinange Street, exchanging some money, and being mildly hassled by toots who wanted to sell me safaris, souvenirs and what not. And since I had never set foot in Africa I enjoyed every minute it including noises, smells and the cra<y trafic! In my 1st bright moment of the day I found a pharmacy and stocked up on generic viagra. I had studied the Madagascar part of this forum carefully (you gotta research before you go) and also browsed a bit here in the Kenya forum without paying much attention to details so I didn't know shit about nothing. Until I suddenly saw a sign on the street that said Simmers; that rang a distant bell. It must have been early afternoon but a man can always use a beer so I entered the place. Not very many people there but some mighty friendly women so I chatted a bit with them but refused to pay their drinks. They weren't hot enough for that and my hotel didn't seem the GF type to me--I certainly couldn't afford a joiner's fee there. Also, I had most of my thoughts elsewhere since I wasn't even supposed to be in Nairobi.

I took a nap later in the afternoon because we had been told that we'd be picked up for the airport next morning at 5am and I wanted to arrive to Madagascar in good shape ready for action. Then the complimentary dinner (excellent buffet by the way) and I headed down to Simmers around 8pm and the place was already rocking pretty good. Lotsa chicks ranging from "wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole" to "that's one mighty fine piece of pussy". There was a band playing and I felt great, even started jumping around a bit which is my version of dancing. Suddenly a white guy came over and asked if he could buy me a beer. Free beer is my favourite brand and I had just finished a Tusker so promptly got another one. I thanked for the beer and talked with the guy, a British expat in his 60s who was sitting with his buddy in the bar."Oh, you looked so happy so we thought we'd buy you a beer" was the only explanation I got for this unexpected generosity.

Nice as the guys were I soon excused myself and headed back near the dance floor to check out music and women. Obviously a lot hit on me but I had this 5am pick up and a supposedly non-GF hotel so I didn't get involved, just enjoyed the evening and brushed them away. Until whatwashername suddenly was standing next to me. Oh she was hot, early 20s, maybe 1.70 tall, slim, long hair, bubbly butt, size B tits. So she got a beer or soda or whatever out of me and we talked a bit. And then sat down and talked some more with me explaining the unfortunate situation with hotel and all. She was very sweet and understanding and we had a good talk until it was about time for me to leave, probably 11pm. For reasons unknown she thought it a good idea that I should give her "a little money" suggesting 1000 KSH and when that failed completely, kindly went down to 500. Now, I don't pay for nothing but then I had my 2nd bright moment of the day--I guess that Africa stimulates one's creativity!

To be continued...

[QUOTE=Willyboy; 1191211]If you pay more than 2000ksh. Than you need big lesson in Kenya prices.

1000ksh ST.

7000ksh is salery for one month, Kenya worker without diplome.[/QUOTE]I know there are some on here who do not think a few overpaying has any effect on the market, but from my experience, I find that when enough punters start overpaying, it does have an adverse effect on market prices (all one needs to do is to look at any other commodity for purchase on the market-lady companionship is no different). I won't continue to rail, but my post trip report from earlier in the year will be posted soon. I must apologize in advance that I do not have photos outside of those of the gf I stayed with for a little over a month as I didn't take my camera with me to Casaurani night club the one instance I ventured into the p4p scene in Mombasa or whenever I hooked up with my Ugandan gf and the semi-pro I hooked up with at Rock Garden in Kampala (of course, that portion of my report will be posted in the Uganda thread).

Part 1 of the story ended with me sitting in Simmers with a hot young woman who shall remain nameless-I have forgotten her name.

Miss X accepted that I wouldn't give her money for nothing, I guess she just routinely had tried her luck without any real expectations. And then I had what seemed like a bright idea and told her that I was in the market for a blow job! But it couldn't be in my hotel (see Part 1) and there was no way I'd pay for another room just to be relieved. That was a challenge for the lovely young thing but I clearly stimulated her thinking by offering 1000 KSH for the deed "and maybe a tip". It took a while but then she went "I think I know where" with a cute smile that caused an immediate erection. I hadn't been really groping her (I don't do that much in public) but we'd been flirting, holding hands and other kid stuff and also doing the usual sweet talk about Kenya's GNP growth, Emanuel Kant's philosophy, global warming etc. so my private member had woken up long ago. Now he jumped to full alert. "Let's go", she said.

And so we did. Out the main entrance and a very fast escape across Kenyatta Avenue to avoid multiple female beggars, most carrying infants. Really sad and I have to admit that I didn't give anything; it seemed pointless and stopping there would just have meant more beggars surrounding us. We turned left and started strolling along the avenue arm in arm and probably looking very respectable; Miss X was decently dressed. Not many people on the street that night but also no discreet places for us to be alone for maybe 15 minutes. I was also starting to get a bit worried; was I being set up? Would a bunch of big guys suddenly jump me and rob my money? Not that I carried much cash but I am always concerned about my health. But Miss X hadn't made any phone calls in Simmers and there was no way she could have predicted this situation so I calmed down and caressed her amazingly firm ass as we walked. First black ass I have ever touched, do you remember the feeling?

"Let's try here". We had walked around 400 meters (1/4 mile) and there were some trees close to the sidewalk. Behind the trees it was dark. So behind the trees we went and finally I got to grab her ass properly while we giggled like teenagers. I did take time to check the surroundings, we were at the edge of a large parking lot. Every now and then (and far too often for my taste) people passed by on the sidewalk only 2 meters away. And was it really dark enough? I had my doubts but also a throbbing erection so it was no match; it simply had to be dark enough! And fun too with her hands working my crotch while we kissed and I fondled tits and ass and whatever. To the other side was the near empty parking lot with no light and no people that I could see. Miss X unbuttoned my trousers and pulled them down a bit. I leaned back against a tree.

And she gave a good BBBJ indeed. Often interrupted while people walked past so we had to quiet down before she could start working on me again. CIM after what seemed a long time, not sure if she swallowed or not, pants up, paid 1000 KSH + 200 tip and quickly back to the sidewalk. A true love story with a very happy (for me at least) ending.

But then things happened fast! Just as we got back on the sidewalk, me still buttoning up, a large 4x4 came around the corner and stopped at us. Out came 4 guys in uniform and asked what we were doing. "Shit" I thought to myself and told them that we were just out for a walk. "You were not walking, we were watching you" said the one who appeared to be the leader of the group. They were not police but some kind of private guards working across the parking lot. But they were big, in uniform and 4 of them. The leader started talking about "offending public decency" or something along those lines and mentioned police. "Bet you felt real offended during the whole BJ" I said to myself but kept quiet. Not Miss X, she had balls (not literally I hope!) and said that we were ready to go to the police and that we had done nothing wrong. And right she was, the guys didn't have a strong case but then again I had a plane to catch a few hours later so the last thing I needed was to get the police involved. It's a bit blurred now but one of the guys talked about God knows what and to whom in his radio while Miss X worked up a temper, she was ready for battle!

I could see myself missing the plane so I had to do something! I pulled the leader aside and talked to him about "no harm done" and "we're all men" and BS like that, even complimented them for their quick reaction. Guess it doesn't get more pathetic than that but it softened him somewhat. And during our talk Miss X was giving the other 3 guys a hard time but I missed the finer details in that. To cut a long story short, I parted with my last 500-600 KSH, got Miss X calmed down, and said goodbye to the guys who drove off. And then I cracked up! I laughed so hard that I nearly wet my pants and Miss X started to laugh too; it had been such an absurd situation. She did get angry a few minutes later when she found out that I had actually paid the guys but it didn't last long. And hand in hand we walked into the sunset or rather to the corner of Kenyatta Avenue and Koinange Street where we swore each other never ending love, kissed several times and she gave me her phone number which I sadly have lost.

End of story. And 24 hours later I was in bed with a lovely girl in Antananarivo...

[QUOTE=Jazz123; 1191735]Part 1 of the story ended with me sitting in Simmers with a hot young woman who shall remain nameless-I have forgotten her name.

Miss X accepted that I wouldn't give her money for nothing, I guess she just routinely had tried her luck without any real expectations. And then I had what seemed like a bright idea and told her that I was in the market for a blow job! But it couldn't be in my hotel (see Part 1) and there was no way I'd pay for another room just to be relieved. That was a challenge for the lovely young thing but I clearly stimulated her thinking by offering 1000 KSH for the deed "and maybe a tip". It took a while but then she went "I think I know where" with a cute smile that caused an immediate erection. I hadn't been really groping her (I don't do that much in public) but we'd been flirting, holding hands and other kid stuff and also doing the usual sweet talk about Kenya's GNP growth, Emanuel Kant's philosophy, global warming etc. So my private member had woken up long ago. Now he jumped to full alert."Let's go", she said.

And so we did. Out the main entrance and a very fast escape across Kenyatta Avenue to avoid multiple female beggars, most carrying infants. Really sad and I have to admit that I didn't give anything; it seemed pointless and stopping there would just have meant more beggars surrounding us. We turned left and started strolling along the avenue arm in arm and probably looking very respectable; Miss X was decently dressed. Not many people on the street that night but also no discreet places for us to be alone for maybe 15 minutes. I was also starting to get a bit worried; was I being set up? Would a bunch of big guys suddenly jump me and rob my money? Not that I carried much cash but I am always concerned about my health. But Miss X hadn't made any phone calls in Simmers and there was no way she could have predicted this situation so I calmed down and caressed her amazingly firm ass as we walked. First black ass I have ever touched, do you remember the feeling?

"Let's try here". We had walked around 400 meters (1/4 mile) and there were some trees close to the sidewalk. Behind the trees it was dark. So behind the trees we went and finally I got to grab her ass properly while we giggled like teenagers. I did take time to check the surroundings, we were at the edge of a large parking lot. Every now and then (and far too often for my taste) people passed by on the sidewalk only 2 meters away. And was it really dark enough? I had my doubts but also a throbbing erection so it was no match; it simply had to be dark enough! And fun too with her hands working my crotch while we kissed and I fondled tits and ass and whatever. To the other side was the near empty parking lot with no light and no people that I could see. Miss X unbuttoned my trousers and pulled them down a bit. I leaned back against a tree.

And she gave a good BBBJ indeed. Often interrupted while people walked past so we had to quiet down before she could start working on me again. CIM after what seemed a long time, not sure if she swallowed or not, pants up, paid 1000 KSH + 200 tip and quickly back to the sidewalk. A true love story with a very happy (for me at least) ending.

But then things happened fast! Just as we got back on the sidewalk, me still buttoning up, a large 4x4 came around the corner and stopped at us. Out came 4 guys in uniform and asked what we were doing."Shit" I thought to myself and told them that we were just out for a walk."You were not walking, we were watching you" said the one who appeared to be the leader of the group. They were not police but some kind of private guards working across the parking lot. But they were big, in uniform and 4 of them. The leader started talking about "offending public decency" or something along those lines and mentioned police."Bet you felt real offended during the whole BJ" I said to myself but kept quiet. Not Miss X, she had balls (not literally I hope!) and said that we were ready to go to the police and that we had done nothing wrong. And right she was, the guys didn't have a strong case but then again I had a plane to catch a few hours later so the last thing I needed was to get the police involved. It's a bit blurred now but one of the guys talked about God knows what and to whom in his radio while Miss X worked up a temper, she was ready for battle!

I could see myself missing the plane so I had to do something! I pulled the leader aside and talked to him about "no harm done" and "we're all men" and BS like that, even complimented them for their quick reaction. Guess it doesn't get more pathetic than that but it softened him somewhat. And during our talk Miss X was giving the other 3 guys a hard time but I missed the finer details in that. To cut a long story short, I parted with my last 500-600 KSH, got Miss X calmed down, and said goodbye to the guys who drove off. And then I cracked up! I laughed so hard that I nearly wet my pants and Miss X started to laugh too; it had been such an absurd situation. She did get angry a few minutes later when she found out that I had actually paid the guys but it didn't last long. And hand in hand we walked into the sunset or rather to the corner of Kenyatta Avenue and Koinange Street where we swore each other never ending love, kissed several times and she gave me her phone number which I sadly have lost.

End of story. And 24 hours later I was in bed with a lovely girl in Antananarivo.[/QUOTE]Count yourself very lucky mister.

Had it been real cops, you would have parted with much more.

Especially had it come to light, as it would eventually would, that you were departing that night. You would easily have parted with KSH 50, 000 to 100, 000. Even if it meant calling back home for the cash.

I also need to mention that the gals are usually in consort with the cops (your case seems different). But many a nairobi man has parted with KSH 5, 000 to 10, 000 when the gal takes the man to fuck in his car in a parking lot, underground parking etc. The guard, who is also in on it, calls the cops and they appear very fast.

Next time just take a room & do it right.

[QUOTE=LustyHombre; 1190973]The climate on the Coast is very pleasant right now, in the mid twenties in Celsius, and low humidity.

Don't know of any Indian WG's but there are plenty of mixed blood.[/QUOTE]Thanks LustyHombre.

So it is true then that the gals on the coast are generally more attractive than in Nairobi?

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5; 1192087]Thanks LustyHombre.

So it is true then that the gals on the coast are generally more attractive than in Nairobi?[/QUOTE]It depends totally on what your view of attractive is.

[QUOTE=Mukio;1191980]Count yourself very lucky mister. Had it been real cops, you would have parted with much more...[/QUOTE]
Thank you for your comments and you're completely right. It was a learning experience about what NOT to do and I haven't been in 'mongering trouble' since then. I was luckier than I deserved and got a unique experience basically free.

I'm certainly happy that the guys chose to 'have their decency offended' until I had shot my load! And also that I had paid for the excellent service before shit hit the fan.

[QUOTE=Mukio;1191980]Next time just take a room & do it right.[/QUOTE]
In this particular case I should simply have left Simmers alone. But she was such a lovely girl...

I have been traveling quite a bit this year making up for lost time so to speak. I returned late last year from a stint in the sandbox, so I was chopping at the bit to relieve some of that pent up PTSD. While in the sandbox, I had been cultivating some online relationships with quite a few ladies from the Afro sites. I had so many that I had to compile a database of their pertinent information as well as a picture of each one because I had made the mistake of confusing a lady I was talking to with another I had just started talking to and she busted me out. So I always reference my "cheat sheet" before I engage in chat with any of my ladies. I had wanted to visit Nairobi mid year 2010, but let's just say "big brother Uncle Sam" put a kabosh on my rest and relaxation plans. So to thumb my nose at US, I decided to go for a much longer visit when I was no longer under those restraints. I have never been in jail in my life (knock on wood) but now I know what it is like to be "on lockdown" and that is hard on anyone who is a hyper monger (I once saw so many escorts in a single week one time that I realized I had blew through one G just like that! And no I wasn't seeing 5 star ladies, more like average ladies at 2 stars tops (and that is stars in terms of gifts not looks). But that was in my younger days before I started traveling internationally and I quickly realized what I had been missing by just mongering in the US. So back to the story. I had set up contacts with no less than 15 ladies in Nairobi. One I had identified as the one I would focus on and through I frequent yahoo IMs, I decided to stay at her place the closer my visit came around. I kept the rest in "my back pocket" just in case things didn't pan out for me. Now being a true monger, I really would not have made that move unless the prospects of a super good time was to be had, and she had assured me that everything was on the menu. Everything was available to be sampled and enjoyed! I couldn't turn down an offer like that. I had cemented my visit plans in August of 2010, and had planned to use my frequent flyer miles to first fly to Ghana and celebrate the new year for a week there, and then proceed onward to Nairobi. I also would have returned to Ghana at the end of my nearly 3 month vacation (yes I took a note from all you folks in the Euro zone-you really know how to destress) and enjoy myself for another week before returning to reality. My plan also called for me to purchase R / T air tickets to visit Mombasa and Uganda during the time I was in Kenya. But that historic post Christmas snowstorm that blitzed the East Coast wrecked my plans. Not to be denied, I ended up just buying a one-way business class ticket directly to Nairobi, of course going through Amsterdam. No I am not loaded but I had to get away and the difference between the economy fare and business class fare was only about $500 so I did cost-benefit analysis and flying for 19 hours in coach just to save $500 did not appeal to my analytical senses. Besides since I was going to Kenya, I did what the man at the top would do-I just charged it to my credit card so it wasn't like I had that less money to spend at that time to thoroughly enjoy myself. Upon arrival in Nairobi, I was met by a driver she had arranged to pick me up from the airport. He took me to her place which was not that far from the airport. She actually stayed in a nice housing complex just off the main road that leads from the airport into the central business district of Nairobi. Now we had been webcaming all the while I was in the sandbox, so I knew what she looked like quite vividly (nothing outright naked but closer to my visit she did entice me with some of her sexy lingerie). I knew what awaited me was fine and good. Now I have to make a qualifying statement about that-although I had ladies on my roster that were much more attractive than she, she still had all the right "assets" that turned me on. My reasoning is that I would much rather be with a 6 or 7 that blows my mind rather than a 10 that leaves me asking "Is that it?"

So for those keeping track, right now I am out over 4G's and I am just about to meet my 7 rated long distance temporary gf.

[QUOTE=Jazz123;1192296]In this particular case I should simply have left Simmers alone. But she was such a lovely girl.[/QUOTE]. Just take her to the Terminal Hotel across from the Nakumatt. A mere five-minute walk from Simmers. Ten if you're drunk.

Rooms for super cheap. 30-40 USD. And clean enough.

NI actually had kept a journal of my time spent getting to Kenya, and activities and observations in Nairobi, Mombasa, and Kampala. But as I reread what I had written, I realize I had been writing more for my personal benefit rather than as something I would post here (there are some details that anyone else reading my report would say,"So, WTF that is not pertinent to me"). So I will continue to summarize my experience as concisely as possible. I should note that my intent during this trip was to mostly experience the non-pro GFE and I got that with my temporary gf. But I was also constantly working to get her to come around to having a 3-some (it never happened, but she was somewhat fine with me going out by myself and seeing the sights and sounds at Causaurani in Mtwapa).

Now when I met my gf at her place, I could only smile and be greatly relieved because she looked even more attractive than what I had seen online during our webcams. We hugged and kissed and I was extremely pleased with her presentation. Nice first impression! Her place was nice and immaculate. She had a housegirl who cooked and cleaned for her (no I never crossed that line, but the thought did cross my mind.). She had prepared dinner for me and we had drinks. After I had my fill, we settled on the couch and talked briefly. Now we had been IMing, sometimes for hours at a time while I was in the sandbox. So there really was not much we had to discuss at that particular time. I won't detail the intercourse of events blow by blow, but let me put it like this-she was great at giving massages, bbbjtcimws, prostrate massages (not really my thing for it to be done on me but it turned her on) , sex in multiple positions, DATY until I had her snapping her fingers and toes and convulsing like she was having an epilectic seizure from the neck down. At first, we were having sex in the morning, at noon time and at night time. You can imagine that a man can only do that for so long, and by early January, I was down to just giving it to her once a day, but that session was an extremely long one. I also broke her anal cherry on New Years day. I did manage to snap some photos of her that day and even got some of her nicely shaved pu$sy, but one day when we were at a cafe, she asked to see my camera and discreetly deleted those photos. I was pissed, so I paid her back by fucking her ass really good that night! I also video taped some of our sessions and those are safe, though I am still figuring out how to edit what I have into a single edition (I kept starting and stopping so I have a lot of separate segments of a single session). Before I came, I also made sure that we were both tested for all STDs so I only used a condom when I first took her anally and also on the toy I inserted up her ass. I wasn't concerned about getting her pregnant since it seems my soldiers are not up to that task anymore. She also had this time off from work so our days were filled with relaxing at her place, going out to the cafe and tourist sights, touring Nairobi, visiting her family and friends (she actually had a friend-a fine one I might add-who had met a mzungu on Afro and was giving it up-I asked if it would be possible to have a 3-some with her but since the girl was her hairdresser, she did not feel comfortable going there with her). Besides the friend was more about looking for a man for marriage than for just fun. Now for full disclosure: I didn't formally give her any amount of money that was directly comparable to what I would have paid to stay in a hotel, but while I was there, I did take care of paying for various things related to her house. I never paid her rent, but I did pay for the weekly water delivery (10K KSH) , one propane tank (25K KSH) , fuel for her car, groceries and most dining out expenses. I also covered the cost for the goat we ate for New Year's as well as helping her out here and there with certain expenses with her fledgling business. So I won't say I fucked all that time for free. But I did realize that one could end up spending way more being with a gf than someone staying in a hotel and going the p4p route. In retrospect, when I did the calculations, I about broke even on this trip compared to what I had figured I would pay staying in a moderately price hotel (about $60USD tops) for most of the trip with perhaps several nights in a high-end hotel ($100+ per night) , and mixing up with a variety of p4p girls. In addition to my sightseeing outings with my gf, I also spent some time each week surfing the internet at Java House Cafe. There are several locations around Nairobi and you can surf internet for free as long as you buy something. Although I didn't play around in Nairobi during this time, I had ample opportunity to observe the sights and I can attest that there are just as many attractive women in Nairobi as there are in Mombasa. One of the attached photos demonstrate the fineness that is walking around the streets of Nairobi. So for those just chomping at the bit to get to Mombasa, I would say to give Nairobi a chance. In fact, when I revisit East Africa later this year, I have over 25 ladies lined up in Nairobi, just as many in Mombasa and Kampala, a few up in Ethiopia, and some down in Rwanda, Tanzania, and Malawi. I also have a bevy of beauties in Ghana and Jamaica too as well as a few lined up for when I visit Colombia.

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Now I never set foot inside any of the clubs in Nairobi. I didn't need to since I had a gf who truly rocked my world. And I am experienced and mature enough to know that 3-somes and more-somes are not really all they are cracked up to be except in rare occasions. My experiences have left me satisfied with one-on-one encounters. I think the best multiples experience are had when all have had some spirits to drink, and I rarely do that when I am mongering alone, as is my style. But I did want to contribute to the information on this site so I took pictures of as much as I could while touring around Nairobi. I think this and the rest of the information will help someone out who has never been to Nairobi.

For those planning to go on Safaris or even to visit the Animal Santuary, be prepared to gladly pay 10x what a Kenyan citizen would pay to access those same facilities. Of course there are discounts for those who happen to be foreign residents in Kenya but I and many others who visit Kenya do not fall into that category. I understand the concept but I must admit the wide disparity in prices for certain tourist sites made me re-evaluate my desire to go to certain places. Of course, I probably would have had no problem going anywhere with my guide if she were a 9 or 10 and still dynamite in bed (or wherever we happened to get it on). But given suspected that if my gf saw me freely blowing cash on various recreational pursuits, she would have expected me to have no problems fully supporting her business venture. Now I did ask her about all the ins and outs of her business, and when I didn't get the warm and fuzzy about it, I knew she really just wanted me to support her lifestyle. So I helped a bit, but no where near as much as she had wanted me to do so. Again, I tallied up what I would have spent had I stayed in hotel accommodations the entire time I was with her. We only stayed in a hotel when we visited Mombasa, so I ended up staying at her place for 36 days. If I would have stayed in a hotel that entire time, my lodging and food expenses would have been about $100USD per day, so I would have spent $3, 600USD (of course, the actual currency spent would have been Kenya Schillings but for my tracking purposes, I am keeping tally in USD). If I would have figured on being with a different p4p lady each of those 36 nights, I would have spent an additional $1, 000USD (this factors in monetary gift to girl as well as drinks and club entrance fees). So just for my stay in Nairobi alone, I would have been out $4, 600USD. I entered Kenya with about $9, 100USD and I left with $5, 600USD. I also paid cash for the hotel rooms in Mombasa and Kampala so I believe I came out way ahead going the non-pro gf route as opposed to the strictly p4p route. I had thought I had broken even in my earlier post but I forgot to account for my trips to Mombasa and Kampala and the cash I spent there. And the money I gave to my temporary gf probably kept her going for about a month or so, and I was fine with that, but no way would this playa be on the hook for supporting her the entire year.

I digress. As others have mentioned, it is fairly easy to get to Kenya these days. I prefer to keep my travel on a single alliance as opposed to just flying the cheapest fare out there, though the alliance I fly often times have the lowest fare from my home to various destinations. I fly way too much to cut my teeth over a few dollars or even a hundred dollar difference in fare. I know that if I fly an airline I don't have status with, I will pay that difference saved in baggage fees, food purchases on plane and during layover (with my status I get access to nice lounges that feature FREE food and drink) in various Euro airports-it is robbery to pay 10 Euro for a half a sandwich, and the inconvenience of not being able to board plane first to score overhead bin space for carryon (I have long legs so putting it under the seat in front is not a good option for me). Though I don't just blindly purchase tickets from my preferred alliance as I always check Bing travel to compare the fares before pulling the purchase trigger.

This is the hotel I would have stayed in had I not stayed with my gf. Right down in the central business district close to all the night clubs (walking distance). About walking: I know that many have reported the unsafe conditions in Nairobi and even Mombasa, I have to say that I actually walked around the downtown central business district several nights and also a little ways on the main road leading from the CBD to the airport and never experienced any problems. Disclosure: yes I am black but it is easy to tell I am not from Kenya. Oh and I also weigh close to 200 pounds so maybe that could be why none of the Kenyans or shady foreigners bothered me. The only people that bothered me were all those destitute muslim ladies with children begging on the sidewalks. How great is that! Allah Akbar!

Appreciate the reports friend. Too bad she deleted the treasure on your camera. Well, you will just have to get more. Sorry you couldn't manage that 3 some with her hairdresser. But hey, you had a great time with wonderful lady. By the way any info available on the hairdresser? Would appreciate. And the video, looking forward to seeing them if you get them posted. When you return and possibly stay there again, keep in mind, water and propane are not that expensive but WTF, you had a great time which included introducing your lady to the world of anal pleasure. Way to go.

[QUOTE=Jiggydus;1192326]And the money I gave to my temporary gf probably kept her going for about a month or so, and I was fine with that, but no way would this playa be on the hook for supporting her the entire year.[/QUOTE]Sorry Jiggydus, but are you trying to convince us that:

Staying in different hotels right in the middle of the action, eating my choise of food at restaurants, bringing a different girl to my room everyday is breaking it even with having to put up with one girl for a whole month somewhere near the airport?

I'm not sure, but does 'playa' mean getting played or does in involve playing others? I would recommend that you spend more time reading this forum and learning from others experience. When I hook up on afro its for a freebie at the cost of spending time and effort chatting them up, or at least minimizing the khs spent. Not that I would hook up there and end up spending the same amount of money. $100 a night or more with my choice of ass, bed and food, why would anyone want to do that?

Anyway, to each his own but I'm pretty sure she's the one being called a 'playa' by all her friends being that she managed to make $5000 dollars a month out of a mzungu – that's most likely the business that she was hinting on getting you to support.

(25000 for gas?)

I mean you complained in the beginning of your posts that you blew almost $1000 dollars on different escorts in one week in the US, do you not realize that you've blown the same amount on just one girl in africa?

By the way, do you go by the same username on afro?

[QUOTE=Norweez; 1192980]Sorry Jiggydus, but are you trying to convince us that:

Staying in different hotels right in the middle of the action, eating my choise of food at restaurants, bringing a different girl to my room everyday is breaking it even with having to put up with one girl for a whole month somewhere near the airport?

I'm not sure, but does 'playa' mean getting played or does in involve playing others? I would recommend that you spend more time reading this forum and learning from others experience. When I hook up on afro its for a freebie at the cost of spending time and effort chatting them up, or at least minimizing the khs spent. Not that I would hook up there and end up spending the same amount of money. $100 a night or more with my choice of ass, bed and food, why would anyone want to do that?

Anyway, to each his own but I'm pretty sure she's the one being called a 'playa' by all her friends being that she managed to make $5000 dollars a month out of a mzungu – that's most likely the business that she was hinting on getting you to support.

(25000 for gas?)

I mean you complained in the beginning of your posts that you blew almost $1000 dollars on different escorts in one week in the US, do you not realize that you've blown the same amount on just one girl in africa?

By the way, do you go by the same username on afro?[/QUOTE]Yeah I tend to agree with you. Each to their own for sure but the attraction for me is going out each night and seeing what is available and hopefully ending up with your number one choice. I go for the variety and avoid the girlfriend thing. The next mroning I want them gone so I can recover for the next night. I had 5 nights available to me recently and I had 3 numbers set up. All from affro, one I had met before, another who we had enjoyed cam play with, and the third just a chance of fun. In the end I only met one and whilst it was good I made it clear I was out alone the next night.

spent last saturday with a contact i had made last time. went to the cinema then food at a japanese place somewhere in westlands which was good. that night we went to black diamond for abit. it did not look quite as good as friday to me but there was still plenty of choice. later we went to madhouse which was packed. as we walked around holding hands with her in front dragging me through i got touched up without her knowing which was a thrill.

next day we went to village market (i think that was the name). this was in an area near the embassys and we hung around playing pool then had a meal in a good italian upstairs. there was also a congo band playing. that night i went alone to simmers but it was crap. no talent and a couple of ugly women were really persistant. tried madhouse at around 12. 30 and that was disappointing too. thought it was not going to be my night but resolved to stay around on the off chance that someone would turn up or i might get drunk enough to lower my standards. fortunately it got a fair bit busier over the next hour and i did hook up with a lovely looker. actually whilst we were sat next to the dance floor someone else caught my eye and i amused myself by making eye contact and swapping smiles over my choices shoulder with the other as she danced. later i met the other on the stairs and realized that we had got together on my last visit. took the other back with me and had a great night eventually flooding her crack with my cum with much encouragement from her.

monday was my final night and i had a good meal in the mall westlands (tamamba i think). the waiters were determined to make sure i enjoyed my steak, and even as i raised my first forkfull to my mouth i was asked how it was. i had a drink later in the bar and one of the waiters appeared next to me after 10 minutes just to be check i had liked my food! after i walked around the corner to gypsys and there was a few people there it was not exactly like friday and after a couple i took a taxi to madhouse. it was a bit quieter than sunday but my 'date' from last night was there and was very keen. sweet though she was i did not want a repeat. i made that clear and she was ok with that. i actually really liked her friend (who i had first linked eyes with on thursday night) but i figured it might prove tricky plus she seemed to have a local draped over her. played the waiting game and made sure there was plenty of eye contact between us whilst having a hard time fending off unwanted advances. after an hour or so last nights girl asked me to join both of them and as the local guys had moved away i did. all went well as i finally told my fancy that i liked her and the other got the message too (with a smile).

then i nearly got into trouble. i was smooching with my girl by the speaker and i noticed her friend get pushed aggressivley by a local. combination of the drink and my western standards ensured i got angry at this. this guy was stood in the dance floor showing the finger to my girls friend who was sat down. i told him to shove his finger and apologise which, predictably only enflamed the situation. there was a bit of a standoff which ended with security taking him off the dance floor and to the area where the dancers come from. however on his way he struck out and caught my girls head. the owner got involved and, long story short, he was allowed to stay (but i noticed his girl fucked off). he was waiting for me outside the toilets once but i had calmed down and blanked him. on reflection i think i applied my own standards to a situation in another country, but i would probably do so again. took my girl back and she was fucking great. the type i would have seen again if it was not my last night. she was keen on bb but i did not go for this.

all in all this was my second time in kenya, and whilst i expected to try different places and explore more than last time i did not and have no regrets about that. i stayed at the same place (chester house) and that suited my needs down to the ground. i pretty much only went to gypsys, simmers, black diamond and madhouse and they always supplied what i was looking for. i ate better this time which was a relief. would still like to try mombassa if i get the chance but nairobi was overall fucking great.

Actually, if you would have done the simple math I presented, it would have been clearly evident that I only spent $3, 500USD ($9, 100 minus $5, 600) for my entire trip to Nairobi, Mombasa, and Kampala. I paid for all tourist outtings, dining out, hotel accommodations in Kampala and Mombasa, public transportation costs, phone recharge cards, internet access, satellite TV, groceries, gas; I also had to buy another phone since the one I had brought with me wouldn't work. So I got a dual sim Samsong for a bit over $100USD (I later found the same phone in Haiti for much less, but oh well my Haiti trip came well after my Kenya trip and I needed a phone that worked). I also bought some clothes for myself as well as some things for my family back home. I also misquoted the amount I paid for the water truck; that weekly cost was only 1000KSH, not 10K as I wrote earlier. Ditto for the propane in dropping a zero. When I look back at the blast I had over a month and a half, banging out 4 different ladies in two different countries (my temp gf and the pro in Kenya; my other temp gf and a pro in Kampala) , seeing a lot of sights, eating great food, and bringing back a few souvenirs for only $3, 500, I know I did quite well. Consider that I have spent $3, 500 on two occasions for just a weeks vacation in the Caribbean at two different all-inclusive resorts, banging just one lady! Now I could have done more during my first trip to Kenya, but I decided not to on that trip. However, I will have my work cut out for me in the near future. So no I didn't get played in Africa; I am the playa and I do it damn good. Just watch out for my Ghana post to see how I get down! Lastly, not everyone seeks to have the same experience. Some like the gf or non-pro scene and others can't seem to get enough of the p4p scene. Still others like a bit of variety. I don't try to emulate others on here. I just appreciate beautiful African women who have a freaky streak in them. I prefer to leave the drama alone.

[QUOTE=Norweez; 1192980]Sorry Jiggydus, but are you trying to convince us that:

Staying in different hotels right in the middle of the action, eating my choise of food at restaurants, bringing a different girl to my room everyday is breaking it even with having to put up with one girl for a whole month somewhere near the airport?

I'm not sure, but does 'playa' mean getting played or does in involve playing others? I would recommend that you spend more time reading this forum and learning from others experience. When I hook up on afro its for a freebie at the cost of spending time and effort chatting them up, or at least minimizing the khs spent. Not that I would hook up there and end up spending the same amount of money. $100 a night or more with my choice of ass, bed and food, why would anyone want to do that?

Anyway, to each his own but I'm pretty sure she's the one being called a 'playa' by all her friends being that she managed to make $5000 dollars a month out of a mzungu – that's most likely the business that she was hinting on getting you to support.

(25000 for gas?)

I mean you complained in the beginning of your posts that you blew almost $1000 dollars on different escorts in one week in the US, do you not realize that you've blown the same amount on just one girl in africa?

By the way, do you go by the same username on afro?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jiggydus;1193204].Lastly, not everyone seeks to have the same experience. Some like the gf or non-pro scene and others can't seem to get enough of the p4p scene. Still others like a bit of variety. I don't try to emulate others on here. I just appreciate beautiful African women who have a freaky streak in them. I prefer to leave the drama alone.[/QUOTE]Exactly my sentiment. Nice report and looks like you got exactly what you were looking for. I tend to think that the amount of money you spent for your trip is actually very reasonable. Don't let the penny pinchers on this forum spoil it for you!

J

From reading here I have decided to stay at Terminal a couple of days when I arrive to Nairobi late October. But I looked the place up in my guide book (Rough Guide to Kenya 2010 ed.) and much to my surprise it says "No guests after 7pm". That can't be true or can it? And what about Downtown Hotel next door?

Thanks a lot, I'll most likely have more questions before I go but will use the regular travel forums for more traditional topics.

[QUOTE=Jazz123; 1198555]From reading here I have decided to stay at Terminal a couple of days when I arrive to Nairobi late October. But I looked the place up in my guide book (Rough Guide to Kenya 2010 ed.) and much to my surprise it says "No guests after 7pm". That can't be true or can it? And what about Downtown Hotel next door?

Thanks a lot, I'll most likely have more questions before I go but will use the regular travel forums for more traditional topics.[/QUOTE]Book double room in terminal end verget all your thinkingproblems about visiters.

The hunters WITH SINLE ROOM. Only having right to have visiters till 7pm in evening

[QUOTE=Jazz123; 1198555]From reading here I have decided to stay at Terminal a couple of days when I arrive to Nairobi late October. But I looked the place up in my guide book (Rough Guide to Kenya 2010 ed.) and much to my surprise it says "No guests after 7pm". That can't be true or can it? And what about Downtown Hotel next door?

Thanks a lot, I'll most likely have more questions before I go but will use the regular travel forums for more traditional topics.[/QUOTE]I stayed at hotel central park, nice hotel with bar and no restriction on guests at all, I stayed there in the last week of Aug and infect I took 2 guests with me, obviously they charged KSH 700 per guest with breakfast, standard single room was KSH 2700 at that time, no hassle and very friendly and very near to action.

[QUOTE=Jazz123; 1198555]From reading here I have decided to stay at Terminal a couple of days when I arrive to Nairobi late October. But I looked the place up in my guide book (Rough Guide to Kenya 2010 ed.) and much to my surprise it says "No guests after 7pm". That can't be true or can it? And what about Downtown Hotel next door?

Thanks a lot, I'll most likely have more questions before I go but will use the regular travel forums for more traditional topics.[/QUOTE]Like Willyboy says, simply book a double and you will have no trouble. No matter where you choose to stay, as you will be having guests, get a double and forget the trouble.

Hi everyone,

During my last trip, I stayed at Hilton (because I like good standard hotel) but they overcharge me for the guest : about 75 USD!

Before it was not so expensive. Did someone know good hotel like that but more gf? (even if there is somethong to pay but not that huge amount like hilton)

Thanks for the help

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Hey guys, for the seasoned vets out there, just wondering if this scenario exists in Nairobi;

A hotel where street walkers frequent or are usually found outside strolling. The type of hotel where you could look at the window at night and see the talent walking by (street walker / prostitute talent, I'm not talking about semi pros that you have to chat up or invite to a cafe first) and then all you have to do is walk out and snatch one up for an hour.

A hotel / motel where prostitute presence is usually heavy.

Also, haven't seen much discussion over here about the various strip bars in nairobi, like libos for instance.

[QUOTE=Norweez; 1200571]Hey guys, for the seasoned vets out there, just wondering if this scenario exists in Nairobi;

A hotel where street walkers frequent or are usually found outside strolling. The type of hotel where you could look at the window at night and see the talent walking by (street walker / prostitute talent, I'm not talking about semi pros that you have to chat up or invite to a cafe first) and then all you have to do is walk out and snatch one up for an hour.

A hotel / motel where prostitute presence is usually heavy.

Also, haven't seen much discussion over here about the various strip bars in nairobi, like libos for instance.[/QUOTE]Almost every hotel in CBD. 680 hotel is next to simer the HQ of street walkers. Exactly what are you looking for? Embassy hotel, terminal hotel have street walkers outside. New stanely, continental etc. Etc. In Nairobi you can find a potential to wet your dick for 5 USD within 5 minutes after stepping out of a hotel.

[QUOTE=Norweez; 1200571]Hey guys, for the seasoned vets out there, just wondering if this scenario exists in Nairobi;

A hotel where street walkers frequent or are usually found outside strolling. The type of hotel where you could look at the window at night and see the talent walking by (street walker / prostitute talent, I'm not talking about semi pros that you have to chat up or invite to a cafe first) and then all you have to do is walk out and snatch one up for an hour.

A hotel / motel where prostitute presence is usually heavy.

Also, haven't seen much discussion over here about the various strip bars in nairobi, like libos for instance.[/QUOTE]I stayed at Chester House, which was OK, but overpriced, had 1970's fixtures and fittings, including the shiniest most dangerous parquet floor and rugs I've even seen.

Chester House is on Koinange Street, apparently one of the biggest street walker centres. However on the Saturday night I was there the police were doing numerous unfoturnately effective rounds locking up unaccompanied women, and street walkers were non existant. Didn't seem to be a street walker environment, not the centre at least.

I was only there one night so maybe I was unlucky.

It won't take long to pull one out of Simmers, or the Florida Nightclub both close to Koinange street.

[QUOTE=Ze Gato;1200589]Almost every hotel in CBD. 680 hotel is next to simer the HQ of street walkers.[/QUOTE]Great! Thanks for the info, Biffa as well, guess you were there at the wrong time. How girl friendly is the 680 then, can you take the girls straight up or does she have to register at the reception. I also read that there is a security guard on every floor, is that going to be a problem or can that actually be helpful?

I guess I am imagining a state side sort of scene, a street where you can see the street walkers strolling up and down the street or loitering around street corners waiting to be scooped up. Would that be Koinange st, or are there other streets notorious for having street walkers waiting to get picked up by mongers in cars.

For starters look up for legit gals on [url]www.nairobispas.co.ke.[/url] Try Silvah. You not be disapointed.

[QUOTE=Nuff Said;1186156]Time for me to pay Kenya a visit. Trying to get there in November, looking forward to your recent report from there, especially a safe place (hotel) to stay[/QUOTE]

Well you can try out SBJ (sabina Joy) Karomaindo. Along Moi Avenue. Some of the girls are not polished. But pussy is really cheap.

[QUOTE=Chotu; 1188774]Does anyone know where the day time action in Nairobi is other than simmers.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Norweez; 1200892]Great! Thanks for the info, Biffa as well, guess you were there at the wrong time. How girl friendly is the 680 then, can you take the girls straight up or does she have to register at the reception. I also read that there is a security guard on every floor, is that going to be a problem or can that actually be helpful?

I guess I am imagining a state side sort of scene, a street where you can see the street walkers strolling up and down the street or loitering around street corners waiting to be scooped up. Would that be Koinange st, or are there other streets notorious for having street walkers waiting to get picked up by mongers in cars.[/QUOTE]Mate, try anywhere but 680. You can do it but yes you will need to register her. Every floor has guards posted just outside the elevators where you will be stopped. Not worth the trouble. Just down the road are better options.

Hi,

Did someone try to book a girl on [url]www.blackcrush.com[/url]?

[QUOTE=Nguvu2;1203112]Mate, try anywhere but 680. You can do it but yes you will need to register her. Every floor has guards posted just outside the elevators where you will be stopped. Not worth the trouble. Just down the road are better options.[/QUOTE]That's very much true! However, keep in mind that these registrations are quite normal in most Kenyan hotels. Since it is for our own security I have no problem to register my visitors. But if I remember correctly one need not pay for a registered guest at 680 as long as she does not stay overnight! So, no additional (hotel) costs for ST it the afternoon. Can anybody confirm that?

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Nice reports Jiggydus. I went to Nairobi earlier this year and had a great experience. I was up for a total mongering experience, but on my first night I met an Ethiopian girl at that semi open air club a couple of blocks down from Madhouse (forget the name) and she was so awesome, I just kept going back for more- Had some of the best sex of my life. She organised a joint for each occasion, and it was really potent. I confess it took some of the intensity of dick sensation away, but in it's place I had stamina and staying power like never before and the most intense orgasms. We fucked for ages (well it felt like ages, but with smoke it might have only been 45 mins) , did every position we could think of, and she was totally open and into it. Kissing, touching and really getting off on it. Didn't do anal, but I'm going back again in a month, so hope to reconnect. From what you're saying about your GF experience there, I'm starting to wonder if they're all like that. If so, give me a Kenyan gf any day!

[QUOTE=Jiggydus;1193204]Actually, if you would have done the simple math I presented, it would have been clearly evident that I only spent $3, 500USD ($9, 100 minus $5, 600) for my entire trip to Nairobi, Mombasa, and Kampala. I paid for all tourist outtings, dining out, hotel accommodations in Kampala and Mombasa, public transportation costs, phone recharge cards, internet access, satellite TV, groceries, gas; I also had to buy another phone since the one I had brought with me wouldn't work. So I got a dual sim Samsong for a bit over $100USD (I later found the same phone in Haiti for much less, but oh well my Haiti trip came well after my Kenya trip and I needed a phone that worked). I also bought some clothes for myself as well as some things for my family back home. I also misquoted the amount I paid for the water truck; that weekly cost was only 1000KSH, not 10K as I wrote earlier. Ditto for the propane in dropping a zero. When I look back at the blast I had over a month and a half, banging out 4 different ladies in two different countries (my temp gf and the pro in Kenya; my other temp gf and a pro in Kampala) , seeing a lot of sights, eating great food, and bringing back a few souvenirs for only $3, 500, I know I did quite well. Consider that I have spent $3, 500 on two occasions for just a weeks vacation in the Caribbean at two different all-inclusive resorts, banging just one lady! Now I could have done more during my first trip to Kenya, but I decided not to on that trip. However, I will have my work cut out for me in the near future. So no I didn't get played in Africa; I am the playa and I do it damn good. Just watch out for my Ghana post to see how I get down! Lastly, not everyone seeks to have the same experience. Some like the gf or non-pro scene and others can't seem to get enough of the p4p scene. Still others like a bit of variety. I don't try to emulate others on here. I just appreciate beautiful African women who have a freaky streak in them. I prefer to leave the drama alone.[/QUOTE]

Yestoday. One granat in nairobi disco. More info, I have not this moment.

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1209768]Yestoday. One granat in nairobi disco. More info, I have not this moment.[/QUOTE]While I know that the lingua fraca of this forum is English, not all of us are entirely or even remotely fluent.

I suspect Willboy has many good things to share. Problem is his English is unintelligible most of the time, rendering posts like the one cited here indecipherable.

Will you give him permission to post in his native tongue (Dutch, if I am not mistaken) so that the rest of us may use the google translator or equivalent to make sense of what knowledge he has to impart?

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1209768]Yestoday. One granat in nairobi disco. More info, I have not this moment.[/QUOTE]Maybe: yesterday a bomb in a Nairobi's disco? I ask confermation.

[QUOTE=Loso69;1036879]I didn't really know what to expect before traveling to Kenya. I was pleasantly surprised. Kenyan girls were prettier than I imagined them to be. I rarely had trouble finding a girl to my liking.

In any African country...[/QUOTE]Hi.

I work in Kenya, I have read your messages about Somali girl name Falis, may I ask you give me more information about her please?

[QUOTE=Ioneto;1209943]Maybe: yesterday a bomb in a Nairobi's disco? I ask confermation.[/QUOTE]Here is a quote from AFP:

One person was killed and 29 were wounded in two grenade attacks in Nairobi on Monday, raising fears Shebab fighters were making good on their vow to retaliate for Kenya's week-old incursion in Somalia.

. .

The attack was not far from the Mwauras bar, a busy pub where the first blast occurred.

The US Department of State had repeatedly warned of possible terror attacks in Kenya for the past week or so. Evidently, they were right.

[QUOTE=Ioneto;1209943]Maybe: yesterday a bomb in a Nairobi's disco? I ask confermation.[/QUOTE]Probably correct since the original post said a "granat" and the news said a grenade.

Hi everyone.

I am planning to go to Nairobi in November for about a week or so. I will be very glad if someone could please provide me with the below information:

1) Which is the best hotel within the City Center Area in terms of quality, Service, safety, location and pricing according to you.

2) I have a great sexual appetite for Indian and Arabic women. Its a fantasy I love to live every time I get a chance. Can anyone here guide me to places where I might be able to find these kind of call girls or any Escort Services that may be able to provide me with what I am looking for? I have been told that there are a lot of Indian and Arabic call girl in Nairobi but no one has ever been able to give me more details. If anybody has any sort of contact details of any such girl, please pass them over and in return I will pass over all the contact details I attain from my rounds.

Apart from the above information, I will be very thankful if you could also provide me with names, numbers, contact numbers, places, warnings and all other information that you think will be important for me.

Regards.

HisXlnc

[QUOTE=HisXlnc;1210521]. I have a great sexual appetite for Indian and Arabic women .[/QUOTE]Well, then you might consider to travel to Mumbai or Riyadh instead? Just an idea!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Jazz123; 1198555]From reading here I have decided to stay at Terminal a couple of days when I arrive to Nairobi late October. But I looked the place up in my guide book (Rough Guide to Kenya 2010 ed.) and much to my surprise it says "No guests after 7pm". That can't be true or can it? And what about Downtown Hotel next door?

Thanks a lot, I'll most likely have more questions before I go but will use the regular travel forums for more traditional topics.[/QUOTE]The Terminal hotel is known for being a bare-bones backbacker hotel (notice I didn't say cheap). To repeat what has already been said here by others, go to the Central Park Hotel and be done with it. Hell, even the short time hotel (700shs) right around the corner from the Central park is better than the Terminal. BTW, keep this one in mind for the girls that don't have identification or are suspect for other reasons.

[QUOTE=Hesekiels; 1212021]Well, then you might consider to travel to Mumbai or Riyadh instead? Just an idea!

Cheers!

Hesekiels[/QUOTE]Hahaha! I wish I could go there but I unfortunately I am traveling to Nairobi. I asked as I was told that there are some escort agencies who have Indian and Arabic women. And yes. I would needs to go to Bombay or Riyadh. I can get both in Dubai. That as well at a very large variety.

Any information would be highly appreciated.

Cheers!

Decided to try out a few of the strip joints last week and Applebees was an experience to say the least. Went there on impulse around 2am last Thursday. Firstly the taxi struggled to find it and stopped to ask some dodgy people hanging around. He got out to speak to them, and one started circling the car staring at me which was freaking me out. Then another climbed in the back seat and the driver got back in to say the one in the back would show us the way. Well we were just around the corner but the guy with the directions insisted on coming along. Taxi pulled up about 20 feet passed the entrance and in the dark I couldn't find the right money so had to offer a 1000. He jumped out of the car to get me change and then the guy in the back started to ask for money for the directions. I probably should have given him some but felt stuborn so he got abit abusive. Finally the driver came back with my change and before I got out he warned me to go staight in and not to stop outside because the area was dangerous. I was in half a mind to just leave as I was abit scared but the adrenalin was pumping too so I jumped out and headed for the entrance.

I climbed the stairs and stopped at the top. There was a locked gate to my right and no sign of anyone else and again I was freaking. I heard a voice and finally saw a little grate in the wall to pay through. It was 300 or 400 and I handed over 500. Just then two guys had followed me up the stairs and were crowding behind me and touching my arm. A security guard appeared behind the gate and I asked him to let me in but he shook his head and smiled at me. I imagined being mugged right in front of his grinning face but thankfully my change and a ticket appeared from the grill and he unlocked the gate and let me in. I was crapping myself and just relieved to be in one piece still.

I went round the dimly lit corner to find a small stage with a couple of half naked girls dancing and a few people lounging about. Got a Tusker from a reluctant barmaid and grabbed a seat. Fairly quickly I was joined by a fowl breathed lady offering a dance. No idea what she looked like as her breath just killed me. She hassled for a beer but I refused and she left. This was repeated a couple of more times. If you haven't got the picture this place is just seediness personified and I was wandering what I was doing there even in my pissed up state. I have been to some dives but this was the lowest of the low.

Well the fourth girl who approached me had a reasonable pretty face and was not too fat and biggest bonus she did not smell so I took the bait and agreed to a dance. I knew I wanted to go VIP and I asked her how much a dance there was. 1000. Ok so firstly I went to the toilets and put all my other money in my shoe and came back with just the 1000 which I passed to a man and was taken into the VIP area via a curtain. This was gloomier still and there were benches back to back along the wall. As I stood there adjusting to the light I looked down at a man sat a few feet away and gradually realised that he had a curtain pulled over his lap which was going up and down! The girl reappeared and we found a bench and she asked what I wanted. Hand job, blow job or sex. It then transpired that the 1000 I had paid was to enter VIP area and whatever else I wanted was another 1000. Fuck it I was turned on so agreed on a BJ.

She took me to the far bench with the flimsiest curtain (there was a bench to my right with some bloke sat alone watching us) and I had to take off my shoe to give her the money which made her laugh and relaxed me too. I figured it would have to be one hell of a BJ for her to get my shoe off and pinch the rest without me knowing. She lowered my trousers and got right on with it and she was fucking fantastic. Then another fat girl took my hand and held it to her tits whilst pulling back the curtain to have a look, another one knelt down in front and tickled my balls and alternatively showed her pussy and ass. The extra two were demanding to be next. I was really having a great time and still was attempting to keep myself covered by the curtain. Then a couple came to the bench to my right and sat in the corner (next to the other guy) and she rode him cowboy. I think the curtain may have hid them from the other man but not from me. This was surreal. After a while he picked her up and lay her down pratically with her head on the observers lap and fucked her missionary.

Eventually my time was up and I decided that I had seen enough and was also worrying about getting out safely. I tried to enlist the security guard to go find me a taxi and gave him some money but it was the girl on the counter who found one for me finally. He came up to collect me without drama. I can't deny it was exhilerating and felt dangerous but is not for the fainthearted. If you feel the need to go learn from my mistakes as I feel this could have gone wrong easily. Correct money for everything so no messing around, not too late or too pissed, and preferably not alone.

I also tried Liddos wich was more classy and roomy but had no dance there. And the one in Florida (is it Pengo) which has the best looking girls. Again no dance as I figure that a grinding can be had for free elsewhere. Elsewhere nothing had changed. Madhouse and Simmers gets boring fending off the unwanted I find afer a while. I hung out at Havanna, Gypsys and Black Diamond which was good fun and productive. The weather was abit crap. Indeed there was a river literally one night outside Havannan, and security was strict with the grenades etc.

Jamie69, great report. Seems you had an outstanding experience at Applebees. Perhaps the danger heightened your experience.

On the taxi issue. Before getting in the taxi, insist that the driver knows the directions. Seems he may have known the other fellows.

Anyone met any girls from Afrogems living in Nairobi?

Like Babygal or Ruwen?

Stay safe!

[QUOTE=Exmodel; 1213778]Anyone met any girls from Afrogems living in Nairobi?

Like Babygal or Ruwen?

Stay safe![/QUOTE]Babygal is the second I have met from Afrogems but first that I had a good time with (the other one was in Ghana). She is a Kikuyu and quite nice. I am actually supposed to link up with her again this month, but I have such a bevy of a list to go through that I am not sure I want to be hassled with a money oriented chica (she is a bit money oriented-I will post experience later). But I would not tell any of the chicks about this site. I find the ones that do know about it are in prime position to game us mongers (met one such lady in Mombasa). Have fun but think with your big head and be safe.

Oh as for my experience with Babygal, she was game for a good time. She has oral skills but won't or didn't blow me til completion. But I banged her a couple of times the evening I met her. I am a bit selective now in the girls I will go down on myself since it is too easy to get sick if one has a "problem". I don't like the idea of my lips looking blistery so she has to pass the fresh scent, not overly sensitive, and no discharge test before I will go down.

This is for coal burner.

What is the name of the short time hotel around the corner form Ctral Park hotel. You said 700. Can't find it.

Is it on Latema Road

[QUOTE=Luvem and leave; 1215846]This is for coal burner.

What is the name of the short time hotel around the corner form Ctral Park hotel. You said 700. Can't find it.

Is it on Latema Road[/QUOTE]No, I believe it's Mfangano but not 100% sure. As you exit the Central park hotel, take a left and then a left again where the street dead ends. As soon as you turn the corner it will be on your left hand side. Don't remember the name, but you can't miss it.

[QUOTE=Exmodel; 1213778]Anyone met any girls from Afrogems living in Nairobi?

Like Babygal or Ruwen?

Stay safe![/QUOTE]Babygal contacted me on the site, but I haven't met her yet. Seems like another high-mileage pro so I'm not overly anxious to meet her. Ruwen is sweet and an all-around good person. Sexually speaking, probably more on the average side, but small, skinny and up for anything. Also from Nairobi, I'd recommend Sasha12 too. Similar to Ruwen (personality wise) but a tad bit better in the sack.

Afrogems seems to have a much greater presence in Uganda. I have loads of recommendations there.

[QUOTE=Coalburner69; 1215893]Babygal contacted me on the site, but I haven't met her yet. Seems like another high-mileage pro so I'm not overly anxious to meet her. Ruwen is sweet and an all-around good person. Sexually speaking, probably more on the average side, but small, skinny and up for anything. Also from Nairobi, I'd recommend Sasha12 too. Similar to Ruwen (personality wise) but a tad bit better in the sack.

Afrogems seems to have a much greater presence in Uganda. I have loads of recommendations there.[/QUOTE]Ruwen is a very good GFE. Spent a few days with her.

About Afrogems in Uganda I didn't see much I liked.

[QUOTE=Exmodel; 1217522]Ruwen is a very good GFE. Spent a few days with her.

About Afrogems in Uganda I didn't see much I liked.[/QUOTE]Glad to hear that you had a good time with Ruwen. I'd be surprised to hear otherwise. As for Afrogems in Uganda, most of their prime talent is 'phone contact only' which is accessible only if you're a paid member...

There is website in Nairobi for escort service. Name pandoragals. This agence ask 50 dollar for 1h with girl, or 200 dollar for full night.

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1220746]There is website in Nairobi for escort service. Name pandoragals. This agence ask 50 dollar for 1h with girl, or 200 dollar for full night.[/QUOTE]200 USD for full night? WTF?

For this money I could have a nice girl for a week.

[QUOTE=Dzikusek; 1220907]200 USD for full night? WTF?

For this money I could have a nice girl for a week.[/QUOTE]Even 100 USD is to match / week

[QUOTE=Dzikusek; 1220907]200 USD for full night? WTF?

For this money I could have a nice girl for a week.[/QUOTE]I agree. But I see this phenomenon as local and foreigners attempt to add layers of commercialization to the dating / mongering scene. Each layer gets a cut so the punter just ends up paying more usually for a less satisfying experience. I avoid all such setups and I have retired from the mongering scene in the US as a result.

[QUOTE=Jiggydus;1221020]I agree. But I see this phenomenon as local and foreigners attempt to add layers of commercialization to the dating / mongering scene. Each layer gets a cut so the punter just ends up paying more usually for a less satisfying experience. I avoid all such setups and I have retired from the mongering scene in the US as a result.[/QUOTE]The marine from France paying 30usd / 1h in casablance. It is not surpriced that girls asking more than 1000 USD / Weeck. This frech fishes making all prices very high. But after one visit, this guys never coming back. End one regulaer visiter is the SIGAR.

Hi all,

I'm newly arived in Nairobi. I've been before, but this time am at the Fairview with work colleagues. So bringing people back not really an option.

Are there any good recomendations for massage parlours here? Applebees sounded good. But not sure I'm brave enough!

Looking for options to find a good massage place. But not being able to see before hand is a worry?

I'm guessing Madhouse / Florida 2000 still the best place to pick up girls mid-week?

One suggestion check out.

[url]www.nairobispas.co.ke[/url]

Enjoy.

[QUOTE=DjDemoDjDemo; 1221507]Hi all,

I'm newly arived in Nairobi. I've been before, but this time am at the Fairview with work colleagues. So bringing people back not really an option.

Are there any good recomendations for massage parlours here? Applebees sounded good. But not sure I'm brave enough!

Looking for options to find a good massage place. But not being able to see before hand is a worry?

I'm guessing Madhouse / Florida 2000 still the best place to pick up girls mid-week?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OtienoV; 1222258]One suggestion check out.

[url]www.nairobispas.co.ke[/url]

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Many thanks. Will give it a try and report back.

In the past I've tended to pick people up at Mad-House or Black Diamond. The best was from Black Diamond, more like a girlfriend, and only wanted taxi money and drinks paid for, and kept in touch. I don't doubt that the primary attaction was because she saw a Mzungo walking ATM. But, it's always good when you click.

Most fun was probably from the Florida next to Pangos. Got two very lively girls, and (on reflection this is mad and probably risky) I was a little drunk and they recommended a nearby hotel. Which I think was $80 for the room.

[QUOTE=OtienoV; 1222258]One suggestion check out.

[url]www.nairobispas.co.ke[/url]

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Hi, I think most people on this site are in Africa for African looking (black) girls. I think thats why the majority of us are here in kenya, but you have white models posted all over your site. Love white women, but thats not why I buy a ticket and put up with kenya. Even if I did think those models were on offer. I could do that where I am and save ticket / hotel / food prices and the hassle that comes with it.

Another thing, is it just my browser or do you only have two pages on your site with no links that lead anywhere, and of course the paypal and credit card link. What exactly are we supposed to be paying for on this site? I mean its really tempting to click the link and put my credit card details on there but just not that tempting.

[QUOTE=DjDemoDjDemo; 1222378]Many thanks. Will give it a try and report back.

In the past I've tended to pick people up at Mad-House or Black Diamond. The best was from Black Diamond, more like a girlfriend, and only wanted taxi money and drinks paid for, and kept in touch. I don't doubt that the primary attaction was because she saw a Mzungo walking ATM. But, it's always good when you click.

Most fun was probably from the Florida next to Pangos. Got two very lively girls, and (on reflection this is mad and probably risky) I was a little drunk and they recommended a nearby hotel. Which I think was $80 for the room.[/QUOTE]More end more, the girls asking more money for service. I am not surpriced, if you look this text from this monger.

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1222581]More end more, the girls asking more money for service. I am not surpriced, if you look this text from this monger.[/QUOTE]I am a regular visitor. But on occasion I'm happy to pay higher if they are worth it. Not trying to drive up prices in Naiobi. But I'm also aware that for me $100 doesn't make a huge difference, but for them it does. Not saying I'm the Gates Foundation or anything!

[QUOTE=DjDemoDjDemo;1222701]I am a regular visitor. But on occasion I'm happy to pay higher if they are worth it. Not trying to drive up prices in Naiobi. But I'm also aware that for me $100 doesn't make a huge difference, but for them it does. Not saying I'm the Gates Foundation or anything![/QUOTE]Wow! That is crazy! I just completed 10 lovely days in Nairobi and I never paid over 25 USD (of course in Kenya Schillings) for "taxi fare, weave, etc." I will posts more of my stories as well as my observations. But right now, I am in pussy heaven and have no time to post. I am going to fuck myself to high heaven!

[QUOTE=DjDemoDjDemo;1222701]I am a regular visitor. But on occasion I'm happy to pay higher if they are worth it. Not trying to drive up prices in Naiobi. But I'm also aware that for me $100 doesn't make a huge difference, but for them it does. Not saying I'm the Gates Foundation or anything![/QUOTE]I can not stopping you to pay 1000 dollar / night, it is your money. Wrong bizzy. This all wath I will say.

[QUOTE=Jiggydus;1222932]Wow! That is crazy! I just completed 10 lovely days in Nairobi and I never paid over 25 USD (of course in Kenya Schillings) for "taxi fare, weave, etc." I will posts more of my stories as well as my observations. But right now, I am in pussy heaven and have no time to post. I am going to fuck myself to high heaven![/QUOTE]The price for pussy. Is the price wath the FOUL pay for this.

[QUOTE=DjDemoDjDemo;1222701]I am a regular visitor. But on occasion I'm happy to pay higher if they are worth it. Not trying to drive up prices in Naiobi. But I'm also aware that for me $100 doesn't make a huge difference, but for them it does. Not saying I'm the Gates Foundation or anything![/QUOTE]To pay more than monthsalery from hotelworker. I hope that you clain your on room, next visit. Evrybody go for prostitution.

[QUOTE=Jiggydus;1222932]Wow! That is crazy! I just completed 10 lovely days in Nairobi and I never paid over 25 USD (of course in Kenya Schillings) for "taxi fare, weave, etc." I will posts more of my stories as well as my observations. But right now, I am in pussy heaven and have no time to post. I am going to fuck myself to high heaven![/QUOTE]That's $100 for two girls including the temporary hotel costs. Not that bad!

Anyway, as soon as this damn rain stops I'm heading out. Pangos for a warmup, then probably BlackDiamond. Then if still empty hand-handed over to Madhouse.

Too much choice! And this is my last Friday.

[QUOTE=DjDemoDjDemo; 1222957]That's $100 for two girls including the temporary hotel costs. Not that bad!

Anyway, as soon as this damn rain stops I'm heading out. Pangos for a warmup, then probably BlackDiamond. Then if still empty hand-handed over to Madhouse.

Too much choice! And this is my last Friday.[/QUOTE]There is one name in Kenya for person like you. FRESH FISH or GREEN TOURIST

[QUOTE=DjDemoDjDemo; 1222957]That's $100 for two girls including the temporary hotel costs. Not that bad!

Anyway, as soon as this damn rain stops I'm heading out. Pangos for a warmup, then probably BlackDiamond. Then if still empty hand-handed over to Madhouse.

Too much choice! And this is my last Friday.[/QUOTE]I agree there is too much choice here in Nairobi and Kenya in general. That is the only reason I said it is crazy to spend a lot as I have even jammed a few chicks for nothing more than food (I think at most I spent 300 to 600ksh) , and one lady I will be jamming a bit later actually treated me to drinks (how refreshing, and she has one hell of an ass!). I think the Chinese dudes here are the real suckers, and that is what I observed at Madhouse one night. If you are Chinese, don't take it personal as some of my best friends from college were Japanese, Chinese, Korean and Indian (the dot type). Yeah I know I am not PC.

Trying to decide between these two for my first visit to Africa next month. Is it worth paying about $25 / night extra to be next door to Madhouse? At NOA, are taxis available 24/7 and how long does it take to get to the center considering the notorious Nairobi traffic? Does either place have in-room safes?

Recommendations welcome!

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5; 1223234]Trying to decide between these two for my first visit to Africa next month. Is it worth paying about $25 / night extra to be next door to Madhouse? At NOA, are taxis available 24/7 and how long does it take to get to the center considering the notorious Nairobi traffic? Does either place have in-room safes?

Recommendations welcome![/QUOTE]Chester house is in the middle of the aktion. 100 meter from florida. It cost around 100dollar / night. Nairobi taxi. 24 non stop. Nairobi traffic is like HELL. You can stay 1h without moving. Special Friday evening. Traffic to airport can by in 25 minuts it night. But also 2h in toptraffic thime.

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5; 1223234]Trying to decide between these two for my first visit to Africa next month. Is it worth paying about $25 / night extra to be next door to Madhouse? At NOA, are taxis available 24/7 and how long does it take to get to the center considering the notorious Nairobi traffic? Does either place have in-room safes?

Recommendations welcome![/QUOTE]Chester House does have a small safe in the wardrobe but you need to bring your own padlock (a small one).

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5; 1223234]Trying to decide between these two for my first visit to Africa next month. Is it worth paying about $25 / night extra to be next door to Madhouse? At NOA, are taxis available 24/7 and how long does it take to get to the center considering the notorious Nairobi traffic? Does either place have in-room safes?

Recommendations welcome![/QUOTE]I have been staying at Chester House for quite a few years now with no complaints. Anything you can possibly need is within walking distance no need for taxi. The rooms are always nice and clean, good internet and the staff is always helpful. Never had a problem bringing a lady in with me as long as she had an I'd. They have several different rooms types I normally get the deluxe and I think its around $100 per night.

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1222962]There is one name in Kenya for person like you. FRESH FISH or GREEN TOURIST[/QUOTE]If you say so!

I blame being on per diems. Ultimately as long as I feel I'm getting value for money, I'm happy.

[QUOTE=Jiggydus;1222982]I agree there is too much choice here in Nairobi and Kenya in general. That is the only reason I said it is crazy to spend a lot as I have even jammed a few chicks for nothing more than food (I think at most I spent 300 to 600ksh) , and one lady I will be jamming a bit later actually treated me to drinks (how refreshing, and she has one hell of an ass!). I think the Chinese dudes here are the real suckers, and that is what I observed at Madhouse one night. If you are Chinese, don't take it personal as some of my best friends from college were Japanese, Chinese, Korean and Indian (the dot type). Yeah I know I am not PC.[/QUOTE]I prefer to find someone I get on with, and then it's really just the cost of drinks. And maybe the cab in the morning.

The most I ever paid was someone I picked up in the bar from the Serena hotel. But when they look like (and are dressed like) a super model, with nice teeth, nice hair, nice smelling. And great in bed. Who cares?

My fear with the cheap ones is that they are low cost but high volume. Which I feel is a more risky session.

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[QUOTE=Luvem and leave; 1215846]This is for coal burner.

What is the name of the short time hotel around the corner form Ctral Park hotel. You said 700. Can't find it.

Is it on Latema Road[/QUOTE]Just confirming that it's on Mfangano. The name is Hotel Orchard; next to Tuskys. BTW, there are many of these 'kind' of hotels in the immediate area, but this one just happened to be convenient to the Central park where I was staying. Looks like hell outside, but much better inside than say the likes of the Terminal Hotel.

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5; 1223234]Trying to decide between these two for my first visit to Africa next month. Is it worth paying about $25 / night extra to be next door to Madhouse? At NOA, are taxis available 24/7 and how long does it take to get to the center considering the notorious Nairobi traffic? Does either place have in-room safes?

Recommendations welcome![/QUOTE]I spent one week at N. O. A. Last year. Taxi are available 24 hours. Just ask the security guy to order one for you (BTW, they can also order a girl / girls if you do not want to move your a.). However, it can take half an hour or longer to the city centre (depends on traffic). In general, N. O. A. Is a nice place and I enjoyed my stay there. There are safes in the bedrooms. Important for me: it's quite at night while Chester House could be loud as hell all the night.

There are many apartments options now in Nairobi. Just google "Nairobi apartments".

Have fun

Hi gents,

I've done a quick RTFF but know luck.

Does anyone have experience staying at the Hotel Kipepeo?

It looks ok on the website, reasonable price for a double and quite central.

Any pros / cons?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Anzac; 1224470]Hi gents,

I've done a quick RTFF but know luck.

Does anyone have experience staying at the Hotel Kipepeo?

It looks ok on the website, reasonable price for a double and quite central.

Any pros / cons?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Someone has suggested that the location of this hotel on River road is a dangerous area. Does this only apply to after dark or is dangerous at all times?

And what is dangerous? I've stayed in the dodgiest areas of Manila, Phnom Penh, BKK, Pattaya etc without concern. Any comments on how dangerous. Real or percieved Nairobi is compared to other cities mentioned. Bottom line . Is it that bad out by River Road, that the extra 40bucks to stay in the CBD is worth it?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Anzac; 1224514]Someone has suggested that the location of this hotel on River road is a dangerous area. Does this only apply to after dark or is dangerous at all times?

And what is dangerous? I've stayed in the dodgiest areas of Manila, Phnom Penh, BKK, Pattaya etc without concern. Any comments on how dangerous. Real or percieved Nairobi is compared to other cities mentioned. Bottom line. Is it that bad out by River Road, that the extra 40bucks to stay in the CBD is worth it?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Wath is DANGEROUS? That you are in wrong thiming in the wrong places. One aircraft is in chrash, you was in the wrong aircraft in the wrong thime.

[QUOTE=Anzac; 1224514]Someone has suggested that the location of this hotel on River road is a dangerous area. Does this only apply to after dark or is dangerous at all times?

And what is dangerous? I've stayed in the dodgiest areas of Manila, Phnom Penh, BKK, Pattaya etc without concern. Any comments on how dangerous. Real or percieved Nairobi is compared to other cities mentioned. Bottom line. Is it that bad out by River Road, that the extra 40bucks to stay in the CBD is worth it?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]I have gone by many of the hotels in the CBD, but have only stayed at Hotel Central Park and Green Court Hotel. Both are on the other side of the track so to speak which is Tom Mboya and very close to matatu stands (noisy). If staying at a hotel that is somewhat quiet at night, then Kipepeo, Intercontinental, Hilton, Stanley, as well as WestBreezes Hotels would fit the bill. Chester and Terminal are close to Madhouse, but I was able to walk to all points of interest in CBD from both Green Court Hotel and Central Park Hotel day and night. I am an American black man so I don't stick out at night in the dodgier parts of town, but one would have no problem getting around CBD by taxi at night. Green Court Hotel daily rate is 1800KSH with breakfast included (better quality than Hotel Central Park and even some 4 star hotels I have stayed in Ghana!). No charge for overnight guests but you will be charged 300KSH for any additional breakfast for your guest. Hotel Central Park daily rate is now 2800KSH and overnight guest charge is an additional 700KSH. Breakfast is included with no additional charge for guest. The Hotel Central Park looks better in the lobby than Green Court (looks very much like a notel) , but Green Court rooms have mosquito nets and the hot water works better. Additionally, there is no parking lot for either of these hotels, but I experienced no problems being dropped off at either nor being picked up at either hotel. My assessment is that although these hotels are not Western standard hotels, they do feature clean, firm queen or full size beds, hot running water for showers (on demand electric heaters) , breakfast included, and security. The main reason they are not Western standard hotels is neither feature A / C or even ceiling fans which is no problem in November and December in Nairobi, but would be a problem come January.

Is it dangerous in CDB? Well I went out most nights and usually always walked from hotel to F2, Madhouse, Simmers, Club Spree and back and I never encountered any problems. I even toyed around with chatting up some streetwalkers but nothing came of that. Mostly settled on hooking up with Afro and AFF chicks as well as chatting up attractive ladies on the street in the daytime. Will post trip report later as I am knee deep in good pussy right now.

[QUOTE=Jiggydus;1224637]Is it dangerous in CDB? Well I went out most nights and usually always walked from hotel to F2, Madhouse, Simmers, Club Spree and back and I never encountered any problems. I even toyed around with chatting up some streetwalkers but nothing came of that. Mostly settled on hooking up with Afro and AFF chicks as well as chatting up attractive ladies on the street in the daytime. Will post trip report later as I am knee deep in good pussy right now.[/QUOTE]And I am white.

[QUOTE=Jiggydus; 1224637]I have gone by many of the hotels in the CBD, but have only stayed at Hotel Central Park and Green Court Hotel. Both are on the other side of the track so to speak which is Tom Mboya and very close to matatu stands (noisy). If staying at a hotel that is somewhat quiet at night, then Kipepeo, Intercontinental, Hilton, Stanley, as well as WestBreezes Hotels would fit the bill. Chester and Terminal are close to Madhouse, but I was able to walk to all points of interest in CBD from both Green Court Hotel and Central Park Hotel day and night. I am an American black man so I don't stick out at night in the dodgier parts of town, but one would have no problem getting around CBD by taxi at night. Green Court Hotel daily rate is 1800KSH with breakfast included (better quality than Hotel Central Park and even some 4 star hotels I have stayed in Ghana!). No charge for overnight guests but you will be charged 300KSH for any additional breakfast for your guest. Hotel Central Park daily rate is now 2800KSH and overnight guest charge is an additional 700KSH. Breakfast is included with no additional charge for guest. The Hotel Central Park looks better in the lobby than Green Court (looks very much like a notel) , but Green Court rooms have mosquito nets and the hot water works better. Additionally, there is no parking lot for either of these hotels, but I experienced no problems being dropped off at either nor being picked up at either hotel. My assessment is that although these hotels are not Western standard hotels, they do feature clean, firm queen or full size beds, hot running water for showers (on demand electric heaters) , breakfast included, and security. The main reason they are not Western standard hotels is neither feature A / C or even ceiling fans which is no problem in November and December in Nairobi, but would be a problem come January.

Is it dangerous in CDB? Well I went out most nights and usually always walked from hotel to F2, Madhouse, Simmers, Club Spree and back and I never encountered any problems. I even toyed around with chatting up some streetwalkers but nothing came of that. Mostly settled on hooking up with Afro and AFF chicks as well as chatting up attractive ladies on the street in the daytime. Will post trip report later as I am knee deep in good pussy right now.[/QUOTE]I slightly disagree on the hotels. If memory serves me right, the Green Court Hotel is on Latema road. This area is far more dicey than Ronald Ngala / Sheikh Karume Road where the Central Park is located. Security is much better at the Central Park and the clientele is a tad more professional. From a security perspective, this does indeed make a difference. Overall, I find the Central Park to be more modern and service oriented than the Green Court. I don't eat breakfast so I can't comment on that, but have had dinner at both hotels. I don't recommend either. On a factual note, the Central Park DOES have A / C but not in all rooms. They also have fridges (in all rooms) which the Green Court doesn't.

With respect to general safety in the CBD, I'm white and walk everywhere at all hours of the night. I'm still alive, but then again, I'm not that sweet.

[QUOTE=Anzac; 1224514]Someone has suggested that the location of this hotel on River road is a dangerous area. Does this only apply to after dark or is dangerous at all times?

And what is dangerous? I've stayed in the dodgiest areas of Manila, Phnom Penh, BKK, Pattaya etc without concern.[/QUOTE]I would discourage everybody to visit River Road Area during night or day! And in the dark always take a taxi, even for a short distance. In any part of Nairobi! Better play safe!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Hesekiels; 1225022]I would discourage everybody to visit River Road Area during night or day! And in the dark always take a taxi, even for a short distance. In any part of Nairobi! Better play safe!

Cheers!

Hesekiels[/QUOTE]I think as long as someone has "street sense" and good situational awareness, they should be fine without being paranoid. By that I mean that I never come in close vicinity to any group of guys at night and always keep a 360 degree awareness. I walk closer to the roadway and away from any alleys and inset store fronts. I have not experienced any problems walking along Kenyatta, Tom Mboya, Moi Ave, Latema Road, any of the side streets between Hotel Green Court and Central Park Hotel, or the area around the Nukamatt, Madhouse, etc. The only annoyances are the women who come begging as you pass Simmers, but I never reach into my pocket to give them anything since I know that can set me up for getting mugged later by anyone watching. Basically, I make myself a hard target regardless of whether I take a taxi (only when in company of a female) or when walking. I do happen to know self-defense techniques but prefer to never have to use them (only had to do so once in Dakar, Senegal). Right now I am in Mombasa and I walk among the locals on the back dirt road leading to the main drag. Never have encountered any problems. As for the hotels, I guess I must have gotten one of the not so good rooms at Hotel Central Park. Sure the clientele is different as I believe Kenyan businesspeople and other organizations utilize Hotel Central Park whereas everyday Kenyans seem to frequent Green Court Hotel. As far as security goes, I prefer the open space in front of Green Court over the narrow street in front of Central Park (just google Oklahoma City bombing to know what I am talking about; plus the matatu drivers are less of a threat in that regard). Also, whenever I walk, I walk briskly and with purpose so even the few people that call out "my friend" usually have little opportunity to catch up to me unless they want to run after me (none have here in Kenya). What this means is that instead of blowing unnecessary KSH on taxi fare, I can divert it to food, drinks, and fun! Got to love Kenya! I know I do.

[QUOTE=Anzac; 1224514]Is it that bad out by River Road, that the extra 40bucks to stay in the CBD is worth it?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]You haven't told us the price of this hotel Anzac, anyone else with info on this hotel would be appreciated. I looked at their website, it seems fine but no price list. Any info on the surrounding talent such as street walkers would be great.

Looking forward to your report jiddydus!

[QUOTE=Norweez; 1225189]You haven't told us the price of this hotel Anzac, anyone else with info on this hotel would be appreciated. I looked at their website, it seems fine but no price list. Any info on the surrounding talent such as street walkers would be great.

Looking forward to your report jiddydus![/QUOTE]The latest price info I have for Kipepeo is 4, 000ksh for a double room which dates back to several months ago. Bear in mind that inflation has risen over the past several months and certain hotels have tacked on an additional surcharge like Kahama in Bamburi / Mombasa. Not sure if Kipepeo has done the same. Additionally, others have slightly raised their rate, so the case could be either of these two scenarios.

[QUOTE=Norweez; 1225189]You haven't told us the price of this hotel Anzac, anyone else with info on this hotel would be appreciated. I looked at their website, it seems fine but no price list. Any info on the surrounding talent such as street walkers would be great.

Looking forward to your report jiddydus![/QUOTE]Thanks guys for replying and your input. Norweez, Kipepeo quoted me 65USD per night for a double room.

There is a $40 difference between there and a hotel right in the middle of the CBD ie. Chester house.

All things considered, I think I will pay the extra on this my first trip and stay in the central location where everything.

I want is within short walking distance.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Jiggydus;1225107]. instead of blowing unnecessary KSH on taxi fare, I can divert it to food, drinks, and fun! .[/QUOTE]Indeed an interesting point of view! However, I wish you all the best and particularly good luck!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

As of the Mombasa thread.

I have read the whole page and found no information as to the prices of girls or where to find them.

[QUOTE=James02; 1229356]As of the Mombasa thread.

I have read the whole page and found no information as to the prices of girls or where to find them.[/QUOTE]Maby you look in wrong forum. Or you think. With this text. I must not look in forum. Joke of the day.

[QUOTE=James02; 1229356]As of the Mombasa thread.

I have read the whole page and found no information as to the prices of girls or where to find them.[/QUOTE]IF you read the forum, there is lot of information about prices and location. Kenya is best destinantion to find P4P in East Africa.

[QUOTE=James02; 1229356]As of the Mombasa thread.

I have read the whole page and found no information as to the prices of girls or where to find them.[/QUOTE]"whole page". And what about the other 93?

[QUOTE=James02; 1229356]As of the Mombasa thread.

I have read the whole page and found no information as to the prices of girls or where to find them.[/QUOTE]I shall assume that English is not your first language and that reading many posts is difficult.

The minimum most posters here regard as acceptable for short time: between 500-1000.

The minimum for long time: 1000-1500.

I had many for free and never had a complaint when I offered 1000. (This is 25 + encounters between Nairobi and Mombasa).

The only girl I did LT with was free. We seemed to really enjoy each others' company.

[QUOTE=WombToTomb; 1229798]I shall assume that English is not your first language and that reading many posts is difficult.

The minimum most posters here regard as acceptable for short time: between 500-1000.

The minimum for long time: 1000-1500.

I had many for free and never had a complaint when I offered 1000. (This is 25 + encounters between Nairobi and Mombasa).

The only girl I did LT with was free. We seemed to really enjoy each others' company.[/QUOTE]Thanks.

That sound pritty cheap for priceing and much cheaper then the likes of Thiland and batam in indonisia.

I read somewhere ells on the net that you don't find these girls in bars you find them on the beaches, is this correct?

And which do you think is best Mombasa or Nairobi.

Thanks.

James02

[QUOTE=James02; 1230208]Thanks.

That sound pritty cheap for priceing and much cheaper then the likes of Thiland and batam in indonisia.

I read somewhere ells on the net that you don't find these girls in bars you find them on the beaches, is this correct?

And which do you think is best Mombasa or Nairobi.

Thanks.

James02[/QUOTE]I was just recently in Nairobi. Met a European guy who was visiting from Mombasa where he lived. He was bragging to me about what he was paying in Mombasa. At the end of the day in Nairobi, he was paying 2k ST for fat ugly chicks. Don't be surprised that girls at places like Simmers and Madhouse are quoting in USD now. I walked away from some chick at madhouse who wanted 150usd. Given the fact that she let me walk away means she's getting it.

[QUOTE=James02; 1230208]Thanks.

That sound pritty cheap for priceing and much cheaper then the likes of Thiland and batam in indonisia.

I read somewhere ells on the net that you don't find these girls in bars you find them on the beaches, is this correct?

And which do you think is best Mombasa or Nairobi.

Thanks.

James02[/QUOTE]In Nairobi there is no beach. But you can find girls everywhere. In night you can find girls for P4P in the clubs in westland, town and other places. In westland you can also pick non pro girls. In westland they are 4 to 5 clubs on walking distance and the area is safe. In town you should always go in taxis.

[QUOTE=Coalburner69; 1230300]I was just recently in Nairobi. Met a European guy who was visiting from Mombasa where he lived. He was bragging to me about what he was paying in Mombasa. At the end of the day in Nairobi, he was paying 2k ST for fat ugly chicks. Don't be surprised that girls at places like Simmers and Madhouse are quoting in USD now. I walked away from some chick at madhouse who wanted 150usd. Given the fact that she let me walk away means she's getting it.[/QUOTE]So are you saying the beach resort Mombasa is cheaper then the town of Nairobi?

When you where in Nairobi did you find any better deals then 150 USD.

[QUOTE=Chotu;1230349]In Nairobi there is no beach. But you can find girls everywhere. In night you can find girls for P4P in the clubs in westland, town and other places. In westland you can also pick non pro girls. In westland they are 4 to 5 clubs on walking distance and the area is safe. In town you should always go in taxis.[/QUOTE]In westlands where do you pick the non pros up from.

When you say non pross do you mena students after some extra cash? Do you find them on the streets? And how old are these girls?

The clubs in westlands how much do they charge for ST and LT and are there any young ones?

Where is Town?

[QUOTE=WombToTomb; 1229798]I shall assume that English is not your first language and that reading many posts is difficult.

The minimum most posters here regard as acceptable for short time: between 500-1000.

The minimum for long time: 1000-1500.

I had many for free and never had a complaint when I offered 1000. (This is 25 + encounters between Nairobi and Mombasa).

The only girl I did LT with was free. We seemed to really enjoy each others' company.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Coalburner69;1230300]I was just recently in Nairobi. Met a European guy who was visiting from Mombasa where he lived. He was bragging to me about what he was paying in Mombasa. At the end of the day in Nairobi, he was paying 2k ST for fat ugly chicks. Don't be surprised that girls at places like Simmers and Madhouse are quoting in USD now. I walked away from some chick at madhouse who wanted 150usd. Given the fact that she let me walk away means she's getting it.[/QUOTE]What a difference in price you two have been paying!

[QUOTE=James02;1230916]What a difference in price you two have been paying![/QUOTE]You need to re-read my post again. The day that I pay a Kenyan hooker $150. 00 USD is the day they find a gold nugget up your ass. In other words, it aint going to happen. There is no relation to what some hooker throws out there in terms of price and what I end up paying.

Other crazy prices quoted: $100 USD for 1 hr (girl on Tagged).5k shs for a 'massage' (girl on afrogems).4k shs for a massage plus extras (walk-in massage establishment) and so on.

Bottom line is that you'll be hard pressed to find ST for less than 2k in Nairobi.

[QUOTE=James02; 1230900]So are you saying the beach resort Mombasa is cheaper then the town of Nairobi?

When you where in Nairobi did you find any better deals then 150 USD.

In westlands where do you pick the non pros up from.

When you say non pross do you mena students after some extra cash? Do you find them on the streets? And how old are these girls?

The clubs in westlands how much do they charge for ST and LT and are there any young ones?

Where is Town?[/QUOTE]I picked up non pro in Gypsy. She was about 25 and worked in Mombassa, was with her sister who she was visiting.

[QUOTE=James02; 1230900]So are you saying the beach resort Mombasa is cheaper then the town of Nairobi?

When you where in Nairobi did you find any better deals then 150 USD.

In westlands where do you pick the non pros up from.

When you say non pross do you mena students after some extra cash? Do you find them on the streets? And how old are these girls?

The clubs in westlands how much do they charge for ST and LT and are there any young ones?

Where is Town?[/QUOTE]No one pay 150 USD. I have never pay more than 20USD. First mombasa is cheaper than Nairobi in every aspect. In Nairobi clubs that are in downtown area I pay 1000-1300 for ST and 1500-2000 for LT. In westland is little expensive. But in westland you can pick up lots of non pro depends on your abilities.

Speaking of Westlands, just wondering if anyone had any reports or info on the following:

Gypsey's Bar.

Red Tape.

Black Diamond.

Rezaurous.

Street walkers

And ofcourse the girl friendliness of surrounding hotels.

Seems like a good place to stay for mongering, four clubs in the same area according to wikimapia.

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Jamie69;1230971]I picked up non pro in Gypsy. She was about 25 and worked in Mombassa, was with her sister who she was visiting.[/QUOTE]You picked up a non pro in Gypsy or you picked up a non pro gypsy?

[QUOTE=Coalburner69;1230963]Bottom line is that you'll be hard pressed to find ST for less than 2k in Nairobi.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=WombToTomb; 1229798]The minimum most posters here regard as acceptable for short time: between 500-1000.

The minimum for long time: 1000-1500.[/QUOTE]Over to you WombToTom.

[QUOTE=Chotu;1231070]In Nairobi clubs that are in downtown area I pay 1000-1300 for ST and 1500-2000 for LT. In westland is little expensive. But in westland you can pick up lots of non pro depends on your abilities.[/QUOTE]Down Town.

Ow but before it was called Town!

Where is Downtown.

Its not on google map?

Can you pick up virgins for a litlte extra dollar?

[QUOTE=Norweez; 1231157]Speaking of Westlands, just wondering if anyone had any reports or info on the following:

Gypsey's Bar.

Red Tape.

Black Diamond.

Rezaurous.

Street walkers

And ofcourse the girl friendliness of surrounding hotels.

Seems like a good place to stay for mongering, four clubs in the same area according to wikimapia.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Gypsey's Bar is a good hanging out place, food and drinks are expesive. Black diamond has lot of potential for P4P. Redtape and Rezaurous are more for picking up non pro.

[QUOTE=Chotu;1231070]No one pay 150 USD. I have never pay more than 20USD. First mombasa is cheaper than Nairobi in every aspect. In Nairobi clubs that are in downtown area I pay 1000-1300 for ST and 1500-2000 for LT. In westland is little expensive. But in westland you can pick up lots of non pro depends on your abilities.[/QUOTE]You must have very low standards. Mombasa cheaper than Nairobi during the holidays? Hardly.

[QUOTE=Coalburner69;1231659]You must have very low standards. Mombasa cheaper than Nairobi during the holidays? Hardly.[/QUOTE]The prices are, like the foul pay. It is possibel 1000ksh / 1h end 2000ksh LT. But it becaim more end more difficult.

[QUOTE=Chotu;1231339]Gypsey's Bar is a good hanging out place, food and drinks are expesive. Black diamond has lot of potential for P4P. Redtape and Rezaurous are more for picking up non pro.[/QUOTE]Thanks, black diamond it is then, got little patience for the formalities of non-pros, just like to take a girl and get her to get on with it.

Any info about good green hotels in that area?

[QUOTE=Coalburner69;1231659]You must have very low standards. Mombasa cheaper than Nairobi during the holidays? Hardly.[/QUOTE]We were not talking about holidays; generally the girls are cheaper in Mombasa than Nairobi. Willyboy is right it's hard to get those prices anymore. What I do is to take the numbers and call during day time. Last time I was there in September and it is possible that prices has gone up.

I went to F2, after not having been there for about 5 years. You have every kind of woman there however there are some beautiful college women there. For about $100 (including the room) I took two of them with a taxi to a decent hotel. We had a really nice evening together.

[QUOTE=Chotu;1232090]We were not talking about holidays; generally the girls are cheaper in Mombasa than Nairobi. Willyboy is right it's hard to get those prices anymore. What I do is to take the numbers and call during day time. Last time I was there in September and it is possible that prices has gone up.[/QUOTE]I usually stay at the Crowne Plazza in Nairobi and since I never have the opportunity to go scouting downtown, I usually pick up a girls from the hotel bar. I usually end up with 100 USD for the night (+ 50 USD for the extra guest). I understand that type of price is very exprensive but I guess this is due to the fact that there is few choice in this hotel and the 5 stars do not help neither. What do you think?

[QUOTE=Sam Suffit;1232640]I usually stay at the Crowne Plazza in Nairobi and since I never have the opportunity to go scouting downtown, I usually pick up a girls from the hotel bar. I usually end up with 100 USD for the night (+ 50 USD for the extra guest). I understand that type of price is very exprensive but I guess this is due to the fact that there is few choice in this hotel and the 5 stars do not help neither. What do you think?[/QUOTE]I feel sick when I paid sex in kenya prices down. Well it's not my money. When does the tourist the prices of goods and services really know. The Kenya people laugh themselves to death with such stupid people. And it drives the price but for others. Once again a diameter less than 100 euros wage bedraagd / Mon if you already work!

[QUOTE=Sam Suffit;1232640]I usually stay at the Crowne Plazza in Nairobi and since I never have the opportunity to go scouting downtown, I usually pick up a girls from the hotel bar. I usually end up with 100 USD for the night (+ 50 USD for the extra guest). I understand that type of price is very exprensive but I guess this is due to the fact that there is few choice in this hotel and the 5 stars do not help neither. What do you think?[/QUOTE]Nairobi is third world not Europe or Us or England so pay third world prices 2500 or 3000 Kes no more

[QUOTE=Mariomarengo;1232666]Nairobi is third world not Europe or Us or England so pay third world prices 2500 or 3000 Kes no more[/QUOTE]He said he didn't want to leave the Crown Plaza. He will not get a girl for Ksh 2500 from the bar there. He wouldn't if it would be 5th world. Its his choice to stay there and not leave the place.

[QUOTE=Hermescali;1233049]He said he didn't want to leave the Crown Plaza. He will not get a girl for Ksh 2500 from the bar there. He wouldn't if it would be 5th world. Its his choice to stay there and not leave the place.[/QUOTE]$150 is a little high for picking up a chick in a 5 star (adding in the $50 extra for guest charge). But not crazy high. I find it funny how guys really ***** about spending more than about the equivalent $30 for getting laid.

Stop being cheap ass bitches. You want a cheap **** then river road beckons. If you want something a little nicer than pay for it. I usually pay about 4-5K for some premium pussy. I certainly don't see this as being outrageous. And I live in Nairobi, and I know I could get cheaper on the order of 2-3 but generally it is skanky and I like a higher grade of chick. Difference between takeout and a five course dinner, both fill you up but one leaves you with a nicer experience afterwards.

Early impressions of nairobi so far, for someone who has never been, regulars already know it:

Arrived early Thursday on Kenya airways flight from BKK. Kenya airways seats possibly the smallest I have ever.

Had, but the 8. 5 hour flight was ok and service pretty good. Through immigration in about 5 minutes and bag was first on carousel,

Too easy. Within 20 minutes of landing I had my bag. Heading out the doors I gave my customs declaration to a cute girl sitting behind a desk. Her and her friends giggled and then I realised they were the taxi service chicks. Paid 1700KSH for the yellow taxi into the CBD, may have overpaid but the girl was very cute. 200 KSH who cares. Checked into Chester House no problems, very large room overlooking the CBD. From my balcony I can actually watch the honeys going into Madhouse on Koinage St. Surprised that the room has no aircon and no fan, but the nights are cool compared to Bangkok. Good wifi internet included.

Anyhow, had a walk around the town. Sat down in Simmers for a very expensive Heineken around lunch time. The place is ugly and hot and the waitress had major attitude, won't be going back there in a hurry even if it was early when I went. A few older girls sitting around, nothing decent. Had lunch and dinner at the Java House coffee shop / restaurant just up the road from CH, in a side street off Koinage just after the markets. The coffee is good and the meals fresh and tasty. Probably expensive for nairobi? But for 700KSH had a good meal everytime. This place is packed everyday and plenty of young girls hanging out, I'm sure could be chatted up if I could be bothered LOL.

There is a Nakumatt store in the mall in Moktar Daddah street, near the Terminal Hotel I think. Its good for picking up supplies and has alcohol. Picked up a bottle of Gin and some coke for a few on the balcony before heading out. The city has a good vibe at night, I like it so far. I had no problems walking alone day or night, even though as a 6'4 white guy I stick out like dogs balls. If anyone wants to keep fit when here in Nairobi (aside from horizontal bed dancing) there is a small gym just around the corner from CH on Koinage St, Premier Fitness. Looked ok. 600KSH for casual visit. Avoid the Fiesta restaurant on 3rd floor of Chester House. Terrible food IMO.

Thursday night in Madhouse started very quiet. I got there too early (10pm) and was the only guy there. Chatted to the first girl who came over and bought her a drink just for the conversation, guess I was bored LOL. The cuties started rolling in and this one with me wasnt my type, so I excused myself and had a walk around. On my way back in, this cutie latches on to me and follows me to 3rd floor. Shit! I had my eye on this tall one with huge tits and killer body dancing slow on the dancefloor alone. She was hot and she knew it. Regulars to Madhouse would know this girl, a few foreign guys chatted to her like they knew her but obviously her asking price was high. Anyhow, this clingon was backing up to me as I'm standing at the bar. She grabs my hand with a smile on her face and guides it to her arse. She's wearing a skirt, and as my hand makes its way down her arse to her pusssy, hmmm no knickers. A wet juicy pussy with no panties. Excellent. Had a little play and figured she deserved a drink, especially after she sucked my two fingers dry that had just been up her pussy LOL not shy this one. She undid my jeans zipper and wanted to get my dick out at the bar, pissed as I was I stopped her, that going a bit far I thought, although have done many times upstairs at LA cafe, Philippines haha. Thought best to behave myself and not offend anyone on my first night in Kenya haha Still had my eye on the tall one with big tits but couldn't get rid of this crazy one. I now know what guys mean when they say the Kenyan girls are clingy.

Earlier in the night, in between girls coming over to me, a young cute one pinched me on the bum and continued over to her friends. At various times she would appear to catch my eye and a waitress I was chatting to had been quizzed by her also, talk about the local network. By the time she came over she knew my name, where I was staying and how long I'd been here in nairobi. All wrong as I never tell my real name, real hotel and I bullshit about being here before and travelling around . But impressive nonetheless. Well she looked like Rhianna with longer hair this girl. 23 she said, no kids and cute as a button. Was 2am by this stage and decided she would be the one. Her friend hit me up for a redbull (no problem) but hitting me up for the taxi ride home alone, my fault because I was taking her friend LOL, was a bit rich and told her so. Which reminds me, if I had given money to everyone that night who had asked / hinted for it (bouncer, waiter, beggars, working girls, their friends etc) I would be broke LOL, the Kenyans definitely arent shy to ask for money, quiet the opposite to Asia in my experience.

Anyhow, this girl and I discussed going on a bus today to a place she said was about 1 hour outside nairobi. Sounded suss to me so went along with the idea until it was time for her to leave this afternoon. Back at the room, a few drinks on balcony and a relaxing blow job. Promising start. Got her tits out on the balcony, big but floppy. I doubted that she had told the truth about no kid, but will have to sample other Kenyan titties to compare. For 23, I was surprised how flabby her tits were, but good fun bags anyway. Showered together and I made sure she washed good. Is it just me or do the Kenyan girls have serious body odour issues? Every girl I spoke to last night, probably 20 or so all up, every girl had bad BO. Seems like they either don't shower or don't use deodorant. Most of them breath was ok when kissed a few. Anyhow, another good BBBJ in shower and the sight of that beautiful dark brown skin all soapy and the gorgeous bubble butt was great. I smiled to myself, I was in Kenya. Mongering heaven.

Yeah I've dragged on, sorry. The bedtime fun was great, unhurried and she was good at her job. Munched on her juicy pink pussy in a 69 for a long time, it was sweet and tasted good. She was up for all positions except doggy, said it hurt her? Slept for 12 hours, we waking every now and then to kiss / fuck. I think we fucked about 6 times overall (I'm no stud, just inspired by her gorgeous butt and powered by a little green pill LOL) , and she never complained once. A positive over the asian girls. But I sensed she was trying to put in a good performance because she knew I was staying for awhile. Anyhow, as good and sweet as she was, I made an excuse to meet friends tonight and told her I will call tomorrow to meet up, which I probably will. There are so many hotties out there and I don't want to be tied down to one on this my first trip. About money? She was playing the GFE and I could have played along, but I'm not going to try to con the girl into thinking a relationship is on the cards for the sake of saving 20 bucks. So I gave her 1500KSH said it was for her trip home and to get some food. She smiled, and although we both knew it was a business transaction, no offences were made. She did not refuse the money (obviously) and she did not ask for more. And by giving money I don't feel like I am obliged to see her again if I choose not to. So first night, only spent about 50 bucks all up for girls drinks, my drinks and the 1500KSH I gave her. Had a great night and just thinking of a new destination tonight, hopefully where I'm not likely to run into Rhianna, but knowing my luck, I will for sure. LOL. Forgot to try for some photos, will try tonight to repay the guys who are regular posters and sharers of information I have relied on for this trip. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Hermescali;1233049]He said he didn't want to leave the Crown Plaza. He will not get a girl for Ksh 2500 from the bar there. He wouldn't if it would be 5th world. Its his choice to stay there and not leave the place.[/QUOTE]Thanks Hermescali, I appreciate your compassion. Not nice being called an idiot!

[QUOTE=Anzac; 1234301]Early impressions of nairobi so far, for someone who has never been, regulars already know it:

Arrived early Thursday on Kenya airways flight from BKK. Kenya airways seats possibly the smallest I have ever.

Had, but the 8. 5 hour flight was ok and service pretty good. Through immigration in about 5 minutes and bag was first on carousel,

Too easy. Within 20 minutes of landing I had my bag. Heading out the doors I gave my customs declaration to a cute girl sitting behind a desk. Her and her friends giggled and then I realised they were the taxi service chicks. Paid 1700KSH for the yellow taxi into the CBD, may have overpaid but the girl was very cute. 200 KSH who cares. Checked into Chester House no problems, very large room overlooking the CBD. From my balcony I can actually watch the honeys going into Madhouse on Koinage St. Surprised that the room has no aircon and no fan, but the nights are cool compared to Bangkok. Good wifi internet included.

Anyhow, had a walk around the town. Sat down in Simmers for a very expensive Heineken around lunch time. The place is ugly and hot and the waitress had major attitude, won't be going back there in a hurry even if it was early when I went. A few older girls sitting around, nothing decent. Had lunch and dinner at the Java House coffee shop / restaurant just up the road from CH, in a side street off Koinage just after the markets. The coffee is good and the meals fresh and tasty. Probably expensive for nairobi? But for 700KSH had a good meal everytime. This place is packed everyday and plenty of young girls hanging out, I'm sure could be chatted up if I could be bothered LOL.

There is a Nakumatt store in the mall in Moktar Daddah street, near the Terminal Hotel I think. Its good for picking up supplies and has alcohol. Picked up a bottle of Gin and some coke for a few on the balcony before heading out. The city has a good vibe at night, I like it so far. I had no problems walking alone day or night, even though as a 6'4 white guy I stick out like dogs balls. If anyone wants to keep fit when here in Nairobi (aside from horizontal bed dancing) there is a small gym just around the corner from CH on Koinage St, Premier Fitness. Looked ok. 600KSH for casual visit. Avoid the Fiesta restaurant on 3rd floor of Chester House. Terrible food IMO.

Thursday night in Madhouse started very quiet. I got there too early (10pm) and was the only guy there. Chatted to the first girl who came over and bought her a drink just for the conversation, guess I was bored LOL. The cuties started rolling in and this one with me wasnt my type, so I excused myself and had a walk around. On my way back in, this cutie latches on to me and follows me to 3rd floor. Shit! I had my eye on this tall one with huge tits and killer body dancing slow on the dancefloor alone. She was hot and she knew it. Regulars to Madhouse would know this girl, a few foreign guys chatted to her like they knew her but obviously her asking price was high. Anyhow, this clingon was backing up to me as I'm standing at the bar. She grabs my hand with a smile on her face and guides it to her arse. She's wearing a skirt, and as my hand makes its way down her arse to her pusssy, hmmm no knickers. A wet juicy pussy with no panties. Excellent. Had a little play and figured she deserved a drink, especially after she sucked my two fingers dry that had just been up her pussy LOL not shy this one. She undid my jeans zipper and wanted to get my dick out at the bar, pissed as I was I stopped her, that going a bit far I thought, although have done many times upstairs at LA cafe, Philippines haha. Thought best to behave myself and not offend anyone on my first night in Kenya haha Still had my eye on the tall one with big tits but couldn't get rid of this crazy one. I now know what guys mean when they say the Kenyan girls are clingy.

Earlier in the night, in between girls coming over to me, a young cute one pinched me on the bum and continued over to her friends. At various times she would appear to catch my eye and a waitress I was chatting to had been quizzed by her also, talk about the local network. By the time she came over she knew my name, where I was staying and how long I'd been here in nairobi. All wrong as I never tell my real name, real hotel and I bullshit about being here before and travelling around. But impressive nonetheless. Well she looked like Rhianna with longer hair this girl. 23 she said, no kids and cute as a button. Was 2am by this stage and decided she would be the one. Her friend hit me up for a redbull (no problem) but hitting me up for the taxi ride home alone, my fault because I was taking her friend LOL, was a bit rich and told her so. Which reminds me, if I had given money to everyone that night who had asked / hinted for it (bouncer, waiter, beggars, working girls, their friends etc) I would be broke LOL, the Kenyans definitely arent shy to ask for money, quiet the opposite to Asia in my experience.

Anyhow, this girl and I discussed going on a bus today to a place she said was about 1 hour outside nairobi. Sounded suss to me so went along with the idea until it was time for her to leave this afternoon. Back at the room, a few drinks on balcony and a relaxing blow job. Promising start. Got her tits out on the balcony, big but floppy. I doubted that she had told the truth about no kid, but will have to sample other Kenyan titties to compare. For 23, I was surprised how flabby her tits were, but good fun bags anyway. Showered together and I made sure she washed good. Is it just me or do the Kenyan girls have serious body odour issues? Every girl I spoke to last night, probably 20 or so all up, every girl had bad BO. Seems like they either don't shower or don't use deodorant. Most of them breath was ok when kissed a few. Anyhow, another good BBBJ in shower and the sight of that beautiful dark brown skin all soapy and the gorgeous bubble butt was great. I smiled to myself, I was in Kenya. Mongering heaven.

Yeah I've dragged on, sorry. The bedtime fun was great, unhurried and she was good at her job. Munched on her juicy pink pussy in a 69 for a long time, it was sweet and tasted good. She was up for all positions except doggy, said it hurt her? Slept for 12 hours, we waking every now and then to kiss / fuck. I think we fucked about 6 times overall (I'm no stud, just inspired by her gorgeous butt and powered by a little green pill LOL) , and she never complained once. A positive over the asian girls. But I sensed she was trying to put in a good performance because she knew I was staying for awhile. Anyhow, as good and sweet as she was, I made an excuse to meet friends tonight and told her I will call tomorrow to meet up, which I probably will. There are so many hotties out there and I don't want to be tied down to one on this my first trip. About money? She was playing the GFE and I could have played along, but I'm not going to try to con the girl into thinking a relationship is on the cards for the sake of saving 20 bucks. So I gave her 1500KSH said it was for her trip home and to get some food. She smiled, and although we both knew it was a business transaction, no offences were made. She did not refuse the money (obviously) and she did not ask for more. And by giving money I don't feel like I am obliged to see her again if I choose not to. So first night, only spent about 50 bucks all up for girls drinks, my drinks and the 1500KSH I gave her. Had a great night and just thinking of a new destination tonight, hopefully where I'm not likely to run into Rhianna, but knowing my luck, I will for sure. LOL. Forgot to try for some photos, will try tonight to repay the guys who are regular posters and sharers of information I have relied on for this trip. Cheers.[/QUOTE]Good report, my suggestion will be to negotiate the price before taking the girl to the room. The reason for that is you don't want fight with the girls in the room. Otherwise enjoy nairobi. Nairobi and mombasa are center of P4P action is east africa.

I believe BO is very rarely only an indicator of lack of hygiene (I usually find Africans washing themselves more often and more thoroughly than most Eurpoeans, especially Northern Europeans ).

It's more likely that what you smell and taste on their skin is the food they eat and the open charcoal fire they cook it on which lingers on in their hair. Chances are you get used to it and will even miss it when you get back to BKK or any other place populated by flatassed girls!

[QUOTE=Anzac;1234301]Early impressions of nairobi so far, for someone who has never been, regulars already know it:.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the excellent report. Try Mombasa next time. Much more laid back.

BO. Even if they washed more than you, they'd still have BO. It has got something to do with a missing type of sweat gland in some races, and hence the lack of BO. You can find different types of BO on Chinese, Koreans, Arabs, Indians, Africans. I kinda like the spicy African one, but in moderation. Call me kinky.

[quote=sir van koff; 1234650]thanks for the excellent report. try mombasa next time. much more laid back.

bo. even if they washed more than you, they'd still have bo. it has got something to do with a missing type of sweat gland in some races, and hence the lack of bo. you can find different types of bo on chinese, koreans, arabs, indians, africans. i kinda like the spicy african one, but in moderation. call me kinky.[/quote]fellow monger. i am writing this from an objective standpoint. first, disclosures are in order. i am a black man. i am not easily offended (so i don't own an naacp membership card and have sharpton or jesse on speed dial). i have mongered all over the world. i have friends of all races and ethnicities and i have been with women of all races and ethnicities. i studied a major that called upon one to have great observational and analytical skills. i have a very sensitive nose when it comes to odors.

so my observations have led me to find that everybody has some sort of body odor. all people who sweat will smell sour (repeatedly wet a wash cloth for a week and you will see what i am talking about). it is true that the smell associated with some ethnicities stem from their diet (think asians like thais, koreans). growing up, i noticed that the native american (american indian) kids had a perculiar odor and that some of the white kids smelled like pigs (swine). blacks have a deep musky smell (perhaps due to the high testerone).

the key difference though is that despite the smells, i have found most of the black women (including african) to be cleaner than the white chicks i have been with. now my sample of white chicks is small so i won't conclude as some would that black women are cleaner than white women (i would need to have been with just as many white women as black women to even draw some sort of conclusion). so the key to my last statement is "the chicks i have been with". now i have been with black chicks that washed before and after we got down, and their cats were nice and fresh. i have also been with black chicks who thought their muff was clean and even after "leading the horse to water" still couldn't get them to "scrub that ass". nothing worse than the smell of ass while hitting it doggy style. similarly, i have been with a few white chicks who washed right before our session and as i was working my way down to the smooth peach, caught a whiff of shit which meant the chick had only water washed the pussy and ass but hadn't used a soapy towel to scrub the dirt away. i have also been with a number of asian chicks, and had a glorious time with several both overseas and in us who were very clean. but i have had a few whose pie holes stank to high heaven (philippines). it is also true that many of the african girls either do not use deordorant or use ones that are not effective. that is largely a supply issue as i have found myself needing to purchase anti-perspirant in kenya and uganda and the best i could find was dial aerosol (puzzles me why you can't find secret solid anti-perspirant in africa). so what i am saying is don't paint all blacks with the same brush, and don't attribute it to something clearly with a racist assumption when it is not factual.

[quote=jiggydus; 1234704]fellow monger. i am writing this from an objective standpoint. first, disclosures are in order. i am a black man. i am not easily offended (so i don't own an naacp membership card and have sharpton or jesse on speed dial). i have mongered all over the world. i have friends of all races and ethnicities and i have been with women of all races and ethnicities. i studied a major that called upon one to have great observational and analytical skills. i have a very sensitive nose when it comes to odors.

so my observations have led me to find that everybody has some sort of body odor. all people who sweat will smell sour (repeatedly wet a wash cloth for a week and you will see what i am talking about). it is true that the smell associated with some ethnicities stem from their diet (think asians like thais, koreans). growing up, i noticed that the native american (american indian) kids had a perculiar odor and that some of the white kids smelled like pigs (swine). blacks have a deep musky smell (perhaps due to the high testerone).

the key difference though is that despite the smells, i have found most of the black women (including african) to be cleaner than the white chicks i have been with. now my sample of white chicks is small so i won't conclude as some would that black women are cleaner than white women (i would need to have been with just as many white women as black women to even draw some sort of conclusion). so the key to my last statement is "the chicks i have been with". now i have been with black chicks that washed before and after we got down, and their cats were nice and fresh. i have also been with black chicks who thought their muff was clean and even after "leading the horse to water" still couldn't get them to "scrub that ass". nothing worse than the smell of ass while hitting it doggy style. similarly, i have been with a few white chicks who washed right before our session and as i was working my way down to the smooth peach, caught a whiff of shit which meant the chick had only water washed the pussy and ass but hadn't used a soapy towel to scrub the dirt away. i have also been with a number of asian chicks, and had a glorious time with several both overseas and in us who were very clean. but i have had a few whose pie holes stank to high heaven (philippines). it is also true that many of the african girls either do not use deordorant or use ones that are not effective. that is largely a supply issue as i have found myself needing to purchase anti-perspirant in kenya and uganda and the best i could find was dial aerosol (puzzles me why you can't find secret solid anti-perspirant in africa). so what i am saying is don't paint all blacks with the same brush, and don't attribute it to something clearly with a racist assumption when it is not factual.[/quote]agreed 100. in my experience african chicks are the cleanest i have ever been with. most african chicks even clean inside their pussy's rather than just wipe the flaps. it is disappointing to read racist posts from forumers who choose to monger in africa!

[QUOTE=LustyHombre; 1234582]I believe BO is very rarely only an indicator of lack of hygiene (I usually find Africans washing themselves more often and more thoroughly than most Eurpoeans, especially Northern Europeans ).

It's more likely that what you smell and taste on their skin is the food they eat and the open charcoal fire they cook it on which lingers on in their hair. Chances are you get used to it and will even miss it when you get back to BKK or any other place populated by flatassed girls![/QUOTE]I have posted about an unforgettable (at least anthropologically and touristically speaking) experience I had with a girl who lived in a corrugated tin shack without running water in an enclave of many side-by-side corrugated shacks around 15 kilometers north of Nairobi.

Without the combination of soap and running water, body odor is inevitable. She sponge bathed a few time while I was there, but this is no way to remove the oils which are part of the underarm bouquet.

I happen to like BO in certain settings. This was one of them.

My point is that if a girl wants for these two things in her everyday life (the aforementioned soap and running water) , no amount of plain-water bathing will remove these, indeed any oil-based or partly comprised smells.

[QUOTE=Bogknib;1234715]Agreed 100. In my experience African chicks are the cleanest I have ever been with. Most African chicks even clean inside their pussy's rather than just wipe the flaps. It is disappointing to read racist posts from forumers who choose to monger in Africa![/QUOTE]@Bogknib. I'm not sure whose comments in particular you are claiming to be racist, but you need to broaden your horizons if you think suggesting that some deodorant would be helpful is a "racist" comment. At no time did I say "All Africans stink". I was writing of my first impressions, and unfortunately body odour with the girls I spoke with on the first night was one of them. Every mongering country and the girls we fuck have positives and negatives, you have to be objective and report on both. As for racism, show me a racist who would openly state "the sight of that beautiful dark brown skin all soapy and the gorgeous bubble butt was great. I smiled to myself, I was in Kenya. Mongering heaven." A "racist" person avoids those he is prejudiced against, he hardly travels to their continent and mixes with them, makes love to them. Obviously your definition of a "racist" is different to mine. In my short time here I have found the girls to be more beautiful than I had hoped and the people amongst the most "genuinely" friendly in the world, and I have travelled every continent and met many people. I have reported on trips to the Philippines before and reported that the girls there often have foul smelling pussies due to poor personal hygiene education, but does that make me racist against Asians? Hardly mate as I live in Bangkok and love asian women. Blokes like you who want to label a point of view / observation as being a racist personal philosophy are the reason that many knowledegable mongerers I know avoid this forum. Share some info / insights and get labelled a racist. Fuck me, get fair dinkum mate.

@Jiggydus. I know what you are saying and I agree different people have different smells. What you find offensive, I may not and vice versa. I too have many friends from all races and when they sweat, like me, they stink. When I stink (according to you, I and other whites smell like swine? LOL) , I put on deodorant so that I'm not on the nose to everyone around me. My observations of the girls are that they are providing a service, and "personally" I would find them even more attractive if they used some deodorant or perfume. Last night I spent time with an erotic dancer who smelt beautiful even after she danced and sweated, because she went straight to the ladies room and applied some deodorant and perfume after dancing. I like a women to smell good and fresh, some blokes like the natural scent of a woman, the musky smell that some refer to. Personally if 2 girls are similar in looks / attitude and one smells good to me and one stinks, I'm going to choose the pleasant smelling one. For some guys it doesn't matter. To each his own. Enjoy the mongering mate. Peace.

Fun and Sun and other blokes who post pics, cheers. A few hurried ones I took to share, hope to get more over coming weeks. This girl was hot in the bed and her legs really were the stairway to heaven. She has the body of an olympic sprinter and the stamina of a marathon runner. Needless to say I couldn't keep up and as soon as I saw that arse doggy style over the sofa, I was gone LOL anyhow, she decided to finish herself off with the KY. LOL. Great chick. Cheers

[QUOTE=Anzac; 1234741]@Bogknib. I'm not sure whose comments in particular you are claiming to be racist, but you need to broaden your horizons if you think suggesting that some deodorant would be helpful is a "racist" comment. At no time did I say "All Africans stink". I was writing of my first impressions, and unfortunately body odour with the girls I spoke with on the first night was one of them. Every mongering country and the girls we fuck have positives and negatives, you have to be objective and report on both. As for racism, show me a racist who would openly state "the sight of that beautiful dark brown skin all soapy and the gorgeous bubble butt was great. I smiled to myself, I was in Kenya. Mongering heaven." A "racist" person avoids those he is prejudiced against, he hardly travels to their continent and mixes with them, makes love to them. Obviously your definition of a "racist" is different to mine. In my short time here I have found the girls to be more beautiful than I had hoped and the people amongst the most "genuinely" friendly in the world, and I have travelled every continent and met many people. I have reported on trips to the Philippines before and reported that the girls there often have foul smelling pussies due to poor personal hygiene education, but does that make me racist against Asians? Hardly mate as I live in Bangkok and love asian women. Blokes like you who want to label a point of view / observation as being a racist personal philosophy are the reason that many knowledegable mongerers I know avoid this forum. Share some info / insights and get labelled a racist. Fuck me, get fair dinkum mate.

@Jiggydus. I know what you are saying and I agree different people have different smells. What you find offensive, I may not and vice versa. I too have many friends from all races and when they sweat, like me, they stink. When I stink (according to you, I and other whites smell like swine? LOL) , I put on deodorant so that I'm not on the nose to everyone around me. My observations of the girls are that they are providing a service, and "personally" I would find them even more attractive if they used some deodorant or perfume. Last night I spent time with an erotic dancer who smelt beautiful even after she danced and sweated, because she went straight to the ladies room and applied some deodorant and perfume after dancing. I like a women to smell good and fresh, some blokes like the natural scent of a woman, the musky smell that some refer to. Personally if 2 girls are similar in looks / attitude and one smells good to me and one stinks, I'm going to choose the pleasant smelling one. For some guys it doesn't matter. To each his own. Enjoy the mongering mate. Peace.[/QUOTE]@Anzac I didn't find your report in any way racist. It was the comments of another forumer that I found objectionable. Thanks 4 the rant tho!

[QUOTE=Jiggydus;1234704]Fellow Monger. I am writing this from an objective standpoint. . So what I am saying is don't paint all blacks with the same brush, and don't attribute it to something clearly with a racist assumption when it is not factual.[/QUOTE]Who me? Racsist? Get a life dude! Also, learn to read. And while you're at it, google for Eccrine and Apocrine sweat glands, their differences in smell and how some races don't have one but have the other type only.

Don't mean to start an argument. This forum has enough useless "overpaid / underpaid" type posts. The last thing we want here is BO analysis. No more replys from me on this topic.

Looking forward to be back in Kenya soon.

Cheers,

SVK

[QUOTE=LustyHombre;1234582]I usually find Africans washing themselves more often and more thoroughly than most Eurpoeans, especially Northern Europeans .[/QUOTE]That's interesting, could you please explain the last part a little bit more?

BTW, coming to Kenya for first time in a few weeks and really looking forward to it!

[QUOTE=Rio2005; 1234866]That's interesting, could you please explain the last part a little bit more?

BTW, coming to Kenya for first time in a few weeks and really looking forward to it![/QUOTE]African women are somewhat cleaner than Western women in my lifelong opinion and experience. White people have a paculiar smell to Africans as well, bear this in mind also. Apart from these observations, this topic could become somewhat silly and pointless, but since you asked.

[QUOTE=Noddy;1235001]African women are somewhat cleaner than Western women in my lifelong opinion and experience. White people have a paculiar smell to Africans as well, bear this in mind also. Apart from these observations, this topic could become somewhat silly and pointless, but since you asked.[/QUOTE]The question was to LustyHombre how he can tell that especially Northern European women contra rest of European women are the ones that wash themselves least.

On our way back home we have one day and night in Nairobi, After reading the forum it seems that Madhouse should be the place for the evening, is that the best choice for the one night only?

[QUOTE=Rio2005;1235029]On our way back home we have one day and night in Nairobi, After reading the forum it seems that Madhouse should be the place for the evening, is that the best choice for the one night only?[/QUOTE]Madhouse yes. A lot of fun can be had, boogy woogy and bonking. Florida 2000 is close by, five min taxi ride, you can check that out as well. Action only gets going midnight, take yourself off to Carnivore restaurant early evening, worthy of an experience although a fair way from town centre.

[QUOTE=Rio2005; 1235029]The question was to LustyHombre how he can tell that especially Northern European women contra rest of European women are the ones that wash themselves least.

On our way back home we have one day and night in Nairobi, After reading the forum it seems that Madhouse should be the place for the evening, is that the best choice for the one night only?[/QUOTE]To explain myself better : I have way too little personal experience with Norther European women to make generalizing statements re. Their washing habits. However, several male relatives of mine have freely admitted to me that, when at home, they don't shower every day, especially not during the winter months!

A couple of months ago, I had planned to finish the remaining month and a half of an original 3 month vacation I had started at the beginning of the year (had to cut short due to work requirements). So my plan this go around was to visit 3 countries and at least 2 different cities specifically within two of those countries. The countries on my trip were Kenya, Malawi, and Uganda, with visits to Mombasa and Nairobi, and Lilongwe and Blantyre. Most of my Uganda action was centered in Kampala so no plans were made to go elsewhere within Uganda.

Prior to purchasing any airplane ticket, I had established a good number of contacts from the two Afro sites as well as AFF (AFF is not necessary IMHO but I did score one good lay and had to take rain checks on at least 3 others) and I also communicated with some of the established fellow mongers in Malawi and Kenya. Once I had a good feeling about those prospects, I booked all of my travel for my entire trip the same day. I purchased an upgradeable (outbound) e-ticket on KLM (yup, I flew Biz Class all the way) from Midwest US to Nairobi for $1, 900USD and RT e-tickets on Kenya Airways from Nairobi to Lilongwe, Nairobi to Mombasa, and Nairobi to Entebbe for $1, 850USD total (I found a little trick by booking first ticket NBO-LLW-NBO-MBA and second ticket MBA-NBO-EBB-NBO saved me $300USD). Yes, I did research the other budget carriers but since it was end of the year, I needed and wanted mileage credit to count for something since Delta SkyMiles program features rollover miles. I would have only ended up saving just a couple hundred dollars that I likely would have had to spend on baggage, so I just went with Kenya Airways, which is supposed to be the Pride of Africa but turned out to be the Shame of Africa, according to one flyer on the 9 hours delayed Kenya Airways flight taking us to Amsterdam on Christmas Day (originally I was booked to fly KLM but that flight got cancelled). But enough with air talk.

Met Jackie C. Upon arrival at JKIA and proceeded to Central Park Hotel. Taxi fare was 3000KSH (roundtrip for her which I paid but wasn't too pleased about that since I had only budgeted 3000KSH for both my arrival and departure taxi rides so I had to go out the next day and exchange more cash-yes fellas I tried to have it down to the last dollar given the length of my trip and my hope that the exchange rate would go in my favor a bit later which it didn't). Hotel Central Park is 2, 800KSH for single + 700KSH for guest with breakfast included; located close to many of the downtown attractions and features free Wifi but it didn't work just like last time (Oct) it wasn't operating. Jackie is a Kikuyu and though a bit thicker than I prefer, we had a wonderful time together. When I say we had a wonderful time, I mean we fucked multiple times each day, and each session lasted at least an hour or so of non stop fucking. I am not big by any means, but I had her falling in love with my dick (and a few other ladies later on). I spent the entire time just with her, but I have so many attractive options awaiting me that I won't do the same next stay. To get around the non-functioning free Wifi, I purchased a Safaricom modem with which you can pay by the Mb or purchase unlimited broadband access for 7 days (1, 000KSH) or a month (3, 000KSH). Next stay I plan to cycle through a new lady every day. Jackie was cool but later became a bit weird, which I will detail in my subsequent report. For those wondering, I only paid the extra room fee (700ksh) , meals for two, one night out at Madhouse which included entrance fee and drinks, and few hundred ksh (like 200ksh) for taxi on couple of occasions. When I was leaving to fly out to Malawi (trip report already posted) , I slipped her 1, 000ksh. Yes that is right! She had painted the picture that she owned a hair salon and she wasn't with me for the money. So no need to call me a cheapo; but you can call me smart for having some really good fucking experiences on the cheap.

So lessons learned from this episode: Don't have chick you never met meet you at the airport (see my Malawi report for why this is a big deal with me); 2. Exchange as much money as you can when the exchange rate was elevated as it was in the September-October timeframe as I did visit Kenya in October but had only carried enough cash for that trip, not my subsequent November and December visits; set your expectations low if you decide to fly Kenya Airways.

<<So no need to call me a cheapo; but you can call me smart for having some really good fucking experiences on the cheap.

Well played Jiggy, though in fairness the air fare and lodging can be a healthy down payment for that Third World Love we all are so committed to! Your reports featuring thrift are most refreshing.

As per usual, great detail and excellent reports!

[QUOTE=LustyHombre;1235516]To explain myself better : I have way too little personal experience with Norther European women to make generalizing statements re. Their washing habits. However, several male relatives of mine have freely admitted to me that, when at home, they don't shower every day, especially not during the winter months![/QUOTE]Yeah, I heard, my friends said bla bla bla. Did they tell you about the polar bears in the streets to?

[QUOTE=Noddy;1235371]Madhouse yes. A lot of fun can be had, boogy woogy and bonking. Florida 2000 is close by, five min taxi ride, you can check that out as well. Action only gets going midnight, take yourself off to Carnivore restaurant early evening, worthy of an experience although a fair way from town centre.[/QUOTE]Thanks Noddy for great tips! After some googling about Carnivore we will definitely go there pre Madhouse and F2!

Any idea where / what to do a couple of hours during the day? Non mongering thing is accepted. Hehe.

Less then a week now before arrival to Jomo Kenyatta and after that a short flight to Mombasa!

[QUOTE=Rio2005;1239576]Any idea where / what to do a couple of hours during the day? Non mongering thing is accepted. Hehe.[/QUOTE]All depends on your interests. Game drive, picnic with a chick, swim, explore the town, museum.

You will probably be wanting to rest after your nightly activities at any rate.

[QUOTE=Rio2005; 1239576]Yeah, I heard, my friends said bla bla bla. Did they tell you about the polar bears in the streets to?

Thanks Noddy for great tips! After some googling about Carnivore we will definitely go there pre Madhouse and F2!

Any idea where / what to do a couple of hours during the day? Non mongering thing is accepted. Hehe.

Less then a week now before arrival to Jomo Kenyatta and after that a short flight to Mombasa![/QUOTE]One foodie's take on where to eat:

If you're into a thoroughly weird, gaudy and inauthentic African dining experience, then by all means check out Carnivore. The meat tastes fine but the spectacle was rather absurd to me.

But if you want to eat the way Africans eat when they go out to eat great home cooking, check out Renalo Foods in downtown.

Heaven on the cheap and real.

Is it possible to find Somali prostitutes in Nairobi, or is it just a myth. I heard rumors about Somali women, especially in Eastleigh and the various nightclubs in downtown Nairobi such as Florida. Can anyone provide me with any info to confirm or reject the idea of Somali prostitutes in Nairobi?

Thanks.

Women from the entire Eastern African region are found in Nairobi. Not just Somali.

Hi Guys,

I will shortly be in Nairobi for a week (my first time in Kenya!)

I have to be somewhere near the KICC (Kenya International Conference Centre) for business but I want to make SURE I pick a GF hotel that is well located for my 'evening activities! '

I am looking for something around a 4* and would be most grateful if someone could give me some recommendations (either by posting or by pm)

Thanks in advance,

Hotman. (a Kenya VIRGIN!)

[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1240873]Hi Guys,

I will shortly be in Nairobi for a week (my first time in Kenya!)

I have to be somewhere near the KICC (Kenya International Conference Centre) for business but I want to make SURE I pick a GF hotel that is well located for my 'evening activities! '

I am looking for something around a 4* and would be most grateful if someone could give me some recommendations (either by posting or by pm)

Thanks in advance,

Hotman. (a Kenya VIRGIN!) [/QUOTE]I have been to Nairobi on multiple occasions though I have never stayed at the 4* hotels in the CBD (Central Business District) ; however, I have spent a lot of time around this area and know of the gf hotels from accounts here as well as from what I observed (yes I did go into some of them like the Stanley and Hilton). I would say your best bet in terms of gf 4* hotels in the CBD near the KICC (walking distance or less than 5 minutes drive) would be Nairobi InterContinental (though the condition of this hotel is not as good as Stanley). Stanlely looks nice but did not appear gf though I would defer to anyone having first hand experience staying there. I have heard mixed reports about Hilton and would likely avoid (I was contemplating staying at the Hilton but reading the reviews on Trip Advisor made me change my mind). If you have vehicle transportation, your next best bet might be the Crowne Plaza on Upper Hill which is less than 1. 5km from the CBD but can be a slog getting there during rush hour traffic as that stretch of road from the roundabout coming from the Crowne Plaza to the CBD is usually always packed solid with traffic. So you would just need to plan accordingly. As much money flows through Nairobi, it is a shame that there are more well-kept 4* hotels in that area. Also, InterContinental has a bar where you can find willing ladies to keep you company. I can't say anything about how much the damage will be since I did not partake of any of that scene (I went the non-pro gf route mostly). Sorry can't speak from first hand experience wrt Nairobi, but if you ever find yourself heading to Ghana, Togo, Senegal, Sierra Leone (it's been a few years and I know things change) , or The Gambia, I can point you in the right direction from first hand experience.

[QUOTE=Jiggydus;1240886]I have been to Nairobi on multiple occasions though I have never stayed at the 4* hotels in the CBD (Central Business District) ; however, I have spent a lot of time around this area and know of the gf hotels from accounts here as well as from what I observed (yes I did go into some of them like the Stanley and Hilton). I would say your best bet in terms of gf 4* hotels in the CBD near the KICC (walking distance or less than 5 minutes drive) would be Nairobi InterContinental (though the condition of this hotel is not as good as Stanley). Stanlely looks nice but did not appear gf though I would defer to anyone having first hand experience staying there. I have heard mixed reports about Hilton and would likely avoid (I was contemplating staying at the Hilton but reading the reviews on Trip Advisor made me change my mind). If you have vehicle transportation, your next best bet might be the Crowne Plaza on Upper Hill which is less than 1. 5km from the CBD but can be a slog getting there during rush hour traffic as that stretch of road from the roundabout coming from the Crowne Plaza to the CBD is usually always packed solid with traffic. So you would just need to plan accordingly. As much money flows through Nairobi, it is a shame that there are more well-kept 4* hotels in that area. Also, InterContinental has a bar where you can find willing ladies to keep you company. .[/QUOTE]From my experience 4* and 5* hotels in Nairobi CBD seem to charge through the nose for lady friends back to the room!

They have security at the elevators that bounce you back to the front desk for the lady to sign in & for you to sign the addition to your bill.

Am not sure what this rate is today. But last year at Stanley it was $100. Yes One Hundred Dollars for a "guest" to your room. Now in Nairobi $100 pays for a lot of ass.

Similar rates are at the Intercon. Which is closest to the KICC.

You can book a double of course. Which may make the "addition fee" smaller. But then expect that it all depends on how you handle your expense account!

G

[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1240873]Hi Guys,

I will shortly be in Nairobi for a week (my first time in Kenya!)

I have to be somewhere near the KICC (Kenya International Conference Centre) for business but I want to make SURE I pick a GF hotel that is well located for my 'evening activities! '

I am looking for something around a 4* and would be most grateful if someone could give me some recommendations (either by posting or by pm)

Thanks in advance,

Hotman. (a Kenya VIRGIN!) [/QUOTE]In all of the hotels mentioned before (Hilton, Stanley, Crowne Plaza, InterConti and also Serena) you won't have any issues at all if you book a double room w / double occupancy in advance. However, all of those hotels insist that your guest needs to be registered and therefore needs to carry a national I'd card.

I personally find the Hilton horrible and overpriced, however the location is very convenient. The rooms in the Stanley are fairly noisy if you happen to get a room on the street-side. I found the Crowne Plaza very pleasant but its a nightmare to get back to CBD during rush hour. Also, like all hotels in upper hill its a non-smoking hotel, which might not be a big deal if you are a non-smoker.

Please do not pick up any girls in hotel bars. They are overpriced and you find much better looking company outside.

[QUOTE=Noddy;1240762]Women from the entire Eastern African region are found in Nairobi. Not just Somali.[/QUOTE]Can you say that from personal experience?

[QUOTE=AR2011;1241387]Can you say that from personal experience?[/QUOTE]Yes! I have sampled women from the entire Eastern African region, except for Ethiopean. Please take the time to read the forum, your answers are within. A few have taken the time and trouble to post reports for all to glean. Perhaps we will be reading your sexperience upon your return.

[QUOTE=Jhack111; 1241317]In all of the hotels mentioned before (Hilton, Stanley, Crowne Plaza, InterConti and also Serena) you won't have any issues at all if you book a double room w / double occupancy in advance. However, all of those hotels insist that your guest needs to be registered and therefore needs to carry a national I'd card.

I personally find the Hilton horrible and overpriced, however the location is very convenient. The rooms in the Stanley are fairly noisy if you happen to get a room on the street-side. I found the Crowne Plaza very pleasant but its a nightmare to get back to CBD during rush hour. Also, like all hotels in upper hill its a non-smoking hotel, which might not be a big deal if you are a non-smoker.

Please do not pick up any girls in hotel bars. They are overpriced and you find much better looking company outside.[/QUOTE]I happen to know that if you are a member of Intercontinental's Ambassador Program (Gold Level) , which you can buy on the spot at any of their hotels, they will waive the double occupancy fee for bringing "friends" to your room. Whenever I am in Nairobi I always stay at Intercon.

Hi,

I would be visiting Nairobi next month. I was suggested 680 hotel, is the hotel GF and is it near the pick up bars. What are the girls pick up rates currently in USD for the full night.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Tercar 66; 1244787]Hi,

I would be visiting Nairobi next month. I was suggested 680 hotel, is the hotel GF and is it near the pick up bars. What are the girls pick up rates currently in USD for the full night.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Tercar,

I am looking for a hotel around CBD as well and wish you luck in your search.

I have travelled widely around the world but never been to Kenya before.

Reading the reports on the various travel sites it seems rather difficult to find ANY Nairobi hotel with consistently reasonable reviews that offers the facilities that we mongers want!

SixEighty hotel on trip adviser has 60 reviews.

2 put it in the Excellent category. 12 say Very good. 16 say Average. 15 say Poor and 15 rate it as Terrible!

Quite a variation!

Several reports mention thefts from guest rooms.

Don't get me wrong. I am NOT 'knocking' this hotel as I have NEVER stayed there myself and the bad reports seem quite typical of MANY of the Nairobi hotels. From Two star to Five star, all the hotels that I have checked seem to have a wide spread of reviews ranging from 'JUST GREAT' to NEVER AGAIN. '

I am not difficult to please but I can not remember EVER having so many problems in picking somewhere to stay!

Just a 'reasonable' CBD located 4 Star that is safe and GF and which is not going to hit me with some huge extra for 'joiners' would be good! '

I read conflicting report on ISG and other sites. Some say 'no problem if you book a double room' Others talk of being hit with a charge of up to US$100.

It would be nice if 'playmates' could be found nearby to the hotel and (for me) if they had smoking rooms also.

So, I will be very interested in any replies that you get and, if I can ask you a favour. As my visit is not until after your trip I would welcome any comments that you may have when you return home.

Hope you Enjoy,

Hotman

[QUOTE=Tercar 66; 1244787]Hi,

I would be visiting Nairobi next month. I was suggested 680 hotel, is the hotel GF and is it near the pick up bars. What are the girls pick up rates currently in USD for the full night.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Hi Tercar.

I shall be arriving in Nairobi on the 27th March for what will be my first mongering trip to Kenya. And I've booked the 680 hotel. If you are arriving before me and elect to stay at this hotel it would be good to get your feedback on it and a report on the girls that frequent the bar and the Simmers bar / club opposite. If by chance you are still there when I arrive I would be pleased to buy you a beer.

You can find the forum members suggested overnight rates for girls on a few pages in this forum. Just use xl. Com to do your conversion. Should you wish to avoid the thrill of the chase / the hassel of negotiating rates there's nothing to stop you from using the likes of [url]www.kenyaraha.net/index.aspx[/url] And use their search facility.

TheShagmaster

Generally it is very difficult to speak about the quality of hotels in any country, In Kenya it's impossible. However, it depends on what you want and how much you are willing to spend. I've never been to the 680 Hotel. I slept in Ambassador hotel, too noisy and quality not comparable whit the fee; Oaxwood is not bad but it also, according to Western standards, is not worth the price you pay. In 2006 I was several times at the Embassy hotel: spartan. 1500 ksh per night and something else (perhaps 500) if you bring a girl. It is close to the Madhouse. I sew good reports about Terminal Hotel, not far away. In general, in my experience, hotels with average prices are not worth the asking price, while those with low price are very basic but what you pay. The superior hotel are uncharted waters for me. I think all hotels in Nairobi are girl friendly.

[QUOTE=TheShagmaster; 1245335]You can find the forum members suggested overnight rates for girls on a few pages in this forum. Just use xl. Com to do your conversion. Should you wish to avoid the thrill of the chase / the hassel of negotiating rates there's nothing to stop you from using the likes of.

[url]www.kenyaraha.net/index.aspx[/url]

And use their search facility.

TheShagmaster[/QUOTE]I have found these adult websites such as Adult Friend Finder and the one above to be suspect. Sure you can sometimes find a gem in them, but usually the experience leaves you feeling like less than stellar. If I am going to just boil it down to busting a wet dream, I would just as soon wank off than get with a weak, starfish who is only interested in my ksh (I never part with US greenbacks or Euro). I speak from experience on that which is why I seek the chase. I also don't negotiate as I merely give what I think is fitting. Usually that fitting figure is the equivalent of 10-30 USD and on a few rare occasions have I parted with 50-100 USD (in most of those instances, I was under duress from a troublemaking Chica or splitting that between two chicas). Though if I hit the lottery, I might just become a high roller many on here love to hate!

[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1245237]Tercar,

I am looking for a hotel around CBD as well and wish you luck in your search.

I always stay at Chester House. These are apartments so you get more room (bedroom, lounge, kitchen, balcony). It has a restaurant (never eaten there) , bar, pool. The rooms are abit basic but are clean (never had an insect problems) , TV, free Wi-Fi. Completely free to bring someone back. They take their I'd for your protection. And it is right next to Madhouse and two minuites walk from Simmers. There is a gym and Barclays bank right next door.

Hi Guys,

Thank you for your feedback, As I will be going to NBO for my business trip, I would not like to travel very far for Mongering. Is 680 Hotel ideal place to be for night action or I should look for some other hotel. My hotel budget is not more for USD 50 per night.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Tercar 66; 1245579]Hi Guys,

Thank you for your feedback, As I will be going to NBO for my business trip, I would not like to travel very far for Mongering. Is 680 Hotel ideal place to be for night action or I should look for some other hotel. My hotel budget is not more for USD 50 per night.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Hi Tercar,

I think that you are going to be hard pushed to find a Hotel at less than $50 a night in central Nairobi. Hotel Kipepeo and Blue Hut Hotel are the only ones that came close in my search. $51 and $53 per night respectively for single occupancy whilst the 680 was $95 per night. I read this forum to ascertain whether the hotel was girl friendly and also checked out traveltrip advisor. It was there that I saw that a lot of hotel bars (the 680 included) are frequented by working girls. Perfect for me as I, like Jiggydus, would rather chase down my own girls in the bar or preferably a club (like Simmers opposite the 680) and collect numbers and then call / hook up with them the following day but only after I have negotiated an all inclusive fee fixed fee. I know me and my little man clouds the issue somewhat unless he has just been taken care of.

I append the link to the hotel search engine I used. Hope it helps.

TheShagmaster.

[url]http://www.outlet-hotels.com/result.html?srid=96f9404af0382822c9898b5bed947d47&sort=l[/url]

Hi.

I managed to get a very good deal from 680 Hotel, Seems to be an ideal place, hence I will cofirm my booking with them.

Thanks again,

Cheers

[QUOTE=Tercar 66; 1245952]Hi.

I managed to get a very good deal from 680 Hotel, Seems to be an ideal place, [/QUOTE]Just a tiny little piece of advice: Always register your guest at the reception, even if you go to your room for ST at let's say 2pm! Otherwise you might be ripped off by the guards on the floor!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Jiggydus;1245415]I have found these adult websites such as Adult Friend Finder and the one above to be suspect. Sure you can sometimes find a gem in them, but usually the experience leaves you feeling like less than stellar. If I am going to just boil it down to busting a wet dream, I would just as soon wank off than get with a weak, starfish who is only interested in my ksh (I never part with US greenbacks or Euro). I speak from experience on that which is why I seek the chase. I also don't negotiate as I merely give what I think is fitting. Usually that fitting figure is the equivalent of 10-30 USD and on a few rare occasions have I parted with 50-100 USD (in most of those instances, I was under duress from a troublemaking Chica or splitting that between two chicas). Though if I hit the lottery, I might just become a high roller many on here love to hate![/QUOTE]Hi Jiggydus,

Although I've been going to Thailand two / three times a year for the past decade this will be the first time I've gone mongering in Africa. I have found that what suits me best is to overdose on chicks for the first few days and then select one to be my constant companion for the remainder of my stay. Easy enough in Thailand. I just pay the Long Time (overnight) rate and then treat them as a girlfriend, picking up the tab for food, drinks, trips out and the like and on occasion buying selective items of clothing that I will enjoy them wearing.

Does the same rule of thumb apply in Nairobi and what should I budget bearing in mind I prefer gazelles to buffalo?

TheShagmaster

Greetings all,

I shall be in Nairobi from Thursday next 23 Feb 2012, anybody in town please pm me,

Wild Rover

Hi,

I have been Pm'd by a well wisher as to not to go for 680 Hotel as they make a fuss about taking girls in the rooms. As I have limited time to confirm the hotel, please give me the best 3 star GF hotel within walking distance of pick up bars and Single room including breakfast and taxes not more then USD 60 per night.

Cheers

Please. This is a site for advising on girls and working girls.

If you want to discuss hotels then please go to hotels. Com or similar. There is so much advice out there.

I am bored shitless with all the posts.

[QUOTE=Donnachaa; 1250511]Please. This is a site for advising on girls and working girls.

If you want to discuss hotels then please go to hotels. Com or similar. There is so much advice out there.

I am bored shitless with all the posts.[/QUOTE]Its so easy to find working girls or freebees in Nairobi. Reasonable hotels are more difficult to find. So I like these posts

[QUOTE=Tercar 66; 1249905]Hi,

I have been Pm'd by a well wisher as to not to go for 680 Hotel as they make a fuss about taking girls in the rooms. As I have limited time to confirm the hotel, please give me the best 3 star GF hotel within walking distance of pick up bars and Single room including breakfast and taxes not more then USD 60 per night.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Look back at the other posts on this thread re the Central Park Hotel.

[QUOTE=Hermescali;1250594]Its so easy to find working girls or freebees in Nairobi. Reasonable hotels are more difficult to find. So I like these posts[/QUOTE]The broader purpose of the forum is to provide information on ALL issues which are either fundamental or ancillary to the pursuit of pussy. Titillating pictures and tales of conquest may add color and verve, but they are not particularly informative and are rarely useful.

Restaurants, entertainment and lodging are very much factors in the pursuit of our hobby.

[QUOTE=Donnachaa; 1250511]Please. This is a site for advising on girls and working girls.

If you want to discuss hotels then please go to hotels. Com or similar. There is so much advice out there.

I am bored shitless with all the posts.[/QUOTE]Please skip the posts that bore you. In Kenya, finding good quality girl friendly hotels is harder than finding girls to practice your hobby.

So with respect to all senior members on this forum, this is my first post and I need help! Will be visiting Kenya in a couple months and as I've read through at least 5 pages of threads all I've pretty much gathered was the below info (excluding hotel issues) :

1. Madhouse is a good place to pick up girls.

2. Don't over-pay them.

3. Lots of chatter about BO (which frankly I think most of us had encountered but I've never really find it too problematic).

I'd be greatly thankful if anyone can help answer my below questions:

1. I'm staying at a friend's (who is NOT a fellow monger) so am looking for outcall. Is it safe. The escort services online?

2. Are there establishments like those in SE Asia instead of the club scene? The ones you go in and just pick a girl instead of having to go through the drink-buying and dancing and negotiating?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Helya; 1251009]So with respect to all senior members on this forum, this is my first post and I need help! Will be visiting Kenya in a couple months and as I've read through at least 5 pages of threads all I've pretty much gathered was the below info (excluding hotel issues) :

1. Madhouse is a good place to pick up girls.

2. Don't over-pay them.

3. Lots of chatter about BO (which frankly I think most of us had encountered but I've never really find it too problematic).

I'd be greatly thankful if anyone can help answer my below questions:

1. I'm staying at a friend's (who is NOT a fellow monger) so am looking for outcall. Is it safe. The escort services online?

2. Are there establishments like those in SE Asia instead of the club scene? The ones you go in and just pick a girl instead of having to go through the drink-buying and dancing and negotiating?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Escort service in Nairobi. O my god

[QUOTE=Helya; 1251009]2. Are there establishments like those in SE Asia instead of the club scene? The ones you go in and just pick a girl instead of having to go through the drink-buying and dancing and negotiating?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]There are several massage places in the CBD that provide FS. They're located in a red-brick building between Biashara and Tubman streets. The place I went to is called Le Celeb haircutters or something similar, it's on the 5th floor. I went there at 4pm on a Saturday, there were 3 girls of whom only 1 was doable. She stands out from others as she's half-white and a little chubby. Decent session but nothing special. Facilities are terrible, nothing at all like SEA. If you search this thread for massage you'll find a more detailed description of this place.

Also, consider Simmers as an alternative to Madhouse. I went to Madhouse twice and didn't like at all what I saw. I mean both the girls (most are quite ugly) and the atmosphere. But as always, YMMV.

I have a couple of girls who are very ok with group sex in both Nairobi and Kampala and in particular want to try the two girl one guy scenario. Anybody interested?

[QUOTE=Helya; 1251009]So with respect to all senior members on this forum, this is my first post and I need help! Will be visiting Kenya in a couple months and as I've read through at least 5 pages of threads all I've pretty much gathered was the below info (excluding hotel issues) :

1. I'm staying at a friend's (who is NOT a fellow monger) so am looking for outcall. Is it safe. The escort services online?

2. Are there establishments like those in SE Asia instead of the club scene? The ones you go in and just pick a girl instead of having to go through the drink-buying and dancing and negotiating?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Helya, we've all been newbies once upon a time : no need to apologize!

To your questions :

1. I suppose you mean "incalls" (where you go to the girl's place ).

2. Yes, there are plenty of those. Check the internet for Adult Massage or Erotic Massage, or simply hop into a cab and ask the driver to take you to the most upscale place he knows (or the cheapest, if that is your preference ).

Hev fun + report to us afterward, please.

Hi,

Am going to be in Nairobi this Sunday onwards. What are the preferred places for weekend action?

Fortunately, have been able to line up a couple of interesting ones' from a dating site. Shall share FR. On how that works out'.

Some are expecting gifts and such'. Oh well.

Now here's the rub. Have been booked by someone local at Jacaranda Hotel around Westlands area which I understand has a fairly buzzing neighborhood.

Is this hotel a girl friendly place? And does it need to register the girl's I'd at reception before taking to the room?

There is a post there on another Hotel that recommends it. So its valid for all hotels? And is there an extra charge for that. Please advise.

Feel free to PM me if you can suggest someone specific. As its a short trip. And happy to catch up for a beer. Share notes and travels.

Cheers!

Thanks guys, great info! Will def be having an adventure as it'll be my first trip to Africa. Will send in a field report (will be a couple months until the trip tho!)

[QUOTE=TheShagmaster; 1248572]Hi Jiggydus,

Although I've been going to Thailand two / three times a year for the past decade this will be the first time I've gone mongering in Africa. I have found that what suits me best is to overdose on chicks for the first few days and then select one to be my constant companion for the remainder of my stay. Easy enough in Thailand. I just pay the Long Time (overnight) rate and then treat them as a girlfriend, picking up the tab for food, drinks, trips out and the like and on occasion buying selective items of clothing that I will enjoy them wearing.

Does the same rule of thumb apply in Nairobi and what should I budget bearing in mind I prefer gazelles to buffalo?

TheShagmaster[/QUOTE]Hi Shamaster,

Regrets on the delayed response but I have been extremely busy the past two weeks and not much online time. I think anytime a man treats a lady nicely with food, drinks, entertainment, and gifts, most girls will be interested in a longer term arrangement. I think it is up to each gent to treat a woman in the manner he can afford (I. E. If a guy hopes to take a lady "off the meat market" he might hope that throwing the extra Baht, Schilling, Peso, dollar will do the trick (Hope and Change, two sometimes elusive things) , but if he only wants a good time for the time in the particular place, taking into consideration the market rate is always good for both him and future punters.). Truth be told, the requests I have fielded from my "girlfriends" would exceed the amount I have paid for pure p4p encounters. For example, one girlfriend asked me for an iPad2 (yes she was specific); another requested the Samsung Rezor or something like that (yep, she was specific as apparently not any old new cell phone would do); another just requested I help her with medical bills; 3 have requested $600USD-in one case it was for a moto; in the other two cases, it was for schools (I asked more questions and found the schools they wanted to attend were questionable in terms of accredation and even operation; why one had just had its Nairobi campus doors shuttered by the landlord, leaving the current students in a lurch). As far as budgeting, after factoring in your personal hotel (I usually select hotels that don't charge extra for companion or if that is not an option, I just go with the double), communications, food, water, and transportation expenses, I would include an extra 50USD per day when going the girlfriend route. Now if you catch a high class girlfriend, you might need to bump that up to an extra 100USD, but I don't go for those type of ladies so my budget is usually a mere 20USD (yeah I know! Some cheap bastard I am!)

I think your strategy is a good one, and since you never know how the bird will taste until you unwrap it, a sensible one at that. I have met quite a few ladies in Nairobi and Mombasa that were fine ladies, but lacked something in the hygiene department (there is a quick solution for body odor, but stanky P is more problematic and I usually just limit myself to the one experience when I run into stanky P smell my piston exposes). And yes I am always wearing my American sheaths, be they latex or synthetic.

However, I must admit that I have been touched by some of the beautiful young ladies I have met over the past year. I can see the dilemma some punters get caught in, but I like to think that for every bad story we hear about on here of a punter getting taken to the cleaners by a conniving chica, there are hundreds of good stories of punters finding the beauty and womanly qualities they seek, relocating to either the girl's country or bringing her back to his country, settling down and having a nice life. End of fairy tale! That said, although I have met quite a few lovelies, I can never see myself getting married again.

Anyway, back on subject, Shagmaster you should have no problem finding a good one to keep around for the bulk of your days. But I would highly recommend taking chica you select as the one for clinical tests and checkup if you desire to go bare. On my latest trip to Nairobi and Mombasa, I met a number of ladies who seemingly had some sort of minor vaginal infection / odor. Or at the very least if you can do so, bring along a few bottles of feminine wash so the one you want to stick with can have a Massengill moment and dining at the Y will be a much more pleasant experience (yeah, I didn't do much of that as I value staying healthy). If space limitations prevent that, just stop by local supermarket and pick up some bottled water and vinegar (I would just google how to make homemade vaginal douche solution for the proper proportions).

Now taking some time off. It has been a fucking fantastic 12 months!

This may be too late to the poster who asked about the Jacaranda. I did stay there decades ago, met a hairdresser lady in the coffee shop who was with friends. She lassoed one of her friends to give us a ride to a nightclub, with predictable subsequent results. Ended doing her in her place in the suburbs and took a bus back in the morning. She just loved to be eaten, that probably not being a very common delight in those days. Overall, a nice experience.

The Jacaranda, at the time known as the Agip Jacaranda after the oil company, was used in those days by European tour groups. The next day I met a gorgeous Belgian babe at the pool. Unfortunately, she was flying out in a few hours and nothing happened but certainly with guests staying at the Jacaranda there are no problems taking them into rooms.

In much of Africa, there are no room problems if you booked a double. Also, Kenya is a very understanding country. All men have needs and so do women. Just ask any receptionist. If nothing else works (and you stay in central Nairobi) , take your love to one of the many "day and night clubs," 24-hour operations that have cubicles with a cot for the purpose, often with running water and sink.

Hi guys,

Will arrive in Nairobi on April 22th 6 pm.

Would like to take the next available flight to Mombasa on this evening.

Better to book a flight online before or just buy a ticket on airport?

It will be my first trip to Kenya.

Thailand and Philippines is easy for me I just go to the airport and buy a ticket (ecluded in high season).

Any experiences or hints about that?

Name of airlines for example?

Thanks.

Blackypop

[QUOTE=Blackypop; 1259143]Hi guys,

Will arrive in Nairobi on April 22th 6 pm.

Would like to take the next available flight to Mombasa on this evening.

Better to book a flight online before or just buy a ticket on airport?

It will be my first trip to Kenya.

Thailand and Philippines is easy for me I just go to the airport and buy a ticket (ecluded in high season).

Any experiences or hints about that?

Name of airlines for example?

Thanks.

Blackypop[/QUOTE]There are 3 airlines you can use in getting from Nairobi to Mombasa. All allow ticket purchases day of departure, but since I have never done that, I cannot speak about last minute pricing. However you can go to their websites and compare fares.

Kenya Airways has most frequent flights but also is most expensive option in most cases. It is a part of the Flying Blue and SkyTeam alliances, so if you look for the benefits associated with elite status (access to lounge in NBO and mileage credit for all but the cheapest E-Best Buy fare is about it as there was no early boarding for biz class or elite flyers last time I flew with them in December) , then this would be one way to go.

Fly540 is a budget option and I hear the customer service is better than KQ. I did a quick check of flight leaving today and RT costs $192 USD (incl. Taxes and fees). One way leaving today runs $96 USD. KQ's E-Best Buy matches Fly540, but the standard fare that will qualify for mileage credit is $17 more.

Jet link is a budget option. I could not obtain pricing for today as it seems their flights are booked solid until Thursday, but RT on that day and returning the following week runs $158 (incl. Taxes and fees). But it looks like this is not best option to buy last minute ticket as seat may not be available when you walk up that day.

For April 22, fares are as follow as of today:

KQ RT. E-best buy $151; standard $185.

Jetlink. Best fare is $158.

Fly540. $192 (it looks like Fly540 is better same day option only since their fare does not vary and still have seat availability)

Well I hope that helps. Just google the name of these airlines to find their web pages. I don't ever buy economy tickets at last minute. If I know my plans might change I purchase either the flexible fare ticket or biz class ticket which permits changes with no penalties. On the other hand, the fee to change tickets with these airlines pales in comparison to the fees EU and US legacy carriers charge.

Thanks a lot@Jiggydus.

I would like to book it online before but what I do when my flight from Zürich is too late?

I think I will go the risk to buy the ticket on airport same as in Thailand and the Philippines I have done many times before.

By the way:

Any recommend hotel for stay 1 night in Nairobi in case of I would be late?

Blackypop

Just returned from 3 weeks in Kenya, mostly Nairobi. Only went to Mad house a couple of nights, didn't much care for the selection. What I did find was that all I needed to do was stand in my hotel entrance and smile at the women (walking past) who I found attractive. While walking or running errands the ladies that were interested simply gave me some type of acknowledgement. This was all that was needed to get a number for later and hook up for fun. I met and was with some stunning ladies, at first it was odd, but than it was like shooting fish in a barrel. Went to Nanyuki, Nakuru and Masai Mara and Nairobi National Park for safari. Kenya is a wonderfully beautiful place and I found the people extremely friendly. Never really experienced anything in comparison to meeting women like I did in Nairobi. Too cool.

I want to thank you guys for your advise on hotel selection. I finally booking in 680 hotel. Excellent GF hotel with security on every floor. To take a female at night there is an extra charge of USD 25. Before 6 pm it is free so one can take a companion in the room. Simmer is just opposite the hotel but I would recommend Black Diamond night club. You can get excellent babes for USD 50.

There are bingo games in the hotel every day, incase one wants to kill time during the day.

Happy mongering

Hi All,

I have just run a search on the forum but could not really answer the following question:

Is Nairobi a good destination to visit over the Easter weekend? Or is everywhere closed? Is the number or quality of girls less (or the number of customers higher) than normal?

Many thanks in advance for you help,

Altered Ego

[QUOTE=Altered Ego; 1261691]Hi All,

I have just run a search on the forum but could not really answer the following question:

Is Nairobi a good destination to visit over the Easter weekend? Or is everywhere closed? Is the number or quality of girls less (or the number of customers higher) than normal?

Many thanks in advance for you help,

Altered Ego[/QUOTE]In Nairobi and Mombasa everyday is a party day!

It makes me so sad to read so many boring boring reports of hotels in Nairobi and flights to Nairobi and Mombasa.

In the name of God Almighty. Every Hotel in Nairobi is Girl Friendly. The cheapest is the Terminal at 16 Euro, the Parkside at 25 Euro, the Comfort at 30 Euro.

All the rest are more expensive depending on Star Quality. So please no more questions on hotels. You are boring the shit out of me.

Similarly. It costs 100 Euro to fly from Nairobi to Mombasa. So please. No more questions about flights.

It is so important to get back to what this site really stands for. To inform fellow mongers on Ladies.

This beautiful lady we met in Taco Bells near Hilton. She told us she had an Italian Fiancee so was very experienced at taking it up the ass.

My friend and I were not so experienced but eventually succeeded in me fucking her in the ass and he fucking her in her pussy. The orgy did not last very long as I got so excited that I shot my load almost immediately. It was the first time, in 50 years, that I was up a girls asshole.

Take Care

Hi Pagal,

Many thanks for your reply, however with all due respect to you, I think that perhaps my question has not quite been fully answered.

Please could you (or anybody else) elaborate?

Thanks again,

Altered Ego.

[QUOTE=Pagal Chacha; 1261711]In Nairobi and Mombasa everyday is a party day!

[QUOTE=Altered Ego; 1261691]Hi All,

I have just run a search on the forum but could not really answer the following question:

Is Nairobi a good destination to visit over the Easter weekend? Or is everywhere closed? Is the number or quality of girls less (or the number of customers higher) than normal?

Many thanks in advance for you help,

Altered Ego[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Donnachaa; 1261859]It makes me so sad to read so many boring boring reports of hotels in Nairobi and flights to Nairobi and Mombasa.

In the name of God Almighty. Every Hotel in Nairobi is Girl Friendly. The cheapest is the Terminal at 16 Euro, the Parkside at 25 Euro, the Comfort at 30 Euro.

All the rest are more expensive depending on Star Quality. So please no more questions on hotels. You are boring the shit out of me.

Similarly. It costs 100 Euro to fly from Nairobi to Mombasa. So please. No more questions about flights.

It is so important to get back to what this site really stands for. To inform fellow mongers on Ladies.

This beautiful lady we met in Taco Bells near Hilton. She told us she had an Italian Fiancee so was very experienced at taking it up the ass.

My friend and I were not so experienced but eventually succeeded in me fucking her in the ass and he fucking her in her pussy. The orgy did not last very long as I got so excited that I shot my load almost immediately. It was the first time, in 50 years, that I was up a girls asshole.

Take Care[/QUOTE]Well said Donnachaa

Hi everyone, I will be in Nairobi on April 17-19, staying at the Hilton. I am seeking for a pal for a threesome with my girl friend a stlylish nice Kenyan girl. You can PM me.

My First and Only Double Penetration. Would love to try again.

This beautiful lady we met in Taco Bells near Hilton. She told us she had an Italian Fiancee so was very experienced at taking it up the ass.

My friend and I were not so experienced but eventually succeeded in me fucking her in the ass and he fucking her in her pussy. The orgy did not last very long as I got so excited that I shot my load almost immediately. It was the first time, in 50 years, that I was up a girls asshole.

Hi friends, I will have 2 free weeks and I'd like to spend this time in Nairobi and Mombasa.

I hope I don't make a mistake to slpit 14 days in two towns.

I'd like to know:

1) Can you suggest a good but no expensive apartment with kitchen in Nairobi?

2) How much is more expensive for linving Nairobi than Mombasa?

3) What difference about Nairobi and Mombasa girls?

Thanks or clearing my ideas.

[QUOTE=Donnachaa; 1263821]My First and Only Double Penetration. Would love to try again.

This beautiful lady we met in Taco Bells near Hilton. She told us she had an Italian Fiancee so was very experienced at taking it up the ass.

My friend and I were not so experienced but eventually succeeded in me fucking her in the ass and he fucking her in her pussy. The orgy did not last very long as I got so excited that I shot my load almost immediately. It was the first time, in 50 years, that I was up a girls asshole.[/QUOTE]Double penetration, and only 2 pictures!

What happened?

BL

[QUOTE=FoxesHunter; 1264090]Hi friends, I will have 2 free weeks and I'd like to spend this time in Nairobi and Mombasa.

I hope I don't make a mistake to slpit 14 days in two towns.

I'd like to know:

1) Can you suggest a good but no expensive apartment with kitchen in Nairobi?

2) How much is more expensive for linving Nairobi than Mombasa?

3) What difference about Nairobi and Mombasa girls?

Thanks or clearing my ideas.[/QUOTE]I have been coming to Nairobi and Mombasa now for over 20 years and have seen a lot of changes. And I will try to answer your questions as best I can.

1. Best I can think of is the Kivi Millimani for good value apartments. Better to wait untill you get to Nairobi and then go and negotiate a price with them. They are a litte shabby but then most accommodation in Nairobi is the same. Nearby is the Comfort Hotel apartments. Try them also. Stay in Parkside Hotel while you are searching and negotiating.

2. Nairobi is more expensive.

3. Mombasa girls are better and there are so many. Finding a jewel in Nairobi can be difficult these days.

[QUOTE=Donnachaa;1264476]Finding a jewel in Nairobi can be difficult these days.[/QUOTE]So true. I'd never waste my time or money there again.

[url]http://www.nairobiraha.com/[/url]

Sweet 24 year old Nairobi pussy. I was there many times.

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1267113][url]http://www.nairobiraha.com/[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks williyboy,

For those of you who have tried nairobiraha, are the pics reliable?

Or are you going to call a hot chick and endup with a granny at your?

[QUOTE=Norweez; 1267846]Thanks williyboy,

For those of you who have tried nairobiraha, are the pics reliable?

Or are you going to call a hot chick and endup with a granny at your?[/QUOTE]My hotelroomclaener was calling this girls for information. About prices end places where this girls staying. It was always in lowcost hotels. Prices always 1500 all-in. I was visit one girl in bilmans hotel. But want 2k, in telefon. It was 1500. I say goodbay.

I think that you not will have problem with this system. You can invite to your hotel (same price).

Try to laern in kenya. 1h is 1k, night 2k.

[QUOTE=Willyboy; 1267852]My hotelroomclaener was calling this girls for information. About prices end places where this girls staying. It was always in lowcost hotels. Prices always 1500 all-in. I was visit one girl in bilmans hotel. But want 2k, in telefon. It was 1500. I say goodbay.

I think that you not will have problem with this system. You can invite to your hotel (same price).

Try to laern in kenya. 1h is 1k, night 2k.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the prices, what I want to know is:

Are the pictures the same as the girls or are the girls putting fake pictures on the site?

Some of those girls seem too hot to be true.

[QUOTE=Willyboy; 1267852]My hotelroomclaener was calling this girls for information. About prices end places where this girls staying. It was always in lowcost hotels. Prices always 1500 all-in. I was visit one girl in bilmans hotel. But want 2k, in telefon. It was 1500. I say goodbay.

I think that you not will have problem with this system. You can invite to your hotel (same price).

Try to laern in kenya. 1h is 1k, night 2k.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the prices, what I want to know is:

Are the pictures the same as the girls or are the girls putting fake pictures on the site?

Some of those girls seem too hot to be true.

[QUOTE=Norweez; 1268191]Thanks for the prices, what I want to know is:

Are the pictures the same as the girls or are the girls putting fake pictures on the site?

Some of those girls seem too hot to be true.[/QUOTE]I not run in Nairobi to check up that every photo is real or not. I will spend my time for Adder thanks.

Thanks for undestanding

I'm new here, I will mention that I am a lady, but I have noticed by reading threads here that most of you are ridiculously cheap. Is this what this it is all about? Cheap hotels, cheap sex.

[QUOTE=Wambomilly;1270419]I'm new here, I will mention that I am a lady, but I have noticed by reading threads here that most of you are ridiculously cheap. Is this what this it is all about? Cheap hotels, cheap sex.[/QUOTE]Yes that's right. And your point is?

What do you want us to pay for sex in Kenya? 100 times more than the locals? Go figure why we travel all the way to kenya.

[QUOTE=Wambomilly;1270419]I'm new here, I will mention that I am a lady, but I have noticed by reading threads here that most of you are ridiculously cheap. Is this what this it is all about? Cheap hotels, cheap sex.[/QUOTE]In places where you can but cola-cola en fanta stay. Only 25 ksh / WHY TO PAY MORE. Maby you giving always 100ksh end say. Keep the rest?

Is it possible to get a VISA on arrival (when you arrive at Nairobi airport)?

[QUOTE=Wambomilly;1270419]I'm new here, I will mention that I am a lady, but I have noticed by reading threads here that most of you are ridiculously cheap. Is this what this it is all about? Cheap hotels, cheap sex.[/QUOTE]Cheap hotels, cheap sex, great sex.

[QUOTE=Asddsaarg;1271148]Is it possible to get a VISA on arrival (when you arrive at Nairobi airport)?[/QUOTE]Just make sure you have proof of yellow fever vaccination, which seems to be randomly screened.

[QUOTE=WombToTomb;1271360]Just make sure you have proof of yellow fever vaccination, which seems to be randomly screened.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Should I have anything more? Any other vaccination proof? Insurance?

[QUOTE=WombToTomb;1271360]Just make sure you have proof of yellow fever vaccination, which seems to be randomly screened.[/QUOTE]This is not correckt answer. From EU countrys. You need not vactination card. I thoke about non stop flys from EU.

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1271666]This is not correckt answer. From EU countrys. You need not vactination card. I thoke about non stop flys from EU.[/QUOTE][url]Http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/destinations/kenya.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1271666]This is not correckt answer. From EU countrys. You need not vactination card. I thoke about non stop flys from EU.[/QUOTE]Yes I confirm. No yellow fever vaccination when coming from EU countries.

Hey everyone, I was in Nairobi this week and I made a nice discovery that local mongers obviously know but visitors like me might be interested in. In order to discover nice places in this jewel city, I decided several months to hunt for a girlfriend on Afro. Afro is a great site for that. So easy. One just need to pay attention: stunners are I usually WG. Real non-pro are in the middle range which is fine for me as I have always been disappointed by 'models'; their natural appealing tend to spoil them: they are usually lazy not eager to please. Mid range girl are usually much more motivated. Joan matches perfectly this profile. I met her in Feb during my previous visit and this time was the real one: one full week during which my objectives were 1) explore the Joan in depth 2) discover Nairobi night life through her. I must say that if these objectives were in my business plan then I would have get 100% of my bonus ehehe. After 2 months of passionate email exchange, Joan was hot like a jiko. First thing she asked me was to shave her bikini line and then everything went crescendo. Night cessions never lasted less than two hours. The only disappointment was the threesome she escaped from but at the end that was not a bid deal (sorry for the ISG fellows who kindly offered me their help). More important for you is the place Joan brought me in: the Black Diamond in Westand. This is a bar / club where people – locals and westerners – come. Packed from Thursday when a band plays live music. There is a terrace and a room inside. Excellent atmosphere I must say. I went there with Joan on Thursday night and I have to say that I have rarely seen such a concentration of hot chicks. Amazing! The bad thing is that I was with my girlfriend so I decided next time to go on my own to explore further this wonderland. Does anybody knows this place and wants to exchange information?

Hi Sam,

Just returned from my one week Nairobi trip. Meanwhile I knowthe city quite well.

In fact, Black diamond is my favourite too, stayed there two times last week, Also nice: 1. Havanna, restaurant + club, sometimes live bands, just around corner; 2. Gypsies, restaurant + club, + Italian + Argentinian restaurants nearby. 3. If you want to impress your lady: Sankara roof top terrace, exclusive. Last week was a bit rainy.

Girls you find allover in these places; if interested in pros: Florida 2000 in City center. My viewpoint: Nairobi is a paradise for guys like us.

I spent whole week with my girl I met via a dating site. Was second time I met her. She was hot and horny from the first hour, email exchange the weeks before incresed her enthusiasm.

However there are so many girls, maybe next time I give the privilege to another girl.

Dating sites such as Afro* are usually a great source for contacts with African ladies (many of them no-pro, some of them trying to sell safaris.). Not just the ladies are stunning, but also the price for premium membership (*introductions for example 29, 90 USD or 24, 90 Euro for 1 month).

The price for Kenias is only KSK 1. 500 (+ approx. USD 18- payment through credit card) = much less than the price maintained in muzungu lands.

You can profit from the "local rate" by making yourself a local. Just enter temporarily as your residence Kenia and upgrade on the site. You will be offered a price of KSK 1. 500. Whether your creditcard company will process a Kenian billing address I do not know, but I have got also on my last visit to Nairobi a Kenian Safaricom Debit Card and it worked.

[QUOTE=Traveller EU; 1271832]Hi Sam,

Just returned from my one week Nairobi trip. Meanwhile I knowthe city quite well.[/QUOTE]Traveller. Do you use hotels?

Whats your recommendation for somewhere to stay? I thought Chester House poor value, and didn't like the "tower block" vibe. Looking for girl-friendly, good value, safe etc.

Looks like the Comfort Hotel (not the similar name Comfort apartments furthe away from cbd) will do the trick. 37euro a night OK.

Last time I was in Nairobi, i found the action a bit slow. I was in Koinange Street and Simmers. I'm happy to explore to get a more "local" flavour. Anyone there over weekend 12-13 may?

[QUOTE=Biffa; 1273890]Traveller. Do you use hotels?

Whats your recommendation for somewhere to stay? I thought Chester House poor value, and didn't like the "tower block" vibe. Looking for girl-friendly, good value, safe etc.

Looks like the Comfort Hotel (not the similar name Comfort apartments furthe away from cbd) will do the trick. 37euro a night OK.

Last time I was in Nairobi, I found the action a bit slow. I was in Koinange Street and Simmers. I'm happy to explore to get a more "local" flavour. Anyone there over weekend 12-13 may?[/QUOTE]Most of the time I stay in upmarket hotels. My trips are business trips. I always book a double room and in all the hotels I have never had any problems, even when "changing" to another girl. I like the tall and slim ones, so they may have a similar look (LOL). Comfort hotel is okay.

Simmers is an open air "marketplace for Pros". Actually you can go to every coffeeshop or restaurant and start hunting.

If you do not mind simplicity (1 to 2 star hotels) , I recommend the Eureka Highrise Hotel on Tom-Mboya Street (close to the national archives). The reception is on the third floor, and the hotel seems to be serious (I'd check, VAT receipt etc.). Never had problems with theft in the room (notebook etc.). Price 1. 500 KSH single. 2.500 KSH double. Disadvantage: noisy during night. On the first floor is a drinking cum brothel (Sabina Joy) , only accessible through the Moi Ave. The pub Eureka Bar is a good place to meet Kenyans having a drink after work and later in the night free-lancers. Florida 2000 is in walking distance and you do not need a taxi.

I spent a night in eureka 3 days ago. They gave me a cheaper price: 1200 single. 2000 double. Don't take a room on the 6th or 5th floor, they have no water there. And don't take a room facing the yard, too much noise.

[QUOTE=Amazonaslife;1274177]If you do not mind simplicity (1 to 2 star hotels) , I recommend the Eureka Highrise Hotel on Tom-Mboya Street (close to the national archives). The reception is on the third floor, and the hotel seems to be serious (I'd check, VAT receipt etc.). Never had problems with theft in the room (notebook etc.). Price 1. 500 KSH single. 2.500 KSH double. Disadvantage: noisy during night. On the first floor is a drinking cum brothel (Sabina Joy) , only accessible through the Moi Ave. The pub Eureka Bar is a good place to meet Kenyans having a drink after work and later in the night free-lancers. Florida 2000 is in walking distance and you do not need a taxi.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Amazonaslife;1274177]If you do not mind simplicity (1 to 2 star hotels) , I recommend the Eureka Highrise Hotel on Tom-Mboya Street (close to the national archives). The reception is on the third floor, and the hotel seems to be serious (I'd check, VAT receipt etc.). Never had problems with theft in the room (notebook etc.). Price 1. 500 KSH single. 2.500 KSH double. Disadvantage: noisy during night. On the first floor is a drinking cum brothel (Sabina Joy) , only accessible through the Moi Ave. The pub Eureka Bar is a good place to meet Kenyans having a drink after work and later in the night free-lancers. Florida 2000 is in walking distance and you do not need a taxi.[/QUOTE]Amazonaslife, just a few questions about Eureka Highrise if you don't mind:

You mention that the reception is serious, I. Sd there any hassle bringing girls inn?

Do you have to get a double room for guests or can you pay a fee for a guest?

Since the reception is on the 3rd floor, can it be bypassed completely by going straight to the rooms in upper floors?

Is it easy to get girls from the brothel straight to the hotel?

Other than it being a 2 star hotel, it sounds great.

[QUOTE=Amazonaslife;1274177]If you do not mind simplicity (1 to 2 star hotels) , I recommend the Eureka Highrise Hotel on Tom-Mboya Street (close to the national archives). The reception is on the third floor, and the hotel seems to be serious (I'd check, VAT receipt etc.). Never had problems with theft in the room (notebook etc.). Price 1. 500 KSH single. 2.500 KSH double. Disadvantage: noisy during night. On the first floor is a drinking cum brothel (Sabina Joy) , only accessible through the Moi Ave. The pub Eureka Bar is a good place to meet Kenyans having a drink after work and later in the night free-lancers. Florida 2000 is in walking distance and you do not need a taxi.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I vaguely remember tom mboya street. Actually I was looking for the sabina joy pub. Got close but couldn't locate it. On reflection I think its where the larger buses park. Loads people and noise plenty of bars not so many streetwalkers as I recall at about 8-9-ish in the evening. My first trip to nairobi and I was getting my bearings. Ended up in simmers.

[QUOTE=Biffa;1274869]Thanks. I vaguely remember tom mboya street. Actually I was looking for the sabina joy pub. Got close but couldn't locate it. On reflection I think its where the larger buses park. Loads people and noise plenty of bars not so many streetwalkers as I recall at about 8-9-ish in the evening. My first trip to nairobi and I was getting my bearings. Ended up in simmers.[/QUOTE]Can't seem to edit my post. So reply it is then.

Anyone want to meet up Sunday 13th, or Monday 14th in Nairobi? Best monger locations for a Monday in Nairobi? I have a few days to spare before flying to Addis Ababa (another hotter than hot hotspot).

Thinking of going back to Mtwapa near Mombassa, but not sure the journey's worth it. Want to find out how good Nairobi is first. Been once before for one night, didn't see as many SW's as expected. I was looking in Koinange Street. Where are the other areas? Lets make this clear I want to have sex. I don't want to spend all evening in a bar pretending to chat up a hooker.

Previous poster mentioned a bar cum brothel Sabina Joy, any other recommends for that kind of dive bar? I'm familiar with Simmers, Florida, MadHouse and the Black diamonds disco place from reports.

What I want to find is the local, bar-cum-brothel's. As I said I don't want a GFE I want a pussy-hole for 2 or 3 hours, young, clean, healthy, with big tits and an understanding she's there to help.

The Comfort Hotel looks cheap and safe, so I'll give it a try. Looks like I'll be better off negotiating a price on arrival, as the online price seems high. To the poster earlier who asked if all this forum is about is Cheap Hetels and Cheap Sex, the answer can be found in the above post. Sorry if its spoiled the magic for you.

They have a bug allow to download the full chapter instead of preview. Its include maps, hotels etc. They will fix the problem soon.

[url]http://shop.lonelyplanet.com/kenya/kenya-travel-guide-8/kenya-nairobi-chapter-8/[/url]

Click on preview the chapter and you will get all of it.

[QUOTE=John Palmer; 1275898]They have a bug allow to download the full chapter instead of preview. Its include maps, hotels etc. They will fix the problem soon.

[url]http://shop.lonelyplanet.com/kenya/kenya-travel-guide-8/kenya-nairobi-chapter-8/[/url]

Click on preview the chapter and you will get all of it.[/QUOTE]Great Work John. Well Done. Invaluable and Free.

[QUOTE=Donnachaa;1276005]Great Work John. Well Done. Invaluable and Free.[/QUOTE]Yes, second that, just read it cover to cover.

Getting the impression they like the River Road area for Bars. Any monger action?

[QUOTE=Biffa;1276029]Getting the impression they like the River Road area for Bars. Any monger action?[/QUOTE]Yes, but typically for locals only. Dicey area. If you choose to partake, sure hope you make friends easily.

[QUOTE=John Palmer; 1275898]They have a bug allow to download the full chapter instead of preview. Its include maps, hotels etc. They will fix the problem soon.

[url]http://shop.lonelyplanet.com/kenya/kenya-travel-guide-8/kenya-nairobi-chapter-8/[/url]

Click on preview the chapter and you will get all of it.[/QUOTE]Thank you Sir,

I will be there in just a few days now. (My FIRST visit!)

I am rather looking forward to it.

Hotman.

[QUOTE=Coalburner69;1276096]Yes, but typically for locals only. Dicey area. If you choose to partake, sure hope you make friends easily.[/QUOTE]Fairly easily. Specially the ladies.

How dicey, comparatively speaking? How does the dicey-ness manifest itself?

I do monger on my own. I like it that way. I can hold my beer and I'm not frightened of the usual shebeens, I wouldn't go anywhere thats so dark I can't see who's approaching. I wouldn't follow ladies down very dark allies, suspecting her brothers will get the drop on me. I don't carry valuables and I have 20 dollars in my socks if the worst comes to the worst.

Roughest I've seen is "Chechnya" in Addis in Ethiopia. I've had to toss vagabonds out of bars after they tried to put hands in my pockets.

Reason I keep asking is I was disappointed by the streetwalker count in Koinange Street on my last visit. I was down the Simmers, Chester House end, so maybe I wasn't looking in the right places? Hence my desire to find some target-rich environment.

Just back from Mtwapa. The place was cool, but probably due to low season, I have not seen really beautiful girls. Lots of fat.

Now in Nairobi, I took a slim beautiful girl from Madhouse (lots of fat there too). Gave her 1500 for a shirt time, she was quiet angry and tried to get more but I didn't give up. Decided not to go back.

I switched on to Tagged. I was quiet surprised by the low reply rate, given the fact I'm 30 and not bad looking at all. Met several girls, but had sex only with one of them. 2 of them didn't want to make love and another 3. I didn't want to. Decided to forget about Tagged, 'cause many of the girls look beautiful on the photos but not in the real life, lots of time and money lost for nothing.

Today switched to a street hunting. I target only beautiful girls in uptown / downtown. Up to now: Approached 1 beauty who turned out to be an air hostess, she didn't seem to be interested at all. Two other girls just snobbed me in a really bad way. I was polite. Many girls just walk with a 'don't bother me' look and don't smile back. Kind of surprised. I will continue anyway.

I would appreciate if someone gave advice on where and how it's better to approach girls in Nairobi during DAYTIME, up to 9pm. The fact is night hunting is not for me.

By the way, uptown / downtown seem to be secure untill 11pm, I've never taken a taxi. Hope nothing bad will happen.

If someone wants to join my street hunting, just pm me.

[QUOTE=Afaire;1279816]I would appreciate if someone gave advice on where and how it's better to approach girls in Nairobi during DAYTIME, up to 9pm. The fact is night hunting is not for me.[/QUOTE]Nairobi is a city good for Business man. You can get very frustrated while girls will trick you. Move to kampala uganda, sign to Afro dating and adopt multy strategy instead of switching between them. Trust me you will get more sex then you can dream without the frustration. Nairobi and its girls is like a casino, they always win.

[QUOTE=Biffa;1276406]How does the dicey-ness manifest itself?[/QUOTE]In the usual African way. You would (could) be followed (in numbers) and mugged. Possibly even killed. If you do elect to go, at the bare minimum, have a dedicated driver who waits for you outside of each establishment. Avoid walking. Even short distances.

[QUOTE=Afaire; 1279816]Just back from Mtwapa. The place was cool, but probably due to low season, I have not seen really beautiful girls. Lots of fat.

Now in Nairobi, I took a slim beautiful girl from Madhouse (lots of fat there too). Gave her 1500 for a shirt time, she was quiet angry and tried to get more but I didn't give up. Decided not to go back.

I switched on to Tagged. I was quiet surprised by the low reply rate, given the fact I'm 30 and not bad looking at all. Met several girls, but had sex only with one of them. 2 of them didn't want to make love and another 3. I didn't want to. Decided to forget about Tagged, 'cause many of the girls look beautiful on the photos but not in the real life, lots of time and money lost for nothing.

Today switched to a street hunting. I target only beautiful girls in uptown / downtown. Up to now: Approached 1 beauty who turned out to be an air hostess, she didn't seem to be interested at all. Two other girls just snobbed me in a really bad way. I was polite. Many girls just walk with a 'don't bother me' look and don't smile back. Kind of surprised. I will continue anyway.

I would appreciate if someone gave advice on where and how it's better to approach girls in Nairobi during DAYTIME, up to 9pm. The fact is night hunting is not for me.

By the way, uptown / downtown seem to be secure untill 11pm, I've never taken a taxi. Hope nothing bad will happen.

If someone wants to join my street hunting, just pm me.[/QUOTE]Welcome to Nairobi. Sadly your 'first impressions' of the city might be the ones you leave with. As you're finding out, the mongering options there are limited and are almost non-existent during the daytime.

I could sit here and give you some other daytime suggestions like malls, cellphone shops, universities, etc, but the results would probably be no better than what you're currently doing.

In Hindsight, the on-line thing probably would have been your best bet had you started it in advance of your trip and had used other sites in addition to Tagged, like Afrointroductions and maybe Afrogems.

I don't know how much time you have left on your trip, but if I were you, I'd be on the next Fly540 flight to Kampala.

Coalburner69 and John Palmer,

Thanks for your advice. I think I've been misleaded by some posts about how easy it's to get non-pros in Nairobi.

Today I continued my quest, one more girl snobbed me (I start to hate it) , the second one was nice, we had a tea but she was too shy to do anything so I quit. And the only one who was really nice and also beautiful turned out to be from Rwanda. I'm meeting her tomorrow.

By the way she said she really doesn't like Kenya, she said these are people without heart. She told me to go to Rwanda, Tanzania or Uganda.

So I think I will probably follow your advice. But I don't know if I can fly to uganda from kenya without a yellow fever certificate.

So, you are saying women are sweeter and nicer in Uganda? I know, Africa is not for romantic people, but since one month in Kenya I really start to feel some kind of hunger for tenderness.

[QUOTE=Biffa;1270797]Yes that's right. And your point is?[/QUOTE]My point 'Biffa" is I thought that I could have used this as a means of meeting men but why'all are not even close to meeting my standards.

[QUOTE=Afaire; 1279816].

Today switched to a street hunting. I target only beautiful girls in uptown / downtown. Up to now: Approached 1 beauty who turned out to be an air hostess, she didn't seem to be interested at all. Two other girls just snobbed me in a really bad way. I was polite. Many girls just walk with a 'don't bother me' look and don't smile back. Kind of surprised. I will continue anyway.[/QUOTE]Weird guy hitting in women on main street gets snubbed. Well. What do you expect? You seem to think you are god's gift to woman-kind. Maybe, just maybe, the women you are hassling have full lives and don't want to be bothered by some guy when they are trying to go about their business.

Grow up.

This message applies to a lot of guys on this board. Is it easier to pick up women in East Africa compared to the States or Europe? Yes. Are there numerous reasons for this? Yes. Does that mean that every woman you think is sexy enough is immediately going to go back to your cheap hotel room and give you a blow job? [blue][Racial Epithet(s) Deleted by Admin][/blue]

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was edited in accordance with the Forum's Zero Tolerance policy regarding reports containing [u]racial epithets[/u].[/blue]

[QUOTE=Afaire;1280328]So, you are saying women are sweeter and nicer in Uganda? .[/QUOTE]Yes! Kenya ladies are Business oriented. Uganda is more like the "real africa". I am about to buy a ticket for July.

No yellow card are required.

[QUOTE=Afaire; 1280328]Coalburner69 and John Palmer,

Thanks for your advice. I think I've been misleaded by some posts about how easy it's to get non-pros in Nairobi.

Today I continued my quest, one more girl snobbed me (I start to hate it) , the second one was nice, we had a tea but she was too shy to do anything so I quit. And the only one who was really nice and also beautiful turned out to be from Rwanda. I'm meeting her tomorrow.

By the way she said she really doesn't like Kenya, she said these are people without heart. She told me to go to Rwanda, Tanzania or Uganda.

So I think I will probably follow your advice. But I don't know if I can fly to uganda from kenya without a yellow fever certificate.

So, you are saying women are sweeter and nicer in Uganda? I know, Africa is not for romantic people, but since one month in Kenya I really start to feel some kind of hunger for tenderness.[/QUOTE]Yes, you have indeed been mislead. Most recently, by that Kenyan girl who recommended Rwanda and Tanzania, Nevertheless, you can still change your situation in just one day should you elect to do so.

You can make a same day booking on fly540 from NBO to EBB (Entebbe, Uganda) for $145 USD. It's less than a hour flight. When you arrive, there's a $50 USD visa fee (good up to 90 days) and they will not ask you for a yellow fever cert. At least that's my experience. If, for some unforeseen reason they do, a small bribe will sort that out in short order.

Upon exiting the terminal, negotiate a 50k shs (about $20 USD) taxi ride into Kampala (about 45mins). There are many hotel options there and reservations are rarely required. For hotel and entertainment info you can peruse the Uganda thread on this site.

You've demonstrated the ability to approach girls and withstand rejection. Don't lose this ability now. Yes, the women are sweeter and nicer in Uganda, but in non-pro settings you will still have to be the aggressor, but you will achieve better results. Guaranteed.

Stop wasting time pounding the pavement in Nairobi. Book your ticket to Uganda now and spend your remaining time there on your laptop or at the internet cafe getting contact numbers in Kampala from the sites previously mentioned.

Get-er-done!

[QUOTE=Afaire; 1279816]Just back from Mtwapa. The place was cool, but probably due to low season, I have not seen really beautiful girls. Lots of fat.

Now in Nairobi, I took a slim beautiful girl from Madhouse (lots of fat there too). Gave her 1500 for a shirt time, she was quiet angry and tried to get more but I didn't give up. Decided not to go back.

I switched on to Tagged. I was quiet surprised by the low reply rate, given the fact I'm 30 and not bad looking at all. Met several girls, but had sex only with one of them. 2 of them didn't want to make love and another 3. I didn't want to. Decided to forget about Tagged, 'cause many of the girls look beautiful on the photos but not in the real life, lots of time and money lost for nothing.

Today switched to a street hunting. I target only beautiful girls in uptown / downtown. Up to now: Approached 1 beauty who turned out to be an air hostess, she didn't seem to be interested at all. Two other girls just snobbed me in a really bad way. I was polite. Many girls just walk with a 'don't bother me' look and don't smile back. Kind of surprised. I will continue anyway.

I would appreciate if someone gave advice on where and how it's better to approach girls in Nairobi during DAYTIME, up to 9pm. The fact is night hunting is not for me.

By the way, uptown / downtown seem to be secure untill 11pm, I've never taken a taxi. Hope nothing bad will happen.

If someone wants to join my street hunting, just pm me.[/QUOTE]I usually take phone #'s in night and than meet them during day time. Most of the time I will collect 10 phone #'s and used it for next couple of weeks. During day time the charges are low but they are more chances of no show.

[QUOTE=Afaire; 1280328]Coalburner69 and John Palmer,

Thanks for your advice. I think I've been misleaded by some posts about how easy it's to get non-pros in Nairobi.

Today I continued my quest, one more girl snobbed me (I start to hate it) , the second one was nice, we had a tea but she was too shy to do anything so I quit. And the only one who was really nice and also beautiful turned out to be from Rwanda. I'm meeting her tomorrow.

By the way she said she really doesn't like Kenya, she said these are people without heart. She told me to go to Rwanda, Tanzania or Uganda.

So I think I will probably follow your advice. But I don't know if I can fly to uganda from kenya without a yellow fever certificate.

So, you are saying women are sweeter and nicer in Uganda? I know, Africa is not for romantic people, but since one month in Kenya I really start to feel some kind of hunger for tenderness.[/QUOTE]So what I gather from this post is that you are looking for a non-pro, well there are plenty. But a non pro will not jump in to bed with every guy that smiles at her. Rejection happens anywhere, you are probably two times the age of the girl that snobbed you. You should accept that. It will most likely happen in the rest of the East African countries. Hell even a pro would probably snobb you given how cheap the men here are. I can personally spot a cheap guy within minutes of sighting. About your rwandese girl, what is she doing here if she hates it so much here. You can not expect to find romance here when you are willing to jump in bed on the first date, it goes both ways. I would assume you are a man working girl and treat you as such. Unless I have known you for a while on the internet. When you have a connection with a Kenyan girl, you will have the best romance and sex you can ever get. So if you can't handle rejection, go to florida and be willing to part with a few thousand, then you will recieve fake "tenderness".

[QUOTE=Addis Alem; 1280494]Weird guy hitting in women on main street gets snubbed. Well. What do you expect? You seem to think you are god's gift to woman-kind. Maybe, just maybe, the women you are hassling have full lives and don't want to be bothered by some guy when they are trying to go about their business.

Grow up.

This message applies to a lot of guys on this board. Is it easier to pick up women in East Africa compared to the States or Europe? Yes. Are there numerous reasons for this? Yes. Does that mean that every woman you think is sexy enough is immediately going to go back to your cheap hotel room and give you a blow job? [blue][Racial Epithet (s) Deleted by Admin][/blue]

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was edited in accordance with the Forum's Zero Tolerance policy regarding reports containing [u]racial epithets[/u]. [/blue][/QUOTE]Thank you Addis Alem, for telling it as it is.

[QUOTE=Wambomilly;1280806]Thank you Addis Alem, for telling it as it is.[/QUOTE]Telling it as it is? Stick to what you both know. This isn't the fucking Kibera thread.

[QUOTE=Coalburner69;1280935]Telling it as it is? Stick to what you both know. This isn't the fucking Kibera thread.[/QUOTE]So you are going to call this the kibera thread just because we told you the plain truth? If that makes you feel better then by all means call it whatever you want. The message remains the same.

Flew in to Nairobbery yesterday.

Kenya Comfort Hotel better value than Chester House. I got the "superior" (how?) room with AC and Flat screen, although its the usual cack on the TV to watch.

Rooms noisy from the street. Next time I'm going to ask for room 605 its away from street and bigger than rest.

Next to the Kenya Comfort is a large 24hr supermarket with a phone shop attached. Got a safaricom sim and airtime for pennies. Bought a 250mb data pack as well, but can't make it work on my smartphone. Ah well.

Took a look round Koinange Street, pretty quiet on Sunday, Simmers very quiet early in the evening. Went on the Sabina Joy, near the national archives on Tom Mboya street.

Its been described as a bar-come-brothel, which is a bit generous as its a brothel-cum-brothel really. As ever the hookers are loud, aggressive and paw customers a lot, so watch your valuables. In fact leave your valuables at home.

Ho's line the corridors up to the 2nd floor grabbing at customers as they pass. Drunken Kenyans stumble around. The music is loud. The whole place smells of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url].

Took a twenty year old sweet looker, with nice titties, didn't catch her name Poolish or something. Thinking I could bring other girls back I paid 700 for the "nice" rooms "for the night", which were hellish, makes me wonder how bad the short time rooms (250ks) were. Sink and taps were without water. In fact the whole building was without water hence the aromas I guess.

Poolish offered shorttime for 1, 000 ks, or "everything" for 2, 000, keen to findout what everything was I paid extra. Turns out its a blow job and massage extra. Blow jobs are not common in Africa. Probably because of the stinky nature of unwashed african cocks. So don't take it personal if she doesn't gobble.

I was too tired to make it too Black Diamonds afterwards, my original plan, so I stopped in at Simmers for a nightcap. Met Ivonne who looked good had nice hair etc, age 23, she asked a laughable 5, 000 for long time, I countered with 1, 000 and she acted offended. I should have left her there, but we agreed on massage and sex for 2, 000 (its my first night I know the real price is closer to 1, 000 but I was exhausted and needed her services.) As it was later in the evening plenty of other agressive dangerous looking street girls were circling the roads outside Simmers. When we got back to Comfort. They checked her EyeDee (sorry the website spelling nazi changes it if I type I'd) and signed her in etc. Then the games started. Actually she was good in the shower, we had a good penetrative fuck, but then she started the upsell for the massage and I knew she wasn't going to provide any value whatsover. As we had agreed a previous price I was pissed with her, I said 1500 for services rendered, then she wouldn't leave the room, just stood around naked on the phone talking to her friends etc. Finally I got cross threw her clothes out the room and told her to leave.

No avail. She stayed. Naked, yapping on the phone. Weird plan I thought. The room phone didn't work for hotel security, so I figured "Fuck it we're arguing over £3", so I showed her the 2k and and she got dressed and left, cursing my cheapness. I'm a bad man, apparently. She was a waste of effort in my opinion, no photos unfortunately, just avoid a girl with big hair called Ivonne who claims to have a job in wine and drinks industry from Simmers as she is part Hoe, part con artist, all upseller and truly believes her bony ass is worth 5, 000 shillings a pop.

Ah well, better luck tonight, off to find a steakhouse called Porterhouse (google it if you want to know more) load up on red meat (you know why) and off to Black Diamonds to get something a little more submissive than last nights effort. I'm thinking this should be a big titty night.

[QUOTE=Biffa; 1281104]Flew in to Nairobbery yesterday.

Kenya Comfort Hotel better value than Chester House. I got the "superior" (how?) room with AC and Flat screen, although its the usual cack on the TV to watch.

Rooms noisy from the street. Next time I'm going to ask for room 605 its away from street and bigger than rest.

Next to the Kenya Comfort is a large 24hr supermarket with a phone shop attached. Got a safaricom sim and airtime for pennies. Bought a 250mb data pack as well, but can't make it work on my smartphone. Ah well.

Took a look round Koinange Street, pretty quiet on Sunday, Simmers very quiet early in the evening. Went on the Sabina Joy, near the national archives on Tom Mboya street.

Its been described as a bar-come-brothel, which is a bit generous as its a brothel-cum-brothel really. As ever the hookers are loud, aggressive and paw customers a lot, so watch your valuables. In fact leave your valuables at home.

Ho's line the corridors up to the 2nd floor grabbing at customers as they pass. Drunken Kenyans stumble around. The music is loud. The whole place smells of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url].

Took a twenty year old sweet looker, with nice titties, didn't catch her name Poolish or something. Thinking I could bring other girls back I paid 700 for the "nice" rooms "for the night", which were hellish, makes me wonder how bad the short time rooms (250ks) were. Sink and taps were without water. In fact the whole building was without water hence the aromas I guess.

Poolish offered shorttime for 1, 000 ks, or "everything" for 2, 000, keen to findout what everything was I paid extra. Turns out its a blow job and massage extra. Blow jobs are not common in Africa. Probably because of the stinky nature of unwashed african cocks. So don't take it personal if she doesn't gobble.

I was too tired to make it too Black Diamonds afterwards, my original plan, so I stopped in at Simmers for a nightcap. Met Ivonne who looked good had nice hair etc, age 23, she asked a laughable 5, 000 for long time, I countered with 1, 000 and she acted offended. I should have left her there, but we agreed on massage and sex for 2, 000 (its my first night I know the real price is closer to 1, 000 but I was exhausted and needed her services.) As it was later in the evening plenty of other agressive dangerous looking street girls were circling the roads outside Simmers. When we got back to Comfort. They checked her EyeDee (sorry the website spelling nazi changes it if I type I'd) and signed her in etc. Then the games started. Actually she was good in the shower, we had a good penetrative fuck, but then she started the upsell for the massage and I knew she wasn't going to provide any value whatsover. As we had agreed a previous price I was pissed with her, I said 1500 for services rendered, then she wouldn't leave the room, just stood around naked on the phone talking to her friends etc. Finally I got cross threw her clothes out the room and told her to leave.

No avail. She stayed. Naked, yapping on the phone. Weird plan I thought. The room phone didn't work for hotel security, so I figured "Fuck it we're arguing over £3", so I showed her the 2k and and she got dressed and left, cursing my cheapness. I'm a bad man, apparently. She was a waste of effort in my opinion, no photos unfortunately, just avoid a girl with big hair called Ivonne who claims to have a job in wine and drinks industry from Simmers as she is part Hoe, part con artist, all upseller and truly believes her bony ass is worth 5, 000 shillings a pop.

Ah well, better luck tonight, off to find a steakhouse called Porterhouse (google it if you want to know more) load up on red meat (you know why) and off to Black Diamonds to get something a little more submissive than last nights effort. I'm thinking this should be a big titty night.[/QUOTE]The steakhouse was shit.

[QUOTE=Biffa; 1281104]Flew in to Nairobbery yesterday.

Kenya Comfort Hotel better value than Chester House. I got the "superior" (how?) room with AC and Flat screen, although its the usual cack on the TV to watch.

Be a big titty night.[/QUOTE]Did you actually go to Sabina Joy? Can't remember the last time I was there. Must have been 19.

1st of, don't go there. That is the lowest form of mongering you can get in Nairobi. There are quite a bit of safer options. Kes. 2,000 was a rip off there. That's what you'd pay for a girl from Simmers.

I'm Kenyan yes, and I have been around all these places. But from your posts, I can see you know your way around.

[QUOTE=Wambomilly;1281025]So you are going to call this the kibera thread just because we told you the plain truth? If that makes you feel better then by all means call it whatever you want. The message remains the same.[/QUOTE]Wambomilly.

Kindly read the guidelines of this website. Its not a dating site, period. If that is what you want there are many alternatives for that. This is a forum where men are looking after women for sex. Whether there are emotions or not. I have not come across any member here who states he's after love.

I read a previous thread where you stated you are a woman (a kenyan). Stop posting about how men in this site are cheap. Are you soliciting for business or what? Why should I pay more if all I want is to get laid. Mind you its a free market. Or else you can establish your own website to advice fellow women how they will get some rich men. Otherwise you are addressing the wrong audience.

[QUOTE=Spartan KE; 1281220]Did you actually go to Sabina Joy? Can't remember the last time I was there. Must have been 19.

1st of, don't go there. That is the lowest form of mongering you can get in Nairobi. There are quite a bit of safer options. Kes. 2,000 was a rip off there. That's what you'd pay for a girl from Simmers.

I'm Kenyan yes, and I have been around all these places. But from your posts, I can see you know your way around.[/QUOTE]Actually yes, twice. First time got the nice but dim Poolish or whatever her name was, second time end of last night, it wasn't so full of ladies (well females anyway).

Last nights fun. After the grim steak at the porterhouse (avoid, its crap) I went out to Black Diamonds in Westlands around 9pm on a Monday. After a bit of humour with the taxi driver (a 24 carat idiot) we found the place. It was stone dead. Obviously. So after a quick beer I walked to Havana bar, much more fun, maybe less mongering, a couple of european backpacking trustafarians, I kicked back, watched some footy, then glory be, I ordered a steak which turned out to be decent, recognisably steak like and pretty tasty.

Still I'm on a mission and can't deviate, so after a couple more tusker malts I headed back to Black Diamonds to see if it livened up a bit. Nope. A bit busier, but still moon like atmosphere.

Went back to my village-idiot taxi driver who was waiting outside. He said he knew a strip joint. I said lets go. Somehow he got on the wrong side of the flyover from Ngara, and we crossed the entire flyover on the wrong side flashing the oncoming traffic. That my friends is the true Africa.

We got to the Lido strip bar somewhere near kirinyaga road, sorry wasn't taking notes as the trauma of the journey hadn't worn off yet.

Actually the girls were hot. The stripper pole was strong enough to accommodate the largest elephant-assed stripper I've ever seen, nice to see bbw african booty shaking its stuff, thats a sight worth seeing. Though they didn't actualy get naked. Private rooms were 3, 000 short time which seems a lot so I gave it a miss.

Taxi driver said it was quiet Monday, so returned to Sabina Joy, looked round, decided there was no Joy and went to, where else, Simmers.

Its like every night I try and avoid the place, every night I end up there. WTF?

Then my luck changed started chatting to a lovely named Rebecca. 19 we hit it off, and took her to the hotel, excellent performance and no attitude, which was nice. Big shapely titties, although there was the usual childbearing damage.

Tonight? Who knows. I have a loaded cock and I'm not afaid to use it.

[QUOTE=Wambomilly;1281025]So you are going to call this the kibera thread just because we told you the plain truth? If that makes you feel better then by all means call it whatever you want. The message remains the same.[/QUOTE]Clearly this one flew over your head.

If there was any "message" to Addis Alem's rant, it was clearly lost among the insults. Same can be said about your posts.

[QUOTE=Rookie25; 1281407]Wambomilly.

Kindly read the guidelines of this website. Its not a dating site, period. If that is what you want there are many alternatives for that. This is a forum where men are looking after women for sex. Whether there are emotions or not. I have not come across any member here who states he's after love.

I read a previous thread where you stated you are a woman (a kenyan). Stop posting about how men in this site are cheap. Are you soliciting for business or what? Why should I pay more if all I want is to get laid. Mind you its a free market. Or else you can establish your own website to advice fellow women how they will get some rich men. Otherwise you are addressing the wrong audience.[/QUOTE]As you clearly know I'm not after love, (Lord knows this would be the last place to find it) I was soliciting for business but unfortunately this is not the right place for my standard. Nevertheless I can still coment and say whatever I want, if you don't want to read it then you don't have to, but in the guidelines, I did not see any rule that says women can't post here.

I do not need your unsolicited advice for alternative dating sites, I know them very well. I live on them.

[QUOTE=Coalburner69; 1281543]Clearly this one flew over your head.

If there was any "message" to Addis Alem's rant, it was clearly lost among the insults. Same can be said about your posts.[/QUOTE]Maybe Addis Alem chooses to express himself in a different manner but my message, yeah message, and his is the same only I do not use insults, just logic and the obvious truth.

[QUOTE=Biffa;1281519]Tonight? Who knows. I have a loaded cock and I'm not afaid to use it.[/QUOTE]Tuesday nights are really good at Pitcher and Butch. Tell your cab guy to take you to K1. 11pm should be fine. I'm not quite sure if it still gets as packed as it used to. It's on Ojijo Road Westlands and there's a Kahamas there too.

The scene is 60% non-pros and 40% mixed race pros. Knowing the difference will be a challenge.

Have a good one.

[QUOTE=Wambomilly;1281552]Maybe Addis Alem chooses to express himself in a different manner but my message, yeah message, and his is the same only I do not use insults, just logic and the obvious truth.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Wambomilly;1281552]ridiculously cheap.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Wambomilly;1281552]we're not even close to meeting your standards.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Wambomilly;1281552]Hell even a pro would probably snobb you given how cheap the men here are.[/QUOTE]You were saying?

[QUOTE=Spartan KE; 1281577]Tuesday nights are really good at Pitcher and Butch. Tell your cab guy to take you to K1. 11pm should be fine. I'm not quite sure if it still gets as packed as it used to. It's on Ojijo Road Westlands and there's a Kahamas there too.

The scene is 60% non-pros and 40% mixed race pros. Knowing the difference will be a challenge.

Have a good one.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing this info with us. Tuesday can be so boring in Nairobi. Will make a great change.

Just back from a brief trip to Nairobi.

My first time in Kenya.

Stayed at the Stanley. GREAT Hotel! (I got a good internet deal.)

Booked a double room including two Breakfast's and had NO problems at all in taking girls back to my room (a different girl every night!)

After the first night got a salute and an envious look from the security guard on my floor as we got out of the lift.

Picking up 'Playmates' in Nairobi is like shooting fish in a barrel! Soooo EASY. Paradise on earth for any guy!

Nairobi girls certainly know how to please a man! I enjoyed EVERY minute,

I WILL return!

ENJOY,

I did.

Hotman.

Where did you pick them up and how much did you pay?

[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1282552]Just back from a brief trip to Nairobi.

My first time in Kenya.

Stayed at the Stanley. GREAT Hotel! (I got a good internet deal.)

Booked a double room including two Breakfast's and had NO problems at all in taking girls back to my room (a different girl every night!)

After the first night got a salute and an envious look from the security guard on my floor as we got out of the lift.

Picking up 'Playmates' in Nairobi is like shooting fish in a barrel! Soooo EASY. Paradise on earth for any guy!

Nairobi girls certainly know how to please a man! I enjoyed EVERY minute,

I WILL return!

ENJOY,

I did.

Hotman.[/QUOTE]

I met a girl on AfroGems and we had a great time. She didn't complain after I gave her 2000 (KsH) for an overnight stay. That is about $25 USD. I also paid for her taxi to and from my place at 1500 KsH. I met this gorgeous hooker at Gypsies but you can tell the difference: AfroGems is better IF you can get a student since they just want fun and cash and don't have children. The hookers seems more desperate and would accept 3000 KsH for a max of 4 hours. Hence, the difference.

[QUOTE=Interracial;1286553]Where did you pick them up and how much did you pay?[/QUOTE]How much? Well, actually I did not pay ANY of them! (They were ALL "Freebie's!")

I posted a couple of local add before I went and had LOADS of replies!

I met Four different girls on different nights and ALL of them stayed overnight with me!

My FAVOURITE one was invited back for a "Replay" on my final night!

Total costs = A meal and a couple of drinks each plus some (Little) gifts that I bought with me from Europe.

Oh yes, I did give each of them some taxi money.

NONE of these were Full Time hookers. All were students / Graduates and were early 20's.

NONE of them EVER asked me for any money and all were more than happy with the "taxi money" that I gave them.

For me, a first timer in Nairobi it was GREAT. I am a big fan of SE Asia and Thailand in particular but I am now seriously thinking of another trip to Kenya later this year.

Or, are there some other African countries that you guys recommend?

Hotman.

[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1289591]How much? Well, actually I did not pay ANY of them! (They were ALL "Freebie's!")

I posted a couple of local add before I went and had LOADS of replies!

Or, are there some other African countries that you guys recommend?

Hotman.[/QUOTE]Ghana is very fun place as well Hotman.

[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1289591]How much? Well, actually I did not pay ANY of them! (They were ALL "Freebie's!")

I posted a couple of local add before I went and had LOADS of replies!

I met Four different girls on different nights and ALL of them stayed overnight with me!

My FAVOURITE one was invited back for a "Replay" on my final night!

Total costs = A meal and a couple of drinks each plus some (Little) gifts that I bought with me from Europe.

Oh yes, I did give each of them some taxi money.

NONE of these were Full Time hookers. All were students / Graduates and were early 20's.

NONE of them EVER asked me for any money and all were more than happy with the "taxi money" that I gave them.

For me, a first timer in Nairobi it was GREAT. I am a big fan of SE Asia and Thailand in particular but I am now seriously thinking of another trip to Kenya later this year.

Or, are there some other African countries that you guys recommend?

Hotman.[/QUOTE]Kenya prostitution is not for free. Stop to write nonsens about TAXI MONEY, presents from europe. All this names is Money.

[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1289591]How much? Well, actually I did not pay ANY of them! (They were ALL "Freebie's!")

I posted a couple of local add before I went and had LOADS of replies!

I met Four different girls on different nights and ALL of them stayed overnight with me!

My FAVOURITE one was invited back for a "Replay" on my final night!

Total costs = A meal and a couple of drinks each plus some (Little) gifts that I bought with me from Europe.

Oh yes, I did give each of them some taxi money.

NONE of these were Full Time hookers. All were students / Graduates and were early 20's.

NONE of them EVER asked me for any money and all were more than happy with the "taxi money" that I gave them.

For me, a first timer in Nairobi it was GREAT. I am a big fan of SE Asia and Thailand in particular but I am now seriously thinking of another trip to Kenya later this year.

Or, are there some other African countries that you guys recommend?

Hotman.[/QUOTE]Stanley hotel cost 200 Euro for one night SINGLE ROOM (with internet booking) This mongers sending poor girls to home with TAXIMONEY

[QUOTE=Sam Suffit;1289612]Ghana is very fun place as well Hotman.[/QUOTE]I agree with Sam about Ghana. Though there are way fewer non-sexual distractions than in Kenya.

Strongly consider Mombasa (especially Mtwapa) as well. A somewhat more "country" (less hard-nosed and city-like) feel than Nairobi.

Fans of Kenya seem to think that Uganda is even more delightful and less hard-core where happy and quality pussy are concerned. I have never been. Check out the Uganda forum.

I will be arriving in Nairobi on the 18th of July for a three day stay. It will be my first time in Africa. I have been doing quite a bit of research on places to stay. The Chester House Apartments seem to lead the way in convenience to hunting grounds. Someone recommended the Mimosa Apartments located south of the Chester House Apts. I have been on AI making some contacts, with ladies named Kate and Marion but I am wondering if it is a good move. I do not want to be tied down for three days with just one lady, on the other hand they can take me around the city, nothing like getting to know a place with a local. My experiences are limited to Thailand, UAE and MX. I love Thailand because of the convenience and the no nonsense approach but I love curvy dark women. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I will add a detailed report of my exploits.

Was a little nervous because of the recent activity, and almost decided to go to Ethiopia but after reading some more decided to keep on track.

Hi Hotman 666, I used to stay in the Stanley a while ago ago and ran into trouble as I only booked a single. At the time of booking a double was twice the price as a single so I thought I could get away by leaving a few nice tips for the staff in and around reception. They were happy to take the tips but still stung me with US100 bill, which they slide under the door 20 mins after I arrived back at the hotel. Since then I refused to use that hotel and have used soem very nice apartments in Westlands instead. They may not have been as comfortable but the added privacy was well appreciated.

[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1282552]Just back from a brief trip to Nairobi.

My first time in Kenya.

Stayed at the Stanley. GREAT Hotel! (I got a good internet deal.)

Booked a double room including two Breakfast's and had NO problems at all in taking girls back to my room (a different girl every night!)

After the first night got a salute and an envious look from the security guard on my floor as we got out of the lift.

Picking up 'Playmates' in Nairobi is like shooting fish in a barrel! Soooo EASY. Paradise on earth for any guy!

Nairobi girls certainly know how to please a man! I enjoyed EVERY minute,

I WILL return!

ENJOY,

I did.

Hotman.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Globo;1289806]Hi Hotman 666, I used to stay in the Stanley a while ago ago and ran into trouble as I only booked a single. At the time of booking a double was twice the price as a single so I thought I could get away by leaving a few nice tips for the staff in and around reception. They were happy to take the tips but still stung me with US100 bill, which they slide under the door 20 mins after I arrived back at the hotel. Since then I refused to use that hotel and have used soem very nice apartments in Westlands instead. They may not have been as comfortable but the added privacy was well appreciated.[/QUOTE]Hi Globo,

Before I travelled to Nairobi I RTFF and saw that this may be a problem.

So I booked a double including two breakfasts.

Stanley was a good location for where I needed to be for my business and I managed to find a really GREAT rate on the internet. It was SO low, compared with others, that after booking I called the hotel direct to check they had my booking confirmed!

They confirmed my booking and even arranged a hotel car (a Merc) pick up for me at the airport for an extra US$25

When I checked in (on my own) I told the girl on reception that a 'friend' would be joining me. She asked the name and I replied that the 'friend' may be different on various nights!

She replied (with a slight smile) NO PROBLEM at all Sir. Have an enjoyable stay!

I got all of my 'Playmates' to SMS me five minutes before they got to the hotel and met each of them just outside the revolving door and escorted them each in through the metal detector and security check.

I had NO Problems AT ALL from the security in reception or on my room floor.

ALL my playmates stayed overnight and had breakfast before leaving (I had to do some work during the days!) Each of them were treated with complete respect by the staff.

When I checked out one of the guys at the Concierge desk that I had spoken to a few times and had gone to the shops outside for me several times even asked (with a BIG smile) if I and 'my friends' had enjoyed the stay.

I replied that we had all enjoyed 'every minute' of our time at the Stanley.

All my 'Playmates' enjoyed staying at the Stanley and a couple of them even wanted me to take pics of them in various parts of the hotel.
I have spent quite a bit of time in Thailand and enjoy Thai food very much but I did not enjoy the Thai restaurant at the Stanley very much. The décor and service was good but I found the food there rather “Chinese” rather than Thai and rather expensive!

So, although not cheap, a great hotel to stay and, if you book correctly, absolutely NO problems with taking SEVERAL different girls there!

I would DEFINITLY go back to the Stanley again if I could get a good rate but NOT at the 'regular' price!

Hotman.

Hi guys,

So I am a newbie here and I like to keep things discrete. Found some websites and been visiting the playhouses.

Though they charge more than what is the norm I feel it's a good trade off for my discreetness.

Now my question is, there is not choice on variety with the 2 places I normally go to in westy. Is there any other place with quality girls?

P. S I don't mind paying abit extra for some quality.

Uday

[QUOTE=Contoluday; 1293548]Hi guys,

So I am a newbie here and I like to keep things discrete. Found some websites and been visiting the playhouses.

Though they charge more than what is the norm I feel it's a good trade off for my discreetness.

Now my question is, there is not choice on variety with the 2 places I normally go to in westy. Is there any other place with quality girls?

P. S I don't mind paying abit extra for some quality.

Uday[/QUOTE]Paying extra doesn't necessarily get you better quality. In most cases, it just means you have less money to play with. I speak from first-hand observation (note I do not pay big money for play) last time I was in Nairobi and I watched this well-heeled Asian businessman with a fine ass light skinned chica tossing money like it was nothing. The chick played him as she got two bottles of champagne and was all over him when the bubbly was flowing, but as soon as it was gone, she turned cold. That said, I just returned from a trip to Ghana where I saw this guy I had seen before at the airport with a fine, dark sistah in the company this time with a fine light skinned sistah, and from the looks of her, I know it wasn't cheap. But I tend to steer clear of the obvious money oriented chicas as I have had plenty of good experiences not shelling out big dollars.

[QUOTE=Jiggydus;1293832]Paying extra doesn't necessarily get you better quality. In most cases, it just means you have less money to play with. I speak from first-hand observation (note I do not pay big money for play) last time I was in Nairobi and I watched this well-heeled Asian businessman with a fine ass light skinned chica tossing money like it was nothing. The chick played him as she got two bottles of champagne and was all over him when the bubbly was flowing, but as soon as it was gone, she turned cold. That said, I just returned from a trip to Ghana where I saw this guy I had seen before at the airport with a fine, dark sistah in the company this time with a fine light skinned sistah, and from the looks of her, I know it wasn't cheap. But I tend to steer clear of the obvious money oriented chicas as I have had plenty of good experiences not shelling out big dollars.[/QUOTE]Ah, the money doesn't equal quality rule. .

I must specify what I mean, I meant where can I get good quality, with discreteness.

There was a Chinese place which closed down, and to be honest it was the best sex I ever had. House number 164 (gad dayyyuumm)

Been trying to get that kinda quality for the past 2 years, hopefully this forum is my door to good sex.

Just been to Adams arcade playhouse, not very good. There goes a few more thousands in search of GFE

Uday

You are absolutely right Jiggydus. I'm 52 and sadly have to admit to myself that anyone willing to have sex with me who is half my age is NOT doing it for the dick but my money. Nigeria is teaching me this real fast! The best ones are the ones who, for whatever reason, want to be with you but are not too demanding financially. I had a fantastic regular who I met on the street who was not a pro but just wonderful GFE for a whole year in Rwanda. She never asked for a lot. And Ugandan women I met on AfroGems were straight up class, no pro attitude.

I'm learning, perhaps it is obvious, that one has to be patient and try to meet ones that are not pros and maybe if you are lucky get some some sex out of it.

[QUOTE=Jiggydus;1293832]Paying extra doesn't necessarily get you better quality. In most cases, it just means you have less money to play with. I speak from first-hand observation (note I do not pay big money for play) last time I was in Nairobi and I watched this well-heeled Asian businessman with a fine ass light skinned chica tossing money like it was nothing. The chick played him as she got two bottles of champagne and was all over him when the bubbly was flowing, but as soon as it was gone, she turned cold. That said, I just returned from a trip to Ghana where I saw this guy I had seen before at the airport with a fine, dark sistah in the company this time with a fine light skinned sistah, and from the looks of her, I know it wasn't cheap. But I tend to steer clear of the obvious money oriented chicas as I have had plenty of good experiences not shelling out big dollars.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Interracial; 1294316]You are absolutely right Jiggydus. I'm 52 and sadly have to admit to myself that anyone willing to have sex with me who is half my age is NOT doing it for the dick but my money. Nigeria is teaching me this real fast! The best ones are the ones who, for whatever reason, want to be with you but are not too demanding financially. I had a fantastic regular who I met on the street who was not a pro but just wonderful GFE for a whole year in Rwanda. She never asked for a lot. And Ugandan women I met on AfroGems were straight up class, no pro attitude.

I'm learning, perhaps it is obvious, that one has to be patient and try to meet ones that are not pros and maybe if you are lucky get some some sex out of it.[/QUOTE]There is not one girl from 26 jaers old. Like sex. With man from 52jaers old. If the man 10 to 15 jaers older. There is the limit. All the rest is fake love for money or matrial profit. Think if man from 26 jaers old. You want sex with woman from 52 jaers?

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1294493]There is not one girl from 26 jaers old. Like sex. With man from 52jaers old. If the man 10 to 15 jaers older. There is the limit. All the rest is fake love for money or matrial profit. Think if man from 26 jaers old. You want sex with woman from 52 jaers?[/QUOTE]WB,

You say some mighty dopey things in the interest of your extremist, albeit occasionally helpful, views of mongering. But seriously?

When I was 26 I was obsessed with fucking hot older women. At 48 I still kind of am.

There is a reason why MILF porn is such a hot-ticket item.

Jesus, man. Limit your screed to how awful malayas are and how they never like the men they fuck.

Venturing off that topic leads you into very murky waters.

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[QUOTE=Interracial]The best ones are the ones who, for whatever reason, want to be with you but are not too demanding financially.[/QUOTE]This is the story of Africa. Using dating site in uganda I have manage to have sex with 10 girls but I am sure that about 8 of them didn't like me!

Why they jump to bed after 5 minutes? Well, In Africa things happens. Only one of the Afro girl came to see me on a daily basis while all others gone after the first meeting.

The case repeat itself in Mombasa. Recently I had no success in mombasa so I went far, all the way to Madagascar where the girls has less spoiled personality. We always have to move, change tactics and to adapt especially when we get older.

I will be in Nairobi / Mombasa wef 25 June for 4 weeks. Would like to hook up for a beer with some fellow hobbyists.

I enjoy slim university girl types and on a special occasion group sex.

Donnachaa

[QUOTE=WombToTomb; 1295011]WB,

You say some mighty dopey things in the interest of your extremist, albeit occasionally helpful, views of mongering. But seriously?

When I was 26 I was obsessed with fucking hot older women. At 48 I still kind of am.

There is a reason why MILF porn is such a hot-ticket item.

Jesus, man. Limit your screed to how awful malayas are and how they never like the men they fuck.

Venturing off that topic leads you into very murky waters.[/QUOTE]I not like sex with girl or woman same age than my mother, sorry for this.

[QUOTE=Donnachaa; 1295140]I will be in Nairobi / Mombasa wef 25 June for 4 weeks. Would like to hook up for a beer with some fellow hobbyists.

I enjoy slim university girl types and on a special occasion group sex.

Donnachaa[/QUOTE]Fantastic pic

Okay. Send me some money so that I can do my Hair a nice Style and buy some nice Cloth to wear and come meet you at the Air port.

Am back from addis, for my report read the addis forum.

Not much fun, but very pretty girls. .

Now in terms of quality service Nbi is the place. Anyways going to have a session with my normal house, hope Myriam is there. I hear you can get Chinese somewhere in Nairobi.

If you need some numbers in exchange let me know. .

If so can someone pm me the directions please.

Uday

[QUOTE=John Palmer; 1295117]This is the story of Africa. Using dating site in uganda I have manage to have sex with 10 girls but I am sure that about 8 of them didn't like me!

Why they jump to bed after 5 minutes? Well, In Africa things happens. Only one of the Afro girl came to see me on a daily basis while all others gone after the first meeting.

The case repeat itself in Mombasa. Recently I had no success in mombasa so I went far, all the way to Madagascar where the girls has less spoiled personality. We always have to move, change tactics and to adapt especially when we get older.[/QUOTE]So, if you just wanted to have sex with 10 different girls, why would you care if they liked you or not, or to be more specific what made you think about it in the first place?

Also, what exactly is the definition of a "spoiled personality", just for my understanding?

[QUOTE=Jhack111; 1296739]So, if you just wanted to have sex with 10 different girls, why would you care if they liked you or not, or to be more specific what made you think about it in the first place?

Also, what exactly is the definition of a "spoiled personality", just for my understanding?[/QUOTE]I would also like to understand what he means by 'spoiled personality'.

I have heard that there is a brothel in Muthaiga and Karen areas of Nairobi.

Does any body have exact locations of these two places as I will be in Nairobi after 4th July for two weeks.

Rgds

[QUOTE=Umbakali; 1297801]I have heard that there is a brothel in Muthaiga and Karen areas of Nairobi.

Does any body have exact locations of these two places as I will be in Nairobi after 4th July for two weeks.

Rgds[/QUOTE]There is more than 1, actually there are lots of them all over town. But, since prostitution is supposed to be illegal in Kenya, they don't advertise openly as such but pretend to be massage saions etc. And they are often "here today but gone tomorrow".

You'll find up-to-date phone numbers on Narobi Raha's website. Or simply hop into a cab outside your hotel and tell the driver to take you to whatever place pays them the highest commission (LOL )!

I planned a short trip to Mombasa, however at the last minute decided to stay in Nairobi preventing another flight. I made contact with four girls by way of Afro Intro, but met up with only two. Girl one was about 24 slim, small boobs (not a boob man) with a nice little butt. Girl number two was 22 with a very firm ass that I dream about, great legs and small boobs. The first night party girl took me to a restaurant called Mediterranean, the food was not that great, but the setting was nice. We went to a club that I do not remember, it was empty and then to Black Diamond club. The club was nice, half full on a weeknight. The club had a couple of nice looking girls, I have a weakness for BLK girls, a good number of them may have been working girls, most people were dancing having fun. It is not an A class club full on snooty people but I loved it and would definitely go back, the atmosphere was great, and did I mention it was a weekday?

The last dance club of the night was called Florida, it was full of working girls, and let me tell you guys most of them looked delicious. The girls were thick or thin but most had amazing asses, these girls did not suffer cellulitis as in many western girls. I was with party girl and we went back to the Chester Hotel. This girl gave amazing head and without hesitation put my balls in her mouth. I ended up spraying her chest and face with all my frustrations of the day. She took it like a champ and smiled.

My last night was spent at the Florida club where I made one walk around the place and immediately picked out this small, thin shaped girl with a bubble ass. She had a short tight orange dress with orange high heels to match. I offered 30 dollars which she took. I do not know if this is too much but as hard as I was I did not feel like negotiating. Went up to the room where this girl was game for anything I asked, I knew she was a little tipsy and she let me do all kinds of perverted things to her. I was able to enjoy her mouth front and back. I gave her the money and called it a night, I took off the next day.

I stayed at the Chester House in a one bedroom apartment, with a cost of 153 dollars. When I checked in the concierge showed me the room, at the end of his tour I extended a generous tip while asking if there was any issue in bringing guests up to the apartment. The concierge said that there would be no issues. I had two girls in the apartment without a single complication. They had to leave their I'd's at reception but that was it. The hotel had a nice restaurant in the third floor, the good was good. Make sure you take your own lock to store your valuables. A metal box is provided in the room where you put the lock, it is not your traditional safebox. You will need an adapter if you have American Plugs, purchase one before arriving there, I believe they use the UK plug.

Recommendations about Nairobi:

Most girls have a musty scent. I was taken by surprise at first but surprisingly it did not turn me off. It is not a dirty smell, more like a natural scent, who knew that I would be a little turned on by it. It can get expensive taking cabs from one place to another, I recommend making a contact and hire a Taxi for the day. The girls took care of that for me. There was a cab service next to baggage claim I used from the airport to downtown the price seemed a little steep, it cost 2000 shillings. The traffic is terrible but not the worst I have seen, be ready to inhale exhaust.

Make sure you take your own lock to store your valuables. A metal box is provided in the room where you put the lock, it is not your traditional safebox.

Depending on what type of guy you are, you can have the GF experience making contacts with girls on Afro Intro, make sure you screen them. If you are just interested in one thing, with my limited experience I would recommend the Florida club and going through the tuff process of picking throughout the selection of gorgeous dark bodies. I may be back before the year is over, I love Thailand for the food, people, culture, but I love black women, it will be a hard choice, I may visit Mombasa, who knows. Oh and I lost my camera so no pictures this time, sorry guys.

[QUOTE=ViajeroTravele; 1309151]I planned a short trip to Mombasa, however at the last minute decided to stay in Nairobi preventing another flight. I made contact with four girls by way of Afro Intro, but met up with only two. Girl one was about 24 slim, small boobs (not a boob man) with a nice little butt. Girl number two was 22 with a very firm ass that I dream about, great legs and small boobs. The first night party girl took me to a restaurant called Mediterranean, the food was not that great, but the setting was nice. We went to a club that I do not remember, it was empty and then to Black Diamond club. The club was nice, half full on a weeknight. The club had a couple of nice looking girls, I have a weakness for BLK girls, a good number of them may have been working girls, most people were dancing having fun. It is not an A class club full on snooty people but I loved it and would definitely go back, the atmosphere was great, and did I mention it was a weekday?

The last dance club of the night was called Florida, it was full of working girls, and let me tell you guys most of them looked delicious. The girls were thick or thin but most had amazing asses, these girls did not suffer cellulitis as in many western girls. I was with party girl and we went back to the Chester Hotel. This girl gave amazing head and without hesitation put my balls in her mouth. I ended up spraying her chest and face with all my frustrations of the day. She took it like a champ and smiled.

My last night was spent at the Florida club where I made one walk around the place and immediately picked out this small, thin shaped girl with a bubble ass. She had a short tight orange dress with orange high heels to match. I offered 30 dollars which she took. I do not know if this is too much but as hard as I was I did not feel like negotiating. Went up to the room where this girl was game for anything I asked, I knew she was a little tipsy and she let me do all kinds of perverted things to her. I was able to enjoy her mouth front and back. I gave her the money and called it a night, I took off the next day.

I stayed at the Chester House in a one bedroom apartment, with a cost of 153 dollars. When I checked in the concierge showed me the room, at the end of his tour I extended a generous tip while asking if there was any issue in bringing guests up to the apartment. The concierge said that there would be no issues. I had two girls in the apartment without a single complication. They had to leave their I'd's at reception but that was it. The hotel had a nice restaurant in the third floor, the good was good. Make sure you take your own lock to store your valuables. A metal box is provided in the room where you put the lock, it is not your traditional safebox. You will need an adapter if you have American Plugs, purchase one before arriving there, I believe they use the UK plug.

Recommendations about Nairobi:

Most girls have a musty scent. I was taken by surprise at first but surprisingly it did not turn me off. It is not a dirty smell, more like a natural scent, who knew that I would be a little turned on by it. It can get expensive taking cabs from one place to another, I recommend making a contact and hire a Taxi for the day. The girls took care of that for me. There was a cab service next to baggage claim I used from the airport to downtown the price seemed a little steep, it cost 2000 shillings. The traffic is terrible but not the worst I have seen, be ready to inhale exhaust.

Make sure you take your own lock to store your valuables. A metal box is provided in the room where you put the lock, it is not your traditional safebox.

Depending on what type of guy you are, you can have the GF experience making contacts with girls on Afro Intro, make sure you screen them. If you are just interested in one thing, with my limited experience I would recommend the Florida club and going through the tuff process of picking throughout the selection of gorgeous dark bodies. I may be back before the year is over, I love Thailand for the food, people, culture, but I love black women, it will be a hard choice, I may visit Mombasa, who knows. Oh and I lost my camera so no pictures this time, sorry guys.[/QUOTE]153 dollar / night in Chester (+royal tip money) , more than one monthsalery in Kenya. Normal worker have 5 dollar / day Bifore you go to Kenya. Laern more about Kenya prices.

[QUOTE=ViajeroTravele; 1309151]I planned a short trip to Mombasa, however at the last minute decided to stay in Nairobi preventing another flight. I made contact with four girls by way of Afro Intro, but met up with only two. Girl one was about 24 slim, small boobs (not a boob man) with a nice little butt. Girl number two was 22 with a very firm ass that I dream about, great legs and small boobs. The first night party girl took me to a restaurant called Mediterranean, the food was not that great, but the setting was nice. We went to a club that I do not remember, it was empty and then to Black Diamond club. The club was nice, half full on a weeknight. The club had a couple of nice looking girls, I have a weakness for BLK girls, a good number of them may have been working girls, most people were dancing having fun. It is not an A class club full on snooty people but I loved it and would definitely go back, the atmosphere was great, and did I mention it was a weekday?

The last dance club of the night was called Florida, it was full of working girls, and let me tell you guys most of them looked delicious. The girls were thick or thin but most had amazing asses, these girls did not suffer cellulitis as in many western girls. I was with party girl and we went back to the Chester Hotel. This girl gave amazing head and without hesitation put my balls in her mouth. I ended up spraying her chest and face with all my frustrations of the day. She took it like a champ and smiled.

My last night was spent at the Florida club where I made one walk around the place and immediately picked out this small, thin shaped girl with a bubble ass. She had a short tight orange dress with orange high heels to match. I offered 30 dollars which she took. I do not know if this is too much but as hard as I was I did not feel like negotiating. Went up to the room where this girl was game for anything I asked, I knew she was a little tipsy and she let me do all kinds of perverted things to her. I was able to enjoy her mouth front and back. I gave her the money and called it a night, I took off the next day.

I stayed at the Chester House in a one bedroom apartment, with a cost of 153 dollars. When I checked in the concierge showed me the room, at the end of his tour I extended a generous tip while asking if there was any issue in bringing guests up to the apartment. The concierge said that there would be no issues. I had two girls in the apartment without a single complication. They had to leave their I'd's at reception but that was it. The hotel had a nice restaurant in the third floor, the good was good. Make sure you take your own lock to store your valuables. A metal box is provided in the room where you put the lock, it is not your traditional safebox. You will need an adapter if you have American Plugs, purchase one before arriving there, I believe they use the UK plug.

Recommendations about Nairobi:

Most girls have a musty scent. I was taken by surprise at first but surprisingly it did not turn me off. It is not a dirty smell, more like a natural scent, who knew that I would be a little turned on by it. It can get expensive taking cabs from one place to another, I recommend making a contact and hire a Taxi for the day. The girls took care of that for me. There was a cab service next to baggage claim I used from the airport to downtown the price seemed a little steep, it cost 2000 shillings. The traffic is terrible but not the worst I have seen, be ready to inhale exhaust.

Make sure you take your own lock to store your valuables. A metal box is provided in the room where you put the lock, it is not your traditional safebox.

Depending on what type of guy you are, you can have the GF experience making contacts with girls on Afro Intro, make sure you screen them. If you are just interested in one thing, with my limited experience I would recommend the Florida club and going through the tuff process of picking throughout the selection of gorgeous dark bodies. I may be back before the year is over, I love Thailand for the food, people, culture, but I love black women, it will be a hard choice, I may visit Mombasa, who knows. Oh and I lost my camera so no pictures this time, sorry guys.[/QUOTE]Why you pic-up taxi driver naer baggage claim. This is the biggist body-trap in the world. Why not buying taxi tiket (way out) (1700)

Why you pay extra money for extra visiter in ONE APPARTMENT.

Why you push-up evry kenya prices. End make al thinks inpossibel for persons with normal budjet?

I have no problem to pay 10 or 20 procent more than one local. But plaese not double prices.

[QUOTE=Willyboy; 1309817]Why you pic-up taxi driver naer baggage claim. This is the biggist body-trap in the world. Why not buying taxi tiket (way out) (1700)

Why you pay extra money for extra visiter in ONE APPARTMENT.

Why you push-up evry kenya prices. End make al thinks inpossibel for persons with normal budjet?

I have no problem to pay 10 or 20 procent more than one local. But plaese not double prices.[/QUOTE]Greetings all,

Why get rip off taxis from airport, to Nairobi! Exit arrivals turn right walk across small car park just before entrance to departures.

Is bus stop, number 34 bus to simmers for example will cost 50 bob if you got big bag another seat is also 50 bob, please do not

Pay rip off prices to taxi, I use this bus on regular basis and never had a problem, Wild Rover

[QUOTE=Wild Rover; 1316589]Greetings all,

Why get rip off taxis from airport, to Nairobi! Exit arrivals turn right walk across small car park just before entrance to departures.

Is bus stop, number 34 bus to simmers for example will cost 50 bob if you got big bag another seat is also 50 bob, please do not

Pay rip off prices to taxi, I use this bus on regular basis and never had a problem, Wild Rover[/QUOTE]Prices from 1700ksh to 2000ksh are normal, from airport to down town hotels.

With matatu from airport to downtown. This is for experts in Nairobi.

Does anyone know where I can find her?

[url]http://www.worldstaruncut.com/uncut/49978[/url]

In Koenhange st I often saw them starkers, although the city innitiated a cleanup some five years back. I'm sure the SW scene continues in the general area. This chick is obviously off her head, not an affliction one would want under any circumstances, especially in Africa. I knew a chick in Nairobi who had mental problems. She was sent away, not sure where, and died suspiciously. I suppose if the Whitch Doctors get hold of them in that state, with superstition rampant amoungst Africans anything is likely to happen.

Hi,

I'm new to this forum and I don't know if I'm posting this at the right. But I'm going nairobi at the end of the first time and I just need some info on girl friendly hotels, the girls going rate (I don't want to contribute to driving up prices) and where to go at night and day to meet girls.

Thanks appreciate it

Habari Rafiki,

I am in Nairobi and Mombasa for a few weeks Late Sept and Early Oct. I enjoy Parties, MMF and group sex. Nothing serious just good clean fun.

Anyone interested please get in touch.

Take Care.

[QUOTE=BlueBed65; 1320549]Hi,

I'm new to this forum and I don't know if I'm posting this at the right. But I'm going nairobi at the end of the first time and I just need some info on girl friendly hotels, the girls going rate (I don't want to contribute to driving up prices) and where to go at night and day to meet girls.

Thanks appreciate it[/QUOTE]I am headed there today. Looking for same info. Maybe we check notes later.

[QUOTE=Ocampo2;1321065]I am headed there today. Looking for same info. Maybe we check notes later.[/QUOTE]Simple: Read the forum. Hundreds of pages with information!

Hi,

I'm in Nairobi next week for 10 days staying at the Stanley. I don't want to go out and search. Would rather like to have a girl come to my room. Did not find internet sites with a nice selection. Any guidance how to get a descent looking girl?

[QUOTE=Umbakali;1297801]I have heard that there is a brothel in Muthaiga and Karen areas of Nairobi.[/QUOTE]Why you want to find these places? Isn't the entire city of Nairobi a huge brothel. LOL?

Cheers!

Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Stimbak; 1321194]Hi,

I'm in Nairobi next week for 10 days staying at the Stanley. I don't want to go out and search. Would rather like to have a girl come to my room. Did not find internet sites with a nice selection. Any guidance how to get a descent looking girl?[/QUOTE]At night just sit and relax at the pub on first floor or at the Thorn-Tree restaurant on ground floor next to the entrance, making eye contact with the one you like and take her to your room. Give the guard something and there will be no problem. Or book a double room for the night. Had many wonderfull nights in the Stanley. Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Ocampo2;1321065]I am headed there today. Looking for same info. Maybe we check notes later.[/QUOTE]Hey Ocampo2,

How is Nairobi, and where are you staying. And is the problem in Mombassa affecting Nairobi

Hello folks, nice forum and nice people here.

I'm planning why first African "safari" of my life, but I'm getting an hard (?) time figuring my best options.

I've been going and living in Asia for quite a few year already.

I'm planning on staying in Nairobi only (my first time).

Can you guys suggest a guest-friendly hotel which is not going cost a lot?

I see somebody mentioned the Stanley, but at US$215 / night average, that's a lot of girls money I'm going to waste. I'm used to pay US$80 in Thailand but I guess we are on a different level here.

Anything guest-friendly hotel, clean, possibly with wifi (just to not get bored) at US$100 / night (or less)?

How much do you pay the girls for ST?

What about all-night?

How much do you tip the security?

Sorry to make such questions but I want to be sure to not trash the location by overpaying the girls.

Thanks,

BBI

Ok, I would recommend Natural Oak apartments, by definition, girl friendly since no reception. It has a pool. Check out their website I think a 1 BR goes for $100 USD per night but email them for prices. A studio is around $80 USD. Girls ST should be no more that 1, 500 ST KShillings and 2, 000 Overnight BUT ALWAYS agree on price before.

[QUOTE=Badboyit; 1321943]Hello folks, nice forum and nice people here.

I'm planning why first African "safari" of my life, but I'm getting an hard (?) time figuring my best options.

I've been going and living in Asia for quite a few year already.

I'm planning on staying in Nairobi only (my first time).

Can you guys suggest a guest-friendly hotel which is not going cost a lot?

I see somebody mentioned the Stanley, but at US$215 / night average, that's a lot of girls money I'm going to waste. I'm used to pay US$80 in Thailand but I guess we are on a different level here.

Anything guest-friendly hotel, clean, possibly with wifi (just to not get bored) at US$100 / night (or less)?

How much do you pay the girls for ST?

What about all-night?

How much do you tip the security?

Sorry to make such questions but I want to be sure to not trash the location by overpaying the girls.

Thanks,

BBI[/QUOTE]

Interracial,

Thanks, you are my hero!

Sometimes, when time is limited and I just want some action I go to "Number 28" in Lavington.

It is a house located in 28 Convent Drive not far from Jeffery Sports club. It is possible to reach on foot from Lavington Green (Lavington Shopping centre) and you can also take a motorcycle from Lavington Green for 50 or 100 KSH. If you prefer, you can take a taxi for 200. I am sure they all know where it is, especially the motorbikes since I have seen them bring the working girls.

The place itself is nice, clean and relaxing. It has a lounge with a bar where you can buy drinks and chat with the girls before the action. From time to time they also arrange bachelor parties. The place is managed by an indian lady who is friendly and relaxed.

Number 28 is open 24/7 and typically have 10. 20 girls. They line up for you when you are ready. I normally go for thin girls, but you have any size and the customers are from all corners of the world including local Kenyans. An hours action costs 2000 KSH, which is 1000 for the girl and 1000 for the room.

The area is very nice, and I some friends of mine stay in a small hotel called Eden Gardens that is located in 26 Convent Drive. It is around 150 meters from number 28. Eden Gardens has a nice swimming pool and large garden. WIFI and breakfast is included and they charged my friends 100 USD for a room. They had no problems in bringing in different guests, so I guess you can call it girl friendly.

Enjoy Nairobi friends, it is truly one of the few remaining paradises when you like pussy like me.

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1316722]Prices from 1700ksh to 2000ksh are normal, from airport to down town hotels.[/QUOTE]If you bargain hard the price can drop to 1000ksh but it is not applicable for tourists with milk on their lips.

[QUOTE=Polar1234; 1322766]Sometimes, when time is limited and I just want some action I go to "Number 28" in Lavington.

It is a house located in 28 Convent Drive not far from Jeffery Sports club. It is possible to reach on foot from Lavington Green (Lavington Shopping centre) and you can also take a motorcycle from Lavington Green for 50 or 100 KSH. If you prefer, you can take a taxi for 200. I am sure they all know where it is, especially the motorbikes since I have seen them bring the working girls.

The place itself is nice, clean and relaxing. It has a lounge with a bar where you can buy drinks and chat with the girls before the action. From time to time they also arrange bachelor parties. The place is managed by an indian lady who is friendly and relaxed.

Number 28 is open 24/7 and typically have 10. 20 girls. They line up for you when you are ready. I normally go for thin girls, but you have any size and the customers are from all corners of the world including local Kenyans. An hours action costs 2000 KSH, which is 1000 for the girl and 1000 for the room.

The area is very nice, and I some friends of mine stay in a small hotel called Eden Gardens that is located in 26 Convent Drive. It is around 150 meters from number 28. Eden Gardens has a nice swimming pool and large garden. WIFI and breakfast is included and they charged my friends 100 USD for a room. They had no problems in bringing in different guests, so I guess you can call it girl friendly.

Enjoy Nairobi friends, it is truly one of the few remaining paradises when you like pussy like me.[/QUOTE]Excellent information, thanks for sharing.

[QUOTE=BlueBed65; 1321895]Hey Ocampo2,

How is Nairobi, and where are you staying. And is the problem in Mombassa affecting Nairobi[/QUOTE]Mombasa problem not affecting nai.

Been able to get some girls but 680, you must get a double room and girl must have I'd which seems like most of them don't

[QUOTE=Willyboy;1289659]Stanley hotel cost 200 Euro for one night SINGLE ROOM (with internet booking) This mongers sending poor girls to home with TAXIMONEY[/QUOTE]I have stayed in Nairobi 3 to 4 times in the recent past. Twice I used Sounthern Sun. Mayfair hotel once Windsor hotel. The Windsor hotel is bullshit without any activity. Souther Sun has a resturant just on the left hand side while you enter the hotel. After entring the resturant there is a small bar with 4 tables and high stools around the table. In my first visit, I went to the pub to buy a bottle of water and saw a stunning girl sitting there in tight fitting jeans and tank top, showing her cleavage. As I eyed her, she smiled at me and we started a conversation. I treated her with food and a glass of Khalua and we went to my room. In the room first thing she did was to kiss me on my lips with full toungue. We kissed some more and she was tasty with a perfect boobs and an ass to die for. We did all perverted things like analingus, cunnilingus, BJ and she even let me fuck her hairy armpits. She tasted her own juice from my mouth. It was good fun. Cindy is the girl to look for. Sweet taste of her pussy juice still in my mouth.

I'm an American who has been visiting Kenya for the last two years. I found a lovely college student who is hot, open minded and loves to try new things, and she also happens to be my girlfriend. Well we were considering an MMF or foursome if anyone is interested. Clean, good personality and fun would be our criteria. PM me if interested. I'll be in Nairobi at the end of Sept for 3-4 weeks.

[QUOTE=Travelguru;1324589]I'm an American who has been visiting Kenya for the last two years. I found a lovely college student who is hot, open minded and loves to try new things, and she also happens to be my girlfriend. Well we were considering an MMF or foursome if anyone is interested. Clean, good personality and fun would be our criteria. PM me if interested. I'll be in Nairobi at the end of Sept for 3-4 weeks.[/QUOTE]I will stay In Nairobi last week of Sept 22. 28. Have a Kenyan girlfriend. She is 26, I am 48. I have to explain the idea to her, but I am sure she will be interested. We had discussed the idea already. Will stay in centre, Stanley or Hilton most probably.

Guys,

Through the readings, I can now plan my trip to nairobi and mombassa with many options. Thanks alot!

My question is regarding the Safaris; Prices are already pretty high for Safaris, so I don t think I can afford to pay the package for a girl I would have met in nairobi or mombassa.

So my question is; Any tips for action during your safaris in Tsavo, Massai mara? Is it easy to get a lady from the hotel or lodge employees for an extra job?

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Ocampo2;1324140]. Been able to get some girls but 680, you must get a double room and girl must have ID which seems like most of them don't.[/QUOTE]Correct, however I would rather discourage anybody to chose 680 Hotel. I was terribly pissed with the f-cking floor guards who permantently asked me for money (need cash for transportation, have a sick mother.)!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

Next time that crap happens, ask them what their national sport is. They will reply football. Correct them and tell it's extortion.

[QUOTE=Hesekiels; 1324783]Correct, however I would rather discourage anybody to chose 680 Hotel. I was terribly pissed with the f-cking floor guards who permantently asked me for money (need cash for transportation, have a sick mother.)!

Cheers!

Hesekiels[/QUOTE]

Sounds like fun. I have a Tanzanian girlfriend with the same idea but we are not going to Mombasa until the end of October. If your travel plans change let me know.

[QUOTE=Travelguru;1324589]I'm an American who has been visiting Kenya for the last two years. I found a lovely college student who is hot, open minded and loves to try new things, and she also happens to be my girlfriend. Well we were considering an MMF or foursome if anyone is interested. Clean, good personality and fun would be our criteria. PM me if interested. I'll be in Nairobi at the end of Sept for 3-4 weeks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Interracial;1324793]. Correct them and tell it's extortion.[/QUOTE]Well, you bet your life brother, I told those motherf-ckers even more drastic words!

Cheers!

Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Traveller EU;1324737]I will stay In Nairobi last week of Sept 22. 28. Have a Kenyan girlfriend. She is 26, I am 48. I have to explain the idea to her, but I am sure she will be interested. We had discussed the idea already. Will stay in centre, Stanley or Hilton most probably.[/QUOTE]Am in Nairobi the same period, if you would like to meet for a coffee or beer.

I find Kenya Girls are quite good and relaxed in Group sex. They enjoy it very much. It can be difficult however if you ask them to perform some lesbian action.

Get in touch. You can PM me.

Donnachaa.

[QUOTE=Travelguru;1324589]I'm an American who has been visiting Kenya for the last two years. I found a lovely college student who is hot, open minded and loves to try new things, and she also happens to be my girlfriend. Well we were considering an MMF or foursome if anyone is interested. Clean, good personality and fun would be our criteria. PM me if interested. I'll be in Nairobi at the end of Sept for 3-4 weeks.[/QUOTE]Am in Nairobi the same period if you want to meet for a beer. Am interested in your suggestion.

[QUOTE=Donnachaa;1326349]Am in Nairobi the same period if you want to meet for a beer. Am interested in your suggestion.[/QUOTE]PM me your contact no and we'll meet up for a beer and see how it goes.