Paris

WYBMG,

[QUOTE=WontYouBeMyGirl]By the way "Porte" means "door" as all the access to Paris were genuine doors long time ago![/quote]
Thanks for that tidbit of information.

:-)

[QUOTE=wybmg]Women rue Joubert are more numerous, quality goes from "doable with a lot of courage in the dark" to "doable without alcohol".

Just joking, but IMHO Rue Joubert has better quality.[/QUOTE]O.K. Thanks!

One more thing:

There is a possibility that I may have to postpone my Paris trip until the end of May to the first week in June. I've also learned that my stay (10 days) will coincide with the tennis tournament (Roland Garros) and other festivities going on in the city. Apparently the city gets very crowded with tourists during end of May into June.

So my question is: will I still be able to find the women in the vans at Port de Clichy and on Rue Joubert and other places? . Will they still be there when I arrive that week? . (I'm a bit worried that they won't be there anymore, especially the Maghrebian women in vans)

Thanks

Rue St. Denis

I usually don't respond to negative comments but I have to say he's right. I saw SWs that had to be in their 50's, overweight and dressed like hookers. Other than how they were dressed, they looked like grandmothers.

Seriously, is there a market for old SW or is this an example of French laws that make it almost impossible to fire someone?

On a different subject, I tried "LeSalon" on Rue St Denis for a Thai massage. Good massage but no extras. 80 euro for an hour.

[QUOTE=A Sunny]Was checking out the streetlife there - just to get an idea. It is incredible what kind of creatures are offering themselves. Probably an option if one is heavy drunk and out of mind. In case you go there, do it for a visaul amusement and not for a sincere purpose.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Garmin]the bottles are discretely emptied by the expert ][b]mamasan[/b] ;.) [/QUOTE]Mamasan? isn't that a "Vietnamese" Term? I guess it's ok to use it in Asia, but in Paris?

I always thought that "Madame Claude" would suit better LOL.

[QUOTE=Jonathan76]WYBMG,

Thanks for that tidbit of information.

:-)

O.K. Thanks!

One more thing:

There is a possibility that I may have to postpone my Paris trip until the end of May to the first week in June. I've also learned that my stay (10 days) will coincide with the tennis tournament (Roland Garros) and other festivities going on in the city. Apparently the city gets very crowded with tourists during end of May into June.

So my question is: will I still be able to find the women in the vans at Port de Clichy and on Rue Joubert and other places? . Will they still be there when I arrive that week? . (I'm a bit worried that they won't be there anymore, especially the Maghrebian women in vans)

Thanks[/QUOTE]Hi Johnathan,

I'm not sure, but there is two facts that leads me to think there won't be any impact on the Maghrebian women you seem to love:

1. the French Open is played on the western part of Paris, rue Joubert and Porte de Clichy are far from there. BUT it is just near the infamous "Bois de Boulogne". I don't know if it make business sink or soar! More people means more clients :) Last time I went to see a game there, there were women working in the middle of the day.

2. Paris is the city in the world that welcomes the biggest number of tourists. More than 12 million visitors vs 10 million inhabitants! So the French Open won't make a big difference on that number :)

So don't worry, you'll be able to monger.

BTW, if you stay that long, you may consider a mongering week end in another city in Europe: Amsterdam, London, Brussels or Prague are less than a few hours by train or flight.

Cheers,

WYBMG

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Mamasan? Isn't that a "Vietnamese" Term? I guess it's ok to use it in Asia, but in Paris?

I always thought that "Madame Claude" would suit better LOL. [/QUOTE]Libertine; voluptuary a; rake, debauchee, loose fish, rip, rakehell, fast man; intrigant, gallant, seducer, fornicator, lecher, satyr, goat, *****monger, paillard, adulterer, gay deceiver, Lothario, Don Juan, Bluebeard; chartered libertine. Adultress, advoutress, courtesan, prostitute, strumpet, harlot, *****, punk, fille de joie; woman, woman of the town; streetwalker, Cyprian, miss, piece; frail sisterhood; demirep, wench, trollop, trull, baggage, hussy, drab, *****, jade, skit, rig, quean, mopsy, ****, minx, harridan; unfortunate, unfortunate female, unfortunate woman; woman of easy virtue (unchaste); wanton, fornicatress; Jezebel, Messalina, Delilah, Thais, Phryne, Aspasia, Lais, lorette, cocotte, petite dame, grisette; demimonde; chippy* [U. S. ]; sapphist; spiritual wife; white slave. Concubine, mistress, doxy, chere amie, bona roba. Pimp; pander, pandar; bawd, conciliatrix, procuress, mackerel, wittol

Thanks WYBMG.

[QUOTE=WontYouBeMyGirl]BTW, if you stay that long, you may consider a mongering week end in another city in Europe: Amsterdam, London, Brussels or Prague are less than a few hours by train or flight.[/QUOTE]Yes, I think maybe Barcelona appeals to me the most....Or if all fails, Casablanca !

:-)

By the way, the reason I'm so eager to learn about the 'North African women' is that I come from one of the worst mongering places in the world - New York City.

1) The average age here is 32.

2) 97% of the women are slender and thin.

3) And they charge minimum of 250 to 300 dollars for 30 minutes, generally.

It's absolutely ridiculous !

Furthermore, it is all very private. One has to make several phone calls before contact is made which kills the excitement for me. Besides, there's nothing I hate more than slender/skinny women. LOL.

***

I'm looking for a woman who is 25 to 30 years older than me - (mid to late 50's)

A woman with a round and gentle face, with one or two wrinkles around the eyes (not too many)

A woman with big hips and big thighs that jiggle when she walks or undresses.

In my opinion, there is nothing more beautiful than this.

So yes, in other words, I'm looking for a nice Magrehbian 'mother'

:-)

Cheers,

J.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Mamasan? isn't that a "Vietnamese" Term? I guess it's ok to use it in Asia, but in Paris?

I always thought that "Madame Claude" would suit better LOL.[/QUOTE]

As anything is more interesting than speaking of the old fatties of rue Joubert or of the vans of the boulevards des Maréchaux, let us make some cultural diversion:

Mamma is of course Latin and refers to the old lady (mostly retired who.e) who is entitled in running a brothel. Before another syphilitic collaborationist retired wh.re did close the brothels in France, the law only allowed women to run a brothel.

San is the plain form of Mr or Mrs in Japanese. It is not as honorific as Sama and less familiar than Kun. Before WWII, the Japaneses did expand their culture allover the Pacific and brothels were the fleuron of their civilization. To my knowledge, Japaneses did not land in Viet Nam.

Madame Claude has been a famous matchmaker in the sixties and was the official provider of the government when De Gaulle needed to expand the military industry by exporting to the middle east. Given the level of these bars, even at 600 bucks for a handjob, I would not use any reference to Madame Claude!

If anyone can suggest a guide to the massage parlors of Paris offering erotic massage, I'd be grateful, and will report on my findings as I try them out.

[QUOTE=ProfPleasure]If anyone can suggest a guide to the massage parlors of Paris offering erotic massage, I'd be grateful, and will report on my findings as I try them out.[/QUOTE][url]http://www.parisrelaxation.com[/url]

It's only in French.

Nexxair

[QUOTE=Mufu]As anything is more interesting than speaking of the old fatties of rue Joubert or of the vans of the boulevards des Maréchaux, let us make some cultural diversion[/QUOTE]Hello Mufu.

But you are so lucky to live in a city with so many North African women.

Yes?

Hey WYBMG,

It's now definite, unfortunately. Because of commitments at work I will have to postpone my Paris trip until the end of May.

I am very unhappy but there it is.

My question and concern is: Will the vans still be there at Port de Clichy? I just hope they don't disappear in May/June.

If they do where would they move to? . Another 'Porte'?

Also, is it ever okay to ask a taxi about where the vans are or no?

Cheers,

J.

[QUOTE=Jonathan76]Hello Mufu.

But you are so lucky to live in a city with so many North African women.

Yes?[/QUOTE]

No! Definetely!

[QUOTE=Mufu]No! Definetely![/QUOTE]Hi Mufu,

But why ?

I've seen photos of women from Algeria and Morocco and many of them were attractive and beautiful. I visited Paris only once but that was many years ago with my parents when I was 13 so I don't remember.

The Algerian/Moroccan women in Paris are not good? Is that what you're saying? . Should I forget Paris and go somewhere else to find them?

J.

[QUOTE=Jonathan76]Hi Mufu,

But why ?

I've seen photos of women from Algeria and Morocco and many of them were attractive and beautiful. I visited Paris only once but that was many years ago with my parents when I was 13 so I don't remember.

The Algerian/Moroccan women in Paris are not good? Is that what you're saying? . Should I forget Paris and go somewhere else to find them?

J.[/QUOTE]Jonathan,

I think Mufu says no because the quality in Paris is not that high for the average monger. But as you are precisely looking for these kind of girls it is a good bet for you.

For instance, Casablanca is a good place to monger, as long as you are in the right hotel (most of them are not GF), but you will only find young girls! I've never seen there a girl in her 40s, most of them are 20-30max.

Anyway, every monger has his own preferences, and if you're not happy in Paris, you have lots of ways to be happy in another city.

WUBMG

[QUOTE=WontYouBeMyGirl]But as you are precisely looking for these kind of girls it is a good bet for you.[/quote]Thanks WYBMG.... And my apologies - I must be boring you to tears by now with all of my queries.

[QUOTE=WontYouBeMyGirl]Casablanca is a good place to monger, as long as you are in the right hotel (most of them are not GF), but you will only find young girls! I've never seen there a girl in her 40s, most of them are 20-30max.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's what I've heard. Another fellow told me that since I fancy older Algerian/Moroccan women I should go to Paris instead, and go to Barbes or rue Saint Denis or other places in the town centre. He said the street is full of them and that I would sincerely love it.

Take care,

J.

[QUOTE=Jonathan76]Another fellow told me that since I fancy older Algerian/Moroccan women I should go to Paris instead, and go to Barbes or rue Saint Denis or other places in the town centre. He said the street is full of them and that I would sincerely love it.

Take care,

J.[/QUOTE]Jonathan,

Since you seem hell-bent on finding out more on North-African prostitutes in Paris, I'm here to help :

First, check out this report I wrote a few months back and which is still largely valid : [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=505941&postcount=868[/url] (only things that have changed is that the hot Tunisian is gone, the hot Morrocan is back, a few new Algerians arrived and the place is generally packed with riot police - dont worry, they do not give a damn about our favorite hobby, they are just here to protect the nearby campaign headquarters of presidential hopeful Nicolas Sarkozy.)

Second, Rue Saint Denis :

Once the beating pulse of Parisian street action, poor old Saint Denis street is now only the shadow of its past grandeur.

However, if you are into Maghrebian women, you can still find something to make you happy. INMHO the best ones show up in the evening, from 8 PM till 1 AM, and it is not true that all of them are old and ugly (even though a fair amount of them are). You will find a couple of them (an especially fat one with enormous tits who might appeal to you) in Rue du Ponceau, a small dozen in Rue Saint Denis proper (especially near the small passage on 263, St Denis Street) and then a few more on Rue Blondel (a narrow street that intersect with North St Denis Street).
As a rule of thumb, do not expect any GFE from those girls. Some will even try to rush things. However, I have had some extraordinary GFEs from some rue Saint Denis North-African workers. But for that, you need both time (to talk, go to a nearby cafe for a drink, become a regular customer), money and common ground (ie. share some ethnic bounds).

So, it's hit and miss, but as a newbie here is waht you will get from Rue Saint Denis :

- a no frills session. CBJ+CF, end of the story.
- certainty not to get pickpocketed or mugged. These girls are strictly pro (however if you dont pay what was agreed upon, you will get your ass kicked by the bouncers, I've seen it happen).
- certainty to find at least one fat Algerian or Moroccon woman, any time of the day, which seems to be what you are essentially craving for.

Third : Porte de Clichy - Rue Rebieres

This has been covered by Denis and alt, so I wont expand any further. You can access Rebieres street by metro (Porte de Clichy, metro line number 13) + a 5 mn walk. The street is very quiet, since it is squeezed between the backwall of a large high school and a graveyard. Action is at its peak on weekdays from 12 am to 5 pm. As explained, women will just be seating behind the wheel, you approach them, agree on a price, the open the door and in you climb. No rip-off there, if you are into middle-aged Moroccans with big tits you will be happy as a king. 30 euros for a quick FS. A good spot for a meaty quickie IMHO.

Fourth : Place de Clichy - La Fourche

This area (different from Porte de Clichy) also has its share of Maghrebian street workers. Walk the Boulevard de Clichy between metro stations Place de Clichy and La Fourche and try to spot them. They operate exactly like in my post about Strasbourg St Denis (see link above). Near Place de Clichy you'll find the younger ones (not that many, usually 2), near La Fourche, the older ones (well, not older, just old, I've never tried but they look well in their 60s).

Fifth : Barbes

A word of warning: this area is know as "Paris'own little Third-World corner" and it is exactly that. So, to crawl the place, you need not be afraid of bulks of illigal immigrants trying to sell you counterfeit cigarettes while you exit the Barbes Rochechouart metro station.

The older North African prostitutes you talked about are to be found standing or sitting on the Boulevard Barbes, near a large bank (BNP-Paribas). I have once found a nice 35 year old Moroccan on the chubby side.For a 100 euros you can f... her as many times as you want, very GFE. However ALL other women I have spotted there are in their 60ies or even their 70ies and just look generally dirty. Up to you...

Sixth : the Internet

check this website : [url]http://www.niamodel.com/menuniamodel.php[/url]

It is a directory of escorts in France. Once you enter the website, click on the "Latines et Orientales" link and scroll their ads. "Latines" are Latinas and "Orientales" are Maghrebians.

Have fun.

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

Algeria for Ever,

My gosh. Thank you for that wonderfully detailed post! . Now I'm really counting the days until May. LOL.

Just a few questions about Boulevard Barbes near the bank:

How long have these old Morrocan/Algerian women been there? . How many can I expect to find there?

Do they ever move to other spots or is Barbes their regular fixture?

Do we have to go to a hotel or do they have their own place?

Are they there during the day? . Do the police ever bother them since they are near a bank?

Is there really a market for these types of women?

Thanks again,

J.

Jonathan,

Please find hereafter replies to your questions about Barbes :

How long have these old Morrocan/Algerian women been there? . How many can I expect to find there?

They have been there for ever. Rumor even has it that in their younger days they used to work in the super-cheap brothels of La Chapelle (an area near Barbes that is know predominantly Indo-Sri Lankan) back in the 1960s-70s !

On a standard afternoon, there will be 6 or 7 of them.

Do they ever move to other spots or is Barbes their regular fixture?

Well, they either : sit at a nearby bus stop, just stand there, or walk the Boulevard Barbes, between Barbes and Chateau Rouge metro stations.

Do we have to go to a hotel or do they have their own place?

They usually have their own place (a room or a small appartment in the vicinity).

Are they there during the day?

Yes. They blend into the crowd and leave when shops close, around 8 PM.

Do the police ever bother them since they are near a bank?

The police dont bother them, but be warned, they dont bother the junkies, counterfeit goods sellers and aggressive beggars infesting the area either.

Is there really a market for these types of women?

Honestly, I ask myself the same question. Seems they can stil find a few customers, mostly old retired North-african immigrants (senior men their age) and Black African immigrants with few spare change

(By the way, a word of warning to all Black punters planning a visit to Paris : most ethnic French street workers, especially in Saint Denis street are openly racist. I've heard many told me that they "dont do Arabs and Blacks". In rue Blondel, there is even an informal curfew : no SW is allowed to have Black customers after 10:00 PM. Apparently, gangs of young Blacks and Arabs have repeatedly caused trouble in the area at night, or so a hooker told me. However, if you explain to the lady of your choice that you are an American (or whatever) tourist, and are generally well-dressed and well-behaved, she's likely to change her mind.)

Algeria For Ever,

Very informative. Many thanks again.

One more point:

2 years ago I visited Tunis, Tunisia and went to the red light district just outside the medina on Rue Zarkoun. (For those of you that don't know, prostitution is LEGAL in Tunisia and it's restricted to 3 or 4 streets near the medinas which houses approximately 50 to 70 women)

Anyway, I had been told that the majority of prostitutes there were in their fifties and on the chubby side. Well, yes I found that most of them were chubby but the average age was around 34. Some in their 20's but most were in their early to mid 30's. I didn't find a single 'mature' women. Certainly no one near 50.

So my question is: when you say that the women on Boulevard Barbes near the bus stop, metro or BNP bank are in their 60's (even 70's) do you really mean 60's or do you mean 40's-50's?

Just curious.

Thanks,

J.

[QUOTE=Jonathan76]my question is: when you say that the women on Boulevard Barbes near the bus stop, metro or BNP bank are in their 60's (even 70's) do you really mean 60's or do you mean 40's-50's?[/QUOTE]When I say 60's (and maybe even 70's), I do mean 60's (and maybe even 70's).

In Barbes you can occasionally find a 35-55 year-old, but nothing to write home about (too dirty, too fat, too, too...).

Here is my advice to you as a tourist newbie : stay the f**k clear of Barbes. It is really one of the worst crime-ridden area in Paris and the quality of the women there is sub-zero.

Again, your best bets to find the 30-50 chubby North African women you're looking for are :

- Vans and trucks Rue Rebiere (30 euros for a quickie)

- Rue Saint Denis (50 euros for a standard FS, then, the more you're ready to pay, the more services you receive).

- The part-timers walking the Boulevard de Strasbourg (between Strasbourg St Denis and Chateau d'Eau metro stations) and the Boulevard de Clichy (Between Place de Clichy and La Fourche metro stations). (Hotel room for 30 or 40 euros, starting price for the girl 30 or 40 euros, then the more you pay the more you get and a GFE is very likely).

Important : I hope you know some French or Arabic, because most of these girls dont speak a word of English.

I am shortly visiting Paris for a short break. I am very grateful for the advice on SW's St Denis, Rue Joubert etc and will certainly visit these.

I am however keen to experience a bonk in the back of a van. My problem is that I 'll be on foot/Metro whilst in Paris. Which would be your recommended venue which will provide some choice of providers and I not get put off by blisters on my feet searching. Thanks in anticipation.

Shayman

[QUOTE=Shayman]I am however keen to experience a bonk in the back of a van. My problem is that I 'll be on foot/Metro whilst in Paris. Which would be your recommended venue which will provide some choice of providers and I not get put off by blisters on my feet searching. Thanks in anticipation.[/QUOTE]Shayman,

Most vans are either in the Bois de Boulogne or Bois de Vincennes. If you are not familiar with Paris these places are huge parks on the outskirts of town. Not easily accessible without a car, especially by night.

I know some vans operate on the Boulevard Bruix between Porte Maillot and Porte Dauphine metro stations, but selection is poor and they are rather expensive (50 euros for a pop if my memories are correct).

Then there are the vans on Rebiere street (17th arrondissement or district) we discussed earlier. Essentially Moroccans and Black Africans. Cheap (20 to 30 euros). Not too far from Porte de Clichy metro station (about a 5-10 mn walk, check it on Google Maps).

Maybe Denis and others can help on other spots I dont know about.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Algeria for Ever]When I say 60's (and maybe even 70's), I do mean 60's (and maybe even 70's).

In Barbes you can occasionally find a 35-55 year-old, but nothing to write home about (too dirty, too fat, too, too...).

Here is my advice to you as a tourist newbie : stay the f**k clear of Barbes. It is really one of the worst crime-ridden area in Paris and the quality of the women there is sub-zero.

Again, your best bets to find the 30-50 chubby North African women you're looking for are :

- Vans and trucks Rue Rebiere (30 euros for a quickie)

- Rue Saint Denis (50 euros for a standard FS, then, the more you're ready to pay, the more services you receive).

- The part-timers walking the Boulevard de Strasbourg (between Strasbourg St Denis and Chateau d'Eau metro stations) and the Boulevard de Clichy (Between Place de Clichy and La Fourche metro stations). (Hotel room for 30 or 40 euros, starting price for the girl 30 or 40 euros, then the more you pay the more you get and a GFE is very likely).

Important : I hope you know some French or Arabic, because most of these girls dont speak a word of English.[/QUOTE]Algeria for Ever,

Thanks again. And I appreciate the advice too.

However, I'm a bit sad to hear you say this... Why ?... Because (and I'm embarrassed to say this) I actually LIKE women who are a little bit dirty and a liitle bit 'sleazy'. Depending on my mood I find this appealing.

Your information on Boulevard Barbes even made me reconsider booking a hotel near the Metro Barbes-Rouchart station. It's not definite but I'm still planning.

[QUOTE=Denis]May I had these

6. You can find some cheap SW rue Myrha (next to Barbes) most of the girls are black African , usual deal is 20€ in their place near by (dodgy hotel)
It looks unsafe but it is not, at least during the day.

Happy Hunting

Denis[/QUOTE]I'm a Finnish quy and I was shotly in Paris. Hotel was near of care du Nord, so I went to look at if there is some street action on rue Myrha. Time was after 22. 00, dark at that time.

That was very bad mistake! Dirty street, no any SW at sight. Some black guy was standing on the street with large beercan in hand. I asked; do you now is there any girls in around? , he seid okay, come with me. We went near front of some kind hotel looking house, he seid give me 30 and wait 5 minits. I did so.

No any girl come in 15 minits! I left away and then 3 guys attacked on me. One of them was blond guy, long hairs and fur waiscoat on. I fight my way away, but their quick hands managed stolen from my pocket about 120 eur, 2 condoms, little UK pocketligt and a map of Paris.

So, don't go in there, it is a strap in dark time. Nothing happens!

Paris: RIP

[QUOTE=Kater]I'm a Finnish quy and I was shotly in Paris. Hotel was near of care du Nord, so I went to look at if there is some street action on rue Myrha.

So, don't go in there, it is a strap in dark time.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that my Finnish friend.

This is precisely the reason why I advised Jonathan not to waste time looking for SWs in that part of town.

Rue Myrha (Chateau Rouge metro station) is probably the worst street in France. Other streets in the neighbourhood (Rue de la Goutte d'Or, rue Doudeauville, boulevard Barbes) are in the same league (only difference being that Chateau Rouge is mostly Black whereas Barbes is predominantly Algerian/Moroccan).

Regarding African SWs on Myrha street, local press reported they got busted by the police a few months back.

So, let me repeat this word of advice : If you are a tourist and especially if you are an average white middle-class sort of guy please DO NOT go to Barbes or Chateau Rouge to look for business. This part of the 18th disctrict is really rough (the other part being nice, leafy and touristy Montmartre).

Advising a tourist to look for illegal African hookers at night on rue Myrha is like advising a suburban US white kid to tour the Bronx (NY) or South Central (LA) looking for "sistas". It's just madness.

I once saw an African hooker getting her ass kicked by her drunken pimp in the middle of the street on rue Myrha. Even the police enter these promises cautiously and relunctantly. I've known this area for years and I do not look lily white but I'm still sometimes scared when I walk there alone by night.

You've been warned. Stay safe.

Thanks A for E.

50 euros - I hope it's a nice van!

Cheers

Shayman

Back to basics,

I will be in Paris for one night - have a car - and look for good looking / cheap price girl in Paris. I don't care if she is black, asian or white.

What do you suggest?

HELP!

[QUOTE=Samsarai]Back to basics,

I will be in Paris for one night - have a car - and look for good looking / cheap price girl in Paris. I don't care if she is black, asian or white.

What do you suggest?

HELP![/QUOTE]

Good looking girl, relatively young girl (less than 35) is almost impossible in Paris for less than 150€, if you are lucky...Is this cheap for you?

On the other hand, the service could be more than ok for 50€ on the street...but don't dream to have a good looking girl...

[QUOTE=WontYouBeMyGirl]Good looking girl, relatively young girl (less than 35) is almost impossible in Paris for less than 150€, if you are lucky...Is this cheap for you?

On the other hand, the service could be more than ok for 50€ on the street...but don't dream to have a good looking girl...[/QUOTE]Thanls and sorry, I am back for long stay in Thailand where you find the most expensive and top level one for 1500 bahts (30€) all night long and if you're good for free.

I am still on that price scale!

For 150€ what do I get? One night top level or 30 minutes done dirt cheap? Where: in my hotel or at her place?

And regarding the SW, what do I get ? How ugly is she ?

[QUOTE=Samsarai]Thanls and sorry, I am back for long stay in Thailand where you find the most expensive and top level one for 1500 bahts (30€) all night long and if you're good for free.

I am still on that price scale!

For 150€ what do I get? One night top level or 30 minutes done dirt cheap? Where: in my hotel or at her place?

And regarding the SW, what do I get ? How ugly is she ?[/QUOTE]

Ok, if you come from Thailand as I did recently, and if you're only in Paris for one night, you may consider to save your money for another place where mongering is a decent hobby.

150€ will get you one hour. I've never seen night for less than 500€. And the service is usually hit or miss, unless you're able to read French and pick your choice on [url]www.niamodel.com[/url].

SW are...as ugly as you can imagine. Usually old. "Young" SW in Paris is a word for "between 30 and 40" in the best case scenario.

Just to give you a rough idea of the prices, in Paris a massage + HJ is NEVER less than 120€.

We guys are saving money to monger abroad :'(

Algeria For Ever,

Quick update:

I am leaving for Paris on May 24 and I'll be staying at a modest hotel near city center (Boulevard Hausmann). Luckily, I'll be able to attend 1 or 2 days at Roland Garros tournament too!

I definitely plan on visiting the Boulevard de Barbes. But don't worry, I am going to be very careful and discreet and ONLY go in the afternoon.

Yes, I remember where - the Barbes metro near the BNP Paribas bank.

BUT I remember you saying that they blend into the crowd. Is that true? So do they dress or behave in a certain way?

In other words: HOW would I find/identify them with so many people around?

Thanks so much.

[QUOTE=Jonathan76]Algeria For Ever,

Quick update:

I am leaving for Paris on May 24 and I'll be staying at a modest hotel near city center (Boulevard Hausmann). Luckily, I'll be able to attend 1 or 2 days at Roland Garros tournament too!

I definitely plan on visiting the Boulevard de Barbes. But don't worry, I am going to be very careful and discreet and ONLY go in the afternoon.

Yes, I remember where - the Barbes metro near the BNP Paribas bank.

BUT I remember you saying that they blend into the crowd. Is that true? So do they dress or behave in a certain way?

In other words: HOW would I find/identify them with so many people around?

Thanks so much.[/QUOTE]


Dear Jonathan,

If you are Boulevard Hausmann, you are REALLY near rue Joubert. There is one or two girls you'd like there as well. Be sure to explore this part of the city. There is two girls you'd be interested in rue de Budapest, near Saint Lazare...a 10 min walk from your hotel

Happy Mongering

WUBMG

At least I can confirm that Irma La Douce lives. I had a two night stay in Paris and offer my thanks for assistance from this Forum.

I had no car and only a 3 day metro ticket as my chariot. By chance I was there on an election weekend which may have made a difference. Bars shut at 10pm on the Sunday.

Areas I visited

Rue Joubert 11am Sat 5 ladies 4pm Sat 3 11pm Sat 0

Rue Budapest 3.30pm Sat 0 10.45pm Sat 2

Rue Barbes and Rue Myra None spotted but very busy and lots of pedestrians on Sat afternoon

Pigalle one seen late Saturday (what a change from 40 years ago when on my first visit)

Rue St Denis Fairly well populated at most times of the day, especially Rue Blondel. No hassle from the shops and shows. Virtually no door persons.

SW’s at Metro Strasbourg St Denis several Algerian/ Balkan types on Saturday and Sunday never saw any business transacted. Chinese doing laps of the junction at all times.

Porte Dauphine lots of vans (easy walk from the Metro and along to Porte Maillot via Briux)

Porte Doree 2 Chinese seen by the cemetery Sunday pm.

Naturally I thought St Denis and Porte Dauphine best places for pick up.

St Denis prices ranged from 80 to 50. I sampled 3. 1 very trim and pleasant lady mid 40’s lovely legs and slim figure and very pleasant (60 euro). The second mid 50’s exceptional figure and legs (hikes to 5th floor room would help) again 60 Euro. Black girl late 20’s very energetic but rushed service 50.

I was amazed at the builds of some of the older ladies good legs and enormous tits. Defied the laws of gravity on high heels. A good case study for structural engineers.

Porte Dauphine Lady in see through nightdress and bra and pants underneath! 20 for enthusiastic BJ. Vans there on Sunday evening but not occupied.

Chinese girl absolutely stunning from S/St Denis Metro area. 2 stops on Metro to rough hotel (35) She charged 100 and was worth every centime. That was Monday noon. I price checked an older Chinese the night before at 40 Euro.

Final thoughts plenty of diamonds to be found if you take your time. As a veteran of Brazil Argentina and the Far East I much prefer the long time rather than the short time but I enjoyed looking and sampling. I even saw one old girl with a poodle so Irma la Douce still lives.

Shayman

I passed yesterday by 7.30pm around Porte de Saint Mandé cimitery and Porte Dorée , many ladies out , saw at least 20 Chineses and couple of pretty youngs ones, did not try any.

Guys, it is rare to find a girl of such GFE quality in France. Melissa is a black chick from Cabo Verde, so she is a mix between Africa and Brazil. Good looking, good kisser, enthusiastic BBBJ, fun conversation and fun sex. She is close to perfect! She doesn't take anal, but ... I am certain that with some sweetness and by being a more regular customer ... then she would take it.
Looks: 8/10. Service: 9/10. Budget: 250€ (not a clock watcher).
[url]http://www.niamodel.com/pp.php?n=805[/url]
Regards to you all

[QUOTE=WontYouBeMyGirl]Dear Jonathan,

If you are Boulevard Hausmann, you are REALLY near rue Joubert. There is one or two girls you'd like there as well. Be sure to explore this part of the city. There is two girls you'd be interested in rue de Budapest, near Saint Lazare...a 10 min walk from your hotel

Happy Mongering

WUBMG[/QUOTE]Thanks WUBMG. I'll certainly check it out.

By the way, have you ever been to Boulevard Barbes?

Shayman - recent reporters ;

All of your reports merely back up what a number of us have been saying for some time now.

Paris for mongering effectively died a death...3/4 years ago.

All we are left with are the old, the ugly, the hugely over priced and the down right dangerous.

It really is such a huge hit and miss affair......the chances of a happy outcome are very low.


But, respect to all the guys who give it a go, some local reporters have a far better success/satisfaction rate than the rest of us.....but thats typical.

Thanks, guys.

I will be in Paris at the end of July.

Could someone give me the name of one of the budget hotels near to Rue st Denis please?

[QUOTE=Jonathan76]Thanks WUBMG. I'll certainly check it out.

By the way, have you ever been to Boulevard Barbes?[/QUOTE]

I sadly started my mongering career in Paris after rue Myrha was cleaned...and never spotted a girl Boulevard Barbès.

The new President won't make things easier in France...

[QUOTE=Olwilber]I will be in Paris at the end of July.

Could someone give me the name of one of the budget hotels near to Rue st Denis please?[/QUOTE]

The cheapest French Hotel is called "Formule 1" [url]www.hotelformule1.com[/url], but they don't have any hotel downtown. The closest one from Saint Denis Street is Formule 1 Paris Porte de Montreuil (41€ per night), not because it is the closest, by it has a direct subway line (number 9) from "Porte de Montreuil" to "Strasbourg Saint Denis".

You'll find hotel at around 60€ per night right next to the Saint Denis Street, but they are mainly used for mongering purposes. It depends if you just want to use them or to stay there!

Happy Mongering

WUBMG

Does anybody knows a good place (bar/club) where to meet girls/freelancers looking for men. I was recently at the Scala (Rivoli 188), I had the impression that some girls where looking for some action. I did not check.

[QUOTE=Largow]Does anybody knows a good place (bar/club) where to meet girls/freelancers looking for men. I was recently at the Scala (Rivoli 188), I had the impression that some girls where looking for some action. I did not check.[/QUOTE]

Scala is the best place in Paris to find "occasionnelles" meaning girls who seldom accept p4p. One punter explained on a French board that you just have to put a price (generally 150-200€) and you'll get your answer right away :p

[QUOTE=WontYouBeMyGirl]Scala is the best place in Paris to find "occasionnelles" meaning girls who seldom accept p4p. One punter explained on a French board that you just have to put a price (generally 150-200€) and you'll get your answer right away :p[/QUOTE]
Scala has a reputation for being one of the places where one can pick up young non-pro girls who occasionnally will play for pay. These have traditionnally been African girls. However, recently, Asian girls have joined the provider set. Prices can go up to €300 plus hotel.

Beware however, as it has a reputation of drawing a very young teenage crowd (from 15 to 19 years-old). This may depends on days of the week, and if it is an afternoon hours or late evening hours.

Older providers (20 to 30 years old) can be found in the discotheques of international hotels, where they prospect international businessmen or tourists. Sometimes they ask for outrageous prices, but they quickly back up if you remind them of the price they post for their services on the French internet boards.

Regards. BB.

Hello all,

I am here to announce that I will not be traveling to Paris after all. (My original plan was to leave this Thursday)

After reading several reports on the Brazil forum and at the suggestions of its' many experienced members I have concluded that my best chances of finding my ideal honey - white, fat-assed, middle-aged, with a 'motherly look' - is in Sao Paolo.

Furthermore, I understand that Brazilian women are the least sexually inhibited when it comes to butt caressing.

Perhaps next year I will visit the North African women in Paris.

Thank you all,

J.

[QUOTE=Largow]Does anybody knows a good place (bar/club) where to meet girls/freelancers looking for men. I was recently at the Scala (Rivoli 188), I had the impression that some girls where looking for some action. I did not check.[/QUOTE]Check the Keur Samba at 79 rue Boétie nearby the champs-élysée. Its a disco where you can find pseudo freelancers.

The silence here makes me wonder:

Did I make the wrong choice in changing destinations ?

[QUOTE=Jonathan76]The silence here makes me wonder:

Did I make the wrong choice in changing destinations ?[/QUOTE]

No, Jo76. Nothing to wonder, everything as usual.

I imagine that the people in this board, got a bit pissed off with what you said...

You asked I can't remember how many questions, the forumers here answered politely, with full details, to all your repetitive questions... Again and again, to all you repetitive inquiries...

Then you say you changed destination, because you think that elsewhere it's better for your tastes.

Ok, no problem, go wherever you want, it's your right.

But don't expect further comments, or suggestions, or discussions on YOUR choice... at least not in the Paris board...

In Italy they say: "What do you want more? A slice of ass?", meaning that when it's enough it's enough....

Go where you want, enjoy your trip, and if you want please post your experiences, to share with the others (in the appropriate board of course).

Stop

Member 1006,

I apologize, and to everyone else here on the Paris board.

Seriously.

Good Decision

JOHATHAN76, You do not want to go to Paris for women.

Stick to South and Central American. also the DR.

And never ever worry about what someone says on this site.

Cap!

Hi guys.

I was reading all long this forum and I now decided to sign up and to answer to some threads.

I am from Paris, so if YOU guyrs are looking for some nice chicks here in Paris there are some good and reliable directories with professionnal escort and occasional nice girls whom I had already tried some ones.

I hope you won't have a lot of difficultes to browse a French website? My best reference is:

[url]http://www.missive.info/contact.php?geo=FR&p=2[/url]

you just answer "OK" to the popup windows ( no new window will arrive )
and here you can browse in the area :

# Escort Girl reçoit means Escort girl receiving at her home
# Escort Girl se déplace can join you in your hotel
# Escort Girl reçoit et se déplace both join or at her home
# Escort Girl accompagnement club if you wanna club in some sex clubs

You can then filter by city and choose Paris, it is very explicite several girls have their own website in the add when you read.

Prices can go from 100€ for one hour to more expensive.

Good range girls can be 150 or 200€. You can also rest for a night

Some of the girls announce the price in their website (look at he bottow of the ad) WWW Cliquer ici

I hope this can help you guys

If you have any questions, do not hesitate to ask for

Cheers

NE

I was in Paris this weekend and the street action was terrible, old and ugly everywhere in the rld. There is a lot to see in Paris but don`t go there for the sex. I don`t speak French so I cant communicate with the girls in the different ads.

London is heaven compared to Paris, I was there 1 month ago, fantastic!

William

I use to stay overnight at CDG Airport Hotels every 4-6 weeks while traveling for my offshore job. Could somebody recommend how and where to meet some nice WGs in Roissy or close to Charles de Gaule Airport as none action is observed inside the hotel lobbies and/or bars.

[QUOTE=Member #]Thank you Nothingelse and all the others for the informative posts. I am a senior member on the US board but am new to the international board.

Can anyone recommend a good échangiste club / swingers club that allows single males? I have seen several websites that list clubs, but they are either several years old, or do not provide any reviews. Also, will I have any trouble as I speak very little french (but am learning!) Thanks again for all the help![/QUOTE]
If you search in this thread you will find alot of reports on clubs that accept single men from myself and others. There's also a listing by Routard which is farily up to date, although by no means comprehensive as there are clubs opening and closing in Paris all the time.
For a single man, a key to success at any swinger club is your ability to develop a rapport with the couples, so it's a lot better if you can speak some French. On nights that single men are allowed, there are usually alot of them, and unless you're only looking for slam bam gang bang type of action, you'll find yourself back in your hotel room with dick in hand.

Njoy

Hi,

I thought I'the add a report of my own recent experiences on the Rue St Denis in Paris. All these experiences happened in the last two months.

I've been visiting Paris for years now, but only recently started sampling the delights of Parisian pussy.

Rue St Denis is a mixed bag monger-wise; if you're persistent [ which means pacing the street [s] for a couple hours ] you'll get lucky, but if you 're impatient and hope to pick up a girl in the 7s and upwards, you'll be disappointed.

Case in point: in April this year [ 2007 ] I was cruising the Rue St Denis from around 11:00pm onwards, mid-week, and saw the usual lot: over-weight, black, battered-looking tramps you'the be insane to go with, mostly on the Rue Blondel, but also of course on the Rue St Denis, standing in doorways.

BUT, around midnight on the Rue Blondel, I picked up a '10'! Slim, blonde [ genuine blonde! ], well-spoken with quite good English, early thirties, who took me up a couple flights of stairs, [ half-way along Blondel on the south side of the street], to her room on the top floor. Clean, with a bathroom, bed with mirrors, full-sex and blow-job, tickled my balls and the crack of my ass, thirty minutes. All for 60 Euros! Great experience. Don't remember her name, and haven't seen her again, but would recognise her straight away if I do, the total opposite of most of the women in this area.

Second experience, one month later: had been out til late, was walking back to my hotel along Boulevard Strasbourg, decided on the off-chance to try Blondel and St Denis, not hoping for much.

Only one girl on Blondel [ this was at 3 in the morning ], but as soon as I turned onto Rue St Denis, my radar spiked and saw a young girl pacing up and down the street, talking to a guy in his 40s. Walked over, said hello, asked the price [ 40 Euros ] and decided 'yes'. This girl was young [ lte twenties, with dark, somewhat-pitted skin, a good figure in jeans and a black top, really had something about her ]. Was led down a covered alley, inbetween buildings, to the very back, to a stone staircase [ in a strange little dug-out in the wall were two guys huddled round a fire, who looked at me with some amazement! ] and up the stone stairs to the top. A black girl with another white punter had preceded us, and she led him to the back of the hall at the top, and round a corner.

As they got down to it out of sight, she took my pants down, put a condom on, and gave for a good ten minutes, great head. When I was rock-hard, she stood up, turned round, took her jeans down, and guided me in. By now, the noise from around the corner was so loud from both of them, that I was really turned on, and similarly vocal. After a couple minutes, I came inside her, hiked up my pants, and she led me back down the stairs.

Said 'bon nuit', and wandered back to my hotel in the 1st, a very happy punter. Awesome experience. If you've got the nerve to venture into a dark alley in the middle of the night, highly-recommended.

Rue St Denis. Perseverence and patience pays off!

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

Good for you Tantallon. Indeed, that's the way it works around Rue St Denis: if you are patient enough to close your eyes in front of 90% of the girls, the remaining 10% are worth it. Hopefully that will go on.

[QUOTE=Nothingelse]Hi guys.

I was reading all long this forum and I now decided to sign up and to answer to some threads.

I am from Paris, so if YOU guyrs are looking for some nice chicks here in Paris there are some good and reliable directories with professionnal escort and occasional nice girls whom I had already tried some ones.

I hope you won't have a lot of difficultes to browse a French website? My best reference is:

[url]http://www.missive.info/contact.php?geo=FR&p=2[/url]

you just answer "OK" to the popup windows ( no new window will arrive )
and here you can browse in the area :

# Escort Girl reçoit means Escort girl receiving at her home
# Escort Girl se déplace can join you in your hotel
# Escort Girl reçoit et se déplace both join or at her home
# Escort Girl accompagnement club if you wanna club in some sex clubs

You can then filter by city and choose Paris, it is very explicite several girls have their own website in the add when you read.

Prices can go from 100€ for one hour to more expensive.

Good range girls can be 150 or 200€. You can also rest for a night

Some of the girls announce the price in their website (look at he bottow of the ad) WWW Cliquer ici

I hope this can help you guys

If you have any questions, do not hesitate to ask for

Cheers

NE[/QUOTE]This is a great piece of information. Thank you.

I've been reading this forum with increasing despair. Seems like most contributors only explore the street scene. And the reports are discouraging. Avoid Paris, seems to be the advice.

But where is the city of love? Well, this report from NE points to a site that resembles CL in North America: and it contains a lot of ads for local girls. No doubt this will be hit or miss, as is CL, but it's a better start than walking the streets of Pigalle.

Now, my request to the local experts in Paris is - can you give us some advice on the many websites posted here? There seem to be lots of attractive women there, and the prices are comparable with most major centres I have seen.

Some of them are in English.

Are there any reviews, for example, of the stunning Irina who has a website there (don't know if Jackson will let me post it)?

She's at [url]http://irina25.ifrance.com/Sexyyyy1/[/url]

The reviews in many other cities on this service feauture the agency scene not just the street scene. Seems to be missing here.

I'll report when I can, but some help from others would make this forum much more valuable.

[QUOTE=Jovon]This is a great piece of information. Thank you.

I've been reading this forum with increasing despair. Seems like most contributors only explore the street scene. And the reports are discouraging. Avoid Paris, seems to be the advice.

But where is the city of love? Well, this report from NE points to a site that resembles CL in North America: and it contains a lot of ads for local girls. No doubt this will be hit or miss, as is CL, but it's a better start than walking the streets of Pigalle.

Now, my request to the local experts in Paris is - can you give us some advice on the many websites posted here? There seem to be lots of attractive women there, and the prices are comparable with most major centres I have seen.

Some of them are in English.

Are there any reviews, for example, of the stunning Irina who has a website there (don't know if Jackson will let me post it)?

She's at [url]http://irina25.ifrance.com/Sexyyyy1/[/url]

The reviews in many other cities on this service feauture the agency scene not just the street scene. Seems to be missing here.

I'll report when I can, but some help from others would make this forum much more valuable.[/QUOTE]

Jovon,

The most reliable website for Escort girls in France is [url]www.niamodel.com[/url].

I would recommend you to use the "recherche" (search) link on top of the page.

In "ville" (town) search box, type in "Paris",

[QUOTE=Jovon]This is a great piece of information. Thank you.

I've been reading this forum with increasing despair. Seems like most contributors only explore the street scene. And the reports are discouraging. Avoid Paris, seems to be the advice.

But where is the city of love? Well, this report from NE points to a site that resembles CL in North America: and it contains a lot of ads for local girls. No doubt this will be hit or miss, as is CL, but it's a better start than walking the streets of Pigalle.

Now, my request to the local experts in Paris is - can you give us some advice on the many websites posted here? There seem to be lots of attractive women there, and the prices are comparable with most major centres I have seen.

Some of them are in English.

Are there any reviews, for example, of the stunning Irina who has a website there (don't know if Jackson will let me post it)?

She's at [url]http://irina25.ifrance.com/Sexyyyy1/[/url]

The reviews in many other cities on this service feauture the agency scene not just the street scene. Seems to be missing here.

I'll report when I can, but some help from others would make this forum much more valuable.[/QUOTE]

Jovon,

The most reliable website for Escort girls in France is [url]www.niamodel.com[/url].

I would recommend you to use the "recherche" (search) link on top of the page.

In "ville" (town) search box, type in "Paris", and if you wish (type=european, cheveux(hair)=blond...)

Some of them speak English. Let me know if you need more info.

Spent a week there in late June. Stayed near the Arc de Triumphe.
The late night girls in the cars in the street surrounding the Arc were a bit older and the lowest I could get them to go was 80 for a blow job in the car. The street walkers wanted 150 to go for an hour plus in my hotel room. A few good looking ones but I did not partake.

Also toured the Rue St Denis a few times and various times of the day and night. Like Tantallon said, Rue St Denis is a mixed bag if you spend enough time you can probably find something good but the ladies I saw were overwhelming well past their expiry date. I did run into a couple of young ones late one night but the prices were up there and they wanted to lead me away somewhere.

After propositioniong a few girls from the fashion shops outside on their breaks that I mistook for hookers, I did manage to find one to go with that was not bad. Up a flight of stairs to an airconditioned room with a toilet, sink mirror and bed. 60 for a suck and fuck. Started to go for her breasts (her most appealing feature) and she told me it would be 15 for that and 15 more if I wanted more than one position. I declined, put my dick in her and pounded away in mish until I came. Not the best experience.

Another option I considered was one of the massage joints further down the street. The address and the name of the place was either 119 or 199. I spent a good deal of time hanging out there one night in the little bar beside the place and talking to the guy that was in charge of the parlour that night. His name was Moses, originally from Senegal. Good guy. On offer was a massage with a hj for various time periods. The lowest cost 50. Moses said that the girl would do anything, BJ, sex, anal for extra. He showed me the room at the top of the stairs. Very nice room. A couple of decent looking girls working there. Did not try it but perhaps next visit. Anyone deal with one iof these places?

Out for now.

is there peep shows with girls stripping in paris???

[quote=tom gueguen]is there peep shows with girls stripping in paris???[/quote]
yes there are along saint denis or pigalle. they also have an hourly fuck show. at 1 euro per minute, this is not fully unreasonable.
but never believe in hiring one of the girl for 30-50 euros as you will be proposed; this is a scam and you surely will never be serviced (unlike germany but as surely as in a soho bar)

[QUOTE=Jovon]
.....
Are there any reviews, for example, of the stunning Irina who has a website there (don't know if Jackson will let me post it)?

She's at [url]http://irina25.ifrance.com/Sexyyyy1/[/url]
.....
[/QUOTE]

Yes, but you should understand French :

1) [url]http://www.youppie.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2230[/url] (website with ISG design) - You should apply but it's free

2) [url]http://www.escortfr.net/1681622/viewtopic.php?t=23098&highlight=irina[/url]

Hello,

I'm new to the forum, and I'm curious about things going on in Paris.

Today I found [url]http://www.renata-massage.com/[/url]

Looks for me to good to be true. Has anybody experience with her?

Merci!

Marc

[QUOTE=Mufu]Yes there are along Saint Denis or Pigalle. They also have an hourly fuck show. At 1 euro per minute, this is not fully unreasonable.
But never believe in hiring one of the girl for 30-50 euros as you will be proposed; this is a scam and you surely will never be serviced (unlike Germany but as surely as in a Soho bar)[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info.

Are they the kind you put a coin in a machine?

And how nice are the girls stripping?

kevtjam and everybody,

NEVER EVER go to these places. They are 100% rip-off. They will take as much money as possible from you and you'll get nothing in return. You've been warned.


[QUOTE=kevtjam]Spent a week there in late June. Stayed near the Arc de Triumphe.
The late night girls in the cars in the street surrounding the Arc were a bit older and the lowest I could get them to go was 80 for a blow job in the car. The street walkers wanted 150 to go for an hour plus in my hotel room. A few good looking ones but I did not partake.

Also toured the Rue St Denis a few times and various times of the day and night. Like Tantallon said, Rue St Denis is a mixed bag if you spend enough time you can probably find something good but the ladies I saw were overwhelming well past their expiry date. I did run into a couple of young ones late one night but the prices were up there and they wanted to lead me away somewhere.

After propositioniong a few girls from the fashion shops outside on their breaks that I mistook for hookers, I did manage to find one to go with that was not bad. Up a flight of stairs to an airconditioned room with a toilet, sink mirror and bed. 60 for a suck and fuck. Started to go for her breasts (her most appealing feature) and she told me it would be 15 for that and 15 more if I wanted more than one position. I declined, put my dick in her and pounded away in mish until I came. Not the best experience.

Another option I considered was one of the massage joints further down the street. The address and the name of the place was either 119 or 199. I spent a good deal of time hanging out there one night in the little bar beside the place and talking to the guy that was in charge of the parlour that night. His name was Moses, originally from Senegal. Good guy. On offer was a massage with a hj for various time periods. The lowest cost 50. Moses said that the girl would do anything, BJ, sex, anal for extra. He showed me the room at the top of the stairs. Very nice room. A couple of decent looking girls working there. Did not try it but perhaps next visit. Anyone deal with one iof these places?

Out for now.[/QUOTE]

I am new to the Paris forum and after reading 2 years of posts it seems clear that one does not go to Paris to monger. I personally have not mongered in Paris for years either, saving my resources for places that offer better value in Asia and South America.

But if you are already in Paris, have had it with the monuments and are looking for entertainment, an alternative to actual sex might be to go watch a "spectacle erotique", i.e a sex show. Unlike those of Amsterdam and other European capitals, Paris' sex shows can be pretty good and very sensual. My favorite theater is "Chochotte", at 34 rue St Andre des Arts at Metro St Michel. It is an intimate venue, the girls are usually beautiful and very sensual and occasionally walk out of the stage to come flirt with the audience. Another plus is that the theater is in the middle of the Latin (student) Quarter, as opposed to the sleazy red light districts in Pigalle or Rue St Denis. Entrance is 50 Euros and you can stay and watch the show for as long as you like, with no pressure.

Show Girls and Theatre Oriental (at the Sexodrome in Pigalle) should be worth a try, unfortunately both were closed today Monday. Theatre Oriental might have been a good show based on several positive reviews in the French Press. By the way, sex shows, as well as swingers clubs (Clubs Libertins) are all listed in the last pages of the local Pariscope guide, which is available from any newsstand for 40 cents. And there is currently an ad in Pariscope that will allow you to get into Theatre Oriental for half price (20 Euros instead of 40) upon presentation of said ad.

Theatre Oriental is within a complex called Sexodrome (across the street from Moon City, which has already been reported on). Sexodrome advertises a sauna, hammam, a bar for singles to meet and most surprisingly a "glory hole" on the second floor, which if I am not mistaken is a ho' in the wall, I mean a hole in the wall used for sexual purposes. Does anyone know if that is true and if the club only provides the wall or also the lady on the other side? I did notice that entrance to the second floor is 10 Euros and that includes a condom. I would be interested to hear further about this place if anyone has tried it.

I am going to take a look around the Arc de Triomphe and avenue de la Grande Armee tonight, will let you know if I come across any opportunity or if the scene is as dead as reported.

Mahal

[QUOTE=Zycke]kevtjam and everybody,

NEVER EVER go to these places. They are 100% rip-off. They will take as much money as possible from you and you'll get nothing in return. You've been warned.[/QUOTE]Good to know. Thanks for the warning.

[QUOTE=Mahal]Sexodrome advertises a sauna, hammam, a bar for singles to meet and most surprisingly a "glory hole" on the second floor, which if I am not mistaken is a ho' in the wall, I mean a hole in the wall used for sexual purposes. Does anyone know if that is true and if the club only provides the wall or also the lady on the other side? I did notice that entrance to the second floor is 10 Euros and that includes a condom. I would be interested to hear further about this place if anyone has tried it.[/QUOTE]I have seen it once in Paris (I'm not that much experienced anyway) and it turned out that the guy on the other side appearantly did a very nice job. But [i]surprisingly[/i] I didn't feel it so I went home :)
According to what I saw on Paris scene, I guess that's the case in many many clubs. I mean, especially the ones that are not that hard to get on when you're a single male. Of course that doesn't include swingers club where you can realise pretty much whatever fantasy can cross your mind, provided you bring the champagne.

About a Month ago I was oin Paris.

Girls are vailable near Arc de Triumph (on the road that runs all the way round it a 1/2 block from the man arcdetriumphe plaza.

Found a black student from Kenya who I took back to hotel. Starting price 200 but I said I only had 100. Finalised on 110 Euroes (inc her taxi fare back).

On the circle was another african girl, but said i would get back to her-but seh dissapeared also would accept 100

the parisian scene has dramatically changed since 2003 and the tough law against prostitution. the eastern european street hookers have nearly all disappeared, the pick-up bars like the notorious le baron as well as the massage parlours have all been closed. the remaining hookers are now on internet.

i was in paris and decided to check out what is left over from the street action. i drove by car all along the périphérique intérieur north between porte de bercy and porte dauphine. these boulevards, especially the boulevard des marechaux on the east side were full of eastern european street hookers. incredible, but i couldn’t spot not even one.

as i arrived on the west side of paris, i decided to check out a second area, notorious for higher class street hookers. i drove all around the outer ring of the arc de triomphe on rue tilsitt and presbourg, but again no sign of any kind of action. i checked out also avenue victor hugo and avenue foch, but couldn’t spot not even one hooker.

the bois de boulogne was not far away, but i didn’t try to check this place out, it was only notorious for tv.

i realized that trying to find street action was a tough mission, and i needed local expertise. i contacted through [url]www.youppie.net[/url] one of the best expert of the parisian street action, the famous paul verlaine. we had a rendez-vous in the afternoon on one of the terraces of a typical parisian café in belleville. i arrived with a “guide du routard” travel guide and he was waiting for me with a “contes erotiques de paul verlaine” roman. we introduced ourselves and he handed me over a encrypted floppy disk with useful phone numbers of working girls. i love this secret agent atmosphere.

paul verlaine offered me to have a walk around in the neighbour. belleville is now a typical chinatown in the middle of paris. paul verlaine explained me about the chinese underground business in this neighbour while walking on rue de belleville, very interesting. we crossed boulevard de belleville and arrived on faubourg du temple. here is were there is chinese street action during daytime. paul verlaine showed me two chinese street hookers. i would never had found it myself, they looked like two average women doing shopping. we stopped in front of a bar named jean bart facing rue de la presentation (which means “show street” btw). jean bart was a legendary pirate, notorious as he was a gentleman that didn’t [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] women during his strikes. this is the major spot where the street hookers are waiting, but probably these chinese are not aware of this story. and indeed if you stay watching for a while, you notice a couple of chinese women that are waiting. they won’t make the first move, but there is no doubt. paul verlaine told me that pricing is around 30-40€ and that they usually have a dirty room nearby, else they know a nasty hotel where to go. paul verlaine advised me to bring own condoms as well as own towel, but these chinese didn’t exactly turn me on. they were around 40 years old and not very best looking anymore.

we decided to continue to strasbourg saint denis area. at the cross point of boulevard saint denis and rue saint denis there is a small arc de triomphe named porte saint denis. this is the main area of strasbourg saint denis street action. i guess i became to get used to this discrete scene, i soon noticed by myself the chinese working girls. again they didn’t exactly turned me on. but then we found a few other working girls waiting in the passage du prado that looked much younger. they were probably northern african or romanian, hard to say. we walked till boulevard de strasbourg and i noticed that most hookers discretely smiled at paul verlaine. he confirmed me that indeed most girls knew him. he had even for each girl a nick name, and he showed me each one and giving a short description. this area looked much better as girls seemed younger and from different origins. we decided to take a hamburger at the nearby mac donald, the best place to watch the scene.

i guess most people in the streets had no idea about what was going on here. the girls seemed so discrete and only regular mongerers could detect them. i wondered how the girls manage to get enough customers, and indeed they didn’t seem to work a lot. till now, none of them had turned me on, but i noticed a much younger blonde romanian girl with a baseball cap. i asked paul verlaine, but he didn’t know her, she seemed new in the business. i soon saw her approaching a man and both disappeared in the metro station. lucky guy.

we finished our tour in the historical street action area of rue saint denis. in the old days, all rue saint denis was full of hookers, but now only the northern part of it as well as rue blondel have street action. but the scene is pitiful. most “girls” are around 60, paul verlaine told me he knows a few of them that are still working here since that he was a young soldier in the army. the tough laws have had no effect on this scene as it has been going on for centuries. the action is obvious, most women working here are french, and most apartments around belong to them.

i decided i had seen enough. it was still a nice meeting with paul verlaine and an interesting visit of what is left over from what used to be once the lively parisian street action.

[QUOTE=Routard]The Parisian scene has dramatically changed since 2003 .[/QUOTE]


Man,man, man.....no wonder see your posts everything in Wester European forums. Back to here?

For street actions, I'm not so familiar. When I was in France, I spent most of the time with city tour. But you should check out Bois de Boulogne, that's really exciting and interesting places. I've been there many times, sometimes not for mongering, just for fun. I just feel I'm like a solider and hunting in the jungle. haha.

But u'r right, Sakozy boys made France like a dead country now.

[QUOTE=Xavier Yves]Man,man, man.....no wonder see your posts everything in Wester European forums. Back to here?
[/QUOTE]

Don't worry, it was just for a short stay, I'm again far away!

[QUOTE=Xavier Yves]

But u'r right, Sakozy boys made France like a dead country now.[/QUOTE]

True.....his was the final nail in coffin of the sex industry in Paris.....


R.I.P

Through reading your reports, I've understood that the scene in Paris is very difficult!

My interests would lie with students (ocassionneles) or escorts, rather than streetwalkers.

In November, I'll be in Paris to celebrate my birthday (not on the exact date, but...).

I'd like to find an escort and, in the past, I remember reading about an agency that specialized in Eastern European girls (perhaps all Czeck), and many looked very good!

My problem is that I can't remember the name of the agency--- it was something like Club 111, but I've tried searching for that and similar names, but I can't find it. Do any of you know the correct name for that agency?

By the way, I have found an agency which is based in Geneva, but supplies girls to Paris, Lyon, Nice, etc.--- but the prices begin at 650 euros for an hour! Any experience with these "Golden Pussies"--- remember, this is my birthday treat!!!

I think that club111 doesn't exist anymore

there are a lot of eastern europe based agencies sending girls on tour to Paris, but most of them doesn't have a good reputation

some examples :

[url]www.czech-ladybird.com[/url]
[url]www.olivia-escorts.net[/url]
[url]www.chic-escorts.net[/url]
[url]www.zsexygirls.com[/url]
[url]www.outcall-e.com[/url]

My advice is to look at the Brussels based agencies. Brussels is not so far from Paris (some 300 km) and there are plenty of serious agencies in this town. They also can send girls to Paris.

Look for example :

[url]www.hc-companions.com[/url]
[url]www.femmesfatales-escort.com[/url]
[url]www.elite-models.be[/url]
[url]www.glamourcompany.com[/url]

You can also try independent escorts from Brussels who, for sure can travel to Paris. You will find them on sites such as :

[url]www.declic.org[/url]
[url]www.oohlala.be[/url]

In France, escort agencies are forbidden, but this in not the case in Brussels (Belgium).

If you understand some french, have also a look to this very good forum : [url]www.youppie.net[/url]

Stano

Many thanks for your helpful and detailed reply to my questions, and for the warning about the agencies that specialize in Eastern Europe girls!

[QUOTE=Stano]There are a lot of eastern europe based agencies sending girls on tour to Paris, but most of them doesn't have a good reputation

some examples :

[url]www.czech-ladybird.com[/url]
[url]www.olivia-escorts.net[/url]
[url]www.chic-escorts.net[/url]
[url]www.zsexygirls.com[/url]
[url]www.outcall-e.com[/url]

Stano[/QUOTE]From your experience, can you recommend one of them? any recommendations of a specific Belgian agency?

Greetings to you all!

I'm planing on making a 5 to 7 days trip to Paris next year and I'm in search of informations about what to do there. All museums and sights aside, one of the things I'm really looking froward is the night sex life. Something that's not possible to find in country I come from (Bosnia and Herzegovina. You can read the reviews of our non-existing pay-for-sex life on the forum).

I have absolutely no knowledge of the situation in Paris so do forgive me if I sound a bit I'll-informed.

I would be traveling by foot so I'm wondering is it possible to find a girl that will take you to her flat/room? I assume that's the cheaper option than taking her to my hotel room?

Other reports mention having sex in the car/SUV. I'm really not comfortable with that and would rather do it on a proper bed.

Is there a third possibility?

Now, the girls. Are they local or are they from eastern Europe, Asia or Africa?

How old are they? Is it possible to find a girl in. Let's say 25. 35 years old? Or are the girls on the streets all older then that?

And finally. How much does this kind of service cost? I'm hoping to find a (relatively) handsome girl who knows how to pleasure a customer. I'm not looking for escort service but. I don't know. I don't have much money (I would spend up to 100 euros) and I know that small amount of money means small amount of pleasure. What can I get for this money?

Anyway, sorry for a bit longer post.

Thank you in advance for any help.

Filip

[QUOTE=Jiggiebau]What can I get for this money?
[/QUOTE]

Not much.

May I ask you why we make the efforts here to write detailed reports if you don't even read those who are just a few posts away?

All the answers are in these posts. Stano gave a complete overview of the escort scene and I gave a complete overview of the street scene. And that's it, don't expect much more in Paris.

I am planing to book an escort for a day or 2 for a trip to Paris. Probably it will be from one of the former EE countries due to costs. It will be for me my first experience in this type of relation.

Now here is my "newbie" question:

How should I behave? let's say I have to go to a meeting, and can't take her with me. Can I leave her at the hotel or apartment without any fear for my valuables? Would it be considered unpolite to leave her alone at all?

Sorry for my unexperienced concerns, I hope to learn from the vets.

[QUOTE=Routard]May I ask you why we make the efforts here to write detailed reports if you don't even read those who are just a few posts away?[/QUOTE]I do apologize for this inconvenience. I was starting to read this discussion from the start but since it has 73 pages of posts, and since many of them are written quite a while ago and I have absolutely no previous knowledge of this subject-I made a new post with purely informational questions.

Thank you.

Filip

[QUOTE=Yemis]How should I behave? let's say I have to go to a meeting, and can't take her with me. Can I leave her at the hotel or apartment without any fear for my valuables? Would it be considered unpolite to leave her alone at all?[/QUOTE]

Unpolite no, it's just a waste of money paying 300€/hour for leaving her alone in your hotel. Escorts in Paris are much safer than in Rio, especially those from agencies, but that doesn't mean you can do stupid things. Leave all valuable in your safe. Don't expect high end classy girls just because they take 300€/hour. Since the street prostitution crackdown a lot of street hookers prefer to use Internet and call themselves escorts now.

[QUOTE=Routard]Unpolite no, it's just a waste of money paying 300€/hour for leaving her alone in your hotel. Escorts in Paris are much safer than in Rio, especially those from agencies, but that doesn't mean you can do stupid things. Leave all valuable in your safe. Don't expect high end classy girls just because they take 300€/hour. Since the street prostitution crackdown a lot of street hookers prefer to use Internet and call themselves escorts now.[/QUOTE]Maybe I wasn't clear enough. My fault.

I am planning to book a girl through an agency of an EE country for 2 days. Price is not by the hour anyway. Does this give a safer margin?

Went today to a Thai massagesalon I found on internet.
The address is 11, Rue Brey wich is a five min walk from Arc de Triomphe!
Nice and beautifull lady, she offers a nice Thai traditional massage with HJ for
100 € for one hour.
She is open till 8 pm

For me this is a good alternative for the expensive escorts....

C.

anyone familiar with the Paris swing clubs scene here?
Here is a good link:
[url]http://site.voila.fr/extravaganza/soirdeparisclubs.html[/url]

But so many clubs... I am going with a 22 yo girl. Which clubs tend to have younger crowd? Or any recommendations on where I can get this info? Thank you

I have been with Elenora, a French 40 year old lady with great breasts that offer a nice full body massage for one hour with HJ in the end for 80€.

Place in the 16ere Arrondissement.

If you want more info contact me by pm.

Take Care

Hi friends,

I am happy to tell you my experience with Sharon. She's a splendid girl, polite, kind and very open minded. The Ultimate girl friend experience! We met in Paris and it has been a dream.

We have experimented all the positions of the Kamasutra (I book that she always bring with her) and I have enjoyed indeed her company. I think I had one of the best experience with a luxury companion. I highly recommend her.

[url]http://www.sharonluxury.com[/url]

[QUOTE=Roger65]Hi friends,

I am happy to tell you my experience with Sharon. She's a splendid girl, polite, kind and very open minded. The Ultimate girl friend experience! We met in Paris and it has been a dream.

We have experimented all the positions of the Kamasutra (I book that she always bring with her) and I have enjoyed indeed her company. I think I had one of the best experience with a luxury companion. I highly recommend her.

[url]http://www.sharonluxury.com[/url][/QUOTE]
Since you did not tell us the damage, I checked her website: 800 Euros for 3 hours is after all not that much for such a beautiful girl, as long as the service is as good as what you describe. She also charges 1500 E overnight, or better 2000 per 24h, so if you have the money, it looks good...

For those who are looking for good action in Paris, as the street business is dead, the better way to find a girl is to visit escort's web site.

Better, visit the following website: [url]www.escortguide.tv[/url]

Full of information to choose your lady.

I usually follow the reviews and I have never been disapointed.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Roger65]Hi friends,

I am happy to tell you my experience with Sharon. She's a splendid girl, polite, kind and very open minded. The Ultimate girl friend experience! We met in Paris and it has been a dream.

We have experimented all the positions of the Kamasutra (I book that she always bring with her) and I have enjoyed indeed her company. I think I had one of the best experience with a luxury companion. I highly recommend her.

[url]http://www.sharonluxury.com[/url][/QUOTE]

Looks VERY much like a fake, since the pictures are of an italian showgirl...

[QUOTE=Member #1006]Looks VERY much like a fake, since the pictures are of an italian showgirl...[/QUOTE]
As always, if it seems too good to be true, then it is...

went through "pig alley" as a typical tourist. did not go into any of the places on the north (? ) side where the barkers are aggressively trying to pull you in. went to the the large/new/clean shop call "sexopolis" or something like that. decided against anything there. moved on to either "pigalle sex shop" or "pigalle peep show", the name was not clear from the sign. but this was much dirtier and very run down versus the newer shop. spent 20 euro for 10 minutes for a private show, which for the uninitiated is like a peepshow booth but half the glass is missing. a very sexy latina (brazilian or something) went the routine.- wanted 100 euro for mutual touching and an hj. i paid her 50 euro and 40 usd (about 74 euro total). that was a lot of money for what it was, and i figure the entire area is a rip off. but it was not bad. for $60 usd it would have been a great service. there was a dozen or so bsw in groups of 2-3 along the main drag there, but did not engage with them.

Yet another page with parisian "masseusses" [url]http://www.parisexe.com/massages/index2.php3[/url]

I visited Renata, small app near Bastille, she is brasilian, pics are real, but I decided not to stay. What about the others?

[quote=routard]the parisian scene has dramatically changed since 2003 and the tough law against prostitution. the eastern european street hookers have nearly all disappeared, the pick-up bars like the notorious le baron as well as the massage parlours have all been closed. the remaining hookers are now on internet.

i was in paris and decided to check out what is left over from the street action. i drove by car all along the périphérique intérieur north between porte de bercy and porte dauphine. these boulevards, especially the boulevard des marechaux on the east side were full of eastern european street hookers. incredible, but i couldn’t spot not even one.

as i arrived on the west side of paris, i decided to check out a second area, notorious for higher class street hookers. i drove all around the outer ring of the arc de triomphe on rue tilsitt and presbourg, but again no sign of any kind of action. i checked out also avenue victor hugo and avenue foch, but couldn’t spot not even one hooker.

the bois de boulogne was not far away, but i didn’t try to check this place out, it was only notorious for tv.

i realized that trying to find street action was a tough mission, and i needed local expertise. i contacted through [url]www.youppie.net[/url] one of the best expert of the parisian street action, the famous paul verlaine. we had a rendez-vous in the afternoon on one of the terraces of a typical parisian café in belleville. i arrived with a “guide du routard” travel guide and he was waiting for me with a “contes erotiques de paul verlaine” roman. we introduced ourselves and he handed me over a encrypted floppy disk with useful phone numbers of working girls. i love this secret agent atmosphere.

paul verlaine offered me to have a walk around in the neighbour. belleville is now a typical chinatown in the middle of paris. paul verlaine explained me about the chinese underground business in this neighbour while walking on rue de belleville, very interesting. we crossed boulevard de belleville and arrived on faubourg du temple. here is were there is chinese street action during daytime. paul verlaine showed me two chinese street hookers. i would never had found it myself, they looked like two average women doing shopping. we stopped in front of a bar named jean bart facing rue de la presentation (which means “show street” btw). jean bart was a legendary pirate, notorious as he was a gentleman that didn’t [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] women during his strikes. this is the major spot where the street hookers are waiting, but probably these chinese are not aware of this story. and indeed if you stay watching for a while, you notice a couple of chinese women that are waiting. they won’t make the first move, but there is no doubt. paul verlaine told me that pricing is around 30-40€ and that they usually have a dirty room nearby, else they know a nasty hotel where to go. paul verlaine advised me to bring own condoms as well as own towel, but these chinese didn’t exactly turn me on. they were around 40 years old and not very best looking anymore.

we decided to continue to strasbourg saint denis area. at the cross point of boulevard saint denis and rue saint denis there is a small arc de triomphe named porte saint denis. this is the main area of strasbourg saint denis street action. i guess i became to get used to this discrete scene, i soon noticed by myself the chinese working girls. again they didn’t exactly turned me on. but then we found a few other working girls waiting in the passage du prado that looked much younger. they were probably northern african or romanian, hard to say. we walked till boulevard de strasbourg and i noticed that most hookers discretely smiled at paul verlaine. he confirmed me that indeed most girls knew him. he had even for each girl a nick name, and he showed me each one and giving a short description. this area looked much better as girls seemed younger and from different origins. we decided to take a hamburger at the nearby mac donald, the best place to watch the scene.

i guess most people in the streets had no idea about what was going on here. the girls seemed so discrete and only regular mongerers could detect them. i wondered how the girls manage to get enough customers, and indeed they didn’t seem to work a lot. till now, none of them had turned me on, but i noticed a much younger blonde romanian girl with a baseball cap. i asked paul verlaine, but he didn’t know her, she seemed new in the business. i soon saw her approaching a man and both disappeared in the metro station. lucky guy.

we finished our tour in the historical street action area of rue saint denis. in the old days, all rue saint denis was full of hookers, but now only the northern part of it as well as rue blondel have street action. but the scene is pitiful. most “girls” are around 60, paul verlaine told me he knows a few of them that are still working here since that he was a young soldier in the army. the tough laws have had no effect on this scene as it has been going on for centuries. the action is obvious, most women working here are french, and most apartments around belong to them.

i decided i had seen enough. it was still a nice meeting with paul verlaine and an interesting visit of what is left over from what used to be once the lively parisian street action.[/quote]a few months ago, while walking the area around place de l'opera, i wandered down joubert. there were several older sw's standing in doorways. none were at all attractive. upon walking by, some would pitch their services. they asked for 60-80 e this was the only area i saw any, but my travels were limited.

[QUOTE=Member #1006]Looks VERY much like a fake, since the pictures are of an italian showgirl...[/QUOTE]Yes, that's why the prices are so high, she is this show girl and she is magniifecent, believe me.

[QUOTE=Dreams]As always, if it seems too good to be true, then it is. [/QUOTE] Ha-ha Guys, don't doubt and talk, just "walk your talk" and try, you will not doubt, cause you are right she is the show girl and yeee, very very sexy and absolutely smart to all that!

[QUOTE=Roger65]Yes, that's why the prices are so high, she is this show girl and she is magniifecent, believe me.[/QUOTE]

Ok Roger, either your lying, or you're a fool...

This famous italian showgirl is AIDA YESPICA. I think she's from south america. Anyone can google her name, and find hundreds of websites on her.

She is regularly on italian tv + modeling + advertising.

She's has been dating some italian top manager of an automotive company (never heard about FIAT?)....

And you want us to believe that she's an escort? you fool...

This are some pics from a tv show, showing the italian showgirl:
[url]http://www.yespica.it/galleria-Calendari-Ragazze.php?IDimg=10[/url]

[url]http://www.spicywallpapers.net/wallpapers/albums/Celebrity%20Wallpapers/Aida%20Yespica/normal_Aida-Yespica-5.jpg[/url]

This are some pics of your "escort":
[url]http://www.sharonluxury.com/luxuryescortgallery/jdjdoa.jpg.jpg[/url]

[url]http://www.sharonluxury.com/gallery.htm[/url]

I was waking towards the hotel after dinner on rue seze and couple of girls popped out of this club in bikins and invited me to go in. Hearing of stories of people getting ripped I just did not dare but wanted to ask the members if it fine to go in without getting your wallet clean. These girls were very attractive. Any feedback?

[QUOTE=Philips763]Yet another page with parisian "masseusses" [url]http://www.parisexe.com/massages/index2.php3[/url]

I visited Renata, small app near Bastille, she is brasilian, pics are real, but I decided not to stay. What about the others?[/QUOTE]I felt a little confused by this post.
Renata and others on this site look pretty good, and you've said that the photos were real---- why did you leave? Were the rates exhorbitant?

[QUOTE=Member #1006]Ok Roger, either your lying, or you're a fool...

This famous italian showgirl is AIDA YESPICA. I think she's from south america. Anyone can google her name, and find hundreds of websites on her.

She is regularly on italian tv + modeling + advertising.

She's has been dating some italian top manager of an automotive company (never heard about FIAT?)....

And you want us to believe that she's an escort? you fool...

This are some pics from a tv show, showing the italian showgirl:
[url]http://www.yespica.it/galleria-Calendari-Ragazze.php?IDimg=10[/url]

[url]http://www.spicywallpapers.net/wallpapers/albums/Celebrity%20Wallpapers/Aida%20Yespica/normal_Aida-Yespica-5.jpg[/url]

This are some pics of your "escort":
[url]http://www.sharonluxury.com/luxuryescortgallery/jdjdoa.jpg.jpg[/url]

Ok

[url]http://www.sharonluxury.com/gallery.htm[/url][/QUOTE]Thank you for your infor,

Ok, you are right, looks like I am more a fool:.)

But at least a romantic one, believing in human kind, anyway, my escort is very alike, I will talk to her when I see her next time and will report my results.

Though, honestly, I think she is also a model and just doesn't want publicity of her image, doesn't want to be recognised. Strange anyway, as it is dangerous, she can be accused of stealing fotos, this showgirl can start a trial against her?

Hi guys,

I will be living in Paris now and wonder where the african prostitutes can be found now.

Any idea?

Also, if someone oculd remind me the website where we can find all escort (mainly black) in Paris.

Cheers

Street walkers in Paris are a thing of the past, except for a few Asian women near Strasbourg Saint Denis.
There are a few sites, where you can find escorts. Just pm any French user.

I went on Thursday in Porte de CLichy around 22h00. Nothing in the streets. A few girls in some bars but nothing more.

I decided to call one of the girls advertising on Niamodel. Gigi la cochonne

I went to her studio near porte de clichy. The lady is friendly, took 120 euros instead of 150 for an hour

Suck without condom and fuck as much as you want. But I don't think La cochonne is the right description for her. She is quite passive and let you do what you want. I ended by cumming ni her mouth but she does not keep it and do not swallow.

She is short, a bit fat, around 28

Would not go back.

Try some romanians streetwalkers on the Boulevard of Starsbourg between Strasbourg-Saint Denis and the railway station of East. You can find some romanians who looks so young and maybe you can have a great short time with them.

Happy hunting !

No thanks romano V, I am only on blackgirls

This tuesday, I was again around Porte CLichy when I decided to meet another girl from Niamodel. After three calls, the lady told me to come at her flat in a street near Brochand, a street crossing Av de Clichy.

I was waiting in front of her door, when I saw a cute black girl walking down the street. As I am a polite guy, I just sais hi to her. She stopped and came back to me and started miggling with me about some stuff. Suddenly, she asked me if I wanted to spend a good time with her. I said ok. She asked 80€ and I stupidely accepted without negociating (I am sure I could geet her for less than that)

Finally, we went at her place where a lady and a boy were sleeping in the living room (welcome to Paris). The girl pretend to be from Ivory Coast but I am pretty sure she was from Cameroon. She was slim and have a nice pair of boobs.

We fucked good (with condom). It was funny to see her trying not to come. Fnally, I came on her boobs and her face.

Alexia is her name and she must be around 23

So if you want to meet black girls, try to talk to them in the evening in the streets. If they work, they would let you know themselves.

Cheers

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I happened to walk (OK, purposely walked) Rue St. Denis last Friday at about 6pm. The SW's were not down by the sex shops as one would think, they were much further up St. Denis.

Start at the arch at Blvd Bonne Nouvelle/St Martin, and walk south down Rue St. Denis. They peter out around Rue de Turbigo.

This is a big retail area, and they blend in with the regular shoppers. They're well dressed in fur coats (this time of year, at least!), and they stand by entranceways to all those dark passerelles leading off of St. Denis. I assume if you go with one, your business is done down one of those dark alleys.

Some of them were actually fairly attractive. Many of them are trannies. One was stunning - long blond hair, huge boobs on display. Often trannies are better looking than bio women, lol!

I was running to an appointment so I didn't have time to sample the wares, but hope to find the time later.

Does anyone know if BBBJ is on offer from these girls?

since i had such a great time there four years ago (see my report from that trip): [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=206807#post206807[/url]

i decided to visit au pluriel again. their website is a bit more fleshed out, and now in english, which helps:

[url]http://www.plurielclub.com/pluriel_us.html[/url]

the club itself is exactly the same. strangely, i didn't see any condoms available, so it's probably best to bring your own.

unfortunately i didn't score this time. i don't know if i was just extremely lucky last time, or if i was off my game tonight. probably some of both.

i arrived at 11pm on a saturday night. usual fumbling around with language. sorted things out, grabbed a drink, and headed downstairs.

the nooks and crannies where all the action takes place were all empty. the dance floor was packed (not saying much, it's a small place). there were probably 15 women there, and about twice as many men. the clientele were fairly old, and not that attractive. there were a couple of semi-attractive 30-somethings that passed through occasionally.

whereas before i was essentially shown the ropes by a regular, this time i was left to my own devices. it's difficult to read the unwritten codes of conduct at these sort of places. when is it ok to touch, or more? i opted to be respectful and not touch unless it became obvious that my advances would be welcomed.

on the dance floor, people were mainly dancing with the partner they arrived with (husband/wife). there was some groping going on by third parties, and people having sex at the bed behind the dance floor. again, i didn't feel comfortable just marching up and joining in. i got the sense they were enjoying being exhibitionists, but not necessarily open to any old johnny joining in.

one thing i found odd about the place is that not a single person was smiling, or even looking like they were having fun. they were very serious, stoic even. i'm not sure what that was about, but i do remember observing similar behavior at another parisian swing club i visited years ago. during sex, the women looked like they were concentrating very hard on a test, and the men were staring intently like they were analyzing some financial report. aren't we all there to relax and enjoy ourselves? hmm.

anyway, couples slowly peeled off and made their way to the various nooks and crannies. occasionally they would bring a third with them, or allow others to join in, but usually it was strictly couples swinging.

between the ratio stacked against me and the unattractiveness of many of the women, i eventually called it a night. i left at 1am.

next time i'll try one of the other swing clubs mentioned on the board.

happy mongering, brothers.

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St. Denis on a Saturday at 1am is totally different than at 6pm (duh)

The girls are all black, mostly large, and do look like biological women.

Unfortunately, there are at least twice as many guys hanging out along with the girls (their pimps?), which isn't very conducive to mongering. The whole scene was a bit sketchy, so I passed.

St Denis street is becoming like Pigalle. HUSTLING.

I have been with a black girl that asked 50 € to fuck and suck. In the stairs.

I finally did not get a lot. As you could imagine.

[QUOTE=Romano V]Try some romanians streetwalkers on the Boulevard of Strasbourg between Strasbourg-Saint Denis and the railway station of East. You can find some romanians who looks so young and maybe you can have a great short time with them.[/QUOTE]

Also my experience. It looks like the Sarkozy crackdown is behind us, with the supply side slowly filling up again. There are also a few more Chinese MILFs and Arab streetwalkers in this neighbourhood compared with earlier. The problem is, the "Romanian" streetwalkers as you call them (actually most of them are either Bulgarian or gypsies from all over the Balkans) remain over priced. The Chinese women may demand 50 euros but can always be squeezed down to 30. (Remember, you also have to pay 30-40 euros for a hotel.) However, if you're reasonably well dressed and look caucasian - unlike Turkish "guest workers" who prowl the neighbourhood and get it cheaper in recognition of their paltry earnings - the SE European girls won't take less than 50 euros.

- And that's if you're lucky. I've had a lot of trouble with this market segment as of late, and the reason as I found out this week is called "Nelly". Nelly, or Nedelka, is a Bulgarian working girl who is both unusually money loving (even for her profession) and unusually air headed. This is of course excellent for a monger as it enables you to negotiate no end of premium services for a couple of extra tenners. (I wouldn't recommend her to all and everyone, though, as she is also rather plump and a tad vulgar.) After I got to know her I upped the standard price to a very generous 100 euros in return for a package including (1) more time; (2) French kisses; (3) uncovered bj; and (4) anal sex. After the first time Nelly was always happy to see me on the street and actively propositioning me: "Salut! On y va?" the second we met. Once that I told her, no, not today, she even offered to lower her price to 80, indicating that I was in fact over paying. I did not accept her offer, though, as in my experience it is very problematic to lower a price a girl has come to expect from you, but after a few more sessions Nelly got lazy and began to take my custom for granted, so I dropped her.

This episode, however, had an afterplay. A new batch of Bulgarian women took to the street this autumn, some of them - in a break with the past - young and good looking. To my consternation they all tried to over charge me, or trick me. One of them, a tiny gysie-lookalike, offered me "oral/normal sex, 50 euros, plus hotel". I accepted, only to find after we were in the room and I had paid the hotel that "no, no, no... it is 50 euros for oral, plus 50 for normal sex". Needless to say, I walked out. I only found out what was up this week when I went with Sisi, another Bulgarian who is good looking and (always a danger signal - but so what?) thinks herself god's gift to the street. She was willing to do a complete service - I asked her three times - for 50 euros. Once we were in the room, however, she told me it would be better if I paid 100. Like that "we could really enjoy ourselves. She might even fully undress". I was about to leave the room when she clung to my coat and actually wailed: "Look, you pay my friend 100 euros? Why not me? I can't take less than her!"

No, I could see that. Apparently, air headed Nelly had been boasting around with how much she got out of me. Only, in the interest of sister solidarity and her own reputation she had "forgotten" to tell them how hard she worked for that money. I patiently told Sisi that this money is for uncovered BJ and anal sex. Her eyes and mouth went round with surprise. "But..." she stammered "I don't do anal sex". (Leaving open, please note, the other option.) "Well," responded I, "then I don't pay you 100 euros. As simple as that". In the end I gave her a couple of tenners for BBBJ and she gave a correct if not enthousiastic service (the pretty-girl syndrome again...). A few days later the price that any SE girl in the street charged me had dropped and many of them had become much more eager to compete for my custom. So... heed my warning: these girls gossip worse than a Tupperware party. If you ever pay extra for premium services then make SURE to spread the word around to the other girls. Your provider will tell them all about the "extra" and not mention the "premium".

I was there, at Rue St. Denis/Blondell last night (weekend). The place is dead. Apart from the few chronologically challenged there were no CSWs that would even make a score of 2. I will try to come back in the summers. I think the cold weather is too harsh. For right now guys head to the warmer regions.

I confirm the report of Prudent for an other place : the chinese scene at Porte Doree is also dead.

I drove yesterday evening (5:00 pm) for about 1 hour in the Porte Doree area without seeing any Chinese SW.

There were one old and ugly white girl and one mid-age black but no Chinese at all !

As I wasn't in Paris since last summer, I didn't try the Chinese scene at Porte Doree for some months : does somebody knows if it is now definitively dead or if it is due to the current cold weather in Paris?

Can anyone tell me if they find this site reliable.

[url]http://www.escortguide.tv/index.php?mod=Rs[/url]

It seems a lot of the ladies listed as Paris/private are visiting from Russia and I suspect they're agency based.

Does anyone have any experience?

Thanks

[url]http://www.znakomstva.lv/anketa.phtml?oid=114169059[/url]

Karine is 22 yo and she wants 800 € for the night.

[QUOTE=Romano V][url]http://www.znakomstva.lv/anketa.phtml?oid=114169059[/url]

Karine is 22 yo and she wants 800 € for the night.[/QUOTE]I might travel to Paris soon. Is this girl reliable?

I got sucked into one of the clip joints in Pigalle and nearly got my butt kicked because I didn't agree to pay a huge sum of money to have some girl sit next to me in one of those lousy scam joints. I ended up paying about 50 Euros so that I could get out of there with my limbs in place. Beware. It starts out innocently enough, you watch a girl dance in a booth and then they sucker you into going into a theater room where a girl sits next to you and tries to talk you into buying her cigarettes and drinks. As I attempted to leave, a bald headed jerk threatened me. Anyhow, my fault for being stupid to even think of walking into the place. What I desparately need is a safe incall massage. Please, please can someone help me out?

Thanks

[quote=rao duke]i got sucked into one of the clip joints in pigalle and nearly got my butt kicked because i didn't agree to pay a huge sum of money to have some girl sit next to me in one of those lousy scam joints. i ended up paying about 50 euros so that i could get out of there with my limbs in place. beware. it starts out innocently enough, you watch a girl dance in a booth and then they sucker you into going into a theater room where a girl sits next to you and tries to talk you into buying her cigarettes and drinks. as i attempted to leave, a bald headed jerk threatened me. anyhow, my fault for being stupid to even think of walking into the place. what i desparately need is a safe incall massage. please, please can someone help me ou

well, all about paris has already been said in this forum.

st denis is quite a lousy place and pigalle is more of a tourist trap.

at pigalle nevertheless you can peep through the bars and if you fancy a girl go in and try to bargain... it can be done better during the week -specially thursdays.
last time i was there i picked a moldovan girl for 100.- € after bargaining with her mamasan (they ask you 200.-€, but you always manage to bargain).

we went to a room in the cellar. it was quite sleazy but the girl was quite nice and civil and the service went smoothly.

i-m-p-o-r-t-a-n-t: as our fellow monger states avoid at all costs the big bars at the main street, it can even turn out to be dangerous!!: fake lap-dances and "beur" henchmen!

[quote=waryman][quote=rao duke]i got sucked into one of the clip joints in pigalle and nearly got my butt kicked because i didn't agree to pay a huge sum of money to have some girl sit next to me in one of those lousy scam joints. i ended up paying about 50 euros so that i could get out of there with my limbs in place. beware. it starts out innocently enough, you watch a girl dance in a booth and then they sucker you into going into a theater room where a girl sits next to you and tries to talk you into buying her cigarettes and drinks. as i attempted to leave, a bald headed jerk threatened me. anyhow, my fault for being stupid to even think of walking into the place. what i desparately need is a safe incall massage. please, please can someone help me ou

well, all about paris has already been said in this forum.

st denis is quite a lousy place and pigalle is more of a tourist trap.

at pigalle nevertheless you can peep through the bars and if you fancy a girl go in and try to bargain. it can be done better during the week.specially thursdays. last time i was there i picked a moldovan girl for 100.. € after bargaining with her mamasan (they ask you 200..€, but you always manage to bargain).

we went to a room in the cellar. it was quite sleazy but the girl was quite nice and civil and the service went smoothly.

i-m-p-o-r-t-a-n-t: as our fellow monger states avoid at all costs the big bars at the main street, it can even turn out to be dangerous! : fake lap-dances and "beur" henchmen! [/quote]thanks for the response. i realize my stupidity and i won't be making that mistake again. i hope. paris is a tough nut to crack, i think i'm going to give up. as for future mongering, i hope to return to prague before too long or perhaps i'll have to try one of those fkk's in germany. the city of love isn't working out for this monger.

Floyd Dylan,

I have a fair amount of experience with Au Pluriel and did along post about it here about a year ago. You unfortunately picked the worst night of the week for that place. I've found that Saturdays attract a large number of couples who want to go out and be sexy with each other but not to share. You'll find that any other night of the week is much better and Sundays have been especially good for me.

I will be in Paris next weekend with a 20 yo Brazilian girlfriend.

Is there anyone interested in swinging with us? I am only interested in a couple (no single guys).

Single girls are fine though. LOL.

It appears that no one is interested in swinging with me and my beautiful 20 yo girlfriend. I have read the Paris board, and know there are lots of swingers clubs in Paris. Which would be best for a 50 yo guy and his 20 yo innocent (but very willing to learn) Brazilian gal?

PLEASE don't be shy. Any and all opinions are welcome (except, "why would anyone want to fuck a 50 yo guy if they are not being paid?")

Wow , what a forum ! Kudos to all of you contributing.

We are a copule (m-straight f-bi ) coming from the USA to Paris for work and some fun in 10 days or so. We are looking for a place which will be nice to be in and fuck in (we love doing it in a club in front of a crowd). We may bring another girl to party with us, but this is yet to be decided. Searching the net and this forum point to two main places 1). [url]http://www.plurielclub.com/Pluriel_us.html[/url] and 2). [url]http://www.overside.fr/2007/english/index.htm[/url] Are we on track ? are these places any good ? can we do better ?

Your assistance is much appriciated.

[QUOTE=Jeanmi]I confirm the report of Prudent for an other place : the chinese scene at Porte Doree is also dead.

I drove yesterday evening (5:00 pm) for about 1 hour in the Porte Doree area without seeing any Chinese SW.

There were one old and ugly white girl and one mid-age black but no Chinese at all !

As I wasn't in Paris since last summer, I didn't try the Chinese scene at Porte Doree for some months : does somebody knows if it is now definitively dead or if it is due to the current cold weather in Paris?[/QUOTE]Hallo,

the scene in Paris is not as dead as you say. But it needs more time to score. But you will find the most beautiful and well educated Women in the world. If you have time and like black or arab women try this.

1. "Le Night"

This bar/club is opposite of the Concorde Lafayette Hotel. There are always some black or arab women. You can negotiate around 200,-Euro. If it is an african women, they often do not care if you spend the hole night. The bouncer in front is sometimes cocky. So dress nicely. Sometimes you will find Naomis (5-9)

2. "La Scala"

A club in rue Rivoli near the Louvre. You will find always some africans from 4-7 for 100-200 Euro. They will show you if they have interest.

3. "Le Madrigal"

This is a cafe at the Champs-Elysees. A lot of arab women sitting in tere. They are all avalable from 100-300 Euro. All women sitting alone or with their girlfriend. They start to smile at you. YOu can take a seat at their table and easily negotiate.

4. High class women

You do not need an escort service if you have some time. In Paris Sex is the hobby no. 1. Try the following places.

Le Rival (opposite George V Hotel)

A place for hookers to relax before or after work at the grand hotels around. Sometimes you will find hookers looking like Topmodels. They are accesible. ALso at the BAr George V itself.

Bound

Go to the bar. Sometimes very beautiful working women.

Sephora

This is a large magazine for buying make up at the Champs Elysees. It closes at 1 AM. A lot of hookers coming here to get your make up for free. Get them a smile they will be available. You will spot them if you have some experience.

Buddha Bar

A club/bar/resto. You can take a short look. Sometimes working women.

The Champs Elysees

If it is not to cold walk up and down and you will find easily working women. Some are very beautiful.

Le Keur Samba

A club in the rue la Boetie, near Champs Elysees. A bit difficult to get in. But if you can you will find some of the most beautiful black women from Paris. They are mostly available.

Drugstore

A cafe at the end of Champs Elysees. Take a cafe and see whats going on. At their bar there are always some women. Note this is not a brothel. But you will notice the signals.

Havanna Club

The bar is opposite the L'Etoile club. AT the bar you will find mostly black women. Not much maybe two only but beautiful.

L'Etoile

At Friday you can find some women. They are looking for customers

Place Charles de Gaulle Etoile

At the street that goes round this place you wll find at Mc Donald stoplight always some women. All the women "waiting for the bus" or "calling with the mobile" work.

God Luck

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I like the site escortguide.tv and its reviews, but there's one problem - I can't find any black girls on it! I'd rather make arrangements online than meet someone on the street - what are the best sites to find black escorts in Paris?

[QUOTE=Comegetsome]I like the site escortguide.tv and its reviews, but there's one problem - I can't find any black girls on it! I'd rather make arrangements online than meet someone on the street - what are the best sites to find black escorts in Paris?[/QUOTE]

Forget Escortguide.tv, it's full of fake reviews.

Try:
[url]www.missive.info[/url]
[url]www.niamodel.com[/url]
[url]www.charmeplus.com[/url]
[url]www.escort-annonce.com[/url]

During the day you can see prostitutes near Castle of Vincennes 50 meters after the bust station and metro line 1 exit. The girls are Roms from Romania they are very young but not beautiful faces. I had today a stretwalker with a rose jeans maybe she didn't won enought of money last evening so she works during the day. Girls are waiting along the road just 5 minuts for the most beautiful, you can see some BMC too but they arn't open. If you want sex in the vans go to Porte de Clichy. So if you want to pick up girls you need to have a car or have sex in the woods.

There is a girl who receives in Le Perreux-sur Marne her name is Estelle I can give you her phone number by PM.

Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=Looking07]Wow , what a forum ! Kudos to all of you contributing.

We are a copule (m-straight f-bi ) coming from the USA to Paris for work and some fun in 10 days or so. We are looking for a place which will be nice to be in and fuck in (we love doing it in a club in front of a crowd). We may bring another girl to party with us, but this is yet to be decided. Searching the net and this forum point to two main places 1). [url]http://www.plurielclub.com/Pluriel_us.html[/url] and 2). [url]http://www.overside.fr/2007/english/index.htm[/url] Are we on track ? are these places any good ? can we do better ?

Your assistance is much appriciated.[/QUOTE]I suggest you to go to the No Comment, it's a very classy club

[url]http://www.nocommentclub.com/[/url]

Enjoy the city !

Aspasie

Hi guys,

I'm wandering about a bar at montparnasse, rue van damme. The name of the bar is "Bar Club" and no other name. A tout in front of it tried to convince me to go in and have a look at the girls but I did not trust him after reading the unfortunate stories here, particularlay about pigally.

Any comment will be helpful.

Thanks for advance.

[quote=festinalente]hi guys,

i'm wandering about a bar at montparnasse, rue van damme. the name of the bar is "bar club" and no other name. a tout in front of it tried to convince me to go in and have a look at the girls but i did not trust him after reading the unfortunate stories here, particularlay about pigally.

any comment will be helpful.

thanks for advance.[/quote]i think all bar with girls are "attrape-touristes", it depends what you are looking for... if you just want fun and have a look, go to chochotte : nice girls dancing and more (but you can't touch them).

[url]http://www.theatre-chochotte.com/[/url]

if you want a hooker, go to some streets.

if you want an escort girl, i can help you.

I am interested in an escort girl. Can you send me a PM?

Thanks for great feedback from the members here I've avoided the tourist traps. I have a day left in the city and would love to find a parlor that provides great massage therapy with a full-service ending.

Has anyone any suggestions here in Paris?

Tell me more about what is happening in Porte Clichy ?

[QUOTE=Romano V]During the day you can see prostitutes near Castle of Vincennes 50 meters after the bust station and metro line 1 exit. The girls are Roms from Romania they are very young but not beautiful faces. I had today a stretwalker with a rose jeans maybe she didn't won enought of money last evening so she works during the day. Girls are waiting along the road just 5 minuts for the most beautiful, you can see some BMC too but they arn't open. If you want sex in the vans go to Porte de Clichy. So if you want to pick up girls you need to have a car or have sex in the woods.

There is a girl who receives in Le Perreux-sur Marne her name is Estelle I can give you her phone number by PM.

Happy hunting![/QUOTE]

Soho Bar; just 100m south of Place Pigalle, bargain 250 euros for some lousy champagne & a bloody good shag.

Choose your putaing carefully and have fun, I certainly did; she was Chinese & worth every centime.

On a semi recent Saturday night, I had been strolling around the streets that come off the traffic circle with the Arc de Triomphe (as I had been lucky in the area on previous visits) for about an hour with out luck when a very cute, petite young lady made a touch more eye contact than normal, I responded with the best Bon Soir in me and she stopped and told me that her English was not too good. I ask what she was doing tonight and she said, "I am working in the street" and asked if I knew what that meant.

So off to a cab back to my hotel and we had a very nice time. She is 24, 5 ft 2, 110 lbs, French, with a Romanian Mother. All in all one of the best GFE that I have ever met. Asked 150 euro, accepted 125. She is clearly a semi pro, only does occasional dates, one per night. We had a very nice time despite her limited English and my very limited French.

Spending a couple of nights out by CDG at the marriott.

Seems like I'm out in the "middle of woods". Are there any options out here?

All agencies want like 400 euros which in my mind is crazy for like one hour.

Thanks,

Normus Johnson

As I did not receive any information, I went by myself in the neighborhood and found a street called Pierre Rebière where there was a bunch of van with ladies (or trannies) inside.

Rates starting from 20 € for a suck and 30 € for suck'n'fuck. I could not believe it was so weird as I came inside. The lady does not allow you to touch, just suck'n'fuck and that's it for 10 min. I would not recommend at all this kind of mongering.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Zouk Love]Tell me more about what is happening in Porte Clichy ?[/QUOTE]

Hi Normus,

Not only you are in the middle of the woods, but in the middle of mongers' hell = bloody conservative France. You'd better to forget about your projects and fly away ASAP!
In case, you may want to have a look to niamodel (in French however).

Thanks for visiting Sarkozy's country, and see you in: Belgium, Netherlands, Spain, Portugal, Germany, Switzerland, UK, Austria, Denmark, Czech Rep., Poland, Hungary… anywhere but here!!!

[QUOTE=Normus Johnson]Spending a couple of nights out by CDG at the marriott.

Seems like I'm out in the "middle of woods". Are there any options out here?

All agencies want like 400 euros which in my mind is crazy for like one hour.

Thanks,

Normus Johnson[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Normus Johnson]Spending a couple of nights out by CDG at the marriott.

Seems like I'm out in the "middle of woods". Are there any options out here?

All agencies want like 400 euros which in my mind is crazy for like one hour.

Thanks,

Normus Johnson[/QUOTE]

Hi Normus,
I have no info on P4P in that area... You might find something, like an occasional business woman travelling from one meeting to another, but I don't know if it's your target...

Otherwise, my advice is to take a cab to Paris, and spend the evening in a swinger's club. With a little luck you might have more fun than you expect, for approx 200 euros (50+50 taxi + 100 club).

Eventually you could pay a visit to one of the agency's girls in Paris, at their hotel room, for a total damage of 300 approx (200 + taxi).

Bonne chance!

Anyone seen this lady? I emailed her for rates and they are:

[quote]For our moment of Extreme Pleasure I require 150,00€ For a traditional meeting of relationship with massage, fellatio, 69, shaken Spanish... Faire love. If the SODO Tries you, account 200,00€ for a complete scéance of Dream, pleasure and All your phantasms realize.[/quote]

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[url]http://missive.com/XX8080/542418.shtml[/url]
[url]http://www.escort-annonce.com/escort/SuzyBlonde[/url]

[quote=grapelli]i felt a little confused by this post.

renata and others on this site look pretty good, and you've said that the photos were real---- why did you leave? were the rates exhorbitant?[/quote]i was just a bit uncomforatble because she was for my taste a bit too pushy. but maybe some of you like it to be overpowered with her brasilian temperament. ;-)

Hi, walked through Joubert as I was in the area anyway, and found 5 mature SW on a regular Thursday 17pm! Somewhat dependant on your testosteron level I'll say 3-4 was doable and one even extremely attactive. Only talked to one of them but didn't get the impression there's too much marks up their arms.

[QUOTE=Member #1006]Otherwise, my advice is to take a cab to Paris, and spend the evening in a swinger's club. With a little luck you might have more fun than you expect, for approx 200 euros (50+50 taxi + 100 club).

Eventually you could pay a visit to one of the agency's girls in Paris, at their hotel room, for a total damage of 300 approx (200 + taxi).[/quote]You may not need a taxi unless you plan to stay out very late. Just use the RER from CDG, and the RT fare will be roughly 19 euros, and the ticket includes a transfer to the metro system, so that you can reach virtually anyplace within Paris.

[QUOTE=Philips763]I was just a bit uncomforatble because she was for my taste a bit too pushy. But maybe some of you like it to be overpowered with her brasilian temperament. ;-)[/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification! For other readers who may be wondering what we're talking about, refer back to post #1094.

[quote=grapelli]thanks for the clarification! for other readers who may be wondering what we're talking about, refer back to post #1094.[/quote]you are wellcome. she shares a small 2 room app in rue charonne near bastille.

i would like to ask a thing: some days ago i wanted to book an escort over escort-annonce.com, and the russian agency send me a sms back saying the escort would offer a "full service, not only a***, sans tabous". anybody could clear this? what means full service?

Hi bros,

i live here. You can find nice romanians near Euro disneyland and suburb near Chateau de Vincennes if you take the road to Nogent sur Marne you will find romanian streetwalkers 30 € CBJ and 40 € a quick fuck, on the same road there is a camping car italian of Torino where you will have prostitutes. Be careful if you take africans they are drug addict (Heroïne) better pick up a romanian or to fuck her outdoor.

If you have problems i will be happy to help you.

Happy hunting!

Been in Paris now for about a month and it's really dry here and expensive.

I think I must just change country if nothing happens soon.

Anybody would have an idea of a good place to have Thai massage or just generally a good MP?

Any hetero gloryhole?

Thanks!

I read the forums and thought that Paris was going to be very dry and boring. I managed a great night last Saturday though. Looked at missive. Info and replied to a few ads for escorts who would accompany me to the swingers clubs. Got a number of replies of various ages. Some sent photos. Then, just as I was about to give up, I got shots of the most beautiful young thing. 21, long brown tresses, great dark eyes and a very tight body. We went back and forth a bit by email. She wanted a photo of me. I provided and was rewarded with more sexy shots in return. We booked for Saturday night at one of the clubs. The deal was not cheap. 500 E for about 4 hours, plus entry to the club. But given the price of a lot in Paris, this seemed a good deal.

She met me at my hotel before. I swooned! She was as cute as I had imagined in the shots. Petite, refined, she gave me a gentle kiss when we met. GFE right from the very beginning.

We went to one of the softer clubs. After passing the initial security check, we gave our coats to the vestiare and went in. She wanted a smoke, so we went up to the smoking room and within a few minutes a couple of middle easter origin came up and checked us both out. The other woman was round and soft. Nice round globes displayed in her teddy. Possibilities. .

My date and I went downstairs. The dance floor was filled with quite a variety. Couples in their 50s down to some 30 somethings. There were a lot of hot women there. Much lingerie. My smouldering sweetie took me on a tour. She showed me the rooms, including the room with the manacles (not really an s m place mind you.) her hands in place, I lifted her skirt for a bit of lapping at her oyster. Heavenly!

Wanting to continue the evening, I stopped and we went back to the dance floor. The couple we met earlier was there and I got the direct look from the woman. She took me by the hand for a contact dance. My date smiled and let my hand go and began to dance with the tall swarthy fellow.

The woman with the soft globes was hot! Rubbing against me, squatting to take my crotch in her mouth, I didn't care about the music anymore. I had to go to the bedrooms. (continued)

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We left the dance floor and I indicated to my date where we were all going. She followed with her guy. I asked her if it was okay that she had to be with him. She smiled and told me that the woman I was with was hot and into me and it would be a pleasure if we all fucked. The best thing to hear!

We went to the room with the group bed. My hot dancer lay down, I stripped off her panties and set to probing her wet pussy. She wouldn't let me go for much more than 2 minutes before she was sitting up, and taking off my clothes. Before I knew it. We were 69. With her mouth lubing up my cock. I was sure I would blow my load if I didn't think of basketball or something.

To top it off, I paused from eating her out to see my date being fucked from behind by my partner's partner. It was so hot. My little brunette looked at me and reached out her hand to caress my face. I couldn't believe it.

The next 45 minute (or so, couldn't tell for sure) were a blur. I came in the mouth of my bombshell while she dripped all over my face. She didn't want to fuck me after, which was a bit disappointing, but as soon as she left I turnde to my date (who was still being fucked by the guy) who said she wanted to suck me. I came towards her and she took my cock in her mouth, put a finger in my ass, all while she was being pumped from behind.

This was a porno film gone real!

It was then that I realised that we were being watched by at least 5 couples. Some were just looking while others were looking and fingering each other. The atmosphere was intense.

(to be continued again)

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The thing that was a bit amazing though is that few people were really exploring outside of the couples. A number of women were bent over the bed, watching us going at it, while their partners were loosening their pants and doing it doggy style. Still. The moaning from these milfs was something else.

Eventually the big guy gave it up and then my little date said. Now it is your turn. I couldn't believe she still wanted any more. She climbed on top of me and I had a taste of the soft snugness that was her pussy. OH MY GOD! It just kept getting better! We went at it for maybe another 15 minutes. Her riding me, then asking me to fuck her from behind. I fingered her ass and went at her. I have to be honest though. By this time, I was getting pretty soft and tired. I guess she senses this and she said. I want you to come in my mouth. We switched. Cock in her mouth, her finger in my ass and I exploded. It was nuclear! I was exhausted.

We gathered our clothes (took some work to find all the bits, including my shoes). Other couples had come to the bed. If I wasn't so tired, I would have loved to try out this curvy blonde who was giving her boyfriend an extremely energetic blow job.

We got glasses of water and cuddled on the couches next to the dance floor. She told me that the guy had almost done her in, his cock was so huge. She also told me that it wasn't really cool that the woman wouldn't fuck. The deal is that if one partner fucks, then the other also should. Not fair otherwise.

There was no way I had more energy, so we took a cab and left. I dropped her off somewhere (god knows). Just before she got out she looked at me and "said can I email you? " and then said "kiss me" one passionate kiss and she was gone.

I'm dying for my next club experience, but I suspect the partner I had was truly special.

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Gentlemen,

I am new to Paris and looking for a massage with happy ending (either HJ or BBBJ). It seems difficult to locate such services around here (in the forum) and even on the internet.

I must admit that I do not speak french, which does not make life easier.

I am grateful for any hints in this direction.

Thanks,

H.

In Paris suburbs there is the best deal with some prostitutes in social housing "hearth" in french foyer named ADEF or ADOMA in departments 94. 95. So you can enter un one of the "foyer" and paid 20€ for a fuck with an old prostitute french, arabs, or blacks you can find romanians if you have a good luck. 20€ is cheap for Paris, if you want to fuck under the shower it is just 10€ but more confortable if you take a room with the bed for 10€ more.

I saw a women from North Africa in Fontenay/sois, Nogent/marne, Le Perreux she was cool and nice dressed and she has the condoms. It is only the saturdays and sundays between 11 and 14 during the morning. Some place are looked so contact me in PM if you want to enter. I will show you the women.

Went to rue Joubert 2 nights ago. Did not see a lot of girls (3-4), it was late.

Pick a nice thin brunette about 30. For 90 had a very nice CBJ and then a very good doggy style ride. The girl was very cool, very calm and willing to make me happy. Not the best but globally a very good time.

Will come back soon :)

Well, I took not ONE but TWO for the team in my last trip to Paris. I RTFF but despite the good advice given by many of you, I still let my little head do the thinking. It was an expensive lesson.

My downfall was in several (2) of the Pigalle strip joints. The very hard sell by the folks on the street should have clued me in.- instead it peaked my curiosity. Once inside, you're screwed (or NOT as the true case may be). I wandered in to one place (can't remember the name but they're all the same) and was immediately given a drink that I didn't want and a very low mileage dance that I didn't ask for and was hit up for 200 Es. My protests went totally unheeded and I was almost "roughed up" by some of the tough bouncers in the place. You'd think that I would have learned something.- however, 2 blocks or so later a really attractive girl outside saw my fuming face and asked was was wrong. I told her about my bad experience at her "competitor" and she was all "understanding" and said that her place was much better. I have to admit I did have a better time at the second place, actually spent some time with a moderately attractive well built dancer but there was all sorts of upselling and in the end, it was wholly unsatisfying. I dropped another 300 Es there for very little to show for it.

For any doubters, do NOT, I repeat, do NOT even go near these establishments. They must get a lot of naive tourists like me because they offer no legitimate "entertainment" and I can't see anyone repeating a visit. How else could they stay in business.

Oh well, live and learn. I'll be well versed for my next trip.

LD

Found this address on a French website:

Li Ling (Massage Chinois)
6, Villa St. Charles
75015 Paris

It is in the 15th Arondissement not so far from the Eiffeltower.

Very nice place and very good massage with HJ.
Price = 38 € + 30 € for the extras!

You can find more of this places in Paris. Seems to me one of the cheaper
possibilities to have a good massage with extra.

Camieleke

Did the girl have a place nearby and what was it like - ok or a dump?

I'm in Paris for some R&R I agree with others the place is tough going.

[QUOTE=WhereAmI]Did the girl have a place nearby and what was it like - ok or a dump?

I'm in Paris for some R&R I agree with others the place is tough going.[/QUOTE]Yep, she had a place near by. In fact almost all the girls on rue Joubert have a place there. she was pretty nice looking, very thin, tiny tits.

I went back a couple day later and found Lucy. she is about 40, not the prettiest girl but not bad at all. Gave me hellova CBJCIM. I think Rue Joubert is the easiest place to find a SW. The thing is you may find good looking, average looking, ugly looking girl ! Be safe and have fun.

Last Sunday I was in my room suburbs look my address :

« Résidence L'Auxerrois » 45 avenue G. Lacassagne

94120 FONTENAY-SOUS-BOIS

I was with a french mature in DIM UP stockings nice dressed but too old to my taste, for just 20 € you can fuck her. I cummed quickly. She works between 11 and 14 o'clock 30 and is very obedient no chrono.

You can come by RER it is easy.

Rate : 4

For some of you American tourists (like me), it may come as a shock that some agencies, epecially those that "sponsor" girls from Eastern Europe/ Russia, won't deal with you if you don't have a SMS number. I didn't want to have a cell (mobile) phone with me during a recent trip, and found that, if I telephoned with a request for a girl I'd chosen from the internet, the agencies weren't willing to even speak to me about scheduling if "all" I could offer was my name, and name of my hotel, with address, phone number, and room number.

By the way, these agency-sponsored girls were very expensive, with rates typically 250 euros for an hour, or 300 for the girl to come to your room (plus taxi charges!).

I was with the old french lady again on saturday afternoon, CBJ, 2 positions i liked doggystyle but finally it's boring, she doesn't look her clock so you can stay long time with her for only 20€ she had her glasses, and to conclude i had hanjob and COB. I am tired about this oldie.

Hi,

I remember there was some action available on rue de Seze. Is it still there.

I am staying close the BD de Madelain so I am interested in action close by.

Not sure if I can get some one into my room so I am interested in both possibility of bringing some one into my room or going to their place.

I would appreciate all information including current rates.

[QUOTE=Silvermesh]Hi,

I remember there was some action available on rue de Seze. Is it still there.

I am staying close the BD de Madelain so I am interested in action close by.

Not sure if I can get some one into my room so I am interested in both possibility of bringing some one into my room or going to their place.

I would appreciate all information including current rates.[/QUOTE]I worked half year near this area and prostitutes are here in the cars for the evening. Old french prostitutes.

Rue Saint-Denis, rue Joubert, rue Blondel and rue Rebiere.

If you want good looking girls try girls from EE in tour.

If you need help i can join you in Paris to show you streetwalkers.

Is it any area in Paris where there are pick-up bars and the girls have rooms och cheap hotels in the same area.

yeah the reports posted in the paris section are daymn right. sex is way too expensive here. seems to be just a fashion capital. better off to save euros and have some nice classy low cost ***** in amsterdam. lolz.

neways. here i go with my experience.

after having read this holy sex guide. i went on an evening stroll on pigalle's main street. the core of rld. of paris. since i am put up at victor masses. on rue de victor masses. since i read about all rip off reports, i hid like 20 euros in my pocket and kept only 40e in my wallet. i simply was passing by all kinds of invites from those folks trying to sell me some free peep stuff. unheeded i came across a small strip/live lap dance/table dance as advertised just before mc. donald's on my left. looking at the low profile look of the strip joint with just stairs leading up, i thought about checking it out.

"20 e" sir, i paid him and climbed the stairs. to my surpirse nothing goin on, just 1 italian jerk, 1 old lady on the bar counter, 3 hoochies one was in late 40's and other 2 quite young, 1 was black. i was made to sit in a dimly lit tiny room with 4.5 sofas surrounding and a pole in the middle. was approached by this old woman, asked me where was i frm and i said brasil, and she said from barcelona, perhaps only knew that country in her head, and i greeted her in espanol, saw q's on her head, and found out she didn't know spanish, lolz. yeah just making me feel at home.

neways, she ordered beer for me and some orange cola for hereself. bar menu listed "biere" for 5e, and colas for 5e s too. she stood up and started stripping by the pole with now only bra and panty on her, she danced for like 5 mins and then came back to sit near me, wore the clothes again and was chatting with me. she was about to order another round of drinks and i sensed fishy and stood up, went out of the room and guess what.

this italian dude wrote up a bill for 207 euros, lol. just remembered by isg brothers here. and gave a firm resistance that i ain't gonna pay that bill. he threatened me, made racists comments and i reverted back with same to his surprise. i said, call the police and i will talk to them. he was forcing me to give my credit card and was almost about to rob me, and i still gave firm resistance that look buddy i am frm us and you better be nice or else i report to the police and you will be in for trying to threaten and rip a tourist.

he made me wait for 10 mins, trying to scare me. i stayed firm and resisted him, finally after arguing for 20 mins, i said if you wanna take this 20 euros, take it or else i am leaving. tried to stop me, i pushed him off and he let me go.

so folks, who are reading this trying to get a quickie in paris, i think its now for our fellow isg members and i strongly advise not to try! unless you like messing with these idiots.

better off to goto cologne or amsterdam and worth to spend more "es" there!

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[quote=gbg secret]is it any area in paris where there are pick-up bars and the girls have rooms och cheap hotels in the same area.[/quote]yeah the reports posted in the paris section are daymn right. sex is way too expensive here. seems to be just a fashion capital. better off to save euros and have some nice classy low cost ***** in amsterdam. lolz.

neways. here i go with my experience.

after having read this holy sex guide. i went on an evening stroll on pigalle's main street. the core of rld. of paris. since i am put up at victor masses. on rue de victor masses. since i read about all rip off reports, i hid like 20 euros in my pocket and kept only 40e in my wallet. i simply was passing by all kinds of invites from those folks trying to sell me some free peep stuff. unheeded i came across a small strip/live lap dance/table dance as advertised just before mc. donald's on my left. looking at the low profile look of the strip joint with just stairs leading up, i thought about checking it out.

"20 e" sir, i paid him and climbed the stairs. to my surpirse nothing goin on, just 1 italian jerk, 1 old lady on the bar counter, 3 hoochies one was in late 40's and other 2 quite young, 1 was black. i was made to sit in a dimly lit tiny room with 4.5 sofas surrounding and a pole in the middle. was approached by this old woman, asked me where was i frm and i said brasil, and she said from barcelona, perhaps only knew that country in her head, and i greeted her in espanol, saw q's on her head, and found out she didn't know spanish, lolz. yeah just making me feel at home.

neways, she ordered beer for me and some orange cola for hereself. bar menu listed "biere" for 5e, and colas for 5e s too. she stood up and started stripping by the pole with now only bra and panty on her, she danced for like 5 mins and then came back to sit near me, wore the clothes again and was chatting with me. she was about to order another round of drinks and i sensed fishy and stood up, went out of the room and guess what.

this italian dude wrote up a bill for 207 euros, lol. just remembered by isg brothers here. and gave a firm resistance that i aint gonna pay that bill. he threatened me, made racists comments and i reverted back with same to his surprise. i said, call the police and i will talk to them. he was forcing me to give my credit card and was almost about to rob me, and i still gave firm resistance that look buddy i am frm us and you better be nice or else i report to the police and you will be in for trying to threaten and rip a tourist.

he made me wait for 10 mins, trying to scare me. i stayed firm and resisted him, finally after arguing for 20 mins, i said if you wanna take this 20 euros, take it or else i am leaving. tried to stop me, i pushed him off and he let me go.

so folks, who are reading this trying to get a quickie in paris, i think its now for our fellow isg members and i strongly advise not to try! unless you like messing with these idiots.

better off to goto cologne or amsterdam and worth to spend more "es" there!

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[QUOTE=Good Guy 5]Hallo,

I didn't try the first 2, so, I can't comment.

3. "Le Madrigal"

This place was very hard to find from the completely accurate and incomplete description provided. Some additional clues:

It's near the point where Champs Elysees turns into a park on the north side of the Champs. The awning says simply Cafe and, indeed, unless you look at one of the menus or ask someone, I don't think there is any way to know that it is Le Madrigal. It's also distinctive in that the interior is lit using red flourescent lighting with at least apparently red walls.

There was no action to be had here on Saturday night at 17, 20, 22, or 02 hours.

4. High class women

You do not need an escort service if you have some time. In Paris Sex is the hobby no. 1. Try the following places.

Le Rival (opposite George V Hotel)

Um. Not exactly opposite. True it is on the other side of the street, but, it's a good 2-3 blocks down from the George V Hotel. This is on Avenue George V, about 6-8 blocks from the Champs.

Same story as Le Madrigal. Sausage Fest.

Bound

This is also off the Champs on Avenue George V. It's only a block or two off of the Champs. All I got from this place was a glass of very bad wine for about $17US (10 Euros). No action to be had and the bar was mostly empty when I arrived and rapidly turned into another sausage fest.

Sephora

This place was insanely busy tonight, but, didn't seem to have much (any) in the way of working girls. Mostly Asian tourists, Chinese and Japanese and lots of locals. By the time I got here, I'd become pretty much convinced that Saturday is _NOT_ the night to go looking.

The Champs Elysees

It wasn't cold at all, but, at most, I saw one actual working woman. It was actually hard to tell if she was working, suffering from a really bad drug problem, or, waiting for the guy she was sort of orbiting to get off the cell-phone. Eventually she broke her orbit and staggered in the direction where I was standing. As she got about 5 feet away, she made a sudden turn and dropped her umbrella. The next 5 minutes she spent making the clumsiest most uncoordinated attempt I have ever seen to pick it up. Either this was staged so that I'd use picking up the umbrella as an opener, or, she was really wasted. It was so poorly executed, I figured on the latter and decided to pass.

Drugstore

Great place to go for a 30 Euro ( $50) Caesar salad with chicken and a nice sauterne (sweet late-harvest wine). Was a fairly recent vintage, so, didn't have the robust flavor of a mature sauterne, but, was still very tasty. No action to be had here, either, however.

Place Charles de Gaulle Etoile

The street in question is Avenue Wagram near the intersection of Tilsit. Not sure which direction was mentioned, but, the only bus stop I found was opposite the MacDonalds. There's one slightly closer to the Arc de Triumph and one slightly further away on that side. Neither had any action, but, there were some violent teenage bikers hanging out at the MacDs.

Maybe it was Saturday. Maybe it was my unfamiliarity with Paris and French culture, but, nothing accomplished. Hope others have better luck. If the original author would care to post some tips about time and days of the week that work best, that would be good.

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[quote=davinci007]yeah the reports posted in the paris section are daymn right. sex is way too expensive here. seems to be just a fashion capital. better off to save euros and have some nice classy low cost ***** in amsterdam. lolz.

neways. here i go with my experience.

after having read this holy sex guide. i went on an evening stroll on pigalle's main street. the core of rld. of paris. since i am put up at victor masses. on rue de victor masses. since i read about all rip off reports, i hid like 20 euros in my pocket and kept only 40e in my wallet. i simply was passing by all kinds of invites from those folks trying to sell me some free peep stuff. unheeded i came across a small strip/live lap dance/table dance as advertised just before mc. donald's on my left. looking at the low profile look of the strip joint with just stairs leading up, i thought about checking it out.

"20 e" sir, i paid him and climbed the stairs. to my surpirse nothing goin on, just 1 italian jerk, 1 old lady on the bar counter, 3 hoochies one was in late 40's and other 2 quite young, 1 was black. i was made to sit in a dimly lit tiny room with 4.5 sofas surrounding and a pole in the middle. was approached by this old woman, asked me where was i frm and i said brasil, and she said from barcelona, perhaps only knew that country in her head, and i greeted her in espanol, saw q's on her head, and found out she didn't know spanish, lolz. yeah just making me feel at home.

neways, she ordered beer for me and some orange cola for hereself. bar menu listed "biere" for 5e, and colas for 5e s too. she stood up and started stripping by the pole with now only bra and panty on her, she danced for like 5 mins and then came back to sit near me, wore the clothes again and was chatting with me. she was about to order another round of drinks and i sensed fishy and stood up, went out of the room and guess what.

this italian dude wrote up a bill for 207 euros, lol. just remembered by isg brothers here. and gave a firm resistance that i aint gonna pay that bill. he threatened me, made racists comments and i reverted back with same to his surprise. i said, call the police and i will talk to them. he was forcing me to give my credit card and was almost about to rob me, and i still gave firm resistance that look buddy i am frm us and you better be nice or else i report to the police and you will be in for trying to threaten and rip a tourist.

he made me wait for 10 mins, trying to scare me. i stayed firm and resisted him, finally after arguing for 20 mins, i said if you wanna take this 20 euros, take it or else i am leaving. tried to stop me, i pushed him off and he let me go.

so folks, who are reading this trying to get a quickie in paris, i think its now for our fellow isg members and i strongly advise not to try! unless you like messing with these idiots.

better off to goto cologne or amsterdam and worth to spend more "es" there!

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years ago, i sat on a park bench and witnessed a customer being chased down the street by a bouncer with a board in his hand.

for those who still haven't got the message, pigalle is almost always a rip-off, and no, you will not be the lone exception!

Now I buy my dvds of EE girls in a sex shop named SARL MUSE

96, rue Saint-Denis
75001 PARIS
starting prices at 10€

I would like to know some places in Paris or suburbs for good EE dvds under 10 euros can you please write adress of shops here.

Wandered a bit in Port de Clichy and didn't see anything going on, so, headed back to Charles De Gaulle. Etoile (which is a fancy way of saying the streets leading away from the Arch de Triumph at the northwest end of Champs Elysees.

Paris might be less confusing if I spoke French, but, I suspect not by much.

Anyway, didn't find anything resembling action in the places mentioned. However, there's a street part of which is called Rue de Tilsitt and part of which has another name, but, it is kind of an outer circle around the Arch de Triumph and crosses all the streets that lead away from L'Arch forming the etoile (star).

I did find one eastern european streetwalker who spoke French and very broken English. She was probably mid 40s to early 50s. Wanted 80Euros.

I offered 60, no deal. I walked. She was OK looking, but, not $135+ of OK looking. Maybe a 5 if I've had a few glasses of wine.

Didn't find anything else and it was fast approaching midnight, so, I decided I'd catch the train rather than end up walking back again tonight.

Hopefully those that follow will have better luck. I'm outta here tomorrow.

Went to Ban Thai Spa this afternoon for a EU140 ( $230) 2. 5 hour thai massage and foot massage. Beautiful Thai ladies provide excellent and service. If it wasn't for the lack of extras, I'd swear I had been teleported to Thailand. The facility has wonderful ambiance, music that is pleasant, but, relaxing enough to cure insomnia. The ladies seem to speak better English than most I encountered in Thailand and have a good command (as near as I could tell, but, what do I know? ) of French. Definitely their native language is Thai.

Everyone in the spa is very professional and they are very helpful and descriptive at every step of the way. My attendant gave me a very strong and thorough massage, but, repeatedly asked me to tell her if anything started to hurt and checked if I was OK after each escalation on the depth and pressure applied. Also, the moment a muscle started to tense, she'd back off before I could figure out it started to hurt and I never had to tell her a thing. She was truly an accomplished professional.

I didn't ask about extras at check-in, but, looking at the place, it's set up in such a way as to lead me to believe extras simply aren't part of their process. Still, I left there feeling MUCH better (4 days of walking all over Paris had taken their toll and I was dreading each stair by the time I got there, afterwards, I was back to jaunting up and down stairs like the last 4 days had never happened).

So, although not the place to go for hobbying and a bit pricey, I highly recommend this place. There are some less expensive options (around 80EU for an hour if memory serves), but, I'm glad I went for the full treatment.

Enjoy

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Who tried Alexina from:

[url]http://www.alexina-escort.com/en/escort-girl-vip.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Camieleke]Found this address on a French website:

Li Ling (Massage Chinois)
6, Villa St. Charles
75015 Paris

It is in the 15th Arondissement not so far from the Eiffeltower.

Very nice place and very good massage with HJ.
Price = 38 € + 30 € for the extras!

You can find more of this places in Paris. Seems to me one of the cheaper
possibilities to have a good massage with extra.

Camieleke[/QUOTE]Hi Camieleke,

Is it possible you could post the site address please as it may list other possibilities?

Thanks

Hi,

Found a new girl in France.

She looks not from France, or just come here.

Someone try her? I found her tour here:

[url=http://www.escortnews.fr/index.php?id=7341]Liza photos[/url]

[url]http://lizavip.escort24h.com/[/url]

Shana from [url]http://www.escort-paris-shana.com[/url]

She looked very similar to her photos, the body is cool, very neat, I liked her breasts a lot, real heavy big bubs, legs very slender and sexy and a mouth, big sexy mouth, which she uses very skillfully

We got into contact very easily, drank some champagne and she didn’t fix the time saying not to worry about it, the actual time in bed will be counted. We chatted a bit about life, she enquired about the programme, but so far I am far from any s/m, I refused using any toys, strapon etc.

It is visible that she likes the process, she was very hot and initiative, got very excited and sucked everything in the right way! Recommended! Her oral is just fantastic! I could nearly keep myself in order to try her in another way! Then she asked me to play with her bottom, while she was using some long toy for her pussy, that was a fantastic view! I also liked her massage at the end! She was very tender and nearly twined herself around me!

[url]http://www.escort-paris-shana.com[/url]

This thread seems to get invaded by fellow mongerers (or sellers' representatives?) who want to draw our attention to the fact that travelling girls from Eastern Europe are available in Paris prices starting at 250 Euros per hour. (That's close to 400 dollars - a real bargain!) Well... thanks, but I knew that already. How about a few tips concerning good and affordable opportunities instead?

[QUOTE=Priamos]This thread seems to get invaded by fellow mongerers (or sellers' representatives?) who want to draw our attention to the fact that travelling girls from Eastern Europe are available in Paris prices starting at 250 Euros per hour. (That's close to 400 dollars - a real bargain!) Well... thanks, but I knew that already. How about a few tips concerning good and affordable opportunities instead?[/QUOTE]

There are none....

[QUOTE=Priamos]This thread seems to get invaded by sellers' representatives[/QUOTE]
Right!

[QUOTE=Priamos]
How about a few tips concerning good and affordable opportunities instead?[/QUOTE]

Where to f..k in Paris:
- the (disgusting) chinese massage parlors;
- the (disgusting) SW in bois the boulogne, bois the vincennes, etc..;
- the (overpriced) "escorts";
- the French girls, that you can fuck for free, if you have a bit of savoir faire...

If you are into P4P, better go elsewhere (180 km and you can reach some belgian *****houses).

I met Lidia in Paris, I liked her from the first sight, she was tall, lively and talkative. She got undressed quite quickly without long conversations, she asked me in what way I want her, that was quite sweet ! I liked that she didn’t try to draw time, her oral was quite good and long, very tenderly. She was using only her wonderful mouth for this! She was really tight, so I couldn’t enter from the first time. She was hugging me very tightly all the time and was eager to take any position that I wanted ! I finished pretty quickly and honestly cannot understand because of the process itself or from the fact that she was so tenderly embracing my neck and back, it was very nice, as escorts girls as a rule are not so soft ! And also I am not so slim and handsome, 120 kilos ! I didn’t try anal with her, but she said that it is among the services! Afterwards we were lying and talking as old friends and she was petting my body in a very tender manner !

[url]http://lidia-busty-escort.site.voila.fr/[/url]

[QUOTE=Member #1006]
Where to f..k in Paris:
- the (disgusting) chinese massage parlors... [/QUOTE]

He, he, he... Two observations, though. First, while I agree with you that Paris is pretty dead (thanks Sarko!) you'd have to concede that there's a number of privateers who can be contacted through sites such as niamodel. The reason I personally don't do it is I think the brouhaha involved in phoning, travelling to their neighbourhood, phoning a second time, getting the exact address, going toi the exact address, phoning a third time to get the digicode... is too f***ing stupid and time consuming. Second, I think you're being unfair on the Chinese massage parlours. They are small converted shops, sure, and the girls mostly offer nothing more than a body massage plus HJ. That said, I've found the girls working in these places to be a heckuvalot friendlier than many of those who demand hundreds of euros for their services. Come to think, if anyone has a good Chinese massage parlour to recommend I'll be all ears... ;-)

[QUOTE=Member #1006] the French girls, that you can fuck for free, if you have a bit of savoir faire...[/QUOTE]

C'est que... I DO have a bit of savoir faire. (I too live in Paris.) It's just that I'm a man in my late 40s, with a wedding ring on my finger and the look of a mid-level executiv - which is what I am. Sure, I could chat up experienced women trying to get over their second divorce - and, in fact, have done so - but making a pass after young students and shop assistants? Ah non, ca va pas ca!

[QUOTE=Priamos]...you'd have to concede that there's a number of privateers who can be contacted through sites such as niamodel. [/QUOTE]

I get you point Priamos, but honestly, I never found anything worthful on Nia... and I'm not talking about the hassle to get the adress and blah blah ( I agree, it's a pain in the ass), it's just that they are all overpriced, and the service is almost always below the average...

[QUOTE=Priamos]
Second, I think you're being unfair on the Chinese massage parlours .... That said, I've found the girls working in these places to be a heckuvalot friendlier than many of those who demand hundreds of euros for their services.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you, and am willing to change my opinion, if I could find a CLEAN chinese/thai massage parlour...
"Disgusting" was meant in the sense of lacking hygiene...

[QUOTE=Priamos]
... chat up experienced women trying to get over their second divorce - and, in fact, have done so - but making a pass after young students and shop assistants? Ah non, ca va pas ca![/QUOTE]

Onestly, I have nothing against students and shop assistants... sometimes you can find a little gem..
And chatting unsatisfied/divorced/bored women can also be worth the effort... it only is very time consuming...

a+

She picked up the phone herself when I called , that's what I like as I am not a lover og aghancies and etc.

[url]http://www.paris-companion.com/[/url]

Similarity to the photos is 95 %. In life she is a bit plain in face, but it is still very pretty, but much more friendly and warmer. I could guess beautiful lightly sun-tanned body under the airy dress, the skin is very pleasant to touch! Her breasts and the stomach were tempting me to pet them. And her wonderful legs, I wanted to kiss them from the hips to the top of her toes.

[QUOTE=Jake 66]She picked up the phone herself when I called , that's what I like as I am not a lover og aghancies and etc.

[url]http://www.paris-companion.com/[/url]
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wasser66]
I met Lidia in Paris, I liked her from the first sight, she was tall, lively and talkative. She got undressed quite quickly without long conversations, she asked me in what way ...

[url]http://lidia-busty-escort.site.voila.fr/[/url]
[/QUOTE]

Jake and Wasser, and all the other scummers (Leslyemoritz and Andre08 for exemple), why don't you go somwhere else posting your FAKE ADVERTISING?

[QUOTE=Camieleke]Found this address on a French website:

Li Ling (Massage Chinois)
6, Villa St. Charles
75015 Paris

It is in the 15th Arondissement not so far from the Eiffeltower.

Very nice place and very good massage with HJ.
Price = 38 € + 30 € for the extras!

You can find more of this places in Paris. Seems to me one of the cheaper
possibilities to have a good massage with extra.

Camieleke[/QUOTE]

30 Euros is the newbie price. Price for HJ is 10/20 Euro (called "finition" or "massage complet". For 30 Euros you should get specials, such as CBJ, or touching the girl's pussy, etc.... There are several such small places in Paris. They are quite discreet and often even advertise they don't provide erotic service, because there is a risk that police close their shop (several did close recently). The last one I went to even put in the room: "it's forbidden to take your underwear off" Ah! Ah! It's the first thing I did.

The best way to spot them is the price, if it's cheap (i.e. 38/45 euros per hour for "massage chinois"), they cannot make enough money from it, so they probably make money on additional services. Don't expect anything from expensive, high class places. You can also ask to see the room: the tissue box is a good indicator of what may happen. Several of them in 13th, and 15th arrondissements.

[QUOTE=El Frances]30 Euros is the newbie price. Price for HJ is 10/20 Euro (called "finition" or "massage complet". For 30 Euros you should get specials, such as CBJ, or touching the girl's pussy, etc.... ....Several of them in 13th, and 15th arrondissements.[/QUOTE]

Would it be possible to have some addresses by PM?

Cheers

The problem is that my favourite places have been closed down last month, and I did not have the opportunity to try new ones.
You can go to this one, I know they provide service, but service is so so (too quick):
50 rue dutot
paris 15
tel 06 28 58 07 03 tel 01 47 34 93 72
1 heure 39 euros

I have spotted a few places for future try (by experience, I would say the odds are 80%). In France prostitution is legal, but pimping is not! So the boss will probably never admit anything if you ask. You have to talk directly with the masseuse. Well, if you are an obvious foreigner, maybe the boss will give you some info.

Let me know about it if you try

I did not try this one yet, but it looks promising:
18 rue mazagran 75010
Tél:01 42 47 14 49

These maybe:
35 rue duranton , 75015 Paris
01 45 57 28 51 or 06 34 05 48 43

6 rue andré antoine
75018 paris
tel : 01 42 23 71 17
06 09 93 18 18

68 rue Albert,75013 paris
Metro 14 Olympiades ou Bibliotheques
Tel--01 53 79 93 58

I also contacted this chinese girl at 0627889773, but had no opportunity to test. She’s supposed to be 26. She provides FS for 80 + 30 for ST hotel, in 13th district. She probably doesn’t speak English. If someone tries her, let me know if it’s good.

Now it’s holiday time for me…..

[QUOTE=El Frances]
I have spotted a few places for future try (by experience, I would say the odds are 80%). In France prostitution is legal, but pimping is not!


I did not try this one yet, but it looks promising:
18 rue mazagran 75010
Tél:01 42 47 14 49
[/QUOTE]

Well, I don't think you're totally correct: there ARE laws against prostitution in France, just like so many other laws in this country they are normally not enforced. It is true, on the other hand, that the police is very tough on pimping.

I visited the shop in Mazagran last week, and I don't think they're necessarily offering an "extra service". The masseuse who was available was a motherly Chinese woman close to mid-life who gave me an excellent 60 minutes Chinese massage for the limited price of 38 euros. However, she remained dressed and never hinted at a possibility of "body massage" or "finition erotique". Maybe she would have accepted if I had proposed it? But I didn't. She didn't tempt me that much.

[QUOTE=Priamos]I visited the shop in Mazagran last week, and I don't think they're necessarily offering an "extra service". The masseuse who was available was a motherly Chinese woman close to mid-life who gave me an excellent 60 minutes Chinese massage for the limited price of 38 euros. However, she remained dressed and never hinted at a possibility of "body massage" or "finition erotique". Maybe she would have accepted if I had proposed it? But I didn't. She didn't tempt me that much.[/QUOTE]I visited there 2 - 3 months ago, good massage by a chinese lady but absolutely no indication of additional services being available, despite speaking good french. Will return as the massage is good value for money.

[QUOTE=Prodiver]Went to Ban Thai Spa this afternoon for a EU140 ( $230) 2. 5 hour thai massage and foot massage.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]

Could you please post the address?

I spent the nite woundering around the Champs Elysees.

I didn't see any action, just alot of tourists.

Hello all,

I was in Paris last summer, one night I was walking around the back streets of the Scribe / Opera area where there were a few video sex shops and between them I saw a lady pointing to the place she was waving me in. I entered and it was a dim lighted bar with 5-6 women. Took a seat at the bar where the owner/manager (a french lady, late 40s who spoke excellent english) explained to me that If I paid 200 Euros I could go downstaires to a privite area with the lady of my choice. I worked the amount down to 150 and she agreed. Did't have the cash on me thoguh, so she offered that her bouncer walk me to the nearest ATM. After I got back, chose a lady who led me downstaires to a door with digitial lock, we went in (at this point I was a bit concerened) and it was a lounge area that VERY dim lighted, as I walked around I saw another lady riding a guy (which kinda tuned me off). Anway, she took me to another corner of the area and began chatting and dancing a bit. She started unzi[ping my pants and started covered oral. As that was the extent of my interest I finsidhed off soon after and left.

It was an overall good expeirence I would say, with all the staff being very nice.

I am in Paris now, and walked about te same area but couldn't find the place (only the video sex shops ae still there).

I was woundering if anyone knows if these type of places still exisit in that area ? And if not, where could I find locations of incall escorts in Paris ?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Cpf013]Hello all,

I was in Paris last summer, one night I was walking around the back streets of the Scribe / Opera area where there were a few video sex shops and between them I saw a lady pointing to the place she was waving me in. I entered and it was a dim lighted bar with 5-6 women. Took a seat at the bar where the owner/manager (a french lady, late 40s who spoke excellent english) explained to me that If I paid 200 Euros I could go downstaires to a privite area with the lady of my choice. I worked the amount down to 150 and she agreed. Did't have the cash on me thoguh, so she offered that her bouncer walk me to the nearest ATM. After I got back, chose a lady who led me downstaires to a door with digitial lock, we went in (at this point I was a bit concerened) and it was a lounge area that VERY dim lighted, as I walked around I saw another lady riding a guy (which kinda tuned me off). Anway, she took me to another corner of the area and began chatting and dancing a bit. She started unzi[ping my pants and started covered oral. As that was the extent of my interest I finsidhed off soon after and left.

It was an overall good expeirence I would say, with all the staff being very nice.

I am in Paris now, and walked about te same area but couldn't find the place (only the video sex shops ae still there).

I was woundering if anyone knows if these type of places still exisit in that area ? And if not, where could I find locations of incall escorts in Paris ?

Thanks![/QUOTE]The place called the Sauna Club and its closed because of the price were way too high. Yes some ladies were good looking, but not worth 200 euros. Now if you are looking for nice girls try the ring around the Arc the Triomphe, somedays you can find really girls (20-28) walking for 150 euros a session. You can also try the Belleville or Strasbourg Saint-Denis areas for chinese woman. Its the cheapest you can get but many are really ugly. But a few are ok, just have a look, in daytime. Voila good fuck

Paris is a desert, fellow punters. Escort are really unprofessional most of the time. Average price of 250 € / 400 $ per hour does not automatically mean you will get a great service. Better get a short ride on TGV to Brussels or Aachen.

Having been thru paris twice if mongering is your thing unless you booking a highclass escort it aint happing jump on the train to the neighboring countries for fun.

[QUOTE=Kalimero68]The place called the Sauna Club and its closed because of the price were way too high. Yes some ladies were good looking, but not worth 200 euros. Now if you are looking for nice girls try the ring around the Arc the Triomphe, somedays you can find really girls (20-28) walking for 150 euros a session. You can also try the Belleville or Strasbourg Saint-Denis areas for chinese woman. Its the cheapest you can get but many are really ugly. But a few are ok, just have a look, in daytime. Voila good fuck[/QUOTE]Thanks,

Do you know of any other similar place in that area (scribe/opera) ? I know its over-priced, but for me its very convienant. You see, If I had time to walk around and look for women to pick up, I would hit the clubs and not look for a WG ;)

Thanks again,

Cheers

[QUOTE=Priamos]
I visited the shop in Mazagran last week, and I don't think they're necessarily offering an "extra service". The masseuse who was available was a motherly Chinese woman close to mid-life who gave me an excellent 60 minutes Chinese massage for the limited price of 38 euros. However, she remained dressed and never hinted at a possibility of "body massage" or "finition erotique". Maybe she would have accepted if I had proposed it? But I didn't. She didn't tempt me that much.[/QUOTE]

Hmmm! Maybe I should issue a complaint for misleading advertising. In their add, they write that they have five young masseuses and provide massage as in shanghai!

Well I know a place called "Le Baron". Its a famous nightclub where you can go fishing. But you have to take the girl at your place.

[QUOTE=Cpf013]Thanks,

Do you know of any other similar place in that area (scribe/opera) ? I know its over-priced, but for me its very convienant. You see, If I had time to walk around and look for women to pick up, I would hit the clubs and not look for a WG ;)

Thanks again,

Cheers[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=El Frances]Hmmm! Maybe I should issue a complaint for misleading advertising. In their add, they write that they have five young masseuses and provide massage as in shanghai![/QUOTE]Maybe you should. Though, after our exchange I went back to re-sample the place. This time round they had three masseuses working, including my old (!) friend and one who looked half-way attractive. I would, however, object to the word "young" - except perhaps in a Parisian context where women well into their 40s refer to themselves as "jeune femme". My guess will be that they retain five employees, not all of whom are there at the same time. The half-way attractive woman was busy giving a foot massage to an elderly lady so I was assigned the third provider, a typical masseuse with the body of a wrestler and, judging from her hands and face, 35-40 years of age. In all fairness, though, she DID give me a good, professional sports massage, and she DID offer me a "finition manuelle" (handjob) for an additional 30 euros at the end. I accepted, but perhaps shouldn't have: she put more of her soul into the massage than the finition. I hypothesise that she is a real masseuse who does the HJ out of necessity rather than a working girl who has learned to do a massage as well.

So... summing up, you were right: they do offer this service. But, Shanghai it ain't.

Hey guys,

Was wondering whats the best places to go for streetwalkers?

From the posts it seems like the area around arc de triomphe, rue de joubert are the best places? Any others?

Also I've seen many bad posts about pigalle, but as its the red light district it must be fairly easy to find brothels there, eg soho can be a rip off at time but you just look for the doors with "busty model" are there not any palces like this?

Look forward to hearing from you guys.

[QUOTE=Britishguyparis]Hey guys,

Was wondering whats the best places to go for streetwalkers?

From the posts it seems like the area around arc de triomphe, rue de joubert are the best places? Any others?

Also I've seen many bad posts about pigalle, but as its the red light district it must be fairly easy to find brothels there, eg soho can be a rip off at time but you just look for the doors with "busty model" are there not any palces like this?

Look forward to hearing from you guys.[/QUOTE]

You are in the wrong country. As a Amercan (ugly yes) I found no brothels whatsoever in Paris, one or two street walkers asking for 200+ euros etc. Take the train up to Brussells or Amsterdam or better yet one of the FKK's in Germany.

Sorry maybe others can help, but while I loved Paris there was very little monger avaialble and what was cost more than what is reasonable

JL

[QUOTE=Priamos]Maybe you should. Though, after our exchange I went back to re-sample the place. This time round they had three masseuses working, including my old (!) friend and one who looked half-way attractive. etc...

So... summing up, you were right: they do offer this service. But, Shanghai it ain't.[/QUOTE]

Anyway there are more places to test!
You can take this one out of the list. No special service.
68 rue Albert,75013 paris
Metro 14 Olympiades ou Bibliotheques
Tel--01 53 79 93 58

Can anyone confirm if these pornstars are available in France?

[url]http://www.pamescorts.com/escort.php?country=73&name=France[/url]

[QUOTE=Strike 69]Can anyone confirm if these pornstars are available in France?

[url]http://www.pamescorts.com/escort.php?country=73&name=France[/url][/QUOTE]As far as I know these are not porn stars, just expensive escorts! Somr of them have been around for a while are are very expensive.

[QUOTE=J Long]You are in the wrong country. As a Amercan (ugly yes) I found no brothels whatsoever in Paris, one or two street walkers asking for 200+ euros etc. Take the train up to Brussells or Amsterdam or better yet one of the FKK's in Germany.

Sorry maybe others can help, but while I loved Paris there was very little monger avaialble and what was cost more than what is reasonable

JL[/QUOTE]


My experience is limited, but I did find an acceptable street walker on Rue Joubert for 70 euros. But be forewarned, most were older and would require a long visit to the Brasserie to get your beer goggles on.

Rue Joubert has always been the best quality to price ratio in Paris.
See this post from May 2006 for more
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=468733&postcount=810[/url]

I don’t visit the ladies anymore, but I do walk down the street.
Unfortunately there is no new talent coming in, and the women get older and rarer as time passes.
They now tend not to stand out in the street.
They instead congregate - usually together - in groups of up to 4 or 5 at a cafe. Ages are usually 40 and upwards.
If you weren't in the know, you might notice nothing untoward.
The corner cafe on Caumartin and Joubert is one haunt, usually the table on the street furthest to the east, away from Galerie Lafayette. The Dahlia cafe is another... usually inside. I guess with the winter coming, they will hang out inside. There may be punters sitting beside them. You can only be sure they are SWs from the knowing looks, and the attempts to dress just a tad provocatively.
There is also an Asian cafe beside the Dahlia where Anna the Moroccan hangs out still in the evenings, sometimes alone. Generally they stick to the cafes on the south side of the street, on the Opera side, and they tend not to be in the Japanese restaurants (this, alog with Sarko, is the death of them).

Over the past year, if you go one street behind (rue de la Victoire, where it intersects Joubert at a fork), there are 2 or 3 SWs who actually do stand on the street… one 50y old blond, one brunette, and a younger more attractive one occasionally.

There was just one time over the past year when I saw no one at 20h30. More likely cos all busy. Best is really to aim to plan a meal there, and monitor the scene. Better still, join and drink/eat with the women (drinks all reasonably priced).

See this post from May 2006 for more
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=468733&postcount=810[/url]

[QUOTE=El Frances]Anyway there are more places to test!
You can take this one out of the list. No special service.
68 rue Albert,75013 paris
Metro 14 Olympiades ou Bibliotheques
Tel--01 53 79 93 58[/QUOTE]

I am in the unenviable position of being able to add an address to the list, without being able to recommend it. I came across an advertisement for massage by Korean women (yes, I know: Korean my foot...) in Boulogne-Billancourt - just outside the city boundaries next to Porte Saint Cloud. The address is: 24 Route de la Reine.

On the plus side, they give a full nude body massage like in the old days. On the minus side, the prices are very high. I paid something like 180 Euros for the right to "carress" my masseuse, who washed my hands with some disinfectant and encouraged me to not only carress but also finger her. However, despite my hopes, even at that price a BJ was not included. I went twice to sample different girls. The second was more "commercante" and intimated that extra services could be included for a hefty premium. I passed. Prices would be climbing toward the 300 Euros mark which, frankly, is ridiculous for what they offer.

I am visiting Paris soon, and did entertain some hopes. Which have been pretty well dashed by reading the forum! Having said that, my last mongering trip (the region south of Frankfurt) did rather disillusion me, so I am not devastated. Instead, I was thinking that maybe I can pull in a few Sex Shows.

I know of the Loving Chair and the Private Shop, having been to both before (last time with my wife, and we almost got kicked out of the hotel, we made so much noise when we got back. But that's another story). I am struggling to find any alternatives, though, and there doesn't seem to be a forum dedicated to the enjoyment of sex shows or striptease, so I thought it seems to vaguely fit into the remit of THIS forum.

Any ideas, guys? A horny load of buggers like you must SURELY have enormous experience in this genre.

Anyone has any input on good quality swinger places?

Will go there with my Brasilian girlfriend in 2 weeks time.

I myself lost interest in Paris as a "sex city" when the authorities closed down Rubys nightclub, Rue Dauphine, a couple of years ago. One of my favourite places compared to anything in the world.

Have fun

For good swinger info look up the reports by routard ! and enjoy paris!

With 72 hours on my hands in Paris, I thought I'd check out the old Rue St Denis stroll to see if it still was in business. On a fine Saturday afternoon, I am pleased to report that the street action was brisk. There were, I would say, 20 or so women working. Most were on the older side. Most appeared to be French, with a few who may have moved from Africa more recently. I expected more Eastern Europeans, but found none.

They were not hard to find. From the Strasbourg / St Denis metro stop, I made my way along Blvd St Denis in the 2e Arrondissement to Rue St Denis and turned left. Within a block I began to encounter women dressed like hookers standing in front of doorways. They also work the side streets one block either way of Rue St Denis.

The greatest concentration appeared to be on Rue Blondel between Rue St Denis and Rue Sebastapol. I attempted to strike up a conversation with several of them, but found that my French was not acceptable. I was, however, able to discern that the going rate quoted was €50.

I zig-zagged down the side streets to Rue Réaumur, then doubled back on Rue St Denis to the corner of Rue de Caire. In front of a building on a corner, I struck up a conversation in broken Franglais with a blonde I would say was in her 40s. She was wearing thigh-highs, a mini-skirt and showed ample decolletage. I was suitably interested. We agreed upon €50 and proceeded into the doorway where she stood and up five flights of stairs. After the transaction, she appeared to try and upsell me, but not too hard. With a shrug, we began to remove our clothes.

Service was rather mechanical. Kissing was out the question, we remained anonymous to one another. Nonetheless, the desired result was achieved.

She made me clean up in the kitchen sink, where I had a full view of her bathroom, including a bidet. That struck me as odd, but who was I to argue?

Nothing compared to Brussels or Amsterdam, but hey, it was something.

After St Denis, I went the following night to Montmartre and Pigalle in the 18me Arrondissement. While there were more sex shops along Blvd de Clichy than on Rue St Denis, there was no street action to be found that night. The streets were mobbed with tourists. I had heard and read that the clubs were notorious for skinning out-of-towners with the champagne scam, so avoided the ones more aggressively touted. The whole area along Blvd de Clichy from Place de Clichy to Blanche reminds me of Times Square in New York as it was getting Disneyfied. Perhaps it was worth a look, but not for serious mongers.

[QUOTE=Blooper]I am visiting Paris soon, and did entertain some hopes. Which have been pretty well dashed by reading the forum! Having said that, my last mongering trip (the region south of Frankfurt) did rather disillusion me, so I am not devastated. Instead, I was thinking that maybe I can pull in a few Sex Shows.

I know of the Loving Chair and the Private Shop, having been to both before (last time with my wife, and we almost got kicked out of the hotel, we made so much noise when we got back. But that's another story). I am struggling to find any alternatives, though, and there doesn't seem to be a forum dedicated to the enjoyment of sex shows or striptease, so I thought it seems to vaguely fit into the remit of THIS forum.

Any ideas, guys? A horny load of buggers like you must SURELY have enormous experience in this genre.[/QUOTE]

There are 2 places for sex shows,which are not rip-off (avoid all joints in Pigalle at all costs...)

Theatre Chochotte, in so called "quartier latin" which provide sophisticated hard core shows, and "show girls", near "chatelet" which provides girls only hard core show. You only pay your entrance fee, no drinks, no money to the girls. Do NOT accept to go for the private shows, they don't allow anything more than what you get for free.
Addresses and details of these clubs can be found in "Pariscope"

I visited Showgirls this summer and had a good time. It is located at 5 Rue Des Halles which is near the intersection of Rue Des Halles and Rue De Rivoli. Entry fee I think was 50E. The girls dance on the stage then continue into the audience fully nude and put on shows for each individual. Most will allow touching except for private parts, although some will not. No additional tip is expected. I did take a real friendly girl up on a private dance (downstairs) from the club. It was 50 or 60E for entry and you could take care of yourself while the girl put on a show. I opted for 60E more for a hand job from her with touching all over. I think there were about a half dozen dancers and shift change was around 6 so you had a new crew then.

Hello everyone,

I will be in Paris for a week and was wondering what would be the closest FKK-like place from there.

Ideally, it would be within 1-2 hours from Paris.

Thanks in advance for all your help guys.

[QUOTE=Royal Lover]Hello everyone,

I will be in Paris for a week and was wondering what would be the closest FKK-like place from there.

Ideally, it would be within 1-2 hours from Paris.

Thanks in advance for all your help guys.[/QUOTE]

The nearest FKK is Lancelot, in Offenburg - Germany. Not one of the best FKK... but sure better than Paris!
Take the train to Strasbourg, 1h30 approx, and then rent a car (35 km approx).

Otherwise, drive from Paris to the Belgian border (180 km) and you'll find a series of small brothels. Nothing like FKK, but you can fuck legally, for 60 to 100 euros.

Everything is better than Paris!

[QUOTE=Member #1006]The nearest FKK is Lancelot, in Offenburg - Germany. Not one of the best FKK... but sure better than Paris!
Take the train to Strasbourg, 1h30 approx, and then rent a car (35 km approx).
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Actually 1006, that's a tad imprecise. The train to Strasbourg takes 2 hours 20 minutes. Our friend can do better than that by taking the train to Saarbruecken (1 hours 50 minutes) and visit FKK Club 214. In addition, this club is located on the outskirts of Saarbruecken, so he can take a cab from the railway station rather than rent a car.

[QUOTE=Priamos]Actually 1006, that's a tad imprecise. The train to Strasbourg takes 2 hours 20 minutes. Our friend can do better than that by taking the train to Saarbruecken (1 hours 50 minutes) and visit FKK Club 214. In addition, this club is located on the outskirts of Saarbruecken, so he can take a cab from the railway station rather than rent a car.[/QUOTE]

Thx Priamos, I never thought of that club... think I must read more carefully Youppie... ;-)

[QUOTE=Member #1006]Thx Priamos, I never thought of that club... think I must read more carefully Youppie... ;-)[/QUOTE]Thanks to both of you guys.

I really appreciate your help!

Hey guys,

I banged this Brazilian girl from Recife some time ago. It was a so-so experience.

Getting to her is a journey. She first tells you to go to 39 rue Etienne Marcel, but there, one has to call her again. She then tells you that she is actually across the street, at number 64. OK, then one must call again. She then tells you the staircase number (F) and to go up the first floor. When one rings, she makes you wait, so to be sure that no other people is on the floor.

It started off well, because the girl is really intelligent, and she's a beautiful mulatta ... beautiful curves, perfect bunda, perfect round breasts. Her pictures are real. Social time was good, and I had great expectations. Unfortunately, it all went up and down afterwards : covered blowjob (-), nice doggy (+), no kissing (-), good anal (+), interruptions from her roommate (-), she was really wet (+), globally very passive (-).

After half an hour, she started saying that she was tired. I said, come on, you are just 24 yo! Then she said that she had a doctor's appointment (yes, I had reserved late, too close to the closing time on her website).

Since we just had sex for half an hour, I paid her only 100 Euros, but then she said that anal was 50 Euros extra, so damage was 150 Euros in total.

I will not repeat. It is a pity that the Brazilian talent gets so wasted in Europe.

BB.

Her links :
[url]http://www.missive.info/XX8076/882433[/url]
[url]http://www.missive.info/XX8076/875916[/url]

I found this nice massage place in Paris.
youyou massage - Centre de relaxation
113, Rue de Charenton

This place is close to the "gare de Lyon".
Very nice place with young chinese girls.
45€ + 20€ for a HJ!

C.

Are there any Korean KTV karaoke rooms in Paris?

I just went by Li Ling (Massage Chinois) at 6, Villa St. Charles but it is closed. There is a sign in the door that says "Vacant".

[QUOTE=Camieleke]I found this nice massage place in Paris.
youyou massage - Centre de relaxation
113, Rue de Charenton

This place is close to the "gare de Lyon".
Very nice place with young chinese girls.
45€ + 20€ for a HJ!

C.[/QUOTE]I tried this place tonight, it was not hard to find, just up the road from the Gare de Lyon train station. Massage was so-so, HJ ok, but I'll go again.

Hi,

Paris is the most disappointing mongering place that I have come across in europe. Man it is really pathetic.

People who are searching please go to belgium, netherlands or barcelona. Utter disappointment.

I tried calling a few providers. Quotes were 300, 400 and 250 for an hour! Fuck. Who pays that kind of money.

Chengiz

So. My first report after beeing always too busy to write. But no excuses anymore

Tried You You Massage as well. Massage before HJ was actually very good. (45 Euro). The girl wanted to have 50 additional Euros for a HJ. Negotiated her down to 30 (I think less was really not possible with her) but opted for the option "touching her" for 50 Euro. Was really not worthy the money as she resisted to take off her clothes. So touching was kind of difficult. After the HJ the massage was somehow finished for her and she was more into talking. So try to get a good massage before the HJ!

All in all it was nice but not worthy the money spent (although 45 & 30 would have been OK).

Went further on to "Showgirls". The entrance fee there (50 Euro) was really a good investment. I really enjoyed the show and spent 3 hours inside. A bit too long but I was waiting for a very nice Russian to come back to the stage again. Obviously her shift was already over. As described in a previous report you can touch the girls all over (except the Privates). Will definitely go there again next time in Paris.

Happy Hunting!

Quorn

I met this sexy babby Diana in Paris.

here is her telephone number, she has a web-site but I don't remember now the address.

06 43 75 73 16

[email]diana.escortgirl@gmail.com[/email]

Her body is very firm, fat is nearly absent at all, breasts and bottom are very nicely shaped, pleasant to touch and stroke. In her photos tits look a bit bigger, but in reality very youthful looking perking and sexy, absolutely natural, her photos are edited of course, but still recognizable, I will not say where her face is prettier in reality or in the photos where it is a bit edited.

When I asked for anal she in a flirting manner said that today she would not be able, so I decided not to insist, when I got undressed she said that IT is so big that even if she wanted to let it she would not be able, lied of course but it was very pleasant! I checked her bottom and made the conclusion that it was used not once for such occasions! Her body is very pleasant to have, she is very passionate and firing, after a short massage I wasn’t sure I would be able to do it the second time and asked her to get dressed but she didn’t let me do it and jumped on me for the second time. I am quite demanding to oral but she did it perfectly, in a tender and caring manner! For a long time and with pleasant sounds!

[QUOTE=Quorn]So. My first report after beeing always too busy to write. But no excuses anymore

Tried You You Massage as well. Massage before HJ was actually very good. (45 Euro). The girl wanted to have 50 additional Euros for a HJ. Negotiated her down to 30 (I think less was really not possible with her) but opted for the option "touching her" for 50 Euro. Was really not worthy the money as she resisted to take off her clothes. So touching was kind of difficult. After the HJ the massage was somehow finished for her and she was more into talking. So try to get a good massage before the HJ!

All in all it was nice but not worthy the money spent (although 45 & 30 would have been OK).
Quorn[/QUOTE]

Youyou is OK. Massage quality varies according to the girls, but nothing impressive. I like the friendly atmosphere of this place and it's not far from my home. I always paid 20 E for HJ, whatever the girl concerned. Never pay more than that in Paris. I agree with you that the extra options are not worth the money. 10 E more for touching legs, 10 E more for touching tits etc...It's better to take only HJ for 20 E. You probably got the younger girl who is quite cute but more greedy, and also always finishes service before time has elapsed.

[QUOTE=Master2008]I met this sexy babby Diana in Paris.

here is her telephone number, she has a web-site but I don't remember now the address.

06 43 75 73 16

[email]diana.escortgirl@gmail.com[/email]

I have never seen her and haven't been to Paris in ages but a little googling brought the following info:

The web address is [url]http://www.dianaglamour.com[/url]

The same telephone and email contact there as in your message and the description matches.

The site is entirely in French, which is no problem for me but non-speakers might want to keep a translator handy.

I need to say that the similarity to the photos is 70 %, she is not as slim as in the photos, but not critically, breasts are smaller, the face is a bit more simple, in general not so much my type, though the lovers of young body will be delighted. She was sociable, fun to talk with, made jokes.

Everything was in condom, she gave me marvelous BJ good, tender, superb technique The view from the bottom was very good, firm and girlish. I fucked her only once in doggy style as there was no wish for the second time.

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I've just read some of the Paris posts and have to say with the exception of Billy Boy it sounds pretty miserable.

I traveled there a few years back and was advised to check out the Boi de Bulogne (large park off Champs I'll Ese) at the Arc de triumphe.

Mostly at night the eastern european girls were out giving blows and sex.

I wasn't there long enough to check it out went to franfurt at centro train station area. Tons and tons of providers!

[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]Hey guys,

I banged this Brazilian girl from Recife some time ago. It was a so-so experience.

Getting to her is a journey. She first tells you to go to 39 rue Etienne Marcel, but there, one has to call her again. She then tells you that she is actually across the street, at number 64. OK, then one must call again. She then tells you the staircase number (F) and to go up the first floor. When one rings, she makes you wait, so to be sure that no other people is on the floor.

It started off well, because the girl is really intelligent, and she's a beautiful mulatta ... beautiful curves, perfect bunda, perfect round breasts. Her pictures are real. Social time was good, and I had great expectations. Unfortunately, it all went up and down afterwards : covered blowjob (-), nice doggy (+), no kissing (-), good anal (+), interruptions from her roommate (-), she was really wet (+), globally very passive (-).

After half an hour, she started saying that she was tired. I said, come on, you are just 24 yo! Then she said that she had a doctor's appointment (yes, I had reserved late, too close to the closing time on her website).

Since we just had sex for half an hour, I paid her only 100 Euros, but then she said that anal was 50 Euros extra, so damage was 150 Euros in total.

I will not repeat. It is a pity that the Brazilian talent gets so wasted in Europe.

BB.

Her links :
[url]http://www.missive.info/XX8076/882433[/url]
[url]http://www.missive.info/XX8076/875916[/url][/QUOTE]


Just a warning to all : see the links here about are no more active.
It isn't sure but it can be related to giving here information that ruined her protection. She did look very cautious from what you say.
And she was right to do as all this is illegal in France now and they really enforce the law.
Don't you trust that french cops also read reports here ?
So you just told them where to go for an easy catch...
I am not judgemental I just explain why it is better to give this as PM and not ring a bell to cops.
This may have just resulted in the girl busted and on a plane back to Brazil if she didn't have legal documents to be staying and working in the EC...
So, of course, keep reporting but as you do on the US forum, don't make it too easy for LE. It is just my two cents.

[QUOTE=EFrog]Just a warning to all : see the links here about are no more active.
It isn't sure but it can be related to giving here information that ruined her protection. She did look very cautious from what you say.
And she was right to do as all this is illegal in France now and they really enforce the law.
Don't you trust that french cops also read reports here ?
So you just told them where to go for an easy catch...
I am not judgemental I just explain why it is better to give this as PM and not ring a bell to cops.
This may have just resulted in the girl busted and on a plane back to Brazil if she didn't have legal documents to be staying and working in the EC...
So, of course, keep reporting but as you do on the US forum, don't make it too easy for LE. It is just my two cents.[/QUOTE]

???? The girl openly advertised her services on the web as many others do on missive or other websites. There are many ads giving price, type of service (i.e. anal, BBJ, etc..). Have a look for example at niamodel.com. Some girls have been advertising there for months or years and never get arrested. Also some forums such as escortfr provide user comments on these girls. In the future, if the police wants to arrest girls advertising their services, they surely will start with sites and forums in French rather than with ISG!

[QUOTE=Master2008]I met this sexy babby Diana in Paris.

here is her telephone number, she has a web-site but I don't remember now the address.

06 43 75 73 16

[email]diana.escortgirl@gmail.com[/email]

Her body is very firm, fat is nearly absent at all, breasts and bottom are very nicely shaped, pleasant to touch and stroke. In her photos tits look a bit bigger, but in reality very youthful looking perking and sexy, absolutely natural, her photos are edited of course, but still recognizable, I will not say where her face is prettier in reality or in the photos where it is a bit edited.
[/QUOTE]

...and ALL THIS for only 600 Euros (900 Dollars) for two hours' outcall? Wow, that's the best and cheapest offer I've ever had!! :)

[QUOTE=El Frances]???? The girl openly advertised her services on the web as many others do on missive or other websites. There are many ads giving price, type of service (i.e. anal, BBJ, etc..). Have a look for example at niamodel.com. Some girls have been advertising there for months or years and never get arrested. Also some forums such as escortfr provide user comments on these girls. In the future, if the police wants to arrest girls advertising their services, they surely will start with sites and forums in French rather than with ISG![/QUOTE]
to answer quickly :
First several website has really been closed under the "pimping" reason
Second : when on the site they advertise, the girls are telling mobile phone numbers and not as it was in the post here : address , then the way to a second address and final the stair where to find her flat.
Check about the web sites you tell about : you never get physical address, you get for example : this or this area....
But if you think it is right ... great...
It will just lower an already very short market.

Hmmm! Maybe it's true that giving the exact address is not so safe for the girl...

I checked the local high end strip clubs in Paris, namely "Larry Flint - Hustler Club" and Pink Paradise"

They've got amazing and gorgeous looking strippers, but a sure easy way to part with your money on lap dancesm

I'm curious if anyone on this board as gotten anything extra from these clubs, perhaps in the champagne room?

[QUOTE=El Frances]Hmmm! Maybe it's true that giving the exact address is not so safe for the girl...[/QUOTE]

I'd agree. Though in the concrete case I've also banged Bimbo Boy's Brazilian girl and, believe me, if he got her busted then he's rendered the mongering world a gigantic favour. :)

[QUOTE=Priamos]...and ALL THIS for only 600 Euros (900 Dollars) for two hours' outcall? Wow, that's the best and cheapest offer I've ever had!! :)[/QUOTE]LOL.

That's France. Just like the price of alcohol during Prohibition in US.

I have walked the well documented St. Denis and Joubert area many times, but have only taken French ladies twice. After mongering throughout almost all of South and Central America, most of Western Europe and most of Asia, I have to say that French SW's are the worst in the world. Both times were really awful, the worst I have ever had. They really know nothing about the business. All guys want a GF experience, but rarely do they get it regardless of the country. French SW's are the antithesis of the GF experience. Immediate upselling, always in a rush, brusque impersonal attitude, no touching allowed, and constant pressure on you to finish. I understand them being a bit mechanical, but a robot would have more feeling. I would like to say something positive about them, but I just can't think of anything. The stereotype of the French being great lovers is likely not true. Otherwise, how could the SW's fail so badly?

Sorry if I offend any French, please feel free to tell me I am wrong.

Mongernerd

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I came across a Chinese massage parlour that offers all the extra services in a most unusual place: the southernmost end of Rue Raynouard, just across from the Maison de Radio. Perhaps the radio goons are their main clients?

On the minus side, I have rarely seen such small cubicles and the "girls" are far from young. On the plus side, well, the massage is not cheap (48 E for an hour) but the tip for a hand relief is 20 or at most 30 E - and that includes serious, if partial, undressing and fingering. It is not easy to persuade girls in this place (cubicles separated by a curtain - you hear everything) to agree to a BJ. I managed once (50 E instead of 20-30 E) and that was solely because the provider knew me very well and there was no one else downstairs at the time.

note: title is misleading. ultimately, these women choose prostitution, they are not forced into it.

paris (afp) — hundreds of chinese women have left their children behind in the hope of finding work in paris, only to end up turning to street prostitution, a humanitarian group said thursday.

a report by medecins du monde (doctors of the world) said the women, mostly in their forties and sharing small rooms, are often victims of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and violence, and are highly exposed to sexually-transmitted disease.

the group runs a mobile clinic in immigrant districts in the french capital to reach out to the 500 women, many of whom are from china's northeastern dongbei region which has been hard-hit by unemployment.

their situation is alarming, said melanie quetier, who works at the clinic known as the lotus bus which opened in 2002.

"they have neglected their health for a long time and many discover too late that they are suffering from diabetes, cancer or heart trouble," she said.

women go to the agency's lotus bus for condoms but the chinese-speaking staff tries to convince them to go for testing for sexually-transmitted diseases or consult a gynecologist.

a survey of 93 women by the lotus bus team found that many had paid between 7,000 and 15,000 euros (9,000 to 19,000 dollars) to travel to france after losing their jobs in china.

more than 65 percent of them are over forty and 90 percent said they had left at least one child in china.

"these vulnerable women who do not speak french come up against non-chinese customers who think they can do anything to them," said quetier.

the chinese women are considered "cheap prostitutes", charging as little as five euros for sex, she said.

more than a third of the women questioned said they had been treated for a sexually-transmitted disease and 45 percent said they had not been tested for hiv, according to the report.

housing is a problem for them, with many banding together to rent out small rooms for between 100 and 150 euros a month.

now in her fifties, yanyan arrived two years ago in paris after losing her job in a textile factory and found work as a nanny in a chinese immigrant family that exploited her.

to earn extra money, she turned to prostitution a year ago in the streets in the belleville district of paris, with its lively east asian quarter.

"fortunately, my family doesn't know about this," said yanyan, who has since divorced her chinese husband and hopes to marry in france.

Will be in Paris on the 23rd of this month want to know is there are any Korean bars and restaurants that someone could recomend.

Thanks

My previous visits to Paris were all dry.

I am visiting in 2 weeks and appreciate info on friendly hotels and location for WGs

Last week I went to a MP in Paris run by Moroccon girls.
They are quiet beautifull and the massage was very good.
I think they like to see naked men but don't offer nothing more, not even a HJ.
Price = 50 €/hour.
They are on Place de Rungis 13, inside a small shopping mall.

ANother MP I visited on rue d' Alesia is run by a Chinese mamasan with 2 nice girls. Price = 48 €, Handjob is possible for 20 €.
The name of the place is Alesia Beauté.

C.

Hello gents,

I had thought it would be easier to find fun in Paris but I did discovered it wasn't as hard as it first appeared and certainly without the legal risks we have here in the States. I didn't have time, given circumstances beyond my control, to engage, but I was able to find a couple of sources (all just when I couldn't partake because I had dinner scheduled, bummer). Here's the limited availability I found with a few hours work. I'm sure I could have done much better if I could have navigated the web in french, but I cannot!

1. Found one WG on adultfriendfinder, her web address is [url]www.sensual-rendezvous.com[/url]

2. Found a outdoor WG on Avenue de la Port de Vincennes at Blvd Davout. She was leaning against the rail outside McD's and was clearly working. Very hot long curly haired brunette about 20 ans. This was about 17:00 h

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?q=paris&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&split=0&gl=us&ei=mXycSfzZEKH4NPyJ8JIF&layer=c&cbll=48.847317,2.41109&panoid=sE521J9IEG7HJsPcG0vsrw&cbp=12,328.8760630913159,,0,5&ll=48.847152,2.410812&spn=0.042757,0.132179&z=14&iwloc=addr[/url]

3. Found some very old info on the web that lead me to Ave Foch. Data was accurate! I was approached by no less than three girls from their parked cars. This was on the south side of Foch about half way between the Arch de Triumph and Malakoff. Two I didn't see well, the other was showing some very tremendous cleavage, most of it actually. On the north side I got the nod from a guy in his car, I don't no if the north side is for that or if its just coincidence. I made the mistake of walking along the direction the cars were parked. Stupid! Walk against the parked cars so you can see inside without turning around. Two of the girls had their flashers going as advertisement I presume and they all switched on their interior light as I approached. Prospects looked good, wish I had made that run much earlier, this was about 20:30. Ages? My guess was that they were all over 25, maybe 35. It was dark and I was absolutely out of time so I could say hello or investigate further. Not sure how the deal works, if you take a ride or do the deed in an SUV right there in this very well to do neighborhood.

Approximate location: [url]http://maps.google.com/maps?q=paris&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&split=0&gl=us&ei=mXycSfzZEKH4NPyJ8JIF&ll=48.872577,2.288268&spn=0.010345,0.033045&z=16&iwloc=addr&layer=c&cbll=48.872564,2.288117&panoid=HgoUUlw6BdHnYUXXKiQpvA&cbp=12,243.25520626920522,,0,5[/url]

Why are there so few postings here?

ARG

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Well very slow in Paris but I found a women of Craigslist doing "tantric" massage. 110 Euros for a body rubb, no massage but a decent HJ. She was in her late thirties early forties with big natural tits, decent looking. An extra 2 because I work outside of central Paris. Overall the experience was about 6/10 not sure I'll do it again if I don't get desperate, haha. Trying some Chinese massage parlour next week so I will leave a report.

[QUOTE=Rollo Aff]Well very slow in Paris but I found a women of Craigslist doing "tantric" massage. 110 Euros for a body rubb, no massage but a decent HJ. She was in her late thirties early forties with big natural tits, decent looking. An extra 2 because I work outside of central Paris. Overall the experience was about 6/10 not sure I'll do it again if I don't get desperate, haha. Trying some Chinese massage parlour next week so I will leave a report.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this report.

Please post info on the Chinese Massage parlors.

Has anyone had any luck? PM if you prefer.

You can still find many Chinese SW in the 12e, between the Porte Dorée and the Porte de Saint Mandé along the cimetery, and in the streets between the Boulevard Exterieur and the Peripherique, of course they are not first hand but they are willing to please.
Asking price is 50€ for FS but easily negociable down to 30/35 and 20/30 for CBJ. Time to time you will find a young one but this is not too often.

Second popular place for mid aged Chinese SW is near the Metro Belleville, you can easily spot them as they are or walking slowly or waiting. asking price is a bit less around 30€ FS

Third choice is near the Metro Strasbourg St Denis, close or in the McDonald, same low quality as Belleville, same kind of prices 30/40

Many cheap massages by Chinese are also available in the 13e district by uselly non pro , you can find Tel N° on paper sticked on the wall in from of Paris Store or tang freres avenue d'ivry. Normally the girl will come to your place (more expensive) or will propose you to come to her place (cheaper, between 30 and 50€)

Tried the Chinese MP close to Maison de Radio as mentioned in an earlier report. Very small place with cuibicle feeling so to speak when you get the massage in the basement. Quit good massag for 48 Euros. They had a variety of different massages and seems to be a genuine massage parlour. Asked for a HJ and agreed at 20, but I only had a 50 Euro bill and about 16 in change so I ended up paying 16. Very nice HJ and I could play with her tits. Although you have to be very quit and the women tells you to be that also because of the cubicles. The women are in their 40s but friendly and ok looking. I'll come back but will try some of the other Chinese places.

Well went back to the MP by Maison de Radio cuase its close to where i work and live when in Paris. Not the same experience as last time. Met the owner, an old french guy and his chinese wife. They try to run a legit massage business so my masseuse refused me and HJ. Not the same girl as last time, astually really cute with a nice tight little body. But there was no way is was going to be served, tried begging :-) and showing her alot of cash but she refused.

So to conclude things I guess you have a 50-50 chance on a HJ in that place depending on the girtl and if the boss there. Either way you will get a quit nice relaxing massage.

And if someone knows a MP place close to Boulogne-Billancourt holler my way please.

[QUOTE=Rollo Aff]Well went back to the MP by Maison de Radio cuase its close to where i work and live when in Paris. Not the same experience as last time. Met the owner, an old french guy and his chinese wife. They try to run a legit massage business so my masseuse refused me and HJ. Not the same girl as last time, astually really cute with a nice tight little body. But there was no way is was going to be served, tried begging :-) and showing her alot of cash but she refused.

So to conclude things I guess you have a 50-50 chance on a HJ in that place depending on the girtl and if the boss there. Either way you will get a quit nice relaxing massage.

And if someone knows a MP place close to Boulogne-Billancourt holler my way please.[/QUOTE]
If you speak French, check youppie.net, and you will have lots of info

[QUOTE=Dreams]If you speak French, check youppie.net, and you will have lots of info[/QUOTE]Well don't speak much french (what the f**k am I doing in France? ) but will check it out anyway.

Thanks!

Hi there,

is there no more action in rue St.Denis and at the Boi de Bulogne? Apologies if the question was repeated in this folder again and again. I am spending a few days in Paris and would appreciate a real quickie on the street. Any chance?

Having been in Paris on many occasions, I’ve never really thought about mongering here. This is because I know the city is very expensive, and there are other places that are much better suited. However, last night I felt the need of trying out the city of l’amour. I was just to tired and maybe bored to go out for some drinks and try to hook up with some non pros. (Something I higly recomend here in Paris, as the French ladies are so flirty, and it is a most amusing sport to pull) So, I went first online to vivastreet. There are several ladies there, for quite good rates I must say (living in London) about 150 – 220 Euros seemed to be the price for about an hour. I speak french in a fun accent, so they all laughed at me when I called, and they were all very friendly.

Now, I could have made it easy for me, but in my boredom I thought, fuck it, let’s try the small bars in Pigalle. I couldn’t really find any good information here, apart from the Stay Away warnings. But I’ve read so many warnings before, and it has turned out fine anyway. Mostly these warnings are from Americans. I think it’s because you guys are used to a hell of a better service there? I’m cynical, so anyone who sort of smiles to me, I take it as great service.

Knowing that I might get ripped off, beaten up and maybe fucked my self (literally), I prepared my pockets with different amount of money. 100 in one, 150 in another, 200 etc etc. This is because I can then bargain and blame I don’t have more. With the risk of being mugged and loose it all.

So, I went down to the places by Pigalle, the streets like Rue Frochot etc.

There was a wanna be pimp who wanted to take me to a club or so. I hate pimp that wear track suits. So I thought I should call one on the girls instead. But I went up to one bar.

Inside was a girl and a madame (or whatever they are called, an older lady). They were very friendly and I cut straight to the point. The girl was a 9, real French with damn hot tits. Madame said 350 Euros for champagne and massage and sex and yadida. I was like, shit. It’s not worth it. So I said, ah well. I don’t have that much money, thank you any way. Smiled and was about to leave. Then they asked how much I had. I just wanted to leave, so I said 150. But the girl maybe liked me, she said sure. So. Off to the back. It was a small club, no one else there, just some sofas. And she closed the curtain around a sofa. Felt like being VIP in a club hehe. And then we started to snogg and I licked her, she did bb and we fucked hard and good for about 20 min

Then we smiled, laughed and I went back to the hotel. Yea I know, I could have gotten an hour with a girl from the web site for that price. But hey, I’m not only in the game to have sex. I like to see the fun seedy world hahaha

I have to say, I’m pretty sure you can get fucked (in the bad way) in Pigalle. Just be street smart, know a bit about what you are doing. Don’t trust guys with larger necks then heads. I had a wicked time there, and will go back. Maybe not so lucky then, but fuck it.

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[QUOTE=Mongernerd]Sorry if I offend any French, please feel free to tell me I am wrong.[/QUOTE] I walk past rue Joubert still. In the past I did write somewhat decent test drives. Since then, I have aged. But the women on Joubert have aged even more quickly. Some might be 40-50, but look older. Others are much older. So decrepit! Anna, the Moroccan, is still there (typically in the last cafe on the right as walk West-East, the only one that looks a bit more Arab-like, and one of the younger ones). You'd get ok service from Anna. But no longer worth it for me. She is the only one I recognise. There are some black women (also over 40), and service here in the past had been very bad.

[QUOTE=Viator]Hi there,

is there no more action in rue St.Denis and at the Boi de Bulogne? Apologies if the question was repeated in this folder again and again. I am spending a few days in Paris and would appreciate a real quickie on the street. Any chance?[/QUOTE]In the rue Saint-Denis, you won't find anything but 60 and 70 years old women full of make up.

In the Bois de Boulogne, you won't find anything but tranvestites that steel your money while they are sucking you, and policemen that harrass every guy that walk in the wood during the night.

You won't find anything in the streets of Paris. Actually, you won't find anything in the whole country, except 200/300€ "escort-girls" that announce on internet. France is definitely not a country for people searching for sex.

No, you just have to be careful Ecivel, like in South America.

[QUOTE=Ecivel]France is definitely not a country for people searching for PAID sex.[/QUOTE]Now, thats more accurate.

Hi all,

Let me preface my two questions by first saying that I visited Paris 5 years ago (April 2004) and am well aware that the street scene there is pretty awful.

1. Due to the global recession have you seen either an increase in number, variety or quality of streetwalkers ?

2. Which are the best areas to find very mature Algerian or Moroccan ladies ?

Thanks muchly.

[QUOTE=Rollo Aff]Well went back to the MP by Maison de Radio cuase its close to where I work and live when in Paris. Not the same experience as last time. Met the owner, an old french guy and his Chinese wife. They try to run a legit massage business so my masseuse refused me and HJ. Not the same girl as last time, astually really cute with a nice tight little body. But there was no way is was going to be served, tried begging and showing her alot of cash but she refused.

So to conclude things I guess you have a 50-50 chance on a HJ in that place depending on the girtl and if the boss there. Either way you will get a quit nice relaxing massage.

And if someone knows a MP place close to Boulogne-Billancourt holler my way please.[/QUOTE]Back again to the same place last week. This being my 4th time there. Having 2 good HJ and 1 big NO I can't be bothered going somewhere else since its so close to where I work. Anyway, got asked for a "Massage relaxion" and up shows the girl who refused me! Oh my bad luck strikes again. Or so I think. She starts giving me a back massage working her way down to my legs and butt touching my balls and rubbing my inner thigh. I turn over and ask her if she can provide a HJ. Again she refuses. I ask nicely again though always with a smile. I say in my limited french that all her co-workers give HJ. She looks a little bit shocked and asks me how many times I have been there: I say its my 4th time and that I've gotten HJs by 2 other girls. This seems to change her mind alot! She then starts rubbing my balls with some oil and then on to the dick. NICE! Good technique also working on the balls and ass at the same time. She then all of a sudden starts DFK me! Love it. I also pull out both her tits and betwen the kissing I start sucking on them. This is all becoming to much for my so I shoot my load and she cleans me up with a wet towel she picks up and continues the massage.

When the time is up I put on my clothes and give her an 20. She then gives me long DFK again. Think she likes me

Overall a very good experience and I am going to try to get some more out of this girl. Maybe she can work some extra time after closing hours at my hotel.

For what it's worth.

Rue Desnouettes in the 15th Arrondissement, about 100 metres from rue de Vaugirard. Just opposite of the Franprix shop.

Chinese massage parlour. 45 euros for a massage. 20 extra for the HJ.

That's the best I have found in Paris.

Have fun!

Hello all,

My apologies for bringing this up again but I really would appreciate your help.

A while back I returned from a 4 week trip to Brazil and was very disappointed with the scene there. I went there thinking that I would find plenty of mature, white and plump women either on the streets or in cheap brothels. Nothing really. Almost all were "pro-types", on the slender side and with an average age of 25. I should have listened to most here who advised me to go to Paris (Arab neighborhoods) or Northern Africa.

So my question again:

In order to find mature and plump Algerian or Moroccan ladies would I do best to visit the Barbes section of Paris? Is this area (the 18th Arondissement) still predominantly the 'North Africa neighbourhood' of the city? Can I still find mature Algerian and Moroccan ladies on the Barbes Boulevard?

Or would I do best to simply head to Algeria and Morocco themselves?

Note to member 'Algeria for Ever': if you are also reading this I'd greatly appreciate your thoughts since you provided great information a long while back. Btw, if anyone would like information on Belo Horizonte (Brazil) feel free to PM since that is where I spent a whole month.

Thanks

I don't agree with all the bad reports.

If you can read French, just google ESCORT PARIS, there are plenty of sites. For example, I used this one.

[url]http://www.escort-rendez-vous.com/home.php[/url]

Of course there are the stupid 200/300 or more euros Eastern Europe girls, but hey this is a free market, and you can find some good fares much cheaper. I found a Brazilian girl near where I live. She does FS (once only) for 100 euros. Young in her 20s with enormous tits, thin with a nice ass. But maybe too professional (not really a GFE experience, you can feel she is relieved when you're finished, at least with me.) its an incall, you don't have to pay for the hotel. Very good deal. I have seen a black girl advertising with AF for 150 euros/hour, you go her place, no hotel. Looks a good deal as well.

Don't want to give the names, these are good deals, I don't want them to be overbooked and increase their fare! But I'm sure you will find something good for you.

Rue de la rochefoucauld (9eme)

I've been there with a (male) friend, no girls with us. Only 30 euros to get into, on a Friday afternoon. Food and drinks included.

It was early. Now some couples were inside, but a lot of men alone.

People drink and wait. Couples start at the bar. And suddenly a couple goes downstairs or go in a private room, and hell breaks loose.

The couple start to makes out, then all the lone men start to gather around. The ratio was like around 10 guys for each girl. (I guess it went down as more couples arrived later as we were really early in the afternoon like 5-6pm). Really like in a porn movie, it was like an orgy/ gang-bang.

The women I've seen were mostly in their 40s or 50s, I saw only a younger one in her 20s-30s. I'd say they were classy and it looked like a classy place (educated people for clients, no students, hippies and such.)

It was my first time in such a place, and I was expecting to be very excited, but there were much more guys than I expected, which were really each fighting and pushing each other to get some of the action. Which was turning me off. Even though I managed in the end to get a BJ even I didn't finish then, but after didn't get the chance / will to fight for more.

If you don't mind watching and being watched, and ready to f ck not so young or not so good looking MILFs for cheap, this is a cheap deal for sure.

You'd better get inside with someone who knows the place before, and be sure to be well dressed too.

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I am very disappointed that no one has any information on Barbes Boulevard and the Algerian/Morrocan ladies of Paris.

Please folks, anything you might know would be appreciated.

Thanks

Just a small update on the Chinese SW in Paris

Mainly there are 3 areas

Most active is the 12 district.
You can find during day time from 10.00am till dark many mature Chinese ladies working in the following streets , boulevard Soult, rue du general archinard, bd de la guyane, rue de la nouvelle caledonie, rue edouard lartet, avenue emile laurent.
The ladies are not young but some are providing descend service, they will ask for 50 euros FS in your car or at a hotel but this is easily negociable , CBJ is normally 30 euros . Usually they are not very pretty and young but time to time you can be lucky with some much younger.

Second area is Belleville
Many cheaper mature Chinese ladies can be found at the metro Belleville in front of the metro and in front of Paris Store shop. normally there is a lot of people always in this busy area but they are easy to spot as they are waiting and look at you if you look at them. prices are in the 30 euros range. they are using their own room so you can save the hotel bill or they are using cheap hotel near by but do not expect a five star service!

Third area is Strasbourg Saint Denis
Here also you will find during the day and sometime at night mature Chinese women standing or walking arount the area , some can be found in the Mc Donald, same poor quality as the other places. same prices as in the 12e. they are using hotel close by or at few metro station away, have some metro ticket available with you.

One interesting thing to try is the small adverts on the walls in the 13e district (Chinatown) , in front of Paris Store or Tang Freres avenue d'Ivry, most are written in Chinese but the word massage is written on most of them, worth a try, you can be lucky. normally service is provided by younger Asian girls but it is more expensive (100 euros negociable to 80) these are basically AAMP.
I will recommend not to have them come to your apartment or hotel for the first trial. The advantage going to their place is that if you do not like the girl you do not have to accept the deal!

Now also in Paris you can find many Asian or Thai Massage Salon or relaxation center but be carefull as most of them will provide at best HJ only
and poor massage for a high price.

Denis

[QUOTE=Oceanblue]I am very disappointed that no one has any information on Barbes Boulevard and the Algerian/Morrocan ladies of Paris.

Please folks, anything you might know would be appreciated.

Thanks[/QUOTE]
Take a train ticket to Brussels, it's around 100 minutes from Paris by the train Thalys ( [url]www.thalys.com[/url]) and contact
[url]http://www.mellex.be[/url]
or
[url]http://www.euro-vip.com/home.php[/url]
(they should belong to the same owner).

In France, I read about this lady Kalista (half Maroccan, half Vietnamese) ( [url]http://www.escortway.com/escort-871.html[/url] ) but I've never met her and don't know if she still works

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]Take a train ticket to Brussels, it's around 100 minutes from Paris by the train Thalys ( [url]www.thalys.com[/url]) and contact
[url]http://www.mellex.be[/url]
or
[url]http://www.euro-vip.com/home.php[/url]
(they should belong to the same owner).

In France, I read about this lady Kalista (half Maroccan, half Vietnamese) ( [url]http://www.escortway.com/escort-871.html[/url] ) but I've never met her and don't know if she still works[/QUOTE]Thank you, Bobo.

But the thing is that I only like low-end, cheap and somewhat sleazy Arab ladies. I like them as 'natural' and 'amateur' as possible if you know what I mean. And some chubbiness with a big butt is a MUST for me. She can be any age but I do prefer very mature.

I once read that Mauritania is one of the few countries where being chubby (as a lady) is highly prized. It's considered very attractive there. Oprah Winfrey, the talk show host once had a guest from Mauritania who said that even having stretch mark and cellulite is considered erotic! Everyone in the audience laughed of course but she was serious. Interestingly, the males there are expected to be thin. Works for me since I'm a slender guy.

However, it's an impoverished (though safe) country without much of an infrastructure (although things are starting to change). The fact that I speak neither French nor Arabic is another problem.

I have to decide on a destination within 3 weeks and I have no idea yet if it should be Paris, Morocco, Algeria (with visa) or someplace else. (I need help, folks!)

Hello,

I will visit Paris from 12th to 16th of June and I'm searching for a typical french girl (french nationality) in upper class with good body and long legs. Which wears lingery like fully fashiones nylons and loves traditional lingery.

I know this is very exclusevely but maybe someone can give me a hint were I can find such "high class" girls (if they are a little mature no problem).

Thanks,

Sarao

[QUOTE=Denis]Just a small update on the Chinese SW in Paris
Mainly there are 3 areas[/QUOTE]I visited these 3 areas this week, during the day and in the late evening.

[QUOTE=Denis]Most active is the 12 district.
.............., boulevard Soult, rue du general archinard, bd de la guyane, rue de la nouvelle caledonie, rue edouard lartet, avenue emile laurent.[/QUOTE]Unfortunatedly, I cannot confirm this.

When I was there walking around ( 2 p.m.), I discovered only 3 chinese women in their 40ties.

Costs are: 50 Euro, but I did not book.

[QUOTE=Denis]Second area is Belleville

Many cheaper mature Chinese ladies can be found at the metro Belleville in front of the metro and in front of Paris Store shop. normally there is a lot of people always in this busy area but they are easy to spot as they are waiting and look at you if you look at them. prices are in the 30 euros range. they are using their own room so you can save the hotel bill or they are using cheap hotel near by but do not expect a five star service![/QUOTE]This I can confirm absolutedly, I was fascinated.

I chose one very good looking and polite hobby-girl and followed her to a flat in an ugly and dirty building near to metro belleville.

60 Euro, everything covered, but she looked so fantastic, that I did not want to forgo this beeing-together. Kissing and fucking like with a girlfriend, unbelievable, but true. She ist in her late 30ties, but slim and tall, i think 172, long black hair and dressed like a modern wife of an successful guy.

She stood there together with others, only because of this it was possible for me to spot her out.

I counted more than 25 girls in the neigbourhood of that metro stop, profis and non-profis.

[QUOTE=Denis]Third area is Strasbourg Saint Denis.

Here also you will find during the day and sometime at night mature Chinese women standing or walking arount the area , some can be found in the Mc Donald, same poor quality as the other places. same prices as in the 12e. they are using hotel close by or at few metro station away, have some metro ticket available with you.
Denis[/QUOTE]This, too, I can confirm, I saw approximatedly 20 women standing and walking from 10. Am to 5 pm Costs: 50 Euro.

Rue saint denis, rue blondel etc:

At 12. P. M 20 black young african girls, 50 Euro, at the stairs, where ever that is. I don't felt invited.

Bd. Strasbourg, corner Bd. Saint-denis, up to gare de l'est:

7-8 girls, looking lie balkan or former ussr standing there, difficult to spot out, because looking like "normal girls".

Very intesting.

Does anybody know places, where to meet especially black girls during the day?

[QUOTE=Halb Blut]I visited these 3 areas this week, during the day and in the late evening.

Unfortunatedly, I cannot confirm this.

When I was there walking around (2 pm ), I discovered only 3 Chinese women in their 40ties.

Costs are: 50 Euro, but I did not book.

This I can confirm absolutedly, I was fascinated.

I chose one very good looking and polite hobby-girl and followed her to a flat in an ugly and dirty building near to metro belleville.

60 Euro, everything covered, but she looked so fantastic, that I did not want to forgo this beeing-together. Kissing and fucking like with a girlfriend, unbelievable, but true. She ist in her late 30ties, but slim and tall, I think 172, long black hair and dressed like a modern wife of an successful guy.

She stood there together with others, only because of this it was possible for me to spot her out.

I counted more than 25 girls in the neigbourhood of that metro stop, profis and non-profis.

This, too, I can confirm, I saw approximatedly 20 women standing and walking from 10. Am to 5 pm Costs: 50 Euro.

Rue saint denis, rue blondel etc:

At 12. P. M 20 black young african girls, 50 Euro, at the stairs, where ever that is. I don't felt invited.

Bd. Strasbourg, corner Bd. Saint-denis, up to gare de l'est:

7-8 girls, looking lie balkan or former ussr standing there, difficult to spot out, because looking like "normal girls".

Very intesting.

Does anybody know places, where to meet especially black girls during the day? [/QUOTE]Thanks for a good report confirming the places, just wish they where closer to my place in Paris. I am in Boulogne and the 16th. So if anybody got any good reports about MPs, SW or escorts in those areas I would be very happy

Can anyone recommend an escort in Paris that doesn't charge ridiculous prices?

I am thinking about doing this english/african girl called Zahara Smith but I'm not sure. Shes on a 175Euro/hour rate and although its within my budget I still think its too much. Must be my time in asia that makes me looking for cheaper sex haha.

Hello to all,

I am in the Airport Area for a few weeks. Can anyone give me some Information about a nice girl (escort) who will visit my nice appartment hotel?

Thanks in advance

Sorry for the late answer, I just discovered this fantastc website and so your question.

If you like natural arabics girl, go to their countries, you will find plenty of beauties for ridiculous prices compared to this bloody France (am moroccan living in france). Especially morocco: f you like great food, beautiful women, and low prices, you just have to go the pubs and clubs around the touristic areas (agadir, marrakech, casablanca, .) and you will find plenty plenty plenty of girls. Most of them are normal, but you will sure meet some mazing faces and bodies. For just 100 euros, you can take it for the whole night. As I speak arabic a little bit, sometimes you can down the rate to.50 euros!

Soon I will report many experiences in Agadir, Marrakech and Casa.

In Paris, you will mainly find only oldies, travesties, and over rated escort as cold as beer.

If you get lucky, sometimes:

1/ there is few arabic girls hangin in bar along Avenue des champs elysées. You can notice them by their way to look all around them. They are often limit fat. Not my taste.

2/ there is some africans workin in their own van. It's near Bois de Vincennes. It's a little bit dirty, but some african princess are there, rare

Am from Paris, I will report you new places, if I find it. Bloody France.

Ps: sorry for the my english.

[QUOTE=Oceanblue]Thank you, Bobo.

....I have to decide on a destination within 3 weeks and I have no idea yet if it should be Paris, Morocco, Algeria (with visa) or someplace else. (I need help, folks!)[/QUOTE]

Hi Mugirawa!

Thank you. Yes, I have decided on Casablanca. The weather is nice and sunny and I am sure the people are much friendlier!

[QUOTE=Mugiwara Luffy]Sorry for the late answer. If you like natural arabics girl, go to their countries, you will find plenty of beauties for ridiculous prices compared to this bloody France (am moroccan living in france). Especially morocco: f you like great food, beautiful women, and low prices, you just have to go the pubs and clubs around the touristic areas (agadir, marrakech, casablanca, .) and you will find plenty plenty plenty of girls. Most of them are normal, but you will sure meet some mazing faces and bodies.[/quote]

But the problem I suppose is that the majority of them are younger (in their 20's). I am ONLY interested in middle-aged, chubby ladies (from ages 40 to 55 to 60 even)

Can you tell me if Casablanca has a red light district in the old medina similar to the ones in Tunis and Sousse ? Or perhaps a 'van scene' in another part of Casa like they have in Paris ?

The reason I ask is that the women who work there tend to be older and heavier since they can't compete with the younger girls who work at the clubs, restaurants and hotels that most men seem to prefer.

Thanks my friend.

[QUOTE=Robinpost]For what it's worth.

Rue Desnouettes in the 15th Arrondissement, about 100 metres from rue de Vaugirard. Just opposite of the Franprix shop.

Chinese massage parlour. 45 euros for a massage. 20 extra for the HJ.

That's the best I have found in Paris.

Have fun![/QUOTE]

Thank you for this location reference! With prices in Paris, I was getting worried I might not see any action during my visit to the city next week (it's over double prices in my home city). This place happens to be a 10 minute walk from my hotel. Based on cost, I won't be expecting much in terms of service but it will be nice to unwind after a day of sightseeing. Of course, it might be tough to get some alone time away from my traveling companion and local friends!

I'll post a review of the place if I end up going.

HT

Hello all,

I have booked a trip to Paris from August 4th till August 11th and would like to spend some time enjoying my favorite fetish: playing the amateur hooker and f*cking as many guys as possible. In the last few years I spend some nights in the Pluriel club and I liked it a lot. This time I want to add "La Cheminée" to my list of places of enjoyment.

I'm sure there are places in Paris I don't know of that are even more suitable for enjoying my fetishes. Can anyone supply some tips?

Send me a PM if you have tips or like to know my mail address and website.

Debby

Hello all,

I have booked a trip to Paris from August 4th till August 11th and would like to spend some time enjoying my favorite fetish: playing the amateur hooker and f*cking as many guys as possible. In the last few years I spend some nights in the Pluriel club and I liked it a lot. This time I want to add "La Cheminée" to my list of places of enjoyment.

I'm sure there are places in Paris I don't know of that are even more suitable for enjoying my fetishes. Can anyone supply some tips?

Send me a PM if you have tips or like to know my mail address and website.

Debby

Hello all,

I have booked a trip to Paris from August 4th till August 11th and would like to spend some time enjoying my favorite fetish: playing the amateur hooker and f*cking as many guys as possible. In the last few years I spend some nights in the Pluriel club and I liked it a lot. This time I want to add "La Cheminée" to my list of places of enjoyment.

I'm sure there are places in Paris I don't know of that are even more suitable for enjoying my fetishes. Can anyone supply some tips?

Send me a PM if you have tips or like to know my mail address and website.

Debby

[QUOTE=Dutch Debby]Hello all,

I have booked a trip to Paris from August 4th till August 11th and would like to spend some time enjoying my favorite fetish: playing the amateur hooker and f*cking as many guys as possible. In the last few years I spend some nights in the Pluriel club and I liked it a lot. This time I want to add "La Cheminée" to my list of places of enjoyment.

I'm sure there are places in Paris I don't know of that are even more suitable for enjoying my fetishes. Can anyone supply some tips?

Send me a PM if you have tips or like to know my mail address and website.

Debby[/QUOTE]
I sent you a PM but as I'm not sure that you as a new member can receive it, I'm posting the same info here.

There are probably more than 30 clubs in the Paris vicinity. I'm pretty sure that there's a link posted somewhere back in the Paris thread or you can google ("clubs échangistes" in French).

I have been to Au Pluriel, La Cheminee, La Chandelle and Quai 17. All are good but don't always allow single men if that's what you're looking for, so check their websites. In general, weekends are couples only at most clubs so keep that in mind. Another suggestion in France is to check out Cap D'Agde, a nudist town, which has a lot of action going down on the beaches in the early evening, in the night clubs and in leased hotel rooms and bungalows.

If you're looking to f*ck as many men as you can, then I suggest that you check out Germany, right in your back yard. Lots of gangbangs that you'd be welcome to participate in, awesome swinger clubs that also allow in single men most of the time (look through the reports on Beverly, but there are many others) and partytreff and FKK clubs many of which will let you fulfill your fantasy. You'll just need to contact them before hand. The wife of one of our esteemed members had a similar fantasy, accompanied him a few years ago to one of the big Frankfurt area FKK clubs, and has since become one of the regular working girls at that club. Who knows maybe your fantasy will turn into a new profession for you? Check out the German FKK Clubs and German Partytreff threads on this forum for lots of info.

Whatever you do, please post on your experiences here. It's always refreshing to get a woman's point of view here and I'm sure that many forum members would very much appreciate your reports.

I was watching tennis at Roland Garros for a week a few weeks ago. For action, I was walking distance to the Strasbourg/St Denis station. This year was the best in years with the Cihinese being the most prominent. There were an assortment of others that were probably North Africans, Blacks and? . Now, 90% are category 5 and under. Be patient, and you will find a 6 or 7. Only dealt with the Chinese girls, did not bargarin hard & pay 30/40Euros. I used my hotel and did not have to pay the room surcharge. Most girls were passive but compliant, but because they became lubricated, I knew they enjoy the action. Remember, they are under alot of tension, not only from law enforcement but because most are reluctantly doing the trade. Still, if you can calm the situation and create some chemistry, you can have some fun for a resonable price and they might forget to look at the clock. It's not Bangkok or Buenos Aires, it's just to bring your pick down.

well, according to the new movie "taken", in which liam neeson single-handedly kills about 25 heavily-armed with machine guns albanian mafiosi, another dozen frenchies, and a big fat sheik and another dozen of his armed with machine guns security guys, there are a whole bunch of hot street wh0res being peddled out in the open by the albanian mafia on the street in port du clichy that charge 40 euros for standard service. then in their albanian mafia headquarters on the rue de paradise, a bunch of albanian mafia guys named marco have a big house full of super hot young tourist girls that their spotters snatch right in front of the airport as the girls simply try to catch a taxi into the city. the girls are all given super hard drugs, handcuffed to filthy beds, and then they are repeatedly [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]-fucked to death within 4 days, or if they are very lucky, they are taken out to a construction site where they are given more super hard drugs and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]-fucked as prostitute slaves 20 to 40 times a day by the construction workers.

unless they are really super hot 17 year old virgins, then they are drugged and sold to some rich parisian businessman, who then drugs them some more and auctions them off for half a million euros to exclusive discreet clientele including very fat old arab millionaire sheiks to be [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]-fucked, given more hard drugs, and kept as sex slaves until they get tired of them and then they are beheaded.

of course, all of this is happening with the complete blessings of the french security police, who get bribed at every level all the way up to the top to keep quiet about it, because as long as the cops get their cut, they don't care what happens in their beautiful country. thank god for the french police, typical dishonest assholes that take bribes, and don't do shit while pretending they are protecting the public, but instead protect the criminals.

any albanian mafia or paris wh0re customers confirm this, sounds really cool.

[quote=bez bezarra]well, according to the new movie "taken", in which liam neeson single-handedly kills about 25 albanian mafiosi, another dozen frenchies, and a big fat sheik and another dozen of his security guys, there are a bunch of hot street wh0res being peddled by the albanian mafia on the street in port du clichy, then in their headquarters on the rue de paradise, they have a big house full of super hot young tourist girls that they snatch right in front of the airport as the girls catch their taxis into the city. the girls are all given super hard drugs, handcuffed to filthy beds, and then they are repeatedly [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]-fucked to death within 4 days, or if they are very lucky, they are taken out to a construction site where they are given super hard drugs and fucked as prostitute slaves 20 to 40 times a day by the construction workers.

unless they are 17 year old virgins, then they are sold to some rich parisians, and auctioned off for half a million euros to very fat old arab millionaire sheiks to be fucked, given more hard drugs, and kept as sex slaves until they are beheaded.

of course, all of this is happening with the blessing of the french police, who get paid to keep quiet about it, because as long as they get their cut, they don't care what happens in their beautiful country. thank god for the french police, typical dishonest assholes that take bribes, and don't do shit while pretending they are protecting the public, but instead protect the criminals.[/quote]you know its all fictional right? :-)

[quote=bez bezarra]well, according to the new movie "taken",[...] wh0res being peddled out in the open by the albanian mafia on the street in port du clichy that charge 40 euros for standard service. then in their albanian mafia headquarters on the rue de paradise, [...][/quote]hi!

i am french. i live in paris, near rue de paradis (50m away...). there has never been any prostitutes working in that street. this is strictly fictionnal. nevertheless, the nearby "boulevard de strasbourg" and the "boulevard saint denis", is an area know as ssd (strasbourg saint denis which is the name of the nearby tube station). in these streets you can actualy find prostitutes walking on the pavement. the prostitutes here are chineese and east-europeans (romanian and bulagarian girls). prices are high (minimun 60 eur for a quicky and more likely 80 eur + hotel 30/40 eur) and service is low.

i know one romanian girl (nickname "mycose-entre-les-seins") who lives in rue de paradis. she only lives in there. but she takes customers to hotels, not to her place. so may be there is some remote truth about all this, although you wont be able to pay for sex in that street.

porte de clichy is a place where there has been some women working in the sex trade, in the past. they were africans (english speaking girls) and also russian and east-european girls. so, it is based on a true fact that was true a long time ago. you might be able to find african prostitutes at porte de clichy these days. there are also chineese girls at place de clichy (cheap 30/40 eur + hotel 20/30 eur for a quicky). usualy they are bad looking and over 40yo.

about police corruption in france: the facts shown in the film "taken" are hoaxes. the police is not paid by the east-european mafia to allow prostitution. this is not true. nevertheless, our police is not 100% clean. the police close their eyes on activities going on in pigale: tourists beeing swindeled in peep show bars. these bars lure tourists inside. they say that you will be able to pay for sex inside. what will happen if you get inside is that you will be charged 500 eur or 1000 eur for one of a few bottles of champagne (or limonade with lemon) and you will get nothing. you will be forced to pay by bouncers. if you don't pay, god will be the only one who can help you. this has been going on for about 30 years. the police has never done anything about it. it has been reported on tv. may be the french police thinks that it is a french entertainment for foreign tourists. so beware!

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[QUOTE=Chinagirl Lover]

About Police corruption in France, our Police is not 100% clean.
The Police close their eyes tourists being swindled for 500 EUR or 1000 EUR for champagne.
This has been going on for about 30 years.
The Police has never done anything about it.

[/QUOTE]

You can be 100% sure, that the cops get their cut to allow tourists to get robbed and or beaten, and ANY other organized scams and crimes, such as escort services, most of the drug dealing, stolen cars, extortions, gambling, protection rackets, loan sharking, whatever criminal activities except for terrorism and murders, and small crimes by "un"-organized crooks. In fact, its much easier for cops to pretend they are doing their job, when they only have to go after shoplifters and muggers, and then they get supported by the media when they go after armed robbers and murderers.

Like the French Deputy of Internal Security in the movie said, his salary is "X", and his expenses is "Y", and how the difference is made up, is NOT his concern, as long as it does not affect him.

That is the real part of the movie.

[QUOTE=Chinagirl Lover]Hi!

I am French. I live in Paris, near Rue de Paradis (50m away...). There has never been any prostitutes working in that street. This is strictly fictionnal. Nevertheless, the nearby "Boulevard de Strasbourg" and the "Boulevard Saint denis", is an area know as SSD (Strasbourg Saint Denis which is the name of the nearby tube station). In these streets you can actualy find prostitutes walking on the pavement. The prostitutes here are Chineese and East-Europeans (Romanian and Bulagarian girls). Prices are high (minimun 60 EUR for a quicky and more likely 80 EUR + hotel 30/40 EUR) and service is low.

[/QUOTE]

The quarter around Rue de Paradis is my favourite, I once lived there. But I am always wondering if someone can have sex with those crappy old chinese prostitute who walk around SSD, even if he is a fun of chinese girl.

I believe french policemen are clean, at least much cleaner than the almost all other nation's police.

[QUOTE=West By Sun]

I believe policemen are clean.

[/QUOTE]

There's good and bad in EVERY category.

If you think there's no bad police, then you're fooling yourself. Its as naive as thinking there isn't organized crime infiltrated throughout society at almost every level.

When a group has power, they're main purpose is to keep it, whether its political, or authority. Bending the rules to benefit themselves is nothing new.

What is ethical or moral about defense companies discreetly influencing politicians and the media that we need to have wars, so they can get contracts worth billions to sell arms to be used to murder civilians? Nothing at all, but its been happening forever and will always continue. The rich get richer, and the poor die as slaves.

History repeats itself, oldest lesson in life.

Politicians and cops take bribes, lesson number 2.

All women are wh0res, lesson number 3.

End of lesson.

[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]

End of lesson.

[/QUOTE]

Thank you for your politico historic lesson, I used to be an auditor of this kind of discussion in my Paris 8 age, but I did not say all french policemen are clean.

I still believe french police is generally politer, friendlier and cleaner than some other nation's police where corruption or racial conflict or poverty is serious. You can stay in US or China or some latin american and african countries. You will actually understand what I mean.

[QUOTE=West By Sun]Thank you for your politico historic lesson, I used to be an auditor of this kind of discussion in my Paris 8 age, but I did not say all french policemen are clean.

I still believe french police is generally politer, friendlier and cleaner than some other nation's police where corruption or racial conflict or poverty is serious. You can stay in US or China or some latin american and african countries. You will actually understand what I mean.[/QUOTE]Last year I "lost" my wallet in the Paris Metro (beware of pickpockets) and had to make a police declaration for my insurance. They were really friendly and typed my declaration on an ancient PC with one finger watching a football match and smoking cigarettes in the meantime. Exactly like in the movies :)

My advise: when using the Metro take good care of your wallet or take a taxi; the are a lot cheaper than taxi's in Amsterdam!

Debby

Hi Denis,

I wonder if you have experience with these Chinese woman who post an add on the lampposts and walls of buildings.

Do they come for a regular massage. A massage plus or just come for paid sex.

Am wondering what to expect.

Thanks for your reply

[QUOTE=Denis]Just a small update on the Chinese SW in Paris

One interesting thing to try is the small adverts on the walls in the 13e district (Chinatown) , in front of Paris Store or Tang Freres avenue d'Ivry, most are written in Chinese but the word massage is written on most of them, worth a try, you can be lucky. normally service is provided by younger Asian girls but it is more expensive (100 euros negociable to 80) these are basically AAMP.

I will recommend not to have them come to your apartment or hotel for the first trial. The advantage going to their place is that if you do not like the girl you do not have to accept the deal!

Denis[/QUOTE]These woman from these adds .. do they perform a standard massage .. a massage plus or is it basically "hanky panky" and is the massage a camouflage ?

Called a lady and she opted for 50 euro's, had to pick her up from the metro station.

Do you have experience?

[QUOTE=Kessler69]These woman from these adds .. do they perform a standard massage .. a massage plus or is it basically "hanky panky" and is the massage a camouflage ?

Called a lady and she opted for 50 euro's, had to pick her up from the metro station.

Do you have experience?[/QUOTE]

You can expect massage + FS or CBJ , it really depends , but normally sex is guaranted, 50€ should give you FS for sure.
It happen to me that I had to pick them from metro station as well.
good luck and post your experience.
Most of them do speak very good French,

[QUOTE=Denis]You can expect massage + FS or CBJ , it really depends , but normally sex is guaranted, 50€ should give you FS for sure.

It happen to me that I had to pick them from metro station as well.

good luck and post your experience.

Most of them do speak very good French,[/QUOTE]The problem is I don't, hahaha. But stupid of me. I shouldnt have cancelled the appointment. Timing was not so convenient. So will give it a try again and will let you know.

But how to make sure she not only gives you a massage. And wants extra money for the FS. Am a starter as you can see.

She came into my hotel and as I was very tired, I immediately sent her to the bethroom, she began caress me and kiss as soon as she came out of the bathroom, my friend is already ready and we put on the condom, the process was spontaneous. Very tender, I was lucky with her, we tried a pair of positions and we finished, she tried to give massage to me, but so far I don’t like this, we were just lying, her tits were very sensitive, and touching them was a great pleasure, for the second round I was not ready so we finished. In general I like the girl but nothing exceptional.

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I went to this place just over a week ago during a vacation in Paris. It was difficult to get away from friends, but I managed to squeeze an hour to myself to "go for a walk".

"Salon Chun Mei - Centre De Relaxation", located at 35 rue Duranton in the 15th arrondissemont (75015 PARIS), looks like any normal storefront and was strangely located next door to a school or children's playground (it was fenced and I couldn't see anything but I could hear dozens of children playing). Opening at 10am (closing at 9pm) it's about a 5 minute walk from Metro Boucicaut on Line 8. There were three Asian women sitting on a couch waiting for clients. One of the women got up to greet me, took my 40 EUR for an hour massage and took me downstairs to their massage rooms.

We started out with some light conversation (our names, where we were from, etc...). Sophie turns out to be from the Cambodian border with Vietnam (i.e., not really Chinese). I put her age at about mid-30s and average looking. By the way, Sophie does not speak a word of English so it will be difficult to talk with her if you don't speak French. I don't think any of the women speak English at this place.

The massage itself was just what I needed. I had gone here after 4 days of walking (sunup to sundown) all over the city and my body was more tense than the cables of the the Golden Gate bridge. Starting on my stomach, her massage skills were average, displaying no real talent, but her light touch did help me unwind sufficiently that all my tension melted away. After about 30 minutes she asked that I flip and starts to gently caress my chest for a couple of minutes before slowly moving south. At that point she plays with my member and asked me "et la aussi monsieur?" (and here as well sir?). Of course, I answered her yes.

At that point, the conversation turned to money where she asked what her tip would be (business first). I started low at 20 EUR where she acted offended. I increased to 30 and she countered with 50 telling me that it also gave me access to her breasts. I was told that the cost for the HJ should be 30 EUR but since my French isn't great I decided not to argue with her and accepted her offer (if you can argue well in French, then you might be able to go as low as 20 EUR for just the HJ citing the Internet as the reference - even better to establish price before the massage starts). I was a little disappointed in that she looked well proportioned but the push-up bra had hid her sagging breasts. I was able to suckle them while she stroked (slowly but without passion) and after about 10 minutes I was finished. All in all, just an average job. Afterwards, I asked to take a shower and she escorted me to their bathroom (they have a nice strong and clean shower). After showering, she helped me to dress as they do in massage parlours in Asia, insisting on helping with everything.

From what I could gather, there are several of these small Chinese massage places throughout Paris (in each arrondissement). I had found this place on Youppie (.net) which contains an abundance of well written reviews about Paris' entire sex scene (from regular to the freaky). If you can read French, I highly recommend that you check it for reviews/references in the areas where you visit Paris. If you can't speak French, then stick to places near the tourist spots where you'll likely have more luck. The 15th arrondissement where I went is a residential area. Regardless, don't be dissuaded as you can easily get your point across with hand gestures and your money will speak for you.

Would I repeat? Yes, but only for a half hour and just the HJ (when I "need" a quickie). A few years back I found another place that was more daring and offered a whole range of services (including prostate massage). It was more a brothel than massage parlour. It was also three times more expensive... The cost for P4P in Paris is just too expensive for what I'm used to paying.

Looks - 3/5 (average)
Breasts - 2/5 (sagging B-cups)
Personality - 4/5 (enjoys conversation and put me at ease)
Massage Skill - 3/5 (very light touch without any passion)
Price - 2/5 (40 EUR massage - normal price, 50 EUR HJ - over priced)

Au revoir,
HT

[QUOTE=Denis]You can expect massage + FS or CBJ , it really depends , but normally sex is guaranted, 50€ should give you FS for sure.

It happen to me that I had to pick them from metro station as well.

good luck and post your experience.

Most of them do speak very good French,[/QUOTE]Today I called the lady. Made an appointment in 45 minutes of time. I would pick her up from the metro station.

At the right time two Chinese ladies arrived. One (the mamasan) and another girl. Slightly younger. I would say end 20 beginning 30. She only arrived in Paris two weeks ago. No english or french.

I escorted them to my apartment. The mamasan stayed in the living room and went with the younger one to the bedroom for the massage.

Started with the back massage. During this massage she took her dress off. Nice lingerie.

When flipping over for the front part she started to play with my little fellow and came few minutes later haha. Then some caressing. After which I started to massage and finger her. When I wanted to started to fuck she said no. And also indicating time was over. But only 35 minutes had been passed. She got up and walked to the mamasan and came back. (clearly she got her instruction what to do.)

She started CBJ. And then went on her back invited to fuck her. Did her in several positions and finished off with 10 minutes left. She moved to the shower. Paid the mamasan 50 euro and tipped the girl 10. And they seemed quite happy. Mamasan was quite nice in fact.

The girl was for sure a beginner. Massage was soso. Not bad but not real professional. And is indeed only to start. Hanky panky is the mean goal. Would do it again? I reckon yes.

...for a factual and useful report. It's nice to have a few posters who do not indulge in general stereotypes and statements about police, corruption etc... which, of course, are written by guys who did not even visit the place...
It's like if i was going on the US board and write about the NYPD... because iIsae a serie on how bad they are..

[QUOTE=Dreams]...for a factual and useful report. It's nice to have a few posters who do not indulge in general stereotypes and statements about police, corruption etc... which, of course, are written by guys who did not even visit the place...
It's like if i was going on the US board and write about the NYPD... because iIsae a serie on how bad they are..[/QUOTE]Fully agree althoigh I think Horny Toad totally overpaid his HJ. If we all agree upon what to pay for certain services then the sex wouldnt be so god damn expensive in this city.

[QUOTE=Kessler69]Today I called the lady. Made an appointment in 45 minutes of time. I would pick her up from the metro station.

At the right time two Chinese ladies arrived. One (the mamasan) and another girl. Slightly younger. I would say end 20 beginning 30. She only arrived in Paris two weeks ago. No english or french.

I escorted them to my apartment. The mamasan stayed in the living room and went with the younger one to the bedroom for the massage.

Started with the back massage. During this massage she took her dress off. Nice lingerie.

When flipping over for the front part she started to play with my little fellow and came few minutes later haha. Then some caressing. After which I started to massage and finger her. When I wanted to started to fuck she said no. And also indicating time was over. But only 35 minutes had been passed. She got up and walked to the mamasan and came back. (clearly she got her instruction what to do.)

She started CBJ. And then went on her back invited to fuck her. Did her in several positions and finished off with 10 minutes left. She moved to the shower. Paid the mamasan 50 euro and tipped the girl 10. And they seemed quite happy. Mamasan was quite nice in fact.

The girl was for sure a beginner. Massage was soso. Not bad but not real professional. And is indeed only to start. Hanky panky is the mean goal. Would do it again? I reckon yes.[/QUOTE]So what do you think Denis.

[QUOTE=Kessler69]So what do you think Denis.[/QUOTE]

Kesler
I glad you had a good experience , 50+10€ is I think a good deal, there are plenty like this in Paris ,
Cheers

[QUOTE=Denis]Kesler,

I glad you had a good experience , 50+10€ is I think a good deal, there are plenty like this in Paris.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Hi denis,

All in the same line? Was thinking of changing also. But didn't see much stickies on the walls lately.

Is it normal that a mamasan stays in the living room while the girl is doing a "massage"?

I finally found something interesting in Paris: Asian massage parlours. Of course, it is certainly not a reason to come here, but if you want to visit Paris, it can be nice.

You will easily recognize those places, it is often written "massages" and chinese words on the window. Price is generally 40€ for a full massage, chinese or thai, during one hour. Then, there is the happy ending, for wich the lady will ask a tip around 20€.

The quality of the massage can be very different from a place to another. But as it is not so expensive, the risk is not very high.

There are currently, I think, more than 100 asian massage parlours in Paris. If you come here, try that.

[QUOTE=Ecivel]I finally found something interesting in Paris: Asian massage parlours. Of course, it is certainly not a reason to come here, but if you want to visit Paris, it can be nice.

You will easily recognize those places, it is often written "massages" and chinese words on the window. Price is generally 40€ for a full massage, chinese or thai, during one hour. Then, there is the happy ending, for wich the lady will ask a tip around 20€.

The quality of the massage can be very different from a place to another. But as it is not so expensive, the risk is not very high.

There are currently, I think, more than 100 asian massage parlours in Paris. If you come here, try that.[/QUOTE]Depends a bit on the area also. in my arrondisement the price for an hour massage in these kind of places is between 60 and 80 euro without extra's. In some nice Thai massage places you pay even more.

This eve tried again one of the adds you find in the street.

Lady arrived more 45 minutes earlier. Picked her up from the metro. Price was 40 euro/one hour.

This one was a far more professional massage. Small lady .. around 45 i reckon.

She massaged in her red underwear. Did a good job with a little bit of teasing .. after 50 minutes she asked if I wanted a handjob for some extra money. Asked for BJ but she didnt do.

Payed 10 for the HJ .. So overall €50,- for a very good massage with happy end.

[QUOTE=Rollo Aff]Fully agree althoigh I think Horny Toad totally overpaid his HJ. If we all agree upon what to pay for certain services then the sex wouldnt be so god damn expensive in this city.[/QUOTE]Actually, I completely agree with you Rollo Aff. In my own hunting grounds I'm very frugal, but when I venture out in the world and it's difficult to speak the local language it's tough to argue money (particularly when it's you're first time at the location). Much easier after subsequent visits when you have more experience in-country. Case in point, my first massage in China I basically got robbed but subsequent I took advantage of what I'd learned.

[QUOTE=Dreams]...for a factual and useful report. It's nice to have a few posters who do not indulge in general stereotypes and statements about police, corruption etc... which, of course, are written by guys who did not even visit the place.

It's like if i was going on the US board and write about the NYPD... because iIsae a serie on how bad they are..[/QUOTE]The whining is why I was a lurker for such a long time. However, because of a few key posters that I've read from various locations around the world, I was inspired to write my own reviews. I wanted to give back to those that helped me navigate P4P outside my own hunting grounds and I figure there are many (like me) that need these detailed reviews to make their own hunting easier (and thus) more fun.

HT

Hi,

I have visited Paris a lot of time ago.

At that time I was not more than a children but i was shocked by the big number
of migrants that lived into the capital.

I remeber that it was more simple to see interracial couples that whithe french couples.

May i know how is the situation now and if African black migrants women are available to be fiancees of europena man that are living in Paris?

Are they opened to begin wifes of europena or is it difficult to know them?

[QUOTE=European Man]Hi, May I know how is the situation now and if African black migrants women are available to be fiancees of europena man that are living in Paris?

Are they opened to begin wifes of europena or is it difficult to know them?[/QUOTE]Hi,

In Paris, there are many many black girls. Most of them are from Africa but there are a lot french nationals from French Carribean and pacific territories (Guadeloupe, Martinique, Reunion.). The interracial couples are still important but not so much as you explain. What is sure is that it depends on the place in Paris where you are looking for them. Regarding those nice chicks availability, it's sure that all of them are open, just like other girls in Paris or anywhere else in Western Europe. Especially the young generation which born in France. I mean from 18 to 25. There are some very nice places in Paris to meet'them: CHATELET LES HALLES subway station and other places like CHATEAU ROUGE.

That's what I noticed.

[QUOTE=Kessler69]This eve tried again one of the adds you find in the street.

Lady arrived more 45 minutes earlier. Picked her up from the metro. Price was 40 euro/one hour.

This one was a far more professional massage. Small lady .. around 45 i reckon.

She massaged in her red underwear. Did a good job with a little bit of teasing .. after 50 minutes she asked if I wanted a handjob for some extra money. Asked for BJ but she didnt do.

Payed 10 for the HJ .. So overall €50,- for a very good massage with happy end.[/QUOTE]New add on the walls. This one adds a metro station Dupleix so I reckon you have to go to her place. (doesn't mention massage at yr place)

Denis. Any experience with this?

Just to note that Li Ling Chinese Massage formerly at 6 Villa St Charles 75015 has closed. No sign that they have moved, but the place is empty and up for lease.

Saw some activity around the arc de thriomph Thursday eve 9the second ring). Girls hanging around and a black girl being picked up by a car

She indicated to him where her place was and off they went. The guy nearly crashed his car while taking off haha. He must have been too excited.

Does anyone knows an outcall asian massage in Paris?

[QUOTE=Asaas]Does anyone knows an outcall asian massage in Paris?[/QUOTE]Check all the reports below.

So much information already.

[QUOTE=Kessler69]Check all the reports below.

So much information already.[/QUOTE]Didnt find any numbers.

This is my first visit to Paris.

[QUOTE=Asaas]Didnt find any numbers.

This is my first visit to Paris.[/QUOTE]Look in the street.

There are these small adds on the rain-pipes.

This week used an add on the "walls" again. French lady directed me to a salon close to Metro Cambronne.

Clean place with nice room.

40 euro/hour. Young girl doing the massage. She was nice and did a good job. Only pity that she already wanted to stop after 45 indicating the hour was spend. Thats the only annoying thing always. Time issue.

Argued for a while and she continued for an extra 5 minutes or so. Then was a bit fed up by it and dressed and left. Pity (and stupid of the girl/salon also) since massage was quite good but don't think I will go back.

Went there this afternoon to have a look and indeed its intriguing. If you are a fan of mature plain Chinese woman then this is yr place.

But reckon everything has it's price. And here its not expensive.

There was one a bit younger then average but she was quite fast picked up. And left per metro.

Overall didn't see anyone who met my taste, but was nice to see and stroll around a bit, .

Maybe becos it's holiday time in france it was not soo busy. Will try again tmrow.

Hi all,

Just met a fantastic women a couple of weeks ago that I met through the Internet. She is a mature 44 year old women who has no Taboos. I fucked her in the ass for about an hour :-) She actually is a writer and just doing some whoring on the side and I am know a regular with her every week and I also was actually her first customer ever!!

She is one of the best fucks I have ever had, even though she is not a very beautiful women (although good looking but a bit plump) she makes it up with technique and attitude, really dirty if you like or sweet if that's your cup of the. Just a fantastic experience for those who likes a mature women who knows what she's doing.
Anyway if anyone is interested in her contact info, send me a PM.

Keep it cool in the heat,

Rollo

To all ISG readers,

I just wanted to share an experience I had in a strip club called La Diva (across the road next to Moulin Rouge) in Montmartre. I was visiting Paris 2 weeks ago and I was in Montmartre and had decided to check out this strip club called La Diva. When I walked in, it was quite empty (The alarm bells in my head should have rung) and I was immediately approached by one of the girls with the usual may I sit with you. They were quite evasive with my request for the menu, so I just asked for a beer. The girl then asked for a drink and I said OK (my fault for not checking the prices first but from my experience in New York, St Petersburg and other major cities around the world, well maybe it will cost say at most USD50 and I made a mistake assuming those would be the prices). With the drink, the girl said OK since you bought me a drink, I will dance for you, before I could react, she started dancing and immediately stripped and grabbed my hand to touch her. At that point, I felt something wasn't right and insisted on the price. To my horror and shock, they brought me a bill for Euro400 being the table dance and Euro200 for touching the girl. At that point I knew I was conned. Arguments with the establishment as you are all by now would have said, how stupid can you be, obviously didn't work and I ended up with a total bill of Euro780.

Bad experience and stupid of me but I thought maybe a warning to all out there is the least I could do. Please pass on my experience to whomever you could think of to avoid this club called La Diva (across from Moulin Rouge) at Montmartre, Paris.

Yours,

Danehoe

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[quote]I just wanted to share an experience I had in a strip club called La Diva (across the road next to Moulin Rouge) in Montmartre. [...] I ended up with a total bill of Euro780.[/quote]In Pigale, Montmartre and in all this area all strip clubs with bars are SWINDLES. It has been written again and again. People won't read. DO NOT go in these "bar à bouchon". It is just a swindle. The French Police does not want to do anything about this. It has been going on for about 30 years.

Prostitution is illegal in pubs in France. No bar in France offers prostitution. Anyone offering prostitution in a pub in France is just trying to swindle you. Do NOT enter these establishments. Once you are inside they will force you to pay, even if you don't drink anything.

It is written in every mogering forum about Pigale. So don't waste your money and don't encourage the crooks in these pubs.

There are plenty of places where you can choose nice girls in the streets of Paris:

- Métro Strasbourg Saint Denis (Chineese and Eastern girls)
- Belleville (chineese prostitution).

Why spend money and get nothing in Pigale? Pigale is just a place for gullible tourists.

I happened on a nice place just a block off Rue Cler. I think it was called Bilitys. It has a blue light outside. They weren't too pushy. I got a private dance from a middle eastern girl, her name started with a D. Nice tush, very sweet. I think it was 100 euros.

[QUOTE=Danehoe]To all ISG readers,

I just wanted to share an experience I had in a strip club called La Diva (across the road next to Moulin Rouge) in Montmartre. I was visiting Paris 2 weeks ago and I was in Montmartre and had decided to check out this strip club called La Diva. When I walked in, it was quite empty (The alarm bells in my head should have rung) and I was immediately approached by one of the girls with the usual may I sit with you. They were quite evasive with my request for the menu, so I just asked for a beer. The girl then asked for a drink and I said OK (my fault for not checking the prices first but from my experience in New York, St Petersburg and other major cities around the world, well maybe it will cost say at most USD50 and I made a mistake assuming those would be the prices). With the drink, the girl said OK since you bought me a drink, I will dance for you, before I could react, she started dancing and immediately stripped and grabbed my hand to touch her. At that point, I felt something wasn't right and insisted on the price. To my horror and shock, they brought me a bill for Euro400 being the table dance and Euro200 for touching the girl. At that point I knew I was conned. Arguments with the establishment as you are all by now would have said, how stupid can you be, obviously didn't work and I ended up with a total bill of Euro780.

Bad experience and stupid of me but I thought maybe a warning to all out there is the least I could do. Please pass on my experience to whomever you could think of to avoid this club called La Diva (across from Moulin Rouge) at Montmartre, Paris.

Yours,

Danehoe

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...you would have known. These places are the worst rip off places you can imagine, just on par with a few similar joints in Soho in London. Before Internet, one could have sympathy for those who fall in the trap, but nowadays... Anyway, a good reminder to all...

Anybody has any news from Morgane? She disappeared from niamodel but she is still on some other websites : [url]http://www.sexindex.ch/escort/feemorgane/fr/[/url] .

She was not cheap but boy the sex was good, not just anal also possibly the best BBBJ I ever had. Using champagne to spice it and tickle.

[QUOTE=Danehoe]I just wanted to share an experience I had in a strip club called La Diva (across the road next to Moulin Rouge) in Montmartre. I was visiting Paris 2 weeks ago and I was in Montmartre and had decided to check out this strip club called La Diva. When I walked in, it was quite empty...
...To my horror and shock, they brought me a bill for Euro400 being the table dance and Euro200 for touching the girl. At that point I knew I was conned. Arguments with the establishment as you are all by now would have said, how stupid can you be, obviously didn't work and I ended up with a total bill of Euro780[/QUOTE]

This story makes me smile and shiver at the same time. Many, many years ago, I was walking through the Montmartre area, almost within sight of the Moulin Rouge, and two women approached me outside a club and told me that they wanted to go inside but the club did not allow unaccompanied women to enter. They asked, would I escort them just so they can get inside ? To me, it seemed harmless enough and I grew up in a "big city", and seen and heard about scams. Today, I'd recognize what was going on and keep walking but back then, I said, OK, and walked through the front door with them. We were led to a booth by a host and we sat down. Immediately a waiter showed up asking if I would like to order drinks for the ladies. I can't remember now if I asked for a drink menu or found one on the table but a quick glance at the menu showed drinks costing hundreds of Francs (yes, it was a long time ago) and that wasn't even the champagne. Without pausing, I immediately stood up, saying goodbye as I moved to and out the front door. I didn't look back.

Never order something in such a place without knowing what it will cost. If you don't know what it will cost, don't order it and don't agree to a dance.

Rufus

[QUOTE=Denis]Just a small update on the Chinese SW in Paris

Second area is Belleville

Many cheaper mature Chinese ladies can be found at the metro Belleville in front of the metro and in front of Paris Store shop. normally there is a lot of people always in this busy area but they are easy to spot as they are waiting and look at you if you look at them. prices are in the 30 euros range. they are using their own room so you can save the hotel bill or they are using cheap hotel near by but do not expect a five star service!

Denis[/QUOTE]Went last week with a friend to Metro Belleville. Was evening and some mature Chinese woman were walking around but also decent amount of younger girls end 20 beginning 30. Asked for some prices. They wanted 100 euro's which seems a bit too high to our liking so we didn't try although some girls were quite nice.

Bonjour,

As both my time and my French are extremely limited I was hoping for a good recommendation in Paris.

I am staying at the Hilton Arc de Triomphe on Rue de Courcelles and would like a good rub and tug.

Any suggestions on a good massage with happy ending or tantra massage place?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=El Kapitan]Bonjour,

As both my time and my French are extremely limited I was hoping for a good recommendation in Paris.

Try the Thai massage parlours (rue Rodier, rue Montholon, not far from gare du Nord). Price will be about Euros 100, maybe a little more.

[QUOTE=El Kapitan]Bonjour,

As both my time and my French are extremely limited I was hoping for a good recommendation in Paris.

I am staying at the Hilton Arc de Triomphe on Rue de Courcelles and would like a good rub and tug.

Any suggestions on a good massage with happy ending or tantra massage place?

Thanks![/QUOTE]I know yr hotel. And the area. Since I live closeby. Don't go to gare du nord area. Its unpleasant and a rip off.

Try one of the adresses you find on the rainpipes outside yr hotel. In the street you will find these for sure.

There are some massage salons close by but not all of them give a happy end. The private adresses for sure

Good luck and let us know how it was.

Btw there is a thai massage place at rue Pierre Demours crossing Rue de Courcelles (sinc erue de courcelles is quite long. Its a few blocks oppiste direction downtown. So walk northwest wards. You will also notice the area is much nicer there then were yr hotel is.

[quote=getopardo][quote=el kapitan]bonjour,

as both my time and my french are extremely limited i was hoping for a good recommendation in paris.

try the thai massage parlours (rue rodier, rue montholon, not far from gare du nord). price will be about euros 100, maybe a little more.[/quote]
about 100 of them rep001tered around . in most case, a lame massage for about 30 min, with a not so attractive girl. then the question: "la aussi?" means "here tooo?". then negociation 20 euros for a hj. rarely bj can be had for more. ymmv, you may be lucky...or more likely not.

avoid at all coats rip off places in pigalle, where girls outside clubs grab you...

I've also looked for numbers, it seems the area was cleaned out. I've only found 1 message in Chinese which had phone numbers. Sadly I did not have the time to give it a try though. The message had multiple phone numbers which one could rear off. I belief I found it on Avenue de Choisy on the side of Rue de Tolbiac.

Later I visited the area again with a French speaking friend, it turns out the messages in French are about people seeking jobs!

[QUOTE=Kessler69]I know yr hotel. And the area. Since I live closeby. Don't go to gare du nord area. Its unpleasant and a rip off.

Try one of the adresses you find on the rainpipes outside yr hotel. In the street you will find these for sure.

There are some massage salons close by but not all of them give a happy end. The private adresses for sure

Good luck and let us know how it was.

Btw there is a thai massage place at rue Pierre Demours crossing Rue de Courcelles (sinc erue de courcelles is quite long. Its a few blocks oppiste direction downtown. So walk northwest wards. You will also notice the area is much nicer there then were yr hotel is.[/QUOTE]


Thanks. I tried Thai one but I got there at 2000 and they closed. I tried to call one of the ones off the drain pipes but got a message in french I did not understand.

C'est la vie.

[QUOTE=El Kapitan]Thanks. I tried Thai one but I got there at 2000 and they closed. I tried to call one of the ones off the drain pipes but got a message in french I did not understand.

C'est la vie.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear, they are also open on Sunday.

Well wanted to let you guys know I tried on of the girls from Niamodel.com the other day. This one to be exact [url]http://niamodel.com/popup/femme/11819[/url].

Her place was ok, her tits big, but her face not very nice she was a bit bigger then her pics might suggest and some strechmarks on her stomach and hips....Apart from that she did perform a quite good BBBJ, ok doggy and mish and I finished of on her big tits. Cost €150.

Won't come back but always interested in trying new things.

Cheers,

Rollo

i wondered along saint denis for a short while. i scouted out the area. i decided to have dinner and a drink.

this my first time to paris. i heeded many of the advice posted in this forum. i avoided the peep shows and the strip clubs. i avoided the tall good looking "ladies". thank you for the advice. i avoided a lot of problems.

i walked back down the street and met a good looking girl from ganna close to the subway. i will write more as soon as i take her out of the hotel.

So I was about to leave and desided to make one more round. I went about 20 yards in from the station and this beautiful black woman was talking on the phone. We made eye contact. She quickly hung up the phone and said 50 euros for CBJ and FS. I said ok. She took me down this alley and entered a code to enter a door. We walked up two flights of stairs. As we reached the second floor she said let's do it here. So she convinced me to pull down my pants and let her CBJ. Then she bent over and we did it doggy.

There were interuptions. So she said for 150 euros she wooluld come back to my hotel. I quickly said only if it is gfe. She agreed. We took the subway back to my hotel. We did every position after CBJ. She started a porn movie on pay per view. We laid there for a while for a break. I couldn't wait any longer and then came in her (with a condom on). Pm me if you would like her digits.

Body 7/10
Looks 8/10
Attitude 7/10
Service 7/10
Overall 8/10

[quote=ecivel]i finally found something interesting in paris: asian massage parlours. of course, it is certainly not a reason to come here, but if you want to visit paris, it can be nice.

you will easily recognize those places, it is often written "massages" and chinese words on the window. price is generally 40€ for a full massage, chinese or thai, during one hour. then, there is the happy ending, for wich the lady will ask a tip around 20€.

the quality of the massage can be very different from a place to another. but as it is not so expensive, the risk is not very high.
[/quote]

i quite agree with you ecivel that this is one of the more refreshing newish developments in paris. i also agree that it's terribly hit-and-miss, but if a studio turns out to do massage only then, well, i like a massage and like you said it's not horribly expensive.

a good place to start is online directories such as vivastreet.fr, which has its own sub-category for erotic services. (until a few months ago i could have added kijiji.fr, but they seem to have "cleaned their act"....) the problem is, they cannot advertise little "extras" or they'd be in trouble as the paris police is extremely strict on prostitution. a few advertisers let you know that they offer a "massage complet" which is as explicit as they dare get; others specify that their service is "non-erotique"; 95% let you guess.

in my experience (i've visited around 30 such places over the last couple of years...) they are distributed with around one third doing only massage; about half doing massage plus hand relief (only); and the rest ready and willing to enter into bj, and may even suggest this themselves. these latter used to be concentrated south-west of gare du nord (rue rodier and so on...) but can now really be found everywhere. there's even one on the ultra-posh rue pergolese, which is quite good actually, but - on supposes, for that reason - also so popular that i don't bother to go anymore. there's inevitably a sign on the door telling me to "come back in 45 minutes". a further tip in identifying these latter places: they almost always have only one woman working. a typical place has, once one has entered from the pavement, a tiny ante-chamber where one is supposed to sit and wait in the case of "queue".

even in the studios that do offer "erotic services" the services on offer are extremely individual and varied among providers. this has to do with the fact that if the police is tough on prostitution they are ex-treme-ly tough on pimping. (3-4 years for first-time offenders - and i'm not joking.) so, in the studios where several girls work they take great pains not to know what goes on in the cabins. this is hypocrisy, of course, because the places offering hand relief pay next to nothing to the girls for your standard massage - the 40 euros are basically money into their pockets, and the girls are left to earn a living through "tips". from a visitor's perspective it creates the problem that the market - even in a salon where you have come often before - is very opaque. if you get coupled with a new provider all the balls are up in the air. the advantage of this system is that you can sometimes persuade, for extra money of course, the providers in a hj-only place to provide you with a whole range of extra services. - but, she'll hang a towel on the door knob to prevent peeks throught he keyhole, and implore you not to tell anybody.

my advice to those who speak french is to shop around until you've found a good provider or two (as opposed to salon) and then stick to her/them. it's commonly done. just phone the salon at least 1 hour in advance and say you're coming at, say, 15.00 and you want an hour with this-or-that girl. they'll accept your reservation. just.... please don't tell the mamasan or the other girls why you prefer that precise provider. you might get her into serious trouble.

Staying at Renaissance Trocadero on Ave Raymond Poincare and took a walk around.

Tried Institut Duang Raphee with no luck. It looked promising out of the gate but was informed that the towel must stay on and no massaging "all body".

I stopped into Terre de Chine 116 but they have "non erotiques" on their flyer so I am thinking it is a no go although it seems like it would be.

I am going to try the Thai place on Ave Raymond Poincare just down from hotel tomorrow and hope for the best.

I never thought getting a rub and tug in Paris would be so difficult. Makes me miss the germanic countries and eastern europe. Hell even in Dubai you get a happy ending in Thai massage places and for less money!

Anyone have any recommendations?

[QUOTE=El Kapitan]Staying at Renaissance Trocadero on Ave Raymond Poincare and took a walk around.

Tried Institut Duang Raphee with no luck. It looked promising out of the gate but was informed that the towel must stay on and no massaging "all body".

I stopped into Terre de Chine 116 but they have "non erotiques" on their flyer so I am thinking it is a no go although it seems like it would be.

I am going to try the Thai place on Ave Raymond Poincare just down from hotel tomorrow and hope for the best.

I never thought getting a rub and tug in Paris would be so difficult. Makes me miss the germanic countries and eastern europe. Hell even in Dubai you get a happy ending in Thai massage places and for less money!

Anyone have any recommendations?[/QUOTE]
A Thai beauty, naked, massage plus body body and HJ for 120 Euros.

[QUOTE=El Kapitan]I never thought getting a rub and tug in Paris would be so difficult. Makes me miss the germanic countries and eastern europe. Hell even in Dubai you get a happy ending in Thai massage places and for less money!

Anyone have any recommendations?[/QUOTE]It's not so difficult. I already mentioned the place on Rue Pergolese, not so far from where you are staying. It's number 62, as far as I remember. But, again, as there's only one provider you may have to wait.

Secondly, there is a smattering of places south-west of Gare du Nord. If I'm not mistaken there'll be a few Thai salons in the rue du Bellefond.

Thirdly, if you speak French I suggest you go on vivastreet.fr and do a search under erotic services. There's a mixture of escort girls, studios and massage salons.

Well, good luck. Take care. And, mort aux vaches!

...I quite forgot to mention: rue Montholon, in the same part of Paris as rue du Bellefond, also used to have a few watering holes. And maybe still does - I haven't been there for almost a year. These are places which focus on body massage and make no particular secret of the possibility of "extras".

The small Chinese salons that offer real massage and then, after 40 minutes, offer you a surprise ending are hidden in ordinary neighbourhoods throughout Paris. You'll just have to look up "massages" on some of the online boards and try your luck. I will not use this board to point a finger at those I know to provide happy endings, because law enforcement is constantly trying to spot them. Whatever good services they provided remains between them and me.

Hi,

What is the law in France, is prostitution legal? Is it legal to contact a escort and use her services? Can one get into any problems cantacting a escort agency in Paris?

Do you guys recommend any decent "escort friendly" hotels?

[QUOTE=Cnuss]Hi,

What is the law in France, is prostitution legal? Is it legal to contact a escort and use her services? Can one get into any problems cantacting a escort agency in Paris?

Do you guys recommend any decent "escort friendly" hotels?[/QUOTE]Cnuss,

RTFF (Read The F***ing Forum)

A good place to start is online directories such as vivastreet. Fr, which has its own sub-category for erotic services. (Until a few months ago I could have added kijiji. Fr, but they seem to have "cleaned their act".) The problem is, they cannot advertise little "extras" or they'd be in trouble as the Paris police is extremely strict on prostitution. A few advertisers let you know that they offer a "massage complet" which is as explicit as they dare get; others specify that their service is "non-erotique"; 95% let you guess.

I was wondering if there is anybody around who has some experience with vivastreet. Tried to call a few. Or the phone was not picked up. Or the price quoted was very high. Or they didn't call back. They didn't seem very interested.

Anyone?

[QUOTE=Kessler69]I was wondering if there is anybody around who has some experience with vivastreet. Tried to call a few. Or the phone was not picked up. Or the price quoted was very high. Or they didn't call back. They didn't seem very interested. [/QUOTE]

I've used it mostly to find massage salons. One way to do that is to search useing terms like "rue", "avenue" or "boulevard". The ones that provide a street address are obviously the walk-in salons.

As for the appartment girls, I've tried a few numbers and like you I've had, at best, mixed success. Some don't respond. Some tell you they're not in the neighbourhood the ad suggests but in the opposite of town. All of them insist you arm yourself with your mobile, come to their neighbourhood, phone again, are told where to go, phone again to get the door code... Quelle pagaille! With the street noise in Paris I have more than once given up because I simply couldn't understand the instructions that a non-native French speaker bleated down through the phone line.

I had one reasonably good experience with a Moroccan woman in her early 30s, who works close to Victor Hugo. She calls hereself "Amal" and maybe you can still find her if you search on that name. At 150E she is not cheap, but she is smiley and willing to BBBJ and French kiss as part of the standard service. She also hinted strongly that for a little "extra" additional services could be arranged. All in all... not great, but better than most one finds in Paris these days.

[QUOTE=Priamos]I've used it mostly to find massage salons. One way to do that is to search useing terms like "rue", "avenue" or "boulevard". The ones that provide a street address are obviously the walk-in salons.

As for the appartment girls, I've tried a few numbers and like you I've had, at best, mixed success. Some don't respond. Some tell you they're not in the neighbourhood the ad suggests but in the opposite of town. All of them insist you arm yourself with your mobile, come to their neighbourhood, phone again, are told where to go, phone again to get the door code... Quelle pagaille! With the street noise in Paris I have more than once given up because I simply couldn't understand the instructions that a non-native French speaker bleated down through the phone line.

I had one reasonably good experience with a Moroccan woman in her early 30s, who works close to Victor Hugo. She calls hereself "Amal" and maybe you can still find her if you search on that name. At 150E she is not cheap, but she is smiley and willing to BBBJ and French kiss as part of the standard service. She also hinted strongly that for a little "extra" additional services could be arranged. All in all... not great, but better than most one finds in Paris these days.[/QUOTE]Yeahh am having the same as non native french speaker. Is simply can't get the instructions right or get the demanded price.

[QUOTE=Priamos]I had one reasonably good experience with a Moroccan woman in her early 30s, who works close to Victor Hugo. She calls hereself "Amal" and maybe you can still find her if you search on that name. At 150E she is not cheap, but she is smiley and willing to BBBJ and French kiss as part of the standard service. She also hinted strongly that for a little "extra" additional services could be arranged. All in all... not great, but better than most one finds in Paris these days.[/QUOTE]Tried to find her on Vivastreet. Pity not there. I would have liked to taste the arabic woman.

Some fellow punters remarked a couple of years ago on this thread that the street action in Rue Myrha, which used to feature a number of young African providers, had fallen victim to a government clean-up. Well, recently it has bounced back - albeit a few streets further to the north than where it used to be. I've scouted the neighbourhood and these are my preliminary conclusions.

First, the centre in the new action is the corner between Boulevard Barbes and the Rue Labat. End-afternoon and early evening you'll see a couple of handsfuls of providers hang out around the corner itself, and throughout the day individuals and couples walk the streets within 1-2 blocks from this corner. All you have to do is to seek eye contact with the African girls you meet on the pavement; if they stare back, you're in.

Second, this is a hustler's neighbourhood. The girls will offer to take you to a hotel that, according to them, will charge 30-35E for a room, but which in practice may be 15-20E more expensive. Moreover, the bait and switch "I want more money" is in this neighbourhood not an exception but the rule. If you expect a girl to do what you promises to do, then the more fool you!! (This is usually the case with African women in Europe. I don't know why. It's normally not so bad in Africa...)

Let me give you an example. Last week I teamed up with a petite black woman who was loitering on a bench in the Boulevard Barbes late in the afternoon. She spoke a halting French and told me she prefers English. I changed languages only to discover she didn't speak English very well either. (Nigeria? Ghana?) She wanted 30E for the hotel and 35E for herself. I agreed, but we had little luck with the hotel(s): the first two we visited were full. (I'll never get used to this... in every other city in the world receptionist would make an apologetic face and say "I'm ever so sorry, Sir, but...". In Paris they put on an arrogant stone face and bark "C'est complet!") The third hotel demanded 45E for a room without bath and toilet, which I reluctantly paid. When we got to the room, my provider suddenly got mealy-mouthed and mumbled "should we undress?" Well, yeah, of course we should undress, that's why we are here. "Well, in that case it's 100E. I don't take my clothes off for less. If you want a BJ in addition to sex then it's 150E".

I marched out. I mean... OK, I was not born yesterday: The 35E she quoted were too cheap by Paris standards and I could have bargained her 150 down to about 60E. And, the girl clearly figured that having already wasted 20 minutes of my time, and 45E of my money, she had me over a barrel. But... it puts me off 100% to be treated like an idiot. Renegotiations are not my idea of perfect foreplay. If some of my fellow mongerers are tougher than I, or if they like bargaining, then the expat African street scene is open for business! :)

[QUOTE=Kessler69]Tried to find her on Vivastreet. Pity not there. I would have liked to taste the arabic woman.[/QUOTE]Has anyone had a good experience/contact with an oriental woman?

[QUOTE=Kessler69]Has anyone had a good experience/contact with an oriental woman?[/QUOTE]I have never been with an oriental girl. I am looking after brazilians.

Last one was Sarah.

[url]http://escort.vivastreet.fr/escort-girl-boy+paris-15eme-ardt-75015/sarah-15eme/18038789/p#3[/url]

She is really nice and I got a great GFE experience.

She asked 100€ for 30 minutes but I stayed 40 minutes.

150€ for 1hour and 2 pops.

Even if I am not a regular customer for this kind of service, I am lucky to get always good experience.

I always select new members and I always check if the phone number has already been posted for long time.

When I met a brazilian, I usualy talk to her about my trip in Rio and Sao Paolo.
I used to speak with her in spanish. I look like more a latin guy. Some of friends tell me, I look like a carioca.

You can make a research on [url]http://www.niamodel.com/[/url] or [url]http://www.escort-rendez-vous.com[/url]
On both site, you have reviews on escorts [url]http://www.escort-rendez-vous.com/reviews_list.php[/url]

[QUOTE=Kessler69]Tried to find her on Vivastreet. Pity not there. I would have liked to taste the arabic woman.[/QUOTE]

Kessler, are you taking the mickey out of me??? What do you mean, not there? All you have to do is to go on vivastreet ile-de-france and do a text search on "amal". I did this two minutes ago and it worked.

[QUOTE=Priamos]Kessler, are you taking the mickey out of me??? What do you mean, not there? All you have to do is to go on vivastreet ile-de-france and do a text search on "amal". I did this two minutes ago and it worked.[/QUOTE]ooooooooo i went day by day by dayyyyyyyy and didn't find her. Shit didnt know they had a search function on that website.

Sorry for that.

[QUOTE=Math92]I have never been with an oriental girl. I am looking after brazilians.

Last one was Sarah.

[url]http://escort.vivastreet.fr/escort-girl-boy+paris-15eme-ardt-75015/sarah-15eme/18038789/p#3[/url]

She is really nice and I got a great GFE experience.

She asked 100€ for 30 minutes but I stayed 40 minutes.

150€ for 1hour and 2 pops.

Even if I am not a regular customer for this kind of service, I am lucky to get always good experience.

I always select new members and I always check if the phone number has already been posted for long time.

When I met a brazilian, I usualy talk to her about my trip in Rio and Sao Paolo.
I used to speak with her in spanish. I look like more a latin guy. Some of friends tell me, I look like a carioca.

You can make a research on [url]http://www.niamodel.com/[/url] or [url]http://www.escort-rendez-vous.com[/url]
On both site, you have reviews on escorts [url]http://www.escort-rendez-vous.com/reviews_list.php[/url][/QUOTE]Do you have some experiences with the massage girls on Vivastreet?

[QUOTE=Kessler69]Do you have some experiences with the massage girls on Vivastreet?[/QUOTE]
In short, your answer is YMMV... Anything can happen, and there is no easy way to find out beforehand. Unless you understan French and read the french forum like Youppie.

[QUOTE=Kessler69]Do you have some experiences with the massage girls on Vivastreet?[/QUOTE]I got some girls from Vivastreet. Except one who did not match with the picture but still quite nice, I have got always good experience.

I remind you, I have always been with brazialians.

They all talk about massage but I always got only sex. As I am just interested in that so it does not bother me.

I have got somme experiences with black girls around Arc de Triomphe and it has always been a disaster.

You can find some massage parlour with HJ but massages are not as great as you can get from asian countries.

I like frenck forum youppie.net to get some informations about massge palours and I have done some reports on it.

France is not not a great country for mongers since many years. I prefer to save my money for my trip to Rio.

[QUOTE=Math92]I got some girls from Vivastreet. Except one who did not match with the picture but still quite nice, I have got always good experience.

I remind you, I have always been with brazialians.

They all talk about massage but I always got only sex. As I am just interested in that so it does not bother me.

I have got somme experiences with black girls around Arc de Triomphe and it has always been a disaster.

You can find some massage parlour with HJ but massages are not as great as you can get from asian countries.

I like frenck forum youppie.net to get some informations about massge palours and I have done some reports on it.

France is not not a great country for mongers since many years. I prefer to save my money for my trip to Rio.[/QUOTE]I live close to the Arc and see these black girls a lot. Good that I didn't try.

Also the massage parlors are a rip off. And quite disappointing in what you get back.

What do you pay in average? Since I have one Chinese girl who I pay 50 euro plus 10 tip for all. Which seems a very good deal.

And the ones I called from vivastreet are all 100 plus. Correct?

[QUOTE=Kessler69]I live close to the Arc and see these black girls a lot. Good that I didn't try.

Also the massage parlors are a rip off. And quite disappointing in what you get back.

What do you pay in average? Since I have one Chinese girl who I pay 50 euro plus 10 tip for all. Which seems a very good deal.

And the ones I called from vivastreet are all 100 plus. Correct?[/QUOTE]

Differences are not as big as what meets the eye. The massage places with "happy ending" where you walk in from the street typically charge you 40-50 E for one hour. The girls then charge an additional 20-30E for the ending. (I deliberately overpay a little for the latter: I tend to go back to the same places, and once they girls understand I'm generous they compete for my return custom...) The places you find on Vivastreet normally has an "erotic massage" as their standard fare, hence the 100+ E they charge is all included. In the end you may find yourself comparing 80E total with 100E.

[QUOTE=Priamos]Differences are not as big as what meets the eye. The massage places with "happy ending" where you walk in from the street typically charge you 40-50 E for one hour. The girls then charge an additional 20-30E for the ending. (I deliberately overpay a little for the latter: I tend to go back to the same places, and once they girls understand I'm generous they compete for my return custom...) The places you find on Vivastreet normally has an "erotic massage" as their standard fare, hence the 100+ E they charge is all included. In the end you may find yourself comparing 80E total with 100E.[/QUOTE]Picked on tonight from Vivastreet. Its quite headache to organise in fact since they speak very basic french. The telephone line is most cases bad and the keep on cutting the line. So after several tries with different ones.

Finally managed a Chinese woman lived closed to Republique. Was quite a challenge to find the place and the apartment.

She was quite nice. Very nice body. Late 30 beginning 40 I would say. Started with massage and afterwards covered BJ and full monty.

Price was 100 euro. And finished in 45 minutes.

Although she was nice and seemed to enjoy. She was quite passive. And ready in 45 minutes. So guess I won't go back.

Maybe I should switch to latina girls.

[QUOTE=Priamos]Differences are not as big as what meets the eye. The massage places with "happy ending" where you walk in from the street typically charge you 40-50 E for one hour. The girls then charge an additional 20-30E for the ending. (I deliberately overpay a little for the latter: I tend to go back to the same places, and once they girls understand I'm generous they compete for my return custom...) The places you find on Vivastreet normally has an "erotic massage" as their standard fare, hence the 100+ E they charge is all included. In the end you may find yourself comparing 80E total with 100E.[/QUOTE]I fully agree with you.

I prefer to pay 100/120 € with a latina girl than 65/70€ for an average masage and a happy ending.

[QUOTE=Math92]I fully agree with you.

I prefer to pay 100/120 € with a latina girl than 65/70€ for an average masage and a happy ending.[/QUOTE]But thats not what priamos is saying. He prefers the massage parlors.

I tend to agree with you math. Now only have to find a nice and good latina one.

I have been planning an erotic trip to paris and finally got a chance of going!

Any recommendations on independet girls in paris?

I need a relatively young (till 30) fit escort with average prices (200 euro pert hour) and flexible services.

Would be glad to get any recommendations on this ! :-)

Will be there in a two weeks time.

I would wish to visit Paris and I´m loooking for streetwalkers in this city.

I´ve heard that the Bois de Boulogne is a good place to find streetwalker.

Is worthwhile to go to Bois de Boulogne?

Where can to bring a prostitute to have sex?

Any cheap hostel to bring them?

Thank you

[QUOTE=Hitman 66]I have been planning an erotic trip to paris and finally got a chance of going!

Any recommendations on independet girls in paris?

I need a relatively young (till 30) fit escort with average prices (200 euro pert hour) and flexible services.

Would be glad to get any recommendations on this ! :-)

Will be there in a two weeks time.[/QUOTE]Check ut Niamodel.com, there is loads of girls there and you can search for a girl close to where you are staying.

Worth a try or read the forum.

[QUOTE=Hotman9999]I would wish to visit Paris and I´m loooking for streetwalkers in this city.

I´ve heard that the Bois de Boulogne is a good place to find streetwalker.

Is worthwhile to go to Bois de Boulogne?

Where can to bring a prostitute to have sex?

Any cheap hostel to bring them?

Thank you[/QUOTE]Sorry but this is a weak ass question. If you have read the forum just a little you would have found out about where the SW is. So do that before asking silly questions please.

Hi guys,

I have stayed here in Paris since last summer and my opinion is that Paris is great for sex! First of all there are tons of girls every were in the city, students from all over the world. But if we return to the streetaction here is my opinions and thoughts:

- Best in town! The young streetwalkers near Champs Elysses, some of them great looking! Price around €100. €150. There are usually 8. 10 working girls on the streets around Champs Elysees from hrs 1930 to 2300. My favourite street: Rue de Tilsitt 8 arr.

- Massage, price €35 + €20 for a HJ. My favourite place: Rue de Saussure 17 arr.

Other places, Bois de Boulogne = girls in minivans, its dirty and creepy not my thing. I like my girls young and fresh. But if you want to try it you find the girls around Allee de Longchamp. Price from €30 for a BJ. Rue St Denis = A totally mix of young and old woman waiting for you. If you are up for asian woman you will find a lot of them at the corner of Boulevard de Bonne Nouvelle and Boulevard de Sebastopole. If you want young black girls with a LOT of attitude go to the corner of Rue St Denis and Rue Sainte Foy around 2200. 2300 hrs. You will find around 15. 20 young black girls (some of them good looking) on the street. Price €60. €80. They take you to a stair near by. I have never tried it myself, do anyone know if its safe?

Have a safe hunting.

[QUOTE=Rollo Aff]Check ut Niamodel.com, there is loads of girls there and you can search for a girl close to where you are staying.

Worth a try or read the forum.[/QUOTE]Thank you ! But I need an escort speaking English and this site is in english and the girls seem to be all french speaking!

[QUOTE=Clashcityrocker]Hi guys,

I have stayed here in Paris since last summer and my opinion is that Paris is great for sex! First of all there are tons of girls every were in the city, students from all over the world. But if we return to the streetaction here is my opinions and thoughts:

- Best in town! The young streetwalkers near Champs Elysses, some of them great looking! Price around €100. €150. There are usually 8. 10 working girls on the streets around Champs Elysees from hrs 1930 to 2300. My favourite street: Rue de Tilsitt 8 arr.

- Massage, price €35 + €20 for a HJ. My favourite place: Rue de Saussure 17 arr.

Other places, Bois de Boulogne = girls in minivans, its dirty and creepy not my thing. I like my girls young and fresh. But if you want to try it you find the girls around Allee de Longchamp. Price from €30 for a BJ. Rue St Denis = A totally mix of young and old woman waiting for you. If you are up for asian woman you will find a lot of them at the corner of Boulevard de Bonne Nouvelle and Boulevard de Sebastopole. If you want young black girls with a LOT of attitude go to the corner of Rue St Denis and Rue Sainte Foy around 2200. 2300 hrs. You will find around 15. 20 young black girls (some of them good looking) on the street. Price €60. €80. They take you to a stair near by. I have never tried it myself, do anyone know if its safe?

Have a safe hunting.[/QUOTE]Sounds great, do they speak English ?

[QUOTE=Math92]I have never been with an oriental girl. I am looking after brazilians.

Last one was Sarah.

[url]http://escort.vivastreet.fr/escort-girl-boy+paris-15eme-ardt-75015/sarah-15eme/18038789/p#3[/url]

She is really nice and I got a great GFE experience.

She asked 100€ for 30 minutes but I stayed 40 minutes.

150€ for 1hour and 2 pops.

Even if I am not a regular customer for this kind of service, I am lucky to get always good experience.

I always select new members and I always check if the phone number has already been posted for long time.

When I met a brazilian, I usualy talk to her about my trip in Rio and Sao Paolo.
I used to speak with her in spanish. I look like more a latin guy. Some of friends tell me, I look like a carioca.

You can make a research on [url]http://www.niamodel.com/[/url] or [url]http://www.escort-rendez-vous.com[/url]
On both site, you have reviews on escorts [url]http://www.escort-rendez-vous.com/reviews_list.php[/url][/QUOTE]I found this site on [url]http://www.escort-rendez-vous.com/fiche/aticia[/url]
here it is: [url]http://www.aticia-escort.com/uk/Escort-Girl-Call-Girl-Paris-Aticia-Gallery.html[/url]

The photos look like a collection from different women or models, it looks fake,
how do you think ? Just don't want to get bad experience and diappointment. May be somebody met her?

The photos look great, but I don't believe in them actually, they look a bit strange ?

[QUOTE=Clashcityrocker]Hi guys,

I have stayed here in Paris since last summer and my opinion is that Paris is great for sex! First of all there are tons of girls every were in the city, students from all over the world. But if we return to the streetaction here is my opinions and thoughts:

- Massage, price €35 + €20 for a HJ. My favourite place: Rue de Saussure 17 arr.[/QUOTE]Is that rue de saussure 30? And is it Chinese or? Since the website is a bit vague.

[QUOTE=Kessler69]Is that rue de saussure 30? And is it Chinese or? Since the website is a bit vague.[/QUOTE]
There are about 100 massage places in Paris mostly Chinese. YMMV, and it depends not only on the place, but also on which girl you get. Usually, yes, the massage is around 40 Euros and you can negociate HJ for 20. The girl will almost never undress, but some may let you touch them.
If you read French, the latet info is available on the French forum,youppie.net, under salons de massage.

I can give one address where I went recently: salon Wasana, 5 rue manuel. Beautiful Thai girl, 40 min, all naked, body body, touch and fingering as you like, but inly HJ. However, a very sexually satisfactory experience, since the final is in a 69 position, and there is not much diference bewteen such a good HJ and a BJ.
However, everything has a price, and it wil cost you 120 Euros non negociable...

Good luck

[QUOTE=Dreams]I can give one address where I went recently: salon Wasana, 5 rue manuel. Beautiful Thai girl, 40 min, all naked, body body, touch and fingering as you like, but inly HJ. However, a very sexually satisfactory experience, since the final is in a 69 position, and there is not much diference bewteen such a good HJ and a BJ.
However, everything has a price, and it wil cost you 120 Euros non negociable...

Good luck[/QUOTE]

Wow!! That's exactly what I get in BKK for 20 Euros :D

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Wow!! That's exactly what I get in BKK for 20 Euros :D[/QUOTE]Yes of course but you are not in the city of angels now,, wake up... *lol*

[QUOTE=Kessler69]Is that rue de saussure 30? And is it Chinese or? Since the website is a bit vague.[/QUOTE]Hi Kessler,

Yes its on Rue de Saussure 30,, you get a nice massage with an HJ for 35 + 20 = €55. Yes its Chinese. There is also a Thai Massage on the same street I think she ask for €100 full service ( have never tried it myself ).

[QUOTE=Hitman 66]Sounds great, do they speak English ?[/QUOTE]Hi Hitman,

The girls I have meet around Champs Elysees all spoke french and just some words english.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Wow!! That's exactly what I get in BKK for 20 Euros :D[/QUOTE]
...And that's exactly why you will see me in BKK in January....
Don't know when and if you have been back to Paris, and try mongering there, but the kind of deal I mentionned earlier is probably one of the best. Just to say how bad the global scene is.
That' s why guys don't hesiate to drive 4-5 hours each way for an evening in a FKK.. (I am talking about those who can't go to BKK...)

[QUOTE=Clashcityrocker]Hi Kessler,

Yes its on Rue de Saussure 30,, you get a nice massage with an HJ for 35 + 20 = €55. Yes its Chinese. There is also a Thai Massage on the same street I think she ask for €100 full service ( have never tried it myself ).[/QUOTE]Hi Clashcity rocker.

Do they have one provider or more and in case so do you have a name?

Tkss

[QUOTE=Kessler69]Hi Clashcity rocker.

Do they have one provider or more and in case so do you have a name?

Tkss[/QUOTE]Hi,

No I don't have her name I'm afraid (I think its around 10 girls working there at the same time). But she is young (around 20 yr) long black hair, very good looking and VERY nice, I have been there maybe 5. 7 times always had the same girl. First time she was a bit shy but now its no problem, she usually have a sexy miniskirt and I always take of her panties, she really enjoys it, wet and groans, very sexy experience, she don't ask for a tip but I always give her €20 extra (the massage is €35 per hour).

Last time I talked to the girl at the front desk (she speak very good english and is very nice), asked her if I could get two girls next time. It was no problem, price €70 per hour. Problem is to find another good looking girl working there. The other girls isn't that good looking, many of them are older and not my type at all.

So if you get the same girl I have had your in heaven otherwise its just an ordinary chineese massage with an happy ending I guess.

Have a good one.

Hi Guys,

Have anyone tried the young black girls standing in the end of Rue St Denis? I have heard that they take you to a staircase nearby, sounds a bit "unsafe". But hey you have to try everything.

Also could anyone recommend a good xxx cinema in Paris?

Never been to one but would like to try.

[QUOTE=Clashcityrocker]Hi,

No I don't have her name I'm afraid (I think its around 10 girls working there at the same time). But she is young (around 20 yr) long black hair, very good looking and VERY nice, I have been there maybe 5. 7 times always had the same girl. First time she was a bit shy but now its no problem, she usually have a sexy miniskirt and I always take of her panties, she really enjoys it, wet and groans, very sexy experience, she don't ask for a tip but I always give her €20 extra (the massage is €35 per hour).

Last time I talked to the girl at the front desk (she speak very good english and is very nice), asked her if I could get two girls next time. It was no problem, price €70 per hour. Problem is to find another good looking girl working there. The other girls isn't that good looking, many of them are older and not my type at all.

So if you get the same girl I have had your in heaven otherwise its just an ordinary chineese massage with an happy ending I guess.

Have a good one.[/QUOTE]Went tonight to this place but its at number 38 not 30. Had a woman called Jinjin. Massage was quite nice. A bit too long on the back. All experience was completely non-sexual. No teasing what so ever (she also massaged completely dressed) so when she asked for the finishing I denied since she didn't manage to get me in the mood at all. She was quite nice though and for a normal massage its a nice place and a good price.

Don't know how the others are. Was quite busy when I entered so all rooms occupied.

[QUOTE=Clashcityrocker]Hi Kessler,

Yes its on Rue de Saussure 30,, you get a nice massage with an HJ for 35 + 20 = €55. Yes its Chinese. There is also a Thai Massage on the same street I think she ask for €100 full service ( have never tried it myself ).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info guys.

I tried the Chinese place on Saussure Friday night and had a good experience. 35e at the door. Had a taller lady about 40'is, but nice figure. Small boobs, but real long nipples. Massage was good, with some ass and ball play, but not an erotic message. That's OK for me, I don't mind a nice massage first.

Before the final service, she negotiated hard for 30e and did not want to take 20e.

Earlier that same day, I went to the Thai place down the road (because I missed the Chinese place when I was looking for street number 30). Really sexy girl met me at the door and very directly told me it as 120e for 30 minutes which included a release (I'm not sure what term she used). Her name was Sam. She asked for me to shower first. In the room, she got naked. There was a mirror on the wall, so I could see her sexy body during the massage. Real nice boobs and nice figure. Had some body sliding then finished with a hand job in her tits.

Saturday afternoon I tried the place on Rue Desnouettes. 45e at the door. The massage was on a mattress on the floor. Older lady in early 40's, but good looking. She let me play with her small boobs. HJ was 20e.

Bubbles77

[QUOTE=Hitman 66]I found this site on [url]http://www.escort-rendez-vous.com/fiche/aticia[/url]
here it is: [url]http://www.aticia-escort.com/uk/Escort-Girl-Call-Girl-Paris-Aticia-Gallery.html[/url]

The photos look like a collection from different women or models, it looks fake,
how do you think ? Just don't want to get bad experience and diappointment. May be somebody met her?

The photos look great, but I don't believe in them actually, they look a bit strange ?[/QUOTE]I tried a similar site [url]www.Niamodel.com[/url] (some reports already in this forum)

The photos seemed too good to be true, but I've tried 3 different ladies and they were indeed correct (though some photoshop id rate the girls 7, 8 and 9 respectively). For 100 euros you can get FS with some ladies, and from 150-200 you can get a really nice one. Service was excellent for 2 ladies and very good (only) for the third one. You don't need to pay the hotel, you go their place.

If you look well, you can find a good deal, whatever your tastes. Times are hard, if you tell the girl you may be a repeat custy (and if thats indeed true) you can get even better service.

There are some other sites, they are pretty similar and actually some girls advertise on several sites at the same time.

[QUOTE=Bubbles77]Thanks for the info guys.

I tried the Chinese place on Saussure Friday night and had a good experience. 35e at the door. Had a taller lady about 40'is, but nice figure. Small boobs, but real long nipples. Massage was good, with some ass and ball play, but not an erotic message. That's OK for me, I don't mind a nice massage first.

Before the final service, she negotiated hard for 30e and did not want to take 20e.

Earlier that same day, I went to the Thai place down the road (because I missed the Chinese place when I was looking for street number 30). Really sexy girl met me at the door and very directly told me it as 120e for 30 minutes which included a release (I'm not sure what term she used). Her name was Sam. She asked for me to shower first. In the room, she got naked. There was a mirror on the wall, so I could see her sexy body during the massage. Real nice boobs and nice figure. Had some body sliding then finished with a hand job in her tits.

Saturday afternoon I tried the place on Rue Desnouettes. 45e at the door. The massage was on a mattress on the floor. Older lady in early 40's, but good looking. She let me play with her small boobs. HJ was 20e.

Bubbles77[/QUOTE]Hi Bubbles,

But did she undress? Since mine stayed completely dressed up. Thats why I didn't even bother to negotiate a finish. Totally not arousing.

[QUOTE=Hitman 66]I found this site on [url]http://www.escort-rendez-vous.com/fiche/aticia[/url]
here it is: [url]http://www.aticia-escort.com/uk/Escort-Girl-Call-Girl-Paris-Aticia-Gallery.html[/url]
The photos look like a collection from different women or models, it looks fake,
how do you think ? Just don't want to get bad experience and diappointment. May be somebody met her?
The photos look great, but I don't believe in them actually, they look a bit strange ?[/QUOTE]
She seems like a true independent girl like there are many to be found in the French internet. There is a lot of variability. One can find the best and the worst in terms of attitude and prices.
Two bad signs : she quotes no price, and she has many sponsored links.
Personnally, I would call her, enquire about the prices and check her attitude on the phone.
Regards.
B.B.

Short trip last week. Arrived at hotel at around 1800hrs near the Strasbourg-Saint Denis metro. Plenty of street action around the metro entrance and the famous Rue St Denis a few yards away. After checking in at hotel went straight out for some action. Saw mainly Chinese and a few Eastern European hanging around metro entrance but nothing to get excited over. Proceeded towards Rue St Denis and passed by a few Africans at the top of the street. Again nothing appealing. Saw quite a few standing on Rue Blondel so made a tour. Most looked around 40-50 years old of French origine. Saw a blonde with a body of a youth with huge breasts and asked her for a price. She wanted 70 Euro for a blow job and sex in one position. Carried on back to Rue St Denis and saw another blonde hottie probably 35-40 years old. She noticed me as I walked closer to her and gave me a smile and a quick glance of her enormous bust. She quoted me 50 Euro for a blow job and sex in one position and so off we went into her flat. Started with a covered blow job. Good technique and just the way I liked it. After a few minutes switched to missionary and shot my load deep inside her. Was dissapointed because she was very reluctant to let me touch her fake boobs or any other part of her body.

Anyway, next day after a bit of touring and sightseeing fancied a relaxing massage. Went to a recommended place called Salon Rouge on 21 Rue Mathis, metro Crimee. Greeted by a lovely young receptionist who spoke good English. Went through the menu and opted for a 30 minute massage as I was short on time. Waited in reception for about 20 minutes as the girl I wanted to see was busy with another client. Finally I was led to the massage room to be greeted by Alice. A lovely petite young and fresh girl with flawless skin. She was wearing a very skimpy summer dress. Guided me onto the massage bench and climbed on top of my legs straight away to rub my back! I could feel the wonderful sensation of heat being transfered from her hands and thighs onto my skin. After massaging my back and legs I asked her to concentrate on my tired feet. A few minutes later it was time to turn over and lie down on my back. She noticed my erect member and very enthusiastically popped the question 'Completo? '. I asked her how much and she replied 30 Euro. I gave her the go ahead and she stripped off her dress and bra. My hands started exploring her body and I started to kiss her face and neck. She started to gently stroke my member with one hand and gave me wonderful DFK. I made her sit on my thighs so I could enjoy the warmth of her body and grabbed her arse. She started stroking a little faster while at the same time feeding me her small but firm breasts. I couldn't hold back any longer and so after a few seconds shot a huge load onto her front and made her jump! She remarked 'Ooh La La', and said something else in French and started giggling. We had a laugh and a giggle while she cleaned herself and me and then she escorted me to reception. She said something in Chinese to the receptionist who gave me a smile and wink and than wished me farewell. Total damage 60 Euro and worth every cent. Will definitely return to see her if I go to Paris again.

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[QUOTE=Grandtourer]Short trip last week. Arrived at hotel at around 1800hrs near the Strasbourg-Saint Denis metro. Plenty of street action around the metro entrance and the famous Rue St Denis a few yards away. After checking in at hotel went straight out for some action. Saw mainly Chinese and a few Eastern European hanging around metro entrance but nothing to get excited over. Proceeded towards Rue St Denis and passed by a few Africans at the top of the street. Again nothing appealing. Saw quite a few standing on Rue Blondel so made a tour. Most looked around 40-50 years old of French origine. Saw a blonde with a body of a youth with huge breasts and asked her for a price. She wanted 70 Euro for a blow job and sex in one position. Carried on back to Rue St Denis and saw another blonde hottie probably 35-40 years old. She noticed me as I walked closer to her and gave me a smile and a quick glance of her enormous bust. She quoted me 50 Euro for a blow job and sex in one position and so off we went into her flat. Started with a covered blow job. Good technique and just the way I liked it. After a few minutes switched to missionary and shot my load deep inside her. Was dissapointed because she was very reluctant to let me touch her fake boobs or any other part of her body.

Anyway, next day after a bit of touring and sightseeing fancied a relaxing massage. Went to a recommended place called Salon Rouge on 21 Rue Mathis, metro Crimee. Greeted by a lovely young receptionist who spoke good English. Went through the menu and opted for a 30 minute massage as I was short on time. Waited in reception for about 20 minutes as the girl I wanted to see was busy with another client. Finally I was led to the massage room to be greeted by Alice. A lovely petite young and fresh girl with flawless skin. She was wearing a very skimpy summer dress. Guided me onto the massage bench and climbed on top of my legs straight away to rub my back! I could feel the wonderful sensation of heat being transfered from her hands and thighs onto my skin. After massaging my back and legs I asked her to concentrate on my tired feet. A few minutes later it was time to turn over and lie down on my back. She noticed my erect member and very enthusiastically popped the question 'Completo? '. I asked her how much and she replied 30 Euro. I gave her the go ahead and she stripped off her dress and bra. My hands started exploring her body and I started to kiss her face and neck. She started to gently stroke my member with one hand and gave me wonderful DFK. I made her sit on my thighs so I could enjoy the warmth of her body and grabbed her arse. She started stroking a little faster while at the same time feeding me her small but firm breasts. I couldn't hold back any longer and so after a few seconds shot a huge load onto her front and made her jump! She remarked 'Ooh La La', and said something else in French and started giggling. We had a laugh and a giggle while she cleaned herself and me and then she escorted me to reception. She said something in Chinese to the receptionist who gave me a smile and wink and than wished me farewell. Total damage 60 Euro and worth every cent. Will definitely return to see her if I go to Paris again.

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This place is recommended on the French websites and rightly so. I went there a month ago, and also was serviced by Alice,. everything hapopened as described, almost.. In fact when she asked for finition, and I said yes, she said " you pay more?". I said yes and no nore negociation. When we had finished, and had dressed, and was ready to go, I just realised I had forgotten to give her the extra.. she did not even ask.. I gave her 20,which is the usual price for this, and she was very grateful.

One point though, and that is just my opinion: when I first saw Alice, I did not find her at all attractive neither sexy.. she more looked like, to me at least, like the ordinary middle age Chinese woman that you would came across doing her shopping with 2-3 kids in Chinatown..Also there was a some quite bad odors coming out from...I didn't know where, be it her, the kitchen the bathroom...
When I left, I spotted 3-4 younger , more attractive girls, and when reading the French website, youppie. net, there were reports that the same service can be had from those other girls. I might try them next time.

But the level of service was as good as described, and for Paris,that's quite exceptional.

I hope that french LE don't read ISG, ( they probably don't) because this is strictly illegal, and Chinese massage places are closed every week....and repoen as quiclky.

[QUOTE=Kessler69]Hi Bubbles,

But did she undress? Since mine stayed completely dressed up. Thats why I didn't even bother to negotiate a finish. Totally not arousing.[/QUOTE]Kessler69. No, she put on the Wonderwoman defence and fought off my hands. I managed to barely get her nipples out. I rubbed her pussy on top of her hose and panties, but could not get inside (despite attempts).

Bubble77

[QUOTE=Kessler69]Went tonight to this place but its at number 38 not 30. Had a woman called Jinjin. Massage was quite nice. A bit too long on the back. All experience was completely non-sexual. No teasing what so ever (she also massaged completely dressed) so when she asked for the finishing I denied since she didn't manage to get me in the mood at all. She was quite nice though and for a normal massage its a nice place and a good price.

Don't know how the others are. Was quite busy when I entered so all rooms occupied.[/QUOTE]Went again to this parlor yesterday. Had a lady called Lina. Massage was very good. She said she only worked there for a week. She had a quite nice body. Finishing was very mechanical and bad and stayed dressed ... she allowed touching a bit. Also the madam called 10 minutes before the hour so after 55 minutes was already dressed and outside.

What is it that they always try to get you out before the hour.. its quite bad and will make you leave with a bad feeling.

Although the massage was very good dont think i will come back there given the above.

Tried today to make an appointment with different thai ladies who I found on Viva street and Niamodel

Non of them picked up the phone. Or called back after leaving a message. Wonder why they post these adds when they are not so interested to make some many.

Quite frustrating in fact.

Called Niamodel Luna tonight at 20: 30. She straight away picked up the phone and said she would come to my Metro station.

Got a missed call at 21; 10. So called her back and she mentioned she was on her way. Again at 22:15 she called and she said she was nearly there. Went twice to the Metro station and waited 1. 5 hour. Its 00: 24 now. And she is still not there.

Unbelievable. Why don't they just say no in stead of ruining your whole Saturday evening. Spend most part of the eve at the metro station.

[QUOTE=Kessler69]Called Niamodel Luna tonight at 20: 30. She straight away picked up the phone and said she would come to my Metro station.

Got a missed call at 21; 10. So called her back and she mentioned she was on her way. Again at 22:15 she called and she said she was nearly there. Went twice to the Metro station and waited 1. 5 hour. Its 00: 24 now. And she is still not there.

Unbelievable. Why don't they just say no in stead of ruining your whole Saturday evening. Spend most part of the eve at the metro station.[/QUOTE]I tried 4 girls on NIAMODEL. 3 out of 4 very good.

But always call early in the afternoon. Saturday is just too busy. These girls have regulars. No chance to get anyone on a Saturday. I've tried. And got problems as well.

[QUOTE=Herpes]I tried 4 girls on NIAMODEL. 3 out of 4 very good.

But always call early in the afternoon. Saturday is just too busy. These girls have regulars. No chance to get anyone on a Saturday. I've tried. And got problems as well.[/QUOTE]You may be right. Be she could have said that she was not interested. Now she kept me busy the whole evening. Silly woman.

Which one you can recommend "herpes"?

[QUOTE=Kessler69]You may be right. Be she could have said that she was not interested. Now she kept me busy the whole evening. Silly woman.

Which one you can recommend "herpes"?[/QUOTE]dear kessler,

I do understand your frustration. I got the same problem a few times.

I'm sorry, id like to keep ithe names for me. Anyway my taste is not necessarily yours.

Also these girls are obviously busy and if we post some names on such a forum, they would just become even busier.

But on the niamodel site, for each girl there is a rating page, with some comments (in French) from the users. I would recommend to choose only a girl with decent ratings. There are so many girls on the site anyway, so thats a first point. The presence of a lot of comments (too few might be fake.) is a sign photos are true, and the service is good (or bad!)

I recommend you call also around noon time, and try to speak calmly, politely and like a gentleman. I've tried emails but they never answer to that in time. They are too busy. Works only 1 week in advance if you're lucky. Its just nice to use email if you want to know if the girls is educated and can spell, but usually theyre foreigners anyway.

Also youll soon find out that cheaper is not necessarily less service.

You can very decent find FS around 100 (half hour), no extra ball, or 1hour 150, usually from nice brazilian girls. AF usually add around 50. Some african girls in the 18e charge even less than that but I wouldn't try.

Also once you find a girl you like, id recommend you become a regular. They might charge less or add a bit of service. And it will be easier to make an appointment. The girl might even call you back (if you authorize her).

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Hi Mongers

I am an active monger from India. I am on my way back home via Paris

I have an overnight stay in Paris. I am looking for an hotel accomaodation near the Airport

I may not look for GFE but gerally would like to visit Efiil tower, Arc de triump

Kindly PM or post your suggestions for a hotel stay at a reasonable fair

Luca

[QUOTE=Kessler69]Went again to this parlor yesterday. Had a lady called Lina. Massage was very good. She said she only worked there for a week. She had a quite nice body. Finishing was very mechanical and bad and stayed dressed ... she allowed touching a bit. Also the madam called 10 minutes before the hour so after 55 minutes was already dressed and outside.

What is it that they always try to get you out before the hour.. its quite bad and will make you leave with a bad feeling.

Although the massage was very good dont think i will come back there given the above.[/QUOTE]Hello dude,

Can you please tell me the way to this place using metro.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Herpes]dear kessler,

I do understand your frustration. I got the same problem a few times.

I'm sorry, id like to keep ithe names for me. Anyway my taste is not necessarily yours.

Also these girls are obviously busy and if we post some names on such a forum, they would just become even busier.

But on the niamodel site, for each girl there is a rating page, with some comments (in French) from the users. I would recommend to choose only a girl with decent ratings. There are so many girls on the site anyway, so thats a first point. The presence of a lot of comments (too few might be fake.) is a sign photos are true, and the service is good (or bad!)

I recommend you call also around noon time, and try to speak calmly, politely and like a gentleman. I've tried emails but they never answer to that in time. They are too busy. Works only 1 week in advance if you're lucky. Its just nice to use email if you want to know if the girls is educated and can spell, but usually theyre foreigners anyway.

Also youll soon find out that cheaper is not necessarily less service.

You can very decent find FS around 100 (half hour), no extra ball, or 1hour 150, usually from nice brazilian girls. AF usually add around 50. Some african girls in the 18e charge even less than that but I wouldn't try.

Also once you find a girl you like, id recommend you become a regular. They might charge less or add a bit of service. And it will be easier to make an appointment. The girl might even call you back (if you authorize her).[/QUOTE]Hi herpes,

Yes I do understand. Pity anyway. I do like to share my good and bad experiences.

About that Nina gorl I was telling about / I did check her ratings and theyw ere quite ok. Awkward.

[QUOTE=Inch15]Hello, dude,

Can you please tell me the way to this place using metro.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I walked to that place but metro Malesherbes is close by.

[QUOTE=Kessler69]Hi herpes,

Yes I do understand. Pity anyway. I do like to share my good and bad experiences.

About that Nina gorl I was telling about / I did check her ratings and theyw ere quite ok. Awkward.[/QUOTE]Kessler, I pity you

If you send me a MP I'll give you some directions.

[QUOTE=Kessler69]Hi herpes,

Yes I do understand. Pity anyway. I do like to share my good and bad experiences.

About that Nina gorl I was telling about / I did check her ratings and theyw ere quite ok. Awkward.[/QUOTE]Kessler if you MP me ill give you more details.

[QUOTE=Kessler69]I walked to that place but metro Malesherbes is close by.[/QUOTE]Send me an MP.

[QUOTE=Herpes]Kessler if you PM me ill give you more details.[/QUOTE]I can't unfortunately. Can you?

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Me and my girlfriend are visiting Paris for New Years and were wondering where is the best place to look for a couples massage, either FS or HJ, however we both are looking to be serviced.

Whats your advice?

Should we look for a parlor or a person to make a call to our hotel?

Thanks!

How's everybody doing?

Just visiting the European side of this forum as I'll be visiting Paris this coming 25th to the New Years and wanted to get some news on what's the lock down on where to find some GFE in the area. Any kind of information would be helpful. Especially if you know anyone that I can get in touch with personally the day I arrive. Posts are welcome but of course PM are favored. Will be posting my experiences soon for all to read as I did in the Asia side! Cheers!

Also. Fairly young of age, so info on the ladies from the 24yr mark to 30 wld be nice!

[QUOTE=Gen X Baer]How's everybody doing?

Just visiting the European side of this forum as I'll be visiting Paris this coming 25th to the New Years and wanted to get some news on what's the lock down on where to find some GFE in the area. Any kind of information would be helpful. Especially if you know anyone that I can get in touch with personally the day I arrive. Posts are welcome but of course PM are favored. Will be posting my experiences soon for all to read as I did in the Asia side! Cheers!

Also. Fairly young of age, so info on the ladies from the 24yr mark to 30 wld be nice![/QUOTE]

Do a search like the rest of us would, or, why not contribute some more!


B


PS Paris is a rancid sexual desert....you've been warned!

[QUOTE=Luca 82]I am an active monger from India. I am on my way back home via Paris. I have an overnight stay in Paris. I am looking for an hotel accomaodation near the Airport[/QUOTE]

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[url]http://www.paris-cdg.com/[/url]

Rufus

[QUOTE=Kessler69]I can't unfortunately. Can you?

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When I have a paid subscription I can app PM other members. But when the other member is not a paying member is he still able to answer my private message?

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[QUOTE=Herpes]Send me an MP.[/QUOTE]Hi herpes,

Just took a subscription. So I can PM you over 24 hours.

Will get back to you

Byee

Can anyone tel me way to massage parlours near La Defense or any nearby metro station.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Bbois77]Do a search like the rest of us would, or, why not contribute some more

B

PS Paris is a rancid sexual desert. You've been warned![/QUOTE]I did do a search. Just seeing if there's anything new.

As for my contributions. I'd rather post when I have something to say or a report to show rather then write little sayings like these and jack up my post count.

Thanks for the heads up on Paris though. Guess it'll be a lonely Christmas.

Does anyone has an experience with Nia model Mina. Tried to call her several times but on the answering machine there is a mans voice.

I read a positive feedback on that website so was wondering

PM me if need be

Thanks

[QUOTE=Kessler69]Does anyone has an experience with Nia model Mina. Tried to call her several times but on the answering machine there is a mans voice.

I read a positive feedback on that website so was wondering

PM me if need be

Thanks[/QUOTE]Did you manage to get laid with this site?

[QUOTE=Herpes]Did you manage to get laid with this site?[/QUOTE]Noop till know only bad experiences.

Not much happening here in this section.

How come?

Is Paris such a dead place.

[QUOTE=Kessler69]Not much happening here in this section.

How come?

Is Paris such a dead place.[/QUOTE]I don't know why people are complaining I think the streetaction is pretty good in Paris. You have the girls at Champs Elysees and the latinas at Bois Boulogne. A few girls (latinas) in Bois Boulogne is accely very good looking! But don't use thier service in the wood (€20 for a blowjob), invite them to your place instead (you have to speak french or spanish and you need to have a car). I have done this a couple of times and its very nice, the girl stays the whole night in your apartment and its a real GF expereince. Now I have 2-3 favourits who I call whenever I feel for a night in latina heaven. LOL. But be careful in Bois Boulogne its dark and 99% of all the "girls" are either a tranny or a drug attic, its also a pretty scary place to be in at night so watch your back.

Things to do:

- Girls in Champs Elysees

- Girls I Bois Boulogne

- Pick up all the normal girls/students at bars and discotecs all over town.

Things not to do:

- All the crap in St Denis, Pigalle etc

- Chineese massage (my favourit girl is gone and all the other are old and "not that hot")

- Escort service (expensive)

Thats my opinion, Cheers!

[QUOTE=Clashcityrocker]I don't know why people are complaining I think the streetaction is pretty good in Paris. You have the girls at Champs Elysees and the latinas at Bois Boulogne. A few girls (latinas) in Bois Boulogne is accely very good looking! But don't use thier service in the wood (€20 for a blowjob), invite them to your place instead (you have to speak french or spanish and you need to have a car). I have done this a couple of times and its very nice, the girl stays the whole night in your apartment and its a real GF expereince. Now I have 2-3 favourits who I call whenever I feel for a night in latina heaven. LOL. But be careful in Bois Boulogne its dark and 99% of all the "girls" are either a tranny or a drug attic, its also a pretty scary place to be in at night so watch your back.

Things to do:

- Girls in Champs Elysees

- Girls I Bois Boulogne

- Pick up all the normal girls/students at bars and discotecs all over town.

Things not to do:

- All the crap in St Denis, Pigalle etc

- Chineese massage (my favourit girl is gone and all the other are old and "not that hot")

- Escort service (expensive)

Thats my opinion, Cheers![/QUOTE]To be honest I live close-by the Champs Elysee and walk there a lot but have never picked up a girl from there since they are not very attractive or nice. Sometimes quite old woman and or one or two non-attractive black girls. So am surprised you find this a good spot.

Bois de Bologne is to tricky for me. Don't want to take that risk.

[QUOTE=Kessler69]To be honest I live close-by the Champs Elysee and walk there a lot but have never picked up a girl from there since they are not very attractive or nice. Sometimes quite old woman and or one or two non-attractive black girls. So am surprised you find this a good spot.

Bois de Bologne is to tricky for me. Don't wanna take that risk.[/QUOTE]You must have been looking at the wrong streets my friend.

I live just opposite Arc de Triomphe and I have meet at least 6. 8 smooking hot babes around and on Champs Elysees the last year. All of them students (around 20 yr) looking for some extra cash. Sounds very strange that you have missed them if you live in the neighbour hood?. But sure they are not flashing and screaming out to everyone I'm A HOOKER, you have to look, talk and flirt, these girs are non professionals so its not like for exampel in Amsterdam. But I don't know maybe it depends on your looks, how you dress, what car you drive etc. It have always worked very well for me.

If you looking for an easier pick go to Bois de Bologne, I agree most of the "girls" are nothing to have, but you have a small selection of young latina girls who are really goodlooking. If you live near Champs Elysees its not that far.

Happy hunting.

yeah paris is a good place for street action if you like asian women, there are plenty of them, what is tricky is to notice those who are prostitutes and those who are not, because they are very discreet, they welk alone or in pairs, often wearing a bag, just look at them in the eyes, and if she smiles to you ask her "tu travailles" (are you working?).

do not pay more than 40 eur for st (its going to be short sex, one time only, in an appartment).

a lot of them are old and not attractive, but there is still a minority of young ladies.

bois de boulogne is fine if your fine with fucking in the woods, with cops and peeping toms around.

[QUOTE=Kessler69]To be honest I live close-by the Champs Elysee and walk there a lot but have never picked up a girl from there since they are not very attractive or nice. Sometimes quite old woman and or one or two non-attractive black girls. So am surprised you find this a good spot.

Bois de Bologne is to tricky for me. Don't wanna take that risk.[/QUOTE]I would recomend Niamodel, I dont speak much french but I if you do a good search you always find good looking girls at affordable rates that speaks english. You just ahve to do your homework and its not about getting a quickie just when u are honrny. But after a while you will collect enough phone numbers so you have it all.

That's my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=Clashcityrocker]You must have been looking at the wrong streets my friend.

I live just opposite Arc de Triomphe and I have meet at least 6. 8 smooking hot babes around and on Champs Elysees the last year. All of them students (around 20 yr) looking for some extra cash. Sounds very strange that you have missed them if you live in the neighbour hood?. But sure they are not flashing and screaming out to everyone I'm A HOOKER, you have to look, talk and flirt, these girs are non professionals so its not like for exampel in Amsterdam. But I don't know maybe it depends on your looks, how you dress, what car you drive etc. It have always worked very well for me.

[/QUOTE]I am not stupid. I know exactly where they are. Its very obvious. Black woman hanging around. And sometimes woman (most cases white and mature) waiting in their car. Parked half on the pavement with flashing light on. Can it be more obvious ??

And to make it very clear:
- Rue de Tilsitt. Corner Avenue de Friedland (sometimes avenue Hoch)
- Also on the other side of the circle: Rue de Presbourg (corner avenue D'Iena or Avenue Marceau)

I am not old. My eyes are excellent (don't have glasses). Am driving a sporty car (but this I do walking). Also fancy dressed. Enough to spend: resume: all the features .....

[QUOTE=Kessler69]I am not stupid. I know exactly where they are. Its very obvious. Black woman hanging around. And sometimes woman (most cases white and mature) waiting in their car. Parked half on the pavement with flashing light on. Can it be more obvious ??

And to make it very clear:
- Rue de Tilsitt. Corner Avenue de Friedland (sometimes avenue Hoch)
- Also on the other side of the circle: Rue de Presbourg (corner avenue D'Iena or Avenue Marceau)

I am not old. My eyes are excellent (don't have glasses). Am driving a sporty car (but this I do walking). Also fancy dressed. Enough to spend: resume: all the features .....[/QUOTE]Kessler,

I rest my case its no point going on, I was talking about STUDENTS around 20 yr all of them white or latina, I meet one at McDonalds, another at Sephora and three or four at the club on Champs Elysees etc. I'm not talking about some old age woman who has parked her car at the pavment WITH flashing lights on. *LOL*, have you ever seen that at Champs Elysees?

Happy hunting in your SPORTY car my friend. Now I leave this discussion.

Hi all

I have founded this girl on afrointroduction; easy to contact, easy to meet.

You will find here some pictures.

She is very good for blow job!

[QUOTE=John Thorel]Hi all

I have founded this girl on afrointroduction; easy to contact, easy to meet.

You will find here some pictures.

She is very good for blow job![/QUOTE]Hello Dude,

Please would you mind telling me how i can meet her?

Thanks

One night, I go to the massage parlour of the Rue de la Santé, in the 13th district. It is named "Beauté Quatre Saisons".

After being welcomed by two charming chinese ladies, I take of my clothes and I lay on the massage table. The lady is a real chinese masseuse, she knows exactly the different muscles of the body, she probably went to a massage school in her country.

After one hour, she says it's over, but as I have a hard on, she knows what I will ask. I tell her that I will give her a tip. She laugh, and she starts to take care of my sex.

The sexual massage is very energic, she also knows very well that part of the body. After my ejaculation, she seems pleased.

Before leaving, the lady give me candies. It is definitely a charming place, I will be back.

Adress of the place:
Beauté 4 Saisons
17 rue de la Santé
75013 PARIS

[QUOTE=John Thorel]Hi all

I have founded this girl on afrointroduction; easy to contact, easy to meet.

You will find here some pictures.

She is very good for blow job![/QUOTE]Thanks due,

Will give a try.

Went two weeks ago and had a massage by a tall young girl. massage so so .. no extra's .. not asked and not proposed.

Today went again and had older lady. Very friendly. Very good massage and not shy. beauty and quality don't go together aparantly.

Extra's offered and taken. Very friendly.

[QUOTE=Lycaon]One night, I go to the massage parlour of the Rue de la Santé, in the 13th district. It is named "Beauté Quatre Saisons".

After being welcomed by two charming chinese ladies, I take of my clothes and I lay on the massage table. The lady is a real chinese masseuse, she knows exactly the different muscles of the body, she probably went to a massage school in her country.

After one hour, she says it's over, but as I have a hard on, she knows what I will ask. I tell her that I will give her a tip. She laugh, and she starts to take care of my sex.

The sexual massage is very energic, she also knows very well that part of the body. After my ejaculation, she seems pleased.

Before leaving, the lady give me candies. It is definitely a charming place, I will be back.

Adress of the place:
Beauté 4 Saisons
17 rue de la Santé
75013 PARIS[/QUOTE]How much was the damage?

I have fuck this girl and it was nice.

Her name is Edna.

I don't know more but for 50€ it was correct.

[QUOTE=Kessler69]Went two weeks ago and had a massage by a tall young girl. massage so so .. no extra's .. not asked and not proposed.

Today went again and had older lady. Very friendly. Very good massage and not shy. beauty and quality don't go together aparantly.

Extra's offered and taken. Very friendly.[/QUOTE]Went again Sunday. Nice young girl. PM me for details.

[QUOTE=John Thorel]I have fuck this girl and it was nice.

Her name is Edna.

I don't know more but for 50€ it was correct.[/QUOTE]Where did you find her?

[QUOTE=John Thorel]I have fuck this girl and it was nice.

Her name is Edna.

I don't know more but for 50€ it was correct.[/QUOTE]Do you have her contact?

Thanks

[quote=elkefaylepeep]booked through photogirls, who were unresponsive and so disorganized that... only one of them could compete on looks, but all of them were far superior to angel in service and attitude.

(postscript. when i postesd this review on another site, i got a note from emily at photogirls with an implied threat of legal action against me from them, or angel, or both. i think we have here both a provider and an agency that are best avoided.)

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hey man - i don't know what your budget is but i'm assuming if you went through an organization you probably paid the same amount for the website i'm 'bout to reference. try [url]www.escortnews.eu[/url]

i had the pleasure of visiting paris last christmas and i met up with marry and largo (both from russia). booked for an hour and they were open minded and absolutely fantastic. however, i was more nice and open minded 'bout the idea of having a relaxed atmosphere. they came in - i offered them a drink, turned on some music, chit chat for 'bout 30 minutes and just showed them around the apartment i was staying in. even went out to the balcony to have a smoke together. i think because i did that they felt comfortable around me and didn't mind being more adventurous. of course on their website it indicates (not for all the ladies) whether they offer daty, anal, bbbj, bbfs, etc ... but the story tends to change occasionally. luckily mine weren't but marry didn't say no to anal but she asked if i minded not doing it that night due to some reason (wasn't listening ... too busy checking out her body). so just because i didn't want to break the already awkward situation i said it's cool and moved on. open to touching everywhere and actually offered to do multi within the hour span. both stayed longer ('bout two hours each) then the designated time and when i asked after the hour had been up if they didn't had to go they said it was fine and no real rush. they told me they enjoyed my company and didn't mind hitting the sack one last time before heading out. lol

was able to obtain marry's personal phone number and before flying out of paris i actually got to meet her three times outside her work and of course got to play.

take it easy - stay open and have a good time with them. remember, they are there to pleasure you but only physically. if they make you finish then they've done what you've asked them to do. but you can lighten the mood and be a gentleman to them (treat them like you're their boyfriend) and they'll treat you like you actually are their boyfriend (gfe experience anyone?). just my thought.

good hunting peeps

[quote=elkefaylepeep] ... just more stalling. 10 minutes, and the drink arrives, and emily departs. then time to drink the drink. then she needs to smoke a cigarette. then she wants some music, so she starts flipping through the channels on the tv. i tell her there's not going to be any music on there, but she has to flip through every channel three times anyway. finally, i go to the clock radio and tune in a decent station.

we finally got our clothes off more than 30 minutes into the session, and here's the rules: no kissing (it's too personal), no real daty (she doesn't like to have her clit stimulated, so touching her pussy even on the outside is very limited), no bbbj (even though i brought a recent, clean aim test with me), and no anal. there followed a mechanical and uninspired cbj + cfs session, about as far from a pse as i've ever had. ... [/quote]

elkefaylepeep, sorry to hear about your bad play. here are a few rules that i use in order to minimize the chances of bad quality :

1° my personal experience is that when i have to pay the fee upfront, then 50% of the time it's ok, and 50% it is crap. when i pay later, it is nearly 100% ok. so i always try to pay later, but with fsu girls, this is rarely possible, at least in europe.

2° i never book an unkown girl for 2 hours. i book for 1 hour, and i tell her that if i like her, i will extend to 2 hours or more.

3° i tell her that my clock doesn't start until we get undressed. once a brazilian terma girl wanted to count the time including our waiting time in the staircases. when we arrived in the room, i made sure that she called the manager to tell him that the session only started now.

4° if she is not performing, then i tell her that i will complain to the agency and then make a report on the internet forums.

5° i do not book the girls with my usual telephone. it is easy to buy a rechargeable telephone card. russian thugs do not need to know any of my personnal details.

i am interested in practical rules that isg forum members use in order to avoid these bad experiences.

regards. b.b.

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It would be great to have some FKK but I do not believe it.

Paris is the worst place in Europe for mongering. I live in Paris.
The best experiences I have had, it was with Brazilian grecently arrived in Paris. I found them on Vivastreet website.

I am for the next 2 days at Biarritz. The best thing is to go to the Spanish border on the side of San Sebastian. It's cheaper and at least you can talk with her before deciding.

Dear members,

Some queries about mature Arab ladies in Paris. I have been told that they are in 4 areas:

1. Boulevard Barbes, near the Paribas bank or strolling between the Barbes and Chateau Rogue metros.

2. The vans on either Rue Macdonald or Rue Rubieres.

3. Boulevard Clichy near La Fourche metro.

4. Rue de Budapest.

I love chubby ladies, but especially mature chubby Arab ladies.

Can anyone confirm this? And are these areas my best bet for finding them? I'd appreciate any information on them.

Thanks,

Pensive

[QUOTE=Pensive1]Some queries about mature Arab ladies in Paris. I have been told that they are in 4 areas:

1. Boulevard Barbes, near the Paribas bank or strolling between the Barbes and Chateau Rogue metros.[/quote]

For sure, you might find some in that area. But I don't like going there during daytime. So I suggest to avoid going there at night.
Looking for arab girls in that area can mean looking for trouble.

[quote]2. The vans on either Rue Macdonald or Rue Rubieres.

3. Boulevard Clichy near La Fourche metro.

4. Rue de Budapest. [/quote]May be.

But these spots were active several years ago. Nowayday, there are'nt many girls in that area. Rue de Budapest (near Gare St Lazare) is a place where activity has stopped about 10 years ago. May be you can find ladies here, but they will be over 65YO. But if this is what you are looking for, then you will be pleased.

[u]Rue de Budapest:[/u]
15 years ago, one could find black african girls. They were offering service in awfully dirty rooms in the same street. Service was terrible they were really eager to finish as soon as possible. A very bad experience.

[quote]I love chubby ladies, but especially mature chubby Arab ladies. [/quote]

You can find many of them in Rue St Denis. Most are over 45YO. Some of them are even over 65YO... When will the setup retirement plans for working girls in France?

Mercy for the poor granies!

Prices are high and service is poor. expect to pay 60 EUR for 5 to 10mn.

I haven't hired a girl rue St Denis for ages.

I just pass by to check what is happening every now and then.

Many thanks for that, Chinalover.

[QUOTE=Chinagirl Lover]For sure, you might find some in that area. But I don't like going there during daytime. So I suggest to avoid going there at night. Looking for arab girls in that area can mean looking for trouble.[/QUOTE]I would never go out in search of ladies at night time no matter which city I am in.

[quote]But these spots were active several years ago. Nowayday, there are'nt many girls in that area. Rue de Budapest (near Gare St Lazare) is a place where activity has stopped about 10 years ago.[/QUOTE]It is so disappointing to read this. I was really hoping to easily find some very mature and fat Maghrebine ladies

I visited Saint Denis once in May 2007 and saw many mature French, black and asian but didn't see any 'ripe and round' Algerians or Morroccans to choose from.

I think my situation is basically hopeless now.

Avoid this girl : [url]http://www.escort-annonce.com/escort/MELISSA_OW#[/url] . She is unreliable. I tried to do her today, and she was not there.
She told me to come at her hotel (Ibis Gare du Nord, close to the Chateau Landon metro), and to wait at the 5th floor in front of the elevator.
She never came. I waited 50 minutes, sent many text messages, to no avail.
I lost my time and the taxi money. Craps!

Going to Paris for a week, can someone recommend good websites to find girls?

Thank you

Just getting around to posting, was visiting in March and on my way back to the Meridian Hotel near the Concorde Lafayette about 1000, I was propositioned by a "woman of a certain age" as I was approached the hotel. She was not my type, but it did peak my curiosity so I did a loop around the area with no luck, so I headed back to the hotel.

Why is it always when you give up the search, voila you find what you are looking for? I find a young-ish French African lady standing outside of my hotel. Emma or something. She starts at 300, I say pas pour moi merci. She says how much. I should have said 50, but I said 100 and we settled at 110. Up to the room, she was just OK, nothing great but very adequate. She did try to talk me up for extras through out the session, but I just laughed and she relented and did what she was made to do. I would not repeat.

[QUOTE=Astor]Going to Paris for a week, can someone recommend good websites to find girls?

Thank you[/QUOTE]The classic site for finding incall/outcall providers is niamodel.com. But, be prepared that the prices are very high. Typically it will be 150-200E for an incall (not necessarily lasting one hour) and 250+E for an hour's escort.

[QUOTE=Priamos]The classic site for finding incall/outcall providers is niamodel.com. But, be prepared that the prices are very high. Typically it will be 150-200E for an incall (not necessarily lasting one hour) and 250+E for an hour's escort.[/QUOTE]If you read French you can read reviews and advices on escortfr forum (just google escortfr and you'll find it).

Lat Sunday I tried one of the adds again you see outside in the streets.

Chinese lady of 39. Small and sporty showed up gave me a proper massage. We didn't even settle for the price but she left it up to me.
She mentioned when entering my apartment she was "malade". Basically having her period. She gave a me a fantastic covered blow job however,., and cuddled and french kissed.

Maybe I should do full fuck next time. Don't know for sure yet.

On my way to Gare de l'Est on Friday, I was walking east on the Bd. St. Denis. On the south side of the street, on the block between rue du Faubourg St. Denis and Blvd. Strasbourg, there were 6-8 Chinese 30-something sws (perhaps 1-2 were Korean), all chatting away and cautiously eyeing me as I walked by.

Had I been staying longer, I would have stopped to inquire about prices, etc. This crowd is a bit old for me, but some were not bad at all. Note that they were only on this block, on this side of the street. And it was 11 AM!!

[QUOTE=MegaPoint]On my way to Gare de l'Est on Friday, I was walking east on the Bd. St. Denis. On the south side of the street, on the block between rue du Faubourg St. Denis and Blvd. Strasbourg, there were 6-8 Chinese 30-something sws (perhaps 1-2 were Korean), all chatting away and cautiously eyeing me as I walked by.

Had I been staying longer, I would have stopped to inquire about prices, etc. This crowd is a bit old for me, but some were not bad at all. Note that they were only on this block, on this side of the street. And it was 11 AM!![/QUOTE]


Its a sad reflection of how "de-sexualised" Paris has become....relying on aging Chinese women for our sexual needs........a graet shame!


Its still a punting graveyard unless you're happy to spend 200E plus.....


B

[QUOTE=Camieleke]Last week I went to a MP in Paris run by Moroccon girls.

They are quiet beautifull and the massage was very good.

I think they like to see naked men but don't offer nothing more, not even a HJ.
Price = 50 €/hour.

They are on Place de Rungis 13, inside a small shopping mall.

ANother MP I visited on rue d' Alesia is run by a Chinese mamasan with 2 nice girls. Price = 48 €, Handjob is possible for 20 €.

The name of the place is Alesia Beauté.

C.[/QUOTE]Anyone aware of other MP's in Pairs with Moroccon girls?

Thanks,

Bubbles77

[QUOTE=Bubbles77]Anyone aware of other MP's in Pairs with Moroccon girls?

Thanks,

Bubbles77[/QUOTE]Yep you can go at "L'Institut", it's place Jeanne d'Arc Paris 13th district.

You'll find a couple of Moroccon girls, one of them being Maya and provides good service with BBBJ option.

A decent alternative to chinese massages.

[QUOTE=Osanowo]Yep you can go at "L'Institut", it's place Jeanne d'Arc Paris 13th district.

You'll find a couple of Moroccon girls, one of them being Maya and provides good service with BBBJ option.

A decent alternative to chinese massages.[/QUOTE]do you have the street number since can't find it by "googling" only found chinese MP in same street.

[QUOTE=Kessler69]do you have the street number since can't find it by "googling" only found chinese MP in same street.[/QUOTE]Yep, 19 place Jeanne d'arc.

[QUOTE=Osanowo]Yep, 19 place Jeanne d'arc.[/QUOTE]Thanks Osanowo .

I will have a look this weekend.

Came at my place for the second time. Fun woman. Who talks a lot.

Fantastic oral skills.

And she loved the fuck also.

[QUOTE=Kessler69]Came at my place for the second time. Fun woman. Who talks a lot.

Fantastic oral skills.

And she loved the fuck also.[/QUOTE]

Giving more info wouldnt hurt !
How can this lady be contacted ?

[QUOTE=Onadlos]Giving more info wouldnt hurt !

How can this lady be contacted ?[/QUOTE]PM me if interested.

Hi guys,

Staying at Renaissance Trocadero and looking for nice massage with HJ or BJ. Not French speaking and not familiar with Paris so not an easy time for me.

Thanks for any tips!

Happy hunting,
EK

Hello all
My lady and I will be in Paris near mid to end August. We're looking for a place with live sex where audience can play with each other as well. Not really interested in swapping. Any assistance greatly appreciated. PM me or post on here
Thanks
Cap

Paris in the summer is enough to make any guy horney and it certainly worked for me so I headed for the Bellville metro station.

When I arrived, I realised I had fogotten the condoms, so invested 2 Euros at the machine in the metro station. Emerging into the twilight, it quickly became apparent there were a lot of police round the station - it appears the African traders, who sell stuff round the station, had had a disagreement. There were a few girls round, but I did not fancy trying with the police round so I headed for a bar to watch the footy.

Half an hour later the police were gone and there were more Chinese girls around, so I went for a stroll. A girl who was prettier than most caught my eye so I went to chat to her. We settled for E60 in her flat, which is a bit over the top, but she was better than most girls in this area. She asked me to walk ahead of her until we turned off to the side streets (plenty of people about and I did not feel threatened), then she walked with me.

Her English was non-existent and French very limited. I speak some Mandarin. I'm a bit rusty, but managed to converse. Her name is Xia, 35 and comes from Xi'an (of terracota warriors fame) and was staying in france for 6 weeks. Her flat was on the 5th floor in a terrace block. The flat was tiny, with the bed in the kitchen, but very clean and tidy. The bed had a fresh towel on it.

We stripped and had a lovely cuddle, which made me really horney. She was small, slim with size B breasts and a lovely figure. She laid out on the bed and slipped one of my condoms on me. I was ready to go and she was very wet so we started sex straight away. She was very responsive and I enjoyed the sex.

We had another cuddle before she cleaned me up and gave me a great massage. Although we did not do anything adventurous it was a wonderful session and I really enjoyed the company of this lovely girl.

[QUOTE=El Kapitan]Hi guys,

Staying at Renaissance Trocadero and looking for nice massage with HJ or BJ. Not French speaking and not familiar with Paris so not an easy time for me.

Thanks for any tips!

Happy hunting,

EK[/QUOTE]Southernmost end of Rue Raynouard, just across from the Maison de Radio.

Hello fellow mongers,

I'm visiting Paris for the first time next week for 7 days, staying near CDG metro and hoping for some direction, I'll rent a car and got my GPS so coordinates would be highly appreciated if not then a useful info about the metro stop is enough.

no french speaking and looking for a great happy ending massage or where to find some nice Moroccan chubby.

No PM for me so I guess I'll try me shot with tafb2323 g mail

Thanks in advance

Ex

[QUOTE=Excellence]Hello fellow mongers,

I'm visiting Paris for the first time next week for 7 days, staying near CDG metro and hoping for some direction, I'll rent a car and got my GPS so coordinates would be highly appreciated if not then a useful info about the metro stop is enough.

no french speaking and looking for a great happy ending massage or where to find some nice Moroccan chubby.

No PM for me so I guess I'll try me shot with tafb2323 g mail

Thanks in advance

Ex[/QUOTE]Hey Ex, my advice would be to leave the car and just take the train to Pair from CDG. It's real easy and you can get a day pass for the metro in Paris while you monger around. You will notice that a lot of MP location references on the forum refer to metro stations.

Not to mention parking is a ***** in Paris and driving after a few "pop's" is a No-No....

Happy hunting.

Bubbles 77

I will make a trip to Paris at the beginning of September. And by reading the posts here it promises not too much fun, I assume. It seems to be difficult meeting a beautiful young lady with good performance at reasonable prices. I am not interested in asians or chubby girls from marocco. Instead I prefer slim, tall girls from EE, Africa or South America.

On the other hand Franck Ribery must have had more luck finding this stunning Zahia D. Somewhere in Paris.

Any ideas from the auditorium where to find real stunners with take-away option or a reliable escort website? I can't believe that mongers in the capital of love have to settle with cheap, ugly and old Chinese women in MPs.

Preferrably I would appreciate any upscale club where you can see in advance what you get and take away a lady. Or is there any upscale hotel where you can find pros or semi-pros at the bar?

Thanks in advance.

Tacitus

[QUOTE=Tacitus]I will make a trip to Paris at the beginning of September. And by reading the posts here it promises not too much fun, I assume. It seems to be difficult meeting a beautiful young lady with good performance at reasonable prices. I am not interested in asians or chubby girls from marocco. Instead I prefer slim, tall girls from EE, Africa or South America.

On the other hand Franck Ribery must have had more luck finding this stunning Zahia D. Somewhere in Paris.

Any ideas from the auditorium where to find real stunners with take-away option or a reliable escort website? I can't believe that mongers in the capital of love have to settle with cheap, ugly and old Chinese women in MPs.

Preferrably I would appreciate any upscale club where you can see in advance what you get and take away a lady. Or is there any upscale hotel where you can find pros or semi-pros at the bar?

Thanks in advance.

Tacitus[/QUOTE]
If you find a 16 year old girl, highly siliconed, dyed, "stunning", you will find plenty of them abvailable for 1000Euros+ in any club near the Champs Elysees...

As for your arrogant comment on "ugly, cheap and old Chinese women", how do you know? Have you been there before? I have, and if you do your home work, (of course, if you speak French, you have a better chance to find info on excellent French soeaking websites, there are, as always, gems to be found.
But don't couint on me to tell you, in any case you would not believe in what somebody who may like "old, ugly etc...) say.

Hi

Can someone advise where I'd be able to locate older slim ladies 45+ & also (But not at the same time) Moroccan, Algerian, Tunisian slim girls 18- 30 years.

I am looking for 69, oral without completion in mouth.

I speak French very badly.

Hope somebody can point me in the right direction.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Uk Saf]Hi

Can someone advise where I'd be able to locate older slim ladies 45+ & also (But not at the same time) Moroccan, Algerian, Tunisian slim girls 18- 30 years.

I am looking for 69, oral without completion in mouth.

I speak French very badly.

Hope somebody can point me in the right direction.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Hello,

I'm parisian and I love escort girls. You can find what do you want on 2 websites : [url]WWW.NIAMODEL.COM[/url] (beware there a lot transgirls pink color !!).
You can see live connected and another one.

[url]WWW.ESCORTRENDEZVOUS.COM[/url] (no transgirls).

Please send a private message if you want some additionel information.

Regards.

Have been looking at NiaModel to plan for my visit to Paris this fall. Can someone please tell me what these abbreviations stand for? Many thanks for the help.

fell nature
fell protegee
FK
sodo
uro
DT

[QUOTE=Europunter]Have been looking at NiaModel to plan for my visit to Paris this fall. Can someone please tell me what these abbreviations stand for? Many thanks for the help.

fell nature
fell protegee
FK
sodo
uro
DT[/QUOTE]

fell nature = BBJ
fell protegee = CBJ
FK = French KISS
sodo = A-LEVEL
uro = pissing on you
DT = not sure, maybe Deep Throat

Good luck with the local providers...

So nobody has to share anything.

Is it that dead in Paris?

[QUOTE=Kessler69]So nobody has to share anything.

Is it that dead in Paris?[/QUOTE]That reminds me of an old joke form soviet union times, when a visitor to Moscow gave the concierge at the hotel a generous tip, whispering in his ear "Where is the nearest, really exciting nightclub? " and the concierge whispered back: "In Helsinki".

Ok, today the opposite is the case, Moscow and St Petersburg are really exciting. I have been there. And Helsinki is dead. It seems, that Paris is in deep coma at least.

I got bashed here for asking for younger, fresher girls (without silicone and over 18 BTW), after reading about 40yo Chinese ladies in Paris in this forum.

But as far as I could read here there are none, at least not outside the escort business which is oftenly very disappointing given the actual power of photoshop, which could provide even me with the body of Brad Pitt in "Troja".

I will be in Paris in about one week and hopefully report better news than that the nearest exciting night club is in Barcelona.

If somebody could provide any useful information except of niamodel.com it will be thankfully appreciated.

Regards,

Tacitus

Just a report warning for other bro.

Last month when I was walking alone on the street right infront of the mulin rouge, there was a guy come up and asking questions: are you tourist? Coming alone? And then he said he is going to lead me to his place which stated clearly on a paper that he showing me, free entrance with one drink, and massage for 50 euro and 100 euro for "further action"

I know its quite naive for me to believe it, but its my first time in paris. I follow him back to his bar, and the girl inside was dragging me to a rough lap dance immediately when I get in the bar(no other customer inside), for about 15 minutes of lap dance, and the bill charge was 380 euro. (I never ask to stop the lap dance, as I was thinking about the price on the paper the guy shown me is reasonable, so I think lap dance would be too.)

I refuse to pay, and end up having a bad arguement, after about 15 minutes of tense arguement, I decided to pay 250euro and end the hassle.

Just a warning for all bro and take some precaution when entering bars/strip clubs in that area of moulin rouge

The scam club I went was right infront moulin rouge, 2 shop beside Starbuck

[QUOTE=Hiller]Just a report warning for other bro.

Last month when I was walking alone on the street right infront of the mulin rouge, there was a guy come up and asking questions: are you tourist? Coming alone? And then he said he is going to lead me to his place which stated clearly on a paper that he showing me, free entrance with one drink, and massage for 50 euro and 100 euro for "further action"

I know its quite naive for me to believe it, but its my first time in paris. I follow him back to his bar, and the girl inside was dragging me to a rough lap dance immediately when I get in the bar(no other customer inside), for about 15 minutes of lap dance, and the bill charge was 380 euro. (I never ask to stop the lap dance, as I was thinking about the price on the paper the guy shown me is reasonable, so I think lap dance would be too.)

I refuse to pay, and end up having a bad arguement, after about 15 minutes of tense arguement, I decided to pay 250euro and end the hassle.

Just a warning for all bro and take some precaution when entering bars/strip clubs in that area of moulin rouge

The scam club I went was right infront moulin rouge, 2 shop beside Starbuck[/QUOTE]

Lots of those types of clubs. I pretended I didn't speak english when they approached me. It is clear that these clubs survive by nailing the unexpected tourist. Be aware.

[QUOTE=Hiller]Just a report warning for other bro.

Last month when I was walking alone on the street right infront of the mulin rouge, there was a guy come up and asking questions: are you tourist? Coming alone? And then he said he is going to lead me to his place which stated clearly on a paper that he showing me, free entrance with one drink, and massage for 50 euro and 100 euro for "further action"

I know its quite naive for me to believe it, but its my first time in paris. I follow him back to his bar, and the girl inside was dragging me to a rough lap dance immediately when I get in the bar(no other customer inside), for about 15 minutes of lap dance, and the bill charge was 380 euro. (I never ask to stop the lap dance, as I was thinking about the price on the paper the guy shown me is reasonable, so I think lap dance would be too.)

I refuse to pay, and end up having a bad arguement, after about 15 minutes of tense arguement, I decided to pay 250euro and end the hassle.

Just a warning for all bro and take some precaution when entering bars/strip clubs in that area of moulin rouge

The scam club I went was right infront moulin rouge, 2 shop beside Starbuck[/QUOTE]
It is a well documented scam, affecting ALL clubs in the Pigalle area. Exactly like in Soho, London.
Lots of warnings in all relevant forums...
Those who had the time to do some homework would not get caught....

[QUOTE=Tacitus]That reminds me of an old joke form soviet union times, when a visitor to Moscow gave the concierge at the hotel a generous tip, whispering in his ear "Where is the nearest, really exciting nightclub? " and the concierge whispered back: "In Helsinki".

Ok, today the opposite is the case, Moscow and St Petersburg are really exciting. I have been there. And Helsinki is dead. It seems, that Paris is in deep coma at least.

I got bashed here for asking for younger, fresher girls (without silicone and over 18 BTW), after reading about 40yo Chinese ladies in Paris in this forum.

But as far as I could read here there are none, at least not outside the escort business which is oftenly very disappointing given the actual power of photoshop, which could provide even me with the body of Brad Pitt in "Troja".

I will be in Paris in about one week and hopefully report better news than that the nearest exciting night club is in Barcelona.

If somebody could provide any useful information except of niamodel.com it will be thankfully appreciated.

Regards,

Tacitus[/QUOTE]
You got bashed, and rightly so, because you made derogatory comments on other's choices, and this without even having been to the place.. And also because you showed utter stupidity in mixing "romance" and mongering...Hope you understand the difference, but i am not sure, that might be too subtle to you....
Paris is still the romantic capital of the world, so bring your girlfriend along, and she will love it. But it is definitievely not a good mongering place.
And, BTW, get back to your geography, the closest club is certainly not in Barcelona (some 700 miles away) but in Belgium (150 miles away), or even FKKs in West Germany...

Why don't you skip Paris and go elsewhere, both the city and you will feel much better...

[QUOTE=Dreams]You got bashed, and rightly so, because you made derogatory comments on other's choices, and this without even having been to the place.. And also because you showed utter stupidity in mixing "romance" and mongering...Hope you understand the difference, but i am not sure, that might be too subtle to you....
Paris is still the romantic capital of the world, so bring your girlfriend along, and she will love it. But it is definitievely not a good mongering place.
And, BTW, get back to your geography, the closest club is certainly not in Barcelona (some 700 miles away) but in Belgium (150 miles away), or even FKKs in West Germany...

Why don't you skip Paris and go elsewhere, both the city and you will feel much better...[/QUOTE]


I've seen Paris 5 year ago and by reading your post it seems it is still a wasteland for those looking to find quality w h o r e s and some action. I've recently got offer of working a couple of months in either Paris or Madrid as I do not want my nuts to explode for the lack of action I think I will chose Madrid after re reading the post here.

[QUOTE=Strike 69]I've seen Paris 5 year ago and by reading your post it seems it is still a wasteland for those looking to find quality w h o r e s and some action. I've recently got offer of working a couple of months in either Paris or Madrid as I do not want my nuts to explode for the lack of action I think I will chose Madrid after re reading the post here.[/QUOTE]
If your priority is mongering, Madrid is definitively a better choice. But Paris, has a lot more to offer than mongering...As I said, romance can be found, if you have the time, and the will... but this is not a topic for this forum, I guess.

[QUOTE=Dreams]If your priority is mongering, Madrid is definitively a better choice. But Paris, has a lot more to offer than mongering...As I said, romance can be found, if you have the time, and the will... but this is not a topic for this forum, I guess.[/QUOTE]

I want to mongering and have sex with quality paid girls in my free time after work hours, and I do not think I can enjoy that in Paris based on reports here (and personal experience several years ago with paid sex in France).

I speak French though not sure about how easy (or difficult) is to have sex with French girls (freebies) these days because I have not been there in a long time (several years). Back then it was not too difficult to make a pretty French woman (non pro) to spread her legs.

[QUOTE=Strike 69]I want to mongering and have sex with quality paid girls in my free time after work hours, and I do not think I can enjoy that in Paris based on reports here (and personal experience several years ago with paid sex in France).

I speak French though not sure about how easy (or difficult) is to have sex with French girls (freebies) these days because I have not been there in a long time (several years). Back then it was not too difficult to make a pretty French woman (non pro) to spread her legs.[/QUOTE]
Can't answer the last bit of your question, since my personal circumstances do not invovle such activites.
If you speak French, you will have loads of info, on the French forum y o u p p i e . net.

But again, unless you pay big bucks for international escorts, you will not find in paris what you are looking for. Go to Madrid.

[QUOTE=Dreams]Can't answer the last bit of your question, since my personal circumstances do not invovle such activites.
If you speak French, you will have loads of info, on the French forum y o u p p i e . net.

But again, unless you pay big bucks for international escorts, you will not find in paris what you are looking for. Go to Madrid.[/QUOTE]


Thanks for the info regarding the forum

[QUOTE=Osanowo]Yep you can go at "L'Institut", it's place Jeanne d'Arc Paris 13th district.

You'll find a couple of Moroccon girls, one of them being Maya and provides good service with BBBJ option.[/QUOTE]

Does this place still exist? If so, can you say what a massage with BBBJ costs?

[QUOTE=Strike 69]I've seen Paris 5 year ago and by reading your post it seems it is still a wasteland for those looking to find quality w h o r e s and some action. I've recently got offer of working a couple of months in either Paris or Madrid as I do not want my nuts to explode for the lack of action I think I will chose Madrid after re reading the post here.[/QUOTE]Well, answering all hostile comments about my first request I have to report that the negative perspectives regarding mongering in Paris are definitely true. I had expected nothing else, it was the same situation as during my last trip a couple of years ago.

The service at niamodel seems to work, although I was not lucky. The girl I called refused my request for an outcall because it was too late. I refused her offer to come to her place. Am I silly? Ok, it was at 1 am, but she indicated on niamodel she would provide service till 2 am. And the other phone number did not answer. So what, I kept my money.

On the other. Romantic. Side, there are definitley more pretty and well dressed girls on the streets of Paris than in Rome or Madrid.

So Paris is for "window-shopping" only.

Regards,

Tacitus

Hello,

Sorry my english it's no very good.

I'm french, I live in Paris.

The girl is situed in boulogne billancour 92 forest West Paris.

Attention there are a lot of transexual 40e 30e BJ 20e.

Forest vincenne 94 rue de paris sex 40e or 30e BJ 20e.

The night only the days the people little.

Paris center rue strasbourg st denis metro 8 and 4 50-80e

The student french are going to bruxelle or amsterdam or la jonquera spanish.

Kiss,

Good bye

[QUOTE=Filou]Does this place still exist? If so, can you say what a massage with BBBJ costs?[/QUOTE]Yes, this place (L'Institut) still exists. I went there on Monday. The only girls I saw were the receptionist and my masseuse. Both Chinese. So I don't know whether there are any Moroccan girls there.

The massage was 45 euros. She then offered HR for an extra 30 euros and BJ for an extra 60 euros. When I said I wasn't interested in the BJ, she dropped the price to an extra 50 euros.

Ask for a downstairs room. The upstairs ones have a massage table whilst the downstairs ones have a mattress on the floor. They are also bigger and had music. So it was a better atmosphere (for me, anyway).

I would think that you need to be able to speak French (although maybe sign language would be possible). The girl I saw didn't speak English and her French was fairly limited (although she said she'd lived in Paris for six years).

I also passed two other places on my way here. One on Rue Jeanne d'Arc and one in the square. The one on the square looked more like a lady's salon so might not be that interesting. The other one was a Chinese place, quite big with a nice shop front. I didn't try either.

This girl from attached ad is now on tour in Paris and she is a major scam artist who will run away with your money. I got scammed for 500 euros by this girl, and i have never been scammed before. Think its best to stay away from this girl! There is more info in the slovak forum and also other directories on the net with reviews of people who has been scammed.

[quote=Atiffany Net]Hi, first I like to introduce myself

I am an elegant young lady and I am available for your enjoyment.
I just turned 18 years and I offering you my services as independent escort lady.

I can travel to every major city in Europe and worldwide.

Please visit my website for more informations about me and to see my photos.
I looking forward to meet you soon!

Kisses,

Tiffany

[url]http://www.atiffany.net/[/url][/quote]

Yes, I am really in Paris right now doing city tour.

And don't believe those fake reports about scamming!

I know who is behind this!

It's a guy who was crazy into me and I dumped him.

Now he is using many fake emails and different forums accounts to make bad impression about me.

So don't believe him! He is the scammer!

If you are in Paris, you can meet me here and you will see that you will be satisfied.

I have many clients who meeting me again and again over 2 years and they are all happy and wrote possitive reviews about me.

And somewhere I still have the email from this fucking crazy guy where he wrote me that he will do EXACTLY this, that he will SPAM the internet about bad reviews about me. I will find that email and post it here.

Tiffany

[QUOTE=Perolav]This girl from attached ad is now on tour in Paris and she is a major scam artist who will run away with your money. I got scammed for 500 euros by this girl, and i have never been scammed before. Think its best to stay away from this girl! There is more info in the slovak forum and also other directories on the net with reviews of people who has been scammed.[/QUOTE]Hello,

I'm fellow monger who mongering for a while time in paris and surbubs.

Yo can forgot all the streets in paris Rue saint denis, Now they are old hookers and now they have been disappeared into the street.

Now you have 2 major website:

.escort annonce, escort guide tv: Those websites contains a

The independant and escort girl in paris.

I prefer escort annonce because it's much simplier to use it.

- 2 live website:

Niamodel and escort rendez vous.

Those are different because you can see live the connection of the hooker and you call it live.

Niamodel you have transgirls in majority.

Escort rendez vous it's only escort girl and independant women.

- 1 ad's website.

Missive you can see some ad's for escort girl, couple, transgirls, bdsm, sauna massages.

There are lot of scam and rubbish in this site. So be careful!.

You can contact me by PM if you want further information.

Regards

[QUOTE=Guitounech]Hello,

I'm fellow monger who mongering for a while time in paris and surbubs.

Yo can forgot all the streets in paris Rue saint denis, Now they are old hookers and now they have been disappeared into the street.

Now you have 2 major website:

.escort annonce, escort guide tv: Those websites contains a

The independant and escort girl in paris.

I prefer escort annonce because it's much simplier to use it.

- 2 live website:

Niamodel and escort rendez vous.

Those are different because you can see live the connection of the hooker and you call it live.

Niamodel you have transgirls in majority.

Escort rendez vous it's only escort girl and independant women.

- 1 ad's website.

Missive you can see some ad's for escort girl, couple, transgirls, bdsm, sauna massages.

There are lot of scam and rubbish in this site. So be careful!.

You can contact me by PM if you want further information.

Regards[/QUOTE]
...there is no better site than youppie net . A forum like ISg, with all discussions about mongering in France, Belgium and neighbouring countries. wWith regards to Paris, you will have infos about massage places, street scene, escorts, clubs, bars... etc...

[QUOTE=Perolav]This girl from attached ad is now on tour in Paris and she is a major scam artist who will run away with your money. I got scammed for 500 euros by this girl, and i have never been scammed before. Think its best to stay away from this girl! There is more info in the slovak forum and also other directories on the net with reviews of people who has been scammed.[/QUOTE]I have see Atiffany in Vienna, she was wonderful and I have enjoyed her a lot, she looks very pretty very slim and fit body, i had OWO sex many times, and I tried Anal but she wasn't ready as her ass was soooooo tight, best way fucking her was doggy style, and finally she looks better than the photos in the website, i will see her again for sure. and guys who like petite girls she is the one.

Moski

[QUOTE=Moski]I have see Atiffany in Vienna, she was wonderful and I have enjoyed her a lot, she looks very pretty very slim and fit body, i had OWO sex many times, and I tried Anal but she wasn't ready as her ass was soooooo tight, best way fucking her was doggy style, and finally she looks better than the photos in the website, i will see her again for sure. and guys who like petite girls she is the one.

Moski[/QUOTE]
...and no way to check if the person behind this new post is not.....Atiffany herself....

[QUOTE=Dreams]...and no way to check if the person behind this new post is not.....Atiffany herself....[/QUOTE]You are very wrong.

Moski is the REAL guy. After we meet in Vienna, we chat sometimes online.

And I just told him what fucking things going on here on forum that a spammer is writing fake reviews.

Moski was so nice that he agreed to post the real review about our meeting.

I will be in Paris for a weekend next month and am looking for a 2 hour incall. Am aware that Paris is one of the most expensive mongering spots in Europe, however, I had a great experience there two years ago -- well worth the cost for me.

This thread directed me to escort-rendez-vous.com- Has anyone had any experience with this website. There are loads of women posting here - is it legitimate?

Report on any experience with this site would be very much appreciated.

Thanks,

EP

[QUOTE=Dreams]...and no way to check if the person behind this new post is not.....Atiffany herself....[/QUOTE]Well if you want to make sure its not Atiffany write (Moski) I can speak you in Arabic to clear this matter, again she is a good fuck and not a scam. Up to you

Moski

Perolav, you say you have been scammed by aTiffany, could you explain more about this? I was planning to see her.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Perolav]This girl from attached ad is now on tour in Paris and she is a major scam artist who will run away with your money. I got scammed for 500 euros by this girl, and i have never been scammed before. Think its best to stay away from this girl! There is more info in the slovak forum and also other directories on the net with reviews of people who has been scammed.[/QUOTE]

Since you are such a big giver to this forum with no reviews, I think this is just Tiffanys way of finfing out who is who. I don't give a damn, she took my money, there is no details to share if you had 2 cents of comon sense.

[QUOTE=Nacho Grande]Perolav, you say you have been scammed by aTiffany, could you explain more about this? I was planning to see her.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

That's not true, I'm a french guy who was planning to see her on tour, so I did a google search on her and found your posts.

But thanks anyway.

[QUOTE=Perolav]Since you are such a big giver to this forum with no reviews, I think this is just Tiffanys way of finfing out who is who. I don't give a damn, she took my money, there is no details to share if you had 2 cents of comon sense.[/QUOTE]

No reason to comments the shits here.

Moski is my real client. And I am real too.

This is my last post, I will not waste more energy on this.

I know that behind all this spam & scam is one guy who hate me for personal reasons. He is very internet wise, using many accounts on different forums, and he is smart so he can look like "serious" under many nicknames.

I am back in Paris right now (10. November) because last tour I had many satisfied clients who wanted to meet again. And this time I am here with my girlfriend Mirka. So we can do threesome (duo) meetings also.

More photos of Mirka are at [url]http://www.Atiffany.net[/url]

Kiss,

Tiffany

Is there a live sex theatre in Paris?

[quote=ribotascot]is there a live sex theatre in paris?[/quote]
i don't think there is anymore.
what you can find are "peep shows" where, every other hour or so, a couple will perform for 10 minutes.
there are 2 decent "erotic theaters", called "show girls" and "chochotte", but they are girls only. show girls is quite nice actually, girls are performing full strip, frontal nudity, wide open, and then move on each spectator's lap. some can be touched more than others.. lesbian acts are being performed on your lap..

.. with the crisis and it becomes easier and easier to catch black girls in the street and to invite them for a drink. Most of the time, they will ask for money before to follow you at home. Many girls have no papers and no possibility to work. They are hungry for cash and for a white sponsor. If you like black mat...

[QUOTE=Europunter]I will be in Paris for a weekend next month and am looking for a 2 hour incall. Am aware that Paris is one of the most expensive mongering spots in Europe, however, I had a great experience there two years ago -- well worth the cost for me.

This thread directed me to escort-rendez-vous.com- Has anyone had any experience with this website. There are loads of women posting here - is it legitimate?

Report on any experience with this site would be very much appreciated.

Thanks,

EP[/QUOTE]
Yes, it is a legitimate site, presenting both independents and agency girls. Beware though, because it can be hit and miss. Here are my recommendations.
* Go for the Russian or Polish girls. Avoid the French, Romanian and other West Europeans.
* Read the customer reviews. If the review is long and argumented, then it is a true one.
* Girls with no reviews at all can be good : they could be beginners. I was very lucky once with such a beginner.
Prices are 200 to 250€ an hour.
Regards.

About 5pm I spotted two or three unappetising elderly fat hookers in full french hooker outfit, seems like they start at 50euro.

A bit later further up the road away from the pompidou centre a small group of exclusively black girls worked. Maybe a dozen or so on two street corners close to the arch thingy that marks the end of rue st. Dennis.

They were black girl aggressive and of varying looks, max a 6 maybe 7.

Didn't take any as they didn't reach any sort of acceptable standard.

[QUOTE=Poupard2000;1098648].. with the crisis and it becomes easier and easier to catch black girls in the street and to invite them for a drink. Most of the time, they will ask for money before to follow you at home. Many girls have no papers and no possibility to work. They are hungry for cash and for a white sponsor. If you like black mat...[/QUOTE]Can you share some contacts of the freelancers, please? What area is the best for catching?

Swingers clubs.

There's maybe a dozen of swingers clubs in Paris (41, Les Chandelles, No Comment, ec) , most rather shady (and some VERY shady).

Nonetheless, took last week a naughty Russian GF of mine, who was eager to experience this kind of place, at "Overside Club". Had a great time there. A classy and cosy place, not overpriced, with a well-groomed and refined clientele (a few really hot girls, including mine who wrapped up in fine lingerie, stiletto heels, short skirt and see-through top for the occasion) , and a real good atmosphere.

Highly recommanded.

[url]http://www.overside.fr/2007/english/index.htm[/url]

BTW.

Something that has nothing to do with paid sex, for just as an information. There's in Paris good brasilian parties each Wednesday and Sunday, where gather all the brasilian community. Many Brasilian girls there.

It's in Los Mexicanos restaurant, adress is 10 rue Papillon in the 10th district. Worth a visit.

Despite for my liking for Russian culture and women, I am a regular there. PM if anyone eager to meet on site.

[QUOTE=Otari;1131020]Can you share some contacts of the freelancers, please? What area is the best for catching?[/QUOTE]You can try on afrointroductions. It's not just for finding girls in cameroon and kenya, plenty of black girls in france use it as well.

I hooked up with a voluptuous Malian woman in her early 30s last month. She was pretty much the type that Poupard mentions, pennyless, living with her family and looking to regularise her papers. Unsure whether I was her boyfriend or her sponsor I invited her out for dinner on a couple of occasions. She then started moaning that it would be much easier for her if we met close to her home base in the northern suburbs. This we did for lunch one Saturday and she invited me home for coffee with her inlaws afterwards. But, due to a misunderstanding, we got separated in the public transport and I went back to my place instead.

I now invited her on a minibreak to Strasbourg with me. Big drama. Malian unmarried women are not supposed to do that. Her brother would kill her, etc etc. In the end she accepted. The trip was a disappointment. Not because of the sex, which was very good. She was lively, wet and accepting all kinds of action from long BBBJ, to A-levels, to light spanking. She was also generous with kisses and caresses. But. The rest of our togetherness was totally without spiritual connection, and after two days of trying to make conversation or show her some sights (anything) that would interest her I resigned myself to the fact that she was not really interested in me.

Having had enough sex for a month, I told her that in my view our little outing had not been a success and suggested we return to Paris. Huge drama. Oh my God, her brother had told her all French men are insincere, but she had felt so sure of me. Now what would the family say? She would be disgraced, etc etc. Very touching, except she had let too much slip during our conversations. Not only she had a child out of wedlock, she had also been the mistress of a bigwig back in Mali. Consequently, I didn't believe she could do much to shock the family.

When this scene did not produce any results she changed tack and had a "heart attack" against which she had to take some pills (vitamin B as far as I could see. A total hoax) and lie down on our bed. The whole tactic was of course to show me I was not getting rid of her so easily. When I finally managed to nudge her to the train station she began to look morosly into her empty purse. The message was clear, and having received her "services" for two nights and two mornings I was willing to pay. So, I gave her an amount of money that, shall we say, would have insulted an escort girl, but represented a big donation for a struggling "banlieusarde" girl. This donation had a miraculously healing effect on her heart trouble.

This will not have been the last time I use "afro" for this purpose. But next time I'll do it with my eyes open. I speculate that my little Malian lady with the strict brother was in fact freelancing out of the "brother's" appartment. (That would also explain why she had to do some convincing to make her "brother" accept her absence for a long weekend.) I wonder what would have happened if I'd gone there after our lunch together?

[quote=dreams; 1093396]i don't think there is anymore.

what you can find are "peep shows" where, every other hour or so, a couple will perform for 10 minutes.

there are 2 decent "erotic theaters", called "show girls" and "chochotte", but they are girls only. show girls is quite nice actually, girls are performing full strip, frontal nudity, wide open, and then move on each spectator's lap. some can be touched more than others. lesbian acts are being performed on your lap.[/quote]yes there is : [url]http://www.theatre-chochotte.com/[/url]

I was passing through Paris on a Sunday night last month, and the best option seemed to be to try one of the massage parlours that advertised naturist massage. I picked the Muang Thai Spa ([url]http://www.massagethai75.fr/[/url]) because it was open on a Sunday and convenient to get to. It's at 19 rue de Maubeuge in the 9eme not far from various metro stations.

I chose a one-hour "massage naturiste body body (bain relaxant avec votre masseuse inclus)" for 160€. This was with a girl called Wan, who features in pictures on the website.

The first half hour was spent in the bath where she massaged my legs and front, (and briefly my neck from behind). She didn't pay any attention to my cock, but on the other hand didn't avoid touching.

We moved to the bed and she massaged my back. When I turned over she went straight for my cock and without much preliminaries started masturbating me. Fairly soon she changed positions so that I could lick her pussy, which I was delighted to do. After I came she wiped up, showered me and helped me dress.

Good value.

[QUOTE=Luluberlu; 1138705]Yes there is :

[url]http://www.theatre-chochotte.com/[/url][/QUOTE]To each his own taste, but I prefer "showgirls" to "Chochotte".

Chochotte is very sophisticated, decoration, clothes etc. But far less raunchy. I don't recall much, if any, physical contact with the girls.

AT showgirls, it's far less sophisticated, hardly any decoration to talk about, but the show is much harder: girls strip and open wide, then move to sit, fully naked, on each spectator's lap, where they masturbate, and some touching is allowed, more or less depending on the girl. And lesbian acts are performed on your lap.

All this for 50 Euros all included. There are ususally 4 girls, but if you come at the time of shift change, that's around 5-6 pm, you may see 8.

[QUOTE=Dreams; 1140372]To each his own taste, but I prefer "showgirls" to "Chochotte".

Chochotte is very sophisticated, decoration, clothes etc. But far less raunchy. I don't recall much, if any, physical contact with the girls.

AT showgirls, it's far less sophisticated, hardly any decoration to talk about, but the show is much harder: girls strip and open wide, then move to sit, fully naked, on each spectator's lap, where they masturbate, and some touching is allowed, more or less depending on the girl. And lesbian acts are performed on your lap.

All this for 50 Euros all included. There are ususally 4 girls, but if you come at the time of shift change, that's around 5-6 pm, you may see 8.[/QUOTE]+1 on Showgirls, had the same experience there. Most let you touch when I was there.

I will make another trip to Paris in June and just asked myself whether you can find any semi-pros or hookers inside of hotel bars or clubs somewhere in Paris. I understood that prostitution is essentially illegal in France but if I would be a hooker having a drink in a bar would be much more suitable than walking along a dark street.

Does anybody made observations regarding this? Are there any places where you can find economically challenged blacks or latinas willing to accept an immoral offer? I always prefer to see in advance what I get. As a last resort I can settle for niamodel or rendezvous anyway.

Thanks for any recommendations.

Tacitus

[QUOTE=Tacitus; 1140800]I will make another trip to Paris in June and just asked myself whether you can find any semi-pros or hookers inside of hotel bars or clubs somewhere in Paris. I understood that prostitution is essentially illegal in France but if I would be a hooker having a drink in a bar would be much more suitable than walking along a dark street.

Does anybody made observations regarding this? Are there any places where you can find economically challenged blacks or latinas willing to accept an immoral offer? I always prefer to see in advance what I get. As a last resort I can settle for niamodel or rendezvous anyway.

Thanks for any recommendations.

Tacitus[/QUOTE]Prostitution is not ilegal in France, what is illlegal is pimping, which is why there can be no brothel. (a brothel owner would be considered a pimp). Offering sex in a massage parlour is also illegal, since then the parlor's owner becomes a pimp."Soliciting" is also illegal, but it is almost impossible to prove (It is not illegal for a girl to wait at a bus stop, even scantily dressed).

There are high class, expensive hookers in every lobby and bar of any 5 star hotel.

Very depressing news from France:

[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/8449541/France-considers-making-prostitution-illegal.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Jonathan76; 1144859]Very depressing news from France:

[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/8449541/France-considers-making-prostitution-illegal.html[/url][/QUOTE]Yes, indeed, but not so much after all, given that the current situation is already so bad for mongers. And my bet is that this is only preelectoral talk. When it will be time to implement, whichever side wins the election will just have too much else to tackle that this will be relegated to secong or third priorirty.

Anyway, when someone asks me today where to monger in Paris, I usually answers;"Brussels".90 minutes away from Gare du Nord.

I checked these areas out several times last month (on a Fri late afternoon, Fri evening, and Sat early evening) and didn't see anything that looked available nor did I see any relevant ads on downspouts. I had nearly completed circling the next block around Plaza Republique and was ready to give up when I spotted what looked like a red neon massage sign on a door down the final side street / off Boulevard de Temple I think. I might not have seen it were it not getting dark. It was a very small storefront shop offering asian massage for 45Euro / 60min and thai massage for 55Euro / 60min. I chose Thai and was met by a beautiful young woman who took me into one of the two small massage areas separated by curtains. The back area I was in was a mattress on the floor whereas when I was leaving I noticed the other area had a table. She proceeded to give me a wonderful massage and allowed me a little respectful contact with her partway through. Still not sure how this was going to end I very gradually ratcheted up the contact with her and with about five minutes left she made the motions and asked how much I was willing to tip her. I gave her 30Euro's on top of the 55Euro house fee. Great massage, beautiful young asian woman, happy ending, reasonable price.

[QUOTE=Biffa; 1128593]About 5pm I spotted two or three unappetising elderly fat hookers in full french hooker outfit, seems like they start at 50euro.

A bit later further up the road away from the pompidou centre a small group of exclusively black girls worked. Maybe a dozen or so on two street corners close to the arch thingy that marks the end of rue st. Dennis.

They were black girl aggressive and of varying looks, max a 6 maybe 7.

Didn't take any as they didn't reach any sort of acceptable standard. [/QUOTE]

I'm planning my paris trip next month, for 3 weeks. Having read through the about the experiences about red light districts in paris. Looks like need to stay away from them! (Not sure if the experiences are true also)

Any good gentleman's (strip clubs) in paris?

I'm planning my Paris business trip for 3 weeks starting June 16. 17.

Not necessarily looking for one night stand but curious if there are [safe] local clubs or popular hang out spots to pick up ladies, preferably those Eastern European beauties. Thank you.

Hello out there in Paris. Might anyone know where I can appreciate Filipinas in Paris? Any particular clubs or places they would gather (besides churches)? Might anyone recommend a talented P4P playmate? I'm a visiting businessman for a few days early July.

Might anyone care to recommend a swingers club? To attend a swingers club, do most require a gf or do most people hire a gf to go with? Where is a good place to look for / do this?

Please accept my thanks for any insights, telephone numbers or recommendations.

On Assignment

What I will say is that the thread for Paris is on the money.

Lousy action all around in Paris.

I went over to St. Denis at the Strasbourg metro exit and ran into groups of those OLD Chinese ladies who are all obviously working. It is "okay" if you are game but the whole set up is off putting. Homely looking Chinese women just hanging out in small groups without any indication that they can service you easily or quickly from where you find them on the street. Not ideal at all.

If you have been to Amsterdam, Franfurt, Brussells, etc, you will see that Paris does not have any real action.

Paris is awful.

Anyway, after lookin at St. Denis / Strausburg and realized it was hopeless. I continued down to Place de la Republic (based on intel from another post and I wandered around and took a hard right on BLVD. Du Temple and the went right on rue Notre-Dame de Nazareth. This street is about 100 meters from Place de la Republic down from BLVD. Du Temple. THen I saw the little red neon massage sign.

I met JayZ there. SHe was so lovely and did the GFE thing without any effort. 50 Euro for the door and 50 for the massage and HJ. I am not sure I could of had more because I only wanted that but I could of havd the HJ with just 30 Euro but she took a long time and was great with conversation and she did my feet for about 20 mins. As well. I gave her 50 on top. All in all a GREAT time spent.

Paris is NOT the place for the normal fun. THings re hard to come by easily. If you are in the area, you need to check out this place. Very nice if you are into the AMP thing.

[url]www.salondemassageparis.com[/url]

Fleurs D'Asie.

10, rue Notre-Dame de Nazareth.

75003 PARIS.

Tel-01-42-77-80-60.

Close to the Metro line (Republic 2 and Temple line 3)

You guys have to check out Jay-Z (that is what her name sounds like).

Again, this is just a nice place to relieve stress. Highly doubtful that more than that can happen in the place but for Paris, that seems good enough.

I walked from there to Belleview. The same Chinese women thing but again, not at all interesting.

Hi All,

Please can someone help verify this website [url]www.escortplius.com[/url] It talks about agency and independent france escorts.

Has anyone tried their serivice are the pictures true.

Please Help.

Human007

Recently in the news, because Dominique Strauss Kahn (untill recently the head of the Inernational Monetary Fund) is reported to have roughed up some women there as well as the maids in New York, Les Chandelles seems to be a high-end swingers club that appears to accept single men (at, of course, a higher price). Does anyone out there have any experience with this club?

found myself with about two hours to kill in paris a few weeks ago, and thanks to modern devices was able to log onto the forum and decided to check out rue st. denis to take in the sights and hopefully find a massage parlour to relax a bit.

it was a week day, and it was early afternoon, but once i got a bit further up the street then there were literally about three to four girls on each block standing around outside door ways. probably saw thirty girls in total, but big problem with all of them, they were all old and ugly i thought. some had some really big tits, but did not want to spend my hard earned cash on a blowjob from any of these nasty girls.

walked past one massage parlour on rue st. denis itself in the more red light districty area (once all the sex shops start). figured that they must provide extras, but was running short of time. walked into a peep show place instead since i wanted to check that out and get a nut out before i needed to go.

came inside, was greeted by the person i guess was the manager and an ugly white girl. there was also an absolutely gorgeous young black girl in the shop. had lots of language difficulties, but think that i agreed with the owner that "kim" the pretty black girl would give me a massage and a handjob for euro 50.

was taken into a little room in the back with a comfortable share in front of a little stage, told to wait five minutes, sat and waited for a while, after about ten minutes the ugly white girl came to take me to a different room that had a bed in it. was told to undress, then kim came in. she was being really nice and bubbly, and despite the language difficulties we managed to have a bit of a conversation while she was giving me a bit of a massage on my back. after about seven minutes she told me to turn around and she took of her clothes, tried caressing her butt, she playfully moved my hand and told me that touching costs extra. she undressed a bit more and showed me a pair of absolutely gorgeous tits, moved sexily over me, but wouldn't let me touch her. then she tried to sign me up for a frequent visitor programme. told her no politely, then she asked me what i liked sexually. suggested that a blowjob would be nice, for which she quoted euro 300.

i declined and started to masturbate while i watched her do a number of sexy poses over me and in front of me. she suggested the blowjob again, did not want to spend euro 300 for a freaking bj even though she was gorgeous, so kept watching her move and masturbated.

it was something erotic about having a totally naked girl in front of me, yet not being allowed to touch that really turned me on, so after a few minutes i blew my load. she gave me some tissue paper, and then smiled and said au revoir and left.

got dressed, then left.

a weird but sexy experience i guess, not really worth the 50 euro, but rather what i had in the peep show than sex with one of the gargoyle women on that street and needed to blow a load to be able to concentrate in my work meetings during the rest of the day.

Hi,

Can anyone tell massage parlours in Paris where erotic massage is provided by European ladies.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Inch15; 1172926]Hi,

Can anyone tell massage parlours in Paris where erotic massage is provided by European ladies.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Don't hink there are any. All are Asian staffed. Try "zen though. This is naturist massage, that is naked girls, but no happy ending, and expensive. Good if you need excitement before going elsewhere for release after.

[QUOTE=Dreams;1173130]Don't hink there are any. All are Asian staffed. Try "zen though. This is naturist massage, that is naked girls, but no happy ending, and expensive. Good if you need excitement before going elsewhere for release after.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Can you tell me the location or contact of this place?

In case anyone is interested: 40% to 50% off at more than 500 restaurants in Paris.

[url]http://www.thefork.com/restaurant-of.IAL_OFFER.html[/url]

Great site that offers great discounts. Easy process. You register (takes 30 seconds) , click to reserve the restaurant of your choice, and immediatly receive a confirmation email / sms.

Granted, some of those places are still expensive. But 50% off is still a major savings.

[QUOTE=DavePave;1163290]Les Chandelles seems to be a high-end swingers club that appears to accept single men (at, of course, a higher price). Does anyone out there have any experience with this club?[/QUOTE]Overside is much better.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?661-Paris&p=1135057&viewfull=1#post1135057[/url]

[QUOTE=Inch15;1173683]Thanks. Can you tell me the location or contact of this place?[/QUOTE]No, but google "zen, narurists massage, paris and you should get it. I repeat, expensive and no sex, you are not allowed touch. If money is not your problem, and you just had a few pops eleswhere, and you need some relaxation after that, why not.

[QUOTE=Prosal; 1173835]Overside is much better.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?661-Paris&p=1135057&viewfull=1#post1135057[/url][/QUOTE]As alway, a matter of opinon. CAn you tell us why you say so? Better for whom? Single men? Couples? Please elaborate.

[QUOTE=Prosal; 1173833]In case anyone is interested: 40% to 50% off at more than 500 restaurants in Paris.

[url]http://www.thefork.com/restaurant-of.IAL_OFFER.html[/url]

Great site that offers great discounts. Easy process. You register (takes 30 seconds) , click to reserve the restaurant of your choice, and immediatly receive a confirmation email / sms.

Granted, some of those places are still expensive. But 50% off is still a major savings.[/QUOTE]Probably the most useful post in the Paris thread since a long time. This says clearly that Paris is not a mongerer's place, but definitively a romantic place where you can take your GF for good meals.

For anyone looking for a high-quality escort service experience in Paris (or Moscow, for that matter) , I can recommend Olga's Angels ([url]www.olgas-angels.net[/url]). I did a two-hour session with Elina in Paris last week and one with Sofia in Moscow earlier this year (she is in Paris this week). Both of these girls act like they were born to give blow jobs and both definitely took a place amongst the top five fellatrixes I have known. Elina also does A but that's not my cup of tea so I did not partake.

The agency is based in Moscow but each week there is usually from one to three girls on tour in Paris. You need to make your initial contact through the e-mail address on their website, but in my experience they have always been quite quick to respond. Services are spelled out on the website, with most girls offering a full menu. Outcall will run EUR250 for an hour or EUR350 for two hours in Paris. I'm sure this seems pricey to some but worth it for a memorable performance.

Happy Hunting,

E. M.

Yesterday, I did the St. Denis at the Strasbourg metro exit thing. Lots of old Chinese ladies. I left them alone and headed to the massage place [url]www.salondemassageparis.com[/url] Again and had my stressed released with a nice HJ. I am not interested in paying top dollar for this stuff. The HJ was just fine and the place is great if you are into massage. The street action seems lame but I am just passing through. I assume if you live in Paris, you can find more action but I am sure it is costly. Good luck hunting.

[QUOTE=Gros Chat; 1160910]What I will say is that the thread for Paris is on the money.

Lousy action all around in Paris.

I went over to St. Denis at the Strasbourg metro exit and ran into groups of those OLD Chinese ladies who are all obviously working. It is "okay" if you are game but the whole set up is off putting. Homely looking Chinese women just hanging out in small groups without any indication that they can service you easily or quickly from where you find them on the street. Not ideal at all.

If you have been to Amsterdam, Franfurt, Brussells, etc, you will see that Paris does not have any real action.

Paris is awful.

Anyway, after lookin at St. Denis / Strausburg and realized it was hopeless. I continued down to Place de la Republic (based on intel from another post and I wandered around and took a hard right on BLVD. Du Temple and the went right on rue Notre-Dame de Nazareth. This street is about 100 meters from Place de la Republic down from BLVD. Du Temple. THen I saw the little red neon massage sign.

I met JayZ there. SHe was so lovely and did the GFE thing without any effort. 50 Euro for the door and 50 for the massage and HJ. I am not sure I could of had more because I only wanted that but I could of havd the HJ with just 30 Euro but she took a long time and was great with conversation and she did my feet for about 20 mins. As well. I gave her 50 on top. All in all a GREAT time spent.

Paris is NOT the place for the normal fun. THings re hard to come by easily. If you are in the area, you need to check out this place. Very nice if you are into the AMP thing.

[url]www.salondemassageparis.com[/url]

Fleurs D'Asie.

10, rue Notre-Dame de Nazareth.

75003 PARIS.

Tel-01-42-77-80-60.

Close to the Metro line (Republic 2 and Temple line 3)

You guys have to check out Jay-Z (that is what her name sounds like).

Again, this is just a nice place to relieve stress. Highly doubtful that more than that can happen in the place but for Paris, that seems good enough.

I walked from there to Belleview. The same Chinese women thing but again, not at all interesting.[/QUOTE]

E M,

Thanks for sharing.

[QUOTE=El Mujerista; 1175304]For anyone looking for a high-quality escort service experience in Paris (or Moscow, for that matter) , I can recommend Olga's Angels.

[url]www.olgas-angels.net[/url][/QUOTE]Think the web-site address should read.

[url]http://olgasangels.net[/url]

[QUOTE=El Mujerista;1175304]Both of these girls act like they were born to give blow jobs and both definitely took a place amongst the top five fellatrixes I have known.[/QUOTE]Fellatrix?

What a wonderful addition to the lexicon of sex!

I salute you.

VG.

So I had an hour to kill last week in Paris so decided to take a walk down rue st Denis, to scope out the action. It was about 14hrs and I walked from the North end to the South and then back up again.

I have to say that I saw maybe 20+ hookers in doorways, congregated mainly to the North. But beware when I tell you that these girls would not register a 2 on a scale of 10. They were some of the ugliest hookers I have ever seen. It is almost worth going just to have a look.

Have I been spoilt by the beautiful girls in Switzerland, Montreal and Poland?

Sheesh

[QUOTE=Gergiev; 1181230]E M,

Think the web-site address should read.

[url]http://olgasangels.net[/url][/QUOTE]I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing out the correct URL to avoid frustrating our fellow mongers.

[QUOTE]Fellatrix?

What a wonderful addition to the lexicon of sex!

I salute you.

VG.[/QUOTE]I do my best sir. Happy hunting!

Stay horny my friends,

E. M.

Hi fellows,

I plan a trip to Paris shortly. As I have learned from the forum the Paris mongering scene is rather boring. There is one thing which seems rather interesting and adventurous to me: Bois de Boulogne.

Hence, I have some general questions and would be happy if you could help:

- I have no car, hence I have to discover Bois de Bolougne by walking. Is that possible? The area seems quite large. From where should I access the park (Porte Dauphine)? Where does the action take place?

- At which time does the action start (I have also some hours spare time during daytime)?

- How about safety and police? I have seen a video on youtube (

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ6lYGFQU-g&feature=sh_e_se&list=SL[/url]

) revealing that police shows up rather often. What happens if someone gets caught? Is it illegal only for the woman or also for the clients?

I would be happy to receive some answers.

Thanks in advance & Happy mongering,

Europe Hunter