South China - Guangzhou

I stayed in Garden Hotel recently and decided to have a nice walk outside. If you leave the hotel and turn left, then left again into the Jian She Liu Ma Road, you will see some girls on the right side.

You may want to beware of the Africans who apparently want to sell you things more illegal than what I was looking for. I walked up and down a while and decided for a tall (about 1. 70m) nice-looking girl. I think she was around 30 or so.

Her initial quote was 300, I negotiated her down to 200, when she offered her and her friend for 300. Although her friend was not as nice (a little chubby, and a pancake face), I decided to give it a go, and as I didn't want to go back to my place (valuables and papers in my room, ya know) she picked a hotel nearby, which was another 50.

The reception girl took 100 from me and told me I'll get 50 back when leaving the room. My two new friends were friendly and always chatting. We all washed and both gave me a BJ, then the tall one was riding me and later I switched to do her friend missionary.

The sex was not exceptional but I'm no bedtime acrobat either, I pretty much got what I was looking for. On leaving the room, the pretty girl took the 50 RMB deposit from the receptionist and smiled at me. I guess had I insisted she qould have given me the 50 RMB but I left it to her as a tip. I do value a friendly attitude. Total damage including the taxi was 407 Kuai.

If I am in town and need some quick relief, I guess I'll visit her again.

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Hi all, jst returned from my, may be sixth or seventh to Guangzhou. First night, on the 17th, it was raining since morning. Clubs were almost empty and there were lots and lots of girls on street opp garden hotel till tang, very eager to be picked up., asking 300 for st. Next day called my old contact who herself is now a provider, to my room, st only 250 rmb. Number available by pm if anyone needs. Thereafter it was heavy rush in night clubs as foreigners begin coming in for canton fair and rates begin to increase everywhere including hotel rooms. Even the Chinese girls were not hesitate to ask 1500 rmb for lt & 1000 rmb for st. Picked a latino stunner for 700 rmb for around two hours on a Monday night which was not possible on weekends. She has excellent figure and looks no doubt but still I feel that the service you can get in a CP sauna is way above every thing you get in Guangzhou. Thanks BSD for taking me to fuhao sauna on the last days, though I was intrested in goin to huihua, but decided for fuhao, or may be the name was different, but dave told me its under fuhao management. The girl, and her service was actually quite good. Though it looked little higher in price at 650rmb, but the girl and her body was above the quality of girls you get in 568 at huihua. Than the girl did all her best to satisfy and impress me. I really enjoyed two great sessions. Also got a chance to meet some other ISG members from China, hk, and taiwan at the fuhao KTV. Spent the night at sauna room and returned back to Guangzhou early morning to catch evening flight back home.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Asia Fan]Have you tried them finally? What was your damage?

As I remember, girls in this beauty salon wears nice, pink short dresses so they looks encouraging but the price for the service is absolutely killing.
Price for HJ is something around 600 - 800 and for FS 1 200 - 1400 !!!

Just incredibly absurd rates.

If you tried, please correct me if I'm wrong but I do not think so.[/QUOTE]Just seen your question. Sorry, no, didn't try as too tired, and probably won't be back for some time. But as I said, there were plenty of girls available at midnight and the negotiating rules of supply and demand may well apply!?

As with all purchases in China, I imagine you have to be ready to walk away.

All the best

D

[QUOTE=Dastardley]Just seen your question. Sorry, no, didn't try as too tired, and probably won't be back for some time. But as I said, there were plenty of girls available at midnight and the negotiating rules of supply and demand may well apply!?

As with all purchases in China, I imagine you have to be ready to walk away.

All the best

D[/QUOTE]As I mentioned before, I'll be there in 1 week so I'm gonna check present rates as well as my negotiation abilities.

Thanks, take care.

AF

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]FE48,

There used to be a few BBS down the road on the right side of the Marriott but I've not checked it out for a couple of years. There is also another BBS area a few blocks away. A taxi could show you the way.

You can normally find SW on 105 just after you make the right turn coming from downtown. I saw a few there last fall.

Just my POV.

OAH[/QUOTE]Hi FE & OAH,

Thank you for the Shunde leads. I will investigate further when I am next in Shunde. I did have my first Shunde experience last month while staying a few days at the 'Century Hotel'. Went down to the hotel sauna and ended up with a nice massage + HJ for a nominal amount. Over many years of traveling I always go for FS, but figured I would try this and it was pleasurable.

Let me ask a more advanced question for a English speaker that is slowly learning bits & pieces of Mandarin. If I wanted to hope in a Shunde taxi and speak a few phrases in Chinese to see if the driver can take me to a BBS or streetwalker area, 1) would I have much success doing this? 2) If so, is there an area here on the ISG China forum where I can pick up such monger phrases in basic Mandarin (ie 'I want to find a beautiful girl. Take me to chicken street. ')?!

What is the best way to approach this in your experience, since I do not have enough language skills to carry on a basic conversation yet. Just enough to pronounce and understand some basic words.

Cheers,

Streetwalker

I'll be arriving in Guangzhou next week (May 7th) and staying at the Victory Hotel. I already know about the sauna, however I would like to know if there is any WG action near the hotel.

Thanks

Streetwalker,

My PinYin knowledge is not so great. Maybe some of the other ISG guys can help you more for this.

When I am looking for BBS, I just tell the taxi I want girls cheap. This seems to work for me. There is a slang term for BBS with FS, but I cannot remember it. Anybody?

OAH



[QUOTE=Streetwalker]Hi FE & OAH,

Thank you for the Shunde leads. I will investigate further when I am next in Shunde. I did have my first Shunde experience last month while staying a few days at the 'Century Hotel'. Went down to the hotel sauna and ended up with a nice massage + HJ for a nominal amount. Over many years of traveling I always go for FS, but figured I would try this and it was pleasurable.

Let me ask a more advanced question for a English speaker that is slowly learning bits & pieces of Mandarin. If I wanted to hope in a Shunde taxi and speak a few phrases in Chinese to see if the driver can take me to a BBS or streetwalker area, 1) would I have much success doing this? 2) If so, is there an area here on the ISG China forum where I can pick up such monger phrases in basic Mandarin (ie 'I want to find a beautiful girl. Take me to chicken street. ')?!

What is the best way to approach this in your experience, since I do not have enough language skills to carry on a basic conversation yet. Just enough to pronounce and understand some basic words.

Cheers,

Streetwalker[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Streetwalker]Hi FE & OAH,

...

Let me ask a more advanced question for a English speaker that is slowly learning bits & pieces of Mandarin. If I wanted to hope in a Shunde taxi and speak a few phrases in Chinese to see if the driver can take me to a BBS or streetwalker area, 1) would I have much success doing this? 2) If so, is there an area here on the ISG China forum where I can pick up such monger phrases in basic Mandarin (ie 'I want to find a beautiful girl. Take me to chicken street. ')?!

What is the best way to approach this in your experience, since I do not have enough language skills to carry on a basic conversation yet. Just enough to pronounce and understand some basic words.

Cheers,

Streetwalker[/QUOTE]

My advice, based on:
a few years of experience,
being highly motivated, and
not enjoying the feeling of bursting balls because I couldn't find the action,
is to BUY A (CHINESE LANGUAGE) cell/mobile PHONE.

Learn some basic phrases (using the pinyin converter which they all have), and store them in your phone as an unsent phone message.

Then, when you feel the itch, show your message(s) to a taxi-driver, bar attendant, etc. and before you know it, bliss will be yours. :)

Just my experience.

Cheers.

P13.

Thanks for OAH, SEA and others for all the encouragement,

Had the first ever mongering session albeit hesitantly at first just negotiating and walking away after asking ridiculously low prices like 50 to 100 rmb. That was the first few days in Guangzhou when I was staying in a 5 star hotel near Guangzhou east railway station.

Then after scouting all the avenues, moved to the STAR hotel (just outside the East railway station) totally GF hotel with a side entrance and the lifts requiring no cards.

Walked along the road outside Garden hotel, picked up one for 200 for one time even though there were two of them offering both of them together for 400, I thought let me start off slow, I am new at this. Took her up to the hotel, taxi cost 16 RMB from Garden hotel to Star hotel. The hotel has no safety lockers in the rooms but deposit boxes are available at the reception which I had used to deposit all my cash and cards before hand, clever of me huh! Though not a stunner was not bad either, she said lets both of us take off clothes together acting shy, which I did obediently. She was smelling amazing all bushy around her pussy and rounded boobs, went straight to job with a CBJ. I was ready to come right there but tried very hard to control. Then she rode over me with grunts making me come within a short time, cleaned me up nicely and I went to the bath, came back paid her up and gave a 20 rmb for her taxi ride back. All in all nice first experience.

The night doesn't end here!

I was ready to go one more time with the new found confidence, called up mamasan whose card I picked up the night before outside China hotel just after coming out of the metro exit. She said 300 but agreed to 200 as it was late into the night and I guess a weekday is not so good for business. She came directly up to my hotel room with her "friend" but I wasnt ready to agree to her. I asked for someone else and armed with my specific instructions she went back taking the 200 RMB with her asking me to just pay the taxi money to her friend. She promptly sent me a different lady suiting exactly to my specifications. I had asked the first one to wait till the other one arrives which she promptly agreed to as I had offered her a friendly drink and snacks out of the minibar. She stayed back to take a shower, not for the snacks.

As soon as my "order" arrived, I went to the basic positions with a CBJ being a standard offering as starters then I went ballistic and tried all the different positions I had grew up watching only on a screen. Finally ended with a Doggy style with me riding her like a horse.

A nice ending to the night but was a real different one the next night, a real lesson that I had learnt to not-eat-too-much just take your fill.

If I receive any comments about this report then I will report back the next night's happenings and the scene at Shanghai which I visited the next week.

PS: All my contacts (both Guangzhou and Shanghai) are just a week fresh and are available through PM.

Hi bro,

I normally log in Malaysia forum.

But I just went to Canton Fair last week and I try to log in ISG but I can't.

Any bro here can help me on this? How can I log in to ISG in China?

Any mirror page?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Kanak Ala]If I receive any comments about this report then I will report back the next night's happenings and the scene at Shanghai which I visited the next week.

.[/QUOTE]
I for one appreciate your report and would like to read more.

Am particularly impressed that you did not get overcharged and got acceptable servicing for one who's a newbie in China (?!).

Thanks for the good read - keep on reporting!!

SEAJ

[QUOTE=Bear X]Hi bro,

I normally log in Malaysia forum.

But I just went to Canton Fair last week and I try to log in ISG but I can't.

Any bro here can help me on this? How can I log in to ISG in China?

Any mirror page?

Thanks[/QUOTE]
Been discussed many times before - please do RTFF for more info - but essentially you either need a VPN subscription for your computer or else go to Baidu/Google and search for "free proxy."

You'd need to try a few of these proxies before you get one that works

SEAJ

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Been discussed many times before - please do RTFF for more info - but essentially you either need a VPN subscription for your computer or else go to Baidu/Google and search for "free proxy."

You'd need to try a few of these proxies before you get one that works

SEAJ[/QUOTE]Hi!

I am in GZ now. I tried several things before going to ask.com I did a search for International Sex Guide and now here I am.

Good luck

Someone has reported this, don't remember if GZ or not, but I have now confirmed with Garden Hotel. When I checked in, I presented the girl's ID card and so the room was booked under two people's name and they even told me to sign for the Miss (she was too shy to come to the counter with me). So definitely the policy has changed and no longer required to be married to have a man and a woman in the same room.

One more thing, I am writing this from my room without any trouble, namely ISG access is not an issue from inside Garden Hotel.

As for the scene outside on the street, same as before as far as I can see, the situation of the street next to Garden Hotel lined with SW is no longer true, just the few really old and fat and ugly. Asked a taxi driver and he said there were really a lot more SW a few weeks back, so I guess maybe they have gone to Shanghai instead.

F.

[QUOTE=Asia Fan]As I mentioned before, I'll be there in 1 week so I'm gonna check present rates as well as my negotiation abilities.

Thanks, take care.

AF[/QUOTE]Just for interest's sake, I'd like to know if you came, saw and conquered; and if so, how much?

All the best,

D

Hi there

I am in Guangzhou I am living in Sanyuanli Yung Fu Hotel, anybody can PM me a mobile phone to call any guy to send a lady to my hotel?

In yiwu I usually pay 200-300 rmb.

[QUOTE=Rikimaer]Hi there

I am in Guangzhou I am living in Sanyuanli Yung Fu Hotel, anybody can PM me a mobile phone to call any guy to send a lady to my hotel?

In yiwu I usually pay 200-300 rmb.[/QUOTE]

Your best bet would be Craigslist, and please write report afterwards. You cannot just come and ask a question and never contribute.

Guangzhou has a lot of ways to get girls and there are a lot of them in this big town.

Fillmore.

Kama is now the only game in town for the obvious crowd of WG in a bar.

Not sure when it will come back.

Duo across the street charges a cover and no WG as far as I can tell.

F.

Hi Guys!

I would like to introduce myself, I'm Flying Solo and this is my first post. I'm Australian born but now living in northern China. I've been reading ISG for years and silently putting the invaluable info to work. I'm a serious monger (more than 25yrs experience) and not scared to venture off the beaten track. I think as a newbie to ISG, I should prove myself before blantantley asking for valuable info like some do. I have mongered in many cities including Shanghai, Beijing, Ningbo, Wuhan, Xiamen, Shantou, Zhuhai, Shenzhen, Zhongshan, Huizhou, Hangzhou, Nanjing and now currently in Guangzhou. So let's to it. Today 3 tips for Guangzhou.

1. Bargain basement 288RMB – 90mins FS, Level 2, Ming Hong Hotel – Xi Wan Lu XiCun Guangzhou. Take metro line 5 to Xicun station, exit A. Left out of the metro exit and you are on Xi Wan Lu, walk along the road away from the main Road (Huangshi Lu) pass a hostipal on your left, a police station on your right then about another 400m. The hotel will be on the left attached to 2 restaurants. Level 2. They will offer you massage 98RMB ask for 288RMB massage/sex. Remember for this price you can't be fussy. Girl 805 and 866 both slim late 20's early 30's should do the trick. The place is a little run down but they're friendly. You will shower and robe up on level 2 once finished they will escort you to a room on level 3.

2. 5 star Veggie Sauna – Osotto, WOW! Similar to Queen Spa in Shenzhen. This place is an oasis and I can't believe it has not been mentioned anywhere. It is known by many names Osotto Recreation Hotel, Guangdong Nanmei Osotto Hotel and South American Hotel (this is what's on the building). Address as per business card is 16 HaiMing Street of BinjiangXi Road in Haizhu District, Guangzhou. [url]www.Osotto.com[/url] It is across the river from ShaMian Island within walking distance from Victory Hotel. Cross the bridge away from ShaMian over the Pearl River and it's the first building riverside on your right. At night it has blue neon signs, one sign says SPA the others are Chinese characters. 158RMB for 24hr Sauna fee includes 3 meals in a Buffett restaurant on level 2, Spa pools, Snooker room, table tennis, Chess, Rest areas free drinks, fruit, smokes. Absolutely unbelievable value, even just for the food (5 star buffet quality (sushi, prawns, oysters, ribs, western dishes, asian dishes too much to mention), if you purchase 6 lounge services ie. Foot massage, Pedicure etc the 158RMB is free. It cost me 338RMB plus 10% surcharge nowdays total 372 for all day. Today was veggie day for me, I will try a massage service soon and see what's available, keep you posted. The hostess that looked after me was smoking hot, as they normally are! She asked me if I was alone and I replied yes Flying Solo, she giggled and said she'd be my friend, the mind started going places! Overall one of the best veggie spa/sauna's I've been too.

3. BBS's in Liwan District found many more than previously mentioned in the Guangzhou posts. In a previous members post there is a BBS on Zhuji Lu near the corner of Heping West Road, I was Hello'ed by a 30's plus lady with a few more sitting inside. Around the corner in Heping West Road there are another 2 BBS's one of them had some real young babes didn't enter because local guys sitting inside talking to the girls could be the pimps (not comfortable with that so moved on). Also on Shisan Fu Road a block away a couple more. They are located in the Shang Xia Jiu Pedestrian Street area near the Holiday Inn Shifu Hotel. Also walking distance from Victory hotel. If Using the metro go to Shangshou Lu Station exit D, use google maps from there.

Well guys I hope that's a help. I've paid Jackson the annual fee so feel free to drop me a PM. I'm in Guangzhou until early June, if you want to catch up drop me a line. More to come stayed tuned. I will also post info about other cities under the appropriate ISG city forum.

[QUOTE=Flying Solo]Hi Guys!

I would like to introduce myself, I'm Flying Solo and this is my first post. I'm Australian born but now living in northern China. I've been reading ISG for years and.....................[/QUOTE]
Oh WOW!!! What a great report with great pointers!!

Thanks for taking the time to write this all.

I'm even tempted to come up to GZ just to try out some of your suggestions and/or to meet up with you.

Great!! Please keep writing and contributing your - I'm quite sure - invaluable knowledge.

Regards
SEAJ

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Oh WOW!!! What a great report with great pointers!!

Thanks for taking the time to write this all.

I'm even tempted to come up to GZ just to try out some of your suggestions and/or to meet up with you.

Great!! Please keep writing and contributing your - I'm quite sure - invaluable knowledge.

Regards,

SEAJ[/QUOTE]Thanks for the props SE Asia Joe. Like I said, it was all my pleasure, just sharing the finds. Forgot to mention in last post, have a business card holder full of 3-4 star hotels in all cities, that are normally under 180RMB and quite good and central to most action. Just PM me if you need. Like now I'm staying in Guangzhou for 30days for only 100RMB a night with all facilities.

Friend solo,

You are fantastic in writing.

Please post more!

[QUOTE=Flying Solo]Hi Guys!

I would like to introduce myself, I'm Flying Solo and this is my first post. I'm Australian born but now living in northern China. I've been reading ISG for years and silently putting the invaluable info to work. I'm a serious monger (more than 25yrs experience) and not scared to venture off the beaten track. I think as a newbie to ISG, I should prove myself before blantantley asking for valuable info like some do. I have mongered in many cities including Shanghai, Beijing, Ningbo, Wuhan, Xiamen, Shantou, Zhuhai, Shenzhen, Zhongshan, Huizhou, Hangzhou, Nanjing and now currently in Guangzhou. So let's to it. Today 3 tips for Guangzhou.

1. Bargain basement 288RMB – 90mins FS, Level 2, Ming Hong Hotel – Xi Wan Lu XiCun Guangzhou. Take metro line 5 to Xicun station, exit A. Left out of the metro exit and you are on Xi Wan Lu, walk along the road away from the main Road (Huangshi Lu) pass a hostipal on your left, a police station on your right then about another 400m. The hotel will be on the left attached to 2 restaurants. Level 2. They will offer you massage 98RMB ask for 288RMB massage/sex. Remember for this price you can't be fussy. Girl 805 and 866 both slim late 20's early 30's should do the trick. The place is a little run down but they're friendly. You will shower and robe up on level 2 once finished they will escort you to a room on level 3.

2. 5 star Veggie Sauna – Osotto, WOW! Similar to Queen Spa in Shenzhen. This place is an oasis and I can't believe it has not been mentioned anywhere. It is known by many names Osotto Recreation Hotel, Guangdong Nanmei Osotto Hotel and South American Hotel (this is what's on the building). Address as per business card is 16 HaiMing Street of BinjiangXi Road in Haizhu District, Guangzhou. [url]www.Osotto.com[/url] It is across the river from ShaMian Island within walking distance from Victory Hotel. Cross the bridge away from ShaMian over the Pearl River and it's the first building riverside on your right. At night it has blue neon signs, one sign says SPA the others are Chinese characters. 158RMB for 24hr Sauna fee includes 3 meals in a Buffett restaurant on level 2, Spa pools, Snooker room, table tennis, Chess, Rest areas free drinks, fruit, smokes. Absolutely unbelievable value, even just for the food (5 star buffet quality (sushi, prawns, oysters, ribs, western dishes, asian dishes too much to mention), if you purchase 6 lounge services ie. Foot massage, Pedicure etc the 158RMB is free. It cost me 338RMB plus 10% surcharge nowdays total 372 for all day. Today was veggie day for me, I will try a massage service soon and see what's available, keep you posted. The hostess that looked after me was smoking hot, as they normally are! She asked me if I was alone and I replied yes Flying Solo, she giggled and said she'd be my friend, the mind started going places! Overall one of the best veggie spa/sauna's I've been too.

3. BBS's in Liwan District found many more than previously mentioned in the Guangzhou posts. In a previous members post there is a BBS on Zhuji Lu near the corner of Heping West Road, I was Hello'ed by a 30's plus lady with a few more sitting inside. Around the corner in Heping West Road there are another 2 BBS's one of them had some real young babes didn't enter because local guys sitting inside talking to the girls could be the pimps (not comfortable with that so moved on). Also on Shisan Fu Road a block away a couple more. They are located in the Shang Xia Jiu Pedestrian Street area near the Holiday Inn Shifu Hotel. Also walking distance from Victory hotel. If Using the metro go to Shangshou Lu Station exit D, use google maps from there.

Well guys I hope that's a help. I've paid Jackson the annual fee so feel free to drop me a PM. I'm in Guangzhou until early June, if you want to catch up drop me a line. More to come stayed tuned. I will also post info about other cities under the appropriate ISG city forum.[/QUOTE]

Needed a quick fix after dinner tonight, so back to Ming Hong Hotel sauna to see trusted 805. The management knows me now, 4th visit in 2 weeks, normally paid 98RMB upfront for sauna fee then the balance upon leaving. Tonight whisked straight in no fee, which I thought was a little strange. Shower, robed up (is there such a word, sounds good) and up to level 3 where 805 was excited to see me. All the FS girls here wear silky lingerie dresses, so if one comes in looking like a professional massuese she probably is. Onto the bed, first she provided an excellent massage including back stepping and Qiao Bei (chop chop massage). Then roll over, however tonight is was not pushing for fuckie fuckie then I realised after going for grabs she was on her rags, wearing nickers big enough to fit an elephant, they covered her from her thighs to just under her tits. Not a happy camper at this stage of proceedings, however she ressurected herself by offering a special price of 200RMB for BJ and spanish plus the massage for 90mins still excellent value. Also promised next time I see her she will love me long time! Sounds like a movie title!

[QUOTE=Loveboy2010]Friend solo,

You are fantastic in writing.

Please post more![/QUOTE]Thanks Loverboy!

Always remember be a lover not a fighter. And if you can't be either a poet is the next best thing!

Hey, I also like SOLO! It's cool and tough at the same time.. Like the SOLO man..

Hi ALL,

I have attached 2 photo's and addresses for BBS's in Liwan District near the HOLIDAY INN SHIFU hotel.

BBS 1. 88 Zhiju Road Liwan, by looks of it there is a metro station close.

BBS 2. 64 Heping West Road Liwan, this is just around the corner from BBS 1.

Also if you walk the surrounding streets at night there are several others.

How's this for a hotel name, I was in Xintang Town today where 40% of the world's denim comes from and I noticed a hotel called. HAPPY COME hotle, yes that's how it was spelt. I think this hotel is right down our alley guys. What do you think.

Flying Solo

Guys,

I wrote about this place in previous post. This place is pretty close to being heaven on earth!!! It's located on the zhujiang river near the Renmin Bridge overpass from Shamian Island. Attached is a photo of the building during the day... Using Google maps it's called South America Grand Hotel Guangdong.. If anyone is interested for a get together here for only 158RMB and some real quality R&R drop me a PM.

Cheers Flying Solo..

Hi Folks!

I have been here since 20th May, been to Kama, the Latinos theood valuere are smoking hot they can be ours for USD 80-100 for a full night and I think itsa good deal. But I want to with a hot Chinese Woman whos complete GFE.

Please PM me if anyone willing to share. Paid 300 RMB for a girl thru a massage parlour names Ap**e. She was gud looking but no GFE at all. Was in a hurry.

Still if anyone needs the umber they are most welcome to have it.

Will try a Latino at Kama soon and will post, till then someone please let me know if they can provide a gud GFE contact.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Supernova6092]Hi Folks!

I have been here since 20th May, been to Kama, the Latinos theood valuere are smoking hot they can be ours for USD 80-100 for a full night and I think itsa good deal. But I want to with a hot Chinese Woman whos complete GFE.

Please PM me if anyone willing to share. Paid 300 RMB for a girl thru a massage parlour names Ap**e. She was gud looking but no GFE at all. Was in a hurry.

Still if anyone needs the umber they are most welcome to have it.

Will try a Latino at Kama soon and will post, till then someone please let me know if they can provide a gud GFE contact.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Mr Supernova,

I was in KAMA last night and the place was an absolute asian/latino/arabic meat market. Arrived a little early, around 10pm to be welcomed by 2 cute asians aged 28 straight off the bat. After a bit of flirting with them they wanted both to go back to my hotel. Asked 1200RMB offered 500RMB and offer rejected. So I moved on to the next 2 younger sexier looking sitting by the bar when I noticed a perfect 10 asian lap dancing cock teasing some really lucky dude. Supernova, if she's half as good in bed to that dancing in KAMA she would be amazing. She wore a tight lycra black dress which revealed a hot firm sexy body and she was not shy. She was definately a GFE girl, constantly pashing her man and rubbing her body against him.

I couldn't stop looking at her and she knew it by reponding with air kisses, by this stage no other WG was a match for her, so I approached her man, high fived him, twisted hand move and told him, he's tonights KAMA champion. But I will be back that's for sure. Sorry no name for her yet. Keep you all posted.

Flying Solo

How girl friendly is the Grand Royal Hotel in Zhong Shan Avenue, Tianhe District. I will be in Guangzhou from 31st till 14th , any suggestions for mongering, since its my first china experience

[QUOTE=Flying Solo]Mr Supernova,

I was in KAMA last night and the place was an absolute asian/latino/arabic meat market. Arrived a little early, around 10pm to be welcomed by 2 cute asians aged 28 straight off the bat. After a bit of flirting with them they wanted both to go back to my hotel. Asked 1200RMB offered 500RMB and offer rejected. So I moved on to the next 2 younger sexier looking sitting by the bar when I noticed a perfect 10 asian lap dancing cock teasing some really lucky dude. Supernova, if she's half as good in bed to that dancing in KAMA she would be amazing. She wore a tight lycra black dress which revealed a hot firm sexy body and she was not shy. She was definately a GFE girl, constantly pashing her man and rubbing her body against him.

I couldn't stop looking at her and she knew it by reponding with air kisses, by this stage no other WG was a match for her, so I approached her man, high fived him, twisted hand move and told him, he's tonights KAMA champion. But I will be back that's for sure. Sorry no name for her yet. Keep you all posted.

Flying Solo[/QUOTE]You were absolutely right Flying Solo, a couple of the dancing girls in KAMA are really hot. I did not have the good luck of seeing hot looking WG myself when I went there two weeks ago, but at least one of the dancing girl was as sexy looking as the KTV girls I see in Zhuhai. I have no idea how to court such girls though, even though they will flirt with you in the bar, but getting them to go home is another matter. Hope to hear good news from you man, and keep up with the good report.

Fillmore

I have been going to the garden hotel almost everyday on the way to Paddy Field but see no action near Star Bucks as mentioned in the forum, does anyone no why?

Also , my Hotel at Haizu sqaure is not Girl Friendly at all as they do not allow any visitors after 11pm, any suggestions on what to do?

I also looking for some poker buddies, just fun session 100-400rmb buy ins, so if anyone is keen please lemme know, we can have a poker+drinking session and then hang out somewhere?

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]You were absolutely right Flying Solo, a couple of the dancing girls in KAMA are really hot. I did not have the good luck of seeing hot looking WG myself when I went there two weeks ago, but at least one of the dancing girl was as sexy looking as the KTV girls I see in Zhuhai. I have no idea how to court such girls though, even though they will flirt with you in the bar, but getting them to go home is another matter. Hope to hear good news from you man, and keep up with the good report.

Fillmore[/QUOTE]Hey Fillmore,

The girl I mentioned dancing was a WG on the floor, she was giving her male companion a real work over, I was erect just watching, she was smoking hot! I have to go back and get her. And re getting the dancers or hostesses outside, tell them there lives will never be the same if they go with you.

Cheers Flying Solo

Hi,

In my last visit this April, I visited kama almost every night for around 15 nights. Befriended many girls including Chinese, latinos, & even black and semi black ones. Picked a stunning latino one night and one Chinese another night. Also helped many of my friends in picking their choices, because they were first timer there, and came to Guangzhou for canton fair. Even befriended a fat black girl who worked as mamasam for me as she has many girls there in her contact. Still have numbers of some girls including the black mamasam ma**a, who was very cooperative in finding girls of our choice. I hope the experience will come handy next time, when I will go there. But one thing clear is that I give all my cent to kama. In compare to tang or any other club, and believe me I know most of them. Cheers[QUOTE=Supernova6092]Hi Folks!

I have been here since 20th May, been to Kama, the Latinos theood valuere are smoking hot they can be ours for USD 80-100 for a full night and I think itsa good deal. But I want to with a hot Chinese Woman whos complete GFE.

Please PM me if anyone willing to share. Paid 300 RMB for a girl thru a massage parlour names Ap**e. She was gud looking but no GFE at all. Was in a hurry.

Still if anyone needs the umber they are most welcome to have it.

Will try a Latino at Kama soon and will post, till then someone please let me know if they can provide a gud GFE contact.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Supernova6092]I have been going to the garden hotel almost everyday on the way to Paddy Field but see no action near Star Bucks as mentioned in the forum, does anyone no why?

Also , my Hotel at Haizu sqaure is not Girl Friendly at all as they do not allow any visitors after 11pm, any suggestions on what to do?

I also looking for some poker buddies, just fun session 100-400rmb buy ins, so if anyone is keen please lemme know, we can have a poker+drinking session and then hang out somewhere?[/QUOTE]

I have never seen acceptable SW near there. You will always find them after 10pm, but usually too fat, too old, too ugly that I will get as far away from them as possible. When I was there last week, they seemed now gather underneath the walking bridge around the corner on DongFengLu after the now-closed-Tang club. So basically they have moved south a bit to be out of sight, maybe pushed there by LE.

You didnt find what you want in Paddy? I had seen a smoking hot latino there two weeks ago but she was already having two guys all over her.

F.

[QUOTE=Flying Solo]Hey Fillmore,

The girl I mentioned dancing was a WG on the floor, she was giving her male companion a real work over, I was erect just watching, she was smoking hot! I have to go back and get her. And re getting the dancers or hostesses outside, tell them there lives will never be the same if they go with you.

Cheers Flying Solo[/QUOTE]

Wow, sorry for the misunderstanding. I thought you meant those dancing girls who danced on podiums.

As for really hot WG on the dance floors, yes, can see such once in a while and I really want to know how these guys find such girls, as you definitely won't find them in KAMA standing near the entrance.

Fillmore.

[QUOTE=PrinceMV2]Hi,

In my last visit this April, I visited kama almost every night for around 15 nights. Befriended many girls including Chinese, latinos, & even black and semi black ones. Picked a stunning latino one night and one Chinese another night. Also helped many of my friends in picking their choices, because they were first timer there, and came to Guangzhou for canton fair. Even befriended a fat black girl who worked as mamasam for me as she has many girls there in her contact. Still have numbers of some girls including the black mamasam ma**a, who was very cooperative in finding girls of our choice. I hope the experience will come handy next time, when I will go there. But one thing clear is that I give all my cent to kama. In compare to tang or any other club, and believe me I know most of them. Cheers[/QUOTE]

Good for you PrinceMV2, but everytime I went there, I could see the place lined with girls but they were just not the quality I need. So really bad luck for me then.

When Tang was open, I do occationally find suitable target. Bound usually have better quality, but it is much harder for a Chinese looking guy like me.

F.

Thanks Solo,

Awsome time last night, I think we surveyed Kama pretty well.

And congrats on your bargain! She looked like she wud be fun, the way she was moving.

I will try her tonite and the UZbek babe later on!

We'l meet again, maybe a visit to Soho on Friday/Saturday?

Any other ISG members keen?

I think we shud get together and try the KTV experience too?

[QUOTE=Flying Solo]Hey Fillmore,

The girl I mentioned dancing was a WG on the floor, she was giving her male companion a real work over, I was erect just watching, she was smoking hot! I have to go back and get her. And re getting the dancers or hostesses outside, tell them there lives will never be the same if they go with you.

Cheers Flying Solo[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Supernova6092]Thanks Solo,

Awsome time last night, I think we surveyed Kama pretty well.

And congrats on your bargain! She looked like she wud be fun, the way she was moving.

I will try her tonite and the UZbek babe later on!

We'l meet again, maybe a visit to Soho on Friday/Saturday?

Any other ISG members keen?

I think we shud get together and try the KTV experience too?[/QUOTE]Yes Supernova,

The night turn out much than I expected eventually. Kama must be an Arabian night on Tuesday because it wasn't until 2am til the asians started moving in.

Some of the prices quoted last night were insane. 1000RMB per hour, 2000 all night, even 800RMB for 1time. Guys be wary of looks that kill, trust me from experience performance outweighs looks anytime for me and last night I proved it in a big way.

We need to add an abbreviation to the list "HME". Honeymoon Experience. WOW!

As Supernova witnessed I scored an experienced WG for only 300RMB all night, we left KAMA at 3am and she left my hotel early afternoon. I knew when I started dancing with her in KAMA that she could really move. She was a 6 in looks but an 11 in performance. Everything was cool with her, but no anal.

Goodluck tonight Supernova, I'm definately going for seconds with her soon.

Like all the senior members mention, be a gentleman with these ladies and you will get back more than you bargained for. I definately did!

Yes SOHO Friday or Saturday sounds good too. Keep in touch

Flying Solo

[QUOTE=Loveboy2010]How girl friendly is the Grand Royal Hotel in Zhong Shan Avenue, Tianhe District. I will be in Guangzhou from 31st till 14th , any suggestions for mongering, since its my first china experience[/QUOTE]Hey Loveboy,

Read my posts on recent action, I will still be in Guangzhou on the 31st as well, so pm me and maybe we can meet up!!

Cheers,

Flying Solo

[quote=supernova6092]thanks solo,

awsome time last night, i think we surveyed kama pretty well.

and congrats on your bargain! she looked like she wud be fun, the way she was moving.

i will try her tonite and the uzbek babe later on!

we'l meet again, maybe a visit to soho on friday/saturday?

any other isg members keen?

i think we shud get together and try the ktv experience too?[/quote]

i am so envious of you guys as i am back to us already and i didnt see any hot girl when i was there. i did peek into a couple of ktv rooms in kama when i was there and the quality of the girls i saw was just so so, so if you want to try a ktv, better pick one of the top tie places like in baiyun hotel or asia international. i always choose to go down to zhuhai for ktv as gz is too expensive and cp ktv girls not as good quality as zhuhai, imho.

f.

i'l quote your words solo. a honeymoon!

i took her upto my room at about 8:30 in the evening. we ordered some room service. and cuddled up in bed while waiting for the food, soon the food arrived and we both ate heartily. while chatting all the time, its nice to be with someone who can talk.

we then took a shower together, and cuddled up in bed again. she smelt amazing. i wouldn't use any terms like daty, fs or whatever but it was pure unadulterated passion, for the next 45 mins! after we finished. i just put my had on her lap and she massaged my head for a while, i dnt know how long because i fell asleep, when i got up she was massaging my shoulders.

i got up and gave her the money and told her that she cud leave anytime she chose too, although she is free to stay here as long as she likes, she said shes in no hurry and will go when i am asleep. she continued to massage me and i dozed off again (very tired from the day's work and partying till 3 am yesterday night). and i woke up again and called her and said bye, then called solo and congratulaed him on the find.

maybe i am new to the mongering scene, but i think she is what i was looking for. a 10/10 gfe experience. thanks solo again, i must say you have a wonderful eye.

[quote=fillmore st]i am so envious of you guys as i am back to us already and i didn't see any hot girl when i was there. i did peek into a couple of ktv rooms in kama when i was there and the quality of the girls i saw was just so so, so if you want to try a ktv, better pick one of the top tie places like in baiyun hotel or asia international. i always choose to go down to zhuhai for ktv as guangzhou is too expensive and cp ktv girls not as good quality as zhuhai, imho.

f.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Supernova6092]I'l quote your words Solo. A honeymoon!

I took her upto my room at about 8:30 in the evening. We ordered some room service. And cuddled up in bed while waiting for the food, soon the food arrived and we both ate heartily. While chatting all the time, its nice to be with someone who can talk.

We then took a shower together, and cuddled up in bed again. She smelt amazing. I wouldn't use any terms like DATY, FS or whatever but it was pure unadulterated passion, for the next 45 mins! After we finished. I just put my had on her lap and she massaged my head for a while, I dnt know how long because I fell asleep, when I got up she was massaging my shoulders.

I got up and gave her the money and told her that she cud leave anytime she chose too, although she is free to stay here as long as she likes, she said shes in no hurry and will go when I am asleep. She continued to massage me and I dozed off again (very tired from the day's work and partying till 3 am yesterday night). And I woke up again and called her and said bye, then called Solo and congratulaed him on the find.

Maybe I am new to the mongering scene, but I think she is what I was looking for. A 10/10 GFE experience. Thanks Solo again, I must say you have a wonderful eye.[/QUOTE]Supernova,

I couldn't get her out of my head, so back to KAMA 3 nights in a row, but no sign of her yet, so I picked up my phone and called her and she was there in 5mins flat. We danced and teased many with our moves for an hour, she also brought along a friend who was feeling down from losing money gambling, so I bought the friend a drink also and told her she's stupid. Anyway more dancing with my girl, friend disappeared, so off we go! First we ate at a nearby restaurant then back to my hotel. This time we went really slowly, dancing to slow music, cudling, pashing, sweet talking for at least an hour. Then she let loose on me, guys I have never ever experienced anything close to the passion she unleased on me last night. Like Supernova quoted it was Full Unadulterated, Passionate, Wild, No Holding Back, Crazy, Mind Blowing Love Making. YES, Love making. NOT SEX! True HME! The hotel walls are pretty thin here so I expect to be getting some looks today.

Flying Solo

[QUOTE=Flying Solo]Supernova,

I couldn't get her out of my head, so back to KAMA 3 nights in a row, but no sign of her yet, so I picked up my phone and called her and she was there in 5mins flat. We danced and teased many with our moves for an hour, she also brought along a friend who was feeling down from losing money gambling, so I bought the friend a drink also and told her she's stupid. Anyway more dancing with my girl, friend disappeared, so off we go! First we ate at a nearby restaurant then back to my hotel. This time we went really slowly, dancing to slow music, cudling, pashing, sweet talking for at least an hour. Then she let loose on me, guys I have never ever experienced anything close to the passion she unleased on me last night. Like Supernova quoted it was Full Unadulterated, Passionate, Wild, No Holding Back, Crazy, Mind Blowing Love Making. YES, Love making. NOT SEX! True HME! The hotel walls are pretty thin here so I expect to be getting some looks today.

Flying Solo[/QUOTE]This all sounds great. Very happy that you had a great find. But please move on to Soho as you suggested as I can't wait to hear a report on those bars along the river. I have looked into Coco, Soho, Bio but I was not able to make out any WG among the many cute and young girls there.

F.

Fellow Mongers,

I saw brief reports on other forum on Nanhai in Foshan and wondering if any of ISG members have any experience mongering there. It was reported to be a CP-type of place with KTVs, Saunas and BBSes targeted to Guangzhou residents as it is much closer than any town in Dongguan but still far out enough of Guangzhou city to be in the LE radar.

I find myself looking for new pastures out of the usual spots like CP. Appreciate some guidance and hopefully with those info, I will venture and report back.

Thanks,

BBM007

[QUOTE=Bigboobman007]Fellow Mongers,

I saw brief reports on other forum on Nanhai in Foshan and wondering if any of ISG members have any experience mongering there. It was reported to be a CP-type of place with KTVs, Saunas and BBSes targeted to Guangzhou residents as it is much closer than any town in Dongguan but still far out enough of Guangzhou city to be in the LE radar.

I find myself looking for new pastures out of the usual spots like CP. Appreciate some guidance and hopefully with those info, I will venture and report back.

Thanks,

BBM007[/QUOTE]


Yes, your description is exactly correct, according to my local Chinese friends. If you have a car, that is exactly where you should go, rather then CP. I don't drive in China so I have not tried it on my own, only went when taken there with local Chinese and those places (Sauna) were far better then what I had tried in CP.

[QUOTE=Bigboobman007]Fellow Mongers,

I saw brief reports on other forum on Nanhai in Foshan and wondering if any of ISG members have any experience mongering there. It was reported to be a CP-type of place with KTVs, Saunas and BBSes targeted to Guangzhou residents as it is much closer than any town in Dongguan but still far out enough of Guangzhou city to be in the LE radar.

I find myself looking for new pastures out of the usual spots like CP. Appreciate some guidance and hopefully with those info, I will venture and report back.

Thanks,

BBM007[/QUOTE]
A few years ago, I used to go to Foshan very regularly when I had a bit of business there.

Foshan is favored by a lot of Guangzhou residents as they do NOT want to monger in their own town (too well known in-situ, too many prying eyes etc) - especially the higher up bureaucrats/businessmen. Pricing though is more akin to GZ than CP - a bit more expensive and facilities/places are NOT as in-your-face as in other parts of GD.

Actually, Foshan, a perfecture level city, covers a huge land area as they had incorporated a few townships:

Chancheng District (禅城区
Nanhai District (南海区
Sanshui District (三水区
Gaoming District (高明区
Shunde District (顺德区
These are further divided into 64 township-level divisions, including 37 towns and 27 subdistricts.(per Wikipedia)

I found out that it is important that you first determine which part of Foshan you want to have as your "home base'" as the place is just too big.
Please adv when you will go exploring there - may join you.... for old time sakes!! LOL!

Sorry, do not have any up-to-date info - except that I'm quite sure that you'll be able to have lots of fun/action there. I at least know that!!

SEAJ

Maggot is stationed in Foshan with decent experience. New member, just signed up and paid subscription fee, should be up and running with PM option in a day or two. PM me if you are interested. And for sure, will be posting reports once recognised as a member.

[QUOTE=Bigboobman007]Fellow Mongers,

I saw brief reports on other forum on Nanhai in Foshan and wondering if any of ISG members have any experience mongering there. It was reported to be a CP-type of place with KTVs, Saunas and BBSes targeted to Guangzhou residents as it is much closer than any town in Dongguan but still far out enough of Guangzhou city to be in the LE radar.

I find myself looking for new pastures out of the usual spots like CP. Appreciate some guidance and hopefully with those info, I will venture and report back.

Thanks,

BBM007[/QUOTE]

Maggot is new to ISG, was not aware of such a great site. Stationed in Foshan for years, Maggot did his home work quite well. RTFF for days, learned the basics, signed up after realising he was ready to be a member, and then paid subscription fee.

Maggot would appreciate any member in and around Foshan (Guangzhou included) to PM him to share info.

Maggot will be posting reports from time to time.

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Hi. I am new here. Will be visiting guangzhou between 24-27 June.

Planning to stay at Crowne Plaza Guangzhou Science City hotel.

Is there any action in there?

Please advise

Will be staying at Crowne Plaza Guangzhou Science City from 24 June to 27 June.

Is this hotel female friendly? Is there any action?

Please advise

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]A few years ago, I used to go to Foshan very regularly when I had a bit of business there.

Foshan is favored by a lot of Guangzhou residents as they do NOT want to monger in their own town (too well known in-situ, too many prying eyes etc) - especially the higher up bureaucrats/businessmen. Pricing though is more akin to GZ than CP - a bit more expensive and facilities/places are NOT as in-your-face as in other parts of GD.

Actually, Foshan, a perfecture level city, covers a huge land area as they had incorporated a few townships:

Chancheng District (禅城区
Nanhai District (南海区
Sanshui District (三水区
Gaoming District (高明区
Shunde District (顺德区
These are further divided into 64 township-level divisions, including 37 towns and 27 subdistricts.(per Wikipedia)

I found out that it is important that you first determine which part of Foshan you want to have as your "home base'" as the place is just too big.
Please adv when you will go exploring there - may join you.... for old time sakes!! LOL!

Sorry, do not have any up-to-date info - except that I'm quite sure that you'll be able to have lots of fun/action there. I at least know that!!

SEAJ[/QUOTE]Seaj,

I was at Shunde a 6 month ago didn't find any action, so me and my buddy drove to a small town Beijiao very near Chencun about 30 min south /west of Foshan city, there are many KTV and sauna in this town not as many as CP but we did find sauna offer FS for around 400 rmb, my buddy told me there are many bbs a few yr back but is all closed down, yes Foshan county is big many red light area you need someone that know the area to find fun.

Fast Eddie 48

Kai Yue Hotel in Chancheng district, on Jiang Wan 1 Lu. If you head to ceramics city from the city centre, its about 100m after the fly over intersection of Foshan avenue, on the right side. Go straight to the 2nd floor (3rd floor if you are following Chinese system), the lift is at your 1 o'clock across the lobby entrance. Rooms are nothing to shout about, but sufficient. Quite a decent collection of girls, usual service menu of a typical sauna in China. Duration is 120 mins - RMB 318 for one pop, RMB 418 for 2 pops, and RMB 518 for 3 or more pops. English is not spoken at this establishment.

Happy hunting.

Shunde is supposed to be monger's heaven, but only if you know the right places, or know how to find them.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Seaj,

I was at Shunde a 6 month ago didn't find any action, so me and my buddy drove to a small town Beijiao very near Chencun about 30 min south /west of Foshan city, there are many KTV and sauna in this town not as many as CP but we did find sauna offer FS for around 400 rmb, my buddy told me there are many bbs a few yr back but is all closed down, yes Foshan county is big many red light area you need someone that know the area to find fun.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mind Maggot]Shunde is supposed to be monger's heaven, but only if you know the right places, or know how to find them.[/QUOTE]Mind,

My buddy live in shunde for 5 yr he told me there are many bbs and SW actions 5 yr ago, but the crack down last yr closed most of them that same go for foshan area, I check most of the sauna there a few month ago most are closed or no FS is offer, if you know any sauna or bbs why don't you post some incuded name and adress.






Fast Eddie 48

Maggot is a new member here, trying to do his bits. Shunde is a part of Foshan, just 10 mins drive from the city centre. BBS scene is nearly vapourised from the whole city, its saunas that are still alive. Not much real experience in Shunde, heard from buddies, so need to explore. Will probably head to Shunde this weekend. Sure will post names and addresses.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Mind,

My buddy live in shunde for 5 yr he told me there are many bbs and AW actins 5 yr ago, but the crack down last yr closed most of them that same go for foshan area, I check most of the sauna there a few month ago most are closed or no FS is offer, if you know any sauna or bbs why don't you post some incuded name and adress.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mind Maggot]Maggot is a new member here, trying to do his bits. Shunde is a part of Foshan, just 10 mins drive from the city centre. BBS scene is nearly vapourised from the whole city, its saunas that are still alive. Not much real experience in Shunde, heard from buddies, so need to explore. Will probably head to Shunde this weekend. Sure will post names and addresses.[/QUOTE




to Mind maggot





I don't think shunde is a monger heaven ,I only been there twice is a tourist city with alot of history a very clean city good great retirement ,I think you need to get out more there are much better city for mongering in Guangzhou than Shunde ,most Hong konger go to CP for mongering and they take their family to Shunde for the weekend .

Fast eddie 48

Hey all,

I know I've not contributed much on these forums of late - but that's because my trips to China have become few and far in between. Although, I do not claim that this information is current as of today, but this was an experience a few weeks ago in the Panyu district of Guangzhou.

The Shichang Hotel's sauna is still quite active. Their rooms are still excellent, and they offer in-room porn for a 90 min - 120 min 1-time session for RMB 800. I know, it is pricey but the girl that I had was fantastic. I don't know how much prices have risen in South China, but this was my first visit in a long time, so I decided to pay up that much.

The following day, I went back and there is another sauna right next to Shichang hotel. This one may or may not be a hotel - I can't confirm. You go in, ask for a VIP room and the price is 560 or 600 - I can't recall - and they take you up 2 floor from the staircase where they have the separate FS rooms with a built-in bathroom and such. Service was not as good as Shichang, but wasn't bad - I may just have had good luck with the girl @ Shichang but again the price was slightly lower too.

On my way back to my hotel past 1 am, I did see a few BBSs around the area with a few girls sitting in. Didn't go in to them or check the prices out. I suppose OAH can give in more up-to-date reports on Panyu.

On a sidenote, there seems to be a SPA/Sauna right next to Panyu Hotel - anyone tried that of late? OAH - do they offer any FS? And just so I do not overpay next time (if I did) are there any other sauna+FS in the area in the RMB 400-500 range?

Fast Eddie

Maggot will stand by his assumption about Shunde being a heaven. Nearby Chancheng and Nanhai districts are, cant see why Shunde be any different. Admit that there are more options in Guangzhou, but its a mega city. CP is CP, infamous in its own merit. Anyway, Maggot needs to find more details about Shunde and prove it. Situation permits, will explore the whole area this weekend or the next. So next time you're in town, you wont have to waste time searching for spots.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Mind maggot,

I don't think shunde is a monger heaven ,I only been have twice is a tourist city with alot of history a very clean city good great retirement ,I think you need to get out more there are much better city for mongering in Guangzhou than Shunde ,most Hong konger go to CP for mongering and they take their family to Shunde for the weekend .

Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]This all sounds great. Very happy that you had a great find. But please move on to Soho as you suggested as I can't wait to hear a report on those bars along the river. I have looked into Coco, Soho, Bio but I was not able to make out any WG among the many cute and young girls there.

F.[/QUOTE]Fillmore, checked out the river bar scene the last 5 nights, from Soho, Real Players, Babyface, Bound (great chill club plus roof top garden. Very cool for Guangzhou standards). Yes, you're right, very hard to distinguish the cuties from the WG's, but they are there. We spotted several familiar faces from Kama, Gypsy and Cave Bar hanging out at these bars early in the week, Sunday. Tuesday.

Last night I was in Bound with 2 ISG buddies when I received a call from a Kama girl I spoke to Sunday night, so I invited her to join us and asked her to bring some friends. An hour later she rocks up alone, sees us and runs away, I chase her to the lift, she tells me she didn't realise I had friends (misunderstanding) and was not comfortable. I offered taxi money, she refused and left. We then finish up and return to our respective hotels around 2. 30 to 3am, 4am she sms me "YOU COME SOHO", I call her back and tell her I'm almost asleep and goodnight. 4. 35am now sleeping another sms "WHERE your HOTEL", again I call her back and she tells me she's drunkk and needs help. I tell her to get into taxi and call me, I tell taxi driver where to go. I greet her and she just sticks her tongue right down my throat in the lobby. I whisk her to my room quickly because at 5am nobody is around and she was out of control and loud. I already have a reputation at this hotel, all the male staff tell me "you have many beautiful girl" I just grin. Anyway Into the room, she drops onto the bed, I lay next to her and again DTK for 10mins. I shower, shave and return. I like slow but she was wild, an amazing slim firm tight body with small handful breasts, she moved like a snake. Followed with DATY, BBBJ (fantastic. Sucked me so hard), she came and on with the tent and away we go for a marathon session. Finished with doggy. Laid together, talked, listened to some music and cuddled. Then she starts to wake up Johnny again, it's 6am even Johnny needs rest. But she insisted, so round 2 starts this time BBBJ lasted for a long time and then straight into missionary she came again and again, however Johnny was KO. I told her I need at least 3 hrs sleep and said she could stay, but she wanted to go. Kiss Goodbye and the best part of it, NO MONEY! FREEBIE FREEBIE FREEBIE you could say from SOHO. It's given me a new prospective on girls who want to gave a drink and then really let go!

Cheers.

Flying Solo

[QUOTE=Flying Solo]... an amazing slim firm tight body with small handful breasts ...
Flying Solo[/QUOTE]

Great story Solo. For such a body, even if look was 6 (from your earlier post), many will be willing to part 1000, and yet you got her for FREE. You really know how to get the girls in GZ.

When I go to GZ again, I will definitely need to track her down.

Fillmore.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]Great story Solo. For such a body, even if look was 6 (from your earlier post), many will be willing to part 1000, and yet you got her for FREE. You really know how to get the girls in GZ.

When I go to GZ again, I will definitely need to track her down.

Fillmore.[/QUOTE]Not a GREAT story, All FACT!

To keep the relationship in tact I took her to a nice seafood restaurant and then onto Hill Bar last night to thank her. Ok it cost me 500rmb last night for company only but sure now I'm in the good books. Play the cool never desperate game and yoy win more times than lose.

Cheers,

Flying Solo

Dear friend finally I stay one week in Guangzhou and I am very thirsty, nothing good, if you want sex please go to massage parlour is more cheap and for your health is good.

The rest is shit. The discos nothing of nothing of expensive thing.

The clubs. Puff

I prefer to go Tailand or philipinas near and cheap.

[QUOTE=Flying Solo]Not a GREAT story, All FACT!

To keep the relationship in tact I took her to a nice seafood restaurant and then onto Hill Bar last night to thank her. Ok it cost me 500rmb last night for company only but sure now I'm in the good books. Play the cool never desperate game and yoy win more times than lose.

Cheers,

Flying Solo[/QUOTE]

Nice guy, Solo!

Have you been to 9th Garden? That is where I usually take a girl to for a nice glass of Australian wine, before taking her back to my hotel. It is on the same side of Tang and pretty much next to it. That is a far more romantic place then Hill Bar.

Of all of Guangzhou, the roof top of Bound and 9th Garden, are my top picks for late night spots with a GF girl. The lobby bar of White Swan hotel is pretty nice too, if on a rainy day.

Fillmore.

I have received many PM's asking where is Xicun metro station, to find the Ming Hong Hotel. It's on Line 5, which is a relatively new line and is not marked on some older maps. However all the metro stations have plenty current maps posted all over their walls. Here's a current GZ metro system map link, [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Guangzhou_Metro_MapA.png[/url]

Cheers,

Solo

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]Nice guy, Solo!

Have you been to 9th Garden? That is where I usually take a girl to for a nice glass of Australian wine.

Fillmore.[/QUOTE]No, haven't been to 9th Garden, but will check it out this week (my last week) SAD! But the good news, back in a month.

Fillmore, just found out being to nice sometimes can get you into real trouble.

Played it cool with the girl from Soho and didn't call her back after I received a missed call from her 6. 00am the following morning. Then last night I'm with my regular on and off Guangzhou GF in my hotel when at 4. 45am both asleep, KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK. I get up, luckily the GF is moaning and still asleep, I answer the door and SOHO girl tries to barge in. I stop her and tell her I'm really sick, she's got to go now. That's when the thought crossed my mind "Double Trouble" and "Freebie" at once. I quickly decided "NO" and forced her to leave.

GF wakes up and asks what's going on, I tell her some drunk girl knocking on all doors, she replies "some girls just do that to try and get guys to pay for sex". I replied "I didn't know that" and back to sleep.

When I check out, some lucky guy might score because of my hard work.

I will definately be requesting the same room on my return.

Cheers,

Solo

[QUOTE=Flying Solo]No, haven't been to 9th Garden, but will check it out this week (my last week) SAD! But the good news, back in a month.
I will definately be requesting the same room on my return.

Cheers,

Solo[/QUOTE]

Any chance you might share some ID as to your hotel with us??

[QUOTE=MegaPoint]Any chance you might share some ID as to your hotel with us??[/QUOTE]Megapoint,

I'm staying in a clean modest 3 star hotel called Shang Jiu Wan Hotel in Liwan District Guangzhou. It's located 5mins walk from Holiday Inn Shifu and 10 to 15min walk to Shamian Island (Victory Hotel). The road is a pedestrian street so many many young pretty things to look at day & night. However, at night a little shady.

Cheers,

Solo

Hi,

I have just moved back to China and started this hobby again so therefore I decided it was time to submit my first report. I have read the forum for a while and decided now while I am business in Guangzhou I should visit the much talked about the Ming Hong Hotel, but alas the taxi driver dropped me off in front of the wrong Hotel which I did not notice.

While walking around trying to find Ming Hong Hotel, I noticed another Hotel sort of in a back yard and decided to have a look. My Chinese is very limited but managed to find the sauna which was not difficult and asked for a body massage. I was very surprised when the price was 118 rmb, but decided to run with it and see what happened. They led me in to a pretty old but ok changing room. Once the shower and the pyjama part was out of the way they asked what I wanted to drink and I went for a beer before the massage, which I down pretty quick.

Two quite hot hostess led me into the massage room and I settled for the 2nd girl they showed, me massage was very bleak and after about 20 minutes she asked if I wanted more services, to which I replied yes, she asked for 200 rmb for full services. I had to go out and get the money from the locker while she got the condom etc. Once back in the room we had continued where we left off.

As for the look I would rate her about 6.5, the services was OK but nothing special, she did not provide andy BJ, not even covered, but the geeral attitude was OK so for the ratings:

L: 6.5
S: 5
A: 5

Would I go back, I think so because I have the feeling that the service might be better the second time around since this place clearly do not usually cater for foreigners and for the price 118 massage + 10 beer plus 200 FS you can not complain to much.

A friend told me to take extra care mongering these days - and that some kind of heavy duty crack down is starting to happen.

SUPPOSEDLY - Sunday Morning/Saturday night at approx 2;30 AM, the police raided a GZ KTV on the pretext that the place was only allowed to operate to 2:00 am. They detained all 600 Staff AND customers the whole night until late the next morning/noon. Arrested 5 of them for drug related offense.

The authorities there also SUPPOSSEDLY announced that an extensive "Yellow Sweep" is starting and that all citizens should take heed - or some such announcement.

Anybody here heard anything more?

SEAJ

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]A friend told me to take extra care mongering these days - and that some kind of heavy duty crack down is starting to happen.

SUPPOSEDLY - Sunday Morning/Saturday night at approx 2;30 AM, the police raided a GZ KTV on the pretext that the place was only allowed to operate to 2:00 am. They detained all 600 Staff AND customers the whole night until late the next morning/noon. Arrested 5 of them for drug related offense.

The authorities there also SUPPOSSEDLY announced that an extensive "Yellow Sweep" is starting and that all citizens should take heed - or some such announcement.

Anybody here heard anything more?

SEAJ[/QUOTE]

Only what is on the TV, but raids on KTV happens often in GZ. I once walked into one, and kept for a hr even though I was only entering the place, and I saw same type of heavy duty flash light holding LE all over the place.

Well, hope this will be contained in GZ due to the Asia game and not to spread to CP and ZH.

Fillmore

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]Only what is on the TV, but raids on KTV happens often in GZ. I once walked into one, and kept for a hr even though I was only entering the place, and I saw same type of heavy duty flash light holding LE all over the place.

Well, hope this will be contained in GZ due to the Asia game and not to spread to CP and ZH.

Fillmore[/QUOTE]

广州警方持冲锋枪查KTV 600人被带走(现场) VIDEO NEWS LINK

A video link to the RAID in Guangzhou. I have been to this area several time and there are many bars and KTV's on just two blocks. For the KTV that got RAIDED, it's mostly young kids when I walked by this KTV. There are others KTV and bars that have an older crowd.


[url]http://v.ku6.com/special/show_3799809/8jDqQR57zuBdxVNc.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Weelock]广州警方持冲锋枪查KTV 600人被带走(现场) VIDEO NEWS LINK

A video link to the RAID in Guangzhou. I have been to this area several time and there are many bars and KTV's on just two blocks. For the KTV that got RAIDED, it's mostly young kids when I walked by this KTV. There are others KTV and bars that have an older crowd.

[url]http://v.ku6.com/special/show_3799809/8jDqQR57zuBdxVNc.html[/url][/QUOTE]This looks to be at a place between Panyu and Shunde.

Here is a google map near to the location.

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&q=east+asia+hotel+guangzhou&fb=1&gl=us&hq=east+asia+hotel&hnear=Guangzhou,+Guangdong,+China&view=map&cid=9698308263529332425&ved=0CBsQpQY&ei=534OTLzYE4ruigOV29wm&ll=22.804915,113.41356&spn=0.004006,0.006491&z=17[/url]

Dar

[QUOTE=Dar425]This looks to be at a place between Panyu and Shunde.

Here is a google map near to the location.

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&q=east+asia+hotel+guangzhou&fb=1&gl=us&hq=east+asia+hotel&hnear=Guangzhou,+Guangdong,+China&view=map&cid=9698308263529332425&ved=0CBsQpQY&ei=534OTLzYE4ruigOV29wm&ll=22.804915,113.41356&spn=0.004006,0.006491&z=17[/url]

Dar[/QUOTE]No, this is in GZ, downtown, near all the bars and clubs like Soho, Baby Face etc! I have been to this place, it is called 歌哥, mostly a hangout for young people, not even a CP like KTV, as it does not have many girls.


F.

Guys,

Can any one tell me some good places in Guangzhou for fun.

Please give me the address of these places!

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]If you do get to stay in that hotel (very popular and difficult to find room), maybe you can check out their sauna. I had not tried as I prefer bar hunting, but I did see a sexy looking display on the lobby.

As I suggested in another post, always bring in some cash, like hide in your cellphone case, just in case the legit sauna might actually offer extra services if you have the case with you, on your supposedly naked body.

Please let me know what you find if you do end up going there, by PM, as the LE are also reading this board.

Fillmore.[/QUOTE]Fillmore - indeed, I stayed at the Canton, with no trouble booking a room there. Thanks for the tip.

As to the sauna, no need to surreptitiously bring cash in case extras can be had at a legit place - not much legit about this place! I stepped out of the elevator around midnight on a Saturday night and was greeted by a young guy who spoke a little English, but really not much. The menu included quite a few options. They made it clear to me right away that more than merely legit massages were available by bringing out their hostess when I was hesitating and talking about her endlessly as a sexy lady, and that sex massage was available. It was pretty pushy service from the start.

I was pushed to decide right away what kind of massage I wanted, and then ushered in to a very typical sauna scene - changing area, showers and then on to the lounge area with tvs and comfortable seating for customers... with some very pushy helping boys who acted like I was a strange species they had never seen and were pretty rude about it, and also very pushy for tips. There were maybe two other customers in evidence there at midnight on a Saturday night, which I found surprising for a place offering everything. I hadn't sat for more than a minute when mamasan brought a cute young girl in a sexy skirt and asked whether she would be ok for my massage. I said fine, and off we went to a room that looked more like a basic hotel room than a massage room - it had a bed and nightstands, and not much more.

I was not in the mood for the full service here, but did want to check out the scene. I had chosen the "Thai" massage, since I prefer massages with oil and it includes that in its description. The "Thai" massage had little resemblance to a traditional Thai massage, but that was ok, as I prefer an oil massage. But the version I received seemed more like a Chinese massage for the most part - with the exception that at the end my pants came down and out came the oil for a handjob with the girl sitting between my legs. I subsequently received exactly the same treatment in the South America Hotel sauna, so on the basis of these two experiences, I concluded that "Thai" massage in Guangzhou means a massage with a happy ending.

Service was ok, and I got ready to return to my room. Everybody and his brother wanted a tip, which I did not remember experiencing elsewhere in China in such a pushy way. There was a tip box in the changing area and the three guys who "helped" me me with towels and pointing insisted each one should have 100rmb. I dripped 20 into the box and they were pretty pissed, but that was all I would give them for doing so little and being so pushy.

I can't remember the damage for the massage - something like 250 - 300 for a 90 minute thai massage, but don't quote me on it.

So, everything is possible here, but watch out for the tiphounds!

Stew2

[QUOTE=Stew2]...I was not in the mood for the full service here, ..., so on the basis of these two experiences, I concluded that "Thai" massage in Guangzhou means a massage with a happy ending.[/QUOTE]Thanks for reporting back!

Good to see the place offered full service, but if everyone so pushy for tips there, then not good. Yes, just give those bus boys 20 is good.

Too bad, you didnt want full serive, as the key of a good sauna experience is to find girls who can do excellent BBBJ and can truey enjoy the love making(GFE), which is not easy to find anywhere.

Fillmore.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]Thanks for reporting back!

Good to see the place offered full service, but if everyone so pushy for tips there, then not good. Yes, just give those bus boys 20 is good.

Too bad, you didnt want full serive, as the key of a good sauna experience is to find girls who can do excellent BBBJ and can truey enjoy the love making(GFE), which is not easy to find anywhere.

Fillmore.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I do like the sauna scene as much as the next guy, but having just come from three straight nights of it in Macau, I wanted a break.

Hi Stew & Filmore,

Is it this one you are talking about:

Hotel Canton 374 Beijing Road Yue Xiu Distr, Guangzhou, 510000

[QUOTE=Vompat]Hi Stew & Filmore,

Is it this one you are talking about:

Hotel Canton 374 Beijing Road Yue Xiu Distr, Guangzhou, 510000[/QUOTE]That's it.

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone would help me out. I am from the colombo forum and may visit the region in the near future. Was wondering if anyone knows where I can score some threesome action? (2ladies).

Help would be great.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Danny Yu]Hi,

I was wondering if anyone would help me out. I am from the colombo forum and may visit the region in the near future. Was wondering if anyone knows where I can score some threesome action? (2ladies).

Help would be great.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

Easy enough. In fact, everytime I got out of a ktv, I ended up bringing two girls back to my hotel, just can't help it. Just one girl usually have better GFE but when you are at the end of a long ktv evening with both girls equally pretty and sexy and good to you, what do you do?

I guess you need to be more specific, like exactly where and in what venues. In bars, most WGs have friends and they are more then eager to push their less attractive friend to go with you, the same can be said about sanna. KTV is where you find the 8,9/10 girls and in order to have a good threesome, the two girls will need to like each other, so may not work the first time you try, especially the 9/10 girls, they usually will only do that if the other girl is to the same quality, and it is hard to have two 9/10 in the same night.

F.

I recently spent my first few days in Guangzhou. Enjoyed it thoroughly. Here's the report on the relevant stuff:

Stayed in the Hotel Canton, thanks to recommendations here (Thx Fillmore). It was a comfortable and convenient location for someone unfamiliar with the city. Reasonably centrally located, within walking distance of a metro stop, many restaurants (some with some without English menus - both were fun) and the shopping/walking street Beijing Lu (actually the hotel is situated at the very north end of that street). Beijing Lu held little interest for shopping for me, as the clothing and items sold here are all fairly typical of the things I could easily buy at home in the USA rather than anything especially Chinese, but the fun part is that this is such a scene of couples, friends and family groups in the evenings out for a stroll and shopping. The portions of the street that are closed to vehicles became jam packed with people having a nice time - it was an enjoyable scene to watch. If course, there are the touts who try to lead you into a shop to buy watches or t-shirts - they are the only real annoyance I found there. Eventually I learned to just brush them away with "pu yuan" (no money, no thanks - the pronunciation was close enough between the two that I wasn't sure which they heard from me, but it seemed to get rid of them in any case)... The restaurants I found interesting (had a killer noodle dinner for 10 yuan one night) are to be found about half way down where the traffic begins again, on a road that crosses Beijing Lu.

Walking down Beijing Lu all the way to the river was a good hike - maybe about 3 kilometers? But once I got there, I found another nighttime scene that was quite fun. I had decided to check out the sauna at the South America Hotel, which is on the southern (opposite) side of the river, quite a ways to the east of where Beijing Lu meets the river. I has nothing to do that was pressing and enjoy walking - it was a warm, but not too warm evening - so I decided to see whether I could find it on foot. I walked along the river for quite a while, and then decided to cross on one of the bridges and see what was up on the other side. Of course, the map I had did not have the hotel, but I had estimated from a google map search where it was, and it should be visible from the road along the river. I probably walked another 5 kilometers and was about to give up when I suddenly found myself in front of it!

The South America Hotel sauna - ok, you walk in and there is a sign for a spa, but not one immediately for a sauna, so without thinking I allowed myself to be led to the elevator and the 4th floor for the spa. I was led to a couch and shown the menu. Something didn't seem right. Prices were too high and there were too many herbal wrap and facial remedies to be the right place. So I asked if this was the only place for a massage and was redirected back to the lobby, where, had I walked around the side of the reception I would have been greeted by someone to sign me in to the sauna after taking my shoes and giving me sandals. Having de-shoed, I walked up the flight of stairs to the changing room - now that is beginning to look more like a sauna' albeit a very modern one. Stowed my stuff away in a locker and headed in to the main part - there's an area with tables for relaxing andf eating from the free food and drink bar (not to much there, but a snack can be had), as well as lots of pools with water of varying temperature, various kinds of spray thingies that can be aimed at different parts of your body for faux massage effect, etc. Showered first and then spent a while in the hot pool - it was good and hot - and then emerged. A couple of guys offered me this or that kind of body scrub, but I declined since I was heading up another floor for a real massage. Got there and signed in for a Thai massage.

The rooms are quite nice, though they have a window on the doors, which means any unapproved hanky panky can be witnessed, so I knew it was probably a by the book kind of place. Since I had learned at the sauna at the Hotel Canton the night before that "Thai oil massage" in these parts in code for a nicely oiled happy ending, I chose that. My masseuse was a cute young girl (they all seemed quite easy on the eyes as I looked around on going in), wearing a uniform that consisted of short white skirt and t-shirt, sort of on the edge of being a sexual uniform, but not quite. Got settled in and had a nice massage, with indeed a very matter of fact ending where the girl asked me if I wanted a HJ (using the universal sign language), and then reaching up and pulling down the shorts they had me in for the massage and sitting between my legs with a bottle of oil. She was quite good at it, and an enjoyable time was had for little Stew.

Up on another floor there is a cafeteria where you can pay for a complete meal. One interesting thing about this sauna is that it is not only for men. Men and women are in separate areas, but when you go upstairs to eat or to get a massage, you have to wear your little shorts and shirt outfit, because there will be women customers in the waiting and eating areas also.

Well, a fine time was had for a few hours at the South America Hotel sauna, and then I emerged quite late in the evening (maybe around 11) and started walking back to my hotel. I crossed the river right away (there are 4 or 5 bridges I could have used) and ended up walking on the north side of the river most of the way. The boardwalk there is quite a lively scene. Some of the bars/clubs that others have written about as pickup joints are along the river here, as well as many restaurants. On the boardwalk itself you'll find kids practicing rollerblading tricks and SWs practicing another kind of trick. I was approached by at least 10 as I strolled along the walk, some ok, but none particularly catching my fancy enough to take her back to my place. Had a meal and walked the rest of the way back to my hotel. End of a tiring but enjoyable night in Guangzhou!

Thanks for your report.

Did you try Canton Hotel Sauna? I would like to know if they offer anything else than HJ.

Were the SW on Peking Lu?

Do you know if Canton Hotel is girl friendly hotel?

Booked it for September, that is why I am very interested.

[QUOTE=Vompat]Thanks for your report.

Did you try Canton Hotel Sauna? I would like to know if they offer anything else than HJ.

Were the SW on Peking Lu?

Do you know if Canton Hotel is girl friendly hotel?

Booked it for September, that is why I am very interested.[/QUOTE]

Look about 5 posts earlier (#1078)- I discussed the Canton sauna there. Clearly more is on offer there than HJ. Did not see any SWs on Beijing Lu.

I understand the hotel is GF from other posts, but did not try myself.

[QUOTE=Vompat]Thanks for your report.

Did you try Canton Hotel Sauna? I would like to know if they offer anything else than HJ.

Were the SW on Peking Lu?

Do you know if Canton Hotel is girl friendly hotel?

Booked it for September, that is why I am very interested.[/QUOTE]


Excellent report from Stew, great job man!
SW can only be found either near Garden Hotel area, or along the river as Stew observed. Those near the river are usually much older and you will not want to get anywhere near them. SW near Garden Hotel also no good. Aside from sauna, GZ is a bar/club big city, so you will have much better chance to find WG in bars. Too bad Stew was too tired from his long walk that he probably didnt try out these bars. Those along the river have the best looking girls, but very hard to get to them, so most people just take the easy road to Kama.

As for Hotel Canton, it was girl friendly when I stayed in the last few years. You take the girl back from the back entrance. There were a couple of security guys there but they never stopped me, even though it was after 11pm, the typical cut off time in other hotels. With all the crack down going on before the asia game though, things can change.

I will be in GZ in Sept as well, so if you would like, we can hook up to hunt in the bars.

Fillmore.

Thanks for the suggestion.

I am in GZ only 3 nights, 16th to 19th of Sep. and I am working long days. That is why I wanter to have hotel with a full service spa or street workers downstairs.

But lets see if our shcedules match.

I'm in GZ for the next 2 weeks, if anybody wants to go out and hit some bars and needs a wingman, PM me. I used to live in China about 8 years ago and I still can speak some chinese. Not great but enough to get by and chat up with the girls. I'm not into saunas or massage, I like meeting freelancers (or freebies) at bars and discos. Also going to make a trip down to Macau for a few days...
Its good to be back here, man I miss this country!

Guys, I'm coming back soon!!! And I can't wait.

The western world offers jack s**t compared to China.

Unless your a billionaire.

Flying Solo

I have tried the full dragon service in Shanghai and Foshan.

Any one know such place in GZ?

[QUOTE=Flying Solo]Guys, I'm coming back soon!!! And I can't wait.

The western world offers jack s**t compared to China.

Unless your a billionaire.

Flying Solo[/QUOTE]Started this hobby in the US. Korean Spa or Sauna. From 160-200 full fucking service. Table shower, massage with varying degrees of touch and some of the best fucking you will find in the world -- period. Korean pussy tastes very good. The girls are friendly and they will talk to each other. They will tell you when they are going to rotate and who you could see the next time. Worked for me for 15 years.

Hi guys,

Noticed the forum seems to be a bit slow on reports. Is this because action is hard to come by in Guangzhou? I hope not. Was planning a trip at the end of the month and was wondering what the scene generally is? Like is it easy to pick up girls and take them back to the hotel? Are hired escorts a good option? Can I randomly pick up girls? Please help me out guys! I don't know where else to go for help with this sort of thing and I really don't want to miss out!

Looking for the best places with the most beautiful women! Please help!

Thank you so much!

[QUOTE=Danny Yu]Hi guys,

Noticed the forum seems to be a bit slow on reports. Is this because action is hard to come by in Guangzhou? I hope not. Was planning a trip at the end of the month and was wondering what the scene generally is? Like is it easy to pick up girls and take them back to the hotel? Are hired escorts a good option? Can I randomly pick up girls? Please help me out guys! I don't know where else to go for help with this sort of thing and I really don't want to miss out!

Looking for the best places with the most beautiful women! Please help!

Thank you so much![/QUOTE]

Yes, most in GZ are business travellers who do not care to post anything.

If you want the most beautiful, then consider Marau. GZ does have very beautiful WGs but they are hard to get to. Only way I know is through ktv and you need to have multiple visits before any of such girl will consider going back to your hotel. If you are not a high roller, best bet is to take the train to CP, it is only 40 min from GZ but you do need to stay in a hotel in CP rather then GZ, that would be the drawback.

F.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]Yes, most in GZ are business travellers who do not care to post anything.

If you want the most beautiful, then consider Marau. GZ does have very beautiful WGs but they are hard to get to. Only way I know is through ktv and you need to have multiple visits before any of such girl will consider going back to your hotel. If you are not a high roller, best bet is to take the train to CP, it is only 40 min from GZ but you do need to stay in a hotel in CP rather then GZ, that would be the drawback.

F.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info bro! I assume marau is a spa of some sort? Also what about the escort scene is it wise and worth? What does a high roller mean like how much would it cost me? I guess the easiest and only way is to get a escort over right? What about the spas? Do you get good service there? Thanks man I really am clueless and a bit afraid!

[QUOTE=Dkl001]Hey all,

I know I've not contributed much on these forums of late - but that's because my trips to China have become few and far in between. Although, I do not claim that this information is current as of today, but this was an experience a few weeks ago in the Panyu district of Guangzhou.

The Shichang Hotel's sauna is still quite active. Their rooms are still excellent, and they offer in-room porn for a 90 min - 120 min 1-time session for RMB 800. I know, it is pricey but the girl that I had was fantastic. I don't know how much prices have risen in South China, but this was my first visit in a long time, so I decided to pay up that much.

The following day, I went back and there is another sauna right next to Shichang hotel. This one may or may not be a hotel - I can't confirm. You go in, ask for a VIP room and the price is 560 or 600 - I can't recall - and they take you up 2 floor from the staircase where they have the separate FS rooms with a built-in bathroom and such. Service was not as good as Shichang, but wasn't bad - I may just have had good luck with the girl @ Shichang but again the price was slightly lower too.

On my way back to my hotel past 1 am, I did see a few BBSs around the area with a few girls sitting in. Didn't go in to them or check the prices out. I suppose OAH can give in more up-to-date reports on Panyu.

On a sidenote, there seems to be a SPA/Sauna right next to Panyu Hotel - anyone tried that of late? OAH - do they offer any FS? And just so I do not overpay next time (if I did) are there any other sauna+FS in the area in the RMB 400-500 range?[/QUOTE]


Dkl001,

Sorry for the delayed reply. I have a buddy that has a regular girl he sees at the Sichang Sauna and he pays 700 so you did not pay that much over. The sauna next door is a sister operation with another place nearby. It is next to another hotel but I can never remember the street names. If you take a left after the McDonalds next to the Panyu Hotel, go up past the bus station to the first intersection and turn right, it is just past the police station on the left hand side. The price in both places is 560 RMB, but line-ups have been thin when I have stopped by.

I am not familiar with a FS sauna next to the Panyu Hotel, but if you are talking about the place off the pedestrian overpass, it used to be legit but I've not checked it out for a couple of years.

I really need to do some more hunting in the area. Recently, most of the SW are gone, even late at night. And, even the one BBS that had survived nearly every crackdown to date was shut when I drove by a couple of days ago and all the former cheap HJ joints are history in the area. I am keen to know what BBS you walked by. I only know of one other BBS where HJ/BJ is available upstairs but nearly all the girls are porkchops.

OAH

[QUOTE=Waldeck2]Started this hobby in the US. Korean Spa or Sauna. From 160-200 full fucking service. Table shower, massage with varying degrees of touch and some of the best fucking you will find in the world -- period. Korean pussy tastes very good. The girls are friendly and they will talk to each other. They will tell you when they are going to rotate and who you could see the next time. Worked for me for 15 years.[/QUOTE]

koreans do taste good but 90% of them are enhanced and have dark tans which I am not a fan of.

[QUOTE=Danny Yu]Thanks for the info bro! I assume marau is a spa of some sort?
[/QUOTE]The bro probably means Macau. Can any GZ dudes fill us in on best ways to go there from GZ and costs? And in the present crack down in DG and GZ is Macau better to go?

[QUOTE=Middleway]The bro probably means Macau. Can any GZ dudes fill us in on best ways to go there from GZ and costs? And in the present crack down in DG and GZ is Macau better to go?[/QUOTE]

The easiest way to get to Macau from GZ is by bus. It's about 2.5hrs depneding on where is GZ you pick up the bus and at what time of the day due to traffic. The bus picks up from hotels like China Hotel and also the airport. Costs are about 20-30 USD. It's an air conditioned bus with comfortable seating. The only thing you have to get used to is the hocking and spitting around you.

[QUOTE=Corpo]The only thing you have to get used to is the hocking and spitting around you.[/QUOTE]Shit! No way, bro. LOL

Thanks for the info! Say, any announcement yet when train service between GZ and Zuhai starts?

[QUOTE=Middleway]Shit! No way, bro. LOL

Thanks for the info! Say, any announcement yet when train service between GZ and Zuhai starts?[/QUOTE]

According to this, it is supposed to be this year, by the end of the year though

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangzhou%E2%80%93Zhuhai_Intercity_Mass_Rapid_Transit[/url]

Also this

[url]http://www.zsnews.cn/news/2010/04/19/1396323.shtml[/url]

Zhongzhan will become a second CP?

Prepare to see ZH ktv price to skyrocket. If that happens, I would rather they don't build this and I am quite content with the bus. I have never seen any spitting on the GZ->ZH business express bus and it is actually more comfortable then the train from GZ to CP, to be honest.


Sorry to Denny Yu that I misspelled Macau in my earlier post. That is really where you will find the most beautiful, and some do cycle back to Zhuhai for a break and that is why I perfer Zhuhai over CP as I do find high quality ktv girls, some are the same hot shots you would find in Macau.


As for GZ, many have posted and your options are limited and best choices are the bars. CP would still be your best bet if you can stay in a hotel there, same deal with ZH/Macau though. You should go to the Dongguan board to hook up with BSDavid.

Fillmore

[QUOTE=Middleway]Shit! No way, bro. LOL

Thanks for the info! Say, any announcement yet when train service between GZ and Zuhai starts?[/QUOTE]

here's a link and points for bus pick up.
[url]http://zhuhai.expat9.com/handbook/guangzhou-to-zhuhai[/url]

the soon to open train is going to make it even easier.

[QUOTE=Corpo]The easiest way to get to Macau from GZ is by bus. It's about 2.5hrs depneding on where is GZ you pick up the bus and at what time of the day due to traffic. The bus picks up from hotels like China Hotel and also the airport. Costs are about 20-30 USD. It's an air conditioned bus with comfortable seating. The only thing you have to get used to is the hocking and spitting around you.[/QUOTE]Corpo,

There are many bus service from Guangzhou city to Zhu Hai cost is about 75 rmb not 30 rmb ,the CTS bus from the China hotel is small and old try the bus station near the main train station there are about 3 bus service go to ZH .

Fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Corpo,

There are many bus service from Guangzhou city to Zhu Hai cost is about 75 rmb not 30 rmb ,the CTS bus from the China hotel is small and old try the bus station near the main train station there are about 3 bus service go to ZH .

Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]

Yes you are correct. I have done this bus trip. 8-10 times but mostly from the airport.

I will be in GZ late August and would like to hit a couple of clubs. Is Kama still good choice?

[QUOTE=Corpo]Yes you are correct. I have done this bus trip. 8-10 times but mostly from the airport.

I will be in GZ late August and would like to hit a couple of clubs. Is Kama still good choice?[/QUOTE]


As for the GZ->ZH bus, key is to get on the business version, the red one, that leaves only from the East Train Station. Without the schedule, it is hard to know when though. It is much more comfortable then the regular one.


I will be in GZ late late Aug too, maybe we can go bar hunting together. Nobody reported on GZ recently since Solo, so no idea what is new, but Kama is usually the sure bet, or last resort. When you fail in other places, return to Kama, same for the WGs.

From my experience, the best looking WGs are in bars that do not make them look obvious, places like Baby Face, Paddy, Bound, but then, it is much harder to hit on them.

Fillmore

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]As for the GZ->ZH bus, key is to get on the business version, the red one, that leaves only from the East Train Station. Without the schedule, it is hard to know when though. It is much more comfortable then the regular one.


I will be in GZ late late Aug too, maybe we can go bar hunting together. Nobody reported on GZ recently since Solo, so no idea what is new, but Kama is usually the sure bet, or last resort. When you fail in other places, return to Kama, same for the WGs.

From my experience, the best looking WGs are in bars that do not make them look obvious, places like Baby Face, Paddy, Bound, but then, it is much harder to hit on them.

Fillmore[/QUOTE]

Sounds good. Ill PM when plans get closer

Hey guys,

Whats the usual rate for sws and freelancers at bars?

Thanks mates!

So am I right in saying my best bet is hitting the bars or clubs for any action?

Thanks again!

Guys,

It's been 6 weeks but I'm finally on my way back to spice up life in Guangzhou once again.

Cheers

Hi,

I have been to GZ only twice, last time 2 years ago. Both time I found working girls right in front of China Marriot hotel. I am coming in September I don't really have time or energy for hunting after the work. Are they still there?

Thanks in advance

Various authors of travel guidebooks keep writing that single male travellers in China are virtually bombarded with phone calls on their in-room hotel telephones at night. - By girls willing to join you in your room.

Isn't that true? Or at least not true as far as Guangzhou is concerned? Any experiences?

Regards

[QUOTE=Flying Solo]Guys,

It's been 6 weeks but I'm finally on my way back to spice up life in Guangzhou once again.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Hey man thats super! Maybe you can give us some tips! I have been trying to gather info for a trip down but I am getting very little! Really desperate to have a good time there since I can't make it to macau or shanghai!

Thanks bro!

Hi guys!

I am newbie here so needed your help.

Are there any good saunas in Guangzhou?

[QUOTE=Danny Yu]Hey man thats super! Maybe you can give us some tips! I have been trying to gather info for a trip down but I am getting very little! Really desperate to have a good time there since I can't make it to macau or shanghai!

Thanks bro![/QUOTE]

Who said anything about Shanghai, did you get in touch with BSDavid and make plan for CP? That should be simple enough right?

F.

[QUOTE=Hershing]Various authors of travel guidebooks keep writing that single male travellers in China are virtually bombarded with phone calls on their in-room hotel telephones at night. - By girls willing to join you in your room.

Isn't that true? Or at least not true as far as Guangzhou is concerned? Any experiences?

Regards[/QUOTE]It was true up until the Shanghai World Expo. During the Beijing Olympics, only the southern provinces were allowed to fuck. Now. Even the Guangzhou Jianshe Lu SWs are gone. China not so good. Wait until October.

I spent CNY two weeks in Guangzhou w/ co-mongers and wound up going back to local GFs met previously. You can try but newbies will be screwed.

Having said that, you can get what you want if you are persistent, crafty, and have $$$. Thailand. Philippines. Go somewhere else for now.

I'm in Guangzhou for a short vacation and I stayed at the South America Grand Hotel & Sauna, also called the Nanmei Osotto. After reading the forum I went to the sauna for a Thai massage, but I was not offered a HJ. I thought I could be doing something wrong, so a couple days later I tried the sauna again. This time I said Thai oil massage, and the organizing lady immediately said no oil. I still went in and received only a massage. I also saw a sign saying the hotel doesn't support prostitution. I'm really not sure if this place has gone clean or I was just doing things wrong. The sauna does have some really nice facilities compared to other saunas.

I tried the Yu Long sauna nearby on a Saturday night at 11PM, and I was the only soul in there. I made it to the massage room where 6/10 face, 6/10 body girl awaited. Got the fire/ice BJ and had sex in a few positions. Soon after I finished she told me my time was up at least 30 mins prematurely. I wasn't happy with the atmosphere, so I just left. Her attitude 4/10 and service 3/10.

I tried the Wa King sauna one afternoon and there was only massage girls in at that time. The mama-san told me to wait 30 mins and she would bring a girl in. After waiting I was greeted by a face 8/10 and 7/10 body girl. She gave me a massage and moved rooms to have sex. Got the fire/ice BJ (which I don't think is an enjoyable thing), and then had sex MISH, CG, DS. Some cuddling afterward, and received a HJ for a second pop. Attitude 8/10 and Service 9/10.

On Sunday night my travel buddy and I hit up Soho. It was the first time we went to a club in China. We had a couple drinks, and saw a group of 5 girls at a table. I can speak ok Cantonese and found out they were celebrating one of the girl's birthday. They offered my friend and I some of their nice liquor, and we played drinking games. There was live singing (which I thought was pretty cool), and the club was packed. Good place to hangout with locals.

[QUOTE=Spidermen]Hi guys!

I am newbie here so needed your help.

Are there any good saunas in Guangzhou?[/QUOTE]

Hey Spiderman, use one of your many hands to use the "search this thread" button, perhaps typing the word "sauna"? You'll find plenty of answers to your question that way.

[QUOTE=Marinel]I'm in Guangzhou for a short vacation and I stayed at the South America Grand Hotel & Sauna, also called the Nanmei Osotto. After reading the forum I went to the sauna for a Thai massage, but I was not offered a HJ. I thought I could be doing something wrong, so a couple days later I tried the sauna again. This time I said Thai oil massage, and the organizing lady immediately said no oil. I still went in and received only a massage. I also saw a sign saying the hotel doesn't support prostitution. I'm really not sure if this place has gone clean or I was just doing things wrong. The sauna does have some really nice facilities compared to other saunas.

I tried the Yu Long sauna nearby on a Saturday night at 11PM, and I was the only soul in there. I made it to the massage room where 6/10 face, 6/10 body girl awaited. Got the fire/ice BJ and had sex in a few positions. Soon after I finished she told me my time was up at least 30 mins prematurely. I wasn't happy with the atmosphere, so I just left. Her attitude 4/10 and service 3/10.

I tried the Wa King sauna one afternoon and there was only massage girls in at that time. The mama-san told me to wait 30 mins and she would bring a girl in. After waiting I was greeted by a face 8/10 and 7/10 body girl. She gave me a massage and moved rooms to have sex. Got the fire/ice BJ (which I don't think is an enjoyable thing), and then had sex MISH, CG, DS. Some cuddling afterward, and received a HJ for a second pop. Attitude 8/10 and Service 9/10.

On Sunday night my travel buddy and I hit up Soho. It was the first time we went to a club in China. We had a couple drinks, and saw a group of 5 girls at a table. I can speak ok Cantonese and found out they were celebrating one of the girl's birthday. They offered my friend and I some of their nice liquor, and we played drinking games. There was live singing (which I thought was pretty cool), and the club was packed. Good place to hangout with locals.[/QUOTE]Heymarinel can give the address of wa king sauna and the details of damage done there.

Hi,

Anyone know if this one is girl frendly:

Dong Fang Hotel Guangzhou

No. 120 Liu Hua Road (Yue Xiu Zone)

Guangzhou (Guangdong), 510016

Any action near by'?

Used to be some WGs at MacDonalds next door.

My report will follow in September if there is anything to report.

[QUOTE=Spidermen]Heymarinel can give the address of wa king sauna and the details of damage done there.[/QUOTE]The address is 368ZhongShan Da Dao (M)TianHe GuangZhou. It's right by an elevated road/expressway. I don't remember exactly the price I think it was in the 500's or 600's RMB. You can search and find out the exact price from other reports if you're worried.

[QUOTE=Hershing]Various authors of travel guidebooks keep writing that single male travellers in China are virtually bombarded with phone calls on their in-room hotel telephones at night. - By girls willing to join you in your room.

Isn't that true? Or at least not true as far as Guangzhou is concerned? Any experiences?

Regards[/QUOTE]Was that question too difficult? - Do you get phone calls at night or not?

So get things started off on Guangzhou maybe can offer a few pointers.

Not many Saunas here offering Full Service. Those that I came to know off are in Gangding and Shui Yin Lu (Yong Yuan), Jia Ying Hotel (Huanshi) and Canton Hotel Sauna.

Rates are about 500 RMB. But have been known to be increased after Canton Fair.

Streetwalkers still available around Huanshi Lu (Between Asia International Hotel and Garden Hotel) area.

[QUOTE=Hershing]Was that question too difficult? - Do you get phone calls at night or not?[/QUOTE]

I assume that you want your good night sleep and don't want to be bothered right? hahaha, that was the idea for most hotel managers these days.

What you were talking about did happen many years ago, in the 80s. This still happen in some far in land places like Yunan province, but nowadays WGs are plain hard to find in big cities. GZ still have plenty but mostly too old and too fat. The new bloods coming down south mostly go to places like CP and ZH, with the better looking ones crossing over to Macau.

F.

[QUOTE=Hershing]Was that question too difficult? - Do you get phone calls at night or not?[/QUOTE]
Good God man!

5 previous posts - 4 asking questions, one thanking and then you come up with this?

Ain't you ever heard of manners?

What - you think we're your wait staff or what?

SEAJ

May 2010

Stayed here on my way to Shenzhen.

Tried the hotel massage, massage was good, but only offered handjob and it was 300rmb, I told her no way! Then she went don't on the price, I told her 50 rmb, she laughed, and accepted, then about 10 minutes, I exploded, and she even licked it up and swallowed it, so I tipped her and gave her 100 rmb for the handjob/cim.

That night I went to the British Apartments Building (not sure on the name) its very close to the royal mediterranean hotel, I had girl # 2, well she ended up giving me her phone number, then I called her later, to have her stay the night, no charge! I think that she liked me, or I was just lucky. BBBJ, CIM, she was energetic, after a while I was tired, but she had no problem riding me until I popped another 3 times., Maybe its in the water there? Ha-ha. Really don't know how to judge it, still I was pleased.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]What you were talking about did happen many years ago, in the 80s.[/QUOTE]Ah, now I know what to think of the author of my guidebook (HK, Macau, Canton), which was published in 2009!

Thanks Fillmore!

Regards

Guys, sorry I've been in town for 10 days already but been busy relocating into new apartment and other usual moving shit. Very disappointed that the clubs have to close at 2am nowdays, doesn't give much time to work the magic.

Anyway, bad news or good news?

Bad news first, I don't think I will be able to go out and monger much anymore (but still prepared to help out, chat and offer tips).

So the Good news, my last trip proved to be very fruitful and now I have shacked up with one very talented lady. For a change beats mongering when you can have it anytime any place. Maybe need to change the name from Flying SOLO to Flying HIGH.

SOLO

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]Who said anything about Shanghai, did you get in touch with BSDavid and make plan for CP? That should be simple enough right?

F.[/QUOTE]Sorry man I really don't understand! What is CP? Please excuse my ignorance!

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Good God man!

5 previous posts - 4 asking questions, one thanking and then you come up with this?

Ain't you ever heard of manners?

What - you think we're your wait staff or what?

SEAJ[/QUOTE]Haha well said! Thought he had something coming specially after his bloody question was answered!

Hey guys,

A brief report. First thanks to those who gave me some tips about Guangzhou. Didn't get up to much mischief but did visit a BBS at 88 Zhuji Road, near Shamian Island (about a 15 min walk). Went there about 8pm. It had the distinct pink lights in the windows. Went in and tried negotiating FS, but the 3-4 girls there weren't spectacular. Eventually managed to arrange a HJ for 100 RMB with the cutest one, who was pretty friendly and quite GFE. She gave what turned out to be a very nice HJ in a room up some steep wooden steps (almost like climbing up a ladder). Took her time and wasn't rushed. Finished up and paid and walked back to hotel. All pretty easy and hassle free. On the way back, I turned down Heping West Road to check out another BBS mentioned in these threads. It's number 64 Heping Road. It also is operating as a BBS and again I saw the pink lights. So another option if needed.

Cheers,

Krum

last week in the Baiyun Hotel, an aging bogus-5-star downtown, EVERY FLOOR had a monitor in the afternoon and evening.
My first night at 2am with a Kama girl tucked under my arm, the elevator security guard refused me entry, until I asked in Manadarin to see the night manager.
The next day my visiting 18 year old CP regular was grabbed IN THE AFTERNOON on the way to my room and forced to REGISTER AS A VISITOR TO THE ROOM! At 5pm!!!!
despite my protests, I was told to either 'speak to the police' or to check out, I chose the latter, heading quickly to CP.
100 Days until the Asian Games..... Guangzhou Sucks

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Good God man!

5 previous posts - 4 asking questions, one thanking and then you come up with this?

Ain't you ever heard of manners?

What - you think we're your wait staff or what?

SEAJ[/QUOTE]
No SEAJ, next time we just need to answer faster and with a "yessir boss" attitude. Ok?

Mmlouie

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Good God man!

5 previous posts - 4 asking questions, one thanking and then you come up with this?

Ain't you ever heard of manners?

What - you think we're your wait staff or what?

SEAJ[/QUOTE]

Hey Seaj,
He thought "SE" meant "Service Employee"

[QUOTE=Meiguoguizi]last week in the Baiyun Hotel, an aging bogus-5-star downtown, EVERY FLOOR had a monitor in the afternoon and evening.
My first night at 2am with a Kama girl tucked under my arm, the elevator security guard refused me entry, until I asked in Manadarin to see the night manager.
The next day my visiting 18 year old CP regular was grabbed IN THE AFTERNOON on the way to my room and forced to REGISTER AS A VISITOR TO THE ROOM! At 5pm!!!!
despite my protests, I was told to either 'speak to the police' or to check out, I chose the latter, heading quickly to CP.
100 Days until the Asian Games..... Guangzhou Sucks[/QUOTE]


Thanks for the report, but you picked one hotel that is well known for gf-unfriendly, man. I had stayed there before and I had to register the room to my girl's name. When I came out of the room in the afternoon after some activity (before 5pm), I was stopped and questioned!

We had multiple posts on which hotel is gf friendly, so maybe more such posts will be very useful.

Sure, if having the option to stay in a CP hotel, why bother with GZ at all, but if you have friends and relationships in GZ and need to hangout for GZ night life, then CP hotel is not practical since the last train departs 10:45pm.

Fillmore.

Has anyone tried this:

[url]http://guangzhou.craigslist.com.cn/search/ers/?query=w4m[/url]

[QUOTE=Vompat]Has anyone tried this:

[url]http://guangzhou.craigslist.com.cn/search/ers/?query=w4m[/url][/QUOTE]

I really don't think there is even a reason to try this. Overpriced with fake pictures. Why bother? The places to go have been listed in this thread over and over and over.

If your company has put you up at a hotel that is not GF, browse the thread and get a cheap room at a girl friendly hotel. Your total cost for the room + girl NOT from craigslist will be cheaper than the free hotel room + the craigslist girl. PLUS you will actually get to choose who you take with you! Not even counting the added benefit of being away from business guests or anything like that! Monger in peace!

GF and non GF hotels have also been discussed in this thread, just hit ctrl f and type the name of your hotel and click next till you find a useful report. For example, if I was staying at the Baiyun Hotel, I would hit ctrl f and type Baiyun into the little box, then I would hit next until I find a report saying its GF or not GF.

Thanks Ritzfactor for you reply. I will forget about the graiglist.

Tried your way but could not do it, I am not so good at computers.

I will be here [url]http://www.grandinternationalhotel.com/[/url].

Does anyone know if is a GF hotel?

Hey Vompat,

No worries, I just tried searching this thread for info on the hotel and could not find anything, although I cannot read chinese so I was just guessing at what the chinese name of the hotel would be!

Good luck, have fun, and make sure to come back here and report how things go, good or bad!

[QUOTE=Vompat]Thanks Ritzfactor for you reply. I will forget about the graiglist.

Tried your way but could not do it, I am not so good at computers.

I will be here [url]http://www.grandinternationalhotel.com/[/url].

Does anyone know if is a GF hotel?[/QUOTE]They have in house massage/SPA/Sauna, seems like all in one place, as they say it. There must be some way to get FS here. There is a chance this hotel is "not GF", as they might want you to dine in.

Thanks a lot, my report will follow.

Dear Friends,

M in China and visitng various place.

Can I have any tip for English speaking gals for this place?

[QUOTE=Store]Dear Friends,

M in China and visitng various place.

Can I have any tip for English speaking gals for this place?[/QUOTE]There are none here, if you want an english speaking gal, bring your own, when you are finished with her, lemme know, I am still looking for English speakers :P

[QUOTE=Store]Dear Friends,

M in China and visitng various place.

Can I have any tip for English speaking gals for this place?[/QUOTE]If you are looking for English speaking Chinese gals, search 5 star hotel lobbies/bars and prepare to pay over the top. There are some Russian, Latina, and Filipino gals working at some high end bars around Tianhe.

[QUOTE=Mind Maggot]If you are looking for English speaking Chinese gals, search 5 star hotel lobbies/bars and prepare to pay over the top. There are some Russian, Latina, and Filipino gals working at some high end bars around Tianhe.[/QUOTE]

Which high end bars around Tianhe? I don't care about English or not but I need to know where to find the pricier girls. Usually GZ have cheap girls around 300 and usually so old and so ugly and so fat that I ran as far away from them as possible.

The only place in Tianhe that I have seen WG is the Q bar but it only had those fat and ugly, so if I am willing to pay BJ price, where can I find BJ quality WG in GZ?

F.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]Which high end bars around Tianhe? I don't care about English or not but I need to know where to find the pricier girls. Usually GZ have cheap girls around 300 and usually so old and so ugly and so fat that I ran as far away from them as possible.

The only place in Tianhe that I have seen WG is the Q bar but it only had those fat and ugly, so if I am willing to pay BJ price, where can I find BJ quality WG in GZ?

F.[/QUOTE]Its not easy finding pricier girls in GZ, they dont stay at one place, move from one bar to another. And they are very few. Most likely you'll get them around Holiday Inn, quite a few expensive bars there. Hit as many bars as possible, you might get lucky. You cant compare GZ with BJ. Supply is very low in GZ with high demand, price is also quite high.

Maggot cant understand why you found only 300 RMB girls. Situation is not that bad in GZ.

Stopped by this place today for a massage. Chinese massage was 218RMB for 90 min. The massage was actually pretty good and the HJ was included. The girl was cute but the HJ was a little rough. She stroked so hard it hurt the boys, but was better when she slowed down. Overall, not a terrible experience, but will have to give it another try sometime to see if it can be better.

Thanks Minuteman for the tip.

[QUOTE=Minuteman]I was staying at the China Hotel (Marriott) and needed to bust a nut so I went looking for some action. I found it at a massage parlor called the Leisure Center but it was very disappointing.

DIRECTIONS: Take a left out of the Marriott, walk past the Dong Fang hotel, and take a left at the first road you come to. It is a large six lane road named Renmin Lu that borders a large park called LuiHui Park so you can’t miss it.

Walk down approximately 300 yards, past a silver, futuristic-looking building that house the Guangdong Broadcast Center, continue past a restaurant with a couple dozen tanks holding every type of water create imaginable, until you hit Panfu Daiuju. Take a left at Panfu Daigu and it will be the second building on the left side of the street. The exterior walls are black and a young girl dressed in an evening gown is manning a podium outside the entrance. You can’t miss it.

By the way, across the street in the Sapphire Building is a big sign for another massage parlor on the second floor. I suspect it too offers full service but I didn’t go inside.

Once you walk in, you are escorted to a counter where you are given a elastic bracelet which is your locker key. This counter is also where you pay after you are finished.

You are then lead into a locker room, a male attendant puts your clothes away, gives you a towel, and directs you to the shower. You shower up and are given a pair of flimsy short pants and t-shirt. They charge you 10 rmb, which I thought was a cheesy way to nickel and dime you.

You are then escorted to another area filled with lazy boy chairs with TVs where a mama-san will greet you and take your order.

The mama-san was very nice but spoke very, very, very, very little English. This seemed to be a business geared for the Chinese locals. I was given a menu with set prices. The “Thai Message” for 368 RMB that is for full-service.

The mama-san walks you upstairs to an area of small rooms. Some rooms have massage tables; some have beds. “Thai massage” buyers are taken to a room with a bed. These rooms, by the way, do not have toilets so make sure you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]/shit before you come upstairs. ...

Sorry about that mess of a post. Here's what I had added

Stopped by this place today for a massage. Chinese massage was 218RMB for 90 min. The massage was actually pretty good and the HJ was included. The girl was cute but the HJ was a little rough. She stroked so hard it hurt the boys, but was better when she slowed down. Overall, not a terrible experience, but will have to give it another try sometime to see if it can be better.

Thanks Minuteman for the tip. The directions from his post are below:

"DIRECTIONS: Take a left out of the Marriott, walk past the Dong Fang hotel, and take a left at the first road you come to. It is a large six lane road named Renmin Lu that borders a large park called LuiHui Park so you can’t miss it.

Walk down approximately 300 yards, past a silver, futuristic-looking building that house the Guangdong Broadcast Center, continue past a restaurant with a couple dozen tanks holding every type of water create imaginable, until you hit Panfu Daiuju. Take a left at Panfu Daigu and it will be the second building on the left side of the street. The exterior walls are black and a young girl dressed in an evening gown is manning a podium outside the entrance. You can’t miss it."

Thanks Maggot. Just arrived GZ and found Tang club gone for good and went to Kama around midnight and the place was full of hungry guys but no girls. Paddy field also just guys. My night was not totally lost, as I still have ktv girls I met in previous trips and one was getting off work early...


[QUOTE=Mind Maggot]Its not easy finding pricier girls in GZ, they dont stay at one place, move from one bar to another. And they are very few. Most likely you'll get them around Holiday Inn, quite a few expensive bars there. Hit as many bars as possible, you might get lucky. You cant compare GZ with BJ. Supply is very low in GZ with high demand, price is also quite high.

Maggot cant understand why you found only 300 RMB girls. Situation is not that bad in GZ.[/QUOTE]

Holiday Inn?, I have not checked recently but last year I went only saw old-fat-ugly. I know there are some bars in Holiday Inn Garden hotel area but none are high end, except maybe inside Garden hotel.

How about TianHe area? I have only been to Qbar, and again, only found ofu there as well.

While passing through 6th ave near Garden hotel, found no SW, but after turnning around the corner into DongFengLu, saw some SW, but again, old-fat-ugly so didnt even bother to stop the taxi.

So Maggot, please PM me names of high end bars that I can find better quality. You are absolutely right that supply very low but demand very high in GZ, as you cannot always just go to CP etc.

F.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]Thanks Maggot. Just arrived GZ and found Tang club gone for good and went to Kama around midnight and the place was full of hungry guys but no girls. Paddy field also just guys. My night was not totally lost, as I still have ktv girls I met in previous trips and one was getting off work early...

Holiday Inn?, I have not checked recently but last year I went only saw old-fat-ugly. I know there are some bars in Holiday Inn Garden hotel area but none are high end, except maybe inside Garden hotel.

How about TianHe area? I have only been to Qbar, and again, only found ofu there as well.

While passing through 6th ave near Garden hotel, found no SW, but after turnning around the corner into DongFengLu, saw some SW, but again, old-fat-ugly so didnt even bother to stop the taxi.

So Maggot, please PM me names of high end bars that I can find better quality. You are absolutely right that supply very low but demand very high in GZ, as you cannot always just go to CP etc.

F.[/QUOTE]Maggot hasnt been to anywhere in the last couple of months due to some technical issues. Never realised it turned that bad. It will be another 10 days or so when Maggot can visit some places. If you are still around then, Maggot will be very happy to take you around. Until then, sorry, can't recall any name. Maggot just knows how to get to places. To be precise, never settles down in one place, always on the move. But will try to get some info this weekend.

How about the bars in that small street with a dead end? Its somewhere near Holiday Inn, it goes kind of up the hill, a bit far from the main road, sorry can't recall the street name.

I've been reading the forum and noticed that all the massage places which are recommended have recently been closed or are no longer recommended.

I'm working near the Train station and will have a few hours to spare at the end of the day and am looking for some reliable full service massage places.

Any suggestions for places whch have been recently reviewed would be very much appreciated.

It has been awhile since I mongered in Guangzhou, but I'm here now, just arrived last week and can't seem to stay away from some action, heehee.

I appreciate the members being generous enough to share their experiences.
I read about guys having trouble sneaking girls into their hotels, and wanted to post my experience at the White Swan with my girl.

She calls me outside to notify me that she's about to enter the lobby of the White Swan. I panic because I want to visually approve of her dress before she shows up.

I tell my girlie to dress conservatively:
She shows up in a no-sleeves micro-mini with leopard spots. Go figure.

I tell her not to wear high heels.
She shows up in five inch fuck-me pumps. Go figure.

Although financially it was a freebie, I bought her those running sneakers shoes - well so much for the freebie.

Outside the lobby, just around the corner away from the doormen, I intercept her and make her tie up her hair in an austere bun - I even brought her my own hair-tie squeezie. I top off her head with one of those ridiculous looking oversized tourist group hats. She makes squealing noises that it messes up her hair. I wear one myself.

I stuff her cutesie purse and heels, into - again one of those ridiculous
tourist agency freebie bags - the folding tote style - and not the knapsack style (the knapsacks take up too much space in my luggage)
I carry a 2nd tote for myself: CITS, initially I thought it was China Travel Service, but apparently it is something else.

We look silly. But she no longer resembles a Fuck machine.

She was all set to burst through the main lobby's reception area, I scoot her
around to the side entrance - where all the bank ATM machines are located.
We scoot past the doormen and upstairs we go.

Inside our room, I make her put on her heels again and take off her squeegie, because I like it when she looks like a fuck machine.

I stayed here four nights and can tell you that at no time did this hotel station "11 PM night" guards on each of the floors. Kind of unusual for a hotel of this calibre.

Moondog

[QUOTE=Moondog123]It has been awhile since I mongered in Guangzhou, but I'm here now, just arrived last week and can't seem to stay away from some action, heehee.

I appreciate the members being generous enough to share their experiences.
I read about guys having trouble sneaking girls into their hotels, and wanted to post my experience at the White Swan with my girl. ...

Moondog[/QUOTE]


Excellent report man, but you are lucky to be staying at one of the few still-girl-friendly hotel in GZ. Until the Asia Game is over, all bets are off in terms of taking girls back to hotel rooms.

I was meeting with one really hot girl from Paddy field last night and she told me she has been to all the 5star hotel but recenly only the White Swan, the Shangrila, Westin, Ritz and the Grand Hyatt can still manage to bring girls into rooms.

Sneakers, shopping bag are excellent ideas.

F.

Hey, Guys. Very new to this. 1st day on. So some of the term are confusing me. BBS. BBBJ. Is there a place I can see the terms to understand better? I hope to learn. I have been in Guangzhou for about a year. Seems with the Asian Games just around the corner things are very strict. Have a good friend (Chinese) that tells me it's so dry here. He has to go out of town to get some. I had been to a place many times. Metro stop Xiaogang Exit D. Go left till you see a Family Market Convenient store. Turn left. Walk for about 500 yards. On the right next to a Wet market. 108 HJ. 288 FS. But I went last time and after the so called massage I got nothing. I was pissed. Seems the crack down is in full effect. The place is simple. Small Sauna. Shower and lockers. Not the best. Relax room with about 40 comfy seats. Free drinks and free food. The I have never had. This really is a rinky dink place. No other services that I know of. The Massage is so so. You will get a girl that will do a bit extra with her hands. But mostly just a hand job. The FS is just that. No massage. I was not sure what was what. Only did it one time. So it went right to the FS. Not sure if I could have gotten a BBBJ or something. The girl I had was nice. Cute face and a Kick ass Body. F=7 B=9 She was #11. Most of the girls are just OK. But as I mentioned all has stopped. So I ask you guys. what is to be found in Guangzhou now? Can you explain a bit more on the BBS places.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Dbhappiness]Hey, Guys. Very new to this. 1st day on. So some of the term are confusing me. BBS. BBBJ. Is there a place I can see the terms to understand better? I hope to learn. I have been in Guangzhou for about a year. Seems with the Asian Games just around the corner things are very strict. Have a good friend (Chinese) that tells me it's so dry here. He has to go out of town to get some. I had been to a place many times. Metro stop Xiaogang Exit D. Go left till you see a Family Market Convenient store. Turn left. Walk for about 500 yards. On the right next to a Wet market. 108 HJ. 288 FS. But I went last time and after the so called massage I got nothing. I was pissed. Seems the crack down is in full effect. The place is simple. Small Sauna. Shower and lockers. Not the best. Relax room with about 40 comfy seats. Free drinks and free food. The I have never had. This really is a rinky dink place. No other services that I know of. The Massage is so so. You will get a girl that will do a bit extra with her hands. But mostly just a hand job. The FS is just that. No massage. I was not sure what was what. Only did it one time. So it went right to the FS. Not sure if I could have gotten a BBBJ or something. The girl I had was nice. Cute face and a Kick ass Body. F=7 B=9 She was #11. Most of the girls are just OK. But as I mentioned all has stopped. So I ask you guys. what is to be found in Guangzhou now? Can you explain a bit more on the BBS places.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

GZ never had much of a BBS(Barbershop) scene, as that is more a thinkg of the smaller towns like CP.

What to find in GZ now? not much. Went to Duo last night with a date and found no WG at all. Some beautiful white girls but I doubt they are WGs. Chinese WG not allowed in most such bars now, as KAMA also deserted when I checked last week.

Street Walkers can still be found near end of 6th Ave, slightly more away from Garden Hotel, but only those old-fat-ugly. Saw a hot WG in Paddy field and that was because I had done her before so I know, as otherwise she was with a group of other girls that you really cannot tell they are WGs.

So overall, I think I like what I am seeing, GZ being cleaned up, no more on-your-face prostitution and much more subtle and only for those who know the way, while it is still easy mongering in surrounding small towns like CP, Zhong Shan.

F.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]GZ never had much of a BBS(Barbershop) scene, as that is more a thinkg of the smaller towns like CP.

What to find in GZ now? not much. Went to Duo last night with a date and found no WG at all. Some beautiful white girls but I doubt they are WGs. Chinese WG not allowed in most such bars now, as KAMA also deserted when I checked last week.

Street Walkers can still be found near end of 6th Ave, slightly more away from Garden Hotel, but only those old-fat-ugly. Saw a hot WG in Paddy field and that was because I had done her before so I know, as otherwise she was with a group of other girls that you really cannot tell they are WGs.

So overall, I think I like what I am seeing, GZ being cleaned up, no more on-your-face prostitution and much more subtle and only for those who know the way, while it is still easy mongering in surrounding small towns like CP, Zhong Shan.

F.[/QUOTE]To Filmore

Never said Never Guangzhou have some of the biggest BBS in Guangdong about 6 yr ago, there are about 5 major BBS area most famous are the Ramada area more than 20 bbs at the peak, there are still a few around but is outside of town.

Fast eddie 48

Its been a long time since Maggot hit any place. And when he finally did, it was all deserted. Went to as many as six different saunas in Foshan city, all are being renovated. Maggot has certainly found a new definition of coincidence. Living in China and not getting a girl on demand -- life sucks.

[QUOTE=Mind Maggot]Its been a long time since Maggot hit any place. And when he finally did, it was all deserted. Went to as many as six different saunas in Foshan city, all are being renovated. Maggot has certainly found a new definition of coincidence. Living in China and not getting a girl on demand -- life sucks.[/QUOTE]

I am having so much fun with ktv in ZH that I didnt bother with the WG in GZ at all. I do see them, they are in various bars, but just not the quality that I have gotten used to with ktv girls.

I am sure ktvs in Foshan are still fully functional?

F.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]I am having so much fun with ktv in ZH that I didnt bother with the WG in GZ at all. I do see them, they are in various bars, but just not the quality that I have gotten used to with ktv girls.

I am sure ktvs in Foshan are still fully functional?

F.[/QUOTE]The p4p situation in GZ in general is quite horrible, hardly any choice. As you said awhile back, its full of fuglies.

KTVs in Foshan are NEVER functional, rarely any girl would go home/hotel. There are very few girls and just to accompany clients, some KTVs dont even have any, you bring your own! All the girls in KTV scene constantly look for a long term cash cow in the form of 'lover'.

[quote=fast eddie 48]to filmore

never said never guangzhou have some of the biggest bbs in guangdong about 6 yr ago, there are about 5 major bbs area most famous are the ramada area more than 20 bbs at the peak, there are still a few around but is outside of town.

fast eddie 48[/quote]


fe48,

you are exagerating a little. the ramada area never had "more than 20 bbs". there were 4-5 just around the corner from the hotel and another 4-5 rep001tered around the immediate vicinity.

there were other areas around town where you could find bbs. i remember another 3-4 locations with 6-8 bbs in each, as well as, pockets of 1-2 bbs rep001tered all over town.

there are still a few fs bbs if you look hard enough. most are on the other side of the river but they are not always open.

just my pov.

oah

Hey guys,

I'm going to a friends wedding in Guangzhou, I was wondering do massage parlors casually offer Happy endings? and if so can you guys recommend a couple, I'll be staying at the Garden Hotel.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Mind Maggot]
KTVs in Foshan are NEVER functional, rarely any girl would go home/hotel. There are very few girls and just to accompany clients, some KTVs dont even have any, you bring your own! All the girls in KTV scene constantly look for a long term cash cow in the form of 'lover'.[/QUOTE]

I see, same as ktv in GZ then. Not only that they don't go home with you, they don't even give out their real phone numbers. Usually they will give you a number of their less attractive friends when you ask for their number. I was lucky enough one time to get a real number and that was like hitting the jackpot.

F.

[QUOTE=Ykurashi]Hey guys,

I'm going to a friends wedding in Guangzhou, I was wondering do massage parlors casually offer Happy endings? and if so can you guys recommend a couple, I'll be staying at the Garden Hotel.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Yes they do. I have been searching GZ for those places. Since the "CRACK DOWN" I have been cautious not to go to a sauna and the get ripped off with a 250rmb massage and nothing to show for it. 24 hour sauna/spas still give HJ. Here are the ones I know of. Metro stop Gangding. Not sure what exit to get out on. But you can't miss it. There is a huge singe saying Massage SPA. It's in a hotel and part of a movie theater. Can be a bit costly. 280 for Thai oil massage. But the girl was nice. Took her time. She even let me feel her bare breasts. Usual thing... free food drinks. Extras like foot massage will run 45rmb. Next is in Metro Stop San Yuan Li. There are many Saunas in this part of town. I went to one just the other day. I went around 3pm to just check it out and see if they did give a HJ. They do. Not as nice as the Gangding. And the girl was pretty but had on a sports shirt and KAPPA track pants. Not Sexy at all. Same set up as well. This Place I went to is called BIN BIN SPA. Best way to get to it would be to go to San Yuan Li. Exit C2. Take Bus 803 or 803A. Go 4 stops. Get off and it should be across the street. I usually am taking the bus going towards the metro. And that stop is next to the sauna. So the bus stop should be just the same going the other way. If you keep your eyes open you will see 2 other Sauna on the way. The total for the Thai Massage was only 140rmb! I think it was since I was there in the afternoon. I had free drinks and watermelon. Ended up staying for 3 hours and got some sleep. I hope this helps.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]I see, same as ktv in GZ then. Not only that they don't go home with you, they don't even give out their real phone numbers. Usually they will give you a number of their less attractive friends when you ask for their number. I was lucky enough one time to get a real number and that was like hitting the jackpot.

F.[/QUOTE]These girls always have multiple phone numbers and they switch hands within a group. It is indeed like hitting a jackpot if you get the real number on first meeting. They will never give out real phone numbers and tell real names.

[QUOTE=Dbhappiness]Yes they do. I have been searching GZ for those places. Since the "CRACK DOWN" I have been cautious not to go to a sauna and the get ripped off with a 250rmb massage and nothing to show for it. 24 hour sauna/spas still give HJ. Here are the ones I know of. Metro stop Gangding. Not sure what exit to get out on. But you can't miss it. There is a huge singe saying Massage SPA. It's in a hotel and part of a movie theater. Can be a bit costly. 280 for Thai oil massage. But the girl was nice. Took her time. She even let me feel her bare breasts. Usual thing... free food drinks. Extras like foot massage will run 45rmb. Next is in Metro Stop San Yuan Li. There are many Saunas in this part of town. I went to one just the other day. I went around 3pm to just check it out and see if they did give a HJ. They do. Not as nice as the Gangding. And the girl was pretty but had on a sports shirt and KAPPA track pants. Not Sexy at all. Same set up as well. This Place I went to is called BIN BIN SPA. Best way to get to it would be to go to San Yuan Li. Exit C2. Take Bus 803 or 803A. Go 4 stops. Get off and it should be across the street. I usually am taking the bus going towards the metro. And that stop is next to the sauna. So the bus stop should be just the same going the other way. If you keep your eyes open you will see 2 other Sauna on the way. The total for the Thai Massage was only 140rmb! I think it was since I was there in the afternoon. I had free drinks and watermelon. Ended up staying for 3 hours and got some sleep. I hope this helps.[/QUOTE]That helps so much actualy thank you, one question though, how do you ask if they give HJ's or not, and can they find it offensive if I ask in a direct manner? or is there some of term or manner?

Coming Guangzhou or China for the first time on Saturday morning. I will stay there for 6 days. Help me to find some easy find palces for action.

Your help appreciated.

[QUOTE=Ykurashi]That helps so much actualy thank you, one question though, how do you ask if they give HJ's or not, and can they find it offensive if I ask in a direct manner? Or is there some of term or manner?[/QUOTE]well. That is an interesting question. I myself am not to open with the asking. I do feel a bit forward in asking. The doubt can be there wether or not it will happen (HJ). The places I told you about. (the one in Gangding would be your best bet. It is much closer to the Garden Hotel. The girls were nice and they took their time. Get the Thai massage. Also you are paying a bit more for the massage and that in itself should let you know you are getting a HJ. They used OIL and that is a nice sign for things to "COME". They offer an oil massage but that seems redundant and costs more.) I have never asked. Not at the front desk anyway. When in the room it may be hard to relax and enjoy the massage when you are thinking. "will I get a HJ"? Just go with it. Think of it as a given. I can almost guarantee it will happen. Asking for more in the Sauna is not recommended at this point. Not sure if it is even an option but could offend the girl. Just go in relax get the Thai massage and enjoy. Other option. Not the best but for full service you can use the Craig's list Guangzhou Erotic page. This is 98% BS. The girls in the Photos are not the ones to show at your door. If you look at the ads they are written in English. So this is for Westerners. For this you can maybe bargain down to 800rmb/h Full service. They will come to you. The girl will be just that. A girl. It's a crap shoot as to who and what will show at your door. But this is an option still in Guangzhou. I also know a guy, his name is TING. Street dude. "Massagy" 400rmb/h. He will get you a girl 24/7. And again the quality of this female is up in the air. The contact # if I may post is [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue].

Hope this helps.

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[QUOTE=James707]Coming Guangzhou or China for the first time on Saturday morning. I will stay there for 6 days. Help me to find some easy find palces for action.

Your help appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Easy place for action? how about SW, they are real easy. Just take a taxi and tell the driver to go to JianShe 6th ave. Then walk over to the the corner between Dong Feng Lu and Jianshe 3rd Rd, and you will find a few SW there after 11pm. These SW used to ramp around the streets surounding Garden hotel but have since been driven away to that much less visible corner.

If you are thinking about sauna, they are all over the place and existed in most inexpensive hotels. Just hide cash in a cigarette packet so you can hand over cash inside the room and you should be able to get whatever you want in most places.

Please keep in mind that you get what you pay for, both in terms of time and money. To find quality, you will need to spend either time, or money, and sometimes both.

F.

i tried two of the spa recommendations from dboulehappiness and got lost trying to find my way, but in true monger fashion i soldiered on.

1) damn. the metro line#2 seems to have construction and i couldn't figure out a way to get to this spa. so i tried to go to the bin bin spa instead.

[quote=dbhappiness] metro stop line#2) xiaogang exit d. it is 4 stops east of the hub for line1&line2) gongyuanquian.. go left till you see a family market convenient store. turn left. walk for about 500 yards. on the right next to a wet market.[/quote]2) since option 1 was so close to the bin bin spa, i thought i'd try bin bin next.

oh no. i got on the 803 bus and took four bus stops, went past that golden dragon complex and leather goods plaza, and ended up at the guangzhou bus/rail station. i saw another subway metro station and gulped that i must have either gone too far. or even worse the wrong direction with the bus.

[quote=dbhappiness] metro stop sanyuanli on the last stop top end of line2) exit c2) take bus 803 or 803a and go 4 stops and get off and it will be across street = bin bin spa.[/quote]3) i was so close to the landsman hotel spa that i went to landsman hotel next, and unfortunately the spa is now a foot massage place. this hotel now aspires to be a four star (in their eyes) hotel – in fact when i asked the concierge about the spa he even gave me told me to go somewhere else, a large therapeutic massage place.

4) walked about 200 metres in the direction of the dongfang hotel, where there is a massage spa in the front near the sidewalk, and detached from the hotel, the name is the zhong nan hai (spelling) massage spa. i walked down the staircase that reminded me of the side lighting in the basement of professor xavier's education mansion in those x-men movies.

the price was 398 rmb for japanese, 498 rmb for thai, 598 for japanese with 2 girls, and 698 rmb for thai with 2 girls.

i should of tried the above option, but i decided to try location number 5 below. big mistake.

5) since i was familiar a little bit with the area near the white swan hotel, i ended up at the victory hotel spa. the doorman said the price was 198, and then immediately flipped the door sign backwards, not a good sign.

walked down the staircase and there were five locker room boys but no customers in sight. i don't think the showers even had curtains, not that we are too bashful, but for a spa that was allegedly renovated around 2008. was escorted to the lounge tv area where there were about 20 comfy armchairs, unfortunately there were no customers in sight and this was 9:30 pm! the 198 price had risen to 298, not a good sign. the price was 600 for fs sex massage and an extra 15 for russian. i ended up going for the 298 hj. in strolled a pork chop. i refused. out strolled the pork chop. in strolled a slightly slimmer pork chop. i refused again. the third girl wasn't exactly a knockout but a major upgrade over the first two. on to the session. oh no, her cell phone kept ringing with 'short mail'. i don't think we even made it to the two minute mark. after the third 'short mail', i decided to use this as an opportunity to switch girls. i wandered back to the cashier / bar booth and complained about the text messages on her cell phone. i ended up getting girl#4. cute and slim, and medium tall. finally.

unfortunately all the girls seem to have a no oil in the room policy. ended up with a dry hj.

would strongly not recommend this place. it is never a good sign when there are no customers in sight at 9:30 pm, even on a weekday.

- on a side note, i did eventually discover the third spa that dboublehappiness mentioned and i'll report about it soon.

[quote=moondog123]i tried two of the spa recommendations from dboulehappiness and got lost trying to find my way, but in true monger fashion i soldiered on.

1) damn. the metro line#2 seems to have construction and i couldn't figure out a way to get to this spa. so i tried to go to the bin bin spa instead.

2) since option 1 was so close to the bin bin spa, i thought i'd try bin bin next.

oh no. i got on the 803 bus and took four bus stops, went past that golden dragon complex and leather goods plaza, and ended up at the guangzhou bus/rail station. i saw another subway metro station and gulped that i must have either gone too far. or even worse the wrong direction with the bus.

3) i was so close to the landsman hotel spa that i went to landsman hotel next, and unfortunately the spa is now a foot massage place. this hotel now aspires to be a four star (in their eyes) hotel – in fact when i asked the concierge about the spa he even gave me told me to go somewhere else, a large therapeutic massage place.

4) walked about 200 metres in the direction of the dongfang hotel, where there is a massage spa in the front near the sidewalk, and detached from the hotel, the name is the zhong nan hai (spelling) massage spa. i walked down the staircase that reminded me of the side lighting in the basement of professor xavier's education mansion in those x-men movies.

the price was 398 rmb for japanese, 498 rmb for thai, 598 for japanese with 2 girls, and 698 rmb for thai with 2 girls.

i should of tried the above option, but i decided to try location number 5 below. big mistake.

5) since i was familiar a little bit with the area near the white swan hotel, i ended up at the victory hotel spa. the doorman said the price was 198, and then immediately flipped the door sign backwards, not a good sign.

walked down the staircase and there were five locker room boys but no customers in sight. i don't think the showers even had curtains, not that we are too bashful, but for a spa that was allegedly renovated around 2008. was escorted to the lounge tv area where there were about 20 comfy armchairs, unfortunately there were no customers in sight and this was 9:30 pm! the 198 price had risen to 298, not a good sign. the price was 600 for fs sex massage and an extra 15 for russian. i ended up going for the 298 hj. in strolled a pork chop. i refused. out strolled the pork chop. in strolled a slightly slimmer pork chop. i refused again. the third girl wasn't exactly a knockout but a major upgrade over the first two. on to the session. oh no, her cell phone kept ringing with 'short mail'. i don't think we even made it to the two minute mark. after the third 'short mail', i decided to use this as an opportunity to switch girls. i wandered back to the cashier / bar booth and complained about the text messages on her cell phone. i ended up getting girl#4. cute and slim, and medium tall. finally.

unfortunately all the girls seem to have a no oil in the room policy. ended up with a dry hj.

would strongly not recommend this place. it is never a good sign when there are no customers in sight at 9:30 pm, even on a weekday.

- on a side note, i did eventually discover the third spa that dboublehappiness mentioned and i'll report about it soon.[/quote]i would not suggest the spa. (metro stop line#2) xiaogang exit d. it is 4 stops east of the hub for line1&line2) gongyuanquian. go left till you see a family market convenient store. turn left. walk for about 500 yards. on the right next to a wet market.). it has been cracked down on. 108 hj 288 fs does nor exist now. maybe when the asian games are over it will go back to the norm.

what about the spa in gangding? that is easy to find.

Thanks.

I appreciate.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]Easy place for action? how about SW, they are real easy. Just take a taxi and tell the driver to go to JianShe 6th ave. Then walk over to the the corner between Dong Feng Lu and Jianshe 3rd Rd, and you will find a few SW there after 11pm. These SW used to ramp around the streets surounding Garden hotel but have since been driven away to that much less visible corner.

If you are thinking about sauna, they are all over the place and existed in most inexpensive hotels. Just hide cash in a cigarette packet so you can hand over cash inside the room and you should be able to get whatever you want in most places.

Please keep in mind that you get what you pay for, both in terms of time and money. To find quality, you will need to spend either time, or money, and sometimes both.

F.[/QUOTE]

[quote=moondog123]i tried two of the spa recommendations from dboulehappiness and got lost trying to find my way, but in true monger fashion i soldiered on.

1) damn. the metro line#2 seems to have construction and i couldn't figure out a way to get to this spa. so i tried to go to the bin bin spa instead.

2) since option 1 was so close to the bin bin spa, i thought i'd try bin bin next.

oh no. i got on the 803 bus and took four bus stops, went past that golden dragon complex and leather goods plaza, and ended up at the guangzhou bus/rail station. i saw another subway metro station and gulped that i must have either gone too far. or even worse the wrong direction with the bus.

3) i was so close to the landsman hotel spa that i went to landsman hotel next, and unfortunately the spa is now a foot massage place. this hotel now aspires to be a four star (in their eyes) hotel – in fact when i asked the concierge about the spa he even gave me told me to go somewhere else, a large therapeutic massage place.

4) walked about 200 metres in the direction of the dongfang hotel, where there is a massage spa in the front near the sidewalk, and detached from the hotel, the name is the zhong nan hai (spelling) massage spa. i walked down the staircase that reminded me of the side lighting in the basement of professor xavier's education mansion in those x-men movies.

the price was 398 rmb for japanese, 498 rmb for thai, 598 for japanese with 2 girls, and 698 rmb for thai with 2 girls.

i should of tried the above option, but i decided to try location number 5 below. big mistake.

5) since i was familiar a little bit with the area near the white swan hotel, i ended up at the victory hotel spa. the doorman said the price was 198, and then immediately flipped the door sign backwards, not a good sign.

walked down the staircase and there were five locker room boys but no customers in sight. i don't think the showers even had curtains, not that we are too bashful, but for a spa that was allegedly renovated around 2008. was escorted to the lounge tv area where there were about 20 comfy armchairs, unfortunately there were no customers in sight and this was 9:30 pm! the 198 price had risen to 298, not a good sign. the price was 600 for fs sex massage and an extra 15 for russian. i ended up going for the 298 hj. in strolled a pork chop. i refused. out strolled the pork chop. in strolled a slightly slimmer pork chop. i refused again. the third girl wasn't exactly a knockout but a major upgrade over the first two. on to the session. oh no, her cell phone kept ringing with 'short mail'. i don't think we even made it to the two minute mark. after the third 'short mail', i decided to use this as an opportunity to switch girls. i wandered back to the cashier / bar booth and complained about the text messages on her cell phone. i ended up getting girl#4. cute and slim, and medium tall. finally.

unfortunately all the girls seem to have a no oil in the room policy. ended up with a dry hj.

would strongly not recommend this place. it is never a good sign when there are no customers in sight at 9:30 pm, even on a weekday.

- on a side note, i did eventually discover the third spa that dboublehappiness mentioned and i'll report about it soon.[/quote]moondog123,

so what places did you go to? i suggest not going to the place by the wet market. they have shut down all the hj and fs stuff. maybe when the asian games ends it will get going again. for now you can go there and hang out and get a bad massage for 108rmb with nothing extra. but if you do go let me know if things have changed.

Hi,

Just tried their thaimassage at 6th floor, massage was very good, 234 rmb, but the HJ after was way overpriced, I am even shame to tell how much I paid.

If you guys dont have a better suggestion, I will have to go for a fucking graiglist tomorrow night, will not have too much time or energy after a long working day.

Hey guys,

Here's a spa with full service. Take the Metro line to Gangding stop. Get out of gate A. (double check this to be the exit to Longku shi or Longku Dong lu,) I am not hundred percent sure if its the A exit, but for sure if it says Longku Shi or Dong Lu EXIT, its the one you are looking for. (this is also the same as the TRUST MART exit)

When you come out at the top, in the front of the building. Look up, you will see the big SPA Massage sign. You will have to take the elevator to 8 floor for the SPA massage.

They have a few different options for massage. The mamasan usually comes and ask you want you want after you take the shower, change clothes and go to the massage chair. ( the usual spa routine) Just tell them you want the special massage at the 7th floor.

Anyways, its been almost two months since I have been there.

If anyone decides to give it a try. Please report if everything is still on. As I hear they have been shutting down shop at many places around town because of the Asian games.


WEST

[quote=dbhappiness]metro stop gangding. not sure what exit to get out on. but you can't miss it. there is a huge singe saying massage spa. it's in a hotel and part of a movie theater. can be a bit costly. 280 for thai oil massage. but the girl was nice. took her time. she even let me feel her bare breasts. usual thing... free food drinks. extras like foot massage will run 45rmb. [/quote]i was swiveling my head and worried about finding this location when something funny happened. i saw the giant advertisement on the escalator wall of the metro's exit and figured that this must be it. it is called shui bo which according to them is supposed to mean 'water essence'.

at the exterior sidewalk is your familiar promotor girl toiling away behind a red booth, she hands me a pampthlet of prices: 188 rmb for chinese massage, 268 rmb for thai massage, and 298 rmb for renal oil massage. why did i choose the renal option? well the pampthlet had a picture of the thai massage that had the girl on her back and lifting up the man by his back to stretch him out – instead of my initial thai mental impression of a breasts massage.

off to the 8th floor i go and am warmly greeted by two more greeter girls. it is about 7:30 pm, relatively early but at least there are a handful of customers, a good sign. the showers are arranged in a swivel pattern with a variety of six popular shampoos.

they charge 15 rmb for the pajamas.

budding capitalists!

if you refuse, then you'll have to prance around in their thin bright pink towels – i kid you not about the colour.

adjacent to the showers, is a shallow pool area, and even a pool table!

while waiting in the armchair room, i notice that they have an actual food dining area which has the spouses / girlfriends of some of the customers. this place is relatively couples friendly.

mamasan tries to promote the two masseuses option which is about an extra 140 rmb.

i figure that if they're crappy at the single masseuse option, then likely they'll be crappy at the double masseuse option. i went with the single renal oil option.

at least mamasan sent a cutie, about 5'6", 110 lbs, big eyes, but not big breasts. nothing unusual about that combo – i'm not at rio spa or 18 spa. my masseuse girl said that she was from hubei. she pronounced it wubei in mandarin, so i assume that it was hubei in cantonese.

the room has both a massage table and a bed – with a hole for your head (nose). she made giggly noises when i immediately threw off the pajama shorts. i don't believe in wasting time. she covered my rear end with a towel.

on to the massage. she didn't stand on my back, like in the pamphlet picture (of the chinese massage), but rather she kneeled on top of my back. after enough spider massaging of the butt area, she asks you to flip over and dives straight for the erection. they use johnson's baby oil, instead of therapeutic sunflower oil. for some reason i notice these details.

since she can tell i'm all set to blow my load, she doesn't mind me copping multiple feels of her ahem a-cups.

afterwards there is still 30 minutes left and she doesn't shortchange me and still continues to massage my groin and thigh. nice girl, and nice place.

afterwards when i was changing, i noticed that the locker room boy had very obviously placed a twenty dollar bill in the changing stall next to me. i tip 10 rmb, and am told that the minimum is 20 rmb.

budding capitalists.

i tip my 20 rmb and notice that instead of pocketing it, he takes it to a central area and it goes into the communal tip jar. it reminds me of western restaurants that have a communal tip pot to spread with the chef, busboys, waiters, etc.

while paying the bill, a man in a suit gives me a numbered coupon. i can't read chinese, but i infer that it is for a freebie auxiliary service option such as: cupping, or milk massage, or hot stones, etc.

i wonder if full service is on the menu? since this is a couples place according to the pamphlets and the very visible dining area, i assume that full service may not be available – on the other hand i don't believe that the doors have those glazed windows.

that is one of my problems, i'm too busy blowing my load, when i should be asking 20 questions. i should punish myself by shipping myself back for another session.

There are 3 BBS on the other side of the river over the Haizhu Bridge off Jiangnan Road that have seemed to survived the crackdown. At least until now....

These 3 shops have 3-5 girls each. One opens early afternoon and the other 2 only after dark. Unfortunately, the girls are older and only 4-5s at best. Prices are 100-150RMB depending on your origin and negotiating skills.

I do not know the addresses, just know how to get there. They are difficult to find since they are located on small lanes off the beaten tracks which may be why they can survive. I can try to provide better directions to Senior Members in good standing via PM.

OAH

[quote=moondog123]i was swiveling my head and worried about finding this location when something funny happened. i saw the giant advertisement on the escalator wall of the metro's exit and figured that this must be it. it is called shui bo which according to them is supposed to mean 'water essence'.

at the exterior sidewalk is your familiar promotor girl toiling away behind a red booth, she hands me a pampthlet of prices: 188 rmb for chinese massage, 268 rmb for thai massage, and 298 rmb for renal oil massage. why did i choose the renal option? well the pampthlet had a picture of the thai massage that had the girl on her back and lifting up the man by his back to stretch him out – instead of my initial thai mental impression of a breasts massage.

off to the 8th floor i go and am warmly greeted by two more greeter girls. it is about 7:30 pm, relatively early but at least there are a handful of customers, a good sign. the showers are arranged in a swivel pattern with a variety of six popular shampoos.

they charge 15 rmb for the pajamas.

budding capitalists!

if you refuse, then you'll have to prance around in their thin bright pink towels – i kid you not about the colour.

adjacent to the showers, is a shallow pool area, and even a pool table!

while waiting in the armchair room, i notice that they have an actual food dining area which has the spouses / girlfriends of some of the customers. this place is relatively couples friendly.

mamasan tries to promote the two masseuses option which is about an extra 140 rmb.

i figure that if they're crappy at the single masseuse option, then likely they'll be crappy at the double masseuse option. i went with the single renal oil option.

at least mamasan sent a cutie, about 5'6", 110 lbs, big eyes, but not big breasts. nothing unusual about that combo – i'm not at rio spa or 18 spa. my masseuse girl said that she was from hubei. she pronounced it wubei in mandarin, so i assume that it was hubei in cantonese.

the room has both a massage table and a bed – with a hole for your head (nose). she made giggly noises when i immediately threw off the pajama shorts. i don't believe in wasting time. she covered my rear end with a towel.

on to the massage. she didn't stand on my back, like in the pamphlet picture (of the chinese massage), but rather she kneeled on top of my back. after enough spider massaging of the butt area, she asks you to flip over and dives straight for the erection. they use johnson's baby oil, instead of therapeutic sunflower oil. for some reason i notice these details.

since she can tell i'm all set to blow my load, she doesn't mind me copping multiple feels of her ahem a-cups.

afterwards there is still 30 minutes left and she doesn't shortchange me and still continues to massage my groin and thigh. nice girl, and nice place.

afterwards when i was changing, i noticed that the locker room boy had very obviously placed a twenty dollar bill in the changing stall next to me. i tip 10 rmb, and am told that the minimum is 20 rmb.

budding capitalists.

i tip my 20 rmb and notice that instead of pocketing it, he takes it to a central area and it goes into the communal tip jar. it reminds me of western restaurants that have a communal tip pot to spread with the chef, busboys, waiters, etc.

while paying the bill, a man in a suit gives me a numbered coupon. i can't read chinese, but i infer that it is for a freebie auxiliary service option such as: cupping, or milk massage, or hot stones, etc.

i wonder if full service is on the menu? since this is a couples place according to the pamphlets and the very visible dining area, i assume that full service may not be available – on the other hand i don't believe that the doors have those glazed windows.

that is one of my problems, i'm too busy blowing my load, when i should be asking 20 questions. i should punish myself by shipping myself back for another session.[/quote]

the minimum tip is zero or whatever you feel like giving. you wouldn't have given them a rmb100 if one was taped there. normally the note taped to the tip tray is fake, so you could say you don't have any fake money on you.

I think you can get FS at any place that is already offering HJ. I had posted about this before. Basically, the establishment wanted things clean on the book as they are afraid of raid and inspections. Since you typically pay on your way out, so all things on the book must be the stated price for standard services.

So the key is to give cash to the girl, and you need to just somehow prepare and bring cash with you on your naked self, typically something you are holding, like your cellphone, a cigarette carton. Once you have cash in hand, you can negociate anything with the girl, as long as the room is private.

F.

[QUOTE=Ritzfactor]I really don't think there is even a reason to try this. Overpriced with fake pictures. Why bother? The places to go have been listed in this thread over and over and over.

If your company has put you up at a hotel that is not GF, browse the thread and get a cheap room at a girl friendly hotel. Your total cost for the room + girl NOT from craigslist will be cheaper than the free hotel room + the craigslist girl. PLUS you will actually get to choose who you take with you! Not even counting the added benefit of being away from business guests or anything like that! Monger in peace!

GF and non GF hotels have also been discussed in this thread, just hit ctrl f and type the name of your hotel and click next till you find a useful report. For example, if I was staying at the Baiyun Hotel, I would hit ctrl f and type Baiyun into the little box, then I would hit next until I find a report saying its GF or not GF.[/QUOTE]As allways, I should have listened what I was told!

I got an overpriced, faked picture bad service for 800 rmb from graiglist.

Please, what is the nearest location for full service spa or SWs from Grand International Hotel?

I went back to Shiu Bo for another session. Unfortunately I didn't see all these new posts down below so unfortunately no success at obtaining full service.

I made a mistake and plopped down on the row with the TV armchairs. Across from me was the row of armchairs without TVs. On this busy Friday night of 9:00 PM I notice that you've got to pro-actively waive the maitre-d or the mamasans over to you otherwise the locals will engage in their one upmanship to pass you in the arrival order. Made a note to myself to sit on the armchairs without TVs next time.

Last night's mamasan wasn't there, and tonight's two mamasans couldn't speak Cantonese. Even the maitre-d couldn't speak Cantonese. They sent me the bus girl – of all people – to speak Cantonese. Tonight's masseuse was a major upgrade in boobs, but a downgrade in looks – which also means an upgrade in massage skills. There's a law of physics which seems to strictly control these relationships.

Ended up in the smaller room, but it had the handrails on the ceiling. Even though I opted for the 298 Renal Oil Massage, one can still ask the girl to walk on your back if you are into that type of fetish. Hand Job girls naturally tend to be quite good at that skill, tonight's masseuse used her other hand to continuously circulate the groin area, and the abductor area. The serious and studious look on her brow made it look like she was performing surgery. Just like last night's girl, this one immediately excuses herself to the handwash basin after the explosion.

Afterwards she did a pushup to force me back down when I thought that my session was over and tried to get up to leave. I forgot that these girls have an incentive to 'sell' you on an extra 45 minutes of time. She said that she works a shift from 8 AM to 6 PM in this 24 hour operation.

This was a rare time when I actually tried the free food = it is a buffet that I would generously rate it about a 3 out of 10 because that's what happens when buffet food is left out too long. When the fresh soup and rice were brought over, I naturally pounced on it.

Their orange juice is actually pop that tastes like a Fanta. This time I remembered to eat the watermelon slices after the session and not before, otherwise I will suffer from watermelon burps during the massage.

I guy fell asleep in the TV area, and the waitress plopped some blankets on top of him.

I wonder if we can sleep here overnight – like a Macau sauna??

This place is rather far away from the White Swan Hotel area, so I paid about 43 RMB taxi to get back south because the subway Metro seems to stop at around 10: 30 PM.

This is around the fourth time in my life that I've been forced to taxi myself back to the hotel because the time was after the public transportation cutoff.

All the times were related to mongering!

hey Guys,

I don't understand why you guys don't make a trip down to Changping instead of running around town looking for a SPA or massage place. You end up spending two to three hours at a spa and maybe another hour getting and going back to the spa.

From Guangzhou East Station, Changping is only 35 minutes away. That means 35 minutes there and 35 minutes back. It cost 60RMB if you go first class each way.

In changping, there are hundreds of places that offer full service. Actually there is one right beside the train station. About two blocks walk if on the main street in front of the station. After you get off the station, turn right on the main street in the front, keep working for about 5 to 10 minutes. YOU will see a big Massage place on the left hand side of the road.

The full service pricing for 1 hours is either 198RMB or 218RMB depending on what time of the day you go. Its 100rmb more if you want two hours service. The room price is included in this full service.

They also have foot massage too at which you get a H/J but you have to get two sessions of foot massage. I think its 48Rmb for each 80 minute session.

The best option is to go for the full service massage.. They usually have about 20 girls to choose from at any given time.

So from Guangzhou East Station to Dongguan Station(changping) 120RMB first class return plus the full service cost. 218 equals to 338RMB.

Total time spend: say 1 and half to go and come back and another hour for the service. Total 2 and half hours to a max of three hours.

Much better options for girls and better service for half the price.

ps. The room will have a proper shower and clean towels.

Changping has alot better options for sauna or full service massages/bbs and KTV's if you have time to stay there or spend a few extra hours.

Anyways, if anyone wants to go down int the next few days, let me know. I will be heading back and forth for the next few days. I usually stay in HK but these few days I am staying in GZ.

Take care
West

Did you get this?

13 times I have tried the Saunas in Guangzhou

72 Million People travel in Guangzhou a year

54 percent of males have tried the Saunas in Guangzhou

96 years of age is the oldest person to go to a sauna

42 Sauna girls every year in Guangzhou get pregnant.

0 times I have had FS. Looking for it in a bad way.

Nice thaimassage, food, great HJ and she let me finger her, 188 rmb, not bad after my 2 last night disasters.

It around the corner from Grand International Hotel, 182 Longhouxi Road, Tianhe.

Ouch! You've struck out in your search for FS. That is painful to hear.

I used to pay 288 RMB at the Landsman Hotel (way back in 2007). I do not feel like paying 598 RMB at the Guangdong Victory Hotel Spa, but at least that place is a confirmed FS is available. 600 RMB seems to be the range in Guangzhou. Someone else mentioned this phrase before: high demand but low supply of girls in Guangzhou.

[QUOTE=Dbhappiness] 0 times I have had FS. Looking for it in a bad way.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vompat]Nice thaimassage, food, great HJ and she let me finger her, 188 rmb, not bad after my 2 last night disasters.

It around the corner from Grand International Hotel, 182 Longhouxi Road, Tianhe.[/QUOTE]I think you mean.

Long kou xi. That's VERY close to my home. I'll check it out.

You guys are awesome.

Keep up the reports.

Shui Bo Massage

Address: West Tower 7th Floor(FS) 8th Floor (HJ/Spa) No. 623 Tianhe Entertainment Plaza, Tianhe Road, GZ

Exit Line 3 Gangding Station Exit A

walk up the stairs into the plaza, take the escalator up and look for elevators on your left.

If you are going on the 8th floor, dont get jipped by the Boys in the locker room. You can get clothes for free, they just want to sell you the 15rmb one time use ones.

I speak absolutely no chinese, menu is in English, they have at least one hostess that speaks english.

[QUOTE=Moondog123]...Someone else mentioned this phrase before: high demand but low supply of girls in Guangzhou.[/QUOTE]High demand from mostly cheapskates asking for ever lower price and as result, no supply naturally.

There are still quality to be found in bars, but they usually only go with foreigners, so if you are of Chinese origin, very difficult. I usually have to put in quite an effort to convince the better quality girl that I am in no way can be a cop, these include speaking English to the guy next to me, showing credit card and driver license from US but they usually insist on seeing passport first, which I don't usually carry with me.

F.

[QUOTE=Ritzfactor]Shui Bo Massage

Address: West Tower 7th Floor(FS) 8th Floor (HJ/Spa) No. 623 Tianhe Entertainment Plaza, Tianhe Road, GZ

Exit Line 3 Gangding Station Exit A

walk up the stairs into the plaza, take the escalator up and look for elevators on your left.

If you are going on the 8th floor, dont get jipped by the Boys in the locker room. You can get clothes for free, they just want to sell you the 15rmb one time use ones.

I speak absolutely no chinese, menu is in English, they have at least one hostess that speaks english.[/QUOTE]Can you confirm that Shui Bo Massage 7th floor is still FS? Even as we speak? I have been there. 8th floor. HJ. And yes they want you to tip them so much. I went to tip the Towel boy and as I did the "manager" stands next to me with his hand out. The place is nice and the Thai Massage was good. The girl really took her time when rubbing my shlong and the areas around it.

After speaking with the Masseuse (#103)

She assured me that if I come back, that I should go to the 7th floor and ask for her (#103) and she will "give love woo woo" (in her own words)

She did not tell me a price, however I assume once on the 7th floor, those things will be ironed out. I do feel that the price is rather expensive for the services (both spa and sexual) however, when you have to scratch the itch... its bearable.

(again, for all intents and purposes, I speak no mandarin/cantonese/chinese of any sort. If I am able to have the conversation, anyone that can read this sentence can as well)

As for tipping:

When it came time for the tip, I said in my horrible foreigner pronunciation
BU YAO and walked away.

I also do not like them hovering around me while I change or handling my clothes. They have to be present to unlock the locker, apart from that, I would be much happier if they were not there at all and attempt to get them away from me while I relax.

Going there tonight. Told they give BBBJCIM. Spa type place. Will let yas know later.

Address: 374 Huan Shi Dong Road, Guangzhou [Guangdong - Guangzhou - Yuexiu District (next to GARDEN HOTEL)

三茂酒店
地 址：广州市环市东路374号 邮 编：510060

[QUOTE=Dbhappiness]Can you confirm that Shui Bo Massage 7th floor is still FS? Even as we speak? I have been there. 8th floor. HJ. And yes they want you to tip them so much. I went to tip the Towel boy and as I did the "manager" stands next to me with his hand out. The place is nice and the Thai Massage was good. The girl really took her time when rubbing my shlong and the areas around it.[/QUOTE]Did you try what I suggested? Any such place you can get FS by giving cash to the girl directly. I had explained this at least two times.

F.

地 址：广州市!"#$374号 % &'510060
Mao Hotel, Guangzhou Hotel
Address: 374 Huan Shi Dong Road,
Guangzhou

So I went tonight. On the suggestion to do so by a Chinese friend of mine. He Tells me that the give BBBJCIM. GREAT! So I go. ¥15 Cab. Get to the hotel. 4th floor, Sauna. Nice place. Small. Typical as any spa. Get my ears cleaned. ¥27. The guy that cleans my ears asks for a tip of ¥30! WHAT! That is more than the service. I give Y10. Then to the Massage. Rooms is nice. Big bed. I notice the doors have a large exposed area. HMMM? People can see in and they do look. Girl was small but cute. Typical fly landing on your body massage. Nothing to it. She does not even go near my Wing wang. She can tell I'm aroused. Now she looks around to see if any one is watching. Reaches under the towel and starts a DRYHJ. She looked like she was robbing a bank. Nervous as hell. I tell her (by motioning) BJ. She shakes her head NO!. I ask several times. NO! Ok. So I just go with it. Done. What a rip off. My friend swears he has gone 4 times and gotten a BJ. Tip the Shower boys ¥15. They seem pissed off. But the Chinese guy with the Rolex only gave Y10. I hightail it out of there. ¥248 for the Sauna and Massage.

Another crappy outing in Guangzhou.

[QUOTE=Dbhappiness]地 址：广州市!"#$374号 % &'510060
Mao Hotel, Guangzhou Hotel
Address: 374 Huan Shi Dong Road,
Guangzhou

So I went tonight. On the suggestion to do so by a Chinese friend of mine. He Tells me that the give BBBJCIM. GREAT! So I go. ¥15 Cab. Get to the hotel. 4th floor, Sauna. Nice place. Small. Typical as any spa. Get my ears cleaned. ¥27. The guy that cleans my ears asks for a tip of ¥30! WHAT! That is more than the service. I give Y10. Then to the Massage. Rooms is nice. Big bed. I notice the doors have a large exposed area. HMMM? People can see in and they do look. Girl was small but cute. Typical fly landing on your body massage. Nothing to it. She does not even go near my Wing wang. She can tell I'm aroused. Now she looks around to see if any one is watching. Reaches under the towel and starts a DRYHJ. She looked like she was robbing a bank. Nervous as hell. I tell her (by motioning) BJ. She shakes her head NO!. I ask several times. NO! Ok. So I just go with it. Done. What a rip off. My friend swears he has gone 4 times and gotten a BJ. Tip the Shower boys ¥15. They seem pissed off. But the Chinese guy with the Rolex only gave Y10. I hightail it out of there. ¥248 for the Sauna and Massage.

Another crappy outing in Guangzhou.[/QUOTE]

I have told you how to get FS and it is fine you just don't listen, but you should not post exact info in Chinese where you are going and what you are getting as that will ruin any place that is getting something. People should PM you to get detailed info as otherwise you are telling the authority exactly where to go.

Under the current condition, you should never expect to just walk up to a new place and get FS. You have to first go and get to know someone, typically the girl who is giving you the service, and then find out from her how and only after that, on subsequent visits, that you can get what you want.

Also please keep in mind that GZ is a big city and thus will need to pay big city price for BBBJ FS from a young and cute thing, anywhere from 500-1500 depending on the girl's quality. You can get 30+ old choppy SW for 200, but do you want that?

Also about the room with the big window to look in, yes, all these places have different rooms. Only after they know you are a good customer that they will take you to a room in the back where no body will look.

I have posted before about where to find SW near Garden Hotel, so if you are really desparate, that would still be your last resort.

F.

I know this has been rejected many times but I want to give my two cents on this.
Considering the current situtation, there is really not much available in GZ so many may start thinking about using an online service.

This can actually work but you must be willing to pay for it. SW costing 200 are still available in Garden Hotel area, but if you are looking for slim, young and attractive girl, online might be your only option, aside from going down to CP. They will be more expensive, prepare to spend 1000-1500 depending on the girl, but if you put the 200 girl next to a 1500, I think you will go with the more expensive one.

First thing that everybody knows, those pictures are all fake, nothing new there. Key to remember is that the person answering the phone is never the girl you are looking for, that person is just an agent, or at least you want to find a place that is an agency so they have access to many girls.

Second, very important, call a few days, or at least a day in advance.

You may need to try a few different numbers, but key is to find one that you can really talk to and describe exactly what you are looking for. You need to do this in advance, as many of these services really use non-pro girls so they need to look for the girl and find out when she will be available. These are typically girls working in low end jobs like supermarket checkout lines and they will moonlight to quickly accumulate more income, and also to be able to tell their parents back home that they working in so and so places as a legit job.

I usually ask for younger then 23, weight no more then 45kg. The weight part is really the key. If they don't have such girl, call another place.

So you call and have them line up 2 or 3 girls that fit your description. When they finally send over the girl, you almost certainly will need to reject the 1st one, usually the 2nd girl or 3rd girl will work. You just need to pay taxi fee (I give a 50 bill) to send her back if you don't want her and usually there is no problem.

Since you had called in advance, it is more likely that you will find a really cute young thing and the rest is really up to you, in terms of what she will do for you, as it is all a matter of money.

Once you find a girl you like, you get her number and the rest of your stay will be all set.

Fillmore

Hello

Was recently in Guangzhou and put up at the shiaman city, wanted some action and inquired at the hotel for an innocent massage, was declined also guest policy was strict, so went about exploring the surrounds, found a place nearby and the boyz at the door promised some rub and tug and some tricks for a price. Was put through the regular sauna procedure, A nice one was assigned for the massage, began the regular massage which was passable, kept myself clothed reasonably just in case the boys in blue appeared. Got a HJ relief at the end of the session, returned to the room a pleased boy.

Will explore deeper on my next visit to the town.

BB

Hey Fillmore,

I really like your idea, but that is still an exorbitant price to pay! Perhaps for the busy monger that can still plan ahead it would work out.

I wonder if repeat business would still cost the ridiculous craiglist price (is there a reason you are mispelling it?)

[QUOTE=Ritzfactor]Hey Fillmore,

I really like your idea, but that is still an exorbitant price to pay! Perhaps for the busy monger that can still plan ahead it would work out.

I wonder if repeat business would still cost the ridiculous craiglist price (is there a reason you are mispelling it?)[/QUOTE]

Haha, the mispelling coming from someone's earlier post with that as a title, sorry for the pund.

On my last visit, also in the middle of a crack down, I called from US before coming to GZ, and found an agency who said had at least two girls fit my weight and age limit, and when I arrived, the 2nd girl they sent was really pretty, around 22 and weight 40kg at 1.60m. Yes, I paid her 1500, but I told her I will call and ask her to come again and I will pay 800 and she agreed, since these later visits she can keep all the money, while when sent by the agency, she can only keep half.

She did BBBJ and we have passionate 69 and made her came twice on that first date, and subsequent visits were wonderful as well. Everytime she came, she would dress up in some really sexy outfit and drove me crazy.

Interesting thing was that I later ran into her, a few month later, in a big shopping mall, and she was with her bf, some young Chinese guy, in an elevator. I could tell she recorgnized me but I didnt want to ruin her life, and that I was with a ZH ktv girl, so I didnt speak to her, and she was just as pretty as ever.

I usually have ktv girls from the past and fom ZH, so I have a high standard. I just wanted to give craiglist a try to see what is really going on, as everyone said it will never work. If you just call in the middle of the night out of desparation, then sure, you will get someone similar to those SW in Garden Hotel area, of one of those KAMA girl, worth about 150 and still ask you for 1000.

F.

Hi West,

I will be in GZ on the above mentioned dates. As per your earlier post, would it still be economical to go to CP? I'm staying at Holiday Inn. Would you recommend CP or there are areas near Holiday Inn. My budget is per your mentioned rates in CP.

BTW, am Asian and can speak mandarin and cantonese.

Your advise is highly appreciated.

Cheers!

AM2

[QUOTE=Asian Monger #2]Hi West,

I will be in GZ on the above mentioned dates. As per your earlier post, would it still be economical to go to CP? I'm staying at Holiday Inn. Would you recommend CP or there are areas near Holiday Inn. My budget is per your mentioned rates in CP.

BTW, am Asian and can speak mandarin and cantonese.

Your advise is highly appreciated.

Cheers!

AM2[/QUOTE]

I am not West but I would say stay in CP if you don't need to be in GZ for evening things. Problem with CP is that you must stay there for the night, as the last train is 10:45pm from GZ and there no train coming back after 10:30 from CP.

The morning train starts around 7am so as long as you can be sure to spend the night there and come into GZ in the morning, you should definitely stay there.

Holiday Inn GZ runs about 600 a night I guess and Clipper is same quality and only 300. Train tickets are about 60 each way, so it will definitely work out well financially.

I cannot do this because I usaully have things to do in GZ at night, like to have a nice dinner. I don't want to have to worry about missing the last train.

Fillmore

Thank you Fillmore for your kindness.

I have read about your recommendation for CP but as it's my first time in GZ and my supplier has booked the hotel for me, I can't be staying in CP if you know what I mean.

I am no stranger to the Shanghai BBS scene but that was 5 years ago.

Of course I do need the help of some seniors here familiar with GZ to give a best estimate.

I will keep on reading the previous posts to do my homework as this is expected in ISG before firing the questions.

Over and out.

AM2

Anyone happen to know any pink light districts in Xintang? Denim Supplier has me out here for a little while and I want to scratch my BBS itch. I know of some FS Saunas if anyone is interested but have yet to find any of the pink light BBS goodness.

[QUOTE=Ritzfactor]Anyone happen to know any pink light districts in Xintang? Denim Supplier has me out here for a little while and I want to scratch my BBS itch. I know of some FS Saunas if anyone is interested but have yet to find any of the pink light BBS goodness.[/QUOTE]Always interested in FS Saunas in Guangzhou. With the "crackdown" I thought they were hard to find? Can you give details. Any special things to know? Is your info up to date? I had been back to a few FS places only to find they had stopped. Not sure if I had to give a secret hand shake or anything. LOL. Any info would be great.

DB

[QUOTE=Asian Monger #2]Thank you Fillmore for your kindness.

I have read about your recommendation for CP but as it's my first time in GZ and my supplier has booked the hotel for me, I can't be staying in CP if you know what I mean.

I am no stranger to the Shanghai BBS scene but that was 5 years ago.

Of course I do need the help of some seniors here familiar with GZ to give a best estimate.

I will keep on reading the previous posts to do my homework as this is expected in ISG before firing the questions.

Over and out.

AM2[/QUOTE]Hey, PM me your cellphone.

I'm interested, will definately also hit Dongguan for fun!

I'm also maybe heading to Shenzhen/Zhuhai and HK/Macau.

If you or any other bros want to come, please pm me.

I'm available anytime to go, maybe a day trip or two.

Chat with you later guys, Salty.

Sorry to get your hopes up prematurely, the FS Saunas I was referring to are in Xintang, someone attempted to explain to me how Xintang was part of Guangzhou, whatever.

Anyway. I will be heading back to Shui Bo and checking out the 7th floor at some point. To find out one way or the other.

Hello Seniors,

Just checked in Holiday Inn Shifu.

Noticed there is a place called "Palace Spa" next to Holiday Inn.

Shall I go for it? Any reports of this type of place?

Thanks.

AM2

So happens that Zhuji road and He Ping Xi Lu is within walking distance to Holiday Inn.

Today is sunday 26th Sep.

Went hunting and walked past 88 Zhuji road, the BBS was closed. Then continued to 64 He Ping Xi Lu and the BBS is also closed.

Hopefully it's just a sunday and tomorrow will be back to business.

Will report back tomorrow.

AM2

Hey guys,

Anyone been to the SPA on Wuhan Lu, under the wuhan bridge on the left hand side or the road. If you go on Tianhe bei lu, turn left on Wuhan lu, instead of going over the bridge, go underneath it and make a U-turn under the bridge to return towards Tianhe bei lu. Its about half a block before you get back to tianhe bei lu, on Wuhan lu.

Its a 6000sqm spa. I heard from another guy that it has full service available but have not tried it. I am thinking of going there next week. If I do go, I will post if its has full service or not. But if someone has tried it already, please post your experience.

Thanks,

Andrew

[QUOTE=Asian Monger #2]So happens that Zhuji road and He Ping Xi Lu is within walking distance to Holiday Inn.

Today is sunday 26th Sep.

Went hunting and walked past 88 Zhuji road, the BBS was closed. Then continued to 64 He Ping Xi Lu and the BBS is also closed.

Hopefully it's just a sunday and tomorrow will be back to business.

Will report back tomorrow.

AM2[/QUOTE]

Forget about sauna and BBS in GZ, either head over to CP or just go hunt in bars. You are very near Paddy Field, so that is your best bet for finding quality. Go there thursday when they have the salsa night, as that place will be packed and only then those girls will show up.

F.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]Forget about sauna and BBS in GZ, either head over to CP or just go hunt in bars. You are very near Paddy Field, so that is your best bet for finding quality. Go there thursday when they have the salsa night, as that place will be packed and only then those girls will show up.

F.[/QUOTE]
Fillmore,
Tonite went down 88 Zhuji Road; closed. Then walked further, left at He Ping Xi Lu to no. 64 and closed.

Give up and head back to hotel. Now there is a "Palace Spa" next to my hotel. Upon inquiry for thai massage, it cost RMB288/90min. "No go" for now.

Maybe CP is really the best option. Still contemplating on that.

AM2

[QUOTE=Salty Wet Guy]Hey, PM me your cellphone.

I'm interested, will definately also hit Dongguan for fun!

I'm also maybe heading to Shenzhen/Zhuhai and HK/Macau.

If you or any other bros want to come, please pm me.

I'm available anytime to go, maybe a day trip or two.

Chat with you later guys, Salty.[/QUOTE]
Salty,
PMed u my cell.

AM2

FR of Sauna of Wa King Town Hotel (Wah Jing Tonne Hotel - Mandarin Pinyin pronounciation)

Went to this sauna as reported before expecting for a great experience.

Was there on 28-Sep around 5:30pm and not a soul in sight in this sauna.

I was like oh shit. Changed clothes, took a shower, then went to the lounge. It was dark and not a ghost in sight. Another shit. The locker guy then took me to a narrow corridor down 2 flights of stairs and behind walks a thin WL.

The massage from the girl was 3/10 w/o strength but she started massage in front and concentrated area around the groin. I expected HJ in the package of RMB218 but there was none.

Negotiated for FJ with the girl with 1st quote of RMB500 then down to RMB300. For her quality, I wouldn't pay for that level. Girl quality was 5/10 though the face was cute but GFE was 4/10. So just chatted and finish the session with no happy ending.

Looks like the Asian Games has really scared the wits of these providers.

Guangzhou is not fun.

over and out!

AM2

[QUOTE=Asian Monger #2]FR of Sauna of Wa King Town Hotel (Wah Jing Tonne Hotel - Mandarin Pinyin pronounciation)

Went to this sauna as reported before expecting for a great experience.

Was there on 28-Sep around 5:30pm and not a soul in sight in this sauna.

I was like oh shit. Changed clothes, took a shower, then went to the lounge. It was dark and not a ghost in sight. Another shit. The locker guy then took me to a narrow corridor down 2 flights of stairs and behind walks a thin WL.

The massage from the girl was 3/10 w/o strength but she started massage in front and concentrated area around the groin. I expected HJ in the package of RMB218 but there was none.

Negotiated for FJ with the girl with 1st quote of RMB500 then down to RMB300. For her quality, I wouldn't pay for that level. Girl quality was 5/10 though the face was cute but GFE was 4/10. So just chatted and finish the session with no happy ending.

Looks like the Asian Games has really scared the wits of these providers.

Guangzhou is not fun.

over and out!

AM2[/QUOTE]

You are desparate man, please go down to CP or ZH or try out the bars will you? I had been chatting with a ktv girl in ZH and she said they have been seeing many new girls of excellent quality recently. GZ's lost is ZH's gain I guess.

You are the best in terms of reporting back though, keep that up please.

Fillmore

[QUOTE=Asian Monger #2]
Maybe CP is really the best option. Still contemplating on that.

AM2[/QUOTE]

AM2,

I sent you a PM.

OAH

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]AM2,

I sent you a PM.

OAH[/QUOTE]Replied ur PM.

AM2

Field Report:

Establishment: Palace Spa
Place: next to holiday inn Shifu
Date: 29-Sep
Time: 4pm
Girl no: 29
Origin: from Guangzhou
Age: around 30
Face: 5/10
Body: ?/10 (can't make out cuz the uniform they wear masked the curvature)
Boobs: 32A (I guess)
Massage: 6/10 (passable)
HJ: 6/10 (not a standard but after much enticing with tips)
Roaming: north and south with clothes on of course
Facility: 9/10 (sauna type with pool and the whole 9-yards as expected in GZ scene)
Damage: RMB198 + RMB100(for HJ pay at the counter)
WIR: yes

After yesterday's disaster at sauna de Wah Jing Tonne Hotel, I'd thought to salvage the remaining days of my GZ days by giving another try at this spa just 10 steps across from my hotel at Holiday Inn Shifu.

Go to the entrance, take elevator down, and come to the reception. It was rather big. Then a girl gave me a key ring and asked me if I have my regular girl I replied no. She walked me down a flight of stairs to the locker room where a young man took over. This place looked huge!!

Change, take a shower, and dip in the regular pool naked. It's huge. Thank God there wasn't any patrons yet. Noticed there is a wet sauna room, a hot pool, warm pool, and ice pool and resting area. After dipping in the pool, walk upstairs again to the eating area and TV lazy couch. Again this place is humongous!! They have like 4 sections of these TV lazy couch and I'm guessing they must have like 100 of these couches total.

Alright watch a little TV and mamasan comes over to ask for preference. I asked her discreetly if this spa offers HJ in the massage and she said no. So I guess they have to deny it outside to protect themselves. Then I asked her for an experienced massage lady. Once available, she led me to a roam with a bed. ML was inside already and here starts the session.

Got to talking with the ML in Mandarin first and then switch to Cantonese once found out she's local. Eventually talked about HJ and she eventually agreed to do it and tips is up to me to give at the counter. The HJ was not fantastic but better than none compared to yesterday.

After the massage, when out to the dinning area for my dinner at 7:30pm and customers are more and more. Finished eating, sat at the TV lazy couch for fruits. 9pm, change and head out to pay. I'd say the damage is value for money given the facility which we don't get it back home for that price.

AM2

[QUOTE=Asian Monger #2]Field Report:

Establishment: Palace Spa
Place: next to holiday inn Shifu
Date: 29-Sep
Time: 4pm
Girl no: 29
Origin: from Guangzhou
Age: around 30
Face: 5/10
Body: ?/10 (can't make out cuz the uniform they wear masked the curvature)
Boobs: 32A (I guess)
Massage: 6/10 (passable)
HJ: 6/10 (not a standard but after much enticing with tips)
Roaming: north and south with clothes on of course
Facility: 9/10 (sauna type with pool and the whole 9-yards as expected in GZ scene)
Damage: RMB198 + RMB100(for HJ pay at the counter)
WIR: yes

After yesterday's disaster at sauna de Wah Jing Tonne Hotel, I'd thought to salvage the remaining days of my GZ days by giving another try at this spa just 10 steps across from my hotel at Holiday Inn Shifu.

Go to the entrance, take elevator down, and come to the reception. It was rather big. Then a girl gave me a key ring and asked me if I have my regular girl I replied no. She walked me down a flight of stairs to the locker room where a young man took over. This place looked huge!!

Change, take a shower, and dip in the regular pool naked. It's huge. Thank God there wasn't any patrons yet. Noticed there is a wet sauna room, a hot pool, warm pool, and ice pool and resting area. After dipping in the pool, walk upstairs again to the eating area and TV lazy couch. Again this place is humongous!! They have like 4 sections of these TV lazy couch and I'm guessing they must have like 100 of these couches total.

Alright watch a little TV and mamasan comes over to ask for preference. I asked her discreetly if this spa offers HJ in the massage and she said no. So I guess they have to deny it outside to protect themselves. Then I asked her for an experienced massage lady. Once available, she led me to a roam with a bed. ML was inside already and here starts the session.

Got to talking with the ML in Mandarin first and then switch to Cantonese once found out she's local. Eventually talked about HJ and she eventually agreed to do it and tips is up to me to give at the counter. The HJ was not fantastic but better than none compared to yesterday.

After the massage, when out to the dinning area for my dinner at 7:30pm and customers are more and more. Finished eating, sat at the TV lazy couch for fruits. 9pm, change and head out to pay. I'd say the damage is value for money given the facility which we don't get it back home for that price.

AM2[/QUOTE]


I must say it's kind of sad when it's tough to even get an HJ in china... Since CP is so close, I would bite the bullet and come down to CP via train. Only a 45 min. train ride, and you can have a slice of paradise... I think if you allocated about 4 hours, you could be there and back with a smile on your face...

Too bad the crackdowns are so bad in GZ... But with other options so close... I'd definitely give it a whirl.

p.s. is there a current trade show or something in Dongguan? Seems like there are a ton more non-chinese than usual.

-J

[QUOTE=Jettsetter]I must say it's kind of sad when it's tough to even get an HJ in china... Since CP is so close, I would bite the bullet and come down to CP via train. Only a 45 min. train ride, and you can have a slice of paradise... I think if you allocated about 4 hours, you could be there and back with a smile on your face...

Too bad the crackdowns are so bad in GZ... But with other options so close... I'd definitely give it a whirl.

p.s. is there a current trade show or something in Dongguan? Seems like there are a ton more non-chinese than usual.

-J[/QUOTE]

I think the problem with CP is that the train does not run 24 hrs. At least, that was the problem for me. The last train leaves 10:45pm and considering the traffic and the walk, you have to leave Holiday Inn, Garden Hotel etc central location about 10PM in order not to miss the train, and then you cannot come back, have to stay in CP. For most business people like myself, we have work to do during the day and also dinners to go to after work, so it is not really practical to go down to CP, unless you can somehow manage to be staying there, but then, the discussion would not be in the GZ board.

So is there an alternative transportation solution that is reliable, comfortable, fast and 24 hrs? I know you can always take a taxi but I would not consider that to be comfortable, considering the long ride.

F.

Hi all,

I will visit Guangzhou for the first time for a duration of 6 days starting Friday next week.

I read all the reports here but it seems like it is very difficult to get a girl in Guangzhou these days. And I really would like to be able to bring girls back to my hotel for overnights.

If you can give me some advice about the places I should go visit or, even better, some contact information about girls you would recommend, I would be very thankfull.

I understand craigslist is a rip off so please PM me any info that could help me in my quest.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Clefairy]Hi all,

I will visit Guangzhou for the first time for a duration of 6 days starting Friday next week.

I read all the reports here but it seems like it is very difficult to get a girl in Guangzhou these days. And I really would like to be able to bring girls back to my hotel for overnights.

If you can give me some advice about the places I should go visit or, even better, some contact information about girls you would recommend, I would be very thankfull.

I understand craigslist is a rip off so please PM me any info that could help me in my quest.

Thanks[/QUOTE]
Read the previous posts from Fillmore. You'll find your answers.

I'm sure Fillmore couldn't agree with me more.

AM2

[QUOTE=Asian Monger #2]Read the previous posts from Fillmore. You'll find your answers.

I'm sure Fillmore couldn't agree with me more.

AM2[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, I can't leave GZ as I will be free only at night time. CP and ZH are unfortunately not possible options for me.

That's why I was hoping some help with GZ.

Thanx anyway.

Hey Brothers,

It's been a long time... Living in Guangzhou, working hard and settled down..
Anyway have a few days free, so anyone want to catch up for a meal or drink. Drop me a PM. Can give some great advise to newbees.

F SOLO

[QUOTE=Flying Solo]Hey Brothers,

It's been a long time... Living in Guangzhou, working hard and settled down..
Anyway have a few days free, so anyone want to catch up for a meal or drink. Drop me a PM. Can give some great advise to newbees.

F SOLO[/QUOTE]How long are you going to be there? I will be in town end of Nov, beginning Dec, would love to hang out, the Bounds and etc.

Since the closure of Tang, and clearing out of KAMA, it will be interesting to see what you can turn up, as YOU ARE THE MAN.

F.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]How long are you going to be there? I will be in town end of Nov, beginning Dec, would love to hang out, the Bounds and etc.

Since the closure of Tang, and clearing out of KAMA, it will be interesting to see what you can turn up, as YOU ARE THE MAN.

F.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the props F. Im planning a trip home late november through to mid jan, but drop me a line as soon as you land in Guangzhou. What's the meaning of "clearing out of KAMA", I havent been there for ages...

Solo

[QUOTE=Flying Solo]...What's the meaning of "clearing out of KAMA", I havent been there for ages...

Solo[/QUOTE]Oh, basically no Chinese WG in kama, overall very few WG at all, basically KAMA has been targeted and there was a raid recently, some arrest.

But you should still go take look as that was a month ago and maybe it has returned to normal?

F.

Dear all,

I will stay 2 nights in an hotel near Bayun airport. Do you know sauna with fs near the airport and could you help me to find it. If not do you have phone number of escort girl who accept to go to my hotel.

Best regards

I'm heading back to Guangzhou in a couple weeks. The hotel I stay at has a "spa" where you can order a girl to go to your room for FS for 700 yuan.
I think they just call an escort service and have the girl come over. So, you don't get to see her first. Last time I set up a date from the spa for my coworker and he said the girl was hot. But he couldn't speak a word of chinese so it turned out to be not much fun for him and not worth 700.
It is a business hotel with regular rooms for 450 and "executive" rooms for around 800. It's located near Zhongshan University on the river. PM me if anyone wants the name and address of the hotel.

I read a lot on here about CP so I think I will check it out. Not sure what to do though... do I just get off the train and ask a taxi to take me to a sauna? Or if I wander around long enough will somebody approach me with offers? If I decide to stay overnight can someone recommend a hotel for 150-200?

[QUOTE=Legigi]Dear all,

I will stay 2 nights in an hotel near Bayun airport. Do you know sauna with fs near the airport and could you help me to find it. If not do you have phone number of escort girl who accept to go to my hotel.

Best regards[/QUOTE]FS is getting hard to find for cheap in GZ. The 2010 Asian Games has killed a lot of the fun.

If looking for FS you can go on CRAIGS LIST.

[url]http://guangzhou.craigslist.com.cn/ers/[/url]

The Photos are fake. But you will get a girl. Call the number or text. Try a few days before you want the girl so they can maybe get you a girl you like. You are looking at 800 to 1000 RMB.

[QUOTE=Legigi]Dear all,

I will stay 2 nights in an hotel near Bayun airport. Do you know sauna with fs near the airport and could you help me to find it. If not do you have phone number of escort girl who accept to go to my hotel.

Best regards[/QUOTE]Also we can not give out Phone numbers here. You have to a member to get personal e-mails. That way I / WE can send you the number info..

[QUOTE=China 69]I read a lot on here about CP so I think I will check it out. Not sure what to do though... do I just get off the train and ask a taxi to take me to a sauna? Or if I wander around long enough will somebody approach me with offers? If I decide to stay overnight can someone recommend a hotel for 150-200?[/QUOTE]If you have any doubts about what to do in CP, call Big Swinging Dave. He knows CP and for a tiny fee can help you with EVERYTHING you want to do.

Here is a link for his services

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1063042&postcount=324[/url]

If you have the choice of heading to CP, the nightlife is FAR better than in GZ and well worth the trip.

Hi There,

I'm new to China, Do you guys have a suggestion for a newbie to find some tail around the "Huashi Guangdong Hotel"?

Thanks,

W.S

[QUOTE=Woodenship]Hi There,

I'm new to China, Do you guys have a suggestion for a newbie to find some tail around the "Huashi Guangdong Hotel"?

Thanks,

W.S[/QUOTE]If you are young, white, good looking, you can try to make friends with the students as your hotel is right next to the South China Normal University, which happen to have the best looking colleage girls, and they are always looking for handsome white guys to practice their English.

F.

Hi all,

I'm staying at the Yun Shan hotel, GZ in a couple of weeks, near the zoo I'm told.. anyone know of any good massage places round there? I know there's one in the hotel but staying with colleagues and not wanting to sht on my own doorstep so to speak! Thanks in advance!

Newbie to GZ

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]If you are young, white, good looking, you can try to make friends with the students as your hotel is right next to the South China Normal University, which happen to have the best looking colleage girls, and they are always looking for handsome white guys to practice their English.

F.[/QUOTE]Actually, I stayed at this hotel last fall and it's not next to the University, it's actually within the University grounds itself and caters mostly to people visiting the university. This being so, I was kind of reluctant to partake of the "hobby" as there's just too many spying eyes around/too close to the reason why I needed to stay there.

But the 'urge" being what it was, I did wander out and found some little local places close by. I walked it but it's quite a walk and thus you may want to taxi it there. Basically, as you walk out the FRONT entrance of the hotel (not the entrance towards the you grounds) turn right and keep walking until you reach where your street is a flyover over a cross street. Go down this cross street and there you will find a few massage/footsy places/BBS etc. Very local but OK. At least it was last year.

Sorry, Cannot think of the actual street names but believe the above shud be good enough directions

SEAJ

Hi everyone,

I have arrived in GuangZhou and I have seen there is a KTV at the end of JingTai market (there is also a "snooker" sign). Does anybody know if it is a special ktv?

Any place you would recommend in the area? ktv? BBS?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Clefairy]Hi everyone,

I have arrived in GuangZhou and I have seen there is a KTV at the end of JingTai market (there is also a "snooker" sign). Does anybody know if it is a special ktv?

Any place you would recommend in the area? ktv? BBS?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Clefairy,

Why don't you go in and check it out yourself .you are already there and you don't want to go inside and take a look.

Fast eddie 48

The Canton trade fair is coming on again - and as is usual, there are going to be a lot of you 'relative newbies to GZ' coming over.

And as is usual, there is going to be lots of you asking questions, for recommendations/suggestions etc... and NO replies.

The reason for this is that we the China boards have regularly seen this "phenomenom" happening everytime the Fair rolls around or something or another happening in the locale - and I'd opine that most of us are just too jaded to reply, knowing from past experience that we do not get anything in return by way of reports back or any additional intel on the scene. On top of everything else, we are always wary of the single digit poster asking for specifics, for there could be an LE lurking behind such new names.

Our hobby is very much still illegal in China and whilst tolerated,(since the demand from the locals is very much there), the authorities are equally eager to portray a nice and clean China to the foreign community - and thus ISG seems to attract unequal attention.

Having said that, I would suggest that you do please read the thread thoroughly as there is already a ton of useful information contained herein. And there's nothing worse than a guy asking questions when it's quite apparent that he's not already RTFF.

So my humble suggestion - please do read this thread before you ask your question - you'd probably get a better chance of getting a reply then.

Just IMHO

SEAJ

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]The Canton trade fair is coming on again - and as is usual, there are going to be a lot of you 'relative newbies to GZ' coming over.
[/QUOTE]

For those of us who live here, April and October, are the worst time to be in GZ. Prices for everything go up and the town is full of BSDs with deep pockets and no brains spoiling the market. It always takes time for the girls to come back to reality even after the fair.

That said, the crackdown is still going on and it is more difficult to find action in Guangzhou, which means the laws of supply and demand will increase prices even higher.

I am looking forward to the end of the fair and the Asia Games when I hope things will be back to normal.

I also urge newbies to RTTF and be informed on pricing to maintain stability in the aftermath. I am sure that there will still be many BSDs without the benefit of ISG access spoiling the market but at least the ISG brotherhood can help.

Just my POV.

OAH

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]For those of us who live here, April and October, are the worst time to be in GZ. Prices for everything go up and the town is full of BSDs with deep pockets and no brains spoiling the market. It always takes time for the girls to come back to reality even after the fair.
.......

I am looking forward to the end of the fair and the Asia Games when I hope things will be back to normal.

I also urge newbies to RTTF and be informed on pricing to maintain stability in the aftermath. ......

OAH[/QUOTE]

After being out of Asia for 3 months I will be back in November. The scenario described by OAH is the reason that I postponed my trip for 4 weeks. The "BSDs with deep pockets" make it more or less useless for me to be on the road. And even a few weeks after the fair we will feel the effects of this non standard "demand and supply" situation.

My experience is that newbies and also BSD I know are not so much interested to follow existing standard procedures. They mostly argue that they want to support WG they met and that they don't care about their impact to the market. They come once or twice a year to Asia and for them it doesn't matter if they pay twice or threetimes prices as usual. They want to feel good.
Therefore I gave up to convince them. And I avoid the area during such peak times.

Hi there,

I will be in GZ for the fair duering the peak time and I am obviously one of your mentioned BSDs although that I normally do not spoil any going rates.
However I do not really get it why WHOMER posts exactly OAH meanings and both posts are pretty much the same what SEAJ posted lately.
Is there any reason for repeating the prejudice words about the peak time visitors?
Anyways once that I get to GZ I will post some details about Craigslist-ads and massage-outcall szene.
Lets keep the Forum going....
Can anybody give me some more options to try in GZ?

SHTRAVELLER

Hi gentlemen,

I am planning a trip to Guagzhou and Shenzhen next year and wonder what are the options of pussy in China? I am very much familiar with Thailand, Singapore, to some extent places like Macau and Hong Kong. But what about Guangzhou? I know it must be more "underground" in the Mainland China but is there a chance for a foreigner to get a hot chick fix in a dedicated establishment? I have nebver been to China before and have zero knowledge on how things work there. I'd be thankful (even for a link to some older posts answering similar questions).

[QUOTE=Der Tourist]Hi gentlemen,

I am planning a trip to Guagzhou and Shenzhen next year and wonder what are the options of pussy in China? I am very much familiar with Thailand, Singapore, to some extent places like Macau and Hong Kong. But what about Guangzhou? I know it must be more "underground" in the Mainland China but is there a chance for a foreigner to get a hot chick fix in a dedicated establishment? I have nebver been to China before and have zero knowledge on how things work there. I'd be thankful (even for a link to some older posts answering similar questions).[/QUOTE]

If you had read a few more posts you would have found that Guangzhou is not what you want, should go to DongGuan board for info in CP, which is located between Guangzhou and Shenzhen.

You should PM david for his help


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Fillmore

[QUOTE=SHtraveller]Hi there,

I will be in GZ for the fair duering the peak time and I am obviously one of your mentioned BSDs although that I normally do not spoil any going rates.
However I do not really get it why WHOMER posts exactly OAH meanings and both posts are pretty much the same what SEAJ posted lately.
Is there any reason for repeating the prejudice words about the peak time visitors?
Anyways once that I get to GZ I will post some details about Craigslist-ads and massage-outcall szene.
Lets keep the Forum going....
Can anybody give me some more options to try in GZ?

SHTRAVELLER[/QUOTE]

Please be BSD and spoil the going rate! GZ used to be a much better place with guality WG to be found when price was higher. Price is too low so the better, younger girls don't work in this city anymore.

It is more expensive to live in GZ than in places like CP and if a 22 year old can get 1000 in BJ, SH, why would she stick around GZ when the going rate is 200?

I am just so sick and tired of all those 30+ years, fat and ugly in all those bars and walking the streets. Sure they are cheap, but they also driving away the younger girls. Just MHO.

So SHtraveller, please find out where we can find these better quality and report back. As far as I know, there are still a few, and they work in bars that are more popular with foreigners, Paddy Field, Hooleys, Bound, to name a few.

F.

[quote=fillmore st]if you had read a few more posts you would have found that guangzhou is not what you want, should go to dongguan board for info in cp, which is located between guangzhou and shenzhen.

you should pm david for his help


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fillmore[/quote]thanks. i assume that gz is not a monger's paradise. i'll be hittin macau and bangkok at the same time so i guess that will be enough. gz was not related to mongering and i'm merely going to do the regular sightseeing of skyscrapers and architecture. just though i could hit some *****house in case this scene was prominent enough.

Ocean hotel, 4th floor.

Price 998 for 90mins

Massage so so, tongue bath, fire and ice covered BJ then the main event.

I was presented to choose from 3 ladies all young 6 - 8 in looks and body.

Have fun.

Hi guys,

I used to find plenty columbian girls in TANG, also sometimes in this night club called BOUND. Very nice ladies.

I haven't been back to Guangzhou for a long time.

Can anyone please tell me if still possible to enjoy a huge stock of sexy latina in Guangzhou? Where is the best venue to meet them?

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Red Hawk]Ocean hotel, 4th floor.

Price 998 for 90mins

Massage so so, tongue bath, fire and ice covered BJ then the main event.

I was presented to choose from 3 ladies all young 6 - 8 in looks and body.

Have fun.[/QUOTE]You can get the same service for 298rmb, Ming Hong Hotel Xicun.

Pm me if you help.

Cheers,

Solo

HI people,

I came across this site it seems like many indepenants however it could be fake pics, has anyone had any experiance?

[url]http://www.expatchn.com/[/url]

Thanks

Hi All,

Last year I went to the massage/Sauna in the Asia International hotel. Got a fantastic massage and HJ (No FS on offer at the time). I also got many extra services in the rest area like foot massage, pedicure etc, which was relaxing. I'm going to check it out tonight as see if things are the same or changed. Will report later. After getting FS service from my hotel Ocean, I am hopefil.

Report later

[QUOTE=David Yao]Hi guys,

I used to find plenty columbian girls in TANG, also sometimes in this night club called BOUND. Very nice ladies.

I haven't been back to Guangzhou for a long time.

Can anyone please tell me if still possible to enjoy a huge stock of sexy latina in Guangzhou? Where is the best venue to meet them?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Tang is closed and KAMA emptied, so you need to hunt more places. One sure bet is Paddy Field on Thursdays, where the GZ salssa party attract tons of people and whenever there is a big group for cover, the WG will showup, latina included.

F.

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I have a phone number of a "guy" that can get you a girl for 400 rmb. Plus taxi fee. FS one pop. Can bargain for the second pop. The girl can be hit and miss. You don't have much say in the girl. This guy is Chinese and his English is very, very poor. If your Chinese is good then you are golden. Maybe you can tell him the type of girl you want. He hangs out on the corner of Long Kou Dong Lu. Next to the Majestic Hotel. (Gang Ding metro stop)

PM me if you want the number

DB

Arrived in Guangzhou a couple days ago. Woke up at 2am Fri (still jetlagged) and went out to some bars on YanJiang Lu by the river but everything was closed! I thought bars are open until 4am. So anyway, met some girls walking around on the riverfront around 3am and one asked me to go to her place for 300. We hung out at her place for 2 hours (massage, lots of bbbj, fs) and I had a great time.
So I'm wondering, whats the best bar around Yanjiang Lu to hang out at? As a lone foreigner I'm kind of shy to walk into Chinese nightclubs without knowing anything about them beforehand. I saw Babyface, Soho, D8, Bound, and 1 or 2 others.

[QUOTE=SHtraveller]However I do not really get it why WHOMER posts exactly OAH meanings and both posts are pretty much the same what SEAJ posted lately.
Is there any reason for repeating the prejudice words about the peak time visitors?[/QUOTE]

SHtraveller,

You are right. No reason.

I just wanted to post my opinion on the situation in GZ during the trade fair periods.

That said, most BSD punters in town for the fair could give a rats ass about paying too much and they will do so anyway. And, the WGs will have a heyday ripping them off for the fools they are. The same way the hotels, restaurants and shopkeepers do.

Our warning posts will land on deaf ears and are a total waste of bandwidth.

Just my POV.

OAH

[QUOTE=China 69]Arrived in Guangzhou a couple days ago. Woke up at 2am Fri (still jetlagged) and went out to some bars on YanJiang Lu by the river but everything was closed! I thought bars are open until 4am. So anyway, met some girls walking around on the riverfront around 3am and one asked me to go to her place for 300. We hung out at her place for 2 hours (massage, lots of bbbj, fs) and I had a great time.

So I'm wondering, whats the best bar around Yanjiang Lu to hang out at? As a lone foreigner I'm kind of shy to walk into Chinese nightclubs without knowing anything about them beforehand. I saw Babyface, Soho, D8, Bound, and 1 or 2 others.[/QUOTE]Definately Bound if you're looking for quality ass.

Cheers,

Solo

Im Staying at the Ocean hotel, which is across Holiday in City center and not too far from the garden hotel. I say some street walkers and was approched a few times..... however all old and ugly.

Anyone have any luck else where?

[QUOTE=Red Hawk]Im Staying at the Ocean hotel, which is across Holiday in City center and not too far from the garden hotel. I say some street walkers and was approched a few times..... however all old and ugly.

Anyone have any luck else where?[/QUOTE]

GZ has a lot of these old/fat/ugly walking the street and there is no way to clear them out.

I have posted about Paddy Field a few times, anyone tried that? It is one of the two Irish bars in GZ, with the other one been Hooley's. Both have WG, and you should go to Hooleys on Tue and Paddy on Thursday when the crowd is big. Paddy is right behind Garden Hotel so it is close to your hotel.

F.

Hi,

I went to a hotel sauna I visited last year. Got a nice massage and a HJ for 1 hour. Now I am totally relaxed, just what the doctor orderd after 2 days of walking around Canton fair.

Came back to my hotel and thought why not have a drink before I crash out for the night. The bar only had aboyt 10 people in it and 2 where working girls. They approched me and sat next to me for small talk with prospects of a shag. I however was not remotly attrached to the ugly B****S.

Time for bed.

Good night.

I took some tips from OLDASIAHAND about a BBS still in Guangzhou that offers service.

I decided to venture out and see for myself. Went tonight. Found the place. Went in and ask for massage. They said Ok. I went a room with many massage tables. I asked how much. The girl said 30rmb. I said "sex massage"? And she looked stunned that I would ask such a thing. She said NO! So I left. Guess that place is not doing it anymore?

Feeling rejected and wanting to get some relief I decided to walk around the garden Hotel. It's around 11pm now. The place is swamped with Westerners and such for the TRADE FAIR. Sure enough a Chinese guy (JACK) asks me if I want a Chinese girl. I ask how much and he is so cool he tells me in US dollars. So used to the Westerners I suppose. He says $150. 00. I get his card. He is willing to bargain. But I tell him I will Call him. I start to walk East on Huanshi East Road. Just to see if there is any action. Another guy named Suana asks me if I want a girl. He tells me 500rmb. I get his card. I keep walking. I am about to call it a night when I come to a corner and a pretty Chinese girl comes up to me and asks if I want Sex massage. 500rmb she tells me. Blood starts to pump and the "MALE" in me says OK!. She then summons her 2 friends over. Nicely dresses and attractive. They are all very friendly. The "HEAD" girl, ALING speaks great english and she asks if I want 2 girls for 700. Ok! The 3 girls and I pile in a cab and we are off. They were very nice. They told me they were heading to BIG BOSS CLUB later that night. Aling by far was the pretties. Face 8. Body 8. The 2 others were attractive as well. Some meat on their bones. But by no means fat. I would say 7/6. We get to my place. All three girls in my room. Aling says 2 girls 2 pops 700. All 3 girls 2 Pops 1000. Hell, all three are there now so I say SURE. These girls are pros. All undress and shower. The 2 other girls had some signs of having a baby. But still very very doable. They are very careful. Never to use the same condom twice. Even with CBJ. All three give me CBJ. Then after a change of condoms I fucked all three. Many positions. Blew my load and it was a time for a rest. We all sat for 20 min talking. They laughed at my question about if they had boyfriends. "No, not with what they do". They also have "day Jobs". This is a weekend thing. I am very interested in the life of a WG. Round 2 then started on the couch. 3 Naked girls again. I went for the CBJ. As many of you know the second time takes much longer. Again a switch of condoms and all three took a turn. The CBJ just does not do it for me and after 20 min of sucking I suggest losing the condom and all three jerk me off. 3 hands at one time. That did the trick.

Gave them 50rmb for the TAXI. (They asked 100 and I scoffed at that) They gave me a number to contact them. I have this number if you guys want it. PM for the number. Also I can give you the numbers of the 2 guys I met on the street. I guess I should learn to bargain a bit more. Still though. 3 girls was a great thing!

Let me know if you want the numbers

DBH

DBH that sounds like a great time!

May have to get that number from you if you are done with the triplet for the time being!

I do not know when I will be in the GZ City area with a hotel available in the near future though, so I guess will have to figure something out.

Been meaning to head back over to Shui Bo or whatever it was again as well, still haven't had the time!

I might be heading over to Paddy's this thursday to see what the scene is like... but all depends ...

Hi all,

Went with a few friends to a bar called Babyface somewhere in downtown, was a great night and a few WG in the bar, some cuties too they were asking 1000 ST, this is before any neg for price. I assume can get for 500. 800. There also other bars/clubs in a row, went a couple of others and didn't see any WG but the crowd were really friendy and made friends and got a telephone number from a local. Was a great laugh.

I didn't end up taking anyone back to the room, too drunk. However may do that tomorrow.

Guangzhou is not as dead as you think. Admit not as good as other places but can have fun. Just need to look around, ask people, ask taxi driver, hotel staff, other people in your hotel. Etc

[QUOTE=Red Hawk]Hi all,

Went with a few friends to a bar called Babyface somewhere in downtown, was a great night and a few WG in the bar, some cuties too they were asking 1000 ST, this is before any neg for price. I assume can get for 500. 800. There also other bars/clubs in a row, went a couple of others and didn't see any WG but the crowd were really friendy and made friends and got a telephone number from a local. Was a great laugh.

I didn't end up taking anyone back to the room, too drunk. However may do that tomorrow.

Guangzhou is not as dead as you think. Admit not as good as other places but can have fun. Just need to look around, ask people, ask taxi driver, hotel staff, other people in your hotel. Etc[/QUOTE]Very true, Guangzhou is not dead yet. But its quite time consuming and hard work these days, especially if you want some quality.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]Tang is closed and KAMA emptied, so you need to hunt more places. One sure bet is Paddy Field on Thursdays, where the GZ salssa party attract tons of people and whenever there is a big group for cover, the WG will showup, latina included.

F.[/QUOTE]Appreciate it man!

I went to Paddi fied a couple of times too but with regular crowd, was not paying attention to the picking up scenes but hopefully would get some luck out there!

What about BOUND? Shall I go there for the Latinas or now they probably go to other venues?

[QUOTE=David Yao]Appreciate it man!

I went to Paddi fied a couple of times too but with regular crowd, was not paying attention to the picking up scenes but hopefully would get some luck out there!

What about BOUND? Shall I go there for the Latinas or now they probably go to other venues?[/QUOTE]As Red Hawk pointed out, babyface is one such place, and it has been popular for WGs, maybe more so then Bounds. Bounds is a smaller place and might have better quality but also harder to court. Check out Hooley's as well.

F.

So after a lot of discusiions and reading on this forum I went to Guangzhou. Had some bad experiences as no one could speak fukin english and I couldn't understand a single word from Chinese

For the people here I will say do not go for older posts from this place as those places may have been closed by the pass of time as I went to one place which wasn't there no more.

I went to Victory Suana, Guangzhou Hotel Suana and a couple of more but the best of ma recomendation 1 must goto Guangzhou Hotel Suana only as it was the best one according to all of ma experiences, do not stay at the hotel as it stinks a lot I just stayed a day there and than checkd out. Overall its expensive to have a fuk at suana as you have to pay for the massage and than for a fuck, but yes Guangzhou Hotel Suana does worth it!

Just back from a trip to Guang Zhou, stayed in a couple of different business hotels on the south side of town, industrial areas.

1. Recreational resort - Came full with spa and KTV. Did the spa one night. excellent service all the way through, thoug being a foreigner is a challenge when not speaking the language. Anyway, finally got taken to the "body massage" roo. A beutiful 20 yr old, nice body, a 9 on my scale. Great massage. After the 45 mins were up she asked, with a sheet of paper, if wanted another 45mins or full service. FS was 1000 RMB, another 45mins including BBBJ was 150 RMB. I opted for the latter....

2. International hotel chain in remote industrial area. No Spa nor KTV, however, one night I was approached in the lobby by a woman who asked me if I wanted a lady. I didnt really, but curious said yes. I was shown a small booklet with girls, they sure looked very good! 2000 RMB for a pop seemed a bit expensive to me, and since I really didnt feel like it, I did not go into negotiating. Still, surprised to have the offer made in that particular hotel.

3. Hotel near the Asian games venue. In a crowded area. Went with Chinese coworkers to the KTV. Excellent choice of girls, 300 RMB for company, additional 300 for a quick pop and additional 900 for all nighter. Good value, and beauiful, beautiful girls. No english speakers at all.

Senior members can PM for hotel names if they are in the area.

All the best.

I found a working BBS. It's by TEEMALL. TIYU XILU Metro Exit A. Here is how to get to it...

Exit TIYU XILU Metro Exit A. You will see a 7-11 when you come to the top of the exit. Go Left at the 7-11. Go Left again. Come to the Road... Guangli Rd. Turn Right. Walk for about 200 meters. On the right you will see a BIG opening. Tables may be out for eaters. You know you are at the right place if you see a sign on the right saying "Kangyi Wine Line". Turn Right there. Then Left. Then an fast Right down a very small alley. About 100 meters up on the left you will see it. It's a small open room. PINK LIGHTS. Across from a Real Barbershop. There should be 3 couches. The sign above has Chinese but there is the #2 on that sign.

I was out looking tonight and walking in what I call the Catacombs. It was about 2 am. Sure enough I see this place. All lit up in Pink. This is all new to me so I walked past the place a few times. I say hello to the Oldish lady. She says "ànmó" MASSAGE. I ask how much. 500RMB. I say too much. They go to 400. But I say 300. They say no. I was not in to it. Since I have a regular coming over tomorrow for 400RMB. But maybe another time.

If any of you try this place be sure and let me know.

DBH

[QUOTE=Borregos77]Just back from a trip to Guang Zhou, stayed in a couple of different business hotels on the south side of town, industrial areas.

1. Recreational resort - Came full with spa and KTV. Did the spa one night. excellent service all the way through, thoug being a foreigner is a challenge when not speaking the language. Anyway, finally got taken to the "body massage" roo. A beutiful 20 yr old, nice body, a 9 on my scale. Great massage. After the 45 mins were up she asked, with a sheet of paper, if wanted another 45mins or full service. FS was 1000 RMB, another 45mins including BBBJ was 150 RMB. I opted for the latter....

2. International hotel chain in remote industrial area. No Spa nor KTV, however, one night I was approached in the lobby by a woman who asked me if I wanted a lady. I didnt really, but curious said yes. I was shown a small booklet with girls, they sure looked very good! 2000 RMB for a pop seemed a bit expensive to me, and since I really didnt feel like it, I did not go into negotiating. Still, surprised to have the offer made in that particular hotel.

3. Hotel near the Asian games venue. In a crowded area. Went with Chinese coworkers to the KTV. Excellent choice of girls, 300 RMB for company, additional 300 for a quick pop and additional 900 for all nighter. Good value, and beauiful, beautiful girls. No english speakers at all.

Senior members can PM for hotel names if they are in the area.

All the best.[/QUOTE]After the 45 mins were up she asked, with a sheet of paper, if wanted another 45mins or full service. FS was 1000 RMB, another 45mins including BBBJ was 150 RMB. I opted for the latter.

Where is this place? And What was the total for the BBBJ and massage total?

[QUOTE=Flying Solo]You can get the same service for 298rmb, Ming Hong Hotel Xicun.

Solo[/QUOTE]You mean the one located on the 116 Zhixin Road South?

Cheers,

AF

[QUOTE=Asia Fan]You mean the one located on the 116 Zhixin Road South?

Cheers,

AF[/QUOTE]No, the address for Ming Hong Hotel is 广东省广州市荔湾区西湾路4号

English it is no. 4 Xiwan Lu Xicun Guangzhou

Level 2 for massage centre..

use google maps and type in Guangzhou Ming Hong Hotel, it's down the road from Xicun Metro Station (line 5)

Pm me if you need further assistance.

Cheers,

Solo

[QUOTE=Dbhappiness]I found a working BBS. It's by TEEMALL. TIYU XILU Metro Exit A. Here is how to get to it...

Exit TIYU XILU Metro Exit A. You will see a 7-11 when you come to the top of the exit. Go Left at the 7-11. Go Left again. Come to the Road... Guangli Rd. Turn Right. Walk for about 200 meters. On the right you will see a BIG opening. Tables may be out for eaters. You know you are at the right place if you see a sign on the right saying "Kangyi Wine Line". Turn Right there. Then Left. Then an fast Right down a very small alley. About 100 meters up on the left you will see it. It's a small open room. PINK LIGHTS. Across from a Real Barbershop. There should be 3 couches. The sign above has Chinese but there is the #2 on that sign.

I was out looking tonight and walking in what I call the Catacombs. It was about 2 am. Sure enough I see this place. All lit up in Pink. This is all new to me so I walked past the place a few times. I say hello to the Oldish lady. She says "ànmó" MASSAGE. I ask how much. 500RMB. I say too much. They go to 400. But I say 300. They say no. I was not in to it. Since I have a regular coming over tomorrow for 400RMB. But maybe another time.

If any of you try this place be sure and let me know.

DBH[/QUOTE]I went walking there. Its a really weird place! I found the place, I mean the little street (your indication are pretty good!) so I'm sure I was at the right place. But didn't see the place.

Can you give me more details (after the " Then an fast Right down a very small alley"). I was in this small alley I'm sure that was the good one but could find it

Did you get back there?

[QUOTE=Wanted666]I went walking there. Its a really weird place! I found the place, I mean the little street (your indication are pretty good!) so I'm sure I was at the right place. But didn't see the place.

Can you give me more details (after the " Then an fast Right down a very small alley"). I was in this small alley I'm sure that was the good one but could find it

Did you get back there?[/QUOTE]Well, I don't know how much more details I can give. I will assume that this place is not open during the day time. When did you go? Day or Night?

When you see the "Large Opening" Go right. Then Left. The a quick right. That is the small alleyway. About 100 yards on the left it should be. It is across from a small REAL BBS. At night it should be lit up. That was 5 days or so ago. Who knows if it has been closed down. 2010 Games start in a few days. So? But if that place was to be closed down I am sure it would have been so many Months ago.

Hey people,

I don't know why people are wasting their time in gz when changping is only half an hour train ride each way. And the deals and availability there is so much more and better.

I go there three times a week and still can't get enough. haha.

I will be heading there tomorrow and the day after tomorrow at 11am. Will be picking up coffee at the starbucks at Guangzhou East Station exactly at 11:30 if anyone wants to join in for the ride.

Take care you all,

Andrew

Any place in Guangzhou where I can get viagra or kinda pill. Any document needed for it?

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Singhania]Any place in Guangzhou where I can get viagra or kinda pill. Any document needed for it?

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Cialis is best. Lasts up to 36 hours. One pill 20mg... can be broken into 3 sections and works fine! Not sure if you can get over the counter in GZ. And if it is sold over the counter I am sure it is fake, or some Chinese BS. I ordered mine online and picked it up back in the states. I would be wiling to sell you a "FEW"

Hi all

I will be in GZ from December 6 to 9 and am hoping to get together with a few of the lads to head to Changping for a night or two of debauchery. I don't really like flying solo there. I'm a laowai, but speak fluent Chinese, which can help out in awkward situations.

Please pm me if you're available.

[QUOTE=Dbhappiness]Cialis is best. Lasts up to 36 hours. One pill 20mg... can be broken into 3 sections and works fine! Not sure if you can get over the counter in GZ. And if it is sold over the counter I am sure it is fake, or some Chinese BS. I ordered mine online and picked it up back in the states. I would be wiling to sell you a "FEW"[/QUOTE]

I just walk over to any big chain drug store and buy the 3-pills Cialis pack. I usually break it up into 4 or 5 pieces and each such tiny piece already works wonders.

This is the store I use in China

[url]http://www.dslyy.com/[/url]

and here is one particular store in city center that you can find on google map

[url]http://www.google.com/search?q=%E5%A4%A7%E6%A3%AE%E6%9E%97+%E5%B9%BF%E5%B7%9E+%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%BE%E4%B8%89%E9%A9%AC%E8%B7%AF&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7ADFA_en[/url]

I usually buy from a store near Garden Hotel, on 建设三马路

F.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]I just walk over to any big chain drug store and buy the 3-pills Cialis pack. I usually break it up into 4 or 5 pieces and each such tiny piece already works wonders.

This is the store I use in China

[url]http://www.dslyy.com/[/url]

and here is one particular store in city center that you can find on google map

[url]http://www.google.com/search?q=%E5%A4%A7%E6%A3%AE%E6%9E%97+%E5%B9%BF%E5%B7%9E+%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%BE%E4%B8%89%E9%A9%AC%E8%B7%AF&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7ADFA_en[/url]

I usually buy from a store near Garden Hotel, on 建设三马路

F.[/QUOTE]The stuff works wonders. And no it's not cuz WE can't get it up. I'm speaking for myself I guess. The Cialis just takes the guessing game out of sex. Stuff makes you rock hard! I got 80 pills back in the states. I'm golden for a long time!

Going to Guangzhou for couple of days in few weeks time, just wondering any good places to visit. I really don't understand Chinese at all.

[QUOTE=Going Low]Going to Guangzhou for couple of days in few weeks time, just wondering any good places to visit. I really don't understand Chinese at all.[/QUOTE]Going Low,

Many places. Just RTFF. Activate your PM function and ask some senior members. Due to LE lurking, you may want to buy a subscription and use the PM function.

Please RTFF, many information is already in the forum.

I found a working BBS. It's by TEEMALL. TIYU XILU Metro Exit A. Here is how to get to it.

Exit TIYU XILU Metro Exit A. You will see a 7-11 when you come to the top of the exit. Go Left at the 7-11. Go Left again.come to the Road. Guangli Road.

Was there at 2pm. Closed for the day time. Just note. Directions below. When walking down the small alley on your left will come a WALL. Nothing on the other side of it. When that wall ends the BBS will be on the left. The Awning will have a #2 on it. In the daylight I looked at the back of the BBS. Since there is nothing on the other side of the wall. So that BBS looks small. Not sure if they take you through some other secret passage.

Turn Right. Walk for about 200 meters. On the right you will see a BIG opening. Tables may be out for eaters. You know you are at the right place if you see a sign on the right saying "Kangyi Wine Line". Turn Right there. Then Left. Then an fast Right down a very small alley. About 100 meters up on the left you will see it. It's a small open room. PINK LIGHTS. Across from a Real Barbershop. There should be 3 couches. The sign above has Chinese but there is the #2 on that sign.

I was out looking tonight and walking in what I call the Catacombs. It was about 2 am. Sure enough I see this place. All lit up in Pink. This is all new to me so I walked past the place a few times. I say Hello, to the Oldish lady. She says "ànmó" Massage. I ask how much. 500RMB. I say too much. They go to 400. But I say 300. They say no. I was not in to it. Since I have a regular coming over tomorrow for 400RMB. But maybe another time.

If any of you try this place be sure and let me know.

[QUOTE=Flying Solo]No, the address for Ming Hong Hotel is 广东省广州市荔湾区西湾路4号

English it is no. 4 Xiwan Lu Xicun Guangzhou

Level 2 for massage centre..

use google maps and type in Guangzhou Ming Hong Hotel, it's down the road from Xicun Metro Station (line 5)

Pm me if you need further assistance.

Cheers,

Solo[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot Flying. I've noticed that.

It is quite far from the hotel I usually stay but I'm gonna try when I'll be in GZ next time.

AF

take a cab to guangzhou east station (huoche dong zhan)
turn left inside the station... high speed train towards shenzhen
buy ticket to 'dongguan east' (there is an english speaking ticket window - first class is 60rmb)
25 minutes to changping station (dongguan east)
call or pm bsd (dongguan thread)
go crazy

[QUOTE=Bumboy]Hi all

I will be in GZ from December 6 to 9 and am hoping to get together with a few of the lads to head to Changping for a night or two of debauchery. I don't really like flying solo there. I'm a laowai, but speak fluent Chinese, which can help out in awkward situations.

Please pm me if you're available.[/QUOTE]Hi Bumboy,

I just signed up for an account but I can't PM you until my PM ability is activated in about 24 hours. I'll PM you then. Regardless, I'm in Guangzhou until the 9th and would like to make a short half day or full day trip out to Changping w/ you for the debauchery!

Long story short, I'm 21 and have been living in Taishan/Taicheng(medium size city 2 hrs drive from Guangzhou) for the past 2 months. It was my family's idea to come back here for a 10 month vacation, not mine and I was drag here. Haven't ML in a good while because my GF is at home, money is very limited and saunas, KTV's etc is kinder costly. Did a little bit of walking around and seen some hotties going in some deserted alleys and streets, are these SW's? I can speak a little Taishanese, is it safe to go and ask these girls if they are working or ask some of the guys hanging around these deserted places?

Really appreciated if somebody can help a bro out, I only monger 3 time in my life but that is not in China and I think things are different around here.

Thanks in advance.

I see so many hooched out honeys on the street.

I can't help to think who's "working"

Any way to tell?

Like do they walk a certain area?

Anyone ever approach a girl on the street?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Redline5]I see so many hooched out honeys on the street.

I can't help to think who's "working"

Any way to tell?

Like do they walk a certain area?

Anyone ever approach a girl on the street?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Which street? what time of the day? Usually, SW will make eye contact, if no such contact, forget about it.

F.

[QUOTE=Wukickurass]Long story short, I'm 21 and have been living in Taishan/Taicheng(medium size city 2 hrs drive from Guangzhou) for the past 2 months. It was my family's idea to come back here for a 10 month vacation, not mine and I was drag here. Haven't ML in a good while because my GF is at home, money is very limited and saunas, KTV's etc is kinder costly. Did a little bit of walking around and seen some hotties going in some deserted alleys and streets, are these SW's? I can speak a little Taishanese, is it safe to go and ask these girls if they are working or ask some of the guys hanging around these deserted places?

Really appreciated if somebody can help a bro out, I only monger 3 time in my life but that is not in China and I think things are different around here.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]You will find more information in another thread called "Southern China other Areas". You can also do a search for information.

I have not been to Taishan for over 1 year and things change fast. I would suggest using a motorcycle taxi to show you around. Best time is after 9pm but it is also more dangerous at night. On the hand, Taishan is far more safer than Shenzhen or Guangzhou. I also don't recall there was any specific location for SW in Taishan. I would suggest going to BBS and forget about SW because it is a little more safer. If there are any problems you know where to find the mommie and the girl. For working girls, the majority only speak Mandarin but you should understand a little Mandarin and they a little Cantonese.

[quote=meiguoguizi]take a cab to guangzhou east station (huoche dong zhan)

turn left inside the station. high speed train towards shenzhen

buy ticket to 'dongguan east' (there is an english speaking ticket window. first class is 60rmb)

25 minutes to changping station (dongguan east)

call or pm bsd (dongguan thread)

go crazy[/quote]i second that. guangzhou has nothing worth your time or money. go to cp and call up bsd. you're guaranteed to have the time of your life!

[QUOTE=Keirin]I second that. Guangzhou has nothing worth your time or money. Go to CP and call up BSD. You're guaranteed to have the time of your life![/QUOTE]Sure if you don't have night life in GZ, and can stay in hotel in CP, sure go right ahead.

I will be arriving in a couple of days to GZ and I will see if can still combine business with pleasure, when your hotel is in GZ proper.

F.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]Sure if you don't have night life in GZ, and can stay in hotel in CP, sure go right ahead.

I will be arriving in a couple of days to GZ and I will see if can still combine business with pleasure, when your hotel is in GZ proper.

F.[/QUOTE]Fillmore

There are alot of night life in Guangzhou if you know where to go, this is a big city if you don't know the area well and it is much more expensive than CP, I also like go to CP for action after I do my business in Guangzhou but sometime after a long day you don't want to get on a train.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Dbhappiness]I found a working BBS. It's by TEEMALL. TIYU XILU Metro Exit A. Here is how to get to it.

Exit TIYU XILU Metro Exit A. You will see a 7-11 when you come to the top of the exit. Go Left at the 7-11. Go Left again. Come to the Road... Guangli Rd. Turn Right. Walk for about 200 meters. On the right you will see a BIG opening. Tables may be out for eaters. You know you are at the right place if you see a sign on the right saying "Kangyi Wine Line". Turn Right there. Then Left. Then an fast Right down a very small alley. About 100 meters up on the left you will see it. It's a small open room. PINK LIGHTS. Across from a Real Barbershop. There should be 3 couches. The sign above has Chinese but there is the #2 on that sign.

I was out looking tonight and walking in what I call the Catacombs. It was about 2 am. Sure enough I see this place. All lit up in Pink. This is all new to me so I walked past the place a few times. I say hello to the Oldish lady. She says "ànmó" MASSAGE. I ask how much. 500RMB. I say too much. They go to 400. But I say 300. They say no. I was not in to it. Since I have a regular coming over tomorrow for 400RMB. But maybe another time.

If any of you try this place be sure and let me know.

DBH[/QUOTE]Good directions.

Was able to find it.

Walked by at midnight and the gates were closed.

Did encounter some girls in an alley way.

(was about 3 alley ways over, alley way was parrellel to the one

In the directions).

While place is really weird like some underground sewer maze.

One of the girls asked about a "massage".

For $200.

No service, just straight fuck.

No BJ, no nothing.

Place she took me to was super ghetto, real slum.

Felt bad for her; still have her a tip.

Can't recommend the place, but if you need a fix.

It's there.

Fangcun bbs area in Liwan dist near the Fanfcun metro station about 10 min walk, there are SW after midnight most girl are young and quality is average at best 150 rmb for st service is bad some girl offer CBJ only, have not find any good bbs actions since the Ramada area close down few yr ago.

Fast Eddie 48

[url]http://maps.google.com.hk/maps?um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=Tianyi+Health+Center+guangzhou&fb=1&gl=hk&hq=Tianyi+Health+Center&hnear=Guangzhou,+Guangdong,+China&cid=0,0,5225244148987113028&ei=GuD6TLniIc7irAf39rmgCA&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQnwIwAA[/url]

Tianyi Health Center

Been there a few times. ¥108/massage and HJ.... ¥288/FS/no massage.

It's a small SAUNA. Chairs. TV. Drinks. Showers. Since 4 months ago and the the ASIAN games they stopped the HJ and FS. But maybe they have resumed.

Any Update? I don't speak MUCH CHINESE so I can't ask if they are back in full swing. Maybe one of the boys on here can swing by and see what's up?

DB

[QUOTE=Fillmore St]I just walk over to any big chain drug store and buy the 3-pills Cialis pack. I usually break it up into 4 or 5 pieces and each such tiny piece already works wonders.

F.[/QUOTE]Do you have to ask for it or is it on the shelves in the drug store?

I can't speak chinese so if I have to ask for it I will have to resort to embarrassing hand gestures (I would rather not do in the store)

[QUOTE=Mecha Pilot]Do you have to ask for it or is it on the shelves in the drug store?

I can't speak chinese so if I have to ask for it I will have to resort to embarrassing hand gestures (I would rather not do in the store)[/QUOTE]

On the shelves, but hard to find, you need to ask for it.

A. print a print out of the box, you can google for an image

B. Ask to show you that 100yuan per pill thing, and they should bring you to the right counter.

I have just used up my 1 pill last night, after making use of it on 4 girls over the week, it was just wonderful. 1/3 of a pill last about 30 hours.

F.

Was in Guangzhou last week and had some time on hang so went hunting around Garden. Walked around and saw some nice young SW out there but seems like they are always on the run. Finally found one across the street from Garden and took her back to Presidents Hotel. Had her call a friend to have a 3some. 10 mins later, her friend arrived and settled with 400+100 for the cab. Had a good time.

There are SW there. Just got to look for them and give eye contact. They'll come over.

Good luck everyone.

[QUOTE=Ningbodude; 1104304]Was in Guangzhou last week and had some time on hang so went hunting around Garden. Walked around and saw some nice young SW out there but seems like they are always on the run. Finally found one across the street from Garden and took her back to Presidents Hotel. Had her call a friend to have a 3some. 10 mins later, her friend arrived and settled with 400+100 for the cab. Had a good time.

There are SW there. Just got to look for them and give eye contact. They'll come over.

Good luck everyone. [/QUOTE]Good report, man. I can add that Gipsy King is back. You can find doable there. There is one Hui (Islamic) hottie who had a firm price of 1500. She speaks no English nor Chinese so communication is problematic. I did not do her because I was already occupied much of the time when I was there, but maybe next trip I will.

The biggest downer in Guangzhou is the 2am curfew. All the bars must clear out by then. This pretty much shuts down KAMA, and most places for the real business. Hopefully this is just one of those asian game headaches and will go away soon, if not already.

Fillmore

[QUOTE=Wukickurass; 1097478]Long story short, I'm 21 and have been living in Taishan / Taicheng (medium size city 2 hrs drive from Guangzhou) for the past 2 months. It was my family's idea to come back here for a 10 month vacation, not mine and I was drag here. Haven't ML in a good while because my GF is at home, money is very limited and saunas, KTV's etc is kinder costly. Did a little bit of walking around and seen some hotties going in some deserted alleys and streets, are these SW's? I can speak a little Taishanese, is it safe to go and ask these girls if they are working or ask some of the guys hanging around these deserted places?

Really appreciated if somebody can help a bro out, I only monger 3 time in my life but that is not in China and I think things are different around here.

Thanks in advance. [/QUOTE]If you are 21 and cannot get laid for free in China then there is something seriously wrong with you.

I am in my 50s and can get a new freebie every night (at least 20 years younger than me). Just go out and meet people.

F,

You are not taking about Viagra genaric 1/3 tablet lasting 30 hours and ss this a 100 mg plus generaic pill other than Viagra?

No side effects!

Just a clarification.

S7

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1100556]On the shelves, but hard to find, you need to ask for it.

A. Print a print out of the box, you can google for an image.

B. Ask to show you that 100yuan per pill thing, and they should bring you to the right counter.

I have just used up my 1 pill last night, after making use of it on 4 girls over the week, it was just wonderful. 1/3 of a pill last about 30 hours.

F[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Loveasiangirls; 1104891]If you are 21 and cannot get laid for free in China then there is something seriously wrong with you.

I am in my 50s and can get a new freebie every night (at least 20 years younger than me). Just go out and meet people.[/QUOTE]LOL maybe there is something wrong with me, or I'm just not familiar with the sex scene over here, I live in Guangdong Taishan and a friend told me that if I want to get laid fast no strings attched, the best option is to $$$ but other than that all the girls here is into dating and attachment etc before finally some action and that is what I want to avoid because I have a GF back home and plus I don't want any drama.

I don't know if my friend is just talking shit, but so far I spoken to a few girls and I notice that they are kinda shy and reserved, I recall on hitting on this chick awhile back, just some light convo but when I asked her what is her name she giggled and waved bye. There was another time where I asked a girl what is her age and she say she cannot tell me. Or maybe I'm just too damn ugly LOL. I don't know but I observed here that young hot chicks here are mostly gold diggers who are into big mid age business men or white men. Maybe I'm wrong too about that.

Thanks anyways though. Any tips on where to go to pick up some freebies? BTW I'm Chinese

[QUOTE=Loveasiangirls; 1104891].

I am in my 50s and can get a new freebie every night (at least 20 years younger than me). Just go out and meet people. [/QUOTE]May I ask if you are white, or clearly European / American? I noticed Chinese women really prefer foreigners, especially whites.

F.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1104971]May I ask if you are white, or clearly European / American? I noticed Chinese women really prefer foreigners, especially whites.

F. [/QUOTE]Yes it seems these hot fucks prefer that because I guess its something different and probably think that foreigners have money. They are all into mid age successful business men too, money is the nationally chick magnet here it seems.

I am full Chinese born in Taishan itself but migrated somewhere else when I was 7, so I'm a newbie here when I came back, I have the vocabulary of a 9 year old, I'm taller and more well-built that most local Chinese. When I'm buying stuff and I for example I recall I pulled out my wallet with a few US dollars the female shopkeeper showed a significant interest in me or maybe I just sound dumb in what I wanted in the shop cause I have to point sometimes LOL. BTW I currently live in a very expensive building complex and will be able to drive a 350k SUV when I get my permit in January. With all that said I would conclude that when I get the permit, part that expensive SUV outside a bar, go inside the bar flash my US dollars, catch the gold diggers attention, carry her to hotel and fuck her an leave? I guess? You tell me, can it be that simple? Lmao and I need some english speaking friends bad LOL.

[QUOTE=Sound7; 1104928]F,

You are not taking about Viagra genaric 1/3 tablet lasting 30 hours and ss this a 100 mg plus generaic pill other than Viagra?

No side effects!

Just a clarification.

S7[/QUOTE]Here:

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Cialis. 20mg, so called Weekend Pill as it lasts longer then viagra. Recommendation is 10mg but I found 7mg works best with no side effects. I am in my 50s so if you are younger, then take even less.

F.

Short report.

Stayed in Asia Hotel. Avarage hotel, very bad spa. I had been many times to this spa and it was beautiful. This time it was awfull. Low quality girls, straight to action. Not as I expected although I enjoyed it, no lies. I was expecting a good masage and a happy ending. This time no masage at all and direct handjob. It was a little strange that the girl lied besisde me and we had some different actions.

Across the street there is a bar and you can pick up girls from there. It seems a normal bar but you can grab a girl from there. The quality is low by the way.

[QUOTE=Kalafatidis; 1106442]Short report.

Stayed in Asia Hotel. Avarage hotel, very bad spa. I had been many times to this spa and it was beautiful. This time it was awfull. Low quality girls, straight to action. Not as I expected although I enjoyed it, no lies. I was expecting a good masage and a happy ending. This time no masage at all and direct handjob. It was a little strange that the girl lied besisde me and we had some different actions.

Across the street there is a bar and you can pick up girls from there. It seems a normal bar but you can grab a girl from there. The quality is low by the way. [/QUOTE]

Thanks for reporting.
They have a very good KTV, maybe you should try that.

Across the street towards the east right? There are a few bars, which one?

F.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1104971]May I ask if you are white, or clearly European / American? I noticed Chinese women really prefer foreigners, especially whites.

F. [/QUOTE]Yes I am white. Once they tried a white guy in bed they prefer that. Sometimes it is curiosity.
If not for sex they prefer Chinese. Lots of rich Chinese guys around or overseas Chinese.

Anybody been to Kama recently?

Is is still happening or dead?

[QUOTE=AsianChaos; 1106721]Anybody been to Kama recently?

Is is still happening or dead? [/QUOTE]As long as the 2AM curfew is in place, KAMA will be dead. Right now, places like Gypsy King are better. KAMA had been too big a target and will take sometime to recover.

F.

[QUOTE=Loveasiangirls; 1106639]Yes I am white. Once they tried a white guy in bed they prefer that. Sometimes it is curiosity.

If not for sex they prefer Chinese. Lots of rich Chinese guys around or overseas Chinese.[/QUOTE]To Loveasiangirls.

I always tell all the Chinese girl once they try Anal they will like it and demand it next time, I have not got anyone to go for that yet, only girl I got anal is a European girl in Macau a few yr back and she ask for it.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1106724]As long as the 2AM curfew is in place, KAMA will be dead. Right now, places like Gypsy King are better. KAMA had been too big a target and will take sometime to recover.

F. [/QUOTE]I have never been to Gypsy King before. Has the Kama talent moved there?

I mean the Slavic women.

In Hong Kong, lots of girls offer anal. There is one in particular, an older woman, from Guang Dong, who actually does like it better than vaginal sex.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1106778]To Loveasiangirls.

I always tell all the Chinese girl once they try Anal they will like it and demand it next time, I have not got anyone to go for that yet, only girl I got anal is a European girl in Macau a few yr back and she ask for it.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=South Gate;1107146]In Hong Kong, lots of girls offer anal. There is one in particular, an older woman, from Guang Dong, who actually does like it better than vaginal sex.[/QUOTE]Why would I want to anal fu#k an older woman in Guangzhou when it is available at home for much less. If she was younger I may reconsider.

Not sure where your home is Bnlee.

In HK, anal costs as little as 300 HKD or less than 50 USD. In my home which is California, anal costs at least three times that price.

In mainland China, I have found it hard to find anal sex. I read with interest the reports of John Dao who has photographically documented his anal conquests in Vietnam. Not sure if he has a special charm or if the Viet girls are more open to this activity.

[QUOTE=Bnlee2;1107174]Why would I want to anal fu#k an older woman in Guangzhou when it is available at home for much less. If she was younger I may reconsider.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wukickurass; 1105131]Yes it seems these hot fucks prefer that because I guess its something different and probably think that foreigners have money. They are all into mid age successful business men too, money is the nationally chick magnet here it seems.

I am full Chinese born in Taishan itself but migrated somewhere else when I was 7, so I'm a newbie here when I came back, I have the vocabulary of a 9 year old, I'm taller and more well-built that most local Chinese. When I'm buying stuff and I for example I recall I pulled out my wallet with a few US dollars the female shopkeeper showed a significant interest in me or maybe I just sound dumb in what I wanted in the shop cause I have to point sometimes LOL. BTW I currently live in a very expensive building complex and will be able to drive a 350k SUV when I get my permit in January. With all that said I would conclude that when I get the permit, part that expensive SUV outside a bar, go inside the bar flash my US dollars, catch the gold diggers attention, carry her to hotel and fuck her an leave? I guess? You tell me, can it be that simple? Lmao and I need some english speaking friends bad LOL. [/QUOTE]It is really easy to get girls in China. I was in guangzhou, and shenzhen, in every alley way, there are mama san who bring me to their homes, and there are 6 to 10 good looking young 18 to 22 year old girls to have sex for 100 RMB, which is 12 dollars US. It is sooooo easy to meet girls in China, and make them your girlfirends too.

You are killing me. It ain't america you know. Heck you even speak the language.

[QUOTE=Vincelee76; 1107218]It is really easy to get girls in China. I was in guangzhou, and shenzhen, in every alley way, there are mama san who bring me to their homes, and there are 6 to 10 good looking young 18 to 22 year old girls to have sex for 100 RMB, which is 12 dollars US. It is sooooo easy to meet girls in China, and make them your girlfirends too.

You are killing me. It ain't america you know. Heck you even speak the language. [/QUOTE]There are plenty of ways in Shenzhen, but Guangzhou? You are the king, man.

Everyone had such a hard time finding any WG under the age of 30 in Guangzhou and you can easily find 18-22 and for only 100? I will pay 1500 for a thin and good looking 21 old in Guangzhou, if I know where to find her, so please share some info, brother.

Fillmore

YES, WAS IN GUANGZHOU LAST WEEK, ON CHRISTMAS EVE & AS USUAL HEADED TO THE HAPPENING JOINT K*M* NIGHT CLUB. IT WAS ROCKING AT 01:30 A. M. , WITH LOADS OF CIS, COLUMBIAN, BRAZILIAN N CHINESE BABES. ALL PREVIOUS POSTS ABOUT THIS PLACE SHUT IS ABSOLUTELY BOGUS. IT IS BY FAR THE BEST IN Guangzhou, WITH THE BEST VARIETY ON DISPLAY. DID GET LUCKY WITH 2 HOT CHICKS, CLAIMED TO BE FROM UZBEK, HAD A FEW DRINKS & LATER HEADED TO THEIR APT FOR A NICE FUN SESSION. ALL ON THE HOUSE. SO K*A STILL ROCKS, . CHEERS

[QUOTE=Karan J;1107559]YES, WAS IN GUANGZHOU LAST WEEK, ON CHRISTMAS EVE & AS USUAL HEADED TO THE HAPPENING JOINT K*M* NIGHT CLUB. IT WAS ROCKING AT 01:30 A. M. , WITH LOADS OF CIS, COLUMBIAN, BRAZILIAN N CHINESE BABES. ALL PREVIOUS POSTS ABOUT THIS PLACE SHUT IS ABSOLUTELY BOGUS. IT IS BY FAR THE BEST IN Guangzhou, WITH THE BEST VARIETY ON DISPLAY. DID GET LUCKY WITH 2 HOT CHICKS, CLAIMED TO BE FROM UZBEK, HAD A FEW DRINKS & LATER HEADED TO THEIR APT FOR A NICE FUN SESSION. ALL ON THE HOUSE. SO K*A STILL ROCKS, . CHEERS[/QUOTE]Good to know KM is back! I guess the Asia Games were all over.

F.

[QUOTE=Bnlee2;1107174]Why would I want to anal fu#k an older woman in Guangzhou when it is available at home for much less. If she was younger I may reconsider.[/QUOTE]Bnlee,

Maybe she is paying southgate to do her back door, I still cannot see a Chinese woman like anal that much but young one less experience one will not try it.

Fast Eddie 48

97 % of Chinese women don't accept anal sex. A few do. They are usually older and more experienced. Two in particular come to mind. One in fact was a lady who did pay for my round trips to Shen Zhen and proclaimed that she was madly in love with me and enjoyed everything I did with her in bed including anal. She is amazingly rich and I tried to get her to make large donation to charity in order for me to have sex with her including anal. She has not made the donations yet but I am still trying to convince her. She continues to offer to pay for my airfares. The other was a hooker I did in HK several times. She really got off from my filling her rectum with my cock. She squealed and screamed and her pussy dripped like a fountain when she sat on me and buried my cock in her rectum. I am posting photos on the photo gallery of both of these ladies.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1108713]Bnlee,

Maybe she is paying southgate to do her back door, I still cannot see a Chinese woman like anal that much but young one less experience one will not try it.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Karan J;1107559]YES, WAS IN GUANGZHOU LAST WEEK, ON CHRISTMAS EVE & AS USUAL HEADED TO THE HAPPENING JOINT K*M* NIGHT CLUB. IT WAS ROCKING AT 01:30 A. M. , WITH LOADS OF CIS, COLUMBIAN, BRAZILIAN N CHINESE BABES. ALL PREVIOUS POSTS ABOUT THIS PLACE SHUT IS ABSOLUTELY BOGUS. IT IS BY FAR THE BEST IN Guangzhou, WITH THE BEST VARIETY ON DISPLAY. DID GET LUCKY WITH 2 HOT CHICKS, CLAIMED TO BE FROM UZBEK, HAD A FEW DRINKS & LATER HEADED TO THEIR APT FOR A NICE FUN SESSION. ALL ON THE HOUSE. SO K*A STILL ROCKS, . CHEERS[/QUOTE]Good God Man!

Quit shouting!

You're hurting my ears.

And nice to know that "All previous posts about this place shut is absolutely bogus."

Absolutely bogus huh?

SEAJ

Came back to Guangzhou after many years and went to the club called Duo for the first time. It was a Tuesday night it seemed an alright clubs. Saw a few colombians on the right corner but nothing to write about. However there were a lot of very hot looking russians there. I could not figure out if they were working or not. They seemed like models all dressed very well and could not put the finger on the situation as they were mostly with model looking men. But I somehow was getting the vibe that maybe some not all were looking for work. I could be wrong. Anybody a regular to this place might be able to give a bit of more sight.

[QUOTE=AsianChaos;1109303]Came back to Guangzhou after many years and went to the club called Duo for the first time. It was a Tuesday night it seemed an alright clubs. Saw a few colombians on the right corner but nothing to write about. However there were a lot of very hot looking russians there. I could not figure out if they were working or not. They seemed like models all dressed very well and could not put the finger on the situation as they were mostly with model looking men. But I somehow was getting the vibe that maybe some not all were looking for work. I could be wrong. Anybody a regular to this place might be able to give a bit of more sight.[/QUOTE]I go to Duo a lot but never seen WG. Yes, lots of tall white girls, but same as in Bounds. I also seem many of them in my building in TianHe, so I think they are really models. Most ads and billboards feature whites in China, so it is easy for models, or want to be, to find work in Guangzhou.

F.

Hi all! Had a long break on forum. My experience in Guangzhou clubs is not very reach, usually I visited TANG and was very staisfied. KAMA is better or bigger? Can someone tell me? Or maybe some other club where I can meet WG's? I prefer Chinese gals if I'm in China, eventually latinas. Europeand I have at home.

[QUOTE=Criss Thor;1112394]Hi all! Had a long break on forum. My experience in Guangzhou clubs is not very reach, usually I visited TANG and was very staisfied. KAMA is better or bigger? Can someone tell me? Or maybe some other club where I can meet WG's? I prefer Chinese gals if I'm in China, eventually latinas. Europeand I have at home.[/QUOTE]Come on guys! We need some help with clubs in Guanghzou. Last year we discover CP with BSD but now we want more know about Guanghzou to discover that fun isn't only in CP.

[QUOTE=Jacher;1117269]Come on guys! We need some help with clubs in Guanghzou. Last year we discover CP with BSD but now we want more know about Guanghzou to discover that fun isn't only in CP.[/QUOTE]I have posted numerious times about clubs in Guangzhou, you didn't see it? Basically Tang is gone, KAMA is back but quality is poor, Gypsy King is ok. More clubs along the river like Baby Face and Bounds have good quality but much harder to score.
Basically many bars and clubs have them but usually late 30s and fat.

Guangzhou cannot compare with Shanghai and Beijing in terms of WG in clubs because the lack of BSD (not the CP guy). Guangzhou price for P4P is too low, so the better looking girls just go to HongKong for the higher price, and as a result, hard to run into a young and pretty WG in Guangzhou bars and clubs.

When I come back to GZ, I go through HK and other there, I see some familiar faces, girls I had done/seen in GZ some time ago, they all told me the same story.

Fillmore

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1117286]I have posted numerious times about clubs in Guangzhou, you didn't see it? Basically Tang is gone, KAMA is back but quality is poor, Gypsy King is ok. More clubs along the river like Baby Face and Bounds have good quality but much harder to score.

Basically many bars and clubs have them but usually late 30s and fat.

Guangzhou cannot compare with Shanghai and Beijing in terms of WG in clubs because the lack of BSD (not the CP guy). Guangzhou price for P4P is too low, so the better looking girls just go to HongKong for the higher price, and as a result, hard to run into a young and pretty WG in Guangzhou bars and clubs.

When I come back to Guangzhou, I go through HK and other there, I see some familiar faces, girls I had done / seen in Guangzhou some time ago, they all told me the same story.

Fillmore[/QUOTE]Fillmore thank you for an update. Yes I read some info about clubs from you but we will travel to Guangzhou in end of March and we want some fresh info. Like you wrote that TANG is gone.. What you mean is closed?

[QUOTE=Jacher;1117637]Fillmore thank you for an update. Yes I read some info about clubs from you but we will travel to Guangzhou in end of March and we want some fresh info. Like you wrote that TANG is gone.. What you mean is closed?[/QUOTE]Tang was my faorite, but it is no longer there, CLOSED, GONE, DONE, VANISHED.

End of March? That is good as I am sure I will write an update when I visit in later part of Feb. I may choose to go to the clubs in CP though, and again, I will definitely write about it.

Fillmore.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1117853]Tang was my faorite, but it is no longer there, CLOSED, GONE, DONE, VANISHED.

End of March? That is good as I am sure I will write an update when I visit in later part of Feb. I may choose to go to the clubs in CP though, and again, I will definitely write about it.

Fillmore. [/QUOTE]Thanks in advance. But info about TANG is devastating my frinds will cry like babies. But its life we look for other clubs but its seems to me that TANG was special one and it will be hard to find replacment.

Hi Guys,

It's been a while, but finally back in my second home Guangzhou. GF has gone to her hometown for CNY, so guys if you're looking for a drinking buddy or some local knowledge drop me a PM.

Cheers.

Solo

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1117853]Tang was my faorite, but it is no longer there, CLOSED, GONE, DONE, VANISHED.

End of March? That is good as I am sure I will write an update when I visit in later part of Feb. I may choose to go to the clubs in CP though, and again, I will definitely write about it.

Fillmore. [/QUOTE]Oh no. That news is awful. TANG was a place which always was there, my favourite in Guangzhou. And now you say that is closed. I'm not sure if I can used to new clubs. Do you know why it's closed? It's strange, that place was rather strong economically, too strong to close it.

I'm really depressed.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1117853]Tang was my faorite, but it is no longer there, CLOSED, GONE, DONE, VANISHED.

End of March? That is good as I am sure I will write an update when I visit in later part of Feb. I may choose to go to the clubs in CP though, and again, I will definitely write about it.

Fillmore. [/QUOTE]Fillmore do you know where babes from TANG are going now when TANG is closed?

I never found any club better than KAMA in Guangzhou.

[QUOTE=Jacher;1118338]Fillmore do you know where babes from TANG are going now when TANG is closed?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PrinceMV2;1118438]I never found any club better than KAMA in Guangzhou.[/QUOTE]Can you tell more about KAMA? I have been several times to Shanghai, and loves places like Judys and Manhattan, some places like these in Guangzhou?

Does anybodu know how the prices are in Guangzhou compared to Shanghai?

Which nationalities do you find in the south?

[QUOTE=PrinceMV2;1118438]I never found any club better than KAMA in Guangzhou.[/QUOTE]KAMA. We have been 4 times in China (in Guanghzou) and always visiting TANG, now when is gone please let us now more about KAMA club it is similar to TANG?

My apologies for not posting as frequently on this forum but I've not had much to report. Freebies have been occupying most of my time lately. I had a good 2010 in this regard.

That said, I did some market search in the Panyu / Shiqiao area recently. The action has not picked up much post Asian Games. Although the KTVs and a couple of saunas are still operating, the BBS and SW scene is still pretty dismal. They reconstructed my favorite "River Road" and the SWs have nowhere to hide. On a recent run through all the old SW strips, not one SW could be found at 9:00PM. If anyone knows, where and when the SWs have gone, please let me know.

Even at my regular, die-hard BBS, I was refused service by 2 girls. I guess I overdid myself the last time out and rumor spread that I was too big and too much of a stud. LOL. At another BBS, one borderline girl asked for 200 RMB FS, price is 100RMB for locals, and wanted it upfront. Pass. These are the only 2 BBS I could find open. If anyone knows of other BBS, please let me know.

At one sauna, only porkchops were available for FS at 600 RMB. That said, I've tried the 263RMB boob HJ service there and the girls were OK, Standard HJ service with sauna is 183RMB. Not bad if you are looking for a relaxing few hours. The facilites are acceptabe and they have free food and throw in a manicure, pedicure, ear job, etc. Complimentary.

Finally, I have a few active phone numbers of mamasans for 250RMB ST with a room. Most of the girls are doable. No GFE but good for a quick fix.

Just my POV.

OAH

Hi Guys, Noticed plenty of SW's on Jianshe Liu Malu opposite Duo nightclub near the bus stop two nights ago, some very young and hot, there was 2 working together must only be in their early to mid 20's was very tempted but I'm too well known around here so have to be extremely careful. Living with 2 Gypsy bar girls and my GF news spreads fast can not even look too long tat the dancing girls without talk. Anyway, guys I'm happy with my current situation so here just to help out. But planning a trip to Changping soon if anyone interested. Drop a PM.

Cheers.

Solo

Fellow Mongers. I know that Guangzhou thread here on forum quite well. Also Fillmore me and Jacher read all old and previous posts and reports, but still I got the feeling that situation isn't as clear as everybody wants. I know that Guangzhou is not CP and good sauna, KTV or club is hard to find. But in so big city it must be some place good to recommend, am I right?

Due to the fact, that I will visit Guangzhou end of March I try to have some fresh and actual info.

I know that Tang is finished (what a pity. , some of you says that KAMA is good. What else? And maybe someone can write few words about situation in Kama.

And : sauna, there is at least one or 2, which is worth to visit? If any, where and what price?

Same as KTV, where to go in Guangzhou to spend good time in KTV?

Anyone from you who lives in Guangzhou should know something about this.

And please don't tell that CP is better. For sure it is, but we need to spend few days in Guangzhou and I hope that we can find some acceptable sauna or KTV also in Guangzhou.

I'll be gratefull for any good info.

[QUOTE=Criss Thor; 1119382]Fellow Mongers. I know that Guangzhou thread here on forum quite well. Also Fillmore me and Jacher read all old and previous posts and reports, but still I got the feeling that situation isn't as clear as everybody wants. I know that Guangzhou is not CP and good sauna, KTV or club is hard to find. But in so big city it must be some place good to recommend, am I right?

Due to the fact, that I will visit Guangzhou end of March I try to have some fresh and actual info.

I know that Tang is finished (what a pity. , some of you says that KAMA is good. What else? And maybe someone can write few words about situation in Kama.

And : sauna, there is at least one or 2, which is worth to visit? If any, where and what price?

Same as KTV, where to go in Guangzhou to spend good time in KTV?

Anyone from you who lives in Guangzhou should know something about this.

And please don't tell that CP is better. For sure it is, but we need to spend few days in Guangzhou and I hope that we can find some acceptable sauna or KTV also in Guangzhou.

I'll be gratefull for any good info. [/QUOTE]I totally agree. In addition. Any good (min 4 stars) hotels with a central location? I am well known in Shanghai but new to this city. HELP!

Is this place DUO nice? Central location? No new TANG?

Could some pl recomand some GF hotels in the range of Us100-125 which is close to the action. Walking distance?

[QUOTE=Jean You; 1119543]I totally agree. In addition. Any good (min 4 stars) hotels with a central location? I am well known in Shanghai but new to this city. HELP!

Is this place DUO nice? Central location? No new TANG? [/QUOTE]

Hi Friends,

I am visiting Guangzhou for Canton fair and would appreciate any help in suggesting budget hotel with some action allowed by them.

[QUOTE=Criss Thor; 1119382]Fellow Mongers. I know that Guangzhou thread here on forum quite well. Also Fillmore me and Jacher read all old and previous posts and reports, but still I got the feeling that situation isn't as clear as everybody wants. I know that Guangzhou is not CP and good sauna, KTV or club is hard to find. But in so big city it must be some place good to recommend, am I right?

I'll be gratefull for any good info. [/QUOTE]1) Cab to East train station (Huo che dong zhan)

2) Shenzhen CRH train to Dongguan East 25 minutes 60rmb. 1st class seat.

3) PM BSD.

4) Inexpensive Hotel 300rmb.

5) Inexpensive Young Beautiful Women 200 bbs 500/800 KTV


Or spend more time and more money with some old KAMA bimbo.

[QUOTE=Meiguoguizi; 1123057]1) Cab to East train station (Huo che dong zhan)

2) Shenzhen CRH train to Dongguan East 25 minutes 60rmb. 1st class seat.

3) PM BSD.

4) Inexpensive Hotel 300rmb.

5) Inexpensive Young Beautiful Women 200 bbs 500/800 KTV.

Or spend more time and more money with some old KAMA bimbo. [/QUOTE]Meiguoguizi, your answer is very clear. The only problem is that I done all that points allready. But I (with some friends) need to spend 4 days in CP (that's why I did allready what you suggested) and AFTER that spend 4 days in Guangzhou without taking every day the train to CP from Guangzhou. So let's say, that funny part of our trip is first part. 4 days in CP, but what about the second part in Guangzhou? Really nothing to do? Just normal body and foot massage? : Maybe some hanky panky massage if not Full service?

[QUOTE=Criss Thor;1123491]Meiguoguizi, your answer is very clear. The only problem is that I done all that points allready. But I (with some friends) need to spend 4 days in CP (that's why I did allready what you suggested) and AFTER that spend 4 days in Guangzhou without taking every day the train to CP from Guangzhou. So let's say, that funny part of our trip is first part. 4 days in CP, but what about the second part in Guangzhou? Really nothing to do? Just normal body and foot massage? : Maybe some hanky panky massage if not Full service?[/QUOTE]Do not be worry Chriss. Guangzhou has nothing to campare with CP but is still in the businnes. Most of the 3 stars business hotels has Massage with HE at least. Ming Hong Hotel, Guangzhou Hotel, Ocean Hotel (expensive) and much more others has saunas with FS. Take a walk around the Garden Hotel from about 10 Pm and you'll find some WG. Visit clubs like Bounce, New Era or pubs like Paddy Field and you'll find what you need but do not expect to be set on the tray.

Just keep your eyes open and play safe.

Have fun, Guangzhou is not dead at all.

AF

[QUOTE=Asia Fan; 1124694]Do not be worry Chriss. Guangzhou has nothing to campare with CP but is still in the businnes. Most of the 3 stars business hotels has Massage with HE at least. Ming Hong Hotel, Guangzhou Hotel, Ocean Hotel (expensive) and much more others has saunas with FS. Take a walk around the Garden Hotel from about 10 Pm and you'll find some WG. Visit clubs like Bounce, New Era or pubs like Paddy Field and you'll find what you need but do not expect to be set on the tray.

Just keep your eyes open and play safe.

Have fun, Guangzhou is not dead at all.

AF[/QUOTE]AsiaFan, thank you! Finally, it's the reply what I've been waiting for. I agree, that comparing to CP Guangzhou is nothing, but really good to know that it's not a desert! For sure we will try that places, or you have one which is good to recommend and better than others. Sauna or massage?

[QUOTE=Criss Thor;1124933]AsiaFan, thank you! Finally, it's the reply what I've been waiting for. I agree, that comparing to CP Guangzhou is nothing, but really good to know that it's not a desert! For sure we will try that places, or you have one which is good to recommend and better than others. Sauna or massage?[/QUOTE]You're welcome. Considering the saunas I can suggest you Ocean hotel sauna (5th flor if I'm right) , good value but not cheap (damage is approx 1 000) and Guangzhou (Canton) hotel.

If you want to catch the girl to the hotel, try Paddy Field, also good quality WG.

If you want the BBS experinence you have to go for a walk and maybe you'll find something intersting. It is not easy after the crakdowns but maybe they rebuild the business after the Asia games and CNY, now.

As I mentioned, do not expect the everything will be set on the tray but I'm sury you'll find what you need.

If you find something else, do not forget to share with the information.

When are you going to be there?

AF

[QUOTE=Asia Fan; 1124945]You're welcome. Considering the saunas I can suggest you Ocean hotel sauna (5th flor if I'm right) , good value but not cheap (damage is approx 1 000) and Guangzhou (Canton) hotel.

If you want to catch the girl to the hotel, try Paddy Field, also good quality WG.

If you want the BBS experinence you have to go for a walk and maybe you'll find something intersting. It is not easy after the crakdowns but maybe they rebuild the business after the Asia games and CNY, now.

As I mentioned, do not expect the everything will be set on the tray but I'm sury you'll find what you need.

If you find something else, do not forget to share with the information.

When are you going to be there?

AF[/QUOTE]If at all possible can someone please post a list of all the FS saunas in Guangzhou? We always hear that Ming Hong, Ocean and "so many others" are FS but these mysterious "so many others are never listed. I would compile the list myself but I only know if those two.

[QUOTE=Ixgzca;1124973]If at all possible can someone please post a list of all the FS saunas in Guangzhou? We always hear that Ming Hong, Ocean and "so many others" are FS but these mysterious "so many others are never listed. I would compile the list myself but I only know if those two.[/QUOTE]No one will post everything black on white. Understand the reasons. You should firstly put your back and find something by yourself.
It is your first post so, don't expect toons of feedbacks. PM to some experienced Guangzhou member and maybe you'll receive some direrections.

If you RTFF you would find much more than 2 mentioned. Don't be lazy.


AF

[QUOTE=Asia Fan; 1124945]You're welcome. Considering the saunas I can suggest you Ocean hotel sauna (5th flor if I'm right) , good value but not cheap (damage is approx 1 000) and Guangzhou (Canton) hotel.

If you want to catch the girl to the hotel, try Paddy Field, also good quality WG.

If you want the BBS experinence you have to go for a walk and maybe you'll find something intersting. It is not easy after the crakdowns but maybe they rebuild the business after the Asia games and CNY, now.

As I mentioned, do not expect the everything will be set on the tray but I'm sury you'll find what you need.

If you find something else, do not forget to share with the information.

When are you going to be there?

AF[/QUOTE]Asia Fan we arrive to CP 22 of March and after 4 day with BSD in CP we arrive to Guangzhou to take part in Interzoom fair. We together with Criss and 9 other guys will stay in JiangHe Hotel (this is quite good hotel and we have nice memories from past years) we need some info about saunas and other fun places near this hotel.

Thanks in advance.

J.

[QUOTE=Jacher; 1125084]Asia Fan we arrive to CP 22 of March and after 4 day with BSD in CP we arrive to Guangzhou to take part in Interzoom fair. We together with Criss and 9 other guys will stay in JiangHe Hotel (this is quite good hotel and we have nice memories from past years) we need some info about saunas and other fun places near this hotel.

Thanks in advance.

J. [/QUOTE]OK, got it.

I'm not familiar with this area too much but there should be some action nearby.

Quite close to you is / was place called Bliss Spa ore something like that. Not sure how the situation looks now but they offered massage with HE at least. Also not far is located Zhongxin Square. There is / was place with very sophisticated name."Guagzhou massage", just a brothel to put it bluntly. There is also an "Oriental massage" place. If you walk Tianhe North road in the city center direction you'll find it near the crossing streets of Tianhde and Sports West.

I aware that this places was operating some time ago for sure. Don't know, how is the current situation.

Maybe you'll find something else. Report when you'll be back.

Have fun guys.

AF

[QUOTE=Criss Thor; 1119382]Fellow Mongers. I know that Guangzhou thread here on forum quite well. Also Fillmore me and Jacher read all old and previous posts and reports, but still I got the feeling that situation isn't as clear as everybody wants. I know that Guangzhou is not CP and good sauna, KTV or club is hard to find. But in so big city it must be some place good to recommend, am I right?

Due to the fact, that I will visit Guangzhou end of March I try to have some fresh and actual info.

I know that Tang is finished (what a pity. , some of you says that KAMA is good. What else? And maybe someone can write few words about situation in Kama.

And : sauna, there is at least one or 2, which is worth to visit? If any, where and what price?

Same as KTV, where to go in Guangzhou to spend good time in KTV?

Anyone from you who lives in Guangzhou should know something about this.

And please don't tell that CP is better. For sure it is, but we need to spend few days in Guangzhou and I hope that we can find some acceptable sauna or KTV also in Guangzhou.

I'll be gratefull for any good info. [/QUOTE]Alright, fellas, I'm no expert, but I do speak fluent Chinese and have been doing some field research on the mongering scene here.

Guangzhou has changed fundamentally since the Asian Games. It's doubtful it will ever be what it used to be, as far as the mongering goes. Guangzhou is trying to improve it's international appeal by presenting itself as a clean, safe, and efficiently run city (even though we all know what things are really like under the surface). That said, there's still some fun to be had if you play your cards right.

There are saunas literally everywhere, but they don't all advertise themselves in English. Pretty much all of them offer "special" services, but these are typically HJ, BJ and / or topless HJ / BJ. Prices largely depend on the quality of facilities and location. I've experienced topless HJ for 258RMB in Guangzhou, as well as two girl HJ massage for $468. A bit of luck is involved here, though, as I've had some very GFE type experiences and some very sterile work-a-day types.

Thus far I don't know of any FS places, but some of the girls are willing to meet outside the sauna, so be sure to ask her if you're interested. Taking her back to your place can happen for anywhere between 400RMB to 600RMB, and these are for pretty hot girls. You need to be sure to ask the mama-san or papa-san for a good-looking girl, though. If you want thin and beautiful, try asking in English, but if that doesn't work, say "wo3 yao4 piao4liang4 miao4tiao2 yi4dian3 de nv3hai2zi" if you can decipher that.

If you want recommendations for specific places and locations, message me privately.

Happy mongering, and be sure to write reports!

[QUOTE=Asia Fan; 1125308]OK, got it.

I'm not familiar with this area too much but there should be some action nearby.

Quite close to you is / was place called Bliss Spa ore something like that. Not sure how the situation looks now but they offered massage with HE at least. Also not far is located Zhongxin Square. There is / was place with very sophisticated name."Guagzhou massage", just a brothel to put it bluntly. There is also an "Oriental massage" place. If you walk Tianhe North road in the city center direction you'll find it near the crossing streets of Tianhde and Sports West.

I aware that this places was operating some time ago for sure. Don't know, how is the current situation.

Maybe you'll find something else. Report when you'll be back.

Have fun guys.

AF[/QUOTE]AsiaFan, really thanks for that detailed info. I know, that these place can operate or not, I think that we can check part of them and after leave here some report. I'll be there together with Jacher and some other friends.

My question is if you can post here some Chinese names for HE or FS. Our mandarin is close to nothing, and better is to know how to communicate what we want is place like sauna or that Oriental massage. Yes, I know that probably I can find it in section about words and phrases, but Guangzhou is mostly cantonese, that's why I ask. Because maybe in Guangzhou there are some specific phrases for that.

Anyway, for all who are posting in that thread, let's try to make that Guangzhou thread alive. Not as dead as it was last times!

[QUOTE=Criss Thor; 1125626]AsiaFan, really thanks for that detailed info. I know, that these place can operate or not, I think that we can check part of them and after leave here some report. I'll be there together with Jacher and some other friends.

My question is if you can post here some Chinese names for HE or FS. Our mandarin is close to nothing, and better is to know how to communicate what we want is place like sauna or that Oriental massage. Yes, I know that probably I can find it in section about words and phrases, but Guangzhou is mostly cantonese, that's why I ask. Because maybe in Guangzhou there are some specific phrases for that.

Anyway, for all who are posting in that thread, let's try to make that Guangzhou thread alive. Not as dead as it was last times! [/QUOTE]Sorry Criss, I can't help you this time form the prosaic reason, I don't speak Chinese enough as well. Nevertheless I've never had problems with my needs explanation. Words and phrases thread should be enough, anyways you can also use motions to tell what you want.

If I'm right, youll be there just after CP visit and you are going to meet BSD so, I'm sure he can give You some quick training.

Have fun.

AF

[QUOTE=Asia Fan; 1125701]Sorry Criss, I can't help you this time form the prosaic reason, I don't speak Chinese enough as well. Nevertheless I've never had problems with my needs explanation. Words and phrases thread should be enough, anyways you can also use motions to tell what you want.

If I'm right, youll be there just after CP visit and you are going to meet BSD so, I'm sure he can give You some quick training.

Have fun.

AF[/QUOTE]Asia Fan, you are so good oriented in Guangzhou that I supposed, that you speak Chinese well, never mind! You're right, in CP BSD will be our guide so I will make some some practice. Anyway, if you will be in Guangzhou when we come I invite you for a drink or beer, if you like. Just PM me!

[QUOTE=Criss Thor; 1125626]AsiaFan, really thanks for that detailed info. I know, that these place can operate or not, I think that we can check part of them and after leave here some report. I'll be there together with Jacher and some other friends.

My question is if you can post here some Chinese names for HE or FS. Our mandarin is close to nothing, and better is to know how to communicate what we want is place like sauna or that Oriental massage. Yes, I know that probably I can find it in section about words and phrases, but Guangzhou is mostly cantonese, that's why I ask. Because maybe in Guangzhou there are some specific phrases for that.

Anyway, for all who are posting in that thread, let's try to make that Guangzhou thread alive. Not as dead as it was last times![/QUOTE]Chinese is indeed helpful if you want to specify what type of girl you want. If you want more of a GFE experience, then you'll need to tell them that's what you want, because some guys actually like girls that act kind of shy and are really "si1wen2". I live in Guangzhou and I can take you all to a place or two if you want to have a more authentic sort of cultural experience. I know the mamasan pretty well at one place in particular, and she'll have the girls do a lineup for me whenever I go. That's a better way to roll. Some of the girls will give your hands access to various parts of their body, too, so this place is always fun.

[QUOTE=Mcdawg;1125969]Chinese is indeed helpful if you want to specify what type of girl you want. If you want more of a GFE experience, then you'll need to tell them that's what you want, because some guys actually like girls that act kind of shy and are really "si1wen2". I live in Guangzhou and I can take you all to a place or two if you want to have a more authentic sort of cultural experience. I know the mamasan pretty well at one place in particular, and she'll have the girls do a lineup for me whenever I go. That's a better way to roll. Some of the girls will give your hands access to various parts of their body, too, so this place is always fun.[/QUOTE]Hey Mcdawg,

Sounds like you know Guangzhou pretty well and it would be interesting to see how much it's changed since I last spent any real time there. How can I contact you? You could also PM me your contact info, thanks.

SF

Mcdawg, great to hear it, I'm sure that we can try your proposition! Please PM me with some contact details. Can you post here some price level of that place you mentioned. It's good to plan the budget.

Regards

[QUOTE=Mcdawg; 1125601]Alright, fellas, I'm no expert, but I do speak fluent Chinese and have been doing some field research on the mongering scene here.

Guangzhou has changed fundamentally since the Asian Games. It's doubtful it will ever be what it used to be, as far as the mongering goes. Guangzhou is trying to improve it's international appeal by presenting itself as a clean, safe, and efficiently run city (even though we all know what things are really like under the surface). That said, there's still some fun to be had if you play your cards right.

There are saunas literally everywhere, but they don't all advertise themselves in English. Pretty much all of them offer "special" services, but these are typically HJ, BJ and / or topless HJ / BJ. Prices largely depend on the quality of facilities and location. I've experienced topless HJ for 258RMB in Guangzhou, as well as two girl HJ massage for $468. A bit of luck is involved here, though, as I've had some very GFE type experiences and some very sterile work-a-day types.

Thus far I don't know of any FS places, but some of the girls are willing to meet outside the sauna, so be sure to ask her if you're interested. Taking her back to your place can happen for anywhere between 400RMB to 600RMB, and these are for pretty hot girls. You need to be sure to ask the mama-san or papa-san for a good-looking girl, though. If you want thin and beautiful, try asking in English, but if that doesn't work, say "wo3 yao4 piao4liang4 miao4tiao2 yi4dian3 de nv3hai2zi" if you can decipher that.

If you want recommendations for specific places and locations, message me privately.

Happy mongering, and be sure to write reports! [/QUOTE]I have been telling others the same thing. So many times on the forum people have said there are "so many" FS saunas in Guangzhou but yet they are never identified. There are tons of saunas here but FS is almost nonexistent. So I go to the regular saunas and get the HJ / prostate massage and get the provider's phone number. Hasn't failed yet and I have gotten 8s and 9s to come to my place all day for 300¥. Even took one out of Shui Bo that did CIM and anal for 400¥ all night. Each one has been GFE as well. So guys. Go to a sauna and ask nicely to see a lineup. Ask the numbers of the ones you like and then try them for massage / HJ. As long as you are nice to them they will come to your place for 500¥ or less. I've also taken numerous girls out of one place and never had any problems.

[QUOTE=Ixgzca;1126095]I have been telling others the same thing. So many times on the forum people have said there are "so many" FS saunas in Guangzhou but yet they are never identified. There are tons of saunas here but FS is almost nonexistent. So I go to the regular saunas and get the HJ / prostate massage and get the provider's phone number. Hasn't failed yet and I have gotten 8s and 9s to come to my place all day for 300¥. Even took one out of Shui Bo that did CIM and anal for 400¥ all night. Each one has been GFE as well. So guys. Go to a sauna and ask nicely to see a lineup. Ask the numbers of the ones you like and then try them for massage / HJ. As long as you are nice to them they will come to your place for 500¥ or less. I've also taken numerous girls out of one place and never had any problems.[/QUOTE]I forgot to say YMMV! I'm rather young so the girls don't mind coming out with me. A few have told me they don't want to be seen out with older foreigners.

Good to see Guangzhou thread came back to the game.

Criss, I'm quite familiar with Guangzhou because I'm there few times a year. However, still far from an expert. Let's be in touch by PM.

Ixgzca, I can see that you are not a beginner what your first post suggested, It changes a lot. I'm rather youg as well and have to agree it helps a lot. Direct contacts with providers from massage parlours are one of the best possibilities to have FS indeed but, you can catch very hot chicks from the clubs as well.

Mcdawg, good to have someone on place who is so familar with the business. We'll be in touch.

AF

For those of you thinking about tracking down to CP during Canton Fair, I sugges that you make your reservations now so you can lock in to the rate and have your hotel of choice still be available as usually it will be very crowded in CP during that time. Hotel rooms in CP are already full from Thursday through Sunday so if you plan on coming down to CP at that time, make your reservations early.

The schedule for the fair is as follows:

Phase 1: April 15. 19, 2011 9:30. 18:00.

Phase 2: April 23. 27, 2011 9:30. 18:00.

Phase 3: May 1. May 5, 2011 9:30. 18:00.

BSD

[QUOTE=Asia Fan; 1126214]Good to see Guangzhou thread came back to the game.

Criss, I'm quite familiar with Guangzhou because I'm there few times a year. However, still far from an expert. Let's be in touch by PM.

Ixgzca, I can see that you are not a beginner what your first post suggested, It changes a lot. I'm rather youg as well and have to agree it helps a lot. Direct contacts with providers from massage parlours are one of the best possibilities to have FS indeed but, you can catch very hot chicks from the clubs as well.

Mcdawg, good to have someone on place who is so familar with the business. We'll be in touch.

AF[/QUOTE]Hey Asia Fan. Sorry about the misunderstanding. I only came off as a newb in an attempt to help the newbs. I'm young but I have been around. Mongered in every continent except Australia and North America. I live in Guangzhou full time for now, so I'm pretty well versed in the goings on around here. When asked about mongering most people will only say "Oh, before the Asian Games you could go here and here and here could blah blah blah". I agree since I was here before the asian games, but that is all in the past. Everyone wants to know about Guangzhou now. The beautification of the city came at a great cost to mongerers. So a clear and concise list would be great. I think before you said something about people not posting it for "obvious reasons". I'm not sure what these obvious reasons could be. Maybe LE lurking? But hey guys. This is China. The LE doesn't need to lurk here to find these places. They already know. LOL. I have a few days off coming up and I will be going to some more saunas in search of FS. Take out is great but sometimes you just don't want the hassle. After these next few trips I will do the list myself. Which honestly will probably only be one or two more than the ones already listed.

As far as clubs. This kinda of goes without saying. Yes, girls are available in clubs. It takes more work but totally doable. And actually I would say the girls that I have taken from spas / saunas look better than the usual chicks hanging around in the clubs. Unless you are talking about Kama, but that is a different animal (Kama is good if you like foreign girls). But I prefer the sauna scene. KTVs are ok too, but I usually only go to meet a girl and then just see her on her off time. PM me if you're around Asia Fan. Maybe we can make a few rounds in Guangzhou. I'm 24 and don't drink but people tell me I'm pretty cool to be around. Haha.

Oh. And my inquiry still stands. Anyone with info on a FS sauna (operating post-Asian Games) please share!

[QUOTE=Criss Thor;1123491]Meiguoguizi, your answer is very clear. The only problem is that I done all that points allready. But I (with some friends) need to spend 4 days in CP (that's why I did allready what you suggested) and AFTER that spend 4 days in Guangzhou without taking every day the train to CP from Guangzhou. So let's say, that funny part of our trip is first part. 4 days in CP, but what about the second part in Guangzhou? Really nothing to do? Just normal body and foot massage? : Maybe some hanky panky massage if not Full service?[/QUOTE]I know of a sauna at Shamian next to the Victory hotel. Victory hotel has an east and west wing on Shamian. I think it's the west wing you want to live in. Next to that hotel there's a sauna. Actually situated on the 3rd floor of the hotel but you cannot access it immediately through the hotel.

Sauna with bathing, scrubbing back. And then picking girls. Been there once a few years ago, girls were not that hot perhaps a 5, but beats nothing. Victory hotel is 4 stars

Hey Ixgzca. Now everything is totally clear. To be honest, my eperince is based on the pre-Asian Games period of time so please, do not scare me that so many things has changed within last 3 month. I've beed there last time between the cantonfair and the AG. My next trip is scheduled on the first week of may so the 3rd fair phase. I'll arrive to China 2 weeks earlier but firstly I visit factories aroud the Shanghai, then move to dongguan (CP mongering.) and the guangzhou afterwards. I'm definately interesting in some common sauna raids.
My "obvious reasons" was LE indeed. Probably you are right saying they know everything very well but if not, why to make their life easier, anyway.

Is that real the saunas situation after the AG not coming back to normal again? I hope not.

I'll let you know about my places, lets be in touch by PM.

AF

Guys, I'm proud a little bit, that finally together we made that thread more "fresh".

I will PM you about that places you mentioned. BTW, what you mean saying "young"? . Do you treat man before 40 as young or allready old? .

Need to know, what is the chance.

[QUOTE=Criss Thor; 1127134]Guys, I'm proud a little bit, that finally together we made that thread more "fresh".

I will PM you about that places you mentioned. BTW, what you mean saying "young"? . Do you treat man before 40 as young or allready old? .

Need to know, what is the chance. [/QUOTE]Hi Criss.

I'm happy we refreshed this thread as well. I'll be waiting for your PM after you are back.
I can't say about the age in Ixgzcas name but I'm 33 so, in my pov still young.

Enjoy your trip to China as much as possible but remember to play safe.

AF

Hi all,

I was in Guangzhou last year but couldn't score much due to my tight schedule. This time I'll need to stay around 2 weeks in March. I'm not a newbie and always reciprocate. Last time I was stayed on Ocean hotel. I love the Huangshi Dong Lu road but Ocean hotel was expensive. Is there any cheap hotel in the vicinity of Ocean hotel? My budget is USD50 / night.

On a separate note, can you guys recommend any travel companion I hear so much about. Is it really worth?

Thanks

Managed to find old post by Old Asia Hand to my query last year! He recommended San Mao hotel. Is it any good? How about Blue Sky hotel in the same area?

Could you pl up date on jangle hotel, is it gf.

[QUOTE=Jacher; 1125084]Asia Fan we arrive to CP 22 of March and after 4 day with BSD in CP we arrive to Guangzhou to take part in Interzoom fair. We together with Criss and 9 other guys will stay in JiangHe Hotel (this is quite good hotel and we have nice memories from past years) we need some info about saunas and other fun places near this hotel.

Thanks in advance.

J. [/QUOTE]

Guys,

Can anyone tell me about this hotel, whether its GF or whether the in-house SPA / Massage room provide FS?

Grand Continental Service Apartment

No. 147-149 Beijing Road, Yuexiu District.Beijing road / Haizhu Square, Guangzhou.

Is it GF,

Lilac International Suites

1 Taisheng Road Tianhe District, Tianhe District.Teemall / East Railway Station, Guangzhou,

Is it also GF,

Is it near the action / clubs, highly appreceate your comments,

Will post my report in 4 weeks time after my trip, most probably with photo, see my reports in HK / Dubai.

So experienced persons pl reply, which will help all of us.

[QUOTE=Topmanten;1128753]Could you pl up date on jangle hotel, is it gf.[/QUOTE]Yes, Jianghe Hotel I GF, any problems there. It's not in the center, but I like location because it's very close to Train Station Guangzhou East.

Await some help.

[QUOTE=Topmanten; 1129035]Grand Continental Service Apartment

No. 147-149 Beijing Road, Yuexiu District. Beijing road / Haizhu Square, Guangzhou.

Is it GF,

Lilac International Suites

1 Taisheng Road Tianhe District, Tianhe District. Teemall / East Railway Station, Guangzhou,

Is it also GF,

Is it near the action / clubs, highly appreceate your comments,

Will post my report in 4 weeks time after my trip, most probably with photo, see my reports in HK / Dubai.

So experienced persons pl reply, which will help all of us. [/QUOTE]

1) Which hotel is better? Garden hotel or Bai Yun.

2) What the cheapest way to call from China where would I get the best rates.

3) Is there any way in that area to find, any type of service to someone who is shy and a newbie?

4) Would the hotel let a female visit my room?

5) What is SW, what is is there, in the hotel or in the area? What are the options? , I am not a real pro anything can satisfy me.

Is there reason to be afraid to follow a normal looking female to her location? Is there crime and robbery traps?

[QUOTE=Bil Deryid; 1129628]1) Which hotel is better? Garden hotel or Bai Yun.

2) What the cheapest way to call from China where would I get the best rates.

3) Is there any way in that area to find, any type of service to someone who is shy and a newbie?

4) Would the hotel let a female visit my room?

5) What is SW, what is is there, in the hotel or in the area? What are the options? , I am not a real pro anything can satisfy me.[/QUOTE]

Is it safe to walk late at night onHUan SHI road near the Baiyun and Garden hotels, it that whole area safe?

What would you suggest a newbie does to get hooked up with a female?

[QUOTE=Bil Deryid; 1129950]Is it safe to walk late at night onHUan SHI road near the Baiyun and Garden hotels, it that whole area safe?

What would you suggest a newbie does to get hooked up with a female? [/QUOTE]Safety is not an issue, lack of provider in Guangzhou is the key problem. P4P market price too low and only the old-fat-ugly will do it and thus very difficult in Guangzhou to find quality provider, as they have moved to HK to get a higher price. SWs are plentyfull starting 8pm and bars like Gypsy King always have them, but again, I have never been able to pick up any WG in Guangzhou who is under 25, weight less then 45kg and attractive.

Nowadays, I too, have choosen to go down to CP for those, or to HK.

Fillmore

[QUOTE=Bil Deryid; 1129628]1) Which hotel is better? Garden hotel or Bai Yun.

2) What the cheapest way to call from China where would I get the best rates.

3) Is there any way in that area to find, any type of service to someone who is shy and a newbie?

4) Would the hotel let a female visit my room?

5) What is SW, what is is there, in the hotel or in the area? What are the options? , I am not a real pro anything can satisfy me.[/QUOTE]1) About the same, they are literally across the street from each other.

2) Skype.

3) You're in China bro, P4P is a part of the culture.

4) Depends on the hotel, but generally yes

5) SW is a street walker, the lowest form of P4P. Go to a sauna, much better.

If you have the time, go to a town called Chang Ping trust me its worth it. Think of CP as Vegas but instead of casinos its full of *houses. Its 30 mins by a comfy fast train.

What is p4p? Any good sauna massage places ner bai yun hotel?

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1130188]Safety is not an issue, lack of provider in Guangzhou is the key problem. P4P market price too low and only the old-fat-ugly will do it and thus very difficult in Guangzhou to find quality provider, as they have moved to HK to get a higher price. SWs are plentyfull starting 8pm and bars like Gypsy King always have them, but again, I have never been able to pick up any WG in Guangzhou who is under 25, weight less then 45kg and attractive.

Nowadays, I too, have choosen to go down to CP for those, or to HK.

Fillmore[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bil Deryid;1130388]What is p4p? Any good sauna massage places ner bai yun hotel?[/QUOTE]It's pay for play. Prositutes man, RTFF.

Before I reach Guanghzhou on March 12, I've tried dateinasia website and one girl named Gaby201044 quoted me Y2500 for 1 hour! Is it something real or did she take me for a fool? I offered Y400 and she curtly replied NO. So guys, what is the fair price for 1 hour out call to my hotel room?

I'm reproducing her message "yes, I can speak english. My mobile is XXXXX. I can stay one to two hours each day. If you want to make love with me. I only make one love evey time come to see you. Please use condom and I do not do ass fuck. And I want 2500 evey day. Can you afford me?"

[QUOTE=Zabed1970; 1130787]Before I reach Guanghzhou on March 12, I've tried dateinasia website and one girl named Gaby201044 quoted me Y2500 for 1 hour! Is it something real or did she take me for a fool? I offered Y400 and she curtly replied NO. So guys, what is the fair price for 1 hour out call to my hotel room?

I'm reproducing her message "yes, I can speak english. My mobile is XXXXX. I can stay one to two hours each day. If you want to make love with me. I only make one love evey time come to see you. Please use condom and I do not do ass fuck. And I want 2500 evey day. Can you afford me?"[/QUOTE]You can't afford her. LOL. Move on.

[QUOTE=Bil Deryid; 1129628]1) Which hotel is better? Garden hotel or Bai Yun.[/QUOTE]The BaiYun management are pussy Nazis. I was THROWN OUT last year with a CP girl 'friend'. IN THE AFTERNOON! The night before I had to berate the guard at 2am in Chinese that he was embarassiing my wife.

Repeat: the management of the Baiyun WILL NOT allow you to bring in a girl.

[QUOTE=Zabed1970; 1130787]Before I reach Guanghzhou on March 12, I've tried dateinasia website and one girl named Gaby201044 quoted me Y2500 for 1 hour! Is it something real or did she take me for a fool? I offered Y400 and she curtly replied NO. So guys, what is the fair price for 1 hour out call to my hotel room?

I'm reproducing her message "yes, I can speak english. My mobile is XXXXX. I can stay one to two hours each day. If you want to make love with me. I only make one love evey time come to see you. Please use condom and I do not do ass fuck. And I want 2500 evey day. Can you afford me?"[/QUOTE]Her demand is ridiculous. Do not pay more than 1 000 for quality girl. 600-800 for ST is a regular rate.

Of course I'm not talking about the outcall services which got the fake photos and are veeeeeery overpricing.

Don't let them FUCK you, You are going there to fuck them, remember that!

AF

[QUOTE=Asia Fan; 1130941]Her demand is ridiculous. Do not pay more than 1 000 for quality girl. 600-800 for ST is a regular rate.

Of course I'm not talking about the outcall services which got the fake photos and are veeeeeery overpricing.

Don't let them FUCK you, You are going there to fuck them, remember that!

AF[/QUOTE]Again, I had said before, P4P price too low in Guangzhou. You can get those 200 or even 150 walking around Garden hotels at night. Real quality in Guangzhou will cost more then 1000 but it is very important that you pick them up yourself and they are very hard to find.

Fillmore

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1130948]Again, I had said before, P4P price too low in Guangzhou. You can get those 200 or even 150 walking around Garden hotels at night. Real quality in Guangzhou will cost more then 1000 but it is very important that you pick them up yourself and they are very hard to find.

Fillmore[/QUOTE]OK, I can agree the real quality can be even more than 1 000 but not 2 500 and definately not from an outcall services. The best way is to visit good clubs quite late.

AF

So if I am in the garden hotel, how in the world can I have some fun? If I can not get a girl up to the room, is there anything close by? Sauna or anything else?

Or there is some option of getting a girl up to the room?

Please respond, I am almost leaving to guangzhou in a few days, please give me some advise. Any way to get some fun? Where around the hotel is there any action at all.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1130948]Again, I had said before, P4P price too low in Guangzhou. You can get those 200 or even 150 walking around Garden hotels at night. Real quality in Guangzhou will cost more then 1000 but it is very important that you pick them up yourself and they are very hard to find.

Fillmore[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Asia Fan; 1130953]OK, I can agree the real quality can be even more than 1 000 but not 2 500 and definately not from an outcall services. The best way is to visit good clubs quite late.

AF[/QUOTE]Sure, Guangzhou is situation rather desperate, especially for qualities, but still, no need to use out calls.

I did picked up a very sexy SW who insisted must go with her rather ugly friend for 600. She looked like those worth 1000 so I obliged and told her that I would only do her and her friend must stay outside to wait for us.

Turned out she had a C section scar, which explained the lower price, and she was wonderful otherwise, still very firm body and flat stomach, but that scar was still a bit of a turn off, so again, quality difficult to find in Guangzhou. I have been to a few bars and WG aplenty, but none attractive enough for me, and I ended up spending much of the rest of my trip in CP.

Fillmore

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1130987]Sure, Guangzhou is situation rather desperate, especially for qualities, but still, no need to use out calls.

I did picked up a very sexy SW who insisted must go with her rather ugly friend for 600. She looked like those worth 1000 so I obliged and told her that I would only do her and her friend must stay outside to wait for us.

Turned out she had a C section scar, which explained the lower price, and she was wonderful otherwise, still very firm body and flat stomach, but that scar was still a bit of a turn off, so again, quality difficult to find in Guangzhou. I have been to a few bars and WG aplenty, but none attractive enough for me, and I ended up spending much of the rest of my trip in CP.

Fillmore[/QUOTE]That's fun but I've had very similar situation approx. 1 year ago in Guangzhou.

I've been with my buddy in New Era. I even did not want to monger this evening but just to have a few drinks and have fun. When we've been at the dance floor, at one moment, 2 hot chicks appeared next to me giving me and my buddy very clear signals what is available. He is not monger type at all so, girls focused on me. We had a lot of fun dancing and chatting later on. Because I've been a little bit drunk (but still ready to go) I quickly decided to change my plans and take care about them this night till the end of it. Quality was also unusual in terms of Guangzhou.

I rather take this situation as an accident at work than typical.

Because of my work I can not resign from Guangzhou visits at all so, I have to do my best to spent nice time as much as possible. Usually it is choosing between more or less lack of quality but still possible to get relax. Fortunately every one my trip is combined with few days in CP so, I don't have to be worry about fun.

AF

[QUOTE=Asia Fan; 1131043].

I've been with my buddy in New Era. I even did not want to monger this evening but just to have a few drinks and have fun. When we've been at the dance floor, at one moment. 2 hot chicks appeared next to me giving me and my buddy very clear signals what is available. [/QUOTE]I actually didn't know about this club, will definitely check it out on my next trip in early April.

Yes, similiar situation here, I have to work in Guangzhou everyday, so I had to leave work early to take the 5:15pm train to CP to beat the traffic for those early flower streets. The train ride were never 30 min as the tickets were always sold out for the next train so there was usually a 30 min waste before, and then some more time wasted at CP end due to the terrible traffic before 7pm, so in short, you really have to leave work before 5pm in order to get to a CP KTV at 6:45pm, so kind of difficult to do it on a routine.

The good thing about CP is that the girls don't mind too much of coming out to Guangzhou, so on days that I don't want the trouble of going down there, I text one to come to me instead, but certainly look forward to more clubbing in Guangzhou and see if I run into good luck like you did.

Fillmore

The new Guangzhou. Zhu hai intercity light rail is open have any one take this yet, my friend told me it start operation in Jan but it only go to N Zhu hai end at the airport take 76 min with stop at Jiangmen and Shunde, by early next yr there will be a non stop fast train that go all the way to Gonbei.Macau border whole trip only take 46 min.

Fast Eddie 48

Is there any chance that I can get any extras if I take a massage in the hotel massage parlor?

And other places close by for a good massage with a bit of extras?

Especially on Saturday

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1131136]The new Guangzhou. Zhu hai intercity light rail is open have any one take this yet, my friend told me it start operation in Jan but it only go to N Zhu hai end at the airport take 76 min with stop at Jiangmen and Shunde, by early next yr there will be a non stop fast train that go all the way to Gonbei. Macau border whole trip only take 46 min.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]As a Guangzhou to Zhuhai regular, I couldn't resist but tried it out when I was in Guangzhou a week ago.

1. Difficult to get to Guangzhou south, best is to take subway line2. I entered from JiNianTang station and it was 30 min ride from Guangzhou center to that station.

2. Ticketing was at a far away location, so it was a bit of a walk from subway to ticket office and back to terminal, I would say this adds another 15 min.

3. If you time your trip, then maybe just another 10 min to wait for the train, which was indeed 40 min to Zhuhai N.

4. Once you get off, easy to get a taxi and it took 30 min to get to my hotel in GongBei area, at night, with no traffic.

So to sum up, it ended up taking about 2 hours, and a lot of exchange, so pretty much the same as taking the bus right now. Certainly look forward to later this or early next when the train will get to GongBei and take the YangChengTong card without a trip to that ticketing office.

Fillmore

[QUOTE=Bil Deryid; 1131150]Is there any chance that I can get any extras if I take a massage in the hotel massage parlor?

And other places close by for a good massage with a bit of extras?

Especially on Saturday[/QUOTE]Probability is rather high. Maybe it will not be FS but HE should be available.

AF

So many boring questions on this thread, discussions on taking the metro, RTFF questions, and invitations to go to CP where things are so much better. Well, there are places to go in Guangzhou (though I certainly won't argue the worth of Guangzhou over CP as a mongering destination) , if you just look. I had the occasion to head out of HK for a few days up to Guangzhou and found a decent full service sauna near the Dongfang Hotel / Marriott Hotel. The Google maps link is: tiny url dot com / 6h4karw.

The details:

After finishing running some errands as a favour for my friend, I had some time off and decided to try a sauna that was reviewed on this forum. From Dongfang Hotel, turn left on Liuhua Road. At the first intersection, turn left at North Renmin Road. The first small intersection is Panfu Dajie. Turn left here, and the Deyi Sangna Health Club is only about 50 meters down the street on the left.

Walk in, go down a couple steps to the counter. There are a few different kinds of massage, but mongers will want the "Thai Massage" for 368 RMB. I asked about the other kinds, which were regular massage and Chinese massage. I was told that the Thai Massage (listed as 90 minutes) would offer the "best service". I know what that means, and I took it.

I was lead off into the men's locker room. Regulars know the deal. You put on a bracelet with your number. The locker room attendants help you change out of your clothes, put everything away, and then hit the lockers. There is an extra 10 RMB fee here for the clothes you wear for the Thai Massage. This extra charge doesn't apply for the other massages. Oy, what's a Pound here or there?

After the shower, putting on my fancy new 10 RMB clothes, I was led off to the rest area. As I was there in the late afternoon, there was not too much activity. The bartender gave me a Coke, and I asked to get the massage quickly since my time was limited. After a while, a youngish "mamasan" asked me to go upstairs and led me down a dark series of corridors to a massage room.

Eventually the massage girl entered. They keep the rooms fairly dark, so it's difficult to see too much. The girl I had is local (as she had a thick Cantonese accent when speaking Mandarin. English was very limited.) Facilities seemed reasonably clean, but old. Not terrible, not great, but in the middle of the scale. The "massage" started with me faced down. Not great, but decent, and a lot of attention paid to the posterior.

Keep in mind, I thought this place was just a HJ-type place. My masseuse, #22, claimed to be new to this establishment. I believe she was new to this sauna, but not new to the sauna business. Difficult to see exactly, but probably in the mid- to late-20s. Nice personality, and we chatted a while during the massage. It's always better to develop some relationship with the masseuse. In this case helpful to know some Chinese. (Though Cantonese would have been better!)

After about 20 minutes, she ducked out for a bit to get a "glass of water". This turned out to be the requisite equipment for fire and ice. She did some of the water-gurgling-on-the-back routine, and then asked me to turn over. (I much obliged.) Off come the shorts, and then starts the BBBJ with fire and ice. Quite good. During this time, she grabbed my hand to put on her tits and asked me to feel her up. No problem.

Some more of this, and then out comes the 'dom, and she asked whether she or I should be on top. I'm a lazy guy, and asked her to be on top. (And at this time, very pleasantly surprised it's not just a HJ establishment!) What followed was one of the more passionate experiences I've ever had in a sauna. Maybe she's new to this place, but I felt that Miss #22 was enthusiastic, and seemed into it. First, she was on top, and I sucked on her nipples for a while (which she seemed to like). Eventually we switched, with her on the bottom. A lot of sauna girls give you a feeling of a definite routine, but not here. She seemed more open and flexible. No kissing (though I didn't try.) No DATY (again, didn't try) , but overall, I felt it was one of the better sauna experiences I've had. Be advised, this may be due to the fact I was only expecting an HJ and got much more.

I would definitely go back and ask for #22. No, she's not the youngest or prettiest. But overall an excellent provider. She asked me to call her next time I'm in Guangzhou. (So here's hoping my friend needs another favour done soon!)

After the deed, we chatted for a bit. I needed to catch a train back to HK, so I didn't stay the full 90 minutes. I didn't get the feeling there would be an opportunity for a second pop even if I didn't have to get back home. I just headed back down to the showers, washed off, changed back up, gave the locker attendants a tip (they seemed like decent guys, and weren't pushy, so I gave them 50 RMB) , and then out the door. This place makes you pre-pay for the massage, so nothing to do when I left. Just back out on the street, squinting in the sun, looking for a taxi to get back to Guangzhou East Station.

Hope this is helpful, and have fun in Guangzhou.

[QUOTE=Gao Xing;1131523]So many boring questions on this thread, discussions on taking the metro, RTFF questions, and invitations to go to CP where things are so much better. Well, there are places to go in Guangzhou (though I certainly won't argue the worth of Guangzhou over CP as a mongering destination) , if you just look. I had the occasion to head out of HK for a few days up to Guangzhou and found a decent full service sauna near the Dongfang Hotel / Marriott Hotel. The Google maps link is: tiny url dot com / 6h4karw.[/QUOTE]Sorry Gao Xing but tip about link isn't helpful if you are so kind please paste link from google maps. This will help us to find this place in Guangzhou.

Regards.

Jacher

Guys,

Everyone is talking about CP but can anyone clarify how one to go about in CP? I can definitely get on a train to CP but then how to find the right place for action?

[QUOTE=Jacher;1131568]Sorry Gao Xing but tip about link isn't helpful if you are so kind please paste link from google maps. This will help us to find this place in Guangzhou.[/QUOTE]Jacher, the link to Google maps works fine. Also, links can't be posted directly in this forum. Plus there is also more than enough information in the report for you to find it.

[QUOTE=Gao Xing;1131628]Jacher, the link to Google maps works fine. Also, links can't be posted directly in this forum. Plus there is also more than enough information in the report for you to find it.[/QUOTE]Yes, I think Gao Xing has provided excellent details, great job man. I am not so much of a sauna type but still appreciate the excellent contributions. I also found it is not too difficult to get good sauna experience in Guangzhou, but what is really missing in Guangzhou are quality WGs in clubs and bars. If you go down to Lan Kwai Fong in Hong Kong, you willl see all those WGs and some used to work in Guangzhou. I enjoy the process of picking up a cute looking girl in a busy bar, like we used to be able to do in Tang club, before it was closed down.

Fillmore

Great job Gao Xing! This is definitelly one of the best reports posted here last weeks. I will try that sauna soon and post my report. The only question, is if they have same offer for foreigners, which almost don't speak mandarin or cantonese or very, very little.

[QUOTE=Gao Xing;1131523]Walk in, go down a couple steps to the counter. There are a few different kinds of massage, but mongers will want the "Thai Massage" for 368 RMB. I asked about the other kinds, which were regular massage and Chinese massage. I was told that the Thai Massage (listed as 90 minutes) would offer the "best service". I know what that means, and I took it.[/QUOTE]Been there a few times, nice place. The locker room boys can be a bit pushy for the tips. The mamasan kinda whispered to me "You want sexy massage" and I said well yeah.

Not too hard to find, just follow the given directions.

Good one Gao Xing

[QUOTE=Criss Thor;1131733]The only question, is if they have same offer for foreigners, which almost don't speak mandarin or cantonese or very, very little.[/QUOTE]The pricing is printed on a laminated piece of paper in English and Chinese, so you shouldn't worry about having a different price for the "Thai Massage". Again, you'll have an extra 10 RMB charge for their classy pj's. My masseuse said that they get a lot of foreigners there from all over. So, there's no worry about not getting service if you don't speak Chinese as they are used to it. You won't be able to talk politics and history with the girl, but that's not what your there for anyway. Most people there can speak a little English, and I'm confident you should be able to have a good time. Please do post a report on your experience.

[QUOTE=Fisholio;1131752]The locker room boys can be a bit pushy for the tips.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's always the problem with these sauna's isn't it. I was lucky as the two guys this time were pretty cool and not pushy at all. I was also surprised that the tip tray only at 20's taped to them, and not Red Mao 100's. For the exact reason that they weren't pushy and reasonably friendly, I gave them more than I would otherwise.

Thanks a lot Gao. Didn't know about this one before but I'm going to try this place soon as well.

AF

[QUOTE=Asia Fan;1131823]Thanks a lot Gao. Didn't know about this one before but I'm going to try this place soon as well.[/QUOTE]Great! Please post a report if you do. Hope you also have a good experience.

By the way, there is another sauna / massage place right in front of the Dongfang Hotel. I've been there a couple times, but felt that the overall service at Deyi Sauna was better (especially for the service per cost ratio). I don't remember all the specifics, since it's been a few months, but in general:

DONGFANG HOTEL SAUNA.

* I don't recall the exact name, but it is directly in front of the Dongfang Hotel.

* From the street (Liuhua Road) , go down a long set of stairs to the main counter. Ask for the Japanese Massage.

* Enter the locker room / changing area to put on their sauna clothes. From there, you go into a restaurant / waiting relaxing area.

* All the services and drinks in the relaxation area are extra. I recommend the ear cleaning service, as there is nothing else like it. Pass on the massage, since you'll get a massage with the girl.

* Eventually, you'll be led by one of the sexy girls to a massage room. As I recall you get a halfway decent massage followed by an HJ.

* I also recall there are a whole bunch of extra charges, which makes it difficult to escape with less than 800 RMB.

Again, I haven't been there in a few months, and anyone who has been there recently should post a report. I think the experience is too pricey for what is offered. Essentially an expensive HJ. The new location I found at Deyi Sauna, and described below, is a much better detail. Yes, the facilities at Dongfang are cleaner and the girls seem to be a bit younger / sexier, but it's relatively expensive for just an HJ.

All reports welcomed!

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1131295]As a Guangzhou to Zhuhai regular, I couldn't resist but tried it out when I was in Guangzhou a week ago.

1. Difficult to get to Guangzhou south, best is to take subway line2. I entered from JiNianTang station and it was 30 min ride from Guangzhou center to that station.

2. Ticketing was at a far away location, so it was a bit of a walk from subway to ticket office and back to terminal, I would say this adds another 15 min.

3. If you time your trip, then maybe just another 10 min to wait for the train, which was indeed 40 min to Zhuhai N.

4. Once you get off, easy to get a taxi and it took 30 min to get to my hotel in GongBei area, at night, with no traffic.

So to sum up, it ended up taking about 2 hours, and a lot of exchange, so pretty much the same as taking the bus right now. Certainly look forward to later this or early next when the train will get to GongBei and take the YangChengTong card without a trip to that ticketing office.

Fillmore[/QUOTE]Thanks fillmore

I will try it next month be coming to the canton fair just take it to Shunde, so you must must exit the MTR staion to change to a different station the new light rail, it will be good if this go all the way to ZH Gonbei non stop next yr save on hr going to N Zhu hai now is useless.

Fast Eddie 48

Is hotel president tian he road, near a large electronic market is GF?

Any good bars in that area for pickup to hotel for LT and if yes appox rate. I don't like to increase the rate bar for lt.

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1131922]Thanks fillmore

I will try it next month be coming to the canton fair just take it to Shunde, so you must must exit the MTR staion to change to a different station the new light rail, it will be good if this go all the way to ZH Gonbei non stop next yr save on hr going to N Zhu hai now is useless.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Subway exit into the same building, just walk upstairs to the lightrail platforms, but the ticketing office there was not open so had to walk a long walk to a different wing, maybe when you go, they will open the ticketing window near the platform?

F.

[QUOTE=Topmanten; 1132002]Is hotel president tian he road, near a large electronic market is GF?

Any good bars in that area for pickup to hotel for LT and if yes appox rate. I don't like to increase the rate bar for lt.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]I had reported before that when I stayed there last time, which was a year ago, it was GF. As for bars, you can just forget about it. That hotel is far away from any bars and Guangzhou bars usually do not have WGs and when you find a bar that does, the WGs are in the 30s or 40s and fat.

Several KTVs are not too far away though, so all those cute girls you see on the street around that hotel must be working in one of those KTVs.

F.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1132012]. Guangzhou bars usually do not have WGs and when you find a bar that does, the WGs are in the 30s or 40s and fat.

F. [/QUOTE]Fillmore St, you mentioned before how Guangzhou is not very good for WGs; that a lot of WGs go to HK, leaving the unattractive ones behind. Has this been the long term trend, or the result of recent crackdowns, particularly the one associated with the Asian Games held there?

Thanks.

What will be the apex rate for Lt from.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1132012]I had reported before that when I stayed there last time, which was a year ago, it was GF. As for bars, you can just forget about it. That hotel is far away from any bars and Guangzhou bars usually do not have WGs and when you find a bar that does, the WGs are in the 30s or 40s and fat.

Several KTVs are not too far away though, so all those cute girls you see on the street around that hotel must be working in one of those KTVs.

F. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Topmanten; 1132179]Thanks.

What will be the apex rate for Lt from. [/QUOTE]MTV rates? I think that channel is free? No idea why you are asking about that, as I thought we are talking about WGs in this forum.

As for KTVs, anyone interested going together?

F.

It typo mistake auto correction by my iPad.

What will be Lt rate from KTV pickups if it is available or lt rate from massage. Sauna.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1132544]MTV rates? I think that channel is free? No idea why you are asking about that, as I thought we are talking about WGs in this forum.

As for KTVs, anyone interested going together?

F. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dbhappiness; 1099878][url]http://maps.google.com.hk/maps?um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=Tianyi+Health+Center+guangzhou&fb=1&gl=hk&hq=Tianyi+Health+Center&hnear=Guangzhou,+Guangdong,+China&cid=0,0,5225244148987113028&ei=GuD6TLniIc7irAf39rmgCA&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CBYQnwIwAA[/url]

Tianyi Health Center.

Been there a few times. ¥108 / massage and HJ. ¥288 / FS / no massage.

It's a small SAUNA. Chairs. TV. Drinks. Showers. Since 4 months ago and the the ASIAN games they stopped the HJ and FS. But maybe they have resumed.

Any Update? I don't speak MUCH CHINESE so I can't ask if they are back in full swing. Maybe one of the boys on here can swing by and see what's up?

DB[/QUOTE]Went there today, they are back in business. Went in and the mamasan asked if I wanted a massage. Said sure. Got a so-so massage from a scantily clad rail of a girl, then a HJ. When the time was up I asked if they did FS there and the girl said 300&20803; . My Chinese is limited but I know what to ask for.

The link to the Map is ok. Kinda easy to find. Exit C Line 8. Over a street then walk down. On the right.

On another note, the South American Spa still does HJ, I think. It seems to be hit and miss. They do them when LE is not there (which seems to be quite often)

Fisholio

Hope some of you will through some light on these points.

[QUOTE=Topmanten; 1132562]It typo mistake auto correction by my iPad.

What will be Lt rate from KTV pickups if it is available or lt rate from massage. Sauna. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Topmanten;1133662]Hope some of you will through some light on these points.[/QUOTE]If you mean KTV pickup? Sorry, usually no such thing. You need to put down at least 4k to go to a KTV and the girls never go out on your first visit, so you need to repeat a few times, then you may get lucky to get a girl to go out with you.

As for sauna and message, RTFF, as those are not my things.

F.

Hi Criss.

So, you and Jacher (plus the rest who doesn't post here) are members of the Polish team. Nice. It looks you are going to have a great time in CP and Guangzhou afterwards and you leave just in few days. Ahhhh, I'm really jealous about that. Honestly speaking I have to wait only few weeks more for my trip but I really can wait no more for it.

Do not forget to post reports from both cities when you are back. Can be even in your mother language by PM.

P. S. Pozdrowionka

[QUOTE=Asia Fan; 1135062]Hi Criss.

So, you and Jacher (plus the rest who doesn't post here) are members of the Polish team. Nice. It looks you are going to have a great time in CP and Guangzhou afterwards and you leave just in few days. Ahhhh, I'm really jealous about that. Honestly speaking I have to wait only few weeks more for my trip but I really can wait no more for it.

Do not forget to post reports from both cities when you are back. Can be even in your mother language by PM.

P. S. Pozdrowionka[/QUOTE]Asia Fan, what a surprise.

In fact, only 3 days left, to start our visit. First 4 days in CP are mainly for relax. Next days in Guangzhou will be for the fairs, but as you all know, fairs don't lasts 24 hours, so rest of the day we plan to spend exploring some new places (what a pity about Tang!). Also thank to you Asia Fan I hope to find something new in old Guangzhou! Of course I will try (also Jacher) to write here good reports. Last year I was too drunk sometimes to write and remember all details, but this year we have a secretary.)

So you can expect here reports about CP and Guangzhou.

Regards for all of you!

[QUOTE=Criss Thor; 1135204]Asia Fan, what a surprise.

In fact, only 3 days left, to start our visit. First 4 days in CP are mainly for relax. Next days in Guangzhou will be for the fairs, but as you all know, fairs don't lasts 24 hours, so rest of the day we plan to spend exploring some new places (what a pity about Tang!). Also thank to you Asia Fan I hope to find something new in old Guangzhou! Of course I will try (also Jacher) to write here good reports. Last year I was too drunk sometimes to write and remember all details, but this year we have a secretary.)

So you can expect here reports about CP and Guangzhou.

Regards for all of you! [/QUOTE]The World is extremaly small!

I have exactly the same plan as You guys but start little bit later so your, updated info is really appreciated.

Bawcie sie dobrze / have fun and play safe.

Cheers.

AF

Gao Xing,

Thank you for your excellent reports.

The sauna in front of Dongfang Hotel has been there for nearly 20 years. It has always been expensive catering to the BSDs that stay at the those 5 star hotels looking for safety and convenience. The first time I went there in 1995the price was 288+++. Before moving to Pazhou, the Canton Fair was held right across the street. I imagine they are still paying huge rent for that location and would not expect any bargains there.

On the other hand, the Deyi Sauna sounds like an excellent find but I am wondering from your directions if it is the same place I go to. Does the road U-turn right on run along the lake?

OAH.

[QUOTE=Gao Xing; 1131864]Great! Please post a report if you do. Hope you also have a good experience.

By the way, there is another sauna / massage place right in front of the Dongfang Hotel. I've been there a couple times, but felt that the overall service at Deyi Sauna was better (especially for the service per cost ratio). I don't remember all the specifics, since it's been a few months, but in general:

DONGFANG HOTEL SAUNA.

* I don't recall the exact name, but it is directly in front of the Dongfang Hotel.

* From the street (Liuhua Road) , go down a long set of stairs to the main counter. Ask for the Japanese Massage.

* Enter the locker room / changing area to put on their sauna clothes. From there, you go into a restaurant / waiting relaxing area.

* All the services and drinks in the relaxation area are extra. I recommend the ear cleaning service, as there is nothing else like it. Pass on the massage, since you'll get a massage with the girl.

* Eventually, you'll be led by one of the sexy girls to a massage room. As I recall you get a halfway decent massage followed by an HJ.

* I also recall there are a whole bunch of extra charges, which makes it difficult to escape with less than 800 RMB.

Again, I haven't been there in a few months, and anyone who has been there recently should post a report. I think the experience is too pricey for what is offered. Essentially an expensive HJ. The new location I found at Deyi Sauna, and described below, is a much better detail. Yes, the facilities at Dongfang are cleaner and the girls seem to be a bit younger / sexier, but it's relatively expensive for just an HJ.

All reports welcomed! [/QUOTE]

Finally moved to San Mao from Blue Sky and was happier seeing quite a few non Chinese faces around the area. I asked my colleague who is Non Resident Chinese about the mongering scene and he recommended going to Dongguan. Last night I headed to MickyD and got two girls whispering if I needed "sex massage"! Well I never picked up from street in China and was little nervous but dealing with US LE while picking up SW gave me enough courage to start the negotiation.

First girl asked 400 but settled for 200. I was happy but she asked me to go to her room / office which I flatly refused. The second one agreed to come to my room for 200. She was 5'4", fair. Droopy boobs. Speaks broken english thanks to the client base I guess. Didn't ask her name and got to my room with the girl following me without any trouble. She asked money first but I insisted on paying after the service. She only asked for only 1 shot. It was really a good session as we used the bed, chair and standing position for a really log and slow session. Her attitude was nice and body gets 5 but the only turn off for me was the smelly poonani. But then again you can't expect all that you want from SW!

It seems the scene around MickyD is alive and quality is not so horrible!

I am a big fan of English Premier League and will be in Guangzhou for a weekend. Can anyone advise me which channel in Guangzhou carries their broadcast, so that I can check which hotel I should stay. I am happy with Chinese commentary too.

Just wanted to post an update to the original report by Wanderer [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2694[/url]

Was staying in Guanzhou Hotel few months back. (Average hotel. Stay in Business Room or Higher).

Went to Jun Kang Yue Spa Health Center which is in the same building and enquired about services offered. We were a group of 6 and were told that there were NO Extra services offered. However one of the guys who speaks fluent Cantonese started pushing in a friendly way. He said he was offered extras before and was a repeat customer. He was told to talk to the manager (a lady) and she finally agreed. He negotiated a group rate of RMB 550 all inclusive of Massage and Full service. We were given locker keys where we were asked to change to a towel and guided to a shower facility. After which we were asked to relax for snacks / drinks. The Spa does not seem to be maintained well. For example I would never step in their hot pool as it did not look clean.

20 minutes later Manager came guided us towards cabins. Considering the hotel is an average 3* hotel, I was not expecting much in terms of quality but was pleasantly surprised. The6 gurls waiting there were in range of 5/10 to 8/10 in looks and age group of approx 22 to 28. Although we were not given a choice, I was lucky to get one who was at least a 7 in the looks dept. The cabin was NOT transparent glass walls as reported earlier (maybe expansion or renovation). Instead of a massage first, the girl went straight down to business. She had a great attitude and started caressing me. She slipped on a condom and drank hot tea and went down on me with a slow BJ. The hot tea BJ is an old but a wonderful experience. I didn't want to come fast and pulled her up. She was responsive and let me work my tongue on her lovely breasts. In fact she seemed to love it and became super wet within 5 minutes. No qualms about changing positions and made me feel she was into it and enjoying as much as I was. After I came, she cleaned me up and started with a proper relaxing massage for 40 minutes. The session of CBJ + Full service followed by Massage lasted almost one and half hour and was not rushed at all. She did not ask for any tips and in fact I had to ask for her after I collected my wallet from my locker to give her a well deserved RMB 200 tip which she was extremely happy with.

Would I visit again? Not sure only because it was a bit smoky and not as clean as I would expect it to be. But service was top notch.

Thanks again to Wanderer for posting the original report and thought to post this update since that report is over 4 years old.

Jacher, Criss.

How was your time in Guangzhou, anything worth to report?

AF

[QUOTE=Asia Fan; 1140302]Jacher, Criss.

How was your time in Guangzhou, anything worth to report?

AF[/QUOTE]Hi All.

Our visit in Guangzhou was pretty quiet. After 4 days in CP with BSD we simply want to have some rest LOL.

But we visit 3 clubs (BABY FACE, KARMA, NEW ERA)

BABY FACE

In my opinion this is most similar to TANG. You can meet there WGs and at first day I take the one to hotel name Lisa. Pretty Chinese chick with quait big tits. She spoke little english and for night this pleasur cost me 800 RMB (but at the begining she want 1500 RMB) but about 3 pm club was closed by police and Lisa agree with my quota

We came to this club one more time and one more time at 3 p. Pm. Police close this club.

But still its pretty nice place to have fune meet with WG.

But prices for drinks are very high (100 RMB double whisky)

NEW ERA.

This club in my opinion was more hunting for freebies than catch the WG.

Lots of young people party there but I don't finda any WG.

But still we have nice time in Guangzhou but still its hard to compare with CP where with help of BSD we party hard (my report in Donguang section)

Jacher

[QUOTE=Jacher; 1140610].

In my opinion this is most similar to TANG. You can meet there WGs and at first day I take the one to hotel name Lisa. Pretty Chinese chick with quait big tits. She spoke little english and for night this pleasur cost me 800 RMB (but at the begining she want 1500 RMB) but about 3 pm club was closed by police and Lisa agree with my quota[/QUOTE]Hi Jacher, you must be a handsome young guy as I found Baby Face is not like Tang at all, not possible for an older asian man to find quality there. The bar is very small and the dance floor tiny. I went last night and the place was mostly locals who are mostly really young. I saw a couple of WGs near the bar but they stood out because they were old and fat, as the other girls there were all young and hot but all with some local boys. I saw quite a few foreign guys with English speaking girls but they were also rather average looking. Maybe I went the wrong night? In any case, it does not look like what Tang used to be at all to me. Maybe KAMA is the only place similar to the good old Tang but quality there really sucks.

Fillmore

Since the going rate is about 400LT for the most beautiful girl I've ever seen (300 for average) it seems like that girl saw you coming. Twice. LOL.

[QUOTE=Jacher; 1140610]Hi All.

Our visit in Guangzhou was pretty quiet. After 4 days in CP with BSD we simply want to have some rest LOL.

But we visit 3 clubs (BABY FACE, KARMA, NEW ERA)

BABY FACE

In my opinion this is most similar to TANG. You can meet there WGs and at first day I take the one to hotel name Lisa. Pretty Chinese chick with quait big tits. She spoke little english and for night this pleasur cost me 800 RMB (but at the begining she want 1500 RMB) but about 3 pm club was closed by police and Lisa agree with my quota

We came to this club one more time and one more time at 3 p. Pm. Police close this club.

But still its pretty nice place to have fune meet with WG.

But prices for drinks are very high (100 RMB double whisky)

NEW ERA.

This club in my opinion was more hunting for freebies than catch the WG.

Lots of young people party there but I don't finda any WG.

But still we have nice time in Guangzhou but still its hard to compare with CP where with help of BSD we party hard (my report in Donguang section)

Jacher[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ixgzca;1126096]I forgot to say YMMV! I'm rather young so the girls don't mind coming out with me. A few have told me they don't want to be seen out with older foreigners.[/QUOTE]What's considered old in the foreigner world? Also, I only speak english. Does that dramatically reduce my chances for fun with hotties?

[QUOTE=Jmelbourne;1141576]Since the going rate is about 400LT for the most beautiful girl I've ever seen (300 for average) it seems like that girl saw you coming. Twice. LOL.[/QUOTE]You are talking about Guangzhou? Where do you find ANY beautiful WG? I went around a few bars and saw only one acceptable and paid 300 to play drinking game with her and she flatly refuce to go home with me, at any price. So help me out guys, I just don't see anyway to get beautiful, or just young and thin WG in Guangzhou at all, unless going to sauna, which won't do me much good as I much prefer the bar or KTV to drink and play with the girls.

Well, looke I need to go to CP after all.

Fillmore

[QUOTE=Jmelbourne;1141576]Since the going rate is about 400LT for the most beautiful girl I've ever seen (300 for average) it seems like that girl saw you coming. Twice. LOL.[/QUOTE]My friend I'm foreginer but not stupid we pay 400 RMB 4 year ago but now the prices are higher. And we go to Guangzhou from CP and prices was similar for LT so maybe if I wasen't so drunk and have more option I will negotiat harder but in this case I pay and have fun.

Jacher

Hi Jacher.

I can believe you could feel exhausted after few days party in CP but, do you want to say you haven't tried any sauna or massage parlour?

AF

[QUOTE=Jmelbourne;1141576]Since the going rate is about 400LT for the most beautiful girl I've ever seen (300 for average) it seems like that girl saw you coming. Twice. LOL.[/QUOTE]So the most beautiful girl you have ever seen is 400 RMB LT, please do share where one might find this as I cannot even seem to FIND 400 RMB LT let alone from a beautiful girl. PM is enabled, if you don't feel like posting it!

Hi all,

I'll be in Guangzhou in a weeks time and will be mostly around the Canton Fair area since I'm going there to attend the fair.

I was wondering if anyone can suggest a place where I can get nice oily massage with full service. How much?

Thanks!

The other day I was at HSBC at Garden Hotel and talked to a guy from US, who has lived in Guangzhou for 3 years so I had to ask him if he knows of any bars that can be compared to Tang, and he said Nova Club might be the closest.

I have gone checked it out, and indeed, this place is certainly a new hunting ground. I did have a CP hottie with me so I just observed. The bar area is bigger and there is a slightly bigger dance space (not a floor, but a stage). The mix of the crowd was good, more international then typical Soho, Baby Face.

Fillmore

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1135596]Gao Xing,

On the other hand, the Deyi Sauna sounds like an excellent find but I am wondering from your directions if it is the same place I go to. Does the road U-turn right on run along the lake?

OAH. [/QUOTE]OAH: From Dongfang Hotel / Grand China Hotel, walk west on Liuhua Road and the first intersection is Renmin Road. Turn left here, and the Liuhua Lake is on your right. Panfu St where Deyi Sauna is located is only about 500 meters down Renmin Road, just before the Renmin Road viaduct begins. Does this sound like the same place?

Anyway, I had a few days in Guangzhou for a meeting and had a chance to go back and visit Miss 22 at Deyi. Seems she learned a few new tricks since last time, so service was even better. Not much in the way of real massage (of course) , but very nice BBBJ and took it all deep throat, ice & fire BJ, more AR, and a bit playing with ice over the body. No kissing (didn't try) , no DATY (maybe she would be into that, but as a rule I don't like to do this with sauna girls). Nipples were nice to suck on though.

I have a previous report on Deyi Sauna, and again, while she is not stunning in the looks department, I think she's a friendly and enthusiastic provider. In my experience that's usually the way. Service is inversely proportional to looks. Or, the corollary: The hotter the girl, the more likely she's a dead fish.

I've got a couple PMs from others looking for info on the sauna. If you've been there, please post a report.

[QUOTE=Gao Xing;1143179]OAH: From Dongfang Hotel / Grand China Hotel, walk west on Liuhua Road and the first intersection is Renmin Road. Turn left here, and the Liuhua Lake is on your right. Panfu St where Deyi Sauna is located is only about 500 meters down Renmin Road, just before the Renmin Road viaduct begins. Does this sound like the same place?[/QUOTE]Gao Xing,

I think it is the same place. It sits right on the road. The outside is Roman architecture? Parking is underneath the building with access on the right side of the building down a small hill?

The place has been there for many years, opened and closed. It used to be a very nice place years ago but only offered a happy ending in those days. Many punters would use it for overnight accomodation instead of a hotel. The hardware has gone to shit in recent years under new management but FS became available.

I will try to swing by there this week to have another look to make sure.

OAH

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1143362]Gao Xing,

I think it is the same place. It sits right on the road. The outside is Roman architecture? Parking is underneath the building with access on the right side of the building down a small hill?

The place has been there for many years, opened and closed. It used to be a very nice place years ago but only offered a happy ending in those days. Many punters would use it for overnight accomodation instead of a hotel. The hardware has gone to shit in recent years under new management but FS became available.

I will try to swing by there this week to have another look to make sure.

OAH[/QUOTE]OAH: Hmm, I think it's a different place. No hill or Roman-style architecture. Deyi Sauna on the left side of the road as you walk east on Panyu Road from Renmin Road (away from the lake). In fact, there is nothing special about the architecture. A podium is set up on the sidewalk where a greeter usually stands. When you enter the building, walk down a couple of steps into the main lobby. I hope the directions in my previous reports make it easy to find the Deyi Sauna. If you do find it, please let me know if it's the same place. Or if the one you describe is one still worth visiting.

Hi there I will be attending the Canton Fair at the end of April, and will staying at the Crown Plaz City Centre.

Any body that can tell me where is a nice sauna or massage that offers FH or BJ ect. Any help will be appreciated thanks for your help, Peter Pan

[QUOTE=PeterPan69; 1143912]Hi there I will be attending the Canton Fair at the end of April, and will staying at the Crown Plaz City Centre.

Any body that can tell me where is a nice sauna or massage that offers FH or BJ ect. Any help will be appreciated thanks for your help, Peter Pan[/QUOTE]Peter Pan,

There are no saunas and massage places in Guangzhou that operate during the Canton Fair. If you RTFF, you would know that.

Just my POV,

OAH

[QUOTE=PeterPan69; 1143912]Hi there I will be attending the Canton Fair at the end of April, and will staying at the Crown Plaz City Centre.

Any body that can tell me where is a nice sauna or massage that offers FH or BJ ect. Any help will be appreciated thanks for your help, Peter Pan[/QUOTE]To peter pan.

I will also be attending the canton fair in next week but I am staying in CP just 40 min by train to Guangzhou just your day time at the fair and return to CP at night for action, much cheaper hotel and more sauna, KTV and bbs for actions.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1143962]Peter Pan,

There are no saunas and massage places in Guangzhou that operate during the Canton Fair. If you RTFF, you would know that.

Just my POV,

OAH[/QUOTE]Maybe someone will call it annoying. But I have to second this again (as in 2010). Canton fair is for me a non-go to Guangzhou.

I try to avoid to come to Guangzhou during such periods. Beijing and other provinces are much places for us during Canton fair. If you have to visit the Canton fair (and this isn't the best place for good business anymore. Just IMHO) , then go there for business, not for fun. And give some other regions a try, before you leave.

After going through many bars, I found Gypsy King and Cave Bar are still the simplest for someone who is no longer young and handsome. WGs in these two places are rather obvious. KAMA too, but I found KAMA having wall to wall of these fat and ugly foreign WGs that really made the place that much less appealling. If you prefer Chinese WGs, and want to be able to pick one up quickly, Gypsy King and Cave Bar would be your best bet, IMHO.

Fillmore

Any action near east railway station?

Could you please give address of gypsy king and cave bar address

TNT.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1144660]After going through many bars, I found Gypsy King and Cave Bar are still the simplest for someone who is no longer young and handsome. WGs in these two places are rather obvious. KAMA too, but I found KAMA having wall to wall of these fat and ugly foreign WGs that really made the place that much less appealling. If you prefer Chinese WGs, and want to be able to pick one up quickly, Gypsy King and Cave Bar would be your best bet, IMHO.

Fillmore[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Topmanten; 1144854]Any action near east railway station?

Could you please give address of gypsy king and cave bar address

TNT. [/QUOTE]I only go to bars, and definitely nothing near the train station. As for addresses, please just google.

Fillmore

Is this the best way to Macau I'm thinking? Any suggestions all?

Thanks,

PC out

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1145260]Is this the best way to Macau I'm thinking? Any suggestions all?

Thanks,

PC out[/QUOTE]It depends on where you are. If you are inside Guangzhou, just take a bus from any of the major hotels. For example Garden Hotel you can get on a bus to Macau easily, it takes about 2. 5 hours.

Fillmore

Just opp to Guangzhou east railway station, # 9 spa club, centre plaza 4th to 7th floor.

Japanese oil massage for 90 min is excellent, HJ is part of the deal for 470 rmb.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1144883]I only go to bars, and definitely nothing near the train station. As for addresses, please just google.

Fillmore[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Topmanten; 1145992]Just opp to Guangzhou east railway station, # 9 spa club, centre plaza 4th to 7th floor.

Japanese oil massage for 90 min is excellent, HJ is part of the deal for 470 rmb. [/QUOTE]Are you able to precize the location? Maybe some adress or street at least.

AF

Hey guys,

I am in Guangzhou for a couple of days on a sudden visit! Went trough the forum guys but I got really little time online since I am on the road most of the day! Please tell me if there is any action available after like 1130pm near the riverside! I am right at landmark hotel so any good options available please let me know! I got a couple of escort company numbers but not too keen to try them here since I am with some others here. Please help me out guys (if there is any help to give.) thanks a lot. BTW thw sws seem quite terrible. Is this always the case?

Also please help as to how much I should be paying. Even no FS is fine just BJ and msg is great!

Thanks a lot guys, will definitely hook you up if you come to my side of the globe!

Thanks Fast Eddie 48 but I have allready booked ect. Next year I will look at that, in the meanwhile anything available during Canton Fair time at any hotel?

Two years ago I visit a massage place behind the Bai Yun Hotel. Is this still there any other hotel that anyone can help me with, thanks for everyones advice John.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1144058]To peter pan.

I will also be attending the canton fair in next week but I am staying in CP just 40 min by train to Guangzhou just your day time at the fair and return to CP at night for action, much cheaper hotel and more sauna, KTV and bbs for actions.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]

Hi Solo Can you tell me if this service is also available during Canton fair.

Let me know Thanks a lot.

[QUOTE=Flying Solo; 1083435]You can get the same service for 298rmb, Ming Hong Hotel Xicun.

Pm me if you help.

Cheers,

Solo[/QUOTE]

Take exit be, then turn right with in 20 mtr you can see steps- lift of center plaza, go to 4th floor.

[QUOTE=Asia Fan; 1146014]Are you able to precize the location? Maybe some adress or street at least.

AF[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Topmanten;1146423]Take exit be, then turn right with in 20 mtr you can see steps- lift of center plaza, go to 4th floor.[/QUOTE]Got it. Thanks a lot.

AF

Massage with full service is always available in bai yun hotel. On the cheaper side I found atleast 5 bbs / massagae centres with HJ around garden hotel area at 150 rmb. One near kfc, one at lui lu and atleast three in the back side lane near the golden kitchen restourant. Tried two of them and got quite good service at the one near kfc. 80 rmb to the counter and 70 to the gal. Contact available through pm. Cheers

[QUOTE=PeterPan69; 1146417]Thanks Fast Eddie 48 but I have allready booked ect. Next year I will look at that, in the meanwhile anything available during Canton Fair time at any hotel?

Two years ago I visit a massage place behind the Bai Yun Hotel. Is this still there any other hotel that anyone can help me with, thanks for everyones advice John. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PrinceMV2;1146453]Massage with full service is always available in bai yun hotel. On the cheaper side I found atleast 5 bbs / massagae centres with HJ around garden hotel area at 150 rmb. One near kfc, one at lui lu and atleast three in the back side lane near the golden kitchen restourant. Tried two of them and got quite good service at the one near kfc. 80 rmb to the counter and 70 to the gal. Contact available through pm. Cheers[/QUOTE]Hey man any chance of hooking me up with some details? I am stayin at the landmak in canton and will be there again from sat onwards! Please let me know any recs man mainly after 1130pm since I am usually blocked up till then! No idea about anything here man and because of the language gap its even harder to find out info! Please hook me up bro with some quality because I have seen some options but all are horrid (sws)

Thanks a ton!

Gentleman,

In Guangzhou for another day, anything in this area? I'm at the Shangde Hotel near the Subway. Any suggestions are appreciated as I don't know this city that well.

PC out

Hi Prince I also tried you PM but they say it full. Can you maybe give more details ect where we can go during this period as it looks like everything is closed. Any help please thanks Peter

Dear friends,

I will be in guangzhou on businesstrip soon, my company booked the ocean hotel for me.

In their webpage they mention have a sauna & massage.

Can anyone tell me more about this hotel, their service and what is in the surrounding area?

Thank so much.

Promise to report back.

Thomas Jefferson

[QUOTE=Thomas Jefferson; 1147179]Dear friends,

I will be in guangzhou on businesstrip soon, my company booked the ocean hotel for me.

In their webpage they mention have a sauna & massage.

Can anyone tell me more about this hotel, their service and what is in the surrounding area?

Thank so much.

Promise to report back.

Thomas Jefferson[/QUOTE]Hi.

It is good hotel with very nice sauna but pricey. FS available and cost 900.

AF

I just arrived here and tied a few massage places like the one at Guanghou Hotel as well as the Bai yun Hotel but everywhere they say. No sexy massage.

Anyone know where we will get this type of massage during the Canton time.

Also any idea where is the BBS places close to the Garden hotel? Any help will be appreciated Thanks guys.

PeterPan

[QUOTE=PeterPan69; 1147842]I just arrived here and tied a few massage places like the one at Guanghou Hotel as well as the Bai yun Hotel but everywhere they say. No sexy massage.

Anyone know where we will get this type of massage during the Canton time.

Also any idea where is the BBS places close to the Garden hotel? Any help will be appreciated Thanks guys.

PeterPan[/QUOTE]Have you tried the bars around Garden Hotels? Gypsy King, Cave Bar etc, as I had posted just a few posts ago.

Fillmore

Hello, All,

Been following the posts here. Looks like I'm going to Guangzhou@the wrong time tonight due to the Canton Fair happening! I'm an ABC (American Born Chinese) , and speak Mandarin. So I could pass for a fairly young local guy. Staying@the Garden Hotel, and looking for easy FS in a massage parlor / sauna, as I don't want to bring any WG's back to hotel. Also don't want to play any "games" at the local bars / clubs. Rather get down to business! I don't mind paying for better quality.

So looks like the top choice is the sauna@the Ocean Hotel? Or the Deyi Sauna? Any other recommendations would be much appreciated, and I'd love to reciprocate suggestions if anyone ever finds their way to NYC! Thanks!

I went to this Recreational Hotel to overnight before I leave for Macau tomorrow. So I ask for the 90 min Thai massage. Technician was way too cute and wore a skirt of sorts. Anyway, massage begins and we are chatting about alot of things. I casually start touching and feeling her feet, ankles, and legs while making comments on how cute she is and how smooth her skin is.

As things moved along she gives me a nice back walk and then sits alongside me to massage my thighs. She is occassionally brushing the boys and I'm coming to attention, LOL She notices this too and I move farther and farther up her inner thighs as well commenting on how good of a massage I can give her. I reach the private zone soon enough and she says your not suppose to do that! I kinda acknowledgw her at the same time but ignoring her and still pressing onward. The initial 90 mins were almost up so I asked if we could extend it another 90 mins and she said no problem. BTW, she also makes more money this way as well which was a bonus for her and a nice thing I could do for her. So it was definantly a win win situation. I asked if we could move to a more private room further back. She said we could.

We then moved to a massage room farther in the back of the place and more private. After the move, things began to heat up more, the shorts I had came off. She began to stroke PC jr and I was real happy, LOL I began to stroke her meimei more and more and she was just getting so wet that it was seeping through her panties.

I moved them aside alittle more and god was she wet! She kept telling she couldn't come for me but I persuaded her to just relax. She was still stroking me slowly and about 20 mins later I came all over her hands and she gave me a big smile. I told to her to keep going until she squeezed out the last drop. She complied happily.

I told her that will come back when I return in Sept and take her out to dinner and then a good all night fuck session and she giggled. Got the digits and will do just that next time in Guangzhou. It was a good and relaxing night for sure.

PC out

Sounds like you had a grand time! If you don't mind sharing, what's the name of this "Recreational Hotel?" Or, is that the name? PM me if you'd rather not share in public. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1148048]I went to this Recreational Hotel to overnight before I leave for Macau tomorrow. So I ask for the 90 min Thai massage. Technician was way too cute and wore a skirt of sorts. Anyway, massage begins and we are chatting about alot of things. I casually start touching and feeling her feet, ankles, and legs while making comments on how cute she is and how smooth her skin is.

As things moved along she gives me a nice back walk and then sits alongside me to massage my thighs. She is occassionally brushing the boys and I'm coming to attention, LOL She notices this too and I move farther and farther up her inner thighs as well commenting on how good of a massage I can give her. I reach the private zone soon enough and she says your not suppose to do that! I kinda acknowledgw her at the same time but ignoring her and still pressing onward. The initial 90 mins were almost up so I asked if we could extend it another 90 mins and she said no problem. BTW, she also makes more money this way as well which was a bonus for her and a nice thing I could do for her. So it was definantly a win win situation. I asked if we could move to a more private room further back. She said we could.

We then moved to a massage room farther in the back of the place and more private. After the move, things began to heat up more, the shorts I had came off. She began to stroke PC jr and I was real happy, LOL I began to stroke her meimei more and more and she was just getting so wet that it was seeping through her panties.

I moved them aside alittle more and god was she wet! She kept telling she couldn't come for me but I persuaded her to just relax. She was still stroking me slowly and about 20 mins later I came all over her hands and she gave me a big smile. I told to her to keep going until she squeezed out the last drop. She complied happily.

I told her that will come back when I return in Sept and take her out to dinner and then a good all night fuck session and she giggled. Got the digits and will do just that next time in Guangzhou. It was a good and relaxing night for sure.

PC out[/QUOTE]

Hi all,

Any good suggestions near President Hotel (Gangding) area? I'm looking more for a massage type thing that goes right to FS business. I don't mind paying a bit more but nothing too crazy. It's more for a relaxation thing after walking the whole day at the fairs and trade shows. Any particular place that is overseas Chinese friendly? I'm similar to Ducati168 but Canadian. Can speak but not local. I know back home Asian girls don't prefer Asian clients due to the small community.

I don't taking the MTR either as long as it's close. Nothing that requires too many stops or line changes.

Thanks a bunch! Cheers!

Just had the nicest experience in the city. As a long term resident, I feel a bit ashamed for me and for us all, nobody ever found the place I stumbled upon tonight, or so it seems, since it's absent from anyone's reports.

A few days ago I went to a sauna that had 300rmb 2pops, but it was closed, no explaination given by anyone there, but it was quite an old hotel and sauna, so fuck it. Alas, little brother was still in need of a fix. Today then. The internetz helped. Google reminded me of an old acquaintance, gzsangna. Com, where I found a post that reviewed 2 saunas, one in haizhu district and one in fangcun. The fangcun one is the place I'm talking about, and I went there for the promise of a "VIP room": the name made me think of a room with shower, something I have never seen here in Guangzhou.

Well. The shower was there. Small but nice room, apparently clean, private sauna too.

The deal? 468rmb. 2 pops (not 1 pop + HJ but 2 real pops in the Y) .100 minutes available, free drinks and free food. No hidden charges, except the 10rmb shorts (they have free ones too) and the tip to the guys in the locker rooms.

I met a nice 23 year old girl (fake tits, but nice butt and face) , enthusiastic attitude and nice service. No CIM though, and she said no one does that there (to be verified). We chatted for about 1 hour, she grew up in an orphanage and moved to the city about one year ago, poor girl, I felt like shit. Anyway, the weirdest thing is SHE CAN'T READ O_o. I have never met a completely illiterate Chinese, but she said that in the orphanage they did not have any school :/

Anyhow, after the very good deal, I slacked a bit in the common room sipping drinks and dining with a decent serving of noodles. Right there I also discovered that if I booked in advance I could have saved 30 rmb.

Chatting with one of the "managers", I asked here how came that they stayed open while so many places were closing down, and she replied that the owner has good relationships with the local government and the police. Meaning: he knows who to pay to stay in business :P.

So, the damage was 468+10 (shorts) +15 (tip) for 2 pops. Drinks, food.

For reference. Fare by taxi from area around Garden Hotel is about 45 rmb.

Now, I'm not naming the place publicly. I'm not a member, but I guess I can reply to PMs if you message me, right. I'll be happy to share this place privately.

[QUOTE=Bloated;1148859]Now, I'm not naming the place publicly. I'm not a member, but I guess I can reply to PMs if you message me, right. I'll be happy to share this place privately.[/QUOTE]Good job, man, it is absolutely essential that we don't give out the details to the LE. There is a good reason ISG remained unblocked in China.

Fillmore

[QUOTE=Bloated;1148859]I'm not a member, but I guess I can reply to PMs if you message me, right. I'll be happy to share this place privately.[/QUOTE]Nope. PM in and out is for paying members only

[QUOTE=Bloated; 1148859]Just had the nicest experience in the city. As a long term resident, I feel a bit ashamed for me and for us all, nobody ever found the place I stumbled upon tonight, or so it seems, since it's absent from anyone's reports.

The deal? 468rmb. 2 pops (not 1 pop + HJ but 2 real pops in the Y).100 minutes available, free drinks and free food. No hidden charges, except the 10rmb shorts (they have free ones too) and the tip to the guys in the locker rooms.

For reference. Fare by taxi from area around Garden Hotel is about 45 rmb. [/QUOTE]Please get a membership so we can PM you. This seems like a great find. BTW Was it a fairly clean place, big or small, easy or hard to find. Try to give us some more info.

Fisholio

I will be heading back to Panyu in a couple weeks. During my previous trips I have tried the massage place at the Panyu Hotel, which I was not terribly impressed with. This area does not get very much discussion, any ideas?

Jst sent you no. Of 150 rmb massage and HJ girl. Will be in Guangzhou around 6th may. Cheers.

[QUOTE=PeterPan69;1147137]Hi Prince I also tried you PM but they say it full. Can you maybe give more details ect where we can go during this period as it looks like everything is closed. Any help please thanks Peter[/QUOTE]

Sent you pm dear. Will be in Guangzhou around 6th may. Tc.

[QUOTE=Danny Yu; 1146908]Hey man any chance of hooking me up with some details? I am stayin at the landmak in canton and will be there again from sat onwards! Please let me know any recs man mainly after 1130pm since I am usually blocked up till then! No idea about anything here man and because of the language gap its even harder to find out info! Please hook me up bro with some quality because I have seen some options but all are horrid (sws)

Thanks a ton![/QUOTE]

Hi all,

I was recently in Guangzhou for the canton fair & stayed at Guangdong Victory Hotel.

My sumup for this place would be.

- A 4* category hotel.

- Monger Friendly Bell Boys, who can even arrange girl in your room. (although I dint try)

- Access to girls in the Salon at the reception area. After 8 Pm, you find a few who might provide FS too.

- Access to Yo Long Sauna, in the basement of hotel, where you can except a very ordinary massage with FS. For around 550-600 RMB.

The service in Sauna is mediocre but if you insist on your clear intentions & exact service that you need, you will be guided to the right gal.

I went along with a friend on mine & we were randomly alloted two girls.

The girls start massaging you (without any Oil & with just a towel on) & soon reach to core areas to excite you (within 10 min). I resisted the tempation & insisted on usage of oil, which ofcourse was very difficult to explain her as I don't speak Chinese. Anyway. The summary was that I had a good breast body massage with oral & FS.

Before FS, she started asking 800 RMB & settled for 300.

My friend did not have a great experience & complained to the manager lady. Who apologised.

A Couple of days later, when we went again, we were shown 15 girls, but I aksed the lady manager to choose the best service provoder for me & my friend the chose the one who I took in the previous session.

We both had a good 60 min time.

Total damage. 550 x 2 + 20 RMB tips.

I would recommend this place to all who need Sauna + FS experience.

Take Care

Hi,

Does anyone have any input on the Carat Spa Hotel in Guangzhou? Its supposedly a new hotel with a good spa & sauna.

I am not sure of the services they provide.

I will be statying there in next week & any inputs would be highly appreciated.

Will later pool in my comments too.

Take Care.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1148980]Nope. PM in and out is for paying members only[/QUOTE]Also, if your a Sr Member that contributes and if Jackson likes you as well.

PC out

[QUOTE=Tricycle;1150080]I will be heading back to Panyu in a couple weeks. During my previous trips I have tried the massage place at the Panyu Hotel, which I was not terribly impressed with. This area does not get very much discussion, any ideas?[/QUOTE]Tricycle,

The options in Panyu are limited nowadays. Never really recovered from the Asian Games crackdown. That said, there is always KTV for 1, 000 RMB ST. The one in the Sichang Hotel is reputed to have the biggest and best selection in town. For sauna, the operators are pretty cautious about offering FS. You can try the one next to the Sichang Hotel. They offer massage with HE for 183 (clothes on) , or tit massage HE for 263 (clothes off). Don't expect much of a massage. For 398, you can have 2 girls. You can get FS if you play your cards right. They have other girls for FS and use the hotel rooms apart from the sauna itself. However, the selection and quality leave something to be desired. Damage is 600 RMB. A bit pricey IMHO for what you can get. Just my POV.

OAH

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1150725]Tricycle,

The options in Panyu are limited nowadays. Never really recovered from the Asian Games crackdown. That said, there is always KTV for 1, 000 RMB ST. The one in the Sichang Hotel is reputed to have the biggest and best selection in town. .

OAH[/QUOTE]Hi OAH, looks like KTV in Panyu are just slightly higher priced thenCP? I am guessing 3-10-12 in Sichang Hotel? DJ also 200 plus the room and no other charges? If I am not staying overnight in CP, I might choose to just taxi from Guangzhou to KTV in Panyu so if you can provide more info, would be great.

Fillmore

I will be staying in Marriott China Hotel in a couple of weeks. Any one have suggestion for good, not too expensive, FS massage nearby? Have never been successful in Guangzhou but found decent place in CP very near train station. Any suggestions for Guangzhou near Marriott will be greatly appreciated.

I'm here for the Canton Fair and got a hotel approximately 7 minutes by taxi. This is my first time at the fair and I've been doing alot of research to keep my nights busy. I've so far been to one Japanese hostess bar nearby the Garden Hotel, one Sauna in the Haizhu area and had one outcall service from a card received from someone outside the fair.

Breakdown in costs:

580rmb for a bottle of 12yr old Macallan and 200rmb tip for the pretty 5'8" girl sitting pretty next to me. I don't speak japanese nor do I speak mandarin but I guess the body language was enough. Didn't get anywhere with the girl at the end of the night though. = (

38rmb for a much needed foot massage which lasted a good 45 minutes and 100rmb for a great HJ with a very vocal performance and lots of touching (by me) of different parts of the body. The girl was stacked, thin, and pretty. My rating is a 7/10 for her looks. Total price was only 138rmb. I think it was a steal but the neighborhood and establishment wasn't the cleanest or best.

500rmb for an outcall service. I'm waiting for her as I submit this thread. Hope she's a good one. I'll leave more details on the service afterwards.

I have to admit though, I'm still hella bored being here by myself. Hope I can meet up with some of you guys out there and party somewhere. I still have half a bottle left at the Japanese hostess bar if you guys want to meet up and get a few drinks.

[QUOTE=Al1234;1151463]I will be staying in Marriott China Hotel in a couple of weeks. Any one have suggestion for good, not too expensive, FS massage nearby?[/QUOTE]You only have to go to page 6 of the forum to read my report on Deyi Sauna, very close to the Marriott China Hotel. With that info in hand, please add to the forum and post a report if you go.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?941-South-China-Guangzhou&p=1131523&highlight=sauna#post1131523[/url]

Hand jobs aren't my idea of fun but certainly available at Zhong Fa hotel close to main railway station (just follow the road next to Macdonalds opposite Guangzhou main railway station and it shows up on Google maps at maximum res). FS may be available. Different service girls have different clothes. After spotting one in a micro mini hitching up her tights in the corridor, my guess is that its available. Didn't have time to go back and check.

There's an Irish pub behind Garden Hotel where there are FS africans. Just went for a beer as I have an early flight. Girl was making eyes at me so I called her over. From South Africa, lives in Hong Kong, no visa required for Hong Kong but has to go out from time to time. Said she was looking for customers, so I said better to return to her table as I needed my sleep and she'd never get into my hotel anyway. (In spite of visiting hours being up to 12 midnight, security hauled a girl out of one guy's room one afternoon). A while later she called me over and said lets have a drink together anyway. I asked how much she got in Guangzhou and she said same as in Hong Kong, so I'd guess about 1000rmb, possibly more, but that she'd occasionally reduce her price if she really felt someone couldn't afford it. As its Canton Fair time I originally thought that she might be visiting the fair, but realised that the other African girls in the bar (half a dozen of them) were probably also on the game but a little more circumspect about making eye contact. Also spotted a couple of Chinese girls floating around.

Had a freebie with one of my suppliers reps (she's been flirting with me online for a couple of years. More so of late. After my first dinner with her I went to kiss her on the cheek, but she backed away, so I thought I'd misread her flirtations, but a couple of days later she called and said she wanted to have another dinner with me. I had no idea why until she suggested we go back to her apartment for coffee) so wasn't really looking, but it certainly looked to me like p4p is still available if not as easily as before the Asian games.

[QUOTE=Gao Xing; 1151513]You only have to go to page 6 of the forum to read my report on Deyi Sauna, very close to the Marriott China Hotel. With that info in hand, please add to the forum and post a report if you go.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?941-South-China-Guangzhou&p=1131523&highlight=sauna#post1131523[/url][/QUOTE]When I was in Guangzhou two weeks ago, I called the place and they said they only have Chinese massage for RMB 68 per hour. I guess that was because of Canton Fair and LE activities. Are things back to normal?

Such a pity that you cannot share the information in a "secured" way! This is an interesting discovery!

[QUOTE=Bloated; 1148859]Just had the nicest experience in the city. As a long term resident, I feel a bit ashamed for me and for us all, nobody ever found the place I stumbled upon tonight, or so it seems, since it's absent from anyone's reports.

A few days ago I went to a sauna that had 300rmb 2pops, but it was closed, no explaination given by anyone there, but it was quite an old hotel and sauna, so fuck it. Alas, little brother was still in need of a fix. Today then. The internetz helped. Google reminded me of an old acquaintance, gzsangna. Com, where I found a post that reviewed 2 saunas, one in haizhu district and one in fangcun. The fangcun one is the place I'm talking about, and I went there for the promise of a "VIP room": the name made me think of a room with shower, something I have never seen here in Guangzhou.

Well. The shower was there. Small but nice room, apparently clean, private sauna too.

The deal? 468rmb. 2 pops (not 1 pop + HJ but 2 real pops in the Y).100 minutes available, free drinks and free food. No hidden charges, except the 10rmb shorts (they have free ones too) and the tip to the guys in the locker rooms.

I met a nice 23 year old girl (fake tits, but nice butt and face) , enthusiastic attitude and nice service. No CIM though, and she said no one does that there (to be verified). We chatted for about 1 hour, she grew up in an orphanage and moved to the city about one year ago, poor girl, I felt like shit. Anyway, the weirdest thing is SHE CAN'T READ O_o. I have never met a completely illiterate Chinese, but she said that in the orphanage they did not have any school :/

Anyhow, after the very good deal, I slacked a bit in the common room sipping drinks and dining with a decent serving of noodles. Right there I also discovered that if I booked in advance I could have saved 30 rmb.

Chatting with one of the "managers", I asked here how came that they stayed open while so many places were closing down, and she replied that the owner has good relationships with the local government and the police. Meaning: he knows who to pay to stay in business :P.

So, the damage was 468+10 (shorts) +15 (tip) for 2 pops. Drinks, food.

For reference. Fare by taxi from area around Garden Hotel is about 45 rmb.

Now, I'm not naming the place publicly. I'm not a member, but I guess I can reply to PMs if you message me, right. I'll be happy to share this place privately. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sniffer;1152058]When I was in Guangzhou two weeks ago, I called the place and they said they only have Chinese massage for RMB 68 per hour. I guess that was because of Canton Fair and LE activities. Are things back to normal?[/QUOTE]Good point, last time I was there, it was not during the Fair. A couple things could be going on. One is that other services are not available now. The second is that they may be more conservative in what they say to people who call on the phone. The code word on the menu at the sauna is "Thai Massage", which is what you want to ask for. Perhaps you could call and ask if they still offer Thai Massage right now. (Is the Fair still going on? I don't know.) Otherwise, swing by and take a look. More options may be given to someone who shows up in person. Good luck and file a report!

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1150908]Hi OAH, looks like KTV in Panyu are just slightly higher priced thenCP? I am guessing 3-10-12 in Sichang Hotel? DJ also 200 plus the room and no other charges? If I am not staying overnight in CP, I might choose to just taxi from Guangzhou to KTV in Panyu so if you can provide more info, would be great.

Fillmore[/QUOTE]Fillmore,

Sorry for the delayed reply. I don't get on here as often as I used to. Next time, send me a PM. I check those more often.

I am not a big KTV fan so I am not sure about all of the costs since I am not a regular customer at Sichang. I've only been there a couple of times and was invited by a BSD so did not pay anything except for my girl. I am not certain but I think it was 3-10-15, but in some cases LT was not on offer. I just went for ST anyway. You can also pick girls from a line-up and take them out for 1, 000 RMB ST without booking a room. I did this once awhile back because there was another girl I had to have when I was there with the BSD but she was a regular girl of one guy in the party.

Just my POV.

OAH

[QUOTE=Gao Xing;1152749]Good point, last time I was there, it was not during the Fair. A couple things could be going on. One is that other services are not available now. The second is that they may be more conservative in what they say to people who call on the phone. The code word on the menu at the sauna is "Thai Massage", which is what you want to ask for. Perhaps you could call and ask if they still offer Thai Massage right now. (Is the Fair still going on? I don't know.) Otherwise, swing by and take a look. More options may be given to someone who shows up in person. Good luck and file a report![/QUOTE]When I called last time, I did ask specifically for the "Thai Massage", in Putonghua. But the girl who answered the call said they ONLY had Chinese massage. I did not bother swinging by because it was quite late at night and I was pretty tired.

I thought about trying this past week when I was in Guangzhou again. But my "freebie" girlfriend has come to spend time with me. So I had passed. This past week was the very last period of the Fair, but the exhibition was in Pa Zhou. So the "Thai Massage" might have been available.

I would definitely give that a try on my next trip.

[QUOTE=Sniffer;1152061]Such a pity that you cannot share the information in a "secured" way! This is an interesting discovery![/QUOTE]I have taught in Guangdong for a college for 2 years but as of November I am now in Nanjing working. I do have many friends in Guangdong area and I know Huadu, Shenzhen, Duangguan, and other.

I would like to get that places address and I am in Guangzhou now and would like to check this place out.

My 159208566767 or email [email]kendare_99@yahoo.com[/email]

Thanks,

Ken

Hi everyone,

I will be in guangzhou next week for couple days depends on my company. Is there any good place to go such as a pickup bars?

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Smith Ed; 1154013]Hi everyone,

I will be in guangzhou next week for couple days depends on my company. Is there any good place to go such as a pickup bars?

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Smith Ed,

Have you read any of the posts on this thread at all?

OAH

There hasn't been any postings in Guangzhou for the last few days, so here is a post from a few days ago orginally posted on another forum. I hope it's not against protocol to repost it here. I followed up on some reports in 2008 on full service saunas out in Huadu.

OVERVIEW:

Acceptable Thai-style and oil massage by cute and friendly masseuse with HE in older facilities showing their wear-and-tear.

ADDRESS:

Gao Qu Relaxation Centre (020) 3619 7269.

No. 43 Xiuquan Road (south building of New Century Hotel)

Huadu District, Guangzhou.

DETAILS:

I had a stay recently at the Guangzhou Baiyun Airport, and decided to go do some exploring in the nearby town of Huadu. Through research I found the names of a couple FS saunas and decided to go check one out. However, the reports were all quite old, all from about 2008 or so. I was fully aware that FS may no longer be available (which turned out was the case) , but purely in the interest of science and keeping these boards up-to-date I thought I would go out and see for myself!

From the Airport, the taxi refused to take me to Huadu because it's too close. The driver said he didn't know the place I wanted to go, but I call BS. Regardless, no problem. The taxi manager said it's better to take Airport Express Bus 9 to Huadu, which stops at a number of hotels. The line ends up at the bus terminal / Guangzhou North rail station, where there is also reported to be barbershops, massage places, etc. Today's mission was to find the Lao Fu Zi Sauna next to the New Century Hotel. A couple reports from 2008/9 indicated this is a good FS sauna, and as luck has it, Bus 9 has a stop at the hotel. The cost is 8 RMB one way (exact change). Note my return taxi fare was 53 RMB!

Along the way, the bus passes by a number of large hotels, including a Crowne Plaza still under construction. Other reports indicate that the HJ Grand Hotel has a good sauna, which I could see on the left side of the hotel. After about 25 minutes, we stopped in front of the New Century Hotel. When facing the hotel from the street, walk on the street to the immediate right of the hotel. The sauna is at the back of the building on the right (see the google map link above).

First thing is that the sauna is no longer called Lao Fu Zi. The directions by previous reports lead to a place now called the Gao Qu Relaxation Centre, although I prefer the translation on their business card: High Interest Recreation Council. The card also confirms that this is the right place: formerly Lao Fu Zi (or,"formerly the old guy in sauna". Somehow I'm glad I missed having an old guy in the sauna!)

After walking in, I was asked what kind of massage I wanted by the desk clerk. The most expensive option was the Thai massage for 168 RMB / 90 minutes. Though the price seemed low, I know that Thai massage is code for FS at other saunas I've been to in Guangzhou. I asked for that and headed upstairs to wash up. The facilities are kind of dingy and showing their age. The routine was standard here. Towel guy helps you put your clothes away in the locker, head over to the shower (which was clean enough) , put on the standard sauna wear or shell out 10 RMB for the VIP ones, then go to the relaxation room. While there were pools in the shower area, all of them were empty.

Not much going on in the early afternoon, so I sat for a bit, had some green tea and chatted with the female captain in Chinese. After a bit, she asked if I wanted the massage and led me to a large massage room. The room had a large bed and massage table with huge, old style TV in the room. No shower, though. After a couple minutes, Miss Yan walked in talking on her mobile phone. Minus points here for service. It took a few minutes to finish the conversation and turn her attention (finally) to me. She was done up in a sailor-type outfit with short skirt, a little too much makeup, but cute and long legs despite her shorter frame.

Once we got to chatting in Chinese, she became very friendly and laughed a lot. She asked if I would like an oil massage, and explained the oil would be 30 RMB extra. It would also be much more "comfortable". No problems there, although after getting the oil she gave a dry, Thai-style massage. I've had real Thai massages, and this wasn't quite it, but she did make some of those moves where you get bended into a pretzel. After about an hour, she asked if I would be interested to extend into another session. We had been chatting, and I didn't have anywhere I needed to be, so I said okay.

A couple things tipped me off to the fact that this would not be FS. First, there was a window on the door, and she did not cover it up with a robe or towel. You couldn't see straight into the bed from the hall, but still. Also, during the massage, there were a couple knocks on the door for the masseuse. (I got the feeling she is managing some things, as she did have to leave for a couple minutes at one point to bring a girl over to another client? Kind of strange.)

During the Thai massage there was some massaging and brushing against DD to keep the spirits up. Quite nice overall. Of course, the oil part of the massage was much better, and more comfortable, as promised. It started with me facing down, with her using her hands in a very arousing way. Once I flipped over, she sat next to me, and it was easy to touch her body, although there was no taking off of her clothes. She also leaned down for some kisses (not DFK, though) , and it was great to hear her breathing and hold her close. She seemed to be into it, especially when I was touching her. She also said she enjoyed the session because she could talk to me in Chinese. Anyway, the massage lased a long time, and the release was honestly one of the best I've ever had for an oily HJ session.

After, we had some time, and she cleaned me up, gave me a little more massage. Then we chatted and she showed me some pics on her phone before leading me to the showers. I did one of those ear cleaning things and the back scrubbing before getting a shower. That was 35 RMB plus a tip of 15. I also left a "tip" for Miss Yan at the front desk, as she asked if I would buy her some fruit if she gave me a really good massage. I couldn't understand if she wanted me to go with her to buy fruit after the massage, as he only works the day shift, or if it was just a kind of tip request. (Also a little strange). I left 50 RMB there for her, and I had to explain to the front desk person it was for #2 to buy some fruit.

CONCLUSION:

I didn't get the FS I was looking for, but ended up with a good HE massage which did the trick. The masseuse was friendly and cute, but loses some customer service points for taking calls during the massage and needing to leave a few times. She gave me her number and asked me to call next time, and she would give me excellent service. Facilities aren't great, but in line with the pricing. I would consider repeating with Miss Yan, but. Again in the interest of science. Would be interested to investigate some of the other saunas mentioned in the boards to see if FS is available at those locations.

Overall score: 6/10.

I made a connection with Miss Yan, but if you don't speak Chinese, you might not have the same results. Also, negative points for the distractions during the session.

Hi all,

I am new in town and will be staying at Ramada Plaza Guangzhou and see they have "Rain Palace Sauna" Location:Tower B,.1F.

Does anyone know whether they offer the "happy ending" service there?

If not, a recommendation for places nearby would be appreciated.

Ramada Plaza Guangzhou:

Address: No. 313 Shougouling Road, Guangyuan Road East, Tianhe District, Guangzhou. Guangdong, P. R. China.

Charles

Hi All,

I would be visiting Guangzhou on 07th May'2011 and would be staying at lido hotel opposite beijing lu road.

Any thing near by for the HJ or the Hot Tea BJ with a proper massage.

[QUOTE=Bestxoxo; 1158532]Hi all,

I am new in town and will be staying at Ramada Plaza Guangzhou and see they have "Rain Palace Sauna" Location:Tower B. 1F.

Does anyone know whether they offer the "happy ending" service there?

If not, a recommendation for places nearby would be appreciated.

Ramada Plaza Guangzhou:

Address: No. 313 Shougouling Road, Guangyuan Road East, Tianhe District, Guangzhou. Guangdong, P. R. China.

Charles[/QUOTE]

I like Panyu KTV, its fun. I think it is like 3-10. The 10 is can be ST or LT depending on how she is drawn to you and how you negotiated. I like like the rooms and if you know mama / manager well, you can get room in the hotel for around 325-400 a night at 2am in the morning. Done this a couple of times.

My fav KTV in panyu is bravo, real close to the train station.

GL.

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand; 1152922]Fillmore,

Sorry for the delayed reply. I don't get on here as often as I used to. Next time, send me a PM. I check those more often.

I am not a big KTV fan so I am not sure about all of the costs since I am not a regular customer at Sichang. I've only been there a couple of times and was invited by a BSD so did not pay anything except for my girl. I am not certain but I think it was 3-10-15, but in some cases LT was not on offer. I just went for ST anyway. You can also pick girls from a line-up and take them out for 1, 000 RMB ST without booking a room. I did this once awhile back because there was another girl I had to have when I was there with the BSD but she was a regular girl of one guy in the party.

Just my POV.

OAH[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Disch; 1159324]I like Panyu KTV, its fun. I think it is like 3-10. The 10 is can be ST or LT depending on how she is drawn to you and how you negotiated. I like like the rooms and if you know mama / manager well, you can get room in the hotel for around 325-400 a night at 2am in the morning. Done this a couple of times.

My fav KTV in panyu is bravo, real close to the train station.

GL. [/QUOTE]Excellent info. I am in Guangzhou now, would love to try this bravo out. It is indeed close to the subway from the map, so I can get back to town in the morning by subway, beats the CP train routine. What is the cost of a small room, as I don't have anyone to go with. What about DJ, cost and do I need to tip mama, server etc?

Could you pm me phone number of mama / manager to book my room?

Fillmore

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1159407]Excellent info. I am in Guangzhou now, would love to try this bravo out. It is indeed close to the subway from the map, so I can get back to town in the morning by subway, beats the CP train routine. What is the cost of a small room, as I don't have anyone to go with. What about DJ, cost and do I need to tip mama, server etc?

Could you pm me phone number of mama / manager to book my room?

Fillmore[/QUOTE]1st, I think the trains stops at like 11pm so if you are staying late, do not bother taking the train until the morning.

2nd, I don't have the numbers to the mama s at hand, but don't worried just walk in and ALWAYS ask for the spending cost of a small room. I think it was like 680. So you know the drill, it includes fruit platter which is like 300, tissues some some small snakes which is like another 1-2 hundred. So, I think it covers the 1st dozen of beers. (no reservation, no prob unless they are out of rooms; you will not get any discounts anyways)

3rd, once you get into the room, if you know Chinese, a captain will come and speak with you. Ask drink specials, most of the time they have like buy 2 dozens and get 1 free or spend 400 extra and get a free dozens. Tell them that you are able to get a lot of snacks and free stuff else where in Guangzhou; they will order you some free snacks.

4th, small talk with the captain and tell where the hell are the girls. He will call mama to come in.

5th, princess are 200.

6th, mama get no tippy unless you want mama to remember you and drink with you. Do this if you frequent a club so mama remember you and hook you up next time you reserve a room through her and she will reserve girls of your choice for you. (some are hot mamas and we had a great time; usually if girls see if mama pays a lot of respect to you, they will be curious who are you and why mama so close with you; just a thought)

7th, YES, the princess is drinking and playing dice. Do just let her not have any action even if she saids she don't drink.

8th, think they close at 2 also (too early, in NYC, I just got started. Nudie bars close at like 4, clubs at 5, and then the after hours clubs, ah. Miss the US of A)

So, beers are by the dozen, they may have specials certain nights and ranges from 160-300 a dozen, so get the price right. Oh, if I remember correctly, they take visa / master card so I get my double points for going. LOL.

I think rooms are 680 880 1080 etc.

Most girls are take outable, so you will have to work your charm for a lower price. THERE are freebies. But thats is she likes you.

I may have to pay a visit soon too, its been a while.

Oh, if you want to see something different, there is a hotel in the center of town call zichang (excuse my mandarin)

If you go around 4-6, ride the elevator to up and down as all the KTV / sauna girls goes to and down WITH in the same cart. So imagine you get squeeze in with like 8 hotties. Its nice to check out all the hotties before you start your party.

Post a review when you are done.

[QUOTE=Disch; 1159657]1st, I think the trains stops at like 11pm so if you are staying late, do not bother taking the train until the morning.

If you go around 4-6, ride the elevator to up and down as all the KTV / sauna girls goes to and down WITH in the same cart. So imagine you get squeeze in with like 8 hotties. Its nice to check out all the hotties before you start your party.

Post a review when you are done. [/QUOTE]Sure thing man, some excellent details that you have given here, and I will make sure I give it a try before my trip ends. My nights are mostly full right now but I will find a night next week. I guss I will have to substitude one CP fuhao night with bravo.

F.

[QUOTE=Disch; 1159657]1st, I think the trains stops at like 11pm so if you are staying late, do not bother taking the train until the morning.

2nd, I don't have the numbers to the mama s at hand, but don't worried just walk in and ALWAYS ask for the spending cost of a small room. I think it was like 680. So you know the drill, it includes fruit platter which is like 300, tissues some some small snakes which is like another 1-2 hundred. So, I think it covers the 1st dozen of beers. (no reservation, no prob unless they are out of rooms; you will not get any discounts anyways) [/QUOTE]Forgot to ask an important question Disch, what time do they start? As in all KTV, I want to be the first few customer to see the lineup. If you see girls going into work before 6, that means they open around 6:30?

F.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1159788]Forgot to ask an important question Disch, what time do they start? As in all KTV, I want to be the first few customer to see the lineup. If you see girls going into work before 6, that means they open around 6:30?

F. [/QUOTE]I am thinking 6. 30. But I always go at 7. 30.

GL

I went to this new KTV that opened about 3 months ago. Its called Dorsett hotel.

Rooms are new and nice size, there is one room to fill 60+. Sound system was good.

My mid room was 680 to start and beer was 390 for a dozen and buy 2 get one free.

Had some nice girls, but we got there around 10 and I was only able to pick 3 out of the few line ups.

They have 2-5-8, 3-6-9 and 4-7-10. All were willing to be taken out at 2am.

But captain can book rooms in hotel for 190 for you and the girls. . I may need to try this next time.

There are 2 people take care of you the princess and a busboy.

200 for princess and 100 for busboy.

Captains got all the food for free.

We have 6 mamas to come in and drink for 2 hours. LOL, was grinding with like 4 chicks at once.

Nice night out. Total 3600 for room and 2000 for all the girls.

GL

It was grand to walk in and make the left as there were around 50+ princesses line up on both sides of the curved marble steps. They all said in unison in Chinese welcoming you. I was like, ah. I missed this places. Lots of hotties princesses. Never tried to pick one right there. (any one know if you can pick which princess you get or from that huge line up)

The spending is still the same 680 for small. 880 for mid size. 1180+ for bigger.

Rooms was nice, we got comfy and then followed by the usual. Before the captain came, my buddy went out side for something and saw lots of hotties walking by and pull 2 in immediately.

After a few, Mamas came in and we fill the room with girls. (all new mamas, the old ones which I partied with often was not here. If not, it would even more smashing) 5 mamas was drinking with us the whole night too. Got the princess drunk passes out. Lots of food which I never eat and was free from the place. The girls order spicy soup. I was laughing like crazy seeing almost 20 ladies drinking spicy soup at once.

Place lots of dice games, girls were coming and going, some friends of the girls pop in and out; played a few rounds of dice, drink a bit and then leave and came back later. I lost track of home many we were drinking with by midnight. Place was crazy with girls singing and dancing once some pop music came on. The smashing of the dice containers on the glass table was popping every second. Beer was everywhere and we all had a great time. Some great GFE and caressing.

We didn't lift a finger as the ladies pour the beer, use tissues to tenderly dry your lips after chugging a cup. All in all, it was as good as the first time we went there.

Over all damage, being a bit tipsy and generous, all the girls which we choice got 400 and the ladies which we didn't choose but came in later got 200, princess 200, mamas got 200 and busboy got 100.

6400 for all the girls and the room + beer tab was around 4000.

Its a bit expensive, but I don't play in panyu as much as I use to.

======================================================

I went to sichang also, there use to the a KTV there and a bar at the top level. Have anyone been there?

I walk in and it seemed too legit so, I did not explore too much. Is this still a pay for play KTV?

I remember the top floor use to be a great bar. There were many lady bartenders that sat behind the bar and drank with you. Or you can bring you own girl. Which is what we did, we use to bring lots of girls there to drink because for a dozen of beer was like 160 and the place was rocking with music and nice beets.

If any one knows if its still there, I would appreciated if you can share that with me.

GL

[QUOTE=Disch; 1160942]It was grand to walk in and make the left as there were around 50+ princesses line up on both sides of the curved marble steps. They all said in unison in Chinese welcoming you. I was like, ah. I missed this places. Lots of hotties princesses. Never tried to pick one right there. (any one know if you can pick which princess you get or from that huge line up)

The spending is still the same 680 for small. 880 for mid size. 1180+ for bigger.

Rooms was nice, we got comfy and then followed by the usual. Before the captain came, my buddy went out side for something and saw lots of hotties walking by and pull 2 in immediately.

After a few, Mamas came in and we fill the room with girls. (all new mamas, the old ones which I partied with often was not here. If not, it would even more smashing) 5 mamas was drinking with us the whole night too. Got the princess drunk passes out. Lots of food which I never eat and was free from the place. The girls order spicy soup. I was laughing like crazy seeing almost 20 ladies drinking spicy soup at once.

Place lots of dice games, girls were coming and going, some friends of the girls pop in and out; played a few rounds of dice, drink a bit and then leave and came back later. I lost track of home many we were drinking with by midnight. Place was crazy with girls singing and dancing once some pop music came on. The smashing of the dice containers on the glass table was popping every second. Beer was everywhere and we all had a great time. Some great GFE and caressing.

We didn't lift a finger as the ladies pour the beer, use tissues to tenderly dry your lips after chugging a cup. All in all, it was as good as the first time we went there.

Over all damage, being a bit tipsy and generous, all the girls which we choice got 400 and the ladies which we didn't choose but came in later got 200, princess 200, mamas got 200 and busboy got 100.

6400 for all the girls and the room + beer tab was around 4000.

Its a bit expensive, but I don't play in panyu as much as I use to.

======================================================

I went to sichang also, there use to the a KTV there and a bar at the top level. Have anyone been there?

I walk in and it seemed too legit so, I did not explore too much. Is this still a pay for play KTV?

I remember the top floor use to be a great bar. There were many lady bartenders that sat behind the bar and drank with you. Or you can bring you own girl. Which is what we did, we use to bring lots of girls there to drink because for a dozen of beer was like 160 and the place was rocking with music and nice beets.

If any one knows if its still there, I would appreciated if you can share that with me.

GL[/QUOTE]I THINK that the gals on the staircase are the DJ's. At least they were only DJ's the last time I was there.

Just a bit of observation. Yes if money is no object. But I'd opine that you'd have just as good a time if you would BAR all those mommas, uninvited gals, managers (whose major duty is to drink as much as posible to pad up the bill) etc from coming in your room. They're like vultures and come in droves to any room that would allow even the first one in to help themselves to your booze and even order up food etc. Watch out!

The Sichang hotel is one great big hoor house with only 2 floors for actual guest rooms. The rest being utilized for ALL sorts of shenanigans favoured by the male of the species! The closest I've seen as being a true "Bawdy house" in Dongguan and may have fallen victim to the recent "strike hard" campaign.

Pity!

SEAJ

[QUOTE=Disch; 1160942]I went to sichang also, there use to the a KTV there and a bar at the top level. Have anyone been there?

I walk in and it seemed too legit so, I did not explore too much. Is this still a pay for play KTV? [/QUOTE]Sichang is done. They converted the KTV a year ago, and now offering only cheap KTV room on hourly rate. I found this out last night by walking into it and asking them.

F.

Following Disch's lead, I went to bravo Monday night. Did we go the same night as you had just written a report.

Maybe because I am a new face, they told me busboy also need 200 tip, how can that be, the princess at least drink with me all night, what does he do to deserve the same? Also, there is another 200 surcharge for changing the DJ. I really had no choice but to replace her as they sent me one fat and ugly.

Girls run 300/400/500, I only wanted to pick from the 300s as the others are just taller, not any prettier. After a few line ups, I was only able to find one girl weight less then 43kb and good looking. I was told no more 300 girls. I then asked to see them all again, and apparently they do have more and I finally had 3 girls that are at least as good or better then my regular picks in CP.

For drinks, I picked a package for 1250 with red wine. Beer will run pretty much the same for a package deal. If you don't pick the package, then they will hit you up with 100 room charge and 10% service fee and all that junks, so go with the package just make it simple for me, as it has 4 bottles of wine which from my CP experiene, would be what is needed for the night.

When the night ended, I asked one mamma for take out price and was told no take out for first timer. What the hell was that? I paied the girls each their 300 and the two seated next to me did not leave right away, they said there are still more drinks and lets finish them. I concealed my disappointment and continue to play with them and chatted with the mama more. She asked me where I was staying and I said in this same hotel, room 9xx. She went out a bit and came back later to tell me that she had talked with the manager again and will let me take out because I was staying in the hotel and she and another mamma had spent enough time with me to let me break their first-time-no-take-out rule. What can I say, I told her in that case I will take both girls out, as they were both really hot and both stuck it out with me the whole time, maybe this is a routine and they knew?

Long story short, I kept one girl for LT and had the best sex ever in my ife, and this is from a guy frequents both CP and Zhuhai KTV on a regular bases.

Total damage:

Room: 1250 (drinks) +200 (DJ change) +200 (DJ) +200 (busboy) +300 (tips to 2 mammies) = 2150.

Girls : 300 (one sitting only) + 900 (ST) +1100 (LT) = 2300.

Fillmore

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1160967]Sichang is done. They converted the KTV a year ago, and now offering only cheap KTV room on hourly rate. I found this out last night by walking into it and asking them.

F. [/QUOTE]Darn, I was afraid of that. I use to love just taking that elevator up and down at around 4-5pm. It was like boxed in with all the hotties and it was free.

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe; 1160946]I THINK that the gals on the staircase are the DJ's. At least they were only DJ's the last time I was there.

Just a bit of observation. Yes if money is no object. But I'd opine that you'd have just as good a time if you would BAR all those mommas, uninvited gals, managers (whose major duty is to drink as much as posible to pad up the bill) etc from coming in your room. They're like vultures and come in droves to any room that would allow even the first one in to help themselves to your booze and even order up food etc. Watch out!

The Sichang hotel is one great big hoor house with only 2 floors for actual guest rooms. The rest being utilized for ALL sorts of shenanigans favoured by the male of the species! The closest I've seen as being a true "Bawdy house" in Dongguan and may have fallen victim to the recent "strike hard" campaign.

Pity!

SEAJ[/QUOTE]What a pity. I can on count on my fond memories. I guess there is still the panyu hotel. Still looks happening.

There is this other great new building next to it now. Not sure what that is.

As for the vultures, I don't ever talk to the guys that comes in, so they leave very quickly. But the female mamas, I have to say, may be from speaking after many drinks and other experiences, some are darn hot. As they may use to be a KTV girl in their earlier life. I have had a few crazy night that after drinking with the whole gang, like 20+ people went to foot massage and late snake post KTV. It was quite a scene. Averge like 4-5 girls per guy walking into a 24 hr restaurant and foot massage. And not take out fee as all the mamas + the girls came along.

Speaking of foot massage, my fav foot massage is not closed. It was right across from sichang, it had a buffet be / f or a / f your massage which was included as part of the fee.

I guess I have to move some of my play to other places in Guangzhou.

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1160982]Following Disch's lead, I went to bravo Monday night. Did we go the same night as you had just written a report.

Maybe because I am a new face, they told me busboy also need 200 tip, how can that be, the princess at least drink with me all night, what does he do to deserve the same? Also, there is another 200 surcharge for changing the DJ. I really had no choice but to replace her as they sent me one fat and ugly. [/QUOTE]They did seem to be a lot more strict now since my many action days. When I went in, I was not able to find any of my old mamas to help me out also, but I sure did make some new ones remember me.

Once you are in, you are in. Call to book ahead and they will come meet you downstairs.

If they charge me 200 more for switching out the princess / DJ, I would just switch rooms. Why give you such hard time. Not sure if the fat princess will follow you, but I think they are link to a room number.

I think we may have went the same night. If I can wake up clearly from a crazy yesterday night, I think I did go there on Monday night.

Place is always a bit expensive, but I can assure you that if you frequent visit and spend that kinda of money, they will offer freebies to keep you coming.

The busBOY is 100. Thats what I paid.

After paying 400 just for the princess, I sure hope that you got her wasted! . And laying next to you.

I think SEAJ mentioned the strike hard campaign, which causes them to be more cautious; this is annoying.

Well, I hope you enjoyed it, and next to the subwayline, I can't think if anyplace with hotter chicks.

What time did you get there? I was there at 8pm and took a lot of girls, sorry if I did peg you a bit.

[QUOTE=Disch; 1161313]They did seem to be a lot more strict now since my many action days. When I went in, I was not able to find any of my old mamas to help me out also, but I sure did make some new ones remember me.

Once you are in, you are in. Call to book ahead and they will come meet you downstairs.

If they charge me 200 more for switching out the princess / DJ, I would just switch rooms. Why give you such hard time. Not sure if the fat princess will follow you, but I think they are link to a room number.

I think we may have went the same night. If I can wake up clearly from a crazy yesterday night, I think I did go there on Monday night.

Place is always a bit expensive, but I can assure you that if you frequent visit and spend that kinda of money, they will offer freebies to keep you coming.

The busBOY is 100. Thats what I paid.

After paying 400 just for the princess, I sure hope that you got her wasted! . And laying next to you.

I think SEAJ mentioned the strike hard campaign, which causes them to be more cautious; this is annoying.

Well, I hope you enjoyed it, and next to the subwayline, I can't think if anyplace with hotter chicks.

What time did you get there? I was there at 8pm and took a lot of girls, sorry if I did peg you a bit. [/QUOTE]Sorry man, I picked before you, hahaha. The girls told me mine was the first room for the lineup, as I went before 7:30.

Now that I have a mama who knows me, going forward will be simpler. Yes, she did tell me busboy should be just 100 and DJ switching charge is also a trick since the switch will be free if you do not pick, but simply ask for a replacement. Maybe she will just find the right type of girl for me next time. Cute DJ is important as I need to have 3 to 5 girls in the room and I am already paying for the DJ, so I sure want her to be one of the girls to play with me the whole night.

The subway next door is nice. I took that in the morning as taxi will be slower due to morning traffic. The ride to my office in Tianhe door to door was about 50 min. I went over by taxi and it took just 25 min, cost about 80rmb.

Once I know the girls, I don't have to go to their KTV every night, as I can just finish whatever I need to do in Guangzhou and taxi over to wait for one of them to finish work and spent the night with me, can't do that with CP girls as taxi to CP will be at least one hour and coming back to Guangzhou in the morning is also too much hustle.

I will still go to CP but now I see Panyu offers a great altnative. Maybe I will stop going to CP altogether if they also do those CP / CA things, like vacuum dance, or maybe that is asking too much for something so close to Guangzhou.

Fillmore

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1161319]Sorry man, I picked before you, hahaha. The girls told me mine was the first room for the lineup, as I went before 7:30.

Now that I have a mama who knows me, going forward will be simpler. Yes, she did tell me busboy should be just 100 and DJ switching charge is also a trick since the switch will be free if you do not pick, but simply ask for a replacement. Maybe she will just find the right type of girl for me next time. Cute DJ is important as I need to have 3 to 5 girls in the room and I am already paying for the DJ, so I sure want her to be one of the girls to play with me the whole night.

The subway next door is nice. I took that in the morning as taxi will be slower due to morning traffic. The ride to my office in Tianhe door to door was about 50 min. I went over by taxi and it took just 25 min, cost about 80rmb.

Once I know the girls, I don't have to go to their KTV every night, as I can just finish whatever I need to do in Guangzhou and taxi over to wait for one of them to finish work and spent the night with me, can't do that with CP girls as taxi to CP will be at least one hour and coming back to Guangzhou in the morning is also too much hustle.

I will still go to CP but now I see Panyu offers a great altnative. Maybe I will stop going to CP altogether if they also do those CP / CA things, like vacuum dance, or maybe that is asking too much for something so close to Guangzhou.

Fillmore[/QUOTE]Nice. Sounds like you had a decent time. I have done a few of those take outs. Pretty fun.

I get the vacuum dance in saunas. So I get my fill there. Maybe you can do the same. Sanuas in huangqi is rediculous good. I been spending a lot of time here and have always gone home or out with out even thinking about hitting it up with another chick for the next few hours. Also the inroom shower by the girls are the best!

[QUOTE=Disch; 1161601]Nice. Sounds like you had a decent time. I have done a few of those take outs. Pretty fun.

I get the vacuum dance in saunas. So I get my fill there. Maybe you can do the same. Sanuas in huangqi is rediculous good. I been spending a lot of time here and have always gone home or out with out even thinking about hitting it up with another chick for the next few hours. Also the inroom shower by the girls are the best! [/QUOTE]The taxi driver told me I should go to huangqi instead, so it must be fun down there. My trip is coming to its end and my remaining days are all booked up, so maybe I will explore huangqi on my next trip. Sounds like life is good for you huh?

About that dance thing, maybe there is something I don't know about sauna. In a sauna setting, everybody is already naked, so the vaccum concept does not really apply. In KTV, there are considerable added excitements when everyone started out fully dressed and singing and drinking and then having the lights turned off and stripped and dance to really loud music. They will take turn holding my xiaodidi, while I finger them. Usually at least one pussy would be totally wet and that would typically be the girl I will eventually take home. After the dance, everyone get dressed again and continue to play, except now everyone is much closer to each other, LOL.

Fillmore

I picked up a very hot one in The Cave Bar around mid-night the other day. We went back to my hotel, The Garden, just down the street, and she had to register as was fully expected before going up to my room. I called her in the next day at 3:30pm for a little afternoon fun and the elevator guy stopped her and made her go register. I've had many girls up in other cities all over China during the day and I"ve never had anyone that had to register if coming in before 11pm. On our way to the front desk, she said maybe give the guy 100yuan. It seemed to me that she has had that work before either here or someplace else. Anybody know whats up with the daytime registration and do you think tossing some cash at the elevator guy would have worked? I'd just as soon do that as wait in line to register.

Thanks

Hello to all,

I will be travelling to guangzhou on the 17th of July. I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction as to which hotels to book. I will be there for about 5 days. Ideally I am looking for a hotel that have the services in house so to say. But if not, I am open to suggestions. Also if there is any directions as to how much the services would be that would help.

Looking forward to all the help.

Many thanks

[QUOTE=Captain1; 1164220]I picked up a very hot one in The Cave Bar around mid-night the other day. We went back to my hotel, The Garden, just down the street, and she had to register as was fully expected before going up to my room. I called her in the next day at 3:30pm for a little afternoon fun and the elevator guy stopped her and made her go register. I've had many girls up in other cities all over China during the day and I"ve never had anyone that had to register if coming in before 11pm. On our way to the front desk, she said maybe give the guy 100yuan. It seemed to me that she has had that work before either here or someplace else. Anybody know whats up with the daytime registration and do you think tossing some cash at the elevator guy would have worked? I'd just as soon do that as wait in line to register.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I'm heading there next week. Staying at the same hotel. Can I get her number if she is hot and willing to go back to hotel? How much did you charge you and did she stay overnight?

[QUOTE=Captain1; 1164220]I picked up a very hot one in The Cave Bar around mid-night the other day. We went back to my hotel, The Garden, just down the street, and she had to register as was fully expected before going up to my room. I called her in the next day at 3:30pm for a little afternoon fun and the elevator guy stopped her and made her go register. I've had many girls up in other cities all over China during the day and I"ve never had anyone that had to register if coming in before 11pm. On our way to the front desk, she said maybe give the guy 100yuan. It seemed to me that she has had that work before either here or someplace else. Anybody know whats up with the daytime registration and do you think tossing some cash at the elevator guy would have worked? I'd just as soon do that as wait in line to register.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Garden hotel is definitely not girl friendly, best to stay at a different hotel next time. The Cave Bar is definitely the new Tang in Guangzhou. I went there several nights and saw many WG. I don't see any hot one, so you must be really lucky. I did notice some new faces, not the same old same old from Gypsy King. There was at least one bargirl/dancer that was really hot, so anyone tried picking those up? I did asked one hot bar-girl when she will get off work and she said 2 with a big smile. I might had a chance except I was already with a hot KTV girl from CP that night.

Fillmore

[QUOTE=Doley91;1164335]I'm heading there next week. Staying at the same hotel. Can I get her number if she is hot and willing to go back to hotel? How much did you charge you and did she stay overnight?[/QUOTE]I told her I wouldn't pass her number around. However, just go to the cave bar and ask around. The girls all know each other. Name was Yena. 1000Y 2 pops. Was more than willing to stay for an extra 500. Actually gave me the sad eyes when I said I had to sleep and get up early. Was already very late. Had to ask her to leave on the second visit also.

[QUOTE=Doley91;1164335]I'm heading there next week. Staying at the same hotel. Can I get her number if she is hot and willing to go back to hotel? How much did you charge you and did she stay overnight?[/QUOTE]Different people might have different ideas on a girl being hot, so just head over to Cave Bar after 11pm and see if you have any luck. I went there 5 times during my two weeks stay and I saw plenty of WG, no hottie, just OK quality, but then again, I usually only do KTV girls.

Fillmore

Was in Guangzhou yesterday. Nothing much going on for a slow night. Went to a quiet bar called Feel bar just off of Tianhe Bei road. It does not appear to be happening for pickups, actually it was all empty after 12 pm except for me and the hot bar owner. I persuaded her to have a cold one with me since I did not want to drink by myself. Good thing about the place is that they have long sofa seats, and she sat down beside me and kind of got tipsy and nearly passed out on me. A few drinks definitely loosened her up and I scored with her coming back to my place. She's definitely 10 out of 10. You got to check her out.

I been reading a lot about Guangzhou.

I need some help finding a good girl friemdly hotel, I don't want a dumb guy standing near the elevator not speaking any english not allowing me to get a girl into my room.

Or knock on my door while I am naked. Any suggestions? I would really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=BAX123;1166222]Was in Guangzhou yesterday. Nothing much going on for a slow night. Went to a quiet bar called Feel bar just off of Tianhe Bei road. It does not appear to be happening for pickups, actually it was all empty after 12 pm except for me and the hot bar owner. I persuaded her to have a cold one with me since I did not want to drink by myself. Good thing about the place is that they have long sofa seats, and she sat down beside me and kind of got tipsy and nearly passed out on me. A few drinks definitely loosened her up and I scored with her coming back to my place. She's definitely 10 out of 10. You got to check her out.[/QUOTE]What hotel? If you don't mind please

[QUOTE=Fillmore St; 1164404]Garden hotel is definitely not girl friendly, best to stay at a different hotel next time. The Cave Bar is definitely the new Tang in Guangzhou. I went there several nights and saw many WG. I don't see any hot one, so you must be really lucky. I did notice some new faces, not the same old same old from Gypsy King. There was at least one bargirl / dancer that was really hot, so anyone tried picking those up? I did asked one hot bar-girl when she will get off work and she said 2 with a big smile. I might had a chance except I was already with a hot KTV girl from CP that night.

Fillmore[/QUOTE]I used to date one of the dancers at cave, ones that dance on the speakers, I think most are not WG, last time I went cave was inundated with black guys pushing drugs, plenty of WG sitting around the bar and all want 1000 which is crazy IMHO, cave and tang are totally different I think, tang being a bit more higher end.

Garden hotel would be a nightmare getting girls in, is all camered up and security guards, I also used to date a hot girl who worked in the bar in garden hotel, I can't recall any WG there. Theres a hotel directly behind garden hotel, thats girl friendly as I managed to flood the room, the toilet had a maserator and must of jambed was banging a girl and didn't notice the room flooding (around foot of water around the bed) , next thing the door was being opened, thank god we flipped the security bar over!

[QUOTE=RamiCR7;1167306]What hotel? If you don't mind please[/QUOTE]I stayed at Westin near east train station. Fortunately at the expense of my employer. No probs getting her in.

[QUOTE=BAX123;1168115]I stayed at Westin near east train station. Fortunately at the expense of my employer. No probs getting her in.[/QUOTE]I think all the real 5 star hotels should be GF, room rate 1500 a night or higher.

Or, cheaper ones. 350 or lower, are typically OK too, just the Garden Hotel types in the 700 range that tends to have problems with taking girls in.

Fillmore

[QUOTE=China35; 1168071]I used to date one of the dancers at cave, ones that dance on the speakers, I think most are not WG, last time I went cave was inundated with black guys pushing drugs, plenty of WG sitting around the bar and all want 1000 which is crazy IMHO, cave and tang are totally different I think, tang being a bit more higher end.

Garden hotel would be a nightmare getting girls in, is all camered up and security guards, I also used to date a hot girl who worked in the bar in garden hotel, I can't recall any WG there. Theres a hotel directly behind garden hotel, thats girl friendly as I managed to flood the room, the toilet had a maserator and must of jambed was banging a girl and didn't notice the room flooding (around foot of water around the bed) , next thing the door was being opened, thank god we flipped the security bar over! [/QUOTE]Wow, I knew it, someone must be scoring those dancers. At least one I saw dancing on the speaks were really hot.

Cave is no Tang, I know, but then Tang is no longer there, so Cave is we got.

Fillmore

[QUOTE=RamiCR7; 1167303]I been reading a lot about Guangzhou.

I need some help finding a good girl friemdly hotel, I don't want a dumb guy standing near the elevator not speaking any english not allowing me to get a girl into my room.

Or knock on my door while I am naked. Any suggestions? I would really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]InterContinental would be safe bet. This brand has high standards and pride in guest relationship and services.

BTW, the forum has not changed a bit while hybernating for many years.

[QUOTE=Kinesics; 1168471]InterContinental would be safe bet. This brand has high standards and pride in guest relationship and services.

BTW, the forum has not changed a bit while hybernating for many years. [/QUOTE]Wow, I was reading about aocean hotel! Can't afford the inter.

Hello, everyone, been reading the forums for ages and have made a few contributions over the years to help keep things moving along as it were. I will be arriving in Guangzhou on the 25th of July to begin a new job and have never been to Guangzhou before. If someone wants to meet up to explore, or if a seasoned veteran who knows the game in Guangzhou wants to meet up to show a newly arrived adventurer the ropes, I am willing and would greatly appreciate it. Looking for fun and adventure, so let the games begin!

I want to stay in a GF hotel in guangzhou when I am there in 2 weeks. I am currently booked in the Garden Hotel because my vendor suggested I stay there. I can easily change hotels but I won't stay in a dump. I am used to 5 star accomodations. Any suggestions where I can stay that is nice that will allow me to bring a WG back to my room?

By the way, I would prefer not to stay in Tianhe area. Seems like the Huanshi Dong Lu area is easier to find women, MP, etc.

HELP ME WITH INFO PLEASE.

Hi All,

And I have read the forum for at least the last six pages, but would really appreciate some quick info.

I've read here that the Guangdong Victory Hotel is GF? Can anyone confirm?

Also, the only mention of bars is The Cave with not good quality. Any info about any others around the Victory hotel would be much appreciated.

Heading down for the first week of July.

[QUOTE=Gao Xing; 1131523]So many boring questions on this thread, discussions on taking the metro, RTFF questions, and invitations to go to CP where things are so much better. Well, there are places to go in Guangzhou (though I certainly won't argue the worth of Guangzhou over CP as a mongering destination) , if you just look. I had the occasion to head out of HK for a few days up to Guangzhou and found a decent full service sauna near the Dongfang Hotel / Marriott Hotel. The Google maps link is: tiny url dot com / 6h4karw.

The details:

After finishing running some errands as a favour for my friend, I had some time off and decided to try a sauna that was reviewed on this forum. From Dongfang Hotel, turn left on Liuhua Road. At the first intersection, turn left at North Renmin Road. The first small intersection is Panfu Dajie. Turn left here, and the Deyi Sangna Health Club is only about 50 meters down the street on the left.

Walk in, go down a couple steps to the counter. There are a few different kinds of massage, but mongers will want the "Thai Massage" for 368 RMB. I asked about the other kinds, which were regular massage and Chinese massage. I was told that the Thai Massage (listed as 90 minutes) would offer the "best service". I know what that means, and I took it.

I was lead off into the men's locker room. Regulars know the deal. You put on a bracelet with your number. The locker room attendants help you change out of your clothes, put everything away, and then hit the lockers. There is an extra 10 RMB fee here for the clothes you wear for the Thai Massage. This extra charge doesn't apply for the other massages. Oy, what's a Pound here or there?

After the shower, putting on my fancy new 10 RMB clothes, I was led off to the rest area. As I was there in the late afternoon, there was not too much activity. The bartender gave me a Coke, and I asked to get the massage quickly since my time was limited. After a while, a youngish "mamasan" asked me to go upstairs and led me down a dark series of corridors to a massage room.

Eventually the massage girl entered. They keep the rooms fairly dark, so it's difficult to see too much. The girl I had is local (as she had a thick Cantonese accent when speaking Mandarin. English was very limited.) Facilities seemed reasonably clean, but old. Not terrible, not great, but in the middle of the scale. The "massage" started with me faced down. Not great, but decent, and a lot of attention paid to the posterior.

Keep in mind, I thought this place was just a HJ-type place. My masseuse, #22, claimed to be new to this establishment. I believe she was new to this sauna, but not new to the sauna business. Difficult to see exactly, but probably in the mid- to late-20s. Nice personality, and we chatted a while during the massage. It's always better to develop some relationship with the masseuse. In this case helpful to know some Chinese. (Though Cantonese would have been better!)

After about 20 minutes, she ducked out for a bit to get a "glass of water". This turned out to be the requisite equipment for fire and ice. She did some of the water-gurgling-on-the-back routine, and then asked me to turn over. (I much obliged.) Off come the shorts, and then starts the BBBJ with fire and ice. Quite good. During this time, she grabbed my hand to put on her tits and asked me to feel her up. No problem.

Some more of this, and then out comes the 'dom, and she asked whether she or I should be on top. I'm a lazy guy, and asked her to be on top. (And at this time, very pleasantly surprised it's not just a HJ establishment!) What followed was one of the more passionate experiences I've ever had in a sauna. Maybe she's new to this place, but I felt that Miss #22 was enthusiastic, and seemed into it. First, she was on top, and I sucked on her nipples for a while (which she seemed to like). Eventually we switched, with her on the bottom. A lot of sauna girls give you a feeling of a definite routine, but not here. She seemed more open and flexible. No kissing (though I didn't try.) No DATY (again, didn't try) , but overall, I felt it was one of the better sauna experiences I've had. Be advised, this may be due to the fact I was only expecting an HJ and got much more.

I would definitely go back and ask for #22. No, she's not the youngest or prettiest. But overall an excellent provider. She asked me to call her next time I'm in Guangzhou. (So here's hoping my friend needs another favour done soon!)

After the deed, we chatted for a bit. I needed to catch a train back to HK, so I didn't stay the full 90 minutes. I didn't get the feeling there would be an opportunity for a second pop even if I didn't have to get back home. I just headed back down to the showers, washed off, changed back up, gave the locker attendants a tip (thtey seemed like decent guys, and weren't pushy, so I gave them 50 RMB) , and then out the door. This place makes you pre-pay for the massage, so nothing to do when I left. Just back out on the street, squinting in the sun, looking for a taxi to get back to Guangzhou East Station.

Hope this is helpful, and have fun in Guangzhou.[/QUOTE]Thanks Gao Xing for this info, I went there today first time in a Chinese sauna very good experience.

After paying 368 and 10 for the sauna clothes mamassam took me to the dark rooms and send a cute girl around 20-25. Very pleasen massage, I felt so good after working for many days here in China, then she went out for the glass of water and starteed sucking all parts of my body before BJ and then the important part, first she on the top, she got excited because very noisy, betwen changing pose I touche her all over her body and I noted she got very wet, then I was on the top raise her legs, she started screaming more and more and finish. Then I took a shower and give 40 rmb tip to the guys outside. She did her best to speak to me in english cause I don't speak Chinese at all, so this add more points to this place, you don't need to speak Chinese to have a good experience in thsi place. I didn't notice which number was her, but I will try to go again before I leave.

Any sugestion for FS only near this place? Fow a quick visit.

And thanks again info, really a good place, worth every rmb I spent there.

[QUOTE=Gao Xing; 1131523]So many boring questions on this thread, discussions on taking the metro, RTFF questions, and invitations to go to CP where things are so much better. Well, there are places to go in Guangzhou (though I certainly won't argue the worth of Guangzhou over CP as a mongering destination) , if you just look. I had the occasion to head out of HK for a few days up to Guangzhou and found a decent full service sauna near the Dongfang Hotel / Marriott Hotel. The Google maps link is: tiny url dot com / 6h4karw.

The details:

After finishing running some errands as a favour for my friend, I had some time off and decided to try a sauna that was reviewed on this forum. From Dongfang Hotel, turn left on Liuhua Road. At the first intersection, turn left at North Renmin Road. The first small intersection is Panfu Dajie. Turn left here, and the Deyi Sangna Health Club is only about 50 meters down the street on the left.

Walk in, go down a couple steps to the counter. There are a few different kinds of massage, but mongers will want the "Thai Massage" for 368 RMB. I asked about the other kinds, which were regular massage and Chinese massage. I was told that the Thai Massage (listed as 90 minutes) would offer the "best service". I know what that means, and I took it.

I was lead off into the men's locker room. Regulars know the deal. You put on a bracelet with your number. The locker room attendants help you change out of your clothes, put everything away, and then hit the lockers. There is an extra 10 RMB fee here for the clothes you wear for the Thai Massage. This extra charge doesn't apply for the other massages. Oy, what's a Pound here or there?

After the shower, putting on my fancy new 10 RMB clothes, I was led off to the rest area. As I was there in the late afternoon, there was not too much activity. The bartender gave me a Coke, and I asked to get the massage quickly since my time was limited. After a while, a youngish "mamasan" asked me to go upstairs and led me down a dark series of corridors to a massage room.

Eventually the massage girl entered. They keep the rooms fairly dark, so it's difficult to see too much. The girl I had is local (as she had a thick Cantonese accent when speaking Mandarin. English was very limited.) Facilities seemed reasonably clean, but old. Not terrible, not great, but in the middle of the scale. The "massage" started with me faced down. Not great, but decent, and a lot of attention paid to the posterior.

Keep in mind, I thought this place was just a HJ-type place. My masseuse, #22, claimed to be new to this establishment. I believe she was new to this sauna, but not new to the sauna business. Difficult to see exactly, but probably in the mid- to late-20s. Nice personality, and we chatted a while during the massage. It's always better to develop some relationship with the masseuse. In this case helpful to know some Chinese. (Though Cantonese would have been better!)

After about 20 minutes, she ducked out for a bit to get a "glass of water". This turned out to be the requisite equipment for fire and ice. She did some of the water-gurgling-on-the-back routine, and then asked me to turn over. (I much obliged.) Off come the shorts, and then starts the BBBJ with fire and ice. Quite good. During this time, she grabbed my hand to put on her tits and asked me to feel her up. No problem.

Some more of this, and then out comes the 'dom, and she asked whether she or I should be on top. I'm a lazy guy, and asked her to be on top. (And at this time, very pleasantly surprised it's not just a HJ establishment!) What followed was one of the more passionate experiences I've ever had in a sauna. Maybe she's new to this place, but I felt that Miss #22 was enthusiastic, and seemed into it. First, she was on top, and I sucked on her nipples for a while (which she seemed to like). Eventually we switched, with her on the bottom. A lot of sauna girls give you a feeling of a definite routine, but not here. She seemed more open and flexible. No kissing (though I didn't try.) No DATY (again, didn't try) , but overall, I felt it was one of the better sauna experiences I've had. Be advised, this may be due to the fact I was only expecting an HJ and got much more.

I would definitely go back and ask for #22. No, she's not the youngest or prettiest. But overall an excellent provider. She asked me to call her next time I'm in Guangzhou. (So here's hoping my friend needs another favour done soon!)

After the deed, we chatted for a bit. I needed to catch a train back to HK, so I didn't stay the full 90 minutes. I didn't get the feeling there would be an opportunity for a second pop even if I didn't have to get back home. I just headed back down to the showers, washed off, changed back up, gave the locker attendants a tip (they seemed like decent guys, and weren't pushy, so I gave them 50 RMB) , and then out the door. This place makes you pre-pay for the massage, so nothing to do when I left. Just back out on the street, squinting in the sun, looking for a taxi to get back to Guangzhou East Station.

Hope this is helpful, and have fun in Guangzhou.[/QUOTE]Thanks Gao Xing for this info, I went there today first time in a Chinese sauna very good experience.

After paying 368 and 10 for the sauna clothes mamassam took me to the dark rooms and send a cute girl around 20-25. Very pleasen massage, I felt so good after working for many days here in China, then she went out for the glass of water and starteed sucking all parts of my body before BJ and then the important part, first she on the top, she got excited because very noisy, betwen changing pose I touche her all over her body and I noted she got very wet, then I was on the top raise her legs, she started screaming more and more and finish. Then I took a shower and give 40 rmb tip to the guys outside. She did her best to speak to me in english cause I don't speak Chinese at all, so this add more points to this place, you don't need to speak Chinese to have a good experience in thsi place. I didn't notice which number was her, but I will try to go again before I leave.

Any sugestion for FS only near this place? Fow a quick visit.

And thanks again info, really a good place, worth every rmb I spent there.

[QUOTE=Doley91; 1169714]I want to stay in a GF hotel in guangzhou when I am there in 2 weeks. I am currently booked in the Garden Hotel because my vendor suggested I stay there. I can easily change hotels but I won't stay in a dump. I am used to 5 star accomodations. Any suggestions where I can stay that is nice that will allow me to bring a WG back to my room?

By the way, I would prefer not to stay in Tianhe area. Seems like the Huanshi Dong Lu area is easier to find women, MP, etc.

HELP ME WITH INFO PLEASE. [/QUOTE]I think you will have a harder time finding high end GF hotels in HuanshiDong area, while all the 5 stars in TienHe will be GF.

It is only 10 min taxi ride and I am sure the gilrs will be fine with that. I suggest the Westin as they have a bar (qBar) that always has some WG there, even though might be lower quality, but they are right there so just in case you do not find a good one in other parts of the city, you can always have your last resort right downstairs.

Fillmore

[QUOTE=Desertman; 1169782]Hi All,

And I have read the forum for at least the last six pages, but would really appreciate some quick info.

I've read here that the Guangdong Victory Hotel is GF? Can anyone confirm?

Also, the only mention of bars is The Cave with not good quality. Any info about any others around the Victory hotel would be much appreciated.

Heading down for the first week of July. [/QUOTE]That hotel is in Shamian, so depends on where your day work is, it might be way out, so check where you need to be during the day first. Most 3 or lower stars hotels are GF, just those 4 stars are often not, all higher end. 5-6 stars, if not in Huangshidong area, should be GF, so basically, find a hotel that has a room rate above 1500, then it is a pretty sure bet it will be GF, as I have talked to many WG about this and that was what their experience were.

Fillmore

Thanks Fillmore St,

I will be seeing several potential suppliers in the Guangzhou are so need to be fairly central I would expect. If you have any recomendations of a good area to hang with a bar or two close by and any GF 3 star I would be most grateful to you.

A pleaseant lively area is often a good place to stay and if you have a certain mongering sense as I do things often work out.

I'll checlk the web for 3* and 1500 plus range at both ends.

Also any others on post yr input is welcome. I will request some suppliers to bring brochures etc to me at the hotel, and others to pick me up to see their factory.

Basically have three meeting days full but want to chill and play in the evenings.

Much appreciated as I don't know the area.

I can return the favour though for Thailand, Hong Kong, Dubai, Bahrain.

Many thanks

[QUOTE=Desertman; 1170362]Thanks Fillmore St,

I will be seeing several potential suppliers in the Guangzhou are so need to be fairly central I would expect. If you have any recomendations of a good area to hang with a bar or two close by and any GF 3 star I would be most grateful to you.

A pleaseant lively area is often a good place to stay and if you have a certain mongering sense as I do things often work out.

I'll checlk the web for 3* and 1500 plus range at both ends.

Also any others on post yr input is welcome. I will request some suppliers to bring brochures etc to me at the hotel, and others to pick me up to see their factory.

Basically have three meeting days full but want to chill and play in the evenings.

Much appreciated as I don't know the area.

I can return the favour though for Thailand, Hong Kong, Dubai, Bahrain.

Many thanks[/QUOTE]I will need to pick your brain about HK sometime, Desertman, but here is my thoughts on hotels in Guangzhou.

1. Garden Hotels location is best for business, no question. That area is best for fun and mongering, but maybe because of that very reason, the hotels in that area are not GF. You can go out and have fun but just don't bring that back to the hotel. All the WGs can take you to their apt, or some budget hourly hotel, but we don't want that right? We want to take our time and we want the security of our nice hotel rooms, but sorry, not in the best area of Guangzhou.

2. Tianhe area is the next best for business and most hotels there are GF, not everyone, but mostly are. I had already mentioned the Westin, which is 1700 and up. In general, not much night life in Tianhe area, there are a few bars, like the QBar inside Westin, but overall, you won't spend your night time there for fun, that is for sure, but Garden Hotel area is just 10 min taxi ride and another night life area is along the river and that is about 15min away, so it is fine to stay in Tianhe. Aside from the more expensive hotels, I know of at least two 3* that are GF:

A. President Hotel, this one is in the bustling electronics market area (Gangding). That place is usually extremely crowded during the day and difficult to get a taxi and not so clean but the hotel is right next to subway stop, cost about 350 a night. You can bring back girls and no questions asked.

B. China Mayor Paza Hotel, this hotel is closed to the Westin and right next to the landmark Citic Tower, so its location is very good. It is also next to subway stop and getting a taxi is also easier. You can easily get to Garden Hotel area in less then 10 min from here as it sits right on the main boulevard that connects the two areas. This area is white collar and very clean. Room cost is about 650 a night. I had brought girls in recently, but registration was required, so more strict then President Hotel, so just make sure the girl has her I'd card with her and most WGs in bars do.

3. The 3rd area for business is the old city center. It is more congested due to older and narrower streets. I had recommended Hotel Canton (374 Beijing Road) before and others had confirmed it is GF. Room rate is about 400.

Fillmore