East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=Levitian]Hey, Irc Lo,

Wasn't it you who initiated the rumors of Song Lin being HIV positive here in this threat, a couple of years ago?

Mate, I can tell you, you really did cause some serious trouble and panic with this action back then. I don't know if Guybert56 is still around or occasionally reading this threat, but I am quite sure he easily would second my words here.

Levitian[/QUOTE]Indeed, a couple of years ago someone working at WP told me that was why she left, today she says differently, sorry if I did creat a panic but at the time I felt I had to let people know, especially the ones doing her unprotected. She now looks in perfect health, believe me!

I do not know how to PM sorry.

Next time I will have her and her friend, she also used to work in WP and they are from the same village.

Thanks for the great posts and directions for Golden 18 club..i was there on Tuesday around 10pm and had a really great time...i picked number 61 who is 20 years old with MASSIVE tits...you really cant miss her....great service and a really nice girl....loved that weird Gel stuff they use to do the slippery massage on the inflatable mattress...price was 850RMB approx and very well worth it...really nice establishment and great girls.

When I was leaving i met some Chinese/Australian guys in the changing room..they confirmed that the owner has good connections and that they have no problems although other places are getting pressure because of Shanghai expo...they were also firmly of the opinion that this was the best place in town

Thanks again for the tips and directions.

[QUOTE=Bowerboy]Thanks for the great posts and directions for Golden 18 club..i was there on Tuesday around 10pm and had a really great time...i picked number 61 who is 20 years old with MASSIVE tits...you really cant miss her....great service and a really nice girl....loved that weird Gel stuff they use to do the slippery massage on the inflatable mattress...price was 850RMB approx and very well worth it...really nice establishment and great girls.

When I was leaving i met some Chinese/Australian guys in the changing room..they confirmed that the owner has good connections and that they have no problems although other places are getting pressure because of Shanghai expo...they were also firmly of the opinion that this was the best place in town

Thanks again for the tips and directions.[/QUOTE]Just went there about an hour ago around 1AM, door was closed! Is 1AM too late for some action? Also stopped by Shanghai hotel since it's not far away, still closed. For who that reported earlier it's re-opened, hold your horses. Disappointed.

We will believe you when we can check it out for ourselves. Location.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Irc Lo]Indeed, a couple of years ago someone working at WP told me that was why she left, today she says differently, sorry if I did creat a panic but at the time I felt I had to let people know, especially the ones doing her unprotected. She now looks in perfect health, believe me!

I do not know how to PM sorry.

Next time I will have her and her friend, she also used to work in WP and they are from the same village.[/QUOTE]

I'll be in Shanghai for my first alone visit on Sep 6 and again on Sept 24. Staying at the Donghu Hotel on Donghu rd, [url]http://www.donghuhotel.com/en/address.htm[/url]

I'd like to try a sauna place around there or some take-out. Need some guidance and advice. Have contracted a female tour-guide to spend the whole trip with me, but don't know how cool she'd be about my mongering. Any help would be appreciated.

If you're ever in Toronto, let me know. The local board is Terb.ca where I'm also Prince Henry

[QUOTE=Wysoh]Just went there about an hour ago around 1AM, door was closed! Is 1AM too late for some action? Also stopped by Shanghai hotel since it's not far away, still closed. For who that reported earlier it's re-opened, hold your horses. Disappointed.[/QUOTE]Went to CLUB 18 on Sunday night around 9pm. Eerie silence. No lights on ground floor reception. Lift stuck at 5th floor. No soul around. Another victim to LE or sunday is the day off?

There is a 50/50 chance or better that the sauna is full service. If it isn't you are not far from several full service saunas and Club 18. Look at a map of Shanghai I posted earlier and rtff. It's in English. Directions are in the forum.The hotel will most likely have some English speakers and they will help you -- if you ask them discreetly.

[QUOTE=Prince Henry]I'll be in Shanghai for my first alone visit on Sep 6 and again on Sept 24. Staying at the Donghu Hotel on Donghu rd, [url]http://www.donghuhotel.com/en/address.htm[/url]

I'd like to try a sauna place around there or some take-out. Need some guidance and advice. Have contracted a female tour-guide to spend the whole trip with me, but don't know how cool she'd be about my mongering. Any help would be appreciated.

If you're ever in Toronto, let me know. The local board is Terb.ca where I'm also Prince Henry[/QUOTE]

In the past, I have stayed at the Donghu 3 times and find it a great deal and centrally located. From there, you can take a taxi to 999 Tianyaoqiao Rd. (also the name of the sauna). The front desk can write the address down on a card for you. or you can take the subway. It is very close to the Shanghai Stadium in the SW of the city.
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To get to Pudong, its a short walk to the subway, a couple of train rides and you're there. Not sure what is still open or not in Pudong. I have been to World Plaza B2 (closed), Sacrosa (i think its open), and the Merrylin Hotel (no word). All are 10-15 minutes walk from a subway station.


Never tried the hotel massage. But will probably guess that it is has extras, all of them do.

Across the street from the Donghu is a legit massage place. Go there for a normal massage and then ask for the girl to come to your room. You can negotiate other services directly with her. There is probably a better chance that you will get good service from the girl here since you know where she works and could easily complain.


[QUOTE=Prince Henry]I'll be in Shanghai for my first alone visit on Sep 6 and again on Sept 24. Staying at the Donghu Hotel on Donghu rd, [url]http://www.donghuhotel.com/en/address.htm[/url]

I'd like to try a sauna place around there or some take-out. Need some guidance and advice. Have contracted a female tour-guide to spend the whole trip with me, but don't know how cool she'd be about my mongering. Any help would be appreciated.

If you're ever in Toronto, let me know. The local board is Terb.ca where I'm also Prince Henry[/QUOTE]

Sarcosa open and very good service. Merrylin open with very good service. Red rope may be gone at Merrylin. In the last month never taken to a room with red rope at Merrylin. I have a steady at both.

[QUOTE=Atapchee]In the past, I have stayed at the Donghu 3 times and find it a great deal and centrally located. From there, you can take a taxi to 999 Tianyaoqiao Rd. (also the name of the sauna). The front desk can write the address down on a card for you. or you can take the subway. It is very close to the Shanghai Stadium in the SW of the city.
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To get to Pudong, its a short walk to the subway, a couple of train rides and you're there. Not sure what is still open or not in Pudong. I have been to World Plaza B2 (closed), Sacrosa (i think its open), and the Merrylin Hotel (no word). All are 10-15 minutes walk from a subway station.

Never tried the hotel massage. But will probably guess that it is has extras, all of them do.

Across the street from the Donghu is a legit massage place. Go there for a normal massage and then ask for the girl to come to your room. You can negotiate other services directly with her. There is probably a better chance that you will get good service from the girl here since you know where she works and could easily complain.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wysoh]Just went there about an hour ago around 1AM, door was closed! Is 1AM too late for some action?[/QUOTE]I often went there after 1pm... not a good sign! As I will be back soon, don't tell me the golden 18 club was forced to shut down! (it is IMHO the current best place in town)

A bunch of places are closing at 2am now, and sometimes when I get there at around 1:30 they say it's too late to start a session. Best try before 12 or so.

All or most massage places around Donghu hotel have been or have turned legit. If you go north on Donghu rd it will lead you into Fumin Rd, where there are two BBS in about 5-10 min walking distance on both the left and right side of the street. I've never tried them, because they look quite grotty. If you continue on Fumin Rd, you'll cross Julu Rd. At the next crossing with YanAn elevated highway turn right and walk for 10 min. On the right side there is a sauna. If you reach the next crossing with Shanxi rd, you have walked too far. Again, this Sauna is definitely not the best in Shanghai, but they offer FS for an hour at RMB700 or so.[QUOTE=Atapchee]In the past, I have stayed at the Donghu 3 times and find it a great deal and centrally located. From there, you can take a taxi to 999 Tianyaoqiao Rd. (also the name of the sauna). The front desk can write the address down on a card for you. or you can take the subway. It is very close to the Shanghai Stadium in the SW of the city.
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To get to Pudong, its a short walk to the subway, a couple of train rides and you're there. Not sure what is still open or not in Pudong. I have been to World Plaza B2 (closed), Sacrosa (i think its open), and the Merrylin Hotel (no word). All are 10-15 minutes walk from a subway station.


Never tried the hotel massage. But will probably guess that it is has extras, all of them do.

Across the street from the Donghu is a legit massage place. Go there for a normal massage and then ask for the girl to come to your room. You can negotiate other services directly with her. There is probably a better chance that you will get good service from the girl here since you know where she works and could easily complain.[/QUOTE]

I wanted to monger the first night I got in but was so tired I did not get to it until my last night. I did find Sarcosa, thanks to previous contributors here for their instructions. I mustered the courage to go up and found someone who spoke English but no one else did. Was told the place closes at 2AM and the price RMB676 or something like that which I thought was reasonable compared with other similar places. He seemed a little jittery and so was I. I copied down the Chinese characters as best I could from a previous posting here of a fellow ISG member a card scanned into PDF. There is no English signage to say this is Sarcosa. I went back and found that most characters seem to match to my satisfaction.

During the day, Sunday 23rd Aug, I found Golden 18, it look closed and had 2 chinese written notices on the glass door. Unfortunately, I do not read Chinese and can’t tell you what they said. It was about 4 PM. I returned the next day about 11PM at night, this time the 2 notices were gone and in the dark, the place definitely looked closed.

There were a couple of FL around the streets near a well preserved at deco style Paramount cinema. Nothing to write home about. I took a taxi from there to Zapata’s, it was only about 11 or 12RMB. (I was already prepared and got the hotel concierge to write the address for me and instructions for the driver to take me there). There was only 1 good looking girl there and she was with someone else, so I just left.

I cabbed back to Sarcosa and went through, the English speaking doorman had gone and no one spoke English except 1 of the attendees. I felt like cattle being herded from one spot to the next by these people, people were speaking to me in a language I could not understand I just responded with what I thought was the correct reaction to their instructions, just like a cow. But don’t get me wrong, the place is safe, “leow wai” friendly and you will not get ripped off (or people trying to value add services or extras like Macau saunas) the RMB676 is all you pay, all inclusive.

From memory, here are the steps, as you get passed on from 1 section to the next dealing with different people along the way.
1. greeting man or door man wearing white shirt
2. locker room attendant
3. shower attendant
4. drying / shorts and robe attendant (1 guy here spoke English)
5. another guy leads you to a room with small lcd tv (wait for about 1 min)
6. lady who presents the girls (there were 7 or 8 girls)

I picked #169, she told me her name but I can’t remember. She was the most attractive girl there. Looks about 8/10. Petite slim yet athletic. Most Chinese girls are flat chested and flat bum, she had a nice rounded bum. She led me to one of the many rooms there. Overall 7/10 (good bbbj and ok FJ). In about 35 mins, I was done and wanted to leave, but she said my time was not up. I had the impression she might get in trouble if I left early, so I stayed. We really had nothing to say like some others have pointed out, if you can’t speak the language, she said to me in English “I love you”, I figured that was about the only words she knew. The remaining time, she cut my nails and gave me a bit of a manicure. In that time I heard 2 rounds of moaning and groaning from the next room, I guess that guy had multiple shots. (I am way too old for that). I had a bit of a GFE without the DFK.

When done, I was handed back to bathrobe attendant, shower attendant, locker room attendant, then only did I pay at the front desk entrance manned by 2 girls.

Overall a good experience which would be better on a second visit, now that I know the ropes.

Other noteworthy mentions are BBS on the corner very near Marriot Pudong. Was approached by a FL outside Intercontinental, but she was too old.

Surprisingly no touts around baiting with 200RMB girls (avoid these people at all costs), LE must have cleaned the place up a little.

report for sarcosa.

afternoon price 550. there are only a few of the attendants that speak or understand any english. smile alot, they will guide you to where you want to go with hand motions. they speak to the next guy up the chain. time for the girls is important. minimum time is one hour but they may go over, this depends on you and the girl. they usually call the desk before you leave and they will expect you to say something to the front desk. if you find someone with whom you can develop chemistry, repeats get better, at least that is my experience.

[quote=poopbunny]i wanted to monger the first night i got in but was so tired i did not get to it until my last night. i did find sarcosa, thanks to previous contributors here for their instructions. i mustered the courage to go up and found someone who spoke english but no one else did. was told the place closes at 2am and the price rmb676 or something like that which i thought was reasonable compared with other similar places. he seemed a little jittery and so was i. i copied down the chinese characters as best i could from a previous posting here of a fellow isg member a card scanned into pdf. there is no english signage to say this is sarcosa. i went back and found that most characters seem to match to my satisfaction.

during the day, sunday 23rd aug, i found golden 18, it look closed and had 2 chinese written notices on the glass door. unfortunately, i do not read chinese and can’t tell you what they said. it was about 4 pm. i returned the next day about 11pm at night, this time the 2 notices were gone and in the dark, the place definitely looked closed.

there were a couple of fl around the streets near a well preserved at deco style paramount cinema. nothing to write home about. i took a taxi from there to zapata’s, it was only about 11 or 12rmb. (i was already prepared and got the hotel concierge to write the address for me and instructions for the driver to take me there). there was only 1 good looking girl there and she was with someone else, so i just left.

i cabbed back to sarcosa and went through, the english speaking doorman had gone and no one spoke english except 1 of the attendees. i felt like cattle being herded from one spot to the next by these people, people were speaking to me in a language i could not understand i just responded with what i thought was the correct reaction to their instructions, just like a cow. but don’t get me wrong, the place is safe, “leow wai” friendly and you will not get ripped off (or people trying to value add services or extras like macau saunas) the rmb676 is all you pay, all inclusive.

from memory, here are the steps, as you get passed on from 1 section to the next dealing with different people along the way.

1. greeting man or door man wearing white shirt
2. locker room attendant
3. shower attendant
4. drying / shorts and robe attendant (1 guy here spoke english)
5. another guy leads you to a room with small lcd tv (wait for about 1 min)
6. lady who presents the girls (there were 7 or 8 girls)

i picked #169, she told me her name but i can’t remember. she was the most attractive girl there. looks about 8/10. petite slim yet athletic. most chinese girls are flat chested and flat bum, she had a nice rounded bum. she led me to one of the many rooms there. overall 7/10 (good bbbj and ok fj). in about 35 mins, i was done and wanted to leave, but she said my time was not up. i had the impression she might get in trouble if i left early, so i stayed. we really had nothing to say like some others have pointed out, if you can’t speak the language, she said to me in english “i love you”, i figured that was about the only words she knew. the remaining time, she cut my nails and gave me a bit of a manicure. in that time i heard 2 rounds of moaning and groaning from the next room, i guess that guy had multiple shots. (i am way too old for that). i had a bit of a gfe without the dfk.

when done, i was handed back to bathrobe attendant, shower attendant, locker room attendant, then only did i pay at the front desk entrance manned by 2 girls.

overall a good experience which would be better on a second visit, now that i know the ropes.

other noteworthy mentions are bbs on the corner very near marriot pudong. was approached by a fl outside intercontinental, but she was too old.

surprisingly no touts around baiting with 200rmb girls (avoid these people at all costs), le must have cleaned the place up a little.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Ocean25]Guys,

What does it mean when the woman has a red string around her waist? I see several of these in the photo gallery.[/QUOTE]The birth sign year is considered very unlucky, red is lucky, something red must be worn at all times. Red knickers would suffice, but then there are those who remove them quite often!

[QUOTE=Irc Lo]Indeed, a couple of years ago someone working at WP told me that was why she left, today she says differently, sorry if I did creat a panic but at the time I felt I had to let people know, especially the ones doing her unprotected. She now looks in perfect health, believe me!

I do not know how to PM sorry.

Next time I will have her and her friend, she also used to work in WP and they are from the same village.[/QUOTE]

Irc Lo,

The reason/raison-d'etre of this forum is to share information. It would be nice if you could give us hints where to find this joint.
I assume it is in the GUBEI area, but this mainly based on your assumption that it is a 'KOREAN' place.
Could you be more specific?

Thanks!

Levitian

[QUOTE=Levitian]Irc Lo,

The reason/raison-d'etre of this forum is to share information. It would be nice if you could give us hints where to find this joint.

I assume it is in the GUBEI area, but this mainly based on your assumption that it is a 'KOREAN' place.

Could you be more specific?

Thanks!

Levitian[/QUOTE]I found a post on a Chinese language forum talking about a sauna which is "mainly Korean." I don't know if it's the same place Irc Lo is talking about, nor have I been there, but I'll gladly provide the directions and maybe one of you can check it out.

The closest English transation is Izu Sauna, located at 301 Shimen Er Lu. Looking at the map, that would put it near the intersection of Wuding Rd and Shimen Er Road, approximately 800 north of exit 3 of the Nanjing West green metro line station.

In Chinese, here are the directions:

Name: 伊豆桑拿会所

Address:石门二路301号

There's also a note in there that says "17:00" (5 pm), dunno whether that is the opening time. Also a note that it costs 650 RMB.

Hey guys,

Will be back to sh soon. Is g18 really closed?

What happened to Sacrosa they could re-open? Is it considere safe? Any known raids there?

Thanks!

Do you rtff much?

Even the last week? Or is that too demanding?

[QUOTE=JoyofSex]Hey guys,

Will be back to sh soon. Is g18 really closed?

What happened to Sacrosa they could re-open? Is it considere safe? Any known raids there?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JoyofSex]Hey guys,

Will be back to sh soon. Is g18 really closed?

What happened to Sacrosa they could re-open? Is it considere safe? Any known raids there?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Went to sacrosa last night. WG told me that PuXi is under tighter scrutiny than PuDong. And rumor goes that the focus might be shifted to PuDong soon. She also told me that the places in PuXi that are still open have been asked to close early. That might be the case with G18. Boys, it's getting really close to 10/1, I'd be cautious out there.

Be safe

[QUOTE=Waldeck2]Do you rtff much?

Even the last week? Or is that too demanding?[/QUOTE]I did and do, but both questions were barely touched. If g18 is only closed late night or completely. Why sacrosa could open if it is considered safe by the guys here who have connections and may know better than the irregular visitors (like me) who just post their reports.

On the operations we enjoy. Talk is/was that Oct 1st is going to re-arrange who is open and when. Most of the people who frequent these shops are not foreigners, they are either locals or Chinese from out of Shanghai. I frequent Sarcosa and Merrylin. Sarcosa was closed for two weeks. Merrylin will most likely close for several weeks either before Oct or during. Try another place. You can visit 4 or 5 in an afternoon. I doubt if all of them will close at the same time. I have never had any concern about safety.- dumb luck maybe. I always go early afternoon. I have several phone numbers and qq numbers. Treat the girls well and they will keep you in the loop. Hey, works for me.

[QUOTE=JoyofSex]I did and do, but both questions were barely touched. If g18 is only closed late night or completely. Why sacrosa could open if it is considered safe by the guys here who have connections and may know better than the irregular visitors (like me) who just post their reports.[/QUOTE]

Actually there were very few Sacrosa reports since it was was re-opened, which is why I went for G18 first, second was FL action at Zapata's and my last choice Sacrosa turned out alright.

Sometimes when it lacks reports, I wonder if management changes hands, maybe go legit, or worse change hands to a set up / KTV like scam. I can confirm at least recently, this was not the case.

Seeing some of these Chinese hotties walking around during the day on the street, you wonder about getting a piece of that in a P4P environment. There are definitely risks which is why I was eager to get out of the place when done. I usually hate taking any risks because of LE or scams, but I guess the little head called the shots on that occasion.

With G18's status still ??....any news on the other soapy 999. No reports for sometime about it. They were also supposed to be connected/protected like G18

hi everyone,

i'm a new member of that forum, i hope i'll be able to bring you as much information as i can, firstly i want to apologies in first place for my poor english (english is not my native language), secondly big thanks to you guys for all your reporting, specialy on sacrosa and g18. so here comes my report:

1-went to sacrosa after reading this forum for the first time, it was a good experience for a first time but nothing really big to report just normal stuff, the girl i had was quite good, tall and pretty but breasts not that good if you are into big ones, i'm not sure about the number tho i think it was 137, don't think she does cim tho.

2-went to g18 around 1 and 2 pm after some more reading, the mamasan was very nice with me. i took 23 for my first time there, really good she work here for 6 month so she already have some experience, i'm not really into newbies, i'm pretty hard to pop so i just did once and after it was to late to get another =(, any way she is good in swinching possition and i didn't felt she has faking too much, i really don't like fakes. good gfe during the 10 minutes left.

3-went back to g18 around 4 and 5 pm yesterday, but this time for 2 girls! lots of new comers as they tell me, yea i can't really say, i'm new here. i picked up 55 and 92 cause i like to change. 55 is a experienced one more professionnal tall and quiet pretty, more bad girl style but make to many fake noise that i don't like and breast very small too. 92 is a new one arrived 3 days ago, so not a lots of experience but very very pretty to my taste and very fun, and breast are perfect for me! not too big but not to small, she is not very tall tho. i think next time i try her alone, i think she was a bit impressed to be with an other girl who has lot more experience. so the overall experience was great even if i didn't do all the things i fantasy about xd.

4- so guys i investigate a bit about the closing they had for 4 or 5 days at g18, actually they just had a bad leak so they havd to do some work. but it's still open and will be for a will. they told me that because the place was quiet new the owner didn't earn that much money yet so le won't come bother for now, but they told me that and again i'm newbi so. i asked also if they were going to close for the october thing and the answer was that they didn't know anything about that. so will see! any way i picked up the mamasan name card and i gived her my phone number so i think she might tell me if something is going on! i will tell you then as soon as i can! now i guess maybe you have some question about me. how i know so much things for a newbi well first i'm not chinese but europeen and then i speak a very very good chinese so that cool to speak with chinese for me!

so basikly that's all i have to say. good hunt all!

shiva

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[QUOTE=Levitian]Irc Lo,

The reason/raison-d'etre of this forum is to share information. It would be nice if you could give us hints where to find this joint.

I assume it is in the GUBEI area, but this mainly based on your assumption that it is a 'KOREAN' place.

Could you be more specific?

Thanks!

Levitian[/QUOTE]I know that however I was just sending a bottled message in the sea as she asked help to find her "prince-lover". I don't think she wants advertisement as she had before (that gave her lot of pressure). She is very afraid of getting RAID as she has many girlfriends who has already been caught in other places. Does she know you by the way? She only mentioned to me 1 customer she really want to see again. Certainly out of a Sauna and probably for free, what a pity that was not me!

It may surprise you but what most of us want to know where this sauna is located. We know you are quite taken with her, and that's for you. We want to know where she is located. I personally don't give a sweet damn what she said to you.

[QUOTE=Irc Lo]I know that however I was just sending a bottled message in the sea as she asked help to find her "prince-lover". I don't think she wants advertisement as she had before (that gave her lot of pressure). She is very afraid of getting RAID as she has many girlfriends who has already been caught in other places. Does she know you by the way? She only mentioned to me 1 customer she really want to see again. Certainly out of a Sauna and probably for free, what a pity that was not me![/QUOTE]

Can confirm BaDong Sauna is still functioning as of last Friday!

BaDong Sauna was reported on several months ago - it's in the same building as the Marriott Courtyard in PuDong - around the corner from the front entrance - up the escalator to the 4th floor.

Do a search on BaDong - you'll find several good reports from before with exact address and instructions.

This place has the water-bed soapy style, as well as non... 90 min soapy was 800 (a bit expensive), non soapy she said was 650 (or something similar).

Mami's name is Xiao Xian - set me up with #7 YangYang. She's a petite little thing -- nice breasts. A bit "weathered" at 23, but a real trooper and damn hard worker.

Mami ssaid ot too many lao wei customers - many Japanese, Koreans, Taiwanese, and of course Chinese.

I was in about 5pm Friday afternoon - only one other customer that I saw...

Cheers & be safe!

Asdv

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Thanks to the posts informing us that G18 is back in action after getting the leaking pipe ( sic) fixed. Decided to give it a go. Went there at 9pm today. Was my 3rd time there and boy, did I get 3rd time lucky.

The usual routine till the fish bowl. About 8 of them there. After getting a bit disappointed by the skinny ones last 2 times, went for the most buxom one : #8. Leggy beauty with great natural C cups. From Anhui.

On to the room with round red bed and mirror on the ceiling. Good signs started from the initial clean-up/shower which happens sitting on the stool. Unlike the previous encounters where this routine was very clinical, she started rubbing herself against me from here itself. Allowed me to gently nibble and stroke her at the right places. But no DFK, or peck even on the lips, just LFK. On to the soapy and a great routine there. 30 mins were up by now. She figured out by now that I dont like fake noises and adjusted from there on.

Onto the bed, couldn't hold myself too long as she started the hot and cold BBBJ, with some great ball licking ( AR was on offer, but I wasn’t in the mood). CIM was ok with her. Cuddle for next 10-15 mins ( I know very little mandarin, so conversation was minimum. just kept smiling and blowing her kisses), till Xiao Di di started stirring again. Surprisingly she enjoyed DATY and it was fairly clean there and not too much vegetation, so I made a dive for it. Then onto the real show. Next 30-40 mins enjoyed her in various positions and finished in mish. She seemed to be genuinely enjoying the action. Shower again, a few cuddles and bye bye. Came out smiling like a cheshire cat.

All along, great atttitude, no rush, no fuss. My guess is she is new.

A real beauty espl when she ties her hair on the back.
Face : 8/10, Lovely smile
Bottom: 7/10
Attitude : 9/10
Skill : 8/10

rmb 790, with the VIP card. Worth it.

I am going for repeats next week. Treat her gently, till then.

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[QUOTE=Irc Lo]I know that however I was just sending a bottled message in the sea as she asked help to find her "prince-lover". I don't think she wants advertisement as she had before (that gave her lot of pressure). She is very afraid of getting RAID as she has many girlfriends who has already been caught in other places. Does she know you by the way? She only mentioned to me 1 customer she really want to see again. Certainly out of a Sauna and probably for free, what a pity that was not me! [/QUOTE]Irc Lo,

I had a good time with her, and if she not completely faked it, she also did like me a lot, at least, that's what she said. I didn't see her very often, 2.3 times, but it was always nice. Back then, she used to tell me how she hates the job because all feelings etc. Were fake.

I do speak fluently Chinese, but I am not 25 years anymore, I therefore might not be "the Prince".

I exchanged some SMS with her, during her time in B2 and also afterwards, when she left.

Anyway, say Hello, to her, when you meet her. For me, it is good to know that she actually is fine and did not catch HIV, as I thought until only recently.

Levitian

They will be on vacation for about a week. Maybe more.

I would stay out until new reports are generated.

Was at Park 97 with a couple of friends, and was propositioned by the manager to sit a girl for a small tip. Am curious if these girls go out, and what the pay structure would be like. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Levitian]Irc Lo,

I had a good time with her, and if she not completely faked it, she also did like me a lot, at least, that's what she said. I didn't see her very often, 2.3 times, but it was always nice. Back then, she used to tell me how she hates the job because all feelings etc. Were fake.

I do speak fluently Chinese, but I am not 25 years anymore, I therefore might not be "the Prince".

I exchanged some SMS with her, during her time in B2 and also afterwards, when she left.

Anyway, say Hello, to her, when you meet her. For me, it is good to know that she actually is fine and did not catch HIV, as I thought until only recently.

Levitian[/QUOTE]Hey Levitian,

Don't worry about her health, I can tell you she is in perfect shape and full of energy. Unless my friend Fernando Alonzo thinks different?

Ha ha ha

Hi guys,

I just wanted to know if the bbs information of last year where still accurate, specialy for the jingan district (or even better north of renmin guangchang). Price about 150 to 300 for FS. And where can have a nice BBBJCIM or cof for not to many rmb (max 300) in a bbs (with nice looking working girls).

During that I'm gonna go and see a bit around there and keep you inform of what's going on. Thank to all for sharing!

Good Hunt!

Shiva

So I went in the north area of jingan this afternoon to check out for bbs. Well. I didn't find much. I went on yuyao lu: did find nothing. I went on wuning lu: nothing, on wuding lu: nothing, wuding west lu: nothing, Changping lu: nothing, Yanping lu: nothing, Jiaozhou lu: nothing, finally on kangding lu more east past jiangning lu I think, I found the losiest bbs I never could imagine, I don't even know if I can call that a bbs. 50 for HJ, girls. Sorry I should say ladies (they could be my mum) I give them 3, 5 on a scale of 10 because I'm not a bad guy. After that I went for a beer on xikang lu, and finaly decide to go to the massage on this street for 338 health massage. Ok I got ripped but I didn't know what else to do XD. Please guys help me I think I can't recognize any bbs shop. Is there some signs on the front? Even in Chinese? Do any one know any good address? I'll try to report as soon as I have some valuable experience. Good Hunt all!

Shiva

Hoping the informed can assist.. Of course I have RTFF, but despite this, "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For".

Seems my two-stop China trips. Shanghai / Dongguan yield such drastically different types of fun.

Shanghai. Sauna

DG. KTV

I'm a fan of the KTV, but have had less success in finding them in SH. LA Cafe is great but expensive. Are there any recommended others. Or perhaps KTV that have nightclubs with girls that you can choose vs. Getting the room. I often travel alone, complicating the costs involved in KTV.

I also have enjoyed prwling Kapata's, Park 97, and Bourbon Street, but over past two years it just hasn't been the selection / thrill factor.. Are these places still decent places to go for non-pro 800 RMB takeout?

Finally. Seen all ther posts on the Saunas up and running, but does anyone know if Buo Duo (near Century Mart) is still in business?

Thanks for helping. Anyone looking for a wingman Oct 17 to dsy 21st / 22nd, let me know!

D23

Saunas very strict at present. Sarcosa closed, Heting closed. If other saunas, soapies open, be very careful. I was advised to wait a week, maybe longer.

[QUOTE=Douglas23]Hoping the informed can assist.. Of course I have RTFF, but despite this, "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For".

Seems my two-stop China trips. Shanghai / Dongguan yield such drastically different types of fun.

Shanghai. Sauna

DG. KTV

I'm a fan of the KTV, but have had less success in finding them in SH. LA Cafe is great but expensive. Are there any recommended others. Or perhaps KTV that have nightclubs with girls that you can choose vs. Getting the room. I often travel alone, complicating the costs involved in KTV.

I also have enjoyed prwling Kapata's, Park 97, and Bourbon Street, but over past two years it just hasn't been the selection / thrill factor.. Are these places still decent places to go for non-pro 800 RMB takeout?

Finally. Seen all ther posts on the Saunas up and running, but does anyone know if Buo Duo (near Century Mart) is still in business?

Thanks for helping. Anyone looking for a wingman Oct 17 to dsy 21st / 22nd, let me know!

D23[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Waldeck2]Saunas very strict at present. Sarcosa closed, Heting closed. If other saunas, soapies open, be very careful. I was advised to wait a week, maybe longer.[/QUOTE]Just went to 999, soapies only. G18 is always good, just wanted to try something different.

[QUOTE=Waldeck2]Saunas very strict at present. Sarcosa closed, Heting closed. If other saunas, soapies open, be very careful. I was advised to wait a week, maybe longer.[/QUOTE]Waldeck2,

The crack down is on all over china worst I see in 10 yr ,they are even arrest the customer ,the crack down is by goverment not the local police ,I thnk it will get worst until after the national hoilday .

Fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=Waldeck2]Saunas very strict at present. Sarcosa closed, Heting closed. If other saunas, soapies open, be very careful. I was advised to wait a week, maybe longer.[/QUOTE]

The National Day is approaching, always time for major clean-ups, so I would be extremely careful these days.

Levitian

[QUOTE=Levitian]The National Day is approaching, always time for major clean-ups, so I would be extremely careful these days.

Levitian[/QUOTE]

How can one be careful? Not go to these Saunas? Rats - I will be there this week - that's no fun. What about G18?? Any "safer" than others??Reports show that this place has it in with the authorities.
Any suggestions??? Or just stay with the local talent from hotels and bars??
Shanghai experts what do you recommend - many thanks

[QUOTE=Firebird]How can one be careful? Not go to these Saunas? Rats - I will be there this week - that's no fun. What about G18?? Any "safer" than others??Reports show that this place has it in with the authorities.
Any suggestions??? Or just stay with the local talent from hotels and bars??
Shanghai experts what do you recommend - many thanks[/QUOTE]

I would and actually do avoid saunas for the time being, maybe even for the next 18 months.

Levitian

Levitian, are you serious or just playing around? 18 months?? That can't be.
Are you saying G18 is "no man's" land now? I will be staying in the Rainbow Hotel - any recommendations for nearby places? Any freelancers in local bars? I read the Forom but did not find much info for the location near the Rainbow hotel - appreciate the feedback

I do the same as Levitian, no more saunas until after Expo, especially after I experienced a raid myself.

G18 same story, I dont belive that crap on good relationship...maybe it works for short time, but if the LE wants to close down, they close down.

BBS is still (although tricky) option, sicne you only spend there max 15 min...
And TRL is worry-free...


[QUOTE=Firebird]Levitian, are you serious or just playing around? 18 months?? That can't be.
Are you saying G18 is "no man's" land now? I will be staying in the Rainbow Hotel - any recommendations for nearby places? Any freelancers in local bars? I read the Forom but did not find much info for the location near the Rainbow hotel - appreciate the feedback[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Firebird]How can one be careful? Not go to these Saunas? Rats - I will be there this week - that's no fun. What about G18?? Any "safer" than others??Reports show that this place has it in with the authorities.

Any suggestions??? Or just stay with the local talent from hotels and bars?
Shanghai experts what do you recommend - many thanks[/QUOTE]Fly to Macau?

[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]Hey Levitian,

Don't worry about her health, I can tell you she is in perfect shape and full of energy. Unless my friend Fernando Alonzo thinks different?

Ha ha ha[/QUOTE]Yes! Worth every suck or stroke or whatever you can imagine.

G18 is still open but heavily overpriced for the looks and attitude of the gals and I do not think it is safe in any way.

BBS also very hidden now, go to Thailand friends.

(how could I ever differ from you after that present.)

FA

Just passed by Excalibur on Nanyang Lu near Tongren Lu. There are some pretty sexy looking ladies at the door and from the look of it, they work there. I wonder if anyone has experience with girls from that place? How are they? What's the cost? Thanks,

With the crackdown on saunas and the police arresting customers, I think it is just too dangerous to visit any sauna right now. I was just in Shanghai and there are many safe opporunities on TRL. Go to Malones, Judys, Manhattan, Blue Frog at night. These places are crawling with working girls. Talk to them negotiate a fair price and you can have safe fun. I have not heard about any issues with this type of P4P. Your only risk is at Manhattans because there are quite a few ladyboys who are also looking for a date.


AL

[QUOTE=AsianLover]With the crackdown on saunas and the police arresting customers, I think it is just too dangerous to visit any sauna right now. I was just in Shanghai and there are many safe opporunities on TRL. Go to Malones, Judys, Manhattan, Blue Frog at night. These places are crawling with working girls. Talk to them negotiate a fair price and you can have safe fun. I have not heard about any issues with this type of P4P. Your only risk is at Manhattans because there are quite a few ladyboys who are also looking for a date.


AL[/QUOTE]

Usuallly I stay in the Holiday Inn in Pudong and I am familiar with this area but this time company is putting me up in the Rainbow hotel on West Yan'an road (Yan'an Xi Lu)

What does TRL mean? I also made several searches in the forum to find location of Malones and Judys but came out empty handed - can someone provide some landmarks or names of hotels nearby so I can get a location bearing?

From all the recommendations and reports looks like saunas are out and WG "option" is the way to go. I had no problem bring WG into the Holiday Inn in Pudong - anyone have any idea if the Rainbow hotel is FG?? Not much information in the forrum. Thanks for feedback

One more question, what are the current going "rates" for LT and TLN??
I don't want to get the WG used to inflated rates
Many Thanks

[QUOTE=Firebird].... I also made several searches in the forum to find location of Malones and Judys but came out empty handed - can someone provide some landmarks or names of hotels nearby so I can get a location bearing? ....[/QUOTE]
Had the same problem in locating Malone's.
I think I even went there..without knowing it was it!
Was staying at the Ritz Cartlon that time. Exit it, waslk right to the next traffic light, cross it and take a right, after some 50 mtr there is a bar on the left that "should" be Malone's (nearly opposite an art and cultural large store)
The same street, but to the left at the traffic heads to a series of bars/pubs. Drinks are european prices (!) I have only stayed outside not went up where the bars seemed to be well packed, but whether WG are there, not a clue.

[QUOTE=Eyebrow777]Fly to Macau?[/QUOTE]
if the crackdown is hitting Shangai only why then not trying Shenzen and the alikes?

[QUOTE=Firebird]
What does TRL mean? I also made several searches in the forum to find location of Malones and Judys but came out empty handed [/QUOTE]

TRL = Tong Ren Lu?

From the corner of West Nanjing & Tongren Lu you should be able to see Malones about 10m in TRL.

FL have been known to hang out there

Tongren lu is a street in Shanghai that runs north-south and intersects Nanjing Road. The easiest way to find it is to go to the Ritz Carlton Hotel and walk west on Nanjing Lu (making a right when leaving the hotel). At the first traffic light, you will see Tongren Lu. There is a big white bldg. on the southwest corner called the Kerry Center. Call this the "Starting Point."

If you make a right at the Starting Point, heading North, you will see Malones on your left in about 50-100m. They have tables outside but all of the action is inside. There is a Spa across the street. I point this out as a landmark. I have never been to this spa, but I have read bad reviews of it. There are also some more bars if you continue to walk North on TGL or make a right at the next intersection. Big Bamboo is on this cross street on the left. It is a good expat bar with pool tables, foosball and sports on TV, but I have only seen working girls there once or twice. Its a good place to go with friends but not recommended for mongering.

Now, if you go back to the Starting Point and head south on Tongren lu, past the Kerry Center. You will find a string of bars on your left just after the construction site. Its probably a 200m walk from Nanjing road. The bars with the working girls are Blue Frog, Judys and Manhattan. The other bars have girls that will drag you in to join them for a drink. I have not tried these places so I can't comment. Things get going after 930pm on most nights.

As far as finding a girl in Malone's, Judys, Manhattan or Blue Frog, just make eye contact. If you get the inviting smile, go over and start to talk. Chances are if she is alone and speaks English well, she is working. Most of these girls will hang out for awhile and talk or flirt with you before they move the conversation to business. The typical line is "where are you staying" or "are you staying near here." The girls will generally start high, but be prepared to negotiate. Long term should ~ 1000 RMB, Short term ~ 700. Rates vary depending on the age of the girl, her looks and ratio of men to women at the bar. Sometimes late at night when the women badly outnumber the men, a good deal can be had.

Just a word of caution, most of these girls are honest, but I there are reports of girls taking things from your hotel room. If you are going to invite a stranger to your room, make sure your valuables are hidden or locked in your hotel safe. There is no reason to tempt anyone.

One final note: sometimes tongren lu is called tonren lu but it is the same street. The actual name includes the "G" but is pronounced Tong-ren- lu. Lu = road/street.

Has anybody tried Charlie's Angels lately? Despite the ridiculous ST cost, Suki looks too good to be true!

[url]http://www.bodymassage.com.cn/LadiesDisplay.aspx?id=suki[/url]

And a friendly reminder for those new to Shanghai....

[b]*** NEVER *** FOLLOW A TOUT, MALE OF FEMALE, WHO APPROACHES YOU AROUND NANJING LU!!![/b]

Where can I find bigger condoms in Shanghai?

I ran out of the ones I brought from Canada

[QUOTE=Firebird]Levitian, are you serious or just playing around? 18 months?? That can't be.
Are you saying G18 is "no man's" land now? I will be staying in the Rainbow Hotel - any recommendations for nearby places? Any freelancers in local bars? I read the Forom but did not find much info for the location near the Rainbow hotel - appreciate the feedback[/QUOTE]Well. each to his own, I just think that the risk has become too big. Shanghai will be "clean" during the coming year of the EXPO, with a "zero tolerance" policy.

Look what is happening on the streets, drunk driving etc. They are NOT joking here, and no more "laowai" bonus. Shanghai will be a sad place for the time to come, at least in regard of BBS, saunas etc.

Well, again, this is my very own oppinion. Others might disagree. Still, I have been here long enough to realize that "the good ol' times" have gone, and I do doubt they ever will come again, after the EXPO. Maybe the saunas will reappear, but I doubt we shall see many BBS in the City area after the EXPO.

Levitian

Was at one Pudong spa Tues, they had to make a call for a girl to come in for FS, went to another in the same area on Friday - no special call necessary, girl was there no problem. Business does seem down though, hardly any customers in either place.

[QUOTE=Levitian]Well. each to his own, I just think that the risk has become too big. Shanghai will be "clean" during the coming year of the EXPO, with a "zero tolerance" policy.

Look what is happening on the streets, drunk driving etc. They are NOT joking here, and no more "laowai" bonus. Shanghai will be a sad place for the time to come, at least in regard of BBS, saunas etc.

Well, again, this is my very own oppinion. Others might disagree. Still, I have been here long enough to realize that "the good ol' times" have gone, and I do doubt they ever will come again, after the EXPO. Maybe the saunas will reappear, but I doubt we shall see many BBS in the City area after the EXPO.

Levitian[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bier 8]I do the same as Levitian, no more saunas until after Expo, especially after I experienced a raid myself.

G18 same story, I dont belive that crap on good relationship...maybe it works for short time, but if the LE wants to close down, they close down.

BBS is still (although tricky) option, sicne you only spend there max 15 min...
And TRL is worry-free...[/QUOTE]I don't believe the connection crap either, but looks like G18 is well protected, by themselves. WG told me that there are surveillance all over the place, front door, across the street, garage etc. IMO, the most effective one is the elevator. I don't see any other entrances, and you should see how it operates. The guy at the frontdoor will call down the elevator when the guest comes in, and there's only one key to the elevator. There might be stairs somewhere (not I have seen), but at least it will cost the LE a few more minutes, which should give you enough time to clean up.

[QUOTE=Levitian] I have been here long enough to realize that "the good ol' times" have gone, and I do doubt they ever will come again, after the EXPO. Maybe the saunas will reappear, but I doubt we shall see many BBS in the City area after the EXPO.[/QUOTE]Right, it's going to go the way of Taipei. Some 10 years ago or so the mayor there busted everything, almost called himself Rudy, painted the cabs yellow etc.

When the Filipinas began to arrive in Shanghai, sometime in 2003/4, I knew it was just a matter of time.

Alas!

Which locations. Would be helpful.- or do we just walk around and around?

[QUOTE=Mike921]Was at one Pudong spa Tues, they had to make a call for a girl to come in for FS, went to another in the same area on Friday. No special call necessary, girl was there no problem. Business does seem down though, hardly any customers in either place.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jman90024]Just passed by Excalibur on Nanyang Lu near Tongren Lu. There are some pretty sexy looking ladies at the door and from the look of it, they work there. I wonder if anyone has experience with girls from that place? How are they? What's the cost? Thanks,[/QUOTE]My friend. Pass away. I suggest Judy's too, Manhattan in Tongren Lu. Do not waste time in Excalibur just girl for drinkin.

Open this morning.

Many new faces.

I didn't see anything that raised my fear factor.

[QUOTE=Wysoh]I don't believe the connection crap either, but looks like G18 is well protected, by themselves. WG told me that there are surveillance all over the place, front door, across the street, garage etc. IMO, the most effective one is the elevator. I don't see any other entrances, and you should see how it operates. The guy at the frontdoor will call down the elevator when the guest comes in, and there's only one key to the elevator. There might be stairs somewhere (not I have seen), but at least it will cost the LE a few more minutes, which should give you enough time to clean up.[/QUOTE]You know what, they are closed again. Sigh.

Hey All,

Just had this one from a BBS near Zhongshan. 26, tightest pussy I ever mounted, lots of fun for 300 RMB.

Anyone up for a strip KTV this weekend?

[QUOTE=AsianLover]With the crackdown on saunas and the police arresting customers, I think it is just too dangerous to visit any sauna right now. I was just in Shanghai and there are many safe opporunities on TRL. Go to Malones, Judys, Manhattan, Blue Frog at night. These places are crawling with working girls. Talk to them negotiate a fair price and you can have safe fun. I have not heard about any issues with this type of P4P. Your only risk is at Manhattans because there are quite a few ladyboys who are also looking for a date.


AL[/QUOTE]
Not only Manhattan. I was in Judy's about two weeks ago, and half the women weren't women. It's pretty obvious though, shouldn't be too hard to navigate.

Was there around 00:30 yesterday... and closed 02:00.

They place is still runing and it seemed very safe.

Is there anyone here that has actually been caught? Or is it only "friends"?

Cause I was thinking, why would G18 still be open if they think the LE will come by anytime. The place seems very professional.

How many here still visit this place?

[QUOTE=Waldeck2]Open this morning.

Many new faces.

I didn't see anything that raised my fear factor.[/QUOTE]..when you see it, it is too late, these are not the local raids to show a little activity. These are plain cloths friends getting in as customers. This cannot be safeguarded against.

PLAY SAFE

FA

[QUOTE=Ocean25]Hey All,

Just had this one from a BBS near Zhongshan. 26, tightest pussy I ever mounted, lots of fun for 300 RMB.

Anyone up for a strip KTV this weekend?[/QUOTE]Which this? Picture?

Surprise there are still open BBS, most I know are closed or operate very secluded.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso]..when you see it, it is too late, these are not the local raids to show a little activity. These are plain cloths friends getting in as customers. This cannot be safeguarded against.

PLAY SAFE

FA[/QUOTE]

Ditto FA.

Was at Peacock two months ago and two cops blitzed in as I was paying the bill. They said nothing as the passed the counter and headed straight towards the massage rooms downstairs. Spoke with the manager and she said these were nothing to worry about. They are just the local cops just doing their mail call to show activity. She said if they really wanted to close the place down you wouldn't know about it, because it would be done by a bunch of plain clothes undercover.

MK

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso]Which this? Picture?

Surprise there are still open BBS, most I know are closed or operate very secluded.[/QUOTE]

Many are still opened, you just don't know about it. Standard drill is they take one customer at a time. When a customer goes in, they close the shades, lock the doors, turn off the lights so the establishment appears dead. When the customer leaves, lights go back on and the ladies are sitting in the open again.

Also now some have secret rooms that are blocked behind a fridge or are in some other way hidden. Usually there is a false room which contains a massage area to distract from the fact that there might be a hidden room in the back.

MK

[QUOTE=Firebird]One more question, what are the current going "rates" for LT and TLN??
I don't want to get the WG used to inflated rates
Many Thanks[/QUOTE]


Firebird,

Rates vary accordingly but expect minimun of $600rmb short term. I love Sarcrosa cause its only 550 before 7pm for 90+ mins of fun and MSOGs!

I dated a very pretty girl from there sister store in HongKou and been seeing her on the side. She is a nice wild one.

PC out

[QUOTE=John Clit]Where can I find bigger condoms in Shanghai?

I ran out of the ones I brought from Canada[/QUOTE]

Check the size, often written microscopically on the reverse side of the packet.

Look for 56mm.

Available in most pharmacies.

Enjoy

P13

[QUOTE=Firebird]One more question, what are the current going "rates" for LT and TLN??
I don't want to get the WG used to inflated rates
Many Thanks[/QUOTE]

Firebird,

You should be able to get any philippine girl for 700RMB LT. I usually offer 500 which is normally enough and I will go as high as 700.

I've have Vietnam girl in Shanghai for 500, but one would not go for less than 1000LT. Leave her be. Chinese girls can go for 300 to more than 1000 which I would not pay.

There are lots of girls, business is slow. PI girls are flooding to Shanghai because they can get 30 day visas and can extend them. They only get 14 days now in Hong Kong.

Don't pay more than market price. If they ask for too much, find someone else.

It is still US$100, same price in Singapore (150S$/night LT) and in Hong Kong i get for 500-600HKD, if I pay anything at all. In Hong Kong, I prefer Indonesians.

They can ask the moon, some may ask more than 2000 for LT, some may pay but as a smart monger if you know the fair price, you will get better service and keep the prices down for the rest of us.

Yellow Fever

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso]Which this? Picture?

Surprise there are still open BBS, most I know are closed or operate very secluded.[/QUOTE]Sorry about the picture. I guess it didn't upload correctly. I'm still finding BBS all over the place, but admittedly in smaller quantity. Interestingly I went to Hangzhong lu the other day and there wasn't nothing around. However, I talked up a guy on the street and found out the girls are now secluded in the apartments. Went up to the apartment and had an awesome 19 year old, petite chick for 200 RMB. Awesome bang. There were six or seven other girls there.

Does anyone know a chinese website through which Apartment Girls can be contacted? QQ is one method but it works only if you know how to read and write Chinese.

[QUOTE=Villogvakker]Was there around 00:30 yesterday... and closed 02:00.

They place is still runing and it seemed very safe.

Is there anyone here that has actually been caught? Or is it only "friends"?

Cause I was thinking, why would G18 still be open if they think the LE will come by anytime. The place seems very professional.

How many here still visit this place?[/QUOTE]The point is not who got caught, the point is the risk is very high now. SH has literally hundreds of these places, maybe more, nobody is really interested in closing them, if possible at all. But currently you have at national and local level interest to slow things down.

BOHICA ("bend over here is comes again"), just sit it out. And yes people got caught and deported, I guess they care not much where. We just warn, everybody can judge himself what risk he takes.

FA

Hi Ocean25,

Where is this hangzhong lu at? I go to sacrosa thats the only one I know, cause this is the first time I've been in China. Is there any other bbs in pudong area? I don't have much money, came here to study.

Thanks alot

[QUOTE=John Citizen]Hi Ocean25,

Where is this hangzhong lu at? I go to sacrosa thats the only one I know, cause this is the first time I've been in China. Is there any other bbs in pudong area? I don't have much money, came here to study.

Thanks alot[/QUOTE]

Hangzhong Road is quite far outside, behind Hongqiao Airport. Take Wuzhong Road, pass the Outer Ring, go for another 3 kilometers on Wuzhong Road, and you will eventually find it.

It was known as "the Village" or similar before, but this has been a couple of years ago. Back then, it was more or less an inofficial Red Light District, but this is gone and done.

I, however, do believe, there is still quite a scene "behind the curtain", as Ocean25 described. However, pretty much "ma fan" to get there.

Levitian

Hi Pushkin13!

Thank you very much for the info about condoms.

Thanks Levitian,

That's pretty far out, I was hoping it would be closer. I might just learn my chinese and ask the taxi or something.

What about the lancun road, I read about it before that there are some bbs around there. Can someone confirm that is still kicking?

I read all the shanghai forum and know a bit about it, but since the things going around, I want to be safe, and not get in trouble. Guess I came to Shanghai at a bad time.

Peacock in Tietu Lu was closed today. I assume they will stay so until October. Went to Golden Garden (?) In Nandan Lu instead. Business as usual there.

I checked out a few of the bars along Changyi Road ( 昌邑路 ) recently. Nothing special to write home about, although the one marked "Sports Bar" is probably the best. Ask for "happy hour" deals before going in. Along that same strip is a massage place, with writing in English, Chinese, and Japanese. (The Japanese is always a key to knowing whether it is a fun place or not...)

It is called Qing Feng SPA ( 清风 SPA 会所 ), No. 543 Changyi Road near Pudong Road ( 昌邑路543号，近浦东大道东方路 ), 021-5840-3221. I signed up for the Eurpoean SPA, which is about 200 RMB for 90 minutes. You are lead upstairs to a private room. Take a shower, take off your clothes, and lie down on the bed. An oil massage follows, with plenty of touching all over your body. Then, after turning over and more massage, you're asked if you want the happy ending. As is typical, the girls insist on 200 RMB. I'm fine with that, so away we go. She was open to touching, no complaints.

Decent place, nice masseuse. She gave a pretty good normal massage followed by the happy ending. Overall good for relaxing. I don't think there is full service available here, which is fine with me since that's not what I was looking for.

Enjoy!

Rtff of course, but what kind of girls are hanging out at judys and manhattan these days? Any non Asian girls? What about park97? I met a gorgeous Ukrainian in there once.

Best place to find non Asians right now?

Thanks for any help.

I was wandering if anyone would be kind enough to give me directions to 999, golden 18 club and heting. I will most likely be taking the metro line. And also, if possible could you give me the address incase I am taking the taxi.

Thanks

[QUOTE=John Citizen]Thanks Levitian,

That's pretty far out, I was hoping it would be closer. I might just learn my chinese and ask the taxi or something.

What about the lancun road, I read about it before that there are some bbs around there. Can someone confirm that is still kicking?

I read all the shanghai forum and know a bit about it, but since the things going around, I want to be safe, and not get in trouble. Guess I came to Shanghai at a bad time.[/QUOTE]

I have no idea about Lancun Road, sorry. I don't know where this is.

Yes, this is not the best time to come here, also because of the impending National Day Festivies. This normally is a period of clean-ups, and this year, it is the 60th anniversary, so even more reason to be cautious.

My POV

Levitian

First time there, so here it is. Went at ~1200 today, several customers there, business looked good. Exited the waiting room and chose a lady from the line up (10 girls). Picked a little older model as i feel they usually give better service. She escorted me to the room and asked what i wanted to drink, then left. Then, like MAGIC - a different girl returns with my drink. She was substantially younger and very pretty (except for the large tat on her arm) so I didn't make a fuss.

By the numbers:

Name: #509
Hometown: Chongqing
Age: ~22
Body: 8/10
Tits: 9/10 (38DD, but sensitive and didn't like them licked/sucked)
Kissing: NO
Massage: NO
AR: NO
BBBJ: 7/10 (almost made me blow)
FJ: 3/10 (not much better than jacking off)
GFE: 0/0 (hey, it happens)
Pussy: tight
Damage: 550
RTF: NO
Summary: young, hot, and lazy - like the kawaii girls in Japan (nice to look at, but poor value for money)

After 10 mins of DATY (not even a fake reaction from her) and 30 mins of mish, I blew, then she cleaned us up and promptly went to sleep for the remaining hour. Wouldn't be too bad, sleeping next to a beautiful young angel, but she snored pretty loudly so I couldn't sleep. She actually asked me to sing (in English) to her as she fell asleep - i thought that was a bit much.

Check my earlier posts for metro. Addresses for all 3 are in the forum. RTFF. Repeat. RTFF. Use the search function.- it works.

[QUOTE=Mrawesome]I was wandering if anyone would be kind enough to give me directions to 999, golden 18 club and heting. I will most likely be taking the metro line. And also, if possible could you give me the address incase I am taking the taxi.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ocean25]Sorry about the picture. I guess it didn't upload correctly. I'm still finding BBS all over the place, but admittedly in smaller quantity. Interestingly I went to Hangzhong lu the other day and there wasn't nothing around. However, I talked up a guy on the street and found out the girls are now secluded in the apartments. Went up to the apartment and had an awesome 19 year old, petite chick for 200 RMB. Awesome bang. There were six or seven other girls there.[/QUOTE]She looks awesome, and quite cheap.

How about the service?

[QUOTE=Mrawesome]I was wandering if anyone would be kind enough to give me directions to 999, golden 18 club and heting. I will most likely be taking the metro line. And also, if possible could you give me the address incase I am taking the taxi.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Mrawesome, why don't you spend a little time and RTFF? You could easily search for Golden 18 Club and find my report, or find others' reports for 999 and Heting. Since I am a generous guy, below is a link to my comprehensive directions on finding Golden 18. Now spend some time reading the forum!

[post]914838[/post]

Hi,

I am a long time lurker of this forum and now decided to post. First of all, thanks for all the great info you people have amassed over the years. Very valuable resource.

I'll be in Shanghai for th first time in a couple of weeks and am looking for some safe action. How reliable are the ladies that advertise on craigslist? Has anyone experience with that? How about the price range?

Went to New Lucky Garden 258 Tongren road. Convenient to subway and pretty clean. Just happen to walk by and wanted to give it a try. First time there and not sure what to expect with the recent crackdowns.

Did the shower and got escorted to a room and no selection. Just met a girl (lily) She's got a bit of meat on her and relatively new. But I liked her look and she seemed friendly enough. Had a great massage and then jumped into some nice action. Had a good time, but she mentioned that she was leaving the business soon.

Given the lack of selection and the higher fee (It was 900 RMB), I think I probably will not be back.

Probably not worth it if you RTFF

Bonzo1 said it nicely here

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=899413&postcount=829[/url]



[QUOTE=Xiaolong Sha]Hi,

I am a long time lurker of this forum and now decided to post. First of all, thanks for all the great info you people have amassed over the years. Very valuable resource.

I'll be in Shanghai for th first time in a couple of weeks and am looking for some safe action. How reliable are the ladies that advertise on craigslist? Has anyone experience with that? How about the price range?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gao Xing]I checked out a few of the bars along Changyi Road ( xxx ) recently. Nothing special to write home about, although the one marked "Sports Bar" is probably the best. Ask for "happy hour" deals before going in. Along that same strip is a massage place, with writing in English, Chinese, and Japanese
Enjoy![/QUOTE]Nice to read a report on one of my favourite spots, the joint owners are good friends, one of them gives a truly memorable ear massage, with a twist of hair.. I'm somewhat disturbed by the clear instructions in Chinese, I'm sure it wasn't your intention to give such clear markers to LE, but considering the present situation, perhaps it's a little unwise!

Ice

[QUOTE=Xiaolong Sha]Hi,

I am a long time lurker of this forum and now decided to post. First of all, thanks for all the great info you people have amassed over the years. Very valuable resource.

I'll be in Shanghai for th first time in a couple of weeks and am looking for some safe action. How reliable are the ladies that advertise on craigslist? Has anyone experience with that? How about the price range?[/QUOTE]

Look a couple of weeks or months back, long time lurker, you then will find a substantial contribution regarding Craiglist girls here, or, to say it shorter: RTFF.

Levitian

[QUOTE=Xiaolong Sha]Hi,

I am a long time lurker of this forum and now decided to post. First of all, thanks for all the great info you people have amassed over the years. Very valuable resource.

I'll be in Shanghai for th first time in a couple of weeks and am looking for some safe action. How reliable are the ladies that advertise on craigslist? Has anyone experience with that? How about the price range?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't trust so much Craigslist, most of it is fake, they sometimes only try to get pictures to re-sell them. A few professional prostitutes, real ones, but overprice.

My advice is to stay away. Very few are real and never give any picture.

[QUOTE=Ice Dragon]I'm somewhat disturbed by the clear instructions in Chinese, I'm sure it wasn't your intention to give such clear markers to LE, but considering the present situation, perhaps it's a little unwise! [/QUOTE]ID, while I appreciate your concerns regarding the "present situation", let me reassure you that LE has a clear idea of what is going on, so anything written here is not going to be surprising to anyone. I know some may find it shocking.- SHOCKING.- that a massage parlor located in the middle of a strip of girlie bars might provide extra services. Second, certainly any LE that do monitor the site are able to read English, so adding Chinese characters to help in orientation is truly not an issue, in my opinion. In conclusion, given that the purpose of this site is to share accurate information, than I disagree that it is unwise to use Chinese to help the accuracy of the report.

Dear All,

I wonder if you have any recommendations on some BBS or saunas that feature girls with very large racks... not the usually push-up bra C cups that you see in many place these days but the ones with really heavy breast (sometimes from over-sized girls).

Do you have any tips of places where I can find them?

I will be happy to share contacts, just PM me.

Take care, and keep riding!

BBLover

Thanks to the recent reports on the LE crackdown and the recommendation of some of the Shanghai experts I did not partake of the Sauna scene this trip.

I did read in the Forum that there were some clubs located near the Portman Ritz-Carlton Hotel that had some freelancers. Well the information was correct and I had a fantastic week.

If you do not know the area ask the Taxi to take you to the Ritz-Carlton. As you walk out the "front" make a right turn. If walking late in the evening you will be occassionally stopped by a local WG asking if you want "massageee" - I did not partake of any. When you come to the end of the block - you have reached Tongren Road - you can make a right turn or make a left and cross the street.
Taking the right turn will lead you to Malone's American Cafe - I was there two nights and the selection of local and Pinoy WG was quite poor.

If you make left turn on Tongren and cross the street.... keep walking straight for some time.
After about couple of minutes of walking you will come to where you want to be - clubs "galore".

Many clubs have cute girls standing in front trying to grab you and try to get you to enter. These clubs are similar to the Wanchai clubs of Hong Kong - you pay high price for "girlie" drinks - I did not enter any of these. I did enter Judy's and Manhattan.
Of the two - Manhattan definitely was my selection of the week. I found a great Viet girl and had her every night for the entire week. Eager to please.

Manhattan has a great selection of Chinese, Pinoy, and Viet talent of all sizes and shapes along with a very good band. Too bad I did not know about this place for my prior trips to Shanghai. I definitely will return on my future trips.
Enjoy and stay safe

[QUOTE=Bblover]Dear All,

I wonder if you have any recommendations on some BBS or saunas that feature girls with very large racks... not the usually push-up bra C cups that you see in many place these days but the ones with really heavy breast (sometimes from over-sized girls).

Do you have any tips of places where I can find them?

I will be happy to share contacts, just PM me.

Take care, and keep riding!

BBLover[/QUOTE]


Probably nobody else noticed, but ... you are coming back with the very same request on a very regular basis. I actually did answer you once, maybe 1 - 2 years ago.

The former "providers" known to me are all gone. There once was a nice strip on around Xikang and Wuding Road, but they are all gone.

If you lucky you will find some on Wuzhong Road, further down the road in direction of the Outer Ring Road, but do not ask for further directions. It is only a guess. The challenge nowadays is to find BBS which are still providing full service, let alone by big-breasted girls.

Hey, and then, it would actually be nice if you occasionally also would publish your findings here, instead of only coming back with the same question every 3 months or so.

Levitian

For any of us to think that the local authorities do not know what is going on is to be either naive or willfully stupid. I've been in Shanghai a year and non Chinese people do not understand how much of this culture works.

[QUOTE=Ice Dragon]Nice to read a report on one of my favourite spots, the joint owners are good friends, one of them gives a truly memorable ear massage, with a twist of hair.. I'm somewhat disturbed by the clear instructions in Chinese, I'm sure it wasn't your intention to give such clear markers to LE, but considering the present situation, perhaps it's a little unwise!

Ice[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gao Xing]ID, while I appreciate your concerns regarding the "present situation", let me reassure you that LE has a clear idea of what is going on, so anything written here is not going to be surprising to anyone. I know some may find it shocking.- SHOCKING.- that a massage parlor located in the middle of a strip of girlie bars might provide extra services. Second, certainly any LE that do monitor the site are able to read English, so adding Chinese characters to help in orientation is truly not an issue, in my opinion. In conclusion, given that the purpose of this site is to share accurate information, than I disagree that it is unwise to use Chinese to help the accuracy of the report.[/QUOTE]
As often the truth stays in the middle.
On one end I agree with ID as there is sufficient cleaning action in Shangai that we should not wake up sleeping dogs
On hte other end, GX is perfectly right, LE does not use these forums to find out where the establishments are.
But they maybe want to address their action where most of hte foreigners go so "to give a lesson", to reduce the bad impression these locations give around the world (and foreigners heavily talking about them do represent a problem for the government)
Of course it is all a bit silly as these establishments are clearly known and visible for locals. But that does not represent a problem for the authorities.
The problem is the "outside world" that knows about and gives a bad impression on their own home ground.
Quite hard to judge what to do on such a forum, though!

[QUOTE=Bionicman].....But they maybe want to address their action where most of hte foreigners go so "to give a lesson", to reduce the bad impression these locations give around the world (and foreigners heavily talking about them do represent a problem for the government)
Of course it is all a bit silly as these establishments are clearly known and visible for locals. But that does not represent a problem for the authorities.
The problem is the "outside world" that knows about and gives a bad impression on their own home ground.[/QUOTE]
BINGO!! Of course "services" are available - right now, in the past and also in the future BUT - and this is the big BUT - the Chinese government does NOT want China to be known Internationally as a Sex destination as places like PI, LOS etc are. This is, after all, a matter of face and China's face to the rest of the world.

These places are NOT in the same league as China nowadays and IMHO, the Chinese government is Not going to allow their international image to be sullied any further by all these Laowais coming over and boasting about their "Chinese Conquests" etc on ISG as well as other media. Worse of course are these newbies and BSD's who come to China thinking that it is only another sex destination AND acting obnoxiously.
[QUOTE]Quite hard to judge what to do on such a forum, though![/QUOTE]

Enough is enough I think - and what I would like for guys here to hopefully subscribe to is the idea that we in the ISG community can and should do our part to preserve whatever there is left. Forget about being nice guys and helping out these idiots asking things like - where's the big tits, where are the easiest place to score freebies, give me the contact for that hottie, is CG a good source? Where can I get a reliable service etc etc. All idiotic requests and ones that us old timers have no need to ask for.

Let these new guys go and find it all out themselves and get burned if need be. Oh I know that this is probably NOT in the usual spirit of ISG - but like I said, we need to preserve whatever is left of the action for us foreigners that there is in China - without making any lee ways for newbies to spoil it any more for us who needs to stay and monger locally.

Apologies if I offend anybody - but please note that this is purely IMHO and one that has been formed from having witnessed some of the excesses of these BSD's who once a while wash up on "our shores" so to call (yeah yeah, some one's gonna tell me that I really am full of it thinking and stating that these are OUR shores!! but.......).

Look-it, just about all of us have been warning that the "coast is not really clear" these days - and what kind of questions do we instead get?? Are you sure?? Did you actually experience it yourself or is it just hearsay? Come on, it cain't really be all that bad??!! What are the chances....?" IDIOTIC!! totally idiotic.

Peace

SEAJ

Glad you enjoyed tongren Lu, one of my favorite spots.

Did you see many non-Asians down there? I'll be over next week, but not too interested in Asians unless really hot!

[QUOTE=Firebird]Thanks to the recent reports on the LE crackdown and the recommendation of some of the Shanghai experts I did not partake of the Sauna scene this trip.

I did read in the Forum that there were some clubs located near the Portman Ritz-Carlton Hotel that had some freelancers. Well the information was correct and I had a fantastic week.

If you do not know the area ask the Taxi to take you to the Ritz-Carlton. As you walk out the "front" make a right turn. If walking late in the evening you will be occassionally stopped by a local WG asking if you want "massageee" - I did not partake of any. When you come to the end of the block - you have reached Tongren Road - you can make a right turn or make a left and cross the street.
Taking the right turn will lead you to Malone's American Cafe - I was there two nights and the selection of local and Pinoy WG was quite poor.

If you make left turn on Tongren and cross the street.... keep walking straight for some time.
After about couple of minutes of walking you will come to where you want to be - clubs "galore".

Many clubs have cute girls standing in front trying to grab you and try to get you to enter. These clubs are similar to the Wanchai clubs of Hong Kong - you pay high price for "girlie" drinks - I did not enter any of these. I did enter Judy's and Manhattan.
Of the two - Manhattan definitely was my selection of the week. I found a great Viet girl and had her every night for the entire week. Eager to please.

Manhattan has a great selection of Chinese, Pinoy, and Viet talent of all sizes and shapes along with a very good band. Too bad I did not know about this place for my prior trips to Shanghai. I definitely will return on my future trips.
Enjoy and stay safe[/QUOTE]

Stopped by Bao Sheng(?)/Marriott today, but was closed. Perhaps I was too early (1130). Walked to Merrylin 3F from there. Probably one of the first customers of the day, clean up crew was still working. Shower and quick wait in the resting room and on to the fishbowl (7 to choose from).

Name: #79
Hometown: Chongqing
Age: ~27
Body: 6/10
Tits: 5/10 36F(ake) claimed sensitive and didn't like them touched/licked/sucked
Kissing: 3/10
Massage: 4/10
AR: NO
BBBJ: 5/10
FJ: 4/10
GFE: 2/10
Pussy: Ok
ATWG (actual time with girl - phone call to phone call): 55 mins
Damage: 680
RTF: NO
Summary: capable, but must be motivated

Initially protested, you know the song and dance: 'you're so big (i'm not), cannot take, use hand?' blah, blah, blah, she finally moved on to bbbj and later relented to mish and doggie. Short rest (her) then massage and time to leave.

[QUOTE=Brain E]Glad you enjoyed tongren Lu, one of my favorite spots.

Did you see many non-Asians down there? I'll be over next week, but not too interested in Asians unless really hot![/QUOTE]


Strange request!!!! -if you not too interested in Asians go to Brasil, Mexico or somewhere in EE countries.

[QUOTE=Firebird]Strange request!!!! -if you not too interested in Asians go to Brasil, Mexico or somewhere in EE countries.[/QUOTE]I'll be there on business.

This Baoshan was reported by a local. It maybe the best in SH.

I went there and found a cutie from Chengdu. She is 24, supercute. Just so loosen the gate. There is a nice hotel only 20m from the pink row, you can ask to bring her to the hotel room. Clean and safe. 200rmb I paid.

Songnan and Changjiang cross section is the place, if I am not wrong. In the day, I went to eat at some restaurant nearby, people are friendly and told me to come back. This is the dream come true in SH maybe. If someone knows something better, please share. By the way, the selection of the row is bad like most of SH. Old, and dull looking. I was lucky to find that gem. Not sure I can have it another one there. One sure thing, no young one.

Plan well before you go. It is far away and the best bet is sleeping in that business hotel right at the corner. Cheap but clean room, 138 a night. I would head to Hangzhou from Pudong airport then, but it will be 250rmb more for bus fare and 8 hours rountrip. By the way from Pudong airport to make to Baoshan a place in SH city, it will take 4 hours roundtrip at least. With this, I chose Hangzhou then.

I agree with you, SEAJ. There's already a plethora of info on this board anyway - people who want info can RTFF and it's almost certainly already covered.

No offense either, but yeah, we're not doing ourselves any favors by promoting here; quite the contrary. Which is why you'll notice I haven't posted here in a while.

Enjoy, be safe, and don't be an ass as it's only likely to get yourself into a world of trouble. That's my tip for the foreseeable future here.

-B-


[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]BINGO!! Of course "services" are available - right now, in the past and also in the future BUT - and this is the big BUT - the Chinese government does NOT want China to be known Internationally as a Sex destination as places like PI, LOS etc are. This is, after all, a matter of face and China's face to the rest of the world.

These places are NOT in the same league as China nowadays and IMHO, the Chinese government is Not going to allow their international image to be sullied any further by all these Laowais coming over and boasting about their "Chinese Conquests" etc on ISG as well as other media. Worse of course are these newbies and BSD's who come to China thinking that it is only another sex destination AND acting obnoxiously.


Enough is enough I think - and what I would like for guys here to hopefully subscribe to is the idea that we in the ISG community can and should do our part to preserve whatever there is left. Forget about being nice guys and helping out these idiots asking things like - where's the big tits, where are the easiest place to score freebies, give me the contact for that hottie, is CG a good source? Where can I get a reliable service etc etc. All idiotic requests and ones that us old timers have no need to ask for.

Let these new guys go and find it all out themselves and get burned if need be. Oh I know that this is probably NOT in the usual spirit of ISG - but like I said, we need to preserve whatever is left of the action for us foreigners that there is in China - without making any lee ways for newbies to spoil it any more for us who needs to stay and monger locally.

Apologies if I offend anybody - but please note that this is purely IMHO and one that has been formed from having witnessed some of the excesses of these BSD's who once a while wash up on "our shores" so to call (yeah yeah, some one's gonna tell me that I really am full of it thinking and stating that these are OUR shores!! but.......).

Look-it, just about all of us have been warning that the "coast is not really clear" these days - and what kind of questions do we instead get?? Are you sure?? Did you actually experience it yourself or is it just hearsay? Come on, it cain't really be all that bad??!! What are the chances....?" IDIOTIC!! totally idiotic.

Peace

SEAJ[/QUOTE]

She indeed looks great!

Never tried these kind of websites in Shanghai actually, always hear/read about fake pictures, bad service etc.

Anyone good experience with Charlie's Angels? If pictures are real I would like to meet Suki soon.


[QUOTE=Comrade 2255]Has anybody tried Charlie's Angels lately? Despite the ridiculous ST cost, Suki looks too good to be true!

[url]http://www.bodymassage.com.cn/LadiesDisplay.aspx?id=suki[/url]

And a friendly reminder for those new to Shanghai....

[b]*** NEVER *** FOLLOW A TOUT, MALE OF FEMALE, WHO APPROACHES YOU AROUND NANJING LU!!![/b][/QUOTE]

Be careful about the crackdown recently.

I was told that this place was visited by plolice recently.

[QUOTE=Mike921]Stopped by Bao Sheng(?)/Marriott today, but was closed. Perhaps I was too early (1130). Walked to Merrylin 3F from there. Probably one of the first customers of the day, clean up crew was still working. Shower and quick wait in the resting room and on to the fishbowl (7 to choose from).

Name: #79
Hometown: Chongqing
Age: ~27
Body: 6/10
Tits: 5/10 36F(ake) claimed sensitive and didn't like them touched/licked/sucked
Kissing: 3/10
Massage: 4/10
AR: NO
BBBJ: 5/10
FJ: 4/10
GFE: 2/10
Pussy: Ok
ATWG (actual time with girl - phone call to phone call): 55 mins
Damage: 680
RTF: NO
Summary: capable, but must be motivated

Initially protested, you know the song and dance: 'you're so big (i'm not), cannot take, use hand?' blah, blah, blah, she finally moved on to bbbj and later relented to mish and doggie. Short rest (her) then massage and time to leave.[/QUOTE]

If it is too good to be true, it's probably a fake!

Suki's pictures probably copied from one of many sites.

[url]http://www.gogogoo.com/discuz/thread-147052-1-8.html[/url]
[url]http://www.rayli.com.cn/0017/2007-12-22/L0017005_281213_1.html[/url]
[url]http://www.rayli.com.cn/0017/2007-12-22/L0017005_281213_3.html[/url]
[url]http://anime.xunlei.com/Collection/origin/15727[/url]

I would not trust any pictures for Shanghai. Period.

YEP! NEVER FOLLOW A TOUT ANYWHERE IN SHANGHAI!


[QUOTE=Comrade 2255]Has anybody tried Charlie's Angels lately? Despite the ridiculous ST cost, Suki looks too good to be true!

[url]http://www.bodymassage.com.cn/LadiesDisplay.aspx?id=suki[/url]

And a friendly reminder for those new to Shanghai....

[b]*** NEVER *** FOLLOW A TOUT, MALE OF FEMALE, WHO APPROACHES YOU AROUND NANJING LU!!![/b][/QUOTE]

I sat next to a Chinese girl at the bar at Big Bamboo bar. She tried to communicate, but i did not let on that I understood, just to see where she was going. Besides, I was not intending to take her anyway.

She could not speak much English so she asked if I had a phone number. I gave her the number and she proceeded to text me. She had a small notebook with English phrases written in it. Phrases like Lets go to your hotel, Let's make love, My father is sick and needs the hospital. She was willing to go for 200 rmb and went down to 100 as she got more desperate and I just put her off. Funny!

[url]http://www.bodymassage.com.cn/Ladie...ay.aspx?id=suki[/url]

If you check a little further they have girls, not pictured, for 680 for 2 hours and 1680 overnight. Has anyone tried this?

[quote=waldeck2][url]http://www.bodymassage.com.cn/ladie...ay.aspx?id=suki[/url]

if you check a little further they have girls, not pictured, for 680 for 2 hours and 1680 overnight. has anyone tried this?[/quote]
roflmao!!!

so how come when you click on the web site and click on suki, the same gal as that posted up on the 3 web sites that poopbunny pointed us to appears???!!

same gal!! same pictures - and your web site says "real pictures" too!!

lol!!

ouch!!

peace!!

seaj!!

Go to Gallery and you will find this. Maybe too difficult for some to follow.

Gallery

Due to the mass demand for cheaper rates, Shanghai escorts now have massures that are not listed on this web which are rated at RMB 680 for 2 hours (Full service) from 6am-3pm, RMB 1680 for overnight from 10pm-8am. Also note that round trip taxi fare is not included in the above prices!

[QUOTE=Waldeck2][url]http://www.bodymassage.com.cn/Ladie...ay.aspx?id=suki[/url]

If you check a little further they have girls, not pictured, for 680 for 2 hours and 1680 overnight. Has anyone tried this?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Asdvlerner]Can confirm BaDong Sauna is still functioning as of last Friday!

BaDong Sauna was reported on several months ago - it's in the same building as the Marriott Courtyard in PuDong - around the corner from the front entrance - up the escalator to the 4th floor.

Do a search on BaDong - you'll find several good reports from before with exact address and instructions.

This place has the water-bed soapy style, as well as non... 90 min soapy was 800 (a bit expensive), non soapy she said was 650 (or something similar).

Mami's name is Xiao Xian - set me up with #7 YangYang. She's a petite little thing -- nice breasts. A bit "weathered" at 23, but a real trooper and damn hard worker.

Mami ssaid ot too many lao wei customers - many Japanese, Koreans, Taiwanese, and of course Chinese.

I was in about 5pm Friday afternoon - only one other customer that I saw...

Cheers & be safe!

Asdv

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Could we get some more information about this place? Is it a fishbowl style place? Or you look at some pictures?

What do you get for your CYN800??

TIA

I'm going to be in shanghai the weekend of 9-26
If any wants to go to zapatta,s ot TRL pm me.

Fitz

News reached Beijing yesterday by word-of-mouth that "whole Tongren Lu is closed and will be closed for the duration." Confirm or deny?

[QUOTE=Zhuren]News reached Beijing yesterday by word-of-mouth that "whole Tongren Lu is closed and will be closed for the duration." Confirm or deny?[/QUOTE]Deny. I just came back from there. Things are alive and well, and I don't see any signs of closing.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Gaolei] Phrases like My father is sick and needs the hospital. She was willing to go for 200 rmb and went down to 100 as she got more desperate and I just put her off. Funny![/QUOTE]Not funny, most of the tilmes it's true.

Ok just came back from SH. I couldn't figure out how to use a proxy so no accces during two months.

Usual bar girls for foreigners and rich Chinese guys hang out in the bars like Malone's, Xintiandi or others. It's the same girls evryday so after one week of partying I was starting to know the faces. They typically asked for 1200, which is not in my budget, could be negociated but I didn't want to be seen talking with pay girls because I know a lot of people in these bars.

Dated and pulled out a couple of freebies in Windows Zapatas etc.

Went to Tongren lu. Paid about 400 just to dance with a hot girl half naked an put my hand in her underwear. Sounds like a scam but actually that was pretty nice. Exited the bar, and sat down on the sidewalk. Started to talk with the bar girl at the entrance. Ended up getting her phone numbr and came back two days later. Went to have dinner with all the bar girls and paid 40 yuan (street food) and went to her place but didn't have sex. She is not technically a bar girl, she was 22 and we just kissed and hugged, which sounds boring but to me it's nice.

Ended up having sex with 2 girls but I had their phone number and saw them several times. Didn't pay anything at all. One wanted me to meet her family in order to pretend she had a foreign boyfriend. The other was really good looking but boring as hell and had no personality.

Went to 2 KTV's, but regular ones. First one was your typical scam where I paid a fortune just to dance with girls. What the hell I knew it but wanted to try. The second one too but I went with a girl I met in a bar who works there after she got a couple of Chinese business man drunk. The guys were sleeping so I started to drink and eat with the girls, and the Chinese guys didn't even notice. One of the guys wanted to pay her for sex so she called me and asked e to come and pretend I'm her boyfriend, which turned out to be true in a way. When we left the Chinese guy left an insane tip to my girl and she invited me to a restaurant and hotel with the money. Was really fun and compensated for what I paid the first time.

Didn't try the saunas:

-scared of the police
-not much money
-had sex without paying so...

Does anyone know of a good job I could do there?

I'm a trilingual business graduate with three years of experience.

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Hi brothers,

last week I was a bit bored and went out on Saturday night to pick a girl from TRL.
Saturday is for sure not my favorite day - too busy, too much competition and too high expectation from the girls.

Anyway, when I already decided to leave alone at around midnight, I passed by a girl to my liking. PI with brown skin and good shape. Her name was Vivi or something similar as far as I remember. I told her 700 for LT and I pay 800 when I am happy on hear departure.
I made clear I want an overnight and come up to 4 times. She agreed and off we left.
In hotel, everything was OK (just too pro, no kissing etc) and after 2 pops (2 hours) she said she is hungry and tired and must leave NOW.
I was pissed - as this was not what we agreed on. Anyway that she somehow earned the 700RMB I was not willing to pay this as it was not what we agreed on. So I gave her 500RMB and finally put another 50RMB on top to have her leave. We both felt cheated.
It is a pity, as the girl was a good f*cker and we could have agreed on another basis and both be happy, but I really do not want to be scammed.

So please brothers, be strict but fair when the girls brake the rules. If they have less chance, it will also happen less often.

Another way to avoid this is probably to pick girls past 1-2 am, so they do not try to go back hoping to find another customer.

Ding²

I used to visit Zhongtian sauna on a regular basis because I got to know a girl there who always gave me great service. She ended up leaving and going to another place about 15 minutes walk to the west. She tells me that a few of her friends followed her to this place because Zhongtian got shut down. So I went to visit the new place. I didn't go through the normal routine because she knew I was coming and just met me when I came in and we went straight to the room.

It seems to be a normal massage place in one section but then we walk halfway down the hall and my girl knocks on the wall and a secret door opens up and I see some person sitting in a chair looking at cameras and stuff. I never would have guessed that the wall would open up like this.

After we got done with our session, she led me out a different way from when I came in, I paid my fee and came out in the middle of a restaurant. Again the exit was built into the wall by the kitchen of the restaurant. I had to go through the restaurant to get out to the street.

I thought it was quite strange to have this exit if you really want to keep a low profile. My Chinese is not good enough to figure out what is the normal procedure for someone to come in and get to the secret part of the establishment. I assume this is a word of mouth type of thing.

Wander by the JinDing Sauna the other day. The usual: shower and taken to the guest room. The mami came in who used to work there and we had some good time together. Anyway, chat a bit about recent crack down and she told me that the worst is over and the things are back to normal.

Onto the fish bowl, Jinding is under renovation and the place is a bit messy. They were still doing some works to the fish bowl so about 20 girls lined up at the narrow hallway. Exciting experiences passing by them so closely knowing each one is available to be had at the pointing of a finger.

Anyway, with the selection, end up picking the same girl whom were recommended to me last time by the mami. Nice to have the mami knowing exactly what my type is as she was my type. ;)

We went into the room, she jumped me and we started to kiss. Totally GEF. As I remembered her last time, awesome service and one of the best deep throat I have had in China. As we are feeling out each other, she asked me if I want to try threesome. Typically, I get annoyed by girls pushing threesome but I got curious with this one. I asked her if she liked girls and what she wanted to do with her. She said sure so I told her to pick someone she likes. In two minutes, she returned and followed by another girl. She started to strip her and her hands were all over her body. I was laying down and watch two of them play with each other. Grab each by the head and had them sucking on my nipples. As they were licking me, their hands are on each other over the tits and pussies. Sit up and the girl and I started to work on the second girl suck her nipple together. Pretty awesome to have tongues tangle over another girl's nipple. They are both pretty into it. Stack them on top of each other, and spread them to give me full access to both pussies. Going down on both of them at the same time while they are playing with each other's breasts. Trying to get one of them to go down on the other with me but she hesitated a bit. I didn't want to push and break the happy flow so far.

Make the long story short. Playing with both of them in various ways until one of them put a condom on me and I started to work on the first girl missionary. Having the other sitting on her facing me so I could suck on her nipple while the girl at the bottom playing with her pussy and ass. Change condom and starting to do the one on top. Change a couple positions that I came inside the first girl. We were all sweaty and laying on the bed holding one in each arm. After like 5 minutes, they started to lick and suck me. Going for the second round. Took a while longer for the second time and one of them started to dance and tease when I was pumping the other.

After I am done, we lay down again and chatted a bit. One of them told me to invite a friend next time so we can have orgy. Hmm... My mind wandered.

Overall, one of the best experience mongering in China and the cost was 1,100 (650 for first and 450 for second)

Sorry, don't remember her number. Making a hobbit out of mami's recommendation there. I am sure if you told the mami about threesome, she will get you the right one.

Any idea if Heting is still open?

[QUOTE=Jman90024]Wander by the JinDing Sauna the other day. The usual: shower and taken to the guest room. The mami came in who used to work there and we had some good time together. Anyway, chat a bit about recent crack down and she told me that the worst is over and the things are back to normal.[/QUOTE]Jman,

Can you pls share the address of Jin Ding sauna.

Thanks

It was earlier this week.

[QUOTE=Kindway88]Any idea if Heting is still open?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Garam Dharam]Jman,

Can you pls share the address of Jin Ding sauna.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

It's at the cross of Wuning Nan Lu and Wuding Xi Lu at the 3rd floor of Motel 168.

I did not see this when searching the forum so not sure if that is old info but the sauna at the Holiday Inn Vista no longer provides special massage. Apparently there has been some change, there is a large sign in and outside the elevator that says the sauna is not affiliated with Holiday Inn and when I got there at 2AM they were closed.

That being said this is China so everthing is possible. As mentioned I show up at the sauna and they are closed. A guy who looks like a hotel employee is there, I explain what I am looking for and he says no sorry no special massage and we are closed. Another guy who does not speak english, I think, is standing next to him.

I go back to my room some 12 floors up and get ready for bed. 30 minutes later, that is like in the middle of the night, loud bangs on the door and a male voice shouting "special massage, special massage". That freaked me out because I did not give the guy my room number and this is a big hotel full of foreigners, so how did they get it? I ignored the banging, which got louder then stopped... I am quite sure half the floor must have known there was a pervert in room 1501.

15 minutes later, soft banging on the door and a female voice. I am thinking if I don't open the door they are going to be after me all night so I do. Tall girl but face full of pimples and I still did not know how she got my room number so I sent her away.

That was it for the night.

[QUOTE=Mahal]I did not see this when searching the forum so not sure if that is old info but the sauna at the Holiday Inn Vista no longer provides special massage. Apparently there has been some change, there is a large sign in and outside the elevator that says the sauna is not affiliated with Holiday Inn and when I got there at 2AM they were closed.

That being said this is China so everthing is possible. As mentioned I show up at the sauna and they are closed. A guy who looks like a hotel employee is there, I explain what I am looking for and he says no sorry no special massage and we are closed. Another guy who does not speak english, I think, is standing next to him.

I go back to my room some 12 floors up and get ready for bed. 30 minutes later, that is like in the middle of the night, loud bangs on the door and a male voice shouting "special massage, special massage". That freaked me out because I did not give the guy my room number and this is a big hotel full of foreigners, so how did they get it? I ignored the banging, which got louder then stopped... I am quite sure half the floor must have known there was a pervert in room 1501.

15 minutes later, soft banging on the door and a female voice. I am thinking if I don't open the door they are going to be after me all night so I do. Tall girl but face full of pimples and I still did not know how she got my room number so I sent her away.

That was it for the night.[/QUOTE]

CCTV tracked you.

I have learned from quite sure source (from within) that during the October break there will be almost no raid, a break. So it will be a quite safe time to go to your favourite Sauna.

However beware after October 15th

SC

This is the kind of information this forum was designed to perform.

Thank you

[QUOTE=Jman90024]It's at the cross of Wuning Nan Lu and Wuding Xi Lu at the 3rd floor of Motel 168.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]I have learned from quite sure source (from within) that during the October break there will be almost no raid, a break. So it will be a quite safe time to go to your favourite Sauna.

However beware after October 15th

SC[/QUOTE]Can you elaborate on what to expect "after October 15"? Looks like I will be arriving in Shanghai about the 20th. I was hoping that the situation would ease up after the holiday.

Thanks.

Be safe.

[QUOTE=Jman90024]
Change condom and starting to do the one on top. pumping the other. [/QUOTE]

Call me selfish but the worst part of threesomes for me is changing the condom. That said, I rarely find a duo that accept it any other way. I understand the rationale that without the change you might transfer something from the first to the second girl and vice versa.

A couple of months ago I took a duo in CP and agreed a the mamasan that I did not have to change only to find out in the room that it was not the case. I was going to complain to the mommy but just let it go.

If anybody knows a place that can let you get away without changing, I would be grateful for the referral.

OAH

The three month crackdown on prostitution seems to be winding down. The operation began on June 30th, ends right before National Day. For more info and news on the crackdown google "prostitution crackdown shanghai".

One big raid that happened a few months back that wasn't reported here was Ju Yuan. Customers and girls were all taken away by the LE.

999 and her sister stores seemed to have been untouched throughout the recent crackdown. Their boss seems to have a lot of clout and the management seems quite vigilant. A new measure of security with them is that all cell phones must be left in the lockers. Management and the girls are quite confident that theirs' is a safe place.

China's equivalent ISG BBS was taken down two months ago and it seems to be permanent. A shame since it was rich with local monger information and insight.

All the small and local saunas seem to be back to their regular routine except for the ones that have been shut down permanently. Those shut down permanently are those obvious city center ones like Thompsons and the Shanghai Hotel sister branch in XJH.

The message seems to be, business is allowed to be back to usual, as long as it's not too obviously out in the open.

Anyone who has more tidbits of information, please share so we can paint a better picture of what the scene is like!

MK

I hope I'm posting this in the correct place and I'm not disrupting the monger flow. I'm new in shanghai and new to. I guess mongering is the term. I want to dabble. I'd like to meet somebody that can show the ropes so-to-speak. I'm in xuhui, and I'd rather not bring anyone to my apartment. I'd like some1 to show me where to go, how much different things cost, etc etc. Preferably no1 pushy, I don't want to be pressured into anything.

I'm not into anything bi so plz don't contact me for anything of that nature.

Thx in advance for any tips/advice/ushering.

The local church of your choice. Try the confessional; priest, rabbi or congregational leader. You are welcome. In advance.

[QUOTE=Bottleit]I hope I'm posting this in the correct place and I'm not disrupting the monger flow. I'm new in shanghai and new to. I guess mongering is the term. I want to dabble. I'd like to meet somebody that can show the ropes so-to-speak. I'm in xuhui, and I'd rather not bring anyone to my apartment. I'd like some1 to show me where to go, how much different things cost, etc etc. Preferably no1 pushy, I don't want to be pressured into anything.

I'm not into anything bi so plz don't contact me for anything of that nature.

Thx in advance for any tips/advice/ushering.[/QUOTE]

I'm gonna recommend highly AGAINST going to this place. I was in there the other night and witnessed:

- three customers (of the four I saw during the night) arguing heavily about the bill (including me)

- one customer run out without paying saying "this is too ridiculous to even argue"

- one customer being physically harassed (shoved and punched) by a girl and the bartender, while he just stood there and asked them to chill out

- my own bill was stupidly expensive, and the girls were playing all kinds of scams ("take me to the VIP room and I'll blow you", which translates to buy countless drinks and get nothing for it while the girl conveniently steps out from time to time to drink with another customer)


The TRL bars will probably all be closed pretty soon, but meanwhile I highly recommend avoiding LA. From what I saw that place is nothing but trouble.

Happy trails.

-B-

[QUOTE=Monkey King]The three month crackdown on prostitution seems to be winding down. The operation began on June 30th, ends right before National Day. For more info and news on the crackdown google "prostitution crackdown shanghai".

One big raid that happened a few months back that wasn't reported here was Ju Yuan. Customers and girls were all taken away by the LE.

999 and her sister stores seemed to have been untouched throughout the recent crackdown. Their boss seems to have a lot of clout and the management seems quite vigilant. A new measure of security with them is that all cell phones must be left in the lockers. Management and the girls are quite confident that theirs' is a safe place.

China's equivalent ISG BBS was taken down two months ago and it seems to be permanent. A shame since it was rich with local monger information and insight.

All the small and local saunas seem to be back to their regular routine except for the ones that have been shut down permanently. Those shut down permanently are those obvious city center ones like Thompsons and the Shanghai Hotel sister branch in XJH.

The message seems to be, business is allowed to be back to usual, as long as it's not too obviously out in the open.

Anyone who has more tidbits of information, please share so we can paint a better picture of what the scene is like!

MK[/QUOTE]What was the address for China's equivalent ISG BBS?

What was it called?

[QUOTE=Chaz Can Do]What was the address for China's equivalent ISG BBS?

What was it called?[/QUOTE]

Doesn't matter, it's down now. Find it yourself on with Baidu.

MK

[QUOTE=Bonzo1]I'm gonna recommend highly AGAINST going to this place. I was in there the other night and witnessed:

- three customers (of the four I saw during the night) arguing heavily about the bill (including me)

- one customer run out without paying saying "this is too ridiculous to even argue"

- one customer being physically harassed (shoved and punched) by a girl and the bartender, while he just stood there and asked them to chill out

- my own bill was stupidly expensive, and the girls were playing all kinds of scams ("take me to the VIP room and I'll blow you", which translates to buy countless drinks and get nothing for it while the girl conveniently steps out from time to time to drink with another customer)

The TRL bars will probably all be closed pretty soon, but meanwhile I highly recommend avoiding LA. From what I saw that place is nothing but trouble.

Happy trails.

-B-[/QUOTE]It is your first time on TRL? Many of these places likes you and espacially your money. That is the job of the girls. You should know this. Manhattan and Judys is different, but you have to pay in this case as well if you want more than a couple of drinks. So go there and have fun and spend your money. Btw I never had such a bad experience in this bar or other bars. Such be nice to the ladies and do not forget we are a big family in this world.

Chin Mann

[QUOTE=Bottleit]I hope I'm posting this in the correct place and I'm not disrupting the monger flow. I'm new in shanghai and new to. I guess mongering is the term. I want to dabble.

Thx in advance for any tips/advice/ushering.[/QUOTE]Bottleit,

You've come to the right place, but your opening line just earned you negative points. There is a wealth of information here. Spend some time reading what others have posted, you will not be dissapointed.

EB

[QUOTE=Chin Mann]It is your first time on TRL? Many of these places likes you and espacially your money. That is the job of the girls. You should know this. Manhattan and Judys is different, but you have to pay in this case as well if you want more than a couple of drinks. So go there and have fun and spend your money. Btw I never had such a bad experience in this bar or other bars. Such be nice to the ladies and do not forget we are a big family in this world.

Chin Mann[/QUOTE]


Good advice in general. And glad you've never had problems. However, not my first time (see prior posts) -- more like my 300th time.

Trust me, this place blows chunks. It's a pure scam, and apparently a bit dangerous. I saw it with my own eyes

-B-

[QUOTE=Chin Mann]It is your first time on TRL? Many of these places likes you and espacially your money. That is the job of the girls. You should know this. Manhattan and Judys is different, but you have to pay in this case as well if you want more than a couple of drinks. So go there and have fun and spend your money. Btw I never had such a bad experience in this bar or other bars. Such be nice to the ladies and do not forget we are a big family in this world.

Chin Mann[/QUOTE]

Ah, now I realize why you replied as such. You have 9 posts and 7 of them are ads for this place. I presume you work there or have a friend that does, as I can attest it's pretty much not at all what you claim it to be (unless you enjoy paying 150 RMB per drink for some way below average girls who provide nothing extra).

As far TRL, Manhattan's and Judy's are best for take away and no hassles, true. But duh, we all already know that as it has been reported countless times in this forum.

[QUOTE=Bonzo1]Ah, now I realize why you replied as such. You have 9 posts and 7 of them are ads for this place. I presume you work there or have a friend that does, as I can attest it's pretty much not at all what you claim it to be (unless you enjoy paying 150 RMB per drink for some way below average girls who provide nothing extra).

As far TRL, Manhattan's and Judy's are best for take away and no hassles, true. But duh, we all already know that as it has been reported countless times in this forum.[/QUOTE]
Your post got the best of my curiosity and I also searched and read all of this Chinn Man's previous posts.
Confirmed that this guy has been a Shill for LA club going back to 2008.

Jackson bans Serial Mongers and I think do NOT allow the offering of commercial services on the regular threads - with instructions to post such in the Classified threads instead.

But how about guys like this Chinn Man who is surreptitiously advertising a scam AND DANGEROUS place on this board?

I mean he is luring unsuspecting guys into real danger. Shouldn't Jackson have some rules against this?

Just IMHO - and only asking for you guyses' opinions and suggestion on what to ask Jackson to do.

thanks

SEAJ

[QUOTE=Bottleit]I hope I'm posting this in the correct place and I'm not disrupting the monger flow. I'm new in shanghai and new to. I guess mongering is the term. I want to dabble. I'd like to meet somebody that can show the ropes so-to-speak. I'm in xuhui, and I'd rather not bring anyone to my apartment. I'd like some1 to show me where to go, how much different things cost, etc etc. Preferably no1 pushy, I don't want to be pressured into anything.

I'm not into anything bi so plz don't contact me for anything of that nature.

Thx in advance for any tips/advice/ushering.[/QUOTE]
Suggest STRONGLY that you first read

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Please note that we are NOT travel or tour agents!

SEAJ

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Call me selfish but the worst part of threesomes for me is changing the condom. That said, I rarely find a duo that accept it any other way. I understand the rationale that without the change you might transfer something from the first to the second girl and vice versa.

A couple of months ago I took a duo in CP and agreed a the mamasan that I did not have to change only to find out in the room that it was not the case. I was going to complain to the mommy but just let it go.

If anybody knows a place that can let you get away without changing, I would be grateful for the referral.

OAH[/QUOTE]You are perfectly right.

The best way is to have relation outside sauna with the girls, when you invite 2 in your home or hotel, most of the time they accept not to swap condoms. Did it many times.

[QUOTE=Doitunderwater]Can you elaborate on what to expect "after October 15"? Looks like I will be arriving in Shanghai about the 20th. I was hoping that the situation would ease up after the holiday.

Thanks.

Be safe.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more.

Cryptic prophesies are a pain in the backside.

I am departing Shanghai on 20th October, so no going to the forum for me on the 15th then.

Julius Caesar, aka Cocoon.

My thinking is that activity will resume, close to 'normal'. Discretion in China is important. LaoWei are a small, sometime obnoxious, by product of this activity which we enjoy. Has it changed. Yes. Will it change again. Yes. Ride the wave.

[QUOTE=Cocoon]Couldn't agree more.

Cryptic prophesies are a pain in the backside.

I am departing Shanghai on 20th October, so no going to the forum for me on the 15th then.

Julius Caesar, aka Cocoon.[/QUOTE]

Visited Sacrosa sauna a couple of times last week. I love the leopard outfits they now have.

Address: 5th Floor, Hua Shen Tower, No. 1085 Pudou Road(S)
Phone: 021-58352261

First session:

#192

I'm not sure where she comes from but someone has trained her well. Me and this girl really hit it off well. BBBJTC, CG too completion followed by another BBBJTC. This girl couldn't take all of junior, but damn she tried. She seemed to love having the back of her throat pounded. I thought I had a couple of trojans in my wallet with me, but I was mistaken. Used the little condoms they have and sure enough, I heard and felt a pop. Quickly removed and used every kind of antiseptic she had to clean up and then covered again.

For all you newbies, don't be shy about bringing your own condoms.

Girl:
#192
Face: 9.0
Body: 9.0
GFE: 9.5 (no anal)
WIR: Yes

Had a session next day (with my trojans). Only 3 girls in lineup, busy afternoon. This girl and I did not click. BBBJTC was ok, but not enthusiastic. Complained about size during CG. Stay away from her.

Girl:
#198
Face: 8.0
Body: 8.5
GFE: 2.0
WIR: Not a chance

Goes to show it is sometimes hit and miss on what you get.

[QUOTE=Fitz1971]Visited Sacrosa sauna a couple of times last week. I love the leopard outfits they now have.

Address: 5th Floor, Hua Shen Tower, No. 1085 Pudou Road(S)
Phone: 021-58352261

First session:

#192

I'm not sure where she comes from but someone has trained her well. Me and this girl really hit it off well. BBBJTC, CG too completion followed by another BBBJTC. This girl couldn't take all of junior, but damn she tried. She seemed to love having the back of her throat pounded. I thought I had a couple of trojans in my wallet with me, but I was mistaken. Used the little condoms they have and sure enough, I heard and felt a pop. Quickly removed and used every kind of antiseptic she had to clean up and then covered again.

For all you newbies, don't be shy about bringing your own condoms.

Girl:
#192
Face: 9.0
Body: 9.0
GFE: 9.5 (no anal)
WIR: Yes

Had a session next day (with my trojans). Only 3 girls in lineup, busy afternoon. This girl and I did not click. BBBJTC was ok, but not enthusiastic. Complained about size during CG. Stay away from her.

Girl:
#198
Face: 8.0
Body: 8.5
GFE: 2.0
WIR: Not a chance

Goes to show it is sometimes hit and miss on what you get.[/QUOTE]You're right, I love the new outfit.

I went back to sacrosa as it is now safe, and I tried a very interesting girl:

Girl:

#126 - 19yo, slim, beautiful
Face: 9.0 (I just love this kind... little bit young though)
Body: 9.0 (slim, round butt, ok breast)
GFE: 7.0 (ok, but loss some points as I did have to cheat in order to CIM)
WIR: yes

if anyone tries, tell me your rating

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Your post got the best of my curiosity and I also searched and read all of this Chinn Man's previous posts.
Confirmed that this guy has been a Shill for LA club going back to 2008.

Jackson bans Serial Mongers and I think do NOT allow the offering of commercial services on the regular threads - with instructions to post such in the Classified threads instead.

But how about guys like this Chinn Man who is surreptitiously advertising a scam AND DANGEROUS place on this board?

I mean he is luring unsuspecting guys into real danger. Shouldn't Jackson have some rules against this?

Just IMHO - and only asking for you guyses' opinions and suggestion on what to ask Jackson to do.

thanks

SEAJ[/QUOTE]


You hit the nail right on the head.

I was reading a report about something similar in Hong Kong (scam bar, and I don't mean just overpriced lady drinks - see Kings bar reports if interested), and noticed how the members immediately responded and informed each other of the dangers there. That's how this community is meant to work; in addition to informing us of good places, warn us of bad ones.

I suppose another possibility is that this guy is LE and working some angle that way. Who knows. Whatever the case, I definitely agree that he should be kicked outa here, for the interests and safety of all members.

Went to Heting last week. It was my first time there and it is definitely the nicest joint I have ever been too. Much better deco than Sacrosa. As for girls, they are similar to sacrosa (same owner).

This site is also banned in China.

Used to be accessbile via proxy tools.

However, the major proxy tools such as FreeGate and WJ is banning this site too for religious reasons starting from about 6 months ago.

Anyone know how to access this site inside China?

Hey guys,

You can use [url]www.heavymist.com[/url] to get through the great china fire wall...only can't watch on Youtube. Can update facebook and other things. The only way I got back onto the sex guide... good to be back...

On TRL new Bar called Red Spot or something like that which has good food and music and some nice girls from time to time.

[quote=dragon d]hey guys,

you can use [url]www.heavymist.com[/url] to get through the great china fire wall...only can't watch on youtube. can update facebook and other things. the only way i got back onto the sex guide... good to be back...

on trl new bar called red spot or something like that which has good food and music and some nice girls from time to time.[/quote]

thanks dragon d. in general i prefer vpn's because they allow access to everything, and keep your msn etc. more "private". i have been using expressvpn and witopia (plus a free one), but the speed is absolutely horrible. becoming unusable really.

this looks promising - [url]www.tunnelfox.com[/url].

-b-

i use strongvpn, it's a pay service, but you can connect to servers in various countries as you need. i live here full time, so i don't mind paying for reliability, speed, tech support - and piece of mind.

[quote=carage]this site is also banned in china.

used to be accessbile via proxy tools.

however, the major proxy tools such as freegate and wj is banning this site too for religious reasons starting from about 6 months ago.

anyone know how to access this site inside china?[/quote]

I like to workout by playing ping pong.. any place to play in Shanghai.

Thanks

[quote=mike921]i use strongvpn, it's a pay service, but you can connect to servers in various countries as you need. i live here full time, so i don't mind paying for reliability, speed, tech support - and piece of mind.[/quote]

yeah, strong is like express or witopia, i believe (open source, rental vpn). how's the speed? my speed has been horrible over the past few weeks. like down to 1kbps at times, which is too slow to use things like youtube and facebook (sometimes), and way too slow to download any porn! :)

yes, they use openvpn as well. i'm in shanghai with adsl (tunneling to the hk node), just tested at speednet, up was .44m, down 1.59m. not burnin' down the house, but pretty good for me. option to switch server connections to us, which may be faster.
[quote=bonzo1]yeah, strong is like express or witopia, i believe (open source, rental vpn). how's the speed? my speed has been horrible over the past few weeks. like down to 1kbps at times, which is too slow to use things like youtube and facebook (sometimes), and way too slow to download any porn! :)[/quote]

[QUOTE=Sound7]I like to workout by playing ping pong.. any place to play in Shanghai.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Asking for pingpong places in China is like asking for beer at the Munich October Fest.
I could invite you to come to my company, we have at least 5 tables, all over the place, and I am sure you would find many eager to challenge you.

I simply would ask the service desk of your hotel.

Levitian

[b][color=red]In the summer the beer and wine fest are common in Germany as you indicated. One still visits Munich to feel the Barish culture and see the halls, if one can.

Thanks for the invitation [/b][/color]

[QUOTE=Levitian][b][color=gold]Asking for pingpong places in China is like asking for beer at the Munich October Fest.
I could invite you to come to my company, we have at least 5 tables, all over the place, and I am sure you would find many eager to challenge you.

I simply would ask the service desk of your hotel.

Levitian[/b][/color][/QUOTE]

Just catching up a bit.

This was the RMB800 option where you go directly to a shower/room suite. She undresses you there and performs soapy, BM, etc. on a bed in the shower room, then moves to the adjacent massage room for FJ.
Name: #18 (Lili)
Hometown: Harbin
Age: ~30
Body: 6/10 (not for SYT lover)
Tits: 6/10 ~38 (hangers)
Kissing: 7/10
Massage: 5/10
AR: 5/10
BBBJ: 5/10
FJ: 6/10
GFE: 5/10
Pussy: Ok
ATWG (actual time with girl - phone call to phone call): 90 mins
Damage: 800
RTF: girl - yes, course - NO

Summary: This is definitely the water course if you're into the soapy thing. Room was too cold though. Girl worked hard and had a great personality.

Reverting to the standard course:
Name: Xiao Li
Hometown: Shanghai
Age: ~27
Body: 6/10 (still a little meaty, but i like). VERY pretty face.
Tits: 5/10 ~34
Kissing: Not allowed
Massage: 3/10 (press press style)
AR: 2/10 (lasted all of 30 secs - and yes, my ass was very clean!)
BJ: 5/10
FJ: 2/10
GFE: 1/10
Pussy: Ok
ATWG (actual time with girl - phone call to phone call): 70 mins
Damage: 650
RTF: girl - NO, course - NO (Sarcosa is longer for less)

Summary: I guess with the holidays the (hard working) girls have gone home and I got a local. She spent a lot of time on the BJ, in the hope of no FJ (I am not large). She even suggested HJ. When I made it obvious I wanted to f*ck, she reluctantly agreed. Did everything to hold me from penetrating fully. Flipped her over for doggie (surprised she agreed) and finally came. She was either: new to the trade, unhappy with her job, or unhappy with me. Perhaps all 3......

I'm trying not to be too technical here, all you need to do is to use IP directly. use 72.55.168.26 instead of your normal isg.info.

You also need to add the following entries in your [windir]\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file

72.55.168.26 [url]www.internationalsexguide.info[/url]
72.55.168.26 internationalsexguide.info

It works for me.

[QUOTE=Carage]This site is also banned in China.

Used to be accessbile via proxy tools.

However, the major proxy tools such as FreeGate and WJ is banning this site too for religious reasons starting from about 6 months ago.

Anyone know how to access this site inside China?[/QUOTE]

[quote=mike921]yes, they use openvpn as well. i'm in shanghai with adsl (tunneling to the hk node), just tested at speednet, up was .44m, down 1.59m. not burnin' down the house, but pretty good for me. option to switch server connections to us, which may be faster.[/quote]

for some reason i get decent results on those speed test sites too. but in practice, my internet is extremely slow (although i have a 500kbps line, so local internet is fast of course). so they work, but not very well - certainly good enough to get on this site, but not nearly good enough for work-related stuff, or video-related stuff... or even facebook or youtube much of the time.

waiting for a better solution. i'd pay pretty much anything for decent internet here!

-b-

Any regularly contributing senior members LIVING IN SHANGHAI who might be interested in a more mature (early 40's) married lady can contact me for her WAYN profile.

I did her for about 2 - 2 1/2 years when I lived in Shanghai. She is a very attractive lady, and sexy as hell, likes just raw sex but not into kinky (not even anal).

She will be looking for someone who LIVES in Shanghai. She is not interested in a visitor no matter how regular you visit and will not stay over night at your house. Husband (quite wealthy) lives in a far away province but calls her EVERY night around 9:30 or 10:00 on her land line so no way she can be away from her apartment miss the call. I would see her once or twice a week. She would come to my apartment (she has a car) fuck my brains out and then go home.

I just chatted with her on MSN and she does not have a lover now.

PM me for details only if 1) you live in Shanghai 2) are a regular contributing member.


ES

[QUOTE=Eaglestar]Any regularly contributing senior members LIVING IN SHANGHAI who might be interested in a more mature (early 40's) married lady can contact me for her WAYN profile.

I did her for about 2 - 2 1/2 years when I lived in Shanghai. She is a very attractive lady, and sexy as hell, likes just raw sex but not into kinky (not even anal).

She will be looking for someone who LIVES in Shanghai. She is not interested in a visitor no matter how regular you visit and will not stay over night at your house. Husband (quite wealthy) lives in a far away province but calls her EVERY night around 9:30 or 10:00 on her land line so no way she can be away from her apartment miss the call. I would see her once or twice a week. She would come to my apartment (she has a car) fuck my brains out and then go home.

I just chatted with her on MSN and she does not have a lover now.

PM me for details only if 1) you live in Shanghai 2) are a regular contributing member.


ES[/QUOTE]

Damn..... E.S.!

You're tempting me to pull up stakes and move my residence to Shanghai!!

SEAJ

[QUOTE=Bottleit]I hope I'm posting this in the correct place and I'm not disrupting the monger flow. I'm new in shanghai and new to. I guess mongering is the term. I want to dabble. I'd like to meet somebody that can show the ropes so-to-speak. I'm in xuhui, and I'd rather not bring anyone to my apartment. I'd like some1 to show me where to go, how much different things cost, etc etc. Preferably no1 pushy, I don't want to be pressured into anything.

I'm not into anything bi so plz don't contact me for anything of that nature.

Thx in advance for any tips/advice/ushering.[/QUOTE]



rtff Bott

pc out

Eagle star, because of the proxy I am using I am unable to send private messages but can receive and then respond. Dont' know what's up. Cna you email me instead? [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]

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Me-thinks it's got nuthin to do with proxies or connection.

You are simply not able to send out PMS because you haven't paid for your membership to ISG.

So how about ponying up $19.95 - for a WHOLE YEAR - to join us group of misfits, malcontents AND mongers!!

Just IMHO

SEAJ

Hi Guys,

I visited Shanghai for the first time some months ago, stayed in a hotel in Pudong. Our biz contacts took us out to some german named place if I remember well some 20 min taxi drive could still have ben Pudong, can't remember the name but it's a chain, we had dinner in another one of the restaurants some days later on the river somewhere.

Sounds all a bit vague, sorry about that, just can't remember. However the place was ok, a band playing, full of people just having dinner and full of pro's as well. Took a girl to the hotel, in the morning when she left paid her USD100, seems to be ok, was pretty gfe.

Now I have rtff some 20 pages back, but I can not find information on these types of places and would appreciate if anybody has any names/adresses to share of clubs/disco's whatever, where there is a mix of " normal" people going out as well as (semi) pro's ?

I will be going back to shanghai end of next week and any info is highly appreciated.

Thanks and bye for now.

BR

Hey guys

I was thinking about going back to China during the holidays, about maybe 2-3 weeks. And wondering if the saunas are open during the holidays or not.

I'm also thinking about visiting HK and some of the famous saunas of Macau, do they operate like usual during the western holidays?

My plan is to stay in Pudong, very close by sacrosa and ba dong (within walking distance), usually I stay at SH, but I like to try something new, only tried SH before. The only down side I can think about is that it might be more difficult to get call girls to pudong (more expensive). What do you guys think?

Was the name of the 'German' place possibly PAULANER?




[QUOTE=Brotherrabitt]Hi Guys,

I visited Shanghai for the first time some months ago, stayed in a hotel in Pudong. Our biz contacts took us out to some german named place if I remember well some 20 min taxi drive could still have ben Pudong, can't remember the name but it's a chain, we had dinner in another one of the restaurants some days later on the river somewhere.

Sounds all a bit vague, sorry about that, just can't remember. However the place was ok, a band playing, full of people just having dinner and full of pro's as well. Took a girl to the hotel, in the morning when she left paid her USD100, seems to be ok, was pretty gfe.

Now I have rtff some 20 pages back, but I can not find information on these types of places and would appreciate if anybody has any names/adresses to share of clubs/disco's whatever, where there is a mix of " normal" people going out as well as (semi) pro's ?

I will be going back to shanghai end of next week and any info is highly appreciated.

Thanks and bye for now.

BR[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Was the name of the 'German' place possibly PAULANER?[/QUOTE]

You are right, that's it, thanks for jogging my memory :).

Any suggestions on other places like it ?

Thanks

BR

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Me-thinks it's got nuthin to do with proxies or connection.

You are simply not able to send out PMS because you haven't paid for your membership to ISG.

So how about ponying up $19.95 - for a WHOLE YEAR - to join us group of misfits, malcontents AND mongers!!

Just IMHO

SEAJ[/QUOTE]Seaj:

Please. I hope you are talking about me. I'm quite well adjusted. Contented with life and just enjoys the finers. Things in life especially when the someone else's bored "trophy wife" is paying for it.

If I am not contented with what I see, I just throw out a razor and some creme at the gal and tell her to make me content. Simple. Like I said, I will not do what you ask me not to do anymore. I won't do it, I just let them do it for me.

Is anyone in SH right now, and can report if anything is going on?

How about Manhattan.? Any girls?

Will be back later this week. And my regular has gone home for the holiday. Said everything was too slow. Just trying to plan my trip.

Thanks

Was at (Puxi) Malone's Sat. night - dead.

[QUOTE=Mark17]Is anyone in SH right now, and can report if anything is going on?

How about Manhattan.? Any girls?

Will be back later this week. And my regular has gone home for the holiday. Said everything was too slow. Just trying to plan my trip.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Went to Manhattan two weeks ago around 10pm.

A lot of girls there, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc.

Had a Vietnam girl for overnight.

Good GFE one.

[QUOTE=Mark17]Is anyone in SH right now, and can report if anything is going on?

How about Manhattan.? Any girls?

Will be back later this week. And my regular has gone home for the holiday. Said everything was too slow. Just trying to plan my trip.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Paulaner has probably the nicest environment, but the game is a bit 'indirect'. Not all women there are WGs. If you want a place of 'go straight down to the business', I would recommend Manhattan or Judy on Tongren Rd or Zappata on Henshan Rd.[QUOTE=Brotherrabitt]You are right, that's it, thanks for jogging my memory :).

Any suggestions on other places like it ?

Thanks

BR[/QUOTE]

for the info, much appreciated.

BR


[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Paulaner has probably the nicest environment, but the game is a bit 'indirect'. Not all women there are WGs. If you want a place of 'go straight down to the business', I would recommend Manhattan or Judy on Tongren Rd or Zappata on Henshan Rd.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=San Chex]Hey guys

I was thinking about going back to China during the holidays, about maybe 2-3 weeks. And wondering if the saunas are open during the holidays or not.

I'm also thinking about visiting HK and some of the famous saunas of Macau, do they operate like usual during the western holidays?

My plan is to stay in Pudong, very close by sacrosa and ba dong (within walking distance), usually I stay at SH, but I like to try something new, only tried SH before. The only down side I can think about is that it might be more difficult to get call girls to pudong (more expensive). What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]

You are not seriously thinking about coming back to SHA for Xmas/New Year only for mongering reasons, aren't you ?!??!
Because ... I might think easily about 50 - 100 other places I rather would spend this time of the year, with even better mongering opportunities than Shanghai.

Levitian

[QUOTE=Levitian]You are not seriously thinking about coming back to SHA for Xmas/New Year only for mongering reasons, aren't you? ! ? !

Because. I might think easily about 50. 100 other places I rather would spend this time of the year, with even better mongering opportunities than Shanghai.

Levitian[/QUOTE]No I'm not, I've got some friends that I'm also visiting. The reason why I'm going to shanghai first is because the flight tickets are 3-4k cheaper than going directly to HK

San Chex

Hey folks:

Sent a reply to a recent Craigslist ad - easy to see since there is photo there, and was provided prices and photos for five cuties in "Amanda's" stable.

I wrote back that she's over 900 too high on LT and 400 too high on ST FS, but wanted to see if anyone as tried or can attest to girls or service.

Given drought of late, I really don't want to tick off any mommies who provide door-to-door convenience, since there isn't any Domino's in SHH yet :)

D23

Her email below:

[quote]The service detail as follows,

l General massage: 600rmb for 1.5 hours.Service invlove in traditional massage,blowjob with condom,handjob.

l Full service (One relationship): 900rmb for 1.5 hours.Full service including normal sex

with any sexual style u like,blowjob without condom, relaxation massage ,cum on the face or body, breast,69 lick each other ,threesome etc.

l Full service(Overnight):1900rmb for overnight.Generally,The service duration is:10:00PM to next day 8:00AM,Can make a corresponding adjustment based on ur schedule.

Actually,I am the organizer of service girls,Ad pic shown is one of the service girl here.Attached some pics of the nice girls here ,FYI.[/quote]

I know this has been covered already but for some reason I cannot search ISG threads using my proxy (slyuser). Also, when I try to access adult friend finder using my proxy, I am not able to reach the site. As I remember, Adult FF has another name in China which is easier to reach. Can anyone help with the alternate name for adult ff?

Given the fact that the standard price for 1 hour full service sauna sex is around RMB700, it may not be too over priced. It always depends on the quality. I have had FS for RMB500, but I ended up whith what I had paid for.


[QUOTE=Douglas23]Hey folks:

Sent a reply to a recent Craigslist ad - easy to see since there is photo there, and was provided prices and photos for five cuties in "Amanda's" stable.

I wrote back that she's over 900 too high on LT and 400 too high on ST FS, but wanted to see if anyone as tried or can attest to girls or service.

Given drought of late, I really don't want to tick off any mommies who provide door-to-door convenience, since there isn't any Domino's in SHH yet :)

D23

Her email below:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Douglas23]Hey folks:

Sent a reply to a recent Craigslist ad - easy to see since there is photo there, and was provided prices and photos for five cuties in "Amanda's" stable.

I wrote back that she's over 900 too high on LT and 400 too high on ST FS, but wanted to see if anyone as tried or can attest to girls or service.[/QUOTE]In my experience with Craigslist girls in SHA, they will try to upsell you to RMB1500 or more -- I've sent several packing. I wouldn't say RMB900 is too bad.

[QUOTE=South Gate]I know this has been covered already but for some reason I cannot search ISG threads using my proxy (slyuser). Also, when I try to access adult friend finder using my proxy, I am not able to reach the site. As I remember, Adult FF has another name in China which is easier to reach. Can anyone help with the alternate name for adult ff?[/QUOTE]

Another possibility for a search is 'xmatch.com'. It will guide you to the same side.
.... but the quality will not be better: spams, ... hard to judge whats real and whats not worth to react ...

Good Luck!

[QUOTE=Globe Spinner]In my experience with Craigslist girls in SHA, they will try to upsell you to RMB1500 or more -- I've sent several packing. I wouldn't say RMB900 is too bad.[/QUOTE]


I read that to mean "more than 900 too high LT and 400 to high ST", i.e. subtract 900 LT and you get the price he thought would be fair, not 900 total.

There are few CG girls that won't try to way upsell and overall it is a gigantic scam and waste of time (zero real pictures too), but if you want the convenience of home delivery and if you don't like here and have better options I suppose it could work out ok.

Strong suggestion - negotiate the price for full service BEFORE you agree for the girl to come over, and be very clear about it. Also, do not expect a massage, regardless of what they say. And again, there's aren't any real pictures on there, so don't gauge anything by the pictures (or even the text for that matter).

-B-

My girlfriend and I used to use adult friend finder to find swing parties and other couples into group sex. I finally got onto the site but am disappointed that it is worse than it used to be. Any ideas about swing sites or groups?

Bobby

[QUOTE=Deep Fritz]Another possibility for a search is 'xmatch.com'. It will guide you to the same side.
.... but the quality will not be better: spams, ... hard to judge whats real and whats not worth to react ...

Good Luck![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=South Gate]My girlfriend and I used to use adult friend finder to find swing parties and other couples into group sex. I finally got onto the site but am disappointed that it is worse than it used to be. Any ideas about swing sites or groups?

Bobby[/QUOTE]

There's a swing site that exploded on the scene 3 months ago on craigs. I'm sure you've heard of it. I joined and quit.
Too many fakes, single guys posing as couples, chics in the couple claiming (lying) to be bisexual and ofcourse faggots.

Anyways, I am not going to get in the nude in the presence of another man, so my aim was to find a bi chic for a 3sum. I hooked-up with a 30 year-old "full" (130lbs.) chic on craigs who was eager to hook-up with another bi chic, but we never found her.

Btw, I had three or four times outcall from the Shanghai Times classified pages 1-2 years ago and I always got decent service (FS) for a decent fee. I was always very specific about what I wanted and asked for the relevant price on the phone. Never experienced any upsell. But maybe I was just lucky and the game has changed since then?







[QUOTE=Deep Fritz]Another possibility for a search is 'xmatch.com'. It will guide you to the same side.
.... but the quality will not be better: spams, ... hard to judge whats real and whats not worth to react ...

Good Luck![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bonzo1]Strong suggestion - negotiate the price for full service BEFORE you agree for the girl to come over, and be very clear about it. Also, do not expect a massage, regardless of what they say. And again, there's aren't any real pictures on there, so don't gauge anything by the pictures (or even the text for that matter).

-B-[/QUOTE]I agree fully, B. And the thing you can be completely sure of is that the picture is not the real girl. I found CL in SHA to be a complete waste of time.

Hi,

I will be in Shanghai this monthend for 2-3 days and would be staying in IBIS hotel, 300 Fang Dian RoadPudong.

This is my first visit to china and hence would appreciate any specific suggestions on places near to this hotel and about this hotel as well.

Any info on how far are the other good mongering locations would be appreciated

Thanks

Mitian

This may be old news to some of you but I just noticed that the JinQiao hotel is gone and with it the 24 hour spa located there. That is a shame. It was the only place in Pudong that I knew of that could handle a before work quickie at 7AM.

I don't know of anything full service within walking distance of the IBIS. For good full service you should get into a cab and head over to Sacrosa, Merry Lin or Marriott Courtyard (search the forum for details).

I have had one friend stay at the IBIS and he will not stay there again but he usually stays at the Radisson or the Novotel so IBIS is a big step down.

Frito

[QUOTE=Mitian 1994]Hi,

I will be in Shanghai this monthend for 2-3 days and would be staying in IBIS hotel, 300 Fang Dian RoadPudong.

This is my first visit to china and hence would appreciate any specific suggestions on places near to this hotel and about this hotel as well.

Any info on how far are the other good mongering locations would be appreciated

Thanks

Mitian[/QUOTE]

If any of you get to the Red Lips Inn, directly across the street from the Sofitel, Pudong. Say Hi to Yue for me. Kar

Thanks

I'm visiting Shanghai (first time) and would like to know in which bars/discotheques can I find young chinese freelance girls to spend the night with.

Can anyone let me know if I can access to Sofitel Pudong with a *****?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Catalonian]I'm visiting Shanghai (first time) and would like to know in which bars/discotheques can I find young chinese freelance girls to spend the night with.

Can anyone let me know if I can access to Sofitel Pudong with a *****?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

What a JO! ! ! !

Prior Canalonian posts: "I am visiting................."

8-14-07 Venezuela please help me find pussy
8-14-07 Dominican Republic please help me find pussy
8-14-07 Colombia please help me find pussy
7-21-09 Colombia please help me find pussy
7-22-09 Bogata please help me find pussy
10-12-09 Shanghai please help me find pussy

What a dork. Canalonian it is likely you can find pussy if you look between your legs.

ES

[QUOTE=Eaglestar]What a JO! ! ! !

Prior Canalonian posts: "I am visiting................."

8-14-07 Venezuela please help me find pussy
8-14-07 Dominican Republic please help me find pussy
8-14-07 Colombia please help me find pussy
7-21-09 Colombia please help me find pussy
7-22-09 Bogata please help me find pussy
10-12-09 Shanghai please help me find pussy

What a dork. Canalonian it is likely you can find pussy if you look between your legs.

ES[/QUOTE]

I was tempted to comment here, too.
You did it perfectly, thanks.

Levitian

[QUOTE=Catalonian]I'm visiting Shanghai (first time) and would like to know in which bars/discotheques can I find young chinese freelance girls to spend the night with.

Can anyone let me know if I can access to Sofitel Pudong with a *****?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

Greetings. There are many excellent places in Qing Pu area. Just ask a taxi to take you to Qing Pu (sound like "Ching Poo") and ask for the bar area (jiu ba, sounds like "Joe Bah"). No need to RTFF or contribute your findings there - we all already know about it.

[QUOTE=Catalonian]I'm visiting Shanghai (first time) and would like to know in which bars/discotheques can I find young chinese freelance girls to spend the night with.

Can anyone let me know if I can access to Sofitel Pudong with a *****?

Thanks![/QUOTE]It depends if you're in Pudong or Puxi. If you're in Pudong, hop in a cab and ask for Pudong jichang. If you're in Puxi, ask for Hongqiao jichang.

'Jichang' is colloquial for brothel in Chinese.

Have a good trip!

[QUOTE=Mitian 1994]Hi,

This is my first visit to china and hence would appreciate any specific suggestions on places near to this hotel and about this hotel as well.
Any info on how far are the other good mongering locations would be appreciated
Thanks
Mitian[/QUOTE]
Ibis hotels on worldwide basis are pretty much the same everywhere and pretty basic. you get a bed, you get a bathroom with shower, clean but basic. it is part of the Accor (french) chain that starts with Formule 1 (if I am not wrong) goes up to Ibis, then Novotel, then Mercure...
it is a decent 3 *** hotel. In general.

On my way to Shanghai and then CP. Whilst in SHH, hoping to do Zapata's, Bourbon Street, as well as at least one of the three AsianFriendfinder girls (30+) I have on the go( damn 24 yr old seems on to me....) Of course I've tried this route before Zaps, AFF, and on the off nights end up at my fave sauna(s).

Are they still safe given recent crackdowns ?

I'm thinking

Sarcosa - will be new experience for me
Tian Hao - like the costumes
Buo Duo - treat me well and costumes
999 - new to me try this trip

and of course my old fave Yu Ping which I think is closed or relocated and used to be near Renaissance Yangtze Hotel.

Can anyone please advise at earliest convenience if they know of any issues ?

Thanks,

D23

[QUOTE=Douglas23]
Can anyone please advise at earliest convenience if they know of any issues ?

Thanks,

D23[/QUOTE]


Safe. Everything with Saunas are back to norm, no issues. Even the BBS's are back in business.

MK

I have only been to LA Cafe. It is 2000 takeout and a bill for night of say 1100- 1500. Someitmes I go to little KTV near Renaissance Yagntze. Cannot remember the name but it is there in bright lights.. Will publish upon my return, where I sit at bar, eat some nuts, and mama brings small lineup out for me to choose from. Have drink at bar and then leave with her for 900 LT if I recall. All kind of foggy, since I end there drunk, having struck out on freebie chases.

Just wondering if anyone can let me know of a few god KTV places that are either reasonable or have little bar where you can get lineup experience without loneliness and cost of one in a room.

Thanks in advance, and if any Bros looking for KTV pals, I'm in the city from Friday to Tuesday. Send me a note.

Thanks all.

D23

[QUOTE=Monkey King]Safe. Everything with Saunas are back to norm, no issues. Even the BBS's are back in business.

MK[/QUOTE]Good to hear that. Did not visit any of the saunas during my trips in September. But will give it a try again next week.

You mention that the BBS 's are also back in business. In what area? I walked around some areas before but it seemed they had all vanished.

Thanks,

Charlie

[QUOTE=Charlie Shanghai]
You mention that the BBS 's are also back in business. In what area? I walked around some areas before but it seemed they had all vanished.

Thanks,

Charlie[/QUOTE]

Try the Xiaomuqiao Lu strip. Also try the Luoxiu Lu strip between Lianhua lu and Hongmei Lu at night. Old haunts in Jingan have been cleaned out, too central.

MK

Hi,
after my disappointment some months ago and as it seems to be again safe I yesterday gave 999 another chance.
Good news: no raid and no. 821 has nice boobs. But that's all positive.
Anyhow it was not easy to relax - whenever there were people walking outside I already got nervous and imagined all the things happening in case it's a raid...
To the facts: As the boobs are told to be important in a soapy I chose no. 821 for that reason; also she was the only one smiling for me..already when she approached me I knew it was a fault..no charme, even no touch..just makes me following her..in the room everything very mechanical..it is very clear: this is a service like a hair cut or a car repair.
Cleaning up - nothing sexy. Soapy..yes, not bad because of her body - but after each (learnt) step she says "ok" like putting an x to a check box.
She tries to talk while doing the soapy like my gay hair dresser talks with me about football when cutting. Ok - done. She points to the bed. Ok. Lay down.
She shows a short skirt and askes if I want her to wear that - but erotic is in the head of the people, not in the clothes. So it goes on..whereever she touches me she first cleans with a special tissue (although I had the shower and her clean up before). Cat Bath Left leg Ok. Right. Ok. Rimming. Ok. Turn around. Red Rope. Condom. Put it in. Quick move. Happened. Ok.
Nothing sensual, no tenderness..can not be more far from GFE. Probably enough for chinese customers (sorry but I am sure about that), but a western guy expects more.
She rubs my leg to fill the time gap till round 2..probably she calls this a massage. I have a look at the clock...30 min over - I decide to leave, nothing to expect anymore...she wants to keep me back and thinks that it is because she only speaks some words of english. I try to explain to her that I expect GFE with kisses...she looks at me with big eyes - as bis as chinese eyes can be - and says "KISS???????????" Like I asked her to slaughter her cat and dog and whatever is important to her...I let her take a shower; when the manager calls and asks me "massage ok?" I say clearly "no!!" - but I do not think this has any influence, no one will ever ask for the reason and no. 821 has no idea. In her eyes sex means: the woman does some services and activities on a man and at the end there comes some creamy product out of him.
When paying I try to leave a comment there - but the guys and ladies try to ignore me, being afraid to admit that they do not speak english.
By the way: I understood that the criteria whether paying 680 or 780 is the check-out time, not the check-in..at least one advantage as I saved 100 RMB by leaving after 30min. And I decreased the risk to be raided.....
In total: Very, very, very disappointing, even worse then the first visit.

Was guest in the Hilton during the holidays. Much to my surprise was able to access the ISG from the hotel computer. Anyone else had similar experiences at their hotels. Granted it was the hotel's hardware but still puzzled. Also noticed that all the bars down the street from the Hilton were closed. As a matter of fact, the buildings were being torn down. Purely from a sentimental perspective, it was a shame to see the familiar haunts being replaced by another Gap and Express outlet.

As expected things were very quiet during my short visit. Malone's was empty. Manhattan was just starting to pick up a little as I walked by at around 10 PM on a Tuesday evening.

[QUOTE=Eagle88]It depends if you're in Pudong or Puxi. If you're in Pudong, hop in a cab and ask for Pudong jichang. If you're in Puxi, ask for Hongqiao jichang.

'Jichang' is colloquial for brothel in Chinese.

Have a good trip![/QUOTE]

But "Jichang" is also Chinese for "airport", so you're very likely to end up outside Terminal 2, looking confused, if you say that as a destination to a taxi driver! I suggest simply asking for "an mo" (massage) - he will probably know exactly what you want, and at worst you'll end up at a "straight" massage shop, where if necessary you can try the process again - it won't take long to find what you want.

Waves is still going strong. Conch plaza on zhong shan west road and wuzhong road. Was there the other day and had about 20 girls in the fish bowl. Ended up with 927. Really nice girl with a good attitude. No kissing but otherwise was great. Did the afternoon thing to save 100. Damage was 680.

As a newbie I want to post this guide for all other newbies who join this wonderful forum in order to make things easier for them. Because I had to spent so many hours to find places address and phones.

Malone's (Tongren Lu) 请带我去铜仁路255号，近南京西路，
Address: 255 Tongren Lu, near Nanjing Xi Lu
Phone: (0086 21) 6247 2400
Hours: Daily, 10am-2am

Babyface 请带我去淮海中路138号 上海广场101室, 近普安路
Address: No. 101, Shanghai Square, 138 Huaihai Lu, near Pu'an Lu
Phone: (0086 21) 6375 6667
Hours: Sun-Thu, 9pm-3.30am, Fri-Sat, 9pm-4.30am

Zapata's 请带我去衡山路5号， 近东平路
Address: 5 Hengshan Lu, near Dongping Lu
Phone: (0086 21) 6433 4104
Hours: Daily, 5pm-late

Rendezvous Cafe 请带我去南京西路1486号,近铜仁路
Address: 1486 Nanjing Xi Road
Phone: (0086 21) 6247 2307

Club G Plus 请带我去新天地南里广场5楼, 兴业路123 弄，近马当路
Address: 5/F, South Block Plaza, Lane 123 Xingye Lu, near Madang Lu
Phone: (0086 21) 5386 8088
Hours: Daily, 9pm-late

Manhattan bar
ADDRESS: 68-72 Tongren Road

Judy's (Tongren) 请带我去铜仁路78号-80号
Address: 78-80 TongRen Road
Phone: (0086 21) 6289 3715

Also despite I searched for address of some places I wrote below I found their names in forum but no address info about them

Heting, marriot courtyard, merry lin, yu ping and a few a good KTV in huangpu or pudong region which offers qualty line ups.

Waiting for your replies.

At the top right hand side of this page is a SEARCH feature. If you use it the bulk of your questions will be answered.

[QUOTE=Kilic Aslan]As a newbie I want to post this guide for all other newbies who join this wonderful forum in order to make things easier for them. Because I had to spent so many hours to find places address and phones.

Malone's (Tongren Lu) 请带我去铜仁路255号，近南京西路，
Address: 255 Tongren Lu, near Nanjing Xi Lu
Phone: (0086 21) 6247 2400
Hours: Daily, 10am-2am

Babyface 请带我去淮海中路138号 上海广场101室, 近普安路
Address: No. 101, Shanghai Square, 138 Huaihai Lu, near Pu'an Lu
Phone: (0086 21) 6375 6667
Hours: Sun-Thu, 9pm-3.30am, Fri-Sat, 9pm-4.30am

Zapata's 请带我去衡山路5号， 近东平路
Address: 5 Hengshan Lu, near Dongping Lu
Phone: (0086 21) 6433 4104
Hours: Daily, 5pm-late

Rendezvous Cafe 请带我去南京西路1486号,近铜仁路
Address: 1486 Nanjing Xi Road
Phone: (0086 21) 6247 2307

Club G Plus 请带我去新天地南里广场5楼, 兴业路123 弄，近马当路
Address: 5/F, South Block Plaza, Lane 123 Xingye Lu, near Madang Lu
Phone: (0086 21) 5386 8088
Hours: Daily, 9pm-late

Manhattan bar
ADDRESS: 68-72 Tongren Road

Judy's (Tongren) 请带我去铜仁路78号-80号
Address: 78-80 TongRen Road
Phone: (0086 21) 6289 3715

Also despite I searched for address of some places I wrote below I found their names in forum but no address info about them

Heting, marriot courtyard, merry lin, yu ping and a few a good KTV in huangpu or pudong region which offers qualty line ups.

Waiting for your replies.[/QUOTE]

Anyone has experience with a place called Shanghai Pili Entertainment on the Nanjing street? Is this place a fraud? I had several whiskey shots over there with some chick and when they billed me, it was almost 53USD/shot, which is way more expensive than what I saw on the menu when I first came in (they took the menu away after I looked at it for not even 2 minutes).

Thanks!

Anyone has experience with a place called Shanghai Pili Entertainment on the Nanjing street? Is this place a fraud? I had several whiskey shots over there with some chick and when they billed me, it was almost 53USD/shot, which is way more expensive than what I saw on the menu when I first came in (they took the menu away after I looked at it for not even 2 minutes)

[QUOTE=Monkey King]Safe. Everything with Saunas are back to norm, no issues. Even the BBS's are back in business.[/QUOTE]I was skeptical but it seems things did change as the huge KTV/Sauna at Shimen 2 lu/Xinzha lu was closed (or lights turned off at least) since the first raids several months ago. And it seems back in action today.

Anyone got more info?

Someone said after October 15 it would get bad agai. Doesn't look like it?

[QUOTE=Jas V]Anyone has experience with a place called Shanghai Pili Entertainment on the Nanjing street? Is this place a fraud? I had several whiskey shots over there with some chick and when they billed me, it was almost 53USD/shot, which is way more expensive than what I saw on the menu when I first came in (they took the menu away after I looked at it for not even 2 minutes).

Thanks![/QUOTE]

You have been stung.

First, RTFF and then second, FTFF again, and third ... don't go with an unknown to an unknown bar.

Hopefully, for you, a cheap lesson.

If your Chinese language is up to it, you can report this to LE.

Just my opinion and advice.

P13

[QUOTE=Jas V]Anyone has experience with a place called Shanghai Pili Entertainment on the Nanjing street? Is this place a fraud? I had several whiskey shots over there with some chick and when they billed me, it was almost 53USD/shot, which is way more expensive than what I saw on the menu when I first came in (they took the menu away after I looked at it for not even 2 minutes)[/QUOTE]Bro

You really need to RTFF. Btw, it is way cheaper to pay ISG subscription fee. One shot of whiskey would pay for almost three ISG subscription. You newbie make me ROFL. How hard is it to RTFF. No place in America would dare to charge you 53 dollars for a shot of whiskey.

For anyone who has ever had an off duty BBS or sauna girl give you private service at your home/their home, what is your typical tip? I tip 1x the normal fee charged by the house, but they get to keep every yuan of it so it's a good deal for them.

[QUOTE=Tasss]For anyone who has ever had an off duty BBS or sauna girl give you private service at your home/their home, what is your typical tip? I tip 1x the normal fee charged by the house, but they get to keep every yuan of it so it's a good deal for them.[/QUOTE]

If the girl is a sauna girl and she is strictly doing this for extra work, then you negotiate. You should be able to pay her less since the house normally takes a cut of the total you pay as a normal sauna customer.

For BBS girls if the fee is normally 200rmb (which most are, some are only 150rmb) then you might be able to negotiate 300rmb for an hour or two of her time away from the shop.

However, if you find the right sauna girl she won't charge you anything.

[QUOTE=Mock A Bee]If the girl is a sauna girl and she is strictly doing this for extra work, then you negotiate. You should be able to pay her less since the house normally takes a cut of the total you pay as a normal sauna customer.

For BBS girls if the fee is normally 200rmb (which most are, some are only 150rmb) then you might be able to negotiate 300rmb for an hour or two of her time away from the shop.

However, if you find the right sauna girl she won't charge you anything.[/QUOTE]Sauna girls take 5-7 days off in a month for various reasons. I got one to come over for free after seeing her twice at the sauna. I paid for the dinner and in the morning I give her a very small taxi fee, generally 200-300rmb. Don't expect a sauna service though, the experience is much more GFE. Sauna girls need love too.

[QUOTE=Temujin87]Sauna girls take 5-7 days off in a month for various reasons. I got one to come over for free after seeing her twice at the sauna. I paid for the dinner and in the morning I give her a very small taxi fee, generally 200-300rmb. Don't expect a sauna service though, the experience is much more GFE. Sauna girls need love too.[/QUOTE]I had a sauna girl come over for the night. One of the best experiences ever had and thought she deserved the 700 rmb (same as the house fee where I met her). She didn't ask for any money. Full sauna-like service, except the soapy which wasn't going to happen at my hotel obviously. Interesting though that some will come for free, I guess it just means more business for them.

[QUOTE=Temujin87]Sauna girls take 5-7 days off in a month for various reasons. I got one to come over for free after seeing her twice at the sauna. I paid for the dinner and in the morning I give her a very small taxi fee, generally 200-300rmb. Don't expect a sauna service though, the experience is much more GFE. Sauna girls need love too.[/QUOTE]

Very often, if a sauna girl is off duty, it is because she is on the rag.

Thus far, I have not found a girl in China who will let you do her while she is on the rag. I have suggested that it is not a big deal at all if we have sex in the shower, but no such luck yet. Thus far they all absolutely refuse!

I have met sauna girls who will have lunch or dinner with you, go shopping, etc. as if you were bf/gf... but won't let you have sex with them because they are usually on the rag.

MAB

[QUOTE=Mock A Bee]Very often, if a sauna girl is off duty, it is because she is on the rag.

Thus far, I have not found a girl in China who will let you do her while she is on the rag. I have suggested that it is not a big deal at all if we have sex in the shower, but no such luck yet. Thus far they all absolutely refuse!

I have met sauna girls who will have lunch or dinner with you, go shopping, etc. as if you were bf/gf... but won't let you have sex with them because they are usually on the rag.

MAB[/QUOTE]Mab, yes, they take days off for the rag obviously. That's not always the case. The sauna system works like this: the girl takes home a portion of the money you paid to the sauna. Every time she takes a day off, she loses the income from the day AND she pays a 300-500rmb penalty on top. After you understand the economics of things it's a lot easier to put things in perspective.

The girl was actually mentioned on ISG (that's how I knew who to pick). She would just take days off because she was so popular and made tons of money regardless.

Got the itch. Fell off the wagon. You decide.

209 Wulumuqi Lu, 5/f

Saturday, 5pm or thereabouts. Lots of girls in the fishbowl. Some not bad lookers. Took 89. Knew the routine but did it with some style and panache.

90mins, 790RMB

Currently offering a 2nd girl for free for 10 minutes in the shower. Nice try at an upsell but number 9.. If they are going to send in a second make sure she is top notch. She was booted out after the 10 minutes.

WGS

[QUOTE=Mock A Bee]Very often, if a sauna girl is off duty, it is because she is on the rag.

Thus far, I have not found a girl in China who will let you do her while she is on the rag. I have suggested that it is not a big deal at all if we have sex in the shower, but no such luck yet. Thus far they all absolutely refuse!

I have met sauna girls who will have lunch or dinner with you, go shopping, etc. as if you were bf/gf... but won't let you have sex with them because they are usually on the rag.

MAB[/QUOTE]There is a general thinking among Chinese girls that sex during the period is dangerous. Their body would be more vulnerable and something bad can happen. Even the most educated ones have told me this story. Even after I directed them to medical website that confirms the contrary, they are still worried. I think it comes from their mothers. Just one more excuse not to have sex with the husband. However if they are nice enough they will offer greek or BJ.

Ya. Most Chinese women do think that you can get a variety of diseases from having sex during their period. Most of my gfs have learned to live with it though over time. They think mainly its dirty too. Showed them the medical website. Even google translated it for one girl who didn't know English. Then they typed it in Chinese into Chinese google and the Chinese medical websites say its a no no. Sigh. So there comes the Chinese girls body is different from the lao wai girls body. So many excuses in this country for everything. But we still love it. Its what makes for good jokes with the boys over a couple half yards of beer.

With the closing of the Jinqiao Hotel my options for a pre-work poke in the whiskers are gone unless one of you folks know of some other 24 hour options in the Pudong area.

Any suggestions for a sauna or spa that provides full service between 6am and 8am in the Pudong area? It makes the work day a whole lot better.

Thanks,

Frito

There's a spa on the corner of youlin rd and pudong avenue l think.

Next to a hotel. you can drive there at night and find out.

Hi,

I just arrived back in Shanghai, not staying for long and I really miss places like the Shanghai Hotel.

Does anyone know if they are up and running again?

Thanks

I just went exploring this afternoon and came across this sauna right opposite of the Four Seasons Hotel in Pudong, I believe the hotel which the sauna was actually in was called Merilyn Hotel. The sauna itself was on the 3rd floor, pretty standard stuff, after shower get led into a room with tv and some sofas, then was asked if you want to get a massage straight away, then you are shown around 8-9 girls (according to my girl there are 30+ girls there), of the girls that I saw, they were around score 6-7s, I picked the one with the biggest tits because I just love them, once you are in the room, the girl will ask you if you are going to stay the full 70 mins, please say yes or else the girl will hurry you thru the process as mine did, but I didn't mind because I didn't really have much time anyway.

Price was $550 before 8pm, enjoy.

[QUOTE=Blackjai]I just went exploring this afternoon and came across this sauna right opposite of the Four Seasons Hotel in Pudong, I believe the hotel which the sauna was actually in was called Merilyn Hotel.
Price was $550 before 8pm, enjoy.[/QUOTE]
Do you mean the Intercontinental Hotel in Pudong?

Last week the price was 680 in the afternoon. I will check it out.

[QUOTE=Blackjai]I just went exploring this afternoon and came across this sauna right opposite of the Four Seasons Hotel in Pudong, I believe the hotel which the sauna was actually in was called Merilyn Hotel. The sauna itself was on the 3rd floor, pretty standard stuff, after shower get led into a room with tv and some sofas, then was asked if you want to get a massage straight away, then you are shown around 8-9 girls (according to my girl there are 30+ girls there), of the girls that I saw, they were around score 6-7s, I picked the one with the biggest tits because I just love them, once you are in the room, the girl will ask you if you are going to stay the full 70 mins, please say yes or else the girl will hurry you thru the process as mine did, but I didn't mind because I didn't really have much time anyway.

Price was $550 before 8pm, enjoy.[/QUOTE]

With again thanks to Beijing Fox for his helpful suggestions in Pudong, I never had the chance to visit them this week, too many meetings and a very wrong "travel shock" induced biorythm.

I was staying in the Green Garden Hotel on Weifang Road, a 4 star USD 70/night place, clean, free internet, small but ok gym, and a nice nasi goreng for RMB 58.

Just around the corner from the hotel there are some 4-5 massage places next to eachother and I went for one on the last night, RMB 200 for the massage, 200 RMB tip for the extra's, you know the routine, nothing special, but alleviated some pressure on balls :).

Next time, I will go back to Paulaner or the other places mentioned by BF, during my last visit some months ago I paid RMB 1000 for an all nighter, much better value for money than the massage of course, ah well, sometimes plans do not work out as they should.

Thanks again for the info, next time I might actually have something to report :).

Ciao boys.

BR

Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. Been causing all KINDS of trouble these last weeks. Agree, for some it is a bit of a "No-no" but for the current GF it is a complete "NO!" But then she relented. Now she is convinced she is super ill and being a *?!£ing nightmare with it. She does have a mild bout of cystitis though. But doctors here do not seem to know how to clear it up. It was never an issue with my western GF(s). Practically gagging for it (esp. as hormone levels rise during a period apparantly). Nah, rephrase that, she was gagging for it.

I guess that is another reason saunas are so popular here. Somewhere to go during the week (make that 10 days for current example) off.

WGS

[QUOTE=Dragon D]Ya. Most Chinese women do think that you can get a variety of diseases from having sex during their period. Most of my gfs have learned to live with it though over time. They think mainly its dirty too. Showed them the medical website. Even google translated it for one girl who didn't know English. Then they typed it in Chinese into Chinese google and the Chinese medical websites say its a no no. Sigh. So there comes the Chinese girls body is different from the lao wai girls body. So many excuses in this country for everything. But we still love it. Its what makes for good jokes with the boys over a couple half yards of beer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pushkin13]You have been stung.

First, RTFF and then second, FTFF again, and third ... don't go with an unknown to an unknown bar.

Hopefully, for you, a cheap lesson.

If your Chinese language is up to it, you can report this to LE.

Just my opinion and advice.

P13[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Bnlee2]Bro

You really need to RTFF. Btw, it is way cheaper to pay ISG subscription fee. One shot of whiskey would pay for almost three ISG subscription. You newbie make me ROFL. How hard is it to RTFF. No place in America would dare to charge you 53 dollars for a shot of whiskey.[/QUOTE]Tks bros for the info. I suspected that I was ripped off right after I looked at the bill. And yes, a shot of whiskey in the states only costs around 7-12 bucks. It was my first time ever in China and I didn't know about this community until I already left that place (wish I had known)

Btw, I'm newbie here and not familiar with the acronyms. Can someone please explain what RTFF, ISG, FTFF, and LE mean? Is there a thread in this forum that I can learn about all the acronyms?

Tks again!

[QUOTE=Jas V]

...

Btw, I'm newbie here and not familiar with the acronyms. Can someone please explain what RTFF, ISG, FTFF, and LE mean? Is there a thread in this forum that I can learn about all the acronyms?

Tks again![/QUOTE]

For abbreviations, see above.

Enjoy

P13 (my personal little abbreviation, because everyone knows that Pushkin is a famous Russian writer, and I don't need to write his name every time!)

So what is the current safety (LE raids) for established saunas now, i.e. 999, Sacrosa?

If successful, should we be issueing trip reports or keeping this quiet?

Do not particularly care about what we do. Sauna owners will shut down when they are concerned. They will warn the girls and some stop working. Sometimes the sauna closes. Reasons given are 'plumbing problems' or 'renovations'. This a China and few of us understand certain aspects of this activity. I have no safety issues. While ISG is blocked in China I understand there are Chinese sites which I'm sure are more up to date than ISG.

[QUOTE=Marwar58]So what is the current safety (LE raids) for established saunas now, i.e. 999, Sacrosa?

If successful, should we be issueing trip reports or keeping this quiet?[/QUOTE]

Sorry I know I should read the whole thread before posting, but I was wondering if you guys would answer a quick question.

I've never been to China, and I live and experience life in Japan.

Are there regular busts by police? If I hire an escort what's the chance it will be police etc?

I'm planning to head to China in February, and I have to say compared to Japan, China is totally alien to me.

Any thoughts?

[QUOTE=Yuffei]Sorry I know I should read the whole thread before posting, but I was wondering if you guys would answer a quick question.

I've never been to China, and I live and experience life in Japan.

Are there regular busts by police? If I hire an escort what's the chance it will be police etc?

I'm planning to head to China in February, and I have to say compared to Japan, China is totally alien to me.

Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]

Shanghai is a bit risky nowadays than it was in the past and as a result, I am not mongering here at all anymore, although I am a bit paranoid. The potential danger is being deported and blacklisted (ahem) from returning to China.

For me, that risk far outweighs the reward. If you are moving here long term, then I suggest you become a signed member and get your PM's sorted out. Most of the long term members are not posting their knowledge here *at least the good stuff - due to not wanting to see it ruined by lurkers and subsequently LE. I have seen it happen many times here. They will usually share stuff via PM if you ask nicely though.

If you are here for a short time and can't be arsed forking out the dosh for a membership, then I would probably go to Tongren Lu strip, which is well known for working girls of all shapes, sizes and nationalities by EVERYONE and go for take out - try Manhatten. You should pay no more than 800RMB and best to grab one after midnight for the rest of the eve.

There are BBS around as well, but I am guessing you don't have language skills and the paranoia could seriously ruin the experience. Saunas sound okay now but I would still be worried. With the freelancers in TRL, I have never heard of anyone getting busted so you should be fine.

Good luck in any case!

On another note, I and friends of mine are literally getting DAILY SMS's from KTV owners which speak of naked action - upwards of 300 girls on duty, etc.

Far more messages than before, although I have been told business is still booming, does seem a bit desperate.

None the less, it is working on me. I am keen as fuck to hit one of them in the near future. 300 hot chicks just boggles the mind.....

Sigh...

[QUOTE=Waldeck2]While ISG is blocked in China I understand there are Chinese sites which I'm sure are more up to date than ISG.[/QUOTE]Actually, if you use a proxy server like [url]www.heavymist.com[/url] and use the numeric url of ISG, you can get into the ISG just fine -- just don't try to make posts doing this, as you will get bumped out.

Went to Merrylin this afternoon. I was charged 680 rmb. I insisted it was 550. They stood firm on 680. I have been going to Merrylin for a year. I was always charged 680. I doubt the 550 price. Maybe the price is 550 for Chinese? Anyone else been charged 550?

[QUOTE=Blackjai]I just went exploring this afternoon and came across this sauna right opposite of the Four Seasons Hotel in Pudong, I believe the hotel which the sauna was actually in was called Merilyn Hotel. The sauna itself was on the 3rd floor, pretty standard stuff, after shower get led into a room with tv and some sofas, then was asked if you want to get a massage straight away, then you are shown around 8-9 girls (according to my girl there are 30+ girls there), of the girls that I saw, they were around score 6-7s, I picked the one with the biggest tits because I just love them, once you are in the room, the girl will ask you if you are going to stay the full 70 mins, please say yes or else the girl will hurry you thru the process as mine did, but I didn't mind because I didn't really have much time anyway.

Price was $550 before 8pm, enjoy.[/QUOTE]

I would PM you but you can't accept them.

[QUOTE=Yuffei]Sorry I know I should read the whole thread before posting, but I was wondering if you guys would answer a quick question.

I've never been to China, and I live and experience life in Japan.

Are there regular busts by police? If I hire an escort what's the chance it will be police etc?

I'm planning to head to China in February, and I have to say compared to Japan, China is totally alien to me.

Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]

I was in Shanghai for a couple of weeks, departing 20th October. No proxy server.

Boduo on Xietu Road looks long deserted.

Shanghai Hotel was dark. Just my luck, it was shut the last time I was in Shanghai as well.

Went to Waves, had a soapy session. Good as always.

Went to Heting; road works is disorientating when you come out of the Metro. Very good decor, but I find sharing waiting room somewhat awkward. Selection of girls nothing special. Saw someone classy walking down the corridor, but she was not in the line up. The acts the girl wanted to go through was quite interesting. Didn't get round to the "Depth Charge" (hot water condom up pussy). I will have to have a longer session next time to fit everything in.

I looks as if standards are getting higher.

One of these days, they are going to outshine the PlayBoy Mansion, where the girls are models, and you need to be a billionaire to be invited.

The only LE activity seems to be outside bars (Hengshan Road, TongRen Road), so probably a bad idea to pick up to go. Otherwise plenty of places open for business.

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Has rooms with two chairs. Develop a little conversation with the staff, dammit. They are friendly and helpful -- at least they were to me. And let them pick the girl -- tell them what you are looking for and what you expect.

[QUOTE=Cocoon]I was in Shanghai for a couple of weeks, departing 20th October. No proxy server.

Boduo on Xietu Road looks long deserted.

Shanghai Hotel was dark. Just my luck, it was shut the last time I was in Shanghai as well.

Went to Waves, had a soapy session. Good as always.

Went to Heting; road works is disorientating when you come out of the Metro. Very good decor, but I find sharing waiting room somewhat awkward. Selection of girls nothing special. Saw someone classy walking down the corridor, but she was not in the line up. The acts the girl wanted to go through was quite interesting. Didn't get round to the "Depth Charge" (hot water condom up pussy). I will have to have a longer session next time to fit everything in.

I looks as if standards are getting higher.

One of these days, they are going to outshine the PlayBoy Mansion, where the girls are models, and you need to be a billionaire to be invited.

The only LE activity seems to be outside bars (Hengshan Road, TongRen Road), so probably a bad idea to pick up to go. Otherwise plenty of places open for business.

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In response to Cocoons concern about Police on TGL, I have been traveling to Shanghai for 4 years visiting several times per year. I usually go to TGL to find WG several times each visit. I have always seen police around the TGL bars, such as Manhattan's or Judy's, especially on weekends.

They are there to make sure people stay civil on this street. I have left with several WGs and they have never cared or even looked twice at me. Nor have I heard about anyone being stopped by them for leaving with a pretty, young girl.

In fact, I think the safest P4P in Shanghai is to meet a WG at a bar. Have a few drinks together and then you can decide if you want to go back to your hotel. I have never heard of a sting in China using this technique. The real risk is that you are bringing a stranger into your hotel room so make sure all valuables are secure.

AL

2009-10-29 07:42

A FOREIGNER on a business trip who had sex with two prostitutes and then wrongly accused them of stealing US$40,000 from him immediately phoned police - and found himself in detention.

Somebody had obviously neglected to tell him that prostitution is illegal in China. The man, identified only as Beck, and his two "companions" were placed in detention for 15 days.

Source:Shanghai Daily

[QUOTE=AsianLover]In response to Cocoons concern about Police on TGL, I have been traveling to Shanghai for 4 years visiting several times per year. I usually go to TGL to find WG several times each visit. I have always seen police around the TGL bars, such as Manhattan's or Judy's, especially on weekends.

They are there to make sure people stay civil on this street. I have left with several WGs and they have never cared or even looked twice at me. Nor have I heard about anyone being stopped by them for leaving with a pretty, young girl.

In fact, I think the safest P4P in Shanghai is to meet a WG at a bar. Have a few drinks together and then you can decide if you want to go back to your hotel. I have never heard of a sting in China using this technique. The real risk is that you are bringing a stranger into your hotel room so make sure all valuables are secure.

AL[/QUOTE]Those aren't police - they are more like private security. They don't do shit about anything (including help you with any trouble - they won't). They are there for decoration purposes only.

That said, be cautious these days. China is not Thailand where you can parade around with whomever and doing whatever you want. Discretion is wise.

-B-

Yeah, those are security guards on tong ren. They keep the street walkers off the sidewalk. If you ever walk out of one the bars early in the morning you will find cheap girls on the street with the taxis.

A few months back the guards did beat down a drug dealer that tried to sneak in the back door of manhattans after being thrown out the front door. The dealer fell and hit his head, ended up dieing later.

Inside Judys & Manhattans is pretty much the same as recent months. Girls will ask 1500-2000rmb LT. 99% will go far 1000. 800 is pretty easy if you chat up the girl. 500 for the girls that dont get frequent business.

The normal bar on Tongren Red Beat closed last month, and just read that Blue Frog is closing soon. I think the bar street will be moving soon.

Have been coming to China off and on for a long time. And have used different techniques to get the girls. But this time was a bit lazy and tried the online expat forums to find (I know its always more of a miss than a hit)

But this one post got be a bit interested in Tantric Massage. Had read a few thing about it so wanted to try. The girl came and did not do or know jack shit about this massage and was thoroughly dissapointed. The next day wanted to try some white meat and again too lazy so there is one lady posting on expat (white Polish). Wanted to first see the pics so she sent me her pic (face covered) but again which is usually the case the body did not match even the one shown to me. Anyways she was a great talker and talked a lot and the action was just ok no big deal. I had learned this lesson before not to trust these online ads but fell prey to it again. Anyways won't try again for a long long time.

Had tried this one chick from the online sites (her own site). High class white escort. Rates damn expensive and see goes by elite courtesan. (tried this one about 8 monhts back (hint you can search on googles for elite courtesan shanghai) and her site should be the top one. Figure was nice but face was blurred in the pics and thus it was left to your imigantion. Well I had looked at her pics from all angles to make sure the face was attractive and worth that amount of money and thought it was pretty nice. But in real life the face is not that great. She is tall around 5' 10" with a great body though. Session was ok not too bad. But would not pay that much again. Says she is from europe and half german and half Russian but I guess that means full Russian as accent is nothing like german accent.

[QUOTE=Makeupaname]Yeah, those are security guards on tong ren. They keep the street walkers off the sidewalk. If you ever walk out of one the bars early in the morning you will find cheap girls on the street with the taxis.

A few months back the guards did beat down a drug dealer that tried to sneak in the back door of manhattans after being thrown out the front door. The dealer fell and hit his head, ended up dieing later.

Inside Judys & Manhattans is pretty much the same as recent months. Girls will ask 1500-2000rmb LT. 99% will go far 1000. 800 is pretty easy if you chat up the girl. 500 for the girls that dont get frequent business.

The normal bar on Tongren Red Beat closed last month, and just read that Blue Frog is closing soon. I think the bar street will be moving soon.[/QUOTE]Yep - the entire street will be closed soon. I'm guessing by the end of this year, but almost certainly by Chinese new years.

A pity, but many good (and some not so good) memories.

[QUOTE=Makeupaname]Yeah, those are security guards on tong ren. They keep the street walkers off the sidewalk. If you ever walk out of one the bars early in the morning you will find cheap girls on the street with the taxis.[/QUOTE]There used to be twins that would prowl around. They had some reputation in SH. They were unmistakable - blond(ish), with big fake boobs. One was pretty nice, the other a total b**ch (strange as that may sound).

Anyone know what happened to them?

B

Hello Boys,

Which KTVs in Shanghai are currently the hottest ones with the most and higest quality talents?

Thanks

Thanks guys. Having fun in Shanghai for last 3 weeks. Couple of data points for you

Golden18 is still the best after trying lot of them. Had 7, 76, 1, 86 over two session. 76 was wild with no English and 76 was wild with some English. Had them in pair. Nothing new to add than what has been posted but 76 is best in AR if you into that stuff.

Stayed in Shanghai hotel and talked with managers. The 2nd floor is closed. Went to Sarcosa. Had good time with 558. But still Golden18 is the best.

Heading to Chengdu to taste some waters there.

Once again thanks a lot guys for all the hard word and guidance. It worth every penny.

Planning to be back in Shanghai next two weeks to explore further. Any good ideas. Heiting is one which I have not tried. Planning to stay in CYM this time considering various options.

[QUOTE=Ander Jeff]Had tried this one chick from the online sites (her own site). High class white escort. Rates damn expensive and see goes by elite courtesan. (tried this one about 8 monhts back (hint you can search on googles for elite courtesan shanghai) and her site should be the top one. Figure was nice but face was blurred in the pics and thus it was left to your imigantion. Well I had looked at her pics from all angles to make sure the face was attractive and worth that amount of money and thought it was pretty nice. But in real life the face is not that great. She is tall around 5' 10" with a great body though. Session was ok not too bad. But would not pay that much again. Says she is from europe and half german and half Russian but I guess that means full Russian as accent is nothing like german accent.[/QUOTE]How much did you pay for how long?

OAH

Hey everyone,

Saunas are still a little dangerous but if you go to 5 star hotels no risk at all. I have excellent hint with a great girl:

24, GFE, horny like hell, and one of best BJ in shanghai... beautiful body and OK face.
she is number 892 (careful, number has to be given shere you change clothes, not at reception)

tel of place: 021-58895656
address: 889 pudong YangGao nan road
it is a hotel (sauna inside)
in Chinese:
浦东杨高南路889号
东锦?索非特大酒店裙楼
梦龙水宫桑拿

Have fun and tell me your feedback!

In return I expect more contribution for our community, as far as place and girls rating + numbers

SC

[QUOTE=Bonzo1]Yep. The entire street will be closed soon. I'm guessing by the end of this year, but almost certainly by Chinese new years.

A pity, but many good (and some not so good) memories.[/QUOTE]Bonzo,

TRL is been going down hill for a long time anyway, I am surprise it last this long, this is just a overprice place for newbie expat anyway and I only been there once 4 yr ago and never went back, there many cheaper and better place to go than there.

Fast Eddie 48

Returned from annual Shanghai trip.

Time invested in Asian Friendfinder got me a nice date, but not worth pursuing. I must be getting soft in older age to not want to break her heart (though her pics were a lot better).

First night. CL order in. Girl was NOT 22 (said they all were.). Place is run by "Angela" who answers the emails, and my girly, Cindy, was probably 30, but pretty good service and amazing rack and nipples about an inch long. So-so night. Don't recommend Amanda who runs the Craigslist ad solely on her misrepresentation.

Hit the saunas another night. Buo Duo. Though I arrived at midnight. Looked like it has closed or moved.

Tian Hao. Arrived even later, and it has gone downhill. One girly to choose from, good service, but dingy surroundings and I'm sure that was mold on the pillow case.

TRL was full of Phillipinos and Thais. Not my thing in mainland do that gig when in Hong Kong.

Zapata's my usual haunt for freebies was filled with expats and very few ladies at the door. Left both nights empty handed (hence trip to sauna and call to Craig gal).

All in all Shanghai a little quiet for my tastes. Agreed I should have tried Sarcosa, and if I wasn't so tired, I would have gone to KTV that is on thrid floor kitty-corner from Sheraton Hongqiao. They have a small walk up bar like in a hotel, and you can ask to see lineup for a takeout. I prefer this to dealing with streetside touts who no doubt go there and other like it for their supply.

Flew to SHZ. Off to CP and DG where action improved considerably.

D23

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Recently I had two sessions in Sarcosa. The place seems as lively as ever. In both time I had to wait for almost an hour. The girl told me they have more girls than rooms.

The girl was 178. Petite but nice body. Very GFE. Long and enthusiastic BBBJ and cat bath. Nice and relaxing but the basic routine is getting to me. I am looking forward to trying out the various soapie places. Cheers

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Bonzo,

TRL is been going down hill for a long time anyway, I am surprise it last this long, this is just a overprice place for newbie expat anyway and I only been there once 4 yr ago and never went back, there many cheaper and better place to go than there.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]


Word I got from some of the gals is that all the bars on Tongren will be closed 15 NOV. It is my understanding that at least the owners of Manhattan have plans to open/operate another establishment in another location. It seems they are keeping the location close to the vest at this time. This part is speculation, but probably because they haven't finalized all the necessary "documents". I don't know exactly when the new place will be in operation. I don't think it will take long, because all the Filipina, Thai, Viet gals will have to go home if they don't have someplace to work.
I haven't heard a thing about Judy's or if the closing of Tongren will affect Malone's as well. Stay tuned!!

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]Word I got from some of the gals is that all the bars on Tongren will be closed 15 NOV. It is my understanding that at least the owners of Manhattan have plans to open/operate another establishment in another location. It seems they are keeping the location close to the vest at this time. This part is speculation, but probably because they haven't finalized all the necessary "documents". I don't know exactly when the new place will be in operation. I don't think it will take long, because all the Filipina, Thai, Viet gals will have to go home if they don't have someplace to work.

I haven't heard a thing about Judy's or if the closing of Tongren will affect Malone's as well. Stay tuned!![/QUOTE]Drove through Tongren Lu, on Sunday, the whole strip looked very seedy and run down. I was also in Changli Lu, Saturday night, place seemed to be overrun with Philipinas! Bar strip is on the doorstep of the Eton Hotel.

ice

Once you know the girl you can determine the routine and change it as you want to. If she knows you a little and is comfortable with you she will change what she does to suit you.

[QUOTE=Mike666]Recently I had two sessions in Sarcosa. The place seems as lively as ever. In both time I had to wait for almost an hour. The girl told me they have more girls than rooms.

The girl was 178. Petite but nice body. Very GFE. Long and enthusiastic BBBJ and cat bath. Nice and relaxing but the basic routine is getting to me. I am looking forward to trying out the various soapie places. Cheers[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]TRL is been going down hill for a long time anyway, I am surprise it last this long, this is just a overprice place for newbie expat anyway and I only been there once 4 yr ago and never went back, there many cheaper and better place to go than there.[/QUOTE]Eddie with all respect - if you have only been to TRL once in 4 years then I doubt that you can speak with authority.

Personally I go to TRL EVERY night I am in Shanghai - maybe 20 nights per year.

Indded I know many guys from Australia, USA, England, Germany indeed many European countries who live in Shanghai or who visit regularly and who are ONLY interested in picking up girls in a BAR TYPE atmosphere.

I - and them - are not interested in BBS's or KTV's - please point me to the 'many cheaper and better place to go than there' that you allude to?

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Eddie with all respect - if you have only been to TRL once in 4 years then I doubt that you can speak with authority.

Personally I go to TRL EVERY night I am in Shanghai - maybe 20 nights per year.

Indded I know many guys from Australia, USA, England, Germany indeed many European countries who live in Shanghai or who visit regularly and who are ONLY interested in picking up girls in a BAR TYPE atmosphere.

I - and them - are not interested in BBS's or KTV's - please point me to the 'many cheaper and better place to go than there' that you allude to?[/QUOTE]Billy,

If I want flipper I go to Manila and Bangkok for Thai girl, I think Zapata late night is a good place to pick up freelance flipper, I also have good luck at Rojam at the Hong Kong plaza for freelancer Chinese girl, TRL girl target tourist and expat that will paid high price for their service, most local know better they just go there to drink they will not paid the kind of price the girl ask for and there are a few bbs in shanghai you can still get service for 200 rmb.

Fast Eddie 48

Hope you guys don't mind asking for your opinion without having contributed much to the site yet.

I'm worried about police raids and all the stories I hear about mongers being arrested and put into prison and loosing their resident permit.

How dangerous do you think are HJ BBS or massage places that offer HS on top of a regular massage, like Peakcook ? Dangerous as in getting raided. I have a company here and can't risk to loose my resident permit, but I also don't want to give up on those warm lovely HJs.

Has anyone actually had any experience with being arrested ?

A message (or actually messages) I received today from a lady I knew only on line but makes me wish to be back in Shanghai...... I never did her.


Her name — 09:17 AM
yesterday night, I have lost sleep. very bad feeling and want to talk something with you. maybe for you are older me, maybe you can understand my life

Her Name — 09:18 AM
i hv young body, but i have no sex, no hug, no guy.

Her Name — 09:34 AM
i need them. but for serious, i never do anything with guy. and can't talk my trouble to people in china. it's alone, lamentable life for me. i want to shout, to cry, to abreact......

Her Name — 09:35 AM
some time, i want to die. life is too hard for me

No one ask me for her contact info cuz I ain't gonna give it. I am her "Father Confessor" only

ES

[QUOTE=Eaglestar]A message (or actually messages) I received today from a lady I knew only on line but makes me wish to be back in Shanghai. I never did her.

Her name — 09:17 AM

Yesterday night, I have lost sleep. Very bad feeling and want to talk something with you. Maybe for you are older me, maybe you can understand my life

Her Name — 09:18 AM

I have young body, but I have no sex, no hug, no guy.

Her Name — 09:34 AM

I need them. But for serious, I never do anything with guy. And can't talk my trouble to people in China. It's alone, lamentable life for me. I want to shout, to cry, to abreact.

Her Name — 09:35 AM

Some time, I want to die. Life is too hard for me

No one ask me for her contact info because I ain't gonna give it. I am her "Father Confessor" only

ES[/QUOTE]Ask for her contact info? She sounds like she's got some serious emotional issues. No thanks.

A week ago Saturday I went out on the town in Shanghai. (One side note: next time I fly into PVG, I will take the maglev train so as to reduce the time I spend with a kamikaze Shanghai taxi driver.)
Coming down Nanjing West Lu, one the left -hand side you have Manhattan, Judy's and several other places. I don't know most of these places, but there seemed to be a lot of people in Manhattan, behind closed doors. A year ago, I had a great time with a couple of girls at Chicago (and even got a quick good-night smooch from one.) One of the good things about that place was the go-go dancer, though there seemed to be none on duty Saturday night. Overall, business seemed a bit slow.
I turned and went down Tongren Lu in the opposite direction, toward Malone's. One the way, I got propositioned by one drug dealer, a cute 3-year old street urchin boy, and a street walker.
There was a pretty fun party going on in Malone's. There was a Filipino cover band called Art 6 playing, which seemed to have a fondness for the music of Bon Jovi and Guns & Roses (they played a little too much Bon Jovi, in my opinion.) The crowd was a mixture of many expats (who seemed mostly British), along with some people on dates and Filipinas. There were also a couple ladyboys at the bar. There was one really cute girl who came in, probably drunk, with a big stuffed animal and accompanied by a doofus with a man-purse. I felt a bit sorry for her. Qing Daos were a whopping 45 RMB! The Filipinas at the bar were not particularly flirty, though a couple of regular girls seemed to be. I did, though, get propositioned by two working girls while I was there.
It was a pretty bad scene when I left, about 2:30 a.m. A pair of streetwalkers propositioned me between Malone's and Nanjing Lu. One pushed her large boobs up to get me to look while she made a clumsy attempt to stick her hands in my pockets. Towards the other bars, the cute little kid was still there, having mastered the phrase "Give me money!" Although I had contributed earlier, he followed me aggressively for quite a while. When I reached the bar strip on TRL, most of the bars had pretty well cleared out. There were a couple of streetwalkers out in front that were also very aggressive. One latched onto me and attempted an aggressive price negotiation, and I had climb into a taxicab to flee.
What is it with Shanghai? The next day on the Nanjing Lu pedestrian zone, I was besieged by the typical vendors of CDs/watches/bags/t-shirts. On three occasions, girls struck up conversations with me (I'm not irresistibly attractive). When I told one I wouldn't buy her a beer, she turned on her heel and left. (I am familiar and quite leery of getting caught in a Shanghai teahouse/art student scam.) Another girl was cute behind thick glasses, and I should have worked her harder. By the end, I was amused by the female attention I was getting.

[QUOTE=Eaglestar]Any regularly contributing senior members LIVING IN SHANGHAI who might be interested in a more mature (early 40's) married lady can contact me for her WAYN profile.

I did her for about 2 - 2 1/2 years when I lived in Shanghai. She is a very attractive lady, and sexy as hell, likes just raw sex but not into kinky (not even anal).

She will be looking for someone who LIVES in Shanghai. She is not interested in a visitor no matter how regular you visit and will not stay over night at your house. Husband (quite wealthy) lives in a far away province but calls her EVERY night around 9:30 or 10:00 on her land line so no way she can be away from her apartment miss the call. I would see her once or twice a week. She would come to my apartment (she has a car) fuck my brains out and then go home.

I just chatted with her on MSN and she does not have a lover now.

PM me for details only if 1) you live in Shanghai 2) are a regular contributing member.

ES[/QUOTE]Hey Eaglestar,

I've been a regular visitor to Shanghai and I've just moved here recently. Just began checking the board out and plan to contribute regularly (thus, I'm not a senior member). Very interested in your old fling.

Are you up for sharing info? If so, let me know. We can chat on msn or something so you know I'm a normal, legit guy. 27 years old, attractive. Don't think she'll be disappointed, unless she likes older guys.

T

New to Shanghai, but love the scene so far.

I've only had one mongering experience in my limited time here. BBS on Fumin Lu between Changle and Julu. Passed by and saw slim, sexy legs in a tiny plaid schoolgirl skirt, so I had to go back to try out her services.

Went in, saw the girl I came for and asked for a massage. She was very enthusiastic and had a GREAT body. Fantastic legs in heels and that skirt. Went to the back, only a curtain, where she began a sorry excuse for massage for 60RMB. Asked if I wanted a 2 girl massage for 100 more. I said sure, why not.

Another girl came in, not as attractive but at this point, I was already fingering girl #1 underneath her skirt as she was sucking on my nipples. The second girl started rubbing my crotch and finished me as I was fingering my mini-skirt girl. Ended up paying about 300 total for 2 girls. She looked great in that skirt, but probably won't repeat. I'm anxious to try out all this city has to offer.

Plaid skirt girl:
Face - 7
Body - 8 (the skirt and heels do wonders)
Attitude - 7 (cheerful, but clearly lookin for the cash)
Service - 6 (pretty standard, nothing too exciting)

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[QUOTE=Eaglestar]Any regularly contributing senior members LIVING IN SHANGHAI who might be interested in a more mature (early 40's) married lady can contact me for her WAYN profile.

I did her for about 2 - 2 1/2 years when I lived in Shanghai. She is a very attractive lady, and sexy as hell, likes just raw sex but not into kinky (not even anal).

She will be looking for someone who LIVES in Shanghai. She is not interested in a visitor no matter how regular you visit and will not stay over night at your house. Husband (quite wealthy) lives in a far away province but calls her EVERY night around 9:30 or 10:00 on her land line so no way she can be away from her apartment miss the call. I would see her once or twice a week. She would come to my apartment (she has a car) fuck my brains out and then go home.

I just chatted with her on MSN and she does not have a lover now.

PM me for details only if 1) you live in Shanghai 2) are a regular contributing member.

ES[/QUOTE]Hey Eaglestar,

I'm new to Shanghai. Just moved here from the States. Thus, I'm not a senior member. Yet. I can't wait to try out all this city has to offer.

Would you be up for sharing info on your old fling? I have[blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue] you want to make sure I'm legit and normal first.

Thanks.

T

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In China, if you can't verify it yourself, be careful what you believe. And that includes what you read in ISG. Check out the reports, do your homework. Do the legwork. I do not know where one could get accurate information on whose visa was revoked or who lost there residence permit. I frequest a sauna. The manager knows my face. PM if you want.

[QUOTE=Smorb 27]Hope you guys don't mind asking for your opinion without having contributed much to the site yet.

I'm worried about police raids and all the stories I hear about mongers being arrested and put into prison and loosing their resident permit.

How dangerous do you think are HJ BBS or massage places that offer HS on top of a regular massage, like Peakcook ? Dangerous as in getting raided. I have a company here and can't risk to loose my resident permit, but I also don't want to give up on those warm lovely HJs.

Has anyone actually had any experience with being arrested ?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Eddie with all respect - if you have only been to TRL once in 4 years then I doubt that you can speak with authority.

Personally I go to TRL EVERY night I am in Shanghai - maybe 20 nights per year.

Indded I know many guys from Australia, USA, England, Germany indeed many European countries who live in Shanghai or who visit regularly and who are ONLY interested in picking up girls in a BAR TYPE atmosphere.

I - and them - are not interested in BBS's or KTV's - please point me to the 'many cheaper and better place to go than there' that you allude to?[/QUOTE]

Only other bar strip is probably Julu lu or just opposite the Hilton. Both are more expensive than TRL (lady drinks in Julu lu are 70RMB) but I have heard things sometimes can get raunchy there.

I think Eddie is somewhat right in the call that it is for newbies, but I would add that last time I have been there it seems to be minimum age of 50 Y.O westerners.

I personally don't know anywhere that you could say is close to TRL in atmosphere and entertainment similarity.

It has a unique place in the Shanghai nightlife scene and will sad to see close down, despite its annoyances and prices.

[QUOTE=Smorb 27]Hope you guys don't mind asking for your opinion without having contributed much to the site yet.

I'm worried about police raids and all the stories I hear about mongers being arrested and put into prison and loosing their resident permit.

How dangerous do you think are HJ BBS or massage places that offer HS on top of a regular massage, like Peakcook ? Dangerous as in getting raided. I have a company here and can't risk to loose my resident permit, but I also don't want to give up on those warm lovely HJs.

Has anyone actually had any experience with being arrested ?[/QUOTE]

I have been locked inside a BBS for 30 mins while the girls waited for the police to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off. That was 3 mths back. Scared me away though.

If it's an absolute must, I would choose a quiet neighborhood late at night where you can slip in and out without anyone being the wiser. There are a few on Dong Zhu An Bang Lu close to Jiangsu lu which might fit the bill.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Blacklisted]I have been locked inside a BBS for 30 mins while the girls waited for the police to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off. That was 3 mths back. Scared me away though.

If it's an absolute must, I would choose a quiet neighborhood late at night where you can slip in and out without anyone being the wiser. There are a few on Dong Zhu An Bang Lu close to Jiangsu lu which might fit the bill.

Good luck![/QUOTE]

I don't know about Shanghai but I've been told by LE in SZ that it is a real pain in the ass to arrest a foreigner. The paperwork is a nightmare and they often have to deal with foreign embassies getting involved. Most LE would rather avoid it and tend to just send you on your way. I've been in similar situations where I was asked to hide in a BBS or room until the LE moved on. I've also been in BBS areas when raids went down and the LE just asked me to leave the area quickly.

Just my POV.

OAH

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Billy......If I want flipper I go to Manila and Bangkok for Thai girl, [/QUOTE]Eddie I agree with you here - personally I go to Angeles City in Phils - US$30 for an 18 to 20yo Filipino is much better value than the US$100+ that the burnt out old Filipino 'boilers' in TRL ask for.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]TRL girl target tourist and expat that will paid high price for their service,[/QUOTE]W.h.o.r.e.s all around the world target 'tourists' or 'visitors' - nothing special here about TRL. Personally I DO NOT consider RMB800 to RMB1,000 all night as being too much for the Chinese or Mongolian of my choice. I often pay RMB2,000 all night for Russians in Manhattan - that is about the rate for girls out of bar settings like Manhattan, Judys, and the XTD bars Paulaner, Rendezvous, and even Zapatas.

As I mentioned in my original post - MANY MANY western guys are NOT INTERESTED in the filthy cockroach infested cum soaked surrounds of a BBS. Billy only takes girls back to his hotel and gets them showered up first before going to work. And many guys are not interested in waiting til 3 or 5 in the morning to try to get a freebie who hasn't picked up a job earlier in the night.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48] most local know better they just go there to drink they will not paid the kind of price the girl ask for [/QUOTE]Many many of the groups of guys who frequent Manhattan or Judys consist of 1 or 2 guys who live / work in Shanghai who bring their visitors / guests / business visitors their for 1 reason - they know this is the type of location preferred by western visitors and they know they can pick-up reasonably safely there - ie western guys l;ike to enjoy a drink in a civilised locale and choose / negotiate with whichever providor they desire and at the time they desire.

TRL does indeed provide a great location for the needs of regular westerners or visitors to Shanghai - just because it does not suit your needs or particular requirements please don't condemn it.

[QUOTE=Blacklisted]Only other bar strip is probably Julu lu or just opposite the Hilton. Both are more expensive than TRL (lady drinks in Julu lu are 70RMB) but I have heard things sometimes can get raunchy there.[/QUOTE]
Julu Lu is the TOTAL RIP-OFF centre of Shanghai - yes the attempts to get raunchy there are nothing short of ways to 'drag' the customers in - then 'fleece' them.
[QUOTE=Blacklisted]I think Eddie is somewhat right in the call that it is for newbies, but I would add that last time I have been there it seems to be minimum age of 50 Y.O westerners.[/QUOTE]Well I am over 50 - should age even be considered?

When I am there I look around and notuce I am at the top end of the age bracket in attendance - plenty of guys there 35 to 45yo.

As for the 'newbie' tag - again is this wrong? Everybody who has ever been to Shanghai has been a 'newbie' at some time or other - they have equal rights to enjoy the fruits available as 'veterans'. What they pay is their business - if the girl is smart enough to get over the odds from them - good luck to her. You and I and Eddie know the rates - we won't get ripped off (hopefully).

LONG LIVE TRL Billy says - or at least give me a suitable alternative - anything but BBS's.

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Julu Lu is the TOTAL RIP-OFF centre of Shanghai - yes the attempts to get raunchy there are nothing short of ways to 'drag' the customers in - then 'fleece' them[/QUOTE]Julu Lu is no longer, the entire street has been torn down, all bars are closed. Here's a piece from a local columnist a few weeks ago when it shut down:

[i]Julu Lu has been closed, a loss I liken to losing my saved game in The Legend of Zelda. It's kind of a pain in the ass but I'll get over it. The word on the street is that it was a business deal, plain and simple. No foul dealings from the powers that be. Whoever owned that strip sold it to someone else. And so it goes.

Julu Lu, if you didn't know, was kind of a diet Tongren Lu, which is itself the Coke Zero version of the old Maoming Lu. Cosmic ballet. And with the imminent closure of Tongren, Shanghai is becoming a tougher place for married, middle-aged brontosauruses looking to pay for sex. They're like an endangered species.

Who will be the last one I wonder? Can you imagine the last *****monger? The very last of the dying breed? Look at him there, balding, fattish, staggering down the barren and shuttered Tongren Lu strip, his pants ruffled as if he's just fresh off an 18-hour China Eastern flight doing quality control in Chengdu, a crushed 600rmb clenched tightly in his fist, and an combination of hope, yearning, and sexual expectation etched deep into his blotchy face.

He only has one night in China left! Massa-ge? Massa-ge? Will no one deign to fuck him? Will YOU? [/i]

In recent times, the best place to me is Club 9 which is next to the howard Johnson on xiang yang Lu and Huai Hai Lu. Decor very nice, mamasan not bad but the chicks areall 8 and above. tips are 600 for girls and also 600 for the meimei serving drinks.

[QUOTE=UnderPSI]Hello Boys,

Which KTVs in Shanghai are currently the hottest ones with the most and higest quality talents?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Eddie I agree with you here - personally I go to Angeles City in Phils - US$30 for an 18 to 20yo Filipino is much better value than the US$100+ that the burnt out old Filipino 'boilers' in TRL ask for.

W.h.o.r.e.s all around the world target 'tourists' or 'visitors' - nothing special here about TRL. Personally I DO NOT consider RMB800 to RMB1,000 all night as being too much for the Chinese or Mongolian of my choice. I often pay RMB2,000 all night for Russians in Manhattan - that is about the rate for girls out of bar settings like Manhattan, Judys, and the XTD bars Paulaner, Rendezvous, and even Zapatas.

As I mentioned in my original post - MANY MANY western guys are NOT INTERESTED in the filthy cockroach infested cum soaked surrounds of a BBS. Billy only takes girls back to his hotel and gets them showered up first before going to work. And many guys are not interested in waiting til 3 or 5 in the morning to try to get a freebie who hasn't picked up a job earlier in the night.

Many many of the groups of guys who frequent Manhattan or Judys consist of 1 or 2 guys who live / work in Shanghai who bring their visitors / guests / business visitors their for 1 reason - they know this is the type of location preferred by western visitors and they know they can pick-up reasonably safely there - ie western guys l;ike to enjoy a drink in a civilised locale and choose / negotiate with whichever providor they desire and at the time they desire.

TRL does indeed provide a great location for the needs of regular westerners or visitors to Shanghai - just because it does not suit your needs or particular requirements please don't condemn it.[/QUOTE]Billy,

So where will you go after they closed down TRL, you better start looking for a new area, I cannot believe that you been Shanghai for so long that you didn't find a better place than TRL, I like a mix of pro and nonpro sometime get lucky with a freebie, we have different taste if I want p4p I hit the sauna and bbs for the surething and go to disco and bar for hunting.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Julu Lu is the TOTAL RIP-OFF centre of Shanghai - yes the attempts to get raunchy there are nothing short of ways to 'drag' the customers in - then 'fleece' them.[/QUOTE]

You will be pleased then to hear that the Julu Lu bars have now been shut down as they have plans for redevelopment of the area.

I agree very much on TRL not just being for newbies. It is somewhere to have a beer and make a relaxed & often more informed decision on your lady of choice. Of course, there is a need to pay a premium but that is generally the market rule in most countries with China no exception.

And yes, I do live in Shanghai and occasionally entertain clients there - at least I take them there in the hope that someone else will entertain them!

Hi all,

Just return from a little afternoon mongering trip. First went to Bao Duo (well I think that's the name but I might have it wrong, well it's on luban lu / xietu lu). The place appears definitely dead: nobody waiting in the street entrance, and they even destroyed the elevator button fur the first floor. Sad, I have fond memories of the place, even if it was a little overpriced. Familiars will remember #21 last year, god was she good!

So afterwards I went to see if Xiaomuqiao lu was back to business, since I read here some hints that it might be. Well, it is! Not back to its former glory though, and more steps have been taken to hide the bedrooms, but it's here, and the talent is quite good.

Any suggestion of saunas in this area?

Cheers

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Billy......So where will you go after they closed down TRL, you better start looking for a new area, [/QUOTE]I really do not know mate - I guess I will follow the girls - they will find a new home.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]I cannot believe that you been Shanghai for so long that you didn't find a better place than TRL, [/QUOTE]Mate as I explained IMHO there is NO better place for Billy than Manhattan / Judys on TRL. Before that it was Maoming Lu - who will ever forget Bourbon Street when it was at it's peak? Zapatas might get a bigger look in - I really think Bar Rouge is a bit to yuppieish - who knows what might emerge if and when TRL does close.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]I like a mix of pro and nonpro sometime get lucky with a freebie, we have different taste if I want p4p I hit the sauna and bbs for the surething and go to disco and bar for hunting.[/QUOTE]I too love the chance of a freebie - but I have always found Shanghai difficult to pick up young girls in the clubs - much easier in the likes of Tianjin, Nanjing etc - if you are prepared to invest the time.

Time to me in Chinq is so precious - I am at the stage now I just DO NOT waste it on maybes - so it's 100% P4P now - and as I said earlier BBBS's and Saunas and KTV not my thing - I want available girls in a bar atmosephere where I control my activities.

Keep up the good work Eddie - keep reporting - you are an experienced informative contributor whom I respect but clearly we have different tastes.

Most of all - below are some of the reasons I will miss Manhattan/ Judys on TRL - each of these girls stayed ALL night at a cost of RMB800 to 1000.

Pudong shacks.

Sharing this excerpt of The Registry because these are likely to be shut down in the runup to the Expo, so give them some luvin' while you can. Remember a ho has gotta eat too!

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[QUOTE=Pinkus]Pudong shacks.

Sharing this excerpt of The Registry because these are likely to be shut down in the runup to the Expo, so give them some luvin' while you can. Remember a ho has gotta eat too!

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31.18487712 121.5699108
31.18055637 121.5576563
31.18472602 121.5483187
31.1848055 121.5483626
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31.18081407 121.5578988
31.18069444 121.5580431
31.18976345 121.5592461
31.18055935 121.5583247
31.18512397 121.5487638
31.1850255 121.5504755
31.1808138 121.5594119
31.18487467 121.5515039
31.18095649 121.5600591
31.18937988 121.5589518
31.18095812 121.5605821
31.18099826 121.5607305
31.18097928 121.5606047
31.18119113 121.5612649
31.18101291 121.5611391
31.18914958 121.5565666
31.18919244 121.5574398
31.18929199 121.5578589
31.18916721 121.558134
31.18921577 121.5586399
31.18927762 121.5590812
31.18953016 121.5591835
31.18934245 121.5592716
31.18939562 121.560076
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31.19034858 121.5692014
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31.18056017 121.5571246
31.18094184 121.5695166
31.18119385 121.5708472
31.18101915 121.5697713
31.1806212 121.5573269[/QUOTE]

Hillarious!!!!

Great First Posting, even if a little bit minimalistic!

Levitian

I was in Shanghai for four days two weeks ago. On the first day, after my meetings finished in mid-afternoon, I went to the Shanghai Hotel hoping for a wonderful soapy massage and subsequent foot/ear massage, but was disappointed to see that the sauna establishment on the second floor was still not open for business. Any brother who knows the latest development about this excellent joint please share some information.

I recalled some brother had reported on a certain JJ Massage on at 209 Urmuqi Road, which is also where Shanghai Hotel is located. I took a cab there, and it turned out to be not far away from the Shanghai Hotel. It’s actually a short walk from the Nanjing Road West intersection, and is located right behind a hotel. The sign on the building, however, read Golden 18 Spa, and later I found out that another brother had actually reported on this Golden 18 in the summer.

Anyway, I took the lift up to the fifth floor, and was led into the locker room right away. I asked if they had VIP rooms, and was told that it was an all suite establishment where the masseuse would give you a soapy bath – just my kind of place. I changed into the pajamas provided, and was led down the corridor to a small sitting room with two sofas and a TV set mounted on the wall. Overall, the place was well furbished and decorated. It was also very clean and maintained.

Soon, the manager came in to explain that full service was 898 yuan (or something like that) but that a 100 yuan membership card would give you a 100 yuan discount forever (including the first visit). I said okay, and after a short wait was led down the corridor through a “high-security” door to the fish bowl. The curtain was raised, and I saw through the one-way mirror about 15-20 girls standing by the walls inside. The average quality was okay, mostly 7s with may be a couple of 8s. A girl who stood near the door caught my attention because of her huge breasts. Her tits might not be the biggest that I’d ever seen, but there were certainly the most erect – it seemed like they were pointing out like missiles, not just hanging in there. I asked the manager if those were real, and he confirmed. I thought those tits were just made for soapy bath, and had no hesitation in getting her.

My girl (either number 61 or 66, I can’t remember) came out and took my arms to lead me down another corridor to our suite. She then went out to get her gear, and told me upon her return that another girl would join us in the shower room for free, as a compliment on the house. As we stripped each other, I was excited to find that her tits were not only real, but very firm and upright, and looked just like two perfect spheres that were almost the same size. She also had quite a beautiful face, fair skin and probably a bit over 20 years of age. I’d highly recommend her to any brother. The second girl then came in. She was introduced as a rookie who had just finished her training – and I was her first customer. She was tall and slender, with rather small tits, and slightly darker skin. She was also not pretty, really not my cup of tea.

The shower routine started with me seated on a hollow stool (i.e. with a hole in the middle) in the shower room. The two girls washed me up, rubbed my body with their boobs, and the tall girl also gave me a blowjob (without making me come) before concluding the routine. Upon completion, the second girl was to leave, but my masseuse talked me into having a threesome.

So we headed for the bed where she first blew me and then I fucked her, while the tall girl prepared the shower room for the soapy bath. After I shot my first load, we returned to the shower room for the fun. It was really a great experience to have two naked bodies slipping and sliding all over your body. Needless to say, the soapy bath was best done with my masseuse who’s got a pair of huge tits. Although the tall girl was lacking in natural assets, she made up for her shortcomings with enthusiasm and hard work. She was particularly keen on the ass rimming part, and for a rookie her performance quite good.

After the soapy bath we returned to the bed again, the three of us. There was more blowjobs and ass rimming, and after some great oral effort by the two girls simultaneously on my dick, my little brother was brought back to life. I then mounted the tall girl in missionary style, my favourite position, and enjoyed her tight **** thoroughly before I came again.

All in all, it was a great experience. Total damage was a bit more than 1,300 yuan.

[QUOTE=WooVictor]I was in Shanghai for four days two weeks ago. On the first day, after my meetings finished in mid-afternoon, I went to the Shanghai Hotel hoping for a wonderful soapy massage and subsequent foot/ear massage, but was disappointed to see that the sauna establishment on the second floor was still not open for business. Any brother who knows the latest development about this excellent joint please share some information.

My girl (either number 61 or 66, I can't remember) came out and took my arms to lead me down another corridor to our suite. She then went out to get her gear, and told me upon her return that another girl would join us in the shower room for free, as a compliment on the house. As we stripped each other, I was excited to find that her tits were not only real, but very firm and upright, and looked just like two perfect spheres that were almost the same size. She also had quite a beautiful face, fair skin and probably a bit over 20 years of age. I'd highly recommend her to any brother. The second girl then came in. She was introduced as a rookie who had just finished her training – and I was her first customer. She was tall and slender, with rather small tits, and slightly darker skin. She was also not pretty, really not my cup of tea.

All in all, it was a great experience. Total damage was a bit more than 1, 300 yuan.[/QUOTE]To Victor,

So the 2nd girl is not free that is a expensive experience 1300 rmb, most trainee that I was offer in Shanghai and Dongguan sauna just offer BBBJ and I just need to tip her 100 rmb extra, Shanghai hotel sauna have been closed for a long time and I heard it will move to a new hotel.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Davidoff Lite]In recent times, the best place to me is Club 9 which is next to the howard Johnson on xiang yang Lu and Huai Hai Lu. Decor very nice, mamasan not bad but the chicks areall 8 and above. tips are 600 for girls and also 600 for the meimei serving drinks.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info.

Do you know which kind of services are include in the two 600 tips?

Article about a bust in Henan province. Be careful out there.

[url]http://www.chinasmack.com/pictures/police-mistreat-prostitute-during-raid-netizen-reactions/[/url]

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]To Victor,

So the 2nd girl is not free that is a expensive experience 1300 rmb, most trainee that I was offer in Shanghai and Dongguan sauna just offer BBBJ and I just need to tip her 100 rmb extra, Shanghai hotel sauna have been closed for a long time and I heard it will move to a new hotel.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Eddie - WooVictor stated that the 2nd gal was free but that she was suppossed to have left after completing the shower routine. WV's gal though convinced him to let her stay for a 3some - and thus from that point onwards, she was NOT free.

Is this correct WV? And if so..... WHAT a bloody RACKET!!
IMHO, the sauna's really got balls to allow this practice to take place. Tease a guy with suppossedly free goods and then upselling him to actually start paying for what was free.

Guys - Is this common at shanghai saunas? I know that saunas in the South wouldn't dare to try pull off such a stunt and like Eddie outlines, just charge an extra RMB 100 if one takes a trainee on board.

SEAJ

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Eddie - WooVictor stated that the 2nd gal was free but that she was suppossed to have left after completing the shower routine. WV's gal though convinced him to let her stay for a 3some - and thus from that point onwards, she was NOT free.

Is this correct WV? And if so..... WHAT a bloody RACKET!!
IMHO, the sauna's really got balls to allow this practice to take place. Tease a guy with suppossedly free goods and then upselling him to actually start paying for what was free.

Guys - Is this common at shanghai saunas? I know that saunas in the South wouldn't dare to try pull off such a stunt and like Eddie outlines, just charge an extra RMB 100 if one takes a trainee on board.

SEAJ[/QUOTE]Standard routine in this palce, has been reported here before. They openly inform on the policy, so not really a scam. IMHO this is regarding gals attitude anyhow one of the worst Sauna choices in Shanghai, but as said IMHO..

FA

[QUOTE=Troc]Article about a bust in Henan province. Be careful out there.

[url]http://www.chinasmack.com/pictures/police-mistreat-prostitute-during-raid-netizen-reactions/[/url][/QUOTE]Luckily nobody goes to this boring city called Zhengyhou anyhow, just one question why exactely is this in the Beijing thread?

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]I really do not know mate - I guess I will follow the girls - they will find a new home.

Mate as I explained IMHO there is NO better place for Billy than Manhattan / Judys on TRL. Before that it was Maoming Lu - who will ever forget Bourbon Street when it was at it's peak? Zapatas might get a bigger look in - I really think Bar Rouge is a bit to yuppieish - who knows what might emerge if and when TRL does close.

I too love the chance of a freebie - but I have always found Shanghai difficult to pick up young girls in the clubs - much easier in the likes of Tianjin, Nanjing etc - if you are prepared to invest the time.

Time to me in Chinq is so precious - I am at the stage now I just DO NOT waste it on maybes - so it's 100% P4P now - and as I said earlier BBBS's and Saunas and KTV not my thing - I want available girls in a bar atmosephere where I control my activities.

Keep up the good work Eddie - keep reporting - you are an experienced informative contributor whom I respect but clearly we have different tastes.

Most of all - below are some of the reasons I will miss Manhattan/ Judys on TRL - each of these girls stayed ALL night at a cost of RMB800 to 1000.[/QUOTE]I paid my first visit there last night, if it is to be closed at least one should have tried. Very similar to e. G. The infamous Beijing pickup points Billy had shown me and of course like Sanlitun. Only found Judys, no idea where Manhattan, Zapata and Malones are. Lots of girls, maybe 20 to 25 but most on offer indeed high mileage uglies I would never have a second look at, best looking was the pool dancer and a nice Filipana who became my catch of the night or vice versa. Alexa, nice face, nice initial attitude, young and I wanted a difference after some recent bad experiences with Shanghainese MP girls. The prices in the bar are ok, around 40 per drink and they are not overpushy. You must approach the girls not vice versa. Easy going, kissing, checking out the merchandise and a quick let us go. No upfront negotiation. Later in the Hotel she asked for 1000 LT because her manager, another Phil girl there called Christina demanded all that for herself, of course. She performed very well, good passsionate service, only had an issue with showering, wtf is it me or what but overall much more passionate than most Chinese gals I know so it was a worthwhile 3 hours multipop session with all offered except anal. Of course she had to leave at 3 because her manager asked her. Well I had what I needed and the talk became annoying on how bad and costly life is.

Nice contrast to BBS and Saunas, certainly better than an anonymous in/call but a non repeat for me because a bit weird girl, maybe a Phil gene, I do not know.

Oh and business was slow and the taxis outside are no scam

FA

PS: Billy I miss you for these trips

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The MPs with the sexy girls have been one of my primary sources so far, you can sometimes get a relation and FS service outside. But recently I have observed this becomes increasingly difficult and expensive. Most places in Pudong now charge 200 per hour for oil massages and always try to upsell. more time, touch tits, HJ, breastJ, foot job all extra, extra and go out more nad more difficult and expensive. The last one I had found 800 not worth to consider and was embarrassed by the 100 tip for the HJ.

Compared to even Beijing and the FS possibilities in the BBS for say 200 to 400 and even the Saunas (afternoon rate 550) IMHO not at all attractive anymore...

Your observations, opinions?

FA

[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]Hey everyone,

Saunas are still a little dangerous but if you go to 5 star hotels no risk at all. I have excellent hint with a great girl:

24, GFE, horny like hell, and one of best BJ in shanghai... beautiful body and OK face.
she is number 892 (careful, number has to be given shere you change clothes, not at reception)

tel of place: 021-58895656
address: 889 pudong YangGao nan road
it is a hotel (sauna inside)
in Chinese:
浦东杨高南路889号
东锦?索非特大酒店裙楼
梦龙水宫桑拿

Have fun and tell me your feedback!

In return I expect more contribution for our community, as far as place and girls rating + numbers

SC[/QUOTE]Just as a further hint, forget about the street numbers as shown on the street signs because then you will stand in front of a construction site and look as stupid as me. It is on the East side of the road and there is only one Hotel, a big hotel (it seems the Hotel name shall remain undisclosed) and what you look for is right hand around the Hotel on the backside, no signs, if you do not know it is there you will not find it. Could not sample this time, prices, experiences?

FA

Or just call them and let them say the driver go where.

Up and running per routine. Several recent sessions there--same as prior postings from others. Took me a while to find one with more than mechanical/scripted attitude but was then time to go so only 1 repeat. Enjoyed the sauna/pool/food during downtime. PM any questions.

Several bars are closing by Nov 15, which may be the cut off date for all of them for all I know. But for sure by the end of Nov.

Any members who'd like to share info on where the girls land and new watering holes feel free to PM me. I am NOT going to post this info publicly, and suggest none of us do - at least not until the Expo is done. Screw the tourists - it's residents and contributing members for ourselves now.

-B-

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso]Just as a further hint, forget about the street numbers as shown on the street signs because then you will stand in front of a construction site and look as stupid as me. It is on the East side of the road and there is only one Hotel, a big hotel (it seems the Hotel name shall remain undisclosed) and what you look for is right hand around the Hotel on the backside, no signs, if you do not know it is there you will not find it. Could not sample this time, prices, experiences?

FA

Or just call them and let them say the driver go where.[/QUOTE]

The hotel in question is the Sofitel in Pudong.

Cheers

Question about Golden 18:

What time does it OPEN? I'm making my first visit there this weekend and I'd like to go when the girls are fresh and not worn out from providing services all day.

And in your experiences, when is the best time to go? Best selection, best service, etc?

Decisions, decisions.

Monday afternoon in Pudong and decided to take Willy out for a treat. I know the "early bird special" at nearby Sacrosa is hard to beat for price. But I hadn't been to 999 during daytime, plus, it'd been a while since I had a soapie. So off to 999 I went. Line 4 to Shanghai Stadium. Exit 3. Walk straight ahead for about 200 meters. Ah. Home again.

Arrived around 4:30 and was surprisingly busy. Waited with beer in VIP lounge chair with about 7 other waiting customers for 25 minutes.

GREAT selection of girls. The papasan offered me two girls. So I'm sure they are room-limited & trying to get the girls employed. Picked #833 cutie, nice petite body, smiling pretty face. An easy 9/10 overall.

Session was perfect. Undress, soapie, catbath, BBBJ, DATY, multiple positions, lots of laughs & moaning, followed by final washup, smiles, and kiss goodbye. Have to admit. Of all the places I've gone, the quality, service, and visual/body sensation of the soapie/999 is superb. To me, pacing is the key to enjoying the full 80-minute session while cooperating with the girl. Its gotten better with every visit.

Ganbei!

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Question about Golden 18:

What time does it OPEN? I'm making my first visit there this weekend and I'd like to go when the girls are fresh and not worn out from providing services all day.

And in your experiences, when is the best time to go? Best selection.

[QUOTE=Tyson]Question about Golden 18:

What time does it OPEN? I'm making my first visit there this weekend and I'd like to go when the girls are fresh and not worn out from providing services all day.

And in your experiences, when is the best time to go? Best selection, best service, etc?[/QUOTE]Hours are 1 pm to 2 am.

[QUOTE=Smorb 27]Julu Lu is no longer, the entire street has been torn down, all bars are closed. Here's a piece from a local columnist a few weeks ago when it shut down:

[i]Julu Lu has been closed, a loss I liken to losing my saved game in The Legend of Zelda. It's kind of a pain in the ass but I'll get over it. The word on the street is that it was a business deal, plain and simple. No foul dealings from the powers that be. Whoever owned that strip sold it to someone else. And so it goes.

Julu Lu, if you didn't know, was kind of a diet Tongren Lu, which is itself the Coke Zero version of the old Maoming Lu. Cosmic ballet. And with the imminent closure of Tongren, Shanghai is becoming a tougher place for married, middle-aged brontosauruses looking to pay for sex. They're like an endangered species.

Who will be the last one I wonder? Can you imagine the last *****monger? The very last of the dying breed? Look at him there, balding, fattish, staggering down the barren and shuttered Tongren Lu strip, his pants ruffled as if he's just fresh off an 18-hour China Eastern flight doing quality control in Chengdu, a crushed 600rmb clenched tightly in his fist, and an combination of hope, yearning, and sexual expectation etched deep into his blotchy face.

He only has one night in China left! Massa-ge? Massa-ge? Will no one deign to fuck him? Will YOU? [/i][/QUOTE]Lived in Shanghai from 2001 to 2005... just thought would read the Shanghai board as bored at work.

Was lucky enough to do lots of playing in the old MaoMing Lu when first in Shanghai. Certainly did quite a bit in Julu and not so much in TRL. By then I had found where the freebies were hiding and had no probs anymore.

There was a road at 90 degrees to TRL bars.. cant remember its name but remember gettting my first in-car BJ on that road a good few years ago. Yeah I had a black Buick like everyone else lol.

Oh well, sad to read about the loss of some good and well remembered drinking places. Presumably the BBS have gone the same way.

Under a differrent handle I still have 300 posts on my BBS adventures in Shanghai. Good times.

So I admit I'm pretty clueless about the TRL thing. I have been there on several occasions at various times but the bars that I walk into are like 3 guy to 1 girl ratio. And knowing that some girls are legit servers that work there I didn't know whether it was appropriate to approach any of them. Generally I leave without having done much, since the WGs are not that obvious and I was never approached by any of them. I could hardly get to the bar and order drinks. Anyone with experience want to shed some light on how to get some girl's attention in the TRL bars?

[QUOTE=Andy Russett]Hours are 1 pm to 2 am.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Do you think they put out inventory based on traffic? Like, on a weekday at 2PM, would they have the weaker girls on rotation and on a weekend evening, they make sure to have the best of the best available? Do you think they actually use any business strategy?

Have you guys ever wondered that about these places? I'll have a field report after the weekend.

First time back in Shanghai since the news that Tongren is closing. I hadn't been back to Manhattan since I sent the lastest little "Filly" back to Angeles, since I knew the minute I walked in the door my cell would start ringing with her wanting to know why I was in the club. Got to love the coconut telegraph.
I wanted to have one more night in tongren before this era of fun ended, so off to Malones to start the evening. I talked for some time with one of the managers and he said they were not going to be effected by the shut down, in fact he gave me an invite to their birthday party next week. About 11pm some of the local talent walked in and one of them recognized me.....I hate that when it happens. A "cougar" of a Chinese lady struck up a conversation which was a little different and the longer it went on the more I realized she was trying to get me to take her home, or at least out for the rest of the evening. I politely extricated myself and made my way to Manhattan. It was almost midnight and I was surprised by the lack of ladies, or at least pretty ones. I know it was Monday night, and I didn't see one of the "regulars" I had come to know and love 3 months ago. Even my favorite waitress had gone back home....damn! I did talk a bit with one of the waitresses and she told me that they will close at the end of the month, and some of the clubs will close earlier. I noticed "Blue Frog" was already shut as well as Red Beat.
She did tell me to give her my cell number and she would sms me the new location when they knew for sure where it would be. Either they are playing it close to the vest or really don't know for sure, I still thought it was a nice touch, we will see if she follows thru.
Not much on the Filipina side of the house, but a few really cute Viet's. I decided to check out Judy's one last time and was surprised that they had a better Filipina selection than Manhattan. One of the girls I saw at Malones came in and struck up a conversation. She was cute, but very experienced and I wasn't really tempted. She did give me the information on a couple of new places to try in HK and Macau, which was nice of her. I went to the bathroom and her "buddy" almost followed me into the stall, and she said I know you are talking to my friend, but I think you should take me home....it will be worth your while!! So much for looking out for your "friends"....lol
Went back to Manhattan, and struck up a chat with a really cute little Viet gal, not the prettiest, but had a great butt and legs and a sweet disposition.
Back we go to the hotel, and she lived up to her promise, a real GFE, which I really like that finished with her bent over a chair in front of the mirror, who doesn't like a girlfriend in that position!! She asked me if I wanted her to stay and I said it was up to her. Off to take a shower she goes, then promptly crawls into bed. She asked for a good night kiss and said to kiss her in the morning if I needed to leave.
She woke up about 1 pm and off to the shower she goes, comes back and gets me started, big "fur ball" in the bed. She almost won the race, but I managed to "finish" just ahead of her....Back into the shower, ask for a bottle of water, kisses me goodbye and out the door. I ask myself, "what's missing", about two seconds later phone rings and she asks me if she can come back to the room, I say sure. We both had forgotten about the "donation", which I gladly gave her. If I get back to town before the end of the month she is a repeat for sure.
There is a funny sidebar, she kind of gave me the "I am new to this, and it is my first time in Shanghai, my friend tell me to come." line, she said she worked for short time in HK, but didn't like it....
Well she asked last night if she could use my laptop to check her email,and she did. She forgot to sign out, so when I opened up the browser her email opened as well. I really tried not to read any, but was weak, especially when there were about 30 from the same person. You guessed it, she has some guy she met in HK on the hook and he is sending her money, and is so glad she quit working in the bars......he thinks she is in Ho Chi Min
I know I shouldn't laugh at the misfortunes of others, but I couldn't help myself. I guess at some point we have all been in a similar position.
So it looks like the end of an era, I am sure there will be another location with similar offerings in the near future. I may have to try Zapatas next time of Bar Rouge....just to see what they are like.
Stay horny my friends!

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder] We both had forgotten about the "donation", which I gladly gave her. If I get back to town before the end of the month she is a repeat for sure.[/QUOTE]Good report SR, but curious on how much the donation was?

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso]Only found Judys, no idea where Manhattan, Zapata and Malones are. [/QUOTE]Malones is 500mtrs away mate – go outside Manhattan – turn right and walk 500 mtrs – its across the street on your left. Zapatas is on Hangshan Lu – 10 minute taxi ride away. [QUOTE=FernandoAlonso]best looking was the pool dancer and a nice Filipana who became my catch of the night or vice versa. Alexa, nice face, nice initial attitude, young and I wanted a difference after some recent bad experiences with Shanghainese MP girls. The prices in the bar are ok, around 40 per drink and they are not overpushy. You must approach the girls not vice versa. Easy going, kissing, checking out the merchandise and a quick let us go. No upfront negotiation. Later in the Hotel she asked for 1000 LT because her manager, another Phil girl there called Christina demanded all that for herself, of course. She performed very well, good passsionate service, only had an issue with showering, wtf is it me or what but overall much more passionate than most Chinese gals I know so it was a worthwhile 3 hours multipop session with all offered except anal. [/QUOTE] Welcome to the world of Filipino who.res. They as a general rule are fabulous gentle total GFE ladies – unbeatable IMHO if you want a GFE – BUT – Billy never partakes in Shanghai with Flippers.

I go to Angeles City in Phils itself – US$30 to 50 for 18 to 20 something gorgeous hard bodied young girls with no babies – compared to the average fuglie 28 to 35yo Flipper in Sh who has a tribe of kids back in Phils [QUOTE=FernandoAlonso]Nice contrast to BBS and Saunas, certainly better than an anonymous in/call [/QUOTE]Aint that the truth – and I bet she did not once complin about the size of your tackle as almos every Chinese who.re will
[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso]PS: Billy I miss you for these trips[/QUOTE]I miss you too mate – I miss all my Chinese based buddies. I will be in Shanghai Dec 10 or so and in Beijing between Xmas and New Year - I think - we can hook up then - we need to talk about you joining me for a couple of days in Angeles City in Phils.

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]First time back in Shanghai since the news that Tongren is closing. ![/QUOTE]Terrible news my friend but just like when Maoming Lu closed - and TongRen Lu started - another - or several more - oasis'ssss wil open for sure. [QUOTE=Sky Ryder]There is a funny sidebar....... She forgot to sign out, so when I opened up the browser her email opened as well. I really tried not to read any, but was weak, especially when there were about 30 from the same person. You guessed it, she has some guy she met in HK on the hook and he is sending her money, and is so glad she quit working in the bars......he thinks she is in Ho Chi Min......I know I shouldn't laugh at the misfortunes of others, but I couldn't help myself. [/QUOTE]YES you should laugh - YES we have all been guilty - but shit it is still funny isn't it - been there - seen that - you cannot help but laugh.
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]So it looks like the end of an era, I am sure there will be another location with similar offerings in the near future. I may have to try Zapatas next time of Bar Rouge....just to see what they are like.[/QUOTE]By all means try - they are much bigger - much less personal - but one or both may well becme our 'headquarters' in the future so you might as well become familiarised.

Made a recent visit to G18. First stopped by around noon, but realized it was too early. Did some shopping nearby and then returned around 2pm to find a doorman waiting by. Grabbed some cash at the very conveniently located ATM at the bank next to G18, and headed upstairs. Nice friendly locker attendant remembered me from before. Quickly undressed, got into the required pajamas, and had a short wait before being led to the fishbowl. Around 10 girls, ranging from 7 to 9. I liked the cute face on number 90. She was taller than average and seemed to have a nice body as well. As I was being led away from the fishbowl by number 90, number 56 flashed me a cute smile and did a 'bang bang' at me with her fingers. Damn! Did I just choose the wrong girl? 56 was also cute, although not as beautiful as 90. However, a playful persona indicates a likelihood of a fun time! Oh well... maybe next time I pick her.

90 leads me to a room w/ round bed and mirrored ceiling. Similar to rooms I'd been in previously, so I know what to expect. Gotta say I'm impressed with how clean they keep the place. Also, it's never too cold or too hot. Anyways, she steps out to grab her kit, and I take the opportunity to snap a few room photos w/ my camera phone. Lighting sucks, as you can see by the quality of the photos.

She returns shortly, and undresses me and herself. Her body is as nice as I had hoped... flat stomach, really firm b cups, and a rarity for Chinese girls... an honest to God bubble butt with muscle tone! As a self professed a$$ man, I am in heaven! Her actions are not cold, but not especially warm. While she sets up the inflatable bed for the soapy, I sneak a quick photo of her. Again, crap quality, but it's dark and I don't wanna get caught taking pics, as I'm sure the girls aren't cool with it. As we start getting showered, another girl walks in, and guess what? it's number 56! The management doesn't miss a beat, and obviously noticed our little flirt at the fish bowl, and figured they could upsell me. Well, at this point, I'll take the free extra naked soapy girl to shower with, and figure out later if she's as playful as I had hoped.

56's body isn't quite as model-esque as 90, but she's still sexy as hell. Her body is softer... more typically Chinese... but she also has a cute bum, and as far as I remember, none of those sit bone bruises that so many Chinese girls have because of lack of any muscle density in the posterior region. Both girls use their naughty bits to clean me all over. I take every opportunity to grope their breasts and rub their clits. Already, I can tell that 90 accepts it, but 56 really enjoys it. She sees and frequently grabs my 19cm rock hard erection, and has a hungry look in her eyes. By the time she asks me if I want her to stay in the room, I already know I want her more than my initial choice.

Once we're toweled off, we get into bed. I don't let them waste time with the ice cube or water sucking thing. They lay me down, and 56 starts sucking me, while I ask 90 to sit on my face. I'm giving it to 90 but good, and I can tell she's not faking her pleasure. Before long, though, 56 gets tired of sucking me and wants me inside her. I'm all too happy to oblige! Even with a condom on, I can feel how tight, warm, and soft she is inside. Although we don't kiss, I can tell that we have a connection. The next time, I will make sure to get her and her alone so that she's free to feel more intimate. In any case, for the next 90 minutes, I keep going back and forth between the two of these gorgeous ladies. We alternate who's on top, and front to back. 56 rides like a champ! Every time she nears orgasm, she asks me to bang her faster and harder! I love this girl! 90 is not a bad lay either, but I f@ck her more like a ho and not like a gf. 90's legs are stiff when I spread them wide, whereas 56 just opens herself up and lets me stretch her.

In the end, as I am really running out of time, I still haven't cum and I have no choice but to let the ladies handle me hands on. Being my fave, I ask 56 to sit on my face while 90 beats me off. We're like this for what seems like a solid 15 minutes of non stop licking and jerking. 90 is getting tired, and she switches hands often. She is a trooper, though, and doesn't whine about it. 56 has probably had a dozen orgasms, and she keeps saying she can't take anymore of my clit licking... which only makes me grab her thighs harder and pull her hips down onto my lips. I can't get enough of her perfect pu$$y! I explode hard and splatter 56's back and a$$. 90 doesn't stop when I explode, so I'm just dying from the sensory overload now! Wow! What a fun time!

So, about 2 hours of fun time (I'm sure I ran over the 90 min clock) with two lovely ladies. 56 is adorable with the eye contact when we shower. They towel me off and then finish showering themselves. As they are getting dressed, I manage to sneak in a couple more cam phone pics. How I wish cam phones had night vision! After we're showered, I bid 56 adieu and 90 walks me out to the lockers. The locker guy and I exchange small talk, and I make sure to tip him 10rmb. It's not much, but the guy's honestly friendly. He brings me out to the counter to pay. I didn't bring my frequent flyer card, but the locker guy firmly states that I'm a regular customer. The counter gal makes a phone call, and uses the house's membership number to make sure I pay the VIP price. I'm crap with numbers so I can't recall the exact price, but I think it was around 1350 or so for the two gals. Not cheap, but in my opinion, well worth it! G18 has not let me down yet. Next time, I will be sure to get 56 on her own.

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[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Terrible news my friend but just like when Maoming Lu closed. And TongRen Lu started. Another. Or several more. Oasis'ssss wil open for sure. YES you should laugh. YES we have all been guilty. But shit it is still funny isn't it. Been there. Seen that. You cannot help but laugh.

By all means try. They are much bigger. Much less personal. But one or both may well becme our 'headquarters' in the future so you might as well become familiarised.[/QUOTE]Billy,

You been shooting fish in the bucket too long is time to venture out to the big ocean, start looking for new hunting ground be a little adventure and make a report if you find it.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Tasss]Good report SR, but curious on how much the donation was?[/QUOTE]


I gave her the equivalent of 1100 RMB which included the taxi back to her place. I suspect the taxi was about 100 RMB, because I am staying way out on the way to the airport. She didn't ask before the session about money and when I asked in the club before we left she said she didn't want to talk about it as it wasn't that important to her.....yeah right....
Anyway she also left her earrings in the room, and I sent her an sms about midnight to tell her and I enjoyed our time together. About two hours later I get a text thanking me for saving the earrings and telling me that she liked me, and that is was good she liked me because she would never go out with someone for the "little money" I gave her.
I guess it turns out to be good to be likeable, I don't think I have ever paid more than 1000 rmb for a session and I tend to go for LT. A couple of times I have told the girl to leave after agreeing to LT, but paid her the 1000 anyway since it was my choice to terminate early.
Last night most of the girls were starting at 1500 and up for LT with 2000 being the average for the Viet's and Thai's, but they tend to be higher priced than the Filipina's IME.
I have yet to find one that was so much better I couldn't walk away and have just as much fun with "plan B". It is amazing how sometimes they would rather go home with nothing than accept that the market that night will not support a higher fare, of course I am sure they figure the next guy in the door will pay the asking price, because I suspects it happens more than we think.

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Terrible news my friend but just like when Maoming Lu closed. And TongRen Lu started. Another. Or several more. Oasis'ssss wil open for sure. YES you should laugh. YES we have all been guilty. But shit it is still funny isn't it. Been there. Seen that. You cannot help but laugh.

By all means try. They are much bigger. Much less personal. But one or both may well becme our 'headquarters' in the future so you might as well become familiarised.[/QUOTE]OK, you guys are starting to depress me. First Maoming Lu. God I loved that street! And now Tongren Lu? Didn't hear anything about it. Why?

What the hell?

Look's like Zappata's Friday night.

Thanks for kepping me up on current events. Bad as it is.

Jake277

On Zhapu Lu just off Tiantong Lu there are two locations. One on the left and another on the right. If you walk past them and pause one of the girls will motion you in with her finger. Once inside they will ask if you want a massage. If you indicate yes, they will lead you up the stairs. The massage starts out with her sitting beside you. Less than five minutes goes by and she has her hand in your crotch to see what's happening. Prices start at 200 HJ, 300 BJ, 500 FS. You can get FS for 300 but that's no eating her out or sucking her tits. And if your dick touches her pussy it's FS, even if you don't finish in her pussy. There are other shops in the area where FS is available. If the shop has stairs you can get a HJ for 150. The girls are attractive -- young and in business. I'm sure locals would get a better price. Here's a good map of Shanghai.

[url]http://www.hainew.com/[/url]

Does anyone happen to know of any hotels that charge hourly? Hopefully in the Xuhui and Changning districts? I know some cheap hotels but I'm not sure about the quality, like the 169 chain and such.

Also about the girls you meet at Zapatas, Malones, etc. Do they approach you or you just kinda talk it up with them and see their prices? How would you tell if they're a WG or just some chick looking for sex?

[QUOTE=Tasss]Does anyone happen to know of any hotels that charge hourly? Hopefully in the Xuhui and Changning districts? I know some cheap hotels but I'm not sure about the quality, like the 169 chain and such.

Also about the girls you meet at Zapatas, Malones, etc. Do they approach you or you just kinda talk it up with them and see their prices? How would you tell if they're a WG or just some chick looking for sex?[/QUOTE]It's all about eye contact Waldeck. Best spot in Zapatas is near the door of the bar. Not the outside gate, but just inside. The WGs tend to hang to the left and solid eye contact and you will know it is easy to approach. Keep in mind that Zapata's has a huge international crowd, and also seems that the more professional business people of Shanghai will hang out there with their girlfirends. Ie. NOT WG's, so be careful. Down the street is a number of clubs the one on the same side as Zapata's witht the patio, just past Starbucks but on opposite side, used to be called "Bourbon Street". Great live Fillipino band, and WG's that are Phillipinio and Chinese. You will literally FEEL the eye contact.

Past few years I have found Zapata's less and less of score spot. Too many expat's too few locals, and the WG's that are there, tend to be the really independent freelancers. The worst, whiny one's that get to your room and almost cry that they only have one or two noghts to get good work from the bar (ie. You and me) and they need just " a little more". Uggggh.

Shanghai for me is now Saunas and KTV's. I always troll Zapata's and a few other bars, but lately (am I getting older and uglier? ) less luck. Current fave is to zip into small KTV. Ask for mommy to give you a lineup. Maybe even get KTV room though not always necessary, can pay mommy a 100 rmb "fine" (but KTV room would cost same as night as Zapatas. 40rmb per drink. I end up at 600 either way.)

Good luck and do post. Park 97 is another one that is less expats and another, albeit inconsistent spot for freebies and or freelancers.

I am keen to explore this scene more and more (bars, etc) and there is less and less posts on Shanghai board, so do keep the findings coming.

Search my name for other bars such as Rojam, Babyface etc, that seem to serve a mostly Chinese, and younger, hipper, richer clientele, who seem not to need our $$$.

D23

Being first time, prefer to play safe by finding special service in a 4 or star hotel. What are some options in Shanghai? I only to manage to see one hotel mentioned few pages earlier.

Thanks

Pudong opposite the Raddison is the Bamboo massage. Fantastic massage, no sign/offer of anything else, not that I was looking to hard. 125 for 90mins. Not what we're all looking for here but nice experience all the same!

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Malones is 500mtrs away mate – go outside Manhattan – turn right and walk 500 mtrs – its across the street on your left. Zapatas is on Hangshan Lu – 10 minute taxi ride away. Welcome to the world of Filipino who.res. They as a general rule are fabulous gentle total GFE ladies – unbeatable IMHO if you want a GFE – BUT – Billy never partakes in Shanghai with Flippers.

I go to Angeles City in Phils itself – US$30 to 50 for 18 to 20 something gorgeous hard bodied young girls with no babies – compared to the average fuglie 28 to 35yo Flipper in Sh who has a tribe of kids back in Phils Aint that the truth – and I bet she did not once complin about the size of your tackle as almos every Chinese who.re will
I miss you too mate – I miss all my Chinese based buddies. I will be in Shanghai Dec 10 or so and in Beijing between Xmas and New Year - I think - we can hook up then - we need to talk about you joining me for a couple of days in Angeles City in Phils.[/QUOTE]HAO BA!!

I could not resist try one and she was not older than 25 and loved to f***

I take the offer for Phil if I can get away here!!!

FA

[QUOTE=Tasss]Does anyone happen to know of any hotels that charge hourly? Hopefully in the Xuhui and Changning districts? I know some cheap hotels but I'm not sure about the quality, like the 169 chain and such.

Also about the girls you meet at Zapatas, Malones, etc. Do they approach you or you just kinda talk it up with them and see their prices? How would you tell if they're a WG or just some chick looking for sex?[/QUOTE]

Tass - the working girls in Zapata's and Malone's are usually quite obvious. They are sitting at the bar or working the crowd. If you make eye contact and they smile back, go over and talk to them. If she is alone, she is definitely a WG. If she is with a friend or two, then talk for a few minutes. Usually they will ask where are you staying, are you in Shanghai for long and then they will usually ask you if you want to leave.

There are girls at these places who are there just to have fun and are not working. They are usually with a group of guys and will not be smiling back at you if you make eye contact. However, these girls are in the minority especially as the night wears on.

This has been my experience. It is a good way to meet a WG as you can talk for awhile, get to know each other a little and then decide if you want to head back to your hotel with her.

AL

Because I met a nice freebie last time I was in Shanghai i did not visit the sauna's and WG bars anymore. Why pay if you can get it for free.

But because a colleague was visiting and I heard TRL would be closing down soon we headed down there Sunday night. Most places were deserted. We walked around for a little while and finally went inside the last bar (near Yan An elevated highway). My friend soon had three girls around his neck and two were keeping me company until I told them i would only buy one a drink. One of them left and we played a few games. After buying each girl 3 drinks and only having 2 beers ourselves we asked for the bill. It was 1480 RMB!

The 4 beers were only 40 each but it turned out the girls drinks were 110 each. The showed me the menu although I am sure it was a different one from the initial we saw. A lesson to learn from this: check the prices of the lady drinks before you order them.

The way back in the taxi we had a good laugh as I told him I managed not to get scammed during 4 visits but during the first time out with him it did happen.

By the way the girl told me the bar would stay open for another 3 month, but I told her I would not be back.

Happy drinking

[QUOTE=Tasss]Does anyone .............chick looking for sex?[/QUOTE]
First, please allow me to apologize and to re-assure you that I would not blame you if you do refuse to dignify my querie with a reply.

But I really do need to know how you came up with your handle?

I mean, I always say I need to TASSSS before anything else in the morning - Take A Shit, Shower, Shave and Smoke.

Is this how you come up with your handle?.

Thanks

SEAJ

[QUOTE=Tasss]

Also about the girls you meet at Zapatas, Malones, etc. Do they approach you or you just kinda talk it up with them and see their prices? How would you tell if they're a WG or just some chick looking for sex?[/QUOTE]

Tasss

It is easy to pick up in Zapatas. As stated in the thread the girls on their own on the left of the main door to the dance floor/ bar. Often they will have outside coats on or over their arm.

First time there (just a year ago) I picked up within 10 mins - and I am 66 !! Mongolian girl (Linda) very enthusiastic in the sack but the smallest tits I have seen for ages. Approach was to try to talk (this one had a bit of English) to say "too noisy to talk here you like to come to my room". After that she knows she is on a winner and you are off. I stayed at the Regal East Asia which is actually within walking distance of Zapatas. I went to Zapatas almost every other night with a pick up on each - and in between went to Shanghai Hotel sauna or similar.

Galinsoga

Shanghaisimon,

Excellent report. Thanks for posting it. Two quick questions. Any sign of LE, and where is it? I'll be in Xujiahui next week and I'd like to check it out. I did a quick search of the forum but missed finding directions.

TIA,

Huck

[QUOTE=Hong Golden]Being first time, prefer to play safe by finding special service in a 4 or star hotel. What are some options in Shanghai? I only to manage to see one hotel mentioned few pages earlier.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

This question is better asked in the Shanghai Hotels thread.

See my reply (today) there.

Hope that this helps.

P13

[QUOTE=Tasss]Does anyone happen to know of any hotels that charge hourly? Hopefully in the Xuhui and Changning districts? I know some cheap hotels but I'm not sure about the quality, like the 169 chain and such.

Also about the girls you meet at Zapatas, Malones, etc. Do they approach you or you just kinda talk it up with them and see their prices? How would you tell if they're a WG or just some chick looking for sex?[/QUOTE]Tasss,

The girl at Zapata don't approach you not like TRL bar, there are a good mix of pro and non pro many office lady do come here for drinks and dinner after work with friend so becareful who you ask. I never go there before 11pm most pro show up late and I once pick up a freebie flipper that work in Shanghai one of best GFE I ever have.

Fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=Douglas23]It's all about eye contact ...

D23[/QUOTE][QUOTE=AsianLover]Tass - the working girls in Zapata's and Malone's are usually quite obvious.

AL[/QUOTE]Thank you both for the great advice. I've actually walked by Malones several times and at least from the outside, it doesn't look like a shady place at all. So for a non-regular one could hardly expect WGs there.

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]First, please allow me to apologize and to re-assure you that I would not blame you if you do refuse to dignify my querie with a reply.

But I really do need to know how you came up with your handle?

I mean, I always say I need to TASSSS before anything else in the morning - Take A Shit, Shower, Shave and Smoke.

Is this how you come up with your handle?.

Thanks

SEAJ[/QUOTE]It was easy, I typed Tas and then keep holding down S til I felt like stopping.

[QUOTE=Tasss]Thank you both for the great advice. I've actually walked by Malones several times and at least from the outside, it doesn't look like a shady place at all. So for a non-regular one could hardly expect WGs there.[/QUOTE]

Yes, Malone's was more of a 'normal' establishment prior to the mob from Ju lu lu moving over - and now it seems they'll be moving on again soon....

[QUOTE=Tasss]It was easy, I typed Tas and then keep holding down S til I felt like stopping.[/QUOTE]
ROFLMAO!!!

I gotta stop reading more into things than what it actually is!!

Look forward to some more of your postings!

Ciao
SEAJ

[QUOTE=Huckleberryfinn]Shanghaisimon,

Excellent report. Thanks for posting it. Two quick questions. Any sign of LE, and where is it? I'll be in Xujiahui next week and I'd like to check it out. I did a quick search of the forum but missed finding directions.

TIA,

Huck[/QUOTE]G18 is aka Golden 18, and is on Wulumuqi Lu, north of Nanjing Xi Lu (JingAn district, just west of JingAn temple). The entrance to G18 is right next to an Agricultural Bank. The sign is covered over now by some canvas tarp to keep it looking discreet. When it is open, you will see someone sitting or standing near the entrance, who is the watchdog and keeper of the elevator key. No signs of LE when I was there. Be cautious anyways. If your gut tells you something doesn't feel right, don't risk it.

Have fun!

By chance I was watching the news from a Shanghai station. It was mentioned that the LE had a "joint task force meeting" where big shots brainstormed ideas to sort out the illegal entertainment issue (aka sauna and particularly KTV). I was wondering if you have seen a re-new effort to "cleanse the street". For those who have connections, have you heard talks of another LE campaign to raid "entertainment venues"?

[QUOTE=ShanghaiSimon]G18 is aka Golden 18, and is on Wulumuqi Lu, north of Nanjing Xi Lu (JingAn district, just west of JingAn temple). The entrance to G18 is right next to an Agricultural Bank. The sign is covered over now by some canvas tarp to keep it looking discreet. When it is open, you will see someone sitting or standing near the entrance, who is the watchdog and keeper of the elevator key. No signs of LE when I was there. Be cautious anyways. If your gut tells you something doesn't feel right, don't risk it.

Have fun![/QUOTE]Guys,

Do not fool yourself,there is no sign of LE, if you see them it is too late, they raid plaincloth, mostly as customers, look at the picture from the Henan raid article!

[QUOTE=Mike921]Yes, Malone's was more of a 'normal' establishment prior to the mob from Ju lu lu moving over. And now it seems they'll be moving on again soon.[/QUOTE]You can find all types of girls there. Normal girls, that go out. And sometimes end up with a nice guy. Without any money needed.

And there are some working girls there too.

If your looking for girls, stay mid way back, they tend to hand out there.

If you like the band, (great Filipino band), sit (or stand) up front.

Malones has been there for 15 years. In fact Monday is there annual party for their VIP guest.

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]First time back in Shanghai since the news that Tongren is closing. I hadn't been back to Manhattan since I sent the lastest little "Filly" back to Angeles, since I knew the minute I walked in the door my cell would start ringing with her wanting to know why I was in the club. Got to love the coconut telegraph.

I wanted to have one more night in tongren before this era of fun ended, so off to Malones to start the evening. I talked for some time with one of the managers and he said they were not going to be effected by the shut down, in fact he gave me an invite to their birthday party next week. About 11pm some of the local talent walked in and one of them recognized me. I hate that when it happens. A "cougar" of a Chinese lady struck up a conversation which was a little different and the longer it went on the more I realized she was trying to get me to take her home, or at least out for the rest of the evening. I politely extricated myself and made my way to Manhattan. It was almost midnight and I was surprised by the lack of ladies, or at least pretty ones. I know it was Monday night, and I didn't see one of the "regulars" I had come to know and love 3 months ago. Even my favorite waitress had gone back home. Damn! I did talk a bit with one of the waitresses and she told me that they will close at the end of the month, and some of the clubs will close earlier. I noticed "Blue Frog" was already shut as well as Red Beat.

She did tell me to give her my cell number and she would sms me the new location when they knew for sure where it would B. Either they are playing it close to the vest or really don't know for sure, I still thought it was a nice touch, we will see if she follows thru.

Not much on the Filipina side of the house, but a few really cute Viet's. I decided to check out Judy's one last time and was surprised that they had a better Filipina selection than Manhattan. One of the girls I saw at Malones came in and struck up a conversation. She was cute, but very experienced and I wasn't really tempted. She did give me the information on a couple of new places to try in HK and Macau, which was nice of her. I went to the bathroom and her "buddy" almost followed me into the stall, and she said I know you are talking to my friend, but I think you should take me home. It will be worth your while! So much for looking out for your "friends". LOL

Went back to Manhattan, and struck up a chat with a really cute little Viet gal, not the prettiest, but had a great butt and legs and a sweet disposition.

Back we go to the hotel, and she lived up to her promise, a real GFE, which I really like that finished with her bent over a chair in front of the mirror, who doesn't like a girlfriend in that position! She asked me if I wanted her to stay and I said it was up to her. Off to take a shower she goes, then promptly crawls into bed. She asked for a good night kiss and said to kiss her in the morning if I needed to leave.

She woke up about 1 pm and off to the shower she goes, comes back and gets me started, big "fur ball" in the bed. She almost won the race, but I managed to "finish" just ahead of her. Back into the shower, ask for a bottle of water, kisses me goodbye and out the door. I ask myself, "what's missing", about two seconds later phone rings and she asks me if she can come back to the room, I say sure. We both had forgotten about the "donation", which I gladly gave her. If I get back to town before the end of the month she is a repeat for sure.

There is a funny sidebar, she kind of gave me the "I am new to this, and it is my first time in Shanghai, my friend tell me to come." line, she said she worked for short time in HK, but didn't like it.

Well she asked last night if she could use my laptop to check her email, and she did. She forgot to sign out, so when I opened up the browser her email opened as well. I really tried not to read any, but was weak, especially when there were about 30 from the same person. You guessed it, she has some guy she met in HK on the hook and he is sending her money, and is so glad she quit working in the bars. He thinks she is in Ho Chi Min

I know I shouldn't laugh at the misfortunes of others, but I couldn't help myself. I guess at some point we have all been in a similar position.

So it looks like the end of an era, I am sure there will be another location with similar offerings in the near future. I may have to try Zapatas next time of Bar Rouge. Just to see what they are like.

Stay horny my friends! [/QUOTE]You can find some real nice girls in Manhattan. Hope there new location is convienient. Hey Sky. Maybe run into you at Malone's Monday at their party.

Finally made it to G18. Very easy to find. About 4PM on a Thursday. There were 10 girls in the fishbowl. Frankly, I was expecting more quality. They ranged from 6 - 8. The manager girl who brought me into the fishbowl was hotter than all of them. I should've asked if she was available.

Anyway, they all had petite bodies. I was looking forward to trying #61 based on reports here, but she wasn't in the lineup. I went with the one with the nicest looking body, #15. Turned out to be a GREAT choice.

As said, she has a GREAT body. Cute face, but it was all about her body. 24 years old she said, from Suzhou. Been working there for about 3 months and is leaving in February. Very friendly and flirty. She really liked my body and was pretty genuine about it. I'm young and fit, so YMMV on this one. She said the job is tedious when its someone old or unattractive, but if he is good looking, she enjoys it. About 5'6, slim and toned with about 34B's. Possibly C's. Natural and firm with a small waist. Great to hold onto when fucking from behind.

Another girl came in for the shower/upsell as is custom here. She was less attractive, but was all over me in the shower, even giving me BBBJ. But I was focused on having a good time with #15. The soapy body massage was GREAT. With her firm body and natural tits, it felt wonderful. It was then when we started DFK. There was ALOT of DFK all session and it really was GFE. She seemed really eager to please.

Went to the bed, she pulled out some of her outfits and asked which I preferred. She had naughty nurse, black garter and sexy student. I went with the student. She did the water-tongue bath, lots of AR. BBBJ WHILE fucking herself with my big toe. That was a first. She then asked me if I wanted to put it in and I was like, hell yes. I was too big for her to ride, so she told me to get on top and i fucked her missionary, sideways and finished doggy. We cuddled and did plenty more DFK, totally making out the whole time. In all, I was there for 1.5 - 2 hours.

Opted not to go for the VIP card. Didnt see that great of a lineup. Unless I know #61 is working, I probably won't go back. #15 was a great time, but 880 is a bit up there in price for me.

Overall:
Face - 7
Body - 9
GFE/Attitude - 10
Service - 9.5 (can there really ever be a perfect 10?)

Questions:

- Is there any way we can know who is available when? Do you think calling and asking if #61 is free would actually work?

- Has anyone had the super sexy "manager" in the pencil skirt and heels, with button down shirt with lots of cleavage come into the waiting room to tell them about the membership card? She also brought me into the fishbowl. SHE was sexy. If she was in the lineup, she would have been my choice without question. Any info on her? I was kicking myself for at least not asking if I could have her even jokingly.

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Get their cell number and qq number. Call or email a day or so before you want to see them. Repeats can blow you away. I speak no Mandarin. Yahoo and Google both have tranlators that you can use.

[QUOTE=Tyson]Finally made it to G18. Very easy to find. About 4PM on a Thursday. There were 10 girls in the fishbowl. Frankly, I was expecting more quality. They ranged from 6 - 8. The manager girl who brought me into the fishbowl was hotter than all of them. I should've asked if she was available.

Anyway, they all had petite bodies. I was looking forward to trying #61 based on reports here, but she wasn't in the lineup. I went with the one with the nicest looking body, #15. Turned out to be a GREAT choice.

As said, she has a GREAT body. Cute face, but it was all about her body. 24 years old she said, from Suzhou. Been working there for about 3 months and is leaving in February. Very friendly and flirty. She really liked my body and was pretty genuine about it. I'm young and fit, so YMMV on this one. She said the job is tedious when its someone old or unattractive, but if he is good looking, she enjoys it. About 5'6, slim and toned with about 34B's. Possibly C's. Natural and firm with a small waist. Great to hold onto when fucking from behind.

Another girl came in for the shower/upsell as is custom here. She was less attractive, but was all over me in the shower, even giving me BBBJ. But I was focused on having a good time with #15. The soapy body massage was GREAT. With her firm body and natural tits, it felt wonderful. It was then when we started DFK. There was ALOT of DFK all session and it really was GFE. She seemed really eager to please.

Went to the bed, she pulled out some of her outfits and asked which I preferred. She had naughty nurse, black garter and sexy student. I went with the student. She did the water-tongue bath, lots of AR. BBBJ WHILE fucking herself with my big toe. That was a first. She then asked me if I wanted to put it in and I was like, hell yes. I was too big for her to ride, so she told me to get on top and i fucked her missionary, sideways and finished doggy. We cuddled and did plenty more DFK, totally making out the whole time. In all, I was there for 1.5 - 2 hours.

Opted not to go for the VIP card. Didnt see that great of a lineup. Unless I know #61 is working, I probably won't go back. #15 was a great time, but 880 is a bit up there in price for me.

Overall:
Face - 7
Body - 9
GFE/Attitude - 10
Service - 9.5 (can there really ever be a perfect 10?)

Questions:

- Is there any way we can know who is available when? Do you think calling and asking if #61 is free would actually work?

- Has anyone had the super sexy "manager" in the pencil skirt and heels, with button down shirt with lots of cleavage come into the waiting room to tell them about the membership card? She also brought me into the fishbowl. SHE was sexy. If she was in the lineup, she would have been my choice without question. Any info on her? I was kicking myself for at least not asking if I could have her even jokingly.

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[QUOTE=Tyson]Questions:

- Is there any way we can know who is available when? Do you think calling and asking if #61 is free would actually work?[/QUOTE]Tyson,

Always worth calling before if you after a specific girl. She is also likely to ge a bonus for that and will love you even more for it. Also worth getting a girls cell number. They can be pretty responsive and will tell you when / if they are working.

WGS

Post unrelated to anything, but from my personal experience most girls who work at saunas and BBSs are from the following 3 areas: Chongqing/Sichuan, Fujian, and Harbin (Heilongjiang province). Great if you like girls from these areas I guess, maybe some of you can tell the difference. I've had just one from Jiangsu (a newcomer who was about 9/10 on the looks scale) and Hubei province each.

Hi guys,
I talked with the doormen of JUDY'S on Saturday (which, by the way are relatives of "Judy" who owns or at least owned the SPOT bar and some other restaurants in Shanghai, too).
They told me that they only had to close this sunday (Nov. 15th) because of Obama's visit, and that already today/monday everything would be back to normal.
And they mentioned that they will close "next year" - whatever this means.
So "THE ERA" seems not to be finished yet...
Cheers,
Shamuc

[QUOTE=World Guy Sh]Tyson,

Always worth calling before if you after a specific girl. She is also likely to ge a bonus for that and will love you even more for it. Also worth getting a girls cell number. They can be pretty responsive and will tell you when / if they are working.

WGS[/QUOTE]Shoot, can somebody help me out with the phone number? As mentioned, I didn't get to see #61, so of course, didn't get to ask for her number. Thanks for the recommendations.

Any info on the Manager Lady? Smoking hot.
Face - 8
Body - 9.5 (with her sexy outfit on. im sure she's wearing a pushup bra.)

[QUOTE=Tyson]Shoot, can somebody help me out with the phone number? As mentioned, I didn't get to see #61, so of course, didn't get to ask for her number. Thanks for the recommendations.

Any info on the Manager Lady? Smoking hot.
Face - 8
Body - 9.5 (with her sexy outfit on. im sure she's wearing a pushup bra.)[/QUOTE]

I'd add that you should tell the front desk people you want girl #61 (or whatever number). The girl will definitely get a bigger cut of the money. Once you get into a routine of picking her number up front (assuming you like to frequent the same girl), you can expect much better service.

[QUOTE=Tasss]Post unrelated to anything, but from my personal experience most girls who work at saunas and BBSs are from the following 3 areas: Chongqing/Sichuan, Fujian, and Harbin (Heilongjiang province). Great if you like girls from these areas I guess, maybe some of you can tell the difference. I've had just one from Jiangsu (a newcomer who was about 9/10 on the looks scale) and Hubei province each.[/QUOTE]

Tasss,

After trying girls from most of the provinces in China, I can give you my personal opinion of the ones you mention:

Sichuan: Normally, the best service IMHO
Fujian: Supposedly give the best HJ. Many of the HJ only joints are staffed by girls from Fujian.
Harbin: Dongbei girls are a favorite among local and overseas Chinese punters since they are generally taller and have that specific look that appeals to this consumer group.
Hubei: Overall, I've had poor service from this group. Many I have done have been in a hurry and/or tried to overcharge me.
Jiangsu: I've only done a few so I cannot render an opinion.

You also get quite a few Zhejiang girls in Shanghai since it is close. Again, I've not done enough of these to judge.

We get a lot of Hunan and Hubei girls down South. IMHO, the Hunan girls are a close second to Sichuan in terms of service.

Obviously, YMMV.

Just my POV.

OAH

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]Tasss,

After trying girls from most of the provinces in China, I can give you my personal opinion of the ones you mention:

Sichuan: Normally, the best service IMHO[/QUOTE]Agreed. One of them was so nice to me she led me to her apartment and let me stay over, the only time that ever happened.

[QUOTE]Harbin: Dongbei girls are a favorite among local and overseas Chinese punters since they are generally taller and have that specific look that appeals to this consumer group.[/QUOTE]Again agreed there. The one I remember had really white skin and probably 1.72m or so, tall for a Chinese chick. But she had an attitude, talked about her work as a business and paid a lot of attention to herself in general during my session.

The thing is the Shanghainese say Sichuan girls are pretty and have nice skin, but I don't really see that. I think if I had a category that I would go for repeatedly in the future it would be the Dongbei girls just because of their fair skin.

Guys,

Sorry have to post this here but there is no specific hotel thread for Shanghai. Will be in Shanghai with a friend end of the month for 3 nights. Looking at Haiyatt 99 Qinjiang Road(not Hyatt) and Anting Villa Hotel, Anting road. I'm not familiar with both hotel and location. Any input is welcome eg shops close by etc. This is a holiday trip. Or suggestion for another hotel is also good. Looking at rates of RMB400-600/night.

Sorry guys, I found the hotel thread for shanghai and it was right in front of my eyes. Sorry. Will post there.

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]You also get quite a few Zhejiang girls in Shanghai since it is close. Again, I've not done enough of these to judge.[/QUOTE]
I live in that neighboring Zhejiang province, and can probably count the number of ZJ girls I've encountered on one hand. The working girls here are from Sichuan or Fujian, mostly. Not even just WG's--even waitresses in restaurants aren't from here.

Can anyone pm me the address or phone # for 'european eye'? also, is there other good alternatives for incall russian girls?

Many thanks

Just wonder which areas are the red light districts of Shanghai?

Do they sell drugs openly there?

[QUOTE=Actifed]Just wonder which areas are the red light districts of Shanghai?

Do they sell drugs openly there?[/QUOTE]1) Welcome to Shanghai and

2) Welcome to the Real World

3) Time to wake up, and last, but not least.

4) RTFF

Levitian

[QUOTE=Actifed]Just wonder which areas are the red light districts of Shanghai?

Do they sell drugs openly there? [/quote]To Actifed,

No more red light China goverment closed them all, just stay home and smoke your cracks or do some RTFF.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]To Actifed,

No more red light China goverment closed them all, just stay home and smoke your cracks or do some RTFF.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Awww.... come on Eddie... come on Levitian!!
The guy's just wanting some information!
What's wrong with that??

Actifed - sorry, I don't know Shanghai well enough to give you good leads/reply.

But if these guys here will NOT act like the good hosts that we all are meant to be, giving advise, replying promptly and being nice and defferential to one and all who'd be coming to China to spend $$$ and help the economy, then you should just ask the Immigration officer AND the customs officer as soon as you arrive with your question. They'd be very happy to be able to showcase their town to one and all valued foreign visitors

Make sure you ask the Customs officer as they know all the places where they sell drugs openly. After all, China fought the great Opium War to make sure that the English don't stop their supply of opium from India. Hey, perhaps you should also go to India,Pakistan and Afghanistan too - that's where all the GREAT supply's at these days!!

Have a great time in Shanghai and a great big Welcome to you

SEAJ-

[QUOTE=Aww12]Can anyone pm me the address or phone # for 'european eye'? also, is there other good alternatives for incall russian girls?

Many thanks[/QUOTE]

13601758125

Hi,

I noticed on my recent stay at the Eton Hotel, that there where several Bars close to the hotel on Changyi Road.

I did not get time to take a look, but was wondering if it is worth paying a visit on my next stay in a couple of weeks.

Basically I'm looking to have a few beers and enjoy the company of some lovely Filipina ladies on a Friday night.

If there are other suggestions I would appreciate.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Iwannahumpalot]Hi,

I noticed on my recent stay at the Eton Hotel, that there where several Bars close to the hotel on Changyi Road.

I did not get time to take a look, but was wondering if it is worth paying a visit on my next stay in a couple of weeks.

Basically I'm looking to have a few beers and enjoy the company of some lovely Filipina ladies on a Friday night.

If there are other suggestions I would appreciate.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

The answer is YESSSSSS.

I used to live across the street from those bars and I got really lucky with a really sexy, large rack 26 y/o Filipina. Took her out in the day time and got it for free that night (after work) and regularly for about 2 months before I moved back to the US.

Donno prices cuz mine was free.

PM me with your email address and I will send you some pix. No nudes though but good face shots so you can find her. Don't want to post her face shots here.

ES

[QUOTE=Rob Woodrow]I live in that neighboring Zhejiang province, and can probably count the number of ZJ girls I've encountered on one hand. The working girls here are from Sichuan or Fujian, mostly. Not even just WG's--even waitresses in restaurants aren't from here.[/QUOTE]

Rob Woodrow,

Most WGs will not work in the place they come from for fear of being seen by someone they know or who knows their family.

Just my POV.

OAH

[QUOTE=Actifed]Just wonder which areas are the red light districts of Shanghai?

Do they sell drugs openly there?[/QUOTE]

Mei wen ti. Just [url=http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=amsterdam,+red+light+district&sll=52.371205,4.897937&sspn=0.006734,0.027595&g=amsterdam&ie=UTF8&hq=red+light+district&hnear=Amsterdam,+The+Netherlands&ll=52.376831,4.914966&spn=0.006628,0.027595&z=15&iwloc=C] follow this link [/url] and it will take you there.

[QUOTE=Herr Pollon]13601758125[/QUOTE]Hello,

Can you give more information about this ladies? prices? is possible to see the girls on site?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Iwannahumpalot]Hi,

I noticed on my recent stay at the Eton Hotel, that there where several Bars close to the hotel on Changyi Road.

I did not get time to take a look, but was wondering if it is worth paying a visit on my next stay in a couple of weeks.

Basically I'm looking to have a few beers and enjoy the company of some lovely Filipina ladies on a Friday night.

If there are other suggestions I would appreciate.

Thanks[/QUOTE]These bars are quite nice and not expensive. A ladydrink is 45 RMB. Although it is not standard procedure for the girls to spend the night with a customer, they earn their living from the commission on the drinks, it is possible to take them back to the hotel. I paid 1000 RMB for a night and all next day until she had to go back to work. Filippina girls are more willing than the Chinese. You might have to work a little harder on the latter.

[QUOTE=Shamuc]Hi guys,

I talked with the doormen of JUDY'S on Saturday (which, by the way are relatives of "Judy" who owns or at least owned the SPOT bar and some other restaurants in Shanghai, too).

They told me that they only had to close this Sunday (Nov. 15th) because of Obama's visit, and that already today/Monday everything would be back to normal.

And they mentioned that they will close "next year". Whatever this means.

So "THE ERA" seems not to be finished yet.

Cheers,

Shamuc[/QUOTE]Reports of my demise. Yes indeed, seems that it will be going for a while longer. Talking to a girl on Saturday last week, she said that the management of M's were already looking for a new location.

Probably a case of watch this space. Mind you, quality seemed way down. Found a gorgeouos in the gloom, and OK in the light Hubei girl, but the Filipinas. The usual hangers on who always seem to be there and some new faces. But nothing to set the world on fire. One persistent Vietnamese girl. Prices: 1000RMB alnight at 1. 30am. Come on.

Still too many gawkers. Not enough space to move.

Judy's: mucho ladyboys or girls who looked like LB's for my liking.

Going to have to venture up north to find some ladies from UB. Still the best.

WGS

[QUOTE=Aithor23]Hello,

Can you give more information about this ladies? prices? is possible to see the girls on site?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[url]http://shanghai.craigslist.com.cn/ers/1466747924.html[/url]

[url]http://shanghai.craigslist.com.cn/ers/1465271409.html[/url]

1000ish picts are fake.

Hello, fellow monger friends, I come from a land far far away and somehow ended up in shanghai for two weeks. Been a monger myself in my country (same that has one ISG subforum dedicated to itself) and wanting to expands my horizons I came to this forum. I've been reading this thread and was curious about G18. Thanks to your wonderful reports I'm pretty sure I can find the place very easily however since I speak no mandarin at all I wanted to know if I will be able to "deal" with the ladies there, does the madamme speaks english well enough to explain everything to me? I still think 800 RMB is a high price but I could give it a try. Hey, do girls at G18 shave down there? Is just that I like a shaved p*ssy over an asian hairy mess (I've seen japanese porno movies)

One more thing, in my country there's a "foreign monger tax" that get prices higher for them. So, the price in G18 for foreigners is 800 RMB right? I wouldn't like to be overcharged.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Hi guys,

Like the title said the Golden 18 on Wulumuqi road and the JinDing on Wudingxi road are closed. From what I know it is from today 22 November. Don't know when they are going to open again. I'll tell you as soon as I know guys. So does anyone know any other nice place in the same range of price and with the same service? Thank's everyone. Wish you all a happy mongering.

Shiva

Hi Guys,

I haven't partied in Shanghai for sometime now (never in Pudong actually) and all the info I've RTFF would probably be outdated. I need your recommendation for a 4 star hotel in Pudong with good sauna or near a good sauna. I will be there early next week, hopefully saunas are open normal.

Thanks in davance

Just been to the Merilyn Sauna today and it was only open for normal sauna services, no FS available. I asked how long and was told definately today and tomorrow closed for FS! Seems there is a new round of clean up ongoing! Stay save, I think it will only get worse towards to Expo!

[QUOTE=Iwannahumpalot]Hi,
I noticed on my recent ...Thanks[/QUOTE]

After reading Iwannahumpalot's (btw: funny name..) post I went to Chang Yi Lu friday around 6pm..as expected the bars were still empty...
But: I then tried the "AMOR massage" around the corner at the bar strip...and this was one of the most sensual erotic experiences in my life.
There are probably thousands of MP's offering a "happy ending" - but this one was exceptional; however it may depend on the girl (unfortunately I was still dizzy when leaving and missed to ask for her name or number..).
Will be there as soon as I am on the Pudong side again (without girlfriend..).
Price for 1h was 180 RMB for the (already good) oil massage plus 100 tip.

Cheers,
Shamuc

What?! G18 closed? No way, I can't believe my bad luck.

For vacation. I don't know for how long. Sarcosa open as of today.

Use caution while taking taxis to late-night venues.

A few months ago, I headed out to TRL around midnight & grabbed a taxi waiting in the street near my 5-star hotel in Pudong. What should have been a $5 taxi fare turned into about $30. I'm sure the meter was rigged since it was spinning at a very high rate. I should have jumped out at the nearest stop light, but was in a hurry to get to TRL. After arriving at Judy's, I paid him with two 100 yuan bills. Which he held up to the light and shouted that they were fake. So I took the bills back & gave him two fresh bills.

Later on, I checked with the hotel & indeed the two bills were fake. Of course, you know the scam. He dealt me two bad bills off the bottom of his stack of money & wound up keeping 400 yuan worth of good bills. A very expensive cab ride, indeed. (It took me a few days to pass off those bad bills since most places check them in scanner machines.)

The good news is that the night had a very happy ending after meeting a little cutie inside Manhattan..

Lesson learned: 1. Cabbies at the hotel valet might be a little more reliable late at night than street side ones nearby. 2. Watch the meter closely, especially late at night. 3. Beware of getting passed fake bills & double-paying.

I'm no newbie at international travel. I even carry a gps with me to make sure taxis don't take me on a "scenic" route. I kind of admired this guy for ripping me off so smoothly. Very creative. But never again.

[QUOTE=Bigboobman007]Hi Guys,

I haven't partied in Shanghai for sometime now (never in Pudong actually) and all the info I've RTFF would probably be outdated. I need your recommendation for a 4 star hotel in Pudong with good sauna or near a good sauna. I will be there early next week, hopefully saunas are open normal.

Thanks in davance[/QUOTE]Outdated, exactely this question I did answer about a month ago and just search Pudong and you will find.

FA

Isn't there a Malone's in Pudong, at Thumb Plaza?

fz

[QUOTE=Fuzimiao]Isn't there a Malone's in Pudong, at Thumb Plaza?

Fz[/QUOTE]YES there is. Never been there. So don't know the scene.

The original one is on Tongren Lu. Been there for 15 years.

[QUOTE=Bigboobman007]Hi Guys,

I haven't partied in Shanghai for sometime now (never in Pudong actually) and all the info I've RTFF would probably be outdated. I need your recommendation for a 4 star hotel in Pudong with good sauna or near a good sauna. I will be there early next week, hopefully saunas are open normal.

Thanks in davance[/QUOTE]

I personally recommend Courtyard Marriott @ 838 Dongfang Rd
Sauna on the corner and Sauna behind in the big hotel called B....
I can't promise the sauna are still open as these days it looks it is a "wroking in progress" from what we can raed here.
The news of the Merrylin sauna closing for certain fun is a bad one (btw that saun is just some 500mtr from the above hotel and opposite the Intercontinental)

I didn't feel like putting in the time, money and effort for a trip to Manhattan's or Judy TOO, so I decided to venture to Sacrosa about 9:00 pm this evening. As I was getting on the elevator, I noticed three police officers getting off and one lady was talking with them. It didn't look like she was in custody or anything, just trying to explain something. Still, the old "this is a bad sign" radar went off. Just for piece of mind, I took the elevator to the 8th floor, walked down to 6 then got back on an elevator to 5F. As I got off three of the "door men" told me "we are closed" at the same time. I asked for how long and didn't get an answer. I didn't ask if this was a recent decision, but got the impression, it had happened in the last few minutes. Everyone was standing around and even the receptionist was still at her station.
I don't know if the police I saw were involved in the closing, but it sure felt like it. I was pissed.....like that matters.
Walked back to the Century City metro, and totally forgot about the bars that Humpalot mentioned. Second mistake. The only good thing was I didn't succumb to the touts across from the Intercontinental. Maybe you can't get service from the girls these guys have, but not sure I want to try. I even passed up a "mommy's" promise of a good time with one of her girl's. I know in some locale's these are good bet, not sure about Shanghai.
Anyway, it seems that this is going to be a bit of ongoing problem with the saunas, it is a damn shame I tell you!

[QUOTE=Krisowens555]Lesson learned: 1. Cabbies at the hotel valet might be a little more reliable late at night than street side ones nearby.[/QUOTE]If you take a cab from outside the front of your hotel, the valet usually asks for your room number and also take down the number of the cab.

[QUOTE=Diet Cola]If you take a cab from outside the front of your hotel, the valet usually asks for your room number and also take down the number of the cab.[/QUOTE]

Just get the receipt from them and have the hotel report them. You'll get your money back quickly.

Taxis here rarely cheat, because the penalty is quite punitive (by their standards).

-B-

The weekend (part timers) taxies are the worst. They act like they're confused and if you don't know the way yourself it's the long way around for you. You can always tell because they make such a theatric out of it. Surely a dumb tourist will fall for it because they are confused to.

I was lucky enough to catch a cab in a back street off Nanjing Lu during the Moon Festival. I showed him a Zappatta's card but then relaxed instead of paying attention. When we go there I looked at the meter to see the fare but he never put it on. I pointed to it and he said 70 rmb. It's a 24 rmb ride.

I handed him 25 rmb and said that was all he was getting. He puffed himself up and got mad, saying how I had to pay 70 rmb. He was large at about 35 years and he had me pegged for a 60 year old helpless tourist.

To shorten this. I told him no, he didn't put on the meter. He snarled and said, "You want the meter. " He put it on and started driving around in circles so now I owe him for this as well as the 70 rmb.

When we got to a red light I smashed my door (which was locked) with my elbow braced in my hand. I offered him the 25 rmb again. He said no. I was just joking the first time. I braced myself and smashed his door with my elbow again so hard it visibly bent out (I'm a 60 year old martial artist). Then I rapped the window hard with my fist offered, him the 25 rmb again and snarled at him to open the door. My fist was following his head movements by now.

Suddenly the clear light of reason came into his eyes. He grabbed the money and unlocked the door.

By law you don't have to pay anything if they don't put on the meter. Somewhere on a sign in a taxi (back seat?) I saw an emergency phone number to call if you have problems in a taxi. The sign is in english so presumably you can speak english if you need to. It is a short odd looking number but I wrote down 962-288.

[QUOTE=Actifed]Just wonder which areas are the red light districts of Shanghai?[/QUOTE]Hi Actifed!

Just a tip for you and your PSB colleagues when attempting undercover work!

- DON'T create an account that co-incides exactly with a crackdown on prostitution.

- DON'T pick a silly user name based on a popular Western consumer item.

- DO create some [I]guanxi[/I] first with some useful posts before beginning with surreptitious investigations.

Good luck with the next attempt and welcome again!

So, I decided to go check G18 out, I thought maybe the place will still be open and this was their last day before vacations. I got on the Line 2 metro

[url]http://www.exploreshanghai.com/metro/[/url]

Using that web site that allows me to mark a route from station to station and it will tell me the fare. Ok so based on google maps I thought I should get off at the West Nanjing Station, mistake. So I walked west hoping to find Wulumqi Street (Urumqi on google maps) I walked until I hit the station I should've get off the metro, Jing'an Temple. I keep on walking west until over Nanjing Road until I found the street. I took the liberty to take a few pictures for you guys so that you can recognize the place. The pictures are right on the corner where you have to turn right and walk north a few feet and there you will find it. It says Golden Club on red letters.

When I got to the place around 3 PM today Tuesday nov 24th my fears where confirmed, it was closed. No one at reception and everything seemed shut off. Maybe I got there at a bad time, too early in the afternoon, thinking that its never too early for a nice ph*ck.

Anyway, I'll be here until Saturday and I would like to know what other places like G18 can I go to. Locations, how to get there and prices are very well appreciated.

Thanks.

For sure, Actifed is either LE or a complete f*cking idiot!


[QUOTE=Comrade 2255]Hi Actifed!

Just a tip for you and your PSB colleagues when attempting undercover work!

- DON'T create an account that co-incides exactly with a crackdown on prostitution.

- DON'T pick a silly user name based on a popular Western consumer item.

- DO create some [I]guanxi[/I] first with some useful posts before beginning with surreptitious investigations.

Good luck with the next attempt and welcome again![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=World Guy Sh]Tyson,

Always worth calling before if you after a specific girl. She is also likely to ge a bonus for that and will love you even more for it. Also worth getting a girls cell number. They can be pretty responsive and will tell you when / if they are working.

WGS[/QUOTE]


I have 2 girls from Heting that have become my gf's per say last visit. Both overnighted with me several times after they got off of work. It pays too get their #s if you click. Also, got a massage girl in Zhuhai to overnight.
It was a good trip with 3 freebies.

PC out

999 is on my way home; yesterday at 0:30 am it was dark and closed; seems that they also had to shut down?
By the way: there was a raid in some filipina bars in Pudong on weekend; the girls were interviewed about the visa (how they got it etc.) - and whenever there was doubt about the story the visa is now being cancelled, they have some days to leave.
My girlfriend is filipina and got this info from some of the ladies. Getting tough for them, too...

[QUOTE=Gary C]The weekend (part timers) taxies are the worst. They act like they're confused and if you don't know the way yourself it's the long way around for you. You can always tell because they make such a theatric out of it. Surely a dumb tourist will fall for it because they are confused to.

I was lucky enough to catch a cab in a back street off Nanjing Lu during the Moon Festival. I showed him a Zappatta's card but then relaxed instead of paying attention. When we go there I looked at the meter to see the fare but he never put it on. I pointed to it and he said 70 rmb. It's a 24 rmb ride.

I handed him 25 rmb and said that was all he was getting. He puffed himself up and got mad, saying how I had to pay 70 rmb. [/QUOTE]
Shanghai cab drivers will be fired if your complaint is voiced. The Shanghai government, and especially the JingAn District Administration, is tough on this. I've never had this problem in SH. The most frequent problem is new drivers who can't find their way.

I had a problem with an arrogant young cab driver in Xi'an two or three years ago. "Broken meter, run around etc." The gf with me was mad and wanted his head, but I just gave him the extra fare. Five bucks won't impoverish me. Wu kuai meiyuan Qiong buliao wo.
CG

My Chinese Aunt has a story of a rickshaw puller who hauled her through very scary areas of Shanghai in the old days. She finally flagged down a big, mandarin speaking Shandong cop, who beat the shit out of the rickshaw puller and sent her back to a safe area.
CG

I found G18 closed last weekend. An informant tells me that all saunas in Shanghai have been closed. True? Does anyone know more?







[QUOTE=Shamuc]999 is on my way home; yesterday at 0:30 am it was dark and closed; seems that they also had to shut down?
By the way: there was a raid in some filipina bars in Pudong on weekend; the girls were interviewed about the visa (how they got it etc.) - and whenever there was doubt about the story the visa is now being cancelled, they have some days to leave.
My girlfriend is filipina and got this info from some of the ladies. Getting tough for them, too...[/QUOTE]

I visited Bar Rouge last weeked again after about 2 years. I was quite surprised (pleasantly) to find so many WGs. I never noticed that in the past.

Most of them were older girls around 30, but generally not bad to look at.
A change to the usually tiny girls at saunas. Didn't take one out, because I was already with a girl.

Yes I too was ripped off by a taxi driver on my first day in shanghai. I came to longyand Road station taking the maglev train from the airport. Walked out with my heavy bag and was offered a taxi, a man in a sports jacket that speaks some english, I thought there was nothing wrong with that. I walk over to the taxi, it was a black taxi, almost falling apart piece by piece. So I get on, told him what my hotel was so the driver must have estimated the rip off based on the fancy hotel information I gave him. He asks for 250 RMB for a 20 RMB ride, I knew he was ripping me off with that but I had to pay. I told him that how come if one night in my hotel is 700 RMB (corporate rate) you are asking for 250? He says taxi in shanghai is very expensive. "Yeah right you thief". I think to my self.

When we come near the hotel the s. O. B. Drops me near by, doesn't even pull to the main entrance so I had to walk carrying my heavy bag all the way to the hotel. Later I was told that he would've pulled over by the main hotel entrance where the concierge is, he would have been in trouble because he didn't used the meter.

So there you have it, never take black taxis and always ask for the reciept which contains the fare, amount payed and taxi driver badge number if you want to report them.

[QUOTE=Shiva Lee]Hi guys,

Like the title said the Golden 18 on Wulumuqi road and the JinDing on Wudingxi road are closed. From what I know it is from today 22 November. Don't know when they are going to open again. I'll tell you as soon as I know guys. So does anyone know any other nice place in the same range of price and with the same service? Thank's everyone. Wish you all a happy mongering.

Shiva[/QUOTE]Yes, but you will need to PM me. Least, it was open when I last went passed.

ANd please make sure you have posted a fair bit before you PM.

SkyRider - noted you were in town last weekend. Long time, no see. PM / shoot me a text next time if you want to do some drinking. BL can also be up for it. I'll try not to be out the country again.

WGS

Hi everyone,

My first post in this forum, please correct me if I've mis-stated anything, only trying to contribute to this wonderful forum.

So yesterday was my first exploration and I've read on previous posts about Shanghai Hotel. Yesterday around 4pm, I went into the hotel and straight up to 2nd floor. The place was open but the reception told me that there was no massage. They told me there haven't been these last couple days and will not have the next couple either. (I'm assuming that by no massage they mean there's no girls or anything there)

Is there a complete shut down of these massage places? I was really looking forward to having a good time there but was disappointed to find it closed. Can someone confirm this for me? If I'm looking for similar services and price, could someone please suggest me another place?

Thank you. I will try my best to update everyone on what I know.

Hey folks,

Sorry for the repeat if the previous post went through. I wrote something up but it didn't seem to show up properly.

My first time exploring to these wonderful places in Shanghai and I decided to go to Shanghai Hotel since it seemed like it was a reliable choice. Yesterday around 4pm, I went to the hotel and went straight up to the 2nd floor. As soon as I stepped out of the elevator, I was greeted by the people at reception. However, much to my disappointment, I was informed that there was no massage today. Neither was there massages available the last couple days or in the next couple of days. I am assuming that no massage = no girls!

I was quite disappointed b/c I was really looking forward to this place after reading so many good reviews about it on the forum. Can someone please recommend me any places that are similar in price and quality that I could visit near the Jing'an district? I know I'm quite new, but I would truly appreciate any advice. Thanks everyone!

[QUOTE=Solx1]Yes I too was ripped off by a taxi driver on my first day in shanghai. I came to longyand Road station taking the maglev train from the airport. .....So there you have it, never take black taxis and always ask for the reciept which contains the fare, amount payed and taxi driver badge number if you want to report them.[/QUOTE]
Had a similar story first time I went to SH a few years ago. At the city station of the Maglev a hord of (illegal) taxi drivers are lined up and work to grab the business, putting your bag in the trunk and onc eyou are inside and check the fare they say 205rmb: negotiated down to 150rmb (they damn know it is cheap for us european) and drove us to destination.
Never played that game again. I'd rather prefer to spend more with a hotel limo, being picked up from arrival and deliverred in the room!
Worst experience was once with a rather far away drive, longer by the unexperience of the driver.The main issue was that he was..SLEEPING while driving. I was sensing some strange movements of his head and hands and then turned out he was trying to keep himself awake by slapping his own palm on the face and on the neck.
Scaaaaring! but not much I could do
He even stopped the car in the middle lane of a flyover as he was too far from the way out. I was expecting a huge crash from the back but we survived, till a merciful van driver stopped on the side lane to protect us and let us catch to the way out.
Was just 8pm and the guy was sleeping already while driving: makes me wonder about his working shcedule of the day.

[QUOTE=Solx1]Yes I too was ripped off by a taxi driver on my first day in shanghai. I came to longyand Road station taking the maglev train from the airport. Walked out with my heavy bag and was offered a taxi, a man in a sports jacket that speaks some english, I thought there was nothing wrong with that. I walk over to the taxi, it was a black taxi, almost falling apart piece by piece. So I get on, told him what my hotel was so the driver must have estimated the rip off based on the fancy hotel information I gave him. He asks for 250 RMB for a 20 RMB ride, I knew he was ripping me off with that but I had to pay. I told him that how come if one night in my hotel is 700 RMB (corporate rate) you are asking for 250? He says taxi in shanghai is very expensive. "Yeah right you thief". I think to my self.

When we come near the hotel the s. O. B. Drops me near by, doesn't even pull to the main entrance so I had to walk carrying my heavy bag all the way to the hotel. Later I was told that he would've pulled over by the main hotel entrance where the concierge is, he would have been in trouble because he didn't used the meter.

So there you have it, never take black taxis and always ask for the reciept which contains the fare, amount payed and taxi driver badge number if you want to report them.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about your problems. Shanghai taxi drivers, even the legitimate ones, are among the worse I have ever experienced. Half the time, they do not know to drive to your destination, as they are new to town. Regarding Longyang Station, there is a monitored queue for taxis next to the parking lot. When you pass the turnstile, exit to the left and look for signs for taxis. There will be an escalator down to the street level. There always is an attendant there to monitor the activity. After dozens of trips, I have never been ripped off by any of the taxis there. Avoid the ones trying to pick you up curbside.

[QUOTE=Cv7346]Hey folks,

Sorry for the repeat if the previous post went through. I wrote something up but it didn't seem to show up properly.

My first time exploring to these wonderful places in Shanghai and I decided to go to Shanghai Hotel since it seemed like it was a reliable choice. Yesterday around 4pm, I went to the hotel and went straight up to the 2nd floor. As soon as I stepped out of the elevator, I was greeted by the people at reception. However, much to my disappointment, I was informed that there was no massage today. Neither was there massages available the last couple days or in the next couple of days. I am assuming that no massage = no girls!

I was quite disappointed b/c I was really looking forward to this place after reading so many good reviews about it on the forum. Can someone please recommend me any places that are similar in price and quality that I could visit near the Jing'an district? I know I'm quite new, but I would truly appreciate any advice. Thanks everyone![/QUOTE]Did you by any chance read any of the recent posts here? You truly do not deserve to be helped!

[QUOTE=Shamuc]By the way: there was a raid in some filipina bars in Pudong on weekend; the girls were interviewed about the visa (how they got it etc.) - and whenever there was doubt about the story the visa is now being cancelled, they have some days to leave.

My girlfriend is filipina and got this info from some of the ladies. Getting tough for them, too...[/QUOTE]Around 10 police cars drove up Saturday night to check the visa of the Filippino girls working in the bars. They require a working visa, but only have tourist visa. They have been given 10 days to leave the country.

[QUOTE=Bionicman]Had a similar story first time I went to SH a few years ago. At the city station of the Maglev a hord of (illegal) taxi drivers are lined up and work to grab the business, putting your bag in the trunk and onc eyou are inside and check the fare they say 205rmb: negotiated down to 150rmb (they damn know it is cheap for us european) and drove us to destination.
Never played that game again. I'd rather prefer to spend more with a hotel limo, being picked up from arrival and deliverred in the room![/QUOTE]

The same rule applies at any transit point in China, not only Shanghai. Look for the official taxi rank, only official taxis are allowed to pick up there. Ignore touts, and ignore maroon "taxis" with fixed rates starting at 50rmb, jumping quickly to 150rmb. These scam taxis are easily recognised by the fact that locals are ignoring them! There are always 20 of them lined up outside the pearl tower. Two weeks ago I spotted a row of these fake taxis picking up at the Shanghai Stadium after a show. They also stand out because they are none VW model vehicles. They do however have a taxi sign, and a meter.
Locals always prefer to take the turquoise Da Zhong taxis!

fz

[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]I found G18 closed last weekend. An informant tells me that all saunas in Shanghai have been closed. True? Does anyone know more?[/QUOTE]It was open today when I went there around 6pm. I ended up not having enough cash on me and didn't want to use the atm outside so didn't go through with the service today. However, I met a nice gentleman at the counter who said I can use his member id number when I come back tomorrow to get the discount. Wonder if he's anyone from this forum. I might try Sacrosa instead tomorrow though.

So apparently my post was not helpful last time, let me try again to see if this one would be any good.

Went to the joint here on Friday 1AM after reading an old post from long time ago. This sauna/bath place is located in a hotel tucked away in the middle of a long strip of road. Pretty hard to find at night.

Went in, service was alright and was served immediately to the shower room. After taking shower, I was lead to a room and a line of very limited girls showed up. There were only 6 to choose from but all were quite mediocre (all around 5-6) I asked for more but was told those are the only ones still working. Chose number 405 because she had a large rack and a sweet smile. She led me up to a room upstairs and we did our business. She began the routine with the water sucking all around my back and sliding her tits on me. She progressed to a BJ and fucked her. She was alright, looked like she worked hard for me but she just wasn't that good. Her body wasn't as slim as I had imagined.

Anyway, pretty disappointing rookie experience. Total damage was 680, I don't think I'll go there again. Will try G18 this weekend.

Have to revise what I posted earlier this week - yesterday 999 was open again, too..so seems that they/LE try to "confuse" the customers..

Open this afternoon. Great line up. Great service.

JingDing is also open again.

Shiva

Gentlemen,

Yes G18 is open again. It was definately shut earlier on this week but a few days ago the doors opened. Tonight the dude at the door quoted me 880. I'm on a budget so am not yet able to partake.

Another option is further on down the road, in the same building as the Shanghai No 1 Hotpot restaurant. Walk down the covered alley (yeah it was a bit scary but there are huge signs in Chinese and Japanese advertising a Sauna), and get into the elevator. A gentleman confirmed my intentions and led me to the internet cafe/game centre where there is a special entrance to the sauna. Was quoted 650 for full service and 750 for VIP service (a nicer room it seems).

Will write a report when I give either of them a go.

[QUOTE=Brobeck]Sorry to hear about your problems. Shanghai taxi drivers, even the legitimate ones, are among the worse I have ever experienced. Half the time, they do not know to drive to your destination, as they are new to town. Regarding Longyang Station, there is a monitored queue for taxis next to the parking lot. When you pass the turnstile, exit to the left and look for signs for taxis. There will be an escalator down to the street level. There always is an attendant there to monitor the activity. After dozens of trips, I have never been ripped off by any of the taxis there. Avoid the ones trying to pick you up curbside.[/QUOTE]Actually it's not that bad. I've been using taxi from & to random destinations pretty much every day in the 18 months I've been living in Shanghai so far. Never had a pricing problem and only like 5 times the driver did not know where to go. Just ignore the touts & that's it. It's also useful to get a jiaotong card, because that takes the cash payment out of the process.

(but maybe I am a bit biased because I come from Eastern Europe where the taxi drivers are a real nightmare)

Just popped into G18 yesterday afternoon. Lineup was ok but not great. None of the previous mentioned girls. So I took number 53 and then 90 joined for the cleanup routine. I decided to take both which turned out to be a mistake. 53 was much more into it than 90.

90 was pretty timid (suprised considering she's been around for 8 years) and I ended up just focusing more on 53. 53 was a bit more keen on providing a good experience even though her acting skills are a bit on the poor side. I did appreciate the effort. She also provided me with some interesting conversation in between pops.

Where is the Shanghai hotpot restaurant? Is it a little further south from G18?

[QUOTE=Koala Bare]Gentlemen,

Yes G18 is open again. It was definately shut earlier on this week but a few days ago the doors opened. Tonight the dude at the door quoted me 880. I'm on a budget so am not yet able to partake.

Another option is further on down the road, in the same building as the Shanghai No 1 Hotpot restaurant. Walk down the covered alley (yeah it was a bit scary but there are huge signs in Chinese and Japanese advertising a Sauna), and get into the elevator. A gentleman confirmed my intentions and led me to the internet cafe/game centre where there is a special entrance to the sauna. Was quoted 650 for full service and 750 for VIP service (a nicer room it seems).

Will write a report when I give either of them a go.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Eu Expat] It's also useful to get a jiaotong card, because that takes the cash payment out of the process.[/QUOTE]About the transportation card - I often have to start shouting "Ka! Ka!" (my poor Chinese for 'card') before the driver stops, otherwise they have been known to throw the meter and say 'Sorry, only cash now.' (or the Chinese equivalent, I should say.)

Has this happened to anyone? Is the card only legal taxi tender before a certain point in the flip of a switch, or (as I suspect) just a sneaky way to pocket some RMB?

Can someone elaborate a bit more on the card?

How does it work, where can it be purchased?

I assume it is pre-paid, how is it "cashed" by the taxi driver?

Thanks in advance

(I go to SH once/twice a year, so not being resident I ask the "experts")

[QUOTE=Bionicman]Can someone elaborate a bit more on the card?

How does it work, where can it be purchased?

I assume it is pre-paid, how is it "cashed" by the taxi driver?

Thanks in advance

(I go to SH once/twice a year, so not being resident I ask the "experts")[/QUOTE]You can buy them in most of the subway stations for 50RMB deposit. Can be used on bus, taxi, subway, etc. Easy peasy.

[QUOTE=Cv7346]So apparently my post was not helpful last time, let me try again to see if this one would be any good.

Went to the joint here on Friday 1AM after reading an old post from long time ago. This sauna/bath place is located in a hotel tucked away in the middle of a long strip of road. Pretty hard to find at night.

Went in, service was alright and was served immediately to the shower room. After taking shower, I was lead to a room and a line of very limited girls showed up. There were only 6 to choose from but all were quite mediocre (all around 5-6) I asked for more but was told those are the only ones still working. Chose number 405 because she had a large rack and a sweet smile. She led me up to a room upstairs and we did our business. She began the routine with the water sucking all around my back and sliding her tits on me. She progressed to a BJ and fucked her. She was alright, looked like she worked hard for me but she just wasn't that good. Her body wasn't as slim as I had imagined.

Anyway, pretty disappointing rookie experience. Total damage was 680, I don't think I'll go there again. Will try G18 this weekend.[/QUOTE]Absolutely! and my sincere apologies, somehow I answered the wrong post by someone just asking are the saunas open and normal, when all the psots said they are closed.

So sorry for that and keep posting!

FA

Went to the Wynn KTV on the Bund a couple of days ago. Had really high hopes as it's supposed to be really high class and exclusive, and within a yard that has some military as guards. The crowd was older businessmen but very KTV savvy so it ensured a fun environment, but the women were experienced (mid 20s) Shanghai girls that know what they're doing, a bit older than the typical ones in Guangdong, not particularly better than BBS girls, and really damn expensive. I guess the place is worth going to if you're starving for some KTV action, or have never fucked a Shanghai girl, but I think there's much value for money even in this expensive mongering city.

[QUOTE=Ira Johnson]About the transportation card. I often have to start shouting "Ka! Ka! " (my poor Chinese for 'card') before the driver stops, otherwise they have been known to throw the meter and say 'Sorry, only cash now. ' (or the Chinese equivalent, I should say.)

Has this happened to anyone? Is the card only legal taxi tender before a certain point in the flip of a switch, or (as I suspect) just a sneaky way to pocket some RMB?[/QUOTE]It has not happened to me yet. But usually tell the driver along the way that I will be using the card (plus I'm still a very young looking guy, so they think I may be a student or someone like that and expect I will be using it). You can tell the driver in advance "wo you jiao tong ka" or "wo yao yong jiao tong ka" (just basic Chinese, no fancy grammar) to let him know.

To answer the card purchase question the other guy had. The easiest thing would be to go to a subway station, go to the manned ticket office, hand over a 100RMB bill and say "wo yao jiao tong ka" (again, I kept it very simple so anyone can say that). They seem to have a stack of prepaid cards for 100RMB (deposit included), so the whole purchase is very fast. To top up an existing card or check the credit, just use the big blue machine next to ticket machines in subway, it can be switched to English.

[QUOTE=Da Dicknotist]Went to the Wynn KTV on the Bund a couple of days ago. Had really high hopes as it's supposed to be really high class and exclusive, and within a yard that has some military as guards. The crowd was older businessmen but very KTV savvy so it ensured a fun environment, but the women were experienced (mid 20s) Shanghai girls that know what they're doing, a bit older than the typical ones in Guangdong, not particularly better than BBS girls, and really damn expensive. I guess the place is worth going to if you're starving for some KTV action, or have never fucked a Shanghai girl, but I think there's much value for money even in this expensive mongering city.[/QUOTE]I wonder what is the best city in China I can go/fly for the best mongering experience for an English speaking guy who likes GFE and does not require real sophisticated service? I am trying to find an alternative to Thailand so I do not have to leave the country as I will have only a few days next week. I would try nude KTV, but it seems too expensive for one poor me.

You may PM me if you have advice and ideas. It will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Y

Cost is 20 RMB. That is what I paid. Available in any subway station. Then you add how many RMB you want on the card for transportation itself. Can be used on any subway, bus and taxi. Taxi's prefer cash but they will take the card. You can add RMB to it at any subway station. I don't know know if you can return the card or not. I need mine every couple of days. Beats trying to use cash all the time.

[QUOTE=Blacklisted]You can buy them in most of the subway stations for 50RMB deposit. Can be used on bus, taxi, subway, etc. Easy peasy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blacklisted]You can buy them in most of the subway stations for 50RMB deposit. Can be used on bus, taxi, subway, etc. Easy peasy.[/QUOTE]Charge them at any subway station or in an Alldays. Just wave it at the person behind the glass or I the store with 100RMB (or whatever you want to put on it) and yep, as BL says, easy peasy, nicely charged up.

Drivers normally ask you if you want to pay cash or card. To avoid Ira's problem, just wave it at him at the beginnign of the journey. No excuses for him then.

They can be used in many places. Some girls will give you a blow job if you waved it past their left breast. A bargain at 30RMB (they are set to local pricing). Just don't try inserting it in the slot. They get grumpy then and will demand extra cash.

WGS

My first post. I'm not much of a player but am having fun with the massage/HE routine in China. This is a great forum with LOTS of great info. Thanks for sharing.

Was at the Hilton a few months ago and, after drinking a little too much, picked up a SW on the way back to the hotel for a massage and maybe a little more. It was about 10 pm. I got undressed and she started giving me a crappy massage and asked if I wanted FS. By that time, I wasn't really that interested any more and didn't want to spend a lot so we ended up going around and around about the price. I ended up just telling her to leave after about an hour in the room.

I got a call at about 2 am from hotel security who told me that the police wanted to talk to me. They came up and asked about the girl in my room and the money I gave her and wanted to know what we did. I told them a little and then summed it up with, "no sex, no sex. " They wanted me to get dressed and go with them or give them my passport to take to the station, but were satisfied with a Xerox copy of my passport. Later, I found condoms in my bathroom and ditched them in case they came back.

The next day they came back with a statement for me to sign (detailing what I said the night before), which I did after the hotel security guy translated it for me, and wanted 500 RMB for the girl who supposedly was arrested and will be in jail for 6 months. The money was to make up for her being in jail and not earning her livelihood, or something like that. I gave them the money and they left.

They never told me what law I broke. The nearest I could come up with after talking to the security guy was that I had a girl in my room after the guest-in-the-room curfew of 10 pm (or 11 pm). They caught her on the way out the front door and watched the hotel security camera video to find me. It doesn't make much sense to me since I had a girl from Tongren Lu in my room at 2 am one time before and she even registered at the front desk with an ID on the way up to the room.

Now, I'm real gun shy about having a girl in my room or going to a massage parlor or sauna. I know there's always a risk of LE showing up, but is there a reason to be paranoid? I want to try some of the places you guys have written about but I'm starting out a little chicken.

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[QUOTE=Ru1992]Just popped into G18 yesterday afternoon. Lineup was ok but not great. None of the previous mentioned girls. So I took number 53 and then 90 joined for the cleanup routine. I decided to take both which turned out to be a mistake. 53 was much more into it than 90.

90 was pretty timid (suprised considering she's been around for 8 years) and I ended up just focusing more on 53. 53 was a bit more keen on providing a good experience even though her acting skills are a bit on the poor side. I did appreciate the effort. She also provided me with some interesting conversation in between pops.

Where is the Shanghai hotpot restaurant? Is it a little further south from G18?[/QUOTE]Walk south down Urumuqi Lu and turn left at Nanjing Lu. The building is on the corner and the address is 1856 Nanjing Lu. There is a big "Shangahi No 1 Restaurant" sign you can see from the photo. You can also just see the sauna sign in the covered alley way. Walk into the alley and get the lift to 4F where the internet cafe is, as soon as I got into the lift someone with a walkie talkie queried my intentions, I suppose you will get the same. Good luck and write up a report if you get to score.

Manhattan was very much alive and kicking Thursday evening last week. Plenty of Phillipinas eager for attention and a few Vietnamese ladies. Managed to get a very sexy Phillipina for 600 for the night.

Any ideas of where the business will move after the closure of TRL?

[QUOTE=Haoli]My first post. I'm not much of a player but am having fun with the massage/HE routine in China. This is a great forum with LOTS of great info. Thanks for sharing.

Was at the Hilton a few months ago and, after drinking a little too much, picked up a SW on the way back to the hotel for a massage and maybe a little more. It was about 10 pm. I got undressed and she started giving me a crappy massage and asked if I wanted FS. By that time, I wasn't really that interested any more and didn't want to spend a lot so we ended up going around and around about the price. I ended up just telling her to leave after about an hour in the room.

I got a call at about 2 am from hotel security who told me that the police wanted to talk to me. They came up and asked about the girl in my room and the money I gave her and wanted to know what we did. I told them a little and then summed it up with, "no sex, no sex. " They wanted me to get dressed and go with them or give them my passport to take to the station, but were satisfied with a Xerox copy of my passport. Later, I found condoms in my bathroom and ditched them in case they came back.

The next day they came back with a statement for me to sign (detailing what I said the night before), which I did after the hotel security guy translated it for me, and wanted 500 RMB for the girl who supposedly was arrested and will be in jail for 6 months. The money was to make up for her being in jail and not earning her livelihood, or something like that. I gave them the money and they left.

They never told me what law I broke. The nearest I could come up with after talking to the security guy was that I had a girl in my room after the guest-in-the-room curfew of 10 pm (or 11 pm). They caught her on the way out the front door and watched the hotel security camera video to find me. It doesn't make much sense to me since I had a girl from Tongren Lu in my room at 2 am one time before and she even registered at the front desk with an ID on the way up to the room.

Now, I'm real gun shy about having a girl in my room or going to a massage parlor or sauna. I know there's always a risk of LE showing up, but is there a reason to be paranoid? I want to try some of the places you guys have written about but I'm starting out a little chicken.

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I've seen people stopped, (as I am walking in with my girl), and they have to show an ID. One night my Filipino friend had too much to drink, and was staggering by the elevator, and the security guy actually opened the door for me.

I stay there alot, so maybe they just don't bother me.

[QUOTE=Haoli]My first post. I'm not much of a player but am having fun with the massage/HE routine in China. This is a great forum with LOTS of great info. Thanks for sharing.

Was at the Hilton a few months ago and, after drinking a little too much, picked up a SW on the way back to the hotel for a massage and maybe a little more. It was about 10 pm. I got undressed and she started giving me a crappy massage and asked if I wanted FS. By that time, I wasn't really that interested any more and didn't want to spend a lot so we ended up going around and around about the price. I ended up just telling her to leave after about an hour in the room.

I got a call at about 2 am from hotel security who told me that the police wanted to talk to me. They came up and asked about the girl in my room and the money I gave her and wanted to know what we did. I told them a little and then summed it up with, "no sex, no sex. " They wanted me to get dressed and go with them or give them my passport to take to the station, but were satisfied with a Xerox copy of my passport. Later, I found condoms in my bathroom and ditched them in case they came back.

The next day they came back with a statement for me to sign (detailing what I said the night before), which I did after the hotel security guy translated it for me, and wanted 500 RMB for the girl who supposedly was arrested and will be in jail for 6 months. The money was to make up for her being in jail and not earning her livelihood, or something like that. I gave them the money and they left.

They never told me what law I broke. The nearest I could come up with after talking to the security guy was that I had a girl in my room after the guest-in-the-room curfew of 10 pm (or 11 pm). They caught her on the way out the front door and watched the hotel security camera video to find me. It doesn't make much sense to me since I had a girl from Tongren Lu in my room at 2 am one time before and she even registered at the front desk with an ID on the way up to the room.

Now, I'm real gun shy about having a girl in my room or going to a massage parlor or sauna. I know there's always a risk of LE showing up, but is there a reason to be paranoid? I want to try some of the places you guys have written about but I'm starting out a little chicken.

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I've stayed at the Hilton many times (with many girls) over the years and have never experienced or heard of this type of thing happening. Are you sure they were real police? The whole thing sounds suspicious (especially accepting a passport copy in lieu of a trip to the station) like some kind of scam. At least it only cost you 500RMB.....

Just don't smell right to me.

[QUOTE=Mike921]I've stayed at the Hilton many times (with many girls) over the years and have never experienced or heard of this type of thing happening. Are you sure they were real police? The whole thing sounds suspicious (especially accepting a passport copy in lieu of a trip to the station) like some kind of scam. At least it only cost you 500RMB.....

Just don't smell right to me.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I thought of that. They were in uniform both at 2 am and at 11 am and were accompanied by the hotel security chief so I ended up thinking they were legit. You're right it could have been worse.

Strange story. You invited a SW to your hotel room, did not have sex, did not pay her and then kicked her out. Later the "police" come to your room and make you give them 500 RMB for an after curfew guest. Corrupt hotel security working with the hookers? Corrupt police working with the hookers? Girl's friends taking advantage of a gullible foreigner?[QUOTE=Haoli]My first post. I'm not much of a player but am having fun with the massage/HE routine in China. This is a great forum with LOTS of great info. Thanks for sharing.

Was at the Hilton a few months ago and, after drinking a little too much, picked up a SW on the way back to the hotel for a massage and maybe a little more. It was about 10 pm. I got undressed and she started giving me a crappy massage and asked if I wanted FS. By that time, I wasn't really that interested any more and didn't want to spend a lot so we ended up going around and around about the price. I ended up just telling her to leave after about an hour in the room.

I got a call at about 2 am from hotel security who told me that the police wanted to talk to me. They came up and asked about the girl in my room and the money I gave her and wanted to know what we did. I told them a little and then summed it up with, "no sex, no sex. " They wanted me to get dressed and go with them or give them my passport to take to the station, but were satisfied with a Xerox copy of my passport. Later, I found condoms in my bathroom and ditched them in case they came back.

The next day they came back with a statement for me to sign (detailing what I said the night before), which I did after the hotel security guy translated it for me, and wanted 500 RMB for the girl who supposedly was arrested and will be in jail for 6 months. The money was to make up for her being in jail and not earning her livelihood, or something like that. I gave them the money and they left.

They never told me what law I broke. The nearest I could come up with after talking to the security guy was that I had a girl in my room after the guest-in-the-room curfew of 10 pm (or 11 pm). They caught her on the way out the front door and watched the hotel security camera video to find me. It doesn't make much sense to me since I had a girl from Tongren Lu in my room at 2 am one time before and she even registered at the front desk with an ID on the way up to the room.

Now, I'm real gun shy about having a girl in my room or going to a massage parlor or sauna. I know there's always a risk of LE showing up, but is there a reason to be paranoid? I want to try some of the places you guys have written about but I'm starting out a little chicken.

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[QUOTE=South Gate]Strange story. You invited a SW to your hotel room, did not have sex, did not pay her and then kicked her out. Later the "police" come to your room and make you give them 500 RMB for an after curfew guest. Corrupt hotel security working with the hookers? Corrupt police working with the hookers? Girl's friends taking advantage of a gullible foreigner?[/QUOTE]I am more suspicious about this event. As I stay at the Hilton all the time, and this does not seem right. Plus the fact " I found condoms in the bathroom, and ditched them. ".

Hilton does have a package of condoms available to buy. They are in the mini bar, not the bathroom.? Smells funny.

[QUOTE=South Gate]Strange story. You invited a SW to your hotel room, did not have sex, did not pay her and then kicked her out. Later the "police" come to your room and make you give them 500 RMB for an after curfew guest. Corrupt hotel security working with the hookers? Corrupt police working with the hookers? Girl's friends taking advantage of a gullible foreigner?[/QUOTE]Abbreviated story. She came to the room for a massage for 200 RMB, wanted 600 for FS and wouldn't take the 400 I offered. I paid her the 200 before she left. Corrupt? Gullible? Probably yes on both counts.

And you wonder why laowei have a bad reputation? You aren't a player. Go back from where you came from and take your baggage with you.

[QUOTE=Haoli]My first post. I'm not much of a player but am having fun with the massage/HE routine in China. This is a great forum with LOTS of great info. Thanks for sharing.

Was at the Hilton a few months ago and, after drinking a little too much, picked up a SW on the way back to the hotel for a massage and maybe a little more. It was about 10 pm. I got undressed and she started giving me a crappy massage and asked if I wanted FS. By that time, I wasn't really that interested any more and didn't want to spend a lot so we ended up going around and around about the price. I ended up just telling her to leave after about an hour in the room.

I got a call at about 2 am from hotel security who told me that the police wanted to talk to me. They came up and asked about the girl in my room and the money I gave her and wanted to know what we did. I told them a little and then summed it up with, "no sex, no sex. " They wanted me to get dressed and go with them or give them my passport to take to the station, but were satisfied with a Xerox copy of my passport. Later, I found condoms in my bathroom and ditched them in case they came back.

The next day they came back with a statement for me to sign (detailing what I said the night before), which I did after the hotel security guy translated it for me, and wanted 500 RMB for the girl who supposedly was arrested and will be in jail for 6 months. The money was to make up for her being in jail and not earning her livelihood, or something like that. I gave them the money and they left.

They never told me what law I broke. The nearest I could come up with after talking to the security guy was that I had a girl in my room after the guest-in-the-room curfew of 10 pm (or 11 pm). They caught her on the way out the front door and watched the hotel security camera video to find me. It doesn't make much sense to me since I had a girl from Tongren Lu in my room at 2 am one time before and she even registered at the front desk with an ID on the way up to the room.

Now, I'm real gun shy about having a girl in my room or going to a massage parlor or sauna. I know there's always a risk of LE showing up, but is there a reason to be paranoid? I want to try some of the places you guys have written about but I'm starting out a little chicken.

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[QUOTE=joyride23]Manhattan was very much alive and kicking Thursday evening last week. Plenty of Phillipinas eager for attention and a few Vietnamese ladies. Managed to get a very sexy Phillipina for 600 for the night.

Any ideas of where the business will move after the closure of TRL?[/QUOTE]


Many of the bars, and some new ones, are moving to Da Tong. It is located on Julu lu, 158, not far from RuiJin lu. It's underground, sort of (open air but below ground). Was built to be a mall, so it's huge, complete with very slippery floors as Chinese just love for reasons that non-Chinese will never understand (I believe it's so they can hose off the blood, vomit, etc easily).

There's a big food court and will be some shopping, wine stores, etc. there as well. Will change the dynamic a bit I suppose.

The bars should start opening there around Feb 2010, provided there is no shutdown of that place too - perhaps the new layout underground and the revamped image will help preserve it, unlike Maoming lu, Julu lu, and now Tongren lu.

-B-

Pure amateur hour, all around.

Scams of this kind happen, but usually not in a 5star. They usually cost way more than 500 RMB if they happen. Bloody amateurs on the scammers' part.

If something like this should happen in a 5star, you should ask the security guy and the "police" to remain in the room, then reach for the phone and demand the immediate presence of the manager. The least that will happen after that is that the security guard is out of a job. If they are really vigilant, security guy and "police" will end up in jail. Amateur hour on the guest's part.

Happened two months ago and is posted now? Aha.

Girl was apprehended when LEAVING the premises? Oh brother

Needed to look at the tape instead of just asking the girl for the room number? Yeah sure.

6 months in jail for not registering? Gimme a break.

500 RMB to make up for 6 months in the slammer? Who are you kidding?

Security guard and "police" appeared TWICE, consecutive days, and all for 500?

Management was never informed or involved?

Copy of the passport? The hotel has already made one.


This whole story stinks. One post wonder, bad plot. I don't believe a word. There is one thing I cannot figure out: Why?

PS: And this is recommended as a report of distinction? The robot that makes these recommendations needs some WD-40











[QUOTE=Haoli]My first post. I'm not much of a player but am having fun with the massage/HE routine in China. This is a great forum with LOTS of great info. Thanks for sharing.

Was at the Hilton a few months ago and, after drinking a little too much, picked up a SW on the way back to the hotel for a massage and maybe a little more. It was about 10 pm. I got undressed and she started giving me a crappy massage and asked if I wanted FS. By that time, I wasn't really that interested any more and didn't want to spend a lot so we ended up going around and around about the price. I ended up just telling her to leave after about an hour in the room.

I got a call at about 2 am from hotel security who told me that the police wanted to talk to me. They came up and asked about the girl in my room and the money I gave her and wanted to know what we did. I told them a little and then summed it up with, "no sex, no sex. " They wanted me to get dressed and go with them or give them my passport to take to the station, but were satisfied with a Xerox copy of my passport. Later, I found condoms in my bathroom and ditched them in case they came back.

The next day they came back with a statement for me to sign (detailing what I said the night before), which I did after the hotel security guy translated it for me, and wanted 500 RMB for the girl who supposedly was arrested and will be in jail for 6 months. The money was to make up for her being in jail and not earning her livelihood, or something like that. I gave them the money and they left.

They never told me what law I broke. The nearest I could come up with after talking to the security guy was that I had a girl in my room after the guest-in-the-room curfew of 10 pm (or 11 pm). They caught her on the way out the front door and watched the hotel security camera video to find me. It doesn't make much sense to me since I had a girl from Tongren Lu in my room at 2 am one time before and she even registered at the front desk with an ID on the way up to the room.

Now, I'm real gun shy about having a girl in my room or going to a massage parlor or sauna. I know there's always a risk of LE showing up, but is there a reason to be paranoid? I want to try some of the places you guys have written about but I'm starting out a little chicken.

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[QUOTE=Mark17]I am more suspicious about this event. As I stay at the Hilton all the time, and this does not seem right. Plus the fact " I found condoms in the bathroom, and ditched them. ".

Hilton does have a package of condoms available to buy. They are in the mini bar, not the bathroom.? Smells funny.[/QUOTE]

You've got that right.

[QUOTE=Haoli]Yeah, I thought of that. They were in uniform both at 2 am and at 11 am and were accompanied by the hotel security chief so I ended up thinking they were legit. You're right it could have been worse.[/QUOTE]

You are contradicting yourself more and more. Before, the "police" showed up at 2am and then the next day. Now, it's 11am and 2am. Uniform? Half of the country is running around in uniform, down to the sauna girls. Do you you know how to discern a rent-a-cop from real police?

[QUOTE=Zhuren]You are contradicting yourself more and more. Before, the "police" showed up at 2am and then the next day. Now, it's 11am and 2am. Uniform? Half of the country is running around in uniform, down to the sauna girls. Do you you know how to discern a rent-a-cop from real police?[/QUOTE]Well thanks for the warm welcome to ISG. How about giving the new guy a break? Sorry I didn't make the post right after it occurred, but it happened two months before I even found ISG. I left out all the extra details that might address all your suspicions to keep the post short and I didn't treat her badly as you seem to think.

No, it doesn't seem right. I must've been scammed and didn't handle it as well as you would have, but I've never had Chinese cops in my hotel room at 2 am after having too much to drink and after having a girl in my room. The implication was that they were ready to haul me away for having illegal sex with a SW in my room. I didn't know about the condoms for sale in the mini bar, I thought they were left on the counter as part of a set up for the cops. Again, I had too much to drink and it was 2 am. Regarding my contradiction, they showed up at 2 am and then again later the same morning at 11 am to collect their fee, thus both times are in the am.

I'm an amateur for sure and you told me so. Thanks. If there's a next time I'll handle it better.

[QUOTE=Zhuren] The robot that makes these recommendations needs some WD-40[/QUOTE]

You got the WD40 part right... on more than just this posting!

On its face, if we assume this is a true story, then the guy was scammed. The girl could have told the police she was not paid and promised to give them a cut. Though, yes 500rmb is a little low for such a scam.

Oh well, such is life and this is an open and anonymous forum.

MAB

on the lighter side of the news:
in pudong today, went to ba dong (as it would turn out - for the last time)

did not request the soapie (rmb800) option, but was taken there anyway. what the hell, it's been awhile, no problem. two girls in the lineup today (they usually just send one to the room). picked a small one with a big (for her body) rack.

name: no number or name, sorry
hometown: none given
age: ~22
body: 7/10 petite
tits: 7/10 ~34b (doesn't like licked/sucked)
kissing: not allowed
soapie: 3/10
massage: 2/10
ar: none
bbbj: none
bj: 2/10
fj: 3/10
gfe: 0/10
pussy: ok
atwg (actual time with girl - phone call to when i left): 40 mins
damage: 800
rtf: girl - no, place - no

summary: young girl with limited skill and too much 'can't touch this, can't do that'. tried to upsell me to another girl (1300), i agreed, but when she arrived (a solid 4 by the way) the price jumped to 1600 - so i declined. i left before time was up, just wasn't happening for me (didn't make a scene, just told her i'm done and got dressed). place has been going down hill for some time now, definitely was my last visit. gave papa-san the thumbs down, xiaojie bu hao - and he could care less. he's probably making enough ripping off the folks who stay at the courtyard and doesn't need my business......

undaunted, i went on to sarcosa (where i should have went in the first place):

name: #185
hometown: guanxxi
age: ~24
body: 7/10 slim
tits: 6/10 ~32b (nice)
kissing: not allowed (i'll never understand how a girl can give a catbath, the water slurpee thing, then fuck your ass with her tongue - and won't kiss...)
massage: 5/10
ar: 5/10
bbbj: 7/10 (almost blew)
fj: 7/10
gfe: 4/10
pussy: ok
atwg (actual time with girl - phone call to phone call): 80 mins
damage: 550
rtf: yes

summary: good service by a cute syt. tits were a little small, but i liked them none the less. can't beat it for the price.

Went to a place couple weeks back, that was a cross between a sauna and a bbs (but leaning much more towards bbs). It's in Hongqiao, close to intersection of shuicheng rd and maotai rd. It has a sign reading "cheers" placed on top of the entrance.

Anyways shower, go upstairs (almost like an attic), a lineup of 4 girls, all average but decent looking.
Room is tiny. The girl performs a routine like at any other sauna, except it has a much more of a bbs type of feel (if that makes any sense). Total 400

Decided to go with a change of pace and try a massage place. I saw a few on Dongchang road and since its convenient from number 2 line, I thought I would give it a shot. I got out of the subway and went straight across from the GM dealer.

Walked down and didn't see anything jump out til I got to the last massage place on the left hand side. Close to the corner. I saw a girl practically busting out of her top. Figured this might be good. Her number is 19

I have to say the massage was pretty good and the body slide, toes, and grinding that she did with the oil was pretty good. About as close to FS as you can go without getting it. She got me to pay for 2 hours and a 1 hundred tip. So 500 all together which is not cheap but I had a good time.

I have gone to other place in Shanghai by Jing An Temple for HE which did not really pressure for upsell or tips. Girls nice and friendly but not that great looking and certainly didn't grind like number 19. But I appreciate the low pressure and nice experience. So I may try another massage place on Dongchang just to see if they put on the pressure and if they also have similar massage style

I actually got call-in service info from a hongkong forum, which of couse is in Chinese. Like here, people exchange experience and compare service providers. But I rarely see it discussed here. Just wanted to share some of my experience.

There are many massage call-in service in shanghai that you can contact through cell phone or QQ (Chinese MSN), some has MSN account too. Typical drill is 260 RMB/1 hr or 1. 5hr of legitimate massage with a happy ending. You pay taxi if after 10pm. The rest is not through agent, but up to you and the girl, but for most agent's most girls, they do FS at about 800rmb/1. 5 hr. You call or leave message in MSN/QQ, leave address, hotel phone number, room number, time. They will call your hotel number to confirm you are where you said you were, and then typically come within 30 mins within SH central area. Some agent might not communicate directly with you regarding FS though. But you also have to chance to get a massage at 260 rmb before deciding if you like to girl to ask FS.

Girls are typically not as skilled as in "professionally managed" places, nor as pretty, but you do have the convenience of in-room service, and girls are much less like work girl typically. The girls are also much less exploited than in establishment, where typically more than half you paid goes to the boss. In this type of service, agent only gets a fix amount of introduction fee, and the rest goes to girls' pocket directly. The girls also have the right to take a call or not, not like in "establishment" where girls are more like forced labor.

I used a couple of such services, some recommendations from the HK forum. The quality I would say varies, and depends on individuals. Not as assued as chain store, but you might get really taste that you can't get in burger king. Some agents are actually follow good business contact, and actively seek customers' feedback, and tries to assure a good experience within their power. They do not directly control the girls.

I am not sure how many of them can communicate in english, most likely girls do not. But as we all know here in ISG, language is never a barrier, is it?

I am not sure if it is appropriate to leave contact here, admin please remove if it is not.

A couple of agents that I used:

MSN Messenger ID: Tele: 1#76467##19, replace # with the number under it on your keyboard. I like this very much because of how much the agent cares about customers. But the girls do varies a lot individually.

Another Tel: 1#818#82972. Used once, pretty lousy altitude that day. But HK forum has some good comments. You can say you got this info from a "laowai" forum.

There are others that I have not used, PM if you want to try. But I only know these two who have MSN ID.

I actually got call-in service info from a hongkong forum, which of couse is in Chinese. Like here, people exchange experience and compare service providers. But I rarely see it discussed here. Just wanted to share some of my experience.

There are many massage call-in service in shanghai that you can contact through cell phone or QQ (Chinese MSN), some has MSN account too. Typical drill is 260 RMB/1 hr or 1. 5hr of legitimate massage with a happy ending. You pay taxi if after 10pm. The rest is not through agent, but up to you and the girl, but for most agent's most girls, they do FS at about 800rmb/1. 5 hr. You call or leave message in MSN/QQ, leave address, hotel phone number, room number, time. They will call your hotel number to confirm you are where you said you were, and then typically come within 30 mins within SH central area. Some agent might not communicate directly with you regarding FS though. But you also have to chance to get a massage at 260 rmb before deciding if you like to girl to ask FS.

Girls are typically not as skilled as in "professionally managed" places, nor as pretty, but you do have the convenience of in-room service, and girls are much less like work girl typically. The girls are also much less exploited than in establishment, where typically more than half you paid goes to the boss. In this type of service, agent only gets a fix amount of introduction fee, and the rest goes to girls' pocket directly. The girls also have the right to take a call or not, not like in "establishment" where girls are more like forced labor.

I used a couple of such services, some recommendations from the HK forum. The quality I would say varies, and depends on individuals. Not as assued as chain store, but you might get really taste that you can't get in burger king. Some agents are actually follow good business contact, and actively seek customers' feedback, and tries to assure a good experience within their power. They do not directly control the girls.

I am not sure how many of them can communicate in english, most likely girls do not. But as we all know here in ISG, language is never a barrier, is it?

I am not sure if it is appropriate to leave contact here, admin please remove if it is not.

A couple of agents that I used:

MSN Messenger ID: [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue] Tele: 1#76467##19, replace # with the number under it on your keyboard. I like this very much because of how much the agent cares about customer. But the girls do varies a lot individually.

Another Tel: 1#818#82972, MSN: [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]. Used once, pretty lousy altitude that day. But HK forum has some good comments.

There are others that I have not used, PM if you want to try. But I only know these two who have MSN ID.

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[QUOTE=Mike666]I'd add that you should tell the front desk people you want girl #61 (or whatever number). The girl will definitely get a bigger cut of the money. Once you get into a routine of picking her number up front (assuming you like to frequent the same girl), you can expect much better service.[/QUOTE]It doesn't always work out best to ask for ONE particular girl at sauna when you check in, especially if she is already busy with another customer when you get there.

I had a perfect 10/10 experience at Sacrosa with a young enthusiastic GFE beauty, so decided to request her on my next visit. Was told to wait about 30 minutes (more like 45 minutes). And when she was ushered into my room she looked a little frazzled and not too happy. I imagine its difficult for them to transition from the "heat of the moment passion" to a new customer in just a few minutes. This second session with her wasn't nearly as nice as our first.

Now when I visit Sacrosa or 999, I have a list of 4 or 5 beauties and look for them in the lineup. They are normally eager to serve and have had a little break between customers. After all, these girls work 12-14 hour shifts each day.

Pinaster,

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Let me try another posting that might not be quite as controversial as my last one.

Just got back from Jinlin Yangshengtang Massage. It was easy to find and was a great recommendation-just as Gao Xing and Walter Mitty described. I was there at 1 pm and opted for the 100 minute men's sexual health massage for 338 RMB. It was nice not to be hassled for more before and during the massage and I tipped the girl 50 RMB. Before I left, they gave me a 50 RMB coupon for next time. Excellent!

I was taken downstairs to the dim room with the shower and got undressed as I waited for No. 5 to come in. She verified the service to be performed and must've noticed that I had just taken a shower since she didn't suggest I take one until after we were finished.

She gave me a great oil massage but didn't leave much room me to touch her except her lower legs and feet. She liked it when I rubbed her feet while she was on the table rubbing me. I don't speak Chinese and she didn't speak English so there wasn't very much conversation but she seemed to like it when I spoke to her in Spanish.

Like in the other postings, she sat on the table with my legs on top of hers both when I was on my front and back so she had better access the big guy and the boys. She spent plenty of time with them and was very gentle, being careful not to cause an eruption too quickly. The prostate stuff/ass play was a new experience and was quite nice along with the prolonged HJ.

I echo the recommendation for this place, well worth it.

If you click with the girl get her qq number and cell number. Keep in touch with her, like every other day or so, let her know when you plan to see her again, next week or whatever day. It becomes a date. The only time I try a new girl is when my repeats are on 'vacation'. Depends on whether you want 'new' pussy or repeats. I like repeats -- I know what I'm getting and she knows what you like. The sex can be as good as sex can get. I've seen one girl for over a year -- another about 6 months. Different saunas. And yes, they do talk to each other. And they can become jealous.

[QUOTE=Krisowens555]It doesn't always work out best to ask for ONE particular girl at sauna when you check in, especially if she is already busy with another customer when you get there.

I had a perfect 10/10 experience at Sacrosa with a young enthusiastic GFE beauty, so decided to request her on my next visit. Was told to wait about 30 minutes (more like 45 minutes). And when she was ushered into my room she looked a little frazzled and not too happy. I imagine its difficult for them to transition from the "heat of the moment passion" to a new customer in just a few minutes. This second session with her wasn't nearly as nice as our first.

Now when I visit Sacrosa or 999, I have a list of 4 or 5 beauties and look for them in the lineup. They are normally eager to serve and have had a little break between customers. After all, these girls work 12-14 hour shifts each day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Waldeck2]Pinaster,

You can't receive PM's. Set it up![/QUOTE]I did not realize the membership has expiration date. I just paid, don't know how long it takes to be effective.

[QUOTE=Haoli]Let me try another posting that might not be quite as controversial as my last one.

[/QUOTE]

Haoli, I appreciate your reports and sharing your scammed event. I know how it feels to be scammed and know you open yourself to criticism here. I've noticed it is much easier to receive criticism here from some, usually senior members who may not remember their earlier days. It can easily happen and being in a foreign country, not knowing the language and culture only adds to a stressful situation. Let's hope some of our Monday morning "sexperts" can understand and refrain from being too critical.

MD40

For those who haven't been there, it is easy to go to the wrong place. I prefer Malones early in the evening, or Zapatas (not far away from TRL). Both places there are lots of WG.

Last week at Manhattan was pretty hot, most girls charge between RMB1000-2000 before negotiating, but most will accept RMB800 even for LT. (too expensive. You can always pick up a SW outside for RMB200. ST).

Some big titted african girls there as well, one from the Ivory Coast and one from Ethiopia. Same prices for them, also one hot Colombian chick with silicone. As we do mind! One of the black girls squirts. Funny! She was though better looking with her clothes on. But those tits. Amazing. And natural!

Most girls haven't heard a word about closing this place, we'll C.

Judys was a disappointment, less people than before and def not top of the line.

As of this afternoon. They were busy. I think there must be a Chinese underground concerning saunas. Enjoy while it's open.

[QUOTE=Waldeck2]If you click with the girl get her qq number and cell number. Keep in touch with her, like every other day or so, let her know when you plan to see her again, next week or whatever day. It becomes a date. The only time I try a new girl is when my repeats are on 'vacation'. Depends on whether you want 'new' pussy or repeats. I like repeats -- I know what I'm getting and she knows what you like. The sex can be as good as sex can get. I've seen one girl for over a year -- another about 6 months. Different saunas. And yes, they do talk to each other. And they can become jealous.[/QUOTE]Just give them a message ahead or call, no problem. The girls and the management likes repeat customers

FA

I tried 1856 today. At first I got up to the 4th floor on my own and couldn't find anything. Then I come down and look some more and find the guy. So I realize you cannot get in the place without the guy calling ahead on walkie talkie.

I get in the place and its a small operation. A handful of girls. They tried to get me to pick two girls for 1000. I pick 156 and it turns out she only got to Shanghai a week ago. Her performance was a bit clumsy. So her being in Shanghai for a week doesn't suprise me. She was nice enough but not high up on the energy level.

The room was good and the staff is good too.

Price is not bad for 650 and convenient to the subway. May give it a shot with another girl next time. For a 1000, I might even try for two girls and see if I get lucky with one of them.

[QUOTE=Koala Bare]Walk south down Urumuqi Lu and turn left at Nanjing Lu. The building is on the corner and the address is 1856 Nanjing Lu. There is a big "Shangahi No 1 Restaurant" sign you can see from the photo. You can also just see the sauna sign in the covered alley way. Walk into the alley and get the lift to 4F where the internet cafe is, as soon as I got into the lift someone with a walkie talkie queried my intentions, I suppose you will get the same. Good luck and write up a report if you get to score.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jean You]Last week at Manhattan was pretty hot, ....Some big titted african girls there as well,...... also one hot Colombian chick .......Most girls haven't heard a word about closing this place, we'll C.[/QUOTE]Well done JL - concise report - exactly what the travelling western businessman requires.

I will be in SH on Wed dec 9 - will definitely be visiting Manhattan about 11pm - msg me if anybody wants to meet.

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Well done JL. Concise report. Exactly what the travelling western businessman requires.

I will be in SH on Wed dec 9. Will definitely be visiting Manhattan about 11pm. Msg me if anybody wants to meet.[/QUOTE]I'll be in town too. But busy with my Filipino friend (who I met a year ago in Manhattan.). From what I hear, the bars there have to move "sometime next year" so things should be the same for awhile.

with all the closures to bbs areas in the past, from the village to jing an, to even a bit more recent, zhi dan rd., does anyone know of any good areas (with relatively high concentration of bbs and decent girls for fs) that are still up and running? i know there are tons that are rep001tered throughout the city, but more so looking for an area so that one can walk around and do some window shopping.

also, i really miss the bj shops of the past (like the old factory and xuanhua rd). it was quick, cheap, and majority of the girls were above average, skilled and enthusiastic! would be great to find one of those gems if they are still around.

would be great if any members can help! if you guys are worried about posting due to le, please do pm me.

cheers,

bj

[QUOTE=Mark17]I'll be in town too. But busy with my Filipino friend (who I met a year ago in Manhattan.). From what I hear, the bars there have to move "sometime next year" so things should be the same for awhile.[/QUOTE]

That's not what I hear. Everyone I talked to there said 15th December is when it all shuts down on Tong Ren Lu.

[QUOTE=BJ Boy]That's not what I hear. Everyone I talked to there said 15th December is when it all shuts down on Tong Ren Lu.[/QUOTE]Some one mentioned Da Tong. There is definately 'activity' of a building kind going on down there at the moment. And also appears to be some kind of club. Not sure I fancy being 'underground' though at bars. Drunk people, underground, accidents happen. Or you read about them. Still, seem to be plenty of exits.

However, City Diner appears tohave shut. Pity, it was the only place where the bill stated you had paid for a 'Cock Refill'. I kid you not. Anyway, the building is very much being worked on and a lrge, bright red Judy's sign has appeared across the front.

Think it will be a case of wait and C. When it happens, it happens. And like bees to a honey pot we will know where to go.

However, having said that, if the standard of girls does not improve perhaps we will not. Friday and Saturday, many Phills, Vietnam, the odd Thai gril and usual mad assortment clustered around the door. Was there anyone I would go with (Manahtten)?

Friday

- one very attarctive Chinese girl: wanted 1000 'all night' and LT finished at 6am as she did not want to be seen walking home in her dress and heels the next day. Bless

- a hot vietnamese girl with big eyes and a tight red dress, but had gone off the idea by then

Saturday

- Said vietnamese girl but got a very firm 'Bye' from her. Ouch, business must be good. Had not been rude on Friday either.

The place also is suffering from sight seers syndrome. Guys bringing wives and gf's along for an oggle. Too busy, too many guys wasting the girls time (not my words). A change of scene may change the patrons a bit but it is unlikely to change the girls. Pity. We need some mongolains in Shanghai or some genuinely attactive SEA spinners. Definately time to go on the trawl from some freebies.

WGS

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[QUOTE=BJ Boy]That's not what I hear. Everyone I talked to there said 15th December is when it all shuts down on Tong Ren Lu.[/QUOTE]

That's the general belief, since all their leases come up around then. But no one knows for sure. My guess is there will still be a few open after Dec 15, but in any case the days of TRL are definitely numbered.

Booked rooms (Royal Meridien 789 NanjingLu) for a couple of Brits who were here selling some Chinese artifacts. They wanted to see some of the neighborhood, so I walked with them up a few side streets off NanjingLu. Ate soup noodles and xiaolongbao at a nice little place, 50 rmb for the 3 of us. They wanted a massage, so we went into a place. I said I'd get a massage but they were on their own.

I got a tall, light complected Liaoning girl who led me to a pretty clean room. I checked out the bed with my Walmart white led flashlight, and found a couple of wrinkles on the bedsheet and a long pubic hair. Asked for a change of bedding and towels, but the girl refused. I walked toward the door, and the girl relented and changed the sheet. She said if I wanted fs, she knew a provider. I told her to write the phone number down and checked her tits and twat. Massage OK. Nothing great. Girl left and I paid 80 rmb at the desk. Then I asked for the girl and gave her 20 rmb tip.
CG

Name: #123 (at least easy to remember)
Hometown: Shanghai
Age: ~26
Body: 6/10 (not much ass)
Tits: 6/10 ~32B
Kissing: not allowed
Massage: N/A (mostly the routine - catbath, slurpy thing, toe fuck, etc.)
AR: 5/10
BBBJ: 6/10
FJ: 4/10
GFE: 0/10
Pussy: Ok
ATWG (actual time with girl - phone call to phone call): 75 mins
Damage: 550
RTF: no

Summary: local (Shanghainese) girl, so striclty by the script. Usual blah, blah, blah about my size (which is average) and tried to not let me fully penetrate. She got up and dressed 2 seconds after I popped.....

[QUOTE=Mike921]Name: #123 (at least easy to remember)
Hometown: Shanghai
Age: ~26
Body: 6/10 (not much ass)
Tits: 6/10 ~32B
Kissing: not allowed
Massage: N/A (mostly the routine - catbath, slurpy thing, toe fuck, etc.)
AR: 5/10
BBBJ: 6/10
FJ: 4/10
GFE: 0/10
Pussy: Ok
ATWG (actual time with girl - phone call to phone call): 75 mins
Damage: 550
RTF
Summary: local (Shanghainese) girl, so striclty by the script. Usual blah, blah, blah about my size (which is average) and tried to not let me fully penetrate. She got up and dressed 2 seconds after I popped.....[/QUOTE]


I tried to go to Sacarosa today about 2:30 pm, got off the lift and was told "we are closed today, maybe open tomorrow". In the last three trips I have made to this place in the last month they have been closed twice. WTF!! Maybe I should try calling ahead....:-)
Amor Massage across the street from Eton on the recommendation of the board, and would agree, it was a great experience. No FS but worth the 200 yuan plus tip. The girl wanted 200 for the finish but I held "firm" at 100. I will go back to this place. It is convenient to the Pudong Metro stop and across the street from the Eton!

Latest word I have is Manhattan will close on Tongren Lu. Last day Dec 15th.

They will move, but have not announced a new location.

Tong Ren Lu @ Nanjing Lu. There used to be a restaurant called the "City Dinner". Now the building is under renovations. A "Judys" signage has appeared on the front of the building.

[QUOTE=Makeupaname]Tong Ren Lu @ Nanjing Lu. There used to be a restaurant called the "City Dinner". Now the building is under renovations. A "Judys" signage has appeared on the front of the building.[/QUOTE]
HUH??

And......??

SEAJ

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]HUH??

And......??

SEAJ[/QUOTE]

Judys is a freelancer bar in the main bar strip on TRL which supposedly is closing down in the very near future. It appears that Judys is just moving down the street, closer to Malones.

[QUOTE=Makeupaname]Judys is a freelancer bar in the main bar strip on TRL which supposedly is closing down in the very near future. It appears that Judys is just moving down the street, closer to Malones.[/QUOTE]
Oh OK - my bad!! And dense too I guess!!

Thanks

SEAJ

Golden 18 used to be a reliable address in SH. But recently, they had unannounced visitors. There were reports of closings and reopenings. Two days ago, we decided to check it out ourselves. On Arrival at 9:30p, we were told by two guys waiting in front of the building that the establishment is closed, but would open at 11:30pm. Weird. We elected rto take our business elsewhere.

Yesterday, a Chinese friend who frequents the same place called and inquired. He was given the same odd opening times. He was also told that it would be "too dangerous" to open earlier, due to a greater chance of visitors in uniform.

Security conscious patrons are advised to avoid the place, unless they like late night action and have a uniform fetish.

Read the FF, and cant find much on good incall providers. Any recommendations? Anyone have experience with:

[url]http://www.shanghaiescort-86.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Mark17]Latest word I have is Manhattan will close on Tongren Lu. Last day Dec 15th.

They will move, but have not announced a new location.[/QUOTE]


New location will be the bottom floor of former Mint on tong ren lu. I believe the others are also correct about new location of Judy's.

Seems this relocation is largely about leases expiring rather than purely the Expo or the construction across the street (though those are certainly factors).

anyway, seems bar life might not be totally dead in Shanghai after all. We'll see.

-B-

Last week I was in Shanghai for a short stay.

Thanks to all the ones who helped for direction to the place, I decided to check golden 18 (and compare the level of China to the one in Japan for such places)

I went there 3 times, from Sunday to Tuesday.

Sunday I went at around 11PM

On Monday, I went there at around 10, but as reported below, the guy at the entrance explained me that they would open from midnight only. So I came back at around quarter past 12

Same thing happened on Tuesday.

Sunday I had n. 28 Monday n. 12 and Wednesday n. 35

Basically all of them are really trained to perform the same way, so although I had 3 different girls, the service was almost the same.

28 Could speak a bit english, so I think that was the one I had the best impression of.

12 was ok, she was not so friendly (might be the language problem) so that was

35 was the nicest looking and the most professional but it was all to much as a automatic learned action with her. I almost had the impression of being with a mannequin sometimes (but a really sexy mannequin)

35 did do some extra service though, every time I blew (2 times), she would clean the shaft with a BBBJ, a first time for me and quite a turn on I must say.

So the service I received at G18 goes more or less like this:

Get in the shower room on the special chair, where a couple of minutes later another girl would come and both of them will start to clean you and eventually one would start a BBBJ. Then they will ask if you want 1 girl or both. Every time I refused, since I guessed 1 girl was enough and I was not sure I had enough cash on me (I would hate to explain that I do not have enough money in a country I do not speak the language. Especially in such place). After that the second girl would leave and then the mat play would start, lots of sucking, licking and rubbing, in a couple of position you have trouble understanding.

After that, action would continue on the bed with some additional whole body sucking with some hot water in their mouth for some strange sensation (never had this in Japan).

Then some hot cold BBBJ (never had that in Japan either) finally some extra BBBJ with some massage at the same time with a condom filled with warm water (another new stuff for me) and finally some "normal" FS action.

I must say that the level of service is very high. The only real difference for me is that I speak relatively well Japanese and no Chinese at all.

So although the sexual pleasure was there, I did enjoy Shanghai it a lot less than my usual outing in japan because I could not speak with the girl I spent my time with. Of course I am not there to talk much, but it those extra that make you feel that you had a good time with a girl and not a robot (I had a bit this impression with number 35).

So finally I prefer Japan but that might only be because of me and my crap level of Chinese

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There is an elaborate scam being perpetrated at the Richy, Luxe, Club G Plus and Babyface Nightclub in Shanghai and elsewhere in China. Avoid these clubs!

My friend and I went for 2 nights to four different Shanghai bars all of which were owned by the same person or related parties. There were a lot of beautiful girls there. We got phone numbers from several different girls. Then we noticed that all of the girls we talked to had the exact same white square cell phone. And all of them asked us to text them the following day. None of the girls we phoned called us back when we phoned them the next day. But they responded to our texts by suggesting we go back to the same venue! The following day we went back to another night club and the same exact thing happened but we got suspicious when the 7th girl had the exact same white square cell phone as everyone else. How many people have the exact same cell phone?

So we talked to the last girl and she admitted that she was paid 200 RMB per night to stay until 7 PM and get guys to buy her drinks and come back and buy tables. The venue owner gave her a white square cellular phone so she could give a fake phone number to any guy who asked for her phone number. The club owner or patron responds to any text message to these phones by suggesting that you come back to the same club.

Considering the number of women at this venue who had the EXACT SAME PHONE, we figure that 60% of the girls at the club were in on the scam. A bottle costs 1500 RMB-2800 RMB in these club don’t buy one.

DO NOT GO TO ANY OF THESE VENUES. A large portion of the women there are covertly in on an elaborate scam to get patrons to purchase tables and drinks. If you see a girl with a square white cell phone she is probably part of the scam, so avoid her!

Of course this is a forum for mongers, but if you’re trying to get girls by picking them up, BEWARE of these venues.

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Hello, Guys

I am an International Monger, staying in Shanghai for a few days. I wanted to check out G18 or another venue to get a threesome (2 HOT girls). Any suggestions?

I appreciate your help.

Jaded MD

PS I have a couple of posts from my last trip to brazil on the forum.

Avoid Bund 18

I went to a bar on the 4th floor of Bund 18 with my friend MD last night trying to pick up girls. My friend was talking to this girl, who appeared to be really excited to talk with him. Then this weird Eurotrash guy comes up to MD and says "Stop disturbing my friend. " MD ignores Eurotrash and keeps talking to the girl who was really into him. Then Eurotrash tells MD that he is the OWNER of Bund 18 and MD had better do what he says and stop talking. My friend didn't want any trouble, so he stopped talking to the girl, who looked disappointed. Anyway, we talk to the waitress, and she says that Eurotrash is actually the OWNER of the venue.

You guys should AVIOD Bund 18 like the plague. The owner is a total dick, who is rude to customers.

So. I'd like to ask the guys who patronize G18, why go there when it's about 200 rmb more for the first visit and 100 rmb more thereafter compared with places with similar service? Is it the convenient location or what?

[QUOTE=Bonzo1]New location will be the bottom floor of former Mint on tong ren lu. I believe the others are also correct about new location of Judy's.

Seems this relocation is largely about leases expiring rather than purely the Expo or the construction across the street (though those are certainly factors).

anyway, seems bar life might not be totally dead in Shanghai after all. We'll see.

-B-[/QUOTE]

Update - or possibly next to Big Bamboo (re: Manhattan bar)

Hey guys,

I developed a freebie (actually nothing is free.) by becoming a regular at a really nice place called the Beauty Center at 648 Lao Shan Lu in Pudong. There's at least 5 HE places on either side before you get there from Weifeng Lu, but this one is completely above board. I tried to encourage HE but could NOt get prevail. BUT, Absolutely the BEST legit massage I have ever enjoyed. In my case, #30 does a great back walk and professional massage and I got together with her outside for some reverse massage after a couple of visits. Her English skills are improving and she is extremely responsive outside of work.

Went to G18 recently around 2 pm. The kid on the ground floor confirmed my intention and was whizzed up to the changing room. Selection was disappointing at this early hour. I saw none of the girls mentioned and ended up choosing 56 from Hunan. Once we got in the room, we were joined by 53 with the shower routine. I decided to have only one girl and had a forgettable session. 56 did all the routines and was pretty mechanical. She was pushing pretty hard for two girls and turned me off. About the only interesting part was a brief HJ with a condom filled with hot water. Had there been an option to downgrade service, I'd rather have a cheap HJ. Overall, the place is nice and the soapie is always interesting, even when the girl is only doing the motion. As a side note, the girl mentioned that there's at least one room with the infamous "fuck chair". Perhaps worth trying out next time.

Girl: 56
Face: can't even remember
Body: 7, adequate for the soapie grilling
BJ: 4
FS: 5
GFE: nope
Repeat: I don't think so

PS: does anyone know another SN with Shanghai hotel style soapie? Not with the inflatable but an actual chair/ table?

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Well done JL. Concise report. Exactly what the travelling western businessman requires.

I will be in SH on Wed dec 9. Will definitely be visiting Manhattan about 11pm. Msg me if anybody wants to meet.[/QUOTE]Thanks BBB. Had to try out the colombian as well, she loves GT and after being a bit drunk, half the price. 1. 000! It WAS silicone, and she is looking for even bigger-why? Great performance, two shots. Then I was tired. Great body, anyone else tried her?

Next night had one Chinese with great tits and one philly. Both at Manhattan. 1. 500 all together. Incl lesbian play. The Philly has been there for years.

Jean

[QUOTE=Bonzo1]Update. Or possibly next to Big Bamboo (re: Manhattan bar)[/QUOTE]One of the manager's at Malone's told me the same thing last night.

Confirmed... Sat night, Manhattan has a sign on its front window with a map showing the new location... Free drinks 10-12 this Thursday... I think it is their last night open at this location...

Long-time reader - first time poster etc.

I had a business trip to Shanghai last week and was booked by my assistant in the Holiday Inn Vista View. I had seen some reports about the massage services on the third floor. In the elevator, it's clearly stated that this establishment is not managed by the hotel, which I took to be a good sign, so I decided to give it a try.

First, I must say that I showed up there at around 3:00 AM. When I did, it was manned by only one guy in a side room near the elevator and nobody at the front desk - discouraging sign to say the least. However, I was not about to go looking somewhere else and have no special friends in Shanghai (or rather had none at that time) that I could call to relieve my loneliness. I decided to soldier on.

At any rate, after 15 minutes one girl - dressed like perhaps she didn't even work there - showed up. Face 6, body 7. We went to a room and she then asked me if I wanted to go to my room for a massage."OK", I thought, "why not."

Her english skills were limited, but I thought we managed to communicate the particulars. However, she asked only 400 for the massage. Strange. Anyway, she gave me a very nice oil massage, allowed my hands to wander, but her hands did not do any wandering of their own. I decided to force the issue and wandered them for her to the area in most need of attention. At which point she explained to me "massage only." So I gave up.

Then, as she was leaving, she asked if I wanted her to come back. It was already 4:30, so I figured I might as well see where this all would lead and replied that I would be delighted if she would come back. She made a funny face, but understood I had said yes, left the room and then returned after about 15 minutes.

She took me to the bed and began to give me another massage! Now I was confused, so I decided to see if I could press things, sat up and began to kiss her neck. She responded very enthusiastically and we ended up having a lovely time together, after which she just left without asking for any kind of compensation.

At this point, I am entirely confused as to what is on offer at the holiday inn. At the very least, there is one average looking girl there who sometimes needs a bit of company at 5:00 am and is an enthusiastic lover.

[QUOTE=Jadedmd]There is an elaborate scam being perpetrated at the Richy, Luxe, Club G Plus and Babyface Nightclub in Shanghai and elsewhere in China. Avoid these clubs!

My friend and I went for 2 nights to four different Shanghai bars all of which were owned by the same person or related parties. There were a lot of beautiful girls there. We got phone numbers from several different girls. Then we noticed that all of the girls we talked to had the exact same white square cell phone. And all of them asked us to text them the following day. None of the girls we phoned called us back when we phoned them the next day. But they responded to our texts by suggesting we go back to the same venue! The following day we went back to another night club and the same exact thing happened but we got suspicious when the 7th girl had the exact same white square cell phone as everyone else. How many people have the exact same cell phone?

So we talked to the last girl and she admitted that she was paid 200 RMB per night to stay until 7 PM and get guys to buy her drinks and come back and buy tables. The venue owner gave her a white square cellular phone so she could give a fake phone number to any guy who asked for her phone number. The club owner or patron responds to any text message to these phones by suggesting that you come back to the same club.

Considering the number of women at this venue who had the EXACT SAME PHONE, we figure that 60% of the girls at the club were in on the scam. A bottle costs 1500 RMB-2800 RMB in these club don’t buy one.

DO NOT GO TO ANY OF THESE VENUES. A large portion of the women there are covertly in on an elaborate scam to get patrons to purchase tables and drinks. If you see a girl with a square white cell phone she is probably part of the scam, so avoid her!

Of course this is a forum for mongers, but if you’re trying to get girls by picking them up, BEWARE of these venues.

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Are you for real?

I have been frequenting Babyface for 3 years - almost weekly - and can with absolute certainty confirm that your posting is absolute rubbish.

How on earth can you claim 60% of the girls at BBF are in on some 'scam' to get you to return to their club?

First of all, that place is rammed almost 7 nights a week, they do not need to resort to this to get clientele.

Second, it is a predominantly Chinese club and they could care less about laowai's hanging about in there (I am assuming you are a laowai of some sort)

And third, a bottle at BBF is 550 (Chivas and 2 bottles of green tea) - I don't know what the fuck you are drinking for 1,500 to 2,800!!!!

I'm sure you posted with good intentions, but really, what you are saying is completely ridiculous and misleading to others in the forum. I can't understand why you would make such posting.

Just my 2 cents worth and no offense intended!

Mostly because it's close to where I normally stay. Any other places you would like to share around JingAn area? PM is fine, and very appreciate it!

[QUOTE=Tasss]So. I'd like to ask the guys who patronize G18, why go there when it's about 200 rmb more for the first visit and 100 rmb more thereafter compared with places with similar service? Is it the convenient location or what?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Norm Deploom]Long-time reader - first time poster etc.

...
At this point, I am entirely confused as to what is on offer at the holiday inn. At the very least, there is one average looking girl there who sometimes needs a bit of company at 5:00 am and is an enthusiastic lover.[/QUOTE]

I can imagine your confusion, but the last sentence sumarize all and just enjoy it.
Maybe she had to go back to "end" the session with the establishemtn and was keen to test a foreigner..who knows? Lucky you!

[QUOTE=Mark17]One of the manager's at Malone's told me the same thing last night.

Confirmed... Sat night, Manhattan has a sign on its front window with a map showing the new location... Free drinks 10-12 this Thursday... I think it is their last night open at this location...[/QUOTE]

Tonight, Tuesday Dec 15, last day of Manhattan on Tongren.

Thursday, Thurs Dec 17, first day of Manhattan at 154 Nanyan Lu, two doors down from Big Bamboo

Free drinks 10PM-midnight this Thursday, Friday and Saturday Dec 17-19

[QUOTE=Blacklisted]Are you for real?

I have been frequenting Babyface for 3 years. Almost weekly. And can with absolute certainty confirm that your posting is absolute rubbish.

How on earth can you claim 60% of the girls at BBF are in on some 'scam' to get you to return to their club?

First of all, that place is rammed almost 7 nights a week, they do not need to resort to this to get clientele.

Second, it is a predominantly Chinese club and they could care less about laowai's hanging about in there (I am assuming you are a laowai of some sort)

And third, a bottle at BBF is 550 (Chivas and 2 bottles of green tea). I don't know what the fuck you are drinking for 1, 500 to 2, 800!

I'm sure you posted with good intentions, but really, what you are saying is completely ridiculous and misleading to others in the forum. I can't understand why you would make such posting.

Just my 2 cents worth and no offense intended![/QUOTE]I know tha BL and I hang out around town a fair bit, but I have to fully back up what he says here. I have been going to BBF, G+ etc for a couple o years now and have never encountered this. The crowd is generally pretty chilled (or drunk, especially the young 'uns who run out around 12. 30am) and the service is usually pretty straightforward sure some of the bar guys can be rather twat like).

I have met many girls at these places (just for fun, drinknig etc, sometimes for freebie fun) and I have never encountered anything like Jademd describes. Can't recall any white cell phones and we always pay the same for "Chivas" and green tea or for beer.

It is fair to say that G+ had for a while at least, a group of girls who worked there. Kind of as drinking companions, but that is a) pretty common in China (is it Sky bar in the New Factories that also does this as does the M2, 3, 4 places). But in G+ they hand(ed) out plastic name cards. So hardly underhand or a scam.

However, looking back at Jademd's other posts he does seem to have a bad time in bars (by the way, Bund 18, you mean LOUNGE 18 in number 18 on the Bund). So, so far, he has locked out all the clubs in Shanghai except Muse and the others in Fuxing Park and Bar Rouge.

Bad luck or something else? I'll put it down to bad luck and a bit of a wind up somewhere by a couple of girls (Chinese girls do like to joke...)

Chaps. If the freebie scene is you cup of tea, or you just like some not too bad clubs with sometimes great, sometimes dire music (as with any club), these are the good ones and much fun can be had. And you can do it at these places without spending a fortune (hell, they have printed menus with prices...)

Best,

WGS

[QUOTE]New location will be the bottom floor of former Mint on tong ren lu. I believe the others are also correct about new location of Judy's.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Bonzo1]Update. Or possibly next to Big Bamboo (re: Manhattan bar)[/QUOTE]Opposite Big Bamboo. Great, you can risk stumbling into people you may or my not know. The former should be hoped for. Or that the girls find somewhere else. Eitherway, here's hoping there is a bit more space and better smoke clearing!

Anyone has experience with the outcall escort/massage services?

They quote Rmb1k for FS ,is this reasonable?

[QUOTE=Makeupaname]Tonight, Tuesday Dec 15, last day of Manhattan on Tongren.

Thursday, Thurs Dec 17, first day of Manhattan at 154 Nanyan Lu, two doors down from Big Bamboo

Free drinks 10PM-midnight this Thursday, Friday and Saturday Dec 17-19[/QUOTE]

Drove past on my way home from the Portman last night - confirmed lights out for all of them on that end of TRL.

[QUOTE=Mike921]Drove past on my way home from the Portman last night. Confirmed lights out for all of them on that end of TRL.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I went to Malones last night, and the dump trucks were there taking the stuff out of the bars already.

The free drinks 10-12 tonight is at the new Manhattan. They are supposed to open tonight.

[QUOTE=Jadedmd]There is an elaborate scam being perpetrated at the Richy, Luxe, Club G Plus and Babyface Nightclub in Shanghai and elsewhere in China. Avoid these clubs!

My friend and I went for 2 nights to four different Shanghai bars all of which were owned by the same person or related parties. There were a lot of beautiful girls there. We got phone numbers from several different girls. Then we noticed that all of the girls we talked to had the exact same white square cell phone. And all of them asked us to text them the following day. None of the girls we phoned called us back when we phoned them the next day. But they responded to our texts by suggesting we go back to the same venue! The following day we went back to another night club and the same exact thing happened but we got suspicious when the 7th girl had the exact same white square cell phone as everyone else. How many people have the exact same cell phone?

So we talked to the last girl and she admitted that she was paid 200 RMB per night to stay until 7 PM and get guys to buy her drinks and come back and buy tables. The venue owner gave her a white square cellular phone so she could give a fake phone number to any guy who asked for her phone number. The club owner or patron responds to any text message to these phones by suggesting that you come back to the same club.

Considering the number of women at this venue who had the EXACT SAME PHONE, we figure that 60% of the girls at the club were in on the scam. A bottle costs 1500 RMB-2800 RMB in these club don’t buy one.

DO NOT GO TO ANY OF THESE VENUES. A large portion of the women there are covertly in on an elaborate scam to get patrons to purchase tables and drinks. If you see a girl with a square white cell phone she is probably part of the scam, so avoid her!

Of course this is a forum for mongers, but if you’re trying to get girls by picking them up, BEWARE of these venues.

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Nice try buddy. Each bar you mentioned have their own hostesses. It's not a scam, it's your own fault you can't tell who is who from your own inexperience. As pointed out, bottles don't cost 1500RMB. Why you fabricate facts is beyond my understanding. Judging from your posts, it seems you and your buddies have no respect for this country's customs. Go take your shit elsewhere.

For the more respectful crowd, G+ is a good place to be. Drinks are just 80-160RMB. They have a very nice bar area whereas Richy's and BBF gets way too crowded. One thing I dislike about BBF is they don't have a bar section on weekends! They sell it as "spots" that require a bottle purchase. Lame I know but their business is just too good.

Is every bar in the complex on Tong Ren Lu moving out, or just Manhattan?

Being in adventurous mood, I decided to just explore Nanjing Rd W on my own as frankly I did not do my homework prior to visiting Shanghai so really had to clue where to have some fun.

It is truly amazing how many good looking girls are in this area. Not WG type but just shopping, going home from work or somewhere and many of them are stunningly good looking and dress to kill. Since weather was OK and I felt like walking so strolled along at a leisury pace admiring the surroundings.

Got as far as People’s Park and across the street saw Fenshine Fashion & Accessories Plaza which apparently is a replacement for the infamous Xiangiang Market. This was a fun place back in 2004/2005, so I decided to see what this Fenshine place is all about.

Well, similar stuff but just not the same atmosphere and since the vendors were very aggressive I quickly exited through the side door.

The side door led to some narrow corridor and there was a brightly lit entrance with Rainbow Room sign in all colors. It looked like a cheap xmas tree on steroids. I guessed that this Rainbow Room is some kind of a club for locals and since I did not feel like spending my money on overpriced drinks, I kept walking.

Back on Nanjing Rd I turned back and saw this large sign “MASSAGE 6F” with the bunch of Chinese characters. Hmmmm…..a massage seemed like a good idea so I went back, through the “Rainbow Room” entrance, found an elevator and got to the sixth floor.

The sign on the door to the left said “Fengdinguyan Sauna” with door wide open so I walked in. The guy at the entrance seemed a little bit surprised to see me but all in smiles managed to ask something that sounded like “special service?”

“Yes, special service” I replied and walked in.

Another guy showed up who could speak some English and said “680 for special service, 70 minutes, OK?” Well, 680 RMB is a reasonable price for 70 minutes no matter how special the service is and the place looked nice, clean and professional so I agreed.

The guy asked me to take off my shoes so with some bewilderment I complied. Next I was led through a series of doors and narrow corridors to a room with two large recliner chairs, a locker, TV screen and not much else. The clean set of shorts and shirt was waiting there and the guy showed me a small closet to store my clothes and gave me a plastic bracelet with some kind of electronic key. As I learned later, the key number is a way they keep customers moving through the process so my advice is to put it on your wrist as without it they get all flustered and confused. Also, finding the room after turned out to be a challenge without the key number.

After about 10 min, another guy shows up and asks “Go see girls?” Well, I took him up on the offer and he led me to a room with one wall set as a window to another room (one way I presume) were about 10 girls were standing at attention. The range was anyway from 5 to 8 so none was particularly striking beauty but they were all young, slim so I was not disappointed. The number 33 attracted my attention as she had this special kind of mischievous smile that told me that I may actually have some fun.

Soon after the number 33 came out and she led me to the actual massage room. Huge shower, bed and not much else. As this was my first time in AMP, I got a chuckle from the elaborate washing ritual but the girl had a nice body and smile although zero English which was OK as I did not come for a stimulating conversation.

As it is normal with all PRCs, unshaved pussy was a bit turnoff since I got used to Pinay girls who are always clean shaved but the rest was nice so I was ready. She had amazing blow job skills so I guess with the number of customer going through the place she had time to learn the proper way.

After 2 shots as was ready to go especially since there was no way to talk and my tiny repertoire of Mandarin words was completely exhausted. However, I notice a set of bars on the ceiling and pointed to it showing that I don’t understand what they are for. She told me to turn over and started to massage my back by walking all over me and to my surprise it felt really good. Even in this skill she was well trained as she stepped on the right spots.

That massage was really a cherry on the top and I felt very relaxed and sleepy but my 70 min was up so had to get back to my wait room. I gave her 300 RMB as she was very nice and focused on my satisfaction and worked hard on the second shot. We parted ways with a kiss and I was back in the wait room. After a few minutes another girl opened the door asking “foot massage” but I’ve had enough at this moment so politely declined and she took it with a smile and disappeared.

I paid 680 RMB at the front counter and walked back to the hotel.

In summary, a pleasant experience in a clean, safe and professional establishment focused on full relaxation after a hard day. Highly recommended.

JJB

PS. The business card announced that this is the place for “the best spacial service” hence the title of my FR 

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[QUOTE=Johnjohn Bob]

I gave her 300 RMB as she was very nice and focused on my satisfaction and worked hard on the second shot.

I paid 680 RMB at the front counter and walked back to the hotel.

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JJB,

Great report! I just want to ask a question.

As you had agreed to 680 RMB for the session, it was obviously an all inclusive package for FS. Why did you feel inclined to give her a nearly 50% tip? It is included in the package to "focus on your satisfaction and work hard on the second shot". A tip is not required, however, 50-100 RMB would have been plenty if you must.

Just my POV.

OAH

[QUOTE=Et888]Anyone has experience with the outcall escort/massage services?

They quote Rmb1k for FS ,is this reasonable?[/QUOTE]No, but all reports are bad, 1000 is way overpriced, search and you find thed etails, all is here.

FA

[QUOTE=Gaolei]Is every bar in the complex on Tong Ren Lu moving out, or just Manhattan?[/QUOTE]They are all closed.

While Judys has a new location at the old City Diner, I also noted a Judys will open down the road from Big Bamboo. It is actually the street that is perpendicular to Big Bamboo. It is in the block where the Portman complex resides. Go up some stairs and it is in the back. I believe it is next to a restaurant. Think they open in January.

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]JJB,

Great report! I just want to ask a question.

As you had agreed to 680 RMB for the session, it was obviously an all inclusive package for FS. Why did you feel inclined to give her a nearly 50% tip? It is included in the package to "focus on your satisfaction and work hard on the second shot". A tip is not required, however, 50-100 RMB would have been plenty if you must.

Just my POV.

OAH[/QUOTE]
Really? I've never gotten a 2nd shot anywhere in Shanghai without paying extra, although I've only ever been to the old Shanghai Hotel, the old B2, and 999.

I was at Manhattan for opening night last Thursday and it was all business as usual. The free drinks from 10 to 12 was a nice touch and certainly had the place packed earlier than usual. The layout is very similar to the old Manhattan but much wider with much better bathrooms. No upper deck in this venue either. Drank and danced until 4 am before heading back to the hotel with two viet girls. As busy as the place was it did not look like too many girls were being picked up. I was completely out of rmb and told the two girls I was with that all I had was $100 US and they took it, just desperate to get out of there I think. Our time together was short and sweet but as I was on the 6:06am train to Nanjing that morning it was all good.

I've been reading ISG for some time, but this is my first report.

I've roamed Pudong yesterday for some BBS, around Beizhong Road it seems everything is closed, not even street lamps in the area after 11pm. In Yinsheng Road near Carrefour Jinqiao store there were some pretty faces in the windows, but nothing that really stood out.

Does anyone know if the shops in Wuzhong Road are still open? I remember there used to be quite a few stunners there. I only ever got HS there, though.

I've never been in on of those legitimate massage parlors. How does this work? Oil or soapy. Does the girl take off her clothes and let you massage her? And how much do I have to expect to pay?

I've been on and off Shanghai for the past few years and it seems the BBS scene has changed completely. If anyone knows any BBS areas that are still doing business I would appreciate to let me know. PM me, I guess that's safer.

Thanks

What's the best way to get service at the Holdiay Inn in Bejeing?

I'll go there soon.

[QUOTE=Rob Woodrow]Really? I've never gotten a 2nd shot anywhere in Shanghai without paying extra, although I've only ever been to the old Shanghai Hotel, the old B2, and 999.[/QUOTE]

Try Sarcosa in Pudong.

[QUOTE=Rob Woodrow]Really? I've never gotten a 2nd shot anywhere in Shanghai without paying extra, although I've only ever been to the old Shanghai Hotel, the old B2, and 999.[/QUOTE]Really? I have alsways got two, and very occasionally three shots in all these places. Generally I reckon you pay for the time and do what you want, within reason, during that time. I have certainly never been tapped up for additional cash anywhere except Phoenix Massage on Xietu Lu.

Sometimes it will depend on timing and pace. If they can stretch you out so that pop 1 comes only 10 minutes before the end of the session they wil normally suggest "Xiu xi" (rest). And that is it, but if you get some playability going early on and both enjoying it, you should be able to move things along faster.

SH was the toughest, but B2 (much missed even though it was in a dire location for me) they almost semed to be begging for it. Well, not quite, but you know what I mean! G18, always, as is 500 WZ Lu, JD (also WZ Lu), 999.

The other thing to do is to ensure she thinks you are in town for a while. You do not need to be a great Chinese speaker to get this across. They always ask. Just say you live here. Her thinking will be that [I]you[/I] are worth investing in and are more likely to return.

On top of that, this is why it so [b][u]so very important people post good information here[/u][/b]

- Location

- Girls number (not hard to remember)

- performance / number of shots

- cost

This is the case, good or bad.

Most don't care about the process. We know what goes on in these places. And most of us don't care whether she came, how hard, how long and what a god you are in the sexual act. If we want porn, we will buy, download or borrow our mates. And who needs that in SH?

And to OAH's point, tips are not required, and if you do, care with what you give. Most girls seem to earn about 8, 000 RMB per month (from what I have been told). 300RMB tip is pretty hefty. Heck, I wish I got that % for a good days work!

HTH, and of course each time is going to be different so YMMV.

WGS

[QUOTE=Chuckle One]I was at Manhattan for opening night last Thursday and it was all business as usual. The free drinks from 10 to 12 was a nice touch and certainly had the place packed earlier than usual. The layout is very similar to the old Manhattan but much wider with much better bathrooms. No upper deck in this venue either. Drank and danced until 4 am before heading back to the hotel with two viet girls. As busy as the place was it did not look like too many girls were being picked up. I was completely out of rmb and told the two girls I was with that all I had was $100 US and they took it, just desperate to get out of there I think. Our time together was short and sweet but as I was on the 6:06am train to Nanjing that morning it was all good.[/QUOTE]Was there far too late last night (e. g. Had a body full of Whisky and green tea) but had to haul in on the way home. The new location is the spit image of the old one. All the pillars have been moved up there from TRL but it is a significntly bigger space, higher ceilings and all. Bathrooms, as stated (heck, why are so fascinated by them?!) are much better but expact a Scott Of The Antartic style expedition to get there.

So, talentwise: At 2. 30am there seemed to be a morsoe bunch of Phils girls hanging at the back, some Chinese girls and lots of Viet girls, some very attractive. However, as CO said, there did not seem to be much buying going on and the most good looking (I was involved at the time) was heading for the door at 3am on her own.

This time of year is always a little odd: many Phils girls head home for Christmas, and many of the locals have also headed home which leaves an odd selection. But if you are into Viet girls and happy to pay 800-1000 LT then there is plenty there.

My only complaints remain as with the old place: too dark, you can't see what you are drinking (so to speak); it all starts far too late. C'mon girls: turn up at 9pm not 11. 30!

Happy playing,

WGS

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[QUOTE=Chuckle One]I was at Manhattan for opening night last Thursday and it was all business as usual. The free drinks from 10 to 12 was a nice touch and certainly had the place packed earlier than usual. The layout is very similar to the old Manhattan but much wider with much better bathrooms. No upper deck in this venue either. Drank and danced until 4 am before heading back to the hotel with two viet girls. As busy as the place was it did not look like too many girls were being picked up. I was completely out of rmb and told the two girls I was with that all I had was $100 US and they took it, just desperate to get out of there I think. Our time together was short and sweet but as I was on the 6:06am train to Nanjing that morning it was all good.[/QUOTE]
US$100?? RMB 680??? For 2.... TWO! - gals?!!

In Shanghai AND from Manhattan!!

Yowich!! - I would think that YES, It WAS all goood!

In envy

SEAJ

Anyway, I respectfully disagree with WGS on this post. WGS basically concedes my two main points are true.

1. You will not get freebee fun in these places. They are not pickup joints.

"I have met many girls at these places (just for fun, drinknig etc, ***sometimes*** for freebie fun)"

He is a regular and he admits he doesn't usually get laid by the girls you meet in these clubs.

2. The girls there are hired guns. They are there because they are paid to entertain you, not because they just want to have fun and possibly get laid.

"It is fair to say that G+ had for a while at least, a group of girls who worked there. Kind of as drinking companions, but that is a) pretty common in China (is it Sky bar in the New Factories that also does this as does the M2, 3, 4 places). But in G+ they hand(ed) out plastic name cards. "

Anyway, guys, I prefer freebees (and had remarkable success at getting them in Shanghai, but mainly girls I met in shopping malls or on the street). The highlight of my trip was a freebee who said, "F- me, F- me, I am your Chinese sex slave, F- me. " I only really use professionals because I like to have threesomes.

I want to repeat my prior post. If you are looking for freebees or prostitutes don't go to Richy, Luxe, Club G Plus and Babyface Nightclub in Shanghai. Unfortunately, I found that the clubs mentioned above were full of scammers who were PAID money to entertain you and not to have sex with you. Several of the girls told me as much when I confronted them about it. If you are trying to get a freebee going there is counterproductive. I ask the people who support these clubs a simple question. How often have you actually had sex with a girl you met at one of these clubs? I am guessing you've had a lot more luck at other clubs in Shanghai like 88.

I guess some people like to hang out in clubs surrounded by girls who are paid to be your friend without you knowing about it. Personally, I prefer a more transparent situation. Either she is a prostitute and you know what you're getting (sex for money) or she is a freebee that has sex with you because she's horny and thinks you're cool. I am not looking for a hostess who is paid to talk to me and get me to buy drinks. If I wanted to pay someone to talk to me I would hire a shrink.

And for the record, the owner at Lounge 18 (or Bund 18 as it says on the giant sign in front) is a dick but the women there were cool. The problem is that if the owner doesn't let you hit on the chicks in the venue, it's probably not worth going.

[QUOTE=World Guy Sh]I know tha BL and I hang out around town a fair bit, but I have to fully back up what he says here. I have been going to BBF, G+ etc for a couple o years now and have never encountered this. The crowd is generally pretty chilled (or drunk, especially the young 'uns who run out around 12. 30am) and the service is usually pretty straightforward sure some of the bar guys can be rather twat like).

I have met many girls at these places (just for fun, drinknig etc, sometimes for freebie fun) and I have never encountered anything like Jademd describes. Can't recall any white cell phones and we always pay the same for "Chivas" and green tea or for beer.

It is fair to say that G+ had for a while at least, a group of girls who worked there. Kind of as drinking companions, but that is a) pretty common in China (is it Sky bar in the New Factories that also does this as does the M2, 3, 4 places). But in G+ they hand(ed) out plastic name cards. So hardly underhand or a scam.

However, looking back at Jademd's other posts he does seem to have a bad time in bars (by the way, Bund 18, you mean LOUNGE 18 in number 18 on the Bund). So, so far, he has locked out all the clubs in Shanghai except Muse and the others in Fuxing Park and Bar Rouge.

Bad luck or something else? I'll put it down to bad luck and a bit of a wind up somewhere by a couple of girls (Chinese girls do like to joke.)

Chaps. If the freebie scene is you cup of tea, or you just like some not too bad clubs with sometimes great, sometimes dire music (as with any club), these are the good ones and much fun can be had. And you can do it at these places without spending a fortune (hell, they have printed menus with prices.)

Best,

WGS[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lionmaster]I've been reading ISG for some time, but this is my first report.

I've roamed Pudong yesterday for some BBS, around Beizhong Road it seems everything is closed, not even street lamps in the area after 11pm. In Yinsheng Road near Carrefour Jinqiao store there were some pretty faces in the windows, but nothing that really stood out.

Does anyone know if the shops in Wuzhong Road are still open? I remember there used to be quite a few stunners there. I only ever got HS there, though.

I've never been in on of those legitimate massage parlors. How does this work? Oil or soapy. Does the girl take off her clothes and let you massage her? And how much do I have to expect to pay?

I've been on and off Shanghai for the past few years and it seems the BBS scene has changed completely. If anyone knows any BBS areas that are still doing business I would appreciate to let me know. PM me, I guess that's safer.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Hey Lionmaster,
So you've been reading for sometime, travel to Shanghai for years and now you "report" for your first time... How about contributing before continuing to take from others? This board works because there are those that give their experience for others to learn from and enjoy. If the board was made up of only Lionmasters it would be nothing but questions to benefit themselves.

The words would not be as harsh if you did not have the history and decided not to contribute.

MD40

[QUOTE=Lionmaster]I've been reading ISG for some time, but this is my first report.....
Thanks[/QUOTE]

where's the report?
Ah do you mean street patroling report?
Leave this to "neighbourhood watch" and let us know more about the real things:)

Manhattan was very much in the TV news this week, but no mention moving house. Seems six Filipino ladyboys were running an operation out of Tongren Lu, Drugging Johns, then stripping thier hotel rooms or apartments. One turned the rest in and was released, the rest were sentenced to up to 13 years in a Chinese men's prison. Should be interesting!

fz

MD 40 and Bionicman,

Thanks for the welcome.

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand]JJB,

Great report! I just want to ask a question.

As you had agreed to 680 RMB for the session, it was obviously an all inclusive package for FS. Why did you feel inclined to give her a nearly 50% tip? It is included in the package to "focus on your satisfaction and work hard on the second shot". A tip is not required, however, 50-100 RMB would have been plenty if you must.

Just my POV.

OAH[/QUOTE]In places where the payment is made to mamasan or as in this case at the front desk, it is obvious that the girl gets less than 50% of what you pay.

Since the girl was very nice I decided to give her a nice tip. It was not requested, it was not required and she would be still in smiles if I haven't tipped her.

It just made me feel better and 300 RMB is really nothing in comparison of having a good feeling that the girl will be able to buy herself something nice or help her family. For me 300 RMB is a price of a couple of drinks at the bar and for her it is probably a couple days of work.

For me this is not just about mechanical sex and the girls are not some soulless robots. If it makes me feel good to give someone a little bit money why not? I don't think I contributed to the inflation of local prices since this was not negotiated up front and I gave it to her when I was leaving and she was not expecting it. She actually may be extra nice for the next white guy hoping for the same miracle. Obviously she will get disappointed but some of you may be pleasantly surprised.

[QUOTE=Lionmaster]MD 40 and Bionicman,

Thanks for the welcome.[/QUOTE]

Lionmaster, are you really serious? You've been lurking for years without contributing and now you want to play the victim after words to suggest you contribute? You expected a grand parade (after using the board for years) because you wrote a "report" or more accurately requests of others? Seems like your name should be Mousemaster. This is not intended as a flame, but come on, Man Up and give back.

Depends to some extent on the girl. If you click with the girl in Sarcosa, Heting or Merrylin the second shot is available, usually by mouth. And they can be very good. Possibly not the first time you see her though.

[QUOTE=Rob Woodrow]Really? I've never gotten a 2nd shot anywhere in Shanghai without paying extra, although I've only ever been to the old Shanghai Hotel, the old B2, and 999.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Johnjohn Bob]....
It just made me feel better and 300 RMB is really nothing in........ For me 300 RMB is a price of a couple of drinks at the bar and for her it is probably a couple days of work.
.....and I gave it to her when I was leaving and she was not expecting it. She actually may be extra nice for the next white guy hoping for the same miracle. Obviously she will get disappointed but some of you may be pleasantly surprised.[/QUOTE]
Good strategy, but be prepared to many PM asking for your schedule...so they book soon after you have been somewhere :)

All the BBS that used to be hand job heaven are all gone. Replacing them are a couple of saunas...

Jiyuan 3 has changed its name but is still there look for roman pillars.

One sauna beside that sorry don't remember the name.

Up the street 500 Wuzhong they now have soapy land massage for 680 before 5 or so and then it goes to 730...

Cheers all and happy holidays

[QUOTE=Jadedmd]

And for the record, the owner at Lounge 18 (or Bund 18 as it says on the giant sign in front) is a dick but the women there were cool. The problem is that if the owner doesn't let you hit on the chicks in the venue, it's probably not worth going.[/QUOTE]

Let's say you simply hit on the wrong girl. Tant pis.
If I would be the owner and if I would have laid eyes on this girl myself, I probably would have done the same.

Levitian

[QUOTE=Johnjohn Bob]
For me this is not just about mechanical sex and the girls are not some soulless robots. If it makes me feel good to give someone a little bit money why not? I don't think I contributed to the inflation of local prices since this was not negotiated up front and I gave it to her when I was leaving and she was not expecting it. She actually may be extra nice for the next white guy hoping for the same miracle. Obviously she will get disappointed but some of you may be pleasantly surprised.[/QUOTE]

Or, she will start expecting big tips from every laowai punter that come along. And, she may start asking for them upfront. And, her service may get worse if she doesn't get them.

IMHO, she probably thinks you are a fool, rather than a nice guy, for giving her such a big tip. I don't say one should never tip, I just think yours was over the top. Do you give a waiter 50% of the bill as a tip in a restaurant.

Just my POV.

OAH

[quote=jadedmd]anyway, i respectfully disagree with wgs on this post. wgs basically concedes my two main points are true.

1. you will not get freebee fun in these places. they are not pickup joints.

"i have met many girls at these places (just for fun, drinknig etc, ***sometimes*** for freebie fun)"

he is a regular and he admits he doesn't usually get laid by the girls you meet in these clubs.[/quote]but i have lost count of the number i have. not bad in 18 months mate.

[quote=jadedmd]2. the girls there are hired guns. they are there because they are paid to entertain you, not because they just want to have fun and possibly get laid.

"it is fair to say that g+ had for a while at least, a group of girls who worked there. kind of as drinking companions, but that is a) pretty common in china (is it sky bar in the new factories that also does this as does the m2, 3, 4 places). but in g+ they hand(ed) out plastic name cards. "[/quote]they aren't there for shagging. if you are not interesed they go away.

[quote=jadedmd]anyway, guys, i prefer freebees (and had remarkable success at getting them in shanghai, but mainly girls i met in shopping malls or on the street). the highlight of my trip was a freebee who said, "f- me, f- me, i am your chinese sex slave, f- me. " i only really use professionals because i like to have threesomes.[/quote]wow, you are a god. all bow down.

[quote=jadedmd]i want to repeat my prior post. if you are looking for freebees or prostitutes don't go to richy, luxe, club g plus and babyface nightclub in shanghai.[/quote]they are in abundance if you want them. just not always required or wanted. hence "sometimes". get it?

[quote=jadedmd]unfortunately, i found that the clubs mentioned above were full of scammers who were paid money to entertain you and not to have sex with you. several of the girls told me as much when i confronted them about it. if you are trying to get a freebee going there is counterproductive.[/quote]obviously you attract them. no one else (and on speaking to other people who go including chinese friends recognise your claims) have ever seen this. sour grapes would be a polite way of putting their response.

[quote=jadedmd]i ask the people who support these clubs a simple question. how often have you actually had sex with a girl you met at one of these clubs?[/quote]see above. lots.

[quote=jadedmd]i guess some people like to hang out in clubs surrounded by girls who are paid to be your friend without you knowing about it.[/quote]the girl on saturday was obviously not paid. she left here at 4pm sunday.

[quote=jadedmd]personally, i prefer a more transparent situation. either she is a prostitute and you know what you're getting (sex for money) or she is a freebee that has sex with you because she's horny and thinks you're cool.[/quote]or you just learn to recognise it. it is pretty simple. the pros are the ones that generally speaking will not take a drink as they like to keep their heads clear for business.

[quote=jadedmd]and for the record, the owner at lounge 18 (or bund 18 as it says on the giant sign in front) is a dick but the women there were cool. the problem is that if the owner doesn't let you hit on the chicks in the venue, it's probably not worth going.[/quote]are but which floor? bund 18 has all kinds of places in. perhaps you were in the furniture store drunk?

by the way. you pay for threesomes?

enjoy christmas,

wgs

And treat them well

I was inspired by the long time lurker who posted for the first time, and I'm sort of in the same boat so I thought I may as well "pay some dues" to fellow mongerers.

Especially after the crackdowns on central Shanghai, the action is moving more and more away from the downtown. I remember when at BBS's around Zhongshan Park you could get good FS for 150-200. Now, you're lucky to get a smile.

Take Line 1 past Shanghai South Station, and the scenery changes dramatically. There are entire villages out there though not too familiar with foreigners, and they seem to be enclaves. Around Jinjiang park station, when you cross the bridge (easy to spot), there's a village of BBS's and they give excellent service. When getting out of the station, take the underpass to the south side and you'll start seeing the shops. Don't pay more than 200 as that's the standard, and enjoy. Speaking at least some Chinese is a must and it's always wise to keep nice relations with the ladies and their mama/papasan's, which I guess goes without saying for that kind of action.

On the other side the station you will see a big "Metro" megamart. Stroll over in that direction and there will be 3 or 4 shops, all offering FS, though the quality of the merch varies considerably. On a sidestreet near Metro, on Pubei lu, you'll find some oil massage places with very happy ending and nice girls who will let you do pretty much anything apart from FS. They're dressed nicely and there's a line up of 8-10 at any time of day. Cost is 150 for almost an hour and they have tiny private rooms and good attitude. |Those of you who have fond memories of Peacock will feel a tinge of nostalgia before agreeing this place may be worth the trip. The girls are all from Hainan so on the smallish side but generally have good attitude and if you repeat with one the service will be much better.

The area itself is full of gems though if you're unfamiliar it may take some wandering. For me personally, the process of exploring is an art of its own, so I don't intend to give specific addresses out on the forum, though I think the mongering game is changing in Shanghai. I've never really been into the whole "TRL" scene though can see why it suits those who are here for a short time and want instant action. As the areas around the downtown get more developed, you can see more action as it's at the stage where it's not too empty (read, 40 yo girls past their prime) and also not too full so that it brings about too much attention (xjh, jing'an). Prices are generally more fair and because they get more leeway (maybe thinner hongbao to their local LE) some of them get quite creative.

So if I'm allowed, I'd like to suggest doing a bit of trailblazing, and going further south. Wait till you hit xinzhuang, though that's a whole other post, for another day.

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I have been by Da Tong in the day and seen the construction. Actually looks quite nice, and I love the fact that the whole thing is below ground (apparently the building was built to be a shopping mall but was never used).

Looks like about 30 to 50 bars, small restaurants, and other small stores will be there. Some are already open (very few, and soft openings I suspect). Some TRL, Julu lu, and Huashan lu owners are setting up their new outfits there.

I have also talked with the owners of Woodstock (friends of mine) and they said they are going to open a nicer version of the bar there and they want to shed the TRL ripoff image. They promised it will still be fun, just less pushy and getting rid of the trouble-making girls, and they will be adding some "new features" to make it more fun. We'll see what that means.

There's another bar in the complex which will be called "Airplane bar" - it will be a theme bar and look like the inside of an airplane (the space itself is very long and very narrow). The owners I have heard are Americans, so hopefully they'll do a good job with it.

All the stores and bars there appear to be spending more on construction and the whole place has a sort of Chinese-Vegas kinda feel to it.

So, it looks like this is going to be a new and improved TRL. Let's hope the good times will be rolling there soon, and that it's more like the good old days of Maoming lu than TRL!

Anyone else heard anything?

-B-


Btw, Da Tong is on Julu lu near Chengdu lu. It's downstairs in the park with the clear bubble thing above it ...there is some kind of Armani type club there already, and it's the huge indoor/outdoor space next to that.

Thanks for very good information. I would put your report in Links to Reports of Distinction, but could not figure it out. I wish we got more reports like this and less BS reports about nothing. Now I know where to find my old Maoming, Julu, TRL girlfriends who now own the bars.

Thanks Context,

Nice and very helpful report. Please continue to share your experiences.
MD40

Nightwing here wishing to offer all my brothers in ISG Shanghai land a very merry Christmas and prosperous New year!

While I don't monger that often anymore because of work commitments, I've only been choosing the best environment I can when I do. That place would be Heting Elite (on 777 Siping Lu). Žl•½˜H777�†

Take Metro #8 line to Siping Lu Station, exit station and walk southwest on Siping about 200 metres to get to Heting. Outside of Heting is a black glass wall, that gives no description of what is going on inside. But, be prepared to be pampered once you do go in. Price is 698 after 5, 598 before 5. If you want a fapiao, be prepared to pay an extra 100 RMB. Yes, it is more expensive than the villages and BBS shops that charge 100-200RMB. But, this is what you get and this is why I like it more now.

1. Select from a bunch of girls that are pressured to give great service. The girls are on quota to have a customer select them by number at the front desk every month, otherwise their pay is deducted. So, they have perform and satisfy every customer fully and they want you to come back and remember their number. You usually pick from a group of about 5 to 10. The appearances range from 5 to 8, but the service is great.

2. Multiple Pops. Here is how you do it. As soon as you walk in the door, don't let the girl do the usual routine. Go straight to doing the deed, and the girl will oblige. After you are done, she will then continue with the usual routine, and at some point later in the session, you will have an opportunity to do it again! I usually do the girl twice, and once did her three times. Note to the wise: Don't do three times, unless you are young at heart. I almost fainted from the exertion.

3. Nicest environment by far. The sauna is clean and hot, the showers are clean and hot, the jacuzzi tub is clean and hot. The furnishings of Heting make it look more like a nightclub than a sauna; and I've been to quite a few saunas in Shanghai and China. By the way, did I mention it was clean?

4. Food. After the deed is done, you can relax in your private room with your buddies and order a light snack of noodles and dim sum with unlimited soft drinks or tea. Oh, and did I mention the price? It's free and included with the fee.

5. Discreet. They add a lot of nice touches as you are leaving. They will call a taxi for you if needed, so you just wait inside until your car arrives. If you drive to Heting, we've noticed that they also cover your license plates with a towel, so that no one can identify your car if they are walking by!

6. Managers. The managers are great and speak English. Always ask for Bob when you get there and he will make sure you have a great time. The managers also take the effort to follow up with you afterwards to make sure that you've enjoyed yourself and take notes to improve their service in the future. If more legitimate businesses in China made this type of effort, it would make working here in China that much better!

7. Only area of improvement I would add is that it would be great if they had free WiFi in the resting rooms as well!

Once again, merry Christmas, and keep posting the reports!

Nightwing

First, I really like to thank Nightwing88, very good report and advice! Actually I just came back from Heting where I got a very very nice moment. Indeed everything is like NW88 said, just one thing troubled me: everything was very very clean except one thing: the toilette XD, but I mean is still ok, I will go back. I can say that definitly, Heting is better than G18 and JinDing IMHO.

I had 153 in a line of 5 girls, not very cut (I would give her 6/10) but very good service I would give here 8/10, why not more: cause they don't do anal, so.1; and the girl talked a bit too much so the 2nd shot was a bit a rush (I can speak Chinese pretty well but also I might just blame myself for that)!

The reste is:

Attitude: 9/10, I never give 10

BBBJ: 8/10

Skin: 9/10, (very soft)

So overall I would give this girl a 8 or 8, 5/10, but so far it is my best experience I had in SH, so I would recommande that place very much!

Hope fully next time I'll go they have more girls, and above 6/10.

Merry Christmas all and happy mongering!

Please guys by the way be nice with the girls, thanks!

Thanks especially Nightwing, Shiva and Contex for excellent information I plan to explore as a Christmas gift to wo ziji right now.

Best wishes to all mongerers!!

There's a huge entertainment complex called 868, which includes a hotel, sauna (650 for the works though never tried it) at least 2 KTV's and a hotel. I used to be willing to pay close to that for B2 back in the day, but have a better source for the sauna experience now. More detail on that to follow in the next few days, so for now let's stick to that complex. Located just off Xizhuang station but tucked beside the huge bridge/overpass, off Xinzhu lu. Xinzhu lu itself has many little gems especially if you're into younger, more enthusiastic BBS ladies. I live near there and once when in a taxi, my wife commented "xinzhu lu looks like a bad street. I don't like it", which was just the thing I wanted to hear considering I don't live too far from there.

Anyway, the disco/bar at 868 is huge. Drinks are relatively cheap. I believe 6 bottles of tsingtao will run you 100, and a bottle of (godawful) wine is 70 (!), and although it's reminiscent of a local disco, the place is crawling with julu lu style talking girls. They drink with you out of little glasses, toasting and giggling. The hilarious thing is the last time we were there, all the girls were saying they want to marry foreigners. AFAIK, no other foreigners really frequent the place, so your prestige increases, as does the girls' enthusiasm because the place is generally dead. Even on a Saturday night, there are generally 2 groups or so, and most of the locals that go there order private KTV style rooms. I never really partook in the KTV experence as I'm generally with a small group of 2 or 3, and use the place as a watering hole for further mongering later.

As with most of these places, the girls will tease and entertain you, though with a little bit of Chinese language skill, they generally turn out to be quite candid. I personally found the old (no pun intended) julu girls to be slightly jaded and cynical, though who could blame them. I had recently befriended one of them. She was a cute little thing from Sichuan who had been working here for six months and had never been outside of that area. Basically, the girls work every day and don't really have a social life. Their pay is based on their work and a deposit system whereas they get their full salary after completing their contracts (which most of them never do). So I decided to take her out for a day of exploring the city, as she's a really sweet girl. She was great to hang out with and could have become a regular freebie, though it would have meant taking on an array of psychological and financial obligations. I'm married and live in that area, so it could have opened up a can of worms that woudl come back and haunt me. From what she'd told me most of the girls there are in a sort of "WG" purgatory/waiting list, looking for other work or testing the waters of that lifestyle. The conditions of the place are pretty crap and they seem to admire their ex-colleagues who went on to become mistresses or get waitress jobs at downtown bars. Sichuan girl is 19 and is happy enough to "have rice" two times a day and a roof over her head though once they clue into the reality of the game they start looking for better.

I highly recommend 868 for flirtation, especially if you're with a group of fellow mongerers. In addition to that the BBS's and faux saunas are within walking distance, some even attached to this mammoth entertainment complex. The BBS's charge 120-130 for FS, and if you become a regular the quality is excellent.

FS is not on the menu at 868 itself, but the ladies are keen to become "friends" and are able to go out and most of them seem to be happy to switch jobs. My Sichuan girl keeps asking me if I know any bars in the city center that are hiring, as she's keen to move on but wants something/someone to fall back on.

The management of this place is also desperate for business, it seems, and there's a total laissez faire attitude, especially since they MUST be losing loads of money. Those who've been in China for a while can recognize it as one of those mega projects some official had the bright idea of building that never quite turned into the next Las Vegas.

So find xinzhu lu near xinzhuang station, then take the big footbridge and you'll see this complex. It's one of the few places left in Shanghai which still has a sort of "anything goes" feel of a few years ago. It's a little bizarre, but is becoming a nice little home base. I need to pay some membership dues to the site then will get private messaging, so if anyone is interested could join them on a little expedition of the area. Just need to figure out a discrete way to do it without the missus finding out.

In any case, that's my 868 report. Blacklisted, or whover else is willing to brave the cold of Shanghai, take a walk around it and check out some of the places. As you head towards Yindu lu, you will be blown away (pun intended). I will post the faux sauna report soon.

Happy festivus!

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Hey my new found friends! I'm new to the site and after a day of surfing around, I found a lot of great info. Thanks a bunch! I'll start to contribute myself.

I'm more a fan of Tongren and bar scene, but wouldn't pass up a good BBS either. All the posts about the Tongren bars new locations has been very helpful, and will for sure save me a bunch of "aimless wondering".

One question for you experienced ones. How do you access this site within China? I'm currently back in the US for the holidays, but I'm sure this site would not get past the "great fire wall of China". Appreciate any tips.

Shanghai'ed Again!

Hey my new found friends! I'm new to the site and after a day of surfing around, I found a lot of great info. Thanks a bunch! I'll start to contribute myself.

I'm more a fan of Tongren and bar scene, but wouldn't pass up a good BBS either. All the posts about the Tongren bars new locations has been very helpful, and will for sure save me a bunch of "aimless wondering".

One question for you experienced ones. How do you access this site within China? I'm currently back in the US for the holidays, but I'm sure this site would not get past the "great fire wall of China". Appreciate any tips.

Shanghai'ed Again!

Search the forum for posts on VPN services. You will need one in China to get around the internet sphincter police. I use "Strong VPN," a paid service rather than a free service. It has been quite trustworthy for the past four months.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Shanghaied Again]Hey my new found friends! I'm new to the site and after a day of surfing around, I found a lot of great info. Thanks a bunch! I'll start to contribute myself.

I'm more a fan of Tongren and bar scene, but wouldn't pass up a good BBS either. All the posts about the Tongren bars new locations has been very helpful, and will for sure save me a bunch of "aimless wondering".

One question for you experienced ones. How do you access this site within China? I'm currently back in the US for the holidays, but I'm sure this site would not get past the "great fire wall of China". Appreciate any tips.

Shanghai'ed Again![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shanghaied Again]Hey my new found friends! I'm new to the site and after a day of surfing around, I found a lot of great info. Thanks a bunch! I'll start to contribute myself.

I'm more a fan of Tongren and bar scene, but wouldn't pass up a good BBS either. All the posts about the Tongren bars new locations has been very helpful, and will for sure save me a bunch of "aimless wondering".

One question for you experienced ones. How do you access this site within China? I'm currently back in the US for the holidays, but I'm sure this site would not get past the "great fire wall of China". Appreciate any tips.

Shanghai'ed Again![/QUOTE]


There has been a lot of posts on VPN and Proxy in the last few months. Please search the Shanghai board and perhaps the one on "living in China". Your best bet is to subscribe to a VPN service.

[QUOTE=Shanghaied Again]Hey my new found friends! I'm new to the site and after a day of surfing around, I found a lot of great info. Thanks a bunch! I'll start to contribute myself.

I'm more a fan of Tongren and bar scene, but wouldn't pass up a good BBS either. All the posts about the Tongren bars new locations has been very helpful, and will for sure save me a bunch of "aimless wondering".

One question for you experienced ones. How do you access this site within China? I'm currently back in the US for the holidays, but I'm sure this site would not get past the "great fire wall of China". Appreciate any tips.

Shanghai'ed Again![/QUOTE]Hi,

Witopia ([url]www.witopia.net[/url]) works for me. Their service is almost free (USD 60 per year), but seems to work better than other, completely free solutions. Needless to say, it is slow, but certainly perfectly adequate for sites with mostly text.

Fisherman

Another fantastic report and this is exactly what I am looking for right now after feeling a bit sad and jaded by the demise of the former sin city in light of the coming expo. I know EXACTLY what you mean when you write about the anything goes feel of Shanghai back then and it's a real tragedy to see it slide.

I hope your post does not attract the attentions of the wrong kind which could be disastrous for you considering it is your local and sounds brilliant. Have seen it happen a few too many times and it can happen in the blink of an eye.

I humbly recommend you keep some of these joints close to your chest and good thinking on not posting any specifics in the first report.

Would also urge you to get yourself signed up to this great forum so we can hook up for some hunting one eve.

Great stuff and look forward to exploring out there soon.


[QUOTE=Contex01]

In any case, that's my 868 report. Blacklisted, or whover else is willing to brave the cold of Shanghai, take a walk around it and check out some of the places. As you head towards Yindu lu, you will be blown away (pun intended). I will post the faux sauna report soon.

Happy festivus!

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[QUOTE=Mike666]There has been a lot of posts on VPN and Proxy in the last few months. Please search the Shanghai board and perhaps the one on "living in China". Your best bet is to subscribe to a VPN service.[/QUOTE]

I use Witopia and whilst the basic service plan at $39.99 gets me into ISG it stopped working for the likes of Facebook, Youtube and Twitter. I will have to upgrade to the $69.99 plan (SSL) or find another alternative.

Just my POV.

OAH

The wandering hunt. You know it well, and I think I would have stopped the whole game ages ago if there wasn't for the thrill of exploration. A few weeks ago, it was one of the last evenings still suitable for walking around, and with the missus on a business trip, I decided to check out a village nearby. On my way there, had a larger than expected joint (we all have our vices), making me slightly more excitable and hazy than expcted and found myself passing by what looks like a fairly large massage place.

I kind of wanted an oil massage with happy ending, and this seemed like just the place. From look of it I thought it would be legit though naughty enough to make it an evening. I enter and ask the manager about their service. Had to switch to Chinese as his English was "Hello, massagy" basic and he gave me two choices of package. 188 for oil and 368 for "total". Hmm. "total zen me yang? " to which he answers "sui bian". Good enough for me, so he takes me in through the foot massage area with blaring TV towards a mirror-door, up the stairs where there are 10 or so hotel style rooms, and tells me to wait while he fetches the girls. I ask if I can choose from a line up, and he seemed to hesitate at first before bringing 5 girls, ranging from 6-8. One slightly more voluptuous and warm looking caught my eye and after she went to get her little bag, I let her take the lead.

First step was shower, together, and she was quite attentive and ensured I was so fresh and so clean before taking me to the bed. Here, the service gets reminiscent of saunas, with cat bath as appetizer, followed by some very comfortable body sliding using her considerable rack. She was at first using baby powder and her technique was excellent. Next was AR before getting out some jello-type candy and using it all over me. The sensation was decent and it was my first time to experience it, and she was definitely a black belt in sauna-girl neck training. Not bad and "A" for effort on her part. Moved on to a very nice BJ followed by some DATY which she quite appreciated. On comes the rain coat and some enthusiastic action. The room is equipped with a mirror next to the bed and even though my attendant was from Shandong, you'd think she's a Shanghai princess with her love for watching herself in the mirror. Credit to her, she has excellent use of space as we ended up in several positions and moving all over the room. Finally took the condom off and she knew just how to manage the money shot as it landed all over her. The "hao da" turned into "hao duoo" which made me laugh. We chatted for a while over a cigarette and turns out there is a frenchman who enjoys frequenting the place on weekday mornings! I ask what time they open and she says 2 though you can reserve a girl by calling her. We also exchanged numbers and I got a customary "suana style" phone call a couple od days later to remind me that if I have time to come and play and be sure to ask for number 12. I only had one pop though afterwards she seemed to enjoy talking and there was no rush to leave, making me think the time could have been used for further action if I tried.

As I was leaving I saw a couple of other girls and a mamasan type that buzzed me to the main lobby. Damage was indeed 368 and after paying, the manager asked me to help myself to some complimentary candy at the register.among the batch were the very same jello things Lady 12 used on me, and after a second thought, opted for some awful tasting coffee stuff.

Exhausted and satisfied, walked back to xinzhuang station. Worth the visit for sure.

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I tried G18 twice over the past two weeks. Selection was acceptable in the afternoon but I didn't find any of the hotties others have mentioned. The place seems busy. The routine has been reported many times so I will skip it. I do find it disappointing that some of the rooms don't have any mirrors, and no mirror in the shower area. It'll be more fun to see yourself and the girl with the mirror.

1. 62, Dongbei girl, flirtatious and quite a talker. If you speak good Chinese and don't mind the girl talking her head off, she's great. A bit on the chubby side and small tits. I got a bit turned off when she tried to talk me into a duet after my tenth refusal.
FS: 8/10 (like that butt, but no anal)
BBBJ: 7/10
Attitude: 7~10/10, depends whether you just like the moaning or a bit of dirty talk.

2. Sichuan girl, no number as I forgot. Sorry
Very nice smile and good looking. Nice tits and quite willing to please.
FS: 7/10
BBBJ: 8/10
Attitude: 8/10

I only did one pop in both cases. Talked too much. Two or more pops should be fine as long as you have an understanding with the girl and keep things under control (ie: skip the cat bath). Has anyone try doing the girl in the soapie mattress?

G18 always sends a second girl for a 5 minutes try out when you first take a shower. I had the experience of having 89 and 99. 99 is a tall and slender Dongbei girl with a few small tattoos and fairly big tits (in such a slender frame). Didn't seem friendly but I am tempted to ask for her next time.

Damage 790 RMB with the VIP card.

Here's my questions:
1) The girls told me G18 used to have the famous fuck chair but has been taken apart (probably after a LE visit). Does anyone know another place with it?
2) Aside from 999, where would you recommend for a soapie place with comparable price and selection?

Cheers

[QUOTE=Fisherman2]Hi,

Witopia ([url]www.witopia.net[/url]) works for me. Their service is almost free (USD 60 per year), but seems to work better than other, completely free solutions. Needless to say, it is slow, but certainly perfectly adequate for sites with mostly text.

Fisherman[/QUOTE]

well... witopia's VPN does not work for me, and their customer service just stopped responding to me.

They gave me access to the PPTP service, which I am using right now for ISG. but I can't get to facebook with it.