Has anyone been in Spicy fingers yet? Its the newly opened Wan Chai Venue owned by the Sticky Fingers people. Opposite Joe Bananas on Jaffe Rd. (Used to be Rick's Cafe a decade ago)
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Has anyone been in Spicy fingers yet? Its the newly opened Wan Chai Venue owned by the Sticky Fingers people. Opposite Joe Bananas on Jaffe Rd. (Used to be Rick's Cafe a decade ago)
Just been to 37 Dundas, and what an experience! Went at 11 pm, and it was easy to find with the directions in the Maps forum and this post in reports of distinction: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=553684&postcount=4203[/url]
Up the stairs to the first floor and the mamasan was just as friendly as described. Led into a darkly lit but comfortable room with porn playing on a TV. Mamasan asked if I was interested in girls - duh? I'm Asian but only speak English, and it was no problem communicating with her. I got my choice of drink and she came back a few minutes later with just two girls. Both were cute, not stunning (7.5's I'd say, but cuter than most of the girls I saw at Fenwicks the other night), and I played eenie-minee-moe and chose the shorter one, Li An or something was her name. Paid the $490 to the mamasan and Li An took my hand and led me away.
After choosing, she was a bit shy, which worried me somewhat, but she started to LFK me, and we headed up the stairs to the 4th floor. The room she chose was clean and the bed looked comfy. There we kissed some more, and did the shower thing. She had a terrific body...just a nice handful of tits, that great 19-20 year old toned body with a hint of baby fat, nice ass.
And she gave a wonderful service in the shower and then in bed. Lots of kissing, rubbing her soapy body against mine, tender attention to all the sensitive bits of my body. All the acronyms available. Not quite total GFE service (a few kinda fake moans, and we couldn't really talk much) but really she gave fantastic head with rimming, changed positions easily, great DFK, and I finished with an explosive CIM. Cleaned up with another shower and then off on my way, with a smiling mamasan checking up as I was leaving to make sure I was satisfied.
The only problem I encountered was making my way back to the MTR on my wobbly legs after such a great lay.
This blew my Fenwicks experience out of the water. The girl was cuter, much more attentive and experienced, and the whole thing took an hour and half round trip from my hotel. If you are interested in sex and not the girlfriend nonsense, 37 Dundas is a terrific place and one of the best of my hobbying experiences. Especially recommended for visitors.
Enjoy, R.
[QUOTE=R The Man]Just been to 37 Dundas, and what an experience! Went at 11 pm, and it was easy to find with the directions in the Maps forum and this post in reports of distinction: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=553684&postcount=4203[/url]
Up the stairs to the first floor and the mamasan was just as friendly as described. Led into a darkly lit but comfortable room with porn playing on a TV. Mamasan asked if I was interested in girls - duh? I'm Asian but only speak English, and it was no problem communicating with her. I got my choice of drink and she came back a few minutes later with just two girls. Both were cute, not stunning (7.5's I'd say, but cuter than most of the girls I saw at Fenwicks the other night), and I played eenie-minee-moe and chose the shorter one, Li An or something was her name. Paid the $490 to the mamasan and Li An took my hand and led me away.
After choosing, she was a bit shy, which worried me somewhat, but she started to LFK me, and we headed up the stairs to the 4th floor. The room she chose was clean and the bed looked comfy. There we kissed some more, and did the shower thing. She had a terrific body...just a nice handful of tits, that great 19-20 year old toned body with a hint of baby fat, nice ass.
And she gave a wonderful service in the shower and then in bed. Lots of kissing, rubbing her soapy body against mine, tender attention to all the sensitive bits of my body. All the acronyms available. Not quite total GFE service (a few kinda fake moans, and we couldn't really talk much) but really she gave fantastic head with rimming, changed positions easily, great DFK, and I finished with an explosive CIM. Cleaned up with another shower and then off on my way, with a smiling mamasan checking up as I was leaving to make sure I was satisfied.
The only problem I encountered was making my way back to the MTR on my wobbly legs after such a great lay.
This blew my Fenwicks experience out of the water. The girl was cuter, much more attentive and experienced, and the whole thing took an hour and half round trip from my hotel. If you are interested in sex and not the girlfriend nonsense, 37 Dundas is a terrific place and one of the best of my hobbying experiences. Especially recommended for visitors.
Enjoy, R.[/QUOTE]
Great report and good points, which is 37 Dundas blows Fenwicks and bars like it out of the water (and other places like it in Mong Kok)--I have been saying this for years. To each their own, I guess some guys like the hunt and paying way overpriced prices for sex at HK island bars. I know guys will flame me for this but paying 1,000, 1,500 or more for Thai and Flip girls at HK island bars is insane. Especially when these same girls cost next to nothing if you had sex with them in their own country. Mong Kok has flip and Thai girls at YS for around 300.
I guess I am pissed off (just kidding, I am not really) because sex was cheap in HK island bars years ago (ok, many years ago). That's right, at HK island bars these girls would charge 300, 500 tops. But, then came the guys who started bidding up the prices, giving too big of tips, and the girls quickly figured out that the guys on sex vacation had money to burn. They asked higher and higher prices and guys paid it. That's when I stopped going to the HK island side for sex.
It is really starting to get out of control. When I was taking an evening walk in the Tsim Sha Tsui area, a street walker offered her services for HK$800, I told her sorry, I am not a tourist and I live in HK. She smiled and said, ok how about HK$400. This is a true story that proves my point.
The reason I bring this up is because PLEASE don't tip the girls at 37 Dundas, they do not expect it and they get well paid for what they do. By giving a tip (some guys I know have given these girls 100, 200, or more--yikes), will drive up prices at 37 Dundas. Let's keep 37 Dundas pure and free from the HK island inflation virus. : - )
Thanks...I wanted to tip because the service was so good, but resisted because of respect for the locals like you...the research in these forums gives you a good idea of prices and a good visitor should respect those.
R.
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]Great report and good points, which is 37 Dundas blows Fenwicks and bars like it out of the water (and other places like it in Mong Kok)--I have been saying this for years. To each their own, I guess some guys like the hunt and paying way overpriced prices for sex at HK island bars. I know guys will flame me for this but paying 1,000, 1,500 or more for Thai and Flip girls at HK island bars is insane. Especially when these same girls cost next to nothing if you had sex with them in their own country. Mong Kok has flip and Thai girls at YS for around 300.
I guess I am pissed off (just kidding, I am not really) because sex was cheap in HK island bars years ago (ok, many years ago). That's right, at HK island bars these girls would charge 300, 500 tops. But, then came the guys who started bidding up the prices, giving too big of tips, and the girls quickly figured out that the guys on sex vacation had money to burn. They asked higher and higher prices and guys paid it. That's when I stopped going to the HK island side for sex.
It is really starting to get out of control. When I was taking an evening walk in the Tsim Sha Tsui area, a street walker offered her services for HK$800, I told her sorry, I am not a tourist and I live in HK. She smiled and said, ok how about HK$400. This is a true story that proves my point.
The reason I bring this up is because PLEASE don't tip the girls at 37 Dundas, they do not expect it and they get well paid for what they do. By giving a tip (some guys I know have given these girls 100, 200, or more--yikes), will drive up prices at 37 Dundas. Let's keep 37 Dundas pure and free from the HK island inflation virus. : - )[/QUOTE]
This place is located on the west side of Nathan Rd, just below TST Sauna. I was actually heading for the latter place, but got waylaid into KK Sauna. That is obviously why they sited the place there, as I can't think of any other way they might attract clientele. The place is dirty, the girls the most unattractive I have ever seen in such a place, and some of the most unattractive P4P girls in my mongering experience. Old, overweight and very far from good-looking. The Chinese girls were a complete loss, and I was stuck with a 5 from Thailand. Service was just about average. Cost was $800. I felt so bad in the place I tried to opt for a hj, but was told the price was the same.
There is an adjoining bar, which I was told had topless girls. Who knows? Who cares?
I definitely will not go there again. One of my worst experiences ever.
AL
[QUOTE=R The Man]Both were cute, not stunning (7.5's I'd say, but cuter than most of the girls I saw at Fenwicks the other night), .[/QUOTE]
But you don't go to Fenwicks to pick up 'most of the girls'. The object is to go after the girls that are remaining once you ignore 'most of the girls'. That subset is going to be far better quality than the stuff you find in Mongkok.
And I have experienced the MKK scene many a time. I for one am only into it if I want a wham bam experience. I'd much rather take a girl back to my place and enjoy myself in the comfort on my home. And also with a girl I know will be far more attractive than a MKK working girl.
Ok I finally have some time to write up my experience from last Sunday.
First of all I did use the Wanchai Discos.jpg located under the map section. I printed it out and and folded it up into my back pocket. Very fucking useful.
OK I landed in HK at early Sunday AM. I checked into my TST hotel. And did a TST walk around. Around 9am I started calling some 141 girls. No answers from my top 10 list. Damn. Went and ate breakfast. At 10am I called again and got down to #4 on my list. Michelle. You can see her at sex 141.com website. She is hotel reservation in TST. You can also see my write up there in the forums. Had her delivered to my hotel at noon. $800 incl. Tip for a nice time in my room. She was there a little over an hour. Hot body and I snapped some of my own pics.
Then at 2 I went to Wanchai. Now remember this is really my first time in HK mongering. So all this is written in noob format. First up was Lagunas. I got there around 3pm and was told this place was the busiest early on Sunday. I grabbed a corona and took a stroll around. There were tons of girls in there dancing. Most of the them were phili and looked like they were dancing on their days off. Most in groups of 5 to 8 girls dancing in circles. And most of their bodies and faces were (4-5s and I am being kind). You can tell there was the WG in there and some were upwards of 6s. But nothing I wanted to think about. Although it had been 2 hours since my first pop and I was on the prowl.
Left Lagunas and headed to Jafee road with map in hand. Lots of girls walking around. And it was raining out. By Dusk til dawn. Closed, then by Joe bananas, it was open but didn't seem like anyone was in there. Then I finally came to Neptunes. Could see it was coming up based on my map, then saw the huge neon sign hanging across the road that said NEPTUNES. Went down the stairs into Neptunes. About 15 girls dancing. Nothing good. I sat down got a Corona. And watched the dancing a bit. A girl came by and smiled at me and said Hi. (I had been here 2 mins maybe). I smiled but then turned around to bar. So she walked off. Then after perusing the dance floor and not seeing anything I turned back around to where she had gone and sat and gave her a big smile. She was out of her barstool and at my side faster then a fly on shit. She spread my legs and stood in between them. Face about a 6. Body a 7. Very short, no tits and great ass from the phili. We made small talk. She wanted a margarita really bad. LOL. So I bought us 2. Now remember this is my first time to any place like this. And its 4:30 PM by now. So its early. 2 margaritas are served and its 138 HKD. WOW. So she starts hugging up on me. I start grabbing her ass. With both hands. Fucking nice ass. And I am grabbing under her small skirt on bare ass. And its fucking nice. But her face is soso and she has NO tits. She slams the drink before I can blink. And one thing that is funny is the waitress that is standing next to us slips money into her back pocket but has to push my hand out of the way to slide it in. I know they get paid for the drinks but this was damn funny. Immediate commision. So I ask her if she wants to have some fun. She asks ST or LT. Now I had read about ST and LT and know the terms but she quoted ST or LT. Remember I am noob. But it was funny. So I say ST. She says how much. And I ask her if she wants me to set the price. She says yes. I say 500 HKD. She says 1k. I say 500. She says 750. I tell her 500 and we have to go to TST so I would give her 100 to get back. And I told her it would be good deal because she would be back in an hour or so aroun 6pm when things picked up. So she goes and talks to mamasan on other side of bar. She comes back and says 700. I say no 500 + taxi and thats it. She leaves again and comes back and says 500 but we have to go to ST hotel near by. How much is that. She say 188. Well fuck thats 700 again. I say no. 500. She grabs me and kisses me and is begging. I look at mamasan and give her a shoulder shrug. Mamasan is blowing kisses and winking. I wave byebye and get up and leave. As I get to the door there is a big fucking phili guy blocking the door with this cart and he say Non-member price. 500HKD. And puts to the sign on the cart. I say huh. I am leaving not coming in. He says exit fee. I am like WTF. Exit Fee? So I start laughing and tell him thats funny and start to walk out and seriously blocks me and says pay the 500. I am like dude, WTF. I aint paying shit. And I was planning on coming back in a bit for a chick but if you treat me like this I aint never coming back. He then starts laughing and says he is joking and lets me out. I am a young white guy by myself here early on Sunday afternoon. I am not sure if he was joking or not. But I got out and didn't pay shit. Even though he was quoting the fucking fake entrance fees. Bastard.
I left Neptunes and went to Fenwicks. Band was playing and it was about 5pm. As I got in there not one person was there. The bartender was trying to get me to order a drink and the band was welcoming me. I asked when people started showing up and she said 8 or 9. Byebye.
Went across street with map in hand to Dreams. Went downstairs and lots of chicks dancing. Lots. Had a beer there and scoped out the action. Saw a hot asian chick. Wanted to dance with her but she was acting snobby. So I just scoped floor. Saw a fellow white monger in there. We were only two guys. Went and talked to him. See how he was faring today. Soso. We got a drink and chatted abit more. Then we went to floor and danced a bit. Tons of pushy chicks here. Grabbing and shit. We were only here for about 20 mins. Then we left adn went to Makati as he said he was there earlier and it was nice. Went upstairs and once inside on the way to the bar I saw this HOT chick in this tight pink shirt dancing. She was eyeing me down. Now there were tons of fucking people in here and lots of both guys and girls dancing. I think mostly indonesian chicks here. I get a drink and stand at edge of dancefloor. This pink shirt chick is dancing away and I am staring. Then this other guy walks up and tries to grab her for a dance and she pushes him away hard. Like he has the plague. HMMM, not sure whats going on here. So I stand there drinking and just when I am finishing she turns to me and winks. Two words. Fuck. Yeah.
I run to the floor and instantly start grinding on her hard. She has me all worked up in minutes. This ***** is hot and has long shiny hair and is whipping it alll around. We dance for about 30 minutes and I ask her if I can get her a drink. She says not yet. HMMMMM. We dance for a bit more, then I need some water. So I pull her off to the bar. I ask her what she wants and she gets OJ. I start talking to her. She is from Indo. She is so fucking cute and a tight body. After we talked a bit it was about 7:30 and she says she has to go. HMMMMM. I say ok, lets go. So we are walking outside and she needs to catch the bus. After talking a bit more she ends up being a maid working in Kowloon city. Has lived in HK for 3 years. And has to be home by 8. I aint letting this one get away. I ride the bus home with her and drop her off at her house and set up a date. She has off Wednesday for moon festival. Great its my last day in town. She shows up at my hotel Wednesday morning early. And we spend the whole day in bed. Until 730 ish when she has to get home. Damn. I know I wanted a freebie. But shit this one is awesome.
Anyways, just thought I would share the experience.
I also did some more 141 during my stay. I will try and write up in a bit. Hope you guys didn't find I rambled too much.
Peace!
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[QUOTE=Hk Dog]But you don't go to Fenwicks to pick up 'most of the girls'. The object is to go after the girls that are remaining once you ignore 'most of the girls'. That subset is going to be far better quality than the stuff you find in Mongkok.
And I have experienced the MKK scene many a time. I for one am only into it if I want a wham bam experience. I'd much rather take a girl back to my place and enjoy myself in the comfort on my home. And also with a girl I know will be far more attractive than a MKK working girl.[/QUOTE]
You take the words out of my mouth. There are times you don't have time, don't want to drink, and just want a quick and dirty session.
But on the other hand, when you can pull a diamond out of a place like Fenwicks and set yourself up for more than a brief one hour session, well that is what mongering is all about. Of course not everyone wants to go for that girl friend type experience. We do pay them to leave after all.
I also do not recomend this sauna. I went there 3 or 4 of times and and each time was worse then before.
last time the girl was pushing me for extras and anything on offer was 200HKD. Next door a guy was negotiating a HJ and was being pushed for FS. (...was it you??) I was offered to watch. For 200HKD of course.
In the end i just walked off paying 468hkd.
I had much nicer experience in the sauna above.
[QUOTE=Autumn Lover]This place is located on the west side of Nathan Rd, just below TST Sauna. I was actually heading for the latter place, but got waylaid into KK Sauna. That is obviously why they sited the place there, as I can't think of any other way they might attract clientele. The place is dirty, the girls the most unattractive I have ever seen in such a place, and some of the most unattractive P4P girls in my mongering experience. Old, overweight and very far from good-looking. The Chinese girls were a complete loss, and I was stuck with a 5 from Thailand. Service was just about average. Cost was $800. I felt so bad in the place I tried to opt for a hj, but was told the price was the same.
There is an adjoining bar, which I was told had topless girls. Who knows? Who cares?
I definitely will not go there again. One of my worst experiences ever.
AL[/QUOTE]
as with anything in life, 141 girls will lie about their information they post on 141 websites. case-in-point, on s_x141 website, a girl goes by the name of "magic bed & p_ssy." her listed price is $100 and her listed age is 26. in past, she has gone by different names and she sales herself as do any type of sex girl--i mean anything, ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in mouth, anal with toys, sex show, etc).
with not much to do one evening and wanting to see a good sex show, i decided to pay her a visit. well, when she opened the door (with no cloths on) i could tell she was not 26. she took me by the arm and pulled me in. hum, i said, ok, let's give this a try. i asked her what do i get for 100, she said hj. i told her i could do that myself for free. she said i could have the works for 300. she stated this included anal, sex, bj, a sex show (which consisted of putting things up her p_ussy).
well, to make a long story short, after the poor anal, sex show, and a quick jam of toys of her p_ssy, and a rushed bj, we started talking. she told me how she was married to a hong kong guy and she sold sex to help pay the bills, had an operation, etc., etc., ....... ya ya. then she mentioned she was sad because next month she was going to be 41 and this is her life! 41 i said, in your posting you said you are 26. she smiled and said she has to compete with younger women so she lowers her price and lie about her age. oh well.
before i left, she offered to tell me her complete life story for 100 more. of course, i had no interest. take my word for it, she is a waste of time and money.
Good report Jayson. I guess you were pushing the deal too hard and the bouncer decided to have a laugh with you. He was probably Nepali by the way. It sounds like you had a good introduction to the Wanch, good luck to you. I'm looking forward to next Sunday as I've not been free at the weekend for a while. Hope to find a hot Indo, I too got a feebie from New Makati a while ago and they can be awesome!
Hey all,
I am heading to HongKong / Macau at the end of the year - got 4 nights in total. Was planning on staying 2 nights at Macau and 2 nights in HK.
Which is the better place to stay - both entertainment clubs/bars and women?
Accomondation has not been arranged yet but its in the plans at the moment
This will be the first time heading there, so any advice would be great !
Cheers!
Poonjas,
First, RTF (read the forum) and your questions will be answered.
Long story short: HK has more diverse and usually cheaper (but also some more expensive) mongering options. Some people say Macau's girls are hotter. I think they're about the same.
As far as accommodations, both HK and Macau have super-expensive luxury hotels and cheap shyteholes. It depends on how much you want to spend and what kind of services you like. Also, Macau has gambling.
If you don't like one or the other, they are a 1-hour ferry ride apart so you can remain flexible. After reading the forum, feel free to ask specific questions which are more likely to be answered.
Welcome to our fair city. Have fun and good luck.
Johnny Rocket
Just a quick one guys, dont like to beat around.
Normal bars - FUCKING EXPENSIVE!!! 50HKD/Pint!! WTF?!?!!??! (coming from china ;) )
Titty Bars - Found one fun one from the lot of them, Kings Club. 25HKD for a beer and all Thai birds. Nice!!! Rest of them are full of shit girls and arsehole Honky Mamas!!
Flippers - first night, took 2 birds at once. Total GFE, LT, big tits, ugly faces (dont care), and settled for 750HKD each in the morning!!!!
second night, beautiful girl but didnt have any condoms so only BBBJ & Hj. LT with 2nd pop in the morning. paid 1000HKD!!!!!
3rd Night - Grabbed a Kenyan girl from Fenwicks. 1000HKD all up. BBBj, FS, pretty much every thing else as well.
To conclude, great time but Hong Kong is very fucking expensive. Carnegies, 6-7pm, 25HKD/pint stella, carlsberg, etc. best deal in town!!!
Sid
PS, thanks to the guys who PMd
Hi Guys,
I saw 1-6-1 girl "Dream" who is in 3/F A, 6 Mercer St Sheung Wan. I chose her because she's decent looking but also because of her cute little tuft of pubic hair. I don't like shaved or trimmed so much but I love that little Chinese muff you sometimes see which doesn't cover the whole mound. Too cute!
Anyway, she was sweet and talkative, and allowed FK but not really DFK. I did my usual routine. One good thing, when she moved to roll on the condom for CBJ I asked for BBBJ. At first she was hesitant but she went ahead and did it, and did it pretty well. Then 69, DATY, then on to fucking in several positions. She loved it and ate it up. I noticed that she is one of the few women who can come from intercourse. The same contractions I felt when I DATY, I could feel once in a while when plowing her doggy style. So that was interesting.
Pretty nice experience. Worth the 380.
And she had a nice stack of towels. It used to be that 1-4-1s all had stack of towels and you could use a different one for the post-coital shower. But lately I've been to a few that not only were not adequately stocked with towels, the ones they did have were small, once only hand towels! How can I dry off with that once, let alone twice? WTF? Anyway.
[QUOTE=Tiger 888]Has anyone been in Spicy fingers yet? Its the newly opened Wan Chai Venue owned by the Sticky Fingers people. Opposite Joe Bananas on Jaffe Rd. (Used to be Rick's Cafe a decade ago)[/QUOTE]Was in Spicey Fingers in Wednesday Night at around 3am I think. Not sure what deal is there (i.e Commission Drinks). Band is rather good and DJ is not bad also.
The place was not very crowed at this time.
Guys,
I will travel in November for 5 days and for the very first time to Hongkong. A question to the experts, what would you recommend: a hotel in HK Island or Kowloon. I like the hotel being close to the girlie bars or pick-up places and am still not sure - even after reading some reports - which location is better to enjoy my short stay to the best.
And redcommendations welcome. Heavily appreciated ...
G
I have visited Hong Kong many times this last year, and it is perhaps the best mongering destination in Asia - if not the world. It may not have the best - Macau probably takes that mark, or the cheapest, but it certainly has great variety at a reasonable cost.
I wll summarize my experiences at the various options I have tried.
Hotels
I have stayed in a number of five stars, and all were girl friendly. I have been tailgated (girl wandering the halls follows you right into your room) several times at the Island Shangri La), and have tried calling escort services. Escort services are a ripoff in Hong Kong.
141s
This is the only city I know of that has an online guide like ******. Most of these girls rent tiny apartments from the underworld, and provide FS for $300 - 500. My favorite building is the Fuji Building on Lockhart a few blocks east of Wanchai. For these girls you just show up. Take the elevator to the top and walk down, checking out each floor and the girls therein. Knock on the door and they will open it to give you a look - like what you see go in, take a shower and get to business. Don't like it, just keep going. Routine is pretty much the same, shower together, CBJ, FS. Once in a blue moon a BBBJ. Wide variety of girl quality - some very good, some a bit shopworn. Photo's on 141 are authentic, but the photographer is very talented - I think he once shot my wife and make her look fuckable. The 141 buildings are quite safe. They are controlled by the underworld, and they don't shit where they eat.
I generally prefer the Hotel Reservation Girls who price out higher. They tend to be of much higher quality, sometimes playmate quality. Most of them are in hotels in Tsim Tsa Tsui, or Causeway Bay, although the hotels are often one more subway stop from the destination where they are listed. You call the number, they almost always have someone on the other side who speaks english - just hold on a minute if you can't communicate and someone will come on. They tell you the hotel, you go there and call again and they tell you the room number. The hotels are all nice, four star hotels, and there seem a few that they use extensively. The experience is about the same as a 141, not quite as rushed, sometimes a bit more GFE - depends on the girl.
Hotel girls come in several varieties. Most are Chinese mainland girls and the charge is 700 - 900. They usually speak little or no english. Chinese girls that cost over $1000 are usually local girls - who command this price because they speak Cantonese and the local guys are hoping for a LTR. Skip the local girls. There are also Koreans, who tend to cost about $1,000, and usually speak some English and can be very good value. There are often a few white girls - usually Russian or some other Eastern European who cost $800 - 1000. The high end are Japanese girls. They cost as much as $1,500, and many are absolutely stunning. The photography does enhance reality a bit, but they may be some of the most beautiful women you will ever sleep with. However, many seem highly clinical in the process, and leave me feeling a bit unsatisfied. Modern medical science has also enhanced these girls to the point where they do not feel natural. All in all, the Japanese girls are a worthwhile one time experience.
37 Dundas
This is basically a KTV that operates in conjunction with a short term hotel upstairs to function as a basic *****house. Price is low - under $500 if I recall correctly. Girls are typical of 141s, but quite well trained and enthusiastic. I always end up with a BBBJ and usually have to slow then down since they seem interested in following that up with BBFS. Good if you are in the neighborhood, but you get the feeling these girls have a lot of work.
Wanchai Bars
When I am in the mood for a little conversation with my sex, the Wanchai bars are the best option. The two places I have gone are Fenwicks and Neptune II. I like Neptune a bit better because it is smaller, and the closer proximity to the girls as you wander through makes engaging and disengaging from negotiations easier. Neither place charges foreigners admission. The places are full of girls after about 9 pm. They seem to sort out by nationality - one corner will be Thai, another Filipino, another white girls and perhaps Indonesians and Vietnamese. Nearly all the girls speak english. The quality is quite variable, but there often are some real stunners in there. Prices are higher than the other options, but negotiable. I generally spend about $1000. Because I usually stay with a friend in Hong Kong, I usually take the girls to one of the nearby love hotels which charge me another $160 for a room for an hour or so. I have had some excellent GFEs with these girls - always a BBBJ and usually an offer, declined, for BBFS.
Hong Kong, lots of choices. Perhaps the best place to get laid in the world.
Worm
Outstanding report, thank you. You provided more useful information in one report than the accumulated total of all the reports I have read in the last 2 or 3 years. And I RTFF almost every day.
[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]Just a quick one guys, dont like to beat around.
Normal bars - FUCKING EXPENSIVE!!! 50HKD/Pint!! WTF?!?!!??! (coming from china ;) )
Titty Bars - Found one fun one from the lot of them, Kings Club. 25HKD for a beer and all Thai birds. Nice!!! Rest of them are full of shit girls and arsehole Honky Mamas!!
Flippers - first night, took 2 birds at once. Total GFE, LT, big tits, ugly faces (dont care), and settled for 750HKD each in the morning!!!!
second night, beautiful girl but didnt have any condoms so only BBBJ & Hj. LT with 2nd pop in the morning. paid 1000HKD!!!!!
3rd Night - Grabbed a Kenyan girl from Fenwicks. 1000HKD all up. BBBj, FS, pretty much every thing else as well.
To conclude, great time but Hong Kong is very fucking expensive. Carnegies, 6-7pm, 25HKD/pint stella, carlsberg, etc. best deal in town!!!
Sid
PS, thanks to the guys who PMd[/QUOTE]
I agree that HK can be very expensive but......this is only on HK island and other tourist areas like Tsim ShaTSui, and Jordan. On average, I pay 350 or less to get laid several times a week from nice looking girls in Yau Ma Tei, Mong Kok, Prince Edward, Sham Shui Po, and Chueng Sha Wan. These are the blue-collar Chinese man area's for sex. I can assure you the locals never pay the tourist prices.
Try staying in the Yau Ma Tei-Mong kok area next time. A good hotel there is YMCA International House at 23 Waterloo Road, phone 2771-9111. It is a nice hotel that is well located near 37 Dundas, and many 141s in the area, and many YS. Best, there is the MRT 5 min. walking distance from the hotel and you can get to many places in HK in a very short time.
[url]www.intlhouse.ymca.org.hk[/url]
e:mail, [email]intlhse@ymca.org.hk[/email]
The hotel is girl friendly, however, you have to have the girl sign-in when it is late in the night. This is for your protection and there is NO charge.
Also, don't let the name fool you, it is a nice hotel.
Also, very important, when you make a reservation, ask for the newer rooms--it will cost a little more, but it is worth it. When my friend from the U.S. stayed at the hotel last month, he paid $75 a night and he liked it.
[QUOTE=Worm]Hotel girls come in several varieties. Most are Chinese mainland girls and the charge is 700. 900. They usually speak little or no english. Chinese girls that cost over $1000 are usually local girls. Who command this price because they speak Cantonese and the local guys are hoping for a LTR. Skip the local girls. There are also Koreans, who tend to cost about $1,000, and usually speak some English and can be very good value. There are often a few white girls. Usually Russian or some other Eastern European who cost $800. 1000. The high end are Japanese girls. They cost as much as $1, 500, and many are absolutely stunning. The photography does enhance reality a bit, but they may be some of the most beautiful women you will ever sleep with. However, many seem highly clinical in the process, and leave me feeling a bit unsatisfied. Modern medical science has also enhanced these girls to the point where they do not feel natural. All in all, the Japanese girls are a worthwhile one time experience. [/QUOTE]That xxxxxx website employs a very skillful Photoshop person. I once had a girl who had an entire abdomen tattoo (12 inches by 6 inches) photoshopped out of her photos. Be careful if you only see studio pics instead of photos taken in the actual hotel room.
Also, I think it is worthwhile to note that the "Japanese" girls advertised on that website are more likely from somewhere else (like Korea). At least that seems to be the consensus on the Chinese language boards. Of the dozen or so I tried, there was only one that I though could have been Japanese (a dead giveaway is the Korean-language cometics & toiletry). Nonetheless, they are mostly stunners, but YMMV.
[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]Just a quick one guys, dont like to beat around.
Normal bars - FUCKING EXPENSIVE!!! 50HKD/Pint!! WTF?!?!!??! (coming from china ;) )
Titty Bars - Found one fun one from the lot of them, Kings Club. 25HKD for a beer and all Thai birds. Nice!!! Rest of them are full of shit girls and arsehole Honky Mamas!!
To conclude, great time but Hong Kong is very fucking expensive. Carnegies, 6-7pm, 25HKD/pint stella, carlsberg, etc. best deal in town!!!
[/QUOTE]
A bit off-topic, but if they are charging 25 HKD for a pint of anything, then this is close to a loss leader for them during this happy hour. The problem with the price of booze in HK is the very high rate of tax the HK Government collects. Even though the tax on beer and wine (but not spirits) was cut, somewhat, in the last Budget, the suppliers have not really passed these supposed savings onto consumers, and bars have done next to nothing to lower prices. (You should check out the miniscule size of a "glass" of wine in some restaurants: there is also no standard measure of wine and/or spirits in HK, and the institution of one is STRONGLY resisited by the powerful catering lobby.)
This is a rip-off, certainly, but tobacco is the drug of choice for most of the population of HK (read: Chinese) not alcohol, so there is not much incentive or pressure to do anything about it. And that's why the tax on cigarettes continues to be relatively low compared to that on booze. Even though the Government could quite realistically make more money by proportionally reversing the tax (low tax on alcohol, high tax on tobacco) they are too afraid to do it, just as they are chickens$$t about most things.
Even private clubs (which are susidized by member's subscription fees) are typically charging 28-30 HKD a pint for locally brewed Carlsberg. Makes those ladies' drinks seem even more extortionate.
[QUOTE=MegaPoint]A bit off-topic, but if they are charging 25 HKD for a pint of anything, then this is close to a loss leader for them during this happy hour. The problem with the price of booze in HK is the very high rate of tax the HK Government collects. Even though the tax on beer and wine (but not spirits) was cut, somewhat, in the last Budget, the suppliers have not really passed these supposed savings onto consumers, and bars have done next to nothing to lower prices. (You should check out the miniscule size of a "glass" of wine in some restaurants: there is also no standard measure of wine and/or spirits in HK, and the institution of one is STRONGLY resisited by the powerful catering lobby.)
This is a rip-off, certainly, but tobacco is the drug of choice for most of the population of HK (read: Chinese) not alcohol, so there is not much incentive or pressure to do anything about it. And that's why the tax on cigarettes continues to be relatively low compared to that on booze. Even though the Government could quite realistically make more money by proportionally reversing the tax (low tax on alcohol, high tax on tobacco) they are too afraid to do it, just as they are chickens$$t about most things.
Even private clubs (which are susidized by member's subscription fees) are typically charging 28-30 HKD a pint for locally brewed Carlsberg. Makes those ladies' drinks seem even more extortionate.[/QUOTE]25HKD for a beer is really not too expensive if you think about it. USD3.50 or so. Even in the states, a beer at a pub is gonna cost more than that, unless you're drinking Pabst or something. Of course, 50HKD for a beer is highway robbery.
Cheapest way to drink in HK is pop on over to the 7-11 and buy a 4-pack. Should run anywhere between 22HKD - 30HKD depending on what brand you prefer. Take it home and drink it there. Alternatively, you can take it to your favorite 141 girl's place and drink with her there (my preferred method of cheap drinking).
First of all, I didnt mean to complain at the 25HKD/pint, I thought that was a great deal, especially for stella which is 35rmb in China in the cheapest place i know.
Also, Cosmopolitan Hotel was Girl Friendly. There was a guard at a small desk by the elevators but all she had to do was register. No charge, but the girl was real scared in case they pass her P'port number to authorities. I told her it was just to stop her robbing me. The next night, the guard wasnt even there and the two girls we had, got up hassle free.
Did I mention Neptunes II wanted 150HKD for me and my friend to enter? No thanks, despite what ive heard about the place!! And yes, I do realise that locals and regulars were getting in for free, but that was one thing I didnt particularly like about HK; Bouncers on doors!!
Sid,
I don't frequent the bars, but you are correct, there is no need to pay cover charges or whatever. HK is not Japan where everything is more difficult and expensive and restricted for the gaijin. However, Hong Kongers will rip you off if they think they have half a chance to do it. Don't give in--there are too many choices here to be taken advantage of. Tell them to go fuck themselves.
I had just return from Trip to China, I had a nights stay going and coming from the states.
Arrive Tuesday 9/25 in the morning, went to hotel and got cleaned up, spent the better part of day doing tourist stuff. Onway back to Hotel stop by Sticky Fingers for a beer. Ran into some guys from US, suggested I come back later. Came back around 8 PM, bar was packed with lots of guys and about 15 girls. Most were fairly good looking 5-8's. Unfortunately I was seated at the bar next to the most obnoxious person I had ever met. He insulted everyone and he would not leave. So there was no place to move to so I left.
On way back to Regal Kowloon in the courtyard between it and Grand Staford I was approached by Mamasan who had 5 girls in tow.
I was tired and gave in with out bargaining 800HKD, (sorry I am newbie to this board) and I should know to haggle her down on price but was just to tired. Girl was very nice and I had typical treatment, showwer, massage and almost GFE experience.
Once I got to China, I told my host about this, he warned me not to do this because in HK some girls might call police and claim you attacked them. Is this true? I have read this board and not seen any warnings about this.
On my way back from China, I had overnite in HK again, this time however I did not get back to hotel until 12:30 1:00 AM in morning. I was not going out. However next to evelator in regal kowlloon is coffee shop. As I walk to elevator from front desk, I was met by a nice smile from Susan. I could not resist. Another 800HKD and repeat of Tuesday nights activities
As I mentioned I am newbie and only get to HK once or twice a year. This board is valuable resource, thanks to all the frequent contributors.
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[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]Did I mention Neptunes II wanted 150HKD for me and my friend to enter? No thanks, despite what ive heard about the place!! And yes, I do realise that locals and regulars were getting in for free, but that was one thing I didnt particularly like about HK; Bouncers on doors!![/QUOTE]
Live here long enough and you learn you can't respect and appreciate the bouncers enough. I, for one, am extremely happy with them. They are very efficient of getting drunk rude dickheads out of the clubs quickly and breaking up cock fights. Also they are generally nice guys to talk to.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Live here long enough and you learn you can't respect and appreciate the bouncers enough. I, for one, am extremely happy with them. They are very efficient of getting drunk rude dickheads out of the clubs quickly and breaking up cock fights. Also they are generally nice guys to talk to.[/QUOTE]Well living in China long enough has obviously made me forget about the sort of chaff I would associate with the high streets of England. We very rarely see any fights up here in the bars. Admitedly though, it is clear that when you have so many WGs in one place, theres always going to be trouble whether it be Male/Male, Male/Fem or even Fem/Fem.
Anyway, I still dont like bouncers on doors. Nothing wrong with having security staff discreetly watching the crowds, but if they expect me to pay 10 GBP to enter a night club in asia, I dont expect any prejudices from a $2 HK Hardman!
Peace:D
Sid
[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]
Anyway, I still dont like bouncers on doors. Nothing wrong with having security staff discreetly watching the crowds, but if they expect me to pay 10 GBP to enter a night club in asia, I dont expect any prejudices from a $2 HK Hardman!
Peace:D
Sid[/QUOTE]
Bouncers also serve another function. Ever notice there aren't many Mainland Chinese girls in Neptune/Fenwicks? Suppossedly the local police have some sort of agreement to keep them out. They don't mind non-chinese girls.
Also when its busy they keep the fuglies out also.
It would be too tough to let anyone into Neptunes/Fenwicks and just wait for something to happen and then have the bouncers deal with it. The bouncers are at the door to limit potential problems on the male front and to satisfy local triad/police understandings on the women front.
The bouncers do a good job of keeping things under control and most of them are pretty good guys. I feel sorry for them when the Navy is in town, they really earn their money then.
As for cover it should not be a problem just walk right in past the bouncers. If you are a western guy you should have no problem unless you have some obvious issue like you are absolutely hammered or you did something really stupid in the bar before.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Bouncers also serve another function. Ever notice there aren't many Mainland Chinese girls in Neptune/Fenwicks? Suppossedly the local police have some sort of agreement to keep them out. They don't mind non-chinese girls.
Also when its busy they keep the fuglies out also.
It would be too tough to let anyone into Neptunes/Fenwicks and just wait for something to happen and then have the bouncers deal with it. The bouncers are at the door to limit potential problems on the male front and to satisfy local triad/police understandings on the women front.[/QUOTE]
Came back from Taipei and stayed one night in HK. Due the booking situation in our regulat hotels my company booked a room in the Fourseasons for me. Nice hotel, very US style. I followed the hints of ISG and visited the lounge and blue bar, but didn't find anything interesting.
So I went at 6:00 pm to the IFC mall, looked around, went to the cinema cafe, Pacific cafe and Mcdonalds, but also no luck. So I headed straight forward to Fenwicks. It was my first time at Fenwicks. It was full of girls and guys. Like some of you said before: It was like being in a candy store. There were some 9er, and a lot of 7er and 8ers. Shortly after entering the place some girls smiled to me, but I didn't react immediately. I had a beer, and wad happy to take a look to the scene. There were some girls I was interested in. Therefore I looked forward to a hot filipina, but she wasn't interested in me because she was already in business with another guy. But her girlfriend approached me and we chatted a little bit. Her name was Sharon, 20yo. She asked me if we can have dinner together. And I told her, yes and also a little bit more. We agreed finally about 700 HKD + taxi. So we went for a very nice dinner in a restaurant in the IFC mall. At 10:00 pm we moved to my hotel room.
We showered together and she wanted to test the tube. Was quite funny to see Sharon playing around with the bubbles. She was a 8, slim, well trained. After the bathroom session we went to bed. CBJ and fucking in several positions. After a rest she wanted to go, but we negotiated a second session for add. 300 HKD. This time I gave her a full body massage, than some 69 and a nice BBBJ. Finally some fucking again. She was always quite, sometimes breathing heavely. No fake moaning. No condoms with her, I needed my own stuff. Loved to stay with her. She left at 7:00 am in the morning. Total: 1000 HKG + 100 HKD taxi + dinner.
Would do it again.
Whomer
[QUOTE=Whomer]
So I went at 6:00 pm to the IFC mall, looked around, went to the cinema cafe, Pacific cafe and Mcdonalds, but also no luck. So I headed straight forward to Fenwicks. It was my first time at Fenwicks. It was full of girls and guys. Like some of you said before: It was like being in a candy store. There were some 9er, and a lot of 7er and 8ers. Whomer[/QUOTE]
Which idiot told you to go check out IFC Mall? If you ranked girls at Fenwicks at 6pm as 9s, you should have stayed until 11:30. You would have seen some 15teens !!
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Which idiot told you to go check out IFC Mall? If you ranked girls at Fenwicks at 6pm as 9s, you should have stayed until 11:30. You would have seen some 15teens !![/QUOTE]Hahaha finally someone fell into Flushpumps trap. He should have read the comments on those nonsense posts.
Can anyone tell me if it is possible to get girls into the club floors here.
I am coming to HK on 5th December for a couple of weeks and have been booked into the Nathan Hotel in Nathan Road. I know most of the HK hotels are GF - I have stayed in many over the years - but does anyone know about the Nathan Hotel? At least it is handy for a lot of action!
Thanks in advance
[QUOTE=Gaxor]Can anyone tell me if it is possible to get girls into the club floors here.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
completely girlfriendly for any floor.
But you have to be with her as they switch the elevators to room card acess after 10 or 12.
Rgds,
Mike
Islington, I'd recommend the Warney hotel right in the heart of the Wanchai action. Smallish but clean rooms literally 50m from Fenwicks. Look on their website. I think I beat them down to around HK$500 last time I stayed there, it all depends on what conventions etc are on in town.
Can somebody supply me with the website address for the 141 and 161 websites.
I did a search, and was wondering if anyone could share where I can go in Hong Kong to get tested for STD's? I am not a HK citizen nor do I have a HK ID. How much will it cost me? Hopefully you guys can all chime in since we should all get tested regularly. Let's keep it safe out there bros!
[QUOTE=Member #2962]Can somebody supply me with the website address for the 141 and 161 websites.[/QUOTE]Go to [url]www.google.com.hk[/url] and enter
141
It should be the first in the list.
Since you are not an HK citizen you can't use the public health facilities. There are a fair number of hospitals that cater to wealthier people in HK and medical tourists.
I recommend the Sanatorium Hospital in Happy Valley. Just go to their outpatient clinic. I have been tested there a few times. Forget what the charge is as I have always done it in conjunction with some other medical thing. Maybe HK$500 or so. The Madilta or other private hospitals would be good too. There are also some government family planning clincis that are always advertising tests but I do not know whether you need to be a resident or not.
[QUOTE=Tufei Paco]I did a search, and was wondering if anyone could share where I can go in Hong Kong to get tested for STD's? I am not a HK citizen nor do I have a HK ID. How much will it cost me? Hopefully you guys can all chime in since we should all get tested regularly. Let's keep it safe out there bros![/QUOTE]
Rick Hunter is right - Sanatorium is the BEST and most EXPENSIVE facility in HK. Adventist Hospital is another option, near US Embassy on HK Island.
I'm not 100% sure that government hospital 'won't 'accept you if you're not HK ID holder....Ruttonjee in Wanchai is excellent place, and Queen Mary's is another one.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Rick Hunter is right - Sanatorium is the BEST and most EXPENSIVE facility in HK. Adventist Hospital is another option, near US Embassy on HK Island.
I'm not 100% sure that government hospital 'won't 'accept you if you're not HK ID holder....Ruttonjee in Wanchai is excellent place, and Queen Mary's is another one.[/QUOTE]
The government hospitals will certainly accept you without an HKID card, but they will charge similar rates to the private hospitals to treat you, and if you want non-emergency consultations, you'll be put on the end of a long waiting list.
A long time ago I went to the emergency room of a government hospital for food poisoning. They took good care of me. I don't remember if I had to pay. Bring your passport.
Of course, for non-emergency services like STD testing, it may be different.
[QUOTE=Idler31]The government hospitals will certainly accept you without an HKID card, but they will charge similar rates to the private hospitals to treat you, and if you want non-emergency consultations, you'll be put on the end of a long waiting list.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the heads up.
Slightly off topic but Ruttonjee is a solid govt hp. - i mention this only because it's a stone's throw from the wanchai bars, just in case anyone has emergency!
Recently, my 24 yr son checked into their emergency room with chest pains at 4 am, remained for 2 days of checkup/tests, etc. - fortunately he also holds dual citizenship and has HK ID: total cost HK$500 - yes, not a typo.
I then had him go to Sanatorium to see head of cardiology for second opinion. Doc said Ruttonjee did a good job, and he did additional CAT scan, et. etc. on out patient basis: US$1600! Fortunately my son has insurance
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Which idiot told you to go check out IFC Mall? If you ranked girls at Fenwicks at 6pm as 9s, you should have stayed until 11:30. You would have seen some 15teens![/QUOTE]Dude,
If he thinks he saw 8s and 9s then he saw 8s and 9s. Why are you always raining on someone's parade? I've been following your BS on the Thailand board, and I find you to be someone who just talks enormous amount of shit without contributing an ounce of useful information. Just shut the fuck up and let people have fun. Who the fuck are you to judge who is hot or not?
[QUOTE=Member #2962]Can somebody supply me with the website address for the 141 and 161 websites.[/QUOTE]
As far as I know, there are only two working sites now which are 161s_x.com
and s_x141.com. Several months ago, there were lots of sites, but the HK government changed all of that. If someone else knows of any other sites that are working, please provide the info, thanks.
Unfortunately the bouncers at both Fenwick and Neptune are pretty racist.
I've been to Fenwick with some non ethnic friends and never had to pay. However if I rock up on my own, without fail I'm asked for HK$300 (and two free drinks). There has even been occasion when a few of the girls I know who work at Fenwick tried to get me in, but with no luck.
As for Neptune, again same thing, with non ethnic friends no cover charge, but on my own HK$500 without fail.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Sid,
I don't frequent the bars, but you are correct, there is no need to pay cover charges or whatever. HK is not Japan where everything is more difficult and expensive and restricted for the gaijin. However, Hong Kongers will rip you off if they think they have half a chance to do it. Don't give in--there are too many choices here to be taken advantage of. Tell them to go fuck themselves.[/QUOTE]
Hey Guys. I would like to share a funny and kind of scary experience I recently had on one of my lunchtime adventures. I normally do my mongering during my lunch hour; the only time I really have to my self. After the deed was done the 141 lady took me into her bathroom to rinse off. Her bathroom is really very small; even by Hong Kong standards. We both had to squeeze in tight, so she could shut the door. After a quick shower. She goes to open the door and the knob pulls out a bit. Then turns uselessly in either direction. She immediately starts to mutter "oh no. Oh no. Oh no. . . ".
We are both completely naked, dripping wet. And now trapped in her bathroom. There is not even a towel inside; just a very tiny piece of rag. Mind you there is no window in the bathroom and her front door is metal and bolted from the end side. You can imagine what must have been going through my mind as to how this could end. How long would we be caught in here? It’s my lunch hour and I have a meeting at work in less than an hour. I am married and trapped in a toilet.completely naked and wet. With a very nude Chinese women.
Needles to say the lady is frantic as well. For what ever reason she has a kitchen knife in her bathroom, and she spends about 5 minutes disparately trying to jimmy the door open with the knife. The middle part of the door is glass, and all the while I am thinking I can bust the glass with the toilet cover if need be. But honestly I was not looking forward to this. The glass is pretty large – and the bathroom is very very small and we are both totally nude and have not even a towel to protect oursleves. Broken glass and naked flesh. I can see this all ending with blood on the floor. The paramedics. Maybe even the press. How would I ever explain all this to my wife and my boss.
Fortunately there were wooden slats at the very bottom of the door to let the air in and steam out. Only about 1 foot square. Hardly big enough to crawl through. But we begin to focus on this as our best hope for escape. The door is old and it is relatively easy to pull the wooden slates out one by one. After all the slates are out, the lady try’s to crawl out by putting one of her legs though the hole. Honestly she is fairly attractive, but a bit on the meaty side. Not sure what she was thinking, but I begin to hope maybe she was some sort of contortionist. Alas no; the hole is too small and she is too big. We are still stuck in her tiny toilet! All the while she rarely every ceases her chant of "Oh No. Oh No. Oh No. . . "!
Frankly I can kind of see the humor in the situation all a long. But I am still worried. She tries to put just her arm through the door and open the door from the outside. But her arm will not reach the outside knob. I then lie down naked on her wet and filthy bathroom floor. My ass slides along the wet tiles and my head nearly crashes into the floor. I stick my head through the door along with one arm. I can just barley reach the knob with my finger tips. My hands are wet and slippery. But eventually the outside knob turns and we are both free at last.
All in all we were probably trapped in her toilet for about 10 minutes. Certainly one of the most memerorable 10 minutes of my mongering career. One I will never forget. I shudder to think in what other very embarrassing and awkward ways this might have all ended.
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[QUOTE=Tallman2]I had just return from Trip to China, I had a nights stay going and coming from the states.
Arrive Tuesday 9/25 in the morning, went to hotel and got cleaned up, spent the better part of day doing tourist stuff. Onway back to Hotel stop by Sticky Fingers for a beer. Ran into some guys from US, suggested I come back later. Came back around 8 PM, bar was packed with lots of guys and about 15 girls. Most were fairly good looking 5-8's. Unfortunately I was seated at the bar next to the most obnoxious person I had ever met. He insulted everyone and he would not leave. So there was no place to move to so I left.
On way back to Regal Kowloon in the courtyard between it and Grand Staford I was approached by Mamasan who had 5 girls in tow.
I was tired and gave in with out bargaining 800HKD, (sorry I am newbie to this board) and I should know to haggle her down on price but was just to tired. Girl was very nice and I had typical treatment, showwer, massage and almost GFE experience.
Once I got to China, I told my host about this, he warned me not to do this because in HK some girls might call police and claim you attacked them. Is this true? I have read this board and not seen any warnings about this.
On my way back from China, I had overnite in HK again, this time however I did not get back to hotel until 12:30 1:00 AM in morning. I was not going out. However next to evelator in regal kowlloon is coffee shop. As I walk to elevator from front desk, I was met by a nice smile from Susan. I could not resist. Another 800HKD and repeat of Tuesday nights activities
As I mentioned I am newbie and only get to HK once or twice a year. This board is valuable resource, thanks to all the frequent contributors.[/QUOTE]I also touched up Susan and got her for an all nighter at 11pm for 1400. Was not bad in the sack but she was not much into the BBBJ and required some pushing on that.
her English was understandable and through being nice to her I nailed her twice before sleep and first thing in the morning again. Problem was when I woudl come and go to my room I had to use the elevator over by reception as she was sitting looking by the main elevators and pestered me for another night.... 6 outta 10 for a retry and she woudl have got up to a 9 were it not for the shit on the BJ and the real fake moaning.
Tried a couple of 141's for the first time over the past couple of weeks.
Both of them are near where I live (within about 5 mins walking distance), however my area to not known in general for the sex trade (as opposed to say Wan Chai or Mongkok).
First 141. Gave her call to see if she was in. Turned up about 10 mins later. It was a walk up residential building. Outside the door was a sign for 141 and 161 and the fact that she was available.
Lady was a bit old, not the best face, ok body, decent rack (but fake). Big room (probably as big as my flat here). She told me how much the charge was. She then told me to strip and we went to the bathroom area for a shower (involving going through the kitchen). She showered me and then cleaned herself up.
Then to her bed (queen size). She put rubber on and gave me about 2 mins of head. Then she jumped on me. I pumped her for about 15 - 20 mins in a few different positions. It was frankly boring and the girl was very mechanic. I was pretty much disappointed. Total cost HK$500. Oh, by the way she spoke reasonably decent english.
Went to another one tonight. This was much better.
Again walk up flat. However this time there was a choice of three. Again residential building. Get up and the apartment is pretty much split in three. This time lots of ads for 161. Anyway ring a bell. Girl answers. Speaks lots of cantonese to me, have no idea what she goes on about. Then realise there is another girl in her toilet. Girl in toilet leaves.
My girl, she doesn't look too bad. Decent face, ok body, not petite, but not huge. Anyway she proceeds to strip with me and play around with my body and is generally a good laugh. Oh should mention, the room is VERY small. Enough room for a single bed. Anyway, we proceed to shower. She rubs me up and down, and again have a general laugh playing around with her body. She gives me head in the shower as well.
We proceed back to the room. I lie down and she's licking and kissing me up and down and gives me some more head. She then puts the rubber on (using her mouth. I really like that!!)
We screw for about 40 minutes in several different positions (quite hard considering the size of hte bed). I finish off by shooting in her mouth. We then shower up and I pay. This time only HK$380.
Second experience was SO SO much better, and enjoyed it quite a bit. The girl was fun and enthusiastic for sure!!
[QUOTE=The World]Unfortunately the bouncers at both Fenwick and Neptune are pretty racist.
.[/QUOTE]
Do you really believe it is the bouncers being racists?
The racists are the owners who are Chinese, the bouncers are just implementing policy.
guys,
i'm sorry for the late report. i'm a senior member on the usa board. i'm slowing getting out around the world. went to hkg because i have a counsin that lives there because of an american company transplanted him their on an executive assignment. i met a girl on the internet. we hooked up and it was awesome! i would encourage all of you if you don't live in hkg try to hook up with a local resident i.e. craigs list. did sometime in wan chai. it was awesome. i found if you stand at the edge of the dance floor and bop your head. girls will ask you to dance like crazy. i agree with some other guys many flipino bars avoid them they will drag you in as you walk by and charge you much money water and pop. i eventually left and found myself in neptune. i got free bbj and also everything on the menu. i hooked up with a thai girls and a flipino girl that i met on the dance floor in neptunes. again, go to the dance floor and if a girl stares at you grab her before she grabs someone else. i also started talking to a japanese girl but it was 330am on a monday and i was tired so i settle for the thai girl. i wanted her friends but oh well. i no doubt will return to hkg. i'm going to post my trip in macau. i had to p4p but it was worth it. i also noticed many beautiful women in ladies market and temple street. beware, many cab drivers don't speak english or act like that can't speak english so a local guide helps or knowing the cantonese name in writing or speech helps! have fun!
[quote=johnjohnjr2000]guys,
i'm sorry for the late report. i'm a senior member on the usa board. i'm slowing getting out around the world. went to hkg because i have a counsin that lives there because of an american company transplanted him their on an executive assignment. i met a girl on the internet. we hooked up and it was awesome! i would encourage all of you if you don't live in hkg try to hook up with a local resident i.e. craigs list. did sometime in wan chai. it was awesome. i found if you stand at the edge of the dance floor and bop your head. girls will ask you to dance like crazy. i agree with some other guys many flipino bars avoid them they will drag you in as you walk by and charge you much money water and pop. i eventually left and found myself in neptune. i got free bbj and also everything on the menu. i hooked up with a thai girls and a flipino girl that i met on the dance floor in neptunes. again, go to the dance floor and if a girl stares at you grab her before she grabs someone else. i also started talking to a japanese girl but it was 330am on a monday and i was tired so i settle for the thai girl. i wanted her friends but oh well. i no doubt will return to hkg. i'm going to post my trip in macau. i had to p4p but it was worth it. i also noticed many beautiful women in ladies market and temple street. beware, many cab drivers don't speak english or act like that can't speak english so a local guide helps or knowing the cantonese name in writing or speech helps! have fun![/quote]eh, mr senior member, japanese girl in neptunes? never been personally but reasonably familiar with the wan chai scene. she may have told you she was japanese, but i highly doubt it. in any case, i would suspect that any japanese reader would be insulted that you "settled" for the thai girl (i'm not japanese btw)
free bbj? i suppose this is what they call a dine and dash? except in this case, you dashed after the girl dined?
why would the cab drivers speak english? i'm guessing most don't have a ton of education and the only english they've learned is what they've picked up from their fares. maybe you could learn a little bit of cantonese or mandarin? i'm sure that you are more highly educated than a cabbie.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Do you really believe it is the bouncers being racists?
The racists are the owners who are Chinese, the bouncers are just implementing policy.[/QUOTE]
At the moment I doubt you on that, however you may be right (sorry, don't want to come of as an argument).
You, for sure may be right, especially as I've only been around in HK for just under a year. However I do believe its the bouncers, but more than happy to be proven wrong.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Do you really believe it is the bouncers being racists?
The racists are the owners who are Chinese, the bouncers are just implementing policy.[/QUOTE]Maybe the solution would be for the Chinese owners (are they really? No idea whatsoever) to tell their bouncers direct non-caucasion types to the 141s just around the corner. Providing a little map would be a nice extra touch. I suppose that the owners (whether white or Chinese) have no connection to the 141 apartment owners, so nothing to gain.
141s are much better value IMHO, which is why I avoid Wan Chai like the plague. Only go there for cheap (relative to LKD and SOHO) drinks and food. Been to Fenwicks twice, first time was on my own and was charged 100HKD which included one (or was it two) drinks. Second time I was with a white dude and wasn't charged admission. Wanted to take a look-sie at Neptunes II (on my own) and the bouncer asked for 500HKD admission. F*ck that. For the price of admission, I can pay the 141 girl, which, from what I've seen thus far beats Wan Chai by a mile. Of course, I haven't seen the full display of options available in the Wan Chai market, from the little that I have seen, I think that I'm not missing anything.
[QUOTE=The World]At the moment I doubt you on that, however you may be right (sorry, don't want to come of as an argument).
You, for sure may be right, especially as I've only been around in HK for just under a year. However I do believe its the bouncers, but more than happy to be proven wrong.[/QUOTE]
Believe me I am right. And lets just say it is the group of Chinese you don't want to be messing with. May I ask what nationality you are? Perhaps I can tell you why there is a policy for your group.
[QUOTE=Johnjohnjr2000]Guys,
I eventually left and found myself in Neptune. I got free BBJ and also everything on the menu. I hooked up with a thai girls and a flipino girl that I met on the dance floor in Neptunes. Again, go to the dance floor and if a girl stares at you grab her before she grabs someone else. I also started talking to a Japanese girl but it was 330AM on a monday and I was tired so I settle for the Thai girl. I wanted her friends but oh well. ![/QUOTE]
Being your first time in HK, there are some inaccuracies. There are never ever any japanese girls in Neptunes. Also, the Thai girls there are not there for 'dancing'. They are on short term visa's and Neptunes is their workplace.
Did you offer or discuss money or did you just assume it was free? I have friends who are ex male models who go to Tunes and believe me, no Thai girl in Neptunes is going to give it up for free on the first time meeting you.
I have heard this story many times from Thai girls on 'tourists' not paying them because they told them money wasn't discussed at the beginning.
Thought I would ad my 2 cents worth to recent posts.
As a regular visitor to HK for the past 15 years I have found it one of the better places to indulge in our hobby. I usually stay at the Intercontinental KW while conducting business. The Doorman etc do give me a look on the odd occasion I have returned with a bedmate I move to the horny Wharney in Wanchai for the serious mongering and more likely to get looked at by front of house workers if I DON, T come back with a bed mate. Taxi drivers are more than ok for what I need if you plan a little. Ie Business card from hotel. I get hotel staff to write down in Chinese any areas I am likely to visit. Have tried streetwalkers, bargirls, saunas, yellow signs, 141, 161 and private providers. All are good and bad on the day. It is my belief that part of the fun of our hobby is finding out how good/bad/indifferent the providers may be. Just like eating out, looks good on the menu but may not satisfy. For me HK is one of the safer cities in Asia to move around in day or night taking the usual pecautions. I don't live in HK, am nearly he wrong side of 60, swm. Don't speak a word of any other language but none of this has ever to my knowledge stoped me from having a hell of a lot of fun. Yes I am a newbie to this forum but not to the hobby.
[QUOTE=The World]At the moment I doubt you on that, however you may be right (sorry, don't want to come of as an argument).
You, for sure may be right, especially as I've only been around in HK for just under a year. However I do believe its the bouncers, but more than happy to be proven wrong.[/QUOTE]
I am surprised that anyone would think that it is the bouncers that set the door policy. Like most workers further down the totem pool in an organization they simply listen to their bosses. Like most business owners in Hong Kong those that operate the bars in Wan Chai are rather pragmatic. They have valid business reasons for behaving as they do. Various types of people are usually excluded because they either tend not to spend money or they tend to harass the girls or the girls tend not to like that type of person. Obviously there are many good people that are unfairly impacted by these rules but that’s life.
Occasionally businesses will try something new. Over the last few months New Makahti has been encouraging Chinese guys to attend. While the place was never overly popular with freelancers and generally only had girls brought in by agents associated with the bar this has caused pretty much all the free lancers to stop going there. (Domestic Helpers on the weekend are another story but I have heard some of them start to complain and say they will just stick to other bars). Will this strategy work for New Makahti – I don’t know? A lot of the girls working in Wan Chai tend to have an aversion to Chinese men however being the one bar very friendly to Chinese patrons it may turn into a place serving what is a niche market in Wan Chai.
As for who owns the bars in Wan Chai it is a fairly mixed bag. The owners represent a more diverse collection of people than one would initially think. I will not bother highlighting the owners of the bars the girls tend to go to as some of the owners prefer to keep a low profile (and others not so much) but the information is readily available for those who want to take the time to find out. Since it has not been listed here for a while the bars girls tend to hang out in are:
Discos – Fenwicks, Neptune’s II, Laguna, New Makhati, Boracay, Dreams, Galaxy
Bars – Joe Banana’s, Dusk Till Dawn, Amazonia, The Bridge, Old China Hand (certain bars only have girls there during certain time periods)
While on the subject of Wan Chai there is one other area that I want to address that has caused number of posts over the past few months and that is price. Yes Wan Chai is an expensive place to pick up girls in Asia. Right after the high class night clubs it would be the next most expensive place in Hong Kong SAR. There are a variety of reasons for the relatively high price but it basically boils down to the service is in English, its location (next to the Central Business District), the girls are imported and have costs to cover and tourists/visiting businessmen tend to be more liberal with their cash.
I hate it when I see posts about why pay a girl $800-$1,000 when plane tickets to her country are cheap and she would only get a fraction of that. If I am coming home on a Tuesday night and want some action I do not have time to fly off to Thailand or Manila. Not to mention I like have the choice and variety available in Hong Kong – I expect to pay more for imports. While there are many nice Chinese girls to have fun with here variety is the spice of life.
Also it bugs me when people complain that it is more expensive than options on Kowloon side. Sometimes I want the convenience of staying on the island. (Much like how I pay more to live on Hong Kong Island as opposed to what I would pay to live in Tin Shui Wai). I may also want service in relatively good English. I am not saying do not go to places in Kowloon. There are some great places in Kowloon, some with good service in English. I will actually be off to one tonight to meet a local Hong Kong girl who I have regularly visited for a couple years now.
Please just stop complaining about the prices in Wan Chai. Recognize what it is and where it is in the market. If you go to a restaurant in the Peninsula for dinner you expect to pay more than you would at a local road side restaurant. You can argue which place has better tasting food but you already know the price difference a head of time so no point complaining.
This is by no means an endorsement that you should pay $1,500 for a short time in Wan Chai where many ladies start their opening offer as $800 is much closer to market, plus or minus a couple hundred depending on the girl.
Agree with Rick H. and HK Dog it is the management that set the door policy and not the bouncers.
What is not clear to me is why aren't Chinese girls welcome at these places anymore?
It used to be 3-4 years ago there were quite a number of Chinese girls offering their services. Neptunes would be one of the more popular places to find Chinese WG. There was both HKID Holders (usually not born in HK) and PRC girls with the ability to get visa's. Even one I met had US passport after marrying but then lived by herself in Beijing.
I only now visit HK occasionally so don't see the scene change over time like when I lived there but have not seen many Chinese girls over the past few years.
What I don't understand is why. HK does not seem to be exclusive in this regard like Japan or Korea. Even in China I have been refused service, but in HK I have never felt unwelcome at 141, sauna or SW. Either by the girl or pimp.
So why do bars in Wan Chai discourage Chinese girls? Does anyone know? I don't believe it is a demand thing. The Chinese girls were able to command higher prices than Thai or Filipino despite the abundant 141 alternatives.
BJK
Seems I've caused a few issues, apologies, didn't mean it like that.
Was out in Wan Chai last night at about 11ish. Tried Fenwicks, HK$300 one free drink. I thought forget it. Went over to Neptune II and shock horror, didn't get charged. However I did walk in behind two gweillo.
Was very busy in Neptune. Seemed to be lots of filipino's as opposed to thais.
Ended up speaking to one Filipino girl. Bought her a couple of drinks. Just after she got her second drink she got up to say she was going to the toilet. I said fair enough. Well she didn't come back after 5 - 10 mins, so I thought she wasn't interested and had gone off to chat to some other guy.
I walked around the place and wasn't really feeling it. On my way out saw the girl chatting to some other guy.
Oh, by the way I'm british, but am of indian descent.
[QUOTE=The World]Seems I've caused a few issues, apologies, didn't mean it like that.
Was out in Wan Chai last night at about 11ish. Tried Fenwicks, HK$300 one free drink. I thought forget it. Went over to Neptune II and shock horror, didn't get charged. However I did walk in behind two gweillo.
Was very busy in Neptune. Seemed to be lots of filipino's as opposed to thais.
Ended up speaking to one Filipino girl. Bought her a couple of drinks. Just after she got her second drink she got up to say she was going to the toilet. I said fair enough. Well she didn't come back after 5 - 10 mins, so I thought she wasn't interested and had gone off to chat to some other guy.
I walked around the place and wasn't really feeling it. On my way out saw the girl chatting to some other guy.
Oh, by the way I'm british, but am of indian descent.[/QUOTE]Well, we could always put a positive spin on the racism/business pragmatism/acumen (regardless of whether it's the bouncer, owner, whoever). Way I see it, somebody is preventing me from inadvertently wasting 1000HKD or so for a Thai/Flipper/other. I respect Rick H's opinion and there'll be times when I feel like paying a little more for a "perceived" higher quality provider whether it be a sauna girl or hotel reservation 141 girl. Where I disagree is that a Thai/Filipina/other is a higher quality provider, so it's not skin off my nose, figure the bouncer's are doing me a favor by "restricting my entrance" so to speak. Wouldn't want to accidentally get drunk and take one of them home for 1000HKD.
The hotel reservation girls who advertise "Tsim Sha Tsui", are normally located in Jordan in one of two hotels named after an American city in Southern California. Was cruising the s_x141 website started wondering where the Causeway Bay hotel reservation girls work at. I'm guessing that the actual hotel is in North Point. I suppose that I could just call up and make an appointment but if I'm gonna stay on the Island side, it's just too easy to simply saunter on down to Hop Yee or Fuji.
[QUOTE=The World]Oh, by the way I'm british, but am of indian descent.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately the local Indian guys in HK have a very bad reputation at the Wan Chai places. They come in large groups, don't buy drinks and harass the girls who complain to the management. That is why the owners try to keep them out. So you are just being thrown into that group.
[QUOTE=BJK]What is not clear to me is why aren't Chinese girls welcome at these places anymore?
BJK[/QUOTE]
From what I heard it has to do with the police and public image. They don't care if foreigners (westeners) are screwing around with foreigners (thais and flippers) since the locals expect that and don't care. The police don't want the local press to investigate drunk gweilos bonking their own for money. So there is an understanding between owner and police.
There may even be a little element of local triads attempting to get a cut of chinese working girls pay and causing problems. I used to see local pimps in Fenwicks who would harrass girls when he saw them leave a cust and come back since he wanted his 'protection' cut even though the girl had no relation to him.
Will be in BKK 12/8-12/12; Hong Kong 12/12-12/14; Shenzhen 12/14-12/16; and Taiwan 12/17-12/19.
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Just got back from a pleasant hour at 37D. Usual stuff, nothing new, no need to go into detail. The purpose of this report is just to recommend Keh Keh, who took care of me this evening. She's a local HK girl, 25, lovely firm body and flat tummy, nice tits, just ... pretty! Service was fantastic - she loved DATY (came; I had a finger in and I felt it), and provided enthusiastic FS in several positions. At one point while I was pounding her tight and well-lubricated (but extremely hairy) snatch, she called me Superman. You know it's not true; I know it's not true; but I'm always prepared to pay for that kind of thing.
Downers: No DFK, no assplay of any kind, not even a finger up there.
Totally recommended. If you're in 37D, do ask for her.
I usually post in the Taiwan and China section but this experience is just too outstanding. Was in Hong Kong for the day getting my rush visa to go to China and as always went over the Langham Place in Monkok for some MP action.
Saw some police patrolling the area which is rather odd since it was only 10 in the morning, but there were only two, so when they passed by I slipped into a place where I have been before and liked. While not being overly clean (none of these places are) they have mirrors EVERYWHERE, on the wall next to the bed, as the head of the bed and on the ceiling. That alone makes me want to go there.
Was shown a room and I asked for a "young girl". 2 minutes pass and the guy shows up with a STUNNER. I mean 10 all around, body,face, the works. She was young, only 19 and was from Fujian. But my god, she looked 16 and her skin felt like it was 14. Although she was beautiful, God didnt give her much in the smarts department. Seems it was only her 2nd day in HK on a 7 day pass and she had overslept on the first day. She gave me a mediocore shower, only washing the important bits and nothing else. And she gave me the most peculiar look while washing me...
Anyways we finish up and I am lying on the bed just shocked at how beautiful she is. She starts giving me a BBBJ which was ok but this gave me a chance to caress her B cup breasts. Damn, round as mellons and just as firm. No saline, no enhancment, just young tender breasts, just like Nature intended. Well she finishes up, puts on the shower cap and mounts me. Took almost all my self control not to shoot right then, she had the more slender waist and firmest ass I have felt for months. Now she didnt know how to move all that well but damn did she look good in the ceiling mirror. After a little while I am getting a little disappointed with her lack of initiative in cowgirl when she leans down and kisses me and says "what will happen if I fall in love with you?" . So I look her dead in the eyes and say "then fall in love with me then" and we keep on banging away.
We flip over to do missionary and god is she wet. I love 19 year olds, pretty as a picture and sensitive as hell. Doesnt take much to make them wet and tight. I raise her legs onto my shoulders and drill her deep. This seem to cause her to go over the edge. She literally pulls my head down and continues to kiss me, but this time she starts to use her toungue. Couldnt take it much longer, laying on top of this angel with both hands on her breasts and banging away. So I tell her to open her eyes and look at me, and made her watch me as I finished. Find nothing is hotter then having them look at you while you are pumping her while you come. When we are done, she looks at me and says " I really have fallen in love with you". Wonder why it is? The last 19 year old I screwed in Beijing told me she loved me too after we fucked and I gave her and orgasm. Everyone should be this easy...
Clean up and ask if is she is around all day and she says she will be on duty in the afternoon. So I go run my errands, meet friends for lunch and return to the same place at about 3.45. But when I ask for the girl, the guy says she is off work and would I like someone like her. While I think to myself "fat chance", I am still horny as hell and say ok. He shows me to the room and 5 min later comes in with another stunner. This one is an HK girl.
This girl doesnt talk much, all business. Says a polite hello and starts to strip. I do find out that she is 21 and she has a bit more makeup on. Angelic face. I would give her a 10 for face and 9 for body. She has smaller breasts, say a large A but boy they are perky! Long legs and just a wisp of hair down there.
She starts giving me a shower and suddenly looks all sheepish. She kneels down in the shower and starts to give me a BBBJ. Cuping some hot water she give me a fire-only blow job. A few times like this and we both dry off. I lie down on the bed and admire myself in the ceiling mirror. She soon starts with kissing my nipples and rubbing me all over. She doesnt allow me to touch her breasts much but her skin feels older, like a 22 or 24 year olds so I am not as excited as with the girl in the morning. When she gets to my cock she lifts up my legs and starts a rimming that would put a gay porn actor to shame. Spend a good 10 minutes alternating btwn BBBJ and rimming. Both with passion and again seeing that angelic face with her lips wrapped around my cock almost made me burst. Almost. But thanks to the ceiling mirror I got a first row seat to seeing her eat my asshole out. Damn I love this place!
I think she was a little disappointed that I didnt shoot my load with all the oral attention, so she slips on the condom and gets on top of me. Now she knows how to ride the pony! About 5 minutes of her grinding me with her tight pussy was not enough, we change to mish and again I go at her. Now she was not as responsive as the earlier girl but her quiet acceptance of me fucking her was still a turn on. I came hard for the second time today. Cleaned up, she said goodbye and I stumbled out to the airport happy with both my experiences. While neither was a 100, both were great and I was thinking if both were combined into one (a 19 year old hottie that sucked cock and ate ass like a porn star), I could die a happy man. But maybe I am asking for too much.
Total damage was 350 for each pop so 700 altogether. The MP does not have cards but is one the street heading south from the corner of Langham Place. Once you pass the KFC its one more street down. An opening with a large sign that says "free preview" and you know you are there. Ask for the "young girl" from Wen Qi or the HK girl. Both are well worth the money and better than any Fillipinas you will find on Sundays. Good luck all of you!
Ragnarok42,
Excellent report. I hope that place is still there next time I'm in Hong Kong.
Okay, This International Forum seems very brutal to the USA form. Here are the answers. I'm just sharing my experience. I'm an African American male from the USA. I stayed in Taikoo Shing at my cousin's flat who is an executive with an American company. The two girls stayed with me for free. Yes free. The Thai girl that goes by Kea stayed with me overnight. The only thing that I paid for was food and taxi cab. I do have pictures of the Thai girl that I can post. She is back in Thai working at a hotel at front desk in the lobby. She has friends in HKG. English was bad with both. In fact, her friends did some translation for me. Maybe I had girls over me because their were few African American males in the club. I don't know. I don't care. I just know I will go back again if free is on the menu with the other girls there! I also visited other clubs in the area and did a lot of dancing. Yes, the girl was Japanese and was working for a company with some expats from England. I'm going to post my Macau experience in the other forum. I did had to P4P there.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Being your first time in HK, there are some inaccuracies. There are never ever any japanese girls in Neptunes. Also, the Thai girls there are not there for 'dancing'. They are on short term visa's and Neptunes is their workplace.
Did you offer or discuss money or did you just assume it was free? I have friends who are ex male models who go to Tunes and believe me, no Thai girl in Neptunes is going to give it up for free on the first time meeting you.
I have heard this story many times from Thai girls on 'tourists' not paying them because they told them money wasn't discussed at the beginning.[/QUOTE]
Well, HK Dog
I will take your advice since I'm new to HKG. I will be happy that I had this free experience. I will not expect to have a free experience again. I will assume, I was just lucky and lost in the translation. So, thanks for the advice and next time in HKG, I will be expecting to P4P other than one Canadian Chinese coporate person that I met there with HKG ID card that lives in Gold Coast.
Again thanks and I will not expect P4 Free in the future.
JJJ
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Being your first time in HK, there are some inaccuracies. There are never ever any japanese girls in Neptunes. Also, the Thai girls there are not there for 'dancing'. They are on short term visa's and Neptunes is their workplace.
Did you offer or discuss money or did you just assume it was free? I have friends who are ex male models who go to Tunes and believe me, no Thai girl in Neptunes is going to give it up for free on the first time meeting you.
I have heard this story many times from Thai girls on 'tourists' not paying them because they told them money wasn't discussed at the beginning.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Johnjohnjr2000]Well, HK Dog
I will take your advice since I'm new to HKG. I will be happy that I had this free experience. I will not expect to have a free experience again. I will assume, I was just lucky and lost in the translation. So, thanks for the advice and next time in HKG, I will be expecting to P4P other than one Canadian Chinese coporate person that I met there with HKG ID card that lives in Gold Coast.
Again thanks and I will not expect P4 Free in the future.
JJJ[/QUOTE]
Just for the record, I have had a periodic freebie from Neptunes, Fenwicks and particularly Laguna. They have been few and far between. I can only speculate that in each of the cases, the girls had quite a bit of fun and either forgot to ask for the money or simply decided the fun was worth it.
The last event was a very long time ago, however. Maybe they are not as frequent these days because I am older or the scene is more commercialized - which it is.
So, I can see how that may have happened to you, but it is rather rare. Enjoy it for what it was.
Gentlemen,
On Monday I visited Ada at 37D and had a good time. But I got more than I bargained for. Suspected something yesterday, and this morning I knew it already, and the doctor confirmed: gonorrhoea. Am doing the antibiotics and all will be fine but don't you guys suffer the same fate!
The only time my dick touched her pussy was during the shower when I rubbed against her and when my I smacked my head against her pussy before putting on the condom. And still it found its way to me!
I know it was her because she was my only working girl partner for 3 weeks. I only have one non-WG partner who I know is clean. And THANK GOD I haven't fucked her this week, the shit sure would have hit the fan!
This is why I always say have fun and STAY SAFE.
Johnny Rocket.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Gentlemen,
On Monday I visited Ada at 37D and had a good time. But I got more than I bargained for. Suspected something yesterday, and this morning I knew it already, and the doctor confirmed: gonorrhoea. Am doing the antibiotics and all will be fine but don't you guys suffer the same fate!
The only time my dick touched her pussy was during the shower when I rubbed against her and when my I smacked my head against her pussy before putting on the condom. And still it found its way to me!
I know it was her because she was my only working girl partner for 3 weeks. I only have one non-WG partner who I know is clean. And THANK GOD I haven't fucked her this week, the shit sure would have hit the fan!
This is why I always say have fun and STAY SAFE.
Johnny Rocket.[/QUOTE]
Bad deal man, my sympathies. It is also fair warning to us all.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Gentlemen,
On Monday I visited Ada at 37D and had a good time. But I got more than I bargained for. Suspected something yesterday, and this morning I knew it already, and the doctor confirmed: gonorrhoea. Am doing the antibiotics and all will be fine but don't you guys suffer the same fate!
The only time my dick touched her pussy was during the shower when I rubbed against her and when my I smacked my head against her pussy before putting on the condom. And still it found its way to me!
I know it was her because she was my only working girl partner for 3 weeks. I only have one non-WG partner who I know is clean. And THANK GOD I haven't fucked her this week, the shit sure would have hit the fan!
This is why I always say have fun and STAY SAFE.
Johnny Rocket. [/QUOTE]To Johnny,
Thanks for the head up many girls here have as many as 8 customer a day you can also get this by BBBJ if the girl have a cold sore in her mouth, I was there 2 week ago got angel she is a tall girl from chongqing very good skill, hope that you get better soon.
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Unfortunately the local Indian guys in HK have a very bad reputation at the Wan Chai places. They come in large groups, don't buy drinks and harass the girls who complain to the management. That is why the owners try to keep them out. So you are just being thrown into that group.[/QUOTE]I've got the same problem. Indian guy from YK, just relocated and working for a top tier IB.
Been here on biz trips befor and done the usual places with my Englich friends. No problem when I'm with them. Last trip, a couple of times, I tried to get in on my own (was with a thai girl) and got stopped at Neptune for a cover charge. First time, I laughed it off and said I'd been coming there for days etc and was not paying a cover charge. Bouncers relented and said it was April Fool. Yehm yeh, whatever. Next time, on of the bouncers would not budge. I said fine, your loss and walked away, back to Joe Banana's. Tried again 10 min later and no issue.
Last Sunday, tried Lagunas at around 8. 00PM. Got stopped. Walked away. I wasn't desperate. Went back 30 min later with my m8 and no problem. Went up to the bouncer later, showed him my wallet, told him I'm not cheap and please let me in next time. Shook hands. Hope he remembers next time
Thing is, I spend tons on drinks there, for the girls and myself and friends. So, it is their loss. And, when I start chatting to the girls, I get on really well.
Except for Friday night. Dunno what happened but wasn't really in the mood for p2p. Was on the dance floor in Neptune, just bopping away with m8's. Spotted a nice looking flipper. Called her over, bought her drink and back on the floor. She disappeared. Ah well, her loss, I easily pay 1500-2000 LT for a GFE.
Met up with a long term Thai girl afterward so not a complete loss.
Maybe, the strategy is to get the bouncers to know you. Be friendly with them, go there often etc.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Gentlemen,
On Monday I visited Ada at 37D and had a good time. But I got more than I bargained for. Suspected something yesterday, and this morning I knew it already, and the doctor confirmed: gonorrhoea. Am doing the antibiotics and all will be fine but don't you guys suffer the same fate!
The only time my dick touched her pussy was during the shower when I rubbed against her and when my I smacked my head against her pussy before putting on the condom. And still it found its way to me!
[/QUOTE]Very Scary Johnny as I am a regular at 37D, and particularly since you did not appear to have much direct contact. Can I ask if you went for the BBBJ? That is also a really easy way to catch something nasty.
I do not hear a lot about STD on this forum – any one else had trouble at 37D?
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Gentlemen,
On Monday I visited Ada at 37D and had a good time. But I got more than I bargained for. Suspected something yesterday, and this morning I knew it already, and the doctor confirmed: gonorrhoea. Am doing the antibiotics and all will be fine but don't you guys suffer the same fate!
The only time my dick touched her pussy was during the shower when I rubbed against her and when my I smacked my head against her pussy before putting on the condom. And still it found its way to me!
I know it was her because she was my only working girl partner for 3 weeks. I only have one non-WG partner who I know is clean. And THANK GOD I haven't fucked her this week, the shit sure would have hit the fan!
This is why I always say have fun and STAY SAFE.
Johnny Rocket.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to read about the problem you had.
I offer the following information as a tip to everyone. But, I do not want to sound like a army training video.
I have been doing pay-4-play for about 13 years in Mexico and Asia and I ALWAYS USE A CONDOM! Ok, when I was a newbie years ago on my first trip to Asia, a few times when I was with young girl I would let them give me a BBBJ. Now, I always use a condom--even for BJs.
My point is, it is not just 37D you have to be concerned about--but all encounters with girls who offer sex for money--use a condom. Let's face it, these girls lick guy's dicks and their ass, and fuck for a living, you can bet that most girls will have or had some form of STD.
The best condom I found that feels great when I use it is:
LifeStyles Sheer Pleasure Lubricated
This is a great product and you feel great using it, I get a lot more feeling with the girl when I use it. I also use it when girls give me BJs.
Note that guys can get STD from their regular girlfriends, thus STD is a risk of life. I find that condom use greatly reduces the risk.
Ok, enough with my "Public Service Announcement."
If anyone knows 37D, the right thing to do is to tell her, immediately. Anyone who has been with her should get checked, with or without symptoms. As for the rest of the mongers, always use a condom and have sex safely. I'm sure you all know how to have safe sex, yeah?
Gyaos.
For a few months, it seemed as all the managers (mammas) of the new Philippa girls in Wan Chai wanted to standardize the pricing at $1500 HKD for all night and $1000 HKD for ST. For the first time ever, I had girls unwilling to negotiate for a period of about four months over the summer. As a result, I tended to hit the Thai and Indo girls more often as well as the periodic Chinese girl.
It seems that revenue was down as one girl told me over the weekend and the Philippina girls are once again a bit more independent - outside of Fenwicks. Had one from Laguna this past weekend that was kind of a newbie and inexperienced but willing to please. She asked $1500. She read the look on my face and said I was a nice guy and $1000 would do. It was only 6 pm and this was for all night, so I did not even bother to negotiate more. 4 pops by morning made it a relative bargain.
The next night, Saturday, I fell asleep (Jet Lag), woke up at 2 am, could not sleep, headed to Wan Chai, dropped in at the Galaxy and headed out with a hottie for $500 HKD short term and got the best bbj I have had in a long time.
So, the Philippina mommas have realized that $1500 HKD for long time in the HK market is not sustainable.
[QUOTE=Johnjohnjr2000]. Yes free. The Thai girl that goes by Kea stayed with me overnight. The only thing that I paid for was food and taxi cab. . . .. She has friends in HKG. English was bad with both. In fact, her friends did some translation for me. Maybe I had girls over me because their were few African American males in the club. I don't know. I don't care. .[/QUOTE]
Absolute bullshit. If you couldn't communicate with the girl then how do you know if she was asking for money??
You don't understand the Asian culture and things such as loss of face etc etc. As I said before, I have heard this story many times about tourists not paying the girls.
What is the poor girl supposed to do? She feels it is her fault since the groundrules weren't established. Especially an inexperienced girl, she will bite the bullet and take the loss herself. I have seen them cry in recounting their 'tourist' stories to me.
How do I know it is true in your case?? It may sound racist but I have yet to find a Thai girl that likes African American men. That is a fact and while I grew up in the states and have many black friends, the Thai's are incredibly racist in this area. They avoid African Americans unless they know them as friends of friends.
I have personally seen hundreds of Thai women run away from African Americans in Neptunes and I always feel bad since that racism is a unfortunate trait of Thai's.
So yes in your mind you were lucky but in reality in her mind she was unlucky.(The fact that you believe she works in a hotel in Thailand and is here for fun is the first sign of your distortion of reality).
Also, the Japanese thing is another bullshit. She was most likely one of the 2 old Chinese hags they allow to enter into Neptunes.
[QUOTE=Softy]Just for the record, I have had a periodic freebie from Neptunes, Fenwicks and particularly Laguna. .[/QUOTE]
How many have been Thai?? Flippers are a completely different story. Laguna on Sundays is a no brainer for freebies for Indo's.
Neptunes on a Monday for a freebie Thai on first meet? That I have to question.
You are right some of the mammasans have been trying to raise the prices. They have not been successful. It's like in P. Burgos in Manila when business was down and they tried to jack up the prices and then business was down even more.
One of the larger import operations in Wan Chai will not even bring any of the girls that they have previously brought into Wan Chai as they try to establish higher prices. I was chatting with one girl last night who came by herself to Hong Kong as she had previously been brought over a couple times by this operation. She had a little bit of a problem scrapping up the "show money" but is loving it her without an agent. She is making so much more money for herself as she does not have an agent cutting into her earnings.
I do not expect the mammasans will be able to move the market upward so dramatically as there is too much competition from Thais, freelancers, maids. A number of girls went home over the last quarter in pretty bad spirits as they got very little business by having to stick to the prices their mammasans were asking them to get. While Wan Chai is one of the more expensive places to monger in Hong Kong if you try to charge more than the regular Wan Chai market price you are not going to get much business. There is just too much competition for oligopoly pricing to come into play. It is nice that at least a few industries in Hong Kong are free from collusion and oligopoly forces.
[QUOTE=Softy]For a few months, it seemed as all the managers (mammas) of the new Philippa girls in Wan Chai wanted to standardize the pricing at $1500 HKD for all night and $1000 HKD for ST. For the first time ever, I had girls unwilling to negotiate for a period of about four months over the summer. As a result, I tended to hit the Thai and Indo girls more often as well as the periodic Chinese girl.
It seems that revenue was down as one girl told me over the weekend and the Philippina girls are once again a bit more independent - outside of Fenwicks. Had one from Laguna this past weekend that was kind of a newbie and inexperienced but willing to please. She asked $1500. She read the look on my face and said I was a nice guy and $1000 would do. It was only 6 pm and this was for all night, so I did not even bother to negotiate more. 4 pops by morning made it a relative bargain.
The next night, Saturday, I fell asleep (Jet Lag), woke up at 2 am, could not sleep, headed to Wan Chai, dropped in at the Galaxy and headed out with a hottie for $500 HKD short term and got the best bbj I have had in a long time.
So, the Philippina mommas have realized that $1500 HKD for long time in the HK market is not sustainable.[/QUOTE]
In regard to Thai freebies and Asian culture in general...
I would have to agree with the posters that Johnjohnjr2000 experience was probably not a genuine freebie but a WG who had expected payment in the morning.
One of the delights of mongering in Wan Chai is happening on the occansional sweet young thing in one of the bars. A few drinks, a dance, talk and onto an invitation to stay the night. You have her total attention,soak up her compliments and generally feel like an invigorated younger man. If no money is mentioned from her side, why ruin the atmosphere. After all you know she is a WG and know the standard rates but it is nice to have an illusion of a GF, so don't taint it with money talk. This all works out fine, just slip you the correct fee in the morning.
Unfortunately this scenario is not always the case. Sometime a girl who seems very sweet in the bar, turns aggressive about payment and extras, short cutting the service and the time. A real bummer if you have invested time and money in Wan Chai rather than a quick fix in a yellow sign or 141.
Many of the sweet girls turn hard due to bad experiences in the past. Some like Johnjohnjr2000 are mistakes (not doubt lack of experience on both sides) others are mongers who just don't care.
If like me you like the GFE try to positively reinforce this type of experience for the girl so she is happy to oblige next time. For Asian girls you will find they don't always communicate their needs and wants directly. You have to read the signals and respond appropriately. If nothing else being in a bar in Wan Chai apart from on Sunday is a sure sign a girl is expecting payment, exceptions might be a domestic helper or a girl who buys her own drinks (extremely rare) or at least does not ask for "lady drinks" such as Marguerita.
I have had dozen of girls from Wan Chai without discussing payment first. I have also had a number of freebies. In almost all cases the morning transaction was smooth, appreciated and expected. In one case a DH was expecting shopping whereas I assumed was free with dinner, and another asked for $500 more than I had given which was sorted out amicably without further exchange.
Anyway in summary if the girl does not appear like a hardened pro, try not to make her into one by fulfilling your side of the deal
BJK
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]I know it was her because she was my only working girl partner for 3 weeks. I only have one non-WG partner who I know is clean. And THANK GOD I haven't fucked her this week, the shit sure would have hit the fan!
This is why I always say have fun and STAY SAFE.
Johnny Rocket.[/QUOTE]
I noticed you posted on oct 6th about having a DATY,BBBJ session with a 141 girl. It is entirely possible she gave it to you since it may take up to 30 days for symptoms to appear.
"The fact sheet from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) states, "Many men with gonorrhea may have no symptoms at all, some men have some signs or symptoms that appear two to five days after infection; symptoms can take as long as 30 days to appear. Symptoms and signs include a burning sensation when [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112][CodeWord112][/url], or a white, yellow, or green discharge from the penis. Sometimes men with gonorrhea get painful or swollen testicles."
Guys, to answer your questions and comments:
Eye Spy, yes I did do BBBJ as well as DATY. My dick touched her pussy outside and lips briefly but did not enter her.
HK Dog: You are right, it certainly could take up to a month to appear. But, that is a relatively rare case. The doctor I saw confirmed that the 2-5 day incubation was by far the most likely scenario.
Gyaos: I speak Cantonese better than any foreigner I know, but not well enough to go in to 37D and explain what happened. I wonder what their reaction to it would be even if I did. My guess would be denial.
I have finished my course of antibiotics and all seems clean. In a few days there should be no doubt. Thankfully.
As it happens I'll be either hosting visitors, out of town or just too damn busy over the next few weeks, so this is a good time for me to take a break. But I'll be back to P4P a bit later and I will still be on the board, chiming in as necessary.
Take care guys. Have fun and stay safe!!
Johnny Rocket
Hello to all,
During my upcoming Trip I am interested in meeting a hot Russian girl in Hong Kong.
Another Question: are there Erotic Shows or Striptease in Hong Kong?
I know, there are more Asian girls, but as I will proceed to Thailand I prefer the diversity.
[QUOTE=Traveller08]Hello to all,
During my upcoming Trip I am interested in meeting a hot Russian girl in Hong Kong.
Another Question: are there Erotic Shows or Striptease in Hong Kong?
I know, there are more Asian girls, but as I will proceed to Thailand I prefer the diversity.[/QUOTE]
For that flavour you have to take the 1hr ferry to Macau. There you will find Russian girls. However I wouldn't call them 'hot' but if you really want then you can imagine they are.
Decided to try out the 141 route and say that near to my service apartment, there was this buidling with 6 hotties. Went to 5th floor and rang the bell. This PRC girl with apparently not too large tits opened and welcomed me in. No english but a friendly welcoming attitude.
Lotsa kissing including toungue started even before the shower and I think to myself, man I seem to be in the right place. The shower was good too with lotsa BJ action. That's when I noticed that my impression about her tits was wrong. They were a handful, just about the right size. We retired to the bed with a world class BBJ. I insisted on returning the favour and we got into a 69 position. I experimented with a finger in the ass to which there was no objection!
We started with her riding me and making all the right sounds. Curiosity got the better of me and I pointed to doggy style with the ass as a preference. The babe readily agreed, put some KY jelly on and held my dick to guide to her ass.
Guys this was a smoothest ride I have had in a long time as a matter of fact, the last one like this was in Shenzhen at the ShangriLa about 18 months ago.
Her ass contractions were so good that I popped a load in barely 5 mins. She insisted that i stay the whole hour and gave me a great BJ to make me pop my 2nd load.
All in all a definite repeat. Oh and the relevant details are
5th Floor, Hing Loong building, Opp cosco tower. Girl is called Kai sai and damages were HK$400. TOTALLY WORTH IT.
[QUOTE=Member #2634]Decided to try out the 141 route and say that near to my service apartment, there was this buidling with 6 hotties. Went to 5th floor and rang the bell. This PRC girl with apparently not too large tits opened and welcomed me in. No english but a friendly welcoming attitude.
Lotsa kissing including toungue started even before the shower and I think to myself, man I seem to be in the right place. The shower was good too with lotsa BJ action. That's when I noticed that my impression about her tits was wrong. They were a handful, just about the right size. We retired to the bed with a world class BBJ. I insisted on returning the favour and we got into a 69 position. I experimented with a finger in the ass to which there was no objection!
We started with her riding me and making all the right sounds. Curiosity got the better of me and I pointed to doggy style with the ass as a preference. The babe readily agreed, put some KY jelly on and held my dick to guide to her ass.
Guys this was a smoothest ride I have had in a long time as a matter of fact, the last one like this was in Shenzhen at the ShangriLa about 18 months ago.
Her ass contractions were so good that I popped a load in barely 5 mins. She insisted that i stay the whole hour and gave me a great BJ to make me pop my 2nd load.
All in all a definite repeat. Oh and the relevant details are
5th Floor, Hing Loong building, Opp cosco tower. Girl is called Kai sai and damages were HK$400. TOTALLY WORTH IT.[/QUOTE]
That girl goes by various names. I believe on the 141 sites she calls herself Pan Dan. Personally I tried her about 3 yrs ago when she was working on Mercer St and I thought she was a few yrs past her sell by date back then.
Warning! There are rumors on another website about her in that she steals money from your wallet when you aren't looking so be careful.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Guys, to answer your questions and comments:
Eye Spy, yes I did do BBBJ as well as DATY. My dick touched her pussy outside and lips briefly but did not enter her.
As it happens I'll be either hosting visitors, out of town or just too damn busy over the next few weeks, so this is a good time for me to take a break. But I'll be back to P4P a bit later and I will still be on the board, chiming in as necessary.
Take care guys. Have fun and stay safe!
Johnny Rocket[/QUOTE] Do you think you will go back to 37 Dundass? For me it is too hard to resist.
Actually dan dan is on the 6th floor. Tried her too. Not too good though.
[QUOtE=Hk Dog]That girl goes by various names. I believe on the 141 sites she calls herself Pan Dan. Personally I tried her about 3 yrs ago when she was working on Mercer St and I thought she was a few yrs past her sell by date back then.
Warning! There are rumors on another website about her in that she steals money from your wallet when you aren't looking so be careful.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Member #2634]Actually dan dan is on the 6th floor. Tried her too. Not too good though.[/QUOTE]
You sure? I'll take your word for it, but the 2 sites (****** and 161sex) have Dan Dan on the 5th floor.
hong kong (dpa) - a 20-year-old filipino woman has been arrested
following the death of two us businessmen allegedly given a ``date
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]'' drug in a luxury hong kong hotel, a report said monday.
the woman was arrested hours after richard victor, 51, and paul
cherry, 45, were found with white froth coming from their mouths in a
room of the 600 us dollar-a-night grand hyatt hotel on friday.
the two men are understood to have visited a number of ``girlie''
bars in the notorious wan chai red light district before their deaths
and to have returned to their hotel with two women, the hong kong
standard reported.
the filipino woman, who had overstayed her visa, was arrested eight
hours after the discovery of the men's bodies after police studied
closed circuit television footage from the hotel, the newspaper said.
it was not clear if the woman was being held in connection with the
killings but the newspaper said the men returned to the hotel before
their deaths with one blonde woman and one thai or filipino woman.
police are understood to be investigating whether the two men died
after being given lethal doses of the ``date [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]'' drug
flunitrazepam, or rohypnol in a botched robbery.
there was no sign of injuries on the men or ransacking in the room
and one was found slumped partially on a chair while the other man was
found dead on a bed.
a number of men have been robbed with the use of the drug in hong
kong in recent years, usually after picking up prostitutes from bars
in the city's wan chai nightclub strip.
in most cases, the drug is slipped into a drink and victims report
visiting bars and then waking up to find they have lost large sums of
money with no recollection of what happened.
in 2003, a senior finnish policeman died of a heart attack in hong
kong's island shangri-la hotel after being administered with the drug.
the chinese prostitute suspected of giving him the drug was never
traced.
I regret to report that virtually all 141s in National Court, once the mecca of 141 activity in Kowloon, have been closed.
When I was in Hong Kong six months ago, 80% of the rooms in National Court were rented to the 200+ providers working there. Today, there were only 10-15 remaining.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend]I regret to report that virtually all 141s in National Court, once the mecca of 141 activity in Kowloon, have been closed.
When I was in Hong Kong six months ago, 80% of the rooms in National Court were rented to the 200+ providers working there. Today, there were only 10-15 remaining.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. Haven't been in a while since I figured that the whole crackdown (Buddhist chants, checking IDs at the lobby), would reduce the number of visitors, hence providers (business downturn, plenty of good alternative working locations). Hope the other homeowners don't follow National Court's lead.
Of course, you can just walk across the street to New Lucky House. Looks like the owners and providers there are the big winners.
[quote=hk dog]hong kong (dpa). a 20-year-old filipino woman has been arrested following the death of two us businessmen allegedly given a ''date [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]'' drug in a luxury hong kong hotel, a report said monday.
the woman was arrested hours after richard victor, 51, and paul cherry, 45, were found with white froth coming from their mouths in a room of the 600 us dollar-a-night grand hyatt hotel on friday.
the two men are understood to have visited a number of ''girlie'' bars in the notorious wan chai red light district before their deaths and to have returned to their hotel with two women, the hong kong standard reported.
the filipino woman, who had overstayed her visa, was arrested eight hours after the discovery of the men's bodies after police studied closed circuit television footage from the hotel, the newspaper said.
it was not clear if the woman was being held in connection with the killings but the newspaper said the men returned to the hotel before their deaths with one blonde woman and one thai or filipino woman.
police are understood to be investigating whether the two men died after being given lethal doses of the ''date [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]'' drug flunitrazepam, or rohypnol in a botched robbery.
there was no sign of injuries on the men or ransacking in the room and one was found slumped partially on a chair while the other man was found dead on a bed.
a number of men have been robbed with the use of the drug in hong kong in recent years, usually after picking up prostitutes from bars in the city's wan chai nightclub strip.
in most cases, the drug is slipped into a drink and victims report visiting bars and then waking up to find they have lost large sums of money with no recollection of what happened.
in 2003, a senior finnish policeman died of a heart attack in hong kong's island shangri-la hotel after being administered with the drug. the chinese prostitute suspected of giving him the drug was never traced. [/quote]it's sort of curious, actually, that they found the flipper/thai provider so quickly but never found the chinese provider from 2003. wonder if they just randomly grabbed a reasonably similar looking flipper (re: video camera evidence) and nailed her for the deed. they didn't find the blonde woman after all.
hey, maybe this helps depress pricing in wan chai. there's a silver lining in every tragedy!
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Felt horny so I went to the 8 Mong Kok YS as discussed in the last few posts. One thing to note is that there are a lot of 8 Mong Kok Streets, 8, 8A, 8B, etc all the way up to 8E as far as I saw, and some of them are separated by Portland Street. Very strange. The one you want is just 8. If you take the MTR to Mong Kok Station and take exit A2, turn right out of the exit, walk a block then cross Mong Kok St, you'll be close. In the entryway you'll see a yellow sign. Go up 2 flights of stairs and walk down the hallway, the entrance is on the left.
[/QUOTE]
The directions above are mostly correct but potentially misleading. Once you cross Mongkok Road, you turn left immediately (not mentioned in the directions above). Because if you don't turn left and walk straight ahead, there is indeed a large yellow sign. But it's a sign for a seperate karaoke place.
So a more correct direction follows:
- Exit A2, Mongkok MTR station
- Turn right upon exiting
- Cross Mongkok Road
- Turn left immediately after crossing
- After a few paces, look for white sign with blue chinese characters. Enter that entryway.
I had my first experience there and will post a report next week after I leave Hong Kong. I may return to the place later this week and don't want the papasan to remember me from an internet posting. I know for a fact that he reads them. In general, the place is everything described by previous posters.
Another US aircraft carrier is coming to town this weekend.
Expect the worse in Wan Chai with all those hungry sailors looking for sex.
[QUOTE=Beijing Lover]Another US aircraft carrier is coming to town this weekend.
Expect the worse in Wan Chai with all those hungry sailors looking for sex.[/QUOTE]And a second carrier group will come later in November.
Two lots of fleet in the same month. The streets will be ankle deep in runny stuff.
[QUOTE=Neuromancer]Thanks for the update. Haven't been in a while since I figured that the whole crackdown (Buddhist chants, checking IDs at the lobby), would reduce the number of visitors, hence providers (business downturn, plenty of good alternative working locations). Hope the other homeowners don't follow National Court's lead.
Of course, you can just walk across the street to New Lucky House. Looks like the owners and providers there are the big winners.[/QUOTE]
I've noticed a sharp increase in providers at New Lucky House and Foremost Building. But the increase is no where close to absorbing all the losses at National Court.
I hope there isn't a disturbing anti-141 trend in the city. I've noticed Fook Kiu Building in TST, one of my favorites, also has a lot of empty rooms. I think illegal immigrant sweeps are having a negative impact on the industry. On many doors at Fook Kiu, it says "HK gal" -- perhaps alerting authorities that it isn't occupied by an illegal mainlander.
Furthermore, as we get closer to the 2008 Olympic Games, there may be added pressure to clean up vice. The Equestrian events are being held in Hong Kong.
The big 141 complexes in Causeway Bay were as busy as usual.
Firstly guys this is one of the most informative sites I have read. Keep it coming.
Can any one tell me if there will be any US carrier or ships coming to Hong Kong between the 11th - 18th of November. Obviously I will be there during that time and could not think of anything worse than having to compete with the Navy Boys. Any information would be really helpful.
[QUOTE=Beijing Lover]Another US aircraft carrier is coming to town this weekend. Expect the worse in Wan Chai with all those hungry sailors looking for sex.[/QUOTE]
Anyone know which one it is?
Gyaos.
[QUOTE=Gyaos]Anyone know which one it is?
Gyaos.[/QUOTE]
USS Essex!
[QUOTE=King Leonidis]Firstly guys this is one of the most informative sites I have read. Keep it coming.
Can any one tell me if there will be any US carrier or ships coming to Hong Kong between the 11th - 18th of November. Obviously I will be there during that time and could not think of anything worse than having to compete with the Navy Boys. Any information would be really helpful.[/QUOTE]Easy, just take a 45 minute ride into mainland, like Shenzhen, and you can get all you want and not ever have to worry about seeing any U.S. military at anytime. (they can't go there).
[QUOTE=Cleaning Boy]Easy, just take a 45 minute ride into mainland, like Shenzhen, and you can get all you want and not ever have to worry about seeing any U.S. military at anytime. (they can't go there).[/QUOTE]
I agree, also hotels and girls in Shenzhen is way cheaper than Hong Kong. Check out the Shenzhen post for details. I am always amazed that tourist guys pay big bucks for sex on Hong Kong island and Tsim Sha Tsui, especially from Flips and Thai girls. Sex with these girls is dirt cheap in their own country.
Also, lots of these girls are always trying to scam you, just think of the deaths that have taken place over the past several years with tourist guys picking up girls from the Wan Chai and TST area--it's no joke.
One may think it is not a problem to pick up girls in these areas. But think for a moment, here you are paying HK$500, 1,000, 1,500 or more for sex. In their country, this would feed a family for several months. What they get paid (overpriced) for one sex session, it would take them 1 to 2 months to earn (working a regular job) in their country. When you pay big bucks for sex, these girls think you are RICH! Of course these dirt poor girls are going to try to steal it from you, I would too if I was in their shoes.
It's like having a table full of food and throwing a hungry man some bread, of course he is going to try to steal food from you when you are not looking, or even kill you for all of it. This is human nature.
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]I agree, also hotels and girls in Shenzhen is way cheaper than Hong Kong. Check out the Shenzhen post for details. I am always amazed that tourist guys pay big bucks for sex on Hong Kong island and Tsim Sha Tsui, especially from Flips and Thai girls. Sex with these girls is dirt cheap in their own country. [/QUOTE]1. Most visitors to HK probably dont have required chinese visas to get into china. I do and agree with your assesment and love it in Shenzhen.
2. Only mainlander chinese there. No ethnic variety that HK has.
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]One may think it is not a problem to pick up girls in these areas. But think for a moment, here you are paying HK$500, 1,000, 1,500 or more for sex. In their country, this would feed a family for several months. What they get paid (overpriced) for one sex session, it would take them 1 to 2 months to earn (working a regular job) in their country. [/QUOTE]I know basic factory workers in china get about 1600RMB a month.
Since discovering this place on the forum, I can't stay away! For about four times in a row, I had Shon-Shon. She's a bit taller than the other girls, short hair, and nice set of curves. As my Chinese is about as good as her English, there was not a lot of verbal exchange, but I did gather that she is from Beijing. Anyway, she does a masterful job in the shower, a fantastic BBBJ, and rubbing her crack with my soaped up dick almost caused me to drop my load there and then. Onto the bed with lots of kissing and hugging, and she turned me over for the rimming and worked REAL hard to get her tongue as far into my ass as possible. Back into the 69 position and I tried to reciprocate with my tongue was well as covering every other place in her crotch. On with the condom, and very spirited fucking in the three basic positions, and in doggy style, she even took it in the ass a bit, which was surprising, but she seemed to really enjoy it. We were still coupled when the phone rang it's 10-minute warning, and again 10 minutes later. We scrambled to shower and get dressed. Highly recommended!
Bob
Do the ladies from Fenwick or Neptune provide the condoms when you take them to your room. Or is it better to prepare and take them with you on the trip?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Jayson420]1. Most visitors to HK probably dont have required chinese visas to get into china. I do and agree with your assesment and love it in Shenzhen.
2. Only mainlander chinese there. No ethnic variety that HK has.
I know basic factory workers in china get about 1600RMB a month.[/QUOTE]
Good points. My x-girlfriend (20 y.o.) on Cebu island in the Philippines made (with the exchange rate) U.S.$1.50 A DAY working at McDonald's. The McDonald's in Thailand pays about a little more based on what my friends there told me, (with the exchange rate) U.S.$1.80.
When a sex tourist in the Wan Chai bar pays a girl HK$1,000 for sex for ST, it would have taken that Flip girl 86 days to make the same amount of money working at a regular job in PI (e.g., McDonald's).
I realize that a few guys will be angry with me for bring up the point they are paying way too much for sex in certain parts of HK. Especially when you consider how cheap Thai and Flip girls are in there own country. Of course, it is their money and it is none of my business what they do with it.
And sure, if they want to throw their money around as tourist and become targets (just like the two that were killed a few weeks ago), this too is none of my business. I only provide this information for those who are interested and want to learn the ropes of HK.
Where to find cheap and good sex in HK? Simple, go where the locals go. Mong kok, Prince Edward, Yau Ma Tei, Sham Shui Po, the info is listed on the 141s web sites. Also, the Yellow Signs in Mong Kok, and who can forget 37 Dundas!
[QUOTE=FurryFriend]I regret to report that virtually all 141s in National Court, once the mecca of 141 activity in Kowloon, have been closed.
When I was in Hong Kong six months ago, 80% of the rooms in National Court were rented to the 200+ providers working there. Today, there were only 10-15 remaining.[/QUOTE]That's a pity as those 141 girls are great.
Are the security guys still checking the IDs of people entering these 141 houses?
[quote=hk dog]hong kong (dpa) - a 20-year-old filipino woman has been arrested following the death of two us businessmen allegedly given a ``date
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]'' drug in a luxury hong kong hotel, a report said monday.......[/quote]
this drugging goes on for a few years. in 2003 a finnish visitor died of an overdose. the police has a few 100 reports of suspected druggings in wanchai. since most will not report it the actual number must be in the 1000's.
some time last year (i think it was) canadian air forbid its staff to go to certain places in wanchai because of a few drugging cases there.
this drugging does not take place in the room, it happens usually in the bar and you will stay awake, but easily influenced. a girl will probably go with you to the nearest atm and withdraw the maximum possible amount.
there was a big artvle about in yesterdays sunday morning post, i will scan it one of these days.
Yeah we all get a little antsy when we see them in town but really the only thing we gotta worry about is that the bars get a litlte fuller.
Firstly most of the Filipinas won't go with Navy guys due to colour.
Second, mny of the working girls know for sure these guys don't have a lot of money and they arent going to spend it on girls. Basic pay in the military isn't high.
Third. These guys have a strong rep for not paying for services provided. These guys tend to stay ten to a room. And guess what. When they pulll a girl to the hotel its well known they all want a bit. These girls don't want to go there.
So yeah. We all hate our bars crowded with guys with shorts 34 sizes too big for them and oversized shoes the size of bulldozers. But they don't mess up the female scene.
[QUOTE=Lexito]Do the ladies from Fenwick or Neptune provide the condoms when you take them to your room. Or is it better to prepare and take them with you on the trip?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
From previous experience it seems some do and some don't. However the 7-1 1 isn't too far away.
[QUOTE=Lexito]Do the ladies from Fenwick or Neptune provide the condoms when you take them to your room. Or is it better to prepare and take them with you on the trip?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Dear Lexito,
weather or not the girls carry condom or not, condoms are dime a dozen at every 7-11 stores throughout HK and most, if not, all 7-11 are open 24/7.
If I recall from what I've read on the forum, girls do NOT carry condom because if they get stopped by police and their purse is searched, that is some sort of proof that they working girls and not tourists as they should be.
W
[QUOTE=Lexito]Do the ladies from Fenwick or Neptune provide the condoms when you take them to your room. Or is it better to prepare and take them with you on the trip?
Thanks[/QUOTE]I always buy the Okamoto "Crowns"
[url]http://www.okamotousa.com/htmls/crown.htm[/url]
They are about $18HKD for 3 pack. And they are super thin. Feel almost like nothing is on. And I have not had any break yet. Although I did lose one in a KTV chick in shenzhen since I only rolled it on half way. LOL. My bad.
Looks like the girls involved in the Hyatt incident were out of Club Showbiz.
That's correct on the Navy--those guys don't spend any money and as such the bar scene in Wanchai is fairly safe.
[QUOTE=Intransit]Looks like the girls involved in the Hyatt incident were out of Club Showbiz. [/QUOTE]
In August 2006 British Airways banned staff from visiting a popular Wan
Chai bar because of "a few cases" of staff beiing drugged there. However, the bar was not named.
I suggest you take only as much cash as you need and leave your cards at home.
i will clear up a few points that have been raised:
1) the guys who died in the hyatt it turns out were neither drugged or robbed. they did bring a couple girls back to their room from wan chai but they died of a cocaine and heroin overdose or it was a bad batch. sorry i do not do drugs so i do not know the right terminology.
2) the bar that some airlines have banned their staff from going to is dusk till dawn. in the past it has been very popular with pilots and stewardesses. i have not been there for a few years. there have been many stories and rumours of some of the thai girls who hang out there drugging people and robbing them. it is the one bar in wan chai i do not go to. as the owner of it passed away earlier this year perhaps it will clean up. their establishments in lan kwai fong (insomnia) and knutsford steps (all night long) are much better. i always thought it was a weird place as it was the only place in wan chai full of lots of western men and women and lots of hookers.
3) another part of the wan chai scene that i do not partake in that a word of warning should go out on is there are also many stories and rumours that some of the ladyboys from thailand that visit and hang out by delany's drug and rob people.
3) very few factory workers in china get rmb1,600 per month. most foreign firms pay between rmb800 to rmb1,200 per month and these are the rates around the pearl river and yangtze delta. office staff tend to get rmb1,500 to rmb5,000 depending on the location and job. office workers in large centres like shenzhen and shanghai can get more.
4) as for pricing in wan chai i wrote a much longer report about it previously but if you want a flipper or thai to be imported, serve you in english and be in the high rent district then expect to pay more. on a tuesday night on the way home from the office i may want to get laid and do not have the time to fly overseas and may not want the hassle of going to kowloon. i could save a lot of money living in sham tsui po but yet i still choose to have my residence on hong kong island. that does not mean that people should pay stupid amounts in wan chai. i have a regular lined up for tonight after work who is 23, petite, great body who is fantastic in the sack and up for anything who i will do three times and i usually give her $400-500 plus buy her a couple real drinks (not commission drinks) in a bar in wan chai.
5) while our police force in hong kong is one of the best in the world there are a few areas in regards to law enforcement that should be changed. one regards condoms. girls carrying condoms can have that used as evidence that they are working here and not tourists although usually the cops just scare them into admitting that they are working if they have a condom on them. i think it is sad as health and disease prevention should be more important to the cops. most of the short time hotels in hong kong provide condoms but i always go to 7-11 as i trust 7-11 significantly more.
6) much has been written on the navy previously on the boards but generally speaking those of us who live here dislike it when the navy comes to town, they are noisy, harass the girls, fill up the bars and cause a lot of girls not to go out. i tend to avoid wan chai whenever the navy is in town and either go kowloon side or do what i am doing tonight and having a wan chai girl meet me elsewhere. the ripoff girlie bars tend to do well when the navy is in town but they ensure that they get paid.
7) here is the article from the south china morning post on sunday
44 foreign men report drugging in wan chai
barclay crawford
updated on nov 04, 2007
police have revealed that 44 foreign men have reported being drugged and robbed by sex workers in wan chai's bar district since 2004.
but they believe the figures could be much higher as many do not report the crime out of embarrassment or because they have left the city by the time they realise it.
there have been no confirmed reports of date-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] drugs such as rohypnol or gamma hydroxybutyrate (ghb) being used during the crimes.
but the spokesman said the victims all reported similar stories, which suggested "some type of date-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] drugs had been used".
"since 2004, wan chai district police have recorded 44 theft cases in which the victims - mostly foreign nationals - were approached by sex workers while they were having drinks in bars," the spokesman said.
"some victims couldn't remember much and would only make reports days or weeks after the event when they received their bank statements and confirmed unexplained withdrawals via atms.
"other victims discovered cash and other valuables missing when they awoke in their hotel or short-stay motel room."
police said they were tackling the problem by educating bar owners, checking they were properly licensed and making their presence known in the area.
joint operations with immigration department officers which targeted sex workers were also conducted regularly.
since 2004, 496 foreign sex workers on visitors' visas have been arrested for breaking the terms of their stay. of these, 310 were charged with offences including prostitution and theft.
british airways banned staff from visiting a popular late-night bar in wan chai last year after several crew members were allegedly slipped a date-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] drug.
rohypnol and ghb are tasteless and colourless, and sufficient doses erase the victim's memory of events which occur while they are under the influence.
they depress the central nervous and respiratory systems, and if a dose is too big, it can lead to memory loss, coma and even death.
drugged and ripped off: welcome to wan chai
a few drinks with friends can turn into a potentially lethal nightmare
nick gentle
updated on nov 04, 2007
it was a typical friday night not so long ago that james (not his real name) rolled into a wan chai bar to celebrate the end of the week with a few friends. a couple of hours went by and, like most people there, he was living it up, drinking, dancing and carrying on with his friends. all of a sudden, however, he felt like he'd probably had about six drinks too many. "i just kind of went, `my god, i feel really, really drunk ... i've gotta go'," he says.
from that point, his memories are hazy. he says he remembers being in a taxi and a woman getting in alongside him. he told her to get out, but she refused. the next thing he knew, he woke up in the taxi as it was barrelling down gloucester road. he sensed some time had passed and that something was very wrong.
"i was pretty sure i'd been ripped off," says james, who has heard of similar things happening to other people. "i remember being really angry and shouting at the girl and the taxi driver to stop and let me out. as i was getting out, the girl stopped me and said, `you forgot your wallet' and handed it over to me. i knew then that i had been robbed, but i thought it was probably just what was in my wallet at the time; maybe hk$500 or so."
it was only the following day, after waking up feeling "not just hung over, but groggy", that james discovered hk$20,000 missing from his bank account.
"now that i think of it, i can kind of remember being at the atm with the girl, who was hiding her face, and her telling me what to get. i know when i saw how much came out i freaked out."
but between that and waking up in the taxi ... nothing.
james is sure he was drugged by someone spiking his drink at the bar. he is one of a steadily growing number of expatriates who have fallen victim to gangs of thieves using drugs to sedate and then rob their well-heeled targets.
in recent years, the sunday morning post has received numerous anecdotal reports of this practice taking place. since 2004, police headquarters in wan chai have recorded a total of 44 theft cases in which the victims (mostly foreign nationals) were drugged by sex workers they met in bars. however, the real figure is almost certainly much greater, because the offence generally goes unreported to police, as in james' case.
"there are a lot of reasons why people don't report such things," one police source says. number one among those reasons is embarrassment.
whether it is drunkenly signing a hugely inflated credit card bill, being drugged and robbed, or forced to hand over money to a prostitute who is threatening to scream "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]", the source says that a big question for the victim was: "how am i going to explain that to my wife?"
the victims range from tourists to top lawyers and are often successful professionals. the minuscule chance of actually getting their money back doesn't rate when compared with the potential hassles associated with admitting they had somehow been duped by a bar girl into handing over either their pin or a thick wad of cash.
it is difficult for police to make investigating cases like james' a priority without a report being made, the source says.
"what's the point?" james asks. "i don't think i could recognise the girl in a lineup, and it was me who took the money out."
but more concerning than the fact that the crimes are going unreported, is the manner in which they are executed - people having potentially lethal drugs administered to them in an uncontrolled environment.
the two substances thought to be most commonly employed in drug-assisted robbery are the so-called date [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] drugs - flunitrazepam (brand name rohypnol) and ghb (gamma hydroxybutyrate), also known as fantasy or liquid ecstasy.
both drugs are highly soluble, odourless, relatively tasteless and colourless, and work quickly to suppress the central nervous systems of people who ingest them.
ghb is particularly suited to this sort of crime because it occurs naturally in the body and is relatively easy to make. in fact, because the body makes it, all that needs to be done is for a person to ingest a precursor chemical that the body turns into ghb.
as it turns out, the chemical most commonly used for that purpose is a reagent found in many household cleaners. it can be bought in hong kong in bulk in 99.99 per cent pure form in quantities ranging from a single 500ml bottle to multiple 200kg drums.
a us department of justice report concluded that the incidence of ghb being used to facilitate crimes like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] or robbery "is likely to be unreported or unsubstantiated because ghb is quickly eliminated from the body, making detection in body fluids unlikely. it's fast onset of depressant effects may render the victim with little memory of the details of the attack".
but memory loss is not the biggest risk with these sorts of drugs. mixed with other drugs such as alcohol or cocaine, their suppressing effect on the nervous and respiratory systems is exacerbated. this can lead to coma or death.
in january 2003, in hong kong's most high-profile case to date of a drugging gone wrong, the body of chief superintendent kari juhani koivuniemi, 45, of finland's ministry of the interior police department was discovered in his room at the island shangri-la. it was reported at the time that the cause of death was a heart attack brought about by a combination of flunitrazepam and alcohol. a young woman was seen entering the hotel with him, visiting an atm with him, and then leaving on her own about three hours before his body was discovered.
the police source hints that such incidents may be more common than reported, and that occasional, otherwise inexplicable deaths of young and healthy tourists in their hotel rooms may have a more sinister cause than heart failure.
in the meantime, the bars are still full and the good times continue to roll, although many men, like james, are now keeping a closer eye on their drinks, and the people around them.
"the thing is, i went down to wan chai to see my friends," james says. "i didn't go down there to get drugged."
Eye Spy, I probably will go back to 37D, but it will be a while as I don't have time right now and if perhaps the clap is circulating there I'll give it time to clear up.
Guys, it's embarrassing as hell, but you must report any STD you catch from a WG on the board. We can help prevent the spread. If anyone had caught it from Ada, then gone back and given it to another girl, then another guy sees that girl, and so on and so on... let's not let it happen.
As for the Olympics, there might be pressure to clean up the vice, but it will be counteracted by a flood of incoming WGs. Every time there's a huge event like the World Cup or a big convention, the WGs flood in because they know it will be a gold mine. I wouldn't worry too much about the well drying up.
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket
For the newbies reading the reports below regarding the problems and confusion in the Wan Chai bar area and Fenwick types bars, are you starting to get the feeling Wan Chai is too much trouble to deal with? Add to this the tourist price for sex, which is way, way, way overpriced and you may conclude as I did many years ago, Wan Chai bar/sex outlets are a big waste of time.
Let's be clear about one fact, the Wan Chai bar scene is for sex tourist. Thus, the higher prices and rip-offs. Plus, many women see the men in these bars as targets. Why take a trip half way around the world to have trouble in a girlie bar....it is not worth it.
Also, another fact is the locals do NOT hang-out in the Wan Chai bars and there is a good reason for this. Which is, the local Chinese guys have known for years the Wn Chai bar area for girls is a rip-off. It always has been, and it always will be.
Ok, I am sure some guys will disagree with what I have written and that is fine. They love the bars there and are happy to pay HK$1,000 or more for ST. I mainly provide this information for the newbies who are trying to make an informed decision about where to spend their time.
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]Also, another fact is the locals do NOT hang-out in the Wan Chai bars and there is a good reason for this. Which is, the local Chinese guys have known for years the Wn Chai bar area for girls is a rip-off. It always has been, and it always will be.
QUOTE]
I think the ShowBiz girls slipped something in your drinks!!!!
The locals don't hang out there?? Which locals?? The local Expat community practically lives there!
If you are talking about the go go bars in Wan Chai then you might have a point. But not the freelance bars. You are so way off on that point.
The local Chinese do not go there because they don't like dark skinned girls. Simple as that. They go to karoake bars and spend 3K and get nothing in return.
Where is the best place to spend Chinese New Year?
Hong Kong?
Macau?
Shezhen?
Do more girls come to the city to party and work for the New Years?
or
Do they go back to their provinces to spend the holiday with their family?
[QUOTE=Hk Dog][QUOTE=Undercoverh]Also, another fact is the locals do NOT hang-out in the Wan Chai bars and there is a good reason for this. Which is, the local Chinese guys have known for years the Wn Chai bar area for girls is a rip-off. It always has been, and it always will be.
QUOTE]
I think the ShowBiz girls slipped something in your drinks!!!!
The locals don't hang out there?? Which locals?? The local Expat community practically lives there!
If you are talking about the go go bars in Wan Chai then you might have a point. But not the freelance bars. You are so way off on that point.
The local Chinese do not go there because they don't like dark skinned girls. Simple as that. They go to karoake bars and spend 3K and get nothing in return.[/QUOTE]
Oh, funny joke about slipped something in my drink, I LOL for about 1/2 second. Your generally statement about "The local Expat community practically lives there!" is dead wrong. I am an informed Expat and I never go there. Also, I know other Expats, some go, some stay away. Therefore, your blanket statement is way off the mark.
And yes, I am talking bout the go go bars and the freelance bars. Go go bars are more of the rip off, I will agree with you on that point. However, the freelance bars are way over priced for sex. If you think you are getting a good deal for sex at these places, by all means, continue to go there.
Again, your generalization about a group is way off the mark. What...you say, "Chinese do not go there because they don't like dark skinned girls. Simple as that." Are you Chinese? Well, I am 1/2 ABC Chinese so I know from personnel experience your statement is not only misinformed, wrong, but also full of sh_ _. Sorry, I take offense to the statement you made. My uncle in Kunming (white skinned Chinese man) is married to a dark skinned Chinese woman.
In addition, as you may know, there are yellow sign places in Mong kok that offer Flip and Thai girls. Who do you think are going to these places, certainly not mostly tourist, it is mostly local Chinese guys going there and enjoying a dark skinned women. Again, your statement is not based on fact.
Some guys from other countries come to HK, China, etc., pay too much to bang Asian women, eat some Asian food, sample some of the local Asian beer, stay too long in the country, and they think this makes them an expert on Chinese culture.....well it does not. I could go on, but I think I have said enough on the subject.
You also stated "they go to karoake bars and spend 3K and get nothing in return." Gee, this is sad how you write about something you know nothing about. Sure, we Chinese and HK guys are so stupid, we go to clubs, pay 3k, get drunk, and getting nothing in return....we do this time and time again...not knowing we should go to the freelance bars where the the Expats hang out where we can finally have sex...LOL. Again, your statement shows you know nothing about HK local sex outlets for the locals and informed Expats.
[QUOTE=WebConexxion]Where is the best place to spend Chinese New Year?
Hong Kong?
Macau?
Shezhen?
Do more girls come to the city to party and work for the New Years?
or
Do they go back to their provinces to spend the holiday with their family?[/QUOTE]Webconexxeion,
Chinese new year is the biggest holiday of the yr in China is when family and relative get together to share gift and dinner and most girl go home during this time and not a good time for mongering and you should stay home with your family.
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Undercoverh][QUOTE=Hk Dog]
Oh, funny joke about slipped something in my drink, I LOL for about 1/2 second. Your generally statement about "The local Expat community practically lives there!" is dead wrong. I am an informed Expat and I never go there. Also, I know other Expats, some go, some stay away. Therefore, your blanket statement is way off the mark.[/QUOTE]Lets just say if you are really a mongerer and steer people away from Wan Chai then life must have dealt you a poor deck in the financial arena.
[QUOTE=Undercoverh][QUOTE=Hk Dog]Again, your generalization about a group is way off the mark. What...you say, "Chinese do not go there because they don't like dark skinned girls. Simple as that." Are you Chinese? Well, I am 1/2 ABC Chinese so I know from personnel experience your statement is not only misinformed, wrong, but also full of sh_ _. Sorry, I take offense to the statement you made. My uncle in Kunming (white skinned Chinese man) is married to a dark skinned Chinese woman.[/QUOTE]Well I hate to think what the other 1/2 of you is since I thought the Chinese were smart and you are a dolt.
I was being diplomatic but for thick bricks like you I'll spell it out. The local Chinese are racists when it comes to Filipina's and Thai's and any dark south east asian girl.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog][QUOTE=Undercoverh]Well I hate to think what the other 1/2 of you is since I thought the Chinese were smart and you are a dolt.
I was being diplomatic but for thick bricks like you I'll spell it out. The local Chinese are racists when it comes to Filipina's and Thai's and any dark south east asian girl.[/QUOTE]Based on your last two post, I feel like I am discussing the subject of HK with a child (e.g., calling me names, etc.). When people revert to calling names, they do so because they have no ability to think logically and discuss a subject intelligently based on facts. In the future, I will not waste my time responding to any of your post directed towards me.........until you reach the age of at least 11.
Sex is cheaper in Mong Kok but it is wham bam. Lots of foreigners like to go to Wanchai cause you can have a beer and flirt with the gals even if you have no intention of shagging them. Most guys just don't walk into a bar, pick a gal and go out for a quickie. And they speak English. There are now a lot more older Chinese guys going to places like Neptune for a drink.
As for what guys spend at a KTV. I know guys that are wealthy enough that they will book a private room at a KTV to play pool and drink whre there is a minimum charge of $15k and not take the hostesses out at all. But for them $15k is like spending $100, so how is someone worth millions and has more money than you can shit, a dumbass. There are guys out there that will pay $100k for a night with a HK actress, and I am sue that she only has 1 pussy.
there are many different places to go out and get laid in hong kong. all of them have their place in the market. pricing at them is a function of location, their target market, language of service, what services are provided and girls.
wan chai is not the most expensive area in hong kong rather the second most. the most expensive would be some of the nightclubs in east tsim tsa tsui (and the few hidden away in causewaybay). if you want service in english it is the best place to go. i am not saying you won't find service in english in other areas just that it will be more difficult.
if you have read my previous posts you will see that i play around in all areas of hong kong from 8 mong kok road to the high class nightclubs (i even wrote a lengthy set of instructions for how other expats can enjoy the high class night clubs and not be scared off by them). all have their place. i tend to go to wan chai the most as i live on hong kong island and i like chatting in english. the majority of times i go to wan chai i do not pick anyone up but am just out having drinks with buddies.
a few misconceptions that should be cleared up. lots of local expats hang out in wan chai and by expat i mean 100% gweilo (white western men). wan chai is not always overly friendly to other races.
i have taken a few chinese peers out before and showed them wan chai and they have been blown away but they don't feel comfortable going with out someone like me and prefer to stick to nightclubs or macau.
perhaps why undercoverth is so down on wan chai is he is half chinese and unfortunately a fair number of the girls are racist. also i recall reading that undercoverth saying he is quite proficient in cantonese so that makes it easier to access some other places that some people limited to just communicating in english will not try. (as an aside i imagine being an abc and mixed in hong kong makes it difficult to fit in as one is not really a local but not really an expat. the hardest people we find to keep in our office are 100% abc, cbc, etc as often they get frustrated and move back to us, oz, canada, uk. the combination of language skills and western education they bring is of tremendous value for employers).
saying to avoid wan chai because it is expensive and locals will not go there is like saying to avoid p. burgos in manila or soi 33 or soi cowboy in bangkok as most local thai will not go there. lots of the expats who live in bangkok visit those places.
wan chai is quite safe. (hong kong in general is exceedingly safe). there is the occassional thing that happens there but stuff happens anywhere there is pay-for-play. i would say in my experience mong kok has far more incidents but i feel very safe in mong kok as well.
if you are an english speaking tourist through town new to asia i would recommend wan chai as the first place to get acquainted with the scene here or if you are an expat making decent coin wan chai can be a fun place to hang out and occasionally pick up. for people with money to burn or on expense accounts the night clubs in east tst are an experience although the ones in macau are much better in my opinion. for the more adventurous 141, saunas and other *****houses in jordon through sham shui po can be a fun time.
oh since this originally started in saying how dumb expats are throwing money away in wan chai i just thought of something. there is a particular members only club in central where the girls are white women and it is significantly more expensive than wan chai. as any expat who has lived here for a while knows white women are real easy lays in hong kong as most of the expat men have yellow fever and are off chasing asian women so they are starved for attention and easy to get in the sack. despite that fact there are local men spending small fortunes at this particular venue. i can understand it as it is very difficult on average for them to get with white women so i do make fun of any of them for spending what in my opinion seems to be far more than they should.
If you are looking for women during CNY I would suggest Thailand or the Philappines. Everyone goes home for CNY and spends time with family. It is like asking where would be good to go in the USA during Christmas. That does not mean the scene will be completely dead just much slower than normal. Wan Chai I imagine would be full of maids as there are so many off days and so many of their employers will be away on holiday. Macau might be busy as people may go there for holiday.
[QUOTE=WebConexxion]Where is the best place to spend Chinese New Year?
Hong Kong?
Macau?
Shezhen?
Do more girls come to the city to party and work for the New Years?
or
Do they go back to their provinces to spend the holiday with their family?[/QUOTE]
Well put Hunter on your Wan Chai expose. Lets just say diplomacy is not highly valued in my profession so I usually come off a bit direct.
I just can't believe Undercover is suggesting to a Newbie to avoid Wan Chai. I, like you, have done 99% of the sex scence in HK from the dirty filthy Mongkok brothels to the karoake where you spend 3K+ and get nothing. The local guys in my office despise Wan Chai for the reasons I described. They think they are above socializing with 'maids' or equivalents.
Imagine telling a Newbie that gets off a 20hr flight that they should head up to Mongkok for a 20 min wham bam and then go back to the hotel room? Most newbies want to have a good time which entails drinking, chatting and having a laugh. Perfect for Wan Chai scene and in fact the ONLY reason to discourage Wan Chai for a newbie is that it may totally distort their outlook on life and never go home
Part of the 1% scene which I don't partake in is what you also described. The 'white girl' market that the locals go nuts over. I remember a few yrs back I was set up with an English girl who was a model for one of the top international modelling companies in HK. I had absolutely no interest in her even though we got along ok and saw each other quite a bit. That would have been free for me (of course excluding the costs of normal 'courting'). However I have seen local Chinese guys pay 4-10K HKD to hideous looking white chicks in the 'hostess' bars in HK. Is that where the Newbies should be directed?
And let me make this very clear. The reason why Wan Chai has good value is I don't mind paying twice what I would pay in Mongkok or 141. In fact its cheap since at least I know if its relatively early in the night I know I will be the ONLY guy who plugged this girl today. Most girls are happy with one 'trick' per day in Wan Chai.
MKK, 141 etc you are going into territory where you share the pussy with possibly 10 other guys that day. For a guy who loves DATY and hygiene , Wan Chai is a bargain when you factor this in.
[QUOTE=Undercoverh][QUOTE=Hk Dog]In addition, as you may know, there are yellow sign places in Mong kok that offer Flip and Thai girls. Who do you think are going to these places, certainly not mostly tourist, it is mostly local Chinese guys going there and enjoying a dark skinned women. Again, your statement is not based on fact.[/QUOTE]All you are doing is proving my point. Would you care to elaborate why the dark skinned girls in Mongkok are 1/2 the price of the white skinned? Its certainly not a 'supply' side issue but 100% demand side if you know anything about economics.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Webconexxeion,
you should stay home with your family.
Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. But I don't have a family.
[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]If you are looking for women during CNY I would suggest Thailand or the Philappines. Everyone goes home for CNY and spends time with family. It is like asking where would be good to go in the USA during Christmas. That does not mean the scene will be completely dead just much slower than normal. Wan Chai I imagine would be full of maids as there are so many off days and so many of their employers will be away on holiday. Macau might be busy as people may go there for holiday.[/QUOTE]I can go to Thailand or Flipland 365 other days of the year. I really don't have any commitments or schedule to follow in my life so I can monger every day.
I like to see how different countries and cultures party. If I was to tell someone where to go in the US for Christmas or New Years I would say at least check out Times Square once in your life. The tree at Rockefeller Center and Times Square. But if freezing your ass off and being in big crowds is not your thing. They for sure Bourbon Street in New Orleans.
I am not into fu*king maids (you can read my other threads about that), but I don't mind parting with anyone looking to have a good time. I would like to check out fire works and just enjoy the festivities.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Well put Hunter on your Wan Chai expose. Lets just say diplomacy is not highly valued in my profession so I usually come off a bit direct.
I just can't believe Undercover is suggesting to a Newbie to avoid Wan Chai. I, like you, have done 99% of the sex scence in HK from the dirty filthy Mongkok brothels to the karoake where you spend 3K+ and get nothing. The local guys in my office despise Wan Chai for the reasons I described. They think they are above socializing with 'maids' or equivalents.[/QUOTE]
I, for one, am glad that you're misinforming newbies. Keep the tourists away from Mongkok or 141s so the price stays low for the rest of us who truly knows where the values are.
The truth is, only truly ignorant people would monger in Wanchai bars....unless you're into maids. Otherwise, if you're interested in sex, you get far better quality for lower prices elsewhere.
Nobody pays $3,000 to get "nothing". You're assuming people aren't rational with their money...a very poor assumption if you know anything about the mentality of your typical money-motivated Hong Konger.
I disagree. Wanchai is a great place to have a drink. listen to some good music, chill out, flirt and if you like what's on offer, by all means buy. We all know what the base prices are. Its up to us what amounts we want to spend. Some people, hungrier than most, will pay some ridiculous prices that we see. Wanchai for me is like the website alibaba. Wanchai is a place for buyers and sellers to congregate, and if the price is right, the deal is done. The buyer decides what he wants to pay.
Looking at the sale in Wanchai - boy spots girl, they chat, they dance, they flirt, they drink, they dance some more, they whisper in each other's ear and off they go hand in hand about an hour or so later, off to the short time hotel. $500 is my short time price. Add in 2 ladies drinks plus the motel charkes + 2 heinekens (happy hour prices)works out to 500+160+145+52 or $857.
The sale in Mongkok - let's take Dundas for example. Walk in, go to a room, get shown a line up. Pick and pay. Its $390 for 45 minutes, so if you want 1.5 hours, you pay $780. $100 for the room makes it a grand total of $880. You get to the room, strip, take a shower, and onto business. Finish, take a shower, and you're out. I'm calculating double time here to match up with the time you will get with a honey in Wanchai.
You can see there's not much difference in overall price here. Therefore the "tourist price for sex" all depends on the tourist himself.
However, like most places in the world, one needs to be aware and be careful with their surroundings. I frequently see people leaving their drinks on a bar or on a table and go off to dance with a girl. What a great opportunity to slip something in? I have a steadfast rule. If I have to leave my drink unattended, I make sure I finish most of it and when I return back, I will not touch the old drink. I'd rather be safe than sorry.
No locals in Wanchai? I beg to differ. I've been going to Laguna for the past 8 plus years. I see the same faces, some of whom go there daily. Yes they're westerners, but they live here. You will also see about a dozen or so local Chinese there. You will see local Chinese in Makati with their arms around some of their tasty Filipinas. Dreams has a number of local chinese people. Neptunes, as one poster mentioned has a few. Another thing that could be stopping more chinese from coming into the bars is the entry charges some places charge.
I go to various places. 141's, Dundas, Wanchai which is on my way home. I like China girls and tend to visit Dundas street once in a while. I went there last night. Paid for time and a half since I wanted to relax a bit, and was up in the room getting a massage when the cops raided. Lots of loud banging, lots of swear words, lights on and off. Had to try to put on my clothes in the deep dark. Had to open the door to the police while semi clothed. They took my hong kong identity details, my address, my handphone number, and I was stuck there for about 90 minutes. Had to ask permission to stand up, and permission to use the toilet which was four feet away. I know my rights so I had no real worries, but its not an experience I want to repeat.
Its not an experience I would want for a tourist coming to Hong Kong to experience either. On a positive side, it took my hard on away real fast.
I then headed to Wanchai. Stopped in to Makati to have a beer where I was accosted by a girl whom I previously had all night long for $1,000. Not being in a chatty mood, I headed to Laguna. Saw my 2 chinese friends, bought them beers, drank up and left.
Have fun, stay safe and watch your drinks!
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]For the newbies reading the reports below regarding the problems and confusion in the Wan Chai bar area and Fenwick types bars, are you starting to get the feeling Wan Chai is too much trouble to deal with? Add to this the tourist price for sex, which is way, way, way overpriced and you may conclude as I did many years ago, Wan Chai bar/sex outlets are a big waste of time.
Let's be clear about one fact, the Wan Chai bar scene is for sex tourist. Thus, the higher prices and rip-offs. Plus, many women see the men in these bars as targets. Why take a trip half way around the world to have trouble in a girlie bar....it is not worth it.
Also, another fact is the locals do NOT hang-out in the Wan Chai bars and there is a good reason for this. Which is, the local Chinese guys have known for years the Wn Chai bar area for girls is a rip-off. It always has been, and it always will be.
Ok, I am sure some guys will disagree with what I have written and that is fine. They love the bars there and are happy to pay HK$1,000 or more for ST. I mainly provide this information for the newbies who are trying to make an informed decision about where to spend their time.[/QUOTE]
This is what you posted on this site on 3/31/07
"I go to Hong Kong 2-3 times a year. Buying sex is ridiculously easy. I prefer to meet girls for short-term relationships so that every time I'm in town, I have some decent companionship.
What's the best way to find girls interested in real relationships and not selling sex? Are Wanchai bars good hunting grounds? or Lan Kwai Fong? And what are the protocols? "
So now you are the expert in HK mongering compared to myself (over 10yrs) and other long timers??
Sounds like you struck out massively in the 'not for sale' market which is a no brainer for long time expats who actually usually try to avoid that market due to the 'hassle factor' afterwards.
Wow, amazing to learn something new after reading this site for about a year. Anyone care to share the details of the "white women" clubs in Central? If not publicly, then via PM?
Couple points on the raging debate:
1) Personally don't like the Wan Chai scene much, but for me, it's more about preference on providers rather than the price. Generally not extremely fond of darkies, and it's not just about the skin tone. I personally find the physical features of Flippers, Indos, etc to be somewhat coarse. Of course, there are plenty of Chinese providers with equally unattractive features regardless of skin tone. In the end, I don't find the prices outrageous as has been mentioned, you can pay just as much (or more) in a KTV or sauna. The whole debate about whether it's "stupid" to partake in the Wan Chai offerings comes down to personal preference, and I find it sort of ridiculous to equate someone's personal preference to "stupidity"
2) 3k for KTV and not get anything? What KTV are you going to? The one HK KTV in East TST I've been to charged 500 per hour, so 3K equals 6 hours. That's an awful long time to do nothing. For 3k, you can spend 3hours flirting in the KTV (1. 5k) and then take the girl for a ST (1. 5k). The other KTV I've been to here (near Sun Hot Sauna on Hanoi Rd I think) was quite a bit cheaper, 500 for the whole evening (about 3 hours). Though the take out fee was 1. 5k, same as East TST. The most expensive KTV I've experienced was in Taiwan, which ran NT10k (HKD2. 5K) for 3 hours including booze, with no s*x included (extra NT8k, or HKD2k and you keep the girl until 4am). While expensive, the quality IMO beats anything that I've seen here in HK and is on par with the sauna girls at 18 over in Macau. Service levels (assuming that you speak Chinese) also exceed anything I've experienced anywhere.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]This is what you posted on this site on 3/31/07
"I go to Hong Kong 2-3 times a year. Buying sex is ridiculously easy. I prefer to meet girls for short-term relationships so that every time I'm in town, I have some decent companionship.
What's the best way to find girls interested in real relationships and not selling sex? Are Wanchai bars good hunting grounds? or Lan Kwai Fong? And what are the protocols? "
[/QUOTE]
Why dig up that quote? This discussion is on buying sex, not on finding a short-term relationship. I had said that, if only mongering is on your mind, going to Wanchai is a waste of money. Now, if we want to talk about finding a short-term relationship or if you enjoy flirting/socializing, Wanchai may be worth a look, especially if you're into Filipinas or cannot speak Cantonese.
The fact remains. If we only talk about pure sex, Wanchai is a time-consuming rip-off for Westerners lacking the balls to explore the less occidental parts of the city. Great...an American flies 20 hours to talk to girls at a bar or disco. How exotic. We all know bars and discos are rare in America. Kinda like travelling to Hong Kong to eat at McDonalds.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]So now you are the expert in HK mongering compared to myself (over 10yrs) and other long timers??
[/QUOTE]
Getting ripped off for over 10 years is hardly something to be proud of.
Yes, I consider myself to be an expert at HK mongering. You may have more experience on Lockhart Road and I may have more experience on Portland Street. People can be experts over different domains.
As I said earlier, I love it when you mislead newbies! Let's funnel all the tourists and ignoramuses there so they don't inflate prices at places where real bargain and quality hunters go. Per rules of this forum, I will not advertise a competing forum. But on this forum dedicated solely to Hong Kong mongering, where people truly know the ins and outs, there is hardly a mentioning of Wanchai.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]This is what you posted on this site on 3/31/07
"I go to Hong Kong 2-3 times a year. Buying sex is ridiculously easy. I prefer to meet girls for short-term relationships so that every time I'm in town, I have some decent companionship.
What's the best way to find girls interested in real relationships and not selling sex? Are Wanchai bars good hunting grounds? or Lan Kwai Fong? And what are the protocols? "
So now you are the expert in HK mongering compared to myself (over 10yrs) and other long timers??
Sounds like you struck out massively in the 'not for sale' market which is a no brainer for long time expats who actually usually try to avoid that market due to the 'hassle factor' afterwards.[/QUOTE]HK dog,
Wanchai is for tourist you don't see Hong konger go mongering there , most of them go to Macau,shenzhen or Dongguan on the weekend to play is just so much cheaper and quality of service is so much better ,if you want flipper go to manila .
Fast eddie 48
I was this time only for a one night stay in HK. Since I had to leave early in the morning and I stayed in Mongkok I decided to visit 37 Dundas.
After arriving around 7pm at dundas same procedure like always. They showed me 8 girls, I opted this time for a taller girl with short hair. Her name was Lu Ling. She said she's 22yo and from mainland china near Haian. Her English was okay thus we could talk a little bit.
We started after showering cleaning every part of our bodies with a short body massage. I brought some oil with me and asked Lu Ling to use it. First she didn't want, but after a short talk she did a short oil massage. During the massage she weared a t-shirt. While she started a BBBJ I couldn't resist and removed the t-shirt, stopped the BBBJ and started to massage her with a lot of oil. It was really amazing, because also Lu Ling enjoyed it very much. After 45 min she asked me for a break, went outside, came back after 1 min and told me that she arranged 2 additional hours for a special price. We went on with the massage and some DATY. I loved it, she was shaved and told me not to stop. Next step was BBBJ, but I wasn't able to hold a long time. So we made a break, then she started for another BBBJ. Usually I don't like that, but this time it was more than ok for me. Then great sex in different positions, she didn't moan, only biting her lips. Finally some hugs, a short rest.
At the end we had to shower and some problems because we missed soap. Next time I will bring oil and soap with me.
Overall damage: 600 HKD + 200 HKD tip.
Whomer
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[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]HK dog,
Wanchai is for tourist you don't see Hong konger go mongering there , most of them go to Macau,shenzhen or Dongguan on the weekend to play is just so much cheaper and quality of service is so much better ,if you want flipper go to manila .
Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]
I am sorry. Complete and utter bullshit. I would say 80% of single expat males spend at least one night a weekend there and 30% of married expat males.
Local Chinese mongerers don't go there because they don't like dark skinned girls for issues I highlighted many times.
Why the fuck would I fly to Manila? I want to do other things in my life and don't need to save up to the last Peso to get laid. I want to play golf etc etc and also fuck and also hang out with friends. Its called having a life. So I don't need to do 'cost per fuck' calculations. I can do all that here in HK.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend]As I said earlier, I love it when you mislead newbies! Let's funnel all the tourists and ignoramuses there so they don't inflate prices at places where real bargain and quality hunters go. Per rules of this forum, I will not advertise a competing forum. But on this forum dedicated solely to Hong Kong mongering, where people truly know the ins and outs, there is hardly a mentioning of Wanchai.[/QUOTE]
Ohhhh, you read s e x 1 4 1 forum. Wow I didn't know that!! That changes everything. You are a mongering god.
The point is only 6 months ago you were asking where the places are to go in HK. You even asked if Wan Chai is 'good mongering ground'. Now after your one trip you are Zeus on the mountaintop proclaiming your word as the word of god.
I put that quote of yours up there so that a real Newbie would completely discount what you have to say and listen to more experienced people.
There is also a reason why people prefer 141 and maybe you are in the class. Getting laid with a hottie, even if you are paying for it, is NOT a sure thing in Wan Chai. 141 they'll fuck you no matter how unattractive and unsociable you are. So maybe in one of your 2-3 visits in HK you couldn't get laid in Wan Chai and found soulace in the no rejection 141's.
I have alot to learn from you on more websites. Please tell me more.
Rick Hunter’s recent report where he mentions the nightclubs in East Tsim Tsa Tsui being some of the more expensive places in Hong Kong has caught my attention.
I searched through all the old posts and found Rick Hunter’s post (number 2831 on the 01/05/06). Firstly I would like to say what an excellent report. Here Rick mentions the night clubs “New Paris” and “China Club” where the 9/10 and 10/10 girls can be found.
I am very interested in visiting these kinds of clubs in my upcoming trip to Hong Kong on the odd night when I need a break from the Wanchai bar scene and also I would like to know about these places as an option for taking business clients.
I would like to know if there are any other new clubs or hot places in not only in East Tsim Tsa Tsui but all of HK offering these kinds of services with the all important “9” or “10” girls where you may need to pay a bit extra for the quality.
Any suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
[QUOTE=Neuromancer]Wow, amazing to learn something new after reading this site for about a year. Anyone care to share the details of the "white women" clubs in Central? If not publicly, then via PM?
[/QUOTE]
The club has been around for over 8 yrs. Without disclosing the name its near the top of Ice House Street. Its a 'members' only club (the only way they can get a licence) so you can't just walk in.
Trust me, don't bother. I know girls that work there and they laugh at the locals that show up there. Basically they get lap dance type entertainment and shell out loads of cash for nothing.
I like Wan Chai. Its great speaking english to the girls and flirting with them. And I don't mind what color their skin is or where they come from. I also like other places in HK but its hard to bond with the girls (141 for example) when they are fresh off the boat and can't even tell me their name? And I only speak like 100 words of Chinese. LOL.
Anyways
I was in Fenwicks about 3 weeks ago and around 12:30AM the DJ stopped and the lights turned on. I was like huh? Closing? WTF?
Then all these cops came in with dogs. And they pretty much lined up all the girls and started checking out their paperwork. And all of the girls pretty much remained calm. I only saw like 2 or 3 making a dash for the back door.
They even had the dogs going behind the bar around the bartenders sniffing the bottles and shit.
This hot thai girl I was with excused herself to the bathroom along with her G/F. I was thinking 1 of 2 things she had to hide. Drugs or to get/give some papers to some other girl.
I stood there talking to some other mongers and all in all it took 45 mins for them to leave. The lights went back off, DJ cranked up again and everyone cheered loudly. Finally got my girl to leave with me for 1500 LT. I didn't buy her any drinks. She actually bought me a Heineken which I thought to be really, really, really odd. Really odd. LOL.
When we were back in my room I asked her what drugs she was hiding. She asked me to guess. I said Special K. And she said I was right. LOL. Ketamine for those that don't know.
I didn't want any but told her she could do some in the room if she wanted and she did. She was way jacked up for about 25 minutes all dancing around to my music (naked). Her body was way tight. Ripped stomach. Very cute face. She was my first thai. She had a scar on her left shoulder that looked like some burn mark. I asked what that was from and she said all Thai people have it. I know this is stupid question but can someone explain to me.
Anyways she left around 1 pm the next day as I was checking out and heading to SZ. I was nice and actually just gave her 200USD as I was low on HKD. I guess that is near 1500 that we agreed upon.
I have one lame picture I took of her but will post it later anyways. But its not great.
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[QUOTE=Hk Dog]The club has been around for over 8 yrs. Without disclosing the name its near the top of Ice House Street. Its a 'members' only club (the only way they can get a licence) so you can't just walk in.
Trust me, don't bother. I know girls that work there and they laugh at the locals that show up there. Basically they get lap dance type entertainment and shell out loads of cash for nothing.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more, you get far better value in HK in Wanchai at Fenwicks, Neptunes or even the walk ups.
There are Colombian and Venezuelan girls in Fenwicks with blonde hair and large implanted boob jobs. They look European generally, although I can't profess to say they speak great English. You will find all you need there for 1500 if thats your bag.
[QUOTE=Neuromancer]Wow, amazing to learn something new after reading this site for about a year. Anyone care to share the details of the "white women" clubs in Central? If not publicly, then via PM?
[/QUOTE]
A member's only club. I hear lapdances cost about $300 to $400. Been around for years. Have heard that if you're dressed well and if its a slow night for them, they may let you in.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=King Leonidis]I would like to know if there are any other new clubs or hot places in not only in East Tsim Tsa Tsui but all of HK offering these kinds of services with the all important “9” or “10” girls where you may need to pay a bit extra for the quality.
Any suggestions or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
I think Rick will agree and if you are really after top talent then book one of the nightclub packages to Macau. The talent in Macau is far better than BBOSS or China City in HK and 1/2 the price. Just go to Macau Ferry Terminal and you will see the shops offering the package. Its only 1hr ferry.
[QUOTE=Jayson420]I like Wan Chai. Its great speaking english to the girls and flirting with them. And I don't mind what color their skin is or where they come from. I also like other places in HK but its hard to bond with the girls (141 for example) when they are fresh off the boat and can't even tell me their name? And I only speak like 100 words of Chinese. LOL.
Anyways
I was in Fenwicks about 3 weeks ago and around 12:30AM the DJ stopped and the lights turned on. I was like huh? Closing? WTF?
Then all these cops came in with dogs. And they pretty much lined up all the girls and started checking out their paperwork. And all of the girls pretty much remained calm. I only saw like 2 or 3 making a dash for the back door.
They even had the dogs going behind the bar around the bartenders sniffing the bottles and shit.
This hot thai girl I was with excused herself to the bathroom along with her G/F. I was thinking 1 of 2 things she had to hide. Drugs or to get/give some papers to some other girl.
I stood there talking to some other mongers and all in all it took 45 mins for them to leave. The lights went back off, DJ cranked up again and everyone cheered loudly. Finally got my girl to leave with me for 1500 LT. I didn't buy her any drinks. She actually bought me a Heineken which I thought to be really, really, really odd. Really odd. LOL.
When we were back in my room I asked her what drugs she was hiding. She asked me to guess. I said Special K. And she said I was right. LOL. Ketamine for those that don't know.
I didn't want any but told her she could do some in the room if she wanted and she did. She was way jacked up for about 25 minutes all dancing around to my music (naked). Her body was way tight. Ripped stomach. Very cute face. She was my first thai. She had a scar on her left shoulder that looked like some burn mark. I asked what that was from and she said all Thai people have it. I know this is stupid question but can someone explain to me.
Anyways she left around 1 pm the next day as I was checking out and heading to SZ. I was nice and actually just gave her 200USD as I was low on HKD. I guess that is near 1500 that we agreed upon.
I have one lame picture I took of her but will post it later anyways. But its not great.
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Great report Jay. I have had some good Thai and Filipina encounters at Fenwicks. Neptunes is also OK, depending on your luck I suppose. Lower prices I find. I also like Joe Bananas where some FLs hang out. Higher quality and hence higher priced than either of the places mentioned above.
[quote=hk dog]
i would say 80% of single expat males spend at least one night a weekend there and 30% of married expat males.
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lolol!!! do they publish this data in government publications? or did you pull it out of your ass (like most of your statements)? because i don't believe the census and statistics department conducts these kinds of surveys and i doubt you know everyone in the expat community well enough to quantify the mongering activities of an entire class.
the fact remains. westerners shouldn't be travelling half-way around the world to hang out at a westernized bar filled with westernized people!! have a sense of adventure and venture out, for god's sakes!! and not only that, but you'd be playing far higher than the market rate to monger. it's called being dumb and dumber.
perhaps you're just too chicken or unadventurous to venture beyond your comfort zone. but most tourists have more gonads and would want to experience something distinctly new, different and oriental in hong kong. americans can get bars, filipinos, date [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] drugs and overpriced sex at home. americans can't get brothels, saunas or 141s at home.
if you want value/quality mongering, listen to locals (who will steer you far from wanchai). if you want to fly 20 hours to experience the same things you'd find at home, wanchai is for you.
[quote=furryfriend]lolol!!! do they publish this data in government publications? or did you pull it out of your ass (like most of your statements)? because i don't believe the census and statistics department conducts these kinds of surveys and i doubt you know everyone in the expat community well enough to quantify the mongering activities of an entire class.
the fact remains. westerners shouldn't be travelling half-way around the world to hang out at a westernized bar filled with westernized people!! have a sense of adventure and venture out, for god's sakes!! and not only that, but you'd be playing far higher than the market rate to monger. it's called being dumb and dumber.
perhaps you're just too chicken or unadventurous to venture beyond your comfort zone. but most tourists have more gonads and would want to experience something distinctly new, different and oriental in hong kong. americans can get bars, filipinos, date [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] drugs and overpriced sex at home. americans can't get brothels, saunas or 141s at home.
if you want value/quality mongering, listen to locals (who will steer you far from wanchai). if you want to fly 20 hours to experience the same things you'd find at home, wanchai is for you.[/quote]
no offense ff, but to each his own. i have traveled to hong kong many many times. most of those trips involved a customer traveling with me or to meet customers that would arrive a day or two after me. i can truthfully tell you not a one wanted to go the route you are talking about. i am not saying that some guys here or that will visit in the future would not agree with you, but every single customer i was with always wanted the wan chai option.
i gave them the low down and this is what they preferred. about 15% did multiple trips for one business reason or another and they always returned to wan chai.
that said, where in the usa can you find all these young available filipino women? same as in hong kong...girls who actually want to be with a older male?
ff
had a fantastic evening at my favorite place tonight, hop yee. not your typical chinese, she's from dong bei but doesn't look it. average height (5'5" or so), darker complexion, coarse hair, long/skinny face, large eyes and full lips. not my usual type, but she sort of reminded me of an old friend who i had the hots for way back when. anyway, what made the session memorable was that she willingly dfk'd and wasn't rushed in the least bit. i popped quickly (it's been a while), but just kinda hung out chatting for a bit afterwards.
left the room eventually and things got sort of weird. was about to head down the stairs when i heard another girl calling out. turned around and it was a pseudo-regular from several months back. at the time she was on the 11th floor (i was on the 10th floor tonight). i had left a small bottle of vodka in her 11th floor room and when i noticed that it was gone, figured that she was gone too. turns out she simply took a few months off. was sort of awkward, chatting with her in the hallway after finishing up with the other girl. heard the first girl open her door momentarily to look out, though i was standing behind the column so didn't actually see her peer out.
[QUOTE=Jayson420]I have one lame picture I took of her but will post it later anyways. But its not great. [/QUOTE]Here is the only picture I snapped when she was stripping and dancing around. I could of probably took more but I was eager to jump up on the bed and start dancing too. She had sort of a bubble butt, but it was small and I could put the whole cheek in one of my hands. Pretty sweet.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend]The fact remains. Westerners shouldn't be travelling half-way around the world to hang out at a WESTERNIZED bar filled with WESTERNIZED people!! Have a sense of adventure and venture out, for God's sakes!! And not only that, but you'd be playing far higher than the market rate to monger. It's called being dumb and dumber.
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Keep on talking because you are only making more of a joke of yourself.
Where do you go mongering in Thailand? I hope you are not going near the WESTERNISED Nana Plaza, Patpong, Suana's and Massage joints, Discos etc that the Western people go to.
Do you think local Thai's go there?
No.
If you are talking about the Thai masses they go to places to get laid where they only pay maybe 100-200 Baht. Those places are AWEFUL and DEPRESSING!! My first experience in a Mongkok brothel is 1996 and I'd be shocked if they changed the mattress since. When was yours? The brothels have their purposes but to plan a weekend night around attending them is a sad case of lack of social skills in my opinion. They are wham bam joints for immediate relief. Not to make a night of it, especially for a long travelled newbie.
But I am waiting for you to tell us where we should be going to in Thailand (and tell us how many times you go to Thailand in a year since 2-3 times seems to be the amount to make someone an expert).
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Where do you go mongering in Thailand? I hope you are not going near the WESTERNISED Nana Plaza, Patpong, Suana's and Massage joints, Discos etc that the Western people go to.
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Thailand isn't comparable to Hong Kong because Thai bars/discos are the only places that are safe and tourist-friendly. They have terrorists, kidnappers, drug traffickers and AIDS epidemics in the less occidental areas where Thai locals monger. So you tolerate being in a Western environment in Thailand not by choice, but by necessity.
If most of Thailand is safe and tourist-friendly, like it is in Hong Kong, you'd be foolish flying 20 hours to hang out at a Western bar.
I'm not saying there is no purpose for Wanchai. Nothing wrong with socializing, dating or relationships. But this board is about SEX SEX SEX. Locals rightfully laugh when expats brag about paying "only" $800 to bang in Wanchai when, for $800, you can partake in an orgy in Kowloon. Why not have a sense of adventure and go over to Kowloon where it's equally safe, higher quality (fine, that's subjective) and far cheaper? There is no evidence to suggest that service is better with a Wanchai provider than, say, at 37 Dundas.
[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]
That said, where in the USA can you find all these young available Filipino women? [/quote]
Hey, I've said all along. If you're an expat and have a thing for Filipinas, that's the only scenario in which Wanchai mongering makes sense.
But most tourists don't fly to Hong Kong for Filipinos. If it's Filipinos they want, they'd go to the Phillipines instead. Most tourists don't fly to Hong Kong for Western Asian chicks. There are plenty of Asian-Americans in the U.S.
What do sex tourists want in Hong Kong? Most have yellow fever and want exotic fresh-off-the-boat Asians from mainland China, not Westernized people they can find at home.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend]Thailand isn't comparable to Hong Kong because Thai bars/discos are the only places that are safe and tourist-friendly. They have terrorists, kidnappers, drug traffickers and AIDS epidemics in the less occidental areas where Thai locals monger. So you tolerate being in a Western environment in Thailand not by choice, but by necessity.
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Do us a favor and shut up because your 2-3 times visiting HK proves you know SHIT about the region.
Find me ONE, just ONE report of a Westener EVER being kidnapped in Thailand. The Terrorists attacks occurred in WESTERN PUBS in Bali. Are you saying there isn't anyone with AIDS in the Western sex districts in Thailand?
What the fuck does drug trafficiking have to do with anything??
You are an IDIOT and anybody who listens to you deserves the consequences.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]The Terrorists attacks occurred in WESTERN PUBS in Bali. Are you saying there isn't anyone with AIDS in the Western sex districts in Thailand?
What the fuck does drug trafficiking have to do with anything??
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God, I seriously haven't owned someone on an internet forum this badly in a while. It's not even a challenge.
Only someone delusional would believe mongering in Thailand is as safe as mongering in Hong Kong. I am not saying Thailand is overall "dangerous", but it's clearly riskier than Hong Kong. And, again, this is why sex tourists to Thailand stick to Western bars and why sex tourists to Hong Kong need not take such measures.
From the US State Department's Travel Consular page
[url]http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1040.html[/url]
"[i]The State Department is concerned that there is an increased risk of terrorism....American citizens traveling to Thailand should therefore exercise caution...[/i]"
"[i]The Department of State advises all American citizens residing in or traveling to Bangkok to continue to monitor events closely, to avoid any large public gatherings, and to exercise discretion when moving about Bangkok...[/i]"
"[i]The far south of Thailand has been experiencing almost daily incidents of criminally and politically motivated violence, including incidents attributed to armed local separatist/extremist groups...[/i]"
"[i]Attacks in the area have increasingly been targeted against commercial areas where foreigners congregate...[/i]"
"[i]Thailand has been experiencing an epidemic of HIV infection and AIDS....and HIV is common among prostitutes...[/i]"
I can go and on. But my humanitarian nature does not permit me to humilate someone beyond a certain point.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Find me ONE, just ONE report of a Westener EVER being kidnapped in Thailand.[/QUOTE]
You lose. Again.
International Herald Tribune (April 13, 2007)
[url]http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/04/13/asia/AS-GEN-Thailand-US-Kidnapping.php[/url]
"[i]Thai police said Friday they rescued an American who had been kidnapped and held for ransom for five days by a gang that included at least three policemen.[/i]"
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Mongkok is Beruit compared to Wan Chai.[/QUOTE]
This comment proves what I've been asserting all along:
No wonder you stick to Wanchai. You're so chickenshit to go outside your Western comfort zone that you don't have the guts to cross the harbour. It isn't an issue of safety. If you read newspapers and this forum, you'll see there's far more focus on the dangers of mongering in Wanchai than in Mongkok.
So it's clearly not an issue of safety. What you're REALLY afraid of are all those people they call "the Chinese" with their weird language, appearances and customs. Damn, all those Chinese characters must make you feel threatened. All those local people act....so damn local. So you remain on an insular part of the island and advise Western tourist who fly 20 hours to monger in the same Western places and stick to the same Western people. I bet even the thought of sitting on the Star Ferry makes you cower in fear. There's a line between using reasonable discretion and being an outright coward. It's clear you've crossed the line.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]
I once again confidently proclaim that your are in fact an idiot of royal proportion.[/QUOTE]
Despite your proclaimation, you cannot even outdebate me. It's gotten to the point where I feel ashamed picking on the mentally handicap.
By the way, I just gotta repeat this one more time!!!!! Sorry for the repetition:
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Find me ONE, just ONE report of a Westener EVER being kidnapped in Thailand. [/QUOTE]
You lose. Again.
International Herald Tribune (April 13, 2007)
[url]http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/04/13/asia/AS-GEN-Thailand-US-Kidnapping.php[/url]
"[i]Thai police said Friday they rescued an American who had been kidnapped and held for ransom for five days by a gang that included at least three policemen.[/i]"
[QUOTE=Jayson420] She had a scar on her left shoulder that looked like some burn mark. I asked what that was from and she said all Thai people have it. I know this is stupid question but can someone explain to me. [/QUOTE]The scar is from a vaccine, I think its smallpox but I am not sure. I asked some questions about that vaccine (my ex-GF has that scar) and I was told that you can get it without that mark but then it costs more. In asia, they tend to use the cheaper version thus the "burn mark" which we don't have because we use the more expensive version of the vaccine.
I also dated a Russian woman and she had the same scar.
You may want to double-check this information, I am no health professional.
Thanks Furry Friend, my 10+ years of living out here and over 100+ visits to Thailand is just no match for your excellent 'Googling' skills. So lets put out a
WARNING- IF YOU ARE IN THE IMPORT EXPORT BUSINESS IN THAILAND AND SCREW YOUR BUSINESS PARTNER, DO NOT HAVE 400,000 USD LYING AROUND YOUR APARTMENT BECAUSE YOU ARE AT RISK TO KIDNAPPING. THIS CAN NEVER EVER HAPPEN IN HK (of course unless your business partner is Chinese and then you avoid kidnapping but get a bullet in the back of your head in Luk Yu Tea House in broad daylight)
I am sure we both have save alot of lives with this warning. You have so much to teach me about HK mongering. I am humbled and now just sitting here for you to correct my errs of the past decade from a unique individual whose 2-3 times a yr visits to HK and superior Googling skills is a worthy substitute to the overrated 'experience'.
[QUOTE=Pom001]The scar is from a vaccine, I think its smallpox but I am not sure. I asked some questions about that vaccine (my ex-GF has that scar) and I was told that you can get it without that mark but then it costs more. In asia, they tend to use the cheaper version thus the "burn mark" which we don't have because we use the more expensive version of the vaccine.
I also dated a Russian woman and she had the same scar.
You may want to double-check this information, I am no health professional.[/QUOTE]
You can use the scar from the smallpox vaccine to date the age of the person. At some time in the 1970s or 1980s the Smallpox vaccine was not longer administered globally due to its eradication in the wild.
However if the girl is younger than say about 25, the scar would not be smallpox.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend]
Hey, I've said all along. If you're an expat and have a thing for Filipinas, that's the only scenario in which Wanchai mongering makes sense.
But most tourists don't fly to Hong Kong for Filipinos. If it's Filipinos they want, they'd go to the Phillipines instead. Most tourists don't fly to Hong Kong for Western Asian chicks. There are plenty of Asian-Americans in the U.S.
What do sex tourists want in Hong Kong? Most have yellow fever and want exotic fresh-off-the-boat Asians from mainland China, not Westernized people they can find at home.[/QUOTE]
Here again "different strokes for different folks."
Most people do not fly to Hong Kong for sex period. They are there for business reasons and they are only seeking to satisfy their sexual urges while there. As stated in an earlier post, I found that all the business customers that I entertained in Hong Kong preferred a Filipina to any other selection available and I have spent more than you can imagine on the bars in Wan Chai and other places in Hong Kong. Nice company entertainment budget to spend on the customers.
Most of the time the trips with customers included a night or two in Mainland China where we would all enjoy a Karaoke night with the pleasures of mainland women. While it was always enjoyable and all had a good time, the customers could not wait to get back to Hong Kong to see some more Filipina's. Even a few who would go to Macau could not wait to get back to Wan Chai and some Filipina's
As I had an office with co-workers in Hong Kong I am not sure what you mean when referring to the westernized Asian women in Hong Kong. They are certainly more sophisticated then the bar girls or the girls you may meet in the Disco's or 141, but I would not describe the ladies located anywhere in Hong Kong as any thing even remotely close to westernized Asian women like you would find in USA.
What do you mean by westernized Asian Women? There is even a term in Hong Kong and really all of China I'm sure which is ABC ( American Born Chinese) or CBC or EBC or EBC again. I'm sure you can figure out the other acronyms.
FF
[QUOTE=Frequent Flier] As stated in an earlier post, I found that all the business customers that I entertained in Hong Kong preferred a Filipina to any other selection available and I have spent more than you can imagine on the bars in Wan Chai and other places in Hong Kong. Nice company entertainment budget to spend on the customers.
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You're 100% correct. Wanchai is great if you're into Filipinas or seeking a relationship. I've said that all along.
But if all you're looking for is sex (after all, this is World SEX forum), there is cheaper and easier mongering to be found elsewhere. Yes, lots of people go to Hong Kong on business. But many (dare I say "most"?) foreigners who are there come as a tourist. And if a tourist is looking for Filipinas, he should have booked for Manila instead. Most of the time, a tourist is there to experience something new and oriental, not Westernized bars with Westernized people.
If a monger wants to remain in Wanchai because he prefers Filipinas or is seeking a relationship, fine! But it defies reality for one to prefer Wanchai simply because Kowloon is dangerous or that Kowloon mongering is expensive.
[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]
What do you mean by westernized Asian Women?
FF[/QUOTE]
In Hong Kong, I consider "westernized Asian women" to be Filipinos. I do not consider Chinese locals, even foreign educated ones, to be "westernized Asian women". As a Chinese person, there are clear cultural differences between an ABC and a Filipino. The difference?
Filipinos in Hong Kong:
- Mostly speak English
- Religious, mostly Catholic
- Admires the West and Westerners
- Looking very hard to get married, preferably to a Westerner
- Culturally very similar (for example, celebrates same holidays as Westerners)
- Money and status not as important (being a maid isn't shameful, for example)
Chinese in Hong Kong (even foreign educated):
- Mostly speak Chinese (uses English as business necessity)
- Not religious or practice folk Buddism
- Have no special admiration about the West or Westerners
- Not more marriage minded than women elsewhere, prefers Asian men
- Culturally dissimmilar to the West (for example, celebrates Lunar New Year or Mid-autumn moon festival, etc). Also have certain superstititions unique to the Far East
- Money and status highly crucial
I know there are exceptions. But these characteristics fit about 80% of the time.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend]But if all you're looking for is sex (after all, this is International SEX forum), there is cheaper and easier mongering to be found elsewhere. Yes, lots of people go to Hong Kong on business. But many (dare I say "most"?) foreigners who are there come as a tourist. And if a tourist is looking for Filipinas, he should have booked for Manila instead. Most of the time, a tourist is there to experience something new and oriental, not Westernized bars with Westernized people.[/QUOTE]There is a major reason why this is the case and you just don't want to listen. I have been to those places you recommend many times. They are filthy, disgusting and depressing. I would NEVER recommend them to a Newbie in HK. To me the analogy in the US would be Wan Chai a high class escort, Mongkok a street walking crack *****.
But the major reason, and this may be controversial, is that Chinese women are the WORST sex providers in all of Asia. The are incredibly mechanical. If you ask any long time Expat resident in all the Asia countries to rank the sexual performance of each country I would be shocked if Chinese girls ever rank above the lower bottom 25% percentile.
In Thailand I can definentely recommend the massage parlours, go go's , disco's etc, because they don't have any of the negatives of the Monkok scene.
Again, you fail to answer why you don't frequent the brothels in Bangkok that the locals go to.
Also you are just not coming clean. Why didn't you have a good time in Wan Chai? There are 3 reasons I can think of
1) Girls didn't want to go home with you, or...
2) Girls would not charge you correct ST price since reason 1 was still in the back of their head, or...
3) 6-800 for ST is out of your budget
Which is it? (and btw there are Chinese girls in Wan Chai also)
I agree with HKDog!!!!!
The ongoing argument is a no brainer. The cheap wham bam places have minimal appeal to westerners flying to HK.
And the points being raised about Thailand ooze complete ignorance. Anyone who has been to Thailand before, should know that the threat of kidnapping is ridiculous. Total American propagander shite!!
Will be in Thailand on the 23rd this month. If I dont report back by the 3rd dec, please somebody call a search party!!
Sid
I have been reading this debate for the last few days but have avoided adding my two cents as it has been interesting to watch but feel I should chime in.
First it is inaccurate to say that Mong Kok is where the locals go. When I mention to some of my local friends that I on occasion go to Mong Kok to play around they first surprised and then usually tell me to be careful as it is all triad controlled. (Mong Kok is very safe but many Hong Kongers, like the Japanese are easily scared). I have asked before if they would like to come to one of the places there and the answer is resolute “NO!!!”. They much prefer the confines of East TST, Causewaybay or Macau. Most of my local friends fall are of a similar economic (or better) than most of us Expats (and by Expats I mean white western men – gweilos) and earn at least US$100,000 (and other than teachers not many Expats earn less than this). They tend not to like places like Wan Chai as it is not always the most friendly to Chinese unless they have someone like me taking them there.
The locals who tend to visit places in Mong Kok tend to be lower middle class or below. That is why the girls tend to be of lower quality than you can find elsewhere - there are diamonds in the rough though. While I would not go so far to say all the girls are like high class escorts in Wan Chai the example HKDog used of Mong Kok girls being like crack *****s and Wan Chai girls being like escorts is a good one. Most of the girls in Wan Chai I would not touch either but I have long since lost my “yellow fever” so the girl has to be rather nice for me to go with her.
As for pricing if you do Wan Chai correctly it is not that much more expensive. I will recount two stories I had from last week. Both took place with Wan Chai girls.
I mentioned on the boards that with the navy in town last Tuesday I did not feel like going to Wan Chai or making the trip across the harbor so I sent a text message to a lady I met in Wan Chai who is currently unemployed to see if she wanted to meet me. I had been with this girl a few times before and would spend around two hours with her and get 3 or 4 shots in. She gives a great massage, is 23 and has a killer body and a good face. Last time we were together we got talking about what she likes and she mentioned she had a boyfriend who used to tie her up. I have never done that sort of thing before but when we were text flirting on Tuesday I suggested she bring some stuff and I could tie her up. She seemed up for it but said she was not sure what she could find. I suggested we meet in Causewaybay when I finished work and I would take her shopping. When she got out of the MTR station and when we were walking down the street was when I realized what a head turner she was. I recalled a mall that I was in once by accident that had 3 or 4 sex shops in it and somehow we managed to find it. She was a bit shy but one of the lady staff helper her out and in the end she picked out some rope, handcuffs, blindfold and ankle cuffs.
We headed off to a short time hotel where we decided to spend three hours. We showered up together and then she lay on the bed and I blindfolded her, tied her arms up spread eagle and cuffed her ankles together. I then spent around half an hour playing with her – eating her out, using my fingers, tickling her, having her suck my cock, and then screwed her. Right before I was about to blow I took the condom off and shot my load into her mouth and on her face. This whole bondage thing was something new to me but she loved me being in control. Afterwards I let her out, she cleaned up and we talked for a bit and then we were ready to go again. Cuffed one arm to each ankle and we had some more fun. After that she gave me a great massage for a bit and then we had one more go. She even let me take some videos of what we were doing.
The only problem was after we got dressed and ready to leave I slipped her $500 into her purse and she stopped me and said that I am not that type of girl you know. That surprised me a bit because the very first time I flirted with her we ended up going to a hourly hotel and I thought it was going to be free seem to recall her asking for something. I have seen her 3 or 4 times since then and always gave her $500 to “help out with rent” while she was unemployed. I am worried that she might be starting to have feelings with me so I may have cut it off because I know that she is working part time until she gets a new office job and her occasional visits to Wan Chai is a sense of adventure for her plus she is unlikely to run into people she knows. For $500 not a bad experience although for furryfriend I likely spent too much in Wan Chai. I did spend about $500 on the gear and $370 for the 3 hours in the hotel but it was a new experience. I gave her the gear to as I normally call her when I am at work and doubt I should keep that sort of stuff around the office so she could bring it if we ever wanted it again.
My second experience in Wan Chai last week was I was having a rather boring Friday night in Lan Kwai Fong. Shortly after 10 I decided to bail and headed off to Wan Chai. I was very dressed up as I had some important meetings that day and do not normally like to go to Wan Chai wearing rather fancy business attire. The is a smoking 21 year old flipper who I taught how to freelance who was making her maiden freelance trip to HK after having come with an agent twice before. I had not seen her in the little over two weeks she had been here as I have been busy but thought she might be at New Makhati (she has 3 or 4 regulars so she can be hard to find sometimes) so I thought I would stop there on the way home. When I arrived she was out on the dance floor with some other guy but as soon as she saw me her face lit up. I went to the bar to grab a beer and no sooner had I got it then she had left the other guy and ran over to me and stuck her tongue as far down my throat as she could. I have to say it is a rather nice feeling when you walk into a bar and the hottest girl is running over to see you because she is so happy you are there. We hung out for around 40 minutes in the bar and I bought her a $65 ladies drink and then we retired to a short time hotel for 2 hours. She washed me up and we screwed twice. The girl still needs a little assistance in the experience area but she is getting better. I did think of this forum once when I was looking up at this 21 year old girl with smooth skin, really nice breasts and long black hair down past them and thinking yeah Wan Chai really sucks. After our two hours was up I gave her $800 like I normally do (yeah it might be a little high but this girl would be an 8.5/9 even back in Manila).
I think based on the two experiences listed above one would be hard pressed to say that Wan Chai is over priced compared with Mong Kok based on how much time and the number of shots with each of the girls. One is more likely to have girls negotiate a rate that is too high in Wan Chai but if you know how to play the field and ignore the ugly girls it can be a great place and not that much more expensive than Mong Kok. An usually the girls are less mechanical.
There are a number of places in the Jordan to Sham Shui Po corridor that are quite good as well that I would recommend people to. They tend to be more run down then elsewhere in Hong Kong. Not everything is “cheap” in absolute terms in Mong Kok such as the nightclubs but they are “cheap” compared to East TST. I have also met good ladies in both areas of town.
I would generally agree with HKDog that compared to other nationalities many Chinese providers are rather mechanical but the lady who has been the best lay of my life works in that corridor and I have followed her around to a number of places (where I am usually the only expat customer they ever get). She is around 33-35 but still has a really petite and in shape body and really is the best lay I have ever had. Although when I visit her in a sauna we usually spend the whole 90 minutes screwing a couple times and do not do much massaging. It is a little weird though because she tells me about her husband and kid and sometimes I get text messages from her asking for help with her kid’s English homework. For a price check it currently costs me $588 when I see her for 90 minutes in Mong Kok.
That would make for a much better discussion topic then whether Mong Kok or Wan Chai is better which nationalities on average tend to be best. I think you might even need to split it out between providers in HK and in their home countries. I will take the first shot:
Indonesian>Thai>Flippers>Vietnamese>Chinese>Hong Kongers>Korean>Japanese
I realize it is likely odd to see Indonesians at the front of the list. It can be very very difficult to find a pretty Indonesian girl but the ones I have tended to be fairly wild in the sack.
PS. Sidthesexist if you are not back from the LoS by early December I will come and look for you although I can not promise that I will not get sidetracked or kidnapped by some beautiful bargirl
[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]I have been reading this debate for the last few days but have avoided adding my two cents as it has been interesting to watch but feel I should chime in.....[/QUOTE]
Rick, you put it very well, nothing more to add, except that I think you forgot the Mongolians in your list (Unfortunately not may available in HK nowadays).
[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]
Indonesian>Thai>Flippers>Vietnamese>Chinese>Hong Kongers>Korean>Japanese
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For me
Indonesian>Thai>Flippers>Korean>Vietnamese>Japanese>Chinese>Hong Kongers
Again we should emphasize this is not the same as the list of looks. I have yet to meet and Indo that doens't have one thing seriously wrong with her (i.e her teeth, smell, looks, shape etc) but in terms of performance and effort they go the extra mile.
Ok, so curiosity has gotten the better of me. Guess nobody will really care, but figured that I made the effort to dig up the info, so what the heck. Maybe someone will TOFTT and report back. I'll report if they let me in. Not sure if I'll need to dig up a tie.
I realize that the 2nd website link is more of an "artistic" venture, but judging by the small sampling of photos, the level of talent doesn't seem terribly promising. Wonder what the artist/photographer would think of her website being linked to on ISG.
Courtesy of geoexpat:
[url]http://www.geoexpat.com/forum/good-strip-clubs-t19348p8.html[/url]
Goodfellows
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24-30 Ice House Street,
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[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]I have been reading this debate for the last few days but have avoided adding my two cents as it has been interesting to watch but feel I should chime in.[/QUOTE]I agree. And I guess I should explain why being someone when in Hong Kong will go to the Wan Chai bars. I have also read most of the current posts on the Wan Chai scene and I came the the conclusion that most guys go there for what they think are off duty maids. There may be a few maids going there on Sundays. But she would have to be very new to HK to still be a maid being so good looking at some of the guys here rave about. IMHO most of the girls working the Wan Chai bars are pro's. They may tell some guy they are a maid. But if you want to see what a real maid looks walk around the parks in Central on a Sunday. THOSE are maids.
So I guess I should explain why I go to the Wan Chai bars when I understand there are so many other places for P4P action in HK. I myself love the 141 scene. That makes HK special compared to MNL or BKK. I don't go to the Wan Chai bars for Flippers or Thai. I would just go to MNL/AC or BKK/Pattaya for that. So anyone flying 20 hours from the US and NOT going to those places for some Asian ass must be stupid. But HK is one of the shortest flights between the East Coast of the US (Newark) and Asia. Only around 15 hours in the air. So it makes sense to get that part of the travel out of the way before going on to other parts of Asia.
But while in HK the only reason I go to the Wan Chai bars if for the amazing quality Vitamin C (coke). It definitely is not some big secret of what is going on in some of those bars. But never seems to be mentioned here. So maybe that is one of the other big reasons why so many guys go there but just don't come out and say it.
As for mongering. 40 min train ride to Shenzhen is defiantly more fun and easy to get Vitamin K (ket). And for over all quality (who cares about the price) the Sauna's of Macau is #1. It just sucks they don't all sell alcohol.
So a good trip for me is a few days of mongering plus all the party favors in HK (Vitamin C), a few days in Shenzhen (Vitamin K) and a few days in Macau just recovering (like a rehab). Then off to some other place in Asia!
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Any more info on this address? Is it 37AA or 37BB or...?
I was cruising Jordan tonight and couldn't find 37 because there are several blocks with that number. Any other reports of this place? I'm happy to oblige if anyone knows the building number!
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]FYI, if you want to see what a few of the girls look like at 8 Mong Kok, go to s_x141 and click on Mong Kok area. Then click on "Phone Appointment." The girls listed that are 24 hours for 360 with a phone numbers of 9585-8416 and 6851-8959 are 8 Mong kok girls. The phone number for the actual location is 8100-5341. Sometimes on the site lots are listed, sometimes on 1 or 2 are listed.
8 Mong Kok also has a sister location at 37 Jordan, 7th Floor, Room D. Price is 400. The girls here a better looking then the ones at 8 Mong Kok.[/QUOTE]
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But while in HK the only reason I go to the Wan Chai bars if for the amazing quality Vitamin C (coke). It definitely is not some big secret of what is going on in some of those bars. But never seems to be mentioned here. So maybe that is one of the other big reasons why so many guys go there but just don't come out and say it.
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I don't think that is why most of the guys go to Wan Chai. Most of the expats out here I know are not really into the drug scene - some yes, but not most. If one is TST or Mong Kok would be a better place to buy or even in Lan Kwai Fong.
There are a few places in Wan Chai that are more known for selling drugs. I would say it reached its peak about a year ago before the cops really cleared out the Colombian girls. Fenwicks, in particular is know for drugs and that among many reasons is why it is one of my least favorite place to go. One Sunday in early summer about a dozen Indonesian maids were arrested in and around Neptune for dealing.
If you know who owns which bar you can pretty much tell which places have more dealing going on.
Recall the two businessmen from overseas that died in their hotel two weeks ago had not been drugged and robbed by bargirls as originally thought but died of some bad/overdosed on Heroin they bought in Wan Chai.
I have never understood the whole drug thing - it seems like a dumb way to screw your life up but each to his own I guess.
[QUOTE=WebConexxion]I have also read most of the current posts on the Wan Chai scene and I came the the conclusion that most guys go there for what they think are off duty maids. There may be a few maids going there on Sundays. But she would have to be very new to HK to still be a maid being so good looking at some of the guys here rave about. IMHO most of the girls working the Wan Chai bars are pro's. They may tell some guy they are a maid. But if you want to see what a real maid looks walk around the parks in Central on a Sunday. THOSE are maids.[/QUOTE]Dude I am gonna half to call BullshiT on you here.
I picked up a hot Indo maid in New Makati about a few months ago and also posted about it. I have seen her 4 times since. And the great thing is when I do see her she has to be home by 10 (curfew) so I can go out to get a second shot somewhere else.
I have pictures I can send to you WebCon to prove that she is hot. She was the hottest in the club when I pulled her out. She sneaks away from her other friends in Victoria parks on Sunday to go dancing by herself.
Some of the pics I have of her other Indo maid friends shows they are ugly. But there are a few diamonds out there. Trust me.
[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]I don't think that is why most of the guys go to Wan Chai. Most of the expats out here I know are not really into the drug scene - some yes, but not most. If one is TST or Mong Kok would be a better place to buy or even in Lan Kwai Fong.
There are a few places in Wan Chai that are more known for selling drugs. I would say it reached its peak about a year ago before the cops really cleared out the Colombian girls. Fenwicks, in particular is know for drugs and that among many reasons is why it is one of my least favorite place to go.
If you know who owns which bar you can pretty much tell which places have more dealing going on.
I have never understood the whole drug thing - it seems like a dumb way to screw your life up but each to his own I guess.[/QUOTE]Exactly. The expats you know are not into the drug scene. But what about all the expats you don't know. Since that is not your thing, there is little chance you will ever meet those type.
Some of the Wan Chai bars is an easy place to score some pretty good quality, and for a person who does'nt live in HK I feel more confortable buying there than at the Chungking Mansions. It is simple: Ask any girl from the same country that is the biggest supplier of it and with in 3 mins some guy from the same county walks up to you and hands you what ever you want. You pay him, and that is it. Of course don't make it SUPER obvious. But it does'nt feel sketchy.
I agree for some people it screws up their life big time.
[QUOTE=Jayson420]Dude I am gonna half to call BullshiT on you here.
I picked up a hot Indo maid in New Makati about a few months ago and also posted about it. I have seen her 4 times since. And the great thing is when I do see her she has to be home by 10 (curfew) so I can go out to get a second shot somewhere else.
I have pictures I can send to you WebCon to prove that she is hot. She was the hottest in the club when I pulled her out. She sneaks away from her other friends in Victoria parks on Sunday to go dancing by herself.
Some of the pics I have of her other Indo maid friends shows they are ugly. But there are a few diamonds out there. Trust me.[/QUOTE]My point is that if she was hot... she wouldn't be a maid for long. Some guy would take her out of that life and make her his wife or at least girlfriend. Being a maid is hard work for very little money. If she was hot she would just be a full time pro.
But I would love to see some pictures and be proved wrong. Of course everyone has a different view of what beauty is. I can also send you tons of pictures of some of the girls I have the pleasure to be with. PM me your info.
My idea of beauty is what you see in Sauna18 / Rio in Macau as an example.
[QUOTE=Jayson420]Dude I am gonna half to call BullshiT on you here.
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The guy was half right. Very rare to find 'maids' on any day besides Sunday, unless they just had their contract broken. The part he is wrong is when he says 'few maids on Sunday'. Sunday before 8pm I would say 95% of the girls are real working maids.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog] The part he is wrong is when he says 'few maids on Sunday'. Sunday before 8pm I would say 95% of the girls are real working maids. [/QUOTE]Ok Ok. And how many of those 95 percent are. Hot. Stunners. Could work at 18Sauna?
In my mind, Maids are the woman who are sitting all over Victoria parks on Sunday. (God Bless them and their hard working ethics) Sad to say they weren't bless with the looks of a beauty queen of long ago someone would have saved them from the hard life of a maid.
I guess we all have to agree on is what we all consider beautiful. I read in a lot of these reports how guys picked up a HOT maid on Sunday. I have a hard time using the word HOT and MAID together in one sentence. If a guy is into fu*king maids. Ok fine. To each his own. But no need to say she was HOT when you already said she was maid.
On another note. I have fu*ked a few of my maids. But they where hand picked straight from the province. Cute as they come. I went with the recruiter to the province to pick them. I thought it was a great idea at first. But how was I wrong in so many ways. All the problems it caused and money I had to pay to get out of a problem that could have been a lot worse. I guess that is another story on it's own.
[QUOTE=WebConexxion]Ok Ok. And how many of those 95 percent are. Hot. Stunners. Could work at 18Sauna?
In my mind, Maids are the woman who are sitting all over Victoria parks on Sunday. (God Bless them and their hard working ethics) Sad to say they weren't bless with the looks of a beauty queen of long ago someone would have saved them from the hard life of a maid.
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What the hell kind of a definition is that?? And that is NOT what you wrote. You said they were 'Pro's'.
95% of the girls in Wan Chai on Sunday before 8pm are employed as domestic helpers in HK.
I am not a big Sunday fan but out of those 95% maybe 3% are hot. But they are being chased by many men. Maybe you just don't have what it takes to score with one of the 3%. I am very particular about my women and over the years there have been stunners who I fucked that are real maids. Others I am sure have had more stories than myself since I don't make it my scene but I know its there if I want it.
The fact that you have to go to the provinces to pick a girl that will fuck you shows your inability to get laid in a competitive market.
However to dismiss any 'Sunday' girl as ugly just because they are maids can only come from ignorance. My old flipper gf years ago was a maid who won many beauty contests (her sister was a model) and many of her friends were incredible hotties. Nowadays the hotties are the Indo's.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]What the hell kind of a definition is that?? And that is NOT what you wrote. You said they were 'Pro's'.
95% of the girls in Wan Chai on Sunday before 8pm are employed as domestic helpers in HK.
I am not a big Sunday fan but out of those 95% maybe 3% are hot. But they are being chased by many men. Maybe you just don't have what it takes to score with one of the 3%. I am very particular about my women and over the years there have been stunners who I fucked that are real maids. Others I am sure have had more stories than myself since I don't make it my scene but I know its there if I want it.
The fact that you have to go to the provinces to pick a girl that will fuck you shows your inability to get laid in a competitive market.
However to dismiss any 'Sunday' girl as ugly just because they are maids can only come from ignorance. My old flipper gf years ago was a maid who won many beauty contests (her sister was a model) and many of her friends were incredible hotties. Nowadays the hotties are the Indo's.[/QUOTE]LOL. I guess I'll have to remember to avoid taking the opposite side of any argument HK Dog is on. Otherwise, he's gonna challenge my ability to get laid in a competitive market.
Seriously though, it's seeing all those maids flocking together on Sundays which has got me so turned off to flippers in general. Yes, I know that the maids are not representative of the flipper population and I'm sure that there are TONS of attractive ones out there, but the image of those Sunday maids painting/clipping each others toenails, picking lice out of each others hair (ok, I'm probably exaggerating on this one) in public sort of just wrecks the mood for me.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]
However to dismiss any 'Sunday' girl as ugly just because they are maids can only come from ignorance. My old flipper gf years ago was a maid who won many beauty contests (her sister was a model) and many of her friends were incredible hotties. Nowadays the hotties are the Indo's.[/QUOTE]
The arguement about whether there are any hot maids has been had before. Those of here for a while think a small percentage of maids are hot, those through town briefly think a higher percentage are hot. Given there are 250,000 women who work as maids in HK some of them have to be hot. If only 1-5% are that is still 2,500 to 12,500 women.
I do agree with you that basically all the hot maids are Indonesian. As the overseas worker program has gotten more developed in the philippines most of the hot ladies take jobs in the west or korea that pay far more then they make as helpers here (US$440 per month). Ladies working in factories in Korea make US$1,000 per month and I was recently asked (and I declined) to help a lady pay her agency fee so she could make US$3,000 per month working in Denmark as a fish gutter.
Indo's do not have the same economic options so coming to HK is extremely attractive to them. Unfortunately Indo women are not as blessed with looks as most other women so good looking ones are fewer between.
As for 18Sauna being the definition of hotness I am not sure that I agree with that. They do have nice ladies but most have had a lot of work done. As for the Indo's who work at 18Sauna most of them are fun but I would only say a couple of them are hot (although they can be fun to hang out with after they finish their work).
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]What the hell kind of a definition is that?? And that is NOT what you wrote. You said they were 'Pro's'.
Maybe you just don't have what it takes to score with one of the 3%.
The fact that you have to go to the provinces to pick a girl that will fuck you shows your inability to get laid in a competitive market.
However to dismiss any 'Sunday' girl as ugly just because they are maids can only come from ignorance. My old flipper gf years ago was a maid[/QUOTE]Yeah I also believe that the really hot girls are telling some guys they are maids when in reality they are working girls. Maybe they used to be a maid but found it more profitable to be a pro. But the guys eat it up and think they fu*ked a "nice" girl who was just out to have a good time.
What does it take to score with those 3 percent? Money I have. A nice smile I have. Well spoken I am. Dressed nice I am. What else do I need? LOL
I said I went to the province to find my maids to make sure they where good looking. But I found out later that was a big mistake.
The keyword is "USED" to be a maid. You confirmed it that hot girls only stay a maid for a very short time.
[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]Those of here for a while think a small percentage of maids are hot, those through town briefly think a higher percentage are hot.
As for 18Sauna being the definition of hotness I am not sure that I agree with that. They do have nice ladies but most have had a lot of work done. [/QUOTE]Yeah that is true. Maybe the maids are hotter than the average girl from where those guys are from that are just passing through.
Yeah some for sure have had work done. But I doubt they are working part time as maids to be able to afford the cosmetics. Some are natural beauties. There are so many of them there is alwasys some stunners in the line up.
Just back from Hop Yee. Tried finding one of the two options I wanted to hook with tonight (see previous post). Both were not working tonight (it's Thu, should be prime time for business! ). Oh well, so started ringing doorbells. On the 7th floor there was a room with three girls just hanging out.
Turns out that the short one with big atss rack remembered me. For the life of me, I couldn't remember doing her. She had a decent amount of the basic details on me so figured that my memory is fading in my old age. In the room, she showed me a big red birthmark on her left breast. Ok, the memory is jogged a little. Did the dead and we were just chatting afterwards. I was still trying to remember doing her in the past. And then she mentioned that I had promised to revisit her just after CNY with a hong bao. Funny how the strangest things trigger your memory. I guess that anytime a girl is asking for more money, that the memory sticks in my head.
[QUOTE=WebConexxion]What does it take to score with those 3 percent? Money I have. A nice smile I have. Well spoken I am. Dressed nice I am. What else do I need? LOL[/QUOTE]Hmmm. Good looking and a nice guy. Oh and being a good dancer REALLY helps as thats were most of the hot ones hang out.
My indo girl sneaks off from her {ugly} friends in victoria park on sundays to go dance by herself. Thats when I plucked her out.
And she also told me that her old family she used to work for would not renew her contract after her one year was up because the mother of the family was jealous of her looks and was afraid the father was going to try and fuck her. Well she put it a little more nicely. But I got the point. LOL
[QUOTE=Neuromancer]Did the dead and we were just chatting afterwards. [/QUOTE]Cool. There is now necrophilia, offered in HK. Good to know if I ever get feel the need. But that must have been an interesting chat after. Joke Joke Joke.
[QUOTE=Jayson420]And she also told me that her old family she used to work for would not renew her contract after her one year was up because the mother of the family was jealous of her looks and was afraid the father was going to try and fuck her. Well she put it a little more nicely. But I got the point. LOL[/QUOTE]
I had a similar story last year except the wife stopped paying the poor girl and illegally cancelled her contract. I had the Indo girl go to the Labour Tribunal and the wife got a significant fine!
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]I had a similar story last year except the wife stopped paying the poor girl and illegally cancelled her contract. I had the Indo girl go to the Labour Tribunal and the wife got a significant fine![/QUOTE]
Good for you. I have helped more then one domestic helper get all that was legally coming to her and her employer repremanded. It is amazing some of the crap that these ladies think they have to put up with. I get after a lot of my staff at work when I hear stories about their DH's and ask them how would they like it if I treated them the same way. They tend to get rather sheepish after that.
[QUOTE=WebConexxion]Cool. There is now necrophilia, offered in HK. Good to know if I ever get feel the need. But that must have been an interesting chat after. Joke Joke Joke. [/QUOTE]Sorry 'bout the typo. Not really into necrophilia. Though now that you mention it. Ehh. Forget it.
If you're into necrophilia. Why not just do it with a life-like doll. Equally un-responsive. If that's what you're into.
Not really into the dead fish
Sorry guys, but have been a lurker for a while, RTFF on HK and Wanchai in advance of my first visit. My first time to HK and went to Neptunes and then Fenwicks, and decided that Neptunes had a better quality group that night.
My friend met a Thai girl who was very nice and classy, and she promised to introduce her friend to me, but in the meantime I met a Filipino gal (and her friend)up at the bar. Great body, nice face, great dancer. In hindsight, they were ordering "doubles" from the bartenders, and never thought twice about it.
The Thai girl's friend finally came and was introduced, and looked very hot, but since I was already occupied with the 2-filipino's girls, she left.
To make a long story short, had a good time, slow-dancing, fast-dancing, coochy-koo at the bar, but when suggested further activities back at my hotel, she said that she was tired, blah-blah-blah. Not much to show for a couple hours.
While for an old guy, I was pretty beat anyways, and didn;t feel like making another round (already 3am) but the total scene there is quite impressive, but guess I didn't see that she was just pushing drinks. After searching forum I guess it happens, but while YMMV I guess it kinda blind-sided me.
Most of the bartenders (female ones looked filipino) must be in on the deal, but while I thought I had a good thing going, I guess I will have to be more of a skeptic in future.
In any case, it's off to Macau tomo, and then back to HKG for a couple days before going home. I will definitely go back to Neptunes, spend some more cash, and maybe look for the Thai girls. In any case, I might stay away from the girls sitting at the bar.
There's probably an easy way to spot the drink-pushers, and I'll have my radar out next time.
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My previous visits to 37D have always been to the establishment on the first floor. Yesterday, out of curiosity, I went up the extra flight of stairs to the place on the second floor.
I’m glad I did!
There are some differences between the first and second floor options. First off, three girls were brought to me individually, briefly introduced by the mama and then I spent a few minutes alone with each one in the KTV room. This gave ample opportunity to “check the goods” and get an indication of attitude. When number three had been and gone, the Mama came back and we discussed the ladies and I made my choice. The girls were pretty much the same "quality" as found downstairs and I chose Helen, who from the warm up I had found to have a nice, bra-less rack.
The second difference was the price, HK$340 and $80 for the hotel, which as you are no doubt aware, is around $70 less than the first floor place. Another small difference was that I had to pay the hotel and the mama separately.
The usual hand holding up the stairs followed to the short time place on the fourth floor. IMHO, the room was better than the ones on the third floor I had been to in the past. When “checking in” it was a bit odd to see the daughter of the woman who ran the place doing her homework!
In the room, Helen did not disappoint. Usual, highly pleasurable interactive shower with BBBJ, one day I just know I am not going to make it to the bed! This girl had a cracking figure, unusually for a Chinese lady her bum was a peach and as good as anything I’ve seen, perfectly presented in a thong – again unusual for Chinese. Her rack was no disappointment either; this girl is made for photography but sadly …no camera with me. Incidentally, has any one been able to take photographs in 37D?
We established anal was not on the menu and I let her get to work. Usual great service, rimming etc. I came whilst enjoying being deep throated. At the time, she was kneeling and I was watching her in the mirror with her lovely arse and perfectly framed pussy accentuated by her arched back.
Both number one and number two mama welcomed be back like a long lost friend, asking me about the service and if I would be back. Which was great and yes, I will, also spied a very foxy looking girl in there.
Do not know if I was lucky on the second floor or if my experience was normal for there but I do intend to find out on a return visit. Long live competition, I thought they were genuinely trying to please. In addition, if I remember to take my camera and Helen is free I might get lucky and have few souvenirs to share with you.
For those new to HK, the location of Dundas is well documented and mapped and there a number of reports to cross reference.
Allo allo,
First of all, thanks all for the great info
Will be visiting Hong Kong for the first time and find the discussion here very very helpful
Book my ticket and hotel. Will be staying in kowloon. I'll be coming from seoul. Going to be staying for 4 nights
Will definitely check 37 dundas, 8 mongkok and will venture to wanchai. But I do have reservation about wanchai (next post)
A note to newbies, anyone wanting to go to Hong Kong: please rtf, I read the last 2 months worth, lots of helpful info, even the arguments, though I felt at time it went too personal when it needn't be, we all have different view and opinion, let's respect that
I do have a general travel question to all veteran travelers:
Where would generally be the best place to do money exchange? (as in getting the best rate)
- bank (doubt it), airport (arriving or departing), money exchange places?
Advise, suggestion greatly appreciated
Very looking forward to my trip to HK.
Hi,
Been reading the posts for the last couple of months. Had troubles deciding between staying in kowloon or wan chai. But then decided to opt for kowloon since I want to do some shopping (walking distance to hotel) as well. And I want to 'experience' Hong Kong.
But I will venture out to wan chai and check out the scene there. Perhap say Hi to a few of you
I do have a question about wan chai; a few post hinted at wan chai being racist. I'm assuming toward Chinese?
Can someone elaborate a bit more? Why do you feel this way.
I, myself, am asian. Chinese, though I'm not overly Chinese.- I've been mistaken for every asian race there is
Even if the reports of racism in wanchai is true, I will most likely check out wan chai still but it'll be nice to know what to expect, I kinda like to know a bit of what I'm getting myself into
And if anyone want to meet up and have a drink, that'll be cool.
[QUOTE=Sketcha]I, myself, am asian. Chinese, though I'm not overly Chinese.- I've been mistaken for every asian race there is
Even if the reports of racism in wanchai is true, I will most likely check out wan chai still but it'll be nice to know what to expect, I kinda like to know a bit of what I'm getting myself into
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Perhaps the racism has been overblown. If your native tongue is English (as I am guessing you are) then you will fare better. The girls in Wan Chai all speak some English very rarely cantonese/mandarin which is why the cold shoulder may be given. Just 'charm' the bouncers and you should have no problem.
[QUOTE=Sketcha]Allo allo,
......
I do have a general travel question to all veteran travelers:
Where would generally be the best place to do money exchange? (as in getting the best rate)
- bank (doubt it), airport (arriving or departing), money exchange places?
Advise, suggestion greatly appreciated[/QUOTE]I am not sure why you want to exchange money! You can use your ATM card and get money from thousands of ATM machines throughout HK and even with ATM charges by some banks, you still will get the best rate AND you don't have to carry money from your own country. But if you have to, I have noticed that the worst rate is offered at the airport. Banks in town probably have good exchange rate but the waiting time at banks in HK is horrible. The rate at money exchange places vary depending on what neighbourhood you are doing the exchange and how close they are to touristy areas. There was a few messages way back regarding this issue:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=647701&postcount=997[/url]
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Have fun and stay safe,
W
Guys,
Sundays between 3pm and 8-9pm in wan chai is definately maid's day. Laguna, New Makati, Boracay, Neptunes, Fenwicks (Laguna and New makati are heaving). I would say the vast majority are maids. A few what I refer to as Semi-pros (maids out for additional cash).
How beautiful they are. How long is a piece of string? It is to each their own. The only drama is when you pick, it is easy to get a butterfly reputation. Also, from what I have seen, there seem to be quite a few that are a few sandwiches short of a picnic basket (as in a bit loco).
Guys have fun, the only thing I am curious about is. Who the hell has the time to go to the "provinces" to go get your maid? You get a maid to cook and clean and be honest (you hope) around your house. I personally like the older ones who make my home sparkling clean and give me that motherly reminder to pick up my own condom wrappers before she comes over.
By the way, Sunday has an all day happy hour at the bridge for ladies so once you find a nice girl at one of your other locations you can bring her over to the bridge and have her drink for free and you can have a chat up in a more relaxed atmosphere.
Take care guys. I personally don't care who of you can cmpete or not compete for girls or where the hell you get your maid or how you make your woodchuck squeal. Let's just have a good time of it.
Cheers,
Twisted
PS I have been out of the game for a little bit, that's why you guys may have more girls to pick from now ;)
[QUOTE=Wanderex]I am not sure why you want to exchange money! You can use your ATM card and get money from thousands of ATM machines[/QUOTE]
Not everyone uses ATM cards or wants to use one. People like me use hard cash or travelers checks (which I get for free and only use in Japan for a 1 yen differential) and adore playing with monopoly money. I have done big studying for exchange areas in Hong Kong and find the NGAU KEE MONEY CHANGER CO., LTD at 1 Cleverly Street on Hong Kong Island gives the absolute best rate, cash-for-cash. The difference is in the 10th of a percentage point range. Example if the HKD is 7.75 to the USD, they will be 7.72 selling at 7.76. The ~.03 difference I could care less about. They are only opened M-S 9-5, closed Sunday. They are next to about 4 other competitors on the same street and I noticed if you keep going down the street, the rates get more in your favour. A real laugh.
There's another good one near where the old HMV used to be in TST too, turn left towards the bay, if coming from Nathan Road (the street is Hankow Rd, I believe). I can't remember their name, off hand. It shows all the currencies on an electric board. Best rates, to me, for Kowloon. They are also only opened during business hours.
The banks give great rates too, but charge a service fee like 10 HKD. So tell them to go to hell. And to save HKD, just take the A-12 bus rather than the Airport Express train to and from the airport. I'm still trying to figure out what bus to take from Tung Chung station to the airport (different train, same track, ridiculously cheaper), anyone know?
Gyaos.
[QUOTE=Gyaos]I'm still trying to figure out what bus to take from Tung Chung station to the airport (different train, same track, ridiculously cheaper), anyone know?
Gyaos.[/QUOTE]
Take bus S1, just outside Exit B of the Tung Chung station. Approximately every 7 ~ 10 minutes.
Well, after seeing all the posts, I decided to go to 8 MK. It was pretty easy to find, as per previous instruction to exit on A2 exit of the MK station, crossed the street, and there I was. I went up the stairs to essentially the 3rd floor in the US system, and some guy came out to greet me. Here, I don't think the previous post emphasized this enough, the place is a dive, even more divy than some places I have seen in Shenzhen. If you smoke, bring some smokes to cover up the musty smell of the place. It's nothing disgusting, just not pleasant. The rooms are pretty divy. I told papa what I wanted, and waited for 15 minutes or so for the first girl, which was too tall and fat for me. I waited for another 15 minutes for another girl. I have to say that the two girls I saw were both pretty young, below 22. The girl I ended up with was around 20 and was quite tight down there. Her attitude was not great (though I did wake her up from her sleep as I went there at 4pm). Total damage HKD 360 for short CBJ and FS.
I don't know where else to ask this and I am totally out of my element here (I mostly monger in Germany and in Montreal) but:
I have Hong Kong Dollars from the early 1990s.
Are these still accepted or exchangeable for the current currency?
Or are they better off being sold as collectible items on say, Ebay?
Thanks!
Thanks for the info, guys, much appreciated
Great to know that there's atm I can use. But this time around, I'll be bringing cash and trying to limit my atm/visa use, though I do prefer using my visa
Makes sense about the girls in wanchai giving the 'cold shoulder' to non-english speaking people since they themselves speak english more than cantonese. I'll keep that in mind, and 'charming' the bouncer, will try, without getting my arse kick thinking I'm hitting on him, haha
By the way, I cancelled my hotel booking. Did it with agoda.com but wasnt too pleased with the service, so I cancelled and decided to book a hotel when I arrive in Hong Kong,
I know it's riskier, but I did it before when I went to Japan, and (believe it or not) they (booking at the airport) gives the best rate
Anyone done this before? Booking a hotel at the airport when they arrive?
HK,
Thanks for maintaining such a fun town. I doubt if I can add much to such a splendid forum, but will try. Can I ask two questions first?
- How do you find hotel reservation girls?
- Where is Boracay?
Had a nice young lady accompany me home last night and found out that Laguna and Boracy are islands in the PI. How appropriate. I was aiming for a curvalicious latin american at Fenwicks, but decided to walk the block first (Neptunes, Galaxy, Stickey Fingers, etc.) When I got back she was climbing in a cab. Oh well, this is the third time I have seen her out so I'm sure I'll get another chance.
My experience is that Laguna is a younger crowd, with better dancing and standing lap dances from the lasses. Fenwicks is definately better if you want variety (latin, russian, but did not see any africans). Neptunes is a bit loungy for me.
Fuji bldg is alive and well. Barbie on 17 is enthusiastic, but couldn't cope so avoid if you are on the large side. In Europe they have buildings like that, but the girls sit in the doorway chatting and what not. That is a much better system so you can easily see eveyone who is available.
After two philipinas off lockart I can say GFE is not on the menu. Sweet and all, but the menu was a little limited. Both of them tried to get me to go to sleep so they could do whatever. No way. ST is for my protection.
Some of the earlier reports of distinction list two MPs on Lockhardt in CWB, but both are gone so don't bother. I intend to check out YMT and golden mile, but never seem to make it past lockhardt. Not complaining too much though.
Have fun,
Andy
this site has given me so much information, not only about hong kong, but other places in the world that i have traveled. most of the travel has been on business, so my experiences are from the perspective of a traveling business man. i tend to be out early in the evenings, and not out much past midnight. so here is my hk experience. i give you my experience, as i saw it. if anyone wants to say i paid too much, or should have done. then keep it to yourself. i am adding to the collective knowledge here, not bashing anyone, and hope i don’t get bashed.
sunday was my first day, i took the high speed ferry from tsim sha tsui (tst) to central and did the tourist thing, going to victoria peak. on my way there is did see the ladies on their blankets as this is servant day off. they will, hang out in the parks, mostly filipino, but also malaysian and indonesians. one particularly attractive lady saw me looking at her and said hi. should have stopped. later i took the trolley to wan chi where i heard the real action takes place.
the wan chi nightclub district is along lockhart rd roughly between fenwick st and fleming rd. i got there about 2pm. first i went to laguna’s cause i heard this is the place for the filipino ladies to hang on their day off. i got a beer, and hoped my eyes would adjust to the dark. i could see maybe 5 female shapes, but couldn’t tell much more so took a hike. lot’s of activity on lockhart rd, so i found the bridge, a small bar that has open windows that look over the street. i met 2 cute indo’s there. they were drinking a beer, so i afford to buy another. one of them said she wanted a margarita, my reply is i wanted a lexus, but i wasn’t going to get one; would she like another beer. so we all got beer and talked. both are from indonesia, both work are child care workers, and have been in hk for 8 years. we watched many ladies going into the disco across the street, and the action on the street, which was quite entertaining. they didn’t want to go anywhere else, so i left them and headed out.
i went past club romania, which i guess is a hostess bar. i don’t know why i ended up there, but i did. i got a beer for $54 hk, and these two ladies joined me, and started to talk, they asked that i buy them a drink, which i did. their drinks it turns out are $220hk. the mamasan or waitress, say pay later. guys’ that’s a mistake. always ask the price. any way they both drop drawers and we have a good time looking and feeling. one has small tits and shaved pussy, the other bigger tits and hairy bush. they want to go to the hotel, which is going to be like $2000 hk. none of these ladies are much to look at and are probably in their 30’s. i decline and head out. there are so many of these bars, with older ladies out side, trying to entice you in. offer cheap beer, and beautiful ladies. the real business is the ladies drinks. the women are paid a commission for the drinks, and that is how they make their money, and to pay back their contract to whomever sponsored them to come to hk.
next i found my way to the showbiz night club. i met this young cute half japanese and half filipino. i got my beer and she got a drink in one of the back rooms. we played for a while, and then the mamsan came over for the next step. for $1500 we go to a love hotel close by for an hour. so, i take her up on the deal. shower, suck and fuck. it was good, not great. then we talked for awhile. she is on her third tour of hk. she is the oldest in her family in the pi. she showed me pictures of her family, and her "boyfriend" who lives in england. and her house in pi. they were relocated after the volcano. so, after the hour, another quick shower, and i walk her back to the club and head home around 6pm.
monday evening after dark i am walking through the square near the tst centre, and lady approaches and says, want beautiful women? all of a sudden girls who were sitting on the benches converge. i like one so made a deal. the deal here was $800 for 2 hours, in my hotel. i go to my room and 10 minutes later this cute chinese girl is knocking at my door. we shower and play around and she points at the clock and indicates 10, well that’s less than 2 hours, but more than 1 so, ok. we are going at it, when there is a knock on the door. it’s her "friend" she comes in and hands me her phone and mamasan is on the phone, with a 2 girl offer. i have only $100 hk left in local money. i tell the mamasan that’s all i have and don’t want the second. she says ok, the second girl will stay. i give her the $100 and she is out the door. now i am pissed, and couldn’t get hard again. so time’s up and she leaves. she wants a tip, but i said her friend got her tip.
later in the week, i got back to wan chi in the evening around 6. i avoid all the come on’s from the mamasans on the street and try to find fenwicks which i heard was a place where i might find a freebee if i had some game. fenwick’s has no happy hour, so there is no one there. i go back to laguna, next on the list. just as described. when you go up the stairs to your immediate right are ladies from europe and africa. to the left is a small room off the dance floor where the indo’s hang, and the rest are filipinos. i got a $20hk beer and mingle. i talk to a couple of filipinos, not so good looking up close. i found my way to the indo section and these 2 girls are dancing and they are really dancing good. really hot. i walk over and tell them they dance quite well. sit down and join them, dance with them. they bought their own drinks, which i think is free any way during happy hour. they are both restaurant workers enjoying their night off and have holiday the next day. we dance and drink and have a good time. i zero in on one and start touching and kissing. after a while we leave and head to my hotel across the bay. the ferry is closed, after the long walk, so we get a taxi, making out in the back the whole way. get to my room and shower, as she is really drunk, and then we had the wildest time in bed. she was as wild in bed as she was on the dance floor. after 3 hours and a couple of nuts; i got her a cab and sent her on the way.
in summary, watch out for the hostess bars, they are all out to sell you expensive ladies drinks. they may say they are topless bars, but are all the same hostess places. there seems to be a social system, where the locals are on top, the filipinos, indos’s etc are next, because they speak english, and then the mainland chinese, because they don’t speak english. wan chi is where the action is and there are freebee’s to be had. these ladies are domestics and are looking for boyfriends and husbands. play your cards and for the price of a few drinks and a cab ride, you will have a great time.
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The Kitty Hawk will NOT come to HKG for Thanksgiving so less competition for all mongers there.
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071122/pl_nm/china_usa_kittyhawk_dc_3[/url]
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[QUOTE=Eaglestar]The Kitty Hawk will NOT come to HKG for Thanksgiving so less competition for all mongers there.
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071122/pl_nm/china_usa_kittyhawk_dc_3[/url]
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Wishful thinking. China just reversed decision based on 'humatitarian concerns'.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Wishful thinking. China just reversed decision based on 'humatitarian concerns'.[/QUOTE]
Why that's the same reason why I go to Hong Kong, personally! ;)
[QUOTE=Scorpio33]Take bus S1, just outside Exit B of the Tung Chung station. Approximately every 7 ~ 10 minutes.[/QUOTE]
Oo! Big thanks!
Gyaos.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Wishful thinking. China just reversed decision based on 'humatitarian concerns'.[/QUOTE]
The US Navy decided to go back to Japan as they had already turned the boats around so there will be no Navy here this week.
Wan Chai was interesting last night as everything from the bars, to the girls, to the cops were all staffed up for 8,000 sailors and almost no one showed up as most local expats stayed away. It was a little weird.
I had a great time though and wound up with 2 girls for 2 hours. Gave them each 600 and they were happy. One was a lady whom I had not seen for a year and a half who was looking after a new gal on her first trip here. We broke the new girl in nicely and I have some great pics.
[QUOTE=Jackyo]I don't know where else to ask this and I am totally out of my element here (I mostly monger in Germany and in Montreal) but:
I have Hong Kong Dollars from the early 1990s.
Are these still accepted or exchangeable for the current currency?
Or are they better off being sold as collectible items on say, Ebay?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
If they were issued in the early 1990s I think they should still be legal tender. Pre-1997 banknotes did NOT become counterfiet at the time of the Handover, although new designs were issued then (for coins as well) where the image of the Queen was needless to say replaced with something else...
There are three banks issuing notes in Hong Kong: HSBC, Standard Chartered, and the Bank of China. They are always changing the design of banknotes here, and are now starting to switch to the plastic money (such as they use in Australia) but old notes still circulate (especially green ten dollar notes). Only the really old, large-size notes from the early 80s and before are no longer accepted.
Only other thing I might mention, is that there was a scandal earlier this year when a lot of fake 1000 dollar notes got circulated, I think the 2001 and 2002 issues. But many merchants still won't accept them, regardless what year they were issued.
One other thing: in Macau, they will not accept pre-1997 HK coins (with the Queen's image). I do not know the reason for this weird attitude, since the coins are still legal tender here.
This might be a bit off topic guys, but do you guys know where I can go and download some HK porn?
While flitting through HK on the way from elsewhere back to Europe I was determined to find some action at the expense of sleep during this short stop.
I stayed at the Holiday Inn in Kowloon. Tried the bar there as it is a famous pick up joint. It was very crowed and I only saw two girls not in conversation, so I opted for the "sure thing" of the equally famous 37 Dundas Street, jumped in a taxi and was there in 10 mins.
A warm welcome by the staff, shown to a small room with a TV and I was provided with a free beer. I waited for about 10 mins or so on my own before the lady in charge returned and apologised for the delay but they were very busy. She explained that my visit would cost HK$490 for 50 mins, all inclusive.
So I agreed and waited another 5 mins for her to return with a small but cute and very busty young girl. I would have liked more choice but she was all that was available right now, so OK, but she spoke little English.
She took my hand and showed me to a small spartan room with a basic ensuite. She started undressing me right away (which I like) and gasped at my now hard display (not that big really, I guess it is a relative thing and as I said she was short). anyway into the shower which was welcome as HK can be a steamy place. She washed me all over so I washed her also, gosh these boobs were nice.
Fresh towel to dry and on to the bed and started with a BBBJ then DATY then Mish as gently as I could as she was worried about being hurt. I spun her over to a nice finish from behind.
After a cuddle and fondle I was ready to go again which she reluctantly agreed to to get the best of my 50 mins.
Another shower, and more fresh towel to dry up. Interesting she indicated to use a tisshue to dry my genitals, the towel looked clean but I took her advice anyway.
So, not a classy place but the price was OK and the experience was good , so I would go again.
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[QUOTE=MegaPoint]
One other thing: in Macau, they will not accept pre-1997 HK coins (with the Queen's image). I do not know the reason for this weird attitude, since the coins are still legal tender here.[/QUOTE]
Macau does not accept the $10 coin, even the post-1997 ones.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend]Macau does not accept the $10 coin, even the post-1997 ones.[/QUOTE]
That is because a large portion of the $10 coin floating around in Macau a few years ago were fakes. Most people just refuse $10 coins out of habit there. In Macau I won't let someone give me a $10 coin in change. Taxi drives in particular are bad about passing off the $10 coins to people who do not know better. For a US$1.25 it all seems a little silly.
Greetings,
I'll be in HK this Saturday and after a 16 hour flight, I'll surely need a massage and "extras." I've never been to a sauna before and was wondering if someone could tell me what the standard hours of operation may be? Also, are YS places open 24/7?
Thanks in advance.
Are there short time hotels anyone can recommend near Neptune or the surrounding area? Also, how much would a such a room cost and for how long?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Gren62]Are there short time hotels anyone can recommend near Neptune or the surrounding area? Also, how much would a such a room cost and for how long?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Try Ming Court on Lockhart Road.
Price is 150 or 160 per 90 minutes.
Most of the girls you will pick up will know where to go. A poster mentioned the Ming Court. Down the street past the overhead is Beverly hotel, and continuing down the same road, after you cross the street is Victoria which is more expensive than Ming court.
Have fun and stay safe!
[QUOTE=Gren62]Are there short time hotels anyone can recommend near Neptune or the surrounding area? Also, how much would a such a room cost and for how long?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
hello fellas - i haven't been to HK in a while and noticed lots have changed, such as the shut down of best161 and all. What a bummer, those sites were like gems.
Anyway I'd be interested to find out about a couple of things:
1. In terms of pro action, where's the best value for money for russian / south american girls? fenwicks? I've seen some gems in hotels before but don't know if they exist much anymore. MK RLD seems lower quality. None of the current 141/161 sites seem to have any white girls either
2. Freebies - I've never really done normal pick ups in HK. The game here seems very different from the States. I'm also an Asian guy and I don't know how that works for /against me. Any locals got advice on how to work this? Where are the best places (malls, shopping in day etc) to do this? Wan Chai? TST?
Thanks
Met a great 141 girl in Marbel road, was in flat D, she was matuer ish, mid to late 30's, but a great body. Really ncie big tits, soft and bouncy.
The set up was standard, a bed and shower, and not much more, but the service really made up for it. She have a great body massage, and then rode me liek a cowgirl, really enthusiaastic, must have been in there with her for close to an hour. She didn'; t really kiss, but we smaked lips on a few occasions, usualyl when asked, and wanted me to carry on even after I had cum, but I had a friend waiting for me, so had to go. I'd go see her again, she was in room D, at the end of the corridor.
I've seen a lot of barber shop signs outside of buildings in the Temple Street/Jordan area. What are those places? Surely, they can't all be actual barber shops!
Thanks.
I'm heading to HK for the first time next week. Just a couple questions about the 141 site. If they have the address, does that mean you can just show up or do you need to make an appointment? I assume you just show up since some show only the phone number. I'll be staying at the Cosmopolitan near causeway so if anyone knows of anything nearby I'd appreciate it.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Azanluver]I'm heading to HK for the first time next week. Just a couple questions about the 141 site. If they have the address, does that mean you can just show up or do you need to make an appointment? I assume you just show up since some show only the phone number. I'll be staying at the Cosmopolitan near causeway so if anyone knows of anything nearby I'd appreciate it.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
For the girls for whom addresses are given, you can always call and try to make an appointment in advance, but the English skills of the girls are usually minimal if any at all (though there are exceptions).
If they don't otherwise say so, you can just show up at these locations, but be aware they may already be busy with another monger, and they don't appreciate being interrupted (usually there is a sign on the door indicating whether they are busy or not.) In this case, it is useful to note down a few possibilities in the same building or area, in case you can't avail yourself of your first choice.
Obviously you have to call the papasan/mamasan first for the hotel appointment girls.
Depending on the time, they are quiet, i went during the day, and all four on Marbel road where free. They are often in clumps as well, 2-4 rooms per location, and all working.
Hey there,
I'll be arriving in HK around 11pm shortly and I'm wondering if anyone can reccommend a good massage place to stay the night (usually after the massage I think).
Haven't done it in a while and was wondering where the best place is right now.
Thanks!
PL
Thanks to all for 85 pages of mostly useful information and the occasional war. One thing I've not seen discussed here is how well the girls do out of our hobby. I'm a newb myself, with a bit of Thai experience (see prior posting) where I know these answers, but nothing in HK until my trip next month.
Why do I care? Mostly I just want to stay away from any situation where the girl is some sort of near-slave who has been tricked into the business, or who gets virtually nothing while the house or pimp gets virtually everything. I'd much rather go with a girl who is going to earn a decent living out of her job.
So, the question is: in places like 37 Dundas, K-Pressure, or the 1 4 1/hotel girls, do I have to worry about the girls being exploited in these ways? I'm hoping not, but as a newbie I have to ask for input. I have read that tipping to the girl is discouraged, so that means the house controls the money. All knowledgeable opinions welcomed.
Gherkin
Hello Folks:
This isn't a report, but more of a travel query. Are there any travel sites like c-trip that allow booking or give information on flights from Hong Kong into China?
I know Dragon with go into the mainland, but the rates, if I recall are still pretty steep. Normally I would cross in Shenzhen and would fly out of SZN. Primarily I'm trying to get to places like Xiamen, Fuzhou, Changsha, (Hunan) Ningbo, etc.
Can someone point me to some good current information? Much appreciated.
Cap
[QUOTE=Cappy]Hello Folks:
This isn't a report, but more of a travel query. Are there any travel sites like c-trip that allow booking or give information on flights from Hong Kong into China?
Cap[/QUOTE]Hi Cappy,
Have you given zuji.com a try? The full HK version of their site is at: [url]http://www.zuji.com.hk[/url]
Typically they have some decent online deals all over Asia. However, there are often some strict limitations for the cheapest tickets - ie: must use Visa card; must travel with 2 people; must stay 3 days, but no more then 5; etc. It just really depends on where you're going and the time of year. Several weeks ago, they had a return fare from HKG to XMN for HK$588 plus tax.
Scorpio
[QUOTE=Azanluver]I'm heading to HK for the first time next week. Just a couple questions about the 141 site. If they have the address, does that mean you can just show up or do you need to make an appointment? I assume you just show up since some show only the phone number. I'll be staying at the Cosmopolitan near causeway so if anyone knows of anything nearby I'd appreciate it.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Do your homework first, make sure you have a list of girls and/or alternative venues (building or floor) and if you use a pda or mobile phone with internet access, note you can see the menu of girls on the site while you're hunting. Not all the girls are in and/or working, so it is hit and miss.
Then away you go.....walk to the first building or location of choice...it's all hit and miss.
Knock on the door, check her out before you enter....you are not obligated to walk in so be a little 'selective'. Trust me, the girls won't be 'insulted', it happens to them all the time.
[QUOTE=Gren62]I've seen a lot of barber shop signs outside of buildings in the Temple Street/Jordan area. What are those places? Surely, they can't all be actual barber shops!
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Haha,
(1) Is it a large place? If it is, it's for sex.
(2) Is it open at late night? If it is, it's for sex.
(3) Are there more guys than girls outside? If there are...it's for sex.
(4) Go in. If they treat you all too well. It's for sex.
I've never been to a barber shop in the traditional sense in Asia in my life.
[QUOTE=Gherkin] Why do I care? Mostly I just want to stay away from any situation where the girl is some sort of near-slave who has been tricked into the business, or who gets virtually nothing while the house or pimp gets virtually everything. I'd much rather go with a girl who is going to earn a decent living out of her job.
[/QUOTE]
The definition of "exploited" is subjective and vague. Exploited means someone is not getting paid what he/she is worth. So it's just a point of view.
A better question to ask is if working girls in Hong Kong are being coerced. And the answer is NO. There is no evidence of slavery or trickery. She's voluntarily doing it because she feels it's in her interest.
[QUOTE=Gherkin]
Why do I care? Mostly I just want to stay away from any situation where the girl is some sort of near-slave who has been tricked into the business, or who gets virtually nothing while the house or pimp gets virtually everything. I'd much rather go with a girl who is going to earn a decent living out of her job.
So, the question is: in places like 37 Dundas, K-Pressure, or the 1 4 1/hotel girls, do I have to worry about the girls being exploited in these ways? I'm hoping not, but as a newbie I have to ask for input. I have read that tipping to the girl is discouraged, so that means the house controls the money. All knowledgeable opinions welcomed.
Gherkin[/QUOTE]
I have met a few 141 girls who were forced into the business due to debts owed on the mainland. One girl went back early and told me that the 'agent' harassased her family and was forced to go back to work.
I agree with you completely in not supporting the 'slave' business but it becomes a fine line. For example, one really stunning Thai girl I knew in BKK long ago decided to go to work in Macau because her friend told her it she can make alot of money. She went over on her free will but the mamasan took her passport and forced her to work off a debenture before she saw any money.
So it is a grey area sometimes. In that case the girl went on her own free will but there are many cases where girls are 'tricked'. This is often the case in naive filipina's who are told they are just going to be 'dancers' or just 'talk to guys'.
That is one reason I enjoy the 'freelance' market which is predominatly in Wan Chai. The girls have freely chosen that lifestyle and while they may 'owe' some agent some fees (for getting them a visa and housing) it is entirely their choice of life.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend]
A better question to ask is if working girls in Hong Kong are being coerced. And the answer is NO. There is no evidence of slavery or trickery. She's voluntarily doing it because she feels it's in her interest.[/QUOTE]
I strongly disagree with that and I bet alot of other long timers have stories to tell of 'coerced' women especially from the 'go go's' on Lockhart road.
Freelance girls are a different story but structured sex business' such as 141 and generally those focused on the masses (such as the Mongkok brothels) it is entirely different.
Yes, there is some slavery is going on hong kong. I personally know Philippine girls who are brought here on the pretex of getting a legitimate job only to find out they have to sell their bodies to pay off the debt.
I am sure many girls are brought here in the same way.
It is very difficult to know who is co-erced into prostituition and who is not. The girls always tell lies to make you believe they are victims.
For me to feel good, I need to know that the girl is doing ok out of the deal. Tipping directly to the girl is one way to help that situation, but again and again I've read that places like 37 Dundas suggest (or is it insist) "no tip".
On the other hand, people continue to report very positively about the enthusiastic service from the girls at 37D (even with no tip expected). Surely we wouldn't see too much of that if the girls weren't doing ok out of the deal. Perhaps naive of me to think so. Perhaps they get beaten if customer says bad service. God, I hope not.
Help me out here, guys. I'm no more hard or soft hearted than anyone else, but if the girl doesn't do well out of it, I can't feel good about bonking her.
At least at a 1 4 1 the money goes into the hands of the girl (although perhaps with horrendous "taxes" to the building and triad - once again, I hope not too bad). It's not that I want to understand every detail of the business, but I do at least want the sex to be properly consenting, not coerced.
Gherkin
[QUOTE=Sammon]Yes, there is some slavery is going on hong kong. I personally know Philippine girls who are brought here on the pretex of getting a legitimate job only to find out they have to sell their bodies to pay off the debt.
I am sure many girls are brought here in the same way.
It is very difficult to know who is co-erced into prostituition and who is not. The girls always tell lies to make you believe they are victims.[/QUOTE]
This web site, [url]http://www.hku.hk/ccpl/pub/occasionalpapers/paper3/paper3-part4.htm[/url] has some examples of HK slavery, but in general it says the number of examples is quite small.
Gherkin
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]I strongly disagree with that and I bet alot of other long timers have stories to tell of 'coerced' women especially from the 'go go's' on Lockhart road.
Freelance girls are a different story but structures sex business' such as 141 and generally those focused on the masses (such as the Mongkok brothels) it is entirely different.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gherkin]This web site, [url]http://www.hku.hk/ccpl/pub/occasionalpapers/paper3/paper3-part4.htm[/url] has some examples of HK slavery, but in general it says the number of examples is quite small.
Gherkin[/QUOTE]
It is shades of grey. They most likely are not kidnapped off the streets , bundled up and put into the back of a truck and sent to another country like you might see in other areas of the world.
However alot are 'misled' and adopt a 'grin it and bear it' attitude.
Try to arrange a meeting with a Flipper in a go go bar after work. They have to go back to their apt after the bar closes and not allowed to go out unaccompanied. This is a form of slavery since she has no free will on her movements during non working hours.
[QUOTE=Gherkin]I'd much rather go with a girl who is going to earn a decent living out of her job.
in places like 37 Dundas, K-Pressure, or the 1 4 1/hotel girls, do I have to worry about the girls being exploited in these ways? I'm hoping not, but as a newbie I have to ask for input. I have read that tipping to the girl is discouraged, so that means the house controls the money. All knowledgeable opinions welcomed.[/QUOTE]
I completely agree that the girls should do well on this deal too. Most opinions so far are that the gogo's are NOT good situations for the girls (possibly not all of them), nevertheless, I don't have any experience with this venue. 37 and K I do know... my superficial understanding is that they make out pretty well, are there only briefly to make some dough and then head back home. No long indentured servitude. In the end, some middlemen (mama, transport, hotels, owner, etc) make alot too, but that is reality everywhere. Same for 141.
[QUOTE=Manfest]I completely agree that the girls should do well on this deal too. Most opinions so far are that the gogo's are NOT good situations for the girls (possibly not all of them), nevertheless, I don't have any experience with this venue. 37 and K I do know... my superficial understanding is that they make out pretty well, are there only briefly to make some dough and then head back home. No long indentured servitude. In the end, some middlemen (mama, transport, hotels, owner, etc) make alot too, but that is reality everywhere. Same for 141.[/QUOTE]
I believe that girls in places like 37 and K pressure also have limited movement once they are 'off work'. It is alot different then lets say a stripper in the West who when work finishes she can do whatever she likes. Girls in HK that cater towards the masses cannot usually do what they want after work. They are controlled by their minders.
Only those who have HK ID's have more freedom. That is why the girls in the 141's tend to be older since they had to put in some 'time' to get the ID.
[QUOTE=Manfest]In the end, some middlemen (mama, transport, hotels, owner, etc) make alot too, but that is reality everywhere. Same for 141.[/QUOTE]I don't mind the idea of the girl's handlers doing well too, as long as the girl does ok. From what I've heard so far, I'm looking forward to coming to HK and trying out the places mentioned. Thanks for all responses so far.
Gherkin
Gentlemen
For mongering purposes, should I come to HK.
- a week before Chinese New Year
- during Chinese New Year (I presume not - girls home with family?)
- the week after Chinese New Year
- further away from Chinese New Year
- Chinese New year doesn't matter at all
Thks
Gherkin
[wanted to say I did RTFF and the recent post about CNY which said to avoid that particular week, but didn't touch upon whether before or after was a better bet. --G]
I was reading the Japan forum and out of curiosity jump into the Hong Kong forum. Being a local in Hong Kong, I can tell you some of the comments you see here is plain wrong. At least that is not something the locals will do. Well, here you go, the guide from a Hong Kong person.
The first thing you need to know is get laid with a hooker/girl in Hong Kong is legal, as long as she is 18 or above. Being a hooker is also legal as long as she work for herself. (self employ). Even if you get caught by a police, you should not panic. They will just take a look your ID/passport and you can leave. But then, if the girl is 18 or below, you will be in DEEP DEEP trouble. (read jail) Always check the ID first if you are into one night stand. You know, most foreigners can't really tell the age of an asian.
The easiest way to get laid is to get on google and search the word "Sex" "141". You should come up with a website which have tons of girls you can choose from. The website itself do not provide any escort service, it is just a platform for the hookers to get customers. The website sorted by location. Most of the pretty chicks are in Shim Shai Tsui and Causeway Bay. Price ranges from $300 to $2000 Hongkies. Warning. Any girls below $400 will be freaking old. You have been warned!! Once you find the one you want, you could find the address under the picture. Take a taxi and go there. For most higher price girls, they need reservation. You will need to make a call and ask for availability. If she is available, the pimp will ask you to take a taxi to go to a pre-arranged hotel. Once you get to the hotel, you will need to call the pimp again and he will tell you the room number. You will go straight to the room. Beware that sometimes the girl in the room might not be the same one you saw on the website. If that is the case, just say no and leave unless she is prettier. However, most of the girls you see on the website should be exactly the same one when you go to the hotel room. The pimp want to make long term relationship afterall.
For the price from $300 up to $1400, all those chicks are NOT Hong Kong girls. Hong Kong chicks starting from $1500 and up. They are not cheap. Anything below $1500, they are from mainland China. This is a golden rule in Hong Kong, if the price tag is lower than $1500, 99.9% the chick you are screwing is not from Hong kong. For those mainland China chicks, do not expect they say a word of English. However, you should have no problem to communicate with a Hong Kong girl in English. They might speak with accent, but at least you don't need to use your hand to communicate like you do with mainland China girls.
To be honest, I usually just pick the mainland China girls. They are cheaper and usually have bigger tits. I can speak mandarin anyway, so communication is not a big problem for me. However, if you require someone to speak English, you might need to pick a Japanese, Korean or Hong Kong girl on the website.
A cheaper alternative for young chicks is to go to Portland street. When you go there, you should see a "KFC" at the junction. You will see a lot of yellow signs that said "指壓". Those are cheap, starting from $280 and up. When you go up there, a pimp will start calling girls to come. You can turn down 2 or 3 girls before you get into the room. Nothing special, shower, BJ, sex in 45 minutes, very mechanical, but you get the job done. All these chicks are from mainland China. Sometimes you might find some pretty one here, but sex 141 usually have a higher chance to get what you want.
Kareoke club - You will need a local to bring you there. Most Hong Kong people will go to Kareoke club. They are separated into 3 kinds. The first kind is the low end which all chicks are from mainland China. These clubs usually found in Shim Sha Tsui. You will have a KTV room to sing and have girls to sit with you. You can finger them if you like, but just not too horney. The going rate is $500 for 2 and half hour having a girl sitting next to you, another $1000 for sex. Of course you will need to pay for KTV room. A small room for 4 people is around $1500. You will need to order beer until you reach the minimum. You can pick whatever girls you want. The manager will bring you girls to choose. On a busy night peak hours(9pm - 11pm), you might need to wait for girls because all of them are working. The 2nd kind basially is the same as the first one except these clubs in Wan Chai. (No, not those cheap bars you see on the street in Wan Chai) Unless you have a local to bring you there, you have no clue where they are. The going rate having a girl sitting next to you for 4 hours is $1000 and $2000 for sex, the KTV room charge is usually $2500 and up for a small room. *Usually* the girls in Wan Chai is a bit taller and prettier, but to be honest, I don't see that much difference. The third kind is the most expensive one. Girls are from Hong Kong. The going rate having a girl sits with you + drink is around $2500 per head a night, no room charge. The fee already include the girl + drinks + room charge. Sex is not gurantee and you will need to ask the girl. And you can't finger them in anyway or they will just leave the room. If you are lucky enough and the girl do happen to like you, the price tag for 1 shot is $2000 and up. So, we are talking 5 grand a night at the minimum. You might ask, why kareoke club? The reason is that Hong Kong people would like to sing and drink with friends. After they have all the fun, they got the choice to have sex. The Kareoke club is more like a place for friends to hang out and drink, sex is optional.
One night stand - to be honest, if you are after Hong Kong girls, you are really out of luck unless you look like Brad Pitt. Most Hong Kong girls are not really into foreigners, especially strangers. Your best bet is pubs in Lan Kwai Fong. You might get a chance to meet OL and Hong Kong girls who speak fluent English over there. If the Hong Kong girls speaks perfect English, most likely she is working in a first tier bank somewhere in Central who meet foreigners on a daily basis. No fantasy here, they know all about you (foreigners). However, as I said, unless you are handsome, the chance of getting one night stand with Hong Kong girls is not high. But then. there are lot of philpinos there if you are not too picky.
Well, that's all I can share with you guys. Happy hunting.
NOW, someone please point me to a decent Japan and Korea guide....
NgHoWaan
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Sorry for asking question that I might pick up by reading prior posts but I do not get into HK very often and stay in Kowloon area when I do. Know about 141 site but wanted to go to good pick up bar in Kowloon. Any thoughts are appreciated.
I did some searches and learned that Hari's in Holiday Inn and JJ's in Hyatt are pretty good late in evening and that Sticky Fingers can be good. Would still appreciate some input
[QUOTE=Nghowaan]). However, as I said, unless you are handsome, the chance of getting one night stand with Hong Kong girls is not high.
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I am no Brad Pitt but I have done ok with first time HK local girls. I think you are off base here. The key to getting them in the sack is the size of your wallet not looks.
[QUOTE=Nghowaan]I was reading the Japan forum and out of curiosity jump into the Hong Kong forum. Being a local in Hong Kong, I can tell you some of the comments you see here is plain wrong. At least that is not something the locals will do. Well, here you go, the guide from a Hong Kong person.
Kareoke club - You will need a local to bring you there. Most Hong Kong people will go to Kareoke club. They are separated into 3 kinds. The first kind is the low end which all chicks are from mainland China. These clubs usually found in Shim Sha Tsui. You will have a KTV room to sing and have girls to sit with you. You can finger them if you like, but just not too horney. The going rate is $500 for 2 and half hour having a girl sitting next to you, another $1000 for sex. Of course you will need to pay for KTV room. A small room for 4 people is around $1500. You will need to order beer until you reach the minimum. You can pick whatever girls you want. The manager will bring you girls to choose. On a busy night peak hours(9pm - 11pm), you might need to wait for girls because all of them are working. The 2nd kind basially is the same as the first one except these clubs in Wan Chai. (No, not those cheap bars you see on the street in Wan Chai) Unless you have a local to bring you there, you have no clue where they are. The going rate having a girl sitting next to you for 4 hours is $1000 and $2000 for sex, the KTV room charge is usually $2500 and up for a small room. *Usually* the girls in Wan Chai is a bit taller and prettier, but to be honest, I don't see that much difference. The third kind is the most expensive one. Girls are from Hong Kong. The going rate having a girl sits with you + drink is around $2500 per head a night, no room charge. The fee already include the girl + drinks + room charge. Sex is not gurantee and you will need to ask the girl. And you can't finger them in anyway or they will just leave the room. If you are lucky enough and the girl do happen to like you, the price tag for 1 shot is $2000 and up. So, we are talking 5 grand a night at the minimum. You might ask, why kareoke club? The reason is that Hong Kong people would like to sing and drink with friends. After they have all the fun, they got the choice to have sex. The Kareoke club is more like a place for friends to hang out and drink, sex is optional.
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Nice update and thanks for the inside tips re the local KTV scene. Out of curiosity, the old Volvo club in Wanchai - haven't been there in years but is that tier 2?
[QUOTE=Nghowaan]
However, as I said, unless you are handsome, the chance of getting one night stand with Hong Kong girls is not high. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]I am no Brad Pitt but I have done ok with first time HK local girls. I think you are off base here. The key to getting them in the sack is the size of your wallet not looks.[/QUOTE]
Generally agree with most of what Nghowaan said and it provides a summary of part of the scene in HK from a local perspective.
I have to disagree with him somewhat about local HK girls and expats. I think for those just passing through town in would be hard to have a one night stand but not if you live here. Many of my staff comment on how lucky I am to be a gwielo and the advantages that it provides.
I agree with HKDog it seems the size of ones wallet is a huge attraction here. Some girls seem to get wet here as soon as they see your business card or hear where you live.
Also there are many HK girls that have gone overseas for schooling and some come back with a thing for white guys. I have more than one HK female friend who will pick up a white guy for fun. I will agree that Nghowaan that those who are pretty and have great English tend to have good jobs (I have some working for me) so they will not be looking for any poor slob.
Other than pay for play I tend to stay away from HK girls for one night stands. Central is too small and you never know when you are going to be walking into a bank or law firm and have to deal with an awkward situation. Too many other options.
Thought we'd dried up a bit recently and drifted into trivialities about money exchange and hotels...
Then I see NgHoWan revived things a bit even if he is for the most part simply wrong about the bit that all girls under $1,500 are either mainlanders or dogs. Neither is true. Altho a lot of his points are useful.
Anyway ... here’s a quick run down on purple sign places (which are way below No Fun's $1,500 threshold), with a few of the places (some mentioned in prev posts) that me and me mate have been researching. The purple signs are places a bit down market from 37 Dundas and K Pressure in that its an all in one, ie, you don’t go upstairs to a ‘hotel’. Service is consistent, however, the girls try to please, and the mama usually checks after that service was good!
The girls are not stunners, most are mid to late 20s; some are a bit past their use by date, but many can be quite attractive. In comparison with the 141 individual places where service is often very hit and miss, and with the hotel girls where it’s often a CWOT apart from seeing a beautiful girl underneath you, you will basically never leave a purple sign place without a smile on your face. They are all very happy humping grounds.
Most places claim they’re open 24 hours, which is probably true, but few worthwhile girls come on shift before 2 pm, although there’ll be some hanging round all the time.
All the girls are legal in that they have Hong Kong ID cards – unlike 8 Mong Kok Rd.
They’re probably all triad run, but they’re all upfront and straight and many of the mamas and papas at the front desk speak often quite good English. You wont get ripped off, have gear stolen etc, in any of these places.
The charge at most of em is $360 more or less, for 45 mins. This is an all-in charge (puns are free), there’s no extra charge for the room, nor are you expected to tip. You pay afterwards at the front desk. Give em $400, they’ll put down two 20s; leave a $20 tip on the tray.
Most have a small generally very clean room with plastic covered bed and mirrors all around; shower toilet attached; TV with porno film on; you get ice and fire in many of em
The Routine is standard: Shower, BBBJ in shower; onto bed, back licking, AR; turn over, body massage, BBBJ, the works
Four I’ve tried out (all up on 2/F):
Club Meeting, 392 Portland St, mama is Nancy, no shit and v straight woman; good service, no hassle place; problem with rooms there at the moment, however, in that you now need to go to a sister place on Portland on the other side of Prince Edward Rd. (one of Nancy’s guy leads you the 100 meters; its no prob)
Gam Tin, 457 Shanghai St; friendly service
Sam Chuen, 685 Shanghai St; friendly service; friendly mama who speaks good English
Ging Wah, 398 Portland St – Surly service by guys at the front desk; quite a long wait for past her use by date girl who eventually turned up (I’d avoid this one, but that may have been just an off day!)
[url]http://www.man169.com/[/url]
is the site for many of them although they don’t update that regularly some of them; its also all in Chinese. To orient you a bit re. man169, go down the left side bar, click the drop down under Massage. You’ll see 9 entries – below and above the diamonds essentially.
Click on one and you get taken to the site’s ‘Photo Album” with 6 tabs.
The first is the building; the second the girls; ignore the rest.
For each site, you can see the address in the fifth box down at the left, with price.
Happy humping and find us a few more purple signs worthy of visiting
JS
John Smart,
Nice report. But sticking with 141 or 161 would be better of- [url]www.******.com[/url]
These triad run places, i hear have higher percentage of raids by cops. That's what my HK local friend told me. With the 141 places, it's at their apartment, so it's a little bit less risky. As HK laws are a bit strange in itself. You can be in a room with one girl even if they are a prostitute. But more than one girl you can be arrested because multiple girls would signify prostitution ring. That's what I heard. Perhaps I am wrong. Please correct me if I have the wrong information.
In terms of the 141 apartments. I feel that it's a bit better because most of the women are independents. As opposed to the triad run places, not all girls are willing to be in that line of work.
Just my two cents. But the places you described, I have heard give wonderful service though.
AsnDragon you are correct in your understanding of the law. The purple sign places are still quite safe for punters although I do not venture out to them often, although I did last night for the first time in quite a while.
John has recommended some good places in the past and I have found out about a few good places from him.
[QUOTE=AsnDragon]John Smart,
Nice report. But sticking with 141 or 161 would be better of- [url]www.******.com[/url]
These triad run places, i hear have higher percentage of raids by cops. That's what my HK local friend told me. With the 141 places, it's at their apartment, so it's a little bit less risky. As HK laws are a bit strange in itself. You can be in a room with one girl even if they are a prostitute. But more than one girl you can be arrested because multiple girls would signify prostitution ring. That's what I heard. Perhaps I am wrong. Please correct me if I have the wrong information.
In terms of the 141 apartments. I feel that it's a bit better because most of the women are independents. As opposed to the triad run places, not all girls are willing to be in that line of work.
Just my two cents. But the places you described, I have heard give wonderful service though.[/QUOTE]
Just wanted to say thanks to Scorpio33 for the "Zuji" lead. I'd never heard of them and zuji.com looks to be a fairly complete and useful travel site and company.
Customer Service has no problem dealing with an off-continent traveler. All correspondence has been cordial and business-like.
One concern I have is that in contrast to some of the Mainland agencies (like c-trip, etc.) they don't have a "meet & greet" desk at HKIA nor do they offer a direct to hotel service. This means that if you're not able to book and receive an e-ticket, one has to go to their HK office to pick up your paper-work.
Beyond that they look to be great! Does anyone know if "Zuji" advertises in the local media and are there any other groups like them in HK?
Many thanks,
Cappy
[QUOTE=Scorpio33]Have you given zuji.com a try? The full HK version of their site is at: [url]http://www.zuji.com.hk[/url]
Typically they have some decent online deals all over Asia. However, there are often some strict limitations for the cheapest tickets - ie: must use Visa card; must travel with 2 people; must stay 3 days, but no more then 5; etc. It just really depends on where you're going and the time of year. Several weeks ago, they had a return fare from HKG to XMN for HK$588 plus tax.
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cappy]Just wanted to say thanks to Scorpio33 for the "Zuji" lead. I'd never heard of them and zuji.com looks to be a fairly complete and useful travel site and company.
Customer Service has no problem dealing with an off-continent traveler. All correspondence has been cordial and business-like.
One concern I have is that in contrast to some of the Mainland agencies (like c-trip, etc.) they don't have a "meet & greet" desk at HKIA nor do they offer a direct to hotel service. This means that if you're not able to book and receive an e-ticket, one has to go to their HK office to pick up your paper-work.
Beyond that they look to be great! Does anyone know if "Zuji" advertises in the local media and are there any other groups like them in HK?
Many thanks,
Cappy[/QUOTE]I've found that priceline.com.hk has slightly better pricing, and they also have some pretty good hotel/airfare deals - ie, I once booked a package to Shanghai where the hotel + airfare was actually about the same or slightly cheaper (don't remember exactly) than just buying the air ticket outright (not quite sure how that works?).
I am staying at the Peninsula in a few weeks and have trouble bringing anyone back with me to the hotel. Other then hari's, is there anywhere else to go close by in Kowloon that anyone can reccomend?
[QUOTE=Strike1]I am staying at the Peninsula in a few weeks and have trouble bringing anyone back with me to the hotel. Other then hari's, is there anywhere else to go close by in Kowloon that anyone can reccomend?[/QUOTE]
Strike - get out of Holiday Inn (Hari's) onto Nathan, make a right turn, make another right turn onto Mody and walk several blocks to STICKY FINGERS - should find some talent there. If you do a search in the forum you will find further information on Sticky Fingers
[QUOTE=Firebird]Strike - get out of Holiday Inn (Hari's) onto Nathan, make a right turn, make another right turn onto Mody and walk several blocks to STICKY FINGERS - should find some talent there. If you do a search in the forum you will find further information on Sticky Fingers[/QUOTE]
Why anyone would travel 10+ hrs on a plane and not want to travel 15min thru the tunnel to Wan Chai is beyond me. Sticky Fingers has girls there. The word 'talent' is debatable.
[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]Generally agree with most of what Nghowaan said and it provides a summary of part of the scene in HK from a local perspective.
I have to disagree with him somewhat about local HK girls and expats. I think for those just passing through town in would be hard to have a one night stand but not if you live here. Many of my staff comment on how lucky I am to be a gwielo and the advantages that it provides.
I agree with HKDog it seems the size of ones wallet is a huge attraction here. Some girls seem to get wet here as soon as they see your business card or hear where you live.
Also there are many HK girls that have gone overseas for schooling and some come back with a thing for white guys. I have more than one HK female friend who will pick up a white guy for fun. I will agree that Nghowaan that those who are pretty and have great English tend to have good jobs (I have some working for me) so they will not be looking for any poor slob.
Other than pay for play I tend to stay away from HK girls for one night stands. Central is too small and you never know when you are going to be walking into a bank or law firm and have to deal with an awkward situation. Too many other options.[/QUOTE]
My two cents on this: I have had a number of HK girlfriends, but I have been here almost 20 years, and have made friendships which led to something else. There is one category of HK woman which hasn't been mentioned: Women who were born on the Mainland, and came to HK as teens or later. My best experiences have been with such women, whether for one night or one month or a year or more. For someone just passing through, it could be hard to tell who's who in this way, but for expats who live here, I wonder if any of them have had the same experience. The truly local girls are still sleeping with Hello Kitty in their 30s, if you know what I mean.....
[QUOTE=Gherkin]Gentlemen
For mongering purposes, should I come to HK.
- a week before Chinese New Year
- during Chinese New Year (I presume not - girls home with family?)
- the week after Chinese New Year
- further away from Chinese New Year
- Chinese New year doesn't matter at all
Thks
Gherkin[/QUOTE]Picking up Gherkins' question again. I'm planing to visit HK during Chinese New Year as well. Has anybody experienced HK at that time? How is mongering (and of course sightseeing as well)?
Thx in advance,
Stonk
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Why anyone would travel 10+ hrs on a plane and not want to travel 15min thru the tunnel to Wan Chai is beyond me. Sticky Fingers has girls there. The word 'talent' is debatable.[/QUOTE]
HKDOG I plan to spend one day in HK, heading for Changping. Am lazy and have hotel in Kowloon. In addition to 141 action am looking for good bar in Kowloon. I would say "why travel 10+ hours on plane and spend much time in Hong Kong when Macau and Dongguan are so close?"
[QUOTE=Stonk]Picking up Gherkins' question again. I'm planing to visit HK during Chinese New Year as well. Has anybody experienced HK at that time? How is mongering (and of course sightseeing as well)?
Thx in advance,
Stonk[/QUOTE]
Mongering opportunities will be quite limited during CNY. I suggest giving it a week clear on either side. CNY, and any of those 'Golden Week' holiday periods is also typically when there are crackdowns of a half-hearted but annoying sort to show the powers in Beijing how 'serious' the HK government is about, well, cracking down.
Basically the first half of February 2008 may be quite dull, and only the most expensive chicks, or the horror stories, will be around. Of course, FLs from non-Chinese countries will still be working Wanchai, etc., with the exception of Filipinas, who will go back to the the Flipps en masse to live like queens for a week.
Thanks very much MegaPoint. This is exactly the info I was looking for last week.
Gherkin
[QUOTE=MegaPoint]Mongering opportunities will be quite limited during CNY. I suggest giving it a week clear on either side. CNY, and any of those 'Golden Week' holiday periods is also typically when there are crackdowns of a half-hearted but annoying sort to show the powers in Beijing how 'serious' the HK government is about, well, cracking down.
Basically the first half of February 2008 may be quite dull, and only the most expensive chicks, or the horror stories, will be around. Of course, FLs from non-Chinese countries will still be working Wanchai, etc., with the exception of Filipinas, who will go back to the the Flipps en masse to live like queens for a week.[/QUOTE]
I made the trip from New Terr where I am in town for a couple of nights down to TST area this afternoon for some delight. I called Karen from the 161 site and found that her English speaking claim was not exactly true but Hell, who was there to talk?
She is a pretty young spinner and able to understand she is from ShenZhen and returning at the end of the month. I suppose her work visa expires. Anyway, she has a very good attitude and open to any and all positions. I totally enjoyed the time with her and will certainly see her again on another visit to the area.
Ez.
Was wondering what are the best times to go to the above places in terms of choice and quality of women?
I'm guessing its going to be during a week day time.
Reason i ask is cause i'm working, this is pretty much impossible for me to do and i can only really go on the weekends or after work (btw any idea when these places close).
What is the url of that 141 website?
[QUOTE=AsnDragon]John Smart,
Nice report. But sticking with 141 or 161 would be better of- [url]www.******.com[/url]
These triad run places, i hear have higher percentage of raids by cops. That's what my HK local friend told me. With the 141 places, it's at their apartment, so it's a little bit less risky. As HK laws are a bit strange in itself. You can be in a room with one girl even if they are a prostitute. But more than one girl you can be arrested because multiple girls would signify prostitution ring. That's what I heard. Perhaps I am wrong. Please correct me if I have the wrong information.
In terms of the 141 apartments. I feel that it's a bit better because most of the women are independents. As opposed to the triad run places, not all girls are willing to be in that line of work.
Just my two cents. But the places you described, I have heard give wonderful service though.[/QUOTE]
Can anyone recommend a place where you can find 2 bi girls?
Thanks
Yes, I've been there during weekdays and weekends. Usually the pm of weekdays will give you lots more choices. According to the mamasan, so far as my memory serves me right, around 2-5pm. I've been unable to go for the same reason as yours. So recently I've been to Dongguan/Shenzhen more often during weekends. It needs more time, but the quality of girls makes it worthwhile!
[QUOTE=The World]Was wondering what are the best times to go to the above places in terms of choice and quality of women?
I'm guessing its going to be during a week day time.
Reason i ask is cause i'm working, this is pretty much impossible for me to do and i can only really go on the weekends or after work (btw any idea when these places close).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nghowaan]Hong Kong chicks starting from $1500 and up. They are not cheap. Anything below $1500, they are from mainland China. This is a golden rule in Hong Kong, if the price tag is lower than $1500, 99.9% the chick you are screwing is not from Hong kong. For those mainland China chicks, do not expect they say a word of English. However, you should have no problem to communicate with a Hong Kong girl in English. They might speak with accent, but at least you don't need to use your hand to communicate like you do with mainland China girls...[/QUOTE]A brilliant post, Nghowaan, you should get a medal for this!
I am considering going over there in January, and I specifically want local gals, not MLC. I was aware of that 141 site already, but the number of gals on there charging 1500 or more is severely limited. I could only find a handful, and most of them had no pics. Could it be that because HK is so small, most local gals are too afraid to do that type of work? I'm thinking of also spending some time in Macau. I've already been there a few times, but not in recent years.
I was surprised to learn most of the pics on 141 are provided by the piaoke.
[QUOTE=John Smart]Then I see NgHoWan revived things a bit even if he is for the most part simply wrong about the bit that all girls under $1,500 are either mainlanders or dogs. Neither is true. Altho a lot of his points are useful.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you are right, may be I didn't really look into the late 20s category. I tend to stay away from any chicks older than 26. I am paying anyway...I would like to have something fresh~ =P
[QUOTE=John Smart]Most places claim they’re open 24 hours, which is probably true, but few worthwhile girls come on shift before 2 pm, although there’ll be some hanging round all the time.
All the girls are legal in that they have Hong Kong ID cards – unlike 8 Mong Kok Rd.
They’re probably all triad run, but they’re all upfront and straight and many of the mamas and papas at the front desk speak often quite good English. You wont get ripped off, have gear stolen etc, in any of these places.[/QUOTE]One more thing I forgot to tell you guys. A girl with a Hong Kong ID cards do not make them a Hong Kong girls. A lot of mainland China girls pay to get marry with some Hong Kong dudes to get ID card. Once they got the ID card, they will work in those places you mentioned. Of course, there are some late 20's to early 30s ex-club girls work there also. They *are* Hong Kong girls.
You can't really tell unless you understand Cantonese and able to tell by their accent.
[QUOTE=J Lover]I was surprised to learn most of the pics on 141 are provided by the piaoke.[/QUOTE]What is the piaoke?
I'm currently in Hong Kong at the start of a multi country trip. Since the Philippines is not on my agenda, I've been focusing on the Philippina ladies of the Wan Chai bars like Laguna, Makati, and Fenwicks. I've had three LT so far, all Philippina, and all very nice, and all 1000HK for the night. However, one girl in particular stood out for her oral service. The interesting thing is that this girl is an undiscovered gem in my opinion. She's not particularly popular because she's a little shy and perhaps a 6 in looks. However, in attitude and performance, she's a 9. We began the evening with an extended shower. She was very proactive in helping me wash and probably would have been content to stay there and wash me as long as I wished. She is a spinner...about 5 feet tall, 100 lbs,and long dark hair. An "A" cup no doubt with nice responsive dark nipples. We proceeded to the bed and she entertained me with a very, very talanted BBBJ complete with lots of licking and ball sucking (no AR however). It's such a pleasure to watch a woman who not only is good at BBBJ, but obviously enjoys it. Some women are willing to do a little BJ and then move on to other things, but she was content to please/serve me for as long as I wished. We eventually moved on to other activities and spent the rest of the night snuggling in bed. The morning was a repeat performance.
We spent the next morning and afternoon exploring the city together. She confided that I was her first "guest" in four nights. She returns to the Philippines in several days...so shelf life is limited. I'd like to make her number available to anyone who is interested. Since she works out of the Wan Chai bars, not sure how you'd meet her, but when there's a will, theres a way. PM me for "May's" number and be nice to her.
[QUOTE=WebConexxion]What is the piaoke?[/QUOTE]嫖客: A coarse, but fave word of mine which doesn't have a direct English translation, so I use it as-is. Basically means "p4p customer".
[QUOTE=Jbourne1234]Can anyone recommend a place where you can find 2 bi girls?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
You will not find a prevalence of bi-girls in HK. The only semi-reliable option is the Thai girls in Neptunes. I have taken out a couple of twosomes that were into it in the past.
[QUOTE=J Lover]A brilliant post, Nghowaan, you should get a medal for this!
I am considering going over there in January, and I specifically want local gals, not MLC. I was aware of that 141 site already, but the number of gals on there charging 1500 or more is severely limited. I could only find a handful, and most of them had no pics. Could it be that because HK is so small, most local gals are too afraid to do that type of work? I'm thinking of also spending some time in Macau. I've already been there a few times, but not in recent years.
I was surprised to learn most of the pics on 141 are provided by the piaoke.[/QUOTE]If you get on the 141 website and search by "Local", you should get a lot of results. And a lot of them are dirty cheap and below $400. Some chicks *are* locals, but you should expect they are 30+. The picture usually look way younger than she actually is. I have learned my lesson the hard way.
Some others who cliam they are "locals" are actually Mainlanders who has HK ID card. They speak Cantonese with accent.
There are some young locals there, and most of them are in the range of $1200+ with no pictures provided. And they will *not* give you pictures, so don't even ask. Imagine if you are young and you are actually a local, I think you will not be stupid enough to post your picture up there to tell everyone and their friend she is a freaking hooker. They just want to make some fast cash, being a hooker is not their *primary* job.
[QUOTE=Xdentx]I'm currently in Hong Kong at the start of a multi country trip. Since the Philippines is not on my agenda, I've been focusing on the Philippina ladies of the Wan Chai bars like Laguna, Makati, and Fenwicks. I've had three LT so far, all Philippina, and all very nice, and all 1000HK for the night. However, one girl in particular stood out for her oral service. The interesting thing is that this girl is an undiscovered gem in my opinion. She's not particularly popular because she's a little shy and perhaps a 6 in looks. However, in attitude and performance, she's a 9. We began the evening with an extended shower. She was very proactive in helping me wash and probably would have been content to stay there and wash me as long as I wished. She is a spinner...about 5 feet tall, 100 lbs,and long dark hair. An "A" cup no doubt with nice responsive dark nipples. We proceeded to the bed and she entertained me with a very, very talanted BBBJ complete with lots of licking and ball sucking (no AR however). It's such a pleasure to watch a woman who not only is good at BBBJ, but obviously enjoys it. Some women are willing to do a little BJ and then move on to other things, but she was content to please/serve me for as long as I wished. We eventually moved on to other activities and spent the rest of the night snuggling in bed. The morning was a repeat performance.
We spent the next morning and afternoon exploring the city together. She confided that I was her first "guest" in four nights. She returns to the Philippines in several days...so shelf life is limited. I'd like to make her number available to anyone who is interested. Since she works out of the Wan Chai bars, not sure how you'd meet her, but when there's a will, theres a way. PM me for "May's" number and be nice to her.[/QUOTE]
Just curious, did you pick her up at Highway?
[QUOTE=JuiceGuy]Just curious, did you pick her up at Highway?[/QUOTE]
Highway is a go go bar. Ain't no way, no matter even how ugly the girl is, the price is going to be 1000HKD for LT.
[QUOTE=J Lover]嫖客: A coarse, but fave word of mine which doesn't have a direct English translation, so I use it as-is. Basically means "p4p customer".[/QUOTE]
I wonder if this is the same as the Cantonese 'pok kai', which means approximately 'sonofab*tch'...especially when used intensely...
[QUOTE=MegaPoint]I wonder if this is the same as the Cantonese 'pok kai', which means approximately 'sonofab*tch'...especially when used intensely...[/QUOTE]
No, it is in cantonese "piu4(low tone falling) haak3(middle tone)"
[QUOTE=Big Mao]Yes, I've been there during weekdays and weekends. Usually the pm of weekdays will give you lots more choices. According to the mamasan, so far as my memory serves me right, around 2-5pm. I've been unable to go for the same reason as yours. So recently I've been to Dongguan/Shenzhen more often during weekends. It needs more time, but the quality of girls makes it worthwhile![/QUOTE]
I'm in SZ this weekend, but won't have to oppurtunity to partake.
Thanks for the info re timings.
Now if only they had something like K-Pressure on HK Island. But then again if they did, prices would be higher.
Yes, I know I could go with the 141's, but for some reason I've preferred K-Pressure / 37 Dundas.
HK dog: No I found May at the Laguna or Makati. Can't remember. Have never done the go-go places. Haven't heard of the Highway.
I have a lay over in Hong Kong from 7am to 4pm.
I don't want to sit in the airport all day. What is the best bet to monger and see a little of the city. Any suggestions?
Hey Fellas,
Been a while since I've had a chance to travel abroad. I'm heading to China in a few weeks.
I'll be connecting thru HK and arriving in the evening. My connection is the next morning so I need to find a place to stay.
Does anybody know of a good but cheap hotel near the HK airport? If not, any recommendations for hotels in Mongkok?
Thanks y'all!
BB
I've made a number of contributions to this site over the years. I have a very specific question - I hope someone can help me out.
I was wondering if there is any activity at Laguna in the late afternoons on Fridays or Mondays (non-holiday days)? I went to Laguna about 4 years ago on a Monday afternoon and there were about 15 domestic helpers dancing there. Is it still the case that there is some light activity during the daytime (4-6PM) during the week?
[QUOTE=Race Track]I've made a number of contributions to this site over the years. I have a very specific question - I hope someone can help me out.[/quote]Its still the case!! More on Fridays than Mondays! Packed on Sundays!
[QUOTE=Race Track]
I was wondering if there is any activity at Laguna in the late afternoons on Fridays or Mondays (non-holiday days)? I went to Laguna about 4 years ago on a Monday afternoon and there were about 15 domestic helpers dancing there. Is it still the case that there is some light activity during the daytime (4-6PM) during the week?[/QUOTE]
Those time slots are excellent if you and your mates are up for a game of 'hogging'. Look it up if you don't know the rules.
I am coming to the end of a weeks mongering in HK which I will report on later but the following story is strange - at least to me. I contacted zdentx (see his concise report No. 1294) to get the phone number of May which he kindly supplied and I phoned her and arranged to meet her in Fenwicks last night. Through txts etc I finally located her in Fenwicks - those of you who have been there will know tht is not the easiest of things to do as it was very busy. When I eye-balled her I knew she was not for me - everyone's tastes are different - so I did not approach her but did txt her to say sorry but no (I now regret this as I should have least have at least spoken to her but I did not want to build up expectations on her part).
A couple of hours later I got one of about 6 txts from "Jane" asking if I wanted to meet a girl. Intrigued, I asked how she got my name but she would not say. Further intrigued, I agreed to meet her and her friend outside Amazonia in about 1/2 hour time. I'm reasonably street wise and when I got a further text from her I suggested meeting outside the bar in the street. She told me what she would be wearing so I would recognise her and eventually she came up to me with a young pretty girl. She asked to confirm my name which I denied initially but she was sharp enough to have dialled my cell phone and of course it rang in front of her. Don't ask me why but I suspected a scam/set up. She asked me if I liked her friend - very pretty but looked about 14 although she said she was 22. I told Jane I was not interested as nice as possible - I would have taken Jane but she told me she was not a prostitute. Then about 4/5 other very young girls suddenly appeared on the scene and I decided to take my leave. Two more calls were then made to me by Jane calling me all sorts of bastards etc. One of the calls came early in the following morningm when I was entertaining and this did not go down too well as she was a regular of mine.
I now suspect she was an agent touting for business for her girls but I prefer to make my own selection based on looks dress etc.
Did I do wrong?
Further to the report below, I got another call from "Jane" and arranged to meet her for a coffee in Times Square. I was right - she is the agent for 10 girls and looks after them. She was curious as to how I got May's phone number and I explained the position - she had never heard of the ISG site but I did confirm that "May" had given her permision for the number to be released. We had a very enjoyable 2 hour coffee break and she provided me with a lot of useful information on the sex scene in HK - more later. Suffice to say all girls in Fenwicks and Neptune are WG's and their price varies consiiderably depending on supply and demand but it is unlikely that a visitor will get LT for less than HK$1000. One of the girls I met earlier in the week told me she never went for less than $2000 and that she had no problem getting this. She simply did not go out for less - more about her in a later report but she was a stunner.
I have arranged to meet "Jane" and one of her girls later (at her suggestion)in the day and will see what transpires. At least the air has been cleared.
If anyone wants to contact "Jane" direct for one of her girls then I can PM the number. As I am still regarded as a bastard because of last night, I am hoping to rectify this.
How does it work with the hotel reservation girls on s_x141, do you book a hotel or you ring them & they take you to one of those hourly places?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]... she had never heard of the ISG site ...[/QUOTE]Jack, I hope you didn't release the ISG site details to this lady?
Cheers,
Goober
Looking for what price ranges I should be shooting for ST and LT when mongering in Neptune, Lagunas, etc.
I've read the threads and it seems folks are saying 500-700HK is a good price for ST. Is that about right?
I haven't been to HK for a while and visiting pretty soon.
Thanks for any advice and you gotta love this forum! It rocks!
[QUOTE=Uncle Goober]Jack, I hope you didn't release the ISG site details to this lady?
Lets face it - she can access the site in the same way as anyone can if she wants.
She did make a comment she might use it as a vehicle to supply/advertise her girls to potential punters. After all, one of her girls gave permission to be contacted through the site.
Overall I don't think any harm has been done.
How does it work with the hotel reservation girls on s_x141, do you book a hotel or you ring them & they take you to one of those hourly places?
I have used the hotel reservations. I phone the number - usually a male voice answers. I tell him who I want and that I would like her to visit my hotel, giving the details. I have never had a problem although at times the girl you want is not available at the time you want. At least you have an opportunity to view his suggested replacement before agreeing. They phone you at the hotel to check you are a resident and just before the girl arrives. My experience is that they send "better quality" in case you send them back. Expect to add something for the taxi fare. None I have had spoke any English, no kissing and limited touching. Otherwise no problem. Some stunners have been sent and great service with the exagerated moaning.
I gather the other alternative is for you to be directed to the hotel the girl is in but I have never used this service. As far as I know ther is no problem with this arrangment. After all, if you don't like her, you don't need to continue.
Hope this helps.
[QUOTE=Jackthelad2][QUOTE=Uncle Goober]
She did make a comment she might use it as a vehicle to supply/advertise her girls to potential punters. After all, one of her girls gave permission to be contacted through the site.
Overall I don't think any harm has been done.[/QUOTE]
I was under the impression that this is flagrantly against the rules of the site.
[QUOTE=Jackthelad2] Lets face it - she can access the site in the same way as anyone can if she wants.[/QUOTE]Jack. We will have to agree to disagree on this one.
This site is for mongers. Not for the agents. If agents start to use the site, the quality and veracity of posts becomes suspect. If girls start visiting the site, the number and quality of photos dries up. Nothing good ever comes of letting the girls know that the site exists or how to access it.
Anyways. What is done is done.
Cheers, Goober
PS. I always enjoy your reports. Keep up the good work.
I wrote this on another forum so if you belong to both, you'll see this twice!
I finally made it to HK and although I managed to have a good experience earlier, I’ll write about it later since I have to get this off my chest. I almost feel that I have a duty to report this girl. In my opinion, she should not be in this business.
I was relaxing in my hotel room this afternoon and I was debating about whether I should try one of the 141 gals or invite "Sexy" to come for a visit. I had read 2 reviews about this girl. One of them was quite negative but the other was the opposite. After looking at her info and focusing on the positive review, I decided to call her up. I just had to find out for myself! I should have known better.
I called her number and was told that for an additional $200, she would be available to come to my hotel later in the afternoon. I agreed and she came at the scheduled time. To start with, I wasn’t sure the girl who showed up was her so I questioned her about it. She assured me that it was really her. I did see some similarities so it could very well have been her although the girl who came to my room seemed to have bigger tits than the girl in the photos. She also had a tooth on the left side of her mouth which needed some work and I don’t think that’s obvious with the girl whose photos appear on the web. Photoshop pisses me off sometimes!
I was horny so I said ok, what the hell. As soon as she saw my dick, she said "too big". I’m sure I’m no bigger than average so it went downhill from there. In the shower, she kept repeating that I was too big. She spent more time lathering herself up than me.
We made our way to the bed where she quickly licked my nipples, then quickly put the rubber on me, then quickly took my dick in her mouth for a few seconds and then inserted it in her well lubricated pussy. Did I mention I hate these fu***** lubricants? Almost immediately, she started with the fakest fu***** moans I’ve ever heard and she’s telling me to hurry! That was a real turn-off for me. I lost my erection and I knew this wasn’t going to work for me. I took the rubber off and told her to put her clothes on and leave. She seemed surprised so I told her that if she wanted to be in this business, she needed to at least put some effort into learning how to please a customer.
Now that I had told her to leave, I had to decide what to do next. By this time, she had only been with me for 15 minutes including intro time and shower. Do I refuse to pay her? I’m in a new city, don’t know anyone here and she knows where I am so I figured I had to give her something. I offered her $500 but she told me how $1000 was not much money for her "services". She spoke English but not well and I didn’t want to start debating what she did and/or didn’t do. I decided it was worth $1000 to get her to leave so I gave it to her and opened the door.
I was really pissed and I figured I should at least call the person who handled her book so I called her number after she left. Who answers? She did! I hung up.
I know full well that YMMV but after my experience, I know how the other negative poster felt and although the girl I saw may be fully capable of making some guys happy (she had a real nice pair of tits), I would caution anyone else who might be tempted by her ad to go for it at your own peril.
I don't think I can add her link here but I can add what she advertises on her ad. She advertises herself as 19 yrs old, 5'6", 34c and goes for $800.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
[QUOTE=Hk Dog][QUOTE=Jackthelad2]
I was under the impression that this is flagrantly against the rules of the site.[/QUOTE]
There are rules on not posting email addresses, phone nos., but there are also quite some specific "advertising" sections in many countries in here.
So... There are rules..and there are rules!
[QUOTE=Timps]I have a lay over in Hong Kong from 7am to 4pm.
I don't want to sit in the airport all day. What is the best bet to monger and see a little of the city. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
Take the airport express train to TST, take a cab or metro to Nathan Rd area nearby the Holiday Inn and you will not be far from a mongering area.
Have a breakfast! and then be ready for the action.
Plenty of information on that location and what services are offered if you RTFF.
Set your alarm clock to leave in time to catch your 4pm flight so that you do not pass the check in time getting some BJ quite far away from the flight gate!
Enjoy!
[QUOTE=Timps]I have a lay over in Hong Kong from 7am to 4pm.
I don't want to sit in the airport all day. What is the best bet to monger and see a little of the city. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bionicman]Take the airport express train to TST, take a cab or metro to Nathan Rd area nearby the Holiday Inn and you will not be far from a mongering area.
Have a breakfast! and then be ready for the action.Plenty of information on that location and what services are offered if you RTFF.
Set your alarm clock to leave in time to catch your 4pm flight so that you do not pass the check in time getting some BJ quite far away from the flight gate!
Enjoy![/QUOTE]
I agree with Bionicman, plenty of time for some mongering, but you'll have to RTFF to have all the info ready to go. If not, then you don't have enough time to randomly fish for some 'tang. There are acutally several entertaining posts over the last year that discuss such a game to get as much mongering in between flights as humanly possible. Some advice: no Wanchai bar action available at that hour, saunas sometimes are 24 hours, but often less quantity, possible less quality at early hours. Same applies to 141 situation. Best bet is to hit the Shanghai, MongKok, Nathan street locales early; then hit K and 37D after 10AM. That way you can get at least two rounds in before heading back to the airport. In terms of sightseeing, there are great pictures on the internet that will suffice. And you can eat on the plane... :)
Cheers, have a great time
This will be my first trip to HK, anyone can recommended a good hotel in midle range (around $70-80) close to action?
I don't want to get in trouble so I may as well ask the question. The rules say posting photos from escort websites is ok but it's not clear if that means from an individual escort's site or from a group site like 141.
Guidance please.
[QUOTE=Hklover]Looking for what price ranges I should be shooting for ST and LT when mongering in Neptune, Lagunas, etc.[/QUOTE]
For a Thai or Flip, I think 500 for short time is acceptable to most of them, unless they are really stunning.
2 years back, I had a quickie with a 22 year old Filipina from Neptune 2 for only 300 HKD. She was coming on to me strongly, and 300 was all I had in my pocket, so I offered that to her thinking she would then leave me alone. However, she persisted. I stuck to my guns, and after a while she agreed the price! She was happy to repeat the experience for the same price a week later too.
[QUOTE=Scribe]For a Thai or Flip, I think 500 for short time is acceptable to most of them, unless they are really stunning.
.[/QUOTE]
There aren't many 'stunning' flippers in tunes but I may be jaded. No self respecting Thai would ever go ST for 500 due to loss of face. There may be some Thai who will do it but she would most probably have the looks of someone who should pay you!
I was wandering from bar to bar Wednesday night and was having a hard time finding what I wanted. I went to Fenwicks, then Neptunes, Highway, Fire House, and Joe Bananas. I must have hit Fenwicks, Neptunes and Joey B's at least 5 or 6 times. I even hit New Makati once (It was totally dead). Damn was I being picky.
Here is my rundown. New Makati, Fire House, and Highway were totally dead. Firehouse (unfortunately the shower was not working) had a few nice lookers, but you could tell they were hardened as hell. Definitely no GFE experience. At one point, I was the only guy in there.
I was the only person in Highway. They had 3 girls total. Slim pickings.
I was very surprised that Joe Bananas had almost no working girls. There were a few, but not like the last time I was there.
Fenwicks and Neptunes were happening, but, overall, the girls were not amazing. Interestingly there were only 3-4 Colombian girls working at Fenwicks. Someone told me the Police want to shut Fenwicks down because the Colombian girls keep selling cocaine out of there. There have been several police raids in the past few weeks, according to my friend, and many of the Colombian girls were arrested.
Anyway, I kept going from bar to bar, with a couple stops at Ebenezers for some energy, for several hours. About 2:00 AM this pretty filipino girl with braces (she is 27) approached me. She was REALLY cute. She wanted 2000 HK for LT.
We went back to my hotel and she absolutely provided the best GFE experience. Massage, back scratch, BBBJ, DATY (which she totally loved and was very forceful about it pushing my head deeper and deeper), FS in multiple positions. The only thing she would not do was A, but that was fine.
Once we finished she turned into the GFE, massaging and scratching my body until I fell asleep. I took her number I told her that I would call her on Thursday. She didn't believe me. I called around 4:30 on Thursday and arranged to meet at my hotel at 7:00. She was actually early! That has never happened to me. In fact, I am still waiting for the girl I called Tuesday night in Bangkok to show up. Obviously she was too drunk to find the hotel.
Anyway, Sandra and I had a blast Thursday night again. Had dinner together, watched some TV (her English was PERFECT). Repeated everything from the night before. Great, great BBBJ. She even gave me the scoop on how many guys the better looking girls have sex with each night. She said it is usually about 3 ST per night. When everyone was in to watch the Rugby championships a few months ago, her friend was doing 7 ST a night. She said she hurt like hell in the morning. I wonder why. LOL
Anyway, I would recommend Sandra from the Philippines to anyone in HK. Lots of fun a great in the sack.
When I visited China many of the hotels have ladies in the lobby or bar areas. Does anyone here know if the same is true for places like the Peninsula in Kowloon or if that is simple not going to happen there? What about the Sheraton across the street. It would be nice to find something nice in Kowloon and not have to go to Wan Chai or other areas.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Back in HK after several business trips and eager to get going and get reporting!
Already been to 37D. Avoid Bo Yee. Not very enthusiastic for a 37D girl, and didn't seem to enjoy it so much. Wanted to hurry. Unusual for 37D. I should have chosen Ah Mei, who was making eyes at me during the selection process. I'll try to find her again and report.
Anyone know of a YS where I can get Flippers/Malays? Been a while since I had a Flipper but I hate the rigamarole of the WC bars. I want to fuck, pay and leave.
Thanks guys!
Heading to HK next week.
Do you get a lineup and choose the girl you want at 37D?
[QUOTE=Timewaster]Heading to HK next week.
Do you get a lineup and choose the girl you want at 37D?[/QUOTE]They'll send in one girl at time to sit and chat with you. Then it's up to you to decide which you prefer. The last time I was there, it was a busy night and they only had one girl available for me. The manager was very honest and said if I wasn't comfortable with not having a choice, he'd understand. I went with the only unoccupied girl at the time and she was great. Young, sweet, and eager to please. Thanks to everyone on this forum for the tips.
As a tourist, can you buy Prepaid SIMs in Hong Kong for cash, i.e. without a local bank account or local address?
What are the denominations?
How much is a local call to a mobile?
Where are the SIM sold?
Reason for asking is, that in some countries in Europe, one needs a bank account and an address, in order to purchase the first one, i.e. the phone number. (Before someone flames me, I do know that there are workarounds, but they are bothersome)
Anyway, I would recommend Sandra from the Philippines to anyone in HK. Lots of fun a great in the sack.[/QUOTE]
By any chance does she spell her name "Zandra" as well as "Sandra" as I had met a girl with this name on the Friday before you and had a fantastic time but in the morning the enthusiasm had waned quite a bit. I had met her last March also when in HK and had kept in touch with her. She also used the name "Alexandra"
I have already written a few comments earlier, some of which have drawn comment. First of all advertising is allowed as far as I can see - look, for example, at the UK forum and it is full of adverts. Today in a report, the famous LadyMarmalade parties get a mention. All I was trying to say was that an agent thought it was a good idea if a punter wanted a girl - she looks after/organises 10 of them - if they contacted her she would fix up a meeting. The cost would be purely between the punter and the girl. In HK this would be in the region of HK$1000 LT. As for not telling the girls about ISG site - it is in the public domain and I know many even contribute. Anyway we agree to disagree on this.
I arrived Thursday 6th December via Dubai from the UK. Straight to hotel in Kowloon, shower, change and make my way to Fenwicks. When over in March I met a girl Sandra, had a great time with her and kept in touch by e-mail. She arrived on the same day from the Phil and had indicated she wanted to stay with me for the week at my hotel. No problem about this but this would tie me down I thought, so I arranged to meet her at Fenwicks. This we duly did and had a few drinks and then returned to the hotel. Suffice to say nothing was a problem - all positions, GFE, mish, DATY, doggie, etc but I detected in the morning somewhat less enthusiasm so I thought no way is she staying for a week. Parted with the agreed $1000 and a promise I would see her later. Surprisingly she did not mention staying at the hotel. Had a look round the 141 places in the afternoon. There was a building round the corner (New Lucky House) that had about 30 girls listed. Never been to one before but took the advice of the forum, went up to the top floor and made my way down. Plenty of signs on the doors so you can't go wrong. Although on my own I felt reasonably safe and a few punters were about who were quite chatty and showed me where to go. I rang several bells (door ones that is) and spoke to a few girls although communication was difficult as none speak English. I had a list with me of the girls but the list did not correspond to the girl in the flat many times. Quality overall varied from 4 - 7 but not too bad.
Made my way to Wan Chai later with a bunch of lads I was with. I like Fenwicks mainly because you can't fail there. I'm not one for making the first move normally because in Fenwicks, stand for 10 seconds at the bar near the back door and you will be approached, Nothing surer. You then decide yes or no. However I still had an arrangment to meet Sandra in Tunes so I went over there. Lo and behold she gas a punter. Relief to me and all I get from her was the cold shoulder. Ironically I knew the girl sitting right next to her (Joy) from a previous visit to HK and was tempted but decided to see what else was on offer. Back to Fenwicks. There she is a the bar, on her own. An 8.5 in my book (I am a hard marker). This time I unusually make a move with the time honored "Hi". Quiet response but started to chat and I bought her a drink. Things started to get better and I suggested a walk round to Galaxy which is much quieter and has a great band. She agrees and when I get there I am greeted like a long lost friend by the Manager who remembered me from earlier in the year. This impresses madam. Even more when I am shown to a seat where one of my friends has met a young lady. A round of free drinks are put up by the bar (it shows to frequent a place pays dividends now and again). Come the bewitching hour I ask Renzie (her name) if she would like to come back to my hotel. No problem. I always say "How much is this going to cost me?" She asks how much do I want to pay. I say HK$1000 LT and she agrees. Off we all go. I tell you guys this was unbelievable. Everything you could wish for and more. For me, you also must get GFE otherwise something is missing. I certainly got it. Interestingly she has to return to Phil the next day because her visa runs out. She added she never goes for less that $2000 and she always gets it. She never goes with Asians or blacks (please - I am not a racist, just reporting the facts) and she can make plenty in drinks. During the rugby sevens she and others can make $1000 a night. Many choose to do this and don't have tpo go with punters for sex. The best payers are Germans and English. One German punter gave her $7000 for one night! When I asked why she only took $1000 from me, she said she liked me, I had bought her a couple of drinks and was "nice" to her. There you go. I'm sorry she is not going to be there the next night but we exchange e-mail addresses and off she goes.
Don't worry guys - things get better as you will see in the next report which included LE raids in Fenwicks and Galaxy.
[QUOTE=Daddy San]As a tourist, can you buy Prepaid SIMs in Hong Kong for cash, i.e. without a local bank account or local address?
What are the denominations?
How much is a local call to a mobile?
Where are the SIM sold?
Reason for asking is, that in some countries in Europe, one needs a bank account and an address, in order to purchase the first one, i.e. the phone number. (Before someone flames me, I do know that there are workarounds, but they are bothersome)[/QUOTE]After the excellent report from Jackthelad2 I almost don't want to answer a general question not to spoil the atmosphere, but here we go: In HK all you need is a 7/11 and the fees are so low that there is no need to mention it.
[QUOTE=Daddy San]As a tourist, can you buy Prepaid SIMs in Hong Kong for cash, i.e. without a local bank account or local address?
What are the denominations?
How much is a local call to a mobile?
Where are the SIM sold?
[/QUOTE]
Saw your posts splattered through Asia - go to prepaidgsm.net for complete (but not updated) list of providers and general cost.
Thailand, HK, China, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Taiwan - need a passport in some cases but most times just cash will do. I've got one for each country, almost all are pre-paid and as long as they're topped off, will last 6-12 months (except Malaysia, needs quarterly top offs).
Hi guys,
Just wondering where would be the best place in hk to go during the day to find a hot filipina,thai,or indonesian girl to spend the afternoon with?
Any phone number or reference for me?
[QUOTE=Benjao]Hi guys,
Just wondering where would be the best place in hk to go during the day to find a hot filipina,thai,or indonesian girl to spend the afternoon with?
Any phone number or reference for me?[/QUOTE]If you had read the forum a bit you would know that they only have sundays off. Since it is abit too late now (Already 3:30pm) I don't expect you to read and get there too late. Head for Laguna or New Makati in Wan Chai right now and you are in the middle of the action. (Don't search for it, go and ask someone for directions once there). They start returning home around 6 pm.
I'm just now in Hong Kong and -totally unscheduled- have a free evening.
If anybody is in HKG right now and wants to join me for happy mongering please give me a PM. Will leave my hotel in Mongkok in 45 mins.
whomer
Sorry but I was talikng about week day as I cannot be there on week end.
I must keep a note of what I do, who I do and where I go as I have lost a day in my HK travels – Saturday. There is no way I was resting so I have not a clue what happened – must have been good.
Paid a visit to Galaxy in Sunday afternoon for a quiet beer. This place is usually quiet but you could hardly get near it. Hundreds of young Indonesians having an absolute ball. The oldest looked about 12 but obviously must have been older. Average height was well under 5 feet. Most in the 1-2 category and that is being kind. Dress sense was non existent, but were they enjoying themselves. As for mongering, forget it. Laguna has to be a better place.
At night returned about 11pm. Place was dead. 15 people in it –, 3 men and 12 women. I had just looked in Fenwicks and it was not much better. My mate has a theory that 4 in 5 girls go home at night with nobody – he could be right. Fenwicks in particular always seems to have more girls than men, IMHO, with the same ration in Tunes.
Anyway this girl comes up and says “Good evening Sir, my name is “F…”. How are you today” Words that were to change for me the next five days in HK. Starts chatting the usual crap and I asked her age. I always ask – there is no way I am going to be caught with someone at or near the minimum age. More than often they say “what age do you think I am? I reply (taking the obligatory 4/5 years off what you really think) about 22. She laughs and says 38. I don’t believe her, tell her so and out comes the passport. Sure enough – born in 1969.
Cutting out all the bullshit, she agrees to come back to my hotel for my $1000 LT limit.
What a night – probably the best ever. Starts with the combined shower and I know I have won a watch. Everything you could ask for except anal which I am not really into anyway. GFE in spades, kissing, DATY, mish, doggy, cowgirl – the lot. Wakes me at 6am for more and again at about 9.00am. I’m totally bushed. Thank god for help from Vit V. Before each session she is in showering making sure she is clean. We shower again in the morning. She even put the toothpaste on my brush and fills the tumbler with water. My wife had not done that ever in 35 years. She even insists on drying me first.
Not one for letting such a prize get away we arrange to meet the following night. Took her to Dusk till Dawn for a change because of the great bands there. Was in Fenwicks for a short time just as it got raided but the LE were only looking at the passports. Men were not even bothered by them. The dogs were obviously looking for drugs. We then paid a visit to Galaxy, her favourite place. Would you believe – raided but again no problem for men. Back to the hotel – not the same level of performance – better. I am starting to get hooked. And so it continued until I left at midnight on Thursday. We started of with an early meal in an Italian restaurant in Knutsford Terr. By this time I have given her a room key. She changed in the room and I can only say she looked stunning. After the meal back to the hotel for our last session before being picked up at 10.00pm. The night was only “spoiled” by the tears from her about me leaving.
I have read many stories in the various forums about guys that get hooked on the girls,. I’m not daft – I know they are interested in one thing only – your money. I will concede they are very good at disguising this undisputed fact, however. I parted with $5000 over the few days with “F….”. On the last two occasions she did not want the money and I had to insist on her taking it. She has 2 children back in Manila and has no alternative but to do what she does. I was the 1st guy she had sex with in 4 weeks. Normally she makes enough from the drinks in the bar to avoid having sex – no less that $500 per night which she wires home the next day – she showed me a pile of the white Western credit pay in slips. Another thing in my favour is that she, and the others, prefer older men. What I have learned over the years is that in their culture and in some others, age does not play a part as it does in Western socities.
Can you fall for them? Its difficult not to get emotionally involved, particularly when you seem to have struck a chord with them. Some of the past reports from guys that have become smitten are heart rendering. Before I leave she gives me her e-mail address and a small gift. On the way to the airport I get 2 texts from her and since my return home 2 e-mails and a phone call. She is missing me. No wonder guys fall for them. My experiences indicate a servile type nature. She insisted in doing everything for me – even folded my socks and put them away. She handed me my napkin in the restaurant and wiped my lips when needed. She caught me taking medicine one morning, was inquisitive as to why and even in her e-mails is reminding me to take it! I ask you. As a side issue, in the same restaurant there were 4 other couples having a meal at the same time. Everyone was an older guy with a young flipper.
I am returning in February – what’s the bets she will be waiting for me?
I have always held the view that you have to treat them with respect, Be nice to them and they will be nice to you. They are vulnerable people with really nothing much to live for. My “F….” was married and lived in Tokyo for 10 years. When she had her 2nd child the husband bombed her out and she had to return to Phil to live with her parents. No contact since, nor any money.
In between times during the day, my mate and I paid a visit to one of the many MSP's in Temple street. In the second I went for the HJ. A pretty young Chinese girl with the smallest of mini skirts gave me a good massage, allowing me to have my hand up and down her leg and all over the place the whole time. When it came to a finish, I was all over her pussy, backside and tits. All for $250.
Can’t be bad.
Roll on February.
Been a while since I have been to Hong Kong, although the forum helped me a lot a few years back when I ended up staying in HK for 6 weeks and I still have the filipino "Hellllo Sirrrrrr" ringing in my ears :)
Having read through the forum and got lots of updated info, I wonder if I can ask for a bit of advice for a planned trip in 2 weeks time with 3 clients who have never been to HK and ones that I have promised the best time of their life.
a, Absolute best Sauna/Bath House in HK (I read Jordan / K Pressure / 37 Dundas) however is there anything mind mind blowing in terms of decor, service and experience.
b, KTVs , my favourite and only 1 I have been to is New Paris Club, and I am quite happy with what 1 gets there in terms of quality and service, in face I have kinda dated 2 of the girls from there in the past, however reading between the lines in the forum I sense that there are some better places for Chinese Big Spenders (I am NOT chinese but speak Mandarin so usually have no probs getting into ChinaMan only places)
And I apologise if it sounds like all I wanna do is blow money, far from it, just quite happy to look after these guys as they enjoy the finer things in life just like the rest of us ...
I shall be taking em on the usual crawl in WanChai just for the sheer fun of it, but seriously the Filipino squeeky voice and Hello Sir is still ringing in my ears
Thanks in Advance
[QUOTE=Wild Child 1]Been a while since I have been to Hong Kong, although the forum helped me a lot a few years back when I ended up staying in HK for 6 weeks and I still have the filipino "Hellllo Sirrrrrr" ringing in my ears :)
Having read through the forum and got lots of updated info, I wonder if I can ask for a bit of advice for a planned trip in 2 weeks time with 3 clients who have never been to HK and ones that I have promised the best time of their life.
a, Absolute best Sauna/Bath House in HK (I read Jordan / K Pressure / 37 Dundas) however is there anything mind mind blowing in terms of decor, service and experience.
b, KTVs , my favourite and only 1 I have been to is New Paris Club, and I am quite happy with what 1 gets there in terms of quality and service, in face I have kinda dated 2 of the girls from there in the past, however reading between the lines in the forum I sense that there are some better places for Chinese Big Spenders (I am NOT chinese but speak Mandarin so usually have no probs getting into ChinaMan only places)
And I apologise if it sounds like all I wanna do is blow money, far from it, just quite happy to look after these guys as they enjoy the finer things in life just like the rest of us ...
I shall be taking em on the usual crawl in WanChai just for the sheer fun of it, but seriously the Filipino squeeky voice and Hello Sir is still ringing in my ears
Thanks in Advance[/QUOTE]
If you have promised them to have the time of their life, want it affordable and don't want to get messed up in China, I suggest that you take an evening in Macau. It's a bit over an hour's boat ride with boats running 24 hours, from 7am to 1:30 am almost every 15 minutes. And in Macau itself everything is reachable within minutes.
You can buy packages that include Sauna or KTV and the ticket fare. See the Macau thread for details.
[QUOTE=Tiger 888]If you have promised them to have the time of their life, want it affordable and don't want to get messed up in China, I suggest that you take an evening in Macau. It's a bit over an hour's boat ride with boats running 24 hours, from 7am to 1:30 am almost every 15 minutes. And in Macau itself everything is reachable within minutes.
You can buy packages that include Sauna or KTV and the ticket fare. See the Macau thread for details.[/QUOTE]I would concur. If you're looking for the "bling-bling" factor, you can get far more in terms of service/quality by going to Macau or Dongguan without necessarily paying that much more.
Sauna's in Macau are FAR better than anything you can find in HK. While New Paris KTV is decent, the one's which I've been to in DG put it to shame (never been to a Macau KTV).
HK for me is more about convenience. Can't be running over to Macau or DG all the time, do it more as a personal treat. If you must stay in HK, then I personally prefer Ocean King in North Point (sauna).
[QUOTE=Tiger 888]If you have promised them to have the time of their life, want it affordable and don't want to get messed up in China, I suggest that you take an evening in Macau. It's a bit over an hour's boat ride with boats running 24 hours, from 7am to 1:30 am almost every 15 minutes. And in Macau itself everything is reachable within minutes.
You can buy packages that include Sauna or KTV and the ticket fare. See the Macau thread for details.[/QUOTE]
Tiger 888
Macau is defo on the agenda, and I have been reading up there and seems like 18 or RIO are the places to go, along with a visit to Darlings and possibly 1 of the clubs, or am I missing something.
Their tour is Shanghai, Hong Kong and Macau ...
On one of the evenings I was in Fennies last week I saw an old guy come in with an entourage of young "heavies" surrounding him. He looked like some kind of Chicago Mafia boss. Smart casual and VERY expensive-looking
The staff all seemend to know him and fawned around him. He took a drink and eyed the girls up and down and spoke to a couple of them - all south Americans. They seemed to know him. Suddenly they left as quick as they arrived but I did not see any girls leave with them.
A guy sitting beside me at the bar said he was the Saudi head of delegation or consul or something and that he is coming into such bars regularly.
Surprizing that such person woud come to a girlie bar but I suppose the urge is strong whoever you are.
Back in US of A now and missing Asia, like I always do. Happy days. (Back in February for more fun, though. I can't wait.)
PE
I had some interesting conversations with two Philippina ladies which I employed long time from the Wan Chai district bars regarding the agent/manager situation. Our conversations extended over a period of a couple of days. Initially they were reluctant to talk about how this system worked, but ultimately warmed to the topic and shared some interesting information. This report is based solely on information these two provided...independently of each other. I will comingle the two accounts to create a composite.
Girls who live in the Philippines, but are not necessarily WL there, find an "agent/manager" there by networking. The managers buy the girls a round trip plane ticket to Hong Kong. The agent/manager travels frequently between the Philippines and Hong Kong, usually escorting the new girls to HK. In this case the agent is a female. The new girls are expected to pay back the agent $4000 HK for their plane ticket. They pay $50 HK per day directly to the flat owners for their room. These two girls decribed very similar flats in Wan Chai which consisted of two bedrooms and a "salon" (living room). Currently there are 15 girls living in each place. The owners of the flat, a married couple, use one bedroom. The girls, who don't get employed overnight, have to share the remaining space. Multiple bunkbeds are provided. Gnerally, two girls share one mattress with a total of four per bunk. There is only one bathroom with a shower for the girls. The girl telling the story laughed as she told me that sometimes 3 of the girls have to shower together because they're all going out around the same time in the evening. Everyone keeps their belongings and earnings in a locked suitcase. Alternatively they keep their earnings in their purse, which they carry with them at all times...even to the bathroom.
The agent or manager runs the place and tells the girls when to get showered, dressed, and out. The girls are expected to pay the agent half of their earnings daily, until the $4000 HK is paid off. Once the debt is paid, the girls become "freelancers". The girls are also responsible for buying their own food. The agent keeps close tabs on the girls who owe money for their ticket (which the agent holds). The girls are allowed to keep their own passports. The agent wants to make sure that she gets her 50% before the girl spends the money on herself or sends it home. The agent knows, of course, who had an "overnight". During my morning sightseeing with my "date", the agent called her literally five times to ask/tell her to bring home the money.
Once a girl has paid off the $4000 "ticket" the agent no longer keeps close tabs on her. Of the 15 girls, the 3 most experienced might do 4 short times per night. The less experienced/attractive girls might not have any work for 4 days.
There are always girls coming and going, due to the 14 day visa requirement. In this case, the agent/manager is close friends with the ticket agent. The manager leaves someone in charge to oversee the operation when she has to return to the Philippines. I got the impression that this one agent always ran just the one operation and oversaw the one house. BTW, "guest" has now replaced the term "john".
One of these two girls was on her second visit to HK. She told me that she is not a working girl at home, but that her family borrowed money to help her get to Hong Kong. She laughed with embarisment when she confessed that she did not make enough to repay the debt. So now she was on her second tour, but this time with a manager. And still struggling to pay back the ticket.
Heading to HK next week.
I vaguely remember reading that 37Dundas has 2 floors with 2 different owners.
Which is the recommended floor?
The info on this board helped me prepare for my visit to HK and now I’ll try to share some info that I hope will help someone down the line.
Before I forget, thanks to my boss too for sending me on an Asian expedition and footing the bill for my “work”. I managed to get in a few meetings in between other activities so I think the new business will cover the expenses.
This was my first time chasing the beautiful women of HK and after considering the options, I was willing to spend a few extra dollars. I don’t mean I was willing to overpay (I hope I didn't) but I was prepared to expand my budget if I had to in order to enjoy myself. I considered a lot of options including the walk-up 141’s. I phoned one who hung up on me I suppose because I couldn’t communicate with her. I was also on the verge of visiting another one when I read a not so flattering report on her which made me decide not to go.
In the end, I relied on the info I got from reading this forum and on another HK board but there is one piece of info in particular that caught my eye. I was inspired by Rick Hunter’s notes about the clubs in East TST [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=421850&postcount=2838[/url] so I made that my first stop. There are a few clubs near the Hilton Tower area and I assume they all offer similar services.
I found a club that seemed like a good place to start. I walked in, was greeted by at least 3 women who passed me on from one to the other until I found myself in a room and was told that the terms would be explained to me with no obligation. The papa came in and did the explaining and asked if he could suggest a girl. I said sure.
It cost me very close to what Rick said it would. The damage was $550 to the house to start with. Basically, this is to meet the girl and pick one you like. If you decide to take the girl out, it’s another $550 to the house. The papasan told me that the going rate for the girls is $1500 for one hour but the girl I picked told me she would stay with me for 3 hours which again is bang on with what Rick had said. I picked the first one I saw (Jen 23 yr old b cup, about 5’3” and 100 lbs). She looked pretty good and had her tongue in my mouth before the papa left us alone in the “meeting room” so how could I not stick with her?
I took her back to my hotel. I won’t go into a whole lot of detail about the session itself since we all have our own opinions and preferences about what is good and what is not. I will say that she seemed to enjoy it and I know I did. Lots of dfk and dined at the Y. The total damage was $2600 for 3 hours. I know it’s possible to get laid for a lot less but at least this option gives you a good idea of what you’re going to get before you buy and she was just like a real gf. Works for me!
But there is more. She asked how long I was in town for and when she found out I was here for a few days, she offered her phone number. I told her I was going to Macau while here so she asked if I would like her to come along on her day off. How much I asked? She said “I come to your hotel in morning, make love, stay with you all day, come back to hotel, make love some more. $2000 for whole day, ok?” I figured since I had spent $2600 for around 3 hours, $2000 was ok for the whole day.
She came to the hotel at 7:30 AM and we started the day off with another roll in the sack before leaving. She took charge at the ferry terminal, got the tickets, got me through the lineups and then through customs, showed me around Macau and took good care of me, even making sure that I got some HK dollars back for Macau dollars that a cabby had given me.
When we returned, she took me to her favorite restaurant for dinner and then came back to the hotel and stayed with me until 10 PM. She was very friendly throughout, always smiling, cuddling, leaning her head on my shoulder and sneaking the occasional kiss. She had me thinking she liked me but I think it’s more likely she enjoys being with men in general. Her English was not good but we got along well anyway.
She acted like a real gf. I hadn’t been looked after like this for a long time. I don’t know how she did it. When we were eating, she would always make sure I had something on my plate. Seems she was thinking of me more than herself.
The only negative was that she didn’t give me a bj but everything else was good enough that I didn’t mind. Then again, I suppose even some real gf’s don’t give bj’s! I didn’t push it. She said she would if I saw her again. Don’t they all say that? She offered to call me the next day after work but even though I enjoyed my time with her, I declined. I wanted to sample some other delicacies.
As a side note, I hit it off with the cabbie who took me to this club area. He had spent quite a bit of time in the US so he spoke decent English. Since this club area is not far from Mongkok, the driver offered to show me some of the spots in that area. I can’t remember the street names but the area he showed me was full of massage parlors, saunas and those purple sign places I read about on this forum. For a while, I was tempted to change my mind and try one of these places but decided to stick to my original plan.
All in all, I’m happy with what I got and I want to thank Rick again for his info which worked out real well for me. If I remember right, he even offered the notes about the clubs without being prodded. It’s a relief to those of us who don’t have as much experience to occasionally have notes offered freely instead of always being told to RTFF. If not for Rick’s notes, this would likely not have been an option for me!
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
Pinays await verdict in HK on trafficking charge
SMILEY D. JULVE, GMANews.TV
12/18/2007 | 09:30 PM
Being on trial appears to have taken its toll on a Filipina accused of trafficking persons into Hong Kong. As Angelita David took the witness stand on the ninth day of hearing the case, she all but admitted the charges against her.
David is jointly charged with Jennifer N. Balibat, or Nicki, with two counts of trafficking persons into Hong Kong for the purpose of prostitution and five counts each of aiding and abetting the alleged victims to work here without valid employment visas.
David, who was referred to in court as Ampy, agreed during the cross examination of the prosecution on Dec. 13 at the District Court in Wan Chai that her role was to look for girls to work in Hong Kong which meant getting commissions from customer’s drinks and if they chose to, earn money from sex.
“Sariling diskarte na nila iyon. I didn’t tell them directly that they have to do that [have sex]."
Because of this, her defense counsel Peter Chow didn’t bother to challenge the credibility and reliability of the prosecution witnesses which relate to the aiding and abetting charges.
“Had D2 (David) told me the whole story like what she testified in court, I would not have spent so much time in cross-examining any of the PWs [prosecution witnesses] and I would have advised her to plead guilty to at least charges 3-7," he said.
But Chow submitted that the prosecution didn’t get its charge right.
This is not the case of trafficking persons for the purpose of prostitution, he said, but for fraud because of the inducement to repay the loan.
“In fact, they don’t need to find customers for sex… just drinks. They could make $1,000 a night in 12 to 14 days to repay the loan." He submitted that they would even have pocket money from their earnings.
“Prostitution was mentioned only as an option," said Chow. “In order to convict D2, the prosecution must prove beyond reasonable doubt that D2 did some act or acts to enable that these girls could work as prostitutes."
Such an act, he said for example, was introducing the girls to potential customers.
He submitted that the real intention of the defendants was for the girls to buy air tickets from them on credit and profit from it. In promoting the air tickets, the defendants “might have painted a rosy picture for them" on ways to earn in Hong Kong.
But since they couldn’t find any customers, he said, “The girls felt cheated."
Edward Laskey for the prosecution replied that it is not whether prostitution takes place, but the fact that the girls were brought to Hong Kong for that purpose is enough to find the defendants guilty. “It shall not be a defense… that the other person consented."
Five alleged victims took to stand and corroborated the story on how a certain person named Loida in the Philippines, Ampy, and Nicki were in a joint enterprise to recruit them into Hong Kong as “entertainers… to work as prostitutes." They were told to pay Php60,000 for their ticket, food, and hotel accommodations which the girls should pay by installment once they get to Hong Kong. They weren’t given food, nor did they stay in a hotel. Their one-way tickets only cost $800 apiece.
Laskey said that “it had to be pre-arranged" and it was Nicki’s role to guide the girls from the airport and make necessary accommodations. He told the court to “draw inference from that," and added, “D1 exactly knew what was going on."
In a briefing in the Philippines, Laskey said, “They were being enticed… but it was much untrue." The sweetness was used as a bait, he said. “When they come here, the situation is different… The reality either way is to work in clubs by drinks… then sex afterwards with customers."
“The divider between drinks and sex is unrealistic. Drinks were prelude to sex," claimed Laskey and submitted that this was not clearly mentioned in the briefing.
Meanwhile, the counsel for Nicki, Gordon Wong, crushed the testimonies of each witnesses and said, “The fact that they failed to mention these to the police… significantly affect their credibility."
It was not contested that Nicki picked up the girls at the airport, but Wong submitted that Nicki never briefed the girls on how to choose customers, asked them for repayment of their loans saying she lost money on buying their tickets, or threatened them by saying “send you to prison if you do not pay."
The question to be answered, he said, was whether Nicki knew that the girls were coming here as prostitutes. “Had she known, would she have rendered her assistance?"
He also went on to say that the court should be skeptical in assessing statements made by Ampy who pointed Nicki as the mastermind and said, “Clearly, D2 has her own purpose to serve."
The verdict will be out on Thursday, Dec. 20.
This is my second hotel girl. If you saw my previous post about "Sexy", you’ll know that the first one didn’t work out well but this one went quite well.
I called another TST hotel girl from the 141 site, this one goes by the name of LG. Her ad says she is 5’5" and speaks English. The girl who showed up was maybe 5’2" and she understood a little bit but couldn’t speak a word of English. She also had a tattoo of a rose between her belly and her puss and the LG on the ad does not. But she was a nice little package so I didn't complain. Don't know her name so I call her LG's pinch hitter! I'll post a photo in case someone runs into her.
I think she was quite pretty with a nice spinner figure. I’d say 5’2" 90 lbs. Skill level was so so and I think she needs to work on her BJ technique and she did not provide dfk but all in all, I was happy with her.
I asked her name and she showed me the case which held her mobile phone and it had the initials LG on it. She laughed, which led me to believe that there must be a few girls working this LG name game. When the papa called my hotel back to confirm, the hotel operator identified the caller as someone from LG company.
This girl was a little shy but still a lot friendlier than my first hotel girl. She gave me a hug when she came in, spun herself around and said ok? I think she was asking me if I thought she was ok! Yes! We fooled around for a little bit before jumping in the shower together. She washed me good and let me wash her and play a little with her pussy too. Her tits were "enhanced" (but not as big as the girl in the ad) and sensitive with nice nips that stood at attention. She gave me a few kisses but no dfk. What made my day, or night, was she was tight. I mean nice and tight but she took it like a real trouper. No fake moans here! She held on tight when I was giving it to her and she was really good at using her pussy muscles to squeeze my dick. Felt great! In the end, she was quite willing to let me splash all over her tits.
Damage was $1000. The advertised price was $700 (for LG) and the papa said another $200 for the cab to my hotel. Before she left, she was saying something that I couldn’t understand but then I realized she wanted another $100. I took the opportunity to ask for a photo. She agreed so I gave her the extra $100.
Conclusion: Not the same as the advertised LG but I think she’s pretty nice so I ain’t complaining! Had fun with her even tho we could not understand each other very well. I think if someone wanted to spend some time with this girl, she could be a real gem. Soooooooo tight! Problem is, I wouldn’t know how to get her again. If I called the number, the real LG might show up! Photo coming up in photo section.
Name: Yupi
East TST street girl 20 y/o is what she said
Related Link in 141: sorry, no link for this one
Face: 3.75/5 no raving beauty but cute, all depends what you like
Body Shape: 4/5 if you like spinners, maybe 5’ tall and 90 lbs tops, small tits but nice nipples
Skill: 3.75/5 had such a good time, I’m tempted to give her higher but realistically, this is probably fair
Service: 5/5 willing partner, tight pussy, bbbj, dfk, massage after the deed, what else can a man ask for?
Got a call tonight from the girl I took to Macau earlier in the week. She wanted to come over in the morning and stay the day (and night) but I didn’t want to commit right away. Told her I had something to do during the day but I might call her in the evening.
I went back to the club area I had been to earlier in the week in East TST with the intention of going into one of the clubs again. The cabby dropped me off in a different place but I think I recognized one of the clubs I had seen before so I thought I was in the right area. I don’t know what it’s called but there is a section that is sort of like a small park or pedestrian mall. I remember seeing a large sign for the Hilton Tower last time and I was looking for that again but couldn’t see it. Looks like the kind of place people go to hang out. Some were sitting outdoors having dinner, some just walking around.
I was walking around too, trying to find the place I had been to earlier in the week. At one point, I slowed down to look around to get my bearings when this woman approached me and asked me if I wanted a girl. I looked at her and thought no thanks but then I realized she was the mama. Turns out she had at least 2 girls. That’s all I saw. I didn’t care for the first one but the second one kind of caught my eye. I have this thing for the petite types and she fit the bill. She looked kind of cute too and I was trying to get a better look at her while listening to what the mama had to say. The more the mama talked, the more interested I became in this little cutie. Her name was Yupi and she said she was 20 yrs old. The mama wanted the money then and there. I said no way, I pay after. We went back and forth and finally she agreed. We found a cab and it was off to the hotel.
When we got to the hotel, Yupi seemed to balk at something and I realized she wanted the money. I said no way, the mama agreed I would pay after. I had a hard time explaining this to her but finally, she called the mama. I got on the phone with her and we “discussed” this matter. Mama argued that later meant when I got to the hotel with the girl. My position was that later meant when the girl went home. Finally, I told her that I was paying after the deed and that was it, all the while thinking she would insist on payment up front. Yupi hung up the phone and said ok, let’s have a shower.
She took good care of my jewels in the shower and I reciprocated by giving her a good scrub too. After a few minutes in there, we moved to the bed and the fun continued. This little thing was a real treat. She gave me a bbbj and although I can’t say it was a great one, she did her best and she looked like she was enjoying it too. I fully intended on eating her puss until I realized that she had juiced it up with lubricant. I got the towel out and cleaned it off and then fingered her until she got all wet. When she went to put the rubber on, I got my own and gave it to her. She grinned and said it was bigger than the one she was going to use.
We had a pretty good session. Well I thought so anyway and I think she did too judging from the look on face! This girl seemed to enjoy her “work”. She was a gamer for all the dfk I could handle, when she was on top and on the bottom! Her tits were just barely a handful but you can’t usually expect more with a small girl like her unless they’re fake. After the deed, she didn’t rush me to take my dick out. We just laid there hugging and kissing for a while. Then she went to clean up a bit and came back, cleaned me up and then she asked if I wanted a massage! Wow! Why not? She gave me a full massage for about 10 or 15 minutes. Holy geez, I wasn’t expecting that. Then more kissing and hugging.
I gave her the $1200 for 3 hours I had agreed on with the mama and an extra $300 for the massage, the cab back and a couple of photos although she was shy and did not want to show her face. Enjoyed myself so much I invited her back for another session the next day! The price might seem high but I really didn’t have much to compare it to. I was in an area full of clubs and I knew it cost me $2600 last time so I thought $1200 was ok for 3 hours and she turned out to be the best lay I’ve had since I’ve been here.
Conclusion: had to use the English/Mandarin dictionary to understand each other at least a few words but this was the most fun I’ve had since I got here, taught her how to say “fuck me” and have the mama’s number if anyone is interested, if you like spinners, I think you’d like this girl. She’s pretty sweet and seems to want to please. Treat her nice and she’ll do the same.
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Knock, knock, knock! It’s 10 PM. I open the door and there’s Yupi. I had been napping while waiting for her so she took off her clothes and jumped in the shower. When we finished, we lay on the bed hugging and kissing. It was a continuation of the previous night.
We had another good session but for some reason, it wasn’t quite as good as the previous night. Maybe it was because she had pulled a fast one on her mammy and had booked a date on the side with me. The biggest difference is that after doing it all over the bed, I asked her if I could finish in her mouth. She smiled and gave me the ok so I pulled out and let her have it. It was obviously not the first time for her. She laid there with her mouth open and was sticking her tongue in and out until I came. Then she licked me good without rushing but eventually went to the washroom to spit it out.
Left me $1200 poorer but still a happy man. She seemed a bit disappointed with that since I had given her $1500 the previous night but I said no photos, no more. Besides, she didn’t have to share this with her mammy. In the end, she agreed and seemed to be happy. And so was I!
[QUOTE=Le Licheur]
All in all, I’m happy with what I got and I want to thank Rick again for his info which worked out real well for me. If I remember right, he even offered the notes about the clubs without being prodded. It’s a relief to those of us who don’t have as much experience to occasionally have notes offered freely instead of always being told to RTFF. If not for Rick’s notes, this would likely not have been an option for me![/QUOTE]
My pleasure to help. I wrote the report you a refering to maybe 1 to 2 years ago to as it is a scene that is very prevalent in Hong Kong but not so easy for tourists to learn the ropes about in the short time they are usually in HK for.
[QUOTE=Xdentx]These two girls decribed very similar flats in Wan Chai which consisted of two bedrooms and a "salon" (living room). Currently there are 15 girls living in each place. The owners of the flat, a married couple, use one bedroom. The girls, who don't get employed overnight, have to share the remaining space. Multiple bunkbeds are provided. Gnerally, two girls share one mattress with a total of four per bunk. There is only one bathroom with a shower for the girls. The girl telling the story laughed as she told me that sometimes 3 of the girls have to shower together because they're all going out around the same time in the evening. Everyone keeps their belongings and earnings in a locked suitcase. Alternatively they keep their earnings in their purse, which they carry with them at all times...even to the bathroom.
[/QUOTE]
I can confirm this as I had a rather unusual experience this week in that I visited one of these places first hand for the first time. I met up with a girl on Monday night at Laguna. I called her before hand to see where I could meet her. I have seen her a few times over the past 3 or 4 months. Normally we would have a drink and then go off to a short time hotel for two or three sessions over 2 hours. I always gave her $500 to help with her rent. She has insisted that she is not a working girl but simply in Hong Kong to find a real job, of which she does not consider the servitude of committing to being a maid a real job. Of course she has done the visa runs to China and going back to her country before coming back here when that runs out.
I have played along with her that she is not hooker as to answer her question in the affirmative when she asks me would be a huge loss of face for her. Last week we met up and we had a drink in a nice place in Causewaybay before having some fun. It just kind of worked out that I did not slip anything into her pocket as when we were having the drink before hand she wanted to make sure that I did not just meet her for sex (yeah I know). To let her save face I said of course not. Regardless when we were done it just did not work out well for me to pay her.
So back to this Monday. I met her at Laguna, bought myself a drink and regular, not ladies drinks for her and a couple of her friends. It was early and this helped give her face. After doing a bit of dancing we left. She wanted to go to her place which was fairly nearby. After trying to think if there was any reason why she would want to kill and not being able to think of any other than my clothes, shoes and watch I wearing were worth more than she would make in a few year I decided against my better judgment to agree to go to her place.
The flat was rather interesting. It was in a 20something story regular housing establishment in Wan Chai. (For those not from HK most people here live in abysmal housing conditions). This flat had a hallway maybe 3 feet wide at the most. As soon as you come inside there is a super tiny washroom in the flat to one side. Further down the hallway there is a ledge with two hotplate, almost impossible to squeeze past. Once you walk past the kitchen there were 5 bedrooms, two on each side and one at the end of the hall.
She unlocked her bedroom. It was a small room with just enough space for the door to open and a double bed. At the foot of the bed was a small TV, a small fridge and a few drawers to put clothes in. On the wall by the door were the pictures of the three girls sharing the bed each night. Taped on the door of a fridge was a calendar listing when people were coming and going, along with some court dates for one girl. (The story did not seem convincing to me but one girl sharing the room had been in jail for dealing a year or two back and some expat had held her laptop while she was in jail and would not give it back when she got out. She thus decided when she saw him in a bar to take a glass and smash it into his face).
The lady told me I was the first person she had brought back to her room, which I believe. We watched the evening news on Pearl, did the deed and then went out for a bite to eat after which I went home alone, even though she offered to come with me.
It was an interesting experience but not one that I think I shall repeat. It was yet another eye opening asian experience that helps me appreciate how lucky most of us have it in life.
I do need to let this lady down as I am beginning to feel that she views me as her knight in shining armor to let her live out a Cinderella dream. I have not really done anything to really justify such a dream but best to cut things off before problems develop.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Saw your posts splattered through Asia - go to prepaidgsm.net for complete (but not updated) list of providers and general cost.
Thailand, HK, China, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Taiwan - need a passport in some cases but most times just cash will do. I've got one for each country, almost all are pre-paid and as long as they're topped off, will last 6-12 months (except Malaysia, needs quarterly top offs).[/QUOTE]If someone asked me for a passport when buying a SIM, I'd tell them to suck an egg! In Vietnam, I bought mine at the airport, no questions or ID.
in my report number 1340 dated 16th december i said:-
can you fall for them? its difficult not to get emotionally involved, particularly when you seem to have struck a chord with them. some of the past reports from guys that have become smitten are heart rendering. before i leave she gives me her e-mail address and a small gift. on the way to the airport i get 2 texts from her and since my return home 2 e-mails and a phone call. she is missing me. no wonder guys fall for them. my experiences indicate a servile type nature. she insisted in doing everything for me – even folded my socks and put them away. she handed me my napkin in the restaurant and wiped my lips when needed. she caught me taking medicine one morning, was inquisitive as to why and even in her e-mails is reminding me to take it! i ask you. as a side issue, in the same restaurant there were 4 other couples having a meal at the same time. everyone was an older guy with a young flipper.
i am returning in february – what’s the bets she will be waiting for me?
all bets are off.
following on my arrival back home e-mails, texts and phone calls continued. she missed me, she was longing for me. she loved me. crying for me to come back. "i miss you honey" reverbated around. "i will wait for you", "i don't want anothe man", "i keep myself for you".
then the "can you send some money so i can go home for christmas - i miss you honey". the warning bells peel out loudly. a short but polite "no" and the entire attidude changes. i am a proper bastard. the tone of her voice goes from a pleading, soft, loving, caressing gentle one to a bitter monotone with not a scrap of endearment.
luckily i have been through all this before so it is not the bitter pill it once was. nevertheless it is frustrating and i don't know how oftern i have said to myself "fuck and forget" rather than see the same person continually and inevitably become emotionally involved. having said that, i had the best 5 days ever with her but paid well for my enjoyment.
what do others think? fuck and forget?
at the end of the day they are like the number 9 bus, there is always another one coming.
[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]What do others think? Fuck and forget?
At the end of the day they are like the number 9 bus, there is always another one coming.[/QUOTE]As I always said:
1. Find them before they find you,
2. Fuck them before they fuck you
3. Forget them before they forget you.
Thats the hard reality of life. The exceptions are so few and those falling for them so many.
[QUOTE=Tiger 888]As I always said:
1. Find them before they find you,
2. Fuck them before they fuck you
3. Forget them before they forget you.
Thats the hard reality of life. The exceptions are so few and those falling for them so many.[/QUOTE]
Could not agree more Tiger, but it is still hard to take
Women in general are the same the world over but the flippers seem to excel in the con of making you believe you are the only one for them in the world. Don't get me wrong, we use them for our pleasures but they are good at what they do - you have to hand it to them. Over the years I have met many and had had prolonged contact vie e-mails and texts. It always invariably ends when they ask for money. I lose interest very quickly then. THey are pros in the true sense of the word.
Can't wait unti February when I return. HK is the best!
[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]
I do need to let this lady down as I am beginning to feel that she views me as her knight in shining armor to let her live out a Cinderella dream. I have not really done anything to really justify such a dream but best to cut things off before problems develop.[/QUOTE]
Interesting story Rick. Tell me, you have seen her a few times over the past 3/4 months and you give her $500. She is not working. How does she survive for the rest of the time? Living in the circumstances you describe can only lead you to the conclusion she is making money in the same way as the other girls. The very fact that she goes to Laguna would seem to back this up. As you well know you don't go there for a quiet drink with friends. Not that I am saying she is sleeping around - she may well make her money from the drinks as I know a lot of them do.
As for being her knight in shining armour, what is wrong with this? You might be giving her hope and she certainly does not seem to be demanding of you. If you like her why not continue the way you are doing but gently explain there is no long term future for her in it. I am the right one to give out advice but sometimes it is easier to give out advice than it is to receive and react to it.
Jack:
Of course she is a working girl I have been around long enough to know that. She just likes to "pretend" that she is not and I was fine to "pretend" along with her. The real story is of course she started out as a maid here in HK but being young and pretty discovered quite quickly that she did not like being a maid and could make more money selling herself. I do believe that she would like to find a "real" non maid job in Hong Kong but realistically that is not going to happen.
As for letting her think me her knight in shining armour - better to end it - I do not need the hassle. There are plenty other women around her. I do not want to lead her on too much in case she goes crazy at some point. I have been around long enough to know when it is better to just walk away.
[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]Interesting story Rick. Tell me, you have seen her a few times over the past 3/4 months and you give her $500. She is not working. How does she survive for the rest of the time? Living in the circumstances you describe can only lead you to the conclusion she is making money in the same way as the other girls. The very fact that she goes to Laguna would seem to back this up. As you well know you don't go there for a quiet drink with friends. Not that I am saying she is sleeping around - she may well make her money from the drinks as I know a lot of them do.
As for being her knight in shining armour, what is wrong with this? You might be giving her hope and she certainly does not seem to be demanding of you. If you like her why not continue the way you are doing but gently explain there is no long term future for her in it. I am the right one to give out advice but sometimes it is easier to give out advice than it is to receive and react to it.[/QUOTE]
[quote=jackthelad2]i am returning in february – what’s the bets she will be waiting for me?
all bets are off.
following on my arrival back home e-mails, texts and phone calls continued. she missed me, she was longing for me. she loved me. crying for me to come back. "i miss you honey" reverbated around. "i will wait for you", "i don't want anothe man", "i keep myself for you".
then the "can you send some money so i can go home for christmas - i miss you honey". the warning bells peel out loudly. a short but polite "no" and the entire attidude changes. i am a proper bastard. the tone of her voice goes from a pleading, soft, loving, caressing gentle one to a bitter monotone with not a scrap of endearment.[/quote]guess what readers - my girl is back. suddenly she misses me again and is longing to see me in february when i return.
should i?
should i ignore her?
should i tell her "f... off?"
or should i renew a visit to the best 5 days of sex i have ever had in a fairly long career, now assisted in no small way by vit v?
my heart says go for it. my mind says "plenty of other fish in the sea & variety is the spice of life". forget her.
what do the readers say?
Hi Brothers,
Where would be the best place to enjoy a week day afternoon and meet some filipino thai or indonesian girl to have some fun with?
Hi,
Does anybody know if/where/how I find nice, affordable, shaved, young (20-25) girls in Hongkong when I stay only 2 nights?
Where does it happen? In my hotel room (unobtrusive) or in a club or so?
Thanks for your help,
D.
Guys,
There was a post about a girl named Anna or Enna at Flat #3, 1/F, Coronet Court, 323 Kings Road North Point, who gave the poster a really good time. I can't seem to find it now. Was it erased?
No matter, because I visited and had quite the opposite experience. No kiss, no BBBJ as the poster had said, no DATY allowed, and she hurried me after only a very short time.
I won't question what another poster said about his own experience, but YMMV.
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket
Guys,
I visited 37D and was presented with 6 girls (!). Two I would have taken, and I chose Ga Yan. Am I ever glad I did!
First of all, the ST hotel where they take you was apparently full, which meant I got to sit in the karaoke room with her for about 15-20 minutes. I wish that happened more often, at least when the girl is very friendly, as Ga Yan was. We chatted for a while, DFK, I fingered her and she was really digging it. She was stroking my cock and even pulled it out a little but then came the knock at the door.
So we moved the proceedings up to the hotel and did the normal routine. Great BBBJ. She was very good at the sort of gentle, tickling ball massage that I like. She was into the DATY, but stopped me before I came. I figured maybe she was the type who liked to get off during fucking, and I was right. When she was on top she ground her clit into me and eventually had a very nice orgasm with a lot of muscle clenching.
We went CG, mish, corkscrew (lying down), doggy, back to CG, then back to mish for me to come. As usual I was still pounding away when the phone rang and I had to hurry it up. What are you going to do huh.
She had a great attitude and was very cute. I will repeat and I recommend her to you too. Treat her well.
Have fun and stay safe!
Johnny Rocket
Anybody having problems logging into ISG from China? I live in Shenzhen and it's suddenly blocked yesterday and again today. I've never had this problem before and I have no trouble getting to other sites, and I can still get to ISG through a proxy server
Is it just Shenzhen or is it just me?
QH
Anyone been to level 2 in 37 dundas?
Are they the same company, same routine etc?
Hi,
Forget her. I think she wants to give it a second try to get money. She knows you will come again to HK and she knows / feels you like her. If you deny again to give her money she has the same situation like before. Nothing will change for her, but for you a lot if you once started to pay extra. I don't know how her business is when you are not in HK, maybe she just wants to make sure that in Feb. She has a time where an income is sure. Unfortunately we men fall sometimes in love during we have sex with a girl. I know what I am speaking about and I paid a lot.
Girls are much more clever. They look at you, the say the need and miss you and we feel like we have to protect this poor girl. The day after you are left she is looking in the same way to the next.
The above might not be true for 100%, but at least for 99.9%
Oliver
[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]Guess what readers - my girl is back. Suddenly she misses me again and is longing to see me in February when I return.
Should I?
Should I ignore her?
Should I tell her "F... off?"
Or should I renew a visit to the best 5 days of sex I have ever had in a fairly long career, now assisted in no small way by Vit V?
My heart says go for it. My mind says "Plenty of other fish in the sea & variety is the spice of life". Forget her.
What do the readers say?[/QUOTE]
quote "costomer come with me apoarch me and give drinks,you know he pretending costomer he is cid,police catch me on oct.26 at wan chai,i figth i say im not guilty but case must not be done if i say guilty they send me back on dec 5,but its became dec, 21 finish then i wait in imigation but holiday i buy my on tiket you know the last money of me i buy my own tiket to go back phil as soon as posible if not may be 2nd week of jan i came here,my suite case in my guest not with the owner of the canot contack hey im so so upset im cry everyday in jail my god its ver bad expirence..i feel that i die that time..if you have time call me i lost everything my things my money i just go home only my self..its ok important im back" quote
i have copied an e-mail i received today from a wg i befriended last year and who i met in galaxy in wan chai. she was a 7 in my book and was good fun under the sheets and worth a return visit. other than anal she was up for anything at hk $1000 lt. i lost touch for a while and tried to contact her before i visited hk earlier in the month. no wonder she did not reply| i have not heard of this approach by le before and maybe some of the regulars that frequent hk can comment. frankly, although i have not spoken to her yet, i have a feeling there is more to it than meets the eye. i don't think she was into drugs or anything else but you never know. i know she was up to speed on the validity of visas so i would rule this out. i was in fenwicks and galaxy this month when it was "visited" by le but they were only interested in the girl's visas and looking for drugs. males were not inconvenienced.
[QUOTE=Downundaman]Hi,
Does anybody know if/where/how I find nice, affordable, shaved, young (20-25) girls in Hongkong when I stay only 2 nights?
Where does it happen? In my hotel room (unobtrusive) or in a club or so?
Thanks for your help,
D.[/QUOTE]There are quite a few places that you can find girls in HK. There's a place called Sticky Fingers behind the Royal Garden Hotel in Kawloon. Looks like a regular bar from the outside, but when you sit the girls will start approaching or stare at you from the other side of the room. They will come to your hotel room, they usually ask for 1000HKD but you can always bargain.
Or even when you're walking back to your hotel, some woman will approach you and ask if you want a girl. Tell her what you want and give her your room number. In 30 mins there will be a girl at your door, if you don't like her send her back and she will send you another one.
As you see, it's quite easy to get laid in HK.
i have heard this story a few times recently that police are pretending to be customers and once they get the girl to the place the deed is supposed to occur in they arrest her for working in hk with out a visa. i have only heard this second hand, as in not from any girl who has been arrested, but i have heard it a number of times and i know the girls who have told me this were quite worried about it and asking whether i thought it was true. if this is happening it seems to be concentrated around neptunes and fenwicks.
to be honest i am not sure. there are very few white cops left in hk, and in all stories it was white cops arresting the girls. on the other hand in hk it would be legal for the cops to do what the girls are concerned about. also most stories seem to have occured between nov 15 - dec 15 so it could have been associated with a clean up before the holidays (similar to how there were massive clean ups of people selling fake goods) or the cops trying to appear they are doing something after all the negative press surrounding the two businessmen that od on heroin and all the stories about girls drugging guys being relayed in the press. i have not heard from any guys whether this has actually been happening or not. also rumors run like wildfire through wan chai so it can be hard sometimes to distinguish truth from rumor.
as for girls getting arrested. it does happen. i know a few girls how have been arrested, including one who seemed to think it was my duty to try and get her out. no way was i getting involved in that. i doubt your girl was lying about going to jail - it is not really the type of thing a bar girl lies about plus it would be really easy to verify. as an fyi close to 80% of the females in jail in hk are not hk chinese girls.
[quote=jackthelad2]quote "costomer come with me apoarch me and give drinks,you know he pretending costomer he is cid,police catch me on oct.26 at wan chai,i figth i say im not guilty but case must not be done if i say guilty they send me back on dec 5,but its became dec, 21 finish then i wait in imigation but holiday i buy my on tiket you know the last money of me i buy my own tiket to go back phil as soon as posible if not may be 2nd week of jan i came here,my suite case in my guest not with the owner of the canot contack hey im so so upset im cry everyday in jail my god its ver bad expirence..i feel that i die that time..if you have time call me i lost everything my things my money i just go home only my self..its ok important im back" quote
i have copied an e-mail i received today from a wg i befriended last year and who i met in galaxy in wan chai. she was a 7 in my book and was good fun under the sheets and worth a return visit. other than anal she was up for anything at hk $1000 lt. i lost touch for a while and tried to contact her before i visited hk earlier in the month. no wonder she did not reply| i have not heard of this approach by le before and maybe some of the regulars that frequent hk can comment. frankly, although i have not spoken to her yet, i have a feeling there is more to it than meets the eye. i don't think she was into drugs or anything else but you never know. i know she was up to speed on the validity of visas so i would rule this out. i was in fenwicks and galaxy this month when it was "visited" by le but they were only interested in the girl's visas and looking for drugs. males were not inconvenienced.[/quote]
Hello All,
Will be in HK next month. Have gone through the reports and conclude that 141 is the best option. (On-site or Hotel Reservation).
However, I see that most of the girls available are Chinese / Local.
If I want to have the option of Ebony / East Europe / Latina girls, what is the option?
I do not see any in the 141 site.
I see that there are some listed in the Escort sites. Is it worth it to try the Escort babes? Is there any specific place where Latina / Ebony girls are available? Awaiting some advice.
Purple
Popped into HK just after xmas, and straight to 37D, 1st floor, picked up Elaine, had her before a couple of months back so decided to stick to the same, mamasan tried to sell me a 3some but i stuck firmly to waiting for Elaine, she showed up 20 mins later, she from Shaoguan, speaks a few words of english but i have had a before and ehsw is well worth the wait.
Was ever so happy when she realized i had waited for her and didnt choose anyone else offered, started with the body massage in the shower followed by a nice long BBBJ, on to the bed for the back body massage and kissing all over, right down to some serious rimming... turned me over and i was about to blow there and then, she followed that with more BBBJ, DATY, and i just couldnt take it any more so blew my load, she very gently cleaned me up, and said she wanted more... so got showered, back in bed.. and aroused me again for all the regular positions, bloody surprised i could still blow a full load again, think its the way she uses her vagina muscles on me to control.. had a great time and fully recommend this great fuck.
Anyways back in Shanghai now.
Cheers
[quote=rick hunter]i have heard this story a few times recently that police are pretending to be customers and once they get the girl to the place the deed is supposed to occur in they arrest her for working in hk with out a visa.
more information. i spoke to the girl - she was very upset and distressed and it was difficult to make out everything she was saying. she was in galaxy and a white male approached her. they talked and he bought her a couple of drinks. i think she then said they were leaving the bar and out on the street she was stopped by a police car. it gets a bit hazy from then on but she was taken to the police station and, if i picked her up right, she had a passport belonging to someone else. it was not very clear but obviously not straightforward. it is surprising as she is up to speed with visas etc, the upshot is that she spent 2 months in jail and just got back to phil at the weekend with more or less the clothes she had on. she is now not able to go back to hk and is thinking of going to china instead to "make a living". surprisingly she did not ask me for any money which i fully expected her to do. she wants to meet me in shenzhen in february when i return to hk for a couple of weeks. i might just miss that one out.
nothing is as straightforward as it seems!
Following info is meant for Hong Kong travelers with limited time (about 3 hrs) and knowledge about Hong Kong “market”. What I did to get a nice massage and release:
Starting point: Hong Kong airport.
Step 1: Check the 141 website for goodies. You can access the internet for free with your laptop (wireless) at the airport. Info on that website is pretty up-to-date. Remember the location of the building and the floor / room numbers of the girls of your choice. I went to New Lucky House located at Jordan MTR station because it was very easy to find without speaking Mandarin, just at the exit of the MTR station, downtown.
Step 2: Store your luggage. There is a serviced luggage storage facility on the arrival level to the far-right (coming from the customs area). Costs HKD 50 per piece per day; need passport to check luggage in and out. Quick and safe.
Step 3: Go to restroom, change/obtain money from ATM, grab a bite etc. – all readily available in the arrival hall.
Step 4: Buy a ticket for the airport express train at vending machine (accepts HKD bills). Costs HKD 100 for same day return. Go to airport express train boarding area in the middle of the arrival hall. Trains leave every few minutes. Train takes you to Central station (Hong Kong island) in about 25 minutes which is faster and cheaper than any other transportation.
Step 5: Arrival at Central station on Hong Kong Island. Unless you have coins to buy ticket for the MTR (underground), go to the customer service desk just a couple of meters away when disembarking the airport train and buy for example a 1-day ticket (HKD 50) good for unlimited use on MTR. You can only use coins to buy tickets for the MTR once you take the escalator downstairs to get to the trains.
Step 6: Proceed to MTR. If you want to go to New Lucky House in Jordan, follow the signs for the red line MTR direction Tsuen Wan. Note: You have to walk for about 10 minutes as Central is one of the biggest stations but the signs are easy-to-follow (also to get back again – you can see the airport express/Disneyland train signs everywhere). Board the red line MTR bound for Tsuen Wan.
Step 7: Exit at Jordan MTR station (third stop). Follow the signs that lead you to Exit B and then exit B1. Exit B1 leads you up a staircase. Turn right and you are immediately in front of the New Lucky House No. 13 (name in English on black board).
Step 8: Proceed to the floor / room where the girl of your choice is located. You can take the elevators (note that not all elevators go to the same floor!) or staircase. The rooms on the respective floors have signs like “H1” relating to the website. Many doors also have pictures of the girl. Note: There is always a sign that says “please wait” or “welcome/ring the bell” in English to indicate the current availability. Also note: The building hosts private apartments as well and you will come across many Hong Kong guys doing the same as you do – but nobody gives a s*** about you– some even asked me for some hint to which girl they should go. Because the elevator is often busy, it is easier to go around the different floors using one of the staircases. I recommend going there in the early afternoon because favorite girls are very busy (some men even line up in front of the rooms!).
Step 9: Ring the bell. Once you have found the room/girl of choice and she is not busy, ring the bell. They might even open the door if you linger around their room because they have CCTV camera. No problem if you don’t like what you see, just go to another room. Expect to pay about HKD 500 for massage and full sex lasting about 60-90 min (one shot). They speak enough English to fix a deal.
Step 10: Enter the room and have fun. Rooms are small and certainly not of hotel standard, contain however the necessities and Asians are certainly cleaner than prostitutes from other countries. Process: She will ask you to take of cloths and do the same. She will wash you in a small shower and provide you with towel. Then follows a full body massage (girl naked) but no soapy, lasting for about 30 min. Girl will then ensure that your little friend is awaken and fix condom. Followed by BJ and FS in several positions. After finish, again shower with the girl. Get dressed, pay the negotiated fee and good-bye; tip not requested and didn’t seem to be expected. I was happy with what I got but I guess one could negotiate specials (anal, fetish play…) depending on the girl. Uncovered work also for BJ rather unlikely but the girl I had was very skilled and I would also recommend being careful in such a high “usage” environment.
Step 11: Explore / shop around the area or board the MTR to get back to the airport; just take red line direction of Central and follow the signs leading you to Airport Express / Disneyland train.
Summary: Was a perfect hassle-free, time-saving, satisfying experience (both massage and FS) before boarding a plane, in particular if one has no hotel room in HK to fix a date or order room service.
[QUOTE=Purple 2006]Hello All,
Will be in HK next month. Have gone through the reports and conclude that 141 is the best option. (On-site or Hotel Reservation).
However, I see that most of the girls available are Chinese / Local.
If I want to have the option of Ebony / East Europe / Latina girls, what is the option?
I do not see any in the 141 site.
I see that there are some listed in the Escort sites. Is it worth it to try the Escort babes? Is there any specific place where Latina / Ebony girls are available? Awaiting some advice.
Purple[/QUOTE] Not expert on HK but you may have better chance in Macau.
Called into Hari's early at 7. 15pm and not much on offer. New Years Day after all. ! After two hours and 4 Black Russians or so an 8/10 a white Russian sweetie comes in and sits alone. Med length dark hair nice B. C cup amd trim chassis. As the pickings were slim I decided to move in and after 1 hour of chat we got down to business and after a lengthy negotiation settled on $1500. 2 hrs. Pricey but she was an 8/10 with a great accent and loads of promises. Well, back to the hotel and every one of those promises was lived up to.
After a lengthy foreplay BBFS was offered which was, of course, declined but settled for a BBBJCIM after banging her in every conceivable position [COVERED] until she was pleading for mercy. I think the 20mg dose of C and 7 Black Russians hade something to do with that! She was a total GF experience with DFK but was out the door after 2 hours which incidently suited me fine as I was totally shagged and looking foreward to posting the experience and lapsing into the land of Nod. Only drawback was the constant bleating for extra $$ which was declined.
Body 6.5/10 [It should be noted I am a 3/10]
Face 7.5/10
BBBJCIM 10/10 Failed to score the 11 for the spit in the sink.
FS 9/10 An energetic performance wih loads of DFK and definitely a feel good experience.
WIR? Absolutely. Ranks amongst the best of them.
Overall, whilst a tad expensive it was a total GF experience and beat the mechanical BBBJ/FS at 37D hands down albeint at 3 times the cost. IMHO well worth it. Incidently she paid for her own drinks at Hari's (a pleasant surprise when it came to setttling my account!)
Happy Punting.
A little off-topic, but I think someone around here might be able to help. My freebie and I have had a condom failure, the odds have not been favourable, and there seems to be a little Idler on the way. It's very early days. Does anyone have any experience of pharmaceutical termination in HK? Can we get RU486 or an equivalent here? Would it be better to head over to SZ for quicker processing? Any tips gratefully received?
[QUOTE=Rosco4444][It should be noted I am a 3/10]
[/QUOTE]
Oh come on Rosco4444! You got to be a 3.5 at least!!! LOL
Thanks for the nice report on your night in Hong Kong!
Producer,
Great report. Wish I would have this when I visited HK, Shenzhen 2 years ago. Appreciate it.
[QUOTE=Qiao Han]Anybody having problems logging into ISG from China? I live in Shenzhen and it's suddenly blocked yesterday and again today. I've never had this problem before and I have no trouble getting to other sites, and I can still get to ISG through a proxy server
Is it just Shenzhen or is it just me?
Qh[/QUOTE]Yeah, this is problem.
Even the hotel rooms are firewalled. I heard there 's a way around it, but it's techstuff.
I think you'll have to do your homework and bring out the saved files.
Idler
I am not advocating anything one way or another but HK has all the modern medical facilities you would need one way or another.
What I would like to say, and it may sound harsh, is make sure your freebie was not looking for a father/paycheck. I know of a few cases where a freebie (and by freebie I assume you mean maid) has been pregnant and then has gone looking to find the best man to either be the "father" or help her pay for the termination. I am not saying that this is what happened in your case but it is something you might want to keep in mind. In one case it was a good friend of mine this happened to. The lady really tried to make him think the child was his but she was already pregnant first. It turned into an ugly situation.
[QUOTE=Idler31]A little off-topic, but I think someone around here might be able to help. My freebie and I have had a condom failure, the odds have not been favourable, and there seems to be a little Idler on the way. It's very early days. Does anyone have any experience of pharmaceutical termination in HK? Can we get RU486 or an equivalent here? Would it be better to head over to SZ for quicker processing? Any tips gratefully received?[/QUOTE]
Most doctors will take care of this for you. They do a quick medical check with the girl to make sure shes sane etc. And its certainly not cheap. But most places will do.
[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]What I would like to say, and it may sound harsh, is make sure your freebie was not looking for a father/paycheck. I know of a few cases where a freebie (and by freebie I assume you mean maid) has been pregnant and then has gone looking to find the best man to either be the "father" or help her pay for the termination.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the input. Yes, it's the maid (fairly obvious, I guess) and the obvious priority is keeping the wife in the dark! I'm pretty damn sure it's mine, to be honest. Based on replies here I think we'll be taking Sunday to visit a few GPs some distance from home to see if they can find an RU486. It's still early enough for that.
Let it be a lesson, guys! Don't play too close to home!
Rosco4444,
Sorry for being ill-educated but what is 20mg dose of 'C' - some type of Viagra?
Haam Sap Lo
You are right. I actually looked a million dollars, green and wrinkled.
I will be visiting HK for the first time... need some help in getting around, to get to good places. I have heard about 37D. Can anyone share about how to get there from the airport or the central station.
Also, is there a place where there are more bars and greater possibility of picking up girls?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Haam Sap Lo]Rosco4444,
Sorry for being ill-educated but what is 20mg dose of 'C' - some type of Viagra?
Haam Sap Lo[/QUOTE] He was probably referring to Cialis
Regarding step 4. Just take airport express to TST/ Kowloon will cut off 15 min and you won't need to take the metr to jordon. Just tell the taxi jordan MTR when you get out of the kowloon airport express. Find the proper exit and it is right there. Or mongkok or whereever you nose or other areas point ya. Just wanted to shave some time off for ya.
Is your 3 hours including to have to check back in? it is gonna be tight.
[QUOTE=Producer]Following info is meant for Hong Kong travelers with limited time (about 3 hrs) and knowledge about Hong Kong “market”. What I did to get a nice massage and release:
Starting point: Hong Kong airport.
Step 1: Check the 141 website for goodies. You can access the internet for free with your laptop (wireless) at the airport. Info on that website is pretty up-to-date. Remember the location of the building and the floor / room numbers of the girls of your choice. I went to New Lucky House located at Jordan MTR station because it was very easy to find without speaking Mandarin, just at the exit of the MTR station, downtown.
Step 2: Store your luggage. There is a serviced luggage storage facility on the arrival level to the far-right (coming from the customs area). Costs HKD 50 per piece per day; need passport to check luggage in and out. Quick and safe.
Step 3: Go to restroom, change/obtain money from ATM, grab a bite etc. – all readily available in the arrival hall.
Step 4: Buy a ticket for the airport express train at vending machine (accepts HKD bills). Costs HKD 100 for same day return. Go to airport express train boarding area in the middle of the arrival hall. Trains leave every few minutes. Train takes you to Central station (Hong Kong island) in about 25 minutes which is faster and cheaper than any other transportation.
Step 5: Arrival at Central station on Hong Kong Island. Unless you have coins to buy ticket for the MTR (underground), go to the customer service desk just a couple of meters away when disembarking the airport train and buy for example a 1-day ticket (HKD 50) good for unlimited use on MTR. You can only use coins to buy tickets for the MTR once you take the escalator downstairs to get to the trains.
Step 6: Proceed to MTR. If you want to go to New Lucky House in Jordan, follow the signs for the red line MTR direction Tsuen Wan. Note: You have to walk for about 10 minutes as Central is one of the biggest stations but the signs are easy-to-follow (also to get back again – you can see the airport express/Disneyland train signs everywhere). Board the red line MTR bound for Tsuen Wan.
Step 7: Exit at Jordan MTR station (third stop). Follow the signs that lead you to Exit B and then exit B1. Exit B1 leads you up a staircase. Turn right and you are immediately in front of the New Lucky House No. 13 (name in English on black board).
Step 8: Proceed to the floor / room where the girl of your choice is located. You can take the elevators (note that not all elevators go to the same floor!) or staircase. The rooms on the respective floors have signs like “H1” relating to the website. Many doors also have pictures of the girl. Note: There is always a sign that says “please wait” or “welcome/ring the bell” in English to indicate the current availability. Also note: The building hosts private apartments as well and you will come across many Hong Kong guys doing the same as you do – but nobody gives a s*** about you– some even asked me for some hint to which girl they should go. Because the elevator is often busy, it is easier to go around the different floors using one of the staircases. I recommend going there in the early afternoon because favorite girls are very busy (some men even line up in front of the rooms!).
Step 9: Ring the bell. Once you have found the room/girl of choice and she is not busy, ring the bell. They might even open the door if you linger around their room because they have CCTV camera. No problem if you don’t like what you see, just go to another room. Expect to pay about HKD 500 for massage and full sex lasting about 60-90 min (one shot). They speak enough English to fix a deal.
Step 10: Enter the room and have fun. Rooms are small and certainly not of hotel standard, contain however the necessities and Asians are certainly cleaner than prostitutes from other countries. Process: She will ask you to take of cloths and do the same. She will wash you in a small shower and provide you with towel. Then follows a full body massage (girl naked) but no soapy, lasting for about 30 min. Girl will then ensure that your little friend is awaken and fix condom. Followed by BJ and FS in several positions. After finish, again shower with the girl. Get dressed, pay the negotiated fee and good-bye; tip not requested and didn’t seem to be expected. I was happy with what I got but I guess one could negotiate specials (anal, fetish play…) depending on the girl. Uncovered work also for BJ rather unlikely but the girl I had was very skilled and I would also recommend being careful in such a high “usage” environment.
Step 11: Explore / shop around the area or board the MTR to get back to the airport; just take red line direction of Central and follow the signs leading you to Airport Express / Disneyland train.
Summary: Was a perfect hassle-free, time-saving, satisfying experience (both massage and FS) before boarding a plane, in particular if one has no hotel room in HK to fix a date or order room service.[/QUOTE]
You hansum man!! As the girls in Thailand would say!!!
[QUOTE=Rosco4444]You are right. I actually looked a million dollars, green and wrinkled.[/QUOTE]
I think the quickest way from the airport to the TST/Jordan/Mongkok area would be to take the airport express to TsingYi. Take the TungChung line to LaiKing. Then take the TsuenWan line to the stop you want. No taxi needed for most 141 destinations.
See the map here : [url]http://www.mtr.com.hk/eng/train/system_map_pop_up.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Twisted Monkey]Regarding step 4. Just take airport express to TST/ Kowloon will cut off 15 min and you won't need to take the metr to jordon. Just tell the taxi jordan MTR when you get out of the kowloon airport express. Find the proper exit and it is right there. Or mongkok or whereever you nose or other areas point ya. Just wanted to shave some time off for ya.
Is your 3 hours including to have to check back in? it is gonna be tight.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Twisted Monkey]Regarding step 4. Just take airport express to TST/ Kowloon will cut off 15 min and you won't need to take the metr to jordon. Just tell the taxi jordan MTR when you get out of the kowloon airport express. Find the proper exit and it is right there. Or mongkok or whereever you nose or other areas point ya. Just wanted to shave some time off for ya.
Is your 3 hours including to have to check back in? it is gonna be tight.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for this and other comments. Yes, there are certainly different options even when taking the airport express / MTR. To me, taking a taxi adds some uncertainty to the equation in terms of time required to get to the destination (rush hour or not, bad weather hence no taxis or not) and my experience with taxis in HK was so far not the best if you can't speak Mandarin/Cantonese. I second that anyone taking a taxi should tell the driver to go to Jordan MTR and not the mongering location; don't know about HK drivers but one should never indicate a mongering place as final destination.
Check in time: That's difficult to calculate in. I'd say that 3 hours are good for making the turnaround to the check-in but not completing it and making it to the plane. I made the experience that check-in in HK for my airlines opens about 2,5 to 3 hours before boarding time. When flying business class, it takes about 15 minutes to check in. When flying eco, people tend to line up before opening of the counters - better to come later then but consider a 30 minutes buffer for that.
just back from a fun-filled 48 hours in hong kong and macau. what a trip! i have been a regular visitor to bangkok and used to consider that as the ultimate place for mongering and gfe. after this trip i would put hk/macau ahead of bkk in terms of quality as well as service.
arrived at the hkia early afternoon and took the bus to macau ferry terminal (shun tak center). located the left luggage facility near the mtr station (not the ferry company facility, which is much more expensive) to leave my luggage and took the mtr to jordan station. came out through the exit for temple street and soon i was at k pressure. the english-speaking lady offered me water and explained the cost, which was hkd 390 for 45 minutes.
soon she ushered in a pretty mainland chinese girl about 22/23 years. the girl was smiling and i took an instant liking for her. she could not speak any english, but was smiling at me all the time. her hands were all over me trying to make me say yes. a quick pat of her ample breasts convinced me they were not enhanced.
in about 5 minutes i said ok to her and she went out of the room and the mamasam returned. i made the payment and confirmed from her that the time can be extended against extra payment of the same amount.
we walked up one floor to the hourly hotel where i paid hkd 100 more. once inside the room i spent several minutes kissing and caressing her, which she really seemed to enjoy. we had a quick shower. i declined the air matress bed massage in the bathroom and we proceeded to the bed. some more deep kisses and caresses followed. it was really like meeting a gf after a long gap.
the lovemaking was superb. the chemistry was just right. she was very wet. she did whatever i asked, including anal rimming. both came just about the same time and it was just heaven.
even though we did not communicate much it was one of my best gfe. she was an 8 in looks and a 10 in service. overall, i would rate this experience as one of my very best. her name was sasa.
after the most wonderful experience went back to the shun tak centre and bought a sauna package for golden dragon for about hkd 1550, that included return ferry ticket. checked into my hotel at macau and went into the golden dragon sauna.
the sauna facilities at golden dragon are of very high standard. thoroughly refreshed myself before it was the time for the line up. the gd line up is huge and very high quality. there were more than 100 girls of various nationalities and most of them were 8s and 9s. at no other place in the world i have come across a better line up of such numbers. i would be happy to bed practically all of them and some were really outstanding.
i always enjoy watching the punters, when the girls line up. guys in various shapes and sizes draped in towels watch in amazement as the beautiful girls walk past. many of the girls are quickly taken. some of the guys pace up and down trying to get a better look and trying to identify the best and at the same time the good ones are going fast. there is a frenzy to be quick to get a good one and yet not to miss a better one.
the crowd at the gd almost entirely consists of orientals. i have hardly come across whites and blacks. i am of indian origin and had never faced any discrimination. there are a few english-speaking managers and waiters at the place and language is not an issue.
after much deliberation i picked up a very beautiful vietnamese. while the service was quite good, including the standard ice and hot water treatment, the passion was missing. she did all she was supposed to do, but somehow the experience was not fulfilling.
nevertheless, the time was well spent at the sauna. did manicure, pedicure and some other services on offer. food and beverages were unlimited. internet was free and above all the line up was there every hour. overall, time well spent.
next day i decided to visit the famed lisboa shark pit. as reported earlier, lots of eye candy. but, decided not to proceed further in view of adverse reports. instead i walked down to the big boss sauna nearby.
the facilities at big boss were equally good, though smaller. enjoyed the wash offered in a room by a bikini-clad woman. the hot water cleaned every part of my body and had never felt cleaner.
after retiring to the lounge enjoyed the food and some of the treatments on offer. but, sadly there was no line up. about a year back when i had last visited there was a nice show. the papasam explained there was no show or line up and he will bring a few girls if i specify my requirements. when i said i would like to take a look at all the available girls he said that will take time. i preferred to wait.
after about half an hour he took me upstairs and paraded about 15 girls. quality was quite good, but the thrill of 100+ girls walking around in throbbing music at gd the previous night was missing at bb.
i settled for a beautiful vietnamese girl, who was very playful and seemed like a bundle of joy and energy. we walked in to the allotted room hand in hand. when she took of her clothes and stood before me i stood mesmerized. she was so beautiful. every part of her body was perfectly formed. she was enjoying the attention i was lavishing on her and was giggling.
the lovemaking was ecstatic. i had a mind-blowing orgasm and rested for a while. surprise! just by looking at her i had a stiffy in no time and she was giggling away enjoying every minute. second round over and time was also up. i asked her phone number. she ran out and came back carrying cell phone. she scrolled down in the contacts and showed me number. i was not in a position to remember and asked for a pen. she again ran out. the papasam was getting impatient and came knocking at the door after making a couple of phone calls. she wrote down a number. her name is cindy/amy and her number was 703.
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Hi guys,
Just some friendly advice or pointer. I take Vit C(ialis) in a recreational way and I usually pick it up at the pharmacy in Wan Chai across from Empire hotel.
Twice now they have tried to screw me (financially) I can always pay 1500 HKD for 30 tablet bottle (I have been known to bring christmas prsents of these back home to the usa for buddies.
The last purchase, I knew something was off as soon as I got home the tablet color was not quite right. Also, I never take a full pill and to split them I usually bite them so I know the bitter taste they have. Well I go ahead bite, hmm not the same taste. Hmmm, no effect.
So I go down the next day (I have no shame mind you) and say Hey! WTF! To the reply oh sorry sir we gave you the wrong one, standard nonsense. I didn't make a scene but I let them know I was not pleased. So I had a date that night opened the new bottle (color right) and bit a pill right there. Taste was right. Later the reaction was right as well. OK NO problem.
So a few months later I have clients in town and it ends up they want a bottle. I take them over to the pharm and the bottle looks all wrong again. I let them know I am going to open the bottle and they say oh wait can you come back in 30 min we will get you another bottle. WTF! Of course the new bottle when we came back everything was OK.
Just watch yourselves guys. If anybody has a pharmacy they have had a good reaction from and decent service I would be appreciative. Because though I get what I want I am tried of all the issues each time I go there now. I don't like doing business with people who act like this.
TM
Try the pharmacy next to K Pressure. Original packaging available over the counter 390HK for 4 x 20mg. Original and works fine. Most Mongkok pharmacies supply without a problem.
[QUOTE=Idler31]A little off-topic, but I think someone around here might be able to help. My freebie and I have had a condom failure, the odds have not been favourable, and there seems to be a little Idler on the way. It's very early days. Does anyone have any experience of pharmaceutical termination in HK? Can we get RU486 or an equivalent here? Would it be better to head over to SZ for quicker processing? Any tips gratefully received?[/QUOTE]Don't have any first hand experience, but my impression is that terminations on the SZ side would be quite easy, whether you prefer the pill form (there's a time limit here isn't there?) or surgical form.
I'd brought up this question with WG's in the past and the reaction was always something along the lines of "no big deal"... but I think that they mostly head over to SZ (seems like they all spend their free time there). Maybe you have a WG friend you could ask for more detailed info?
Please forgive the noobie question but these sound like what I am looking for. To be honest I have tried the 141 girls and the KTV but was looking for a sauna kind of like you see in the movies. I think there was one in Rush hour 3 or in a video for the movie. Basically they show you like 15 girls in silk robes and you get massage and whatever service you like after.
Are these those type of places?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Undercoverh]For those who are interested in saunas, here is a list. I cannot take credit for the list, I obtained it from another source. Note that the building called Wai Wah Comm. Bldg at 109-113 Portland st Mongkok has 4 saunas. I have only been two one sauna at this location (Long to Court). There are saunas on the 11, 9, 6, and 5 floors. Each one is a different sauna with different girls as I was told by the mama.
My friend likes G/F-3/F, Portland House, 194-196 Portland St, Mong Kok, opposite Langham Hotel. I have never been here so I cannot give you any info. But, as I said, he likes it. I not big on saunas, but my Chinese friends love them (eat, drink, get a massage, watch TV, get laid, I guess it is like a boys club).
Big Shot Steam Bath Flat A & B, 1/F, 190-192 Tai Po Rd, Sham Shui Po, Kln
Carnival Message Steam Palace 318-328 King's Road, Whole 3/F, North Point, HK.
CYBER SAUNA 3/F, CYBER PLAZA, 237-247 TEMPLE STREET, YAU MA TEI, KLN
Dragon Palace Sauna 1/F, Wah Shing Bldg., 17-23 Castle Peak Rd., Sham Shui Po, Kln
DRAGON WAVE JAPANESE MASSAGE Flat C & D, 1/F., Fuk Ying Bldg., 379-381 King's RD., North Point, HK
Dynasty Sauna 10/F Wing Kee Comm. Bldg., 156-162 Castle Peak Rd., Kln
East Lake Sauna 10/F, Sun Hing Bldg., 607 Nathan Road, Mong Kok, Kowloon
Empire Sauna & Massage 2/F, Booman House, 37U Jordan Rd, Yau Ma Tei, Kln
FAIRY-TALE ISLAND SAUNA No. 801-804 & 816-820, 8/F, Sun Hing Bldg, 607 Nathan Rd, Mong Kok, Kln
Fuji Sauna 98-104 Reclamation St, 1/F Yau Ma Tei, Kln
Global Massage Centre 2/F, Kam Bong Bldg, 14 Wing Kut St, Central, HK
Gold Sand Sauna 4/F, Wai Wah Commercial Bldg, 109-113 Portland St., Yau Ma Tei, Kln
Golden Jasper Sauna 3/F, Manly Comm Bldg, 11-17 Soy St, Mong Kok, Kln
Golden Lake Sauna 46-54 Temple St, Basement, Yau Ma Tei, Kln
Golden Treasure Sauna Knapwood Comm. Bldg., 253-255 Temple Street, Yau Ma Tei
Grand Arch Sauna 3/F, Golden Era Plaza, 39 Sai Yee Street, Mong Kok, Kln
Happy Sauna G/F, Shop G, 1/F & 2/F, FT A-F, Ealing Court , 259A Temple ST, YMT
Island Sauna Units B01& B40-B42, Basement, Lai Sun Comm. Ctr, 680 Cheung Sha Wan Rd, Sham Shui Po, KLN
Jade Lake Sauna 9/F, Wai Wah Comm. Bldg, 109-113 Portland St, Yau Ma Tei, KLN
Jordan Sauna 5/F, Jordan Plaza, 28-28A Jordan Road & 86-94 Shanghai Street, Yau Ma Tei, Kln
Kam Bik Sauna 1/F & 2/F, Hydan Place, 228-234 Shanghai Street, Yau Ma Tei, Kowloon
Kam Po Loy Sauna 1/F, Haven Mansion,106-112 Woosung St, YMT, KLN
Kam To Kwok Sauna 3/F, Wai Wah Comm. Bldg, 109-113 Portland St, YMT, KLN
KAM TO SAUNA 3/F, HANG SHING BLDG, 44 KWEILIN ST, SHAM SHUI PO, KLN
King's Sauna M/F, State Theatre Building, 289-291 King's Rd, North Point, HK
King's Sauna 4/F-5/F, 698-710 Shanghai St, Mong Kok, Kln
Lung To Kok Sauna G/F (Portion) & 1/F, 479 Shanghai St, Mong Kok, KLN
Massage Place G/F-3/F, Portland House, 194-196 Portland St, Mong Kok, Kln
Mong Kok Sauna Bath Part of G/F & 1/F, 30-36 Mong Kok Rd, Mong Kok, Kln
NEW DRAGON SAUNA BATH 2/F, KNAPWOOD COMMERCIAL BUILDING, 253-255 TEMPLE STREET, YAU MA TEI, KLN
New Hsin Kok Sauna Rm 901-910, Sun Hing Bldg, 607 Nathan Rd, Mong Kok, KLN
New Temple Street Sauna Shop E, 1/F-2/F, Liberty Mansion, 26E Jordan Road, Yau Ma Tei, Kln
North Point City Sauna Shops 1 & 2, 2/F, Sentact Bldg, 347 King's Rd, North Point, HK
Ocean King Sauna 338 King's Rd., 1/F & Portion of G/F., North Point, HK
Oriental Palm Spring Sauna Spa Shop1, G/F, 1/F & 2/F & G/F Entrance at Ning Po St, Kensington Plaza, 98 Parkes St, YMT, KLN
Pacific Sauna Basement, Wing Kee Comm Bldg, 156-162 Castle Peak Rd, Cheung Sha Wan, Sham Shui Po, Kln
Prince City Sauna Shop M on G/F, 1/F & 2/F, Mainway Count, 15-33 Kwong Wa Street & 126-128 Soy Street, Mong Kok, Kln
Prince Silver Spring Sauna Portion of Upper Basement, Sun Hing Bldg, 607 Nathan Road, Mong Kok, Kln
Queenie Court Sauna Basement & Portions of G/F, Pollock Bldg, 9-10 Tak Hing St, Yau Ma Tei, Kln
Repulse Bay Sauna 9/F, 317 Nathan Rd, Yau Ma Tei, Kln
San Diego Hotel De Sauna 169-189 Woosung St, 1/F & 2/F, Yau Ma Tei, Kln
SANDS SAUNA G/F (PORTION), 2/F & 3/F(PORTION) INCL. FLAT A OF LUCKY HOUSE, 18-24 JORDAN ROAD, YAU MA TEI, KLN
Sapphire Lagoon Sauna 1/F, Kent Bldg, 39 & 39A Jordan Rd, Yau Ma Tei,
Seashore Palace Health Spa Shop No. 5, G/F., 24 Wai Ching St. & Whole 1/F., 14-44 Wai Ching St., Yau Ma Tei, Kln.
Sun Do Wui Sauna Bath 11/F, Wai Wah Building, 109-113 Portland Street, Yau Ma Tei, Kln
Sunshine Sauna Basement 2, Chong Hing Square, 593-601 Nathan Rd, Mong Kok, Kln
SUPREME SAUNA 6/F, WAI WAH COMMERCIAL BUILDING, 109-113 PORTLAND STREET, YAU MA TEI, KLN.
Swan Lake Sauna Shop No. 6, G/F. 1/F & 2/F, Nam Cheong Centre, 81-95 Nam Cheong Street, Sham Shui Po, Kln
TAI WAH KWOK Sauna Flat 1,2,3,16,17, 1/F Ping On Bldg, 383-385 Nathan RD., Yau Ma Tei, Kln.
Telbo Sauna Rm 304-308, 3/F, Sun Hing Bldg, 603-609A Nathan Rd, Mong Kok, Kln[/QUOTE]
Just buy a package at the Macau Ferry Terminal / Shun Tak Center and go directly to Macau.
You will find the place you are looking for...
[QUOTE=Miguel56]Please forgive the noobie question but these sound like what I am looking for. To be honest I have tried the 141 girls and the KTV but was looking for a sauna kind of like you see in the movies. I think there was one in Rush hour 3 or in a video for the movie. Basically they show you like 15 girls in silk robes and you get massage and whatever service you like after.
Are these those type of places?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Beijing Lover]Just buy a package at the Macau Ferry Terminal / Shun Tak Center and go directly to Macau.
You will find the place you are looking for...[/QUOTE]
I agree, more specifically, buy a package to sauna 18 at Shun Tak (the ferry terminal), you won't miss these travel agents, they have lots of posters that will catch your eye.
It was just reported on a few posts down by Lion King 7. He called it Golden Dragon sauna, it is the same as sauna 18, sauna 18 is located on level 6 of Golden Dragon casino/hotel.
I cant remember if its on level 6 of the hotel or casino but it is very easy to find, say 18 to a taxi driver and your there in less than 5 minutes from the ferry terminal.
So for the rush hour movie experience, definitely give 18 a try.
BTW, the saunas in HK are nowhere near macau saunas, if HK sauna is C grade then macau sauna is A+ grade. Besides, macau is only 1 hour away from HK.
Yup .. 18 is nice, for sure. Here is a walk-through I did for the sauna mid 2007.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=600583#post600583[/url]
That should help getting the lay of the land (and the women).
OEM
[QUOTE=Sparky Boy]I agree, more specifically, buy a package to sauna 18 at Shun Tak (the ferry terminal), you won't miss these travel agents, they have lots of posters that will catch your eye.
It was just reported on a few posts down by Lion King 7. He called it Golden Dragon sauna, it is the same as sauna 18, sauna 18 is located on level 6 of Golden Dragon casino/hotel.
I cant remember if its on level 6 of the hotel or casino but it is very easy to find, say 18 to a taxi driver and your there in less than 5 minutes from the ferry terminal.
So for the rush hour movie experience, definitely give 18 a try.
BTW, the saunas in HK are nowhere near macau saunas, if HK sauna is C grade then macau sauna is A+ grade. Besides, macau is only 1 hour away from HK.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Twisted Monkey]---cut---
I take them over to the pharm and the bottle looks all wrong again. I let them know I am going to open the bottle and they say oh wait can you come back in 30 min we will get you another bottle. WTF! Of course the new bottle when we came back everything was OK.
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Hi TM,
Thanks for the info. Would you mind taking pictures of the "correct" bottle and posting? Whether we (collectively) make a difference and change their behavior depends on knowing the right from wrong bottle. I have a good idea of the color of pill and taste. I'm interested in purchasing some as well, obviously. Thanks.
-M
[QUOTE=Manfest]Hi TM,
Thanks for the info. Would you mind taking pictures of the "correct" bottle and posting? Whether we (collectively) make a difference and change their behavior depends on knowing the right from wrong bottle. I have a good idea of the color of pill and taste. I'm interested in purchasing some as well, obviously. Thanks.
-M[/QUOTE]
I'm a vitamin V man myself. I usually take a supply with me (properly prescribed on a private prescription from my Dr.) I assume vit V is available and on sale in the chemist shop. What are the chances of getting the real viagra as opposed to some fake crap? If they do this with vit C then they can do it with other medication. I need to be careful that I get the right stuff due to other medication I take.
Thanks for any info.
[QUOTE=Sweet]I will be visiting HK for the first time... need some help in getting around, to get to good places. I have heard about 37D. Can anyone share about how to get there from the airport or the central station.
Also, is there a place where there are more bars and greater possibility of picking up girls?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Even after diligent searching of the forum, I am unable to find the location and directions to 37D, need help since I am already here in HK. Also, I was surprise to see that some of 141 girls do not work after 11:30 PM. Has any one tried them at later time?
I will be in Hong Kong for the first time next month and will have a Sunday afternoon free.
As my significant other will be with me (she is visiting her niece), any suggestions on a good massage parlor. I will be staying at the Eaton Hotel.
Thank you.
Can anyone point me in the right direction to a straight massage centre without the "extras" in the Tsim Tsai Tsui area please. Thanks
[QUOTE=Sweet]Even after diligent searching of the forum, I am unable to find the location and directions to 37D, need help since I am already here in HK. Also, I was surprise to see that some of 141 girls do not work after 11:30 PM. Has any one tried them at later time?[/QUOTE]Come on, use the search function of this thread, enter 37D, browse the results to get the street name, then go to a map site, e.g. [url]www.centamap.com[/url] , enter the street name, find it, go there, find No. 37D and done.
[QUOTE=Toki Jo]Can anyone point me in the right direction to a straight massage centre without the "extras" in the Tsim Tsai Tsui area please. Thanks[/QUOTE]
I don't know which places don't offer extras, but the places that do extras also offer straight massage. And in most places the girl for the massage and the girl for the extras is not the same. So just skip the extras and only buy the basic package. Sun Hot Sauna on Prat avenue is a place you could try. Just ask the guy/girl sitting at the entrance desk.
[QUOTE=Tiger 888]Come on, use the search function of this thread, enter 37D, browse the results to get the street name, then go to a map site, e.g. [url]www.centamap.com[/url] , enter the street name, find it, go there, find No. 37D and done.[/QUOTE]Thanks ! Agreed I did not look at the maps thread and I know now that 37D is located on Nathan Road.
[QUOTE=Sweet]Even after diligent searching of the forum, I am unable to find the location and directions to 37D, need help since I am already here in HK. [/QUOTE]
1. Report of distinction has at least 3, maybe more post, re location of 37D
2. Search for "37 Dundas"
If you still can't find the place, pay Jackson for subscription and pm me.
[quote]Also, I was surprise to see that some of 141 girls do not work after 11:30 PM. Has any one tried them at later time?[/quote]
Doesn't the 141 website list their working hours?
[QUOTE=Toki Jo]Can anyone point me in the right direction to a straight massage centre without the "extras" in the Tsim Tsai Tsui area please. Thanks[/QUOTE]
There are lots of foot massage places in Tsim Sha Tsui and they offer other massages as well. No "extras" provided. You can't walk the area without getting handed a flier for massages. A place where some friends go to is next to Harilela Mansion which is on the same side of Nathan road as the mosque, between the Haiphong road and Peking road.
Have fun and stay safe!
Day 1:
Checked into the hotel and logged onto the web to look for mongering information. First off, I had to find a nearest ATM and found one on Lockhart.
After withdrawing sufficient funds, got onto to my trek. First stop, a foot reflexology place for a good massage to take care of fatigue and travel stress. Got a decent 45 min massage for $128 HKD.
Following that took a taxi to Dreams II and decided to browse through the bars around the block. It was quite disappointing to see empty bars with girls in skimpy dressses and pushy solicitors outside the bar. Decided to check out Fenwicks but was deterred by the steep cover charge of $300. Waited outside Fenwicks and notice quite a few girls soliciting. Apparently due to the color of my skin [brown] no one approached. Also, found out that you needed to be dressed business casual to get some attention but I was dressed very informal and in jeans. No luck picking up any girl around that area and decided to head back to the hotel for a good night's sleep.
Day 2
Woke up a little late and after breakfast and a good amount of info from the forum on 141 girls, I headed for my adventure. Since I had arrived very late in HK the previous late night, I had not tried any of 141 girls since most of them operated only till 12 AM.
Found Hop Yee bldg on 474 -476 Lockhart with the help of centamap info and started with the top floor. None found on the top till I came down to the 7th floor. To my good fortune, I encoured Eva and Chinese girl with nice breasts [ I am the breast kind of guy and don't mind some flesh elsewhere too]. She quoted $400 and after some initial caressing and hugging, she lead me to the shower. She gave me a nice shower and out of the shower, she gave me a good back massage. On the flip, she gave a very good nipple licking and the crotch area, followed by a CBJ. Got into full mode in multiple positions and a great release. All in all, a nice 141 experience with an amazing girl.
Highly recommend Eva !
[QUOTE=Toki Jo]Can anyone point me in the right direction to a straight massage centre without the "extras" in the Tsim Tsai Tsui area please. Thanks[/QUOTE]I go to a place called Chung Wah just off of Nathan Road. Room 6, 1/F Hai Phong Mansion 53-55. This is the road that goes from Nathan to Ocean Terminal by the park. Ask for Angel. She had six years massage training in Beijing and does an excellent straight massage with no extras.
Just had my first 141 experience. Perhaps a little like the BBS scene in Shanghai in that it is quick and straightforward, but in those you see the girls available all lined up, pick the one you want and off you go. And there is no website of course.
So, ploughed through the 141 site, selecting girls that I liked the look of in the Fuji Building. Got there and it was rush hour. Men going up an down the stairs, bells going. Don't bother going through the site. Just select a building and go for it. What to do is written well enough on here. Even so, thought I would tackle a few I had hosen, non available but realised I was walking up. Kept on going. Rang one bell, pretty girl answered but rejected ME (ha ha! ). Then I turned down a couple of others. A bit old. Finally found myself on the 16/f and went for one with a "Welcome" sign up. Atttractive girl with great breats answered with a smile so in I went.
Shirely, Flat B3 16/f for reference. Turned out to be Mongolian / Korean and spoke excellent English (along with a range of other languages). A great plus.
Strip, nice shower, onto the bed, perfuntory massage on back, better on front. CBJ (brief) and then FS. She was happy to ride around on top until I blew (which, quite frankly wasn't long). Shower, and then dress.
OK, but wasn't up for number 2 (even with indication of payment), fairly mechnical on the whole. But then, money was walking up and down the stairs, so you would be I guess. In Shanghai take out and LT is a possible with many FS BBS girls. She said I could see her again 'in my dreams' so you get the message. She even asked where I was staying which was around the corner.
Overall. Not a GFE, but was a bit too processed like. But then the wole place is something of a **** factory. HK$500. Perhaps need a 300 away from central area.
May wander off to try Laguna or something. Just to see the scene if nothing else.
WGS
My first visit to 37D. Mmm, the thought of my first experience give me a hard-on. Wow what an experience.
After the thorough research and location lookup on the map, I headed to Dundas street but got out of MTR at Jordan and ended up walking a long mile to get to Dundas street. I would recommend to get out at Yau Ma Tei [exit A1]. At first glance, I was not sure that I had arrived at the right place and got out after being asked to get into a room. On proper validation of the location, I got in and was ushered into a room. A little while later the lineup and I chose a girl with the largest breasts amongst the line up and paid the std $$$$. The girl's name sounded something like Soumi and she escorted me to the room two floors up.
This girl was kind of strange, she helped me to remove my clothes and lead me to shower. She seems to have some kind of fetish, she spend a quite long washing me and herself. She gave the soapie experience in a stand-up shower and gave good wash of my private area. When we got out of the shower, she started kissing all over my body and in another strange twist, she started licking (almost blowing) two fingers at a time and repeated the same for all 10 fingers. She then proceeded to suck my toes and leaving none touched by her nice tongue. While she was working on my toes, I gave here a good cunnilingus and fingered her a-hole quite a bit. She was moaning at the magic of my tongue on her clit and a-hole.
She asked me to turnover and started licking my a-hole, I have never had such a good licking & tongue cleanup there. I was absolutely at a climax with her tongue working on a-hole. When I flipped, she put on a condom and gave a nice CBJ. She rode on my saddle to completion and what an amazing overall experience at my first visit to 37 D !
Rancher Joe, thanks for advice but are the massages carried out by females, is the decor decent with sauna and steam rooms?
[QUOTE=Twisted Monkey]Hi guys,
Just some friendly advice or pointer. I take Vit C(ialis) in a recreational way and I usually pick it up at the pharmacy in Wan Chai across from Empire hotel.
Twice now they have tried to screw me (financially) I can always pay 1500 HKD for 30 tablet bottle (I have been known to bring christmas prsents of these back home to the usa for buddies.
The last purchase, I knew something was off as soon as I got home the tablet color was not quite right. Also, I never take a full pill and to split them I usually bite them so I know the bitter taste they have. Well I go ahead bite, hmm not the same taste. Hmmm, no effect.
So I go down the next day (I have no shame mind you) and say Hey! WTF! To the reply oh sorry sir we gave you the wrong one, standard nonsense. I didn't make a scene but I let them know I was not pleased. So I had a date that night opened the new bottle (color right) and bit a pill right there. Taste was right. Later the reaction was right as well. OK NO problem.
So a few months later I have clients in town and it ends up they want a bottle. I take them over to the pharm and the bottle looks all wrong again. I let them know I am going to open the bottle and they say oh wait can you come back in 30 min we will get you another bottle. WTF! Of course the new bottle when we came back everything was OK.
Just watch yourselves guys. If anybody has a pharmacy they have had a good reaction from and decent service I would be appreciative. Because though I get what I want I am tried of all the issues each time I go there now. I don't like doing business with people who act like this.
TM[/QUOTE]
Great post and information. Thanks as I have used that pharmo in the past.
Asked this question about a year ago and only got one response. Hope better response this time.
How easy is it to get Plan B (or generic) or Emergency Contraceptive Pills in HK?
The response I received last time gave a website, but I am looking for direct purchase in HK.
Can anyone help?
[QUOTE=Sweet]Day 1:
Checked into the hotel and logged onto the web to look for mongering information. First off, I had to find a nearest ATM and found one on Lockhart.
After withdrawing sufficient funds, got onto to my trek. First stop, a foot reflexology place for a good massage to take care of fatigue and travel stress. Got a decent 45 min massage for $128 HKD.
Following that took a taxi to Dreams II and decided to browse through the bars around the block. It was quite disappointing to see empty bars with girls in skimpy dressses and pushy solicitors outside the bar. Decided to check out Fenwicks but was deterred by the steep cover charge of $300. Waited outside Fenwicks and notice quite a few girls soliciting. Apparently due to the color of my skin [brown] no one approached. Also, found out that you needed to be dressed business casual to get some attention but I was dressed very informal and in jeans. No luck picking up any girl around that area and decided to head back to the hotel for a good night's sleep.[/QUOTE]
re fenwicks and the cover. cause you are brown, they are going to do that. if you walk in with a white dude, they won't charge you cover. This has been my experience every time there.
Prices are roughly the same, however which one would you guys recommend?
Thanks!
Woot,
Good stuff.
Thank you for sharing.
[QUOTE=The World]re fenwicks and the cover. cause you are brown, they are going to do that. if you walk in with a white dude, they won't charge you cover. This has been my experience every time there.[/QUOTE]That's my experience too at Fenwicks, Neptune and Laguna. Walk in with white mates (i'm UK indian) and no worries. On my own, been asked for a cover charge though not always. Last time I was showing my cousin and his chinese supplier around - fenwick asked 100HKD each which included a drink. Paid up 'cos needed to show my cousin the place. Normally I would decline or object and work my way thru it. It's not the money but the principle of it all. Hell, I spend shed loads on drinks in these places.
Also, you'll find it's more difficult for asians to pick up - some girls obviously don't go with indians - helps if you are with a group of white mates.
It's not nice and always upsets me. Live with it 'cos there's not much one can do.
Mind you, I was in Fenwick just b4 Xmas with mates and pretty tipsy. Got approached by the very pretty pino and her mate. I was standing there without a girl (having just blown out a thai girl I really fancied but who looked like trouble after a convo with her). They were both a double act and very friendly. Had a great time with them in the bar and took them both back. Not really into the 2 girl thing - was feeling self-consious and asked the less attractive girl to go into the spare room. Had an absolutely fab time with the other one and exchanged numbers. She was very GFE and quite obviously taken with my apartment and where I live.
Unfortunately I was going back to Uk for Xmas and she was only there for 2 weeks. Got a text from her asking when I was back. Got back on New Years eve but she was flying back an hour after I got in. Ah well, next time.
[QUOTE=The World]Prices are roughly the same, however which one would you guys recommend?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
It really depends on many factors. I think the only obvious fixed difference is that 37D tries to do a line up (varies based on day of week, time of day, etc) while K let's you "interview" them one at a time. The obvious variables such as the type of girl you happen to be looking for, the body type, and all the other personal preferences make it impossible to accurately make a recommendation. Your impression is correct, they are comparable. Beyond that, any recomendations are personal opinions.
[QUOTE=Manfest]It really depends on many factors. I think the only obvious fixed difference is that 37D tries to do a line up (varies based on day of week, time of day, etc) while K let's you "interview" them one at a time. The obvious variables such as the type of girl you happen to be looking for, the body type, and all the other personal preferences make it impossible to accurately make a recommendation. Your impression is correct, they are comparable. Beyond that, any recomendations are personal opinions.[/QUOTE]
Have to say, I've been to both (K Pressure probably more than 37D) and have generally been more impressed with K Pressure. Find the K Pressure girls are more GFE and a bit more fun.
However I think I've gone at funny times to 37D, as my line ups have normally been one or two girls. It may just be timing for me, i.e. having to go at peak (weekend or after work).
I went to 37D. Was much busier than I expected it to be. I was shown 3 girls, all with some extra meat on their bones, which I don't mind so much, and they were attractive enough but I've seen a lot better there. The mamasan said, "I bring you 3 girls, all big ball [tits]." As we all know, in HK "big tits" means chubby.
However Elaine looked okay and seemed to have a good attitude and I wasn't in the mood to argue. So I took her. And she did have big tits for a Chinese.
The experience was nothing remarkable, except that when we finished she tried to encourage me to give her a second shot. I declined because I knew I wouldn't be able to do it in time... the phone rang as we got into the shower, as I always take the whole time to fuck the girl.
Won't repeat but I wouldn't kick her out of bed either.
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket
For members who have used the 141 website -- are the photos generally accurate? I know a lot of them are taken by a professional photographer, or in a studio, or photoshopped and so forth. But how good a representation is it?
Can enybody give me the court ruling that was handed down on 20Dec. Ref thread 1350 on Dec 19.
Am interested to know as my girlfriend lives nder these conditions and could even be the same manager.
[QUOTE=Toki Jo]Rancher Joe, thanks for advice but are the massages carried out by females, is the decor decent with sauna and steam rooms?[/QUOTE]This is a reflexology type of place but you get a private room (not curtains) and the staff are all female unless you get a foot rub. Mostly in thier late 20's to 30's. Not skimpy outfits, just plain clothes. No sauna and no steam room.
Went to 37D second after losing my way from exit A1 at Yau Ma Tei. Took me around 15 minutes to find it. Found it eventually and took the lift to 2nd floor. I got there at around 8am and it was fairly quiet. Got ushered into a room by an enthuasiastic papasan and told to sit down. A minute later in came a girl. She had a massive rack and look early 30s. Good attitude, grabbed my cock as she was talking. Like her but I wanted someone younger. Second one came in, smaller rack, around the same age. Looked a bit disinterested so I rejected her. At this point the papasan was getting a bit impatient but I stood my ground. In came Michelle next. Late 20s, nice rack and nice face. A bit shy and passive, didn't like what I saw so I demanded a next girl despite of a bit of pushing from the papasan. Next in came Lok-Ee. Not a pretty as Michelle, but had a nice persoanity. She was bubbly and hugged me as soon as she came in. I would prefer Michelle look but Lok-Ee looks like a more complete package.
Settled on her, paid $360 to the papasan and she took me up to 5th floor I think. Paid $80 for the room and she hugged me as soon as we got in the room. We then stripped and got into the shower together. In the shower and scrub me clean everywhere. She kept cleaning my ass and junior. I was thinking enough of the ass cleaning already. I am clean but I let her do her thing not wanting to disappoint her. She looked around 25 but she told me she's 30. She has a slightly saggy B-cup but still nice to play with. Nice ass and attractive eyes. She gave me some BBBJ in the shower which was nice but not spectacular. I then jumped out of the shower and she continued to clean herself. I like the room with the mirror on the side and on the top. You can see everything which is a real turn on.
Finally she cleaned herself and asked me to lie on my chest. She then proceed to take out some wet wipes and started wiping her hand and then my ass a few times. She then stuffed a wet wipe between my arse cheek and left it there. I felt strange but let her do her thing. She then cat bath my all over and rubbed my back with her pointy long nipples which felt good. She did this for around 5 minutes. She then took the wet wipes off and checked my goods. Nodded in approval and gave me the best rimming I have ever had in my life. She was there for ages, not that I am complaining. Finally after around 10-15 minutes she told me to turn around and started to give me a great BBBJ. She was bobbing her head up and down with the right amount of pressure producing the right amount of saliva. I was really enjoying myself and thought I would have cummed if I didn't slow her down on a few occasion. She tried to deep throat me but couldn't. (Not that I am big or anything) but I appreciate her effort. She continued doing this for 10 minutes when the phone rang and said times up. I was like fuck!! She then asked me if I wanted an extension. Of course I said yes. She then continue to suck me off for the next 5-10 minutes. She said you are enjoying this aren't you and I said yes. she said you don't wanna fuck me? I said of course, let's do it now before you suck me dry. Put on a condom and did a cowgirl. Man this girl has one tight pussy and knows how to move. Plus the image in the mirror turned me on even more. She was humping and grinding like no tomorrow. She got really wet and I started to play with her ass and inserting half of a finger in. she said it hurt but let me do it gently anyway. We then switch to her favourite position, the missionary. She starting to moan real loud and started bucking her hips real hard and fast. I couldn't stand it and came. She didn't care and continue to hump and grind and she refused to let me stop. She kept asking me to continue humping and don't stop. She then asked me to assume a missionary position that gets in contact with her clit a bit more and asked me to hold it there and she started to move really vigorously. After around 3 minutes she came with a loud scream and a strong judder. Her face was all shrivelled up and she was grabbing the sheets for dear life with her hands. She had a massive orgasm and I loved it. We then just collapsed trying to gasp for air. We finally made it to the shower and I got out and got dressed. She asked me why am I dressed? Don't I want to go for another round? I would have and loved to but I had other comittments that night so I can't.
Got dressed when out of the room around 9.20pm. Piad the papasan another $180 for the extension. Had a cup of tea and got out with weak knees. Before I left, I saw a real hottie who was around 21, 5'6, drop dead gorgeous body. Will have to do her next time.
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Stubaby at any given time there are likely close to 1,000 girls living in these sorts of boarding houses and that is only counting Indos, Filas and Thais so I doubt your gf has the same manager. As for the verdict I forget but it believe it was guilty with some insignificant penalty.
[QUOTE=Stubaby 2]Can enybody give me the court ruling that was handed down on 20Dec. Ref thread 1350 on Dec 19.
Am interested to know as my girlfriend lives nder these conditions and could even be the same manager.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr Fork]For members who have used the 141 website -- are the photos generally accurate? I know a lot of them are taken by a professional photographer, or in a studio, or photoshopped and so forth. But how good a representation is it?[/QUOTE]
lets just say the guy who does the photo shopping knows his way round the software ;-)
the girls that i have gone to on the 141 sites are the girls on in the photos, but in real life don't look as stunning as in the photos.
By the way, guys, if you have in your possession Viagra without a prescription, you may be charged with unlawful possession of a poison in Hong Kong.
I am coming in on FEB 14 around 10pm and was wondering if I should proceed to CP or spend the night in HK. Anyone have any advice on this issue? It looks like the trains have stopped at this point. If I do stay in HK where should I stay? I have read extensively but not found anything on this.
Thanks,
Wingman
Was in SE Asia for a few weeks and had about 5-6 days in HK.
8 Mongok road
Managed to find the address, but didn't see anything looking like a brothel. Most likely I was not at the right spot
Shanghai&Soy Street street walkers
Walked over there a few times and they're usually 2-3 girls. Usually one is very hot. Was quoted 350 HKD for everything by the pimp. Some girls were very young and tempting but did not partake since I was scared where they would take me. So are there more girls later on? I went there around 9-11 PM and saw at most 3 girls.
WanChai
Went there one night. Saw 2 white guys coming out of a club. Tried to go in, but the mamasan stopped me and said "they are full". Is this normal? I'm asian, but definitely look western.
37 Dundas
Went up 1 flight of stairs.
Went there about 4pm. Was told they were very busy. Waited about 5-10 mins and was showned 2 girls. One younger and one a little older but with bigger tits. Chose the bigger tit one. She sat with me for about 5 mins while waiting for a room to be free up. DIdn't speak any english, so had to use my limited cantonese to speak with her. Wasn't particularly friendly or talkative, but since I had limited opportunity to monger during my time in HK, decided to continue anyway.
Once room was free, she showered/cleaned me. Gave me bbj. Had a whole bunch of napkins next to the bed and kept spitting during the bbj. Gave me bbjtocim, but pulled out and used her hand to finish. She then went into the bathroom and heard very deep throated-spits from her. Tried to go at it for a 2nd with cowgirl, but wasn't able to. To summary, it was a so-so experience since she was not very affectionate and didn't really talk much.
141 girl
Went to champaign court in TST. Rang a few bells and got a real winner. Found a local HK girl who spoke english. Quoted me 450 for 40 mins. She says she's 23 and she definitely looks it. Very slim with nice firm boobs. She was very friendly and easy to talk to. Took off my clothes and she giggled at my huge boner I got just from looking at her naked. Showered me up and then went on to cbj and fs. Had alot fun with her and was definitely the best experience I've ever had. Her name is appuru. She is in Champaigne court A 7th flr. Apt 5A. When I got home, I looked her up in 141. For a change, I think she looks much better in person than her pics since her face is pixeled out and in person she is an extremely cute girl next door look. Too bad it was my last day there, otherwise I would be going back to her everynight!
Damn, I will miss HK.
[QUOTE=FL Wingman]I am coming in on FEB 14 around 10pm and was wondering if I should proceed to CP or spend the night in HK. Anyone have any advice on this issue? It looks like the trains have stopped at this point. If I do stay in HK where should I stay? I have read extensively but not found anything on this.
[/QUOTE]
Wingman,
If you need to be in CP next day, try stay in a nice sauna overnight in HK, SZ, or Macau. Deposit your luggage at the ferry port or nearby hotel concierge.
Much more fun and better value than a HK hotel.
Cheers
HT
[QUOTE=Mr Fork]For members who have used the 141 website -- are the photos generally accurate? I know a lot of them are taken by a professional photographer, or in a studio, or photoshopped and so forth. But how good a representation is it?[/QUOTE]
The 141 photos are real working girls, but the problem is they are rarely updated. The girls move around constantly, norm for the industry, better job, another location, etc, so it is hit and miss, mostly miss. Some are just baits try to lure guys in.
The hotel incall photos are mostly baits and nothing more. What can you do once you get there? leave?
If you check 5 places you're lucky if you find one from the pic that's working at the time, and luckier if she looks like you imagined from the pic.
Just goto a 141 building and start knocking on doors and see who is behind door #1. Some have names and pics and hours posted outside. You won't get the same girl twice in one week.
HT
Going to HK first time in March and looking for hotels advice.
Anyone stayed in Metropark Kowloon (Formerly known as "The Metropole Hotel") How it is?
True. Just about all the massage joints in Shenzhen will allow you to stay overnight for free, if it's late and you spend enough. Typical is if you start you massage around midnight, and get a 2 hour oily massage. Typical bill for a small place is around 150 rmb or so. Great value if you just need a place to crash for the night. And you get a massage too.
Note: this does not apply to Queen's sauna, it's much more expensive there.
[QUOTE=Hat Trick]Wingman,
If you need to be in CP next day, try stay in a nice sauna overnight in HK, SZ, or Macau. Deposit your luggage at the ferry port or nearby hotel concierge.
Much more fun and better value than a HK hotel.
Cheers
HT[/QUOTE]
Was my initial post asking for help ignored on purpose?
Most of Shenzhen massage places will let you stay overnight if you get a massage for min 3 hours.
Let us say you go in at 9 pm and get 3 hour massage and even if you fall asleep they will put the comforter on you after the massage, turn the light off and close the door. There is no need to hurry out in the morning. Take your time , use the sauna facilities, shave, brush your teeth etc. All the rooms are really clean. But going for unwanted massage to get a room to sleep is not wise. You can get equally good rooms for 60-80 RMB at some small hotels. You can even bring in a girl.
[QUOTE=Billpsu]I will be in Hong Kong for the first time next month and will have a Sunday afternoon free.
As my significant other will be with me (she is visiting her niece), any suggestions on a good massage parlor. I will be staying at the Eaton Hotel.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
I am not a Hong Kong expert and do not know the locations of Hong Kong massages. If I had the afternoon free I would go to harbor and buy a trip to Macau and go the 18 Sauna in the Golden Dragon Hotel in Macau. Please go to Macau on ISG to get info.
Or I would try the 141 girls. There is a building at 81 Nathan Road called Harilela Mansion that has a group of girls.
The Hong Kong experts must tell you about massages in Hong Kong.
Has anyone been able to get pics from 37Dundas or 141 girls?
I asked the girl at 37D, but she adamantly refused.
I was so mezmerized by the 141 girl, i forgot to ask her.
[QUOTE=Noman2]Going to HK first time in March and looking for hotels advice.
Anyone stayed in Metropark Kowloon (Formerly known as "The Metropole Hotel") How it is?[/QUOTE]I just came back from HK and stayed there.
It is the one on Lai Chi Kok road.
Very convenient and clean, the airport bus stops right in front of it.
Make sure you get a VIP room on the 9th or 10th flr.
Hello all,
Recently I noted there are some girls (looks like Columbian) stayed at the staircase behind Fenwicks. Anyone know what are they doing? Or any price for them?
Thanks!!
[QUOTE=Pointpanic]I am not a Hong Kong expert and do not know the locations of Hong Kong massages. If I had the afternoon free I would go to harbor and buy a trip to Macau and go the 18 Sauna in the Golden Dragon Hotel in Macau. Please go to Macau on ISG to get info.
Or I would try the 141 girls. There is a building at 81 Nathan Road called Harilela Mansion that has a group of girls.
The Hong Kong experts must tell you about massages in Hong Kong.[/QUOTE]More familiar with HK side. Tons in North Point and a good one in Causeway Bay (called Blue Sky). On Kowloon side, there's Sun Hot Sauna (you can find the place in one of those tourist maps that they pass out) in TST (nice facilities but the only two times I've been there had sort of bad service). There are few more in East TST, Noble Sauna and can't remember the name of the other one.
Can someone give me the exact location of K Pressure.
Yes, I have searched previous post and all I came up with were comments prefaced with: "its about here."
Also, I noticed someone called it "Man's Paradise," what is the correct name.
Any information would be helpful.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Billpsu]Can someone give me the exact location of K Pressure.
Yes, I have searched previous post and all I came up with were comments prefaced with: "its about here."
Also, I noticed someone called it "Man's Paradise," what is the correct name.
Any information would be helpful.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]Suggest you look at Maps section. Pictures of the entrance and location maps have been provided. A lot of work done by Tiger 888
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Stargm]Suggest you look at Maps section. Pictures of the entrance and location maps have been provided. A lot of work done by Tiger 888[/QUOTE]
I would like to make a quite public response to the following:
[QUOTE=Ks457]learn how to use the PM function. The entire board does not need to see your "thank you".
With 308 posts, you should know better, but then again, looking at your old posts, it looks like not knowing better is how you got to 308 posts anyhow.
Also, please do not demand that people on the board help you. Especially since the information you were seeking could have been found on the ROD section.[/QUOTE]
1.Good manners (i.e., Thank you) - public or otherwise - is never inconvenient.
2. Thank you researching my previous posts, and giving your sage conclusion. I think you need a hobby.
3. Lastly, I never "demanded" anything. Notwhithstanding, I believe the purpose of this board is to assist each other.
[QUOTE=Chan James]Hello all,
Recently I noted there are some girls (looks like Columbian) stayed at the staircase behind Fenwicks. Anyone know what are they doing? Or any price for them?
Thanks!![/QUOTE]Sometimes some Colombians sell colombian food at these stairs and the girls go there to eat. Next day they sell some clothes which somebody brought from Shenzen or Guangzhou. If you close with a colombian and she takes you there it is nice, because the food really tastes good.
Hi,
I have a few friends coming to HK from the 7th to the 10th Feb. I understand that's not the very best time to visit HK, but this was a good match for all of them. This is the first time I am in HK during Chinese New Year and I am getting a little scared that everything is closed. To cut it short, any idea if the likes of Fenwick and Neptune are going to be open during those days? Or at least onfriday/saturday? What abt the 141?
Any idea about non chinese restaurant and normal bars during those days?
I think my friends would kill me if everything is shut down!
Thanks,
Trouble
On Feb 29 and March 1 my brother and his friend will be in HK, staying in Kowloon hotel. That is a Friday and Saturday. My brother has been in HK twice and knows the general area of Kowloon but not HK Central. They want to go bar hopping and I gave them three bars to go to: Hari's, JJ's in Hyatt and Sticky Fingers(do not know if he can find SF) It will be the other man's FIRST night in Asia.
I told them to go to Macau on Saturday for 18 Sauna and my brother knows about the 141 situation.
Are there any other tips to give him? Tsieh tsieh.
BTW I thank you guys for mentioning the three bars in your posts. I would not about them but for ISG.
[QUOTE=Tom Hay]Went to 37D second after losing my way from exit A1 at Yau Ma Tei.
Settled on her, paid $360 to the papasan and she took me up to 5th floor I think. Paid $80 for the room.
She continued doing this for 10 minutes when the phone rang and said times up. I was like fuck!! She then asked me if I wanted an extension. Of course I said yes.
She asked me why am I dressed? Don't I want to go for another round? I would have and loved to but I had other comittments that night so I can't.
Piad the papasan another $180 for the extension.[/QUOTE]
This was a trick to get an extension. A few years ago, the papasan/mamasan actually used to discourage this behaviour. However, with the decrease in business volume, I guess it is now tolearted. A really good deal of $440 become $620. Of course, that all depended on the girl and whether you had a really goood time or not. If the service was poor, then beware that the girl was just spending a long time on the prliminaries to get the extra $180 for the extension.
Don't worry, most if not all of the bars and businesses in Hong Kong maintain normal operating hours during the Lunar New Year. The New Year's eve is a traditional 'stay at home with family day' for the locals. Some shops and restuarants may close early on that day. Most remain open. Fenwicks and Neptunes will definitely be open.
[QUOTE=Trouble79]Hi,
I have a few friends coming to HK from the 7th to the 10th Feb. I understand that's not the very best time to visit HK, but this was a good match for all of them. This is the first time I am in HK during Chinese New Year and I am getting a little scared that everything is closed. To cut it short, any idea if the likes of Fenwick and Neptune are going to be open during those days? Or at least onfriday/saturday? What abt the 141?
Any idea about non chinese restaurant and normal bars during those days?
I think my friends would kill me if everything is shut down!
Thanks,
Trouble[/QUOTE]
[quote=acer v]don't worry, most if not all of the bars and businesses in hong kong maintain normal operating hours during the lunar new year. the new year's eve is a traditional 'stay at home with family day' for the locals. some shops and restuarants may close early on that day. most remain open. fenwicks and neptunes will definitely be open.[/quote]there are two days in the year where the hordes are out downtown and i try to avoid being there if possible. that's christmas eve and the second day of chinese new year in the evening (between 6 and 10 pm) when they do the fireworks. tst will be closed for traffic, mtr entries are one way only and you can't decide the direction and the speed you walk at. but even then bars and restaurants are mostly open.
[quote=tiger 888]there are two days in the year where the hordes are out downtown and i try to avoid being there if possible. that's christmas eve and the second day of chinese new year in the evening (between 6 and 10 pm) when they do the fireworks. tst will be closed for traffic, mtr entries are one way only and you can't decide the direction and the speed you walk at. but even then bars and restaurants are mostly open.[/quote]will there be girls at 37d and k-pressure on the night of the 9th of feb?
[quote=tiger 888]there are two days in the year where the hordes are out downtown and i try to avoid being there if possible. that's christmas eve and the second day of chinese new year in the evening (between 6 and 10 pm) when they do the fireworks. tst will be closed for traffic, mtr entries are one way only and you can't decide the direction and the speed you walk at. but even then bars and restaurants are mostly open.[/quote]will there be girls the night of feb 9th in 37d/k-pressure?
i landed in hong kong after 11pm on monday night. rushed through immigration, changed some money, ran to the train, and finally ended up in my hotel on the kowloon side around 12:30. so now here i am, wide awake and horny.
i figured my options were to call for a hotel reservation on 141, walk over to either sticky fingers or the holiday inn, or bite the bullet and take a cab to fenwicks in wanchai. i did call 141 and spoke to a guy who spoke english, but the terms did not thrill me and it would only be for 45 minutes and he was quoting a lot for an overnight. my past experiences at sticky fingers or holiday inn were never great, so fenwicks won.
got there around 1:15am and the place had a good crowd. so i did my usual stroll around the place to see what might interest me. i had one vietnamese girl try to latch on to me, but it just didn't feel right. and then i started talking to a really nice looking girl from laos. she wanted 1500 for st. since it was almost 2am by then, i countered with 1000 until morning since i was over on the kowloon side. she didn't counter, but gave me a kiss on the cheek and moved off.
so i strolled around some more looking. my feeling is that when a good one comes along you will know it. and sure enough, she came along. i am just standing there minding my own business and suddenly this nice looking girl comes up to me, wraps her arms around me, and says she wants to fuck me tonight- a very aggressive approach.
i was trying to figure out if she was drunk or what, but she did seem to be in control of herself. it was really easy to have a real conversation with her. she told me she was 29, but the body looked solid and she told me she had never had any kids. i found out she was from the philippines but spoke excellent english. she had been married to a dutch guy and was working to keep her house in the philippines
she was definitely pushing hard for me to take her. i asked how much for overnight and she said 1500. i countered with 1200 and she accepted. and off we went in the taxi.
and the taxi ride was something. we get in and the first thing i know she is on my lap facing me. and then she is on the floor ready to pull the zipper open and give me a bj right there. i calmed her down a bit, figured it best to wait until we got back to the room.
in the room, the only word i can use to describe is that she essentially raped me. with no hesitation she immediately goes into an incredible bbbj that ended with a cim. this girl was really good . we manged two more pops before she finally left in the morning.
all in all a really good evening. i have only been to fenwick's twice now and both times have pulled out winners. i hope third time will be just as good.
[QUOTE=Pointpanic]On Feb 29 and March 1 my brother and his friend will be in HK, staying in Kowloon hotel. That is a Friday and Saturday. My brother has been in HK twice and knows the general area of Kowloon but not HK Central. They want to go bar hopping and I gave them three bars to go to: Hari's, JJ's in Hyatt and Sticky Fingers(do not know if he can find SF) It will be the other man's FIRST night in Asia.
I told them to go to Macau on Saturday for 18 Sauna and my brother knows about the 141 situation.
Are there any other tips to give him? Tsieh tsieh.
BTW I thank you guys for mentioning the three bars in your posts. I would not about them but for ISG.[/QUOTE]
JJ's is at the Hong Kong side Grand Hyatt, at wanchai North - and if they can make it to Hong Kong side, then they can manage to go to Lockhart Road, wanchai (where most P4P action for Foreigners are to be found) nearby or to Lan Kwai Fong in Central district where its more of a pick up scene - but of course still interspersed with some ladies of the night prowling around. A sort of similar but toned down area in Kowloon that is "inspired" by Lan Kwai Fong is the Knutsford Terrace area in Tsim Sha Tsui parrallel to Kimberley Road cross of Observatory road. BTW - kimberley rd is where Champagne Court A and B - where there are a lot of 1441's are.
Se Asia Joe
Hi
A very nice report.
The fenwik do you mean the shopping centre? which floor are the girls in coffe shops?/ or they just walk around????? whats the origin of this horny girl????
Thanks for info.
ESSI
[QUOTE=Essi]Hi
A very nice report.
The fenwik do you mean the shopping centre? which floor are the girls in coffe shops?/ or they just walk around????? whats the origin of this horny girl????
Thanks for info.
ESSI[/QUOTE]
Fenwicks is a bar on Lockhard Street in Wanchai. It is filled with lots of freelance girls. Basically it is shooting ducks in a barrel. Impossible to miss as long as you have money.
The lady in question was from the Philippines and she was about as horny as they come. I am still recovering, but I will probably see her again on Thursday night. I am feeling lazy tonight and also not very horny, so I may just pop into Sticky Fingers for a look.
With the cratering of the Hang Seng over the past few days, maybe it's a good chance to go bargain shopping!
Not very familiar with the Flipper scene, but many of the 141 girls I've know like to play the market. When the market goes down so severely, they realize that they need to work harder!
Thoughts?
ok, so night #2 and i am still not really feeling like doing anything. out to a business dinner and back to the hotel around 9:30. i do some work in the room and decide it is time to check out what is happening around the shangri la where i am staying.
i peek into the hotel bar and see what looks to be a working chinese girl sitting alone in the bar with an empty chair next to her. i consider taking the seat but figure if she is working the shangri la she is looking for megabucks. she is not really the greatest looking, more like a 6 or 7 on a scale of 10. not really my type, but not totally rejectable.
so i go out to check out sticky fingers. as usual they have a great band in there playing. i manage to stand there for a whole set with no one, including the waitresses bothering me. but in the sparse crowd i don't see any girls of interest.
i meander on out and am now debating whether i want to walk over to the holiday inn. but i am lazy and not really horny and decide to go back to the hotel. i can't resist checking on my one chinese working girl to see how she is doing. and guess what, she is still sitting there alone. i can't resist and take the stool next to her.
at first she is pretty quiet but then we get to talking. she is 25, from beijing and has been in hk for a week. so now i figure it is time to get the pitch to take he up to the room. but when i ask what she is doing in hk, she tells me she is here working on a film. she is the director's assistant. i am naturally suspicious but just maybe there is a freebie in here. she tells me she has to work the next day at 9am - a real working girl maybe.
she keeps telling my how she really likes to mixed race babies and wants one of her own. this gets repeated several times and she is telling me how she wants a western nose like mine. am i being set up to be a sperm donor? the thought does cross my mind.
she sticks to the film story although i keep trying to shake it. we talk and close the bar in the hotel. i suggest we heard over to sticky fingers and see the band for one more drink. she agrees and even tells me she is willing to just go up to the room. but i figure if this is going to be a freebie, i should not appear too anxious.
over in stickly fingers the place is now more filled up with filipino working girls. but as per my previous observations there the clientel is older and the girls equally over the hill. i only saw one or two i would bother with.
we do one drink there and then it is back to the room. i think this is going to be something, a freebie in hk. but alas, back in the room just when the action is about to begin, she asks if i am going to give her money. what the f**k?
she wanted $2000 hk and after the previous night, there was no way she could have compared to that at much less for overnight. she only wanted the money to go shopping. since i was not thinking of doing any mongering i had not changed any money and was low on hk money. she offered to take my us cash, but in the end i decided it wasn't worth it. it was late and i had to get up early.
i gave her $100hk for generous cab fare. i told her she can't spring the money thing at the last minute. if she had been upfront downstairs, i would have told her no thanks and been on my way, but she stuck to this story that she was an normal girl and never talked about money . i kind of knew all along that this would be the outcome and maybe i should have brought up the money myself, but when she claims she is there on normal business, i am not going to insult her by offering money. i know that is a good way to get a drink thrown in your face with many non-working girls.
so the freebie in the end wasn't. i had a good time though for a while. if i had not had the great night before, i might been angry. but all in all this made for a soft adventure and story - i probably would not have been any good last night anyway. i don't think there was much left from the first one.
[QUOTE=Thor93] My past experiences at Sticky Fingers or Holiday Inn were never great, so Fenwicks won. [/QUOTE]Have always been interested in the wan chai scene.
But whats it like for Chinese. Are the girls more reluctant to approach locals?
Are there many Chinese in places like Fenwicks and Neptune?
Selling Short Against the Box ;-)
[QUOTE=Neuromancer]With the cratering of the Hang Seng over the past few days, maybe it's a good chance to go bargain shopping!
Not very familiar with the Flipper scene, but many of the 141 girls I've know like to play the market. When the market goes down so severely, they realize that they need to work harder!
Thoughts?[/QUOTE]
[quote=eee 888]have always been interested in the wan chai scene.
but whats it like for chinese. are the girls more reluctant to approach locals?
are there many chinese in places like fenwicks and neptune?[/quote]there a very few chinese in these places, be it men or working girls. fenwicks charges non-whites a cover charge. neptune and laguna welcomes all, but it seems local chinese men seem to prefer karaoke bars, massage parlors, and other more local-oriented establishments. by speech and appearance, i'm obviously american born chinese and the girls in wan chai don't have any hesitation of leaving with me. it's only when they hear me speak cantonese to the taxi driver or someone else do they ask to see my u.s. passport to make sure i'm not a cop.
[quote=gren62]there a very few chinese in these places, be it men or working girls. fenwicks charges non-whites a cover charge. neptune and laguna welcomes all, but it seems local chinese men seem to prefer karaoke bars, massage parlors, and other more local-oriented establishments. by speech and appearance, i'm obviously american born chinese and the girls in wan chai don't have any hesitation of leaving with me. it's only when they hear me speak cantonese to the taxi driver or someone else do they ask to see my u.s. passport to make sure i'm not a cop.[/quote]thanks for the reply gren. i'm actually a british born chinese. its a bit crap that fenwicks will ask for a cover charge! once heard they asked a fella for an exit fee on his way out, instead of an entrance fee! he got away with it at the end. but i'm not a big chap so i might not be so lucky. must have a gander at neptunes i guess.
Trouble 79. Public holidays can be the best times to go to Fenwick, Laguna or New Makati. All the maids will be there from 2pm onwards as they will have the day off. Good chance of a freebie. Enjoy.
[quote=gren62]there a very few chinese in these places, be it men or working girls. fenwicks charges non-whites a cover charge. neptune and laguna welcomes all, but it seems local chinese men seem to prefer karaoke bars, massage parlors, and other more local-oriented establishments. by speech and appearance, i'm obviously american born chinese and the girls in wan chai don't have any hesitation of leaving with me. it's only when they hear me speak cantonese to the taxi driver or someone else do they ask to see my u.s. passport to make sure i'm not a cop.[/quote]
actually for a chinese, lockhart road area is not "necessary." you see, this area caters to and is mostly patronized by foreigners who do not speak chinese. consequently, most of the gals there are filipinos and thais with a smattering of english speaking gals from other s.e. asian cuntries. and most chinese do not favor the darker skinned girls - especially if one has to pay such an extra premium which the foreigners seems to not mind paying.
and i'm talking about hk$1,000, 1,500 for girls that you wouldn't pay thb1,500 in thailand or pp3,000 for in pi. and these prices does not include the drinks one usually buys - cheaper if they're at one of the 'independent bars' and much higher priced "ladies drink" (hk$110 or $220 for special ladies drinks!!) at these bars with gals on staff - plus they many times got the gall to charge "bar fines" on top of that!
i've been w/foreigner friends - local ones even - who doesn't blink an eye after spending a total of hk$4 or 5,000 during the evening for a short roll at victoria hotel before going home. ridiculous prices to me!
i can get much better, lower priced and satisfying action away from lockhart rd. - and that is the reason why most chinese will not go there. and besides the action we can find in hong kong we also have the choice of hopping on a train/bus/ferry and get to shenzhen, chang ping, zhuhai and macau within the hour!
se asia joe
Thanks Tiger888,AcerV and JoeBanana for your comments.
I feel much more reassured.
Does anyone have any idea abt Macau? Is it possible to do anything interesting over NY?
Thanks,
Trouble
The best way for the non-whites to avoid the cover charge - walk in with a couple of white guys. If the meatheads on the door try to stop you just point and say "I am with them". On more than a couple of occasions I have seen either a chinese guy or some Indians being hassled as I was walking into Neptunes or Fenwicks. I have helped them out by just telling the doorman that they're with me. The door dick always backs down. I hate racism.
[QUOTE=Eee 888]Thanks for the reply Gren. I'm actually a British born Chinese. Its a bit crap that fenwicks will ask for a cover charge! Once heard they asked a fella for an exit fee on his way out, instead of an entrance fee! He got away with it at the end. But I'm not a big chap so I might not be so lucky. Must have a gander at neptunes I guess.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]
And I'm talking about HK$1,000, 1,500 for girls that you wouldn't pay THB1,500 in Thailand or PP3,000 for in PI. And these prices does not include the drinks one usually buys - cheaper if they're at one of the 'independent bars' and much higher priced "ladies drink" (HK$110 or $220 for special Ladies drinks!!) at these bars with gals on staff - PLUS they many times got the gall to charge "Bar Fines" on top of that!
SE Asia Joe[/QUOTE]
What a girl asks for and what she gets are 2 different things. If you are looking at the top 10% of girls working the scene, they don't 'work' in their home country. They would never accept local Thai or Phil prices. In fact alot of them supplement their income back in the home countries when customers in HK and Sing fly into BKK or Manila and STILL pay them offshore prices.
I agree there are alot of girls who are not worth the price they ask for but you don't give us what the alternative is.
Are you suggesting the guy just go home and jack off? Are you suggesting he take the Airport Express and take the first flight in the morning to go to BKK or Manila on a crappy airline so that his 'breakeven' fuck cost comes down?
Why do you live in HK? Don't you know that it is cheaper to live in Uganda? Are HK people stupid for paying such high rents?
I prefer SE Asian women over N Asian women for sex. You have to respect that view if you don't agree. So your suggestions of going to Shenzen etc just don't interest me.
[QUOTE=Acer V]The best way for the non-whites to avoid the cover charge - walk in with a couple of white guys. If the meatheads on the door try to stop you just point and say "I am with them". On more than a couple of occasions I have seen either a chinese guy or some Indians being hassled as I was walking into Neptunes or Fenwicks. I have helped them out by just telling the doorman that they're with me. The door dick always backs down. I hate racism.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip Acer.
Just for the record, I didn't know the majority of locals frowned on darker skinned women. I for one love bit butts and dark women. Well, a bit of everything actually.
Now where can I find some white friends hehe.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]
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I prefer SE Asian women over N Asian women for sex. You have to respect that view if you don't agree. So your suggestions of going to Shenzen etc just don't interest me.[/QUOTE]Well, if Joe's suggestion's don't interest you, then you could just ignore them couldn't you? It's not like he called you out for preferring SE Asian women. Seems to me that he was responding to a post by "Gren62", not "HK Dog". And maybe Joe's suggestion's interested some of the other readers on this board.
If you prefer SE Asian women, then why don't you live in a SE Asian country?
Your preferences for SE Asian women just don't interest me.
I tried to see 1-4-1 girl Appuru who has been mentioned on this forum before, on 7/F of Champagne Court A.
First, note that Champagne Court A isn't clearly marked. Only B is. However if you walk deeper in you will see that they connect. The elevator for A is closer to the Kimberly Inn sign.
Anyway, Appuru was not only busy, she yelled through the door that she had an appointment later, and there was another guy waiting outside. Jesus.
Didn't have a backup plan, but there were a couple of girls milling around on the other side of the elevator. So I saw one, Ah Sa. She was cute, and spoke excellent English so guys who don't speak Chinese, consider her. She started fucking me without a shower. After about 10 min. I told her I wanted to shower. So after we showered she didn't want to keep going, even though I hadn't finished. She thought I was done and wanted to go again, and wanted me to pay her twice. WTF? I don't think so. So we kept going and I paid the normal price but let her keep the change.
Nothing special but did the trick.
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket
PS there are some new 1-4-1-type sites on the internet. Anybody have any luck with them?
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]I tried to see 1-4-1 girl Appuru who has been mentioned on this forum before, on 7/F of Champagne Court A.
First, note that Champagne Court A isn't clearly marked. Only B is. However if you walk deeper in you will see that they connect. The elevator for A is closer to the Kimberly Inn sign.
Anyway, Appuru was not only busy, she yelled through the door that she had an appointment later, and there was another guy waiting outside. Jesus.
Didn't have a backup plan, but there were a couple of girls milling around on the other side of the elevator. So I saw one, Ah Sa. She was cute, and spoke excellent English so guys who don't speak Chinese, consider her. She started fucking me without a shower. After about 10 min. I told her I wanted to shower. So after we showered she didn't want to keep going, even though I hadn't finished. She thought I was done and wanted to go again, and wanted me to pay her twice. WTF? I don't think so. So we kept going and I paid the normal price but let her keep the change.
Nothing special but did the trick.
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket
PS there are some new 1-4-1-type sites on the internet. Anybody have any luck with them?[/QUOTE]Yeah, she's very busy.
While I was there, her door bell rang alot even with the please wait sign and as I was leaving, she answered her phone for an appointment.
But she is definitely worth the wait.
[QUOTE=Thor93]Fenwicks is a bar on Lockhard Street in Wanchai. It is filled with lots of freelance girls. Basically it is shooting ducks in a barrel. Impossible to miss as long as you have money.
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Last night in HK and I proved myself wrong about it being impossible to miss. It must have been all the guys coming in from some formal affair dressed in kilts. It seems to have upset the balance of things in there.
I met two very nice, very young, very inexperienced filipino girls. One was 18 and it was her very first night. You could see she was shy and the two of them were basically hiding in the corner. I finally got them off on the side and got to talking to them.
It was the usual story you get when you listen. No money back in the philippines. They need to work but hate it. The older one shows me a picture of her baby and starts crying. The younger one is overwhelmed by the whole thing. It was enough to make me feel guilty.
Anyway I tried to talk them into leaving with me, but they were quite content to just wander around and avoid anything serious. The younger one said next time. I watched them repeat the same act with other guys. They were there to work but weren't really into it. I guess they thought if they gave me a good enough sob story I would slip them some money.
It was that kind of night though, I wandered around between Fenwicks, Laguna, and Neptunes, but never found the right girl. I finally gave up at 4:30 and reluctantly headed back to the hotel alone.
Some nights even the best of us can't hit one of the ducks in the barrel.
[QUOTE=Neuromancer]Well, if Joe's suggestion's don't interest you, then you could just ignore them couldn't you? It's not like he called you out for preferring SE Asian women. Seems to me that he was responding to a post by "Gren62", not "HK Dog". And maybe Joe's suggestion's interested some of the other readers on this board.
If you prefer SE Asian women, then why don't you live in a SE Asian country?
Your preferences for SE Asian women just don't interest me.[/QUOTE]
Yes he did. Reread his post. It says the 'premium' is something only foreigners pay which implies it is wrong.
His whole argument makes no sense. Why does he live in HK? Doesn't he know it is alot cheaper to live in Shenzen and commute? That is the same argument he gives for not paying a Thai girl in HK a 'premium' since its cheaper in BKK.
If he doesn't do the same on his housing situation then he is just being hypocritical.
HK Dog,
Has it not occurred to you that SEA Joe (and others) may have reasons to live in HK that are not mongering related? It may be because of family, business/job, safety, whatever. Mongering is only a hobby.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Yes he did. Reread his post. It says the 'premium' is something only foreigners pay which implies it is wrong.
His whole argument makes no sense. Why does he live in HK? Doesn't he know it is alot cheaper to live in Shenzen and commute? That is the same argument he gives for not paying a Thai girl in HK a 'premium' since its cheaper in BKK.
If he doesn't do the same on his housing situation then he is just being hypocritical.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Yes he did. Reread his post. It says the 'premium' is something only foreigners pay which implies it is wrong.
His whole argument makes no sense. Why does he live in HK? Doesn't he know it is alot cheaper to live in Shenzen and commute? That is the same argument he gives for not paying a Thai girl in HK a 'premium' since its cheaper in BKK.
If he doesn't do the same on his housing situation then he is just being hypocritical.[/QUOTE]
I do not understnad why you are arguing with SE Asia Joe. Maybe he wants or needs to live in HK for business or family reasons. Like many HK residents, he goes to CP for short visits. He has the best of many worlds. He liveis in bustling HK and takes a train or van to CP whenever he wants.
He is right. Wanchai is not the local Chinese
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Yes he did. Reread his post. It says the 'premium' is something only foreigners pay which implies it is wrong.
His whole argument makes no sense. Why does he live in HK? Doesn't he know it is alot cheaper to live in Shenzen and commute? That is the same argument he gives for not paying a Thai girl in HK a 'premium' since its cheaper in BKK.
If he doesn't do the same on his housing situation then he is just being hypocritical.[/QUOTE]Re-reading his post, he said "especially if one has to pay such an extra premium which the Foreigners seems to not mind paying". That's a far cry from saying that "only foreigners pay" and that it is "wrong". I (and I assume many other Asians) pay a hefty premium in Macau (relative to 141 girls) and I don't see anything wrong with it as I view it as a much higher quality product.
Don't be so sensitive dude.
SEJ, I don't know Chang Ping. Can you elaborate a bit please.
[QUOTE=Joe Banana]SEJ, I don't know Chang Ping. Can you elaborate a bit please.[/QUOTE]Check the China-Dongguan thread. Tons of info on Chang Ping. Seems like there have been alot of crackdowns lately, so probably not the best time to go right now.
Basically, CP has alot of cheap pussy and also some higher end ones. Personally prefer the higher end ones, but don't mind going a little ghetto once in a while.
Have only been to the Dongguan area three times so it's not like I'm an expert or anything, but happy to help if you have any questions.
[QUOTE=Neuromancer]Re-reading his post, he said "especially if one has to pay such an extra premium which the Foreigners seems to not mind paying". That's a far cry from saying that "only foreigners pay" and that it is "wrong". I (and I assume many other Asians) pay a hefty premium in Macau (relative to 141 girls) and I don't see anything wrong with it as I view it as a much higher quality product.
Don't be so sensitive dude.[/QUOTE]
Why is it justified for you to ask me why I don't live in a SE Asian country when I like SE Asian woman? When I asked why SE Asia Joe why he doesn't live in Shenzen or Uganda because the rent is cheaper that apparantly isn't the same argument.
I never complained about the cost of pussy and understand that if you live in HK you have to pay the higher price for pussy and rent because of other factors.
There is NO premium for SE Asian pussy. It shows a total lack of understanding of basic economics that the hookers seem to have figured out but some mongerers are still scratching their heads.
If you were a Thai hooker and you can get a 14 visa to HK, they can figure out the choices.
Fuck 1 guy every day in Thailand for 1,500 Baht netting you 5,300 HKD profit.
Or go to HK where SE Asia Joe thinks they should charge the same price.
So they make 5,300 but then subtract the plane ticket (-2,000) subtract the rent (100 HKD per day , 1,400) subtract food (50 per day 700) which leaves you net 3,200.
For Flippers the costs are even higher since they usually have to pay an 'agent' to get into the country.
Why would someone in their right mind take a 40% paycut? You have to fuck 6 more guys just to make the same money if you stayed in Thailand.
The premium is the fixed costs that must be amortized over time. If I am in HK and I want to fuck a SE Asian chick I have 2 choices. Pay the price in HK or fly down. The cost for 1 fuck when you include plane fare and hotel is far higher than just paying the price in HK. .
Chinese pussy is cheaper since the girls are to fucking up to 10 guys per day. There marginal cost for a fuck goes down dramatically. Thai's and Flippers can't get into the assembly line fuck machine (like 141's etc) so their marginal cost of a fuck remains high.
I have things to do on the weekends in HK and am not willing to fly to Thailand/Phillipines for the weekend every time I want to get laid. So it is far cheaper for me to fuck in HK.
New bar similar Sticky Fingers , Knutsford terrace , Tsim Sha Tsui.
Have fun - but watch out for the Thais.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Why is it justified for you to ask me why I don't live in a SE Asian country when I like SE Asian woman? When I asked why SE Asia Joe why he doesn't live in Shenzen or Uganda because the rent is cheaper that apparantly isn't the same argument.
I never complained about the cost of pussy and understand that if you live in HK you have to pay the higher price for pussy and rent because of other factors.
There is NO premium for SE Asian pussy. It shows a total lack of understanding of basic economics that the hookers seem to have figured out but some mongerers are still scratching their heads.
If you were a Thai hooker and you can get a 14 visa to HK, they can figure out the choices.
Fuck 1 guy every day in Thailand for 1,500 Baht netting you 5,300 HKD profit.
Or go to HK where SE Asia Joe thinks they should charge the same price.
So they make 5,300 but then subtract the plane ticket (-2,000) subtract the rent (100 HKD per day , 1,400) subtract food (50 per day 700) which leaves you net 3,200.
For Flippers the costs are even higher since they usually have to pay an 'agent' to get into the country.
Why would someone in their right mind take a 40% paycut? You have to fuck 6 more guys just to make the same money if you stayed in Thailand.
The premium is the fixed costs that must be amortized over time. If I am in HK and I want to fuck a SE Asian chick I have 2 choices. Pay the price in HK or fly down. The cost for 1 fuck when you include plane fare and hotel is far higher than just paying the price in HK. .
Chinese pussy is cheaper since the girls are to fucking up to 10 guys per day. There marginal cost for a fuck goes down dramatically. Thai's and Flippers can't get into the assembly line fuck machine (like 141's etc) so their marginal cost of a fuck remains high.
I have things to do on the weekends in HK and am not willing to fly to Thailand/Phillipines for the weekend every time I want to get laid. So it is far cheaper for me to fuck in HK.[/QUOTE]Well, I think that you've completely convoluted the whole argument. I don't see where anybody is disputing your economic case. From my interpretation of previous posts, all Joe said was that:
1) In HK, relative to other options in HK, there is a premium for Flipper p*ssy. There's nothing wrong with this if you prefer Flipper p*ssy. There are numerous examples of mongerers paying a premium to get what they want. Think about all the Chinese running to KTVs. The premium there is much higher than the Flipper premium. And I fully admit that I'm happy to pay that premium because I get a different product. One that I am willing to pay for. Of course, I you can't have filet mignon every day. Gotta mix it in with the fast food burgers.
2) Wan Chai is not for Chinese. I've only been to the WG bars a couple times. If I go there, I usually prefer the cheap drinking holes. But of the times I've been there, the ratio of Chinese men to White men is what. 1: 9? Something like that? So CLEARLY, Chinese men do NOT like Wan Chai. As a Chinese man, I DO NOT like Wan Chai action. Hey, no problem. I'm sure most white dudes DO NOT KTV. It's not a statement of what is "better". It's just a simple observation.
Ok, I'm done wasting my time on you.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Why is it justified for you to ask me why I don't live in a SE Asian country when I like SE Asian woman? When I asked why SE Asia Joe why he doesn't live in Shenzen or Uganda because the rent is cheaper that apparantly isn't the same argument.
I never complained about the cost of pussy and understand that if you live in HK you have to pay the higher price for pussy and rent because of other factors.
There is NO premium for SE Asian pussy. It shows a total lack of understanding of basic economics that the hookers seem to have figured out but some mongerers are still scratching their heads.
If you were a Thai hooker and you can get a 14 visa to HK, they can figure out the choices.
Fuck 1 guy every day in Thailand for 1,500 Baht netting you 5,300 HKD profit.
Or go to HK where SE Asia Joe thinks they should charge the same price.
So they make 5,300 but then subtract the plane ticket (-2,000) subtract the rent (100 HKD per day , 1,400) subtract food (50 per day 700) which leaves you net 3,200.
For Flippers the costs are even higher since they usually have to pay an 'agent' to get into the country.
Why would someone in their right mind take a 40% paycut? You have to fuck 6 more guys just to make the same money if you stayed in Thailand.
The premium is the fixed costs that must be amortized over time. If I am in HK and I want to fuck a SE Asian chick I have 2 choices. Pay the price in HK or fly down. The cost for 1 fuck when you include plane fare and hotel is far higher than just paying the price in HK. .
Chinese pussy is cheaper since the girls are to fucking up to 10 guys per day. There marginal cost for a fuck goes down dramatically. Thai's and Flippers can't get into the assembly line fuck machine (like 141's etc) so their marginal cost of a fuck remains high.
I have things to do on the weekends in HK and am not willing to fly to Thailand/Phillipines for the weekend every time I want to get laid. So it is far cheaper for me to fuck in HK.[/QUOTE]
Everything you said is true. Thais and Viet girls are more expensive in HK or Macau than in Thailand or Vietnam One has to pay the shipping costs. SEA Joe is correct when he says that local Chinese men do not want to pay the shipping costs and do not really appreciate SE Asian girls.
After reading a lot of different and very useful posts here about the 141 girls, I finally did the Hotel Reservation route. Saw a really nice looking Chinese, non-english speaking girl. Called the number, they told me to get to the hotel in half an hour.
The hotel was probably a 2-3 star hotel with an english name. Lots of tourists there, so I felt very safe and comfortable.
Called again from the lobby of the designated hotel and got the room number. Went upstairs and got greeted by the girl who was every bit as good as her picture. The room while small, was clean.
All in all, very good value for the money. She could not speak any english, but that was no problem. I did bring my own condom which was a good thing. Hers looked awfully small. The session was really good though as she appeared to really get into it also.
The trick in setting this up for us non-Chinese speakers is to make sure you find someone on the phone that speaks decent english to guide you to the hotel. The first number I called, I could not understand what hotel they were directing me to. They offered to talk to the taxi driver, but I was not comfortable with that. Called another number and had no difficulty understanding them. Found out I could actually walk to the hotel rather than have to take a cab.
dear mate,
as i still have 1 plance ticket to hk whihc is soon to be expired. i wish i can visit macau and evetually to hsia chuan tao.
i need your guidance on the following questions;
1) i will only enroute to macau thru hk airport, i understand their is the speed boat but i don't. know how much it cost and how frequent the schedule/ per 30 mins or per hours in every hours? and how many mins for the journey?
2) when i get to macau, how can i get to the next and final destionation of my trip which is hsia chuan tao "下川島". i understand there are busses from macau to that place but i want to know if i can take speed boat to the said island, since i was there only 1 times and last time was accompanied by some friends, which i wont be asking their giudance for some reason.
i wish to visit that place this coming march after the chinese new years and i need to start workinjg on the plan very soon.
will appreiciate for your guidance.
cheers,
md
[quote=macho dik]--cut--
1) i will only enroute to macau thru hk airport, i understand their is the speed boat but i don't. know how much it cost and how frequent the schedule/ per 30 mins or per hours in every hours? and how many mins for the journey?
2) when i get to macau, how can i get to the next and final destionation of my trip which is hsia chuan tao "???". i understand there are busses from macau to that place but i want to know if i can take speed boat to the said island, since i was there only 1 times and last time was accompanied by some friends, which i wont be asking their giudance for some reason.[/quote]
i assume you know how to get to the ferry desk in the airport. at that desk, last i saw about 3 weeks ago, there were ferries starting around 10:40 am until 10 pm, every 1-2 hours depending on time of day (ie less frequent early and late, more frequent middle of day). the cost was less than hkd 200, don't recall exactly. reminder that if you have check in luggage, you usually cannot catch the very next ferry, but rather one that has at least an hour wait time. no luggage = immediate departure. there is a line to get through the gates, bus ride, other terminal entry, etc. this boat takes just under an hour, but still the most convenient imho.
if you arrive at some odd hour (read 11pm - 6am), just get to either kowloon or central macau ferry terminal and catch one of the 24 hour ferries (about hkd 150 plus cost of getting to the terminal). there are cabs (about hkd 300-400), train (airport express, about hkd 90), bus (a11, about hkd 40, another cost of 40 minutes).
last few details: the bus and cab gets you directly to the macau terminal, the train is far and must be walked or cabbed. the ferries are no longer as empty as they used to be, and during weekends, may require waiting for the next boat. the time cost when added up is quite high, take the boat if you can, otherwise cab it to the terminals.
in return for this info, what is hsia chuan tao? please tell us more about it... a new mongering site?
[QUOTE=Manfest]In return for this info, what is HSIA CHUAN TAO? Please tell us more about it... a new mongering site?[/QUOTE]
MachoDik,
It seems you've asked numerous times how to get to Macau or Hsia Chuan Tao, but provided no information about it. Tiger888 seemed to answer your questions already a few months ago... Your serial requests for help without contributing is not the purpose of the board. Nevertheless, I'll leave the info as it may help others. Cheers.
M
[QUOTE=Pointpanic]Everything you said is true. Thais and Viet girls are more expensive in HK or Macau than in Thailand or Vietnam One has to pay the shipping costs. SEA Joe is correct when he says that local Chinese men do not want to pay the shipping costs and do not really appreciate SE Asian girls.[/QUOTE]
Point Panic, Neuromancer, Wadman et al - thanks! I haven't looked at the Hong Kong thread for a week or so and just found all THIS!! Incredible! and I thought that all I was doing was replying Gren62 and giving a vanilla flavored write up about really - really - general stuff!
Hey HK Dog - what is the problem man?
I've read some of your past postings and hey - You like SE Asia Women - go for it. You don't like Chinese gals - that's fine also. Just please don't get on my case coz I ain't got nuthin' to do with you and never even refered to you before. OK?
Peace and Chill! OK?
SE Asia Joe
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Point Panic, Neuromancer, Wadman et al - thanks! I haven't looked at the Hong Kong thread for a week or so and just found all THIS!! Incredible! and I thought that all I was doing was replying Gren62 and giving a vanilla flavored write up about really - really - general stuff!
Hey HK Dog - what is the problem man?
I've read some of your past postings and hey - You like SE Asia Women - go for it. You don't like Chinese gals - that's fine also. Just please don't get on my case coz I ain't got nuthin' to do with you and never even refered to you before. OK?
Peace and Chill! OK?
SE Asia Joe[/QUOTE]Lol, it's sort of funny how it's only those dudes who prefer the SE Asian/Wan Chai girls tend to get up in a tizzy when accused of "paying a premium". Seem to recall plenty of posts calling out "foolish Chinese mongers" who pay ridiculous sums of money for KTV and not getting much in return (hey, that sounds like me! ). But don't see anywhere near the defensive reactions to these accusations.
As a disclaimer, I haven't done a detailed study of past posts to count the accusations and defensive remarks. My above comment is merely a reflection of my un-scientific impressions.
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Point Panic, Neuromancer, Wadman et al - thanks! I haven't looked at the Hong Kong thread for a week or so and just found all THIS!! Incredible! and I thought that all I was doing was replying Gren62 and giving a vanilla flavored write up about really - really - general stuff!
Hey HK Dog - what is the problem man?
I've read some of your past postings and hey - You like SE Asia Women - go for it. You don't like Chinese gals - that's fine also. Just please don't get on my case coz I ain't got nuthin' to do with you and never even refered to you before. OK?
Peace and Chill! OK?
SE Asia Joe[/QUOTE]The price for Flipper and other SE Asian p*ssy in Mong Kok is quite a bit lower isn't it? Seem to remember HKD300-500 or so. Ok, I have absolutely zero idea what these girls look like, but it sort of implies that the economic/shipping fee argument is not correct? Or maybe that the type of girls you would find in MK would be rejected upon application in their home country and that the earnings in HK is just slightly more than the shipping fee since the opportunity cost back home is essentially nil (hence the girl still makes more money from working in HK)?
Of course, you don't get the drinking, flirting, stolen kisses that you'll get from playing in Wan Chai. In the end, I'm thinking that Wan Chai is not so different from KTV. You pay a premium for the flirting and gamesmanship. Same game, different skin color.
Thoughts?
[QUOTE=Neuromancer]. Ok, I have absolutely zero idea what these girls look like, but it sort of implies that the economic/shipping fee argument is not correct?
Thoughts?[/QUOTE]
Those SE Asian girls working in MKK are not your typical freelancer in Wan Chai. I know a few of them on the HK side (Vietnam). They have HK ID cards from fake marriages to local men. Also some of them got involved in the assemblyline mass market scence since they owed the Triads some gambling debt.
An average working girl in Thai/Philipines would not usually be sucked into this sort of slave sex labor.
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Point Panic, Neuromancer, Wadman et al - thanks! I haven't looked at the Hong Kong thread for a week or so and just found all THIS!! Incredible! and I thought that all I was doing was replying Gren62 and giving a vanilla flavored write up about really - really - general stuff!
Hey HK Dog - what is the problem man?
I've read some of your past postings and hey - You like SE Asia Women - go for it. You don't like Chinese gals - that's fine also. Just please don't get on my case coz I ain't got nuthin' to do with you and never even refered to you before. OK?
Peace and Chill! OK?
SE Asia Joe[/QUOTE]
I admit I got overdefensive in my first posting. But you have to understand that you initial posting COULD be read a different way than you intended.
And I never said I don't like Chinese chicks. I fuck them just as much as SE Asian. I just prefer SE Asian since they seem to be bred to fuck.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]I admit I got overdefensive in my first posting. But you have to understand that you initial posting COULD be read a different way than you intended.
And I never said I don't like Chinese chicks. I fuck them just as much as SE Asian. I just prefer SE Asian since they seem to be bred to fuck.[/QUOTE]
OK - now that we've got THAT out of the way...
IMHO (and its only IMHO, HK dog - before you get all upset at me) and from chit chatting with quite a few and varied WG, KTV, Sauna, SW etc gals, the reason for the differing prices/modus operandi is simply a matter of preference and/or what the gal thinks is their best way to make money, according to their own temperament.
A 141 gal does it as they figure they can get multiple clients per day - and if they're good, they can even chalk up to as many as 12 or even 16 a day (think of those gals with guys lining up outside their door!). At say $400 @, she could make up to $6400/day or $160,000/month counting 5 red days. Wow!!, that's a lot!! A more realistic number would be say 6 a day - which still adds up to $2,400/day or $60,000/month. Less the rent and advertisement at approx $15,000, they can still clear $45,000/month.
The KTV gals - and the Wanchai Filipino/Thai/Vietnamese etc charges an average of say $1,200 per shot (and say, averages 1-1/2 client/day plus probably make a bit from Ladies drinks and/or the "drinks coupons" at the 'independent bars' of another $2 or 300, thus bringing their 'take home pay" to approximately $2,000@day/50,000@month.
But these gals only has to do the dirty a lot less frequently. Some gals i.e. the 141 gals - can do it multiple times using KY jelly, good HJ/BJ's etc, whilst others go Tong Tong Tong even once a day! And then there is the Alcohol tolerance abilities of the particular gal. Some can easily out-drink you and I - plus LOVE getting high, whilst others really suffer when drinking. And thus a non-drinker will go the 141 or Sauna way.
OK, sauna - a lot of these gals go the sauna way as they feel (not sure if correct or not!) that they have more of a choice as to whether they will only do Veggie/HJ/BJ or FS sauna - with no demands being made one way or the other - and according to what they want to do or not do that particlular day.
There are a myriad other reasons why a gal would go one way or the other - but let it suffice to say that most (of course not all, before anyone here jumps on me), prostitution - and the way one chooses to prostitue oneself - is strictly a matter of personal choice. There is hardly any more "Slave Gangers" and thus the choice of how to operate their own business is just that - their own choice. They go into contracts with their handlers with eyes at least NOT firmly shut, and they know what they are getting into BEFORE they sign or agree to their part of the bargain. And don't think that these als do not shop around for the best deal/term that suits them best. They DO!
From the above (again its only IMHO) there are as many different quality/type of gals in each category as there is Johns in the industry! It's got little to do with which particular kind of gal is superior to another. Each Gal is different - the same with each John.
So for us ISG'ers - go with what you want - the same as what these gals would do.
SE Asia Joe
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]OK - now that we've got THAT out of the way...
IMHO (and its only IMHO, HK dog - before you get all upset at me) and from chit chatting with quite a few and varied WG, KTV, Sauna, SW etc gals, the reason for the differing prices/modus operandi is simply a matter of preference and/or what the gal thinks is their best way to make money, according to their own temperament.
A 141 gal does it as they figure they can get multiple clients per day - and if they're good, they can even chalk up to as many as 12 or even 16 a day (think of those gals with guys lining up outside their door!). At say $400 @, she could make up to $6400/day or $160,000/month counting 5 red days. Wow!!, that's a lot!! A more realistic number would be say 6 a day - which still adds up to $2,400/day or $60,000/month. Less the rent and advertisement at approx $15,000, they can still clear $45,000/month.
The KTV gals - and the Wanchai Filipino/Thai/Vietnamese etc charges an average of say $1,200 per shot (and say, averages 1-1/2 client/day plus probably make a bit from Ladies drinks and/or the "drinks coupons" at the 'independent bars' of another $2 or 300, thus bringing their 'take home pay" to approximately $2,000@day/50,000@month.
But these gals only has to do the dirty a lot less frequently. Some gals i.e. the 141 gals - can do it multiple times using KY jelly, good HJ/BJ's etc, whilst others go Tong Tong Tong even once a day! And then there is the Alcohol tolerance abilities of the particular gal. Some can easily out-drink you and I - plus LOVE getting high, whilst others really suffer when drinking. And thus a non-drinker will go the 141 or Sauna way.
OK, sauna - a lot of these gals go the sauna way as they feel (not sure if correct or not!) that they have more of a choice as to whether they will only do Veggie/HJ/BJ or FS sauna - with no demands being made one way or the other - and according to what they want to do or not do that particlular day.
There are a myriad other reasons why a gal would go one way or the other - but let it suffice to say that most (of course not all, before anyone here jumps on me), prostitution - and the way one chooses to prostitue oneself - is strictly a matter of personal choice. There is hardly any more "Slave Gangers" and thus the choice of how to operate their own business is just that - their own choice. They go into contracts with their handlers with eyes at least NOT firmly shut, and they know what they are getting into BEFORE they sign or agree to their part of the bargain. And don't think that these als do not shop around for the best deal/term that suits them best. They DO!
From the above (again its only IMHO) there are as many different quality/type of gals in each category as there is Johns in the industry! It's got little to do with which particular kind of gal is superior to another. Each Gal is different - the same with each John.
So for us ISG'ers - go with what you want - the same as what these gals would do.
SE Asia Joe[/QUOTE]
very well done, SEAJ!
hope this opens the eyes to lots of people and keep on mongering with awareness as well as doing a sustainable mongering.
So much fashion to have everything sustainable nowadaythat also mongering has to be!
Probably those going bareback are "greens" as they do not use rubber and plastic, lol
Guys, arguing between Chinese and SE Asian girls is like arguing between gold and platinum. Let's be lucky we have such opportunities available to us whatever our tastes.
Question: every Mong Kok brothel I've been to for the past year doesn't have Flippers. Where in Mong Kok can I get a Flipper? Been a while since I had one. Thanks!
BTW, I tried to see Appuru again because I happened to be in the neighborhood. Again she was busy, and I figured, I'll come back another time. Did not try another door as no girls were milling about and most had the cages on their doors shut.
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe] There is hardly any more "Slave Gangers" and thus the choice of how to operate their own business is just that - their own choice. They go into contracts with their handlers with eyes at least NOT firmly shut, and they know what they are getting into BEFORE they sign or agree to their part of the bargain. And don't think that these als do not shop around for the best deal/term that suits them best. They DO!
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Yes, for the most part that is true but there still is a significant proportion where that is not the case. In fact in HK just recently there was a Filipina 'mamasan' jailed for 3yrs for bringing in girls to 'work' but telling them they are going to be working in restaurants etc etc.
I know of a Thai girl (about 5 yrs ago) that used to work in Nana Plaza and her friend told her to go work in Macau. She signed up (went in with eyes wide open) but then when she got there the terms of the contract changed (i,e what they promised to pay her per client). They took her passport and she had to work twice the number of men than she thought to make the same money her original contract told her.
I also knew a Chinese girl in a 141 in TST (massive titties and spoke English and Japanese) who had to work in HK since she owed debts to gangsters in her home town. When she made enough money (pretty quickly) and went back home the gangsters still wouldn't leave her and her family alone until she went back and worked in HK some more. I guess the triads don't want to lose a good producer.
So this stuff is still happenning right now.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Yes, for the most part that is true but there still is a significant proportion where that is not the case. In fact in HK just recently there was a Filipina 'mamasan' jailed for 3yrs for bringing in girls to 'work' but telling them they are going to be working in restaurants etc etc.
I know of a Thai girl (about 5 yrs ago) that used to work in Nana Plaza and her friend told her to go work in Macau. She signed up (went in with eyes wide open) but then when she got there the terms of the contract changed (i,e what they promised to pay her per client). They took her passport and she had to work twice the number of men than she thought to make the same money her original contract told her.
I also knew a Chinese girl in a 141 in TST (massive titties and spoke English and Japanese) who had to work in HK since she owed debts to gangsters in her home town. When she made enough money (pretty quickly) and went back home the gangsters still wouldn't leave her and her family alone until she went back and worked in HK some more. I guess the triads don't want to lose a good producer.
So this stuff is still happenning right now.[/QUOTE]
In Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, and Hong Kong I have met girls who told me they were tricked into working in the bars. They claim they were told they would be working in a restaurant and only found out what was expected afterwards. Of course it is possible they could be just saying that to make me feel sorry for them. And many of them do repeat visits, so we know they are not all being coerced.
Still I think some of the girls really did end up there under rather sinster circumstances. I think about the 18 year old I met this last trip. She did not tell me she had been tricked into coming, but it was obvious she was having a hard time with what she was doing working in Fenwicks.
I do often wonder about the Chinese girls that show up in all of these places. Compared to the filipinas, I thiink more of them are there under some sort of duress, although compared to the filipinas, they don't talk about it.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Yes, for the most part that is true but there still is a significant proportion where that is not the case.
So this stuff is still happenning right now.[/QUOTE]
Yes - like any business, there are also "bad" operators in prostitution. On the other hand, most well organized prostitution/triad/mafia gangs know that it is much easier to operate with willing participants. Their main motive in operating is profits and as such, they do go out of their way to avoid controversy.
In most areas of Asia, prostitution is pretty well "left alone" by the police and well meaning community groups as the challenges in tackling it is just too much - plus its pretty well perceived as being a victimless crime here. (probably unlike in the U.S. and/or other more developed parts of the world) What instead happens is just a bit of control to steer it to 'acceptable areas and acceptable practices.' These prostitution gangs knows to keep as low a profile as possible for not only will it keep the status quo with the LE's but also, it is good for business in that the Johns are re-assured that things are safe and that they are not willing participants to nefarious going ons with enslavement, coercion etc.
As far as stories goes - well.... there are as many 'stories' as there are gals wanting to have pity, extra monetary help/tips, making themselves feel better in that they're not "really doing this on their own volition," making the john feel they are special by sharing/confiding their worse fears (GFE??!!!) and/or making the john feel as if the gal is actually a decent gal forced into this and thus deserving of his sympathy/more money etc. etc.
Look-it, I ain't sayin' that there ain't no such thing as sex slavery etc - and probably there is hearing the 'stories' about gals in Eastern Europe, Africa, middle east etc etc - but one has to take it all with quite a big grain of salt and NOT become a sucker.
Monger safely and sensibly - and although I would doubt that YOU would come accross actual cases of "sex slavery" in this part of the world, I'm pretty sure that you would be able to know if it is really true or not. Just don't become a sucker to it and never, never get too drunk or too high to be rational when out mongering!
SE Asia Joe
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]As far as stories goes - well.... there are as many 'stories' as there are gals wanting to have pity, extra monetary help/tips, making themselves feel better in that they're not "really doing this on their own volition," making the john feel they are special by sharing/confiding their worse fears (GFE??!!!) and/or making the john feel as if the gal is actually a decent gal forced into this and thus deserving of his sympathy/more money etc. etc.
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I am a long time monger who has lost count of girls but it is easily a number over 1,000. I can tell a sob story from the moment they open their mouth.
The HK court case is true , lets just say I know insiders in that case.
The Thai girl asked nothing from me. She called me up the day after she arrived in Macau asking for advise on how to get her passport back but in the end she really had no power.
The Chinese girl only disclosed her info after I saw her a couple of times. She didn't ask anything of me and in fact I got a couple of nice emails from her in China when she eventually left her forced 2nd tour.
Go into any of the go-go's in Wan Chai (which I don't recommend) and I would say at least 25% of the girls were misled of what they would actually be doing. I know one girl who intentionally put on alot of weight so customers wouldn't take her out. When she first came she was a stunner. Of course the mamasan could not force her to go out with customers but they witheld many priveleges and deducted penalties from their salary when they didn't. So they really had no choice. In the end the only leverage she had to being sent back was her attractiveness.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]I am a long time monger who has lost count of girls but it is easily a number over 1,000. I can tell a sob story from the moment they open their mouth.
The HK court case is true , lets just say I know insiders in that case.
The Thai girl asked nothing from me. She called me up the day after she arrived in Macau asking for advise on how to get her passport back but in the end she really had no power.
The Chinese girl only disclosed her info after I saw her a couple of times. She didn't ask anything of me and in fact I got a couple of nice emails from her in China when she eventually left her forced 2nd tour.
Go into any of the go-go's in Wan Chai (which I don't recommend) and I would say at least 25% of the girls were misled of what they would actually be doing. I know one girl who intentionally put on alot of weight so customers wouldn't take her out. When she first came she was a stunner. Of course the mamasan could not force her to go out with customers but they witheld many priveleges and deducted penalties from their salary when they didn't. So they really had no choice. In the end the only leverage she had to being sent back was her attractiveness.[/QUOTE]
3 or 4 out of over 1,000. Probably about right
SE Asia Joe
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]3 or 4 out of over 1,000. Probably about right
SE Asia Joe[/QUOTE]
Mate, its alot more than 3 or 4, I don't want to bore you with the entire list.
My point is that it is alot more common than you think. I would put an estimate at around 3% (your estimate is around .4%)
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Mate, its alot more than 3 or 4, I don't want to bore you with the entire list.
My point is that it is alot more common than you think. I would put an estimate at around 3% (your estimate is around .4%)[/QUOTE]
Seems to me that this discussion includes go-go girls and the girls working the disco in the same group. I do not think this is the case.
I used to spend lots of time in Hong Kong and most of the night cruising I did for mongering was in Wan Chai at the go-go bars. This was because I had customers from the USA, UK or Europe with me 99% of the time.
I would stay in Hong Kong for months at a time and I would have different customers there every week. The reason I would take them to the go-go bars is for safety reasons. I never had a problem at the go-go bars and never had to worry how the girls would treat the guy back at the hotel room or if they would try to drug them or steal from them.
One thing I did discover was that I would have one customer fancy a certain girl and take her out sometimes multiple times during one trip to Hong Kong. Then the next week after the customer left another customer would come and sometimes pick the same girl. Of course I would never say anything about a previous customer picking the same girl as it is all about the fantasy isn't it?
Well the interesting thing is that the customers would get different stories from the same girl. Seems the girls in the go-go bars were very good at figuring out what story the guy wanted to hear to get them to take them out. If the guy felt like he was rescuing her for even just one night because he liked the feeling of being her knight in shinning amour, even for one night, that is the story he heard. The next customer would hear that she has been to Hong Kong on multiple trips and likes her works there. That is why she does it. Good money and she likes sex. So the girls really are experts at feeling the guy out as to what story they want to hear. They are taught well and know their business very well. I know one girl who was a virgin when she signed up, so before she left the Philippines had a next door neighbor take her cherry so she would have some experience before she arrived in Hong Kong for her job. Lucky neighbor huh. Then when she got there she asked her roommates and co-workers to teach her how to give blow jobs properly.
Now I know that there are still girls that are lied to as there are independent agents in the Philippines who get these girls to sign up. Most tell the girls the truth or they know from friends who have been there working in the go-go bars what to expect. Some of the agents lie for sure, but from what I have experienced it is a very small number of girls who go to work in the go-go bars who do not know the truth about what their jobs is. Agents who lie to the girl and then send girls over who are trouble to the go-go bars or do not want to work will not be agents for very long. The go-go bars do not like the trouble.
As for the disco's, there are many girls in the disco's that are being held against their will by having their passports taken. I'm not sure how involved the triads are in this and from what I have seen I think it is mostly a Filipino operated organization. It is done quite unprofessionally if you ask me. There are also many girls in the discos there on their own or visiting relatives or friends in Hong Kong that are working the go-go bars and not there against their will. I'm not sure of the ratio to forced girl in the disco, but I do know it was rapidly increasing when I was last there. I would say about 40% of the disco girl were working girls under contract. The number of those being forced was probably about 20% of that 40%. So I guess I am saying about 8% of the girls in the disco's are working there because someone is forcing them. Maybe more
Just my observation and I could be way off or it could have changed since I was last there.
FF
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]. I would put an estimate at around 3% (your estimate is around .4%)[/QUOTE]
OK 3% - or even MORE%age - whatever - but certainly a helluva lot less than the practically universal stories of woe and desperation one most times hear from these gals.
The point being - OK, there MAYBE real stories of horror and enslavement etc but as a monger, always, and I mean ALWAYS, take all their stories with a large grain of salt and NEVER - Never ever be a sucker. After all, you're only mongering and not trying to find the love of your life. And if you happen to find the love of your life whilst mongering - wellllll.... that's a double NO NO and double trouble!!
Keep Mongering safe and smart!
Treat 'em good and they'll treat you good -
but never be a sucker.
IMHO
(Do what I say, don't do what I do)SE Asia Joe
[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]One thing I did discover was that I would have one customer fancy a certain girl and take her out sometimes multiple times during one trip to Hong Kong. Then the next week after the customer left another customer would come and sometimes pick the same girl. Of course I would never say anything about a previous customer picking the same girl as it is all about the fantasy isn't it?
FF[/QUOTE]
I would say in any go go in Wan Chai with young flippers you will find one who is a 'problem' girl for the mamsan. i.e. she doesn't want to go out with customers and just sulks there. They are usually the ones that were brought over on false pretense and not willing to accept the new role. They get shipped back when the mamasan's realize they can't break them in even with all the penalties they impose.
The ones that do go out, of course learned the great skill of bullshitting. The WHO would declare the Phillipines having an epidemic of brain tumors if you believe the sucker stories of the pro's.
I will be in HK, Shenzhen, Dongguan, Zhu Hai and Guangzhou for the month of Feb and early March. Anyone interesting in hooking up for some mongering in those cities, please PM me. I am quite familiar with the cities except never explore Zhu Hai before.
Ron
Most of us know the disco scene in Wanchai on a Sunday afternoon/evening. Is there a similar scene on Kowloon side - bars/discos full of maids having a good time? Couldn't find any hint here in the forum.
Guys,
I'm a new member and have been reading through these forums to get a better understanding of what the scene is like here. I've been through the Wan Chai scene and done the Thai, Phillipino and Indonesian take away, but I wanted to savour the delights of the local girls.
Where can you find some eager local beaver (apart from the 141 girls) I'm more into a GF experience so I'm looking for a decent bar where you can chat them up, work out if you can bear to wake up next to them and then take them away?
Thor93,
I wish you guys would state Hong kong dollars or US.
[QUOTE=McRockDundee]Guys,
...
Where can you find some eager local beaver (apart from the 141 girls) I'm more into a GF experience so I'm looking for a decent bar where you can chat them up, work out if you can bear to wake up next to them and then take them away?[/QUOTE]
If you can find this McRockDundee, be sure to let us know where! :)
However, you can always try Lang Kwai Fong--so long as you look like you spend 9 hours a day in the gym, dress like a homosexual and/or investment banker, and flash a ton of cash, and can deal with some pretty bitchy attitudes, you may get lucky. Otherwise 37D is your best bet.
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket
[QUOTE=McRockDundee]Guys,
I'm a new member and have been reading through these forums to get a better understanding of what the scene is like here. I've been through the Wan Chai scene and done the Thai, Phillipino and Indonesian take away, but I wanted to savour the delights of the local girls.
Where can you find some eager local beaver (apart from the 141 girls) I'm more into a GF experience so I'm looking for a decent bar where you can chat them up, work out if you can bear to wake up next to them and then take them away?[/QUOTE]
Mr. RockDundee, Good luck trying to pick up a local Cantonese lady. They are not easy and not really interested in one night stands. BTW most of the 141 girls are not local girls. Most speak Nandarin and come from all over China.
[QUOTE=McRockDundee]Guys,
I'm a new member and have been reading through these forums to get a better understanding of what the scene is like here. I've been through the Wan Chai scene and done the Thai, Phillipino and Indonesian take away, but I wanted to savour the delights of the local girls.
Where can you find some eager local beaver (apart from the 141 girls) I'm more into a GF experience so I'm looking for a decent bar where you can chat them up, work out if you can bear to wake up next to them and then take them away?[/QUOTE]
It is possible but I wouldn't waste time if you are a tourist. I see the same group of girls hanging around LKF who are known for one nighters. I didn't find them attractive 10 yrs ago so you can imagine what they look like now.
Take it from me (who has had a few 'one nighters' with locals). The sex will be very bad. I have long lost the need to 'boost' my ego. I'd rather go with someone who knows what they are doing (i/e pro's) for a short time.
Long time girl friends are ok but they often have to be trained so it is a bit of a burden.
Also remember that HK is concentrated with male models and guys that make millions so that is your competition on a super hot local freebie. They know how to play the game very well.
thought it was time i gave a bit back to the forum after a few years of mainly being a lurker. i live in london but my job mainly involves work in asia. i go on month long trips to se asia and china, heaven for someone like me who greatly favors asian women.
anyway, the following is a report on my activities since mid december 2007. it covers hong kong, malaysia and cambodia. future reports, if i get round to writing them, are likely to include vietnam, singapore, and indonesia as well.
i will post the whole report in each relevant section so please skip over any bits not relevant to the particular thread. for malaysia (kl) and cambodia (phnom penh) scroll down.
hong kong
i was in hk about a week before christmas. stayed at the novotel century on lockhart road, wanchai. very well placed relative to the wanchai bars, totally girl friendly and reasonably priced (not usually a major concern for me as my work is paying).
my favorite venue here is fenwicks. as someone noted recently mongering here is like shooting fish in a barrel. things don’t really get started until 10pm so no point turning up earlier than that – go to one of the other bars or get a good mexican meal in coyotes. between 10pm and midnight a huge number of girls come in. a mix if filipina, thai, mainland chinese and a handful of russians and africans. bar closes at 3am i think.
on this trip i hooked up with a bunch of filipina girls who hung around the table near the dance floor. great bunch of girls, lots of fun and were not too pushy for drinks. i quickly focused a young, slim and, imho, very pretty one. turned out to be 19 years old and very new to the game. loved dancing and had a great time. asked her if she wanted to come back with me lt and she jumped at the chance. her friends were cheering her as they said it was her first hook up (she had arrived in hk two days before). back in the room it became clear that while she was no virgin i would say she wasn’t experienced either. however had a lot of fun and she was also good to talk to too. in the morning i gave her hk$1000 and she looked delighted and off she went. this seems a bargain to me and evidence of her newness to the scene. i hooked up with her again every night for the rest of the trip, lt every night and just $1000.
returned to hk end of january. same hotel and wandered down to fenwicks at about 10pm on a thursday night. was quite quiet. kind of hoped the girl from before would be there but no luck. however spotted another filipina i thought was very attractive. good figure, pretty face. called her over, had a few drinks and a dance. she had arrived in hk two days before. however she didn’t play the innocent but said back home she worked in bars called mascara and ivory. having made it clear that i would be taking her back to the hotel with me we then settled down to some partying. popped over to neptune 2 which she hadn’t seen (very busy, good music and a lot of good quality girls), then to laguana (sp? ) (rubbish) and the back to fenwicks to see her friend. by now it was 1. 30am and much busier. i have to say i thought the quality of available talent was exceptional. what i would call 8’s and 9’s were available for anyone interested. my girl’s friend was complaining there were too many girls and too much window shopping by the men – not enough genuine customers.
anyway took my girl back to the hotel and have to say, what ensued was the best p4p experience i have ever had. she was fantastic. great body, enthusiastic and very accommodating. i wanted to cim but got carried away and shot early while getting into position. fired all over her face. we laughed about it and she actually complained that she preferred me to cim as she didn’t like having the ’sticky stuff’ on her face! never had someone complain about me not cim’ing before! another session when we woke up and then took her for breakfast. overall excellent and gfe. paid her hk$2, 000 because i was just so pleased.
unfortunately i can’t remember the names of either of the girls! i have an email address for the second but her name is not part of it.
malayisa
i was in kl for a few days in mid january. favourite hotel here is the concorde and, as i’m sure you can guess, favourite bar is the beach club.
arrived late on sunday night. given a great suite in hotel with separate sitting room, bedroom, dressing room and two bathrooms! went straight to beach club (via garage to buy condoms, girls don’t carry in malaysia so be prepared). quickly spotted the nights target, a hot bodied, reasonably pretty filipina called grace. was instantly attracted to her when she said to me "my names grace, and you should have grace before breakfast". couldn’t agree more! she was a great dancer, as was her cute friend kyla. their easy to find. generally hang out near the platform where some of the girls "table top" dance. took her back st as i was tired and wanted some sleep. she put on a great performance though once clothes off did reveal some stretch marks but sexy none the less. rm300 for the st.
next night by the time i got to the beach club grace was busy and i hadn’t made any plans to meet up with her so fair enough – she has a living to make. hooked up with another cute filipina (slightly fuller body but sweet face) called vanessa. took her lt (rm400). she got all shy back in the room. then all of a sudden she turned into a wild women, practically raped me, had a massive orgasm (or faked it well) and then went all shy again! a bit bizarre. continued shy act until left in morning. wouldn’t take her again but the 20 mins of ‘action’ were pretty fantastic.
final night was grace again. met up early. left beach and checked out rum jungle for a bit. good bar but not many, if any, fl’s just some hot local girls having a good time. back to room, fell asleep but had a good session in the morning. (rm400)
as an aside i would expect grace and her friend kyla to make a great double act. will be my objective if they are still there next time i am in kl. overall quality of girls at beach 6.7 but with some gems if you look. also you have probably guessed by now that i am a filipina fan.
cambodia
i was in phnom penh in mid jan. stayed at himawari. good price (us$90) and very gf. the security guards stop girls when they leave and call you in your room to make sure you are ok to let them leave. problem with himawari is that you need to book early as it gets very full.
unlike previous trips i didn’t make it to cyrecee this time. however based on my previous experience i would recommend it if you get the chance.
i spent my time this visit in bar 104. can be hit and miss here but i just got lucky on my first night and tied up with a group of girls who were very chatty and good fun. they had a friend who was very pretty, good body but spoke no english, mom i think her name was. while the chatty girls didn’t seem available (though i didn’t try very hard) mom was very willing. i had two nights of great gfe with her, despite the lack of english. sure i will be flamed but gave her us$40 per night in recognition of great performance.
one night i took the girls down to bar 136 which is 104’s sister joint. they were very excited by having a trip out and i think we all had a good time.
that’s it for now
ct
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Well thanks for your words of wisdom, I'm not a male model, not earning $$millions nor do i work out in the gym.
I was wanting to know if there's really a chance to "get to know" the local girls and from your posts it seems like there's not much point.
The locals i've met are not particlarly interested in wetsern guys and if they are it's only because we operate like an ATM giving out money for drinks etc.
Ok well i'm off to wanchai for the evening night delights.
I guess an experienced pro is better than an inexperienced insecure local girl.
Now on another point - i'm heading to Japan for work in March, hw's the scene compare to HK?
Thanks
I've traveled to HK/Macau several times over the last year. This time I'm going with the wife. We want to have some fun.
I don't see it talked about here much cause we mongers mostly play solo, but I'm in a new, unique position. My wife and I have been experimenting with swinging over the last few years and she's getting petty comfortable. Now, she wants to watch me with another woman. In short, we're looking for the typical threesome (MFF), and while she is bi, the girl doesn't need to be. My wife is willing to just watch.
So does anyone have any ideas? Fenwicks? KTVs? I'd rather have some "sure thing" options than rely on just chance by going to regular bars/clubs.
We're visiting in few weeks and I hope to have lots to write about.
[QUOTE=McRockDundee]
Now on another point - i'm heading to Japan for work in March, hw's the scene compare to HK?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Japan, is a whole different story. You don't need to meet pro's there. The local girls are up for anything. I always come back with a good story when I go to Tokyo.
However, its best if you know some guys and get invited to private parties and such.
[QUOTE=Jax Dude]I've traveled to HK/Macau several times over the last year. This time I'm going with the wife. We want to have some fun.
I don't see it talked about here much cause we mongers mostly play solo, but I'm in a new, unique position. My wife and I have been experimenting with swinging over the last few years and she's getting petty comfortable. Now, she wants to watch me with another woman. In short, we're looking for the typical threesome (MFF), and while she is bi, the girl doesn't need to be. My wife is willing to just watch.
So does anyone have any ideas? Fenwicks? KTVs? I'd rather have some "sure thing" options than rely on just chance by going to regular bars/clubs.
We're visiting in few weeks and I hope to have lots to write about.[/QUOTE]
Jax Dude:
I travel sometimes with a part time GF I have that lives in Beijing. Every once in awhile, we also get a girl for play as she is a bit bi at times. My advice in HK is to stay away from Fenwicks and Laguna as these bars are mostly Filippina. The Fillipina's are more reluctant to go with another woman. If they do, they are shy in the room and may not want to be watched. Rarely have I found in in HK to go both ways.
I would try the Thais' at Neptune. Almost all of them are willing to be as adventurous as you wish - YMMV.
[QUOTE=Jax Dude]I've traveled to HK/Macau several times over the last year. This time I'm going with the wife. We want to have some fun.
I don't see it talked about here much cause we mongers mostly play solo, but I'm in a new, unique position. My wife and I have been experimenting with swinging over the last few years and she's getting petty comfortable. Now, she wants to watch me with another woman. In short, we're looking for the typical threesome (MFF), and while she is bi, the girl doesn't need to be. My wife is willing to just watch.
So does anyone have any ideas? Fenwicks? KTVs? I'd rather have some "sure thing" options than rely on just chance by going to regular bars/clubs.
We're visiting in few weeks and I hope to have lots to write about.[/QUOTE]
You might want to try something like Adultfriendfinder. Lots of girls post there that they are looking for women or else looking for couples. Just be careful though as there are many fakes there. You would have to take a shotgun approach, but it might be worth a try.
I tried that route for a solo hook-up on my last trip to HK. Basically the good looking women on there were really hookers and asking a lot more than the going rate. The one non-professional I met, was nice but middle aged and a bit on the chubby side so I passed even though it would have been a freebie.
There were some nice looking pictures though of girls looking for couples or another woman.
I suppose you could take the wife into a place like Fenwicks and find something, but that would probably be real hit or miss.
I've been to HK before and enjoyed the down n dirty vibe of Mong Kok. I was staying at the Langham Place and just went out wandering. In the adjoining street there are plenty of neon signs in Chinese, but some of them have lists in English, detailing nationalities and sums of money in the 300 to 500 range.
Pretty easy to work out what that meant!
I went up the stairs of one place two blocks across from the Langham, moving away from Nathan Road. It was almost on a corner. There were two or three guys in a room looking at grainy grey CCTV footage of the stairway on a TV, so they'd seen me coming, but still seemed a little surprised. I got the impression they don't see too many Westerners.
One spoke decent English, and once I explained I was looking for a lady, all was well. They got me a glass of water, and called a couple of girls on the phone. One was a bit tubby, so I went for the other girl, who claimed to be HK, but was probably not. She took me into a tiny back room, we stripped, showered and she perfunctorily soaped me.
Then I got the BBBJ of my life! Words cannot describe the quality of the deep throat I got! All the while, crappy porno on a telly on the wall, and me looking down at her, then at her reflection in the wall mirror.
She put a condom on and we fucked till I came. She wasn't particularly vocal, but for 350 HK, I felt it was a splendid bargain, especially for the BBBJ.
A couple of nights later, I went out and tried another place, further down towards Jordan and the night market. The mama was a really odd looking chick, genuine red hair and freckles, but Chinese featured. I can't say she was beautiful, it wasn't a pretty mix. But I was intrigued nonetheless. She wasn't that old either. But she wasn't available.
She called me a Filipino, bargain bucket price of 280. It was a pretty workaday fuck I got for that, and from a fairly plain girl pushing 30, which taught me that some things are just too cheap.
Anyhow, I should get to the point. I'm transiting through HK next week and will have from early morning Sunday until evening in town before I have to return to the airport for my next flight.
I'm guessing that the Mongkok scene isn't too happening on a Sunday morning, so I want to ask you guys what you would do in my shoes?
I'll have my baggage with me, so should I just book a room and call a 141 (never tried that route before)? If so, what sort of accommodation (GF) would you recommend?
Or is there some sort of sauna or somewhere I could basically spend most of the day in, doing some fucking, some chilling, some eating and maybe even some sleeping? That would be my top choice, if it exists.
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@ Jax Dude
I can agree with SOFTY. I have the same experiences with Filipinas.
We picked also once a nice girl at Neptune, who joined us the full night.
I found also some SW around the Langham Place, who were willing to join me and my girlfriend. We tried one, but it wasn't an experience I want to repeat. That is now 8 months ago.
Therefore: Give Neptune a try.
Whomer
[QUOTE=The Skinner]--cut--
Anyhow, I should get to the point. I'm transiting through HK next week and will have from early morning Sunday until evening in town before I have to return to the airport for my next flight.
I'm guessing that the Mongkok scene isn't too happening on a Sunday morning, so I want to ask you guys what you would do in my shoes?
I'll have my baggage with me, so should I just book a room and call a 141 (never tried that route before)? If so, what sort of accommodation (GF) would you recommend?
Or is there some sort of sauna or somewhere I could basically spend most of the day in, doing some fucking, some chilling, some eating and maybe even some sleeping? That would be my top choice, if it exists.[/QUOTE]
The Mongkok scene is open on Sunday, but not in the early morning.
Don't bring your bags. You can leave it at any number of places such as the airport or train station. It is just crazy trying to lug that around.
The 141 girls don't come to your hotel, you go to their room. The hotel reservation girls are at THEIR hotel, not yours. There are some escort services (I have not tried).
That kind of sauna is common in Macau, but not so much in HK. Maybe others can recommend some.
Thanks for the info, Manfest. I reckon I'll leave my bags at the airport then. What sort of time would you think the places in Mong Kok kick off at on a Sunday? Presumably after lunchtime?
I did contemplate going to Macau, but it just seems like a journey and passport control too far after a transcontinental flight. Going to stay in HK.
Has anyone tried the street walkers near Langham (Shanghai street)?
I've seen a few very hot ones but was too scared to try them when i was in HK. The pimp approached me and quoted me 350 total for everything.
I was concerned where the pimp would take me.
I know postings to outside sites are discouraged here but I think the circumstances warrant me posting this one.
It seems an. Err unprofessional. 'pharmacist' has been dudding guys seeking Vit C or V and dispensing a diabetes treatment which has caused one death and some seriously sick individuals.
I recall a recent posting on here from someone talking of being duped in Wan Chai. Be warned.
[url]http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?pp_cat=11&art_id=61245&sid=17462205&con_type=1[/url]
In case this pasted url doesn't work, here's the text of the story from the Hong Kong Standard which the moderator can remove if he believes it is inappropriate. Please excuse me if I am breaching protocol here.
[quote]Alarm over killer impotence drugs
One man has died and nine others have been admitted to hospital - one in critical condition - after they were believed to have taken impotence drugs which were fake or contained unregistered medicines.
Nickkita Lau and Patsy Moy
Wednesday, February 06, 2008
One man has died and nine others have been admitted to hospital - one in critical condition - after they were believed to have taken impotence drugs which were fake or contained unregistered medicines.
The Department of Health said 10 men have been admitted since December 11. A 53-year-old man died on January 31 in Queen Elizabeth Hospital.
The Coroner's Court will hold a hearing to confirm the cause of death, according to the department.
Senior medical officer Tse Man-li of the Hospital Authority described the incidents as "a string of very serious poisoning cases" where most of the patients showed severe symptoms such as unconsciousness and dizziness.
Last night one patient, 51, remained in critical condition under intensive care at Prince of Wales Hospital.
Another man also remained in hospital while the rest have been discharged. Five patients admitted they had used impotence drugs.
Two said they had taken products sold in capsule form from Lung Sang Group Ginseng Antler and Sea Product Co in Sheung Shui.
A test carried out on unused capsules provided by one of the patients showed they contained 10 times the normal dosage of the Western medicine glibenclamide.
The drug is used for treating diabetes, according to Gloria Tam Lai-fun, deputy director of health, who said "the high dosage was particularly dangerous to patients with diabetes."
Police have seized around 130 capsules from Lung Sang Group's Sheung Shui outlet. Test results showed the level of Glibenclamide was 15 times higher than normal dosage. The shop owner was arrested but has been released on bail.
According to Tam, one patient admitted he had bought fake Viagra in Yuen Long. Two other men said they had bought an impotence drug called Nangen in Shenzhen and another drug, Nangen Zengzhangsui, elsewhere.
Tam said police have launched an investigation but had still not identified the source of the products.
Hong Kong authorities have been in contact with their counterparts in Macau and the mainland.
"Most patients are reluctant to disclose what drugs they have taken which makes our investigation difficult," said Tony Mak Wing-lai, consultant chemical pathologist at Princess Margaret Hospital.
The incident has caused alarm in the Department of Health.
On Monday it warned the public to stop using a "health product"sold at Lung Sang Group Ginseng Antler and Sea Product in Sheung Shui after the item was tested positive for high levels of glibenclamide.
The drug, if taken in too high a dose, can cause a significant fall in blood sugar, possibly leading to death, the department said.
It urged people not to consume similar products and to seek advice from doctors should they feel unwell after taking them.
The department suggests people experiencing sexual dysfunction should consult medical professionals for appropriate medication.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Jax Dude]I've traveled to HK/Macau several times over the last year. This time I'm going with the wife. We want to have some fun.
I don't see it talked about here much cause we mongers mostly play solo, but I'm in a new, unique position. My wife and I have been experimenting with swinging over the last few years and she's getting petty comfortable. Now, she wants to watch me with another woman. In short, we're looking for the typical threesome (MFF), and while she is bi, the girl doesn't need to be. My wife is willing to just watch.
So does anyone have any ideas? Fenwicks? KTVs? I'd rather have some "sure thing" options than rely on just chance by going to regular bars/clubs.
We're visiting in few weeks and I hope to have lots to write about.[/QUOTE]In my experience avoid the Filipinas. They are great one on one and highly likely to give great GFE if you treat them right. But on occasion when I have taken two I've been surprised at how uncomfortable they are. To the point on one memorable night I was all fired up ready for a reat three-some in the hotel with two cute honeys. Only to find as one climbed on board the other hid in the bathroom on some fragile excuse. And they seemed to have a code whereupon they swapped over. Not quite my idea of a satisfying 3-some, but still fun nevertheless. Whereas Thais. They'll get very enthusiastic with girls or guys. Perhaps because they lack the Filipino's Catholic mindset?
Good luck!
[QUOTE=Timewaster]Has anyone tried the street walkers near Langham (Shanghai street)?
I've seen a few very hot ones but was too scared to try them when i was in HK. The pimp approached me and quoted me 350 total for everything.
I was concerned where the pimp would take me.[/QUOTE]Didn't spot the streetwalkers, myself, and I was out looking for them! I understand the routine is something like you agree price, then you're taken into one of the sort of places I described in my post below.
I suppose these sort of things depend on one's tastes, sense of adventure / foolhardiness, and cash levels.
I like it down and dirty, but others won't be comfortable with that. Thankfully, most places in Asia seem to cater for many levels of adventure/convenience/security. If you're nervy about dealing with pimps on the street in Mong Kok, and you probably ought to be as they're likely all triads I'd guess, then move up the food chain a little and go the 141 route. You'll still get a happy ending!
Don't know if anybody here is curious about this big thing about Stars/Singers caught with their pants down - but here is the link - which I hope Jackson will allow. If not, PM me
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SE Asia Joe
Ps. How much would YOU pay?
I finally found Appuru free, though I waited outside her door for about half an hour.
She was sweet and very cooperative. But frankly the talking was better than the sex. She wouldn't allow DATY although she did DFK.
She said she didn't like sex in general, had never come, and had lost boyfriends mostly by not having much interest in them. Rang true--she wasn't using it to get more money or manipulate me, we were just chatting.
She's pretty and cooperative so she may be worth a go, but it was a very standard experience.
[QUOTE=The Skinner]What sort of time would you think the places in Mong Kok kick off at on a Sunday? Presumably after lunchtime?[/QUOTE]
I believe 8 MK is 24/7. KP opens around 10AM? 141's are variable.
[QUOTE=Manfest]I believe 8 MK is 24/7. KP opens around 10AM? 141's are variable.[/QUOTE]Okay, you got me there. Those abbreviations aren't familiar to me. 8 MK = Eight Mong Kok? KP = ??? Are they buried in the HK forum in here, and well known to HK regulars, and I should just RTFF?
Any help you can provide would be gratefully appreciated.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]I finally found Appuru free, though I waited outside her door for about half an hour.
She was sweet and very cooperative. But frankly the talking was better than the sex. She wouldn't allow DATY although she did DFK.
She said she didn't like sex in general, had never come, and had lost boyfriends mostly by not having much interest in them. Rang true--she wasn't using it to get more money or manipulate me, we were just chatting.
She's pretty and cooperative so she may be worth a go, but it was a very standard experience.[/QUOTE]She only kissed me on the neck. Didn't realized it was on the menu.
How did you get her to DFK? Did you ask her or did you just go ahead and tried?
Somewhere in the forum I read way back, someone writing about places Indonesian girls gather on their time off on Sunday afternoons looking to make some extra money. I searched the pages but did not find the info.
Can someone help??
Timewaster: I just did it.
Did your experience resemble mine?
To me, the GFEs you normally get at 37D are worth the $50-100 premium you pay over the typical 141 girl.
I had a good experience recently at Ocean King w/girl #9, but it was completely luck. I was curious if anyone has experience/recommendations of any specific #'s because it's been my experience in these place that lightning doesn't always strike twice. Like almost everyone else I am most interested in young and/or busty girls.
[QUOTE=Firebird]Somewhere in the forum I read way back, someone writing about places Indonesian girls gather on their time off on Sunday afternoons looking to make some extra money. I searched the pages but did not find the info.
Can someone help??[/QUOTE]
It was probably a reference to Philipinas rather than Indonesians although some of them may be Indonesians. On Sunday afternoons Laguna is packed with them. Check the maps thread and you will find your way. Then when Sunday evening hits, Laguna empties out and Fenwicks and Neptunes fills up.
Hi,
I will be in HK in the end of this month.
The hotels are they GF, or is like in the mainland where some girls are scared of that the police will come and knock on the door.
Couldn’t find anything about that here, maybe I missed that while reading about other useful info.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Timewaster: I just did it.
Did your experience resemble mine?
To me, the GFEs you normally get at 37D are worth the $50-100 premium you pay over the typical 141 girl.[/QUOTE]Johnny Rocket,
I did not have a good experience at 37D. The girl at 37D was older (early 30s),not as skinny,not very friendly/talkative,and did not speak english. The only good thing at 37D was bbj and multiple pops were allowed. The rooms upstairs at 37D were also very dark. The 141 rooms looked cleaner and were brightly lit.
I normally don't post pictures of girls since I don't think I should since they never gave me permission to post on internet. However this girl is already on the internet and just want to show what is available in HK.
Type "City of Angels Magazine" in Google and click on the first hit. The look at 'Magazine' section and download the month of January (warning its a bit slow). Then go to page 17.
Not only a kick ass body but a incredible sexual appetite. Top marks in my book. Don't know how long she is in town but you can find her in the usual Wan Chai joints.
And please don't be an idiot if you see her and tell her you heard about her on an internet sex forum.
Back in the 141/161 days, I have had some really hot Russians in hotels for around $1000-$1500.
Do they still exist? I know there are russians in fenwicks but I also heard most are TVs?? Same with Hari's Bar at the holiday inn. Also if u don't have a room at the holiday inn I assume most girls won't go for it?
I now stick mostly to the 141 where the locals go (as posted quite a few times here already), but would love to do some hot russians before i leave
Thanks for the thoughts!
Recent one night through trip at Holiday Inn - Russian woman of middle age with tits hanging out approached me. I side stepped. Ugly and aggressive. May or may not be representative of what Hari's has to offer.
[QUOTE=Borat69]Back in the 141/161 days, I have had some really hot Russians in hotels for around $1000-$1500.
Do they still exist? I know there are russians in fenwicks but I also heard most are TVs?? Same with Hari's Bar at the holiday inn. Also if u don't have a room at the holiday inn I assume most girls won't go for it?
I now stick mostly to the 141 where the locals go (as posted quite a few times here already), but would love to do some hot russians before i leave
Thanks for the thoughts![/QUOTE]
I've RTFF and see warnings about pharmacies selling not-so-good generic Cialis or Viagara in HK. Can anybody validate a good supplier in Kowloon or near Causeway Bay?
I picked up a 4pack of V in Thailand and like the effect. Makes this 40yr old feel like 20 again. I've never tried the C. If anyone can relate their C vs V comparisons, I"d like to hear the difference. I know C is the "weekender", but does that make it better for multiple mongering pops over a couple days? For me, I'm still a one-shooter on V, but haven't tried an overnight to see if the 2nd rail is as good as the first. What's your advice?
Smaht Kris
[QUOTE=Wickedsmahtkris]I've RTFF and see warnings about pharmacies selling not-so-good generic Cialis or Viagara in HK. Can anybody validate a good supplier in Kowloon or near Causeway Bay?
I picked up a 4pack of V in Thailand and like the effect. Makes this 40yr old feel like 20 again. I've never tried the C. If anyone can relate their C vs V comparisons, I"d like to hear the difference. I know C is the "weekender", but does that make it better for multiple mongering pops over a couple days? For me, I'm still a one-shooter on V, but haven't tried an overnight to see if the 2nd rail is as good as the first. What's your advice?
Smaht Kris[/QUOTE]
There is a pharmacy right at the entrance of K
Pressure in Jordan that will sell you the real "C" and "V" - never had problems before. As far as effect both do the same - the "C" little more gentle as the "V" does give a headache and your face gets "flushed". You should be able to get multiple shots with either
Went to both of these places and only had one offer below $1500 for LT, and that was late about 2am-3am (even one at $2500? ! ). One offer was $1500LT 1 girl, $2000 for 2 girls, which was ok but the second was a bagger.
I don't know if I just pick the cream of the crop or look like I should be ripped off? I see way too many $800-$1000 LT posts are these the leftovers or what? Can anyone give me a better handle on these places? Perhaps because I wasn't with a group they push the rate?
Any reazons?
[QUOTE=Firebird]There is a pharmacy right at the entrance of K
Pressure in Jordan that will sell you the real "C" and "V" - never had problems before. As far as effect both do the same - the "C" little more gentle as the "V" does give a headache and your face gets "flushed". You should be able to get multiple shots with either[/QUOTE]I bought a pack of 4 of Cialis in TST (HK$360) and both the box and the foil pack had all the sign of a real package. The 3D image on the box and the logo on the foil pack that changes color as you move it, but it just did not work as the pills I had from the US. It could be that I getting old and my health is changing. I bought another box identical to the first from the pharmacy next to K (HK$340) and it was the same no-effect again. So I bit into one and was expecting a bitter taste and it actually had a sweet taste! I tried to call the number that is on the color brochure but with weekend and holidays I did not get anyone on the phone.
Then a week later I was in Malaysia and went to a ma and pa pharmacy and bought another box (MR200/HK$450)!! The packaging is very similar to the one from HK except that it is all in English and no Chinese. I took one and again no effect. I can not decide what is wrong! At US$15 a pill, it is a lucrative market to make fake sugar pills and distribute it in APAC, but at the same time it could be me me and my health and body that just is not responding to the medication. I will have a talk with my doctor on my next check-up in the US. My previous experience with Cialis was with the samples that my doctor used to give me on my check-ups which I have to do every 3 months because I am diabetic type 2. These samples were working great. However, the clinic stopped accepting samples from salespeople and as a result I had no more free pills and that is why I bought my first package in HK.
Any idea ?
Thanks,
APAC Man
Went to 37D. Was presented with 3 fatties. I asked for other girls. They said only these 3, not many working now due to Chinese New Year. What the fuck, I chose one. On the way up and on the way down I saw 3 other normal looking girls with other guys. WTF? All but the fatties were taken I suppose. I should have waited or left, but I was horny and knew I wouldn't have time to return this week.
So we went through the usual routine. She really had a good attitude and got into the sex, but it didn't make up for the fact that she just was not that attractive. For the first time ever I left the silly porn playing on the TV in the room so I'd have something interesting to look at. She did come several times from my DATY and told me it was great, so I figured I'd done a bit of sexual charity.
If you're considering going, wait a few days for the girls to come back.
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket
[QUOTE=Freepeaks]Went to both of these places and only had one offer below $1500 for LT, and that was late about 2am-3am (even one at $2500? ! ). One offer was $1500LT 1 girl, $2000 for 2 girls, which was ok but the second was a bagger.
I don't know if I just pick the cream of the crop or look like I should be ripped off? I see way too many $800-$1000 LT posts are these the leftovers or what? Can anyone give me a better handle on these places? Perhaps because I wasn't with a group they push the rate?
Any reazons?[/QUOTE]I am in HK 6 times per year and Fenwicks is my first address for the nights. Never I paid more then 1500 for a LT and this only a few times because I didnt want to spent so much time there at these nights and I left quite early with the girls.
I agree that it is difficult to get the sometimes arrogant Colombians for 1500 for a LT, but after some drinks and some small talk in spanish they also will come with you. Maybe you just had some bad luck at these nights.
By the way, how was/is the situation now during CNY? Less girls or same. I will be back in HK end of the month.
[QUOTE=Freepeaks]Went to both of these places and only had one offer .
I don't know if I just pick the cream of the crop or look like I should be ripped off? I see way too many $800-$1000 LT posts are these the leftovers or what? Can anyone give me a better handle on these places? Perhaps because I wasn't with a group they push the rate?
Any reazons?[/QUOTE]
I hope you were just unlucky but I have never had to pay more than $1000 for LT. I generally wait until I am approached - (usually all of about 10 secs after going in). I think going in alone is better than going in with a crowd but I have never noticed it made much difference. I am returning in a weeks time and don't expect to pay any more than usual. Try Galaxy - not as busy and usually a few hanging around. I have never failed there either. Sometimes I find Neptunes can be difficult. Amazonia, which I went into for the first time last month just to hear the band before moving on to Fenwicks was a bit of an eye opener - plenty action. I am no spring chicken but I have had plenty hotties approach. The last time I was in Fenwicks a stunner came with me for $1000 LT and told me later she normally never went for less than $2000 but that "she liked me and I was nice to her!"
Keep trying
I have been reading pages of the forum and have come across the terms number of times but never an explanation. What is a "flipper"??
[QUOTE=Firebird]I have been reading pages of the forum and have come across the terms number of times but never an explanation. What is a "flipper"??[/QUOTE]
It's a woman from the Phillipines.
[QUOTE=Freepeaks]Went to both of these places and only had one offer below $1500 for LT, and that was late about 2am-3am (even one at $2500? ! ). One offer was $1500LT 1 girl, $2000 for 2 girls, which was ok but the second was a bagger.
I don't know if I just pick the cream of the crop or look like I should be ripped off? I see way too many $800-$1000 LT posts are these the leftovers or what? Can anyone give me a better handle on these places? Perhaps because I wasn't with a group they push the rate?
Any reazons?[/QUOTE]
The secret is to spend some time romancing them.
Also, keep in mind that the new Filippinas' generally will not go for less than $1,500 because that is what they are told by their "managers". Once a girl has returned to HK a few times, she is a bona fide earner and will negotiate if:
1. She likes you
2. You are a regular.
The Thais, Indos, and periodic Mongolians are all more flexible. The flippers are too for that matter; just not the new ones. If you are after fresh meat, though, the extra toll can be worth it. I have a regular chick that I meet sometimes in HK, sometimes in Manila that I originally met when she was out on her 3rd evening in HK. FWIW, some of these girls really have no clue what is expected of them when they arrive in HK and often make two passes through before "getting it"
[QUOTE=Firebird]There is a pharmacy right at the entrance of K
Pressure in Jordan that will sell you the real "C" and "V" - never had problems before. As far as effect both do the same - the "C" little more gentle as the "V" does give a headache and your face gets "flushed". You should be able to get multiple shots with either[/QUOTE]Thanks, Firebird. I'll give the KPressure pharm a shot. At $50USD per 4pack, it seems the better deal is to go with the 30pack. However, I'd hate to get a 30pack of blue sugar pills for $200USD! Just like this forum is "consumer advocacy" on service providers for mongering, it'd be great for everyone to get learn the real deal on vitamin providers. If even one pharmacy became reputable and consistent, they'd surely benefit from steady business from this mongering crowd. I hope to report back with good news in on the KPressure pharm in a couple weeks. Looks like I'll hang loose 'til then (ouch).
Smahty
[QUOTE=FlushPump]If you want to meet her, just click here
[url]http://meetme.hotornot.com/r/?emid=ORAYR8G[/url]
To be honest, if she takes of that bra those tits will hang over her stomach.[/QUOTE]I'd be willing to take the risk of that happening!
[QUOTE=FlushPump]If you want to meet her, just click here
[url]http://meetme.hotornot.com/r/?emid=ORAYR8G[/url]
To be honest, if she takes of that bra those tits will hang over her stomach.[/QUOTE]
I have met her and had a great session. Unlike yourself who just trolls around the internet posting pictures of women you'd like to fuck.
Those tits do not hang over her stomach and she is a sex hound.
I only do one trip a year to HK but normally pay 1000-1500 for LT from Fenwick's. I have heard that the Russian gals charge more but can't confirm as I've yet to experience one.
[QUOTE=Freepeaks]Went to both of these places and only had one offer below $1500 for LT, and that was late about 2am-3am (even one at $2500? ! ). One offer was $1500LT 1 girl, $2000 for 2 girls, which was ok but the second was a bagger.
I don't know if I just pick the cream of the crop or look like I should be ripped off? I see way too many $800-$1000 LT posts are these the leftovers or what? Can anyone give me a better handle on these places? Perhaps because I wasn't with a group they push the rate?
Any reazons?[/QUOTE]
Just a quick update - in the end I took the ferry to Macau on a package I got in Shun Tak mall from a travel agent who seemed to specialise in these sort of things.
All I can say is, if there is a more congenial way to get laid, I've never encountered it!
Boat to Macau, taxi into town, arrived at Big Boss sauna, and got a shower and quick dip in the pool all before 1pm.
Had a pretty excellent three-quarter hour Thai massage, the only downside being that the masseuse was a) ugly as fuck and b) farting like a trooper throughout.
But things picked up afterwards soon enough. In the 'relax' room, wearing a pair of pyjamas and eating noodles, I was offered my choice of six Viets and two Taiwanese, nearly all of whom looked as if they'd been augmented in the chest department.
I passed on the Viet who was all over me like a rash, as desperation is not my aphrodisiac. Instead I plumped for a little looker, no 703 if you're ever in the vicinity with real looking tits.
Cut a long story short, I got a tit massage, then a quick BBBJ, then the soapy, then back to the BBBJ only this time with ice cubes and mentos.
I wasn't quick to rise to the challenge as I was so tired from the flight and boat, so 703 pushed the boat out and started tonguing my asshole with an icecube in her mouth. Everyone should try that once!
After DATY, during which she moaned pretty convincingly, I jumped up and gave as good as I got, getting a shot off before the bell.
I spent another hour there recovering from some pretty athletic sex, smoking cigs and drinking tea and fruit juice. Then back to the boat, the airport and off to Bangkok, where I am in Giotto's place right now, writing this.
Total price of the Macau jaunt - 1488 HK$. Well worth it, in my humble opinion.
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Number of the "141 hotel reservation" girls are available for "overnight stay".
What the deal? You take them for their "last hours" - let's say from 2:00 to 3:00 and then they stay with you until???? Anyone knows these rates??
Hi Folks,
Does anybody know a place where to find an Indian tantra-massage in Hong Kong?
Thanks for your help ;-)
[QUOTE=Firebird]Number of the "141 hotel reservation" girls are available for "overnight stay".
What the deal? You take them for their "last hours" - let's say from 2:00 to 3:00 and then they stay with you until???? Anyone knows these rates??[/QUOTE]I assume that would be the typical procedure. I've managed to click with the girl and after one or two repeat visits, I've spent the night. As a courtesy I normally tip if I take another shot in the morning (between 50 to 100%). The few times I've been quoted an extra price beforehand, I usually refuse. And yes, it's usually towards the end of her shift though doesn't have to be 2-3am, midnight has been ok. If it's early, say 8pm or so usually not ok.
Sleeping overnight in those rooms (not the hotel reservation types) is not very comfortable though. The bed is not very large, it tends to be noisy and will get a few random knocks/doorbell rings even if the sign says "wait". It can be fun hanging out with them though. Drinking/eating, occasionally with a friend who happens to pop by.
[QUOTE=Oliver 0205]I am in HK 6 times per year and Fenwicks is my first address for the nights. Never I paid more then 1500 for a LT and this only a few times because I didnt want to spent so much time there at these nights and I left quite early with the girls.
I agree that it is difficult to get the sometimes arrogant Colombians for 1500 for a LT, but after some drinks and some small talk in spanish they also will come with you. Maybe you just had some bad luck at these nights.
By the way, how was/is the situation now during CNY? Less girls or same. I will be back in HK end of the month.[/QUOTE]Chinese New Year (CYN) was much the same as the other times I have visited HK, with the exception of the availability of Thai girls, who clearly got the message that customers would be few and far between - as indeed they were. This was compensated for by a surplus of flippers, as most domestic helpers got several days holiday and hence were looking to top up their meagre earnings with some extra cash. Going rate seemed to be HK$1000 ST for the Thais and $1500-$2000 LT. Flippers much cheaper; $500-$1000.
The Thai's have got the message about the HK Sevens at the end of March. I expect their favourite hangout's - Joe Bananas and Neptune - will be well stocked then. A bun fight awaits the brave!
[QUOTE=Neuromancer]I assume that would be the typical procedure. I've managed to click with the girl and after one or two repeat visits, I've spent the night. As a courtesy I normally tip if I take another shot in the morning (between 50 to 100%). The few times I've been quoted an extra price beforehand, I usually refuse. And yes, it's usually towards the end of her shift though doesn't have to be 2-3am, midnight has been ok. If it's early, say 8pm or so usually not ok.
Sleeping overnight in those rooms (not the hotel reservation types) is not very comfortable though. The bed is not very large, it tends to be noisy and will get a few random knocks/doorbell rings even if the sign says "wait". It can be fun hanging out with them though. Drinking/eating, occasionally with a friend who happens to pop by.[/QUOTE]
I have read in the forum where the "hotel reservation" girls also can come to YOUR hotel room - or did I read this incorrectly. That definitely would be more comfortable for me and I am sure for the girl.
Hi guys,
Does anyone know where exactly Kpressure is?
Looking for 4pack of soft "C", sounds indeed better than paying xxxUSd for 30pack.
Please advise & give direction. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Wickedsmahtkris]Thanks, Firebird. I'll give the KPressure pharm a shot. At $50USD per 4pack, it seems the better deal is to go with the 30pack. However, I'd hate to get a 30pack of blue sugar pills for $200USD! Just like this forum is "consumer advocacy" on service providers for mongering, it'd be great for everyone to get learn the real deal on vitamin providers. If even one pharmacy became reputable and consistent, they'd surely benefit from steady business from this mongering crowd. I hope to report back with good news in on the KPressure pharm in a couple weeks. Looks like I'll hang loose 'til then (ouch).
Smahty[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Firebird]I have read in the forum where the "hotel reservation" girls also can come to YOUR hotel room - or did I read this incorrectly. That definitely would be more comfortable for me and I am sure for the girl.[/QUOTE]They'll charge you an extra 200 or so delivery fee. I've never tried having them delivered + overnight so can't say for sure, though you could always ask!
[QUOTE=Sextrip 69]Hi guys,
Does anyone know where exactly Kpressure is?
Looking for 4pack of soft "C", sounds indeed better than paying xxxUSd for 30pack.
Please advise & give direction. Thanks![/QUOTE]
Hey "newbie", look into the Hong Kong Map section of the Forum. Tiger 888 posted a map you can use to find K Pressure
[QUOTE=Firebird]I have read in the forum where the "hotel reservation" girls also can come to YOUR hotel room - or did I read this incorrectly. That definitely would be more comfortable for me and I am sure for the girl.[/QUOTE]
You read correctly. I have often used the hotel reservation girls. Phone the number quoted - it is invariably answered by a male who can speak english. Tell him who you want and your hotel. He will phone you at the hotel to make sure the call is genuine. He will then phone the hotel again about 10/15 mins before the girl arrives to make sure you are there and everything is OK. Sometimes the girl you want is not available and they will offer another - look at her photo to ensure she is OK. My experiences are that they always send a good one because you could simply say no when she arrives and everyone loses out then. Expect to pay a bit more for her taxi. I have had some stunners sent to my hotel. Down side was - no kissing and they don't speak a word of English,
I will be trying this myself in 2 weeks time when I am back in HK. Cant wait.
Good luck.
Used to live in HK for ten years and now monger all over Asia.
Thanks to having my prostate removed I rely on "pills" to help. Kind of like flying on one engine otherwise.
Found several places in HK that sell proper tabs, but two other things to note.
1. Kamagra is an Indian generic drug. Has same contents as Vitamin V. But way way way cheaper. I buy it in BKK, but I'm sure it must be around in HK somewhere. I pay about US10 for 4 tablets of 100g. One tab works same as viagra 100g or cialis 20g. But better is the jelly. You can mix it with water and within 15 minutes yr good to go. Jelly is about US2 per sachet.
2. Discussed all these tablets with my doc. Why sometimes it goes up like a rocket, an why sometimes slow slow slow to rise. He rightly says its whats on your mind and in your belly. Alcohol and fatty foods slow down the rate of absorption. But more than that, all sex is mental. If your in the mood for it, hormones flowing. Its goes up. If your doing it as a chore, girls fat or you just want to do it to sleep, well maybe its not so willling to rise. And the results show.
Anyways, with the quality of fake packaging so well done you may never know what your buying unless you know where your buying it from. Thankfully where I live you can now buy Viagra/Cialis over the counter at Watsons. No prescription needed. But when I got less money, then Kamagra works for me too!
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Went to 37D. Was presented with 3 fatties. I asked for other girls. They said only these 3, not many working now due to Chinese New Year. What the fuck, I chose one. On the way up and on the way down I saw 3 other normal looking girls with other guys. WTF? All but the fatties were taken I suppose. I should have waited or left, but I was horny and knew I wouldn't have time to return this week.
So we went through the usual routine. She really had a good attitude and got into the sex, but it didn't make up for the fact that she just was not that attractive. For the first time ever I left the silly porn playing on the TV in the room so I'd have something interesting to look at. She did come several times from my DATY and told me it was great, so I figured I'd done a bit of sexual charity.
If you're considering going, wait a few days for the girls to come back.
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket[/QUOTE]Hey Johnny, sorry to hear you had to choose from a lineup of pokers. I think you just walked in at peak time.
I hit 37D last night and hooked up with a Ying Ying or Ling Ying or Ying Ling, whatever. Anyhow, she was the best out of a lineup of 5 girls. I like tall and slim and she kinda fit this bill. She was okay in the looks department but more than made it up with unbelievalbe BBBJ. She is a true artist. Made my toes curl. She also has good rim skills but I'm not really into this.
[QUOTE=Firebird]I have read in the forum where the "hotel reservation" girls also can come to YOUR hotel room - or did I read this incorrectly. That definitely would be more comfortable for me and I am sure for the girl.[/QUOTE]I have had 141 girls delivered to my room. Just negotiate with the papa.
And the rate was the same although I tipped her a little more. I only had LFK and they no-speak-english.
I also have had overnigthers in my hotel with 141. Usually you can look to triple the rate if you want them from around 10ish at night to next morning.
So if there rate is 600 then expect to pay 1800. If its already 2am or so then I think this can be negotiated.
[QUOTE=Sextrip 69]Hi guys,
Does anyone know where exactly Kpressure is?
Looking for 4pack of soft "C", sounds indeed better than paying xxxUSd for 30pack.
Please advise & give direction. Thanks![/QUOTE]Jordan Rd, you'll see a pic of girls and a "$390" above a 7/11, it's there.
It's about three blocks from Nathan Rd, I think it's exit A from the MTR but not 100% sure on that.
The 7/11 is opposite some sort of park.
Those of you who've gone to 37D - after you are done with the girl and walk down, do you go back to the 2nd flr to speak with the mamasan?
when i was done, i simply left. The girl seemed a bit surprised. maybe i should've gone back to complain? i didn't really have a good experience with my girl.
Timewaster, you don't have to go back to talk to the mamasan, but you can if you like. Usually I don't unless I want to complain or praise. Sometimes the mamasan asks me how it was, usually not.
Can we really get Viagra/Cialis in Watson without a prescription in HK? How much do they cost?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Used to live in HK for ten years and now monger all over Asia.
Thanks to having my prostate removed I rely on "pills" to help. Kind of like flying on one engine otherwise.
Found several places in HK that sell proper tabs, but two other things to note.
1. Kamagra is an Indian generic drug. Has same contents as Vitamin V. But way way way cheaper. I buy it in BKK, but I'm sure it must be around in HK somewhere. I pay about US10 for 4 tablets of 100g. One tab works same as viagra 100g or cialis 20g. But better is the jelly. You can mix it with water and within 15 minutes yr good to go. Jelly is about US2 per sachet.
2. Discussed all these tablets with my doc. Why sometimes it goes up like a rocket, an why sometimes slow slow slow to rise. He rightly says its whats on your mind and in your belly. Alcohol and fatty foods slow down the rate of absorption. But more than that, all sex is mental. If your in the mood for it, hormones flowing. Its goes up. If your doing it as a chore, girls fat or you just want to do it to sleep, well maybe its not so willling to rise. And the results show.
Anyways, with the quality of fake packaging so well done you may never know what your buying unless you know where your buying it from. Thankfully where I live you can now buy Viagra/Cialis over the counter at Watsons. No prescription needed. But when I got less money, then Kamagra works for me too![/QUOTE]
Well I lost my Wan Chai virginity anyway... sort of. Not having any luck finding a brothel that still served Flippers, Saturday night I went to Laguna.
It reminded me a lot of a high school dance. Girls on the floor writhing, guys looking awkward, the fatties congregating in the corners.
Didn't find that many lookers. The first few I tried to dance with wouldn't even give me the time of day--WTF? One just walked away while I was trying to talk to her. Another practically ignored me. I'm not ugly or too fat. I thought these girls were there to make money. I felt out of place, maybe it showed. Plus it stank of smoke and I hate that. A few well-worn, bigger girls were grabbing me and giving me the hey baby routine. No thanks.
I did start dancing with one girl I met over by the TVs. When I got her out into the light of the dance floor though I noticed she was not as hot as I thought. After about 10 minutes I used the "bathroom" excuse to rid myself of her.
Finally I happened upon Vianne, who was sitting on a bar stool looking unhappy and bored, but pretty. We started talking. I had a rhythm and asked her to dance. She didn't want to, said she didn't know how. Well neither do I, you just do it. But we kept talking and amazingly enough managed to have a real conversation. We discussed our families, travel, HK, jobs, etc for half an hour or more. She said she was going back to the Philippines as soon as possible because she didn't know what kind of job this was and knew she couldn't cut it but was desperate to make some money. She said how unhappy she was and that she'd had no customers in her week there and just wanted to get home. I told her this was my first time here and I felt very out of place. I told her I liked her but if she was unhappy I wouldn't ask her to go with me. She said it's okay, I need the money and I like you too. I asked how much. She said, well they tell me the standard charge is 1000. I said I've heard that too. And I would have been willing to pay that for ST for a cutie and a sweetie like her. However I could see how unhappy she was and that was a turn-off although I genuinely liked her. I didn't feel right about it. I told her so and told her I wish her happiness and we shared a long hug and I kissed her gently and left.
It is not really my scene. However I've a hankering for a Flip now and again so I may return. So long as I can find a looker who doesn't depress me with a story like Vianne's so I can manage not to feel bad about what I'm doing.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Well I lost my Wan Chai virginity anyway... sort of. Not having any luck finding a brothel that still served Flippers, Saturday night I went to Laguna.
[/QUOTE]
Laguna has the poorest lookers of the big three (Neptunes, Fenwicks, Laguna). Go to Fenwicks after 11:30 pm if you want a cute Flipper and just don't ask about her life. They are mostly programmed to tell stories.
I'll be landing at the Hong Kong airport at 10 p.m., which means I'm not likely to make it to my hotel until midnight. Are there any good options at that hour?
Also, will I need a mobile phone to arrange for a 141 visit? Or can I just go to one of the commonly advertised locations like the James S. Lee Mansion, and go shopping in person?
Guys - especially those with legal backgrounds:
What are the dangers/implications of posting nude/sex pictures here. Seems to me that there is a bit of danger as recent events have sort of proven i.e. the guys being charged over the Star pictures, and the jilted guy posting nude net pixs of his ex-GF as per the flwg SCMP 19-2-08 article:
SE Asia Joe
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Jilted man faces jail for nude Net pics
Vengeful salesman let off lightly for posting photos, sex videos of his ex, court told
Sherry Lee
Feb 19, 2008
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A heavier sentence may await a salesman ordered by a court last year to perform community service for posting on the internet nude photos of his girlfriend and video clips of them having sex as revenge for her breaking up with him.
Gold salesman Lee Wing-fung pleaded guilty in September in Tsuen Wan Court to three charges and was sentenced to 240 hours of community service. The Department of Justice applied for a review of his sentence, which was heard yesterday.
Magistrate Albert Wong Sung-hau, who passed the original sentence on Lee, adjourned his ruling to March 3. He said that if Lee was found to deserve a jail term, he should be jailed even if he had a good community service report.
In sparing him imprisonment in September, the magistrate had cited his remorse and guilty pleas.
Lee admitted uploading six nude photographs of his girlfriend and eight sex videos on three websites on Valentine's Day last year. Accompanying the pictures and videos were the woman's English and Chinese names, the district in which she worked and the name of the building in which a doctor she consulted has his office.
Lee was convicted of one charge of criminal intimidation, one of publishing an indecent article, in respect of the photographs, and one of publishing an obscene article, in relation to the videos.
The District Court heard yesterday that the 29-year-old had acted out of anger and to get revenge on his victim for breaking up with him after dating a rich man. The pair had been lovers for three years from 2003.
Government counsel David Leung told the court similar cases in the past had resulted in an offender being jailed for more than six months and others being given suspended jail sentences.
The case was reported to police after two friends of the victim alerted her to the pictures on the internet.
Barrister Freddy Woon, for Lee, argued that the salesman had acted on impulse, and said the case should not be compared to the previous ones, which involved defendants distributing obscene and indecent articles regularly on the internet as a hobby.
But Mr Leung disagreed Lee had acted on impulse, saying he had told his victim: "You are disloyal, I am unrighteous. I am a silly person who must take revenge."
The fact that the items had been placed on three websites showed Lee had not acted impulsively, he said.
He also said Lee's decision to publish personal information with the pictures and videos - which showed the victim's face - could have caused her severe harm, since people could identify her. This showed that Lee wanted her to be recognised, he said.
The court heard that the defendant had already served 160 hours of community service, in which he had performed well.
Mr Woon said that since Lee had spent two weeks in jail on remand, it would be unfair to imprison him now.
He asked the court to take into account that the defendant had not put the victim's address on the internet.
[QUOTE=Etaoin2003]I'll be landing at the Hong Kong airport at 10 p.m., which means I'm not likely to make it to my hotel until midnight. Are there any good options at that hour?
Also, will I need a mobile phone to arrange for a 141 visit? Or can I just go to one of the commonly advertised locations like the James S. Lee Mansion, and go shopping in person?[/QUOTE]Etaoin,
Shit midnight is not too late most ktv and night club open until late and sauna open 24 hr and I have arrive late and spend the night at the sauna have the massage save money for the hotel room , if you are stay at HK side most monger don't hit the wan chai bar after midnight anyway .
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Guys - especially those with legal backgrounds:
What are the dangers/implications of posting nude/sex pictures here. Seems to me that there is a bit of danger as recent events have sort of proven i.e. the guys being charged over the Star pictures, and the jilted guy posting nude net pixs of his ex-GF as per the flwg SCMP 19-2-08 article:
.[/QUOTE]
If you are in HK and post a nude photo deemed to be pornographic that can be classified as distributing porn and is illegal.
The question is whether a nude photo is pornographic as opposed to you showing yourself busting your wad over a girls face.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]If you are in HK and post a nude photo deemed to be pornographic that can be classified as distributing porn and is illegal.
The question is whether a nude photo is pornographic as opposed to you showing yourself busting your wad over a girls face.[/QUOTE]
Yes - from what I can determine - it seems that if you post INDECENT pictures, it is somehow OK - but if you post OBSCENE pictures, they're gonna throw you in jail - and in the case of the poor sap who first posted those pixs of the stars, jailed without bail!.
Whether a picture is indecent or obscene is suppossed to be determined by some kind of an obscenity tribunal (?). All very weird methinks!
SE Asia
HKDog, where are Neptunes and Fenwicks? Honestly I only found Laguna because I was just wandering around. I don't know the area.
Also which hotel is the norm? Villa Victoria?
Thanks... mongered all over HK but don't know the Wanch basics!
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]HKDog, where are Neptunes and Fenwicks? Honestly I only found Laguna because I was just wandering around. I don't know the area.
Also which hotel is the norm? Villa Victoria?
Thanks... mongered all over HK but don't know the Wanch basics![/QUOTE]
Johnny,
Laguna is actually on Fenwick St.! If you go South from Laguna for less than a block, you will be at the junction of Fenwick & Lockhart and Fenwick is at the NE corner of this junction. Neptunes is east of Fenwicks on Jafee Rorad which is the next street north of Lockhart. See [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=398108&postcount=5[/url] by Tiger 888 for a map.
APAC Man
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]... spend the night at the sauna have the massage save money for the hotel room[/QUOTE]
Great idea ... is there a good place to securely store luggage, perhaps at the airport express station or a subway station in Kowloon? I will need to pick up the luggage and head to Macau the following day.
[QUOTE=Etaoin2003]I'll be landing at the Hong Kong airport at 10 p.m., which means I'm not likely to make it to my hotel until midnight. Are there any good options at that hour?
Also, will I need a mobile phone to arrange for a 141 visit? Or can I just go to one of the commonly advertised locations like the James S. Lee Mansion, and go shopping in person?[/QUOTE]
I too would like to pick-up and buy a Mobile phone for my upcoming one week visit - what are the option?? It is possible to purchase a "pre-paid" cell phone for local use?
[QUOTE=Etaoin2003]Great idea ... is there a good place to securely store luggage, perhaps at the airport express station or a subway station in Kowloon? I will need to pick up the luggage and head to Macau the following day.[/QUOTE]
Etaoin
There is a left luggage at HK Airport express station, it‘ｓ not the easiest to find but it is sign posted.
There is a luggage storage at the Macau Ferry terminal also. Go ask at the ticket counter. they will help you.
[QUOTE=Firebird]I too would like to pick-up and buy a Mobile phone for my upcoming one week visit - what are the option?? It is possible to purchase a "pre-paid" cell phone for local use?[/QUOTE]
Assuming you have an unlocked cell phone, you just need to go to any 7-11 or newstand and pick up a local sim card, don't need a new phone. If you don't have an unlocked cell, then buy one (range from USD 10-300) and it should work in any Asian/European country with the appropriate sim card. BTW, the ariport has numerous vendors on the departure floor.
humph.... here's "enjo kosai" (compensated dating) happening in our very own hong kong and me.. not aware that this japanese trend is alive and well here. worse i really don't know where to even start to dwelve into this world of nubile semi pros! anybody here know where a non chinese reading and writing guy can go to participate?
se asia joe
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south china morning post
kiss & sell
more and more teenage girls are offering men paid companionship and sex, but the seedy trade of 'compensated dating' comes at a price
elaine yau
feb 21, 2008
tucking into a banana dessert in a mong kok upstairs cafe, 21-year-old sugar chats vivaciously about her studies and social life. but the cherubic-looking young woman hides a secret: she has a lucrative sideline in compensated dating, a euphemism for paid companionship and sex.
"i have slept with more than 20 men," says sugar, describing her exploits with the nonchalance of a hardened prostitute. "my clients come from all kinds of backgrounds. some are bespectacled nerds. some are family men with kids who are frustrated by their wives' aversion to sexual experimentation."
sugar is among a growing number of young women engaged in compensated dating, a trend introduced from japan several years ago. known as enjo kosai - enjo meaning subsidy and kosai meaning company or association - the practice emerged in the country during the 1990s when young women began to earn extra cash by catering to male fetishes and providing companionship to mostly middle-aged businessmen.
in hong kong, a spate of explicit stories in the chinese press in recent months has led to a surge in the seedy business.
however, sugar isn't a beneficiary. she laments that interest in young women like her is waning due to fierce competition from teenagers out to finance their addiction to expensive designer gear.
"girls in their early twenties are already considered old," says sugar. "when i first entered the business two years ago, men were willing to pay hk$1,300 a night. now, you can easily find a 16- or 17-year-old through the internet, and many regard me as too expensive."
the rise in schoolgirls venturing into the trade also means fewer return clients for sugar. "no matter how pretty you are, most men never come back after one date since they have so many to choose from," she says.
strictly speaking, compensated dating excludes sexual contact but girls who start with holding hands and kissing on dates often move on to intercourse with clients.
it's a slippery slope, says chui yat-hung, a social science lecturer at the polytechnic university who has interviewed several girls in his research.
the girls' moral boundaries become fuzzier after a few paid dates as they grow accustomed to the idea, he says, and once the barrier of intercourse is breached they succumb more easily to monetary temptation because there's less meaning attached to sexual contact.
yang memorial methodist social services, a welfare group which conducted a survey last year of teenage girls involved in paid dating, cites lack of parental care, deepening materialism among young people and easy communication through the internet as factors for the spread of paid dating.
the explosion of web guides listing terms and rules for paid dating is alarming, says chiu tak-choi, supervisor of a youth centre run by the group. it found some 200 websites and forums advertising paid-dating services.
"the ease with which young girls can access the information, coupled with peer pressure, puts them in a vulnerable situation," chiu says.
sugar, who solicits clients by posting messages on web forums, says the plethora of sites helps draw more teenage girls into the trade.
"you don't even need an agent," she says. "a post on those sites can elicit dozens of responses a night. i discuss all the terms and payment with brothers [male clients] through msn. from posting a message on a forum to going out on a date, the whole transaction is completed in a matter of a few days."
but for all her candidness, sugar is careful to distinguish herself from teenagers entering the fray. she comes from a broken family that still relies on welfare, and selling her body is a last resort to deal with financial difficulties, she says.
"i don't do that because i want to buy an lv [designer bag]. the money i earn helps pay for my tuition fees and my elder sister's credit card debts. i feel guilty about acting like a prostitute," she says. "but many young ccs [cantonese slang for paid dates] i know are really shameless and boast of their high earnings and designer goods as if that's a great feat. i used to be a part-time tutor. the meagre pay of hk$80 an hour is a pittance compared to what i earn as a cc."
a quick internet search shows just how easy it is to arrange a seedy tryst. input "compensated dating" and you'll call up a host of virtual hangouts frequented by men in search of casual sex.
an it specialist in his late 20s, peter leung (not his real name) is among the "brothers" seeking the comfort of paid dates.
"i first learned about it several years ago when icq [instant messaging] was all the rage among young people. my first paid date was arranged by an agent who charged me hk$100 for a referral," he says.
although there are many cheap prostitutes across the border, the willingness of hong kong men to pay a premium for local girls attests to their desire for fresh, young women. leung, for example, was initially driven by curiosity but a taste for young girls kept him going back for more. "mainland prostitutes are mostly patronised by grass roots, middle-aged men. educated local men regard local ccs as fresher and less experienced," says leung, who holds a master's degree.
he concedes that clients are deluding themselves in thinking that local "dates" are cleaner than prostitutes who may have venereal disease. "that's why i have regular medical checkups," he says.
nevertheless, he adds: "if they have the cash to spare, men always prefer courtesans to hard-core prostitutes."
sugar agrees. "we fulfil the fantasies of some hong kong men who can't meet girls like us within their social circles. whether it's a man with only secondary education having sex with a university student, a nerdy introvert sleeping with a gregarious girl or a middle-aged guy bedding a high-school student, they can venture outside their circles."
young women involved in paid dating face the same hazards as prostitutes, including violent clients, sexual disease and legal penalties.
"instead of being a risk-free way to earn quick bucks, compensated dating can expose them to a host of dangers, including [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], unwanted pregnancy and a sense of shame that can haunt them forever," says chiu.
the youth worker says teenage girls involved in paid dating often develop distorted notions of sex and love. "many are convinced they can distinguish between their boyfriends and clients. some have the wrong idea that they have the final say over the transactions, which makes them different from prostitutes."
reports in the chinese press over the past year offer stark reminders of the other risks girls take when going out with clients: in january last year, a 19-year-old was raped and photos of the girl stripped and gagged with a chloroform-soaked towel were circulated on the web. six months later, a 15-year-old student was robbed and raped.
girls touting sexual services online can be charged with soliciting for an immoral purpose, which carries the maximum penalty of six months' jail and a fine of hk$10,000. a 15-year-old girl was arrested in a police raid last year after her pimp posted her photo on the internet to solicit for business.
sugar acknowledges her part-time job is fraught with risk; she has been forced to endure rough sex and had a client run off after groping her through their dinner date, leaving her with a huge bill.
but she says she needs the money. "i'll quit when i have saved enough to pay for all my tuition. i feel guilty every time; i am always torn between my urge to earn money and my revulsion for what i do. it is a constant struggle."
her secret life has certainly put paid to any fantasies of romance. "i don't have a boyfriend now. you can't have a boyfriend living a life like mine," she says. "i don't share ordinary girls' dreams of true love and romance. all men are the same. even if they have a dutiful wife or a decent girlfriend, they always long for excitement outside."
SEAsia Joe, I'd be very interested in that too. I'll do a little poking around online.
Last night I went to 37D. I told them the last few times they've given me fatties and I'm not accepting one this time. Was shown 4 girls and chose Fei Fei--not "fat fat" like the recently deceased actress Lydia Shum, but "fly fly," like Faye Wong's name. For those of you who speak Cantonese.
Anyway, she was thin and sweet looking and wearing very normal clothes... not like the slutty ones you often see the girls wearing. We got to talking. Local HK girl. She speaks excellent English. I was carrying with me a work of great literature and she took it and started reading from it. Impressive. We discussed it while undressing and showering.
One interesting thing was that the normal 3rd floor hotel was full and we went up to the 9th floor instead. It cost $20 less. I just let her keep it.
Very cute tits, pretty average for Chinese girls, with big protruding nipples. Very firm, at first I thought they might be fake but couldn't find any evidence of it.
Pretty standard fuck, I DATY and she came a couple of times. The only thing I didn't like was that after I DATY she wanted to wash my mouth and wash herself before we fucked. But everything else was very nice, she was into it and seemed very genuine.
After showering we left, she leaned on me and wrapped her arms around me and told me I was a great guy and she hoped to see me again. For me that really adds to the experience. Treat them right and they will return the favor.
She's worth seeing. I'll repeat.
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]SEAsia Joe, I'd be very interested in that too. I'll do a little poking around online.[/QUOTE]
Good article SE Joe.
I found a plethora of sites on this with keywords 援交 妹 香港. Not sure which site works.
Interesting to see how this fad works out in HK. I'm not sure how it is in Japan where it orginated, but in more economically developed countries like Taiwan and Korea this fad has come and gone.
Personally I think unregulated sex trade creates a cesspool of fraud and deceit, for both parties. Indeed most of the keyword search returns more follies and crime stories then actual meeting sites.
Incidentally this subsidized dating I believe has lived quietly under the giant sex trade machine that is Hong Kong in small MongKok KTVs and 'Internet Bars' in one form or another.
The girls at those places are all 18-20, acting ostensibly as hotstess when in fact you pay 200-500 to the manager and you take the girl out for 800-1k. But since the girls are not independent and works in a cafe, it takes the fun out of the spirit of underwrite a damsel in distress.
It is not a model that can flourish under huge public eye and participation. To wit, the bigger it gets, the less chance it has in sustaining.
HT
[QUOTE=Hat Trick]Good article SE Joe.
I found a plethora of sites on this with keywords 援交 妹 香港. Not sure which site works.
Interesting to see how this fad works out in HK. I'm not sure how it is in Japan where it orginated, but in more economically developed countries like Taiwan and Korea this fad has come and gone.
Personally I think unregulated sex trade creates a cesspool of fraud and deceit, for both parties. Indeed most of the keyword search returns more follies and crime stories then actual meeting sites.
Incidentally this subsidized dating I believe has lived quietly under the giant sex trade machine that is Hong Kong in small MongKok KTVs and 'Internet Bars' in one form or another.
The girls at those places are all 18-20, acting ostensibly as hotstess when in fact you pay 200-500 to the manager and you take the girl out for 800-1k. But since the girls are not independent and works in a cafe, it takes the fun out of the spirit of underwrite a damsel in distress.
It is not a model that can flourish under huge public eye and participation. To wit, the bigger it gets, the less chance it has in sustaining.
HT[/QUOTE]I guess that compensated dating is a little like "Talking Bars" in Taiwan? It's been a couple years since I've been to one but I assume that they're still around. I've never actually scored one from a Talking Bar, but pretty sure it's possible (from what other buddies have told me anyway). Sort of like Wan Chai bars where you buy lady drinks. The fact that extras really aren't pushed or even mentioned gives it a more independent feel. Need to have game to actually score, but then you won't get rejected out of hand as you may in a civilian bar.
[QUOTE=Neuromancer]I guess that compensated dating is a little like "Talking Bars" in Taiwan? It's been a couple years since I've been to one but I assume that they're still around. I've never actually scored one from a Talking Bar, but pretty sure it's possible (from what other buddies have told me anyway). Sort of like Wan Chai bars where you buy lady drinks. The fact that extras really aren't pushed or even mentioned gives it a more independent feel. Need to have game to actually score, but then you won't get rejected out of hand as you may in a civilian bar.[/QUOTE]
First a disclaimer! My knowledge on this subject comes from what I have read in newspapers and Talking to a few local people. I have never been offered this or know anyone who has done it or doing it.
Having said that, the local girls are recruited from usual teen hangs-out. They are befriended by agents that gets them free food and drinks or get them free access to venues that are popular and have long lines and high cover charge. The next step they encourage the girls to by high price brand name items and they suggests to them to have dates with rich "Chinese" guys in exchange for some money. On the other hand, the rich guys through their own network and contacts set up the date and when they are in HK for business, they have these girls as companion. The clients are exclusively rich Chinese men from places like Singapore, Malaysia, or mainland. An older looking Chinese gentleman sitting in a restaurant with a young Chinese lady will not attract any attention.
Apparently searches for this in the Internet will just returns related stories rather than actual contact.
What you hear and experience could be 180 degree opposite of what I have heard.
APAC Man
Any thoughts much appreciated.
I mean pick up not pay to!
[QUOTE=Jiggy]Any thoughts much appreciated.
I mean pick up not pay to![/QUOTE]
Jiggy, RTFF. We talked about this a few pages back. If you are rich, at the top of your (prestigious) profession, impeccably dressed in something seen on a catwalk not more than 2 weeks ago, stunningly handsome, and willing to spend a lot of money and put up with truly frightening attitudes, excessive vanity and unwarranted arrogance, you have a legitimate shot at picking up a HK girl for "free" at clubs in Lan Kwai Fong and a few other locales.
Otherwise, RTFF again and pick your PFP poison.
[QUOTE=Jiggy]Any thoughts much appreciated.
I mean pick up not pay to![/QUOTE]
Jiggy, looking at many of your past posts, you asked the SAME question for every place you visited before.
Don't be lazy and expect to be "spoon fed" - do your "homework" and read the last 10-20 pages of the HK forum - you WILL find the answer to your question in the forum!!!
[QUOTE=Jiggy]Any thoughts much appreciated.
I mean pick up not pay to![/QUOTE]
Is there any country in this world that you can walk in to a bar or club as Joe Tourist and just pick up a local girl for free? If yes, please let me know and I'll be packing.
APAC Man
What does the PD mean in 服務所有人仕PD ? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Apac Man]Is there any country in this world that you can walk in to a bar or club as Joe Tourist and just pick up a local girl for free? If yes, please let me know and I'll be packing.
APAC Man[/QUOTE]
......indonesia
[QUOTE=Apac Man]Is there any country in this world that you can walk in to a bar or club as Joe Tourist and just pick up a local girl for free? If yes, please let me know and I'll be packing.
APAC Man[/QUOTE]Japan. But it requires some game and it really helps if you're younger/decent looking.
I lived there for 6 months. I've seen some pretty weird things go down so you never know.
[QUOTE=Neuromancer]I guess that compensated dating is a little like "Talking Bars" in Taiwan? It's been a couple years since I've been to one but I assume that they're still around. I've never actually scored one from a Talking Bar, but pretty sure it's possible (from what other buddies have told me anyway). Sort of like Wan Chai bars where you buy lady drinks. The fact that extras really aren't pushed or even mentioned gives it a more independent feel. Need to have game to actually score, but then you won't get rejected out of hand as you may in a civilian bar.[/QUOTE]In Japan it's typically young girls.. I mean well below 18. In Japan the age of consent is something bizarre like 13 but most in the "compensated dating" game were 15-18.
I don't propose going there to pick up young girls but most of the "compensated dating" there rarely goes beyond the talking phase. When I was there, I'd hear stories about how girls met rich executives and married them for their $$ but most just used these guys who were tired as all hell with their wives and bought cell phones and gucci bags with the cash. Sort of did the whole geisha bit... doted them with praise and poured them drinks and listened to their problems.
This was a few years ago so it may not be a thing anymore but it was huge in 2004-2005.. probably started in 2002 or so.
[QUOTE=Apac Man]Is there any country in this world that you can walk in to a bar or club as Joe Tourist and just pick up a local girl for free? If yes, please let me know and I'll be packing.
APAC Man[/QUOTE]
Afghanistan - but only after you find the bar!
SE Asia Joe
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Afghanistan - but only after you find the bar!
SE Asia Joe[/QUOTE]Forget that! Go to " club romance " at the end of Lockhart Road (opposite San Fransico " and look out for Jenny the mamasan.
It will cost a bit of money but if you can convince her to go in the little room or go out with you you will understand the title of this report!
Go for it!
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]
[QUOTE=Apac Man]
Is there any country in this world that you can walk in to a bar or club as Joe Tourist and just pick up a local girl for free? If yes, please let me know and I'll be packing.
APAC Man[/QUOTE]
......indonesia[/QUOTE]
There we go :) I've never been to Indonesia! I'll start RTFF the Indonesia forum. SEA Joe's idea is tempting too, but I pass on that one! :)
But seriously. I have heard and seen tourist girls/ladies that while traveling let their hair down and look for local boys, but they behave when they are in their own environment and surroundings. So why an Indonesian female will be willing to go on a one night stand with a tourist for free?
Regards,
APAC Man
Hi guys,
Does anyone know where to meet Filipino, Indonesian or Thai girl on a weekday afternoon?
[QUOTE=Apac Man]Is there any country in this world that you can walk in to a bar or club as Joe Tourist and just pick up a local girl for free? If yes, please let me know and I'll be packing.
APAC Man[/QUOTE]
Mongolia, Indonesia, Philippines, Peru...and more....Just think of any country not quite contemporary in its development - sad to say. China used to be much easier, but, with wealth accumulating, the girls want a local guy.
[QUOTE=Softy]
[QUOTE=Apac Man]
Is there any country in this world that you can walk in to a bar or club as Joe Tourist and just pick up a local girl for free? If yes, please let me know and I'll be packing.
APAC Man[/QUOTE]
Mongolia, Indonesia, Philippines, Peru...and more....Just think of any country not quite contemporary in its development - sad to say. China used to be much easier, but, with wealth accumulating, the girls want a local guy.[/QUOTE]
I fully understand a girl from these countries, looking after her future, wanting to be the girlfriend of a foreigner, and hopefully one day his wife, but I do not believe that was the subject!
What Jiggy is asking is for a one night stand, for free, not a long term relationship. Of course if a girl from these places would think that she is so great that this one time fling would hook the guy for life, that's another story.
Regards,
APAC Man
[QUOTE=Benjao]Hi guys,
Does anyone know where to meet Filipino, Indonesian or Thai girl on a weekday afternoon?[/QUOTE]Victoria Park, Causeway Bay MTR area on any given Sunday.
[QUOTE=Qwerty On88]Forget that! Go to " club romance " at the end of Lockhart Road (opposite San Fransico " and look out for Jenny the mamasan.
It will cost a bit of money but if you can convince her to go in the little room or go out with you you will understand the title of this report!
Go for it![/QUOTE]
The mamsan's at Club Romance are about 60yrs old!! I used to like Romance but know a few guys who had to deal with the drips after being serviced there.
Looks like no here can get it for free and always has to pay for sex.
[QUOTE=Jiggy]Looks like no here can get it for free and always has to pay for sex.[/QUOTE]
Well why don't you tell us about yourself.
I have a friend who is an ex male model and picks up girls regularly. Do you have male model looks?
I have a friend who makes 2mio USD per year and is regularly getting laid since he shells out bottles of Krug and Don Perignon like its water. Do you have that kind of budget?
[QUOTE=Jiggy]Looks like no here can get it for free and always has to pay for sex.[/QUOTE]
It could be because this is a forum for mongering and not dating so people discuss mongering here and not dating/getting laid for free. (Although there are lots of reports of about freebies with domestic helpers here but I guess we can include that as mongering as very few of us view them much differently than working girls).
Can you get laid for free in Hong Kong with a nice local lady? Of course, and like most other major industrialized cities it generally takes some courting to get a nice young, professional, smart lady into the sack. These types of ladies usually have plenty of choices and do not just jump on every guy they see, especially someone who is just through town for a day or two. That is not to say that on occassion you may not luck out with a one night stand.
As someone who lives here I can tell you what many others have said it really helps to have $$$ with local ladies. If I am at a professional event, dressed to the nine's in Gieves and Hawkes suit, wearing a Paiget watch and give one my business card you can start to watch some of the local girls getting wet. The ones really in love with money are easy to pick up if one wanted to. If I saw the same girls on a weekend in my t-shirt and jeans and I asked them for the time of day they would generally ignore me.
Often one is looking for something else anyways. After a business dinner yesterday I wanted some fun and a lady I know from Manila got back in town the day before so I gave her a call. Met up with her in Wan Chai where I picked the prettiest of her five friends and we went off and had a nice three-way. It was no hassle and lots of fun. Would have been able to do the same with a couple nice young non-working local girls on no notice. I doubt it.
[QUOTE=Jiggy]Looks like no here can get it for free and always has to pay for sex.[/QUOTE]
You really have an attitude. Of course we have to pay for sex. We do not have the time or energy to chase women to get free sex or to hang out in bars when we do not speak Mandarin or Cantonese. That is why we come to this site rather than enroll in eharmony. com.
I don't know about the rest of you mongers on the ISG, but in my younger days I was into the dancing, drinking, partying, courting, pick up lines, buying gifts-dinners-etc. scene. And those routines took a lot of time, patience, money and sometimes resulted in a bruised ego and hurt feelings.
As I get older and possibly wiser, I find it is so much simpler to pay for sex instead of trying to get it for free, which winds up not usually free after all. Often you meet up with and pay for a really attractive girl too. And the best part is you can leave whenever you want to with no strings attached.
If you can get all the so-called free sex you can handle, then all power to you. But I have found that there really are very few truly free things in life.
[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden]I don't know about the rest of you mongers on the ISG, but in my younger days I was into the dancing, drinking, partying, courting, pick up lines, buying gifts-dinners-etc. scene. And those routines took a lot of time, patience, money and sometimes resulted in a bruised ego and hurt feelings.
As I get older and possibly wiser, I find it is so much simpler to pay for sex instead of trying to get it for free, which winds up not usually free after all. Often you meet up with and pay for a really attractive girl too. And the best part is you can leave whenever you want to with no strings attached.
If you can get all the so-called free sex you can handle, then all power to you. But I have found that there really are very few truly free things in life.[/QUOTE]
"Touche" - very well said!! I agree
[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]
Can you get laid for free in Hong Kong with a nice local lady? Of course, and like most other major industrialized cities it generally takes some courting to get a nice young, professional, smart lady into the sack. These types of ladies usually have plenty of choices and do not just jump on every guy they see, especially someone who is just through town for a day or two. That is not to say that on occassion you may not luck out with a one night stand.
As someone who lives here I can tell you what many others have said it really helps to have $$$ with local ladies. If I am at a professional event, dressed to the nine's in Gieves and Hawkes suit, wearing a Paiget watch and give one my business card you can start to watch some of the local girls getting wet. The ones really in love with money are easy to pick up if one wanted to. If I saw the same girls on a weekend in my t-shirt and jeans and I asked them for the time of day they would generally ignore me.
[/QUOTE]
Totally agree with you there man.
This is the game we play. haha.
Also, remember, not every guy in the world is into hookers, but most of us on this forum are, hehe. However, not every girl in the world is a hooker so we as guys all have a chance with non working girls!
Best of luck all.
[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden]I don't know about the rest of you mongers on the ISG, but in my younger days I was into the dancing, drinking, partying, courting, pick up lines, buying gifts-dinners-etc. scene. And those routines took a lot of time, patience, money and sometimes resulted in a bruised ego and hurt feelings.
As I get older and possibly wiser, I find it is so much simpler to pay for sex instead of trying to get it for free, which winds up not usually free after all. Often you meet up with and pay for a really attractive girl too. And the best part is you can leave whenever you want to with no strings attached.
If you can get all the so-called free sex you can handle, then all power to you. But I have found that there really are very few truly free things in life.[/QUOTE]
Right you are sir.
Think of it this way: you're not paying them for sex. You're paying them to leave afterward.
I think some of the posts on this thread are exaggerating the looks/wealth you need to get laid in HK. I don't look like a male model and I am not wealthy but do get laid regularly. If you really believe you need to be "stunningly handsome" or rich to get laid, then you have lost before you start. I have met girls here who are sick of the "you are so beautiful, check out my watch/car/boat etc". There are guys getting laid all the time, imagining them all to be investment bankers/models is a cop out.
That said, I do fully understand those who pay for it, particularly when you are travelling - its far easier.
[QUOTE=Paddy23]I think some of the posts on this thread are exaggerating the looks/wealth you need to get laid in HK. I don't look like a male model and I am not wealthy but do get laid regularly. If you really believe you need to be "stunningly handsome" or rich to get laid, then you have lost before you start. I have met girls here who are sick of the "you are so beautiful, check out my watch/car/boat etc". There are guys getting laid all the time, imagining them all to be investment bankers/models is a cop out.
That said, I do fully understand those who pay for it, particularly when you are travelling - its far easier.[/QUOTE]While probably true, I think that you'll need to go somewhere besides LKF. Maybe wanna try one of the more low-key party places in Causeway Bay or TST.
[QUOTE=Paddy23]I think some of the posts on this thread are exaggerating the looks/wealth you need to get laid in HK. I don't look like a male model and I am not wealthy but do get laid regularly. If you really believe you need to be "stunningly handsome" or rich to get laid, then you have lost before you start. I have met girls here who are sick of the "you are so beautiful, check out my watch/car/boat etc". There are guys getting laid all the time, imagining them all to be investment bankers/models is a cop out.
That said, I do fully understand those who pay for it, particularly when you are travelling - its far easier.[/QUOTE]
Yeh that's true.
However, being rich and handsome really makes it easier to date a relatively hotter girl.
Being rich and/or handsome dosn't always mean the guy is a showoff or jerk. I think any girl would prefer a great AND rich/handsome guy compared to just a great guy. The rich/handsome should'nt make the guy any less great. Just like any guy would prefer a pretty AND nice girl compared to just a pretty girl, hahaha.
Check out any city any street and you'll see fat, slim, tall, short, stunning, ugly, whatever girls with boyfriends. So you don't need to be rich and handsome but selection may be limited compared to the rich and handsome.
Damn, this means I gotta work harder.
I have heard somewhere that in Hong Kong you can get girls to go to the movies with you and they give you a hand job or blow job. And there is a special name for these girls. How do you go about getting them? I know it is some commercial thing that is going on, so please no replies like. "find yourself a girlfriend" type of stuff please.
Any info appreciated.
Is there anything in Hong Kong these days where young girls go to the movies with you and give you and hand job or a blow job. I heard a rumour about this a few years ago and just wanted to know if it was real. It is a commercial thing where you pay them money, of course, and they do their bit on you in the movie theatre.
Any info appreciated. I think is called "fishball" or something like that.
[QUOTE=Paddy23]I think some of the posts on this thread are exaggerating the looks/wealth you need to get laid in HK. I don't look like a male model and I am not wealthy but do get laid regularly. If you really believe you need to be "stunningly handsome" or rich to get laid, then you have lost before you start. I have met girls here who are sick of the "you are so beautiful, check out my watch/car/boat etc". There are guys getting laid all the time, imagining them all to be investment bankers/models is a cop out.
That said, I do fully understand those who pay for it, particularly when you are travelling - its far easier.[/QUOTE]
Completely agreed. This discussion makes it seem like Hong Kong women won't date a man unless he's a millionaire supermodel. If that were the case, very Hong Kong women would get dates, let alone get married.
Of course the better looking and rich you are, the better your results. But the truth is, most women know that they're not perfect and won't attract a millionaire playboy. So they have to settle.
90% of Hong Konger men get married and have a normal sex life. I assure you that 90% of Hong Kong men aren't millionaires or supermodels. So a lot of the posts here are just exaggerations....perhaps exaggerations to justify why they're in the hobby or why they're hopelessly single.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend]
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90% of Hong Konger men get married and have a normal sex life. I assure you that 90% of Hong Kong men aren't millionaires or supermodels. So a lot of the posts here are just exaggerations....perhaps exaggerations to justify why they're in the hobby or why they're hopelessly single.[/QUOTE]
We are talking about and mixing up 3 totally different things. 1) A local girl having a one-night stand with a random guy who is passing through town, 2) a local girl dating an expat who lives and works here, and 3) a local girl dating a local boy.
You are referring to case number 3 and you are 100% right, it is the same as any country in the world. There are a lot of things that local girls and boys have in common and as a result they meet, date, get married, have kids, and have a normal life. What started this discussion was case number one. Someone passing through town wants to have a one-night stand with a local girl. For whatever reason, we all know that this sort of one-night stand usually does not happen here in Hong Kong.
What we really are talking about is number 2, people like us, expats, who are living and working here dating local girls. When it comes to dating a local girl, it is not as easy as it might be in some other countries. It has to do with Chinese/local culture, girls upbringing, how the Chinese society in whole views inter-racial marriage, etc, etc. Is it possible to date a local girl? Of course! Is it easy? No! Would money and look help? Of course! Back in the US a 16-years old girl feels independent and feels she does not have to answer to her parents where as one local lady, age 31, that I had dated was worried about what her parents would think about her dating me. Girls here, like girls anywhere, look for future security and stability and for the most part we the foreigners are not known to provide that. Many of us are married, many of us do not have the same values that eastern people have, and many of us do not understand Chinese culture and traditions. So here is Ms. Princes, she had been raised by domestic helpers, she has never carried her backpack to school by herself, she has never walked in the rain because her nanny always walked behind her with the umbrella, she sleeps in bed with 50 stuffed animals, she does not do a damn thing all day long, and at night she goes partying in LKF. What is it that I have that is going to impress her? So we take the easy way, working class girls, non-local (Mainland immigrants) girls, domestic helpers, and of course working ladies.
Just my 2 cents,
APAC Man
[QUOTE=Apac Man]We are talking about and mixing up 3 totally different things. 1) A local girl having a one-night stand with a random guy who is passing through town, 2) a local girl dating an expat who lives and works here, and 3) a local girl dating a local boy.
What we really are talking about is number 2, people like us, expats, who are living and working here dating local girls. When it comes to dating a local girl, it is not as easy as it might be in some other countries. It has to do with Chinese/local culture, girls upbringing, how the Chinese society in whole views inter-racial marriage, etc, etc. Is it possible to date a local girl? Of course! Is it easy? No! Would money and look help? Of course! So here is Ms. Princes, she had been raised by domestic helpers, she sleeps in bed with 50 stuffed animals, she does not do a damn thing all day long, and at night she goes partying in LKF.
APAC Man[/QUOTE]Apacman: I agree with your breakdown of 1, 2, 3. However I think the original query was about #1. Some guy flying into town and trying to score freebie. I think we all agree on his chances.
As far as #2 is concerned, I'm too old to share any personal experiences in HK. But I do have a 24 yr old son who has now lived and worked there for two years. He does agree with your assessment that HK is more closed society than other countries (although I'm not sure I totally agree with him, given his limited 'experience' in living abroad).
The girls that go clubbing are looking for the young wel- to-do local and/or expat that will give them what they want in terms of material things. But it's less to do with 'inter-racial' marriage, and more with just being 'gold-diggers'. Btw us, my son is 100% Chinese, so when he goes clubbing, it's not a racial thing per se. He had a 'tough time' meeting locals, but 'broke' into the closed society because he happens to teach and tutor rich honkkies, who then in turn introduce him to young ladder climbing babes.
What happens in HK also is true in some other countries, although maybe not as prevalent. Singapore and Bangkok comes to mind. However in some other places, Jakarta being a prime example, the exact opposite is true. If you're young and hansum (translate = bule), scoring at the clubs with the rich and famous appears pretty common.
POV
[QUOTE=FurryFriend]Completely agreed. This discussion makes it seem like Hong Kong women won't date a man unless he's a millionaire supermodel. If that were the case, very Hong Kong women would get dates, let alone get married.
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We are talking about a tourist rocking into town for a weekend and scoring with a local girl in LKF, SoHo etc.
And we are not talking about going 'hogging' for a girl. The girl has to be non-disgusting at least.
Most local HK women have only fucked one man and that man is their local HK husband so I don't understand your comment.
Oh well, we are not gonna change the way we look unless we go Michael Jackson style.
Our personality really isn't gonna change that much by now.
So just work harder and smarter to be richer to increase your chances with working girls and non working girls.
Off topic, it is damn expensive to find a place to rent close to central.
APAC Man, you hit the nail on the head with your breakdown.
Of course a white dude (or anyone) can lay a local girl if he spends a lot of time with her and proves himself relationship material, even if he isn't rich or handsome and etc. But if you are just looking to empty your nuts into some local pussy with no strings attached, you are either going to have to have some serious game or pay for it. This is especially true if you are attached and can't easily spend lots of time away from home. The same is true in any wealthy, modern place. But it is compounded by Chinese culture.
That being said, if you are a good judge of character and have a little bit of game you can lay local girls. It does take a little work but I have been successful on a fair number of occasions and have had 2 fuck buddies in the several years I've lived here.
Saw Becky at 37D. Nothing to say that I haven't said before--treat them well, make them come, and you'll have a great experience. She was high quality.
Interesting--she said she has a local boyfriend. Never heard that before. He doesn't know what she does. Lives with her cousin supposedly.
Hi guys,
Please excuse me if this is in the wrong section of the forum but it's my first time posting!
I'm coming to HK soon and although I lived there for a few years back in the early 90s I confined my mongering to Wanchai bars like Neptunes and Big apple.
I know about the 141s but K pressure seems to be a good place to go and I need help. Where is it?
Many thanks,
Joolz
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]We are talking about a tourist rocking into town for a weekend and scoring with a local girl in LKF, SoHo etc.
And we are not talking about going 'hogging' for a girl. The girl has to be non-disgusting at least.
Most local HK women have only fucked one man and that man is their local HK husband so I don't understand your comment.[/QUOTE]Eh, I highly doubt that "most" local HK women have only fucked one man in their lifetime. Actually, I think that HK women are more promiscuous than American or Western women.
Realistically speaking. In what country can a tourist rock into town and score a local girl? Let me know and I'll have to make sure I stop by if I'm in the area.
[QUOTE=Bigjoolz1]Hi guys,
Please excuse me if this is in the wrong section of the forum but it's my first time posting!
I'm coming to HK soon and although I lived there for a few years back in the early 90s I confined my mongering to Wanchai bars like Neptunes and Big apple.
I know about the 141s but K pressure seems to be a good place to go and I need help. Where is it?
Many thanks,
Joolz[/QUOTE]Hey, this is not a ask and you shall receive forum! All the information you are asking has been asked before, many times. Take the time and read the posts. Have you tried the search feature? In the future RTFF!
But here is a friendly gift, took me only 30 secs to find it using the search feature.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=29080[/url]
Posted a while back saying that #9 at Ocean King was good but wanted to try others.
C'mon guys.
No recommendations?
A ways back I was advised that since I am arriving at HKG too late to catch the last ferry to Macau, I might consider enjoying an all-nighter at a Hong Kong massage salon instead of a hotel. OK, I'm game ... but is there a list? I know that in Macau not all of the saunas are good for all-nighters. What's recommended in Hong Kong, and what's the cost? Tsim Sha Tsui to Mong Kok area preferred.
[QUOTE=Neuromancer]Eh, I highly doubt that "most" local HK women have only fucked one man in their lifetime. Actually, I think that HK women are more promiscuous than American or Western women.
.[/QUOTE]
You really must be joking, right?
sun hot sauna is on prat road in tst. the floor lady told me ownership has changed and fs is no longer offered. i pointed to the pricing on the menu to contradict her and she said "trust me. it is no longer offered." i was there two years ago so policy has definitely changed if it is true.
the facilities are still nice and the therapeutic massage was excellent. they did ask for fairly high tips which is something i do not appreciate.
I have been reviewing the "hotel reservation" talent in 141 for my upcoming trip and I would say that many look great!!! Unless there is a lot of "photoshop" clean-up and what shows up does not look at all like the photo. Well in the next few days I'll find out and report.
[QUOTE=Jayson420]I have had 141 girls delivered to my room. Just negotiate with the papa.
And the rate was the same although I tipped her a little more. I only had LFK and they no-speak-english.
I also have had overnigthers in my hotel with 141. Usually you can look to triple the rate if you want them from around 10ish at night to next morning.
So if there rate is 600 then expect to pay 1800. If its already 2am or so then I think this can be negotiated.[/QUOTE]
I was staying in East TST. I paid 100 HKD above the going rate to have the girl come to the room. It may take two or three calls to find one available. The girl arrives 15 minutes after the phone call. No English. No GFE. However the 141 Hotel Reservation girls are real lookers. It is a great way to spend a quiet evening in your hotel room.
Hi Guys,
Ah well Sun Hot may not be so hot now but Carnival in North Point is. Staying in the area for a few days before heading to Tokyo and went looking for North Point Sauna. Easy to find on the Kings Rd but looked a bit run down to me. Spotted a small sign across the road for Carnival and went to look closer.
Young lady at the door welcomed me and showed me upstairs to a comfortable and tidy facility. Straight thru to the change/shower area and then on to a comfortable lounge. Everything clean and tidy. Papa comes to me asks for my requirements and into the workshop I go. Girl is waiting in a 2 table room, Very attractive mainlander, lots of smiles and a terrific massage. I was not long of the plane after 11hour flight and was more interested in the massage to that point. As the big room window was not covered by the towel I guessed that I might get a tug at best. After she did the usual butterfly dancing on my old bod. She asked if I was there for Body Massage or Full Massage. I said full. She thanked me profusly and dimmed the lights and stripped. Not a girl friend experience but not hurried or impersonal either. Interestingly the window remained uncovered for anyone walking past. A few minutes of whamming and banging mish and doggie and it was all over. Chatted in sign language for a couple of minutes and departed. Damage $1288. Provider slim and IMO attractive. YMMV. Would I return? Tonights the night to support my local knock shop.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]You really must be joking, right?[/QUOTE]No I'm not. Willing to back off the "more promiscuous than American/Western..." comment (just pure speculation, have no idea really), but HK girls are definitely not prudes and I highly doubt they have one sex partner their entire life.
When I make my long awaited trip to HK in September, I intend to scout for a reasonably priced hotel in Tsim Sha Tsui because that is where the largest number of the best looking hotel reservation girls are located. Then they can very conveniently be delivered in a minimum amount of time.
Any body have any suggestions?
I came upon this site recently. I am not much of a monger myself, but it was fun to read other people's reports. It felt right to write my own.
I had a business trip to Hong Kong and I decided to read the reports about Hong Kong. After reading such good comments about the scene in Hong Kong, I decided to give 141 girls a try. For your info, it is my first time in Hong Kong, I do not speak Chinese and once again, I am not experienced in this field at all.
I did my homework before hand. I researched the forum throughly and read a lot of comments etc. If only I had studied that hard in college.
Anyways, I decided to go to champagne court B as it is close to my hotel. The location of champagne court is very easy. In fact it seemed a bit too easy, too central. I am sure most of you would not feel comfortable walking into a "brothel" while many people are walking around on the street. However when I went there I realized champagne court is inside like an alley where there are some shops, so you are not entering it from the street. So nothing to worry about.
As I said I was well prepared. It was 22:00 by the time I went there and I knew that a lot of the girls leave around 22:00. So I noted down all the girls that work till later, their room numbers etc.
I went in, took the stairs instead of the elevator. The stairs are in a pretty bad shape, so is the entire place actually. It aint the hilton, but it gets the job done. I went up two floors, the rooms start after you go up two floors. I went through the first corridor. Lots of rooms, some said busy, some said avaliable. So even after 22:00 you can find quite a lot of girls.
I decided to go up to the 3rd floor to check out Christine, whom someone recommended in this forum. Just as I went up to the third floor, one of the rooms' door was open and a beautiful girl was talking to an ugly looking girl inside. I walked past it, still looking at the room numbers to find christine's room. A couple of seconds after I walked past, the ugly girl left and the beautiful girl got out into the corridor. I looked at her, she was very nice looking. Ok she will do.
She is cecilia on the 141 web site. You can look at the pictures there to see what she looks like. She had a cute face, in fact better than the pictures in the 141 web site. The body is portrayed correctly in the web site. I do not want to rate her, you can see her pcitures in the web site and see for yourself. But I'd say given her accesibility and the price you pay, she is very good. Nice boobs and a nice ass.
I approached her, said Hi. She took me inside right away. Asked her if she spoke english, she said yes. She locked the door and started getting undressed. I asked her how much, she said 500. Ok.
The room is clean looking, much better than the stairs and the corridor. There is a bed with a big mirror next to it and another bed for massage.
She undressed me, even my shoes and socks. I wanted to take off my socks myself, she insisted. She showered me. Not in a sexual way, but a quick shower. Actually there is no shower to talk about, it is a bathroom with a sink and a toilet with beraly enough space for two to stand. But it looks clean and works ok.
Anyways after the shower, the massage started. I am not a massage fan, but this sucked. No skill what so ever. But I am not there to get a massage, so what the heck.
After about 10 minutes, the massage is over (thank god). I am going to skip the details, I need to sleep. She starts licking my balls VERY passionately. Puts on a condom and gives me a good BJ. Than mounts me. After that a bit doggy style and than head over heels, where I reached climax. She cleans me up, goes in the shower and comes back to lie next to me. After a couple of minutes of lying together, she tries to tell me onething, showing "two" with her fingers. I take it she means do you want the 2nd round, I say yes. Even though she said that she speaks english, her english is very limited. In the 141 web site, it says that she does not speak english. That is more accurate. It is not a big problem I guess if you are more experienced at mongering than I am. More on that later.
Anyways, we do it again, more of the same. I change positions as I feel like and she follows suit. The second time is more or less the same as the first.
The most important question, did I like the service? The answer is yes, it was great. The BJ with condom and the way she licked my balls was great, very passionate. Sex was great too. Not mechanical, willing and working hard to please. Its just that the moaning is too much. She doesn't need to shout. I told her to be more quite a couple of times (in an international language as english would not get the massage across). She is moaning while changing the position of the pillow, if you are that into it, who cares about the pillow. She starts moaning the moment I start kissing her tits. That is somewhat of a turnoff. Don't get me wrong, the sex was great. The loud moaning hurt my motivation. Also ugly feet. Not dirty or anything, just ugly. She was clean and smelled good too.
Anyways we finish, she cleans me up again, takes a small shower, comes back in the bed next to me. We lie there for a couple of minutes, than it is time for my shower, which means we are done. But she did not rush me at all.
At the end she gives me a number and tells me to call her again. I checked the 141 web site. It is not the number listed there for cecilia.
When it is time to pay, I give her 500. She makes two with her hands, signaling I need to give her more. I give her another 200. I do not know if the second round was another 200 Hong Kong dollars. (by the way, I did She might have cheated me out of 200. I thought about that there, but I did not care much. I am not going to do this often and where I come from, you can not get a handjob for 700 Hong Kong dollars. What do you guys think, should I have insisted on paying her 500 only? 141 says that her rate is 588 full service.
All in all I would definately recommend cecilia. She did everything to please me. Don't let my comments about the moaning discourage you. Once again, I am not much into mongering. I personally would much prefer to have sex with my girlfriend. I just wanted to try something different, but I guess I felt guilty in the end. Not cecilia's fault. Highly recommended.
Also the 141 experience is highly recommended too. Affordable, accessible (but private) and accurate info on the web site (at least in terms of cecilia, I do not know about the others.
If I ever do this again, I will write a report.
Oh, another thing. Just as I was about to get out, she turned on the security tv so that the corridor is seen totally. I think she did that to see if there was any other guys in the hallway. She was naked, so I guess she did it for my and her privacy. There was also a pc inside the room and another TV.
I didn't realize Carnival/KLW was reopened. Since no one seems to have any suggestions for OK, how about here. Kiwistickman: did you get the girl's #? (You know, the # on the little chart they give you when you sit down? ) Anyone else have recs. 4 there?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Kiwistickman]Hi Guys,
Ah well Sun Hot may not be so hot now but Carnival in North Point is. Staying in the area for a few days before heading to Tokyo and went looking for North Point Sauna. Easy to find on the Kings Rd but looked a bit run down to me. Spotted a small sign across the road for Carnival and went to look closer.
Young lady at the door welcomed me and showed me upstairs to a comfortable and tidy facility. Straight thru to the change/shower area and then on to a comfortable lounge. Everything clean and tidy. Papa comes to me asks for my requirements and into the workshop I go. Girl is waiting in a 2 table room, Very attractive mainlander, lots of smiles and a terrific massage. I was not long of the plane after 11hour flight and was more interested in the massage to that point. As the big room window was not covered by the towel I guessed that I might get a tug at best. After she did the usual butterfly dancing on my old bod. She asked if I was there for Body Massage or Full Massage. I said full. She thanked me profusly and dimmed the lights and stripped. Not a girl friend experience but not hurried or impersonal either. Interestingly the window remained uncovered for anyone walking past. A few minutes of whamming and banging mish and doggie and it was all over. Chatted in sign language for a couple of minutes and departed. Damage $1288. Provider slim and IMO attractive. YMMV. Would I return? Tonights the night to support my local knock shop.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden]
Any body have any suggestions?[/QUOTE]
Ralph
In my very limited experience, the turnover is pretty high and so what might be recommended now won't necessarily be around in Sept. And the adage of YMMV is really on the mark with 141 girls.
Good hunting.
[QUOTE=Viktor Kornelius]I came upon this site recently. I am not much of a monger myself, but it was fun to read other people's reports. It felt right to write my own.
I had a business trip to Hong Kong and I decided to read the reports about Hong Kong. After reading such good comments about the scene in Hong Kong, I decided to give 141 girls a try. For your info, it is my first time in Hong Kong, I do not speak Chinese and once again, I am not experienced in this field at all.
I did my homework before hand. I researched the forum throughly and read a lot of comments etc. If only I had studied that hard in college.
Anyways, I decided to go to champagne court B as it is close to my hotel. The location of champagne court is very easy. In fact it seemed a bit too easy, too central.
When it is time to pay, I give her 500. She makes two with her hands, signaling I need to give her more. I give her another 200. I do not know if the second round was another 200 Hong Kong dollars. (by the way, I did She might have cheated me out of 200. I thought about that there, but I did not care much. I am not going to do this often and where I come from, you can not get a handjob for 700 Hong Kong dollars. What do you guys think, should I have insisted on paying her 500 only? 141 says that her rate is 588 full service.[/QUOTE]I think the $700 was fair - particuarly if you did not negotiate the second shot up front.
Traveler 1234
Thank you for very much for your reply.
But I am sorry for my mistake because I meant does anyone have any hotel suggestions in Tsim Sha Tsui? Please let me know if you do.
Just for enjoyment, I peruse the 141 site top page every night, so when the time comes, you can believe I will have done my homework and have my list of candidates ready.
TOFTT in a big fucking way.
Wanted to see May May, found on sex 161 dot com at Rm 301, 137 Sai Wan Ho Street out on Island East. Turned out she had an all-night appointment. But she did open the door for me, and she was every bit as beautiful as I guessed from the site. Seemed sweet as well. I'll definitely return to see her.
Fortunately, or unfortunately, I had a backup plan: Lily from sex 141 dot com, at Rm 305, Tai On Building just 2 blocks away.
Dingy apartment. I entered and started to undress and saw her in the light. Ugly face. Probably 35 years old. Poor attitude. That's strikes one, two and three right there, and I put my shoes back on to leave. But she told me that her manager watches the video camera outside just like she can, and when he sees a guy come in, he expects to collect money from her and it's going to be a problem if I don't pay. Does anyone know if this is true?
Well fuck that. I seriously considered paying and leaving. But that is against my principles. So we started to shower. I felt her tits--it was a bad enhancement job and they had turned rock hard, like they were the old unsafe style of implant. Strike four. Then I noticed she had a bolt through her clit. Strike five. Stretch marks. Strike six.
It was all I could do to bust a nut and get out of there as quick as I could. Trust me it was an effort. I was trying and even then she was hurrying me. Strike seven.
For the love of all that is decent in the world, do not visit this hag under any circumstances.
Hello fellow mongers,
Me and two of my buddies will be in HK for couple of weeks in April, all of us enjoy ladies but none of us has any experience with HK yet (and we do speak English and German only, sorry). I've been reading the recent posts here, but would appreciate any advice still.
First of all: is mongering legal in HK?
I understood that 700-800 HK$ is a going rate, but is it for an hour or a shot? Also, I understood that sex 141 com is a good site to order girls to hotel. We'll stay in "south pacific hotel". Is this a girl friendly hotel?
I heard that Macau is something like Las Vegas of Asia and is just 100 HK$ away from HK. Would you say Macau is a better place for mongering?
I would appreciate any advise on ladies/places/websites where I can buy good BBBJ from an English-speaking lady and where she would charge rather by hours than by shots (I usually stay 2-3 hrs and keep girls mouth busy for the most of that time, but shooting frequency differs with the time, so that shot-pricing will get the girl aggravated.)
Also if anyone knows an beautiful provider who does CIM and anal. I'd appreciate a contact.
I also read that you guys have not only Asian but also Eastern European talent in HK. I'd like to meet/book/visit/monger some Russian and/or Ukrainian girls. Would anyone know a place?
I'd appreaciate any advice on any of those points.
Thanks and have a good hunt!
[QUOTE=Stakan]Hello fellow mongers,
Me and two of my buddies will be in HK for couple of weeks in April, all of us enjoy ladies but none of us has any experience with HK yet (and we do speak English and German only, sorry). I've been reading the recent posts here, but would appreciate any advice still.
First of all: is mongering legal in HK?
I understood that 700-800 HK$ is a going rate, but is it for an hour or a shot? Also, I understood that sex 141 com is a good site to order girls to hotel. We'll stay in "south pacific hotel". Is this a girl friendly hotel?
I heard that Macau is something like Las Vegas of Asia and is just 100 HK$ away from HK. Would you say Macau is a better place for mongering?
I would appreciate any advise on ladies/places/websites where I can buy good BBBJ from an English-speaking lady and where she would charge rather by hours than by shots (I usually stay 2-3 hrs and keep girls mouth busy for the most of that time, but shooting frequency differs with the time, so that shot-pricing will get the girl aggravated.)
Also if anyone knows an beautiful provider who does CIM and anal. I'd appreciate a contact.
I also read that you guys have not only Asian but also Eastern European talent in HK. I'd like to meet/book/visit/monger some Russian and/or Ukrainian girls. Would anyone know a place?
I'd appreaciate any advice on any of those points.
Thanks and have a good hunt![/QUOTE]Prostitution is legal in HK, so enjoy! As for E. European talent, I've seen them in HK's red light district of Wanchai. I've definitely seen some in the Neptune Disco. As for price, Wanchai freelancers generally charge at least $1, 000 HKD. As for your other questions, I'll default to our more experienced members.
This is my first time in Hong Kong and will be trying all the pooning methods on here. It's hard to make a report when I haven't tried anything yet but when I get back, definitely I'll put something. Does anyone want to meet up in the Tsim Sha Tsui area to maybe share a KTV on March 12. Just I think it won't be as fun to go solo. PM if you feel like hanging out for a bit.
I have now been to Hong Kong at least six different times and stayed at both Shangri-Las (currently at the Island Shangri-La) and at the Four Seasons. During each of my stays, I have brought girls from the Wan Chai scene back to my hotel. I have never had any problems.
However, I've seen some people get detained. Here is a list of common sense approaches to avoid trouble while bringing in a girl to your 5-star hotel, especially during busy hours or when there are several people at the door and in the lobby.
1. Make sure she is not dressed like a tramp.
I specifically look for girls who are wearing jeans or pants and who have a coat to cover their tight and/or revealing shirts. If she does not pass muster in the appropriately dressed department, I do not pick her.
2. Make sure you are not dressed like a tramp. (Corollary: Make sure you are not overdressed--dress as normally as possible.)
If you are dressed like a total slob and she is dressed like a tramp, you are going to draw attention and make other hotel guests uncomfortable. Your chances of getting detained will jump an order of magnitude. And if you are way overdressed (e. G. Suit and tie) and she is dressed way down, even if not quite like a tramp, you're probably going to stick out as well. The key is to try to not stick out, which brings me to tip #3.
3. Don't make a scene!
I saw a guy getting dropped off at the Conrad the other day who was in a suit, obviously drunk off his ass, and bringing a girl who must've been all of 25 while he was at least 45. SINGING on the way in from the cab. I kid you not, the fat focker was singing and whistling on his way in. You can guess what happened next. Jesus, some people. Just try to make your way in as quietly and quickly as possible (but not too quickly so as to make a scene).
4. Time of day matters
If you bring someone in during a fairly busy period, say before 10 PM, and there are all types of people coming in and out of the hotel, it seems to me that security is less tight than during 10 PM. 3 AM or so. Or at least it doesn't seem as awkward to bring someone in and the guards don't seem to stare at you. Also, any time after 2 or 3 AM, there's usually just one guy (sometimes two) at the door, and he usually doesn't care at all since there is nobody else coming in and out of the hotel.
5. Take alternative, less crowded entryways if available
At the Island Shang, the lobby is on the 7th floor. Floors 1-6 are a combination of stores, restaurants, meeting rooms, etc. Foor 1 takes you to the lobby of the Pacific Place complex, where there are no guards. I'm not sure if this entryway is open 24 hours or not, but it is definitely open at 10 PM.
6. Consider the quick tip
This may be totally unnecessary, but if you are extra nervous for some reason (yes, it CAN be uncomfortable bringing in a different girl every night and being greeted by the same people who obviously know WTF is going on.), have a tip handy so that when the cab door is opened, you greet the guy at the front door with a tip. It is common to tip at 5-star hotels, so it's not as if you'll be making a scene or doing something out of place, and it does make a potentially uncomfortable moment a little less uncomfortable. Just make your way in quickly one way or the other.
7. Get dropped off before the main lobby
Cabs will drive you right to the main entryway of a hotel, and in five-star hotels, the mere act of getting out of a cab is a scene. There is usually a line of people waiting for cabs (especially on weekends) until around midnight or so and even if there are no people, the guards or bellboys are instructed to assist you every possible step of the way to the elevator. While it's nice to be serviced like that, it's also a pain in the ass when all you want to do is get to your room ASAP. One way to avoid the greeting as your cab door is opened followed by the escorting into the hotel is to get dropped off a block from the lobby. Then, you can casually stroll in with your companion and walk in without the scene of getting out of a cab. This is especially handy when there is a line of people and your girl is obviously not your girlfriend or wife.
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Great post! Do note though that the lobby of the Island Shang is on the 6th floor, with the 7th floor being full of restaurants. The bubble lifts closest to Pacific Place 2, near Starbucks access the stores in Pacific Place. The same lift goes to the 5th floor where when you turn left, you can access The Conrad where the lobby is a couple of floors higher. Or by turning right, you access Island Shang where the lobby is one floor higher.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Doberpit]5. Take alternative, less crowded entryways if available
At the Island Shang, the lobby is on the 7th floor. Floors 1-6 are a combination of stores, restaurants, meeting rooms, etc. Foor 1 takes you to the lobby of the Pacific Place complex, where there are no guards. I'm not sure if this entryway is open 24 hours or not, but it is definitely open at 10 PM.
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[QUOTE=AOLclient]This is my first time in Hong Kong and will be trying all the pooning methods on here. It's hard to make a report when I haven't tried anything yet but when I get back, definitely I'll put something. Does anyone want to meet up in the Tsim Sha Tsui area to maybe share a KTV on March 12. Just I think it won't be as fun to go solo. PM if you feel like hanging out for a bit.[/QUOTE]I don't have PM as a regular member, and, unless I'm mistaken, neither do you. However, I'd be down for meeting up and hitting a KTV on the 12th. I'm in HK for a while.
[quote=big boss man]sun hot sauna is on prat road in tst. the floor lady told me ownership has changed and fs is no longer offered. i pointed to the pricing on the menu to contradict her and she said "trust me. it is no longer offered." i was there two years ago so policy has definitely changed if it is true.
the facilities are still nice and the therapeutic massage was excellent. they did ask for fairly high tips which is something i do not appreciate.[/quote]thanks for the post about sun hot sauna. i was about to go there later this month.....now i won't. am going towards noble again, but does anyone want to pass recommendations on the best hk sauna to go to, i mean really, hot naked girl, good price, good massage, really good hj?
i don't want to end up at jordan sauna again. although cheap and nasty, jordan sauna is just that.....i think i deserve a level higher this time.
where's the damn front door of tst sauna?
gyaos.
Awhile back I asked for recommendations about a late (midnight) arrival and was urged to consider an all-nighter at a sauna for my one night in HK rather than a hotel. Great idea, but does anybody have any recommendations? I don't want to arrive at midnight and THEN start looking for a place.
And what would this cost?
[QUOTE=Doberpit]I have now been to Hong Kong at least six different times and stayed at both Shangri-Las (currently at the Island Shangri-La) and at the Four Seasons. During each of my stays, I have brought girls from the Wan Chai scene back to my hotel. I have never had any problems.
However, I've seen some people get detained. Here is a list of common sense approaches to avoid trouble while bringing in a girl to your 5-star hotel, especially during busy hours or when there are several people at the door and in the lobby.
1. Make sure she is not dressed like a tramp.
I specifically look for girls who are wearing jeans or pants and who have a coat to cover their tight and/or revealing shirts. If she does not pass muster in the appropriately dressed department, I do not pick her.
2. Make sure you are not dressed like a tramp. (Corollary: Make sure you are not overdressed--dress as normally as possible.)
If you are dressed like a total slob and she is dressed like a tramp, you are going to draw attention and make other hotel guests uncomfortable. Your chances of getting detained will jump an order of magnitude. And if you are way overdressed (e. G. Suit and tie) and she is dressed way down, even if not quite like a tramp, you're probably going to stick out as well. The key is to try to not stick out, which brings me to tip #3.
3. Don't make a scene!
I saw a guy getting dropped off at the Conrad the other day who was in a suit, obviously drunk off his ass, and bringing a girl who must've been all of 25 while he was at least 45. SINGING on the way in from the cab. I kid you not, the fat focker was singing and whistling on his way in. You can guess what happened next. Jesus, some people. Just try to make your way in as quietly and quickly as possible (but not too quickly so as to make a scene).
4. Time of day matters
If you bring someone in during a fairly busy period, say before 10 PM, and there are all types of people coming in and out of the hotel, it seems to me that security is less tight than during 10 PM. 3 AM or so. Or at least it doesn't seem as awkward to bring someone in and the guards don't seem to stare at you. Also, any time after 2 or 3 AM, there's usually just one guy (sometimes two) at the door, and he usually doesn't care at all since there is nobody else coming in and out of the hotel.
5. Take alternative, less crowded entryways if available
At the Island Shang, the lobby is on the 7th floor. Floors 1-6 are a combination of stores, restaurants, meeting rooms, etc. Foor 1 takes you to the lobby of the Pacific Place complex, where there are no guards. I'm not sure if this entryway is open 24 hours or not, but it is definitely open at 10 PM.
6. Consider the quick tip
This may be totally unnecessary, but if you are extra nervous for some reason (yes, it CAN be uncomfortable bringing in a different girl every night and being greeted by the same people who obviously know WTF is going on.), have a tip handy so that when the cab door is opened, you greet the guy at the front door with a tip. It is common to tip at 5-star hotels, so it's not as if you'll be making a scene or doing something out of place, and it does make a potentially uncomfortable moment a little less uncomfortable. Just make your way in quickly one way or the other.
7. Get dropped off before the main lobby
Cabs will drive you right to the main entryway of a hotel, and in five-star hotels, the mere act of getting out of a cab is a scene. There is usually a line of people waiting for cabs (especially on weekends) until around midnight or so and even if there are no people, the guards or bellboys are instructed to assist you every possible step of the way to the elevator. While it's nice to be serviced like that, it's also a pain in the ass when all you want to do is get to your room ASAP. One way to avoid the greeting as your cab door is opened followed by the escorting into the hotel is to get dropped off a block from the lobby. Then, you can casually stroll in with your companion and walk in without the scene of getting out of a cab. This is especially handy when there is a line of people and your girl is obviously not your girlfriend or wife.
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Wow, way too much effort, IMO. I have never, I mean never, been refused entry into a top hotel when toting a girl. It did not matter how drunk I was and how slutty the girl was dressed. Normally, the better the hotel, the more GF it is. Having said that, things that would get you arrested or thrown out on your own would also apply when arriving with a girl of the evening. Short of that, I have never had a problem in over 20 years of bringing back the sluttiest chicks I could find in any top HK hotel.
If you want to avoid the walk of shame, your post is great. For purposes of getting home with the prize, it is a bit much.
[QUOTE=Etaoin2003]Awhile back I asked for recommendations about a late (midnight) arrival and was urged to consider an all-nighter at a sauna for my one night in HK rather than a hotel. Great idea, but does anybody have any recommendations? I don't want to arrive at midnight and THEN start looking for a place.
And what would this cost?[/QUOTE]Etaoin,
Hong kong is high rent district most sauna don't have over night sleeping place like Macau is there is only a couch is avalible and most sauna in HK don't open 24 hrs ,I recommend you book a hotel room before you arrive unless you want to stay in a dump motel even that will cost over 400 hkd a night .
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Tiger 888]Koizumi Flushpump at hist best: Hey idiot, how stupid do you think we are.[/QUOTE]
Hey Tiger - this flushpump is really something else ain't he?
But - whoa dere- there is some mystifying things here; look at the Hong Kong pictures section. Remember you and I called this flushpump out over his 2 pictures entitled A fish called Wanda? Well ALL references to you and I calling him out - and him making his lame replies - have all DISAPPEARED! Only the 2 pictures and his post remains.
Strange, very strange indeed
SE asia Joe
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Hey Tiger - this flushpump is really something else ain't he?
But - whoa dere- there is some mystifying things here; look at the Hong Kong pictures section. Remember you and I called this flushpump out over his 2 pictures entitled A fish called Wanda? Well ALL references to you and I calling him out - and him making his lame replies - have all DISAPPEARED! Only the 2 pictures and his post remains.
Strange, very strange indeed
SE asia Joe[/QUOTE]The name of this miracle is Jackson. Have you noticed too that flushy is pumping as a reagular member again no longer senior? I wonder anyhow how he got that.
Well its disappointing to see there are no mongers here who can pick up a girl with out having to pay her for sex. Looks like I am alone here ;)
[QUOTE=Jiggy]Well its disappointing to see there are no mongers here who can pick up a girl with out having to pay her for sex. Looks like I am alone here ;)[/QUOTE]
Jiggy, with all due respect, this is a mongering board and site, not a singles, freebie site. Mongering, by definition, is the pursuit of p4p. If you want a singles site, find one and post there.
Regarding your dismissive attitude toward mongering, it is, quite obviously, a different pursuit that you do not understand. Rather than being arrogantly condescending, you might seek to understand first. Ignoring your obvious negativity, I will do you a favor and enlighten you just a bit...One mongers rather than pursue "freebies" because...
1. It is time efficient. Not all people have the time to invest in the pursuit of freebies for one night of action.
2. It is cost efficient. Freebies always consume more money, one way or antoher.
3. They leave when we want them to leave. An old monger saying is that "I don't pay them to come to my room, I pay them to leave"
4. It is emotionally efficient. Not everyone is looking for the emotional interplay of freebies.
5. Working girls are good at sex, period. Freebies are hit and miss, and often miss, in that regard. If I am in HK two nights, I want good sex.
6. In many places in Asia, the line between a freebie and a working girl is a grey area, unlike the west. There are many part time p4p girls, office girls out for action that look for money in one way shape or form, and girls that date foreigners for the potential of money. If you are looking to hit up a "good girl" who the vast majority of Chinese girls are, you are going to have a major time and financial investment on your hands.
I have met many people from these boards, and many of them are rich enough and good looking enough to capture more than their fair share of freebies, and do. Their mongering activities are a separate issue. And, mongering is what this board is about. Because we talk mongering here, does not mean we do not do what every blue blooded man does in our pursuit of freebie action. The two activities are not mutually exclusive.
Again, this is a mongering board, not a singles site.
I'm in-town for two weeks.
There is moderate streetwalker activity in Jordan after midnight near the intersections of Shanghai/Saigon/Wooshiung/Portland. Unlike previous years, the quality this time is pretty good. $200 HKD -- the cheapest lay in Hong Kong.
IMO, Jordan is now the mecca of mongering in Hong Kong. Cheap, good quality and almost infinite quantity. You have streetwalkers, the myraid of 141s and saunas/karaoke, and establishments like K-accupressure. The brothals of Mongkok are within walking distance.
For the adventurous tourists, I suggest you stay at one of millions of Jordan guesthouses. They only cost around $250 HKD. Not only is it cheap, you're in the epicenter of mongering. Just go near the corner of Jordan Rd and Nathan Rd. They're everywhere. No reservations needed. Just show up and bring cash. Best time is around 2:00pm when guests have just checked out. Some of the places may not speak decent English though. The room itself isn't all that nice (especially the bathroom) -- but you don't come to Hong Kong to stay in your room. I would rent for one night first. And if you like it, the owner will gladly extend your stay.
You forgot one other important factor: Variety.
I don't care how anyone's game is, it is almost impossible to sample different flavors on a regular basis, which is a nice feature of this hobby. Tall, medium, short, thick, thin, brown, yellow, white, young, experienced, etc. Selection is a big factor for me.
[QUOTE=Softy]Jiggy, with all due respect, this is a mongering board and site, not a singles, freebie site. Mongering, by definition, is the pursuit of p4p. If you want a singles site, find one and post there.
Regarding your dismissive attitude toward mongering, it is, quite obviously, a different pursuit that you do not understand. Rather than being arrogantly condescending, you might seek to understand first. Ignoring your obvious negativity, I will do you a favor and enlighten you just a bit...One mongers rather than pursue "freebies" because...
1. It is time efficient. Not all people have the time to invest in the pursuit of freebies for one night of action.
2. It is cost efficient. Freebies always consume more money, one way or antoher.
3. They leave when we want them to leave. An old monger saying is that "I don't pay them to come to my room, I pay them to leave"
4. It is emotionally efficient. Not everyone is looking for the emotional interplay of freebies.
5. Working girls are good at sex, period. Freebies are hit and miss, and often miss, in that regard. If I am in HK two nights, I want good sex.
6. In many places in Asia, the line between a freebie and a working girl is a grey area, unlike the west. There are many part time p4p girls, office girls out for action that look for money in one way shape or form, and girls that date foreigners for the potential of money. If you are looking to hit up a "good girl" who the vast majority of Chinese girls are, you are going to have a major time and financial investment on your hands.
I have met many people from these boards, and many of them are rich enough and good looking enough to capture more than their fair share of freebies, and do. Their mongering activities are a separate issue. And, mongering is what this board is about. Because we talk mongering here, does not mean we do not do what every blue blooded man does in our pursuit of freebie action. The two activities are not mutually exclusive.
Again, this is a mongering board, not a singles site.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jiggy]Well its disappointing to see there are no mongers here who can pick up a girl with out having to pay her for sex. Looks like I am alone here ;)[/QUOTE]
Softy is right. No such thing as freebies. Read the Morality board.
A 'true' freebie per se, says more about the girl than about the boy.
I p4p because -
Quality. Like a major newspaper versus a free circulation paper. More content, useful, to the point.
Honesty. Fair trade.
Quantity (variety). How many freebies have you had, ever?
Equality. How else could someone with a hideous facial scar or a bum leg get into a high maintenance silky supermodel's chocolate factory? Woo her in a bar? Social skills? Oh I know, talk to her like a gentlemen, people say it works. Not everyone has your witty prince charms boy.
We're not wankers, we just don't like 90% of the 'true' freebies out there. We prefer paying, make a honest women out of them.
How's that?
Join us after you're tired of ...... whatever.
HT
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Etaoin,
Hong kong is high rent district most sauna don't have over night sleeping place like Macau is there is only a couch is avalible and most sauna in HK don't open 24 hrs ,I recommend you book a hotel room before you arrive unless you want to stay in a dump motel even that will cost over 400 hkd a night .
Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]
Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know. I'll plan to stay in a dump hotel. :-) Maybe in Chung King Mansions, just for the experience, or ...
[QUOTE=FurryFriend]
There is moderate streetwalker activity in Jordan after midnight near the intersections of Shanghai/Saigon/Wooshiung/Portland. Unlike previous years, the quality this time is pretty good. $200 HKD -- the cheapest lay in Hong Kong.
IMO, Jordan is now the mecca of mongering in Hong Kong. Cheap, good quality and almost infinite quantity. You have streetwalkers, the myraid of 141s and saunas/karaoke, and establishments like K-accupressure. The brothals of Mongkok are within walking distance.
For the adventurous tourists, I suggest you stay at one of millions of Jordan guesthouses. They only cost around $250 HKD. Not only is it cheap, you're in the epicenter of mongering. Just go near the corner of Jordan Rd and Nathan Rd. They're everywhere. No reservations needed. Just show up and bring cash. Best time is around 2:00pm when guests have just checked out. Some of the places may not speak decent English though. The room itself isn't all that nice (especially the bathroom) -- but you don't come to Hong Kong to stay in your room. I would rent for one night first. And if you like it, the owner will gladly extend your stay.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like an adventure! How bad can it be? Has to be better than an airplane seat.
[QUOTE=Etaoin2003]Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know. I'll plan to stay in a dump hotel. :-) Maybe in Chung King Mansions, just for the experience, or ...
Sounds like an adventure! How bad can it be? Has to be better than an airplane seat.[/QUOTE]Etaoin 2003,
You must be mad. Don't go to Chung King Mansion. A very danger place to stay. You 're better off go to Jordan. Many motel there. If you arrive after midnight you can get a discount.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Etaoin2003]Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know. I'll plan to stay in a dump hotel. :-) Maybe in Chung King Mansions, just for the experience, or ...
Sounds like an adventure! How bad can it be? Has to be better than an airplane seat.[/QUOTE]Chungking has places that are not that bad once you are in. The queues at the lifts in Block A and B suck. And the staircases are pretty filthy. You can get a room with attached shower from 160 HK$ in D or E block.
I used to stay there 18 years ago when I first arrived in HK. But at that time the building was a fire trap (The biggest danger there though). They had to install sprinklers.
Occsionally there are police raids for overstayers when they lock up the whole building at 4am and go through all the guest houses.
Mirador (the building on Mody Rd. opposite the holiday inn) is a bit less crowded.
Hi,
I'm new to the site, a long time reader.
I be going in HK from 27 till 29 March looking for people to KTV with in HK or macau, never been to KTV before but been reading the report and it seem its best to go with few people.
I don't mind KTV in Macau or HK just want to try it out.
If any one want to just post a message on the site as I don't have PM.
If no one is up for it can anyone give me info of a gd KTV I can go alone. Looking to spend about $1000HK max to enjoy myself for a few hr. In HK or Macau, looking for a KTV where the girls go wild.
Chinese/Australian 26yr old (speak cantonese). Hope to hear from some you guyz.
I am looking for a high end place, like a 4 or 5 star hotel spa. Where I can have a drink do the whole jacuzzi steam room thing, enjoy a nice massage and finish with a happy ending. I am not necessarily looking for FS but a BJ or HJ at least is essential. I am willing to pay the price for this service but I also do not want to do to your regular place and pay too much there. Does such a place exist? If so can someone please give me details.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Tiger 888]Chungking has places that are not that bad once you are in. The queues at the lifts in Block A and B suck. And the staircases are pretty filthy. You can get a room with attached shower from 160 HK$ in D or E block.
I used to stay there 18 years ago when I first arrived in HK. But at that time the building was a fire trap (The biggest danger there though). They had to install sprinklers.
Occsionally there are police raids for overstayers when they lock up the whole building at 4am and go through all the guest houses.
Mirador (the building on Mody Rd. opposite the holiday inn) is a bit less crowded.[/QUOTE]
I stayed at a Chungking room three years ago for $180/night. It isn't as bad as people make it out to be. The wait for the elevators is harrowing though. That alone makes me avoid the place. Besides, there are better (and less crowded) guesthouses in Jordan. In Jordan, it's about $20-$50 more but well worth it.
Well, I'm persuaded. I'll go for the luxury of a Jordan flophouse. :-)
Hey DK,
My local friends and I (ABC, no language skills) go to KTV once in awhile in HK. Send or post a message when you're in town and I'll see if the boys are up to it. We go to a mid-range place in Mongkok or another place in Jordan. HKD1,000 for three hours of beer and sitting time. Add another HKD500 for fs. We just got back from Bangkok (going again in April) and will probably go to Chang An in the next few weeks. Hong Kong is just expensive (and the selection of gals not as great) when compared with other places. We went to a Chang An KTV a few weeks ago, and the gals' prices were pretty standard 2/4/8 with five hours of beer and food being an additional RMB500.
Cheers,
BD
[QUOTE=DriftKing]Hi,
I'm new to the site, a long time reader.
I be going in HK from 27 till 29 March looking for people to KTV with in HK or macau, never been to KTV before but been reading the report and it seem its best to go with few people.
I don't mind KTV in Macau or HK just want to try it out.
If any one want to just post a message on the site as I don't have PM.
If no one is up for it can anyone give me info of a gd KTV I can go alone. Looking to spend about $1000HK max to enjoy myself for a few hr. In HK or Macau, looking for a KTV where the girls go wild.
Chinese/Australian 26yr old (speak cantonese). Hope to hear from some you guyz.[/QUOTE]
I am going to be in HK too 2nd week of April.
I am wondering if you guys have any recomendation of good/non scam night clubs....
like the one Rick Hunter and Le Licheur post.
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=683036&postcount=1348[/url]
I need a girl with GFE attitude to accompany me sightseeing HK or maybe Macau
Thank you in advance.
Long time lurker, first time poster here. I will add report later.
[QUOTE=Brain Damaged]Hey DK,
My local friends and I (ABC, no language skills) go to KTV once in awhile in HK. Send or post a message when you're in town and I'll see if the boys are up to it. We go to a mid-range place in Mongkok or another place in Jordan. HKD1,000 for three hours of beer and sitting time. Add another HKD500 for fs. We just got back from Bangkok (going again in April) and will probably go to Chang An in the next few weeks. Hong Kong is just expensive (and the selection of gals not as great) when compared with other places. We went to a Chang An KTV a few weeks ago, and the gals' prices were pretty standard 2/4/8 with five hours of beer and food being an additional RMB500.
Cheers,
BD[/QUOTE]Hey thanks for the update. I will be in HK 27 till 29 March hoping to catch up for KTV then after that I'm giong to KL for 3 days then off to Thailand. If you are going to be in Thailand. We can KTV again haha.
Just pay for my subscription last nite. So I should able to get PM access soon. So PM me.
Ok anybody have any credible rumors on Pierre Ingrassia's death in Villa Vittoria this Sunday?
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]Ok anybody have any credible rumors on Pierre Ingrassia's death in Villa Vittoria this Sunday?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.scmp.com/portal/site/SCMP/menuitem.2c913216495213d5df646910cba0a0a0/?vgnextoid=2c4f5bf731e98110VgnVCM100000360a0a0aRCRD&vgnextfmt=teaser&ss=Hong+Kong&s=News[/url]
[QUOTE=Tiger 888][url]http://www.scmp.com/portal/site/SCMP/menuitem.2c913216495213d5df646910cba0a0a0/?vgnextoid=2c4f5bf731e98110VgnVCM100000360a0a0aRCRD&vgnextfmt=teaser&ss=Hong+Kong&s=News[/url][/QUOTE]
Yes, that is the story. I want to know about rumors. Was he drugged by a hooker? Was it Viagra heart attack?
[QUOTE=Brain Damaged]... and will probably go to Chang An in the next few weeks... [/QUOTE]
Chang'an as in Xian or are you talking about Chang An hotel in Dongguan? In either case, what is about Chang'an/Chang AN that makes it an interesting destination for a monger?
Thanks,
APAC Man
In Champagne B on level 3, $HK588 is the rate for full service with massage, $HK500 is for ML (make love) one shot. Over that, there is a time component, normally more if you stay more than an hour and perhaps more for second shot. Quoted take out rate to your hotel (LT) starts at $HK2500-3000. I don't think she cheated you.
[QUOTE=Viktor Kornelius]I came upon this site recently. I am not much of a monger myself, but it was fun to read other people's reports. It felt right to write my own.
I had a business trip to Hong Kong and I decided to read the reports about Hong Kong. After reading such good comments about the scene in Hong Kong, I decided to give 141 girls a try. For your info, it is my first time in Hong Kong, I do not speak Chinese and once again, I am not experienced in this field at all.
I did my homework before hand. I researched the forum throughly and read a lot of comments etc. If only I had studied that hard in college.
Anyways, I decided to go to champagne court B as it is close to my hotel. The location of champagne court is very easy. In fact it seemed a bit too easy, too central. I am sure most of you would not feel comfortable walking into a "brothel" while many people are walking around on the street. However when I went there I realized champagne court is inside like an alley where there are some shops, so you are not entering it from the street. So nothing to worry about.
As I said I was well prepared. It was 22:00 by the time I went there and I knew that a lot of the girls leave around 22:00. So I noted down all the girls that work till later, their room numbers etc.
I went in, took the stairs instead of the elevator. The stairs are in a pretty bad shape, so is the entire place actually. It aint the hilton, but it gets the job done. I went up two floors, the rooms start after you go up two floors. I went through the first corridor. Lots of rooms, some said busy, some said avaliable. So even after 22:00 you can find quite a lot of girls.
I decided to go up to the 3rd floor to check out Christine, whom someone recommended in this forum. Just as I went up to the third floor, one of the rooms' door was open and a beautiful girl was talking to an ugly looking girl inside. I walked past it, still looking at the room numbers to find christine's room. A couple of seconds after I walked past, the ugly girl left and the beautiful girl got out into the corridor. I looked at her, she was very nice looking. Ok she will do.
She is cecilia on the 141 web site. You can look at the pictures there to see what she looks like. She had a cute face, in fact better than the pictures in the 141 web site. The body is portrayed correctly in the web site. I do not want to rate her, you can see her pcitures in the web site and see for yourself. But I'd say given her accesibility and the price you pay, she is very good. Nice boobs and a nice ass.
I approached her, said Hi. She took me inside right away. Asked her if she spoke english, she said yes. She locked the door and started getting undressed. I asked her how much, she said 500. Ok.
The room is clean looking, much better than the stairs and the corridor. There is a bed with a big mirror next to it and another bed for massage.
She undressed me, even my shoes and socks. I wanted to take off my socks myself, she insisted. She showered me. Not in a sexual way, but a quick shower. Actually there is no shower to talk about, it is a bathroom with a sink and a toilet with beraly enough space for two to stand. But it looks clean and works ok.
Anyways after the shower, the massage started. I am not a massage fan, but this sucked. No skill what so ever. But I am not there to get a massage, so what the heck.
After about 10 minutes, the massage is over (thank god). I am going to skip the details, I need to sleep. She starts licking my balls VERY passionately. Puts on a condom and gives me a good BJ. Than mounts me. After that a bit doggy style and than head over heels, where I reached climax. She cleans me up, goes in the shower and comes back to lie next to me. After a couple of minutes of lying together, she tries to tell me onething, showing "two" with her fingers. I take it she means do you want the 2nd round, I say yes. Even though she said that she speaks english, her english is very limited. In the 141 web site, it says that she does not speak english. That is more accurate. It is not a big problem I guess if you are more experienced at mongering than I am. More on that later.
Anyways, we do it again, more of the same. I change positions as I feel like and she follows suit. The second time is more or less the same as the first.
The most important question, did I like the service? The answer is yes, it was great. The BJ with condom and the way she licked my balls was great, very passionate. Sex was great too. Not mechanical, willing and working hard to please. Its just that the moaning is too much. She doesn't need to shout. I told her to be more quite a couple of times (in an international language as english would not get the massage across). She is moaning while changing the position of the pillow, if you are that into it, who cares about the pillow. She starts moaning the moment I start kissing her tits. That is somewhat of a turnoff. Don't get me wrong, the sex was great. The loud moaning hurt my motivation. Also ugly feet. Not dirty or anything, just ugly. She was clean and smelled good too.
Anyways we finish, she cleans me up again, takes a small shower, comes back in the bed next to me. We lie there for a couple of minutes, than it is time for my shower, which means we are done. But she did not rush me at all.
At the end she gives me a number and tells me to call her again. I checked the 141 web site. It is not the number listed there for cecilia.
When it is time to pay, I give her 500. She makes two with her hands, signaling I need to give her more. I give her another 200. I do not know if the second round was another 200 Hong Kong dollars. (by the way, I did She might have cheated me out of 200. I thought about that there, but I did not care much. I am not going to do this often and where I come from, you can not get a handjob for 700 Hong Kong dollars. What do you guys think, should I have insisted on paying her 500 only? 141 says that her rate is 588 full service.
All in all I would definately recommend cecilia. She did everything to please me. Don't let my comments about the moaning discourage you. Once again, I am not much into mongering. I personally would much prefer to have sex with my girlfriend. I just wanted to try something different, but I guess I felt guilty in the end. Not cecilia's fault. Highly recommended.
Also the 141 experience is highly recommended too. Affordable, accessible (but private) and accurate info on the web site (at least in terms of cecilia, I do not know about the others.
If I ever do this again, I will write a report.
Oh, another thing. Just as I was about to get out, she turned on the security tv so that the corridor is seen totally. I think she did that to see if there was any other guys in the hallway. She was naked, so I guess she did it for my and her privacy. There was also a pc inside the room and another TV.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Apac Man]Chang'an as in Xian or are you talking about Chang An hotel in Dongguan? In either case, what is about Chang'an/Chang AN that makes it an interesting destination for a monger?
Thanks,
APAC Man[/QUOTE]
Hey AM,
That would be Chang An in Dongguan. Dongguan itself is an attraction (see the Dongguan thread under China)! Depending on work schedules and such, we hop the bus from Wan Chai to Huang Gang (Lok Ma Chau) border crossing, where we pick up a pre-arranged van to take us to Chang An. My buddies don't like Chang Ping, so we end up in Chang An. No real special reason. Good selection of gals (the last KTV we went to had about 200+ gals at the prime selection time of 1830), reasonable prices (2/4/8 for the gal and cheap food/beer), and a reasonably comfortable hotel room for RMB250. The gals get naked in the KTV room and are good for buffet sex all night. My buddies are a bit paranoid and err on the side of personal safety; they work in on-site construction so they are not shrinking violets by any means, being able to hold their own in any situation...they are just cautious.
Cheers,
BD
Would like to have some feedback.
On 141 are the girls really Japanese when they are advertised as such? What about for the other nationalities?
Haven't seen any Malaysians and they are the one feeding Singapore, it's quite disturbing to see Singaporeans on the site.
Thanks for clarifying.
Decided to try again for May May on Sai Wan Ho St as per my earlier post. I'm glad I tried again. For a 141 girl she was quite a GFE. Enthusiastic about DATY (she moved into the 69 position, she BBBJ me without much coaxing, loved the sex, asked me to return, gave me her mobile number. :) :)
Go for it guys.
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket
I visited Hong Kong for the first time in nearly 4 months on a visa run. Some things have changed but most remains the same.
1. China visas are a little more difficult to obtain than before. It was possible to get 12month visas 18 months ago, then it was a maximum of 6months. Now since January 1, China will issue only 3 month multi entry visas maximum. Every time they change the rules the price increase or nearly doubles! My 3m visa cost 550HKD for a Canadian passport. (Same day service with pickup and delivery).
2. At 8pm (Wednesday night) I visited Laguna. Place was busy mostly Philipinas. A few beers later I met this tiny 21yo who called herself Rita. She was with her friend. I joined them at their table. They declared to be in HK only a few days and spend most of their time at Galaxy - which I had never heard of. After a while dancing and talking they complained about the smoky air in laguna and asked me to visit Galaxy with them.
We arrived at Galaxy about 9:50 and sat at a table together. There were about 10+ other Filipinas there and no other customer. The card on the table listed draft beer for 18HKD before 10PM and 36 afterwards. Galaxy is the former Strawberry which I visited one time and would not return.
I ordered a beer and 2 tequilas for my friends. The waitress came back with a bill for 304HKD which I balked at. I told her to take back the tequilas and that this was rediculous (actually said more than that). She took the drinks back and consulted with her manager. Fortunately nothing more came of this. I apologized to my 'friends', drank half my beer, dropped 20HKD on the table and left the premises quickly.
Do not go to Galaxy - it is a rip off.
3. Moved on to Fenwicks. A few more beers, met another Filipina. She takes me to Neptunes. I purchase her a drink, we discuss further business. She asks for 1000+HKD overnight, I offer 600, finally she accepts. We walk out, she takes me to Ming Court and before the door I decide to bail out. Not worth the trouble considering the bargaining that happened before. The outdoor light also reflects poorly on her - bad choice.
4. Back again to Fenwicks. Another beer, more walking. Eventually meet some girls that look 'different' yet familiar. Turns out to be a group from Vietnam. First time I meet VN girls in Hong Kong as it is difficult to get visa for VN people for Hong Kong. I like VN girls, my preference when in Singapore.
She asks for 1500 LT. I offer 800LT. She says 800 ST, 1000LT. Eventually she accepts 800 LT, we settle at the Ming Court (230HKD after midnight for overnight). It was a nice time but nothing amazing. We left the hotel around 9AM.
I was upset at the Ming Court however. About 2 hours after we arrived, perhaps around 3AM the front desk called to tell me my time was up (our 2 hours had finished). This was actually kind of rude to wake us up and I had to remind them that my 230HKD was for overnight.
All in all not my best night but certainly not my worst.
YF
Gents,
I'm visiting hk for the sevens in 2 weeks with 9 of my closest mongers. I've got a penthouse booked in a central hotel. Is there an easy way to organise an afternoon of mayhem like in bangkok where we can get 15-20 girls back for s.t ??
Any numbers I can call.
Easy now
MH
I know I can RTFF but I have not gleaned much info from all the fluff in betweem about recommended AMPs' in HKG or Kowloon. Can I ask some of the more senior punters to PM me about recommendations for the area?
Also recommended YS places if possible.
It would be much appreciated. Be in HKG in April.
Further to the post below, are the AMPs you see advertised on the streets (some say massage, others foot massage etc) generally those that provide happy endings? I was tempted to just walk in but it might be embarrassing to stricp naked if it's not one of those AMPs.
[QUOTE=The Voice]Further to the post below, are the AMPs you see advertised on the streets (some say massage, others foot massage etc) generally those that provide happy endings? I was tempted to just walk in but it might be embarrassing to stricp naked if it's not one of those AMPs.[/QUOTE]I think that's the name, anyhow. Was out there last June and stayed at the Shangrila Kowloon. Coming out of the hotel and turning left (west), go to the end of the road and wander on across Chatham. Stay on Mody Rd going west a block or 2 past Chatham. You can check around the area as I just don't recall the specific direction. Can't be more than 200 meters from the hotel. This place is upstairs on the 4th or 5th floor I think, and has the typical gaudy neon. One or 2 locals run the entrance, and they'll put you into the elevator. Check in at the front and a kid will take you to the changing room and give you a towel. He'll watch you strip (kinda creepy) and point you to the shower stalls. Then he'll take you to a waiting room and if it's not too busy you won't have to wait too long til the girl takes you to the massage room.
This place had a very happy ending when the massage was done. She pulled off her panties and fucked like a rabbit. I think the damage was 790 HK. Seemed like a decent value and the FS was very energetic.
Tankuki
[QUOTE=Tankuki]
Tankuki[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info Tankuki. What I really was enquiring about was AMPs that do great full body massages but with a HJ at the end (in Aust that what we mean by happy ending in respect to massages - though in your case it truly was a happy ending!).
During recent trip I decided to partake of the 141 Hotel Reservation "option".
Here are number of comments
Usually only one out of 5 of the numbers you call will speak just some basic business. Number of times there was higher than advertised rate given.
One big scheme is to provide you with a girl other than shown.
The first time I called a number, the girl arrived on time. Looking at here I was not sure if she was the one but kept her since she was fine.
Another time, I kept the screen up on my laptop to the page so that when the girl arrived I could compare - WOW!!! - nothing like it. I gave her some taxi money and told her to scram. So be careful and reject what you don't like.
The talent at Hari's is some used 4 & 5 Filipinas and Thai - used "Stock". There is also a great presence from the russian talent - with mamotcha nearby. Man these girls are "stuck-up".
Nearby Sticky Fingers prooved the best for me as I found a mature but real caring Thai - kept her for three nights.
Fenwicks, Neptune and Makati - all much written about provided some young talent.
Walking by the various bars in Wanchai, walk by the curb otherwise your shirt sleeves will be torn by the ladies trying to pull you in.
One trip to the Paris Club in TST also provided a good find.
Ok, the search button says no hits for "black"...
Anyone knows where to find a black girl? Or better still: how to invite her tomy hotel?
Best and thanks
[QUOTE=Burty]Ok, the search button says no hits for "black"...
Anyone knows where to find a black girl? Or better still: how to invite her tomy hotel?
Best and thanks[/QUOTE]I've seen a couple of black girls in Neptune Disco, Wanchai district. They were pretty attractive. Neptune has mostly Asian girls, but also has a sprinkle of white, Hispanic and black girls.
[QUOTE=Burty]Ok, the search button says no hits for "black"...
Anyone knows where to find a black girl? Or better still: how to invite her tomy hotel?
Best and thanks[/QUOTE]
I've seen a few in the Wanchai bars recently - try Fenwicks, Dusk till Dawn or Neptunes. I've spoken to a few within the last week. One from Somali was particularly striking but take nose pinchers with you - they honked.
As for getting them to the hotel, try "would you like to go back to my hotel?"
[QUOTE=Burty]Ok, the search button says no hits for "black"...
Anyone knows where to find a black girl? Or better still: how to invite her tomy hotel?
Best and thanks[/QUOTE]
Hey Burty,
There are number of the black girls frequenting Hari's Bar in the Holiday Inn Golden Mile on Nathan - TST.
Saw them there every night this week. Warning, these come with big "buts" so if that is your thing - go for it.
Not mine.
Recently had a stopover in Hong Kong on our way to Thailand. On a Friday night upon arrival, after checking out the expact area (many clubs and lounges wiht lots and lots of well dressed bankers men and few attractive asian women - worse than NY on a bad night) we headed to Wan Chai. Frenwiks was packed, though more men than women. Prices rather high and quality wasn't there. You run into a cute girl every now and then. A decent looking Thai girl was asking 1500 saying you won't find a cheaper Thai girl. I had a week in Thailand ahead of me, so I passed. Getting tired after an hour or so not liking anyone ran into this 19 year old russian girl who was cute and had a nice body. I liked her and took her to the hotel even though I felt there was little chemistry between us. She would not accept below 1200, telling me they have a pimp and have to pay their sponsors etc etc.. Overall Hong Kong is quality western city with great food but for nightlife free or p4p look elsewhere imho. One more thing: on our way back on a Monday night Frenwicks had a much better ratio (i.e. a lot fewer men). Also Neptunes II was pretty happening on a Monday night. We were also told Joe Banana is a good pickup joint, but it was rather slow that night.
[QUOTE=The Voice]Thanks for the info Tankuki. What I really was enquiring about was AMPs that do great full body massages but with a HJ at the end (in Aust that what we mean by happy ending in respect to massages - though in your case it truly was a happy ending!).[/QUOTE]That probably was not the greatest massage on earth, but I wasn't too concerned that night. Yea, the "happy ending" meaning is standard, just never know if folks are looking for more than that. The girl there certainly would've provided a HJ instead of FS. Don't know whether the price would be less, though.
You mention AMP, but is there any non-Asian MP in HK?? :-)
Happy hunting!
Tankuki
Hi guys,
Thanks for your answers on where to find a black girl. However,I will be spending one night in the airport hotel only, and am looking for an 'incall' to that hotel, which would save me a trip up and down to HK proper. Checked various websites but none seem to have black girls. Any suggestions for close to the airport?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Sean EZ]Recently had a stopover in Hong Kong on our way to Thailand. On a Friday night upon arrival, after checking out the expact area (many clubs and lounges wiht lots and lots of well dressed bankers men and few attractive asian women - worse than NY on a bad night) we headed to Wan Chai. Frenwiks was packed, though more men than women. Prices rather high and quality wasn't there. You run into a cute girl every now and then. A decent looking Thai girl was asking 1500 saying you won't find a cheaper Thai girl. I had a week in Thailand ahead of me, so I passed. Getting tired after an hour or so not liking anyone ran into this 19 year old russian girl who was cute and had a nice body. I liked her and took her to the hotel even though I felt there was little chemistry between us. She would not accept below 1200, telling me they have a pimp and have to pay their sponsors etc etc.. Overall Hong Kong is quality western city with great food but for nightlife free or p4p look elsewhere imho. One more thing: on our way back on a Monday night Frenwicks had a much better ratio (i.e. a lot fewer men). Also Neptunes II was pretty happening on a Monday night. We were also told Joe Banana is a good pickup joint, but it was rather slow that night.[/QUOTE]
This one looks the same as one hanging around Hari's Bar in Holiday Inn with the other Russian Talent
Sounds like Hari's bar is a good place for mongering. Is it good every night?
Will have to try it out.
[QUOTE=Jiggy]Sounds like Hari's bar is a good place for mongering. Is it good every night?
Will have to try it out.[/QUOTE]
Jiggy, there are always girls at Hari's bar every night - mostly 5 and 6's much of "old stock". Usually a large group of Russian Talent. Once in a while you can find something okay.
You guys have got me focused on mongering! I will try the girls out from hari's bar. Since I'm staying at the holiday it should be just a quick trip up the elevator to the room.
Whats the best rate for a short time? I was thinking $500 is the max considering the bar and my room are in the one hotel?
Just noticed that the 141 site is down due to "serious crimes" as he notes states. Anyone knows what this is all about ???
[QUOTE=Firebird]Just noticed that the 141 site is down due to "serious crimes" as he notes states. Anyone knows what this is all about ???[/QUOTE]
If you read the SCMP, you will see that it is reporting that four prostitutes have been found dead over the past few days.
From reading the reports, its seems these were 141 prostitutes.
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Fourth HK prostitute found dead
Apparent murder of sex worker in North Point baffles police
Regina Leung
6:30pm, Mar 17, 2008
Amid fears that a serial killer may be at large in Hong Kong, police were investigating the apparent murder of a fourth prostitute – whose body was found in her flat at 2.30pm on Monday.
The 28-year-old sex worker was found dead in a North Point flat on Monday afternoon. No name has been issued for the victim yet.
Her death brings the tally of suspected prostitute murders in the past three days to four.
A police spokesman received a call from the victim’s friend at 2.30pm on Monday that there was a woman found dead in a flat at the building of 96 Electric Road in North Point.
She was strangled with a towel. Her friend told police that she lost contact with the victim on Sunday afternoon. Police suspect she was murdered on Sunday.
A large contingent of police officers is investigating the case. The building and two shops beneath the building have been cordoned off. All residents have to be identified before they can enter the buildings.
A resident living in the building told domestic media that prostitutes lived on the first, fourth and fifth floors of the building. He believed the woman who died had lived on the first floor.
Police Commissioner Tang King-shing, said the force was deeply concerned about recent murder cases involving sex workers.
“The cases would be handled and investigated by the Organised Crime and Triad Bureau and we will investigate the cases comprehensively and actively.
“Right now we are investigating the cause of the woman’s death and whether the case was being linked with another three cases of sex workers being murdered earlier in the New Territories,” Mr Tang said. “We have yet to identify the exact motive of the murderer, but we will keep an open mind in investigating these cases to see if they were linked,” he added.
He also urged sex workers to be vigilant. Police believe the killer may be a non-Chinese man – possibly a Pakistani.
“Police has set up a hotline for investigation. Anyone who can provide information should call, tel: 2666-4487,” he said.
Meanwhile, police were continuing to probe the murder of another sex worker – whose body was found in her flat at 12.45am on Monday.
She had been the third prostitute to be apparently murdered in three days.
A police spokesman on Monday morning told RTHK that “Kei Kei”, 35, was the third victim, after “Co Co” in Yuen Long and “Sa Sa” in Tai Po were strangled to death in the previous two days.
“We have received a call from a Zi Teng sex workers’ organisation saying they could not contact her, and asking us to investigate,” the police spokesman said.
“When we arrived at her flat in Kwong Fuk Road in Tai Po, she was unconscious and had been choked to death. We are investigating whether there were any valuables taken.”
Police said they believed Kei Kei was killed by the same person who killed the other victims. Sa Sa, who was also a sex worker was found strangled in a Tai Po flat on Saturday night. She died on Sunday. Co Co was found dead inside a Yuen Long flat on Saturday morning.
Police said money and valuables had been taken from inside the women’s flats – suggesting that robbery may also have been a motive.
There had been other robbery cases involving sex workers in Tai Po in 2006. At least two people were arrested in connection with these cases.
Police fear a serial killer might be trying to kill prostitutes in the New Territories. Police have still not confirmed whether the fourth victim found in North Point could have been killed by the same person or people who killed the other three women.
A criminologist has warned prostitutes to stop advertising their services.
The Apple Daily reported on Monday that police suspect a Pakistani man may be involved in the killings, and were trying to identity him. But by late Monday afternoon, there had been no clarification on the killer, or killers’, identity.
I need to report again on the River Nile Sauna, located at Marsh Road and Gloucester Road in Wanchai. Some brothers may recall that I first reviewed this place last August, after I went there late one night and got a full service for some 1,700 dollars Hong Kong. Then some time last September I went back during lunch time and, as I reported afterwards, didn’t get any extra service, not even a handjob. My masseuse told me that she had just started working there for a week or so and was convinced that it was a straight place. I told her to get the manager into the massage room and he insisted that there was no more extra service, even after I had told him of the full service that I had got just one month back.
Last week, I decided that I needed a good massage, ideally with some extras thrown in. I thought that since the masseuses at River Nile (at least the two that I tried) did have good massage skills, and that the place was very clean and nicely decorated, I might as well try it again. So, during the lunch break last Monday, I went there on my own, arriving shortly after mid-day. After taking a shower, I went to the lounge, and the manager asked if I had a favourite masseuse. I asked about Sandy, the girl who gave me full service on my first visit. The manager said he didn’t know the girls’ names and asked me for her number. I said I forgot her number and asked him to recommend someone. He then went away and after about 10 minutes I was led to my room.
Now, I must emphasis that on my second visit I had also mentioned Sandy’s name, and again the manager (I don’t recall if it was the same manager) said he only knew the girl’s numbers. As far as I can recall, my behaviour in the lounge during the second and third visits was really the same. During the first visit, I even confessed that I had never been there before.
Anyway, this time the masseuse waiting for me in my room was number 118, a certain Miss Ho, who was quite a big girl as far as Hong Kong girls are concerned. She was wearing a T-shirt and short skirts, but the uniform was not very sexy and certainly did not reveal any cleavage. Her massage skills were very good and forceful. She wasn’t very talkative, but I did learn that she had joined for about a month, having been a masseuse at a beauty parlour in Ma On Shan previously, serving mostly female clients with an occasional male customer or two. I asked her if there was any difference between the massage that she gave at the beauty parlour and at River Nile, and her answer was very straight forward – there was no erotic service at the beauty parlour.
So, clearly she was going to give me some extra services, but I didn’t ask what they might be. During the first seesion of straight massage, she first gave me a thorough rub down over a blanket. This was followed by an oil rub, which was done very discreetly. She didn’t pull off my shorts, just pushed them a bit down my buttock to allow her to rub oil over my waist. Again, when rubbing oil over my thighs, she would just push the legs of my shorts up, without touching my little brother.
Then came the second part, and she turned off the lights. First, she pulled my shorts down to give my backside an oil rub. Clearly she had not been well trained. I was about to give her a free lesson but she suddenly stopped and stepped away. I turned around and saw that she was taking her T-shirt and bra off. Then she returned to massage my buttock with her tits. Again her skills were wanting. I told her to be more gentle, but the lesson didn’t last very long. For she then told me to flip over and went away to get a condom from her purse. Now I wasn’t really expecting this but certainly didn’t mind having sex with her. Unfortunately she said the aromatherapy service did not include sex. She slipped the condom on my little brother, and started to give me a blowjob. I played with her tits (which were quite sizeable for a Hong Kong girl) for a little while, and then went on to fondle her ****, which was now totally wet. She admitted that she was aroused, a sign that she was really quite new in this business. I asked her to let me get inside her, but she said she would not do it until she got to know me better.
Finally, I blew my load inside her mouth, covered of course. After cleaning up, she walked me out locking her hands on my arm. With better lighting in the corridor, I found that she wasn’t really that attractive (late 20’s, a very plain and ordinary face). I probably won’t ask for her again next time, but I’ll certainly be back, though it still baffles me a bit what makes one qualify for full service at the River Nile Sauna. Any brother familiar with the rules there please enlighten me.
Total damage was 1,000 Hong Kong dollars, not too bad for a vigorous massage, handjob, titsjob and blowjob all thrown in. I suspect full service would cost some 1,600-1,700 dollars, which was what I paid the first time.
Great report WooVictor!
To the mongers, there this massage place on the Sheraton side at TST located in the basement that is a "legit" massage place. They charge all these prices, etc., including a "tip for the girl" charge. One can opt for 45 minutes or 90 minutes. I was there once (one of my first reports many years ago) and all the girls were drop dead gorgeous! Because I had a 45 minute massage, I didn't get the HJ, but I'm curious, with a place like that if I go for the full 90, do you think they can at least give me a happy ending? What I did get was, I was on my back and the girl put her hand into the leg opening of shorts rubbing my stomach, but never touching my pecker, but I sure tried to maneuver my body to get there. AHH!
I can't recall the name of the place, started with an "N" or an "R". The fascilities are terrific, the girls in the lounge are so beautiful and the massage girl is hot. But if this is a straight legit place, why do the girls look so damn hot? Has anyone been there and can give me an update. It pounds my mind with fantasies of trying to get a legit massage with a hot girl, giving me the happy ending!
There was a report a few years back of someone going to V.I.P. Massage and finding out later that 3 girls gave happy endings, but its super expensive.
So when I pay, should I say "does this include the special"? I'm going to check it out again, at least walk into the place and give it a go. I just can't subscribe to a joint that has some of the hottest girls all over the place ending up giving a back rub and sending you on your way with a stiffy!
Gyaos.
When traveling in Russia or Czech Republic it is very easy to arrange for a nice "lesbi" show with two hot girls. Naturally then you can join them for a nice "three some". You can also get this in Bangkok.
Is something like this possible in Hong Kong? Has anyone pulled let's say two Russian or two Thai girls and they provided a good lesbi show?? I know that "flippers" are not into it but I may be wrong.
Thanks for any comments and recommendations.
On one of the several visits I make to Hong Kong every year I had resolved this time to keep a detailed diary of who, where and when so that other punters could learn from my many mistakes but unfortunately the diary rapidly went down hill as I did. A small group of us descended on the day of our arrival after a 14 hour flight from the UK so that was mistake number one as we still had the BA flight booze in us. Anyway, Fenwicks, Galaxy and Neptunes were visited but in our eager anticipation we were there far to early - about 10.00pm. Both Galaxy and Fenwicks were almost empty. Neptune was a bit busier, probably because 2 beers were available for the price of one. As we sat down we were immediately surrounded, and some did not take "No" for an answer. I eventually succumbed to the attention of Nnng from Thailand but made the usual toilet excuse after about an hour and headed off to Galaxy where I met a 32 year old flipper who we shall call Miss M. Love at first sight and back to the hotel shortly after 11.00pm. HK$1000 for the night, which I reckon is the going rate. I packed her off at 2.30, badly needing some sleep and with a promise I would see her the next night. No sooner gone that the phone rings - its the boys wondering where I was. Cut a long story short, got up, dressed and back to Neptunes which was heaving by this time. Nnng was waiting and I could not resist. All back to the hotel for another night of passion. Another $1000 gone.
The next night followed much the same pattern only this time Nnng had to be ignored in favour of Miss M but if you are in Neptunes wher Nnng hangs about she is worth a bit of attention. Will do everything and not a bad looker (8 out of 10 and the same for performance).
The best part of two weeks was spent in and around the various well known Wan Chai places. I must say this time, however, the quaility varied quite a bit from poor one night to not bad the next. Our MO is to meet up with someone and then get out to somewhere like Dusk till Dawn where there is better entertainment and bands. It will not be everybody's cup of tea but we like to get to know the girls before we bang them and with a bunch of guys you can get a good laugh at the same time. I'm convinced as well, the girls like this, get a laugh as well and you get better service. The bands in Galaxy also take some beating. My Miss M became the light of my life and stayed with me for the rest of the 2 weeks. Too bad lads, she is now back in the Philippines. Great smile, great body and does everything, as well as costing me a fortune. Thats life. Included in all the good horizontal refreshment times comes a bonus, as my mates will also testify - you get your ironing done for you, they fold your clothes, keep the hotel rooms tidy and even put the toothpaste on your brush in the morning. We even got all our packing done before we left. Thats service! 3/4 days were then spent in Shenzhen and I have reported on our findings there under "Shenzhen".
Joe Bananas has a 48 year old HK girl permanently sitting on the LHS as you go in - she looks late 20's, offered a massage at $2000, going down to $1500 after negotiation but no lower, and could be interesting if anyone would like to try. Don't forget nevertheless the pussy is also 48 years old.
Bad news for the girls - several of our "girl friends" were compromised by plain clothes police operating in Fenwicks and Galaxy. They chat up the girls, buy them drinks, the girls agree to go to their "hotel" and as soon as they leave they are taken to the nearest police station. 2 months in jail and deportation follows. I know personally three girls caught in this sting.
Lessons learned? Still a great place to monger. I'm still convinced you don't pick up girls, they pick you up. You just cannot fail in Wanchai.
No need to go into the "Mamasan" type place on the main roads where you simply get ripped off.
Stay safe.
JacktheLad - strange that you should mention police in the bars. Last week got interested in a 27yo Flipper "spinner" in Fenwicks - slim body nice and trim. All during our conversation she was asking me if I was not a policeman and several times I had to show her my hotel "room card".
She actually demanded that I pay her before hand - I refused.
During the taxi ride to the hotel, she was quite nervous and repeatedly asked if I was police so I guess the raid do occur.
Mostly in answer to Firebirds questions.
In Wan Chai I have not really had a problem picking up girls for lesbi/3some. Just find one girl you are interested in and she can usually find a friend. Flippers have never been a problem, especially the ones that are over here on a break from their work in Angeles or P. Burgos.
As for the police, it seems in the last 6 to 9 months there have been a lot more raids using Westerners to round up the girls. There are some girls that are quite nervous about this. I am sure with the ex-kickboxed dieing in the love motel in Wan Chai last week that there will be another round of crackdowns. The serial killer who has so far killed 4 141 girls likely does not help either.
What is going on in Hong Kong right now. We are usually such a safe city.
[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]Mostly in answer to Firebirds questions.
In Wan Chai I have not really had a problem picking up girls for lesbi/3some. Just find one girl you are interested in and she can usually find a friend. Flippers have never been a problem, especially the ones that are over here on a break from their work in Angeles or P. Burgos.
As for the police, it seems in the last 6 to 9 months there have been a lot more raids using Westerners to round up the girls. There are some girls that are quite nervous about this. I am sure with the ex-kickboxed dieing in the love motel in Wan Chai last week that there will be another round of crackdowns. The serial killer who has so far killed 4 141 girls likely does not help either.
What is going on in Hong Kong right now. We are usually such a safe city.[/QUOTE]
Raids have been going on for over 10 yrs on a regular basis. I haven't noticed any more than normal in the past year.
I heard some credible rumors on the kick boxers death. Lets just say it wasn't someone elses doing.
It's astounding and bone chilling that this guy can do 3 (4?) girls in 4 days, considering the sheer crowding and density of the HK population.
This dude is strong enough to strangle 4 girls without any incident.
But with all the supposed CCTVs in the hallways and cameras in the 141 buildings and elevators, he should be caught or stopped very soon.
I just hope he isn't one of the member from this forum. That would suck.
Who is missing? :)
[QUOTE=Hat Trick]It's astounding and bone chilling that this guy can do 3 (4?) girls in 4 days, considering the sheer crowding and density of the HK population.
This dude is strong enough to strangle 4 girls without any incident.
But with all the supposed CCTVs in the hallways and cameras in the 141 buildings and elevators, he should be caught or stopped very soon.
[/QUOTE]
Well, he didn't strangle all four at the same time.
All the 141s affected by the murderer were in more remote areas of Hong Kong where buildings might not be outfitted with CCTV.
[QUOTE=FurryFriend]
All the 141s affected by the murderer were in more remote areas of Hong Kong where buildings might not be outfitted with CCTV.[/QUOTE]
The last murder was reported in 96 Electric road. From memory this would be in Tin Hau or might be a bit further in Fortress Hill.
This is Island side just two stops away from Wan Chai very near Victoria Park
I would think there would be CCTV as a few floors of this building have girls but it might be just monitoring not recording.
Hope they catch whomever is responsible. I lived in that area a while back.
The others where way out in the sticks as stated.
BJK
Wonder if anyone out there had previously tried one of the now dead 141 girls? I haven't as far as I can tell, but you never know. These girls move around a lot. Have never been out to the 141s in New Territories. I've been to 96 Electric Road (Tin Hau) once but for the life of me can't remember if she went by "Amy".
This link has a few of the girls' 141 pics
[url]http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?pp_cat=12&art_id=63253&sid=18112585&con_type=1[/url]
dear all,
please advised if there is speed turbojet boat cruising the route between hongkong and zhu hai. and is the port in zhu hai interconnected to the immigration entrance to china? please give info as well on the time of departure for the regular and weekend days and also the rate.
thanks for your assistance.
md
[quote=macho dik]dear all,
please advised if there is speed turbojet boat cruising the route between hongkong and zhu hai. and is the port in zhu hai interconnected to the immigration entrance to china? please give info as well on the time of departure for the regular and weekend days and also the rate.
thanks for your assistance.
md[/quote]as far as i can tell, ferries only from hk island side (shun tak). not sure if there is any from kowloon. i've taken this ferry once, on the departure floor directly opposite from the turbojet booking office.
[url]http://www.cksp.com.hk/eng/ship_schedule/ship_schedule_main_bottom.html[/url]
Zhuhai's ferry terminal is called - Jiuzhou Port 九洲港
Yes, once you passed Jiuzhou Port's immigration customs you're inside mainland China.
[url]http://www.cksp.com.hk/eng/ship_schedule/main.html[/url]
Skypier = HK airport.
A flying visit to HK meant I wound up in Fenwicks around midnight Saturday night. Very busy. I was immediately latched onto by a 5ft (if that) cute flipper spinner called Bianca. She was not a stunner but she was cute and I liked the chemistry. She did ask me if I was a policeman, so there must be some paranoia amongst the girls at the moment.
Bought her one drink then decided I would go with her. She wanted 2000HK for long time, I laughed. I offered 1000 and eventually settled on 1200. Maybe that was too much.
I was staying at the Metropark CB which is good as the lobby is on the first floor, but there are lifts at Ground floor level - if you are wary of the walk of shame, that might make things a little easier.
Onto the sex, it was very very GFE and her pussy was very tight. She was open to all suggestions. I used my own condoms as I like to use Trojan XL. I had a nice room with views over HK skyline and Kowloon and she was keen to keep the curtains open whilst we fucked and also liked me to fuck her standing up against the window. Oral was very good. I went two rounds, once finishing inside her and once on her perky titties.
Got to sleep about 4am. Woke up at 8am - another round and this time she sucked me off until I finished all over her face.
Overall a nice experience and I felt not too bad about the 1200 HK. I let her keep one of the bath robes as she took quite a shine to it. Didn't get charged for it.
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Hi,
Popped to HK last weekend, visited couple of saunas, lotto sauna in Wang Chai, nice place, good massage but no extras.
Next night went thsim tsa shui sauna, on Nathan road, 2 blocks up from Kowloon hotel on the 4th floor, full service with the nice young girl 798 $, what I liked especially, they gave a receipt that sais dinner and a restaurant so can get the money back if I dare.
The service was good, what I did not like I could not choose the girl (could have changed thouhg). Not faboulous like some saunas I visited in Shanghai but still very good.
[QUOTE=Goatboy55]A flying visit to HK meant I wound up in Fenwicks around midnight Saturday night. Very busy. I was immediately latched onto by a 5ft (if that) cute flipper spinner called Bianca. She was not a stunner but she was cute and I liked the chemistry. She did ask me if I was a policeman, so there must be some paranoia amongst the girls at the moment. [QUOTE]
The policeman comment has now been made several times recently and I can tell you a lot of the girls are running scared. Three "associates" of mine got lifted at Galaxy about 10 days ago. They were bought drinks by a white westener and negotiated a price to go back to his hotel. As soon as they reached the top of the stairs to leave Galaxy, a police car turned up and they were all taken to the local nick. He was a plain clothes policemen. They will do about 2 months and then be deported, never to be allowed back into HK again. It is actually not being allowed back that is the killer for them.
Another girl I met a year ago got done in exactly the same way and was in jail from October to Xmas. When she was released all her belongings had disappeared from her house. She was left with the clothes she stood in. Jail was not a good experience for her either.
I suggested to a regular of mine who still goes to Galaxy to move on to Fenwicks or Neptunes but she tells me the streets are crawling with police and she is scared to be seen leaving the clubs with a customer.
Maybe things will get better for the girls as what hits them will eventually hit us one way or another.
There does not appear to be a lot of LE activity but it is there under the surface. Even in Shenzhen there is a fair bit of LE activity.
[QUOTE=Hat Trick]Zhuhai's ferry terminal is called - Jiuzhou Port 九洲港
Yes, once you passed Jiuzhou Port's immigration customs you're inside mainland China.
[url]http://www.cksp.com.hk/eng/ship_schedule/main.html[/url]
Skypier = HK airport.[/QUOTE]
Thanks to both Hat trick and Nueromancer for a very informative details. I am planning to visit 下川島 (HSIA CHUAN DAO) and I will be using my ticket via Hong Kong, so what I understand on the information, as follows:
1) From Hong Kong Airport upon arriving, I can take the ferries or tirbojet to ZHUHAI
2) Upon arrival to Zhuhai (九州港), I can immeditely passed thru the immigration counter (拱北關) for entering Mainland china.
3) Now my new questions is : upon exist the immigration counter (拱北關), is there any busses that I can take to reached 山阻港 of which I can take another boat to 下川島? or is there any more alternative to reached that port. I am afraid of taking private car or taxi as it is more dangerous specially I am alone in this trip.
I hope to have your more advises, as I am planning my trip next tuesday.
cheers,
MD
[QUOTE=Jackthelad2][QUOTE=Goatboy55]A flying visit to HK meant I wound up in Fenwicks around midnight Saturday night. Very busy. I was immediately latched onto by a 5ft (if that) cute flipper spinner called Bianca. She was not a stunner but she was cute and I liked the chemistry. She did ask me if I was a policeman, so there must be some paranoia amongst the girls at the moment. [QUOTE]
The policeman comment has now been made several times recently and I can tell you a lot of the girls are running scared. Three "associates" of mine got lifted at Galaxy about 10 days ago. They were bought drinks by a white westener and negotiated a price to go back to his hotel. As soon as they reached the top of the stairs to leave Galaxy, a police car turned up and they were all taken to the local nick. He was a plain clothes policemen. They will do about 2 months and then be deported, never to be allowed back into HK again. It is actually not being allowed back that is the killer for them.
Another girl I met a year ago got done in exactly the same way and was in jail from October to Xmas. When she was released all her belongings had disappeared from her house. She was left with the clothes she stood in. Jail was not a good experience for her either.
I suggested to a regular of mine who still goes to Galaxy to move on to Fenwicks or Neptunes but she tells me the streets are crawling with police and she is scared to be seen leaving the clubs with a customer.
Maybe things will get better for the girls as what hits them will eventually hit us one way or another.
There does not appear to be a lot of LE activity but it is there under the surface. Even in Shenzhen there is a fair bit of LE activity.[/QUOTE]
This sort of thing has always been going on. I first heard the 'are you a policeman' question in the mid 90's.
If you are astute and the girl isn't naive you will often see the girl give a quick glance to either the manager or waitress who will give a signal back that you are 'ok'.
<i>They were bought drinks by a white westener and negotiated a price to go back to his hotel. As soon as they reached the top of the stairs to leave Galaxy, a police car turned up and they were all taken to the local nick. He was a plain clothes policemen. They will do about 2 months and then be deported, never to be allowed back into HK again. It is actually not being allowed back that is the killer for them. </i>
Someone please tell me this is a wind-up. 2 months prison for doing what exactly?
If this is true then the Hong Kong police literally have nothing to do. Its beyond pathetic. If they do see this as a crime then there arent any victims. Cant they do something useful like crack down on sex slavery where there are real victims.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog If you are astute and the girl isn't naive you will often see the girl give a quick glance to either the manager or waitress who will give a signal back that you are 'ok'.[/QUOTE]
For the benefit of our newbie mongerers, this goes on all the time in the bars with the regular girls. They invariably check out with the bar staff and others in the bar if you are a "regular" and if you are known to them. They do it very quietly and you would not know its happening. Of course it is not fool proof but it helps the girls decide on whether you are "safe" or not. A shrug from the waitress only means they don't know you, not that you are a problem.
The girls I know and have met tell me this goes on on the time.
[QUOTE=Ring Adingding]<
Someone please tell me this is a wind-up. 2 months prison for doing what exactly?
[/QUOTE]
This is no wind up - ask the Police what they lifted them for.
I know 4 girls who have suffered from the exploits of the local police - three of them are still in jail as we speak.
Prostitution is legal in HK but subject to various controls to keep it out of the public eye. A host of activities surrounding prostitution are not legal and included is soliciting for sex. That is what the girls are lifted for. They face a maximum fine of HK$10,000 and up to 6 months in jail.
[quote=jackthelad2]this is no wind up - ask the police what they lifted them for.
i know 4 girls who have suffered from the exploits of the local police - three of them are still in jail as we speak.
prostitution is legal in hk but subject to various controls to keep it out of the public eye. a host of activities surrounding prostitution are not legal and included is soliciting for sex. that is what the girls are lifted for. they face a maximum fine of hk$10,000 and up to 6 months in jail.[/quote]
and the jail is no picnic. my old flipper gf back in the 90's had a friend who was picked up and put in hk jail because her visa expired and she was an 'overstayer'. she was a virgin when she went in. 2 days later 2 lesbians basically raped her by 'fisting' her.
[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]This is no wind up - ask the Police what they lifted them for.
I know 4 girls who have suffered from the exploits of the local police - three of them are still in jail as we speak.
Prostitution is legal in HK but subject to various controls to keep it out of the public eye. A host of activities surrounding prostitution are not legal and included is soliciting for sex. That is what the girls are lifted for. They face a maximum fine of HK$10,000 and up to 6 months in jail.[/QUOTE]
Jack - no, most of the girls get charged with breach of their condition of stay in HK.
If they here as helpers, the only "work" they can do is as a helper.
If they are here as tourists, they cannot "work" at all.
The HK police find it much easier to convict for breach of condition of stay. The same thing goes for visiting ticket touts at the rugby - they get lifted for breach of condition of stay.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Uncle Goober]Jack - no, most of the girls get charged with breach of their condition of stay in HK.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for this information - interesting. All I know is that my flipper friend last year got charged with soliciting in Galaxy. She got 2 months in jail and as HK Dog below has said, it was no picnic. She lost stones in weight and was a shadow of herself when she came out. The worst part for her is she cannot return to HK now. My 3 friends that also got lifted recently are still in jail - I checked just yesterday. Their friends have already sent all their belongings back to Philippines.
So not only do the girls have to watch potential punters, they have to watch what is going on around them. Some are scared stiff right now.
Could the hightened LE presence be due to the upcoming Rugby match??? By the way what are the dates of the rugby matches?? When is it over? Is there usually an increase of punters?
I have an upcoming trip to HK and I'd sure hate to have the "rates" go up due to increased demand.
After months of fevered anticipation, planning, and lots of visits to this site, I finally arrived in HK on Wednesday night.
After all your good advice – some of which, as you will see, I have not learned from – I thought I owe it to you all to give you reports of my progress.
Got to my hotel in Wanchai at midnight Wednesday. Quick refresh and out to see some of the bars I’ve read about. Started in Neptune and within 5 minutes a lovely Thai girl had attached herself to me. A rather stilted conversation followed in which we both knew what might be going to happen. Eventually she offered to massage my weary body, and asked whether I had any condoms. (Do bears live in woods?? ) Apparently in HK you need condoms for massage!
Money was not a question, but I was concerned about the reaction of my hotel. She did not see this as a problem and we walked in without a murmur from the staff. I had expected great things of Hong Kong but to be on a bed with a gorgeous and willing girl within an hour of my arrival in Wanchai was beyond my wildest dreams. I shall spare you the details except to say that it was a wonderful night. She did everything including singing Thai folk-songs as she massaged and showered. But while she performed everything that I could ask for, she was at the same time discreet and demure. Lovely!
Thursday opened with a wonderful bout before she left. I did give her a 'donation' as thanks and then I learned that the girls were being careful as a number had been trapped by police and taken to prison. Hence no discussion of money at the bar.
Despite a wonderful night I knew I had to make the most of my HK trip and wanted to explore other avenues on Thursday. Having regained my 'strength' I thought an experience of 141 would be a good start. Fuji was nearest and I set off enthusiastically. I found the building quickly and, bold as brass, marched through the doorway. I had only got my feet on the third step when I looked up and saw three policemen on the landing at the top of the stairs. I was down and across the road in record time. A wasted journey.
But it gave me the opportunity to try a Hotel Reservation girl. I chose Ceci in TST. Went over there to watch the Ceremony of Lights (got to do some tourist things amid all the mongering) and then phoned her papasan. Good English, poor directions. I did eventually arrive at the hotel and got her room number quickly. The door opened to reveal a pretty little girl who was certainly not Ceci. She was not as tall as Ceci; she had at best 35Bs and not Ceci's advertised 36C's; she did not speak English as Ceci does; and, the definitive proof, she did not know her name. I did feel I was being taken for a ride but I wanted a ride – so I stayed.
I soon spotted that her aim was to get me to cum as quickly as possible and being an awkward sod I determined to deliberately do the opposite. The bbbj was good, although not a patch on the wonders performed by my Thai girl. Then the fake moaning began which only made me more determined and I resolved to make her come. Cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, mish, and then doggy with me standing by the bed massaging her clit and tiny tight other hole at the same time. That did the trick and when we changed to legs in the air mish at the side of the bed the false moaning changed to real moaning and she came with a gush. The only problem was that she then became more mechanical again. But I lasted and lasted. She pretended to be shocked when I asked (hand signals) her if I could come in her mouth. But one thing in her favour was that she was quite tight and had internal muscles that could really squeeze - so I filled a good rubber.
Lessons learned?
• Don't use the lying papasan on 6675 0871.
• Carry a photo of the girl – I have laptop with me but no printer.
• Have the girl come to your hotel – unfortunately an extra $200 if you're in Wanchai and she's in TST.
• I should have told him that I had chosen her for her English – making it less easy to swap her.
• Have a map with hotels on - saves a lot of time.
Ceci, if you read this, you owe me a fuck.
One day gone, four to go ...
[quote=hk dog]she was a virgin when she went in. 2 days later 2 lesbians basically raped her by 'fisting' her.[/quote]
are you trying to make me jack off in front of my computer?
gyaos in hk and macau next week. reports coming!
gyaos.
[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]Thanks for this information - interesting. All I know is that my flipper friend last year got charged with soliciting in Galaxy. She got 2 months in jail and as HK Dog below has said, it was no picnic. She lost stones in weight and was a shadow of herself when she came out. The worst part for her is she cannot return to HK now. My 3 friends that also got lifted recently are still in jail - I checked just yesterday. Their friends have already sent all their belongings back to Philippines.
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[/QUOTE]
I would tend to think that the gals get charged with both soliciting and breach of condition of stay; first, they get arrested on solicitation. Second, they get charged with breach of condition of stay. Double whammy when they get to court. Sentencing would also reflect two crimes instead of one.
[QUOTE=Pinkerton]
But it gave me the opportunity to try a Hotel Reservation girl. I chose Ceci in TST. The door opened to reveal a pretty little girl who was certainly not Ceci. She was not as tall as Ceci; she had at best 35Bs and not Ceci's advertised 36C's; she did not speak English as Ceci does; and, the definitive proof, she did not know her name.
Pinkerton, the 141 game is known for "bait and switch". During last trip to HK. I ordered two girls to my hotel, the first one looked quite similar to one I ordered and I kept her. With the second one I had my laptop on and then I showed her the pictures of the girl I ordered - the one that came did NOT look at all like what I wanted. I sent her packing. I guess when you order the girl, you tell the papasan that you know the game and not to waste his and your time if he is going to send another girl.
Question to the Forum: on the 141 profiles, for some girls it shows : Mandarin/English.
Does this mean that the girl speaks English???
I read in the Forum that the 141 Hotel Reservation girls RARELY speak English. Can someone clarify this??
Thanks.
O. K gents. So me and my buddies have a penthouse NEXT WEEKEND. We come home drunk at 2-4 a. M. What numbers are we calling if we don't get what we want at fenwicks/neptunes etc. Girls p. M me if you are interested there are a few of us guys! LT only.
[QUOTE=Firebird][QUOTE=Pinkerton]But it gave me the opportunity to try a Hotel Reservation girl. I chose Ceci in TST. The door opened to reveal a pretty little girl who was certainly not Ceci. She was not as tall as Ceci; she had at best 35Bs and not Ceci's advertised 36C's; she did not speak English as Ceci does; and, the definitive proof, she did not know her name.
Pinkerton, the 141 game is known for "bait and switch". During last trip to HK. I ordered two girls to my hotel, the first one looked quite similar to one I ordered and I kept her. With the second one I had my laptop on and then I showed her the pictures of the girl I ordered - the one that came did NOT look at all like what I wanted. I sent her packing. I guess when you order the girl, you tell the papasan that you know the game and not to waste his and your time if he is going to send another girl.
Question to the Forum: on the 141 profiles, for some girls it shows : Mandarin/English.
Does this mean that the girl speaks English???
I read in the Forum that the 141 Hotel Reservation girls RARELY speak English. Can someone clarify this?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]If a girl's profile states she speaks Mandarin, she's definitely from mainland China and possibly from a rural area. Either way, knowledge of English is highly unlikely. From my experience, girls at 37 Dundas are from Hong Kong. Therefore, they do speak English.
English of the girls is a luck thing. I found a lot of the Mix ones actually are quite OK (as many of them are not Mix but Phillipina).
The others can be they only speak like "hallo, money, fu**, bye"
Good luck,
Mike
[QUOTE=Ring Adingding
Someone please tell me this is a wind-up. 2 months prison for doing what exactly?
If this is true then the Hong Kong police literally have nothing to do. Its beyond pathetic. If they do see this as a crime then there arent any victims. Cant they do something useful like crack down on sex slavery where there are real victims.[/QUOTE]
Ring: I guess you ARE a newbie. If you think none of these girls are under control of a gang, you are sadly very naive. Tell me which police force, Oceania, North America or Europe that would not prosecute prostitutes.
Let Governor Spitzer of New York know.
[QUOTE=London1975]OWe come home drunk at 2-4 a. M. What numbers are we calling if we don't get what we want at fenwicks/neptunes etc. .[/QUOTE]
If you don't get what you want at Fenwicks/neptunes etc then it is just not available elsewhere!
[QUOTE=Lilojo]Ring: I guess you ARE a newbie. If you think none of these girls are under control of a gang, you are sadly very naive. Tell me which police force, Oceania, North America or Europe that would not prosecute prostitutes.
Let Governor Spitzer of New York know.[/QUOTE]Hong Kong is different. They are taken because of braking their conditions of stay and not because of prostitution. Prostitution is (under certain circumstances) not illegal in HK.
My first post... OK arrived in HK Saturday and got settled in around 12:30 am. So no hunting except a late meal of wonton noodles across the street from my hotel. I am staying in the Mong kok area of Hong Kong.
Next day, walked around the shopping area nearby, down and around Nathan St, and ate at a couple places. Excellent dim sum, sorry didn't get the name of the restaurant. After about 4 hrs of that, tried a massage place that I knew was legit. Price on the sign was 138hk for 50 mins. Seem reasonable enough to relieve some ache muscles. When all was done, I was charged $316 for two massages, a friend and I. Then dropped $40 for tip. Not knowing that we were getting ripped. I dont speak, so I relied on my buddy, who does. He was told there a service charge. I figure a gwi lo charge. Anyways, I would never go back there. It is accross from the Metro Park Hotel Mong Kok.
This is where it gets special. My local friend arrived back from GD. He was doing his thing mainland and said he would take us around Sunday night. So after meeting him for dinner and walking a bit, we hoped in a cab to Sunshine Islands Suana on Hanoi St in the TST district. The sauna is on the 5th floor. After taking a shower, we lounged with some juice in the tv lounge. Then we were asked for what type of girl was preferred. We asked for young, what else. Then we relaxed, finsihed our juice and headed to our seperate rooms. When I got in, the light was dim but I could see the boobs poping from my maseuse's top. Skinny and very pleasant voice. I guess the staff knew I didnt speak chinese, so they chose one that spoke english. I was really happy and laid down to enjoy the massage. She was excellent with her hands. After about an hour, she asked if I wanted full service and I said yes. She started massaging the right areas and I was ready in a heart beat. She left to get some warm towels to clean the oil from the massage and then I flipped over. I couldn't she her face bewcause she turned the lights off, but I could she her boobs as undressed. They were nearly perfect on her small frame and very soft. Her butt also was just as empressive. She started with a cbj then jumped on top. She stayed there for a while and moaned qute loudly. My buddy said her heard us from the next room. We change positions three times until I got on top and hit it from there. This is when I got to get a glimse of her face. After about 20 mins, I blew my load. My friend in the next rooms was still going, so we talked a little. This is when the light came on I could see her. She is 27yrs and although she is tibetan and chinese, she didn't look it at all. Regardless, she was a stunner with a 10 body and service to back it up. I was really happy to spend the 800hk.
I am off to GZ today. I ll post if the adventures there get as pleasant as this. Thanks everyone for your posts. I have enjoyed reading them in prep for this trip. Cheers!
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[QUOTE=Tiger 888]Hong Kong is different. They are taken because of braking their conditions of stay and not because of prostitution. Prostitution is (under certain circumstances) not illegal in HK.[/QUOTE]
I do know that HK police prosecute for breaking condition of stay but the police hunt them because of their prostituition activities. If you read the HK newspapaer, it is always referred to as a "sweep of yellow" which is a literal translation for cleaning of prostituition activities. A lot of foreign countries also clean up prostituition by using other charges. Most places in North America, for example, use solicitation, living off the avails and brothel found-ins as charges since prostituition is also not illegal everywhere.
My point was HK police was no different from anywhere else. prostituition gives a bad image for the government and will be a target, be it propaganda or not.
[QUOTE=Firebird]Could the hightened LE presence be due to the upcoming Rugby match??? By the way what are the dates of the rugby matches?? When is it over? Is there usually an increase of punters?
I have an upcoming trip to HK and I'd sure hate to have the "rates" go up due to increased demand.[/QUOTE]The HK Rugby 7's is this weekend (28-30 March) and a busy weekend in Wan Chai: lots of punters and not a particularly good buyer's market!
Heightened police presence in Wan Chai and in areas where there are one-woman brothels (e.g. 141 type flats) is simply explained: there were four murders of prostitutes (all Chinese and all located in one-woman brothels) about 10 days ago. A serial killer suspect has been arrested for three of the murders. See report in 'The Standard' (HK English language daily - good website):
[url]http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?pp_cat=12&art_id=63393&sid=18151328&con_type=1[/url]
and the ex-boyfriend of the other victim has also now been arrested. Police have been checking all one-woman brothels/flats to ensure their safety - although there have been accusations that this is actually harrassment.
Police presence is also much higher during Rugby 7's weekend - with justification. It's alcoholic and silly. Not the best time to be making a visit - unless you also like the rugby and silliness.
[QUOTE=Talker Tom]My first post... OK arrived in HK Saturday and got settled in around 12:30 am. So no hunting except a late meal of wonton noodles across the street from my hotel. I am staying in the Mong kok area of Hong Kong.
Next day, walked around the shopping area nearby, down and around Nathan St, and ate at a couple places. Excellent dim sum, sorry didn't get the name of the restaurant. After about 4 hrs of that, tried a massage place that I knew was legit. Price on the sign was 138hk for 50 mins. Seem reasonable enough to relieve some ache muscles. When all was done, I was charged $316 for two massages, a friend and I. Then dropped $40 for tip. Not knowing that we were getting ripped. I dont speak, so I relied on my buddy, who does. He was told there a service charge. I figure a gwi lo charge. Anyways, I would never go back there. It is accross from the Metro Park Hotel Mong Kok.
This is where it gets special. My local friend arrived back from GD. He was doing his thing mainland and said he would take us around Sunday night. So after meeting him for dinner and walking a bit, we hoped in a cab to Sunshine Islands Suana on Hanoi St in the TST district. The sauna is on the 5th floor. After taking a shower, we lounged with some juice in the tv lounge. Then we were asked for what type of girl was preferred. We asked for young, what else. Then we relaxed, finsihed our juice and headed to our seperate rooms. When I got in, the light was dim but I could see the boobs poping from my maseuse's top. Skinny and very pleasant voice. I guess the staff knew I didnt speak chinese, so they chose one that spoke english. I was really happy and laid down to enjoy the massage. She was excellent with her hands. After about an hour, she asked if I wanted full service and I said yes. She started massaging the right areas and I was ready in a heart beat. She left to get some warm towels to clean the oil from the massage and then I flipped over. I couldn't she her face bewcause she turned the lights off, but I could she her boobs as undressed. They were nearly perfect on her small frame and very soft. Her butt also was just as empressive. She started with a cbj then jumped on top. She stayed there for a while and moaned qute loudly. My buddy said her heard us from the next room. We change positions three times until I got on top and hit it from there. This is when I got to get a glimse of her face. After about 20 mins, I blew my load. My friend in the next rooms was still going, so we talked a little. This is when the light came on I could see her. She is 27yrs and although she is tibetan and chinese, she didn't look it at all. Regardless, she was a stunner with a 10 body and service to back it up. I was really happy to spend the 800hk.
I am off to GZ today. I ll post if the adventures there get as pleasant as this. Thanks everyone for your posts. I have enjoyed reading them in prep for this trip. Cheers!
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Hiya
Great report on Sunshine Islands Sauna. In HK soon and will visit. Did u get the name or number of the girl u had?
Im also going to GZ soon. Would be very interested to know if u find any action there as it seems harder to find.
Enjoy!
WW
[QUOTE=WhosWho]Hiya,
Great report on Sunshine Islands Sauna. In HK soon and will visit. Did u get the name or number of the girl you had?
Im also going to GZ soon. Would be very interested to know if u find any action there as it seems harder to find.
Enjoy!
WW[/QUOTE]Her name there is Louie. It is a nickname. She told me her real name but I ve forgotten it. Her number is 62. Have fun!
I became a bit of a fan of the old sauna during my HK journey. I went to contact some 141 & 161 girls but the one I really wanted I forgot to pack her details so being the lazy hooer that I am I hit the saunas.
Luckily there was one virtually next door to my hotel (regal kowloon). Noble sauna was the name of it. I went there a couple of times. First visit was a beauty. Got shown downstairs by the girl and led to changeroom for shower etc. Much like Royal City in Melbourne. From there I was asked if I wanted a pedicure & I hesitated but when this big Chinese guy came out I reneged, and the staff thought this was pretty funny. Anyway, the guy asked me if I wanted full body and I said yes. He asked if I'd been here before and I nervously replied "yes". He must've known I was bullshitting.
From here I was led to a small massage room, with an older Chinese woman, prob mid late 30's with a nice figure. She was wearing a see-through black top with a pleated small white skirt. Nice look. Off with the threads for a great massage, before she asked me if I wanted the special for $1098HK. I tried to negioate a better price, but she said its a fixed price, so OK.
She says she'll be back after getting a condom. When she returns, the girl grabs the oil bottle and oils up her chest something fierce, and starts to rub her oily tits all over my back and ass. Feels great as shes pretty busty, and all is going well. Then she asks me to turn over where she does the same again, but this time concentrating on the old fella. Then I go to grab a fell of those boobs and she starts dirty talking saying how good it feels, and to grab them harder, so I do. Then she gets the condom and says for me to get on top, while shes still wearing her little skirt. I start going for it, and shes doing the fake moaning bit, sounded good though. All of a sudden after a few minutes of action she lets rip with a scream, and it feels like she had open the flood gates, as she was as moist as moist can get. Its taken her a few minutes, but she's really gotten into it, as she put me into a grip, won't let go and has started digging her nails into my back. Feels good, really good, and soon its over!
She finishes me off by finishing the massage, bit of a conversation and asks me to come back to see her. I did ask for her a couple of days later, but the guy said to try someone else. In reality I don't think he spoke good English. Good experience and it did bring me back a few days later. The next girl though was younger, the sex was OK , but not as good as the first time. Both girls I had here were pretty busty too.
If you want to know where it is, go to the back of the Regal Kowloon, walk towards HSBC ATM's and its about 50m on the left. Go down the stairs. Opposite it is a hostess bar and a 7-11 on the corner.
I did try another sauna, I think in Moby ST. one afternoon. Spur of the moment thing. Funny thing was, it was crowded, and the hostess actually had a list of things to do EG: straight massage, HJ, oral, or full sex. I chose the HJ for $680HK. Got a chunky Chinese girl whose name I don't know! (Sorry). She had a good body her English was alright, and she had a great set of tits. Good massage, nice and hard, but unfortunatly she needed to soften up when massaging my ring.
Got the turn over and she started the gentle rub, then mentioned for me to touch her ass. Felt good too, and I slipped my hand under her panties to squeeze that ass cheek, then to start fingering her from behind, which she enjoyed. She soon threw her panties to the floor. Soon though I wanted to feel those big tits of hers, and I told her to take her top off, to which I went straight for those big nips, all the while she moaned and stroked my cock. Then I went back to feeling her ass gently, and she told me to start feeling hard not soft, so i really went to town squeezing that curvy ass, all the while the girl talking dirty telling me how good it felt! Those Chinese girls can really turn it on, and soon her stroking got too much, and the spasms worked their way through my body and it was finished.
I think she missed her calling as a sports masseuse, as I told her I had a crook shoulder, and she said she'd fix it, and she did. Shoulder felt good after the rub. 2 good rubs in the same session. Who could ask for more!
Damage done $680HKD
Good place for a single bloke Asia!
[QUOTE=London1975]O. K gents. So me and my buddies have a penthouse NEXT WEEKEND. We come home drunk at 2-4 a. M. What numbers are we calling if we don't get what we want at fenwicks/neptunes etc. Girls p. M me if you are interested there are a few of us guys! LT only.[/QUOTE]
PLEASE - remind me to get out of town when the 7's crowd get here.
SE Asia Joe
SE Asia Joe
Hey the 7's can be fun. If you sit in a corporate box or the upper deck it can be a good time, and this is coming from someone who is not a rugby fan. (Or you can sit in the south stands and have people dressed up in costumes throw beer at you).
Just avoid Wan Chai (and Lan Kwai Fong and Causewaybay) when all the partiers/wankers (take your pick) from overseas get here. I shall not be around Wan Chai at all in the next two weeks.
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]PLEASE - remind me to get out of town when the 7's crowd get here.
SE Asia Joe[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lilojo]Ring: I guess you ARE a newbie. If you think none of these girls are under control of a gang, you are sadly very naive. Tell me which police force, Oceania, North America or Europe that would not prosecute prostitutes.
Let Governor Spitzer of New York know.[/QUOTE]Most police forces don't prosecute prostitues. The activivtes of the HK police are ridiculous. They go into a bar, invite the girl back to a hotel and then when she discusses money they lock her up! Every bloke who goes into thes bars knows what the score is. There is no crime being committed and no victim. The explanation that they are breaking the conditions of their stay (ie earning money) is the real reason they are being prosecuted. Wan Chai is a sex for sale business park basically. The police know and accept this. They arent prosecuting the girls for soliciting.
Incidentally if a girl is under control of a gang then thats a different matter altogether. The gangs need to be taken out of the equation. Now that would be something useful the HK police could work on.
[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]SE Asia Joe
Hey the 7's can be fun. If you sit in a corporate box or the upper deck it can be a good time, and this is coming from someone who is not a rugby fan. (Or you can sit in the south stands and have people dressed up in costumes throw beer at you).
Just avoid Wan Chai (and Lan Kwai Fong and Causewaybay) when all the partiers/wankers (take your pick) from overseas get here. I shall not be around Wan Chai at all in the next two weeks.[/QUOTE]
Yes - of course the seven's itself is GREAT but its the crap that happens around HKG during the sevens that is the real downer. All these Button down types either going all BSD or else letting 'er rip and acting like idiots, or the Football louts doing what they always do, or the Rugby Gents who becomes non-gents off the field... the types/antics goes on and on but the end result is always that all the regular mongering spots turns into a giant rowdy and over-priced killing field.
And all this on top of the recent killing of the 4 HKG WG's and the LE crack-down in BJ (and soon to be other places in China?? - Which perhaps will bring the punters back down to the safer shores of HKG).
SEAJ
I became a bit of a fan of the old sauna during my HK journey. I went to contact some 141 & 161 girls but the one I really wanted I forgot to pack her details so being the lazy hooer that I am I hit the saunas.
Luckily there was one virtually next door to my hotel (regal kowloon). Noble sauna was the name of it. I went there a couple of times. First visit was a beauty. Got shown downstairs by the girl and led to changeroom for shower etc. Much like Royal City in Melbourne. From there I was asked if I wanted a pedicure & I hesitated but when this big Chinese guy came out I reneged, and the staff thought this was pretty funny. Anyway, the guy asked me if I wanted full body and I said yes. He asked if I'd been here before and I nervously replied "yes". He must've known I was bullshitting.
From here I was led to a small massage room, with anolder Chinese woman, prob mid late 30's with a nice figure. She was wearing a see-through black top with a pleated small white skirt. Nice look. Off with the threads for a great massage, before she asked me if I wanted the special for $1098HK. I tried to negioate a better price, but she said its a fixed price, so OK.
She says she'll be back after getting a condom. When she returns, the girl grabs the oil bottle and oils up her chest something fierce, and starts to rub her oily tits all over my back and ass. Feels great as shes pretty busty, and all is going well. Then she asks me to turn over where she does the same again, but this time concentrating on the old fella. Then I go to grab a fell of those boobs and she starts dirty talking saying how good it feels, and to grab them harder, so I do. Then she gets the condom and says for me to get on top, while shes still wearing her little skirt. I start going for it, and shes doing the fake moaning bit, sounded good though. All of a sudden after a few minutes of action she lets rip with a scream, and it feels like she had open the flood gates, as she was as moist as moist can get. Its taken her a few minutes, but she's really gotten into it, as she put me into a grip, won't let go and has started digging her nails into my back. Feels good, really good, and soon its over!
She finishes me off by finishing the massage, bit of a conversation and asks me to come back to see her. I did ask for her a couple of days later, but the guy said to try someone else. In reality I don't think he spoke good English. Good experience and it did bring me back a few days later. The next girl though was younger, the sex was OK , but not as good as the first time. Both girls I had here were pretty busty too.
If you want to know where it is, go to the back of the Regal Kowloon, walk towards HSBC ATM's and its about 50m on the left. Go down the stairs. Opposite it is a hostess bar and a 7-11 on the corner.
I did try another sauna, I think in Moby ST. one afternoon. Spur of the moment thing. Funny thing was, it was crowded, and the hostess actually had a list of things to do EG: straight massage, HJ, oral, or full sex. I chose the HJ for $680HK. Got a chunky Chinese girl whose name I don't know! (Sorry). She had a good body her English was alright, and she had a great set of tits. Good massage, nice and hard, but unfortunatly she needed to soften up when massaging my ring.
Got the turn over and she started the gentle rub, then mentioned for me to touch her ass. Felt good too, and I slipped my hand under her panties to squeeze that ass cheek, then to start fingering her from behind, which she enjoyed. She soon threw her panties to the floor. Soon though I wanted to feel those big tits of hers, and I told her to take her top off, to which I went straight for those big nips, all the while she moaned and stroked my cock. Then I went back to feeling her ass gently, and she told me to start feeling hard not soft, so i really went to town squeezing that curvy ass, all the while the girl talking dirty telling me how good it felt! Those Chinese girls can really turn it on, and soon her stroking got too much, and the spasms worked their way through my body and it was finished.
I think she missed her calling as a sports masseuse, as I told her I had a crook shoulder, and she said she'd fix it, and she did. Shoulder felt good after the rub. 2 good rubs in the same session. Who could ask for more!
Damage done $680HKD
Is it easy to get BBBJ & CIM and French Kiss in HK?
It seems judging from those field reports that service is rather limited at those massage parlors and you get just cbj & straight sex.
Can anyone enlight me about the level of services in the HK scene, and the different scene that exists, sauna, pick up bar, independant escorts, escort agencies, KTV etc.
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]Is it easy to get BBBJ & CIM and French Kiss in HK?
It seems judging from those field reports that service is rather limited at those massage parlors and you get just cbj & straight sex.
Can anyone enlight me about the level of services in the HK scene, and the different scene that exists, sauna, pick up bar, independant escorts, escort agencies, KTV etc.[/QUOTE]
Escort Fan - why don't you "do your homework" and read the pages of the forum?
Don't be lazy and wait to be "spoon fed" - RTFF. All the information can be found here!!!
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]Is it easy to get BBBJ & CIM and French Kiss in HK?
It seems judging from those field reports that service is rather limited at those massage parlors and you get just cbj & straight sex.
Can anyone enlight me about the level of services in the HK scene, and the different scene that exists, sauna, pick up bar, independant escorts, escort agencies, KTV etc.[/QUOTE]At 37 Dundas, BBBJ and French kiss was standard service for me. At some yellow sign establishments, I've also done CIM. Ultimately, it's up to the girl, regardless of venue. You may be able to CIM with one girl, go back to the same place the next day and another girl won't even do BBBJ.
Last night I have visited Club Paris at the address 96, Granville Road, 3/F., Hilton Tower, Tsim Sha Tsui East, Kowloon, Hong Kong with one of my friends around 1 o'clock. It's kind of a karaoke club. After we have sat on the separated sofas and got some information about the scene, we have been invited to a small room which is enough for about 6 people. There we have been told that one hour to spend in the room costs for HK$2,500 for two plus the drinks, and to take the two girls away for one hour to the hotels which we stay in, costs HK$3,000. We asked if it is possible to spend two hours with the girls instead of staying at the club. The woman manager whose name is Coffee agreed that and sent us two girls who are guite fit. We asked if we have any chance to select among more girls, but they claimed that the other girls do not want to go out with foreigners, but they prefer the locals instead. Since the girls were acceptable(nick name of my friend's girl is Linda and my girl is Yo yo-who claimed that her real girl is Tan Bin), we accepted them, stayed there for a while and drank our beers until the girls dressed up casually instead of their mini skirts, then they came in and we made some conversation with them before leaving the premises. They were keen to kiss deeply, and when I asked Yo yo if DATY was possible, she said yes. We left for our hotels after 10-15 minutes. We were staying at the hotels close to each other and to the club(3-5 minutes by walking), namely Intercontinental Stanford and Shangri-La which are on Mody Road and both are girl friendly. After Yo yo and me went into room we have had some drinks and talked for a while, then kissed deeply and cuddled each other. After a while, we got undressed, took a shower together(actually she washed me thoroughly after she washed herself and we made some preparation in bathroom) and then started to do our job. She was nice, has good sensitive tits, and tight small body. After some time she wanted to finish it by putting up a condom onto my willy. During the intercourse, I performed DATY on her sweeet smelling p..sy, and f..ked her in several positions, and I finished in missioner position. After we spent some time by kissing and cuddling each other she asked permission for two minutes in order to get a shower, and after she came back I went to the bathroom to take a shower. When I came back into the room, I saw her dressed up, and asked her why she dressed up although we have almost one more hour to go. She said that I can ask to the club and get confirmation that the deal is over after one shot, whether it is performed within 5 minutes or two hours. I discussed a while with her that her approach was not fair, but I paid her HK$1,500 and let her to leave. The lesson from this is either you should bargain every detail in advance, or better to stay away from this club. Total damage was HK$2,750 for almost half an hour at the club, plus one hour at the hotel for one shot.
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I will be in Wanchai for 4 hours.
Does anyone know the names and addresses of any hourly hotels in Wanchai?
Thanks in advance,
Sveta007
[QUOTE=Aynak]Last night I have visited Club Paris at the address 96, Granville Road, 3/F., Hilton Tower, Tsim Sha Tsui East, Kowloon, Hong Kong with one of my friends around 1 o'clock. It's kind of a karaoke club. After we have sat on the separated sofas and got some information about the scene, we have been invited to a small room which is enough for about 6 people. There we have been told that one hour to spend in the room costs for HK$2,500 for two plus the drinks, and to take the two girls away for one hour to the hotels which we stay in, costs HK$3,000. We asked if it is possible to spend two hours with the girls instead of staying at the club. The woman manager whose name is Coffee agreed that and sent us two girls who are guite fit. We asked if we have any chance to select among more girls, but they claimed that the other girls do not want to go out with foreigners, but they prefer the locals instead. Since the girls were acceptable(nick name of my friend's girl is Linda and my girl is Yo yo-who claimed that her real girl is Tan Bin), we accepted them, stayed there for a while and drank our beers until the girls dressed up casually instead of their mini skirts, then they came in and we made some conversation with them before leaving the premises. They were keen to kiss deeply, and when I asked Yo yo if DATY was possible, she said yes. We left for our hotels after 10-15 minutes. We were staying at the hotels close to each other and to the club(3-5 minutes by walking), namely Intercontinental Stanford and Shangri-La which are on Mody Road and both are girl friendly. After Yo yo and me went into room we have had some drinks and talked for a while, then kissed deeply and cuddled each other. After a while, we got undressed, took a shower together(actually she washed me thoroughly after she washed herself and we made some preparation in bathroom) and then started to do our job. She was nice, has good sensitive tits, and tight small body. After some time she wanted to finish it by putting up a condom onto my willy. During the intercourse, I performed DATY on her sweeet smelling p..sy, and f..ked her in several positions, and I finished in missioner position. After we spent some time by kissing and cuddling each other she asked permission for two minutes in order to get a shower, and after she came back I went to the bathroom to take a shower. When I came back into the room, I saw her dressed up, and asked her why she dressed up although we have almost one more hour to go. She said that I can ask to the club and get confirmation that the deal is over after one shot, whether it is performed within 5 minutes or two hours. I discussed a while with her that her approach was not fair, but I paid her HK$1,500 and let her to leave. The lesson from this is either you should bargain every detail in advance, or better to stay away from this club. Total damage was HK$2,750 for almost half an hour at the club, plus one hour at the hotel for one shot.
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$3000 was for two girls take out or per one girl? Price should be $1500 per girl.
[QUOTE=Sveta007]I will be in Wanchai for 4 hours.
Does anyone know the names and addresses of any hourly hotels in Wanchai?
Thanks in advance,
Sveta007[/QUOTE]To quote Beijing Lover's post to me: "Try Ming Court on Lockhart Road. Price is 150 or 160 per 90 minutes."
[QUOTE=Aynak]Last night I have visited Club Paris at the address 96, Granville Road, 3/F., Hilton Tower, Tsim Sha Tsui East, Kowloon, Hong Kong with one of my friends around 1 o'clock. It's kind of a karaoke club. After we have sat on the separated sofas and got some information about the scene, we have been invited to a small room which is enough for about 6 people. There we have been told that one hour to spend in the room costs for HK$2,500 for two plus the drinks, and to take the two girls away for one hour to the hotels which we stay in, costs HK$3,000. We asked if it is possible to spend two hours with the girls instead of staying at the club. The woman manager whose name is Coffee agreed that and sent us two girls who are guite fit. We asked if we have any chance to select among more girls, but they claimed that the other girls do not want to go out with foreigners, but they prefer the locals instead. Since the girls were acceptable(nick name of my friend's girl is Linda and my girl is Yo yo-who claimed that her real girl is Tan Bin), we accepted them, stayed there for a while and drank our beers until the girls dressed up casually instead of their mini skirts, then they came in and we made some conversation with them before leaving the premises. They were keen to kiss deeply, and when I asked Yo yo if DATY was possible, she said yes. We left for our hotels after 10-15 minutes. We were staying at the hotels close to each other and to the club(3-5 minutes by walking), namely Intercontinental Stanford and Shangri-La which are on Mody Road and both are girl friendly. After Yo yo and me went into room we have had some drinks and talked for a while, then kissed deeply and cuddled each other. After a while, we got undressed, took a shower together(actually she washed me thoroughly after she washed herself and we made some preparation in bathroom) and then started to do our job. She was nice, has good sensitive tits, and tight small body. After some time she wanted to finish it by putting up a condom onto my willy. During the intercourse, I performed DATY on her sweeet smelling p..sy, and f..ked her in several positions, and I finished in missioner position. After we spent some time by kissing and cuddling each other she asked permission for two minutes in order to get a shower, and after she came back I went to the bathroom to take a shower. When I came back into the room, I saw her dressed up, and asked her why she dressed up although we have almost one more hour to go. She said that I can ask to the club and get confirmation that the deal is over after one shot, whether it is performed within 5 minutes or two hours. I discussed a while with her that her approach was not fair, but I paid her HK$1,500 and let her to leave. The lesson from this is either you should bargain every detail in advance, or better to stay away from this club. Total damage was HK$2,750 for almost half an hour at the club, plus one hour at the hotel for one shot.
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The only chance that you have of getting value for money is to try and negotiate with the girl to meet you outside the club and come with you, that way you don't pay the club anything, but she gets her money and the mamasan will be taking a cut, but the bar gets nothing.
Genarally I'd say STAY AWAY.
The mamasan: Was she good looking, long hair, slim?
[QUOTE=Okinomi]This should send a mesage to everyone, stay away from the karaoke bars and clubs, they have never given good value in the 12 years that I have been here and I have never heard of anyone who has spoken highly of them unless they were being paid for by a local businessman on expenses.
The only chance that you have of getting value for money is to try and negotiate with the girl to meet you outside the club and come with you, that way you don't pay the club anything, but she gets her money and the mamasan will be taking a cut, but the bar gets nothing.
Genarally I'd say STAY AWAY.[/QUOTE]
Hi Okinomi
Does this advice include clubs such as Fenwicks and Neptune?
[QUOTE=The Voice]Hi Okinomi
Does this advice include clubs such as Fenwicks and Neptune?[/QUOTE]
I don't think he was referring to those two infamous establishments as clubs.
[QUOTE=Aynak] There we have been told that one hour to spend in the room costs for HK$2,500 for two plus the drinks, and to take the two girls away for one hour to the hotels which we stay in, costs HK$3,000. [/QUOTE]Yellow sign? I've got one right next to the Metropole and the service is fantastic. helps if you speak Mandarin / Cantonese, but they'll welcome you.
I've lurked at ISG for a while, and this is my first field report, but I'm no novice to mongering in the States. It really pays to read the forums, as a little research can go a long way.
Business provided me the opportunity to spend a day in Kowloon. I had less than 48 hours notice, but I browsed the Hong Kong forums of ISG for the first time and slowly started reading up on where to go and what to do. Prior to this forum, I had no idea that prostitution was even legal over there, that's how uninformed I was. BTW, if it matters I'm an Asian American who can't speak a lick of Chinese, but at least I look the part.
It took me a while to figure out what ******.com was. The website is mentioned a lot on the forum, but the filter bleeps out the website name. Eventually, I found a link to an article on here that mentioned the site. I clicked on the original article to see the website name uncensored, and then went there for the first time. OMG, it's like McDonalds, but instead of food, it's a picture menu of women, apartment buildings, and pricing. Between ******.com, ISG, centamap.com (link is in distinguished reports), and a physical map of the town from a hotel, you have all the tools you need. I spent a night researching and writing down info for ****** girls and where to go, then headed out late at night.
First spot I hit was a topless bar on Nathan Road. It has a big sign with women on it and is right next to Hariela Mansion. Me, not knowing any better, went in intrigued by the thought of a topless bar in HK. It was my first time in the country, so might as well see what one is like, right?
I sat down at the bar and Angel walks over to me. Short Thai girl with huge jugs, 38E's. I'd never been with a Thai girl before, but I'd never seen one like this. We went to the couch for some privacy. I get a beer, and pay for one of her drinks. Her friends want to join us, but I decline. On the couch, she smothers my face with the twins, grabbing my hand and putting it on her ass. She's shaved BTW, which I'm a fan of. She says she should leave the bar and go home with me. Cost for that is $2100 (Hong Kong dollars) for the bar fine. I say I'm not spending more than $1500. Mama-san comes over. Bargaining ensues. Mamasan leaves. Finally Angel says, "OK $1500. " She leaves to change her clothes. Mamasan returns and agrees to the $1500 barfine. Then she says, "You pay the girl another $1500 too, right? " At this point, I pull out the calculator, and figure out I'm about to spend $500 to be with one girl. I start thinking with the bigger head and bail, telling mama-san that's too much upsell. I pay the $400 bill for 3 drinks (1 beer, 2 drinks for her). A bit much to grope a girl for 10 mins, but I chalk it up to a learning experience. Thank god I didn't go through with it.
Next morning, I head out in search of adventure. I take the subway to Mongkok, hoping to find 8 Mongkok, but the directions from this website were based off of walking out of a specific exit on the subway (for first timers, there are multiple exits at each subway stop, so take notice of that). I didn't realize this until it was too late, so no 8 Mongkok for me. I search for the King Hing building. Unfortunately, I couldn't find it. I wandered up and down Argyle St. On both sides, but the numbers never added up to 52-54. If you're shopping for a 141 girl, expect a certain amount of 'where the hell is it? ! ' if you're not a native.
Unperturbed, I made my way to 37 Dundas, Mans Paradise. By now it's like 11:30 am. This is like a karaoke bar, which had received postive posts on ISG. I walk in and wait for the girl selection. Mama-san comes back with two girls. Neither is particularly attractive, so I decline. She says, "That's all we have. " I get up to leave, then she says, "Wait wait wait. " She comes back minutes later and says, "You wait 10 minutes? Then another girl ready. " I told her sorry and left.
Just down the street was Dun Tak Mansion. I head up the seediest stairways in my life, looking for Carol on the 4th floor. Where I think her apt is, there is a ripped sticker of ******.com, but there is no number on the apt, so I am not even sure I am in the right place. I head up one more floor, looking for Manman. At last! Success! I see a ******.com sign on her door and ring the doorbell. It's about noon now.
She answers and lets me in. She realizes I don't speak Cantonese, but it doesn't bother her. I must be her first client of the day, as she is still in her nighty and waking up. She's tidying up the room and checking a newspaper as I strip down. She offers me the shower, which I'm surprised to find is in her 3x3 foot bathroom. It's a faucet with a rubber tube, not 1 foot from the toilet.coming from America, this is a major culture shock. I shower, dry off, walk out, and she says, "Massage? " I nod and receive a pretty terrible hand massage for 20 minutes. When she gets closer to Junior, I start making noises of encouragement. She gets the idea. Who needs language? Some things are universal.
She strips naked, and I am completely turned off by a huge C-section scar on her stomach. She has a nice rack, 36C's, but her face is a bit old for my taste. Needless to say, I'm not very turned on. Neither is she, as she had to go for the lube before I entered. I'm still up for it, as it had been about a month since my last time (damn work kept me away from home all that time). Unfortunately, I blew it. I came almost right away. She goes to the bathroom to wash up, and hocks up some phlegm in her throat (wasn't from me). Total damage was $400 + a $60 tip. That's pretty damn affordable, but it was nothing more than a soulless business transaction.
I take off, grab lunch, then decide to look for more. I find Hariela Mansion and head to the elevator. There's a girl in there with me, and she hits the 11 button before I do. As we exit the elevator together, I'm reading the signs in the hallway and trying to find my way, then realize we're both going to the same room. Oh Hi, you must be Yuki. Mind if I come in and fuck you? She's fine with it, and has a cheerful, bubbly personality. She doesn't speak any English, but hey that's fine. I don't speak any Cantonese, so we're even. She points to the massage table and I nod. Then she points to the bed, and I nod more vigorously. She laughs and makes the motion of her index finger going into the hole of her other hand. You can read minds too? God, I love you. How do you say, "I love you" in caveman speak? It doesn't matter, because now we're in the shower of her tiny bathroom. At least this one has a showerhead instead of a rubber tube. Friendly rubbing ensues. I have a good feeling about this one.
This girl has a dynamite body. I'd say a 9. She's a spinner, maybe 5'3" <100 lbs with large natural breasts 36C. Flat Asian ass, but just enough to grab onto. Her stomach was perfectly flat, and a major turn on, especially after my last experience 2 hours earlier. Her face is average, maybe a 7. Not that it's bad, but compared to the rest of her, it doesn't rank as highly. Her attitude is perfect. Always laughing, enthusiastic, and friendly.
We go to her bed and the fun begins. We start rubbing each other, and she is getting turned on. No lube needed for this one, she was ready. And boy was she tight. I'm talking not since my 5'0" tall g/f in high school have I been with a girl like this. CBJ, CG, doggy, mish. I lose track after a while. All I know is we're both having a great time. She is crying out "Shifu! " constantly. I don't know who Shifu is, but he must fuck pretty well because that's what she kept whimpering. Eventually, I blow my load and collapse on the bed. She goes to the bathroom and does that hocking up a loogie thing that the other girl did. I never see girls do that in America. Are 141 girls hooked on chew or something?
Yuki comes back, turns on a CD of American sappy love songs, and then starts massaging me. This is living! Getting the massage after the deed, especially after a long session like that. I was in heaven. Then I noticed she was mostly massaging my inner thighs. You know where this is leading. Junior was waking up again, and Yuki laughed and was like, "Are you sure? " Silly question. We agree to 900 for two pops.
So we 69, and I dive into that hairy natural bush. I'm typically not a fan of muff diving in a rainforest, but she wasn't as bad as others I've been with. We go at it for about 10 mins in this position, and she is shivering from the waves of convulsions. I'm pretty sure that was real. If not, she deserves an Oscar for all that shaking. From there she transitions to a CBJ into this wierd position where I'm on my back, and she is between my legs, like she's the guy and I'm the girl, and she's pumping away while riding me. We go through another round of positions, such as sideways scissors and some I don't even know the name of. As I'm ready to unload, I'm hoping for a facial, but I blow the timing and pop too early. It lands on her stomach, but she didn't care. The Russian judge would have given me a 4 for the poor timing on the dismount.
Now we're both tired, so we lie next to each other. She starts massaging me, and I reciprocate, which I guess she is not used to. After a while, her hands wander, and Junior is ready to make a final stand. She is like, "Are you serious? " then starts stroking him. Her strokes get a little more vigourous, and as he responds she decides to go for it. She grabs some lotion, sits in RCG and starts bouncing up and down on me and making noise like we're two newlyweds.
Unfortunately for her, I don't blow easily from a HJ or BJ (usually takes me about 15-20 mins). 10 minutes and 3 positions later, she is still pumping away, and she looks at me and asks whether she should stop. To be honest, I could have had that third pop if I really wanted to. She had good technique, and she started fingering me, which was driving me over the edge. It was just a matter of her holding out for that extra 5-10 mins. I didn't feel like going into the whole, "You're doing great. It's not you, it's me. Just give me 10 more mins of RCG fingering like we're fucking and I'll be good to go" in caveman sign language, so I agreed we should stop. She was completely enthusiastic about the 3 pops though, and in a way so was I. However, I was somewhat scared I would have a heart attack after 4 pops in as many hours. I'm over 30, so not quite the young stud I was back at 18.
I end up giving her $960 (about $135 US), which was all I had left, and she seemed happy with it. If I'd had more, I would have given it to her. Two hour session, and she didn't even look at the clock once. No crappy pseudo-massage either. The only massaging going on was post coitus, when it was actually relaxing. She had a great body, attitude, and service. In all my mongering, this experience ranked in the top 3, and I've had PSE's and threesomes, so that's saying a lot. A 141 girl may not be for everybody, but when you hit it off, it's amazing, and the price and selection can't be beat. The only reason I am going into detail about this and not keeping it as my little secret is because I know I will never see her again. She tried to give me her phone number and e-mail because she wanted to see me again, but I had to decline, because I knew I would be leaving the country the next day. Treat her well, boys, and thank you ISG for making it all possible!
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Hello Mate,
I will be going HK soon.
May I know where can I find Viet, Thai girls for happy beside ******.COM where all are mainly china or hk girls?
If you thought Wanchai was bad enough last w/e, it's even worse this one with the Nimitz and a raft of epsilon minus Septics in town.
Altho having said that, maybe we shd send em to check on the girls in the NT on the miss 148 site. Like Annie in Tsuen Wan, who's very nice, they are all listed as being in the 'New Territorist'. Here's where Annie is (and I quote from miss 148):
Annie --
"Address Rm B, 4/F, Cheuk Ming Building, Tsuen Wan Market Street, Tsuen Wan, New Territorist"
Mebbe Bush needs to come to shove and our dear Septic friends can go and sort em all out ...
JS
I'm almost afraid to ask what "epsilon minus" means in the Queen's English.
[QUOTE=John Smart]If you thought Wanchai was bad enough last w/e, it's even worse this one with the Nimitz and a raft of epsilon minus Septics in town.
Altho having said that, maybe we shd send em to check on the girls in the NT on the miss 148 site. Like Annie in Tsuen Wan, who's very nice, they are all listed as being in the 'New Territorist'. Here's where Annie is (and I quote from miss 148):
Annie --
"Address Rm B, 4/F, Cheuk Ming Building, Tsuen Wan Market Street, Tsuen Wan, New Territorist"
Mebbe Bush needs to come to shove and our dear Septic friends can go and sort em all out ...
JS[/QUOTE]
I believe the Epsilon Minus is a reference to the Aldous Huxley novel "Brave New World." In the novel, the Epsilons were the lowest rank of society, basically slaves, and were brutish gorilla types used for grunt work.
Hi,
I have not been to Hong Kong since 1989 but know but know I'm taking wife and two kids on a one month backpacking trip to south-east Asia (like being 20 again)...anyway we will have 2-3 day stop over in Hong Kong. I hope I will be able to sneak out for a quick pop :-) with a nice young Asian girl. It is not easy to find reasonable priced quality Asians in UK, Germany, Scandinavia, Spain, US east coast etc.
Therefore, suggestions appreciated on:
• Hotels close to the “Yellow sign” places e.g. 37 Dundas or 8 Mong Kok, which makes it possible to go on a 1 hour walk or electronic shopping tour
• It also important that these hotels accept 4 people (since I can’t leave one of the kids alone if we have to stay in two rooms). I’m a bit of a night person so it is normal that stay up 2-3 hours longer than the rest of the family
Or should I plan this in a another way?
Thanks in advance,
Peter
Hi guys,
I am new to this board and can say that its unbeliveble resource for p4p information. I will be in Hong Kong later in the month and would like to know if there good quailty latin girls available there. I saw a few last year and was wondering if there are still available.
Thanks in advance
[QUOTE=Peterkn]Hi,
I have not been to Hong Kong since 1989 but know but know I'm taking wife and two kids on a one month backpacking trip to south-east Asia (like being 20 again)...anyway we will have 2-3 day stop over in Hong Kong. I hope I will be able to sneak out for a quick pop :-) with a nice young Asian girl. It is not easy to find reasonable priced quality Asians in UK, Germany, Scandinavia, Spain, US east coast etc.
Therefore, suggestions appreciated on:
• Hotels close to the “Yellow sign” places e.g. 37 Dundas or 8 Mong Kok, which makes it possible to go on a 1 hour walk or electronic shopping tour
• It also important that these hotels accept 4 people (since I can’t leave one of the kids alone if we have to stay in two rooms). I’m a bit of a night person so it is normal that stay up 2-3 hours longer than the rest of the family
Or should I plan this in a another way?
Thanks in advance,
Peter[/QUOTE]
Try Langham Hotel or Metropark Hotel both are in Mong Kok.
All the electrical shops, computer, night market on Tung Choi Street etc. , stay open until at least 10. 00 pm. And it id easy to " get lost " inn the maze of streets. Definitly the norm for you to stay up late. There are also snacks stands open until 2 or 3 am so can get a curry flavoured snack to hide that " love hotel soap " smell!
[QUOTE=Peterkn]Hi,
I have not been to Hong Kong since 1989 but know but know I'm taking wife and two kids on a one month backpacking trip to south-east Asia (like being 20 again)...anyway we will have 2-3 day stop over in Hong Kong. I hope I will be able to sneak out for a quick pop :-) with a nice young Asian girl. It is not easy to find reasonable priced quality Asians in UK, Germany, Scandinavia, Spain, US east coast etc.
Therefore, suggestions appreciated on:
• Hotels close to the “Yellow sign” places e.g. 37 Dundas or 8 Mong Kok, which makes it possible to go on a 1 hour walk or electronic shopping tour
• It also important that these hotels accept 4 people (since I can’t leave one of the kids alone if we have to stay in two rooms). I’m a bit of a night person so it is normal that stay up 2-3 hours longer than the rest of the family
Or should I plan this in a another way?
Thanks in advance,
Peter[/QUOTE]
Are there just Chinese girls at this club? Any other nationalities?
[QUOTE=Aynak]Last night I have visited Club Paris at the address 96, Granville Road, 3/F., Hilton Tower, Tsim Sha Tsui East, Kowloon, Hong Kong
[QUOTE=Lolly Lover]Hi guys,
I am new to this board and can say that its unbeliveble resource for p4p information. I will be in Hong Kong later in the month and would like to know if there good quailty latin girls available there. I saw a few last year and was wondering if there are still available.
Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]
You should be able to find some in Fenwicks in Wanchai
I am sure much of the following has been written over an over but here is a short summary of places I checked out
Hari's Bar - Holiday Inn Golden Mile - TST
Heavy presence of "Russian" talent, Mongolian, Mainland Chinese and Pinoy talent. Mostly "older" stock late twenties early thirties. Band is good and easy on the ear.
Sticky Fingers - TST
If you like loud ear-shattering music where you must shout to speak to your partner this is the place for you. Talent on the 5-6 range
141 "option"
The Hotel reservation girls are available to come to your hotel room - HKD100 will be added to the charges posted on the web. When you call, mostly you will receive a non-English speaker or one that know only a few words. Be patient and try other numbers, you can find someone that you will be able to communicate with you. Last week I "ordered" three girls. One for two hours was good - the goal of the two I ordered for one hour was to get it done as soon as possible. Remember - their task is "volume" - get in, get it done, get out. Overall this is not a good value. Be careful since the bait and switch game is strong here.
Paris Club
If you want Chinese talent that does speak English this is the place to go BUT it will cost you. Since their job depends on it, as has been written, they will perform and give you that GFE "feeling".
Wanchai
The best value by far would be the clubs in Wanchai like Neptune and Fenwicks. Last week I found a wonderful Thai spinner all of 40kg that I kept for three nights. Avoid the "girlie" clubs at all costs.
Unfortunately with the recent Rubgy matches and lasts week's visit by the Navy, these clubs were packed.
[QUOTE=Qwerty On88]All the electrical shops, computer, night market on Tung Choi Street etc. , stay open until at least 10. 00 pm. And it id easy to " get lost " inn the maze of streets. Definitly the norm for you to stay up late. There are also snacks stands open until 2 or 3 am so can get a curry flavoured snack to hide that " love hotel soap " smell![/QUOTE]Thanks Qwerty On88 and Hongkong Boy for these suggestions on where to stay and how to hide an hour of fun!
[QUOTE=Firebird]Wanchai,
The best value by far would be the clubs in Wanchai like Neptune and Fenwicks. Last week I found a wonderful Thai spinner all of 40kg that I kept for three nights. Avoid the "girlie" clubs at all costs.
Unfortunately with the recent Rubgy matches and lasts week's visit by the Navy, these clubs were packed.[/QUOTE]Firebird,
Thanks for the report.
Odd (or not) question for the folks here. I'll be traveling through HK in a couple of months and have some flexibility on the exact dates. Fenwick's is on my short list (along with some of the Macau saunas) and I want to avoid being there when the Navy is in port. Is there public info on Navy port of call schedules?
Thanks,
EB
[QUOTE=Firebird]I am sure much of the following has been written over an over but here is a short summary of places I checked out
Hari's Bar - Holiday Inn Golden Mile - TST
Heavy presence of "Russian" talent, Mongolian, Mainland Chinese and Pinoy talent. Mostly "older" stock late twenties early thirties. Band is good and easy on the ear.
Sticky Fingers - TST
If you like loud ear-shattering music where you must shout to speak to your partner this is the place for you. Talent on the 5-6 range
141 "option"
The Hotel reservation girls are available to come to your hotel room - HKD100 will be added to the charges posted on the web. When you call, mostly you will receive a non-English speaker or one that know only a few words. Be patient and try other numbers, you can find someone that you will be able to communicate with you. Last week I "ordered" three girls. One for two hours was good - the goal of the two I ordered for one hour was to get it done as soon as possible. Remember - their task is "volume" - get in, get it done, get out. Overall this is not a good value. Be careful since the bait and switch game is strong here.
Paris Club
If you want Chinese talent that does speak English this is the place to go BUT it will cost you. Since their job depends on it, as has been written, they will perform and give you that GFE "feeling".
Wanchai
The best value by far would be the clubs in Wanchai like Neptune and Fenwicks. Last week I found a wonderful Thai spinner all of 40kg that I kept for three nights. Avoid the "girlie" clubs at all costs.
Unfortunately with the recent Rubgy matches and lasts week's visit by the Navy, these clubs were packed.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by "girlie" clubs? what type of clubs to avoid?
I want to avoid being there when the Navy is in port. Is there public info on Navy port of call schedules?
Sorry, cannot help you with this one - unless you know someone who has the "hot line" to the Admiral.
[QUOTE=Timewaster]What do you mean by "girlie" clubs? what type of clubs to avoid?[/QUOTE]
You will know these clubs. You will pass scantily clad girls with mini-skirts size of belts and the mamasans trying to pull you into the club for you to purchase an overpriced beer. Once you are in, your are LOST...so stay OUT unless you have $$$ to "burn"
Well, I had a last day in Hong Kong and stayed at The Holiday Inn Golden Mile on Nathan Rd. 'cuz I had to get an early flight and wanted to take the bus early in the morning so I only had to pay $33.00 HKD, rather than $80.00 HKD using the Airport Express. After check-in and going to my room, I decided to pay an early afternoon visit to TST Sauna across the street. I always wanted to try the place.
Some monger on this board a long while back said there was a pool inside the place. Well, there wasn't. Man, I can't stand it when people lie or exaggerate (unless there was one and it was no longer used). The place was really clean, but there was no pool. Just a shower section, a sauna, a steam room (which was cool) and then a small lounge, a long corridor for massage rooms and quite pretty girls. Had I known there wasn't a pool, I would have jumped down to Noble Sauna instead or popped on the Ferry and back to Macau.
It would be great if someone knows which saunas in Hong Kong have pools and special services and which ones don't.
After I used the facilities, the manager asked me what I wanted. I said, I'll pay for the full boat, but I don't want "ML", but want the girl naked. They only had 2 options. The $786 HKD ML option and a $586 HKD HJ option. I went with the $786 HKD option. When the guy got my orange juice, this girl behind the counter gets a straw and when she's about to put it in the glass, he takes it away and she just stands there holding the straw over the counter. HEY! WE HAVE A WINNER!
The massage girl was really a pretty one. Skinny model material, cute face and decent massage skills. I'd give her an 8.5 in looks. Really hot. She was from Hong Kong and spoke decent English. She kept breathing like she was Michael Myers from "Halloween 2" however, and that gave me the chills. Only to find out 75% into the massage she has a cold. And with reports of the flu going around, I was then shitting bricks! But before I knew that, she gave me a super ball massage, boy I should have just had her do that. On turn over time, she tried too hard, not much sexual emphasis unlike just before. But still good enough in the end, I'm sure it will satisfy you blokes.
After I left, back into the steam room and shower to kill off anything. I never got sick, so I lucked out, she may have been at the after stage recovering. Gee wiz. It's not a bad place, but Noble Sauna with the larger facilities is my choice over TST Sauna. Now if I could get saunas like those in Macau to be in Hong Kong, let me know!
Gyaos.
[QUOTE=Gyaos]
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It would be great if someone knows which saunas in Hong Kong have pools and special services and which ones don't.
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Gyaos.[/QUOTE]You already know about Noble Sauna. Carnival in North Point has a very nice pool (it has recently re-opened! ) which is nicer than Noble IMO. Sun Hot Sauna in East TST has one as well, though I think that there have been recent reports about Sun Hot going "veggie" (ie. No happy ending). Another place in Jordan (directly behind National Court. Directly across from the car park entrance if I remember correctly) has a tiny pool, more like a hot tub really (sorry can't remember the name, Queen Sauna I think).
Other saunas which I've tried which do NOT have pools. Ocean King in North Point, Blue Sky in Causeway Bay.
[QUOTE=Firebird]You should be able to find some in Fenwicks in Wanchai[/QUOTE]
Fenwicks has a bunch, but watch out for some of the Colombian girls. I hear, although I do not know for sure, that they also deal Coke. Someone also told me that Fenwicks was shut down for a day to clean up the Coke trade from the Colombians. Do not know if this is accurate or not, just beware.
I have taken several Colombian girls and never had a problem.
Forcejam,
Hong Kong is not the place if you want viet girls. Macau is Viet heaven. they have shops lined up with 30 or more each place for you to choose. I forgot the last shop i went to, but they hand out those business cards all the time, jsut say viet girls available and they'll point you to the right direction.
MACAU is 1 hour 15 minutes by boat.
Good luck
[QUOTE=Forcejam]Hello Mate,
I will be going HK soon.
May I know where can I find Viet, Thai girls for happy beside ******.COM where all are mainly china or hk girls?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Neuromancer]You already know about Noble Sauna. Carnival in North Point has a very nice pool (it has recently re-opened! ) which is nicer than Noble IMO. Sun Hot Sauna in East TST has one as well, though I think that there have been recent reports about Sun Hot going "veggie" (ie. No happy ending). [/QUOTE]
Yes, that's right. I was going to go to Sun Hot, but I read the report they bellied up and didn't go there. Thanks for the Carnival recommendation, will try that next time (unless I'm just stuck in Macau as that place is getting super).
Gyaos.
Hi guys,
Thanks a lot for all your pictures and report I was wondering if anyone could help me here?
I would like to know where is the best place to meet with Filipino, Thai, Indonesian girl on a week day afternoon?
This may seem like a DUH!, but does anyone know about short term visas issues if one is traveling through HK with an overnight layover. I am dreading 14hrs in the HK airport, and having one of the great pussy resources go to waste.
How about a short time mongering VISA eh?:=)
Please contribute any info.
Cheers
Hummer Bird
Where you from? As far as I know, Americans don't need visas in HK, I assume it's the same for the EU, Australia, NZ, UK, etc but I would guess that many third world countries need visas. [QUOTE=Hummer Bird]This may seem like a DUH!, but does anyone know about short term visas issues if one is traveling through HK with an overnight layover. I am dreading 14hrs in the HK airport, and having one of the great pussy resources go to waste.
How about a short time mongering VISA eh?:=)
Please contribute any info.
Cheers
Hummer Bird[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Benjao]Hi guys,
Thanks a lot for all your pictures and report I was wondering if anyone could help me here?
I would like to know where is the best place to meet with Filipino, Thai, Indonesian girl on a week day afternoon?[/QUOTE]
Try World Wide House in Central.
There is a shopping mall on the 1st floor that is full of filipinas during all day.
The best choice is to seat at Delifrance and make eye contact with them.
[QUOTE=Benjao]I would like to know where is the best place to meet with Filipino, Thai, Indonesian girl on a week day afternoon?[/QUOTE]
For Indos, go to Victoria Park in Causeway Bay. That's the location of choice for Indonesian maids to hang out on their day off.
[QUOTE=Hummer Bird] I am dreading 14hrs in the HK airport, and having one of the great pussy resources go to waste.
Hummer Bird[/QUOTE]
My vote would be a sauna trip to Macau - go to Macau sauna review thread for more details. Perfect venue for 14 hrs - wash up, get massage, eat,relax, fuck, sleep, eat, fuck some more, wash up and back to airport.....;) Total cost equal to one night in HK hotel!
[QUOTE=Scribe]For Indos, go to Victoria Park in Causeway Bay. That's the location of choice for Indonesian maids to hang out on their day off.[/QUOTE]
I usually stay at Park Lane Hotel, right next to the Park. On Sunday both the Park and good part of Causeway Bay near the MTR/Park Lane area is jammed packed with maids - twosomes and threesomes probably available if you're up for it!
Most of the passports can get at least 14 days tourist stay permit on arrival in HK. Even most third world country passports are under this category as HK does not have Embassies outside. For more details see
[QUOTE]immd.gov.hk/ehtml/hkvisas_4.htm[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hummer Bird]This may seem like a DUH!, but does anyone know about short term visas issues if one is traveling through HK with an overnight layover. I am dreading 14hrs in the HK airport, and having one of the great pussy resources go to waste.
How about a short time mongering VISA eh?:=)
Please contribute any info.
Cheers
Hummer Bird[/QUOTE]
Can anyone recommend a hotel close to the Hong Kong Macau Ferry Terminal, Sheung Wan?
I will be arriving late in the evening and want to catch an early morning ferry out.
[QUOTE=Lobo220]Can anyone recommend a hotel close to the Hong Kong Macau Ferry Terminal, Sheung Wan? I will be arriving late in the evening and want to catch an early morning ferry out.[/QUOTE]
You can get the ferry to Macau before HKG immigration at Chep Lap Kok (duh, that's Hong Kong International Airport). Talk to your airline about how that can be done. Info is also at HKGs own website too.
Gyaos.
[QUOTE=Gyaos]You can get the ferry to Macau before HKG immigration at Chep Lap Kok (duh, that's Hong Kong International Airport). Talk to your airline about how that can be done. Info is also at HKGs own website too.
Gyaos.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply but I arrive after the last ferry of the night. As a result I have to stay overnite in HK and catch the ferry in the morning.
[QUOTE=Neuromancer]You already know about Noble Sauna. Carnival in North Point has a very nice pool (it has recently re-opened! ) which is nicer than Noble IMO. Sun Hot Sauna in East TST has one as well, though I think that there have been recent reports about Sun Hot going "veggie" (ie. No happy ending). Another place in Jordan (directly behind National Court. Directly across from the car park entrance if I remember correctly) has a tiny pool, more like a hot tub really (sorry can't remember the name, Queen Sauna I think).
Other saunas which I've tried which do NOT have pools. Ocean King in North Point, Blue Sky in Causeway Bay.[/QUOTE]Carnival is very nice with good pool. No full service but good CBJ/HJ.
Sun Hot has pool but very "veggie" now.
Ocean King no pool but I had good "Full body massage" in fact when I was asked if I wanted full body massage the provider nearly fell over herself thanking me for requesting! Sorry, no detail but she was one of 2 I saw and both were an 8 IMHO.
[QUOTE=Lobo220]Can anyone recommend a hotel close to the Hong Kong Macau Ferry Terminal, Sheung Wan?
I will be arriving late in the evening and want to catch an early morning ferry out.[/QUOTE]
If you arrive very late, there are no direct ferries from the airport.
If you make it to Sheung Wan, I believe there are ferries around the clock. No need to stay in HK. My vote would be to get to Macau and have fun right away. Check into a hotel or sauna in Macau instead. I often just stay in the casino and give them all my money (but that is another story altogether)!
Have fun.
On a Sunday you should go in the New Makati Club in Wanchai. from 2 p.m. until evening it is packed with all kind of maids celebrating their day off. i picked up several of them for free in the past. Good Luck!
[QUOTE=Benjao]Hi guys,
Thanks a lot for all your pictures and report I was wondering if anyone could help me here?
I would like to know where is the best place to meet with Filipino, Thai, Indonesian girl on a week day afternoon?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lobo220]Thanks for your reply but I arrive after the last ferry of the night. As a result I have to stay overnite in HK and catch the ferry in the morning.[/QUOTE]
Ferries SheungWan- Macau runs 24/7
SEAJ
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Ferries SheungWan- Macau runs 24/7
SEAJ[/QUOTE]
You can catch A11 or E21 bus to Hong Kong Island which the first stop after crossing the tunnel onto Hong Kong Island is Shun Tak ferry terminal where the ferries run just about all night but the sailings get further apart later in the night.
A11 is the Express Bus and costs $40.00 HKD. The E11 is the overnight bus and costs $22.00 HKD, but makes many more stops. So the buses also run 24/7. If you want to go quick, the Airport Express train will still be running 'til 1am, take it to Hong Kong Station, hop on the train one stop to Sheung Wan (they run 'til just before 1am), walk to the Ferry Terminal, Terbojet is 24/7. In fact, you can just stand by for the nearest time Ferry, even if you buy a ticket for a Ferry 1 hour from that time. Or take a taxi from the airport to the Ferry Terminal. They'll get you there.
A note to the board, big thanks for the S1 bus tip to the Tung Chung line! Only $3.5 HKD, small walk to the train and it's only $20.50 to Admiralty from there! Transfer from Hong Kong Station to the MTR underground was a walk, but a free transfer! It was fun!
Gyaos.
[QUOTE=Bob Builder]You can catch A11 or E21 bus to Hong Kong Island which the first stop after crossing the tunnel onto Hong Kong Island is Shun Tak ferry terminal where the ferries run just about all night but the sailings get further apart later in the night.[/QUOTE]Thanks but this doesnt work for me. I am going to Shenzhen airport and ferry service does not run 24 hours. I need to spend the night in HK and want to be close to the ferry for an early morning departure.
Airport buses are notoriously slow because of the traffic and all the traffic lights in Hong Kong.
If you are going to centra, wanchai , ferry to Macau take the train.
If you are going to your hotel in mongkok,tst onthe kowloon side take the A21 bus which goes along nathan road.
[QUOTE=Lobo220]Thanks but this doesnt work for me. I am going to Shenzhen airport and ferry service does not run 24 hours. I need to spend the night in HK and want to be close to the ferry for an early morning departure.[/QUOTE]
Cross border van service is available 24 hours at Hong Kong airport. You can go to either Shenzhen or to Shenzhen airport. Lots of hotels in SZ, don't know about hotels near SZ airport.
Cheers,
BD
[QUOTE=Eyebrow777]Firebird,
Thanks for the report.
Odd (or not) question for the folks here. I'll be traveling through HK in a couple of months and have some flexibility on the exact dates. Fenwick's is on my short list (along with some of the Macau saunas) and I want to avoid being there when the Navy is in port. Is there public info on Navy port of call schedules?
Thanks,
EB[/QUOTE]Just as a heads up from a fellow mongerer, the navy is coming late april to early May as lomg as they US doesnt boycott the olympic games and China lets them pull in.
[QUOTE=Lobo220]Thanks but this doesnt work for me. I am going to Shenzhen airport and ferry service does not run 24 hours. I need to spend the night in HK and want to be close to the ferry for an early morning departure.[/QUOTE]
You should have said you were going to Shenzen in your original post, rather than have us overindulge you with information. I recommend the Conrad at Admiralty.
Gyaos.
If you are going to shenzhen airport from HKG airport,
1. Take A 43 bus to the kcr station , sheng shui
cost - 28 RMB. time -approx 45 min.
2. Take kcr train to louhu.
cost - 20 RMB time - 3 min.
3. When you come out of louhu station go to where the buses are. There is a van going to Shenzhen airport.
cost- 20 RMB time- 45 min approx
This route is good only between 7 am to 11 pm.
[QUOTE=Lobo220]Thanks but this doesnt work for me. I am going to Shenzhen airport and ferry service does not run 24 hours. I need to spend the night in HK and want to be close to the ferry for an early morning departure.[/QUOTE]
Agree with Gyaos' sentiment, when asking for advise, please be more precise. Whatever the case, if you want to stay in Admiralty (2 MTR stops away), my personal favorite is actually the Shangri-La, right next door to Conrad. If you really want to be close to the ferry, the Mandarin Oriental (newly renoveated removing the useless balconies, walking distance) is closer and the Four Seasons is the closest (of the major hotel chains, might be some smaller ones even closer).
Since you don't seem familiar with the geography, I'll mention the obvious that SZN itself is a major city with plenty of accomodations (and entertainment). The ferry is not necessarily the best route to the airport. There have been plenty of opinions here, to each their own. Personally, my original opinion still holds true, go to Macau and party all night, then catch a ferry directly from Macau to SZN airport! Best advice ever!
[QUOTE=Sammon]
2. Take kcr train to louhu.
cost - 20 RMB time - 3 min.
[/QUOTE]
Do you mean "30" minutes from Kowloon Tong Station to LuoHu?
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Do you mean "30" minutes from Kowloon Tong Station to LuoHu?[/QUOTE]
I think he meant what he said! See part 1 of his reply.
1. Take A 43 bus to the kcr station , sheng shui
That is the last station before LuoHu and about 3 minutes ride!
APAC Man
[QUOTE=Lobo220]Can anyone recommend a hotel close to the Hong Kong Macau Ferry Terminal, Sheung Wan?
I will be arriving late in the evening and want to catch an early morning ferry out.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, there is also the ferry from TST to Shenzhen Airport. Marco Polo has two hotels close by. Ten minute walk from the hotel to the ferry.
Saves you from having to go to HK Island and try to get to the Macau ferry terminal!
I think that the closest big hotel near the Macau ferry terminal is the Island Pacific. Ok hotel, about USD100 per night, including taxes and service charges.
Cheers,
BD
[QUOTE=Benjao]Hi guys,
Thanks a lot for all your pictures and report I was wondering if anyone could help me here?
I would like to know where is the best place to meet with Filipino, Thai, Indonesian girl on a week day afternoon?[/QUOTE]What I menat was working girls where can I find those on a weekday afternoon?
If you have a fat wallet or company covered trip, try private limo (cross border van), 100us, door to door, 24/7. At the border you just hand in your passport and open the door show your face and get lasered for temperature check. 3 min stop at border, 60 min HK-SZ. That's how I roll. J/K, I'm always behind the farmers with the odd smelling veggies.
PM me I'll call you one.
HT
Jeez Lobo - will you please get with it?!
Guys here are trying their best to help you out with information - and you come back with incomplete responses and sparse information on what you really want.
In fact, all your 11 previous posts had ALL just been questions questions and more questions.
Are you saying you are arriving in HK Airport, want to check in to a hotel close to the Sheung Wan Macau Ferry piers and then go to that pier to catch the 1st ferry to the Airport in Shenzhen? (not to Macau??).
If so, the first question I have is WHY?? why would you want to spend on expensive hotel in HKG (which these days during all these conventions will run you a MINIMUM of HK$1,200 or US$150/night - whatever grade hotel!) when you could easily just hop on a bus at the HKG airport when and where you arrived at, and go to Shenzhen directly. Take a Taxi to any Hotels there - even one close to the SZ airport - and you'd not only be saving bucks but also a lot of hassles and travel time.
Anyway, please tell us what is it exactly you wanna do - otherwise, I really think you're wasting everybody's time and really taking advantage of our generally good nature/willingness to advise.
SEAJ
Hello,
I am new to this forum. I will be going to Hong Kong in May and from there to Macau and than to Shen Zhen (SheKou). I will be arriving at the Hong Kong airport around 7 ish in the evening and I am thinking that the best thing for me to do would be to go to Macau right away and try to find a place to stay there as I have heard that Hong Kong is very expensive.
Anyway, I was hoping that I could get some good advice about how to go to Macau and any other information you guys might have. I am a White American, but I speak Manderin pretty well.
Thanks a lot for any help you guys are willing to give!
More sauna reports please! :)
[QUOTE=Gyaos]More sauna reports please! :)[/QUOTE]
No problem!
As a semi-regular in the past at Ocean Dragon at Causeway Bay, last Saturday I decided to go and try out its successor in the same premises, Blue Sky Sauna. Many thinks are unchanged: the same effusive welcome, the same clean and hygienic showers and changing area, and the helpful staff. I spent half an hour relaxing with cigarettes and tea in the sitting area, and was then escorted through to the massage area, where Eva was waiting for me.
The massage rooms are also very clean, and the towels smell fresh. The massage itself was average but not incompetent in any way, and lasted about 45 minutes. Then Eva turned off the lights, tugged off my towel, and provided a few minutes of gentle erotic touching around the butt and ballsack before pausing to find out whether I wanted a simple happy ending ($88x) or FS ($1048). I opted for the latter, because she was definitely a fuckable lady.
Service was perfectly decent: CBJ, cowgirl, mish, followed by a cleanup and a few minutes alone to recoup.
Overall I'd recommend Blue Sky. It's not cheap, but it's conveniently located, very clean, and has a good service ethic.
Idler,
Thanks for that report. I tried Ocean Dragon once a while back and walk by the Blue Sky sign probably twice a week. Your report just might motivate me to give it a try one day.
Acer
[QUOTE=Idler31]No problem!
As a semi-regular in the past at Ocean Dragon at Causeway Bay, last Saturday I decided to go and try out its successor in the same premises, Blue Sky Sauna. Many thinks are unchanged: the same effusive welcome, the same clean and hygienic showers and changing area, and the helpful staff. I spent half an hour relaxing with cigarettes and tea in the sitting area, and was then escorted through to the massage area, where Eva was waiting for me.
The massage rooms are also very clean, and the towels smell fresh. The massage itself was average but not incompetent in any way, and lasted about 45 minutes. Then Eva turned off the lights, tugged off my towel, and provided a few minutes of gentle erotic touching around the butt and ballsack before pausing to find out whether I wanted a simple happy ending ($88x) or FS ($1048). I opted for the latter, because she was definitely a fuckable lady.
Service was perfectly decent: CBJ, cowgirl, mish, followed by a cleanup and a few minutes alone to recoup.
Overall I'd recommend Blue Sky. It's not cheap, but it's conveniently located, very clean, and has a good service ethic.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jay Tea]Hello,
I am new to this forum. I will be going to Hong Kong in May and from there to Macau and than to Shen Zhen (SheKou). I will be arriving at the Hong Kong airport around 7 ish in the evening and I am thinking that the best thing for me to do would be to go to Macau right away and try to find a place to stay there as I have heard that Hong Kong is very expensive.
Anyway, I was hoping that I could get some good advice about how to go to Macau and any other information you guys might have. I am a White American, but I speak Manderin pretty well.
Thanks a lot for any help you guys are willing to give![/QUOTE]
I'd say your best bet would be just to go to the Hong Kong Macau Ferry pier building (ShunTak Centre, that Red diagonally striped building in Sheung Wan, within walking distance from Hong Kong Station of the airport Express, and where bus A11 airport bus stops at) and do comparison shopping. Match your own requirements with what is on offer or even ask to 'customize' a package for you - depending on your own requirements re Hotel rating, cost, planned activity in Macau etc.
Within the 2 floor proximity of the tickweting office, you will find a variety of travel agents offering you different "packages" which usualy includes a round trip ticket on the HKG-Macau Ferry and either 1 pop Sauna, or KTV experience.
Some agents specializes in getting bargain hotel accomodations - which can be as cheap as HK$300/weekday night and run all the way up to multi HK$ thousands for a suite at the Venetian (so much for cheap hotels in Macau these days!).
You can even go to a shop there and arrange to be "comped" first class all the way, just by depositi g a certain amount of $$ which you get back in player's chips at the casino. Like I said, it all depends on your own budget and what your planned activity would be in Macau.
there is only 6 daily ferries Macau-Shekou - check
[url]http://www.turbojetseaexpress.com.hk/eng/schedule/prd_4.html[/url]
for more details.
anything else?
SEAJ
First of all I want to thank all the regulars here, thanks to your posts I had a list with several option for play, when I visited Hongkong last month. I had a look at Wan Chai first, but then decided to try the New Lucky house on the intersection of Jordan and Nathan. I had checked it on 141, but couldn't really remember the names, room numbers, etc. of all the girls, so I just walked along the corridors. It was a weekday evening around 10 pm, and many appartments seemed to be empty, but in some places the doors would open, if I stopped in front of them. I chose Apple, a slim cutie with a very inviting smile. I have no idea how they managed to give her a cleavage on her photos on 141...
She asked me to undress and shower, and then gave me a massage. She didn't ask anything about what service I wanted, or how much she'd want. Being in Hongkong for the first time and not knowing the local habits and rules, I was already beginning to wonder if a massage was going to be all that I would get. But after the massage, she quoted her price list, 300 for handjob, 400 for "mouthjob", 500 for full sex, same as the prices she has on 141. I chose full sex, but, even though she had offered that option herself, she didn't seem to want to do it. She tried to convince me to take handjob or blowjob, or to pay 600 for full sex, since, according to her, I was too big. So I settled for a blowjob, which turned into a mixture of blowjob and handjob, since I didn't do her the favor of finishing as fast as she had hoped.
The service wasn't all that great, as you can guess from what I wrote above, but she was very friendly and very naturally sexy the whole time, allowed me to touch her wherever I wanted, and we had a fun conversation, even though her English is rather limited and my Chinese non-existant.
Btw, most of you probably know it already, but here is an observation that I thought quite interesting. When I entered the room she still had the images from the surveillance cameras on her tv. She changed it quickly to some regular channel, but for me it was a little bit a surprise to find out that the girls could be watching you closely, as you wander through the seemingly deserted corridors...
Has any one tried K-Pressure recently? I used to go a lot, but lost interest when the quality of the girls dropped too low to fuck. It has probably been 1 ½ or 2 years since I have been there. Anyone had any recent experience at K-pressure; good or bad?
Netter,
I'll tell you why apple and many 141 girls are really uptight about the whole surveillance camera issue. The reason is because about 3 weeks ago, there's been a mass murder of these 141 girls. 4 girls were brutally murdered in those apartments. So a lot of girls are quite scared, and extremely vigilant about customers coming to their apartment. So you can't blame apple for being a bit more cautious. In addition, as i believe apple is quite small and a spinner i think. A lot of smaller girls are like that. If you pick the taller ones they usually don't complain as much. In addition, it also depends on when you go, when you go too late, the girls get worn out by all the previous customers and they get tired and or lazy.
So, keep it up, eventually you'll find one that you'll enjoy. the more times u come back as repeat customers, 141 girls usually treat you fairly well.
AsnDragon
[QUOTE=Netter]First of all I want to thank all the regulars here, thanks to your posts I had a list with several option for play, when I visited Hongkong last month. I had a look at Wan Chai first, but then decided to try the New Lucky house on the intersection of Jordan and Nathan. I had checked it on 141, but couldn't really remember the names, room numbers, etc. of all the girls, so I just walked along the corridors. It was a weekday evening around 10 pm, and many appartments seemed to be empty, but in some places the doors would open, if I stopped in front of them. I chose Apple, a slim cutie with a very inviting smile. I have no idea how they managed to give her a cleavage on her photos on 141...
She asked me to undress and shower, and then gave me a massage. She didn't ask anything about what service I wanted, or how much she'd want. Being in Hongkong for the first time and not knowing the local habits and rules, I was already beginning to wonder if a massage was going to be all that I would get. But after the massage, she quoted her price list, 300 for handjob, 400 for "mouthjob", 500 for full sex, same as the prices she has on 141. I chose full sex, but, even though she had offered that option herself, she didn't seem to want to do it. She tried to convince me to take handjob or blowjob, or to pay 600 for full sex, since, according to her, I was too big. So I settled for a blowjob, which turned into a mixture of blowjob and handjob, since I didn't do her the favor of finishing as fast as she had hoped.
The service wasn't all that great, as you can guess from what I wrote above, but she was very friendly and very naturally sexy the whole time, allowed me to touch her wherever I wanted, and we had a fun conversation, even though her English is rather limited and my Chinese non-existant.
Btw, most of you probably know it already, but here is an observation that I thought quite interesting. When I entered the room she still had the images from the surveillance cameras on her tv. She changed it quickly to some regular channel, but for me it was a little bit a surprise to find out that the girls could be watching you closely, as you wander through the seemingly deserted corridors...[/QUOTE]
Dear AsnDragon, thank you for your reply. I didn't know about those murders, that is terrible.
[QUOTE=AsnDragon]
...
In addition, it also depends on when you go, when you go too late, the girls get worn out by all the previous customers and they get tired and or lazy.
So, keep it up, eventually you'll find one that you'll enjoy. the more times u come back as repeat customers, 141 girls usually treat you fairly well.
[/QUOTE]
Indeed, I was her last customer for the day. When I left, she was also removing her make-up and packing.
But I am sorry if I gave the impression that I didn't enjoy it. The service, let's say, left room for improvement, so I am hesitating to recommend her to others. But I had fun and enjoyed my time with her.
Unfortunately, it'll be a while before I will be able to return to Hongkong...
[QUOTE=Eye Spy]Has any one tried K-Pressure recently? I used to go a lot, but lost interest when the quality of the girls dropped too low to fuck. It has probably been 1 ½ or 2 years since I have been there. Anyone had any recent experience at K-pressure; good or bad?[/QUOTE]Eye spy,
I was there 2 months ago.
This place is getting worst and worst everytime I go.
I don't think I will be going back again.
Just go north across the border to mainland Changping or Shenzhen.
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Eye spy,
I was there 2 months ago.
This place is getting worst and worst everytime I go.
I don't think I will be going back again.
Just go north across the border to mainland Changping or Shenzhen.
Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]I respectfully disagree. I have been going there 3-4 times per month for some 18 mos. now and find that generally they are good although not spectacular; only a few times have they tried to pass off a dog on me. If you are there strictly for beauty then go to one of the East TST Clubs or Rio or 18 in Macau.
What keeps me returning is the consistency of service. I have a list of 3-4 regulars that I always ask for, which changes every few mos. as providers leave. When on a given visit none of them are available I ask for a new one, and usually see three before settling on one. It is a good idea to remember the name of candidate 1 so that when you are looking at candidate 3 and candidate 1 looked better, you can go back to that one.
Hi all,
Great forum here. I've been reading through most of the posts here and have gained quite a lot of knowledge about the Hong Kong scene. That said, there are still some questions around 141 girls as that's most likely where I'll monger when in HK next month.
1) I've been on the 141 site (at least, I think it's the right one), and it seems you can filter those that are 141 vs. Massage. However, when I look at the profiles for those that are classified as Massage, you still see rates for whole package, which I assume to be FS. Am I interpreting this correctly? If yes, is there really any distinction between 141 vs. Massage girls?
2) The majority of the reviews that I've read related to 141 girls have seemed to indicate that it's basically 1 pop and done. Now, this could be because the reviewer was only interested in 1 pop. But is that generally the case with the rates advertised? If I'm interested in multiple pops, this would have to be discussed upfront? Or could I wait to see whether I'm up for a second pop. The reviews that I read where one guy got off 3 times and almost had a fourth paid about 900 HKD when the base was 500. In general, would you say the rate is based on pops rather than time? For instance, where I'm from (US), I usually pay for the hour, and even if I pop, I still spend time with the provider until my hour is up. I didn't get that impression in the reviews that I read.
3) I haven't seen too many instances of this mentioned, but do you tip and if yes, how much? Where I'm from, it's typically 15-20% of the rate.
Thanks in advance for any clarification you can provide.
I'll try to briefly answer your questions.
1) There may be a difference in the type of establishment but most if not all of the gals on 141 are in the business of FS so in that sense not much difference.
2) Usually its for one pop and depending on the gal you can negotiate for another 1,2 or more after the fact or up front. Your success and the cost will depend on her attitude and the rapport you establish with her. At least thats been my experience.
3) Generally, no need to tip but if she has done you right and you feel like it, 5-10% extra would be more than she would expect. I sometimes leave 500 if her price is 480. I have asked and the gals tell me most punters, don't leave a tip.
I hope this helps. Please report back about your fun and good luck.
Acer
[QUOTE=Njaff2005]Hi all,
Great forum here. I've been reading through most of the posts here and have gained quite a lot of knowledge about the Hong Kong scene. That said, there are still some questions around 141 girls as that's most likely where I'll monger when in HK next month.
1) I've been on the 141 site (at least, I think it's the right one), and it seems you can filter those that are 141 vs. Massage. However, when I look at the profiles for those that are classified as Massage, you still see rates for whole package, which I assume to be FS. Am I interpreting this correctly? If yes, is there really any distinction between 141 vs. Massage girls?
2) The majority of the reviews that I've read related to 141 girls have seemed to indicate that it's basically 1 pop and done. Now, this could be because the reviewer was only interested in 1 pop. But is that generally the case with the rates advertised? If I'm interested in multiple pops, this would have to be discussed upfront? Or could I wait to see whether I'm up for a second pop. The reviews that I read where one guy got off 3 times and almost had a fourth paid about 900 HKD when the base was 500. In general, would you say the rate is based on pops rather than time? For instance, where I'm from (US), I usually pay for the hour, and even if I pop, I still spend time with the provider until my hour is up. I didn't get that impression in the reviews that I read.
3) I haven't seen too many instances of this mentioned, but do you tip and if yes, how much? Where I'm from, it's typically 15-20% of the rate.
Thanks in advance for any clarification you can provide.[/QUOTE]
My wallet not so fat. Recently i went from HKIA to Crowne Plaza Landmark SZE and back using a shuttle service the hotel suggested. 200CNY (RMB) about 35US$ - each way - it does not run 24 hour but was very efficient and i did have to pay cash - they take hong kong dollars. There are a variety of these services for similar price. See attached jpegs for service sent to me by hotel.
Sunchit Cross-Border Limo Service
Booth A13 in arrivals hall HKIA
They then take you to hsop 21 is the Regal airport hotel (walkway) from which shuttle leaves.
ph +86 0755 861 00222
0930 - 2030 departures
In Shenzhen JL Tour in CP hotel buidling ph + 86 755 822 00565
[QUOTE=Hat Trick]If you have a fat wallet or company covered trip, try private limo (cross border van), 100us, door to door, 24/7. At the border you just hand in your passport and open the door show your face and get lasered for temperature check. 3 min stop at border, 60 min HK-SZ. That's how I roll. J/K, I'm always behind the farmers with the odd smelling veggies.
PM me I'll call you one.
HT[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bearsk]My wallet not so fat. Recently i went from HKIA to Crowne Plaza Landmark SZE and back using a shuttle service the hotel suggested. 200CNY (RMB) about 35US$ - each way - it does not run 24 hour but was very efficient and i did have to pay cash - they take hong kong dollars. There are a variety of these services for similar price. See attached jpegs for service sent to me by hotel.
[/QUOTE]
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the hotel shuttle passengers have to get off at the border custom hall, wait in line, pass customs, exit HK, then run to the shuttle waiting for you before it leaves, then get off after a 200m ride to wait in line again to enter China, then finally exit hall to catch the hotel van.
Am I right?
The 100us cross border van has dual plates (GD and HK) and will drive you straight across the border. The plates costs something crazy like 80K usd for 2 years and you need to have half a mill usd investment in China to wait in line for the plates.
200CNY each way? Please tell me its true.
Actually departing from Luohu or Futian bus stations its 150CNY to HKIA via HuangGang border. 45HKD from HK (Mongkok) to HuangGan border, then 10 or 15 bucks to FuYong or BaoAn.
HT
[QUOTE=Hat Trick]...The plates costs something crazy like 80K usd for 2 years and you need to have half a mill usd investment in China to wait in line for the plates....[/QUOTE] Or buy an apartment in Zhuhai for 1 mio RMB and you get them for free. Still need to wait for 2-3 years.
200 RMB each way, no way.
Please excuse this report which to some will read like a porn mag letter but it really was such an exceptional night that I have to tell you all. Beats any of that 141 stuff anyday.
Well, I was as usual feeling horny so went to Wanchai late with the intention of a quick pick up and home. Into Neptune quick look around and jest about to leave to try fenwick when I spotted her, Filipina, white shorts, cracker. Usual chat and started the negotiating. She wanted 1500 as they all usually do, got her down to 800, deal done, all night two times come. Back home within half an hour. Gents there is no need to overpay.
Got here back to my place and discovered no tits to speak of but lovely ass. Little bit of kissing then asked her where she worked in Manila, sales assistant in Robinson dept store. Well that got me thinking and I asked her if she would like to watch a little porn. I had my favourite Evil angel vid where a bird is wearing tights (pantyhose to yanks) and the guy makes a little hole in them, which gets bigger, and fucks her. Well I tell her I have just such a pair of tights which I bought in Manila for just such an occasion as this. She just didn't believe it when I showed her a new packet of tights still in a Robinson bag. She was very keen to put them on and I was soon fingering her through the tights and her juices were seeping through the material, she really was getting very turned on. I was soon reenacting what was on the vid and had a hole made and shagging her with the tights still on, what a fuck and one I'll remember for the rest of my life. I then slept and had a repeat session in the morning minus the tights, brilliant.
Some of these Filipinas are excellent value and really are the girl next door type that have an ordinary job in the Fils and come up to HK to try and make a bit extra. I hope that the trouble they are currently having with China visas which they need to extend their stay by going to Shenzen for a day or so and then getting another two weeks in HKG doesn't cause the supply to dry up.
Remember that 800 honkies is just over 4000 peso which is a months wages for a sales assistant in Manila, they are very happy with that and the bus fare back to Wanchai. Treat them well and you can get excellent service.
Just an FYI for some who might be interested. The colombian population seems to be increasing at fenwick. I was there last week and there seems to be close to a dozen compared to less than a handful about a year ago. I was also surprise to see so many black girls or girls from brazil.
I do have a question though. There was this one Russian. She's about 5'2-5'4 busty with black hair. I tried to talked to her but was always interrupted by her friends. Anyways, anyone has any info on her. Is she GfE.
Thanks
Acer V,
Many thanks for your response. Much appreciated. Looking forward to my visit.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Acer V]I'll try to briefly answer your questions.
1) There may be a difference in the type of establishment but most if not all of the gals on 141 are in the business of FS so in that sense not much difference.
2) Usually its for one pop and depending on the gal you can negotiate for another 1,2 or more after the fact or up front. Your success and the cost will depend on her attitude and the rapport you establish with her. At least thats been my experience.
3) Generally, no need to tip but if she has done you right and you feel like it, 5-10% extra would be more than she would expect. I sometimes leave 500 if her price is 480. I have asked and the gals tell me most punters, don't leave a tip.
I hope this helps. Please report back about your fun and good luck.
Acer[/QUOTE]
Hi Joe Bannana,
Do you have her contact?
I have not posted much lately as things have pretty much been the usual in Wan Chai, TST East, Mong Kok. I did however find an interesting event last Sunday. I was invited by an Indo maid to a school near Causewaybay for "Dancing Queen 2008".
There were somewhere between 300-400 maids there, about half were dressed as Tomboys and half as proper women. There was a stage at the end of the room and for most of the morning and afternoon either an individual or group would get up on stage and dance for three minutes. There were some real hotties there, and a few girls I recognized who often in the later part of a Sunday afternoon hang out in Wan Chai.
I was one of only two gweilos there so I got tons of attention. It would have been so easy to pick up multiple girls, alot of whom I do not think head out to Wan Chai. Alot of the ladies were really dressed up for the competition. I would have loved to have taken my pick for who to pick up but the lady who invited me got great "face" out of it and it would have caused a real loss of "face" if I left with someone else. She made my appearance worthwhile. She also let me know that these sorts of dancing competitions happen once or twice a month. If you ever hear about one I would suggest going, besides being a surreal experience it would be a great place to grab a sunday freebie. I think much easier than Wan Chai as you are showing an interest in something a girl likes and you are not automatically assumed to be a "bad guy" as you are when you are in Wan Chai. Plus the shows were pretty good too.
CNY200 paid, window down in the back of the shuttle bus wave at customs no exit no queue.
I will try to upload pdfs of the flyer i was sent by Crowne Plaza Hotel. It took hour and half each way.
[QUOTE=Hat Trick]Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the hotel shuttle passengers have to get off at the border custom hall, wait in line, pass customs, exit HK, then run to the shuttle waiting for you before it leaves, then get off after a 200m ride to wait in line again to enter China, then finally exit hall to catch the hotel van.
Am I right?
The 100us cross border van has dual plates (GD and HK) and will drive you straight across the border. The plates costs something crazy like 80K usd for 2 years and you need to have half a mill usd investment in China to wait in line for the plates.
200CNY each way? Please tell me its true.
Actually departing from Luohu or Futian bus stations its 150CNY to HKIA via HuangGang border. 45HKD from HK (Mongkok) to HuangGan border, then 10 or 15 bucks to FuYong or BaoAn.
HT[/QUOTE]
Website's staff guilty of living off prostitutes
Loretta Fong
Apr 25, 2008
scmp.com
A man who established an online prostitution website, the site's
contractor, and employees including a programmer and
photographers were found guilty of conspiring to live off the
earnings of prostitutes yesterday in the District Court.
It is the first case of its kind in which employees involved in
running advertisements for sex workers on the internet have been
prosecuted.
Chan Yuk-bun, 48, Peterson Wong Tze-wing, 45, Lam Yiu-chung, 35,
Kwan Yiu-cheong, 30, Lee Yiu-keung, 31, Andy Kwok, 31, and Chan
Chik Ying, 31, were each convicted of a count of conspiracy to
live off the earnings of prostitutes.
The money came from advertisements that appeared on the
Best161.com between March 2003 and May 16, 2006.
Sentencing was adjourned to May 14, pending background reports
on the defendants.
Community service reports were sought for six defendants, with
the exception of Chan Yuk-bun.
Prosecutor Anita Ma Wing-cheung told the court earlier that the
website mainly helped women at brothels advertise on the
internet.
Details such as the prostitutes' names, ages, services offered,
fees, addresses and pictures could be found there.
Chan Yuk-bun, who set up the company, iChannel Media, said
earlier under caution that he had expanded the business
operation since early 2004 and recruited the employees.
The company would send the photographers to the brothels to take
pictures of prostitutes, which would be uploaded to the website
and included in the advertisements.
The prostitutes were charged HK$600 a month.
The seven men were arrested on May 16, 2006, after police
officers had monitored the website for several months.
Delivering the verdict, Deputy Judge David Dufton said the
prosecution witness, a police officer who had been monitoring
the website, was considered a reliable and truthful witness.
The judge rejected the claim that there was no evidence the
money the defendants received had come from the earnings of the
prostitutes as he said this was obvious.
The judge said that Chan Yuk-bun knew that the money came from
the prostitutes' earnings.
He was also satisfied that these earnings also paid for the
running of the website.
The court heard that the company made a profit of HK$90,000 to
HK$100,000 a month.
The judge said the other six defendants must have known where
the money came from.
They knew that the details of the prostitutes were put on the
website to attract paying customers.
Meanwhile, legislator James To Kun-sun expressed concern that
the conviction might have implications for other fields.
He gave as an example a case where a construction worker helped
renovate a flat owned by a prostitute. If he knew his client was
a prostitute, could we say he was relying on the earnings of the
prostitute?
The laws were still vague concerning this area, he said.
Rick Hunter,
This sounds smashing. Can you give some more detail on where it is? And do you know the schedule or when the next one is?
Thanks!
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket
[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]I have not posted much lately as things have pretty much been the usual in Wan Chai, TST East, Mong Kok. I did however find an interesting event last Sunday. I was invited by an Indo maid to a school near Causewaybay for "Dancing Queen 2008".
There were somewhere between 300-400 maids there, about half were dressed as Tomboys and half as proper women. There was a stage at the end of the room and for most of the morning and afternoon either an individual or group would get up on stage and dance for three minutes. There were some real hotties there, and a few girls I recognized who often in the later part of a Sunday afternoon hang out in Wan Chai.
I was one of only two gweilos there so I got tons of attention. It would have been so easy to pick up multiple girls, alot of whom I do not think head out to Wan Chai. Alot of the ladies were really dressed up for the competition. I would have loved to have taken my pick for who to pick up but the lady who invited me got great "face" out of it and it would have caused a real loss of "face" if I left with someone else. She made my appearance worthwhile. She also let me know that these sorts of dancing competitions happen once or twice a month. If you ever hear about one I would suggest going, besides being a surreal experience it would be a great place to grab a sunday freebie. I think much easier than Wan Chai as you are showing an interest in something a girl likes and you are not automatically assumed to be a "bad guy" as you are when you are in Wan Chai. Plus the shows were pretty good too.[/QUOTE]
Hi to Joe B,
Good report. Liked your fantasy. Lived in Phils for 5 years and have been going there on an off for past 25. Yes all the gals will always say that they were shop assistants. As they may once have been. Go to any bar in Burgos in Makati and they will always say they worked in a mall. Always. And always they will say its first time in a bar.
Reality is they once worked in a mall or dept store. Then started making little extra income maybe from a mall customer. Then more. Then regular HK or Singapore or KL trips as a means of easy money.
Anyways they did always work in a mall. Just not as their last job.
Also they rotate. Check their passports. They have gone for Singapore to KL. After than to Shanghai. Or HK. I know of many who I have seen in HK who then told me their travel plans. In fact one day I was in Orchard Towers in Singapore when one girl calls out my "bar name I. E. Not my real name. Was a gal Id been bonking in a private booth in a Makati bar not one week before. Great report tho!
Guys,
I've read a good subset of the info on the forum but haven't found specific answers to the following questions. Any input you can offer is appreciated!
With regard to the s_x141 site, and the girls therein. When I look under a specific building, if the girls are listed under 'Massage' and not '141', does that truly mean massage only? I noticed almost all of the girls for 'Hotel Reservation' are 141, but most of the girls listed under the names of the buildings are 'Massage'. Discretion for the sake of the police? Any enlightenment here is appreciated.
Re the 'Hotel Reservation' girls. Any tips for non-Mandarin speakers on how to best hook up? And, if I am able to communicate with them enough to direct them to my hotel, do I need to meet the girl in the lobby or just have her come to the room?
Finally, any areas of the city to stay out of due to safety issues. Day or night. For a tall, white, obviously american guy, but who knows the 'safety rules' of traveling in a foreign country?
Thx in advance
HKG is SAFE! Very safe any time day or night. Any where! Except maybe Wan Chai when USS Kitty Hawk is in town!! Just joking!
Hotel Reservation girls have their own hotel rooms most of the time. Just call and you will be speaking to their 'Agent'. He will give you instructions as to which hotel. He will ask you o go there and call again. He will then ask you to call again.
Most of the time they DO NOT come to your hotel.
If you insist they will most likely ask for extra charge. They will ask for your room number. They will call before coming up. If security allows they will come direct to your room. They maybe stopped if its after midnight. The front desk will then call you and ask if you are expecting a visitor. Its for your own protection. They will then record the ladies details. No problem for you.
Enjoy HKG
PM me if you need more info.
i've been reading these posts for quite a while and wanted to join the scene a bit, but found one little pocket of the scene missing some info. the strip clubs / girlie bars. in particular, and wanted to know: what's the deal? as i was passing by the area, and had an older mamasan try to pull me into a bar where i got just a glimpse of a girl dancing just inside (8-9 body but couldn't make out the face). i've read on the forums that these places will basically bleed you dry, but can anyone elaborate? from what i can see, the bar will [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] you with the woman's drink and the mamasan will try to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] you with a charge to take a girl out. is there any way to just go in and watch the girls shake their thing while enjoying a beer?
and on a separate note, are any of the girls willing to let you take pics/vids of them during the act as a souvenir? are the thais/filipinos, say, more willing than their dundas street counterparts? do you ask up front?
[QUOTE=Stargm]HKG is SAFE! Very safe any time day or night. Any where! Except maybe Wan Chai when USS Kitty Hawk is in town!! Just joking!
Hotel Reservation girls have their own hotel rooms most of the time. Just call and you will be speaking to their 'Agent'. He will give you instructions as to which hotel. He will ask you o go there and call again. He will then ask you to call again.
Most of the time they DO NOT come to your hotel.
If you insist they will most likely ask for extra charge. They will ask for your room number. They will call before coming up. If security allows they will come direct to your room. They maybe stopped if its after midnight. The front desk will then call you and ask if you are expecting a visitor. Its for your own protection. They will then record the ladies details. No problem for you.
Enjoy HKG
PM me if you need more info.[/QUOTE]Do most of the agents speak english?
How easy/difficult is it to get an appointment with the hotel girls, especially if you are a foreigner?
The info on the site varies in accuracy. Most 141 girls provide all services up to FS or the full package. On the site under services for each gal, you sometimes see Massage only or NO FS, in which case its only massage perhaps with BJ or HJ.
Some girls use the massage thing as a way of refusing to service, for example, the old Asian girl dance of "my GOD thats the biggest cock on earth!" - so pay me extra Or can i do HJ and/or BJ (with lower price accordingly).
Most Hotel res girls don't speak English - mainly Mandarin but the papa or mama on the phone will or will find someone who does. A lot of 141 girls in the TST and WC areas speak English to some degree, although I must say that lack of English has never meant the service was bad.
[QUOTE=El Fuego]Guys,
I've read a good subset of the info on the forum but haven't found specific answers to the following questions. Any input you can offer is appreciated!
With regard to the s_x141 site, and the girls therein. When I look under a specific building, if the girls are listed under 'Massage' and not '141', does that truly mean massage only? I noticed almost all of the girls for 'Hotel Reservation' are 141, but most of the girls listed under the names of the buildings are 'Massage'. Discretion for the sake of the police? Any enlightenment here is appreciated.
Re the 'Hotel Reservation' girls. Any tips for non-Mandarin speakers on how to best hook up? And, if I am able to communicate with them enough to direct them to my hotel, do I need to meet the girl in the lobby or just have her come to the room?
Finally, any areas of the city to stay out of due to safety issues. Day or night. For a tall, white, obviously american guy, but who knows the 'safety rules' of traveling in a foreign country?
Thx in advance[/QUOTE]
[quote=johnsmithdoe852]i've been reading these posts for quite a while and wanted to join the scene a bit, but found one little pocket of the scene missing some info. the strip clubs / girlie bars. in particular, and wanted to know: what's the deal? as i was passing by the area, and had an older mamasan try to pull me into a bar where i got just a glimpse of a girl dancing just inside (8-9 body but couldn't make out the face). i've read on the forums that these places will basically bleed you dry, but can anyone elaborate? from what i can see, the bar will [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] you with the woman's drink and the mamasan will try to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] you with a charge to take a girl out. is there any way to just go in and watch the girls shake their thing while enjoying a beer?
and on a separate note, are any of the girls willing to let you take pics/vids of them during the act as a souvenir? are the thais/filipinos, say, more willing than their dundas street counterparts? do you ask up front?[/quote]
as a good old friend used to say, when you go to strip club in wan chai, you may not get laid, but you definitely will get fucked! your assumption is 100% correct, between the lady drinks and bar fine, and the girl price, you will be spending a lot of money for something that you can get a lot cheaper at fenwick.
apac man
[quote=johnsmithdoe852]i've been reading these posts for quite a while and wanted to join the scene a bit, but found one little pocket of the scene missing some info. the strip clubs / girlie bars. in particular, and wanted to know: what's the deal? as i was passing by the area, and had an older mamasan try to pull me into a bar where i got just a glimpse of a girl dancing just inside (8-9 body but couldn't make out the face). i've read on the forums that these places will basically bleed you dry, but can anyone elaborate? from what i can see, the bar will [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] you with the woman's drink and the mamasan will try to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] you with a charge to take a girl out. is there any way to just go in and watch the girls shake their thing while enjoying a beer?
and on a separate note, are any of the girls willing to let you take pics/vids of them during the act as a souvenir? are the thais/filipinos, say, more willing than their dundas street counterparts? do you ask up front?[/quote]
don't even think about going in to one - total rip-offs which will cost a fortune - both for your drink, the girl's drink, the bar fine and the fee to the girl. as apac man says you will get everything you want in fenwicks/neptunes/galaxy or any other place. yes, it is possible to go in an watch the girl dancing but you will be under pressure to buy drinks at least. if you have to go in, go with a crowd and stand at the back to watch but you will be approached. the girls are no better than you can find in any of the bars mentioned.
as for photos, i don't know but i doubt it. ask them, but if you don't buy them a drink i would suspect the answer is "no".
Hi All,
I was wondering what time and place is best for getting a quality lineup? I'm sick of getting girls one by one and denying them all, and then leaving. It feels like such a waste of time.
I've been to HK many times before but I haven't gone in a while. But, this summer I'm going back and hopefully I can find someone nice to keep me "busy".
[QUOTE=Jackthelad2]Don't even think about going in to one - total rip-offs which will cost a fortune - both for your drink, the girl's drink, the bar fine and the fee to the girl. As APAC Man says you will get everything you want in Fenwicks/Neptunes/Galaxy or any other place. Yes, it is possible to go in an watch the girl dancing but you will be under pressure to buy drinks at least. If you have to go in, go with a crowd and stand at the back to watch but you will be approached. The girls are no better than you can find in any of the bars mentioned.
As for photos, I don't know but I doubt it. Ask them, but if you don't buy them a drink I would suspect the answer is "no".[/QUOTE]I had to go to those bars with customers when I was working in HK. One day, it may be 10 years back, my boss asked me to go back there and check last nights bill of 15000 (no girls taken out). I went with a friend and that turned out top be the chreapest girlie bar visit ever. (I should mention that my boss and friend was a regular to this bar and blew loads of money there).
We had one beer each and didn't envite the girls. The bill came 140 for 2 drinks and I paid by card to keep the slip as a memory.
The girlie drinks ran 220 at that time. And a takeout for a regular customer very late at night was at least 2500. For others more like 4500.
I am not sure about the prices today, since I haven't been in such a bar for ages.
[QUOTE=Nasty Nate 87]Hi All,
I was wondering what time and place is best for getting a quality lineup? I'm sick of getting girls one by one and denying them all, and then leaving. It feels like such a waste of time.
I've been to HK many times before but I haven't gone in a while. But, this summer I'm going back and hopefully I can find someone nice to keep me "busy".[/QUOTE]From reading the forum it should be pretty obvious, but it may not have been explicitly stated (recently anyway). You can check out 37 Dundas as well as various places in Macau; of which, to the latter I've never been. The streetwalkers in Mong Kok and TST East may also give you a lineup feeling. Finally, there are the 141 girls. It's kind of like shopping on line.
Hey all!!
Am new to the scene in HK. Will be down in 2 weeks time & staying at the Parklane Hotel. Any ideas of how I can find a nice girl around the area or if better a girl that I could overnight wid me. Thanks would really appreciate some help here.
Ok So I made a post earlier about where to get a good lineup. I read that 37 Dundas has lineups. But I have read mixed reviews on that place. Is Dundas my best bet? Or is there somewhere else that will have better lineups (as far as quality/beauty of the women).
Thanks,
Nate
[QUOTE=Stargm]HKG is SAFE! Very safe any time day or night. Any where! Except maybe Wan Chai when USS Kitty Hawk is in town!! Just joking!
Hotel Reservation girls have their own hotel rooms most of the time. Just call and you will be speaking to their 'Agent'. He will give you instructions as to which hotel. He will ask you o go there and call again. He will then ask you to call again.
Most of the time they DO NOT come to your hotel.
PM me if you need more info.[/QUOTE]Sometimes the agents will insist on calling YOU!
If I don't have a cell phone in HK, what do I do?
[QUOTE=BruceTea]Sometimes the agents will insist on calling YOU!
If I don't have a cell phone in HK, what do I do?[/QUOTE]Buy one, it's maybe cheaper than the girl.
During the last 5 days I spend my nights in the Bars of Wan Chai. Here is the report of night one (May 1).
The US Navy was in town. So the streets were swarming with sailors. All of the boozed up. All in all the atmosphere was not to friendly.
Arrived in Fenwicks at about midnight, when the ambulance rushed the victim of a clash between to sailors to hospital. MP was there and quieted everything down.
Place hat mostly Philippina and some Russians? and 4 or 5 black girls. But the quality of the girls was rather low, at least compared to previous trips.
Talked to a few girls and apparently they are still afraid of undercover cops who negotiate with the girls and then take them out and arrest them.
After some time I ran into a girl I met before in Shanghai. Decided to stick with something I know and took her home at about 03:00h.
US Navy still around. But this night they didn't let the riffraff out. I guess most sailors this night were of some rank as they behaved civilized.
Went to Laguna at about midnight. Place was packed, but mainly blokes. Not many girls around and the quality was rather low again. Drank a couple of beers and went over to Fenwick's.
Here again, mostly Philippina but nothing struck me. Seems the girls are not that much into going home with customers that much, but rather getting them to pay "Tequila Rock 'n' Roll" for which they get a kickback of HKD 60 from the bar. The rate at which some of those girls knock those drinks down and get their gentlemen to buy them more is admirable...
Left at about 3:00 to get some snacks in the food stall opposite Fenwick's. Chatted up a Phili girl who ate there as well, and brought her back to hotel. She performed well, but nothing out of the ordinary.
The US Navy finally left.
It's Saturday night and I started at Neptune 2 at about 23:30. Nice selection of Philippina with a few stunners. Approached them, but they were only interested in guys buying them Lady Drinks.
Placed myself om a stool at the bar and enjoyed the show. Those girls were good in getting drinks out of guys. As I said before, admirable.
Talked to a small girl that just arrived, but after a drink realized that the "chemistry" didn't work and abandoned her.
Moved to Laguna. Not packed and a lot of black guys there. The door gives those guys a hard time and makes them pay an entry fee. (Same in the other bars as well).
Sat down at the bar in the back and chatted to some Thai girls. One of them decided to come with me to Fenwick's. So had a couple of drinks and left with her for Fenwick's.
In Fenwick's was great party atmosphere. Met an old friend of mine we drank and talked about "good old times". That Thai girls kind of got lost somehow :)
At about 5:00 those two rather cute (after lot's pf beer) girls attached themselves to us. They kept ordering beers instead of Lady Drinks. I like that. I took one of them home and my friend the other one.
Quite a good session and some sleep until 15:00 hours.
Again started at Neptune 2. Same as last night. Some stunners aiming for Lady Drinks and the rest fairly ordinary.
After a beer or two this Chinese girl from Sanya came my way. I talked to here a bit (I speak some very limited Putonghua and she spoke some English) and asked her to move on with me.
We went to Fenwick's were I met my friend again. He was still with that girl from last night :)
We kept drinking and generally behaving stupid until about 3:00 and went home.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog (in the Photo Gallery)]There are 2 types of Wan Chai Bars. I will assume we are talking the 'freelance' type bars such as Neptunes/Fenwicks. The filipina's especially (Thais are more independant) generally pay an arranger to get them the visa and accomodation. Any day not working means they have less of a chance to pay back the agent. There is no 'bar fine' that I have ever heard of on the freelance scence.[/QUOTE]
Most likely if a Filipina, her manager assumes she has had some revenue and charge her their share.
It does not go to the bar, so it is no barfine. But I am sure she still had to pay, unless she is in HK on her own (usually they come on their own after the first or second trip when they have enough money for the ticket.
Hong Kong bars in Wan Chai.
Wan Chai has 2 streets that we found with the recommended bars: the main street has Fenwicks as well as Dreams II. One street closer to the water has Joe Bananas and Neptune II.
On a Monday night at 11pm, Fenwicks actually was pretty busy with a decent selection of Thai, Filipino, and Columbian girls. Dreams II was completely empty. Joe Bananas was pretty empty too. Neptune II was pretty full, seemed more friendly than Fenwicks, and got packed by 1am. Prices quoted by Filipina girls was about HK$1000.
English-language skills were at best mediocre. Surprising from Filipinas, who I thought learned English in school. Left without selecting anyone, having talked to 4 girls and bought drinks for 2.
-Cartman in Asia
K-Pressure, Hong Kong
Directions:
MTR (Metro) to Jordan stop. Take “Exit A” from station, turn right onto Jordan, take 2nd right onto Woosung Street (7-11 on corner), K-Pressure is 2nd building on left.
Landmarks:
You’ll know Woosong as there is a 7-11 on the corner with Jordan, next to this on the right on Woosong St. is the famous Pharmacy near K-Pressure (genuine Cialis for sale at reasonable prices, without prescription), and next to the Pharmacy (on the right), is the narrow entrance to K-Pressure. K-Pressure’s signs suck – it’s all in chinese characters with just an English letter K. Also when you go in the narrow hallway under the signs, K-Pressure entrance is in the back of the hallway, past the elevators, up the stairs. Don’ t take the elevators.
Upstairs, you’re greeted and ushered into a private room where they will explain the pricing: $390 to the house, plus $100 to the “hotel” upstairs that rents you the rooms. These are actually K-Pressure’s rooms. Like Terma rooms – small bed, shower next to it. Relatively clean actually. The ushers then bring the girls in 1 at a time, and leave them in the room with you for 2 minutes or so. I had to tell them (in very broken English) to hurry the fuck up and stop leaving me with hags for 2 minutes. Finally I got her to rotate through 4 girls before she told me I’d seen enough and should pick. I picked an OK looking Chinese gal.
Took me upstairs to pay the Hotel, and lead me into a room. Undressed me and into the shower. There was a large inflatable air mattress in the shower, which she put down diagonally on the floor (it barely fit). She had me lay down on it to soap me up and body slide. While the shower was clean, I had little interest in being close to the floor staring at the tiles so I quickly ended that.
Onto the bed for a light massage and BBBJ and onto business (covered).
Wasn’t sure if I was supposed to tip the girl or not. Ended up tipping her way too much – smallest bill I had was a $500 and I couldn’t communicate “change” with her. On the way out I asked the hostess if you’re supposed to tip, and she said no. *shrug*
If what you’re after is a convenient, clean quickie with 5s-7s, $500 isn’t too bad.
Note on the Pharmacy next to K-Pressure: It was $390 for a 4-pack of 20mg Cialis. They seemed to have all the right hologram seals on them. Real deal.
-Cartman in Asia
Day 1
Hit Lan Kwai Fong then the pubs at Wan Chai. Mostly Filipinos, had a excellent Thai girl called Jang at Joe Bananas the last time I was here. She wasn’t that pretty but she was slim and her tongue was pierced which I really like, got great bbbj out of that mouth. I was lucky because her target punter had no interest her. This time there were a lot people around but way too many punters and way too little hotties. The market is not in the favour of punters here so I decide to give this night a miss and save my money for Macau where I will heading next.
Day 2 & Day 3
Stayed at my hotel room and watched TV, I'll save my money for Macau
Check out my reports there
Hey guys,
I have twice reported on Sunday afternoons at Laguna being one of my favorite days of the week in HK based on all the hot Indonesian Domestic Helpers having fun on their day off.
If I remember correctly, you needed to grab a date by 5:00-6:00 or so as the girls had to report to work later on Sunday night.
My next trip I'll be arriving later on Sunday and won't be able to get to Laguna until 8:00 PM or so. How are the pickings at that time?
Many thanks.
News Article - SCMP - 16th May
The operator of a popular online prostitutes directory that "encouraged prostitution on a large scale" was jailed for 18 months yesterday.
Chan Yuk-bun, 48, was sentenced in the District Court after earlier being convicted of conspiring to live off the earnings of prostitution.
The site's designer, Peterson Wong Tze-wing, 45, programmer Chan Chik-yin, 31, photo processor Andy Kwok, 31, and three photographers - Lam Yiu-chung, 35, Kwan Yiu-cheong, 30, and Lee Yiu-keung, 31 - were each ordered to perform 180 hours of community service. They were also fined HK$20,000.
The court had heard the seven made money by charging for adverts on the website, which they ran for three years until their arrest in May 2006.
It is the first conviction of staff involved in advertising sex workers on the internet.
Chan Yuk-bun had admitted the company made HK$90,000 to HK$100,000 a month by charging each prostitute HK$600.
His personal bank account showed HK$6.5 million in deposits during the years the site operated.
Deputy Judge David Dufton said a deterrent sentence was needed because such websites might allow syndicates to hide other criminal activity.
The company sent photographers to brothels to take pictures of the women, which were uploaded to the website and included in the adverts, which included the prostitutes' names, age, service offered, fees and addresses.
Judge Dufton accepted the prostitutes in this case were not subjected to control, influence or direction, unlike if they were involved with a pimp.
But he said the case was serious because it was "a sophisticated operation" and "encouraged prostitution on a large scale" for three years.
Also, despite a disclaimer, the website employed no measures to prevent access by the under-aged.
Hong Kong law does not prohibit prostitution. But it is illegal to solicit for business or advertise it using signs, or for third parties to derive income from someone's employment as a sex worker.
The judge rejected the defendants' plea of being ignorant of the law. He said anyone should know that involvement in vice-related activities risked prosecution.
Judge Dufton said advertising sex services was allowed under British law unless the prosecution proved those prostitutes were being controlled for gain. But he said Hong Kong was "reluctant" to hold a similar stance, given it was more conservative than a western country when it came to prostitution.
He said the website encouraged prostitution on a large scale and involved many women from the mainland, who were in the city illegally
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Just sharing my POV:
There are tons of websites providing these kind of services. Just hope that this sentecne will not give too much impact on their existens. It these websites where not availabe, it will definetly give us more difficulties to find the relevant information. But even this sector of the service industry need to keep up with the technology. Long gone is the day when you needed to buy a local news paper (you know which ones) and read the ads (text only) where little visual information of the girl was available (non existing). I just can not understand that it is ok to advert in the newspaper, where they also charge for these kind of ads (meaning they "earn"/profit from these sex workers?), but as soon you publish these kind of information, available and made much easier to a larger public, it become illegal?
No doubt these websites/services has changed the way of mongering and made our life a lot easier. They not only list the services provided, body measure, price, but most important and their largest advantage of them all, providing a picture of what you could expect of the goods!!! Although occasionaly these might not be 100% accurate. Anyway, I am glad to see many sites still are operating as usual, especially the one I consider the largest one.....Just had to quote: "Why we are the best?! Most accurate, most updated, largest database!!!"
Keep on happy mongering, Jazziton
We no longer accept right and wrong from the wise or higher beings. Today we set margins of right and wrong by limits of our tolerance. Matters have become so diverse and precipitous we don't even understand why anymore.
Half of Hong Kong is guilty of living off prostitution, according to this judgement. Travel, hospitality, retail, food, and all the freaking saunas and night clubs.
I don't think anyone will do it non-profit and risk prosecution from this point, guess it is ripe to go underground to the maffia, if they hadn't already.
"Hong Kong is more conservative than a western country when it came to prostitution." Really?? Please pass whatever it is you're smoking.
[QUOTE=Jazziton]His personal bank account showed HK$6.5 million in deposits during the years the site operated. [/QUOTE]
I must be in the wrong business.
Gyaos.
[QUOTE=Jazziton]News Article - SCMP - 16th May [/QUOTE]
Despite LE 'cracking down' on websites a couple years back and managing to shut a few down -- Best161 etc, one remained resolutely open thru'out -- 161 s e x -- the one being prosecuted, and referred to in the Moron Post article. And its still going strong. It wd therefore seem a reasonable assumption that we face no imminent threat of losing such websites ...
JS
[QUOTE=Hat Trick]
"Hong Kong is more conservative than a western country when it came to prostitution." Really?? Please pass whatever it is you're smoking.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, with the exception of a few States, I'm almost 100% positive it's against the law in the U.S. to even to pull your zipper down in a room with a woman unless she's your wife. ;)
AT2
[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]My pleasure to help. I wrote the report you a refering to maybe 1 to 2 years ago to as it is a scene that is very prevalent in Hong Kong but not so easy for tourists to learn the ropes about in the short time they are usually in HK for.[/QUOTE]
Hello Rick,
I read your report on these clubs near Hilton Towers area. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...&postcount=2838[/url]
Sounds like a good way to start my first night in HK although it looks like a pricey way to start might trip. But, WTF. I would prefer an exceptional first experience with a Chinese girl rather than something less. Your post and a follow-up post by Le Licheur are the only ones I have found about this type of venue.
I am hoping that you might answer a couple (or more) questions.
1. Where is the Hilton Towers area? A Street name and address would be a great help. I did a google search and came up with nothing useful.
2. You mentioned the New Paris Club and China Club. Where are they located (street and address or some form of directions from Hilton Towers would be helpful). Are there other clubs that you would be willing to suggest?
3. I won't be arriving until 6:45 PM; so I will miss the Cha Mo (Tea dancing) time. Doesn't sound like first timers get a break in price for Cha Mo anyway. Do you have any idea of the charges for the post Cha Mo times that allow taking the girls out until 4AM.
I think that is enough to ask for now. I will appreciate anything you can offer on this subject.
If anyone else would like to contribute on this subject, please do.
Take care,
N1
Hi everyone. Yah. I been away fr too long but when you consider tht been busy cleaning up the house with an ex. Etc etc. Smetimes takes long. LOL
Okie. Now about business. I am in HK fr exactly 3 days. My second time. And been trying to hook up smething fr this eve. Everyone seems to quote 1200 HK$ for basic servuce and 600-700 frm the girls other services? Is tht a fair deal. Seems high to me because its US$250 almost.
May be my mind is skewed because juz rtrnd frm 15 days in Bali, jakarta and KL so you tend t get a bit spoiled.
Can smeone please please help. Good MP with services. WG / freelancing or any websites that have certain sevice level as experienced by fellow mongers. Will be a great great help.
Will update on recent escapades in other forums. And await some inputs for HK. Soon. Thanks all.
Hey folks, I’m back from another trip to Asia, and I was able to spend a few days in HK. I met up with a 40 year old Filipina working as a domestic helper and she did a fine job of lowering my sperm count. But Joe likes variety, so during the hours she was working, I went out on the prowl. Here’s a compilation of what I found:
Before I go into much detail, let me remind everyone that we all have our unique preferences in what we like from the P4P hobby. For me, I love streetwalkers, especially ones dressed up in short skirts and wearing big "CFM" high heeled shoes. Stockings are a plus, too. Also, I’m not the kind of guy who wants a working girl to spend the night with me. Once I’m done, I want to send the girl packing and then head to sleep. One cum and I’m done, ha ha.
Another prerequisite of mine is that I don’t want to spend a fortune in my pursuit of happiness. I love the $1, 000 Wanchai Filipinas as much as the next guy, but that equals $125 USA of my hard-earned money. And since I was heading the Philippines after departing HK, I wasn’t about to pay that much knowing I could easily find a cutie in Manila or Cebu that would cost me between $30 and $40 USA for an all-night encounter.
When I’m in HK, I never ever pay more than $300 HK for a short-time session with a streetwalker. Usually I end up paying between $200 and $300. If I knew the language, I might be able to negotiate even lower prices.
Finding Chinese streetwalkers isn’t all that easy unless you know where to go find them. I’m sure they hang out in several places in the city, but I have found one tried and true place where you can always find pretty decent-looking Chinese streetwalkers who will provide adequate service. (Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so don’t flame me if you go there and think the women are ugly, ha ha).
I heartily recommend heading to the Temple Street market area of Kowloon. The best hours to find streetwalkers there are between 9 pm and 1 am, with the largest number of them out between 10 pm and midnight. After 2 am they pretty much all disappear.
For those of you know who do not know HK geography very well, the best way to get there is to take the MTR to the Jordan stop, then walk to the corner of Nathan and Jordan Roads. Cross Jordan Road and follow it to the left (west), so you will be walking on the right hand side of the road. If you see a lighted McDonalds sign, you know you’re going in the right direction.
Heading west from Nathan Road, you will begin crossing some small side streets. Parke is the first one, followed by Woosung. The third street is Temple Street, and if you turn right you will see this is where one of the large night markets is located. You need to walk north for a couple of blocks before you run into the wall to wall line of vendors selling all kinds of crap we can all live without.
Temple Street is closed to motor traffic and is pedestrian only. You can walk along the street in one of three ways. Most tourists walk up the center row of the market to gawk at the merchandise. But you can also walk along the two sidewalks between the backsides of the stalls and the storefronts.
What you need to do is walk along the left sidewalk, and on just about every street corner after 10 pm there are groups of two or three streetwalkers all the way up to the end of the market at Kansu Street. Prices asked by these girls are usually either $400 or $500. I always offer $100 less than they are asking, and I’ve never had a $400 girl who would not accept my $300 offer.
If you travel one block directly to the west of the market, you will find Shanghai Street. There are lots of streetwalkers who hang out here too, between Jordan Road and Kansu Streets. Prices here range from $300 to $500, but most of the $300 girls will accept $200.
Don’t expect any of these girls to speak any English, except the word "Massagie". But the language of lustful commerce is easy to speak. If you have a mobile phone, just type in the price you are willing to pay. Both of the women I had on this trip had their own rooms, so you won’t have to pay extra for accomodations. I was really nervous the first time I went upstairs with one, but I‘ve never had any problems. But I keep my credit cards and passport in the hotel room safe, and only bring a minimal amount of money with me.
The condition of the rooms varies from crappy to shitty. Oh this trip both women had the air conditioner going, so I didn’t get overheated. But these are not pleasant accomodations, and are strictly for "get it out, get it up, get it in, get it on, and get away" encounters.
Both women had condoms available, but I always bring my flavored Durex condoms from the USA. I don’t trust my little friend with "Made in China" protection.
The first woman I dated was standing along Shanghai Street half way between Jordan road and Kansu Street. I would guess she was in her late twenties in age, with a pretty cute face and shoulder-length wavy hair. This Chinese cutie was dressed in a short black dress with a slit up the side, fish net stockings, and cute 3 inch sandal heels. She was as sultry-looking as the day is long, and I knew I had to have her.
I walked up to her and said hello, and asked "how many dollars? ". She held up 3 fingers, which of course was $300. Normally I would negotiate down to $200, but I didn’t want to risk pissing off this lustful creature, so I nodded my head and we walked up the stairs located right behind where she was standing. She opened a locked entry door and we walked up another flight of stairs to her third floor sleeping room. The hallways were really skuzzy looking but the room was actually quite decent.
We both got undressed and she washed my member with a clean wetted wash cloth, then she took a quickie shower and we got down to business. She gave me a covered BJ for a minute, then began to suck my nipples as she stroked Mister Stiffy. I leaned forward and began to kiss her neck and blow in her ear, and she stopped licking and began to moan. Shortly after I motioned for her to start sucking again, and she did so for about 2 minutes. Then I indicates I wanted to start "the deed", so she rolled over and I pushed myself in. Missionary and cowgirl were the two positions we did, and after about 5 minutes I blew my wad. She then cleaned me up, and we both got dressed and walked down the stairs together so she could get back to work. As I was leaving, she gave me a hug and said, "I love you". Awwwww, of course I believe in love at first sight, ha ha.
A couple of nights later I had the evening to kill, so I went back to find another gal. The Filipina had done a good job of draining my balls, so I wasn’t really desperate to find anyone. But I stumbled across a true girl friend experience, and it was one of the highlights of my trip.
I’m guessing that not many Western men frequent this area. I’ve found that many Chinese women are not all that interested in white men, but some Asian women are really really are attracted to me, probably because of my blonde hair and blue eyes. Well, I stumbled across a woman who really wanted me.
She was around 25 years old, short black hair, wearing a short black skirt with some cute sandal heels. She wasn’t gorgeous or even necessarily pretty, but she had a sweet "girl next door" look about her. She seemed out of place standing on a Hong Kong street corner. But when I passed by, she smiled widely at me and said hello. I said Hello, back and started walking away. But she walked after me and started jabbering at me in Chinese as she grabbed my arm. I asked her what the price was and she held up 3 fingers. But I held up 2 at her, and she nodded her head in agreement. So off we went to her place, which was a short walk away.
As we walked, she reached out and held my hand and we crossed the street like boyfriend and girlfriend. She kept smiling at me too, and I sensed she really was happy to be "dating" a Caucasian man.
When we entered the room, she immediately put her arms around me and gave me a big hug, and then moved her mouth over to mine and started deep French kissing me. Of course I reciprocated and we spent about 10 minutes kissing away while sitting on the side of the bed.
I wanted to move things along, so I undressed and so did she. She cleaned me up, and then took a short shower. Afterwards we resumed kissing, which got me all hot and bothered. I then motioned for her to suck me, so she took my Durex out, slipped it on, and started licking away. After a couple of minutes she pulled her head up and said "Kiss", which was the only English word she spoke during the session. So we spent a few more minutes smacking away on the bed. But finally I was ready to get down to business. I was tired and knew I wasn’t going to cum too easily, but she didn’t mind the extra time I spent pounding her. We probably spent about 15 minutes screwing and she kept moaning like a woman giving birth, haha. From her body shudders I could tell she climaxed at least twice. Finally I blew my gasket, and got dressed. We walked hand in hand across the street back to her corner, and I gave her a big hug as I left.
$500 for two girls. No tips asked, no tips given. No money spent on short-time hotel rooms. In the past I have had some mediocre service given by Chinese women in Singapore, but so far I’ve had about 6 Chinese women on my HK trips and all have been satisfactory.
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After 5 trips to HKG in 6 months last year, I've had almost a year with no travel. Finally I'm heading back for a few days.
I ususually stop by K pressure as my post transpac flight reward. I'm short on time so want to maximize the fun.
I was wondering if anyone has ever tried to get 2 girls at once at K pressure?
Nuevo,
To answer your questions
1). A good map site for Hong Kong is [url]www.ypmap.com/en[/url] - with it you can look up any building or address in Hong Kong. Most of the places are located in the same couple of blocks in East Tsim Tsa Tsui.
2) The address for the New Paris Club is
96 Granville Road, 3/F Hilton Tower,
Tsim Sha Tsui East
Kowloon Hong Kong
The China Club is kitty corner across the square from it.
There are also a few clubs on Hong Kong side, most are harder to find though.
3) Take out charge varies but it is usally around $1,500 for the club and $1,500 for the girl. This is normally for about 2 hours but can be negotiated.
[QUOTE=Nuevo]Hello Rick,
I read your report on these clubs near Hilton Towers area. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...&postcount=2838[/url]
Sounds like a good way to start my first night in HK although it looks like a pricey way to start might trip. But, WTF. I would prefer an exceptional first experience with a Chinese girl rather than something less. Your post and a follow-up post by Le Licheur are the only ones I have found about this type of venue.
I am hoping that you might answer a couple (or more) questions.
1. Where is the Hilton Towers area? A Street name and address would be a great help. I did a google search and came up with nothing useful.
2. You mentioned the New Paris Club and China Club. Where are they located (street and address or some form of directions from Hilton Towers would be helpful). Are there other clubs that you would be willing to suggest?
3. I won't be arriving until 6:45 PM; so I will miss the Cha Mo (Tea dancing) time. Doesn't sound like first timers get a break in price for Cha Mo anyway. Do you have any idea of the charges for the post Cha Mo times that allow taking the girls out until 4AM.
I think that is enough to ask for now. I will appreciate anything you can offer on this subject.
If anyone else would like to contribute on this subject, please do.
Take care,
N1[/QUOTE]
That was a most excellent report.
Funny thing...... I've been to HK a few times. I went to Temple street last visit and was a bit intimidated as I've never been there before and didnt know my way around or what the vibe was.
Your report put it in perspective. Many thanks for taking the time to share as it will be most useful to me on my next visit!!!!
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Keen Eye Joe]Hey folks, I’m back from another trip to Asia, and I was able to spend a few days in HK. I met up with a 40 year old Filipina working as a domestic helper and she did a fine job of lowering my sperm count. But Joe likes variety, so during the hours she was working, I went out on the prowl. Here’s a compilation of what I found: [/QUOTE]
Further to Keen Eye Joe's good report on Kln SWs, I've found that while the girls can be good looking the rooms are often such a shithole, as Joe sez, and, well, it just aint pleasant. But anyway ...
On the issue of SWs I was walking along Woosung St (where K Pressure is) last Sat af'noon at about 1 pm. On the same side as KP, but about no. 69 (natch), there were some good looking SWs hanging around -- outside a shuttered shop. They all smiled and said hi, so they were obv up for it. I didnt enquire about price or where ever, as I was off elsewhere, but just add to the SW info in that area.
Further, on the SW scene, there used to be a lot of SWs hanging around at the Temple St / Kansu St junction -- as well as often in the corridors of the somewhat manky Alhambra Bldg. LE seems to be keeping that area clear now.
JS
Any reason why there is not T & A (travel plan & announcements) thread here? I would like to meet up for a couple days to scout Macau with someone. I've RTFF, so I'm not lazy. Be there mid July. PM me.
[QUOTE=Good N Plenty]Any reason why there is not T & A (travel plan & announcements) thread here? I would like to meet up for a couple days to scout Macau with someone. I've RTFF, so I'm not lazy. Be there mid July. PM me.[/QUOTE]Do you have subscription to receive PM here. I tried to send message to you for a possible meet up. I could not as it says you dont have permission. I am visiting HK soon. Will be there mid July.
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Can someone please tell me what the 'Hotel Reservation' means for the Address field for the gals on ****** dot com?
Is it the hotel reservation for the gal's room or is it reserving the gal for my hotel room?
This is my first time and am kinda confused... and this trip is a last minute planning so could not RTTF much although I did read a lot of reports of distinctions for a quick dump of sorts - which was pretty good...
Thanks,
-R.
[QUOTE=Rbamane]Can someone please tell me what the 'Hotel Reservation' means for the Address field for the gals on ****** dot com?
Is it the hotel reservation for the gal's room or is it reserving the gal for my hotel room?
This is my first time and am kinda confused... and this trip is a last minute planning so could not RTTF much although I did read a lot of reports of distinctions for a quick dump of sorts - which was pretty good...
Thanks,
-R.[/QUOTE]Hotel reservation is for you to meet the girl in her hotel place. When you call the number, manasan will answer. Mostly they speak english. When you book the girl, they will tell the hotel name and time. When you arrived at the hotel you can call them again to inform that you have arrived. Then they will inform you about the room number. This service is quite common in HK. Enjoy.
[QUOTE=Naxnax]Your subsription is not yet active. As Jackson mentioned it might take time depending on how you paid the fees. Let me know when i is active. Mine will expire in another 11 days. I will renew it a day before expiry as I use CC.
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I just read some more of the pages here...
Read and printed Tiger888's maps... quick doubt here - is K Pressure located at address 37 Dundas? Or is it somewhere else?
I ask this coz one of Distinction posts says - addresses of 37 Dundas & KP - but the 2 pdfs' names do not have KP in it ... hence the query...
Thanks again,
-R.
If you are still there, google hong kong sex and onefourone and site will come up.
[QUOTE=Rangerz99]Hi everyone. Yah. I been away fr too long but when you consider tht been busy cleaning up the house with an ex. Etc etc. Smetimes takes long. LOL
Okie. Now about business. I am in HK fr exactly 3 days. My second time. And been trying to hook up smething fr this eve. Everyone seems to quote 1200 HK$ for basic servuce and 600-700 frm the girls other services? Is tht a fair deal. Seems high to me because its US$250 almost.
May be my mind is skewed because juz rtrnd frm 15 days in Bali, jakarta and KL so you tend t get a bit spoiled.
Can smeone please please help. Good MP with services. WG / freelancing or any websites that have certain sevice level as experienced by fellow mongers. Will be a great great help.
Will update on recent escapades in other forums. And await some inputs for HK. Soon. Thanks all.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Naxnax]Hi Jackson
You mean my CC will be automatically used to pay for the renewal.
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WHAT I MEANT WAS THAT ANYTIME SOMEBODY BUYS A SUBSCRIPTION, WE LOOK TO SEE IF THEY HAVE AN EXISTING ACTIVE SUBSCRIPTION, AND IF THEY DO HAVE AN EXISGING ACTIVE SUBSCRIPTION, THEN WE ADD ANOTHER YEAR TO THE END OF THAT SUBSCRIPTION.
PLEASE DON'T SPREAD RUMORS THAT THIS WEBSITE HAS AUTOMATIC, REOCCURING SUBSCRIPTIONS!
THANKS,
JACKSON[/blue][/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification.
Hello,
Does anybody know of a very good wholesale dealer or megaplex in HK or Macau where you can buy camcorders at very good/cheap prices?
I will have a long layover that I am hoping will be productive.
Thanks
Hummer
Thanks buddy!
Appreciate your support and help,
-R.
[QUOTE=Naxnax]Hotel reservation is for you to meet the girl in her hotel place. When you call the number, manasan will answer. Mostly they speak english. When you book the girl, they will tell the hotel name and time. When you arrived at the hotel you can call them again to inform that you have arrived. Then they will inform you about the room number. This service is quite common in HK. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hummer Bird]Hello,
Does anybody know of a very good wholesale dealer or megaplex in HK or Macau where you can buy camcorders at very good/cheap prices?
I will have a long layover that I am hoping will be productive.
Thanks,
Hummer[/QUOTE]Hummer,
Tsim sha tsui Nathan rd has many shops that you where you buy cameras and camcorders.
This is a heavy tourtist area and many shop have the HK goverment aprroved shop.
I's a good place to start.
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=Hummer Bird]Hello,
Does anybody know of a very good wholesale dealer or megaplex in HK or Macau where you can buy camcorders at very good/cheap prices?
I will have a long layover that I am hoping will be productive.
Thanks,
Hummer[/QUOTE]Better buy either from Fortress or Broadway. All other place will definitely quote lesser price then these two trustable places. But they will cheat you somehow.
[QUOTE=Naxnax]Better buy either from Fortress or Broadway. All other place will definitely quote lesser price then these two trustable places. But they will cheat you somehow.[/QUOTE]
One place where you can get a good deal and will not be cheated (most of the places around this area do cheat) is
New Sankyo Camera Ltd.
in the building of the Holiday Inn, entrance from Mody Road. The owner Tony really knows his job (also a rare finding).
I buy from him since 15+ years and never paid more than 50 HKD over the best realistic quote I got for any item, and I talk prices in the 10000's.
But you need to ask what warranty you get. Some items don't have any, others worldwide or only Hong Kong.
This may be out of date but contact details for Tony
Tony Leung
[email]newsanky@hkstar.com[/email]
New Sankyo Camera Co, Ltd. Shop G-19 Golden Mile Holiday Inn 50 Nathan Rd. Kowloon HK Ph: +852-2367 0350
Get model numbers and call ahead.
He sold me a minolta SLR in 1986 and has helped several other friends. One of them had warranty problem with a Nikon and he shipped it to Tony who send new model replacement by return courier.
[QUOTE=Tiger 888]One place where you can get a good deal and will not be cheated (most of the places around this area do cheat) is
New Sankyo Camera Ltd.
in the building of the Holiday Inn, entrance from Mody Road. The owner Tony really knows his job (also a rare finding).
I buy from him since 15+ years and never paid more than 50 HKD over the best realistic quote I got for any item, and I talk prices in the 10000's.
But you need to ask what warranty you get. Some items don't have any, others worldwide or only Hong Kong.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]Nuevo,
To answer your questions
1). A good map site for Hong Kong is [url]www.ypmap.com/en[/url] - with it you can look up any building or address in Hong Kong. Most of the places are located in the same couple of blocks in East Tsim Tsa Tsui.
2) The address for the New Paris Club is
96 Granville Road, 3/F Hilton Tower,
Tsim Sha Tsui East
Kowloon Hong Kong
The China Club is kitty corner across the square from it.
There are also a few clubs on Hong Kong side, most are harder to find though.
3) Take out charge varies but it is usally around $1,500 for the club and $1,500 for the girl. This is normally for about 2 hours but can be negotiated.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Rick!
I love the map. Its an excellent resource. SUPER!!!! I even found Hilton Towers on the map. BTW, I had to add a "g" to the end of the web site link you provided to get it to come up.
Take care,
N1
[QUOTE=Eric Cartman]Hong Kong bars in Wan Chai.
Wan Chai has 2 streets that we found with the recommended bars: the main street has Fenwicks as well as Dreams II. One street closer to the water has Joe Bananas and Neptune II.
On a Monday night at 11pm, Fenwicks actually was pretty busy with a decent selection of Thai, Filipino, and Columbian girls. Dreams II was completely empty. Joe Bananas was pretty empty too. Neptune II was pretty full, seemed more friendly than Fenwicks, and got packed by 1am. Prices quoted by Filipina girls was about HK$1000.
English-language skills were at best mediocre. Surprising from Filipinas, who I thought learned English in school. Left without selecting anyone, having talked to 4 girls and bought drinks for 2.
-Cartman in Asia[/QUOTE]
Paid a first visit to Neptune's II the other night, after being an occasional visitor of Fenwick's for several years. I have to agree that Neptune's II looked much more friendly. It seemed Fenwick's was not what it used to be, darker atmosphere with most of the girls appearing to be hardened pros, vs. semi-pros at Neptune II.
I would not draw any definite conclusions from this one visit but just wanted to share this experience. As far as a report of what happened that night, I know something happened, for at 4AM I had some naked girl in my bed doing a great BBBJ, however that is all I remember! Sorry, too many drinks...
[QUOTE=Naxnax]Hotel reservation is for you to meet the girl in her hotel place. When you call the number, manasan will answer. Mostly they speak english. When you book the girl, they will tell the hotel name and time. When you arrived at the hotel you can call them again to inform that you have arrived. Then they will inform you about the room number. This service is quite common in HK. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Sometimes though, you can have the girl come to you. That's more available on an overnight term, as opposed to ST. I had that experience, but I paid 200 more for the privilege (taxi fare++).
[QUOTE=Keen Eye Joe]
Finding Chinese streetwalkers isn’t all that easy unless you know where to go find them. I’m sure they hang out in several places in the city, but I have found one tried and true place where you can always find pretty decent-looking Chinese streetwalkers who will provide adequate service. (Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so don’t flame me if you go there and think the women are ugly, ha ha).
I heartily recommend heading to the Temple Street market area of Kowloon. The best hours to find streetwalkers there are between 9 pm and 1 am, with the largest number of them out between 10 pm and midnight. After 2 am they pretty much all disappear.
For those of you know who do not know HK geography very well, the best way to get there is to take the MTR to the Jordan stop, then walk to the corner of Nathan and Jordan Roads. Cross Jordan Road and follow it to the left (west), so you will be walking on the right hand side of the road. If you see a lighted McDonalds sign, you know you’re going in the right direction.
Heading west from Nathan Road, you will begin crossing some small side streets. Parke is the first one, followed by Woosung. The third street is Temple Street, and if you turn right you will see this is where one of the large night markets is located. You need to walk north for a couple of blocks before you run into the wall to wall line of vendors selling all kinds of crap we can all live without.
Temple Street is closed to motor traffic and is pedestrian only. You can walk along the street in one of three ways. Most tourists walk up the center row of the market to gawk at the merchandise. But you can also walk along the two sidewalks between the backsides of the stalls and the storefronts.
What you need to do is walk along the left sidewalk, and on just about every street corner after 10 pm there are groups of two or three streetwalkers all the way up to the end of the market at Kansu Street. Prices asked by these girls are usually either $400 or $500. I always offer $100 less than they are asking, and I’ve never had a $400 girl who would not accept my $300 offer.
If you travel one block directly to the west of the market, you will find Shanghai Street. There are lots of streetwalkers who hang out here too, between Jordan Road and Kansu Streets. Prices here range from $300 to $500, but most of the $300 girls will accept $200.
Don’t expect any of these girls to speak any English, except the word "Massagie". But the language of lustful commerce is easy to speak. If you have a mobile phone, just type in the price you are willing to pay. Both of the women I had on this trip had their own rooms, so you won’t have to pay extra for accomodations. I was really nervous the first time I went upstairs with one, but I‘ve never had any problems. But I keep my credit cards and passport in the hotel room safe, and only bring a minimal amount of money with me.
The condition of the rooms varies from crappy to shitty. Oh this trip both women had the air conditioner going, so I didn’t get overheated. But these are not pleasant accomodations, and are strictly for "get it out, get it up, get it in, get it on, and get away" encounters.
[/QUOTE]
Excellent report and directions. I could follow everything regarding directions on the YPMap.
Regarding safety; is the area safe and would it be a bad idea to bring a camera and take flash pictures on the street in the market area. Its bad enough that I would stick out like a sore thumb as a white guy; but taking pics would certainly pinpoint me as a target in a potentially bad way.
Thanks,
N1
[QUOTE=Nuevo]Excellent report and directions. I could follow everything regarding directions on the YPMap.
Regarding safety; is the area safe and would it be a bad idea to bring a camera and take flash pictures on the street in the market area. Its bad enough that I would stick out like a sore thumb as a white guy; but taking pics would certainly pinpoint me as a target in a potentially bad way.
Thanks,
N1[/QUOTE]
You are as safe as houses in the Temple Street area - it is a bit of a tourist trap because of the night market. As a white man, you are even safer than others. Remember you are in one of the safest cities in the world and unless you are stupid you will be in no danger. I have been in and out of the many places there including "massage" rooms and always treated like royalty, and I don't speak one word of Chinese. You should still take the normal safety steps as in all cities and watch for pickpockets etc but really I have never heard of anything untoward there and I have been going for years. Taking pictures is fine - there will be plenty of others doing the same! I have it on good authority from the local LE there that crimes against white Europeans are almost non-existent. They don't bite the hand that feeds them.
Gentlemen,
I’ve never been to HK but will be soon this Summer. I’ll plan to stay there for 2 days. I’ve been reading the HK thread for the past few weeks, but it’s impossible to read all of them dating back the past few years. Many of you have talked about street walkers. I wonder if there are any legitimate (not ripped off) high class escort agencies there. For example, are the ones below legit? They look too good to be true though.
[url]www.hongkongescort.com/gallery.html[/url]
[url]www.escorthongkong.com/gallery.html[/url]
[url]www.hongkongescortandmore.com/mainpage.html[/url]
[url]www.delightgirls.com/mainpage1.htm[/url]
Do these agencies provide any GFE service you know of? If you just assume that money is not a major issue, how much would it cost for a high class lady that provides DFK and BBBJ, say for an hour and/or over night? I’ve emailed these agencies but got no response.
I’m not into massages that much. My preferences lie in the model looking type of tall women with natural tits like some of the ones shown in the websites above. I also see some white girls there. Are they for real? The delightgirls’ service page was taken out directory from a porn movie. It looks very suspicious to me. If these websites are not what they claim to be, what/where would you advise?
Many thanks
[QUOTE=Investor]Gentlemen,
I’ve never been to HK but will be soon this Summer. I’ll plan to stay there for 2 days. I’ve been reading the HK thread for the past few weeks, but it’s impossible to read all of them dating back the past few years. Many of you have talked about street walkers. I wonder if there are any legitimate (not ripped off) high class escort agencies there. For example, are the ones below legit? They look too good to be true though.
[url]www.hongkongescort.com/gallery.html[/url]
[url]www.escorthongkong.com/gallery.html[/url]
[url]www.hongkongescortandmore.com/mainpage.html[/url]
[url]www.delightgirls.com/mainpage1.htm[/url]
Do these agencies provide any GFE service you know of? If you just assume that money is not a major issue, how much would it cost for a high class lady that provides DFK and BBBJ, say for an hour and/or over night? I’ve emailed these agencies but got no response.
I’m not into massages that much. My preferences lie in the model looking type of tall women with natural tits like some of the ones shown in the websites above. I also see some white girls there. Are they for real? The delightgirls’ service page was taken out directory from a porn movie. It looks very suspicious to me. If these websites are not what they claim to be, what/where would you advise?
Many thanks[/QUOTE]
All those websites are complete bullshit. They get their photos from other websites in the UK and US.
Just walk into Fenwicks or Neptunes after 11pm and you will have a vast selection of nationalities and prices.
[QUOTE=Investor]Gentlemen,
I’ve never been to HK but will be soon this Summer. I’ll plan to stay there for 2 days. I’ve been reading the HK thread for the past few weeks, but it’s impossible to read all of them dating back the past few years. Many of you have talked about street walkers. I wonder if there are any legitimate (not ripped off) high class escort agencies there. For example, are the ones below legit? They look too good to be true though.
[url]www.hongkongescort.com/gallery.html[/url]
[url]www.escorthongkong.com/gallery.html[/url]
[url]www.hongkongescortandmore.com/mainpage.html[/url]
[url]www.delightgirls.com/mainpage1.htm[/url]
Do these agencies provide any GFE service you know of? If you just assume that money is not a major issue, how much would it cost for a high class lady that provides DFK and BBBJ, say for an hour and/or over night? I’ve emailed these agencies but got no response.
I’m not into massages that much. My preferences lie in the model looking type of tall women with natural tits like some of the ones shown in the websites above. I also see some white girls there. Are they for real? The delightgirls’ service page was taken out directory from a porn movie. It looks very suspicious to me. If these websites are not what they claim to be, what/where would you advise?
Many thanks[/QUOTE]As HK dog mentioned do not ever try these websites. In HK better try the night clubs, saunas 141 gals. If you really want to have a different experience then Macau saunas and night clubs are good options as well. I myself will be in HK after 15th June for 7 weeks. If you do not mind joining me to get some help to go around then you are welcome. You need paid membership in ISG to send PM to me.
[QUOTE=Mahal]Paid a first visit to Neptune's II the other night, after being an occasional visitor of Fenwick's for several years. I have to agree that Neptune's II looked much more friendly. It seemed Fenwick's was not what it used to be, darker atmosphere with most of the girls appearing to be hardened pros, vs. semi-pros at Neptune II.
I would not draw any definite conclusions from this one visit but just wanted to share this experience. As far as a report of what happened that night, I know something happened, for at 4AM I had some naked girl in my bed doing a great BBBJ, however that is all I remember! Sorry, too many drinks...[/QUOTE]Scouted the area Tuesday night. Fenwicks, had the usually array of Columbians but not much else. New Makati was dead, Joe Bananas almost dead. Hit paydirt in Neptunes - the place was jumping.
Stood next to a group of thai girls - one was particularly hot so going with my standard modus operandi I chose the next hottest one to strike a conversation with. Turns out she just got into town (bonus points) and was returning to the game after a lay-off in the US.
No discussion on price, just took her to my hotel and had a BJ, FJ and CIM that will go down in my all time top ten.
Will venture out tonight late. Hoping New Makati will have something more to offer - a year ago had a most memorable night with some "sisters" from there and would be sad if it's really as bad as it was on Tuesday.
Enjoy!
So, I was in Hong Kong last week and tried my first 141 girl. Kit, Champagne Court B, Tsim Sha Tsui. I'm ABC, and she spoke very little English. I asked for her whole package rate, and she replied HK$500. Despite knowing that the site said HK$480, I was ok with proceeding because I was eyeing her large tits.
So we showered up and she gave an ok massage for about 10 minutes. A bit too hard on the lower back, but I bore it in stride and waited for the more exciting part. Once she finished, I flipped over and she started kissing me all over, though not LFK/DFK. She eventually got down to where she was going to give me a BJ, and to my surprise, it was a BBBJ. From what I read in previous posts, I think it's rare that a 141 girl will blow a guy BB. So I enjoyed that for about 10 minutes. She then put on a cover and hopped on for some CG. While she was riding me, I asked her how much for 2 pops. She quoted HK$900. I wasn't in the mood for negotiating (probably cause we were fucking and my little head was overriding my big head), so I agreed. Soon after, I popped. She cleaned me up a bit, but not too thoroughly. So there was still some cum on my dick.
We cuddled for a short bit, but then proceeded to try to get me hard again. She went straight for a BBBJ, even with the residual cum all over my dick. Now, in the US, I typically have a decent break between pops. This is more because most encounters are a combination of time and pops. So if you schedule an hour, you get 2 pops. Half an hour = 1 pop. So you have time to recover. Unfortunately, with Kit wanting to get started so quickly, things didn't pick up. Finally, I started getting hard after a while, but not hard enough to fuck. Nonetheless, Kit stuck on a cover and I tried to fuck her in mish. I didn't stay hard long, so I pulled out and was going to call it a day.
But Kit was a trouper. She said for HK$1000, she would let me cum in her mouth. I figured she could be at this for a while considering my dick wasn't up for it yet, so I wasn't considering passing. But I figured why not? So she went back to blowing me, and she was really at it. She then swung her legs around, and we proceeded to 69. For some reason, I really love eating out a girl's pussy while she's blowing me. In no time at all, I was hard, and Kit put on a cover, to which we then fucked in missionary position. I'm sure it was just a facade, but she really looked at me while we were fucking, and I slowed down to a pace that was more loving than fucking (if you know what I mean). I really enjoyed it. She was moaning and wrapping her legs around me. Pretty soon she started cumming and that got me off. I laid on top of her for a while kissing. She still had her legs around me for a while until I finally push myself up off her. She cleaned me up, and we took a shower together.
Although I didn't cum in her mouth, I still gave her the HK$1000 plus an extra $100. I wish I could have gone back while I was in HK, but I was with a lot of friends who don't hobby. So I didn't have time. But I certainly enjoyed my time with her.
Used to live in HK and go there every 6 months. Often do a nromal take out from all the places we know and love and have a lot of numbers on my phone for when I'm in need.
Bu this trip decided to be a bit different. And have me a busy sked.
Will arrive and soon thereafter meet an Indo girl on her day off. Known her four years. Weve had many Sunday afternoons doing the dirty. Haven't seen her for a while but she always shows up pantieless so its fine and fun.
From there hopefully can get to Laguna for some beers and dirty dancing whch is always fine. And then to airport to go meet Ms Makati. Bedded her in Manila a few months back and shes been begging (great for the ego! ) for me to go back. CAn quite schedule it so invited her and paid half her ticket.
Is a bank clerk there, not a player, but think wil lintroduce her to the dirtier side of HK.
She will leave on Tuesday night and from there have an appointment with another Indo. Gorgoeus girl whos married, but husband is away. Shes very dirty and was wanking me of one night during Rugby 7's in New Makati. Then home to hubby. Anyways promises to be a few days of fun. An whilst I'm paying for hotel, and food and drinks at least the fucks will be free. And plentiful!
[QUOTE=Investor]Gentlemen,
I’ve never been to HK but will be soon this Summer. I’ll plan to stay there for 2 days. I’ve been reading the HK thread for the past few weeks, but it’s impossible to read all of them dating back the past few years. Many of you have talked about street walkers. I wonder if there are any legitimate (not ripped off) high class escort agencies there. For example, are the ones below legit? They look too good to be true though.
[url]www.hongkongescort.com/gallery.html[/url]
[url]www.escorthongkong.com/gallery.html[/url]
[url]www.hongkongescortandmore.com/mainpage.html[/url]
[url]www.delightgirls.com/mainpage1.htm[/url]
Do these agencies provide any GFE service you know of? If you just assume that money is not a major issue, how much would it cost for a high class lady that provides DFK and BBBJ, say for an hour and/or over night? I’ve emailed these agencies but got no response.
I’m not into massages that much. My preferences lie in the model looking type of tall women with natural tits like some of the ones shown in the websites above. I also see some white girls there. Are they for real? The delightgirls’ service page was taken out directory from a porn movie. It looks very suspicious to me. If these websites are not what they claim to be, what/where would you advise?
Many thanks[/QUOTE]
Investor:
HK Dog gave you the best advice of all. Ignore the websites and go directly to Fenwicks!
Woodman
I am arriving in Hong Kong on Sunday night. I have done Sauna 18 in Macau and 37 Dundas, but I would like to expand my mongering horizons. If anybody is interested in joining me for an evening or two of heavy mongering in Hong Kong or Macau, drop me a PM please.
Question: do you generally tip the girls at 37 Dundas?
Got to HK late Saturday and decided I wanted to replenish my supply of performance enhancers. I had read some earlier posts about buying either viagra or cialis in HK. Went into a small Chinese pharmacy midway between the Holiday Inn and Shangri La in Kowloon and asked if they sold either. The guy there had no problems with providing it. Never was any conversation about a prescription. I asked him if it was real or fake. He pulled out another box that looked fake and said he had both but swore what he was giving me was real.
I ended up buying 4 tablets of Cialis for $300HK. The packaging looks real to me. If it is a fake, it is a very good one. All in all, the purchase was no problem. Based upon previous posts, I was worried about being asked for a prescription, but the subject never came up.
I have done the RTFF bit not a problem.
just want to know the bar situation in Wan Chai, either Neptunes II or Fenwicks will be in HK in June, how are the prices stacking up I have been paying about HK$1500 for LT but at about 11pm to midnight..
Thanks,
Wizard
[QUOTE=Graybeard]Question: do you generally tip the girls at 37 Dundas?[/QUOTE]I usually tip 100 for good service or if I received extras (e.g. CIM).
[QUOTE=Thor93]Got to HK late Saturday and decided I wanted to replenish my supply of performance enhancers. I had read some earlier posts about buying either viagra or cialis in HK. Went into a small Chinese pharmacy midway between the Holiday Inn and Shangri La in Kowloon and asked if they sold either. The guy there had no problems with providing it. Never was any conversation about a prescription. I asked him if it was real or fake. He pulled out another box that looked fake and said he had both but swore what he was giving me was real.
I ended up buying 4 tablets of Cialis for $300HK. The packaging looks real to me. If it is a fake, it is a very good one. All in all, the purchase was no problem. Based upon previous posts, I was worried about being asked for a prescription, but the subject never came up.[/QUOTE]
If that is real Cialis, then you paid a very good price. Back in January Cialis was sold in HK for HKD360 and later in April it went up to HK$380. This is at a few pharmacies that had been mentioned here. What is called "real" is distributed by a local company and has a hologram on the box and the logo on the inside two pill holders changes color at different angles.
APAC Man
[QUOTE=Apac Man]If that is real Cialis, then you paid a very good price. Back in January Cialis was sold in HK for HKD360 and later in April it went up to HK$380. This is at a few pharmacies that had been mentioned here. What is called "real" is distributed by a local company and has a hologram on the box and the logo on the inside two pill holders changes color at different angles.
APAC Man[/QUOTE]
It looks real to me. As I said, he showed me the fake version, which is as you described. The box I got looks identical to stuff I have bought in the US. If if it is a fake, they copied it down to the last detail, including a perfect rendition of the informational brochure inside.
[QUOTE=Naxnax]As HK dog mentioned do not ever try these websites. In HK better try the night clubs, saunas 141 gals. If you really want to have a different experience then Macau saunas and night clubs are good options as well. I myself will be in HK after 15th June for 7 weeks. If you do not mind joining me to get some help to go around then you are welcome. You need paid membership in ISG to send PM to me.[/QUOTE]Hey, thank you for the advice. You guys confirmed my suspicion about those websites. They look too good to be true. I’ll pass. Naxnax, I would not mind to join you, but I won’t be there until August or September. I may try Macau too. Do you speak Cantonese or Mandarin? I guess I’ll read some more posts on the Macau thread.
I will definitely check out Fenwicks and Neptunes. Regarding to the night clubs, I read about how the mamisan brought in the girls one by one for you to choose from. What happens after mamisan brings in 3 or 4 ladies, and you still don’t like any of them? Would she get pissed and show you the door? I’m afraid that may end up happening to me. I wish they would show you 20+ girls at once and allow you to pick one. You see. I tend to be extremely picky when come to women, granted that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I checked out the 141 gals websites. I found only 2 or 3 (out of 50 I’ve looked at) that I like, but my concern is that those 3 may not be available when I get there. I figure I need a backup plan. How likely would you say I can find a 9 or 10 model or playboy looking types in Fenwicks or Neptunes? I don’t mind to pay little bit more if I can find the right type. I guess my philosophy is that if one is gonna pay to get some, why not pay for the cream of the crops. Do you think I get a better chance to find my type in HK or Macau? Would you guys mind telling me the names of the specific clubs (in HK and Macau) that you think I'll have a very good chance to find a 9 or 10? I will keep on RTFF.
[QUOTE=Investor]. I checked out the 141 gals websites. I found only 2 or 3 (out of 50 I’ve looked at) that I like, but my concern is that those 3 may not be available when I get there.[/QUOTE]
Whats more likely is that 2 out of those 3 would have been heavily photo shopped and you will still be disappointed!!!
Wan Chai has some top talent (Fenwicks/Neptunes) and the 1 or 2 extreme hotties are picky who they go with but cash is always King.
Macau nightclubs also have top talent but unless you speak Mandarin don't count on any stimulating conversation.
[QUOTE=Investor]Naxnax, I would not mind to join you, but I won’t be there until August or September. I may try Macau too. Do you speak Cantonese or Mandarin? I guess I’ll read some more posts on the Macau thread.[/QUOTE]I will be in HK until the first week of August. If you happen to be there then we could meet. I do not speak Cantonese or Putungua. But I know the places in HK and Macau.
You can be picky in selecting the gals. As HK dog mentioned many 141 gals photos are photoshoped. So when you see them in person, you may have different opinion. So it might be hit and go for you. More young and beautiful looking 141 glas are not walk-ups. Only in hotel reservations you find the good looking one. Try Neptunes in the night or Paris club in the evening for your choice.
In Macau definitely you will find interesting good looking ones in Saunas like D1, 18 and Rio. They call it as model gals. Sometimes in Macau night clubs you can find interesting gals. But languague might be a problem there. If you got money you can always try there to wait until you find your gals within few round-ups. As far as I know if you do not like any gals in the nightclubs you can just pay the bill (might go anywhere up 1800) and get out. If you get a gal then another 1800 may be to pop. At saunas you can get a gla for only 1800 with some extra services as well.
Let me tell, somebody could classify 37 Dundas as a national treasure. I’ve been to 37 Dundas several times and I just love everything about the place.
First of all the prices are a little higher. The bang session is now 390 and the room rental is 100. I still consider it a bargain though.
After walking up to the second story, I am greeted by a very welcoming and enthusiastic mama-san who spoke very good English. She made me feel very welcome.
She asked me if it was my first time. She didn’t ask to make small talk, but instead was prepared to give me a thorough explanation of how things work. Rookies would find that very useful.
She then escorted me into a small room with a comfortable leather-covered bench to wait while she brought me a lineup of girls. She asked me what I wanted to (free) drink and I requested beer. A young waitress showed up 2 minutes later with not 1 but 2 free beers. I settled back and watched some American porn that was playing on the TV.
About 3-4 minutes later, the mana-san showed up with 4 girls. All of them were above average 6 to 7’s but one was very, very cute. Her name was Eileen or Ah-Lynn or something like that. Awesome body, skinny legs, tight ass, nice B-sized tits, cute face, and beautiful curled hair. I’d say she was a solid 8 and couldn’t wait to bang her.
The mama-san dismissed all the girls and asked me for payment. I gave her a $1,000 note and she returned in less than a minute with my change of $510. At first, I was worried that I was getting ripped off the price was $390…not $490. What happened though was the mama-san gave $100 room rental to the girl. No ripoff whatever; just a slightly different procedure than before.
Ah-Lynn took me hand-and-hand up 2 flights of stairs to the hotel part of the building and paid the attendant $100 for the room rental. All this time, she was smiling at me, hugging me, and giving me the total GFE.
We went into the room and she launched into a total GFE. Deep French kissing, rubbing me, disrobing me, and smacking her lips at the sight of my member.
She undressed and she had beautiful, large tits, a rock-hard ass, long slender legs, and a nice little partially--shaved snatch.
She took me into the shower, washed me thoroughly, used her tits a wash cloth, stroked my meat, and then gave me an awesome BBBJ in the shower.
After 15 minutes in the shower, we moved to the bed which has a very useful mirror above it. I then got the full catbath, some more BBBJ, and then a wild enthusiastic cowgirl. The sight of her tits bouncing around plus her pleasingly tight pussy and Merryl Streep-type acting performance almost made me blow my wad right away.
I banged her in almost every imaginable position and did everything I wanted to her. It was great.
I’d give Ah-Lynn an 8 for looks and 10 for skill. I highly recommend her and I highly recommend 37 Dundas!
I prefer the saunas on Macau such as Sauna 18 or Darlings...but those are three times the price. 37 Dundas is the first place I go when I arrive in Hong Kong and I highly, highly recommended it. Especially for newbies!
[QUOTE=Graybeard]I am arriving in Hong Kong on Sunday night. I have done Sauna 18 in Macau and 37 Dundas, but I would like to expand my mongering horizons. If anybody is interested in joining me for an evening or two of heavy mongering in Hong Kong or Macau, drop me a PM please.
Question: do you generally tip the girls at 37 Dundas?[/QUOTE]
Glad you enjoyed the 37D experience. I agree that it is a great experience at the right price and convenience (ie not getting on a boat or train). Despite what some members might say, tipping is not the norm in Asia and HK. Not at restaurants or mongering locations. No tipping required at 37D. Period.
Was in Hong Kong and with sometime left before getting the cross border bus back to a China, went to a Starbucks in the corner of Pak Hoi Street and Nathan Road to use the wifi to check out the 141 and 161 websites. Look around for any nearby identifiable place and saw one advertised as ‘Body Massage’ in the 161 website. Called up and walk the short distance up the stairs and on to a mezzanine floor. I was met by a mainland girl who was on the phone earlier. Not much on looks but made up for any flaw by being very friendly and providing fairly decent massage. After the usual back massage, the turn over was quickly followed by a menu of extra services which cost from 100 for a handjob to 300 for the full works. Having declined her offer for extras, came the normal story that the girls do not make anything from the advertised fee of 138 but have to rely on the extras. Tend to believe her as 138 is not much in an expensive place like Hong Kong, so I offered her 100 to complete the one hour and left. While I went to this place to pass the time waiting for the bus and not met any girl which I would like to go with all the way, the visit to this place though basic could have been very different by having some other girl who may just cause me to miss the bus.
The last couple months I have been traveling for work and not in Hong Kong to much and when I have been back here I have mostly been playing around with Chinese girls or in Wan Chai on Sunday afternoons.
Last night was the first time in a few months when I was looking to pick up in Wan Chai. While it was a little early, 10pm, the bars were empty. I was shocked as I have never seen it so empty at 10pm. There was almost no one in Neptunes, Fenwicks or New Makahti. Laguna did not have too many girls either. I picked the best looking girl from Laguna, although that was not saying much (she did have a tonge stud and nice breasts though) and took her nearby for a shorttime with CIM and full service.
Are the all the new mainland China visa restrictions that are causing business people headaches also affecting all the working girls? I had figured with the whole, and hopefully only temporary until the Olympics are over, visa situation with mainland China that girls would just start doing a visa run to Macau instead. Sure the ferry tickets cost more but there is no visa fee. Or is it that the Hong Kong dollar keeps dropping in value relative to the Baht and Peso?
It was quite disappointing. I may have to get my brown skinned fix while traveling and on Sunday afternoons and just have Chinese girls during the week
[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]
Last night was the first time in a few months when I was looking to pick up in Wan Chai. While it was a little early, 10pm, the bars were empty. I was shocked as I have never seen it so empty at 10pm. There was almost no one in Neptunes, Fenwicks or New Makahti. Laguna did not have too many girls either. I picked the best looking girl from Laguna, although that was not saying much (she did have a tonge stud and nice breasts though) and took her nearby for a shorttime with CIM and full service.
Are the all the new mainland China visa restrictions that are causing business people headaches also affecting all the working girls? I had figured with the whole, and hopefully only temporary until the Olympics are over, visa situation with mainland China that girls would just start doing a visa run to Macau instead. Sure the ferry tickets cost more but there is no visa fee. Or is it that the Hong Kong dollar keeps dropping in value relative to the Baht and Peso?
It was quite disappointing. I may have to get my brown skinned fix while traveling and on Sunday afternoons and just have Chinese girls during the week[/QUOTE]
I will be heading over to Wan Chai tonight - hope I don't see the same thing. I guess I better head on down to Bangkok a day early.
As far as I know, Hong Kong visa rules are unaffected by what the mainland Chinese are doing. But you are right about the hassle now of getting a Chinese visa. Anyone planning a trip to the mainland needs to know that the rules have been changed and it is a real pain getting a chinese visa. Luckily I renewed mine in January under the old rules. Another guy from my company had to get a new one for this trip and it was a pain. He only finally got the visa the day before we left. You now need all sorts of extra documentation and approvals from government agencies in China.
[QUOTE=Thor93]I will be heading over to Wan Chai tonight - hope I don't see the same thing. I guess I better head on down to Bangkok a day early.
As far as I know, Hong Kong visa rules are unaffected by what the mainland Chinese are doing. But you are right about the hassle now of getting a Chinese visa. Anyone planning a trip to the mainland needs to know that the rules have been changed and it is a real pain getting a chinese visa. Luckily I renewed mine in January under the old rules. Another guy from my company had to get a new one for this trip and it was a pain. He only finally got the visa the day before we left. You now need all sorts of extra documentation and approvals from government agencies in China.[/QUOTE]
Thor93 you are right Hong Kong visas have not been affected by what it going on with the mainland visas. What I was refering to is flippers only get 14 days on arrival in Hong Kong so they typically do a few runs to the mainland border to exit and reenter Hong Kong but they need a mainland visa to do so. (Same for Thai girls but they get 1 month visas when they arrive in Hong Kong so they only need to do the border run half as often). Most girls do not make enough to be happy going back home after only 2 or 4 weeks.
I couldn’t help myself. I went back to 37 Dundas again!
I went at 1:00 in the afternoon this time. The procedure was the same as before.
Enthusiastic welcome, ushered into private room, watch some porn, drink a free beer, and wait 4-5 minutes for the lineup of girls to show up.
The mama-san brought in 4 girls, but all of them were older than I prefer (30-plus) and not as slender as I prefer. I would say all of them were 5’s and 6’s.
I rejected the entire group and after another 4-5 minutes, she returned with 3 new girls. This time, every one of the 3 girls was very, very attractive, slim, and full of smiles toward me. This new group was 7’s and 8’s.
I think there is a lesson to be learned from my experience --- it pays to be picky at 37 Dundas.
I think the mama-san brought me the girls that don’t get picked a lot because (a) it was in the early afternoon and/or (b) she assumed an old fart like me would fuck anything she put in front of me.
If you don’t see what you like, ask to see another group of women. Being picky pays off at 37 Dundas.
Has anybody else had a similar experience?
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[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]Thor93 you are right Hong Kong visas have not been affected by what it going on with the mainland visas. What I was refering to is flippers only get 14 days on arrival in Hong Kong so they typically do a few runs to the mainland border to exit and reenter Hong Kong but they need a mainland visa to do so. (Same for Thai girls but they get 1 month visas when they arrive in Hong Kong so they only need to do the border run half as often). Most girls do not make enough to be happy going back home after only 2 or 4 weeks.[/QUOTE]
Right, this is going to cut down on the filipino contingent since they like to make that quick trip across the border to get the HK visa renewed.
I did go over to Fenwicks and Neptune II last night. Both places had a decent crowd. I hooked up with a nice Thai girl in Neptune. It was a pleasant enough encounter, but nothing really outstanding and today I wish I had not bothered. But it was a decent stress relief. Still it was silly of me to spend the money in HK when I am going to be in Bangkok tonight.
Hi Guys,
I have looked but cannot quickly find the answer.
I know that there was another web site similar to 141. Is it still in existence? Would someone please reply with the # or PM me?
Thanks,
ER2
[QUOTE=Thor93]Right, this is going to cut down on the filipino contingent since they like to make that quick trip across the border to get the HK visa renewed.
I did go over to Fenwicks and Neptune II last night. Both places had a decent crowd. I hooked up with a nice Thai girl in Neptune. It was a pleasant enough encounter, but nothing really outstanding and today I wish I had not bothered. But it was a decent stress relief. Still it was silly of me to spend the money in HK when I am going to be in Bangkok tonight.[/QUOTE]So what was the damage, for the Thai girl, ST or LT?
Wizard
i had 3 days of work in hk this week and my hotel was langham in mongkok. walked a few blocks to 37 dundas and tried both places (1st and 2nd floor). the first floor is definately the lower quality girl and i always seem to get some gal that wants to wash me for 15 min and suck my toes for 10 min. the upper floor girl was a littler better, but overall this place is for if you are really in need of some release.
the street action was being cleaned up by the hkpd. saw a few pimps being interviewed while the girls rep001tered.
i don't like the yellow sign places as it is hard to get comfortable in a room not so clean and 3-4 guys waiting outside.
i tried a place called the massage place on portland st just a few steps from kfc. after being told the whole menu i decide to take the 2 girl massage for 930hk$. this is will get your 45 min with 2 girls massage and then 1 girl leaves so the other girl can finish the last 45 min however you like.
next time in hk i will try 141 girl. i would have tried this long ago but i am not chinese and cannot speak the cantonese.
now i am off to pattaya!
da
The sites use the number 161 sometimes.
[QUOTE=Easy Rider 2]Hi Guys,
I have looked but cannot quickly find the answer.
I know that there was another web site similar to 141. Is it still in existence? Would someone please reply with the # or PM me?
Thanks,
ER2[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dumbass]I had 3 days of work in HK this week and my hotel was Langham in Mongkok. Walked a few blocks to 37 dundas and tried both places (1st and 2nd floor). The first floor is definately the lower quality girl and I always seem to get some gal that wants to wash me for 15 min and suck my toes for 10 min. The upper floor girl was a littler better, but overall this place is for if you are really in need of some release.
now I am off to Pattaya!
DA[/QUOTE]If you're not into toe-sucking or anything else, don't be shy in letting them know. It's your time and money. I think the girls are trained to go through a certain regiment with us, whether they want to or not. For example, it's compulsory at some places that the girl licks your ass. Now I'm not comfortable with that at all and I'll tell the girl to just go straight to BJ. I'm sure the girl would rather keep her tongue away from my smell crack anyways.
I was just in Pattaya last month. Now that's the supreme place for mongering!
Hi All,
I'm new to the 141 scene. So I have a question. If I go to a 141 building and I knock on a door and the girl that opens up isn't what I was looking for, what do I do? I mean, is she gonna be pissed that I'm rejecting her? Because I'm pretty she would know what is going on (I don't find her attractive enough). I guess it's kind of a silly question, and maybe I'm just not good at rejecting women. But what should I say/do?
Thanks
There's a number of different ways to monger, but my recent preference has been the bar scene, as opposed to the saunas, 141's, escort services, massage parlors, KTV's, etc. While having tried most of the different varieties of entertainment I guess that I tend to gravitate back to the bar/disco scene. In HK where I will likely visit more than other Asian cities in the near future, wondering what other top bars/disco's in HK that some of the members here will recommend.
As I'm travelling on business and staying typically is 4-5 star hotels, I've found good times in JJ's (Hyatt); Lobster Bar (Shangrila); Hari's (Holiday Inn). I'm still a relative newcomer (language is a problem) so the hotel bars are the easiest, although choice and variety is sometimes limited. There also ones you can easily go with business associates to find out their interests in co-mongering.
Wanchai bars are fun, and will need to do more exploring there, but not sure if they're appropriate to bring my associates until further assessment
Cheers
Just say no thank you. She will close the door and you go ring the bell on another door. They're very used to this.
[QUOTE=Nasty Nate 87]Hi All,
I'm new to the 141 scene. So I have a question. If I go to a 141 building and I knock on a door and the girl that opens up isn't what I was looking for, what do I do? I mean, is she gonna be pissed that I'm rejecting her? Because I'm pretty she would know what is going on (I don't find her attractive enough). I guess it's kind of a silly question, and maybe I'm just not good at rejecting women. But what should I say/do?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Coming to HK as from the 12th for a week, and looking for a partner to look around and have some fun. Also interested to go to Macau for a day / night. Please PM me if you are interested to join and we can arrange to meet.
Have read most reports very informative. Thank u. From the reports it suggests that if you go to one of the big saunas, eg 18 etc, you don't need a hotel room, could somebody clarify whether you actually get your own room for free there, because I don't fancy sleeping on a chair or a recliner, however comfy this is.
Aris.
P.S. Anybody knows if you need extra visa for Macau.
When you go all, you will have a hit list from the websites for a given building. In addition, there will be some girls with rooms on other websites (Chinese only) or that were once on website and now are not etc. As you walk around if you buzz and don't find what you want, ask about one on your list, they will sometimes shrug, other times say "holiday" (out) or give directions. Some girls will come out to talk to you even if you don't buzz - its just business for them. Also if you get in the room and are not sure about sex, you can ask to start with Massage only.
[QUOTE=Nasty Nate 87]Hi All,
I'm new to the 141 scene. So I have a question. If I go to a 141 building and I knock on a door and the girl that opens up isn't what I was looking for, what do I do? I mean, is she gonna be pissed that I'm rejecting her? Because I'm pretty she would know what is going on (I don't find her attractive enough). I guess it's kind of a silly question, and maybe I'm just not good at rejecting women. But what should I say/do?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Thor93]I will be heading over to Wan Chai tonight - hope I don't see the same thing. I guess I better head on down to Bangkok a day early.
As far as I know, Hong Kong visa rules are unaffected by what the mainland Chinese are doing. But you are right about the hassle now of getting a Chinese visa. Anyone planning a trip to the mainland needs to know that the rules have been changed and it is a real pain getting a chinese visa. Luckily I renewed mine in January under the old rules. Another guy from my company had to get a new one for this trip and it was a pain. He only finally got the visa the day before we left. You now need all sorts of extra documentation and approvals from government agencies in China.[/QUOTE]
I just did a trip to HK and on to Shenzen (June 7-9). I am not sure what are the new headaches for business visa but while applying for a Chinese business visa in Los Angeles the counter girl changed the request to a Tourist visa, even though I had a letter from the Chinese company. Even though I did not understand at that time, looks like I lucked out.
On the P4P front I was in the Murphy's Bar (basement Imperial Hotel, Nathan Road) when about four Fillipinas dropped by my table. Well, to be honest they were after the hansum young German guy at the next table.:(
Anyway, struck up conversation with one of them named Sheila. Apparently they had paid a manager (?) 7K (HKD) for a two week run and they had to raise that much to pay him off. Anything extra was theirs. They were hungry and broke (sob story?). Being generous (and drunk) bought her a meal. At least she was hungry as she cleaned off her plate. Then the obvious question came up.
Want company?
How much?
1500 dollars.
I may have had a few too many. But am I that stupid. Of course not. My brain goes to a calculator mode. Hmmmm, thats about 200 USD. No Way.
You know what, dear?
What?
I think I had too much, so I think I will pass.
Disappointed look.
So I squeeze her butt (discretely, of course and say) Ok, how about you come tomorrow morning to my room. Say about 9 a.m.?
OK
Next morning, wake up at 6 a.m. with a headache and the pounding rain on the windows isn't helping much. (I learn later that they had declared a Red Alert condition, which means all of HK is pretty much shutdown).
Guess what. Promptly at 9 am, there is a knock on the door. There stands Sheila with a friend of hers, both soaking wet. The friend is cute, but Sheila definitely looked prettier the night before.
Now, fellow mongerers. Who would have thought that they would really come. In all the torrential rain with a Red alert nonetheless?
To make a long story short, paid them 150 HKD to leave after promising them I would call her (Sheila) in a couple of weeks when I return. Yes, I felt guilty having deprived them of some earnings.
Lessons learnt:
They always look georgeous when you are drunk.
Never underestimate them and so don't give out your room number.
I stayed at the Chunking Mansion a few months ago.
The postings about needing extra documents are correct. China gov wants proof of hotel booking and a return air ticket. I went to an agent who could arrange everything, including a hotel/air ticket that is conveniently cancelled after you enter China. I paid 1200 HK dollars but this was for TWO people, so about 600 HK dollars a piece. I got a receipt and returned the next day to collect my passport with new visa, no problems. I got a 3 month double entry visa, but I have to leave every 30 days. My visa will expire again very soon, I will be repeating the same process.
Considering the expensive nature of traveling in HK and the long lines to get a visa, it is best to have an agent do all the work.
If you get a single entry visa, the price will be lower than what I stated.
If anyone wants to know the name of the agent, please send me a PM.
July 14-15 - want stunners.
[QUOTE=Duniawala]
To make a long story short, paid them 150 HKD to leave after promising them I would call her (Sheila) in a couple of weeks when I return. Yes, I felt guilty having deprived them of some earnings.
[/QUOTE]
Dude are you gay? That was a terrible story.
Two filipa girls shows up at your door soaking wet ready to party, in a HK hotel room with the entire HK island shut down at 9am in the morning. Dude are you gay?
After confiding in you that they're hungry and broke, looking for honest work and shelter, you invite them there then send them out into the rain like dogs with nothing but scraps?
Remind me not to party with a party animal like you, dude. You're a worse drunk than that dude lost the phone in the SZ thread.
Did you even offer towels or something to drink? Next time find them and buy them a nice dinner and apologize.
HT
[QUOTE=Hat Trick]Dude are you gay? That was a terrible story.
Two filipa girls shows up at your door soaking wet ready to party, in a HK hotel room with the entire HK island shut down at 9am in the morning. Dude are you gay?
After confiding in you that they're hungry and broke, looking for honest work and shelter, you invite them here then send them out into the rain like dogs with nothing but scraps?
Remind me not to party with a party animal like you, dude. You're a worse drunk than that dude lost the phone in the SZ thread.
Did you even offer towels or something to drink? Next time find them and buy them a nice dinner and apologize.
HT[/QUOTE]
I am sorry, but i have to fully agree. What a missed opportunity.
Its what we do...
[QUOTE=Duniawala]...Lessons learnt:
They always look georgeous when you are drunk.
Never underestimate them and so don't give out your room number.[/QUOTE]
We never do ugly girls. but occasionally wake up besides one.
Have been visiting Hk hundreds of times in past 20 year and have a set routine of scoring with an Indon who I know (if shes not theres always Plan B and C) and as she has to leave by 6pm then I have time to get to Laguna.
(Ok the perfectionists will state Laguna hasnt ben there for 20 years. True. But before that there was always Makati and Big Apple.
(Side note. New Makati is called New Makati as old one burnt down in early 1990's)
Anyways was in Laguna groping and getting groped the way we all are on a Sunday. Met (bumped into) a Filipina, tall and clearly a helper and not a player. She was a little giggly and I found out she was new to Laguna. We talked for at least one minute, kissed, and then my phone started ringing in vibrate mode. Next thing I knew, as the lady had a short revealing dress on, I had my vibrating phone on her nipple. Id put it down her dress. Don't ask why. Too many beers. She loved it and gave me a real strong reaction.
So after this episode, I called my own phone from my spare phone, and managed to place this against her pussy, whilt on vibrate mode. We were in the dark area near the toilets. Anyways from there lots of mad and probably quite visible groping. But she had to go home somewhere in Mid levels.
She will be sourced and located on the next trip!
[QUOTE=Hat Trick]Dude are you gay? That was a terrible story.
Two filipa girls shows up at your door soaking wet ready to party, in a HK hotel room with the entire HK island shut down at 9am in the morning. Dude are you gay?
After confiding in you that they're hungry and broke, looking for honest work and shelter, you invite them there then send them out into the rain like dogs with nothing but scraps?
Remind me not to party with a party animal like you, dude. You're a worse drunk than that dude lost the phone in the SZ thread.
Did you even offer towels or something to drink? Next time find them and buy them a nice dinner and apologize.
HT[/QUOTE]
Hey, anyone who knows me that I am a sucker for sob stories. You missed my last line. "They look more beautiful, hell, even gorgeous when you are drunk." No, sir they weren't worth $400 USD for a couple of hours.
And no, I did not send them out cold and wet. They dried themselves off, blow dried their hair and were warm and toasty when I sent them out. Even gave them taxi money (though I doubt they took a taxi back).
If you are in HK and want them, PM me and I will give you their number.
Hi All,
I'm based in Taipei and my company's secretary let my visa expire without warning me, so I now have to do that visa trip to Hong Kong on Friday. My company bought me this cheapest ticket they could find, as well, so I'm flying in at 9:00 AM and flying out at 8:00 PM.
What I'm hoping you guys can recommend is a sauna-type place where I can kill time. I sometimes go to the sauna on top of the AsiaWorld Dept. Store in Taipei and that's what I'd like. A place I could nap, lounge, soak in a hot tub, eat and get a good FS with a 7-9 type younger girl. I can pass for a Chinese and speak Mandy reasonably well, but no Cantonese, if that matters.
I've been to HK a few times but never mongered there, so I'm unsure of prices. I'm willing to spend, at most, equivalent to US$200, which is a bit more than AsiaWorld's damage. Also, if someone wants to join me, let me know. Otherwise, throw me a bone so I can use mine?
[QUOTE=ColorWolf]Hi All,
I'm based in Taipei and my company's secretary let my visa expire without warning me, so I now have to do that visa trip to Hong Kong on Friday. My company bought me this cheapest ticket they could find, as well, so I'm flying in at 9:00 AM and flying out at 8:00 PM.
What I'm hoping you guys can recommend is a sauna-type place where I can kill time. I sometimes go to the sauna on top of the AsiaWorld Dept. Store in Taipei and that's what I'd like. A place I could nap, lounge, soak in a hot tub, eat and get a good FS with a 7-9 type younger girl. I can pass for a Chinese and speak Mandy reasonably well, but no Cantonese, if that matters.
I've been to HK a few times but never mongered there, so I'm unsure of prices. I'm willing to spend, at most, equivalent to US$200, which is a bit more than AsiaWorld's damage. Also, if someone wants to join me, let me know. Otherwise, throw me a bone so I can use mine?[/QUOTE]Sorry mate, can't help you on the sauna. But my recommendation is - change the employer
Have a good time in HK
You have several to choose from on Kowloon side.
Regency Spa was good when I visited. see website here: [url]http://www.man169.com/default.php?shop=154[/url]
I haven't been but my local friends say the Kings Sauna is quite good
[url]http://www.man169.com/default.php?shop=176[/url]
Both are likely to compare well with the Asiaworld in Taipei. FS should set you back less than HK$1000.
Have a good time and be sure to report back!
Acer
[QUOTE=ColorWolf]Hi All,
I'm based in Taipei and my company's secretary let my visa expire without warning me, so I now have to do that visa trip to Hong Kong on Friday. My company bought me this cheapest ticket they could find, as well, so I'm flying in at 9:00 AM and flying out at 8:00 PM.
What I'm hoping you guys can recommend is a sauna-type place where I can kill time. I sometimes go to the sauna on top of the AsiaWorld Dept. Store in Taipei and that's what I'd like. A place I could nap, lounge, soak in a hot tub, eat and get a good FS with a 7-9 type younger girl. I can pass for a Chinese and speak Mandy reasonably well, but no Cantonese, if that matters.
I've been to HK a few times but never mongered there, so I'm unsure of prices. I'm willing to spend, at most, equivalent to US$200, which is a bit more than AsiaWorld's damage. Also, if someone wants to join me, let me know. Otherwise, throw me a bone so I can use mine?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zuzon X]Sorry mate, can't help you on the sauna. But my recommendation is - change the employer
Have a good time in HK[/QUOTE]I hear you Zuzon, but when shit happens, sometimes the turd has a golden hue! This is off-topic, but it was just a girl not long out of college in a clerk position who blew my visa. The boss fired her, but I got him to take her back on probation, which makes me look good to the office ladies. The boss also offered me a better ticket, but I said don't bother (so I'll have time for the Regency Spa). And get this, the boss gave me NT$5, 000 (about US$150) for the airport train and meals, but guess what most of that will subsidize The company's also driving me to and from the airport and paying the piddling visa overstay fine. Change your mind yet? Tomorrow will beat the hell out of sitting on my leather ass in a cubicle.
Acer V, thanks a lot for the links. I'm going to hit the Regency Spa, as the directions say it is a 5-minute walk from a mass transit station. From the pics, it looks like the place and the ladies are just what I'm looking for. Thanks again, and you'll get a full report on my first mongering adventure in Hong Kong.
My favourite sauna (tried already 3 or 4) is in Sunshine Building 607 Nathan Road. Have been there last year, was happy and yesterday the same.
Went up to the 3rd floor, 400HKD for 90min Happy End. No full service but this is okay.
After cleaning up it starts: First one hour very good body massage. Hong Kong massage I like very much. You are lying with your front on this special bed with the hole for the face. Then t first massage from top to end without oil. The girl also does massage with her feeth. Later on you will be oiled and again a massage. This last about 50 minutes or one hour or so. Then the girl asks you toilette? (she must) and returns with hot towels. You will be cleaned with them and second important part starts.
The light will be reduced, you still lay on front. The girl straddles your legs and sit between them behind you. Then she starts the massage from your best parts of your body. An intensive oil massage from your balls, the ass crack, your scrotum. Would say, this area is a more sensitive area than the dick. Beautiful about 15 minutes or more. Only this part, very very good.
After finishing these parts of body you may turn and the final round starts. Also with oil a good sensitive slow handjob starts. Also stimulating done by kissing your nipples and touching your body with her tits. While see's doing it, this girl allows some investigation of her body. I may touch and press her boobs and slowly my hand goes down under her skirt. Good thing that Chinese girls wear short skirts with not so tight slips. So I may touch her holy area and also do some investigation of her vagina. Very wet, very nice and in the meantime she is still busy with my best part.
Overall: Sex with girl is very nice, but such a massage I will never miss. It is really relaxing, you feel other parts of your body and you can enjoy being touched very nice.
A really Happy End!
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[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]I stayed at the Chunking Mansion a few months ago.
The postings about needing extra documents are correct. China gov wants proof of hotel booking and a return air ticket. I went to an agent who could arrange everything, including a hotel/air ticket that is conveniently cancelled after you enter China. I paid 1200 HK dollars but this was for TWO people, so about 600 HK dollars a piece. I got a receipt and returned the next day to collect my passport with new visa, no problems. I got a 3 month double entry visa, but I have to leave every 30 days. My visa will expire again very soon, I will be repeating the same process.
Considering the expensive nature of traveling in HK and the long lines to get a visa, it is best to have an agent do all the work.
If you get a single entry visa, the price will be lower than what I stated.
If anyone wants to know the name of the agent, please send me a PM.[/QUOTE]Can you give me the contacts for this agent? So every 30 days you have to return to HK to re apply for a visa and go back?
[QUOTE=Parsival]My favourite sauna (tried already 3 or 4) is in Sunshine Building 607 Nathan Road. Have been there last year, was happy and yesterday the same.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Thanks for the nice report. Can you please let me know the name of the sauna.
[QUOTE=ColorWolf]I hear you Zuzon, but when shit happens, sometimes the turd has a golden hue! This is off-topic, but it was just a girl not long out of college in a clerk position who blew my visa. The boss fired her, but I got him to take her back on probation, which makes me look good to the office ladies. The boss also offered me a better ticket, but I said don't bother (so I'll have time for the Regency Spa). And get this, the boss gave me NT$5, 000 (about US$150) for the airport train and meals, but guess what most of that will subsidize The company's also driving me to and from the airport and paying the piddling visa overstay fine. Change your mind yet? Tomorrow will beat the hell out of sitting on my leather ass in a cubicle.
Acer V, thanks a lot for the links. I'm going to hit the Regency Spa, as the directions say it is a 5-minute walk from a mass transit station. From the pics, it looks like the place and the ladies are just what I'm looking for. Thanks again, and you'll get a full report on my first mongering adventure in Hong Kong.[/QUOTE]I am glad that things turned your way so that you can truly enjoy the trip to HK and the extra perks that will be available for you in HK. One last tip: keep your own diary about expiring visa , permits tax deadlines etc and use secretarial assistance only as backup for such important matters.
Enjoy our service here in HK despite th shitty weather today
[QUOTE=Parsival]My favourite sauna (tried already 3 or 4) is in Sunshine Building 607 Nathan Road. Have been there last year, was happy and yesterday the same.
[/QUOTE]
Just a correction that this is "Sun Hing Building" 新興大廈 not "Sunshine Building". Sunshine building is in Argyle Street.
APAC Man
[QUOTE=Apac Man]Just a correction that this is "Sun Hing Building" 新興大廈 not "Sunshine Building". Sunshine building is in Argyle Street.
APAC Man[/QUOTE]Yes your are right. Also there are two saunas there:
East Lake Sauna , 10/F, Sun Hing Bldg., 607 Nathan Road, Mong Kok, Kowloon
FAIRY-TALE ISLAND SAUNA, No. 801-804 & 816-820, 8/F, Sun Hing Bldg., 607 Nathan Rd, Mong Kok, Kowloon
No idea which one he went for a massage with HE for $400.
[QUOTE=Naxnax]Yes your are right. Also there are two saunas there:
East Lake Sauna , 10/F, Sun Hing Bldg., 607 Nathan Road, Mong Kok, Kowloon
FAIRY-TALE ISLAND SAUNA, No. 801-804 & 816-820, 8/F, Sun Hing Bldg., 607 Nathan Rd, Mong Kok, Kowloon
No idea which one he went for a massage with HE for $400.[/QUOTE]As I wrote already, 3rd floor!
Hi All,
Following on from my macau report I try to add some value to the HK board.
I have been luck enough to go to HK about 10 times in the last 5 years.
As usual it takes about 2 visits to get familiarised with the lay of the land and where to go, then you start to understand how things work and have real fun.
I usually stay in mongkok hotels, cheaper and nearer the real shopping areas.
Some tips.
For computers golden shopping mall, probably cheapest on the planet.
Copy software, just across the street upstairs, along with illicit naughty dvds (stocked in the roof panels).
Anyway back to the main event.
Ok thereare some quick fix massage places on the side streets near dundas and argyle streets, good if that is your wish.
There is also the 141 site where you can arrange a girl in a time shared appartment or you can go to the epson building and stroll though the floors.
Sorry fellows this is all too mechanical for me and doesnt cut it.
Me wants the real deal gfe.
So lets go find it.
Solution head to wan chai and look around fenwick street and the cross streets do not go into the nichclubs (identifiable by the screened doors and girls begging you to come in).
Instead go to the disco bars named.
Boracay, neptune 2, fenwick, dreams, ex strawberry (damn alzheimers kicking in again I forgot the name as it changed), also some bars have philly girls hanging around.
The system.
The girls are enticed to make some quick money to come to HK on a 2 week visa, they stay 5 to a room in flats in north point and wan chai areas.
The mamasan controls about 5 girls and send them to prc on a visa run at 2 weeks the girls pay for the flight in and back (indebted) and try to work it off.
The girls get commission on the lady drinks (about 1/2 the price) and of course a service fee from you dear reader How to play the game to win.
I pick up a newbie (look at the passport entry date).
Be kind and dance and buy a few (not too many) drinks.
Offer some nosh at the philly sidewalk cafe (will cost you about 25 hkd).
Then once softened up hop into the taxi to your local hotel.
Treat then softly and get them warmed up and you will have a whale of a time usual fee is 500 hk per nite.
Usually if they are responsive I invite them out for a several day stint and the relationship can become quite intense.
Indeed you will get heir phil cell nr and be able to visit if oyu go there.
Have fun and play safe.
The frenchman
[QUOTE=Parsival]As I wrote already, 3rd floor![/QUOTE]Thanks for the floor number. I find other few saunas in the same buliding. Can you tell me which one you went if it is one of the following:
Ginza Women's Sauna
Tel: 2625 5766
Sun Hing Building
Mong Kok
Prince Silver Spring Sauna
Tel: 2332 456
Sun Hing Building
Mong Kok
Silver Spring Sauna
Tel: 2770 2123
Sun Hing Building
Mong Kok
Sun Hing Kok Sauna Steam Bath
Tel: 2332 0185
Sun Hing Building
Mong Kok
[QUOTE=The Frenchman]
I pick up a newbie (look at the passport entry date).[/QUOTE]
You just ask to see her passport and she's ok with that?
[QUOTE=The Frenchman]
Be kind and dance and buy a few (not too many) drinks.
Offer some nosh at the philly sidewalk cafe (will cost you about 25 hkd).
The frenchman[/QUOTE]
Never bought a girl a drink in HK, it's bullshit, they don't appreciate the drinks you buy them , and they dont get angry if you refuse. In fact they probably think you're stupid for buying them drinks. But I am egalitarian: sometimes I don't even buy myself a drink. Why waste money? I go to Fenwicks to pick up a girl, not to drink. I might buy a beer if thirsty, or if I am in high spirits, but I never buy a beer just to have something in my hand or to make the waitress leave me alone. Never bought a girl (or myself) a philly snack either.
I just talk to girls, see what's availalbe, select one, check belly for baby damage, and it's off to the races.
Save your money, don't offer anything at the bar or on the way back home, and put the minibar off limits. The girls just don't care about the snacks and drinks, they'll take them if offered, but they really don't appreciate the gesture. All they care about is the money they get, not the money you spend.
[quote=naxnax]thanks for the floor number. i find other few saunas in the same buliding. can you tell me which one you went if it is one of the following:
ginza women's sauna
tel: 2625 5766
sun hing building
mong kok
prince silver spring sauna
tel: 2332 456
sun hing building
mong kok
silver spring sauna
tel: 2770 2123
sun hing building
mong kok
sun hing kok sauna steam bath
tel: 2332 0185
sun hing building
mong kok[/quote]hm, don´t know the name.
you go out the elevator, 90 degree left the first double door, dark wood.
have been there again yesterday but was a complete another experience.
the girls name was xingxing or kingking. massage itsself was not so good. happy ending okay. also she was talking a lot and at least her boyfriend called her.
so we had a lot of time left because it was a high speed massage. then she offered me to touch her. she layed down and straddled her legs and i made her happy with some oil and my fingers. she enjoyed it.
chinese girls are the best. they are not corrupted by the church and the feminism. they have a lot of heart.
[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood]
Never bought a girl a drink in HK, it's bullshit, they don't appreciate the drinks you buy them , and they dont get angry if you refuse. In fact they probably think you're stupid for buying them drinks.
Save your money, don't offer anything at the bar or on the way back home, and put the minibar off limits. The girls just don't care about the snacks and drinks, they'll take them if offered, but they really don't appreciate the gesture. All they care about is the money they get, not the money you spend.[/QUOTE]
What absolute crap - its people like you that give mongers a bad name!!
I'm a regular at the Wan Chai bars and have met many girls there. If you read the forums from all over the world - be nice to them, show them a bit of respect and you get paid back in spades. You say the girls "dont appreciate the gesture" - absolute nonsense - what planet have you come from? You say they "dont appreciate the drinks you but them". How do you think they make money? - one way is for you to buy them drinks from which they get their cut. So don't tell me thay don't appreciate it - of course they do.
I'm surprised at you, particularly with the number of posts (341) recorded against you.
[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood]Never bought a girl a drink in HK, it's bullshit, they don't appreciate the drinks you buy them , and they dont get angry if you refuse. In fact they probably think you're stupid for buying them drinks. But I am egalitarian: sometimes I don't even buy myself a drink. Why waste money? I go to Fenwicks to pick up a girl, not to drink. I might buy a beer if thirsty, or if I am in high spirits, but I never buy a beer just to have something in my hand or to make the waitress leave me alone. Never bought a girl (or myself) a philly snack either.
I just talk to girls, see what's availalbe, select one, check belly for baby damage, and it's off to the races.
Save your money, don't offer anything at the bar or on the way back home, and put the minibar off limits. The girls just don't care about the snacks and drinks, they'll take them if offered, but they really don't appreciate the gesture. All they care about is the money they get, not the money you spend.[/QUOTE]You must be a barell of fun to spend time with, but its your money and your time.
However I dont share the same view as you in this matter and all of my Wan Chai pickups have been a great GFE expirience and non want to leave in the morning and I have to push them out and all will give me their CP numbers includuing their PI ones.
To each his own, but it just means that I and people that think like me just have more options at Fenwicks or Neptunes II
Wizard
I didn't say you should be mean or disrespectful. I just said there's no reason to buy drinks the first time that you meet a girl at Fenwicks. After all, in the 141 you can be nice and respectful without recourse to buying drinks and snacks.
If you hae long term relationships with girls in HK and you take the girl out on a date that is different. But there is no reason to buy a bar girl drinks the first time that you meet her: she'll go home with you for the take-out price whether you buy drinks or not.
I get numbers from the bar girls as well, also have to push them out the door, because, like I said: they really don't care one way or the other about drinks.
Well, I guess they may care a little, but do the math: if half of the drink goe to the bar and the girl gets half, she is only half as happy as if you gave her the same money as a "tip" after a ST in your room.
Depending on how much you spend on drinks for her and her friends, you might be able to get a LT instead of ST for the money you save not buying drinks. She will be twice as happy, and so will you!
I used to buy bar girls drinks, then I experimented and stopped. No change in their attitude. I assume that it is because they get much more money from you during the take-out than from the drinks. I never had a girl refuse take out because of drinks, that's for sure.
I used to feel nervous myself without a drink, then I experimented, no one cared if I had a drink in my hand or not either.
If you like to drink, drink. If you have money to throw around, buy a round for everyone. But it is not required.
Depends on the place.
If you at Bar/clubs in 5 star hotels, it is customary to court the girls at the table with drinks.
At Fenwicks or Neptunes pick up joints, the girls need to hustle drinks for the bar in order to come in and work the customers. But I don't see bars taking down the girl's names or anything, so not sure what the agreement is.
[QUOTE=Hat Trick]Depends on the place.
If you at Bar/clubs in 5 star hotels, it is customary to court the girls at the table with drinks.
At Fenwicks or Neptunes pick up joints, the girls need to hustle drinks for the bar in order to come in and work the customers. But I don't see bars taking down the girl's names or anything, so not sure what the agreement is.[/QUOTE]Fenwicks: They get secretly slipped a ticket and receive 40 on a drink for 65 and 80 on a drink for 120 (Thats why they all go for tequila on the rocks).
[QUOTE=Tiger 888]Fenwicks: They get secretly slipped a ticket and receive 40 on a drink for 65 and 80 on a drink for 120 (Thats why they all go for tequila on the rocks).[/QUOTE]Tequila Rock and Roll is the double commission drink. They do not mind if you say 'no' to that and 'yes' to just a Tequila.
I do not see the point of paying the double commission unless it is well deserved!
[QUOTE=Tiger 888]Fenwicks: They get secretly slipped a ticket and receive 40 on a drink for 65 and 80 on a drink for 120 (Thats why they all go for tequila on the rocks).[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that sounds right.
I was taking a Cololmbiana out of Fenwicks, once she asked me to buy her a drink, then she asked me to buy her friend a drink, then I said fuck this and never bought another girl a drink there.
The girls all ask for a drink, I say no, and they don't have a problem.
Why buy a girl a drink if you're not going to bar fine her? You're blowing 65-120 for nothing, who cares what she thinks.
If you are going to barfine her, why buy a drink? You're blowing 65-120 since she's coming home with you anyway. Since she only makes a max of 80 on a drink, versus a barfine of say 800, she's not going blow a barfine by getting uppity about a drink. If she keeps asking for a drink, just tell her to fuck off and find another girl.
If you buy yourself, her, and a friend a few rounds, you're already looking at the difference between ST-LT or the cost of a second ST after one ST with the current girl.
To make her happy, if that's your thing, give her a tip for pictures or anal or whatever makes you happier, she keeps it all instead of giving the bar a cut and you get some actual increase in service.
Call me crazy for wanting to maximize my happiness instead of the bar's, and also give her the most out of it as well, by cutting the bar out.
I agree with Crazy Jim all the way.
Why give the house your money instead of the girl? If you intend to take a girl out, then just tell her, "I would rather give you the money as a tip instead of the house as a lady-drink". I have done that before and they all agreed and appreciated it.
There is also a gentlemanly way to decline buying a lady-drink........Just say, "Not right now maybe later." It has worked for me many times. And when they come back to pester you again, just give them the same line and they get the message.
And I certainly would not buy a lady-drink for any woman I had no intention of taking out, especially if they continue to pester me.
I think we have a difference of opinion as I like to spend at least an hour or two in those places and prabobly speak with 3 or 4 girls just to get the right vibe and if one of them spends 45 min talking to me then the 50HK$ she makes of the drink is small compersation for her time.
But like I said thats just my view of the world, good luck in yours.
wizard
Sorry to ask this, i tried using the search function to no avail here.(I am new to the forum). I am desperate and if any of you can help me i would really appreciate it. I am heading to HK in a few days and need to get a visa to go to Guanzhou. Anyone know of a agency that can get me a visa same day?
Thank you!
[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden]...And I certainly would not buy a lady-drink for any woman I had no intention of taking out...[/QUOTE]Well, yes and no.
I had a story a couple of years back. There was a girl I would rate the most attractive I have ever seen in Fenwicks (I felt shy to approach her). Just as a coincindence a moment later she was standing next to me and we started talking. I met her again a few days later and she was real fun talking to. Not in HK with an agent, but one of the very few who was smart enough to be there on her own. I must have spent something like 500 on drinks only that night (don't ask me why, I normally never do this), but we somehow clicked. She told me she would not go with customers, since she makes 15 tequila on the rocks a night (net 1200 HK$) on average. I asked her how she refuses customers, she said by charging 3000 ST. Then she encouraged me to come with her to Shenzhen on her visa run. And she ended up being a freebie for several weekends in China and Macau over a year. But it was strictly outside HK, because when in HK she was on business.
I had several Filipines who would appreciate me accompany them to China just for the comfort of having soneone around who is familiar with the place. Unfortunately that is on hold now since they don't get visas anymore.
Hi,
I will be the first tim in HK with a little time for the fun. I hafe read the forum, but I still have no real plan and view on where to stay best, and where to go or look. I would like to stay in a niche hotel, I am not on a budget, and will get some fun in the hotel. And I like to see how the mongering scene wi "working" in HK.
I will have time to check the digfferent options.
Can someon help me with tips?
I realy would be happy abote some help.
Thanks
Will
There are plenty of hotels on the island and you can stay in Wanchai or Central etc.
I prefer to stay in Kowloon or TST and Mody Rd is good as its just on the entrance to the harbour tunel. The Intercontinetal is great if budget is not a high priority. And there is also stocky fingers on Mody Rd if you dont want to go far for your P4P bar fun, the band is not bad and although the talent is slightly older there are some real gems every now and again coming through the place.
Well as for mongering as I am not a sauna, KTV kind of guy I usually start the night off at Lan Kwai Fong, lots of expat bars lining the main drag, about 80% regular girls including tourists and the rest FL that are trying a different location for the evening.
If there is nothing that takes your fancy there then just jump in a cab and head to Wanchai, I like Fenwicks and Neptunes II as my favourite mongering spots, lots of talent mostly Thai and Filipina with a smothering of Sth Americans and Eastern Europeans thrown in. have fun and enjoy the night.
Hope that helps
Wizard
Here's a tip: RTFF
[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Hi,
I will be the first tim in HK with a little time for the fun. I hafe read the forum, but I still have no real plan and view on where to stay best, and where to go or look. I would like to stay in a niche hotel, I am not on a budget, and will get some fun in the hotel. And I like to see how the mongering scene wi "working" in HK.
I will have time to check the digfferent options.
Can someon help me with tips?
I realy would be happy abote some help.
Thanks
Will[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood].
Call me crazy for wanting to maximize my happiness instead of the bar's, and also give her the most out of it as well, by cutting the bar out.[/QUOTE]
Yeah - I can agree with what you're saying.
On the other hand, perhaps you should also consider the fact that the bars do need to make some money....especially from those who do not mind spending a bit or wanting to act a bit like a BSD. We need these guys to keep on doing this - otherwise places like Fenwicks are gonna close down! And where would that put us mongers??
So I would suggest that the we do NOT tell others here to strongly never buy lady drinks. Keep to your own habits - whatever it may be in regards to these lady drinks - but cool it a bit about telling others NOT to buy 'em.
Good idea??
SEAJ
[QUOTE=Sfudge]Sorry to ask this, i tried using the search function to no avail here.(I am new to the forum). I am desperate and if any of you can help me i would really appreciate it. I am heading to HK in a few days and need to get a visa to go to Guanzhou. Anyone know of a agency that can get me a visa same day?
Thank you![/QUOTE]
I should just tell you to RTFF - but from your posting, you are really clueless aintcha??
Go to the China - General Info thread, go back 3 or so pages and you'll find all the info you'll need - which is that unless you're pretty damn lucky or a miracle happens, you ain't gonna get a China visa in Hong Kong. You need to apply for it from your home country/country of residence.
SEAJ
[QUOTE=Crazy Jim Wood]Here's a tip: RTFF[/QUOTE]Hi CJW,
Thanks for the tip! I have RTFF, and I am not familiar with the area, so I thourt that someone would give me a hint. But sorry if I ask.
Will
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]I should just tell you to RTFF - but from your posting, you are really clueless aintcha??
Go to the China - General Info thread, go back 3 or so pages and you'll find all the info you'll need - which is that unless you're pretty damn lucky or a miracle happens, you ain't gonna get a China visa in Hong Kong. You need to apply for it from your home country/country of residence.
SEAJ[/QUOTE]Joe, it's not that bad. And since rules change on a daily basis, in this case RTTF is useless.
I know of an agency who at least a week ago could get a visa the next day for around 800 HK$ (same day impossible). Not sure if they still can. The were also ale to take care of the ticket and hotel reservation, so that this is not needed. But it depends on your passport as well if they can do it. Not available for the 30+ coutries on that infamous list.
If someone PMs me with email address and nationality I will mail you the contact if you still can get the visa (I'll check that first).
[QUOTE=Tiger 888]Joe, it's not that bad. And since rules change on a daily basis, in this case RTTF is useless.
I know of an agency who at least a week ago could get a visa the next day for around 800 HK$ (same day impossible). Not sure if they still can. The were also ale to take care of the ticket and hotel reservation, so that this is not needed. But it depends on your passport as well if they can do it. Not available for the 30+ coutries on that infamous list.
If someone PMs me with email address and nationality I will mail you the contact if you still can get the visa (I'll check that first).[/QUOTE]
Hey Tig - no if he RTFF the china info thread, he will get to the official PRC website on the matter and be fully informed and updated. He can AND SHOULD do his own checking on his own particulars versus the official web site.
And as far as an agency still being able to get a visa - I don't know about that for those that are NOT residents of Hong KOng.
anyways......
SEAJ
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Hey Tig - no if he RTFF the china info thread, he will get to the official PRC website on the matter and be fully informed and updated. He can AND SHOULD do his own checking on his own particulars versus the official web site.
And as far as an agency still being able to get a visa - I don't know about that for those that are NOT residents of Hong KOng.
anyways......
SEAJ[/QUOTE]No way will they tell him the details I know. Yes, last week they could, not sure about today. Coincidentally a friend met the guy in the China visa office in HK in the same queue. You know better than me that in this part of the world Guanxi goes the longest way.
I have a friend who even managed to get 2 Americans into China for a 2 day business trip without visa.
Thank you for your help... I did check out the china forum and found what i needed. There was some conflicting information between what i read earlier in the forum and what different travel agencies have told me here in the U.S.
Need information. I have ben trying to acess the 141.com web page but with out seccess. Really appreciate if some brother can help me out here. i am now in HK and have been trying for 2 days but without seccess. I have use both the yahoo and google but still unable to get to the site.
I'm coming to Hong Kong for the first time in a couple of weeks. I've RTFF but can't seem to find anything information on whether there's any issues bringing girls back to your room. I'm going to be staying in the Eaton and Metropark Wan Chai, so any information on these hotels in particular would be gratefully received.
Cheers
Norman
[QUOTE=NormanBrightside]I'm coming to Hong Kong for the first time in a couple of weeks. I've RTFF but can't seem to find anything information on whether there's any issues bringing girls back to your room. I'm going to be staying in the Eaton and Metropark Wan Chai, so any information on these hotels in particular would be gratefully received.
Cheers
Norman[/QUOTE]It seems you are not familiar with the search function. Do a search on the Hong Kong forum with "girl friendly" and you will find the explicit answer.
Go to [url]www.google.com.hk[/url] and search for "sex". Its the first choice. By the way, this has beem mentioned before, so searching really saves time.
Have fun!
[QUOTE=Blue Diamone]Need information. I have ben trying to acess the 141.com web page but with out seccess. Really appreciate if some brother can help me out here. i am now in HK and have been trying for 2 days but without seccess. I have use both the yahoo and google but still unable to get to the site.[/QUOTE]
Cheers Tiger 888. Not the most helpful BUT you did help me re-look at the search function. I'd been using the default search by threads which brings up every report highlighting the words in red. Used that for 30 minutes originally before posting the request and found nothing. However if if you click search by reports instead it brings up those nearest your search criteria. Found what I was looking for in 5 minutes.
The point of the thread (apart from showing my ignorance....) was to share that according to the reports all Hotels in Kowloon and Wan Chai should be girl friendly.
Cheers
Norman
[QUOTE=Tiger 888]It seems you are not familiar with the search function. Do a search on the Hong Kong forum with "girl friendly" and you will find the explicit answer.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NormanBrightside]Cheers Tiger 888. Not the most helpful BUT you did help me re-look at the search function. I'd been using the default search by threads which brings up every report highlighting the words in red. Used that for 30 minutes originally before posting the request and found nothing. However if if you click search by reports instead it brings up those nearest your search criteria. Found what I was looking for in 5 minutes.
The point of the thread (apart from showing my ignorance....) was to share that according to the reports all Hotels in Kowloon and Wan Chai should be girl friendly.
Cheers
Norman[/QUOTE]You feed someone for a day by giving him fish, you feed him for a lifetime by showing him how to fish. I am glad it worked for you.
[QUOTE=Ramn HK]Go to [url]www.google.com.hk[/url] and search for "sex". Its the first choice. By the way, this has beem mentioned before, so searching really saves time.
Have fun![/QUOTE]I believe that all old posts that mention the side look like this [url]www.******.com[/url], so in this very case searching is not so useful. Google in most cases does miracles. Important: In order to get it as the first result you have to go to the above mentioned HK google site.
US navy ships are docking in HK for a little R&R this weekend. Thousands of guys on leave according to SCMP.
Maybe not a good time to be in Wanch.
QH
Thank RAMM HK
Manage to get to both the web sit. I am now in NT, will try to find something here. If I score I will wirte a review.
I will be arriving in HK this sunday night and have been to 37D, KPressure, and 8MK before, but would like to check out new places this time. If anyone wants to join up for some mongering please PM me.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Qiao Han]US navy ships are docking in HK for a little R&R this weekend. Thousands of guys on leave according to SCMP.
Maybe not a good time to be in Wanch.
QH[/QUOTE]
Absolutely correct. Last night was a complete waste of time with the better gals at Fenwicks wanting HK$3000 for ST.
[QUOTE=Sudsoz]Absolutely correct. Last night was a complete waste of time with the better gals at Fenwicks wanting HK$3000 for ST.[/QUOTE
Sudso
They are crazy 3000 hkd for ST Go to China You can get an orgy with virgin for that price ,They must be high on drugs Just offer them pesos instead of HKD .
Fast eddie 48
[QUOTE=NormanBrightside]I'm coming to Hong Kong for the first time in a couple of weeks. I've RTFF but can't seem to find anything information on whether there's any issues bringing girls back to your room. I'm going to be staying in the Eaton and Metropark Wan Chai, so any information on these hotels in particular would be gratefully received.
Cheers
Norman[/QUOTE]
Metropark WanChai is GF - I have stayed there several times. You will find that the folder in the room explicitly writes that no guests are allowed after 11(?)pm, but dont let that fool you. You can try to book directly through hotel's website and you can find some very good deals. Internet will cost you extra (120 a day). They provide VERY short cable, so bring your own cable OR ask the hotel manager to borrow a wireless router. I digress. Let me know if you need more info.
While I agree HKD 3,000 is crazy for a short time it is a question of both supply and demand and that a lot of the girls do not like going with folks from the Navy. Supply and demand is quite bad right now, lots of flippers are not coming, as we have already observed because of the Chinese Visa issues and with the Navy in town there are tons of guys.
Just more confirmation on the decrease in working girls - from today's newspaper:
Olympic visa curbs put visitors off the game
Nick Gentle
Updated on Jun 22, 2008
The mainland's pre-Olympics visa crackdown is even hurting the world's oldest profession.
Beijing's new rules have led to a sharp drop in the number of freelance prostitutes operating in Wan Chai, sources said.
The women, mostly Filipinos who ply their trade illegally while on 14-day tourist visas, have been forced to journey to Macau to renew their stay. Previously they would simply go to Shenzhen and back for visa renewals.
The increased cost of the trip and closer scrutiny by immigration authorities upon return has reportedly made staying on less attractive.
"You know, with the Olympics and the visa-restriction stuff, most of the girls would prefer to go to Singapore," where they can stay for 30 days visa-free, one bar owner said. "It's just become too hard for them."
A doorman at another bar that is frequented by freelancers said their numbers had dropped since the new measures came into force.
"We check their passports before we let them in, and there are less of them," he said. "But I think it is only temporary - for the Olympics. Instead, we are seeing more Vietnamese and, recently, Ugandans."
Vietnamese must apply for a visa before they enter, while Ugandans receive a 30-day visa free on arrival.
One freelancer, "Vivian", confirmed that it was becoming increasingly difficult to go back and forth between Hong Kong and Macau.
"The immigration guys know what is going on, so they are making it harder for us," she said. Several of her colleagues had left the city as a result.
The Immigration Department denied there was any deliberate targeting of Filipinos. "When people come into Hong Kong we only concentrate on the purpose of their visit, not their nationalities," a spokesman said.
"Working as a prostitute while on a tourist visa is a breach of stay and is punishable by a fine of HK$50,000 and two years in prison."
Noel Smyth, chairman of the Wan Chai Alliance, a business group aimed at promoting and revitalising the district, welcomed any reduction in the number of prostitutes working illegally in the area.
"The last thing we want to do is harm anyone's business," Mr Smyth said.
"But there has been a bit of a problem with some of these girls with the drugging and robbing of people ... Wan Chai is Suzie Wong. We don't want to take the fun out of the place, but we do want to clean it up."
Mark Cholewka, operations manager for Igor's Group, which runs a number of bars in the area, said: "People don't generally talk in open conversation about the number of freelancers around. But I'm happy to hear that numbers are decreasing."
Mimi, a manager at one of Wan Chai's "red-velvet curtain" hostess bars, said the new regulations had not affected her business. "It doesn't concern us, because all our girls have working visas," she said.
Hi Everyone,
I'm 21 and I'm in HK for a summer internship. I'll be staying until August. I don't really have any friends here, and not very many ways of meeting people my age. Everyone at my internship is old, and I'm not a big drinker, so the bars aren't exactly my thing. But, I do love women, dating, sex, just conversation, I like it all.
I hadan interesting thing happen to me the other day. I went to 37 Dundas for the first time. I had a pretty good session. And after we finished, we talked for a while. The girl said that she was 25. She said that most girls don't like doing things with guys that are younger than them. They say that it's kinda embarrassing, or awkward. She said it kinda bothered her, but because it was my first time at Dundas she didn't want to disappoint me. She suggested that I either try to just date someone, or if I really want to go to 37D a lot, just as for girls younger than myself.
Maybe she was just saying this to make me feel like she was special and get me to keep coming back for her, or something like that. But, I get the feeling that what she said was right. I don't know how many people my age, local or foreign, go to these types of places. But for the most part, I see younger people like me just dating regular girls. And from what I get, the patrons of 37D and places like it, are more of the older businessmen type people. But I'm not really sure, cuz I'm definatly a newbie to all of this.
So what do you guys think? Was she right? No was it BS? And what should I do? Not worry about what she said? Try to ask Yellow Sign places for girls younger than me? Should I try to meet regular girls and just try to get a normal girlfriend? Is that possible or worth it in the time frame of my stay? O and is anyone else on here in their early 20s? (just curious)
Thanks Everyone,
Nate
Hi all,
I´ll be in Hong Kong in the Harbour Plaza Hotel next week.
Could anybody advise where to go to find some cheap good girls for BBBJ GFE?
Thanks to all for your support in advance.
Tom
[QUOTE=Hat Trick]Depends on the place.
If you at Bar/clubs in 5 star hotels, it is customary to court the girls at the table with drinks.
At Fenwicks or Neptunes pick up joints, the girls need to hustle drinks for the bar in order to come in and work the customers. But I don't see bars taking down the girl's names or anything, so not sure what the agreement is.[/QUOTE]
All of the main FL bars give the girls tickets for lady drinks and they are paid a portion of the drink price. Some girls, particularly new ones, try to make this their main source of income. Eventually they conclude that it is not sufficient.
From the SCMP article by Nick Gentle:
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Noel Smyth, chairman of the Wan Chai Alliance, a business group aimed at promoting and revitalising the district, welcomed any reduction in the number of prostitutes working illegally in the area.
"The last thing we want to do is harm anyone's business," Mr Smyth said.
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Oh yeah Mr. Smyth? Well you're hurting our business, which is conveniently finding girls for sex. Get stuffed, fuck off, and please pull your lower lip over your head and swallow. There's nothing wrong with Wan Chai as is, ya busybody gweilo. And I say that as a gweilo, but one who knows how to live and let live.
Dimension. Appreciate the information.
Thanks
Norman
[QUOTE=Dimension]Metropark WanChai is GF - I have stayed there several times. You will find that the folder in the room explicitly writes that no guests are allowed after 11(?)pm, but dont let that fool you. You can try to book directly through hotel's website and you can find some very good deals. Internet will cost you extra (120 a day). They provide VERY short cable, so bring your own cable OR ask the hotel manager to borrow a wireless router. I digress. Let me know if you need more info.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dimension]Metropark WanChai is GF - I have stayed there several times. You will find that the folder in the room explicitly writes that no guests are allowed after 11(?)pm, but dont let that fool you. You can try to book directly through hotel's website and you can find some very good deals. Internet will cost you extra (120 a day). They provide VERY short cable, so bring your own cable OR ask the hotel manager to borrow a wireless router. I digress. Let me know if you need more info.[/QUOTE]If you dig intot the recent history of the hotel, you will find some interesting info. Remember SARS, the flu like symptoms that kill quite a few people about six years ago, well I believe that the Metropark was one of the ground zero hotels. The other hotels I think in the area was Luk Kwok Hotel and the Metropole. Granted, they are nice but knowing the history about the ground zero hotels, I will pass and think about other accomodations. Check it out you will find some info on it. I think the Metropole has changed its name to fool future residents. They never found an antidote to the flu. They claimed to have sanitized those places, but I will take my chances elsewhere.
I have stayed at the Luk Kwok before the epidemic and it is a nice place.
J
Hello to all people
i ask information about Lan Kwai Fong?
Thanks in advance
bye
xmen6900
I would like know good topless bar in HK. I am not looking for the place to finally pick the gal. Just to go with a client to have drinks and watch the gals. Would like to know such a place with reasonable price for the drinks. I know the drinks will be costly in such a place compared to normal bar.
Went to the Fuji Building (381-383 Lockhart Road near Marsh Street) at about 10:30PM, trying to get there before the place closed (a post seemed to indicate that the place shut down at 11PM. Is this true?). Took the elevator to the top floor. All busy except for one. Rang the bell. A girl in a bikini opens the door and asks "Am I OK? 450 HKD). She was not bad but had a three-inch scar with the stitches still in it on the front of her thigh. I did not want to deal with that so I pretended I didn't understand her and left. Went down to the 19th floor. All busy except for 19-A1. Rang the bell. Pretty, friendly girl in blue-jean short-shorts, nice smile, opened the door. 500 HK$. No English. I motioned actions for fuck and suck. She smiled and nodded. Didn't want top haggle over HK$ 50 so I nodded OK. She gave me a shower, then she took a bath. Nice tits, not much of an ass, but OK.
She motioned me to lay down, did nippple suck for a few minutes, then started BJ (covered at my request. Looked like she was going to BBBJ until I motioned for the cap). Nice CBJ for 5 or so mintes, then CG, missionary, doggie, then finished with a HJ while massaging her pussy and sucking her tits. Shower, get dresssed, give her the money, a peck on the lips, and out the door. Nice session with a nice girl. As I got on the elevator an Asian guy rang her bell. Gave him a thumbs-up for the girl.
Got to Neptune II about 11:45PM. About 50 girls, mostly 6s, a handful of 7s, and 3-4 8s. A lot more older women than I had expected. As I had just finished at 19-A1, I was not really on the prowl so I just looked around. Got accosted by a few ladies, smiled at by others, but didn't follow-through with any of them. About 2 hours later, I'm getting sleepy and semi in the mood for another round. One of the 8s, a Thai girl with blond hair, had been smiling and flirting with me for a while so I call her over and tell her I like her and would she like to go to my hotel with me. She asked "How much you pay me?" I said how much do you want? She said ST 1,000HK$. I told her that I thought that much was for LT and that ST was 500HK$. She said no. Since I was tired and not that horny, I let her go and left.
My question is, is there a standard rate for LT and ST at Neptune II, and if so, what is it? Or does each girl set her own rate?
Something that I don't understand is that the girl in question was not approached by a single customer in the 2 hours I was in the bar. Further, most of the other 8s were also not approached by anyone during those 2 hours. Are guys reluctant to approach them because of being perceived as too expensive?
Xmen, there's not much about Lan Kwai Fong in here, because LKF is not a place for mongering. It's a place for drinking a lot and acting like a fool, and unsuccessfully flirting with the snobby bitches who go clubbing there.
Guys, what's your success rate for freebies at these places on Sunday afternoons? Or is it mostly paying a typical $800/ST kind of thing?
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Xmen, there's not much about Lan Kwai Fong in here, because LKF is not a place for mongering. It's a place for drinking a lot and acting like a fool, and unsuccessfully flirting with the snobby bitches who go clubbing there.[/QUOTE]
Unless you try Bar George, seem to be flippers there most nights
Hi All,
Sorry for posting off topic, but there is no "living in HK" thread.
I posted this in the Bangkok forum, but thought it may be better in the HK section.
Expats working in Asia, particularly Thailand, I believe, often keep their meney in a bank account with HSBC or such in HK or Singapore.
And it seems there are quite a few people do stock trading from Thailand.
Who would be a good firm to have a brokerage account with? specifically if I want to trade US options such as covered calls online from Thailand? I can use US Fidelity from Bangkok, but will have to remit money back into the US.
From their website, HSBC HK has an investment account, but it looks mainly for trading stocks only. In the US, I can open an account with Fidelity.
If I work in Thailand and get paid there and park my money in HK or Sing, I would like to buy US stock and try to sell some covered calls. (US stocks because I am familiar with Microsoft and Yahoo and such, but nothing to limit me to the US market, just I don't know anything about Europe or HK or China or Thailand...)
Thanks
fly
PS. I found interactivebrokers.com, will take a look to see what they offer. Would appreciate comments if anyone has experience with them.
Usually it is pretty easy to pick up and usually it is for free. Although sometimes I slip the girl $300-$500 or she requests a little bit of money.
edit - just want to add remember these girls make $3,500 a month from there job as a maid so even an extra $300 is equal to almost 10% of their monthly wages.
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Guys, what's your success rate for freebies at these places on Sunday afternoons? Or is it mostly paying a typical $800/ST kind of thing?
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Flyhere]Hi All,
Sorry for posting off topic, but there is no "living in HK" thread.
I posted this in the Bangkok forum, but thought it may be better in the HK section.
Expats working in Asia, particularly Thailand, I believe, often keep their meney in a bank account with HSBC or such in HK or Singapore.
And it seems there are quite a few people do stock trading from Thailand.
Who would be a good firm to have a brokerage account with? specifically if I want to trade US options such as covered calls online from Thailand? I can use US Fidelity from Bangkok, but will have to remit money back into the US.
From their website, HSBC HK has an investment account, but it looks mainly for trading stocks only. In the US, I can open an account with Fidelity.
If I work in Thailand and get paid there and park my money in HK or Sing, I would like to buy US stock and try to sell some covered calls. (US stocks because I am familiar with Microsoft and Yahoo and such, but nothing to limit me to the US market, just I don't know anything about Europe or HK or China or Thailand...)
Thanks
fly
PS. I found interactivebrokers.com, will take a look to see what they offer. Would appreciate comments if anyone has experience with them.[/QUOTE]
Just about all the major US - and International brokerage houses/investment banking firms are in Hong Kong - Goldman, Merril, Morgan Stanley, Fortiss, Deutsche Bank, UBS, Credit Suise, Lehman, Royal Bank of Canada, Schwabb etc etc.
Depending on the size of your account, they'd all open an account for you to trade either by phone or on the internet.
SEAJ
Hi all,
I am coming Hong Kong soon. I am staying at the panda hotel and metropark at Causeway Bay.
Could you give me some info on where to go and what is the going rate. and info that could help me when i go for action.
thank you
Regret those days are gone, all thats left are a few " clip " joints that will try sting you for HK$ 2000 for a few beers and then argue down to whatever they can get out of you. As they have no other clients they don't care how long it takes. You may have somewhere to go though!
Most of the bars will go topless if you spend enough, but then you end up with a titless freak like this!
[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket]Guys, what's your success rate for freebies at these places on Sunday afternoons? Or is it mostly paying a typical $800/ST kind of thing?
Have fun and stay safe,
Johnny Rocket[/QUOTE]I agree with Rick Hunter and his comments, but I would go to Laguna on Sunday afternoons rather than Fewicks or Makati.
[QUOTE=Naxnax]I would like know good topless bar in HK. I am not looking for the place to finally pick the gal. Just to go with a client to have drinks and watch the gals. Would like to know such a place with reasonable price for the drinks. I know the drinks will be costly in such a place compared to normal bar.[/QUOTE]There are a whole bunch of girlie bars on Lockhart Rd. in Wan Chai, but beware, as they are expert at running drink scams. Same with the few "topless" clubs in TST. Other than those bars, the entertainment options in HK are more Asian than Western. If you want to entertain a client with drinks and girls, I would recommend one of the KTV clubs in E. TST.
[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99]
My question is, is there a standard rate for LT and ST at Neptune II, and if so, what is it? Or does each girl set her own rate?
Something that I don't understand is that the girl in question was not approached by a single customer in the 2 hours I was in the bar. Further, most of the other 8s were also not approached by anyone during those 2 hours. Are guys reluctant to approach them because of being perceived as too expensive?[/QUOTE]Some girls are not very practical:) and dont go below a certain amount. Once, I have tried to negotiate with a Russian girl in Fenwick at 5:30am. After lowering her price to 1000 (which I found usual for Russians even after 4-5am), I tried to lower ST price to 900. We talked 10-15 minutes about ST prices around the world and economy, but she just refused to go for 900. I watched her to walk to her hotel (near Fenwick). By the way, it wasnt a matter of 100HKD, my goal was to lower her price below 1000HKD. I told her that she is being un-practical. She gave me some silly reason like if she lowers her price little bit everyday, then she will be asking 500 HKD soon like some others. Anyway, I think that some girls consider themselves higher than others and set lower threshold for themselves.
[QUOTE=Softy]There are a whole bunch of girlie bars on Lockhart Rd. in Wan Chai, but beware, as they are expert at running drink scams. Same with the few "topless" clubs in TST. Other than those bars, the entertainment options in HK are more Asian than Western. If you want to entertain a client with drinks and girls, I would recommend one of the KTV clubs in E. TST.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Could you please any particular KTV in East TST where two guys can go and speak no Cantonese or Putungua.
[QUOTE=Flyhere]Hi All,
Sorry for posting off topic, but there is no "living in HK" thread.
[snip]
PS. I found interactivebrokers.com, will take a look to see what they offer. Would appreciate comments if anyone has experience with them.[/QUOTE]I use interactive brokers out of HK and find it is pretty good. It isn't meant for the beginner but it doesn't sound like you are. More reasonable price than HSBC in my opinion.
MJ
I would like to hear if anyone has had a useful experience at any of the girlie bars in Wan Chai. Ever one to take up a challenge, one Friday afternoon I thought I would try and find out the cheapest I could get some. I ended up paying for a beer and 500 for a quick BJ at the back of the bar (don't recall which place, aren't the all the same? ) This was after much annoying negotiation and arm tugging. Some of the women are beautiful so maybe the exorbitant bar fine makes sense to some or maybe you have access to a better expense account than I do. I just think with all the other options this should be last on the list.
MJ
[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99]Went to the Fuji Building (381-383 Lockhart Road near Marsh Street) at about 10: 30PM, trying to get there before the place closed (a post seemed to indicate that the place shut down at 11PM. Is this true? ). Took the elevator to the top floor. All busy except for one. Rang the bell. A girl in a bikini opens the door and asks "Am I OK? 450 HKD). She was not bad but had a three-inch scar with the stitches still in it on the front of her thigh. I did not want to deal with that so I pretended I didn't understand her and left. Went down to the 19th floor. All busy except for 19-A1. Rang the bell. Pretty, friendly girl in blue-jean short-shorts, nice smile, opened the door. 500 HK$. No English. I motioned actions for fuck and suck. She smiled and nodded. Didn't want top haggle over HK$ 50 so I nodded OK. She gave me a shower, then she took a bath. Nice tits, not much of an ass, but OK.
She motioned me to lay down, did nippple suck for a few minutes, then started BJ (covered at my request. Looked like she was going to BBBJ until I motioned for the cap). Nice CBJ for 5 or so mintes, then CG, missionary, doggie, then finished with a HJ while massaging her pussy and sucking her tits. Shower, get dresssed, give her the money, a peck on the lips, and out the door. Nice session with a nice girl. As I got on the elevator an Asian guy rang her bell. Gave him a thumbs-up for the girl.
Got to Neptune II about 11:45PM. About 50 girls, mostly 6s, a handful of 7s, and 3-4 8s. A lot more older women than I had expected. As I had just finished at 19-A1, I was not really on the prowl so I just looked around. Got accosted by a few ladies, smiled at by others, but didn't follow-through with any of them. About 2 hours later, I'm getting sleepy and semi in the mood for another round. One of the 8s, a Thai girl with blond hair, had been smiling and flirting with me for a while so I call her over and tell her I like her and would she like to go to my hotel with me. She asked "How much you pay me? " I said how much do you want? She said ST 1, 000HK$. I told her that I thought that much was for LT and that ST was 500HK$. She said no. Since I was tired and not that horny, I let her go and left.
My question is, is there a standard rate for LT and ST at Neptune II, and if so, what is it? Or does each girl set her own rate?
Something that I don't understand is that the girl in question was not approached by a single customer in the 2 hours I was in the bar. Further, most of the other 8s were also not approached by anyone during those 2 hours. Are guys reluctant to approach them because of being perceived as too expensive? [/QUOTE]Prices is a difficult topic. Having lived in HK a while here is my take on it.
Most girls want to get HK$1, 500 for all night (long time, usually in your hotel). Some will ask for up to HK$2, 500 but few will refuse HK$1, 500. As it gets later, if they like you, if it is slow, if they are less than prime, they will accept $1, 000.
Some girls look for short time, usually in a short time hotel on Lockhart Road (note their rates also change depending on time of day ranging from about HK$100-300 for 1-3 hours). Most girls really want HK$1, 000. If you offer this and stick to it you will probably get it, and they will be happy after (ask for your phone number, look for you next time, etc.) If it is really slow, she is not prime, it is morning or they think you are local, they might accept HK$500, but they are not likely to be happy (won’t give you phone, or won’t answer when you call).
You can see beautiful, especially Thai, girls who seem to be there all night alone, and paying for their own drinks (note that the bar charges the girls much less for drinks when they buy their own than they do guys even for their own drinks. If a girl buys her own drink it costs I think HK$20/beer). If you go several nights in a row you might notice the same girl drinking the same drink, chatting with her friends, and never with a guy. For some girls it just works, for some it does not. Some also seem to have their pride and would rather go broke than negotiate.
I struck up a conversation with one of these Thai girls. Tall, beautiful face, hair, breasts. Yummy. She said she did not know why guys did not seem to like her. Eventually I left. The next day I saw her and her friends in Bridge. We chatted for a while and at the 10am closing she asked if I wanted to go with her friends to play pool, which I agreed. We went to Joe’s and spend the morning playing. Everyone paid his own way and it was a blast. At the end I walked them to their boarding house, but made no move. I saw her again a few nights later, still alone in Neptune. I asked her to join me at Dusk till Dawn, and we had a great time. After I told her that I really wanted to make love, but that I did not like turning our relationship commercial. She said it was not important. I could have either played dumb and tried not paying her, gone short time and offered her something after or warned her upfront what I would pay. We all know these girls are there for work, so not paying something is pretty dishonest. I told her I would give her $1, 000, as an exception. She said it was totally up to me. So off we went. We spent the night, at the end I gave her $1, 000 and I think that was the first really money she had made. I have to say she was really, really great in bed. In the next weeks I showed her other bars (Laguna in the afternoon, Fenwick – which I hate, LKF and more). We would occasionally meet and if we fucked I would slip her $1, 000. Then the games began. I would leave her to work in Neptune so she can make some money, then she would get hurt that I was not attentive to her. So I guess I became her easiest and most reliable money. Next she had to leave HK because they would not extend her visa, and she could not afford to pay her boarding house. I gave her an extra $1, 000. Then, surprise, she got her visa extended. Then she had to go and did not have money for the flight. Then she really, really needed a bit more as she had not made any money in HK and would have to pay her rent back in BKK. Then when she got home her dad was sick, and she needed more. So in the end, and I have now stopped communicating with her, the price was $1, 000 but soon I felt that I had adopted her and was slipping additional amounts and increasing my average cost. Hell, I did not want a girl friend.
What is the moral of the story? Dammed if I know. I have seen some girls so good at pulling drinks that they can do 20 in a night (of those ridiculous tequila rock and rolls at Fenwick – never mind sweetie, here is my ATM card), and that is all they do. No fucking. I have seen beautiful girls go night after night and get nowhere (as far as I can see) and go home broke. (And I have seen some of those come back to HK a few months later.) Because I live here I am not in a hurry or in need of scoring on any given night, so if there is someone l want I usually offer HK$500, and take it and keep coming back. There are even some who don’t ask for money and really mean it. Note that Filipinas come with 14 day visas and then try to extend by going to Shenzhen or Macao, hoping to get another 14 days when they return. It is more difficult lately with China refusing border visas and the HK authorities giving regular 14 day entries less often. The Thai girls get a month, and then do the same. (Most Indonesian girls seem to be domestic helpers out for some extra cash or looking for boy friend, mostly Laguna or Makati Saturday and Sunday) This cycle drives the new faces and also the economics as when they get close to visa expiry they are more flexible.
Bottom Line:
$1, 000-$1, 500 over night
$500-$1, 000 short time
Be careful about paying so little that she is mad, she will not be a great fuck. (and if you are not sure, if she does not give you her phone after, she thinks you are cheap Charlie and is mad, but she needed something)
If you are local or she thinks you will be regular, you can pay less and she will still be happy.
Don’t get tricked into becoming her boyfriend, unless of course that is what you want. It will increase your average cost.
Forget Russians, Colombians, Africans. They are exotics here and know it. Filipinas for true love, Thais for awesome sex and Indonesians for, well, both. But I digress.
PS this applies to Neptune, Makati, Laguna, Fenwick, Amazonia. Dreams and Galaxy seem to be a bit less. Joe Bananas, Dusk till dawn are more unpredictable.
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Prices is a difficult topic. Having lived in HK a while here is my take on it.
Most girls want to get HK$1, 500 for all night (long time, usually in your hotel). Some will ask for up to HK$2, 500 but few will refuse HK$1, 500. As it gets later, if they like you, if it is slow, if they are less than prime, they will accept $1, 000.
Some girls look for short time, usually in a short time hotel on Lockhart Road (note their rates also change depending on time of day ranging from about HK$100-300 for 2-3 hours). Most girls really want HK$1, 000. If you offer this and stick to it you will probably get it, and they will be happy after (ask for your phone number, look for you next time, etc.) If it is really slow, she is not prime, it is morning or they think you are local, they might accept HK$500, but they are not likely to be happy (won’t give you phone, or won’t answer when you call).
You can see beautiful, especially Thai, girls who seem to be there all night alone, and paying for their own drinks (note that the bar charges the girls much less for drinks when they buy their own than they do guys even for their own drinks. If a girl buys her own drink it costs I think HK$20/beer). If you go several nights in a row you might notice the same girl drinking the same drink, chatting with her friends, and never with a guy. For some girls it just works, for some it does not. Some also seem to have their pride and would rather go broke than negotiate.
I struck up a conversation with one of these Thai girls. Tall, beautiful face, hair, breasts. Yummy. She said she did not know why guys did not seem to like her. Eventually I left. The next day I saw her and her friends in Bridge. We chatted for a while and at the 10am closing she asked if I wanted to go with her friends to play pool, which I agreed. We went to Joe’s and spend the morning playing. Everyone paid his own way and it was a blast. At the end I walked them to their boarding house, but made no move. I saw her again a few nights later, still alone in Neptune. I asked her to join me at Dusk till Dawn, and we had a great time. After I told her that I really wanted to make love, but that I did not like turning our relationship commercial. She said it was not important. I could have either played dumb and tried not paying her, gone short time and offered her something after or warned her upfront what I would pay. We all know these girls are there for work, so not paying something is pretty dishonest. I told her I would give her $1, 000, as an exception. She said it was totally up to me. So off we went. We spent the night, at the end I gave her $1, 000 and I think that was the first really money she had made. I have to say she was really, really great in bed. In the next weeks I showed her other bars (Laguna in the afternoon, Fenwick – which I hate, LKF and more). We would occasionally meet and if we fucked I would slip her $1, 000. Then the games began. I would leave her to work in Neptune so she can make some money, then she would get hurt that I was not attentive to her. So I guess I became her easiest and most reliable money. Next she had to leave HK because they would not extend her visa, and she could not afford to pay her boarding house. I gave her an extra $1, 000. Then, surprise, she got her visa extended. Then she had to go and did not have money for the flight. Then she really, really needed a bit more as she had not made any money in HK and would have to pay her rent back in BKK. Then when she got home her dad was sick, and she needed more. So in the end, and I have now stopped communicating with her, the price was $1, 000 but soon I felt that I had adopted her and was slipping additional amounts and increasing my average cost. Hell, I did not want a girl friend.
What is the moral of the story? Dammed if I know. I have seen some girls so good that they can sell 20 drinks in a night (of those ridiculous tequila rock and rolls at Fenwick – never mind sweetie, here is my ATM card), and that is all they do; no fucking. I have seen beautiful girls go night after night and get nowhere (as far as I can see) and go home broke. (And seen some of those come back to HK a few months later.) Because I live here I am not in a hurry or in need of scoring on any given night, so if there is someone l want I usually offer HK$500, and take it or leave it. There are even some who don’t ask for money and really mean it.
Note that Filipinas come with 14 day visas and then try to extend by going to Shenzhen or Macao, hoping to get another 14 days when they return. It is more difficult lately with China refusing border visas and the HK authorities giving regular 14 day entries less often. The Thai girls get a month, and then do the same. (Most Indonesian girls seem to be domestic helpers out for some extra cash or looking for boy friend, mostly Laguna or Makati Saturday and Sunday) This cycle drives the new faces and also the economics as when they get close to visa expiry they are more flexible.
Bottom Line: $1, 000-$1, 500 over night $500-$1, 000 short time
Be careful about paying so little that she is mad, she will not be a great fuck. (and if you are not sure, if she does not give you her phone after, she thinks you are cheap Charlie and is mad, but she needed something) If you are local or she thinks you will be regular, you can pay less and she will still be happy.
Don’t get tricked into becoming her boyfriend, unless of course that is what you want. It will increase your average cost.
Forget Russians, Colombians, Africans. They are exotics here and know it. Filipinas for true love, Thais for awesome sex and Indonesians for, well, both. On the other hand, if you all offerd $500 the girls would start accepting it more often, and save me a fortune. But I digress.
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[QUOTE=Brown Rail]You can see beautiful, especially Thai, girls who seem to be there all night alone, and paying for their own drinks (note that the bar charges the girls much less for drinks when they buy their own than they do guys even for their own drinks. If a girl buys her own drink it costs I think HK$20/beer). If you go several nights in a row you might notice the same girl drinking the same drink, chatting with her friends, and never with a guy. For some girls it just works, for some it does not. Some also seem to have their pride and would rather go broke than negotiate.
me a fortune. But I digress.
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The extremely attractive girls you see not talking to guys and buying their own drinks are most likely just hanging out and having a good time. They probably have 1 or 2 regular guys (usually married) who pay them a stipend so they are just fine financially. They obviously can't see the married guys at night so they just hang out with their friends. They will off course go with other guys but money won't be the motivating factor.
[QUOTE=Hk Dog]The extremely attractive girls you see not talking to guys and buying their own drinks are most likely just hanging out and having a good time. They probably have 1 or 2 regular guys (usually married) who pay them a stipend so they are just fine financially. They obviously can't see the married guys at night so they just hang out with their friends. They will off course go with other guys but money won't be the motivating factor.[/QUOTE]From my experiance this happens, but it is rare. And you can spot the girls who are "already committed" quickly, they will be dancing a lot with other girls and not with guys, and when guys approach them they usually don't flirt. (I say usually because sometimes these girls still sell drinks) If you hang out with a group of Thais or Pinays for a bit they will tell you what each of the other's is up to.
[QUOTE=Tiger 888]Well, yes and no.
I had a story a couple of years back. There was a girl I would rate the most attractive I have ever seen in Fenwicks (I felt shy to approach her). Just as a coincindence a moment later she was standing next to me and we started talking. I met her again a few days later and she was real fun talking to. Not in HK with an agent, but one of the very few who was smart enough to be there on her own. I must have spent something like 500 on drinks only that night (don't ask me why, I normally never do this), but we somehow clicked. She told me she would not go with customers, since she makes 15 tequila on the rocks a night (net 1200 HK$) on average. I asked her how she refuses customers, she said by charging 3000 ST. Then she encouraged me to come with her to Shenzhen on her visa run. And she ended up being a freebie for several weekends in China and Macau over a year. But it was strictly outside HK, because when in HK she was on business.
I had several Filipines who would appreciate me accompany them to China just for the comfort of having soneone around who is familiar with the place. Unfortunately that is on hold now since they don't get visas anymore. [/QUOTE]When I started seeing posts about $3, 000, my first reaction was that she must not like you. But when I got to your post it all made sense. I too have met a few girls who make a living on drinks, but it is a rare talent. Occasionally you meet someone who can pull 15-20 drinks in a night. But most girls are too shy or not subtle enough and just consider drink commissions consolation money while they are looking for a "customer" for long or short time. This girl clearly had a good head for business. She likes sex with guys she likes, like you, and for the others she sets a super high price. That keeps the punters at bay, and if someone is crazy, horny or rich enough to pay, well it is worth the compromise. I like her already.
As for buying girls drinks, I understand the argument that the bar has to sell drinks to survive, but let some other punter be the one to support the bar. There are plenty of sailors and business men passing through, I would rather not do it with my own money. If I chat with a girl for a while, maybe dance, I think I should give her something for her time. I know why she is there and what her life is probably like. I will usually buy her a drink (supporting the bar too) or slip her HK$50 if I just want to toss her back. If I am with someone for the night of course then I buy as well, but probably not "lady’s drinks" (Margareta, Kailua and milk, or, God forbid tequila-rock-and-roll). With the "lady’s drink the girls get a commission. If you watch carefully, after they are served the waitress will come back and discretely slip the girl a ticket, which she can later trade for some money. I think it is HK$20, but not sure. This whole commission thing is supposed to be between the bar and the girls, secret from the guys. If you get involved in it the bar people will get surly. A few weeks ago I was with a girl who was new. After the drink we wanted to go to another bar, but I had not seen the waitress slip her the chit. I asked and my girl did not understand the system. I suggested she ask the waitress in Tagalog how it worked, but the waitress did not come back. Finally I just asked one of the waiters to get her the ticket. The guy got angry and started talking very sternly to the girl. Then he waived to the waitress who brought a HK$20 and gave to the girl, but everyone seemed mad at me, and at the girl. So it is best to pretend that you don’t know what is going on.
Usual drink prices (standard drink or beer) are about:
• Your drink: HK$ 40
• Her drink (lady’s drink): HK$60
• Her drink (not lady’s drink): HK$40
• Her drink (she buys own): HK$20
Happy hour drinks are about half. It has happened quite a few times that when I am with a girl several times, and she likes me, she will start saying that she will buy her own drinks, I should save my money. The underlying message is that as a GF I am already taking care of her and we should be more careful with "our" money. LOL
As for tequila-rock-and-roll at Fenwick, it just pisses me off. It costs twice a usual lady’s drink, basically it is a way to supercharge the movement of funds from your bank account to the girl and bar. None of the Lady’s drinks have much alcohol – could you drink 15 real drinks in a night and still work? With tequila-rock-and-roll they get one glass of [imitation] fruit juice and a separate shot of tequila. It is really one real drink in two glasses.
You might as well hand over your ATM card, or wear a name tag that says sucker. If I offer a girl a drink and she orders a beer or other non-lady’s drink I think, hum, girl friend experience. (Maybe this is not fair as they do have to earn a living. And girls who do this tend to be the Thais who are more confident in ultimately pulling a customer.) When the girl orders a "lady’s drink" I think, well I am helping her kids in school, sick parents, etc. I won’t usually do more than one or two of these before I think I should be paying her something directly and not supporting the bar. But, when a girl orders tequila-rock-and-roll, I feel insulted. She does not like me, she does not respect me. She is in cahoots with the bare to scam me. She is bold faced taking money out of your pocket without giving you anything of value in return, and waiting to see if you have the courage, or are not too drunk, to realize she is hustling you. You are not a BF and not even a customer, you are a mark.
Last time it happened I was with this totally cute, totally self assured Filipina. I told her to order what she liked. When the drinks came it was five tequila-rock-and-rolls. She had taken the liberty of ordering for her and her friends. I was so angry at myself for letting my guard down, letting them take advantage of me by treating me like a sucker that I told the waitress to take the drinks back, and kissed the girl good bye. She laughed, probably thinking Cheap Charlie. But at least I had s bit of self esteem, and HK$500, left.
Don’t let some 22 year old prostitute treat you like a chump. Every time I see a guy getting suckered into buying these I want to take him outside and give him a lecture. So here you have it. Instead of several tequila rock and rolls, save your money and go short time. That is what you both really want. You will be much happier. You have been warned.
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[QUOTE=Hk Dog]The extremely attractive girls you see not talking to guys and buying their own drinks are most likely just hanging out and having a good time. They probably have 1 or 2 regular guys (usually married) who pay them a stipend so they are just fine financially. They obviously can't see the married guys at night so they just hang out with their friends. They will off course go with other guys but money won't be the motivating factor.[/QUOTE]
So true, and their asking price will remain high. Nice take HK Dog.
Can anyone do a good write up of short time hotels or point me to one? (I still can't figure out the search function)
Like the drinks prices, I have trouble seeing the pattern as to exact pricing, so am always a bit surprised. In Wanchai I usually use Ming Court or Beverly.
Name: MING COURT HOTEL
Address: Flat A, B & C,2/F, Hong Kong Mansion,137-147 Lockhart Road, Wanchai, Hong Kong
District: Wan Chai District
Type: Tourist Guesthouse
Room: 9
Tel: 2135 8692
Fax: 2866 3963
Ming Court is located on the north side (same and block as Bridge, but towards the eastern end) of Lockhart Road. It is cheap and cheerful. It costs about HKD230/2 hours prime time HKD130/2 hours off peak (afternoons?). I actually know someone who comes in from Shenzhen for R&R on weekends, and he sleeps there over night. I don’t know the rate. The rooms are very small some have well placed mirrors (walls and ceilings). Sometimes hot water, sometimes not. The bathrooms are tiny, with the Asian-style hand shower over the toilet. Always give a single condom (in case you forget). They are pretty strict about time. About 15 minutes before time’s up you will get a call. Then 5 minutes, then when it is up, then about every 2 minutes! This will definitely not impress the girls, but it is functional.
Name: BEVERLY HOTEL LIMITED
Address: 4/F, Capital Building,175-191 Lockhart Road,Hong Kong.
District: Wan Chai District
Type: Tourist Guesthouse
Room: 17
Tel: 2507 2026
Fax: 2376 3495
Beverly is a bit more upscale, though still zero stars. The rooms are much larger, some 3 times the size of Ming Court, as are the bathrooms. It seems to rent for HKD330/2 hours. Real bathrooms with a tub. Hot water generally ok. If you go after midnight the rate is HKD380 until noon the next day, pretty good value. Some rooms have little mirrors angled in the ceiling (I find myself moving the girl around trying to place her where I can see her). Problem with staying overnight is that there is a lot of noise. I don’t know if it is the restaurants below or construction (in the middle of the night), but you keep getting woken up. Aircon can be difficult to figure out and TV has about 5 channels, if you can find them, 2 porn and 3 local Chinese. By the way, if you like Korean food, the restaurant below has a pretty good value barbeque buffet. Girls used to Ming Court like being taken here. It is not the Shangre La, but is ok. And if you take the room till noon, she can sleep the night through even after you leave.
I have used hotels in Causeway Bay, across the street and up the hill from Sogo, but none I would recommend. Same in Mong Kok. In both cases I was "dating" girls who work in HK (Domestic Helpers), not Wanchai girls.
What other hotels do you use?