November 2005 Bangkok Pattaya Trip Report
flew into bangkok at about 10 pm in november (try to go in the off-season- not as crowded, more hotel availability at cheaper rates). shared a cab from the departure level (avoided the baht 50 fee on the arrival level) with a kuwaiti guy i met on the immigration line. i checked in at the hotel manhattan. they didn’t ask where the other occupant of the room was (i had booked a double). gave me a junior suite, even though i had only booked a standard room. nice enough, though could use more light.
noise from the construction is definitely audible in the morning but not unbearably so. the pool is pretty small and you have to go down a set of stairs on the outside of the hotel to get to it. the breakfast is pretty good: fruit, made to order eggs, other breakfast stuff that i don’t ever eat but could be acceptable to others.
hotel is definitely girl friendly (when i came in with a girl later the old guy who checked me in gave me a thumbs up, apparently approving of the girl. there was no problem either when i brought in another girl to replace the first one).
after checking in at our hotels, i met up with the kuwaiti guy at rainbow 4 in nana plaza about 12:30 am. i didn’t find the girls very attractive. the kuwaiti guy tried to get two different girls to go with him but each wanted either 3000 or 4000 baht, so he passed. we then went outside to the nana hotel parking lot to wait for the parade of girls from the bars and clubs to start. we didn’t see anyone worthwhile come out, so the kuwaiti guy started talking to the touts that hang around the parking lot and was told about a club that was open after hours. the tout called it the mtk club (it’s actually called the stardust club, just off ratchdamri past petchaburi). i am always leery of these touts and tried to talk him out of it but he really wanted to go so we went.
there were about 20-30 girls sitting and standing at the end of the club, with tables and stools for the customers in front of them (sort of like a fishbowl without the glass partition). the papasan told my friend that the price was 2500 baht for all night. he talked him down to 2000 baht per girl for two girls. my friend picked two girls and left. i was torn between one girl with a nice face and another with great tits (i didn’t want a double because i didn’t want a possible hassle at the hotel and i was saving my energy for a session at the eden club the next day before i left for cambodia). chose the face and left with her after getting the papasan to agree to 2000 baht for all night.
had an ok session with the face. she then started to get dressed. i said what happened to the all night i paid for. she said that she had to get home because she had to go to school the next day. i took her back to the club and told the papasan what happened. he, the mamasan, and the girl began arguing while i stood there. the mamasan then took me into the club and said pay another 500 baht and get a new girl until late in the morning. said ok, gave her the 500 baht and a 100 baht tip to the mamasan (at her prompting), and took the great tits to the hotel. (one of the girls the kuwaiti guy had left with was there when i brought back my girl, so apparently this girl also had some problems with the all night concept.)
the great tits was kind of standoffish at first because she was insulted that she was my second choice. after i reassured her that it could have gone either way, we finally started a session. during the session i pulled out and found the condom covered with blood. she then said that her period must of have just started (yeah, sure). that ended the session but i was too tired to go back to the club and get another girl and she had such great tits that i was content to just get oral and have access to her tits until the morning.
after she left at about 11am, i checked out of the hotel and went to the eden club. i didn’t see anyone in the anal side that i wanted to do and i wasn’t too interested in the non-anal girls either so i passed and got an oil massage next door until it was time to go to the airport. be advised that it is impossible to get a cab to take you at the meter rate to the airport during rush hour- most will ask for 300 baht. got one for 260 baht.
i returned from cambodia (see separate post) 10 days later. took the bus from the airport to ekkamai and the pattaya bus. checked in at the sandy spring hotel (baht 1200 double with sea view, no breakfast) booked through scandibar.com. nice room (although limited sea view) and nice check-in staff. nice pool but never took advantage of it.
again found the pretty girls in pattaya to be few and far between. checked the beer bars, discos, soapies, soi 6, and soi post office. i found the best girls to be at the soapies, and even then there were only a few that looked good to me, and one gorgeous girl in a soi 6 bar. the soapies (sabai room, sabai dee, and sabai land) are all still 1600 baht for 1.5 hours.
the best looking girl was one from southern thailand at the sabai room. when i asked her why she didn’t work in bangkok and make more money since she was so beautiful, she said that she was too dark (she wasn’t that much darker, if any, than i am, and i am pretty fair) for thai men and would not do well there. their loss; that’s what they get for looking at skin color and not whether the face is beautiful.
amidst all the hags on soi 6 i saw a beautiful girl who appeared to be leaving her bar. i entered and one of the hags latched on to me. i told her i wanted the beautiful one and she got her before she left. i asked how much and was told 300 baht for the room and 600 baht for her for an hour. i told her that it used to be 600 baht total but she wouldn’t lower the price so i said ok (i wasn’t going to not bang her for 200-300 baht, considering how few pretty girls i was finding). she looked even better naked- great body. ok session, but the hour ended when i finished, not after an actual hour. didn’t find her again when i went back.
returned to bangkok and stayed the weekend at the hyatt (using free nights). checked out spasso (free admission for guests). one nice looking girl but she kept on brushing off men that tried to pick her up. thought that perhaps she wasn’t a pro but saw her leave with a black guy that i hadn’t seen her with before when the club closed so maybe she was.
went back to stardust club but couldn’t find anyone i wanted. papasan kept on pushing me to take a girl or get a drink. finally ordered a beer to shut him up. mistake: 200 baht for a small singha. left and taxi driver who took me there said he knew another club that was open, also 2000 baht all night.
at the club i saw one girl i liked and chose her. the papasan tried to raise the price to 2500 baht but i told him that i was told the price was baht 2000. he said okay and i left with the girl (probably overpaid but cheap enough). hotel security took her id, no hassles. had a session with her. then she starts to get dressed. i said where the hell are you going, i paid for all night. she said that it was only one shot. since i didn’t know where the club was or the name, i couldn’t take her back. i probably could have told security not to give her her id back to make her stay but she wasn’t that good the first time and any subsequent ones would have been even worse, so i chalked it up to experience (and tiredness and over-eagerness) and let her go. moral: confirm with the girl, not the papasan, how long she is going to stay.
moved to the woraburi hotel, down (way down, a 10-15 minute walk, although the hotel has a free shuttle from the hotel to nana plaza) on soi 4. adequate room and breakfast, ok pool, a little noisy at night because of street traffic. $30 double (high season rate, only hotel available).
made the round of the soapies- poseidon, mirage, emmanuelle, hi-lite, caesars, nataree, amsterdam (formerly champs elysees), cleopatra, cupidy, embassy, halem, angara, catherines, la defense, mona lisa, and victorias secret (?), about a mile from la defense (left at the 7-11 past la defense). i found the best looking girls to be not at the expensive soapies but the fishbowl girls at catherines and the sideline girls at nataree. there were some good-looking girls at cupidy but the idiot who talked to me said the price was 2700 baht for the fishbowl girls and 3200 baht for the sideline girls. i told him to go to hell and left. there was one sideline girl at angara that i did- 2000 baht for ok session.
i found the girls at most of the other soapies to be older and more hardened than at catherines and nataree. i was particularly unimpressed with the models at poseidon. not particularly attractive and not a smile from any of them as i looked them over. i guess they were waiting to be chosen by the high-rolling thais and asians instead of a farang. the were two girls at amsterdam that i would have done when i went there, even at 5000 baht each, had i not just finished at nataree and been spent.
the catherines girls do not speak any english at all and are not really used to farangs (i only saw one other farang the 4 times i went there) but they are young, with the four i had ranging from 19 to 23, and pretty (although those were the only girls i would have done there anyway). the price i was quoted at catherines was baht 2000 for two hours. fortunately, i had written down the prices of catherines and la defense from the bkk tonite or stickman website. i showed the prices to him and asked him when the prices had changed. he then said ok, 1500 baht.
one of the girls i had, #92, had the most beautiful pussy i’ve seen in a long time- perfect lips, bald, great taste. however, she was a bit of a dead fish. only one of the girls i had, the 19 year-old, did the bj, then bath, then sex routine. one girl looked as if she were half-white based on her features but she said that she was all thai. she gave the worst service and ended the session after the first round with almost an hour to go. she obviously got no tip. i didn’t make an issue of it because i was leaving that night to go home and i still had to go to nataree for a last session there.
the best soapie session i had was at la defense with #74 (i think). 1800 baht for two hours. bj, bath, sex, lots of passion (faked of course, but still nice). gave her 400 baht tip.
only had the time (and stamina) for four sideline girls at nataree, though there were at least 4 more that i would have liked to do. they run from 2000 baht to 3000 baht, though mostly about 2300 baht, and are young, cute, lots of fun and have bubbly personalities, although only adequate to good service. was able to joke with them a bit while i was deciding whom to choose.
the girls looked really cute in the soapie. however, i happened to see the first sideline girl i had there at a fruit stand near nataree on what was apparently her day off. at first i didn’t recognize her since she looked pretty plain and not anyone i would pay any attention to, let alone pay to have sex with. the make-up person at nataree does a hell of a job. probably true at the other places also.
my last session in bangkok was at nataree before i left for the airport. seated near the door (the 3000 baht ones sit near the door) was a beautiful girl i had not seen before. i asked her if she spoke english and she said yes. i said lets go, paid and went to the room. she was a student at a university studying computers. great body and face but no stamina, telling me i had broken her pussy because i took so long to come.
never found anyone worthwhile in the soi 7 beer garden or the nana plaza parking lot. went into a few bars in nana and soi cowboy but was not impressed enough with the talent to bother with negotiations, especially after afternoon sessions at catherines and evening sessions at nataree. relieved the late-night need with some sessions at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]’s instead.
Internet access for Laptops
I've been of experimenting with internet connections the last couple of times I've come to the LOS with my laptop and have pretty much come to the conclusion that rather than relying on wi-fi connections in hotels or Starbucks I'm more comfortable using a gprs or EDGE card. A gprs card basically turns your laptop into a cellphone and you can get a connection anywhere.
I posted a little about this once before, but now I've got it more figured out and can report that it works great. I wouldn't recommend it for guys just staying a week or so, but if you're in BKK, Pattaya or wherever for a while or need to work odd hours and be mobile it beats the alternatives and is pretty cheap compared to having to use Starbuck's.
You need three things:
1.) An unlocked gprs or EDGE card. You can buy these at home for about $200.00 from a telecom, on eBay for a lot less, or Pantip for about 8,000 bht. I've used a Sierra Wireless 750 and a Sony Ericsson GC 83.
2.) An Thai internet connection like the 300 bht KSC prepaid ONECARD deal that you can get at 7/11.
3.) A pre or post paid cell phone account with a Thai telecom. I use DTAC and can top up with the cards at 7/11 or whatever.
Basically all you need to do is put the DTAC sim card into the gprs card, pop that into the slot in your laptop and wait few seconds for it to find a signal then log on to your isp account. In BKK and Pattaya the connection is almost as fast as as good wi-fi connection and in Chiang Rai I found it faster.
Its cool because it works everywhere your cell phone works and you don't need to be wired to anything. You wind up paying 1bht per minute for the DTAC connection and some miniscule amout per minute for the minutes on the prepaid internet account.
Like I said, its probably too much of a hassle if you're just staying short time, but its cool if need some mobility or are up north where anything but dial up is hard to find.
Cheers,
Sean
National holidays - feb. 12th.
Appently there is a Thai National Holiday on Sunday, Feb. 12th.
Does any of the expats know, whether the bars, Nana, shops, weekend market, malls will be open?